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Fresh update on "trey lance" discussed on Patriots Beat
"With the rams, Sean mcvay looked at that situation and he said, there is no way that I am going to compete here in and year out with Jared Goff. And I need to upgrade at the quarterback position with Matthew Stafford. And they went out and they made that trade for Matthew Stafford. So the problem that you have that you run into, I'm not saying that this is necessarily going to be the problem with Mac Jones because I think that Mac Jones is maybe better than all of us thought, right? All of us myself, I'm talking about myself right now that I thought. But the question is is what's your ceiling as an offense? What is your ceiling as a team? And less Mac Jones turns into Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, or one of these guys at one with that kind of skill set. What is the ceiling? Because in Los Angeles, they decided the ceiling wasn't high enough. And they move on from Jared Goff, and they'd make the trade for Matthew Stafford. In San Francisco, they decided the ceiling wasn't high enough with Jimmy G and they trade all those picks to move up the draft Trey Lance. And all these teams are looking at it and they're saying, if we're truly going to compete for super bowls and we're truly gonna win championships, the ceiling is capped with guys like Jimmy G with guys like Jared Goff. And that's why teams are swinging and missing on people like Zach Wilson. And I haven't missed yet on Zach Wilson, but you understand my point. So here's what I would say to that. I don't think I certainly don't think Jericho's net neutral. I don't think he's a good quarterback. I'm lucky qualifies as a net neutral. I would not consider him so ceiling with Ryan Tannehill, right? Well, they could have stayed healthy when they had a defense. I mean, they got the AFC championship game. San Francisco ceiling was Super Bowl. She and a hand blew it, and that's another conversation. I don't think Kyle Shanahan's a very good coach when it comes to game like game management, but San Francisco was right there that they had the Super Bowl they let it slip from their fingers. I think the ceiling was there. The other part of this plan that maybe I haven't articulated right? Because I think we've ever gotten this far in the conversation.
Browns' Mayfield out with shoulder injury, Keenum starting
"Their top quarterback under center this weekend but the Browns will be without theirs on Thursday Baker Mayfield will sit out Cleveland's game against the Broncos with a painful left shoulder injury Mayfield suffered the injury last month that continues to be bothered by it case Keenum will start on Thursday the Niners are optimistic Jimmy grapple complaint against the colts on Sunday night after missing the previous game his backup won't be Trey lance who sprained his left knee while filling in for Karabo I'm the ferry
"trey lance" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"He's capable of that. But I would use that sparingly with trail Lance. I would not I thought Kyle Shanahan leaned on it a little bit much against Arizona. And I just don't think you can do that every week for ten years and expect trailing to stay healthy the entire time. It's not sustainable long-term. It may not be Kyle's plan to call games like that every week. But I watch Trey Lance take some pages during that first game that made me cringe and go. Oh, that may not be sustainable long term, and we'll see what their long-term plan is in San Francisco. Now, the last thing I want to say, I want to give a shout out to Cardinals defensive and JJ watt. He played fantastic. He blew up a couple plays. There's an early run on second and four in particular where JJ watt had a huge tackle for loss. Shout out to JJ watt that's a fantastic football player and breaking down film for Trey Lance. He got to watch some JJ watt and go. This is some really really good stuff by JJ watt. All right, coming up, I'm going to take a short break when I return, ask Zach and the top stories for the NFL and college football this weekend. My name is Zach Schaumburg. I'm going to take a short break..
Cardinals use Hopkins, stellar defense to beat 49ers 17-10
"The Andre Hopkins hauled in a difficult nine yard touchdown catch with five thirteen left to give the cardinals a seventeen seven lead it is seventeen ten downing of the forty Niners Kyler trusted me to give me the ball right there in this situation check it out of the place going to a one on one match of the refill or was favorable Kyler Murray completed twenty two of thirty one passes for two hundred thirty nine yards to help the cardinals improved to five in a row for the first time since nineteen seventy four Hopkins caught six passes for eighty seven yards rookie Trey lance finished fifteen of twenty nine passing for one hundred ninety two yards and one interception in his first career start for the forty Niners he also led the team with eighty nine yards rushing I'm Dave Ferrie
Russell Wilson leads Seahawks past 49ers 28-21
"Russell Wilson tossed touchdown passes to decay met captain Freddie Swain the Seahawks twenty twenty one win over the forty Niners at Levi's stadium Wilson would complete sixteen of twenty three for a hundred and forty nine yards as Seattle ends a two game losing skid thinking about losing three in a row thing about losing whining about losing two eyes don't think about it it's not in my repertoire I was on my thought process because we don't think about it as the about women so yeah I think the biggest thing is winning the winning winning the process every week every day that's why we've been able to be so successful San Francisco would turn to rookie quarterback Trey lance in the second half after starter Jimmy Garoppolo's left with a calf injury let's Withrow for a hundred and fifty seven yards and two touchdowns I'm Mike Reeves
"trey lance" Discussed on Niners Nation
"Forty niners i. We always want to make sure you're up to date on the news on this show. So with brahima. Cirque on for the year john michael hasty out for a while with a high ankle. Sprain and trae sermon and elisha mitchell iffy for this week. The forty niners made a move at running back signing. Jacques says patrick off the bengals practice squad now before he was in cincinnati. Patrick was actually a member of the xfl's tampa bay vipers. Now he's not a burner. I believe you only ran a four six. Nine forty yard dash at florida state's pro day. But he is the biggest running back kyle. Shanahan has ever had with the forty niners. Six to two hundred thirty four pounds. He might not be able to run those outside zones but he's got some power there now. Let's get to the main point. I wanna make on today's show basically the forty niners communication and messaging. When it comes to trae lance stinks. Listen to this question and answer from kyle. Shanahan's conference call on monday. Plan not to use trae lance against the eagles. Or did the way the game unfold prevent you from inserting in place No i never have a plan that. I'm hey i'm gonna use her. I'm not gonna use them. Always an option throughout the game. I've been to games. And i've never had them in the openers and i've never had him as a designated time on doing that week to week and whenever i feel like putting them in you saw when i did and week one I never got that urgent week too. So there you go you just heard kyle say. He never has a plan that he's either going to use trae lance or not going to use them. Now listen to jimmy garoppolo on the rich eisen show yesterday after he was asked. If he gets a heads up before a game about trae lance potentially getting snaps sort of. I think you you kind of know what the situations You know the first game we got into the red zone and then they brought trae in but you know this game like we had plans for him to come in and it just didn't end up working out that way and you know it's kind of one of those things you got to be ready to roll. And when you know if he calls trae in their college and there it is what it is but You can't think about it too much. I'd say there you go. You just heard jimmy. Just said we plan to use him and it didn't end up working out that way. So what the hell's going on. Why is kyle shanahan. Not telling the truth. And by the way for the record. I get why. Nfl coaches. don't tell the truth. Okay i know they all lie. But here's the thing they lie for a reason okay. They lie to gain some sort of competitive advantage or at least what they think is a competitive advantage. But that's not what cow shanahan's doing. What is the competitive advantage of telling us whether or not he has a plan to use trae lance ahead of time or not from the beginning the forty niners communication about this whole situation has been horrible at different points. This off season kyle. Shanahan has set jimmy. Garoppolo is the starter. Then he said he'll play whoever's better then he said he's comfortable running two quarterback system going series to series or play to play. And now he's saying he never has a plan for trae. Lance and jimmy garoppolo is saying he actually does have a plan for trailer. It's it doesn't make any sense to me. And it never will. And i really wish that kyle shanahan would get challenged on some of this stuff because it's so so frustrating also later on in that interview with rich is and jimmy was asked if he wants to be in san francisco. Long-term you want to stay in san francisco. Is that what you want like to to be able to do. What rogers is done and brady obviously even did to you. Jimmy is that your play just cannot allow the organization to maybe move onto a drafted plan. Is that you know. There's a i don't know to be completely honest. I haven't thought that far ahead yet and one of those things that i'm so tied up with the season and everything we got going on. If if i could repeat with aaron did last year i would love to do that. That guy i mean. Mvp speaks for itself. Do a hell of a year though. So if i get you know replicate anything similar that i'd i'd be thrilled with it but you know after this year. We'll we'll figure that out when we get there you know it's We've got a long way to go. We're only a couple of weeks into this thing. That's a smart answer from jimmy. I mean i can't blame him for not wanting to commit one way or another. I can't imagine wanting to stay in san francisco much longer. Frankly after the team sniffed around every possible quarterback for two years including right. After i went to the super bowl and they trade three first round picks to move up to draft. One i get. Why jimmy garoppolo would wanna go somewhere else even though. I don't think he's a great quarterback from his perspective. He wants to start and he wants to be secure in his job every single week. That's natural. I mean anybody would want to do that. We always give you one thing to read one thing to watch and one thing. You might have missed something to read on this wednesday if you were already looking ahead to the game against the packers on sunday dalton johnson has a great piece on nbc sports bay area dot com about kyle shanahan and.
"trey lance" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"With us. We can't wait to have you. A forty niners used a quarterback platoon in their preseason finale bringing in trae lands to replace jimi on the offense fourth play of the game alternating to signal callers on the first two drives of their win against the raiders. Both those drives ended with touchdown runs by the quarterback. I buy garoppolo and second by land and after the game how shannon seemed happy with how gainsay one take a listen. I thought they did a good job. I mean by no means is perfect. But i thought just the function of it and going in and out and not knowing when it's going to be You know wasn't planned rotation or anything. I was trying to make it situational. So i was just doing it. Mainly impulse and You know whenever the down and distance it felt like what we wanted to call so Those guys seemed like the handle. The good Me with him tomorrow. Watch all with them. Which i'm looking forward to but Today at that was good off shannon no not like this Skip if you have something design now part of part of a team skipping you were covering the cowboy that they get a tab where. We alternated the quarterbacks. Just like you alternate running back so you alternate receivers every single play. Tommy madison sean. More one would come in run a play run up to feeder coming into play run that we did that is because was it dan. Rea data reads yes because he watch tom landry. Try to get away with them so skip. I don't think disobey work like this now. You wanna have a series. And i don't really know if you can do a series. Maybe a play here or there but to try to do this for the entirety of the game to say okay. You got this series. Okay you got that series you got deflate. You got that play. Don't think it will work. But he said. Look what i was trying to do is try to make a situation in certain situations where i thought it would be. Bill official to get trained there. We did that in other situations where i thought it'd be better if we had jimmy in there. We did that so there was no rhyme or reason for me doing what i did. I did it. Lamar jackson and joe flacco bad quarterbacks. And this is a very similar situation. Although jim or jimmy d more mobile than joe flacco they found a way to get lamar some some runs. They let him run the ball. You know design runs. They let the ball. Also joe flacco category injured. The mark comes ahead and any doesn't look back so skip for me. I think that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to find a way to get him on the field so next year. When they start fresh with trae lance it will be like a situation. He really hadn't played their tried to give it up to speed with the speed of the nfl game. What what to look for some of the keys. 'cause he's nineteen forty one forty six percent completion three one inception but he took six sacks and so i think college trying to get ready so this is this game with a lot faster than than what you played at north dakota state and you we need your anticipatory skills to increase tenfold. So this is why. I believe jimmy johns gonna start and skipping. They'll have a better game plan. I agree with. I think he was just experimenting to see what he can and what. He can't get away what he could when he couldn't get away with you. You can't. You can't run quarterback like this okay so to your point. The for the oldest cliche and all of football is if you have two quarterbacks you have zero riot two quarterbacks you have none okay and i basically agree with that premise. Because in nineteen seventy one. I wasn't yet covering cowboys. Because it's even before my time but nineteen seventy-one they got to game seven at chicago and it got so bad. Between roger staubach the up and comer and the income craig morton who was a statue in the pocket as opposed to roger dodger some trae lance and could run with at about six to two twentyish that it got so bad. Tom landry was so indecisive that he was the first to say. I'll just alternate them. And then i can tell one what the play is. So that he'll hear from my lips. There was no communicated cabot. Okay so i can tell him what the players and watch this and watch that and then he could run in and call it while the other ones running off the field and it was a disaster because the bears weren't very good. They've played out chicago and lost twenty three to nineteen to fall to four and three and the next week. Tom landry said. I've seen enough. I'm going with the kid who was not really kid. Because he'd been in vietnam so he was an older kid right but he threw roger staubach in and gave him the team and great things happen. They win their next ten. And it's super bowl history because they finally broke through in beat miami in the super bowl. But that's the way that's the way they brought plays in and you send the running back in houston the wide receiver in with the players. Like you say nobody was signaling in the no flip card that they had no headset. Okay i got it so now. Back to what i saw yesterday. My second shock of the day after watching jerry jones play nobody in the cowboy game no star on either side of the ball is i turn on san francisco and here we go with jimmy. Jean okay okay. And then it's the fourth play of the game. The fourth play guess who trae lance in the game right. And he's in for a play garoppolo seems to happily run off to know what's going on. Framing me to go along with it. He's good after the game talking about it so he runs old played moster swings wide and it gets good yardage yes and then jimmy g. comes back on. And then he plays one step and then trae lines comes back into place four straight snaps and then finally jimmy g. comes all the way back in for this play on third and goal and he tries to run over a linebacker because he's trying to save his job he saying if he if the kid can do it. I can do it too. I'll show you mile watching this and you want to talk about dangerous. That's that's kind of crazy right. That's guy older and what does that. What are you all. Tell me about jimmy g. He's brittle. Oh he's fragile. He's hurt to offer this. What happens you do things like that. You get the incumbent thinking outside of the thinking that he to do something because he wants to impress any almost had his shoulder separate. Leonard the incumbency on draft night or is it actually came before that they traded this. They traded their whole future to go up to number three to take trae land right. So does jimmy g. not know that his days are number because this wasn't like mack jones falling into bill. Not it wasn't like bill chick to pay any more of capital for okay. So it's not like your whole future is attached jones. Your whole future is attached to trae land so i actually enjoyed watching how it flowed because kyle nothing but respect for you obviously watched him grow up in your locker and father was your head coach mike. Shanahan and kyle is good enough instinctively. He said it was just impulse. He's he said. I'm going on impulse situation right down and distance. If i have a good feeling about this next to replace. I may put in. It's not a trial package. it's not like taste. Em hill goes inner tim. Tebow used to go in as a freshman at florida where it's designed. He's going to go in and run third and short right in a run the read option right. He's just sort of getting. I'll trae habit for a little while. Then let jimmy go back in. And i'll let trae and jimmy g. seemed okay with it after the game. Because he was saying. The raiders were completely on their heels the whole time because they're going to get a whole different. Look right from me then then from troy rise but skip thing the hardest thing about that is about a rhythm quarterbacks desire them they need rhythm and i don't know how will you stay at rhythms scale if every series every other series. Someone's in the ball game standing on the sideline like okay..
"trey lance" Discussed on Speak For Yourself
"Ultimately that is what he would lose. The sounds good and sentimentally speaking. I would agree with you. Should damian lillard stay sentimentally connected to the portland trailblazers. I get that. If that's the question should dame lillard stay loyal to portland damian lillard to stay loyal to dame dame lillard needs to dane dollars check out who commercial stuff out dame dollars cash. What takes you chase in. The bag is what you chastened ring. Jason is a part of it chasing all. Mba is a part of it. Jason hall of fame is a part of it. Dan lillard does not lose. That he leaves portland to say that daimler loses his brilliance in his greatness due to location is to diminish what dame lillard is a cold killer on that would court dame lillard is and when i think about this i think about another guy a few guys. That really came mind that i was like you know what they were loyal to their team. They was loyal to the soil. Stayed there and kept balling. I'm not going nowhere. I'm gonna get my game on. One of my favorite players ever cabinet a lot of ways. Ramaz me like how a dame lillard is loyal tough about his business. Go to work. Kevin garnett everybody was looking at k. G. like get there. Please go somewhere where you can win. Caja wanna do it. He wanted to make it right in minnesota. He wanted to make them boys boys. Just like we're talking about dame lillard for all the k. jeez and ray allen's that decide to leave and go somewhere else for the lebron. James is that lee and chris bosh leave and decide to go somewhere else in the paul. Pierce is that leave and go somewhere else. There are a whole bunch of dudes that stayed and they stayed so long. Karl malone and john stockton and gary payton they stayed soul long trying to win it and being loyal they realize i gotta i gotta go try to win a ring for me. I got i gotta do this for me. Dumb fairs ain't going. The fans will still be there and they will still love daimler. If he comes back and visits home they will still be daimler fans you know what a real fan would say about dame lillard if he went to somewhere else now. The one point that you make is good. Where does he go. I thought the seventy sixers situation could be a good one for daimler. Where does he go. That's a great question. But if he goes and he goes to get a championship. Those fans should be chairing and rooting him on. Because you couldn't put it together. Hey takes them to the to the to the playoffs every year. They go all the time and they lose they lose all the time if he decides before he loses all of that pop in bounce and vigor and his legs and his body if he decides he want to go somewhere else to try to win. There should be no hate. There should be no saying his brand is ruin. there should be saying that his brilliance is gone. It should be damian. Lillard is taking his talents elsewhere in the attempt to try to win somewhere else. I wish i had thought that way. Dang sure took too long for me to come to that conclusion. During the good years of my career back loyalty so overrated in the nba is comical. And i also think it's comical. The rick is like dame needs guarantees. Listen my parents are watching the show right now. They love when. I say this because they would say to me all the time. There's no guarantees in life. Rick death and taxes. That's it that's it. There's no guarantee that danes gonna win a championship when he goes to philly or boston or wherever act but but overall the big butts hard choices easy life. The hard choice for dame lillard is to leave. That's the hard choice to leave. And say i gotta leave and like you said the fans are going to hate him. They're going to go against him. They're going to burn his jersey. We're gonna see that crap on social media. That's hard choice but daimler doesn't want to be here ten years from now sitting on a tv set with us chopping it up man. I wish i had taken that chance and left. I'll never know if. I want to champion. Because we know they're not doing it in portland speaking of loyalty rick. What loyalty to portland. Show when dane said. Let's get it together. What are we doing free agency. They went out and got tony snell. That's it seriously stopped. Tony smell like the guy in milwaukee or whatever we played last year atlanta. I don't even know. It doesn't matter these irrelevant. That's what you got to get the top. This has james harden vibes written all over it remember last year hard and was like shucks man rushes gone coaches going. Gm gone what the hell am i doing here. That will smith me where you're looking around the room and everything's gone like i can see damon the first two weeks being like yo. I don't wanna battle for the play. Get me the hell out of here. Then it gets ugly the smart move the hard move. Rick is to ask out now and just move on is look loyalty. Don't exist in sports especially not the nba c. j. you're forgetting. Is that you. And i have done a show before and we've spoken on the radio. Yeah i believe we've done this show together. Before they were mistaken there was one sought toco and whether he should stay in milwaukee or he should go someplace else and you were of the mind that he needed to go someplace else. It was crazy that he would stay in milwaukee. He's never going to get it done there. It's too it's just can't happen for him. Look what they have. And what they don't have and lo and behold and say. Oh i did it. The hard way made it half way to secure is not too hard seed is the dude from oakland ultimately does it so no and yes. There are no guarantees. But there are well and i disagree with that. There's a guarantee that if he leaves portland that he loses the brand loyalty that the image of him his. Aau team the oakland rebels. They were the lesser aau team in oakland. He could've gone to the oaken soldiers. The big team. The team that lebron plate four and any number of superstar no stayed with the oakland rebels. Weaver state was the first team. I school to come after now. He blew up a senior year and there were other bigger programs. That came after him after that. He said what i'm staying with weaver state stayed there all four years.
"trey lance" Discussed on Speak For Yourself
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"trey lance" Discussed on Niners Nation
"Even the guy who's playing who starting at quarterback knows in the cat behind him. Listen as much style of alex smith. If we're having a beer in it's a it's a come to. Jesus real conversation. And i love alex smith and i and i do and i'm a fan of jimmy stewart. I root for people success. i do. They can't all be successful. If was sitting here right now and you said hey man in truth. When did you know that the dude behind you was better. I'm sure he would say oh about two weeks training honestly now maybe not better at that time but new did the ceiling was not only the ceiling but the floor was higher from homes. And that's another thing steps. We're always looking at up. But what about the floor. I think the floor for jimmy can drop a lot farther than the floor for trae lance meaning. The fall could go did lancet his worst. Maybe is going to be better than jimmy at its worst because he can do things that you mentioned making plays like. If he's having a six for twenty one day that there may be three more plays in the game where he bought time through across the field. That maybe jimmy can't make so. It's not just where they go. But whose floor is closer to the ceiling. And i would say that. That's trae lance and i don't even have a hesitation saying it yet. I'm rooting for jimmy. But the trae lance call to the bullpens gonna probably be sooner than later. You can tell. Kyle sent now. He's trying without saying he's going to do it. I mean i get it. You gotta keep everybody engaged. Jimmy's not dumb. And jimmy knows that this is a year that he wants to win here but also that he's also playing for another team. Those are just stuck cold hard facts and at and it's going to happen and the question is for forty niner fans and for people playing them. How soon are you going to have to face the kid from north dakota state as opposed to jimmy. That's really interesting thing. Because i think that's what a lot of forty niner fans are afraid of. They're afraid of trae. Lances floor being lower than jimmy garoppolo's for floor because they say well. If jimmy stays healthy we got to the super bowl in two thousand nineteen so we know we can win with him. But that's interesting that you say you don't think so you think that lance at his worst is better than jimmy garoppolo at his worst early coming out and stats bigeye training quarterbacks about make me the easy simple play right now if you said who's more equipped to go play an opener of course it's jimmy. Why because mentally. He shouldn't get me beat right. You should be slain. There's times you shouldn't give you beat now physically. They're going to be times trae. Lance early is going to miss a hot read. And you know what he's gonna do. I seen it listen. I've seen it from shawn watson here in houston It seems like five times a game when he's playing For another whole story you'll miss a blitz coming off the edge. And because he's so athletic and i saw it when he was a rookie. You'll step out of it and then go back and watch the film say. Well that was on watson he missed the blitz. he should've thrown hot. And then you say yeah. But if it was the other guy he'd been sacked watching step out of. It still made a play right. Yes of course early on the floor drops farther because well. It's football i knowledge and he's been in the same system of course jimmy's ahead. But here's that that's why when you look at these young guys and you know what i what i like about lance watched wilson. I don't ever feel like those guys that young and it's changed over the years steps if there's any anxiety with them maybe there is but it almost feels like they're just kind of free wheeling. I don't think they know what they don't know at times right. Yeah they come back for year two. They're going to say damn. I had no clue. But i get why forty niner fans are saying jimmy. If they're both play poorly who gives us a better chance to win will decision wise. It should be jimmy. If it's not that you can't even then there is no discussion. You play lapsed tomorrow but yes of course but you got to say okay forty niners super bowl roster and the toughest division around all right. Well let's see how it goes. But if if jimmy starts out and one and two and if you even if you're you're winning but you're not doing the things you wanna do offensively coaches will still make a change if it's now of jimmy's planted approachable. There's no need to make the decision. But you still gotta keep trae lance engaged and not for the feelings but in case something happens with the history of a few injuries with jimmy. So yes early on. They should know hell. If jimmy's not ahead of trae lance been jimmy should. We should even be considered for the job. Of course he is but when all is said and done and it gets down to the brass tacks of all. Who's gonna make more plays for you in big moments is what kyle's got asked. Now we don't know about trae lance. We haven't seen it. But i have a hunch that will watch as something special and that's just it. I personally in the long run. Think the floor for trae lance going to be closer to his feet than it is. Jimmy's but i still think jimmy. It's a good problem house. I just don't see how trae lance considering the things that they can do with him on the edge with with with with bootlegs Just adds an extra dimension but if you run jimmy out there and he's chicken but playing well okay. It's great luxury. But think about jimmy to grab your fam- i'm a fan. If he goes to. Games that rohan. They win but he throws to picks each game. And kyle who you know is out. He wants good decisions and once. What's how can we get to another level. And if jimmy's doing that they will. I'm telling you they're going to consider. Well we're to an old but look at our tuito could trae lance of data to know. I'm rooting for jimmy. I'm i loved the whole forty niner. History i love great competition. Jimmy should thrive on it. And i'll.
"trey lance" Discussed on Niners Nation
"Can we win. Twelve with trae soak. Jimmy may start from the beginning but think about pressure. That's on stats. He's not playing in san francisco. Pass this year right. He's not it doesn't matter what he does. It doesn't matter what he does. they're just increase the value. I hope for jimmy and he started a lot of other places lances just a better a better all around player all comes down for me is can he handle the failures that he'll go through but more importantly can't he make us better regardless and get us through stuff that jimmy may not be able to even though jimmy's more equipped right now football wise because he's been in longer. I don't think it's going to be long. I'll be shocked if we're in october. And he's not playing the forty niners what their roster or floor knowing they very well could be if they start off slow or if it's even play the rookie and let him go out there and get the hell kicked out of middle eastern on the run because he has got more skill set. That's why they drafted him traded up to get him. I agree one thousand percent and for the people that say like all well lance can take over. After a few weeks my question would be. What is he going to get so much better at in those three or four or five weeks that you don't want to start right away. He's not tell you how he's going to get better. I guess i'm all for it. If i was on that team and i was a tight end or defensive and and as much as you may have a affinity like if you know if you're close with jimmy still is players you're gonna you want. The guy gives the best chance to win. Of course has right today. From what i've seen and i pounded the table at times for jimmy last year saying let's give them a little more respect but i do believe there's a ceiling and i'll stand on a table for him but you know what i'll stay on the table and jumped for trae lance. I love his set but he's not learning anything in two weeks or three weeks watching over two years. I'd hope he'd learned but when people say well look at the luxury that aaron rodgers had with far listen. Aaron rodgers was going to be great with or without sitting behind far. Because they're he's got the balls of a daytime burglar. The ball comes out quick weeks. He just it was just a matter of not if but when he got it and far hall of famer not. Everybody has a luxury most the times. Steve young replacing montana or brett farve being replaced by aaron rodgers. You don't get that luxury when we draft those guys move up. They're not. We're not here to say. I'll see in four years. Screw that we're here to play him. So i i'll say it in new england. I'll say it here anywhere if they're even or it's close play the rookie. And you're gonna learn far more with real stuff flying around than you are sitting in a quarterback media room watching the guy play. You just go. that's what i don't get like people always say. Oh patrick mahomes sat behind. Alex smith like do people really think that patrick mahomes was not going to be amazing unless he sat for sixteen games behind alex. Not income on stats. And you know you make such a good point. Remember that season and alex smith you know talk about a guy who deserves by badly unbelievable comeback in the incredible story. Alex smith had a good career. You know you're you've got one hundred quarterback rating get replaced by colin kaepernick. You put up a kind of a pro bowl type year. But you've got the guy who is the greatest player on the planet right now behind you and think about jimmy's going through the same thing about this and trae. Lance was drafted higher than mahomes was. I'm not saying he's better but he was so coming out of school he was held. I mean trey. Lance has been held in high regard. Just like molds wasn't in some cases maybe higher because of the system pat mahomes came from an wondering. If we'll see could he adjusts from texas tech the nfl and obviously. Did you think about that. Alex smith played well that year but there was nothing he could do to keep that job. Jimmy can go out and go to the pro bowl and guess where he's going to be quarterback next year here in san francisco and that's no knock on jimmy. You may be a pro bowl super bowl somewhere else. You're gonna play the guy who gives you the most upside especially if you can grasp mentally and the mahomes thing to listen if homes would've have played in game three of that year his rookie year. Yes what we would realize. Seven games later. How good he was anyway. You would have seen the flashes of said. I'm willing to deal with some of the stress. I gotta go through in order to get the most out of mahomes. It's going to happen. And i think all five of these start first round picks are going to start at some point earlier and sooner than later. I think it's a unique group. I totally agree with you. These guys are gonna play and you kind of touched on it. I mean the the guys see this in practice right. they see. Yeah they see some of the rookie mistakes but they see some of the while throws and plays and they know you look at that throw he had against the chiefs. Jimmy garoppolo is not physically capable of making a throw outside one hash fifty yards down the field way outside the opposite hash. Mark perfectly in stride like the other forty niners. No jimmy cannot make that play and two things about your one go rob. You're you're so right and it's not only just make that play make that play consistently tour it becomes like a twelve yard curl route right. It's all this is just. This is what he does and the other part of that extension of it is getting to the point where you can buy time to make that play if you have to. There's an awareness of some have and lastly yes. I have never been on a field or the players. Didn't know before the coaches okay. Regardless of when the coach makes the decision sometimes.
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"How much time does he get behind. Alex mack and trent williams who hasn't necessarily been practicing with an injury and you know the rest of the guys on that offensive line and not necessarily the second team offensive line which has been getting whipped. I think all practice or throughout training camp and we saw a little bit on saturday of their struggles as well. So i think that's the big thing to watch for this week as they lead into the game on sunday are. We are not out of the woods yet. As far as quarterback tacos the goes on tuesday to forty niners waved. first round. pick legend. Josh rosen the rosen. Coaster has come to an end so for those of you that. Have not seen rosen outside of what. We just saw saturday night. It looks exactly what you saw on saturday night. He just doesn't take care of the man and whether that's fumbling his nap whether that's throwing aaron pass whether that staring down at a vendor enduring right to their chest. That's what rosen did during training camp consistently and that's why not here I've seen some people say that you know they were never going to really hold onto rose in. they're giving him a tryout. That's not true. Because rosen was asked after the game Did just about his lack of reps and he pretty much said well. The reason that he's not performing is because of the lack of reps and we do that. I mean there's just eventually it has to come back to you and there's just no ownership at all in. That's in that case now goes back to his days with arizona. Antioch the focus of josh rosen us about what shannon said because remember a week before he said johnson that rosenthal hot start and then he came back down to earth or just really hasn't been playing. Well here's a road and said quote. I don't really get many reps in practice there. You just have to shore up. Whether the emotional roller coaster went one or two or out of your three throws in live. Ripped lighting. reps aren't good. So you definitely have to mentally work on keeping sort of the head in quote Yeah blaming him. Claiming somebody else for unite reps is a yougov. Everybody immediate no no. Yes so that was on saturday. He didn't last very long after that. I imagine that has more to do. I mean obviously while then giving him a tryout for another team. So with rosen gone and we just talked about southfield shannon said the plan the entire time was to get grows in this first scare him. You'd extent look at him in the next game The sacramento bee's chris peterman said on tuesday that mumble. Monday and tuesday's practice. Neither of rosen or southfield received any team reps during either practice so that is good news for those of us in by us. I mean me wanting the forty niners to only to two bats because they have issues on some very cheap position so off his lined up issue quarterback issue in their entire line is seemingly banged up or they're on ice in they're trying to keep them fresh so in that case. I don't know why you get either one. We'll see you know something's gonna have have to have a really really really strong performance to make the team and it might only be his last shot discounts. sunday against the chargers. Do you think about the whole one. Ours are two to three quarterbacks. I never understood why at least in two thousand nineteen cow shan kept three quarterbacks on the roster understood last year from cova perspective. And you know you. Don't wanna kendall hinton situation but this season when you have trae and jimmy garoppolo you just roll with those two guys. And you know Use that extra roster spot at a position of need like you mentioned ovens of line needs the extra spot. Quarterbacks could use it. The safety position could use it with the injuries. Defensive line seems to have a lot of bodies they could keep an extra guy around to keep that talent in the building and it just makes no sense to give that to nate sub felt worse case scenario you wave side failed. He clears waivers. Sign back to your practice squad you can elevate him on game day But it it makes no sense To keep him Or rosen arose. Gone on the fifty. Three men rosser. Just keep three quarterbacks. I would roll with to use that position somewhere else. Just seems to be the smart thing to do Given where their teams at currently yes think about even the receivers so may keep sixers. Bertha comes down to like if simple webster plays like he did on saturday. He has another big regardless tapping. he's also place. It's going to be tough to keep him roster. If all of a sudden the legend of jalen hurd gets out and plays like equal think he's capable of a. You're not going to release him if he gets healthy. So they're just roster battles all over the place where it's coming down to an extra position player. Who could help on special teams and offense or defense or a quarterback who has probably what a two percent chance at most of getting againing redoing ear. I told somebody on twitter. Somebody needs to show caution. The over since his tenure. How many third string quarterbacks have entered the game. I there's no shot that numbers over five percents of I understand why you'd be conservative in protecting your quarterbacks but if you're down to the third string quarterback odds are you're probably not in a position to win that game yager. I just got us Elsewhere especially with where the teams at you have trae lance back quarterback hopefully turns into the starter and as long as jimmy. Garoppolo stays healthy this. We probably aren't having conversation about nate sud failed. Or josh rosen. The only issue. I think the two hundred fifty thousand dollars guaranteed. If you cut seinfeld you eat that money in becomes dead cap but george thousands of grand scheme of things. Probably a huge deal yet jet january. He's We are gonna take a quick break and when we come back. We're gonna talk about some of the injuries on the forty niners. All right we are back. Let's talk about the star defender. Who has yet to participate in any of the team drills. That is nick. Bosa cow shannon said on saturday. That boso or sorry said this. Monday was going to participate starting team gerald after the joint practices and preseason game. The second preseason game so that means will see bosa on monday and that means he will play in the final preseason game where the starters get a get a half in so in. Maybe there's no guarantee that he would play. If i were shanahan. I would play him just so he gets game. Spe- are just so he gets gained reps..
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"While tip pass was the case during tuesday's practice in somebody said that they just took red worn out of practice after the interception do so they can get things done so a just. That's how good a player he is. But the chargers they haven't seen The forty niners offense for two straight weeks that or going on three straight weeks now and the same for a tray lance up. I think we will if we see growth if we see you know. It started to even out as quarterbacks than maybe we'll see more first team reps for trae lands but he has to be yes by well during his join practices and they in es to play well during the second quarter. Which is what i believe. He'll get on the game son. I think it's gonna go jimmy the first quarter and then it'll go. Try the second quarter anything. Nate sub-field gets the last half. Maybe landscapes another series into third quarter. But that's probably how it's gonna go the bigger thing. I think this week in the game are the joint practices. Because that's when cao shanahan and brandon staley can set up situations for the chargers in the forty niners that you can't necessarily replicate in a game whether that's two minute orion zone certain things or you know because they control the practice environment so you could put your players in whatever situation you want. I think the big thing to watch for this week is how much time does trae lance get with the first team offense and we know that the skilled players rotate but the big thing is the offensive line..
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"Kyle shanahan did not have a press conference on sunday but he did have a conference call and as you might imagine everybody wanted to know what kyle thought of trae lands performance. I wish i could have left him out there longer. No enjoys playing. He's only been able to play one game and Over a year. But i think it was good for him to get out. I think he started out. Good got a little excited. Sometimes but she does and you get a little excited your technique and stuff you lose on which will be fun to watch with them and raise a guy who's tough on himself and loves the correct things and since we've had him he's been very good at correct mistakes. That's a pretty positive assessment. Kyle considering that trae kinda did struggle. After that eighty yard touchdown pass. Why do you sound so excited about that. Though we all know trae has the ability to play well and do some special things. But that's not playing quarterback in the nfl. You gotta have the ability to get into the club but it's how you respond to adversity how you can play over the course of a game when you do make a mistake. Can you come back and make another big play. I'm not just about going out there. And keeping both teams in the game. You gotta go out there and find a way to win it for one team. And i think trays we try to put them in situations where he's building out and trying to get ready for games but nothing's more like that than actually playing the game firm to get his first nfl game. I thought it was huge for them. And i know there's a lot of things that he's going to already know without seeing us that he's gonna be hard on himself for and that he can get better and That's why i'm just excited to get a going away from the plant next to it is going to be a fun week for the forty niners if you don't know they're going to have joint practices with the chargers this week before playing ally in what is now because there's only three preseason games the dress rehearsal which is sunday against the chargers. And by the way did you catch that little thing at the end there. He said he's excited to see trae. Play the next two games. So that means he's going to play in week. Three of the preseason against the raiders. As well kyle also offered his opinion on some of the other rookies besides quarterback and he wasn't so pleased with running back. Trae sermon i to see a little bit more from them. I mean putting the ball on the ground. You got a lot of confidence and trey And i think he watches the game tape. You'll see that you can do a little bit more. I don't know if he's gotta clean. It looks as everyone else but putting up all on the ground in that situation can happen. And i expect him to do a little bit. Better get going forward simply put kyle. Shanahan hates turnovers. He hates it no matter what you do. If you don't take care of the ball kyle is not going to keep you around since he took over. The forty niners are minus thirty five in turnover ratio. That is dead last in the nfl. If you don't know what that means that means the forty niners have turned the ball over thirty five more times than they've taken it away from the other team. It is no wonder they have had losing seasons in three of kyle shanahan's for years trays sermon is going to have as big a role as i think he can have and a lot of people think he can have he has got to nip the fumbling in the but finally some injury updates for you rookie offensive lineman. Aaron banks is going to miss at least two to three weeks with a shoulder. Injury and undrafted free agent wide receiver austin. Watkins unfortunately played through a broken foot. He's going to miss the next six to eight weeks. In terms of good news the following players will return to practice today linebacker. Aziz i'll share dimitrios flanagan foles samson. Ebba cam michael pruitt and k. One williams all. We'll be back yay..
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"You know like if you if you can't win vic fangio sooner or later is going to be fired. But i think he's a good coach so they i can't imagine would you as a forty niners fan. Like what do you want for compensation for jimmy garoppolo. Obviously you want. I you want whatever the most you can get but would you be happy with getting back. A second rounder for him. I'd be thrilled. Look the forty niners have no first round pick in the next two years so if they can get a pick as high as two jimmy garoppolo. I would absolutely do it for sure i. I don't know if they'll get that it'll be interesting. I think the only way they get that is if they pay some of his salary because don't forget he's making twenty four million dollars and that's teams are going to say. Look we're gonna. We're what we're giving you as we're taking this salary off your book. So that's why we're not gonna give you a high draft pick so even if the forty niners said look. We'll pay half. I'd be fine with that. They've got the cap space. They've got the space to fit in his entire salary. So even if you pay half you're still saving you know about twelve million dollars sam. Bradford sam bradford in preseason was traded to the vikings in the vikings give up a first round pick and a third round pick for. Sam bradford who. I'm sorry jimmy. Garoppolo is shown a lot more in his career than sam bradford ever did. And they did so They pay half of his salary. So the vikings didn't have to come up with his whole salary. So that could be the same type of situation. But i feel like if team can get a first and a third for sam bradford like. Maybe we're selling jimmy garoppolo here short for a second and also like think muhammed sohn new got traded for a second just two years ago troops are willing to give away these pigs in the preseason when they start to like freak out that oh goodness like we have this great roster but we're missing a piece so you know and we. We could still have some injuries here. You might be able to get a first of them. Member who got hurt. Open the door for that. Sam bradford trade teddy bridgewater. That is it. Knee had dislocated and people were thrown up on the field when they saw it Look please if they can get a. I i would run to the league office to make that trade official because that would just be incredible But i do think there's a part of kyle shanahan that feels warm and fuzzy about having to good quarterback on his roster like he so worried about injuries like that. If one of them goes down he leaves feels like he has the other. So we'll say there's there's a lot to be decided. I think the the forty niners world will be a lot different one way or the other they play the chiefs because if lance lights it up that the pressure to play him and you know the possibility of moving jimmy opens up if lance struggles on the field. Then all the hype for him probably dies down and jimmy can secure that spot so like things are going to be a lot different on august fifteenth. once that game gets played. it's crazy. We'll have another episode before they even play. Why so far away. I don't know. I hate like just being like well fast. Forward my life but like kind of want it. It's a weird weird situation that's going to do it for this edition of stats and mags. If you like what you hear please. Subscribe to the niners nation podcast network. Oh before we go. Congratulations michelle wedding anniversary. Was this week three years. That is outstanding. Did you do anything special. I thank you and so we did. We got a tattoo with Together the same on. It's kinda corny so don't make fun of but we got purpose. We wrote purpose for each other. So i have like. She has my handwriting on her ankle. And then i have her handwriting a mind but so kind of a corny little thing but then we did also just go and watch the hall of fame game last night at a restaurant so we were degenerates. You know we. We'll watch football no matter what. That's a lot of pressure when you're writing that out because you know like did you go through more than one draft or did you just take a piece of paper write the word purpose and say that's it now. He wrote at a time and then we had the other person. Just pick their favorite one from Okay that makes sense all right well. Congratulations three years. Did you do the are. You didn't do the traditional. i think. Leather is the traditional year. Three wedding gift yeah. No we didn't do that. Kate was like we'll skin. Technically leather. what are you talking about. You like really stretched out. She's the one that wanted the tattoo. You really bad She she really tries to stretch out. I didn't. I don't care about those type of things. Well congrats to you. That is awesome. I'm going on year. This'll be years thirteen for main september next month. Oh my god getting old anyway. Enjoy your week. Everybody forgetting closer to the season. Stick with niners nation. By the way. If you want to know everything that's going on in practice kyle. Posey did a training camp report.
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"But with iced coffee. I do normally put some creamer in it. Why do you why the difference you know my first job. I hated so much it was. I was selling marketing materials. I was absolutely terrible at it. I got fired. I was bored. I probably should have been working harder. That i acted like i was on fear factor and i never drink coffee at the time but i was like. I'm going to start drinking coffee. Because i'm so bored in this. It's so disgusting. So i was acting like. I was on fear factor and that was giving me entertain and then i ended up loving it. You know i. It took me a month with them. My body got used to it. And i was like ooh. I need this now in my life. It is amazing that you got fired from that job. I did not sell a single thing. They got me around for like nine months. I'm so bad. One of the worst jobs i ever had was in college. I went to quinnipiac university. Have you ever heard of the quinnipiac. Poll sometimes they talk about it and like news broadcasts. You're shaking your head. No yeah i don't blame. But that was like one of the highest paying jobs. You could have on. Campus was working at this poll but it was horrible because you just had to literally cold call people and there was a whole script. You had to read and ask them if they want to like. Answer your questions. I got more people telling me to go die in that job than i can ever remember but i would get so bored because ninety nine percent of the time they either hang up or they just say no and so. You're really bored. It's the same script over and over again so used to just decide to read the script in accents and just to do like different voices. Except i can't do any accents was just me being horrible at accents and the people that were sitting on either side of a would just turn and look like who is this person that is now randomly trying to use an australian accent on the phone and they would just stare at me. I would strobe board. I didn't know what else to do. I do not miss those jobs. I do not missiles autumn jackson very happy. Now that i'm working in the football world. It's much better now. That was like right out of school. That was rough. They also let me work from home. Sometimes they that was they. Are they still in business. I don't know. I was working with all six year. Old men who've been doing it forever so i don't know why they hired me to begin with. I don't really know where to go from there. So i'm gonna bring it back to football. Trent williams was on mbr and was talking about the team and he talked about the quarterback but more interesting thing. I thought he said was. I've been playing this game for a long time. I've been in many many locker rooms. You know what a good team looks like. He said i feel like we've got one of the best defense in the league. You follow it up with one of the best offenses in the league on the best ron games. One of the best tight ends you name it every position. There's literally no weaknesses now. Obviously that's great that he feels that way. I don't know that. I like him publicly. Throwing it out there. Michelle especially when this team is coming off yet. Another double digit law season. Yeah and he left out pretty prime Issue there with the secondary like there. There are some holes on the team. And now i actually think this is one of the better officers in the nfl. He's telling allies there is telling lies. Were saying like they have no holes. And they're going to be you know they they have great players everywhere segment of the lead. There are some sketching along the roster that you're going to have to come together and make sure you know the the front seven make up for the secondary there are definitely ways to overcome it. But it's not going to be dislike an easy ride this year i will say. Let's get on the field right. Because i already brought up practice. It feels like everything's running smoothly. Go there on the field and it's like oh my goodness what happened to you. Guys last night the steelers were getting killed by garrett gilbert like it was like the defense going to stop anything the starters were not playing and then the the offense looked terrible. Dwayne haskins was getting glowing reviews in training kansas. He's changed into a different man. And i love how he came out and it was like. I love the two minute drill. Like i shine in that area. He had three minutes before halftime Yesterday's house let's see what happens. He was terrible. Terrible terrible the whole game. So it's like let's get you into a game situation you can have all the glowing reviews and practices. you want. I need to see it happen on a field against a different team. That's not yours. The your secondary is so thin that you're signing b w web training camp because you literally need another person like i. I don't know that. I would say that. No weakness then. You're right about that. Every team has holds. Every team has weaknesses. Like that's just part of the nfl in a salary cap league. But i agree. I cannot wait until that game. I we have to wait like a whole other week. I'm dying. I'm scratching off hours waiting for them to get on the field against the chiefs. Because honestly i feel like if lance goes out there and lights it up like he's winning the job he's gonna win the job. I want to see all this stuff like you said. It's a test right. All the puff pieces that come out and training camp. Let's see what's real and what's not and Every team does that trend. Taylor got the puff piece for years with the forty niners. Like you said dwayne haskins getting it with the steelers. I would like to see your boy. Allies more out there. Let's see if he's as good as you have been propping up but that is the test it's it's so funny right like we count down the days training camp like please just get me to training camp and then as soon as training camp starts where like oh my god please get me the pre season and then as soon as preseason start just giving to the season. It's never good enough until we get there and we really don't know anything until we get into the real you know sick of it and the season i will say what we should pay be paying attention to so much is the drew lock. Teddy bridgewater competition because right now the kind of both suck and neither one can win the job but not in a good way. It's not like they're both doing so good and you don't know who's going to win. It's like they keep having like a decent product in the bad pack these lon sometimes you throw in some good plays by. Neither one can get ahead. And i think it's because neither one are very good. And the broncos have a really really good roster all around like they have a winning rosser definitely playoff roster besides the quarterback position. Keep an eye on them because they might get forty niners. Yeah let's figure out the straight for jimmy garoppolo like this just in teddy bridgewater and drew lock are not very good. We all knew this. These teams sometimes go with these players like unless their plan was like. Hey we really thought we were getting aaron rodgers. then i don't blame them but like how you going. If you're a broncos fan going into the season with drew lock and teddy bridgewater like really and trust me. I can talk. Because i'm a forty niners fan. And we went into a season with j t o'sullivan starting quarterback. So i know of what. I speak But you pointed out like if you can't succeed in denver as a quarterback they have great weapons on offense in denver and you can't light it up with them like you got real problems and they're just going to waste a whole year with those young playmakers with a good defense and then they might get their coach fired..
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"What is going on what's going on. Kp a little jealous. You've got boots on the ground at forty niners training camp. You've got all the intel inside information. Got all the scoops and so we're excited to talk through all that stuff. Today's episode it's fun. I'm not gonna lie man. It's it's locked so watching. Football watching the football at the nfl level is a hauler thing and just seeing different perspectives. I actually appreciate that. You know we can see and that's the beauty of football. You know i can watch something you can watch something. Rabkin watt shopping. And we can all come away with different takeaways. And i don't think there's anything wrong with that and some of our stats may be off but It's it's entertaining and got a few more days to go so looking forward to it. Speaking of he suffered a pretty scarier. What seemed to be pretty significant injury on monday. Ran into quick. Rundown of the forty-ninth injuries. So it's it hasn't been a week yet. Knock on wood. There have not been any significant injuries. And hopefully it stays that way so a made it out of practice with pads on after one day but as these are shy went down with what looked to be like a season ending injury. Like look bad bad but the team got a diagnosis on tuesday. And he's now only going to miss a few weeks maybe two maybe three weeks with a knee sprain so shannon said there's not going to be any long term damage of team fears are there. They're not he's not gonna suffer from any long term damage so that's good because shire has looked good. He has looked a lot more comfortable. He's look more athletic. Deebo samuel did not practice on tuesday either and that was the first time he has. It wasn't a a maintenance day. Because some of the guys like nick bosa. George kettle have received those but deebo samuel has some groin. Soreness and shanahan's playing down like teams just being precautionary. So there's nothing to worry about. A dixie samuel joking with fred warner after practice. He didn't have any sort of limp in his gate. So that might matter but you know. He has suffered from these little injuries. So i don't know man. It's a on on the one hand i want to say it's not a big deal but you just never know with these guys. So hopefully he's back out there tomorrow looking as fast as he has been because he is a very good player and he makes this team just more dangerous in general A few other injuries dante johnson. Tim harris emmanuel moseley. All are out for different reasons. Mos on the reserve codeless jalen hurd. Who did not practice on. Friday did not practice on saturday and once that happened eyebrows. Raised people thought. Maybe the jalen her hype train was over before it started for the third year in a row. That was not the case so luckily heard was not only out there in individual during tuesday he actually snuck into team drills so that was cool to see him just in contact. He didn't receive any targets or anything but just to see him. Run routes you know. Have physical contact and respond. Well was get to see so. Hopefully he's working more and more with the ones in the twos as practice keeps going Speaking of injuries d ford. He has looked really really really good. He looks fresh. She looks like a player that the forty niners can count on and we talked about won't even play like will the team get anything out of him this season now. It looks like he's not only gonna play. He's going to contribute a lot. So that's really good. News for the forty niners niklas as yet to step onto the phil during team drills. He's off running. He's on the sideline running when the team does go to team drills looks good looks fast. Looks like an action figure so nothing really to worry about their. I think they're just going to be cautious with him and joined jennings is supposed to come back sooner than later to buy so that the injury list is short. And that's good. Hopefully it's like that you do not care about that. You guys want to hear about the quarterback so we are gonna talk about trae lance verse. Jimmy garoppolo As of so from wednesday through tuesday trae lance has received the one rep with the first team. Naturally everybody exploded in lost their minds after that. One rep so. This was just the way when people see this. they think. Oh he's throwing to george carlin brand-new and to just to clarify the wide receivers in just a skill guys in general. They're working with every quarterback so ice catching passes from nate suffield. He's catching passes from jimmy g. He's all over the place so don't judge. Judging by who. The offensive line is trey lance today. Snap from alex mack. Bat is what matters far more than whoever he's throwing a pass to so that was just a design. Run that the caution and said he wanted to see lance and how it looked with the stars because that's probably what he's going to do but let's just start there and leave it there because he's gone out of his way so far early on in training camp to tell the public. I'm going to run the ball with trae lands. He's all but said that. And that's essentially the only time we really hyped. Him up is when he's talking about on the ground and it feels like he just wants to lions eagles in every other team in the nfl to know you're gonna have to spend time preparing for my running package with trae lance. That's a good point and just back to what cow shanahan has kinda said about trae lance It feels very muted He's been that way with rookies and the younger players on this team in the past. Whether it's been dante pettis or brandon. I u Or akilah witherspoon. He's typically gone out of his way when he's had you know media sessions at press conferences to be more critical of these players and not as complementary. And it's kind of in the same way with trae lance. He's tried really hard despite the questions that he's constantly peppered with two not anoint him as anything or to not publicly credit him what he's done during training camp and you've seen iran you thought. Today was his most impressive outing yet. Even after today's Spectacular throw or whatever cash will still kind of hesitant to throw that preys on him and he's kinda slow playing the whole thing and yeah like you mentioned. I think the running package or the running element is what shanahan has most talked about. And i think it's what most of us anticipate Trae lance be used as at least early in the season until if and when he becomes starting quarterback for this team to be used as a short down or a third down red zone. Kind of runner. We anticipate there to be like a tray. Lance package in the offense and you know jimmy garoppolo to step off the field on certain a plays or certain snaps and trae lands to get those reps. And i think that'll only integrate him into the offense more. It'll get more comfortable with you. Know takings nassar mocks mac or just playing in different situations. And that's how the integrate him early on and the other thing is if you're a defensive coordinator that's playing against the forty niners offense now. Not only do you have to prepare for the jimmy. Garoppolo short game aerial passing attack. You're gonna also have to prepare for trae. Lances running rushing attack and the more things that defensive coordinators have to worry about that more more the advanced to cal shanahan mike mcdaniel and his offense staff right. They've got more things to throw out a posing defense and that's just going to cause more headaches so i think that's where we're going to see early on. I think a lot of the plays so far during campfire. You know. I'm not there but just from reading between the lines. It sounds like a lot more running plays for trae lance than passing places that correct. Yes so the first time he comes in the game. It's a run and the first few days of just like a simple zone read and i say simple like he's not gaining yards because he's just faster than the people that are trying to tackle him but Today it kind of evolves as a play called bash where you just think of inside zone where the quarterback hands off in this in bash. The running back is running. Parallel to the line of scrimmage like he's running a sweep and he's running away from the sorry. I should say in the opposite direction of pulling guard and lance is now running inside zone. So he's their essentially they're switching Lobbing roles right yep and that's pretty interesting because obviously you see running back the lateral the linebackers go that direction too and it led to endure..
"trey lance" Discussed on The Adam Schefter Podcast
"Hard towards that. John really appreciate you. Thanks very much. Congratulations again enjoy ken. And try to forget the gm job for a few days. Thanks a lot adam. I appreciate it and so there is the great. John lynch who. I once work with an nfl network when he was launching his broadcasting career before he became port of fox broadcast team a great analyst before he decided to become the general manager of the forty niners and it's very interesting. We're looking to broadcasting world sometimes the connections and ties that exist that some people know and some people don't and an example that this past weekend migrate friend. my colleague. Marcus spears was watching. The olympic swimming competition very exciting and he noticed the great work of nbc's play by play man. Dan hicks and the color commentator rowdy gaines and marcus commented on on twitter and social. Who's this great swimming outsor- to which had a storm another colleague of mine and espn said my husband. Marcus spears had no idea that. Dan hicks the great voice of nbc sports swimming olympics golf. All sorts of events is married to the great. Hannah storm both had legendary distinguished broadcasting careers. They worked together for ten years at cnn. I believe it was or maybe nbc. But ten years together working together. Mary together even lower than that. Marcus spears has just learn this little factoid. So i'm glad that my friend now is in the know on the romantic relationships that exist within the broadcasting industry. Also wanna get looking ahead this week to my golf pool. it's back. After a week of the olympics we are back and we are ready to make another big for those who are paying attention. Four weeks left in the golf pool. We've got four tournaments coming up. We've got memphis. We've got greensboro. North carolina the northern trust jersey city and the bmw championship valley maryland. Four weeks to capitalize on. What has been a almost yearlong obsession with the scalpel to try to bring this home amateur but he cares but i care tremendous amount because it has overtaken my life and consumer weekends and i've watched almost every shot that everyone of the golfers that i picked up my weekly will has hit each week and i will be pulling from golfer this week right before we sign off on.
"trey lance" Discussed on The Adam Schefter Podcast
"Mine pro bowls of defensive rookie of the year defensive player of the year in two thousand nine q imagine how history would have been different. If the tuck rule play when he sacked on brady stood as many people thought it should have. It would have delayed the start of the patriots dynastic. Run and it would've helped the raiders. Perhaps go on to a super bowl charles. Woodson was believable. Tom floors to coach the raiders and seahawks man who has four super bowl rings. Incredible to think about that. He and mike ditka are the only people in nfl history who have been super bowl winners as players. Assistant coaches and head coaches. Dick is now tom. Flores will go in and bill nunn a name that might not be familiar to many people but he started his career with the steelers. As a part time scout he became the first evaluator league. History to show an nfl franchise. The long term value of scouting players at black colleges and universities. Guy was incredible ahead of his time. Just a tremendous. Nfl contributor and now bill nunn goes into the pro football team but of course john lynch demand we mentioned the man who is the guest on the podcast. This week played in tampa from nineteen ninety three to two thousand three played in denver from two thousand four to two thousand seven. He was a nine time. Pro bowl player. A two-time first team all pro selection a super bowl winner a former great baseball prospect and people will talk about that today. John lynch will look back on what could have been a tremendous baseball career as well as looking ahead to the season ahead without further. Ado my friend. my colleague. the great john lynch. We'll get back to the podcast and just a moment but first commercial support for this. Podcast is provided by better help online therapy as we begin to see the light at the end of the covert tunnel a lot of people are still.
San Francisco 49ers' QB Trey Lance Signs Rookie Deal
"Trey lance in the forty niners have finalized his rookie deal. He signed a four year. Thirty four million dollar contract. That is fully guaranteed. They got the deal done just in time for camps open day. Kyle shanahan said yesterday. There's no open quarterback competition right now. Jimmy garoppolo is the starter and sri lance is his backup. Zach wilson is now the only unsigned first round pick.
"trey lance" Discussed on Niners Nation
"You know but to me with garoppolo and where you know. I got him at the twenty first ranked quarterback in the nfl. And i know you probably wanna yell at me and do all those things too. But garoppolo's biggest issue is more of like it's his feet as well but in a different way his he. He needs to have more populous. Be get his feet underneath the more. There's so many times where he's drawing the football and he doesn't hitch right quarterback to take a step drop they take that hitch step up in the pocket and they throw it that allows you to capitalize on all your power and when done right. It's going to help you with your accuracy to have you've got. i challenge. people go back and watch. He throws almost every throw without a hitch step or his speed being black nor his back leg which is his right leg outside the framework of his body and you can create power that way. That's one of the reasons. Aaron rodgers hitch steps into those types of throws that we were just talking about in mahomes so they can get that back leg underneath their back shoulder and now have real power to use their arms and their legs at the same time throw rifles. And that's jimmy g. issue for sure twice. Bad deep balls to stats. Well let's go through kind of a tale of the tape then on these two guys. Yeah accuracy who you give the advantage to lance or garoppolo garoppolo for sure right now. Yes okay. Deep ball i assume trae lance well it or are not great either. They're not ever be one of the things that i didn't like about the draft process. Either he's got a really strong arm. It's nothing about that. He is a little bit. What i would call a one club thrower right. Every throw is kind of the same. Kenneth throws is deep balls hard is out routes hard to slant route hard all of that. He doesn't have a pitching wedge or nine iron and some of those the throw though so if he can learn how to do it a little bit. Better throw the ball higher in the air things like that. He has the potential to be the better down. the field thrower garoppolo lacks that real power. That way so yeah. I go i'm gonna go with trae lance just a little bit there. It's not great. Like i said but i think jimmy's is really one of the lesser at all football when he talked about throws like three and forty yards down the field. So you just mentioned the arm. Strength with lance. And i feel like. That's one of the exciting things that i'm looking forward to. When you start. Which by the way should be right away. I want to see the difference in the passing offense with lance with some of the out. Routes some of the sideline comebacks. Because they're not running that stuff with jimmy like you've talked about a million times you load up the middle of the field. Because that's the only place jimmy for throws it. Yes you're exactly right and trae lance and his you know it we correct these sayings and starts to be the player and he could be. He certainly gonna put more pressure on the defense. And i think what you're talking about. You know to basically sum that up is when he's at quarterback he has a greater chance of making the the defense defend the whole field. Yes and that's probably where i think. The beauty is a shanahan. Wow i can trip people with trae lance runs line. Normal running games aweso. Oh yes safeties. Come down here in the box. Come on stop. The run moster sturt stopped. Trae less zoom seventy yard bomb over the top you know. Oh i'm rolling out who forty yard laser on the run to deebo samuel crossing the field. There's no doubt that he can open up the field for a lot of different things and really in my heart hearts. I think that's why shanahan draft because one you know. I think he liked the schematics advantage. You'll get from the run game two. He hasn't credible high end. And i think three shanahan's is good office. Coordinator is there in football. I think he's finally realize that. Like man. I gotta have more than maybe the matt ryan jimmy garoppolo's of the world times for breathing me with this great office to win games. Go back still to that. Forty niners at forty niners bills game this past season where some of the quotes added the forty niners locker. Room the coaches. They just jumped out to me. And that's where i also feel like shanahan was like man. I gotta get me one of these guys. We play perp defense. And josh allen still stored points of threw the ball over the field on us like we weren't playing good defense and i think that was a big moment for shanahan at least a with the light bulb. Go off a little bit. One hundred percent jimmy. Garoppolo cannot make a play outside of the structure of the offense at all. And you could. Nick mullins and neither could cj beth. It was amazing to me that their whole quarterback room could not do that. That's why i wanna see lance in there right away. Chris what is the point of acquiring this guy. If you're not going to throw him in there you don't learn how to drive a car by watching somebody else do it. You learn by greed in the wheel and yeah sometimes you ding one of your side mirrors a little bit. That happens but let's go. What are we waiting for right. Well listen. I don't think you're crazy. Let alone he's already done it with. Rg three of that. Forty nine or team was not a sound with. I mean that redskins team washington football team. Sorry they were that team then. So i hope i'm not wrong by that. But this forty nine or teams more talented. The offense is more talented than that football team. I think i still think there's a chance for that to happen. Trae lance continues to grow. Do some of the things we talked about mentally and then translating on the fields physically doing those things and to your point to listen. This is one of the other things that i think was tough about the trae lance evaluation..
NFL Draft: No Suspense as 3 QBs Dominate Early Picks
"As expected the Jaguars to Clemson quarterback Trevor Lawrence with the first overall pick Lawrence won a national championship as a freshman it was a Heisman Trophy runner up his junior year last season before entering the draft quarterbacks also were taken with the next two picks B. Y. U.'s sacked Wilson went second to the jets and North Dakota state's Trey lance headed to the forty Niners at number three the falcons used a fourth choice deland Florida tight end Kyle Pitts and LSU wideout jamarr chase when fifth to the bangles I'm Dave Ferrie
Voice of the Bison Jeff Culhane Speaks Highly of Trey Lance
"Hank, who is the voice of the Bison, North Dakota State Web trade, played Is with us and glad to have him. Jeff. Thanks for coming on. How are you? Hey, Mark, I'm great. Appreciate you guys reaching out and it's a pleasure of Sakia really appreciate being on the show. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we're excited to have you. I think you know the average football fan. Is maybe still just starting the process of getting to know Trey, Lance and 40 Niner fans. You know if it don't Jeff, it's only been 45 days a year since they've realized Oh, wait a minute. We're in this Derby, so so tell everybody about Trey Lance. Well, I'll tell you what. Trey Lance is one of the more impressive young men that I've had a chance to cover and get to know and be around. It comes from a great family. In fact it father Carlton spent a short period of time I believe in training camp with the San Francisco 40 Niners after his college career was over at Southwest Minnesota State and Marshall, Minnesota. So there's a little bit of A brief connect there even though Carlton did not spend a ton of time in the organization. But Trey, you know the conversation about training. Lance is going to come back to his Experience that's going to come back to playing at the FCS level Mark, but I think what what stands out to me is one He checks all the boxes physically, and I've had the The opportunity to be around college football programs like the Brassica in West Virginia and cover power five in the Big 12 in the Big 10 and as he seen a C C And Trey. Lance has all the physical tools you need to succeed in the National Football League. But more importantly, mark He's a great young man. He's
San Francisco 49ers, Miami Dolphins and Philadelphia Eagles Make NFL Draft Trades
"Not in season. But March has been mad for the league, especially this week here, Schefty with what all went down. What happened here is that the 40 Niners have been trying to move up in the draft into the top five, frankly, for the last few weeks now, and they were able to cold together a deal with the Miami Dolphins at the same time that the Dolphins were going together a separate deal. With the Philadelphia Eagles that enabled the 40 Niners toe move up the third overall position to take a quarterback. And that means in all probability that we're gonna have quarterbacks go with the first three picks in this draft. We would think Trevor Laurence goes one Zack Wilson to and then the 40. Niners would have their choice. Assuming they stand three for the third quarterback in this draft. I would not dismiss Mack Jones in that conversation. Like Trey, Lance. They like Justin Fields. They're going to continue to do more and more work here in the weeks leading up to the draft, but they wanted to get into this slot now. So that they could have their choice at three. Knowing that they would get one of these quarterbacks a lot of people then wonder what happens to Jimmy Garoppolo. Sure, they're gonna be trading him right? Not so fast, because they believe that this is a Super Bowl caliber roster, and they're not ready to hand that roster toe a young rookie quarterback who's unproven just yet. So in their minds today, Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be a quarterback and opening day, and that's not a leverage play. That's not them trying to bait another team into giving up more compensation for Jimmy Garoppolo. Their true honest plan today is to have Jimmy Garoppolo as the starting quarterback. Have the first round draft pick that they take a quarterback learn for a year and then eventually it will be his job in San Francisco going forward. We have
Who is QB2 in 2021 NFL Draft?
"It would have been fully justified and with that we welcome you back as always live from the seaport district appear seventeen brought to you by chase. I green this get up and we have a huge our coming your wine. It starts with this. It's a quarterback sneak mc shays make board is in and wait till you see the first four picks. He's with us live to break down off the top. Then wait a minute. What did russell say. Is he talking about getting sri. Didn't from seattle the wild ride in. Nfl history continues. And then we'll tell you how the shawn watson saga plays out and what it will mean for every team in the nfl. All that and more as we get out with you when this hour which starts right now with todd mcshay post super bowl mock draft. It's available right now on espn plus all it. It's fascinating a number one. That's no big surprise. He's got trevor lawrence going number one to urban meyer and the jaguars. But here's where it gets interesting. He also has quarterbacks going to three and four at two he has the jets taking. Byu's zack wilson who has been rising up. Everybody's draft what he has been be talk of the nfl draft process so far at three overall. He's projecting trade the panthers moving up from eight to take north dakota state's train lance to be their quarterback of the future which leaves ohio states justin field sitting there. Four and mcshea has the falcons taking him fields the second highest total qbr in college football season and then jones sliding down a little bit later to make five quarterbacks in the first round in there he is the man with the mic board. It is mcshea and it's awesome. Let's start with this todd. We all understand. Trevor lawrence going number one. Nothing even to discuss. How firmly planted in. Your mind is zack. Wilson right now as the number two quarterback in this draft. I think very firmly. The first thing i do when the season is over and a govan studied the top quarterbacks. Because i know that's what we're going to talk about for the majority of this process leading up to the draft and after lawrence. There's a little bit of a gap and then at zack wilson. And then there's a gap between gods trey lance from north dakota state and justin feels from ohio state. So i think he is clearly the number two quarterback in this class. The question becomes greenie. Is that the jets taking two or the jets gonna move out and allow a team like a carolina to that number two spot to take him. And that all depends on the domino's in terms of the veteran quarterbacks right now where does shawn watson wind up carson wentz. We know is going to get moved to chicago indianapolis. I think joe douglas. The general manager is kind of waiting. And seeing some of these other quarterbacks go and he's fielding phone calls he's not aggressively making calls but fielding calls to see maybe if they can move sam darnold and if they do exactly since the pick for the jets at number two and if not as i said i think the jets will move outta to and wilson will still wind up being that number number two overall pick in this class. I grew the. I've been saying for a while. I agree with you completely. He'll be number two. The question is who winds up making the peck. Then the other part of this is. I'm old enough to remember a time when we wondered if justin fields might supplant trevor lawrence as the number one draft now all of a sudden these the fourth quarterback off the board. How did that happen. You go back. And study games against indiana northwestern. And then the college football playoff national championship game against alabama. He completed around fifty two percent of throws with five interceptions. Those games in my opinion. You look at it physically. He's big. he's sturdy strong who mobile. He's got a big arm all the traits that you look for. But he likes to see his receivers. Come open and get stuck on that. I read very frequently. So you compare him with trae. Lance and i have identical grades on the to train. Lance didn't play the level of competition. Didn't play as many games as is justin fields but i think he processes the game a little quicker in terms of going from his first into a second and third and seeing the entire field. So it won't surprise me if it feels is third quarterback off the board. But i think they're kind of bunched together in that third tier of quarterbacks behind lawrence wilson and then the other two and then i want to ask you about the guy that you currently have fifth because i'm a regular listener of the first draft podcast and so i'm listening the other day to you and field. Yates and mel kiper talking about what was going on at the senior bowl and everyone is raving about matt jones. Your buddy mel had max jones moving this thing and i believe he has him sort of. I believe he hasn't projected higher than you have in projected. What do you see for mack. Jones as this process goes on the fifth quarterback in the first round. Well i think what's going to happen. He's matt jones is going to benefit from the fact that these four quarterbacks are gonna come off the board quickly and it's probably going to be cut because of trades moving up. I have matt jones going number twelve overall right now in a i had chicago moving up to twelve in san francisco. Moving back to twenty we have to see where carson wentz go. It does go to
North Dakota State holds off James Madison for 8th FCS title in 9 years
"North Dakota state with its eight FCS championship in nine years the bison just defeated James Madison twenty eight twenty they win their third straight NC double a title at this point lets the cigarettes your freshman Trey lance by the way was the championship games most outstanding player thirty carries a hundred and sixty six yards including a forty four yard touchdown scramble to open the fourth quarter so they get yet another win as North Dakota state continues