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#52: JENNIFER TURLIUK | MakerKids: Teaching Kids to Conquer Skynet

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#52: JENNIFER TURLIUK | MakerKids: Teaching Kids to Conquer Skynet

"Coding and artificial intelligence. These are things. i'm just gonna admit it. I don't know a ton about except for what i learned in the classic movies. Like two thousand and one and wally and cherry two thousand maybe banzai. I also know elon. Musk ones us. The perils of a of artificial intelligence. So i did a little digging in preparation for this podcast and i found this article in the mit technology review. Which sounds super smart. The articles called qian's was wrong. Gen z will have it worse in the article. They quote a warehouse worker whose entire work life is run by They quoted as saying the is your boss your boss's boss and your boss's boss's boss and sets the target productivity rates the shift quotas and the division of labor on the floor ultimately what this means to you is that you'll rarely work with the same people twice. You'll be isolated put on random tasks from shift to shift slog for stowing your sorting a picking packing rates. Well exceeding your average because your supervisor told you so and the program told him before that the article goes on to say that rather than relieving workers from toil improvements in technology grind out there efficiencies by molding labors into unreasonable shapes across departments. Amazon workers report being forced by the circumstances of their jobs to urinate in bottles and trash cans using layers of subcontracting agreements. The largest firms insulate themselves from responsibility. And i'm assuming also urine screws to and for their largest wage. Workers recent investigation amazon's last mile shipping reveal exhausted drivers whose required carelessness has predictably been known to kill people. The company remains as far as the business community is concerned exemplary. Okay that's quite a setup and a bit dark little negative. I get it gen z. And gen alpha. Yeah maybe there well and truly screwed and in search of the last drop of profitable productivity profitable productivity. They'll be ground to bits by the uncaring dictates of ai algorithms or or or maybe just maybe a new generation that grows up as native speaker so to speak as as fluent coders who can fluidly shape and create and mold. Electric world around them were craft better more humane systems than the current comparatively clunky keyboard clapper's and maybe kids growing up being taught how to code from a young young age how to develop and work with artificial intelligence. Just they'll see more organic ways to use these tools to benefit rather than dominate one. Another and that that right there. That's where our super nice guest jennifer turlock from maker. Kids comes in. She's passionate about education about kids about preparing them with all the right tools to build a better future. Her work has been featured in the new york. Times wired. Fast company forbes. Harvard case steady and more. She attended singularity university at nasa at nasa. I went to school at. Nasa is that where'd you gonna call. It earns a nasa our. She learned how to apply exponential technology to education. Despite her youth her career accolades are thirty. And she's here today with us as founder and ceo of nacre kids the first maker space for kids in the world. She's gonna explain. We'll talk about how you can get. Your kids started g- right now today in coding robotics. ai even if there's young as six months old can maybe it's six years old thinking it could be. I mean six months Yeah okay six years old and how. Coding is a creative pursuit that they can start right now. Proven to boost self esteem and help struggling kids especially during covid. Lot of kids are struggling loud. young teens. This this maker kids is a cool thing to check out. You got kids. You curious about the future caitlyn. Listen i'm your host todd. Brilliant and this is nice work podcast. 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And if you like this podcast we pretty pleased subscribe. Pass it on. Senator friends posted up on your socials. All that it helps. It really does thank you. Thank you okay before we get to jennifer one quick shout out to this episode's anti sponsor the post carbon institute postcard is a think tank that is leading the transition to a more resilient equitable sustainable world. Their fellows are the world's leaders in a wide range of subject matters from top my head here freshwater resource scarcity population social justice climate fossil fuel economy and pretty much every facet of human culture. Check them out postcard dot org check out their sister site resilience dot org and if you really want prepare yourself for what's ahead in in an increasingly uncertain world if cova just hottest anything check out there think resilience course about which a new york times writer says. The world is flooded with information about our nanosecond planetary history. And the mess. We've made it. What's much harder to find as a clear coach depiction of the much much bigger picture that we got from the think resilience videos that context of everything. It covers everything. I've read since about the climate our future and damn if we're gonna have a nicer future. We have to know everything we need. This co depiction right anyway. That's our anti sponsor anti sponsors. Don't pay anything. Forget paid sponsors supervised club members in good standing. We will get behind your business your efforts just holler like to thank all of you members all of you listeners. For listening supporting the podcast for getting behind the idea of making the world a nicer place even if it's just going to be a world filled with robots all right let's let's have be robots and and and trees pretty healthy trees all right all right. Ready turn off everything else. Tune out the rest of the world and drop into nice work with jennifer turlock jennifer jennifer turlock. Welcome to nice work really great to have you on today. Thanks thanks for having me. I'm really excited to be here. Whereas here for you. Somewhere in canada yeah. I'm based in toronto canada. I love toronto. Toronto is a great city. Do you feel that way about it. Yeah i love it. So i've lived in a couple of different places and it's just so multicultural as so beautiful. There's really great nature and great cultural scene and is maker kids also based in toronto. Yes we are now. We have a location in the west end of toronto as well as a franchise in the north end. But now since we're operating virtually we actually have kids coming from all over the world are virtual programs. Your timing right now for maker kids. I would just imagine with covid going on right now and everybody looking for things to their kids to do. The just must have a huge surge. Yeah definitely it seems like there's a lot of parents. Who are you know at home with their kids and wondering what they can do with their kids. I remember her march thirteenth. Twenty twenty that that day where everything started to happen and close. I started getting calls from parents at that time they were saying. Oh i'm gonna be second home with my kid for three weeks. What am i gonna do now. Of course we're almost a year into things and we feel really fortunate to have been able to provide two families away for their kids to safely socialize and get enrichment so we've had families that have been with us that whole time. Virtually as well as many others that are looking for opportunities for their kids than all the soft skills that come along with it like confidence. Social skills resilient. That's such an important thing right now. These social skills that a lot of us are worried about. I have an eight year old and a ten year old right and so they're divorced from their schools and their friends and everything and a lot of kids spending so much time on screens and a lot of parents myself. Included were really resistant to giving in to that. Ultimate babysitter right. Because there's so much it's so much of a passive situation even when they're using games like roadblocks to chat with friends at the same time so there is a social aspect to it which makes it seem like well. That's okay you're playing a game but you're also talking to your friends what you're doing. Seems like the whole next level they get to do socializing. They get to have fun game some of this stuff right and they get to learn at the same time. Pretty darn cool. Let's back up though. 'cause i think we're losing people who don't really know what maker kids is and what it does just excited when he started talking about how. I want my kids to be doing this. And what a great. What a great idea. Tell me about her kids when you started it. The name of the dog. That's walking behind you with a leash attached to its neck so maker get started in two thousand ten in a garage and progressed to face in twenty twelve and moved in two thousand fifteen into a new space and basically make her kids runs camps programs in parties on coating robotics in minecraft for kids ages six to thirteen and we use those as a medium to help kids develop confidence social skills resilience and a positive relationship with technology. So kids have gone on to start. Businesses win prizes from nasa as well as have many positive mental health outcomes and we've even had children's mental health professionals refer kids to us because of the results that they've seen amazing From nasa prizes from nasa what are they entering coating in robotics. competitions is nasa have a contest. yeah there was a robotics. Competition at one of the students from our robotics class entered the space apps challenge and he created a concept for rover. That could move around mars and he won the people's choice award for that. That is so cool. I noticed that you that you did. Duck one question. Which is the name of the dog. Oh sorry i forgot that. So my dog's name is lexi and she is my canine co worker. You know i'm working here in the kids. What is normally the kids classroom as he's just hanging out with me. It's been her. I in here since last march so yup wishy respond by say. Hey lexi lexi. Hey what's up. I've just got my headphones okay. So when you started out did make her. Kids have an online learning component in the classroom. That i see behind you so we've always been in the classroom. We always thought about doing virtual classes and thought that via future thing many years down the line and then when covid hit we basically moved to online within a weekend and we had three days where we weren't offering anything in person or virtual where we were preparing everything quickly and then since then we've been fully virtual so a move all the kids that were coming in person to virtual classes most wanted to stick with us which was awesome. And now we've had many kids start with us for the first time. Virtually and you mentioned that you have a. Did you see as another location. The second location is at a franchise. Location. that's right okay. So you have a franchise model. That's pretty interesting. What does the franchise model look like. So basically they get the rights to open a maker. Kids location access all our curriculum as well as all our operations manuals and using our trademark in exchange for their franchise fee and royalties so our first franchisee has been extremely successful including kovin been great. So it's like it's like a cross fit box basic right something like that. Yeah cross fit for coders okay. I'm i think he'll do like daily watery. You have to you know. Have coding challenges at the different. Okay maybe that doesn't work. It's just throwing it out there. You can use it if you want. So how old. Some of these kids have come in. It's been a few years you've been around now right. So have you seen some of these kids become young adults and kind of have you gotten any that have started up in college yet or getting their careers going. How far have you seen some of your proteges advanced so far absolutely. It's been really great to see some of the kids progress from a young age to moving on to you know going to special technical high school and specializing in robotics or even going to university as a computer science student and we've even had former maker kids become instructors with us for example. You have a fellow named patrick who has a participant in our maker. Kids programs was now one of the instructors for our lease side franchise and in his spare time three printing and building robotic inventions and all sorts of things. So it's amazing to see some of the progressions that kids have made in their lives. What's the hottest sort of part of your curriculum. Is it coding. Robotics or the the would you say is it. Roadblocks remind minecraft minecraft. Coding is our most popular topic closely. Followed by minecraft. Kids love minecraft in. It's a really cool way to leverage that interest as a gateway to get them interested in other topics like coding electron ix and so forth. All of which you can learn within minecraft mining i mean. Canada has a lot of minds right back for coal and stuff. Israelis are gateway there to like mining future. 'cause they i i've seen the game. They used the pickaxe and everything. If you know what really does translate is there's a lot of precious metals in such that are reference to the game like lapis lazuli. And sometimes we will win. We're running person classes. We would actually leverage. Minecraft has a way to get to wanna go outside for a lot of kids. Sometimes like are are going to the park part of the day which is a typical part of our campus kids. Least favorite part of the program whenever we survey them. I didn't want to go to the park. But then we try and mentioned that maybe we could find some of the stones that we find in minecraft. There's some of the different blocks of the raw materials when we go to the park for those at the park and that's typically makes them a lot more interested. Do you plant any advance i I really liked the idea. Because i'm a psychic. I always have been. I like the idea of a different life. Where i got into robotics right but now when you think robotics least when i see it i always see like the. What's the company. Boston dynamics right. They have like the war dogs in the end. The dancing like soldier killer robots and stuff that are incredible but also super duper creepy. What's the reference point for these kids. Usually when they think robotics is that what they're thinking or are they thinking often when kids come in there picturing sort of the cartoon type robot where you know you see the head of the smile arms and legs and we teach them that so many other things are actually robots as well like your laundry machine and you know your smartwatch and we help them learn that there's so many different things around them that are robots in that they can create things like that to that other people can use we actually teach them to use platforms like the are we know which is the same platform that was used to prototype the square credit card reader and pebble smartwatch which are really cool inventions. That are widely used now. So it's awesome. That kids are able to learn those technologies. we make them accessible to them. And then see. We're able to see what they go on and create for example. There is a student who then started a business making and selling audio speakers that he learned to do through our robotics program. Oh that's great hear in toronto. Yes do you know. The name of his company I do not. I think it will last time. I checked in. It was yet to be named. But okay well i was going to give them a shout if he had his company going. Well let me know if he gets his company going. Let the super nice club. No i'm i love. Hi fi stuff. Especially if they're wired speakers not necessarily bluetooth but like audio file quality eleven. Because i can't afford them and just a thing to to want to happen. You know posey forward through the world. There's nothing to want i want. I want good speakers dr robots. I did see the other day last week when we see that was a week. Couple of weeks ago right. The consumer electronic show was recently at least it was online. Yeah but samsung is working on. A robot called handy. They can pick up your laundry. Do the dishwasher set the table. Poor wind bring you a drink. You can recognize objects in your room. I mean it's like the little butler. It's not quite ready for primetime like it's not they don't have a price tag on it but that was like really close to jetsons style. Robot who is the robot and the jetsons rosie was the robot on the jetsons. That's yeah jetson guy did. This thing is rosy. It's super cool it's called. I definitely want one of those signing up whereabouts so often pitched as the bad guy these days in sign. No i think whenever people think about new technologies sometimes there's a tendency to want to think about the bad parts of them certainly scary movies and such are quite popular so maybe the creators are trying to think about how they can position the technologies to make the movies more popular. There's so many great sides to technology as well for example right now during cova with zoom an applications like it and the creators of those technologies. Where would we be. They've become so critical. We wouldn't be having this podcast right now. Are looking at each other. That's for sure you know. It's seamless shoutout to squad cast. If you're into podcasts. Or thinking about getting into him. Squad cast a great job. It's true there's definitely get enabled with a lot of this stuff. And if the flip side of it of course is that you know zoom surveilling us this kind of thing so there's always the fear i don't know about always but there's often a fear that goes with these new technologies and so we have these bad guy robots i preferred the non bad guy robots through scary to me. What about ai. Do you have parents to ask you. Do they come to you wondering about the sort of you know how elon. Musk is trying to scare people about the possibilities. I will one day take over the world and go hand in hand over overlord. So i mean they typically don't call with that exact question but they are definitely looking to help their kids learn. Ai a lot of cases so as part of our coding programs we do teach kids ai. for example how to make a chat bot so typically kids will make something like hi. I am you know so and so using faked username of course for internet safety reasons. What's your favorite color. And then the user will enter a color and then it'll either save cool. That's my favorite color too if it is or if it's a different one oh awesome. My favorite color is red. Wanna see a picture of my cat. Then shows cat picture they're making cool chat bots like that and using i within the video games that they code with us as well. Would you consider the coating for these kids to be a creative outlet. Something that would be akin to you know. Young kids who are really into drawing or into creating things is cody. Give the same sort of reward from a creative perspective. Absolutely in fact we've had a number of families remarked less that before the child may not have felt like they were creative since creativity is typically associated with writing music art dance and so forth yet so once they come here. They realized that their interests which may be more along the lines of engineering minecraft coding and so forth are also creative and they are a creative person because they can make things technologically and that that is also creativity. We find that leads to a significant boost in confidence in a lot of cases. There's certainly creating something from nothing right. And it's also often dimension allies or if not as a robot it has a motion to it like you said the it talks back to you which has got to be super rewarding in a wholly different way than than drawing something which also speaks to you but not literally. Yeah i've noticed that it seems to have a really positive effect with kids. And i think part of the reason. Why children's mental health professionals have been referring kids to us because of the results. They've seen with their clients. Is i think some of those results are coming from things like the child feeling like they have power over the world you know. Maybe they're not having the most positive social or even academic experience at school but when they're able to code a video game or build something in minecraft it. It's a way for them to create something that they feel passionate about and feel a bit of power over the world. It's also a way for them to creatively express themselves and also a way for them to connect with other like minded kids and a chance to exercise their social skills when perhaps they're a bit more distracted with doing something like playing minecraft they might be more willing to take social risks that they might then carry with them to their everyday life. So we've seen a lot of that and heard a lot of great things about that from parents. I was reading something back for just a second evans. Data corporation conducted a survey five hundred fifty fifty programmers. It's been a couple of years. I think it was two thousand eighteen and found out that being replaced by artificial. Intelligence is the most worrisome thing in software programmers career. I know you must have a response to that. What what do you say to the folks that come to you with that and go. Hey you know. Coding really what. I should be doing it by kid. Or you know. They're going to be not needed. Because super smart robots are going to be doing the coding. It's a really big topic that i've heard about a lot not necessarily from parents but just in general and my response to that is you know the. There's been so many times throughout human history where there's been fears like this. Like the industrial revolution. The introduction of farming machines are those gonna take away farmhand jobs for example but then become jobs for who's gonna create those machines and i think it's the same with ai who's gonna create that artificial intelligence or who is creating it. And i think more and more jobs become created. It could get to the point where we ended up having more leisure time available and the robots were able were able to employ robots to do our work for us and that's kind of cool too because it would enable us to i think each focused on our highest yes in our highest areas that we're passionate about that. We want to contribute to society yet. That would take that. Don't take a big cultural reprogramming in terms of how we how our economies operate and sort of our our expectations of one another and our value systems. You know we tie so much of our identity up in our work right As a whole it's a great conversation to have but that transition that transition from as you were saying one job doesn't necessarily get outmoded it becomes something slightly different right you. maybe maybe. You're not on the plough team anymore than horses. Maybe now. you're working assembling the tractors or whatever were you know. Who's watching the watchers. There's always some level of of Transition that we can look forward to. I would imagine that if you are coding and your expert at coating whatever happens next. You're going to be best positioned to learn the next thing and you're going to be the most reliable as we move to that next evolution. That's exactly it. We're trying to prepare kids for the careers of tomorrow which may not even exist today. there's so many stats that talk about how the careers of today are completely different than they were twenty years ago and i believe that will certainly continue to be the case in the future by. Coding is like a technological superpower that can be leveraged towards so many different areas. And it seems like it's something that's here to stay as well. I mean perhaps in the future. We'll have a is that are doing coating for us. But those ai's would've been created with code for example and will probably spun off new job so yeah. I think learning coating it's kind of like learning a second language and it's one of the most important languages to learn today. You're very passionate about this. Obviously so passionate that you started your business around it naked. You're passionate about getting kids. Ready to make a better world I think it's as you put it on your site When did that passion happen for you. When did you realize man. This is this. Is it coating and getting kids. Ready is what i want to dedicate a lot of my life to well. It was after. I went to this program called singularity university based at nasa where we got to learn about a lot of exponential technologies and how to apply them the different areas like poverty water and education and while we were there they listed out a number of grand challenges in the world such as in you know the environment and security education and they asked us to identify which one we wanted to focus on and i thought about it for a while and i realized that as nelson mandela says education is the most powerful weapon that you can use to change the world and i believe that leveling education can level up each of those other different areas make an impact on those other areas like water in poverty and so i realized that that's what i wanted to focus on while i was there in that program and it was after that that i got started with maker kids and i also remembered back to a time in my own life where i was twelve years old and i was disengaged with school. I was being bullied. I was having a hard time in life and then my teacher said hey for this book report. Why don't you coat a website about it. Instead of just submitting a book report so i taught myself to code and i coated a website about harry potter and grab images from all over the internet. Not knowing anything about that laws anything like that. This was in the early days of harry potter and the internet. So there really wasn't much out there at that time. And i got a good mark i forgot about it. I forgot about the project. And i moved on with my life and then a couple months later my brother came down the stairs holding a magazine and he said john. Did you make a site called. Jen's harry potter. I think i remember you saying that. And i said yeah. Why is it got featured in this magazine and it and it was listed as the most comprehensive harry potter on the internet. And when i log back on. I don't remember those hit. Counters showed you how many people visited the site it had been hundreds of thousands of people and people left comments in the gas for like. Oh my god. I love your site and it was just so empowering for me as twelve year old that was otherwise struggling with school and social life and everything and it totally changed my life. It made me realize. I could make things that other people could use and i could be a leader and i wanted to provide opportunities like that for more kids. That's a great story. I didn't know that i didn't. There's no there's no hint of that on the maker. Kids website is there i. I don't know even updating a bit in the past few days. I hope it's tilt hair. You've seem to have a history of building sites not looking at the beginning that one in particular. I've been looking at all those years on enroll emphasize it more on the state. It's a great story it is. There's another story. There's another story. I want to hear about Which is i want to hear about your career as dj turley knife. Yeah actually. When i was in university i stayed the summer after first year in town and a lot of folks were not staying in town a small university town so i was looking for things to occupy my time. I dropped by the campus radio station. And they said hey. Do you wanna radio show this summer. I was like yeah sure so through them. I was able to learn how to do. A radio show. Mine was called the community filed tagging community events and then they also taught me how to dj. and then i was able to start through them. Dj campus events and offered to dj a few events for free and then one of my first events went so well. They ended up paying me anywhere. And it just kind of snowballed from there by the peak of it in university. I was dj four times a week including for clients. Like red bull and moosehead. And i also had some residencies on campus so it was a super fun time. I i really enjoyed it. Oh that's cool. Dj turley or you ever going to get back into that. You think is ever going to be like. Maybe a renaissance and i was living in chile number of years ago. I did some. Dj -ing some of the nightclubs there which was really fun and then more recently at a burning man type festival so those were certainly fine. But these days i'm i'm finding a lot more fulfillment through working on transforming education. That's my focus now okay. I've got some questions from super nice club. Insider's insider community. If you wanna ask questions of our guests in advance you can join the insiders by texting the text textile robot to three one zero four two one zero three nine three three one zero four two one zero three nine three got a few questions. It was kind of rapid fire through them from alex. T in peterborough ontario. That's near you right. He was the first one who provide funny. He says. I wonder what toys you can use to inspire and teach kids about circuit design and making electronics work. On that's awesome. There's so many cool toys that exist out there. There's the asthma. Spiral was the little guy right. Yeah and little bits is a really good one for circuitry as well. You can plug them together with magneto and make all sorts of different circuits or even guitar and snap circuits is now that really go onto so those are some really good ones for learning about circuitry for kids there. You alex you got you got the answer. Chris see and wellesley mass. What's the right versus wrong side of screen. Time when it comes to kids is having my kid. Learn to code just asking for her to be part of a matrix. That's a really good question. And i would say that. There's a huge difference between productive screen time and non-productive screen time. There's even been a number of studies that have shown that productive screen time isn't counted the same way as non-productive screen time in terms of its effects on kids. So the real difference to me is rather than just passively watching net flicks or watching youtube actually using your mind and creating things that other people can use. And that's the real difference between negative screen time. of course okay to passively. Watch something every once in a while but it's better that the bulk of your be spent actively creating and seeing how that might change your life and change your world your chris. There's your answer not going to be part of the matrix. Don't don't worry no pills Jennifer wonderful jennifer n in honolulu. What are some of the best programs out there. That kids can learn to do java scripting and coding and similar from andy's e. in charlotte. What intro into programming would you recommend for an eight year old boy who has enjoyed bits box but would like something to help them get started. Okay awesome yeah well with maker kids. We have a number of programs on coding robotics and minecraft for grades wanted to we have a program called mini makers where they get an exposure to all three of those topics and then in grades three to eight. They get to choose one of the topics to specialize in or do all three. And they're really great introduction where we start off with our beginners level where kids are able to get an exposure to some of the key concepts that they'll need to then go onto our experienced level where they get to work either in a group or at their own pace at their option through some of the projects that we have where they get to do. Project based child centered learning and really get to use their interests to decide what they're going to work on and then through that. learn those skills through of the projects. Okay last question a little bit of a different type. A question from susan s in beaverton oregon does she have any virtual volunteer opportunities and is maker kids a nonprofit that could benefit from companies that match donations us. We have instructor opportunities. We are a social impact company. So we're technically not a nonprofit. We used to be moved to for profit. So a sort of Social impact rattle for a variety of reasons. So we're able to use our. Oh nice yeah. So we're able to use our revenue in profits to support other causes for example we've done free programs for kids with cancer reprograms for refugees reduced programs for organizations that support kids on the autism spectrum and a number of other different programs like that so we do have instructor opportunities though. They're not volunteer opportunities. They're paid and we are always open to speaking with companies about doing partnerships programs for their employees or programs that support underserved communities. So we've done programs with google twitter and also partnered with intel and other companies. That's great well. Thanks for get into those shows. The insider questions for this episode gain. If you want to ask questions of our guests just become an insider texas. You've got the number. If you don't remember it just pause and hit the backup. Whatever whatever player you have jennifer. What's your favorite kind of wail. Well that's a great question. My favorite type of whale is a aw. The name is escaping western australia. It purrs in perth. Yeah where i used to live. Well shark well shark or show. When i was just does your cool. One of fear wills is a wilshire. Really cool huge. Well used to live in perth australia so there were whale sharks nearby at the time. I didn't realize how unique and rare they were you. Could you could pay a couple of hundred dollars for this. Whale shark snorkeling scuba tour. Where a helicopter would go out and spot the whale sharks and then you could you know be magically ported near them and snorkel or scuba. I didn't do it out of time. But i would really like to in the future. I just did that two days ago. I went swimming with a bunch of wealth sharks on. Wow that's amazing. oculus quest yard goggles. There was a video like this is so cool Yeah so. I mean. I didn't really but i kinda did so today. We can't really not mentioned that. We're recording this on the day. That in the us joe biden takes over as president and so far so good so far so peacefully candidate but you pay attention to the what happens with we have this revolving cast in the us with each president appoints a new secretary of education. And then you get different priorities. And it's always shifting moving around and the kids are sort of the victims of this. Do you have the same in canada. You know in terms of higher education program is marshalled through the schools. Does it change a lot or do you have a good consistent approach to how you implement tech in education. I'd say we also face Changing face of education. If that makes sense so we have different ministers of education that are provincial so one for each province and how the education gets rolled out varies based on that person. A lot of it has stayed the same in terms of education over the years. For example are sex. Ed program was not updated for something. Crazy like twenty or forty years. Which is you know things change faster than that so yeah. A lot of it stays the same. But then there's some exciting new developments for example now is going to be taught as part of the curriculum which is really exciting and has made families even more interested in their child getting supplementary education. Starting what grade is that. I believe it starting in kindergarten. Actually sitting kindergarten coders i. It's such a foreign language to me. That i have no idea. I took basic in high school. And what was the next. One called visit pascal. Yeah that a language. I think learned that back then. I don't remember any of it. I mean i remember as a computer nerd back in like one nine hundred eighty one. I had the modem and and all that kind of stuff early dialing into these things and you know basic was lying tan line twenty goto ten and all this stuff was it was it. Was your lifetime ago. It was a lifetime ago and what kindergarteners capable of is so much more than parents believe. They're capable of whether it's coding or math or language so it's great to to see them have another opportunity to sort of express themselves right. Yeah that's that's wonderful. Speaking of education is a great segue. I love it. Speaking of education educate better than books. You have a book coming out right. Yes i do stuff. I want to hear about the book share. The book is called how to figure out what to do with your life next. And it's based on a self education it's based on a self education journey. I went on. I was initially working in the corporate world. And i've found myself quite dissatisfied and not sure what to do next so i actually quit. My job. flew to silicon valley and then cold emailed some of the top founders investors and professors and was able to meet with or with folks like the founders of airbnb ceo of kiva stanford design school as well as some stanford professors and other companies and individuals. And i ask them all. How did you figure out what to do with your life and from there developed my own process which helped me figure out that. I wanted to be an entrepreneur and i wrote about it for forbes. Article ended up getting over at this point. One point five million views. And i think it's because so many people search for the term what to do with my life and people are asking for more information so i expanded it into the into book but details more about my journey and his career design process which is based on principles from lean methodology quantified. Self and design thinking. So you're you're young guru. That's what's happening. I see where your path is going. You're starting with the kids. See how these acolytes and then you've got the book to get to the door again. I like it. this is smart building. The next tech colt. You're all helping more people find careers that they like that they're passionate about. It helped the world. And that make money so i wanted to focus on kids because i think childhood is most formative stage of life in. It's kind of like a golf swing. Where if you make a small millimeter. Change at the outset your swing. It can make a huge impact on the trajectory of where the shot ends out. And then i also wanted to provide information for adults as well that are looking to make a change. So when is the book coming out. Do you have any idea yet. Does your publisher have a release yet. Yeah it's coming out in canada on march second and in the us. On april six and it's available for preorder on amazon now and the title again. How to figure out what to do with your life next okay. So if anybody out there listening hasn't figured out exactly what to do with their life next. I'd recommend going online typing that book title in and pre ordering it. I'm going to do that. Susan done talking here actually going to order to figure out what to do. Book preorders are great to help boost action. So i want to get a preorder in now to help you. It's important you know. And hopefully and hey you guys preorders are important for authors preorders. Really help boost interest in the book sales and launch a book correctly so seriously fear. If if this is something interesting you go online right now. Order the book. And i tell you what i'll give you a super nice club guarantee which we do if you order the book and you just absolutely think this isn't for me. I don't like it. We will buy the book back from you at your purchase price. And then we'll give that out to other members. So i'm going to put a limit on that of the first twenty. I doubt that twenty people were order and not like it but seriously the money back guarantee from the super nightclub on your purchase of jen's book. I already asked you about your favorite kind of whale. Knocked it out of the park fantastic. How do people get started with maker. Kids they listening to this. Like oh man. This sounds great for for my daughter. I wanna do it. How do they get going on it. How long before from the moment. They decided they want to do it until their kid can be running around with with the other kids in the program. Well they just head to make her kids dot com so m. e. r. k. i. d. s. dot com and we have free trial classes that they can dive into anytime. We have them most days the week so they should be able to get started immediately and then from there they can choose if they want to do one of our weekly programs which is one of our most popular options where they come at the same time each week. Virtually the same group of kids and it's one hour for grades one to two or two hours for grades three to eight and they're able to learn technological skills as well as our social and emotional skills that we teach alongside them and then we also have virtual camps and virtual birthday parties which have been quite popular to okay so the other kids in the class are all our our all in on it right. Yeah exactly they do group projects together and then as part of the experience level have opportunity to do some individual projects to but the group aspect is really neat because the kids get to learn to collaborate more. They get to build long term friendships. Some of them even make nicknames for their own group. Like there's a harry potter fan club. That a number of the kids are in that they've created. I like yeah today. It was really fun. So that's such a value to that. You know the can the value of making new friends even if you know your kids in florida. Some of these kids are in toronto. When you make these friends these pen pals virtual and the real. They're not just around video game but there around something that you're learning together a shared passion even at a young age. You never know. Some of these kids might stay in touch college together. Start businesses together. This is pretty invaluable stuff and that you can offer to your kids. I like it. I it a lot jennifer so way to go. I love and i'll admit i'm kind of a right. I still use analog cameras and have typewriters. And all that kind of stuff. And i'm kind of a klutz a lot of ways but this is great. This is fantastic. Do you have a super nice challenge something that you can issue to the listeners. The members of the super nightclub or something they can do to make the world around them or just their world lamai super nice challenge is to think about how you can personally transform education either for yourself by creating your own self education journey or for others by creating programs or schools that might transform education. That is a big challenge. That's a media challenge. I might be the media's dates or far to transform education. i love it. Because i've long wished that we can have in the united states. Not just the third party but a fourth fifth and tenth but a party that is. Es education i party party that is rooted in education as the eighty percent of what their should because everything branches from there right. So maybe the challenge of i was gonna execute it. An example is to launch party. You know take a little bit of work. But i think it'd be awesome anybody out there on to helped me start the education i party. Give me a shout the awesome and then lastly you get to ask a question of me jennifer. Any question can throw it out me. I'll do my best answer. I love the super nice outfit. You're wearing the super nice gear and the red okay. I'm wearing the red adidas a super nice club limited track jacket. And what's to read. Yeah i read today. I was just wondering like how did you. I love the super nice brand. How did you come up with a specific branding of it or that red and white and so forth. Visit yourself for with an agency or how did it go. If you don't mind me asking course. I don't mind asking. This is the part where you get to ask whatever you want. The logo was something that when i had told the eureka moment of the super nice club a number of times on the podcast but after that eureka moment when i sat down just to come up with a logo in my mind i thought i just want something. That is not polished corporate. That has a little. Bit of a throwback maybe sunshine and seventies flare or something and i went describe some fonts and input this logo together in a few minutes. But that wasn't the intention was not to have this be the logo. The intention was to send this to my hyper talented. Great wonderful friend kaitlyn. And she's a designer. And i've like hey see this. Can you do something like this but good you know make it not so messy and she sent it back and said you know what it's so kind of amateur hour and not great that it's awesome because i think is perfect. Don't touch it and like really okay and so you know so. That was is her as far as the logo. Goes you know in terms of incorporating into things. That's all me. It's just trying to think of something. It'll be sort of fun a little bit of st flare little bit street fashion but also More fun you know. I would love to do and i sometimes do do collaborations with artists on shirts. I would love to do some hat. Collaborations with artists. Anybody out there wants to collab- with super nice club. We do artists collaborations for limited run Merchandise usually usually shirts just because they offer so much Visual area but i'm open to collaborating with artists on on any type of super nice club swag or that answer that plus look at it. Is that the style is in the track. Jagged is such an iconic piece. You throw any logo on the other side of it and it looks great right sick out fat. I want to be one of those outfits right now. thanks. I appreciate it. Well you know Podcast guests get swag so you know that's follow up email. This is hayes swag. That's out there so we can talk about that. So you we can talk about that for sure Jennifer turlock podcast and getting so much information about you know why kids can learn this. This is my biggest takeaway is just. This is just another language even if your kids have no desire to get into technology and to get into coding or robotics if they're given the gift of this language early on it's going to be activating the same Circuits probably in the brain that learning any language would which as we know opens them up to higher intelligence and the ability to digest and interpret the world in a with greater perspective right and with multiple perspectives. So coating great for that. Just for that alone you know. Even if you don't think your kids getting to get into it it's probably worth it. Coating esperanto language to learn spanish. French other languages. The more the better right so jennifer. Thanks for being on. Thanks talk look forward to your book. I really do. I really am gonna order it right away and folks out there maker. Kids dot com. It's in the show notes. If you have kids interested again remember. She said that there are demo classes. So you can take some demo classes. Even the democrats will give your kids something to do today so might as well do it right Check it out. She's got a book coming out what you can preorder now. Which is a super nice thing to do. Will guarantee it so no risk go ahead check out the book and we hope to watch you do all kinds of really cool stuff and we hope to see your kids build amazing robots. Thanks so much. Thanks so much for having me todd. it's awesome. I love the super nice club and you are super nice. Thanks welcome to the club. Where super glad to have us. Thank you so there. You have a super nice conversation with jennifer look of maker kids links to all the stuff that she's doing her book or in the show notes i. I got really surprisingly excited about what she's doing. I was interested in her to begin with. But like i said in the intro. I really don't know a lot about this world and when you don't know a lot about a world is something that you get kind of Hurt we can get a little bit scared of you know. I don't understand that language. What's it gonna do for me. And then just listening to her talk to the light bulb went off like you know. My kids should just like my kids should speak. Spanish live in california so light light bulb went off on me. I hope i hope it did for some of you as well. And i hope that you're interested in reaching out to jennifer and and and getting involved with with her project next week. We have comic book artist writer superstar. Kara andrews look him up a a. r. e. andrews if you don't know more ready x. men hawk spiderman So many marvel comics and other comics. Car is also a film director. Just an all around amazing advocate for artists and artist rights. And can't wait for you to listen to that episode of nice work because it's a great one in the meantime be awesome. The great yourself. Love yourself love everybody around you and stay nice than you could win the in. And if you want it to be nice and you can see names And you want to be nice. 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18  We Troll For Beer and Go Rock Crawling

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18 We Troll For Beer and Go Rock Crawling

"Stop Stop Stop for here. Hey. Where are you going? Be Right back. What was that all about I'll tell you later. Go. Okay probably leave no trace We probably need to clean that up. But after we drink. Hello Welcome. What are you drinking? We'll have a life in sixteen ounces. Please she is. Welcome to life and sixteen ounces. The show that raises a pint to the explorer. The adventure seeker does wanting to break free from the nor to fill their glasses with memorable experiences and basically have a good time. I'm Brandon and we are right in the middle of school starting and I am hot for teacher and I'm Paul I brought my pen. So give me some right on. All right. Hey, let's get the show started. This episode, we begin our series on getting creative with Kovin I. We play Ding Dong little a runaway runaway play. The high school teacher turned troll King next we hold onto our beer. Go. Yeah. Well, speaking with a High Sierra four wheel drive club. Finally, we get ready for fall by bashing to Brown Ales against each other in our beer does. Competition that in our usual crack in this episode of life. Ounce. Eight gene in life. That's what I'm putting on a person. Skid row. Now, okay, good. All Rights? Little Banter. A little bit of news that's throw some stuff around here. It's all bad first of all getting creative with cove it I just wanted to. Say that we're going to try to find stuff and we kind of already have but. We want to have things that. Showcase how amazing people are in the situation that we're in in coming together making things happen keeping life rolling along. And staying positive during these times as well as possible. So speaking of positives. All right. Here we go. We mentioned. MLB. Yes. We mentioned other. Sports. Soccer Nhl Yeah and he tells back yeah. Playoffs. Yeah, I see it says qualifying team from such and such. Unfortunately I haven't watched any of the stuff just yet I will. I'll get into a fully get into it. Blogs I want to throw this out I have blog written. We're going to start having a website hopefully soon well, an official website that will be beautiful and it will contain written material blogs by. Yours truly and. On there sometime when I did already was about some the beers that we've tried and how we've rate them, review them all that stuff. So it's kind of a shortened. Version of what we do here for beer dome and things like that. Yeah and and we'll have all of our videos and things like that as mark. Videos. You said blogs are episodes, all of that stuff in one centralized location and we're working on merchandise well. Very, good. Jolly good. Yes see. October fest, you posted something Oh boy already ready for October past you know what? I kind of. I was getting. I was just in that mood to have those those those style of Beers and so I did I picked up the big three that you would normally see at at the October fest, the the the pollen, her the HP, and earning her ear earning her yacht and. I had one alley had one a day but none of them disappointed I was. Shown, the extremely high rate highly rated on all. Beer reviews. So take that into consideration will be talking about that later on will be next month. Buzz. October fest begins September in September. Yeah. But I couldn't wait no and I can't wait and I'll be brewing Tober fest fear in the next. We. Yet So. I came across this news by the way. Beer names so I'm still struggling I've got I don't I I go one way or the other trying to come up with something that either I grew up with or I'm into right now me let me throw something your direction. Dying breed just came out with a a hazy and they called it. Rolling I thought that was hilarious. Hey, young Frankenstein. Rowlands. That's right. Yeah, Frau. Bruder. ooh. A West Canadian brewery. Used the name hurry hurry and I might be saying it wrong but it's It is like a New Zealand. Tribal old. Term and actually meant pubic hair what yeah. Yeah. I'm not drinking that. What right vic? And we thought it meant feather our furry. Eighty Harry Furry be really careful of of the the the beer that you select. New Belgium. The. Well, one of the largest us to be craft breweries was bought out tire. Yep New Belt Paul Ratto exactly. Okay. Huge. Place. Obviously they went through. A little bit of turmoil. They came out with a six pack of their fat tire. That costs one hundred dollars what what's so special about this beer that's what do the math on that breakdown six divided by six what is that about to eighteen dollars a exactly but right it's the same beers. Change. What they're trying to say was. Climate Change. If if things continue to go away, they're going by twenty, seventy, six pack of beer will cost one hundred dollars. Well, it's a good thing. We won't be alive. That's what I said Holy Moley you got. All these young kids can deal that crap. It's like the generation before us you guys can deal with that crap. But I am I. That was just was in the news. Recently. Another one that caught my eye was. ozark. Ask Oscar Oscar Blues yes. Yeah. Sorry I. Think we've probably had that before. Yes I think. Dale's Pale. Familiar Yup, well, now they've teamed up with mustard. French. Backwards French muster inch Muslim. French is yeah. French's mustard. Dole let's be silly. Saving you when he died more of your characters. But they brewed beer using French's mustard is basically a mustard beer. Well. What would you have this which you haven't had? Forthwith hotdog. That or maybe with your October fest. rottweilers worse in your yeah. Your Sauerkraut. I can see that. Well, I mean, they have dill pickle beer. No have been awesome. Very crazy beers the Pumpkins, bicycles, I, hate them. But Spicy Pumpkin beer. So yeah, French's mustard. Is Out there and the cane looks like. The bought actual bottle. OR THE BOTTLE THAT'S INDUSTRY HANDS Finally. Just wanted to throw out that we. missed. It. The International? Beer. Day. Yes we did I think it was just like yesterday or the day before something like that but check this out and we don't. We don't like to promote the top industry beer gurus. Miller lite. Yes. We're giving free beer. Free Beer later national international beer day. And you could go get a six pack of I think it was a six pack. You can go get free Miller lite. In places like Greece. New York. Peru. Kansas, what Mexico Maine? And Poland Ohio Kind of a neat thing right I mean I thought it was neat that they've found. Names that are from. Europe and throughout the world. That are cities or towns in America and said International Beer Day sure here in America we know you can't travel because of covid go to these locations. If you're nearby wins the last time you had Miller. Miller lite. I cannot remember him in Pitcher. You can find it anywhere I think that's where I've had it last not in a bottle or a can probably a pitcher Oh, absolutely right yeah, and it's because you're at a kids party. chucky cheese friends yeah friends. Hey Hey, bob you got. Oh Wow. I can smell it from here. Yeah Miller highlight to. That was interesting stuff and. Yeah. So there's a little bit of a bit of news for the beer industry. Well, all right that was interesting stuff. You have there. Let's Let's go ahead and roll in. To our first store. Ninety Day me hurry here. You are going to go first on the stories. We had this conversation a bit first of all I love your combat flop story because I kind of made fun of it. I think you how the hell is that fit in with our show and you were able to find an interesting angle and they certainly made made it great. Yes. But I think you have another one which is. Using to be on a roll baby this one's kind of out of the Blue Yeah and you present it to me going, hey, have you ever played Ding Dong ditch and I said, I, don't know what the hell that is. I've never heard of Ding Dong ditch and I don't know why I don't think it was a west coast thing. Yeah and I don't. I don't recall I've done it. I know what I know what it is, but we never called Ding Dong ditch was the debut gave it pushed pushed the doorbell and run. Yeah well. We weren't into hashtags back. Definitely. Fits in with the creative with Kovin. If you can't drink with your buddies or get together kind of thing but you still want to provide a beer or you know fun way to to share some of the beer that maybe you have had This is a great a great way. What am I talking about I'm talking about the Turlock area beer trolls and yes, it's located in Turlock and the surrounding area. So I. talked to a j mcelroy mcelroy. That's how you say it and I and I've got I've got to say this from the beginning you mentioned mcelroy before and I'm I'm going to look this up right now. Okay. It reminds me of one of the stupid movies that we love isn't as mature is it? No I think it's like blades of glory or Talladega nights or something you sure ain't gonNA look it up. Okay. So I started the interview at Jay's House and When I say this guy is a huge. Tampa Bay, buccaneers, Fan. I am not exaggerating this guy, he had a man cave if you will. Dedicated to the buccaneers, and in fact, that's where he grew up. He was a Florida resident and made his way out to the west coast interestingly enough. He is a high school teacher at Turlock high. And he is the well I'll let him tell you about how the truck area beer trolls. got started the entire thing started because of sheer jealousy. If I'M BEING HONEST I'm sitting at home one day. and. There's A. Knock on the door. And I go to the door and by the time I get there there's nobody there. But there's this big gift wrapped basket sitting on the doorstep and it's got a bottle of wine and it's got some candy and it's got glass in all kinds of stuff. And I call my wife at work and I said what the hell. And she says, Oh, I joined this group called the wine fairies. And I said what the heck is that she goes all you just randomly pick people and just go drop stuff on their doorsteps and So she joined one that was wine and then she joined another one called the drink fairies and they do like mixed drinks and stuff. She got a whole Moscow mule kit one time complete with the Little Tin Cups and whatever you make them in. And I said. I'm jealous. I want free alcohol to, and I WANNA have some fun and. Make people make people's day and just randomly do stuff to I've always done stuff like that charity stuff and different things but So I said, well, what would be equivalent of a wine fairy for for guys for for beer and I said, well, it wouldn't be a fairy it'd be a troll. So I started the group and I called the Turlock area virtual. So this thing grew like wildfire when it first started, you know anything on facebook that's brand new. No one's ever seen before. That's an interesting idea it takes off, and that's certainly what happened in the Turlock area lots of participants in this thing and followers and Just. When you think that it's just men who liked beer come on nope. There's a whole facet of of women out there who also love the beer and he talks about that as well. It became very clear very quickly however that it was not just going to be guys because there are a lot of women out there who do not want wine they want beer case in point my Co.. Admin in the group Mallory She's one of the first people that joined. And she was like I don't want to be in a wine group. I WanNa be a beer group and I was like, all right. Hey, let's go. Let's do it. And then she volunteered to be one of the people to help me run it. which I thought was awesome. And And it helps because I don't always have time to keep up with all of the. New. member. Requests and. Adding people to the list so that people get their addresses. So they know who to build a bomb and whatnot before you move on. Yes. Blades of glory, Jon Heder character is called Jimmy mcilroy. No. I had to get that I had to get that out there for Hashtag. John. He loved John Heater. He's great in fact. I'll give him a plug him and Michael Rosenbaum from Smallville. They've got a a horror movie podcast that they're doing right now I forgot the name of it but Yeah it's it's a lot of fun. All right we digress back. Yeah. Back back to the Turlock area beer trolls so. Jay talked about the baskets that the that the wind fairies had put together and he's like, you know what? Nope we are bare bones man. It's all about. A Brown paper bag and different kinds of beers. thrills. That's how we do it around here and You can probably hear some of the the background noise that's what he was doing while. I was interviewing him. He was getting these beer bombs ready for us to go out and to to do to deliver them to different house. Oh, he wasn't trying to make a A bag pop or no? No No hyperventilating ventilating. No I did ask him what motivates him to to do something like this why? Why even spend the time and so he talks about why exactly it is that he goes out of his way to do this aside from the jealousy thing I've always enjoyed doing those kind of random acts of kindness types things you know pay for the starbucks for the person behind you in the drive through and stuff like that just because. I. Can why not you know if I if I've got the ability to make somebody else smile and give them something to give them something to make their weekend and I'll try. If there's any homeless people listening to it. Into this show. Hey. Guys left a bunch of beer and round figure bag no no not for you. Don't go rating people's Front doorstep hopefully, not my Gosh I love the prayer people. So he talks about the The facebook post and some of the things that go along with with that ray here when we started the page, one of the things that I did was the the main post is for new people to come on and add their name and their address and. End To mention if they want to specific types of beer that they like, you know 'cause like myself I, I was telling you before I'm not really a big Ip Fan but and some people are and so. Putting that out there gives just gives people a little bit extra information. And then I started another post few weeks in and it was. If you haven't been bombed yet put your name down here and let's try and keep track of. WHO's still hasn't gotten anything JAY PUTS A LOT OF TIME INTO PREPARING FOR These beer bombs as not the not the bagging bagging part the bag. The. Bag and in the end the the gathering the addresses now and making the making the rounds. He'll he he goes out a couple of times a week to go ahead and do the spread the cheer with these things and he'll talk about his method on that. You just gave me image of him during Christmas doing. On our porch try. To Map it. Out. And like us my ways or whatever, and try and figure out some a couple that are relatively close together so that I'm not driving all over hell and back. But. Honestly, it's just gas. So I don't mind members. He's got member. Take please continue. They are one, hundred, ninety, one strong as. I. Think it was last week. When I checked logo, they have a logo in fact when you trademark infringement. When you go to their their facebook page, you can see their logo up top and it's a it's an actual troll with a beer in one hand and a bomb in the other. kind of mixed message I guess but it's It's. Check it after you and do not talk about. This club or this? You know this group here. While you're flying on. No, don't do that. No. But they have cousy and stickers and t shirts, which means you bought at least something. I did. I did I bought a sticker brain loves buying stuff whenever he visits anyplace. So if you have merchandise Khalas us. Emails will be there. He'll by just gave it to me although I am still looking for freebies. All right. I, see this guy. This seems kicking off and a year from now he drops he does his Beerbaum on your porch in any drives away hits his horn and he goes Moore. You've been Beerbaum. Well he so. He did map out a route and I talked about that for the delivery. So and he really just wants to get out there and to make a difference I try to go into the group at least. At least once or twice a week. Just to. Say What's going on what's everybody doing who's going to drop bombs this week you know Again in the first month of the group, it was very active. The first month to two months. It was very active I. Mean it was you had people at least three or four days a week. We're posting that they were getting bombs dropped or people were posting. Where I'll take pictures before I, go drop bombs and be like I'm coming to your neighborhood you know stuff like that. And then it really and then it slowed down which these things have a tendency to do anytime. You ask somebody to get to do something give somebody something for free without knowing for sure that they're going to get something in return. It's a it's a dicey proposition in some people just don't WanNa do it. You know so I mentioned in the beginning that Jay is a massive. Tampa Bay buccaneers fan and. He says hey. Do you mind if I talk about the. The profit group that I'm involved in there's several of them in fact, across the the world all different names and I sit there as long as he doesn't mention Tom Brady. Oh. Oh, that's right. He did move there. Gosh I forgot about Oh and Gronk right as I think both of them went. So here he's going to talk about the. Buck a-alex the Alex is a it's a group that we started about. Five years ago two, thousand, fifteen and it really kind of started just as a fan group for Tampa Bay Bucks, fans who were not in Tampa. Most. Of the guys that started the group with me are all in California or Texas or Hawaii or west coast, and it really started that way. Now, we have over thirteen thousand members with over thirty chapters worldwide including two and three in Mexico and one in Canada and one in the UK. and we have chapters in like twenty five, twenty, six states across the country and what we do is we go to away football games and throw tailgate parties for our team. And we raise money for charity. Last year we raised twelve thousand dollars just over twelve thousand dollars for charity in one football season. So this year. By the way our charity is wounded warrior project and and we focus on one charity for the whole football season and every penny that we make with the few exceptions we do a couple of local things as well but yeah, that was this. This was our biggest event we ever did we had a thousand People Show Up, Warren? SAPP. was that our tailgate, the chief operations officer of the buccaneers on my speed dial he loves us I just did a video for Sunday night football that's going to be a part of hopefully going to be part of the Carrie underwood music video thing. They called up they called out a bunch of. Fans, season, ticket holders, and super fans and said, make a thirty second video and where they're going to use them, edit them into the Carrie underwood Sunday night football music video every week, and we have to Sunday night games this season. So I'm really hoping that I'll get to see me and my kids and my wife and all my friends on there. But Yeah that. and. You know football and beer. Go Hand in hand. So because of that, we've ended up having we've started other groups because of that we have beers and buccaneers and things like that. You know. But. We do as you can tell by everything I own, it's all red red and orange or the only colors that exist in my universe. So even the the beer trolls logo is red. I said, you can make it any color you want, but you better make me a redwoods. Well Buck Bucket Hollick's all right that's fine I. Wonder if the ever run into the Ravens Roost. And the real fan is. Of My buddies have been in Maryland. Baltimore Ravens I'm kind of curious of the buck Alex ever tailgate with the Ravens Roost. I. Don't know what the forty niners have. But when I read doesn't matter got your gold diggers. Sorry Well Hey. So we get out of the the the buck house if you will and we go and hit several. Residences with these beer bombs and so check this out. The sex. Ten sows. Every once in a while come to house Lebron's no the people. Most Sometimes we ring the doorbell sometimes we don't. It's more fun than when we ring the doorbell, but sometimes, I'll just leave it if I know there's somebody there. Continuing on our journey. Down three to go. So we actually came across a couple of different scenarios when we were out delivering these beer bombs here's a funny clip about us, coming in contact with a device that has a camera right outside That is, you know you can see I want out nowadays that's what people have. Everybody has one of these or lot of people do. So list of this, it's very possible that I made dot. com. Kim. I'm so busted there's a ring camera. I hate it when that happens. I didn't see them. So they didn't see me. That's hilarious. and. Then of course you know he's Trampling across grass and that's awesome. I'm thinking that that's That's of an occupational hazard in some cases suppose. One thing that he did want to impress on listeners and those members who are part of the truck area beer trolls is that it is better bomb. Then to be bombed. So know there's a lot to be said there if someone's going to just pay it forward miss really what he was trying to say oh. Yeah. Imagine having a bad day and you owe and you get this is kind of cool. Yeah. Free Booze. So what happens if you get caught delivering well Jay that they're mulling over an idea? To where if the person who is delivering the beer bomb? You know the the the front door swings open and they're like, Oh, I caught you that you have to down a beer right there on the spot. Before you can leave I thought that was pretty interesting. Yeah. Bear Chug. At let's say noon and yeah. You toss toss it up on unafraid. It's like almost your boys a dusty bottoms ultraman beer mile when it was called show. How many how does he do on a typical basis I mean is the three in or less or one once? Yeah. But it's between game three times. Now he's pretty fast. About four, he'll go he'll go out and he'll hit four residences every time he he takes off there. So afterwards, we came back to the house and he goes through the process of posting back online to make sure that people Know that they have a package waiting for him, I just posted on there and tagged the people who we just whose houses we just went to. So. That they. If they have already seen them on their porch, they'll know that there's something name. Here are some parting words from Jay we welcome everybody and anybody that wants to be involved in that in hope that if you do join, it's because you actually want to do something and not just sit around and wait for free. Beer. Well this guy sounds like a beer aficionado sounds knows his his at least as Beer I. I don't you didn't mention the brands just Raynham selection. Yeah I think. I think that why he talks about there being some people you know they are just they're hop heads they like Ip as some people are pails or browns or whatnot he he's not an Ip a guy. So no is it well known that Hey, if you're gonNA Beerbaum me don't give me tonight. Yes he he does talk about that. And in fact, he talks about some of his favourite beers and some of the categories that he puts him in. There's what I call my daily drivers, my daily drivers right now. Eight Oh, five is my consistent. There's never a day that I don't have any in the house. TACO. Truck from Dust Bowl is another one that I really like a lot blaker there. Honey babies is really good that blonde but they have a stout and I can't think of the name of it right now. Favorites all time I've I've always been a Guinness Man, Fr- for as long as I've been able to drink beer been Guinness Man. I like Newcastle. I like Brown Ales a lot because you get a full really full flavor, but they're not quite as heavy as a stout. and. That's probably about it. Okay. Okay. Good, good. This very good story brandon as I knew it would be for the Turlock area beer troll. He's got it there on facebook again. Yes. Pretty easy to find him. Sure. Woo. You're listening to life and sixteen ounces. What's in your pint? What's in my pint? Is a Scotch Ale called ten lizzy from right here in Turlock California. Dust. Bowl. That is my favorite thing that they make and they don't make it often enough. Tina, Turner is not getting me thirsty tell your boy has got me thirsty talking about beers did so I think it's time for. Beer Beer. Road. Views no alcohol. Sucks I can't take this much. GotTa Have A. Brilliant before we dive into our final story in a few minutes, that wonderful sound you heard means it is time to teach your twenty twenty head to head beer game called Berto. August we picked Brown Ale. And since we're Brandon's pub, you can do the Honors Ladies and gentlemen. This is the show's main event. In this corner from the Brewing School of Big Sky Brewing Company Haley out of Missoula Montana way here at five percent. 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But for now, let's continue talking about some interesting people. All right. Well, so you've got this story. You wound up in the High Sierras in the back woods is this out in or near near near near and air it wh- what's going on here? Well, I wish maybe I might end up in the High Sierra. Yeah. I've been trying to land this story for a little while now even talking about it forever and just because. A. Foil drive. Probably as quickly as I could. When I joined the military and with my bonus money actually bought a jeep. My brother had jeeps, trucks, all kinds of stuff in I'll talk about him a little later. But I had. Three four GPS that have owned over my my lifetime. And I've always enjoyed. Taking them out in sort of pushing them to their limits and I haven't done it in a while. I have a different vehicle and we'll talk about what what I've done with that thing boy because you were you're with me on one of those adventure. Yes. But for now, one of the things I did not I. Did notice when I arrived here in California was a sticker sticker was the California four wheel drive association. Or better known as CAL four wheel. These guys have been around since Nineteen fifty-nine nonprofit organization, eight, thousand plus members. They are umbrella. Over local clubs and there's about one hundred and sixty of those throughout California. The CAL four wheel dot com website you can go and find all the local clubs and obviously connected the ones that are are near your hometown. These guys. have. Events all over. California. That geared to every single type of vehicle both novice and expert drivers very family. Friendly. Run by volunteers and some events that they have. Yeah. Like for instance. The High Sierra poker run I, mean it garners like. You know hundreds of rigs and you know. Obviously people four hundred plus people. Where were you? How can you put that many rigs in one? Location, how does that work the while they? They select particular locations that can handle that type of traffic. Okay. I mean we're talking some cases thirty three mile long trails. Wow. One event, which is really neat to just to showcase how they are trying to make sure they connect with all bandwidths is they actually have a spree two, four, four by four how to clinic? So there you go. There are making sure that you guys know what you're doing out there and they can certainly help you over boulders. And through. Riverbeds yeah. Data the actually winch posts. Are drilled. into rocks in certain locations. So they they know where the trouble spots are in they can actually pull you out of those locations. So they kind of want you to do that in a way so you can know what your rigs doing. Okay. Anyway. Here's a little bit about California four wheel. Drive Association four wheel was. Exactly, history behind it but they were created to. More for the clubs to get together and have a bigger outreach. So we can be more powerful as A. You know I was just checking out their site. They actively promote the advancement of vehicle oriented outdoor recreation another thing they do which i. Think is important. They fight closures. So these guys are big enough to where they lobby lawmakers that restrict. Oh us which is off highway vehicle use. Can I take my Pinto Author ooh Yeah I've really neat story, for okay. I thought you were GonNA say Pacer No. But they encouraged local state and federal agencies to develop more trails and preserve the existing ones but. You know when you go and you look at their things, they have a natural resources specialist that talks about trash and dust emissions and endangered species and why some of these. Places are starting to get cut off and you know they're they don't. They don't like what's happening. So they they fight back. So associations kind of a it's a big word. Right? There's usually yeah you're using means hierarchy and lot of people and so is there are like? What are the smaller it's called are they You know they are the the clubs, the local club okay. Loyal Dry Clubs I mean they've got. Trailblazers in the Rock crawlers. Well, I found one called the king's Berg four wheel drive club. All right now these guys. Kings Bergen you know kings and then be you are G. There on Facebook Instagram, they've been around since nineteen seventy. They have about thirty five members. They're just south of Fresno and pretty much on the doorstep of the Sierra and sequoia national forests. Ryan Rochon is the club's president. and has been four willing for pretty much longtime so that it actually in his blood matter of fact, I think his blood type is o h V. Thirty three years of experience. Check out. Here's Ryan my parents were members of the club when I was born and I've been for whatever since. So now at the core of the club, not much as changed. But so much has a law hasn't changed too much the the rigs themselves have changed. Quite a bit on the way they used to be but as far as what we do. It's very, very similar except for now we're more. Get more active with the horror strain whatnot maintaining more trails and. And trying to put our work to help keep them open. So the wear and tear of nature and off road use. Provides a ever changing challenge, but it is also a concern the landscape for the trails they it actually does change year to year and the trails actually get get harder just due to you know being used and whatnot, and that's why the rigs have also. So trail work is a large cornerstone. Of. These offroad clubs. So they actually go up in they're working on. Putting these trails back kind of the ways that they were before. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's yeah. I'll mention something really cool that these guys do and it just it just makes. It makes it that more. Important to have them around. We mainly go in and if the trail does have any sort of damage will we will re- rehabilitate it and You know put Rox back where they're supposed to be but it does end up changing a little bit gets more difficult. Sometimes, we don't normally have issues to where. We. Get. kicked. Off The land usually you know it's mainly with our our work we do have to say as far as The Rehab Rehabilitation of the of the trails and whatnot plus everyone in our club always does our best to make sure we don't miss nothing up and always trash to what's the big deal for us now from four to two four rigs as a friendly outing. To two hundred. At one of these sanctioned events that I mentioned earlier, you potentially can have like six to four hundred trail ambassadors or trail or trash violators. So the right ones choose to follow leave no trace and tread lightly ethics and have written into their membership policy. So you see these off road machines rolling along the highway dirty wheels are humming. Convoy looking like. You just wish you could join them in their fun. What exactly. Are The doing and where the going. So here's Ryan talking about their club and their events like the snow poker event we actually go up the day before and. We have to. Run through the trail and make sure the snow's packed down enough to to run one hundred and some ribs across the next day sold onto the trail. Championing out. And then set up our our our base camp. So it's ready for the next morning then. We'll go back and hang out at the lodge. We've been saying the last year's that's up there the lodge. then. The next morning we'll get up super early like three or four in the morning. And then we'll run to the base camp and finish set matte all up and Drive ten miles up the up the trail to the snow before everyone gets on the trail. And set up all the checkpoints. And get ready to start running the rigs and then. That point in time it turns into everyone working together. We have people sitting at the. The main star, the of the run. and. They have to get everyone air down. And blown onto the trail at a steady pace we'll right for them to really sit down with trail. and. It can. It can turn into. A short run. Maybe four hours total or we've been out there. Til. Midnight calling people off the trail still Philip Maison is another club member and liaison. Wait a minute Ryan wait a minute. To. The United States for service as he works for the Department for the National Forest, he adds you know there's novice to extreme. You know kids that it just went out bought a jeep. They WANNA go out play in the snow they've never been willing you know It's set up so they can enjoy it but then you get the guy with the rock copper on forty four tonnes. Key can go out there and play in the snow, but it's one direction everybody's going and everybody's does a pretty good job helping each other out you know somebody gets stuck there hooking up straps and helping. But then we also have our club members that are in between the rigs. Let safe. There's one hundred rigs we have at least ten of our members in their spread out in between to help out, and so there's always somebody there ready with the wind choice strap or shovel earlier just to get out and give a little push. Some of the other events that we helped put on one coming up the house poker. There's actually different runs. So you can have an extreme run you can have an easy run There's limitations you know single rear locker, thirty, three inch tires, and then you have you know front and rear lockers and thirty seven inch tires and a little bit more extreme there some where people get a chance they might roll over and there's others where they just want to go to the lake and go fishing for the day and do a little bit of will in those runs are pretty massive and there's a bigger cal for wilt runs where you're getting people from all over the state going people come from out of state to attend on this year's a little different with the. Whole covid thing everybody likes to talk about. But we're still going to manage to put the run on this year, it's GonNa be real fun. It'll be interesting to see but it's always you know a treat to see new rigs out there that people are working on and you know get to sit and chat with everybody and you know watch them rock crawl and people rolling and you get the while effect tires up in the air and it just yeah that's when you get those bigger runs you get a wide range of vehicles people they have some night runs. You know. So then you're willing at night, which is a totally different aspect. So Phil Throughout what draws people to these clubs. The events off roading. You can check out other rigs, permits, window shop. For your next piece of gear you can network you can learn new skills like running the trail maintenance you know managing tire pressure. Get confidence in your vehicle. From his go where most people don't against family oriented they have raffles for winning cool gear. But. In a world. Thank you very much, Brandon. Of covid. Oh. Things have to change, and this is how the club is dealing with the common thing like for us you know usually have a big raffle. Everybody's excited about the RAFFLE. You know after a long day on the trail, you get a hang out you know, eat some dinner everybody hangs up by the fire and trying to figure out who going to win the new winch or the set of tires or this, and that that's all gonna be different. This year there won't be any food. The Raffles, going to be a little different, you be standing next to each other and all that. So where do these guys go to practice their hobby? I guess well, for you who who never likes to leave Modesto. You're if you're not in the Fresno area, I mentioned one hundred, sixty clubs, you can find one near you. However the actually all hit the trail circuit. Keeping mind obviously the gas and travel time, etc.. Kings Berg explores from truckee to death valley. That's a pretty large area absolutely and then. The. Also from the High Sierra to the coast. Mostly on far service land. And then. NON-CO VID. Locally, actually they go out around at least twice a month. Now for those like my brother owner of t and J specialties in Westminster Maryland. Free Plug. Exactly you welcome James, let's talk shop. Here's Ryan I personally four wheel on a normal type vehicle I have a Iraq call eighty, seven Ford Ranger on on one tons and lockers five, thirty, eight years and forty, one, five tires and my snow rigs eighty seven Broncos. So I don't have all the wanted by all aftermarket parts like everyone else does for their jeeps I own three GPS. Three. Crashed one and. and. You get these catalogs in the mail a lot for tricking it out, and it's like the thickness of. In brain his case like a Bible. Or. An encyclopedia. Fill ads this I mean you see different leagues like, Ryan. And he's got his ranger and his Bronco and he's happy with that. You know and I've seen both of those rigs do more than some of these other fancy stuff rigs that you see. They got all the doodads on them and you know you get the other guys are even those ultra for cars. You see him and start on for hours just the way they're fabricated in the crazy travel suspension has and. You know their axles just beefed up just to bash rocks and then you get other guys that go out and their desert racers and they're setup with their long arm travel stuff bald. Mountain swamp. Lake. Near Coyote brewer. Like the last one, right I are you daming. All the episodes from Star Trek. Episode. Three Now these are all these trails they typically go on but their favourite. The DUCEY, him. Right okay I had to have him spell that. A. ducey irksome. Is a thirty three mile trek. Some say is actually harder than the Rubicon trail near Lake Tahoe. It is located in central. Sierra National Forest. Now, to tie this, all all the trails at mentioned to tied into the show Brandon they actually adopted a trail to maintain listen to this. We have our trailed brewer that we adopted him. Now that's the trail we do work on and it's it's a fun trail nice and rocky and. It's got a little bit of everything you know for all the rigs different different types of rigs to go on the old brewer trail. and. See good name right maybe maybe we set up outside the old brewer trail and having a little. Get your lemonade. You remember when When we got stuck. Do I own. Yes. I tell you so we in the snow we yeah, we were in the snow actually. Up Near Eighty I guess near the near the truckee area actually. and. We are trying to go bag. Mel Lola. That's correct. Yeah. Mellow. which finally did. But we went out there and it was. I think it just snowed. And it was to get pretty cold that got into the negative numbers at night negative fifteen if I remember. Yes. Anyway. I. We did pretty good. We got we got we got so far back there, and then I got stuck and no matter what I could do to my jeep although I tell ya not G my truck. I I couldn't free ourselves and I know that. I'm sure these guys from the Kings Kings Bird four wheel drive club. Wanted to do this, because I could have gotten I want you. We may have to I still have a poster poster. Yes. He gives you a picture of us being stuck, but we may have to post that we will on I just think using that I. Remember as we dug it out, we couldn't do anything got too late. We basically pitched our ten right next to the truck and And survive the night. The next day we had up in freezing temperatures in the only way that we stayed warm was we continued to to dig out. Of massive blocks, the ice underneath the truck and I remember you holding one up I think I might be the picture we might post. Remember. The snowmobilers King by you guys need some help you. Dumb, ass. Your help we're we're we're just we're just camped on the road. Moron. Anywhere that was pretty soon the other time I got stuck. And you see a theme here I was also going out and camping. But it poured down fifteen to twenty inches of snow. Poor down so much that when I came out of my campsite. And I came to my truck. It was a mound. It was like this white man my think that's my truck. And? Immediately. Unlike this is not gonNA go well. I cleared off and I actually was able to get going and I got up the first hill to get onto the main road and I. Teetered over a huge. Tree that had fallen over. and. That's it. I basically see-saw on top of this you know. I wasn't I didn't have enough high clearance and there you go. My none of my tires may traction with anything and when I did do enough I started sliding over. Oh Gosh and I probably moved about three feet closer to the to this probably at least a three or four hundred foot drop off. And I was like stop. That's it. Dot Messing with the truck you're done, you're never going to get out and that's when I got my stuff. I hiked out the almost like two three miles to get out of the trail in onto the main highway, which is fifty up in echo summit area. NEAR NEAR El Dorado, and heading to Lake Tahoe. Anywhere. But anymore. You don't. GOT got out there and got some reception and I was able to make phone call. And at this point, it was done I had to leave my truck their overnight. I knew nobody was going to go back there because it was call and. I've called three or four tow companies and they went. We we don't go back. They wouldn't have vehicles that are going to make it back their bar. Sorry, Dude you're you're on your own. To want him said, why don't you call one of the foil drive clubs hang up here? That's a great idea. So I contacted a club using the cal four wheel dot com. Website and found this guy in he actually was the treasurer of his club and he lived like a couple of blocks from our house in Sacramento at that time. Come on over Yeah. I'll do it in house. I'm willing to pay you I'm thinking what a truck driver. Charged me I'll give you three five hundred dollars. I get over his house and he's like, yeah coming back to the the rigs in the back. Turn this corner and he pulls down this tarp and it's it's like a tank. It was massive just gigantic like forty four inch tires which probably come up to your shoulder. And it was on on a trailer because it's not not street league. Okay. Anyway House like that that is going to do it. So he hitched it up. We took off we drove up there. We'd talked shop and things like that. We pull up to the place he does all these things to his truck. Rolls Right off the trailer. You know he's like hop in they might get. This is I mean I'm hop hop really humid climate unlike rock climbing to get into this thing. We fly he flies back there. I mean just floating over the the snow just churning it up I'm like this is beautiful. Just back he's my truck. I go. Hi I'm sorry this is going to be. There's nothing. I get out hooks the winch to it right. Now and he he ruined the small one trail one track lane and he has to go up this hill to turn around. He goes up this forty five degree angle and stops and sits there. And I'm like Oh he's GonNa roll over. And he creeps down backs up like you said. Hooks up his winch to my truck pulls it out. Seconds flat and I go. That there goes that three to five hundred dollars. And Then, he shows me. Just like this club does shows me, Hey, this is what you have done to get over this obstacle and this is what you could do to your tires to make it a lot easier to get out. So he deflates my tires to like ten PSI. I mean they're paying quaking right now on the top of the snow and I follow him out I learned a little bit of stuff in also gave him confidence with my truck. Drive it all the way out probably never have done been able to do that by myself. thinking. I'd come on. I should know this. I mean I know you. You can deflate your tires and I know I shoulda done that but I'm thinking what I get out of the highway. You'RE NOT GONNA drive down the highway on ten. Psi No rims we I think we should probably we should bring this backup during the the winter months as well. Works same way in sand. Absolutely. If you get stuck if you deflate your time, that's what this guy had on this trailer. He had a compressor and cell. He deflates it gets back to his trailer and then puts them back and he's fine. Most of these guys have. y'All got back out there and what's great about it was he said, don't worry about him about the money that was fun. and. said here, sign sign up for subscription to the CAL four wheel drive magazine. That's kind of how I I. Knew about them. So with that said I thought it was great and. It was quite quite. But what I? What I didn't I didn't see any signs saying that I get stuck. Yeah. Of course kidding. I know there's not signs that say, Hey, you're going to get stuck but Phil says people need to pay attention to that stuff yeah. Read the Damn message boards so they're forced H we. Department their their group they do a really good job. Some people don't always see the big billboards. They don't stop to read them, but they do have difficulty system. So depending on what trail you arrive to, there's a big Carl had signed gives you some Camp Info gives you some leave no trace stuff and then there is a sign. There with notes you know. Certain size tires recommended whether you need. A real lockers recommended carried extra tools don't go alone. You know take your first aid kit have some sort of. Radio communication or you know with your other members that you're going with your buddies So there is. There is some sort of info posted and then it's also available online. A lot of people don't take the time to you know they just care a trail and WanNa go out and will with they don't take the time to do any investigation or follow up and there's actually a lot of Info online that. Provides with all that good information as far as word camper, we know the hotspots where's a good spot to stop for the night next to this? Laker. What you should or shouldn't take her, you know if you're capable of making it or not another reason to know before you go and covert land. It has launched these masses who have been encouraged to stay away from hotspot cities, their usual and to get lost to get outdoors alone though head for the hills but that's not happening before this stuff happened in a recreation was on the bottom end of the totem pole in now with everybody being cooped up inside and wanting to get out recreation side of the Forest Service in Park Service and the other agencies though just seen a lot more people out there and everything's getting hammered. But the further you go back Alec on DC Ocean or swamp lake any of those are the less people. Kind of get get away from everybody. So if you have a truck. Or trail rigs or well brain like you said, a souped up Pinto. Yeah. I've got mine on. Massive. Four wheel drive tires. Okay. Yeah. Four. Looks like a clown car. On a on a big balloon. And you want to get involved. Or join head to California wheel and become a member and get your sticker find club and contact them to join is much like how kings Berg handles their membership. So so mainly the to join our club, you have to have a whole drive vehicle and has to be licensed and insured, and you have to attend one club outing and two club meetings to be able to join our club and somebody from the club has nominee to be voted in. Then the whole club has vote. These clubs do are mostly do good deeds out there like trail maintenance. Kuenssberg received a grant. To help one of our main objectives while we're out is educating people you know, hey, this is closed. This is closer. This is why we don't. Drive around the gates or cut the locks or I've actually seen people. With backhoe or something pull the gates out so they can get in for our trail work. We actually go in with four service and we will you know pick out problem areas of the trail do arose it's be done put Roxanne were where the water's been roden through anything like that brushing. If the trial's getting overgrown with brush, we've done a lot of brushing this year old brewer trail on it. It looks like a new trail now it used to be so tight. Do there you could barely drive anything. Without scratching the sides, even a side-by-side, we'll be scratching the side of it but no safer vehicles. So a lot of our job, not just our goal is just educating people out there like the tread lightly the leave no trace, the respecting the land everybody sees a gate close to no no. Now, the clubs in the fourth service are bad because they closed the gates and they won't let us in and you know. So it's our job to explain to him. You know this is why it's closed. It's a seasonal closure. We need to do work for you guys before everybody else can go enjoy it. So that's why we need to close it for this week. So we can go in and work and make it safer. Make It. Possible. For you know for the public to enjoy themselves so go to King's Burg's sight facebook and instagram and see what their next events are if you are within. Driving distance of their location. For instance, they have Molina Ghost run which I think again might be postponed or. You know again, better better check. Because there's a scene called, oh. Yeah covid. So thanks a lot pre she. It's bill in Ryan. Brain and I'll tell you this. Fill. said his said what's in his PINT PACIFICO? That's cool. Man but you know what? They give a little love to some local place. So here here he is giving a little to local place. Hey, this is film zone with Kingsborough. Draft Club and you're listening to life and sixty. Now I have my Red Kirke and my General Sherman's from Togo sequoia. This is Ryan Rota you're listening to you the president of the drive club and this is life and sixteen ounces. What's in my pint my red fords and Mind Hayes? Thank you to all of our guests who were kind and brave enough to step up in front of the microphone and share what's in their point. Well it looks like we are approaching last call. Let's head back into the ring for beer does. Occur to beers enter, but only one leaves but both get drunk. Exactly. So to paint a picture here, we had a random audience member poor my beer. Huge audience tonight. Huge poor my bears the big. Sky Brewing Company Moose Drool. and. Wade's. Cigar City Brewing Maduro. and. We don't know which one is which here. Yes. But we've hydrated and we've written down our ratings from one to five. Yes. So let's see what beer takes it on the chin. And goes to the Matt. The winner will make it into the champions bracket in return at the end of the year, which we're getting kind of close. Yes for alternate beard drinking game also known as a long day and night of drinking, oh. All right. Let's start with aroma for. One I. Have. gave. Never. One eight two. For. Aroma I thought that it was a multi and then it just kind of dropped off I didn't really get anything from the nose on it. gave it a three. Okay. I barely got. Anything from swirling around roasted notes chocolate notes. That's. As about. Checking the. My nose works today Geez. I gotTA, throw VIN alright alright moving into flavor. I gave it a three I. I said that it was not to Roasti of a of a taste. Somewhat. Fool. In. Whatever was going on guests the You. Felt there was something in there. Yeah. I said it was well balanced. And a standard. Brown. I gave it a three. Also I felt it was. Multi, not hoppy which Brownhill. Sunia classic Brennan should be yeah. There were slight chocolate not in there but I felt it felt it fell a little flat. gave it a three. Okay. Moving onto mouth field I, give it a three. I would definitely have more than one. it was non lingering and I felt as though that it was refreshing. I gave it a four I felt it was creamy smooth with little zing and I would agree I would have another one of these easily. Closer to our Allen. I guess we're almost save wavelength. We're Brown. Ale Fan fans, and we know what? He likes lost coast. Downtown Brent Brown and which I do love that as well and I I grew up on nukii Brown Newcastle. Brown not the log Anita's Brown. Right going into number two. The Aroma I gave a one. One There was. It was like kind of a toasty roasted. But that's that's it. I. Got Nothing off of it. I gave it to. I same thing I was I was trying to get something out of it. I. Felt it at sometimes it was more pronounced but honestly you. No and what's weird about is I guess? What do we expect from Brownell? Honestly. So? You're not you're, not getting. Nestle from Brown, Ales like you're already hazies and certain as and pails. So maybe we're being a little harsh but I gave it to. All. Right. Moving onto flavor. I gave it a two. I believe that it fell flat even though it was it was highly carbonated I. Didn't know there was not much. To, go on. Certainly. The multi was there but I didn't think that it was robust enough to give with more than a two. It was carbonated more than the other one I felt I gave it a three. There were there's something different about different hints of hops the other one I couldn't taste any hops or notice any this one that I felt there was something underlying flavor that. was was. was off putting in away watered down taste down. But also wrote that. Moving away from German Emmys me a brown to a German Bach. gave it a three. All right. Now Field I. Slammed it down to a to. I said one and done on this one. It disappears meanwhile he bought a six pack. Came in ruins six, but it dissipate so quickly that. There was nothing no lingering. Anything with it at all so Even what? I gave it a to i. gave it a three. Okay. I felt this one had more zing which I don't necessarily want more zing Brown. In a watery again, I, just felt there was that. Constant. Feel of too much morning. So there you got three. Well while we send our numbers into. Calculated machine tally up the scores. What were your overall impressions move on Prussian for Beer number? One? Was I felt it was more balanced. and. Although. Not much to it I guess but it also thin to the Classic Classic Brown Category Yeah I felt the same way. I think you basically summed it up right what about number? Two number two I thought was kind of. It would be an an off brand of Cola if you will. It's. Something that I wouldn't have again. Unless I didn't have the money to buy the the name brand something. It just felt like so that it was wasn't up to par. Assessment. I felt mult base was definitely different from the first one something about the hops. I'm very curious about. But hops. Pushed. Through. in mid further away from what I typically like about Brown Ale that I like. Alright well here come the final scores in a sealed envelope. Before we reveal the winner. Which bigger? which which beard you hate the most. because. I like both these while. I'm not going to say it but. I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA guess I'm going to go on a limb and say that number one was. Cigar cities and Madero. Or also known as my beer and number two is your. News Drool through. Sky. Yeah. Well I'm going to reverse executive what you say. Controversial. No I really felt this way I think that the first one was Moose Drool in the second one was the Maduro. That's kind of. So you're saying you you probably guessing you don't like them adore. Oh. No, I'll take the Moose jaw. You'll take them maduro over. Yeah. Yeah I. Don't know why. But yeah. Maybe, maybe he likes. Montana and I'd like Tampa Florida. Bookaholic. Getting, older. All right. Boy. You GotTa get a history going here. Let's see. If somebody nails this brandon open up that sealed envelope. All right. So the score for the first beer is eighteen points from F- alive. And the second beer has thirteen points of huge difference. So that makes number one, the winner of beer, Dome, which happens to be. Love. I was. Actually got it. Right. Then yet one usually it's like. Okay, you didn't guess it right but you still had the better is. Well. That makes. Maduro yards. From Cigar. City Brewing Tampa winner of the August Bier Dome Fight Hey forget twister folks and played this game at your next party or brewery visit pat and Penny Board game, all Richards early. We will see you. Hey, this because we talked about the bucks. Hip Bay Baby. So Yeah Florida's Point Never GonNa down to the park. 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Amazon Works to Remove Price Gouging

WSJ Tech News Briefing

10:09 min | 1 year ago

Amazon Works to Remove Price Gouging

"Take Your Business beyond fast with connective and network solutions from comcast business nationwide secure reliable powered by the nation's largest GIG speed network. This is your techniques breathing for Friday march. Sixth I'm Qatari. Yo come from the newsroom of the Wall Street Journal. The Corona virus has been spreading and as people try to protect themselves against getting sick demand for basics has skyrocketed now. Some people are taking advantage by gouging prices on online marketplaces like Amazon. A reporter Sharon turlock will join us to explain what the sites are doing to stop it. That's after these headlines. Facebook has taken trump campaign ads down from their platform saying they violate the company's policies around the twenty two thousand census. The ad started running this week. And they asked people to take quote official Twenty Twenty Congressional District Census but then they direct users to a trump campaign fundraising site visit says. It's removed the ADS. Because they contain misleading information about the census which goes online next week tech. Talk as hiring. Its first chief information information security officer. It's part of the popular video APPs. Plan to reassure regulators that it can be trusted to protect users data in the US. Lawmakers have already banned military members from using the APP. And they're considering taking more action. They think tick tock could pose a national security threat. Since it's owned by the Chinese conglomerate Bite Dance Tick Tock has been working to distance itself from its parent company and has said that it has not an won't ever share information with the Chinese government and concerns over. The Corona virus have also continued to impact markets but a few stocks are actually rising during the outbreak induced volatility slack the Workplace Messaging Company Close. Add close to six month high on. Thursday more workers across industries being asked to work from home. Shares of slack have risen nearly ten percent this week. The video conferencing service zoom is also surging with a week to date increase of twenty one percent but to be not everyone loves lacking with coworkers or at least not with all co workers tech researcher. Alexander Samuel is the author of work. Smarter on Social Media. And she's got some advice on how to use slack. One of the top complaints I heard from people is specifically about folks who don't stick to the threads on slack. It's an all one big party. There are sub conversations. So pay attention to the threads and try and stay on topic for the threader channel. That you're part of and if you stick to email at work. Samuel had some advice for that too. I think it would be helpful if people start to think of the CC. Field as the Harrow. Pepper of inau communication. It is fabulous in limited quantity. So if you are routinely ceasing people on most of your correspondents. You're probably seeing too much so think about whether the folks you are seeing on. This thread really needs to be part of the conversation. Do they need to know? You want the beginning lunch option or not. Just go to the person who email you and if you are adding people to Assisi thread because they need to be part of it take a moment actually explain the context instead of just dropping them in and expecting them to read the previous seven emails in the threat held a little. Psa there after the break whether they're working from home or in the office people started to stockpile staples like toilet paper and disinfectant. And that's driving up. Prices are reporter share and Turlough will join us to explain where a two pack of hand is going for close to one hundred dollars. That's next comcast business. Connectivity and network solutions help drive IOT devices. Ai and virtual network applications at peak performance to improve efficiency and customer experience for Your Business Rely on comcast business for nationwide secure reliable performance powered by a gig speed network comcast business beyond fast. You've probably been getting a lot of reminders to wash your hands. In the past few weeks you might have even started carrying hand sanitizer around with you or bought. An extra large bottle turns out. You're not alone as you know. A lot of people are trying to protect themselves. The Corona virus and as they are sales of things like hand sanitizer through disinfectant wipes. They've all been on the rise now. We report that sellers online marketplaces like Amazon are trying to take advantage of this situation by raising prices. A lot putting a stop to that price gouging though on those platforms is harder than it. Sounds our reporter. Sharon turlough is with us to break down the situation. Sharon thank you so much for being in the studio with us still as everyone's working from home glad to be here. We really appreciate it. So we've been seeing prices rise across the board Amazon Walmart Ebay. Tell us about some of the products that we're seeing affected here. Sure I mean you're seeing Everything from face masks which I you know have have sold out or and huge demands things like wipes clorox wipes Lysol wipes Purell hand sanitizer. Thermometers all those things are selling out quickly and where they remain on those online marketplaces. In some cases the prices are very very high. Like what it changes all the time so I just checked maybe ten minutes ago. And there was a two pack of twelve ounce bottles of pure L. Selling for one hundred dollars plus shipping and so You know that's about Normally pure would cost about forty seven cents. An ounce for an eight ounce bottle In this is Closer to five dollars an ounce. That's crazy so people are trying to clean hands services. Who Do we know anything about? Who's responsible for this sure we? We know that it's third party sellers So no big. Retailer is accused at this point of gouging so certainly products that Amazon is selling. Your Amazon itself is selling You aren't going into a CVS or a walmart or walgreens and seeing these prices so these are sites open to third party sellers and that are that are notoriously difficult to police. We normally think about Amazon is kind of being the biggest company online marketplace. That has her party. Sellers SELLERS TURNS OUT THERE. Actually a lot of other brick and mortar places that also are letting through parties sell on their sites right. Yeah I mean they're really Amazon is the big one Walmart does as well There's there's less when we check target. Recently they're just we were really didn't see any of these cases of gouging So so Amazon is the majority of it seeing it some on Walmart Ebay and Amazon marketplace one could say there are a little different in that that's understood to be consumers going online kind of you know selling to other consumers says a little bit different. What are the sites doing? I mean this is. Obviously you know happening right now in a time. When a lot of fear is spreading as well as the coronavirus. What are the sites doing to try to stop this? Price-gouging sure I'm Amazon has been under pressure from US lawmakers to explain exactly how it's dealing with the situation they've said they realize it's an issue The company came out and said that they've removed more than a million A million products both for price gouging and for false claims So they've acknowledged that this is a battle for them they have been asked to provide by by some us. Lawmakers asked to provide details on exactly how they're doing this so other than to say that they are monitoring that people can report. It's unclear exactly how you know how they're going about fixing this. I mean it sounds like kind of an inconvenience and also like not nice right. If you're trying to get parral and you're you end up buying it for a lot more than it's really worth but you have also spoken to behavioral scientists who say that the price gouging is actually a threat to fighting the spread of the virus. It we talked to some. We talked to some folks. Experts in pricing and behavioral psychology and part of the issue is that people who have higher incomes who have more money. They're more able to you know driving their own car to work from home to go to their home. Upstate and get out of the city. It's really people and they can get paid time off so it's really people who rely on public transportation who have service jobs and maybe you don't get paid time off who who don't really have an escape for a way to stay out of the population. Those are the people who are most likely to both get and spread anything and so if these products are not available to them because they're too expensive they're still going to be available to those people with higher incomes. Right correct yeah. All right Anything that we should know. Are there places we can go to not get price gouge? You know we've been talking to And I've just been watching kind of local community groups. A lot of stores are still getting shipments. They're just getting them. They're getting them early in the morning or late at night so I think going to the store earlier rather than later I think a lot of people are just going to their local grocery store or drugstore and saying hey when do you expect to get more and showing up and I know. Some of the retailers are thinking about whether there needs to be some type of rationing. The you know. The companies that make these products are looking at the situation. So so there's a lot going on so the techniques breathing. Psa as go brick and mortar reporter. Sharon turlough thank you so much for joining us. Thank you and that was your techniques breathing if you like this podcast. Don't forget to subscribe and you can rate and review in your APP store. It really does help ideas about what we should cover. Dm US on twitter at WSJ podcasts. Techniques breathing is produced by Amanda Llewellyn. I'm your host Qatari. Ogm from all of us at the Wall Street Journal stay healthy and thanks for listening.

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Streaming In Place: TLOK S01E0910

The Televerse

36:31 min | 9 months ago

Streaming In Place: TLOK S01E0910

"To the television. Streaming. Of Kara welcome back to streaming and place I am not kate calls. This week twenty five we are discussing see book one air right of the legend of Cora a episodes I didn't look episode numbers. And Out of the past and turning the tides as I mentioned I'm not kate calls like and the reason that I'm doing this is because I I've been simmering like like Tiki at kettle about to boil where you just hear the leg rumble. You know like the low rumble before the scream because I, what I want to know is whether or not the two of you decided to play me. or You were really did you mean it seem like these episodes were like? They're fine. You you may. You may seem like that as the. And? I, was at, was it to break my brain finally and fully were you know corona virus? No president this all of this stuff was finally going to push over the edge is a combination of buying too much murder. She wrote merchandise on that see and us not warning her that this huge episode was coming so that her brain would melt out of her ears which I'm now drinking out of this Mug. So before I say anything you were you. Were you to playing me up first of all I do not say anything of the sort I said, I don't want to talk about it. So this is not no you said you didn't remember how much you liked these episode. Yeah. I remember liking them but I remember like that he's actually but they're and but no feeling is mostly on you. This is mostly directed A. God you turn you utter charred. Oh here's the thing I remember out of the past really well, and I think the past is fine but there's some stuff in there but just doesn't hit in. I. Think the same way. I had Kinda. Forgotten about what happens at the end of turning the tide Leeann. Yeah legitimately legitimately forgotten. Actually, even better than you playing me because it also played yourself right now I have I. Have Legitimately forgotten about some of the stuff that turning the tides except for. General Iro showing up voiced by. Always Spray Zuko. Because, why not? Because that's not confusing for anyone. Honestly didn't find it confusing. But let's talk about that later continual. But also what I appreciate it and I was just like this was something that I was really appreciating like at the beginning of our discussion of this whole season of Oh. Right knows she thinks Asami looks like Vanessa wait until we meet new generalize. Because guess what everyone here's Prince era. Among. So insincere in charge where do you WANNA start. Will I guess let you know what? No you're great memory. Let's start with you and I and I wanNA make sure that we talk about out of the past and I'm also happy to hand back over to kate now because I really should manage his conversation. But let me said of the beginning of it We should talk about out of the past, but there is so much that. Happens and turning the tides that I, made me think quite a lot about the number of times you've mentioned that Cora was only supposed to be a one-season show because this is like four episodes turning the tides is so many episodes in one. So is do you think that's part of why you don't really remember in? How was it returning to this episode with sort of Fresher is I think that's part of the reason why I don't remember that there's just a lot of stuff that happens and I think that there's also just the fact that. I haven't really watched this section of the season in particular. I think very much were as ivory watched a the first half like weirdly a couple of times I just never continued on. So this is actually going to be a little new almost for me like I remember the general arc of how everything with modern plays out but I, don't remember. Like. Other. Things like the actual the aid be. Z.. So I can't solve for A. B. C. and D., but I can solve frazee because I know what Z.. So, going back to this in particular returning types because I remember everything about out of the past. But going back to turning the tides I was just like alright all the stuff with Lynn right and it all came rushing back to me and Everything, where she like zooms off to deal with the BLIMPS and everything and I'm just getting like Yeah Lynn mother be long and then I as soon as I did that I remembered both of the things that happened in this episode, which is saying that lady is my hero which breaks you. And then what happens to her with them on with her bending in taken away and I was like, right? Right forgot about all of this and then all came. Rushing back to me when she like went to go pull her a her mom and destroy. So it was a lot. It was a lot. I've forgotten how much turning the tides had in it like all I really legitimately remembered. Iro showing up at the end with his prince, Eric Haircut and all his worships. Might you say that. Turning, the tide. Turns the tides. It does in theory on but you gotta wait for those for those worships show up three days. Like that turning the tides is like Oh yeah. They turned the tides. For Amman. Lost everything's coming from odd like we'll usually get that title. It's like they're going to turn the tide the now our heroes are GonNa know now this the finale is a two parter as I recall and so we're headed a to like. You know the end game and they will literally those definitely last episode called. And they are just not messing around with these episodes I. I. In the past because I feel like, no, you're underselling it because I thought out of the past works really. Well, I liked all the flashbacks that we get I feel it means a little clunky. They could be it could be a little bit more. Transitioned into an out of but when we be, you know they've been teasing little bits of. Our favorites all growed up. In their forties and so like Y-. Y when we finally show us these scenes. We know Ho- a powerful and. How? Just. How much how how difficult to best our heroes were when they were fifteen? So. After you know tough and hang had another several decades to home their skills the idea that. They can be blood ben so easily. At the same time really tell like just underscores. What's happening in the the size of the threat I liked it they give. I like that it's they don't stretch out or anything, but the notion, of course well, I'm trapped in a platinum cage I literally can't go or do anything else. Will Transmit Haitian Dune. Immediately works it's like it's like an knocking on the head it'd be like, Hey, hey, I've been trying to help you out here off Tarlac. You did me a solid in this very strange and horrible way. But I I like that she doesn't sit there and yell all that long isn't she just like almost immediately immediately assesses the situation says, okay here's something I can do and then we get our flashback Asimov's you think of the flashbacks. I thought the flashbacks were great and I think that their place of perfectly season not just for purposes of exposition and moving the plot forward. But also because seeing them, as you said, kate as seeing all of our faves as grownups sort of I, think plants a seed, a little reminder seed that as children. Children can also be formidable children can be heroic children can do incredible things so that you know twenty minutes later in our time at least you in the next episode when we see our air bender baby kick ass, it's surprising, but it feels very connected to A. it feels like. All of a sudden you put a different set of goggles on in your brain sort of shifts to a different age. It was really cool to see those sequences. So close together I liked out of the past a lot. not as much as I like out of the past the film. But. Doesn't yes but it's very good and sort of similarly elegant to look at I. Think it's really well made We get some more chases lots more chases. It feels like this is a very chase heavy show and I'm super into it some good drama. That's all great. But mostly out, we get those incredible flashbacks and those sort of underlined the things that I found to be a little bit wanting in the episode, which made me wish that it had taken more time which is i. think the most important piece that isn't a piece of information. That's character thing is. How. Core is growing not that chorus growing not that court is learning to be patient but how and why and how hard it is to fight, which is some to fight for that, which is something that Avatar did really well with all of the characters but especially with an in sort of showing us what was preventing his personal growth and how hard he was working to move past it the cost sometimes associated with it and the pain and the struggle, and it's Not like, I WANNA see chorus suffer but I also don't want to see her closer is immediately become great at meditating like it's a very different story of the thing that was holding core back is that an she doesn't feel like it and I don't think that that's the story trying to tell but it feels like we missed a big chunk of chorus struggling to make this connection and how it made her feel about herself and and what it was especially because For lack of a better term mindfulness is such an internal personal thing. That's difficult to do i. mean it's real especially if you're an active person if you're a person whose brain moves really fast I am obviously one of those people you. Can't always walk into the quiet room even if you're in a middle bucks, right like your mind just races and it's very hard to find a place of stillness with yourself, and if you can't find that with yourself, how on earth can you connect to in this case previous selves so that I found a little bit not frustrating so much as like a bit of a missed opportunity, but it was still a great episode in the flashback. Knocked me right in my ass have scary. How cool. How moving my perfect Sokha I love that he's still name-dropping boomerang all stuff. How often do you think soccer tells that combustion man's story Oh all the least once a week now as Much more and then people I'm assuming he's married maybe two Sukey or maybe not maybe he's just happy. I don't know. But somebody in his life was like listen man you gotTa step telling that story it gets longer it gets more elaborate. Known believes you we've all. Just bigger and taller than further way every time he tells it the boomerang just source on the perfect parabola or whatever the actual geometric term for that is. Just perfectly. Every time it's just gets more amazing. Each tells me and then he tells the story and then tough goes I'm sorry don't you mean sparky sparky Boom Boom Man And he gets very mad. Yeah. Marcus says they can from the combustion man was fire bending the thing I like about the combustion drop namedrop. There is that it's a reminder that this is not a new thing to have someone be. Specifically in uniquely adept at a subset of like the overall bending. That them particularly potent, right. So combustion man with fire bending and you're calling with blood bending. So like like this isn't a new thing we made up for core guys. We've been doing this the whole time sort of from the writers yeah I think my problem with out of passes really everything that I just said, but I actually consider it frustrating. even though the demands of being. A what was intended to be a twelve road miniseries went off kind of requires you to have at least one episode in which it's just a big narrative shortcut to get you to. turlock comes kid. So here we are everyone. Here's here's the thing So that we can get to that and that so that we can have that information and solve that mystery and then lead into this larger thing of Amman take Amman showing up seemingly out of nowhere taking turlock spending and then taking rock. And that is interesting I. Think it's just the ways in which we get there. I think are just kinda frustrating and I agree that it's very much a well platinum box I guess yes. No like you said Kate it's just well, I, guess a half to do it now. Because I don't have anything else to do and I can't punch way out of this thing but we do still get your of your resource for like her way of tricking up lieutenant with holding herself up on the bar zeal shocks the pod. Yeah it's knee. So cool I'm not sure it's how that works. Clauses that could work. Rapper it could be lake. Rubber Gauntlets I mean we're we're in sort of a sort of a bat universe thing that she could be wearing something. That's. I'M NOT GONNA go to that Yeah I. Know Marcus says it seemed to be such an Info dump and then seemingly resolved the turlock are all in one episode. It did not result the law COP. So just look forward that there's Jason Water now, there's more defined out in like a couple of hours when they watch it anyway So I, think that's what it is even though I still enjoy like a lot of the stuff with team Avatar plus linen tencent trying to find her and then getting misdirected by. But still discovering like a major equallised face and how they're moving around the city so well. And so I think all of that's pretty good. We get to see a lot of good leadership from Lynn as well in terms of. Calling for action that kind of stuff so I think that there's a lot of good stuff. It's just the meat of the episode and the thing of the episode just kind of they needed to do it and they couldn't figure out slightly moral again way to do it. Well. Let's move to our main episode here, which is turning the tides and Alad Star with Lynn because just like it's So epic. It's so amazing her last stand and like like this is the humor. Remember what did your back in the day now this seventy years later and she her daughter has had a lot of time to practice and she is chest. So amazing the the scoring is really good there. Yes it's very straightforward. It's you know stereotypical epic scoring but I don't care it worked on me. And the timing like that they give it the look back the decision. Yeah. It's just really issues. Really Cool. It's really well story boarded in structured. I think that Whole Final Act. From The decision to depart. Through that last shot that we get a General Iro. Is is honestly pretty magnificent it. It made me feel. Oh you know when back in the day when we you say it's on nickelodeon Sunday cloudy. It's hunting. I feel like I can't say that anymore You know what I mean I know that it is but it was brutal in a way I wasn't. Totally prepared for. Incredibly sophisticated in terms of the way that it's story boarded and the dialogue in the structure and all of the choices leading up to it that allow that act to sort of flow the way it does it feels like the first time. That court has really capitalized. Fully on the history of the show and our emotional connection to that history because when Lynn turned and looked back at those blimps and then looked at that family. I was thinking about all of the things she must be thinking. All the things she must be thinking about she had just reminded us that they are the only Arab vendors in the world. So there's that piece of it, and the stakes are incredibly high for that reason alone then all of the back story. between the two of them between ten and Lynn suddenly gets a little bit richer and fuller and more interesting and more gritty because it's not about the drama it's not about the love triangle. It's about something else entire. It's about history in connection and compassion and forgiveness, and a bunch of things like that, and then she's looking back. So I'm immediately thinking about her mother, which means I'm thinking about this woman also as a child and. What her mother was able to do with that blimp and what it's going to mean for her and watching her make that decision was so moving. and. And then it sort of made me realize that we've been getting nothing but hero shots of her for like two episodes leg. We got the taking the badge off hero shot and we've got leg go back in the house and I'll like all of that stuff here are shot after shot after here are shots so amazing so that it feels like a gift from the show to the character right that she gets these amazing battles before this. Huge part of her this fundamental part of her is taken away and then on top of that, using that as a way to get us in this sort of Sauro full admiring place. So that when we hear that young man say room, we hear the hid his report say General Iro we are fully prepared for all of the implications of that all of what it, who that we hear his voice and then we hear his name and it just. is so rich juicy and interesting and sad and poetic, and I just thought it was beautiful. But I think the single best decision about all that and I swear to God I'm almost done talking. The single best decision they make is Naga Punch Mustache man out of the air. Yet her dog bare fist in the middle of it because it's so awesome and satisfying and funny but it's just a spike upward. It doesn't take you out of the place you're in it just heightens it and makes it that much sweeter and stranger and more painful I. Think it really that last act is astonishing. Yeah, we focus on the. Dog Part of polar bird dog a lot with Naga That's a full-on polar bear moments and yeah, it's very, very good. Knowles are just brutal and vicious and should not be masked with you now you're pulling. No. Seriously you're not supposed to miss with Moose, and you're not supposed to mess with polar bears because any animal that surviving in the Arctic, Catch Doug to you don't you don't mess with. It's now there's there's a reason theory to survive up there. Because you don't mess with them. Know How was this upset for you revisiting everything would lend. It was really odd. I was just. Remembering it as I was watching it, and then just like getting slightly a bit ahead of it like I said, just really ramped up for me but I also just really appreciated the ways in which Lynn through these cores these two episodes as Alison gets a lot of heroes. Stuff gets a lot of like real. In terms of who she is and what her priorities are. It feels much more about her than does about Cora on the rest of the team and I'm like that from a character perspective. So that when you get those little spikes like with Naga, pulling to convey Motumbo and just smacking lieutenant. Out of the air. Allison is cracking up right now listeners who my solid solid. Late. Nineties early auks. No. We can't wait to tell a joke. Sorry, continue. But it also makes me feel Obama of lieutenant keeps getting hit out of things into the ground just what happens to him But you also get all the stuff with the kids showing up to help her as well. So you get journalists screeching in with Kim. Away. From my dad's ex girlfriend. Which is just an amazing joke. But then you get me low for bending. A. which is just an amazing little joke. That you can just imagine aiming looking from wherever the Avatar is and going. That's my grandkid right there and just like nudging nudging. Roku going. See My kid grandkid right there. Ric I've got all these pictures see. So it's just I think. It's very funny. It's very amusing. So I, like how they just kind of lay layer in that sense community to to your point. alson really ratchet up that The danger that they're all in because they they they have shied away from the fact of not mentioning the fact that tencent's families the only vendors, but they're the only urban. All the other folks are just acolytes people who ascribe to the air nomad like philosophy and lifestyle but they're not actually air benders. It's just ten Zain and three kids. Yeah that's it. Maybe four who knows we won't know about row Han for a little bit or Roman said Yeah Yup we all knew about Ron. For Pem Sake. I hope and pray. Question for Noel did. Mike crazier. My remembering that tenzin had siblings he does have some. And they're not benders. I imagine we'll have to watch. Dora had re hydrate go ahead. Thank you. Yeah. Now tencent has siblings. We can confirm that they are not air benders. But what they are, we don't know I will say that one of them going forward is much more prominent in the other one from remember correctly. That later. Yeah So I think there's just It just really ups the stakes in a lot of ways. And so it's just really exciting like I don't even remember like. Or even really WanNa talk about all the weird relationship dramas or the fact that they're really teeing up Asami for face he'll turn over a jilted heart because. macos a jerk just a jerk Margot's dumb. Stupid Ham so much. Like it's like Monaco, you don't need to not feel what you're feeling. You just need to also be sensitive to the other people that are around you. While you are fueling those things in expressing those things, it is very possible to be worried about Cora and not addict your girlfriend Those things can co exist I. Think the the absence of really job of keeping you very strongly with Asami over all the way. As this is happening like, yes it could be setting up a he'll turn but for me, it doesn't for me. It doesn't really feel like that like if I look at the plot points on lineups like okay. So then we said of the Hilton, but for me the performance and just the. Some of the choices, Lee animation like in the reaction shots. And also the work they've done setting her up to this point does it feel so much like that as it does like a great. So now I'm GONNA here. With my boyfriend I soon to be ex boyfriend and the girl he actually likes, and my dad is is a nutjob extremist and I don't have my mansion anymore and we in crash the car and Etcetera Etcetera. She's having she's having a rough time. Marcus is, how old are they supposed to be obviously older than the Avatar kids but they still teens And knoll the idea. I. Think it was for like people who were like the Avatar gangs age is when after the last airborne there started had then aged, you know x number of years while that shows on the air. So then Cora starts with around roughly the age that the fans would have been like a Harry Potter aging while you read it kind of situation. So like late teens is kind of the situation for those characters as I recall. Yeah. Like. corers like canonical seventeen. So I, just kind of assume that everyone else's around and Lee seventeen years old eighteen. That so because it kind of helps explain why they're all just so bad at communicating. In part because they're TV characters and in part because they're teenagers. So I think that that's sort of like how you're supposed to split that difference with like how they're behaving be out. So there are nearly teams like I think generally across the board, you're supposed to consider them in their late teens. Now. So any other aspects of this episode, we WanNa, talk about the like. With the immediate rushing of stakes of like. Among is gonNA come from your for your children to obviously guys what show have you been watching And the I. Already. Mentioned the night but I like how? Like Oh. Yeah I understand what's going on? You. All right on my back right now because obviously I'm on board. So let's get out of here. Were there any other moments? Any other aspects you guys wanted to talk about I didn't take notes this time so I have less I did once I realized that I'd been had. I paused and started taking notes Yeah I mean this is just a hope not so much as a prediction is a hope but what I hope is going to happen with them our little love quadrangle. That's really more of a triangle is that that chorus going to say do this is kind of weird like I don't know what's happening but she seems nice and it seems like like there's a better way to deal with this and then they become best friends and then maybe they also fall in love. Koran. Asami to be perfectly clear no I just I want to say again, how much I admired this episode I don't know that it that I think it's the the best episode of Cora. But I, think that last act is as good as any of the stuff that we saw an Avatar like right on par with the very best. Acts or set pieces of the show I just found it very moving and sort of can't wait to watch again like I want to watch the finale. Obviously I'm really stoked. But part of me just wants to watch that last I. Don't know seven or eight minutes again because holy cow isn't that remarkable. Like. We've had about three scenes of len mental bending. And like being a bad ass like that's it like there's there's you know the the winner is and then there's this basically and is a yeah, that's all we need. We're like that's enough. Will and we've seen her and we saw I guess there's the chase Yeah. The the tunnels chase. Every time we see her use her tough vision at chest. Woo. It fills me with so much joy and I think it's really cool to see that sort of connection between the two because then you get to sort of imagine tough teaching her how to do that and teaching her the way that she taught an and and that's all really and then thinking about, oh, well, what was saying Lake, with Lynn, when she was a child because obviously they were buds and and all of that stuff it's very fun to sort of fill in the gaps in in that relationship for me yet the was it a few episodes ago when they're like, oh no. Got Along Great. With. With Lynn or whatever it was the. On famously. Now that Yeah, it's. Imagine think about that it also. A in all of Avatar, we only really got a few scenes showing us what IRO is capable of in in. That is one of those things where you're like hike wish we had got he only got the fire breath once. Kate that's such a good comparison because. You're totally right and yet my my memory of that character, my response of that character one of the things that looms largest is his formidable abilities what she has to do with them. So it's great to sort of have that connection and while it's what happens to Lynn is heartbreaking I assume that means we're now going to get to explore what it means for that character to be in this position, and while upsetting that is also super interesting just like exploring anything with Iro in terms of his grief and his concern version go and all of that was also very interesting. So. Yeah rough, but let's do this. nuts I do not just that I'm very excited I watched the finale discuss tomorrow. Okay, well the final two episodes. Of the season episodes, eleven and twelve are called skeletons in the closet. And engaging. So. Thoughts. Predictions alson skeletons in the closet I assume we're going to learn about a new skill call bone bending where and this is this'll be what among can do, which is somehow connected to energy bending a case soul bending and and he'll get skeletons out of their graves to turn on the style totally and turn them into a a skeleton army. to fight on his behalf. But that is when all of his followers will realize that he's been duping them and then they'll fight the skeletons. That's my prediction prediction to what was the other one called. Endgame. We know what the avengers ripped off. So the finale will be Tom Hyping journey through. Beveren during the time between the two series that's I guess Endgame Great I I'm guessing that end game in endgame ooh This is going to be a deep cut. We'll see if anyone actually responsible this joke we see that. Let's say. Lynn No. ooh, who should it be? IKI Is that Middle Child. That Hickey is living in a trash can. And she sitting in her trash can next to. To Lynn who's in a wheelchair and it's the apocalypse and they just talk about the end of days and nothing happens and then it ends. Okay. Market has I think it would be Mierlo. Okay. Yeah. No it networks it's not that this is a Samuel Beckett joke. Yes just making sure. I figured maybe you guys got it. I'm not sure that you know I don't know how into Beckett Vinci's, for example. But that was A. It was a bad one and I think I also through some happy days in there it's been awhile. Anyway it's not like you do either you went with. The cold endgame. Yeah. Yeah. So Anyway. But I also do Godot. Joke I would love to see Avatar the last air bender style waiting for goodell bringing. Oh. My God and Sokha just waiting just waiting at the crossroads. I would love that so much. It's definitely those two guys who kidnapped cloth. Yeah Fair I. Don't WanNa make any actual predictions although you know what I'll make one prediction I'm going to predict that we get some spirit world stuff and that Cora, can't really control it because you said it's book to spirit. So I'm guessing that's going to be the real meat of it but maybe like in a super precarious position, she goes into the Avatar stayed or she for a while I thought when when Naga woke her up in the snow that we were going to realize that that was some spirit world, Shenanigans and then. They showed the city and I was like, okay I. Guess Not So yeah, I'm Spirit World Shenanigans is my only ernest prediction. Okay. Marcus predicts that core will air band at a crucial moment a good prediction good prediction We'll have more thoughts on this tomorrow when we talk about the finale various looking forward to it, and then on the day after will do on Friday. We'll do our end of season kind of wrap up. Can't believe that we're at the end of the season already feels like betraying the show are gonNA tease anything. Or are you just GonNa of me again I'm not. It's good. It's really good looking forward to it. I don't want to spoil anything yeah. Okay, Great. Okay. So we'll leave it there. Thank you to markets for hanging out with us in the zoom in for sharing your thoughts. Thank you to everybody who's listening will tomorrow by.

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Success with Money Magnifies Envy and Jealousy in People (Hour 1)

The Dave Ramsey Show

40:23 min | 2 years ago

Success with Money Magnifies Envy and Jealousy in People (Hour 1)

"Live from the headquarters of Ramsey solutions. Broadcasting from the dollar car rental studios. It's Dave Ramsey show. Where dad has dumb cash is king and the paid off mortgage has taken the place of the BMW as the status symbol of choice. I'm Dave Ramsey your host. Thank you for joining us. Open phones at triple eight eight to five five two two five that's triple eight eight to five five two two five. Stephanie is on the line starting off this hour in Minneapolis. Hi, stephanie. How are you? Hi, dave. Thanks for taking questions today. Sure. What's up? So I have a question about how to navigate family relationships when you start making like good money. So my husband business went from zero to gross two twenty in about a year and a half. It's going really, well the trajectory is up, and it's awesome. But I've already started getting somewhere coming from my family. So over that time when we started when we started making some money, I was pregnant we upgraded to a tuft and needle mattress and just like a little thing like that. Or we joined a nice gym in the area, and we get these kinds like ooh moneybags over here. They oughta money, and I think when joined the gym it was you must win the lottery to afford that kind of stuff, and so it's just been weird. And with the trajectory of our business going up, and they came on money getting to live the life that we want to. Vacations, and and things eventually I just don't know how to navigate what we already have is a really good relationship with my family. But it's starting to get a little weird holidays and stuff when we let me tell them what's going on. So yeah. Just don't know how to do that. Well, the good relationship number one. If you have a good relationship, and someone says something that is hurtful you are able to say that. Yeah. So, you know, I I know you probably many thing by that. But when you said that it was like you were requesting whether we should be successful and kind of hurt my feelings, I just need to say that to you. If you have a good relationship, you can do that. If they're just jerks, then you would just have to treat them like jerks. And the thing is what happens is money doesn't cause things money magnifies things that are already there. Good things and good things and bad things. The quality of you. If you have a high high quality relationship highly functional it will become even more. So with large sums of money around if you have weak and petty relationships that everyone acts like is, okay. But under the surface, it's not then that will be magnified as you have wealth. Your daddy. Is proud of you. When you get wealthy will be very very proud of you. Yeah. But if your daddy is drunk and his dysfunctional and takes his. And has to be king of the hill or he can't be in a conversation because he's screwed in the head. And all of a sudden he can't be king of the hill because your net worth eight times. His then your daddy is going to get worse. You know what I'm saying? So that's what you've watched for. And I'd pick up Henry cloud's book boundaries. Because that's what this is. It's a boundary issue. And read through it, you'll you'll enjoy it, and it can be with functional things as simple, as you know, what one thing we've been very very careful to do with extended family is just not too. We just don't talk about a lot of stuff that Sharon, and I'll talk about and we'll say, well, I don't know. So and so can really emotionally grasp that, so we're just probably gonna bring that up. You know, I know we talked about that with extended family or friends or things like that. And odd friendships friendships is the same way I've got friends that can't emotionally grasp some of the things that we're able to do for charity for ministries. The you know, I can remember the first time I gave thousand dollars to something. And I can also remember the first time I gave one hundred thousand dollars or something. But you know, that I can you and I can talk about that now in front of everybody. But it's sometimes very awkward with a friend of twenty years ago. You know, and so I just have to be pretty calm and go, you know, that's. Talk about them, more and me, less and mobile like that. Anyway, that's just good conversational manners. And. I might not if you went on a super super nice cruise. You don't have to tell everybody you're not going for them. You're going for you. And if you are going for them, you shouldn't be going. Right. Yeah. You know, just and I quit buying cars for other people. I got really nice cars being a why? Because I liked driving them. I don't really care whether you like it or not I liked gravity. That's why I got it. Didn't do you. You know? And so, but you know, casually comment about a car must be nice. You know, what we can remember the middle people chice, you know, spine. Really is. I grew up little people I've been little people my whole life. I'm just a little people that got big. That's all it is. So just chill your. But you know, but you know, that's what runs through your head. But you can't say that out loud. So I I will tell you that there's a certain amount of awkwardness and weirdness that goes with the territory, but the same thing happens in any area of your life that you grow. Let's say you came from home that was not that didn't have the faith, and you became a a very strong person of faith, and you grow in that area. We'll you're going to get I rolls over that too. You know? How's it going over there? They handle snakes. You know, you're gonna get people. How's the Colt operating nowadays? You know, you're going to get these snide things from old friends and family that were not there when you were that different person. But you've changed a lot now. And there's it's just envy and jealousy and their two of the to the devil's work tools. And then they are different. And it's interesting to study them. It's a good. It's a good discussion. So thank you for let me get up on soapbox. But you know, jealousy is I'd like to have what you have. And that's saying something like must be nice. And you kinda mean it like I really liked to have gone on that trip or that house or whatever envy is I don't think I can ever have that. So I don't want you to have it either. It should be taken away from you. And that's envy, and you see both of these things pop up in the political landscape these days with the whole wealth inequality argument that kind of thing, you know, the evil rich people say that that's true straight up jealousy. It's really in because I shouldn't have that. Because I don't think I can ever have it. And that's the that's the same thing. But she just watch for that stuff. And then you can address it or you can choose to say, I'm gonna limit my conversations about those kinds of things worst case is that the person is toxic enough ofr end or family that they have to you have to distance yourself from them because they're never going to accept that you're winning and you not winning to please them as an absurd idea. You can't go. I'm gonna fail at business because Bobby is going to be upset if I win. Well, screw Bobby remain bobby's just gonna have to take a ride. You know, it's crazy, right? Can't do that. So there's a Bobby in the booth and they're all laughing at him. And they're not you Bobby different, Bobby. Oh my gosh. All right. Hey, good discussion. It's one thing that happens when you win at anything. But it definitely happens when you win that money. This is the Dave Ramsey show. 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Trust issues, mainly that my wife has two times in the past six years, just randomly taking my son just and just left. Didn't tell me where they were going and just like Staden hotel 'cause allegedly. She was scared of even though I've never heard her anyway herb and saying on occasion, but but not not by screen. You have you guys been saying the counselor? You know, we keep talking about doing it. And we've been to counseling before, but this time feels different to don't bother if neither one of you wanna save it. But if you want to save it, you know, sometimes people can help you rewire your brain. It's not a bad thing. Well, how can I help you today? Well, what I what I really wanna know is like what kind of steps should should I be taking for my financial future are being one of the things that we argue about is. I mean, unfortunately or four letter word household, you know, she she hates bring up, you know, trying to create a budget together. I tried talking to her, you know, about like, hey, you know, what what your dream? What do we want to? What do you wanna do? Let's let's set a goal and with that let's build our budget. So we can, you know, pay off what remaining debt we have. And and let's do something big, you know, and and she said that I've, you know, destroyed Oliver dream. So I I at this point. I'm fully on board with you. And I have control the money because she does not work and doesn't want to work. She's she is disabled, but I still think she's capable of working. She's had a number of of spinal surgeries, including fusion's. But you know, she can she can answer phone loan. You know? What's been married? If we last it'll be twenty years on July twenty first. Well, we have a thirteen year old son goodness. And what do you make? Sixty eight thousand. Well, the the day that the absolute decision is made not not the legal process, but in your mind or her mind, then this is not repairable or done the day that happens it turns marriage into a business transaction. Yeah. And so then you're just dividing up debts, assets and your income. And you know, the certainly child support with a twenty year there might be alimony. If you have debts, those will be divvied up in some way, and the decision on the house will be made and these are just transactions in other words, where our life used to occur. Yeah. But it changes the switch has to flip to where you go. Okay. That is not wise business, and I'm not doing that anymore. Well, she's going to be mad. Well, you don't care if she's going to be mad. She's now the X, right? She doesn't like that really care of you like it. It's not I'm not gonna do that anymore. And so, you know, no, we're not keeping this house. You can't afford to pay for it. And you wanna stay in it. And I'm my name's on the mortgage. So the house was going to be sold. You're going to be renting renting. And now, we gotta do whatever it is. You look at it. And you know, this this car does not fit in the situation will we will be selling this car. So you become the bankruptcy liquidator? The pre bankruptcy liquidator guy in your own life. You know, and you go I don't really won't be liable on this note, and this woman sitting over there anymore. I don't want the contingent liability of that. I'm not gonna let her drive a car that has my name on the note. As an ongoing thing. Now, you would certainly do that with your wife and say, the problem is the reason I said the day, you think the day you have the decisions made one hundred percent, there's no chance of reconciliation. Once that decision is made you're going to take some financial steps that's going to further damage the relationship. You've all me. I do I do. And so it's gonna get kinda cold and calculated at that point if you're using wisdom, but at that point, it's you know, you have two concerns you and your child. Yeah. And and I would like to be nice to this other person. But I'm they are now no longer my job. Yeah. And so once you decide that or she decides that then then the switch flips. And so I would not there's not kind of middle ground like how can I prepare for divorce in case? We don't reconcile now you really can't. Because as soon as you start preparing for divorce, it's going to damage the reconciliation, right? You're going to have to make some really tough decisions. And this is why this is going down going to be pleasant because it's not gonna be pleasant for either one of you how much do you guys have? Never much in total about ninety two hundred much be on your home. Real about sixty two thousand on the home. Good and no, no car payments. My my wife had seventy seven hundred dollars in student loans, but because of her because of her multiple back surgeries, it's she's one year into three year situation where she doesn't work then they'll be forgiven. Well, she may not be live on child support. So she may be working. I have to find a way I'm pretty sure that may change. And I don't know I don't know Missouri's of rules on alimony twenty or marriage is often opens up the that's a long marriage. And so it often is up the door to that in most states, but I'm not an attorney. So you have to figure that out. Yeah. That, but that's you're gonna this is now suddenly. A cold transaction and it damages. So that's why I was asking the other questions. I wasn't just being nosy was trying to retain where you are on reconciliation. I think my marriage is coming to an end is different than. Just saw an attorney. We're following this. Okay. And so, you know, you got to decide that. And you know, you can you can put some as you come down to the finish line on something to to the decision of. It doesn't have to be where you are. Now or absolute I'm done, you could say well under what circumstances what I'm not be done. And let's try those three things, and if we sat down with the counselor, and we could change the narrative of the situation while I wouldn't be done. But an so I'm gonna give that one tries twenty years in thirteen year old son. I'm gonna give that a try and then the counselor. You know, you get some parameters, and you go, well, you know, we're not abiding by that we can't do that. So it looks like we're going that way. But let's try this one other thing. And now we're done, you know, we're gonna tend this marriage retreat weekend marriage salvation weekend. Where people go to get their marriages put back together kind of thing been work. We're done. Okay. I'm try this. Do that. And you know, then look for behavior pattern changes that make going forward. Real. And hopeful or if you two are just one of just completely done and don't even try anything. Then you're not left on the options. If going forward in a mass is your only option most people don't. Without any possible hope of change other than just a lightning strike or something. So sad though. Sorry, you're facing that open phones at triple eight eight to five five two two five. Our question today comes from blinds dot com. The number one online retailer of custom window coverings free samples free shipping with new promos every month you save even more use the promo code Ramsey. Maggie is in Arizona. Every time I received a paycheck. I put a large portion toward our mortgage. Each month. I make one normal mortgage payment and two sometimes three extra principal Vamos a heard on your show the other day that making more than one payment a month, isn't beneficial. Is this the case, please advise I'm trying to be responsible and pay the mortgage as quickly as possible, you can send it all in and three different checks during the month. But it has the exact same effect of having sent it all in one check. In other words, there's there's no interest advantage to sending in three different checks or one check though, the same thing it all happens in the same month. Or if you send it after the fifty eight it's going to happen in the next month. And so. Is not any harm in what you're doing. But there's no benefit to what you're doing other than your trunking on the principle. This is the Dave Ramsey show. Over the years. I've seen so many family suffered by not having life insurance. It's not that they didn't care. It's just that. They didn't know. So they did nothing. That's a huge mistake. Listen term life insurance is the only way to go its not complicated, and it's not expensive. Please go to zanderinsurance dot com or call eight hundred three five six forty two eighty two and get the info you need to take care of your family. Trust me, taking these simple steps. We'll let year family know how much you care eight hundred three five six forty two eighty two. In the lobby of Ramsey solutions. Carla is whether it's hey Carla. How are you? Great. How are you? Deserve where you from turlock, California. Cool. We'll welcome good to have you. And you all the way over here to do a debt free scream love it. How much have you paid off twenty hundred twenty eight thousand six hundred good for you. And how long did this take eight and a half months? Wow. And your range of income during that time two hundred thousand to three hundred twelve thousand though jumped up one hundred and twelve thousand eight months, what do you do for a living? How'd you do that? And then he our nurse. So you just went crazy working. Well, there were a few other things I received about eleven thousand back from the IRS ear. I started renting out a studio that I have in my in the back of my property and rent it out, my master, bedroom and bathroom, it's men. Come and then I had a rental property that I own with my ex fiance. So I got rid of both that baggage. And. Generated about sixty six thousand two hundred okay. All right. Very cool. So that helped with one twenty nine obviously, and the sale of that and everything else. So what other debt other than the rental house was the one twenty nine? Well, I didn't include that rental house on my oh, my dad. It was credit cards consumer debt, I owed the IRS for a couple years two thousand fourteen and fifteen. A jeep. And then the studio that I renovated in the back. Did you sell anything other than the rental in the field say? No, okay. Very cool. Congratulations. Yeah. That's dead in a very short period of time. When you go on go on don't wiz right from beans, man. We went to Jeep ever worked and showering at work and come right back sixteen twelve to sixteen hour shifts. Wow. How's it feel now that you're free? Was it worth it? Yes. Totally worth. It totally worth what fired you up so much eight and a half months ago. Well, I was working hard at the time and. It just hit me like a, you know, brick wall. Like, I'm just so far in debt, and it make some money, and I'm just living from Patek paycheck after do something with my life because I want to retire eventually and enjoy my grandkids and my family and everything. So I just started about three months before. I met you. I just decided you what I'm gonna pay off win credit card at a time. So I started with a smallest one month later. I mentioned it to my daughter. My oldest daughter. You know, our kids are always smarter than us. And I mentioned it to her. And she's like, why don't you just do the Dave Ramsey baby steps, and I'm like what's that? And you know, being the Amazon Queen I was I got on the phone like is this the book and need to buy and she's like, yeah. So I bought it read it in two or three days later and just started it and wiz Gonzaga gazelle in tents and blinders on focused, and when the student is ready the teacher will appear. It's true. Oh. Amazing. I'm so proud of you. Thank you bet. Your daughter is. Yeah, she's here with me. She made the trip over to celebrate with the grandbabies. You life is good on your planet. It is. So what do you tell people now that you did it because this is a huge success story. You are a hundred and twenty nine thousand in eight and a half months. They sold a rental property. You worked like a maniac? What is the key to getting out of debt? Well, I would say budgeting, of course, everybody says out, but mostly just staying focused on one step at a time because I'm like, squirrel. You know, I already want to be on baby four and just doing one step at a time and just trust in the system. I made a couple of visuals, you know, graphs and everything like that. Because I'm a visual person. I should have been a guy, but a visual person. So yeah, I had the graphs, and that's the main thing just staying focused number of folks that do this that are nurses is amazing. And I think the correlation is there because in in your world of care, obviously, there's a prescribed methodology for treating a certain thing. And you don't really do squirrel on that. You gotta do the prescribed methodology or you can lose your license. It's incompetence. So you're used to submitting your wims to a proven system. And I think that your rain is already wired that way and you're in your Crozier career field. You know what I'm saying? And I think that gives you an advantage in doing this. Where someone whose job is to always call her outside the lines and always be creative. And you don't do creative medical care. That's not a good idea. It's how people die. So, you know, we don't do that. We do a prescribed process, and you do I don't. But. And so yeah, you submitted yourselves to the system you said don't change the program just do it. And that that's a big deal. Isn't it? Thank the hardest part for me was stopping my 4._0._1._K because I'm not a natural saver, but I do contribute to my 4._0._1._K. Max it out every year? So what was hard about it? Stop just not doing it stopping it during base. I was hard. I mean, it's scary. Yeah. Because that's the only thing. I know. That's like that was the one thing that was working, right? Because I you know, I see my 4._0._1._K going up. So like my goodness. Okay. I just got to trust it. She trusted. This was part of that. I mean, I always try to emphasize real heavily that it's a temporary thing that help you be able to go out for I can do it for a little while. I think that motivated me more actually like, okay, I had already paid in ten thousand for that year and max out at twenty four five. And I thought you know, what? Okay. It's just fifteen thousand dollars and the next year of the to get it back up. You max it out here. Yeah. Wow. Look at you. Well, done who's your biggest cheerleader your daughter and who else daughter. And the rest of my kids and family, daughter-in-law and everything. Plus, I've been to financial peace university classes, new life, and turlock and redo deamer church Modesto. Wow. And just being around, you know. You know, same like minded people that gets you in the you gotta get positive peer pressure. Plus a shout out to all my co workers that have had to listen to me for a year talk about you. The whole program and. And I have so many people at work doing it. Now. I've bought almost seventy books shouldn't be spend my money on them. But how and I've given away about almost seventy books to people strangers co workers whoever months one we'll fan. Yeah. Oh my goodness. You're huge customer way of giving back. Well, done very well done. Well, I'll give you one today. We're going to give Hogan's everyday millionaire book signed by him because there's no question. That's the next chapter in your story. You're gonna retire millionaire. Without a doubt you are on track. Keto absolutely very cool. Carla from Modesto California hundred twenty nine thousand dollars paid off in eight and a half you eight months making two hundred three twelve count it down. Let's hear a debt free scream three two one. That. I love it. There you go, man. You're never too old. You're never too young to be smart. You're never too old. You're never too young to be smart. The start saying this is thing. But you know, what there's something about us. And I'm one of you. I'm the same way it is hard to as a friend of mine said to me while back submit to someone else's system. People don't like to do that. I don't like to I'm a rebel. I don't want to submit. But if you're gonna stay alive you submit to a proper process of care, if you have a disease you submit to that if you don't there's consequences, and this is a proven process for the disease called debt and the spreader of the disease called the Bank. This is the Dave Ramsey show. Thank you for joining us, America. We're glad you're here. Open phones at triple eight eight to five five two two five John's where the Chicago eight John welcome to the Dave Ramsey show. Hey. Hey, thanks for taking my call. Sure. What's up? Got a question. I have been able to save up quite a bit decent stash of savings. And the only that I have is a mortgage of always been a avid investor and those lucky enough to get locked in at a low rate three and a quarter. So just carry through thought having a difficult time convincing myself to pay off more mortgage with such a low rate. How much do you own your mortgage? About one eighty okay? And how much is the non retirement nest egg? About ninety. Okay. And so you don't have enough to pay it off. Creek. So I've been trying to decide as it makes sense just throw that chunk. It that way. Even though it doesn't pay it off. Okay. And the what's the home worth? Styve twenty good. Okay. And how much do you have in retirement? 4._0._1._K about one fifty IRA in Ross of about one hundred. Okay. How old are you? Thirty five. Oh, good. You got a great start. What do you make your household income house? Only one forty great. Yeah. You're in great shape. You're doing great, man. Okay. Well, here's what we teach. And then more importantly, why we teach it. Okay. What we teach is a thing called the baby steps where you're debt free everything. But the house and have an emergency fund. That's one two and three you've done that. Then we suggest that baby step four that you start investing in retirement. Fifteen percent of your household income. Are you doing that? Yeah. So you got you got twenty twenty five thousand dollars going into retirement accounts of your two thousand bucks a month. But that ten percent my 4._0._1._K and then about another ten percent just goes into savings. Okay. But it's not going into retirement. Yeah. Denver since going into the your tires we suggest I'm just trying to clarify where you were on. What we teach. And then I'll go back to walk. Okay. So fifteen percent of your income going into retirement is what we would recommend. And so that would mean you would put ten percent your 4._0._1._K and five percent more into Roth IRA's in good mutual funds, and your 4._0._1._K you being good mutual funds. That's baby step four five is kids college. Do you have kids do and you need site for their college? Right, right. Is there something independent what we've talked about that's covering that that I don't know about. And you had five twenty nine plans. How much does? About seventy five between the two of them and their Howell. The kids. Five eight entice you got a really good start there. Good. So that's we can kind of check that box and use keep adding you've been adding systematically to that sounds like and you keep doing that six pay off the house early. So above fifteen percent going into retirement and above kids college check, we would say though, everything at the house, which is the ninety thousand dollars. That's in discussion here unless you don't have an emergency fund. If you do don't we'd use some of the ninety thousand for that. And though the rest at the mortgage. Why would I do that? Okay. In the reason is very simple as we've studied millionaires over the last twenty five years, and we just completed the largest study of millionare's over done over ten thousand of them. We find to start with that somewhere in the neighborhood. Seventy nine percent inherited nothing and somewhere in the neighborhood of ninety percent inherited not enough to make the millionaires. So ninety percent of. Millionaires. In other words, are not millionaires because of inherited money, but because of their habits, and what they do with their money and the two primary things we see that those habits that caused them to be successful, meaning hitting a million dollar net worth and above is the primary initial levels of wealth, the first Megan or two million is four oh one K and paid for house. Now, the paid for house not only is going up in value and stabilizes, but we do not find them saying I'm going to borrow as much three and a half percent money as I can borrow because I can invest it and make a better rate of return. We do not find them doing that. We find them getting the house paid off and using the increased cash flow of not having a house payment to then go bananas on their investing and their 4._0._1._K's and non 4._0._1._K investing starts to go through the roof. But if we fast forward, your situation like five to seven years, and you're sitting in this house by then it's worth seven hundred and by then you'd have five hundred in your 4._0._1._K's, probably seven hundred and your 4._0._1._K's you'd have about a million and a half NetWorth million seven net worth of which seven hundred thousand is your house. You would be typical in the case study that we've done you'd be a typical case study of the Representative statistically. Of the typical millionaire. If however you didn't pay off the house, you might still reach millionaire status, but you would be very unusual among that group. So the data points tell us that the millionaires are paying their house. Now, why would they do that because of risk because one hundred percent of the foreclosures occur on a house with the mortgage, and when you have zero mortgage, and you walk in the backyard, and the the the grass feels different under your feet. It's mind by God, you know, kind of thing it changes the way you operate the rest of your money because you're standing on such a more solid foundation to live your life. You don't you? Don't a lot of people changed jobs because they're no longer worried about losing something we're gonna job they hated just to pay bills. They changed careers. They they take a little bit of more calculated risk or something and we see their incomes go up overall. And so it's more than just a three and a half percent mortgage versus mutual funds return. There's risk in there. There's. Life in their their stability in there. And and that's why we're seeing these millions do that. So all of that to say, I would pull enough out of your ninety thousand if you don't have a separate emergency fund to fund emergency fund of three to six months of expenses, though. The rest of it at that. I would adjust your saving by up five percent into got total fifteen going into retirement five percent more going into Roth IRAs in good mutual funds. I think kids college is on track. I keep doing that throw the rest of the mortgage. And then anything else you find in your budget that you were saving above that. Fifteen percent thought at that mortgage mortgage is gone. I think your mortgage will be going about three years, and you would never borrow on a paid for home to invest. And so you wouldn't keep a mortgage a good question. Thanks for letting me walk the with you Blake is with us in Atlanta high. Blake welcome to the Dave Ramsey show. Hey, David speaking with you too, sir. What's up twenty six years old? I'm engaged to be married and August of this year. I'm looking forward to my fiancee's in accountant for pretty major company here. That's based in Atlanta. She makes a round eighty five thousand I'm going to be starting a new job this coming week making right at fifty with potential to move up quickly and make a bit more money. The only debt that we have between us is her mortgage the home as it says right now has around eight thousand dollars an equity. We both have emergency fine. There's no other dead at all don't we don't even have credit cards. My question is ultimately we want to buy around thirty to forty acres and build a house on it. Is it possible to do that without taking out a bunch of personal loans and go into the mountains of debts, or is because I know if we house we can get a mortgage, but with land and building a house for my understanding from what she's told me, and I've read you can get a mortgage for that. So I'm I'm just trying to find the best way to do what it is. We're trying to do. Well, you can get a construction loan on that has a permanent mortgage takeout to to cover a portion of this. It would cover the construction and some of the Creech a forty acre track usually is not gonna qualify for a conforming mortgage Fannie Mae FHA type mortgage. Okay. So it's going to be a Bank loan of some kind that can be done. So with the kind of money all are making the good shape. You're in with a good strong down payment. You could do a construction loan by the land in the construction of. But it'd be a Bank loan. It would not be a traditional mortgage. And now, you can basically construction on encompasses the purchase of the property and and the build out, and then the permanent mortgage encompasses both of them as well. But again that is not a conforming loan all of the only other way to break. It a part and parcel. It out say, I got five acres here. I got thirty five acres here. Thirty five acres painful cash. Puts this hour of the Dave Ramsey show in the books. 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A Very Human Culture . . . with David Hernandez

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A Very Human Culture . . . with David Hernandez

"Welcome to creative innovators. My name is jay johnson in our guest. This thursday is david hernandez from colonized media. He is a self made creative innovator and he has done some amazing things. You may have heard him on the innovating music podcasts. That we used to run and you'll hear his update on all of his adventures on how he brings such love and caring to his innovative work including bringing a new technologies to bring new audiences and new music together. You'll also hear this coming tuesday our next tidbit tuesday our personal last week. So please stay tuned for not just these wonderful thursday sessions but drops on tuesdays. Where's your journey taken you now before we backup history. What is the current david hernandez. And i am a very happy person. Happier than ever been before. I'm very healed from a lot of things from the past from growing up my childhood and past generations and i don't think ever been an as happy as i am right now. I'm i think. I'm like in the the prime of my life is barely starting and i'm just so so so content so happy so excited i'm in the zone. I feel so the moment like all day long like i feel so grateful. Just a norm ass- overwhelming sense of gratitude. And love for the moment. You know just the sun coming on the sun's coming up. It's like a childlike excitement and curiosity and a piece of that curiosity and childlike emotion. I'm learning from my daughter's My daughter delta And i'm just. I just look at her and she just you know it's excited. And so over the the moment and the smallest little thing. And i realize wow you know that. Curiosity and that That optic in life. That's what i think a lot of miss going through the motions of daily life and being an adult. And i think gone back there. I think i got on there now. And i'm so like excited about the little things. I'm so curious more than i've ever been and it's like the childlike in. So that's why i'm right now. I'm like happier than ever and professionally doing better than ever before. And i feel like we're just getting started and everything that we're doing and we got some really cool things going on. Am betting on the future. You know we're betting one hundred percent on a year. We cannot predict the future but we can sort of gauge it with the present things right now and kind of guests and we're betting for the future and also pretty much the only competition out there is our own cells it's me and professionally is our selves. So that's really where. I'm out and happier happier just so happy. I'm just so happy. And that's why i'm so glad to hear that i. I think it helps to in some ways. Have your own business because you can set the terms of that happiness a little bit. We can talk about that. I mean i feel oddly similar in some ways. Because i'm in the same house that my kids grew up in where i spent a lot of time back when they were little Being you know the the sense of time being different though. I was working but i was still extensively embodied here at home and i feel it really interesting sense of a personal echo for being able to work in the same space even though they're in different cities now so it's to me. It's kind of an odd sense of time travel But you've been able to kind of build in in a community a business that connects communities and people. Can you talk a bit about what you've built That is helping thrive right now. Yeah so So built this Multiplatform network Quote unquote aggregate her music. Educator and i started with a passion which is music that i love which is mexican music i am. I was born and raised in at under scully's mexico My parents brought me to this. Incredible amazing country when i was nine years old and I've been here for about twenty twenty one years now and so i started when i was fourteen. Fifteen you know marketing. You know promoting music affiliate marketing things like that and we went at fourteen. Yeah how does one do that at fourteen years old. I guess excitement for life and to get ahead and have a good life and curiosity. Where were you living. At that time we were living in a believe in citrus heights california like in southern california northern california in citrus heights. Oh sacramento okay. Yeah i was thinking citrus citrus searches and southern cal near sacramento by roosevelt. So i lived there. I went to high school there and then My senior year of high school zona but by the time we moved to arizona those were senior year and those in my space was at its height and i realized when i moved to that or high school that like people knew me to my space and i was like whoa. This is cool and a group of girls. Had my pictures under binders wait. I've never met you before. How do you get some pictures on your binders. And anyway we so your face was being. They're not just managing news or putting together things so it was like early. Why were you famous mexican music. I would dress like a because i really liked. The style of music called gainsay and also like north annual music like regional mexican music. So i would. I would post pictures of like with my. Because i play drums and with the band as well and i've been playing. Drums was a little boy. So i would post this pictures. And i guess people really like them and i would just like a cowboy like with a call we had in kabul cowboy outfits know and and yeah i guess really resonated to a lot of girls so i guess you know so. That's funny. I mean it's it's almost the opposite. Put your average kid changing high schools. Do it's like i. Nobody knows me here and instead you had girls who had your picture on their binders as your as your opening salvo with the new high. Yeah well because i okay. I'll tell you the actual story how there's this really cute girl right. I walked up to her to talk to her. And hey what's your name. Whatever and she kind of like looked like what the heck but they wanna look there. She kind of rejected me. But when look at her bind there and her friends binders. They'll have my pictures. I'm like wait that's me. It's just like you. I'm like yeah that's me like there's no way that's year. Yes that's me and but then i didn't care anymore. I just walked away. Walk to the library and i was like wow like what the heck all right and i just didn't care about them. We're all i cared about like before. But then even more i was seventeen. I think i was sixteen or seventeen at the time. And i just went one hundred percent focus on learning and business and sales and just like self development that just one hundred percent and i knew what i wanted to do. I think i kind of knew what i wanted to do. In my life. Early on like when i was fourteen fifteen. But you skip shaping and shaping getting more solidified and now now. This point are definitely know what i want to do with my life. But that's sort of what is where it started. And so i kept going. I stayed focused. You know what i do. Now begin develop back then into what it is today and now with created a suite of Technology like we we created some really cool technology with Mccur with collines media. That's anymore company and named it in honor of elon. Musk talking about colonizing marson colonizing space. I came up with name years ago by watching one of his interviews. One spacex was early on. I was like well. It's so cool and so That's what i need my company Many many years ago and So now colonize media is a multiplatform aggregated. We work with many genres of music. Focusing heavily on electronic dance music k pop country hip hop. Were really big into latin segment. Were i think one of the biggest independent like regional mexican and latin however we're making huge strides in europe eastern europe in asia. And it's just really fun. The journeys really really fun. And it's taken me to some places. I sort of envisioned but never kind of imagine would be so amazing and incredible people. Meeting is just. That's the funnest. The greatest part of all the people are meeting their just just amazing and So multi channel network it is. That's from my understanding. Generally historically been youtube channels. Is that the platform or is it beyond beyond youtube. So we've grown so you focus of our business. I learned how to use it early on and really manage it and grow it organically and but now it's more of a multiplatform network. We work directly with us. Services such as apple music youtube of course title etcetera etcetera and we aggregate the content there with rights management We work with incredible artists record labels. It's really fun. Working and developing this acts and called media has now become like a like an exclusive invitation or referral based only Business were we have the luxury of picking and choosing who wanna work with and then developing short mid and long-term plants for growth and artists and business development. So it's It's it's transformed into like a like i. I guess sort of like an actual label but a new new age label and then we also have really cool technology that we built in house such as Delivery like supply chains to deliver content And so on and so forth and And yeah it's really aside from that we've also built some other companies to service call into service other people who are not calling isis clients such as connie's publishing which we work with a publishers and songwriters and with minister the rights interactive space and abroad outside of the us We also have funding which we work with some funds and we invest in artists and record labels. We provide the intel The and we help with due diligence on rights et cetera et cetera and We'll also have you say cetera et cetera. Several times in what is a leading complicated question. So back up to that one where you get past et cetera. Et cetera investing. So it's your own money or you're facilitating folks. Who are because right now. The investment space in music has gotten really interesting. you're facilitating and evaluating and showcasing things or that you're actually have a fund that you're off Investing directly into artists and and other. Thank god both both of them Were investing your own money right. And then we're also working with other investors and being part of that Game that play. Whatever that is at the moment and we're bringing in Intel We're helping with due-diligence alongside attorneys accountants etc and Yeah just doing a lot of really fun stuff With with i mean to me. It's fun to the average person. I guess it would be something. Super complex and boring in like one of the world is but we love. We loved in this. So how many is we Our staff here at colonize. It's a over thirty amazing people and but but but that. But that's just one piece that just one piece of the puzzle. You might sound like it's so many things that we're doing but no it's actually all like three different pillars which is the content management Contact curate content promotion and the technology. We're buildings three pillars. And i oversee everything. It's a lot of it. Is my ideas on how to build and grow this and I have an incredible partner. Having we have incredible staff here and Sometimes when i come up with these ideas and wasted to this Some of them can roll their eyes on me like okay. Well let's try it and it's really fun when it actually works so well. How do you make a decision to head. A new direction. We've talked with that with other Small and mid sized business leaders How how do you know that you are comfortable enough to step in a new direction. And how do you know when to stop Well i think. I think we've been on the same sort of direction for a while. But now it's much more enhanced like now. It's like the things that we've been doing the past perfect for today's for the moment now but now. I think we're bigger were. We've got much more liquidity quality and we're bringing in incredible talent and we're building technology that allows us to things that we wanna do and but but but also i hope i can answer your question with us. A fears a few years ago and especially this year. I've been thinking what could be my competition right. Who would be my competitor. Who would be on isis competitor. So what. I've been set up to do pretty much. Create our own competition to compete against us. See your building. What you think will compete against you as part of your company. Yes yeah and. I think we've successful at a thing. We've successfully again the testing and it's working now we're on boarding beta continent artists and we're building it out. We're testing old is new ideas and oldest new things. And it's working of course by me saying it's working that means that we failed a lot before it works so we're breaking a lot of things we're having tons of failure investing investing time and effort but then we find things are work with tweak it and works and it keeps working in working work until we get to a point where we're at right now so And that and that entails of course the distribution the asset management but then again on the other hand created another company where we advertise. We use our technology that we built scripts and different things like that and also ai and were advertising and we are pushing content of very very high level We're breaking were breaking new artists that we've recently broken A few artists that have gone for example on spotify top fifty global and with their first song within three months. I song at the of course to be good. The artist has to be appealing to the audience And then we do our work. The artist also has to be part of it they need to post a lot of things very engaging and also the label needs to be part of the whole process but with all these new ideas and all these new processes were beginning to break brand new artists from nothing from the very first song and that is so much fun. Being able to that. So how do you connect with and discover the artist. You want to work with so you commented that your invitation only How do you find someone where you go. Oh my gosh the goodness this is Really great opportunity and a persona and talent. We want to work. With of course have to have talent they have to be an artist. But then again i and are the culture were building. Here is a very human culture. We wanna were building a culture of yes. Business comes first but we're human right and having said that we wanna work with artists that are moldable. That are happy that understand that. There's gonna be mistakes. Made understand that. Maybe not every song is going to be a hit and they're human as well that there people because many times you have people that you know when egos begin to get in the way that's when things begin to fall apart and we. We want to avoid that as much as possible. We want to work with people that think long term so it can build long-term and global business and i see every artist and every label as a business of its own and he has to stand on its own two feet and But we can start from scratch. But again i think it all starts with a personality with the artists personality and how they are and how genuine authentic they are and their community. They've already built. Someone's coming to you. They do. They need to already have fans who love them. Yeah i mean that's okay but rhino were. The new approaches. A were developing for breaking artists like thousand followers on instagram. and now they're like at sixty thousand followers on tiktok there like a few. You know a few hundred a few thousand likes other like three hundred thousand likes followers so we're building them from scratch and that was the thing that i wanted to do. We work with many major artists and also up and coming acts. But something that i set out to do like a challenge again. Who compete against me right so that was a personal challenge as well so i started looking to the what that would look like and start at just learning a lot of new things for getting everything i thought i knew and started from scratch. I sort of redeveloped myself. And i kind of pushed out across our business and across our staff and i'm still doing you know when we need to unlearn what we think we know because we're in a new age You know were having some incredible developments acknowledging incredible developments in in the liberation of consciousness of our species. So we need to like reinvent ourselves right now you know with all these super fast change so started doing that and Starting trying out new different things that we've never done before testing breaking things and now again we're breaking artists from nothing from the very first and that's what i wanna do. I wanted to develop an artist from nothing work with them and improve the we can do this because anybody or even us. We could say that started to following. They had hits already. Well we wanna prove we can do it with a brand new artist. We're doing so so you're working with labels you're not being the label you're being more of a An ad based technology partner overlay knowledgeable analysis because people don't tend to think of him stanzas technology platforms. They tend to think of them as add driven networks. And you're doing more than well. Let's do old model. I called it a two dozen model. So i think we modeled. We computer invented ourselves now. The mc is just one piece of the puzzle and we use that a lot. We work we. We love you to be to an incredible part of our business. However there's other audiences that don't use you to for contin consumption so much use other platforms and we're very well aware of that. And we give every plan from the due importance in needs based on the john rao and based on the audience. We're trying to reach so instead of being now. An mci were a multiplatform network however we have those connections but at the root and the heart of everything were a pure. Now were pure technology company with our At the heart of it. It's our our d. r. engines. Drive everything that delivered the content and then parallel to that we have An ad tech business that we built from scratch to serve as exclusively the music business right now. and in all john lewis. And of course we need the commitment from the artist and the label and we have all these tools this platform for them to build their business. That's really what we are. So you're a you're a tool set that's a enhanced. Ray i driven that helps. It's your more the that tool based Say a swiss army knife but almost the opposite customized growth engine for artists. Exactly what we are. So how does it fit in. So artificial intelligence has been a buzzword for a lot of folks in some companies. Say they're ai. But have twenty people in the background frantically doing things what is what is the Ai part of the secret sauce on the on the bidding part of things okay on the ads And we're building it and we keep learning with it and it gives learning and So far with testa we've done and the ad buying seen and a bunch of other things that were also doing but specifically on the buying it's working and again we're completely focused in music so it's a little different than advertisers have focused on products and so we're completely focused on music and conversions versus just discovery and views etc. So that's what we're using it for and In in more podcast ahead. I'll talk more about it right now. We're still using it. We're still testing it. It's working so far but there's a lot of things with one apply to it. There's a lot of things that were building. Well actually i should. I should correct that. When i say a lot of things is really not a lot of different. Things is the same different things but we were doing things with them. Internally and testing i can't do not to sound interest but no but it's good to be cryptic especially you're still flying the plane and building it at the same time But it's interesting because a lot of people have been getting investment saying. Oh we have a under the hood and then you talked to their competitors and go. No they don't have added. The there's literally are a couple of dozen people sitting in an office frantically doing things on the back end to make. It seem like that. But that doesn't provide you the intelligence for decision making for simply automating things so It there's so many people doing so many interesting things that would be probably conversation all by itself once you've got The lid down tighter on what you're doing. Yeah yeah latino again. We're in beta. We're testing a lot of it and it's working and it actually is a. I don't have on that part of the business. We don't have twenty people. It's only about four of us me included in this timeframe now where a lot of people were were taking a break building new creative assets investing in their communities. And i think when you and i talked earlier during these pandemic times and we're talking now in november twenty twenty. The i think you seeing this as a building time for the artists that you are working with and building reputations cetera while while waiting that it sounds like it's not been a waiting time for you in the artist you work with no we've actually accelerated to like with accelerated with this again. We're not unlearn ing and relearning a moment in our in our Company life and me personally as well in all aspects of life not just business but also personally reinventing myself as maybe reinventing myself would just getting the do who i am the true david wright but But yeah something interesting has happened. A lot of a lot of stable artists. i feel. They've got into depression mode. I think they're not coping with change very well so you have a lot of new young talent that the very hungry they're at home they're very creative and they're really really wanna do something with their lives. They really want to do something and they're they're they have a mentality of pretty much. Do whatever it takes mentality right And of course taking out mentality and putting it in a constructive and positive environment. A lot of good things could come out of that because at the end of the day everything's energy and the energy that's focused on on their careers on themselves can grow along in the right environment and the right Biosphere per se. You have a very democratized seen as well of a constant consumption where people are consuming the content. They actually buy to the actually connect with so. That's really good because you opportunity for a lot of new sounds a lot of new ideas. A lot of new talent to be discovered is there just have to have the right machinery behind it to push back up a little bit Have you worked for someone else or if you work for yourself. The whole. I've never worked for anybody. The only jobs i've ever had Played drums for my dad growing up her family mexican music band and i worked at a pop. I think i think we're oh. I worked at a taco in arizona. Graveyard while i was in high school. meiomi work. She was worried that i was in the computer all day. I'm just learning all this things right and then The other job. I had was with the texas rangers baseball team during spring training and surprise arizona. That was a lotta fun. That was when sammy sosa. was there. eric Chris wilson incan slur. I have actually. I have a really cool bat. Signed by him and Incas there at the time and that was really cool. Those are really cool experience. Actually but i think are the only jobs i've had ever and are your parents still around. And do they live in arizona california california. They're pretty young. So what do they think about what you're doing. I don't know if they fully grasp well that's everyone has that problem. Yeah i'd ask people so what do you. What do you think you do. And they're going. I'm on the phone. They just know him on the phone or on the computer. So what do they think you do. I don't know what do your kids think you do. Oh my nine year old thinks when asked her what she wants to do their lives. She says she wants to own a company. A traveler and explorer. Like me and that she wants to go to the jungle. Because i go to the jungle but once a year except for this go to peru to amazon supervising and I travel a lot for development purposes and meeting people and you know sitting down with artists and labels worldwide. I mean not right now but eventually we'll pre pandemic how much of the time where you trial about two three weeks of the month and all over that all over the world I mean mexico a lot. Mexico became like a routine. I leave at night alive arriving in or mexico ceded like six. Am i'll be back home by be a leave from the seven pm flights same day be back home by eleven or twelve sunday and then now you are running your small empire from a fairly small city in california is a beautiful city called turlock california turlock. And why are you in turlock a fate. I think okay yeah. Ah you're managing whole team from central. Yes and this is where my business partner. And he's incredible man. I i meet a lot of people all over the world but the more get to know this guy Is open doors box. He's i think the smartest person i know he is like just just incredible person and i'm really blessed to have met him with. It's almost going to be ten years. We met and and then the other reason i actually a physical reason why actually ended up here as well is because of the internet in the town next town that i live from here that currently recite at i moved there because at the time there was fast internet there and i need it fast internet. There was no fest internationally. No fast internet in other cities so just ended up moving there and also the cost of living super low so some people create companies to sell in flip. Them are serial preneurs. Some people are inspired to fix something. And that's why they start a company use to be inspired to create something that keeps morphing and changing. Is this meant to be your life's dream that you'll continue to build out within your company structure all the things that you see need to be done in her passionate about or do you see this. I mean you're a thirty one year old. A high energy intensive entrepreneur. I mean do you anticipate you know flipping into another phase at some point in time. I don't know but like this is an expression of me. You know like what and building right. Now it's what i have in me just like putting it out there and crystallizing into physical form. It's like my brain just being just being like ideas being brought out of my brain downloading them into the physical world and making them happen. So it's like it's really like businesswise sets a business. And i think my whole lifestyle revolves around this everything i do but i didn't. I never had any intention of building something in selling it. That was never my intention. I had the intention was to build. Something grow it and have tons of fun and i am and also making an impact And also talking a little bit about money. You know Money's the and Money's the like is the final. kpi the olympic. That tells us that we're doing something right. That's how i see it. And but money's not like the be all thing that's really doesn't impress me or anything or possessions only impress me and the only thing that impresses me about that. Kpi's that that tells us tells me that the market is reacting to what we're doing and we're proving it to be right so having said that it's a building this to begin. I'd undiscovered maybe one day somebody comes in and wants to buy what we're building but i feel like i'm barely getting started. I feel like. I'm finally barely getting started and oldest past ten years. I've just been learning and preparation and learning from mistakes and learning from assertions and And yeah just a reflection of of ym and wom- developing in this planet. There's Now hang a brain fade as to what the put it in the show notes as to. What the book is. But there is a book that asked the question How do you. How do you know you're being successful. What is the metric when you suddenly. I am successful and it's interesting because one of my mentors asked me that. Gosh ten years ago now But an kind of an interesting message. He'd retired and he goes i. Haven't you already been successful. Why don't you take your foot off the pedal and it's been an interesting vocabulary or conversation with my husband. And i we've been married for a few decades and we actually have really different visions as to. I know i'm successful when When are you. When did you know or when will you know that you are to yourself successful. I'm already successful. Beyond my wildest dreams. Everything else is gravy really I'm so happy to be alive. And so grateful to exist in this moment in time. And then because i feel like that i wanna create an impact. Wanted something with it and i want to. You know ensued energy through. Hopefully what. I'm doing right now and again. I don't discard the Abruptly changing one day. because i'm open to learning and open to change. And i welcome it. I embrace change. But i think i am extremely successful right now just due to the fact that i'm very healthy. I'm very very very happy. And i feel incredibly amazing. I feel in the zone. And i've and he just keeps an everyday just keeps getting better and better. Of course there's there's challenges a come across but that's like you know. I love tacos. I love mexican food and to me. The challenges are like super spicy. Hot sauce on tacos. It's like really spicy. But he's makes it much better. That's all i see challenges. That's how i visualize them. So it's a challenge comes on okay. It's a challenge first of all. Because it's information i didn't have is information we didn't have so all right. Here comes a new learning curve. That's how embrace it. And i welcome it a hug it. I bring it in. And i go around it and start a cracking at learning so then it's not a talented anymore. What's your biggest failure head a lot of failures My biggest failure was not giving myself credit so has been repeated that something that we all do at some point in time i guess sometimes it gets repeated but now give myself credit an also but more than that in the past not really not believing in myself. I think that's really been the biggest failure. I think i'll be businesswise. I would be much farther ahead. If many years ago. I believed in myself more but now I really do not believe. I don't think there's any limits especially with the changes in our economic system in the world and all this new technology being developed and evolving on this New space companies. That are going to be created in the next few years and ai and Implants biotech things. There's really no limit for any of us include myself. It's were really our own imitator at this point we've been talking for a while as well comington future on future a. I will make that a a return engagement to continue talking when you're ready to talk about your ai endeavors as we're near the end is anything we haven't talked about that you'd like to talk about yeah We're alongside everything that we're building. So we're building a product a platform for new artists and labels that we're going to be launching in twenty twenty one eh. It's also sort of invitation. Only sorta like diy service And we're building it in order to Not the artists or labels that we turn away so they can at least seven oppurtunity to use our technology and also use the services that we're going to be putting out to the public in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two. Someone wanted to connect with you on that or anything else we've talked about. How would you like them to reach out. And who would you like to reach out. Somebody wants to connect with me to send some signals. Now we're in california. That could be anything but yeah no so if anyone wants to connect with me Just reach out to me. I'm really open. i'm really open a love. Meeting new people My email is david h at colonize media dot com or. I'm very easy to find in social media or lengthen. I think music to find you know. We'll put those in the show nuts as well and somebody really wanna meet and actually i offer my friendship too. I want to really elon musk. I thought that's what was coming. I'm not sure. I can help you with that but if anybody else listens to this and would like to make the connection with elon. Musk then reach out as well. Thank you for joining us on this podcast. And i look forward to the rematch. Thank you have an awesome day and an incredible decade thanks. We'll there's the adventure. Hook you on this inspirational. If you are interested. 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Episode #1900 The New Phil Hendrie Show

The World of Phil Hendrie

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Episode #1900 The New Phil Hendrie Show

"You can't control what's outside your home but you can control what comes in. Because clorox disinfecting wipes kill ninety nine point nine percent of viruses and bacteria including covid nineteen virus when used erected on hard non porous surfaces. So whether it's from dirty doorknobs dirty shoes or something else outside. Germs won't stand a chance when it counts. Trust clorox kill pseudomonas salmonella and influenza virus type a to kill sars cova to unharmed non porous surfaces use as directed this holiday season. You know what i have on my wish list adventured. That's why i got a new honda during the happy honda days sales event they have a whole lineup of rugged all wheel drive. Suv's crv pilot passport. But at the end of the day. I drove off in a new. Hr v. with a bunch of safety features and best of all. I got it on clearance. So don't just sit around knitting and ugly holiday sweater. see your local honda dealer or happy. Honda days clearance pricing today. Hey folks. It's fill henry for the world famous phil and show backstage pass. General what do you mean general. You were going. Oh yes thank you fill. The backstage paths is your entree to the world of phil. Hendrie what is it. You don't wanna know you don't wanna no i'm kidding i'll do. Look the backstage passes. Your entree to the world of phil hendrie all kinds of characters all kinds of adventures all kinds of trips through time and space. What me yeah you go. Thanks for doing this. Clean you guys. Give us a chance to person. Henry so has forty thousand plus hours of some of the greatest material audio entertainment. Radio mind mon gazza you know yes it is a bind. I like that. it's a mind. Gasm get a backstage pass. Folks to the world famous phil hendrie show the greatest park and online other than porn a welcome sports fans to today's I'm quoting robert. Two robert duvall there in the great santini. Any welcome to today's show the world famous phil henry show. This is an encore show from december. The twenty third of two thousand sixteen. And then we'd go back to twenty sixteen was happening because things were there was a lot of trauma in my life. Then there was a lot of confusion in my life. There was a lot of near disaster in my life so that must have been making some for some pretty funny shows. Bob greene joins us today. The frazier foods grocer. He wants people to be able to look the bell. Ringer in the i. The salvation army santa claus and still not give him money but now he's not making any so. Bob needs to drum up some business vernon dosier cut his first wife gail dancing on their coffee table for a bunch of shriners great and hearing the country song. Walk on by brings it all back. This can't be anything but good folks here. It is from december. Twenty two thousand. Sixteen the world famous phil hendrie show encore show for today. I'm famous few every show. Yeah now pacifico southern california. This stand is corn. Yeah what does he do is he. Introduces us all barbara. Yes are you introduced. Aaron here's dickman. And what the hell are you doing. Here is robert leonard. Here's general jalen sean. How you doing. Here's pill henry how you doing. I'm doing rob margaret. What is what is he doing. Talk show or something so happen. So i can go and pot. Dan a frequent unleash. Come on one of my favorites freak on the what freak on a leash is corn corn. All right i don't this. This is the court handed. This is a kernel corn vulgar slop. I margrave kicking a show off with another insult. So what is that supposed to mean. I mean you're kicking the show with another insult. Demonstrate always like bagging on somebody. Well if i'm always quote bagging on someone it's become someone is bag abo- how about that. All i said. I was listening to the song i you said. It's a kernel of corn alright and everyone knows what that means and what it means basically as but you want me to say tournament turn around and blow a chain to take a look in a bull here a slob told me what hold on one of these days. I'm going to have the strength to pull you over here and beat your told me over there and do a come on. Welcome to our show. It's phil and show that was corn and that's freak on a leash and and i got a bunch of freaks unleash here. Thank you very much for that margaret. I guess we deserve it. Because we act like a pack of freaks at elite. We deserve it and on our program today. Thank you all who had joined us for our show yesterday. If you're back then you know. That's that's plus one. I guess We'll say you like the sodas. Today i did. I enjoyed the show yesterday. i've been very busy and i'm not exactly sure what's what day it is and where we are and where we're going we've got all kinds of we had a lot of business to take care of. We're gonna be on vacation next week. And so i haven't had a chance to listen to the show yesterday. Thought it was really good. You were talking to the pre show. And i think this needs to get out on the table every now and again you were talking about the old show the old phone call show and you were once again making excuses way. What do you mean making excuses. Well you're trying to make. It seem like that show. Wasn't that good. I'm gonna say this again so that everyone here's me. You're trying to tell the listener that that show struggled for ratings. You better believe it. That phone call show yes that old phone co. that phone call show. He did struggle when we were on on an la every marketed struggled for ratings. Except for miami which is kind of a party town anyway. Bayoumi is just all about funny. So you know that. That was the only market in los angeles where you made your name. You're telling me that radio ratings. I'm not saying it didn't have ratings. It struggled we really had to fight. And and it was rare when we really busted out and we struggled for sponsors and we struggled for for affiliates and so. I love that show. I wouldn't do anything different but don't ever make any mistake about thinking. Oh well you know that show is was weighing more successful. What you doing now. Phil what we're doing now. I like better the money that we make here is far more. I'll tell you it's it's way more substantial for the for the effort for the sweat than it was for. You know that well. That's a sort of a relative thing dan. You know what i'm talking about. And i'm not putting a down. I'm i'm happy that we did that. Show we haven't at our archives. You're welcome to experience with us with a backstage pass. Of course heroes. That's that's where you're making your money on that show. Yeah but i mean i had to go into is this what's called syndication but called dolan rerun essentially what you've done is you've done the radio version of going into reruns done well with the show that that we used to do it. It being on the website. Yeah we're making money with that show now than we did back then so it. That's the point that i'm trying to make and i loved the days that we spent in radio but don't ever sit there and tell me well not. Everybody claims their offense. Saying everybody was at woodstock or that. Everybody in about Well i shouldn't say you're gonna say everyone voted for trump. I have a feeling that about a year or two years. You won't be able to find anyone that voted for trump. I'll wait just a second. That's dirty pool people. Hey don't don't don't don't have to talk about that but you know it is you know so Having said all of that. That's why. I said what i said and so listening to show yesterday you enjoying enjoying it i liked. I'm not saying it was the greatest thing we ever did. But i just like all right so listen on our program today. The club green is going to be with us and this is something he's talked about before they have that bell ringing sent out there in front of frazier foods. What does that a lot of Salvage that's the one that's in front of thorough grains. I think it's just a local to local santa claus per person charity local. Santa claus portraiture the ones that ring the bell traditional bell. Ringers are the salvation. Army and the women put about greens. It's called santa. claus is coming to town. What do you mean said. Oh man i wanna hurt this kid. Hey wait wait. That's tough santa. claus is coming to town. That's the name of the charity. Yeah the santa claus gonna turn charity for poor people and get santa claus goes out in front. Does a bell ring ripping up the salvation army. Who says that salvation army gets to own net. Let me tell you something. I can tell you right now. Break it up. Break it up. Now wait a minute man. This is called. Santa claus is coming to town. Yes for the nine hundred fifty eight nine. Yes oh my god. He's going nuts ticket. He's not telling you all right fine and the guy rings a bell. Yeah well traditional bell ringer buddy soviet army. So you've been telling me that next. What a smart ass. They'd let me. I'm just telling you guys. i'm you know anymore. These fisticuffs and i'm going to be the last guy throwing a punch here. When i throw one lights. Go out on broadway baby. So you're putting your own coma. Yes all right thank you. I'm only kidding. But all right so Bogged vernon dosier and was teaching a media. Class bill maher academy in addition to the you know the history class diseases and ben vernice as well. The football coach. They're teaching a media class and they were evolving this media. It started the adult nature of media. Then they moved onto obscenity. The history of obscenity and profanity in media and now it has got a little personal. According to what. I've been hearing talk to larry hunt. Who's one of the assistant coaches over there. Who had it a confrontation with vernon who's renamed. The class dow filth in media. Haven't i have no idea. We're gonna find out here on the world famous phil hendrie show When we continue here but first traffic and of course boy and sky baby bump up right. Now we're going to have people out because you got outbound this morning and the counselor. I've got go right up your penis bunch and bobby and moving along very rapidly very nicely. Get out there. I lane five chapter. Went up there on the split up a to get up there and get a little who you know that guy boy among downtown removing a little pinball machine on scott other guy nine eight bobby is giving helicopter flying lessons out of bob. Bakish is nine pounds of swing. Meet airfield in turlock. California bob biggins. Nine pounds of swinging airfield will teach you how to be a helicopter pilot and five easy lessons. There's only five things you have to remember how to make a takeoff how to fly it how to make it land to make the propellers stop to get out of it without getting your head cut off on how to get back in. That's bob makings copter. Pilot school and it's up there. Bob victims nine pounds of swing. Meet airfield turlock california only country one hundred and fifty five dollars per minute. That's one hundred fifty five dollars per hour at one hundred and fifty five dollars per day. Barbadians helicopter school. Up there. At bobby beacons pounds swing. I can't remember. I don't remember. I bought big band. You love it too as you come out to bob big pop up by chapter. Let the nine pounds of swing and be in turlock california famous phil hendrie show from the go here in southern california on this friday and don't forget coming up. Tonight is the chat. It'll be the world famous film to show chat with our bsp's and of course it begins at nine o'clock pacific time and we certainly do hope that we will let people know better chance on friday nights of your brand new. Bsp make sure you join us for our friday night chat. That's me and all of the backstage pass folks who gathered by the way we got that picture from bench. See that yeah. We got a picture from penn and dubai. now if you didn't see it over their entire website Bama was a happy hour dubai now the fit the guy in dubai. What everybody to go over there and get drunk. Oh man one everyone to go over there and get drunk. He's was taking him up on the possibility of some kind of a p tour. I mean. I don't know the feasibility of it. But we did get a picture of ben from dubai. And there's very was. I think ben's of central point is yes. I'm into buy yes. It's the middle east. Yes all of that. And more and yet here i am having a beer and it's okay now i won't last one within and you can eat pork here. That's what that's what. I heard him say are select areas where there's pork eating. Yes but i wouldn't go so far as the sorry. The places you know pork chop heaven or something. No of course. It isn't as the general said. There are select. Locales pork locales. I don't know how to say. Let's just say that there's places for westerners to yes that's exactly places for westerners to go into slapdown down. Whatever it is that they they want to slap down. Thank you very much for that picture. Ben i was cool man and you know by the way we invite anybody from wherever you are listening to our podcast to broadcast to our what we like to call this a net cast. You know we don't believe in. The podcast is for non professionals. The real clowns you know her. There's no reason why we try to put them down. What would i put you down if you do. A podcast god. Bless you and we wish you all the success of the world. We don't do a podcast. We're professionals here. This is a net cast. We make money. No no no no no no. We make money all right. All right margaret looks not lorded over people who want to make that very clear. Because i've been getting some snooty comments in the supermarket. forget it. You know that. Mary josh you know. Her husband is He's a big record producer. And what's feel henry. Doing now is it. Oh the podcast i said. Let me tell you something slim. And i grabbed him by his bowtie. Wears that jerry used a soupy sales bowl. Tie the guy that the record poops that lived next door to you. Yes yes and he says what. What's the by said. Let me tell you something. Slender grabbed the the bowtie twisted a little bit. So i knew it would cut his win and i pulled him about this for for my nose you would you like to late some money on it at least money do want to clam up all right so i told him about this far from my nose and i said what did you say. And he said this is what he said philly goes. I said you'd make. I said you disgust me. Dropped him to the floor. Yes if you question me one. More time. I'm going to put my fingers through your skull. Mother come on all right. So great so margaret threatens some cat that used to be a friend of the show. That's great oh phil. He never liked you. Great welcome back. Here are the friday show. Next week is vacation time baby but that doesn't mean that we will see separation. You will hear some of the fantabulous shows from this year. We will select for you most of them coming from the very beginning stages of two thousand sixteen. We're also going to be checking in from wherever we are with some facebook lives. Also with some periscope. So we're not going far away from you guys. As far as the bsp's go we will continue to communicate with you guys via our comment section and as we move through this this coming year. We're working on premium. Events exclusively live premium events remote for esp's from various spots in the surrounding areas. All right check out now. We got on the line with us. bob green from frazier foods and it is of course the holiday season bob. I know that you've got. Everybody was arguing out front here. I shouldn't say out front. Seemed like they were out front and was arguing at the beginning of this segment about your. What is it called. Santa claus is coming to town. We'll have this is a charity pill. We haven't santa claus out predator the star. You're a waiter park. He's part of the. Santa claus is coming to count coming to account. What does it hold on a minute. Santa claus is coming to town. I used to say santa clauses is having account and no one thought that was funny. And they're wonder i don't fire people given the power that i have as the ceo of this company. And i operate out of the store. A good thing that you don't pump that would just give the we're talking about how charitable towards your employees not is correct. I am but cup. Santa claus is coming to town. So what was the issue. Because i know that You call this guy a bell ringer. You've never been a very big fan of charities around christmastime. I'm not a big fan of charities around christmas time. Because i don't think that they are. You know it's not an honest pitch phil when you're going after people at christmas and you're asking them for their money you're basically you're getting them at a disadvantage because these people have just they come back from christmas shopping. They've come back from You know doing for the family now. You know by the way and we got a lot of people sick people. These are people that don't have any money. These people that are down you know down on their luck and we want you to give them money and being ding ding ringing a bell in your face. You're walking into their store. And most of the people and i do watch them are hiding their their. You know their gaze from the guy from the santa claus guy that they have and i find it to be imposing. I think it a little unfair. Psychologically you've allowed this guy stand up there though. This santa claus is coming to town. Well i let these guys come out here because it spent the salvation army style. They should army. I you know fairly is one of the more prominent charities from around the world and they are well known. It's very very difficult to tell us. Salvation army what to do because they've got a lot of juice. Put it as a esa sickly as i can't cut of who i didn't say who i said they got a lot of juice juice. J. c. e. o. They said i. I'm not gonna go there with. He just saying they got a lot of juice. So they have a lot of pull and and this affects how you do business well first of all because they are as powerful as they are much. You let them in the door. And you let the bell ringers from the salvation army on premises. They're gonna get basically run your store and they're going to tell you what gets done how. Who does it in the win. When you get up in the morning when you go to sleep at night wait wait. What are you talking about being the salvation. Army running the operation of your store your life. I'm telling you fell you. Gotta you have to surround your entire life has to be around the salvation army because once they're there on the premises. You wanna be there to all right and the reason i like to be there is i want to see. I mean i'll be very honest with you. I want to see how much money people coming in the store. all right. so that's the whole reason. You want to see how much money they give it a salvation army and there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that at all. What is the point. Bob if you are. You afraid that the salvation army's being intimidating or you just want to know how much money the customers have. I want to know how much the customize have as well as as well as all right so. We're getting to it as well as i don't want them to be intimidated by the spider salvation army. But that's the whole thing. I don't let the salvation army out there anymore. Okay i only let santa claus is coming to town there now. has well. Why do you let them out there. on a lot and not the salvation army and salvation army was showing you how much money people had. But they stopped showing them how much money they had because they were getting intimidated. And so i decided to take that step further and say that santa claus is coming to town. Santa claus is going to be on our lot ring near bell. And as far as i'm concerned you should stare them right in the face and not not let them feel get that they've got the power. I don't feel it all right. Let's just back up here. We're talking with robert greene from frazier. Flip every year. He has this issue with the salvation army and now these santa claus is coming to town. Well it's the same kind of they got a guy out there. Ringing a bell. Salvation army had a lot of people donating money to them. You could tell they were pulling the money out of their pocket. And i knew how much money people had gone out of the story but they begin to get intimidated and they began to avert their gaze from the salvation. Army bell ringer. And now we're going into the store. And then i couldn't see how much money people have. That is really a bit of very. I would say this a little underhanded. Wait wait wait. I'm not saying that's the whole reason why i had them there. You know it sounds like it's like the salary is there. People are gonna pillow pull one out blue light out. I wanna cash. Little turtle deterred on a wing. I didn't know it but just listen a what they're going to pull a water cash out dickman here said was i figure they're they're pulling wanna cash out and then you can see how much money. But then they got intimidated staring into the eyes of the salvation army guy. You're saying no. They begin to avert their gaze from from santa claus. Bell reagan and so they didn't give any more money but more to the point they went showing how much money they had an pocket. So certainly should. I got disinterested in our lot. And i decided i need to bring on another santa claus cherry so we found one. Santa claus is coming to town. All right so the salvation army didn't wanna come to your parking lot in the and raise money and they just left gabby because they probably our budget cheap creeps. You know how do you know. They thought that. Because i called him up asked him. I said what what's the story. They didn't say that but they said you know there's not basically saying cheap creep and they the guy didn't want to say i doubt very seriously the salvation army's going to talk that way hold on. Bob greene is with us From frazier foods. We talk about this Christmas giving season. Alright so the salvation. Salvation army cleared out and along comes a charity that you found called santa claus is coming to town and you know you guys have been kicking around like it's low like these people are lowlifes. What i've really hurt. What is santa. Claus is coming to town. It sounds a little suspect. It's not suspect. It's a bona fide. The charity and they use the santa claus. any rings. the bell. The problem is i wasn't able to see how much money people were pulling out of their pockets because they were intimidated by the salvation army guy. So i started a program called. Look in the. I pull the money out waving under his nose and look in the. I now what that does is it. Gives people the courage to say you know what i work hard. I'm not a cheap bum. I donate money to charities. And i'm gonna look at santa claus right in the kisser and i'm going to say merry christmas. Yeah high and rings the bell as hugo by these ringing a bell. Ding ding ding. You'll look them in the eye and you say yeah good for you know you. Don't get the have my money today. What is the point of that. The point margaret is this that you don't feel guilty. You'll feel like you're a contributing member of society that you're a generous person and that you don't have to donate if you don't feel like it. Just some guys laying a guilt trip on you with the big. Moo cow is a ding ding ding and on top of that. It encourages people to pull the money out of their pockets. So you can see how much money they're walk into the store with. That's right fell at. I if i were you i wouldn't put it in such a way so as to indict me. I'm trying to let people feel you know. Let julie not guilty exactly about having that money out of the parking lot area. And i was talking to the santa claus. They're from san francisco down and he's ringing a balance other people walking by and looking at them and got. Hey how you doing. No no no no money for you today How you doing hi. No you don't get any and they have the water cash in hand waving it right under his nose going. You don't get on. what is the point of. This is like humiliating the guide. It's it's giving people the courage to say no and it also gives them the courage to pull that out so you can see how much money they've got at right. I would say that we have been successful in this in to this to this extent i know people coming into the store on loaded. Unfortunately they're not giving any to. The santa claus is coming to town guy. And so we're having to kind of You know alleviate that a little bit. So we're seeing the checking out saying look. I i saw you come in and get into wanna give any money of the santa claus is coming to town guy. I'd appreciate if you give them a little bit of money. Because i know we encourage you not add a few people say to me. Weren't you to win. Saying sterban the eye and say no. You don't get any and i said yes but i said now that i know and they'd say oh so you wanna see the what we had and i had one guy. Apparently they could. He was funny. You wanna see by one. And i said no. I don't because i know exactly what you're talking about look it. I don't want to hear these stories. You guys going so you know. I'm gonna go out here a little bit later on a trying to drum up some business. I think that i was talking to the guy that here from santa claus is coming to town is guiding ruby porter and ruby was a homeless guy prolong penalty johnny ringing a bell and i want to go out and saying of the christmas song here in just a moment if you'll join me Love for free audience to hear it. So you're going to sing. Yes i'm gonna sing it. Well we're there. We're very much looking forward to that. By bob grains gonna sing for us here in just a moment and should be nice. The christmas song christmas It'll be done to the best of my ability. And i don't know if i know all the lyrics you can use the margaret grey improvisational technique bob. I was picking doing that. Even i'm not really familiar with that. We're gonna join. Bob green to sing christmas here in just a moment. The world famous pill ratio full verse would have been too expensive to old every single lead. Airbnb third robert frasure on the highways and byways parking lot actually there at frazier foods and we're gonna listen to the christmas. Oh go ahead bob alright. I don't expect A guy from santa claus is coming to town. Want me to sing the song. And i appreciate if he will open up your bills if you could just stop what you're doing for second. I'm sort of a the entrance way to serve you. Stop what you're doing for second chestnuts. Roasting on an open fire jack frost nipping at the nose. tiny tots with their is. Make it hard for you tonight. They know that santa's. I just got hit by a tomato. I have bob alright. I'm good whoever did that you know that reminds chest. that's roasting on your open. Fire jack nipping. What all my god. It's at santa claus guys flipping out. Hey bob you don't want to sing the song right right. You want to sing it right. Those not exactly the lyrics coming from the lady who made up the improvisational lyric. Get a lot of you. I know that but chest chestnuts. Roasting on an open fire jack frost nipping at your nose. Tiny tots with their eyes. On glow will find it hard to sleep tonight. They know that santa's on his way. Yeah shit i got hit with a ball. Bearing back yeah. It was a bag of ball. Bearing some kid ran by i. You know. I'm trying to raise money for the santa claus. Here you gonna wanna do. I know i said not to baba it's dangerous for you know this is my store my store. Anybody wanna try anybody wanna to step up to the plate. I don't know if this is another way to do it. I'll to be cut from tation. These people well. I'm being confrontational third. Step back and say get covered. Steady had some of those barbecue briquet banks. I'm not standing behind any bags. Air we go chesnut. Th roasting on an open get into without now fill jack frost nipping at your nose. Tiny tots with their eyes. All aglow. we'll find it hard to sleep tonight. Know that sends on his way he. He's building lots of toys and cookies on his tray. And every mother's son is gonna smile when he sees that reindeer's really know how to fly. Oh yeah down the street get him get him what's going on. I've been a foot pursuit pursuit. We're going down going beach boulevard. Now i'm gonna put pursuit beach boulevard. Kid kid with ball bearing got. I got some of my guys that with me right. Now come on the police involved. Okay we pursue this kid punk kid pumpkin on beach radio or something. I don't i just have the phone. I'm telling you guys can't you. Lay this listening right there. The can you dirty little come on and that's what this is very serious to come on. We got got him. What in custody on a little nuts that what was that the kid what did you catch an else think it's funny. Don't you hit me in the ball. Hey what he went pecker. What an asshole is phil. What happened was give us what we just heard what it says. You got assaulted and took off running after the kid. That's exactly right. We hitting a ball bag. Excuse me percent got him. We did well winded. I got hit with his a sack full of ball bearings and a kid took off running. We went down beach boulevard. We nabbed him right down here at the beach and hemlock so Bonaparte is here right now so as well that ends well phil. All's well ends well Trying to raise money for the Trying to raise money for this christmas charity. Easy for you to say man. We raise the money for christmas jedi. Really which one is it failed. He's sitting there. Tongue-tied that santa claus is coming to town. And it's getting the ball right there. When shut him up. Just i just took some unripe. Bananas nailed him. I felt this. Is bob greene reporting bob. I haven't hung up on you yet. Just take unripe bananas and nail bob. We haven't hung up. We wanna keep talking to you for second all right. Nah i i don't hang up on him wait a second. Hey bob either. The unripe and bananas you take a jar goes walnuts and all right. Robert greene from frazier foods on the world. Famous fill every show Somehow getting people to not feel guilty about the santa claus ringing the bell but by the same token pull the money out and wave at under his nose. So bob knows how much you got on you as you come into his store. One ever thought of a good concept speaking. You're right back. World-famous phil emery show surplus. Daddy it's beginning to look a lot like christmas isn't it. And what does christmas look like. Well it looks like a big smiling. Bearded man big jolly red cheeks. A big red nose and big blazing red eyes. That's what santa claus looks like. But for many of you making the bills this year won't be fun. Make christmas happy again. Make christmas look exactly the way. Christmas is supposed to look the big red nose the big red cheeks. The big bloodshot lured out. Big ass is and go to timmy. Whispers loans chemi will lend you fifty one hundred one hundred fifty one seventy five. What do you need. What do you want to hundred enough. Ooh a more two fifty. How 'bout three. Let's make it even five hundred and the vigorous i mean. The interest is very very fair. Timmy wismer is loans. It's beginning to look a lot like christmas with the big red cheeks. The big bald out nose and the big bloodshot rat asked is. It's beginning to look a lot like chris. Moves at tenny. wismer loans. Timmy wismer loans. Vigorous i mean the interest. Reasonable great Christmas music have very very festive. Well maybe the end the show or something with some christmas using how we have with coach vernon danger. You laughing phil. I just thought it was funny that we didn't have any christmas music. And you disappointed and you'll find that funny. I'll give it a rest while you're margaret. Just having some fun. I'll give it a rest. What are they. Just get up and leave margaret. Don't take some serious hills. Having a couple of laughs. Laugh at yourself left to sell all all right all laugh at myself. There weren't hold up a mirror. Your smart ass. I got vernon vernon it's phil hendrie. it's great to have you with us. How are things at school. They're getting ready for christmas. Right said it's beginning to look a lot of that. Commercial began a lot like christmas. So you're teaching. Even though this is not really a christmas topping only you guys are breaking for the semester as well you teaching What is it called. It's called adult media. Don't seem to media was the original title of it and this was a highly personal issue. Feel i hope you'll understand that bringing this to your show is a delicate nature because it involves very private issue between myself and members of my family and coach. Larry hood is our weight coach on our football team and also knows the intimate details of an episode of my life and ordinarily i would not bring this to the media but it is such a painful nature and one that i said. Coach hunt decided to bring to the attention of our football team in our school. And i am still. He's still in my employed. By the way i haven't fired him. This is serious. Oh yeah oh yeah We taught a class. I taught a class called adult nature of media and we evolved into obscenity and media teaching the young pt in our class communication students. How content and how The maure society has evolved and how that's affected various content and media whether it's television programs film content radio etcetera And then one day. I was walking through. Our jim. And larry was looking at me. He was sitting on the bench and sorta head. His head tilted. Looking at me around the corner one of the pillars and was playing the song on by. That's when all bets are off. That's when i went in and tendered my resignation to the school. Hold that about. what is this about. What do you mean. You tendered resignation. I thought you people know the story. What does this say. He was playing what song he was playing. Walk on by. I'm not familiar with that. You're not so all right. Maybe i if. I need to back up all up. I don't think any of us are familiar with the story. You're not familiar with it. All right well. Larry larry is my assistant. He's he's awake coach on our football team and he was with me that night. You don't know what do you do. You guys give any punches. Shut up if if that kid so much as open the app and says something dirty to me. no bud. sorry so what happened. What happened. Larry was with me that night. My first wife gail who has passed on. God rest her soul. She was a party girl. There's no question about it. She loved her liquor and she loved her good times and occasionally those good times. Got out of hand and We came in one night. Larry was with me at i walk in and there was gail dancing on the coffee table. For a group of men in shriner's hats that apparently had met her at the restaurant she was working at and she invited them up for drinks and and a dance or something I don't know what went on. But i walked in. All i saw. Were schreiner hats and my wife gets on the coffee table. And that's what i said. Okay i got it filed for divorce you file for divorce because of that. Well i i was going to it that i didn't but at that moment but as we were driving back to the jim that night then on came to song walk on by by that You know the country singer. Larry hope grass or whatever the hell his name is was Oh yeah lenny dyke earlier leni daikin leroy van dyke. Which isn't what do you mean which is it so so all right so what. I don't understand you don't understand. As i was walking to the gym. He was playing it again and that was just last week. So larry hunt. Yeah larry hunt. This was a seven-year-old episode. And he's playing. 'cause i guess guess you said look what i just heard on the radio and he went ahead and picked it up on his ipod and he's playing at blasted through the school telling everybody what happened. As far as i'm concerned what do you mean. How's is that telling everybody what happened. Everyone knows thought we knew and we didn't well. I mean come on you know. Nobody knows i'm just telling you he's playing this thing. Let me play it for you. Got it right here. You know this song that. I'm talking about this song. Walk on by what it is. I mean it's about a guy that is fooling around and his wife. Yeah he's fooling around his wife and it reminds me of my wife standing on a table. Top dan for this show. As soon as i heard this. I walked directly into a classroom and said we're change the name to see here this guy's street in like every one of those shriners saying so. What are you trying to tell me that this reminds you of a bunch of shriners to there. Were paying your wife to dance. Yes yes yes. That's what i'm saying why you walked into that class and changing the filth in media what it's called alphabet bet. Yeah that's the part. That i hate that wauconda on the corner. I love to be high on that corner. I know it's very painful. And we turn that down so we can turn it down. I'm in charge. Coach doors are told me to play. I it down before. I flip my lid. I just wanted to get the play for you. So you know the full impact of what went on. I know the full impact of what went on. And i know all about your ex wife. Gail and god rest his soul. You were there for her. At the end. I tried to be and now you're happily married. So what's the story. It's a painful memory okay. I walked in on gail. Was she actually involved with these guys. That's what i was gonna ask you what she was. She compromised in any way. What does that mean compromise. What she having sex with any of these guys no no. He wasn't how dare that was my wife. Then what are you talking about. She's canceled for some trainers fire. Friends the corner right. What did you do what did i do. I saved him from himself. All right i saved that guy from further embarrassment by hanging up on his ass so he doesn't continue to make an ass of himself closing out this is. We used to close out our show before christmas time. With all the time. I love this otis. Redding merry christmas baby s otis redding famous phil emery show about very very merry merry. Merry christmas famous fill in ratio executive produced by phil hendrie man. All rights reserved on podcast. One i love this song to do down past three zero. A shoot is. You can't control what's outside your home but you can control what comes in. Because clorox disinfecting wipes kill ninety nine point nine percent of viruses and bacteria including cova nineteen virus when used as directed on hard nonporous surfaces. So whether it's from dirty doorknobs dirty shoes or something else outside. Germs won't stand a chance when it counts. Trust clorox kill pseudomonas. Salmonella and influenza virus type to kill sars kobe to an hard non. Porous surfaces uses directed this holiday season. You wanna have on my wishlist adventure. That's why i got a new honda during the happy honda days sales event they have a whole lineup of rugged all wheel drive. Suv's crv pilot passport. 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Mexico Money Machine - 5

Locked Up Abroad

39:52 min | 10 months ago

Mexico Money Machine - 5

"The We're going down in Mexico and we were buying these counterfeit money. We're crossing over the border and we had all the stuff packed in spare tire. I was thinking to myself. Start acting, weird. I was not about to get caught they're. Not. Mexico. This. Wasn't part of the plan. From one. DRI exclusively on luminary this is locked up abroad I'm your host Jim Clemente. In Mexico Money Machine Jeremy Keanu. Is at a crossroads in his life. Growing up in Turlock California equipped school fifteen to work for his father. But when his girlfriend leaves him out of the blue, he channels his anger and grief into working out at the gym where's introduced to the world of steroids, which is friends smuggles over the border from Mexico and they purchased the drugs with counterfeit money that they make themselves Jeremy Keanu pushes his luck one too many times. 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HOPE DOT com slash locked up that's better H E L P dot com slash locked up and join the over one million people taking charge of their mental health with the help of an experienced professional as a listener of our show you can get ten percent off your first month at better help dot com slash locked up again that's better health dot com slash locked up for ten percent off your first month. By grew up in Turlock California. I was raised by my dad, my step mom and had a pretty good upbringing. When I was fifteen, I quit going to high school and I started work for my dad fulltime. My Dad was a very hard worker and corrupt off on me. And I was twenty years old my girlfriend moved in. And we add a child. Everything was great. But. Things Mousetrap between us. And we went our separate ways. Via crush me. I kind of heartbroken. I saw my daughter whenever I could. At the time I was trying remove what had happened in my head. And by really got into lifting weights. Pretty much the only thing I could take migrations out on. We worked out six days a week that took my mind off of a lot of things. He kept my mind busy a friend of mine from high school. I'm saying the sky for awhile back. Kind of big and I was wondering what's going on here and so I got to talk with him and he's like, yeah, you know I do steroids and stuff like that. I was actually Kinda surprised when I heard that I was like really. I was kind of interested in wanting to know more about it. I can hook you. The whole point of us, lifting weights and stuff was to get bigger to feel better about ourselves. Better for women. They came in a bottle. Twenty milliliter bottle. Liquid. Rubber top. It is put the needle through in you wholesome out into the French. and. That's how you use it. We would inject ourselves in our hip. Sometimes, we checked in our arms. was just a fast way to get really big. A. Few weeks after I'd actually bought some steroids I asked him. So where do you get this? Promo Well, we get it from Mexico we get it from the pharmacy's. Hiding minutes spare tire. We drive back over the border takes US twenty, two hours roundtrip. Yeah, WE'RE GONNA. Go down there and a couple of weeks we're GONNA go get some stuff and we're going to bring it back if you want. I think we have room for another person's. Sounded Fun to me. It sounded like somebody. Mind off things. Come back. Sure. Sounds like fun. Cool. The only problem was I was a little tight for money. My work is slow down a little bit. Hey Hey, to. One of the guys came our mouse and he was like I'm GonNa show you something and he pulled out despite all her door. I started looking at it no Mike and. I made this last night. Dude. That's not a real five dollars. No. Is a counterfeit. Is Brilliant for some reason. I kind of laugh I thought it was funny. Come on in he showed me a big role of old cash register paper. You mark this stuff with counterfeit pen and it turns real. And? I'm thinking to myself. It's amazing. We'd set everything up my kitchen. It just happened really fast. You throw in some hundred dollar bills into the scanner. Piece of paper through the printer. Trying to paper round print out the back side of it. So that way when we tape the paper or the template. We knew exactly. We're. Going to print out at. What gave it that feeling of actual bill was the hairspray. Spread over the bill and we have throw inside the drier. With some socks bundled up and let it run through their. Roughing him up a little bit and make him not so perfect. They felt and they looked so real. I kind of felt like a little charged come out of it. I was thinking to myself man, this is kind of genius you know. The only way of telling the difference between those bills if if you held them up in the air and you look for Hologram. Or that bar that runs through that bill. Go Down to Mexico and I might will how do they know? I'm having, problem. and. Next thing you know we all jumped into the car and we headed down to Mexico. I taken. Fifteen hundred dollars of the counterfeit money. I was going with a group of guys and they've been doing it for years. I've been to Nevada. That was about it. So my first time actually going down to the states. I never thought about getting caught. I never thought about the consequences of what I was doing. I was going on right. We drove into Tijuana was about like nine ten o'clock in the morning. Down in Mexico you buy whatever you want. It was against the law to buy medication. But they don't ask you for prescription. The pharmacy that we went to just had a kind of a sterile typist smell to it. Both the girls that there they were in their twenties. They all seem to be professional. Was I wanNA get some stuff here? Said Oh yes. Can you get us three hundred and fifty bottles? So the lady was like, yeah, we can get that for you. Celebrate back. and. She walked out of the pharmacy. Five ten minutes later she came walking back in there and she had two buckets to beyond buckets. She was like Oh. Here we go. All their role how much you know per bottle she was like twenty dollars ball. Going, to be so. And so everyone had pulled out money. It to her. I paid for the fake ones. Houston there counting it. And I was seeing to myself I was a little bit nervous. She goes. Okay. Well, thank you. Stoyan. and. She put the money in the cash register and I was like, wow. I got away with it. I was like Oh my God I can't believe this. I kind of got a little high off of it. Everyone was like, wow, you know. That's a trip. At, his spinning a bunch of counterfeit money in there. And we walked out. Can you believe that? I did think to myself. You know what? That was too easy. We went and got some foil. And some asking date. We're talking up all of our stuff it all up rapping masking tape on it, and they market our names on it. There is a lot of stuff in the car. I knew it was illegal. So I was a little bit nervous about how much we were bringing back. I kind of thought to myself man is all this stuff gonNA fit inside that spare tire. And I turn around and there is a cop there on a motorcycle. I was in disbelief. I was like. Is this really happening? I was starting to break a sweat. He was pulling up and. I kind of look back into the car and I was like guys cop behind us. A COP playing up right now. It's everyone started they were doing and put themselves over what they were wrapping up, push them out of the way a little bit. And he got off his motorcycle. And he came walking up to the vehicle. In. Looked down a little bit. I was thinking to myself man don't get nervous here. Don't start acting weird or shake or anything like that. Be. Calm. I was not going to get caught like this. I had a carton of cigarettes laying right there in the front seat. I was grabbed a carton of cigarettes and I say Hey. Do, you want a carton of cigarettes. Kind of looked at me kind of finding. By sit here you know take it. The. Guy. Who spoke Spanish walking around the car. You go to this office. He'd said him you know in Spanish he wants to know if you want a carton of cigarettes. Tom I, don't smoke. The just turned around and got back on his bike and he loved. The guys were like, wow. I can't believe that we actually got away with that. They were like well, good job. Golden I just couldn't believe that everything was working out how it was supposed to work out. The. Head down to tire shop. They unscrew tire. And all the air out. And they took the optimum we started packing everything inside the tire. The tire back on their rent and they era net. We paid him fifty dollars and we were on our way. There's so many cars that lined up there the Tijuana border. We're sitting on our car, and there's some guy selling a blanket and another guy is trying to say some hat or something no that's that's no. It was my first time. So I didn't really know what happens when you crossover. There like you know what we're all pretty. Noticeable guys. We're to go that way. So a couple of any other car and we're going to walk over the border. No one told me. that. Anyone was going to jump out of the car and walk. Across the border. I was kind of like, why do I have to stay in the car? I thought maybe they're like Oh. You know he doesn't get nervous. He's good. He stays calm. That's why I was chosen to drive over the border. Just be cool man don't worry. We finally pulled up to the border. And you just pull up, guy comes walking out. He kind of looked in the back seat to the windowed season, the vehicle. As nervous inside about the whole situation. Obviously stay calm. Don't worry about it. News like. Bringing back and the guy was driving he was like You know we're just bringing back a robot hangover. You know that's that's about it. He started laughing. He's I guess that's that's what happens when you come down here in New Mexico. He just said okay guys. Gone over. As soon as we crossed that line everything felt normal. We're all excited. We were all ecstatic. We were high fiving each other. I just thought to myself. We've got away with it. We did what we had to do. We're here in the United States and we're Free Working out and seeing yourself get bigger and bigger and bigger. It was a high. It. Made me feel good. Got To be addictive. I wanted to do more. All the women in my life tell me the changing their hair color can change their whole day week or even month. 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That's Promo code locked up visit Madison Dash Re dot com now to find your perfect shade. Second time I went down there I printed about three thousand dollars. And everything just happened the same we drove down there. Walked in the pharmacy. We spent the money. Got Everything we needed. Me came back. He was pretty simple. Some other medications that we were buying down, there was synthetic morphine. People were using it to relieve the pain from tearing muscles when you're working out. They would pay a lot of money for it and well, if you have the money then sure I'll sell it to. I was just trying to make myself. Happy. I met this girl Stephanie Shoes Nice girl she was real finding be around. We had a good time. I was trying to make the best out of my life. I thought I was doing a good job. That I had all the morphine is Steph was all gone. So I needed to go get more. Guys that I normally went with no one really needed to go down there. So I was trying to figure out who is going to translate for me. Because I did not speak Spanish. My neighbor Mexican. Came over my house one day I was like, would you like to go down to Mexico with meal Tj? Maybe you could translate for me. and. He goes. We'll have you done this before. And I go. Oh Yeah. Sure is going to work and I go. Yeah. That's fine. He goes. All right. Because let's go then. Tall Stephanie and go hey, do you WANNA go? Why not it looks get when you cross over the border makes it look not so conspicuous okay. Because I got away with it the two times before this. I got a little greedy. Let's say I were to by four five thousand dollars worth of this synthetic morphine. I make twenty, five, thousand dollars off of it. And I decided that I was going to buy as much stuff as I could. Do Printing out all the money tick about a day and a half. Time consuming. I ended up printing out about eleven thousand dollars. At about six o'clock in the morning, we all jumped in the truck. On the way down in Mexico, I pulled out all that money. And I, was going through every single one of the bills. Whatever. Bills did not look perfect and put them behind the passenger seat of the car. I totally forgot about it. About eight hours later begun into Mexico. And, we found a pharmacy. And we Our vehicle was not right out in front of the. Pharmacy. Cement. Sheets asses yeah. We were all doing. Is They were like oh? You know we're doing good and shoes is there anything I can get you? He was like, yeah, we need to get some of this synthetic morphine. And some of these pills. She went and she got all this stuff. Is going to be three hundred sixty American dollars. So I pulled out a whole lot of money. And I'd handed her four one hundred dollar bills. Should put the money in the cash register. And then she didn't have any change. So she pulled out one hundred and she bought to the back of the store and told one of the other girls that work there. Hey. I need to go to the bank and Change One of these hunters for some change. I felt like my whole stomach discomfort twisted like someone grabbed it and it was like squeezing on it. What happens if she were to come back here with the COPS? I was like, Oh man. He is. This is not look at. We need to leave. We gotta out here. I was not about to get caught they're. Not Mexico. We started running. Go in the opposite way of our car. We ended up walking around the whole entire building. We looked down and there was a bunch of cops out in front of the pharmacy. All. My God. Thank God, we weren't there. I don't want them start looking around for. I need your fast. I knew that I had a problem. You got hot cars out front of pharmacy. And bringing out to go back and get the car. This wasn't part of the plan. We. WanNa take any chances so we ran a taxi down. All. Three of US gone in the back of the taxi and we told him he just drive. We kinda told the driver to drive back by the pharmacy. got onto the road where the pharmacy was. And sure enough there's cop standing out in front of the pharmacy. I told Jose I was like what we're GonNa do is one of. The tax jump into the car that we drove in. We pulled up by the pharmacy. A little bit pass it where car was. Jose jumped out of the taxi. Ran and jumped into the car. And he yelled at the texts cabdriver follow me. He pulls over, we get out of the taxi. And jump inside the rental car. That was a close call. Much more clustered you WANNA. Get. You know what I mean. I'm like we need to go. To town we needed to get away from Tijuana so we drove down to Tanada. We walked down the boulevard. And we went into pharmacy and we bought like to three hundred dollars worth of stuff. No problem. The Guy didn't even ask a question. He took the money counter to give back change we walked out of there. We. Walked down a little bit further and we walk into another pharmacy and we went and did the same thing. It seems to be really easy. It was like there was no heat on. US anymore. We spent. About eight thousand dollars. We got everything that we needed. It felt good. We stayed at hotel. went out to dinner. Dance and party. You know we're just having a good time. Made me feel a lot better because everything kind of worked out how I said it was gonNA work out. But still we had yet to actually drive across the border. We weren't done yet. The next day we got up. It was pretty late. I could hey guys i. go like three o'clock afternoon we gotta go. Everyone off man you know. We needed to get a little bit of money just enough to eat and put some gas in the car enough to get home we'll go to a couple of stores and all get change per hundred. Here. We pulled his mini mart. I told Jose just stay here in the car and I'll be right back. Sameera walk into the store. Was A rural small store. There is a little boy staying behind the counter. He was probably about thirteen years old or so, and he just kind of Said Hi. I grabbed a couple quarts of oil and I walked up to the counter and I asked him, can I have a couple of cartons of cigarettes? And the little boy was like sure and so he put them on the counter and he rain it up. I just handed him one hundred dollar bill and he walked through the back of the store. And I was like car. He was looking at it weird or anything. This Guy Kinda walked out kind of looks like he just woken up. He looked at the hundred dollar bill. He pulled out some money. And he gave me like seven hundred pesos. I grabbed everything and. It was like cool. You know I'm out of here. I went walking over to the car and I got in. Pose as looking at me like, Hey, you need to look behind you. I turned around the car. And that guy from the store is standing outside. With a hundred dollar bill holding it up in the air. And he's like turning it around and stuff I go this go. So Jose took off. In the next thing you know. Right out of a side road, this truck, this white old truck comes pulling out. The Guy from the store and he had a couple friends with them and they had a big twelve gauge on them. They're young out us and there were screaming. Hey. pullover. I was looking back. Close. Resume was looking in his review mirror. We were like. Gosh. What? I can't believe this is happening. Just go. All of a sudden I just turned around and I'm like looking behind us and Caesar's guys anymore. You know what I think we got away with it. I don't see anyone behind this. Do you and he's like, no, no see anything. Mike well, maybe we're okay let's get to the hotel room. As we were driving down the road. All of a sudden we were coming out to a road that was all blocked off. And there was a couple of small cop cars that were parked out in front of the road. We're both looking like Oh my God is that roadblock there or is it an an accident or white? I see cops and everything else. Jose is I just be cool let me talk. It just felt like, Oh, my God is this really happening. And these cops run over in the open up the car. and. They tell us to get out. So, we get out of the car. They're asking us what we're doing in someone called and said that we pass some kind of fake money or something on my Kate Thomas not us. We didn't do anything. Jose was pretty calm. Anytime. They asked him something in Spanish. He answered them doing. He was actually really good accomplice. The next thing you know the owner from the stores playing up and pointing his finger at me saying that was him. US. The Guy. That's him. Committee, here's the money that he gave me. Everything in my body kind of went numb. And I felt. I didn't know how to move. The whole attitude of the police change it was kind of a night and day thing. The cops just threw me up against the car. Handcuffed us. I'm sitting here thinking to myself Oh this is not happening. Yet. Seems. So Surreal. They take us both back to the police station. I knew that we are in trouble. I remember Jose Ptolemy just don't say anything. Don't see. Yes or note on tell him anything. They opened up all the doors and they started tearing through your car. They were tearing up carpet. They were looking at her neat the see the pulling out the panels of the car. It was crazy. I kept on thinking to myself there's nothing in there. What are they gonNA find And the next thing you know I see one of the cops. They come out of the back of the car saying look what I found. Nia had a stack of hundred dollar bills in his hand. It was the bills that up. He is like. They started questioning saying where you guys staying up. Item we just got here. We just drove down here today. The next thing you know they pulled out the parking pass I was sitting on the front of the car in between the DASH in the windshield. Look what we found. We know where you guys are. You're saying at the hotel. Corona. I didn't know what to tell him. He goes you. Might boy you're coming with. US. And they threw me in a pickup. Is Starting to settle in a little bit about what was going on. I should've never came down here. I was thinking. I gotTA. Get Out of this mess. Little did I know there wasn't going to be a way out. Pushed me into the room. They told me to get down on my knees day started going through the hotel room. Kicked on saying where's your drugs out gringo where the ad I don't have any drugs. They weren't finding anything. Last place that they looked. Was the bags that we had on the ground the. Bags open it. Up. And they saw all this foil and everything. Right then I knew that it was over. The threw me back inside of the truck. And they drove me and Steffi Court. A few days later found out that. Let her go. Bed Mean Jose were in trouble. Jose our sitting there waiting for the judge. Got To talk to my dad. I was so happy to see him. which sat there and talked and cried. It was pretty sowed. This horrible feeling. I just said I'm sorry that. I've caused this problem. I'm really sorry to put you guys through this. I know I should have listened to you i. hope you can forgive me. The said, don't worry. Forget you out of here. No matter what. Day Three car and they took us to the prison. It was to guard sandy out there. We pulled out and they walked up to the car. told us go ahead and go through? Day Open the door and they let us in. All I remember was looking up at thirty five feet of brick. and. I was looking around and myself wow. This is bad. They don't give you any kind of uniform. They're whatever closer on your back this what you wear. Prison seem like the worst place I'd ever been. It was hell it was actually hell. All the stories about. The Mexican prisons. They're very true. I was afraid for my life. The told us to go in this room. There is a group of like four guys sitting on the ground and they were all shooting up. Leading, how shirts on the IT looks like they hadn't showered for weeks. I was freaked out. This guy kind of poked his head out around the corner and he said, Hey, you to. Career. There is a few people. In a room all by themselves. One of the guys pulled out like a little mirror and get a couple of lines on them snorted a couple lines. Assis, do you guys want online? I was too scared to go to sleep. That maybe they would come over and stabbing in the middle of the night were sleeping. So I did a line. And that was the first time I had ever done any hardcore type of drug. It was methamphetamine. And I ended up staying up all night. It went by really fast. Doing the drugs. Made everything worse where someone that had to be It was the worst decision I could have made. As time went on I didn't actually really need the math. I needed the heroin now. I? Was An addict just like everyone else there. Usually had some frogs with me. This, Guy came running up to me CERTA point in my face he is I'm sick and I want some drugs you're gonNA give them to me I started walking away from him in the next thing you know i. see him out of the corner of my eye came running up to me with the knife. I was like. Did I just get stabbed here. I have to fight this guy. He added knife. Sort of face. As? I. Was Punching Him in the face he was trying to stab me. Felt like I had no more power in me. I had to get it back together in hidden again. was just giving everything I had. I was hitting him as hard as I could or to get that knife that he had away from them. I was fighting for my life. Trying to kill me. The very last punched a data Matar's could and he fell on the ground. Knife when flying out of his hand. I kind of knocked out. A couple of guys came out and grabbed me and they're like, hey, you're bleeding all over the place. Come in here and lay down. These guys. Brought me up with some rags and t shirts and stuff a couple of guys we're looking at me and they're like you're going to be okay. All the inmates don't go down there to the clinic and don't go tell it on anyone. I needed some stitches but you know if I would have gone down there then I would have been a snitch. I was so tired. Eventually. A pleading slowed down. I felt like it was the lowest point of my whole time being in there. I didn't know what to do. It was just a big mess. Armagh White Guy and Nextgen prison. The whole time it was a fight just to stay alive. I witnessed four separate occasions side people being stabbed to death. People actually dying in there. In. It's not thing that you ever really want see. They told me. I was leaving and to grab anything that I had or wanted to take with me and I said, I don't have any I wanNA take just get me out of here. In the handcuffed me. They threw me in the back of a pickup. I never thought that I would actually end up back. In the United States again been so long. I was so happy to be back. What I did was my fault there's no one else to blame for it. It was pure stupidity. If I could do it all over again. None of it. What happened? Being an addict is being in a prison of your own. Because my poor decisions, I went through what I went through. But I came out better person. I've learned a lot. And it's made me who I am. Thank you for listening to locked up abroad exclusively on luminary from wondering the network behind Dr. Death Dirtyjohn and business wars listen to more great shows like locked up abroad, visit luminary dot audio and wondering Dot Com. Locked up abroad was produced by RAW TV limited or National Geographic Channel's copyright two thousand eleven. All, rights reserved distributed under license from Fox networks. Group. Content Distribution UK. Limited. Our audio adaptation is edited by Daniel. Karimi. 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TLH082: Youth Pastor Compensation Survey

Youth Ministry for the Longer Haul Podcast

57:33 min | 2 years ago

TLH082: Youth Pastor Compensation Survey

"You're listening to the longer haul youth ministry podcasts with Jodie Livingston. And Chris Trent episode number eighty two welcome to the longer haul youth ministry podcast, helping you survive and thrive in youth ministry, and now your house Jody Livingston and Chris Trent. Well, hey, hey, everybody. Welcome to the show today. Thanks for tuning in and listening wherever you are wherever this finds you thanks for making this podcast today. Part of your day. It's your first time checking out the show, welcome. We are glad you're here. And if you're coming back. Well, welcome on back. If you have not already make sure you subscribe to the show so that you can get a the episodes as came out each and every week. So wherever that is. I tunes podcast player. Make sure you subscribe to that you can find us on social media pretty much wherever at at Christian at Jodi Livingston, or of course, over on the Facebook at the longer haul and even in the super secret podcast group. And so if you have not already joined that you should head over and do that great interview today Chris jumps on with Dan Navarro to talk about the new youth pastor compensation survey that's just been released man. You're gonna wanna take a lot of notes for sure also make sure you stick around to the very end where Dan gives you some great free resources as well. As a really cool webinar? That's coming up for you. That will be that. We know you'll find really really helpful. So make sure that you you don't bug out early on that. Yeah. So good. Good interview. Today. Also, we just want to take a moment to think our sponsors YM three sixty so head of YM three sixty dot com. Check out all the stuff they have their whatever it is that you're looking for in needing. They've got it. Whether it's a small group curriculum camp resources mission trip resources lab, just tons and tons and tons of good stuff over there. Good people. We love them and are grateful for their support of the show. So if you like to show, especially make sure you tell them thanks for supporting it also make sure you use the promo code longer hall, and you will save yourself twenty percent as you head over there. Also special thanks to the student ministry network. The folks down at the Georgia Baptist mission board who have come along to help support us as well. We're grateful for them so head over to student ministry network dot com and check out all the links and resources today that are mentioned, and there are quite a few will be at the longer haul dot com slash episode zero eight. Two that's a longer haul com slash episode zero eight two that'll do for now. We'll head into interview here is Chris interviewing Gan Navarro. At least. Feature presentation. Well, hey, Dan, thanks for hanging out on the longer haul, man. First time on what's up year? I'm excited to be here. Thanks for having me. Yes. So full disclosure you. We totally don't know each other. I don't think we've ever met at a conference or anything. I if we have apologized, but I don't think we have is that right? Yeah. No. I met you on Facebook like two weeks ago, and that's have a beautiful friendship. Let's talk about the end for second. How it'll? Youth ministry your youth. Pastor if I'm right? Your high school pastor out in California. Yes, how did you get into youth ministry, a product of youth ministry, or your church kids are not or what's up with that? Cool. So my I was not raising the Christian home raising a good home. My parents got saved when I was a third grader as a result of me. Singing in the only free children's choir in town, which was at the church. Pastor said something one day when I was singing and children's choir. My parents never left we became a church family like overnight. I mean hearts or like life change it was beautiful. It's affected my whole whole family tree, which is pretty great. And so, but I actually didn't have any interest in going into like vocational ministry all through junior high and high school as I was a youth group rat. I mean, I love youth group. I went to a couple of different churches at one time. My brother is a little bit younger than me. He's also a pastor. He felt a called ministry as an eighth grader. And I was like go get them tiger. I'm not gonna do that. And so. Fly down all the way. I know. I know. Yeah. It was cool. I like I've own tier with the youth group a little bit plates in worship music, and it's kind of a student leader. But like I was going to go make money as an architect. That was my plan. I was doing some three dimensional rendering stuff back when Toy Story came out. And yeah, it was really cool. And so I worked at an architecture firm all through high school, actually, and that was kind of content to go do that. And my freshman year of college got a hold of me and said not so much. And so I ended up dropping my architecture classes in college without telling my parents, which I don't recommend doing all you folks in college out there. My parents were super cold it and within a couple of months, I had applied and got an internship in my home church. Community Presbyterian church in danville. California out the bay area and started interning in going to school full time and just fell in love with the whole thing. Just to make sure I heard that. Right. You were Dan living in danville. Zayn come on pilot on pilot. Yeah, I am. You you probably have never heard that before. Right. I am Dan from danville. No longer, though, I've been out I've been out of danville now for what twelve years or something like that. Yeah. And so I got into youth ministry as an intern, and I really saw youth ministry as a stepping stone. I felt like early in the game. The call got on me was to pass through church one day. And so I set myself in motion to get a degree from a state school university and save some money and live at home, and or living actually lived in church housing to and then was going to go to seminary or. I did go to seminary went to fuller theological seminary got an MD from there. And my goal was to be out of youth ministry by the time. I was thirty and doing some adult ministry stuff and the best laid plans of mice and men often go astray, and so I at age twenty nine my wife, and I I knew something had to give with where we were at up in Modesto, California. And so I applied for got a high school pastor position just down the road in turlock and at age twenty nine I decided that I was not going to be done with youth ministry or bed with the same. As guy was not done with me. And it has been a wild ride. I've been monta vista chapel in turlock now for little over four years. And that's great. Yeah. It's what's cool. Is you know, I'm a high school pastor primarily that was what I was hired for. But I also get to function on our lead teaching team. So I'm in the rotation once a month for teaching our services. I also kind of function some executive roles kinda overseeing some logistics and things like that. So it's really a unique set up where I'm not a stereotypical youth. Pastor who just hangs out in the basement with kids and drink out and do all day. I actually get to do a whole bunch of other pastorally things in the whole process of the whole deal. But I love youth ministry. I bleed summer camp. Like, you can't you can't find somebody to love summer camp. More than me. And it's been really a fun season of doing high school ministry and a bunch of other stuff too. So yeah, I think that's great as you get older. If you know when we talk about longevity here on the, you know, the long haul whole lot, and obviously it is nice as you get older. If you have other. Gifting 's or other desires, it really is also when you're able to flush those out in some ways like so it's it's cool to get you know, to hear somebody say, hey, you know, like, I still love youth ministry. I want to keep doing youth ministry. I'm gonna keep you a summer camp. But also recognize that avid have a gifting and teaching. And I wanna teach you know. So in fact, that you're giving you that outlet in including leadership, you know, giving you some abilities to to do some of the leadership top think envision type thinking, and and even managing some as well. So that's really cool. It's pretty neat word shirt with twelve pastors on staff at our church, which knows a high number given the data that I collected. I mean, a vast majority of youth pastors are the second pastor at their church. And so they ended up functioning as everything when senior pastors gone or things like that. It's really cool. Our boss says man, I keep your job description on whiteboard, it changes as the Lord leads. And so if you feel tugged in a certain direction or. Menu feel like God is inviting you into something new. We wanna see you try and pursue that and see where that goes and keep that kind of open-handed. So it's really a beautiful picture of the kingdom. I think that it doesn't matter really what my title is. I get to care for widows, and you know, do funeral holes and serve communion baptized kids and do a church leadership class. I can do it all so it's kind of cool. Yeah. That's great minutes. That's stuff. And I think what's beautiful about that. Also is that really does help youth pastors to indicate that there's there's more to you than just hanging out with kids. Even though we know that it's more than that. We know that youth bathrooms do board. They just hang out during bound doing stuff. We know that there's more to that. And out of you didn't mean that like literally like, you know, that there's a whole another layer to that the relationship stuff, and that pointing all that the weight of that. But that said it is nice to be able to open spread your wings a little bit. And do some the Sixers that does bring value to what you do. And I think that'll help you experience longevity for sure right? No doubt. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. And it lets me let's my heart come alive in some other areas when maybe youth ministry, you know, I'm in your my fifth school year now at this church. So we got a pretty good rhythm. And you know. That's what it starts to get really sweet to somewhere like four or five years. It's a blast. I'll tell you what in my role. Specifically. I get to be on the the main platform a lot man recruiting staff is a blast. When everybody knows your name already have really great. So get stuff. That's me. That's great, man. We'll dance somewhere along the line. You got an issue to dig in a little bit do some research related to youth pastors compensation. So something happened in you. It. And I think I've seen that thing couple times so somewhere along the lines at it wasn't just this first year. I think I saw last year maybe even the year before but. Tell us kind of how what stirred in you that caused you to do a little research there in in in. Then we can jump into this year's specifically co. Yeah. It's kind of a combination of things. So the first thing I think that helped me pay attention to this was my dad was in management in hospitals for a long time. And so he did a lot of hiring firing annual reviews promotions things like that. And so he was always in my ear saying, you know, some places don't pass out raises. That's not how you usually get when you got to ask. And so that I think tune Montana up a little bit too compensation. Why some people may not? Pay attention to compensation then applying that principle to ministry and understanding like every dollar that goes into my paychecks dollar. That's not going somewhere else that the kingdom may need. So there's this kind of martyrdom that can happen and things like that. But really what it came down. To was Ma I'm thirty two. My situation was changing rapidly. My wife, and I got married we moved to a more expensive city to live in turlock where our church is. And at the same time found out we got pregnant our second pregnancy and it happened to be twins. And so now, I had two babies come into already go with one boy that I had. And so all of a sudden, it's like, holy smokes. I'm like twenty eight twenty nine thirty and I'm growing up quick. And I realized man my my compensation it makes it hard to be a family of five living in a pretty pricey part of the world. Just like I'd buy minivan like like real life stuff. And so what I did was I said. What can I figure out am I being compensated fairly with some concrete numbers? And if if I can find some numbers that say, hey, I'm real I really deserve a raise. I'd like to take those to my boss, and so this this started out like two and a half years ago. And I put a simple Google form up in a couple of Facebook group, so youth pastors and I was hoping for like fifty responses and within the first twenty four hours, I was over five hundred responses. Yeah. You you're on at something. Yeah. Yeah. And so I was like, ooh, this is a pain point and it had about twenty five or thirty questions. So it was a pretty robust form to begin. With like, I was asking for housing allowance social security in all kinds of stuff not social security numbers like opting out of social security and. And I found it was a pain point, and you know, within within a few within a few days weeks. I had like a thousand respondents. And so what I did was I I had a youth ministry contact my wife used to work for you specialties as a church relations director, she had me connected with Adam McLean. Who's now youth cartel? Yeah. So I sent him a message in man, he just loved what I was doing. And what it was about. And so he offered to publish it on their website. Because I was I'm a nobody, you know, I'm a nobody trying to tell everybody about somebody. And so I really wasn't nobody. Yeah. And so Adam was gracious enough to edit and publish the first survey results and Senate to his Email list and things like that manages took off. And so we did it again, Chris within twenty four hours of the report Bill in live. I was on the phone with Christianity today, and they wanted my data and they wanted to talk about how it was super cool. A long term partnership. And so now of a sudden it's like men people really want to know about this. And there's just no air like all the data is old that's out there. And you know, it's not usually centered around youth pastors in, you know, people who are starting out in ministry a lot of it. Yeah. So I just tried to help. And that's kind of how I got into it. And I became pretty passionate about it. Sent what school is that's led to you. Is this the third one the one that just came out as just the third one then or the second one, it's the second one. It's the second war. So this. We we do the survey in twenty eighteen and the results dropped in twenty nine. That's why. Yeah. Yeah. So so really, this is sort of the lessons learned from the first one that you kind of threw together. Now, you've taken all that you learn from that, and that's resulting in what we're looking at now. Right. Yeah. It really what it amounted to as I went from about thirty questions to fifty questions added in some stuff on location, geographies, code state, and then more information on gender and race and things like that. So it got more specific on the type of person and the profile of the person. And I mean, the holdover on youth group numbers church size and budget and all that kind of stuff saw the still the same. So that's great. So folks that are listening. You know, here's the deal. If you're serving out there, you know, you know, in a church either part time full time. One of the things that's important is to start to get your kind of get your hands around your head around. May what is fair, and what is what is fair compensation and would because a lot of times. We don't know what we can't ask for or what we should ask for and not only that there's that whole additional issue of the spiritual side of things of calling and serving Jesus and the monster that comes along with that at times, you know, so trying to get all that. So it does help if you're willing to do your homework in study, these type of things because it'll help you to know when you're sitting down, and they're like, well how much you know. Well, how much should do you think we should be paying you whatever it'd be great. If you're able to say with intelligence in with heavy actually learned this stuff why I've done a little research on that and youth Basler's typically at my stage alive are getting paid this, you know, and that's kind of fair market value right now. Yeah. That's actually the phrase that I've really put all my eggs in the basket of what does the market indicate that I'm worth, and I'm sure we'll talk about that when we jumping down. Yeah. Sure. Guys. Some guys just aren't near the either they're not a part of a youth pastor network, or they group at a church in are we'll start she had a few hundred bucks a month. They just kind of grew from there like a lot of guys aren't in the marketplace to actually know what's being offered in. What's being not offered out there for somebody with their area of expertise and education tenure? That's great. Yeah. Yeah. Well, so there's way more to the report than you. And I probably have time to really dig into. So I've got a few things after having looked at it. A couple of times that I want to touch base with you about get you to dig a little bit. But I wanna courage everybody. Of course, we'll we'll we'll add this to the show notes page. But I want encourage everybody to go out and take a look at the report, you know, download the report, and we'll add that here, and I'll give you a chance at the end to really point people in that direction on how they can do that before I dig into some specifics any. Would you just kinda give me an overview of what you learned it just kind of a quick? Yeah. Yes. So in your your one we had thirteen hundred respondents, basically, you're too we had over two thousand respondents fifteen hundred which were considered fulltime. And so obviously, it's not getting smaller. It's growing. It's it's people are really in need of the data is what I've found in terms of conversation online. And I think what one of my biggest takeaways from the whole deal. I think there was two real pain points that popped up maybe three. Okay. I'll say three one was the gender wage gap is. It is it is more difficult to be a woman in in youth ministry than it is to be a man when it comes to compensation. That's just what the numbers say. And I realized you know, we swim in a wide theological river, and some people don't even think women should have a business in that. And you know, whatever that's not what I'm about. I'm just saying if we're all all things equal than which should be equal. And then I think the second thing is realizing that a ton of youth pastors don't even have annual reviews, which is the proper place to ask for a raise and to to talk about compensation with your superior or your board or something like that. I mean, it the numbers were staggering on that yet like eighty percent of youth pastors didn't have an annual review in the last year while we have two times. I'm sorry. I got one eighty percent did not ask for a raise sixty five percents. Sixty four percent did not have an annual again tonight. Yeah. And I'm like, well, those are definitely correlated together. Because if you didn't have an annual review chances are you're not asking for a raise 'cause it years to lock in your boss's office to hang out something to talk to you about drop a bomb like that on. So that was kind of one of the things that I realized we're not being managed. Well, we're not being reviewed well in that kind of quashes the conversations wash with conversation. So let's see I said gender said the reviews. Oh, and then the third thing that I found and this relates directly longer haul is tenure and being in one place at a longtime actually does not lead to a higher compensation than somebody who's jumped around a bunch and that that's really disheartening for me. You would think that longevity is such a valued asset among youth pastors. Nobody wants to use pastor to be at their church two or three or four years. They want somebody who's going to be there a decade, plus, and yet the people who have tenure who have been at their church for ten years and having you know, had other jobs. The the numbers say they're making significantly like ten to fifteen percent lower than guys who get into the five year bracket and or gals get in the five year bracket, and then take their five years of experience in go down the road to somebody who's willing to hire them at a higher rate. And that was the part that's really troubling. For me. I think it relates directly to longevity. We're actually incentivized according to my data to to not stay in one place for very long. Has my experience is worth more down the road somebody else and not that that to me is really troubling for our industry, like give me a re gimme a reason to stay right painting with the market indicates on worth, and then I won't have to go look for another job to get the raise that, you know, my experiences that I really worth. Yeah. So so that was one of the things I wanted to do a deep dive in. So let's let's let's jump in there for a minute. Let's jump into this. This twist on tenure I think is the you know, the title there for that particular section. Yeah. That was troubling for me to when I read that. I was like dang. But it makes sense, right? Because we do see we do see you bachelors leaving often, you know, and often that is tied to the fact that I can make a little more not always but often it is tied. The fact that I can make more money if I go over to that place, or I moved to that place, and there's this constant turnover that seems to be taking place, and I think it's fair and your numbers are showing that one of the reasons for that could be tied to money. Right. And so I think I think more specifically than it being tied at just the pure dollars. Yup. Is you youth pastors? A lot of them are it's the first ministry job, and they start out as a traditional w tube khloe, no housing allowance and a lot of them are single when they start. And so they don't need family medical insurance. They don't have a house or any kids. And then all of a sudden over the five. Years between, you know, twenty five and thirty they get married have a family buy a house realize, holy smokes. Now, I gotta pay hundreds of dollars a month for my kids medical insurance, and my already small salary is shrinking not getting bigger. And so they go oh, man. I'm going to go look for another position where they offer family medical, or you know, they want a married couple with kids. And so they they've got a package that lets spouse not work and things like that. So it's kind of a little bit of a trap like in a sense. Yes. So one of the chapters in my book that I talk about is made. If you want to experience a lot of longevity talk about living, a life of simplicity that you have to understand that when you're twenty five it's a little bit of a badge of honor that you don't make nothing. Did you that you bake nothing that you make you know? And you're like, oh, yeah. You, you know, make liberal, and it's okay, then, but all of a sudden when you kids in your family and you start wanna take vacations. That's when. It's going to be really helpful. If you've made the decision to live a life of simplicity. So that you are able to afford to live because you've passers really are never going to make a killing. However, I think you're talking about something a little different here. Which is now we have to start the way the balance if I'm right if I'm understanding that ride of okay? Well, is it worth the strains of having to move a frame mill family, a whole lot in how that's going to impact my kids over and over and over again is it worth giving up the incredible fruit that comes from being in a place for a long time in order to make you know, a little more or even a lot more money. And that that creates a real challenge at think, they're so what do you think is the answer to that? What are some as you've processed this? And you've had these conversations. What do you figure you've passed or can do? To help change that a little bit in terms of not having to leave. Yeah. So I think the first piece is is. I mean full transparency it's actually having an annual review. I think is the one of the first steps doing do in terms of what let me let me back up a step a step from that. What happens is oh, man. I have a kid now all of a sudden, I got medical coverage or whatever. My instance. I'd buy minivan. Right. Right. Okay. I got I got to buy a new car. So that's a a an expense. That does some things to my finances. Now, I have two choices. I can suck it up and deal with that internally with me and my spouse or I can say to the boss. Hey, you know, life is changing. My literally my cost of living just went up drastically. Like, can we talk about some compensation, and what happens is if I this isn't always the truth? But what happens a lot of the time I've found and this is true in my story. Even if I don't talk to my boss or my. Aboard about my compensation. I have a tendency to drop some to drop a drop water of bitterness in a bucket. Because I don't feel like they're aware of the strain that my life is going under as it's changing so rapidly in my late twenties and early thirties. I mean, my household income if you chart that in my household expenses. I mean, it's it's ugly, especially out here in California. And so what happens is if I don't talk about it outside of my bedroom. With my spouse, I have bitterness that starts to creep in and the more drops a bitterness. You put you know. Oh, one more one more youth event one more church event in it's hand. But I'm I'm getting I'm getting low compensation for all the sacrifice. A now, I'm not home with my baby. Like come on hang on a second you the bitterness? Creeps in. And what happens is enough drops a water in that bucket. Eventually the bucket gets pretty full. And what happens is a lot of guys gals kicked the bucket, and they say forget it. I'm out in men. Everybody suffers when the kingdom loses. Good people doing kingdom ministry. Your students suffer their families. Suffer. I think it's that. So if I can say we want avoid the bitterness bucket pretty hard core, we want we want we want to figure out how do I deal with the things that I would normally get there. How do I surrender those? How do I have open hands about my compensation in my my situation, Emma churches situation, and yet I'm not just living out a calling, but I'm actually living out a sustainable career. And so the first step I think that you can do to shore that up is actually make your compensation ongoing conversation with your boss or your board. And that's the first step is having an annual review. I mean, more than half a youth pastors don't have an annual review that to me says there's a bunch of youth pastors out there who are struggling with their compensation, and they're not talking to anybody about it. And what happens is we are human and sinful, and we get bitter about nobody's hearing me. Nobody knows what I'm dealing with Dan leaving love that for a bunch of reasons in a specially for what you're talking about specifically, but that annual review and requesting that also helps though in other areas of what you're doing. And it's huge win it, especially when it comes to. If you don't know. Whether or not you're being successful or not in other words, if you don't have a moment set aside where you can have a conversation with those that supervise you those who ultimately are making judgment calls on your success. If you don't have that moment for them to say actually were struggling we're a little worried that you're coming in late all the time. Where were hey, you're really doing good in this keep that up or hey, I feel like you're focused on moral Wednesday nights. When really we want you to focus more on Sunday mornings. If you don't have a place to talk about those things, that's whatever all of a sudden, I think they're bucket of disappointment is filling up as well and eating that nobody wants to be. And then it's like you're going away. I didn't know like I didn't know all of that. Right. And so that's why. And and this is really, what's what's unfortunate is this is really us leading from the ground up. So this is kind of how to lead when you're not in charge clay Scroggins type book here. This is you're not in charge. But you're having to speak to those that are and say, hey, can you do this for me, and that and that's powerful stuff there and one of the the weights that a lot of youth pastors especially because they're young, and they're, you know, whatever bottom of the totem pole out of the times, they're balancing that. Well, it sounds like I'm greedy when I wanna come in. And. About my performance or it sounds vein or prideful or arrogant. And and I always say humility is not have not thinking too, much or too little of yourself. It's having an accurate view of yourself. And so in proper humility to be able to say, hey, you know, we've baptized this many students, we we saw this many staff get recruit, I mean, just being able to talk about what you're doing a good thing. And then, you know, the the Joe Hari window. I don't know if your listeners know, the Joe hardy windows, making puts on the show notes about that. But not a lie. I don't have any idea what you're talking about. So. Yeah. It's way of seeing yourself in people that was account by two guys named Joe, and Harry, the call to the Joe Harry window, and basically what it speaks to is. You don't know what you don't know. What's in your blind spot? You have to have a conversation with somebody about what you don't know about yourself or your performance. So that so that you actually then bring it in the light and go man, I they they don't want me doing as much program. They want me to a more relational stuff or they don't care that. I'm spending a bunch of time with students. They wanna see me empower other leaders to spend time with Stuart like, you don't know what you don't know. Right. And so that that annual review a lot of bosses don't initiate that in so youth pastors have to lead up and say, hey, you know, we need to get this on the books, and it needs to stay on the books every year, so that or or BI annually so that I know, and you know, that this is conversations coming in. You can give me an honest evaluation of what's going on. And actually have I know a lot of youth pass. A lot of senior pastors bosses. Don't don't know how to do that. Because we have theology degrees. We went to school to study the bible, not to run a corporation or business. We're not HR experts. And so on my website. I've got a free seven page downloadable template that you can use for annual review. It's a two part annual review in you, come with something filled out your boss comes with something filled out. And then you talk about that. And you come back later, and you have a game plan in place for how you're going to develop and grow in like I've used that the last five years when my boss, actually, he's used it. With me. I borrowed it from him in adopted it for use ministry, and I mean, there's a spot in there to talk about compensation responsibility in hours and job pressure in relationships with co workers. I mean, there's it's everything on there. So that everything is brought into the light. And and your boss has a chance to bring it into light. And you have a chance to bring it into the light. And it's a safe place. So so we're all about also Dan, not getting fired light. That's a big thing for us as well. So here's the caution. Folks, if you're listening. I think what Dan is saying. And I think you would agree with. I'm about to say, Dan, I think you would you tell me if you don't I I think in most cases, this is this is a great idea that this is something you should be able to most fairly healthy situations. This is great bright. But I I would just save. But, but if you're out there listening, though, in you know, that your pastor is in a really bad place right now or things are just unhealthy very volatile in that he would look at you like, you're just a knucklehead or like have lost your mind. If you come in with obviously us, pray about this thing through this approach this in the right setting not in an aggressive, you owe this to me Conaway, but in a way of true humility just kind of saying, hey, I would love to just implement something like that. And I think in most cases at work, but I would just say as a caution pay. Attention to your environment. And make sure that you don't if things are in a bad place. Don't make them worse. So so just just try to be smart. Seek out some council maybe specifically about whether or not it might be a good idea for for your situation. So yeah. And that's that's really where I would say, you know, sometimes it depends on your church polity. But I mean doing this alongside an elder or a deacon or somebody somebody you're not your boss like having the conversation start there, if if things with boss aren't going, well, like there's other there's other avenues for this. But what happens a lot of the time to is. If it's not if your boss isn't doing real healthy. All of a sudden, you know, this poop rolls downhill like that unhealth is going to have a chance of really affecting you, and you know, then the bucket of resent Mckee hit a little bit full little bit quickness Sherman. Yeah. Something to be real careful about menace. Good. That's really good stuff there. Dan. Thanks for that. That's awesome. Things in the in the in the report that that jumped out to me here. It is a little one at one of these is a little bit of what we've kind of already talked about. But half the one of the things you discover was that half of the folks that that that is it half that took the report or took the took the survey have been at their church less than three years said. Accurate hat. Yeah. Half of the youth pastors of the over two thousand youth pastors in our survey half of them, I've been at their current church location, three years or lemon. Yeah. And we think that. Are you in all the same page? We think that number should not be that. We think there should be higher. Oh, yeah. Okay. I think it should be higher. But the one of the problems is staying in the same place your salary the numbers say your salaries lower. So, you know, I think one number needs to change first. And then the other number will, you know, I think I think there's a correlation there. But yeah, we want youth pastors to stay in the same place. You wanna see your sixth or seventh or eighth graders? Graduate high school go through college comeback as adults and serve with your youth ministry like that's a huge kingdom win. But it takes a decade to do that. Yeah. Yeah. And that's balancing back into what we talked about just a minute ago, which is going back to that. How do you continue? So you talked about the annual survey, but in that one way to help ship that a little bit is the continued to try to figure out ways to. Not let's stay in the same place for so long impact salary in a negative way. But but increasing that compensation. Yeah. And I honestly like what I've found is. This is my own experience talk. I asked for raise every year. And I don't get a raise every year. I get a raise when I when there's money to give a raise because I'm asking dish raise. And what it does is it takes the conversation and puts it on the stove, even if it's on the back burner. And then all of a sudden, I mean, you don't know your church request all kinds of things in all of a sudden, you got there's money in the budget. And oh, yeah. Yeah. Dan, the youth. Pastor was asking about, you know, maybe an extra two hundred bucks a month or three hundred bucks a month. And like that that's not a ton of money. Like it just needs to be consistent money. You know? So all of a sudden you like, oh, yeah. Let's give them a bump. Let's even if it's one or two percent if you get a two percent raise every year like say, you make forty grand you get a two percent raise. Right. That's eight hundred bucks a year. Not. I mean, you can't go to Disneyland for eight hundred dollars. Right. But if you get two percent every year for five years, you just netted another four thousand dollars. You got a ten percent raise over five over five year period. Now, that's not bad for cost of living raise? No. Does it account any merit at all? That's that's great guys. I know plenty of people out there that would kill to have a ten percent raise over a five year period. And so you're just setting the bar a little bit higher a little bit higher a little bit higher. Those big twenty percent raises. Those don't come along very often where your boss walks in and says, you know, you did a great job this year. We're going to add a zero to your salary. I'm thankful to be wearing them. And they they're great the way those raises happen. And this is also true of my story. Is you have to leave to go. Get the big ten fifteen twenty percent raises. Because you're yeah. I mean, so create created a culture though, to where so what we're fighting against them as created some type of culture where then because you do want to stay at a long place so communicating I would love to stay here. I don't wanna leave a wanna create some type of system the where I can't get those raises, you know, and I can't continue to to grow in that. Because what's going to happen is on? I think I read the senior Portas if you leave they're going to end up having to pay somebody what you're making if not more in order to replace you because they want to replace you with your experience. Right. Well, the market indicates that that's ten percent higher than what they're paying you. So they're stuck. But Dan to be fair though. Now now, here's where where I do think. It's impor-. Certain that as ministry people, we sometimes remember. For lack of a better way. Say like the secular world, or whatever, you know, the the normal work world outside of ministry, but that is consistent as well though for people that are working in secular companies, also correct like. Yeah. So this stat what you call. The twist on tenure. Is fairly common in corporate world as well. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And if they don't ask for it or they don't try to do something to continue to make it grow. Yeah. Because there's not a boss in the world that's trying to take in for profit business. They're trying to put that money in their own pocket. So I mean, that's just that's how business works. It's capitalism. So in a nonprofit, it's a little bit different. Because you know, you don't go down the street to your competing company. Mike my partner worked for apple in what what happens is people just get hired away. They'd come back six months later, and they would have the raises that they need. I mean, I know several people who do that in the real world the real world the secular world, and it's sick. It's sad. But I mean, that's a business. They're not worried about relationships nearly as much as we are that that's traumatic for art. Are we going to do better? We gotta do better. We got the right, balancing, and if there's a way passers that we can cast that vision to stay somewhere for a really long time. But yet be fairly compensated and help them to understand that. That's. Where what I love while love what you're doing. Is this gives us actual data makes us experts in what we're doing in in allows us to communicate effectively, you know, in a way that could hopefully help us achieve some of these things. So that's. Emboldens us also to to know that our ask hold some power. When we ask for a raise we're asking for it, not arbitrarily, and then the other pieces, if you you don't feel like you get an answer that you want you get two honestly way. Do I think I could go somewhere else than have more long jeopardy because of a healthier compensation situation. It's not all wrapped up in dollars and cents. But you know, it's a slice of that pie that we have to way, especially as families grow and things like that. I mean student loans kick in all that matters victim. Well, how about this question, then maybe a little bit of the little bit of change here in topic here? Honest question is it isn't an over simplification as as I've looked at at the report is an simplification for me to say that ultimately. Ministry is somewhat consistent with with corporate America world, you know, the world's second world, whatever in the sense that. Ultimately, the level of education the level of experience. Those things are ultimately going to impact. Positively or at least not get in the way of you continuing to make more money. Does that make sense high that yeah, yeah? Yeah. It's not an over simplification. I I don't think I did it on this year's report on last year's I actually made the point that of people who are twenty year veterans the split on who has their master's in who has their undergrad is pretty even. So it's not necessarily that you go to seminary if you wanna be a long-term youth pastor per se, but almost all of the twenty year veterans. It was like ninety five percent. Plus all had a degree grow launched like light, educations, definitely tied to longevity for for sure. Because I mean, the reality is churches that wanna pay top dollar for somebody want them to be qualified as they can be. I mean, that's that's the way it works in the real world would sway it works in the Church World. Yeah. Yeah. In one thing. I've learned over the years to is. And so as I'm. As I have opportunities to mentor, you know, younger right out of college age. You know, folks, I'm like man go to school while you like get your college degree if it's all possible. It can if it can be in the cards, and if God's on like steering you away from this just going ahead and continuing education trying to knock out that master's degree, whether that'd be some some type of quivalent. It's not that guy. Can't use you without that. But man, oh, man. Oh, man. It it it it's important because it at least eliminates that as a potential roadblock later on down the road when you're twenty five thirty it may not matter. But when you're forty five and you're wanting to continue I can tell you as a forty eight year old having that seminary degree for me. Matters because it it opens doors, and it also doesn't shut doors that that's the way I would say as well because there are some churches. Well, where I served Johnson varies a great example of that. You know, we have three tiers sort of system where we have ministerial level like a program associate level in we have support staff flare level. College degrees are required for all those levels. But from a ministerial standpoint seminary or an equivalent is a prerequisite period. And there there's nobody on staff that is, you know, and it doesn't matter experience, even you know, and now that can be debated whether that's good or bad. But it is it's a culture that I live in. It's church. I live in and I know I know lots of churches that that function and that may be kind of a Baptist. He kind of thing. I don't know. You know, maybe that's a Baptist world kind of thing there. Maybe that's not true in some of the other other studies, the, you know, but but for us, I'm telling you minutes big deal. I think one of the things that so some. People go through this process. Specially like college age young eighteen to twenty two type folks were looking at ministry, they're like accommodate my grandma goes seminary them going to start ministry and graduating at twenty four five six whatever with a seminary degree, but not having any experience under your belt is a recipe for a little bit of a disaster. That's equally detrimental. I agree. Yes. It is. You like nobody wants to hire somebody who learned how to serve the church in a classroom. Alright it's a boots on the ground type a relational ministry. And so I really recommend that you get lease or work part time like part time and work your way up or doing, internship, or whatever you gotta do. And then the other piece of this is a lot of churches, and even denominational bodies will give you money for school, right? Yeah. They will pay for your books. They will pay they will pay for all kinds of stuff at because here's why. And this is why it's different than salary for one salary comes out of the gen. Fund every single week or every single two weeks, or whatever it is every month. And so that that has to be given off of giving to pay for your salary, but to pay for school four times a year for a few years, or whatever that's gonna come out of a designated fund a lot of time, and that money's been sitting in the Bank, somebody died or whatever, and they left the church some money in it was earmarked for education. This happens all over the places, and people don't even know they don't even know it's an option and so asking your boss or your board. Hey, can the church pay for this many units? This is how much dollars it's gonna cost. Can they do that over a two year period or four year period because it's it's not a long term commitments short term commitment? And that's a great investment in you. And it's like free money you because then you don't uptick out alone. I mean, it's that I I got over fifty thousand dollars in support for my seminary education my degree from Fuller's like sixty five grand and so not rushing hang on. Yeah. It's like having a second. Mortgage. You know, if I was to take a loan out on that day. So it's good. Yeah. Damn would you agree that one of the keys all of this? Then is meant as as folks are hearing these things, and we're going in and ask him for hoping for trying to create systems that will lead to better compensation. That if if that's true one thing we need to make sure though is that were good like that. We are working hard. We're striving to be excellent. And we're doing our job. Do you think that's part of it? Yeah. I well. He might answer that questions. Yes. We should work. Like, we're working for the Lord because we all right with the Lord in everything everything we say and do, but I also would say do not shy away from an evaluative conversation. If you feel like you're not doing a good job because you don't want to just come and talk about performance and money when things are going well because that looks really vein, right? Oh, I'm doing great. You should pay me more. That's not the conversation. We're trying to have we wanted to be a conversation. And you want your boss still to say, hey, you know, your performance this year was not what we needed it to be. Here's how you can improve. And then developed like grow that's the whole point of the coaching. It's a coaching conversation. It's not just asking can I get more money. I mean, you really want evaluation, and so don't shy away from it. When you know, you haven't done your best like, that's man the year. My wife had a hard pregnancy. We had twins. It was like I was out of the office. I worked twenty five hours a week for like four months. I mean, it was a year where I did not do my. Best ministry. I was less than present. Okay. I got through that season. A buckle back down. We're human people know that you can't always give forty fifty sixty hours a week. So yeah, I definitely would say it's very important good. This is all great stuff as we get close to the end here. When you think of how to wrap this thing up just some overall things you would want to say to folks and in a few minutes. I wanna give you an opportunity to kinda point everybody to all these resources, but. When it comes the folks, I if you're say, there's a youth pastor out there, and they've looked at this thing, would you? How would you wrap that up? What would be the kind of big takeaway for you or big takeaways, you a couple of whatever they would you say, folks, I'm just I hope you're hearing this part of it. Yeah. I tried to let it land. Every single report that I do with an encouragement to not let this be the thing that snaps you. Right because we church don't talk about money. It's taboo to talk about money. And so all of a sudden, we have a conversation about compensation and like man people can walk out of that conversation. Like, you could hear what I'm saying right now and be angry at the way, you're being treated at your church. Whether you think it's fair or not or I have I've been there five years, and I've never had a review like I've heard all of that. We have a spot in our survey for comments and like a people wrote paragraphs about how painful their situation as a means. Unbelievable. The hurt that's out there. And so I don't want this conversation to be something that breaks you. I wanted to be out. I want it to be like you just got handed the ace of spades. And you're playing cards like I want you to feel empowered. But also stay humble, I want you to feel like this is supposed to encourage you swordsman. There is a pass towards me making my calling a career and having it be sustainable in not killing my future or my family or like there is a path through. Oh that, but it takes it takes attention. It takes care. It takes. Right understanding of landscape of compensation in. So I just want to be an encouragement not a disengagement. And I know that there's definitely pain out there in. So if you're out there on your hearing it, and you're you're in a tough situation meant God has you right? Where he wants you for the season that he has you there? And I'm not saying that season's coming to a close at all. I the very end of my thing has what's called the Halverson benediction by Richard Halverson you go nowhere by accident. Wherever you go got sending you wherever you are. God has put you there. God as a purpose in your being there Christ lives in. Yeah. Something he wants to do through you where you are believed this going grace in love and power Jesus. Like, I believe that benediction is powerful. When we remember that God has put us where we are. No matter what the dollar's say that doesn't mean we ignore it. That's that's a good word number. That's great, Dan. This is all really really solid stuff here folks, friends listening. Here's here's what I want to say to you. It's important for you to do your homework, and it's important to hear everything we're saying, but what Dan, and I are not saying his to listen to a podcast and then walk into an office and. Hey, I listened to a podcast. And this is what I want or the logger. Halt said I'm worth twenty seven percent. Oh, we didn't. Do your homework study like go ahead. And as I as I give Dan here. Just a second opportunity point to where you can get this thing. Download it read it. Yeah. Think through it read through with somebody that you trust. That's wise. Prey sequels cow. Become an expert in it the best you can in. Then make a decision. Don't don't don't set up an appointment next tomorrow based on just listening to what we're saying. Take a minute chew on it. You know, you look you made it this far without making much money. What's another week or two, right? So. Just take your time on this thing. Dan, how how can we find you personally in the point is to some of these powerful resources, including an opportunity coming up for a free webinar that you're going to be doing including your website where you mentioned earlier like that evolving. So what I did was I want to really turn the report into more of a conversation. So I kind of started my little side hustle and right now, we're not selling anything. But we're going to be at one point it right now, it's called Y P con pros dot com. Why P cop pros like us? Pastor compensation professionals, and you can go to wipe you compress dot com. There's a button at the top where you can click for the February eleventh webinar, we're gonna have a webinar it's free webinar, and you can ask questions real time about your specific situation there if you want we also have a button at the top for free, tools, and the free tools that we have right now that are available that you can download today. It's kind of course, they Mitch download it's it's super easy to do housing allowance. Calculator a lot of guys just put the whatever they're paying on their mortgage. It's more than that that you're allowed to claim and then some stuff for opting out of social security and understanding the housing allowance though, some forms for that. And then the annual review template that seven pages long that you and your boss can use those free resources. You can download on our website right now. And then our plan is over the next couple of months to put together some classes masterclasses on things like interviewing on understanding benefits. My wife is a benefits counselor for an insurance company, and it's her wheelhouse. So we've got all kinds of stuff come in down the road that will be tools that can equip you for how to nail a resume understanding a cover letter. References just some tips and tricks that will give you a huge edge in the marketplace as you think about your next opportunity, and then we have a blog that we're we're publishing some sub reports right now some follow ups to the bigger fourteen page report that I put out I mean, it's single space fourteen. Pages a big it's a big dog. But I didn't go specific on a lot of things. So we just yesterday dropped the gender wage gap blog. I did one as well this morning that went live on annual reviews is all in all of that is on the why Pete comp pros dot com. Wipe wipe cop can sign up Email lists the whole nine yards a personal website. Also, I don't have a personal website. You could find me on Instagram Facebook at Dan Navarra and a VA also Google me. I pop up there. And so the so the P con pros dot com. That's where you can also find the the Email stuff that you could do potentially with your bosses. Well, right. Yeah. It's right there, another flaring source. That's great, man. That's good. And this is this has been this has been awesome. This is a great conversation to have. And and I think I think one of the keys the longevity man is is understanding that. All of this stuff. Really does matter, you know, and we need to take the time to educate ourselves in things that aren't always easy to understand. How is it allowances? And why should I be making and cost a living? It's called being a grownup, folks. Well, it's far as nobody's coaching people. Yes. No. There's not there's nobody out there coaching Astor's through this. And that's why we wanna help we really want to help you understand like I mean when I discovered what the housing allowance was. And what not like what I discovered those things. Like, this doesn't even cost my church more money, but it puts more money in my pocket. Yeah. Like, I was like I can't wait to do that. And I didn't even know it was an option for me until I stumbled into it. And so I'm trying to help people not make the same mistakes that I did. And let's I want you to stuff. That's great stuff. Dan. Thanks a ton for minimum. Sorry. Jodi wasn't on. You know, I should have told everybody that was the beginning. But Jodi was he's totally he's he he lives in California now. And and so he's totally. I think in laws are there for the first time since he moved out there, you know, a couple of months ago, and so he's trying to make a big first impression as we're recording this. So he he wasn't able to join us. So just the side. But I wanted to make sure we got you on because this is such a great topic right now, man and met thank you for doing this. Thank you know, shout out to to all the folks that are helping you set Adam Adams, helping you get this done. And and so so those folks man that the you've cartel for support you in this man, that's that's huge as well. So encouraging to those guys. And so yet may keep up the great work out there man, if I'm ever in California, dude, will you take me to Disneyland. How close are you to Disneyland? I'm five hours. That's not gonna work and how about a state park or something or the water, man. You got a I've ever been surfing. How about that? Can you take servant? Oh, yeah. Yeah. For sure I'm too. I'm two hours from the snow, and I'm two hours from the beach. That's okay. So I'm like the only youth pastor over the age of forty that has never been snow skiing. Also, so so we need to we need to have already depart like do both in one. That would be that's California. That's incredible. You can snow ski. I know. Right. Yeah. Sure. Awesome day will. Hey, dan. Thanks for hanging out, man. We preach. Thanks so much for having me. Well, there you have it. Head create great great interview there with Dan, I hope you will take advantage of those resources, especially the webinar if you're listening to this. When it comes out be sure to head over to the show notes page at the longer haul dot com slash episode zero eight two we got links there for you for all of the things be sure also to head over to YM three sixty dot com. Check has guys out use the promo code along hall. Save yourself twenty percent as well as the student ministry network. And so we'll be back in the next episode, Chris, and I. Tack on it together. We're grateful for you guys. Thanks for listening. We'll see you in the next episode base out. Thanks for listening to the longer haul. Youth ministry podcasts at triple W dot the longer haul dot com.

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The Wolf and the Sheep, Part 1

The Score: Bank Robber Diaries

35:06 min | 1 year ago

The Wolf and the Sheep, Part 1

"From Western sound studios. This is the score season one. The bank robber diaries. I'm Benadryl and this is episode. Four the wolf and the sheep part one. I never remember what motivated me to go. Go to Valencia California north of La. And normally my thing was to stay as close to the freeways possible as I keep driving long light too long. Lighting should turn around here like a little further. It's gotTa be win here by the time I get to this bank having the freeway but there's a bank there and this is the perfect kind of bank to rub the thing that makes the perfect. Is this right there on the street. There's this giant parking lot all around it and then behind the parking lot there is a Ralph's and a bunch of stores and probably twenty shops and they're easily and says let me fucking do the park back there Walter. The parking and so long parking lot. Yeah it's good little walk. I Walk Inside the bank and I do my spiel. It's simple spiel may have a bomb. Whatever I put bank robbery so I walk on? This is one of those fascinating like epiphany as I walk out of the bank and I show walking through the parking lot. Are you walking or running now. I'm walking you're walking. I'm just another person walking between cars in the parking lot. I'm trying to blend in but the I do turn around and I notice tellers run out of the bank and as soon as you run out of the bank and they get to the curb. They don't look up and see me. What they do is immediately come out and they start turning ahead left to right and they start looking in the cars that are driving by because they assumed like on TV that I there was a getaway driver and only one of those cars? Because they're buying into the hype they're buying into the old story thereby an some false sense of what happens when I'm the reality of what happens like that was something I was invisible. I was looking right at them and I might as well have been a fucking ghost because they I'm not seem it in never looked down and I just walked away casually later on. I would continue to do. We've always look around and I was marvel at that but I remember. That was the first time I was like Whoa. I'm right here. What the how can we can't see me? You know it was really really strange. It was an interesting thing. Human psychology you know to understand that that's what was going on got away Part one the home front so joe. You're nine when your mom passes away and then you have this big moment of release after she passes but then it's just you your brother and your dad had together. What happens next? After my mother passed away I became extremely anxious. Do we have enough money for rent Do we pay all our bills food whereas if we come from like I understood that there is these financial stresses on my father because of the hospital the bills banks and so I started like Oh shit things can happen. Things are going you know. Rocky I was in stony insecure about finances and money and totally harass me through off kilter. which later would inform the bank robberies? So I'm this little boy who's naturally becoming anxious about my existence because my mother's dined all this turbulence whatever and I I'm just trying to find purchase somewhere right and my dad's nickname Mr nerves so this thing that should have been handled like your kid. Kash somebody came to me and other kids going through this. I would say Guinness psychologist. I just man get counseling. They need out but at the time I was just marked for being troubled for being normally trouble and I was also starting to act out so I was considered a sinner. Bad Kid bad boy because I was starting to act out because I wasn't being nothing about me was being addressed addressed. So the violence escalates. After my mother passes away and He starts dating a woman within a year. He's married married again because he needs a wife for any need a mother for his kids and the old and you know it's kind of an old school kind of way of thinking about it right in the old country. That's what you did. Yeah Yeah I gotta marry somebody because they got somebody to take care of my kids and Brenda was twenty. I was ten. My Dad was twenty six. Yeah she's still in college he. He started dating her. She moved into a neighborhood and she she got an apartment nearby us and see Brown people. There's this very light skinned woman irish-american Reddish blond hair freckles and We were house amazed by her. She had this thing called Potpourri. What wizardry is this like she had? We walked into apartment man and she had like a chest I was like what is that at the foot of her bed. I shared a quilt. I was like what the Hell is that. She had candles. The can was. Wow this is cool thank you it was a it was like stepping into Ethan Allen Shores. I've felt like I was like wow. This woman lives differently than us in our she was not east. La Mexican she was not you know mafia projects. She was none of that she she was she was white and she was raised in Turlock California. She was daughter of people farmed She baked her own GRANOLA. Baked bread candor on jealous. I got fell my love Marmalade from her making Marmalade. So you liked like the right away. I mean we liked her yes she was very very cool to us she wasn't my mother. There wasn't a big like it's not warm but she didn't have to be super warm because we were desperate for female faction and we need a mother energy and one thing she gave us was mother energy. She made our curtains in our room. She made our pillowcases. She coordinated them select by sailor themed like she was like we had. We didn't have only curtains room. She made on ings in our arom over the window. Awnings I mean just shears. Amazing I mean I I loved her exposing me and opening my the world and so many lovely ways here you boys you need to eat. She Fed us. She made homemade food for us all the time. That was you have to have these veggies. You have to have this much like she understood. Diet in a way that never choose. I won the concept of need as many vegetables food. You need money. Ah Vegetable every meal like having And when she packed lunches they weren't always the healthiest lunches but they were the best lunches at school hands. Down people want all the kids. Kids want to trade with us that bag you know you have your most kids that come with a folder bag ours berry had enough room at the top two. Fold carrying a bag of food to school. We had it going on. That woman took care of us and we felt like we were like we were taking care of. I remember I took us to. She's like you know your boys go to Dennis. My Dad's like okay and she's like what was sending went newsday. What she kidding me? They need to go to Dennis every year. Like she brought a whole new ethos she. She exposes that. My Dad wanted us to to read the Bible every day. We'd been New Testament Old Testament so Brennan came along and said okay. That's cool but the boys need to read literature too and so here boys always read Jane Eyre Read Weathering Heights. Read Robinson crusoe. We'd Frankenstein read Let me like she was the one who said you guys need to read these books so my dad was okay. If you'RE GONNA make a million they have to write book reports and then we book portion of you didn't like and we got spanked so like that kind of took kind of ruined a good thing thing but she was like no. You don't want to traumatize around literature but I'll go. Literature should have some trauma associated with I think. Did you ever feel guilty for her so much. Yes I remember in the very beginning actually I made a quiet packed with my mother. My mother that I would not not ever Brenda more than two. Whereas I don't worry not gonNA give her that? I'm going to be not going to get to me. I have allegiance to my mother by. Jesus Christ I mean. I eventually loved Brenda more than anyone could rent. Because I had now that convert zeal once I did go to now. I gotTA righteously love this because now now I'm all right so I think did feel guilty that I loved her so much. I appreciate it her so much that I need in her so much you know like but she was shoved school for things. I'm thinking specifically being at school. And and and then Brenda having to pick me up. Because I got sick or injured or Parent Teacher Conference. But I remember Brenda coming to school and me thinking and people saying is that you may say no. That's my mom like proud proud that this person was my mom. Come to school to do what she was supposed to do. From inner like Bat. I definitely had that feeling like she did what mothers is supposed to do. You know I do what I do as a dad driving my daughter around you know. Do this do that and I think like this. This is we were in the back of Brenda's dodge DART. She she would go. GotTa go this guy. I mean I feel like that's what I'm doing you know like I'm doing. What Brennan Difference? Yes you take care of a kid you feed him you pack them up make them proud of the little lunch you give them and stuff you know. That's that's how I parent so she was very influential. I'm grateful for them but during the same time like what was going on with your dad. This this is the thing. Oh my dad. My Dad was not twenty four seven raging punching. But my Dad Dad was twenty four seven Organiz your life around his moods. She always had to be on guard always paying attention attention to his mood. You never wanted to send anything off so he could be good and nice and kind for a long time but you always understood that underneath there at any minute something could blow so if you said Joey Paul get over here man. We would run over there when you're in trouble and we just like what we knew that we did not want to set him off anymore if he was angry and so when he would call bowman we were on Johnny on point. And if we're meant we were going to get the job and he said get back up. We'd get back up and get the fist in the jaw and also no it just terrified. Would you like watches watches movements when he comes home when you raise this year which you you listen to what. He slammed the door in the driveway when he. I mean just depending on now you oh fuck the walk walk up. We opened. The door slammed slam the door closed door. You could hear whole whole moods in the way. He closed the window or open a window. Chess there is that I mean when you're when you're plugged into somebody like that. It's year the small animal on the jungle floor. Just listen everything picking up everything which creates its own kind of anxiety right. But it's another filling out this nece. I did not like organized in my life around. That man's mood we did not want to upset him anymore that he might possibly be upset. You know yeah it was terrified of my father. We'll be right back to new life. I rented a room in a house going to college and my landlady and her husband attended a church that had a very active college change group and I started attending. Joe was teacher. This is Brenda formerly Joe. Seniors wife and Joe Juniors step mom when she says Joe she's talking about just senior our bank robber Joshi she calls Joey. He was very compelling wonderful presence in a podium very scholastic to this day. Probably one of the more intelligent can't ever met hundred. Talk about Brenda first of all. She doesn't want us to use her last name or give any details about where she is now or what she's doing now. She loved the boys back then still ups the boys especially Joe's brother Paul. She still feels close to him even though she tries really hard not to think about that period of her life anymore she tries really hard not to think about Joe Senior. I was from out of town. I thought it was a great wait. Wait start getting to know people and I don't recall exactly when we started dating we were going to the same school We didn't have a lot of time. We were students and we were working. We I remember we were in the car and driving somewhere things taking me home and he was rambling on about something and suddenly he said and you should know. I think I'm falling in love with you. Yeah that was my response to was like. Where did that come from? I mean I knew. Oh he was interested but I also knew he was a lonely man with a lot on his plate and I was from out of town. I didn't know many people other than you know at school. I think I was just very surprised that he would single me out to me. He was he had a very established relationship. He had a very high profile in the community. He rubbed shoulders with some very important people. He was young on yet but he had a reputation that was stellar. Everyone that knew him thought he was wonderful. And so I was automatically in I. I think that's what was really nice about it now. I had friends a circle of people a place so but you met you met the boys. And that was you're engaged at that point Yeah Yeah I think we had With nate the announcement. What was your first impression of them? Paul was the imp you know he was the little shy one and I remember he just sort of giggled. MM-HMM I remember. I knelt down. They were so little and I kinda got down on my knees and said I'm glad to me. I'm very pleased to meet you too true. Daddy explain everything and and Joey said a hall and Paul just Kinda giggled and walked up to me. He had a little habit he would rub. Someone's when's your lobe. If he liked them or felt comfortable with them it was just a little habit he had and he reached over and he rubbed my ear lobe and he said welcome to the family and I was I was in. You know he had me. He had me at welcome to the family and Joey was grinning. My impression of had them was. They were very lonely. Little Boys I remember the house. The apartment was just filthy very dirty and again I thought you know widowed man going to school holding a job and raising two kids Gorse. It is our number that The the boys were skittish. They were ill at ease and Joe. My husband seemed you to be very distracted Busy doing other things. I just thought okay. We'll fix this. This is easy. I know how to do this. A little good love and a little good cook a few good jokes a little. You know mom stuff and we can fix this there. Little Room was just shabby. It was just a very understandable situation. But I went in at and painted a dresser and got the matching bedspreads and curtains. And all of this and surprise them when they got home They were almost in tears and they bragged about that to everybody met. I heard about it for years to me. It was just A. It's high time you guys had some curtains on the window. I just didn't realize how what a big deal to them and again it was. Somebody thought enough of us to do this. I was beginning to get the lay of the land by that time in my marriage and I was beginning to understand or or these little ones were coming from and that any little kindness struck them very very deeply for the first time you saw the facts of the violence yes probably early on my honeymoon. Nothing as overt as came later. When when did things start happening with the kids? Who ended you start seeing things up in the coupes? uh-huh early very early on. I noticed their behavior their response to their father and it got my attention. It struck me as awed but when he would call for them to come they would run. They would drop whatever they were doing and they would run and they would stand at attention like little soldiers very stiff. It was obvious to me they'd been taught to do that. That was how they responded when daddy called old and they would wait and sometimes it was just something very slight nigger. You know relax. They never knew if they were being called in to be reprimanded or just ask a simple question so that struck me I that they were so formal and trained and expectant of something harmful. Something violent when did you first had his kids. I don't remember I don't remember what it was four. It could happen yes I do. I think I think this might have been. The first he was. Joe was sitting at the end of a SOFA when Paul walked in from outside playing and Joe had had put his ink pen on the floor because he didn't want to risk getting ink on the Sofa Paul walked in and he saw the pin and he thought his dad had dropped it and so he picked it up and gave it back to him and Joe was concentrating on what was in the book and he just is all thanked me and he took the pin and and like he wasn't even thinking about it. Paul went in. I think he went to the bathroom and on the way back out the pin was back on the floor because Joa just absentmindedly. Put it back down and Paul just kind of grinned and he picked it up again and handed it back to his dad. No he said it down down on the couch next to his dad and this time Joe looked up and focused on what was happening and he slept the boy across the face with the back of his hand hard. Paul staggered backwards. The boy did the same thing twice once. He's thanked for it and the next time he was hidden face for it and Joe didn't say anything. He just went back to his studying. And Paul Peter just sort of walked out of the house real fast and that was you never knew you never knew when it was coming for wine Their father was violent. Man He was a very violent man and I still did not know the extent to which which that had been needed out on them and I was still at a point where I was making excuses and trying to rationalize that well he'd been under so much stress well his wife was sick and then she died and just trying to hold onto a reason to make this good and to you want this family. I was running out of excuses. Now he did have support and he did have someone to take care of the children and he did have all of of these things that he said had triggered his temper. I was getting very much afraid. That this wasn't circumstantial. This was just the man I hit married. Take over my head We'll be right back. Uh hurt three three behind. Start this segment with Joe's brother. Paul you know my dad was was pretty cool very cool very cool. He was very cool at a lot of times. And I I think I got the brunt of it because is my dad was the type of person at the time that really respected firmness. If he hits you strong and Joe brought strength back he respected. That Joe was giving him back strength. You know like Joe would give him back and you know he would get hit but joe would give him look back that type of thing and and you know odd is it seems. My Dad respected that because Joe was like you know strength versus because I powered and because I The emotional kid. He didn't respect that. So my dad really tore into me a lot more so than Joe because BBN emotional emotional. And so I was the one that got spit at. I was the one that got choked. I was the one that was told. You know really really horrible things. The boys handle the violence differently. Joey would try to talk his way out of it. He could charm his father. He could minimize the violence. He could minimize the discipline hall. Couldn't Paul just got scared started shaking and would run if he could. He ran away lots of times and would stay out overnight as a nine ten eleven year. Old Boy we had this storage ban right in back of the back door and one time I he stayed out all night and I found evidence that he had hidden in that cubicle. There was little the place where he had curled up to stay warm and I didn't mention it to him but I put a loaf of bread in tupperware container and I put the bread and a jar peanut butter in cubicle. So the next time he hid there he had something something to eat or he would junk out the bedroom window. And we're on the first floor but it was on a very high foundation. That was quite a drop remember. I found a milk crate a heavy duty plastic milk crate and I put it under the window and in the bushes so when Paul was running from the violence he wouldn't get hurt jumping out of the window. There's a story that's kind of embarrassing for me to share. But it's the type of home we lived in. I had growing up a I wanted to middle health issues. I would just say like emotional issues. I would just say that I was in emotional child. I lost my mother at eight by nine. I'd had a step mother who was is an amazing woman but I still had a void in my life and I had a father who started hitting me and I was of child who who who's main raw vein was fear. I was always afraid. I was always afraid of being hit. I was always always afraid of of what was going to happen. And I lived my life like that and Joe knew that Joe certainly knew that and I remember walking home Monday. I pooped my pants. Look really bad and I know what to do with like my underwear and it was like what the hell do you do you know. And how old are you too old not. Yeah like like I was in junior high and we walked like half home. Man Like people like people have figured out like man something taller but like I went home and I don't know why I did it man but like I I put like my dirty underwear. My Dad's navy peacoat in like the one of his pockets like the next day man next day my dad you know. Of course it's the next day and and it's super cold. He goes was out in the rain. And you know he needs Pico. It goes in my closet and gets it and then all of a sudden he comes bike. I get I get whip pretty bad and I ran away from home a lot and that it was one of the Times I ran away and Joel Beg me. No don't do it and I think that's the startling joe figuring out like he couldn't protect me and wanted to protect me but he could. Those are the early early stories of like job. Not being able to protect me I was considered a center. Bad Kid bad boy. Because I was starting to act up so I started ditching in school and I start lying and I started Pool of fire alarms and Eighth Grade Mike much in one week when I finally get caught and kicked out of school or suspended. You know I don't Tell my dad. In fact I tell the teachers. Don't call my dad. My Dad he beats us and I'm like okay. Well we're GonNa give me a note. Give it to your dad so that he can call us thank you I got wacked. The paddle and then sent home. I answer shown the note and for all week and my friends would come over and we'd Party at the House and then They would go and one time we stole a bunch girlie magazines from somewhere and We came home and one of my stupid friends. Route Torah Bunch of naked photos of you know these naked pictures of women an and showed them in our mailboxes. And so I- Dad comes home. He finds his naked thing in the mailbox and he decides to looking for porn in our room. He lives up the mattress. And what's right under the mattress. The no I don't no way but This I mean we should just start this whole podcast with all right. You're GonNa hear some really great stories but let's just establish fucking idiot mostly stories. Most kids probably would have thrown that not away anyway. The point is I get bussed in right there. beat the shit out of me man. He'll be three so bad. It was actually supposed to go to school the next day Brenda at that time was working for McLaren Hall. which is the place she was doing? She's such a great typist. She typed his reports while he's abused kids who were gained taken out of their homes and put a McLaren Hall to go into Foster Care Right and she was like you cannot announced the boys at school tomorrow. They have too many bruises on them. They'll be in trouble and you know like this. Get you in trouble. I'm like my ears perk up my way what I I think this is. This is a thing that not supposed to happen. You know. I thought this was what we were allowed. I- parents were allowed louder just punch on us. You know 'cause he's funny. When I told the school that had happened and I'm like okay? That happens Jim this note. They didn't call you know they didn't interrupt it anyway so it was just terrible for us and I mean remember i. He'd be good good with his fists was without. You know things but I remember being spanked so badly on my ass at one point he just went up like my my lower back. Had Bruises is on Welsh on. You know he was terrible with that stuff so I kind of go even even like it took me a while and she kept saying you can't go. Oh he can't do. They can't wear shorts though. Still see the FIS the bruise on the fives from the bone weapons As I said earlier I felt quite capable going into the marriage but very soon I felt overwhelmed and it was almost like me and Joey and Paul were children together and we were growing up together in trying to cope with this situation. We were all in the same boat it just covering for one another the guilt of knowing that I was deceiving a husband going behind his back that got brought to me. But what what how do you. How do you choose your loyalty to a husband? Your ideas your assumptions about marriage or these little boys who were being abused and then I went to work at Mclaren Hall and found out it was more serious than even even I thought. Mclaren Hall is the Center for Dependent Children Not Delinquent so children were brought navy. Either parents had been arrested and they just had to have a place to stay while a foster home was found but the vast majority of them were there because they were being abused. I was Basically basically typing up court documents for these children who were brought there and now I was writing up things that matched what was going on in my home. I was shocked. I was shocked. This was against the law. The social social workers would write up in sync points. What had gone on in the home? Electrical cords beatings with pool. Cues the push-up position. -sition things that I thought just happened in my home. It was against the law and often say it was the father who was abusing thing if the mother knew about it and did not step in to help her children. She was prosecuted to that struck me very hard I was was held legally responsible. I was doing what I could on a personal level to come between them and their father but I found found out. That wasn't enough. The law said No. You're not no you. You've got choices to make lady so after you after you find that out like how did your behavior of your change. I think I got a little bit. More confronted with my husband and things really started to go downhill at kept point from the violence worse violence to the children. And because he was losing control that spiraled Downward spiral and it got more and more serious and I decided to go for now. You're listening to the score season one. The bank robber diaries. This has been episode for the wolf and the sheep per one. We've we've been getting really great response from people who've been listening to the show lots of great reviews in the apple podcast APP. If you haven't left review yet please go there and do that It's a really great way for us to get feedback about the show and we do know that there are still some people who haven't heard it so share with your friends also on Instagram at the score dot podcast best and we have a website the score podcast dot. Co executive producers are in their Joe. Loya Veronica Taylor and Suzy Warhurst. Producers Are Cameron Cal. Haley Fox and Stephanie Miller original composition and sound design is by Dan Leone production assistance from an run health mixing by John. Evans Vince Evans. Next up is episode. Five the Wolfson sheep part to stay tuned UH.

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Science is here to save Halloween

Make Me Smart with Kai and Molly

16:25 min | 8 months ago

Science is here to save Halloween

"Hey all I'm Eddie Murphy's host of the marketplace podcast. This is uncomfortable. Halloween is coming up and what better way to celebrate than with stories about financial decisions that still haunt you. Like, say that time your mom caught you over drafting your bank account on adult websites and I suddenly realized that one of these things this Mr Skin Dot com and thirty dollars a month. New episode of this is uncomfortable drops Thursday you can listen wherever you hear podcasts. SEAMY. Pick my nose I hope. Okay so hello. Hello I'm Ali would welcome back to make me smart. It's happy hour Friday or is economics economics on tap as we like to call it it's also the day before Halloween and this right here is as close as I'm going to get to a work Halloween party. Chi is also in costume. Right, asshole SARS. That's just a little. It sounds a little bit sounds a little. Well, you know I mean it's true. It's true. I know Chi is dressed up as Cairo's on your day Cairo's doll. Yes. CHIARA's doll radio personality on Beard Day that's what I got. That's what I got a show on a speaking of beer day. I have a new one. It's a new wave. It's a new save from the dust bowl of brewing company. Sorry Turlock California, the therapist imperial. Came on. That is the most appropriate beer name. No. Twenty. Lake. That's Good Did it exists before this vs Crazier oh? Yeah. No, it did. It did it. This has been around since two thousand something. But at Jimmy. That's also. Outstanding eyebrow mining everything the porter that also happens to have the Halloween. Label founders porter. Lovely. Absolutely. Lovely. and. Of course, those those of you who are watching us now in the Youtube. Know that we're live on youtube right now and. I was GONNA ask what drinking but for some reason, everyone's talking about the hair. And my costume shows of you who are listening to this leader should know that five minutes before the show. I scampered upstairs to my costume box like every good mom has and dugout my cruella Deville wig jacket. 'cause this Halloween come on. We need something we need something say there is the Teensy bit of love from you not dressing up on the comments. That's all I'm saying. Yeah so The Way? Well the appeal to everyone. That's right. That's something for everyone in the show. Yes And what is GonNa be in the show today is a little bit of news a little bit of commentary the State of affairs I regret to inform you by the way I do not have a make me smile. There was just there was nothing that. I did a couple of wrecks videos, but that seemed a little too easy. So I'm GonNa, you know weaned myself off of those. But you have to be with you. That's how that's how that goes. I'm GONNA climb right in and I will do my usual Friday thing which is the early vote statistics which are kind of amazing I'm sure. You've already heard this today since people have been picking up on this since well, of course, we've been doing for the past month. Harris County Texas one of the really began he's down there. Has. Hit. It's two thousand and sixteen total in the entire state of Texas is at one hundred point, six percent of its two thousand, sixteen turn out the state of Hawaii hundred and four and a half percent I mean it's kind of amazing. WHO's turning? Well, let me rephrase that it's kind of amazing how many people are turning out. It's just it's extraordinary. It's extraordinary. I'm so transfixed by this map and this trend. I am too and frankly delighted to see Americans vote. You know if nothing else. That is that is a that's a good thing that seems like good news. Because it's our democracy to lose for. Sure. Yup. Geeking out about the mask with a map and Get away from this map. Okay Anyway. So my second item if I may since I started, so I might as well. Finish is related in a way to the turn out there was a piece in the Washington Post. Today I believe it's today and if not doesn't matter. About the lived experience of Comma Harris. and what it will mean as she conceivably becomes the vice president of the United States and it starts with an anecdote. And I'm just GonNa read it to. at some point and Kamala Harris his life somebody has instructed her to carry her keys like a weapon when she walks to her car someone has said get them out of your purse before you leave the grocery store, arranged them between your fingers and if somebody attacks you aim for the face. And that is a lived experience that come Harris and millions and millions of women have. But that no vice president of the United States has ever had. And I know we talked in two thousand, sixteen a lot. About Hillary Clinton and and this is gonNA sound sexist. But I I don't mean to. We talked a lot about how she looked right and what she wore and how long it took her to do her makeup when she had to go out and the fact that trump only had to roll out of bed and throwing a Tien Comas, hair it whatever and. At the time that took. But I think this now has become a more substantive discussion of. The differences in perspective and experience that women. Will Bring. and I found this article really limiting and I know every woman out there saying, of course you moron, can you be more male privileged? But look. At you know. I'm trying anyway. I just read this piece. It's really good. Tony's going to show US Yeah. Well I'm glad to reading it. Hopefully you're no one's beating you up too much. It's good. Will and look. That's fair. No Didn't interview today sorry little engineer. I didn't hear you today with a woman who had written an article for the Financial Times. About what cities would look like if women designed them. And at some point in that piece, there was a line that just. It it was. It just smacked me. It was like. All of our. Cities. For Millennia. have been designed by and for able bodied men. Right In your God, of course. Of course and Arcata ruin your bags, right? Right right right. Right. Right. Right. All that stuff and and you know. Yeah. Yeah. I think like everybody arrives at knowledge at different times. I'm kind of aided by the concept of information delay overall like who arrives and what information and when and this column feels like a piece of that information and the only I think ultimately, the only thing that matters is a willingness to take in the information as opposed to like This isn't real or this doesn't matter. Yeah. I have been seeing a lot of stories about how she harris is being subject to I mean not just the willful and constant mispronunciation of her name. But also Oh, mathematically more disinformation than Mike Pence's like dramatically more personal. Disinformation attacks and like there is not a woman in America. Who isn't sitting there going? Yeah I know the reason. To, the tube you see. Yeah Yeah Right. The two reasons. Did you see the the sixty minutes last week the one that trump walked out of, but they also had biden and Harrison. Yeah. So the amazing thing and the only reason I saw this is because my nineteen year old son is actually a seventy year old man and likes to watch sixty minutes every weekend. and. That's true. But. Anyway. So there was a there was A. A Donald did the interview with with Comma Harris. And Kamala Harris said in essence I'm going to bring a different perspective to. The vice presidency and to this administration as I helped you biden govern the country when we win she said And Nora Donald said with a straight face. Is that a socialist or progressive agenda. And I'm like are you kidding me? What, how do you even? Yeah. I mean. That whole episode was like. Two men being taken seriously in one woman not being taken seriously. I mean look. The Patriarchy is institutional, which is why it can also come from women. And in that case, it did like I hate to hate to beat up on my former colleagues at CBS. But it was that was pretty infuriating interview. What are you got? Ironically, that's so funny because the three stories I brought all have one thing in common three, three three. Histories. So you have stories and to make themselves you got five. You've really. Missed yesterday's so. A lot to make up. For Okay fine. needed. and needed to. Get all in there. So for the past couple of weeks, arguably since the Times started reporting on President Trump's tax returns there has been a steady dribble at this late stage in the game of stories about corruption in the White House. And You know not least of which is the one from just yesterday about how apparently commerce secretary will for Ross stayed on board of A. Venture more got. Yeah. Yeah. Wow running the trade war. So. was deeply intertwined with the Chinese, business yeah. Yeah. There was also a remarkable story in The Washington Post on the twenty seven th that just sorta went right by about how much money president trump's companies have gotten paid over the last four years up to and including charging United States tax payers for. Like glasses of water. There was a story also yesterday about how essentially Turkish president type or one was sorry. Receptor to one was like let off the hook you in a bunch of different ways because the trump because president trump had business interests in Turkey. And so on and so forth. These are stories that are coming out now and I have often said in the course of this administration like. Is Not partisan to investigate corruption. It's been very interesting me to watch. The. Media and I understand that this is like a tricky situation in which we find ourselves because we are that and And I will say we could have been doing it to for the last four years right? There has been no end. Of Stories that could have been written about seven self-dealing and where taxpayer money went i. mean the one that just blew my mind. The other day was the one about the two hundred and fifty million dollars that was going to be spent on a on a basically pro-trump propaganda campaign to defeat around the corona virus in which they created mccarthyesque blacklist of celebrities based on among other things whether or not they supported gay marriage. Like taxpayer money funded a blacklist. In which people were disqualified for supporting gay marriage. And it's just been very interesting to me. I guess the comment here is like I'm really. It's interesting to me to see. These, newspapers try to catch up on four years of corruption stories in two in the last two weeks before an election in which. In many states, more people have now already voted. Then voted in two thousand sixteen. Like, this has been an entertainment presidency. Yes. Mr Taliban. Okay got nothing. You got to pick your best shot unlimited. All right. Well, I'M GONNA. Go I will say in very very brief good job the New York Times because they made this whole interactive thing for election stress relief like Oh have you voted? Yes. Here's some calming things and like puppies and. Like nature videos, it is delightful. I watched it a bunch this morning. It's wonderful. But the best part is if the if you go and say you're over eighteen and you haven't voted, it just kicks you out. Subtle No. Effective. Did you give Toro for that. Says you suck. Yeah exactly. Like get. Get after. And then thank you to science because science has done the work in a study published yesterday the Journal Systems Research at the University of California San. Diego School of Medicine and San Diego State, university analyzed the viral load of covid of coronavirus on Halloween. Candy. got a bunch of people who are sick with covid nineteen to handle a bunch of candy to senior. No Lake, IT NO ORLEANS, put it in a bowl and then see what happened and they were like look. As with everything in life, the risk is not zero. But if you wash your hands before you handle the candy and then when you take the candy home, give a little white ski, the risk is very low. Irish was detected on only ten percent of candies handled after hand washing. So everyone who's GonNa put out candy in a bowl on their side walk away from the front door like I'm going to wash your hands i. Anyway. I appreciate it. I appreciated the of science. Halloween for at least chiltern. Honestly it's at this point. Science is GONNA save us because we're clearly not going to save ourselves. That's that's all I got. That's all that. Geez man to make me smile part. No, it's good. Good. It was good. It was good. It was good. Good. All right. All right. All right. All right. That's it. We're. Somewhere. And in whatever next week is what we are. In the meanwhile send your answers to make me smart. No. Send your answers to the question, which is, of course, as a reminder. What is something? You thought you knew later found out, you were wrong about email us make me smart marketplace dot org voicemails preferred emails accepted. Accepting Because we have. Been You. Know I love it. Well, they're good to make me Sparta's produced and directed by Mercy Cabrera. Tony Wagner is our digital producer Ben Heck Co producer video with the help of. Video intern extraordinary ethan parents who would never lick the candy. 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The Dems will flip two GOP House seats in California

It's All Political

26:20 min | 2 years ago

The Dems will flip two GOP House seats in California

"Welcome to. It's all political the San Francisco Chronicle's political podcast. I'm Joe garafolo, the chronicle senior political writer and today on the podcast we are talking midterms specifically those hot midterm races. Those house races in California that people have been hearing about for more than a year. My guest is the big, man. John wilderness. The veteran chronicle political writer, my colleague and primary at the chronicle. He just spent a lot of time in Orange County, which is the center of the political universe. Yes. Believe it. And I spent some time in the central valley specifically places like pearla and the Destot and then tica which is getting a ton of political attention right now, we talk about the midterms next on it's all political. Hey, guys, Joe here if you like political podcasts, you might like to check out opinion central. That's the one crafted by my buddy, John D S is the editor aerial page editor of the San Francisco Chronicle he and all his pals and the ivory tower here at the chronicle talk to the big newsmakers of the day. They talk about the big issues of the day, and it's really smart and educational, and it's actually fun for being smart educational check it out opinion central on apple podcast or wherever you obtain your podcasts. John wilder. Welcome back to it's all political. Always a pleasure. The big man is in the house. We've spent the last several days in California in parts of California where there are hotly. Contested house races house races. That could flip the congress to the Democrats or leave it in the hands of the Republicans. It's a reminder that the world doesn't end at the bay area. Borders. In fact, we largely irrelevant in this in the house races. You were in southern California, Orange County. Tell us where you were first of all I was in Orange County for three days last week all around in. There's four congressional districts that where Hillary Clinton actually won a majority in two thousand sixteen and they are held by Republicans. And they are Democrats are looking to flip them. So I was in Irvine Costa Mesa Fullerton. Yorba Linda, the whole. Round Robin of beautiful southern California, Orange County. Excellent. And I was in the central valley. I was specifically in the district that is represented by Jeff Dunham. He's a four-term congressman there, and I was in the lovely confines of turlock and Modesto and Banta, which I didn't even know where that was kind of near Tracy, and and Mantica and places like that. Okay. So let's get right to it. What of these four districts down? They're checking out which ones are the most flippable. And which ones are the least flippable probably the ones that the Republicans are most likely lose is California forty nine and that's a it's now going to be an open seat. It's currently held by Republican Darrell Issa, but he announced his retirement he especially announced his retirement after winning reelection by just a couple thousand votes last time, probably. Sided it wasn't worth making a try. But that's a that's a district that straddles. The Orange County San Diego County border and Mike Levin is the democrat running against Diane. Hark is a member of the state board of equalization, and it hasn't gone well for hockey, the she doesn't have the money that Levin has doesn't have the backing and you'd like to say that the Republican party has pulled their support for. But they never had it there in the first place they've old zero they pulled zero that looks like a pretty good democratic pickup. The other districts. There's Harley rotas the democrat running against a long time longtime Republican number fifteen term. Dana Rohrabacher on. That's the coastal runs. All down the coast of Orange County of then. Not one look like, do you think that we're gonna pull that out? The polls are pretty tight. Now. It's an interesting race. Because. Robak is one of kind. I mean, I did I went to event he had with senior citizens Bush bussed in from what used to be leisure world to a cannabis dispensary in Santa Ana where they could look in at their vaporisers and T's and everything else, and he stood up and shook everybody's hand and told them why marijuana should be totally legalized in California. He's been he was out front of marijuana. When it wasn't cool. He is been there for a long time on the other hand. He's also. Tons of stuff involved in the Russian investigation. Purportedly Putin and the Russians have their own code name for him. And he's a one of a kind person and surfer is free. Yes. Who's also in favor of oil rigs off the coast, which would hurt the surfing someone bundle of contradictions. He is. And he's running against Harley rota who's a wealthy former real estate investor, and what's he like as a candidate? Is he have any kind of charisma yet wrote a has a lot of charisma? He's a salesman. Like, he's got a good look to him. He's former Republican who said he turned independent because he didn't agree with the party, and he gets out there. But the problem is is that, you know. Dan, ROY backers been there for fifteen terms thirty years, he grew up in the area. He's known in the area and a lot of people. There are going to find it hard to vote against him. He wins. Last year. He he wins like by double digits. He doesn't even just win. He wins. Like, he's like Barbara Lee winning. You know, like like ten fifteen points every time. Yeah. The problem. He's got though is that he's always one that Wayne is never really faced a hard race. And he hasn't ran money before. And this one is a very hard race. And he is being outraged by the max he hasn't taken in much money. And it's just a matter of who shows up on election day on this one are the Democrats in that district to win. Would it be the Democrats Democrats into there are not enough Democrats to win anything in Orange County? Howsoever? What's been changing a lot in the county is non-par no party preference voters declined to state's independence a lot of the voters. And especially lot of the young voters are moving into that in saying not so many words a plague on both your parties, and these there was a blog post by Mark Baldassare the other day in. In the peop-, the public policy institute of California. And what he said is that these numbers are going berserk as far as declined to state voters go, and that these are in many cases, democrat leaning voters, certainly again, those all those four district went for Hillary and Orange County. It self went for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump. There hasn't been a person on the top of the ticket in twenty years. A Republican ticket. They haven't voted for the last time. They voted for a Republican for democrat in a presidential race was Franklin Roosevelt in nineteen thirty six. So it's a sea-change in that county right now. But it's still it's still the racism second, Orange County is still would you found is a fundamentally conservative place. I mean, I it's it's still a place like on statewide ballot measures they on on stuff like plastic bag bans. They, you know, they don't go for all this bay area. It's still a conservative. A lot of conservative people. Sure. But again, this is in your grandfather's, Orange County. I mean, if you look since in just the past, you know, since two thousand the number of Republicans has dropped from forty nine percent to thirty six percent, while the Democrats have gone up a couple of notches. No party preference has gone from fourteen to twenty seven. But the other thing if you look at this stuff is the demographics white and the number of whites in the county since between two thousand and two thousand seventeen dropped from fifty one percent to forty one percent. Latinos have gone up from thirty one to thirty four percent Asians from fourteen to twenty one percent. These are younger voters there in many cases, first time or second time voters, and they are not the the sort of midwest transplants that made Orange County grow and these voters of color, these new voters are they predominantly voting for Democrats. They're predominantly voting for Democrats. They are sure it you get the the people that came over the Vietnamese came over the boat people in the early seventies or late seventies. In many cases, they were strongly anticommunist and that brought them directly to the Republican party. But Democrats in the county are pretty much like Democrats and the rest of our I'm sorry Latinas in the county are pretty much like Latinos and the rest of the state, they they they trend democratic the newer Asian voters also trend democratic a younger voters trend democratic it's tough times for the Republicans statewide and also in Orange County and those for those first generation Vietnamese voters may have been anticommunist and hardline Republican. But their kids are not their kids to large extent of forgotten the Vietnam war like all kids their age and such. So the stuff that was really important. They're folks in this important to them. So we have to other races in Orange County that your checking out down there. One involves it's it's another open seat. And tell us about that Gilles narrow democrat versus young Kim Republican former state assembly, that's the thirty ninth district in its way up in the northern part of the part of the county of Fullerton area Yorba, Linda places like that interesting. It was Ed Royce was the congressman from there for years Republican and he retired this year. Also because one reason is like everybody else he knew he was going to face a tough race, and who needs it young Kim was a an assembly woman for two years and then lost in two thousand sixteen but the real key here is that for twenty years. She was an aide to Royce and worked in his office in in the county. She knows everybody. Everybody knows her. And it's one of those districts where the per gilson's narrows who's running the democrat running against her is trying to tie her desperately to Trump people. They're saying she's Trump's apprentice everything she's always done has been like him. She would be instant vote for him. Whereas when you talk to her she said this election is local people know me, they know I want to do good things for this district. I've been in here a long time. And you know, it's about the stuff that we can get not about the national issues not about Trump. And it's going to be interesting to see how that plays out. What do you think what's your calling out one? Do you think that that young Kimble's out? I think probably she does. But the wildcard there in the wild card. Everyone out everywhere else is who shows up on election day. The Democrats are working to get in the what they call the occasional voters the ones that typically only show up a presidential race. These are renters they're young people. They're less wealthy people. And if they can get those out if they can make this turnout general election, turn and not a midterm out. They're in good shape. And we're going to sound like a broken record for the next few minutes talking about turnout and who turns out, but that is the case the track record in term elections is dreadful for for Democrats in general and specifically for people call our young voters. So that's why we keep repeating this. And that's going to be the case all the time. We were we were trying to figure out as everyone else. Is all this enthusiasm. We see on on TV and online and everywhere else have been writing about is that actually translate into votes. It's a it's a hard one to say what the Democrats are hoping is they want it would like to make all these elections about Donald Trump because Donald Trump is, you know, a very unpopular person in California. I mean, if you even Orange County, you know, the numbers are against Trump. So if you can say this person is going to be Donald Trump and a vote for a re a vote for a democrat in one of these midterm races vote against Donald Trump. Well, that's a good thing. They bring those voters out, and they have a real good chance of winning some of these races. However, if it's the same as it always is, you know, midterms go Republican. You have one final race to talk about their which we haven't covered, which is the we hit. This will be the forty forty fifth congressional district where Republican Mimi Walters. His the is in there again favorite of the California Democratic party. She calls herself sisters brother and sister with Kevin McCarthy, the house majority leader. Yes, feels her. She's been it's she's a Republican and she's running as a Republican. What's not going to help her so much is that she is also been a Trump supporter? Total Trump supporter. She's also been. Is on the wrong side of a lot of environmental issues as far as Democrats are concerned has actually been in favor of oil drilling off the Orange County coast, which is one of those things that. That is crosses party lines to a large extent, she's running the democrat minute against her is Katie porter who's a UC Irvine law. Professor, and what's really interesting is. She is a very very progressive UC Irvine law. Professor she's been involved in a lot of consumer consumer actions against the banking industry. And and that and when comma Harris wanted to get the payoff from the banks several years ago for the during the housing crisis. She turned to Katie porter to help her figure out how much the banks should correct, right. But the thing is, okay. Maybe maybe Orange County's ready to elected democrat. But are they really ready to elect a progressive democrat who talks about Medicare for all and everything else like that? And that's the question. Yeah. One of her first endorsements was from Senator Elizabeth Warren, which the Republicans have just handed Vichy, we're at we're in. That was one of her law school professors was Elizabeth Warren and Elizabeth Warren is very they're very close. So you're not sure if Orange County they met maybe transitioning to be more a purple place, but maybe not that blue. Well, what's interesting, though, is that just now this election sure in two thousand sixteen but two thousand eighteen is a presidential election. We're Democrats typically do better and typically bring out the p twenty twenty twenty. I'm sorry, bring out more people and beyond that twenty twenty two is reapportionment. So people are going to be running in new districts that would to an extent certainly represent the the changing forces in Orange County. So if the Democrats win in this this year in November next month, they could hold those seats for an awful long time. And what did you sense before we move on? I just wanted to a couple of words about where I was in denim district. And there you. Have you have one of the factors? You're talking about his running against Trump Josh harder whose former venture capitalist. He grew up in turlock. He spent like six months or so living in San Francisco, but yet he denim calls. Him beary a harder. And he says air Francisco democrat an- Francisco democrat, he denim is essentially running against San Francisco, if if everyone's running try and time people to Trump he's running against Cisco. The commercials are. One of them features harder and Nancy Pelosi and a car spewing money out of the back and L the bay and he has raised a ton of money from the bay area. And at the same time. Denim is taking the so far that when he was asked at a debate a few weeks ago, if he believed that believe that climate change was man made he said, he declined to say that. But he said it was bay area made. Come on, dude. You know, what's interesting. All these candidates have in common for the Democrats. None of them have ever in for office before these are all rookies, and you know, the argument and what they're saying. If you ask them, they all spew the party line, which is after the two thousand sixteen election. I realized I had to get involved and everything, but they're also looking at the part that poll after poll after poll, incumbents aren't popular people do not like Wade government is going Republicans and Democrats alike, and they won't say, let's see new blood. That's what brought Trump in as a matter of fact, and there's no nothing to indicate that the people of changed their views. The you know, I'm always been dubious about people who never had previous office holding experience. Let me not so much for for a house seat. But when you get the Senate and certainly running for president or governor, you'd wanna see someone who knows the biz. At some level. But that's out the window now. And this is gonna be a real test to see if know. It's sort of another. Effect of the Trump presidency. Just one other thing to add is they may be rookies at running for office. But they have just raised absolutely amazing amounts of money. I mean when race we haven't talked about Andrew Janse who's running in Fresno area against the Republican Devin Nunes has raised more than four million dollars, and that's an incredible amount for any congressional race. And it's even more for race where he is the longest of longshots to take out a very popular Republican. I want to make a quick note of racist. We're not discussing here, and we're not gonna be writing about because they are look less flippable, shall we say what of them would be the Januzzi as race. Another would be the valejo TJ Cox race where the Democrats have pulled money from that. And the other one is the fiftieth with Duncan Hunter, Duncan Hunter. Running down there even though he's under indictment. It's such a strong Republican district that it's very very hard for a democrat to make inroads. And when we haven't mentioned is the twenty fifth congressional district on the very edges of of the desert areas of Los Angeles County, where democrat Katie hill is running against Republican Steve Knight, and that should be very close rate. That will be a close race. We're brought writing about this. And we're also not writing about Tom McClintock, which he looks like he's going to be reelected against Jessica Morris, another first time candidate, and so we we will not be discussing this. And if they come in and win, well, well, we will be eating crow right here. Okay. So what did you see? We we've heard about all this grassroots energy. I certainly saw it in in terms of all places three hundred sixty nine people gathering for just one of the canvassing expeditions going on there. This a lot of the the swing left. The local groups the Democratic Party all these people. There was tons of volunteers there to go knock on doors and turlock, and again, many of these people as congressman Dan would be fun to pointing out we're from the bay area. What did you see in Orange County in terms of that kind of grassroots energy? Well, which certainly saw were a lot of young people in I went to rallies, and by Cisneros and Katie porter, and they had a lot of young people there a lot of them working phones. It wasn't a wasn't a walk day. But a lot of were a lot of them were doing the work that needs to be done around the headquarters you on I was at a Rohbock event, and what he had at this one at least was a storefront and Laguna gal. But he had the head of the that's that's pricey store. That's pricey storefront. But what he had was the head of the Republican National Committee. He had Jim Breuil t the head of the state Republican party and a lot of leaders like that. But when you look inside it was a lot older crew. A lot of people that had been doing this for a long time. A lot of what you would call old Orange County. And you know, it's old white mostly white people. Yeah. Though, I don't like the old saying older older mature. Yes, mature again. It was a very different vibe. And it was they were making the call. Sure and everything else like that. But it just felt different. It felt very much. Like the sort of stuff you'd seen in years before. And they wasn't the same bus load that went to the dispensary. They didn't take them back after that to make calls. I didn't actually be some some good calls. One call for someone would stay on a call for like hours just one person just chatting just chatting. All right. If you had to this is one of the final weeks of by the way, there's a good time to plug are stories that will be running and Sunday chronicle. And so after that after the stories appear they'll be one weekend left before election day, if you were to make one suggest people make one road trip, whether you're publican or a democrat where would you go to affect change in a house race, eighteen Republican or democrat? I think I would send him to Jeff denims district down in down in the central valley road trip to Modesto, absolutely. Because you know, that's one thing. We're turn out is absolutely going to shape it. I mean two years ago. He ran a close race against a candidate that wasn't as well funded and in situation that wasn't as democrat leaning is today. So it's one they definitely have to hang onto not remember one thing. We haven't mentioned is that the reason this is important is because if Democrats can turn twenty three seat. It's anywhere in the United States anywhere across the country. They take control of the house, and they make Donald Trump's life miserable for the next two years with investigations and everything else if Republicans can hold them to even one lesson that twenty two they've still got control. So every single one of these races is maker break for the parties. So if I'm a democrat, or if I'm a Republican that wants wants to make a change in wants to do something you have to go out and try and knock on doors and everything else. So if you're a betting man, and I know you are you are horse player sends parallel. If you how many seats would you bet what's the over under? We'll go with the we'll go with gambling terms. What's the over under on seats that Democrats will flip in California towards those Twenty-three? I'd say two. Agree with you too in if it was three or if it was one it wouldn't surprise me. But I, you know, talk their talk about well, we have seven seats that we're going to take and maybe three others that would that would be a change. Yes. But that that seems change that likely isn't going to happen, right? I think the person making that change might have been at the dispensary. Dana. All right. Big, man. Thank you so much for being on. Always glad we will see we will return again election night. I'm sure in this in this small room with the seventeen people around the table and talking about how we were wrong. How about how we were wrong? I'd like to thank you for listening to today's podcast. And and you've got some travel tips about where to go on your your weekend adventure to canvas. And thank the big, man. John wilder for being my guest today at like the end of the as the chronicles managing editor for digital for producing this podcast because whether you're in Modesto or your Belinda, it's all.

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Brandi & Danny Graves: Collaboration as Savage Sublime

Committed: The Entrepreneur Marriage

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Brandi & Danny Graves: Collaboration as Savage Sublime

"Hi i'm cathy. Rushing host of the podcast committed the entrepreneur marriage. If you're middle name is restless and you identify with words like innovator dreamer change maker creative independent or you are married to an entrepreneur or heaven. Hell pugh you're both entrepreneurs this podcast is for you. The entrepreneurial journey can be a little wild at times. Like uncharted territory. Join me as i talk with others. Who are at various stages of the entrepreneur process will explore the wisdom and insights they have gained while navigating the ups and downs of the entrepreneur's journey. You'll discover that there are many couples who have found ways to thrive in both their business and marriage savage sublime is the husband wife. Do of brandy and danny grades. They create artifacts that you will actually use in your everyday life but are sturdy enough to become heirlooms brandy makes these beautiful cutting boards from the trees on their property and sebastian poll california. You should see that woman work with power tools. Dan makes and curates historical. Viking axes and world war two knives together they collaborate to create a life and home that honors the beauty of simple things. Listen for the important legacy of their fathers how they teach their children about business and creativity and how collaboration connects them and keeps them dreaming. I can't wait for you to make this delightful couple. I absolutely loved this interview with them and you can find links to their website and instagram page in the show notes. Hey brandy and dan graves. I'm so happy to have you on the program today. How are you guys doing good. Good welcome thank you for making time and taking time out of your busy day at the point you want to good. We want to take some time just to let the audience get to know you a little bit. Tell us where you live. We are in sebastian california. So it's sonoma's county where about twenty miles from like this anoma coastline about an out like the. I've heard this recently in california. We say we. We called distance by long. It takes to get places. I don't think this is everybody does it. But we're about an hour north of san francisco. Okay very good well. I've seen some of the pictures on your instagram post. And it is beautiful. There's something about the the woods in the northwest. There's so deep and rich and moss hanging in growing on the. What did they call. The trees fall down that then become fertilizer for other trees. There's all the whole ecosystem constantly evolving around here. Every winter will hear a loud crash somewhere on the robbery and that process will be starting itself. So we're familiar with it. Although i don't ever know the terminology yeah well. What led you guys to that area. Well we are actually. Were both from california. Where from the central valley and when we got married. I was going to school at the san francisco art institute and dan was working over here so we came over to the bay area at never really expecting to be here as long as we have been which is almost four years and only move. We knew he didn't wanna live in san francisco proper. I lived there before. And dan didn't want to live there. Specifically we wanted to live in a bit of a more rural environment road. Were kind of both kind of naturally rural. We were both raised out in the country. And i think this was sonoma's county kind of the fit for people who work in san francisco and want to escape the urban jungle. So i we're we're probably pretty common story for people getting out of the city proper and being out in the. Yeah it's commutable you're not you're you're you're just far enough away over the bridge that you're not a part of the whole bay area probably driving and yeah fills like a world away. And how long have you guys been married for recording this in march of twenty twenty one so at this point how many years. Well we are up on twenty in october. I just twenty october shocking. Time does go by so were just babies when we got married old were you. When dan acted thirty we were. We were really young. But i mean time goes by. I feel still young. Do my twenty years of buying. You know fifty sneaking up on me i. i don't know. I don't feel any different than i did when i was fifteen. So that is that is true. I feel a little different than fifteen. Maybe but my mind is stuck at about forty. You know that's where i see myself. And then i look in the mirror and i'm like nope not forty this funny. Yeah i picked up from some of your posts that you guys met though pretty young. How old were you when you met and tell us a little bit about how you met. We're from the same hometown. We didn't know each other growing up. But we met when i close together that we didn't know each other growing up but i think are are like you know this is we live kind of a lifestyle in the central valley that i think is probably not super common anymore but i kind of grew up in the same house for the first eighteen years of my life in and brandy for a huge chunk of hers and our homes that we grew up in. Were what two miles apart with remote support. Yeah so we're both from turlock california which is right in the heart of central valley on when we were kids. It was a big You know agricultural community which still it is but it's it's expanded significantly since we were kids so both of our families have had been there for a couple of generations and lots of crossover that we knew but we didn't. We didn't know each other. We went to different schools. And then we met when i was eighteen. I was actually just leaving to go to college. And dan was leaving to go to law school and we met like righted that little period of time and and dan wanted to date me immediately. But we mark man i. I knew that. I wanted to marry her from the moment. Ice are seriously yeah. I just knew i just you know what sometimes you know and i just never gave up. Yeah i'll my head. You dated much dan or no. No no you know. No not really. I was I guess. I was kinda socially awkward. Yeah so so so we met. And i you know we were instant friends and i thought dan was really smart and really liked the like magnetic and but it would be proper for a longtime. He went to law school. I went to college. He was in the army and we we would kind of connect back and forth over time and then with two thousand that we was at two thousand two thousand one another one that we like reconnected. And got married two months later so i think i was. I was kind of like back from done. A bunch of pretty extensive military training. So i've been. I've been back in north carolina and you've been living in san francisco and we had this summer the summer of two thousand one where i was back in turlock and she was back interlock and actually her sister and brother-in-law invited us to attend a concert opener concert together. And they said hey bradley's going you want to go. And i said yes of course joe i was. I was thirty at that time. You were twenty six and we. It just have to be right in july. And i wanna say we were. We got the we got together and decided to get married right away and then got married in october. And and but nine eleven had just happened in seventeen. Her and dan was in the national guard and was what is it called stop lock. Is that the yeah loss. So he like with gone our entire. I like we. We got together got married and like three months later. We were married and he was gone weird first year really because we didn't live together fulltime until about two thousand three. I went to afghanistan in early. Mido to yvonne arnaud the sacrifices you military families pay. I have a couple of nephews that are ones air force and one is navy and it is we appreciate so much the sacrifices that the family makes because it it impacts everybody kind of like the entrepreneur life right so that that is really fast two months. How did you guys know that you were the others forever. Person will like. I said i'd known for eight years so it was it was really funny It was really funny. Because i remember like after that concert. We're talking and she said we'll will be it. I mean i can't. I can't be your girlfriend. I mean it's just i. I'm not going to be your girlfriend. And i said well i love you and and it's like and then we just kinda we started kind of going out We were doing a couple more times after that. I don't know how to describe it. Just scarf went off. In my mind's right and i just i just knew also though you know. Here's the thing that i think it's lost in in relationships. A lotta times moderately is like we had so much shared context. So you know what i told my dad. Hey i i'm gonna marry brandy. He said oh well you know. I knew her grandfather and i knew her rape uncle. And you know. I think kind of growing up in that same relatively small town kind of added a certain certain security in the fact that these two families joining was a very natural thing it was kind of our people were kind of the same people. Context is such a huge thing. That i think a lot of kids. Just don't don't have in the same way now. They don't have as they might crossover. You can't like the vet the people in the same way so yeah yeah i think it's a real blessing and over all these years it's also just been awesome because our families are from the same place so it's made holidays and not a lot. You know that is so nice and that that is a really interesting perspective. You know now that. I think of it because i moved around a lot growing up. We move some but our kids. Yeah so it. It is almost an exception anymore that you have that growing up experience and so much in common. I mean what. We know about healthy relationships. It is very unusual anymore to find two people that grew up in the same area and so to your point of having a lot in common and we know that a lot of long term marriages are long term. because there's there's a lot of overlap in different areas you know common interests common faith common like you said i mean how. Cool that year dad. Dan new brandies grandfather. I think that's awesome. So that's that's a cool perspective. What are three words that you would use to describe the other one. I mean i. You know brandy is compassionate. I i think much more so than i am. But she's very compassionate and empathetic. She's beautiful mama. And then i think the third word is one that she's kind of utilized. I think in a in a couple of posts but feisty. I i think we both got a certain amount of feistiness is one word for it. But i think you could also say kind of determination She's she's got a lot of rich. So those are my three. And i think i think i think pretty well. I got that pretty good. I didn't prep that of okay. I for dan is loyal. I think that in Just i think like what like one of his like absolute core values than he lives it out in his life. And i think it's a character trait that i don't know kinda sometimes gets lost in the shuffle these days so i really admire that about him. He's enthusiastic. He's definitely energetic and enthusiastic in game for almost anything. And i i think he really can be credited. I mean not not only in all the different like aspects of his life. But he's really good at keeping morale up in our family which i really appreciate. It's a huge. That's a huge big deal. Yeah and i think he's roic to. I think he is self sacrificing and heroic and now that was four but heroic and self sacrificing kind of the same so well. I don't care if you do five. I think that's wonderful. To have more words than you can describe those really good and when you say heroic and i think the family but you guys have how. Many kids three three kids. How old are they teen henry. Our oldest he's sixteen. Joe is thirteen and inga. Is ten almost eleven. But i'm going to be in denial real fake and we'll stay ten for another week or two. Yeah for the next ten years you know. Yeah very good. What is a book or a person that has influenced maybe shaped the person you are today. Well i would say. I think i would say my dad. My dad passed away about sixteen years ago but He and i were very close and he was He was feisty he was the original revive but he was he was hot headed and he was like impassioned but he was also completely compassionate and dynamic in his mind he was always question like always always asking questions of people and things and interested like only interested in life and living and fully living his life. He was an entrepreneur as his father. And so i don. I never released sort of expected myself to go down that road. But it's fun looking back on it. Sort of thinking of the seeds that were sewn. You know what i mean. Years ago by i I think my dad for sure is is you know one of the most formative people in my life. I have to say my dad too. I mean you you know. My dad was a small town preacher and he just lived this life of self sacrifice and of compassion and he really was one of those people who met other people in the poorest aspects of society. Exactly where they were and and was there for them and he was really busy when i was a kid. I like a small town. Preacher is like a small town firemen. I mean yeah. I don't remember ever having a conversation or ever having a meal where he wasn't on the phone with somebody that had problem that needed his help. And when i was a kid. I know that that was really. He was really worked hard on on his church and super important to him. But you know when we were both adults we really were able to like. Have this great relationship and friendship and his advice and wisdom and all those different things he provided for me were just invaluable. And interestingly enough we were super different personalities because like writing described his particularly compassionate or or or or interested in the same exact. The same exact ability to meet people on that same exact non-judgmental or perfect way. My dad was but she definitely is the person i would say. Let me put it this way when you're in those moments of indecision and you're trying to think of of who's advice you'd like right now while it dads and you know what he gave me enough before he passed away in two thousand twelve. He gave me enough to where it's like. I know what he would say in this circumstance. So i have a pretty good idea where he would want you to fall out some. I think aaron liken than you think you well. I'm sorry to hear that you both lost your father's especially being such important people to use in the end so young which leaves you kind of with a lot on your shoulders. And i'm curious how out of their influence. How has that informed your own parenting question. Well you know. I i would say for me. We always talked about everything in my household so in our family we like really value like a lot of dialogue so we sit around the table and we talk politics and culture and current events and and broad worldview issues that i think a lot of people either avoid having themselves or having with their kids and i think that's probably where my dad influenced my parenting. It's a i think. interestingly enough. my dad was very respectful of my individual person hood from a very young age. There was never this idea of the child Not being an individual worthy of expression or acknowledgment. And i think that's kind of really important to us with our parenting technique. It's kind of this recognition of the innate. Humanity of the kids despite the fact that okay. They don't have the experience they don't have the years. They need some guidance but at the same time every single day they come up with something that i haven't exactly thought of in that way and it's a really valuable Exchange i think i would say you know my dad. My dad was ever undeterred. He was he was very much like forward. Movin- and i think in a lot of ways he was very brave. You know he. He just kind of kept going forward kept looking forward. And i think that that has i can buckle under the pressure of sentimentality. Sometimes too much. And i think i i do remember like my dad was. My dad was brave and he was always looking at the road ahead and i think You know that's the kind of i wanna be. It's a good example for me to keep returning to kids really need their parents to be brave and undeterred. And i think that's been a huge Example that has kind of continued on the other thing is henry. My oldest was just a baby. When my dad got sick and i was in art school i was in grad school at the time and it it gave me. I sort of had this moment of time. I was able to sort of pull out of everything and go. Help my mom and be with my dad. During that time and i think it was a good moment in my life where i was able to kind of look in word at where i was spending my time and what mattered and i think it did kind of then lead me down. Certain other roads in my life. I've home-schooled the kids since they were little. And i don't know if. I would have taken that opportunity if not for being a not for pulling back a little bit so i think i think that was another thing he did for me. That didn't necessarily want him to be able to see the gift even in the pain. Yeah absolutely well and her dad you know he and i were friends and you know there were many many years where brandy would not have much to do with me and he and i would go get coffee and donuts or we'd hang out so he was just a. He was a great great friend of mine as well. So why not a wonderful relationship. I think he was ruined for me. Very strategic dam gotta rooting for me. I think you know. I didn't think he didn't want me to lose heart. That's so great. Well thanks for sharing all of that you guys. I'd like to shift to your business savage sublime. Tell us about the name. How did you come up with that. And tell us what this businesses well brandy. And i have. I think we've always had kind of a lifelong fascination with the artifacts that kind of make up your life you know and we've also both had our our interests always been in like the creative process. We've both really enjoyed making things mine. I think have been a little more singular than hers have but we started out making a randy was making cutting boards. And i was making viking axes and so aspen come out so i think We're thinking what. What's a good way to describe viking axes and artisan kitchen equipment salvage supply while it also kind of an ongoing joke in our family. We like to sort of tiptoe around the idea of like who saw that in opposed. Yes it's like we're gonna keep you guessing. Uh sometimes it's means you now you know. I love that. So dan viking axes. That is so random. How did that come about will so turlock california. Where we're from is a is a scandinavian so brandon. I both are of scandinavian ancestry. So how can we know you know You know with a little bit of that. Kind of norwegian pride. Now there's a whole story there but you know growing up with that kind of norwegian pride and stuff like that. We were talking about looking at viking history and stuff like that so i was really interested in it and there was a company in sweden. That was making this really neat. Viking acts and i talked to the distributor and it was seven hundred bucks. And i said to myself you know i think i can make that and so that's kind of what inspired me to start making axes and i think that was probably six or seven years ago and the first axes i made. I made ten axes that first year and we like sold them at a small local artisan market. You're in the north bay and that kind of set might trajectory on that. So i m. I make knives and viking axes that that are kind of uh. Have my own little signature. Look to them so very cool. What would be unique like if you went into a market that had some of your knives or axes and somebody else's there's something that would a collector maybe would say. Oh dan made this well. Yeah and so you know it's really funny because you you know when you talk about like books that influence i think we both like actually are pretty rapacious readers so there are certain texts that you you go back to for for inspiration. And there's a book by bill right called theater military theater knives of world war two and that kind of influences like my knife making design which is largely based on found metal knives that were produced during world war two and just shipped out to our troops en masse due to the equipment shortages of that period. So that's kind of where. I get my knife inspiration. Okay and brandy wet wet lead to cutting boards. How did you develop that interest. Well when we moved to our home which we've been in now it's valuable for eight years. It was calm. It's ten acres and it's it was completely overgrown with poison oak and berries and bushes and trees and one of the main trees on our property. California bay laurel and the california is edible just like the mediterranean bathe usually buy at the grocery store. It's just a little bit more potent it as often and i we were just trying our very best to sort of push back the wilderness to kind of find. Our house are placed here and we kept cutting down trees. And i just kept thinking like i wanted. Just wish we could do something with these trees. We were using them for firewood. And chipping them and things like that. And i just was obsessed this one year with like trying to make some boards out of the trees so we we have a friend who We found found a friend who has a mill and hide some of it milled more beautiful than i ever expected. And i really enjoy it because i've been home with kids for so long. I've spent just a lot of time in the kitchen. And you know how those like sort of menial tasks that philip a lot of your day when your kids are little they kind of day kind of where you down and then at the same time when they start to go away you kind of look back on them with you know a real like soft spot in your heart for them so i very much love working with wood and i and i remember when the kids were little i would you know. Be like cutting on the cutting gordon. I love that. It makes those knives marks knife marks on the on the wood. And it's really interesting poetic sort of marking of days and mark enough time so when i made my first board. I was thrilled then. Like dan said we brought some of our stuff to market and they sold and it was people. Were really interested in them. And then we've just kind of developed it from there. So i've gotten i've gotten a lot better. I mean my first boards. I didn't really know anything about what i was doing. My grandfather was a carpenter. And you know we've always had tools and things like that around. But i hadn't really i took a. I took a class which class in high school. But that was the extent of any of the work is done and then i just kind of started to teach myself and then as i sold board we would buy like a new piece of equipment. A different standing peace than new ban. Saw things like that. And i started to really enjoy it. And then i started carving into the boards which really like ignited my creativity. I started really enjoy. But i honestly i love that. It's this piece that like i can put out there. That is the sort of functional artwork but then also like evolves over time with whoever is taking that and using it in their home. You know it's just this kind of beautiful marking of days. I think so no fantastic and you had said you you were in school. Did you have a direction for your art or a medium. That was your favorite yet. Nauseam doing at this jones. Cisco are it's too. I was doing filmmaking specifically documentary filmmaking. but honestly it's funny. Because i remember it i've written about this too. I remember at the time. I love film. I love that. It's you know these these little pictures. That are just moving. I love films so much than any sort of digital work. That's out there now but It's just beautiful dancing and flickering of light but it's also like so evanescence. The film itself is a really is is really like delicate. It falls apart over time. It's it's all about this sort of like tiny moment in time that you create and it's gone and i and i do i did at the time and always really long to do more to create something that was more of an object and so i kind of think that you know i think my boards are sort of An object documentary in some ways. Which i think has been really sort of fun to develop. I love that combination. and and how it evolved. Yeah yeah so. Was there a point that you guys launched savage sublime or did it kind of grow a little girl little on. You're like hey think we have a company here. Tell us about how the the business has evolved. Well our goal really in the beginning with just to get a little kitty together so we can take our family on vacation. That was sort of what we were working for. And in addition to like the crossover between our lives other than just our kids so that we kind of have something to do together. It was really. We always really enjoyed doing that. So we started kind of selling things and then you know it started kind of doing a little better year-by-year and we were really enjoying it. And we finally like pulled together a little a little savings and went on a month long trip to europe and we were really like catching steam feeling pretty good about it kids of all been involved with it and really enjoyed it. Unlike family thing to do together. You know. And i think that like that. So this hasn't been are full source of income but it's definitely been something that has has grown in terms of significance that aspect. But i think that has been super valuable for us to have this really fun thing that plan or into the future and then the collaboration on creative projects i you know like i said brandon. I have always both been very interested in the creative process. And the fact that we've kind of had the same thing to poor our energies into although we're coming at it from the savage side and the side As a as. I think. I think it's really been a gift to us in terms of like something that i think a lot of married couples with a lot of kids in and and especially with brandy homeschooling and just life is so busy and everything goes by so fast and she talked about cutting boards marking that time and preserving that time. Well i think any aspect of your life that you can share also kind of ends up marking that time and this shared aspect of our life has been really a lot of fun. It's been very cool so You know Brandies an entrepreneur. And you know it is a business but by the same token it has been a great team building exercise for our family Coal i often ask couples. And i didn't ask you guys this but if your marriage was a team sport what would it be. I don't really know anything about the march madness. The other day. I was like i don't even know what i i would say. We're more like an infantry squad. Yeah everybody has their marching orders. He's got a job. I've enjoyed watching the videos. That are are on your instagram. Feed savage sublime. And just this. It's almost like a dance higher. You're working with each other. You know we really could've treated as as a play. You know what i mean like. We're it's i think Because of because we're able to do it here out of our home and our kids serbian bald and then you know we started to sort of lace in some different vintage and found objects that we'd been selling to so we've had fun like out with our family hunting nose down so it it has felt like a dance. I think that's good. Maybe we're dancers it. Will i think you know. The idea of jared collections has been really appealing to us. Because one we well. We're both pretty hardcore flea market and antique store people. So it's been kind of fun to try to find some some treasures to happen. You know we both. I'm sure he picked up like really love. The concept of the artifact unit. I mean can all go by whatever we'd at target or whatever but you know these are the things that you kind of have in your home and so having them be beautiful and special and have a story behind them. I think is something that we enjoy. And we enjoy sharing with people. And i think it's a concept that people really understand too and like to get behind awesome when i was doing a little bit of looking at your website in preparation for this. I see that you have a release coming up. So i did sign up for your email so good because those boards are beautiful. I'm excited about next release. It's fun it's fun too. I like releasing things in a collection. Because it's fun to see how it all sort of come together as a whole. Yeah very much. So so you've mentioned that you homeschool you. The kids are involved in the work. How do you talk with your kids about the business. Well we need something done. We say you want to go on vacation. But it's funny. I think a family organism right. And so i think that When they see a our enthusiasm for something it's contagious and they are also very our kids are very vested in every aspect of what we do. It's not again. Everything happens around the kitchen table at about six o'clock every night and a lot of times the best way to move forward on the business is is a topic of discussion and the kids are right there and completely engaged so the it's it has been a really cool team prosser and it's cool to be able to show them how to set goals and start to being away on whether it's you know on a monetary level or on whatever level it is i think they are getting just see that in action which is really cool kind of like i think to kind of an introduction to like free market economics. You know it's been really cool to talk about the fact that we're really blessed to be able to produce something and through our labours you know create wealth to a certain extent. It's a great example for them in terms of like moving forward. I think this idea of they're stuck doing one. Thing is not something we want them to feel. We want them to feel like. Hey there is a world of possibility and that you can support yourself in any number of ways through entrepreneurship. So it's fun to see them. Start at take the ball and run with it or is the expression take this goal is it is and it's a sports analogy involves who's ball. I believe that my daughter. She's she so where we are in tabasco pull the ground is very. It's clay dirt. It's really you know miserable plant in joke 'love' but she like started digging this clay and made it into a pot and figured out how to cast it in put it in fire and like make little elm and made a little pot and then she built her a ho we were like i mean i don't wanna take away from our business because now she's competitor but wandering studios and she's selling a ashtrays which is weird choice because we've been here by asked how amazing though that she has picked up for your love for making things and just trying it right. Maybe it'll work. It's fun to watch. Yeah i think that's what it is. I love. i love that they kind of have the guts to just give it a try and see what happens then. Joe's making a hang glider right now. That could go wrong. What you're wrong exactly to put the bully of the neighborhood as the first one to go out on it or something. Yeah a while back. Our daughter told us about five. Mary's and i started watching. I kind of got addicted almost during the pandemic. It was just such a fun. Bright place right to watch stories. And i think did you guys go through their business. Yeah i did. Yeah so i signed up for her her little business school about a year ago i started. I love her on instagram. Too and i just felt like she was. She's so authentic you know in her business style and i also really feel like i don't see myself as a farmer although like going down like in the agricultural industry but i do use the would that's grown on our property and i think i i feel a real connection to rural america. I think that there's of real life force. That comes out of ruler. America that she is really good at articulating and teaching. How to sort of move forward so i did her business course than i am still involved in her. She does a. She's doing like a mastermind so little small groups of people get together and talk and share ideas and matt spin just a huge education really funds. Such a such a great investment of my time. It's been it's been really awesome. How has that impacted your business. Do you think. Well i think you know. Like i said before i started making these than as i would make them and sell them then. I would buy whatever it was that i needed to do more and get better the five. Mary's was the first thing. I had sort of invested in like as a future saying so kind of little fire kind of got me going a little bit a little bit faster and you know it's it's just always great to be third involved with people that are doing something similar that can kind of also help inspire and encourage you along. The way she's married is a genus. She's so great at social media. She's also i feel like she's kind of right at the you know. She's always sort of looking ahead sort of how to manage these things and she's been a great a great mentor. I don't know her personally. Just through sort of communication will take all that well. It's funny too. It's like you know in our home. Mary's kind of a celebrity right. So you know we we. It's like all celebrities. I think if you're watching somebody watching somebody autumn movie and you feel like well. Yeah you know. I really feel like i know humphrey bogart or something. You know. it's like. I mean i think our family. We really feel like mary. As part of our endeavor and i think the hard part when when people consider themselves makers or involved in artisan work is when you're when you're trying to monetize that you're trying to make that into a real business and start to understand the dynamics of entrepreneurship. It's it's much more of a science. I think than than brandon. I are attuned to the thing. I've noticed that i didn't i didn't take course. But as a as a part of the business watching what brands learn. I think that what what mary's been really good at has been kind of sharpening our focus on the business aspect of the creative process. And i think That's where a lot of artisan shops really go wrong. They they never figure out how to capture what. They're doing from an entrepreneurship standpoint. And she's been really good In terms of guiding us on that. Yeah absolutely i think you know. There's there's the hobby and there's business you have to decide what it is that you're going for so i think it's been working with her has been great in sort of helping define define that for for me and for us. Yeah yeah if anyone's interested their instagram feed is just delightful. She posts so much and i say her doing so many things and i don't know when the woman sleeps what what has been a high and a low since you have launched savage sublime. You know i would say that. This year with the cova does so. Many people have struggled with different things. We were starting to kind of build up a little bit of a steam as we were going along with our markets and then with kovic is pasture was canceled which forced me to cut a website together because there was really no other option. So i think that was a great high and low. You know what i mean. It was kind of a turning point for me. I've had been going online and i'm currently like rebuilding my website and working on sort of going further online. But i think that has opened up a lot of doors for me figuring out how to ship. Do you know all those kinds of things. But i think it's made it bigger in the i. Have you know a bigger place to play. I think that's been a low and then it kind of forced me into this position but it. I think it's going to be really good change. No i'm i'm impossible to stop from just chiming in. But you know. Here's i i would say the whole shutdown. I really enjoyed the live. Markets and that was our entire focus really until the pandemic. We didn't really have a internet presence or it was all We would go. We go to a couple of different festivals and a couple of different makers fairs and two or three year. And i love just talking to people about what what we were doing. It was to me. That was so fun and it was fun to have the kids out there and it was fun to just when when somebody purchased something from you face to face after hearing about it to me that was like validating as a maker so i i really when all of a sudden everything was canceled in two thousand twenty to me. That was a real low point camp. I think it was when we kinda hit that. Low point that Brandy started working with with mary and we did start kind of looking at this more. From the context more the context of like this it needs to be an ongoing business and actually i think our internet revenues veteran. I can tell that it'd been very seasonally. Being we'd have december would be a rocket and then we wouldn't sell again until june. And i think i think it's actually a lot more business now so from that standpoint high play but i i gotta say i can't wait to get back out and talk to people. I do miss that to miss the real the marketing and that is really fun. It's a lot more fun to see people face to face. Then yes yeah. I've had some pieces. We recently moved the beginning of december and we had everything in storage for like two and a half years and we started going to santa fe. Oh my goodness well on our honeymoon. Which was several months after we actually married. We went on a backpacking trip in new mexico. Took a little side trip to taus ran out of money there. We had a vw. Bus literally drove from towels to texas with a twenty dollar twenty dollars left and we were scavenging coins from the fee w. bus but we bought our first little piece of pottery. That was made by a native american woman and there was nothing particularly. It was never going to be a collector's piece. But i remember the woman about it from she was an old woman and when we unpacked this box i had three or four. That had just shattered an. I was so sad because i was like. I can't replace them. It's not about what i spent. Didn't even spend a lot on them. But i i remember that woman. So i have several pieces. I'm not a big collector. I'd like to collect more art. But i definitely appreciate that factor. I know who made this. In fact i. I bought a piece in santa fe a couple years ago. They had a children's art festival and this little girl. Her name is hannah same as our daughter and she had made this little tiny black. You know there's a a black pottery that i forget which pueblo is known for that but this girl had made this little black pot and i bought it and i said i am to say i bought your first piece before you were famous because it was beautiful. I love it i mean yeah so another. That's what you remember. You remember those. I had so many of the little trinkets and things we have around here. I can tell you exactly where. I got it what we were doing. I remember it like brings me back in such a specific way. Totally or workers tricky. Yes but like you said. They have meaning. They're not just things to stick up on a shelf order all of this collection. Yeah so how do you split up the roles in the business. I have nothing to with the business side. I make i am not any i. I don't do anything with the business. But i okay things he. He's the blades. Smith is the where i am. Yeah i'm the i. Knives and axes or my focus and yeah. That's what i do. Yeah okay all right. How do you guys keep the fun friendship and intimacy in your marriage with this busy life. Raising kids making things traveling well. I think that you know like we talked about. I think that in the beginning. This was the kind of grown-up play. We were participating in. You know what i mean. We didn't know we were kind of like pretending to have a business doing it together and it was really fun and i think that doing it together is part of the part of the thing that keeps us connected. You know it keeps us like minded and certain things. I years ago when the kids were really little we lived in petaluma. Just a couple towns over. Do you remember this and we did. They do this. Big day of the dead thing in all the towel all the little shops and stuff downtown and a friend of a friend of ours asked us to do a little altered one of the store windows and we did it together. It was the first kind of art piece we had put together. And it was so fun and i think it sort of inspired us to collaborate more in some of in some of those ways i think i think it's i think that's a big aspect of it. We also both of us laugh a lot. We we have pretty good sense of humor. I think generally where we started. Keep the laughter going and neither of us. Are you know to we get we don't we. Don't hold the grudge. The graduate energy to hold a grudge too long so no. I think that's hugely helpful. And you know when you have sharp hatchets around. I don't want to stay. Each other's good side could be really dangerous said sarah household on some. Well it's i don't know that it's i think the intentional decision to share a life is kind of what has sustained us. Both i mean. I think that we've tried to be more intentional about like a. You know having setting time aside. But i think that it's definitely been a digestive collaborating. Not just on the business but make collaborating in terms of where we want to go in. The next twenty years has been something. That's kind of been our obsession lately. I think always kind of maintaining this idea of Steadfastly desiring to go in the same direction. has been key absolutely. Yeah it's very important. There's actually been research done. That talks about shared. Goals is one component of especially for an entrepreneur marriage lasting for years and years. And you guys are twenty years in. And i hope you have forty more at least you know. Pleased the math. You've got on my work out before. Well we've been married forty one and my husband says i think we've got another thirty years and i'm kinda like well. Hey i hope so. But i should and works out. Yeah well you guys have been a delight to talk to. And i thank you so much for coming on the program and sharing your story of this beautiful cutting boards and savage knives and so i just wanna thank you and wish you all the best way with your future plan a lot of fun. Thank you so much. 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Being a Crane Operator

Essential Craftsman Podcast

39:45 min | 1 year ago

Being a Crane Operator

"Grabs lunchbox he called the ladder. When all the way the talk got the cab checked out all the charts and everything see what he'd do what he can do. So long around. Error picked up unity plywood. They said that thing just kind of bowed like this long around me said they wanted. It grabbed his watch. Boxing went down. I'm GonNa find a grain somewhere back on verse construction. I started out in nineteen seventy call me went bad and the guy was working for. He moved out of state volatile. So I went to work for Abbey's for about five years and then I went back into construction for Mathis or for somebody else for different guy. He was doing Building and Remodel of Abbey's Oh I says L. I met him nicey remodeled the Stevens store. Yeah that was the original Abbey's flagship station right there. That's when we first Kicked out the front. The first time it was kicked out then kicked out another time since end to that was seventy five or seventy six. That would have been. Yeah that's when I graduated from high school year is a little ahead of me. Abbes is the hometown pizza place for those of you. Who aren't locals? It's SORTA the yeah hometown early regional. Yeah it started out. Just hometown himself started that store. And then they they. Well hang up and went eminent partners. Okay Bob Earl Robert Harold K. You remember that little other pizza joint right in the place right. Yeah my dad used. Take Sarah when we were little and then all of a sudden it wasn't there anymore in Abbey's hat. At what point did you kind of get behind the seat of a crane then and Kinda converter transition to operating that or was it a long gradual thing? No it actually was about. Nineteen eighty was the first time I got a seat. Nord. Rt but you had worked in the woods. Let me jump in because you and I had talked about working in the woods a little bit. Yeah I did for after High School for the Navy. So about nineteen eighty. You've got into the seat of an old. Rt IN RT as a type of crane. Yeah it's a rough terrain crane. I see not not for driving on the road. They usually have put him on Little Boys. All jobsite to jobsite. What's it a big one? No it was a little icy I think it was a fifteen ton or something and you know we were basically what he was doing. A job in Turlock California turlock That's where my mom was born. Oh Yeah we did a flood-control for a bunch of different structures stuff for flood control out in the By the airport out by Blake. Oh California and anyway so we had uh some bridge beams and stuff for foreign Bridges that we put in for over the canals and so I use it to move them around autumn and not all of them. Yeah so it was just a deal where the work had to be done on your there. And they knew you're responsible and they said can you run this getting the seat. Or how'd that go pretty much? Go get say to that thing and unload all those beams off onto the ground. Yeah Yeah and the more you did it. The more you became the best added on the job site. Generally or the go-to Guy Sorta Kinda took awhile it? I started with Jack and eighty three Jack Mathis and he had He had cranes but he had a crew that worked Crane business part and I was just garnered. That was an eighty three eighty three and nineteen ninety. He bought that boom truck that we have and I started running. It'll bit off and on the guy that was running the crane business. He retired ninety six. So then I took over all time of ninety-six. Is it the same crane to that? You used on our job when you started on in one thousand nine hundred. The truck okay. Yep but that's the little crane. They had a big crane to. So you're gonNA describe that to us and we'll probably get some B. Roll a picture that maybe to put up. Because it's how big is it? That's one hundred one hundred twenty nine hundred twenty. You may maybe just give us an idea if you had to classify you know cranes into classes as a sounds like boom truck is one class and a rough terrain on Rt. What are the others? What are the general categories You have crawler cranes which are on tracks and usually a lattice they have a lattice. Boom configuration Is that for the most rough terrain or for mud. Or what but why not tracks now? They use those a lot for like Bridge and Buildings put him on on. Sorry okay. Trask cataracts only flat. No grouses you see him on bridge jobs big allied pads on the tracks big houses down on the ground they have. They have to put down. Matt's Big Timber Matt say put down at the level up zoo because ab no outriggers. Their tracks are just sitting on the tracks. Yeah and so. They but big Matt's down for him to walk on and and level amount and that's what they used for those. Okay let's got flat ground or something and it's good ground but usually they use matt's anyway it's more stable. None you have the like are one. Twenty is a truck mounted grain and they also have a all-terrain which is like the truck mount but the tires most of them steer. Oh articulate all the way around they get in a little bit rougher country than the one like I have and what. What's this bigger one? You know we? We know the one that was in our video. The one that you brought is what's had a ton seventeen boom truck seventeen ten boom truck so the other crane is a hundred and twenty ton crane it would pick up that boom truck that he operated and set it up there quite a ways out there quite a serious crane with a telescoping boom it as one hundred thirty seven two main stick. Yes so think of that. Which is actually for that size of crane nowadays is pretty short. Always it really. Oh yeah they go the some other cranes go up to one hundred and ninety seven feet on one twenty. Wow that's mounted on a regular sort of semi truck frame. No it's a They called they called a truck mount but it is a basically a truck. But it's a big one. It's custom made by the crane manufacturer like eight axles. How many axles got five axles into the crane and two tags? Yeah Yeah See. So they're seven acts credible big heavy wide rubber big rubber to haul that they're driving down the road. It has to have a pretty good size tires because the tire width makes up. How much you want. You can all see it. Total going down the highway one hundred thirty thousand bounds. Oh my gosh have yeah. Yeah are there. Are there trucks bigger than that? Going down the road ever. Wow this is big and it looks big. And that it's out there by the CAB and sticking out in front you know ready to batter down anything you run into most most of all like to five hundred thousand six fifty tonnes They usually the whole house comes off boom and house and everything comes off. Then they just drive carrier down the road and put it back on. They bring a crane to put the crane together Knowing together most of them are they're designed to pick themselves up and they drive drive the truck underneath it and send it back out right. Yeah and not all but most of them. Yeah so boom. Truck is the proper description for the smaller one and that is that how people should refer to it as opposed to a crane or is it kind of just either way. It's still a crane. A she's a classified as a boom truck got it. Yeah which one do you prefer? Operating really doesn't matter. They're both about the same. Do you have a little butterflies in your stomach anymore when you had no job or is it just another day at the office now just another day? Just another day interesting. This is just what you do what I do. What about in terms of prep do you ever do you? Always I know you came. Scoped out our job to decide which truck to bring. Do you always kinda scope the job out I or you just kind of at this point no I will will figure it out one way or another said another day at the office or does it. Is there a lot of prep going on before you get there from your end not always some jobs you have to go look at before you go to them to see what which one you're going to need Like if you're doing Air conditioning heating systems. Or Hot tubs or flaws. They're basically going to be the boom truck. I mean there is some of the units that we have to set with the big crane because of the re reach out there. Yeah out there but Most part most of them are just boom truck. Yeah but so. How often with the big one do you have to get out the chart and Looki- alcohol and the weighed in at where I'm going to be stretched out to? How often in that big when you get close enough that you have to be paying close attention to the weight and the distance and the angle or with that crane in this market. Is it almost always in the safety zone? Well if you're if you're right on the edge you know I mean you're on edge right. You don't have a lot of leeway I mean you you gotta get your measurement from center of the pen on the crane to the center of the pick on whatever you're lifting and then you look at your chart what that radio call radius. What is and see what you can lift at that point. Sometimes you get right out there where you're picking all it'll pick on at seventy feet you know like the big crane seventy feet. I think it's good for twenty thousand pounds. You still can get him to tip. You don't WanNa do want to do that pretty much. Stay within the Chart. Because if you get outside the chart and you don't know if you know something's GonNa sure and so you're checking that lots of times you have to look at that chart and make sure you're you're squarely in the safety margin or an affinity become able. Yeah if it's heavy stuff. Yeah how do you know with confidence? What something ways? I mean like our walls. It's a bunch of lumber and all sorts of things and I know that might have been light enough. That didn't matter but do you have like some kind of benchmark things that you know. This general thing is always around here. How do you develop that sense? Well you just kinda lot of extra guessing about what it ways because you know you can get right down to it. You could do a lot of calculating I think I think I gave you my best guess on the way to that big wall. Yeah and as you know you can take the lumber way so much scoreless in absolutely added up we did right and steals about the same way but lots of times in when you're lifting some old thing out of a male or something that you don't know what the heck is on it you know. What else is stuff that's in it for years? You know whoops anchor. Bolt didn't get cut off. Yeah all right now. Here's something wondered about a lot because I fiddled around with trees allot logging and Sawmill? And I've climbed and I've seen I think you around here. With Ukraine with one hundred thousand tonnes stretched up in the air behind building choke to the top of a tree that a tree services taken out yeah grabbing a tree on its feet and taken out some part of it maybe guts feathers. An- all right out or is it a lot of times it's in pieces. Yeah Sometimes depending on the size of the tree the biggest broadmoor try and take it all in one chunk. You're up so far. You can't lift high enough to clear the ground well. The tree gets really small. Yeah off you're picking more weight than it can actually. Yeah that's true. Fake so cassette and chokers. We pinched off the tops. Plenty Log House Titan. Hard Pool it just pinches off right so you gotta you gotta kind of calculating how much that chunk at your Hook and onto will actually pick and then usually the. The three guys are pretty good with that. Yeah and they figure out about what they how much they wanna go and then they tell me we would roughly guess about how much going away then. Yep We're good you know for so so let me. Just explain to the people just heard US talking about pinching it off with that means when you're when you're using a cable choker half inch diameter five h diameter three quarter inch diameter and the Knubben the end of the choker slips into a bell so it just a beautiful slipknot so when you pull on a choker it's just constricting that cable down and however hard you pull is how hard that cable is trying to cut into the top of that tree. It will actually pull her it. Will it'll just show more Right throughout the more weight to it because like just a like a five eighths choker. What's five eighths line. Hold forty thousand pounds or something you put thousands of pounds a poll on the end of a cable and it will just cut in the same way that that what a a piece of string would cut into a piece of ice cream just cut right through and now you're picking a tree but you pinch the top off the trees cut off and now you've got a problem. Yeah trays going over. The trains trains going to get a little trees. A dead man you don't want to. There's a Lotta when we do trees we try to stay under you. Everything try because it's not doesn't take that long to make an extra cut. Yeah to save somebody. Yeah you know. We don't care about the tree but we do care about the person. Yeah I. I'm guessing there's Times where you called it off because maybe you brought the wrong truck but have you ever called it off for other reasons like it didn't seem say for I don't know whether or maybe the there wasn't enough helper. Not that I can remember you. Tru truly is just another day at the office. I can't imagine getting to that point with such a an. Oa that gets you job. Had some some jobs were we to set up. We were in the mud. Yeah but we just went back to the shop or if we didn't bring it with us to begin with we went back shop that I've done each delay down to outriggers on to take care of it soothing. So just because I'm a not head and I have too much pride. It says that the tensile strength of five eight six by nineteen class wire rope is forty one thousand pounds. And and that's I mean that's a lot of pizza. Five eighths line you can you can heave the back of a d six up hard before that's GonNa break. But so if you thirty or forty thousand pounds of pull on a five eighths cross-section line that's GonNa cut through anything especially if it spins a rotates in any bit you know in fact one time my dad and I ran at the winch line around an old farmhouse at the Guy Wanted Move and br and choked off one and it just went ahead and just cut that house and half with a winch line and it just collapsed and water up into a heap. And Yeah and I could not one upping that but I watched a video about a as a deep sea ship recovering. Now wasn't deep. Sees this huge ship beach itself on a jetty in the in the middle of a very important harbor and so they had to recover and they brought this boat out that basically ran a big fat cable and saw the entire ship class five or whatever the biggest class of ship is and it had to suffer like like eighteen hours or some huge number loop and had little like little tiny like almost like chainsaw. Teeth kind of in. It wasn't just a cable. But the point is it's yeah it's GonNa go through it and how it has spring much. What's your chart. Tell you what we use for our. Oh we're going to ask about. Yeah Yeah so so. This is safe lifting strength. This is safe lifting loads not breaking strength right. Yeah I've talking breaking strap that's in between and constructed logger crane operator. I don't care what it breaks out. I what I can lift with it. That's cool go out in the woods. We wouldn't funny so we've got you got chains webbing or straps and cables. Maybe give us kind of the overview of each one of those and how they're used in your you know crane lifting well we use Mainly nylon slayings what we call a sling and cable Chains we don't use. And why is that Mainly because we don't have any Lifting chains or completely different than just a regular. Oh Jane you'd wraparound something or you know. Improve tested overhead. Work rated right. Yeah yeah they all have to be rated out to what they can lift and I mean we've we've wanted to get a a set of four way is for a long time you know but we just use cables and yeah nylons and those those nylon slings are there tubular right. They're not just a flat thing. Not all okay. The ones that you use on the boom truck or flat okay Now I do have some that are tube. I see The big grand got both interesting The round slings generally will piccolo more than the flat ones but then that depends on wits too so you got the two inch three inch. Yeah up to buy. I think to go five going further net or not but anyway Well I guess like look they get to the wider. They get. You can pick more than whiter. Oh yeah there's a lot of information here swing capacities blocking fairly loading rigging hardware capacities load factors and weight distribution. Ask got all all the information that just about you'd need for making a leftist. Yeah the round ones usually have a bunch of nylon cord or yeah rings they are uh-huh that runs her own and then they got that Kind of like a Kevlar. Yeah like a sheath. Yeah so we'll up pretty good. They still they still cut Well yeah like with the chain or cable. It's kind of obvious when it's wearing out or failing because you have stranded strands easy and a sling kind of looks worn out after using it only a timer to because it's money and it can get a little afraid. Are there ways to tell when it's at the end of its life on the flat ones? They have a string in them. A colored string so woven in so when you see that colored string you're supposed to take it out of service interest on the edge like on the flat nylons. We're using yeah What happens is they start getting war. You know the nylon starts getting more and pretty soon you'll see a colored string round ones generally on those it has to do with slices okay mic in and around if you get any cuts in that outer sheath then you're supposed to take them out of service back to the idea of going to a job to see what you're up against and evaluating the reach and the distance and I called you. I think I've I think I've bugged you a couple of times and asked you to come out and look at jobs that were a little non-typical to see if you could get in there and stuff and you're always out there. Bam the next day or sometimes the same afternoon you look at over and you know you know what to do probably like every other business there are people were when you see who the work orders for. You think I better go out and get a look at this because this guy is a little too energetic or this guy underestimates is capacity. And some guys go man. I've lifted for him eighty times and he's always ready always has me square and my safety zone. Does Your Business Work like that? Like minded as a general contractor kind of most people when they call and want something. I'll ask them Some questions you know like how much weight you beckon far out you go on from the edge of the building and now give me an idea about what size crane. I need If it's really tricky than I go look at it. Most time it Go look at its access for being able to get into the the site so that lasts little job of ours. We've got John Video. You'RE GONNA WANNA watch that because your little boom truck looks real good. Did good. That had you stretched out just about as far as that little truck wanted to work. Didn't it yeah? We stash out just about all well pretty close but we made her. If it was it was all all we could reach really. Yeah the the wall lifted a little bit and it was kind of for us or like. Oh boy did you ever think of? Did you even think twice about that moment? Or is that just now. That's just kinda how it goes. 'cause I thought about that. There was no disaster because you had the whole way to the wall and if you had just lifted enough to pull the corners if it would slipped off the crane wouldn't have cared right. You're not gonNA take any additional shock if the rest of those nails pulled or it slipped off the edge because you already had. It already had yet. Yeah Yeah so. Let's talk about signaling. How many times you get out on the job and the guy has no idea in the world how to communicate to you what he wants you to do. Quite a few quite a few. Does that slow you down much or can you give them a basic crash course and then kind of translate it you know at the moment? Yeah give them a crash course. You know the basics of what you WANNA do Some guys still go like this. I mean you know I know what they WANNA do some hidden from the camera. What he said it's something. I still go like this out for like this for lineup and line got too many of those. Do you prefer hand signals over? Radio is it just superior to just do it that way. Or what? What's your first choice. radios are. They have their place. Or You can't see and I used to carry a set of radios in the boom truck all the time for those times when there were just one guy up on the roof and he'd have to say we'll give you the count of five start winding down you know but Every time I go to use them batteries dead. So you don't so that right. There makes my tail bushy. GimMe the count of five start lining down and that's like George behind a an operator who doesn't look back gives you the kind of five and then goes ahead all all one like that too. Yeah get gas get her. You know you're damn near ran over several times. He he got so bad out dared so many complaints guest him that they took him out of the woods and put him on the pile. Let him push chips or he couldn't wash man this guy. I was working for little river. Box and They are on a side and there were three cats. Runnin is I remember and I was pretty green and they sent me over with another guy because the two men choker setting crew behind a brand new D six e Ten K. power shift nineteen seventy seven really fast and and his cats can our love to push. She'd come in pushing pushing pushing not paying attention with folks editor telling him and he's short ended. A little whip against at stomping broke choke. Setters leg didn't even get off. The cat didn't even get off the cat after broke. This kid's leg get got kind of drug out of there and limped out of there and they went down to the landing and he just kept logged in with the other guy and they sent me over there and Man. I I really. I ended up having to walk up. Anyway we're not here to talk about that but that's no good when they're not watching Orient. No Iran out down health as fast as I could before. Yep same one place else to go someplace else to go. In fact I did that. Running downhill looking over my shoulder and logs sideways. Poom hard as I could go get away and consider myself lucky escape. Yeah so choker. Setting context when logs are brought to the ground or the guys who run out with cables. Strap them so the cat can drag a man. Is that more or less set the jokers and then when the cat comes up you pull a winch line off and you hook the eyes of the jokers onto the winch line. Create the turn turn Seta Logs and then once it turns onto the cat you clear out and the cat off ago yeah see we. We had a hook tender. That's all he did was grabbed the ball line. Rundown Hooks jokers Oh I see. Give signal the casket or he. He drug him off that cat twice. You'd kitten at one time I was actually down. Try and you know you could. Sometimes you gotta dig underneath the logs to get jobs. Choker will and I was digging underneath underneath logged halls and he took off. Oh man that thing come around damn near Belle. Dumber knocked hell out of it. Yeah Yeah I mean it was. Yes so my story was. I backed him up this grade. Just as far as I could and D six Ten Kale backup a long ways and then I pulled the bull lineup. They're a long ways and that's hard and I collected the turn and got it in there and you're you the choker that comes tight. I goes on the hook so that tight I holds all the other is on. If that makes sense I was standing on the ends of two logs with the rest of the chokers between my legs standing there with my hand on that I tell him. Tighten it up easy. And he's backed up as far as he can. He wasn't watching. He gave me five seconds. Took his foot off the brake. Let off the decelerating down the hill. He went while I was standing on the end of two logged with chokers between my legs screaming like mashed cat. Oh Yeah and when he stopped he turned around. He looked at me like what? What are you doing in there? I was an idiot. Yeah I walked off the turn down to. The truck told the HOOK tender. I quit and he said no no. Don't do that but anyway. So that's one of the reasons that I have so enjoyed working with you because you understand production and you understand when you have to be slow and safe. Yeah it's really nice when we did this Licensing new new licenses for federal their idea. When you're operating a crane has to do a speed and I told the guy said during his new. This is not a time contest. Sweep hang on a second. The Licensing Agency is encouraging speed. Or that's how they're right if you're out there doing your hands on with the crane for doing your test. You know you have a certain amount of time. You have to get this be done with this test. That's back and they're they're they're assuming that means you're familiar with the machine and like you can get the job done because you've got the experience. I guess well. They gave me a little bit of time to play with it. Before you take the test It just seems like totally surprising. You'd think they would be much more safety oriented. That doesn't sound like there's a lot of safety. They have a time limit on this Niguel. But they base that on a high-rise definite and they have a but they basically they're gonNA move over drawing in the lion down picking something up coming over and swing and they are they're just Kinda it's it's a little different than what we do out. Yeah you know go on. Two different jobs here narrates saying so. You pointed out to him. The time is not a consideration in the real world. Now the last thing. We're worried about it so long it takes up. Make sure by safe I for start. Yeah so is there. Is there a licensed? Then to operate a crane crane operator's certification or something like that. You go every three years. I go for refresher course which was Four hours I see original. The original test was eight hours. I said it was just aw safety on hands or nothing. It was just all safety so yeah then the feds got involved. I think it was fourteen Everybody was supposed to have like twenty fourteen like five years ago. Yeah ever- everybody was to have a federal license by two thousand fourteen. There been so many crane accidents through the United States that they decided they were gonNA take over. Wow and try to keep it safer but anyway Oregon had such a safe. Their safety was good. I TRACK RECORD. Of Safety in Oregon. They didn't have that many accidents and stuff so the feds let him go to seventeen. So that's what I went up to mine was in seventeen and and it's a it's a test where there's a crane there and they're watching. You operate this crane to get it done in a certain amount of time. I had to do two of them. Okay did The boom truck because operator boom truck and then I did what they call fixed. Which is a swing craned what they call it and it's like the big one. Yeah and so I had to do a test on each one of them and they also if you run our lattice boom crawler have a test for that. You know operate now's but you you you've taken move a ball through a big thing through obstacle courses obstacles and you gotta go through without Knockin. The cones down. I put it drop it in a fifty five gallon barrel. That's a pretty decent test. Yeah and so on and like I said it's time to get it done certain amount of time and then you got all the written tests that she oughta take. How do they test your ability to rig and strap and like insecure because that seems like as important as the actual joystick of the machine? They do. They did a little test on. That wasn't a lot but it was like part of the written or or sort of interesting. Yeah that card. You just showed me. There's lots of different rigging Options JUST ON THAT CARD. Yeah you know. There's there's a ton to rigging the book we had was about that tech. Yeah and there was. The test took took just about all day really trying to remember. I had or of them for different tests or five different tests. I had to take on a bet that was not just another day at the office. When you're driving up to do that. No well see. We spent three days in the classroom. Oh no kidding trying to learn all this stuff. It was a five day course total and so. I spent three three eight hour as in a classroom going over all the information and oceans rules and answers roles all the stuff that you would be getting tested on in different different stuff about cranes and what have you know. How do you assess that you feel like it's a safer crane operating environment right now? As opposed to ten years ago. I know the work itself is just as dangerous. But do you feel like this is changed much. How do you look at it? I don't think it has but I don't know how the yeah the accident rate is if it's changed any it seems like there's been some big accents just over the last couple of years even So that big thing was at in Florida but that wasn't so much. The crane is just the over bridge the bridge over the bridge but there was another crane and it was because they were the guys. Taken the crane down. Oh tower crawl. Our train came down though. So yeah and but I think it was a truly like the guys weren't communicating at one guy. Took out a pin before the other guy didn't know he had taken something like that out of sequence or something so you ever think about sitting on a tower crane without just you ever been up on one of those. What would that be like Dinero? Same thing. Yeah? It'd be a little different so bellevue boring old operator. That used to work for us. He He'd been operate krantz. Frears may send him up. Do you gene. When they were building the first Sacred Heart Yeah and put him on one of those ones and he said he grabs las boxy crawled the latter. When all the way the talk? Got The cab. Checked out all the charts and everything he would. He do what he can do. Swung AROUND ERROR. Picked up unit plywood. They said that thing just kind of bowed like this. He swung around these said or they wanted. It grabbed his lunchbox. He went down. I'm GonNa find a grain somewhere back on did actually operated grains on barges kidding. But he didn't like that. Who would I like Ryan equipment but for cranes yeah ghetto loader and why is that more more using your head a little more or what is it all the biggest part of why? I like us. 'cause we're we're we go to a different place pretty much every day. Yeah what am working off the same place all the time. Yeah and that I enjoy that. Because working in construction you'd be on a job for a were three months to a year one job. Yeah so and sometimes it might be a really inconvenient location or faraway town. And but but you're saying it's obvious but every day you're on a new job site basically that's pretty cool. That is a lot of times. It's become the same thing but it's a different. Yeah that's pretty never part of town so you've done a lot of work for the sawmills around here. Yeah and so. Since I mean when I grew graduated from high school and logging and construction this was a different sawmill world than it is now yeah I worked for rosy rosy was rolling. Yeah when they had eighty or ninety log trucks parked out there off. Diamond Lake Highway back safe work for him. Nineteen seventy Kenneth Ford. No kid anything come to mind when you think about running a crane around a sawmill over the last forty years and maybe not because I mean they're pretty professional anything mind now most of its Most of US pretty much cut and dried okay The only real weird one I remember was we pulled a barker out that we had actually put in there but while we grabbed a whole it started taking it out the old grain. Start at miss. This sixty five star data coming up in the front you know that was when I was fairly new at run on that one so made me a little bit nervous. Don't want some guy is talking to him on the radio and they said well you got it all now also then can't get any worse what's GonNa Fires got to go. So you were just at the just at the limit you were still zone and the knows the truck just got a little light cast are coming up off the ground so okay all right but you can feel it. You could feel it and see. So that's I mean running a cat skin and cat particularly running grade. You're actually run grade with the seat of your pants. You're running grade with how it feels on your hip pockets. And so a cranes gotta be upset about the same way you can feel. That seat began to tip before you almost recognize anything. Yeah the old ones. See like the old sixty five. Now there's no computers uh-huh the one twenty has a computer. So you'll tell you had. Yeah so you've got a certain you know you kind of tell but you're still even though you got a computer you're still you can still feel it the seat interest I mean. You're you're used to doing everything and even though you have a computer they tell you. This was the weird part. Said if the grand comes with the computer it has to have a computer asked work but you cannot rely on that. Computer Sawyer. Lift interesting yeah you have to. This is what you rely on. You have to still do your physical measurement for your radius and check your Chart Yep so so you have a very agreeable personality. I mean it's it's just you're an easy man to get along with which is nice. Not notably crane operator is but there. There has to be a time around here when you fi- when you said not only no but hell no. We're not GONNA do that. Have you ever had to do that? No I told a guy that was yellow describing that we one day that I've got to pick up the outrageous. I wouldn't put up with that. That's about as extreme on gas right there and he quit doing because I was but now pretty much you know. Everything goes pretty. Yeah barely smooth. Yeah so you've worked for Jack Mathis for forty years that we've figured out a good longtime sense eighty three Belgian K. Mart. Yeah that's all that's almost forty years. That's a good long right. Yeah so that means two things that means good hand and good boss. Yeah K- God work for. That's pretty neat. To have found a a long term relationship like that in a little town where the economy is a cycle as Roseburg's economy has been. It's been really cool. Obviously our lift even though it was nothing for you was pretty huge for us and be more pleased. It was really like A. You're kind of a heroic you know centerpiece of that whole day. So good job lifting walls like that they get. I've had them where they start lifting them and they do want to the start folding up the TACO baby doesn't WanNa come up so you seldom back down. Yeah put some strong backs or something. Yeah come up. Wow Yeah we. We scratched our head and talked about whether those picking is. We're in about the right spot. If it spread the load out. Overhangs probably stiffened him up to a lot. Yes exactly right. Those are all standing up some backbone. Yeah you gotTA swing by. The House is looking real. Good man. Yeah it's coming together about right now. Good well that wasn't the first video that Ron showed up. And we put a video up a couple of years ago from a that poetry model and And and Ron's in there and we made a video about hand signal so I recommend the viewers check that out if you WANNA see The specifics of the hand signals that we use there. Anything else to add or That might be interesting. Someone there could be a guy listening to this. Who Thinks. That's it crane. I AIN'T GONNA learn that I'm going to get my certification. I'm GONNA do it. It takes. How do you even start if somebody's thinking that right now well? They have schools that you can go to to learn how to other nets You can still learn on the job. The crane company that needs a basically an apprentice. An oiler right down. Yup Galea explain an oiler oilers usually like On the big crane. I've got an oiler those with me. He's a helper he's a helper and not necessarily a crane operator. But he's a lot most of them end up becoming crane operators because they said they helped you outriggers get set up and they get out of the back and then if they're hungry and if there are ten watching crane operators given more responsibility all the time we do this do this you got those outrigger pads. Set up about right. That's good all right now. No check to see if we're level going to read that chart tell me I'm doing that sort of thing. Maybe doing the hand signals if the guys on the ask a little different than when I started I started. They said dares to get go to pick this okay. Fine thanks for coming on. Ron Is really pleasure. And we'll have you back and hopefully we won't be doing another. Big Wall lifts quite like that ever again. But you never know. You never know what. I'll tell you this if we need a crane and Douglas County. We're going to call Jack Mathis Crane and we're GONNA say don't send anybody. But Ron Covey okay.

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The Childrens Book Project

Voices of the Community

23:39 min | 11 months ago

The Childrens Book Project

"Welcome to voices of the community which explores critical issues facing northern California communities. We introduce you to the voices of community thought leaders and change makers who are working on solutions that face our fellow individual community members neighborhoods cities in our region is George Koster your host. This episode is part of a series of interviews we conducted through our dissipation in the bay area video coalitions TV show titled San Francisco nonprofits spotlight. The interviews were conducted via zoom from April to June twenty twenty during the height of the first phase of the covid nineteen pandemic and the shelter in place requirements. The goal of the series is to shine a spotlight on the nonprofits and their staff who are struggling to deal with the impact of the covid nineteen pandemic on their operations services and sustainability. The series of interviews we conducted future voices from a cross section of organizations that make up the fabric of our community. Each of them brings a unique perspective on how they and we are dealing with the issues facing our community during the pandemic, and we know that when children have books at the homeless shelters who take them when they have them in the schools and school libraries in classroom libraries when teachers who have a low budget and afford to fill those classrooms. It makes an enormous difference and we know that because we get beautiful letters where my staff weeps from the children but also from teachers and the teachers tell us sometimes when they give children books, it's the first book in the home. In this episode, we feature the voices of Emily Maximum look a managing director along with board members, racist Schwartz, and marine. McCarthy of the Children's Book Project Over the last twenty, eight years. The children's but project has given away free books for children who need them additionally, all those who serve children and need books such as teachers, public health workers, childcare providers, homeless shelter staff, and parents from all over the bay area canceled an unlimited number of free books. Some of the books are donated by publishers, authors and Booksellers. However, almost all the books that are in high demand such as picture books. Early readers books in Spanish must be bought new I'm joined remotely via zoom by Emily Maximum. The managing director of the Children's Book Project along with Board President Reza Schwartz and board member Marine McCarthy. Thanks for being here emily recent marine. I'd like to start with research just provide for the audience a little bit of history on why the trumpets book project was created. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, two, the founder of the Children's book. Project Vicky pollock who was a reading specialist notice that the children in her schools did not have books. They didn't have books in the classroom and they didn't have books at home and she was very conversant with studies that show the more words a child. Here's an read to the better they. achieve in school and in life, and she was conversant with studies that showed if there's literacy issue children end up in the juvenile delinquency system and in prison later in life, the life outcomes were not a success. If children did not have books and books read to them at home or available to them in school, she did not have a lot of funds and so. She found a way to locate looks without children and give them to children without books, and so she started collecting gently used books and giving to people. She knew who were educators in the San Francisco Unified School district and then opened it up to all educators people serving children who need books and families who can't afford books. So public health clinics physicians began to. Come to her site and she made everything free, and that's how it began and she started writing grants in order to buy a very small percentage of the books that not get donated. But for the most part books were donated and then clients came to the book site in selected them and hundreds of thousands of books went out every year and it's been twenty years. Thank you. So what rain I WANNA turn to you in ask how his the Kobe teen epidemic. Impacted Children's book. Project in New Year normal distribution having educators come to your book site to self select books. It's really been difficult because we we would have people come three days a week and every for Saturday and we would tell them as many books as you can carry out. You can say, and so when we had to shut down, we had to be creative and we have an amazing book site manager and her assistant who went and picked up books from people that they could pick up books from and. Boxed them up and took them to shelters them to full sides. We became a mobile force and you know instead of having people come to US Kathleen Alexander took books to different sites and took them to the park direct sites where essential workers children were being cared for. So they can have books to read they took them to the food giveaways to the school they took down into the laptop giveaways the school. Anywhere where there was children and families that needed books, they made themselves available and that's how he'd given away. So many books in such a short period of time, which means that of course, we need books. It was an amazing turnaround to address the emergency that came up and they've been awesome in getting those books out to people. teachers are emailing and saying, is there any way I could get some books from you and I think that's what I miss the most system coming in and getting the books. So now that you guys have. Figured, out a way to distribute books, emily, can you talk a little bit about the APP school network in your community partners and the sites that you deliver books to and what I found interesting on your website was it's not just just go based. Thank you as rain was talking. She mentioned that we've worked with all sorts of different forms of distributing out books to get kids who need them. With kids being out of school, they're not having the same sort of access to reading rich environments. They don't have the books in home, and so because we are based in a decommission school building, we don't have it set up solid kids come to get books from US typically, and so now we're relying on our educators to be the point people that we're bringing books to, and they're distributing them. Out to the different cavs, and that's why we're working with a variety of organizations like SST gotten eight thousand books to distribute out in their lockout distribution and distance learning packets to children in pre K.. Through second grade, we've been working with food banks and homeless shelters, different organizations that are serving our most vulnerable populations to ensure that they're making sure that the children that base are have access to bucks. Reset you've been with the Organization for decades I would love to have you share with the audience. Would you feel has been the biggest impact that the project is made in our community over the? Thanks I have not actually been with the Organization for decades although some of our board members have an interestingly enough they've been involved in it as clients. So we have a physician with the Department of Public Health who's on the board, and she was a client for over two decades. She worked at a public health clinic on Silver Avenue and once every two weeks or so she would go down to the book side on Napoleon Avenue and collect books that were appropriate for her constituency Spanish speaking children people would come with their kids for a well child check, but they couldn't afford babysitter. So they'd bring all the cousins and our nonprofit is unusual in that we. Will give as many books as people need unlimited free to keep, and so she set up a book shelf and a stash in her office and gave away books for years, and then she hold me into the project about six years ago when the landlord tripled the rent and the founder was considering retiring because of illness in the family and a group of US had kitchen table meeting and someone said, I know someone at the San Francisco, unified, school district maybe they'll give us a space and so within the space of a few weeks, we through a retirement party got a space about five and a half years ago in this decommission school in the outer sunset. and. From that time and before the twenty eight years of the projects history, we are on the cusp of giving away our three million spoke. and. We know that when children have books at homeless shelters who take them when they have them in the schools and school libraries and classroom libraries when teachers who have a low budget and afford to fill those classrooms. It makes an enormous difference and we know that because we get beautiful letters where my staff weeps from the children but also from teachers and the teachers tell us sometimes when they give children books, it's the first book in the home, and that speaks to the incredible economic disparity in are very wealthy city in the surrounding environs. There are families who really cannot afford books and we are filling their homes with books and it's an enormous impact and I. I would mention we have a separate little program within the project that not only gives books, but we teach best practices in reading. Aloud to children, parents reading aloud, and we have a special income stream to buy very special books for that her best for parents who may not even be english-speakers or literate buying books with faces that they can read to their kids and it makes an enormous difference organizations joined that program and then they serve hundreds of thousands of families. So our reach has been incredible and we also never turn anyone away. So it started in San Francisco and expanded to the Greater Bay area. We serve up to Marin down to San Mateo but when people have driven hours from Tracy Modesto San Jose. Turlock and they arrived about half an hour before we're closing. We let them in they stay late and they not bring rolling suitcases and they take away as many books all free all for the educators or the organization serving kids or the children to sleep and to own and the site you know one day after the pandemic, maybe you'll come to the site and see the beautiful cards from teachers and from. Children's saying thank you. I love this book and do you have another one about dinosaurs? You so marine, could you share with the audience one of your favorite stories been with your organization awhile as well? So teach your child. Think, the thing that happens over and over again is on Wednesdays and the first Saturday I always am at the book site it helping to do a variety of things. But one of my favorite things to do is help teachers and community people pick out books to take with them, and for people who come for the first time they're like kids in a toy store like. Wow at and I can in their free and I can I can take as many as I want. The joy is just they're just amazed that somebody is giving them something for their classroom. So many teachers come in and say I'm a new teacher there were no books in my classroom when I got to my classroom an. Afford to buy them this is such a gift. Thank you so much and so then it's really fun we get to them pick out books. What are you looking for? We have awesome volunteers some retired teachers that Sam K., what grade level let me help you find the books and watch people walk out. Wow I got all these books. My kids are GonNa, be so excited when school is in school gets back in session but. The joy is just immeasurable. There's no way to really quantify how. Rewarding it is to see somebody who worked so hard at what they do and be able to take these books with them to give to their kids. It's all about their students and how creative they are, what they're looking for and community groups are awesome. There's a community group that works jail ministry that takes books to the jail for the parents to read into a tape recorder that is then given to the children with the book. So they can hear their parents read them a book. And those people are amazing. It's an amazing place to be in an I. Wish more people knew about it. Is No crying in baseball but maybe this crying and children's literacy I'll tell you another story that Kathleen. Site Manager told me you know we get a hundred, fifty thousand or so books donated to us a year in every single one of them has to be touched by our volunteers or staff to count them, and then to sort them into these seventy eight. Had IT. So that when a teacher or anyone comes in and wants a leveled book, which is the school district or school term for your more than a grade level but very specific or they want a book on dinosaurs or they want a book on science. My staff and the volunteers have touched every single book and recently a teacher walked in and said, there was a very withdrawn troubled head with an unusual name and half lean went into the back room where she keeps special stuff for people if they have a special request or even if they just tell her story and there was a book with the child's name in the title and the teacher burst into tears and said, this is going to change him. This is gonNA open him up an open, the door. That's why what we do. It's a little bit of mothers note. Thank you wonderful stories. So Emily and resent how can people get involved? What are the things that you guys need at point out? Okay. We'll take the first set for our most immediate pressing mead. We're still getting out about twelve thousand books just since the down that's more than we typically get out in a month with our book site Oban in these books are going again to organizations that are serving Ted's GonNa add one more story that I just recently heard about a middle school social worker who had a student who just moved to San. Francisco right before the shutdown. and. Their family in a shelter, they don't have access to Internet. She loves reading and she doesn't have any friends here yet, and this is her first experience of San. Francisco. And we were able to get her fourteen fifteen books that she really loved that she's able to escape into to find herself then and feel good and so just like the story that Maureen in recent mentioned, it's the tiny moments that were reaching cads and helping them learn and discovered and become better versions of themselves, not just for literacy attainment, but also as they build character. and. So that's one of the reasons we need folks right now is most of the time we're dependent on book drives from Girl Scouts and Eagle Scouts, their bins all across the city where people donate their gently used well, loved books for us to then take in organized sort on, and we're not getting those books in right now but we're still getting those books out. So we are in desperate need of picture books, early readers and books in. Spanish in particular because we need to have books in languages that were serving, we also really need books. have inclusive themes in diverse characters to represent children that are reading them. We have wish-lists curate now on bookshop dot org, which is for independent book stores and shares proceeds, and you have the link for that beyond that we all suggests need funds in general for longer term goals and all at Reset Tata. So our two biggest needs are a new space and funding to run the project and for books and the space issue. Is Paramount. The school district about five and a half years ago, gave us a free space in this decommissions will but it's being torn down for a much needed affordable housing for educators and teachers project. So we have no space after February, twenty twenty one and we have met several times with the school district. But right now they don't have anything in mind for us. So we have a twenty eight year old project where we receive normally one, hundred, fifty, thousand books donated to us the books without children without even having to strain to get those books because people know us where sort of a San Francisco Bay area institution and that will all disappear if we don't find another space. So if people know up spaces within a city organization, maybe there is something free within the San Francisco. Unified School district maybe they know property manages or landlords who can donate. A space or have a modest rent that a very shoestring non profit that amazingly gives away one point, nine million dollars, worth of books to schools and other organizations serving kids every year. If they can find a space, we need two thousand square feet at minimum will take a much larger space because we're prepared to expand. We need an elevator because books are heavy member hundred, fifty, thousand come in every year or a ground floor. With, a ramp and we need some modest amount of parking because people are rolling away those heavy suitcases or sometimes taking away the books the unlimited books in boxes we need plundering just simply to run the project and funding. At. This time of coded because those hundred fifty thousand bucks that generally Poran can't because of shelter in place, and so we need to purchase books and particular. We need Spanish language books we need early readers, board books and picture books. We also need to increase our pool of funders. There's a whole world of foundations out there that are opaque meaning grant applications by invitation. Only if there are people out there who know of foundations and can contact them and say, this is a wonderful organization doing serious work with changing people's lives with improving their access to books into literacy and making them you know successful members of society. have. Them introduced us to those foundations so that we can apply and those are our needs and also go to our website or go fund me, and you can donate modest soames if you don't know foundations to refer us to or sites to give us and that's basically what we need. To thank you, emily in recent marine for sharing all about the Children's book project in your work. Today. Will make sure that viewers have your contact information website social media. So people can follow the Children's book, project. In, getting engaged in, please stay safe and healthy out there as we all work our way through this new normal. 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RV Podcast 307: Who says you cant boondock in a big rig?

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RV Podcast 307: Who says you cant boondock in a big rig?

"This week and the V. podcast. We talk about boone docking in a big rig. Philo travelers, it's time for another episode of the RV podcast. Jen's sharing tips suggesting great trips in off the beaten path adventures and always stay on top of the RB lifestyle news. You need to know about with great interviews and insight industry information. Hosts, award winning journalists, Mike, and Jennifer. Wenlin. Everybody welcome to another edition of the RV podcast. This week, we talk about one of the big myths that is out there myth. It says via can't Boondock in a big rig or we're going to spell that in our interview, the week segment coming up stay with us. We got lots to talk about and no matter what kind of an our view. How whether? Whether. It's a motor home or a trailer, we are for you because here we talk about getting out there in our RV, join God's amazing creation and meeting interesting people own documenting and this covering fun places and always using the right here technology to enhance the RV lifestyle. So Welcome, we are very honored that you chose to put us in your ears this week. Or this is episode number, three, hundred and seven. Being released on the The what is it? The twelfth of Holy Cows August? Kansas? Halfway boy, I was going to say, Hey, we're and I wanted to August. But it's halfway over this being released August twelve, twenty twenty, and we are coming to you from our sticks and bricks house, and we got lots to talk about questions really interesting. Interesting. New Question that a lot of oldies don't know about either we'll talk about their deaths, a lot of experience winds down to about. Just. The proper way to put your valves, your black and gray valve. When you're camped for a long time at a at a campground, we'll talk about that and we got a good report from Burkitt's but. With me always my lifelong traveling companion and my bride Jennifer how Madeira? Hello. My Michael it is hot out there. It's been hot ever. Since we were home I think I've been hot all year. We've been hot. You are by nature my dear. But we have been hot and warm since February voice and. I mean we went to quantum falls cold. Now West and then we went south and I think I've had like one week here of cool weather in folks out there i. like cool weather. We do warm too. But I like my snow. Well, we're coming up to our favorite time of year, which is fall autumn love, and I just put really interesting blog post up on RV. Lifestyle. Dot Com about twenty of. The best state parks fall travel for fall RV travel and I've got another one we're working on for probably next week on. Where to see leaves and the colors. But you noticed today here, August twelfth, you notice the leaves changing already? Yes. Not just a little bit. I. Mean a very vibrant orange red. Isn't that amazing? How fast that's happening? It's still very warm where we are. We're recording this from Michigan from our sticks and bricks in. Michigan. We've been here since late June. After being spending, most of the pandemic lockdown down in Florida along the Gulf coast, and we're actually thinking about going back down to the Gulf coast in a couple of times thinking about. But then we want to spend much of September and October in the upper peninsula of Michigan. So do we go down to Florida and then come right back I've got a couple of stories we want to do on route down there How we have all these decisions. Decisions, we're going places on somewhere. We got some plans. So hope wherever you are that you are enjoying, it is lot of stories about how crowded our national parks. Ben. Man, isn't that incredible because The. People a lot of people from out of the country can't come in. So this is all all local. Yeah. So good 'cause I want the people that live in this country to experience it, and you know it's going to get even better. We've historian RV, lifestyle dot com today about the great American's outdoor, the Great American outdoor, active twenty, twenty, one of the few things. If not, the only thing I have seen Congress, actually agreeent the president signed into law billions will be spent now on. rehabbing. And refurbishing, and repairing our national parks and public lands, and this is something we've been reporting on a lot here on the podcast in on our realized dot com travel blog, and it's coming true. They going to actually start to see some of that money. They say by October good and that means are going to be repaired campgrounds are going to be upgraded. Water system has improved. I mean, it's generators, then every park? No, no. Do that Oh. That'd be horrible. would be horrible. Don't give anybody the idea that that would be a good thing to do. So anyway, we're all excited about that and. Hope wherever you are that you're staying safe. But we also hope that you're able to get out there in an RV, which of course, is the social distancing number. One safe place I think in North America, RV's ahead of our times Mike we were. We were socially distant before it was cool. Yeah. That's it. All right. Let's get down to the news of the. Week. Loose. Mike Scott News. US. Inside Information. That she? Lifestyle years the RV news of the week the. Parks and recreation department now adds a surcharge to out of state residents wanting to use its campgrounds. The surcharge works out to about a thirty percent price hike making a full service campsite cost forty, two dollars for out of state residents compared to the previous thirty, three dollars. Caused, a tent site will increase to twenty three dollars from nine hundred dollars a site and the state hopes to raise five hundred thousand dollars from the new fees to make up for lost revenue from when the campgrounds were closed earlier this year because the covid nineteen, it also hopes to encourage people to stay closer to home. The surcharge will be applied to new reservations and first come first serve campers and will remain in place for the rest of the year. Do you think ever take it away I? Doubt? Taking away So that would certainly keep me from going to Oregon I. Mean, that's well. KOA Some KOA's at forty, five dollars a night. But everybody pays that I. You know I mean you want tourists to come in, you know don't make. I bet every state will start doing this. Now I hope not if they're not already hope not not to, but you know that's why. So many of US boondocks. Victimized by these these money grabs like that. Hey, I don't understand they gotta make up off money, but that's pretty that's pretty discriminatory and I guess that would certainly keep people from going to Oregon maybe some the. Tennessee. If. That's the case. How are they gonNA make another half million dollars because they're telling people. You know you're not very welcome here. Anyway I, know you Oregon people want the money, but that's okay. There there are forty nine other states Let's see. This is is pretty interesting the numbers in and it is official more Americans than. Are Giving the RV lifestyle to try the RV industry recorded. Get. This we've been talking to how every month is better and better and better. Last month, the best sales month ever actually was in June. 'CAUSE, they're too much in delaying in letting their statistics out. June sales increased sixteen point five percent over last year's total forty, one, thousand, six, hundred, ninety, nine units sold in, and that doesn't even include numbers from a bunch of states that are late in responding and replying like Arizona, which is a big RV state. Colorado certainly Maryland Missouri Oregon and Vermont. America's are really buying RV's and totals in the numbers support what we've been hearing for months more and more people camping as a result of covid nineteen. and. If you want to look at how camping has changed this year. We. wrote a post about this on our RV lifestyles travel blog and I will put a link to it in the show notes, just go to RV lifestyle dot com slash three zero seven and scroll down to the news of the week, and then you'll see a link RV lifestyle, dot com slash three, zero, seven, the annual preside meteor showers expected to peak this week, and if you can get outside to watch, you don't WanNa miss it up to one hundred shooting stars. Stars can be seeing per hour during its peak. It should be visible all this week. A good strategy is to look up as late in the evening as possible. But before the Moon rises, the preside meteoroid shower is visible every year when the earth drifts through debris, cloud left from comment, and we have lots of links on that and including what I'm put in the show notes for this episode about photographing the night sky, lot of us love to do that and. That's always a fun post. A lot of people enjoy. So you can check that out too at life dot com slash three, zero seven. We saw reports last week out of British, Columbia about people vandalizing camping. Trailers with the words, no camping and COVID. Nineteen About two weeks ago. There was a story in the news from North Island Campground where somebody actually spray painted go home on a campground sign. And in the latest report that we saw the camping trailer targeted wasn't even being used. The border between Canada and the US of course is closed for non essential travel, and that's what RV travel is considered. Camping an RV, is essential. So Americans can't over there to camp and they're not supposed to come across into the US either. And that's likely. I think that's supposed to expand ex expire the end of this month or sometime this month, but there's talk of that being extended as well. Technically, it's possible to sneak in. We've seen stories of that happening, but we want to remind you again that not every community as we saw in war in Oregon, not every community wants out of town visitors at this time. Because of a surge in covid nineteen cases, California state parks temporarily close Turlock Lake, state recreation area. Campground. Last week, Hawaii has also closed campgrounds and parks until September, fourth because of rising covert nineteen numbers, but big Bend National Park, which opened and then closed because of Cova cases and the residential park area is now open again for day use. Only as we've said, before keeping track of what is Oakland, and what isn't requires a scorecard, this campaign season, and as always we recommend you check with compendium, which is doing a good job of staying up to date to see. See what things are like. Before you head out, we'll put a link to the open closed list at RV lifestyle, dot com slash three, zero seven. That's RV lifestyle. Dot Com slash three. Oh seven is part of the podcast is brought to you by Rod Power, bikes. America's number one e Bike brand offering direct to consumer pricing and powerful premium electric bikes perfect for our fears, and if you order from Rad power bikes, come you get free shipping, they make whole bunch of different bike models fits. 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If you mentioned RV lifestyle at checkout, they'll take an additional seventy, five dollars off plus free shipping. We said, and all bike models use that coupon code RV lifestyle, an additional seventy, five dollars off visit, Rad power bikes dot com. Questions, you've got Mike, and his network of RV reporters have the answers. Questions. Is Question for this week, comes from our RV lifestyle facebook group from a member named Jerry who asks when camping with full hookup, do leave black and gray valves open or do you leave them closed and drain as needed to help flush out the drain hose? That's a good question, and it's one with pretty much I. Think Universal Agreement by experienced, veers, Jerry. Everyone agrees that while you may have your dump hose hooked up to the sewer drain at your campsite, the. Black tank valve should be closed unless you are actually trying to empty it completely. What you don't want is you don't want that valve open. So it's sort of like quote free flowing. Now as far as the grey valve goes the majority of people say that should probably stay closed to although there are a few who liked to leave it open if you're taking a lot of showers so it doesn't fill up that gray tank. Our advice is to leave it closed as well. And the reason is that when it is time to empty your black tank, which has some rather unsightly, an old, a very odorous solids in it, right? When you empty that black tank, you want a good strong flow of gray water to help kind of flush out any of the solids that may be left as residue in that drain hose. So. There's a lot of people that weighed in on that question. We had I, think over fifty As I was putting this this podcast together, and just some examples Becca says, if you leave your black tank, the sewer smell could come up into your camper. I don't know if that's true because usually they're vented pretty good. But that certainly is a possibility depends on how? Airtight that that hose is in the tank. For. The grave valve says David. Ours stays open I usually close it on a travel day or the day before we leave, let it fill a bit and then I, dump right before I leave gives a good flush out. From Stuart Black. Tank. Almost always. Closed always closed except when dumping gray is open the whole time and then closed when I predict showers and dishwashing, we'll give me a nearly full tank to flush the hoses after I emptied the black tank. From Jean, keep them both closed until you ready to dump. We learned the hard way too much solid stuff from the black tank left in the hose. And from Maria. We live in both closed until we're ready to leave, and then we emptied the black i. then we closed the black valve. Then we clean out the black with our santee flush system. That's a option that kind of flushes out the black tank many RV's have with them. Then we clean out the black again, and then we empty the gray and by emptying the black first, then the grey, it cleans out the hose, and then we then use another hose to hose out the sewage hose before we started away. Can you tell we're super hyper vigilant about a clean Sui Jerry and host? I. It's good. Advice Maria. So there you go. bottom line I, think keeping both closed. You can keep the gray open. But when you do empty the black you WanNa, make sure you have enough water in the gray tank to flush that out, and this might be a good time to warn people what we experienced the seal on the toilet often those. They the rubber ring, the rubber. Yeah. And they go bad and then. Sewer smell comes up into your rig and you don't know where it's coming from and it's a pretty simple fix. Any dealer will know it. Here's the way to tell pour a little bit of water in your toilet, but without completely opening it. So it all drains down and if the water level is empty after a few minutes, you know that that ring that seal on the inside of your toilet is not a tight seal and there's the water's getting through. So older could yeah, and then we also heard we were told that you can get by this. Awful to put in there to keep it. Playa machine that has shows at RV shows we bought some. Help at all I. Don't think it helped. Maybe we were too far gone with the seal by the time we got that, but that was something we experienced a lot for years and we never knew quite what was wrong with the smell, and that's why they say when you should always have an inch or two of water, right in the toilet of your RV I'm sorry if anybody's eating lunch. Or dinner as we're talking about. But you should always have an inch to a water just as your toilet at home has water in, it keeps odors coming through. So it will help in your RV. newbie stuff, but a while to figure that out takes us a while to figure out anything. Years. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, Hey, thank you. For those questions. We love getting your questions. In fact You can also have your voice featured asking your question. Travelers. Voice featured on the podcast. Questions or comments sending audio file to Mike it RV lifestyle, dot com or better yet. Use Our RV podcast voicemail number five, eight, six, three, seven, two, six, nine, nine, zero, five, eight, six, three, seven, two, six, nine, zero, we to hear you call five, eight, six, three, seven to sixty, nine, nine, hundred. Aspired the RV podcast is brought to you by battle born batteries maker of quality safe reliable lithium batteries that can be installed in just about every. RV, get in touch with battle born to find out what lithium batteries and an upgraded energy management system can add to your RV lifestyle. You can check them out at RV lifestyle, dot, com, slash lithium, RV lifestyle, dot, com, slash lithium. We are big fans of battle boards. We have just two of them in hours and the kids as all of the power we need to get out there and to stay out there. Lithium batteries those really are the standard now for. A. Particularly those who like to be out off the grid and they charge faster, they charge fuller. They're longer lasting. They're totally maintenance free they. They have a ten year guarantee battle born does and they fit in just about any kind of a that you want to listen to the interview coming up in, just a minute are going to be of the week We're talking about big rigs and Boondock in both of these. These folks have big rigs are able to Boondock for days and days because they have battle born lithium batteries then planet that way. Way It's SORTA worked out it's not that interview is not a sponsor for them at all for battle. But battle born is the choice I. Think for those who are buying aftermarket lithium batteries They're just simple to install They do a really great job. No matter what kind of an Rv you have. The can probably find a battle born battery that will just drop right in and replace it, and they're great for your extended Boondock Adventures giving you good. Reliable power, check them out. Just, go to RV lifestyle, dot com slash lithium RV lifestyle, dot, com slash lithium. Time. Now, for the RV podcast interview of the week. Interesting, entertaining, and helpful information about the RV lifestyle. Here's my this week's interview. We have actually two interviews why we have an interview and then we have. Have kind of a report that that I ask us some friends of ours to do for us. If I will start with the with the report there's this myth going around about camping, boone docking, and big rigs. The People Think, oh, we can't boondock because we don't have a class B Camper van or we don't have a Class C R R rates to. To be your big is not to you, you have to be a little more careful going into remote places with a big rig, a big fifth wheel, a big toil a big class-a. But if you can get out there, you can boondock, and so we want to have a little fun with that and and in addition to our friends, they both are other are. influencers as they call us all these days and the first you've met before and I just ask ask them to give us a quick update on how they are able to Boondock in their big rig, and they're they're folks. You know it's mark and Julie Bennett from RV. Love. They are in a big class A, and do they boondock you better? Believe it Let's listen in as as mark and Julie. Tell us about their big rig boondock experiences. Hey, Mike this is mark and Julie from. RV Love because our two cents on what it's likely Funaki risks are large RV. One of the things we love about it is that it's huge tanks for capacities. One hundred gallons of freshwater in, it's got solar and lithium. And it is I forty cross a diesel pusher. Mutter harm. And perhaps, our biggest limitation is docking is where we can go because it's fairly low clearance in a really long wheelbase. We have to be very mindful of where we're GONNA, go wound docking. But if you do research in advance, we can find some really amazing places that are off grid and stayed there for extended periods of time as this almost like we're floods in. Such a robust offers systems. But so when the pandemic broke yet in much in the Seltzer in place. We happen to be in court. which is a Boondock Mecca, and if anybody wants to try to do look to the facade courtside. tastic place to do it because it's really set up for the we liked about it is at Monahan very heavy. What does that way Roy or more? We thirty, two, thousand pounds fully loaded. But of course, I'd had a rocky surface. So it doesn't take up as much dust in. It's much better supporting larger RV. Now, of course, that's the prime time to go down there in the winter, January through March don't go there in the summer. So we would in and cousin happening. We just go well shelter in place. We'll just daily out. So we actually make a say me a couple of days, but we ended up saying five weeks off the grid in Class A forty foot. FOOT motor on tablet by us all the panels at Lincoln battery. That'll an end. We had really big holding tanks for water and waste. So we can't once after two weeks ago and dumping fill at Camp Grant downtown came back and we actually did another twenty days. So we did all up five weeks before we hit it up to Colorado to get into a campground and cooler temperatures. But we love to talking be agreeing just have to be a little bit more organized with planning and a lot easier in the West in the east. But we did a whole album remodel off degreed actually unafraid property in origin, our ultimate Avi Makeover, and that was pretty cool to be. Using power tools and doing around the Renault that Totally doable. Loving nothing. Love Abbie Greek and hope that helpful for right for you listen to the house. Thanks for all. You do look forward saying you. All. Right. Thanks again, guys. Thank you. That's mark and Julie Bennett from RV law though you can check them out at RV Love Dot Com. They have a great website and a book they wrote. They've kind of wrote the book on are being. You know they're doing really well, and they're big class in fact I. think that's why we went. We went to, of course I read after they read before they were there and and then they came we just missed CNN. But we usually ran a couple times a year, and there we talked to him a lot. But the lack of shows we won't be seeing them. Yeah. We used to run the all this used to run together and meet up at all the RV shows and was no RV shows happening. It's. GotTa. Miss. I keep thinking. We should do a gathering of just the influencers and have us all just put our hair down and hang out and. But we can't even do that was social media. Thank you, mark and Julie for sharing your experience with your forty foot class-a diesel pusher. They are out there all the time and they they love it. They love it and. So is the next couple that you're GONNA meet and this this next couple The known as on the Internet as the get away couple, the getaway couple It's Jason and Ray, Miller and They are in A. Fifth Wheel and it is a big one. But wait till, you see how they have outed this for boone docking. We caught up with him. They were in the upper peninsula of Michigan and I. Believe they were doing some boondock up in the wilds there and we asked them the help talk about the challenges and the do ability of Boondock in a big rig. So meet our friends Jason and Ray. Miller the getaway couple what joining us now is the getaway couple. Jason, and Ray, and the guys I'm delighted to get you on the podcast. So we've been talking about this for a long time. We have I'm so glad our schedules have finally matched up. We're happy to be here. Do and and you guys are coming to someplace from like our favorite place in the whole world, which is the upper peninsula of Michigan right now. So you're enjoying this beautiful summer weather up there. Gas We are it is. It's. One of our favorite places in the world as well? We just love Michigan. We spent the the end of spring up here. Last year, just passing through because we had no other plans That are other plants fell out and we just happened to be in Indiana in. So so it was like we'll go with your Michigan and the upper peninsula. So he did it and we just fell while last year. So we're very. Very happy to be out here. Yes. I've. We think we're going to spend probably September and October up there, and then we always go up in January for snow. So well, that's great. Well, we've got a link to your to your all your media platforms and people can follow you rate in the show notes for this episode, and they'll they'll be able to go up and maybe some of those awesome photos from. God's country is what they call the up of Michigan. I WANNA. I WanNa talk to you guys. In a minute about. Boondock ing with the big rig because that's what you have. But for my audience at that, maybe not real familiar with the getaway couple they will be follow that link but introduce yourself a little bit. Tell us how long do you guys have been RV and what What do you guys? You know? Why are you doing this lifestyle? What's? What everybody kind of has a little specialty that we all do and and tell us of what what you guys are excited about. Yup, absolutely. So we've been full time on the road for just over three years we originally from Los Angeles California, and we both were kind of into the make as much money. As you possibly can lifestyle That is very common in Los. Angeles. You're keeping up with the JONESES getting US newer car, the bigger house But we very very much loved travel brain. I actually went to the same high school and we were in. German. Ford Exchange Program, and so we traveled overseas pretty early and just kind of. Really fell in love with travel in general. So we would also take every single hour of vacation that we got from our company every year. And, we'd be planning out. You know two three years in advance to make sure that'd be take all of our vacation time So we actually started. Getaway couple just. Doing that taking vacation overseas and then when we got married. We took a month and a half off of work and did a big honeymoon. We pretty much spent just as much money on our honeymoon. We did on the wedding. was important to us, and so we were we were away from work for so long that something clicked. We're on a cruise ship in the middle of the Greek islands, just looking out at these small islands go by and we were like. What are we doing going to work every day like any travel and so then? We, started watching travel youtubers like travel the world, and all that we're starting to play in the same up to hit the road full-time Just travel. You know in a suitcase, and then we got a dog that we absolutely fell in love with. In, we're like, how can we traveled with his dog? And just a recommended video came up. I. Think it was gone with the winds and it was them traveling in your RV in being la, we don't really have a lot of art we. We can't because the weather is always nice not to worry about free thunderstorms rolling in So, we've never really been gone, are being thought about it, and so we saw video, you can live in an Rv. You can do this full-time. and. So that kind of sponged down this whole road that end up where we are now where we started I worked remotely. I did cybersecurity able to transition to a remote position? And then we hit the road fairly quickly. Year. Yeah. Within a year. Bought the biggest already, they had on the lot because we're coming from a a house and. We're still in that mindset of we need as much space as we possibly could. Just you know fancy stock. So. So I, literally a lot my hands are shaking because we'd never told something this before and but we've we've made it adds mistakes along the way but. We are well, let's let's talk about that big rig, your hands, shaking How big is it What do you know it with and I take it? Then you never have driven like a B van or? Class CRV just went straight to the big toe will tell tell us how big it is. It's a forty, two, five grand design solitude and where also thirteen feet, six inches tall. So we are long and tall but we do it with a thirty, five, hundred dually diesel Ram. And No, we didn't try out anything else before we just initially thought. We need it the biggest rague. We don't think that now, but we love our floor plan so much which is why we've learned You know. Had a drive in and got a little more on the up and up with all the safety procedures but. Yeah, it's been great So yeah, we neither one of us either either drive D- class senior Obama an before this. Talk about the big question, and we want to really focus on because you guys like. and. There's this myth that is out there that big rigs can't. Boondock. Talk about how you guys Boondock and the challenges that are involved in that and and what you've learned along the way about Boondock with the big rig. Yes, so that was a myth that we believed for a while to. We didn't boondock our first year and a half on the road at all, and then we had some friends, take us out and show us the ropes for our first trip, and then we started to just fall in love with it, and I have to admit I was a little more. Just because I didn't know what to expect him. It was a steep learning curve with learning everything about the rig. So I thought Boondock it was gonna be another steep learning curve, and again, we have mistakes. We had issues by it wasn't as bad as I thought, it was going to be We we use compendium lot to find site second us, and you know past reviewers are super helpful when they let you know what size rig they came with, and then we picked up power bikes are e bikes because we like to use those to go scout so that we're not even bringing are rigged down. Into a precarious situation. We can just ride the bikes down, check it out and decide yes or no. This is where we wanna go and we just learned a couple of tips and tricks along the way, and we made some upgrades to our rate as well. To help with food knocking, we added solar. We added a a nice battery. Bank. We upgraded our suspension system but. Because of those, you don't need all those fancy upgrades. You really can't get out and start wound docking with what you have and just pick up the necessary items along the way, and I would say, boo knocking is actually even easier are right off the bat with a big rig because of your tank sizes asks there's there's less having to. Conserve as much water because we have a one hundred gallon freshwater capacity, and then we have two great hangs fifty gallon capacity and are blasting has fifty gallons passively so. Just, right off the bat, all you can do with by a big. Chick- wheel right off the lie and A. Doesn't come with a generator portable generator and you can get get out there from day one. You do have solar. And I would assume you have batteries talk about your solar, your batteries, your invert or. What what size and? And give us a idea of how on a typical boondock trip. You guys manage your power. Yeah. Absolutely. So when we first started we, we had just are one lead acid battery and would just run our generator all day because I needed to work and then we slowly figured out what we needed. We upgraded just a single drop in battle born battery in that made a huge difference even without adding any other systems. Then we added an additional five battle batteries. Battery. So we have a total of six battleground batteries. Now, for six hundred amp hours of storage, we have a kind of unique system because we full-time and spend a Lotta time off great. Now, we wanted to power every single outlet in Artie, and there's a ton of them. We just continue to find more. So we have a dual. Three Thousand Watt invert or setup victory in Burgers, and we have two of them that running parallel to power every single outlet. and. Then I to recharge those battle or batteries we have. One thousand two hundred watts of solar on the roof by. High. Tech Solar. So I think we're probably going to have a little bit more. There because you can never have too much in my opinion we are not stingy with power whatsoever. So we do. Use a lot every day, and so that's why we saw. Now you're in a northern climate now where the sun is it's summertime, but it's still it's not quite as strong as it is when you're down. South. typical day. How does the batteries? How do they charge during the day and is that completely top them off pretty much at night What about air conditioning unit use with your your system? Are you able to use the without having the generate around? Yes. So we actually have a soft start on each a C to a season Ra, and we are able to run both of them because of the jewel and burder powering each leg, and surprisingly even up here in the north we're doing really well, Jason just opened our color control and we're at ninety nine percent already today. So we're going to get a full charge. and. Even when we'll get a little more conservative, we'll make sure that everything's turned off at night and You know we have a large hard drive that we edit our videos on. That uses a lot of power when they should bats off every night. But other than that, we don't think about it too much, and our panels are tilted right now. That's definitely helping. Yeah. I. Was just going to ask you that that's a great. A great system that you have. Now I'm back to the big rig, though how hard is it for you guys to find those true places where the getaway couple can really get away out there boondocks. So, I'm, not. GonNa lie definitely involves a little bit more work than it does with smaller rigs, but it is one hundred percent manageable. So for us even just finding campgrounds, you kind of have You have to filter out spots that you can't fit in. So so it's no no different than looking for a spot in a campaign that you can sit and we use compendium mostly as race ad for The boondock? Insights. And degreasing that we love about it is people report their rake size. But then also you can take a look at the pictures people post, and soon, try to look for other rigs that are similar size as we are So That's the first step to find narrow down our campground options, and they're still tons. It's just maybe there's ten sites in an area in three of them would fit a big rig. Fateh late view on Google maps also helps, yes. Lesson next episode satellite Google maps, and we kind of just look at the the road in and then try to find what we like to think of is like an escape route. So if we're going down the road, is there somewhere we can turn out or is it just to track road between all of these trees and we kind of have to keep going for miles and miles miles? The turning around a forty two foot since we ought to track is is not fun. So we try. We have had to do one submitted learned our lesson. We try to avoid that as much as possible. So. sled just goes into the planning. But then still once we find the site and we looked at Google maps and we've seen what it kind of looks like we still usually pull over somewhere safe near the entrance before we start going down the. Path of no escape and we pull our power bikes out and we just ride down the dirt road of the to track in kind of just explore. Make sure that everything's still as it looked like on Google maps because you know sometimes those images can be years old and suddenly there's a new forest that sprung up on. Where you thought you had to be clearing or something? Where do you keep your power bikes? So. Our specific Four plan has a raised rear living or which gives us this massive pull out storage in the back of our fifth wheel can like. Yeah. Exactly. So we're able to keep them in there, which is, which is awesome. Keeps them out of the rain out of passer bys view. The foldable Minis y'all got a new RV this year with with the garage and our mice, my big city bikes, I don't fit. So we're looking at Getting rid of those and probably picking up those meetings. I saw your minis when we were at, I think the show, the RV show a back earlier this year in. Tampa. So they look pretty neat. I've one more question and then and then how people can learn more about all of this stuff. But what do you do for Internet? That's the other big thing course in how important that is if you're working from the RV and if you're Boondock, would you do? Absolutely, so my background is in cybersecurity. So I've always been very invested in having the best Internet possibly at and actually recently just upgraded to some enterprise system. But previously, we would just run two separate plans at and T. and verizon unlimited plans and I. Really keep an eye on the mobile internet. Resource Center run by Tech Mattia. Plans and updates, and even before I hit the road, I would keep an eye on that and what they tell you that our plan is unlimited. You know I jumped on it, those clients come and go. So quickly as you now So so I have both horizon and at and T., and we just use the the flagship mobile hotspots that they had for each of them. We switched between the two. Now, we have a whole cradle point system with tennis on the roof. It's kind of crazy but overkill for. A. Hundred percent of people out there. Maybe ninety nine because I'm with you on that to take. Our little twenty, five foot, RV. I've got three system. So I'm with you on this now. Talk about. Something else that you guys are involved with called the RV masterclass and particularly. The. Idea of how to do. Brune, docking and a big rake and briefly give us a quick overview and how how that would for further folks who have big rigs like yours WanNa learn what you have learned. But not go through the bad experience part of all that. How can that help him? Yes. So we started RV masterclass with Tom and Caitlyn from Morton's on the move and Kyle Olivia from driving invite in, and so we've created this online platform and we have three signature courses with our most popular being boondock docking, one one, and so that is for people who have never boondocks or maybe tried it didn't like it and our hesitant. This course will help guide you through thing you need to know. You know from how to find. Waterhouse. Sites have find don't stations, Astor House Scouts, and even safety with wildlife safety with other people. We really just go through everything and walk you what the boondock docking process looks like, and because coming from all of our different perspectives, we were able to cover you know the big rig exception, but then also you know a small travel trailer and just different concerns for different rate types so. It was it was really great because for us, it came about because we were scared of balloon docking and. We were lucky enough to have friends like counter Livia and Tom and kate who are very experienced boone dockers, kind of take some of their wing and show us in person what we need to do and how to do it in. A not everyone has that in. So we kind of wanted to make this course. To help those people didn't have the friends that are youtuber experience boondock extraordinary. Well, we'll put a link to that as well as the getaway couple website and your videos and blog all that will put in the show notes and it has been delightful speaking with the getaway couple Jason and Ray, but in. Learning that big rigs can feed boondock and you guys are proof of that, and by the way I meant to tell you how I love your slogan, your your story brand name for your website. Dare to live the life you've always wanted and you guys are out doing that. It's been great having you on the podcast. Yes, it was our pleasure. Thank you so much for having us. All right, that's your introduction to Jason and Ray. Miller, get away couple we'll put. Everything they talked about in the show notes RV lifestyle, dot com slash three, zero seven also thanks to mark and Julie Bennett our friends from RV. Love for their perspective on big. So you can do it guys. You got a big rig, you can boondock and just follow some of the tips and suggestions. Make sure you know where you're going and call out there and do it interview the week section of the RV podcast brought to you every week by our friends at Sunshine. State are RV'S DOT COM there in Gainesville Florida. But if you go their website, you can check out their huge inventory of used and new vehicles new small motorhomes. That's what sunshine. State. RV'S DOT COM specializes in largest selection you'll find of used small vehicles probably smaller vs probably in north. America complete line. You know they got them all from the Early Nineties to the current year pleasure ways, Winnebago's leisure travel, Coachman, road trek, and more. 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Some of these artists just put a few pieces up in the front yard for the enjoyment of passersby and some devoted an entire lifetime to developing a style and building a world of creative work around it. One such as Mary, Paulson, who lives and works down the road from Ocean isle. Beach North Carolina. The way we heard the story told one of her children brought home a couple of window sashes and one day. She had a message from God to paint, she painted the scene on the glass and took it into the nearby town where somebody promptly purchased it for eighty dollars. No more teasing from the kids. Instead, they began rounding up old windows for her to paint Mary's received other messages. One of which resulted in the doll village, she's built with over six thousand dollars. I wandered through the many outbuildings, each full to bursting with painted windows and other handmade items. One that caught my eye was. Seen. As a retired maternity nurse. I've seen thousands of mothers holding their newborns and I was struck by the fact that this painting in its primitive style perfectly captured the way a mother looks with a new baby in her arms. Later on when we encountered Mary on the lawn I told her about my reaction. She smiled a big beautiful smile and said, I'm so happy it spoke to you. That's what I made it for I felt an instant connection to this warm enthusiastic woman and her exit eastern Trysofi, quickly became a side note to her genuine interest and outgoing nature. Mary's place is made up of a long row of out buildings and a treehouse, the tree houses home to the doll collection, and the other buildings are more or less themed. A couple of them were made up entirely of colored glass bottles cemented together. We saw similar buildings and a lighthouse in the panhandle town, of Carabello, Florida, end at the Chapel, of Jimmy, Ray, and La. CNA GITA near San Miguel de Gen- day Mexico. Incidentally, care about is also home to the reputed smallest police station in the USA. Inside these buildings especially on a sunny day, the light coming through the walls is glorious. Other buildings held collections of coca. Cola memorabilia, dolls, and miscellaneous items. No doubt destined for future pieces of Artwork Interestingly Mary happily sells nearly anything from her stock. So if you need a bright red Barbie doll or a nine, hundred, fifty, eight pennzoil can or even a Barry Goldwater commemorative plate just speak up and make an offer of course, the paintings take up much of the space and are the real showstoppers of visit here. They're all for sale at prices ranging. Ranging from under a hundred bucks to well into the thousands. Mary is a prolific artist and many of her pieces have similar themes, religious woodland, and seashore. We encourage you to visit. Mary is still active and working as a chance to visit with her really makes the stop memorable, and while you're in the area, you might try the selection of modestly priced seafood at Holden beat seafood where they feature fresh items from the local cats for you cook in your RV. Also, not to miss are the excellent homemade ice creams at beaches and cream a few minutes down the road in the other direction. This area of the coast chockablock with small eateries, galleries, and other surprises making it especially warning for those willing to wander a bit off the beaten path. Wraps up another episode of the RV podcast with Lincoln Jennifer wetland new episodes are released every Wednesday in the best way to stay connected to subscribe to the podcast, we rinaldo popular podcast APPS. Then you can also listen on the RV lifestyle dot com travel blog. Happy, trails fellow travelers. We'll be looking for you down the road. I'd everybody. 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Episode #1427: The New Phil Hendrie Show

The World of Phil Hendrie

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Episode #1427: The New Phil Hendrie Show

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I protest the we understand, Margaret can we hear it purely here a little bit? Here's Tom the story of patrol of thirteen heroes. Why are we hearing this because it's about time, people started remembering what these guys went through low these eighty plus years ago. Whatever it's been his Petar. This is Maury day. I'm general Galen Shaw. This is about. Already about baton. People would think that you don't care. What sacrifices were made. Of course. I care what sacrifices were me. I don't understand opening the program. But all of these explosions, you'd think that if you can't about the men who went to their to their graves. That's what memorial we can is about. Yes and women. Well, this was baton and women. All right. Because the great many, nurses, lost their lives, and we're also prisoners of war following the battle there at baton m curricular and the Bataan death much. Now, I don't know. I'm sure there were there today with the nurses on a death March to now then I don't know about. I don't know man, why not probably. Probably better manners than that. You look at a Walker woman to death. You'll just go ahead and just go ahead and put a bayonet in her. Oh my God. I didn't say that, folks. This is a bad start. I wanted to just play that music. Because this is Memorial Day and Memorial Day now. Loyd was on stage last night. God bless him. He's very elderly. But he got up on stage at UC last night, and I'm told it was quite a remarkable performance by Loyd as he talked about the meaning of Memorial Day. Well, yes, he talked about the meaning of a memorial weekend and said, essentially that memorial weekend is indeed, for those who have who have fallen in their service to our country. So they're not veterans yesterday was talking about excuse me. So they're not veterans will yes, they are veteran, but they're dead veterans, right? Yeah. Maybe did now we'll hold on from it. Phil Hendrie's father is dead. Phil Hendrie's brother is dead. But they did not die in battle. Yes. So is memorial weekend for them. I think it is. I think it's for all the veterans who have passed on. But maybe I could be wrong. I think it was. I think it was started for the full of veterans that died incumbent. Yeah. That's that's my understanding of the situation. Thank you very, very much that having been said Loyd was on stage. And he told everyone that to this is about Veterans Day is for guys like me. I'm a veteran but I'm still alive and you can come up to me. Yeah. You can go up to general Shaw and lick 'em up one side and down the next and tell him what a big hero. He is. There are two month before. Well, that's what you're talking about. No. If you wanna come up to me and say, general Shaw, thank you very much for you. Didn't save me you didn't save the entire country. But the little sliver of the country that you did save. I might have been in it. And so therefore, I do thank you for my very life. Oh my God. God, sir. Serious fell. There's a point where you get. Anyone folks welcome to this world finis, Phil Henry show, Memorial Day edition, and today we're going to have we'll be hearing from the people who are on stage there. You see Mr. Henry on Saturday night. Upright citizens brigade. Yes. Upright citizens. Brigade was the site of the Phil Hendrie infringe she'll on Saturday night. The upright citizens brigade theater. They are on sunset. Now excuse me on sunset. It was filled. It was Lloyd bona fide, who's very elderly, but was able to take the stage and talk about the things that general Shaw describes, and then we also had Jay Santos of the citizens police, and Ted bell, Jay, and Ted will be along right, bud. Yeah. Definitely understanding jammed telling me on to talk about what they talked about and everything like that. All right. And excuse me. I just specked by lip so that put that in with the part where I'm going and starting and put the smacking of a lift very ladylike. Anyway. That's coming up here on the world famous Phil injury show. Right. And. All right. We'll take a break. We'll do a commercial way. Usually goes of here we go. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, thanks. And then we'll and yet it'd go commercial. You mean go a commercial, then it's gonna with. All right. So, yeah. Hey, you know, be a little bit less. People can see that you're playing at that doesn't mean people could see you're putting it on. Okay. Well, all right. Let me count it down three to one. You don't do that you stuff. All right. Three to one. Oh, yeah. Well, all right. So no, no, no, no, no. Give out to it myself. Folks will be right back here in the world famous Phil Hendrie show. Bob turlock games brings you. 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Dances till the ask gives out available on Corsica records types. Got to be put me putting you on a great dances, tiller gives out. I didn't pick the title that filled it Brian changing a week. No, probably we will change it. I guarantee you that I welcome back here, folks on this Memorial Day show, this general Galen, Sean. And by the way, this would you please tell me, this is the soundtrack to the movie. Baton. Lousy stick it. Get a movie engine of dead film, ladies and gentlemen of baton, starring the very ruggedly handsome, Robert tiller. Yes. Ends with him on a machine gun mowing, down countless, Japanese soldiers and using the m word. Liam word. It starts with 'em and ends with wine and repeatedly throughout the film there at the tail end of it. That was the way the country wasn't those days. You can't change things you can't change it. That's still way it was you might as well try to hold back Niagara Falls. I'm general Galen Shaw. Oh my God. You almost said the n word the what you almost said you might as well hold back, ni. Maybe I did not you slander. You're trying to swim to me. All right. Well, let me just making sure all right, folks. All right. Get over it general. I'll I'll get over something. Don't worry. What does that mean? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. We've got to get to this because fill, so that if we don't he's going to set fire to the studio with us lucked in it. Oh my. So folks when I get on the line here now the two principals in the show there at upright citizens brigade the other night. And of course, we had Ted bell along with along with Jay Santos of the citizens. Zillion auxiliary police talked much. All right. I'm sorry. Jay Santos of the citizens auxiliary police, we'll get back to the world famous filling ratio. It's time out of visit ten bell from Ted's of Beverly Hills via K Santos come up as well. How's it going out there? Sean, everyone, we had a wonderful tender UCB, and I was the host of the program, and I want to clarify the things that I said, because they were. The rough he paid a little bit pleaded that I like it. I'm not going to hear about this one. Well, you know what I mean? When I got a little rough when I was I've seen I was describing to the audience how we got to the place that we got to get them that wanna put the meat in a mouse. Right. No. You know, if I tell you, this pigment, once they tell you this million base that how to put the meat into the mouth, you are describing the various permutations, right? Where did you hear about it? I heard about it from bud and everybody. Well, yeah. And, and the audience seemed to respond to it, but I wanted to clarify little bit if I could get you on in just a second. We want to talk about that in just a second, but we went also welcome aboard here. Jay set us who's with the citizens, auxiliary police and is he also is in charge of describing to the audience there and the other night, the security apparatus, I guess, for the the net the concert, but for the show Jay, it's general Shaw. Hey, dr. Great. And we got Ted bell here. Hey, Jay how're you booth? How you hold them after the other night, I'm doing okay here we had a and I think. It was difficult for me to of spit out everything I wanted to get out and, and have everybody understand it. Do you feel that people understood you j I think they did. And then I realized that the tail end I was see some stuff that a lot of stuff receiving was was well, hold on. Let me let me be the interpreter of this. Let be host the interview. All right. And I'm fine with that. But I I don't wanna have head kill everybody. I send like. Say that you sounded anyway. But you were talking for instance you were saying that you're gonna fire a flare gun off. I say we have fire off a flare gun in the only way you can see very clearly inside a darkened theater, if you play fired a flare, the flare gun off the only way you could see don't want. How's that all my God? He doesn't want to have to explain it that. Yeah, you should fine. You may think you have to turn on lights. But when you turn on the lights, you get a lot of shadows over everything. And I was saying if it gets to that, and that we had to do it, but if it gets to it, I would fire off a flare gun deer in the theater, and we will see it. What, what is it does your you? You're gonna get to. What are you free is going to happen, Jay? Well, I mean, we're talking about people getting trampled, and there'd be like a stampede or something, right? I was afraid. We buy if they if the show is so rotten people wanted to get to get the accident. Yeah, she'll so Rodman, it's out of your safe. Hey, I gotta deal realities. Okay. I'm Jay chancers. Police my, my thing is route. We -ality. Okay. Well, I'm Ted bell from Beverly Hills, would I have to deal in those realities, people generally don't want to eat less being, what would you go? We thought about you swallow your. L. J. I saw my hills. All right. That's fine. But. Jay would let me ask you guys wanted to types of j you use. You talked about deferring a flare gun off. What else? The thing I mentioned was to I talk about major L the student and the history citizens auxiliary police, and I try to clear up a couple of things the Dan Amora episode, the infant Jan Amora. Oh, this is where you guys missed those two escaped convicts we get it. I cop to it because I know people have been talking about it a lot of people talking about the fact that these two guys excuse me, not to give us a whole put unanimous. Hyun of this. Eric, please. Now, this was one of those two escaped convicts dental and got out and walk down the street right behind your checkpoint. That is true. They embarrassed to say, but they did their walking right behind our check point. And we're sitting here we're playing grab ass. And I told the audience, I say we were playing grab ass grabbing each other's house playing grab a escalates to escape one of both of them are killers. I'll I didn't know that both of them both of these men killed. Okay. They murdered people. And one of them, I think, wanted to Trump the body. I don't know what it was. All right. So let's suffice to say it was pretty bad. Very bad. When you start talking about your life, and what you do. Let me buddy in. No, it's just that I heard I heard what you said to. All right. So Jay tiller the audience about ten whilst tell them about, I mean, I can only about operation keep Tom, we did have some successes there. And I was very proud of operation peop- time where we could go along the fence line, and take a look inside a bedroom went, well, take a look inside a woman's bedroom window. How is that upper? But you could say that a success consideration success. Because we're able to show the hypoc see there's your wife getting undressed and goes how, you know, and I go here issue, Phil flakes, what we took I will say this Jay did tell the audience that he got beat up. I told the audience that I got beat up as a result of showing a husband, the film footage. I told him his wife bending over at Tyner Hugh, when she wasn't. Bending over tighter shoe. What apparently at film, footage of a woman bidding over in tying shoe at she was wearing anything else before she got dressed, right? What do you mean bending over and tying her shoe early? The woman was bending over time shoe, but she was new restaurants needed, whoever heard of putting your shoes on before anything else. I don't know. I'm talking to here with Jay Santos in Ted bell. They were at the upright citizens brigade. The other night, do you got? Not for me. Now we're all clear. Yeah. We're talking to Jay Santos intent valley here at the upright citizens. Brigade on Saturday night for Phil Hendrie and friends, and we're discussing different things that they had to deal with, and j you talked about data. More you talked about the peop- Tom, you talked about Tribune trampled, and did you say you gave the history of the citizens? I'm sorry place, getting Stanford. You would be interested in that. But I mean, let's face it, you know, you're, you're there to see a comedy show and you don't really you don't wanna hear about how your life may be in danger. But I did talk about, you know, the trampling I've mentioned in fact, it see lion is good. Good line Meghan. Excuse me, talking about how he lines gonna get loosened. Ted Peter, how's it going to happen? You can ask this your Henry sea lines have been known to cross. PCH. Well, they've been known across PCH, but you are in Hollywood. You were way up on Sunset Boulevard. I mean, this sounds crazy. But if a sea lion. Across. Infacy lamb done across PCH, and came all the way down sunset to the theater. Yes. It'd be problem and their big animals. I'm just talking about. In the eventuality. Like that happen. Well, Jay now, Ted Bill joining us, you or the sponsor, the event, right? I wanted to sponsor the event and this is something I thought was his security situation. What was when you started talking about how you aren't to shovel. The median okay. And I told Jay started to pull out hit what do you have? Macer Seth like that temper spray J started to pull out pepper spray when I told him what I was going to do. And as I was doing it on a stage. I glanced to my son to my right? And there's J off in the dark in his Bermuda shorts in his pick helmet and I can see him fingering as. Figuring my what you feel your pepper spray. Shane okay. Yeah. It sounds like your finger in it. Don't make it sound like the guy's a pervert just saying that's what I saw, that's what to be. That's when I was frightened. The understand I was frightened gay do it. He didn't get. I know what happened. You're talking about reworking, the Ted's logo. No one talking about that. He's talking about. I was talking about how we love the kids logo. Yeah. How they love the Ted's logo. They double down. Oh, the yesterday doubled down on the logo because the parents complain. Well, we had a group of parental group that it complained about it that lingering. That's where your finger. Pepper spray and try. Yeah. Well, look, I told him to history Toby the history of we wanna put our meeting your mouth. We went nothing salacious by it. Yes, yes. Yes, you don't mean anything dirty by it. It's very clean. Man do general do dismiss it. I'm not dismissing it. But I think we've heard the story telling it to the audience, you know. First time he heard it general Shaw sale. I was very concerned as a lot of other citizens replaced it to have their commander saying, Gleason. Gleason, Sutton, subcommander bear cock. Rare cock-up sorry and then on purpose didn't, you know, I did not go way to me. I had subcommand rare talk with me, and Gleason. And 'cause I knew as soon as he said, I wanna shovel with in he didn't. You know, Jay this is shorthand that goes on this program, you blame the program and he played the guests. What are you talking about? Dang is the one that started all of that Doug gang with the short end Doug dang started showing him and the rest of just follow suit, yet wrist of a flow of suit all the rest of the full of suit. Anyway, go ahead. What I'm what I'm trying to say is that I was beginning. I said, Jay fingering the pepper spray, that's correct. Because I thought we might have situation. You're talking about these parents came to you and said, we would like you to stop saying we wanna put our beat in the mouth. Is that right? That's right. Yeah. And I didn't say put them in the mouth while you, you had a lot of different versions. There've been a lot of different versions of we want to put our meat in your mouth have their Ted. What's wrong with you? What do you mean? Yes, I've asked you haven't there. Yes, there have been. There have been very, many different versions. And one of them was yes, you're right, j we want to put the meat in the mouth, and we didn't think that makes sense. We finally settled on, we want to put our media your mouth. Then we get the parents, the southern California parents have kids that are so wonderful that it, there aren't enough words to say if that's the organization. Yes. That's the name of the organization, their parents, parents have kids that are so wonderful. There aren't enough words to. Say the southern California chapter damn. That's right. And I'm saying they're saying to me, you better stop with that. We want to put our media your mouth. I said, what do you think you're talking to? And they said we don't see anybody else, but you can. And I said, well, let's take it to happen. They said, well, we need for you to stop in, and I said, okay, I tell you, I'll do rework. They said, thank you. That's all we're asking all we're asking is that you re at feel that is something, and I said, how about this? How about if I we want to back our meet up into your mouth, and offloaded and let says piss them off. I'm not trying to piss them off. I'm doubling down as you things back and shoot. He got down. I went for pepper spray, I told so medically defend out, I had said, can't Rick hockey, spread east. Brad out. And. Spread. Let me just finish what it is. I'm trying to say here. All right, fine. And so if I do that. All right. So you deployed your your officers. I thank you. That's like gun I deployed Mosser's and told him. Oh by God. Oh by God. I thank you. So I said, look, I'm doubling down. I'm double down. I wanna take by me. And I wanna lay it softly into your mouth, and he said, how dare you don't like pets another one? I'd like to take by catch Beverly Hills where we take our meat and we let your family upenn. We insert it one at a time in each one of their mouths about that. So you're trying to piss this guy off. No, I really wasn't. I was trying to get this guy to understand that I'll rework at put it ain't going to get any better for his taste, and as it turned out, Ed killing the story and C J getting increasingly upset until he finally pepper sprayed himself you might if I Kelly story, or you wanna tell well I mean you might if I tell the story you want tell you didn't do that. Did you Jay? Can I tell the story? This. I got to here. She got to here. I took the pepper spray out, and I deploy and I deployed it, and I had deployed by authorised unite, deployed officer offers if you don't mind, I'm sorry to point by officers. I told some basically sustained by and I told so recover standby, then I heard kids say, I like the line your family up and insert the meat directly into the mouth wanna time. That's when I pulled out the pepper spray very quickly and we teach our show commanders to staff to snap to stamp it out. You know, we call a stampede. Slippage. Yeah. When you leave out the pepper spray as I stamped it out, I headed in the whole story and reverse. That's very common steak and rarely do ever. If you're gonna put your pepper spray in your whole sir really, are you ever called upon to do stamp age? What, what are you talking about Santa's stepping? I'm talking about talking about having a pool up the the pepper spray out of the holster quickly, stamping it out. Yeah. Le- it at schools damage. Right. All right. So you stepped out of there, and it was an leaving the history verse. So when I stamped at and I squeezed snapped it out, and he squeezed at all right? That's what she said. You. That's getting really, really is of me. Me. So I but I get he hid himself with a shot of pepper spray flush. And I'm telling you, it, it looked painful it, sounded painful, it, it, I had to have been painful, I felt the pain, and I wasn't even touched. I felt a second came coming across the room. So you pepper sprayed yourself and in the in the end what happened? Well, I mean I had to go outside and get, you know, selling turn a hose on me. It's the guy someone valley's Parker cars there. They had some so mail, they went into cafe got some more milk, I half a half, you know. You see half-and-half not half a half the way that you J you are so so regional. But that accent. I'm so God, I'm Jerry sorry, I'm regional beyond Jay pepper spraying himself. Can I say it was a successful night because? You know, I gave the audience the history of Beverly Hills, they said, I gave them one dollar off. What have you give them you can give anything I said, I don't have to give them nothing. They won't. Give me some and I said, if you just give us a thumbs up out in the lobby as good enough for me. And actually, I'm Jay Santos. And I know I gagged up a little bit. Did you throw up with the pepper spray? I dry heaved off stage. So what a memorial. Well, at least it wasn't Memorial Day it was yesterday. It was excuse me, Saturday night. Yeah, it was Saturday night. So it did come it was Morial weekend. And for that, I apologize that Jay heaved up and hit him. So, but, you know, I tried to explain to everybody, the nature of our sponsorship and that, you know, Jay was there, of course, the, the whole star of the night was willing bona fide. How did Lloyd do. It really well he's telling everybody about well, Lloyd was talking to him about singing the national anthem singing patriotic songs. He was saying that memorial weekend is for those who have fallen and that's very important. It's very important. It wasn't anything that I thought about until Lloyd Senate. And then he but he did describe a couple of parties that he went into. He pops some guys volleyball and the guy to sing here a grand old flag over there. And that was a great song. Well, this is George m Cohan song. I don't know if you know who that is now Georgia, and Colin was the he was the song intense guy. George was this guy. And then, and so Lloyd was there. And he was leading them that song. Oh for their sin the word. You know, the song. Oh, yes. That's right. Joel world. War, one son. I I wouldn't familiar with it. But and then he had them singing intersex. Well. And he looked at he was having a seizure. But all's well that ended. Well, there, I think the only real bad thing of the evening was Jay. Now. Now now. No, no, no. Yeah. It was Jay pepper sprayed himself. Now talking about that. You know, playing grab ass. Dan Amora now. That's not true. The bet depend port at night was when you are going. Yeah. I want off. I want to offload it into your face. I never used the word face to people were seeing me, when's this guy? Talk about wants. He wants to unload on my face. Yeah. You don't. You know full well what I'm talking about what you make. All right. Look at J quick because you screw up and pepper sprayed yourself doesn't mean you gotta start mocking. A guy for something. They didn't do. I mean, that's well, the people I talked to did you talk to who said that they, they misunderstood Ted nobody but tells he will. Okay. Very adult of you guys to get along the way you did. I'm just I tell you. I'm here. Saint lives here to sell stakes. Okay, yourself stakes. Not to unload. I'll tell you what guys. Thank you very, very much, a very, very educational interview, and we'll see next year, maybe not for next memorial weekend. Trying to tell me this is the last. And Jason is ten Bill on this Memorial Day twenty nineteen. I'm Margaret grey general Caitlin Shaw. She's talking about a seal getting loose, but thought see line. Yes, the world famous fill Henry show is executive produced by Phil Hendrie incorporated, all rights reserved here on podcast, what this is general Gaiman, Sean. I'm Margaret gray. And but Dickman and this has been another film Henry show on Memorial Day. This is from a movie, ladies and gentleman movie. I just thought it would was appropriate for. Very appropriate. Thank you for listening. Ladies and gentlemen. Phil will be back tomorrow. Not that you needed to hear that. But that's what he tells us anyway.

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Deliverybros Season 2 Episode 4 in his own words with Michael Anthony Giudicissi

Deliverybros

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Deliverybros Season 2 Episode 4 in his own words with Michael Anthony Giudicissi

"And in the delivery Bros are concerned recording in five four. Three two one. It was so guys. My name is is Anthony Anthem. Aka Black Fabio Aka the Midnight Marauder Aka Mr Ak today we have a special guest on Alexa me authorizing me. The pitting ahead is funny thing works through today. We have a gentleman here who is crafted a film with grape proportion. FM were not only is about making success. A success for all the the people involved the shuttle Murad here is definitely someone privileged atoms show service. You have to state your name sure. My Name's Michael. Anthony Judah Sissy but almost everybody just calls me M. G. is gone through all that nonsense. I know Jud Assi. That's pretty good. Thank you how yours my Mediterraneo. Okay well how are you doing today. I'm doing great. Thank you for having me appreciate it Anthony as a pleasure to have you on the shell sincerely so you are. So you're a filmmaker. You have a new film. That's coming up a little bit about it. Sure Yeah So. This is my first feature film. And it's called in their own words. Billy the kid and Lincoln County War and there's been a lot of really good films over the last hundred years years or so but this one's a little bit different in that it's as if we drag them. All add grave resurrected them billy and his friends and enemies and we got to interview them one at a time and ask them what really happened. You know kind of what their real thoughts and feelings were and then we sent it back to the grave to having having her hill or wherever they came from and then we took all those interviews in put them together to tell his story from birth through death or maybe not in for some reason some people believe he died while on all the story is he died Here Missouri. That's one one of them. Apparently he was setting up. A pitcher friend got shot in the back of the data Jesse James but but there there is another threat of billy kid that dimes Uri or Texas or Mexico wherever he's GonNa live forever well which that man is a cat basically probably nine lies and dives. That's awesome so you always been kind of western culture and well. It's kind of interesting I wasn't too Westerns or anything like that as born and raised in New Jersey and I went to see the movie young guns way back in the I guess it was probably the mid to late eighties and I had no interest in seeing moving girl I was dating at the time was in love with Kiefer Sutherland. And so she insisted she insisted that we go to the movie. And I remember sitting there watching it and this story unfolds. And you realize it's about this game billy. The Kid who I knew nothing about and I actually became fascinated story travelled out to New Mexico Mexico a couple of times and then moving out here in nineteen ninety six have been here for a north of twenty three years now and It'd been studying. He came in Other other folks like that for a long time. That's pretty cool. I mean seriously like so so basically change your whole perspective on that time in error a little bit by just kind of seeing that Kiefer Sutherland. Morgan so shout out to that girl for Talking namely out this give her first name. Her name was Eileen. So we could. We could thank. You didn't hear today I lane shut out to you. You know who you are. I mean we're not gonNA give our lives names. There's a lot of high lease but I'm pretty sure. And hopefully this comes across across the many was okay. No extra so okay so he he was. Ability can facts Masher. Yes so the legend says that billy the kid was born in New York City in somewhere in eighteen fifty nine he was a New Yorker he has mom was the Irish Irish. I came over from Ireland during the Great Potato. Famine don't know really whose dad was but his mom mater way across the country. She contracted doc ID tuberculosis which they called consumption in those days and so they'd send those people to hide. Dry climates thinking. That would get him ease their condition shen. So that's how they wound up into Mexico He killed his first man when he was somewhere around the age of sixteen or seventeen and that's confirmed firmed. Guy Named Wendy Kale Blacksmith in Arizona and billy took part in one of the most famous conflicts of the old old west of Lincoln. County war in if any billy the kid elm you'd know about that and all the folks associated with it billy went on onto continue his life of crime and on July the fourteenth eighteen. Eighty one if you believe the legend he was sheriff. Pat Garrett caught up with him in Fort Sumner in Mexico which is way out remote eastern planes and shot billy dead in a dark bedroom and they buried in the next day A Legend would credit building killing twenty one men but the actual total is somewhere around seven or eight and if you really look at his life in context of the other outlaws. He's kind of an ordinary outlaw. He wasn't anything spectacular sh But in one thousand nine hundred twenty seven a guy named Walter Burns Noble. Josh wrote a book a sweeping drama Romantic Book about this little known outlining billy. The kid and suddenly the legend exploded and here we are one hundred hundred forty years after his death still talking about so basically those those great fun things it was just like oh I heard. He kills seven with his arm. I'm tied around his back much. Yeah now he hid actually have a I mean he killed his two guards he He was tried for the murder of a Sheriff Brady Lincoln County. He was found guilty. Sent back to Lincoln and he was a shackled hands and feet and chain to the floor. We're of Lincoln County courthouse. And he had two guards J W Bell Bob Hollinger and he was sentenced to hang within days He Killed Bell Somehow. How he's coming back from the outhouse got bills gun shot him and while still shackled? He ran upstairs to the armory got. His own shotgun went to the window and when I came running from having lunch he looked up and saw the kid there with his own shotgun and shot him facing chest and that was the last man he killed so it was pretty spectacular. Nadler did make papers around the country when he escaped the hangman. But just a couple a month later he was most flatly did the hand of Pat Garrett. Okay so billy they was saved Batman. Oakland was the best way to do it. He went big now the the legend or the other stories. That there's a guy named brushes Bill Roberts and for folks that saw the young guns two movie They kind of touched on this In the late nineteen forties. She Anna his lawyer. William Morrison went before the governor of New Mexico. Oh instead this billy the kid at Garrett never killed him he's an old man he wants to pardon that you promised him and they get. The governor did not agree that he was building. A Kid. Sent him on his way Brushing Bill Roberts went back to Heiko Texas just on the West Side of Dallas and he died a few weeks later a high court. Texas still believes brushing. Bill Roberts was billy the kid any live 'til ripe old age of ninety something so they actually have him buried in a big grave by the side of the road. That says Billy to get on it in Ford Sunday Mexico where Pat Garrett says he killed. Billy kid also has ability to kiss critic. And so you've gotTa flip a coin. Maybe decide where he died and how old he was when he died. But we touch on both of those films so basically his body could be multiple. That's Oh he could be in. Missouri could be Texas could be new. Mexico could be in in Mexico. Or Gosh who knows one of a number of other places but I will tell you. Without spoiling surprise we do put a put a final. Stand Dan on what happened to billy in the movie while we entertain some of these other series. But we tell you what we think happened. Well we don't tell you Billy Jones you happen to syncing with Morris Enviro. We provide accurate and cost effective foundation repairs. Stri solutions your basement or crawlspace. Now if you're the Atlanta Metro area and you have water coming in below your house. Were you see practicing your foundation wall. Then give us a call at seven seven zero five four six three nine nine eight or visit our website at more some Zimbardo dot com. Also you can follow subscribe to our Social Media Platforms at Morrison borrow to find useful resources. That can help you with your foundation. Solutions Solutions his own words. Well have you dead set on the truth or an idea to go see this movie movie and what is coming out. The premier is December seven so weak from the Saturday in premiering. In enforcer. The city in the Chamber of Commerce. Were so nice to let us film right. The kids gravesite and which really hasn't happened happened before for any other films and so we are premiering at in Fort Sumner. In December seventh. It's available or will be available on DVD on our website. And then we'll from your on Amazon prime video later January so if you wanna see it right away in get your bug out to Ford Sumner. We have a few tickets left their free. But you gotta get to have a ticket to get in because we're almost full or you can go to the website and you can order the DVD and watch it in the privacy of your own home or you can wait till January and Amazon. Okay you're not doing anything you're looking for something to do. Maybe with the family especially during the holiday season you should take some time to actually go. Check out the film and this goes off Arizona residents because I do have Arizona listeners. Come out and see the movie. And if for some reason you're not close to Arizona you should think about ordering the DVD. I know that some Western fanatics. I've I've had a lot of folks With Western organic films on the show because the Western fan myself 'cause I love John Wayne and also look at east were but that's all the resources another day a yeah if you're not doing anything to CD And also people are like waiting to stream comes up. Okay go preorder then make sure you get to that movie. They should you watch it was made by. People put a lot of time and effort into talking hours arriving. We're talking about hours of filming sweat. Tears emotions this film out. I'm not even kidding seriously. Goes out with that that is my civil ruble. Okay okay. I'm a little too much so all right. So tell me what got you WanNa make this film UAE. What made you decide attention to such ability? I know were inspired by the movie. Our for the life would this made did you. I mean what were you doing before all this. Well I've been kind of in film making only for last couple of years I have a small consulting company. I work as a healthcare consultant. But I really got fascinated with the process of filmmaking in had written several screenplays specifically this had been a billy the kid I guess Phantom in a legend for so many years now and there's a few talk to people it's amazing to me. How many people would come to a fistfight over history? Three over this factor that back. No he wars start this way or the other way and so in all of the different movies that you see. You mentioned John Wayne. While he played John John Chisholm in the movie Chisholm. And that was you know he would Chisholm. zwirn ally billy. Every story has kind of a little different different. Take on it right. One movie says it this way. One movie paints billy the other way and I thought Gosh these characters all. They can't speak for themselves. So what if we just put them. I'm in front of a camera and let them tell their own story. Nobody see an interview or you don't hear anybody asking questions. We just let them tell their story on their own. What happened to them and the interesting thing Anthony is? You talked about writing one thing. I neglected to mention his. This film was entirely unscripted. There was not one page of script every single actor or reenactor that in the film had to study there the character they were portraying. I gave them resources of what they needed to read. But when the camera's rolled ice sat below the camera out of frame I asked them questions off camera camera and they got to answer them any way that they wanted based on their research and based on what they believed their character would say would feel and and so this the ending and the conclusion was just too surprising to me is it will be people watching it because I didn't have any control okay. I did not know that correctly there was no script and also. That's pretty awesome. So basically they kind of Improv. How there answers every single? Answer that you see on their comes directly from the actor and was not written down a reader sten advance okay. That's pretty awesome. Actually collect that concept okay. Seattle to go see this movie because like I'm sorry that's talent worth their. He obviously got some townspeople people. Play these roles makes you pumped one of my actors. I mean they were all fantastic. But there's a little historical thread here. There was a character in the Lincoln County. Warning Docs turlock regulator and actually. He was played by Kiefer Sutherland. In the young young guns movies in my film Docs Turlock is portrayed by Scott spurlock who happens to be his real life great grandson so sal he's portraying his own great grandfather in the film. Oh so this history history. It is absolutely So wasn't as first time acting or is this like something he's done before. Yes Scott Says Ben Actor he's he's amateur apple coupled oldies but he's a senior and he's been acting for a little while and it's funny that he grew up on the east coast in. May I think. And he never knew that he was is related to Docks Kurla. When the young guns movies came out his friends went to see it and said Oh you had the same last name? You guys are properly probably related. Just just joking around. He did the authority and found out that there was a whole family of spurlock S- in Texas and he was actually doctorate ransom wild and one last bit if you're watching the film the glasses that Scott wearing their actually his great granddad glasses Mrs. They've been handed down from generation to generation may kept him in so he got to learn in the film. That's awesome straight her. That's awesome so I mean I'm thinking about like you're just one day you find out that your family name was part of history this crazy. Yeah never had any idea until then so I mean so this will means probably a lot lots of everybody involved in. I'm sorry I'm GonNa have. Yeah it really does I think because each of the actors put so much work into the study of their character. Usually they'd put work into learning the lions and kind of interpreting the lines. But in this case they I gave them months of time beforehand to study to understand and I will tell you that I got more than one message for more than one actor saying. Ace could you please tell me in the things you're GONNA ask me. We get on camera and my answer was the same every time. No way you become the character you learn it so when the question comes out now you have an answer based on the person for trying. I'm not giving any lead time. I don't want anything scripted or pre planned as everything was up to in the moment man. I'd be so scared. I was a little nervous when we start enrolling the cameras because I wasn't quite sure how it would work out but turned out pretty good did does you've heard his first. So where can people kinda like. You have any trailers out or anything like that. Yes yeah if you're on facebook you can find the film pages in their own words. Billy the kid in the Lincoln County War and there's a few trailers on there you can go to my production company's website it's mankind for duchesne's in the website is mankind P. R. Oh dot com. And you'll see all are on there but the trailers there as well we can also order the DVD find out about release dates on Amazon another networks and those would be the best places to see it. Give us a like on the film page if you would if you go by so we can keep in touch with what's going on because as we're aiming for a limited. The attributes release in theaters around the West early next year will bring Salva Stars the movie outlets world whereas you heard it so with that I'm going to have those means for low below so he reported down for me. The greatest see is willing man. He knows about I got you see how we can work together. Teamwork makes the dream work so if that ladies and gentlemen you to go see this movie in their own words check it out. I'm telling you check it out. I'm trying to copy anyways so yeah. I'm sorry. I was shameless. I had to say but yes check out in their own. Words is GonNa be a great home. Tom Let me come on. He's a great guy. I think what he has to bring to the same great now only forty views but also for the emotion the caption book the perfect piece of cinema. But I know is going to be awesome so ladies gentlemen. Let's go on ahead and gave him a round of applause. Sir Thank you very much because I'm not gonNA ruin no worries. Thank you have anything else you wanted to say. I just thanks very much for having me on. Thanks for the folks for watching we hope to to to get you on the other side of the TB rescreened opioid. DROID Ville seriously guys. Go check it out and with that my name is Anthony. Handsome Aka Black Fabio Aka Eight of the Non Marauder AKA AKA and. This has been another delivery pros. Thank you and good night or good morning. Depending on what time you're watching this name is Katherine Katherine Antrim. 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Neera Tanden's Nomination to Head the Budget Office Is Withdrawn

WSJ What's News

12:59 min | 3 months ago

Neera Tanden's Nomination to Head the Budget Office Is Withdrawn

"The biden administration sees its first failed cabinet. Pick so just who could be the new nominee to run the budget office. Plus businesses in texas will soon fully open and masks won't be required which other states have removed mask mandates. And there's a chance she'll get your covid. Nineteen vaccine at a drugstore will tell you what the big chains will get in return. They now have this this trove of email addresses cell phone numbers of all these people who may not otherwise have walked through the front door of their pharmacy. Wednesday march third. A mark seward with the wall street journal. And this is what's news. President biden's nominee to lead the office of management and budget has been withdrawn by the white house near attend and asked the administration to take her out of consideration amid opposition from senate republicans and a key democrat. Here's white house reporter andrew show on who might be nominated in her place the top choice to replace her according to people. We've spoken to chalan too young. Who's currently dominated to be the deputy director. She spent about a dozen or so years on the house. Appropriations committee staffer. She's well liked by members of both parties. She happened to actually have a confirmation hearing hearing for her deputy director role and she received praise from republicans and democrats. The expectation is that if she were to be nominated that she would be able to be confirmed. The president said in a statement that he still looks forward to having tandon serve in a role in the administration in texas. The nation's second largest state businesses will soon be able to operate at full capacity and stay residents won't have to wear masks to visit them. Here's governor greg abbott. Too many texans have been sidelined from employment opportunities. Too many small business owners have struggle to pay their bills. This must end. The easing restrictions will take effect on march tenth joins other states which have removed mask mandates such as iowa and north dakota. The white house said it disagreed with decisions by texas and some states to lift their mask. Mandates and other restrictions democrats and the new york state legislature have moved to strip governor andrew cuomo of management powers granted to him during the pandemic. The governor has faced mounting criticism of his handling of covid nineteen in nursing homes. A spokesman for governor cuomo didn't immediately comment on the resolution. Meanwhile more lawmakers have called for the governor's resignation after a third woman accused him of inappropriate behavior. A spokesman for governor cuomo didn't respond to requests for comment on the latest accusation. He hasn't made any public appearances. since thursday. we have all the details on wsj.com and in california at least thirteen people have died after a crash between a packed. Suv an semi truck near the mexico border authorities say the ford expedition was carrying twenty five passengers. Many of whom weren't wearing seatbelts. our regular listeners. Know we've talked a lot about specs on the podcast known as blank check. It's a way for a business to become publicly traded without the traditional. Ipo listening process now overseas the london stock exchange may ease the rules making it more appealing to lisp backs. Their markets editor quinton web joins me. Now good have you on this morning. Quinton clinton's backs are already used in the uk but the game could be changing in part because of brexit. That's right so london is considering easing. Its listing rules when it comes to snack so the city can better compete with. New york is a venue for these vehicles. And as you say in a way this is tied to brexit. Because london overton is kind of keen to maintain. The city's relevance is a major international financial center even whilst is losing some of its tight links to the european union brexit of course has made it a little bit difficult in some ways so for example. Some chad trading shifted out of london and to amsterdam and we should say the london is not the only market that is the big boom inspects in america with envy because in asia to exchanges in home call ended singapore Thinking as well about whether they might be able to introduce fax it's the hottest phenomenon in global capital markets in some ways at the moment and various people want in on the action quinton. What else is the uk looking at to maintain its presence as a financial hub. Well the other story in global markets really is the rise and rise for tech companies which often entails. Ipo's an ought trading volume very high valuations now in an effort. Potty to appeal to technology company found is. I think the london is considering dropping its traditional principle of one share one vote and allowing companies with do class hsieh's supervising rights for the founders to come to market so that is a way of trying to bring fresh blood into the london market place that has until recently been dominated by the old economy companies like banks mining companies oil companies and so on clinton web. Thanks as always thanks alot. Just ahead the big data reward for pharmacy chains when you get your covid nineteen shot. We'll be right back but payroll and hr company needs to be prepared for whatever's going to happen you could say that over seventy years of experience helping businesses all over the world run. Smoothly is good preparation but for eighty p. That's not enough to make sure. Millions of people are getting paid on time and incompliance. We're staying on top of each new piece of legislation so when it comes down to it. Eighty p isn't just a payroll and hr company. We're the company that helps you navigate the complexities. Adp hr talent time benefits and payroll informed by data design for people big name pharmacy. Chains are proving to be one of the go-to places for people to get a covid nineteen vaccination while you get a shot. The pharmacies also get something of value access to millions of customers data. So what information will these companies begetting. And what exactly will they be doing with it. Our reporter share turlough has been asking these questions and she joins me now from new york. Sharon good morning. Good so sharon exactly. What information are these stores. Getting from you it depends both on the store which retailer and where you are in the process and cvs and walgreens. The two biggest drugstore chains in the country have different approaches so with walgreens. You actually need to sign an account to search before you can search for a vaccine and in that case you're giving your name your e mail your phone number and permission for walgreens to track the ip address and your location on your phone cvs is similar. Although you don't provide cvs information until you're at the point of booking an appointment and at that point for both companies when you book an appointment you're giving them information about your age where you live some health information as well. And why is this information so valuable. Sure i mean there's a couple reasons so and we spent some time talking to the drugstores part of it is important in terms of making sure you are eligible for a shot making sure you're in the right priority list. Making sure you're you are who you say you are. But one thing and cbs in particular has been pretty vocal about this is important because it gives them access to consumers consumer data they now have this this trove of email addresses cell phone numbers of all these people who may not otherwise have walked through the front door of their pharmacy and sharing with that information. What can be done with it. That's an interesting question because it it depends on it depends partially on what consumers allow so these companies are not allowed to take healthcare information and use it for marketing. Like they can't for example if you if you sign up and you say hey. I'm allergic to this. They can't then start trying to sell you allergy medicine or if you say you're diabetic they then try to market insulin to you. However they can give consumers options to opt. In for more information sharing they can ask consumers. Hey do you want to join up for a loyalty program. In which case they would then be able to know what you're buying and kind of track your buying habits so a lot of it depends on you decide to share with them. You mentioned walgreens and cvs. What do they have to say about. This sure. it's it's interesting. They've taken care of two different responses. Cvs act actually made. It made a point during their call with investment analysts. To talk about how valuable. This data was in terms of giving them more ability to reach consumers to broaden their audience. Walgreens has not made that point. Walgreens said you know we need this information to make sure the right people are getting the vaccine and to make sure that we're compliant with federal reporting requirements and finally share in many of us have heard of hippo. It's the federal. Act that prohibits disclosure of protected health information wooden vis protect our personal data. Yes it would. And that's where the issue of opting in to share information comes in so hip does not allow companies to just kind of scoop up your healthcare data and then either sell it to other entities or use it themselves too much market things to you. However hip says if if consumers want that then they can so it provides a potential opening for companies to say. Hey would it be. Would it be helpful. Do you want us to start. Maybe taylor marketing start offering you services based on your medical history and information. But it's not something that would just happened without the consumer saying that. That's what they wanted or that. That's that's okay the journal sharon turlock sharon great to talk to you. Pray talking to you and finally there's something shaking up the jin business varieties of the spirit have proliferated including jin's that change color. When mixed with tonic. Others are flavored with brussels sprouts or even beef but for some there are questions about whether these new low alcohol jin's still deserve the label. Here's consumer goods and retail reporter sabra. Chowdhury there's a slew of non alcoholic and low alcohol drinks products on the market. That are calling themselves jin but don't actually meet the minimum alcohol content and the jingle which is the big trade body in the uk at internationally tries to protect the reputation of has been pursuing some of these companies. and saying. You can't do that. You need to change your name. You can't be calling yourself jin. The counter to that from the guys actually doing this. Is they say well. The regulations are out of step with the times. People want low alcoholic products and in any case the second rule of jin regulations which is the juniper predominance isn't being adhered to and so why in force one half of the regulations when you're not enforcing the other half we have more on the jin debate wsj.com and that's what's news for wednesday. Halfway through the week we're back tonight with a new show as always we appreciate a rating and review. Wherever you get your podcasts. A mark stewart with the wall street journal. Thanks for listening.

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Can Bernie Sanders win?

It's All Political

41:04 min | 1 year ago

Can Bernie Sanders win?

"First the big event podcast becoming total SF and we're going to highlight would still great about San Francisco will interview colorful characters share history pay tribute to our favorite. Sf movies and just have fun total SF. Wherever you get your podcasts welcome to. It's all political the San Francisco. Chronicle's political podcast. I'm gear fully the chronicle senior political writer and today in the podcast. I'm very pumped about the guests. It's a decent. Democracy are you may not know the main but he is the perfect guest for the perfect time to talk about what? We're GONNA talk right now. He's going to be talking about the California primary which was on March third. He's GonNa be talking about the national race and what does it? Matter that Bernie Sanders is leading the race in that people. Kinda freaked out because he's a democratic socialist. Does that matter add diesel? Take on all these things. They're all in his wheelhouse any knocks it out of the park and now here's my conversation with the DC. We see welcome to San Francisco. My Fellow Oakland or you are the perfect guest at the perfect time right now. just for For the guests who don't know him not only ran a nuisance Gubernatorial campaign a winning campaign. Thousand Eighteen. You were on the Hillary team in two thousand sixteen and you ran cory booker's presidential campaign here in Twenty nineteen twenty twenty. Welcome thank you. It's it's It's good to be here and it's good to be home. No doubt no doubt okay. Let's let's talk to the news the date it's freaking everyone out at certain the Democratic Establishment Bernie Sanders is the front runner. Can't he win the nomination? Oh yeah absolutely. He can not only can he? I think he's he's the odds on favourite at this point I think the results in Nevada on Saturday to me are a bit of a harbinger of things to come. He won about a third of the vote the raw vote but almost half of the delegates And almost half of the state delegates almost two thirds of the or two thirds of the national delegates. And I think as long as the field stays as it is that could be a result. We see a lot including here in. California next Tuesday and he can he be president trump. Yes I think he can. I think I think I think every candidate. I think any candidate who ran. Could I think the big you know the thing that people aren't seeing necessarily is it changes the map? It may be and it changes who the swing. Voters are may look a little different than what we are are used to but I remember the same things people said about President Obama twelve years ago and he won Indiana and North Carolina and other states. That we didn't even think at this point twelve years ago. Were in play and so it will be you know. If he's the nominee it would be a very unusual map in unusual race. I think that would change. How would it look different I don't know I think I think Florida is the state that I'd be most most worried about. It's traditional swing state. It's got a ton of electoral votes. Think third most in the country but fourth in the country but I think you'll be very tough for him to win Florida. But maybe he puts other states in the mid West like Ohio. Back on the map for In a way that they wouldn't be for other candidates so I I don't know I haven't seen the polling to be honest. A lot of things change over the course of the campaign but That's the one that comes to mind immediately. I looked up at the socialism thing today or over the weekend I should say he will. I will clarify that. Center Center. Says. He is a self described democratic socialist over the weekend Carson. Jim Clyburn has the number three person the house intellectual figure in South Carolina politics and the of course will have their primary on Saturday after record this he said I do not believe. I do believe it will be an extra burden for us to ca have to carry being a socialist. This is South Carolina and South Carolina are pretty leery about that title Socialist and so I think that that would be a real burden for us new state or Congressional district that we have to do well at if you look at how well we did the last time and look at the congressional districts these were not liberal or what you might call progressive districts. These were basically moderate and conservative districts that we did well in and in those districts. It's going to be tough to hold onto those jobs if you have to make the case for a for accepting a self proclaim democratic socialist other words. He's worried about losing. The house would Bernie on the top of the ticket mean for the House and the Senate I think. That's the chief argument against him. At this point I think he can beat president trump. I think it could have effects. Like leader Clyburn talks about down ballot in the Senate You know we were just talking about the states. That may or may not be on employee of Sanders is the nominee one of those I think as North Carolina which has maybe our number one if certainly top three pickup opportunity for Democrats in the Senate So in the Senate and the House as he talks about so I think a lot of ways that is the argument. The political argument at least against the Sanders nomination. It's not actually to me at least as much about beating Donald Trump it's about. What is the down ballot effect? And what is the collateral effects of having somebody with his ideology and And so forth at the top of the ticket put so it would affect the top area would affect the down ticket. You think so. Yeah you know my my gut says yes. I think there will be a lot of Democrats. Statehouse stay to set it Who are on the ticket with him. That would distance themselves from his ideology or his positions to be fair. That would be true of Eddie candidate right. There will be folks on the left to disagree with a candidate who would come from the center But I think that the biggest challenge with Sanders Sanders nomination will be. How does the party come together? And how does it work top to bottom president? You Know Mayor City Council in a coordinated campaign And that it could be a challenge so the day to day. Some of these guys are worried like they would have to answer a question like. Would you support a Socialist Do you support Medicare for all they would. They would feel that they would be boxed into a corner if Bernie Sanders was on the top of the ticket that absolutely I think you know. Presidential elections are different for midterm elections last year or two thousand eighteen. We were you know. You're essentially running hundreds of small individual campaigns in Orange County where we took over all of the congressional districts down there or whatever state Senate race be out there without question the the presidential race is going to dominate the airwaves. It's going to dominate the conversation. Over the course of the next eight months and so If you are down ballot candidate you cannot. You cannot help but be affected by what happens above you on that ticket and so I do think that if you are congressional candidate who is in a truly ideological moderate district or or Lean Republican district Having somebody that far to the left is going to be a challenge to navigate in California. Would that be a Josh harder? Who flipped the district in the Central Valley? Would that be a TJ Cox in slipped district with those guys have to? They might be. I think so. I think you know there's orange. County district are a little different because it's more suburban educated. I think and less conservative. I think in the sort of maybe her public Harley Ruta he's Katie Porter type. Districts are highly educated pretty liberal. I would say new Democrats now as opposed to you. Have you know a pretty conservative in the Central Valley With harder and and Cox and so I think there a lot of district that we picked up in two thousand eighteen. Where if you're a harder or a cox or their equivalents across the country. You're going to basically want to run a race that is completely divorced from the top of the ticket it can be done. I mean it happened in twenty Eighteen twenty eight. I'm sorry with trump that he was in a similar position at the top of the ticket and people still managed to win down ballot The one difference. I will say about that very quickly. As a lot of the states in particular on the Senate that we that Republicans held in two thousand sixteen were red states that they were holding. We are actually trying to pick up seats in red and purple states. Which makes it a little bit. Different but Yeah it's going to be if this is what happens. I think it's going to be the internal Democratic Party politics to Mir the thing that's the most interesting and the most challenging. What is You are You're someone who bridges all parts of the Party? And you were. You know the the establishment that those are the highest the top of the the party. Hell Freak Dart. How freaked out are people right now? I'm in the level of freak out from one to ten. Where are we? I think I think there's a divide. I don't know the answer to that. I would say it's over five. Let's say amongst people who are anti sanders. It's getting closer to ten by the day I think there is a division though between people who are worried about sanders ability to trump. Which I think is again. I don't think anybody is an overwhelming favourite. I think people are people are a little too sure of themselves when they say that he's definitely going to lose. But that's where my that's where I land so there is one segment of the party that I think is all about sanders ability to be trump. And and we should we should be. We should all be scared about who going to be able to be trump. I think there's the other part of the party that I subscribe to. That is more worried about. What does it mean for the party? What does it mean for the down valid etcetera etcetera and? Those freak outs are happening sort of in parallel parallel. So you know they're coming together and maybe multiplying As opposed to adding. But it is. It is You know this is what the Party the party is going to decide. The voters of the Party are going to decide to percent of them voted so far we still have ninety eight percent to go. A lot can happen though. I think you asked me up front. I think we are likely headed towards us. Enders plurality of the delegates. And if it's a big enough plurality I think he'll end up being the nominee What what candidate has the is the best chance to be an alternative Bernie Sanders at this of the remaining candidates? That is an excellent question. I think I don't think any of them could actually be. Yeah that's actually overstating it. I think I think probably Joe Biden at this point of the candidates that are that are remaining. Say but that can change depending on the results. Saturday. Yeah if a narrow victory or if he were exactly so it's a it's a moving target. The reason why I say Biden is this universal name. Recognition is is extremely valuable at this point in the race when we turn to March and universal likeability and Joe Biden while he's taken a bit of a hit in terms of his favorability over the course of the last few weeks is still amongst the Democratic primary electorate basically universally known and universally liked. And we're about to go into a three week. Stretch where more than half of the Democratic primary electorate is going to weigh in and you can't manufacture that over the course of these three weeks you have to already have. It manufacturer a boots on the ground. You can't manufacturer campaign operations and fortunately the Buddha judges in the shores of the world haven't yeah has actually. I mean Warren for sure to has and she's actually the one other one that I would say in an odd way would be At this point strongest against Against Bernie because she has actually manufactured that that's where she's been spending all this money for the last year and you can't. You can't buy time spent money on what on on building that organization. She has staff on the ground in Texas and then Missouri which comes up on March ten and in the you know Massachusetts or home state and Super Tuesday so so she spent a lot of money and time doing that in two thousand nineteen is hoping it pays off here in March But Biden between Biden and more and for different reasons. I think they have that they could be strong. I think Bloomberg is the other one. Obviously he's already spent half a billion dollars you could spend half a billion dollars more In March alone if he felt like it and money talks and can buy you neighboring. The things I talked about before favorability name recognition etcetera etcetera. So I don't think it's a foregone conclusion for Bernie yet but the problem is as long as there are three or four or five options. I didn't talk about Pete. And Amy but they're still in the race. You're going to have those people splinter and Or people who support them who don't support Bernie splinter amongst them and Bernie just has his hardcore quarter to a third of the people and it's probably enough to win. What what is the image of Bloomberg? How has he reshaped the race since being in here of course dreadful debate performance the other night how is he reshaped the race and can he can he? Can He win? I think yes he can win. I think yes. He can be trump as well. I think the challenge for Bloomberg is is the one I talked about before. He's trying to buy what Joe Biden had which is name recognition and favorability and he in Super Tuesday states in particular. And you know half a million dollars is a lot of money. leave him but For perspective more than what Obama spent in two thousand twelve entire Reelection campaign and more on at least on television by orders of magnitude of what the other candidates have run combine or what. Obama did in eight and twelve. And so I think the answer is yes but the only way he does. It is by sheer force of resources. He has sixty billion dollars so that the resources he could in theory throw at it but yeah he can win. He will not be able to win if he is not the last candidates standing against Bernie but I also feel that way about buying my feel that way about Warren and that's the prisoner's dilemma game. Theory situation that we find ourselves in now. Which is I think anybody could beat Bernie one on one. But we're not going to get to a one on one in time for it to for the first time would be the four super to by next. Tuesday. That's not gonNA happen to them. So that's it's a it's a true Collective action problem that is going to lead to An outcome that probably all the other candidates don't want but that's politics nobody wants to get out Let's okay so let's say this goes to the Convention Bernie does not sit. Are you kind of alluded to is a plurality but he does not have enough to clinch the nomination. Then we go to a second ballot before we get to that point. Is there someone in the party? Who has the respect and power to be a true broker here and the two names that come to mind our policy and Barack Obama I'm dubious about Pelosi because I don't know how far her power extends beyond Washington and I'm dubious about the president because I don't the he wants to get his hands dirty. I don't know what's your take on your you. You're closer to vote these. I think the other name you might WanNa add to that. I read this morning in a article. I think is right as Senator Schumer. Who who does I think? Pelosi in Schumer both have the interests of their members and those down ballot races at top of mind and so what they say will essentially would essentially represent the their caucus and sort of the political interest of their caucus. But I think the the real answer is is Brcko Bama and nobody else and I think his I I don't think people do it and why not ultimately he wants the voters to make the decision? I think his responsibility is to bring the party back together. Once the voters have made their decision to put his finger on the scale One either for or against Bernie or for one of these other candidates before voters have waited that's traditionally what former presidents do and. I think it's the right thing to do. He can go there in July in Milwaukee and stand on the stage and give a forceful endorsement of whoever the nominee ends up being and that moment will be an enormously import. It may be the most important moment in a lot of ways for our party Between now and November. Because he's the only one who can bring us back together so that's that's his role as they bring you know after the if indeed sanders is a nominee. And there's lots of somebody else then he brings everybody. I think that speech that he gives at the convention is going to be a critical critical moment. to our ability to come together and ultimately be Donald Trump. And what are your concerns is if the nominee is not sanders and then he has a lot of of supporters. Who are going to be. You're going to be pissed off. They're going to be like. Oh my this this is the system is rigged again. Here we come in here with the More delegates anybody else. And were were hosed. Would what what happens? it's It's a very good question. I think that then it's up to Senator Sanders And what he does again. I think it's unlikely that somebody with a plurality of delegates gets denied the nomination and less and this is my personal opinion. It's a political opinion. Not a rule that the margin is so close between the top two people that there's a plausible argument and there's sort of momentum at the end for the second person. There's a plausible argument to say. You know this person was strong in February and March. I'm strong here in May and June. I'm close We shouldn't just ratify results from six months ago or five months ago outside of that eventuality. I don't think it's I. I don't think it's likely that that whoever comes in second is going to end up as the nominee. But if they do it's up to Bernie and it was up to Birdie in two thousand sixteen and I don't think to be frank that he did a good enough job of it You Know Sanders folks and senator. Tim Sells himself disagree. But it is you know you look back to what happened in this party in two thousand and eight. Hillary Clinton had a much stronger argument for you know really Digging in her heels fighting to the convention And Tearing the party apart and she did literally everything she could to bring the. Party together Before the commissioning after I don't think he did the at the same effort in sixteen. All of our nominees are going to have to do that. Here in two thousand twenty because the threat is of another trump term is just too high and we'll be back for more of my conversation with the after the short break. If you've been listening to San Francisco City insider you heard from Jason Bodine months before his surprise election as the city's. Da you heard from the most loved librarian in the country and you heard from the man who wants to remake Muny. I'm chronicle columnist Heather Knight get to know the people who make San Francisco Tick NC if you approve of their burrito choices on San Francisco City insider let's California California already booked as reporting. That's one of the fourteen states casting ballots on March third. You have run a state wide campaign here. I'll be it for governor but you know you know all parts of the state why explained what is unusual about California and you know Doing a story about the candidates hosting budejovice over in Turlock the other day like Buddha jet in Turlock what the hell so why. Why is he there and talk about You know every you have to get fifteen percent of the votes in a Congressional district to even qualify for delegates. So that's yeah that's why he was there And that's why you'll see. I think in the next week strategies where the candidates go and where they advertise. Obviously as well is a just a red light signal about what What they're trying to do here but ultimately you know California is a media state. You know you. Can't I think Sanders announced that he knocked a million doors in this state? Which isn't very impressive thing to do. It's also a drop in the bucket compared to what you could do a million dollars a lot of doors but compared to the number of voters number of doors number of people who are going to be But roughly two million dollars a week if you want to advertise on TV statewide low. Yeah I would say three to four three or four To do something credible and nobody's doing that except for Bloomberg but ultimately what these candidates WanNa do is they want to get to fifteen percent in as many districts as they can and I think most importantly to get to it state wide Because not only are the delegates allocated by district they're also delegated that large ones are allocated By your state wide performance and so there is a world I think is a very likely world that sanders and maybe only one other candidate hit that fifteen percent statewide And a bunch of candidates get fourteen thirteen twelve and thirteen is functionally getting zero In a congressional district or an estate because in a a state wide. Because you're just not going to get any delegates and so that is the dream scenario for Sanders. The nightmare scenario for others but a very likely scenario and we just thought in Nevada You know only sanders and Biden got to fifteen percent statewide and that's why Sanders got so many delegates despite only getting Thirty four percent of the of the raw vote when they when folk showed up at the caucus. So you're playing a very different game on March third here in California. Then you've been playing over the courses. So what do you do if you're not a sanders? Who's been here? Let's let's give him credit. The these guys have been here since last. May they've been organizing the ground phenomenal job organization organizing in Latino Communities You do if you're not one of those guys would you? How do you organize here? What what's your strategy to can you? Can you do like a rural strategy? I'm going to pick off the TURLOCK. It's too late to docks of the world. It's too late to do it on the ground you needed to be investing and this is where I was talking about war and before you needed to be investing in twenty nineteen to be able to pull that off. Sanders did his anyone else. Bloomberg has people on the ground It's still not enough in this state. At least it's impressive but it's not enough but I would say Sanderson Bloomberg the only folks who have enough people in the state to do anything it's really a media game it's about. Can you afford not just television but digital direct mail? You name it radio to To persuade enough people in those districts where you might be close to fifteen to put you over fifteen and so my gut is if you're Buddha gender closure or Biden for that matter you are polling can by the Congressional district if you if you can afford it certainly by the state by media market and trying to see where you might be plus or minus a couple points near fifteen and then you're throwing your money there to try to to try to get you over that fifteen percent threshold and if it's just you and Sanders and some of these places you're GonNa get a lot of delegates for fifteen or sixteen percent and But again nobody other than Sanders and Bloomberg. Have you know ground operations here but not born does but it's more political than ground? It's more outreach. I think it really is Anderson Bloomberg pretty much One to all right. You tweeted the other day. Oh Gosh Oh my God this is just WanNa remind everyone. The California won't be close to finishing the count or allocating delegates until several days in parentheses. At least past Super Tuesday so prepare to be very angry on A little bit of joke as people know it. That's the truth but you know all these things we're talking about with fifteen percent thresholds and and statewide and Congressional districts. Total number of ballots. We're not going to know the real numbers in California probably until April Certainly until the end of March and people have been freaking out about the Iowa and Vada how long it takes global and I'm just like calm down like I get. The people hate caucuses. And I get it and I think we're GONNA have a real conversation and the party about whether caucuses are are right for picking presidential primary. What I have a soft spot for them but I think as long as we're going to require we've basically turned them into primaries with these new rules of reporting out these three numbers etcetera. So I think this is probably the caucuses to be. Honest but let. Let's just calm down. Everybody like it. I would rather people get it right and get it fast. I know we want to be able to do our snap analysis. And what have you but like? I remember from sixteen. Hillary was way ahead on on election night in California. And by the time. All the provisionals late coming absentees here in California came got counted the gap closed by like. I don't know I think it was like eight points. I mean really significant changes so I just was trying to put with my little twitter following. Pour some water on the idea. That like it's okay for us to win the governor's race at twenty eighteen I mean you're the bull out but There were congressional races decided three weeks. I was fighting for sixty. We got there Yeah you know that was like my internal. I was I wanted. I wanted to win by the biggest margin ever and we didn't get to sixty until like a week later I was. I was refreshing just like everybody else. Maybe it's a little cocky but But you know it's GonNa take a week it's GonNa take two weeks it that's what it's GonNa be We HAVE TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE. Have to be okay with it I want. Let's go back talked about Corey Campaign for a little bit one. This is something that people ask me all the time and I get in conversations about this. Why didn't Cory Booker? Catch on is a senator. He's a mayor of a small city. Smart Rhodes scholar Stanford Law School Progress. Progressive of viewpoints. Unbelievable Speaker. That man sweats through shirt and burns down the building when he when he speaks. What happened why? Didn't he catch on a week in Hawaii? I've had a month or so to marinate on it. I think a couple things one is. I think that just the pure politics tactics of it. We were blocked and a lot of ways by a lot of other candidates in terms of Media attention polling. You name it and when you say blocked with demand sort of were the second choice of a lot of people Given the huge number of people in the race we were second choice of a lot of people but not the first choice of enough. I think that would have changed if we had made it to February and March. But that brings me to the second thing which is the Po- The day qualifying thresholds really hurt. And it's I don't think it's an accident that the only candidates that are left are the ones who were on the debate stage in December and January. you know it became a Indicator viability to the world including the press. And I would say for the last three months of the campaign certainly last of the campaign the first question we got any political interview or from any endorser who we were seeking or whatever it is. Are you going to make the debate stage and does that indicate the viability of your campaign? And so we got into this sort of spiral about all of that. I think the other piece of it was impeachment From the moment and on September I believe September twenty four th if I remember the day exactly that That Nancy Pelosi did her press conference. Impeachment became the dominant story nationally. We couldn't get we could. It was very hard to punch a message through at a critical moment for us. We needed to be surging in the polls to get on the debates ages etc so it was a combination of a lot of factors may not have been as time our message you know may not have resonated at this moment in in American history but Corey said to me way back at the beginning that his goal of this was to bring people to him not to change who he was just to win it on the nation and You know we brought a lot of people along. We increase name recognition his his favorability. But it just wasn't as moment what does it mean that These people are no longer in the race. Cory Booker. Comma Harris William Castro. How much is this is about race? And how much of this about That they didn't make the debate stage. I think a significant amount is about race. And here's why Isaac Dove Air from the Atlantic wrote a piece before we got out sometime in December. I think it was about the sort of the second order racism It's really what it really comes down to his about electability. I don't think. Democratic primary voters are primarily even close to racist or thinking about You know not willing to vote for a candidate because of their race in. We saw that twelve years ago. Eight years ago But I do think because of the importance of beating Donald Trump and the sort of obsession with elect ability that we've had people are looking not at what they would do but what they think. The theoretical swing voter would do and I think if you're a woman or a person of color You look you. It is harder to make the case that you are electable against Donald Trump because I think your average democratic primary voter thinks trump was a reaction to the first black president and he beat the first female nominee and so. I don't think it surprised that we are coming down to what looks like three. Maybe four white guys as our last four choices. That is not an accident it is was that. How did that affect the ability to raise money in it? I don't think it affected well. It affected in the second order way. Which is that people aren't saying they're gonNA vote for you or people who are expressing concerns about you. Can You beat Donald Trump. What are you actually? What does that actually mean? So I don't think it was. I don't think it was affecting sort of directly affecting US indirectly and then all of those. All of the problems that ended up with EXCEPTION OF IMPEACHMENT THAT ENDED UP CIRCLING US. Certainly had something to do with race. Just as with Senator Harris had to do with race and gender I think Elizabeth Warren Right now is without question the recipient of this. Which is that. I think people see her unfortunately for her as sort of Hillary Clinton again right which is just because she's a woman that's not fair She is not Hillary Clinton and she's a different candidate with different positions but donald trump beat. Beat Hillary I'm putting this in air quotes for people who are listening to this. Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton in two thousand sixteen. We can't we can't do that again or else we're going to lose again. It all comes from fear of losing to trump and an obsession with the bill. And it's and it's like we've written we've had guests on. The podcast is a myth. Tha It's It's proven to be a myth in the last race Obama and Donald trump our last two presidents. We probably should stop trying to figure out what American voters are willing to vote for him. Okay which are the DNC due to change The requirements for getting on the debate stage would be a better way to do this right. Now that's been a mixture of You know How many how many online supporters you have how many what's your polling results are etcetera etcetera. Now there's a if you want to delegate wh what should be the requirement to the criterion on. You'll be shocked to know Joe. I've thought a lot about this. We were on. The phone won the debate. I actually hear your head exploded during the conversation few months I you know I honestly don't know the answer to this yet. I will say this to the world if anybody is listening I want to. I want to be involved. What I'm just saying if anybody would influence over this wants to draw me into the process for figuring it out next time I would love to be a part of it because I think it is a I think it was such a crucial part of winnowing. The field this time that we gotta get it right the whole primary process but the debate process specifically you know. I don't know the answer. But maybe the answer is just getting out of the pro- the process together and letting the media organizations do it. That's how it was done in two thousand twelve and and before is that so let the let say. Cbs is hosting the debate. Let's get to pick let them pick Because I think the DNC rules were born out of an obsession with looking neutral and given what happened in Twenty Sixteen And there is no such thing as neutral if you pick polling as an as a marker you are advancing people with name recognition period if you pick donors as a as a criterion. You're advantage people with online donor bases which skews white skews at more affluent etcetera etcetera period. So there's no such thing and you can. You can buy your online. Does he. Doesn't hundred thousand dollars. You could buy dollars. It depends But it costs anywhere between ten and fifty dollars to buy donor. Who Will Give you one dollar? It's literally just a saturation media strategy. You put enough ads out there. You'll find somebody who's willing to give you money but it for us. We spent more money getting donors than we've got rates for those donors but that's what we do to make it on the debate stage to prove that we were viable so to me. Maybe the the and I haven't decided on this. But maybe it's just get out of the gable together. The the other thing that I've thought about I've talked to a few other folks and democratic politics about is having some kind of bonus for people who are in elected office. There is a anti elite sentiment in this country right now and anti elected officials sentiment generally speaking but if you are running for president of the United States it does suggest to me that your ability to win votes Is like is relevant to your ability to be the Democratic nominee. I don't know maybe I'm crazy And so You know for I obviously feel some kind of way about about Senator Booker. But if your Senator Gillibrand or Governor bullock or some of these candidates who got pushed out of the race in September. Because they couldn't make the debate sage. That's truly ridiculous. Gillibrand is a United States. Senator from the third biggest state in the country. Like that's gotTa be worth something And so you know that could be a criterion but again that also has its bias east. I think Obviously you're showing your anti Marianne Williamson bias in anti-algerian right but I love to enter. The Yang is going to be up your young gang. Well this is. Why let the let the let the media organizations decide how they WanNa do debates and let them take the heat for it the IDs you could get out of the game? What was just looking. What would you have done differently? What would you have done differently in the campaign man? Other questions that I've thought about January thirteenth The biggest thing I think I would do differently the the biggest realization I had probably in the summer. Certainly in the fall was just how much of an effect the number of candidates in the field had on our ability to basically do anything It's what drove the fear of a big too big debate stage which drove debate rules. It's what drove People's indecision the you know the paradox of choices. People call it where people get so excited so excited about so many candidates they can't pick one It's what definitely drove attention. You know you can't pay attention to twenty candidates so the press had to pick and choose winners in that sense who gets attention and so. I say all that to say when the field was smaller in February march April of last year especially before Biden got in. I probably would have been more media aggressive And and that's what Buddha judge did and I think it was a brilliant strategy. It's why he is still in the race. In my opinion is he just went. While the field was small notably he went all in on the press strategy and He's good at it first of all but it allowed him to capture a share of the market media market. At a time where you can actually do that. It became basically impossible in the summer and then God forbid when impeachment started. It was it. Was You know zero percent chance that you could really breakthrough and what's Of course running for reelection career are you. Are you working on that campaign? I'm helping from afar as much as I can Matt Clapper. Who was my senior adviser on the campaign is now his chief of staff back in the in the city was before as well. So they've got a good operation go I think he's GonNa Possible Vice President. Does he know who knows? I mean yeah I think I think a nominee would be crazy not to consider him He is broadly liked in the party. Bradley liked outside the Party By moderates and progressives alike American multiple political and. You know it. African Americans I think is very important to our our prospects in November ready to be president. Probably most important of all so. Yeah I think folks would be crazy not to consider him but I also think that that's not. He's not angling for it per se. He's much more interested in being in the United States. Senator from New Jersey. For one more. Do you think that that if there is a looks like there will be a white Nominee would you concerns about reassembling the Obama Coalition And and just bringing people color into the process. Will this alienating the whole debate so white and candidate field so white is that the? Are you concerned about that? I am concerned about it. I think it's very important that we have Black Brown. Asian native voters centered in our nominees politics and in their campaigns I don't think that necessitates having a person of color at the top of the ticket or on the ticket even. But if you're not gonNA do that in your campaign you you're going to lose so if you're not gonNA send it in your campaign you're going to lose or you're not going to motivate people enough so I do think that it's a bad signal to it. Does send a bad signal particularly to the activist class of the Democratic Party that we have. We don't have any people of Color in the race anymore even though the races kind of just beginning But it's something that can be rectified. With a good campaign And With a good vice presidential choice with a good program and a candidate who is willing to do the outreach? As as a previous candidates have been willing to do. I'll say this who the the Obama coalition though is not. I think that's not. I don't actually care if we reassembly Obama coalition. I WANNA assemble the fifty plus one coalition of of Electoral College votes. And whatever that looks like and I think it may be totally different coalition Bernie Sanders at an is bridge Biden. It is for a Bloomberg but I think we should get out of our heads that that we have to Redo what Barack Obama did. And we just gotTa get two hundred seventy electoral votes and but to your question. I don't think there's any path without voters of color period And so I just hope that our candidate at our our nominee centers. That and there aren't that he's a thank you. So much for my. I'd like to thank you for listening. I'd like to thank my fellow. Oakland bird coming across the bridge to be on the podcast today and San Francisco and like to thank the King King Kaufman and the crate one caring for producing today's episode. Remember whether you think you can predict to people will vote for or if you're a sane person it's awful. It's all political as part of the San Francisco. 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