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Good Morning Niner Empire 11/14/2020

Niner Faithful Radio

03:18 min | 6 months ago

Good Morning Niner Empire 11/14/2020

"This is jamie fernando for radios. Good morning manner empire. Let me tell you about our sponsor graphics munger. they're keeping your business going extinct. Turn your idea into reality with their graphic design team the your source for custom logo designs apparel decals and more. Don't want any longer and coke graphics munger at three six zero four six zero eight five to six oregon facebook freedom graphics munger also if you mentioned ninety five radio. Ten percent discount thanks. Let's get back to the show. Good morning men are empire. My name is jimmy. Today's november fourteenth. Two thousand and twenty. Let's get into some forty nine news. Here's a final entry. Update for the forty niners before they face the saints on sunday from kyle injuries for the week Or the report Tim coleman will be out river. Craft will be questionable flanagan fouls out. Deebo samuel out. Trent taylor questionable and K one is out uh kendrick bourne has been taken off to covid nineteen lists in should be able to play. Sunday was the okay with kendrick. Bourne is is he ready to play in this game. Yeah kindred born was back in the building today Got him in the meetings. You gotta get out there for walk through type. Practice also call talks about sherman day on his health. I kyle. how did how did sherm luck and in practice this week and is are you a ruling him out as well for sunday yes he did a good job. I was able to practice all three days on scout team. He is right if we had to do it. We could push it but want to be the smartest thing. So we're going to take them into the spy. Weakened feel good about going versa ramps and finally called about the team on the road as you guys have played pretty well on the road. this season. obviously weird circumstances so when you go to like new orleans today. You're going to be in that hotel for almost forty eight hours right outside of maybe a walk through. What is it like just to try to get the guys kind of get back into game mode and this is a road trip I mean i love it because it's a lot of time to catch up on sleep in if you're not sleeping there's not anything else to do so you sit there and prepare for the game so i think it's it's nice as lottie. There's no distractions. There's no family in town. There's always liked to be home with the family and stuff but it's it's all football or your hotel room so i think it helps you to lock in more and rest a little bit more And we haven't had to play with any fans in the stadium so there hasn't really been such thing as homefield advantage We got a little bit this week. On their around six thousand and so obviously. That'll be louder than nobody We'll see how it is not isn't free at a news. We check out our show knife fifth radio on youtube in wherever we get your podcast. Oslo police Nfl radio dot com for such shot for eventual merch in emerge such destructing sin as always remain faithful talk.

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Good Morning Niner Empire 10/27/2020

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06:01 min | 6 months ago

Good Morning Niner Empire 10/27/2020

"Hey everybody. This is Jamie from 9 or fearful of radios. Good morning. Niner Empire. Let me tell you about our sponsor Graphics Monger. They are keeping your business from going extinct turn your ideas into a reality with their graphic design team there your source for custom logo designs apparel details and more don't wait any longer and called Graphics Monger at 360-460-8526 or going to Facebook and find them at graphing anger. Also, if you mention nine or feel for radio, you'll get a 10% discount. Thanks, and let's get onto the show. Good morning. Dinner Empire. My name is Jimmy. Today is October 27th. 2020. Let's get into some 49er news the 49ers win their match up against the Patriots 33 to 6 last Sunday. Here's the injury update from College Street and hand baggage injuries from the game. We had Richie James has an ankle sprain. He'll be day-to-day this week. We'll see you on Wednesday Deebo Samuel had a hamstring strain. He'll be out this week. Most likely with the Thursday night game. Most likely Green Bay all so then Jeff Wilson at a high ankle. Sprain go on IR most likely later this week. Also cautioned hand Gibsonburg. Seven Coleman. What's the status of Kevin Coleman he be back this week for you guys or hope so, I'm not sure yet though. I mean you can't go today surprise wage. It's out there fully for Wednesday, but I think that'll be a late in the week decision. He also talks about Trent Taylor and his situation Kyle you obviously haven't had a ton of preowned production from Trent Taylor this year. I'm wondering in your eyes is is he healthy? He's had, you know a big injuries last year and smaller ones this year. Is he healthy and can you find ways to get him more integrated in the offense? Yeah trend is healthy and I definitely could find more ways to do it and I got a lot of respect for Trent and I have a lot of confidence in Trent and I thought he got a couple more opportunities earlier on in this year. But you know with you know, we think Born is played at a pretty high level and we thought he played at a very high level last year too and once Depot and I got healthy and they got back and it was a tough decision, you know, we didn't want to have to take born off the field we felt he had earned that and he does some good things in our what we call the F rural that Trent does too. So that kind of wasn't really as much about Trent Club. About how you can Debo coming back and we felt that KB it or in the right to stay out there. So trying to still been our fourth guy, you know, I'm using him and Richie dependent on the spots and we get them in there. But anytime that does happen you lose a lot of your opportunities, but I know trance ready, I mean once once this opportunity comes up, I mean my confidence and train hasn't changed at all. It's just been more about the other guys should hand also talks about 5 more in Harris and how they filled in for heart and Ward last Sunday it Kyle. How do you think the safeties played yesterday? And what's what's latest on Warden part? I thought they played very well, you know, those guys always come in fly around and hit I call them their goon-squad cuz when they come in, they're just they're a hundred miles per hour and they're trying to run through everything which is really fun to watch sometimes when you're like that you get a little amped up and make some mistakes and those guys limited those yesterday. I mean they were on their stuff. They're on their reads. They they never hesitated. They were physical birth. Turns out there and didn't leave many holes in the coverage either. He also gets an update on Joker's guitar and Jimmie Ward and then Target and Jimmy. I'm hoping they'll both come back this week. But on the exact same boat a lot of other guys, I mean we're going to try but we really won't know till the end of the week and lastly talks about the team's Psychopathic mentality George spoke about enjoying being on a team with a bunch of psychopaths last night saying that he also has heard from you that you like players to find the dark side. Can you share that mentality that you're looking for? Yeah. I mean, I just I think we're at a level where everyone's pretty challenging on to be in the NFL and I think what separates people is what's inside and you know, in order to bring that out on the football field, you gotta be in a pretty aggressive mindset. I mean, it's it's a very aggressive or sport. I don't care how tough you are. I mean the more those hurt those hits hurt they hurt people and if you sit there and you think about it and stuff you'll use up as the game goes and but if you can go to kind of that dark place and Gain, Mind right I can take you to a whole nother level but it's a very fine line with that stuff too. I mean, I always say like usually the most aggressive team who messed this up the least will usually win home and sometimes when you're very aggressive and you're trying to go to that spot a lot of people tend to mess up a lot. That's where you make penalties. That's why you do some stuff you shouldn't do you don't really hear a call and just our little over-aggressive soul is trying to find that even line of where you could take your mind set to whole nother level whole nother aggressiveness, but still do your job still execute still not have penalties and I think we got a lot of guys who are like that and off when they watch one guy act like that. I think they all feed off each other. I mean you seek it'll do it a lot. Everyone does in their own ways. You see Debo do it a lot just and how he plays he's usually Giggle and half the time but he's still a little off out there. If you watch how he plays just like it'll is and you can see with Jeff Wilson last night a bunch and I see it on our defense left and right so you need that from people to be successful. The more you have almost everyone on your team like that is usually when you have a chance to have a special team and that is it for you Friday night and news. Please check out our main show nine up here for radio on YouTube and wherever you get your podcast also check out nine or feel free radio.com. For all your advantage to emerge and numerous. It just dropped. Thanks and as always remain faithful

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Good Morning Niner Empire 11/12/2020

Niner Faithful Radio

04:34 min | 6 months ago

Good Morning Niner Empire 11/12/2020

"Everybody this is jamie from nine. Five radios good morning niner. Empire let me tell you about our sponsor graphics monger they are keeping your business from going extinct turning ideas into reality with their graphic design. Team your source for custom logo designs apparel decals in more. Don't wait any longer graphics. Munger at three six zero four six zero eight five to six or onto. Facebook can find them at graphics munger. Also if you mentioned niner for radio you get a ten percent discount. Thanks. let's get onto the show. Good morning our empire. My name is jimmy. Today's the twelfth two thousand twenty. Let's get into the forty niner news. Here's an entry update from indian our guys injuries for this week. tevin coleman Hopefully not not this week. O'flanagan by for the rams planning fouls out this week Deebo samuel up practice today We'll reevaluate thursday. Kyi kyi williams high ankle sprain. He'll be out for a while Trent taylor won't practice today Back tart mom's going to have to go on I ended up being turf toe Born won't practice theory remains in a covid protocol list most hurt practice. We won't play this week. Hope will hopefully help him back. Also for the rams sherman. We'll get back in practice today for the first time and It's all i got. Kyle also talks about both first round. Picks rookies a in devante law. In how they're doing all. I'm wondering if we're kind of at the halfway point of the season you evaluate the play of your two first round rookies. Devan kinloch in you. It'd be. I'm very happy with our Both of our rookies are first round. Guys i think both of them Started out on positions playing a lot. And i think both of them are getting better. Is this your go so As this poignant tavak last week that that he was having his best games going into that game. And i thought he was going to have his best game way of setup for him And i thought kinlaw Had his best game last week also He's playing very hard and honing in better. He gets an update on quan. Williams pout with kayla williams. Is that a situation. You're going to have to end up putting him on injured reserve also yes We just have to decide on or we don't know yet because he can't he can't go on yard return twice now so gary had that once in a year. So we're trying to evaluate scou- goes high ankle sprain. So you know it's usually four to six weeks which will lead him up towards end of the year so we're not gonna put him on If he can come back because once we do put him on. He can't so just trying to weigh that out and at reactor over the next week or so and see what options are with the rest of our and he talks about richard. Sherman gives an update on him. But what's the expectation for for richard sherman. This week is is it. More likely. He plays against the rams. Are you still taking a wait and see approach. I think it's some. I'm i'm holding out. Hope for the rams you know. I know dr. Churn thinks chance this week in. I've been around enough though. That's why i'd count him out on that But you know my goal is hopefully to get back with the rams. But i won't rule out for anything about his prognosis is and finally tile gives an update on kendrick bourne. Dial can you explain. What's going on with kendrick bourne. I thought he'd had a false positive. Was it a false negative I'm not allowed to talk about it. at mean it's what you heard. I mean positive. Negative negative positive negative sell. It's an. I think everyone the things happen. I guess and rodion with hidden. I notes a weird situation with him at kind of where though with everybody in the world. Not just our football player so We're just trying to do the best with the protocols and hope that he gets cleared up towards always negative and hopefully we can get him out here leader in the net. Is it for your free ananta needs. Please check out our major nephew for radio. I need to in wherever you get. Your podcast also took radio dot com. I shop to get revenge tour. Mitch enamored that just dropped. Thanks as always remained faithful.

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Stats & Eggs, Monday Aug. 24 - Brandon Aiyuk goes down

Niners Nation

05:18 min | 9 months ago

Stats & Eggs, Monday Aug. 24 - Brandon Aiyuk goes down

"What would you do? If you found your family had a dark secret legacy from Michigan and j.j Abrams comes HBO's Newest Series lovecraft country a John Wall bending drama that blurs the line between science fiction and reality in one thousand nine, hundred fifty s Jim. Crow America starring Jonathan, Majors Journey smelly Courtney B, Vance and Michael Kenneth Williams lovecraft country airs Sundays at nine pm on HBO and streaming on Hbo Max. Good Morning I'm Rob Stats Carreira today is Monday August twenty four, th two thousand twenty. Here's what's happening with your San Francisco Forty niners. Rookie wide, receiver Brandon, you has been a star of training camp this year, but he may have injured his left hamstring yesterday while chasing a deep ball during practice I you grabbed the back of his leg on the play and walked with a limp after the incident. No word yet from the team and the severity of the issue. Becomes the fourth wide receiver to get hurt for the team before the start of the season joining Deebo, Samuel who broke his toe Richie James who broke his wrist and Jalen Hurd who tore his ACL Kendrick born and Trent Taylor are the healthiest wide receivers with any experience cow Shanahan system on a team and Taylor missed all of last year recovering from injury. Pass rusher deformed also missed most of practice after injuring his lower body during a one on one rep with tackle Mike mcglinchey. Ford also walked with a limp for a few minutes after the play, which is a shame because according to g Ford finally looked healthy he's got that shot out of a cannon type of get off the line of scrimmage was really presents problems for off into tackles and may get onto your heels a little bit but you know the it's so valuable to see that because of how. His speed and his get off and his ability to set the edge and then turn on the edge. He's got that back, which has been cool to see and cooler feel and call the battle against one good sign when it comes to both of these injuries however, neither you nor Ford went into the Facility for treatment both stayed on the field and watch practice. From the sideline the forty niners have been hit hard by the injury bug. Already this season in addition to the players already mentioned the forty niners have also seen center Ben Garland, Defensive Tackle Dj Jones cornerback Kahlon Juan, Williams tight end roster, wealthy, and offensive lineman. Ross Reynolds all hurt this preseason a little good news now for forty niners fans former number three overall pick. Solomon Thomas has looked good since moving to the interior of the Defensive Line where he excelled at Stanford, he hasn't played their much with the forty niners which defensive coordinator Robert Solace says should change this season we're doing everything we can to make sure that sally stays inside at all cost and when he is in there if you if you look at his tape from. A year ago when he's inside and solely inside I, mean he's a very, very effective football player made a lot of place for us last year inside and and so are are intense try to keep them in there because you're right that's where he excels the most and hopefully by the product just by the fact that we have more defensive ends to. Injury, we have a chance to keep him inside for the entire season Thomas has balked up this off season and told many reporters how happy he is that he'll be on the inside of the defensive line this year quote it's where I made my money in college. Every day on the show, we're going to give you something to read something to watch and something you might have missed something to read on this Monday is Richard Sherman's tweet defending former seahawks teammate Earl Thomas the Ravens Cut Thomas yesterday for quote, personal conduct that has adversely affected. The team that conduct includes a fight with now former ravens teammate the forty niners have been mentioned as a potential landing spot for Thomas by the NFL network's Ian Rapoport. But that seems unlikely as the team just extended safety. Jimmy Ward this off season. Something to watch would be the latest. Of Manual watchos uncomfortable conversations with a black man which features an interview with Commissioner Roger. Goodell. When asked what he would say in an apology to Colin Kaepernick Goodell said quote I wish we would have listened earlier. And finally something you might have missed tackle Mike mcglinchey is lost a little weight this off season, which caused Richard Sherman to give him the nickname big slim mcglinchey. Approved saying quote Richard Sherman can call me whatever the hell he wants. The big slim is a cool nickname. It sounds like I have an album coming out. That's going to do it for this edition of stats and eggs. I'm rob stats. Carreira, we'll talk tomorrow. What would you do? 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Stats & Eggs, 11/13: Jaquiski Tartt is done for the year

Niners Nation

04:19 min | 6 months ago

Stats & Eggs, 11/13: Jaquiski Tartt is done for the year

"Good morning i'm rob stats rare. Today is friday november thirteenth twenty twenty. Here's what's happening with your san francisco. Forty niners the following forty. Niners did not practice yesterday. Tevin coleman river. Craig craft deebo samuel and k juan williams. As if that wasn't bad enough kyle shanahan said on k. mbr that safety jakubowski tarts season is officially over due to turf toe that he sustained last week now tarp being hurt is nothing new he will now have missed forty four percent of the game's over the last four seasons and given the fact that he's a free agent after this season it's entirely possible. He's played his last game for the forty niners in one good bit of injury news. Trent taylor did practice in full something. He wasn't able to do on wednesday on sunday. The forty niners will play a saints team. That is a heavy favourite and should win the game pretty easily. But don't tell that to nick mullins. They're very sound and very detailed and they're aggressive from their experienced other experience group and they're getting off for the quarterback right now so other planning a very high level and We're aware of the challenge but we're prepared every day and We feel just as confident. We love our game plan. I love the guys got on the field and we're ready to attack the fact that mullins could be without deebo samuel and kendrick bourne won't make his life any easier and there is the fact that there will be a small amount of fans in the stands at the superdome for the first time all year. One more sound bite for you before we move on. I had to play this niners. Nations own kyle. Posey ask guard lake and tomlinson about gelling with left. Tackle trent williams. And what he expects. From the duo. The rest of the year here was tomlinson's delusional answer. And i think we're the most dominant left side in the league. You know. Trent wanna get out there. And you know the we execute high lovable and you know i expect to continue that As niners nations rich madrid. Put it on twitter. That's true if you ignore the fact that lake in tomlinson plays left guard. We always give you something to read something to watch and something. You might have missed something to read on this friday. Check out the latest piece from tim. Kawakami in the athletic he defends the draft record of kyle shanahan and john lynch and lays out a pretty compelling reason. Why kyle shanahan may be more willing to go with a mobile quarterback than most people. Think something to watch now. The quickey tart is down for the count. Many on this podcast network have been calling for more playing time for safety tar. Various more will the forty niners grant requests well. If he doesn't play this week he may never get in there. Something you might have missed a twenty five foot. Sinkhole swallowed two cars at a commuter parking lot near levi stadium that would be the perfect metaphor for the season except that yesterday a water main broke in the parking lot next to the forty niners practice field and water and sewer crews were dispatched to the scene to pick up the slop. I was going to write a joke here but the athletics matt barrows beat me to it tweeting. It has truly been a season. That's going to do it for this edition of stats and eggs please. Rate review and subscribe to the niners nation. Podcast network to get this show and all are great shows. I'm rob stats guerrero. We'll talk on monday. Is your business ready to be a five g business. Get the coverage of five g nationwide in more than eighteen hundred cities and in more and more cities the unprecedented performance of five g. Ultra wideband the fastest. Five g in the world. From america's most reliable network comes the five g. Business has been waiting for verizon five g five g oltra wideband enables immersive collaborative. Vr environments and seamless four k video conferences for businesses of any size for as and five. G won't just transform how your phone works. It can transform how entire industries work. Get five g built right in the network. Businesses rely on visit verizon dot com slash g slash business to learn more five g. Ultra wideband available only in parts of select cities global claim based on open signal independent analysis during the period of january thirty first through april thirtieth twenty twenty.

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Niners Nation: Will the 49ers make it to September with 53 healthy players?

Niners Nation

30:29 min | 1 year ago

Niners Nation: Will the 49ers make it to September with 53 healthy players?

"Welcome to the first episode of the niners nation podcasts. My name's kyle posey. You can follow me on twitter at k._p. Underscore show it'll be just me today in the future future. There will be other guests mostly. It'll be members of our staff. Sometimes it'll be the opposing team that the niners played that week. It'll be just random guests here and there. We don't have a name for for this podcast just yet. We need one. I don't want it to be called the niners nation podcasts. I wanted to call it the scarlet jimmy's but apparently that's not appropriate on today's episode. We're going to recap the preseason game with the forty nine ers beat the cowboys seventeen to nine and we have no choice but to talk about injuries just a heads up this was recorded on sunday night and monday morning the forty-nine signs samyong that is going to be the swing tackle that takes place of sean coleman. He spent the last three seasons with the dolphins and in two thousand eighteen he played one hundred twenty one total snaps on offense eighty five of those came at right tackle twenty eight of those came as the left tackle and the other eight believe it or not he played in line tied in a young was drafted in two thousand and ten from the dallas cowboys in the six round. He has twenty one starts in eighty games. He's played with the cowboys bills jaguars and the dolphins you know a lot of people brought up justin excu who the niners draft that i believe in this six round of this past draft but he's just not ready to be that guy just yet in he's six rounder you you can tell by just watching a few snaps than that. He's not ready to play in the n._f._l. That's not really a shot at him. That's just it is what it is so we'll figure that out or hopefully we know they're having to bring in somebody who is along. The lines of cullman cullman was third rounder. I believe so that's pretty quality backup. Other other news was allegedly linebacker in. He broke his thumb. Apparently he's gonna miss two weeks. He'll be back <hes>. Not you know the the biggest news but it's just seems like injuries over over over bikes. I don't know what is in the water in santa clara but <hes> something is up so with lies leaving out that will open the door though for some of the other younger players in there's gonna be a lot of guys that are going to have really have no choice to step up so on as z's al shahir is a rookie undrafted free agent and he plays really fast ask in. He had a really good game so but i believe largely played on the strong side. If i'm not mistaken so a most of the forty niners linebackers it seems using my opinion are better suited for the weeks. I just kinda run and chase guys so and again. It's not going to be the end of the world that lead mrs tie it might <unk> roberson to play more nickel which is probably better suited for today's n._f._l. Anyways other injuries he's on d._j. Jones has a spray and he's week-to-week jimmy ward. Everybody's favorite free safety will have x-rays this week each and they just wanna see what kind of progress he's making t._v. Kind of get him out there and get back to practicing again torn. Had something happened with his hand. I'm not exactly sure because i know he played the majority of the game but he's spy he'll be okay. Martha harris had a stinger. I i believe that was the play where he laid out and he came out but he's okay. Malcolm smith still has a he's done with a hamstring he. He should be back at some point this week rain. Most dirt running back is in the concussion protocol so get ready to see i mean especially as a preseason goes along if they want to rest mabry to see a lot of maybe awesome walter and brandon right and wilds just like we did on saturday and the other injury obviously the biggest one of all trent taylor so chart was his bond in training camp into in his practices and i was watching he ah is pretty clear that if you had to pick one receiver even including kill that garoppolo favors turn taylor more than anybody else that's where his eyes are going so to be retailer to so. There was a couple of different reports. He hasn't stress fracture. I believe it was is is injury and chris peterman of the sacramento bee said that he had he broke his pinky toe so he's going to be out four to six weeks. He said they are expecting. They're hoping that taylor is able to return by week. One a he wouldn't exactly commit. Let's hope in if they have to sit him out through the by even just so he gets like an extra week the buys week four he just an extra week to fully recover that would be big so good news as the forty niners exactly play. If i'm just remembering right they don't play a gauntlet of secondary's early on in the season so <hes> they should be bio taylor ehler book that just means you're gonna have to see more plays like we did from the ricky's and we will get into that in a little bit but that's that's. The andrew drew front so man. It seemed like in a span of twenty minutes during the game guys are just dropping out left and right it was it was <hes> it was something else that's for sure but art <hes> moving on. Let's get to the actual game what we saw just kind of who stood out winners losers takeaways all that good stuff so i thought bed nick mullins. You're going to think that the interception eddie through through and it was a bad. There's no hiding that i thought he just played really well. He hung in there in the pocket <unk> mrs preseason the forty niners happened that was that will play in september and october and the regular season on their offensive line out there. I don't think there was anybody honestly so caramba. Just hang in there and take the big hits and deliver. Some really nice passes <hes>. I thought he played really well. I honestly have no idea what the depth chart is when they're talking about c._j. Beathard or nick mullins buries a clear cut backup quarterback in that as mullins. I i don't understand. I don't think that battered should be on a roster. I understand nate as preseason and you're gonna carry three or four quarterbacks but if it comes down to it and especially given the injuries three quarterbacks is not the way to go wind moans. I don't know i think really highly of him. In this is obviously based on an undrafted free agent knowing you know what his status his draft status where he came from so for what he is nick moses very very good and obviously the league rookie. I thought all these were very very good. Samuel had a towards the end the game spin a better that he ran a double move got past ask. The quarterback was probably ten yards in front of him but he had slowdown the ball. I believe in getting a pass interference on the play schulman touchdown. It should've been a walk in touchdown but iriarte with quarterback problems. <hes> jalen hurd was the star of the game. No doubt about it so we got two touchdowns. He won one. The first one was a little shanahan special. Play action crosses the middle of the field wide open and you kinda see just the dog in her her where you just refused to go down big strong good luck secondary is going to be bigger than the majority of people trying to tackle him when he's in space and that's what makes them so dangerous because he's just not going to go down on first contact. He ran through one tackle in dragged another guy into into the end zone the most impressive one was at fade he conquers that looked easy and he wasn't it wasn't really a contest. It was a good ball and he just went up and got it. He spun away from the defender protected. The balls is a really good play by heard makes it look routine and that's what i think was his <hes> was gonna see and the other good thing about the plays it heard made they both touchdowns came in the red zone. We we've talked about off offseason. How the forty niners really struggle to score in the red zone so saying those plays and seeing him fight on one play and then just making a as simple fade route look easy. That's good to see his other. Catch was a screen. It was towards the end of that. I believe is towards the in the second quarter it. It wasn't a meaningful plato but you still you saw that that bite in heard just trying to refusing to go down on so that was good. Obviously mitch wish now ski. They'll punter pat holloway's favorite player on the roster he i mean there's what what does that say about him. He's a he's. He did his job he. I think at one point in the third quarter he was averaging five kicks in the average for nine yards a kick off forgot what he finished up but <hes> yeah look good. He's he's doing his job. One yet sixty sixty four yarder that i'm sure he would have loved if it was a forty four yard because it just just hit me <hes> just hit the the atta balanced line in the end zone there but that was a game for him. It was a good game for honestly all the reasons. We can't talk about rookies without getting too greenlaw who man he looked he just looked fast and when i was watching the forty niners last year just catching up on all the game to try to get a feel for the team one of the things i've noticed the speed was lacking and i feel like that causing causing them to not be able to make plays in space in that a lot offenses tab place so greenlaw finished with six tackles one was yet the highlight play that he just kind of sniffed out and he essentially he almost met the the ball carrier in the backfield as he was receiving the pitch. It was really nice. Play don't just beat the linemen to the spot of things tackle of loss of four in the backfield. The other play that i was really impressed with was when near the goal line douse was driving and greenlaw drop zone in doesn't fall for like doesn't fall for the underneath it's debt and then closes but closes in a hurry closes light dallas's linebackers l._v. john smith would it was a really really really nice play. I think it was a gain of one or two but that was not on the roster last year. I think that's a man just just watching him. It is going to be very difficult to keep him on the field. I can't imagine a situation if the forty niners spread it out where greenlaw is not one of the better player better options nations to be on the phone. He's gonna have some rough rough place. He's going to have some some hiccups some brain parts and he had one and ironically enough it was was a play that he sees every day in practice where it's just a play action and the tight end comes from the other side. He fell for it and he just he. We let the tight end or their secret behind in and may honestly like i all i did during the the last week. Training camp was just watch the defense defense watch kind of their preparation and they have a specific period where they practice routes on air against you know just like scout team players they run that played it multiple times and sure enough that got him but i mean if if we're gonna nit picking and said he had a bad game because he he a rookie messed up in his first game in one play it's. It's not how it works so yeah. I thought honestly mostly ricky's played well. Even z's that undrafted <unk> linebackers gonna have a chance now. He's flying around yet. You had a big hit where he snicked data screen as well so i'm not play well. I think that there are going into mum. Jalen hurd in deebo. Samuel are going to put the pressure on these other receivers to step up in the conference. Call on sunday kashan in hand said that the receivers are evenly matched. He wants to see somebody. Separate wants to see somebody know kind of make a name for themselves and that just hasn't happened yet. It's been a rollercoaster. I guess is the best way to put it the first week of campbell's the richie game show last week. He was just like he was a wall. He didn't do anything anything shanahan. I don't know if there's a relationship kendrick born but he loves that dude and born did not have a good game. There's no no real other way to put it yet. He had a bad drop on one of those throws where moans got hit like you stood in their hit. It took a hit hit hit bourne in stride and didn't matter <hes> born just dropped it. I dunno jitters or whatever it was first game but he just didn't seem i guess the best way to put it as he didn't seem like he is focused and ready to play <hes> yet another row aware the receiver or the cornerback houses cornerback discount ranch drive for stride with him and broke up and like a deep outright. I believe yeah just born born will bounce back i imagine but he doesn't really have a choice and i feel like every time that shanahan shanahan's mentions the wide receiver group on somebody. Stepping up is not talking about richie james. He's not talking about kendrick born. He's talking about jordan mathews or the rookies. He's talking about dante pettis and daring camp these these last r._n._c.'s last couple weeks. Something is something different with pettus and i do not mean that good way. There's been sort of like a running joke with just some of the fbi writers. We've been talking that it's it seems like whenever somebody gets a hand on pets. He's going to drop a ball which which isn't true. He's made plenty of contested place. He's made plenty of plays in general. I think he's going to be very good. I think he's going to have a good season but he's in a funk. I dunno. I don't know timothy jackson through playing at his new way. I don't know what what is up but it just it just doesn't seem like dante pettis we saw when he was on the field and regular season last year and when he was in college i mean he's still very very young but that seemed like it was either hit or miss miss. It was an all or nothing with the receivers because james who had a rough drop to start. I thought he bounced back well. He made the most of all these other opportunities. He caught all other six passes. I think it was it wasn't for too many yards but i mean he just he caught the ball and that's what you need obviously as a wide receiver so yeah the receivers questionable outside of the rookies but it's i mean it's one game next week against denver. Paddock's could go for one hundred yards born could go for fifty. There could be big plays. Maybe that remember that long play towards endgame demarche on poindexter goes up and i feel i if he's going to make this roster be stachel on the practice squad or just have a chance in the league at his at his size owes of the plays that he is going to have to make so we'll see and like i mentioned all these guys could bounce back and we could be on back on the pakistan wagon and back on all these guys hyphen them up again so yeah office wise. I thought you know i mean what was an eighteen penalties. These guys were the refs will get to the rats later but they were just not very good defensively upfront. I was actually pretty impressed. I thought the defensive line played really well. They got a good amount of pressure. I don't think you you can talk about the defensive line without talking about the mantra moore who was signed from after starring the a. f. was cut and was signed again. He was everywhere on. If you remember early in the game i think it was like third. Fourth play where mega mosey was five for that pass interference a much more actually beat his man and hit the quarterback on that plane that was like whoa he looks legit and that wasn't the only place he finished the game with three quarterback hits. I believe he had i think had him for six total. Quote unquote pressures. He also had re stops which is essentially a loss for the offense when i and you'll hear me mention stops all the time because i mean tackles tackles tackles. Don't mean much if you have fifteen tackles in a game but eleven of them were seven yards down the field. You do not make an impact so yes stops stops. Mattering in democracy more did just that but it wasn't just more the wherever they just signed just feel like it was friday or saturday. There's been so how many moves it. They're all running together but jeremiah elijah he had two sacks. That was nice <hes> they were getting pressure. I mean roberson was dialing up the ladder. The further the game went along. It was disliked. He was solid whatever i'm just gonna. I'm just going to send the house in may dallas alice mucus deep and it seemed like they could do that consistently in the preseason. Nobody's going to be able to consistently because it's all backups clangs so for nine years i think they have the team speed finally to be able to send in the house. Even though mitt speaking of moseley he actually had one where he got free run at the quarterback was not able to bring him down and i'm sure that he was kicking himself after that but i know antoine x._m. Had a big play at the end of the game where it was essentially the same blitz he got there and had a nice sack or reynolds was another linebacker <hes>. He didn't even play that much but he had that sack fumble. Will there were after him it was it was good to see so i would say a the defensive line was pretty good. I think we're all really interested to see what contained a street did he didn't he didn't have any like flash. Flash plays like fancy place but here's out there a lot and he was. He's a guy that has high energy and you know they're going to need that so they. I think the preseason for the forty niners this defense specifically is going to be find out who that who can read other rusher if democracy more is able to contribute honestly five or six plays a game where he just flashes in the backfield that will be more than enough assuming you have a healthy ford and nick both obviously <hes> so yeah. I'm going to see just how our next week goes as far as will more play with the starters is will contain retreat by <unk>. He looked fine will <hes> what anton x._m. Jump over uh agent colder marshall harris just in the citation. I and i know that x. Place recite the speaking of those who safeties it. We're gonna talk on losers. Quote unquote disguise at you know need to step up on the defensive side. I thought colbert and the harris did not play well. I know harris had a hit. A flash played near the line of scrimmage but there are there are plays where him and colbert. I think they're just like a step late and covered in and that's it's not it's nothing new. I just think that i don't know if they're not trusting what they see or are. What is it but they are. They seem like they're better suited near the lineup scrimmage which is great but this is a pass happy. Leading teams are going to pass what like would sixty seventy percent of time and they're going to be spread out so you if you can't cover. It's going to be tough free to see the field and i think with if in a price house like an overreaction but if colbert and harris can't do that what what is there. What is their value on the roster. Which is why like giving a guy like tomorrow's more as many reps as possible <hes> more. He has the upside and i've been talking. I've been hammering at home all off season because i really do think he is going to be very good. He and it might not be this year. You might have some rough spells and he's not going to look like he's not going to be entering this a year. Let's let's face it but he's gonna make <unk>. I think he's gonna make plenty of plays. Especially once the actual defense is out there and just once he starts to see hang once was he gets comfortable with route route concepts and whatnot but i don't know man he he just has there's so much athleticism and so much awareness already that it's hard to imagine him not being a good player so i think i believe he played all but seven of snaps and he came back in when coburg gotti jetted later later on the game and he added dumb penalty to more where he he pushed the guy bounce gave the offense free fifteen yards in he didn't know there's no reason to do that but i wanna see how how these younger guys are going to develop so that'll be that'll be something to watch but <hes> yet i i really was impressed by the line and i i want to see i'm not going to be at the joint practice but chan mentioned in that's going to be a lot more valuable than the preseason game in he you wouldn't even commit to how long or if the starter's will play next monday eh so join practice. You're going to say a lot. It'll be nice for them. I imagine in practice to get to four days of just getting getting a look at chris harris for example great great cornerback. She's gonna gets dante. Pettis joe staley and mike mcglinchey going up against von miller bradley chubb. They're going to be matchups all over the field where before nine hundred can really get better so that'll that'll be good. <hes> i want to go over some and these are going to be briefed by the way i'm not going to be around for too. Long hours going to hammer home about what we saw aw in the games and obviously <hes> did mention about the rest so twenty three total penalties. If that was a regular season game eh that would have the the yardage for hundreds of would have been a record about the previous penalty yardage was or the record was. I think it's two oh oh six or something like that. The forty niners had eighteen penalties for two hundred sixteen yards which okay some of those penalties were b. S. no doubt about the one on dante johnson who knows. I'm not a fan just like you not your wife ear. Still that said what did did he do wrong on that play. What does he spoke to do. On the first one one of the cowboys fans were was arguing with me on the moseley <unk> the moseley pass interference and i i am a db guy and i will always side with the defense of back the gallup michael gal the cowboys receiver put his arm out to like push him moseley goes to swipe his hand away push him off and his hand is they get caught in hand fighting battle he it's called for a flyer and i understand that he didn't re look back. It has defensive back. You're taught to not look back until you're in phase or even with the receiver. So why would he look back. All it's gonna do slowing down bad call <hes> there were there were a handful of bad 'cause where it honestly seemed like the rest. Trolling at one point eighteen to five is a crazy discrepancy by whatever it's preseason. I have a hard time believing leaving that it'll ever be that lopsided any game goodman's for the defense getting back to the game who quit the taos to four yards four for yards per play which is really really good dallas had under three hundred total yards. I am not a total yards guide all but i imagine that's probably one of their boesky monitor. That also big for the defense dallas made the red zone. Four times made to red zone. Four times did not score score a touchdown so that's a that's a big one for the point knives. I know it's the preseason back. Certain people are zeke is not playing their your best. Players aren't playing but i mean they had the majority of their first team offense out there within the forty niners had the other backups and they couldn't punch it in so that's a good assigned despite you know not having the <hes> the bow south four fred sherman all their best players out there <hes> if if we want to stop or just m._v._p. The game i feel like it has to be heard right. He had two touchdowns touchdowns matter obviously but as i mentioned red zone touchdowns that defensive m._v._p. Man i i. I won't say dre greenlaw. I do i i would give it to diamante more just because so he was playing essentially all <music> game he started and he was still out there. When gauss was you know driving towards the end of the game so he played like a full game and he's making plays in the first quarter and he was making plays in the fourth quarter one play towards the envy game where i believe a stop where he beat a block or beat a guy towards <hes> beat somebody pulling lineman or whatever was and he made a play in the backyard so that was good to see man so seventeen nine niners pull it out denver on deck and i. I really think that <hes> just there. There'll be some changes and callahan would completely commit to you know what those changes would be a we asked him on sunday is devoting a play more is jalen hurricane and play more. They're going to be mixed in jimmy garoppolo. He wouldn't say anything but the way that he made it sound because the plane was actually before turn. Taylor got hurt he was he was going to rest anyways because he wanted chance and he wanted to see these these guys play. He was gonna arrest goodwin and taylor so i wonder if that'll be a case again on monday next monday against the broncos but ah what's going on with jordan mathews and i try to ask that question today but i didn't get an answer. Matthew's only played like seven snaps. I believe it was so so either. There's nothing that they wanna see out of him or is he. The odd man out who knows <hes> matthews is usually good for one play in practice and he it's funny because he will let you know about that play like he. I remember he got a touchdown. I think it was thursday and he was just jawing all up and down the sideline and honestly nothing else but <hes> pretty serious. I am excited added to see the offensive line play at the start and i want to see how they look against numbers passer because denver is known for getting after the quarterback being aggressive progressive so hopefully we can see at least a few series of the forty niners starting offense against but that denver pass rush other than that man. We're gonna we're gonna. We're gonna find out who the forty nine hundred bringing in with the with the injuries were getting closer and closer. I believe to the other teams making cuts. <hes> hasn't been any to surprising cuts just yet but you know i imagine with that waiver wire the forty niners have that second way why they they are in a position to do some good players if somebody israeli so we'll see we'll get there but i think that's all for me today guy so nine hundred seventeen nine and we will be back next monday ticker hi automatically editor in chief of eater. I am daniel janine producer here at meter and we are here to tell you about our brand podcast digest every week on the show we dive into the weirdest funniest and most important stories in the world of food with the inside scoop from the biggest names in the industry an expert insights from the newsroom <hes>. It's a really fun time so i would say subscribe to eaters digests for free today on apple podcasts or your favorite podcast app.

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Good Morning Niner Empire 12/10/2020

Niner Faithful Radio

06:10 min | 5 months ago

Good Morning Niner Empire 12/10/2020

"Hey this is jamie fernando. v radios. Good morning manner empire. Let me tell you about our sponsor graphics munger they're keeping your bris going extinct. Turn your idea into reality with graphic design team the your source for custom logo designs apparel decals and more don't want any longer and co graphics munger at three six zero four six zero eight five to six or on facebook confront find him at graphics munger also if you mentioned ninety five radio you'll get a ten percent discount. Thanks let's get back to the show. Good morning for dinner empire. My name is jamie. Today is december tenth to doesn't twenty. Let's get into forty nine news. Here is cautioned hand with an injury. Update all right guys Injuries for today Compton will not practice. He's in the protocol a concussion protocol. Dj jones ankle. Sprain will not practice Debate deebo samuel has a foot. Contusion will not practice k juan williams ankle Will not practice today We'll see goes on the week Moseley hamstring also not practicing today. We'll see how it goes in the week And kevin givens excuse for personal. Reasons also goes into it if he evaluates qbc differently nether he is the head coach. Hell you've been evaluating quarterback since you started out in the league now that you've been a head coach. Do you look at them any differently. Do change your perspective on how you evaluate them at all. Quarterbacks yes the i dunno. It's 'cause head coach. Maybe i don't know. But i mean how i evaluate. Everything is always changing. I mean things change people change. I mean you start to see the you can win football games with any type of quarterback as long as they are good enough and you can be good enough and hundreds of different ways. So i mean i evaluate quarterbacks in terms of trying to find people who can have a chance to be one of those elite type guys and there's lots of different ways to do it. I mean you can see now. There's plenty of different ways so. I don't think that'll ever change. I don't think you have one certain thing you're looking for. You're trying to find a guy who is better than about ninety eight percent of the people on this planet and are in this country and when you find that you get them and you adjust to him he also talks about. Why trent taylor. With a healthy scratch. Last game we characterized. Trent taylor as as a healthy scratch for this this most recent game has he been entirely healthy. I mean are those injuries that he dealt with in previous years still a bit of a factor in how he's able to to move around. I got you'd have to ask shrimp more Matadi he's been healthy We can we all throughout the whole year You know both. I you come back deebo and back with Born taken over the the third role. richie And being a capable punt returner and also our forth receiver and then being able to do a punt returner and river craft had done a good job. I on special teams in more areas than as a returner so he doesn't have to be an odd man out with guys being healthy and what. You're not that receiver gave you took that over. That's always come down to special teams. And that's where it's been unfortunately for us. So he talks about if you number one wide receivers should return punts seemed like at practice you. You got a pretty close eye on brandon. I you just as a punt returner. There's a group of people that are in the mindset that you don't wanna have your best players returning punts for injury risk and there's another group of people that think that you just want to get the best player a ball every opportunity you get what went into the decision for you just to let just let return punts in was your takeaway from his from his loan retired. I mean i've been wanting to use them. you know. We always knew we would use in their if he did as good as he did in college and nothing change and we felt that since the day we met him but you to wait till he's consistently get an author and a few more practices in and i told them on wednesday. We met at the early in that week that he was gonna have some opportunities in the game I didn't know exactly what which ones. But it's also what went into taylor going down that we knew we had two guys that we could go with richie or i. I wanted to give you a chance. He got one on the first one of the game. You know it just happened to be really late and he did with it what we were hoping you could do. And i understand people's philosophy. On that i mean you know when you have a starting receiver like that. You're probably not going to put him out there every single time. But i also. I view porn returns in kick returns as two totally different things Punt returns i think are a lot easier to protect yourself on as opposed to a kickoff. Return doesn't mean you can't get hurt though you get hurt on anything also. He gives an update and dj jones. Cow followed up on pj jones. Was it indeed. A high ankle sprain. What are the chances that he plays guys again this season. It wasn't high ankle sprain. I'm still very fortunate that will play again for a season. But it's not healthy enough to go today. So i'm holding out hope for at this week but it'll be a day to day thing and finally the foreigners versus cowboys game has been moved to sunday. 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Stats & Eggs 11/12: No Mostert or Sherman this week vs. NOLA

Niners Nation

04:18 min | 6 months ago

Stats & Eggs 11/12: No Mostert or Sherman this week vs. NOLA

"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why ibm is helping. Businesses manage customer. Questions with watson assistant. It's conversational ai. Designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm dot com slash watson assistant. Good morning i'm rob stats. Today is thursday november twelfth. Two thousand twenty. Here's what's happening with your san francisco. Forty niners it's thursday and you know what that means injury updates. Let's start with the offense brahim. Oh stirred and kevin coleman no go this week. They'll be back after next week's by to face the rams as such the forty niners elevated running back andrew walter from the practice squad. Yea i'm sure he'll help a lot this week against the saints as for wide receiver. Deebo samuel. he'll be reevaluated. Later today fellow wide. receiver. Trent taylor has a back. Injury won't practice kendrick bourne however is on track to travel with the team and returned from the reserve covid nineteen list in time to play the saints on the defensive side of the ball k. while williams becomes the i dunno eight hundred forty nine to suffer. The dreaded. high ankle sprain. So he's going to be out for a while. Safety jakubowski tart also is on. I are now turf toe. He will be gone for at least three weeks. Defensive back richard. Sherman did returned to practice yesterday but he isn't likely to play against the new orleans. It's looking like he'll be back after the bye week against the rams as well despite all the adversity this season and losing record captain mike. Mcglinchey isn't losing hope. Now this audio is a little bit rough so stick with me. But here's what mcglinchey had to say yesterday. No matter what's happened this year we still have a chance and we still have this. The next eight games on the schedule or night or seven games. Whatever the math comes out to on the schedule that we have a chance to be. We're in a position where we can still be in it. And that's all that matters when it comes down to it and more that you go through the season the more chances we're going to have in the next couple weeks here to get guys healthy and be in a position where we can do. What we we know we're capable of doing and get to the point where we can keep moving forward. Mathematically speaking. he's not wrong. The forty niners have not been eliminated from playoff contention and if the nfl expands to eight teams in each conference. They probably won't be for a while but the truth is even if guys come back healthy. This team hasn't shown the talent or the consistency to make you believe they'd be able to put a run together regardless of who is in the lineup. Even just to get to the playoffs let alone make a deep run. It's just not in the cards this year. We always give you something to read something to watch and something. You might have missed something to read on this thursday check out matt barrows column in the athletic. It's a mailbag column. And in it he lists the forty niners top draft priorities and number. One isn't a quarterback in fact it's a position that will probably make a lot of forty niners fans pretty mad something to watch both drew. Brees and michael. Thomas were listed as a limited on yesterday's practice report for the saints. Of course drew brees was on the practice report and then went out and threw four touchdowns against the bucks still. You never know maybe get lucky and no miss a week something. You might have missed. This isn't forty niners related. But it's close seahawks running back. Chris carson hasn't been able to play recently due to a nagging foot injury and apparently some idiot fan decided to direct message him on social media and complain that he wasn't helping his fantasy team carson responded by sending the fan his home address and telling them to come and make him play as carson. Put it quote. You're better pull up to that's gonna do it for this edition of stats and eggs. Please rate review and subscribe to the niners nation podcast network to get this show and all our shows including the gold standard with myself and eleven black this week. We take a deep dive into the potential quarterback options for the forty niners next season and pick the scenario. We most want to see in twenty twenty one. I'm rob stats carreira. We'll talk tomorrow.

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2020 Week 1 Recap

Around the NFL

1:34:19 hr | 8 months ago

2020 Week 1 Recap

"Round with the NFL podcast. IS THE LAST American dynasties. Well, come to another edition of the around the NFL. PODCAST. My name is Dan hands this coming to you from the virtual room filled with Euros Mark Sesame Chris Wesseling Greg Rosenthal. Week won. What's up boys. Hey Dan. Yeah Flagship. Day of the year right. Well. Yeah I always said the best Sunday of football of 'cause you got the most Sundays in front of you and this year it does feel. Like a celebration to get here although I don't know if it's GonNa be the best Sunday the feel like the quality will probably get better as they get a little nothing but a celebration I was that. To wire as the ashes. Outside of my window celebration wildfires still raging here in southern California and California, throughout the state and this is for me. The first time that I wasn't at the NFL Office in eleven years where of course are working from home because of you know, and so we had to find new ways to watch the gains and I hope everybody managed to do that and and cover the games that were drafted on Thursdays show and West's was not part of the the draft on Thursday but his luckily and thankfully joining us here tonight. So we're going to go through every game that was played on Sunday wrapping up with the Sunday night football game between the cowboys and the rams and. Greg do you have any kind of broad takeaway from week one? Not Really Spotting that that I. That I do WanNa give these seems a little bit of a wide berth overreact anyways and have fun with what happened been today but I think more than ever the first two to three weeks of the season feels like you know let's let's warm up let's get ready and if you have teams you root for, let's hope you pocket some dubs because they'll still count the same at the end of the season even if it's in these first easy early weeks. All right. So here we go. Time to do it. Are you mark you ready? I'm ready. You know what? Honestly I loved the day for you and I and our favorite sports. But I brushed that off pretty quick went in with a playmate expectations we'll get into that but I thought the working thing was. Pretty. Pretty. Seamless. I'm lobbying to essentially never leave my home ever again you think in mid way through second quarter today like well, it's different not feeling the negative energy around us with the jets and. Browns getting drubbed so by so much. In my mind, but but I like it. You never know week one's going to bring in. It can offer a surprise in so many different directions but to have it be the same old like kick in the pants like Charlie Brown. It's just I feel for you guys because I know the feeling in baseball. Yeah I I feel like I've gotten some type of radiation poisoning being next to mark all these years. So I feel refreshed Sunday night I don't know why maybe there's there's a reason why all right let's do it. Let's get into every game that was played on Sunday and let us start. With. The most famous quarterback perhaps in the history of football starting in new it didn't go too well. God One in motion again to the right Brady takes a gun snap quick throw near fact, picked up to North Jenkins Fifteen, ten, thirty, two, watt touchdown doors Jenkins pick six. I looked easy to look easy balls behind. News. Alastair. Robinson salt in the wounds extra. Also the call wwl Generis. Jack Rabbit. Jenkins. Picked up Tom Brady took it thirty six yards to the house as the saints host Tweet Thirty, four twenty three win over the bucks an empty superdome neither offense. Working a high level in this one Greg but New Orleans seems to be a step ahead at the start of the seat. It reminded me of a lot of saints wins from last year where the score was a little misleading. High scoring game, but they won with defense with special teams with the other team the bucks. In this case, you know kind of shooting themselves in the foot and making a lot of mistakes it was not a great showcase. For quarterbacks after forty, they both look they both looked older than forty. It wasn't great game. I wouldn't say for either one of them Brady made bigger mistakes. Brady also made a number of better throws I would say than drew brees in this game but it spells out to me it's early I'm not gonNA judge too much but I just think the saints have so much more margin for error than the bucks do in this division because they can win games like this because they can win six games with Teddy Bridgewater. And I think this secondary especially with generous Jenkins and West is boy CJ, Garter Johnson who had a monster game to those guys make them. So deep that they can do a lot of fun things up front and they confuse, Brady a couple times. They made plays on their own, and if they're special teams is going to be good like it was today. It's just like it's GonNa be a hard time beating this team. And a couple years ago this offense change from going as drew brees goes to Alvin Kamara. Thomas and you saw Kamera today had the explosiveness. His yardage numbers weren't there but he looked like the old Alvin. Kamara. On those two touchdowns making people miss and looking. At the Brady interceptions. Really to me illustrated and bucks team that needs more time to get fluid on offense there was a clear miscommunication with with Mike Evans I believe on one of them and It's going to just take patients with all these teams unless you mentioned at the top of the show, it's like we can freak out about the bucks not looking anything like they were hyped up to look but let's talk in a couple of weeks and it just seemed like for all the preparation Brady was still sinking up with the rest of the team. I'm Greg Grant didn't do much in this game, and after the Game Bruce Arians the head coach he actually was open about it instead on the interception that Brady threw. That was intended for Mike Evans that Mike Evans did the right thing the thing he's taught to do, which was Kinda. Sit Down in the covering of a Brady didn't do the right thing. So I don't know if that's Arians sight of the guy that's been in the house longer or what but it just shows you like mark said, this is GonNa take some time it's the opposite. He would always justify every Davis Winston intercepted. He's got to be thinking what now you're starting to throw the quarterbacks under the bus I mean just kind of the opposite of what the Patriots were last year, which wasn't necessarily good either. But, they were just sloppy. They had so many penalties and that is something airings got to work on. They led the league in penalties a year ago and I guess if you're a bucks fan in the end, you do want to be a little concerned about this game. One spot is Donovan Smith, which they're left tackle who struggled Trey Hendrickson beat them clean a few times. I was a big problem in general the Saints Pass Rush Look Pretty Good in Donovan Smith is a guy who drafted who Jason Light gave a huge contract made no sense at the time he gave him at no point. Is Donovan Smith really played particularly well left tackle and that is Tom Brady's left tackle and that to me is a little emblematic of the buccaneers who had bad draft picks and have kept some. Of their bad draft. Did you get any clarity about I? Know that Ronald? Jones had by far. The most carries thing it was a seventeen, but you take away the twenty one yard run he had and he ran for like two yards per rush and the whole team general both teams the ground game seem a little flat but the bucks I feel like on the Tom Brady of twenty twenty team, a running game that's not operable is would be a concern for me I. I was surprised that both teams ran the. Ball so much because the bucks were historically great stopping the run. So it wasn't a surprise to me the saints could run them, but they kept trying and the bucks were one of the most passive teams in the first half of games, not even after James it but they were passed happy early last year and they really weren't. It wasn't working and the saints are a really good rushed defense and I come back to maybe the coaches west like who are usually so aggressive and so confident the the saints especially it. Strikes me when you're bringing in Tastes Hill on some really key third down breezes numbers were ugly until late in this game and he hit a big forty six yarder that ended up being the key play the game. So credit to him for that but they were like running and bring in Hell for key third downs in everything is so condensing the bucks defense cooking and I know that something you think's going to be a problem for the saints long-term and and I think it's fair. I think it's a fair concern. It's Locked that up. That was that was marketing and by the way people on twitter honking. That bold for locking this went up and it was like a field goal game. The bucks are a town. I like I want to engage with with people's takes but that was a horrible take just like you go to the desert, it was completely right in the mirror world. So I completely ignore those comments. Sorry with sorry west add set you up before all that. Yeah I think that transition's been going on for a while. Now I don't think this is new to this year I. Think you're seeing drew brees passing numbers efficiency the last few years propped up by the way Sean Payton uses him and it's to hide his arm and I think you're seeing more and more of that where going to need tastes hill on more plays to his credit. He did have that forty yard pass that That was a big play in this game but I think the rest of the game you saw that his arm was an issue. The quietest game in years for Michael Thomas who of course risked everything to break the Marvin Harrison. Receptions record a year ago. He saw just five targets today his lowest since week eleven of two, thousand eighteen and he also sustained. Some type of ankle injury late in the game. Mike Florio reported the Thomas was walking in the locker room after the wind, but he hadn't let the trainers look at it. They were still trying to examine him which is Kinda of funny image image of little trainers. Trainers chasing around Michael Thomas please. Let us examine your ankle So I'm I'm assuming that will happen at some point but something to keep an eye on there. All right. So Tom Brady's new adventure starts with a loss. Let's keep rolling through and talk about another legendary quarterback checking attention pay rod going down the right sideline. Past, it did the. He took it away from Cameron Dan's ller. Twenty. s gambling forty, five, yard touchdown reception. Wayne Laravie WTMJ with a call. My own Aaron Rodgers went off against the young and not ready. For Prime. Time. Or Daytime Vikings defense throwing four touchdown passes and Davante Adams tied a franchise record with fourteen catches in the packers forty three to thirty four win over the Vikings at US Bank stadium. The Vikings Defense. It was a mess they gave a five hundred, twenty, two yards. Their worst outing since giving up five, hundred, fifty, six yards to the rams in their high flying stage twenty eighteen and they were just the secondary was picked on by Rogers and West I can't wait to see where Rogers falls on the Chris Weslend Qb an index this week because you had higher than most people would have in that exercise going into week one and what he did today an absolute clinic and. Yes, I have sandwich prop about him being an all pro this year, and who knows it's just one game but my God did he looked like Aaron Rodgers and you'll watching that game he could have even more yardage that could have been Ghadir if not for a drop by mvs that negated a about a sixty yard gain and Allen lazard. Fell stumbled toward the end zone when he should have been walk in score. So this could have been more grisly for the Vikings defense and more glorious for Rogers. But that's not really the point. The point is not only. Did Rogers look great incompletions are almost always just throwaways smart plays it was almost functionally a perfect game and if you're a packers fan my goodness are you excited right now? I think even as we've watched this more slump prone. Aaron Rodgers over the last few years where the whole football community tries to figure out what's wrong with him, and now going into this year, everybody had soured on him quite a bit. The packers soured on him. Sure but at no point, do I remember anybody ever seen physically he looks like he's in decline like nobody ever said he can't get this passed on anymore he can't escape trouble in the pocket anymore. I don't think it's ever been a physical thing. I think it's been falling into bad habits and a lot of that comes from not trusting receivers. If he can trust mvs this year I think that's pretty big. I am always ready to just with one game go right back into the tank, for Roger, stink just believe it. Because it makes sense like those the good games he hazard as good as anyone and he had a couple last year but you're right there are a lot of slumps. But it's also because I've seen Tom. Brady have what I thought was his best two year run of his entire career at thirty nine and forty and I don't know if riders can stay as fit. But I know he's he's got an upstairs like like Brady and so it does make you think that Brady who I thought I had a couple more down years maybe in his mid thirties. Cranked? It backup in his late thirties like that. It's at least possible with the right play collar and this is an amazing start to drop over five hundred yards in week one. Against Defense that should have some idea. What you're doing is is pretty amazing. Yeah. I was GONNA say these teams know each other so well, and there's a lot of similar characters there from the past and you know we talked all season long about a viking secondary with a completely new cast of cornerbacks in. Yeah. Last year's weren't great. So it's not like lost the Legion of boom. Of the Mid West but everyone's like, Oh, Mike Zimmer will coach up they'll be fine but this has to be extremely concerning I. I'd also ask like on the offense offense of side for Minnesota I mean I'm seeing like the numbers here and I just outside of Adam thiel and not a lot of juice was adjusted. They got down early in the whole thing fell apart. It was absurd. The defense couldn't get off the field. So by the time, the first half ended kirk cousins had thrown five passes. And in fact, defense is on the field for almost twenty three minutes in the first half, and then you'll reason this game is even remotely close in the final score is because a bunch of like prodigious guard garbage time production from cousins to Adam feeling I mean this was an embarrassing loss for the Vikings they're lucky nobody was in that building because as as humble and as sweet as mid Westerners are they would've been getting booed because they did not show up. On any level in fact. The, meal being out was something that we all said Oh that could be an issue. It was way worse than anyone could imagine Minnesota according to ESPN Minnesota pressured Rogers on just seven of forty four dropbox including eighteen schrage without registering a pressure and the remember us all doing backflips about how brilliant Rick Spielman was for getting Yanagawa. Hey, he could still be an all pro this year for all we know he didn't have a single pressure in this game. So He's obviously he's a little banged up to. So the the the they were not getting push up front nobody could cover in the back end and their frankly lucky. This game was a fifty to ten. At they were they spent all offseason trying to erase the memory of the. beating. They took and San Francisco closed last year a game that I thought peg Minnesota as a team that just sort of halfway there in that group playoff teams you can't really believe in this is an ugly opening chapter were right there in with with the packers you get blown out last year in the biggest game of the year than you you have to get past this team now, they're going to have to do it in Lambo maybe maybe it doesn't matter anymore. With fans we'll. We'll find out but does, but I'm upset the fact that they set a record for the lowest possession I think in their franchise history today not a good way to start the season. Yeah we we all and that's the four of us and everyone else that's listening to this show in Ricky. We have to keep perspective on week one. But. It could not be any worse for the Vikings through one game. Let's move on. Hand off here to paint Barbara with time. The yes. Touchdown touchdown Washington. Bram Weinstein. And that was not the end zone hall with the call that was Julia. Julia Donaldson I know that that She's part of. Look at you frozen Rosenthal. PERSON ALL HELL The Washington football team. Payton Barbara ran for two touchdowns and Dwayne haskins rallied Washington from a seventeen point deficit to beat the eagles twenty, seven seventeen and Ron rivers debut as head coach West this is supposed to be a manageable assignment for the eagles. The hell happened. This was wild. If you would've told me at the two minute warning of the first half. The Washington football team win this game. I want to say you're not worth the time you're talking crazy. You're paranoid delusional just get away. There's no way that happens. and then. Stop me if you've heard this before and Ohio State Pass rusher with difference making talent joins a front seven loaded with former first round draft picks, and they turn around and make life miserable for quarterbacks with the waves and waves of rushers right now did Carson Egos Line? In the eagles line looked like a line that's missing guys. It there are two big problems here I believe the right side of the eagles line had never started a game before the entire right side. They were a big issue and Carson Wentz needs to get get rid of the ball, throw the ball away if he has to. pull the trigger once in a while, but he held the ball to too long. So as a mixture of both of those things and then the redskins defensive line like I said, sending waves a pass rushers at them and I've seen that like Erz and Goddard counted for half of their two, hundred seventy passing yards, which reminds me a lot of last year. So I mean I know they're banged up but they do they look like anything new compared to where we were with the eagles offense as season ago. Oh I think God is even more involved. I wrote that you know a few minutes into the game. This guy has already emphasized folk a focal point of the passing game in a way he wasn't last year. So I expect this to be even more tight end oriented a Jalen rigor have one long pass at fifty five yard bomb and was targeted a couple more times deep Sean Jackson, I think would've had a lot more production at have. Wentz had time to throw the ball in the second half right? They had a total of. Five hundred yards or so these teams. So Washington's offense didn't exactly light it up I. mean they combined for less than that the packers didn't one day but I'm GonNa do the thing where I swooped in like two minutes of the game but make a sweeping judgment from it, which was the game was very much those two double swoop to the game was very much. In the eagles hands or at least they were in the game late when Wentz had Jackson on timing, play deep down the field and overthrew index and was not pleased about that and on fourth and three, they decided to go for it and. Just drops a past. So that's Carson wentz Esteban Dax in an Erz not making plays at the end and those are kind of your guys. Well at the point you picked up, they have probably gone two and a half quarters without a single positive thing happening on offense and I think they had stopped believing that it single positive thing could happen on offense. He was sacked eight times. Carson. Wentz and. So that was not that's not sustainable. I know he was able to stay on the field for the entire regular season last year before that concussion against the seahawks but you're not keep him on the field of the can protect. What did you see from Haskins was? He did just enough and I mean literally just enough I, believe is I two touchdowns came directly after a winces I two interceptions. Dante's credit. He got the good field position and led them down to scores but He looked a little sluggish to me a little more slow moving than he did last year. He got credit for giving a pretty, pretty good halftime speech when Ron Rivera physically couldn't do it Haskins took over and redskins. Half Way I thought of you in like Ron Rivera has talked this week about literally going through treatments for his illness right now, and like the idea that you've got to perform the duties of a head coach, you know the long preparation but then being on the sideline during what must be one of the most pressure packed experiences you can have man. That's a that's a concern for that team. Just, physically standing there all day I mean that's gotTa wear them out I get that so You guys halfway through today I had to go lay down and back arrest it just it just wears you down. So I'm impressed that he's even out there in the first but right now he was getting an IV shot. To give him energy to stand up on the sideline for the second half it it's it's remarkable I. Know It's been A. Rough Rough. Six months for this organization to come out with week one with the win that's got gotta feel pretty sweet. and. Conversely, if you're the eagles and yeah, you know miles, sanders but man guys like Rosenthal been pop in this team up forever the Eagles feel highly of themselves and then he co go out and you go up seventeen zip against Washington and then you'll lose that you cannot that can't happen. That's a really bad way to start your season talking to you greg. Team. I mean. They have to feeling like they're snake. I think they were missing seven started. We didn't even mentioned Lane Johnson. We didn't know what was going to be out necessarily Derek Barnett John Hargrave and you mentioned sanders we know about the offensive Lineman it's it's it's a rough way to start, and then you also just you know play play terribly to blow away like you still can't blow lead like that. No matter how many guys are out? All right let's talk about your actual favorite team Greg Newton fakes to roles with the right cams gonNa run it to the Ted. Outside of the five new into the pylon dot. Patriots. His second in his New England debut. Their boy. I figure they just threw Zolak in the Boston harbor wants down Brady. Left us. Do you have at that point? I guess he's still employed. They've done it before Scott Zolak with the culprit wbz check under the Mass Pike. Cam Newton Russ for fifteen ten fifteen times for seventy five yards and two scores through one hundred, fifty, five, four, leading the Patriots to a twenty. One to eleven win over the dolphins in the first game of the Post Tom Brady era in New England Greg I wondered on Thursdays Preview. Show how much this version of Newton. would be running in Josh mcdaniels offense I. Guess The answers the Bunch. Yeah. That is the offense. I don't I don't know if that'll be the entire offense each week but I think it's GonNa be the the base part of it I mean I think. They want to be the ravens they. They looked like they wanted to be not not that Newton's dynamic in the same way making long runs and breaking tackles. But that his running threat and and the read option, the option plays are gonna be kind of the centerpiece of their offense in maybe that was partly because it was week one in Belichick. After the game that he thought conditioning was a huge factor and you could see the dolphins defense getting more tired and more tight. You can see the Patriots defense getting a little tired at the end of this game too but three drives after halftime Y-. Just dominant eighteen minutes in those three Dr They'd at least six first downs in each of those drives if Nicole Harry hadn't fumbled the ball out of the end zone. At the goal line, four touchdowns on all three of those drives and they basically did the bachelor plan they just ran the clock out i. mean they were done with this thing by like three forty they were back in the locker room I mean this was mark. Settler Dream Game Right here I started getting all these tweets about you're gonNA YOU'RE GONNA love this game on game pass and then I found out why I saw some cut ups to and I kind of. Trust the Patriots in week one as much as anyone just to be prepared and like they were thrown out some freaky looks and like heavy sets with like dine guys up on the line and like you know, and that's health how some of this worked in the dolphins just looked a little faceless and then you get this game where you know everyone's saying year two in a row for Ryan Fitzpatrick he goes out and throws three picks I. Mean You have no shot? Yeah, I kept. Thinking about this patriots running game, what they wanted to do to kind of hide. Tom Brady's decline the last year or so and to hide the lack of skill position talent at wide receiver, they've wanted to have this running game. And I almost want to give them credit for for having the guts to get rid of Tom Brady, and bringing Cam Newton as if it was some. Grand, plan. I don't think it was the grand plan to bring Cam Newton but what better guy to do it if that's what you wanted to do right well, that's the thing they're adapting into play into the strength of the guys that are there. They locked out huge that no one signed cam and I think. Teams without quarterbacks are going to be regretting that because he looked like Cam Newton and you can build a team around and we'll see if he stays healthy but it is. Through the Vault Nineteen Times ran the ball fifteen times. I mean is that sustainable? We'll see but I think they're playing another strength and they know what they are, which is the running game at I think five runners had five or more carries they have this undrafted kid JJ. Taylor who looked really good. who was a factor and then their secondary is really good. Fitzpatrick had no one open the whole game he did throw costly picks but they they were just saying he cannot find anyone which isn't a surprise Devante Parker got hurt midway through, and this is a really good secondary and it doesn't surprise me that the dolphins can't find guys open against them. To be. Lighting's no to I thought we'd see a little too as as little as the dolphins offense was doing early in this game but no need that was never warming up nothing. I was just going to say. But the Patriots don't have to worry about Cam Newton's health long term because they have nothing invested in him. Right. They can allow him to take a beating. No they're going to try to win these games and they're going to see and they're going to hope some young guys. You know step up chase a good game. They're using this Guy John Williams who was a second round pick the covered site ends this year he covered Gaseke. A lot better than than they did a year ago with John It felt very twenty twenty though I mean everything felt weird about this game including after the game it's like the Patriots tweet out. Will conduct forever with with a CAM throwing up the X. I'm like the Patriots sending this out to me is just like what is happening right? Well what I thought you were going to talk about the skirmish the at midfield after the game. Dolphins appear player appeared to tempt to rip off the chain of Cam Newton. So spicy after the Game Kim. Not. So bland this year now, he had to be carried away by his teammates and his coaches were stopping them apparently yes. As someone tried to move the chain, someone tried to do a keep leave like chains hatch on them. Would was. Thing was he premium as West would say he was doing all the things. He had a huge pining Schmo, he was loving it. He was loving and AS Roma pointed out a few times. He did some advanced things where he changed the play in that worked in a few times he didn't at all and they had these terrible place. But man he was celebrating just cam always does he had that big touchdown run where he took a big hit and I mean, you could see the huge smile on his face as he's dive in for the pylon I mean that's that's that's the SUI is. Good my home gonNA sustain that level of abuse every week because that seems like a lot of workload for an old man. Thirty one year old man battle. He's actually a forty, seven year old body but you know he's thirty one biologically I think it's fair to question whether this is a sustainable championship model but I'm just looking for fun. GimMe Gimme right by the way that's in the Mixon. Cameras and bridge, CAM's not the new Tom Brady. The new Tom Brady handed down the line when they leverage a first round pick that's high and they go and they get the next hope. But for now, CAM is the guy and It's going to be a little bit like the quarterback version of DeMarco Murray his last year in Dallas I would just say that sometimes it's sometimes it's beautiful to drive over a nice bridge get a new view I mean bridge is not always a bad thing. This will be a bridge to nowhere, but it will still it's still nice I. Mean, it's Weighing. Comedy, hundred somewhere. Give me at ten or eleven wins. A division title with a lot of fun on the way forget about it. That's not nowhere. That's living. I think that's all employ. Agree I agree. All right. Let's keep moving. At the thirty yard line, let's see if he doesn't factory Ford. Russell. Fourth down and five years Format Roche is not going to lay it up over the top he's got. He's got it. Touch arrowed. Hawks. Four down and five Ross takes the snap stands. Like a patient mad at weights fourteen gets open for six thirty, eight yards holy smoke. You guys are covering tk metcalf with one man forget about it. He beat some. You know shout out the Steve Rival there for. Kiro because. Did have a moment just now whereas completely deflated by the state of the world everything taken from US including people being yet these games to celebrate and vehemence together. But that call was so filled with joy and realness. And it came from such a sincere place in a back. We'll let you go. Gods. And now on back rival let Russ Cook. Showing what he can do when given the chance to talk. Through four touchdown passes leading the seahawks three, Thirty, eight, twenty, five, win over the Falcons in Atlanta mark. Thank Brian Schottenheimer finally seeing the light a new kind of seahawks attack arrive well. We've got a small sample size to to draw a conclusion from they ran the ball twenty times. That he has seen the light and I think that there's probably. Internal pressure as well to. Turn Russell Wilson from the start. After the kind of money they're paying him and totally responded it was a completely pristine ever I Russell Wilson and The idea that he would be a step down from the MVP performance. We saw last year not right now I mean I think that this is a very effective offense. If I told you that the Falcons that Matt Ryan would throw for four hundred fifty yards, multiple touchdowns with nine completions. Two three different receivers I would think the Falcons would be in control of this game at some point it just simply wasn't the case they weren't they weren't. Terrible by any stretch of the imagination education but Seattle to me moved away from the feed Chris Carson and fill in the blank other running back thirty seven times and have Russell Wilson do special things for the last six and a half minutes of the game where you're forced to suddenly get frisky down the field I. mean they attack from the start and I think if you're a seahawks fan that's waited for this, you're GONNA get more. The Falcons are just going to get incrementally worse on defense for every year I'm alive. Well they're off to a good start dead quit. I'll just stay there in Dame Clinton Post game press conference is where he said today we're pissed we're pissed and it's almost like he's trying to convince everyone they're pissed and I'm sure I'm sure he's pissed defensive coaches you know is teams not playing well but. It's almost like he knows that everyone thinks it's groundhog day he's been feeling the groundhog day to these slow starts is seasons always as many doesn't have any great solution for when I'd say you're. Supposed to turn it around like how. Do you think is going to be the guy who's going to turn it around I. Thought Fowler was a nice signing, but I mean he's not going to do it by himself. The I must note that Jamal Adams. Fits very well into Seattle's defense. He was all over the place. You can say that mark because that was that was waiting to see you know I wanted to know how he'd fit but Bobby Wagner who this is not breaking news was sensational and Jamal. Adams just right away. Provided pressure he caused chaos in the pocket he was all over the place just the way that you'd expect them to be and I think it took a little bit of the Concern over how much they spent on them if you're going to get this player week after week I, I think it's like I know it's week one but I I really do if if this approach in the first half of the seahawks through it, eighteen times in the rain at five and so that's a great indication because it's the first half it's obviously close the come out. So pass if this really means that they are gonna be more past abby. Look Watch out I think that's a huge unlocking of their potential. Our friend Bill Billy Barnwell Kinda pointed this out with Andy Reid go for it on fourth down on his own. An last year like indy reads always one of the most conservative guys on fourth down and he had some luck with it in the Super Bowl last year, and now he's starting to go for four watch out for the chiefs. If they're suddenly actually taking advantage of the fourth down like the Ravens used to the Ravens n watch out for the Seahawks if they're pass for team in their leading Russ Cook to the fullest visibilities man they're dangerous. Watching breaking bad right now. So when people say let Russ Cook, it's it's a little weird for me. Also does anyone call bill barnwell belly barnwell because. That should be a thing. As the maybe his grandmother type of You know. Worth type. Call from the booth that type of vibe easy midwestern by Billy Barnwell I like the billy and I don't know if I've ever said it to his face I'd like to find out how he feels about the. Being called Billy as as. Made Stage adult. The last guy that called Bill Barnwell billy ended up underground. I I just WANNA get at thirty Lot of dead. Guy. Unless you call them, billy any other thoughts on this game I thought Todd Gurley for all the. You Know Todd Gurley. Essentially put them out. Put them out on a boat into the ocean talk you know one of the people saying that. You'd be like a funeral pyre. On One of those deals you know. Guys don't shoot fire arrows at my boat. I'm alive he gone. He ran my expectations very low and it's like, where are we gonNA be two months with with girly in his knees and stuff but I'm he ran he ran pretty well today I mean other players on the team thought that he looked like the old todd Gurley I don't know if he looked exactly like the old. Todd. Gurley. I mean that wasn't like the most off. That wasn't a huge sell by their mark. Beating out of the tunnel in a wheelchair. Because I don't. Like people are GonNa, go watch and be like sesame dot early looked awesome. That's not what I'm saying. It's just that the variance of what we could have gotten from Todd Gurley could have been a lot worse. He looked starts every take playing defense against possible. Well, you ever try being me on this podcast you gotta you gotTa Start on defense. All right. Let's let's keep moving under center has been Robinson the running back play fake meant you looks fires quarter of the end zone wide open stealing cold's going to walk into the end zone. Jacksonville jags have taken the lead with five fifty six to play the ball game. Frank Franci with the call W. Okay. The tank for rather. Not, so fast Gardner means you threw three touchdown passes including twenty, two yard or cold. In the fourth quarter the jags opened the season but beat the colts. Roosevelt's colts twenty seven twenty. Rosie has the colts in the super bowl winning it all kind of beat the jugs and we've seen some stop hitting out because the debts lost in the Patriots. Wes. US You're sky high on colts as well as ring week one what went wrong here. They were squandering sons, building blocks, they squandered the whole game. Wandered early squandered late and squandered the lead away they they doubled the total yardage of the Jaguars. They didn't punt a single time in this game. But they gave it away to Philip rivers interceptions naiman stuffed inside the five yard line on. Fourth. down. Rodrigue, Oh blankenship the rookie field goal kicker missed missed a kick. The Doyle had a crack back block that interrupted drive late in the game lot of a lot of mistakes and I was wondering if I'm a colts fan, how do I feel about this game? You lose to a team you should be that. That's no good. He Lose Marlon Mac probably for the year with an aquiles on the other hand nine Heinz you look at him and you couldn't ask for a quarterback more suited to bring out Naim hines skill sets. Jonathan Taylor. Undeniably looks electric with the ball in his hands and even though you don't have Marlin Mac John and Taylor is a bigger big play threat. You can already see that is incredibly talented. Philip rivers throws two interceptions on balls. Maybe you don't get intercepted early in his career when he's got more muscle on the ball, he's always going to give receiver a chance to make plays in fifty fifty situations and he got burned a couple of times today on that and he got burned because it looked like the colts plan was to attack. Jaguars rookie first rounder. CJ. Henderson who was the player of the game at Interception Three Pass breakups couple of big tackles right in front of the first down marker and key situations a really big game from him. I'm I want. This is one of the Games. I'M GONNA dial up pretty early on game pass just because it's so weird. 'cause you had one incompletion as you mentioned, I, mean they the is only add but. Less than three hundred yards in this game two, hundred, forty, one yards in this game and they found a way. To win it and then. All the young players you mentioned Paris Campbell. I don't think he said his name to they. He was their leading receiver. So it was like a lot of new colts It almost sounds like a chargers game though you. Know it looked. It looked like rivers had been in that offense for Tang Union he was doing things that he caught the Jaguars Defense off guard a few times he had tricks up his sleeve like you said, he had total confidence in Paris Campbell was throwing him the ball lot and key situations. I was really impressed with Philip rivers to me if I'm colts fan I think okay. He made a couple mistakes and he's not quite what it used to be strength. Wise. But he's got total commander this offense in these got enough talent here. That to get four, hundred, fifty yards like it almost feels like you should do that every week. I'd asked like if you're a concern colts fan and you your mind if these two teams played each other, the next nine weeks would indies record be in also I mean looking at Minhsiu Day and I I love it. But is there a element of fool's gold or does it only strengthen what you were meant shoe guy does it strengthen what you feel about you? Why would say the Cultural Kgo eight into in that ten game sample size they thoroughly out playing Jaguars today The Jaguars. Capitalized in. That's where I give him in show Menchu credit. He didn't ever go beyond himself, Jay? GRUDEN. Called a really good game. It was pretty conservative but he he played to the he called it to the scoreboard and Menchu played to the scoreboard when. They didn't take any chances when the games were close and he kept him in it and Menchu. Short passes inaccurate and. James Robinson the undrafted rookie first undrafted rookie to start running back in the NFL on opening day in thirty years. Look good. So they do have some semblance of a running game a ball control attack. I'm, not. GonNa you're not, GonNa look at this and think like Phil. Super. Bowl good. These nineteen to twenty because of situation and good decision making. Well Listen Philip. Rivers was famous for these losses and chargers land to let's be fantasy games where it's like narrow losses to a team that you shouldn't dance Garner with a couple with a couple of turnovers, Bob and listen West Watch the game I slept to watch it. But how many times did we read about these gains that involved rivers in San, Diego our La, and now the that seemed to follow them to Indianapolis. Well, I don't know if they waited ten in Jackson. It's fair. Game in Jacksonville since twenty fourteen the Jaguars own the colts snaky. Oh come on to make that point Dan, but I'm just thinking as a colts fan if this is this is the first I've seen out of rivers and on the spectrum of where he could have been washed up is one possibility and he did not look washed up in any way to me so. I did that he he can move this offense up and down the field almost that will. Especially after watching sixteen games of Jacoby perset, we like Jake brisket but he is not the most fun quarterback to watch rivers at least swings at around in his is got open so many possibilities. Staff do more things. Yeah. Let's keep moving. Shotgun formation snap to Murray in trouble steps up and runs to his right at a twenty cuts back to the left of the ten breaks a tackle of the five plenty right for the end zone touchdown. The Q. is your go after Rome you. Ron We'll be sounds like the incredible hulk now this. His voice as in the stadium. To Be Jesse the body. He's graduated from Jesse Ventura now halt COOLER EVERY YEAR We Love Ron, wealthy ktar with the call Kyle Murray threw for two hundred and thirty yards and a touchdown ran for ninety yards and another score back he was over one hundred and lost. One hundred yard game because of qb kneel downs at the end. But Anyway, the cardinals twenty, four to twenty win over the defending champion niners. At a smokey bowel bottom mark cliffe Kingsbury Steam Watch. Wiped out to fourth-quarter deficits. Got A big stop at the end of great start to the season for the garden. Yeah. I, mean our friend Jason Walther, a noted cardinals fan texted Danny texted us. Rather displeased and seeking other ways to feel good about his life at one point during the game. It was kind of faceless early on it was outside of a big catch and run touchdown by master. The just wasn't a lot happening, and then suddenly I really think it was Kyla. Murray's legs. In this is this is the threat that he brings and they know how to use them that way. Changed the game entirely and then there was a lot of hemming and hind over the Andrea. And the fact he didn't really work with Kyle. Murray. In the off season much at all very little time together and cameras fourteen catches one, hundred, fifty, one yards, and he had a touchdown. In right he did in the like he had touchdown that they brought back to the one which. A Kenyan drake touchdown. So all all washed out the same he looked good. There were plays where Hopkins and Murray were not on the same page. Early on but he really caught fire late and I just think this cardinals offense in two two in the from predictable nature they ran a ton of ten and eleven sets where you're just got a ton of wide outside that's spread it. Spreads out the defense and it's spread out the niners defense and probably made them a little bit uncomfortable. The bigger issue for the niners there was a scary looking injury to George Kitto and heat said basically he kinda. Jimmy G. through a pass high kill left up into the air and got taken down on his knee, and basically came back in the game never was really the same kind of just showed you. That I think he'll be. All right. When he's not in there. You really. Don't have a whole lot right now behind behind Mostert. You've got really wants you guys that can contribute and Jimmy G. A chance to go down and win this with a touchdown at the end and he you know the cardinals have a few pieces on defense. This one guy second year corner by Murphy made a great break-up on a pass that also Jimmy G. through to Trent Taylor and threw behind him a little bit on a key fourth and five. Arizona Sixteen the game came down to that these rose playing each other close Jimmy G. made a few bad throws in this game. I mean, he threw ten throws to his wide receivers. We've been talking about these wide receivers in. Figuring Okay Santa Hannigan scheme it up and I'm sure he he will. But. Only ten throws to your wide receivers for only a total of forty one yards show in its Kendrick born in Taylor. kill has to be dominating in your defense has to be dominating and just off the off the stats sheet to me it's shocking they had three. QB HITS mark off forty throws for Kyle Marie I know they throw a quick. Zona but that's not the forty niners defense were used to see. No, it just didn't look it didn't. It didn't carry over for the niners on either side of the ball I think they a healthy version of the team will be fine but you know I just would see you come away feeling exciting if you're a cardinal's fan because the stuff that you were anticipating and hoping showed up by the end of the game. Feels like a little bit of. reductive thinking going into the season tooks we knew that these wide receiver issues are real for the niners and there just seemed to be vibe like well George. GIDELL's amazing. So they'll funnel him and he'll get seven hundred targets you have I, guess the other dis, the other team on the other side of the field knows what's coming and that's a tough situation for kindle and you mentioned the kittle lower body issue. That's scary. Does make me think a little bit with him because he's known. As a tremendous blocker in addition to being a great playmaker that that was Gronk that was peak gronk and his body got beat up after awhile. Repeatedly because he was physical and always I hope that's not George Kettles future but he was banged up throughout last year and it sounds like it's happening again now. I. Think. That's a fair comparison for playing style both relentless after the catch and that's where a lot of injuries happen to. But I don't think you're GONNA change the way George will play so you just have to live with him being an injury risk is division windsor big early that's the thing i. know these Games were not taken as much as you normally would but it's it's still going to be the same division win that the fact that they got it done who knows maybe they'll be a crowd in Arizona by the time they can actually Play there. Again, I mean Kingsbury loves it. If you can have outrushing Kyle Shanahan I, mean these two offenses so different but they both want to run in cuyler. Murray, running for that much meant they ran for a hundred and eighty yards I mean that that is a recipe to win in Arizona. They. West. Head to the corner of main. Street and Lincoln Avenue in the West Side of Cincinnati. Mainstream Lincoln. It's just a guess. Right now. All right right nearby house. Committee. From the right hat. Pete Rose Way. and. It's no good. The pushed it wide right. The chargers are GONNA win a missed field goal. By Randy Bullock Our Andy. Ready bulk missed a thirty one yard field goal try with two seconds to play. Spoiling Joe Boroughs NFL debut and allowing the chargers to escape with a sixteen thirteen win at Paul Brown stadium that of course, by the way was. Our Buddy Matt Money Smith Voice. Of God for the around the NFL podcast. Joe Boroughs debut. Listen it wasn't. Wasn't rg three back in two thousand twelve. It wasn't just like incredible game that will never forget but he showed things he had a great touchdown scramble twenty three yards wasn't even scramble I. Think it was designed draw. And then he led the team down the field he was up and down throughout the four quarters, but then when he needed to get them. Into field goal position or scoring position he recovered from a bad interception Melvin Ingram picked him off on a shovel pass seat leave him down the field. He spots AJ Green in the corner front corner of the endzone hits them for the apparent game winning touchdown. Flag comes out offensive pass interference and AJ Green It was the right call. It wasn't maybe maybe wasn't. A No brainer but I understand why the flag was thrown So they bring out Randy and he pushes it right and immediately comes down some type of lower body injury himself. I don't know sometimes you wonder with kickers. This. This is a little bit convenient a out of thirty one yarder. Be Welcome in the kicker club with that kind of derision. Rarely isn't trying to get in the kicker club for many years. This is not going to help him anyway. So the chargers get the win good for them. They lost a lot of games like this last year. So it's good to see them get this win the tyrod Taylor era, I wish tyrod Taylor just like what's the thing from star? Wars. Mark Console gets frozen carbon. CARBONITE. carbon-free is, is that the reference so I guess. was frozen in carbonite. The perfect hard knocks quarterback because once the guy starts playing, he just Kinda puts me to sleep. And this offense wasn't doing much but the chargers get the win and the Bengals GonNa, Bangle and bungle they did I saw on kick borough go ahead. Mention kick never even came close. Out Twenty feet right. I mean that calf muscles, I, want it to be. But that thing better be up the bone to be missing a thirty, one yard or Kicking, twenty four kicks I think. What a way to have your guy here rookie quarterback looks like he's going to bring you back for the win. You lose the touchdown alleged you have the and kick you're. Doing sit. Off. Against we had a lock of the week and it was who? Critic, Leonard, swings, remotely me and. Me and Y ou. took. Painful I mean I felt the pain here just because I don't know I wanna Dzhabrailov start here. But if you're picking them as a lock, the bengals something a little different. Exactly. To me. It was like a gauntlet who can you pick like every team? You WanNa pick it's like owner. Pass the mirror test I. gotta go check. Greg. Test. Dealers within didn't feel right. It, felt fun to pick borough I don't think I was really competitive spirit highs. It didn't really kill me to lose a lock in the first game. Yeah it was. It's GonNa be a tough watch for the bengals fan deep within Chris, wesseling because borough the touchdown run was fun and the final drive showed some Moxie. But he also overthrew John Ross for a touchdown he overthrew agent. That Russia cats are relying more balls than did he? Okay let's just get. Well, he definitely Johnny Ryan. Well, I saw one. J. Green yes I saw one pass where he was scrambling around behind. Let's let's remember a very bad offensive line in my opinion, and he got hammered on a fourteen yard sack directly as a result of like incredible pressure from the chargers. But there was a pass through to mix in where he basically threw it behind him to mix and mixed obviously didn't catch it and had to run around scrambling jump on it to basically recover what was a fumble but then he had that touchdown run after and I guess like what more would you want from a guy who's never played NFL? Snap then to make good plays after a few bad ones I think it showed some resilience in you know I mean borough to me is exciting. He plays a terrible browns defense next Thursday night. So No, you may not be too far from a from another good outing. If I don't drive was very composed I mean that was that was a plus years fire that ball in their the negative is you you watch him and you see a little bit of Dante dimes in there and that is that you don't feel like he's got. A big arm in so. He's creative but you gotta you gotTa. That's where you need your mental stuff to catch up. That's tough as a rookie in your first game. It's like you you gotta be if you don't have a big arm. Be His legs and it's GonNa. Be Him creating some any the right in this game I mean, that's why I'm not. I know I had them in the in the playoffs as one of my. One of my props here. But this is why I love Anthony Lynn, the man but sometimes the game management decisions during the game he plays so close to the vest than I. Think he invites Games like the kicking fifty five yard field goals instead of going for it on fourth and to hate that they miss it. Of course, it sets them up and it's just it's not surprising that this team grinds it out against the bengals team. That's maybe a little shorter on talent. You know we are ten months away. From next summer. When we're being told that the game is slowing down for Joe Borough right and he sees the field so much better. It did I am not a name, your favorite quarterback expert Tom Hauser Dan Orlovsky. I'm not any of those guys, but it did seem like things are moving a little fast for the kid in the first game and of course it. Should know preseason games no real offseason program, and now you're in the game week WANNA gets very good charters pass rush I would say all things considered any deadly throws on the field and all that and he had a really bad turnover on the shoveled paths to Ingraham I'm still feeling very excited right now because he brings juice to the building. Think things are moving fast for him in large part because his tackles we're getting beat it also because it took him a while to go through his progressions and I thought he looked way more decisive as a runner than he did as a passer. He looked really good to me whenever he had to pull it down and Ronnie did it decisively and got where he wanted to get right in college like you'll learn that shovel pass yet I mean that's the type of thing you don't see in college a two, hundred, seventy pound Melvin. Ingram. You're running back and cats a pass. You don't expect. All right. Let's move on. I decided to isolate these two games and with Halloween coming up around the corner enter the haunted mansion of the around the NFL podcast. appropriate. Get your news now. The. Hell. A day. If you dare Jackson a throw on third down and touchdown Mark Andrews his second of the day. That was great. Back shoulder throw. Back to back touchdown drives for Lamar, Jackson Jerry Sandusky Infamy I a day Ho of WBAL WBAL. The call Lamar Jackson threw for two hundred, seventy five yards and three touchdowns in the ravens role to a thirty, eight to six win. Ruining the debut of Kevin Stefanski and his maiden voyage. Cleveland head coach Mark It appears that the browns weren't remotely close ready for defending. Division chance. Yeah. I think I like a lot of browns fans had concerned about this particular match being your week one draw and. You know it's funny. I tweeted out this video on Saturday about their opening drive last year against the titans where Baker Mayfield and the offense just marched down the field and you're thinking this is it. This is what we've been hearing about all summer and all these pieces are you know playing in concert and then Austin Seibert botched the? And like the game went totally downhill from here he missed his first pat again today and it kind of just reawoken horrid memories from a year ago i. kind of think if you're a browns fan, you gotta blow it you. Throat Bury The ball as they say, get rid of it and hope things improve. They look completely out of sync and a lot to do with who they were playing. The Ravens are I think one of the best teams in the League when they target a free agent, he comes in and he contributes right away Campbell. Right off the bat tip to pass, he knocked another one down late in the game, he had another tip that in turn into an early Baker Mayfield interception the browns never really got on track after that ever again. They have all these parts and they don't look like they do or the Ravens Lamar Jackson you know to me through the air played one of the better games who seen I think it was twenty, four, twenty five they just looked like they didn't. They didn't miss a beat and I think if you're a ravens fan everyone's saying there's no way to get back to fourteen and two. Okay. But if you play like this, you're going to be real close or here's the thing you're going to be a better team than you were last year I. Think they did a better job stopping the run the Patrick Queen. Made plays you know you know rookie young ravens skies don't take. They don't take four years to develop that happens quicker in Baltimore and they looked like they weren't listening any pieces I also think they played a pretty bad team so. The Ravens look when they played the Texans next time around. Yeah, this doesn't look good just at the box score mark it looks like. Baker Mayfield struggle the average less than five yards per attempt to the dreaded Gabbard Zone. Looks like he did some damage on the ground but Odell Beckham three for twenty two. Drops comeback. Yup Myles, Garrett I. Love You but you know. Very little production for myles. Garrett. Today and I just I you've got these names but they don't. They don't seem to make it happen here in these games. Goes guys have to play like superstars not decent starters they. Superstars. And by the way, I saw everybody getting on me on twitter about locking up the ravens but you know what I Speaking of haunted houses like everyone was just wanted to make Freddie kitchens the Boogeyman I just wanted to go out there and say before week one, let's see if that guy was really the only thing that's the problem in that building in Berea on the haunted, bury the the burial ground that the whole buildings built on and apparently that's not as you can't blame Freddie anymore because this team looked every bit as bad as it did with Freddie Kitchens, the head coach. But I will allow let me say this though people that were getting on me for not looking in the mirror I gotta be honest I didn't even look in the Mirror I was I didn't really have time we were busy on Thursday. Yeah for people who thought that maybe it's unfair to be locking up the Ravens in that situation I will make it up to everyone that's a listener by locking up a team that really doesn't need to be locked up in week two I'm just GonNa that's what I do. That's the deal does even in the scales if you really thought that I was a line but I am I'm taking this because there are a lot of people that thought the browns are going to be better and they were this post heights sleeper. I'M NOT GONNA give up on on because they got drubbed by the Ravens and probably proven wrong. But this is about as ugly as it gets. You manage to stop the Ravens on the ground I mean that was that that's the thing that stands out to me just looking at it. This was the worst game that the Ravens have had rushing the ball. I think Lamar Jackson took over as quarterback definitely worse than any game they had in all of two thousand nineteen. So actually, it didn't quite even though the score looks familiar world just a way that they got there is different I'm not I would just say that like you don't come away thinking. Deep concerns of right off to Moore's Ground Game I. think that this the way the game played out a little bit like mark. Andrews. was on fire. Lamar. Jackson was making great throws and Cleveland's GONNA banged up secondary and they were victimized for it's probably taking what defenses are going to give them which this year I mean look they were trying to stop the Ravens last year the running game, but I think defenses will sell out even more and Lamar is shown can take advantage. Browns are playing again at four days. Mark you excited. It's too soon I don't like I can I be honest I just like you know you're working you're working through a lot of stuff on the Sunday's like the days of me like pouting in the corner it's over you just gotTa move on like wake me up when they when they are entertained just be. Entertaining and they weren't it's a bad football and it's because you played a team that's been entertaining for twenty years and understands what being in the NFL means your football team wants to stand up and kick you in the butt stand in line buddy wait around the corner for everything else kicking us into. But the right exactly. It mattered a lot less than summer. All right I mark, you're not the only fan getting kicked in the butt. So to jets fans. Allen parts a quick one caught by. John. Brownlow. Makes the catch at the ten at the five cruises into the end zone touchdown buffalo John Brown a seventeen yard touchdown catch from Josh. Allen Steve That was too easy. Man Come on. Jon Murphy rubbing salt in the wound up in wjr in western New York Josh Allen through for more than three hundred yards for the first time in his career tally three scores through the air. And on the ground and a twenty seven to seventeen win over the jets and orchard. Park Allen also lost two fumbles and jets territory. Miss. John Brown on a Gimme touchdown toss but overall. Did his job. For Buffalo team that was superior. To the jets in every imaginable way. I don't know I don't even know like from a bill standpoint how much I can take from this game twenty seven seventeen was not really indicative of what was going on in this game the bills kept on kicking themselves, and tripping on their own feet. The Alan turnovers I mentioned they missed too short field goals even though the first one was probably actually good but the upright wasn't high enough. Maybe we have to keep sending those things hired the Sky I don't know. But so the jets were able to kind of hang around James, Jamison crowder caught a wide receiver screen and took about sixty yards. To, to deliver most of the jets offense, so this game could've easily been twenty or thirty, five, twenty or thirty points. Separating it. So I guess it's a moral victory for the jets but for the bills, you're better than the jets. That's all I. Know you're much better than the jets but there was enough kind of negative stuff in this game to where I want to see them against a better opponent and as for the jets. and. and. I'll say that Sam Darnold and we've heard it ad Nauseam at this point has a bad situation and potentially like the worst head coach in the League but he's got to play better he did not play well in this game and he didn't look comfortable we we read the fluff pieces in the during the summer about how us in year two of his system and he he was processing things quicker and more comfortable. He didn't look more comfortable against the bills granted it's a tough challenge in buffalo but he Didn't look more comfortable. He missed guys that were open. He made some boneheaded plays the kind of stuff that now in year three needs to start to go away. So again, small sample size of week one now is not the time to say, well, he'll never figure it out but as a jets span, you're like, oh, come on man. So couple of plays that he made it's like this can't happen anymore So jets are a mess. Jets are embarrassing maybe the worst team in the league bills good for you you WANNA know. I think the bills can take away just the way you start that game to come out and just you know exert your will on another NFL team that feels good and they're they're they're little bit more of a favourite that they've been around. They're expected to win this game. They were big favorites they their defense did a great job against the jets last year when they played and you come out and I saw one point, it was nineteen first downs to one. And it's just like, okay may maybe you let your foot off the gas a little bit but that's that's all you can hope to accomplish I think in week one in your right move on than to a tougher opponent in to. Dan. I ask you about there's all this hubbub about you know the Levian Bail Frank Gore. Both with six carries Levian bell six carries for fourteen yards and just what injured. Then journeys wasn't tracking that one bill who came into camp in the best shape of his life goes out wide splits out wide right and pops his hamstring and then Adam Gates in the coaching staff leave him in the game. And it sounds like he furthered injured the Hamstring Emek in and Adam Gates. It's actually kind of ironic because over the summer you'll remember. Lady on Bell Blasting Gates on social media for saying that he had a hamstring. Injury that he said didn't exist will now in the controversy, this week will be that he actually did have a hamstring injury, but the coaches didn't recognize it. So that's a fun little bit of. subplot for the beat writers to sink their teeth into So we'll see how long he's out if he misses next week but who knows at point? It doesn't matter I mean lady on bells probably progress stopper where the jets are I'd like to see the Michael P Ryan who's their third round pick get an act get into action, but he is injured with an ankle. So hopefully, he'll get back in the game, but there isn't much to excite about the only real good news the came out of this and the only thing for the jets Ah Summer storyline that actually made it from the summer to the game was markets may the safety that the second round pick the same year that Josh? Are? What's his name or forgotten Jamal Adams tomorrow tomorrow. was in the same draft as the first round pick he took Adams's role and had five tackles, two sacks, two pass breakups in a fumble. So that's good. Everything else bed. All right. Let's. Let's get the hell out of this place on his L.. Ski Keeps Getting Darker It's very twenty twenty, but we started this show in. Light out in those slowly coming into the dark et turn on the lights at one point. I want to say there's there's nowhere to go but up but I don't know if I believe that. So let's Go. Back. Trubisky to wind up the right side for Miller. Older catch. A touchdown touchdown pairs almost like Thanksgiving Day. Near the two yard line and over the shoulder throw I'd beauty by Mitchell trubisky Anthony Miller about to get to the end zone. Did you hear the sounds like. stunned amazement by, Tom. Fe Or. And Jeff Johnny AC wbz with the call Mitchell trubisky. Yeah. You heard that right match through a perfect twenty seven yard. Go ahead touchdown pass Anthony Miller with one fifty, four to play. And then Lions Rookie D. Andrea Swift drop the would be game winning touchdown in the final seconds in the bears twenty seven, twenty, three win at Ford Field. March. It's only dawned on me now today. That you're the browns fan decided to make the lions. Eighteen. Why do you yourself? I'd just exploring New Territories of total darkness. Yeah I think a Lotta Lions fans. There's a group that have glommed onto the lions and a lot of lions fans that are immediate reaction was no don't do this number one. We don't WanNa hear your little national reporter hype train business because we don't buy into it and secondly trust me this won't go well for you and I mean it was a very matt. Patricia era lions loss like there was just no excuse to lose the game the way they did. It, the fact that you can point to one team that Mitch Trubisky has consistently bedeviled over and over it's the lions. That's not a great resume builder for Patricia Either and I you know I, it was a tale of. The one team. Right, they are I mean by trubisky right. From Bears Angle I think that if you if you pause the game at halftime, you'd be thinking everyone is GonNa Clean House. At some point because it was a tale of two halves trubisky was was pretty ineffective in the first half and you it's it's a committee of running backs. It's Torri Cohen. It's Cordeiro Patterson. It's David Montgomery none of them really dominant. What happened in the second half was you know first of all Detroit is banged up at cornerback and they were dealing with injuries and it showed and trubisky started caught fire down the stretch mates big throws the Anthony Miller throw was beautiful I give them credit like if you look at what he did in the fourth quarter. I believe he was seven for nine with two touchdowns in a race to twenty three to six deficit. So I think it's a week to week proposition with Mitch Trubisky at a lot of people tweeting at me after a couple bear's comments like do you bring in foles halftime? You just is it can organise quickly. You kept that conversation quiet for another week. I don't love this bears team I. Think the defense may be a little overrated to, but they made some plays down the stretch and if you're alliance Fan, it's just another one of these games where you do not. It just did not add up and Stafford, look pretty good I mean they had that killer dropped by Andre in the end zone that. A rich. Do we have that the lion's call that because that is one of the worst drops I can remember that is the game five seconds. What's what's it? Binds. From the bear sixteen down four eleven seconds to go. The he's GonNa work out of the gone. Bears three men back on that goal. Stafford's got it. Then rushed for Chicago Stafford. taught. Swift. Dropped it. It was a touchdown in his hand. No? No. Kevin. Patch Buddy. You deserve. Better there's nothing like it was perfect. It was perfect. Throw Stafford spotted his running back with his back to the pylon. He was going to catch it fall in for the touchdown game over it would've been four seconds to play there in the lead celebration tragedy averted instead it is the worst stomach punch. You could really imagine a week one game and there is nothing like it in our. Major Team Sports really any sport because there's no other regular season that means so much that that that that drop is like it's one sixteenth season that could be the difference between getting fired or not. That could be different playoff it certainly the difference of having a miserable week or feeling great that you escaped with a comeback victory put another game winning comeback on Matthew Stafford's. Statute but no, like instead, it's like all doom and gloom and you can look at the fact that Oh by the way we lost Justin Coleman their slot corner during the game they lost Desmond True Font during the game Jamie Collins is being a knucklehead again and gets kicked out of the game during it and it's just like. Lions got a lion I guess it just means. It's so meaningful that one drop it's just crazy. There's no other sport quite like that. How do you sleep if if you're a rookie like the Andrea Swift, how do you sleep tonight? I don't know if it's possible. You have to. Wipe. Teams has a better chance to be relevant like on Thanksgiving I think the lions play on Thanksgiving but yeah line. On thanksgiving I still think the lions like I don't know maybe I'm just blind idiot at this point, but I just feel like they have something but it Today to well the yeah. Here's the problem because the Andrea Swift has been heard for weeks like in and you can't trust Kerryon. Johnson. Was Adrian Peterson. had like ninety three yards and ran pretty well, and it's like suddenly you're the team featuring Adrian Peterson running back, which is not a bad thing, but it was not the plan. I also I. Don't I I saw a tweet, some questionable map Patricia decisions down the stretch that that haunt them, and that's all these guys come back and things get better but Patricia as your coach. This feels like I mean, no one was complaining when he was like, you know guy with pencil behind his ear winning Patriots, Super Bowl rings but. You know there's a whole different deal here and in lions just don't seem to have changed or grown much right. There's a little bit complaining one year when they came in thirty first and yards allowed and they still made it to the Super Bowl. I. Because I'm a miserable bastard and my team's terrible I wanted I want more sadness. I meant to hear the randy bullock. Sad call out of Cincinnati Let's hear that to Ricky. Snap is good. The catch is wide, right? Algiers hold onto the lead with two seconds to go and folic is hurt. If. I. Can't be happy. No, one can look it's hurt. I don't mean the. Rams, wes bullock had cramps. Like before the kid ever happened to him before we said it never happened a bright one. The case was about to happen. Randy bullock got cramps. Cramps are. Quite often. nerve related like you're nervous and you can get cramps that can can absolutely be something that the mental. So that doesn't that doesn't make you feel better as a as a bengals fan. All right. Let's keep moving. Back at the raiders getting I'm not sure it God I don't think i. Got Raiders Moretti Alex. Brent. Musburger with the call there. Hey, are lv Joe Brady's the new offense coordinator at Carolina and calls a hand off. To fullback. Alex Barma. A fourth and inches at midfield he stopped at the line with one eleven to play. It's the play of the game and the raiders hold on for thirty four thirty win over the Panthers Charlotte. Gregg. Who the hell's out armone and why the hell is in. Christian McCaffrey getting the ball. Game it was a tough one too because he just felt like neither one of these defenses could stop the other i. kind of felt whoever's going to get the ball last is GonNa win the panthers just got the ball back after the after Derek Carr brought the raiders up the field to take the lead back I mean this was a fun offensive game. He didn't know it was going to happen I. Think it's a fun one to fire up on game pass. There were not a lot of stops I. think There were twelve scoring drive six stops both teams looked very well coached offense. And I just didn't expect a defensive player to make the play the game. In this case, it was Cleveland Farrell and the way McCaffrey was playing the wait teddy. was playing just in terms of his movement man you put him on the move and it just gives a lot of problems I think for the Raiders Defense Teddy. Perfect game but I think arm looked pretty good and he and he moved well and he made some place creek creatively so that the play call was It was wild and it was such a just kind of like a wet far ending to what was otherwise a really exciting game. I. Think both teams have some good things feel he'll after this. LemMe Mart. Dreaming for and week. One Specifically. Wherever You're not I mean the the raiders. Lost Trent. Brown early. So that's a big big problem for them. They're left tackle, and then they lost Samyong who replaced them right after that. So they're on a third stringer and. And they still went up and down the field like Kinda just. steamrolling I think the panthers were their size Josh Jacobs look so good. He just dominated the ball in. Their offense looked like a good one did when it was really singing last year and They did enough to win, but it very easily could have been a bad rate. If the raiders defense is this battle year, it's not gonNA matter. They're going to have a similar year to year. They had a year ago I. Mean Jon Gruden Compared Josh Jacobs to Walter Payton. For, his performance today, and the fact that he simply refused to come off the field and wanted the whole game put on his back. So I mean that that you have these pieces that give you a lot of hope for. And I will I will say that, Joe, Brady I mean is one of the more respected coaches around and I know he's new to the NFL but like he did incredible stuff and Lsu and got. I know, but it's going to be. One way but I think. The Carolina coming out and doing what they did on offense you're going to be one of the better surprises today. Yeah. That's the thing collecting law the and We can't shift in talking head thing where like we write off this? Very talented. No Marcus career is over I'm sorry. I didn't realize you decide that but I will I will get out of the way Alex Armoire. Alex armoire probably could would you in half of one instant in the lake an arm wrestling match in your arm would become off with it. He's definitely strong a fullback You just don't want to get on armrest. Mark to your point to give your Matt Rule, an his boy Joe. Brady some love that was my takeaway throughout the game was while this team looks like it's been together for a while it's not like, Hey, we need a while to warm up. They look like a very professional offense. They've they expose some bad secondary play for the raiders but everything looked like it was on time. You know they use more and Samuel Robbie Anderson? Like it looked like a free frisky on offense. We kind of. Don't. Teddy there s you know. Get, job. Maybe one of those development. Could have been the jets OC. Go ahead West give us a salient football point. On Sunday night football. To Sunday night football. going. To be. Michael Gallon. Ramsey flags down pass interference offense number. Ten Yard Penalty Back never too late. Wake Up. Oh. Michael Gallup. Almost, the hero. Now he's got a zero, but he did get offense a pass interference call. Jalen Ramsey and coverage in it basically buried the cowboys in their night football opener. Allowing the Rams to escape with a twenty to seventeen win. In the opening of S-O-F-I. The medium or part. Wow rate start for the rams. Greg Rosenthal. Made. A solid strong fundamentally. With game right out of the gate. Got Up. You'll be feeling very good. If you're a Ram fan right about now. Yeah. My. My daughter. Else GonNa be excited when she wakes up and finds up this final score because they looked like the old rams in the sense that their coaches I think we're giving them a big time advantage like a lot of the plays that work for them in the first half were screens were quick throws by Jared Goff were plays where like they basically were putting the receiver on a platter for Golf and the defensive changes with the Brandon Staley. This offseason taken over for Wade Phillips seemed to make a pretty big difference to. Down the stretch, the fact that they let their defense, go try to win the game instead of going forward on fourth down thought that was questionable but that call bail the map. I come out of this game I I remember it was about a year ago at the end of September when Kellen Moore shot to the. Leader Board position for assistant coach to the year type roles and I I don't know what's going on with Kalomo right now. But there there was a sequence in the fourth quarter it's twenty to seventeen. It is third and six at the L. A. Fourteen, they run Zeke up the middle for three yards. Okay. It's fourth and three from the La Eleven CD lamb catches the past he's tackled short of the sticks. Drive over. Do you not kick the field goal there. I appreciate the they'll go there have to I think that's never really recovered from that in a gate it son in some games, the pace of the game, the way that it was forming itself you'd say, no, we're going to be aggressive. WE'RE GONNA go for it. Not, this game I have it wrong with that. If it's thirty, four, thirty, one in that spot. Sure the go it but that game that was a tight closely fought game and I'm not that worried about Dallas because I really do think the rams played excellent football both sides and they were in their building and all that. But yeah, I was really surprised they went for it. That is kind of the new age of football now that you're the odd say going for it on fourth down something that's going to pay off more than. It's not but in that spot when you had a chance to tie it up at twenty that really surprised me and it was just really a tough tough night for the Dallas offense, they had three points on six drives in the second half, and that comes I. Think we kind of predicted this back on the preview show like just white and watch after all this breathless hype about the cavs offense that they go and lay an egg. Thirteen point they score seventeen. That's not good enough. I liked I liked the way Zeke Elliott ran the ball I still think they have awesome weapons Jalen Ramsey and the Ram Stevens played excellent and I think they'll recover. But this is kind of a better way to start the season in. Greg to the point that you've made a lot like here we go again with the cowboys all the hype and then well a big. Another wet fart. I am worried about I mean, I don't know what team had a worse week one. They just lost their tight end Blake Jar. They loved for the season with the Tornados mark and I. Could Give You two teams. There's a couple of. But there that's fair. But they didn't lose two key starters to massive injuries late in vander else vendors also broke his collarbone. So there's a lot of stuff where you talk about. L. K. it's only weak one. Well, that's not just only week one I don't know when late invader s now is going on a few years where he has these neck injuries collarbone is a little different. We don't know how long that's going to be. Darwin is a huge loss and you're only as good sometimes as your worst starter and they had undrafted rookie terrence steel plane right tackle. He's he's scheduled to start the next few weeks to 'cause they're missing. lyell collins at right tackle, and at the end of the game that's who the rams were targeting and yeah the cowboys are talented enough to get over it. But when you're coming in with all these things to be excited about that is a pretty big letdown of a week one and in those injuries or something, you can't really get back. I mean, I think I think Dallas lost to a playoff team. So I want to hit the panic button there but. It's just disappointing and I will say one positive I, think Alden Smith, who was looking back I wrote. An at and tape study film at and film room I don't even remember this being a series two, thousand twelve. Talking about. Right. That he just looked like this next version of Charles Haley or something, and he's barely played for the past half decade and he comes in tonight and I thought there were a couple of moments where you thought this feels like I know what's going to go to Alex Smith but Alden Smith looks like a comeback player of the year type guy to me in his own, right? You know I was great. I. You said the cowboys lost to a playoff team that's new if that's how people are GonNa be calling and treating the rams. Division going into this year well, they just have a good early. See it right now it seems better than last year for the rams they seem to have found some fresh four tonight before tonight that was not the general vibe and I think that this game really does quickly change the narrative around them because they looked refreshed a reenergized I know West head been made a point this summer to talk about how he was interested to see how Sean mcvay operated an offense not shackled with a over the hill todd Gurley and they were different on offense and Chris. Collins worth made note of it repeatedly on the NBC telecast how quickly they're getting the ball out of jared, Goff's hands that was a issue for them last. Year, protecting Jared Goff with an older offensive line that was beat up. Well, now the line is in better condition rob Hammerstein's back. Everybody seems to be on their game right now on top of it mcvay he's a smart coach is now saying, okay, we know what Jared Goff's weaknesses are. Let's try to get away from those weaknesses as much as we can. With with the bootlegs and out of his hands quick with the outs screens and the types of passes that weren't really a part of their attack a few years ago when they were bombing down the field with Brandin cooks and company. So there was a different looking rams offense, but it looked good including the running the running backs without played very well in this game. And they go ahead. Todd. Gurley now. Don't you think that you know less need when he came on our show in June or something, and we quizzed them about come on which one of these guys is. GonNa be the lead dog well, I think it's week to week and they seem very married to the idea of committee. There's also a sequence where jared goff throws an interception. Guy Hitting. And that's why I'm not too worried about the Ramsey call being the question of. That was a turnover where the refs completely missed the call and so those are two massive 'cause at both Kinda even other all. The affirmation oldest with clobbered golf in the face, which is a ten yard penalty and should have been a I. Damn. Right I'm saying that Gough nearly threw a second pick on the following sequence, which we'd be sane. We'd be singing a little bit of a different tune for the rams but I I'm with you I think like you wanted to see something the rams got stale last year I don't know how else to put it just seemed to run out of gas and I don't have that feeling about them right now. So yeah, maybe I didn't see them I didn't pick them as a playoff team, but I think We all we didn't think they were GONNA go six and ten and they seemed like in the mix and a very high quality start. It was one of the Cleaner Games on the Los Angeles side of all the football I watched today they didn't seem to have some of the issues others teams did both teams look pretty good? I mean offensively, the cowboys just couldn't finish at least in the first half. They looked good enough I mean collins were said he was stunned at the quality of the teams. I found that to be true. On balance today with the quality of play was better there weren't as many crazy catastrophic injuries felt like a normal day of injuries. You're GONNA have some I'm not saying you don't need a preseason, but you don't like need your really don't like. Maybe, the money and the young wrestle with this more than any person in the entire World Greg. It's all you think about whether we need preseason, it'll be it'll be an easier August for us I'm just the yes I'm just the self While they're people will say the sky is falling for the cowboys and I can. Picture the hot yakkers tomorrow Gross saying the end is near Dallas and yes greg you made a good point that the injuries it's a bad situation late vandereycken man he's one of those guys who just cannot stay healthy but I will say this I wish I could lock it up at early predicted earlier that I need to go a little more Anini for my week to lock. Atlanta Falcons have something nasty come their way when they come to Dallas and. I just put it on the board that's thirty five boys plus for the young boys. Thank you. I still feel they're going to be okay. You probably right is ironic though that they wanted to get rid of Jason. Garrett I mean I I wanted to get rid of Jason Garrett and you're placing with McCarthy who did the whole PR campaign is mark. Likes to point out how he's into the analytics now and the fourth down go for is what got them a little bit here I. Don't blame it though I don't blame them though either I think they knew they were going for it. That was it was a to play sequence and I think you also while you can question him going for it put it somewhat on the players there's five or six guys in the box you're Zeke Elliot and you're the cowboys and you're their offensive line you get three yards on a draw that was probably not a bad to play golf and then you throw throw it to yards. Agree so Dunno, the players didn't do their jobs either. But you know this I know this podcast very well and Mike McCarthy was under no one situation is killing. The offense is great. Kellyn. Mortgage the credit of the offense thanks Mike McCarthy gets the blame that's how the show works. Well, I would say this though Mike McCarthy in general I would have been ready to jump all over him. He handed the offense over to Kellen Moore when everyone expected him not to do anything close to that maybe not even retain Kelly Moore. So I'm not here to kill McCarthy I just thought. That sequence to me felt diabolical. You gotta get out of there tying the game come on on on the I'm with you on that. All right. Bat Is the end of the first. Of many. Flagship programs around the NFL podcasts in the twenty twenty season week. One Sunday is in the books a reminder that you could check out this show. If you want on Youtube where Ricky Hollywood is going to do her thing and put that online and we will be back with our next podcast episode on Tuesday where we will lab recap the to Monday night football games and then do a little a look back at week one and look ahead to week to the wheel goes round and round. Were spending we're spending. Laura, this is Dan hand the signing up for. The. Mailman. Who by the way he went to bed news Yeah the old boss. Sizzler. Ricki Hall. Filters. Thanks.

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The Rush Limbaugh Show Podcast - Jul 21 2020

The Rush Limbaugh Show

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The Rush Limbaugh Show Podcast - Jul 21 2020

"Welcome to today's edition of the rush. LIMBAUGH show podcast well. It's great to see you on the rush. Limbaugh show. Let me just. Adjusted. KNOB in a dial, and here we go, it's. At. Let me be candid with you. I am somewhere in the state of Florida. I'm not in my home state of Pennsylvania today. I'm somewhere in the state of Florida and I WANNA. Thank Mick and Dave and the Florida engineering team for putting this together and connecting me to Mike and Mojo in New York at. The rush limbaugh show, and then both Snerdley is at southern, command. Also somewhere in Florida. It's good to see today. The numbers eight, hundred, two, eight to twenty, eight, eighty, two I'll be in for America's Anchorman today and tomorrow. As you know, it's treatment week and rush. Explain this, so there's no. There's no need to be upset that there's a guest host here because he thoroughly explained it yesterday, we have so much to cover. There's so much happening in I was in a meeting with Bo earlier. And about an hour ago, it was on the phone and we were talking about that. We had several stories that. Changed on my way into the studio today. By the way it is great to be in Florida I. Have Family here. My parents live here and a this is like my favorite governor I, think I think now? Governor to Santa's to Florida is my favorite, my least favorite. In there in the running cuomo. Governor Wolf of my home state of Pennsylvania, but you know widmer's up there and governor. newsome's up there. There's so many crappy governors. Anyway our guest today. Speaking of that part of the country. Out in Portland Oregon I, don't know if you're watching it but Portland. Oregon is doing its best to become Seattle Washington. They want to become. A Third World something third. World country anarchy. But Anna dictatorship. It something crazy. This is what's happening in so many of these blue cities. Around the country and in Portland Oregon I, don't know if you know this, but. Acting Deputy Homeland Security Secretary Cancun Cinelli. Deployed federal law enforcement personnel to Portland Oregon over the July fourth weekend. Some. People are aware that some people are not it is true. And they are still there. And acting deputy director of DHL. Ken Coochie Nellie will be here this hour. Explain in depth why they are their what their mission is. And how a lot of the leaders in Portland Oregon especially on the left? are still in bed today crying. There's still a lot of people have said about this. I don't understand. And maybe you can shed light on it when you call in today because we're going to be taken a lot of calls, eight hundred to eighty to twenty, eight, eighty, two, because one of the greatest ways to find out what the heck's going on in this country right now is certainly not. CNN, it's just having limbaugh listeners call into the show. And tell us what's happening like. When you look at what's going on in Chicago and Detroit and Los Angeles and today we're gonNA focus on Portland Oregon because for some reason, these leftist leaders do not want. President trump's help I. don't understand that it's a legitimate. Quandary, why wouldn't you want? Assistance the president has offered his assistance for enduring every crisis since he was sworn in whether it was a hurricane whether it was a flood whether it was coverted. Boy We're GONNA talk about covert the scam. DEMOC is at all new levels. In fact coming up, I have a have this great story from CNN. And what they do is they take a little bit of the truth. They Take Spurs maybe twenty to twenty seven percent of the truth. Okay, and that's just a model. That's just a truth projection that I'm using for C. N.. They take twenty seven percent, or so they put it in the story, and then they wrap a bunch of bs around it, and that keeps people terrified. And when people are scared, what do they do? They vote for liberals. So. We're going to be talking about that coming up then we have, of course. Cancun Elliot's our guest, but I wanNA kick something off. That's really this is really got a lot of people concerned and I certainly want to hear. From you around different parts of the country, I know there's issues going on from. ATLANTA, Georgia to New York City to Portland Oregon. As far out as California Montana, there are issues with law enforcement interacting with. Some of the things that are taking today and in areas where the left is running. Things where you have a leftist mayor left to city council. Where you have giant companies corporate structure getting on board with the communist aspect of BLM. You have dedicated men and women of law enforcement, and they are leaving and we I heard about this months ago. It started almost as a little trickle. And then there were two hundred, and then three hundred from New York City, and then four hundred, and now we're getting reports from all over the country. Most recently I saw a report and I I'm going to share this with you because the woman's name is Tara Morgan. and. She works for ABC six in Columbus Ohio. And the reason. This jumped out at me because it was real news because when I go. You know what I'm talking about when you're flipping through the dial in the United CNN. Let's SEE MSNBC. What's going on over here? Your, what is it? It's ridiculous. It's either scare tactic tactics or panic, or you see a story and you go. Why didn't they mention that and this? Newswoman sat down with a sergeant who cop for twenty six years? And because of the last four weeks, and the lack of support from his chief from people in the government from the mayor. He and many others are leaving the force. Let me play that for you. What was the tipping point? Past four weeks has been difficult to watch. You know when these riots started. I watched my fellow officers, picking rocks and bottles. And, what's this? Go On for three or four weeks with little to no recourse Taylor an Air Force veteran, who served in the first Gulf War had many roles within COPD from frontline supervisor to vice child abuse detective. Probably spent four years investigating allegations of physical abuse, many of which were children of color. They were times when I went home in tears. Because I couldn't helped. Your mayor and your city council to stand up on their podium everyday cosell racists. Excusable a news release dated May twenty-ninth from Mayor Ginther. Office stated racism exists in the Columbus Division of police that Chief Quinlan was working to eliminate it from the ranks Jalen Benton member of Quinlan's new advisory panel, suggested in a statement to us the removal or resignation of Quinlan. If the culture of the police and the policies that hold racism and racist behaviour doesn't change. It's absolutely false. Come out and do a ride along with us. Hang out with us. Get to know us can find out what our Swat guys do. Helicopter guys your canines or horses to. Find Out, but they're not interested in that. Doesn't serve their political agenda. Your thoughts on Ginther. I! Don't know the man personally, but I have zero respect for him. How. Do you view Chief Quinlan? Deep Down but. He's on probation right now. He's going to do everything to mayor tells them to do. Taylor says he wasn't the only officer who felt this way. So He's, he talked about and the reason I wanted to play such a long cut audio cut is. I have heard this story personally from law enforcement people that I know personally in in Pennsylvania and other states. I've seen it on my message. Boards I've seen it. On facebook at Ken Matthews which you feel free to follow me. In fact, I have the sound bite on there, and if it's not on there I'll put it on their. The reason I like. This is because this. Coverage was very candid. It's very in depth interview. It's about fifteen minutes and he talks about. You can see his sense of anguish. Over the fact that he is being called what the left calls everyone that disagrees with them at some point in the argument. You're called a racist, no matter what it is. And you can see his angst. Over this. These men and women of all colors. And and Belief systems are in law enforcement. We have one of the most diverse law enforcement communities just under a million people. In the United States and ever since the Blm thing started where actually it started long before that it started under. President Obama the differences president. Obama ran his mouth lot. He didn't do much. Of anything whether it's prison, reform or shaken up the law, enforcement community, or whatever it may be, but there's so many people that are dedicated that play by the rules that are compassionate, and there's so many men and women. That are trained and in their heart. They don't see color and you could feel that with him. Because he goes on to say wanted to stay for thirty years and other things. But what do you do when you go to your chief, or you go to the mayor, or you go to the City Council of Your Police Department when you're getting hit in the head with bricks, and they're lighting the Court House on fire and people are telling you just hold on a sec, just all we got it. We got to be politically correct about this. Eight, hundred, two eight to. Twenty, eight, eighty two. There's something else. That's going on around the country and we're going to talk about this, and this is another thing that you. As the informed. Rush limbaugh listener can weigh in on. And that is this push by people like George Soros, and he comes to the top of my mind because George, Soros helped put the. The District Attorney of Philadelphia in office. He also put the district attorney. Of Saint Louis in office. Did you know that yes? George Soros has his fingers in. People he wants to get. This level of person because the district attorney's have so much power. To change laws that have been legislated. So the assembly makes a law now, the district attorney can in their particular region large. URBAN LEFTIST LIBERAL RUN CITIES PHILADELPHIA. New. York City Newark. And around the country the reason I bring this up. Remember the couple in Saint Louis. They came out the. They yesterday they filed charges. What is today Tuesday? Yesterday filed charges against Mark in Patricia mccloskey. and. They now though the governor, I don't know if you saw this, but the governor says he's GonNa. Make sure that they don't have to take any more heat for this. But they wanted to charge them. With wrongdoing. So they came out on their, they never left their own property, but they were on their own property. People were approaching. Their people were already broke into their gated community threatened to burn. Their house threatened to kill their dog. But apparently threatening to burn your house down and kill your dog. If you're part of A. Protest! That's okay, so apparently. That's all right. I hope I don't have to put that into my training now. In the MY. Legal, carry training around the various states. Wouldn't that be a pain if you had to open it up and do what? Politicians do politicians go through a whole list of politically correct things because so many politicians are gutless, so they go through this whole list. Well I would say that, but then I'd be. That would be offensive. What about if I? Say This? What about if I say this? I'm shocked that they didn't just start shooting now. They shouldn't have it would have been wrong. But I think this leftist movement. That's taking place now. And cloaking itself with liberal causes that they talk about on the view. because. That's a good stupid platform to dump your propaganda on. I think this is just pushing people to see how far. People are willing to either back down or take a stand. So I think I think for example a month from now I think the next time someone breaks into a private community. They're gonNA, be up on your lawn. They're going to be banging on your window. They might even be inside your house, but they're pushing and pushing because the majority of Americans do not want this. And I think this. Is that secret community? Which is vast. That has had it. With leftist. This ridiculousness they've had it. They've had it with the media. They've had it with the wrong Kovic. Numbers they've had it with people saying we're GONNA. Burn Your House to the ground. So I think you're gonNA, see this great awakening in the next couple of months. Hopefully I can matthews in for rush, limbaugh. The number is eight, hundred, two eight to twenty, eight eighty to your calls coming up. I have to say I decided to drive. To Florida where I am broadcasting live from my name's Ken Matthews on the rush. Limbaugh show thrilled to be here I'm in an undisclosed location guarded by alligators. Eight hundred, two, eight to twenty, eight, eighty, two Russia's This is a treatment week. He's hoping to be back Friday, but if not, Monday, you know the drill, and then and then he's just going to be rocking it until the next treatment. And people are starting to weigh in on this law enforcement thing and I think the reason. I played the sound bite of Sergeant Trent Taylor's it. It was heartbreaking and heart warming at the same time that. Through the prism of leftist bias, trumpeting news media and in some cases. Media, that doesn't favor law, enforcement or they favor. Leftist protesters or rioters over law enforcement people do not get the right. They don't get a full enough perspective on law enforcement. It's just like with the military. If you don't have military in your family or you're not military. If. You're justice civilian like me. But and if you don't make that effort. To learn more about the military you don't get. That angle on the military so I'm driving down here. I decided to drive because I don't want to fly anymore. I'm fed up with line. and. LIMBAUGH's plane I don't even know where he keeps it, so I can't fly. And I didn't want to do the mask thing and I didn't want someone. smelly feet in the back of my head so I decided to drive, and I loved it because. The FAM-. Everybody in my family's working right now, the kids and my wife. They're all working. So and I'm sure they like the fact that I'm taking a vacation like this. And I drove down, and I was just able to really focus on everything that was around me and I saw so many trump signs, I mean. I saw trump signs in Virginia. I don't know if I should say that because now. You know the Biden. People are going to go looking for them. Tear them down because that's usually what well that's what the Hillary people did. I don't know how many videos people send be in Pennsylvania and from around the country. On Social Media Look. This is my sign being stolen. This is my car being key. This is my sticker being scraped off, but I tell you there's a lot of. There's a lot of pent up frustration about how things are being. mismanaged. And we'll. Be discussing more of that regarding Portland. Oregon with the acting Deputy Homeland Security Secretary Cancun Cinelli. Because you know Portland Oregon is one of those hot spots where you have a fool for mayor. Much like Chicago. Now now that I think about it much like. New York and Atlanta and Well, you know the list and things are getting out of hand the number one job. Of in elected representative. Even above representing you is to protect you not literally, but to design a structure and implement policies that protect the citizens of whatever your township your state your. Your. Country whatever it may be. And a lot of liberal. Progressive leaders have failed miserably and the fact that seventy people were shot in the last seventy two hours in Chicago. I think a dozen died. And the best that. Mayor could come up with. I, forgot her name. I think it's like what is it? What is her name Mike? Is it light lightfoot light? Lightsaber whatever anyway the best she could come up with is we need to get better gun laws? That's it. That's the best you can do. In the middle of a COVA PANDEMIC MS thirteen being in your city. Black on crime reaching all time highs, the best at mayor can say. Where you need to get better gun laws I don't think so. I want to point out something that happened three weeks ago. Where were you three weeks ago? Think about this about three weeks ago. There is a story that appeared in Sky News. And I want to share this story with you and you tell me if you heard it. That's coming up next. Thanks as always for tuning in eight, hundred, two eight to twenty, eight eighty to the rush limbaugh show on the EIB network. My name is Ken. From Hidden Studio Location in Florida and it's my pleasure to welcome acting deputy homeland secretary director Cancun Elliott the show. Welcome sir. Kuenz better. There you go. I didn't even notice that. WOW, APPARENT CANS! That's that's disaster. Look out so. I know. What's that? Like a caucus meeting, they can call us here there. You go there, you go I just I wanted to adjust your level here so okay now you can hear me okay. I can hear you. This situation in Portland Oregon. I just saw the. The mainstream news media pummeling. Kelly mcilhenny, who probably has more guts than most people in Congress right now, and she was able to explain so much of what federal. Agents and officers are doing in Portland, but can you bring us up to speed when they got there and what their role is in Portland Oregon right now. So the there's a little known outfit called the Federal Protective. That's part of the Department of Homeland Security and they protect federal buildings and property. If you've gone into federal buildings, you've walked by them on in and out, or they're contractors, and they have been protecting the federal buildings in Portland like the Hatfield courthouse since it was built in nineteen, ninety seven, so this is not a new mission for sits a federally chartered mission meaning it's in federal law. And when we got intelligence that there was going to be more targeting violence directed at our federal facilities around the July. Fourth weekend we advanced four officers from other parts of the Department of Homeland Security to support. At the S. protecting those facilities now mind you. This is a city that had seen thirty five or forty straight days of violence. No Single Day without violence and their own mayor and political leadership has has really kissed up to the criminals and and urge violence forward, so that's a circumstance that that our folks were stepping into, and in fact, intelligence was correct, and there have been more directed attacks federal facilities there and we've been staffed up to handle them and made arrests. Done the best we can to protect those facilities and all in federal legal authority every bit of it. Now I had heard of that there were some. People. Being deputy deputize is that correct, because I it can can the DHS or branches of the deputy deputize local law enforcement to to help you out. So, there's no. Cross designation. which is probably what you mean by the deputy. PHOEBE officers ice officers from other parts of the Department of Homeland Security are being cross designated as f PS officers as well so they're acting under Federal Protective Service Authority Because again there's the statutes that require us to protect these facilities and people in and around them, and so that sort of deputies ation is taking place, but not deputies of local law enforcement I against any means okay I think what what really probably freaked out a lot of Democrats especially this close to the election. They heard that ice was there. And they thought again. Some of their some of their voters were in danger of being removed from the country, so that probably shook them up a little bit what? Years ago, a nice facility was the subject of another assault like this in Portland. And the Mayor of Portland publicly said I'm drawing police protection. That says leasing. and. Take the flag. To. Take the floor Colorado. Aurora, I got it. Yeah. I'm losing track of how many facilities are being attacked by leftist, and how many liberal mayors don't care why? What is the take in Washington on mayors in particular, but some of these governors that are reluctant to say, help us out. What do you think's behind this? Well they're they're more concerned about their radical and violent left wing political base than they are about the peace and security of their communities, and and that's about their own perceived self interest. That's all it is. It isn't for the benefit of the community's residents the businesses. On the people who are being hurt. lifetimes of work being destroyed, and they don't care about any of that as long as they are. On the politically correct side of the current blowing winds, and unfortunately people blowing those winds are very violent criminals and terrorists, but that's where the left wing mayors are. And so many times these organizations like Blm for example inside. They're internal leadership. They have people that are openly communist and have openly braced those tactics and I think this is not getting out enough through the media. I don't think people realize this is not friendly. Protesters showing up for a bake sale. They're coming to destroy. US. No it isn't I would urge your listeners to watch the press conference. Superb press conference by the Superintendent of the Chicago Police Department Dave Brown gave a an incredible display. They put it on video and they showed you how a an apparently peaceful protests willie a mask for violent attacks on officers injured forty nine of his officers and and he shows the evolution over the course of over the course of really fifteen minutes of of. Presentation does a spectacular job. In these are people who start with banners, and we'll get there. Holding the banners of PVC pipes that an sharpened to use against the officers, and they they have aerial footage showing people changing their clothes, so they can hide their identity. And dumping bags of projectiles to then immediately started to be thrown at officers, which is a felony, assault and officer that way, so and and it's dangerous. Of course the officer and that was their point, and they hospitalized the number of the damage bones lacerations head injuries the whole works in Chicago and. and. It was not a peaceful protest. It was it was a violent. Mob Salt. Masked initially as a peaceful protest, and and the nobody law, enforcement or the Department Homeland Security that I've encountered questions our commitment to protecting lawful first amendment protesters, but we're not fools. As as a Superintendent Brown said this morning. We're going to now have to end every protest. That is purportedly peaceful with riot gear because shot have our guys caught without the right equipment to deal with violence that these instigators are conducting and when they do it intentionally. Attacking enforcement, there's a name for that Ken. It's terrorism. That's exactly Harris. This is a page ironically right out of Isis, and if you're just tuning in to the rush, limbaugh show I'm speaking with acting deputy homeland. Security Secretary Cancun Nellie something that i. find so well, it's it's definitely fighting dirty. It is terrorism because the police are sent there with instructions to protect the protesters, so they go there peacefully. With with the mission to make sure that the protesters have a safe area. And can express themselves according to the Second Amendment, and then they get baited into like. Yeah I'm sorry Second Amendment First. Amendment I I sorry losing them all. Yeah well Second Amendment. Becomes pretty important, in situ. I meant the the first of this the assembly. is so valuable and so many Pulitzer basic tar mess, and they're passionate about it, and they show up wanting to help it. That's the thing that so. Maddening about black lives matter, there's so many people on the initial side of. Let's reform the police. Let's get justice for people that are treated wrongly, and then now they're hijacking this entire. This entire movement. Your point about the commitment of the author's I'll tell you a quick very quick story a week ago in Portland marshals detained seized a guy who had been assaulting law enforcement officers Definitely in having a seizure, medical seizure heart rate up to one eighty just a and and so they called in our CV p.. Medical team who immediately rushed in? They cleared the crowd away from the guy to treat him. So this is a person who moments before had been assaulting law enforcement officers. they get hold of them and immediately start providing him medical help to keep him alive, and they did they succeed. That's the end of long. Country! And I think it's so. It's so crucial deputy director that. Police and law, enforcement and federal agents in dhs know that the majority of Americans regardless of party are the support them regardless of what the mainstream media is saying that there's just not a lot of people out there, saying if we can only get rid of law and order, and I think this is where the left is overplayed its hand. Yes I'm hoping so you know Ronald Reagan always thought that they see. The wisdom of America resided with Americans and stuff like this I really count on it, 'cause you're certainly not getting from the mainstream media. You don't whole whole swath of the political spectrum are really backing violent protesters. I mean look at what one of the senators from Oregon is said, and the mayor of course is off the Charts Speaker Pelosi using Nazi illusions. Can you imagine if you or I did that on this radio program? What would how we I would hope? that. I know we have that conversation like once a week. If if a talk radio show, hosts spoke like Alexandro. Casio, cortes or any number of mayors, governors or leftist senators. We'd be out of a job. Back. Right, yes, we would. Well. You know the old saying. If they didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any well there. You go any any big things on the horizon that you can share with the rush. limbaugh audience before we wrap up here. We don't share operational things ahead of time, but the president has been very clear that we're gonNA remain aggressive. We here's the whole metal government, which is the O. J. D. H. F. in advancing law enforcement where it's needed, we can do that co-operatively as you will see I'm sure in coming days in various parts of the country and we can do it where we're only pursuing our mission like in Portland and we always of course prefer to be cooperative with state and local law enforcement. It's one of the sad developments recently has been how the has politicized law enforcement. You know it used to just. Be We all do our jobs. We help each other. Do do our jobs, but they have turned it into political game and lives are at stake, and and livelihoods are at risk, and they don't care if people die, and if livelihoods ruined but people on the right, do and I just I just really appreciate. Our officers as well as the local state and locals I. State AG in Virginia I have so much respect for the people who put on that badge every day. really insane between you and me and evil, and you're seeing it on the streets of this country. Very much so here and they're standing in the breach, and we all of them a debt gratitude. Thank you for calling into the show acting deputy homeland security. Secretary Ken Cuccia Nellie, thank you, sir, be safe and keep up the good fight. We'll be right back on the rush. Limbaugh show. The rush limbaugh show. My name is Ken Matthews Somewhere in day in studio. Bunker in Florida by the way and thanks again to Mike and Mojo up in New York and. The rest of the team West Palm and of course. Some folks that helped me set up today. A Dave and Mick here in an undisclosed location there are gators nearby, not not athletes, actual alligators, eight, hundred, two, eight to twenty, eight, eighty two. Let's get some phone calls going David in Albany New York. How are you, sir, welcome to the rush, limbaugh show doing well, thank you. Can I appreciate it? Actually I reside myself in an undisclosed location in central? Florida but I happened. Happened today to be up in a police state of New, York in Albany and I thought I'd give you a call because the interesting thing about what I've watched with. The left over. The years is being played out yet again because they're very good at it. And that is this they use the power of accusation. They use the power accusation. It does not have to be true. It does not have to be Judicata it. But if they come out and use the power of accusation, it's like ringing the Pavlovian Bell and all the Little Mtpa God's drool. Right on cue so what Pelosi come out and do the other day. She talked about the Gestapo type of tactics federal agents. Showing up in Portland and doing these mysterious arrests, and all these kinds of things, you just have the deputy director on, and anyone can find out what these men and women are actually doing, but for them the accusation works just as well just the same the accusation by this the city. D. H. E. in Saint Louis using the power of accusation knowing full well, the law actually supported the couple who had their guns out and. And thankfully, the district attorney for the state file to dismiss charges immediately because of how ridiculous this is, but again the power accusation by the left is then used by their power of controlling the media which they do, we know that they control most of that so now the power accusation gets magnified, and again they bring their Pavlovian Bell and their dogs drool right on kill. What do they do? They go out and destroy. David, you nailed it. As far as the power of accusation, the there is no vetting. We know that in the news media. You cannot go to any one source in the news media anymore and get a complete story. There's no vetting. If someone hates trump, all you have to do is say. Trump kicked a puppy today, which by the way he did not don. Lemon in case you're listening. He did not kick a puppy, but all you have to do is say. Trump kicked a puppy today and all the major news outlets will put allegations of puppy kicking the White House, and they'll run with it, and then just like what David said all the the nitwits. Who now get to wear masks man because it's mandatory. That's the thing that I know. I just jumped over to Kobe for a second I'm going to get to that. Kovic story, but. This whole concept of mandatory mask. The you have to realize terrorists were already ready wearing masks. So now we've made millions of healthy people wear masks into the bank. Whose idea was this. We have a lot more coming up in your calls next. It's the rush limbaugh show. My Name's Ken Matthews. This is a story I started a while ago and I. wanted to share with you the. Coronavirus story came out three weeks ago. The University of Oxford's Jenner Institute, in the Oxford Vaccine. Group began developing a covert nineteen vaccine in January of this year. Okay three weeks ago, this article came out three weeks ago. Did you hear about it? But with the number of UK virus cases dropping every day, there may not be enough. People left to test. On it that have cove it according to the institute's director, he said it's a race against the virus. Disappearing were trying to find a vaccine. He said at the Jenner Institute, but the virus is disappearing too fast. You didn't hear that three weeks ago, did you? Know. What did you hear? In mainstream media Oh my God. There's another spike run for your life and remember we may not be able to vote. Or protest two things. You WanNa protest think about that. Think about the level of misreporting on covid nineteen. Back with your. Thank you so much for tuning into the rush. Limbaugh show it. It's always an honor and a pleasure to be here guest hosting Mr. I'll be here tomorrow as well. It is treatment week for Elrushbo, but America's anchorman will be back before you know it. and. I have the pleasure of being. In a state with one of my favorite governors today governor. Desanta Florida actually somewhere in Florida in undisclosed location. And I just saw a couple of things just to bring up the my home state where I normally am in Pennsylvania. You probably know that several people in our assembly are trying to impeach. Our Governor Governor Tom. Wolf because of his level of competence and Well outright lying. I mean I don't WanNa. Call him a liar, but he's Aligarh. But to Sanchez kicking some butt, but every now and then every now and then. Crazy stuff happens in Florida as well. And Oh, by the way a shout out to Mississippi, folks. Last night. Oh this, I'm scattered rain. 'cause of my brother just texted me from another undisclosed state, and he said major say hello to mom and dad yeah. I will I will and see I. Don't know if. Other wants me to say hello to mom and dad for him because he doesn't want to call them. And I and I happened to be on a broadcast facility where he can take care of it, or if you just want to say a load of them like I would be in Florida, Nazi loaded them. This is where Mississippi comes in last night. See My parents refused to have anything that's not made were produced or processed or grown or anything not in America. So they're obsessed with it, and that's good. A lot of people are like that and now's the time. To, really share that obsession because we're learning the hard way about being too dependent on. Other countries China in particular the last night. We had Mississippi Catfish for, dinner. And it was it was raised in Mississippi Freshwater, and then it was processed by Americans, and then we aided in Florida. Yes on on on a plate made in China. No I. Don't know where the plate was made. I'm just saying that that was some good catfish now the reason I bring that up a lot of people don't know. A large percentage of seafood is processed in China. It starts over here, but it's cheaper. To Send it to China, process it and bring it back. We're not kidding. Look it up. You'll be shocked just like when we found out at the beginning of the COVID Whatever debacle. Vat so much of our pharmaceuticals. Necessary pharmaceuticals are produced in China or other places. Canada, not so bad, obviously, China, you can't trust them. You can't trust the Chinese Communist government. You can't and for you people that are. Not, that swift like folks MSNBC. I didn't say you can't trust the Chinese people. I said you can't trust the Chinese Communist government. We cannot trust government whose goal is to eliminate. Capitalism Freedom Religion Women's rights gay rights. We can't trust that got. How do you trust that government and I? It just boggles my mind how the news media exalts. Communist countries when they do anything. Oh, my Gosh China did such a great job. Did you see that Art Gallery? That's great. They built it right on a mass grave. See these people. They're not even using their brains. Anyway. Did you know and I know. Rush brought this up. Either yesterday was yesterday or Friday her and bring it up. But he brought up some of the actual numbers because what you're not getting. In truth, be told you're getting very few real numbers from anyone. Because when the numbers by the way all the numbers are decreasing as far as Cova. Death and Kovin hospitalizations. And something else. They're leaving out of the equation severity of cases. Much less severe. Some people are having it. They don't even know they have it. Oh, my Gosh I. You know I had a sore throat that weekend I was wondering what was wrong, and now they feel fine. These are parts of the equation. No one's telling you but something that ticked me off since the very beginning the scam dynamic and this is. CDC numbers. Less than two percent. Of Cove nineteen deaths. People Twenty, four or younger. Now the reason I bring. That up is just to give you an example. I'm going to pull a number from. Let's see last week I'm going to pull a number from last week. Age Five to fourteen years old. Deaths from Kovic related CDC. Fourteen people. In the last six months now that is a tragedy. And nobody is minimizing that. So again if you're. If, you're freaking out and you're a middle, aged white liberal man and you're like he doesn't even care about that. Don't be an idiot. Okay? Five to fourteen years old. Fourteen people unfortunately lost her life. Now and that was over the last six months. Why did we close all the schools? Why did we close all the schools when age? First grade through high school. Had the healthiest recovery, healthiest, survival and lowest death rate. In fact, the people that would been and I'm not gonNA use the word immune. I'm saying least affected. We penalize the worst. And then the people that were the most. Vulnerable to this. And this is according to the CDC. Seventy five to eighty four years old. And then eighty five and older. Seventy, five to eighty four years old, thirty, two thousand lost their lives. And this is as of two weeks ago and eighty five years and older. As of two weeks ago, forty thousand. Lost their lives so right there. You've got a total of let me see. Common core math would put it at a billion, but real math would be about seventy two thousand. Give or take now. I think the total defray the total death. In this country right now is by about one hundred. And what is it one hundred and twenty five thousand give or take? I could be a little bit often. I Apologize Because Week old plus two weeks old, but I'm trying to call attention to the fact that it was done. The opposite. And because I'm a doctor. And you're not a doctor. Perhaps you're not allowed to talk about it. But anybody with common sense which is something that the Democrat Party lost years ago and most people in academia don't have. A, they would look at this and say well. Wait a second. Why didn't we just protect? High Risk Vulnerable people with Co. Morbidity and pre existing conditions. Let's say. Let's start at fifty years old, and and then forty nine and under. They can continue with extra precaution of being safe sanitary better hygiene. Hand sanitizer gloves. Mask in certain situations. So basically I'm saying this. Don't close the school. Just have the vulnerable teacher and there are plenty older teachers do wonderful work. Maybe they're vulnerable. Maybe they have diabetes. Maybe they have an upper respiratory issue. Will the that is the person that should stay at home? That is the person that should be monitored. That is the person that teach on the video, but you don't need to get. Why do you? Why did they shut down all the colleges in the? High schools and the middle schools, and then they did something that drove me crazy. And I've been wanting to get off this off my chest. Why would you quarantine a healthy population? It's never been done in history. No one's ever quarantined a healthy population. They didn't do that in, Europe. They didn't do it during the black plague. You don't have the black plague, so you're going to have to be quarantined. Well, what about those other? Twenty eight thousand people in the village. Well whatever but you need to stay home. But I've got a wagon to push or I've got a company to run. Nobody asks these questions and what happened when you ask these questions. The same thing that always happens when you ask. Leftist! Establishment types or people that have an agenda. You're told you're a science. Does denier or you don't care about the children? That's like the most popular line that should be a bumper sticker for the Democrats. Everybody else doesn't care about the children except me. That should be a Democrat bumper sticker. Look if you cared about the children. You'd support the cops. Because a heck of a lot more cops care about the children than politicians do so you need to get your priorities straight? Whether you're wearing a mask or not? Eight, hundred, two, eight, two, thousand, eight, eighty, two. Let's grab some more calls. Oh yes, before I forget you know what instead of tape Bob I'm GONNA. Come to you next, but before I go anywhere. And I don't I don't want to get upset among your piece. If you want your family safe, so does rush the mayor of real, Ville. Has this solution? Real home security prepares for the worst. and. Let's define that somebody breaking into your home and stealing your stuff. Now most home break INS. Occur when you're not at home, so the odds something happening the doing home break in. are smaller than you think they really. Don't break in when you're there folks when they think you're there. That's why most break ins happened at a daytime when people more likely to be away. We didn't want to confront you. 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Eight, hundred, two, eight to twenty, eight, eighty, two, my name's Ken Matthews in for rush, limbaugh and let's go to Bob in East Detroit. Thank you for patiently holding Bob. You're on the rush, limbaugh show. Can I love you? Thank you very I. Mean God. Bless you for taking in from Russia I? Mean you do heck of a job? Thank you. And you WanNa know the silent majority. I have four friends. One is in Texas. One is in Dearborn. One is in Mount Clemens. And I'm in East Detroit. We help and we are GONNA kick there, but. We don't have to do with violence. We don't. Agree, I agree. We just have to motivate people and get them to the polls, because and I think this why I mean. What do you think Bob is this? Why left melting down because they're seeing so? Many of their tactics fail year after year. You can only be so stupid. Simple. And if you listen Democrats, they're so stupid. They just it's. If my dad was still alive God. Bless his soul he. was able to vote for trump I wielded been wheelchair and everything. And he said he's going to be the best president we ever had. Oh, God bless him. He was a World War Two vet. Okay now. I mean. It's. Do, okay don't you worry about it well I. I admire your optimism I'm I'm on the same page with you. Thank you for calling. Bob I appreciate it, Bob, calling from east. Detroit and I agree. I do believe that and I definitely agree that there's a lot of stupid people on the left and. As you were saying that Bob I was thinking about another story. I wanted to cover today that tell me this isn't the goofiest thing you've heard. This is not. a Saturday night live sketch. By the way they're not funny anymore. They used to be, but then they were blinded by. Hey, did you notice that? Did you notice how funny late night television and Saturday night live, and some of these shows used to be? Before they became blinded by trump eight. And Now! Jimmy Kimmel Jimmy Fallon they're doing opening monologues. On policy. But they don't know policy, nor do they know history? Some of them actually new comedy, but they decided to put that on the back burner. Because, it's all hands on deck to the trump. They thought making fun of him would work. They thought making fun of US would work. They said they thought we'll just call them deplorables. Well, we just wear hats. Say deplorables, and that's how we will. Do you remember when they said. Who was Rashid Rasheeda? Said? Let's go up there and impeach the remember that. She actually said it. Her kids were there and the constituents that doesn't faze the constituents and kids at a democratic event most of the time. And We we started selling not we but conservatives because I have one. We started selling shirts and said Hey, don't forget to re the effort so. The Democrats don't understand this and I think. One of the reasons is and David pointed out. There is a lack of. Intellect. In people like Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi and I mean that with the utmost respect I. Wish them a happy retirement as well. But they don't have a sense of humor. There's not a sense of humor. And that's why when you go on that sewer as rush calls it twitter or when you go anywhere, you can't make any jokes. Because, if a liberal or progressive or leftist even gets a little off balance or a little offended. My God you're you're on your way to hr or there's a lawsuit, but this has gotta be the stupidest thing I've heard all week. John Casick. Is, going to be speaking at the, he's going to be speaking at the Democrat National Convention. So the Democrats have run out of losers on the left now. They're stuck now. They're starting to steal. Are Losers from the right? What's next now? They're going after dumb Republicans. It's crazy. John case now. You may remember John Casick. He's very famous. He Won Ohio. Once. You may remember him. I think they should bring. They should have like an entire parade. Of People that are bitter. And have lost. I think we should get All the consultants on most of the networks. Because most of the winning consultants right now are out there winning things. The consultants at don't win. Many of them end up on the networks. Contributing, but they should have like maybe Al Gore should by. Have you seen Al Gore lately? Wow! He's a changed man. It's amazing. What almost a billion dollars will do for you. Eight hundred, two eight to twenty, eight, eighty, two is the number I'm Ken Matthews in for America's anchorman still to come, I? Don't know if you saw this put. Florida's largest teacher's Union is suing. Governor to Santa's and the State of Florida because they want to reopen the schools. Yes, you heard that correctly. Oh. Hello there. I'm in the studio. Somewhere in Florida guest hosting for rush limbaugh very exciting. And I'm actually going over a sound bite. Of A journalist, calling the lovely and talented. Kelly mcenaney, the press secretary, the president of the United States lying. Be Word yes. Yes I just heard it and I know it's from today, because not that I was paying attention, but I knew exactly what Kelly was wearing. In her brief and she's smart to do that. She smart to keep the colors rotating. Like the other day was read, and then she hot on that Sky Blue, and then that very sunny. kind of summary thing not that I'm keeping track. Just do this to keep the fact straight today. She's wearing a black number. With a little cross necklace, that's how I knew that she was called the today by someone in the news media now don't worry. That person will not be in trouble because that person is a leftist and leftists. Get to do whatever they want. On television on radio anywhere they want. They can say whatever they want. You could go on the view, and if you agree with what be Goldberg, you can say whatever you want. But. If YOU'RE AT CISCO BE CAREFUL. If you post all lives matter. Because somewhat. May consider. Racist. But if you WANNA talk about killing and pillaging and. Kelly's this in the president's that didn't so and so ought to be killed for treason and like Nancy. Pelosi is David pointed out. He called from East Detroit. He was talking about was if David or New York I anyway. One of the calls today they pointed out the fact that Nancy is gone. She's Gone Down with the Nazi card. The racist, sexist Islamophobic xenophobic cards have all failed so now Nancy has gone to her backup quiver. Entries pulled out the Arrow. You're just a Nazi. I, most people don't know history, so they buy into. These quote Nazi tactics. That are being attached to whatever anytime. A police officer does anything. That someone doesn't like. That's usually another fallback position. So, that's why the sweeping innuendos and accusations made, and maybe later. If we have time I'll replay that sound by. Of A very. He was very passionate about it. Sergeant Trent Taylor who has left the Columbus Ohio Police Department after twenty six years, and he said one of the most disturbing things about the last four weeks is constantly being called a racist when he and his fellow officers, the men and women are not any brought up these wonderful examples how attached to you is to the various communities that he is hired to protect how much? Pain he saw, but how much joy he got when he could do things. Good for the community, and then to be called racist because. And this is me now I'm paraphrasing because his leaders are too lazy or too politically correct to defend him and truly investigate, it's easier. Just to cave in. And this is happening too often, especially in progressively run cities. I didn't think that was leadership. I thought when someone accused anyone of anything. Your job is a leader was to say hold on a second. Let's investigate? Let's get the facts all the facts. And see what this is all about, but that's not happening a lot with the cops. People are just turning on the police. Because there's so many morons in the news in academia that are not showing you all the facts. You're seeing part of the video. You're hearing part of the sound clip. And one of the reasons I played that sound bite at the top of the hour today on the rush. Limbaugh show from ABC, six in Columbus giving them recognition because they actually had. News. That was factual and they didn't just chop it up. It's so easy to take a thirteen minute interview and chop it into segments, so the person says what you want, which is usually vote for Joe Biden and that is not what we're trying to accomplish. Eight hundred two eight to. Twenty eight eighty two. If you'd like to join the rush, limbaugh show on air. Let's go to don in Fort, Collins. Colorado welcome to the show on. Ken Good Morning certainly best regards to you and bears rush. Thank you. A couple of things that I just wanted to pose questions. If you use the old adage, follow the money. Then it seems like it. All of the roots of all of this violence. You're gonNA find George Soros and his operation, so my question is. Why hasn't George Soros? been arrested and charged with treason at the very least sedition for trying to overthrow the federal government of the United States of America, as he's done in many other countries. Why isn't he being called to test? Second question would be. Able to see this kind of violence and they mayors. Governors. Do not allow law enforcement to do their job. Are we going to see? Vigilante Justice. Wow, those are those are great questions, and the the Soros question is asked probably once a month by most commonsensical people like yourself and I think George Soros because he has a dual citizenship. and. He has been able to hide behind so many Americans. That's how he's. He's being able to squiggle out of this. He's hiding behind all these. Foundations and institutes and organizations health organizations. Black lives, matter is a wonderful example. So he's just not giving money to one person. He's giving money to a cause and then people like Barack Obama or Hillary or people that work at the various think, tanks or institutes can say well. We want to thank George Soros for this wonderful donation that helps the children, so people really never know where the money goes. We thought we can follow the money so far. Don You, follow it and then. It gets dispersed and that's the problem. That's what's with them. We think the money's going to police reform, but apparently some of its paying for bricks. And you know that's a real issue. And what was your other question vigilantism? Yeah if this continues where the police are being stopped from mental to stand down. From doing their job, are we going to see the the population? Get tired of this and begin exercising their own type of justice. Well I. Dad is a tough question in twenty twenty. I think what happens during the election will determine everything I pray every day that we never see that level of violence I pray that we always stay. Within the in the rails of the justice system and follow procedure and. Do that. But if somebody tries to hijack the election. I what's going to happen because you? You probably know just by asking that question. A lot of people are fed up, but most of us that are fed up. Are Law abiding citizens and it's the most frustrating thing to be fed up when you love the country and you love the law and the Constitution, and you abide by it. Because we're not the people that go out and throw the brick through the window, or we're not the person that drives the car off the road and lights it on fire. So I'm praying. that. After trump's reelected things settled down a bit and people. Talk to each other I'm hoping that the the handful of people in the Democrat Party leadership that that have functioning brains left I hope they will talk sense into people after the election and say look. You got to back this down this hating the police threatening people on the right attacking private businesses 'cause you're going to destroy this country from within which is exactly what our enemies want, but. And that's the only thing that keeps vigilantism in my opinion at bay. Is that perhaps you people like myself? My neighbors people in my family were law abiding citizens. We're pro-constitution pro second amendment, but we're abiding citizens, and as much as we WANNA go out. How many times have you heard? Someone needs to teach those rioters a lesson. Well, unfortunately, the constitution dictates it should not be us. We follow the constitution, and I just believe that the majority of Americans embrace the Constitution and they embraced the founding principles of this country and I think I think the folks on the left have about five to seven months left before they really get on our nerves. So after trump is elected reelected I'm hoping we see another one hundred and fifty conservative judges put in play, and hopefully it's never gonna come to that, but now I don't think it's going to happen, but. If Nancy, Pelosi becomes president. And their statues of Ruth Bader, Ginsburg replacing Lincoln. I think you're GONNA. See a whole different ball of wax. Eight, hundred, two, eight to twenty, eight, eighty, two. I'm Ken Matthews in for rush, limbaugh. You're tuned to the rush. LIMBAUGH show on the EIB network. My name is Ken Matthews. Always. Excited to be guest hosting for rush, it's always an honor I'll be back tomorrow and the icing on the cake is. I'll be going to the beach. After I get off the air. Because I'm actually close enough to the beach. In one of these underground bunkers, they have been these broadcast bunkers. No, it's not the southern command. Someone's already several people have already said. Are you at the southern? Command and I said no I'm not I. Don't have clearance for the Southern Command. The last time it was at the southern. Command was just to visit with rush and I had to be. It was like Oh. I had to be a bag over my head, and then I had to. There was a certain code and a password and. I still don't know where it is. I just know in the background I heard a lion roaring, so I if it was near a zoo or if that was both Snerdley. Is Very disorienting. Eight hundred to eighty to twenty, eight, eighty, two coming up. We will be talking about a story. That's breaking right now. And I just pulled this off American military news to Chinese state hackers have been charged with stealing hundreds of US secrets over a ten year campaign. You gotta Ask Yourself. Where do they find the time between the Chinese flu? You know and all the cover-ups Wuhan. And you know modifying viruses. Where do they find the time to hack our secrets where we're gonNA talk about that, but I do want to get some more calls. Joe In South Oregon Hi Joe you're on the rush limbaugh show. Morning Ken, how are You doing today I? AM feeling good all under sir. Thank you. Well those the Russian. Our prayers something everything with him. Always and now Here in southern Oregon. My Oregon live. We don't really recognize governor. she's gone way too far Are you some of the people who? Are, you some of the people that want to leave. I just read an article that some people in. Yes, we want to go to the other state. There is a petition going around to become part of. The key to become part of Idaho, and it's the Greater Idaho petition. I have it right here. I can sign it if you'd like. Too Bad you're not. Right Yes in it is going around. There's also a petition down here, going and lot around the hot areas around Portland. There's a lot of areas there. There was a petition was also being passed around to get. Our whatever you call her. We, don't you know Kate? Covert came. Out of the state. You know literally no, they There's there's a lot of petitions going around there to get rid of the spaces down here collected nine hundred ninety. Signatures one day. Wow? We have that stuff going on in Pennsylvania. We have several attempts now to remove our governor, not only petitions, but the state assembly is pushing for it and. What's your read since you're their boots on the ground? What's your read on support for reelecting president trump? Do you sense that? There will be greater turn out because people have seen firsthand. The damage that progressives can do up close. From what I've seen, yes. From When I even there's there's people that I know that. Voted for Hillary and and you know whining wine. anyways they are they. They have no use for. They have no use for Biden. They have no use for his ideas. But, then the area where where we're at, we believe in killing our guns. So. Yeah. You're yeah, you're in the south. You're you're into that. Second Amendment thing as me. It seems though Joe that this is the first time in that I can remember in my lifetime that the left has just with unbridled abandonment. Just gone all in with the the name coined the accusations. The burning taken down the statues, getting rid of the flagged threatening people's lives. I mean it's so over the top. This election cycle that I can't help but wonder if. Lifelong Democrats are just fed up now. Are you still. There did I lose you? Okay? Yeah. I was just wondering if. On the whole thing started. You know there was publicize dealer where you're going to get together and how little moratorium March and town! Hello I remember that. I remember reading about that in the in the Portland, whatever it was called. Here in Oregon well, what the day that it was the show up, they came out. They just don't do that. Quiet. Little March, supposedly downtown well. They found out that a lot of. Residents around here showed up carrying now I'm starting right to carry instead with a business owners, a lot of never had gone so and was standing there with police, because we support the police and the police spurred us. He wasn't very quiet, marched in last long and everybody went home. Because we're willing to stand up for our rights. And like we had a call earlier and I wanNA. Thank you for calling Joe we had a call earlier where gentlemen asked about. Vigilantism and I don't. Think we're there yet? I pray? We're not there yet, but I just know too. Many people like yourself. Law abiding citizens love the country. Love the constitution. Respect, law and order. There's a reason there's a second amendment. Now understand we have an entire generation that was not taught. The reason for the Constitution the value of the constitution. A lot of people were taught that the constitution was just. It was another way to get some free stuff from the government. And that's it's the complete opposite. So, it's GonNa. Be Interesting to see I in a way. I'm glad the left has overplayed its hand because a lot of people, I know a lot of people that were on the fence. About these shenanigans in two thousand sixteen, they thought trump. Trump brought it on, and I think they're seeing now that for the first three years of trump's administration, things were really moving in the right direction. And then we had. You Know Miss, reporting, on Co Vid, and then we had the tragic situation of George Floyd which turned into. A whole new movement. which it shouldn't be at this point. It's the rush limbaugh show. We'll be right back. Eight hundred, two, eight to twenty, eight, eighty, two in for America's anchorman my name. Is Ken Matthews and I'm going to post on my facebook page at Can Matthews I'M GONNA post a couple things. A couple of things that are just breaking the Seattle police just released body cam footage of protesters throwing. All kinds of things at them, which didn't make it into the News Fox just released their. Body Cam footage. I'M GONNA put that on my. FACEBOOK page I'm also GONNA put the Soundbite I'm not gonNA. Play it because I thought you know. I'm not going to give that. Reporter who probably? I don't even know if they're. Are you just never know? Everybody's behind a mask on talking about the woman that called Kelly? mcenaney allying be word. Put that on the facebook. You can hear the audio for yourself. Thanks for tuning in as always eight hundred to eighty to twenty, eight, eighty two. An earlier in the show we mentioned that the largest. Teacher's Union. Is Suing. To Santa's here in Florida I happened to be an undisclosed location in Florida. Filling in for rush today and they're suing. The governor and the state, the teachers are suing them. because. They want to open the schools and the problem I have with the news media and I've had it for some time many years. And I've gotten better at giving you exact reasons. Because we all have our issues with the news media because there's just not a lot of journalists left in the news media. There's not a lot of people that tell the truth or they know the truth. They don't want to tell the truth once they get a taste of the big money. Then, they're just going to buy into the narrative. Pick and choose companies they pick and choose. Politicians etc.. And you know in many cases. There are people in the news media that have a very low opinion. Of you and me based on who we vote for or what we buy. Or what we wear and I and I. think that's despicable. That's. That's the problem with journalism today. Journalism is worst in Showbiz because when you come to journalism when you come to as a consumer of that product, News and information facts evidence when you come there, you expect. At least some sense of fairness, or at least you're going to get both sides of the story. Maybe you got a guy who hates trump, but he still going to tell you. That trump was the first to do a lot of things that the last three or four president said they would do. Most, politicians are talk. Trump is not from that. Era that sector if you will. He's from the sector where you come and see him one week, and he becomes so outraged about prison, reform or something within three weeks. There's changes happening. Most politicians are from the sector where you come to see them. And then they have a very outraged press conference in. There's some tears, and there's a photo op and there's usually a child involve. A child somewhere, not not like Joe, Biden. You don't have to be touching a child inappropriately Joe. Biden is done repeatedly, and no one wants to talk about because they don't have the guts to cover it, but that's news but they always pose with the children we care about the children we care about prison reform. We care about police reform. We care about drugs in schools. We and then nothing gets done. President trump shows up and says you know what this pedophile stuff is driving me crazy. I'm sick of all these people involved in this getting away with it. Do you know he has done more prosecutions of child traffickers in three years than the last fifteen? Look it up. YOU TO AT MSNBC I, know you have computers. Look it up. And earlier in the show we mentioned that the CDC. Latest numbers less than two percent. Of covid nineteen. Are People under twenty four. Now yes, there are people that have lost their lives, but I also want. I want to stress a couple of things that drives me crazy about the cova coverage and you may. Or may not, but I'm I'm guessing if you're rush, limbaugh, show listener you probably agree with. that it is being misinterpreted, it is being. exaggerated. And it is something that the news media has become expert at, and that's not gathering evidence. It's Cherry picking the evidence to fit their narrative. I want to give you a good example of that today. And I just dropped it on the floor, but I actually memorized. Will Not memorize it, but I got the gist of it and that is. For example. Excuse me this is from Texas. This is from CNN CNN rights is. Some Texas counties are bringing in refrigerator trucks as morgues reach capacity. Okay first line of it. That's the headline. Here's the first line with skyrocketing corona virus hospitalizations Texas hard hit. Counties are bringing in refrigerated trucks as more Philip now. What what does that say to you Oh my God. The death rate is out of control. No because as you get far further into the article, but no one will go further into the article, because most people that by CNN's garbage, just take off headlights. That's why they're in all the airports. It's kind of like using snow pts. Slopes is for dopes. Or wikipedia. You tell someone or you share something with someone and they go well. Let me just check that. Let me see if Donald Trump is actually kicking puppies today, hold on. Trump's nope, says he is. You're an idiot. Slopes is for dopes. wikipedia is for lazy researchers fact, check dot. Org is also a scam. Do the research yourself. So I found out that it's an uncomfortable topic. The refrigerated trucks, but a lot of it has to do with the fact. That people have to postpone. Funerals and that comes up in the report. It's not because of a death rate. It's because of the. What's the word I'm looking for? The hold up the delay. Excuse me the delay in funerals. And the other aspect is this of this is when you look at the CDC reports. The deaths are called co vid dash related. Now that worries me now let me tell you why that worries me. This just broke. Twenty four hours ago. Here's the headline from the Associated Press and more indepth even from Gateway Pundit. Here's a headline flaw in manufacturers testing system for corona virus used by labs across the US causing false positives. So we already know that the low, the lowest people at the lowest risk to anyone is a zero to twenty four, so that's the entire education system. For most people, we all know someone who's thirty eight still in college. But from zero to twenty four. And that's the first thing we closed remember. Isn't that interesting? So. We called it Cova Dash. Related complications, illnesses and COVA DASH related deaths so number one we're dealing with. They're not authentic Kovic numbers. Because we don't know yet, it could be related. It could be someone that was. Overweight, they had a pre existing situation. They were already on a bad health track. So that's the first thing, but the second thing is. When you have a flaw in the testing procedure in state after state, this latest one is in Connecticut. Now I was told by liberal friend of mine that the people of Connecticut are very smart and I'm going to go with that because I know some people in Connecticut and I know there's a lot of smarty pants up there. And fancy schools and I used to work there. It's one of the few states I wasn't fired from. Thank you. Between July fifteenth and July Seventeenth. According to the Department of Health scientist in Connecticut, the flaw exposed the following. They started to take samples random. A total of one hundred forty four positive tests will ninety were actually. False. So do the math on that and don't do common core math. So ninety out of one forty four were false now. Just say if that happened. Three times in every state. There'd be no pandemic would-be an epidemic. If that just happened three times in every state if they were off that much in every state. We know they were often Pennsylvania. I saw it firsthand New York. And Florida. We saw last week. Rush was all over that story. You know who broke it. The Fox affiliate in I think it was in Orlando Mike. I think it was Orlando. The Fox affiliate broke the story. And what was the story hundreds? Hundreds of incorrect. In, data on the testing so when you combine that. With people cheering on negative things that happen think about the way dues reports. On the riots on trump. On what's happening with cove it? But for me, personally as as a parent, our oldest is out of high school now or youngest is two more years. As a parent I I saw the impact it had just on teens. Let alone. Elementary in primary grades, taking children out of that educational environment that social environment. Putting taxes, this is further tax on the parents both literally and figuratively. And you think about what the mantra is of the left. How they're all about you know the single mom, the single parent, the the person having a tough time. No, you're not. Because you don't act that way. Because if you were really about that, you would have done this the correct way. You wouldn't have hyped it and milked it and exploited it, and now you're trying to get as many people. Making more money on the. The bonus and the the unemployment and the stimulus than they were making before you would have said look. No matter what happens, we cannot close our schools. But you decided to close the schools and now how many states if you're listening? Are you one of those states where your governor has now said? Well! We're not sure we're going to open. We may not open completely. We may why. Has Anyone explained why. Because if you use this excuse. Well. Have you seen the numbers? Yeah, I have and I have yet to see an accurate covid, nineteen case, count or death count. Anywhere. Have you. Probably not. And don't say you saw it on the view. And that's the problem, so we are making decisions on evidence that isn't there. On false parrot false positives and we're making decisions on a false narrative just like we're doing with the riot stuff. And you know whose fault that is. The People's job. WHO's their job is to get us the information. Their job is to say what's happening in Portland. You know what people are saying now and think about the absurdity of this. They're saying the economy was doing so well and then look what trump dead. Can you believe people are actually using that as a talking point and we knew they would. We knew they would you're right? The economy was. gangbusters six seven months ago, it was incredible. In all sectors, genders, race age manufacturing, things were improving. From the Mexican border to Canada to Chinese trade dynamic. And then all of a sudden. We got a virus from China that the news media was told. Don't say it's from China call at the trump fires and people actually did. I hear grown men and women with college degrees well. This wouldn't even be happening if it wasn't for Donald Trump. What. The Chinese virus wouldn't be happening if it wasn't for Donald Trump. This is what we're up against now. I happen to think. It's going to be a plus. During the election time, unless and maybe this is happening in your state. And you can call and me Leno. Are they planning on all mail in voting in your state? Because there's rumors in my state of Pennsylvania and in other places like new. York that they want to do all mail in voting why? To protect you from the cove. is seeing. And if the numbers get really low and if people are getting healthier. With fine in November. So, a lot of people don't want that to happen, and that's a shame. 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For fifty percents off. Joe Biden. Is. In New Castle Delaware and it looks like he's giving one of his packaged presentations where they. They put it on a teleprompter and they printed out form. And a lot of people use teleprompters I'm not saying that's a bad thing. But the minute he goes off script. He's in trouble. And I can't tell if he's answering questions or not. Says Biden unveils economic recovery plan now last week, or was it, was it? No I think it was last week. Yeah, last week, he unveiled. His Pie in the sky. lunatic green deal. I think they call it. The is the lunatic green deal, or you're out of your blanket. Mind Green deal one of those, but the second. He goes off teleprompter. It's trouble. Speaking of press conferences earlier. The reports were out. There and I'm so glad I didn't mention any names. It turns out the woman that allegedly was heard calling. Kelly mcilhenny. The B word. During a press conference actually said this. Now I'm going to simulate it because she had a mask on this happened, she actually said this. Oh! You Walk. What are we gave? So that's what she allegedly set. Of She's actually come forward and said that what I actually said was okay. Don't you want to engage? But the problem is the problem is when you have a mask on. It sounds like this. Donald trump is a big pook. He had so. That's the problem with these masks. You know not only are we changing? The language were filtering it with a filter. You don't even need. The way you'll also find studies. I'm not gonNA play any of the audio on Russia show as a guest host, but you'll find the studies. Seven Years Worth of studies that explain what and what doesn't work with the mask. And how massacre being misused and not being washed and made of the wrong material, and how one person even said. Well it's kind of a visual saying. We know it doesn't always work, but it's a visual thing. It sends the right message well then. Why don't you just painted on your face? Think about it think about that. Mandatory Mask in fact here in Florida. Miami Dade Broward County's now mask are mandatory. As of this morning, they issued emergency orders hours ago, requiring people to wear face mask and all public spaces as local COVID, nineteen cases and fatalities rise. And those numbers are based on what. None of Your Business! Just follow along play along. Eight, hundred, two, eight to twenty, eight, eighty two. Let's go to kneel in Matthews North Carolina. I'm Neil. You're on the rush, limbaugh. Hey Ken thanks for taking my call. To I wanted to speak about the mccloskey's out in Saint Louis The couple that had the guns on their Porch Yep. Yep! Well you know the narrative from the media is that the protesters were in the street and they were in their lawful right to protest. and Follow up in a second. Thank you, Neil. Thank you so much for tuning in today and your great calls comment Ch- Eight, hundred, two, eight to twenty, eight, two, and a moment ago and I Apologize Neil I I wasn't paying attention to the clock, and I put you on, and you didn't have enough time and I know. You were starting to talk about the mccloskey's in Saint Louis and when we last spoke, you said it was A. Leftist overreached so go ahead and continue. What the the media is saying about. The protesters were out in front of the mccloskey's house. was that they had you know they have a right to be out there and protest and that's it's true if you're on a public street, but the mccloskey's live in a private neighborhood it's gated and any gated community the streets, and the common areas are owned by the community, and they are also maintained by the community, so they were trespassing they weren't on. Public property they were on property, and in fact, mccloskey's own in part with the rest of the Homeowners Association property. They were walking on. That's true. It's an extension of theirs. It's an extension of their property. And it's interesting month. And the, it's funny that you bring that up, neal, because if you look at the different, I think Fox was one of the few. And maybe some of the. Alternate. News online sources they were among the few that played the full the full video where you saw the crowd breaking in. Through the gate, which was secured and then trespassing on the private street, and then walking right up to their driveway line. Most people just show them what you discussed they showed. The narrative that fits that you know that story, just a bunch of people protesting because I remember seeing comments online. Look at these people. They're getting all angry just because someone's in the street well first of all. The people in the street were making threatening gestures and saying things threatening, but like you said they were on private property so now in North Carolina. What is that? What's the covert vibe there? Because you're. Is that We are getting more cases, and it's only because we're getting more testing I have close friend. That's a nurse in the in the unit where they actually are on ventilators. And she said it has picked up on. has picked up. but the deaths have not so I would say that a lot of people here, and when I go out of was just after noon I think ninety nine point, nine percent of people are wearing masking are socially distancing. And you're in Matthews. North Carolina, refresh my memory. Were that is. It's it's basically Charlotte. It's just south. Okay so your beer in the central the west part of the state. Yeah because when I when I came down through ninety five bypass. Just east of Raleigh Goldsboro in that area and I didn't see a lot of mask wearing their and I'm wondering. Did your nurse tell you? Is She finding because what I'm finding in Pennsylvania is. Even though there's more testing and more cases, they're not as severe. and. Maybe it's just because they're testing healthier people I. I don't know what what are you hearing from your nurse friend? She said there are more admittance to the hospital. Not In a case where they are terminal or put on ventilators, so she said to hospitals they actually were increasing the cases there, but they are not. what you would call terminal cases on ventilators, they're. Being treated and released. Do, you think North Carolina Schools? You'RE GONNA. Open up in the fall from what you're seeing. I Mecklenburg. County which is the largest school system in North Carolina, which is here in Charlotte they are. GonNa, open up for half a day for half the students for two weeks. And then it's GonNa. Be All online and the governor. Here is doing everything he can to not let kids get back in school and he's the one everything he can to try to re. Shut us down. Wow, well, I appreciate the update and stay safe Neil I appreciate that and the the interesting thing about that. Is there such a ideological difference? Between there's a group that wants to get kids back to school in a safe sanitary healthy environment where they can interact. And there are so many things that go against. Common sense the the numbers don't match up with the behavior and some of the activities of the government agencies especially in places. That lean hard left like when you look at California, the government is, there's pockets of conservatism in California. But they they. In many cases are also trying to I've I've heard? People trying to delay school till next year. I know that Mayor Jim, Kenney and Philadelphia in my home state of PA they just banned. Public gatherings. I forget the amount. I'M GONNA. Say Fifty to be safe, but maybe twenty five, but public gatherings over fifty people so sporting events concerts music all that stuff until February first two thousand twenty one now. Has Someone who's followed this fairly closely like you. If you're a rush listener, you're definitely plugged into what the heck's going on. Why would you ban? Why would you push something out that far? What could possibly be your motive? I mean I know. People want to push past the election, but. It just it just doesn't make any sense back to the phones we go. Speaking of California Vaughn is in Central Valley California on your on the EIB network. Hello. Greetings. so I'm a first time caller. Longtime Listener always wanted to say that. I'm a black conservative. And it almost feels like I'm a heretic at this point like I subscribe to the notion of like John Make Water and I don't really believe in this whole political punditry. That's going on right now. It just seems like a done. And like I truly believe in the value of capitalism, because like I worked super hard to get into the number. One Public University in the United States I worked my took this off. I know the radius in categories, but like I'm worked hard for that and capitalism is something that should be protected, and it seems like the less district trying to destroy it. Let me. Go back to what you said earlier on. It sounds like you're on the right track. Is Far as the way you're thinking about the greatness of this country. What did you mean when you talked about the political punditry? What? What exactly did you mean by that? I mean by nature like man is a political animal, and then the people who rise to the top are usually demagogues in their own right like you look at the right now you have to remember like. I'm GONNA elaborate like on the German Socialist. Workers Party the Nazis I mean they were Socialists. However like Hitler became an authoritarian dictator because he destroyed what their principles were at the time. It just takes one political pundits that apple to take a system and destroy it and use it for evil. I mean he kills Gregor Strasser, and he undermined auto strasser. In the of the long knives and use the movement that people thought about socialism and community and rebuilding the country to absolutely pollute and destroy. So, what's your? What's your hearing? If you're just tuning in is you're not hearing the typical college student because you. You sound like you understand history and you're. You're well versed in history. Have you taken any diversity classes or Social Justice classes. Well of course I mean like. I I go I. GO TO UCLA like it's. It's pretty less leaning and like. I'm a sociology and music major like I should be left in my own right. Use less out of the BALLPARK. That's how I should be, but I'm not. And like indies courses, it's always one narrative via the eight from that Neria narrative in any way, the coming attack you, it's oppressive. It's almost like a regimes in charge, and you're being destroyed like I believe that there is social justice work that needs to be completed a young black man, so we have equal footing and opportunity to re. It's called capitalism for reason we. We just WANNA earn capital. We WanNA. Make jobs. WE'RE GONNA make America Great. That's all we want. A agreed now before we before. We part and I'm so glad you called. Are you familiar with Thomas Soul? Obviously you are. Actually no I'm learning. Okay Well Thomas Soul is probably one of the most brilliant speakers in history. Writers Speakers conservatives. He wrote a book. That really sums up a lot of what you covered in your conversation. It's called conflict of visions. It's. I have the second edition. 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Niners, Explained Ep. 17: Where do things stand with George Kittle?

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Niners, Explained Ep. 17: Where do things stand with George Kittle?

"Your website is pretty, but is it smart if it can't answer the most basic questions about your business when people search then? Ab It's not. Yes answers can help yet answers upgrades your website with a powerful search engine. See your customers getting official answer to every question when they search for information and that means you can drive more transactions while also reducing support costs the best part it's free to try. Just, go to Yahoo, DOT, com, and learn more about how your answers can be the brains behind your business. s miners. Blocked routes what's going on trial? Thanks for having me on. No proper man though it's been while. The first official tied cast of the two, thousand twenty season and there has been some news. The last we the last time we talked. was. Ritchie James Broken Ribs. A couple player. On the COVID nineteen list there are also used in that whole situation that has really changed a lot of the Austin and. And really get into that but there's no bigger news rob. Forty nine forty nine is the best players on our news the best player. The forty niners. George Kiddo who is entering the final year of his contract. And on. Friday the latest news from. Who is tied into the forty niners but it? Is. My Silverstone. He's always going to put his own twist on the news. Reported that. There's a disconnect between tiddle and the forty niners. Founded based scores report that would like to be paid as a wide receiver. And not not so much concerned with breaking in the market of the tight end because China's are being paid ten, twelve, million dollars in. Donated on the top one, hundred players. We might get into. Devon. Best Player in the NFL which I mean, you're not gonNA get mini-army minutes from. Not a lot of people because he was that dominance go. What are, what are you? What are your thoughts on the whole kid? I think the worst thing the forty niners could do and I said. When I was closing on the forty niners, weds don't podcast. Page Killed Twenty million dollars a year George is awesome. He's a great player like you said, the players voted him seventh best in the NFL but he's not worth twenty million dollars a year and if he thinks the is he can go get that in two years after the forty niners franchised him twice because they'd be stupid to pay that amount of money. There's. Fascinating so Last week we under the impression that the deal was done. Took that is mission. I was convinced it was done. News obviously was not correct. I was also told that he's situation whatever happened happened between. Thursday of last week and up to. July thirty first. Thing change between these two I don't know if he just like these offers that he was getting disrespectful I was under the impression that. Kim would make anywhere between thirteen thirteen and a half million eaten with. Is that we're paying more. Now completely sideways table whatever happened and the information was told recently also lined up with googlers though I don't know if he was just. Don't think chain have no idea what that was, but I do agree. And I think this is where a lot of fans are having a really tough time because it'll be a generational player that can be screwed. You can also not plenty this generation pain is generational player twenty, million dollars, whatever it is to pay him like an actual top receiver when even is bad. I don't think that I would want to take him seventy million. Play collar, but at the same time. Time and Just relieve. The needle move that much three player dominant receiver. Blocker in the game. Or there's no argument we're talking about team structure. Offense is that how you want? Your offense because. Let's say that. Let's say that Jesus Erica Genius you're going to have to pay those guys and the. More, you pay till the last year and a half. A. Number that you feel like the forty niners should not budge awesome it comes to. I think the most you give the most fifteen million a year that that's seems to me to be fair that would reset the market. It would pay him for both receiving and his blocking it wouldn't break the bank totally go absolutely crazy but I don't think you can ask for more than that from the forty niners if they say, Hey, look, we're paying you more than any tight end has ever made before the history of the NFL because we think you're the back. How are you going to argue with that? Like what are you come back with? When I would imagine? You to be viewed more as an offense that weapon quote unquote and less time. So. That's the case he going to be thought of as a wide receiver and that is going to mean he wants to make. Fifteen million a year and indeed cannot come to an agreement. So artist evidence when the forty niners going to you know, put the helmets leaving the date on the twelfth of August team all. Starts Practice. Will. Will he to practice? To practice actually practice or did there's Domini? I just hope it doesn't bleed into the season 'cause the last thing that Stanford. This. As the team is driving, give back to the Super Bowl. Always go hang? Your best players contract negotiations to hang on. What? Ends up working out. I think it's GonNa work out for a couple of reasons. I don't think kid going to skip anything because number one he said he wouldn't now like you said things change and if there was some sort of. Incident or insults play from he's now angry at the p maybe that contains but he has already stated that he's not going to skip anything and the new deviate. It was just agree to basically makes it impossible for guys to hold out because they would just get financially crushed. So I think he's GonNa go up and if the forty niners have shown anything recently, it's mcvay understand. How negotiations are viewed by the other players in the locker and look at what happened with the most situation. Right. So supposedly, they were his representatives, we're talking team they couldn't get anywhere. He went public with a trade. We crossed the next in the next few days after that, we found out that he's made up with the team and like week after that, we find out hey, look the teams are carry most reworked unique Karen a lot more money now. So they understand how this is viewed in the locker room they need to take care of their guys I. Think eventually it gets done I think this little sort of Mike Silver carrying water for George kills people honestly. I would imagine this go. Yeah I. Love it because kiddle does choose to doubt which. Is August seven. He have earned a hundred and fifty dollars. And he doesn't get to keep that by the way he has to pay out of his next dollars though it's not like, Hey, here's a hundred and fifty thousand dollars is, Hey, we're gonNA take that money from you for next season we're now but it's not gonna be yours doesn't seem like a realistic option and everything we know about who loves football. So you would think that they're gonna get get something done. I just can't imagine him playing on a two million dollars Valerie after everything that he'd done in the last two years. And I'm a bringing up. Because He's Pleasure. Forty. Nine one aware and listeners been adamant we're doing everything we can. We're GONNA work on this. We're GonNa get something done. So is Mary it is very very. We're still talking about this three weeks from now. Then maybe started but I mean haven't even put on pass. On. Anything else. I think that if the salary cap was not going to go down next year deal would be done I think that's what's adding an extra layer to this whole thing isn't it for the first time in basically forever because of covid nineteen salary caps going go down all these plans if these teams had about how to structure all their star players deal have completely revised because no-one figured that this was going to happen to salary cap was ever going to go down. So I think there's a little recalculation taking place I. think it will happen everybody's GonNa. Adjust take a deep breath and like you said, I think it gets done. US. Now let's talk about speaking of John Rich She's got extended and. ME I. Was No And reason he got his first because the whole college tuition as well and the teams. I. Got Extended the Winston Shanahan will be with the forty honors through two thousand, twenty four is there anything that we need to be concerned about because can't Do is one year longer than Lynch and what before before you answer that? During when he spoke Fokker McCain biard earlier in the week, he's dead that I'm not gonNa be around forever says something along those lines I'm paraphrasing your weather. He may not want to do this I. Don't know if that was answering for most Brad Peters. least to be in the Front Office for a long period of time but. Multi. Coming from the media on all already was making a lot of money. So that's why this was a surprise or in general but. -bility and they're going to have to very aggressive career aggressive general manager at various coach and I think that's Running your teams. Now we're the forty, nine hundred to extend went. Well I'm glad you pointed out the difference in their contracts. That's exactly where I was gonna go like when Lincoln Shanahan came in it would be everybody made a big deal out of the fact that they both had six year deals they were married together. They were both going to be on the same page. They were going to have a real coon by our relationship unlike Jim harbaugh bulky and it has worked out exactly that way. Now it's interesting to see the couch Tan Hans deals one year longer than John Lynch deal, but let's be honest. Kyle. Shanahan is John Lynch and. We all know that I mean John Lynch literally called in and said, Hey will you hire me to be your GM I? Mean that's exactly how he got the job and that's straight from Lynch's mouth. So the more important person got locked up I don't even flinch does move on like you said, the team has the structure in place everything orbits around Kyle, Shanahan and and for now. Things are stable in forty. Nine Orland we've seen that doesn't always last but for now, you can pay a little bit. The most important parts of teams resurgent are secure for the immediate future. I I am hundreds on board with this team Kyle's team it had any sort of. In sort of feeling that is not the guy. Isn't not. There's no chances happens and remember year ago you're part put out that. A working version between. Ants gaming hand. Was a bull run. Both receiving and. A lot of. The one thing that we need to point out in about your worth about what you every day. If you did along with your coworkers every single day, not realistic. These guys are together through upwards fifteen hours a days long days, and you are not going to have agreements on every player. GotTa it. We we all. Played and still. Plays Superbowl. So They're talking about players mysterious. Happen I. Think it was a wise idea to walk show. Stan in this. I think is going to before the United Coach for a long long time even after twenty twenty five. I'm not so sure that Lynch will be around but I think that's more on. And on the dynamic between. Finance go. is going to be continued to be aggressive I mentioned to this hour. Obviously, Kim deal rest out I wanna see it. Talking about Daniel Breaks Music Foot and we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA talk about that right now is The youngest even don't step up, we'll make another record in season trae receiver. That is, Tibo is out for an extended period of times you must never broken. And when she was on Vr, he didn't give a specific timetable. So you original timetable frenzy voted out was six weeks, which would be the end of timber beginning of October just three to four games there. So Lynch would not really comment on that and I think that was kind of telling you I don't want to read into this too much but I don't I don't know people moving back. Depot has been pretty adamant that he's not GonNa miss any games but what's a player is not? I'M GONNA. Miss. Until Christmas. Ain't GONNA be there I'll be out. Magic Johnson. I like that. That's not realistic. That's how players are. Why why would he say anything else though let's talk about the receiver because you cannot talk about the forty niners without talking about the amount of receivers happens team so. Goes now and means we are dealing with injured more who? People on the forty. How people in the forty niners Kim born and how people on outside of the forty ninth spill. Are. Completely different stories and we'll get into that but intended born brands. You first round rookie Jalen her round from last year what he did not play due to back injury. But he's healthy now skins workout and he looks great. We also have Dante Pettis. Who who? Was Danny hand. Not. Strongly about and then trip Taylor who is healthy and. Throughout and then there is also try to speak who came over from the chargers. They're in plenty of talent. There's also plenty of unproven talent I think is important to make that distinction because. Heard. So tell there's no way. Taylor. From the offense I don't think he. Really. Moves the needle. In what's Do. I would not. Mind the doses. Return. What he can do because we're talking about just perimeter receivers and devote was better when he was in his can also. The forty s don't have many options on the is that might pave the way for pennies. Who is going to step up in abstinence? Somebody's going to have to because like you said they, it's not a massive guys right now you know they always say if you have two quarterbacks I mean you don't have one well, the forty niners. tap-in wide receivers. Now they have more than one I don't know. I WANNA say Jalen Hurd because I was encouraged like everybody was I was watching him catch those touchdowns and of the Dallas cowboys around in that pre thieving game. But we just don't know I think that it's going to have to Kendrick born. He was the reliable target for them in the red zone. He did have a couple of high profile drafts, but for the most part of the season as a whole, he was actually a very reliable receiver. He's got experience in the system so he's not going to have to learn a complicated system is crazy. No no bad practice who knows if there's going to be practice tomorrow because the COVID nineteen world. I have to go with born and I hope and I really hope because I like him I think Trent Taylor could do a lot of damage in this often Garoppolo. Love them that great chemistry when they play together. So I lean on born if you get Taylor in the slot, you still have kittle and in Cairo cross I feel like he's GonNa piece together and find a way to get guys open. And the. Between Garoppolo and Taylor. Very good point. I also think that we talked about this on another podcast. Training. Camp into nineteen. That was impressed news Jalen Hurd and it was also Taylor Taylor was undoubtedly the best receiver on the forty niners and training camp last year he looks like a guy that was gonna to catch seventy eighty. Security blankets though. is going to be the receiver that really helps rob long. Distances medium and heard I was more of Lincoln Inside Is. Going to be the guy outside is into going you be born. It's let me ask you if your team is thirteen, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. Contingent warmbier top threat. That's a good question can be the topic threat no, but kid off the top threat can you be your receiver? Man. I. Think if you're if I don't know I can't I would say no. Yeah I if or just like removing our feelings of how we feel about the plan for moving our motions I think there's no way that he can be your top receivers I think born is extra on third down. He's excellent in the red zone he has A. Very familiar role and. Want. But is going to be a guy where thirties. Everybody knows he's GonNa give the ball can he say three from an Jalen Ramsey? Him To Yeah I I'm, not I'm not. You guys can make all you want to. I don't even know that I don't know how. Our Trust. Open top here's one and that's probably why we're having this conversation in the first place I mean, you moving again and he isn't a perfect fit for what the forty niners do. He's also bike speaker and we were spoiled Diba last year. So, that the experts the the rookie from here on out are going to do not fair just because of what the previous rookies done. I think we have to be a little tear. But You tell in threes guy that can run on the outside didn't. We'll he'd be able to do it early in the NFL because was out pretty a period of time he might not choice. Yeah I'm a little nervous about devaux injury to because. Doug Jones, fracture. It's the kind of thing where if you come back too soon, you you just a very, very high chance that re-injure it. Also kind of thing where you think you're doing better than you are like, you think, hey, you're good to go but the bone itself is not actually healed all the and the only reason. I know so much about this. Because Kevin, durant had the same thing and I'm a huge Oklahoma City Thunder Fan. So he had it I was like studying all about the Jones fracture one of they're gonNA do now they're gonna put it grew in there it's it's a it can be a lingering thing and you know I'm sure GONNA work his tail off to try and come back as soon as he can, and that might work against him with this kind of injury. And that's free terrified. that. Like, he wants the evacuations fossil that can work against. And now goes inside the injuries that don't go away like these. People. Had a broken foot or had a Jones fracture and all of a sudden they're fine. You're not much. Research because there are so many apples and is pretty terrifying. Go I'm hoping that it Kinda slow roll devaux coming back. And the early schedule will help but I don't think it's going to be as much of a cakewalk think without without Adiba the good news there is plenty of. have. To have the weapons. They'll be able to score points and it's just GonNa be on trial to come up with that. In Italy. Got A lot more interesting. That is for sure. Let's. Let's talk about the top one, hundred list because accident. By argument about our week, we had start outside. So armee skin, it's just missed the top one hundred, he came one hundred four Martin Skin Dad. RCN should have made. NO I. Don't want to get fired up about whether he's been like a hundred or you know. Live I the thing I don't like about this list that they put it together like November October November. December. When they put it together like huge part of this season is not over and they're they're putting together this top one, hundred list. So that's frustrating to me because what a guy does especially late in the season makes you feel differently about him than you would maybe earlier in the year. So that's a point of contention with me. I. Don't have a problem with armstead being left off if he has another year like you just did and he definitely beyond. How he started the season, he wouldn't eat. But he got off to a really hot card and I don't believe you had A. Game in week twelve. Players. They're looking. As. Much as we talk about personal. Players aren't ruling how many. How many how many quarterback is so? Air Garson did make the next player on. was. Great team. So Thread Warner numbers could be. In my mind. Spread watering is undoubtedly the best car was linebacker the NFL. I wrote him plenty of times like you. tweet all conflicts during the season. It's a lot of people will only go know the place where he's targeted whereas. The Goff sketching thrown right to those. Are. Not The plays that mate were special the place make worse. Are the ones where keep tastes away and throw where the quarterback can't make it like against the ravens gets so many pass breakups square likings running. Argument with a fast players in the. He's getting. Tax Break up on the fourth down but. Used the. Rams were golf. and. There was an internal though the plane where you really can't make them special artists. His period gave him the recognition because I don't feel like people understand how great not good great was last year, and it's not. It wasn't really him. Issue was bengals tackling I. Think was a little overrated with one through linebackers. To places where guys can. They don't really have as much of an impact because for example, warner is cruel to running back in the backfield it's. Desert rat a mock. Four guys ranked beer. That's still a positive playing for the forty niners go. Yeah. I'm I'm glad that he was able to get the recognition he was able to get. Do you have any thoughts on? I'm really glad that he made it because I agree with you I think he's amazing and a place that he makes don't always go up in in a way that easy to like you pointed out, you know the forty niners fans have been spoiled by some really good linebacker play with Willis and Bowman, and I think Fred, Warner is going to be right with those guys. By the time he gets you know ten years into his career I've been using credible I. think seventy is going to be low achieving years on his countdown in the years to come for. The next. Is this guy named. Back. You plays quarterback for the forty niners. He was ranked forty third which. I was really really. And you mentioned how players. Happening before just Denver's though the forty niners with. Fell by this point win, they're making they're making this place and whether you know the Internet can argue as much as they want to players want a quarterback. This morning to win and Jimmy obviously wins the forty nine hundred this year. Part of that. Just not. The I think one of his best that doesn't really talk about is his ability to hang in there in the pocket. T doesn't. And that does a long way with not only making plays helps crazy quick released in. WHO throws but he doesn't he doesn't wear so. I forgot that I wish I had to pull it up. Numbers after intersection were very, very good this year and I think me like when bad and he tone to make. What the Hell did you just do Jimmy's Bro but after that? Environment is a really good quarterback. So I think they recognize that and you know he's in calm cool collected. So when you? Jimmy ranks forty woman here. What was your reaction? Well, first of all I think being the forty third best player in the entire NFL pretty damn good. And the thing that's mini is, yes, he was forty third in the NFL. But he was the eight quarterback on the whole list according to the players Jimmy Garoppolo the eight best quarterback in the league I mean say voted on this thing Lamar Russell Wilson Mahomes, threes, Brady Rodgers, John Watson, and Jimmy Garoppolo. He was ahead of Dak ahead of cotton the Henna Tannehill Josh Allen Tyler Murray. It's no I. think that was pretty accurate by the players and all your points totally dead on all the things Jimmy does well, is all the things that players respect especially defensive players by away. I. Just want to point out for people that say that it's just kind of spinning hand. When Jimmy? Garoppolo plays the niners scored twelve points a game than when he doesn't play and Oh, by the way they almost never lose. Can, say, that's all I can hang when you want but it's to when he's not in there and the numbers and the facts of proven out the forty niners are better when Jimmy Garoppolo there. Are Sounds. Here are Garoppolos number here we're Garoppolos numbers last year after throwing interstate. He threw the ball thirty nine times. What would you how many complete guess. Thirty three. Thirty six passes. Thirty of thirty nine. Four ninety two percents was not. Not Bad. For thirty nine, he had forty, two, four, star, four, hundred, twenty, nine yards. Thirty six. Thirty nine hundred four hundred twenty nine yards back is eleven yards per. Now really took that that probably not not leave the that would be the NFL. Donors options passer. Under. T. Scabby map t savvy. Walkman that is real. Guy It doesn't go wavered. Mistake fine. Whatever move on from his. Players do respect. It was I was surprised. I didn't think that you'd be that I wasn't even sure he would make a list I know how players awesome felt about them. So it's there's a lot. My next question would be next year. We'll Jimmy Higher Lord. I think he's going to be higher I think there's no question. He's going to be a better quarterback than what we saw this year's first full years the starter he still doesn't have a ton of experience when it comes to gain people that grant was like talk about his age, but it doesn't matter if you get your license at thirty but you've never driven before you're gonNA. Make mistakes and sixteen year old. You've never actually done it. I. Don't care that in the passenger seat while the best driver in the world was driving the car that doesn't teach you how to do it. He he's just getting experienced. Now when you look at Carcinogens quarterbacks, they've always done better their second full years starter I think the Arrow is only pointing up for Jimmy. Garoppolo. Two Thousand Twenty Tom Brady injuries or in their forties I'm not going to be. Hall of Famer as they are, but it's GonNa be able to play for another ten years why the only reason you wouldn't be there's Castro injury in. quarterbacks does the reason I think that would be higher is because he's now we're about we always talk about the as. Worry about the means race I think. One of his other best friends that doesn't for whatever reason doesn't need a lot of credit I think drop Loki and run out of pressure and just kind of thinking moves a lot better and he's a better athlete. A lot of people think he is giving credit for us now I've met. Richard Sherman Number Twenty eight I. Don't remember how high he was what number or he was was being the. Top thirty four NFL player. Eight thirty, two sermons and all pro. Looking up if he was seven over on adjusted yards for cornerbacks I mean he had one of the best passer ratings you can just go down the list. Was Up there and just about every statistic my question and is not so much about this year. What has to happen for the forty nine. Thirty three year old, which is. The Big West, one of the nine hundred. Degrees Ernie. down. This all their top. Going to be. Next year. I. Just could be recently by it, but I still have nightmares about Richard Sherman getting torched by Sammy Watkins in the Super Bowl getting tourist at the end of the NFC championship game which damning and said, he walked used in the Super Bowl when he owned Herman after. He does go many things well, and everything you just said points that out. But if you're talking one on one, he flat out does not have feed anymore against some of these guys and if you don't think that other teams around the League are going to be looking at that and doing exactly the same thing next year. I think you're nuts. So he was high on the list this year I, I don't have much faith in Richard Sherman going forward now they want to move into safety. Maybe. We can talk about it there but I think his years that corner numbered and to be honest with you. If I were forty niners, I don't know that I would resign and beyond with fever. Business standpoint, it would make much to build around your number, one, four, hundred, thirty, three, and they're gonNA probably they're gonNA know they've they've released. And making you know one of the line whether it's rich birds arms in. Seventeen million right there, you can throw that at nine veteran cornerback if you though. Jalen. Holidays. that. Make the most been a lot of money on a better in that you know is prime if he does reach grace the so. Be Restricted. Zone I do think that know be his biggest issues just because that's never been for us, but he's never been in Cooper. He's very smart and I do think you will be able to continue to play I. Don't know that Stacy is his best position just because. Jimmy Ward. Mickey's ranging. Can Richard Sherman gives the top gear light. Reached those thanking cover as much ground and I'm not so sure it can do that either going forward or backwards though. This might be the last year for Richard Sherman but. What he done for this team has been a rise. So next on the list. Twenty three year old at Nick. Bosa made that. In the NFL slow about this. Every player, the NFL you need both the Ra especially one of the best players in the NFL and he and not played he's only played one season so. That you can just go down the line with both pretty much top eight across the board. One of my favorites bats was. Number six overall quote unquote total pressures that includes tax hurries but. Most eighty. Seven hundred. Seventy Stephens. He had eighty and Cam Jordan who? Played a hundred more snaps than him was third and yet eighty three. Everyone else was higher than plate at least a hundred more snatched. Route. By by play basis. Both the was domestic pass rusher in the NFL and that is. A lot of people non forty, nine fans around weight. But this guy was unbelievable his hands drink and if you remember the beginning of the season, he was missing tax left and right Back from the. Room to improve I think that you can be a better understanding. Your I think he can play more control I. Can there's quite a bit better outlook Gary Thing about the two thousand, nineteen bursary Nick Bosa was the worst version that we're probably. Pretty pretty crazy. Do you have any thoughts? When you put it like that I, mean you're you're absolutely right the guy's a monster he's a free Joe Staley told everybody he was a freak out to practicing against him just a few times and I hate to be that guy but I'm going to be that Guy Wasp the games he changes plays even plays he doesn't get to the quarterback. Dip the tight end over to help out to block on him he changes the entire offensive game plan and like you said, he's twenty three years old. I don't like putting it in in these terms we're talking about somebody. But Jimmy Garoppolo getting her was totally worth it get both I'm sorry both of the monster, pass rushers the hardest position to get me NFL and they've got this guy locked up for at least four more years. On Room man and his brother just got paid and two three years from now that contract was gonna look nothing compared to what name and that is getting to be scares. Me What kind of money he gives him where he talked about a were you surprised. That high. Yes. just because I was surprised that they would give as much love to a tight end as they did, but he has basically no weakness to his game. I can't think of a single weakness as he blocks like a maniac. He runs a four five which nobody thinks he's as fast as the is probably because he's A He's a monster. He has no weaknesses so good on them for recognizing that. That's important. I think that you know he's One of those. Athletes. where I I know it. I was. When he was in college and access to use some of their weightlifting numbers and he was like number one and. Tidy like Titan Factory, he was blowing guy way room waiver numbers and out of the water and. Yet run a four five one when he was young. Jumped thirty seven and a half inch vertical, and those are GonNa do like unreal. What he did then knowing that gonna be stronger now. Yeah. I would say let's look. One. Yeah. You ran a four or five one as a junior at Iowa. I don't. Know I don't I don't know what bad. You can't save them against if we're comparing him to, Chelsea. I would say better round runner but that's That's the biggest. Difference there is though. I don't know. About other than he is going to get paid a lot of money. He's been the last thing we really have is. Because we had. Rumors. And Lynch. Are. Interesting and minus going Preston was. Outbid. Door to admit that because and Erica how did point where he came out instead you look at least he's been open with us on. Whether it was done with Williams whether it was you know. You don't want and on and on other things that he's been opened with me about he has he has been but in this situation because they didn't get the player, there's a difference between don't gift player. He's not going to be like we met run at we made a run at Jamal Adams vote were happy with what we have right now. Doesn't make sense. There's no reason to do that I. think that they're probably what interest how how's theories that interest is the real question? There is no way that the forty nine minutes. Around. I would never i. Can't imagine that I don't care what you. Think, anybody's going to argue that is more. Player he's not worth. Is Not moving the needle. You. How serious do you think the forty niners were and what would what would you have been learning up for Adams I? Think that they were serious. I think that it went like this I think the John Lynch Call Joe Douglas and Said Hey look. You can have Jimmy War you can have name basically on our team you can have him. You can have a first round pick and twenty twenty one and you can have another pick that's not a first round pick. After that. Can we do feel and Joe Douglas said no frigging way and that was the end of the conversation. I think if if the niners could have gotten it Adams by giving a package of players and maybe one first round pick I think they would have done it. They're very aggressive. They like to go after guys especially the big names. I think that that was their plan and once that didn't materialize I think. John Wrench I'm up the phone and said Oh well we tried but we're not gonNA. We're. You know we're not gonNA mortgage the future especially when we need that young labor because we have so many stars that we're going to have to signed big contracts. Great for and I think that. There is the difference between making offer just making a crazy author I. Don't I don't imagine how you can. What the forty niners have done in the past three years and thinks that they made it all her radames. Difference between what wasn't authored. People's. Any any news. Digest had been dome enough to take that deal which I'm sure would sure of course you're going to make the deal but if We're GONNA make the playoffs with or without Adams. We'll be fine. He's put us over the top. And I. think that's probably how this ended up. Stars Yeah. We are just starting to here. There's GonNa be a lot more forty niners news training camp right around like. Join the helmets. Next Week Gangs wearing as we're. We're going to be limited to even access. So only ten reporters can go and a lot of ask. The dividers? Only. Be Able to go to a couple of practices try to get as much information as I can. But it it's GonNa be fun as. I hoped it. There isn't an I know that there is a lot of doubt that there will be. At full season they're going to start. The only question is how many games will there be any interruptions? How do you? How do you feel about that? Do you have thoughts on just the whole Cova dissuasion. I- want there to be a football season I love football I live and breathe forty, nine, hundred i. Look forward to I. Count The seconds kill the football season starts that said, we should not be playing football this year it is insane that we're going to be putting these people together I don't care what kind of dumb masks they put on face masks. It's not gonNA work. We're seeing a major league baseball first weekend they started traveling they had covert outbreaks. I would love for there to be football I just don't think that they should be doing. Why has the industrial not? Thought about this bubbles. died of the fact that the. Probably don't care about players which probably the only reason but. They probably don't want to money and they don't want. Is Not a priority they're thinking dollar bills right now there's no seasons that they're going to need the revenues GonNa go way way down and was a lot of so that's why they're pushing enforced. And even in the news, UPDATES NFL PA? All that. That was going off the whole lack of week. It's still seems like the players get. Jack. And I. Can't imagine why you wouldn't put the players I. We're talking about the owners in their. Real life. They're not gonna all of a sudden care about the players. Yeah I'm open man. I'm just crossing my fingers and hoping that there's no interruptions a bubble likely as doing. The way to go but I don't know. That even be possible with how many players and teams there are in the NFL. Three fifty five men, rosters, plus practice. All, the traveling. Man. Yeah, it's not GonNa be good I mean the owners are still talking about trying to get fans in their own stadium. That's why they don't WanNA bubble they want the ticket sales so. I mean. You. Think you think that you're going to have fans. Are you're not in your mind they can't even doing baseball. With. No people fan the cardboard cutouts aren't even working. Well. There's no better way to end. This podcast. You can follow me on twitter. Tasty. Show, we will be back. Wasn't from now on and hopefully more as. You file rob on. Twitter asks. On fire. That, you want to say before we get out of here. Thanks for having me on and John Be.

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Gold Standard: Packers preview with Ryan Wood of the Green Bay Press-Gazette

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Gold Standard: Packers preview with Ryan Wood of the Green Bay Press-Gazette

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Nineteen is he is out this week against the packers but now because of close contact trent williams is gonna miss this game and and this is the real crush our brandon. I is also out of this game. and deebo samuel was also placed on the covid nineteen lists even though he wasn't gonna play in the game but so those three guys are added now eleven and i don't know who the hell nick mullins going to throw the ball to. I don't know either. I mean stand up if you were one of the guys. Banging the table. Saying trent taylor. We're going to be a number one receiver because you're right ding. Ding the niners receivers in this game. Are trent taylor richie james. Maybe every what's that maybe is questionable. I'm trying to get the benefit of the doubt here. Kevin white from the practice squad who could be elevated river cray craft and someone called chris thinki- or vink. I'm not sure. Because i didn't know he existed until about a half hour ago is it thinki- or einhorn finke aren't as a man. Wow i did not think we were going to eighth. Turn your well done. Yeah if i were gonna be thinking that the entire game when that guy you know has some two hundred yard game so this is my question because as of now again this could all change but as of now the game is scheduled to continue to go on. The packers boarded their flight already hours ago there. Probably in san francisco by now What number of people have to be out levin for the nfl to postpone this game. I don't get this one. I can understand if like one team gets a substantial benefit from being postponed. You know if it was just the niners missing people due to covid and the whole five day window. Okay i would get it. They're getting an unfair advantage by you postponing it just because they had positive tests but both teams are in the same situation. The packers have no running backs because jones is a very big question bar been reading that doubtful so they would get a benefit from pushing because it means he could get into the game and then pretty much all their other. Running backs are all either covert positive. Aj dylan close contact five day protocol like the niners which williams and i forget the other guy so they would stand to get their running backs back was pushed in the wider. The wide receivers for the niners would come back at least get back and kendrick. Bourne wouldn't be back by monday because he's actually kovic Positive that they would get william so both teams. I would say get a pretty substantial benefit from pushing it. Why not. i don't get it could being asked i. There's only one thing. I've been thinking about it for the last couple of hours. I mean we recorded. What four hours five hours ago. And then this bro. Pretty much right after some time to sit on it. There's only one reason i can think of that. They're not postponing this. What have we seen time and time again. With these covid po. The first cove positive people test negative day one day to the star testing. They might get another positive day three. They might get another positive. There haven't been very many. They get one positive. Who's a player and nobody else has positive three days later. I think their fear is if they push it and this is where you get to be really seeing. What the nfl's priorities. If they push it and more people start coming in positive thursday night friday saturday they might not be able to play it monday and the packers of already had their by. So then you're screwed but that's insane because those people right now whether the them that shows their priority. They're praying that this is my opinion. Obviously but i think they're praying. They can play the game tomorrow night. And then maybe there's more positives o'hare they were negative. How were we supposed to know. Because if they if that's an aerial happens where there are more positives to come from this and they delayed the game. There's a very big chance that they now have to go to that eighteen week. Nineteen week schedule because the packers are now going to have to have to mean. That's all i can think of. There's no other reason whatever reason because there's only one other possibility but it doesn't make any sense to me that it's to marquis franchises that come in droves for watching so they don't wanna lose the ratings for thursday night football but if you push it to monday all those fans are still gonna watch so i don't get it and you know i mean. Are they gonna come out in droves. Watch nick mullins and jamaica hasty. I don't know but it's not just the forty niners that are having this problem levin the ravens are going to be without eight players this week due to covid nineteen. It's almost an entire side of the ball like the. Nfl is just plowing through this thing here and it's very frustrating. Because it's i mean it's clearly going to impact the quality of the games. I mean what. What do we both you and i were pretty negative about the fact that they were still playing this season at all with kovic till around. What covert now. Compared to the start of the season it skyrocketed literally the highest ever been so the likelihood that this becomes in every week thing where there's more and more people testing positive is pretty high. Like there's still a legitimate chance. This season does not finish or get called off. And they say we'll finish and spring or or whatever like that's an actual possibility. I think people have forgotten about i. I know myself. I kinda stopped thinking about it that okay. Maybe the season does get stopped. Well now that the niners have add some actual covert issues kind of stopped and thought about until you know cove is worse than it's ever been that means it's as likely as ever that there's a massive outbreak in this becomes an every week thing to where the nfl goes you. We got a pause on this. It's not gonna work. That's the forty niners. Only prayer right pause the season let healthy again and then all of a sudden they look you come back. Maybe we're four and five and they can make a run right. that's the ideal scenario for them. I guess i mean yeah. The niners probably benefit as much or more than any other team from a postponement and coming back in spring. You know picking it up in like march or april so and that's the frustrating thing for me because look obviously we know that they were going to have a hard time winning games the rest of the year but i was really looking forward to on thursday night. Getting to see i can seeing you know. He's basically the only guy out there. They've got mullins who while he's not as good as jimmy garoppolo. I feel like he sees the field well enough to where kyle gets open. He's gonna see him and at least give them a chance to make a play and you know nothing can go right this season now. I can't even see that. I gotta watch possibly kevin white. And trent taylor and river cray craft. It's cray cray to make another pun. No more puns. So let me ask you this in terms of this game. What strategy would you have. If you're kyle on offense. I mean obviously you got to try and run the ball that seems to be the biggest weakness of green. Bay's defense so i would. I would let her michael hasty as much as possible. Maybe you get lucky. And they run the ball the way they did against the packers games last season. And you know if if you can do that. And if jordan replays because he still hasn't been activated off. I are but if he plays maybe he becomes the focal point of the offense there. And you kinda work everything through him. Because i mean the forty niners had trouble getting the ball of the wide receivers as it is now. They're just they're just decimated out there. I don't know what else kyle can do. No i think that. I think it's a twofold strategy that involves both sides of the ball in my opinion on offense your conservative. You basically a run run run. Run run when you do pass. It's basically a okay. Everybody go along because nobody really knows the offense. Everybody go along. Suffer you trent taylor who d- pass who they throwing it to kevin white. Well i mean it's not hard to find athletic receivers. They just aren't good at running routes in understanding complicated systems so they can run it. Go round that's not hard. That's playground football. If i'm the niners. I come out and i try to make the game as short as possible. I'm running the ball on offense. I'm doing some underneath stuff. Concentrating on jordan reed. If he's out there but the other part of it is if i'm defense knowing the offense not going to be able to generate much you play highly aggressive your blitz living crap out of rodgers and you try to force some turnovers. 'cause i think that's the only hope now for the niners is to get some defensive turnovers. I don't think they can win. I don't think they can win sitting back and going. Hey we only gave up. You know seventeen points. I don't think they'll be not the niners on our previous recording predicted twenty-three thirteen and that was before i was out in trend. Williams is out. So i don't think seventeen points is going to be good enough. I think the defense is going to have to make some turnovers and they're gonna have to get to rogers and they're only going to be able to do that blitzing. That's an interesting strategy by you. It's basically like look we know we're not going to be able to stop and yeah you could totally burn us. But we don't have any other options. So let's just throw the kitchen sink at you. And you know maybe that gives sallah a little bit of freedom to go a little nuts here and come up with some crazy stuff fred warner blitz. And all the time. Or you know whatever. I would like to see that. What have you got to lose at this point like you're done anyway. That's the way i would look at it as you know. It's not going to be good enough. Just limiting rogers to an average game. That's not good enough because our offense is gonna struggle because it's a backup quarterback with fifth sixth seventh and eighth string wide receiver. Man that that's what he has and a backup tight in fifth. String running back. I mean there is no hope and a backup left tackle. And then i can go on and on but they don't i don't see them unless they just have a couple really big plays like they get lucky and somebody breaks free. That's the only way. I see them putting up some points. This is going to be a game. Where even when even when they get a drive where the got yards. I don't think they're gonna be able to punch it in. I mean who how you gonna punch it in with that offense like you're not gonna they already struggle in the red zone like this is a game where i could see the niners struggling and having like four field goals where hey we got four big plays field goals out of it. Couldn't do anything else. Special teams you know. That's going to be. That could be an important factor for the niners. And you know i. I hate to say this eleven but you sure would like to have a punt returner who set the record for touchdown per punt return touchdowns when he was in college for a game. Like this. wouldn't you like to have dante pettis back returning punts many. He never really did for the niners anyways. I mean he was back there but it was pretty clear always and this is part of the ego of kyle in my opinion there. It's pretty clear to me that on punt returns they are told unless you got really obvious daylight in front of you. Do not return that thing. Because it's an ego thing for kyle. Because kyle says. I don't want you trying to return it. I don't care if you an extra ten yards. I don't want you risking anything. I can score points with my offense. That's generally his philosophy. Now would we like to have dante pettis the receiver right now I think that's pretty obvious. Think there is nobody else. So they need receivers. I thought you were going to go somewhere else. The we kinda predicted it or wondered if it was going to happen in the beginning of the year and we haven't really talked about all the time. I thought you were going to say this is the game for a fake punt. Oh yeah. I've been waiting for switch now. Skis the australian football player. He's got a little bit of that in them. You know maybe we see some crazy stuff. I'm waiting for that to pull that out ever since he was drafted. Everybody kept mentioning that. So i've been hoping for but we haven't seen that no we have not but this might be the game for this. Might be the game of all kinds of trick. Plays and things like that. Because like i said if they're just playing it straight and trying to play their normal offense they're not going to move the ball unless the packers didn't show up the i mean they have gyro exander like who the guard. Who do you put him on. Trent taylor what orange juice win rust juice. I did think of an interesting idea. That i don't know if they'll do. I haven't heard anything but because they're so depleted at wide receiver. There is one person on this roster. Who's not a wide receiver. That is probably capable. Does hasty just take over. The running back and mckinnon plays wide receiver. They use him so often as a receiver. It's not a crazy idea. You're right about juice to like. I bet you we'll see juice lined up a lot. On the line of scrimmage just. Because i'd rather have us check than river craft. I'll tell you that i can't wait for our post reaction craft like leads. The team in receiving or something new a river runs through it. That would be the headline on the website right when he blows up. I think the headline from this should just be show. That's what this season a season like. No other that is for sure. I had a thought now and you derailed me with your mr replan. Oh i know what it was. I don't know. I don't know how fast they build. Well i guess they can't do it with the covid restrictions ted ginn was just released he could return punts forty nine niners. We've seen that but they'd never be able to get him in on time. Yeah tweeted at jerry. Rice and terrell owens asking if they were busy tomorrow night somebody said somebody said. I'm waiting for the te'o i'm ready tweet. When he sees all the forty niners receivers that aren't gonna play and I actually tweeted at him. And jerry rice tags a minute instead. Are you guys have tomorrow night. But no i also joked that now starting a wide receiver. Mitch wish hausky. Did they respond. No not yet i was. Actually i figured jerry rice would not but i actually thought there might be a small chance t to see it and be like i'm ready. Here's a thing right now. If i told you that that the forty niners could snap their fingers and t o. Could suit up for them tonight. Wouldn't you rather watch that than richie. James trent taylor and kevin white well. Yeah i'm legitimately curious whether te'o could truly 'cause it seems like he still has a physical tools so i'm genuinely curious to see what he can do. Because i do think from the the things that have been posted by him and the things that have been signed by the people he worked out with. I do think te'o is better than a decent number wide receivers on nfl rousers right. Now i don't like he's the ceo of old clearly. I think he would probably wear down throughout the season. But do i think he could come in and be somebody that has a role from you know game here and there sp- you know. Try to rush them. Things like that and be better than some six string bea- rivercraft. Yeah poor rivercraft. He could he could be feeding the homeless every day days. Not the visibility. It's not it's not his fault. I mean he's getting. He's getting a unique opportunity. I mean look at Travis forum down in philly and he came out of nowhere he was what practice squad i think it started season and now he's like a legit receiver. It's not just me gets force fed the ball. it's no. He's like a true starting caliber receiver. They came out of nowhere. I think he's leading the league in yards since he since he got in So yeah you're right sometimes. These guys do emerge wanna go to mullins for a second. Because i've basically boiled it down to this with nick mullins if we could have nick mullins head with jimmy. Garoppolo's physical skills. We'd have a pretty damn good quarterback. Mike mullen sees the field a million times better than jimmy. But he just doesn't have the arm and the physical ability that garoppolo has so even if he sees the throw sometimes he's just not capable of making them. I don't know if i agree with that. I truly do think grop luggage through his reads. I mean we've seen steve young say times he gets thrown to quickly. It's like he's too smart. He's too good picking up things and he doesn't wait for the play to develop so i. I don't necessarily agree with that. I think jimmy can read a defense. Pretty darn well. He's just not patient enough. And i would also say what happened. Nick knaw last time he was out there while not last time. I guess because he's played for jimmy this past week but you know the time that he started. He got rattled. Big time he got rattled. I mean that's all there is to it. He's confidence a winter into the crapper like he was a shell. He could not get out of his own head. I don't know if i would necessarily agree with that one. Well that's what we got out. Now i will say that you gotta think the knicks at home. You know mrs wednesday night. They were recording go. Thank you sit at home seeing this news going. You freaking kidding me. Get i get a shot again. It's probably my last shot to prove myself to see if an team will give me a starting gig or at least try at it and this is what i gotta go with in primetime or everybody's watching me. Hey you know what nick if you can't do it then you're never going to be that guy you know if you are the guy that you hope to show then you would get it done. That's what i would say in response to a man. 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Comfort peace jc. Penney all right so what we want to do now. Is we taped an interview with ryan would of the green bay press gazette earlier in the day on wednesday We can't play all of it for you because some it doesn't apply now because news is broken since we recorded it. But there's some good stuff in there that we wanted to give you so. Here's a portion of our interview with ryan would of the green bay press. Gazette will play. That will react to it on the back end. We'll give you our score prediction and then we'll wrap this thing up first question. I have is something. I talked about on the sp nation. Nfl show earlier this week. I was stunned that the packers did not make trade at the deadline for a wide receiver. Have you picked up on any unhappiness. Perhaps from aaron rodgers that they didn't make move. Aaron rodgers has retreated into the fault zone of. He's the quarterback. He will stay in his lane publicly. At least we don't know what happens privately but publicly. he's going to stay in that lane. he's not going to rock the boat. That's the way he's been really since the draft and He's quick to remind that the one time he did really stump for for someone was j. road during training camp. It's abbreviated training camps. That they had and he said that he was a big fan of j. Oh so it'd be the team. The packers released jay kumo. He was signed buffalo bills practice squads. So he's mentioned that how His opinions his analysis and His insight into the packers offense as something that carries much weight when it comes to decisions and he's right. He's the quarterback gm frustration. I don't see how there could not be. I mean we're just being honest i. It's it's been davante adams everyone else for going on two years now with this offense. It's been the same way for a long time. Everyone knows about the atoms is tremendous receiver. A pro bowl caliber received one of the best in the league but he faces constant double teams. Because there's no one else on this packers offense in this passing game at the receiver position that you have to consistently respect and and puts the fear in you to demand more coverage i. It's it's constant double teams at the baltic atas because he's that guy It doesn't make things easier for aaron rodgers. it doesn't make things easier for davante adams so Yeah i'm i'm sure there has to be some frustration with that said it it. It hasn't translated into Any public statements of frustration or any real change from from the front office. So let me ask you that. Because niner fans are certainly curious because they would be one of the teams to At least inquire but do you get any sense that it the possibility of rogers moving on whether it's rogers demanding a trade or the team deciding to move on because they wanna go with love or whatever it may be this off season you get any sense. That that's kinda quieted down. Gone away with how well things have gone. It quiet down because it's in the season now and everyone knew that in the season aaron rodgers guy going back to draft night. Brian canton tonight. After that lafleur made it very clear that aaron rodgers guys leader this football team and as far as twenty twenty is concerned That's he this team's gonna go as far as iraq takes at. That was never in question so as soon as the season started and there was something more tangible to like actual game on the field instead of what happened in the draft. That was always going to kind of fall by the wayside at least temporarily but there is still the reality hanging over this franchise that in the draft. They put the aaron rodgers era on a clock. We don't know how much time is on that clock. We don't know if it's two seasons we don't know if it's three. Aaron rodgers sat for three seasons after being drafted in the first round by the packers and she thousand five it. he didn't until two thousand eight. He was behind breath for for three four years so certainly it could be longer than shorter in terms of how long that clock goes but they put that air on a clock this spring so It's not something that's actively. I don't think we can week out. Disgust all that much right now because right now the packers are super bowl contender. Their bona fide championship title hunt team. And that's what the focus is on twenty twenty but that that that reality hanging over this franchise never really gonna go away. So long as aaron rodgers and jordan love coexist. Okay so that's sort of a bigger picture view of things. Now i want to kind of zoom into this week i was going to be the one saying that the forty niners are going to be able to run all over the packers just like they did twice last year but now that no one that touched the ball in the nfc championship game is going to be able to play in this game. I mean from your perspective. Do you see any way. The niners can win this game. They could win this game. I mean shoot they. They might still run all over this packers defense because let's face it. It might be a completely different forty niners offense but it's the same packers run defense and we've seen what the packers run defense does or i guess doesn't do and that stopped the run. So you know i. It's from from the from the packers perspective. It's the same packers. Defense struggled mightily out there in two games last season and everyone knows what happened. The has a championship game on the ground. It's not an isolated incident. It's been a theme since the start of last season. But they they they really struggle against the run and now they're even if the personnels different they're going against the same kyle shanahan outside zone scheme That is giving him so many fits and so this is regardless of the quarterback is the tight end is stealing the edge shoot. The running back is regardless of all that this is still on some level a test that they have to pass that they can actually face this. Kyle shanahan scheme and and sand up to it. They just haven't done that yet. So i i think that that's the perspective they're bringing into it without said. Obviously as you said no one that touched the ball that is championship. Game is going to be on the field thursday night. This is obviously a very different personnel wise. Very different forty niners team and there's no question the packers are getting a huge advantage So long as this game goes off thursday night because of just the the massive rash of injuries at the forty niners up have had and and how many how much of their cap spaces is on. I r i mean you know some teams. Just get steak dinner. That's clear the forty niners are completely snaked at the season. So it's a it's a massive advantage for the packers but it's it's not something that the minnesota vikings had a lot of injuries on defense this past week. They did not towards the minnesota vikings. They lost that game. The no matter. Who's on the field. You still gotta go play and this is a team. That didn't do that on sunday against the nfc north rival. They've got to do that against a scheme that gave him fits last season. So you know you said the run defense is pretty much the same. Let me ask you. What is different about this packers team this year compared to last year that you give them optimism coming in. There's no question that you're to the matter for scheme. They're much more fluid. They're they're much more comfortable than natural in it. I think that the way that the players on offense describe it as that Last season there was a lot of thinking going on the why they were doing certain things in the scheme and just just you know what they were supposed to be doing. And and when in this game when you're when you're that mechanical you get really rigid it slows. you down. it's just. It's it's slow game speed. You're playing speed down. They look a lot more comfortable this. They're able to can conceptually understand the offense better and there's a lot less thinking which which frees them. Up i think is a big reason. You've seen aaron. Rogers place so differently In terms of getting rid of the football he's been so much better at being on schedule. It was his quick quicker releases. This season playing from with in the pocket Not not searching outfield to the point where plays breakdown. He's got a vacate the pocket and and kind of looked at times. Last season like a har- functioning with no oil it's been a very much smoother process offensively To with matt lafleur defensively. You know we look at what's different. It's a lotta regression last season. This packers defense was was pretty average when you look at total yards and They were able to keep opponents off the scoreboard. A cook in correlation. To how many yards. They gave up because they really good inside the red zone. They have been less good inside the red zone this season. But the biggest difference defensively. There's no question. Last year they lived on takeaways at twenty five takeaways last year. They were top ten this season. They have four. They've only taken away the football four times all season It's just it's it's been a massive drought and in part of that. The alaska pass. You look oppressed smith. For example you had a dozen sacks last year. He's got a half sack all season. It's been a big drop off a precedent smith so is smith sack. Production is still rather high He he's he's had fewer pressures but he's still getting home and getting the quarterback But the as a whole the pass rush hasn't been what they expected this season. It has regressed. And i think that was more comfortable quarterback and we'll comfortable watson's in general that they're going up against weekend week out because of that lack of pass rush they're they're just not generating as many big plays. They're not taking the football away as much. And that's been a real achilles heel this defense that was ryan would we thank him again for making time for us on what has sort of amounted to a crazy day for both of these teams beyond this game. Levin kinda got the impression. It's not totally out of the picture. That aaron rodgers could be a forty nine or next year. No i don't think it is. It feels like to me kind of just looking at the situation. And then also what ryan said. If it were to happen it would be more. Aaron rodgers being the driving force the packers. I don't think the packers ready to move on from him as long as he's looking like an mvp candidate but they might have pissed him off enough with never helping him and drafting somebody behind him that he might get to this offseason and go you know. I just had a great season. I just proved you guys are a bunch of dumb it and now i'm really going to dig it any. They could have burned the bridge with that traffic. So are you going to change your score prediction from earlier in the day when we take this you know. I don't think i'll change the niners score but go ahead and say this is going to be more of a blow out and i think the packers instead of twenty three thirteen. I'll go to thirty thirteen Packers are gonna be able to sit a little bit they're gonna dominate a little bit more more opportunity. I think if the packs specially if the packers get up to scores early like the niners are really be in trouble. I think i pick thirty one points for the packers earlier today. I'll think i'll go thirty five thirteen. I just i think it could get bad. I mean there's only so many losses that you can sustain before your offense just completely crumbles away and we might see that tonight. I hope we don't. But i mean kyle shanahan somehow goes eight like he's the coach of the he is the coach of the year. No he won't win it but he is now. I mean this could be a game that follows the seattle game script except for. There's no points late to make a closer than it seemed. This could be a game or the defense comes out and hey first couple of drives they did it and us hongbo Maybe and then they get tired because they offense isn't doing crap with the ball and all hell breaks loose. But i mean that that's what will probably i would say is the most likely script this game. The defense comes out looked halfway decent and then they get tired because they're constantly left out there because the offense can moves the ball they wear down and the packers. Just start piling on. Well no matter what happens we will be here for you after the game tonight as well with the instant reaction podcast. Hopefully it's a happy recap. We'll say for now please. Rate review and subscribe to the niners nation. Podcasts that work you'll get this show. Your good all are great. Shows go niners. Hopefully no one else gets sick or injured. And we'll talk to you later tonight

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Stats & Eggs 11/5: 49ers lose 3 starters because of COVID-19

Niners Nation

04:04 min | 6 months ago

Stats & Eggs 11/5: 49ers lose 3 starters because of COVID-19

"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why ibm is helping. Businesses manage customer. Questions with watson assistant. It's conversational ai. Designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm dot com slash watson assistant. Good morning i'm rob stats guerrero. Today is thursday november fifth twenty twenty. Here's what's happening with your san francisco. Forty niners as if all the injuries. This team sustain. This year aren't enough. The niners are now dealing with positive. Covid nineteen tests and all the complications that come along with that wide receiver kendrick bourne tested positive on wednesday which caused the forty niners team facility to be shut down for the day and all meetings were forced to be held remotely. The team of course immediately started contact tracing to determine who else on the roster was at risk and later in the day. Yesterday we found out that trent williams brandon. Iu and deebo samuel also had to be put on the covid nineteen lists and will be unavailable to play in tonight's game now of course diba wasn't going to play anyway so that doesn't really matter for this week but the losses of trent williams and euchre devastating as of right. Now the forty niners receivers in this game. Are trent taylor richie james. Although he's questionable kevin white from the practice squad river cray craft from the practice squad and chris pinkie or fink. I'm not sure. Because i didn't know he existed until about three hours ago. Those guys have combined for a grand. Total of six career touchdown catches packers wide receiver. Davante adams has seven touchdown catches this season alone. The packers themselves are also missing multiple players due to covid nineteen complications. So these two teams are going to look very different out there tonight. I'm sure by now you've heard the stat no offensive player that touched the ball for the forty niners in the nfc championship game is going to play in tonight's game. Why does the nfl not postponing it. I have no idea we always give you something to read something to watch and something. You might have missed something to read on. This thursday is a very interesting tweet from our own. Akash on of ruffin. Who pointed out a little hypocrisy for must 49ers fans on twitter. Yesterday we crush d ford. Because he's missed about forty three percent of his potential starts. There's another key starter for the niners. That has missed almost as much time and faced almost no criticism for it. We will be sure to tweet that from the at and an podcast twitter account. Which by the way you should follow if you don't so the tweet will be there. I'll pin it to the top of the profile so that you will be able to read the tweet something to watch. I saw this tweet from brooke. Pryor who covers the steelers for espn. She said quote pittsburgh wide receiver chase claypool. Says he has a friend on the niners. That says they still wear full pads on thursdays. Something the steelers haven't done since training camp claypool said it's really helpful to have a coach who understands the wear and tear of the season on the body and helps players now just because the forty niners have the pads on doesn't mean they're actually tackling on thursday but it is something i hope the forty niners press corps does ask shanahan about at some point in the near future. Something you might have missed. The forty niners made a little news when they released dante pettis earlier this week but he didn't have to wait long to find another job. The former washington husky was claimed on waivers by the new york giants yesterday. And we wish you luck dante. You seem like a good dude. I hope you get a shot to prove yourself. Hopefully you'll get an opportunity with the giants just saw you're going to a team. That's one in seven instead of being on a team that's for now four and four that's going to do it for this edition of stats and eggs please. Rate review and subscribe to the niners nation. Podcast network. if you do you'll get all our great including the one with me in its gold standard podcast with me and love and black. We talked to ryan would of the green bay press gazette and actually did the podcast twice because of all the forty niners news broke so now it's really good. I'm rob stats guerrero. We'll talk tomorrow.

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 Start Boston Scott? Also: Deebo on IR, Sutton Iffy

Fantasy Football Today Podcast

09:43 min | 8 months ago

Start Boston Scott? Also: Deebo on IR, Sutton Iffy

"Are we doing this emergency pod because biles sanders out for week one sandals on I are important. Sutton's a game time decision or did Jamie. Iceberg. Dismissed me and really wanted to talk to me on Saturday. You know his idea. Though I think I think. He'd be me what's up Jamie I definitely did not miss you absolutely not miss you. I hate that we're already cashing lottery tickets cashing lottery tickets or anybody. We'll see we'll see Boston Scott rostered and seventy percent of CBS leagues as we record this at about five o'clock pm Eastern on Saturday we'll be quick here. All right where are you putting Boston Scott and your rankings as miles sanders is out and he gets the Washington football team in week one. Thought Twenty I, mean you know miles sanders was a borderline number one rb this week and I think you look at what the setup is from Scott last season he was fantastic when he got a chance to get. Extended work the biggest example was obviously week seventeen last year when mal sanders left I believe was against the giants and Sanders scored three touchdowns but he had two games last year with ten or more carries One was against the giants, the both of them against excuse me. So the first one against the giants in non PBR, he got you ten fifty, nine, six catches for sixty nine and a touchdown. In the last game against the giants he had nineteen carries for fifty four yards, four catches for eighty four yards, and so he was fantastic in those two games. So I mean, you see what the what the ability is there they'll give him you know double digit carries don't think that's GonNa be a surprise with Mao Sanders playing it just a matter of how much work they give. I think the catches are going to be huge for for boss Scott. Now, I, mean it's got a real opportunity as he was kind of splitting catches with mile. Sanders could be a five plus catch games that data line. is to be surprised if it's not at least. Okay. Yeah. So in those in those final four games, he had six, seven, six, four and three of those. ZANDER's. Plan. Okay. So the Philadelphia Eagles will go with bosses skied and who are you going to start if you're a fantasy manager, you're gonNA, go boss Scott over whom both Brown's guys. Nick Job N. Kareem Hunt K Jonathan Taylor I don't know if that's a big price I'm trying to the Mac I got asked that I said Mac I would start Mac. Yes. I Max got such an easy match up but it's that's the range where he mustered I would start Scott. Kenyan. Drake got. Levy on bell got. Sean Jackson. Scott. How about Odell Beckham Scott What do you think about Corey Client Cork. I know you picked him up in an IEP league that's got twenty seven roster spots. Fourteen League Sixteen Team League. That's the type of move for Corey comment because. I think they. They seem to trust Boston. Got You know this is what we talked about a lot. You know I. I know when Ben Graduates with us he was he was hammering this point home as well. It's just you're looking at a guy that's in a good situation that has. The ability to catch the ball back for those you alluded to. So I think he's going to have a pretty big you know and hopefully model sanders back to. But this is troubling the fact that he can't get on the field for week one after he was, you know we've been running up the flagpole as no superstar and Now. It's it's it's frustrating. This is the downside of when you buy into a player early and they don't play the only thing I want to say about Boston Scott really it's about Corey Clement and. Boss is like five foot six. So I'm just wondering if they really would trust them for a full workload or if he's definitely the passing downs guy and maybe gets a pretty even share of the carries with Corey climate. I think the giants game now forget about the production the giants game in week fourteen is probably what you're looking at ten carries. Six catches. So let's say it's twelve carries and four catches. So somewhere in the neighborhood of Sixteen told touches. Is probably where he's GonNa live. That's fine. So what does that leave for Clement just just deep league stuff? You're saying I, mean probably six or seven carries in two or three cats. All right fair enough. But in that giants game, that's what he did. He averaged five point nine yards per carry and he averaged eleven point five yards per catch. You know. So for the record and the second giant's game average, two point eight yards per carry. That was the other with extended work. Yes I'm really. Goes because he is so small that it's Quite Ziegler didn't have a big problem five, foot six. You don't see a lot of rain bags like that. We'll see what kind of workload they give them. Also see how tough of matchup it is your last year it was a great match up, but you look at the defensive line for Washington and should be pretty good. Either way is an exciting opportunity if you drafted boss scholarship over and over again, revamped offensive line for the eagles to moving guys around Jason Peters is going to go back tackle right guard. So things are in flux. Okay. deebo Samuel out for at least three weeks on I are. Any reaction there. We'll find out at Brandon is going to be active. That's the key part of this but I think if you're in deeper leagues, go take a look at Kendrick born and Trent Taylor. Those guys, I get a boost. If you've doesn't play, you know they're just not going to throw to kill and and the running backs all day long we're gonNA find out I guess at the time that we're recording this as far as I know, the game is still in San Francisco on Sunday there wasn't talking about maybe moving the Game Tarazona on Monday. because. Of the fires that are happening on the West. coast. And infecting the the San Francisco area, the bay area As a result owners bring this up Tevin Coleman because of his sickle cell trait. Yeah. They said there's a chance he may not play if he does not play Jerick McKinnon because the receiver injuries becomes a little bit more of a factor. So if you're stuck with the Scott, I'm sitting sanders injury and jerk McKinnon's out there. That's guy you can look into deeper league again you know we're not talking about no most ten and twelve team leagues but anything larger than that. That's something you should keep an eye on but if there is no Samuel as we're aware now and now you've does not play deeper leagues I would look at born before Taylor. Trent Taylor a lot as well. So both those guys would certainly be in play for for the forty nine and I know on Friday show you were talking about Garoppolo he can't be trusted. You know without receivers. So Mr Moore to quarterback league and anything else. Okay Jamie finally Portland side and we're waiting. It's going to be a game time decision but he's Monday night and he's the second Monday night game. Yeah. So what do you do if you have Cortlandt Sutton? Well if you WANNA, wait it out if you're stuck. I would go look at James Washington who plays in the first Monday night game I would look if you're desperate Corey Davis Adam Humphreys who play in the first Monday night game Jay's Klay Pool Second Monday game. I'm sorry Davis examining. guys who play Monday night you know. So if you are, if you try to wait this out even a step further deeper leagues, Tim Patrick and Day Sean Hamilton just because those guys who play if play more if his out but you know the hope is week one you have some. Replacement options I tweeted on Friday some guys not just for Sutton, but also for Golladay Evans who are waiting to find out their status but. you know starts with Anthony Miller. WHO's sixty percent rostered on CBS sports dot Com Leagues, and include guys like Stevenson's Van Jefferson. I'm trying to think of the whole list of guys. I put out there. Stevenson's Van Jefferson Scott Miller. These are the replacement options your yours Campbell I know someone you mentioned heiress Campbell's on their Michael Pittman in the same game you know these are guys that are available of viscous office is you know a good one and has some long-term repeal? So You know I I would personally I try and be cautious with it. You know I know they upgraded Evans. By the time you're listening to this. You probably know Evans was upgraded to questionable from doubtful. So there's a chance he may play, but I think at this point, you gotta assume that Nogal Golladay no Evans no sutton. In sons the one that you have to really manage the most because the Monday making. All? Right. Well, I'm going to have to figure out what I'm doing the rest of the day. And it's basically going to be going to be determining what to do with all this extra fancy money I have. Smile Sanders is out Boston Scott is in and I am going to upgrade somewhere else. Drafted Sanders Evans and Golladay or Sanders and one of those guys and Sutton how you feel right now. Very, realistic scenario to like round round one sanders round three one of those two wide receivers around four or five maybe Portland Sutton. Yeah that would. Stink who Boston's Scott Forty seven hundred. Freeplay he's he's the free space yeah I got so much. Playing, but sometimes, you just get, you gotta do it. I. Think I'm GonNa maybe a little. McCaffrey. In here now all right that's Jamie Eisenberg. Thanks so much listen. We're going to have an episode of fantasy football today in five. We're now recording overnight we're GONNA record it at about eight in the morning get it out to you at about eight. Thirty A. M. Eastern also make sure you're watching CBS SPORTS HQ at ten Am Eastern and twitch eleven thirty am eastern until until twelve thirty had he get h you have you have the CBS Sports App on your phone you can watch it there. But if you want to download the CBS sports H. Q. APP on your Apple TV Roku Amazon fire. Wherever you watch her APPS. That's a great way to watch CBS SPORTS HQ and twitch. TWITCH DOT COM slash F F today thank you, Jamie. Thank you talked to your morrow. Right. Week one.

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Niners Nate-tion: How Jaquiski Tartt's return helps the defense + What to do at slot WR

Niners Nation

57:06 min | Last month

Niners Nate-tion: How Jaquiski Tartt's return helps the defense + What to do at slot WR

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So we don't have to worry about you giving me the virus and our special guests. This week is jordan of forty niners gold. Mine how you doing man. I'm doing pretty good. Of course we have a lot to talk about. You know the niners pretty much came out and they said you know what we're going back and that's exactly what they did you know. They went out and free agency with that mindset. I think they replaced positions that they needed to replace or enhance a little bit. But for the most part you know they took care of what needs to be taken care of specifically even today where they went out and got your cross. Ktar signed him to a one year deal in the secondary is looking set minus nickel corner and i mean if their plan is to run it back with a rookie quarterback or even jimmy garoppolo. They've pretty much succeeded in that being the plan. Going into twenty twenty one. Yeah i would definitely say so on and something that they should be content with because you take into account all the injuries they had last year all the issues they had to deal with covid related stuff and not having the normal weeks of practice and preparation and all contributing factors that went into a very strange year. Obviously losing the best player on the defense but the whole team in my opinion nick bosa Not really having a viable address. Outside of eric armstead all season kerry hyder was phenomenal. But we're talking. We're talking with truly elite above average players You know it really was kinda armstead on his own and they still top five defense so you start bringing back these pieces. You hope that last year was just kind of an anomaly in terms of the barrage of catastrophic injuries. And yeah absolutely it's a. It's a defensive unit that's been taught five unit for two years in a row and it's just one of those situations where hey if it's not broke. Don't fix it may might change out a couple pieces here and there obviously came on. Williams is the one guy. That's really not you know that's still kind out there. That's not back yet that we would assume would be a sherman. I think everybody kind of accepted that he probably wouldn't be coming back but you never know. He's still not signed. There's an avenue where he does come back on a shorter one year. Deal or something like that. But i'm very happy that they did keep the band together in a way because that defense is very strong and especially signing tar. Today was huge because him in ward together when they're on the field at the same time are a in my opinion easily top-five undisputed safety duo on the league. And they just give the defense so much more versatility rain on the back end. I saw hart said something about how he's excited. He's going to probably be bulletin. More to and to me go ryan scheme. I think they're going to get a little bit more diverse with their fronts in their defensive shells priests Give a little bit more exotic looks and stuff. So yeah i i just i just comes down to. You've had success with this group for the most part for the last two seasons if you can retain them. You're going to do it. You can't do that in the forty niners office. Our front office did a very good job of not overspending to do that. Getting these guys back on a good value while still maintaining the key pieces that you're gonna need and giving yourself the flexibility to extend the nerve centre that defense in front warner whether that's this offseason are coming up next year. They're going to have to do it soon. And i think they've left themselves very good position to do so. Yeah i think it's great to mention the front office and they have looked into this offseason because the only guy that they re signed prior to free agency. That was a unrestricted was colleagues. Check they let jason for at play the market. He did that he came back. They let trent williams play the market. He said that he came back. And they even up the ante to make sure that they brought in trent williams and then same thing would jakubowski tara. I think he was one of those guys that we overlooked as far as someone. Who's going to be back with this team. Someone that we were saying. Oh they need a resigned his guy or even having tar in our top three must resigns a lot of it was like kay juan trent williams us check or verani those work probably the consensus four. That was always someone's top three but with heart from two thousand and nineteen in two thousand twenty. He had a sub fifty percent. Completion percentage against gave up two touchdowns got an i. N. t. and a sub seventy passer rating against and then when he was not on the field and there was somebody else playing at his spot gave up fifty nine percent completion seven touchdowns zero interceptions and one hundred and thirty two point five nine quarterback rating against So also the numbers are cool. That part of the game is cool. Yeah tar is is a hell of a lot better when he does defense has him on the field but also. I believe this was kyle. Posey tweeted this out today of niners nation. That bread warner was mentioning a play. That tar told him pre-snap that hey this is what the new york giants are going to run here. Keep your eye on it. Will that same exact play warner. Listen to him and he was able to get an interception because of what tort saw pre-snap same thing. Jason upon t forty niners goldmine sprint. Right option podcasts Had the killer witherspoon to where he saw pre-snap against this was two thousand. Nineteen in cincinnati. Told kill oh what this receivers in ado and a kilo listened. Unfortunately he dropped. The i n t which would have been a pick six but even those he he doesn't have those jerk. Whiskey doesn't have those plays in his hands or doesn't go on his stats. It shouldn't go understated from his smarts of game to where he's able to hope fried warner get a pick sick or not a pick six interception and help to kill a weatherspoon get a potential pick six so when you have younger guys out there on the field. They're probably not going to have that smart football. Iq compared to tar day. One you get the secondary showed up and the thing. Is you know we get another year we can. We have the starters. You have jimmy ward. You have to ktar and you still have marcel harrison to various more to be your backup guys. Should there be any injuries and keeps that safety position with a good amount of depth keeping on the defense. Let's talk a little bit about the corner situation. I think this is a little interesting. I mean i. I'll start with you jordan. Yes they got annual moseley back. I love emmanuel's. He's not like an elite corner anything but he's a decent corner and you got jason back on a one year deal but you have no nickel corner and the corner. Depths is still questions. I mean what do you think about that heading into this draft up here. Will there was ever a draft. Have issues are or a need at nickel corner. This is definitely the one. Because there's a lotta guys that you could slot into that role and could come in from day. One i've been pretty vocal on twitter. And a couple of rafts i've done forty-nine goldmine that the guy i like the most to fill that role is allies enrolled in washington. Statistically he's been pretty much the best slot corner in college football. The last two seasons tremendous player. Great instincts good ball skills very dependable I've compared him a lot to jimmy ward. Actually physically he matches up very well with jimmy. If you compare the two almost the same height almost the same way. Both very versatile both could wind up in the slot. One play but maybe you rotate one to the third of the field. The play that safety spot you have them up to high. Look just somebody. That could be very versatile. I know a lot of people really like asante samuel junior. I really like mold and more to be honest but you know it's not something that i am you know. I'm not saying that. I don't think he's going to be good. I just like molin a lot better. And then in the back end you have guys like thomas graham coming out of oregon and a couple guys that you can take maybe in that back into the draft that you might not feel as comfortable starting day one but if you could bring back caitlyn williams One year deal you then have a session plan I just think it's that's to me. The only thing that i think is the monumental you know pressing need really for the team and i wouldn't even label that if i had to pick one because in this modern nfl the nickel defense essentially the based events for most teens. You're generally running it. Fifty five sixty percent of the time with the way. The offense is thrown out so that slot corner rule. That may have been a luxury a few years ago or a specialist role is basically base defense role. At this point. You're going to be team. Should be more willing to invest more draft capital into that position. Just because of how often it's going to be on the field so for me. The niners picking up forty three. They might move back from twelve. Maybe they move up and they don't have forty three but as things stand now if they're picking up forty-three in molins on the board. I'm running to the podium with that card. Because i think he's slots in just tremendously with that secondary. And then you might be able to have a look where you bring tart down in closer to the box where we know he can thrive. And then you're rotating Back up to the top and having ward rotate. Over to tart spot. It just gives d'amico ryan's a lot more flexibility. When you have a guy who not only can excel in that slot corner role but you can move him your secondary to and i think that we have seen Spurts from emmanuel moseley. That make the deal. He signed very intriguing as well because again. he's not. Nobody's out here saying he's a leash lockdown cornerback. But he's been more than capable. And i think that one thing that really stood out to me was john lynch. Talk about how. This is how we wanted develop players. We wanna bring these guys in hit on these late round undrafted guys and develop them in our system and then retain them because we're putting the resources into develop these guys coming out. We wanna make sure that once. They're hitting their prime ended in their stride. They're going to be doing it in red and gold and not having other teams use them as farm system essentially so i think that that retaining a manual largely is very key. 'cause while people may not think again that you some you know superstar player when you're putting the resources into developed guys another teams going to get benefit from the fruits of your labor which will see probably in new england where i think kendrick bourne. We'll have a good amount of success. For the forty. Niners broaden an undrafted guy and they development in their and then another team's going to capitalize on what they did so. I think that that's linda wash for what the niners to when they are signing late round is bringing in these undrafted guys when they find the guy that they really believe is going to accelerate system. I think you'll see that they'll make more of an effort to retain them because you could argue that the contract he signed might be a little steep but i think that the forty nine hundred betting on the potential knowing what they've seen from him in their system on the practice field entering games i think it should also be stated that emmanuel moseley only has seventeen starts in his career and he still has not reached. Its potential in my mind. There's still room for him to grow. So yeah he may have got this this contract now war. It's premature compared to someone in the second round where they're going to have at least four years of production compared to moseley as about two because his first year he was a. I think he only had special team snaps he. He took zero snaps in two thousand eighteen from a defensive perspective but the guy has seventeenth starts. There's room to grow. I personally like him a little more on the outside than the nickel Because i haven't really seen him play nickel in a game to where he's blitzing say seven eight like hey one williams was able to so i'm not sure i like him on the outside because i think he is smart when it comes to say you're having your outside receiver breaking in on a dig. He's able to to break on that and use his instincts. He did that against carolina. Panthers got an interception and he did that. Same thing in the nfc championship game on allen lazard who is the outside receiver and picked off. Aaron rodgers which aaron rodgers is known to be a guy to turn over the ball frequently So i think that kids. He's very very smart in his own schemes. He does obviously have work to do in man because when you look at who who is playing in his division as far as outside receivers it's deandre hopkins decay metcalfe and then. You don't wanna overlook robert woods the rams. That's six of his games every single season so i think he can potentially get to to me. He's a already a quarterback to the nfl. I think he could possibly to the top ten. It might be a little bit of reach. He could potentially get to a top five cornerback to in the league. If if john lynch and these guys have confidence in these guys you know it kind of shows you know. They're willing to sign a manual moseley. They're willing to sign gerrad. Get them done. And let k one walk and yet i love k. One but i. I had a conversation with someone or someone mentioned it to me earlier. that you know when they got k. One from the browns you know he came in cheap and you know they aren't going to get that kind of discount again. I think he probably ends up going to kansas city in get paid a lot and so you know we are talking about jordan with molten. Bring him in. You know you're not paying a lot for that nickel corner spot and you're still have iran and you could probably extend them next year if he continues to be that quarterback one that cornerback one that we hope he is. And so you know it feels like when you look at this defense. It's pretty solidified. Fred warner dre greenlaw. You know they stay wheat last week. We talked to jim taylor. He said he loves. They love these al-shahr year. You know. And i think that they've pretty much said you know that probably going to play for plays. And so what do you think of have you cam jordan. What do you think of this signing. And what do you think. It does for ordinary pass rush. That is so important to you. Know leading these. You know the the secondary to get you know. Get after it and do what they did. Two thousand nineteen. I think they needed more of a natural speed guy that Vacate that spot. That ford is in. I think that's why. This long trade for kevin willis last year. They were just like you know. Bang on this guy. He has uploaded upside in your. There's a couple of games reaction Flashing that's something. That's the beauty of this defensive line scheme that on the douro not wide nine it really does put is in a position. Where if you're athletic enough and you want it bad enough. You're going to be putting spots to succeed. I think dots were getting a guy. Like ethicon is very appealing because he has so much raw athletic ability. And he's just you know two hundred fifty pound guy who has the speed and natural bend around the edge very very strong with that bull rush to so if you can get with a guy like kosarac and get him where he's working on you know. Footwork hands small little tweaks bending angles. Little things that you know. Costa rica's build his reputation. The league for is one of the premier defensive line coaches. it puts you in a position where you're going to be able to maximize on a guy who again has the athletic trades. But maybe not wasn't in the best position l. a. was running the essentially been three four for most of the time they're based defense and then when the running They're nichols stuff. It's not quite the same as what the niners are running. So i don't think it's his appeal into a guy like that whereas in this situation now you're slotting him into a spot where he's going to be opposite of arms von kinlaw inside eating up those interior blockers. You're probably going to get him. One on one with the tackle a lot of times and i think it's a situation where it's just really friendly deal. Where does two things it gives them the insurance to have a guy opposite bozo. Were on you know. a best case scenario. He's totally healthy. They're all helping dominating with those four on the line and it also gives you a scenario where. Hey maybe there's an educator you really like the draft. Maybe they really liked what he pay. Maybe they really like my guys. Use those larry. Maybe there's somebody that they really like in that draft for the naked slot him into and then all of a sudden. You have a rotation of guys that are just freak athletes on the edge that are then able to dominate the opposing offense of lines and wear them down over and over again. Because they're going up. You know offensive lines don't rotate on. You're going up against the guy and you're fifty sixty snaps deep into a game. They're throwing out wave after. Wave of ed rusher. It's gonna take it's toll on you and that's one thing i think we get so lost in sometimes because the forty niners were so good in two thousand nineteen with armstead and boza and buckner and ford that we forget that the you know ronald blair's and the solomon thomas is and some of these other guys on the second line. Do you don't dj jones jones. Yeah at some of these guys coming in really did replenish their ability to spare not sparingly but usually guys less frequently than they would have to and i think losing. Dj jones losing. Ronald player. Really did end up hurting them. And that's where we saw unfortunately in that end of the super bowl in super bowl fifty four. That defensive line skype gas up you can only chase around For so long. And i think having that kind of depth at d. line is something that you can't really put a price on but if you were going to put a price on it. The forty niners came away with a bargain because they do have him under control for two years. And it's a situation. Where if he is. Starting in that deformed role is coming in on passing downs. And he's you know breaking up seven eight sacks even if it's just cleaning up on the other end after bose's pushing the pocket or You're getting great value. But you're also in a position where you can add another edge piece. Because you're not so hamstrung will overpaying. The sky fifteen sixteen million dollars year like bud dupree Great complimentary pass rusher in pittsburgh. He got massively overpaid in my opinion. And i'm never gonna knock a player for taking the money that has worked for you know tails off to earn it. But that's a situation where i'm glad. The forty niners didn't go overboard. Sign a guy. Like that where you're overpaying when you really just need a competent athlete opposite nick bosa because nick those are so good because armstead in believe we're gonna be such a dominant force on the earier totally. I mean yeah leo the specifically with you like what do you think defense that are creating will. This is the thing i like with. Com- is that key could actually play some sam linebacker if they want so. If this team is up say two scores in a game and they just wanna blitz the crap out of this team and just give them more. Exotic looks from a pass rushing perspective. Maybe ed become doesn't have the coming in blitz and maybe dropped to a flatter play some type zone or play some type of man in his career. he's never had a passer rating against in the eighties. It's always been below that he someone who has an interception in his career he's never gave up. Completion percentage against above sixty five. So he has that kind of the swiss army knife to where he could play the speed. Rusher off the edge but he could also drop back in. Coverage of this team is up in the fourth quarter. You could provide those more exotic looks if you somehow get d ford To play some type of snaps this season or say if it's a guy that comes from this draft class or jordan willis takes another step if if they decide to bring him back to where you have yukon. Nick boza tavon kinlaw eric armstead and maybe even say another edge. Rusher out there on the field at the same exact time. And that's gonna make it a lot harder for tom. Brady's for the for the aaron rodgers and you'd figure those two are the other two teams in at the top of the nfc picture as well as for russell wilson Because abby concha place some spy he he's got wheels. The guy's not slow so i just like that. He could be very very versatile for this defensive line for something they don't have. We talk about a become being that speed. Rusher like deformed will deform cannot drop in coverage like ebb yukon can he. He's not that at or just as gifted in pass coverage so he provides something to this defense that they've never had from pierre edge rusher support for this podcast comes from paypal. Small business owners. Turn your smartphone into a cash register pay pal. Qr codes or the safe and easy way to get paid in store and they deliver the same security and trust pay pal is known for online in person. Even if you're a cash only business with paypal. Qr codes you can accept credit or debit with everyday low fees. 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I still have kittle. It's looking like you know. And now the banks are most and jeff wilson which it should have been last year and then you're offensive line now. I think it's solidified. Trent williams alex mack maggots center. You still got lake and tomlinson. And i think brun skill is going to be a decent guard if it gets to stay at guard for the rest of the season. I don't hate mike mcglinchey which is still the craziest thing on twitter for people for people. Because i think he's still decent. I think he does what they wanna do. And the thing is first and foremost the forty niners are gonna run the ball. That's what they want to do. They're going to run the ball on people. So the one question. I think on offense before we get to the biggest question mark which we will talk about because it's the niners nation podcast and we always talked quarterback here as you know this third wide receiver spot. What do you think they do at this third wide receiver spot for this coming season. I think they should go. Get danny amendola. That's even if jimmy garoppolo's your quarterback danny amendola. He played x amount of years with patriots. Jimmy garoppolo paid x. Amount of years with the patriots They're they're familiar with each other and he could give the wider so that third wide receiver that slot receiver role. That we all wanna trent taylor to be But the difference is danny. Amendola has been that in his career. When i don't remember the exact percentages By his drop percentage compared to say kendrick bourne since kendrick bourne was the third wide receiver last year and the years prior is significantly. Better from someone who gets targeted and it hits them in the hands and he's not gonna drop it as much. That's not kendrick bourne slender. Because i'm i really really really like kendrick bourne but i think danny amendola provide something for this team that they always wanted to have in. Trent taylor they never got it. Out of trent taylor. At least they never got it For half a season they may have got it for about one game which chicago bears game in two thousand seventeen. I think you had like seven catchers or something like that so they may have gotten one game but they can get it. Potentially for a whole season with danny amendola. And that's something. I would like to to see especially if jimmy garoppolo's the quarterback we already know it's going to be intermediate over the middle and that's where amendola going to be a specialist at and it's not sexy. It's not sexy. I wouldn't have said coming into this. Offseason banging the table for danny amendola. But i'm just seeing where this offense is being constructed now seeing pieces drop and seen. Who's still out there. And he's the guy who still ball so why not at this point jordan. How do you feel about his third wide receiver spot or the other wide receiver spots. That aren't deebo in the main thing that needs to be taken into account the forty niners just from a scheme perspective don't necessarily need that third wide receiver as much as a lot of other teams. Do like the rams or running eleven personnel. The running up three hundred zero on early downs quite frequently of for them getting a third wide. Receiver is much larger pirated than the forty niners to win a lot. More twenty one twenty two personnel looks and especially with the resigning. Kyle you you can account forty to fifty percent of the time he's going to be on the field and you're going to be in more. You know i formation heavy run sets or at least give the appearance of that. Or you're gonna run the play off of that so i i listen like veteran dialogue game dole. That'd be cool. Beat brigham in on third downs or sky was just knows how to get open knows how to find soft spots in the defensive zone coverage Just a concert pro knows how to play. The games won a super bowl. Obviously has the familiarity with emc even if it was quite a while ago when he was with the rams So it's something like that especially in this year with all these deals that are so cheap. It's such a low risk signing that. I'd be okay with it I also think there's a lot of avenues. They could go in the draft If they were to not go corner with that second round pick You know a guy. I really like a live. Moore's air forty-three. I would love him. I think he would be perfect for a slot role in the nfl. What i also think that he would excel with a guy. Like kyle shanahan. That would be able to get on the ball in space You know. I really like a few of these got you know. There's five or six guys that are really liked the browns and other guy really like i'm not saying he necessarily it would be the a slot receiver but he's another guy that would give them a deep downfield deep threat that i don't think they have now and he's somebody who i think is free athlete. Who would do very well in a system where he's going to be getting the ball in creative ways And that's no disrespect to north carolina. How they've been running their offense. I just think that we didn't get to see how good he really is. And i know. Kyle's friend chris. Simms is very high on him as well So you know that's something. I think maybe to keep an eye on somebody going late second early third round the forty niners do move back. Many of their other picks they do really have options. The the main thing are. I can talk about the draft for hours. The main the bulk of his talent is in the second and third rounds. If you really wanna find a guy that can come in day one and be at third wide receiver. That's to contribute that. You could count on to get you five hundred yards and fifty catches so i would. I would like to see them do it through the draft because ultimately what it does is it gives you insurance if deebo gets hurt like deboer to go down and have a guy like allies more yet. He's not going to be like you know the same exact quite. We're running through ten guys at a time because he's just such an 'nigma like he's such a you know one of a kind unicorn type of player but he can run a lot of that motion pre-snap he can run a lotta. That short area plays that are yak oriented were designing at the guy in space and gain yards after the catch at italy. What it does to this conversation. I hope that they don't have to have a hope. They can retain them. But if you're down the road and you're having extend all these players and they look at a situation where maybe divas price themselves out of a second contract with the forty niners then you have a succession plan. That could come in and step in and you still have him on a rookie deal for at least three more seasons and again i would love to keep you. I'm not saying that they shouldn't resign depot. I'm saying that ultimately you do have to make business decisions. I wonder construct a roster the second wide receiver spot while it is important. There are a lot of other positions before it. So you know. If i had to pick i would go through the draft. Personally i but i'm not opposed at all leo's proposing and i think that there are benefits to both sides. Like you know you're getting the financial flexibility long-term with the rookie but you're also having to deal with the learning curve of moving to the nfl and there is something to be said for getting a veteran that could come in and absorbed playbook absorbed verbiage probably be able to contribute right away especially if it is a guy who has had the injury is treason in is getting a little bit older. When you're only having him come out for specific third down passing situations maybe short yardage stuff. It's not asking too much. That's gonna tax a guy that might be on the ladder you know stages kind of riding off into the sunset in a way So i would be totally okay with that. I just think that they do need to address it in some form. Because i don't see anybody on the roster now where i would feel great about them getting significant snaps one other guy just to watch. I do like rivercraft. I think that creek craft has the ability to contribute. I'm not saying that he should get the that third wide receiver role but he has a smooth route runner. And i think he's somebody that could kind of be that fourth fifth option. That may be worked his way up to getting third wide receiver snaps I just i wouldn't feel great about what they have now. I don't think anybody's terrible. But i think that the earnest they need to upgrade a little bit. So you're talking about. You could talk about traffic hours. The financial flexibility you get with having a retaining guy And you talked about forty niners running and a lot of twelve personnel. Which is one running back to tight ends or to personnel fullback. Running back to tight ends. I'm going to propose this to you. The option four or the option against kyle pits tight. End florida. Oh i would absolutely do it. If he's there at twelve hours pull the trigger. Don't no doubt about it and that's one for me especially if they're sticking with jimmy garoppolo i would. I would do whatever i can to give him. More weapons give more opportunity to succeed and just thinking about the too tight end. Looks like i know that Kyle takes a lot of inspiration. From what new england's done over the years and thinking back to when they had aaron hernandez and rob gronkowski and how much of a headache at 'cause opposing defenses. I would love a scenario. Where kyle comes in the beauty of kyle pits Making out like. He's just a terrible run blogger. He's not running people over the way kittle is. He's probably not this road grading run blocking tight. End that you know you. You would hope for but he's also a receiver that's dynamic weapon in a way that i don't think the forty niners had on the team in a long time and that's no disrespect to anybody who's on the team now. It's just this cow six foot six he runs in the four five reportedly has insane ball skills really good at high pointing really good at just having the spatial awareness when his battling one on one down fueled with guys and what it does is it gives the forty niners situation where. I think that we've done so custom to seeing them dominate. Because kyle so good at getting guys in space that in my opinion there isn't a guy that really is the stud red zone weapon that you can throw up a fifty fifty all can throw a fade to. You can throw these balls. Just hey go up and get it. And i think it was proven he can do it. I mean they can do if. There's not a guy where that's really just our bread and butter in their specialty. So if you brought pits in it would give you a dynamic weapon that would just be insane and you're looking at formation where you have either deebo or a you got wide. You have kittle. In pits on the field of checking that most wilson over the running back is and as a defense. You're probably very upset because you have no idea if they're gonna run it. You have no idea for gonna play action. You have no idea. It's going to dial up quicken the Just gives them show me auctions. And he's such a unique player. Generally speaking tight ends. That early is usually a reach microphone. Pf is a guy who are really liked his draft analysis and he had a really good point about most tight ends aren't going to be a elite coverage corners or safety is one on one in manned situations which is why they're valued diminishes a bit and we've seen the playoffs side immediately. Kill running that out on. Ifan gilmore last year who was arraigned supplier. The year and you know pitches done it at the collegiate level so imagine too tight ends only one ones rare for most teams having to tight ends that even if other teams throw a really good cover safety or they throw like the rams throw jalen ramsey at them. Who are they gonna throw it for planning rams choice here. Who are they going to throw at. You have pets you have kill you. Have you have deebo samuel. You're going to have to pick one of them. And you know ramsey's probably gonna lockdown every ends up on but that leaves three other guys that are going to be running roughshod all over the place. So i would be all for it. I don't wanna rambo baucau pits. Because he's one of my airport. Rabbi could talk for hours but i yes i would. I would be sprinting to the podium with his name on the card if you still there at twelve okay so earlier today. It was reported that he ran a four four six. And that's at six foot. Six two hundred and forty pounds for four six insane. And that's that's absurd speed and the thing is to with him as he has such a good balance in such good again like spatial awareness and knowing how to stay here a lot of line fades florida this year and his ability to stay in balance and stay balance and keep his hip square and turn to the ball and highpoint. Like there's a lot to light there again. Most of the time. I would say that it really need a second tried on that bad. A guy later in the draft. But i look at hits kind of like i. I've been preaching this this theory of positions football which i think you know the forty niners have been kind of ahead of the curve More so than most teams like a lot of people look at deebo samuel while he's a wide receiver on the depth chart. He does a lot of things that are running back. As well kills a tight end. He does a lot of things after the catch. Where you're not. You're not pigeonholing these guys into traditional positional loads and if you had an entire offense of guys like you can talk. How pits in the backfield. Were call. Trek is and have him run running outside of the you know with a hand in the ground and i formation like. There's just so much that you can do and when you have a coach kyle shanahan you. You are going to get great results from even with the bare minimum. But if you give him a you know full coverage of weapons to use it just to me it makes it so much. It's very intriguing to think of what he could possibly do with that and again my whole thing is that if you're saying with jimmy garoppolo you give him a better chance to succeed. The more weapons you add and you'd be foolish to ignore that especially with the way that they have addressed the defense again. Maybe there's a guy that they really liked there and i always find with addressing premium position like edge. But if jimmy's your guy you have to do whatever it takes to give him more of an opportunity to succeed. And i don't see a scenario where there's a player at twelve that's gonna that's gonna help jimmy garoppolo directly considering they have the offensive line. Pretty much shored up now. Other than i would say offensive line other than that with bring back front williams which again it should deserve. A lot of credit for a lot of teams made a big push for him They've done a really good job of putting themselves in a situation where you could take a pits at twelve and not oh. They reached for the you know the sexy picker whatever. They took a guy that really can help team and be an integral part of their future. And you know we talk about this draft. I think that you just hit the nail on the head like there's a specific position they need to pick in this draft but i think if they took pits would be the only reason i think that's the only pick because i think personally i think you'd think is as well. Kyle is the best receiving threat in this entire draft. I think that it's not really a question. I don't think that's hot take. It's clear that he's the best receiving you know threat in this entire draft. And if they took him and they ran it back with jimmy. I think that's the only way. I would be okay with running it back with jimmy at this point just because it feels like when you have a team that has this two year window now. 'cause they're basically in a two year win it now window and so you know. Ideally there was a quarterback that you could have gotten you know in matthew stafford where you're going to the super bowl this year but right now. It's looking like rookie. Quarterback would be your option. So if you're stuck at twelve and quarterback's probably what you have to go here. You know because i don't think they wanna run it back which i think the idea of trading jimmy are getting jimmy off the rosser would allow them to get that money back where they could extend fred warner they could extend both enter and keep these guys there guys because just like jomar said last week. They're very much a team that wants to keep their guys on their roster and they've shown that every since cal over they've wanted these guys back they want they want warner back. They want those guys so now we get to this idea that jimmy was never kyle or john's guy. Maybe maybe it was an opportunity when you get caught by freaking bill belichick and he says hey. I got a quarterback for you for a second round pick. You don't say no to that. And so now we've we've talked so much about this jimmy experiment and everything that went down over the last couple of years. You know we'd get to this draft and now you have no clear need like no clear like overwhelming. Need that you need. You know you can do best player available. Which i think is kyle pits. I think he is the best player on the Bar none i think. He's better than any of the quarterback. Even i think he's gonna have a better career. But we talk about these quarterbacks. Would you be okay with taking mack jones at twelve. Yeah i would be okay with that in my thinking behind that is i think that jones could do a lot of what jimmy garoppolo does now. Obviously it's gonna come at a much cheaper price. I do think that he does on. It's hard to project because it is college. We're not we haven't seen him make the throws the nfl. Jim's made but i do think that there's the potential that he could add a little bit more to the offense throwing outside the numbers during downfield a little bit more but what it really does is it. Creates a window where you're going to be able to have extreme financial flexibility for the next five seasons Extremely for the first fifth year option zero get are getting a little steep but the first four years especially. You're getting a guy that's going to be very friendly and with it's gonna do is. It's going to allow you to tender bigger contracts to nick. Bosa to fred warner eventually to brandon. I maybe to a deebo samuel and it's going to allow them to retain a lot of the other key pieces like you've seen them do this year but you can do that actually moving forward in a year where it's going to be back towards the semi normal cap and the paydays might be bigger. You can afford to compete with other teams in. Bring your guys back because you have that kind of flexibility or you could bring outside pieces to help your team old. Which is having a quarterback on the rookie. Builders opens up so many things and while. I don't think it's fair to say that mack jones is better right now. The garoppolo because once played significant a decent amount of snaps in the nfl and the other hasn't taken any. I could definitely see a path or you're coming in and drop off in play isn't so steep that it's going to hinder you from wanting the financial flexibility moving forward towards a move this year. There aren't really many players especially now that they locked up trent williams. These other deals on a play around like they have to cut. Jimmy's they can sign this guy. But the next couple seasons. I think it definitely gives them the flexibility to retain a lot of those pieces than the other dot is a lot of people want traffic and have him sit. And if you're doing that with amid round prospect that's totally fine. I get it you know acclimating to the. Nfl can be very tough. But if you're spending first round pick on a guy especially in the modern. Nfl the way that the cubes are protected. The way that you can simplify offenses. I just think that you have to plan on having that guy start from day. One if you're taking at the very least have a plan midway through the season or something There's just no reason to waste a year of that rookie bill to have them sit especially in. Kyle's offense for you can keep you have a certain section of the playbook that rookie could come in and run from day. One especially with the running game is in the defense and all the other pieces around. So yeah i would. I would be totally happy taking jones at twelve. If that's the route they wanted to go. That would just obviously in my opinion have to signal the end of jimmy garoppolo because it makes no sense to happen both on the roster Especially if you're using capital that's not high on a quarterback you have to have that plan that he would the week one starter. If you go that route. I mean yeah. That's the thing is like me. And leo said a million times and leo. Ask us questions like you know. Yes they can spend more capital and trade down and go get get justin fields or you know maybe even zach wilson or trey lance but from what it feels like it just feels like mac. Jones's that guy who you can take you know maybe you won't have to down and get him at twelve or you can trade down less. Pay less and keep more assets to continue to replenish your roster while you. You're in this window. This wind now window you know. It just feels like mac. Jones is the smart forty. Niners hick at twelve leo knocking ally jordan was selling me on the kyle pits idea Where how could jimmy garoppolo not succeed with that offensive line talking about williams Tomlinson alex mack. Who's a niner. Now mike mcglinchey is a solid run blocker and then thinking about the receivers with i. You d bill. Kittle pits used. Check most as a running back. Like i think they could put up thirty points a game. Twenty eight points a game Especially with kyle shanahan calling plays. That would be the main reason. Why but this is where. I would have trouble with it when when building a team. This is how i view when it team you gotta build for now but you also gotta build for year two year three year. Four and year five New go all in now. You're more likely to repress the reset button maybe every three years or so And that's why. I look at it with if mack jones sitting there at twelve. You gotta take mac jones even if kyle sitting at twelve. You gotta go with mcdonald's because if you take opitz then you have this arsenal to where jimmy garoppolo is going to get this offense into the playoffs. They'll pablo day could definitely win. A few games in the playoffs potential even super bowl. Then who's gonna be the next quarterback you're going to get in the draft. The reason that your move on from jimmy g. is because you say some of these contracts warner bros Kittles contract goes up. Armstead contract goes up to twenty million. We're talking about a cab issue thing to where are they going to go. Spend money in the draft to re or excuse me spend money on free agency to replace. Are they going to spend money for in a trade market for guy that has a high cap hit. The smart move would be to draft someone. So mack jones would be the safer pick right now then kyle pits when talking about this year next year three years from now for years now five years from now because i i've stated this all the way back since october mack jones reminds me of of kirk cousins type of guy with the little bit of more upside because kirk cousins. Has that little kind of douche baggy ish type vibe to to where. It's just being weird to wear like his own locker room guys. Don't even buy into the quarterback and his very hard to win a championship. That way when guys are saying screw you To the starting quarterback a franchise quarterback that's taking forty million dollars of the cap hit so with that. That's where i believe. Jones could have more of an upside than kirk cousins. Because mac jones get hit those deep balls he can do a lot of what. Jimmy's doing now A lot that jimmy does now is kind of a pre snap decision of where he's in a throw the ball. He's not having a you know. Move to his third read or is secondary a lot of its pre snap decision. Yeah i'm gonna go to say deebo out wide. But i'm gonna hold the safety here so while you may see the stripe of my helmet turn. That was my pre snap. Decision is just. I'm holding the safety. And i know we're gonna be based off the chemistry that they built together so mack jones could do a lot of the same things to hold off the safety and then hit your ex receiver. Hit your wide receiver He can do a lot of that but most importantly to me what it would come down to. I think he has potential jordan's. It's it's unfair to say that you'd be better than jimmy say. Snap one or game five into his rookie season. But i think he does have that potential to where he he can go to re to and he definitely can air that while a lot more than jimmy can at the quarterback position. Yeah and you know the thing about jimmy. It feels like is. He has trouble reading the field. That's why he's had so many so much interception problems. And i think that's one thing that we had tim jenkins what a couple of weeks ago he specifically said like mac jones reads the feel better than any quarterback in the strat like. That's the thing and jordan when you think about mack jones and you think about what. Jimmy's you know problems are deficiencies are like does mack jones fill those deficiencies for kyle shanahan. We're not watching them on the sideline with his hands up going. Like what the hell are you doing with. you know. at least just what you've seen in college in the way that you know he can read the defense. I think the biggest thing is more so than the progressions in the reading the defense is just as pocket presence in his pocket awareness. I think that mack jones moves very well in the bar. Think honesty who's better than anybody else in the draft inside the actual pocket itself. I'm not talking about extending plays or evading rush surely maneuvering inside the pocket. Trevor lawrence is up there too. But i really believe that mack jones is the best when it comes to that. And that's something that i know. For a fact kyle does value because he said it till his blue in the face how important it is to be able to stand in while pockets collapsing around you handle. Nfl pass rushers nfl defensive lines at having the awareness to maneuver. That's when you'll see a lot with the huby collective stuff too. When he's doing his quarterback camps that he talks about how imperative it is to be able to move laterally as well as vertically while you're in the pocket and that's an area where mack jones people talk about. We had all these first round. Receivers offensive line is so good in alabama so loaded. They're still playing in the sec. And they're supplying a lot of really good teams. You want up against teams that were pressuring him and they did break through that offensive line. He just he had a lot of guts and charisma a lot that just kind of like it factor where. He not only had the awareness to evade the rush. He was stood in there and he made a lot of big time throws where he was really had a guy in his face that ended up putting him his back. We had a guy to step out of the way and then make a throw on motion. There's a lot of things that you look for in a quarterback where he's able to feel that pressure on the not only feel it but no where to go when to get rid of the ball a lot of the biggest problem i have rob lowe. Is that when the pockets clean. I have no doubt that he can execute on a clean pocket with a place teamed up. he's going to get the ball to the receiver most of the time. I don't doubt it can do that at all. The problem that i have is that it's not going to happen. Every single snap and the nfl ultimately there are going to be pleased. That decide games where you're going to need your quarterback to step in and make a big throw to evade ned rusher to stand in there and take a big hit when he throws the ball There are a couple of plays last year. We'll give him credit. You know the one that stands out to me. Is that rams game. The first one on that fourth. Into when he threw the touchdown to kittle. He threw a dart him in stride right on the money and he took forget the player on the rams was that laid him out he got absolutely was it. Okay i thought he got. He got laid out on that play. And you know what you look for in a quarterback and again we have to understand that. There's a lot of mental hoops that you have to jump through when Suffering injury as significant as tornado. seattle. So i think that it. The the biggest concern have jimmy. Is that when the pressure in the plane breaks down. I just don't see him as a guy that's gonna consistently be able to overcome that kind of adversity. I do think that jones's guy who could do that. So that's what. I would afford the reading the field and stuff. I think that there's a lot to be said really tough though too. Because unless we know the playbook and the progressions that they're assigned pre snap than we really don't know what they are looking at. We don't know if maybe there's an alert route that's built in or there's hot route is built in the biggest thing that i would say that i've heard from a lot of people who know far better than myself at studied. The niners offense that are versus stuff. That kyle has done a lot of stuff. He cuts field in half to make extremely easy for jimmy. Or boland's or badgered. Whoever's been in a quarterback so my thinking is to as you know even if mack jones did struggle a little bit. He wasn't reading the field the same way. he wasn't college. If you can cut the field than half or guy has been in the league for seven years. I could definitely do it for a rookie too. And if you're able to get those looks dialed up where you're getting opened is in space. Then you're going to be able to generate enough offense between that in the run game. I think to pull out games and i think just ultimately like when it comes down to is that i think back jones just hasn't it factor. That very few quarterbacks happened. That's on a direct dig jimmy garoppolo. That's just a a praise of jones. And how he just has this kind of innate ability to maneuver he's not an athletic. I'm sure you guys have seen the coalmine picture of me. Looks like tom brady at the combine. He looks like weighs one hundred seventy pounds soaking wet with a beer belly at the same time which is yeah itself. But he just he makes plays and that's the biggest thing for me. Is that one thing. I will say real quick when you're scouting players one of the biggest things. I think that people need to remind themselves. I try to do this with myself all the time. It's easy to get blown away with guys who are just athletic specimens freak athletes. And you know like wow. This guy runs a four three forty areas of forty five inch vertical. Jump like all these things that stand out but ultimately this isn't about being the best athlete it's about playing football and you have to have some baseline level of athletic ability. But you also need to have a really strong ability to play the sport football and what i'm saying is is. I would rather take a player mac jones. Who isn't this athletic free. That's going to you know. Throw it patrick. Mahomes throw in the super bowl where he's falling to the ground throwing a dart thirty yards downfield or like josh allen. Where he's throwing guys off him while he's thrown fifty yards down the field the digs. Those guys are great if you can get them. That's fine. But i would rather take my chances on a guy who i know is just consistently going to get the ball to the right spot. You're going to say. Hey i want you to go to this look pre-snap if this is gonna be your secondary tertiary reads and you can trust that while they may not have that crazy athletic ability. They're going to consistently get the ball to that spot repetitively. Which is what i think. Back jones is done so ultimately my point is i think mack jones. The football player is very good. While mac joan athlete may just kind of be averaged but that really good. Football skill matters tremendously. I think we're in an age where we're getting so blown away by these athletic specimens transition into quarterbacks that were forgetting that ultimately the most important skill you can have is to throw the ball accurately and be consistent with it and i think that mack jones was very good at doing that. It's an achievable goal. And that's the reason. I really wanted to talk about it specifically just like. It's an achievable thing. Like yeah like. I'd love to see justin fields. Zack wilson and niner jersey. But that's gonna be really hard because those guys are going to go top six top seven. Maybe even top three like you never know what might happen mack. Jones phone to twelve doesn't seem like a crazy thing to say like i. You know i love. Justin feels was twelve but it mack jones at twelve feels like the most feasible thing for what they've done here with free agency right leo. Yeah yeah i would. I would say so mack. Mack jones falling to twelve is potentially could happen. It's definitely the most likely out of the top five quarterbacks trevor lawrence is absolutely not falling outside of the top i pick So we'll we'll see it it just kind of one of those games where we gotta just wait and see what happens Whether if they did go with mcdonnell's that's my preference or kyle pits. I would be happy either way totally. Yeah i mean that's the thing is you know it's we're very lucky because our football team has a decent rosser. There's a lot of teams that would kill for the roster the forty-ninth gonna put out there this year. They're look at what they've done free agency. They've pretty much set it up where they're going to be a contender. As long as they stay healthy. Healthy health is going to be the biggest opponent for the forty niners. Whether it's a quarterback whether it's the lyman whether it's the pass rushers it doesn't matter the forty niners are literally set up to be a win now football team for the next two years now will they make it to. I don't know. I don't think personally that they can win. A superbowl with jimmy garoppolo. So if you bring in a guy like mack jones and maybe they don't go to sue this year the following year when he's had a little more expense. You never know. Anything's possible. When you have kyle shanahan has your head coach because consistently shanahan schemes guys open and makes players look better than they are and not to say the players are bad and then not even to mention their defense is still really good. They still have one of the best defenses in the nfc outside of probably tampa bay or los angeles. We'll see what happens with los angeles. There's gonna be some regression there you know yes. They solve aaron. Donald trump jalen ramsey. There's parts of that team. That aren't as good as they were last year. So it'll be really interesting to see what happens. You know coming up in the next couple of weeks you know. The draft is almost here in these answers. We've been waiting for since this horrible season ended our finely almost upon us. You know we're finally about to find out what the heck the forty niners are gonna do next year at quarterback and hopefully it's you know move on from that big jimmy garoppolo contract and give someone like jones a chance or trade up. You know. we didn't even talk about the trade up guys today because we've talked before but right now it feels like with the free agency. They've had and the talent. That's on that team mack jones at twelve. That would be a great position to be in. You know going into next season and yeah you're probably you probably don't have like probably still sitting at the fourth best quarterback in the nfc west but at the same time anything's possible. Things can change. You know not going to be around forever you know. He's an older guy. Russell wilson mike trade next season. You never know Bawab to see what that. Hey jordan is there anything you'd like to plug before we had out on tonight You know if you haven't checked out for the gold mine You know it's great science full of great content Drugstore leo's spoke about it at length. But you know any any chance you have to check it out you know. We greatly appreciate it. I'm personally focusing on draft stuff right now so. I do have a few mocks out. You can find on the site there. I'm trying to do one at least once a week. generally around wednesday thursday in that timeframe. So check out my mock drafts. I really enjoyed doing draft stuff. If you have any questions about prospect or anybody wants my opinion on something. I'm always happy to give it or just wanna talk graph stuff you can follow me on. Twitter at splash underscore cousin. I'm always happy to talk. Draft stuff talk football in general Thanks for having me on. Guys saw his boss talking with absolutely lille. Is there anything you wanna for time. Just basically same old same old forty niners gold. Mine dot com. Make sure that you check it out. See jordan's mock drafts. He does a great job and not just diving into day. One guys day two guys. He does a great job looking at the six round. Picks looking at the seventh round picks looking at potential undrafted free agents. So i would definitely suggest go to forty niners goldmine dot com and checkout out. Jordan's mock drafts as well as my youtube channel. It just happened forty niners gold mine. You'll see a lot of my youtube stuff. Planning some live shows on there as well if you wanna get some live. 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The John Lund Show, Ep. 1 - Five players to watch in camp

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The John Lund Show, Ep. 1 - Five players to watch in camp

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John Lund show here on the niners nation Hod cast network will put together a mailbag weekly today on the podcast, a Lotta things to get to. The first few days of camp. The five most important players in camp, which by the way are subject to change explain George, Gidell's contract and why it's great for the forty niners and kittle here from Kyle Shanahan George Kibble and John Lynch along the lines of that contract who's next on the forty niners free agent list. Yes. Who already jumping ahead to that John Lynch will address that I camp notes for you injuries. What's important? What's not who's flash so far who didn't and before I get to all of that first and foremost your this is the camp philosophy to live fight. I am a reporter and a talk show host. So I need content the beat writers out there they've got to write about something when you go out to camp basically your editors tell you we need to play a player of the day all those different things. Now, Camp Philosophy is this. We don't know what's really going on. All right. We have never had less access to the players than we do with in nineteen training camps. The vets aren't going one hundred percent. We don't know how many times that play has been run. Maybe the defense, all the sudden has gotten sick of it and they jump that Oh Jimmy Garoppolo got intercepted in return for a touchdown speaking of Jimmy. Garoppolo here's two good examples on my camp philosophy of don't believe anything in the only thing to worry about is injuries. Don't worry about anything except for injuries. That's camp philosophy a year ago last Friday on my show on Kamiar. We were talking about Jimmy Garoppolo throwing five interceptions in Denver during a practice. Then he followed that up with a game in which he played Denver and his. quarterback rating that day was Karski from animals zero point zero everyone panicked everyone freaked out last I checked Jimmy Garoppolo coming off a major knee injury and the first season that he's ever been a sixteen game starter in his NFL career. He led the forty niners to the Super Bowl. So last year we were freaking out and camp he took the team to the Super Bowl. Now would you have liked for him to hit that Emmanuel Sanders Pass yes. Would you have liked for him to play better? In. The fourth quarter. Yes. But Jimmy Garoppolo did pretty well, and last year everyone freaked out over the Denver practice everyone freaked out over the Tar Ski Zero Point Zero it worked out just fine we have to as reporters do camp stats. I hate him but you do camp stats because we believe them up people click on it. It's just the way it goes another example Marcus rush led the NFL in preseason sacks four years ago with the forty niners yet eight in four games didn't make the team. It not saying that camp is an important. They are obviously, you're missing games. So it's not about that but camp stats are dumb coaches lie. I'll do the best I can in the podcast to cut through everything I know people will tell me the truth I'm down there but just know this everything else is irrelevant about training camp except for injuries doesn't matter how many interceptions with thrown doesn't really matter who looks good who flashes those things happen all the time. there. There are scrimmages things are I'm not saying that it's not important at all Brennan UK's so far. We'll get into this in the podcast. Today has looked really really good in zoo meanings and on the field there is some truth to it, but it's like spring training. If you watch baseball, I don't know WHO's working on their fastball I don't know WHO's working on a new pitch I. Don't know what veterans trying to what he's doing this change of. A hitter is doing is he tried to go up as you work on that. That's what spring training in baseball is about. It's the same thing in training camp I don't know WHO's working back from injury I. Don't know who's feeling is good. I don't know what Kyle Shanahan is trying to accomplish offensively defensively how many times defense or offense is seen as certain play. So we have to cover the team this way, but the philosophy is very, very simple nothing else matters except for injuries saint with me nothing else matters except for injuries along those same along that Front Kyle Shanahan today. This. If you haven't heard Jalen Hurd who a lot of buzz around Jalen her third round pick out of Baylor last year had been running back at Tennessee. Six foot four, two, hundred, thirty pounds came into camp looking like it looking like Mr Universe and last year he broke his back. He had a preseason game in which he scored a touchdown. Everybody was happy with Jalen Hurd everyone is excited. In the off season, Kyle Shanahan was talking about what a chesapeake. That Jalen Hurd could be, and now it looks like Jalen Hurd has blown out his knee on the first day of training camp. Here's Kyle. Shanahan. We haven't gotten the result yet I mean it's all the ACO's reported today. That's will be surprised if it's not. So happened yesterday he's at them right now but it's pretty unfortunate thing form. The guys we know what he went through last year with his back and The guys worked as hard as anyone on our team to get back in for him to get hurt before he actually got to go out there and just a freak thing on air cutting really felt bad for the guy looks like an ACL for Jalen Hurd he would be out for the year. I'll tell you in the five most important players in camp what the wide receiver position is like right now in fact, let's get to it. It is time for the five most important players in camp quarterbacks do it goes without? Saying that Jimmy is number one on the list or quarterbacks for any team. All right my quarterback philosophy you can't talk about the quarterback too much can't somebody you're talking about the quarterback too much you can't every offensive possession. He has the ball in his hands every single day. Now look if you read a wildcat or something. Okay but he can't talk about the quarterback too much. So I like Jimmy he needs to be better he was good but the fourth quarter in the Super Bowl will always stick with them until the forty niners. One one that's just what it is. But as I said, he's coming off a knee injury. It was his first season starting. He's still got plenty of time. Yes. He's wearing a brace. That seems to be big news Jimmy. told me he came into where a camp last year. Jimmy told me and camp last year he was probably GonNa, wear a brace whether he need it or not the rest of his career. It's a titanium brace. It's very light. So. If you see Jimmy wearing a brace or somebody's writing about Jimmy wearing a brace he's not hurt. It's not a mental thing. He just has grown used to it and he's probably going to wear a brace as long as he plays. All right quarterback done. He is not one of the five most important in camp, but it goes without saying that quarterback always is. In no particular order driven Kim Law they traded Buckner for the thirteenth pick and after move back to fourteen with Tampa this is who they got von Kin Law. The forty niners will put pads on Monday. So we're going to get a better sense of just where Kinloch is, but I know this from sitting in and a lot of forty niners zoom meetings this off season. The phrase that keeps coming up is how big of a man von Kinloch is now buckner was bigger that's what you're saying you. Yourself would wait a minute buckner was big. was about six, six, three, hundred he was about to ninety. Really he was streamline he was thinner. He wasn't the plugger that kin law is and I'm not saying he's a plugger but. When you get Dj Jones and Devan Kin Law. I think that you're going to have a more stout running defense and we saw in the super bowl that while everybody was so worried about the Kansas City passing game that chiefs offset everything with the running game and. Kim Law is gonNA help with that. So Kinloch, in Jones, inside DJ Jones coming back from injury that would be great if they could pressure the quarterback of Kinloch combustive quarterback that's going to be a bonus but this first year if he plugs it up inside plays, well, he is a massive man just massive arms massive legs he's very thick, but he's very athletic as well. He's listening about six, five, three, twenty, six. So that's Thuban kin law he is number one on my list here is Kyle Shanahan on kin. Law and a little bit I you because I'm GonNa get into receivers next I mean you know we haven't been around each other at tons. We all get here and everyone's GonNa look at the first round picks I. So you know Ken Lan euchre probably guys the players are watching more trying to judge how they are, and these guys came in working their tails off. So we have been here that long so I'm not just going to say it's a finished product. You know we've got to keep doing that. And keep working. But both of those guys of come in fallen right in line in a really helps You know how the rest of our team is you know we we didn't get as many team meetings when we started and we go out to walk through and everything and to not have to address a lot of people on how hard we go in the rookies kind just fall in line because they watch everyone else doing it So if if you come in slacking around you you. Look pretty out of place Usually, a lot of the players are going to get you before even a coach Stu and when you have a guy like Kim Lawn Uku come in and the players are probably expecting to tell them, you got to turn it on a little bit. This is in college when you don't have to tell guys like that it is impressive they are working right away. So they do seem like a pro today was the first practice. We've got a long way to go. On the key will be keeping that up. There's kind of Shanahan talking about the two rookies in Japan kin law and Brandon I. You'll see you'll know this about me during the podcast break into stories a lot as I was listening to kyle there it kicked something in my head, which is strange because there's a lot rattling around in there, which is the I do the pre game in the post game with Dennis Brown he's a super bowl champion with the forty niners and and when Dennis Brown came in, he came onto a super bowl team, and so he had a bunch of veteran guys Charles Haley was around. Richard Dent was around the year that he came in a lot of veteran players Ronnie. Lott was around and there was he. He's told me many stories that there was a certain way that you had to conduct yourself. You were a winner, the forty niners expected to play at a certain level. There wasn't I'm a rookie that didn't exist and what you're hearing from Kyle Shanahan right there is there is again a certain level that you have to come into Brandon Euch you're replacing Emmanuel Sanders. There's no, there's no you're rookie so we'll give you a break. It's Emmanuel Sanders and more is what the standard is. You got to be high as high or higher than that same thing with John, Kinloch Europe placing deforest buckner he was a second team all pro. It doesn't matter that you're a rookie you've gotta come and play well, all right number two wide receivers in general the most important five most important players in camp wide receivers in general play. This Blah Blah along with me on this, tell me the starting three wide receivers in week one I'm GONNA assume for a minute and I'm gonNA. Let you hear from. Kyle Shanahan in just a second let's assume for just a second. The depot is out because Jones fractures that tricky. So you say you born in Taylor Trent Taylor came back. This weekend was really really good someone to put Trent Taylor in the slot along with born, who's the return with is the leading outside receiver returning for the forty niners and Brandon is. The first round pick. So then I could say Pettus Tavon Austin and John Jennings who a lot of people think. Is I'm not gonNA say a carbon copy of what Jalen Hurd brains because Jalen Hurd runs in the four five three range one of the reasons or the reason that John Jennings a rookie at a Tennessee. The seventh round pick dropped in the draft is that he was about about four seven two, but it can do a lot of things that Jalen Hurd could do mismatch in the slot mismatch put them at. Different places. That's what John Jennings brings to the table to me. Richie James is clearly on the bubble and he's got a broken wrist right now ads von Osten to the mix, add a veteran jj Nelson to the mix could add Ron Brown formerly the seahawks and cardinals to the mix as well. So that's what's going on as far as the receivers. Now, one of the recently picked up that's could start. When thinking about the wide receivers, this is what you have to remember when it comes to Kyle. He values maximizing play when he draws up a place told me this when he draws up a play, are you consistently maximizing what he thinks that plays worth that's one number two you've got to be able to block Kyle Shannon's offense. A lot of people think he's throwing the ball over the place they run the ball first. So if you're an outside receiver and you can't block, you're going to be docked for that. That's just the way Kyle Shanahan is, and thirdly like most NFL coaches. Kyle Shanahan has. Little patience if you're going to drop the ball if you're gonNA fumble the ball, those are the kinds of things that he puts at the top of list as far as his wide receiver. So my guess is. Who is good both mentally and physically, and you'll hear more from Kyle Shanahan later on in the podcast about him Kendrick born has looked even better in the off season. He's worked really hard cow Shanahan has mentioned his name a lot and again, Trent Taylor is coming back. Now he's at injuries and you know my philosophy and and injuries he said some injuries but right now, Trent Taylor looks very good. You born on the outside Taylor to start in. Week. One Jennings I think is GonNa make this team now that Jalen Hurd is out and a battle between the vets in Nelson and Austin I think Dante Bettas time has come I think that he gets moved. He's never gotten back out of Kyle Shanahan's Doghouse in the thing the reason why they drafted Dante Pettis out of Washington in the first place was because of his special teams abilities, he said NCWA record for kick and punt returns as far as. TOUCHDOWNS, they don't trust him back there, and that was his main value coming aboard. He hasn't progressed as a wide receiver I think Paddock's gets moved one way or the other James gets cut again in the Super Bowl they were not happy with Richie James and his kick returns I. think There are other guys on the roster who might be able to fill in those duties. So there you go that's the wide receiver position one of the five most important layers. In camp but I cheated I gave you the whole wide receiver core which I'll have my eye on. I told you I'd update you on the status of Deebo Samuel. Actually. Kyle. Shanahan will update you on the status of Deebo Samuel but I didn't think it was possible that Samuel would be back for week one I'm working out on the side over the weekend and Monday during practices but Kyle Shanahan while bad news Jalen, Hurd good news potentially on Deebo Samuel. I mean the way I kinda see in my mind. I think we're hoping for week one. Not Counting on it. But I think that's kind of the area that these injuries usually he'll by but a lot of it has to do are you ready to play? Are you as fully healed by that time? Are you in football shape which it's deal is going to do everything can to be in shape it's hard to be in football shape until you can play football So how many practices do we get them in here before Arizona So that's all going play, but I'm hoping for week one. But not sure yet slow too early I would be shocked if it was week one most organizations in the forty niners this way. If. It's close although Arizona's a big game in Arizona you may be kind of chuckling but remember Arizona gave the forty niners to really tough games I mean cuyler Murray is going to be better. They love to have deebo back I just don't think they'll rush him back at all given a so many injuries to skill position players over the last couple years. Shannon. Surprise me a little bit. They're talking about even a possibility for Deebo in week one if that's the case, then it's deebo hopefully, it's I. You we keep hearing really good things about both mentally and physically he's looked really good in camp which I'll tell you about more in just a second. He's a really good in camp. And Kyle said that he's done really wellness zoom meetings as well. So they go wide receivers Brandon Euch. As. We're giving you the five most important players camp. Let's go to speak any injuries jerick McKinnon if you can't remember McKinnon and Minnesota no-one blame you I'm not sure if he still has the four three ish speed, he's been out for two seasons. Now he's at issues obviously with the knee but if he's right and I've talked to a lot of people within the forty niners and they think he is the forty niners another we just talked about mismatch player most certainly I coleman. I think they split first and second down and the Mckinnon could come in and he can be an ideal third down back in Kyle. Shanahan He runs outside a wide receiver. He blocks way above average in pass protection he's a matchup advantage of he still has that speed, which is another kyle thing matchups look at all these different matchups he can throw all sorts of different types of players on the field and mckinney would be that way so far in camp, and again it's early Saturday Sunday. Monday the. One on the pads but he was lining up in slot as well as in the backfield. He's that good of a receiver coming out of the backfield. So that is jerk MacKinnon MacKinnon was one of the guys that spoke on Sunday to the media here's what Jerick McKinnon the jet says about what it feels like being back those good is getting back out there. And Count you know got back before did the walk throughs you know everything's just been you know. You. So so good and so well, it's been with the teammates the coaches for me. It's been a long time a long time coming and You know just to be back out down the fill up doing all the small things little things. Definitely feel blessed in Just happened to be back in the situation that I am today Jerick McKinnon. Again sounds good. My again, I keep giving you philosophies, but this'll be good I'm trying to give it. It's Kinda like setting up a movie right you'll know that you can't talk about the quarter the quarterback too much. You'll know what it means when somebody starts taking stats in the camp what our philosophy is that I want you to adopt about. About camp another philosophy with injured players Jalen Hurd is on this list for me. Jerick. McKinnon is on this list for me Trent Taylor is on this list for me for as good as this offense was a year ago they have all these different types of different offensive skill weapons that could be coming back and I'm excited about him. Just like your probably excited about them but injured players get injured Jerick McKinnon since he's become. A forty has always been injured. So my philosophy on that is they've got some great running backs and he is different. He can really be a great Jerick McKinnon a great third down back but Jerick. McKinnon. All I've known of Jerick. McKinnon is a forty niners is injury. So if you're injured Jason Barrett goes onto this list as well the corner that has been on the forty niners for for a couple years and he. Hasn't been able to get things together. Those guys are bonuses to me. You can't rely mckinney and you can't rely on you can't rely on heard can't rely on Taylor until they prove they can stay healthy. This is obviously a brutal game. So I want Jerick McKinnon to be healthy I. mean courage by the reports of Jerick McKinnon. But until I see Jerick McKinnon actually on the field running routes running with the ball staying healthy. Making, sure he's not wearing sleeve or anything on his knee. So I'm sure it's fine for him. I'm simply saying that as a fan or as somebody who's covering the team, I would look at Jerk McKinnon is a bonus. He's bonus guy he's not a guy where I say okay I'm relying on Jerick McKinnon because you can't rely injured players because what do we injured players? Do they get hurt? Let's face it. The weeks are feeling really really long right now we could all use a little distraction. So listen to the distraction podcast. Hosted by former deadspin writers Drew Gary David Roth The distraction is a new podcast about sports from defector and stitcher. Each week the guys in their guests will break down what happened on and off the field whether it's NBA players getting testy on the court and Weird on instagram or horrifying takes from sports talk radio that need to be eviscerated. Whatever the drama drew and Rothley ready to serve you the hot takes you need to stay distracted from well everything. 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So we still young enough, but he's got an injury history, and as I told you what my philosophy is. Witherspoon to me the corner opposite Sherman Right. Now the competition is Witherspoon or Moseley Emmanuel Moseley, and killer witherspoon that's it. Now, Jason Verita gets involved in it because he can be healthier shows he can be healthy. Then that's fine. Then put him in the picture but right now he's a bonus I. He's a mystery he's twenty nine years old. So he's still young enough but with an injury history like that you, he just has to base a it's a surprise. Oh, he's back. Okay. So I'm not going to count on him yet a killer weatherspoon and Emmanuel Moseley Witherspoon physically as everything the forty niners are looking for in a corner. He's six, three, two, hundred pounds. He's long he's athletic the problem with a killer witherspoon is his mentality. A corner has to have a mentality of oh well, I just got burnt I'm GonNa go back out there that guy just beat me. I'M GONNA go back out there he lets it get to them. Emmanuel. Moseley on the other side is had has had to fight as a free agent come up in the NFL he's five eleven, one, eighty five, but he's a bulldog type of player. So Mentally Emmanuel Moseley is a little bit better but again, he's not that big. He's Feisty I think Moseley wins the spot variet- coming up on the outside if he can be healthy also watched two, thousand, nineteen, th round pick Tim Harris. He's listed at six one, two, hundred, five pounds missed last season with an injury I'll be honest with and again this another philosophy of mine I haven't seen Tim Harris play a whole lot. I saw some youtube videos when he got drafted. I've heard some buzz from from some of the scouts with the forty niners. I can't give you a full blown description I. think it's GonNa be great because I don't know. So I'm not going to tell you what Tim is going to be. I'm just telling you he's got the size that the forty niners covet and he was drafted last year he might be a guy who could get into it as can't progressive. So it's another gotta keep an eye thirty five and finally number five, five guys somebody watching at Camp Trent Williams. Trump. Williams. Just turned thirty two If he's as good as ever then you got your left tackle and he's protecting Jimmy Garoppolo the put on Monday. So what you WanNa Watch or when you want to watch four is Nick Bosa taken on trump Williams remember last can't last year's camp where Joe. Daily. And Nick Bosa went at it, and then they kind of compared no Senate made Nick Bosa. batters rookie I think that's going to be a great thing. I think having a guy as athletic as Trento excuse me Trent Williams. Williams owns a gym if he can. In fact I have this at John. Radio on my twitter feed I have a picture of Trent Williams and he's got the sleeves cut off a press conference city did last week. He's got the biggest arms of ever seen on a man. He can jump up onto those boxes I. Mean it's ridiculous for a guy that's like three hundred, twenty pounds. He's six, six, three, twenty it's ridiculous the kind of athleticism that that this guy so I put them. At number five, not that I have a question on him because there's a lot of people asking, you can still play. He sat out a year. Are you kidding? He's one of the most athletic big guys. You'll ever see he played in this offense with the Shanahan's he wanted to come here. The only question will be at the end of the season and we'll talk about this a little bit. Later when we get into George kills contract, the only question is, can they keep him around long-term? He's an elite left tackle. He's top five. You might be top three. He might be top one, but he fits in the offense his athleticism. I. Love. Joe Staley Joe Staley was on my radio show for three years. It was a weekly thing I think the world of Joe Staley as a person as a player, but Trent Williams is going to be better. It's as as that. All right. Those are the five players I'm watching and five things. Five most important players in camp. I gave you qb philosophy. I gave you giovane kid La Brandon. Euch. Wide Receivers in general Jerick McKinnon the corner, opposite Sherman, and Trent Williams. Those are the five most important players in camp and that is subject to change. John Lund show on the niners nation podcast network remember search niners nation where you get your favorite podcasts following John Lund radio. Remember if you have questions, comments, any of those kinds of things in the podcast make sure you get him to me throughout the week number two. Of things we must discuss this week George Gidell's contract why it works for both sides. It's a great deal for the forty niners kindle as you well know he's a unicorn, he blocks he catches he's a team leader he keeps everybody loose and the deal was always going to get done. So last week when a lot of people were saying that they were far apart and how could you how could you you got a wide receiver over here Amara is making twenty million bucks in Austin who brought his deal he's making eleven million bucks. He's a wide receivers and offensive tackle. He's he's all these different things the whole time and I'm rarely right. So I'm going to grow and I'm right. The whole time I thought to myself Lamar. Cooper's making twenty, million a year and Austin Hooper's making eleven million dollars a year. That's thirty one million dollars I'm horrible at math. That's about fifteen point five, million for the middle ground. Guess what is average annual value which is what? is is average annual values. Fifteen million dollars. That's we thought it comes down to guarantees thirty million bucks forty million bucks for injury. All becomes the middle ground for that. So it's good for the forty niners think about it like this. The amount of guaranteed money thirty, million dollars the George. biddle gap. Was the same amount that or about the same amount that Jarvis Landry got average annual value of the contract. Jarvis Landry is at fifteen point two, million George kills at fifteen million who'd you rather have Jarvis Landry or George kibble that's a great deal for the forty niners. It's a great deal for George Kiddo. Austin Hooper makes eleven million dollars year ten million in bonuses, George got, thirty million. Dollars in bonuses and Jordan's GonNa make fifteen year. So George got what he wants, which is he resets tight end market. The forty niners get what they want because for the price of Jarvis Landry who's a good not great wide receiver they get George Biddle who's the best tight end in the? That's a good deal for the niners. That's a good deal for George kill fifth rounder gets generational money fifteen, million dollars a year. By the way I'll get. I'll give you a question here and then we're gonNA hear from from John. Lynch George Kill and we have cal Shanahan in that no. One's going to hear from George cadle and John Lynch on the contract. After these I want you to think about this but not look it up. There's the Brady six, which is famous obviously quarterbacks drafted before Tom Brady there is now the kittle eight that's right and the two thousand, eighteen NFL draft. There were eight ends drafted before George biddle who were they I'll tell you in a minute. Here's John Lynch on getting the deal done I knew we were dealing with some interesting dynamics there and I knew as a result, it would be a challenge and. There there never was a challenge in terms of The like mindedness. The shared motivation to get it done. It was just fine where where is that spot? Because you know typically those things these things kind of fall right into place here we had to kind of create that and that it therein lies the challenge and. I JUST WANNA. Thank first of all George and his family for their patients throughout it, I obviously WanNa, thank the your family for making all possible and Jack back did a tremendous job. It wasn't. An easy negotiation. Everyone, stayed. Positive Resolute through the whole thing that we were gonNA find a way to get it done and we did that and that makes everyone. Happy. John. Lynch told a great story. Off of off of Mike. So that was a zoom call with the the media. He told a story about how he was a safety and the safety position was undervalued in for about twenty four hours. He was the highest paid safety until Brian Doc came along and got paid higher. So John Lynch is going into this and a lot of people when John Lynch was hired with no front office experience came out of the booth at Fox and a lot of people said, well, what could he possibly know about contracts getting deals done? Well, he was a guy at an undervalue position safety. and He tried to alter the safety position. Now obviously, he didn't set that safety position like George George, kill set the tight end position, but he knew something about it. So obviously when he was talking to his agent Jack Becton, that's who John Lynch references in that cut he knows something about it and he could go to him and say Look I. Understand about resetting the market I'm not saying that the deal was easy to get done. But when you look at receivers when you look at tight end, you could meet somewhere in the middle and then Oh, by the way Travis Kelsey gotta deal done he should send George Kid some money or steak or something like that, and Zach Ertz is going to get. A deal done there is well speaking of setting the market. Here's George. Kettle on resetting the tight end market I think it's a step in the right direction I think overall. You know titans are occasionally forgot about her you know not advertise enough and I think the fact that you know guys are exploding through the ceiling was set. Um You know with. Me Travis Calcio fantastic. New Deal on earth is about to get one and the guys that are just blowing through that. It's just it's fun to see you know I think titans will just continue to prove that you know worth lots of the team and I'm just thankful that the niners organization You know believe in me that opportunity. Now here's here's something that was important and really wasn't reported a lot was reported wasn't discussed a lot as far as the George Kendall deal was concerned. He never said that he had set a deadline or wouldn't sign or he didn't WanNa talk about it during the season but he certainly wanted to get the deal done here's George. Kennel talking about getting the deal done. So he can focus on football that was a big part of it just wanted to get it done. You know have some security you know just no. Now I'm going to a football field and Now have any worries about anything I'll have to worry about getting an injured i. don't worry about anything just go out there and focus on football, which is no. I've best job in the world I get paid play football on on. No. Now I'm taking care of in my family's taken care of Noggin just focus on that to worry about money out the word about anything else I can just. Go out there and play football and run through someone's face and I'm really excited about that and I love the last part I want to run through someone's face. I, wish I could run through someone's face. I'm just too small just never been big enough to run through somebody's face finally here is John Lynch a lot of work to be done. This is going to be you think it was. A lot of work to be done and the floor of the salary cap because of covid nineteen and not having any fans and revenue will be down. The floor for next year's one, hundred, seventy, five, million dollars, which means that the CAP could go down twenty to twenty, five million dollars or even more. Here's John Lynch on what's next for the forty niners is far as signing free agents. So now I think we go back to the drawing board and start prioritizing and looking at you know when people are coming do and just like we always do looking three three years outlook in two years out and so thinking about the president always thinking about the future you know it's GonNa. Be Tough but the forty niners I will say this one of the reasons why they've been so good is because parague Murat. Day who is they're their cap guy and there's a number of different guys in the front offices that are the bean counters in count the numbers and those kinds of things I think they'll get it done but they get killed done. He's kind of base of the house both on and off the field he's a he's a leader. He keeps things lose he's a he's a he's a very good leader despite his twenty seven years old and of course, we all know what he can do on the football field but Trent Williams, they didn't get him for just one year at left tackle makes thirteen point six Laremy, Tunsil signed deal for twenty, two, million dollars at thirty. Two next year thirty, three, I don't think he's going to get that kind of money but he's going need money Richard Sherman's a free agent, a killer weatherspoon across from him as a free agent both potentially you're starting corners but specifically, Sherman are going to be free agents. Your Your Slot Corner K. Juan Williams who's vastly underrated get to an injury on him in a minute. He's a free agent in the offseason DJ, Jones in the middle that defensive tackle he's a free agent in the off season. So there's a lot of work for the forty niners to do. This is just the start of it, but obviously great to get George Kittles Deal Don, it's John. Lund show on the niners nation podcast network remember to search niners nation where you get your favorite podcasts and make sure you follow me at John Lund radio all right. Let me give you a camp update I the good Jerk Mckinnon who we heard from today. Happy to be back lined up in the slot. This weekend in the backfield looked fast did have a run up the middle on Sunday but again, he looked this way two years ago but in the good column so far the first couple of days a camp jerick McKinnon the forty niners always seem to find running backs out of nowhere the latest could be a guy at Baylor Michael Hasty undrafted. Look, good in passing drills to another thing. Again, with a cow Shanahan offense, you gotta be able to do it all out of the backfield and other small quick guy about five eight, zero, five at eight, hundred eleven, purpose yards and seven touchdowns his senior year at Baylor four, five, five, forty at the combine and if you look at the history. Under Kyle Shanahan of running backs for the forty niners, it's not like they're spending first round picks. It's usually guys that afraid this map breeders Gabu you think about breeding you think about most certain in only having Coleman, really is a guy that you'd heard of most of the running backs that come around with the forty niners guys like this guy so again. To. Keep. In mind that has off also play a little bit earlier replayed this brandon i. you has been impressive. He caught a nice forty five yarder from Jimmy in passing sessions on Sunday Trent Taylor said during his press conference availability today that he likes both. And Seventh. Rounder. Juwan Jennings who played that for you a little bit early. So I you and Jennings. Our is to keep an eye on as well. Now, not so good things injuries. I, told you the worst thing. The only thing you got to worry about training camp everybody's got as reporters pull back the curtain a little bit for you as reporters what we have to do is because we want to get clicks and we want to get people to watch and we want to get the listen to podcasts is that we have to come up with a player the day we have to come up with the play of the day we have to make it bite size pieces so that everybody can say what happened today, Jimmy, look what we're Jimmy Stat. I told you take all with a grain of salt and the only thing that matters is injuries. So Nickel Corner K. One. Williams. He suffered a calf injury during Saturday's practice. There was no update on k. one Williams and Eric Armstead again sat out practice both day Saturday and Sunday stiffness in his back listening to Kyle Shanahan on Saturday night in his press availability said that if it was something more important Eric armstead would be out there probably get a give them a few days and he's going to return later on the week. So Armstead K. One Williams Jalen Hurd those are the main injuries. One thing I wanted to let you hear. Kyle. Shanahan. Talk about was Jordan Reed of course he ended concussion. He's at a number of them. His latest was last August twenty second he was on on the side on Saturday session before moving to a side field for some individual work. So here's Kyle Shanahan update on a player. He knows well from the redskins Jordan Reed Jordan has been here very long we do know is history and he hasn't been as long as it's other guys. So we used a midday on routes on air did all the individual work, but we don't want them going against anyone yet. we'll reassess that each day and we'll get him in there when we're comfortable with. All right. There you go. So there's College Shannon with an update on Jordan Reed. If read is healthy thing about these skill guys if read as healthy at depot is healthy and heard is healthy it's all about health and trend Taylor seems healthy. Then the type of things they can do with the Chesapeake. Okay, you're secondary your team is good against these guys will bring in these guys totally different Jordan Reed with George Kittle McKinnon coming out of the backfield Trent Taylor in the slot. John Jennings. Brennan Euch in the different versatility that he. Brings to the table people forget this was a really good offense last year for the forty niners. Kyle is a mad scientist and bring all these different guys into the brew. Again, health is a major concern, but they can go quick in the slot. They can go big in the south bring a big group of guys bring extra tight ends. They could bring back like McCain who can work in the slider out of the backfield. There's a lot of excitement and can't for the different things. That these group of guys can do, but health is the big issue on answer to our Trivia question before we go I, asked you of course, there is the Brady six but now after George kill got his big contract, there is the kittle eight, the eight tight ends drafted before George kittle in the two thousand seventeen NFL draft Oj Howard nineteenth by Tampa Evan. Ingram. twenty-third by the giants David. Twenty twenty-ninth by the Cleveland Browns. At all in the first round Gerald Everett second round by the Rams Adam Shaheen forty fifth overall by the bears Johnny Smith One hundred by Tennessee Michael. Roberts drafted one hundred twenty seventh by Tennessee and right before the pick before George kiddle Denver took Jake. But one hundred, forty fifties at a ton of e problems and then one hundred forty-six dropping right in the forty niners laps fifth round one hundred, forty sixth pick overall number one your hearts. George kittle who just got that being fat contract are you impressed? We'll go impress your friends with the kettle eight if you are not that's the. John Lund show it is episode number one, the John Lennon show on the niners nation podcast network. Make sure you search niners nation where you get your favorite podcasts. Make sure to rate five stars be nice and subscribe hit me up on twitter at John. Lund, Radio questions, comments any of those kind of things I'll get him in the podcast next week for episode number two and make sure if you're around the bay area can be are weekdays with the voice of the forty niners Greg Papa. Ten. 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Niner Faithful Radio Season 03 Episode 50

Niner Faithful Radio

19:50 min | 1 year ago

Niner Faithful Radio Season 03 Episode 50

"Relish boy faithful. How's everybody doing today? Hope everyone had a legendary week or broadcasting live from beautiful downtown San Jose. Here look how beautiful my city is. It's like y'all have like three feet of snow on the ground and I'm living in the city where it's like seventy degrees outside so you know that's that's why. I live in California. That's why we pay all that big money so today we're not GonNa do that long his show but there have been a couple big announcements that we have for nine faithful radio but also today. I want you. There's been some cool things that have happened within the nine or empire that I thought that we should address but before we get into that I like to remind everybody to join our patrons reward program for as little as a dollar a month you can give special perks like ten percent off nine or faithful radio shop and invite to join me on the segment of nine or faithful radio and much much more. Go ahead and visit Patriarch Dot Com for slash niner faithful radio. You can find us as a podcast on apple podcasts and everywhere that podcasts are found as well as youtube and neither PAYPAL RADIO DOT com. If you're watching on Youtube please make sure to hit. That subscribe button. Give the video a thumbs up and hit that notification bill so you don't miss a single video that we upload also go ahead and shop nine April radio shop at nine for radio DOT com forward slash shop to buy officially nine license niner gear from shop forty niners dot com fanatics dot com show. Nfl SHOP DOT COM target Ebay and much much more go ahead and visit nine or four radio dot com forward slash shop or like us on facebook instagram at nine fateful radio or on twitter at nine faithful are S. Okay now that that's a worked Palo Jamie. Hello came how y'all doing good to see all. Thank you for joining me today. We're going to go ahead and pop up comments because I like that idea. That's so cool. And then Kim said Jamie that's nice. See that's what I want to create. I want to create a community because of course we all know. The goal of nine or faithful. Radio is to unite the nine empire not to buy. That's why we don't talk cap on the show I personally support Kapernick protests and all that but not in favor radio about focusing on the team and what unites us and not divide us you filming. Okay so I thought today my empire Mama High Bomber had shared a story to me and also my boy nate Pay Who runs. Remember the stick. Facebook group shared it into the group. Add has officially received a government Presidential Harden for his involvement in the gambling. Case in the wheezy Anna that took place in the nineties. So I thought that's really really cool running lot and Jerry. Rice Bo spoke at. You know the little ceremony thing that they had. But I think these really deserving of getting that dismissed. He basically got charged with not reporting a felony. So how I translate it to people who speak like me. He basically got in trouble for not snitch. I'm that's basically what it was. He didn't report a felony so basically. He didn't snitch as so he got caught up. That's of course why he had to transfer the ownership of the team to or at least has part ownership of the team to denise and as we all know the rest is history also another thing that we want to make sure that we mentioned today. Happy Birthday to a man who needs no introduction On me as far as I'm concerned this man is the definition of Al. He's the definition of nine for life. Mr Bob Sinclair Bob Sinclair was born to day. We want to wish him a happy birthday. He literally played his whole football career in the city of San Francisco Minus College. Because you know San Francisco. State didn't have a football team at the time. But a happy birthday Mr Sinclair and so a big discussion that I've seen around a lot of facebook groups and I've had with you know people in the paper Radio Messaging Group all my fam Is whether or not we keep Emmanuel Sanders and me personally. I'm not going to be held hostage. I do think that you know people are looking at it. As Oh he's thirty two years old. Yeah but you know what he blew by that Defensive back that That pass I mean he got wide open. He was he was wide. Open the Super Bowl for that last play and so I mean I. I'm all for. I'm not going to be held hostage. So if he wants a big contract if he expects the niners to get in a bidding war for his services. I tip my cap. Say Thank you. You should be a superhero like jt. For what you did for the empire you should have caught that touchdown and you know the rest would have been history. Thank you so much for your services yes of course. Jamie I totally agree with you. She says keeping Sanders depends on the price. To be honest. I totally agree. If he wants to be reasonable. I give them two year contract. Hey you know what you want to stick around for for another two seasons. I'm all for that but if it come. I put higher priorities for our offseason than getting a wide receiver. Now I understand a lot of the pushback I've heard is We WE ALL ASSUME MARQUEES. Good is not going to be on the team this year. you're basically looking at house money with Dante Pettis. I mean you know. I don't think many people are expecting much from Dante. Pettis now saying that. Donna can't have a great year. I love go I would love nothing more than L. Got Though giving you know having a huge year when I met a mentoring well when I got his autograph a Training Camp. I asked him if you like nickname. Got The house like what do you think about the nickname got though? And he's like I like it so I love Dante. Great young man talented beyond belief. But I just don't see in him now that's not to say is not in him does not saying. Hey you know what being essentially benched you know for what half the season I mean. That would probably motivate a Lotta A lot of people so I. I'm not expecting big things from Dante. Pettis I mean as we all know I went out on a limb and said that I expected them to have a big super bowl and and Make an impact in the super bowl. That shows you how much I know. 'cause he was benched and so if being benched in the biggest game of his career didn't motivate him and wake them up then honestly nothing will. So it's I understand that receiver may very well be a deed of the team. And I understand that. We know what the receiving core was. And let's not forget and let's not forget that you'll catch warns a restricted free agent. I don't think I think Caja born coming. I think Shanahan really loves him and so I don't see a team really 'cause we're obviously going to tend to him. What a third round pick. Maybe a fourth round tender on ad personally. I don't see a team. Given up a fourth round pick for a Kendrick. Born so abby I see Kendra boring coming back so I understand. I want a Kim. Go ahead and said I think I think known as the niners and he can run routes he Jimmy go-to players. That is very good point. Kim Him and Jimmy did seem to have a quite a connection. And you know it wasn't no secret that especially in that The Veterans Day not game and Levi. Stadium gives the she cox was pretty obvious. Offense was struggling when when Emmanuel Sanders got hurt. That's the game. He actually pictured his ribs so I like I think the niners wants to sign him. But if you let me ask you all this watching the show right now and if you watch the replay go ahead and drop it in the comments would you have Emmanuel Sanders or our garbage Stan? Would you rather have Emmanuel Sanders or Matt Brita? I mean I is GonNa Start. Getting would you rather have Emmanuel Sanders or secure a at accession for divorce? Buckner I obviously I know that. George kittle is free earnings last year of his contract. And I'm not questioning that we will get George. Kill extension done I have no doubt in my mind about that. That's too much of a high priority for the franchise not to get our I mean really are arguably our best player definitely by far best player on offense that George. Kidd wasn't going anywhere yet I would believe he'd be a a a career niner. If not then majority of his career will will be in the red and gold so the I think basically to some of my my point about this is I believe that Emmanuel Sanders is a priority I I would have them over Matt. Brita but I'm not GONNA do it at the expense of giving a contract done for air. Armstead or extensions for George kittle or deforest buckner but you know if the contract for him is comparable Aj Green. I know a lot of people have been saying J. Green I mean personally I'd rather have Emmanuel Sanders Asia. Greens heard all the time. I mean you make argument that Emanuel was hurt but he played through it he played through. He missed very few games and also man played in seventeen games. I mean he played in twenty games this season. So I mean that saying something but also I if all things are created equal as far as contract and maybe even talent wise. I'd rather always stick with the player that I've seen on the Rosser. I've seen Emmanuel Sanders in our offense. I've seen him chemistry with Jimmy He knows the playbook we know his worth ethic. The coaches love him. I mean all those things when you're talking about the kind of culture that it's been very obvious that Linda hands trying to build around this team to me. Keeping that culture is very import. And you hear you see it. All the time with with the niners of the eighties and the nineties is like a brotherhood. I mean you saw what all his teammates did for Dwight Clark recipes. We love you. But you're exactly Kim. Kills two crucial not to be niner? He can block as well as via tight end. I mean I think she means being receiving tidende but exactly I mean he's our best player. He's probably one of the top five maybe top ten. I'd probably put him up in top five for best players in the NFL. I mean who's really better then George kid'll opposite by I don't WanNa hear about Travis Kelsey fuck drivers Kelsey. Oh I'm so over him Bra. Okay Coups Fob. Crews Fiber Noble Travis. Kelsey Talk Anyway Jamie of course. Green is hurt too much. It would be too much money for injuring pro player exactly and we don't even know what he would look like an offense. I've heard he's a dime. Just I'm good give me Emmanuel Sanders. Look if a three receivers set next year all good Kim if we left if we start the season in a nickel three wide receiver trip set if our starting receivers are Emmanuel Sanders Depot More I have no problem with that I would like to think it's going to get. We're GONNA at least draft. Somebody I mean I see it happening. Just because Shanahan lices receivers. I kind of think it's a little access to take receiver three jobs in a row but don't be surprised if we at least as competition to the room this year. Jamie Yeah kills deals getting done this offseason? Sf isn't going to let him go anywhere. Now I mean John Lynch in his end of end of the year press conference pretty much said that it is priority number one getting a contract extension for George Kendall. Yes yes yes thank you. Jamie so much she she just said we also have tried Taylor and Jalen. Hurd coming back from injury this season. Yes do not underestimate the impact. That Taylor can have in this offense it to me was the most heartbreaking. Things of this season was not seeing. Trent Taylor on the Football Field. He was having an amazing camp and he was just getting catching everything thrown at practice and and now that we know how good the D. was how good are secondary play number one number one pass secretary in the League and Taylor's getting opened against them man could've out here man so yeah. I definitely see a Jordan. Mathews I don't really see Jordan Mathews playing a role. I mean if he if he stays on the team he's a camp body and you know one of those. Hey in case you know. We need to call somebody off the streets. You know. Stay ready type of players. But yeah obviously Taylor is a little You know turn Taylor would be to give you a little sneak peach. It wouldn't surprise me at Trent. Taylor's actually surprised. Cut this year which breaks my heart because I love Taylor and I think that he could be a great receiver. I mean we've seen it but you know he might just be a little injury prone but we'll see we'll see we haven't even start. Ota's we haven't even seen him on the field so I don't WanNa get too ahead and cutting players but yeah and I mean Jalen Hurd. We all saw that plague. Is the cry girls. I mean that literally made a jump out of our seats and so faithful Sephardim. Could you imagine Jalen Hurd a depot on the field at the same time it? My mind is blown. Yeah we're going to be a team to contend with this year coming up also. Yeah I think we're GONNA win the Super Bowl this year. I mean that's not. Just oh we may last you know I. I could actually be better team this year the next year. 'cause I mean they say a player takes the most growth between year one to year two. So you're having depot into your to your having Nick Bosa. Enter your to your having now. Jalen hurts a little different because you know he wasn't on the field last year. This team is young. A are starting to see us mature and get experience and you know various more is. I'm expecting big things from him This coming up this coming up season I might actually think. Various warm May Jimmy Ward expendable now. I don't really see that happening. I see Jimmy Ward coming back. But if he doesn't come back I wouldn't be surprised if it's your various Moore's starter now you can make an argument on whether that makes us the best If that's our best secondary or not but you know see but yeah so so the basically as Giddy buddies question and I think you either have to camps of only God. We're screwed up Emmanuel Sanders doesn't come back and you know he was a rental player. A tip your hat and say thanks for for the memories. I think that we could be in between I'd love to have him back. I Want Emmanuel Sanders. A Wide Receiver. Core is in good hands with out him. Barring Jalen Hurd coming back healthy borrowing Trent Taylor coming back healthy maybe even adding a receiver in the draft and Lynch Jehan. I trust and I tip my cap to But yeah we're going to go ahead and get a body here. We have some some big things coming from nine in favour radio for the first episode of season. Four we're going to have a whole new layout I mean everything's GonNa Look Dope. I'm working very very hard to see Jimmy. Kim Of course have seen some of the things that I've done that I shared in the. Are the radio team message chat on. Facebook. Yagi to see him soon is going to be awesome. I promise highly I got home. Grow in the studio with me she. She's watching how your boy is now but So I so see y'all next week same time. Same fateful channel till then faith love and happiness go niners. Oh Yeah also I wanNA please check out. All are awesome blogs written by Jamie Ward at ever and identify radio DOT com. I'd also like to thank all of them for their very hard work in helping her. Faithful Radio continued to grow. Thank y'all so much love y'all I see next week. Faith Levin Happiness go niners so.

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The Shanaplan: Can the 49ers still make the playoffs this season?

Niners Nation

39:09 min | 6 months ago

The Shanaplan: Can the 49ers still make the playoffs this season?

"Welcome to episode number fourteen of the shannon plan. I am kyle posey. I'm joined by my buddy costs costs. What's going on man have you by week. Kp happy bye week forty niner fans. Thank god they have the weekend off. We get to watch other teams places. This week which will will be nice. It is and i. I would tell for deniers fans to watch some football watts smother positions and con. Compare that to what you see and that will seem it will not show that we are always picking on the guys just because you know we hold them to a higher standard. So it's talked about the saints game for niners. Lost twenty seven to thirteen for a good part of that game. It really felt like the forty nine for the better team are not for a good party. Game for at least the first quarter and a half agreed turnovers squandered opportunities and when you know when you're a stint as they are with all the injuries at the forty niners have had your just your margin for error. Just isn't there so dropping a punt muffing upon turning the ball over Giving the saints a short field. You just can't afford to do that. I did think before knives played well but as we said You just can't give drew brees and apparently jameis winston that type of field position. What what were some of your. What were some of your takeaways from the game. I mean the forty niners had more first downs. They had four more first downs. They were better on third down. They were seven of sixteen saints. two of twelve. They outgained the saints. They had two hundred eighty one yards the saints at two thirty seven. They ran more plays than the saints. Ten more and the out possessed the saints by five minutes right and we've been talking of all season. That's kind of been their game plan with all the injuries right possess the ball more shorten the game By limiting the number of possessions. Run the ball more effectively. Keep the opposing offense off. The field and in theory should win. But you look up. And it's a you know they lose by two touchdowns and you hit the nail on the head. You can't turn over the ball when your margin of error is razor thin like it is for the forty niners when you have a backup quarterback when you have backups at practically every position you can't you know muffed two punts on special teams you. Can't you know Or muff one point. They gave us a long special teams. Return that set up the saints inside their own territory. Mullins had ugly interception There when the game was kind of in the bounce not counting the one at the end there. Those kinds of things just can't happen the missed opportunities the turnovers Yeah just poor execution there. And it's tough because there's backups. All over the field so the expectation of them you know Executing out of high level is already lower because their backups. For a reason and they're put in spots they're not normally put in so you know they came out hot had a good lead came out firing and they just couldn't hold onto that they can sustain that momentum throughout four quarters and hence they lost at halftime the forty nine were only down seven but they had ran nineteen more plays in the saints. They held orleans to under hundred total yards in the first half had seven more first downs and they held the ball for fourteen more minutes. The game plan going into the game was great and you would have thought after everything. I just read that the forty niners been up but a fourth in one where called me give it step the wrong way and forty nine. Turn the ball over. They had a saints touchdown. Where you know the must punt so the sensitive touchdown off that they had a situation where can take your street gets sack on th which would have caused third and forever. But because rules and veteran quarterbacks they were able to get a penalty or they're able to turn that penalty into a first down and add points on the board. It really felt like murphy's law because everything that could go wrong for the forty niners did and i don't wanna blame that game on the rest because the forty niners did have plenty of opportunities and plenty of chances to make plays. They just did not. And that's seems to be the story of the season. Yeah the murphy. Lot the murphy's law thing hilarious. Because this season i don't know about you but does it feel like everything that can go wrong for the forty niners. Forget the injuries and stuff just within the game feels like it always goes against them like whether it's ball's bouncing the other teams way whether it's penalties whether it's turnovers whatever whereas last season it felt like everything kind of just fell into place this season. They just can't catch a here. It's almost like everything. Evens out crazy how that happens. Trent taylor is going to feel the punt. Has maybe five or six bodies around him. Instead of the pint is in the most literal sense to yards to the left of the ball. Let's bounce it bounces off. I believe it was Can west webster. Yep and his his foot and the saints recover. Just catch the freakin ball. Later on in the game. Richie james as a punt returner. It is so so hard to a pint if your elbows are in his elbows are about his white. As and naturally the ball goes right through the wickets 49ers give up another score in game was probably over by then but it just seems like over and over again. This team continues to shoot themselves in the foot but there were plenty of good performances. I thought this was the best game that i've seen. The forty niners receivers play as a unit in the past three years. I thought brand new is slowly turning the corner to becoming a very good receiver. He has some good reps against marshon. Lattimore he says. get better. But richie james is a good player and watching him play. I don't know what the excuses for. Not having him on the field over some of the guys that they have been playing George looks good is really good kendrick bourne obviously is as progressed to be very good player as well but you would just have no idea of the forty niners wide. Receiver play quarterback. Mohan's just does not give them much of an opportunity to get the ball down the field to say that he has a noodle arm would probably be giving him too much credit on the third and twenty one throat. Cj beathard decided to throw a line drive when the ball was needed to go fifty yards. Shockingly did not work out. I do also want to give credit though to robert saw. I thought he had a really good game plan. I thought that the defense discontinue hard play tough that even the blind as a unit probably played one of their better games. This season Props giovane kinlaw. He decided to show up in the box score for attention by love him by the way he just. He's fantastic he. He refused to give himself credit for anything. Which is which is pretty refreshing. Because he's going to get softball questions anyway. But i just liked the way that he reacts to reporter so I did think it was interesting. Well first of all not sure what took so long tiberius more than the game. I did think it was interesting to see a solid. Put marshall harris down in the box as an extra line as a linebacker as opposed to aziz here. I wonder if that's going to hold up because dimitrius finally get those was kind of that guy in training camp and they really did like him so i wonder if when he comes back if he takes harrison's spot because harris You didn't have a couple of plays where he just let alvin kamara. Just run right by him. On the outside we had his only job was to not let him get outside of them and sure enough he did not hold up But that's pretty much my takeaway of the game just bad quarterback play. That's going to be the case so long as he is. Mons is under center and garoppolo's not healthy The offensive line. I thought they did much better as a pass this past blocking but you wanna talk about their run blocking what did you see. This is kinda been their inconsistency. All season long has been there just run blocking and it felt like in twenty nineteen. They were able to you know. Use that part of their game to open up everything else rather use the run to quote unquote pass and something you and i've been monitoring kind of all season long has been a football. Outsiders adjusted line yards so For those guys don't know what's is it's basically they take you know what the running back gains on a given play and they it depending on what the gain is to truly show you how the blocking is up for right to give you kind of an estimate. So in the shannahan lynch era the forty niners have been in the top ten of adjusted line yards for the first three years right. They were They had four point two four point five and four point five just line yards between twenty seven hundred twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. They're actually at three point nine and their twenty fifth they were actually in the bottom Probably the bottom five early on in the season and then after those rams and patriots games they jumped up actually like fourteen fifteen. Now they're back down to twenty fifth and you know everyone wants to blame jerick mckinnon and michael d in austin walter and You know it's fair but usually especially in this offense it's more offensive line dependent. And when you watch when you go and watch the game specifically on running plays especially once. I got blown up nine minutes left and right. It's like on every play and it's not the same person right. That's why it's so frustrating. For and handed mike mcdaniel. It's like on one play. It's dan brown skin on another play. It's us check on a different play. It's a wide receiver like they all play the only time that they get everyone kind of sync up and blocked together. It ends up being a decent game. And when one dude screws up then all of a sudden the plates blown up in the backfield and next thing you know it's second long and the forty niners behind the chains and that's when like Starts to roll down. The hill and negative plays happens. So that's been the biggest thing it's like. They're run blocking so inconsistent and they were like that's the one part of their team. That's like relatively healthy. You know trent williams is still in their lake. And thomas still there. Dan brown's slow there. Michael j. still their colleagues checks still there but yeah and a lot of people will tell me that. Like george kittle out. That's why and it's like even george kittle. Were there was that he wasn't blocking like he wasn't twenty nineteen and rothwell. He's definitely not on his level. But yet the receivers. Everyone has a unit Just isn't blocking one. Then on top of that another thing. That's interesting is on multiple occasions this season. Trent williams Either you know post game or later in the week when he speaks to the media he's kind of casually dropped like as an offensive line. We weren't really prepared for the front that they threw or we haven't seen it on film and it's like like. Is that an indictment of like the preparation like or like in game adjustments or whatever it is he. He seems to throw shade multiple times that they haven't seen certain things that causes them to go be off guard and and it shows in their results right so it has been kind of concerned because if they can run the ball then everything kinda just keys off of that. But they haven't been able to do that. I mean they had what forty nine yards on twenty five carries or something like that we have one hundred fifty six yards in the past three games. That is putrid. It seems like shanahan is really a replacing. His hopes on most to come in and save the day If you look at some of the running back stats so you might be on the injured reserve. On tuesday his your. He has sixty percent of his yards. This season i came after contact for jerick mckinnon. Who has been getting a lot of flack. And i understand why he just doesn't really have a second gear. Fifty nine percent of mckinnon's yards have came after contact so these news are being hit often in the backfield and they're really not having much of a chance but at the same time mostly just has another gear concede the same cutbacks and can kind of setup his blocks where he also runs through a lot. More tackles than these guys do so i. E y shanahan is a lot more just optimistic about him returning and just we talk about moisture and brita. Last season they hit on a ton of explosive plays in the run game. How many times did they break a run and all of a sudden everything else opens this year. It seems like methodic to methodically. Move the ball down. The field and that you know is difficult when you have to do that. Routinely on every drive and sharp football stats. Excuse me does explosive. Run rates in twenty nine thousand nine. They were six at explosive. Run race had eighty-one explosive russia's on six hundred total attempts in twenty twenty they have only twenty four explosive russia's on two hundred sixty six times which is nine percent and twenty seven th so they were top ten last year in their bottom five this year. So there's not getting. The explosive plays out of the run game. They're getting hit in the backfield lot and have it's just. It's killed their offense. Yeah i wonder how much of that belongs to moster sensor as well and i was thinking about this last week i wonder as the forty niners continue to get more weapons around mullen garoppolo. Whoever is going to be the quarterback if that leads shanahan to kind of evolve and get past us check because he's not played well this season and is missed a lot of blocks and he an unrestricted free agent and obviously his speak for himself. But something's been up this year and it's been pretty consistent where it seems like every every time he misses block we'll Blocked the running backs pay for it. And we've seen that or even in the past game. I think wasn't on the goal line when they were down. There was like five second goal third and goal. Whatever he misses the block on tomorrow he got steamrolled. And i think it ended up in and mullins sack and on the play where they gave brandon youth the reverse where he lost like eight yards. I think you're supposed to block twenty two and was like a half step late. And you know garner johnson mixed play. And so yeah. It's been that all year long hasn't been as effective as he was last season. And that's he's like a focal point in their run game right now. So let's let's move on to the injury. Okasha and said on tuesday that he's hopeful of getting tevin coleman dimitrius finding and foles deebo samuel rim moster and richard sherman back for the rams game which is on november twenty nine. That is quite a bit of firepower. Obviously so. I think you agree. That sherman goes to the field. Voracek goes to the boundary. But does that mean mostly goes to the bench because in training camp moseley practiced with the second team in the slot. And i feel like if you're going to get your you know your best players out there. I mean i know jim. Art always been fine. But he's not as good as moses in covers and that would allow you to do more as well. What do you think that. they do. Secondary wise assuming sherman started. Because i'd it could for all we know he just wait another week or so. Yeah i was actually going to ask you about that. Offline but d did sala stick with the field boundary scheme again in new orleans. I thought he moved those guys around. That's like they. They didn't stick to fuel battery. I saw when. I was watching the game on tv. I was thinking that because it looked like that wasn't the case. But i didn't make a point of it to go back and look and like the all twenty two But so to answer your question. I personally would put your three best corners on the field. It's like the same thing with various more right why we begging to get various more on the field because he's a better athlete than marcel harris. And gives you a better chance when he has to be your deep safety so again and then it's the same thing with the major moseley. He's a better player than jomar. Taylor i understand. Playing the slot is different than playing a boundary corner. But you just put your best players on the field and you roll with the best guys. General has been my philosophy generally. So that's what i would do when you get sherm for it and moseley all out there hopefully Next sunday yeah. That'll be that'll be big and i. I'm pretty curious to know about that whole boundary corner thing because it when they first did it. The season that was to fit sherman skill set. I feel like just because he sees the filled very well. This was the first game where i thought. They bailed on it. I thought they had you know. Ver- atlanta the boundary a few times and moseley lineup on the field side. But yeah i. I didn't make a point to go back and watch Specifically in the all twenty two just looking at the very first possession is in the boundary on the first three points. So i imagine. And i i would. I would be very curious to see why they would switch. But no i lied. They're just playing right and left. It seems like so on the second possession is to the boundary so maybe a little bit of a segue to rent getting filled or getting practice on the boundary. I don't know that's how you get him eased in before you know shurmur has to come back and you go back to your field and boundary a scheme so another injury. Update jimmy garoppolo. Shanahan said that he's really holding out. Hope that jimmy can come back to season and play. Kyle added that the outcomes do change when in reference to winning and losing and that a few other players could join jimmy this season so that was that stood out to me today because he made it seem like if the forty niners pilaf few wins and jimmy is gonna come back other players would join grapple. I don't know if he was referencing. West ripper d ford or who. You might blair. Yeah if there if they plan on shutting them down unless there is a chance to make a run but also talked about garoppolos future with a lot of people grasp onto is. Let's let's take a listen to that clip. I expect him to be our starting next year. I expect them to comply with us this year. We have six games left. We are not out of the playoffs yet. You know. I've been on a team. That was three and six into a bye week. that ended up winning their division. We have guys on this team capable of finishing the sarai way. We gotta do one game at a time. And i hope jimmy can come back and be a part of that but the think that we've made any decisions on buddy wanted into the future isn't the case. Jim is one a lot of games for the sheriff's a lot part of wigan's he's not here and This weekend back okay. So as you could see he said. I expect jimmy starter and everybody just took win. Ran with those words and ignored the entire part where he said but to think we've made any decisions on anybody going into the future isn't the case. So obviously jimmy has won a lot of games with the forty niners. And there's i don't think anybody is ever argued that realistically that he's the best quarterback option on the forty niners but to me what stood out was why did kyle ad that qualifier at the end there. Why did he say that about the future. Because if jimmy was the guy wouldn't have had to you know parse words like he did and our producer. Rob reiner good point. Remember when bill bell check was asked with tom. Brady be benched or something along those lines. All he said was jesus christ so if it was that you know ingredients stone. Yeah that jimmy's your guy he's just left it at that. So what what did you think about some of awesome. Kyle's words like you think. I was late to the to the pressure so i wasn't there for this question. I wish i was. But so i just saw the the tweets on my timeline and it was. It was just the first part of what kyle said right it was. I expect jimmy carter next year. Everyone started to run with it. And then when i went back and watched i made a point to like type of the entire quote so everyone could see what what kyle actually set right because context matters in this case and just like you mentioned you know. We're in november twenty twenty. They don't have to make a decision to like march. Twenty twenty one until after the season's over like before free agency before the draft. So what else do you expect him to say. Now right you know. Do you expect them to say i know. Jimmy's not gonna be on the team. He's not gonna do that right. And kasha hands mind and you made a point of this before we hit record. He still thinks he can make the playoffs with this team which again. I don't know how realistic we'll talk. We'll talk about later in the pod. But he still thinks they've got a good shot to make the postseason so in his mind he's like. There's no no way in how winning with nick mullins. Cj beathard the best. Chance to win with the quarterbacks rosters with jimmy garoppolo so obviously you're not going to shoot his confidence and so he's just trying to talk his guy up so in the event that he does get him back later on the season and they're in a position to make the playoffs. No awkward sort of situation at that time. They just rolled jimmy back in. But yet you know the phrasing of every wants to parse words but you know i expect jimmy back versus saying jimmy is our guy. He's our future blah blah blah blah blah. He gave a well thought out. Answer versus just like you mentioned being like disagree. Just jimmy's the guy you know. He wasn't like frustrated and if he genuinely like answered the question is mood was pretty calm as you guys heard on the sound bite so that was my take away from it. The other part of it is forty nine. Decide move on which will decide later in the offseason You know you wanna make sure that. His trade values higher. You'd never want you know Make other teams. Think that you're out on garoppolo And so you wanna make sure that you talk them up as much as possible. Even though most teams know kind of what his capabilities are and his flaws are. I should say so Yeah that's the other part to it right. It's some gamesmanship as well and I tweeted this. After the whole debate about garoppolos grown on. I was like you know forty niners went into last season. They had multiple free agents and deforest buckner armstead. George kittle and you talk about. All the time they legitimately didn't know what route that was going to go. When the season ended in the last super bowl they could have gone a plethora of different directions with those three guys. Things in the nfl are fluid. They change all the time depending on who's available depending on what you know. You're getting back for certain players. It's like it's a marketplace and things change rapidly so you know what we talk about here november. We're just talking about jimmy. Garoppolo the player. What we see on a week-to-week basis what we think of his play And what we predict his future would be right. It's it has nothing to do with what kyle's actually thinking. Kyle's only focused on beating the rams next sunday. He is super tunnel. Vision as you should be as any coach in the nfl. It that's all it's focuses. He will worry about jimmy garoppolo and the rest of this team and college quarterbacks in all that stuff when the offseason hits you and i we have the time you know other fans whatever other media members they watched. i'll talk. Whatever house focused on getting to the playoffs. Somehow this team so His response doesn't really surprised me. Yeah we have to think it's november as you said so a month from now tarbert. Various more could be a just a gym and all of a sudden. They don't feel like they need to add another safety. This off season daniel briscoe could real a couple starts at center and look like the center of the future. We give it could get it together at right guard and look like the future there so there. There's a lot that could change. Its this is so fluid but cautioned jimmy garoppolo every day in practice and fans. You know it's easy to remember. Jimmy of two thousand nineteen because of what we because of where niners finished. And because of what we've seen in recent weeks from nigmatullin's who just looks unplayable at this point is leaving so many plays on the field but kyle's going to remember what happened against arizona. He's not going to make excuses that there are no wide receivers. He's going to remember that throws he missed. He's going to remember every day in training camp where there were multiple interceptions being thrown in. There were the same mistakes and same poor decisions being made. Those have not changed. Jimmy is jimmy. And i imagine while his mind is it made up more than likely. It's not made up and he knows that you know jimmy gives the team the best option that they're going to be some long talks about judas offseason and more than likely i mean if matt maiocco saying at this point in november will water even doing right now. Why do we have talked about this. At the team came off a super bowl loss. They were what nine minutes away from winning super bowl and a month later cow. Shanahan and john lynch. We're talking about tom brady to at that time. We have forty two year old. Tom brady forty two and they were legitimately considering him. They were watching film on him for multiple days. They told rob lowe just as much they generally will consider this forty two year old. Tom brady and i understand. But it's like they did the same thing last offseason and you know the other contenders whether it's you know. Ryan tannehill the titans or jared goff or kirk cousins or whatever. No those teams. Were like yeah. Let's let's look at other quarterbacks shan. John lynch did so. Don't listen to what he says his actions and the two things we've talked about the tom brady thing last offseason. They looked at him. The second thing is they didn't restructure his contract. When the forty two caps space the forty niners they didn't even have cap. Space to elevate kevin white to the active like game day roster that capital and they chose not to restructure jimmy. Garoppolo's deal why because they can get out of his deal this offseason if they need to they want that out they want that over garoppolos head effectively right so pay attention to the accidents. Don't listen to what he has to say. Even though what he says. it's pretty clear. Actions speak louder than words but his words have have also done the talking as well. I think that there are so many opportunities that we've had. And i. I mean with jimmy time and time again. It feels like we're talking in circles but it's the same talking points time and time we're fans are ignoring. What we've seen on the field inaction and i mean for all. We know tom brady wasn't the only quarterback they try to pursue. That was the only quarterback that became public. And i never have seen a quarterback gets so much credit for losing a super bowl. It wasn't just that though. I think of the playoffs they took the wind was hands in both games but because they won the game. It's easy to say. Oh is because of the running game where if you remember. A couple of those vikings throws a game could have gone a lot different. But we'll take a break here and when we come back we're going to talk about technically. Where the forty niners playoff. Chances stand where they're currently drafting espionage. Presents the sp nation nfl show five weekday episodes to get you through the grind of the nfl season with your favorite as a nation community leaders. You'll get reactions to what happened on sunday. Film breakdowns fearless takes local expert analysis fantasy football advice and so much more. There's a little something for everyone on the sp nation nfl. Show be sure to subscribe on apple. Podcasts so your favorite podcast app to be sure. You don't miss a single episode. Hi i'm neil patel co founder and editor in chief of the verge and host of decoder a new podcast from the verge and the vox media podcast network about big ideas. In other problems i'll be interviewing. 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And we're gonna have some fun so look for decoder with neil patel in apple podcasts or your favorite podcast app ari so we are back and callahan said the forty niners will put another waiver claim in for cars mckinley. So the forty niners did that when the falcons initially released. Mckinley and on tuesday tack did not pass his physical. We don't know why we don't know what the reason was. But that means your contract is voided and tat goes back on the waiver. Wire the forty niners would have been the next team awarded. That would have been awarded for tax. Oh it makes sense to bring him in just because they need capable bodies they need edge rusher and tack has experienced. Do you think what do you think. Do you have any guesses on what happened with his physical or do you think that they were gonna make claim either way. I've known you have physical. He had a groin injury earlier in the season and i wonder if that like still lingered and for some reason cincinnati had like concerns also with corona. Its little weird. Because i think you can do physicals with like your own doctor and then send that like an independent doctor. And then they send the paperwork over to cincinnati or whatever whereas you know pre corona you would go to their facility. The team doctors would check you out and you know for fans. It's not like the physical that you are when we go see our physician. It's like they check the crap out of you right to make sure that you're healthy. So for whatever reason he failed physical. I would still place a waiver claim because you have nothing to lose because if you win you know. If you're awarded mckinley you bring him into your building or independent doctor. Whatever And you get to see his medals. Just what was going on with. Why why they failed his physical. I don't think the conspiracy theory that mckinley failed his physical on purpose. Because he doesn't wanna be instances. Like i think that's a little crazy just because it's the nfl it's a job. He is in a contract year. He needs the rabbs like he was going to go play anywhere so i have a hard time believing that but i would have done that. I would place the claim regardless. And i i would assume no one else does like no one's going to be like. Oh let's play on him now that he's you know failed a physical. Imagine the niners get him tomorrow or when when you guys listen to this today. Yeah that'll be. That'll be something to keep an eye on because as mentioned there's just so depleted upfront. And that will allow them to kick air arm. Set inside more of I don't want to say permanent but on obvious passing downs. So it's move on sula forty niners as we mentioned koskinen still confident that this team has a chance to make the playoffs awful by outsiders updates their playoff odds each tuesday the nightmares after they lost the saints their odds dropped just under seven percent and now they have a four point three chance to make the playoffs. They give a gives the forty niners a two point seven chance of capturing the final wildcard spot so as dumb and dumber would say so. You're saying there's a chance. I not so sure. But how do you feel like obviously the rams the seahawks and the cardinals. They'll have to play each other for still have those teams those routines including the bills realistically. They'd have to finish five and one and probably still need some type of help to make the playoffs. The games they can be competitive in them but again the margin for error is just not there especially with the current roster as it stands. What is are those. Are those plods accurate for the forty. Niners yeah i mean. It's in simulations. There are edge cases where the niners do make the playoffs. I was joking around with somebody that you know when they get to like week. I don't know thirteen or fourteen. Their playoff scenarios going to be like win and arizona loss seattle lhasa. You know a carolina loss. It's going to be like eight teams lose and the niners gonna win and like some weird needs to happen for them to get in. So that's why. I don't think i obviously don't think it you know it's going to happen. We've been saying that for the last few weeks. The teams just not good enough the season we knew that as soon as they lost. Jimmy garoppolo and george carlin seattle like jimmy garoppolo. And george kittle. Were healthy and they had lost that seattle game. We'd be talking about this completely differently right. They would have just had a bad game. They lost whatever. But with nick and cj beathard starting at quarterback. You don't know what you're getting on a week to week basis like at any moment they could implode and nick balls did that. He had like a horrible interception against the saints when they were driving down the field. And so just there's too much variance in their play at quarterback in too many injuries a elsewhere to be able to overcome that and each week. We get into the bad habit. At least i do of as the week goes on you. Find things that you're like. Maybe they have a chance because of this and this and maybe they can cover or whatever and it's like yeah. They got a tough schedule. They got the rams. I got the bills and they got a couple. Nfc east games which will probably win and they got you know. Divisional games close out the year with arizona and seattle so playoffs. Colin hand believes they can because he was part of like the three and six reds washington football team. Excuse me That made the playoffs in two thousand twelve with rg three as like offensive rookie of the year. Whatever so kyle thinks they came out of the bye week and went seven and he thinks that then i can go on a similar run. Yeah berry apples to apples comparison. There kyle sam. We doesn't have any injuries and is has their rookie pro bowl quarterback in the same situation. Thanks for bringing that up. Kyle definitely definitely something. I went back and looked at rj stats because after he had said that argentina was dominant in those in those seven games. Yeah just unreal. The way he played down that down the stretch offensively both running and throwing the ball. Yes so nine. Don't have that yet. He also meanwhile down the field and he also made plays with his legs. Two things at the forty ninth quarterbacks. Do not do Speaking of rookie quarterbacks the forty niners footba ciders gave them a slim chance to atlanta top five. Currently they're picking twelfth. They can have some help. Begging land in the top. Ten if the falcons win. Next week. And i believe if the broncos win. Both of those are unlikely to happen. Because i think they're touchdown underdogs in both of those games. But i just keeping track of the playoff odds as well as the draft odds at the same time for the forty niners because just because they're in that middle will be something to keep an eye on as we get closer and closer to the end of the season but hopefully forty niners will get healthy. They will just continue to be competitive and make some sort of run so we can get a better idea and figure out if those guys like mickiewicz brun skill more. Some of the young players are guys that will be a part of this team in the future cautious there anything you want to add before we get out of here now man i would say for sure forty niners fans watch thursday night football it is. I know you guys probably will it. Calum murray versus russell wilson in seattle. I think the weather's supposed to be a little crappy ago. Figure but those quarterbacks this season especially have been on a tear. I mean russell. Wilson played particularly. Well the last couple of weeks but you russel's russ and college been phenomenal and just the disparity in quarterback play between those guys and golfing garoppolo or against goffin. Mullins you'll get the next time. The forty niners play is just i opening so yeah. That's the kind of quarterback that exists in the nfl outside of san francisco proven and on that note. Thank you for tuning in. Please leave us a five star review on apple spotify wherever it is you. Listen to your forty niners podcast. My name is kyle posey. Follow me on twitter. Kp underscore show as we get closer and closer to the draft. I'm going to just about quarterbacks. No reason why just just like watch position akash. Where can we find you. You can find me at ak s. h. a. n. a. v. on twitter and agreed. I don't ignore the college football tweets that will come on friday and saturday. You may casper you're watching. Byu play on saturday afternoon. Guy named jack wilson starts for them just saying it alabama but will you be watching them. Like adam peters or martin mayhew watched ohio state. Where caution and sit them or are you watching those teams to watch another position player. Because that's definitely what happened. I mean there are pretty good wind if they were there to watch him. He's pretty good but Yeah i mean. Watch quad quarterbacks. On saturday and friday dudes out there like tracks put on a show on saturday. Justin field stud zack. Wilson looks good mack. Jones is like throwing the ball deep. So just pay attention to both of us. We'll dot com quarterbacks up but thanks for listening to as always a forty nine.

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Gold Standard Ep. 2 - Is Brandon Aiyuk better than Deebo Samuel?

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Gold Standard Ep. 2 - Is Brandon Aiyuk better than Deebo Samuel?

"Hello welcome to you. This is the gold standard podcasts on the niners nation podcast network. My Name is Rob Stats Guerrero and as always co-pilot on this ship is Levin. Black, if I'm a CO pilot I'm the Jerry Rice of copilot's. Okay. What the Hell does that me He's not the quarterback co-pilot. I don't even know where to go with that. He's the goat I'm just saying I'm very confident in my ability. You know in the rundown that we have here I type out little intro, and then we're you're supposed to speak in parentheses. I just put Levin says something condescending that was hours before we even talked about today's show and Lo and behold shocker I was right One quick thing before we started you see Joe Judge? The new head coach of the giants is making his coaches and players run after mistakes in practice. that. That's going to go over really well, let's just say that that might be a team where assistant coaches jump at the chance to interview elsewhere I'm saying like if that happened the forty niners you'd have to worry about Robert Solid like beating you back to the to the team practice because guy guys in incredible shape. Yeah but then you also get like Chris Rock I wouldn't be surprised if he like does the whole like throwing a stick in the spokes of solid just so he can beat them back. And see now I'm kinda seeing the appeal I'm not GONNA lie. Two point nine hundred tweets out like, Hey, check out this altercation. To see those two guys like go head to head. To help off. Oklahoma drill. Yeah Oklahoma drill. Sneak that in before we started Robert Solids of frightening specimen just GonNa say that coming up in this episode couple of things we want to get to expectations for Jimmy Garoppolo in twenty twenty i. know you want to weigh in on that Levin and you have this crazy idea about brandon is already being better than Deebo Samuel and I can't wait to just eviscerate you on this but we're GonNa get to that and then last thing for niners did make a little bit of minor news signing Ron, Brown the wide receiver and her onus. Grassy. Yes. That was difficult up where one answer into question with you what is the bigger worry right now wide receiver or offensive line. So let's start with. Jimmy Garoppolo. And hence said something earlier this week that as I was listening to the press conference I said Oh I have to grab this cut because I wanNA play this for eleven because it really surprised me what he said, what is the narrative about Jimmy Garoppolo that we've heard all off season. Second full year as a starter in cal-. Shannon system is GONNA make a big jump because that's what everybody does. Right he's going to have the whole off-season to study and learn the system while here's Kyle Shanahan. Earlier this week talking about exactly that Jimmy knows often as well as the ever will I mean guys know it inside analysis about what you do best. Guys around you do best. So it's not about having an off season or him learning more, and so you can do more. It's about what we all do the best. What you hear that Levin what do you think then maybe Shanahan has realized that he should change. Just a little bit his play calling to you utilize Garoppolos. Assets. The things he's best at more often maybe. His passing game has always been predicated on having the intermediate route to deep route that opens up things. Maybe he's GonNa call a little bit less of that and try to get more screens worked in more shorter passing. That is what grapple excels at because he he's got incredibly quick release. He is a relatively, I would say in the. Oh towards the top five in terms of his ability to read a defence quickly, those are his strengths. Not, necessarily the deep ball even though I don't think it's as big of a weakness as it seems the niners having exactly had a great deep. Receiver at this point since he's been here. With the way that Goodwin fell off but I, would take it as Shanahan realizes that he can't just say this is my system. Play to it he's GonNa, make some changes and say, here's my system in here someplace for you as well. I think he's trying to lower the expectations. Frankly I think he's he knows now that this is Jimmy is I think he thinks that. There is not going to be any big giant jump that what we saw last year is what we can expect going forward. So I wanted to ask you let's just say for the sake of argument Jimmy Garoppolo has the exact same year statistically that he had in twenty nineteen not talking about team success playoff wins or anything like that. Just purely on the numbers. If he has an exact repeat of what we saw last year is cow unhappy with that. That's hard to say with the Shannon. I don't think he's ever happy. So especially with quarterback. He's extremely critical of quarterback. The matter who they are He doesn't like to hear others talk bad about quarterbacks but. Then he will obviously tear down his quarterbacks sometimes publicly but you know you see how defense like somebody like cj beathard he he doesn't like to have other people say that his quarterbacks are bad but he likes to say, Hey, they're not that great at the same time. Would you be happy with a repeat of the season we saw from Jimmy J.. I would be. Happy enough put it though it'd be happy enough to say Jimmy. Is Still The quarterback this team the team doesn't need to go out looking for an upgrade or draft on a quarterback early or any of that But at the same time it, it would be a disappointment if he's still made those really bad critical. Interceptions that. You're left wondering what the heck was. He saying because beds really his one huge negative is about once a game. He will have one pass and you go what the heck was that. So, earlier you said his strength was seeing the defense in making decisions quickly, how can you have that as a strength but also the what the hell are you doing throw every game Because you can be great at something ninety, nine percent of the time if that one percent is so bad, that's what you get. I think he hits really good at reading a defense. He's very quick at it. But he's also he has a lot of confidence but that way and sometimes he thinks he sees something that he can fit the ball into and he didn't give it enough time to develop to see what the defense was truly doing because he was so quick to get rid the ball and that's one of the things that you wanNA. Talk about second year coming back from injury especially, knee injury I'm. Curious to see if that is something that changes in him that will lead to less interceptions it could have been that he felt he needed to get the ball out. So quick in part because he had an e that he wasn't hundred percent confident in last year and he didn't WanNa get hit in it at the same time. It could also abend that the offensive line was not very good last year. He, there's only six quarterbacks that got less time to throw than him last year, and that's something that I wanna see Garoppolo do a lot more. I WANNA see more scrambling behind line of scrimmage more evading the rush I feel like he didn't do a lot of that last year when he was first with the forty niners I thought it was something that he was actually very good at he really reminded me of Tony. Romo a lot of the way he sort of scrambled around and move behind the line of scrimmage. Do you think we'll see more of that from him this year I think we'll see more of him maybe moving in the pocket I not convinced. We'll see more true scrambling because that's how he got injured and we know from things that Shanahan has said he's not a big fan of it. He would much rather the quarterback godown. have no risk of taking a hit or any injury because he's confident in his ability to find the right play to get that third and ten instead of thirty, six at the quarterback scrambles takes a hit. Now. You mentioned the offensive line being a key factor, and obviously it is another factor is clearly the weapons around Jimmy Garoppolo and he's GonNa get a couple of back. We hope so far so good but we'll see and those would be running back Jerick McKinnon who hasn't played in two years because of knee injuries and complications from those and Trent Taylor who looked great with Garoppolo at times but missed all last season recovering from injuries as well. Who Do you think helps Garoppolo more Jerick McKinnon or Trent Taylor? I feel like most people would want to say Trent Taylor just because he's won a wide receiver to he was a favourite target of Garoppolo but I'll actually say. Jet McKinnon McKinnon and I think it's because if you factor in if he's back for real his ability to be a threat running. As well as passing will open up avenues for Jimmy Garoppolo to make better pass it doesn't necessarily mean it's GonNa go to McKinnon, but I think his threat out of the backfield will open things up. For Garoppolo more him coming out of the backfield will have to be accounted for and like say we're playing Seattle. Seattle will have to choose whether Wagner covers McKinnon or covers kindle. They gotta make a choice because McKinnon is true receiving option. He's not just a dump off somebody that can actually run routes. Yeah I think we're GONNA see a lot more option routes to this year I mean between McKinnon and Kitto and Taylor. If you can have those three guys all running option routes, God, help you if you're in man coverage because I feel like there's no way you're going to be able to cover all three and you got through a Jordan Reed in there to in a two tight end set with McKinnon sitting back there. With Jordan Reed and kittle being the tight ends I mean that that adds a really tough thing to cover. For Defense because you got you linebacker, they're going to have to cover somebody there and there's not many linebackers in the league that can cover any of those three. If Jordan reed can play though and that's the troubling thing with him is one his injury history, but it's not just an injury history. It's a concussion history. I think he has seven concussions already in his career mean that could literally happen any snap. He doesn't even have to be a play where read catches the ball do you really think you can count on him to play Sixteen Games? Can you count on Mckinnon? Can you count on Trent Taylor I mean that's the big question mark with this offense and the receivers in particular is who can you count on to stay healthy because so many of them have been injured and have an injury history and you've already seen somebody Jalen Hurd go down so you're already. Running out a number. So to speak I think they're good right now with the numbers I think they have enough receiving options to be just fine. But if another guy or two goes down, they're going to be in a world of hurt and that's why they're bringing in. So many people. Yeah, it's incredible. The amount of people they've signed already I mean. If you had asked me last year about the Niner's receivers and twenty twenty I certainly wasn't going to mention Jj Nelson in Tehran Austin. But here we are I could legitimately see take on Austin making the roster to start the year in some of this in all honesty might be covert related they might have decided hey, where you could have somebody gets sick from my receiver group, it's more likely to have our depth impacted at that position than before just because you could have a Kobe related having to sit out for a couple of weeks. And on top of that, it's a complicated system. So I think part of this is they wanted to bring in vets that they least news they were knew what they would be able to get out of them and get them in so that they can start learning the system in case. They need them in the future because they could release them, and in all likelihood, be able to get them back. Let's keep the wide receiver conversation going but I want to focus on a rookie that'd be first year player Brandon because the reviews of Ben Incredible on I so far in camp and you have this crazy idea that brandon are you could already be better than Deebo Samuel so apparently when we come back, we're going to go crazy town 'cause I have to hear you explain yourself. Ok Levin. Here we go. Unite talk throughout the week we exchanged text messages things going on with the forty niners all of a sudden like. Two days ago I got a text from you. That says, I, Think Brandon I. You could already be the best receiver on the forty niners and then you wouldn't tell me why because you wanted to save it for the pot. So here's your opportunity mayor of crazy town Levin Black. please. Tell me how after four practices Brandon is better than Deebo Samuel? Well. The keyword there is, could I think there is a possibility that he is already better. Simply because he has. A higher ceiling I mean we knew that coming in from deebo Samuel he was somebody that had a high floor but a little bit lower of a ceiling for a guy drafted that highly, he doesn't have breakaway speed. He's not going to be a burner that can take the top off a defense. Everybody knew that about deebo Samuel coming in they knew he is going to be a guy that's great and screens great on slants great on outs all the shorter to a little bit of the intermediate routes. Brennan I is different. He's somebody that can do it all. He was incredibly elusive in college. He averaged ten point six yards after the catch his last year Arizona State in a pro style offense. You know herm. Edwards is the coach over there at Arizona State. And on top of that, you got somebody that has the speed to take the top off the defense I. Know His Forty Yard Dash time wasn't that impressive at four point five seconds but he was super supposedly not one hundred percent healthy when he ran that. And if you take the defensive players, the niners at what they're saying they're saying he is an absolute burner. He has so much more speed than that four or five says so he could in reality be a guy that could run a four three, five, forty in what would what what were. The Fans and media thinking of him as a potential receiver. If he ran a four three five that changes the whole story instead of this guy that has the body and has elusiveness who could be decent at the deep ball it'd be a guy that has all of that but it's definitely a deep ball threat. And I think he suffers a little bit too from the fact that that wide receiver class this year was so loaded there were so many receives it was it five or six they were taken in the first round this year and no one was even really talking about him when they were mentioning those guys so I think he kinda suffered from that a little bit but I just. Four. Practices. Levin. Four practices like come on I mean half the pass catching her on air right. Right. Yeah I didn't say he is definitely one hundred percent better. Nobody knows that nobody cal Shannon doesn't know that. But. I think there is. A good enough possibility that he is better. To say that it's possible. Because he like I said, has a higher ceiling and Shan. We know. He's not really somebody the praises offense skill players all that much. You know you could point to Dante Pettis, for example, is routinely tried to criticize him to the media. He has been raving about Brandon I uc. He said he's much further along than most rookies and I tweeted out a video. From the draft when Iraq was taken and it was Kyle Shanahan, raising his arms up and pump on the air because he was so excited. For Shannon to do that, he knows he was getting something special for his system. Especially 'cause. He knew he was on camera to like you know given that draft set up I feel like he wouldn't have done that unless he was super excited because he knew he was on camera so I that is a good point. Here's my question to. If Shanahan is so good at finding wide receivers. What happened on the Dante? Pettis pick why? If Shannon is identifying receivers and knows what he wants and all that. They took Dante Pederson the second round and guys been a ghost. The only reason is even seen the field this years 'cause they've had three receivers go down. Will I think? It's hard to say for sure being somebody you know watching the Games on TV not being on the sidelines in the practices every day. But I think there's been enough said enough evidence out there that you can read between the lines of what happened. Dante better. Last Training Camp Richard Germano saying he has true number one. Count. But he's not consistent enough yet call Shannon criticizing that he didn't get enough strength in the off season like they wanted that he wasn't being consistent enough. You know that was a big thing that everybody kept mentioning. He wasn't consistent. He wasn't consistent. It certainly seems like Dante Pettis did not come in prepared last year he came in. Not In football shape didn't add the strength that everybody felt he needed to be effective in the NFL and this year could different I mean you that's part of the reading between the lines they see her. There have been reports and there have been teammate saying he's in better shape this year he's better prepared. So I think what happened with that they pettus wasn't that Shanahan didn't get a guy that's capable of being great. He just got a guy that took his career for granted. I I don't understand how the happens. Right? You're. You're a football player you you play your whole life you college football you bust your. To get in shape and play as good as you comply and you fight and then you get drafted right and you get to the NFL and then you're fighting to become a starter. You do all that stuff you work so hard you go through all that pain people realize how much it hurts to train and play football, and then you have a good season and you go into the off season and you do nothing. You like I don't understand how you suddenly put the brakes on when you're really just at the beginning of a potential rise to stardom. You see in all walks of life people worked so hard for something and the moment that they feel like they got it there's almost a sense of relief like, Hey, I finally arrived and they relax now some people realize they can't do that especially in a field, the highly competitive like the NFL where your career can be over. Right. Than than it now if you get a bad rep. If the niners had released Dante Pettis last year and just. Talked about it openly in the media that he he wasn't motivated he wasn't in shape whatever and just basically. Threw him under the bus what he got another shot. Yeah. Somebody probably would have brought him in for work, but they wouldn't have committed a contract to him and his career could have been over because especially for a position wide receiver, it's really hard to break into a team. The team has to truly value you because it's hard to show what you can do in practice and just a workout because there's so many athletes out there that can look good in a workout. So. You'd think he put the brakes on he complacent. Yes. I think he thought he arrived because everybody was praising all he's going to be our number one next year. And we saw that. As well, the previous year with witherspoon on the defense side everybody said, hey, he was great. He's going to be the starter over there. He's GonNa Really Lock it down the niners going to be great in the secondary and he came in and he wasn't prepared and he's openly admitted that that he took some things for granted Sherman talked about that and said that about him that he you know kind of got complacent a little bitty he was not as prepared as he should have been. It happened some substances, how some people are and they can recover from it. I mean witherspoon was having a phenomenal season last year prior to the area and you gotta wonder how much that really derail him whether he was ever fully back from that. Maybe, pettus finally rebounds this year. But isn't that? What Sherman is supposed to prevent isn't Sherman like this great leader in the locker room taken all these guys under his wing and doing this that and the other isn't he the presence that's supposed to prevent a young player like a Keller Witherspoon from backsliding in the off season? You can lead a horse to water can't make a drink and. There's only so much at a certain point German can tell them hey, this is what it's like what it's going to take and. Not. Everybody's GONNA listen to that I. It's just the nature of it and like I said, you see that in all walks of life you're gonNa have somebody that's the best in their field and He takes. The wing and tries to teach him and the person doesn't listen. Who you think is that guy on the offense because I don't think it's Jimmy Garoppolo to be honest with you George, kindle jokes all the time about how he doesn't text back or whatever. But I think there's a little grain of truth to that. Jimmy is that guy that's hidden guys up in the off season like, Hey, what are you doing? Are you working on this or I saw this this could be good next year who is that guy on the offense that's doing that? That's a good question. I would say it was probably Joe Staley, but he's gone now. So I don't know who it is at this point, it could end up being it'll. It'll certainly seems to be somebody that really wants to keep the team together and you see that and you know he responds to teammates tweets on twitter pretty consistently and things like that. That could very well be him. But right now I would say that is avoid that probably needs filled in it's either going to be killed are in Garoppolo might need to step up here but I think to a certain degree. He had an example of a guy that. he sat behind for a long time that. When the season was over, he had a life goes the celebrity outside of football and he lived that life. Agree I. Think I think there's something to be said that garoppolo learned from Brady that hey when the season is over, you got a life outside of football. You know that's time for family and all that you need to disconnect a little bit that doesn't mean Brady wasn't preparing that doesn't mean Garoppolo wasn't preparing that doesn't mean that they weren't practicing keeping themselves tiptop shape I. Mean we all know Tom Brady TB twelve all that stuff. But they did disconnect I, mean you had all those viral things from Tom. Brady, every offseason going down to Rio things like that where he lived his life and was a bit of his celebrity and played into that a little bit. But then was ready for the season I think Garoppolo. I. Don't know if it's just part of who he is or if he's learned from that example that when the season's over disconnect a little bit, your your teammates shouldn't be everything in life. That football. Right end at some point. I think it really is that guy I think I think Brady is texting people in the off season I. Mean You saw this off season when he goes Tampa Bay, he shown up at Byron left, which is House with the bag of football's like ready to go in the middle of a pandemic. I think Brady was that guy and would get on people. I definitely don't see it from Jimmy that Staley there. That's a good guess by you because I definitely see him as that guy especially with the experience of winning and getting to a super bowl, he knew what took. So if that is gone I, hope that George cadle steps up by the way one thing I want to give you credit for eleven because. You said this last week and you were a thousand percent right and I. It kept coming up during the week and every time. I was like I forgive credit for this. We were talking about Japan Kim Law because there's been a lot of praise for him so far in camp to and what did you say about your von can line all the praise? And it's all about how big he is not actually about how good he is, which doesn't mean he's not gonna be great but it's not about technique. It's not about how advanced is it's hey, this dudes really big. And all week that's all we heard Oh my God divine law. He looks good. I'll really what's he doing? He's the biggest human being I've ever seen. DEFOREST buckner is bigger than Japan Kinloch deforest buckner is like six eight to Ken laws. Six five can always got a little more weight to them but like I don't understand this when apparently whenever you talk about von Keno, you have to talk about his physical dimensions and nothing else can be said. Well. There's something to be said that football players are very large human beings, especially offensive lineman defensive Lineman and when you get somebody. Amongst that group on a team that is clearly so much bigger than all the others. You get noticed whether it doesn't matter how in what way your bigger I mean. I. Don't think inlaws bigger because he's got a lot of extra. Fat To put it. You know he's not a Gilbert, Brown, to make an older reference. He's just. Solid like you just said, he is a brick of a of a dude at a much bigger brick than any others. There are two people to former players that I saw person that like physically frightened me when I was at ESPN. The only way can describe it the. I was Jason Taylor who is just his like six, five, six, six he's absolutely shredded. He's not a big like thick guy at all. He's cut his muscles are incredible and I was like, how's this guy this big and this cut up it terrified me and the other a little less surprising. But that's Jerome Beddis like they call this guy, the bus for a reason, his upper body I've never seen human being shaped like that it was like a piece of toast with legs is the best way I could it was literally square like that and he's just huge I saw him and I was like, how did anyone ever tackle this guy? Some didn't some God bounced but. Screw. Bought a lot of trouble. All right one more thing I want to get to before we go the forty niners made a couple of minor moves they brought in Jerome Brown former Seahawks, wide receiver I never liked that by the way, keep the former seahawks awesome played and with West Enrich Berg going to start the air on the physically unable to perform list bang garland got banged up. So the team like we said earlier, it's going to sign her own Grasu. Worries you more Levin, the wide receivers or the offensive line. Right now, it has to be the offensive line that could change like like I mentioned earlier the wide receiver group has already lost one. If they lose in another guy, you know with Deebo also coming back. That becomes a major issue real soon but I think they have a lot of quality depth there. They often have line. There's changes glory there. You still treat Williams coming in while I don't think there's too much concern there. He did have a year off of football. So the there's a little bit of concern there. and. Then you've got Dan Lebron's kill is going to be starting for the first time. Is it. GonNa be starting at center with rich out certainly seems like he could be or you're going to be going to guard. There's an unknown there. And the rest of the guys on the offensive. Line. To be quite frank are all pros. They're not pro bowlers their. Average to above average players, you know mcglinchey has not taken that step into pro bowl caliber will capable. Can't say the word, but you know what? I mean. Right Typical Tomlinson is he is what is he's A quality enough to be starting. Left Guard. He's not gonNA be Great. He's not GonNa Destroy Your game plan either. So they don't have enough slack to pick up. The pieces there. If they lose somebody else I mean really the there at that point where they're already got some question marks and have one more guy goes down amongst the starters therein, a world of hurt because they're going to have a massive hole in their offense, the blind. Your. That really does worry me you know this isn't a big secret, but the offensive line is so critical to every single thing you do on offense if you have holes there, it affects everything you know if you can't run the ball well, while you put the ball on your hands of your quarterback and maybe after throw forty five times to win a game a particular week. But when the offensive line is the problem, you can't do anything and as good a a schemers cow Shanahan is you still? Need time to tax cute these plays you still need guys to block when you're having deebo com on the end around or use check do some crazy thing out of the backfield. If that's if that's going to be an issue all year, the niners are in trouble because that doesn't get any better and there's not like there's eight guys out on the street that they could go sign bring in I. Think they even reached out to Daniel Kilgore former niner niner name for you back in the day so. It's I. Don't WanNa say the word desperate right now but I'm definitely worried. Yeah, I think that's a good way to put it not desperate but worried them in there at that kind of precipice of having a major problem. Well I think that's going to do it live unless you have anything else you WANNA add. No I'm just I said, I'm Jerry Rice over here. New Jay writes. Who says themselves? They are Jerry Rice like what you're funny Mitchell over here. All really Freddie Mitchell arise. Guy, thanking his hand after he makes an incredible catch in a playoff game I, mean you you should be complemented that makes you what neither Joe Montana Steve Young or maybe you're. Late career Jeff. Garcia. I could realistically I'm probably late Career Jeff Garcia, but I'm okay with that Jeff Garcia has the most passing yards. Any forty nine or quarterback has ever thrown in a single season, which could very well change after this season. Yes, it could pose. That's true. But then I would just be late career. Jeff Garcia with the second most passing yards a very. Very not me down. Thanks for that. You can always hit us up on twitter on our new podcasts account for all the niners nation podcasts at and podcast. That's the home for everything or you can hit me up at that's on fire. Levin will argue with you ten responses deep apparently at the DA sports bomb please like and subscribe to the podcast feel free to leave us a review. 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Better Rivals Ep. 271: You might be better off avoiding free agents on offense

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Better Rivals Ep. 271: You might be better off avoiding free agents on offense

"And look he's he's taking a beating physically know that. We've we've detail you had a tough year last year physically the Baltic dick in his disk in his back. The bulging disc in his back. I'm gonna need surgery. Then okay. Eventually eventually be. Guess that fix? Welcome to this week's edition of the Niners nation dot com. Better rivals podcast. My name is Oscar operate and this week the combine is here. So, ladies and gentlemen. Spark your engines in honor of detective, we hear drinking maybe purple haze from treehouse brewing. And with me this week to defenestrate all of your takes its David Newman. David, do you know, defenestrate means, no? Now that's going to put that out there. You have no idea what that meant. And I was too lazy to look it up. You're a picture was pretty spot on though. It was hilarious. Oh that was. That's the first thing that I think of pretty much any time. I come across that situation. There was a word. I understand. I think of that scene from forty virgin. Yeah. Yeah. It was perfect absolute perfect. But all right. So true detective quick give me your thoughts that you finish it. Go. Yeah. That's exactly right. That's the reaction. I don't have a whole lot more. Like it wasn't. I didn't think it was bad. Like, I don't necessarily regret spending that time on it. But it wasn't like great in the long con of having such a shitty second season that you could have put out a steaming pile of dog poop and had it be better than season to season. Three was fine. There were moments that were really good a lot. The last episode was probably gonna cut twenty minutes. It wouldn't have mattered. But yeah, overall. All right. This is fine. This is fine. It was an eight episode season that probably would have been better off as maybe a six episode season. At is really. Well, so does that make like season two you should have been like a four episode season to season two should have been a board. It should have been aboard. I mean, it just it should not even have made a television. It was it was a little bit like saying dick instead of disk on the air on NFL network live. That's that's great open gets that fixed. Yep. Like beyond the the actual slip. They're like that's the best part is is Andrew silly on his face. Like just the horror that comes across his face when that happened in. And then just like, I hope it gets that fixed. Yep. You know, what that means though? It's the Johnson rule rule number one. So better rival drinking game gotta drink. Cheers. All right. Let's get to it. Let's get to the rundown because we actually got some minor news. I guess, of course, Cal Shanahan had some availability this week at the combine. And he said that the forty Niners will indeed exercise the fifth year option on one Mr. Eric Armstead. They will not try to renegotiate to lower his cap number. They will pay him nine million to be what is effectively a starter or rotational piece. And I know that we've kind of gone back and forth on that you thought that they wouldn't bring him back. I thought they would at least for the one year deal. And here we are that he's he's a rotational piece at nine million, which is a little pricey. But I get it. Yeah. I think when we were talking about it. I said that this would be the option that would be most surprising that they brought him back for the option as opposed to extending him and get mad cap number down. So I mean shows you what I know there. But I think like on the surface, it's fine. Like, I think it's totally good to bring back. What was probably pretty clearly your second best defensive lineman. Absolutely. Again, like the issue with Armstead is never really been his level of play. Right. When he's been out there. He's generally performed. Well, he hasn't been studied necessarily like he hasn't been a dominant player, and maybe some people still look at that being a first round pick and like feel like he's underwhelming. But he's been a good player when he's been out there. It's just been staying on the field. That's been the concern. And then this year, you kind of finally did that so yeah, I think right now you probably need more than just this offseason to transition kind of some pieces on the defensive line. And so I think bringing him back is definitely a good thing. I think for me, this this move makes a bit of sense because it is it's a little bit like the same logic that you would apply to Ford where Ford it's like, you know, what he had a one really good year. We don't know if that's the Ford we're going to get moving forward. So let's tag him at a really pricey year. And see what happens. And if it turns out that it was a one year wonder, you let them go. And that's that. If it turns out that he's actually going to be able to sustain that fantastic. Let's big deal. I'm not saying that Eric arms. Says like deformed in terms of performance, but the logic high end hasn't been there. But but the logic is is is the same. He finally played healthy. And you had a pretty good year. Second best lineman on the team better run defender than he was a pass rusher. But he was no slouch as a pass rusher. Definitely rotational in terms of pass rushing. But he would he would help the team if he was able to sustain this level of production over a sustained period of time. So you franchise, and you see what it can do for one more year and off you go, and I think that the Niners need depth on that defensive line. And it could really be a strength this year. I especially if they make some moves in the free agent category or the draft. So I think it makes sense. Yeah. I think again having good defensive lineman's never going to be a bad thing. And if you can bring him back and have a consistent role for him, even as a part time player in a rotational piece. Like that's still has a lot of value. And we know that even if he doesn't isn't looked at you know, by the time, they're finished adding pieces this offseason as the starter injuries happen like as. To go down. Like you want Armstead, right? So you wanna have pieces that you can bring in there and be able to rely on. So yeah, I think hanging onto him for another year makes sense. I thought it was interesting to take a look at other players that were making around nine million or will be making around nine million in two thousand nineteen Michael Bennett Cameron wake Jerry Hughes tire. Tyrone Crawford actually actual user what they were made in two thousand eighteen because came in wake I think is a free agent this year. But but yeah, that's that's the kind of. I I don't know that Eric Armstead is at the level of any of those at least in the effect on the pass game. But you know, and I think it's like, it sucks. Even I think talking about him in the realm of like other defensive ends because he's just he's not really easing his defensive end. Right. He he is far more in terms of skill set and interior player. You know, obviously he plays out in the edge when they're in bay situations. But I think he's still a guy that that really is better on the interior. You know, one of many that they? Have that kind of fit that mold? So yeah. Comparing him to guys like Michael Bennett and Jerry Hughes came wake like, it's not really an apples to apples thing. So the forty Niners other news to come out of the the availability from Shanahan was it. The forty Niners will indeed change up their defensive line tactics and twenty nine thousand nine this was something that met barrels alluded to when we had him on the show a few weeks ago, but the forty Niners especially with new defensive line coach, Chris Kosoric are going to employ more wide nine techniques on the defensive line. And so I think Matt's had also is that rather than trying to play run? I which is what Chris Segovia ska Nina whisper, his real name is skinny, but we're gonna keep calling him Segovia. What Jessica Nina what he really preached? What the Niners are going to do. Now. Of course is rushing the passer first, and then maybe stop the run on the way to on the way to the quarterback, which is great. It's twenty nine nineteen. Let's do it. It's it's exactly how it should be. Yeah. I think anything that you can do to make pass more of your focus in terms of what you're looking at defensively is only going to be better. Like if anything you want to entice teams into running because it's just less efficient. Right. It's going to be worse for their offense in the long run. So yeah. Hopefully, I mean, there are a number of things and changes that we would like to see that. We've talked about at length, you know, in the past things that we want to see on the defensive line work differently coming up next season. And so I think yeah, this is what is hopefully the first of many changes. So for the end initiated what the hell is the wide nine. And how does it help or hurt the the pass rushers especially in the case of the forty Niners? So why nine so again, the number techniques? Just kind of wear defensive linemen are aligning relative to their offense lineman wide nine as it suggests is just very wide. So all you're doing is is you're kicking your defensive ends out further away from the offensive tackle. So usually nine refers to kind of like outside shade of the tight end. But if you imagine not having a tight in there, but still having that amount of space kind of between the tackle on in the defensive end. Like, that's really what they're getting at. It's just we want to align them really wide in kind of send them after the quarterback. I like he mentioned in. It's something that you're usually looking at his getting after they become a pass first player as opposed to a run first player. I mean, really what it does is. It helps you the angle at which you can get to the quarterback. And it puts you more on a straight shot to get there. And if you don't have a whole hell of a lot of bend well running in a straight line to where the quarterback is supposed to be should be a little easier than trying to bend around that defensive linemen. It's something that's been employed by I think Jim Johnson with the eagles was someone. Who made that super popular? But it's it is used by the Seattle Seahawks. That's used by lots of teams at at different points of the game. But it seems like the Niners are gonna make that more a piece of the rotation when they rushing the passer in twenty nine hundred I think, yeah. Like, hopefully, what this indicates the most important takeaway that that I guess you could have from this. If this is what they end up doing. I mean, obviously a lot remains to be seen. But what I'm hoping that? This means is that they're going to actually they plan on having real defensive ends this year. And a lot of the guys they've been playing defensive end again or a really guys that are better interior players, but they've been playing out on the edge because that helps them in run defense, and they don't have anybody else to put out there. And all those reasons so hopefully, this means like, hey, we plan on having some guys that can actually rush the passer on the edge. We're going to take all of these interior players that we have and stop playing them out of position and play them on the inside us more of a rotation and just kind of us guys in ways that fit their skills better. All right. So last story in the rundown is. Actually, kind of old news at this point. But it is that friend of the pod Zac Robinson is now the quarterbacks coach for the Los Angeles. Rams. So congratulations to him, dude. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty exciting. Obviously we had him on during the preseason. Kind of talk about quarterback play in general. I've had the opportunity to work with Zach throughout the season. He's been somebody who is a very very helpful to me in my career, which has been awesome. But I mean, he very clearly understands the past game at a high level. I'm very interested to see what he does. Like, I have all the confidence in the world that he's going to go in and do. Well, he's one of the only I mean, maybe the only guy that can go in and say that he's seeing every single pass attempt from every single quarterback not only in the NFL with all the top draft prospects for the last couple of seasons. I mean that was basically what he did for us. Was you know, he had kind of the final is on every single pass place. So looking at quarterback grades coverage grades receiver grades. So he watched every single one of those preseason through the Super Bowl and all through draft season on that stuff. So I think yeah, it's very exciting to see him. Get an opportunity to go to the NFL and kind of start his coaching career and. It's going to be great to see what he does with that. So if you're interested to hear a bit more about Zach Robinson's thoughts on quarterback play what he thinks about Jimmy Garoppolo and a couple of other tidbits, we did an interview with him last offseason. It was episode two forty it is up on our megaphone feed. So take a look I posted it a couple of days ago as well. So I might retreat that in case, you're interested. But I think it's a good listen go back and you can hear a little bit from the enemy unfiltered before. It'll be fun. I mean now we're looking at not only is is Niners. Rams. We got McVeigh's Shanahan there. And it's going to be hopefully, be fun times. Once we get Garoppolo back in there and a lot of fun games. But at least for for us at PF, that's kind of become the PF bowl. I mean, we've now had two guys leave the company and go on NFL jobs one of them Zach. And then the other one is Bobby slow for the forty Niners who now is going to be transitioning to an offensive assistant from from the defensive quality control position that he's been at in the last couple of seasons. So yeah, it's just kind of pretty exciting to see guys. We've worked with go on and be able to kind of get a chance to have NFL career. And that's right. So congrats again to Zac Robinson. I think super cool, dude. Hope you do terribly with the Rams. All right. So I think that's most the news that came out of the combine week thus far. I think tomorrow, John Lynch speaks. But in terms of stuff that Shanahan said that was mostly at. I mean, he said some other stuff about coaches and getting poached and whatnot. But nothing that that merits too much of a discussion. So let's get into the free agency preview because this is part two of our free agency preview, and it's going to be focused on offense and the offensive side of the football. So it recap what the hell we're looking for. We're focused on the positions identified in our roster evaluation model from last month. So last week we wouldn't have you on defense with an emphasis on secondary. And edge this week. We're looking at offense, and we're going to focus on pass catchers and guards were focused on tier two and tier three players. These are players would expect to come in and have an impact whether that's an short term capacity or as foundational players players that you're going to try to build your roster around. Right. So those are really the most important things, right? Where we do want to focus on players that we think can come in in make an impact we're not going to spend time on guys. I mean. They're almost certainly going to need AB to add bodies at various positions. Just because they need guys on the roster. Right. We're not going to spend a lot of time on those players. So it's being able to come in and have an impact. And then also most importantly with that we want that impact to be in the passing game. So that's the area that we're going to be focused on what their game. You know, we wanna see four these offense players, obviously, it's going to be what you're doing from the receiving standpoint. You know as a pass catcher what you're doing in pass protection as a guard on defense. You remember we talked about what you're doing in coverage. What you're doing rushing the passer like that is the most important aspect of the game right now. That's what helps your team win games. And so that's the area that we're going to be focused on most. And so we we usually break things down into some cost buckets. But as you'll see when we get through some of these players there weren't enough to really break into cost buckets. So I one bucket for a lot of these guys in. It's not good. Let's get to the last bit, which is really fit matters. What the Niners ask of their players. And there's specific rules are going to be considerations on. We're looking. At the players that we're going to target and that especially is going to be the key for wide receiver and guard. So that's really the high level overview again, if you haven't listened to last week's episode, I would very much recommend it. Because that's where we focus on defense. And really in this free agent class that's going to be where hopefully than honor spend their money. And if you haven't listened to the Rosser evaluation model from last month, I would highly recommend going in tuning into that as well because that will help inform the discussion that we have here on these free agents. So let's get into the pass catchers who separates from the pack. I'm full of puns today. It's going to be great. It's gonna you know, I get like a half of an IP in me in. It's just puns all around. It's moved down like an eighth of that. Yeah. That's exactly right. But before we get into pass catchers. Let's hear from our sponsors. Everybody editor in chief of the verge. I host podcast every week called the verge cast my friends, Paul Miller, indeed or bone. We've got a rotating cast of characters from our entire site, which is about technology how it impacts culture, and how that is all. 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Do these receivers are not great. I mean, I think so we we've kind of touched on this a little bit in. I think it was when we were actually looking at the current roster right in that I I'm not necessarily opposed to bring it in a receiver. Right. It's not that. They can't upgrade their. It's not that the guys that they have are so good that you're just like now, we're we're not going to be looking for help here. But you wanna make sure that you're actually bringing in guys, right? That are better than the pieces that you have in place, or at least offer better value as well. Right. It's not just being able to bring in a guy, but you're gonna have to pay these free agents money. A lot of the fourteen hundred receivers right now are young and on rookie deals and that helps right like that improves their value. And so if you can get the same production from guy on his rookie deal is you're going to get from a guy that you're gonna sign in free agency. Like you're going to stick with that guy on the rookie deal. And so I think yeah, when you look at the receivers in this free agent classic. You have to start is right now. I think the starting receivers going into this year as the Rosser currently stands as you're looking at Dante Pettis Markey's Goodwin. And then either Trent Taylor Richie James in the slot right in. So you have to be looking at those three roles in what each of those players do and say, okay is this guy is this free agent that we might sign better at doing something than one of these guys existing on the roster and overall I think the complexion of the forty Niners a wide receiving unit while I know that team feels like they need to add another pass catcher. I don't think it's in dire straits. This is not two thousand sixteen era forty Niners wide receivers where you could basically just wipe them all out, and it wouldn't matter. I do think that you've got a couple of tier two players in Goodwin and Pettus, and then you've got some developmental players on the roster that could turn out to be some some nice pieces that already fill their role. Very well. And so really what you're looking at here is you're looking at replacing zero receiver and then maybe upgrading your slot. And maybe getting a different type of deep threat, but it's not as pressing of anita's. It was just a couple of years. Ago when you're looking at that z receiver the replacement for someone like appear go sewn you're looking at players like and again, this list is not robust, you're looking at desert. Bryant Cody Latimer and Thomas when you look at Cody Latimer. He has maybe the size profile you want. But he doesn't separate all that. Well, and that's something that Shanahan covets. Just he's not very good. If you look at his overall grade in two thousand eighteen his overall grade looks kind of okay, I think it was like seventy but it was basically a ton of average a ton of nondescript games and then one bonkers game against Dallas. Where he scored he has like two one handed receptions on fades from the slot or fades from a short set. I should say. And that's it other than that. Do just hasn't been good as entire career. He's been completely forgettable. I think there's this thing right now with forty instruments like maybe even more so than Ed rusher. I mean, not quite but like forty Niners fans right now just covet a big receiver. Right. A big guy. Quote, red zone threat. Right. We need somebody catch jump balls. We need someone and fades in the end zone because that goes well super high-percentage something that you should be doing in your offense. All the time. It really is much as pie hate the fate. I hate the Fayed almost as much as you. Hey, Vance McDonald fade the fate. You know, as as my guys, George and Eric on the PF forecast would say fade the fate. It's really just not something. That's that big of a need. Right. So I think the other thing that you really have to factor in there. Right. It's not that those guys that type of receiver doesn't have some value in the right fit right in the right place. You need quarterbacks though. I think generally you have quarterbacks that either are comfortable throwing those contested catches or they're not right there. Guys, it like to throw more to open receivers guys that are generating separation like that's their comfort level throwing accurately into those type of windows as opposed to just saying I'm going to throw this up and trust at my receivers gonna make a play. Some guys are great at that. Right. I think this is why call Philip rivers, y'all. With the bolo because he throws the ball up to people. He should not throw the ball to. But he's got a lot of contested catch receivers. And they reward him for it. And that works well for San Diego, still not gonna call them LA. I think the other place you look at right is probably like Tampa Bay like Jamie's has never met a single pass that he didn't wanna make like he's just like hell, yes. Let's do this over and over never made a pass didn't wanna make whether it'd be on the football field or a number. Like, so dude, just tossing up to Mike Evans. Right. So that's like a very good fit. Right. You look at that style of quarterback who's willing to let it go is willing to push the ball downfield, and is going to make honestly some throws that he probably shouldn't make. But that's kind of guy that you need in order to really take advantage of those contested. Catch receivers Jimmy's not that guy, or at least he has never shown the ability to be that guy. And so I think that when you combine that with the fact that Shanahan doesn't appear to like that guy, and he really prefers receivers who can separate and get open like I just like in general, I am very over the big receiver the big Cornerbacks. Like gimme guys who can separate give me Cornerbacks who can cover those guys who can separate right? Like, it's that skill level that you really need. I think those positions right now in today's NFL as opposed to just the big bodies that you can throw passes up to it's it's not an efficient way to move the football. And I think if you look at someone like does Bryant he is a guy who feasts on the contested catch at this point in his career again. Not something that Jimmy Garoppolo is going to magically turn into right away. He's also coming off of an achilles injury that happened pretty late in the season. So he's probably not going to be worth much of anything until much later in the year. And then you look at someone like to Maria's Thomas who I think has already shown pretty obvious signs of decline. And while he is thirty one roughly the age that we signed peer Garson at the way that he plays the game. I think at the similar point in his career is not quite the same. As what goes on was Carson was better at separating especially at the top of routes compared to what Demaria's Thomas dozen. So I think overall when you're looking at that like the big wide receiver or the Z there's there's not a ton there. I think neither one of them would be an upgrade over the forty Niners starting Z, which right now would be Dante Pettis and the other small part of that which we're not, you know, we'll we'll tackle this another time when we get to draft stuff. But if you are looking for that type of receiver the draft is full of them. Right. So there there's a ton of those type of players there. Go get one of those guys they're on again on rookie deal. There's nobody that really fits that mold that's worthwhile bringing in this region class. So then you move to the slot. And now, this is where things get a little bit more interesting because you've got players like golden Tate. Adam Humphreys, Dini Thomas in these in this general bucket, and I think golden Tate's probably going to be closer to that top dollar bucket. Even though his price is going to be depressed because of his age you look at Adam Humphreys, Indiana Thomas, Adam Humphreys, probably being the most proven of the bunch de Anthony Thomas being more of the the role player, but someone who could have a bit of upside. So I think the question what these players really is whether or not any of them are better than Trent Taylor. And or Ritchie James, I think it comes down to the value question really with them. Because though, so golden Tate, for instance, to me is very clearly the best receiver available in this region class right now he is the best player in a vacuum. But again, he's going to get. I don't think he's going to get some outrageous deal by any means, but he's gonna get paid relatively well. Like, he's he's. Not going to be some at least. It would be very surprising to me. If you got some sort of cheap free agent deals, so you look again is the production. You're going to get out of him worth that additional cost from what you have with guys like Trent Taylor and Reggie James. And I think right now for the forty Niners given that I think that position will be much better with Garoppolo back there. I think we saw like the difference in Trent Taylor's play alone right with Garoppolo in the lineup and in without him is to such a stark difference. I think he's just a quarterback that likes those routes that you get from those type of slot players like as much better throwing those routes. And so I think you're going to see those players have an uptick in. Now, you just by putting your quarterback back in the lineup. And then of course, you know, everything that we've said about Shanahan over and over again, and they're going to be able to scheme some guys open. So those things taken into consideration. They just don't know that any of these guys are going to be worth the cost. I don't think the production that they would bring is going to be so much more. What you're going to get from the guys that are already on the roster to justify that cost. Trent Taylor's total contract value. Not what he's making in twenty nineteen his total contract. Value is two point six million dollars. He was a fifth round pick. So is Richard James. Yep. So I'm going say, Richard James gotta be right right in that Saint in that same ballpark, right which is going to be higher, the combined total contracts of Ritchie James and Trent Taylor or golden Tate's first year on his new free agent deal. Man. I got I got to think that tape can at least pull in five million dollars as a cap it this year, right? And that's I think it just goes somewhere. Yeah. That just goes to articulate the fact that you have two players both one of which is clearly both of which are developmental, and but one of which has shown the ability to produce with a quarterback can throw him the ball, and you get two of those players for effectively the price of one over the course of their careers as opposed to one year like that. That's the value judgment that we're making here, even though golden Tate is a much better wide receiver. I think than both of those players. I don't think that the difference in their performance merits the difference. Right. And again, it's like the opportunity costs involved with that too. Right. So it's not even just comparing them to the other receivers. But it's like now, I spend this money on golden Tate, and I can't spend that money on a defensive player. Right. Where they need a ton of help it. We talked about last week all the the Edreshev safeties that are available in this class that can actually come in and help your team like that's less money. You have to devote to those guys going out and getting what is likely a pretty marginal upgrade in production with golden tater or one of these. I mean there there's some other names. They're you know, we're not gonna get into all in because I think it's the same story with really with each of them. But there are guys there. And I just don't think it's going to be worth the cost for this particular team. So when you get to the other class of wide receiver, then we're talking about deep threats we're talking about Martavis Bryant from Oakland and tyrel Williams of San Diego still calling the Molly are any of these players are any of these players really again. Same question. Right. Are they an upgrade over Markey's Goodwin? Are they are they an upgrade over the wide receivers that we have enough such that it merits bringing them in and having them take a spot of someone who may already be on the roster. Yeah. And again, I think this goes to the like, this is two levels one. I don't think that they're better deep threats even just kind of in a vacuum compared to Goodwin. They're different types. And I think it's a type that isn't as good of a fit with Garoppolo. Because again, they are more the bigger jump ball type downfield receivers, right? As opposed to guys that are going to run by people. You know, you have some of those in those this. Classes. Well, even give guys like John Brown guys like Perriman, probably fits more in that mold. So there are a couple of guys there. But again, are you getting improvement over Goodwin? I think probably not so overall the wide receivers, especially in the free agent class are not super exciting. And we're not sure that very many of them would be an upgrade over the current crop of wide receivers, and the one that would be golden Tate would be probably so expensive such that you would have to get rid of at least one of those players, and when you look at their combined contract value just make sense to stick with what it is that you have and maybe add your wide receiver through some other method, which brings us to ding, ding, ding, the trade market because that's if you're going to get a wide receiver at where you're probably going to get them at least one that's going to add significant value to your team. So let's talk about the trade market four wide receivers. Because now we get the talk about Antonio Brown older bastard, AK Odell Beckham junior and one new entrant into the fold when Mr John Ross, so. First off. Let's we've talked about Antonio Brown bits and pieces before, but let's go to coalesce. Our thoughts around on Tonio Brown. And I think the first question for Antonio Brown is what's a fair trade for making this move for the forty Niners right at what point? Do you say? You know what? Yes. That makes sense. I think it's you're looking in that mid round range. Right. I think even even a second round pick is probably. If you can get him for just that that's probably enough to pull the trigger. But it's it's tough. Because I think you know, it's not a sure thing that he's gonna come in and fit. I mean, a Shanahan mentioned today that they haven't reached out which again who knows how truth let is. But I think in regards to like front offices and teams being transparent with that sort of information like the forty Niners have been among the more transparent. So I think that they've never really hit the fact that they're going after players or interested in players in the trademark it before. But I think even if you're putting that on the table, right? You're looking at that mid round pick is really where it starts to be worth it. I think for me first round picks for quarterbacks. Like, that's really the only thing that you're trading is. So for Jimmy, you're right. Yeah. Again, who knows how that trade came together. Can't wait for the thirty for thirty on that. But yeah, I think generally like if you're giving up most of the trades involving first round picks are going to be for quarterback. So at least the Trade Center. Martyred and potentially worth it. Right. Because that's the only position that really has the impact on the field that can really justify that cost. I think even looking at other receivers even some of the top receivers and the class, it just doesn't make sense because there are so many good receivers in. It's a position that's not terribly hard to find good production from so it just doesn't really justify giving one of your most valuable assets in those first round pick. So I think yeah. When you look at that mid round range. That's when you think you start to have to really take that seriously and be very interested. But anything more than that year? You're probably backing out. All right. So overall, would you say you are yes? Or no worried about his locker room contribution slashes. You're going to be an issue in the locker room. Are you worried about that at all? I mean, it would probably be a lie to say. I'm not worried about it at all. I think generally that stuff that I don't pay as much attention to right. I think you're having to trust a lot of like second third fourth hand sources, and like people judging another man's character in you don't know any of these people, you know, they're not necessarily the most like qualified to be judging the character of another person. So I think it's just a lot of times that stuff all ends up being bullshit. But I think it would be silly to discount it entirely, right? There have been so many things that have kind of come up in regards to field stuff with him that you probably have to at least consider it. And you're going to have to trust in Kyle Shanahan, and John Lynch is ability to judge how that personality is going to fit within the locker room that they already have. And and that's basically as much as you can do is trust that they've considered this. And that they have a good enough feel for them that they think that it's not going to he's not going to be a guy that comes in and ruins like what you have in this lock. Curme already now with all Beckham junior. Really you've got a younger player which is going to drive the price up, and you've got a general lack of headaches, which is probably going to drive the price up because when you look at comparatively the headaches that you're going to get with each player. One of them manages to like kick, kicking nets or the other is going to you know, I don't know caused locker room drama and get actual legal charges brought against him which are much bigger concerns than having a hot head on the sideline. Right. And so I think with Odell Beckham the same question. What do you think would be a reasonable compensation package for trading for someone like Odell? Oh, I don't think that it is a package that exists. So like, I think that the giants have a price in mind that is too high that no other team is going to be willing to pay. Yeah. I'd say it's probably it starts with the first round pick. And and then you add something else. It's probably another second or third in the same year or. Or another. I mean, you're basically talking about damn near quarterback trade at that point. And I don't think it's worth it. And so taking cost into account then of the two players knowing that although Beckham is younger and more dynamic less locker room headache. Antonio Brown is older but would come into at a reduced price. Because of all the other crap that we mentioned if you had to pull the trigger on one of the two traits, which would you prefer if I had to I'm going to go with Brown. But I think the timing of this matters in. You know, not to not that this is going to be something that we discuss heavily here. But I think it just it adds into the trading down from two right? If you trade down from two you get likely in abundance of extra picks, and it becomes much more feasible and much more realistic for your team to be willing to give up those picks and not really hurt your long term future. Because again, this is a team that needs a lot of pieces. They're not an end Tonio Brown or Odell Beckham away from from being one of the top teams in the league. Like they need a lot of help defensively. And so if all of a sudden, though, you have a bunch of extra picks that you've acquired from trading down from two because somebody wants to go up and get a quarterback like then you can flip one of those for Antonio Brown. And it's just you know, that that's I think the clear benefit of trading down from two. Whereas right now, if you're going to stick it to when you're going to go with the pixie you have and you give up that second round pick right now to get in Tony. Brown before the draft. I think that's a tough situation that you're putting your like, I don't know. It's it's still probably worthwhile. Because he is still a very very good player. And I think that you know, his game isn't a he's not a player that's going to that. I'm worried about like falling off a cliff in the next year to I think like you can feel very confident that you're going to get high level play for him from him for the next couple of seasons. And that's going to be worth that second overall that second round pick. But it just makes so much more sense for your team overall in the long term if you have some extra picks to deal with now just for shits and giggles, because I'm interested you are offered a trade back and scenario number one that trade back involves Jalen Ramsey and scenario to it's a trade back with an indiscriminate team. But you get extra picks, and Jalen Rennes is on the table. But you've got to use one of those Antonio Brown which way do you go man, we're really getting super hypothetically. I mean, I'm going with Jane Ramsey. This free agent class is not. Good on offense. We need time to kill God. Dammit. Yeah. I mean, fair fair point. I think no question you're if the Jaguars are really that intent on getting rid of their best player then. Sure. Yeah. You're gonna take. Jalen Ramsey with whatever else you can get by by having them move down or having the move up. I think. Yeah. Having a player of that caliber at cornerback is so much more helpful for your team. Whereas again, like the forty Niners had a top five passing offense with Garoppolo in their Garoppolo and Shanahan with and a bunch of like receivers that aren't the other mostly what they have. Now. Maybe worse, you know. Very they were still a top five passing offense in terms of efficiency during those five games. So like, they don't need that guy. The Jalen Ramsey acquisition would absolutely help this team more than Odell Beckham are Antonio Brown. One. The one player that I thought was interesting that has been recently rumored to be on the block is John Ross from Cincinnati bangles are allegedly shopping him. And I can't imagine it would require a super high draft pick to prime away from Cincinnati in just two seasons with the Bengals. Well, after of course, posting the fastest forty time in combine history. Four point two seconds. He appeared in just three games and failed to catch a pass as a rookie in two thousand seventeen your too was a little better twenty one receptions for two hundred ten yards over thirteen games. But he had seven touchdowns tied with Boyd Ford the highest on the team. And so overall he's had kind of like a season. He's been largely disappointment Cincinnati. But he's got first round tools. He was of course, Dante Pettis is wide receiver maintenance Washington. And when you look at what? What he has the physical tools to do you think to yourself? Well, like fourth round pick fifth round pick. Maybe if if Cincinnati is like, screw it. We want everyone to have a fresh start. And I feel like that's the kind of move that could indeed help the Niners where it's like a low risk. But you could get yourself a first round wide receiver that develops. And I think that would be an interesting place to go. If you're looking at a market where you can get wide receiver talent. Yeah. I think I think it's interesting. I think it's worth exploring for sure because I mean, he was player coming out that had a lot of tools to work with a lot of things like about his game. It was obviously the speed is there. But there was more the thing that's kind of separated him was there was more to that. Right. He actually had some route running ability had the ability to run a more developed route tree as opposed to just kind of flying deep down the field. And I think there are some interesting things there. I think you know, even a fourth round pick is probably like his valid totally agree. It's hot is so low right now, and I think. If they're just desperate to get rid of him, and you can flip a late round pick. Then by all means you should be interested in that. Because it's just like, you know, again, a sixth seventh rounder fifth rounder. Even maybe you're just not going to likely find a player with his talent level, you know, at that position. So, but yeah, I think you look at some of the receivers, you know, I think what I think moss and the patriots got moss and Josh Gordon for around a fifth round pick Gordon was a fifth or was a fifth. Yeah. So I mean, there are better receivers that have with like at least some history of production in the NFL that have gotten kind of that mid round pick range by the time that they were traded. So I think you're looking at a guy that has basically done zero in his time in the NFL so far like it's gotta be pretty bargained golden Tate was what like a third or fourth round pick something around there. And golden Tate is easily like did more in his career, and is a better wide receiver at least at this point than John Ross. So I think but. Too. I think if it were me, then if we're talking about a fifth or sixth round pick. Hell, yeah. I'm doing it. I mean. Yeah, if you can take, and it makes sense, right? Because they have new coaching staff coming in Cincinnati like it's absolutely move where they're like. Okay. Maybe we just don't want to deal with it. And we're going to be willing to kind of like we just kind of want to get this guy out of here. Get a fresh start get some of our guys in and if you have an opportunity. Yeah. Flip elite round pick for them. Why not the Niners just got a a six round compensatory pick which can't be traded. But that means that they can trade their sixth round pick and still have a six round pick at the end of that round. Now, Joe good berry at the ethnic. He looked at wide receivers that cut zero passes their first season did like, okay, what happens with his career because on the one hand if you're the pessimists, and you say look John Ross is trash the guy as a rookie did nothing and it's not like he was drafted super high. He cuts zero passes the first season that puts them in a lustrous category of wide receivers. Like, Tim Carter Liqun Treadwell Sonora moss. AJ Jenkins and Jerome Simpson. But the flip side of that is that there are a few outliers from that list players that had zero catches that rookie year that went on a habit. Serviceable NFL career. Josh doksan. Vincent, Jackson, Santana moss. Those types of players certainly not going to be in the hall of fame. But not absolute garbage either. The one thing that those players had in common was that in the second year they contributed four or more touchdowns to their to their teams. And that means that they probably just got used. They were a part of the offense. And we know that touchdowns aren't necessarily stable year to year. But it just means that they were active in their offense. And so not to say that that's predictive. But that's where John rouse was last year scored seven touchdowns. So if you're looking at like bright side, not bright side, that's kind of where he lanes. I think it's still worth the risk. If you're talking about like a six round pick her leader again. And that's kinda the point is that there's basically zero risk involved with that type of move, right? You're bringing in a player who was pretty much universally considered to be a first round talent as a couple. Seasons ago. And you're hoping that a change of scenery in a very pass friendly offense. Right. That has been able to get production out of nearly any piece that you wanna throw into it. Is just going to be beneficial for his skill set in the you're going to be able to get more out of that. So I think yeah. If that's a vailable you have to you have to consider it for sure you have to look into it. And probably makes more sense. Like, honestly, like, I just don't think that Shanahan is a guy that is so infatuated with those top receivers that they're going to be willing to give up a lot of compensation for ground and Beckham. Right. I think this is a deal that is more realistic for the team to make. Yeah. So unfortunately, the Bengals director of player personnel. Duke Tobin, which as a name never trust a man with two first names or a fake title for that matter. But Duke Tobin called this story fake news, which I think is the first time I've heard someone in the NFL use that as a description of news, which makes me real happy about Duke Tobin. But but yeah, so he threw a bit of a cold water on this whole idea. It could just be them trying to make sure they don't bottom out the market for John Ross and trying to make it seem like they actually have some value for him. But if the NFL report is to be believed, John Ross is available. And I think that's someone that the Niners could get after. So overall, the free agent. Class not great at wide receiver. Definitely a place where the Niners are going to maybe get more value out of the trade market. And if you're looking at a reasonable trae that's not going to break the Bank. You're hoping Antonio Brown keeps riding that bleach. Blond moustache into depressed value or Jon Rauch, John Ross becomes available. God that mustaches so terrible. It's awful. It's like, the world's worst milk mustache. It's terrible. It's so awful it worst. Yeah. It's like he drank bleach. And that's and that was the result. It's honestly when you're mustaches that color, you might as well drink bleach because that's the only outcome. Let's talk about guards though because guard. Sure, why not. Yeah. Because the revolving door at right guard continues, and this is one area where there may be some cost buckets that we can break these free agents down into and so let's start with the top dollar guard category. And the first and only player in this category is the shrug emoji because my question and the first question in this group is does the team value? Guard high enough to give anyone a top dollar deal. I think no I think this was kind of a lesson that we learned last year, right? Like last season there were actually guards in this category that we're very much worth paying and and that we're quality players, right? And we talked a lot about them during these episodes last season. And then of course, what are they do? They went out and got a rich Berg instead westerners Bergen. So that was where they decided to to kind of devote their money on the interior. And I think that that kind of, you know, looking back on that after the fact it was like, yeah. Okay. This kind of makes sense giving Shanahan's history. Right. They kind of value tackle play and then center play which he uses a very key piece to his run game in. So that's kind of the area on the offensive line that he's going to spend money. I don't think that they're going to be a team that spends big at guard. And so I think that one. Yeah. You're you're unlikely to see the forty Niners make that sort of move. But then too there's not really a player like this, isn't that? Same class, right? As last year where there are those kind of top level players. I don't think there's anyone that gets that kind of level of contract that you saw guys like norwell and Josh Sitton. Get last season, even Lincoln Tomlinson. Who is like the the story for the Niners. He is their poster child of reclaiming someone getting them for value for I think fifth round pick or whatever it was from Detroit and then rehabilitating him in the rehab that is the forty Niners offensive system. And now he is a guard of that makes four million a year, which is not a lot. I think when it comes to guards that mid level or lower is the place they want to play. And that's where they've played historically at guard lake in Tomlinson was originally brought in for a fifth round pick definitely not someone that you would pay that you plan to pay a ton of money to you think of Jonathan Cooper, another kind of mid level or bargain bin guy, Mike person, mid level, bargain bin guy, Brandon Fusco, mid level bar or bargain bin guy that's the area where the Niners wanna play and of the players in that. Area. We're looking at Quinton Spain, Mike person and Andy Levin trae who are in that kind of middle level area. Where we think the Niners are going to play first question. I have for this category is really less. So about the players that are available and more. So about what the team has on the roster right now are you comfortable with Josh Garnett being your top option going into the season? If the Niners don't sign another guard. No. No, I'm not. Yeah. I think it would be very hard to become from that. I mean while on one hand, you he has some talent. Right. I think there's there's a reason that you liked him in the first round to begin with as we've talked about. I think he is just a much better fit in another type of offense. He came from a scheme at Stanford that while yes, they do run zone. I mean, everybody pretty much runs at least some zone at this point. But they are much more gap oriented scheme. They're running power counter. You know, those type of of run plays in so the type of blocks associated with those are going to be different. And I think he is very good at those type of blocks. And then they give you went to a system that utilized that type of stuff more. He might be very good, right? He might be much better player, or at least have some value. But I think one yet he's struggled with those sort of like movement blocks, right? He hasn't had the sort of movement skills that you really like to see from guys in his own scheme and then to when again, far more. Importantly is. He just struggles as a past predictor like that's been kind of his weak link the entire time. And that's not a great week linked to have you would much rather have the guy that is better protecting the passer right because that's going to be the most important thing for you as an offensive lineman. But I think if they're deciding that they want to roll the dice with with garnet going into the year. I think that's a bit concerning because while I don't know that you'd want. You don't need to have a great driven like average player at every position. But you need to avoid a player. That is terrible. Right. Like, if you have kind of that one really awful guy up front like that can expose you right because we'll call it the same Beatles ruled right exactly like you can have just one poor player. And have that be enough to kind of screw up? What you're doing? You know, even run game standpoint in pass protection, obviously. So you want to avoid that. But as long as you can get to adequate you're gonna be fine. I just don't know that garnet is that. So if you're thinking about movement blocks. Is being kind of the defining factor for the forty Niners. And it seems like that's where they've tried to get to their guards. They've gone to players that have been in the system before like my person or they've tried to get players that they feel can make that kind of jump in the zone blocking scheme. Then the question is which free agent guards are the best zone blockers. So I think there's really three that you're looking at and one I think we forgot to list here, which is Roger SAF old coming from the Rams, then you have Andy Levy trae coming from the falcons and then Quinton Spain from Tennessee. So I think those three players when you look at what they've done blocking own some because I think while again, we're we're more concerned with what they're doing is past protectors, and then is to narrow the pool the forty Niners are going to you know, they obviously are not at a point where they're completely giving up on the run game and don't care and value. I mean, you hear about college Shanahan, it's not just lip service for him. He does believe in the foundation that is the run game and the run game in the zone run game. Specifically helps key his passing game. Right. Like the zone action. Is what makes the play action game with with his system, so effective? And so I think yeah, they are going to identify players that can zone block. Well, and so I think when you focus in on that to kind of narrow your pool a little bit. It's really those three guys are the ones that stand out as players who have excelled well on those type of blocks. So I think you have Sappho in vitro coming from basically the exact same scheme. Right would Drake coming from Atlanta SAF old running McVeigh's scheme last year? Those guys both are a little bit older. And so I think you're hoping that you know, maybe you can get some value there. Yes. I think the additional question here would be is someone like Libby trae who's getting up there into his thirties. I think he's like thirty two or thirty three thirty three. I think he is he hitting an age because he's also coming off of injury. And is that is that double edged sword something you wanna play with double-edged? Meaning you could get some value there because he's coming up in dreams, and he's a little older, but he's also coming off injury. And he's a little older, right? I think I'm less worried about. Out injury. His suicide injury was like a triceps injury. So I don't think that that's like it's not something that's going to impact his mobility or or anything like that. And prior to injury. He was still playing. Well, right. So you look at his twenty seventeen season was still you graded basically about about where he's been out for most of his career, which is kind of like a slightly above average player. And so I think you're not seeing really as many signs of decline in. I'm not terribly concerned about the injury. And I think offensive line is a position where you can play a little bit older. Right. Like thirty three you can still be very serviceable at that age and be fine. So I think SAF olds a little bit younger. Then I think you have some similar concerns from an aid standpoint with him. Yeah. And so I think it really depends like it's so often does with free agency. What does it cost, right? And I think sample is going to be a bit more expensive than someone like Libby trae. In part because he's coming off of a very very good season four guard. But also because he's got I think he's going to have the Los Angeles shine on him as well. And I think he's going to be one of the he's going to be in that Josh sitting realm because sitting last year was a little older he was in his thirties as well. And he got a pretty decent sized contract. But it was still a shortened contract. And I think that's probably what sampled will end up with. So if you're looking for value, it's which is where the Niners wanna play it's going to be more of the Lavizzari or maybe even Mike person. And I think that's the one of the last questions from me in this category. Is why not Mike person he played a fairly decent? Okay season. Right. You're talking about not needing super average or super phenomenal guard play. I would say he was an average guard. He was a much better pass blocker than it was a run blocker. I think if the Niners are not looking to resign him that's more than likely why because as zone blocker. He was not great even though he was a decent enough pass protector. But the offensive line wasn't terrible. Specially when they got decent quarterback play. And what are you gonna get next year? You're going to get a quarterback who can actually make his offensive line a little better. So why not take another midyear flyer and go with Mike person again? I mean, I think that would be okay. I think he's a pretty clearly would be the cheapest of this group. So I think that certainly factors into it. And in again. Yeah, I think you feel comfortable that he's okay, right. Like, he wasn't great. Like, he's by far the weakest player on that offense wind the weakest of the five, but yeah, he's I think above but we've had another weaker. Yeah. But we'd had much weaker pass production at that guard spot, I guess is to and and the thing is he he to me was an above average pass blocker overall. And that is enough that at the cost that he would come at. I think it's great. And I mean, he even though he wasn't a great zone run blocker. He was he didn't really hurt the overall offensive line run game production. If anything it got a little. This year, and especially could run both of the left and right. That was in large part. I'm sure because of my mcglinchey, but it's like if it's going to be cheap is all holy get out. Why not roll with it? Because I while Quinton. Spain would be a great addition. He's twenty eight he's the youngest of the group. I also think that he he would probably not cost an exorbitant amount of money, and he would be someone that could be with the team for like three or four five years. But if you're not gonna be able to get someone like in Spain, I think you maybe signed someone like person you see if you can get some competition with Garnett and then you draft someone and call it a day. I think we're Spain goes or how much he gets will be interesting because he's kind of actually coming off a more of a down season. I mean like things in Tennessee didn't go super well in general, but when you look at his career so far so he's just kind of coming off of his rookie contract. He's been very consistent as a pass protector. So he's always grated. Pretty well. Bending kind of that mid to upper seventies range for us in terms of pass blocking. It's the run blocking grade that's fluctuated a bit more. But he's always been a better zone blocker than a gap scheme blocker every single year of his career. He's graded out better on those type of runs by a pretty significant margin. And I think you look last year you see is overall run blocking grade was down in the fifties. But it was almost all because of what he did on gap skiing run. So he's been a much better zone blocker. So think that's potentially a guy that you know, who knows what the market's going to be like, I think you're probably right. He's one of the younger guys. Maybe that's enough to get him. Him a little bit bigger deal. But if he doesn't find much of a market there because people are thinking that he's coming off kind of a down year. And I mean, he's an undrafted guys who doesn't have that big pedigree. Right. That gets you kind of those autumn attic second chances if his value starts to fall a little bit. I think he's a player that the Niners. Could maybe look at look he's better at what we want him to do. And so maybe we can kind of bring him in value. And I think something like that would make sense if that's the way it falls. But yeah, I think this isn't a position while there are a couple of good options there that they could go after I don't think that they should feel the need to go and get one of these top guys and kind of spend more than they need to at this position. They have the players in place that they want kinda keep positions long, the offense of line Shanahan sees it. And I think that money would largely be better spent swear. So then we get to the bargain bin. And we've got a couple of players that I really hope that I noticed go after Jonathan Cooper, Mike, you potty. I think these are these are the. Players that, you know, the boomerangs if you will. I'm just kidding. Yeah. Sure. Good. Yeah. No Jonathan Cooper been there done that don't wanna ride that bicycle twice. And Mikey potty is old and better fit for gaps is Josh Garnett. If you were good. I mean, that's basically. Josh burnett. If he actually had some value at the moment. Jesus. Wow. All right. Didn't mean this to be a judge carnival ceratinly? Sure. Why not? Hopefully, you know, I've been told by all the beat writers cities like remade his body. Yes. That's exactly right. His completely reworked everything that was working against him for twenty plus years. He played alright in like the sixty or so and he got a ban at the at the end of the year. He plays lines. Not good. I'm not saying he's good. I'm saying he played finding a super small sample size. When he wasn't injured because he got injured again. I think that's probably my biggest worry with him. Is that like he got he's he's another guy where like your best ability is the ability to be on the goddamn field and has been nonexistent. No non-existent form at all. So I think overall when you're looking at a free agent additions on the offensive side of the ball. The things are not looking promising. The biggest most exciting area for the forty Niners to add talent is probably going to be in that trade market if they can get value for someone like John Ross, but overall tight ends. We haven't even actually forgot to cover tight ends. Because it's basically Jerry tells you everything you need to know about tight ends tight ends with the people we listened to cover were Jared cook and leaving Toilolo which and toil alot because he played for a couple years in Shanahan in two thousand fifteen and twenty sixteen relatively good pass blocker didn't distinguish himself all too much and Jared cook, it's like why are you going to spend money there? You've got George kill. I mean, I think if you're going to which again, yeah, I wouldn't spend money to do this. But I think if you're trying to say like, okay, why would they add a tight end? I think the tight end that they need is another pass catcher. Right. Like. Kiddo is kind of your do everything guy. He's great. Obviously in the receiving game. He's great as a blocker. And so you don't really tip your hand with him on the field from run pass standpoint. And then what they could use as you know, another guy that can be receiving threat because they don't really have that at that position. You telling me Ross dwell is under receiving threat. I might be. Yeah, sounds right. I forgot between Cole weakened Ross dwelling. We cut one of them because he like dropped a pass or something I should cut both of them. They have stupid names for one. My favorite was when we played like, Harry Potter character, forty Niner. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure Ross dwelling. It was all tight ends. Like what the hell was going on there? That was just a bunch of strange decisions. I'm going to lie. Yes. So I think that's what you're looking at you know, even if they were to to add a tight in the draft. That's the guy I would expect them to add. And like, let's be real. Nobody gives a shit about the run blocker that you're going to add to come in there for like ten snaps or less a game. Like, it's just not a position that matters. If you're looking at purely kind of a blocking specialist so whole week was the guy we cut he's now with Tennessee. Cool and Roswell. He's the guy that we kept will soon be with Tennessee or some other team. Yeah. And Ross dweeb week fifteen weeks sixteen week seventeen one reception. Six yards against Los Angeles. Cool cool story rouse cool story, bro. Yeah. So I think that's like again, I don't expect them to go after Jared cook. But if you're if you're trying to make an argument for why they would look that direction. Like, that's it is that you could just use another like, that's maybe their best option to upgrade as a receiving threat. Right. Yeah. It's kind of the area that maybe you could go after that improved. But you're already looking at you know, you're bringing in jerick McKinnon injury. Hopefully, like again, I think he looked to the draft for for some of the stuff if you're going to be looking for anything else offensively. But yeah, there's not a whole lot there to look at it tight him. Yeah. I think if you're looking at a player, you're looking at someone like toiler who takes that third tight end spot because I don't know that any of the players that were kind of on that free agent list or a ton better than someone like Garrett Celik, and that's not to say that Garrett Celicas a fantastic tight end. He's got issues just about everywhere. Right. And he's got issues full stop. Yeah. And he's a fun. He's a. Fun player because he's kind of woven himself into the fabric of the select time, right, which I think is fun. It's great. Yeah. It's one of the drinking game rules, chug your beer when it sell it time. It's great. I love it. But but overall, I think that you know, he he's the the fact that the tight ends in free agency are not like that guy's better. Obviously better than GARRETT'S Alikhan is worth the money should tell you what you need to know the guys like toilet are very much the dipping into the. They're not going to like these are the guys that we were trying to say that we weren't focused on like. Yeah. Sure. If they add somebody like that like fine. Who cares? It's not going to be any sort of impact on how well they perform this. Yeah. You've got Jesse James Nick boil max Williams Tyler I for RIP his injury history. Yeah. It's just it's. Yeah. I mean, I I I guess if you wanna bring up I mean, I think all the same things that we talk we brought him up last year. And nothing's changed. Yeah. These in the exact same situation except for I guess he's had another year where he ended up on. And was unavailable which honestly would disqualify at this point would disqualify. I think it's tough to trust that you're going to get anything from him at all even even he's like far and away the most talented player available, but you just can't count on getting anything from him. All right. So I think that does it for our free agency preview on offense. It was not great not nearly as fun as the defensive preview, but we do them because we have to. We're contractually obligated to do. So I get this one. We're just go straight to the draft. Yes. Scores combine coming up. Yeah. So I think I mean what we're looking at next week combine will be over. So we'll combine wrap up next week. And then we'll also talk about general strategy, kind of coalesce. Everything in the what it is that we wanna do which it should be. If you've listened to both episodes, pretty obvious. They're they're going to be no surprises. Yeah. But we'll we'll we'll keep it on a couple of players, and we'll keep it on just like firm strategy. What does it? We think we are off season plan would be in free agency what we would target in the. We should also know if any of these guys are gonna tag believe Zafran just take deadline is like the day before we're set to record. Maybe we'll have some more news coming out of this. Combine is far as guys getting extended or or anything like that. Hopefully have a firmer picture of who's actually going to be available once freidan C opens. And then that'll set the map for the draft. Because that will then give us an idea of what positions we hope to target in the draft who we're gonna scout. What we're going to spend some time on and we'll go from there. So that's going to be the next couple of weeks overall. So things are gonna pretending in you can always shoot any questions thoughts or items you have to us on Twitter. You can get me at better rivals, David work, and they get you. That'll be at PF underscored David. 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