4 Episode results for "Turkey Jockey Club"

Part 2 :Dr.Allday, Ed De Rosa, Nick Zito

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

1:52:40 hr | 11 months ago

Part 2 :Dr.Allday, Ed De Rosa, Nick Zito

"Steve. And becoming interviews this is. Steve. We're back and I when I when I went looking for for Chelsea's. Twitter address. And and I typed in danner. The funniest thing is that The first thing that popped up was a listing of of one of our shows. From. Late last year of all things and it was with Doug. Doug Danner and I had forgotten this but You know most often we would get doug on. I think with the With freethinking. Several you know conversations. During his career, but it was I reached out to him about. The the ten year old. That made. Prom theme that was making a hundred and ninth career start. Late last year December nineteenth. It was last time Doug was on. Pretty funny and then curiously. I I don't even know why it's okay. It's not I was GONNA. Say it doesn't make sense timing. Wise. But here's a picture of Tony on one of our courses on unread board king when he broke his maiden pretty funny anyway. Great to get. To get Kelsey down around, I had tried her a few times and it might be that I. Had A number? That wasn't? That wasn't right. So maybe that's why because she certainly was fun and and seem quite Quite willing. So. She's take. She's she's nicely positioned With. With these kinds, horses that that horse that I mentioned. that monorail that. That's too bad i. mean that's Nice for. Him. But that was a debut winner. And you certainly. Out of way that you remember off the tracks she was. She was a serious or she won. The Coaching Club or Something that you win the Alabama. That they're said, said good morning. Our. Good I'm good I'm trying. They'll complaints off the tracks when after look her up over to write her down because she I remember her it's really not that. I just a few years ago. This must be her first foal. She herself was by Caroline. So we'll. Go back and find turn. She if I'm not mistaken she started. She started with somebody. In Florida I think and then got and then. Transferred I can't remember. Off The tracks. All right. We'll check back on that said I. I'm glad we can convene because. This hatful. Of Stallion. maneuvers since we talked last Wednesday. And then within you know within forty eight hours, there was significant story so that that started a crop Laya band will move from new. York to Kentucky Caravaggio will take up residence at Ashford and daredevil coming home and then to all off this Edina. Partnership deal with Hill Lyndale quite notable. Go Sapper. Coming to Dale along with Muccio Macho man and point eventually This was quite a week. Activity. Yeah I your thoughts I mean considering. Considering. There's so many there's so many of the story lives you and I feature in conversation regularly including the export of stallions, shovel stallions, and then regional market stallions and really. All. These plots were were covered with the web. Yes, very much talk about let's start the which start whichever one you want. To Ban the case where you have regional horse. and got obviously simply ravishing grade one winner. Once you get. You know a great one winner in your service crop two year olds. By the right type of sire uncle Mo.. We've got NYQUIST and out work as well. Good looking horse look second uncle mount to. you know. That's when the frenzy starts In in Kentucky and You know I kind of knew that the this is taking place because they had A. Sealed bid auction been source. About About two weeks ago. And Obviously Windstar won. The prize. and. So he's coming here and going to be standing for twenty five thousand dollars. meanwhile, we had lost Geared up will who made. Turkeys Jockey Club, but the Turkey Jockey Club A now has approach lanes then about standing the horse for them. So you've got a very unusual situation. Turkish Jockey Club. Owning. The horses and standing in back in America again, capitalize on. His popularity with you know, have you seen the cooks winner in? Multiple G one winner craft winner in Switz- Guy Pussy Kentucky oaks winner, and she. The Devil. So that's an unusual move to come back but kind of expected as well. The rumors. Yeah. The rumors have been had. You know the right even even well before the. Even before the Kentucky Oaks I mean the the what was going on with with skydiver had people, and then there had been some other minor winners that were bubbling to the surface and do. We hear these rumors but a lot of times it ends up being. You know just just rumors and and it doesn't come to fruition like this. And you know it's interesting. It's GonNa be the Turkish Jockey club Spanish. Because they've been. Trying to. You. Know there was interest in horse and they put a price on a horse and nobody. Was Willing To. Bite on that price. which was Rumored to be ten million. So they decided to stand the horse. Themselves Here. So you know the thing or is here. to twenty five dollars you know they're they. They have a chance to actually. Make all the money back on what they spent on the Horse. In the first place plus up. So You know it's a, it's a booth to capitalize on that and. He never know how what is future's really going to be like here. Know. You're to. I demand? Wayne. They'll probably take my back to. Interesting Because it's gotta be it. To Re rebooted. Boot. Horses. Stallion career. You know even with this kind of notoriety. GotTa be a little. It's got to be a little tricky. It's daunting and it's very simple These two big oysters are from his first crop. Extend to be the best. I down because they tend to get the best mares at first crop. So what are you going to have to do? Now withstand second, third and fourth crump mayors. Be Done. Fantastic meaning we're going to have to you know have production from. Lower Quality Mares over the next few years which always the big bugaboo for horses you know this applies away Obama's well. The thing with Larry Band that he's got. It could be it could end up being terrific stallion but what he got as a backup in he's got so many New York breads, he can keep it black type. Yeah Yeah you can keep his black cat going with restricted grades in New York right. So that's you know that's always a UH. Kind of good way keep horses name. In spotlight my Those are certainly really interesting development the third one actually I. I. I actually called John t core this weekend just to make sure whether. I originally miss the original notification that he was. Moving. Goes Zapper that is but the other think Sunday. And the. you know as John over the weekend about it. Yeah. Two big move for John. John now has. Type Ramallah's. Trying to set up He's I've got. Curling he's got king storing that goes up terrific stallion and and. Really emerging good mare side you know boomer sire if justify. So. you know it's a it's a great each for John Moving to. Off. And Filling in some spots on the order like A. Team. You got your young prospect. McCain's music starring show. Eventual. Stardom. He got. He got. Ten therapy to broaden from. Florida doubt. you know. A lot of younger horses still not. With runners yet and By throwing This horse at a price point you've got midnight lute him really proven or something see. you know he's really rushing out. It's down. boxster with a mix of. Free agent. And and you know well, spotted Non drafted free. Agent. Violence has come out big frame now again that tweet. you know g one winners this year Leading. You know his contemporaries and so. Big Move for, Lyndale. A couple of a couple of notes within the within the D. L. I mean obviously go sapper and we're GonNa talk to John Probably next week and get some of the perspective from him. But I I. Feel like to me the. The sleeper in this go sappers a known quantity and and Muccio Macho man. Seems to. Seems to still be kind of feeling his way to me. The important. Hidden Gem in here is point of entry. And and you know the the Dinah former the importance of diner former. You know to me can't be. Under under sold. The. There will be steady. Steady successes. That point of entry, and in fact, he you know he had a nice seller yesterday one here point of entry and the diner former line to me is is is too. There's too much. Success and there's too many positives associated with that. You know with with the top at bottom here I mean you got the Phipps. Strength and everything that comes with it I just I. I would think that point of entry Has Got you know when you look at when you look? At Trades in in baseball and and you know there's that there's that throw in that Try It. For him because. You know you never know. You never know flying You know what? They what they could put up these. You've seen it with temple city at spendthrift. You you've seen. The sources shown some life. With you know already it's just a matter of. The diner formers and you know Donald Former by the way down, it started off really cheap to. Five thousand dollars went up. To one hundred and fifty dollars. you know He. WAS A. Scandalous down problem that he's running to. During. His tenure what he ran into woods, you know a preponderance of dirt. And sprints which goes against his type. but to your point, you know with more turf him and. Seems like. They're more distance races now, kind of shift into. Two point eventually you know. We have you know kittens story came up during the era the. Synthetics. which he really capitalized on. lemurs. Emergence of TURF. And you know hopefully John. The same thing I like about him and he's he's never afraid to take chances. and. That's why took a whole took always like French. As. Well, you know, of course that was Mile and a quarter to a mile and a half type and. You don't he's still waiting on him but that was expected that his is my you know Kirby better the because the crops age so. He's got himself covered with you know lots of different types in my key point at this kind of Sonian in. Who knows what might happen You know she's commercially. Some of these sources do get hammered. Unfortunately but I'd love to see that line. A you know take up in fact. Fifty years one of the. of the Diner Palmerston studies full. verners yet. But in Canada that's Danish down form. So you know there's still you know And he studied Canada where the environment really fit with terminal weather. So you know that's that's let's say. It's another son that you know probably probably the last. give it a shot. yesterday hip sixty, hundred and sixty, thousand, and just looking. To See. Let me. Let me see how many. How many there's another one too. There's another four. Another four to sally yet or actually. Take that back. Oh, no because I type in point of and. In the search bar and it gives you gave you a few other. Names that have to be. Yeah that had. Had the same letters. It's pretty funny but there's one to There's there's just two more that are going to sell yet but I'm a fan and I'm interested and you know John John is obviously not he's not shy about the you know the turf Potential because. He's got Flintshire and. Get. Well, you know so. He knows what to do with with those types. You know we should the one we skipped over. As. Part of this conversation Caravaggio said, and here's a scat daddy son that It was making noise the the babies that had made their way you know to these shores and. I it did seem like there was a buzz and sure enough Here's Ashford coolmore trying to capitalize on it and I can. A bringing scat daddy home. And you know they're such a sophisticated. Organization knowing how to maximize stallion knowing. That you know. First. Cropper. yearling year. So be entering his fourth year Stud. You are up. So why not try to? Repackage and bring him here. So he's kind of new here even though it's address courtship nuts done. They've done you know the Broadway. back that have started over there I and. And Continued with them here giant's Causeway Declaration of war. you know. It's it's it's constantly. Trying to repackage something during these tough years at Stud so What would have been his worst? Near. Europe, which is fourteen. They can bring him here and you know rejuvenate market here they've seen how terrifically popular. The other t scat daddy have been. That's Mendelssohn. and. Justify both of whom got over two hundred, fifty mares in their first year at Stud. So, now What they do is they introduce another scat daddy here but one really. Built almost the American marketplace's. Especially Sprint they're. Out of a holy bull man. Plays here. The Cook Great Good Looking Horse and now you got another scat daddy for them here you know. It can take overflow marriage and Mares zone. Right. And because he's kind of New Year. That stigma that fourth year kind of Wayne. Bits again? And so. It could just brilliant plan all around. And You know I think he's GonNa end up being soon. We probably well. Now and just just pulling up there their page. And There is already on the didn't take long for him to make to make the website and. Air. Force Blue American Pharaoh Caravaggio Classic Empire Competitive Edge Cupid Eco town. My will be there. For them to yes. Yes. Eco Town. When he? I didn't Miss I. You. I'm not sure if he's no Nashville we'll know tomorrow but I know Nashville was entered. In the sprint for the Asmussen Barn Eco town, I forgot to I forgot inquire about catoon if he was running justified looking at lucky maximum-security Mendelssohn motown who is already seemingly Getting. Some buzz. Munnings Joke Tale, the cat and uncle Mo So it's a pretty maximum security of course, is headed there too. Yeah maximum security is that are there? And the big mover they're. Really big price. In terms of going up this year. Where uncle bulk at the Ashford, going to one, seventy, five and intimacy of going to take twenty five. At Spencer but you know the some of the big guns. Curling, of course, held steady at one, seventy five, but you've had. warfront dropping to one fifty. Happened at. Twenty fifty medallion Diarra one fifty. the some that the big guns dropping. At the top of the market And of course it. Seems like a lot of horses coming to study as well. So. It's going to be really. Interesting he you know the the demand that This year bring contest twenty one you know with with all the economic woes and Whatnot. Keeneland September down twenty percent average The tell will be what the demand is for Broodmares. At keeneland. particularly. In has you know keeps you now. To really nice top poisons but. That kind of look. Really Give us a sense of You know what the demand situation will be. For. Some of these horses next year keep in mind Close of two, thousand and twenty. those are widely down the offered at keeneland November dog the first colts. They'll that will be sold that we'll have this mark on them, which is that day when they go to stunned. Will be limited to one, hundred, forty mayors. All these other words were seen going to start right now. You know they can still try to maximize many mares they can get to. The all you had. That have been appearing. GDN. Where you know farms are actually. Bragging about how many marriage? Stallions covered audible to eighteen. Could you saw one today Would it? Out Work Three hundred nineteen folds or something like that. The ground So you know The number of the number of married He's going to play an important role eventually in the price of. Is What people could pay for founding prospect now. Knowing that they can breathe many as they can get to it versus what you're going to have to pay for potential stallion prospects in the future knowing that they're locked in hundred forty. Certainly, you know it's something to keep an eye on. Well. Regarding regarding Caravaggio at at Ashford and everything going on there and. Charlie Charlie O'Connor will will help you and At for those, you know even though there's not going to be that many people going toward Lexington Next week. We after for raiders got I'm going to put a plug in for for Charlie's. Bourbon has that. Amazon Bourbon Bar. Chart me for that was the breeder curve? Is You? I didn't know. Yeah. This is a of love. Yeah. That I didn't realize that. Charlie's terrific and visit the ends in. Bourbon. Bar, which is a hidden gem. Korea INVER sales. GETS A. When you got childhood finds than his. You know it's it's. Obviously the public spot anyone go. To real small bar beautifully appointed, you know with all the Bourbon trail. and. Whatnot. But what's really interesting? When say you know anyone your listeners anybody who goes in? What would you get a chance to do? Once you do go and he? You know you're going to meet people like Charlie you gotta be you know people like Cool more captain. Paul Shanahan you know all. The principles of the Komo Organization. You know you could turn around and Bump. into. Batman ended up. Chatting, with them too. So it's It's it's it's an interesting spot. You could end up, you could end up with the season you. If if you play your cards right if You spend enough they should. That's what they should do. They should have. They should have a loyalty program where. If you if you if you buy I don't know if you have one hundred. One hundred tipples you. Get half off of a season. I love it I'm glad I brought it up I. I've been meaning to do that and because we got that we've got. Our our our church, Philly that you. Recommend. Read the MOTOWN and. Right the right sire lines the I mean that's the ascending sideline. You know who? WHO's to say motown doesn't become another Nyquist store or allow Dan you know one out work. They I can see you don't know if you've noticed on the they've been advertising to motown's been. Seems to be catching a wave and he's been featured the with Tony detro-, doing some voice overs On the America's Day at the races shows. So they're they're committed to him. Docomo's are just incredibly popular right now because so rare for Wednesday down. On Komo who had a massive year to go to one, seventy five to also had three sons. Like. That you know unofficial scrap list You know quite. Quite a scene and one of the Nyquist you know he's got to grade one winners are ready. So That's phenomenal feat. It's interesting and and you know. That's what has made. We discussed last week. That's what you know that. Kind of of story line and that over rap that's what has made this Mcclain's music emergence So notable you know that. Younger Sire even than Than uncle Mo and he's GonNa have you know Already two sons that and a third son that are going to end up staying. It's crazy i. mean it it it. That you know that that the I opener. So. It it it's been. It's been a fascinating. I mean, aside from the sales stuff. Everything that's been going on is just been fascinating with with you know with. The. These three four. Sets of. Of Stallion. Changes and relocations etc.. I. Said I. It's hard. It's Under the conditions. That we're. Dealing with. It's hard not to take the take this kind of thing as. As encouraging I mean. The farms aren't they're not gonNA make these kinds of commitments. Obviously. You know are continuing to be confident about about things. Yeah. I mean you know it's Your. Team failed. There you know. They'd be down a little. Or against team they were down twenty percent but you know people are still invested in this game and. The people have divide flips before they survived the great. Recession. You know You're always GONNA have. Big Economic. Downturns. And people survive things might get reshuffled the bit and. You know What not but so far The way the the market is You know people were still breathing Morse's Yup. You know and and I think also people. When you're in this when you're in this business. On that side. E You you know you look to the horizon. attracted. It's not you know you can't be you can't be tunnel visioned. you know you're you're. Looking You know down the road and and you you that that that part is really true because I can't point. We have a client that Actually looking to win the remember shale to increase at nine. Because potentially going to be a buyer's market. So Y, you may have some people that you know can't hold on. So you've got new right with other people that are in a position to say you know what this the time to expand. And that's you know those are those are also Factors that should be you know look that because you never know Yacky what's going to happen but anecdotally, I can tell you that I know several people that are actually bullish on buying because of. A perceived value. We talked about that in in. Two Thousand and eight the. Yeah. I mean the fact that that this you know that. I don't want to call them opportunists, I. You know people people that that understand the cycles You know saw it as a chance to go to build their operation and and this has gone on. This is not a new phenomenon obviously This is this has been true for generations at that. You know the. The been flow and? You know we also had. We also had Incursions from various international. Entities whether it was the Japanese point and and British interests and you know that that. This has been going on forever and. You GotTa have the wherewithal I mean obviously the the people who are. Victims in this and and said you and I. You and I very frequently. Reference. The overall. Societal themes. and. It's very true here to the most vulnerable and the. Those that I don't want to call them hobbyists per se but you know the smallish. Backyard breeders and those that you know have a handful of of mayors and and you know. It's not maybe not their full time business or you know it augment. Income or how can however those people? They can suffer I mean if they're not if you're not capitalized and and you don't have the wherewithal to withstand, you know these you know these vagaries. Those are the people that are going to are going to suffer or or are going to leave the business. But that doesn't mean that they're mayors aren't going to be absorbed into you know other operations. And That's a really good point also inept flow than. You had in the eighties of very high participation level. Crops you know with Iraq decade, it's basically been between eighteen and twenty thousand folks per year You know dismay dropping Further. But what? I've seen. Is that as. A those people you just referenced. Leave. and this is another societal analogy. The people whip the capitol. Have increased their stake in the game. So essentially what you have. Are. People at the year people with the means controlling a greater portion of the Pie? whereas. Before you know you may have had had. You know. More individual involvement. You know it's it's sort of the mom and pop bookstore. appeared the chain comes in. and. So you do have. A greater. Number of. capitalized entities. That are participating in the game. We we've talked about this with even with erling buying. You know you have partnerships now. Of many big players on the same more. So it's it's that type of thing that's happened. You've. Got More people at the top owning more of the Pie. and that's been the case over the decade where it's the stabilized say focuses between eighteen and twenty or whatever it is. But the composition of ownership. Owning that group is a smaller number then you know prior kinds. it's better for the game obviously if you can have work participation but again. It's just the trend of consolidation that we've seen throughout society. RACING RACING IS A. Racing reflection or microcosm of we're at. Society, there's there's there's not too much. Too, much we. Can't connect. From from one to the other said it's yeah. Avoid I'll I'll avoid any other suggests or? Possibly you know guys. I like you that are participating. That that that's a great part of the game. Like you GotTa. Mayor Bleeding to motown. you know. Hopefully you know. Hopefully, we get more people you know perhaps perhaps. The the buying opportunities roar encourage even smart guy come into it. Attractive options right now. Well, and and there's There's a conversation to be had and frankly our our. listenership. Is As. You know aside from the participants that are already participating. you know the stakeholders. There's To me. The next. That next wave if it is going to if it is gonNA. Come. It, should come from the series horse players. and. There's real potential here because. The, there's A. There's already I mean look at in fact, I'll go back I brought up Marshal Graham and Klay Sanders earlier with ten strike and they started as. A claiming outfit and you know. Racing for fun and you know like anybody you, you know you, you keep trying to upgrade your approach and and your stock. then. You know you start buying young horses. Then you keep a few you know mayors that you can't bear to part with because they campaigned successfully for you as as a stable and next thing you know you're breathing and then you're then you're creating own breads that the the next generation well that. That same potential is out there for you know countless. Serious, horse players who could easily you know if they mentally made a commitment to peel off I, don't know fifteen percent of their of their bankroll you know. Every. So often. Every time, there's a nice hit in appeal off a chunk and and start a fund and the same way that some of you are putting together a pick five consortium and playing as a group do the same thing and and. Try Try this, I mean look at Billy Billy Kacha as with with little red feather saint thing they you know now they've got not only they breeding, but they've got pinned book operation that they've created. So there I met to I've seen a lot of guys you know they have had higher I've seen that they've done stuff like that I mean even Twitter, guys like T T P and it. These guys are gamblers, but they also tweeted about horses, day Roan. And have experienced in you know Racing So and I saw this other guy. then. Yada John. said he just bought into a year. You know it all. If. You have that desire to do it Then then you know some of these guys doing and you're you're against Marshall Van. I mean they've had some great success. And with very sharp guy, obviously. You know it all depends on the inclination is there and they're in a situation obviously financially that can do it but usually what happens is and. You're the continue your train of thought people actually who do it when the market comes down more words becomes more affordable. So It'd be interesting to see you now. Again, as market does come down whether it matter of fact, when you're our listeners here, most of Nolan tweeted the painted she was going to look for. A mirror something in the keeneland November sale. Nice. You know. So you see how you know Sometimes Times you know people you know do take those chances when when. When you the market as being a good buying opportunity I mean that's really how everything works but. To to look to to. Look for instance at at. Just one that comes to mind with with the ten strike Is that thought Matrix you know who's now a seven year old gelding has made six, hundred, sixty, seven, thousand dollars. And Was Bred. Is a Freud gelding out of on dot dot, which was a mayor that they campaigned and I think Marshall. Marshall Bread Yeah trucks than staples. That was marshals. Sort of personal stable to begin with and You know a horse, one more slide dot matrix whether you sell it for Nice money or or if you campaign it. Cleans up a lot of miscues. In other areas and and things that don't go right. I will tell people that. There's heartache that can come with this. Don't don't think that this is you know. This is any less. Yeah. Any less frustrating than being an owner because it's not I it's maybe more frustrating because in some cases you wait and you wait and you wait and you may end up, you know with nothing whether you were going to sell or you know the horse gets hurt. In training, you're going to sell a two year old in training or you're in a campaign. yearling that. You know just the. The best thing there there is there is the flip side of this and I have to I want to caution people, Aaron, you Goethe who is as savvy is anybody that's involved in in the game. Aaron. Errands got the greatest line of course, strikes Of family and Aaron says, I believe in God I, just don't want him picking out my bloodstock. Which is why he doesn't read. And I love that line because it's like. It doesn't matter how fancy you you can. You don't necessarily know you're not necessarily going to get but it you know and then we've lost you know we've lost babies three babies in that you know. That full sleep. During comes in I. Hope you're. Very, very tough. So Zip this was fabulous I I WANNA get dr all day in But we covered a ton between ellendale exciting partnership with Edina we'll hear from John Secure. That and then daredevil lay abandoned and Caravaggio. So. We'll talk next week then well, you gotTa, you gotta put your pedigree work to the you know you got you got fourteen breeders, Cup races. So this is this is your time to shine next week. You know boy. And sydell also shine helping you pick out does. Your broodmare band five, one, zero, four, nine, Eleven, eleven work thoroughbred consultants. and. Their expertise second to none. And I appreciate it sit Fernando everybody and We'll stay right here because we're GonNa talk to Dr All day and I. You know whatever whatever we have rip from today's. Top News Dr all days expertise and incredibly helpful. This. Particular. Case I want him to explain. The use of Anti inflammatories and. The. The AH made method zone. which is a legal. Therapeutic. Med. But it doesn't. Just saying that doesn't. Answer all the questions just Oh, it's overreach. That's That's a simplistic. View of things. So. Casey reaching for. For Steve, and he'll tell you what you need to know. Ed Rose is GONNA join us to a little bit. And we'll start to We'll start to. Talk. About the approach I want. I, want to spend time before the fields are completely assembled. The want to spend some time talking about you know organizing yourself and how to Bet Breeders Cup Dr Steven alday joins us. Horse Health today brought to you by Luba and Reborn Steve Good Morning. Steve. We reach as we've reached out to you so many times in the past. Let, you. Pine. This Beta. Method zone. Therapeutic and non how it's. How it's Signal I can't hear what you're saying. All right. There's some. There's some reverberations near to Casey. Wanted you. Want to. Get Steve Back, yeah give him another call that was weird I could I could hear myself. So we'll get I could tell something was. Steve's phone. If there's one. If there's one regular over the years. And a lot of times you know he's out, you know he might be in a barn he might be in a field. So. There are times when I. When I? Can understand that expect but there does seem that. When we have audio. Issues a lot of times it's sits with him. Let's try to get maybe. Stave. One second. Got Him back in the we lost him again. It must be must he you know he's gotten? No He's in. What we're seeing on. SISSONVILLE. Simpson I think. When if he's out if he's at his place. In the countryside. But he could be anywhere. You'd never know. That's Calling Dr? All Day paging Dr Alda. Wait. There's no reason to look repeat. Second time and then a third time. To him actually while we while we wait am I could give you the. Result yesterday from. From. Finger Lakes and you know even though even though thin white Duke. Started poorly I thought he was vulnerable anyway but they had a terrible start. He walked out of the gate and then came running late but still got beat by half a dozen blue gator for the why coughs and Mike Maker. To for to. I think we'll try again save their. Yeah. A little better, but you still pretty muffled. Son of a gun. All right. I'll make I'll just hand it off to you. Talk. About. A product like Beta medicine. And using. Therapeutic. Anti inflammatories. Two weeks out. The mechanics of of what? The Vet and the trainer deals with in a case like we're seeing with. Geen. Well you know I mean the. Apparently. They followed the the regulations you know according to you know. What's has been released and You know obviously they they. This system for Kentucky for New York around places and The problem. Steve. Is that you know when you when you see these new situations like this you know you're gonna you're gonNA. Have Hiccups you can have. You know the they will come up with these minute amounts of Kara. Basically didn't have lots. You say white. Horse is an individual and for whatever reason discord on. Which obviously, you know provides any. He properties enjoins. It's very comedies commonly used in La. Chicken used quite bakery and It just this case early it's. It has. Cheated metabolize the way. They expected or whatever. So you know I mean unfortunately, it's like it's still beyond the threshold. Or to call. That test, the problem and and obviously it's the IRA now, and obviously, you know this is all maybe a little premature to cause remember now the. Was Comeback at so. Sometimes he since y'all for not the point because it's gotta come back from every sample in order to be Order. TO BE CONSIDERED A. Test so far online is. Still talking you know in our hats here but actually We'll wait and see just what comes up to now wise occurring probably because it's An island out. Quite right. So. Well. Steve will tell. Explain. Explain. The diagnostic part of this and explain why. A trainer and a vet. Wanted Using Anti-obama Tori letelier illegal med, what you're dealing with in the horse and what the treatment represents and and why you know if you're on a schedule to try to get to a a race, you know a race is weeks away explain how that decision is made and what the trainer is dealing with in that case and what the vet is trying to help with. Actually occurred here is you know obviously they detected either in deficit or something that they felt like created like an cemetry in a day or you know she showed maybe some fusion. Head or pressuring joint, whatever and they. evaluated. The situation of physical physical exam maybe an order or. Go Away to graphically determine that they were going to go ahead and institute into our ticket or injection Most likely HEIREANN GAS IT and according to steroid in combination, and this is why this is done and this is why it showed up but we're talking about two weeks out because the rules Paul Kane used to be. People used horses a awake out sometimes. Certain jurisdictions a couple of days out now it's been backed up to fourteen days to the level of withdrawal and or the entrusts hold that would. Do Passable. We'd get through a post race examination of both serum or urine and essentially. It's it's it's it's just goes with the with the Times I. Mean, you know these horses are trained hard sometimes, they require mainland show to keep these joints comfortable and keep them from overload another airs, and when you could potentially create breakdown or injury or permanent deficit. If you don't address it, it may be not necessary this joint but maybe you know compensatory that she was coming off getting away from this problem. So this is why do the join Jackson's essential and you know the case think that virtual for decades ten things that came up with twenty seven according to the. Information, I was given an farmland Muzak. Their ritual, they have to call them. Zero tolerance on anything goes over. The threshold so. This is done. This is why it's detected. It just seems like it's a fairly new system disqualify that, and so therefore, just a situation where we really need to look. You, know the the the system is a little out of kilter or maybe they're the threshold there declaring is not. Proper for you know the medication that they're looking at or testing or. Maybe, the guy got a little too much in. It's hard to say but more than likely that would be changed my problems is. Different kind of house. From the standpoint of he's racing big races, the oaks is. Is Major fixture on any three year old fillies. Deaths and you know you know you don't push the envelope on waste that or so you know I it's obviously a misunderstanding indoor a, and then there's no doubt in my mind was not pension. So Salaam line is that you know it's gotta get down fixed and figured out what's the best way to go forward with this situation from their on. Didn't Steve The What other options are out there and This is a product Beta method zone that is. That that does have a tendency to linger and so what what what options do you have I mean if you're if you're just trying to if you're just trying to kind of. Placate some some inflammation. What else can you do? You can go with any inflammatory route more predictable It basically just covers symptoms as necessary picture of the problem itself. So that's one of the drawbacks of it, but it's safe and it's it's a lot more predictable and you know you've got a lot more number of cases that have actually discovered. You know the the The the process. So you're less likely to have an over over at your pets comeback with a problem. This you go with other medications adequacy on the go with a number. You know you go on and on about what could be done, but the bottom line is, yeah that's not what was elected here was elected to injector, and that's why they've got the problem to deal with curve on a different corker steroid gone with try and similar on. A night, which is bete-noire or catalog and this particular. Is a lot more predictable and in independent was a lot more consistently. So you know his own I mean I'm not going to tell another guy practice, but it's got their way and I've got mine too obviously. But in this particular case it just you know I obviously, it's coming back because of the shock, it's going to cost them a fair amount of purse money indoor. Other in all the other things that go on with that, but you know I mean, this is the core. Still premature. Let's just wait and see how the free sample comes back. It comes back. You know at the threshold below then you know then the. Formula Well, and I and specifics. This specific case is just I thought a good opportunity for you to explain. What the outfits? This or any other outfit is dealing with you know trying to trying to treat issues you know with the the legal meds and I'm glad that that unprompted you brought up something that I said early in the show and I. Hated your visit, which is. Why we we've pushed the use of any therapeutics. We've pushed them further and further away from race. Day and. You brought up a great point that you know forty eight hours than seventy two, then seven days now fourteen days, and so it's you know you're you're the methodology of of dealing with. With. A with a horse and and getting them to A. Tour an assignment. Keeps changing, but and evolving and everybody has to deal with that I mean, that's just that's part of. That's part of. Playing by the rules and You know. That that element though the public should appreciate you know that there's less and less. There's less and less going into Chuck Simon said this yesterday, there's less and less actually going into the ors. That's Most definitely. I mean, you know you look you're getting a pure product. You know you're getting a true expression in a good thing from the standpoint that you know you're you're probably getting better expression to the actual genetics and it probably helps set the breeding game long run probably. The better horses with the better pedigrees are probably winning better. Race is not a good thing because that way you can perpetuate the best. To. I appreciate it. Steve I wanted I wanted to slip this today and Because people. We've talked about so many different times over the years. And the public doesn't. It doesn't seem that they're interested in in understanding the difference between therapeutic meds and. Medications that. You know are are specifically. Looking to. A evade detection and essentially I mean A. Conscious efforts that she versus. You know the the threshold issues and And the overages involved in therapeutic meds I it. It's always worth a discussion. Yes most definitely because they'll mainly see. But you said, you know, I officer moving target that's problematic for the end user and the second thing is is that you know you you the more cases you have the more number you have in buying the better statistical she should have a what you mean you know look at is or how far you need to look at what medications need to look at for the withdrawal period. You're saying you don't get. You don't have these kind of post race problems since we. Dr Steven All Day horse help today brought to you by Lewiston and reborn visit Lou Verson L. U. B. R. I, S. Y. N. Dot Com and the all day dot com where. And and singer help you with Your Sport Horse Your Pleasure Horse you're. Whatever it might be Steve Always. Appreciate it. Thank you buddy you got. Dr Steven All day and Steve's on twitter four legs dock. tweets. I think the LEWISTON team tweets more than than Steve once in a while. Once, in a while he'll. He'll send up a flare. Or shot across the bow. So that, we're going to stay here because we got much to do. We got fifty minutes and Ed to rose is going to join us and then Nick Zito. zito appearance. Always. Great. We're to talk to nick because it's the thirteenth anniversary thirteen years ago today. War Pass in the juvenile and I think we're good at the I think for the. Nick what's to bring up the thirty six read too and? I don't blame him thirty six red thirty years ago today. For his try in the classic where he was third behind unbridled. Let let nick talk he's had you know he's had his share of. He's had to think he's got to. To Breeders Cup Wins Storm Song she won she won A. Juvenile fillies for Nick. But he's had. You know he's he's had a few dozen tries and has had a lot of board hits at and Tomorrow Kirin? McLaughlin. Will be a lot of fun because Kirin a Garin also had a ton. Over the years he had a I got a I. Think I wrote it down somewhere. He had in in vizor obviously low dude and. I mentioned earlier but he had I bet you another six or seven near misses. A Knicks add. Share as well. Nick two wins, four seconds and five thirds in the cop tough to win and Ed Rosa is. Going to. Help discuss. How you win how you approach the Breeders Cup Ed Good Morning. Good Morning. Coming on A. Really is and this is a good time as we wait for tomorrow's pre-entry announcement, and then we can start to at least for you know the the fields that will not be. You know. undefined. The they'll be a few races where they'll be cross entries and you know we'll have to get some feel on the decisions. The leans but it's a good opportunity to just think about. The manner in which you approach the cop and I, I do this every year the week out it's always. Fun to a people talk about your general approach maybe how it's evolved over the years as the event has expanded the others. There's more you know in race choices there's more others today day there's multi-race. There's so many different ways to approach it talk a little bit about your. Your Breeders, Cup vetting philosophies. I think Somewhat, cliche about another day at the races. But from a handicap in perspective especially knowing you're getting two full days great ray things top to bottom both days you know i. do think it's Ok where my strongest opinions were my weakest opinions and how do I could you know it? The most value out of the former and avoid the mind of the ladder, and for me just thinking back as a as a young player I think one of my my bigger mistakes back when. I was okay I you know have X. Tibet and Aminu bad. You know this much on each race or this much on each pick three and obviously that's not an appropriate use of your bankroll not all opinions of the same and You know we have the luxury. Of the breeders, Cup of being able to look at these races you know really for for weeks ahead of time and we've got the contender PP's out for a while now but the pre entries help us. Focus a little clear, and then the final PP's next week fully into focus where we wanNA take our stand. But for me, that's what You know. Again, any day at the races I think you want to make sure you know strong opinions our but especially, Breeders Cup where we have it's a pair of mutual gain and a lot of opinions out there listening to your show obviously social media reading brisk net reading the competition. It's important. I think to now where people are gravitating and if you have an opinion that's against that, that's usually a good opportunity. So eagerly awaiting my first thought of man everyone thinks this is great. I don't like that one at all that might be an opportunity or vice versa You know you're on a horse that people tell you can't win I'm surprised that seems like by my standard still flying under the radar and you know. Is He is likely winner of that race of course not but it fifteen or twenty to one. You know maybe that's the horse you can. You can do a whole whole day's wages around trying to get in the number. So those are the things I'm thinking about. And there's a few there's a few things to riff off of that and a lot of it It gets into the you know. The bankroll management. You know especially, if you know, you know you are going to have a limited bankroll and limited limited for some people might be you know twenty, five hundred and some others might be two, hundred fifty and for others literally might be you know seventy five to one hundred dollars for the two days and and they have to be. Very austere but you you WanNa make it count and so applying your leverage to your. Specific situation is a big part of this and There's you know there's any number of. Of of advisable. I I would say mental approaches and one of the things I always talk about is that you know. It's two days and really the Saturday being the key. It's only gonNA take one hit It's only gonNA take. You know one. Opinion successfully executed to make the weekend. And I and if it if it happens to come in the classic I, bring this up. All the time we were walking out. Tina was with me. In fact, we were walking out for the classic and I'd had a rotten day. And? It just happened that. I made a decision with like literally seven minutes the Post that I was going to. Key off of Fort Larne it I love the way Fort Leonard looked going to the you going on the track and I ended up. Hitting. The try and making the whole weekend There I think the keeneland going back to the keeneland. The first for. Day, hit A. Pick four on Friday for thirty, six hundred and you know, and then Kinda coasted and gave some back and did not have much of a Saturday it. It doesn't matter where you do it. It it just. You, you can be patient and and hit your spot. And it's going to make the weekend You can't. You know you can't. Get down on yourself if you don't hit your first three bets of the of the two days. That's right. Yeah. I would encourage people in. Some ways to supplies to any day of racing as well. But you know with the Breeders Cup and some confidence in the big pools and and things aren't going to get zapped in the final minute You know the the wind pool definitely comes into play for me on the bigger a and that you know to bring up computer players as Boogie man. I'm cognizant that the odds you see it two or three minutes to post on a Tuesday at Mahoning or likely not going to be the final odds when they spring the latch there even at at Churchill or naira, but I'm Breeders Cup. Day I think you know with all the chatter and you get a sense of how the markets reacting and we'll react you know there are some opportunities where you can feel confident you're going to get the price you want on a horseshoe like and don't don't squander those opportunities with lesser opinions and sometimes there's ways to make your strong opinion on a horse who can win work and exotic wagering and other times. Maybe those are the races around it that you've identified as you're not is comfortable with and don't have a strong opinion and you know hundred win at ten to one thousand dollars. You can spend that same hundred on a pick three that either pay nothing or pays less than that. So I always be mindful especially with your singles of of what you would be guaranteed to get the win pool if you hit. I'd also throw in one of my favorite suggestions that and you know invariably I hear from people you know after. Copper after triple crown. Weekends. I if if you are. Let's say you're a pick four player pick five player in the most of the year. And particularly if you've got. Fairly limited budget and you can't spend. Freely. I've suggested for years especially as the with the with the denominations. Lowering, the fifty cents rise in the vison threes. If you. are a pick four player. Cut Back. You know one race and play pick threes if you're a a pick three player. You may want to. Cut back and play doubles. Because, the you know the exponential risk and and grant granted the exponential reward of hitting the bats the bigger. Speak for themselves but. The payoffs are are so. Typically. Inflated Breeders Cup that you can. Heal offset that you. You don't you don't have to not every single bet has to be. A grand slam walk off home run. and. Decreasing the level of difficulty by dialing back. One Layer. If you're if you're a super player back it up tries if you're try player backed up to exact us I, mean I I have made that suggestion repeatedly over the years at. I you know myself. I try to I try to be conscious especially if you're you're feeling like you don't have. You know you don't. You don't have as good a feel in some of the legs and particularly if you think there's you know five six wind candidates in a spot and you know as opposed to as opposed to Monday through Sunday. It there's going to be racist. You'RE GONNA look at and say I mean there's six or seven horses that can legitimately win and so what does that do to your multi-race approach? And I think to even if you. Are Typically a pick four, pick five player as I am I mean I. You know I'm guilty anyone that thought chasing the big payoff and you know the the ego boost is well I. had it definitely more in play with the pick five, pick three but. You know as you're looking through a sequence, you may find man this seems really logical. What am I adding in terms of using the favorite in the fourth leg of a pick four verses Playing the pick three maybe for dollar instead of fifty cents. Or just thinking of those options is while like okay here's my pick five. Here's what it's GonNa. Cost I'm you know maybe you're comfortable that you love the ticket fine but there are times when I'm looking I'm like man, I have the checking and and third choice and three hundred, the five legs and you know is is the pick three the better opportunity to you know really make score it's not as sexy to do that per se but I think a lot of times we. We cost ourselves. equity by you know playing extra legs where that's not where strongest opinions are. The. It's obviously early to start. Digging in and and and. Having a feel for who you're a you may lean on. But certainly, if we use last year for instance as as an example, I mean there there were no shortage of players that absolutely. Just figured that that bricks and mortar couldn't lose and the that was there. You know that was their late Saturday single and. You got a little Lucky v the that that could have gotten. A God no I I can't even imagine the numbers. You know how they they would've is sort. If united hangs on but you know that that is the example that you you for. You know that kind of opinion I I talked about it. It's thirteen years ago today that we had the MONMOUTH. Breeders Cup and for a minute loop horse both years. Groupie. Doll a horse both years that I I just I didn't think would lose. and. That's where you make your stand and then you feather out from there. I think it's been awhile can't think the last time I really felt Shraga. Sister. Charlie two years ago But yeah, I mean you're you have a few. And they don't always come in obviously but I think my strongest opinion last year. Steve Actually was I was against midnight zoo and made the most starters blue prize be my top pick and unfortunately I did have a pick for going united be no Rosa. So I've I've thought a few times about what that may come back. Racing I've been on the other side of it too. So When it comes out in the Washer ahead? Yeah, and I think that's a good point to You know about flu prize she wasn't necessarily my most likely winner on the day. I would say probably bricks and mortar who, I. I did have singled on a fair share of tickets but because blue prize one was able to to stretch a little bit in the turf but sometimes I. Think it can be valuable to have that strong opinion of of what favorite is GonNa be and I know for some if they're really going to believe in the numbers that might be princess nor and Friday in the juvenile fillies you know monoploy girl could be one people are against they might have a strong opinion with skydiver. The dispatch fast you know so to me that strong opinion doesn't always have to be at most likely winner and I would actually discourage people if you have the same most likely winners everyone else fine. But this probably less value in that unless you have A. Another opinion to go with it against the favorite So hopefully, we'll find some vulnerable favorites too because to me that's just as important as finding the the ones you like to win. That that's well that's. Point well taken. And the the vulnerable favorite side of it to me feels more like a like a an in-race. Opportunity. Because even even a potential vulnerable favorite is probably GONNA make their way onto at least a backup to hit right when it comes to the Maltese. Yes especially, if you like price where I mean that's something you know that's where I think. The ABC method comes in handy is is not necessarily just know putting. you know what I would say the grid or Chris would say ABC's not just always happening that and saying, okay, I can have you know three as gonNa be Etcetera Etcetera I think to me about okay. Where are the vulnerable favor satellites but? Would I really WANNA get beat by a two to one if by my standard classic of course not. But am I willing to get beat by the two to one if his law runs off the screen maybe So those to me are the second level decisions that you know. An exotic player needs to consider. 'cause you know it's definitely no fun putting. Fifty dollars into sequence chalks out So I'm always looking to play those kinds of tickets, but it's the same time if I think yeah, the can win. It's two to one value in the wind pool maybe not but it's probably value if you hook it up with a separator horse like by my standards might be. Still and Just, looking I as we're talking I, pulled up I pulled up last year. and. 'cause I I. Yeah I, I had made bricks and mortar. Thought I had. Yeah, I had singled bricks and mortar. In the In the pick for the pick five. And And actually hit. A pick four actually hit on a backup ticket. with. Blue. Prizes. The Sea. and. I mean, you know look at it last year I mean the the tough horse the horse was blue prize who you nailed because it went the pick five went Matali. Muni. Blue, prize bricks, and mortar Vino. Rosso. Yeah Prize, was the. Biggest price there. Everybody else is going to be on your ticket. I. Mean. Matali. Obviously I mean the right and and. Certainly Odi. Bricks and mortar in. The pick four paid four forty. And I forget what the pick five paid. but. That's another I also recommend an anti certainly. Got Me doing this weeks ago when we started talking about the. The keeneland. Breeders Cup at and. Get it going back and looking at. UH Go back and look. At. The charts and Dig through. Y- at this point, this is what Breeders Cup. Thirty. Eight. Thirty seven, thirty, seven to thirty, eight dance, and then range and There's there's certain themes I mean including including some that are inexplicable like the juvenile turf races how how? The Euro. Invaders. Win The the boys race and they can't win the girls race. It's it's the craziest thing. I it makes no sense. That is bizarre but. Interesting Yeah. It it's you know there's certain things that you know that the cup is has managed to. You know at this point as managed to you know there's certain themes that Become. You know become pretty regular but I I would think you know because of. Because of the late nature I mean obviously we're worried about the way the turf is GonNa play. And you know how much more weather we're going to get between now and next week but. You know. Having. A feel for what went on Keeneland four years ago. Is probably going to you know probably serves you pretty well. in terms of shorter term sample and I'm I'm inclined to think. Maybe more anomaly because. Six and a half and seven for a long. This was not an issue but the rail was over thirty nine going six for long fifteen months in October. The rail was over thirty, nine, oh. That's right. That's right. That's right. Fix furlongs. I I do have one Breeders Cup at I've already placed a friend in Canada. Got Me down. Tell me. I have a wind parlay sister traveling by my standards three, hundred, thirty, seven to one. Way listed where do where? What how is that? How is that place? one candidate they they have access to I. Don't know if this was caddy power what. But one of. The. They're allowed to use the you know the European books. Okay. So just you know the beauty at twitter at a buddy up there. I know likes to get down on some futures and I just nice. Noticed that odds checker prices, I was comfortable with and. Instead, of Beckenham individually I figure after ten bucks I can. Cover my day if they both went very cool I. Like. Well we're going to do more of this as we get closer of course and Heddon they'll get ed and James and. The the full, the full frontal assault next, week? Yeah. I I right yes. It's funny. I, my inclination I I've been set. And I I was wavering a few weeks ago and then I sort of made a mental commitment and then over the last twenty, four hours I've I've suddenly. Suddenly gotten a little. IFFY. Again But I I expect so. The team has got to get rid of me for. It's The. Results. Tuesday, have any sway on your decision. No not not You know not not. Not unless know somebody's planning overturning my car an setting it on fire. That's more likely if you K- wins the game then. That's just couches I thought. Well. We'll see I I. MY I got I'm book actually I paid for paid for a room so I'm I'm. kind of locked in but Committed as they say. Good job. Couple of quick hits about the weekend and an opening day. Sunday. Yeah, it was actually a good day hopefully, exercising some demons from a great September meet at Churchill. But I, I like Kenny's horse who ran off the screen camp hope attend to one. So that that was a good one to have I'm not sure what the deal is with coach You know the the owner and the winner circle. After the race. Ricky Byrd said, they thought about debut in sorts for tag and I know after the debut which themed decent you know they were still like we're not sure that race was much meant she ran off the screen again and then she wins a stakes race You Know Tartu imagine a Brad Cox two year old who won its? First two career races by fourteen combined fourteen lengths. was odds-on interstates debut but you know we'll. We'll see she must not be a morning glory because you know it was hard to hear too much positive but that was exciting and I. thought a good start to the made. It was great to see fans Churchill, from what I saw was very strict about enforcing. The regulations to keep people say so I felt good about being there and just over always great. To See Butts in the seats and getting out of the seats to cheer their horses on stage now that's yeah. That part of it it. It's amazing. Even, just watching it and hearing people and seeing you know seeing movement and activity is just. Realize how much you miss it. Saratoga Saratoga season was just so you know. It's kind of empty Being there was nice but it just didn't have it just doesn't. Not, the same, it's just not the same. I do have a pick for Wednesday go ahead. race number six, fifty thousand claimer I like number six, noman eight to one on the morning line the the person net rating fix up with this group hoping that you know people are kind of thrown off by the New Mexico form I love to know the story how the source ended up ship in Eastern Kentucky to be in Brendan's Barn and they throw in for tag right off the rip. But I think we're going to get the right price with those running lines to take a shot at this one can can run back to a couple of good races in New Mexico. Nice. They've had Race actually I just you know just looking at entries and and so forth but The. Racing I mean, the fields have been feel sizes been good. Yeah Ten races as well. One thing Thursday. So you know robust cards and I would definitely planned for off the turf though for those. You gotTA start wondering. Yes. Well. Six race tomorrow and three, thirty, six, eastern and ED I. Appreciate it This is great and we'll do more of it, and then we'll start to zero in next week with with you and James, and of course, the full complement of. Material and information and reports and. the. COMING FROM THE PRISONER TEAM and Twin spires. Ed. Thanks a lot. My pleasure. We're going to stay here because nick. Zito is standing by and I knew this morning when I saw that it was exactly thirteen years ago today that we were all at Monmouth Park. I don't care how much rain came down. It was still great and it was it was a terrific cup. Despite. Everything and part of it was nick winning with war passage joins us now nick of Morton. Morning Mr Steve Great Show today I had I. Got Lucky a little bit of I. got out for a little while in You had some great guests on all days. Amazing. And Hid Fernando's amazing and I've been listening so I did good today you had a great show. Thank you. Well. These these are fun. You know yesterday with Meg and we talked about his his win as a writer and also has i. which came for Tommy skipping ten and eighty five. Talk about your, you know the way you viewed the The Cup. When it when it was instituted and how you you know how you started to gear Opportunities horses toward it. Well, we're fortunate as you know, we had a lot of great horses and. I think you know comes to mind you know thirty six reds was very interesting, and then we'll go back to pass thirty six. Nineteen ninety. So you go way back and It was very interesting because. He had run second. He had run derby died waited for the Belmont runs second. And I'm bridal was four. We were second took some island going to come over here right and and beat us. But it was really interesting Dr all day and you were talking about medications whatever you look at the pretty sure in the Belmont. We beat them bridal. He had no lasix because we didn't have and he couldn't use any new. York it's a time. And then The cup. Unbridled did beat us. It was an inexperienced jockey you get a kick out of this everybody will. Name was Mike Smith I said Mikey. Is. Really Is really dead today. Favorite cycle more to come home, you can stay right on rail. In Bay and bridal beat him. But he was tough. You know he fought. All the around. I don't know if he was going to beat them but I mean. Mike was on and he gave us a good. So from then. I think we started to. Build off the nineties went on. Then Steve. Ninety six is you brought up that was a good one because we had storm Song I love that jazz one to. Add except acceptable for General George George Steinbrenner Steinbrenner he had got be Mac and then Louis could tell us. At. The time of the world's richest race got beat knows. alphabet soup and Cigar was third. I. Was in Canada. Sort of copped was always on my mind. And then. Walk Passes. Cop was just spectacular because I run into Musa today and. A Nice horse that he's got his funeral I said not Steve. Kinda. Reminds you walk she says, yeah I know you beat me three times three times twice with pyro and once Kodiak Cowboy Got Jackie's worry reminds me of. pestle because undoubtably he was the best two year old. Watch Steve is you know horses he came up with some problems as old then. I look at that would memorial. They used the rabbit to run with him and it's the first time rabbit was out run. Actually pass ranch faster than the rabbit and just got beat up the wire. But he was a great but does was Breeders Cup was just tremendous I think what happens is if you are in position. And I made one mistake you'll this team as you're going to start him. I did make a mistake I'll tell you what it was. It had was called Greenwood Lake. On the Champagne. And remember the nonsense with said Oh. You know which is all true at the time you can't win the Derby if you If you win Breeders Cup two year old and and that right and you had an fly know I'm gonNA waited. I'll be. So that's an across myself to Chiro Championship because. Forces that wanted. We had destroyed. You know what I mean and I didn't I just felt like, well, let's get and it didn't work out because he came back as trae roller. Know so I think the Breeders Cup is really really really beneficial for anybody that can run and it should it because you never know what happens if very next year but any of the horses whether it's a two, zero, three, zero, it's. Anything better off if you have a chance, you should participate for sure because the great opportunity. He had the refresh everybody's memory i. mean he really burst on the scene with with the debut fairly early in the meet at Saratoga Your good friend Andy. You Sat in a box me we couldn't believe it because I told everybody I loved this horse and I'll tell you it starring real quick after that leading up to so so knock a tiny rodent looking on the board seven to one. So wait a second. I don't even know who is in you would know but he won first time out and for us that was great because we don't usually squeeze him but. You know you couldn't name my first time stars role stakes stakes-winning won first time out. And walk passes just brand came back if you can believe it. Take you one other then. Yeah they don't have them more. You have to run a mistake. They don't have them anymore. If you break your main running the state, you don't run into one very, very risky especially in New York but anyway. He did that then he wanted to champagne and then he was just tremendous in the Breeders Cup he was just tremendous. So here's a wonderful thing was happy you know missile defense and Bob was. Happy at his crew and we all happy. It was just a wonderful day Jimmy Islam was there and he got into, you know his dad was instrumental with. Two. Years. It was it was a cool thing and you know Lincoln my good friend. Good it was a lot of good memories that thank you for bringing them on. So I, love your show. That's the thing about it is but predeceased cough debris. It's It's it's in itself because all the races. The triple crown which as you know, there's nothing like the Derby, the preakness. Belmont. One is run the right way but. The Breeders Cup brings all those races so for the actual as you point out. Fan or racing. Fan. It's probably his biggest day. You know I think you know what? I'm saying I think his biggest. Old. Visions. All divisions and you could tell who could be champion, who could be not champion and Is Very very interesting and it. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. Good thing years ago. They didn't have the Breeders Cup and Breeders Cup took a lot of emphasis away from these famous races. Yes we used to have. And some people you know historians I mean. People have. Broken this game is still. kind of upset about that. It took a lot of way but on the other hand. Look of the attention avoid publicity, and slowly you know all the action basically so. It's a good thing I like to see. You know what I love to see. Thrilling races I mean or an exceptional I hope that The two year old Jackie's were. I hope he keeps going because he reminds me of war cast my. Office obviously got a nice loss. There's a lot of Nice losses in have but. I like to see that and then the other thing that Breeders Cup brings to. Look at Whitmore what is he seven? Now? He's seven I think. More running. So isn't that wonderful that you got horses like that in Scranton everything so You got the Europeans whatever. Stephen Learning philosophy and listen to you I'm telling you. The. Dick Powell Hong Kong I got it up. We're going to listen we're. going. To listen to war passes. Breeders Cup Juvenile Win just just to give everybody the the field as nick mentioned Corey Nakatani gets them home at seven to one in Saratoga the end of July July, twenty eighth and in in there actually I and I don't this amazes me I did not remember that's lose Tis now. It was also his debut Joel Lacomb and Pat Bian. Koen. Was Training for Joola Calm I. Always think of them sloughs tizzy and sluiced his now I think of them as west coast but sloughs Tis now debuted at Saratoga. In this race the favourite was was Rick Violet and Seth Carmen and Bill Lawrence, with globalization I remember that because he ran into Breeders Cup of that. And and Zayat had commandeered who was second to you at a big price to this was This was a nice mutual, fifteen, eighty, two, win and fifteen, forty two to place the exact the paid to eighty eight for two bucks. Sixteen but whatever well then. I'm sure Then the allowance when you mentioned and that's where you met Pyro the first time and then listen to this field in the champagne war pass. And you did not go favored, which is, which is interesting majestic warrior. was was favored. That's kinsman. Now that's that's. and. Steinbrenner. War Pass Beats, Pyro Z. Humor Lantana mob silver edition Majestic Warrior Anna Kim, and readies image that was. A very nice champagne and you still pay eleven twenty and that sets up this Breeders Cup where this time you argo favored. Little under five to two and lining up against pyro. Kodiak Cowboy Tele Coty. You're going to hear called humor old man Buck I think that's mcpeek overextended short. Do I haven't seen that name that forever salute the SARGE was in here wicked style and then globalization again Casey, is got it cued up. Let's listen to the. Two Thousand and seven juvenile thirteen years ago today. Delete the wicked style GonNa. Tuck in behind them today they throw the lines Asian. In the red cap going up alongside of the leaders Kodiak cowboys pushed along a little in the early stages e humor goes through it. The riles humor only two and Sophie, as leaders Jimmy Trump back to firoz racing on his own gives an start another three back to show due old man doctors fall back and over extended nobody thinks he's lives to good eighteen off later they swing onto the backstretch now and wall past setting solid ice but he's nice and relaxed out here as well as later by nearly two things globalization seconds. Are Jennifer side and Kodiak Cowboy between them see Humorous v six lanes off the leaders. Now, here's tale of a party and the goal Kathy seven often leaders on a Train asked again, pick it up and go after that leader. Now on the far side wicked style, he doesn't seem to be happy today wicked styles draw back. pyro is a good twelve oaks tomatoes over extended around shore do is at the back alongside of that old man boxed. Thank come into the Cord Bowl and wall pass opens up on them now, and it's wall pass opened up to lead by five with a quarter Mile Kodiak cowboys sick and salute Assad battling now have comes pyro and Pyros come out the title of the didn't fire today it's a two horse race war passes well clear but pyros got dead these closing steadily in the center. Let's see. Can Pass find more he. Can and will pass wealthy pyro running a game on from second but wall. That champion breeders to Yitzi wins this. Past wins it. Was the second. Way Back to cody. And Taylor, the Kanji never alias actor did finish fourth any. Zito and Babul. Penta they are celebrating with their perfect two year old war past wins Breeders Cup Championship now for for four. Zero I got something to tell you. You're pretty good. What music right I mean you like music whatever. Tell me something when he tells you that race call says. And that's the champion walk. Test That's like the greatest Frank Sinatra Melody ever heard him. For playing against I didn't realize he said and the champion. Walk Paso. That's true. Because once you go over that line, you're definitely the chat especially if you're on the feed itself. Back on a couple of a couple of follow ups off of this and. Number, one gotta figure in Cornelio Velasquez. Who is under appreciated for the career that he had and people may not. Know. This. At a top of their head. Cornelio Velasquez one five Breeders Cup races in his career. He won the sprint with Cajun beat for Sativa and Joe Arcane a one, the the Utah upset pleasant home for for Shug in the distaff Kip Deville the same same day you know later in the card. For Rick Throw, and then for you and then came back and won the marathon for Butch Reed. With a fleet again five. Wins, and he came within a couple of jumps of winning a derby when closing argument like winter very late in that over five Derby, how they talk about Cornelio, and also about the wet track how concerned were you about the way? The rain kept coming down. You know everybody's could you first of all Canarias, obviously unappreciated like you said he was a workman's type job. I loved the way Reid. He'd try all the time sometimes too hard I think. I mean no disrespect. I, just think that you know he would overdo it sometimes, but he was such an aggressive right but he was really great. Just. Like you say, just a number appreciate rider. And the wet track? I I think we'll pass a speed. I was just worried about sometimes. You know you never know what foot? Those which way when they leave the gate. So that was my main concern, but once he got going. And he got on cruise control, he was. He was I. WanNa Tell You real quick. What Barbara Livingston's got shot it was unbelievable. You'll love this time. Really love this. So it was a five at Saratoga and you know where I parked my truck at as Paul there and Sarah on training track you know where it is. So so I said to Max when you break off because we couldn't see it. It was all fog. Tracking foggy. I said just go. So she went right I timed it and Barbara Livingston I looked at the clock and I said Holy Cow. It was like unbelievable. If you know I mean the classes couldn't catch him but I I, did it from her voice. Breaking off at the half-mile Pole and then I was right near the wire. So it was cool and you know he did something like human. He was he was he was easily the best here. And again, it was really sad you know he had gone to push the farage had gotten him and he had gone to I think Australia came back and he had to stop off the San Francisco whether it was hot. It got back home to Kentucky. A lot of snow and Something happens out in the field of softening just you know one. Of. Semi felt so good something and I think his first crop CB had some very wants to you and all right. First Crop I think he had. Pets at some horses in the Kentucky Derby I'm pretty sure. Now that I forgot, I forgot how premature Tremendous but but as far as bringing of a two year old. He was unbelievable. He he's got to be one of the best other than I'm Brian. Song. I hadn't the end of his career. I don't think ability wise. I. Mean I love that. So many great ones that you've find it out. But ability wanted to me I don't want to sound like. All of us you know. All. The time. Sometimes. You get drunk woody. This wasn't could've started because you'd have to have a drink on the second floor Jerry, what's his name Jerry back to I? Mean it was unbelievable those days but I can tell you this much. He had as much ability other than a bridal song cheer ability. Anywhere else I had my hands and I had some great ones maybe even better but. Ability you know what I'm talking about just town. Just. Town yes. What's A nick as part of the as part of these cup moments and we had the conversation yesterday with with Megan? Tomorrow Caring McLaughlin going to join us. We mentioned storm Song. But of the of the runner up performances, acceptable Luik tours love that jazz in the juvenile fillies and morning line who who, who, the field probably or maybe even somebody else who the field. If they had run it a few times you would have won. Many. That hurts as Louis concerns. He got stopped cold looking at stop. Awesome. Frontmen Pat Day. Long shot. Probably Cost Him And I also think morning line you could believe it again I'm not mistaken look at the one horse. Again. Enough. Incoming Jockey two, thousand, ten, it was. Joel Rosario. Havi had to do all the dirty work with thirty work with money line and just got nailed of the last. The last jumper probably. Louis was the most ample because you beat cigar and he would been you know. I don't know who the three year old champion was get won the preakness but certainly Louis would have been the year old champion I think if you had one that. So. That's probably the most painful is a lot of them, but you're right. There's a lot of I'm sure. So I think in his is quite a few more you'll look at the record but I'll tell you tough beat I. had you don't believe. I had this I wonder inboard. McLaughlin would invite. You, beat me in a chemical spat was really upset that day. Danny beat me but sung king in the Whitney. whispered. I, remember that I remember that I'm I'm nick I'm GonNa tweet that I'm going to rat went out. To look at some of the. Aloe. Nick Zito everybody's racing on twitter war past thirteen years ago today, and of course, thirty years ago today at Belmont. As, well, the the to Breeders Cup anniversaries as we enjoy breeders. Cup moments, we enjoyed nick and at Derosa today Dr Steven All day today brought to you by Lou Persson Remorse Sid Fernando Sire Watch headed refocus brought to you by hill and Dale Kelsey Danner for the first time and Jessica. Martini there are a couple of hours in today to the sale. Good. Luck of your planted everybody. Talk to you tomorrow at the races Sirius Xm. It's apple races with Steve Back on Sirius Xm radio. Are. Pennsylvania. Breeding program was, of course impacted by the pandemic. Now with our country getting back to work, we'd like to again. Our Program. The best in North America are breeder awards will remain up to fifty percents for PSI PA breads. Owner bonuses won't also stay at up to forty percents. Constricted races will again be run at all three P. H. Ranks and PA Day at the races will return I'm Brian Sanford pillow for more please visit bread dot com.

Steve. Twitter John John Doug Danner Kentucky Sapper Florida Sprint Mendelssohn motown Tony detro New York Caravaggio America Ashford Charlie Charlie O'Connor Edina Nick Zito. Marshall Van Switz- Guy Pussy Kentucky oaks Turkish Jockey Club
Part 2: Rich Migliore

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

1:52:40 hr | 11 months ago

Part 2: Rich Migliore

"Steve. And becoming interviews this is. Steve. We're back and I when I, when I went looking for for Chelsea's. Twitter address. And and I typed in danner. The funniest thing is that the first thing that popped up was a listing of of one of our shows. From late last year of all things and it was with. Doug. Doug Danner and I had forgotten this but You know most often we would get doug on. I think with the. With freethinking. Several. You know conversations. During his career, but it was I reached out to him about. The the ten year old. That made. Prom theme that was making a hundred and ninth career start. Late, last year December nineteenth it was last time doug was on. Pretty funny and then curiously. I I. Don't even know why it's okay. It's not I was GONNA say it doesn't make sense timing. Wise. But here's a picture of Tony on one of our forces on unread board king when he broke his maiden pretty funny anyway. Great to get. To get Kelsey down around I had tried her a few times and it might be that I. Had A number that wasn't That wasn't right. So maybe that's why because she certainly was fun and and seem quite Quite willing. So. She's take. She's she's nicely positioned With. With these kinds of courses that that horse that I mentioned. That monorail that. That's too bad. I mean the school nice for. Him. But, that was a debut winner. And you certainly. Out of way that you remember off the tracks she was. She was a serious or she won. The Coaching Club or Something that you win the Alabama. That they're Said said good morning. Our. Good I'm good. I'm trying. They'll complaints off the tracks when after look her up over to write her down because she I remember her it's really not that. I just a few years ago. This must be her first foal. She herself was by Caroline. So we'll. Go back and find turn. She if I'm not mistaken she started. She started with somebody. In. Florida I think and then got and then. Transferred I can't remember. Off The tracks. All right. We'll check back on that said I I'm glad we can convene because. This hatful of stallion. maneuvers since we talked last Wednesday. And then within you know within forty eight hours, there was significant story so that that started a crop Laya band will move from. New York to Kentucky Caravaggio will take up residence at Ashford and daredevil coming home and then to all off this Edina. Partnership deal with Hill. Lyndale. quite notable. Go Sapper. Coming to Dale along with Muccio Macho man and point eventually This was quite a week. Activity. Yeah. I, your thoughts, I mean considering. Considering there's so many. There's so many of the story lives you and I feature in conversation regularly including the export of stallions, shovel stallions, and then regional market stallions and really. All, these plots were were covered with the web. Yes very much talk about let's start the which start whichever one you want. To Ban, the case where you have regional horse. and got obviously simply ravishing grade one winner. Once you get, you know a great one winner in your service crop two year olds. By the right type of sire uncle Mo.. We've got NYQUIST and out work as well. Good looking horse look second uncle mount to. you know. That's when the frenzy starts In in Kentucky and You know I kind of knew that the this is taking place because they had A. Sealed bid auction been source about. About two weeks ago. And Obviously Windstar won. The prize. and. So he's coming here and going to be standing for twenty five thousand dollars. meanwhile, we had lost Geared up will who made. Turkeys Jockey Club. But the Turkey? Jockey. Club A now has approach lanes then about standing the horse for them. So you've got a very unusual situation Turkish jockey. Club. Owning the horses and standing in back in America again, capitalize on. His popularity with you know, have you seen the cooks winner in? Multiple G one winner craft winner in Switz- Guy Pussy Kentucky Oaks winner and she the devil. So that's an unusual move to come back but kind of expected as well. The rumors. Yeah. The rumors have been had. You know the right even even well before the. Even before the Kentucky Oaks, I mean the the what was going on with with skydiver had people, and then there had been some other minor winners. That were bubbling to the surface and do. We hear these rumors but a lot of times it ends up being. You know just just rumors and and it doesn't come to fruition like this. and. You know it's interesting. It's GonNa be the Turkish Jockey Club. Spanish. Because they've been. Trying to. You know there was interest in horse and they put a price on a horse and nobody. was. Willing to. Bite on that price. which was Rumored to be. Ten. million. So they decided to stand the horse. Themselves Here. So you know the thing or is here. to twenty five dollars you know they're they. They have a chance to actually. Make all the money back on what they spent on the Horse. First? Price plus up. So You know it's a it's a booth to capitalize on that and. He never know how what is future's really going to be like here. Know. You're to. I demand Wayne they'll probably take my back to. Interesting Because it's gotta be it. To Re rebooted. Boot. Horses. Stallion career. You know even with this kind of notoriety. GotTa be a little. It's got to be a little tricky. It's daunting and it's very simple These two big oysters are from his first crop. Extend to be the best. I down because they tend to get the best mares at first crop. So what are you going to have to do? Now withstand second third and fourth crump mayors. Be Done. Fantastic meaning we're going to have to you know have production from. Lower. Quality Mares over the next few years which always the big bugaboo for horses. This applies to lay Obama's well. The thing with Larry Band that he's got. It could be it could end up being terrific stallion but what he got as a backup in, he's got so many New, York breads, he can keep it black type. Yeah Yeah. You can keep his black cat going with restricted grades in New, York right? So that's you know that's always a UH. Kind, of good way keep horses name. In spotlight my Those are certainly really interesting development the third one actually I. I. I actually called John t core this weekend just to make sure whether. I, originally miss the original notification that he was. Moving. Goes Zapper that is but the other think Sunday. And the? you know John over the weekend about it. Yeah two big move for John John now has. Type Ramallah's. Trying to set up He's I've got. Curling. He's got king storing goes up terrific stallion and and. Really emerging good mare side you know boomer sire the to. So you know it's a, it's a great each for John Moving to. Off. and. Filling in some spots on the order. A Team. You got your young prospect. McCain's music starring show. Eventual stardom. He got. got. Ten therapy to broaden from Florida doubt. you know. A. Lot of younger horses still not. With, runners yet and By throwing This horse at a price point you've got midnight lute him really proven or something see. you know he's really rushing out. It's down. boxster with a mix of. Free agent. And and you know well, spotted Non Drafted Free Agent? Violence. Has Come out big frame now again that tweet. you know g one winners this year Leading. Contemporary. Big Move for Lyndale. A couple of a couple of notes within the within the D. l.. I. Mean. Obviously go sapper and we're GONNA talk to John Probably. Next week and get some of the perspective from him but I I. Feel like to me the. The sleeper in this go sappers a known quantity and and Muccio. Macho man. Seems to. Seems to still be kind of feeling his way to me. The Important Hidden Gem in here is point of entry. And and you know the the Dinah former the importance of diner former. You know to me can't be. Under under sold. The. There will be steady. Steady successes. That point of entry, and in fact, he you know he had a nice seller yesterday one here point of entry and the diner former line to me is. Is Too. There's too much. Success and there's too many positives associated with that. You know with with the top at bottom here I mean you got the Phipps. Strength and everything that comes with it I just I. I would think that point of entry Has Got You know when you look at when you look At, trades in in baseball and and you know there's that there's that throw in that Try It. For him because. You know you never know. You never know flying You know what? They what they could put up these. You've seen it with temple city at spendthrift. You you've seen. The sources shown some life. With you know already It's just a matter of. The diner formers and you know Donald Former by the way down and it started off really cheap to. Five Thousand Dollars went up all the way to one hundred and fifty dollars. you know He. Was? A. Scandalous down problem that he's running to. During his tenure what he ran into woods, you know a preponderance of dirt. And sprints which goes against his type. but to your point, you know with more turf him and. Seems like. They're more distance races now. Of Shift into. Two point eventually you know. We have you know kittens story came up during the era the. Synthetics. which he really capitalized on. lemurs. Emergence of TURF. And you know hopefully John the same thing I like about him and he's he's never afraid to take chances. and. That's why took a took always like French. As, well, you know, of course that was Mile and a quarter to a mile and a half type and. You don't. He's still waiting on him but that was expected that his is my you know Kirby better the because the crops age so He's got himself covered with you know lots of different types in like he point at this kind of zoning in. Who knows what might happen You know she's commercially. Some of these sources do get hammered. Fortunately but I'd love to see that line. A you know take up in fact. Fifty years one of the. of the Diner Palmerston studies full. verners yet. But, in Canada that's Danish down form. So. You know there's still you know And he studied Canada where the environment really fit with terminal weather. So you know that's that's let's say. It's another son that you know probably probably the last. give it a shot. yesterday hip sixty, hundred and sixty, thousand, and just looking. To See. Let me. Let me see how many. How many There's another one too. There's another four. Another four to sally yet or actually. Take that back. Oh no because I type in point of and. In the search bar and It gives you gave you a few other. Names that have to be. Yeah. That had. Had the same letters. It's pretty funny but there's one to There's there's just two more that are going to sell yet but I'm a fan and I'm interested and you know John John is obviously not. He's not shy about the you know the turf Potential because. He's got Flintshire and Get. Well, you know so. He knows what to do with with those types. You know we should the one we skipped over. As part of this conversation Caravaggio said, and here's a scat daddy son that It was making noise the the babies that had made their way you know to these shores and. I. It did seem like there was a buzz and sure enough Here's Ashford coolmore trying to capitalize on it and I can. A bringing. SCAT. Daddy. Home. And They're such a sophisticated. Organization knowing how to maximize stallion knowing. That, you know first cropper. yearlings this year. So be entering his fourth year Stud you are up. So why not try to? Repackage and bring him here. So he's kind of new here even though it's address courtship nuts done. They've done. You know the Broadway. back that have started over there. I and. And Continued with them here, giant's Causeway Declaration of war. you know. It's it's it's constantly. Trying to repackage something during these tough years at Stud. So What would have been his worst? Near. Europe which is fourteen. They can bring him here and You know rejuvenate market here they've seen how terrifically popular. The other t scat daddy have been. That's Mendelssohn. And justify both of whom got over two hundred, fifty mares in their first year at Stud. So now, What they do is they introduce another scat daddy here but one really. Built almost the American marketplace's. Especially Sprint they're. Out of a holy bull man. Plays here the Cook Great Good Looking Horse and now you got another scat daddy for them here you know. It can take overflow marriage and Mares zone right. And because he's kind of New Year. That stigma that fourth year kind of. Wayne. BITS AGAIN And so. It it's just brilliant plan all around. And Know I think he's GonNa end up being soon. We probably well. Now and just just pulling up their their page. And There is already on the didn't take long for him to make to make the website and. Air Force Blue American Pharaoh. Caravaggio. Classic Empire Competitive Edge Cupid Eco town. My will be there. For them to yes. Yes. Eco Town. When he I didn't Miss I know I'm not sure if he's know Nashville we'll know tomorrow but I know Nashville was entered. In the sprint for the Asmussen Barn. Eco Town I forgot to I forgot the inquire about catoon if he was running justified looking at lucky maximum-security Mendelssohn motown who is already seemingly Getting. Some Buzz Munnings Joke Tale, the cat and uncle Mo So it's a pretty maximum security of course, is headed there too. Yeah maximum security is that are there? And the big mover they're. Really big, price. In terms of going up this year. Where uncle bolt at the Ashford going to one, seventy, five and intimacy of going to take twenty five. At Spencer but you know the some of the big guns. Curling of course held steady at one, seventy five but you've had. warfront dropping to one fifty. Happened at. Twenty. Fifty medallion Diarra one fifty. the some that the big guns dropping. At the top of the market And of course it. Seems like a lot of horses coming to study as well. So. It's going to be really. Interesting he you know the the demand that This year bring contest twenty one you know with with all the economic woes and Whatnot. Keeneland September down twenty percent average The tell will be what the demand is for. Broodmares. At keeneland. particularly. In. Has You know boutiques now? To. Really Nice. Top poisons but. That kind of look Really. Give us a sense of You know what the demand situation will be. For some of these horses next year, keep in mind Close of two, thousand and twenty. those are widely down the offered at keeneland November dog the first. Colts. They'll that will be sold that we'll have this mark on them, which is that day when they go to stunned. Will be limited to one, hundred, forty mayors. All these other words were seen going to start right now. You know they can still try to maximize many mares they can get to. The, all you had. That have been appearing GDN where you know farms are actually. Bragging about how many marriage? Stallions covered audible to eighteen. Could you saw one today Would it. Out. Work Three hundred nineteen folds or something like that. The ground so you know The number of the number of married He's going to play an important role eventually in the price of. Is What people could pay for founding prospect now. Knowing that they can breathe many as they can get to it versus what you're going to have to pay for potential stallion prospects in the future knowing that they're locked in hundred forty. Certainly you know it's something to keep an eye on. Well. Regarding regarding Caravaggio at at Ashford and everything going on there and. Charlie Charlie O'Connor will will help you and At for those, you know even though there's not going to be that many people going toward Lexington Next week. We after for raiders, got I'm going to put a plug in for for Charlie's. Bourbon. Has that. Amazon Bourbon. Bar. Chart me for that was the breeder curve? Is You? I. Didn't know. Yeah. This is a of love yeah. that. I didn't realize that. Charlie's terrific and visit the ends in Bourbon Bar, which is a hidden gem. Korea INVER sales. GETS A. When you got childhood finds than his. You know it's it's. Obviously, the public spot anyone go. To real small bar beautifully appointed, you know with all the Bourbon trail. Fan When Whatnot but what's really interesting? When say you know anyone that your listeners anybody who goes in? What would you get a chance to do? Once you do go and he? You. Know you're going to meet people like Charlie you gotta be you know people like Cool more. Captain. Paul Shanahan you know all The principles of the Komo Organization. You know you could turn around and bump into Batman ended up. Chatting with them too. So it's It's it's it's an interesting spot. You. Could end up. You could end up with the season you. If if you play your cards right if You spend enough they should. That's what they should do. They should have they should have a loyalty program where. If you. If you if you buy, I don't know if you have one hundred. One hundred tipples you. Get half off of a season. I love it. I'm glad I brought it up I. I've been meaning to do that and because we got that we've got. Our our our church Philly that you. Recommend. Bread to motown and. Right. The right sire lines the I mean, that's the ascending sire. You know who? WHO's to say motown doesn't become another. NYQUIST. Store or allow Dan you know one out work. They I can see you don't know if you've noticed on the they've been advertising to motown's been. Seems to be catching a wave and he's been featured the with Tony detro-. Doing some voice overs. On the America's Day at the races shows. So they're they're committed to him. Docomo's are just incredibly popular right now because so rare for Wednesday down. On Komo who had a massive year to go to one seventy five to also had three sons. Like that you know unofficial scrap list You know quite. Quite a scene and one of the Nyquist you know he's got to grade one winners are ready. So That's phenomenal feat. It's interesting and and you know. That's what has made. We discussed it last week. That's what you know that. Kind of of story line and that over rap. That's what has made this Mcclain's music emergence So notable you know that. Younger Sire even than Than Mukomo and he's GonNa. Have you know? Already two sons that and a third son that are going to end up staying. It's crazy i. mean it it it. That you know that that the I opener. So It it. It's been. It's been a fascinating. I mean aside from the sales stuff. Everything that's been going on is just been fascinating with with you know with. The. These three four. Sets of. Of Stallion. Changes and relocations etc.. I. Said I. It's hard. It's Under the conditions. That we're. Dealing with. It's hard not to take the take this kind of thing as. As encouraging I, mean. The farms aren't they're not gonNA make these kinds of commitments. You know are continuing to be confident about about things. Yeah I mean you know it's Your. Team failed their you know. They'd be down a little. Or against team, they were down twenty percent but you know people are still invested in this game and The people divide flips before they survived the great. Recession you know You're always GONNA have. Big Economic. Downturns. And people survive things might get reshuffled the bit and. You know What not but so far The way the the market is You know people were still breathing Morse's Yup. You know and and I think also people. When you're in this when you're in this business On that side. E You, you know you look to the horizon. Attracted tracked. It's not you know you can't be you can't be tunnel visioned. You know you're you're. Looking You know down the road and and you you that that that part is really true because I can't point we have a client that Actually looking to win the remember shale to increase at nine. because. Potentially going to be a buyer's market. So, Y, you may have some people that you know can't hold on. So you've got new right with other people that are in a position to say you know what this the time to expand. and. That's you know those are those are also Factors that should be you know look that because you never know Yacky what's going to happen but. anecdotally, I can tell you that I know several people that are actually bullish on buying because of. A perceived value. We talked about that in in. Two Thousand and an eight the yeah. I mean the fact that that this you know that. I don't want to call them opportunists I. You know people people that that understand the cycles You know, saw it as a chance to go to build their operation and and this has gone on. This is not a new phenomenon obviously This is this has been true for generations at that you know the The been flow and. You know we also had. We also had Incursions from various international. Entities whether it was the Japanese point and and. British interests and you know that that. This has been going on forever and. You GotTa have the wherewithal? I, mean, obviously, the the people who are. Victims in this and and said you and I. You and I very frequently. Reference The overall. Societal themes. And it's very true here to the most vulnerable and the. Those that I don't want to call them hobbyists per se but you know the smallish. Backyard breeders and those that you know have a handful of of mayors and and you know. It's not maybe not their full time business or you know it augment. Income or how can however those people? They can suffer I mean if they're not if you're not capitalized and and you don't have the wherewithal to withstand, you know these, you know these vagaries. Those are the people that are going to are going to suffer or or are going to leave the business. But that doesn't mean that they're mayors aren't going to be absorbed into you know other operations. And That's a really good point also inept flow that. You had in the eighties of very high participation level. Crops you know with Iraq decade it's basically been between eighteen and twenty thousand folks per year You know dismay dropping Further. But what? I've seen. Is that as A those people you just referenced. Leave. and this is another societal analogy. The people whip the capitol. Have increased their stake in the game. So essentially what you have. are, people at the year people with the means controlling a greater portion of the Pie. whereas. Before you know you may have had had. You know. More. Individual involvement. You know it's it's sort of the mom and pop bookstore. appeared the chain comes in. And so you do have. A greater. Number of. capitalized entities. That are participating in the game. We we've talked about this with even with erling buying. You know you have partnerships now. Of many big players on the same more. So. It's it's that type of thing that's happened. You. Got More people at the top owning more of the Pie. and that's been the case over the decade where it's the stabilized say focuses between eighteen and twenty or whatever it is. But the composition of ownership. Owning that group is a smaller number then you know prior kinds. it's better for the game obviously if you can have work participation but again. It's just the trend of consolidation that we've seen throughout society. RACING RACING IS A. Racing reflection or microcosm of we're at. Society there's there's there's not too much. Too Much We. Can't connect. From from one to the other said, it's yeah. Avoid I'll I'll avoid any other suggests or? Possibly you know guys. I like you that are participating. That that that's a great part of the game. Like you. GotTa. Mayor. To motown. you know. Hopefully you know. Hopefully we get more people you know perhaps perhaps. The the buying opportunities roar encourage even smart guy come into it. Attractive options right now well, and and there's There's a conversation to be had and frankly our our. listenership. Is As You know aside from the participants that are already participating. you know the stakeholders. There's To me. The next that next wave if it is going to if it is gonNA come. Should come from the series horse players. and. There's real potential here because. The there's A. There's already I mean look at in fact, I'll go back I brought up Marshal Graham and Klay Sanders earlier with ten strike and you know they started as. A claiming outfit and you know. Racing for fun and you know like anybody you, you know you you keep trying to upgrade your approach and and your stock. Then, you know you start buying young horses. Then you keep a few you know mayors that you can't bear to part with because they campaigned successfully for you as as a stable and next thing you know you're breathing and then you're then you're creating own breads that the the next generation well that. That same potential is out there for you know countless. Serious horse players who could easily you know if they mentally made a commitment to peel off, I don't know fifteen percent of their of their bankroll you know. Every so often. Every time. There's a nice hit in appeal off a chunk and and start a fund and the same way that some of you are putting together a pick five consortium and playing as a group do the same thing and and. Try Try. This I mean look at Billy Billy. Kacha. As with with little red feather saint thing they you know now they've got not only they breeding, but they've got pinned book operation that they've created. So there I met to I've seen a lot of guys. You know they have had higher. I've seen that they've done stuff like that. I, mean even. Twitter guys like T T P and it. These guys are gamblers, but they also tweeted about Horses Day Roan. And have experienced in you know Racing so and I saw this other guy. Then Yada John said he just bought into a year. You know it all. If you have that desire to do it Then then you know some of these guys doing and you're you're against Marshall Van. I mean they've had some great success. And with very sharp guy. You know it all depends on the inclination is there and they're in a situation obviously financially that can do it but usually what happens is And you're the continue your train of thought people actually who do it when the market comes down more words becomes more affordable. So. It'd be interesting to see you now. Again as market does come down whether it matter of fact, when you're our listeners here of Nolan tweeted the are painted she was going to look for. A mirror something in the keeneland November sale. Nice. You know. So you see how you know Sometimes Times you know people you know do take those chances when when. When you the market as being a good buying opportunity I mean that's really how everything works but. To to look to to. Look for instance at at. Just one that comes to mind with with the ten strike Is that thought, Matrix, you know who's now a seven year old gelding has made six, hundred, sixty, seven, thousand dollars. and. Was Bread is a Freud gelding out of on dot dot, which was a mayor that they campaigned and I think Marshall Marshall Bread yeah trucks than staples. That was marshals. It a sort of personal stable to begin with and You know a horse one more slide dot matrix whether you sell it for Nice money or or if you campaign it. Cleans up a lot of miscues. In other areas and and things that don't go right. I will tell people that. There's heartache that can come with this. Don't don't think that this is you know. This is any less. Yeah. Any less frustrating than being an owner because it's not I it's maybe more frustrating because in some cases you wait and you wait and you wait and you may end up, you know with nothing whether you were going to sell or you know the horse gets hurt. In, training you're going to sell a two year old in training or you're in a campaign. yearling that. You know just. The. Best thing there there is there is the flip side of this and I have to I want to caution people, Aaron you Goethe who is as savvy is anybody that's involved in in the game. Aaron? Errands. Got The greatest line, of course, strikes Of family and Aaron says I believe in God I just don't want him picking out my bloodstock. Which is why he doesn't read. and. I love that line because it's like. It doesn't matter how fancy you you can. You don't necessarily know you're not necessarily going to get but it you know and then we've lost you know we've lost babies three babies in that you know. That full sleep During comes in I. Hope you're. Very very tough. So Zip, this was fabulous I. I WanNa get Dr All day in but we covered a ton between ellendale exciting partnership with Edina we'll hear from John Secure more about that and then daredevil lay abandoned and Caravaggio so. We'll talk next week then well, you gotTa, you gotta put your pedigree work to the you know you got you got fourteen breeders, Cup races. So this is this is your time to shine next week. You know boy. And sydell also shine helping you pick out does. Your broodmare band five, one, zero, four, nine, eleven eleven work thoroughbred consultants. and. Their expertise second to. None. And I appreciate it sit Fernando everybody and We'll stay right here because we're GonNa talk to Dr. all day and I. You know whatever whatever we have rip from today's. Top News Dr all days expertise, and incredibly helpful. This. Particular. Case I want him to explain. The use of Anti inflammatories and. The. The AH. Method zone. which is a legal. Therapeutic Med. But it doesn't. Just saying that doesn't. Answer all the questions just Oh, it's overreach. That's That's a simplistic. View of things. So. Casey. Reaching for. For Steve and he'll tell you what you need to know. Ed Rose is GONNA join us to a little bit. And we'll start to We'll start to. Talk about the approach I, want I want to spend time before the fields are completely assembled. The want to spend some time talking about you know organizing yourself and how to Bet Breeders Cup, Dr Steven alday joins us. Horse. Health. Today brought to you by Luba and Reborn Steve Good Morning. Steve. We reach as we've reached out to you so many times in the past. Let you. Pine. This Beta method zone. Therapeutic and non how it's. You how it's Signal I can't hear what you're saying. All right. There's some. There's some reverberations near to Casey wanted you. Want to. Get. Steve Back Yeah give him another call. That was weird. I could I could hear myself. So, we'll get I could tell something was. Steve's. Phone. If there's one. If there's one regular over the years. And a lot of times you know he's out, you know he might be in a barn he might be in a field. So. There are times when I. When I. Can understand that expect but there does seem that. When we have audio. Issues a lot of times it's sits with him. Let's try to get maybe. Stave. One second. Got Him back in the we lost him again. It must be must he you know he's Gotten No He's in. What we're seeing SISSONVILLE. Simpson I think. When if he's out if he's at his place In the countryside. But he could be anywhere. You'd never know. That's Calling Dr, all day paging Dr Alda. Wait. There's no reason to look repeat. Second time and then a third time. To him actually while we while we wait am I could give you the. The. Result yesterday from. From. Finger Lakes and you know even though even though thin white Duke. started poorly. I, thought he was vulnerable anyway but they had a terrible start. He walked out of the gate and then came running late but still got beat by half a dozen blue gator for the why coughs and Mike Maker. For to I think we'll try again save there. Yeah. A. Little better. But you still pretty muffled. Son of a gun. All right. I'll just hand it off to you. Talk About A product, like Beta, medicine. And using. Therapeutic. Anti inflammatories. Two, weeks, out. The mechanics of of what? The Vet and the trainer deals with in a case like we're seeing with Geen. Well. You know I mean. Apparently, they followed the the regulations you know according to you know. What's has been released and You know obviously they they. This system for Kentucky for New York around places and The Problem Steve is that you know when you when you see these new situations like this, you know you're GonNa you're GONNA have. You'RE GONNA have. You know the they will come up with these minute amounts of Car. Basically didn't have lots you say, White. Horse is an individual and for whatever reason discord on. Which obviously you know provides any. He properties enjoins. It's very comedies commonly used in La. Chicken used quite bakery and It just this case early it's. It has. Cheated metabolize the way. They expected or whatever. So you know I mean unfortunately it's like it's still beyond the threshold listen or to call. That test the problem and and obviously it's the IRA now and obviously you know this is all maybe a little premature to cause remember now the. Was Comeback At. So Right Sometimes, he since y'all for not the point because it's gotta come back from every sample in order to be ORDER TO BE CONSIDERED A. Test so far online is. Still talking you know in our hats here but actually We'll wait and see just what comes up to now wise occurring probably because it's have an island out. Quite right. So. Well Steve will tell. Explain. Explain. The diagnostic part of this and explain why. A trainer and a vet. Wanted using anthea Flam a Tory letelier illegal med, what you're dealing with in the horse and what the treatment represents and and why you know if you're on a schedule to try to get to a a race, you know a race is weeks away explain how that decision is made and what the trainer is dealing with in that case and what the vet is trying to help with. Actually occurred here is you know obviously they detected either in deficit or something that they felt like created like an cemetry a and or you know she showed maybe some fusion would or pressuring joint whatever and they. Evaluated the situation of physical physical exam maybe an order or. Go Away to graphically and determine that they were going to go ahead and institute into our ticket injection Most likely Heireann. Gas It, and according to steroid in combination, and this is why this is done and this is why it showed up but we're talking about two weeks out because the rules Paul Kane used to be. People used horses a awake out sometimes. Certain jurisdictions a couple of days out now, it's been backed up to fourteen days to the level of withdrawal and or the entrusts hold that would. Do Passable. We'd get through a post race examination of both serum or urine and essentially. It's it's it's it's just goes with the with the Times I mean, you know these horses are trained hard. Sometimes, they require maintenance show to keep these joints comfortable and keep them from overload another airs, and when you could potentially create breakdown or injury or permanent deficit. If you don't address it, it may be not necessary this joint but maybe you know compensatory that she was coming off getting away from this problem. So this is why do the join Jackson's essential and you know the case think that virtual for decades ten things that she came up with twenty seven according to the. Information I was given an farmland Muzak. Ritual. They have to call them. Zero tolerance on anything goes over the threshold so. This is done this is why it's detected. It just seems like it's a fairly new system disqualify that and so therefore just a situation where we really need to look. You know the the the system is a little out of kilter or maybe they're the threshold there declaring is not. Proper for you know the medication that they're looking at or testing or Maybe. The Guy got a little too much in. It's hard to say but more than likely that would be changed my problems is. Different kind of house. From the standpoint of me racing big races, the oaks is is major fixture on any three year old fillies. Deaths and you know you know you don't push the envelope on waste that or so you know I it's obviously a misunderstanding indoor a, and then there's no doubt in my mind was not pension. So Salaam line is that you know it's gotta get down fixed and figured out what's the best way to go forward with this situation from their on. Didn't Steve the. What other options are out there and? This is a product Beta method zone that is. That that does have a tendency to linger and so what what what options do you have I mean if you're if you're just trying to if you're just trying to kind of. Placate some some inflammation. What else can you do? You can go with any inflammatory route more predictable It basically just covers symptoms as necessary picture of the problem itself. So that's one of the drawbacks of it, but it's safe and it's it's a lot more predictable and you know you've got a lot more number of cases that have actually discovered. You know the the The the process. So you're less likely to have an over over at your pets comeback with a problem. This you go with other medications adequacy on the go with a number you know you go on and on about what could be done, but the bottom line is yeah that's not what was elected here was elected to injector, and that's why they've got the problem to deal with curve on a different corker steroid gone with try and similar on. A. Night, which is bete-noire or catalog and this particular. Is a lot more predictable and in independent was a lot more consistently. So you know his own I, mean I'm not going to tell another guy practice, but it's got their way and I've got mine too obviously. But in this particular case it just you know I obviously it's coming back because the shock it's going to cost them a fair amount of purse money indoor. In all the other things that go on with that but you know Bu-. The. Stills premature. Let's just wait and see how the free sample comes back. It comes back. You know at the threshold below then you know then the. Formula, well and I and the specifics. This specific case is just I thought a good opportunity for you to explain. What the outfits this or any other outfit is dealing with you know trying to trying to treat issues. You know with the the legal meds and I'm glad that that unprompted you brought up something that I said early in the show and I. Hated your visit which is. Why we we've pushed the use of any therapeutics, we've pushed them further and further away from race day and. You brought up a great point that you know, forty eight hours than seventy two, then seven days now fourteen days, and so it's you know you're you're the methodology of of dealing with. With a with a horse and and getting them to A. Tour an assignment. Keeps changing, but and evolving and everybody has to deal with that. I mean that's just that's part of. That's part of. Playing by the rules and? You know. That that element though the public should appreciate you know that there's less and less. There's less and less going into chuck. Simon. Said this yesterday there's less and less actually going into the ors. That's Most definitely I mean, you know you look you're getting a pure product. You know you're getting a true expression in a good thing from the standpoint that you know you're you're probably getting better expression to the actual genetics and it probably helps set the breeding game a long run probably. The better horses with the better pedigrees are probably winning better. Race is not a good thing because that way you can perpetuate the best. Gone To. I appreciate it. Steve I. Wanted I wanted to slip this today and Because people. We've talked about so many different times over the years. And the public doesn't. It doesn't seem that they're interested in in understanding the difference between therapeutic meds and. Medications that. You know are are specifically. Looking to. A evade detection and essentially I mean A. Conscious efforts that she versus. You know the the threshold issues and And the overages involved in therapeutic meds I it. It's always worth a discussion. Yes, most definitely because they'll mainly see, but you said, you know I officer moving target that's problematic for the end user, and the second thing is, is that you know you you the more cases you have the more number you have in buying the better statistical amounts. She should have a what you mean. You know look at is or how far you need to look at what medications need to look at for the withdrawal period. You're saying you don't get. You don't have these kind of post race problems since we. Dr Steven All Day horse help today brought to you by Lewiston and reborn visit Lou verson Elliott B. R. I S. Y. N. Dot Com and the all day dot com where. And and singer help you with Your Sport Horse Your Pleasure Horse you're. Whatever it might be Steve Always. Appreciate it. Thank you buddy. You got. Dr Steven All day and Steve's on twitter four legs dock. tweets little bit. I think the LEWISTON team tweets more than than Steve, once in a while. Once in a while he'll. He'll send up a flare. Or shot across the bow. So that we're going to stay here because we got much to do. We got fifty minutes and Ed to rose is going to join us and then Nick Zito. zito appearance. Always Great. We're to talk to nick because it's the thirteenth anniversary thirteen years ago today. War Pass in the juvenile and I think we're good at the I think for the. Nick what's to bring up the thirty six read too and? I don't blame him thirty six red thirty years ago today. For his try in the classic where he was third behind unbridled. So let let nick talk he's had. You know he's had his share of. He's had to think he's got to. To Breeders Cup wins. Storm. Song. She won she won A. Juvenile fillies for Nick. But he's had you know he's he's had a few dozen tries and has had a lot of board hits at and tomorrow, Kirin? McLaughlin. Will be a lot of fun because Kirin a Garin also had a ton. Over the years he had a I got a I. Think I wrote it down somewhere. He had in in vizor obviously low dude and DEMARCO's I mentioned earlier but he had I bet you another six or seven near misses. A Knicks add. Share as well. Nick two wins, four seconds and five thirds in the cop tough to win and Ed Rosa is. Going to. Help discuss. How you win how you approach the Breeders Cup Ed Good Morning. Good Morning. Coming on A. Really is, and this is a good time as we wait for tomorrow's pre-entry announcement, and then we can start to at least for you know the the fields that will not be. You know. Undefined the they'll be a few races where they'll be cross entries and you know we'll have to get some feel on the decisions. The leans but it's a good opportunity to just think about. The manner in which you approach the cop and I I do this every year the week out it's always. Fun To survey people talk about your general approach maybe how it's evolved over the years as the event has expanded the others. There's more you know in race choices there's more others today day there's multi-race. There's so many different ways to approach it talk a little bit about your. Your Breeders, Cup vetting philosophies. I think Somewhat. cliche about another day at the races. But from a handicap in perspective especially knowing you're getting two full days great ray things top to bottom both days you know I do think it's OK where my strongest opinions were my weakest opinions and how do I could you know? Strap the most value out of the former and avoid the mind of the ladder, and for me just thinking back as a as a young player I think one of my my bigger mistakes back when. I was okay. I, you know have X. Tibet and Aminu bad. You know this much on each race or this much on each pick three and obviously that's not an appropriate use of your bankroll not all opinions of the same and You know we have the luxury. Of. The Breeders Cup of being able to look at these races you know really for for weeks ahead of time and we've got the contender PP's out for a while now but the pre entries help us. Focus a little clear, and then the final PP's next week fully into focus where we wanNA take our stand. But for me, that's what you know again, any day at the races I think you want to make sure you know strong opinions our but especially, Breeders Cup where we have it's apparent mutual gain and a lot of opinions out there listening to your show obviously social media reading brisk net reading the competition it's important I. Think to now where people are gravitating and if you have an opinion that's against that, that's usually a good opportunity. So eagerly awaiting my first thought of man everyone thinks this is great I don't like that one at all that might be an opportunity or vice versa You know you're on a horse that people tell you can't win I'm surprised that seems like by my standard still flying under the radar and you know. If he is likely winner of that race of course not but it fifteen or twenty to one. You know maybe that's the horse you can. You can do a whole whole day's wages around trying to get in the number. So those are the things I'm thinking about. And there's a few. There's a few things to riff off of that and a lot of it It gets into the you know. The bankroll management you know especially, if you know, you know you are going to have a limited bankroll and limited limited for some people might be you know twenty, five hundred and some others might be two, hundred fifty and for others literally might be you know seventy five to one hundred dollars for the two days and and they have to be. Very austere but you you WanNa make it count and so applying your leverage to your. Specific situation is a big part of this and. There's you know there's any number of. Of of advisable. I would say mental approaches and one of the things I always talk about is that you know. It's two days and really the Saturday being the key. It's only gonNA take one hit It's only gonNA take. You. Know One. Opinion successfully executed to make the weekend. And I and if it if it happens to come in the classic I, bring this up. All the time we were walking out. Tina was with me. In fact, we were walking out for the classic and I'd had. Keratin Day. and. It just happened that. I made a decision with like literally seven minutes, the Post that I was going to. Key. Off Of Fort Larne it. I love the way Fort Leonard looked going to the you going on the track and I ended up. Hitting the try and making the whole weekend There I think the keeneland going back to the keeneland. The first for. Day Hit A. Pick four on Friday for thirty six hundred and you know in and then Kinda coasted and gave some back and did not have much of a Saturday it. It doesn't matter where you do it it it just You. You can be patient and and hit your spot. And it's going to make the weekend You can't. You know you can't. Get down on yourself if you don't hit your first three bets of the of the two days. That's right. Yeah. I would encourage people in. Some ways to supplies to any day of racing as well. But you know with the Breeders Cup and some confidence in the big pools and and things aren't going to get zapped in the final minute You know the the wind pool definitely comes into play for me on the bigger a and that you know to bring up computer players as Boogie man I'm cognizant that the odds you see it two or three minutes to post on a Tuesday at Mahoning or likely not going to be the final odds when they spring the latch there even at at Churchill or IRA, but I'm breeders, Cup. Day I. Think you know with all the chatter and you get a sense of how the markets reacting and we'll react you know there are some opportunities where you can feel confident. You're going to get the price you want on a horseshoe like and don't don't squander those opportunities with lesser opinions and sometimes there's ways to make your strong opinion on a horse who can win work and exotic wagering and other times. Maybe those are the races around it that you've identified as you're not is comfortable with and don't have a strong opinion and you know hundred win at ten to one thousand dollars. You can spend that same hundred on a pick three that either pay nothing or pays less than that. So. Always be mindful especially with your singles of of what you would be guaranteed to get the win pool if you hit. I'd also throw in one of my favorite suggestions that and you know invariably I hear from people you know after. Copper after triple crown. Weekends. I if if you are. Let's say you're a pick four player pick five player in the most of the year. And particularly if you've got. Fairly limited budget and you can't spend. Freely I've suggested for years especially as the with the with the denominations. Lowering, the fifty cents rise in the vison threes. If you. are a pick four player. Cutback one you know one race and play pick threes if you're a a pick three player. You may want to. Cut back and play doubles. Because the you know the exponential risk and and grant granted the exponential reward of hitting the bats the bigger. Speak for themselves but. The payoffs are are so. Typically. Inflated Breeders Cup that you can. Heal offset that you. You don't you don't have to not every single bet has to be. A Grand Slam walk off home? Run. And Decreasing the level of difficulty by dialing back. One Layer. If. You're if you're a super player back it up tries if you're try player backed up to exact us I mean I. I have made that suggestion repeatedly over the years at. I you know myself. I try to I try to be conscious especially if you're you're feeling like you don't have. You know you don't. You don't have as good a feel in some of the legs and particularly if you think there's you know five six wind candidates in a spot and you know as opposed to as opposed to Monday through Sunday. It, there's going to be racist. You'RE GONNA look at and say I mean there's six or seven horses that can legitimately win and so what does that do to your multi-race approach? And I think to even if you. Are. Typically a pick four, pick five player as I am I mean I you know I'm guilty anyone that thought chasing the big payoff and you know the the ego boost is well I. had it definitely more in play with the pick five, pick three but. You know as you're looking through a sequence, you may find man this seems really logical. What am I adding in terms of using the favorite in the fourth leg of a pick four verses? Playing the pick three maybe for a dollar instead of fifty cents. Or just thinking of those options is while like, okay. Here's my pick five. Here's what it's GonNa cost I'm you know maybe you're comfortable that you love the ticket fine. But there are times when I'm looking I'm like man I have the checking and and third choice and three hundred, the five legs and you know is is the pick three the better opportunity to you know really make score it's not as sexy to do that per se but I think a lot of times we. We cost ourselves. equity by you know playing extra legs where that's not where strongest opinions are. The. It's obviously early to start. Digging in and and and. Having a feel for who you're a you may lean on. But certainly, if we use last year for instance as as an example I mean there there were no shortage of players that absolutely. Just figured that that bricks and mortar couldn't lose and the that was there. You know that was their late Saturday single and. You got a little Lucky v, the that that could have gotten. A God, no I I can't even imagine the numbers. You know how they they would've is sort. If United Hangs on but you know that that is the example that you you for. You know that kind of opinion I I talked about it. It's thirteen years ago today that we had the MONMOUTH. Breeders Cup and for a midnight lewd was a horse, both years Groupie doll a horse, both years that I I just I didn't think would lose. And that's where you make your stand and then you feather out from there. I think it's been awhile. I can't think the last time I really felt Shraga Sister Charlie two years ago But yeah, I mean you're you have a few of those and and they don't always come in obviously but I. Think my strongest opinion last year Steve Actually was I was against midnight zoo and made the most of Blue Prize be in my top pick and unfortunately I did have a pick for going united be no Rosa so I've I've thought a few times about what that may come back. Racing I've been on the other side of it too. So When it comes out in the Washer ahead. Yeah, and I think that's a good point to You know about flu prize she wasn't necessarily my most likely winner on the day. I would say probably bricks and mortar who I I did have singled on a fair share of tickets but because blue prize one was able to to stretch a little bit in the turf. But sometimes I think it can be valuable to have that strong opinion of of what favorite is GonNa be and I know for some if they're really. Going to believe in the numbers that might be princess nor and Friday in the juvenile fillies you know monoploy girl could be one people are against. They might have a strong opinion with skydiver. She chooses go in the dispatch fast you know so to me that strong opinion doesn't always have to be at most likely winner and I would actually discourage people if you have the same most likely winners everyone else fine. But this probably less value in that unless you have A. Another opinion to go with it against the favorite So hopefully, we'll find some vulnerable favorites too because to me that's just as important as finding the the ones you like to win. that. That's well that's Point well taken. And the the vulnerable favorite side of it to me feels more like a like a an in-race. Opportunity. Because even even a potential vulnerable favorite is probably GONNA make their way onto at least a backup ticket right when it comes to the Maltese. Yes, especially, if you like price where I mean that's something you know that's where I think the ABC method comes in handy is is not necessarily just you know putting you know what? I would say the grid or Chris would say ABC's not just always happening that and saying, okay I can have you know three as gonNa be Etcetera Etcetera I think to me about okay. Where are the vulnerable favor satellites but? Would I really WANNA get beat by a two to one if by my standard classic of course not. But am I willing to get beat by the two to one if his law runs off the screen maybe So those to me are the second level decisions that you know. An exotic player needs to consider. 'cause you know it's definitely no fun putting. Fifty dollars into a sequence of chalks out So I'm always looking to play those kinds of tickets, but it's the same time if I think. Yeah the CAN win. It's two one value in the wind pool maybe not but it's probably value if you hook it up with a separator horse like by my standards might be. Still and Just looking I as we're talking I pulled up I pulled up year. and. 'cause I I. Yeah I I had made bricks and mortar. Thought I had. Yeah I had singled bricks and mortar. In the In, the pick for the pick five. and. And actually hit. A pick four actually hit on a backup ticket. with Blue Prizes the sea. And I mean you know look at it last year I mean the the tough horse the horse was blue prize who you nailed because it went the pick five went Matali Blue Prize bricks and mortar Vino Rosso. Yeah, prize was the. Biggest price there. Everybody else is going to be on your ticket I mean Matali obviously I mean the right and and. Certainly. Odi. Bricks and mortar. Rosa the pick four paid four forty. And I forget what the pick five paid. but. That's another I also recommend an anti certainly. Got Me doing this three weeks ago. When we started talking about the the keeneland. Breeders Cup at and. Get it going back and looking at. Uh. Go back and look. At the charts and Dig through. Y- at this point this is what Breeders Cup thirty. Eight. Thirty seven, thirty, seven to thirty, eight dance, and then range and There's there's certain themes I mean including including some that are inexplicable like the juvenile turf races how how? The euro invaders. Win The the boys race and they can't win the girls race. It's it's the craziest thing I. IT makes no sense. That is bizarre but. Interesting yeah it it's you know there's certain things that you know that the cup is has managed to you know at this point as managed to you know certain themes that Become you know become pretty regular but I I would think you know because of. Because of the late nature I mean obviously, we're worried about the way the turf is GonNa play. And you know how much more weather we're going to get between now and next week but. You know. Having a feel for what went on Keeneland four years ago. Is probably going to you know probably serves you pretty well. in terms of shorter term sample and I'm I'm inclined to think. Maybe more anomaly because. Six and a half and seven for a long. This was not an issue but the rail was over thirty nine going six for long fifteen months in October. The rail was over thirty nine. Oh. That's right. That's right. That's right. Fix furlongs. I I do have one Breeders Cup at I've already placed a friend in Canada got me down. Tell me. I have a wind parlay sister traveling by my standards three, hundred, thirty, seven to one. Way listed where do where? What. How is that? How is that place? one candidate they they have access to I. Don't know if this was caddy power what. But one of. The They're allowed to use the you know the European books. Okay. So just you know the beauty at twitter at a buddy up there I know likes to get down on some futures and I just nice. Noticed that odds checker prices I was comfortable with and. Instead of Beckenham individually I figure after ten bucks I can. Cover my day if they both went. Very cool. I. Like. Well, we're going to do more of this as we get closer of course and Heddon, they'll get Ed James and. The. The full, the full frontal assault next week. yeah. I I. Right? Yes. It's funny. I my inclination I I've been set. And I I was wavering a few weeks ago and then I sort of made a mental commitment and then over the last twenty, four hours I've I've suddenly. Suddenly gotten a little. IFFY. Again. But I I expect so. The team has got to get rid of me for. It's The Results Tuesday have any sway on your decision. No not not You know not not. Not unless know somebody's planning overturning my car an setting it on fire. That's more likely if you K-. Wins the game then. That's just couches. I thought. Well. We'll see I I. MY I got I'm book actually I paid for paid for a room so I'm I'm. kind of locked in but Committed as they say. Good job. Couple of quick hits about the weekend and an opening day Sunday. Yeah. It was actually a good day hopefully exercising some demons from a great. September. meet at Churchill. But I, I like Kenny's horse who ran off the screen camp hope attend to one. So that that was a good one to have I'm not sure what the deal is with coach you know the the owner and the winner circle. After the race Ricky Byrd said, they thought about abuse sorts for a tag and I know after the debut which themed decent you know they were still like we're not sure that race was much meant she ran off the screen again and then she wins a stakes race You Know Tartu imagine a Brad Cox two year old who won its? First two career races by fourteen combined fourteen lengths. wasn't odds-on interstates debut but you know we'll we'll see she must not be a morning glory because you know it was hard to hear too much positive but that was exciting and I thought a good start to the made. It was great to see fans Churchill from what I saw was very strict about enforcing. The regulations to keep people say so I felt good about being there and just over. Always Great. To See Butts in the seats and getting out of the seats to cheer their horses on stage now that's yeah. That part of it it. It's amazing. Even just watching it and hearing people and seeing you know seeing movement and activity is just. Realize how much you miss it. Saratoga Saratoga season was just so you know. It's kind of empty Being. There was nice but it just didn't have it just doesn't. Not, the same, it's just not the same. I do have a pick for Wednesday go ahead. race number six, fifty, thousand claimer I like number six, noman eight to one on the morning line the the person net rating fix up with this group hoping that you know people are kind of thrown off by the new. Mexico form I love to know the story how the source ended up ship in Eastern Kentucky to be, in Brendan's Barn and they throw in for tag right off the rip but I think we're going to get the right price with those running lines to take a shot at this one can can run back to a couple of good races in New Mexico. Nice. They've had Race actually I just you know just looking at entries and and so forth but The. Racing. I mean the fields have been feel sizes been good. Yeah Ten races as well. One thing. Thursday so you know robust cards and I would definitely planned for off the turf though for those. You gotTA start wondering. Yes. Well. Six race tomorrow and three, thirty, six, eastern and Ed, I, appreciate it This is great and we'll do more of it, and then we'll start to zero in next week with with you and James, and of course, the full complement of. Material and information and reports and. the. Coming. From. The, prisoner team. and Twin spires. Ed thanks a lot. My pleasure. We're going to stay here because nick, Zito is standing by and I knew this morning when I saw that it was exactly thirteen years ago today that we were all at Monmouth Park I don't care how much rain came down. It was still great and it was it was a terrific cup. Despite everything and part of it was nick winning with war passage joins us now nick of Morton. Morning. Mr Steve Great Show today I had I got lucky a little bit of I got out for a little while in You had some great guests on all days. Amazing. And Hid Fernando's amazing and I've been listening. So I did good today you had a great show. Thank you. Well, these these are fun. You know yesterday with Meg and we talked about his his win as a writer and also has i. which came for Tommy skipping ten and eighty five. Talk about your, you know the way you viewed the. The Cup. When it when it was instituted and how you you know how you started to gear? Opportunities horses toward it. Well. We're fortunate. As you know, we had a lot of great horses and. I think you know comes to mind you know thirty six reds was very interesting, and then we'll go back to pass thirty six. Nineteen ninety. So you go way back and It was very interesting because. He had run second the in. Derby died waited for the Belmont runs second. And I'm bridal was four. We were second took some island going to come over here right and and beat us. But it was really interesting Dr all day and you were talking about medications whatever you look Steve I'm pretty sure in the Belmont. We beat them bridal. He had no lasix because we didn't have and he couldn't use any New York it's a time. And then The cup. Unbridled did beat us. It was an inexperienced jockey. You get a kick out of this everybody will. Name was Mike Smith. I. Said Mikey. Is Really. Is really dead today. Favorite cycle more to come home you can stay right on rail. In Bay and bridal beat him but he was tough. You know he fought. All the around. I don't know if he was going to beat them but I mean. Mike was on and he gave us a good. So from then. I think we started to. Build off the nineties went on. Then Steve. Ninety six is you brought up that was a good one because we had storm Song I. Love that Jazz One to. Add except acceptable for General George George Steinbrenner Steinbrenner. He had got be Mac, and then Louis could tell us At the time of the world's richest race got beat knows. Alphabet Soup and Cigar was third I was in Canada. Sort of copped was always on my mind. And then. Walk Passes. Cop was just spectacular because I run into a smooth and the day and. A Nice horse that he's got his funeral, I said not Steve. Kinda reminds you walk. She says, yeah, I know you beat me three times three times twice with pyro and once Kodiak Cowboy Got Jackie's worry reminds me of. pestle because undoubtably he was the best year old. Watch Steve is you know horses he came up with some problems as old then. I look at that would memorial. They used the rabbit to run with him and it's the first time rabbit was out run. Actually pass ranch faster than the rabbit and just got beat up the wire. But he was a great but does was breeders. Cup was just tremendous. I think what happens is if you are in position. And I made one mistake you'll this team this going to start him. I. Did make a mistake. I'll tell you what it was. It had it. What's called Greenwood Lake. On the Champagne. And remember the nonsense with said Oh. You know which is all true at the time. You can't win the Derby if you. If you win the Breeders Cup two year old and and that right and you had an fly, you know I'm gonNA waited. I'll be. So that's an across myself, Chiro Championship because. Forces that wanted. We had destroyed. You know what? I mean and I didn't I just felt like, well, let's get and it didn't work out because he came back as a trae rollers as usual. So I think the Breeders Cup is really really really beneficial for anybody that can run and it should it because you never know what happens if very next year but any of the horses whether it's a two, zero, three, zero, it's. Anything better off if you have a chance, you should participate for sure because the great opportunity. He had the refresh everybody's memory i. mean he really burst on the scene with with the debut fairly early in the meet at Saratoga. Your good friend Andy. You Sat, in a box me, we couldn't believe it because I told everybody I loved this horse and I'll tell you it starring real quick after that leading up to so. Tiny rodent looking on the board seven to one. So wait a second. I don't even know who is in you would know but he won first time out and for us that was great because we don't usually squeeze him but. You know you couldn't name my first time stars role stakes winning their won first time out. And walk passes just brand came back if you can believe it. Take you one other that they don't have those. Allowance. Yeah, they don't have them more. You have to run a mistake. They don't have them anymore. If you break your main running the state, you don't run into one very, very risky especially in New, York? But anyway. He did that then he wanted to champagne and then he was just tremendous in the Breeders Cup he was just tremendous. So here's a wonderful thing. Everybody was happy you know missile defense and Bob was. Happy at his crew and we all happy. It was just a wonderful day. Jimmy Islam was there and he got into, you know his dad was instrumental with. Two years. It was. It was a cool thing and you know Lincoln, my good friend. Good. It was a lot of good memories that thank you for bringing them on so I love your show. That's the thing about it is but predeceased cough debris. It's it's it's in itself because all the races. The triple crown, which as you know, there's nothing like the Derby, the preakness Belmont one is run the right way but. The Breeders Cup brings all those races so for the actual as you point out. Fan or racing fan. It's probably his biggest day. You Know I. Think you know what I'm saying I think his biggest. Old. Visions. All divisions and you could tell who could be champion, who could be not champion and Is Very very interesting and It's a good thing I mean it's a good thing. Good thing years ago. They didn't have the Breeders Cup and Breeders Cup took a lot of emphasis away from these famous races. Yes we used to have. And some people you know historians I mean. People have. Broken. This game is still. kind of upset about that. It took a lot of way but on the other hand. Look of the attention avoid publicity and slowly you know all the action basically so. It's a good thing. I like to see you know what I love to see. Thrilling races I mean or an exceptional I hope that The two year old Jackie's were. I hope he keeps going because he reminds me of war cast my. Office obviously got a nice loss. There's a lot of Nice losses in have but. I like to see that, and then the other thing that Breeders Cup brings to. Look at Whitmore what is he seven? Now? He's seven I think. More, running. So. Isn't that wonderful that you got horses like that in Scranton everything so You, got the Europeans whatever. Stephen. Learning, philosophy and listen to you I'm telling you you. The Dick Powell Hong Kong I. got it up. We're going to listen we're going to listen to war passes. Breeders Cup Juvenile Win just just to give everybody the the field as nick mentioned corey. Nakatani gets them home at seven to one in Saratoga the end of July July twenty eighth and in in there. Actually I and I don't this amazes me. I did not remember that's lose Tis now. It was also his debut Joel Lacomb and. Pat Bian Koen was training for Joola Calm I. Always think of them, sloughs tizzy, and sluice. Think of them as west coast but Sloughs Tis now debuted at Saratoga in this race The favourite was was Rick Violet and Seth Carmen and Bill Lawrence with globalization I remember that because he ran into Breeders Cup. and. Mount Zion. Had commandeered who was second to you at a big price to this was This was a nice mutual fifteen, eighty, two, win and fifteen, forty two to place the exact. The paid to eighty eight for two bucks. Sixteen. But whatever well then. I'm sure Then the allowance when you mentioned and that's where you met Pyro the first time, and then listen to this field in the champagne war pass. And you did not go favored, which is, which is interesting majestic warrior. was was favored. That's Kins. That's that's. And Steinbrenner. War Pass Beats Pyro Z., Humor Lantana. Mob Silver Edition Majestic Warrior, Anna Kim and readies image that was. A. Very Nice Champagne and you still pay eleven twenty and that sets up this breeders. Cup where this time you argo favored. Little under five to two and lining up against pyro. Kodiak Cowboy Tele Coty. You're going to hear called Humor Oldman Buck I think that's mcpeek overextended short do wow i. haven't seen that name that forever salute the SARGE was in here wicked style and then globalization again Casey is got it cued up listen to the Two Thousand and seven juvenile thirteen years ago today. Delete the wicked style GonNa Tuck. In behind them today, they throw the lines Asian red cap going up alongside of the leaders Kodiak cowboys pushed along a little in the early stages e humor goes through it. The riles humor only two and Sophie as leaders Jimmy Trump back to firoz racing on his own gives an start another three back to show due old man doctors fall back and over extended. Nobody thinks he's lives to good eighteen off later they swing onto the backstretch now and wall past setting solid ice but he's nice and relaxed out here as well as later by nearly two things globalization seconds. Are Jennifer side and Kodiak Cowboy between them see Humorous v six lanes off the leaders. Now, here's tale of a party and the goal Kathy Seven Awfully Loose rain asked again, pick it up and go after that leader. Now on the far side wicked style, he doesn't seem to be happy today wicked styles draw back. pyro is a good twelve oaks tomatoes over extended around shore do at the back alongside of that old man boxed. Thank come into the Cord Bowl and wall pass opens up on them now and it's wall pass opened up. To lead by five with a quarter mile, Kodiak cowboys sick and salute Assad battling now have comes pyro and Pyros come out the title of the didn't fire today. It's a two horse race war passes well clear but pyros got dead these closing steadily in the center. Let's see. Can Pass find more. He surgically can and will pass wealthy pyro running a game on from second but wall. That champion breeders to Yitzi wins this. Past. Wins it. Was the second. Way Back to cody. And Taylor, the Kanji never alias actor did finish fourth any. Zito and Babul Penta, they are celebrating with their perfect two year old war past wins Breeders Cup Championship now for for four. Zero I got something to tell you. You're pretty good. What music, right? I mean you like music whatever. Tell. Me Something when he tells you that race call says. and. That's the champion walk test. That's like the greatest Frank Sinatra Melody ever heard him. For playing against, I didn't realize he said and the champion Walk Paso. That's true. Because once you go over that line, you're definitely the chat especially if you're on the feed itself. Back on a couple of a couple of follow ups off of this and. Number, one gotta figure in Cornelio Velasquez who is under appreciated for the career that he had and people may not. Know. This At a top of their head. Cornelio Velasquez. One Five Breeders Cup races in his career. He won the sprint with Cajun beat for Sativa and Joe Arcane a one the the Utah upset pleasant home for for Shug in the distaff. KIP Deville. The same same day you know later in the card. For Rick, throw and then for you and then came back and won the marathon for Butch Reed. With a fleet again, five Breeders Cup wins and he came within a couple of jumps of winning a derby when closing argument like winter very late in that over five Derby, how they talk about Cornelio and also about the wet track how concerned were you about the way? The rain kept coming down. You know everybody's could you first of all, Canarias obviously unappreciated like you said, he was a work type job. I loved the way Reid. He'd try all the time sometimes too hard. I think. I mean, no disrespect. I just think that you know he would overdo it sometimes, but he was such an aggressive right but he was really great. Like you say, just a number appreciate rider. And the wet track. I think will pass a speed I was just worried about sometimes. You know you never know what foot? Those which way when they leave the gate. So that was my main concern, but once he got going. And he got on cruise control he was. He was I, WanNa. Tell you real quick. What Barbara Livingston's got shot it was unbelievable. You'll love this time really love this. So it was a five at Saratoga and you know where I parked my truck at as Paul there and Sarah on training track you know where it is so so I said to Max when you break off 'cause we couldn't see it. It was all fog but I had to work and was a Howard tracking foggy. I said just go. So she went right I timed it and Barbara Livingston I looked at the clock and I said Holy Cow. It was like unbelievable. If you know I mean the classes couldn't catch him but I, I did it from her voice. Breaking off at the half-mile Pole, and then I was right near the wire. So it was cool and you know he did something like human. He was he was he was easily the best here. And again, it was really sad you know he had gone to push the farage had gotten him and he had gone to I think Australia came back and he had to stop off the San Francisco whether it was hot. It got back home to Kentucky. A lot of snow and? Something happens out in the field of softening just you know one. Of semi felt so good something and I think his first crop CB had some very wants to you and all right. First Crop. I think he had. Pets, at some horses in the Kentucky Derby I'm pretty sure. Now. That I forgot. I, forgot how premature? Tremendous but but as far as bringing of a two year old. He was unbelievable. He he's got to be one of the best other than I'm Brian Song. I, hadn't the end of his career. I don't think ability wise I, mean I, love that. So many great ones that find pointed out. But ability wanted to me I don't want to sound like. All of us you know. All. The time. Sometimes you get drunk woody. This wasn't could've started because you'd have to have a drink on the second floor. Jerry. What's his name Jerry back to? I mean, it was unbelievable those days but I can tell you this much. He had as much ability other than a bridal song sheer ability. Anywhere else I had my hands and I had some great ones maybe even better but. Ability. You know what? I'm talking about just town. Just ten. Town? Yes. What's A nick as part of the as part of these cup moments and we had the conversation yesterday with with Megan Tomorrow Caring McLaughlin going to join us. We mentioned storm. Song. But of the of the runner up performances, acceptable Luik tours love that jazz in the juvenile fillies and morning line who who, who the field probably or maybe even somebody else who the field. If they had run it a few times you would have won. Many that hurts as Louis concerns he got stopped cold looking at stop. Awesome frontmen. Pat Day. Long shot. Probably, cost him. And I also think morning line you could believe it again I'm not mistaken look at the one horse. Again, enough incoming jockey two, thousand, ten, it was. Joel Rosario. Havi had to do all the dirty work with thirty work with money line and just got nailed of the last. The last jumper probably. Louis was the most ample because you beat cigar and he was been you know. I don't know who the three year old champion was get won the preakness but certainly, Louis would have been the year old champion I think if you had one that. So. That's probably the most painful is a lot of them, but you're right there's a lot of I'm sure. So I think in his is quite a few more you'll look at the record, but I'll tell you tough beat I had you don't believe. I had this I wonder inboard. McLaughlin would invite. You beat me in a chemical spat was really upset that day. Danny beat me but sung king in the Whitney. I remember that I. Remember that I'm I'm nick. I'm GonNa tweet that I'm going to rat went out. To look at some of the. Aloe. Nick Zito everybody's racing on twitter war past thirteen years ago today, and of course, thirty years ago today at Belmont. As well, the the to Breeders Cup anniversaries as we enjoy Breeders Cup moments we enjoyed nick and at Derosa today. Dr. Steven, all day today brought to you by Lou Persson. Remorse Sid. Fernando Sire Watch headed refocus brought to you by hill and Dale Kelsey Danner for the first time and Jessica Martini. There are a couple of hours in today to the sale. Good luck of your planted everybody. Talk to you tomorrow at the races Sirius. XM It's apple races with Steve Back on Sirius Xm radio. Are Pennsylvania breeding program was of course impacted by the pandemic. Now with our country getting back to work, we'd like to talk about our program. The best in North America are breeder awards will remain up to fifty percents for PSI. Reds owner bonuses won't also stay at up to forty percents. Constricted races will again be run at all three P. H., ranks and PA. Day. At the races will return I'm Brian Sanford pillow for more please visit bread dot com.

Steve. John John Doug Danner Twitter Mendelssohn motown Caravaggio Kentucky Sapper Florida Ashford Tony detro Sprint America Wayne Edina Charlie Charlie O'Connor Turkey New York Nick Zito. Switz- Guy Pussy Kentucky Oaks
Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - November 29th 2019

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

59:44 min | 1 year ago

Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - November 29th 2019

"Originating from our Jimmy Johns of Lexington studios welcome to the weekend stakes preview presented by Nyerere rip bets. Green my goal bitches way to the top of the stretch with gazillion right alongside of them and they've run three quarters one ten point eight two and their end of the stretch goes Zillah books ahead and brought the law comes up on the outside and the tests the love of the law has taken the lead and has pulling away away from Godzilla green light go and arrest Tis the law. The New York breads POPs the Cork and the champagne by four. Make something. Ah Wire green light go a second pick city Alpha sixty six gazillion. Now here's Anthony. Steel and Steve Grabowski. Good evening everyone. Welcome to the weekend stakes review presented by here on the Horse Racing Radio Network on the big a anthony. Steele's still recovering from Thanksgiving as you can tell with the big deep breaths Turkey Sandwich stuck in my a tooth Steve Rabovsky alongside is usually we take you through a Baker's dozen stakes from Ecuador Churchill and del Mar.. They'll wrap wrap up the ladder to this week. Just getting underway here at acqueduct. Went to schedule announced this week. And we're sitting high atop the finish line of the big opportunity delegated down in our Jimmy Johns of Lexington Broadcast Studios. What's happened in big beautiful day? Clear Sky horse racing the planning winning this weekend. I'm I'm doing just fine kid. Kentucky Derby Future pull one available now. Through Sunday you can play that over at Nyerere bets actually fusing deniers bets accounts right under the AQUIT TAB on your mic tracks or available racetracks and get yourself involved there twenty four betting interest twenty two individual horses all the three year olds all the three year old fillies now too. Euro phillies turning three zero phillies option. twenty-three number twenty four is all the other Colton Gilbert and I thought that was a great idea. I'd never seen before. Never even thought of it before and then I took a look the other the night and I'm like wow. This is fantastic. That idea. Yeah it is absolutely if you know you have every you ever do you ever to you. Every two year old filly in training if affiliate happens to emerge I mean. Can you gotta everyone I liked. It doesn't matter if they haven't been supplemented yet whatever. It is every two year old filly on this planet as we speak is yours for the taking being in full one is number twenty three and he could play that over again at Rebecca speaking of diabetic over opened a brand new account. Play along with us again. We've got thirteen stakes four. You knew Promo Code. HR In nineteen and they've got a deposit match up to two hundred bucks over it. Nyerere bets DOT COM had over the nervous RBIS DOT COM for more details for that new Promo Code H. R. R. N. nineteen deposit match. Catch up to two hundred bucks all right. Let's get right into it's the because we get a lot of action whether here in New York's must be really nice for Satellite Atalay Sunday's a little iffy To the point where we don't have a single turf race Carter was supposed to run the TAP. It on Sundays. been postponed until sometime next week. We'll see what happens with this storm. Both even maybe get some snow here Sunday night. So I don't know what that what that means for turf turf racing the rest of the way we'll see we'll keep fingers crossed and of course always hope for the best on the tariff. This weekend the Saturday the Acura turf sprint was with as well. We'll kick things off race number seven six furlongs on the outer turf. Course get a field of just seven fully vested number five hundred ninety five morning line favorite time trying to Jose Luis Scandal. This finished behind the final frontier as stablemate. WHO's not in here Shaky Shabazz. Who was third the Breeders Cup Turf Sprint? Foul frontier is off the board in that event. Sources run just three times on the lawn. They've all comes into March layoff. That saw him run on June so three three of his last. Four of been on the turf never worse than third. He's nine to five favorite yet. You know he's been pretty good since since the they moved into the more forgiving surface He's obviously had a couple of issues but He's got great tactical foot finished behind to. Who would be the choices in here? Either of them Marie Overwhelming Final Frontier Shuki Shabazz. No doubt about it they They kind of dominated the second half of the season here in New York and in turf sprint. So yeah absolutely I. I see that this is a logical player in here You know he's one of few who's got some early foot in here. I just to me I mean I remember our last year. I thought Judy was the fastest horse around. You know he was really quick. They had concentrated him in a couple of turf sprints away now he draws the fence Hasn't been run run as well as late. But now he's GonNa cut back I think he's going to be forced from the fence. I don't know You know last time what happened early. He had some trouble and that was about it in the audie shell away. WHO's going to turn here over the AQUIDNECK tariff course On a course that favored closer. You know I think if they're able to get him to break well and rat. Ortiz will be getting a board. I've been able to get them out of the gate and break the fastest of these early and right now at this time of the season I think you'd get in front and I. It might be tough for the rest of them to run them down. I'm GONNA give you a shot here. you know what I figured. It'll be a decent price if three to one on the morning line. I think it'll be a little bit higher that I think that's a very conservative morning. Line on him. I think The one that I'm going to have to fear late is number sixty beanie who always puts in a nice late kick kick finished behind. who was a pretty good one rocket heat turf sprinter And who seemed to be getting back on his game this fall. I just missed him by a length and a half after the choice at parks last time going five eight I think the extra panels GonNa help him. He's the one I'm GonNa Appear in the land but I think I'm GonNa give you the not to take them all the way on Saturday. All right I I like fully vested Was He's done very little long very little wrong on the lawn lawn. Twist has come to hand for trainer. Leo O'Brien Brian. Is Orson always look to have. Some ability finally broke his maiden June of this year and then the blinkers went on on three starts back yet a little bit of A. I won't say it was a bad trip bruce kind of attending a dawdling pace and you just title late. They've they've taken them back and let them make the one last two. He got the money in the four to one came right back and won an impossible photo with seen in the two other end at thirty six to one gets another favorable set up in here to some speed signed on here namely Judy knew and and and even fully vested some other spe- we nearly as well. We'll see what We'll see what she does from the outside draw maybe come running late. I think fully vested doors to beat but and I won't be surprised twist posted another upset those two. I'm focusing in on Ray Seventy Ecuador Turf Sprint Championship. Race Number Eight. Some some three year olds the discovery gray tree formerly the opening day feature here big a now we run it on Thanksgiving weekend. Nine furlongs interesting Bunching here namely the top two choices on the morning line performer fall. Famous shook mcgahey sources one the three in a row since November layoff one at Belmont Saratoga back at Belmont stretches out around turns for the first time if the handling the mile and a sixteenth for easily last time. Outgoing the one turn at Belmont. He takes on tax of more accomplished two-time graded stakes winners grade. Three withers at a mile and an eighth here at agree to Jim Dandy with a spa good good effort in the traverse from his outside draw where he got beat less than six lengths Dakota Vulnera- tacitus data through favorites. Yeah you know I think the race is going to begin and end with the two of them Obviously the way that the that there should mcgahey trained performer has has has run has progressed. You know I think the patient born there. I think he showing that he's got the ability I he's has been working very well for this but like you say goes to turns for the first time here and At eight to five on the more than I certainly wouldn't want to find out if if it's bites town what is going to take step forward or be as good at two turns as as he's been at the shorter distances around one turn Yeah I think tax I mean he. He really impressed me Running second in the wood memorial here the Tacitus Last spring off a layoff. He may just be a horse. Who is better? Firing fresh. I liked liked the way he's been working as well You know he's He likes the track I think he he may be ready to come back. Citrus at the trip in here with some speed feet in front of him down on the inside and I think he may just may be ready to come back running. And we'll see one of his better efforts. I'M GONNA go at him all right. I took performance the horse that I was interested. The with is mujber montage who lost his debut. Going six furlongs a huge price for training Chad Moran to racist -struction out around one turn of Belmont the flat lot mile in the mile and a sixteenth. This horses starting to get good and I wonder what happens when he sees the second turn you know. He's on a forward. Trajectory performance. Never been through turns. He's never been this determine she's going to be three times. The price performance is going to be tomorrow afternoon the other two I want. I'm going to try and beat tax. I'll use them protectively in the pick for the pick five but I'm gonNA focus in on the other to the more lightly raced the less accomplished performer. End Move Vermont in recent number eight. The grade three discovery will wrap up the aqueduct Saturday stakes action with the Long Island. Great Three Mile and three three eighths inner turf course in here You would normally think the Chad Brown would have them over a barrel actually at three in here last year. One this year But she's an important one. She is my sister nat a half to the great sister. Charlie who has not had anywhere near the success our big sisters had since coming to the states and running three times in twenty nineteen. She's torn on the morning line wide. Open race here. You could probably make a case of five or six of them. Steve Yeah there. There are several in here could win this race. You know the number one. CK BOYANA coming out of the grade. One EP Taylor. But north of the border the most accomplished I would think so you know and I and I think her class plays out very well in here but you know it's a mile and three eighths a big field. It's a different turf course for her. You know the first time she ran here You know she. She ran on very well laid into a into a slow pace in this race. Last Fall Yeah was the was the Chad Brown run and just missed by length. You take a look at that and you say wow. She moved forward off of that too. Starts Down in Florida and you know she finished starship jubilee. Who came back to run second? I believe leave yesterday in the yeah over at Churchill downs who she was beaten I think one to five or two to five. She was yesterday but anyway you know she's a good one who had taken You know the that grade one. Ep Taylor up act in Canada last time. So you know she's got the class. I mean sh she one of the the ones to beat. Yeah absolutely but I I went for. We talked about Chad Brown having success in this race and have NBA. Well represented in years past. I I'm GonNa take the Exchequer Brand that number ten homeland security who it goes for Kristoff Clermont Second Start since the summer here missed by a half length. F I have a wide trip last time breaking from the fence in the Gora here at a mile and a half F- Earlier this month I think she lost an Persson the Nile that day but I think she had the worst of it breaking from the French moving to g outside. You know. Maybe she's able to sit a little the closer this time which is more calling card and I think at the price you know six to one on the morning lines you made drift higher than that. I think that You know she certainly want want to look at here like you say there. Several in efforts of the Nile is certainly one is well who you don't WanNA overlook You know it could go anyway. But I'M GONNA go with the price here I feel like C.. Case is the horse to beat fourth in this race last year. Like you said she has the two wins. I think it's important to note. She went on firm ground. She will unyielding rankles this grounds labeled good hard to really drive these forces at this time he hit. Despite the fact that we've had a ton of wind around here they just aren't long enough to get the moisture out of these courses Luke. How it is the so-called She's doors to be. She gets a big. I'm a big Fan. She gets Joel. Rosario for this race and that's a no-brainer And I'm a big Chris Landeros fan but I take Joel. I had the choice. I will look like a home here. I'm taking Chad Brown and I'm not just taking. I'm taking a half to one of the best fillies and Mares I've ever seen on the turf and she's getting her stretch out now assist to. Charlie wanted this extra ground. This phillies win three times in America. The first time she ran you can I will cannot tell you. She did not disappoint but she was also eighteen lengths behind in the early running and they're going forty nine in three. It was a soft course but asking the Horse to make twenty lengths first time in almost eight months. It's a lot to ask when they were entered Saratoga. She pretty much lost all chance on the gate open again. They go one thirteen to two to three quarters. She's fifteen out of it gets meet less than a length. Then you see the break Andrew passages. That's just to walk the dog on the front end last time. There's no pace. She's extremely why she didn't have terrible trip but she's wide on the turn. The comments seven wide. It was a five Horsfield Horsfield. So now she gets a mile and three eighths. You know who is aboard. Maybe Jose's getting put aboard to keep a little closer I. I don't know I I'm not saying it's GONNA lead obviously but Chad's done a lot of work with her she's worked she's worked consistently for a month down here at Belmont Park last one on all the training track since they closed the main track. She's going to be six. She's not going to be a two one write. She's GonNa be six six to one you know I'm not GonNa say that I disagree with you. I mean a ah her attributes very apparent I mean she's she's beaten less than four lengths and a great one at longchamp last year but yet but what she's been facing. I know the situations have not not been optimal but what she's been doing here in the states. You can't deny that she's been a huge disappointed that's all he's been underachiever now so she's going to have to take that. That's the phone. So far you know and you know what maybe the mile and a half is the great equalizer. Maybe she wants more than I'm hoping this mile and three eighths helps her out you see. I'm sorry Mylan throughs okay. I'M GONNA take my sister in that and take my chances race number nine goes on. I will take I break. When we return we'll head down to churchill out del Mar the tracks revisiting visiting this weekend on the weekend stakes previews by our bets? And we'll return more action. Blowers News updated. Well when we return. You're listening to weekend stakes review presented by not robots here on. Hr Art Naira Best. Is Your online home force racing and betting with narrow best. You can play hundreds of tracks from anywhere at any time using your computer or mobile device players. Earn points on building that's until they're bankrupt would exclusive promotions like this one today using Promo Code H. R. N.. Two hundred hundred dollars in your first two weeks of membership and are shorter dollars right into your account. That's Promo Code H. R. N.. Two Hundred Rebecca savell will across the United States visit parabens dot com for details marabouts racing play Gulfstream cut to Gulfstream Park for the kickoff of the championship me enjoy the heart pounding. Excitement of live thoroughbred horse racing showcasing. Some of the best jockeys and horses in the world be one of the first to experience the all new outdoor dining terraces or have brunch while viewing the racing facing at ten palms. Make sure to come early to get your free. Twenty Twenty Gulfstream Park Wall calendar while supplies last visit Gulfstream Park Dot com for details and full schedule so hr in is live online. Go to our website at force racing radio dot net to stream all of our broadcast. Live or listen to the show archives anytime meet our blogs. Get the latest news and see our entire broadcast schedule. It's all there at a horse racing. Radio Dot Net and follow us on twitter at Hr Iran and like our page on facebook. Search Apple PODCASTS FOR HR in and download our latest shows hr in home to racing's biggest events in our home on the where is at horse racing. Radio DOT net. Hi this is Jackie Jane Wilson. And you're listening to the horse racing radio network this. This is the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bets. The pace is fast. Finite is hunting her. Every step of the way these new head for the lead Lady Glamour Clamor POPs outside from third gone glimmering winding up in fourth. What you cut the corner of fifth stretch finite takes charge and finite just like doubted front by four now by five lady Glamour left behind him second gone glimmering and Lucky Jingle six months ago finite? What a five length fleet weighty Glamour Battles on from second but finite was fantastic? Today wins by six in the end. A decisive winner at that. The Lady Glamour was second glimmering was lucky. Dingo finished fourth back to the weekend again. Stakes bets on each are are and for jump back into the stakes action. It is time now for the blood horse. News Update at the top headline live from blood. OORS DOT COM Derby winner super saver daredevil. The Devil to Turkey Winstar farm stallions daredevil and super saver have been acquired by the Turkish jockey relocate Turkey export requirements when Star announced November twenty seven provision even allows for this return to the United States upon completion of their stuck to rear Turkey. Jockey Club is not extremely well with victory drew Gallup who was the leading sire and Turkey and has a concerted effort to improve their standing rock so this year through the purchase of voting Meister trap. Shot Super Saver and daredevil double among others said Elliott Walden Presidency. Oh and racial manager Winstar farm. We look forward to following their careers. Turk that wraps up of Horse News. Update here's one website that the that's the industry's go to site erasing the breeding sales on news and that lower dot com from breaking news to Silas race results race. Replay videos leading ournalists. So much more for over a hundred years so you'll find it all at blood dot com well. The website hasn't awesome in there for one hundred years covering sport for over one hundred years and we'll see what super saver in daredevil. Do nearly halfway way across the world Mr Maske they they. They did their job over here. Nine to move over and And see what happens overseas right. We'll see what happens down at Churchill. Chill wrap things up this weekend. Future Star Stars of tomorrow tomorrow. Great to Goldenrod for the fillies mile and a sixteenth over the main track beneath the twin. spires points on the line for the Kentucky Derby Field of eight finite a big win in that rags-to-riches last time we heard Travis Stone on the call daughter of munnings and of a tablet. Yes you know when you look at the top part of her pedigree you really really. I think you need to worry a little bit about how far she's GonNa ultimately want to go She seemed to handle a flat. One turn mile just fine trying to sixteenth of a mile war importantly perhaps tries to get a second term tomorrow. Yeah I like the way she was able to took to fight early kickoff that pace pressure and then just looked extremely impressive. Down the lane. you know. There is a difference between the flat mile at one. Turn to turn model and sixteenth but she does draw inside she does look to be the speed of the field and You know they're probably going and I have to catch her You know that being said she also seventy five on the morning line at seventy five. It's you know. It's kind of tough to To have questions to answer in in and actually want to you know put down a significant amount of your interest In a fairly like that I got one who is interesting. Was the number eight Motoo who I had a little bit trouble stretched out the two turns last time but she does have that to turn grace under her belt. She's beaten even money by his glory. Who returns his spot as well? Well but that Keeneland sprint Maiden score to back in early October was very impressive From a wide spot that day she came homerun pretty quick time. I think what the to the initial to turn effort under her belt. She moves forward second time going long. She may find a a a horse on the lead. Who makes stagger a little bit late so she may be a target that she's looking for I'm going to give the eight Motoo shot to To upset this race as you know while it finite is clearly the one that down. I couldn't blame anyone who's taking the shot against the favor. Yeah I'm not going to But I couldn't blame. I mean if you wanted to his glories affiliate. I've liked since day one. I know she broke made in Indiana grand but I thought she would. I gave her a little bit of a live long-shot looking at the opening day featured Saratoga Schuylerville. Excuse me got looks for Mandy Sterling like I had seven heads. She just didn't handle a mud. Came back right. Okay The Ellis Park debutante. I thought well first time turns into Pocahontas. Had the layoff set the pace in an allowance race was she beat the Phil. You're taking motoo handily. Four and a half lengths. She's not going to get in front of finite in here but maybe she just pockets all her. That's what she's going around but you know she made the kind of move that I'm expecting motoo too long and you know she said of twenty four forty eight clip from the rail had the lead to herself. So I'm fixing takes a little different for today. Not Not not that. You can't adapt to it but she's going to need to likely with few elsewhere on on the fence through. I'll use those to throw in a little motoo final. Be The top pick. Nick goes race number nine. RETU- golden rod for the Phillies Cokes. Take Center stage race. Eleven Mile Sixteen for the K.. J. C. Degree to Kentucky Jockey Club. Get the field of nine in here. All eyes will be on two of them. Really South Bend to looks as they undefeated four four Stanley huff. He won the street sense male equivalent of the rags-to-riches and he's that he did it with that same off the pace one move win. He's GonNa Tackle Tis the law. Impressive debut winner at Saratoga came back to win the grade. One pain in just a second start after missing some time and Michigan eighty-one hopeful on closing housing day at Saratoga. Seven five on his law nine to five on South Bend. They appear to be the two in the cage. Ac they do you know. And and and I was late to the party on the law. I didn't like him as much in the champagne as you. You and Andy serling you absolutely you know you thought. This horse was fantastic that he was the goods. And I'll tell you what I don't even think we've seen the best of this source yet. I mean he had trouble last time in the In the champagne he wasn't even asked in his Saratoga maiden win against fellow New New York state breads which may have been the most impressive maiden win all summer at Saratoga. I mean was he was. He's just been really really good in both of his starts. He's working well well now. They wanted to get the two turns into them. They wanted to try them at Churchill. They Wanna get them used to. They obviously think that this is a legitimate big time triple crown on prospect and you know th they're going about it the right way Now that being said he's yet to go to turns I think he's going to be a significant favorite miss race. I don't think it's going to hold true. Seven five nine to five morning line split between him and and the horsedrawn through his immediate outside South Bend. Who is a an undefeated three for three and And for that reason I'm going to try and beat both of them who are trying out for the first time I think the law is clearly the one that beat. He probably wins this race. I mean he's breadfruit turns at all I just at the three to five that I think he's going to be. It's very difficult unless you have another opinion to try and make a cold exact or something aren't who is I'm Gonna I'm GonNA give silver prospector. Shot you know he's one who I think the pace plays out a lot better for him in here. I think with the horses the the two main contenders to his drawn. Immediate inside Hatton Pot you know looking for to actually settle and not be Prompted opted much early. Because they're looking to get this longest distance. They've tried this turn trip for the first time. I think silver prospect and may have it a lot easier on the front end than he did last time when South Bend and Fighting Hiding CB to who are running here today They were able to run past them. They got the better trip last time I think if he's free running you go back to that Keelan maiden when we're hearing that huge number. I think he is a an upset possibility square price in here you know taking those law I- enforceable. We'll be the interesting choice. A little bit of a pricey broke his main going a mile and an eighth Saratoga. The only my only three for two year olds then. He came back British for charity. I thought he ran pretty good. In the futurity was a big improved from the maiden. When was was slow it was a big improving the maiden win and you know he got run over by Max `field but sort with the rest of the beaches? The half length by Governor Mars for Second Maxwell Governor Mars to in a nicer two year old. We've seen so far. I think sources just the handful of lengths behind them. If anybody's going to be the two favorites I think it's enforceable but I'm a big Fan. He's my top pick race. Eleven at Churchill goes as the the K. J. C. will start on del Mar action in race two tomorrow afternoon. The Jimmy Durante. Great three for the phillies. They'll go amount a flat at mile on the turf. We get a fee A- fulfilled in here as you would imagine fourteen Princess Caroline the half half sister to the great lady. Eli She missed. Some time was forced to miss the Breeders Cup. She was on the list anyway. forced to miss the Chelsea flower. Here in New York got over what was bothering her. She is drawn in post number twelve. All GMS was also being pointed that the Breeders Cup before for trainer Mike Student decided to back off a little bit he awaits the spot. They what it's a great three but between some of the other runners in here The Irish I wish Philly crew book. I know what I'm saying that wrong. She got four legs in the Breeders Cup she did get in overjoyed was go look winter for Neil Drysdale Bill. This is a nice race on paper. It really isn't you know it has a nice east coast flavor to it as well because I. I think that you know the two main players in here the number two arms uh-huh and the number twelve percents a Carolyn. Both did their their Did strut their stuff on the Belmont. Or of course you know I thought princesses caroline if she got into the juvenile fillies. I thought she was going to be very tough to you. Know if she was okay to go but You know it's an interesting spot to see that that they both get tripped shipped across country to You know maybe just in an attempt to lengthen the turf season for them or whatever but The outside draw for for Princess Princess. Caroline concerns me a little bit I think I mean when she debuted at at Belmont I know both of her racist came sprinting but I liked the fact. She was able to settle like she did under two different. Riders came running in both of them to pass horses You know with the city's Zip on top you questioned. The weather to turns is really going to be You know her optimal trip. But like she was able to settle in pass runners. She's got an empire. I am make around the bottom of that pedigree. She'll get lasix for the first time. I don't think trying to get a mile from inside draws really out of the question here and and the way she's running she improved in both of her starts start. I think that Big Threatening and ninety two in the morning line I think is a little bit of an overlay. But I'm going to go with the two arms. Yeah I think it's the to New York horses. I think it's I think it's piscataway line. I'll take Princess Caroline. I like the fact that after missing the time. Chad still shipping around in Iran. He does. He's not one of these trainers ships for the free lunch. This phillies gotta be at the top of for game ready to roll an extra space in the plane for everybody else's. That's not Chad Brown. Yeah that's other. That might be some other guys and gals. It's not Chad Brown. I'll take for instance caroline and all the other two I wanNA use. I play that early. Pick four pick five race to Adele Margot's grade three. Jimmy Durante halfway home. We'll take take a break come back. Wrap the Saturday action at del Mar with three more stakes including the grade. One Hollywood derby this is the weekend in stakes review presented by Nyerere bets on the Horse Racing Radio Network. Naira best is your online home force racing and betting with our vets. You can play hundreds of tracks from anywhere at anytime using your computer or mobile device players. Earn points on bets and build their bankroll exclusive Russians. Like this one today using Promo Code H. R. N.. Two hundred pitcher hundred dollars within your first two weeks of membership and are shorter dollars right into your account. That's Promo Code H. R. N.. Two Hundred Ira Best Isabelle will across the United States visit dot com for details narrow bets race cannot to Gulfstream Park mark for the kickoff of the championship me enjoy the heart pounding. Excitement of live thoroughbred horse racing showcasing. Some of the best jockeys and horses in the world be one of the first to experience the all all new outdoor dining terraces or have brunch while viewing the racing at ten palms. Make sure to come early to get your free. Twenty Twenty Gulfstream Park Wall calendar while supplies last visit Gulfstream altering park dot com for details and full schedule trainer job presented by Phasing Tipton. And we're going to kick things off with trainer. Ram Am Motion Hall of fame trainer. Bill Maher Trainer Talk Roger APP deal going to be with us for the next half an hour Carl Nascar and honored to have him on the show tonight. All trainers should mcgahey Nice enough to spend some time with us. Welcome following Bob Baffert to the program trainer. Talk the biggest names in horse Racing Wednesdays six to seven the PM Eastern on Sirius to nineteen and Xm to a one four streaming live online at horse racing radio DOT net. Hi My name hungers yet. My name is this is Jockey Emma Jayne Wilson and you're listening to the horse racing radio network. This is the weekend stakes preview presented by Nyerere bets the weekend stakes preview undivided narrow. Bats here on teach our our and and that's me the big rebound ski that Tam Word Aquidneck loosly Philippine is down and our Jimmy Johns license and broadcast studios. That's where the equality forum. lemony trump tomorrow. Morning Hall of Famer. Steve asmussen discusses his contenders and Saturday. Stakes looks back on his spectacular season. Man Man Buckley tag joins the baron fennel to talk about his the law in great to K- JC Duly Peru previews his mounts in both the Golden Ron in the cage. AC Darren Rogers the Churchill downs director food occasion shares his thoughts on the First Kentucky. Derby future wager. That began yesterday. My Man Gulfstream's vice president of racing ops Mike Lake. Alex had Twenty Nineteen Twenty Twenty Championship. Meet all tomorrow morning by red. Bryant Fence Lequan Forum eight to ten am eastern series to nineteen Xm to a one stream. It live on your home for all of racing's biggest events horse racing radio dot net Paul Right back out the Delmar we go race number four the grade. Three red carpeting through a couple of extra state a a couple of extra stakes at us. This weekend clause of the cancellations and such and schedule around a little bit to accommodate the rain. Trying the reason on the turf red carpet mile and three eighths four the phillies in mayors on the turf got a three year old to try and the older fillies. Where'd you learn here? This is a tough race for me to try to figure out. I felt exactly the same way. It's just an eight horse field but I thought there were a handful of Wade Horsfield on could win a really though. I mean I find these a lot of California stakes races out very well matched betting races. And you know if you have a good opinion you you you know you have a way of of looking ahead and seeing how these races are going to be run. I mean you can make some money for me I you know I. There's much I I looked still ended up with the two to Chalk's here I thought the racers between the six keeper of the Stars and the ATM in Iras You know nothing clever. I just figured that the six keeper the Stars Stars might have a little bit of a tactical advantage looking for her third straight score. You know didn't do well in either of her slots over the turf course where she finished fourth both times that last. That's one of the del Mar Oaks against Cambier Park. It was a pretty good one She wasn't beating that much. So I'm GonNa give her the nod to To beat these but do acknowledge that this is a raceway. I wouldn't be surprised if a few others were competitive as well. I liked her a lot in the auto missed last time. The Johnny Wong Philly I'M GONNA go back to her the other day. I wanted to talk about it. The one vibrant who I thought it was going to be okay. Better than the Breeder's cup juvenile fillies last year. Jay Walk around second half length. I would have made a ton of money if she hold old second last year. I mean it'll be gone now but I'd made a ton of last year run on turf twice or three times two times this year since that layup she didn't we didn't see our starlet. Either somebody obviously went wrong. She didn't run two steps into star. We didn't see it for months. Came back on the turf. Going a mile ran on the dirt of the mile then came back on the turf in the mile again I know. She's by violence. Shed of a diner forma man. I think this village in a run all day at a big price. I'll try and get vibrance in them but like you. I landed on the favor of the number six keeper of the stars for me in racing number four the grade three red carpet and got race number six. The Seabiscuit Varona said why seabiscuit sworn on the turf but whatevs can Redo Mile and a sixteenth. The usual cast of characters out of the great race plays all second Belvoir Bay in the Breeders Cup Turf. Sprint brench stretches. Back out is a graded winner. In fact he's a great one winner going mile Sacred Lakewood life ships out for Chad after this pointing this first two. He got the money last time. And the money allowance contest. Keelan rather easily Cleopatra's strikes in here You see the usual suspects like I said River Boyne who would much rather the straits Burana Santa Anita 'cause he never loses its anthony. Apparently who were like. Yeah I mean. Isn't this another that fits the description of all of these TURF STAKES OUT WEST. I mean I'd have to go five or six deepen hit a fe- feel even semi comfortable in a ten horse race. The that I would you know. Cover the winter Again had a handful could win. I'm interested in at the price number three next shares though. I think that interesting three of his six races this year have have the one of those races have been either owning or bricks and mortar. So you know. Keep an fantastic company. I mean you can't question where he's been running and isn't the problem. The other one is have been Ohio and snap a choir nowhere in sight. That doesn't make my case though. So well for me I just think where where this horse has been running there and again. He's another one who who hasn't run particularly well over the w what went on. But you know he won the shad well two years ago at a mile actually actually last year and this year so I mean. He broke from the thirteen post against only in the Breeders Cup Mile last time and to me he's been facing a lot a better The class relief can certainly help them here and ten to one on the morning line. I mean he's one that I definitely have to use an. I'll put them on top because of the price I'll go now going in the usual suspects Lisi's a little bit of a different thing and while you feel like this is a tough race finalizes. I don't I don't because I'm not going to take the usual suspects. I'm GONNA take the fresh face. I'm going to take the course going out there and smack them around which is where I think sacred life is going to do. This is a horse that came here first. Time off to lay off. Just it was just a five-month layoff. He gets beat a nose to a horse. You and I both fond of Luke Owen. How much money would you wanna bet on Lou cooling really even Carepa criminal recently retired right? How much money would you want to bet on curb on Israel? Absolutely now. You can argue. He did not be tough punch last time. Keelan and you had argued argued a million percent correctly but he was able to to settle off. The pretty honest pace came running late. I mean he was much the best that day and I think maybe now they figured it out. There's not on a run off like that was with in the lore. There's not this dawdling pace like that wasn't the Baroque. You'RE GONNA get a similar setup to the one you got last time out and and I think I have confidence in the fact that ADA sources successful and ran well enough in Europe and ran on well enough in the Baroque on the soft ground that if that resume rain gene put some given that ground on Saturday because they got a tunnel. Rainy San at Dow mock. He'll handle it. I loving life in the sea biscuit on Saturday in recent number. Six the number five sacred life for me at DEL moral. Wrap the Saturday action. Both at Del. Mar The general in the grade one Hollywood Derby Mile and an eighth. This one comes out of the chute where the turf meets surf. One of the last last great ones of the year for these horses. Three hundred thousand dollars on the line as you imagine a full field. Thirteen going to go to post back. When Chad Brown comes to these racing festivals he comes loaded for bear and he means business He's got one in here before digital age he also has the number nine standard deviation. I think both going to be big players in here. I think did digital age has running some good spots back east and where he's been a victim victim of slow pace. It's I think there's enough speed in here drawn to was inside at least to set things up for him to make a run. I think he can come flying in the lane. I mean I think that digital age upsets the grade one Hollywood derby I think thirteen has his other horse number nine standard deviation. The -Ation also has a nice late kick. I think he can get in the mix here and I was looking at the number one. Most Forza who has nice tactical foot goes from the eleven post To defense after taking the twilight Derby over San Anita. I think he's the third one that I would use in here. So I I think digital age wins and I think the one in the nine also a big Jeff Okay Yeah I'm GonNa take standard deviation again little worried about some giving the ground I would think digital race. His worst race came with moisture and Standard deviation wanted. Mom that was a mon- yeah I don't know I listen. I'm I get it you know. It's for me that the two I think the DVD might the old bed of a price. That's really the only thing that separating these two. I'm a bit listen. I'm a huge digital age made a ton of money when the mid American tariff Yeah I I think he's getting back to a distance smile and laugh. He ran while only last time. I didn't have the best trip last time. But you're a little bit. He did himself came out of the gate awkwardly and he just never settled deviation now a little bit more professional national his racist recently the two for me I think we're good points. I think one of the horses as I think it would be the one If there was a if the invasion these coast invasion evasion doesn't work him And maybe even a little knoll day. I don't know what happened to know they last but he was really good this summer. Three for four missed by just the nose in the ocean and silently opening day feature off the summer meet. I don't have an excuse for last time but I'm willing to red line. It see what happened. It's GonNa be if you take that race off of his car. He's three to one. You put that race on his Cardi six. Maybe even a little higher says you can find a reason and just toss it. Yeah Yeah so trouble you know more for the non. Ib just siding with Chad. Chad Brown runners in the air. But I'M GONNA throw in Mo- fours and I'm GONNA throw in all day if I may pick four pick five top pick to be standard deviation race. Number Eight on Saturday at delmar goes as the great one. Hollywood derby will take a break when we come back. We got one more segment for you. And it's all Sunday action at both the big and del Mar.. You're listening to the weekend. Stakes preview presented By narrow bets here on. HR in naira vessels your online home for horse racing and betting with narrow Beth's you can play hundreds of tracks from anywhere at any time using your computer Utah or mobile device players. Earn points on bets and building. A bankroll exclusive promotions. Like just one sign up today using Promo Code H. R. N.. Two hundred hundred dollars within in your first two weeks of membership and earn shorter dollars right into your account. That's Promo Code H. R. R. N.. Two hundred Rebecca's available across the United States visit Tara Betts Dot Com for details. Barra vets racing play a game not to Gulfstream Park for the kickoff of the championship championship. Me enjoy the heart pounding. Excitement of live thoroughbred horse racing showcasing. Some of the best jockeys and horses in the world be one of the first to experience the all new outdoor dining terraces or have brunch while viewing the racing at ten palms. Make sure to come early to get your free twenty. Twenty Gulfstream Park Wall counter while supplies last visit Gulfstream Park Dot com for details details and a full schedule. Hi Don Velazquez Julian Lebowe every. Jackie knows and said the risk of a sport every time they get loopholes although catastrophic track accidents are rare. Wendy do happen. The lives of the jockeys on the family changed forever. It's up to all of us in racing to support this man. And ooh that's why it was reported that ten minutes Jockey Fund since its founding in two thousand and six they did have had two thirds over a million dollars to over seventy five penalty disabled jockeys over ninety eighty cents out of every dollar donated goes directly to these brave men and women use that monthly stipend to pay bills hire caretakers and many other things that make even even with a permanent disability. Just easier. This is Mike Panel of H. R. N.. Did you know that the PD J. F. has no permanent guaranteed funding mechanism and relies entirely. Ah Donations from people like you. Please visit the PD J. F. Website at P J F dot. Org to learn how you can help. Hi I'm Ron Turcotte. I supported a really really jab our world and I thank you. This is Carlos Martin and you're listening to the horse racing radio network this the weekend stakes preview presented by Nyerere. Bet Scott's stormy insiders booby well from Fourth Post deals. That are a lot of pressure me. Well at the back of the pack back. He knew Turks for home. Front major look no moves up right alongside after three quarters eight point three six and grabs the front got extorting. It's finishing past march to the are just charging an odious to come to a final sixteenth. Got Stormy has taken the lead and got storm Hey. The Far Star headed up photo raging bull and stable and much to the arch between them of course record fraud. One thirty two black stormy. Boy Thankful winner. Colorfully Buni one. Four star Dave up at the SPA back in with the ladies in the grade. One matriarch Sunday afternoon with turf me to serve at del Mar will to the weekend. Stakes preview was in the naira. Beth's here on our end we got four heats to get got to win cancelled racing near it. The BIG A on Thanksgiving for the first time in thirty years. Jon embree our track announcer here. Ecuador and I were talking about how many stakes races before the cancellation was announced Wednesday how many stakes hadn't moved WELP. Oh apparently the fall highway was on a different day thirty years ago but it and intended at the very least it has been a staple on Thanksgiving will run it on on Sunday instead. Like I said keeping the sky here especially at accurate for Sunday We didn't call it any phrases with the nor'easter if you will winter inter storm even though can't I mean that was December first one. It's still really can't be considered a winter storm. I guess I guess keep an eye on it. They don't WanNa fall highway great three to one hundred thousand on on the line. It looks a little different than when we went on Thursday Namely friends fire is not cross entered because he won the fabulous strike in hand one on one by a speed figure by the way Mananga healer. And that's what Tara and a one. Oh five you heard it right here on each rn. Wednesday as part of our brand radio. super-size red brand radio show all the land of championship action from those three National Holiday Racing Festival races. One Oh five from Hilo one on one for forensic fire no forensic fire back. Some people speculated that he won that fabulous strikes so easily Jason Service back. And I'm surprised we didn't he didn't at least take a gander. We have a few new shooters in here and it's a much different race. I don't want to handle yet this race. For the second time in five days I noticed it was a little bit different wage wage land in this fall highway. Well I think the setup would have been just fine for him. If I agree I mean if he couldn't blow out a match what you probably couldn't it was a pretty easy effort You know maybe he would have been interesting here. But I'll tell you there's some speed A. Recruiting ready as quick as anybody. He's going to the front strike. Power has a lot of speed You Know I. There are several in here who are going to be very close up early and I think that's going to set things up pretty well for For Wonderful Life from the Fed. Wow I I'm gonna I'm going to give him a shot to upset this field thing. Just consider a really nice trip. You know he likes answers this a little bit. Fresh Michelle never has been going very well. The Barn has been doing some Nice Nice work of late and Joel Rosario get aboard here and this horse I mean he whoever's on on his back he always runs. He runs his eyeballs out. He just you know he may not be the The the classiest horse go but I think he he gave. He tries hard every time he likes this trip. And he's GonNa I think it's a very very good good trip down from the the inside here so I'm going to give wonderful light shot here Although I do think there are several who have speed and one gets away like recruiting ready. I mean I wouldn't be surprised. Is If he if he cleared me he just kept going but I think the spot Is Pretty Good for wonderful recruiting ready to classes. These horses and I know now that he's probably better on the front end. I think he's fast enough to get in front of these horses but he also has that alternative under a router. He's one from off the pace so if you know if if you get a speed wall and here if you get a horse like You know namely Strike Powell just all speed happy just has to go. Oh I think he gets it off I just you know I don't WanNa cop out here but I just don't see this horse. Are you concerned at all about the one. I'm not no I don't worry about weight. You know I worry about horses and then I don't worry about six for almost especially ruling ready for me race number eight. The feature on Sunday here sounds so weird to say the feature on Sundays. The grade three fall highway because unless they moved thanksgiving Sunday to sound weird. Say uh-huh back out the DELMAR. We go some Sunday action. The Cecil B mills agreed three. This time for the two year old colts and geldings though that same flat mile they will go In the agency Durante on Saturday the fulfillment here. I'm all over. The one hit the road. he was very shop and taken the Zuma beach back in October. Sandinista many drew the thirteen fourteen. Ah In the British Cup juvenile turf one by structure and was still coming. Late was only beaten by just over a couple of weeks. Despite that wide trip from that impossible post I know they were hoping for a lot more from him Victim Nelson gets back aboard. He was on for. Oh that Zuma beach when I mean it doesn't have much speed but I think the I think bill take the move to the rail You know every day of the week and twice on Sundays compared led to what he was stuck with last time. So I think hit the road. I think he makes the last running here. Another one I was interested in was the three kangaroo for Richard. Mandella are those very impressive maiden winner going through turns at Santa Anita at the The end of September he's been working Sharply of late on the main track for his return to lawn and his first with the winners I think he can clunk up and get a second. I'M GONNA go with hit the road and Carol. I liked candor L.. And I I also liked the fact that Richard Mandella showing little little loyalty keeping the five pound bug or haven leads aboard And I landed with her I just just with him rather I love his punch in that maiden went and I like how he kept on running through the wire and that that was a big effort I think he ran Far More professionally Than a first time starting two year old would he showed a lot of promise. Listen there I like that. Richard gave him a little bit of a break. I don't even think this horse was was entered for the Breeders Cup. I don't remember seeing this name in the pre entries and certainly not surprised by Richard Mandella not pre entering horse off. Just a maiden win. It was good though it was a good win. It was good. It was I candor. I'll I'll take him race number three the grade. Three sessile beat the mill careers number five. We go the grade to the Hollywood Turf Cup from two year olds knowing a mile to the all the horses going a mile and a half Another good size field and here. I'll say usual suspects again. Even though have used numerous times on the program united beaten just ahead by your two thousand one thousand nine horse of the year bricks and mortar. I'm not saying that like it's It's happened saying like it's happened already because it better happen United with the rest of his is life last time. If you're worried about a bounce I cannot blame you. This horse ran his proverbial eyeballs out. It was the race of his life. If you WANNA look against them. I have no problem with it in here. But if you're playing pick fours and fives in any multi-race bet you'd be a fool to leave this off your take. Absolutely if he if he runs anywhere near that last one obviously he xactly and even if he regresses to his prior efforts. He's he's right there as well and I'm not going to go against him. I'M GONNA use him on top. I the one who could most likely beat him is one right to his inside. Overdue by fulfill the motto likes to Dumb Turf Course and he's another one. He's got a little bit more tactical foot. Maybe a little bit closer early for this. You know the stretch out looking for his third straight. He knows how to find the wire era. You know two for two and blinkers. He'd be my other one he was he was the kind of horses mentioned. The blinkers at the very end. He was the kind of horse where it always looks like. There was something often just miss it and I think the blinkers have fix that you know he kinda put it all together the last two times It's a big stretch out. It's a three furlong stretch out and I think that would be my biggest concern if this was at a mile and a quarter race on the belt. Or even you know a mile and three eighths Torma even a mile and a quarter race under his belt. I feel a lot more comfortable fair. Assess You know because like you said it's not like united doesn't have prior races that make him a contender because he they'd be does. You've got to be three quarters of length in the winning ham. He got beat a less than two lengths to Cleopatra Strike. WHO's back in here in the John Henry Turf classic over at Santa Anita. You know. I think it's worth only the sources one for one at Dalmer and I think Richard Mandella has found this horse. It is we'll wheelhouse. Let's get him going in these marathon distances they awad. He's a gelding. This was going to be around a long time if he improves a little bit more to his five season sources sources can be tough as nails next year. It's going to this nice little future ahead of him. He's in good hands too because you know. Despite the fact he's gelding always run seven times this year. You know Richard How to get them through those conditions to try to get them into these stakes races. And he's rewarded him by running really well the stakes races. He's going to be a good horse next year. I think there's plenty of improvement improvement and he's supposed to bt sources right. It's it's it's in the post seems to have seen better days Even Cleopatra's strike Who of course entered on sat on a course on Friday at del Mar.? We'll see on Saturday rather racy runs in you Kinda feel like they. All they are but of course like united has little upside and a horse like overdue has a little upside united overdue. Sounds like both of us on the same page judge in race number five the Hollywood Turf Cup wrap it up with another grade. One the matriarch for the phillies in mayors logo of Flat Mile. The first time got stormy seen her own kind and a while she did run behind only in every mile Settle She's had a busy Z.. Year seven rations puree three weeks. She is run at six. Different restricts already Gulfstream keeneland Churchill. Saratoga would find Santa Anita del Mar.. She flew back to the east coast. Now back to the West Coast. I I think those are all things can certainly Steve. Yeah I mean I mean. She certainly danced every dance. I mean she shows up every time. She's just a hard knocker got a track track record at Saratoga. This summer over the board you know with the against the boys had trouble in the Woodbine Mile. The the the good ground was a problem fern. She's still only gets beat. A half length runs into a horse. Richardson incredible kick and only last time. Beats everybody else for second you know. She's just a solid racehorse their issues though. Oh now you're talking about that back and forth and back and forth. Relatively long year you know relatively long. Yes I mean the all of those things make vulnerable well trying a new turf course and and pretty some pretty solid competition for the first time absolutely if you want to land with her on her accomplishments and you're willing to swallow the priced eastern. You know that's fine but I. I would use her in Maltese but again. She's not one that I could focus on. I'M GONNA go with in Chad. I tre significant different form. A Nice and fresh off of that no noble Damsel Wind. She was big in Boston. Spa Saratoga you know she's this middle distance type of turf horse. Who who has the foot to stay close early and hold off the closers I love the way that she that she has run. All four of her starts this year. Where all big you know right? They've won three of the four war right there in the other one was she was only trying five and a half furlongs. I think this is her distance. I think you know with with John. Velazquez coming out to ride Harry's I used to abort her I think she is the one to beat and the other one. I'M GONNA try and use his Julie Foxtrot on the outside. Who has been great for Brad Cox? This year ran into Oni. And the Vassiliko in her the last two starts when when she was second. I mean she's done very little wrong. She's a a filly who fits very well class wise here. I'M GONNA use her first. I'm going to try to use both of them to beep deep got got storming. I'm GonNa give you a third one to use daddy's a legend great quote from George Weaver. Maybe it's a tougher. Feel about him. The sheer there's no Oni Oni. I'd rather face them face owning your own. He came in very late in the game last year she won the Jimmy Durante. Two years ago big a second in this race last year is a three year old. I think she turns the tables and gets the money. Daddy is a legend for me. I'll use the two phillies. You mentioned of course you gotta use got stormy me. That's a fun renewal of the grade. One Matriarch Steve. Give me an IRA bets. Best that I'm going to go I'M GONNA go with Mojo in the Goldenrod. A Churchill. Three year olds fillies tomorrow afternoon. I'm going to go out to where the turf meet Surfeit del. Mar You're in that seabiscuit sacred life for me. He's my naira vets. Best bet great job as always. We'll do it again next week. All right equine form tomorrow morning at eight. Am To nineteen to a one horse racing. Radio Dot net wraps the weekend stakes preview for Steve Rabovsky Dela Pena on the big. Am East we all hope you have a lucky night. I'll be with all your photo finishes have a great night H._R. Impatient.

phillies Chad Brown New York Chad Jimmy Durante United States Rebecca savell Hollywood Belmont Gulfstream Park Naira DELMAR Horse Racing Radio Network Churchill Joel Rosario Jimmy Johns Saratoga Twenty Gulfstream Park Wall
Equine Forum - November 28th 2020

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

1:59:17 hr | 10 months ago

Equine Forum - November 28th 2020

"From the rail to your radio this is the horse racing radio network. Confidence half thanked donna. Try to one a gumede. The final furlong out the sixteenth bowl got mean john velazquez rolling on home to win the breeders cup. Filly and bear sprints mean. Welcome to the equine forum. Diver dixit back. Did on the outside these putting on a show flits. Here's whitmore striding forward for the lead handoff final breeder's cup sprint. What a day in the career of this seventy year old with four a-rod ortiz junior pep on the breeder's cup sprint. Now here's anthony stabile. Good morning everyone. Welcome to the equine forum here on the horse racing radio network on the big af filling in for the baron of the backtracking. My kinda michael actually be back next week for three weeks mike. Sue comeback in just in time for cigar mile day. Mike has been known like myself to enjoy a cigar or to my cases cigar dozen so mike will be back just in time for the final grade one of the year in new york. They ran the last grade one of the year in kentucky. Yesterday the clark went to one of racing's bad boys Amazing you know when you think a bad boys in racing bodey expressed certainly comes to the top of the list. after unseating jockey. John velazquez at the start of the twenty nine thousand nine preakness stakes and running around without a jockey. He got plenty of publicity for his antics on preakness day. It wasn't the first time it wasn't the last time he pulled the people some antics but yesterday he pulled off the grade one win. I went outside of south florida Namely gulfstream park west the old caller which closes its doors today santa see old caller. Go away but they closed their doors today and this weekend a lot about closing weekends all over the country it'll be the last weekend of the year at churchill downed and they go out with a bang stars of tomorrow card today single six payout tomorrow mandatory payout. We'll talk to. Ben hoffman Kickoff the show. We'll talk about what's been of course. And this is the theme It's been an unusual year. Obviously thanksgiving weekend upon us always great weekend of racing and this weekend so far has proven to be a fantastic week in the racing to more big days left Steaks all over the country. Acqueduct churchill and del mar both churchill. And delmore wrapping things up this weekend. but a lot of good steaks we still have cigar mile datacom. We still have some other gracious to come this year. Some other great ones And great racing all around. But you look back. This year and thanksgiving weekend has a little bit of a different meaning For everything we've all gone through this year as individuals and as an industry and the fact that we've gotten to see these fantastic racing eats pull off right. A little bit of a shorter meet wasn't even in the spring of deal and it was a summertime keen when meet and then churchill being able to pull off everything including a postponed and delayed kentucky derby the lead preakness over at pimlico in october. The lead and shorten belmont stakes appear in new york. You just grateful that everything was able to happen. I think a lot of people felt we'd have seen a whole lot more change due to the covid. Nineteen when in fact. I think everybody seemed to work together. Especially the folks down in kentucky. I think they deserve the the virtual round of applause for letting everybody take a piece of that summer racing alice park acquiescing to keelan for a bit. As well as churchill downs for the kentucky derby week kentucky downs getting involved and everybody keeling churchill. Everybody really just getting getting getting along for the greater good and i think that was very important. I have said this countless times. I will continue to save countless times as an industry did not miss a day of racing throughout the covid nineteen outbreak. Yes some tracks were forced to close for a bit postponed some races and some cards but there was a thoroughbred racing card run every single day in north america. This year could say and you can legitimately say this year from january first on we have run at least one thoroughbred racing car in the united states. And i think that is an unbelievable achievement when you look at all of the other major sports all of the other businesses i mean yesterday historically has been black friday throughout the country they have thanksgiving stores opened up. We got to a point. A few years ago to stores are opening at four o'clock on thanksgiving day and black friday was not the same yesterday. I did a little driving around that a little travel. There was nobody on the road stores were not as package. They will narrowly were. I can tell you one thing. Though there was a full slid thoroughbred racing. Yesterday we ran races. Well into the night here on the east coast and again just just A real feather in the cap to the great game they play outdoors. And everybody's done a fantastic job. This year i know Thanksgiving here in my home I'm thankful for being a part of one of the if not the greatest industry in the country Work get to go to work with a bunch of people who share the passion. And it's just been great and of course we couldn't do it here on the horse racing radio network without you folks tuning in each and every day for the coverage got a fun show for you again this morning As we look ahead though. Bobby newman's gonna join us later on talk about a little stakes. But he kind of said something right after the breeders cup wrapped up when you look ahead to the last two months of the now eight weeks if you will you realize especially when when we're covering everything you know. We have the race day program during the week. Weekend stakes preview on friday nights in between colin show trainer. Talk all the great programming here on the network including wind forum. You realize that there is still a lotta good racing left after the breeders cup wraps up. So that's today's poll question. You can reach out to us at hr and on twitter. There are in my opinion three big days weekends. After the breeze is it clark weekend churchill. Downs that your favorite clock run yesterday k. jc. Today i Future derby pool up until his clock weekend. Churchill is it cigar mile day next saturday about a mile and a half for me at the big day or is it what some feel to be the start of the next year. I know i feel that way. Nobody feels that way. Opening day santa anita traditionally held on december twenty. Sixth last year was pushed a couple days but traditionally the day after christmas opening day. Either so is a clark weekend. It's day is it opening dates and anita hit us up on twitter at hr and you can vote will read some of your comments on the air a little bit later on during the equine force leaking of equine form. Ben hoffman vehicles and of racing and join us from churchill. Downs the racing secretary as well trainer. Dale romans has smiley subotica and sitting on kgo pointed towards today's to turkey jockey club at churchill downs dell is gonna join us attachment rate here in akron as well in the grade. Three discovery our industry star of the week presented by stewart. Mars is our good friend. Michael blown found revolt friends. We had period from the bbc ca. Last week michael this week. Just talk about a couple of fantastic charities. Michael thought well friends as we get closer to the holiday season the some help down at old friends. Graham ocean has a raid of the del mar stakes. Going on using the send. Breeder's cup juvenile fillies turf winner from last year sharing out. Try the older village amass for the first time in the matriarch tomorrow afternoon and train. Hugh mcmahon celebrated his one thousand th victory last sunday at laurel using come on talk to us about his career and about that special milestone down at laurel. You got the poll question. You got the lineup. When we return we'll bring you. Ben hoffman the vice president of racing and racing secretary churchill downs. Talk to us about a fun closing weekend. Stars of tomorrow car today. Yesterday's clock and just what it's been like to handle the racing obligations in one of the most unusual years you will ever see. Of course all eyes on churchill downs. Usually the first saturday in may this year was the first saturday in september. We'll talk about all of that when we return. This is the equine forum on. Hr when it's time to paint the fences in barns thank farm paint at farm bank. You get the industry's best. Coatings and paints factory direct at low prices farm paid is your source for quality paints roof coatings dustless arena footings. And you can purchase online or drop into a farm store near you with of bluegrass country. At seven hundred phillips lane in lexington kentucky columbus. Ohio and sandusky ohio by factory direct and save at farm pain dot com. That's far paint dot com. Hi this is joe. Nicholson during these difficult times. The team at nicholson insurance agency says best wishes to all for good health. We can all look forward to better times ahead when this pandemic is behind us. But in the meantime we need to stay although the staff at nicholson insurance is working from home. Phone calls into the office or forwarded so that service remains intact customer service professionals. Continue to be ready willing and able to help you with your insurance need whether it be equine farm hall auto business or life. Several nicholson insurance. Agencies companies are returning portions of auto premiums because of reduced travel during the isolation period. Which i think is the right thing to do. Please call eight five nine two two four seven row eight zero nickel finish currency agency. Thank you the national. Hp is continuously working to protect the health and welfare of horses by advocating and funding research to help reduce equine injuries. Lobbying for a national testing lab to oversee and establish absolute uniform laboratory protocols advocating for every track to undergo an annual independent surface assessment passionately supporting off the track thoroughbred retirement facilities and adoption groups. And so much more see additional. Hp initiatives at national bpa dot com. This is eddie delahoussaye. You're listening to the harsh racing radio network ready to roll in behind doors. Says six silver prospectors launching a wide run from seven five white there by my standards. Owen deals coming with his run launching a rally six or seven wide. It's the field. It's the top of the stretch. Mr freeze turning from in front bodey express to the tax code of honor switches. Outside rolling down the senator track coast with offensive. Coming up the rail. There's one for long time ago it's pony express in front here comes code of honor and dale coastal defense and mister freeze but bowed express is bound by the sixteenth pole. He's holding and foti express wins. The clark holds up code of honor to win it. By a length. it's tight for third coastal defensor irwindale. Mr freeze was fit. Next thing you know hidden scroll winning grade one bodey express getting the job done in yesterday's clark at churchill downs welcome back to equine forum on the horse racing radio network. Nice enough to join us now. Speaking of churchill downs vice president of racing as well as the racing secretary they what was a couple of tough hats to wear especially at the same time. Ben hoffman joins us now morning ben next from time this morning on the equine form. Hey good morning. Good morning. Glad glad to be here. What a year I mean as i. I've been leading off a lot of interviews with that with that question because it leads to a three minute answer but i mean what a year been an unbelievable year and i kind of had a feeling you might touch on this and the there was no playbook for for year like this for any any racetracks across america and It's been challenging and just thinking about what are what are horsemen our trainers and and grooms had to go through all year long and just to be able to raise which were very lucky but yeah unchartered waters here and I don i got. We gotta take our hats off to these horsemen seven days a week the hoops. They had to jump through all year long at every race attracted to keep the show going. So it's been it's been unbelievable and we we all want to. We all want this to end and some way somehow get back to normal soon. It's been a challenge for a lot of people think that's a great way to put it. There's no playbook for this right. I was thinking about this you. How long have you been doing this now. Thirty five years at least thirty. Yes over thirty. So you've and you've been you've been well traveled in your career We've seen equine harpies outbreaks that have forced some shutdowns and so at the very least a blow to a horse population. Right carol back here. When i was a kid in the lead eighties. There was jackie strike for a couple of weeks. Billy fox road forty nine hundred win the first ever cigar mile back then the nyra mile there are different kinds of stoppages. And and we've as an industry we've worked through all of them obviously. No one's ever seen anything like this. Exactly right yeah. You guys have done an amazing job From from day one. I mean the move to the move to postpone the kentucky derby i mean could not have been one that was either easy or one that was taken lightly. No question about it and You know those that was very difficult Because just the kentucky derby i mean it's it's not just churchill downs race. I mean it's so important to the to the city of louisville and the state of kentucky. And you know there were again wasn't playbook for this and and we tried to do the right thing and you know there was gonna be ripple effects when we announced where we were going to run our race and you know. We talked to as many people as we could to try. Working together and nbc. And really you know we just had had to make a decision and you know just one thing to think about. You just can't with one hundred and seventy five thousand people come to the derby east. Can't reschedule that on a whim or delayed a few weeks just the whole ticketing process and if the enormous it's an animal what it is and so you know we just did the best. We could with With everything and you know was not easy was not easy and then your roles you have a vast amount of responsibility because now you have to worry about getting the product to a point. Now if the present the product to the governor earn and okay this is our plan you after then you play a big role then and going to the races as the racing secretary so your hands are on this from five in the morning till six at night at some point is a guy like you again. All the experience hands involved the ever. Do you take a step back. Look at the game plan and save yourself. How are we gonna make this work under these circumstances. Well i yeah the whole team over here. That's how was because the game plan kept changing literally by sometimes it was days sometimes it will change two or three times within hours dealing with and my superiors were the ones dealing with the health department and the governor's office but that was a daily hourly task from march mid march or whenever the thing heated up and The playbook kept changing every time we had a plan that we thought were going forward. It had to change because something was struck down or agreed upon. And but we just capped okay. No-one kicked and scream. Let's come up with another plan. That'll satisfy everybody. Because ultimately we just whatever we have to do to start racing whatever we have to do to open the barn aritz allow horses and grooms back so it was it was my fodder cold. It was frustrating. But the team up here. They just kept rolling with it and the the end goal is whatever it takes forever to race. The owners pay the bills on these sources. We want them to be able to raise for some i money and we as the business when operate and Because that's what we do. No it was. It was sometimes hourly the playbook would change All all spring and summer leading into september. It was it was wild and we're still racing. And i don't know that i've had a chance to you. Know just kind of take a few minutes and think back. 'cause we're just we're still trying to get through the through fall meet and It's just been a wild year an absolute wild year. Yeah that's that's that was my next question actually A day like today the stars. Tomorrow's cards fantastic idea. I mean dozens of horses literally can head to the post today A sensational twelve race card highlighted by the two great twos during the middle of the first kentucky derby future pool you got the single six mandatory payout tomorrow runoff. You under the lights today. I always love that aspect of churchill. Downs guys that the lights years back You get to enjoy a little bit of today when you get to take a look. I mean the you've gotta be excited between yesterday and today Yesterday of course you get one of the favorites from the Juvenile phillies and simply ravishing to come back in just three weeks to run in the in the goldenrod you get a couple of horses from the juvenile in the cage. Ac and yesterday You get you get by my standards back a couple of others as well. You gotta be real real excited and happy to get all of that participation from the breeders cup Having been run just three weeks ago. Yeah no question this is. This is a great time of year. Typically anyway and kentucky with the you know starting with the thanksgiving card clark day leading into the stars tomorrow today and these full field today and when you look at the maiden races. They're all jam packed. All the connections all riders leading riders leading trainers pedigrees. and yes. It is exciting. I and you know in truth yesterday. staying on the rail watching the clark under the lights last night in a way When they turned for home and there was about eight of them. That had a shot. You know that was the first time. I long time actually had goosebumps and and yesterday watching that clark was. That was exciting. And it's like. I did have a chance to really take that all in because again this whole year. It's just been so much. You know. Pandemic kovin mask wearing a mask lilies and just to keep the thing going but i actually enjoyed the racist yesterday especially clark that was a that was a wild turn for home and a good run to the line. And so yeah. I'm kinda finally. I'm i'm pumped up Yesterday or it just seems like we've been working so are sometimes we forget about the actual racing the product and the worst but now in today's college outstanding. And what's with all these two year olds and it's going to be a big day to day. Yeah fun on the car that The goldenrod comes up a real good race. Brad cox has a couple in their coach and travel call who certainly a coach's a perfect three for three travel column. Who knows what happens in darley also by these over at keeneland if she doesn't break a little slowly maybe simply ravishing doesn't get the lead that afternoon also have very interesting. Second time starter. Steve asmussen's clara. She looked really good daughter of grade. Win cavorting and then of course you have the favorites simply ravishing You know you're in kentucky Obviously all year for work Kenny mcpeek and robbie alvarado. It's been some story this year. Those two guys no no question about it and I love how i love. How That that Alabama just kinda Re restarted robbie's career. He was siedman shrug on the other rough year or year and a half but That's been a great story and and He is his career rejuvenated. Just just one race one race and one guy Sticking with him and counting on him and it's worked out very talented. Jackie and then Later on in the cage. Jc you get Boy i'll tell you what you in the guys and gals in that region. Gotta do a good job. You have the most talented maiden in the world owning great to be six to five keep keeping in mind gonna wet in a couple of main raises. Today he's gonna go take another shot in the stakes company. I feel like he may be a little bit more. Vulnerable than simply ravishing. If you will but both of these races you get ten phillies in the in the goldenrod you get eight or nine colts and geldings in the cage. Ac both of these races have come up really really nice and again some british participation in both. Yeah the their deep races and the jockey club. I mean you've got a little bit of everything you got. You got some of these guys that want to lead you got some that look like they might be deep closer. So i think there's gonna be a bunch of them at the a really do. This is a. This is a wide open race. And i know Give me minded nice spell. A maiden is highly unusual to be in a great to race like this with a maiden. But he's i he showed up. He tries every time he brings is run. So i mean he's a quality quality cold But you know. I think the racist wide open. I see through four. Or five of them. That i wouldn't be shocked to jumps up and winds now ordinarily a little breather would-be in store for churchill. But now you guys have a little involvement turf way. Park and now racing starts right away next week. and of course hopefully everything is back to somewhat normal next year and on may first way going to spring latch for the on the first saturday. Navy the kentucky derby always looking ahead to derby right. I know that they've already puts. You guys have already put some parameters in place derby day. No question We're we're looking forward to to may i You know still a lot up in the air on the how many people they'll become 'cause this thing's not over Hopefully hopefully by then we'll hopefully by. I don't know february march. We might have a little more clarity. But now we'll be running the derby on may first Regardless of the situation as long as we're allowed to and and hopefully this Help to where we can have. As many people as possible at the kentucky derby they The the racing community needs this. The country needs this and it's all big sporting events we just we have to get back to normal or as close to normal soon as possible. Just everybody is struggling in this. This pandemic it's been very difficult on everybody across the country and across the world really but as soon as we can Is the kentucky derby kind of right up spring and hopefully you know we'll get back there with a bunch of people i mean. I don't think it'll be one hundred. Seventy five thousand but if it's I don't know fifty eighty something but we can't wait. We can't wait. And we just gotta get back into the kentucky derby back to the first saturday in may. It's very important for a lot of people you've done a great job at churchill. You've done a great job in kentucky. Basically getting getting everybody in each other through what has been a a wild wild season churchill and and kentucky downs and alison human all working together through the summer into the fall to put on some fantastic racing house my favorite abby doing. She's doing good. She's doing good Getting ready to to ocala for the winter getting ready to go ocalan rides and babies so She's tough licensed up. Bumped up all right. Well ben thank you again for everything. Great job great job as always and we'll talk to you soon. Okay keep up the good work. Okay you too. Thanks ben one. Only hoffman penn. Yeoman's work down in louisville lexington. He goes back to keenum as well. And then and then huffman has done a great job. He's been a big and a key player in keeping racing going in the bluegrass Through this this cove. Nineteen outbreak and hatch really off To ben a real legend down in the bluegrass state when it comes racing over thirty years in the industry speaking of legends it's time now for the lexus. Legends of the turf brought to you by the lexus store of lexington. This is the story of a man who was unquestionably one of the very best in the annals of thoroughbred racing at plying his trade in the saddle as accomplishments has arranged them or not only noteworthy. But they were watermarks. Among the writing colony on two continents the sands of the racing hourglass are poured back to the late nineteenth century. To begin this odyssey subject of this dissertation. I saw the light of dayton cayden town kentucky in eighteen eighty three. He wrote his first one in chicago in eighteen. Ninety nine on a horse call avenue stroke and he subsequently wrote in this country with unrivalled success until nine hundred ninety three and nineteen one he piloted the one over the kentucky. Derby on a horse named perhaps fittingly his eminence and the winners of tonia derby new orleans derby in memphis derby and point of fact and is abbreviated american writing career. He had but four kentucky derby now mounts but never finished out of the money he won that classic and back to back years aboard the aforementioned his eminence and in nineteen with al he was third while in the saddle aboard thrive in one thousand nine hundred and was second aboard early in nineteen three. He rode one hundred and sixty one winners in nineteen o one a total absolutely unheard of in that day and age. He often said the very best horse he ever rode was mcchesney a horse condition by sam. Hildreth he eventually had a great deal of trouble. Making american writing weights and opted across the big pond so to speak to ride in europe and there he experienced measured success until nineteen thirty he i wrote in russia where he won the russian derby twice and finished second in that have been four times in six years while under contract mr m loz wrath from nineteen ten to nineteen twelve. He wrote an austria hungary for prince. Lubomirski he then returned to russia where he rode from nineteen thirteen to nineteen seventeen. You won the russian derby three years in a row. Nineteen fourteen nineteen fifteen and nineteen sixty or leeann mont chef. Who at the time was one of the wealthiest men in the country are man left. Russia in nineteen seventeen at the inception of that nation's revolution being led by measures trotsky and lenin when he was to leave that country who went to bid his friend. What was to be a fond farewell many years later in nine. Nineteen forty one. He learned that his friend and benefactor. Mr monti was washing cars at that time. For the nazis in paris the story of our subjects escaped from russia. Nineteen seventeen would provide more than ample fodder were john lecarr novel many times before escaping to poland. He crawl that his hands in these four hours to avoid being shot at by the bolsheviks in one thousand nine hundred twenty he left worse off or paris and he wound up their writing for mr manta chef until nineteen twenty six. He wrote his last race in nineteen thirty at the age of forty seven composite lee. He wrote over twenty three hundred winners in this country and in europe and he wants road eight winners out of eleven months in moscow. The vast majority of victories were scored aboard two year olds because he always hustled them out of the gate rated them and then saved something for the finnish. European writers hell bent for leather throughout and had nothing left at the end. You always felt although never able to explain why that collectively australian writers were the best. Our man turned to training in france in the nineteen thirties. With horses in training at maison lafitte near paris when the second world war broke out he was forced to disband his stable. Return his property over to the french government which quarter two hundred soldiers there. Then after francis quick defeated was forced to quarter nazi soldiers on february twenty fifth. Nineteen forty one. He began another portion of his international. Odyssey route him first spain then to portugal and finally back to his native america having been in europe for some time. He was fluent in french german and russian. In addition to english he passed away in one thousand nine hundred. Forty one at the no janine age of ninety-one with not only fond memories of the turpan continents but with a cumulative writing record by any measure means or standards has to rank among the all time. Best historical has the very fiber of what legend of the world racing is all about. He was jimmy wingfield this row performance and imaginary technology. That's lexus when every detail. Every moment and every emotion is crafted by lexus. It leads to amazing experience. Artistry than inspires design that compels and engineering that excites. This is mike pana. And i can tell you personally. As alexis owner the enjoyment you'll experience from driving any of the lexus. Model lines is unparalleled. Visit the lexus. Store of lexington today and see what i've been talking about for nearly fifteen years. The people truly make the difference. Lexus has also been a longtime supporter of the horse industry with a keeneland shop located at the door of lexington and through their sponsorship of keeneland lexus raven run stakes each fall. Talk horses and experience amazing in your brand new lexus. Aired restarts karol prince leading third crop sire by number of stakes winners stakes horses graded stakes winners and graded stakes horses. He's also a top five general sired by the number of two-year-old winners so far in twenty twenty and his current crop of yearlings is his first conceived at a twenty five thousand dollars stud fee yearlings from cairo. Prince's fourth prop sold for up to four hundred thousand dollars. This year underlining his incredible commercial appeal at fifteen thousand dollars stands and nurses for twenty twenty one cairo prince's value in the extreme standing. Airdrie stud think about it. Justify a four-time great one winner eclipse champion three year. Old horse of the year and the only undefeated triple crown winner by sire of sires scat daddy justifies first. Ball's sold for up to six hundred thousand dollars at the recent november sales well. His info mayors were led by the three-time great one. Winning daughter of uncle. mo bast. Who sold for four point. Two million to spendthrift farm justify has covered over eighty grade one winners or dams grade one winners in his first two years at ashford called the team had asked for today to book your mayor while there are still seasons available. Hello this is bill mutt. You're listening to horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network at the quarter pole. The right of a lifetime turning for home in front midnight. Bourbon to the attack notary gibbs way down the side of the tracks in ongo continues to close. There's one for long left midnight. Bourbon comes away with the lead sitting on kgo continues to close here comes sitting on kgo booze up for the league. The sixteenth paul sitting on go up over midnight bourbon and superstock sitting on twenty four over midnight. Bourbon superstock the right of a lifetime. Walk back uruguay went to sitting on go to swoop to group on derby day. Came back to the rear. Skop carnahan a no chance trip. That's what the old sports i. You old harnessed fans out there. The sports i comment line would have said no chance trip for sitting on go in that breeders cup juvenile wheels back in three weeks try and give himself a win around two turns also gets back to the scene of that era koi churchill downs go past the twin spires later later on today race under the lights today as well that breeders cup obviously was at keeneland with tonight right around six o'clock five fifty six eastern time suns down lights are on a churchill downs by time hard. Ben hoffman. Talk about the lightning off of the clark last night. They'll certainly jc. And we'll see now dell romans has to enter should've asked them. This ended up the surgery on corey. Llaneras named on both. I think this is part of the frustration would gamblers and horse players and fans alike different racing jurisdictions have different rules for this Corey lowery is named on both halves of dale's injuries sitting on go and smiley sabotka. They'll also legitimate. Badger entered in the race. His separate ownerships up not coupled with the other two tory lanez named on both here new york. Obviously this is my beat my circuit here in new york. One of these horses would have to scratch. I do not know that to be the rule in kentucky. I'm not sure of dell's allowed to name a different writer before the races today here in new york though corey he was named on both horses. One of them would have to scratch and we don't have to speculate anymore because trainer dale. Romans joins us. Now he's got three in the cage. Jc's got attachment rate up here in new york as well as the discovery morning. Dow happy thanksgiving form doing well. Doing well What's the role down and you have to scratch warranties horses today because you name the same writer now. I can change your second name. Somebody else. a still still gonna lakes gotten crunch time. I still haven't made final decision. I wanna talk jason luce but There's a good chance run all three okay. Very good Sitting on go. Obviously the most prolific of these three. He was a perfect two for two going into the cup. Juvenile the iroquois win one of the more impressive wins on a weekend where speed reign supreme source passed. A lot of worst made a blonde around quality. Horses store like he did. I thought it was a you drink. Slim go with breeder stuff you know. I'm not much of a winery farming up on the radio. That jack was not playing fair. In my opinion and that the brian wasn't only on the speed it was also which goes hand in hand. It was speeding rail. We were hung wide. The whole way i said before you joined us. No chan- the old harness. I would have said no chance trip. I mean he really the way that track was playing the trip. He pulled And you know what he he made a little bit of a run on the far turn But just kind of against it took a lot of money in it. Were you surprised. That's something you don't ordinarily pay attention to. He took a lot money in the breeders cup. He was under ten to one. And when you're looking at a big favourite jackie's warrior. I a lot of people like this horse. And i don't think there's anything to not like about his effort. I mean he didn't he never had a chance really never had a chance. And you're hundred percent right knowing that people did back him. I think because his race was so impressive air court and the fact that he had trained so well. You know all eyes are on you. You can't had and they. Everybody could see how good he was doing. How quickly after the juvenile did you decide to bring him back in. The i know he's had success. He broke his maiden won. The iroquois just three weeks later same scenario here. You have a two months between the european. The breeders cup juvenile. How quickly after the juvenile did you decide to to two point to this walking down to talk to. You just knew that our horse had more anyone. Jason attacks talked about next day. So there's no reason not to running back you know four races to. That's a good foundation going into the triple crown trail. How's he been training now. These training super sources never had a bad day. I got about four or five. Brody's causes over the barn. They all would like to. I mean smelly subotica same way you just get up and go to work their morning. They're sound they're smart. They do things right and just like her daddy did. Let's talk about smiley subotica. A little bit. Second in his debut in a dead heat sprinting. I the day. He broke his maiden in He was on an outside draw. That would kind of that. Keeneland profile didn't really change much and that was opening weekend. It didn't really change much. He was against it in every way he definitely went up. I guess at all and still came on and want to raise a beautiful race. And i think he tries hard time to is numbers. Wise needs to step up a little bit too under his belt. I think that as prime forum to move forward. I know you're always thinking kentucky derby but has an ontario brad You always have some options with one like him. Maybe you go up north of the border And take down that queen's plate next year. Wouldn't that be fun. That's something. I always enjoy watching the races up. queen's plates trimmed on the kremlin canadian racing. So that'd be nice go up and knock that routes def definitely on the radar helmets worn behind us and we can get around the world a little easier than than it has been this year. I didn't see in saratoga this year. That was one of my One of my negative takeaways from the spa this year. We didn't get to spend any time together. I know we didn't get the hang out. Spent spent five off number. You know that's not my stuff. It's not you know we'll talk about that in a minute. Which one of these would corey right you. Have you decided that sitting on go. I mean he's the most accomplished gory frightening. He'll stay on him. I don't wanna do the other one. I'm trying to figure that out. Now's waiting waiting to talk to you. My button gonna get down to some paperwork all right We talked about those who ultimate badger. My man bobby newman likes ultimate badger. A little bit of bob's join me a little later on he's He's one half of his starts. He was behind sitting on. Go in that era coy but he certainly seemed to bounce back from his iroquois effort with a couple of nights starts again just a few weeks apart And he got that went around two turns The second time he tried it last time out right a blue for us so if you haven't watched it go back and watch them. He lost the lead by half a length on laying in the came back on. He ran a great race. He's gonna run big today. Nice horse. I don't know what happened to me last year. He just a in september he just he just never got involved in the race and i really thought he trace it. What's been like You mentioned it briefly the you know the covid nineteen and everything going on. what what. What's it been like for you guys you are. Ucs someone who doesn't like to sit still really like to travel. What your horses and spend the summer in saratoga. You just said you. Five days in the forty day meet. What's been like for you in the barn. It's been like interest hardships on all levels business alaska annually but mostly as mental. It's you know it's this. Game is a tough game and it's hard enough with things are perfect but you know i'm a social person like you. I like to get out. I like to do things like to talk about horses and travel my horses like i liked togas summer as as or trainer in a racing fan. And it's just been a tough long year but it looks like now. We got a little sun office. Vaccine comes well what What's winter planner. We'll be gulfstream. Starting down tomorrow again. Like thinking the logistics of this got fifty horses to move down so i don't know how we dozens of people and we gotta have all tests and they all have to be within five days of arriving there so it takes two days to get your test so really got a three day window. What you got. Make sure everybody gets in and gets Settled in the gulfstream. It's just been for everybody. You know a difficult. I hear him talking with dell romans He's got three point two k. j. c. Today always got that kentucky derby on his mind and his radar Up here in new york. The discovery attachment rate. I notice a horse style that you've been high on since day one. You chase the trail with him. This year he ran really well last time. A churchill getting the money in the allowance. That's a second win and two tries in the slop He's gonna get labeled the wet track horse at some point. I know you do not feel that way about him. You you think the world of this horse he's gonna feel the five today. Yeah it's a short field so good fat five horses but yeah. I've always loved this resource. And he's you know he's just sitting on that you jeffrey. He's one of those sources. I think that you could see coming out of their betrayal. We see every year turned four and hitting the big older horse races in coming. Wanna stop anti capitalist touchy. Wouldn't surprise me if the sources one of them. I thought you know we got him to lead a little bit last time. Maybe do some work. Early get involved. It seemed to really keeping focus. And we'll probably send him other today at least keep him up in the race. It's a good five horses. Good race. But i think he's gonna very well. He's up there with carlos martin. He's handling things for me. I see during colbert's got five different ways to do things but I couldn't send a team up there so carlos. Thanks thanks to him for helping us out. One of the best racing families mourn family at call us as a great job and this was really seemed to enjoy his work. Last time out he was down inside And like you said. I think his best races have been when he's been a little more aggressively handled early and then just feel. The five shouldn't be an issue today now shouldn't be. I don't know what to say to get him out. Kiss ten mind running and see if he can get the job. Done i was thanksgiving was a good down or to sammy order. Some food from locator was terrible. We didn't have a norm bunch of a house full of people at holidays people inherit. She cooks l. time. That was a downer too so we need to stay. Turn around for people like me and you. We like to get out and have a good us i will. Let's get. Let's get the thanksgiving bounce out of the way holidays around the corner. We'll we'll come back with a big buyer on christmas day. Sounds good thanks for calling. I doubt good luck today with everybody in the cage. Ac and discovery. We'll see if sitting on go can take the next step on the kentucky. Derby trail for dell romans and his team down churchill downs. Thanks to dale's. Always both ben huffman and dale romans will receive some apparel from embrace the race dot com. Like all of our guests embrace your passion over embrace the race dot com. We'll take a break when we come back. The industry star of the week presented by stuart. Morris comes up next one only michael blowing. The found that revolt friends farm. This is the equine forum on horse racing radio network. Your home for racing's biggest events forty-six solutions makes technology easy. We manage the day to day. Technology needs of kentucky businesses by offering twenty four seven help desk support infrastructure design and cybersecurity protection to keep your focus on your business. Our residential engineers can design and install media room home theaters and make sure your home wifi network run smoothly with the best feeds available visit forty-six solutions dot com today. Forty six solutions is your technology partner. I tony hey matthew. There's a reason why. Tony steaks and seafood is my favorite restaurant. It's because i wanna feel part of the family. Isn't that right tony. That's right. there's a sign on the wall that i truly believe in. There's always room for one more at our table. We just want you to be part of our family and believe me you will be. It's tony steaks and seafood right across from triangle park visit them at tony steaks and seafood dot com gains way stallion tappin. America's most dominant sire with over eighty great estates winters and more lifetime grade one winners than any siren. The nation recent stars include multiple stakes winner in grade. One victories values various with the lead. Ali's candy trying. Valiants prevails by three quarters of a length in the watts been stirred in two year old sensation. Essential quality winner of the great one. Breeders cup juvenile final furlong of the juvenile sensual quality. Coming forward for the lead. Late ron from keith. Men bind hot rod. Turn into the inside. Sit schaal quality and lewis. I s have won that. Tv breeders cup juvenile in the sales ring yearlings topped both opening sessions of keeneland september including the two million dollar sale. Topper a breach shaper a dream maker tappin standing at gains a message to help keep you safe if doctors told us today that we'd made a breakthrough uncovered nineteen saving thousands of lives. He would rejoice finally a good news day. We feel less afraid that our loved ones would be struck by the invisible enemy. We start to feel so that we could live our lives again. Well a mask docile that we can help protect others by covering our noses amounts which is how the virus mainly spreads masks are a ticket to freedom to be out in the world to getting together back to work back to doing what we want. If we could save lives we would grab that breakthrough with both hands while we wait for vaccine cramped the breakthrough. That's already here out. It's masks on by hand cancel. This is jackie march margin. I love horse racing radio network the best show on planet. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network but sharon bras even turn from their side by side and walk in marrakesh. Come and get them with lucky on the outside sharing a narrow lead coming to the final furlong. She's out getting away by a half. Sharing opens up to be once as that and that lucky bank sharing handy would make a broader sharing in the woods. Twelve under many franko was second lucky but he was third in good spirits. Thirty six point seven twenty nineteen row phillies wondering the edgewood winner. Sharing back for matriarch on sunday at belmont closing day. We'll talk to her training ground motion and just a little bit. Welcome back to the equal and form here on. Hr on the big anthrax to bill filling in for the vacationing baron of the backstretch. Mike pence time now for the industry star of the week presented by stewart marsh. None other than one of my favorite people. Man that has done so much for the after care of our equine warriors. The founder of old friends farm michael blowing michael. Thanks for some time. This morning of yet agree thanksgiving. Did we did anthony. We we fed every horse on the farm. Extra care is for thanksgiving and it was. It was really quiet of course and We had a great time. I really appreciate it. Was such a pleasure going around and happened. The auditor feed these sources. Their carrots for thanksgiving our things. Going down old friends farms throughout this throughout this this year. Well you know we've had to change things around because basically we're tourist destination and we have no tourists now at all were completely closed So that's been difficult financially but the most a lot of our donors really kicked it up. we've been able to bring some nice new horses in so in the springtime. Hopefully everything will be Back to quasi-normal anyway and we'll be able to let people in and they'll be able see a lot of many more of our our new retirees that we've been able to take over the last few much i mean. The good thing is hasn't affected the health and welfare of the of the retirees at all. They're just going about their their routine every day. And it's been part of. It's been a lot of fun talking about some of the new arrivals you just mentioned well. We had a really really good relationship with frank straw and everybody at adena springs. We can kind of their quasi-official a retirement home. So we We just got milwaukee brew and silver max and one of my favorite horses of all time. awesome again and it's really great having awesome again here because we have two of his best children here. We have awesome gem who i know i know you your number and And he's also a fabulous forest and then of course game on dude is a son of awesome again. So i tell people when they when they ask me that The reason we have them here is because of the economy. The the old old guys a house move back in with their kids. So that's what's happened here to. How many horses. We have down at the form now. Well on this farm we have one hundred and forty one. Wow we have. I like to say we have more stakes winners. I think any farm in history and certainly were greatest cop renters. We have the oldest living member of course wanted to bring us cup. Got classic and alphabet soup. He's twenty nine now about this. Hit the three. Oh and we have stormy liberal. Of course one breeders cups Turf sprint twice. We have touch gold rivals touch gold and silver way back from nineteen ninety seven and their terrific rivalry and and serov the longest price source in the history of the belmont stakes. One hundred and forty to fifty so And they're all doing actually knock on what they're all doing really really well and now heading into the winter. They're all really healthy. And if you look good kentucky showing school comes out and does all our practically. Nothing and john park. Dr park over park equine. Does all their does so many things for us with a colleague operations and and all sorts of other things involved with the horse care and never send us a bill. So we're able to provide really really good health care for the animals Because of the generosity so many people in the bluegrass talk about how. How can how can the folks out there donate. What are some of the ways they can donate any Give them give them all info. Sure well we're always open for donations and there's many ways you can do it. You can check out the website which is old friends equine Dot org and that will give you many opportunities. You know some people. We live up on the site. You can see how much it cost. It costs four dollars and twenty five cents per square bale of hay and so and and thirty two dollars a thirty five dollars depending of the week for a fifty pound bags of carrots All the way up to we have a really good relationship now with ellen. J foxwoods who are retiring Their broodmares to us. When they're broodmares retire they'll come dole friends. We've got a similar relationship with bourbon lane stables and we'll probably in another month or two will have a similar relationship with mr oxley with john and debbie oxley over amid wave been supported for a long time. And that's the way you know. They built the they gave us the money to build a paddocks and putting the waters and put in the running shed so that they want to really make sure that their Old mayors have a good place to come when they're breeding days. Were over so that's the way they donate everything up five dollars the people. It had some some racing parties at donate things to us. We have people that have racing memorabilia that we can auction off. We were very active on on bay. Trying to keep the to cash coming in and that's been very very successful. We've angie dickinson. The actress has donated three paintings that were given to her by march everett Ran hollywood park. Low those many years and and we're going to be able to auction knows off so that's the kinds of things. People donate all sorts of things that we try to try to maximize it and then we're also be very careful about where the money goes. Because i really do promise people that we don't waste a penny here. It's all going to make sure your sources Get the retirement that they clearly earned and no pun intended. All of our old friends doing well in a lot of folks. I know a lot of folks that. Listen to the network that that i follow and follow me on social media there at the farm numerous times a year and it's been a little bit of a different year house everybody's down there safe and sound. Yeah yeah i mean. I want to look at the never mind. Half full and half empty. My glasses always overflowing so. There's no reason to got get down and all of this. You just have to adapt. Do what you're supposed to do to make sure you're not spreading the the virus and actually it's been quiet around here and i've been getting a lot of a lot of rest with the diminishing no tours and everything and and i appreciate the horses all over again. It's just really been. It's been a very good in that regard but we missed the people. And i can't wait till reopened it. We get to show him the all the new retirees and some of the older ones when when we reopened in the spring. You're the best. Mike best really really bad. Thank you so much. You got my. We'll talk to you soon. Have a great holiday season. We'll talk to you soon. Great buddy thanks. The incomparable michael blown. What he has done down old friends. Mike was feels either donor restore. It's all over the. But mike was a movie critic for the boston globe and got involved over in the old fair seen up in massachusetts and it has grown into Old friend over one hundred and forty horses in kentucky and overruns cabin creek up in saratoga as well and he just doesn't amazing job and again old friends. Equine dot org to make your donation. Our number one of the equine form could not have ended in better than what buddy mike blowing our to comes up next but first we pause ten seconds for station. Identification you're listening to the horse racing radio network from the rail to your radio. Fierce is the horse racing radio network and probable than global campaign. Tacitus the law behind offense. Who's tried so way in. Big caitlyn. Sunset john velazquez. Authentic has won the long gene breeders cup classic to like the doctor post had booked up on the upside of second pneumatic. Serve the no york herald. Chaz many franko up bow thanks. Welcome to the equine. For of hard nawa is running fast down the center of the course. Tarnow past magical has caught channel maker tar nawa moves on by tar nawa and common keen to win the long gene turf order about stralia looking for a huge upset order of australia. Gets that upset at seventy three zero one. Four pierre charles budo. Who's having white off breeders cup now. Here's anthony stabile our number two of the coin former about the come your way on the big. A anthony veal myfm. He's on vacation. He'll be back for cigar mile day next saturday here on the program. Thanks to our guests in the first half. Ben huffman del romans and michael blowing from old friends farm kickoff hour number two here with graham ocean. Who joins us now. Graham is a busy weekend out east here in the east and out west. Since sharing out for sunday's matriarch at del mar rating west coast. Graham daphne she'll be all thanks for some time this morning here on the platform we are so. I'm up in new york. I'm assuming you're in fair health and actually in medicine florida okay. You've made that. You've made the the southern sojourn running. We're kind of spread out this weekend. So my assistant. Alice went out cellamare. So i came down kid filling in for her. So we're spread a little thin this weekend. We remember from two thousand eleven. The great embrace between you and dell romans After the shackelford. America animal kingdom photo we dallas earlier. He was talking about. You know getting ready to ship south to florida this weekend. you know he's got fifty head going down a gulfstream park. You have outfits up and down the east coast. Sending north-south del delmar. Obviously the covert affects you. It's affect everybody else. I talk about the logistics. And just exactly like you said. You're done in florida alice's out west Just has to be a logistical nightmare. At this point you know. It isn't it isn't i mean. I'm incredibly lucky that i got a crew That can go on the road a very willing to go on the road alice's kind of traveling over year so she's got a bit of a system down she went to england with sharon Lauren mendenhall who gallops every day. She was fair hill. She she shipped with the philly. So i've you know you can't do this without really good crew behind you so i'm very fortunate. And of course maggie. Kennedy's home watching the hallmark. Christmas movies holding down the fort. Yeah all right so sharing Another solid campaign For her after the breeders cup win last year I i guess royal ascott was was kind of on everybody's mind a nice return and tap-in you have made the trip over to ascott this temple city for our friend For the feds and our friends that own. This temple city was that like this year. Not being able to go with her. Yeah it was definitely an odd feeling. Kind of disappointing sailing. I think as much as anything. I was disappointed for the ownership. Because i've i've had a chance to do it and they haven't and it's one those things that if you get to on johnny like that you want to be part of it and you want everybody to get the pleasure out of it. That's that's a big part of why you do it. You know Obviously he wants to run well. But you also want to take in the the racing and the the ambience some and all that so you know. I felt incredibly lucky that we could do it again. I couldn't have done it without alice. And it was great to be a part of it but my disappointment was more for the ownership group that they didn't get to go when you make that decision to go over there. I think you kinda know obviously with the experience from this temple city that you're gonna miss some time you're gonna miss some races here in the states but Obviously if the connections feel important to go over there she came back. She didn't really miss As much time of some of the horses that travel over europe and come back miss And she ran really well in the edgewood. She's kind of had pointed campaign this year. I assume that was by design. Knowing that ascott was going to be smack in the middle of the year and You wanted to keep afresh throughout the year. Yeah i mean we knew that we were going to miss it. Chunk of the summer The trip out there. It's not so much going out there. That's tough but it's coming back top you have to. You can't fly back out of england you'd have to go into your you either fly out of germany front i find. That's a really tough trip for them. Coming back But she handled it really well. No i'm so lucky and to the back at gains way and wellman they've never put any pressure to run so we gave him plenty of time to that. And you know. I couldn't have been happy with how she found out of it. Obviously yeah and that was leads to my next question. No pressure to run. She's won her last five in a row here stateside Just the loss at ascott and she ran really well at ascott Along the lines of no pressure not really a breeders cup race for her. I guess so a matriarchal really the next logical spot for her you will. Ideally we would have gone security to kaitlin. That was kind of a full goal. If you like she came out of the race at churchill. A little footseoul I've struggled with with her feet since last year she. She just has slightly oddly made and she tends to the very easily And this really flared up. After she went to church she'll so we ended up having to get kyrie to But i feel like. I've really got back now. How she was full and You know this is the next logical step. Obviously it's it's a big step because she's gonna run against old for the first time but you know she's kind of the state to her career when she she needs to be ready to do that so and it certainly doesn't seem like you have to worry i mean i. Of course there are always inherent Worries when you're going to a new course but she's one She's won run well over the turf and track at saratoga laurel santa anita churchill and ascott so I know real concern especially the fact that she did win race out in southern california. I'll be on a different course me. She seems to be one of those forces that you don't really have to make excuses pool you know she's. She puts herself in a good position in the race. And you know up until now. She's been good enough to overcome any issues and doesn't have to take a restaurant with her. So you know. Part of that too is a disposition. I mean she's just she's such a kind easy philly to be around and just such a pro really plan to keep her around and training next year. Oh i hope so. Yes i mean that would certainly be in the plan. Yeah right talking with trina graham motion. Who has sharing tomorrow in the grade. One matriarch tackle the phillies in as for the first time. We see her name. And some of the other entries as well earlier on the matriarch card on sunday wooten asset in the cecil b. The mill Boy he did not have a. He has not had the best racing luck or the best trips in his first starts here stateside. No and ironically you know one of the reasons sailboat. Him over here was because we wanted to get him on firm ground and he's got nothing but soft ground. Got here so and honestly. I feel like he's handled it well but i think this gives him enough to run on a on a firm turf course which is Which i'm looking forward to. Yeah manny franko gonna rottweilers time the pinnacle bog and then that bogged on four weeks later certainly should be different Different conditions today out whether turf meets the surf talk about your relationship with manny frankel. You're a guy that the barn really started riding him. Oh almost immediately. When he would ship main man he would write them more. You and stuff and then you know you got him his first breeders cup when you guys teamed up with charing last year talking about your relationship with manny. I mean look. I feel like manny's a little unlucky. Because he came around in the year. I read and jose and and he's he's lived in the shadow a little bit but i think he's very much on a par with the guys now You know i. I have a great deal of confidence in him And i just. I think it's remarkable or its meet. Let's say that to to see how he's progress over the last couple of years. And i couldn't be happier that he's been riding sharing know it was a shame for manny that He couldn't go to england Because of the whole kobe You know. I think he might have written her a little differently. In england having known hurry might have been placed a little more forwardly Not necessarily not knock on a shame. He gave her a great ride. But i just think manny knowing. That philly is a big plus. Yeah certainly Certainly helpful Invisible gal is entered Out west and she make the trip out west. She's gonna run tomorrow here at the big a no. She did not make the chip out with. She'll be scratch today. You know we through the fourteen hole in the breeders cup coming back into the thirteen hold out west and it just didn't make sense to ship all the way out there for that so this is kind of plan b. And i'm i think it's probably worth it for the better. Jose gets to write a back. Which is a big plus So you know. I feel good about running tomorrow. She'll be here in. Russia runs into a a good-looking second starter from beaumont. Love struck you. Youtube certainly seem to That's certainly seems to be the run of the race tomorrow up. i think anyway in the tappin. I mean she hasn't done much wrong. This philly you know. Maybe the cut was a little stretch. I thought she was really disadvantage thing on the outside. It kinda cuts from being able to get in the rate But you know this is a this is a more realistic thoughtful. Talk training ground motion. So graham one of the things. You are one of the great ambassadors of the sport especially on social media. I think a lot of people save the save the idiots. Tell you the stick to horse racing. I think you are one of the better ambassadors That we have especially as voice on social media. The games had an unusual year Earlier in the year I think some strides remain in early march. To kinda get this game pointed again in the right direction. We didn't miss a car year Even with the cova outbreak On your guy that runs your says you. You certainly didn't seem like the stable missed. Miss much of a beep over there to talk about this year in general and for me somebody like me. Who's been around it my whole life like you. I feel like i'm very hopeful. After you like this yeah. I agree i mean. I think we've been incredibly fortunate to keep racing. I mean we may be missed a month of so back in early spring. But you know. I mean a lot of people deserve a lot of credits or keeping us going. In and the fact they were able to pull up the breeders cup and things remarkable Having said that you know it hasn't been easy. I mean i'm doing some things this year that i'm very uncomfortable with we run host in toronto for example. I can't send any help to canada When when we ran the balance in the spring. I wasn't able to send any of my help so i'm incredibly lucky that david duncan took the wheel. Somebody in new york and and really you know. That's not something that i normally do. It's a bit out of my comfort. That i couldn't have done it without somebody like like david and then rene has handled my house up in canada. So look it's been here awkwardness. I feel like you know even You know with my own health. I've worried about my own helps. Well being and i worry about my my guys getting on the road But everybody stepped up. Nobody's complained I feel very fortunate. I think we're incredibly lucky and racing. We've been able to keep going when you see what's going on the rest of the country and how much some people suffering and you talk about i. The thing that gives me hope is again. Just somebody that grew on on on the backs. Traction a racetrack kid if you will you you got a couple of racetrack kids of your own. So you know where. I'm coming from your senate horse. The dave dell's dallas on earlier he talked about. How a catchment. Ray was running into discovery. Today he came up to call us. Martin you know i. I know what's going the other way. As well caller had that philipe bianchi for my friend jay center out. And tommy mr care for it in the anti-grand everybody. Yeah we're all you guys are all competing for the same wins in the same money. But you're also helping each other along the same time at a time where everybody could use a little help. Yeah isn't that the unique thing about sports. I mean the fact that you know as competitive as we will Whether johnson the judge from Or portraying on the backstretch. I mean they were all incredibly competitive. I do think as a whole we like to look out for each other. And i think that's really you know that's really comes alight this year where people are gonna be on the call for for each other. Yeah no question about it. Everybody's really good job. Just pitching in and keeping the keeping. The wheels on the bus go round and round. I guess is Is probably not the most eloquent. Probably the best way to put a gram dr sometime this morning. Best of luck around the country Next couple of days enjoy the holiday season. I'm sure we'll talk to you soon. Thanks for having me got grand motion. He's got sharing tomorrow in. That matriarch outweigh the turf surf closing weekend. The churchill closing weekend at delmar as well the rapid a couple of great ones. The hollywood derby today the matriach tomorrow. We'll take a break when we come back our own. Bobby newman could hear bobby with me. Each and every wednesday thursday and friday on race day presented by twin spires from three to six pm eastern friday night on the weekends stakes premiums on the buyer bathroom. Six to seven eastern. In fact we encourage you take a listen to the weekend stakes preview. Podcast horse racing radio dot net when we wrap the equine form and just about forty five minutes or so when we come back. Bobby's jump on. We'll talk about a couple of those great ones out west and let him pick one more he likes to talk about. Bobby's been on a pretty good role stakes races as of late will see if he has any kind of good tidbits for us this morning. You're listening to the forum on. Hr woodford fee which edition merges with technology family owned since nineteen forty and providing exceptional customer. Service would feed specializes in the highest quality feed. He's the only the finest ingredients to ensure optimal nutrition for your horses. In addition would feet can help with all your farm needs including field seed fertilizer. And we control to whether your horses sprinting around the race track or has a folder fireside. Count on woodford to provide the quality nutrition necessary to perform at the highest level woodford fee for sales kentucky catholic boy one of only three american three year old colts in history to win great ones on both dirt and turf including the immortal secretary. A six time greeted stakes winner from ages. Two to four. He was the fastest three year. Old has crop over ten furlongs in foal to catholic boy. The damn skydivers sold for nine hundred fifty thousand dollars. Duals surface grade one winner catholic board standing at claiborne farm churchill downs host their one hundred thirty i fall meet running through sunday. November twenty nine th highlights include the one hundred forty six running of the great one. Clark presented norton healthcare on black friday november twenty seven and a second stars with tomorrow program on saturday november twenty eighth featuring the great to kentucky jockey club and gray goldenrod in total the fall meet showcases ten stakes races. Eight of those graded offering purses of nearly one point eight million dollars big money big fields october twenty fifth to november twenty nine at churchill downs score enter you. Listen to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse. Racing radio network decorated invader getting closer and second get spoken. The lead is now two and a half. Mike decorated and mater in second than ever dangerous over miami and domestic spending and the field is trash it is get spoken on the inside. Decorated invader on the outside on the back of the package domestic spending. Who is putting a late run here. It's against smoking. Decorated invader domestic spending decorated invader has taken the lead of the strategy at east three for three year old decorating the beta the winter. It was closed. Second between the pacesetter get spoken and domestic spending my main man. Johnny i on the call hall of fame at the spa decorated invader look the first first win since later on today in that grade. One hollywood derby out at delmar. Welcome back to the forum. You're on h. R. r. n. Ford bringing bobby numerous time. Now for the spotlight want to remind that is no better time to read and race in kentucky kentucky bred horses have topped the leading sire list each of the last eleven years in dominate the standings once again in twenty twenty leaving the way is into mischief was already set north american single season projects earnings record in twenty twenty clipping. The previous mark set by kentucky bred stallion tap in addition to kentucky's record-breaking sire power lucrative incentives. More than one hundred seventy million dollars has been distributed kentucky brinson two thousand and six and personally have more than one hundred and eighteen million dollars a kentucky's tracks this year. It means there's no better time to breeden ration- kentucky for more information on basing your third operation in the blue grass state visit kentucky breads dot com from kentucky. Breads to a california bred. Bobby newman my co-host. You're on the horse. Racing radio network. Most hours of the week joins us now from the south florida studios. Good morning. mr newman. How are you today doing well. My friend has everything in new york. Well we can't clean everything's good Had a fun show so far this morning all about the teamwork The horsemen shown each other and the race. Track down kentucky of showing each other through this unusual year You and i know all about that. We've been doing race day in the weekends together for the better part of nine months now and we've never met bounded change at some point and i'm guessing win Things get back to normal. Covert wise and people are allowed at the race tracks and new york. You'll probably see me up there. And i look forward to that. I look forward to that Bobby sending me inappropriate text messages at twelve fifty four in the morning and by an appropriate. I mean a hero shopping benson hers. Desktop ever had any sandwiches from the. That's just an appropriate. Do guy at five to one But anyway i digress we got some good stakes action. A couple of the bigger tracks given it one last go this weekend del mar and churchill closing their doors and and briefly a place. That's near and dear to your heart closing forever Called a you're the voice called the for a decade In front of the screen for another five or six years down the give us a couple of thoughts about called is. They closed their doors today for the final time. Well it's sad when any race track closes at stores but When you work at a track for as long as i did It really hits home. It was situation Back in twenty fourteen where churchill downs made the decision to basically focus on casino gaming and not and not racing at calder and it made sense from a money standpoint. It didn't feel good if you if you were working at calder but if it makes total sense the the casino brings in a lot more money than the race. Track did But the race track Was near endured a people's hearts especially here in south florida From all the way back in nineteen seventy one One it was the first established by stephen calder. All the way through I think june thirtieth of twenty fourteen. And that's when basically gulfstream started running year round or operating the racing year round lot of great racing A lot of great horses that went through a lot of two year old developed. A call her the that went on to bigger and better things a lot of really good horses. That at some point raced it called her and maybe went on To national greatness princess rooney who was the first ever breeders cup distaff winner Began her career. Calder smile raised at calder. Beginning of this career spend a buck. The nineteen eighty five derby winner. His first several racists were were called her for trainer. Kim gamble lottie see two year old. Like blind luck and mutual macho man who started their careers called or were sold privately and went on to greatness nationwide. Of course blind luck. Winning the kentucky oaks among things and neutral macho man winning the breeders cup classic few few years later i seen horses like orientate. Cajun be cherokee run Big drama all winning stakes races during the summit of speed at called her and going on to win the breeders cup sprint so a really really good families. Maybe the the best horse i saw during the time i was there lost in the fog as fast as sprinter as we've seen in the last twenty years and we got to see a couple times a called her one once and he lost once and It was a fun place to be. I'm sure it was never got a chance of drove by drove by where they raised a one of the times. I was down in florida. I never had a chance to Design was a place that you have a lot of fond memories of and a lot of people including yourself and be set to see go this afternoon. Let's try and cheer you up. And then the nation in the folks that love called some winners We covered fourteen races last night on the weekends. Stakes preview presents my rebecca again after the forum wraps in about thirty five minutes on over the horse racing radio dot net. Give it a listen Let's talk a little bit about that. Hollywood derby to talk about a couple of degrade ones. We've got a couple of grade. One left this weekend Of course great. One cigar mile next saturday at the big This race today And there's there's there's three stakes today to tomorrow at del mar is they. They they wrap up the bing crosby and the twenty twenty three to twenty twenty season This race today has a little bit of the east coast. West coast feel You got a couple of christoph. Clermont runners decorated invader in gluco heading out west along with one for chad brown. The mystic spending field of thirteen. It wraps up the saturday card nine race card. Ten tomorrow Let's talk about this. Hollywood derby a little bit. Bobby well to me. It's one of the more evenly matched races of the weekend of those states that we looked at. And you mentioned it's east coast versus west coast For the the home court advantage. Smooth like straight for trainer. Mike mccarthy Seventy two on the morning line one. Three of his last four starts including the twilight derby accent anita. He's two for two on the turf at delmar scotto in other horses. Run very well at del mar and is up and coming. He was second to smooth like straight in that twilight. Dirty storm the court. Who of course was the upset. Winner of the breeder's cup juvenile back in twenty nineteen. He actually a pretty good second behind smooth like straight in the great. Three la hoya at delmar. The only time he's tried the turf but they're taking on some pretty good runners from the east coast and a lot of these horses that have been running against each other and racist like the saratoga derby invitational or the hall of fame have decorated vader. You have guzzo in also in there. You have domestic spending on paper. It looks very even between those five six. Eighty seven runners. I just happen to think. It's just a gut feeling that the turf racing on the east coast this year has been stronger than that on the west coast now. I'm sure there are people on the east coast to say well. That's every year you can say the turf grazing is better on the. I don't necessarily think that's true. I think with the reduction in horses in the southern california and the person's not being as high in southern california are out on the east coast and specifically in new york. You get more horses on the east coast. You get the better horses on the east coast and for the most part you're getting better writers. Maybe not every but the the jockey colony you know the the top ten on the east coast. I think is much stronger than the top ten on on the west coast right now. So i'm leaning a little bit toward the resources that are coming from the new york area. We've already seen the new york runners doing very very well As they shipped over to del mar and not only the new york lenders. But we've seen the new york jockeys seemingly winning everything this week at donmar joel. Rosario one aboard ark low. Yesterday i read. Ortiz is one a few races manny. Franko is one at least a racer. Too out of del mar. So these guys is dominating out there and at this distance of a mile. And i don't see any reason that domestic spending can't run another good race. He's three for four in his career. Last time we saw him he was an upset winner of the saratoga derby invitational and you and i both agree. He shouldn't have been seven to one that day. He was way bigger of a price than he really should have been. He's never run a bad race in his career. He's had time off since that race. That race was in mid august. Normally i would think that you know. He couldn't eat a race but being that he's trained by chad brown. I would think that he'll fire a huge shot off. This layoff as i mentioned by ortiz has already won a few races at del mar. He knows what it's like out there. He's back aboard domestic spending five to one on the morning line. I think that's the way i would have to key. Yeah he's five to one in the morning. I thought it was the suit chad. The chat on the to Clermont horses decorated invader and and goof. Oh as well feel like at the mile in eighth decorated invaders probably completely scratch and the one time that they faced at the mile neat he beat domestic spending. But i think that was just more of a trip domestic spending last in a field of five and a faceless race and decorated invader was just sitting to the loose leader. Now get smoke and came back and turn the tables and the hill on decorated invader at the mile on the yielding. This is going to be a little bit different today. Nine along some firm ground Should be a very interesting renewal of this great one. Hollywood derby tomorrow. The matriarch is the great one just Full disclosure my man. I don't know if you were listening earlier. But graham ocean Joined us just for you. did Wooten asset as part of that leap. Pick five pick four and they have a mandatory pick six payout tomorrow at del mar as well. It's a fifty cent wager out there And they've been waiting to get wooten asset on some firm ground and he's going to get that tomorrow. That goes where seven reached number. Nine goes that matriarch and sharing for grandma's gonna try to older fillies chat rounds out blow out and and via dera and tama. Here juliette foxtrot comes in from brad cox again little east coast west coast and is another one I may east coast bias coming out. But i think the east coast sources are hold the edge here as well and east coast. Horses have just been been so good. And and i'm i'm really interested in seeing what a philly like sharing does i'm interested in i. I'm interested in watching via dera seeing if she can continue her good ways we haven't seen her in a little bit a little bit of time It's it's a really interesting renewal. First of all pace-wise you have. What looks like a clear front runner in blowout and the funny thing was blow out when he when she began. Her career was not a front running type. She was a filly who is definitely able to close and Close well but they've she's turned into a front running type now. She's getting flabby and pratt for the first time. I don't know what that means as far as her trip because practice never been honor He is in my mind by far the best rider. That's based in southern california right now But she's going from one hall of fame writer to a guy who could be eventually a hall of fame rider. John velazquez has been the normal right or blowout. He is not out there to ride these races. You wrote in kentucky this weekend so floppy and pratt rights for the first time. While i was the two two one favourite when she got beat by videira and the grade three noble damsel last time out back in september at belmont bid. There is just. She has been amazing. And it's not so much not the she's been amazing. Her last two starts the timing of the rides. The joel rosario has put on via dera in both the della rose and the noble damsel has been like a clinic. It's uncanny how he and she know where the wire is. Because that's the only time that via derozan in front is at the wire Winning by a neck in both of those races I think she's going to have some pace to run out once again on sunday. I think that if she runs the same type of race sunday that did the noble damsel. She's good enough to win. She went to mile in one thirty two flat which is super fast but it was a turf course of all that was playing fast. Still very very impressive seventy-two two on via dera the shortest price. You're going to see the forest and she's been in the states but she's gonna be tough now that being said the three year old fillies sharing. Who's trying her elders for. The first time has done almost nothing wrong in her career. She has five wins. A second and a third from seven career starts and her leaving the edgewood last time out of churchill against three old phillies was super impressive. If she runs like that again she definitely could challenge. Dera i just you know i. It's one of those things where i don't think i can single one of them. I'm hoping in the horizontal place to find something else earlier. Because i i would hate to leave one of those two phillies out there. Both super super good one or two one. Maybe two more you like today anywhere around the country or tomorrow well. i'm. I'm really hoping that we get to see Let's see. I'm really hoping that we finally get to see. Love struck run in the tappan. On sunday at aqueduct. She's not going to be a big price. she's seven to five on the morning. I don't know what's going on with this philly this bill. My trainee was very impressive. Breaking her maiden serra toga at a mile and a sixteen. She's been entered a two or three times since then in stake races. That in my mind were tougher than what she's going to be in sunday and i thought she had big chances in those racist and she scratched and haven't really read about it. There hasn't been a story. i you know what. Obviously it wasn't anything so bad that she's not still being entered and still training I think you just have to kind of put your trust and bill motte saying you know what when she shows up. She's going to be fit and ready to go. I thought her maiden name was great. I don't see why she can't better now in november than she wasn't her debut in september. I'm i don't know if it's going to be something that we can really make a lot of money on But i'm really looking forward to watching. Love struck come back to the racist. We both like bill. Mott's the discovery today for the door. Four door on that. I'll tell you what the discovery today anthony for. A five horse race is about as good a five horsfield is. You're going to get you have one long shot on the morning line. That's roulston and he's going to be a major player at least early on in the waste because he's got a lot of speed He's horses been running in south florida gulfstream. And call during this last one was that called her in wire-to-wire fashion. I don't think he's quite good enough to beat this field but he certainly good enough to be there in the early going. The other four are very very good morning. Line favorite shared sense as to his last three starts both of them grade. Three efforts the indiana derby and the oklahoma derby. Monday morning quarterback coming off a big win at laurel going a mile in any last time out went one forty eight five very fast very solid time a mile and attachment rate got back to his winning ways. He hasn't won since he broke his maiden back in march at aquit up they've been trying to basically in graded stakes most of his career and he's been running pretty well against sources like max bilden an art collector and even ran into derby behind authentic. Well they put him back in an allowance race. Got him a confidence builder last. I'm out and he got back to winning ways. But for is it the oro the way he came back off that long. Layoff last time out to belmont. I thought was great. He was ten to one. He didn't break all that well and he just put it all together i to starts his career very very good. I don't know what happened to them when they tried him in the ramps and he was only five to one that day and he basically ran for about seven furlongs of that mylan eighth and then just packed it in. Obviously something was amiss with him because that race was december of nineteen. He didn't return to the races until october of twenty twenty But he returned to the race is better than when he left that race off. The layoff was super super. That i know we only won by a neck But that was a good field of older horses that day. Fast time mile and a sixteenth. One minute forty. One seconds flat if he runs that same type of race today in the discovery or even improved. Second start off layoff. He's easily as good if not better than anyone in this field. And he probably won't be favourite. He's two to one on the line. I trust in morning line. Winemaker david eric. Going up in new york he laid shared sense to three two two favorite. Because he's got a couple of great states. When i can definitely see that but force the oral in my mind is usually as good as the morning. Line favorite if not better yeah. I'm with you man for the door for us in discovery valley. Thanks to some time this morning. We'll talk to you on wednesday for race day. A little gulfstream and a little tampa bay. And all right buddy. Great weekend right. Only bobby newman. Thanks for joining us for a little bit here on this saturday. Want take a break. Come back trade. Hugh mcmahon join us. Just got the one thousand and one thousand first wins of his career. We'll talk about that milestone when we return. This is the forum on. Hr and adena springs stallions macho macho man tough sound durable a stakes winner at three four five and six who competed in all three triple crown races before turning three years old and captain stellar career with a determined victory. In the breeders cup. Classic over champions will take charge and declaration of war feet. Muccio macho man is produced to first crop grade. One winners one on dirt. Mo jo stone pegasus world top five lakes in one. Enter and the california bred macho unusual all the way in the rodeo drive. The number one north american sire by twenty twenty average earnings per runner is blue. Joe macho man standing at adena springs championship season returns to gulfstream park this december or breadsticks action returns with the claiming crown. The fort lauderdale grade one. Three million dollar pegasus world cup stakes. The grade one. Florida derby at much much more. Stay in on the action from the comfort of your mobile phone with the. I bet at the official app of gold stream part. I that offers. Ai predicted picks high definition. Livestream racist replays betting from the palm of your hand in nineteen ninety-three. Dr john west showed the occurs during exercise. When blood vessels in the lungs rupture this is due to stress caused by high blood pressure on the inside of the vessels and strong suction forces on the outside only flare ups. Lasix us together or alone have been clinically proven to reduce the lakes works by reducing the high internal pressures and flares shifts worked by reducing the suction forces on the outside see the science at strips dot com justify a four-time grade. One winner eclipse champion three-year-old horse of the year and the only undefeated triple crown winner by sire of sires scat daddy justifies first bowls sold for up to six hundred thousand dollars at the recent november sales well. His info mayors led by the three-time great one. Winning daughter of uncle. Mo bast who sold for four point two million dispensary farm justify has covered over eighty grade one winners or dams grade one winners in his first. Two years in ashford called the team at ashford today to book your mayor while there are still seasons available. Okay this is. Carl nascar. I listened to hr in. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network turning for home now got a flat. Habur kicks on hubbard. Turns in the to link lead polish gal. The center of the track channel level for that funnel furlong polish galilee outside ghana plot hammered unbelie inside splendor gallardon inside their backing off. There is midnight crossing final sixty mile. And it's polished gal. Just transponder gallon the outside. Which gal is it. Published gal splendor. Gal could be win. Number one thousand. Twenty you mcmahon polish gal splendor gallon the photo of the outside and got a flat however was third. Dave rodman call a week ago. Polish a nose down on the line next guest but one thousand training win of his career. Humid man joins us now from the mid atlantic. Hey you anthony be there on the equine forum. Congratulations next time this morning on the program. Oh thank you very much. I'm sure a lot of our listeners. Don't remember the bug boy. Hugh mcmahon who was buzzing around the big apple in the winter of ninety two and ninety three talk a little time in the saddle well I remember an agent. By the name of steve juliano. Taking me in it was it was a it was a kind of a strange transition. I i went from tampa bay and Johnny velazquez adjust finished his bug. And i think it was one of the contenders and he was writing for him and They were looking for but boy and so they called me up there and I like i say. I got i got hooked up with steve juliano and Weighing and government. One of those exercises and angel cordero and just a strong colony of riders. The jerry bailey. Chris out me julie krone you know apprenticeship in in the midst of those riders. You know you you end up walking away with something so Experience was really good there. Yeah i remember i remember. My dad was an agent back dan. He had Julio possessor and then fell berta leone and yeah you had a good winter. Here bob claris. That's right. I forgot about the populace. Arison steve giuliani connection Almost sixty winners in your career Needless to say a lot more success as a trainer. Congratulations one thousand wins. That's a. that's a pretty neat milestone. Yeah yeah very thankful so. I i remember your dad In holyoke zillow that. That's a blast from the pie. I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is. You stopped writing in the late. Nineties started training about six or seven years later But things have really picked up this past decade. You've won A little over nine hundred of thousand and twelve thousand and one now right one one yesterday. Yeah yep divine into on the second thousand. what How'd you get into the training side of the game You know it's really funny. I would exercise writing scott lake and And i would go. You know all over the place. We all went to florida and i saw the chiefs. I wouldn't jerkins. He was on the back of these pony. And i've not seen him for years because they used to ride racists for him he he kind of gave me a pretty good shot there when i had the bugging new york and And he asked me. Why wasn't you know training or why wasn't doing an assistant job. And i didn't really think anything of it. And then that following year the the assistant for the the lake division in maryland. He moved he got another opportunity and it was the last thing. Got lakes that to me You wanna go. Be my assistant in maryland and i always you know stymied. I was like well i. I don't know anything about won't ever been on the back of a horse but is like oh you'll be okay and i remember just kinda like you know jumping right into the thick of it and They to like take my trainers test. I i read a little bit of the condition. Book the buck. And i think i just just passed the test with the skin of my teeth and Yeah it was one of those kind of you know when you it's like when you're riding racist as boy you kinda. You got the full cup. Blinkers and you only see so much of the race. And then they'll you know. Then you go to like the three quarters and then you go to the cheeses and then the blink off and you can see the entire race you know the more you right and It was kinda like that with the the training. I just had very narrow perspective and you know the more time i spent on the ground. The more i was being the you know the hung is is the scott lake. The more i. I absorbed having been a race rider and obviously still Exercise rider it has to give you an edge to be able to get you. Still you still get on your horses. Hugh occasionally if only the righteous doesn't show up you know. Sometimes i'll i'll throw my chops and get on there. That is to give you a big edge right to be able to get on top of them and actually you know. I'm sure you know. Exercise writers usually are very good at conveying their message to the trainers. But i can't imagine anything's better than being able to experience the message yourself. I did you know that. That dynamic is definitely Necessarily the you know. Being on the ground i i learned a lot being on the ground you know the observation of a host and i scott like kind of train. My i took the horse and not so much variety you can see how the horse is balanced and you know and and how is moving and how it comfortably and stuff and Yeah but the something you know significantly more when you're on the back of a horse and the horse is telling you something and you can't really identify from the ground or you know when you get the vet over to have a look at it so yeah it does give you an edge. You think back to that day when you're on and getting ready to jogger gallup one or breeze one and you see the chief and the chief puts the team head and then scott comes with that the suggestion in job offer you ever think back to that day and say to yourself. Wow i've one thousand races. Now as a trainer i i you know this this past decade or so been well. You know god so good to me you know. He's just i. I'm a christian. I you know. I some hundred and thirty nine. You know my life is is all and he's this is the past got you walk and you make plans. But god directs them. And i've seen his hand in so many aspects and areas of my life along the way what would seem to be a a disastrous situation. You know something beautiful. Come from that and That's kind of the way it's been you know we we go through the peaks and valleys in life. You know you go through the highs and lows but I it's like. I take little history call and and i think wow i've i've always been closed. I've always been fed. I've always you know shelter and you know that's true with my family and You know what to the good times and the bad times. It's it's all good ultimately it's good you know. Even what would seem to be bad looks together so good so working on the next hour. Thankful right now. Very appreciative of what i have. That's great you looking forward to working on the next thousand. i'm you know. I'm grateful for the for the industry seems to be under threat and You know i just. I just think you know. We need to do a little more in. Need to be more vocal. You know in what we do here. You know i've i've witnessed these people standing outside the track team protests. You know but i. I can't emphasize enough. You know how much cash goes on to a thoroughbred on a race track. You know the the the pests factor you know the love. And i if if he was to bring one of these people in cdn can tap program that involved you know fresh stole of hey or or shaving every day You know clean more the buckets you know four times a day The you know. The food is a high-profile. You know food program and know the dentist blacksmith every every month. There's just so many got that just working alongside you. Should they be anything wrong there on amd and you know how many creatures get this kind of treatment and not. You're not to mention the love. People end up getting attached to these courses. And you know there's a relationship. And i think god designed they've they've been a compliment to since the beginning of time well said well said you. Well said well. Here's the continued success. Good luck working on that next thousand and will Sure we'll talk to you down the line all right. Thanks for having me you got. Hugh mcmahon celebrated one thousand win of his career. Like all of our guests. You'll receive some apparel from embrace embrace your passion over an embrace. The race dot com. We'll take one more break. Come back and wrap this final november edition of the equine forum on the horse racing radio network. Your home for racing's biggest events stretch with spun. Durant galwan coming to get full stunned. Around drifting the lead both chaperoning inside a second beaches made its way up into third spot rotter and spun to run the mile by three. The half legs gains way. Stallions spun to run in the grade. One breeders cup dirt mile. He defeated a loaded field that included multiple grade one winners omaha. Beach and improbable. His brilliant speed figures were among the fastest of any three year old and a mile or more will earning multiple triple digit buyers up to one ten and running a zero on the thorough grass. Five times spun to run hails from the legendary dance sire line a multiple greatest dates winner millionaire and breeders cup champion. Great milers make great. Stallions spun to run standing at gains wet. Forty-six solutions makes technology easy. We manage the day to day. Technology needs of kentucky businesses by offering twenty four seven help desk support infrastructure design and cyber security protection to keep your focus on your business. Our residential engineers can design and install media rooms home theaters. And make sure your home. Wifi network run smoothly with the best feeds available visit forty-six solutions dot com today. Forty-six solutions is your technology partner in the business of horses in the world's only credited equine business program the university of louisville equine business program the university of louisville has a legacy of excellence educating and developing industry leaders for over thirty three years classes are taught by industry experts in a state of the art facilities located in the heartland of america's equine industry university of louisville equine business program. When it comes to horses we mean business for more information visit business dot louisville dot edu slash equine visionary design this arro- performance and imaginary technology. That's lexus when every detail. Every moment and every emotion is crafted by lexus. It leads to amazing experience. Artistry than inspires design. That compels an engineering. That excites this. Is mike pana. And i can tell you personally. As alexis owner the enjoyment you'll experience from driving any of the lexus model line is unparalleled. Visit the lexus. Door of lexington today. And see what i've been talking about for nearly fifteen years. The people truly make the difference. Lexus has also been a longtime supporter of the horse industry with the keeneland shop located at the lexus store of lexington and through their sponsorship of keeneland lexus raven run stakes each fall. Talk horses and experience. Amazing in your brand new. Lexus is orlando. Take a listen to the horizon racing radio network. You're listening to the equine forum on the horse racing radio network. Welcome back. don't forget. Wrap up about three minutes here. You can head over the horse. Racing radio dot net. Take a listen to the weekend stakes preview presented by nyerere bets. Bobby newman and i. Fourteen races in all akwa churchill and mar the latter two wrapping up their meets this weekend tomorrow to be exact called her and all the great memories down in the south florida track for well almost fifty years. They're gonna close for the final time today. Best of luck to all the horse men and women who will scatter about most will stay down there. But i'm sure Everybody sad to see them. Close the doors over a call. The now known as gulfstream park west The best of everybody who was involved and to see the place. Go our poll question this morning. Your favorite post breeders cup racing weekend and as he did sixteen times in a row cigars. Fending them all off. This is a type poll this morning good job. Hr nation thirty five point. One percent has cigar mile day. Thirty three point three percent clark weekend. Thirty one point six percent santa anita opening day. We have a comment. Willow creek farm says clark weekend to food stars of tomorrow looking for the next generation. That's today twelve races down at churchill. Downs today post times. One o'clock you can catch all of the act and churchill downs action on america's day at the races today and we'll be back live and in color call it back live on wednesday with race day presented by twin spires bobby and i'll have action from gulfstream park and tampa bay downs park opening data's wednesday even going friday saturday opening days. As of late this year they're gonna open up on. Wednesday cart should be out today and look forward to getting into the gulfstream park action. A little tampa bay downs action as well and count down the days to week away from the cigar mile about a month to opening day out at the great race place next all guests this morning. Ben huffman trainers del romans. Graham motion and hugh mcmahon. I'll very own. Bobby newman and our star the week. The by stuart morris old fronts fawn founder michael bowen old friends equine dot org to donate to the best charities around. They do a lot for our eek retired. Equine warriors thanks to you. Hr tuning in hope of really had a safe and healthy thanksgiving enjoy the rest of the weekend. Enjoy all of the great action across the country today for a producer. Pena on the big an extreme. I'll i'll be lucky night. Help you all photo finishes talk to you.

kentucky breeders cup Ben hoffman churchill clark john velazquez two year three weeks Bobby newman Dale romans seventy year anthony stabile bodey south florida Namely gulfstrea new york delmore alice park keelan eight weeks kgo