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"tug fork" Discussed on Aerial America

Aerial America

03:02 min | 1 year ago

"tug fork" Discussed on Aerial America

"This may look like a medieval fortress but it's actually the oldest prison facility in kentucky built in eighteen eighty nine locals locals often call the state penitentiary the castle on the cumberland it houses kentucky's only death row. It's execution. Chamber was used as recently as two two thousand eight. If this prisons walls could speak they would have plenty of colorful tales to tell that's because the state pen dates back to a time when many of kentucky's rural communities were ruled by honor and family pride not by law time when feuds on the kentucky frontier were were settled with violence and blood. Some of these beauts have been the stuff of legend like the one that erupted on kentucky's border with west virginia nia. You're along the tug fork river that divides the states some say it all started in eighteen seventy eight in a valley like this one when randall mccoy of pike county accused floyd hatfield of west virginia of stealing one of his hogs get set off tensions between the two families that were often fueled by family gatherings and whiskey here in these appalachian hills. One argument over a debt of a dollar seventy five led to the killing of mccoy. A revenge attack led to three more deaths on august twenty ninth. 1887 kanat hatfield wrote a letter warning the mccoy's. We have been told by men from your county that you and your men are fixing to invade this county for the purpose of taking the hatfield boys the world we have no particular pleasure at hanging dogs but we know you have counted the miles and mark the tree finally on january first eighteen eighty eight the hatfields took matters into their own hands. They traveled across the tug fork river over surrounded one of the mccoy's houses and set it on fire then they shot the mccoy's as they ran from the flames. When sarah mccoy tried to protect checked her daughter she was beaten so severely that her skull was crushed miraculously she survived and testified against the happy here at the pike county courthouse in pike ville in eighteen eighty nine spectators crowded in hoping to get a glimpse of the bloodthirsty mountain desperadoes varados the jury sentenced eight of the hatfields to life but it was a man named ellison mounts who got the death penalty for killing sarah era mccoy's daughter. The hatfield mccoys feud got a lot of press at the time which is a big reason why became the stuff of frontier legend you though killings like like these were common across eastern kentucky after the civil war but despite the backwoods violence that flared across the appalachians kentucky was still seen as a land of liberty and always had been..

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"tug fork" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

07:43 min | 1 year ago

"tug fork" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"Ninety. Cotton top waited on the edge of his cot. He was told that his mother would soon be arriving to visit him. He wanted to see her one last time to hear her promise that she would not be present for the hanging. No mother should have to see that. As he waited. He couldn't stop a flicker of hope from consuming his thoughts. There was still time for rescue. Maybe his family would storm the jail and break him out. There were rumors that cap Hatfield might be planning such a scheme thinking about cap made cotton top feel angry. He was the real culprit. They were both guilty of shooting up the McCoy's farm house, but it was caps bullet that it struck the McCoy girl, Allah fair contact felt sure of it. Cotton top could hear a crowd beginning to form outside spectators for the hanging, but nobody came to break down the jail doors and set him free contacts hope curdled into despair he had wasted. So much of the last few years hating McCoy's, but he didn't feel any hate. Now. They weren't responsible for him being here. It was his own kin the half fields who had pushed him to violence. Cotton top at unleashed his worst impulses for the sake of his family. Now, his family had abandoned him witnesses on February eighteenth send that just before the executioners covered his face with a black hood cotton top cried out the hatfields made me do it. An estimated seven thousand people came to see the hanging including Randolph McCoy afterwards. Tensions. Seem to settle contact wasn't the only guilty party, but many tug fork residents just seemed happy that someone anyone had paid for the havoc the feud caused the violence sedate had cost the Hatfield seven lives, and the mccoys ten now the families were no longer out for blood most of the remaining mccoys moved away from tug fork settling permanently in pike Ville, Kentucky Sarah Randolph for too heartbroken to think of vengeance. They have lost their sons Tolbert farmer and bud in the pom-pom murders of eighteen eighty two their son Calvin and their daughter alla fair died in the New Year's massacre of eighteen eighty eight. Roseanna McCoy had been cast out by her family in eighteen eighty after her fair with John Hatfield, but she had restored ties after the New Year's massacre to take care of her injured mother, even after reuniting with her family Rosanna suffered from severe depression in the spring of eighteen eighty nine her family reported that she seemed to be wasting away one night twenty nine year old Rosanna went to bed and never woke up her close friend and sister-in-law Martha McCoy would later say she died of a broken heart Roseanne is younger brother Bill had suffered from unbearable guilt ever since the Popol murders. Bill along with his brothers farmer and Tolbert had taken part in the stabbing of Ellison Hatfield, but when the Hatfield mob came to settle the score. They had taken bud McCoy instead of Bill Bill carried the responsible. Ability of his brother's death on his conscience for years in October eighteen eighty nine at the age of twenty three he fell ill and died Randolph McCoy remained bitter for the rest of his life. But he felt it best that the feud come to an end before could claim any more lives, the Hatfield suffered fewer losses, but came to the same conclusion on February twenty fourth 1891 Twenty-seven-year-old cap Hatfield sent a letter to the editor published in the Wayne County news in this letter cap wrote the war spirit in me has abated and I sincerely rejoice at the prospect of peace. I have devoted my life to arms we have undergone a fearful loss of noble lives and valuable property in the struggle now, I propose to rest in a spirit of peace caps at a to'real didn't mention the fact that he was still wanted for murder in Kentucky. He also oversold his purported spirit of peace in eighteen ninety six cap was arrested after a shoot-out unrelated to the mccoys and convicted of manslaughter the crime carried only a one year sentence, which cap served in a small county jail in Williamson West Virginia. He was worried that if he stayed in custody he might be extradited to Kentucky so three months into his sentence campus gift from the jail using a drill that his wife managed to sneak in my most accounts, he fled to Oklahoma his spirit did eventually settle in his time away. He attended law school after a decade cap returned to West Virginia to start a legal practice. Capsule, their brother, John also carved out a new life for himself after the feud his hell cat life Nancy McCoy Hatfield divorced him. She in fact, left him for bad Frank Phillips, but Jones he remarried and started a logging business. His rule in the feud seemed to be in the distant past, however, a US marshal named Dan Cunningham was still interested in collecting the five hundred dollar rewards for the capture of any indicted hatfields in June of eighteen ninety nine Cunningham nab Johnny in the town of Gilbert. West Virginia and escorted him to Kentucky for trial Johnson was found guilty and he received a life sentence. But six years into the sentence, another inmate attack the warden of the prison jonky fought the other inmate off and as a reward he was granted parole. Unlike his sons devil Anse never saw. The inside of a jail. He kept up his quiet life in the mountains in nineteen eleven seventy two year old devil. Anse sent a message to Randolph. Mccoy's oldest son Jim Deva Lance offered. Jim a sum of ten thousand dollars and asked whether the indictment against him could be withdrawn Jim McCoy refused the offer. But sent back message telling devil Anse that he had let go of all resentments, and he did not consider the hatfields to be a target any longer even as the Hatfield McCoy families moved on from the feud the story has become immortalized as an American legend. It may be that people see their own grudges and passions echoed in the conflict. Psychologists, Michael McCulloch, Robert curse. Ben and Benjamin. Toback have suggested that revenge is a universal and necessary human add obtain often, but their work also states that the capacity for forgiveness is just as inherent to the human. Experience the final peaceful outcome of the Hatfield McCoy feud seemed to prove their points. Thanks

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"tug fork" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

08:24 min | 1 year ago

"tug fork" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"According to family stories, Jim Vance felt sick that day from eating too much raccoon meet he told cap that he had no plans to run. He would stay in fight ordering cap to go find reinforcements as he fled. Jim tried to hold the men off. But he was shot in the arm while Jim Lee bleeding on the ground bad Frank strode over and shot him in the head. When cap reached his father's camp and told the men what had happened. They rallied a group to fight the Kentucky posse, but the two groups never met that day after killing Jim Vance bad Frank and the Kentucky posse went onto the home Valentine wall Hatfield and placed him under arrest. They escorted wall and five other Hatfield prisoners back to the jail and pike Ville Kentucky. Bad Frank planned another rate for January eighteenth eighteen eighty eight he brought thirty three men with him. This time the remaining hatfields where warrant of his arrival and they had prepared themselves for confrontation Deva Lance had refused to participate in the New Year's attack. But he felt compelled to defend his family in the wake of Jim Vance's death. He called on cousins neighbors and even to west Virginian lawmen to help the areas constable John Thompson and special deputy Bill Dempsey were evidently, not pleased with the way these Kentucky inns were invading their territory, they felt bound to protect their own citizens. Even those wanted for murder, the two groups clashed at grapevine creek about a mile east of the tug fork river near the home of cap Hatfield, the Hatfield spotted Jim McCoy, I he was carrying the gun. His brother Calvin had used the night. Of the New Year's massacre. Jim managed to hit special deputy Bill Dempsey with his first shot, the Hatfield scuttled for cover as more. Members of the Kentucky posse appeared. The hatfields returned fire. The Kentucky posse climbdown off their horses and dill behind a nearby stonewall from those positions the two groups fired on each other for over two hours. It became clear to the hatfields that they were outnumbered and they began to retreat Bill Dempsey injured by Jim McCoist shot but still alive try to crawl away bad Frank Phillips coldly placed the barrel of his gun against Dempsey's neck and blew his head off. None of the hatfields were captured that day, but they were stunned by the battle and by the casual cruelty of Frank Phillips. They were beginning to understand that Phillips was willing to go to any links done them down after the battle of grapevine creek devil. Anse sent a letter to the Winchester company in Massachusetts placing an order for ten thousand rounds of ammunition and twenty-five new Winchester, repeating rifles, which could be fired many times without reloading. These guns were an upgrade from the one shot rifles and muzzle loading guns. Many of the Hatfield had been carrying the shipment would arrive the following October if devil Anse couldn't beat the Kentucky inns a numbers, he could at least have superior firepower. The battle of grapevine creek didn't just alarm the hatfields for many residents of tuck fork. It invoked memories of the civil war the drama of the. Vent caught the attention of journalists who began to sink their teeth into the story. Many newspapers took sides in the feud by embellishing the indecency of one side or the other one report claimed without evidence that bad Frank Phillips, not only shot Bill Dempsey, but also picked his pockets after he died another reporter for the Pittsburgh times. Extolled the doggedness of Frank Phillips and express sympathy for the McCoy family, while labeling the hatfields as a cowardly gang band together for the purpose of murder, the hostility spread to the local and state politicians west Virginia's governor Wilson objected to the arrest of wall Hatfield and the others taken into custody. He claimed they had been taken without any legal process and unlawfully transferred across state lines. He demanded the prisoners be released Kentucky's governor Buckner refused by his reckoning. He wasn't under any obligation to release the men. He felt that once the prisoners were in his state's custody Kentucky had the right to try them for any crimes. They had committed within their jurisdiction. The matter went before a court and Louisville which determined that it did not have jurisdiction over controversy between two states. According to the US constitution only. The US supreme court had the power to decide such a dispute the supreme court heard the case on April twenty third eighteen eighty eight the court agreed with Kentucky that however the men had been brought into the state even if the manner of their capture was a legal. They could still be legally tried once they were in custody Kentucky was free to prosecute the men already behind bars. The ruling of the supreme court rattled the hatfields. It also Blida rated any expectation that the Justice system would treat them fairly to them. The actions of bad Frank Phillips amounted to kidnapping. The work of Janice Nadler, a research, professor of law and psychology showed that when people feel that they are treated fairly by the Justice system. They are less likely to reaffirmed in the future. Conversely, when people view the law as unjust. They are more likely to act out with criminal behavior. If the hatfields were comfortable evading the law before the supreme court decision only made them more defiant. In the summer of eighteen eighty eight. Rumors spread throughout the tug fork valley that dozens of bounty hunters were combing the mountains in search of hatfields cotton top mounts was caught by two detectives and taken into custody there. He joined wall Hatfield along with about a dozen other men indicted for feud related crimes the trial for the eighteen eighty two pom-pom murders began in August of eighteen eighty nine in an odd change of heart Perry Cline, decided to take up the legal defense of all Hatfield, some say, this was because wall offered him more money, which overruled claims friendship with McCoy's. Others say Perry was still loyal to the mccoys and his defensive wall was a sham. Perhaps the ladder theory was correct wall Hatfield was found guilty in his trial and given a life sentence. Wall was shocked by the decision. He was one of the few hatfields that had tried to temper some of the flames of the feud, and was sure he would be acquitted. He wasn't the only one bewildered by his trials outcome. Cotton top mounts had participated in both the Popol murders and the New Year's raid. But he hadn't planned them. He had just gone along with what Hatfield leaders had told him to do. He was described as easily influenced some historians have indicated that he may have had an intellectual handicap while in custody cotton top confessed to the New Year's raid. Murder of twenty nine year old ala fair McCoy some reporters speculated that he was bribed into doing. So one article suggested that cap Hatfield promise cotton top five hundred dollars a rifle and a new saddle if he would take the fall for the murder, the Hatfield seemed to hope that by making cotton top. Scapegoat. The rest of them would get off lightly. If cotton top was promised a small fortune in exchange for pleading guilty, he would never get to enjoy it following the trial of Allah fares murder. He was sentenced to be hanged. His execution was scheduled for February eighteenth eighteen ninety.

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"tug fork" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

11:08 min | 1 year ago

"tug fork" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"Due to the graphic nature of these families crimes. Listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of murder and violence that some people may find offensive we advise extreme caution for children under the age of thirteen. Cap Hatfield was certain about one thing some women gossip too much for their own good. Maybe it was harmless most of the time, but when his family was under attack. He couldn't abide loose lips someone in the Hatfield clan was spilling secrets cap suspected the culprit was his sister in law. Nancy after all, she was McCoy by blood. It was foolish to trust her. The question now was what to do about her bad behavior had to be punished. Cap. Thoughtfully stared at the wall. He saw the tail of a cow nail to the wooden logs of his cabin. He had chopped it off just to see the animal jump then hung up to dry cap. Rip the tail down and brandished it like a whip swishing it through the air, he smiled as a plan began to form in his mind. Those gossiping McCoy woman had. Earned a beating, and he would be the one to give it to them. Hi, I'm Laney Hobbs. And this is crimes of passion. Apar- cast original the legal definition of a crime of passion is a violent crime that occurs in the throes of extreme emotion, leaving no time to reflect on the consequences. But in this show, we explore passionate crimes, how does marriage progress from husband and wife to kill her and victim or killer and co-conspirator if there's a thin line between love and hate what manipulates our relationships and a deadly results at par cast. We're grateful for you our listeners you allow us to do what we love let us know how we're doing reach out on Facebook and Instagram at par cast and Twitter at podcast network. And if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help us is to leave a five star review wherever you're listening. It really does help us. We also now have merchandise had depar- cast dot com slash merch for more. Formation. Beginning in eighteen sixty five the hatfields of Logan county, West Virginia and the mccoys of pike county Kentucky or locked in a lethal feud that would entangle the families and bloody cycle of violence over the subsequent twenty six years. The trouble began with the death of thirty seven year old harm in McCoy. The former union soldier was killed in January of eighteen sixty five by confederate leaning militia group, led by devil, Anse Hatfield and his uncle Jim Vance in eighteen seventy eight thirteen years after Harman's murder, his older brother Randolph McCoy accused a Hatfield of stealing his hogs at the trial to determine the ownership of the animals a McCoy cousin named Bill. Stayton testified against family lines. The mccoys were so furious about this betrayal that two of Randolph's nephews shot and killed Bill. Stayton in eighteen eighty. That same year. Twenty one year old Roseanna McCoy fell in love with eighteen year old Johnny Hatfield. But after a brief affair that left Rosanna pregnant Jones, he jilted Rosanna to marry her cousin Nancy these events pushed the McCoy's to a breaking point on election day, August seventh of eighteen eighty two three of Randolph McCoy sons stabbed and shot confederate war hero and Baptist. Deacon? Ellison Hatfield after the brawl a posse led by devil Anse Hatfield grabbed the McCoy brothers. Tolbert farmer and bud and drag them to an old school house on the West Virginia side of the tug fork river there they waited to see whether Ellison Hatfield would survive his injuries. At three o'clock in the afternoon on Wednesday, August ninth eighteen eighty two forty year old Ellison Hatfield succumbed to his wounds word quickly got back to the old schoolhouse Sarah McCoy, the mother of the captive brothers had been holding vigil outside. But when the news came in the Hatfield mob, ordered her to leave devil Anse gathered twenty of his men, he instructed them to lead the McCoy prisoners outside at nightfall. They began their journey back into Kentucky the policy was primed for murder, but one Hatfield remained reticent. Valentine Hatfield nicknamed wall Deva, Lance is oldest brother and a Justice of the peace in west Virginia's Logan county. As wall. Hatfield tourists reach the edge of the tug fork river. He watched a group of men grab Tolbert farmer, and bud McCoy and hustle them towards the riverbank the rush of the river couldn't drown out the frantic pleas of the young McCoy, boys. Wall fell doubt creep in as he stared at their tear-streaked faces wall looked around. But none of the other Hatfield men seem to be affected. He couldn't help. But think of the McCoy boy's father Randolph who had gone onto bike Ville to find a lawyer to defend his sons Randolph had put his trust in the principles of law and order up until this moment wall had dedicated his life to those same values. Now, he felt ashamed at how easily he had let his anger sweep his principles away wall. Hurt is brother Deva Lance order. The posse to take the McCoy brothers across the river into Kentucky. The prisoners would soon be outside of walls jurisdiction and beyond his responsibility. But wall felt more burden than ever. Finally. He had to speak up wall told the posse to reconsider. He reminded them that the bible prohibited. Murder, but walls brother, never had much use for religion. Devon lands. Had always been stubborn even as a boy when he had his mind set on something trying to convince him otherwise only made him dig in harder. As wall, protested devil. Anse just stared at him coldly, then ordered his men to keep going wall thought of other please. But he couldn't seem to voice them. It seemed pointless to stand up against the inflamed passions of his kin. He kept silent. And let the men drag the McCoy prisoners away. With wall gone. The rest of the men fell in mind behind Deva lands following his instructions without question before it continue with the psychology. Please note, I am not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist, but I have done a lot of research for this show. Rebecca Saxe and associate professor of cognitive neuroscience at MIT has conducted research on how a mob mentality can prompt individuals to ignore their own morals and commit acts. They would never have considered on their own in. Her study sacks measured the brain activity of people performing a competitive task both alone. And in a group when the participants of the study acted as a group the areas of their brains responsible for self reflection or less active than when they acted alone. They were there for less capable of applying their usual standards of conduct wall Hatfield was able to overcome mob mentality, but the rest of his kin gave into it. After the group crossed the tug. Fork river the posse founded ditch not far from the riverbank a smattering of broadly Papa trees grew within this hollow the Hatfield mob tied the mccoys to the pawpaw trunks. According to witnesses Tober McCoy remained impassive. He said, I want the man who kills me to stand right before my eyes. I want to look him right in the eye ignoring Tolbert's request the hatfields tied him to the tree backwards. So that he wouldn't be able to face his executioner farmer and bud didn't make any final requests. They only sobbed. The firing squad included devil Anse and his sons twenty year old Johnny eighteen-year-old cap and fifteen year old Bob they were joined by several family members and friends, including a man named Ellison mounts known as cotton top due to his white blonde hair. Cotton top was the twenty four year old illegitimate son of Ellison Hatfield, whose death the men were now avenging cotton tops at an later account that a half field ally hung lanterns over the heads of the McCoy brothers. So that the posse would know where to aim moments later the firing squad unleashed a torrent of gunfire. The blast echoed through the mountains. Jim McCoy the oldest of Randolph McCoy sons was still awake that night. His mother Sarah had convinced him to stay away from the trouble because she didn't want another one of her sons to risk his life by getting involved. Jim was restlessly sitting on the front porch of a family friend's house? Waiting for any news to come in? When he heard the shots. He knew what those shots meant. But he hoped his intuition was wrong. He said out into the now silent woods when he came to the palm. Ditch. The hatfill posse was gone, but the bodies of his three brothers remained. The next morning Randolph McCoy returned home from pike Ville, having secured bail and legal representation for his sons only to learn he was too late. The McCoy's called on neighbors to help them retrieve the three bodies and bring them home. They were buried that day. August eleventh eighteen eighty two. Fifty-seven-year-old Randolph McCoy was ready to put together his own Lynch mob, but his wife Sarah convinced him, not to retaliate. She couldn't bear the thought of more killing Randolph relented, but the matter wasn't over the same day his sons were buried Randolph road to the town of pike Bill Kentucky to speak with the county. Prosecutors about filing indictments against his son's killers a month. After the funeral a Kentucky grand jury raw charges against devil lands. His brother wall, his sons, John and cap and sixteen other men for murder.

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"tug fork" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

13:42 min | 1 year ago

"tug fork" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"Today. Codenames deception gadgets. It might seem like something out of the movies. But these are just some of the essential components of being a spy most spies. Don't stand out like characters JAMES BOND and eat and hunt. They are ordinary forgettable people, which makes them all the more dangerous. So what does it really take to be a spy every week espionage a new park. Cast original explores this high stakes world in analyzes the missions behind the world's most incredible spies, and how these covert operations succeeded or failed. Find out the real world's by tactics required to impersonate, exploit an infiltrate the most confidential places in the world, you'll be shocked by the episode on Larry chin one of the CIA's top Chinese linguists. Who was also China's top spy for over thirty years and you'll be in spy. Fired by Virginia hall who despite losing part of her leg, organize sabotage missions against German army and helped allied soldiers escape during World War Two search for in subscribe to espionage wherever you listen to podcasts again, search espionage or visit park has dot com slash espionage till listen now. Now back to this crime of passion. The happy McCoy viewed was ignited in eighteen sixty five with the death of thirty seven year old harm in McCoy. He was likely killed by a thirty three year old man named Jim Vance a confederate sympathizer who was angry about Harmon service with the union army. Vance may have had help from his nephew twenty six year old devil Anse Hatfield Harman's older brother Randolph McCoy did not initially seek retaliation. He may have had too many other worries to pursue vengeance tending to his wife and sixteen children. But it was the first slight and what would become an avalanche of grudges Randolph McCoy descended from some of the original pioneers of tug fork valley, but Randolph's father had to sell off their family farm in order to pay various fines and debts therefore Randolph inherited no land from his father. He and his wife, Sarah. Lived in a tiny cabin in the blackberry district of Kentucky about two miles south of the tug fork river, they had very little land and had almost nothing to pass down to their children research conducted by scientists Paul Tiffen Mark s Pierce and Louise Parker show that men who have gone through a downward social trajectory experienced significantly, greater mental health issues than men who social status remains the same over time. The loss of status often gives rise to feelings of shame and distrust, according to Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett for Randolph McCoy the daily struggles of poverty, only added to the usual stresses of trying to raise a large family in the harsh wilderness of the mountains. In the late eighteen hundreds Appalachia, many families survival depended on the success of their small-scale farming and hurting opperations Randolph. Mccoy's family was no different. Raising. Hogs was critical to their livelihood. A single four hundred pound animal might make the difference between getting through the winter and starving to death. Therefore farmers took their hogs very seriously a Kentucky circuit court judge noted that he'd convicted more men for stealing hogs than for murder. In September of eighteen seventy eight fifty two year old Randolph was pending his hog. So that he could castrate the piglets in the middle of his work. A Sal broke through the fence and ran off with six of her piglets Randolph. Let her go the hongs or territorial animals and didn't often stray far from home. But when they hadn't returned by that winter Randolph mounted a search. He was confident he would be able to recognize the sow if he found her farmers Mark their hogs by cutting notches into the animal's ears. Each armor had his own distinct Marc Randolph track the hog to the farm of his nephew, Tom Stafford Stafford didn't know who the hogs belong to. But he had been keeping them penned up with his own pigs until the owner came forward since it was nearly night. Randolph didn't want to go through the trouble of dragging the hogs back home in the dark. He knocked on Tom's door. Four and let his nephew. No that he'd come to retrieve them the next morning. But not long after Randolph left. Another man Floyd Hatfield showed up at Tom's door. Twenty nine year old Floyd was a cousin of devil Anse Hatfield. He also happened to be Tom Stafford's brother-in-law. He claimed that a few of his hogs had crossed over the frozen tug fork river and had gotten stranded on Tom's property. Tom worn Floyd that Randolph McCoy claimed ownership over those same hogs Floyd didn't listen, he rounded up the livestock and herded them across the river to his farm. When Randolph heard about this the following day. He was furious. He immediately went to confront Floyd the men checked the hogs ears, but the brands were so scuffed up and scarred over nobody could tell who's marks. They were Floyd Hatfield kept possession of the hongs, but Randolph McCoy promised that the matter was an over Randolph took his claim to another Hatfield cousin confusingly also named Anse Hatfield this cousin went by the name preacher ants in contrast to Deva, Lance, although he was a Hatfield by name and blood year old preacher. Aunts lived in the same district as Randolph McCoy on the Kentucky side of the tug. Fork river rather than the West Virginia side, more most of the other hatfields, resided preacher. Anse led the congregation of the old pond creek Baptist church where both hatfields and McCoy. As went to worship, he was seen as a neutral party among the families and as a Justice of the peace. He was also accepted by both families as a qualified arbiter over the hog conflict. Preacher aunts organized. A hearing his log cabin farmers from all over tug. Fork valley came to see the disagreement playout preacher Anse called for everyone to cast their weapons aside. The men grudgingly laid their rifles and pistols against the wall and the trial began testimony went as everyone expected with the McCoy witnesses swearing that the hog belonged to Randolph McCoy, and the Hatfield witnesses insisting that it was Floyd's one witness deviated from family lines Bill Stayton Stayton was a cousin of Randolph McCoy. But his sister was married to Ellison Hatfield. Ellison Hatfield wasn't just statements brother-in-law. They were best friends state and testified that he had personally watched Floyd brand the hog in question. The mccoys were furious Randolph. Mccoy's nephew Paris called. Stayton a damned liar. But Stayton stuck to his testimony. Once the witnesses were through it was time for the jury to come to a decision preacher. Ants was determined to be impartial. He had selected a jury of six men with Hatfield affiliations and six men from the McCoy clan. Perhaps he felt that if the trial ended in a hung jury, the men might both feel vindicated and let the matter drop with no hard feelings, but predicting jury loyalties crew to be an impossible task one of the jurors Selkirk McCoy was yet another cousin of Randolph McCoy, but he had served in the confederate army with devil Anse Hatfield and he worked on devil answers timber crew with Selkirk joining in with the hatfields the jury turned in a verdict of seven to five against Randolph McCoy. The McCoy's were astonished and infuriated Randolph cursed the verdict, but his wife Sarah convinced her husband to accept the outcome. Although he growled about the injustice Randolph allowed Floyd to take home the prize tog the feud could have stopped there in its tracks. But Randolph McCoy had nine sons and countless nephews who did not have Randolph's passive temperament to them. The verdict wasn't just about a stolen pig. It was a matter of family, honour and betrayal. Harvard Medical School psychiatrist James Gilligan spent several years as the medical director for the Massachusetts prison system. He wrote that the inmates violent acts were nearly always triggered by a recent humiliation. The men used violence as a way to recover their pride after a loss of face. The aftermath of the hog trial showed that the mccoys were determined to punish the Hatfield for injury to their egos from then on flare ups of violence between the families became a regular occurrence, the mccoys directed most of their IRA at Bill Stayton who had sided with his Hatfield inlaws over his cousin Randolph McCoy after the trial state and try to steer clear of his angry relations by staying on the West Virginia side of the tug fork river, but run ins were unavoidable one autumn afternoon. Bill Stayton was hunting deer in the woods with Ellison Hatfield. Ellison like his brother Deva, Lance was a confederate veteran locally hailed as a war hero. Unlike Deva, Lance Ellison had a reputation for being even tempered and fair-minded. He was a deacon in preacher answers Baptist church. And he was known as the peacekeeper. Ever of the Hatfield family. The men came upon to McCoy brothers, Paris and squirrel hunting Sam the McCoy's bristled when they saw Bill Stayton remembering his traitorous testimony at the hug trial squirrel hunting Sam aimed his rifle and shot the gun right out of Bill statements hands then he dropped his own gun and threw himself at his cousin. They scuffled on the ground until Ellison Hatfield, pull them apart and shoved squirrel hunting Sam away the men separated without any serious injury that day, but the next few months were punctuated with similar skirmishes on June eighteen eighteen eighty Paris in squirrel hunting Sam again, cross paths with Bill Stayton in the woods. This time. Stayton was alone. There are several different accounts of what followed on that day. According to McCoy historians. Bill Stayton saw Perez and Sam I and he ambushed them shooting Paris through the hip. Paris felt the bullet ripped through the flesh of his hip, and he snarled in surprise and pain. He turned to see Bill statement barreling towards him acting on pure instinct, Paris raised his own gun and fired back hitting Stayton in the chest. Paris's Pull's raised as he watched the blood spurt from the man's wound. But Stayton wasn't stopping he lumbered toward Paris and began to pummel him with his fists. Paris drew up his arms grabbing Bill by the shoulders as he stumbled backward. He clot at Bill drawing. Blood Bill, Baird his teeth rabid suddenly Bill lunched forward and tore at Paris's jugular vein with his teeth. Paris began to panic. He felt sticky blood pooling at his caller, he gripped. The other man's jaws and tried to pry him loose Paris church. Nd his desperate is towards his brother squirrel hunting. Sam who watched the fight from a few feet away. Harris couldn't speak. He couldn't manage to do anything. But grunt regardless. Sam got the message and raise his pistol. Sam wasn't nickname squirrel hunting Sam for nothing. He had an aim so sharp he could pick squirrels out of trees as they leapt from limb to limb now he was aiming at a larger target with one shot from SAM's gun. A bullet pierced Bill state and skull Peres felt bills body jerk against him, then go limp. Paris breathe a sigh of relief Bill Stayton had finally gotten. What was coming to him?

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"tug fork" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

06:33 min | 1 year ago

"tug fork" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"I'm delighted to announce an incredible new podcast original called espionage. It tells the stories of the world's most unbelievable undercover missions and healthy covert operations, succeeded or failed. And if you stay tuned after this show, you can hear a clip of the first episode to listen to the full first episode subscribed to espionage wherever you listen to podcasts. New episodes come out every Friday. Due to the graphic nature of these families crimes. Listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of murder and violence that some people may find offensive we advise extreme caution for children under the age of thirteen. Rosanna crept quietly through the forest anticipation tingling through every nerve of her body. The twenty one year old woman was in love with a dashing eighteen year old name Jonty meeting him in secret in the dark of the woods only made their encounters more. Thrilling Rosanna knew her family didn't approve of their courtship. But she couldn't resist jonky when she spotted him crossing a dry creek bed coming towards her Rosanna trepidation faded away. Johnson took Rosanna and his arms. It was a chilly autumn night. But they began to undress not wanting to waste a moment of their time together as Johnny kissed her. He told her everything she wanted to hear he promised that he was going to marry her and that they would soon be happy together. But a moment later Rosanna heard the heavy stomp of men's boots. She turned to see three of her brothers Tolbert farmer, and Jim clamoring through the brush towards them Rosanna could tell by their expressions that it would be useless to argue with them before she could even try her brother's grab John C and loaded him onto a horse. The men left Rosanna alone in the forest clearing. She was cold and terrified. But also resolute no matter what her family thought Roseanna McCoy was determined to be with Jani Hatfield. Hi, I'm Laney Hobbs. And this is crimes of passion. A cast original the legal definition of a crime of passion is a violent crime that occurs in the throes of extreme emotion, leaving no time to reflect on the consequences. But in this show, we explore passionate crimes. How does a marriage progress from husband and wife to killer and victim or killer and co-conspirator if there's a thin line between love and hate what manipulates our relationships into deadly results at our cast. We are grateful for you our listeners, you allow us to do what we love let us know how you're doing reach out on Facebook and Instagram at podcast and Twitter at podcast network. And if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help is to leave a five star review wherever you are listening. It really does help us. We. We also now have merchandise. Head depar- cast dot com slash merch. For more information. In the highlands of the Appalachia visitors can find some of the most gorgeous scenery in America. But the area's natural beauty is overshadowed by oblique history. The Hatfield McCoy families lived among the hills surrounding the tug fork river, the waterway marks the border between West Virginia and Kentucky. The feud between the two families span from eighteen sixty five until eighteen ninety one since then it has inspired hundreds of newspaper articles, dozens of books and a handful of movies and television series. The violence has commanded the public's fascination for well over a hundred years, it is not clear why the squabble has received so much attention. The participants weren't celebrities. The crimes they committed while cruel were no more horrifying than many other murders reported at the time. But perhaps the dispute has stayed in the public consciousness because the violent seems so senseless these families were neighbors. Many participants were related to each other by marriage, some by blood, they should have been helping each other survive the Talibans of frontier life, instead they let petty slights turn into track. Gic bloodshed in this episode. We'll learn how tensions mounted between the hatfields and mccoys during the civil war. And in the decades after until they erupted in eighteen eighty two with a gruesome murder that shocked. The residents of tug fork next week will discuss the bloody acts of retaliation and the court trials that followed. When the feud began an eighteen sixty five twenty five year old William Anderson Hatfield and forty year old Randolph McCoy where the proud patriarchs of their respective families. Historians name these men as the primary engineers of the discord William Anderson, Hatfield went by ants or commonly devil Anse. He was given this nickname by his own mother. Nancy Vance Hatfield, according to one apocryphal story. Nancy witnessed her unruly fifteen year old son fighting a mountain lion with his bare hands and remark that he was not a feared of no kind of farm it, nor of the devil himself devil. Lance was born in eighteen thirty nine the fourth of eighteen children on the West Virginia side of tug fork valley living in a border state devil Anse was at the center of America's conflict when the civil war broke out in eighteen sixty one.

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"tug fork" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

01:47 min | 2 years ago

"tug fork" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"Sometime in the fall of eighteen eighty six Nancy Mary's brother, Jeff McCoy stabs, and then shoots pike county mail carrier named Fred Wolford, Jeff is Johnny hatfields. Wife's brother son of as a Harmon McCoy. Jeff flees Kentucky to Nancy Thome investor Geneva hide out from the law, and there he learns about Mary and her daughter getting whipped by cap Hatfield. Tom Wallace, Jeff is outraged. Huff Oto whip no dog folk he decided to punish Hatfield associate Tom Wallis. Maybe a little bit hesitant to to go after cap Hatfield directly will Jeff along with an accomplice named Josiah Hurley, they wait until cap is out at his house, then kidnapped Tom Wallace take him to jail in pie feel Kentucky. However, Tom Wallace manages to escape and return to caps house. Jeff chose area catch up to him. But after a short confrontation, they give up and then when cap learns about the assault on his home and Wallace being taken. He files a complaint with local Justice of the peace his relation. Who issues warrants for the arrest at points Kappa special constable, how convenient he gets become officer. You know, so that he can serve the warrants himself. So now he gets to go after McCoy somewhat legally quasi illegally. And he does arrest Jeff McCoy Josie Hurley, but then Jeff escapes, quote unquote, during transport to county jail dives into the tug fork tries to swim back to Kentucky. He does make the riverbank or then captures shoots in from across the river, and he dies. So another McCoy a nephew of all rantel has been shot and killed by a Hatfield hog folk still still way up in this food. All right in the wake of yet. Another killing Deva Lance tries to soothe the the bad blood between the two families on December twenty six eighteen eighty six day of Christmas, Devlin's.

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"tug fork" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

02:52 min | 2 years ago

"tug fork" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"So just confusing to me. Yeah. So I guess he's just as the piece where where related to them man, and I have gone over this so many times to try and separate the families. There's anyway, I guess what's important in this segment of the tail is whether or not these these these local law officers were hatfields or not local officers get him. But then some some hatfields possibly some other hatfields think like no we don't want this to go to the court. They form a posse. They get these three McCoy San's in some vigilante kind of take down. Right. And then they take them back to one of their homes. So they take take us the of them. They have them in West Virginia. They put him in an abandoned log schoolhouse. They're real under under armed guard and that night, Randall's wife, the boy's mother Serra McCoy her daughter-in-law Mary butcher arrive. Beg to see their kin Deva Lance relents the women get to spend. A fair amount of time with them co-boys, supposedly Sarah pleads with devil Anse not to kill her sons, he promises her he will return them to Kentucky soil alive, but then the following day, August, ninth devil and his brother. Ellison dies endeavor, Lance enraged, he's grieving he decides he is not going to return service boys to her not after killing his brother. She returns again to see her son. She is denied, and then the McCoy prisoners are bound and March to the tug fork where they crossed the river there returned to Kentucky soil where the hatfields some had time to some bushes. Cross the creek DO back to the West Virginia side, and then from across the creek opened fire on the bound prisoners fire. Well over fifty shots there. They're, you know, very dead. The bodies of Tolbert farmer and bud McCoy then discovered on the riverbank next day by relative. Yeah. If any of these points, I have to do a little bit wait what? There's there's a a lot of a lot of tales out there about these guys. And it's a very fusing tail even when you do it down to the truth. And yeah, takes a lot of like, wait what have to be very clear. What what am I saying now? So if you're keeping track let's do a recap because this shit is getting confusing. If you're keeping track of significant hostilities, let's go over the important points before we move forward in this tale as a in McCoy thought to have been killed by some hatfields likely by either Deva, Lance or crazy Jim Vance in eighteen sixty five and as a Harmon McCoy is Renell McCoy old Randall head of the McCoy clan. It's his brother the brother that was ostracized by the family for being a unit soldier. That's eighteen sixty five eighteen seventy eight Randall McCoy accuses Floyd Hatfield cousin of devil Anse of stealing one of his hogs Floyd found innocent. But the trial may not have been that fair. Shootout over the hog dispute. A few months later leads to Paris McCoy..

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"tug fork" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

03:42 min | 2 years ago

"tug fork" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"Struggles between prominent local families like feels McCoy's product of competition for for land, wealth and power. Just just countries, you know, say motivation for countries fighting when another, you know, a lot of those trickle down to these feuds just one family wanting, you know, more more power more land more wealth on I was trying to take it for another family finally view took place directly on a state line. The majority of the half as we said lived on the on the West Virginia side of the tug fork. And the majority of McCoy's of Kentucky side, and if you'll recall way back from way back in the bunny, and CLYDE suck. If you're an outlaw in the early twentieth century crossing state lines often gave you the chance to escape with authorities starting life. You felt a little bolder to go break some laws in a in a nearby states because you. Oh, back to go to different state and get away with it. This was even more true in the late nineteenth century, the federal government, not as strong as it is today, especially when it came to law enforcement, and you know, one state was usually extremely reluctant to push into another state to apres Hindu criminal. And if they did do that local government in that state could and would often push back against the other states officers, maybe not recognize them as being lost recognize him as trespassers. So, you know, in some ways different states where we're almost like different countries. It's another understand a little bit about the context. Take some broad strokes to the two biggest players by foreign today's tale of the patriarchs of the Hatfield and McCoy clients, maybe the most important character in the feud is Devlin's Hatfield have paid have man headed home full about no hall, folk don't take. No for no doll folk. Sorry, Lea leader of that Bill Clinton patriarch of one half of the information infamous feud born William Anderson, Hatfield an eighteen thirty nine Deva lands. Hatfield grew up in. What is now Logan county? West Virginia born raised the tug valley soured and West Virginia Wayne from his mama's sweet Tate's route there in Nevada. Yeah. Hatfields or some of the first settlers in the region and the river serves the boundary between Kentucky and Virginia. One of the eighteen children born to Ephraim and Nancy Hatfield Deva lands half filled and star if I keep repeating some of these details there's so many characters in today's tale. I kept just having to do like mental recaps to remind myself of what in the hell is happening. It was become more important as the story goes on. But. Yeah. Devils while one of eighteen kids born to Ephraim Nancy Hatfield known to be an excellent marksman and horse rider eighteen kits eighteen kits sweet Jesus. Poor poor mother. I'm surprised more women didn't kill her husband's back. Then you're gonna hear about a lot more women. Have a lot more kids. That's just ridiculous amount of pregnancy. I told him to not put a seed in me. No moss. I told him I said, Robert, Bob, McAllister, FitzGerald, you take that devil. Stiff, and you special baby post on that deal flow pregnant full teen, my twenty seven years on this. I'm John look like ole witch lost of fat with the bail. And he went to mount Manny house, and that's when I my husband dead. Said the young William hatfill was so strong and fears that he could take on the devil himself, which is supposedly where his devil nickname may have come from another room regarding his nickname is revolves around him fighting off a mountain lines of bare hands as youth tougher than devil. Eighteen sixty one devil Hatfield a married. A LeVine shaven daughter of neighboring farmer and right after marrying her off to civil war. He goes fighting on the side of the confederacy. He ended up a local confederacies confederacy supporting militia known as the Logan Wildcats with his.

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"tug fork" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

04:21 min | 2 years ago

"tug fork" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"Origins of those two terms the term redneck counts from sixteenth century Scotland when Presbyterian rebels rose up against the church of England sign manifestos in their own blood hardcore, then we're red close around their necks to signify the rebellion during the bishops war of sixteen forty in Scotland the term hillbilly comes from the term hill folk Scott's from the highlands of Scotland we're called hill folk and then during another war, the sixteen hundreds of Scots who supported king William of England were called Billy boys after their patron king. You know, William king, Billy hill folk who were called Billy boys, then called hillbilly boys, which eventually was shortened to hillbillies and that name followed them to colonial America. And then both the terms redneck and hillbilly became a derogatory racial slurs essentially synonymous with rough rugged ignorant rural folk quick to fight. Maybe. Slow to take up reading and writing and arithmetic and the tug river valley elements this derogatory description actually did fit for many, and I say that someone with a with the Scottish last name of Cummins and over sixty percent British and Irish I'll answers ancestry. Lot of my ancestors were probably some of these rough rugged on educated people education. It was just hard to come by in the valley. There were a few school houses in the region. But kids only ten school for three months out of the year, most dropped out entirely after only a couple years, and the majority of people in the tug valley were illiterate throughout the early nineteenth century this region remained extremely isolated with frontier conditions persisting. They are even as the rest of the region around them progressed and developed the area also suffer from extreme income inequality. Most of the land was owned by small percentage of the population. In some eastern Kentucky counties up to seventy four percent of the population. Landless a minority population of back country elite dominated extremely Krupp, local, politics and hatfields. Mccoy's they belong to this back country elite the patriarchs of each family, were landowners and kept a considerable number of livestock. They held similar social and economic standing. The hatfields were better off what actually ended up becoming quite a bit better off during the few. Just just you know, a a little clip up above the McCoy's. But both clans were were well off for West Virginia kind of tug river valley standards. And they both had a numerous family members serving in local politics in the judiciary system, both Kentucky and West Virginia. And again hatfields would have an advantage. There seemed to be more of them seem to have more prestigious positions around the committee. But both of them had some pull that fills McCoy's occasionally intermarried over the years, and they're intertwined social familial political relationships created a complex network of allegiances that would make feud more complicated. Add to the violence, another important point to make before we get into the time line of the Hatfield mccoys feud is that feuds were not unusual in this area. At this time, no less than six major feud took place in the Kentucky side of the tug. Fork the sandy river in the wake of the civil war and additional also took place nearby Perry and Roane counties a lot of these were partly due to conflicting loyalties in the area during the civil war and then afterwards, both West Virginia Kentucky struggled with union and confederate loyalty. West Virginia was formed when a total of fifty counties chose to succeed from confederate for and former new union estate officially admitted to the union in eighteen sixty three. However, some West Virginia residents, including the hatfields still had confederate loyalty still had confederate sympathies and took it as a sign of treason, if one of their own supported the union these future also partly due to the clannish hillbillies of his area acting like Clinton ability the scotch Irish area. Other poor rural whites wanna Torian clannish. Just like, you know, the courts after the civil war did not protect African Americans. Equal to widen. Reckons? They also didn't protect all white Americans equally in the racial pecking order of white America, this time know, hillbillies, we're at the bottom. These scotch-irish were at the bottom many found strength in numbers due to their rural backwoods kind of living situations. The law wasn't always easy to find. Was often very corrupt, and they just these families would take it upon themselves dole out and seek Justice and the combination clans Vigilanteism that's perfect. You know, kind of environment for feuds most of the foods manifestations of power.

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"tug fork" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

03:06 min | 2 years ago

"tug fork" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"All right. The time and the place today's tale factors. Largely news stories always seems too few to the magnitude of the hatfields versus McCoy's wouldn't take place in America today. Today's laws current level of media coverage just never allow the combination of vengeance. And vigilante Justice to to go on for as long as it did. And yes in actually there weren't many places this series of events could have unfolded elsewhere in mid to late nineteenth century, America. Either a life was just different in the tug valley than it was for for much of the nation. Dentistry was frowned upon clothing. Optional is were Beatty. Many folks walked on four legs instead of two dogs oranges pets, they doubled his actual legal brides for for many valley. Resins a local pastor saw what was inevitable and thought he couldn't stop vomit -able unions. He might as he might as well make him official name is a God hogs or just for love. Neither many hogs actually help provide for their human families taking up farming logging fur-trapping. Jobs put food on their tables, the line between animal and man became blurred. And then legend has it it actually merged and new races of hog folk and dog folk were brought into the world and the tug valley, and and then those hog folk became known as the hatfields and those dog folk became known as the mccoys and everybody knows duck folk don't miss know-how folk now out a few guk. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry life wasn't that different in the valley. And again, I wonder what the people of stairs the noises here from the suck dungeon. The valley where the famous Hatfield McCoy feud to place was nestled in the rural mountainous region of Appalachia nailed it Appalachia. That's not how they say. It's on the pronunciation guides. But I learned I learned last time we were in this region the country that if you are from Appalachia, you don't say Appalachia, that's that. That's how you know. You know, folk, you know, dog folk go. Yeah. Anyway. Yes. Nestled in the rural region of Appalachia at the border of Kentucky and West Virginia right on the border. There was centered on the valley of the tug fork because big old big sandy river, one of the least hospitable parts of the Appalachian highlands here. The tug fork forms both natural and political boundary. Dividing the states of Kentucky in West Virginia. However, while the river did divide the two states didn't divide the tug river valley community, both the Hatfield mccoys. They had relatives on both sides of the river. The hats family had his largest concentration in Logan county. West Virginia in the mccoys were most numerous in pike county Kentucky with the two clans did travel continuously back and forth between West Virginia and Kentucky which just ended up adding to the feud because we're always in contact with one another the tug valley was is extremely remote one of the largest Choubey one of the last areas. Settle in both West Virginia and eastern Turkey. The first settlers mostly of Scottish descent scotch Irish descent arrived from southwestern Virginia around eighteen. Hundred and if you'll recall from the Andrew Jackson, suck these early Scots are the origin of Boza term redneck and the term hillbilly quick recap the.

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"tug fork" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

02:16 min | 2 years ago

"tug fork" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"Pizza gate building secret fortresses. You know, like the one that is supposed to under the Denver airport, and maybe even working with aliens known as the grays and area fifty one and some type of X files scenario and keeping it all hush hush for centuries unable to be proven by academics. But somehow constantly. Posed by David Ikin, Alex Jones, who did not have degrees, obviously investigative journalists. So one of those things one of those things is true shadow government is a sexy an interesting thought, but I just don't buy. Thank you comes razor time. By away. New world. Order sucked. Look forward to the it is the internet eviscerating me in the comment section below this. You do video. Thanks get into time. So team high priest is harmony village camp, Jesse guardian of grammar dope. Ner Reverend Dr Joe paisley time, high priest Alex Dugan the guys bit elixir those wizards danger brain was fantastic brand designers space lizards emerge. Wizards access to peril. Queens suck. Lindsey commons. Another special, thanks to bojangles. Researcher Heather knowledge ninja Rylander suck. And a feud next Monday, maybe the most famous feud in American history, we're talking about the family feud, right? It's a originally hosted. No, we're talking about the hatfields and the mccoys hassles. No choice. I haven't wanted to suck that for a long time. What was the source of this vicious and violent clash between the hats McCoy's in the mid nineteenth century during the most heated years the feud each family has ruled by well known patriarch William Andrew from Hatfield not. Deva lance. Hey appearance of backwoods mountain daughter about eighteen seventies. David Lynch was increasingly successful timber merchant who employ dozens of man, including some course, on the other side has stood Randolph. Oh, Randall McCoy they'll not as prosperous Devlin's Randolph owns from land stock in both families lived long tug fork over the big sandy river snake along the boundary between Kentucky and West Virginia. I van decade-long feared was eighteen sixty five murder Randolph. Brother ASA Harmon lacouer about Logan. Wildcats local militia group that Karen devil Lanson hatfields among its membership relations between the two families soured over the next decade before.

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"tug fork" Discussed on WCHS

WCHS

01:32 min | 3 years ago

"tug fork" Discussed on WCHS

"Dji morning news time is six forty six i'm shona johnson and i'm chris crucial they thought he was outside playing the family members of the young martin county kentucky boy who drowned in the tug fork river on christmas day martin county officials say they believe sevenyearold paul bowen accidentally fell into the water prompting an hour's long search involving first responders from southern west virginia at this point funeral arrangements fourth boy have not been finalized over jinya teenagers facing murder charges for the alleged killing of his girlfriend's parents she's investigating a brutal double murder just three days before christmas our thing her mother and father were shot buckley coud frick her and her husband scott gunned down before dawn family members say their daughter's boyfriend then shot and critically injured himself degree of this year ago the girl's grandmother says lau last week the couple told their daughter to end the relationship after discovery his nazi views on her phone that's abc's stephanie ramos reporting in monetary accounting a morgantown man who allegedly pulled a stolen gun on a law enforcement officer during a traffic stop is behind bars today investigators say fifty year old wilbur maher burn higginbotham was not allowed to have a gun at all three west virginia correctional officers are being sued for sexual harassment abuse officers reportedly from the western regional jailing cattle johnny along with the work release shutters in both charleston in huntington the charleston because at mayo reporting three separate lawsuits were filed tuesday and could all county circuit court the west virginia division.

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"tug fork" Discussed on WCHS

WCHS

02:35 min | 3 years ago

"tug fork" Discussed on WCHS

"Panos panay veil norway here hyungchol wale and their kids will make talent on the floor just lack we always the grandmas fake the path and hang out as a good off thus all round bingo they're really must breathe lens alarm brandon prison prisoners aim amount men now have the good vigorous knows all air murders was everybody welcome back to west virginia outdoors presented with a heavy on mccoy trails this morning we are discussing the average sin plans lying ahead restore the tug fork river in southern west virginia the water that stretches literally from mcdowell county all the way down to the big sandy river down around four gay and wayne county and it forms the border of west virginia and kentucky so many west virginians are probably never even seen this waterway but they this group is hoping to change that because they want the river to be cleaned up and restored in the then marketed in and become a draw to southern west virginia to come down and visit him and take advantage of the waterway you may say what wind the heck when a gravel all the way down to bingo county to go fishing in a a in a in a water that is an absolute mess well it's not the mess that you do not have thought it was over the course of the past 30 years you would probably be amazed at the changes in the transformation that the waterway has taken kevin fry is with the kentucky fish and wildlife department he's the fish biologist for the eastern region of kentucky that includes the tug ford river and he's been with the agency since back in the 1980s and he addressed the crowd back on monday night at that meeting they had and he said you know the the changes in the improvement in just the the quality and the numbers of fish has been remarkable earlier talking about deal from the early made 1980's all for ted foreclosure eyes for russel work in this area all these streams we've seen about in short foreign times increasing the number of fish so uh early 1980's a tag with our electoral fishing same we do from a boat generally we looking at just three or small mathematical seven detained patient hour let me.

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"tug fork" Discussed on WCHS

WCHS

02:01 min | 3 years ago

"tug fork" Discussed on WCHS

"Cats making and canoeing and one wreck cabey's on the current four each here we've got it witnessed sculpted steel paykel aims said war cannot say the storm that spend on voices when we and we'd be trump workers them of the cold river group of they they'd gun magnificent work vulcan the dup get the presentation and i talked about the fringe of cheap up in the northern part of the state that that has been an amazing turnaround of that river so it's not like you have to reinvent the wheel here the template for doing this is here now i take you want your ruin hiccuper sheet rock curious to tighten head off the bill curry aroma career you even i'll be wound up through that area for a long time onomic the defense net rivers is amazing and there's a group on the gone dot doing the same thing huntoon were moving here set of west virginia on our river axis and kind can in activities outside tel tell me row quickly where people can go if they want to learn more about what you are doing here where i live or a facebook page freed the detect four career i really want to thank you for coming down a big fan of residual isn't vice got me down downing we'll we'll continue to follow this z redemption thank you thank you but that's pete runyon from belfry kentucky one of the guys who has certainly been a leader in putting together this this effort to restore the tug fork river well like i said earlier you would not be you would not believe the improvements on the tug for quiver probably because you don't know a whole lot about a most people of west virginia and never even seen the tug corker ever let alone fished it and the image you probably have of it is not what you will or what it is what you think is not what it is in convincing people that that the things have changed is gonna be the task of this group that has now been put together friends the dougyorg river but uh kentucky biologists kevin fried fish biologist kevin fry has been working on this river for a long time.

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"tug fork" Discussed on WCHS

WCHS

02:16 min | 3 years ago

"tug fork" Discussed on WCHS

"And gun oh beauty style man believed shot in a bar shadows down oh no oh god man on their way home to the malays were cheese and soleil oh i can't believe down oh man moody's and we're back out west virginia outdoors merry christmas y'all speaking of that we will be on the air in studio next week live show uh on the what saturday before christmas on monday so it'll be christmas eve eve but yeah i'll be here we'll be live in heck i don't know what will be talking about but we'll get into something won't be too heavy a promise i mean we're not going to that around christmas but by be an opportunity to dish share little bit but eat away will be here next saturday and hope you'll be with us as well we gotta finish up this saturday first though in today's topic is the effort to restore the tug ford river in southern west virginia this is a waterway that over the years has been absolutely abused and misused but you would be amazed at the comeback that his made quite leave it probably not a lot people know about but you know when you've got an effort like this you're always going to have at least one or two people who were just advocates that's what it takes is somebody that is absolutely not going to take no for an answer they want to see this done well in the tug the case of the tug fork that guy is pete runyon i met pete a few years ago he from belfry kentucky and has been a longtime listener to the show and them and he contacted me about this because in what really what he contacted me about was he was he was trying to get a reciprocal agreement for fishing licence on the tug because unlike the ohio and uh and over in maryland the um the north branch subtelny there was no reciprocal agreements between kentucky west virginia to fish there as probably because nobody in frankfurter frankly in.

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"tug fork" Discussed on WCHS

WCHS

02:19 min | 3 years ago

"tug fork" Discussed on WCHS

"Friends of the tug fork which was i guess you would call this their organizational meeting in may what a out they had probably more than a hundred people who were there and really the got a lotta people interested it started out as a social media campaign but from there it cal blossomed into this and the next step will probably be now to start you know putting some things together we need somebody who knows how to do that and then the person in this organization that has experience in this area would be christie bailey christie is the executive director of the national coal heritage area she address the crowd told them a lot about what they were going to have to do because she's been through this and was very instrumental in the work that was done to recover the guy in dot river and i had an opportunity afterwards a talk to her about that in the work that happened on the guy in dot russian gas down the greater canal valley resource of alabama bracing designated by we kind of fold the group back together and started working on getting access sites giving a website giving maps done by sheri's so that we can promote it as a water david started all kind of like this when they got the tug is doing here there were a lot of public meetings and community millions of people together languished purview years but there was always interest in it folks in lincoln county have been done a lot of work very very interested in it so it started like this them so he wrote that group together to move forward on it but i'm a little water superpowers but then suddenly we upstart eulogy work this bill the crowd clearance considerably or if one person leaves the united's canada's area luckily we had him an airport this timber that when we're able to work on the guy and died and he kit that group move forward and so now they're ready to be their own on fox and lew often you had a lotta people here that helped organize the as the new told him over said i've got some experience here let me a least each year asserted in the right direction we we got zero claus von you even if you're the jaguars water he has push the very interested in that june agassi here at maitland is that ecu tale of that so we.

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