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Ultraflex Football
"treylon burks" Discussed on Ultraflex Football
"Than the Patriots and maybe the Texans name a team with a less sexy wide receiver room. Chicago Bears. Yeah, bears was the first one that came to mind. Boom, done. Darnell Mooney's better than anyone that's on there though. Oh, stop it. I'd rather have, well, I'd rather have Burke's treylon Burks than Darnell Mooney just out of pure upside. They also have coal command versus Austin hooper. Dude, Austin hooper's about the ball out this year. He has finished top 5 titles. Probably better season in his career than now I will say met is my boy. So you are absolutely right. You don't want to talk down on him. Name another one. Another writer receiver crew that's what was the two you said? New England and Houston. I like Houston's wide receivers. Well, I like two of them. I think personally, I think their top bottom 5, wide receiver room. Probably aren't great. It's Kenny gallaudet. It was always hurt and a lot of unproven guys. Yeah. I think you're probably right. I mean, they don't have great wide receivers, but they have a ton of potential with Kyle Kuzma. Jacksonville for that. Yeah, I think I would rather have the Titans. Yeah, I would too. I mean, Robert Woods is probably better than Christian Kirk. Yeah. Because the number one. I mean, even if you look at, well, I was going to say the jets, but they have Elijah Moore, and then literally a guy that the Titans got rid of. They had Garrett Wilson. I really have Garrett Wilson, but you just said that the Giants have unproven guys. I mean, garibaldi hasn't proven anything. When I say, when I say, said it like three times, why on a while, it keeps coming sexy. People that I would want to draft and store. Like I would take, yes, trailer, so I would take in, but I would take Elijah Moore or Garrett Wilson before anyone else on the Titans. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. What about the packers here? I'll throw one last one out there. That's pretty good. A couple of rookies and Sammy Watkins. I think it's definitely still probably have a top or a bottom 6 at least wide receiver crew. Cool. Let's pick their games. Brian can't pick them to win every single game? Oh, sorry. Well, I'll make you pick week two because I'm interested to see what you'll say. That beat the bills in week two. We're both picking all of them, right? Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. Rob you go first, New York at home to start the season. Which New York team? It's the Giants. Giants. I do want to say with this one. It could be a potential. I know it's week one, but this could be a look ahead spot for the Titans where they're looking to week two with big money that football matchup with the bills. So I don't think it'd be crazy to say the Titans go out there and lay an egg week one against the Giants. I don't expect them to lose, but I think this could be like a kick a game winning field goal kind of game where they're struggling all game. Giants come out with a new head coach, want to play hard. I could see them losing, but I'll take the Titans. I could see it. But I think the coaching is way too good for the Titans for that to come out and actually manifest this happening. So I'm going to go with the Titans. Want to know, week two. Let's go. I mean, I'm still doing it when they're home opener.
Ultraflex Football
"treylon burks" Discussed on Ultraflex Football
"Getting runs with his starters. He's out there crap in his pants. Actually, he's making other guys crap their pants. He's been doing one on one drills just leaving guys on the ground. This guy is so shifty so quick is routes are crisp. And I think that that's the kind of guy that Tannehill is going to love throwing to. I know treylon Burks is the big name. And you probably don't want to trade for Trey long right now. Unless you got him while all the bad news was coming out that he had asthma and he couldn't stay on the field and also if the owner still feels that way. Absolutely. That was absolutely ridiculous. The guys never played football before. I didn't understand that at all. I think Phillips is a good buy though. Tannehill had Jarvis Landry to throw to plan a similar role that potentially Kyle Phillips could play one Tannehill was in Miami. So can get Kyle Phillips like production out of or sorry, excuse me. Jarvis Landry like production out of Kyle Phillips and maybe not his rookie year, but second year. Eventually. Also. Is there a wide receiver crew that is like less sexy than the Titan screw though? We have Nick Westbrook. You could probably bring up Robert Woods too here though. We have Robert Woods. He's also an ultra by. Yeah, he's every eerie plays he's good. Also like other buys, Hassan Haskins, the running back that they draft out of Michigan. I know that he's going to be the back of the
The MMQB NFL Podcast
"treylon burks" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"Bradford pick up our phone calls? If we give him, if we get married. Oh man. Just kidding. That, by the way, that was the deal with the Titans. We didn't officially introduce it that way. Who moves you emotionally on this roster? I would say, Jeffrey Simmons, right? Let me get me, get me real 2020. Jeffrey Simmons this year. Get me like Aaron Donald light, Jeffrey Simmons. Tear it up. You know, you and bud Dupree on the right side there. Just start carving up defenses. Really make this the full force, the full force defense that I think it could be. Because I think Jeffrey Simmons is so good. And I think he's, I think he's got such a high ceiling. And I would like to see that. I would like to see that unleashed. I think I called him their Aaron Donald last year. You did. So what I did last summer? Yes. Yeah, no, it's really good. And that defensive backfield could be good. You could say that about a lot of teams, but like you've kind of seen it from Christian Fulton. Kevin bayard is still one of the best the best safeties. I think Elijah molden is really good in the slot there. And then, you know, if Caleb Farley ends up being anywhere near a first round caliber player, this might be kind of like it was a couple of years ago when they were, they were pretty stacked in the defensive backfield. And, you know, maybe that's what ends up being the thing that carries this team. As far as the guy who's gonna move me emotionally, I'm gonna look at Robert Woods here. I know everyone's sort of hyper focused on treylon Burks. I don't think Woods is going to necessarily, you know, replicate AJ Brown in this offense, but he's not only a really good veteran receiver, assuming he is back fully from the torn ACL.
Patriots Beat
"treylon burks" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"And I think the biggest thing that you had issues with and looking back on our evaluations of Nikhil Harry and learning from that draft pick and things of that nature, you saw so little true press man coverage. Let's get in somebody's face and let's see if he can win. And the little sample size that Nikhil Harry did have against press man coverage was very poor as it translated to the NFL with the same thing. So I think the biggest thing that I had against the PAC 12 was one, the style of defense that they played was basically let's play a country country spot drop zone. We're going to sit back and cover four shells. Keep the top on the defense and let everything go underneath. And it allowed guys like Michael harriot to catch screen passes and drag routes and then take those for big plays after the catch. And the other thing that I would say is the speed of the conference, especially out in the PAC 12. To me, really took a hit over the last three, four, 5 years, going back to the Nikhil pic. And in that respect, I think that that was something that I saw on tapes with Drake London, for instance, right? Who I wasn't as high on with other people as well is these big receivers, these 6 foot three, 6 foot four guys that are posterizing people in the PAC 12, but are there actually running away from anybody, right? What's their game speed? Are they actually pulling away from defenses? And when you're not pulling away from PAC 12 DBs, I just have concerns from an evaluation standpoint. If you can't run away from a guy in the pack 12, then I really don't feel good about you running away from an NFL defensive back. Whereas when you look at the SEC guys, okay, like I can see AJ Brown pulling away from this guy, that really translates, right? Or even a guy like treylon Burks, who we all kind of soured on because of the 40 time and everything. At least he was out there running away from people in the SEC. So I think that's a big part of it with the PAC 12. So I am interested to see from that respect going into the Big Ten Ohio State Michigan, you know, some of these really blue bud power programs. Let's see what some of these guys look like. Now, in terms of the translation and projecting to the NFL against some of these defenses that have a little bit more overall team speed than what they were going up against in the PAC 12. Well, I think I mean at all positions too, the thing is the PAC 12, like you said, it's a very wide open game. Big Ten is not wide open..
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"treylon burks" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Straight trading backwards from 12 to 32. For what they got. And for what that point of the draft was, because look, you could say whatever you want about drafts, but they always have tears. And there had clearly hit a point in that draft, was there was the one awesome receiver left, even though he was coming off the ACL injury. And then you had two more really, really highly regarded defensive players, and they were going to go in some order, 12, 13, 14. And I just don't understand why you would trade out of that, especially when all of these teams wanted receivers and what you saw a la Vega, you know, what just with the saints paid just to get him, I didn't get that at all. I still don't understand it. Yeah, that was one that was certainly a little bit perplexing, especially trading with a team in your own division in the Detroit Lions to make that move. I like who the Lions went up to God. I like their strategy in general. Now, that's not to say, I don't dislike who the Vikings ultimately selected and they thought that there was some value there in making that move. Louis scene is great. I just think you have to get if you're going down 20 spots, I have to get a first round pick back. That's the history of the draft. That's too many spots. You're going from top 12, we're about to drop off, I need a first. That's the price to do that. And they just didn't get it. Well, there are certain GMs, and I'm not saying the lines team has been there for a while, but there are certain GMs like the Vikings GM. First year guys in the door and some of these guys are not getting the right type of value as they should on some of these trades and GMs like Howie roseman are taking advantage of them and some of the other GMs around the league, taking advantage of some of the more youthful, less experienced GMs that are looking to make moves. And in general, like the common thought processes, you gain value by trading down. Like it is a plus EV move because you're going to get extra picks in doing so and the draft is so difficult to hit on a specific player that having these extra arrows in your quiver will provide more upside, big picture. And that's why generally speaking, you do get more value in doing that. But the Vikings move, I agree, it was one of the more perplexing trade downs based upon what they got in return. Well, especially during the year when the receiver getting the receiver on The Rookie contract was like the new inefficiency because of how crazy the receiver prices got. So even if the lines have to wait, I don't know. To a week 11 for Williams or even next year. It's still worth it. If that guy's a number one receiver, you see that. Exactly. And if you look at the wide receiver run, was basically ended there after crystal lava, like the last guy on the board that was viewed in the same class at the top of the first round is Jameson Williams. After that, it was like Jahan dotson and treylon Burks, who obviously, I believe, the run on wide receivers pulled them up the draft board as well. No question. Nobody thought that John Dodson should be going 16 overall. And yet he was because if you need a wide receiver and all the other guys have already been picked 12, what are you going to do? So that's why those guys got shifted up the board, but that pick at number 12 had so much inherent value at that time. The value increased over that pick as soon as the saints took Chris olave at number 11. Yeah, and that's why I didn't get it. And that, you know, I don't go crazy, but oh my God, I can't believe they took this guy here, but it was just so clear that we're about to go crater. One last thing on the rest edge, you said, since 2015, teams that had a legitimate rest edge, 92 of this is home favorites of three to ten points since 2015, rest edge. 92 and 38. Straight up, 70, almost 71%. And then against the spread at 70, 58 and two. Those are real numbers. Well, those are not only real numbers, Bill. Look at the comparison when you talk about equal rest or rest deficit to see, does this actually matter? I will tell you this. The NFL tries to say that this is a minor thing. This doesn't really matter that much. And so if that's true, we should be able to look back at historical data and that's why they probably don't want to look at the point spread element of it. But the point spread is the equalizer that we need to factor into context. So you had equal was 45% and if there's a deficit, it was 40.8 against the spread. So we went from 54.7 to 45 to 40.8 if there was actually a deficit. Those are real numbers. Those are definitely real numbers. And the reason I'm segregating out home favorites of three to ten points is because we want to look at the team that is viewed as better. The better team in general should have more of an advantage if they have a rest edge. They should be in a better position because think about it like one of the reasons you guys end up doing pretty well, you've got a great coaching staff. You know how to prepare the players if you have a short Thursday game, you know what needs to happen? Whereas an inexperienced coach or a bad coach may not know the right strategy to get this team ready for a short week road game on a Thursday night like Belichick does. And so looking at home favorites of three to ten points generally we're talking about this team is viewed as the Betty market as the superior team and double digit favorites are generally speaking terrible, whether you're gonna look at, rest edge, not rest edge. So you could include them if you want to or you could take them out like I did is really not gonna do a make a difference to the general comparison which is these teams that are viewed as the better team by the Las Vegas betting market when they play at home. If they have a rest edge, they're covering the spread almost 55% of the time. If they have equal rest, it's down to 45% of the time. That's basically a ten percentage point differential. And then if they have a deficit, even though their viewed is the better team, they're down to 40.8% ATS. As you said, real numbers. These are things that are different speakers. Different major digital especially with a tease too. If you're getting, if I know I get 55% to cover this straight up, then I know you hate teases, but you're never going to make me a house quit. If I get that on a teaser number, that maybe that's up to like 75%, something like that. Just to win the game. Easily. And I think the difficult part for somebody listening to the show right now is, okay, so you're telling me these numbers, but how do I know you told me the big picture rest advantage? How do I know on a per game basis during the season who's got the rest edge? Because most of you already know. Most people aren't sitting at home like running these calculations. What I will tell you is I am planning on this year in the book. The 500 page book for every single team chapter on the very first page of that team's chapter. I'm going to tell you every single week if this team has a rest advantage or a rest disadvantage in that game. And that.
Patriots Beat
"treylon burks" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"On. And then maybe they'll get the hit, right? Taekwon Thornton is everything the Patriots have refused to draft. For the last 20 years at the wide receiver position. And that's why I'm excited about it. I'm not saying that, oh, you know, he's definitely going to hit. But they didn't do the same thing again and again. It's not the same thing. It's not like, I think even some people knew with Nikhil like this isn't going to work, right? This isn't their treylon Burks, then that's the same thing, right? Even if I would say even to a degree, if they had drafted a guy like George pickens, I think George pickens is much faster than Nikhil Harry, but it's still that big outside receiver who's got weight translated speed. Right. There's the injury concerns. That feels like Malcolm Mitchell wish, Chad Jackson ish. They needed speed on offense. They needed size and speed on offense. Yeah. They got size and speed on offense. Like, I know that that said, oh, that's too simplistic. It's really not. That's what the draft is. That's what it is. They needed size and speed they got size and speed, it was the fastest capable receiver on the board. I like to pick. I really, really do. And then it's a rare combination. It's not just the speed. It's the rare combination of size speed and body control. Like he's not a great route runner. Hopefully they figure it out this time. And we've had I don't remember who it is. But we had some guy in the comments who comes on here all the time and talks about the Patriots, you know, it's not going to be now the McDonald's has gone, it's not going to be the Patriots offense. They're going to run Mac Jones's Alabama offense. Right. And there's been some indications of that. This off season, they're moving away from the full back. Getting more athletic at the guard position if that's the case, you don't need taekwondo to be a great route runner. Slants and goes, slants fades and goes. And he can do that. That's what he can do. So I'm also going to be clamoring all season long for him to be running deep crossing routes too. I just think that that's the easiest way in my opinion now deep overs that the Kansas City Chiefs made deep over is cool, right? Tyreek hill going across the field on the deep over out is what made that take off in the entire NFL. And I look at Thornton and I'm just saying that ability as well. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying that like I don't think he needs to run all these double moves and all these complicated routes. Like one cut routes. You can have him just run one cut routes and he will be productive in that in that role. I really like to pick and then the other thing is too, this frees up. I don't know that they'll do it now because I think you got to see where he's at at camp. This frees up them to maybe move Nelson Aguilar. They're a little redundant if thorton's still a year or again, I wouldn't do it now if Thor and still a year away, you do the red shirt, but if Thornton comes out and he's lighting it up in camp, then you can maybe move Nelson agro. I think he gets some form. Maybe you get like a decent corner, maybe you get another offensive lineman, maybe you might be able to get a top one 50 pick for him next year. So I think that's a good move. From a roster building.
Patriots Beat
"treylon burks" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"I don't think the gap is going to be in the fourth. Fair enough. You also wonder how much ultimately who are they targeting because at this point, your guess is as good as anybody's, right? Who the heck knows? So get me John matchy and Troy Anderson. If they do that today. I think they might be able to stay at 54 and get matchy. It's a weird draft, so I'm not a 100% sold on anything. So here's why I think that. Yeah, because Jameson Williams fell. Clearly, teams are a little more concerned about the ACL than maybe we thought. Now, met she's ahead of the process. Yeah. I'm just going to give you according to reports. So right. And I don't know who's saying I said they wouldn't take matching on Bertrand. I said that he would be the checks every box, assuming his knee is fine. I think there is a chance that she falls just based off Jameson Williams falling in them being in similar situations. Then again, Johan Dawson went, where did John Dawson went high? 16. So the receivers are kind of pushing up. I was actually thinking maybe leading in the treylon Burks would fall out of the first round that obviously didn't happen. It's going to be a flavor thing. Do teams want the team sitting on the board if they want to slot, it's sky more than probably matchy. If you have a bunch of teams to run outside receivers, mention probably is a little more time because you have a Christian Watson. You have George pickens. Alex. I don't even know where David bell is projected anymore. Former projected Tommy. 15 pick David bell. Is he down to day three? Yeah. I'll give you credit. You were on that one. You watched him, you texted me. You were like, what? Yeah. Never saw any sort of place for you with David bell. Like I never thought he was fast and how many random people have pencil limited 54, Evan. Oh my goodness. Don't do that to me, all right? So if they're going to move up in the third round or second round, excuse me tonight, and target a player, it does feel like it's gotta be on defense, right? I just want the wide receiver as much as anybody else does. But at this point, I really do think that they would dig defense with that pick. If they're going to stick with the senior bowl small school guys, like Troy Anderson's right there, right? Cole strange, like it's a similar Troy Anderson or even Zion McCollum, who's also an FCS guy..
Patriots Beat
"treylon burks" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"For? We got three. Kenny Pickett, treylon Burks, Malik Willis. Those are the three guys who realistically aren't expected to go ahead of the Patriots. You could maybe throw Chris olave in there. That's four. So if we're saying Johnson ceiling or floor is 12 to 15, and then those four guys go ahead of it, well now you're in business. And that's kind of how this works. So Marcus mosher has Jermaine Johnson at 17 on his consensus report. So we're talking about four spots, right? So a couple of things happened. And that's I'm guessing that's not like a mock drafting. That's just ranking talent. Yes, right? So four spots, pick it. Burke's Willis. There's three. And then if you want to call it a lot, if you want to say a lava, mcduffie, whoever, there's your four. Right. That's how it works. Can we go over those college numbers real quick? I'm just curious. I want your thoughts on these. Yeah. Go ahead. So this is something I did earlier today. In 20 plus years, there's 8 power 5 schools Bill Belichick is not drafted from. Clemson, duke, Indiana, Kansas, Kansas state, Oregon state, Utah, Washington state. You got some hit or miss programs in there. You got some, I mean, Kansas is Kansas. They're not very good. Indiana's not very good. Duke's not very good. Oregon state Utah kind of come and go. Clemson stands out. Yeah. Is it just 'cause he knows that Davos a tool? It's interesting. Clemson's very different. Most of those other schools are in and out bull eligible. Clemson at least for the last ten years has been a title condense. So defensively when I look at or think about Clemson and under dabo, I automatically think of brand venables is now the head coach of Oklahoma, right? Is there a defensive mastermind or was for the better part of those last decade? Venables is known for being one of the more exotic defensive play callers at any level of football. We're talking fire zone sim pressures. I mean, you throw the kitchen sink of scheme at all these different quarterbacks, right? And our blitz and guys from all over the place, your coverage rotations are extremely exotic and I think that they might look at that defensive scheme and not see a ton of translation into the patriot scheme of what they do. It's more zone based. Like I said, more blitz zone, I would say than anything to do with man. And a lot of it is venables counting on the fact that college quarterbacks are raw processors and just don't see the field well. And he knows if he all of a sudden starts throwing weird blitzes and guys coming from different angles and stuff like that that he's going to catch a lot of these young kids off guard. And it's worked for them, obviously, to a big degree. But I think when you look at the Patriots, believe it or not, and I think a lot of people look at it and say, oh, Bill Belichick's always cooking up things in the lab and stuff. The Patriots from a coverage standpoint, their system is pretty basic and standard. It's cover one. It's own match cover three. It's pretty standard stuff. The success is based on talent, not skiing. And it's a lot of it's also predicated on everybody understanding their piece of the puzzle and doing their jobs such a high level. And they coach these things so well. That they're able to do that. But you talk to a lot of coaches around the league and you hear a lot of people say, you know, the Patriots, they're covered system is not that exotic..
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"treylon burks" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Checkout. That is 25% off anything you order when you use promo code BS at liquid IV dot com experience better hydration today. At liquidity dot com from a code BS. All right, Danny high Fitz is here in Craig world Beck is here from the ringer fantasy show, which is called the ringer draft show. It's got like two identities. Yeah, moonlights is a draft show. We're gonna play a game. We're trying to do this in 20 minutes or less. Let's see if we can pull it off. We're gonna do a game. All the running backs receivers and tight ends. What we think their value is as assets. So this is like a cousin of a trade barrier game. The reason we're doing this is because debo Samuel is available. And producer Steve Surrey was like, where does he rank? How important is it that deebo Samuel is available? So let's start with deebo and then we'll play the game. How important is debo Samuel to you? Is he worth two first round picks? The price, the price for tyrique, the price for devonta Adams, it's like floating between like a first and a second. Other guys like Jamal Adams is worth two first rounders. Does he wear two first rounders to you? I think the tricky thing is that it's so hard to divorce him from Shanahan and the forty-niners in my mind. I feel like to the forty-niners, yes, kind of, because we just watched the playoffs and debo was, he made me feel like I was watching the past the football in the future at the same moment. I feel like it's like Jim Thorpe or something. Someone playing every position at once, but also really I think debo, it reminded me actually of like Joel embiid, the 7 footer who's knocking down three pointers at the end of the game. It's like, how do you guard him? Who do you put on him? Doesn't matter what you do you're wrong. That's what deebo is, where you treat them like a running back, will they shift them out to receive? You treat them like a receiver, shift them in. He changes everything for defense. I just don't know if he's going to stay on the field. That's my concern. It's mine as well. What do you think, Craig? Yeah, I think there's some Shanahan cockiness to this where he's like, I can do this with anybody. So I don't need to pay you $25 million a year depot. I can draft treylon Burks and do it again. He had ten receiving touchdowns in his entire career. In 11 rushing touchdowns is an entire career. So 21 total, he missed some games in 2020. Last year is healthy, but took a lot of hits. You know, when you think about when you watch certain athletes, I remember Earl Campbell was.
Patriots Beat
"treylon burks" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Yes. We have, if we're trading back, we're trading out of the first round. Okay, well, I don't want to trade out of the first round. I think the sweet spot to me to trade back to we've done this before, and we know that if we trade all the way back to 32, like we did last time, we're going to lose key, right? We know, here's the one thing I'd say, hypothetically. How dumb do we think Washington is? Because in theory, this pick could be insanely valuable. I don't think they're going to create that picture. That could be a top ten pick. All right, yeah. Look, I guess we didn't talk about lender bong. I get your concerns with pending red shirting, Linda bomb might come right in and start. He's a skills talk, you don't think he played art. He's two 95. He's a center. All right. He's really undersized to play guard. He's a center. We can look at the edge group. I'm really high on Boeing. From Minnesota. I think he's a good player. I think this is a little bit too early for him. I would say if we're going to go edge, they may see tremendous value in David O jabo potential. He's going to be at the home here because of an injury. Yeah. Right. So it's another red shirt thing in, but I could see them doing it. I'm saying I could see the background. Let's look at the some of the teams in the 20s. I feel like we can manufacture a trade down here. We got to be able to. So we looked at this in nice spot, right? Like what if they have interior line needs? They could be coming up for Linda bomb. They don't have a second round pick though. Okay. So unless we're adding future picks. So why can't we do something like 26 90 and try to stack some of their day three picks together, right? Or someone top 100 picks. I want top 100%. If you get some of those day three picks and you can move those picks back up into the top 100, right? You can take one 27 pair it with one 31 and move back up like the Patriots. I would honestly rather do this at that point. All right, I guess we could compromise if you want to compromise and trade it for a future pick. The way I look at it, I guess the trade back in, right? So you can take one 31 and maybe like one 69 from them or something like that. But this is now this is too much. They're giving up their whole draft to move a 5 spot. Yeah, that's too much. That's not realistic. You know what? Treylon Burks did fall. Do you think what traded with the bucks last time, didn't we?.
Patriots Beat
"treylon burks" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"He definitely can run, right? So we checked that box. That's not the problem. So now the question is, can you fix the technique? Can you get them to be CRISPR and more efficient while he goes through the breakpoint? I think the Patriots can get them there. I think that he's worth it. I think the other thing I really liked about him is that he's an alpha. That's a guy that doesn't back down. He went up against Jameson Williams. He went up against treylon Burks. He went up against all these dogs in the SEC, right? Like all these great wide receivers. And he never backed down from anybody. And he was ready to go and all those matchups. And he won some. Day won some, you know, it was really something to really be impressed by was how he rose to the occasion and really came up and stepped up to the challenge. So that was something that I liked about him as well, because if you're going to play corner in the NFL, you're going to get beat a lot. So you're going to have to have that short memory and you're going to have to have that confidence. Yeah, it's set up for you to get beat. Like if you're a corner, the whole game is designed for you to lose. Right, so yeah. Yeah. Can we get to the late round corners though? Because that was the highlight of the combat. Yeah, I mean, I want to say one thing really quickly. Okay. I don't want them to draft anybody from the PAC 12. It.
Patriots Beat
"treylon burks" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Pre gaming, the workouts that are going to begin here in less than one hour. We also got a lot of measurables today for the wide receiver class in particular. That's our main focus is going to be during the show. Obviously for the Patriots and their needs in this draft, not really a quarterback draft for the Patriots, certainly not a tight end draft for New England either. So it's going to be a big emphasis on wide receivers. All weekend long for the Patriots, but especially tonight, when we get to see some people run, I want to start here with the measurables that came out and we were talking about this before we hit record or hit live here. And that is how small some of these wide receivers are in this class. Really at the top of the class in particular is what I'm talking about outside of Drake London and treylon Burks. This is a pretty marginal class in terms of height, weight, that sort of thing, a bunch of guys coming in under one 90 that are gonna be interesting to the Patriots, Chris a lobby, Garrett Wilson, Jahan dots, and under one 80. Jameson Williams, although he's recovering from that ACL surgery. So maybe he dropped a few pounds because he's not lifting right now coming in at one 79. John metchie, one 87. So all these guys under one 90, that tells me although we're not gonna see the Bama guys here tonight, the 40 yard dash times for all these guys that are under a buck 90 in terms of weight are gonna be critical. And you can throw a Wanda Robinson in there as well from Kentucky who is 5 8 one 75, one 81 78, one 78, right? All of the suspects are.
New England Patriots Press Pass
"treylon burks" Discussed on New England Patriots Press Pass
"What the NFL scouting combine in full swing on Wednesday, a lot of news and notes and regards to the Patriots and we start with meetings. Yes, combine meetings, probably the biggest part for teams now in Indianapolis other than the medical evaluations that their team physicians do in India every single year is meetings, getting face to face with their personnel execs and the top draft picks in the NFL Draft in 2022 and the Pats are doing their homework on this wide receiver class. We've already reported on the fact that the Patriots met with three of the top wide receivers so far in indie and Ohio State's Chris olave, Alabama's Jameson Williams and Arkansas wide receiver treylon Burks on top of those three. We can also add to the list more top prospects out of the wide receivers meeting with New England and Alabama's John metchie who played with Mac Jones at Alabama and had a great rapport with Mac during that national championship season in 2020 and Kentucky do it all gadget wide receiver Juan Dale Robinson also confirmed a meeting with the New England Patriots brass in Indianapolis. So you have pretty much every top wide receiver prospect in the draft telling reporters in indie that they have met with New England at some point in the process. This goes on the heels of a lot of rumors connecting the Patriots to trade targets as well, such as Calvin Ridley, the Atlanta Falcons, and at this point, although this could just be smokescreen for the Patriots and we should mention that these meetings come with a grain of salt. This is a fact finding mission in Indianapolis. The Patriots are doing their due diligence by talking to all these wide receiver prospects and just because they had a meeting with them at the combine. Doesn't necessarily indicate that they are interested in drafting that player in April. But still, the Pats are kicking the tires on every available wide receiver. And at this point, it would be shocking if a legitimate wide receiver impact type of player at that position was not brought in by Bill Belichick this off season. We also heard from former patriots offensive coordinator and current raiders head coach Josh McDaniels, he was asked a lot of patriots questions at the podium today in the convention center in Indianapolis..
Patriots Beat
"treylon burks" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"How you're weary about Juan Dale because there's not really a role for him in the current offense as it exists and you're not confident with the fact that they'll be able to create that role for him. That's basically how I feel about Burke's. Even if he has an electric athlete, I just see them having him go out there and running curls 20 times a game because that's what they did with Nikhil Harry, right? Or verticals where he's trying to win on contestant catches all the time or something like that. So give me the guy who I know can fit in seamlessly can take over role that already exists in mastery instead of a guy that they've got a carve out a new role for. I'm on the same page as you. I like to play devil's advocate because I love Trey Lambert as a prostitute. When I evaluated the draft of Nikhil Harry in 2019, I had Harry and AJ Brown closer than I should have. I thought that they profiled pretty similar. I thought they both had the same strengths and weaknesses. What I slept on was that AJ Brown was a much better athlete than Nikhil Harry, right? Because Nikhil Harry looked like a good athlete, but he wasn't actually his translatable as an athlete and explosiveness in the open field as AJ Brown. AJ Brown ran a much better 40 time. I'm just expecting cherry long birds to run an even better 40 time than AJ Brown did. So that's to me where I'm at coming out with that, but I'm with you that I would prefer a lava and jamison over a Trey lamberg for the reasons that you laid out. The fact that we have seen that player, the treylon Burke's player, fail multiple times here in New England with them trying to go after that kind of guy, right? And they haven't been able to figure it out. And I would also mention that early on in treylon Burke's career, he's going to have to have some scheme touch elements to his game, right? Jet sweeps screens, just finding ways to manufacture touches. And I'm not sure what their current offensive coaching staff that I'm going to fully trust Joe judge and Matt Patricia to be able to scheme touches for treylon Burks. It's the same. Like you said, it's the same thing as Wanda Robinson, just a little bit earlier in the draft. But we remember we said that about Nikhil Harry too, how long were we waiting for them to run all these tunnels screens with the cute hairy and the pop pass. It even John who Smith now, like, I just think we're going to be sitting here in 6 months or whatever it is talking about, well, why aren't they getting in the ball? Why aren't they figuring out ways to get them the ball or is Chris olave and their offense is going to be a magnet for the football? Yeah, that's definitely fair. I want to take a second to shout out our sponsors at bet online dot AG football might be over for the season, but basketball is in full steam for both pro and college hoops from all the latest odds totals player performance props to where the next fired coach is going to land..
Patriots Beat
"treylon burks" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"He is a vertical route runner. He's not, this is not Julian Edelman, this is not Wes Welker, right? This is somebody that gets up the field. He can get up the field in a hurry. He's got really good initial burst off the line of scrimmage to threaten defensive backs, but he's also very, very clean at the top of the route and probably the best route break receiver in this entire draft is in terms of the limited wasted movement at the top of the route, right? A lot of these other guys takes you couple steps to gather, break, plant, you know, do that sort of thing. A lot of it is in and out, right? I mean, he's really quick in and out of the break. We got to talk about trailing Burks though, because this guy, to me, is not Nikhil Harry, but I understand why a lot of fans that watch treylon Burks is highlights that go through some of his film or even read up on treylon Burke's, are going to say, this is exactly like Nikhil Harry. They'll concern that I have with that line of thinking is one. Birx is going to run in probably the fourth reasons, right? So he's quite a bit faster than Nikhil Harry was. Nikhil Harry is a mid four 5s guy. This is a four threes guy at two 25. He's a difference maker with the ball on his hands. The other thing I would mention is if you're so weary of not making the same mistake twice on Nikhil Harry, then that's how you missed on AJ Brown, right? Because Nikhil Harry and AJ Brown coming out, there wasn't a ton of difference in their profiles. The difference was that AJ Brown was a more explosive athlete. And that's how we ended up here. So I would just be aware of the fact that you could run into a position where all of a sudden you miss out on the next AJ Brown, or you miss out on the next debo Samuel because you're so concerned about not drafting the next Harry, if that makes sense. But see, I think something you said there kind of proves my point in that how similar Harry and Brown were coming out of the draft. It's that nature versus nurture thing. Like, this is a big thing in psychology. How do you study our change effects? People, you know, they try to find twins who grew up in separate environments to see okay. Well, you know, how is this going to work? It's almost like that, right? You kind of took the same player the same raw skill set and you put them into environments and what happened. You got to kill Harry, you got AJ Brown. It's not about when you say, you know, when we say, oh, and we're in treylon Burks would end up like tequila Harry. That doesn't really have to a lot to do with treylon Burks. It's more so we saw a player of this prototype in New England very recently, how did it turn out? I think if Burke's lands in the right spot, he'll be a fantastic NFL player. I really do. I like him as a player. I just don't think that spot is New England. I would rather see them and they may not have this choice. I highly doubt both of these guys are on the board of 21. I really don't think either it's going to be on the board of 21. But just for argument's sake, if they had to choose between the two, I would rather see them go with a guy like a lava because he's going to fit in more seamlessly. And we talked about this on the last show of it in terms of Wanda Robinson, right?.