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Easier vinnie bonsignore is driving the car. Right now we're on our way back to las vegas because that's how we roll. We're all in this family wagon. Gmc heading back to las vegas right now so adam. What did the raiders get right in this victory over the chargers will they got right finding away and i mean that's what this team has been able to do that. You know you've got three off off its environment. Now you're losing cornerbacks throughout the game. It was a defensive lineman throughout the game you. You're down to needing to make a defensive stop on a defensive. Spend much lined all season and they just found a way to win and i think that's the biggest takeaway That you have from this game. And it's theme of this raiders team. It's you know. They haven't been favourite since week one and a game and they go into every single week. And you're thinking well. This is the week that they're going to fall apart and they're not gonna find a way to win. That's just not who they are. This is a team that finds a way their resilience and they showed that once again today. Whether it's you know needing to score points to win or whether it's eating to stop somebody that's way whether it's a guy that has barely played any snaps on defense in the last five weeks you know getting lined up against in having to face. Don't against them in any way to knock them both away. Like that's just what this team is right now. I think it's fair to say that's what their identity. So i have to agree with you there. And as we still learn about this raiders identity. there's been a ton of injuries. So they like adam said is are still trying to find a way to win to make things happen amid the injuries. Trayvon molin goes out of this game. Alec ingold goes out of this game. Ed isaiah johnson. Obviously next man up. and how. Do the raiders. Basically come back from these injuries as things start to mount with them and like adam said about isaiah johnson just his performance. We didn't get to see a lot of last year because he was injured. So how did you see. Isaiah johnson stepping into this role when trayvon molin went out. Yeah i thought he did a terrific job. I mean the two most important plays of the game. He was involved when knocking the ball away allowing the raiders to win Derek carr brought up a point. Afterwards it then isaiah. John talked about. He lost a the death of a former college teammate. At university houston a really really good friend of is this week so we played on his mind though a week. Derek carr said team just kind of wrap their arms around johnson and was there for him and then for the he had to come in now in his second year for ten ton of injuries. News out for most of the year didn't really do anything for him to commit. These kinda plays on the road to get them another road. Victory is huge. And when you're chasing the chiefs trying to stay ahead of two other teams. Sometimes you just need guys at no one. Expect to do things you know. I mean that happens all time in sports and today it was his turn to kind of be that person that no one at the beginning of the game would have ever said isaiah johnson was gonna make the two most important plays of the game. But that's what happened. And that's what's cool about sports and it's a really good win for them to be five and three with that schedule after the first half of the season I'm sure everyone wants to be no in terms of in that locker room but five and three is a really good record given play and they're definitely closing in here on that wild card position. What they really needed to do was be able to string together. Some wins. This went obviously being key. Because it's a divisional opponent out on the chargers for what it's worth just can't seem to get it together. They keep squandering leads a big he just causing different turnovers things like that. Would you say it's more so on the struggles of justin herbert or is it just that this team is still struggling to find its identity early. Wouldn't say struggles of justin her. I'm the guy we got has been far better than expectations. He he just continues to put up big numbers in the. You like a lot of what you see out of him. He's he's poison the pocket he you know he he makes good reads he makes good throws a balkans on hand really well for the most part. He's just he's got all the time of the world and that's what made him a top pick. It's it's about learning to win the nfl. There wasn't really much he can do today. I mean it was a dropped punt really. That was a major difference in the game today. You know a couple times early in the area was last week. It was not not playing right with a lead. It was taking a dump chance downfield that gets intercepted and kind of leading to a blown lead a couple of weeks ago. Kind of the same thing as the chiefs. They had a chance in a position to win and he took a foolish shot. Downfield that he'd never should've taken but these aren't on him and these are also. These are the lessons that you learn along the way. This is how you get better. I think anybody that watches him knows he's going to be a very very good player in this league for a long time. But you have to learn to win and really. That's what sports is. I mean we talk about isaiah. Johnson in the plays that he made at the end of the game. In the raiders. Resiliency overall. It's also resiliency within a game. One of the things johnson said is. Hey i got beat on a play earlier and beat me. And i i think they thought they could do it again. And it's about. Hey i learned from that. I i see what did i see that i will. You know i was beat on that. I have to make i and stop at this time. Because they're gonna make you prove that you're not gonna make that same mistake and he didn't and you know those are the that's a sign of a good player. It's it's learning from things that go wrong and learning from mistakes. And i think you're gonna see dustin herbert do that eventually. And eventually the winds will come But i think what you see out of out of him. Today is a guy that just going to be a really good player in the league for a long time. Just it's just the process and then they're going through that it's not really on and adam. I want to stick with you on that just because what you wrote. Today in the review journal was about Derek carr you opened up with that. Hurdling play that he had and somebody in the game asking him if he could dong. Hey don't ask me if i could. Of course i can get silly question. derek carr also addressed the fact that he's been learning this system under gruden. It's taken him a while to get justed. Things are finally starting to click together for him. What did you make of cars performance today even though when you look at it. Statistically it wasn't the greatest performance on turf but still he is making plays when it matters and making clothes legs and i think you saw with the big played outfield to hunter renfrow where he was poised. He understood what things car continues to talk about this year is. It's not just learning the plays. I think a lot of people look at that and say. Oh you're learning the plays like no you know the place but it's it's having an understanding within those plays and you saw that on the renfro play where he's only out to the right. Yeah he could run it. It may be make a play with his legs. Tried to get to the first down marker but he also has. He has the wherewithal to say okay. I understand that in this play or hunter renfrow is against. This defense can direct him go deep. There's open space. I have time to process that and make that happen. And then he makes perfect though now field and then you'll later on the hurdle you see him making those those bath leading played because he understands. That's the right play making in that in that moment and then as far as the donkey goes listen. I believe that their car can dunk a basketball. Absolutely do i believe that as he said he could vert no he kept verte. He's not standing under the rim jumping up and dunking it. But he's a very athletic player and you saw that out of him now he said as khalil mack and i listen if khalil mack response and said he him do it. We'll find out. But i can dock. Yes one hundred percent. I believe i'm just stopped. Buying on the verge. And who is he playing with that he's saying to stowed at the rim and i'll go find it and dunkin insanity this is not happening there are but Said all all in good fun. After victory for the raiders but Just very very impressive performance. I thought by car. It's not always about numbers i think. That's that's what we get caught up in a lot of times is how many for how many touchdowns did he have not always what it's about. It's about finding a way to win in understanding game situations. And i think you're seeing their car do more and more of that and let's get into it here on the defense because the had a couple of sacks obviously brought up that fumble recovery off the muff punt that kyle wilber picked up so when you start looking at this defense because you do the grades you handle them and i saw. I saw the grade that you put in there. I believe it was a c. minus on defense Was the reasoning behind your grade. And what did you make of the place that they did make. The bottom line is made the plays had to in the end. I thought You know they were put in a position where you know. I think jon gruden kinda put the game in their hands not going for it on fourth in to start the fourth quarter Taking the carlson field goal over Going forward on fourth too late in the game. But i actually agree with that one because you have to make the chargers who can charger themselves into a loss at anytime. Drive the field and you know lose games. They still have a big big problem. Getting off the field. On third and long the raiders. They state there too soft or their overaggressive or whatever but they can't get off the field on third down. I think the chargers today were. I wanna say sixty percent range On third down conversions So they did. Get some pressure today though i thought they got to sat for the raiders. That's a huge game. Usually mass crosby carlina sip had thought cleveland for all play pretty well for current quarterback hurries. He had a tackle for loss. But they gave chauncey yards The a really difficult time Guarding middle screens in drag routes especially with tina now not announce cain announced so a lot of people are topple defending him but there were plays actually where they were fortunate to get pressuring her because dad's were just run an open all day in the secondary in the plays it. They needed a pressure. They did or there would've probably been a lot bigger yards gained by the chargers so again they needed. They made the plays in. They're supposed to make the plays and is agents. We've already talked about him a lot. They're just a defensive each week when they win kind survive and they survived at the best way today by getting the win and making the plays in they need to do wasn't a great defense performance by any means but You know they like i said. They for the raiders defense date they ranked twenty fifth. I believe in points allowed in the lead. Twenty third in yards allowed to leave. You know they're just not an overly good defense but today when it mattered. Most in the coach. Put it in their hands. They got that last. Play all right. Let's go ahead right there and take a quick break and when we come back. We'll talk more about this raiders win over the chargers in los angeles as we head back to las vegas. You got hurt in an accident now. You need the right lawyer to help you. Don't hire a do nothing. No call no show lawyer. We are sam. Nash and we are different. We've recovered over four hundred million dollars for our clients and we promise to always call you back the same day while no one can guarantee an outcome in your case we have the experience to get you the results that you deserve so call us at seven. Oh two eight two zero one. Two three four or visit. Sam and ash dot com. Because you deserve what's right. 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It's heidi fang et grainy outta hill and bonds and you're driving the bus as we head back to las vegas. Where in the car right now. So if it sounds like. We're all in close quarters with because we are so we've been talking. All about the raiders win over the chargers thirty one twenty six again The big isaiah. Johnson stops at the seal. The victory for the raiders We've talked about cars performance but We have to talk a little. Bit about devante booker and josh jacobs. Getting it done on the ground over one hundred and thirty yards that they combined for each scoring a touchdown so this surgery of devante booker has been something. I think that the raiders have really benefited from this part of the season. What have you made of his resurgence. A so to speak with this team. He's really good. You know selfishly. Obviously on the twenty four yard touchdown not happy should have been jacobs fantasy player but And i worry about every time. Devante booker That it's not josh jacobs. But yeah he's been a really good back jacobs time to Take some series off. And i think he's been a good addition I allow handed over to atom but last week they ran the ball because they had to in. That horrible will Whether this week they kinda ran to set up the pass a little when they hit agwu lar and then all sit it. Renfro citing devante booker has been a nice addition. I mean he's what you'd expect from a backup running back comes in and gets positive yardage and he had a nice touch down today. I'll say you said they ran the ball out of the past. I think that's absolutely true. In this case. Because i want to give credit to the offensive line and it's going to sound maybe a little bit Backwards but it's not. They really really struggled early. And we know the struggles that they've had in terms of keeping guys on the field and today you go in. Colton miller misses the first game for the first time in his career. Trent brown nose out which he cuck neto still at i r and you just kind of plug in all these gaps in the come out on the first series and they were they just look awful and trying to protect car for the first two throws but credit to them for for really bouncing back and i think what. The raiders did in credit to the staffer. This is they said. Okay run blocking for divine tends to be a little bit more Able to get you into the game. Get aggressive you can fire off the ball. Try to hit somebody instead of trying to do the more nuanced pass protection and so they were able to get them going in the running game and letting the block. And he saw jackson rodney hudson. Pull on that on that. Play for devante booker. They got out front and you saw the offensive line. Really start to get a little bit of confidence from getting that run game going. And that's how they were able to then then go to the past the defense off their you know off their he'll or on their heels a little bit not let them just couldn't years back in go and so your credit all around to the office of line for bouncing back from that slow start to the to the coaching staffer got away to be able to get them in position To you know to do a little bit better and have more success and then of course the running backs For taking advantage of the holes over there and the book on his touchdown wasn't even touched as he said could have been shannon flag football so all credit all around to them But really that just leads us to the important thing is that ed we have new information on derek carr dunk gate referring to this Someone has posted a video on twitter as we speak. And derek carr has re tweeted it. It is derek throwing down a dunk and it's impressive. I'm going to give. I'm going to give him that for sure. But as we said we believed we believed that their car could dunk. I doubted the could he just standard the remco vert and dunk it I still kind of question. And here's some things about this. And ed you've been a basketball guy your whole life. I've been abascal basketball guy much more than football guy for most of my life I'm impressed by it. I don't know that it's a regulation sized rim. First of all it looks about nine and a half to me maybe like nine eight some of the. It just looks a little short and he got up to listen. We're not denigrating the dog. It's impressive in. All the more impressive is that it's in slides. He's got samples on it. He goes up and gets the dunk. But i question the level of the ram. And it's not what he said. It's not it's hard if you've got a running start there and he tossed it up. Hooped it of ood has some thoughts. I think vinny is on the side of their conduct. But i think you might have questions about the to jump driving right now. I can look it up. But i want to go back to his scouting. Combine to see what the vertical was. Because that'll tell a lot so before this Podcast is over. We're gonna go checkout to do it to at least see if he has capability of doing it because i think that he's a better athlete than than than people are giving the have get credit for And he's got a little bit of high jim too so he's like about about six one six to maybe I i think he's got him. I don't know about now anymore. But i think there was a time in dirt. Cars live maybe recently where he could definitely throw it down of a of a set set. Jump i we. We will look those numbers up. We'll try to find out the The but i think. I think i will also say like i think at some point in his life absolutely their carney's accepted he's getting older now and he's been to a lot of wars on the football field. Listen we all lose lose established as a football player is i think really thriving. And at the top of his game really able to blend his experience with his athleticism and fix things out but charity evac. We need a derek carr donka thon thing go and vertical dunk and give money donated and maybe put on whatever we should be able to do this and do some good for somebody. We're not we're not joking. There were driving and we have to take an exit soon here. So we'll we'll focus on the road ahead ten ten. Just kidding yes hide. He's trying to say go. Ask for obviously going where it's movie. I'll go back to ed here because we have some other road trip. Things get into. Ed is not driving because it is a terrible driver. Although as i said i contend i contend not a terrible driver a distracted driver. You like to tax. Do you like to tweet. I mean we're not saying this summer. You may get distracted at times. And that's why you might not be released. We haven't gone through a drive through yet. Ed can try trying to text and drive the car front. I'm without him. i don't think he can dunk vert now. I can't step into car without trip. And so any guy who can dunk the way he doesn't slides. I get the guy completely credit. Even as a professional athlete the basket in question is when we have where my kid thinks he can dunk but he lowers the date and pretends. It's not a date. It's one of those you feel with the sand of the water on the bottom and yet you flip it up From behind so. I always worry about those baskets on whether the regulation right. He's obviously athletic. I actually think athletic people think in terms of being an nfl quarterback but donkey invert and just standing. There is really really difficult even for an athletic guy. So i'm going to give him. So if i'm judging the dunk contest ataman. I haven't past boy. I think he gets a great heart. Here i'm going to think he's a professional athletes. I'm giving a seven point five in the dunk. We saw because some point five is more because it's in the in the In the shoes But i don't think it's ten feet and there might have been like some extra sand on the bottom to push it down Some say that but if he did the vert just standing there. Heidi i'd give a ten adam. I gave them five. Will you give them. I'm going to go. i'll go with for that for in slabs eight. And here's the thing we have. We have some information. We suggested that we look it up. I'm going to say impressive. Vertical leap thirty thirty four and a half inches. Yes so the time has passed. You know the the average athlete peaks at twenty seven in terms of their physical attributes. But thirty four and a half is pretty impressive. So i think we're onto something. I think at one point there could do this. And here's another key. Who did he tell us to ask. Khalil mack my cousin around in three years so yes i think three years ago maybe derek carr could do it now. I'm not so sure of any thirty four and a half. are we impressed yet definitely. I'm not surprised. Like i said he's been a good athlete on all the way back to high school and obviously a fresno state so not really surprised. He's got that he's got that That little jerky athletic ability. I don't know why doesn't run a little bit gummy. They use showing visger that he could run anyone. You went up to get those yard. Today he went up and over at got. You know i'm sure John gruden's heart was in his throat at that point but Yard of an yeah. I think that's pretty impressive. But not surprise. We keep talking about their cars athleticism. Something i want to touch on. Is that forty. Five yard touchdown. Strike that he had to nelson agholor. But that's one thing. I want to mention but ed 'nother thing is the lack of presence that we saw henry ruggs in the passing game. A- think he's only stat today was on rush like ten yards. So let's talk about the good with nelson agholor and the bad henry ruggs mia Maybe i mean he's gruden talked about He had a be without a nice Nice moment there. If he'd gotten both feet in or go work with them on that in terms of getting both feet down in the pros but You know i think is he goes on and on each week You wanna see him more. Not just a deep shots but get him under underneath stuff. I'd like to to do a little thing. What they do with the jets weekday round him today. I think they should do more of that. And also some of the drag screens that Keenan allen ran. I like to see him. Get them more that if you hit him in space. Obviously that'd be kinda cool to see henry ruggs in space mar. Liked it what they did with keenan on there but here he goes nelson agholor again once again easily. One of their best off season signings. I don't think any one of us would have predicted that when it happened. And he gets the forty five yard touchdown Another good throw by car so yeah continues to make plays. I think rugs will be fine like i said. It's it was a weird game. I think derek only through flight one sixty uses a strange game But they got it done in the end so like i said i think you'd be get him in space on i. I used to watch In college and is a key. We'll get those middle screens and just take your kids to get them into space guys fast guys like that. I like to see him do more with him. but yeah. It's a two rookies like that. Next week he could have ten catches in to touch. You just don't a week to week basis rookie and bryan edwards. Probably be more involved as well so we're going to get more of look offense. Adam i wanna ask you about some of the injuries because we mentioned that on the offensive line but today the raiders lose trayvon molin and also alec ankle injury. They leave the game. So how much of an impact or both of those losses if they are serious injuries that keep them out for any extended period of time. Going to have on the raiders. Obviously both players injuries. Are you know generally must they're really really bad or you know something that's obvious happens. You don't really find out a whole lot until monday. And even then sometimes they find out a whole lot so both would certainly be big losses for this raiders team. But there's guys found out all over the place. Not only on the raiders but over league so Assess that tomorrow. We'll find out a lot from from jon gruden when he speaks as usual monday. Press conference and i say a lot. Meaning we'll ask a lot. He'll say we're still determining the stent. That's the answers will probably get tomorrow on those cases the go forward from there. But you know we'll see as as you go into the practice week of what's going on. But the raiders have shown a really impressive ability to overcome a lot of that and that is a key in the nfl certainly in especially this year of just kind of maintaining through a lot of a lot of craziness out of chaos of unknowns of who's available and who's not certainly not been immune to it but they've done a better job than most of handling it but really heidi. It's the important things are. Where is ed greening and have dinner tonight. I think that's the most important thing is we're heading on the road. There's so many options to introduce them to send the new here. We are not been exposed. Here's the thing we are I believe right now. We're on the the to ten. The you know getting out of los angeles heading over to the fifteen to get back toward las vegas. Plenty of options you know hysteria victorville bar sto so many stops along the way right now. Well it's it's on the road on the road. It's on the vegas we'll find out where we go. There's there's many fast food places you haven't even experienced. I've never been to del taco. i've never been to popeye's never been to churches. I'm trying to think of others. You guys got to get i. I'd never been a fat burger. i've never into. What a burger five guys burgers up there for never been shoe. Try to think. I've i've been jack in the box i've been to mcdonalds taco bell kentucky fried chicken. Carl's junior. I've been to the sandwich places. 'cause i like sandwiches Yeah there's a lot. So maybe i'll i've only been to poll a couple times to put land butler never had it. But i've never been to canes. But i've had it. I've never walked into what i've driven through the same with. Yeah so yeah. There's a lot of options on the helmet. I've to see that. I gotta be honest. You like him to death. Put the bonds in your kind of swerves around not sure. I'm not a better driver for allegedly. Defend himself. I will say first of all credit to him. We've got the big suv. I will say in wind almost impossible to drive the street. It's very very difficult. And i didn't hear anybody else volunteering. So feel like we're gonna have to move in your credit for this. Are you going to defend yourself. I there was no swearing slide. Slide step here yeah. I don't feel any swerving. It is windy windy. Too high profile vehicle wind ed come on. This is just physics. Should we set an executive decision. Right now. do we have. There is in victorville. A popeye's do we make a tripod for the first time. I think that something that we have to earn arby's sandwiches like the beef and cheddar with popeye. get popcorn. Shrimp get you know arby's around. I prefer well i think that about. Maybe we'll get ourselves a fast food sponsor here. I think that'll do it here. On the raiders. Postgame recap again. The win over the chargers big win for this team in their second divisional game of the season and next week they had in to dent. Excuse me they had back home and they face the denver broncos so another divisional game back to back here. We'll see your. They've only won one game. vinnie says. Add allegiance so we'll see. The raiders can bring it home with another w next week. And we'll keep you updated all week with all the podcasts. And make sure to check out. Monday's first and ten with sam gordon and vinnie. Bunsen your also fridays. Is ed and adam show unsportsmanlike conduct. Sure you're going to hear the full play by play of what we do here on the fast food scene and how eh will rate the different experiences that he gets here on the road. I show wednesdays takeaways. I'm going to have nick wykowski on so make sure to check all of that out and everybody thank you so much for joining us. Make sure to subscribe. And lisa comment wherever you bill On that apple podcast comment field. We always love hearing from everybody. So check vegas dot com for all your stories from all the guys. 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It's Clemson week
"Hello everybody this is Bill Williamson. This is over and Black. Pride. How are you? This is our weekly podcast. Do Weekly podcast here in the season. Happy CINCO DE everybody. Kinda you a theme. This week is GonNa be Clemson Week. Why clemson come on you know? Why clemson five clemson players in the last two drafts? It's almost ten percent of the Raiders. Dra- roster coming from one school in back to back years. It's pretty amazing. I got a lot of CL- glimpse in coverage this week. I talked to drew Snyder. Vespas nations shake in the south when he was going to be honest show but he had some technical difficulties so he couldn't make it but we had a good talk. And you know they're expecting these. Clemson guys become raiders now and when when these draft picks are happening. Yeah Ten Amuse Raider John Simpson Raider. 'cause fit. What the raiders are looking for big performers at huge programs and high character. Guys all five of these clean feral first round pick last year number four Trayvon Molin second round pick last year. Cornerback in probably start this year. Slot Receiver Hunter Renfrew. Who really came on the last year? All of those college performers and big programs who are just like Muse. And Mr John Samson you know through gave me some interesting inside and all these guys. Most the most of those five guys weren't the greatest the biggest recruits to Clemson. And you know this is Clemson. This is top of the cream of the crop so they came in with Western expectations other players. And they all rose to the top of that program. Johnson is the exception. He was all American Charleston South Carolina. But you know we all know. Hundred was walk on end up being an iconic player. In that school's History Clinton Ferro had a injury in high. School wasn't a huge recruit came in and became a four year player. Didn't play much redshirt freshman. Mona so-so tanner amusement. There's a baseball football player. He's a better baseball recruit from glimpsing. So these guys were all self made guys guys at Mike Mayock once guys Adampur. Sweeney says hey this is the type of guy that made this program what it is. That's what they want these guys to be raised. They WANNA take the raiders to the next level with these type of guys. Feral beasts superstar. I have my doubts. I think he will improve. I don't know he'll be a great pass rusher but I would probably be a solid d and maybe never a pro bowler but a solid guy. Good in the locker room But you know you want more of them at more from the number four. Pick of course but we'll see he's never going to be giving them a lot of problems and he can't improve. I think it'll be a solid quarterback him and Damon are net. Could really grow into a nice pair a cornerbacks and then you have A Meek Robertson Jonathan Abram bracket this could be a really a defensive secondary that can grow together Hunter Win. Renfro had thirty five catches in his last seven games last year. That's a lot. I can see this guy having hundred catches out of the slot within two years. Why can't he go from forty nine to eighty this year? I know win bone is GonNa take some of his reps from the slot but there's still plenty of unity for Renfro in this offense and then Tara muses probably going to be a special teams come stuff. What the specialties. Were Daddy Pie. A special team guys first. And then let's see if you can play linebacker. He played safety linebacker in the for the Clemson Tigers. Right now the rarest thing he's going to be more linebacker but he's special teams guy. He probably be a special teams ace. Before we know it John Simpson is a guy who will probably vied to be a starter and your second year. So yeah I talk to drew. Got Really good stuff from him. I said this is Clemson Week. I talked to woody mccorvey. A huge part of the CLEMSON program a huge part. He basically runs the show. He's dabbled Sweeney's right hand man. He's top liaison to the NFL from the program. And I had a nice chat with him today and I have a story on silver and black pride all the players and the connections. How they've got to know the raiders people. Mike may make Mike mayock spent a day with with Dabo Sweeney in the club last year. During the Season Jon. Gruden was going to be the keynote speaker to the football clinic this year but it was cut short because it was cancelled because of the corona violent virus which. I'm getting sick of. I'm sure you guys are to be safe out there. Everybody You know that. Crockett former Raider player Scout. He's big part of what the scouting at Clemson. So it's really fun connection. I had a lot of fun right in. The story is checking it out today tomorrow. I'm GONNA do something talking to Jim. Nagy from director the senior bowl on John Simpson and he thinks John Simpson's the best Griman Clemson has produced in the twenty years that he's St scouted that program. Wow Wow. He thinks he could start very soon then. We're going to a watch party tomorrow. Night of the Clemson Alabama two thousand eighteen championship game. Where Mike Mayock was there and scouting all these guys know. They got eight guys in that game. Eight guys the five Clemson guys that we've been talking about today. Josh Jacobs Henry Rugs and Lester cotton a backup undrafted free agent from Alabama Guard. He probably won't make the team so you you're GonNa have seven guys when that team that game on this roster this year so do a phone little watch party with that so it's just hey it's may after the season it's an unusual connection five players from one program so let's take advantage of it. It's Clemson Week here so I hope you enjoy that getting to know these guys a little bit more again. This off season just doing short cast news today. The raiders cut does Shawn Kaiser. Moving away from comes in here. People thought he was going to challenge. Derek Carr he wasn't GonNa Challenge Derek Carr. That wasn't going to happen so he's gone. Komi the LINEBACKER Nuradaim has gone. He's a undrafted free agent from last year. There are a lot of people thought had a chance to do some things. Well he never developed. That's okay it happens but they cut some some guys. They signed Samyong a ten year veteran tackle ten years. He's played sixty eight games. So he doesn't have a a for sure path to the roster. He played four games with the forty niners. He's a backup just veteran backup. We'll see if you can make the team. He signed some undrafted free agents against sign. Some more undrafted free agents just a busy day for the Raider nation again in in in kind of a slow time. You know. There's not a whole lot going on but we're going to do a show once a week and again. Just get to know you guys better. You know I've done raider podcast. Three different places I've been SP nation since February. And I love it. I'm very happy to be here. Hey Proud to be here and I don't want to be anywhere else. So that's her twit show just to get to know some of these clemson guys have some fun. This is Bill Williamson. This is silver and black pride. Take Care we'll talk to you next week. Be Safe have fun talk to you.
Raiders Offseason Series: Evaluating the Defense
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It's heidi thing here. And i'm going to introduce what is bound to go down here on this podcast. It's the raiders off season addition. And that means sam. Gordon and i are going to break down by position. Everything you want to know about your raiders. What will happen here in the offseason. We've got it all here for you in a breakdown that we've been compiling as well online vegas nation dot com and on the vegas nation app. You can check that out and download it today. Also don't forget to subscribe wherever you're listening and check out all of the other podcasts. That drop every week three times a week. We have you covered monday wednesday and friday with new vegas nation episode. So make sure it always come back and check that out but what this is. This is the raiders off season edition. And that means sam gordon. I are going to have you covered rigging down each individual group of the raiders. Defense and offense by position so we got everything started off with the defense. I know that's what everybody wants to hear. Most about the raiders. Finish in the bottom half of the nfl and close to the bottom in certain areas. So let's get. It started right now as we opened up our series by talking about the raiders. Defense and specifically pass rush. We did have to hold ourselves. Expanded comfortable professional football. That was reader's defensive cle- farrel talking about the standards. The he wants to see the raiders. Pass rush hold themselves to as we approach twenty twenty one. The off season in the works right. Now for the raiders and twenty twenty. The pass rush was not what they wanted it to be and right now. We're going to start breaking that down at. Sam gordon your raiders writer and heidi fang your podcast hosts. And we're going to start getting into that right now but first of all sam. Welcome to the show. How is the offseason treating man so far so good. Heidi appreciate your help. Me excited to be back in. The news is right. Gus rally so to me. That was kind of the forest dominated. Who jon gruden in company. We're going to select to be that. Defensive coordinator i i think what we're really going to see is that's that's the rest of the offseason gonna. That's the first domino. So everything about their offseason is gonna follow soon. But he's in place now he brings with him a track record and a lot of experience so really curious to see what he does. And what jon gruden and mike mayock do collectively to build defense. We talk about that experience and it started off with being part of the group intrigue. He came to Jon gruden in two thousand and six with the bucket near so this is a man who helped create one of the more feared defensive units in the nfl starting with the seattle seahawks. So what are you. make a what. He started there with the legion of boom what he did with the linebacker groups. The buccaneers news gruden. How do you think that all of this. That he's had the collective years of experience will help the raiders. I think it's huge. I think he kind of checks all the boxes. That jon gruden wanted to address the defensive coordinator right. We talked about the experience He's been a defensive coordinator in multiple multiple stops with of course as you mentioned the seahawks and then of course most recently the los angeles chargers he has head coaching experience in e talk during his introductory press conference. A what that kind of meant for him and how that helps him as a defensive coordinator and then he's got a track record for player development. And i think that's the most intriguing thing for me is what he was able to do as a developer of talent. We have to remember that. Legion of boom defence. Those weren't all first round bigs back there. Richard sherman Kam chancellor been throw big bobby wagner was the second round. Pick a lot of a kind of secondary and tertiary players in that kind of your maxwell's walter doormats so it's other defensive. Backs relate round draft picks brandon. Browner came over from the cfl so he was able to build a defense collective we will peak caroline and then the rest of that coaching staff was there or that was there. They were able to develop a rebel. Fine guys draft kind of diamonds in the rough develop them in the top players. What again like you said. One of the most memorable defenses of all time. I think when you take a look at the raiders and the way kind of their salary cap structure. You have a lot of players that young players. The raiders have invested a lot in that need developed. It's up to to to me Who comes to my jonathan abram. I david arnett trayvon molin. I mean young players first and second round picks on that in that secondary that the raiders are counting on and get better and then in the linebacking corps. You have established. Guys like littleton. Nick but Issue especially with littleton did kind of play up to the standards that he had showed with los angeles rams so what can rather you'd put those guys to develop them into better players and them in a position to succeed. We'll see but he's done it in the past did it in la too Which boasts one of the best defensive players in the nfl derwin james even though he was out past. You're one of the best defensive backs in the nfl. So he knows how to coach big time players how to develop young players into big time players. I think that bodes well for the raiders are trying to do on the defense side of the ball and you talk about what he's done there with the chargers defense and they ranked twelfth overall by pro football. Focus and pass rush. And that's something. That the raiders are desperate to improve upon. There's a couple of guys there that he worked with her pretty well. No names joey. Bosa melvin ingram melvin. Ingram free agent. You talked about richard sherman earlier. Free agent so. I don't know what the raiders might do here because like you also mentioned there. The salary cap was kinda crazy this year. A lot of people are fearing what will happen while it's looking at the numbers and trying to figure out how they're going to crunch this mathematically but when you start thinking about it for the pass rush alone salmon you look at the defense events. Defensive tackles our. Is this raiders. Lying going to improve their front for a well. That's that's a good place to start. Heidi gan rally talked about that. That building defense building out any sort of defense. It starts with being able to affect a quarterback in frankly. The raiders didn't do a good enough job at that this past year. Like you mentioned pro football Focus twenty four in pressure rate. And that's not going to cut it. They were in the bottom five in the nfl and sacks frankly they did disrupt the passer enough this year as a result. What you saw was quarterback. Tom brady philip rivers. I could go on and on being able to carve up the raiders throughout the course of the season and that's where it starts and there are talented players on the defensive front right wheel barrel while is it. He's not necessarily a big time. Pass rusher yet. He's proven that he can be disruptive. At the line of scrimmage you have a guy like max crosby where yeah. Some of the vast numbers don't necessarily bear out in his favor when he can't get after the quarterback. He's shown a pension for doing that. When i think the raiders are going to have to do is they're going to have to go outside of the building To the they need more talent even though there are good players. They're they need more talent whether that stupid draft maybe using their first round pick on are taking a flower on a big time. Pass rusher or whether that's through trae trading some of your draft capital for somebody that's disgruntled disgruntled star elsewhere and then trying to sign him to a long term extension. That always happens. I mean you see that all the time in football. I don't know who that person is yet who that player is. We see a urine in europe. You saw the fourth buckner of the indianapolis colts acquired via trade from san francisco forty niners. They couldn't afford to pay him. He's one of the best. Defensive tackles in the nfl. You have a guy like yawning the cockfight with the who was with the jacksonville jaguars who came into the league. Would gus rally But who up in minnesota and then in baltimore where he's made a big impact for one of the best teams in the afc. i don't. it's not crystal clear who that person is yet with. There's always somebody that comes up. So is the key. Is that the identifying for him. Identifying who he wants to continue to develop his roster and then going outside of the building and acquiring more talented Like you said the cap the cap there are still going to be some concentrates but with with the creative Creativity between route and mayo and bradley. There is a way to get this done. Frankly the raiders needs to get it done or else If they if they can't figure out how to effective quarterback in how to be better on the defensive line is quite frankly not gonna matter as much whether they do at the second third levels on the interior of it. You look at a guy like me collins who somebody i know that they invested in that they were hoping would pan out and you figure out the hammer. Nellie connection but it didn't work out. I'm wondering if you look there at the defensive tackle spot is there someone that you look to draft or is there somebody that you look to go for in the offseason with free agency there. Yeah i'm a good question. I think first and foremost we gotta give them more resource his flowers like you. He struggled with injuries at times but finished the year. Ranked number nineteen pro football. Focus out of one hundred twenty seven offer. A defensive tackles a young player. Still only twenty five and somebody. That at michigan was an all american defensive. Tackle big ten twelve player that fell to the fifth round because of art condition. So the talent was there. I mean he was supposed to go in the first round yet. I kind of talent. And i think he's showed that when he was healthy this year but he was able to do plug up against the ron and dry multiple defenders in being real force in the interior. He's somebody. I think that the raiders can build around As florist a building around him or addressing other people at that position. Maybe you move cleaner violence. I mean know he's a big time stopper not necessarily the best pass rusher yet. A lot of people have speculated that being inside being a defensive tackle is kind of the way to maximize his talents as it is and if you look at free agency i mean. There's a number of big names that are going to be available right if donald consumer is certainly a big name. Guy like warrants. Guy is gonna be out there. He has super bowl experience. Or you take a guy. Like dalvin. Tomlinson with the new york giants. Who's going to be a free agent. He's only twenty seven years old and he was ranked twenty fifth the appro football focus amongst those one hundred twenty seven defensive tackle so he could be an impact player for him too. So i think there's a lot of problems with more resource but like you said me. Collins did not pan out. He was one of the worst rated players at his position by pro football focus. And fortunately for the raiders. It was only a one year deal. I do not expect him to be back Frankly it didn't work and things happen for for one reason or another. And i expect them to wanna move on and maybe he lands on his feet somewhere else. I like. that defensive tackles keep one cut. When you're keeping mojo i you're dropping me collins. So what about defensive end. Who would you keep who to cut yeah. I think there's still a lot of upside with with a guy like max crosby. We saw what he did as a rookie. One of the most disruptive rookie pass rushers that we saw one of the most disruptive rookie pass russia's really in recent memory. And i think what he experienced. This year was kind of year. Two in the nfl. We're looking have a whole year on film and now teams know what your strengths or weaknesses are and they can game plan. Accordingly and even led the raiders taxes. Here he wasn't quite the same player. But i still think he has enough potential. He that he has enough potential. That gus bradley is gonna wanna see what he has continued to try and build around him he still very young player and it showed enough promise but but if you talk about other pass rushers i think you're going to have to go outside of the building. Mom for that in nc. Who else is out there in free agency. I don't think that any other defense ministry talked about cleveland farrell. He wasn't necessarily the big time. Pass rusher that's you need. Maybe it is a guy like leonard williams with the new york giants who was super productive player this year of draft. The new york jets. He's probably gonna command big money on the open market. He had a big time season with wealth saks. The best european career so far. Maybe maybe it's somebody like him. God like justin houston veteran with indianapolis colts. He comes in. He had swaps accent or eight sacks this year rather what he's proven pass rusher was stalwart the kansas city chiefs in thirty to show he still at plenty left in the tank. Maybe he's not too expensive. So there are a number of ways you can go on that defensive line getting an edge rusher guy likes his debutante cloudy He was a big ticket. Free agent ended up to the tennessee. Titans not necessarily a pass rusher but a big time run stopper who was super disruptive with the who used his actions when he was there and the seattle seahawks in two thousand nine hundred eighty with banged up only played eight games there. Maybe there some value there east only twenty eight years old so it either. It's it's in free agency or could be in the draft whether it's in the first round whether it's the later rounds. But i expect the raiders to address the opposition's. Well try and get somebody to help match up. Get after the quarterback take a little bit of pressure off him and stopping the run. We'll be definitely something they need to focus on on the stats. They allowed more than two hundred rushing yards the three opponents. More than one hundred rushing yards to eleven total fifty five touchdowns that was not a good number there in the nfl. in fact it was third worst as far as amount of touchdowns allowed in the season. We're going to take a quick break when we come back. We're talk more about the ravens defense so you don't wanna miss this stay tuned. Have you been injured in a car or motorcycle. Accident and the insurance adjuster will only pay a fraction of your claim or even worse. Nothing at all. That's not right right finding attorney. Who will be a fighter for you when you need it. Most at sammamish we're revolutionizing personal injury representation by focusing on your rights and your recovery. Call us anytime at seven. Oh two eighty two zero one two three four or visit sam and ashish dot com san menashe. Because you deserve what's right so we've crowned a super bowl champion and now the nfl draft is coming up. Which means it's time to think about who can win it all next year. 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At the rj app or it's available on roku tv fire tv and apple tv download the app and you're ready to go for senate at seven do goals from our cell phones and things that i need to pinpoint get better. That was save on molin talking about how he perceived things on his end from end of the season and what he plans to do in the coming season hopes to change how he hopes to help others around him and that is something that the secondary is going to need. Sam gordon and i began our breakdown of that right now. This was a really sore spot for the raiders and twenty twenty. And i know what's going to be an area that they looked to focus on whether they stick with in house talent or go out and find somebody free agency. Sam the raiders. Definitely to step up what happened in twenty twenty. What are some of the numbers that you have for us here on some of the abysmal effort of last year secondary. Heidi it was really a young group with with the jonathan. Abrams damon net in trayvon. All righty the first or second year guys. That were were ashville big roles and at times they play like it right. Jonathan abram for example In his first full season. I mean you look at the positives. He's physical plays a kind of a unique energy. There's a certain genetic lottery as a that affects can positively affect the team. He led the team with eighty six tackles but he struggled coverage right allowing a passer rating one hundred nine point to any. Ms thirteen tackles tied for second team. That's despite missing a few games. So still rover for development there. Damon ornette the same thing. Right he missed seven games in a boat when he played opposing quarterbacks completed seventy one percent of their passing incident for passer rating. One hundred six point nine which you any quarterback has passer rating. They're pretty good so his mistake percentage of thirty four point two also led the team in jon. Gruden said in his in his postseason after the season has media availability that he's got an east stronger you know had a couple of injuries wanted ohio state at one. This the raiders limited time and You know you can't work the same way so the physicality of the nfl. I think was really an adjustment for him. A stray bullet. I think was a spot in his second year. After being a second round pick in two thousand and nineteen he was targeted team. High eighty six times but his completion percentage allowed was only sixty one point. Six is pretty good in the past reading of ninety two point four. You stole only twenty. Three and i think he projects long-term right now based on what we've seen as the best defensive back on a roster and then you have a couple of veterans right like eric harris lamarcus joyner one. Are they gonna do with those guys. joiners case still ineffective player but they can save eight point seven million a in salary cap space if they cut him before june i. He's thirty years old embarrasses to when he added east this year allowing thirteen minutes tackles or missing thirteen tackles in pass trading one hundred twenty four point one. So they're going to have to develop some of those young guys and you guys like you shot nixon and isaiah johnson as well who have potential as prospects long term. But i think they're also gonna look to make some moves in like you said hi brilliance of reagents or maybe try draft a couple of defensive backs to push the guys on the roster all right now if you think about it. There's big names out there. Logan ryan patrick. Peterson comes to mind. We talked last week. About richard sherman being somebody that could become available in the free agency. With what the raiders have to do their money in the off season and how they try to figure out this puzzle sam. Is there any of those big names that you think that they could target. Yeah i think if they targeted big name would probably be more likely at safety just because of what you have invested in those young corners. I think just I mean he's a guy was a free one of the best safety football on. He's probably gonna command a salary because of how well he's play the last couple of years. But he's a guy that maybe. If the raiders want to commit to that position they could go ahead and get him or pursue him. Anthony harris another guy. That's a logical fit. He's with great in the top forty percents of safeties by pro football. Focus longtime minnesota vikings. Who is likely going to hit the market in in see what he can get As a free agent. And then john johnson. Is that our colleagues bosses your raves about with the rams. He was created out as pro football focus. Third-best safety this year. He's twenty five years. Old entering is probably one of the top coverage safeties league that safety spots where they need of some help conference at again not jonathan haber strong suit and hair care struggle there although jeff heath was really really good a young safety that could cover it could make plays on the back end definitely be an asset Moving forward for the raiders. We talked about about grass bradley last week. But i to just get your take on how gus bradley would go about. Starting to look at things which on the neighboring. What would you think the first thing fundamentally he might look at. What jonathan abrams. Game and start working with him on. Because abram kind of had this whole first year to look back watch film study and you would think in that time he would come out playing and being able to apply a lot better than what we saw last year. So i wanted to get your thoughts on. Maybe what you think bradley could do to try to implement some a his game plan. Hit what he knows about this game. And we're at apply it to abram what we've already seen with him we know we know. Everyone has a lot of potential. I mean he's a heavy hitter can make plays. You can bring money back in the backfield he can. He has that speed to come off the edge bush when they asked him to like he has physical talent and he has some tangible. As i think for for jonathan. Abrams is just kind of the the the you know. The nuances of the position understanding remaining coverage win to abandon coverage. Come forward and pursue how to take better angles in pursuit As attack with the things of that of that nature. And i think a rally what. He's really gonna do. Simplify things with this cover three scheme. I mean no team in the nfl plate more cover three than the chargers last year. And i think that that kind of simplifies responsibilities for a lot of these guys as report author was playing this kind of hybrid covers six combining cover two schemes four schemes and mixing them together depending on what side of the field guys at different responsibilities. So is really about for for bradley. Really identify what. A player like abram. What his strengths are putting him in a position to allow him to focus on what he's good at while continuing to develop his weaknesses and They're still operating. Only twenty four years old was basically his first four year. There's still a lot of upside there. Even though he struggled in the two thousand twenty season definitely nothing but upsides for a lot of these young players. You mentioned trayvon molin. You mentioned Some of the other guys. Maybe isaiah johnson could be appointed focus and how they develop him and bring him along as well. So sam any final thoughts for you on somebody. That really could take a huge leap in twenty. Twenty one for the raiders. What are you going to put that on. If we're talking about the defensive backfield. I think a think guided looked to a statement are net right. If has a full healthy off season if he addresses of some of those concerns that gruden had about his strength is upper body strength. And just to be a little bit more physical. I think he's poised to take a big leap now. There are some coverage things that need to improve put if he's able to be able to practice to have a full offseason the practice a full offseason to live wasted develop to get accustomed to the physicality of the nfl. I think he's a guy that could be in line to take. We know gus. Bradley has a track record for for player development. we saw that especially in seattle. We saw that jacksonville to the head coach. Even though he didn't have success as a head coach he developed a lot of players on that events that went on advanced there she championship game in two thousand seventeen and then he did the same thing with the chargers Young players consistently got better a reporting position to be successful so our desk guy that comes to mind but i think i would be surprised if we saw you know. Abram take another leap or even a stray bullet as well as he played at times last year. There's still room for growth with him as well. I think that's one of the reasons bradley. Got the job. He can develop talent ican. Identify the raiders. Certain you have some for him to work with and last thing. Is there anybody that you think. That the raiders right now would look to to draft in twenty twenty one to help build the young secondary or do you think that they've already got their guys. That they wanted to get from the previous drafts and that they're going to hold onto. Yeah i mean. I think this is really deep right. I don't think they're going to have a chance to talk corner in the draft. Patrick tan out of alabama and. I don't think that's necessarily guy that they would want given that they have to young corners that they're invested in developing. But if you look maybe in the second or third round guys deep draft or maybe a tyson sample from georgia. Paulsen vivo rebellious williams oklahoma state. Sean wait oh how state guys of that nature maybe in that second or third round range you take a flyer on and hopes developed so plenty of young talent Plenty of veterans out there free agency and plenty of guys coming into the draft. That are ready to make an impact. I won't be surprised to see the raiders tapping all three rows on pool of talented secretary. I've always wanted to keep myself and keep my play at like a top-five linebacker. I didn't come nowhere clear close to it this year. And that was raiders. Linebacker corey littleton talking about his disappointing season. But sam gordon and i are going to continue right now talking about the linebacker core and what. It brought to the raiders defense. Let's move on here to the linebacker. Core which i don't think produces much as obviously the raiders would have wanted to especially given the money. They invested in the players that they brought in starting cory littleton. Let's just get into right there. Because cory littleton coming off the rams when you look back at his twenty eighteen season in what he did there. He was a pro bowler in that year with the rams and he went for over one hundred and twenty combined tackles he had interceptions. He recorded sacks. This is something that he didn't get to in twenty. Twenty with the raiders. There were two categories there that i just mentioned that he didn't record anything in So sam what does corey littleton do here. In twenty twenty one to improve upon his twenty twenty season yeah. I think it's going to help him. Having defensive coordinator rally that comes in with a fresh fresh mind set in knows he was obviously. He wasn't the he played with the rams he was in la. And i imagine there's going to be a familiarity there He he's probably breaking down. All that tape of whether littleton put forward in it's gonna put him in a position to be successful. I think the cover defense that pogo other played at times was a little tricky. From little for littleton who was accustomed. Ram system in as a result he was out of position a lot. He led the team with seventeen. Missed tackles like you said. He didn't have a sack for the first time. Heidi since his rookie season and he finished with his fused amount of total tackles this past year since two thousand seventeen and he wasn't a full time starter and twenty seven just for context. So i think it's i think it's about getting him back into positions where he's comfortable filling in the run being out there and coverage flying around all over the field making place blitzing here He never really quite found a group as one of the highest paid players defense. It's imperative that they get him back to playing at probe level. If that events is to improve the way. Jon gruden and gus bradley wanted to s before we move on to some of the other linebackers here. I just wanted to get your take because we are talking about gus bradley. How he comes in. He changes this defense and makes it stronger but one thing. I'm curious to find out your take on. How much will the off season if it again is another virtual type off season. How much is that going to hinder his ability to really install his defensive plan. The way he would if everybody was on the field going through reps and a normal like situation type season communist certainly doesn't help. How do you. I know that much. I'm not. I'm not sure just quite how big of an effect can have now. I think it's worth noting that no defense in the nfl play more covered three and the chargers last hundred rally so i think things are simplified a little bit The cover sixty percents at that gone through relied on depending on who was on. What side of the field. There were different responsibilities in those. Could shift down down a cover. Three simplifies things a little bit. I think that whether or not they have offseason program if he sticks about approach and plays a lotta cover three or a majority cover three like he did last year because it could put middleton back into that position look as responsible for his own Most of the time he can focus on just being in that area and filling in the run game when needed to So let's get into the mike linebacker that being nick wykowski a position that he played as the green dot playcaller. If you will he really. I think had a strong year sam. What was your take on. Nick wykowski this season. Yeah i mean this is a guy that was played really well with the chicago bears and was looking for an opportunity to come be a focal part of a defense Fence and i think that's exactly what they now. The catch was that he missed four games. He was banged up and the durability limited limited him in limited his production. We was out there. He was a stalwart and coverage allowing a passer rating of only seventy seven point. Three that was the best amongst raiders linebackers and he was. He was active in the running game. He's one of the top tacklers with eighty one again. That's only in twelve games. So i think he showed that that three down ability he was president the running game. You present the passing game. He he was on the field and you felt his presence and hokkaido watching the games. It looked like he was moving around always around the ball making plays when he was out there so i think it was a really good first year for him to to kind of assert himself as one of the leaders on this defense in obtrusive how participle. Gus bradley benefits him as well. You know. it's interesting when we talk about. These guys have made a splash. That have come in. broaden last year by the raiders to help improve linebacker core. There was one guy who remains that was part of the reggie mckenzie era. Nicolas moreau and for. I think nicolas moreau he kind of been playing with chip on his shoulder being from the old regime. If you will and trying to make a name for himself on this roster and in fact plan to keep his name on this roster so what did you make of his effort this season. And how much did you see that chip on the shoulder like i did. I thought was really really strong already. I thought played really really well. I think he wasn't not not only one of the better coverage. Linebackers for the raiders But one of the conference linebackers in the league and really made the most out of out of his plankton this year. I mean he's a guy who was more or less a part time starter. A spot starter. the past couple seasons in this year really emerged as one of the key playmakers on that defense and now the question becomes what what happens next because he is an unrestricted free agency or he isn't a restricted free agent. He's entering unrestricted free agency. And we're talking about a guy that was undrafted from a division three school so this is his first real opportunity To go out there and get those big dollars. Are the raiders willing to pay for pay for that kind of production. Or is you're gonna end up elsewhere. I think I think depending on how the the the salary cap looks. What's at what that's looking like. And what they decide to do in other areas. I think e somebody somebody that raiders definitely should consider bringing back based on his level of production. And he's another guy who still only twenty five years old. I think they're still upside with him as well. That gus bradley might be able to tap into and then just with his natural improvements very focused very hard working young man. I did a big profile story on him. In december we got to know what his football makeup was like. It and eases high characteristic. Come in with that. I think there's another level he can get to. The question is. Is it in las vegas or is it somewhere else and his big question and like you said. The salary cap flipping is looming over as we restructure. How they're going to do that. How they're gonna make the room. It's going to be starting to see it's really insane. What they're going to have to do with that salary. Cap this year particularly and sam as we look at that that brings me some of the free agents that they brought in over the course of the season. Like ray mcmillan is. He's somebody that you would see the raiders holding onto this season. Or do they go out to the world free agents where there's some names available like k j riot or even matt milano. Do they look for somebody like that in free agency as opposed to holding onto somebody that they brought in this year question i think when they acquire mcmillan before the before this past season in september i think it was definitely with the developmental looking at kind of the long view right. He's another guy when they acquired him. He's only twenty four and now he's twenty five and we've seen that kind of upside potential especially in the running game as a rookie with the miami dolphins. A few years ago he had five tackles. now what kept him off. The field is coverage and he's struggling coverages first year and is playing time win will with away. Nfl offenses are being. Quite i think it's more important than ever that whoever's out there especially the linebacker position do a number of different things at a high level play. The ron you get after the pastor when asked to and then playing coverage as well so he he's a guy that i think still has some upside even though he didn't play that much for the raiders this year but they're gonna. I expect this team to do its due diligence and look into the possible free agents that they need improvement at all three levels of thought for the most part the linebacking or was the strongest group was the strength of this defensive. I had a big one But if there's there's somebody available other veteran presence maybe like you said a k j wright who is noted for his coverage. I mean that's how he made his own in seattle. If the price is situations right in the finnish right then i can see them looking to bring in another veteran to go along with the core that they're trying to develop as well all right so that brings me to my last question here about the draft. I wanted to ask about dylan moses. Just because he's somebody alabama and we know what. The raiders have done. Alabama clemson big name schools. Ohio state big name schools. So if you think raiders will go linebacker early in the draft and if so is that someone may be that they would look at. I think he's definitely somebody worth looking at it. I mean this is a guy who injured his knee and it really damaged his draft stock a little bit but his first couple years alabama. He was one of the best defensive players in the country instill showcases potential this past year when he got healthy when he was able to get healthy so i think he's definitely somebody worth. We're talking. I'm not sure necessarily in the first. I think they have more pressing needs. Maybe defensive line like we talked about getting a pass rusher or a another another safety a coverage safety that can make ways on that back in but when you look at moses i think six threes two hundred forty pounds. He's fast he's strong and he has a better like you said he played in a lot of big games played against a high level of competition in that. Sec and if he's there in the second in the second round down definitely somebody worth were targeting or pursuing it. Even though the linebacker or was i think one of the stronger unions on his defense. They still need help at all levels and you can never have enough death. He'd to me as a four year guy. Is somebody ready to step on. Nfl fueled day one in start and be a contributor so interesting you brought him up. He was a kid. I remember you know maybe almost ten years ago now. He got an offer when he was in seventh grade and that was down. The i heard of these really really young players getting scholarship offers. That sense become the norm but he was the first he definitely lived up to pipe it alabama. And that's exactly why i picked him was because of the hype had been surrounding him. And like you said that injury kind of set him back but you know that the raiders are always looking for these guys especially may congruent. Gruden the come from these programs where they say. These guys have played at the highest level already. And they're ready to go. So i thought it'd be moses fit in that mold so that'll do it for this episode of the raiders off season series. So make sure to check back when we have a fresh episode. We'll make sure to put it out on twitter at biggest nation. You can also give sama. Follow at by sam gordon. I'm at heidi bang. And we've just started breaking down the offense you can start checking out all of the videos that we put out for the series as well on vegas nation dot com over sam. 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Heidi everybody nation podcasts edition waning meet. Today is ondo carpenter. I'm so excited to have him on. Here he writes for sports illustrated. You've heard him on. Raider nation radio various different shows on there a couple times a week. Now here to talk raiders football with me. I'm so excited ondo. I'm glad you one of my friends in vegas and you're so good at what you do. Those video art world fo tiger for on air. You're just all journalists in baseball. They come koya five tool athlete. You're just tool journalist. You're the ultimate queen. You biggest. I was trying to give you a great introduction and here you are buttering me up and i gotta say you know one of the first things i learned about ondo is he is a man of his word. I helped him with a small computer thing. That was no big deal. And what do he went out and said he was going to get me a gift card to my favorite restaurant in las vegas which is mons flaming fajitas and he did and a man of his word. So nothing but good things to say about you as well honda and i appreciate you joining me. Here on the podcast. And we are gonna talk. Raiders like. I said the season is come to an end. It's eight mate jon. Gruden said in his postgame press conference after they took a win over the broncos thirty to thirty one that he was just sick that the season had come to an end because things were starting to click. I think for a lot of the people in this team. We saw a lot of sparks out of bryan edwards. We saw the offense going on all cylinders. People were starting to get healthy. What do you think we can expect from the raiders. Off of the way that they finish in the coming season. I think a couple of things first of all heidi. They have an nfl playoff-caliber offense. That's very very clear. They've got that their problems reside on defense which have been horrible. I have an article coming next week. Or i asked a couple of nfl players who play this year. If they showed me their scouting reports. I specifically asked about henry ruggs which will be a separate article. Then i asked him about the raiders. Defense in general and just trying to find out what other teams felt one of the things that that surprised me both teams both teams under scuttle reports. Said when you find a weakness. Go after the raiders stolen just on defense. And that's all i'm paul guenther so let's say let's just start right now the biggest free agent that the silver and black are gonna get this. This offseason doesn't play the game. He's gonna coach it. It's going to be john gruden's defensive coordinator. I've heard some fans say it's time to rebuil- if you have to rebuilding year after three years then you've been an utter failure. I don't do. This team is another failure. The defense has been utter failure. But i don't think this team is as far away as maybe fans saint louis alinsky fans credit. It's wider fans. It's short for fanatic. I respect them. I love their passion but this team is not as far away as what people think they can get this defense to fifteenth in the league. This is a powerful raider team. Who could go a long ways in the playoffs. Yeah let's talk about the defense. And how they start to rebuild it because a lot of pieces that they already have in place are very young players. You have trayvon. Max crosby isaiah johnson now the next rookie class. They're just came in. Damon are net and the other guys that are in that package along with them. Like me roberson. You have jackie. So there's a lot of people that they brought in. He notably not rookie but as far as free agent with the team. So when you talk about what they need what would you put your finger on here. First of all. I want to oversimplify but i just want to tell the truth which is our job. They need defensive coordinator. Let's take him on looking jonathan abrams. This is young man. That has all the raw god-given physical talent that you can't cheat. You're either born with it or not. I'm paul your stored. You can't fix that. I can't fix that. It's just the way of the world. But you know what. Jonathan abram is a guy that has all those gifts in tools. But he's allowed to consider consistently make the same mistakes he doesn't get benched am i. Ain't i know listen. Cover nick sabin where you are not coaching. You are allowing it when you see guys continually making mistakes over and over in week one and in week ten or twelve or whatever then you. That's on coaching. This is why they have to bring in defensive coordinator. I hear some raider fans say well we gotta be careful. Get mark davis is cheap. That's not true. He doesn't give jon gruden hundred million dollar deal 'cause cheap he doesn't go out there and when you talk to general managers in the nfl that they believe mark davis would sell his car and walking skateboard. If it would help us team win i have. Gm tell magazine article coming later this week. I think you're gonna like i s three. Nfl general managers to scout. Derek carr for me because this guy has been abused by the fans i ever gonna be shocked at. What other teams stink of them but they all said to me. we know. mark davis will spend the money. Jon gruden has to go get the guy to fix this defense now. 'cause it but saying that i am talking to people around the league. The best defensive coordinators wanted go where they can win. They don't wanna go. Where their defense has scored a touchdown to make sure they win and with this offense. It's going to be very appealing now. Not getting into politics. But this is another big deal. This is a state with no income tax. That's going to help in free agency. It's going to help when you're paying a big time offensive or defensive corner. They're gonna look at that kind of stuff the facilities highly. You and i know this because we bennett allegiant. We benefited the the practice facility. I've been all over the nfl to practice facility stadiums. It's the best in the business. I seen some as good but none better. So they're in a position now. The biggest free agent is gonna be. Who do they go. Get what staff does he bring in. Now let's look at that defense from woman because you made a brilliant points while of listening to you talk with jeff heath a guy that when he was healthy i think was the defensive. Mvp you max crosby. He suffered this year because last year ten sacks coming into this year now people were all of a sudden doubleteaming him triple team clean. Pharaoh couldn't catch a break with his health but when he was healthy he made a big difference. How it a guy they can make maurice. Hurst obviously haven't talked about him. He played well clearly. You saw cory littleton under the first week. And i don't mean the first couple of days because that didn't count for right marinelli when he took over for gunther a thursday game but you saw little to play very good in that fifteenth game of the season. They've got to go get linebacker help. They've got to get some help at obvious on the defensive line but then they're gonna have to make some key decisions. They're gonna have to bring in teachers guys who are proven with an ability to develop players a give you a great example. Mike marks of course you remember him from the greatest show on turf when they brought him in to be offensive coordinator with the detroit lions. I was there every day. And mike mark struggled because the forgotten how to coach offense. He hadn't developed guys. He got guys who were already developed on the road. And that's great. If you're bringing in a guy like mike marks to who can only has a developed offense you have to get a teacher any proven teacher to me. This is not a job that you get somebody who's never been a coordinator. You had to go get somebody who's a proven teacher. You're close dirk cardinals too far into his career to wait for another two or three years to defense. You gotta get somebody with experience and then they gotta be teacher just like you with the computer. I'm curious here now to get your take on who that person might be because they have options. There's a lotta people right now. That are very high profile coaches. They could possibly land that position. Few of them have ties to jon. Gruden you look at religion morris. That's a possibility men. A lot of people are talking about wade phillips being out there who was working with the rams. But i'm curious about that. Just because you here wade phillips his name come around a lot. And the raiders. Run a four. Three wade phillips is known for the three four defense. So i'm wondering what you think about those two options as they seem to be the ones that frequently come up and who would you think would be a better fit for the raiders in already. That's a great question. I'll give you a couple of answers. Let's start with wade phillips. We wrote about this just a couple of weeks ago looking at some of the names. So the i one. I want to talk about is a wade phillips proven winner. He's approving winter you know this guy's done everywhere. He could go as a defensive coordinator. Unlike mike martz i think he's a better coordinator. The marches an offense coordinator and that surprises some people terrific teacher. But you'd also seen it with guys that he's developed he's guided to go now doesn't have a lot of room left on the tank. He's an older gentleman. So do the raiders. Bring them into fix it and bring someone else in that. Certainly a possibility if they get away phillips is nothing to be mad or upset out there. I like morris. This is a proven winner. Game knows grew. He knows the expectations of gruden any knows the enormity. Listen jon gruden is very well respected in this league. People like him personally when he is a guy that's a grinder and the best example. I her he morris is that he's the jon gruden of defense. He approached his defense. The way the jon gruden. I love that one. Let me give you a couple of other needs though that we did talk about rex ryan. I noise in the mix. He's not gonna come say he's got the nice job working with espn. But i knew. I talk to people very close to rex. They think he'd be interested in coming to work mcbroom. The problem with rex is this. The raiders have one voice. Whether you like it or not. Want that jon. Gruden is done very bella. Check thing and doing is. He's the voice. Everyone knows anybody on that. Team including mark davis stocks dung moons. The voice and rex ryan loves to try to steal the spotlight and with jon gruden. This is the thing i think. People underestimate jon. Gruden with he loves to share the credit. He doesn't go out there and say look at me. He's quick to say. Blame me and then quick to say credit other people. I don't know that him and rex ryan would work together a boy. I'd fun be fun to see chucky and rex. We're headed at the middle of the field on the liberal. Sometimes here's a name a couple of nfl people have told me about. I know him. Personally joe berry. This is the son-in-law nawab marinelli he was a defensive coordinator. Detroit did a pretty good job but it was a very bad detroit team which had nothing to do with joe. He can only coach the players that they give them. That's another name i think. And based on what. I'm hearing around the league. Everyone expects gruden to get this done sooner rather than later. I don't think it's a big deal. Let me give you an example cory littleton. You know littleton didn't have good year. According littleton is a good guy. He's a hard working guy. He's a guy you want in your locker room. He's not a sloth. He didn't just cash in his millions and network. I like him a lot. That's a young man if they go to a three four. That's the natural position. He played the raiders. Tried to change him. Max crosby could easily slide on player in that defense. I don't think it's that big of a deal to go from four three two three four to me. Whatever you have to do you just got to get the right guy. If i'm jon gruden. I'm approaching this. As i wanna stick with a forty three. I think that's the wrong you have to go with the approach of who is the right guy who can get my defense into the middle of the pack. So i can finally bust through and get in the playoffs. This is great stuff on. And i wanna continue unpacking it all with you right after we take a quick break. And i'm glad you brought up cory littleton because after the break. We're going to hear from him as well as some of other raiders who i spoke with during the conference calls as they closed out the season just on monday and able to get some of their thoughts on how the season went. So we'll hear from them and more from ondo carpenter in a day for. Stay minute tongue back on the vegas nation said green from the biggest nation. Podcast i know salmon ash personally. And they're the only ones. I would trust to take care of my family after an accident. Don't trust some sketchy lawyer. Your tow truck driver recommended trust sam. They're real people. they're genuine they care about their clients and they're invested in getting you the best results possible and while no one can guarantee results. They've collected over. Four hundred million dollars in settlements. So if you've been hurt. Call sam nash. They're available twenty four hours a day at seven. Oh to a two one. Two three four that seven to a to a one two three four or go to sam nash dot com. Because you deserve what's right. Sdn sports is the always sports betting app. You need this season. Sign up today and get a new sign up bonus of up to fifty dollars. Welcome back to the takeaways edition of the vegas nation. Podcast tidy thing and before we get back into the interview with honda carpenter. I want everyone to have listen here. To some of the raiders. That i was able to speak with in their closing press conferences. On the season i was able to speak with some of the offensive of players and head coach. Jon gruden about what their high points were on the season but when the defensive players spoke it started with trayvon molin saying that this team needed an identity and so i thought why not ask them about that and what they think. That identity is so i spoke with trayvon molin about that who you will hear first. And then nicolas moreau. And lastly i ask corey littleton about his expectations for season and how they panned out and his answer was very candid. So we're going to hear from them now well for me. I just want to become a leader for the gods or no younger gospel. Syfy because i knew i was in that position You know Continue to carry guys and No create a platform on. Just no look. We want know what i want Like i do set goals for myself all the time and things that i need to pinpoint all things that i can help us as a group get better at all so like i said we can just build. I wanted to ask nichols just about this season. We've heard trayvon say that the defense needs and identity and you know the only way to go. Is that right now. We're going to identity. Do you think the defense mean. And how do you get started with it. That's a good question What i think the defense days defense needs I don't know if i'm necessarily position to get us. But i think it's disappointing. Where as a defense we have to decide. We wanna be but i think that being accountable for action being accountable to each other i asked the biggest thing. We just have to hold ourselves to a standard that is acceptable for professional football player. And i think in some cases won't be an honest. We lack the accountability from players and coaches. We all just have to be more accountable. Toss 'cause we're all connected together. We're all what i'm saying. So our success Individually is our success collected me so we'd have to be a kind of one we got gotta spec together enough to put that on take. Yeah i think we did that as a whole on the entire season. Where are you you set for yourself coming into this season with a new team and new city. And how do you feel the result of what you had projected for yourself can't Came out miserably. I've always said that i've always wanted to keep myself and and keep my play at like a top five linebacker and two previous seasons. I had Starting that was always my goal in. I didn't come nowhere clear close to this year. So yeah that's how that went and daniel. Carlson hunter renfrow and jon gruden in that order. Talking about what they're high point was on this season. Yeah it was crazy Such a weird year. You know Weren't able to really leave. The house might see about las vegas. I live so it's just bought a facility and back home every day. And you really don't get to see much and you kind of start to wonder if they're even a fan base in vegas because you don't get anybody new But i think it was. It was a good first season We're gonna look back on in and kinda kinda be appreciative of what we have It was weird. You know having empty stadium But it was cool. And i like i said i think it'd be appreciate when fan you know and I don't know it was. It was definitely different And something that. I think will remember but i think an appreciation kind of thing i can take from it and and the guys on team that when we do have fans back and were able to do the normal thing we're able to do then we'll just feel appreciate it that much more. I think high point for all of us was getting that first win on the road at carolina. First win in. Las vegas raiders history. And then getting our first home win against the new orleans saints Getting those first signature. Las vegas raiders. Wins was really exciting. We have some high. Obviously when an on the road against good teams I'm really really excited about the mental toughness that this team showed. I think it's gonna help us in the long run. So those are some other raiders. And they're closing press conferences on the twenty twenty season and now. Let's get back into his interview with honda carpenter from sports illustrated. I wanted to get your take on. Some of the pieces. Like henry ruggs and bryan edwards. And where they can go in the offseason to improve. That's a great question. Heidi i want dirt cars and elite quarterback when i moved out here last year to cover the raiders. First thing i did is. I reached out to multiple people in the nfl. Coaches assistant coaches members of management. I'm still two players. I wanted people to tell me what they thought of. Derek carr in fairness to derrick and the raider nation. I cover them every day. So i didn't want to read what the beat people said or with the fan. I wanna find out what the people who played against him said nailed me. They thought car was elite. I am one general manager. Said i can't believe the abuse that guy takes on their fans he goes. That guy is a great player in. What's he supposed to do block. Throw the ball. Rundown feeling catchy. Derek carr to me is the criticism. He took was ridiculous. Heidi you were training camp with me. I like marcus mariota. I think he's one of the finest human beings on this planet. That's a guy. Everybody wants her daughter mary. He's a high quality young man with you know that he's kind of got just the dirt. Colonel wanna these players are that one hundred percent agree with you. You know what when you've watched marcus and camp. It wasn't close now. You may disagree but you were there man. I didn't think it was a close competition at all. Not during camp know when he came in and played well. When derek went down injured they still lost because of the defense derek cars at the problem. He's an elite quarterback. You move forward with and you go and you win big games with now on the other hand. You can't afford to just let them waste 'cause you don't say the defense so that was my first. Start looking at the raiders offense. Then i wanna talk about henry ruggs and bryan edwards now. I talked with several people and again. I have an article coming out. A couple of weeks on henry ruggs in so i didn't get my opinion. I didn't go sit in the personal and listen to everybody else's opinion i went to the people who played and said what are your thoughts on rugs. One general manager said to me. That henry and brian suffered from not having not as this year in limited practices saw. Give you an example. How you've seen it all over the internet memes. Were they ripped. Derek carr initial wide open. Henry ruggs the problem is is henry would go run a row. And then derek makes quick reads. He's one of the best one. Gm said to me is the best in the nfl. Get the ball out. Quick and so all of a sudden when henry wasn't in the right spot dinner knee exact right route derek. Had to move away and the scouting report is that since derek gets rid of the ball so quick which is what you want. And why he doesn't get sacked a lot. Then they were able to fade a safety off of henry by eddie's usually in the wrong position so that's not on derek and that's on henry now. Let's be very clear. That criticism is not because henry ruggs lazy. He's a fine young man. I really enjoy henry. Same with brian just to super good kids on this team and i can call kids unlike you younger mates but these are two young kids. That are going to benefit from neo. Ta's they're gonna benefit from work. With derek carr all summer in parks around henderson nevada. These are guys that are gonna benefit from that. That's growing pains. You can't get mad at rookies for playing reich rookies. in fact i'll give you a bit of analysis here in the preseason we wrote it sports illustrated's raider maven that a lot of people are expecting big deals. But let's take a minute and pump the brakes. You don't usually get what you're looking for from rookies. I'm going to go on the record. Right here on the las vegas review journal podcast with the one and only glorious queen of the silver and black. Heidi give me some one. Flaming pitas spain. And i'm gonna say this white now next year. Both of those players are going to have considerably better stats. And they had this year. Why they're going to have the ability to go out and were. You probably don't know who this is high. But i know you got some few people were some gray hair like me to listen because everybody loves heidi thing. But there's an al- cowboy named roy. Rogers say the best thing for a young horse is a wet saddle blanket. What it means is just hard work happens and sometimes these guys have to learn how to run. The right routes learn to ask her. Derek carr reads were met. If i'm not open. How do i work with derek to get open. They didn't have the ot ace to do that. That's not on them. They're not bad guys. You go watch the film in on henry ruggs and bryan edwards. You'll see them take a playoff. These are hard working. Young men both come from good programs. Good families they're gonna fit right in the raiders. So i understand like people are are concerned but you know what. I'm not worried about it. We give you another name nelson agholor. This is a man that played. Well i'm hearing from people on the lake. You believe that the raiders probably showed deal with him workin out some of the manucher to get it done. They're not gonna let him go anywhere but heidi. I'm not sure if you're aware this but wait. of course i'm sure you're the que- inter nation. I'll tell you this. We were the first report. A general manager about eight weeks ago told me. He called it the coming salary cap apocalypse. He told salary cap is gonna drop as much as thirty million dollars. He said russ case. Scenario doesn't think that but could be that the and there are going to be of teams that have the let good players go. That normally would not have caught because they can't afford them they gotta be under the salary cap. This is not where you can pay tax. You're in trouble. So i think you're going to be able to get some guys there l. Let's talk about the very quickly because when you talk about the offense. I don't think there's any chance high love to hear your opinion. Trent brown comes back. I just don't think that's going to him now now ripping threat not call a bad person. It just simply hasn't worked out at the money that he was paid tyrel williams. Is anybody think. I know he was on silver my radio but i don't think there's any chance he's coming back and there's a couple other guys that they're able to cut and get rid of several general. Managers told me the raiders are going to be one of the few teams that are by buyers. Think about they're going to be buyers because might may jon gruden or wise. They were smart. They didn't go overpaid. Look if you don't mind. I don't want to manipulate your podcast. Heidi dating cloudy. There's a lot of rumors about the raiders kicking the tires on their. We broke the story. That the raiders were very interested but they were only interested in a very incentive laden contract. They weren't going to give him big jack because he had a big hit against the michigan quarterback. Now let me tell you. i'm farting go this. Anybody that hits a good nation quarterback he deserves to get paid but not a second or third contract in the nfl so they were willing to say bet on yourself because you know what if they had overpaid him the name. Max crosby raised this year and now they don't so they were smart. Wise the raiders are going to be buyers but clearly they're have to go do some things with the offensive line. We know rodney. Hudson is the best center in all of the nfl. There's nothing better anywhere. I don't care who you put up. I didn't his technique reminds me alive. Mike webster now. Heidi your young go google. That kids do and see who he is. The hall of fame center. For the vaunted pittsburgh steelers during the terry bradshaw airs eight gauge jackson. Great players solid doesn't make mistakes. Colin miller denzel. Good brandon parker. There's plenty of their. The key is going to be health. We know what they have. Hey how big of a year was it when you look at what they were able to do it running backs i know when they voted theoretic. They thought it was going to be able to push. Jalen rashard out to be someone else. Not jalen restarted. Put james back to the search trend. I'm going to. I think it's interesting. I think jalen recharges on the outside looking out coming back next year. He's some money that can come off the cap. So i think offensively lady. There's a lot of are gonna happen but the biggest story other than the new defensive coordinator is going to be the coming. Sour calf apocalypse. In the raiders are gonna be players hongo great stuff man. I mean really. I'm just listening to it. All mesmerized by the smooth vocals here of ondo carpenter and everything else that comes with it and analysis is great stuff One last thing. I want to get your take on here. I wanted to hear your take on how they can improve in red zone. Efficiency is that was something i know they wanted to improve upon this year. Last year. they struggled in it and came away with a lot. More field goals in the end than the raiders wanted. So what do you think they go and do when they look at this and the offseason first of all this is jon. Gruden is play calling and you pass to be a to know what your personnel can do. Many give you an example. I have my oldest daughter was very very smart sheeting. Get it from me. Heidi with her. It was all as in hardly did any work so she gotta be dead. Gone a little bit. My son took more of his dad. He was a big guy like to do the sports whatever and he would work hard and if he gotta be. I mean it was time to celebrate not that i had different expectations of both. I understood what people can do. You're not going to go ask their carplay left tackle and so i think you have to understand who people are what they are and let them function within their gifts and to me when jon gruden is called those plays in the red zone he has to understand his personnel again. This goes back to not having a t. as this really crippled them this year. And i understand where you're nations looking for field goals. I mean they're not looking for. Feel good moral victories but you look at the teams a lot of them. That did make it into the play offs. These are teams. Heidi cool already. Established oriented some routes. Now the raiders. Were going into this shirts. Riding knew what they needed to work on the loss of ata as her. I'm not trying to be a homer. I'm gonna kool-aid server my jumps. To tell the truth. i didn't grow up. Las vegas raiders. Fan this is the only place. I would have moved to cover a sports team and of left the big ten after twenty years. This was the raiders. But i just want to say this. My job's just to tell the truth. And i tell people i mean i said if they lose it denver. A disappointing season becomes a disaster. They needed that apron. Here's my your you. There's a lot of free agents out there who will come play for anything because nobody else wants them. But when you want a free agent. It's good enough. That other people want him. And all the money's equal they're gonna look at the state tax rate nettle fans. Don't think that's true. But they do. But they're also going to look at a franchise ability to win. I was talking to one of those free agents who i happen on a personal basis. That i'd be. The raiders are going to extremely interested in a defensive star. Any said to me. I think it's a big deal that it all three years under jon gruden. They've gotten better records. Darren proving that's a guy that i know is very interested in the raiders. They come knock on his door. So i think there's a lie. Good times ahead. I think there are a lot of things to be concerned about. But i don't think there's any reason for anyone is silver and black to be depressed. Let me be your holt dealer. Let me be football. I agr- salesman get excited. Don't quit don't give up. You got a reason to be sited at honda. The hope dealer joining us here on the show. Thank you honda so much for all of us inside that you gave us today. All of the breakdowns. This is great steph. I'm gonna have to have you on again sometime soon. I hope because you know now that the season's over you're not busy not doing anything. Honda i can't i. Of course you're busy. Always got great stuff coming out. You've told us about some of the articles that you have coming out with all the listeners. Here in anybody watching on zoom where they can find you and connect with you on social media thirdly just go to twitter at honda carpenter. Hr indio crp mtr or go to facebook to sports illustrated's rare making it a place. We love down and people love to have him on there. And i can truly say you're one of my first friends. I made here in the media. You do so good fans. Let me just say this team when you see how you behind the scenes in the press room anti games what i love. She loves what she does. And a lotta times. In journalism. people can become cynics. We can become hardened. And she doesn't. And i love what i do for a living fortunate. I'm blessed heizer. That same approach. Heidi it's why respect you so much and i say what you do and thank you. Because i'm a person covers them every day to do a terrific job. I'll thank you. I'm just lucky to be living the dream and i i can't but we're card. It's just ingrained in me. I don't know how else and that'll do it for us. You're on the vegas nation podcast takeaways edition. Thank you so much for listening. Make sure to hit. Subscribe wherever you find your podcasts and also check out everything that we are doing online vegas nation dot com. 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Takeaways: Nick Kwiatkoski, Gruden, Carr sounds
"Vegas nation podcast is powered by our friends. Sam nash injury law give them a call at seven. Zero two eight two zero one. Two three four or visit salmon. Nash dot com. Because you deserve. What's right. Las vegas is a place where working the system can get you in serious trouble. I'm looking at you card counters. But why not go. After the system in a positive way at salmon we provide that with the best personal injury representation and as a former insurance defense attorney. I know their tricks. And we use that to your advantage with our compassionate ignatius. Drive will get you the maximum settlement that you deserve so call us anytime at seven zero two eight two zero one. Two three four or visit. Sama nash dot com. Because you deserve what's right. Sdn sports is the only sports betting app. You need the season sign up today and get a new site up of up to fifty dollars geneo`. I'm lisa leslie. We're very excited to tell you about our new podcast with blue wire front and center. Lisa and i are breaking down. What's going on in our lives in the world and keeping at one hundred for also learning from amazing guests as well like emmanuel acho people that show love to me forever got their back difficult a fast if the foundation is right than the rest of. It's gonna go wrong for them in more. Subscribe to front and center today. You're listening to vegas nation. It's wednesday which means it's time for takeaways with me. Heidi fame everybody. This takeaways edition of the biggest nation. Podcasts the vegas nation podcast is brought to you by salmon ash injury law and also presented to you by indeed and favorite drink. A favor dot com. I'm heidi fang and today got a great one lined up for you as always. I'm going to bring you an interview. That i was able to get with readers. Linebacker nick could caskey. I was also able to grab from the most recent media. Day with jon. Gruden and some of the other raiders. So we're going to play those a little bit later in the show as well but big win. Here for the raiders. Coming off a divisional win over the chargers. Thirty one to twenty six. It was the final score there in l. a. and now they have another. Afc west rival to face in the denver. Broncos that one coming up here in las vegas this sunday. So we're going to have a great time out with the at allegiant and anybody out there. Come say hi to us. We're always out there nine. Am shooting our game day. Show as we do every week. Live you guys and can catch on cox your view channel fourteen. Also don't forget it. Subscribe wherever you're listening. We always love hearing from you as well so please reach out to me at h. Fang at review journal dot com. If you ever wanna drop me a line or just give some feedback on the show. Anything like that always willing to hear from you guys and find me on twitter at heidi fang as well all right. So let's get into this. I was able to speak with nick wykowski recently. And when i did. We spoke a lot about his role in the defense. And so that's where we are in open up things here. Today's talking with nick wykowski about what it's like for him to be a part of this raiders team and to be a leader. Tony been great lotteries ability and something we talked about. You know when. I first got here so so been prepared for zoom meetings. Things like that Repair even over the computer. What we weren't able to so on for since the beginning we really made a statement here especially in your performance back in cleveland. What was it like for you to come away with that. Fumble what was the i mean. Well force the fumble. What was that feeling like for you. Rose good it. Was you know anytime you got team. Driving downfield the game like dad too. I mean bad weather game. You need turnovers on the ball back and give up through the offense. It's great Turnovers can decide games. So i always trying to get the ball out. Interceptions giving the offense opportunity so as you come around here with this young defense. How do you see yourself as a leader on this team. Do you feel like there's a lot of camaraderie and that you're really kind of coming through into your own and being with all of the team and creating that kind of feeling the vibe in the locker room. What's it like. yeah i mean. It's been different years past going abroad. kind of building relationships and locker room and on the field just just circumstances but i feel like we've come a long way since camps is we got to get on zoo. We've come a long way. It's still working progress but nowhere close roope on defense each week. continuous building. That so excited to you know continue to do that. Injury had kinda kept you out for a couple of games but yeah being sidelined. How hard was that for you to kind of be not able to get into the game as much as you want it to early on the it's rough You know game one slowly. I expected my season to start off But for me that was an opportunity. Just you know staying the film room. How guys you know from a different perspective. Come signs the game on. Stay in the preparation throughout the week. So just help me to stay in the play book and also you know helping guys from a different perspective. You know they're not gonna feel. I see something silent. They come off and can talk about it. So how many like messages like that. You said you gotta try to help out like how do you how do you. I mean help others on this team. How do you see yourself. They're just especially on defense linebacker core Just overall me just seeing place seeing how certain guys and other team play some some opponents we played before personally so any insight. You can help. No young guys knows about their game about my games. Were also to get their respects is gonna just talk. Things over from a dvd protective. See how they see routes coming out. I we should cover kinda everyone communicate and be on the same page helps everyone including myself so i try to be as soon as possible that. What's it like to work under. A guy like john crude and who's been such a story at this franchises so storied and he's such a huge part of it like what. What's it like to work with a guy like him. It's been great. You know he. He brings the energy every day as fun. Coast plate for him every damn for somebody needing he's bringing the energy and getting fired up and it's just. It's a good time so when you came over you talk a little bit about that coming over from the bears. But what's it like now. Being part of this franchise in a new city in las vegas. What kind of statement do you hope to make care. I'm you know for us. Just keep building Cohen to a new city new franchise. I mean it's great You know las vegas coming in. Not later had a football team before note to be the very first team here in just being able to play in new fans. I mean you can feel the energy around the around town how excited they were beforehand. It's continued so i'm excited. You know he played here in keeping that. That was raiders. Linebacker nick wykowski. And when we come back. We're gonna hear more from nick wykowski as well as from some of the raiders. So stay tuned right here on the takeaways edition of the vegas nation podcasts. Have you been injured in a car or motorcycle. Accident and the insurance adjuster will only pay a fraction of your claim or even worse. Nothing at all. That's not right. What is right finding an attorney. Who will be a fighter for you when you need it. Most at san nash. We're revolutionizing personal injury representation by focusing on your rights and your recovery call us anytime at seventy to eighty two zero one two three four or visit sam and ash dot com san menashe. Because you deserve what's right even though sports had a break your business. Didn't you have to keep moving. 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This team is really made a statement with the big hat especially in the cold weather there in cleveland and then getting the win over kansas city so as you guys start getting together in the locker room and all and we talked a little bit about that vibe but now what is the mentality of this team as you start looking towards the second half of the season just taking from the first half the season building off the you know what we did. Maybe not so great know. Correct those things on and taking what we did as well building off that Notes sporting a look back and learn from the waves and learn from the loss. Carry that on law season. We know we're looking at the next game. So just kinda take we've seen the previous few weeks Previous season building on that last thing for me. What is it. Like for you being in like las vegas and trying to adjust and do you have other things that you do. If somebody in las vegas wants to know more about you like what is something that maybe you do off the field. Even though now like football season you might not have a whole lot of time for it but something that you enjoy doing. Travel is being out here I've been able to do much honestly circumstances outer ring flu season but i mean traveling. I love to see vegas. A more won't have just to get out seatown travel nearby destinations. Things like that never lived on this country so just seeing things over here. I mean do lines and again. That was the rest of the interview with nick. Hausky the raiders linebacker. And we still going to talk defense here. Defense played a huge role in the win against the chargers. And we're going to have to see if they can follow up on the performance that they had against the chargers when they face the broncos this sunday but first we're going to have to find out about some of those injuries because trayvon molin was the game. Damon are net. We don't know when he's coming back so head coach jon gruden spoke about is a johnson and we can expect from him. Well we want to be healthy and we think our net is going to be back on the practice field. Today was good to see. Isaiah make some plays. He still a work in progress but he is making progress. And we like to get meek robertson. Some more snaps as well but Although isaiah made a couple of plays at the end of the game there's still some things we need to clean up. That was head coach. Jon gruden talking about isaiah. Johnson who had a huge key play in last week's game against the chargers but now we're going to see how his playtime may or may not increase. So we're going to probably i think. See them trayvon. Doesn't go but we won't see as much if trayvon molin can't go. It's pretty simple process there. I think but like gruden said he's a work in progress. So big things expected. I think from isaiah johnson who missed a lot of last season and then comes into his second season here. Making a couple of big plays when the raiders needed it even if the defense wasn't everything. I think that the fans wanted to be your coach. Gruden wanted to be or paul. Guenther wanted it to be Throughout the game in the course of giving up twenty six points to the chargers and allowing them to get down the field on that final drive but even so They came up big when needed. And that's something that i think. This raiders team has done. Well is they found ways to win. And i'm going to get you up to date as well with some of the other sounds that we heard on today's media call that's wednesdays media. Call here with the raiders. And we're able to get some more sounds from the players so right now. I'm gonna bring you quarterback derek carr who spoke about how he's looking at things this season because certainly he is playing at a different level and a not trying to say that in a skill type of way because we know what their car has been capable of but in this third year under gruden system. He said this in fact. I think i'm gonna play that clip. He said this on the post game that it took him a while to really get adjusted gruden scheme and now he feels much more comfortable in it as you learn the system. You can play faster. You can get through progressions faster and and be able to extend plays and so absolutely. It's helped just being in the same system. Because i can. Now get through my reads faster. Get out of the pocket and either run for a first down or been able to throw for big places really. It's going to help our offense you know especially on a stretch. Run as we keep rolling. Here's some more. Derek carr on that attitude that he's had the prisons that he's had and the feeling that he has as he heads into all of these divisional games this week. Again against the broncos members play. these guys I think i think one of favorite members but was one of the number that pops into my mind. Just obviously i've known vaughn against against fine now for seven years. Although i won't blame the sheer never forget what. The first time i've played. I literally caught the snap and as the ball was coming back to me. Fawn was even with the football. And i remember catching the ball. Taking one step forward a any ticket drop took extent. Step forty sachsenhausen slate. And what am i supposed to what. What am i supposed to do with that. You know and it was one of those moments where you leave out in the member base. You take your kids about it. As he's getting his gold jacket and all that kind of stuff also at home when he jumped on me like literally just took the ball from me and it happened so fast that i have been ground and then was like. Where's the ball. He was already up celebrating with. And what you want me to do. Sorry you know But just some memories of those kind of place. I'm not gonna get into the win and take jabs out of that right now but You know. I got some good memories to coach. Gruden also spoke about nick wykowski in his progress with the team during a media availabilities. So here's coach. Gruden talking about the leader that night cook hausky is defense. He's really important us. I think The war he's been around more unicating is become he's not really a loud scream and yeller type but we need our middle linebacker bucket. Reminders checks and alerts. I think the more these spray more. That's on out as leadership. Play making his intensity things we feed off of and we need a lot more down stretches. Great stuff there from coach. Jon gruden as well as derek carr. I appreciate everybody as always for coming on here. Listening to the show as i break down things that have happened with this team in the last nine weeks so again. We're now into week ten. I can't believe it. I just seems like yesterday. We were starting the season and here. We are weak ten. The broncos are very formidable opponent. That's another thing that jon gruden talked about is the broncos their level of play. What he thinks about coach vic fangio. So let's hear from him on that. I give this team a lot of credit They can come from behind a proven at two weeks in a row. They were down big and the charger game two weeks ago and lock brought him back to win really impressive they have firepower to go over your head they can run it and then last week Just yesterday against atlanta they way behind and they made that one possession game and they fought their tails off to get back in it. So we know what we're in for fangio's great coach outstanding defensive mind and their offense is young and talented in emerging. Now i'm going to wrap things up here on the show. And i will be back next week again with another interview lined up for you guys so make sure to subscribe wherever you're listening and i will keep you as always up with the latest happening with the raiders as well as all these great interviews that i'm able to get and i'd love to think nick wykowski for his time in joining the show last week and nick wykowski and his time and joining the show and guys If you wanna find me again do that on twitter at heidi fang. I'm more apt to answer there than any place else. And make sure while you're here to check out some of our other great shows as well we had the golden edge podcast. There's also the first and ten show of indian sam and unsportsmanlike conduct without a hill. And at greenie on friday. So that'll do for me here today. Guys i'll be back next week. 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Raiders head to Houston, HOF'er Willie Brown remembered
"Hey Vegas nation listeners I wanNA take thirty seconds to introduce you to a new podcast from the Review Journal called critical condition accounts from one October it's a five part series sharing the power awful stories of to Las Vegas officers who responded to the scene of the one October shooting on the Las Vegas Strip you can find wherever you are listening to the podcast right now just search but he says the nobody wanted him to wear that number twenty four more than Willie Brown I mean Greg you've been in the NFL for quite some time what can you tell us about Willie Brown the passing of have Charles Woodson and other man that Don the number twenty four Jersey and he even said that when he got to the raiders there were two numbers available thirty nine and twenty four biggest nation presented by SDN sports mobile from station casinos hey everyone it's time for another episode of the Vegas Nation podcast brought to you by Sdn Sports Mobile Station Casinos. Don't forget to check US OUT AT VEGAS nation Houston Texans this Sunday so we'll get into all of that and preview the game and give you all the information on the latest injuries and everything but first we have to pay tribute to A Raider great who passed Willie Brown number twenty four I mean there've been so many great tributes going around right now but I think my favorite had to be packers for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and the Patriots for the Boston Globe Elsa did a stint at a sports illustrated at the M. Qb Dot Com and well and also you have been working in Boston for quite some time with your own sports journal tell us a little bit about yourself greg and welcome to the show thanks I'm excited it's I think it's an exciting team it's an up and coming team it's a team that I I expect as long as their quarterback doesn't fumble Avni. I'm happy to be here I've been covering the League on well on a full-time basis since two thousand four I covered the dolphins for the Palm Beach Post aimed with the raiders here this wild road trip that started back on September fourteenth with the Minnesota Vikings will finally come to a close with the dot com download the biggest nation APP to follow everything happening with the raiders comment while you're there we always love hearing from you guys let us know how you think we're doing men just what he meant to this organization well I mean first of all in terms of the raiders I mean I don't think there was any former raider you know go figure who was more proud of being reiter than Willet Brown and I think that was first and foremost you that was reflected in Mark Davis is statement how out of the end zone from the one yard line too often going forward I this should be a team that should contend for a playoff spot so I'm interested to see what happens the rest of the year how in today's NFL has become such a man coverage game defensively and really Willie Brown pioneered that any really did it because he had to I mean you're talking about we'll talk back to you too we'll get some comments out there on social media where you can follow us as well on twitter today joining the show we have miles esiason's and Adam Hill we're trying to bring the right kind of people in here we think that can build championship football team has the most loyal fans in the world I know it hurts that we might not on the show today we are going to get into more things greg about what he just said where the raiders stand we also have a statement lined up for you todd dewey we're going to break down the keys to the AH have currently still have my own website covering the Patriots up close but now I'm at in sort of a national slash raiders spin to this thing and is trying to do that today I mean you know maybe maybe cloudy is somebody who could possibly but like it's very few and far between but he did that and black and so I think first and foremost you know he was a writer at heart but in terms of the NFL. I mean you're talking about the guy who invented bump and run coverage I mean you know now what she meant to his family you know he he he was a fixture at training camp at Games This is a guy who really believed in in almost blood silver the Oakland raiders forever but we are still waiting action I think it's going to be a dope get an army coming into things and he wasn't gonNA run with some of these guys we got physical with them and you know the the highlights that you see you see that over and over again for him you know he really pioneered that and for that reason he'll go down as one of the greats of the position Adam you and miles were down in Alameda yesterday. Where the raiders practice here's an from gruden and from really everybody in the organization was just the passion that he had for the organization and how much like you could just genuinely tell his love aide Jon Gruden before he took questions in the media kind of opened up and just said hey listen I just want to talk about this this is something that's very important to me and I think what you what you got from the player where did you gather from the sense of the team as far as the passing a willing Brown light right now is that we're gonNA sation feeling that loss you could tell I it is and it's unbelievable to think about now but this is a guy who was a defensive end and tight end in college and then he converted to cornerback in the pros I mean just thinking about any of the hill and you didn't you didn't see the gesture it was four so we're all in the house and also joining us today we have Greg Dard he's NFL writer here at the Review Journal hey that was a true raider at heart as Charles Woodson had said in his statement about Willie Brown I mean as the team heads in so we are name we've been working together for so long forgotten I get you I understand Inter name forget your name at all I was just pointing at you and you weren't looking up as like Adams Arocca obviously with the organization that will do that number proud I'm sure as this carries on and his career starts going on wearing that twenty four will really mean since I think that sometimes that kind of stuff can only go so far and I think especially because in a way Willie Brown was kind of I don't see removed figuring out at first and he's like kind of what's going on with this guy and then realize like man this is just a guy that loves this organization and loves this franchise so I think all everybody that talked about him Houston is this something like that they get extra fire in their belly to try to make you know Willie Brown proud and the organization proud as they head into face these so I think that's kind of the Senate you dare card's Kinda talked about Being one of the first people he met when he was drafted by the raiders in You know just he kind of thing like this I mean but it is a difficult time in and around the Raiders Organization in terms of you know legends passing away Cliff Branch pass away just before the start of the regular in time like your Derek horrors of the world may be Rodney Hudson is another guy that comes to mind because he's been around for so long but I think just generally though I think really important for your to the Raiders Organization but today I'm not necessarily sure how much that motivates them well not playing but still wearing that twenty four Jonathan Abram he's from the organization but he's not as necessarily close to some of the members of the organization some of the younger players as he would have been to a players who have been around for a while maybe more the road trip coming to an end and how all of that has kind of played out might be a little bit better as more motivating factor than some season is well not something that John Gruener yesterday too so I think in some ways yes it's something that they can rally round but I think also just from the culture standpoint you know yes he is there were other runs where he just you know whiffed on tackles just when you're trying to build a team like the raiders are obviously and you know they want their foundations were again those tackling issues and I think at the end of the day Jon Gruden is right when he says he wants to see the younger players in what they can do Trayvon Molin is a guy that drafted in the second tackle guys bring them to the ground and he wasn't just he just wasn't doing matt and I think from that standpoint you want guys that are going to be tough they're going to be rugged that are going for the raiders and everything about the franchise in how it came across all of them they they all said hey the first time we met him we just got how important this all was to him is two guys who were drafted by a previous regime these are the kinds of things that are going to happen and so that to me explain everything with colleagues just kind of weird that they're going to go see him the the raiders He struggled a bit here this year but it might be because it was more of a zone system maybe you know he was looking to play that man to man more more the players but I think it's a twofold thing I think one you're the performance just was not great I mean I think you look at what happened in that packers game there are some times optima not but that's not really the scheme here in the raiders defense so miles what do you make of this trade with Conley Jon Gruden says it's about the fact that they wanna play some of the something to him I'm sure but let's get into some of the latest news here going on with the team we're is a big trade that happened as far as in the Secondary Wick Area Conley to be able to really be the kind of cornerback that you need them to be a minority to be successful and just right now Cali there were some breakdowns in coverage there not measuring up and when you have a guy who was drafted by the previous regime you know and you know I think miles and Adam have done a really good job pointing out about how you know it this is not a one game thing this is a guy who you know when you play this type of scheme you count on those quarterbacks to come up and tackle tough on the edge and there was there was a play early in the game where you know he just didn't have his head on the swivel and he totally lost containment on the edge and didn't even threaten a run that went for ten yards be tough hard nosed disciplined guys and they have a ways to go on the discipline part but just in terms of toughness gehring Conley which is around as a Johnson is a guy that they drafted in the fourth round and he's not eligible to come off of injured reserve yet but he's somebody that they want to see play so when you have guys that you've drafted yourself as is weak Heidi let's miles is being nice because he covers the team on the day to day basis which I totally get you know he's picked each choosing his words carefully Conley with just one of those guys who was not doing it and I think they send a message to the locker room they said look you better strap up you better tackle hard or else you're not going to be playing for this team again it wasn't him it wasn't his regime it was the previous regime and I think those guys have learned if you're not buying in and you're not fully fully sold into the program you're going to be moving on so you know it's do or die especially this week against the Texans who is a team that they could be in a playoff race for for a wildcard spot These guys need to step up their game he was going to head to Houston anyway but now he's going to do it to face his former team the raiders this former Ohio state standout drafted in the first round of twenty seventeen under Jon Gruden or you're going to be gone and I think it sent a signal to the locker room and I thought it was smart to do at this point because this is a really crucial part of the season for this raiders team it's just talked about how genuine that wasn't how much came across whenever you were around him and miles when a team has this kind of loss of the sense of somebody that meant so much of that organization I do think you know it's one of those things that stands out in your mind and say yeah he's been very very hesitant to go into contact the last couple of weeks and certainly against Green Bay absolutely was and really weren't going to get a third round pick out of anybody else so I think when you have a guy who you drafted in the first round and you believe him to be a bust there's only so much it was a huge factor of him not being willing to be physical right now the last couple of weeks and I think that was a big part of moving data makes a very valid point that you get sure I mean it's not even just coverage right like connelly could have been able to get his head in there and say probably get his body in there and really answer like six or seven guys left from the previous regime that's it just in like two not even two years they are looking you better come and play the raiders way you know let's call spade a spade I mean gehring Conley shuttle a lack of a real lack of toughness and guts in that game and I think that Jon Gruden was just sick of that a lot with NFL players that they get a neck scare and things like that and they kind of duck contact a little bit but when I went back and I watched some film of Mullen you know one of the first really did Mullen beat his blocker but he came up and he made a tackle for one yard loss and that's the kind of that's the kind of stuff you need on the edge in this defense or you're just not gonNA play so the trade deadline comes up here October twenty ninth grade do anticipate the raiders making more moves before then you know I'm not sure about that I don't know maybe these guys round pick that's pretty good value and the raiders did go pretty heavy on these clemson guys that being trayvon Molin number forty in this past drafts what I mean he just hasn't made an impact on the field I know one of the things he talked about yesterday was he's very very angry at pro football focus and you can read about that the physicality definitely is something needed I think miles how do you grade this and the trade that the raiders made getting a third round pick you know I think they probably got the best the moment and I'm wondering how hesitant he's been because of that how much that changed him and I think you can only time before he wanna talk about that or anybody on the team would really WanNa talk about that but because they have moved on from almost all of them but I do think it's interesting first of all car kind of pointed that out about mullen he said he's GonNa stick head there and make lace that was not an accident even doc plays came up was in week three against the Vikings he got into the game and there was an off tackle run by the Vikings and you know not only did matt four years in order to I think truly great out the trade but at least initially I think if you have a guy who you don't believe can be a starter and you end up trading him for he in a played out against the packers to these guys just do not get pressure on the quarterback and I don't know if Farrell coming back and getting more into the mix is just going to solve that he does get a chance to to rush the passer your he's just not showing up not only not getting sacks you're just not even seeing him in the backfield and seeing them you know pressure anybody so it's been an issue oh you that you're going to be able to get back now obviously we have to see who they pick with this third rounder in been wow that third rounder then performs over the next three off hand I don't know where these guys are as far as cap room but I mean if if I'm the raiders you know one of the things I was looking over with their stats is like and you see this in the game I don't know if had something to do with that play if it had something to do with that scare of saying hey this could all be over in an instant and you never know on the field those are things that are interesting but certainly I mean one it might hurt maybe I mean these guys just they they they have to get more pressure on the quarterback you know the raiders really struggle still very early in his career I'm not saying it's don he's never going to be good who knows it just hasn't been there yet so I certainly don't in in you know we're still waiting for it's not happening I know that there's another guy that I've gotten about thirty questions about from the Patriots I cannot see and I don't know I've seen Jon Gruden not specifically talking about them but said hey these guys are just looking for saks he's doing other things I haven't seen it I don't know what he's doing out there he just has not been a playmaker seen anything happened with Josh's Gordon today but I cannot see that happening people are begging for him with with what Hayward Bay with what they went through with Tonio Brown to him getting suspended again last year I will say he's been very unreliable in terms of his health this year he's had knee problems all year he the reason so I don't know I haven't heard anything from people there about him sort of slacking off and maybe there's but maybe they're seeing some sort of some of the signs that led up I just don't I don't think I don't think there's an appetite for that around there but I guess you'd never yeah I mean look you know I've covered Gordon Close for a couple of years I mean you know we're talking about one critical condition accounts from one October or visit review journal Dot com back slash podcast for more information now on Vegas nation the most unreliable players in NFL history. I mean he I can't even remember the last time he finished the season with the team and you know there's there's always when Bill Belichick does something there's quick break step away talk to do about some betting numbers for the raiders this week but when we come back we're going to talk about this upcoming game some injuries and get you caught up here with if I had to pick one thing because there are a bunch of things on defense that they need but if they could find a veteran pass rusher that could really add something to the mix I think that would trayvon mullet said when he was he said Hey I'm GonNa go make a tackle if it's to my time and make a tackle I'm gonNA attack on them to do that but I do think it's interesting with Gary on comedy though I WanNa go it coming up today is that fair almost like yes he who's a forty six point eight one hundred nine out of one hundred twelve qualifying edge defenders free arden key well who's who's injured right now and hasn't really been a difference maker either so these are guys that they're looking to make a you know an impact of getting the quarterback of putting pressure on guys they're just not doing it and I know you know one of the things that said he hasn't been on the on the edge a whole lot he's had to move inside decided necessity they've needed bodies and he's been playing inside a little bit but when he's on the outside everything silver and black so stay tuned all right as we had to the midpoint of the season we had a little bit discussion there on how we're raiding the raiders you know he bent his knee back in the giants game. I would not be running to get on the Josh Gordon Train and as we head into Houston we're going to take oh football focus and he said those guys have been wrong all the way back to college where they said our defensive wind sock than I thought it was the best of Line College football history that's according to clean them for all I know really do them well Adam you said it might hurt it was kind of a nod to Max crosby and his ability to kind of get to the quarterback right now a difference maker he's been a playmaker while Cleveland for all has at this point as they head into week but what I'd like to do now is turn it over to todd do ers sports betting columnists here at the Review Journal who's going to tell us what he had a a a and it wasn't from making hit it was Some contacted he had with Abram on the sideline or is just a kind of a fluke fluke play but he was card off it was a very very scary they probably that was being offered in that's probably the weirdest thing about why he's with the Houston Texans right now in why they're they sent him there the week that they're going to play the Texans back and haven't done haven't had time to do it some film from last year because remember going on comey hit a huge scare in week one against the Broncos he was carted off the field it was very telling you know what would have said is hey we want to get younger and it's amazing to say that when you are trading at twenty four year old in the first round a couple years ago but the shop that brutal six weeks stretch away from home at home game since September fifteenth couple of sevens out there too if you want to take the rate is getting seven the numbers are on the raiders this week in the betting world todd what do you got for us. Yeah thanks I e the raiders getting six and a half points at Houston as if defanged for all the guys here on the show thank you so much for listening raiders but only ten days ago they were gifted a win over the lions on Monday night football but now everybody's all over the packers a back so sharps took the charges getting five points at the bears net on the look ahead line they always have the next week's games are up at the West Gate right now before are you can't go in there also getting a couple of guys back from injury and yeah the packers are probably at their stocks at their highest right now after lighting up the to fourteen now the dolphins owen sex but the covered their last two games over the redskins and bills steelers coming off the bye after beating the child Redskins last week so I'm GonNa let you tell who to take maybe this time I'll listen stopped to take the redskins I couldn't pull the trigger which has been inconsistent coming off the law said Indianapolis and their offensive line's getting beat up again giving up a lot of sacks. Jj Watt is on the decline there. Oh Alvin Kamara back this week the cardinals won three straight but not executive murderers row of the bengals Falcons and giants charts also on the Bronx kneecap last week and even if he doesn't play though Kansas City's at ten days to prepare and Andy Reid is at ten days to prepare backup quarterback Matt Moore defense isn't what it used to be so couple sharp guys I talked to a leaning to the raiders who discovered that another draft pick from Houston for next year's draft I don't WanNa open that seven and a half and it's up to ten and a half right now the sharp stick the saints at Ten Saints won five straight with drew brees but they might get him back and it's not technically a sharp play but people I spoke with our high on the raiders and if they added but this one they would take the raiders okay well what else do you have for us what are the colts are also a five and a half point favorites at home as you might recall the raiders when they lost thirty one twenty four speaking of the chiefs sharps took the chiefs getting foreign for this Sunday's games in that that number went from six and a half down to four in both teams are expected to be contenders this year to go on the playoffs last up to thirteen now actually they bet on the browns before Monday night football so now the line is higher based on the Patriots Dominant Twenty five years at a team covered without scoring but yeah got some sharp plays around town go through them here for you. The chargers fear but neither team has lived up to preseason hype sharps on the charges at the bears sharps also took the saints at home over the cardinals ages on the road and one more sharply the shops are all over the browns over the Patriots getting eleven and a half eleven and ten and a half that line this episode of Vegas Nation will be right back. Sdn Sports is the only sports betting APP you need this season sign up today and it goes getting sticks at the colts that number down to five and a half Denver's at ten days to prepare for that one after a whip by the chiefs at home without mahomes the first half three and three straight up against the spread and two and two straight up and against the spread during this stretch games away from home we'll end here in Houston today we are talking all things raiders and of course this week eight matchup coming up in Houston the raiders last game of this strenuous road trip that they've been Lucia looked to be the player there for the sharps and then the sheriff's also took the dolphins game fourteen and a half at the steelers Monday
Raiders head to Houston, HOF'er Willie Brown remembered
"Hey Vegas nation listeners I wanNA take thirty seconds to introduce you to a new podcast from the Review Journal called critical condition accounts from one October it's a five part series sharing the power we're full stories of to Las Vegas officers who responded to the scene of the one October shooting on the Las Vegas Strip you can find wherever you are listening to the podcast right now just search Houston Texans this Sunday so we'll get into all of that and preview the game and give you all the information on the latest injuries and everything but first we have to pay tribute to Vegas Nation presented by STN's mobile from station casinos hey everyone it's time for another episode of the Vegas Nation podcast brought to you by Sdn Sports Mobile Station casinos don't forget to check us out at Vegas Nation a raider great who passed Willie Brown number twenty four I mean there've been so many great tributes going around right now but I think my favorite had to be the well and also you have been working in Boston for quite some time with your own sports journal tell us a little bit about yourself greg and welcome to the show dot com download the Vegas nation APP to follow everything happening with the raiders comment while you're there we always love hearing from you guys let us know how you think we're doing Charles Woodson and other man that Don the number twenty four Jersey and he even said that when he got to the raiders there were two numbers available thirty nine and twenty four the packers for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and the Patriots for the Boston Globe also did a stint at a sports illustrated at the M. Qb Dot Com and grab me. I'm happy to be here you know I've been covering the League on well on a full-time basis since two thousand four I covered the dolphins for the Palm Beach Post we'll talk back to you to get some comments out there on social media where you can follow us as well on twitter today joining the show we have miles as Simmons and Adam Hill. I'm excited it's I think it's an exciting team it's an up and coming team it's a team that I I expect as long as their quarterback doesn't fumble Ah have currently still have my own website covering the Patriots up close but now I'm at in sort of a national slash raiders spin to this thing and out of the end zone from the one yard line too often going forward this should be a team that should contend for a playoff spot so I'm interested to see what happens the rest of the year is trying to do that today I mean you know maybe maybe Clowney is somebody who could do it possibly but like it's very few and far between but he did that and on the show today we are going to get into more things with Gregg about what he just said where the raiders stand we also have a betting statement lined up for you todd dewey we're going to break down the keys to the black and so I think first and foremost you know he was a writer at heart but in terms of the NFL I mean you're talking about the guy who invented bump and run coverage I mean you know now but he says the nobody wanted him to wear that number twenty four more than Willie Brown I mean Greg you've been in the NFL for quite some time what can you tell us about Willie Brown the passing of we're trying to bring a right kind of people in here we think can build championship football team has the most loyal fans in the world I know it hurts that we might not mm-hmm and what he meant to this organization well I mean first of all in terms of the raiders I mean I don't think there was any former raider you know the Oakland raiders forever but we are still waiting action I think it's going to be getting army coming into things now in today's NFL has become such a man coverage game defensively and really Willie Brown pioneered that he really did it because he had to. I mean you're talking about Erkel figure who was more proud of being reiter than Willet Brown and I think that was first and foremost you that was reflected in Mark Davis statement how and he wasn't going to run with some of these guys we got physical with them and you know the the highlights that you see you see that over and over again in for him you know he really pioneered game with the raiders here this wild road trip that started back on September fourteenth with the Minnesota Vikings will finally come to a close with the much he meant to his family you know he he he was a fixture at training camp at Games This is a guy who really believed in in almost blue blood silver here's an from GRUDEN and from really everybody in the organization was just the passion that he had for the organization and how much like you could just genuinely tell his love lead Jon Gruden before he took questions in the media kind of opened up and just said hey listen I just want to talk about this this is something that's very important to me and I think what you what you got from the plate Houston is this something like that they get extra fire in their belly to try to make you know Willie Brown proud and the organization proud as they head into face these hey that was a true raider at heart as Charles Woodson had said in his statement about Willie Brown I mean as the team heads in maybe more the road trip coming to an end and how all of that has kind of played out might be a little bit better as more motivating factor than some sometime like your Derek cars of the world may be Rodney Hudson is another guy that comes to mind because he's been around for so long but I think just generally though I think figuring out at first and he's like kind of what's going on with this guy then realize like man this is just a guy that loves this organization and loves this franchise so I think all everybody that talked about him Arocca obviously with the organization that will do that number proud I'm sure as this carries on and his career starts going on wearing that twenty four will really mean thing like this I mean but it is a difficult time in and around the Raiders Organization in terms of you know legends passing away cliff branch pass away just before the start of the regular for the raiders and everything about the franchise and how it came across to all of them they they all said hey the first time we met him we just got how important this all was to hit since I think that sometimes that kind of stuff can only go so far and I think especially because in a way Willie Brown was kind of I don't see removed hill and you didn't see you didn't see the gestures for so we're all in the house and also joining us today we have Greg Yard he is nfl writer here at the Review Journal from the organization but he's not as necessarily close to some of the members of the organization some of the younger players as he would have been to a players who have been around for a while where did you gather from the sense of the team as far as the passing a willing brown like how much right now is that we're gonNA sation feeling that loss you can tell were again those tackling issues and I think at the end of the day Jon Gruden is right when he says he wants to see the younger players in what they can do Trayvon Molin is a guy that drafted in the second that and for that reason he'll go down as one of the greats the position Adam you and miles were down in Alameda yesterday. Where the raiders practice really important for your to the Raiders Organization but today I'm not necessarily sure how much that motivates them well not playing but still wearing that twenty four Jonathan Abram he's so I think that's kind of the sense you got Derek kind of talked about being one of the first people he met when he was drafted by the raiders in You know just he kinda often not but that's not really the scheme here in the raiders defense so miles what do you make of this trade with Conley all Jon Gruden says it's about the fact that they wanna play some of the L. Name now we've been working together for so long I get you to name forget your name at all I was just pointing at you and you weren't looking up like this week Heidi let's miles is being nice because he covers the team on the day to day basis which I totally get you know he's picked each choosing his words carefully there were other runs where he just you know whiffed on tackles I mean that's just when you're trying to build a team like the raiders are obviously and you know they want their foundation something him I'm sure but let's get into some of the latest news here going on with the team we're big trade that happened as far as in the secondary Wick Area Conley season is well not something that John Gruener yesterday too so I think in some ways yes it's something that they can rally round but I think also just from the culture standpoint you know yes he is to be tough hard nosed disciplined guys and they have a ways to go on the discipline part but just in terms of toughness gehring Conley is two guys who were drafted by a previous regime yeah these are the kinds of things that are going to happen and so that to me explain everything with colleagues just kind of weird that they're going to go see him the raiders He struggled a bit here this year but it might be because it was more of a zone system maybe you know he was looking to play that man to man more more not measuring up and when you have a guy who was drafted by the previous regime and you know I think miles and Adam have done a really good job pointing out about how you know what tackle guys bring them to the ground and he wasn't just he just wasn't doing that and I think from that standpoint you want guys that are going to be tough they're going to be rugged that are going but this is not a one game thing this is a guy who you know when you play this type of scheme you count on those quarterbacks to come up and tackle tough on the edge and there was and to be able to really be the kind of quarterback that you need them to be among order to be successful and just right now Cali there were some breakdowns in coverage there there was a play early in the game where you know he just didn't have his head on the swivel and he totally lost containment on the edge in and didn't even threaten a run that went for ten yards anger players but I think it's a twofold thing I think one the performance just was not great I mean I think you could look at what happened in that packers game there are some times under Jon Gruden or you're going to be gone and I think it sent a signal to the locker room and I thought it was smart to do at this point because this is a really crucial part of the season for this raiders team it's Conley with just one of those guys who was not doing it and I think they send a message to the locker room they said look you better strap up you better tackle hard or else you're not going to be playing for this team answer like six or seven guys left from the previous regime that's it just in like two not even two years they are looking you better come and play the raiders way let's call a spade I mean gehring Conley showed a lack of a real lack of toughness and guts in that game and I think that Jon Gruden was just six again it wasn't him it wasn't his regime it was the previous regime and I think those guys have learned if you're not buying in and you're not fully fully sold into the program you're going to be moving on I it is and it's unbelievable to think about now but this is a guy who was a defensive end and tight and in college and then he converted to cornerback in the pros I mean just think about any of the he was going to head to Houston anyway but now he's going to do it to face his former team the raiders is former Ohio state standout drafted in the first round of two thousand seventeen kind of you know it's do or die especially this week against the Texans who is a team that they could be in a playoff race for for a wildcard spot these guys need to step up their game really weren't going to get a third round pick out of anybody else so I think when you have a guy who you drafted in the first round and you believe him to be a bust there's only so much I do think you know it's one of those things that stands out in your mind and you say yeah he's been very very hesitant to go into contact the last couple of weeks and certainly against Green Bay absolutely was and sure I mean it's not even just coverage right like connelly could have been able to get his head in there and say probably get his body in there and really it was a huge factor of him not being willing to be physical right now the last couple of weeks and I think that was a big part of moving data makes a very valid point that you get the physicality definitely is something needed I think miles how do you grade this and the trade that the raiders made getting third round pick you know I think they probably got the best that a lot with NFL players that they get a neck scare and things like that and they kind of you know contact a little bit but when I went back and I watched some film of Mullen one of the around as a Johnson is a guy that they drafted in the fourth round and he's not eligible to come off of injured reserve yet but he's somebody that they want to see play so when you have guys that you've drafted yourself as because they have moved on from almost all of them but I do think it's interesting first of all car kind of pointed that out about mullen he said he's GonNa stick there and make plays that was not an accident even I just talked about how genuine that wasn't how much came across whenever you were around him and miles when a team has this kind of loss of the sense of somebody that meant so much of the organization round pick that's pretty good value and the raiders did go pretty heavy on these clemson guys that being trayvon Molin number forty in this past drafts not only did Mullen beat his blocker but he came up and he made a tackle for one yard loss and that's the kind that's the kind of stuff you need on the edge in this defense or you're just not gonNA play the moment and I'm wondering how hesitant he's been because of that how much that changed him and I think you need time before he WanNa talk about that or anybody on the team would really want to talk about that but so the trade deadline comes up here October twenty ninth grade do anticipate the raiders making more moves before then you know I'm not sure about that I don't know maybe these guys I don't know if it had something to do with that play it was something to do with that scare of saying hey this could all be over and you know in an instant and you never know on the field those are things that are interesting but certainly for years in order to truly great out the trade but at least initially I think if you have a guy who you don't believe can be a starter and you end up trading him for yeah I mean he just hasn't made an impact on the field I know one of the things he talked about yesterday was he's very very angry at pro football focus and you can read about that Oh you're going to be able to get back now obviously we have to see who they pick with this third rounder in been wow that third rounder then performs over the next three is plays came up was in week three against the Vikings he got into the game and there was an off tackle run by the Vikings and you know not only did off hand I don't know where these guys are as far as cap room but I mean if if I'm the raiders of the things I was looking over with their stats is like and you see this in the Game Jon Gruden not specifically talking about them but said hey these guys are just looking for saks he's doing other things I haven't seen it I don't know what he's doing out there he just has not been a playmaker pretty struggle it's still very early in his career I'm not saying it's don he's never going to be good who knows it just hasn't been there yet so I certainly don't in in you know we're still waiting for Trayvon mullet said when he was he said Hey I'm gonna go make a tackle if it's to my time and make a tackle I'm GONNA go make attack on I'm GonNa do that but I I I do think it's interesting with Gary on comedy though I wanna go in a played out against the packers to these guys just do not get pressure on the quarterback and I don't know if Farrell coming back and getting more into the mix is just going to solve that coming up today is that fair almost like yes he who is forty six point eight one hundred nine out of one hundred twelve qualifying edge defenders free pro football focus and he said those guys have been wrong all the way back to college where they said our divine sucked and I thought it was the best of Lyon College football history that's according to clean the fraud it's not happening I know that there's another guy that I've gotten about thirty questions about from the Patriots I cannot see and I don't know I've seen a and I know you know one of the things that said he hasn't been on the on the edge a whole lot he's had to move inside out of necessity they've needed bodies and he's been playing inside a little bit but when he's on the outside the most unreliable players in NFL history. I mean he I can't even remember the last time he finished the season with a team and you know there's there's always when bill belichick does something there's really do them well Adam you said it might hurt it was kind of a nod to Max crosby and his ability to kind of get to the quarterback right now been a difference maker playmaker while Cleveland for all has he does get a chance to to rush the passer your he's just not showing up not only not getting sacks you're just not even seeing him in the backfield and seeing them you know pressure anybody so it's been an issue as a reason so I don't know I haven't heard anything from people there about him sort of slacking off and maybe there's but maybe they're seeing some sort of some of the signs that led up critical condition accounts from one October or visit review journal Dot com back slash podcast for more information now on Vegas nation I just don't I don't think I don't think there's an appetite for that around there but I guess you'd Never Yeah I mean look you know I've covered Gordon Close for a couple of years I mean you know we're talking about one to him getting suspended again last year I will say he's been very unreliable in terms of his health this year he's had knee problems all year he quick break step away talk to todd about some betting numbers for the raiders this week but when we come back we're going to talk about this upcoming game some injuries and get you caught up here with at this point as they head into week but what I'd like to do now is turn it over to todd do ers sports betting columnist here at the Review Journal. Who's going to tell us scene of anything happened with Josh's Gordon today but I cannot see that happening people are begging for him that with with what materials Hayward Bay with what they went through with Tonio Brown if I had to pick one thing because there are a bunch of things on defense that they need but if they could find a veteran pass rusher that could really add something to mix up I think that would ardenne keys well who's who's injured right now and hasn't really been a difference maker either so these are guys that they're looking to make a you know an impact of getting the quarterback and putting pressure on guys they're just not doing it everything's sulfur and blacks to stay tuned all right as we had to the midpoint of the season we had a little bit discussion there on how we're raiding the raiders he had a a a and it wasn't from making hit it was Some contacted he had with Abram on the sideline it was just a kind of a fluke fluke play but he was card off it was a very very scary you know he bent his knee back in the giants game I would not be running to get on the Josh Gordon Train and as we head into Houston we're going to take valued they probably that was being offered and that's probably the weirdest thing about why he's with the Houston Texans right now and why they're they sent him there the week that they're going to play the Texans I mean one it might hurt it maybe I mean these guys just they they they have to get more pressure on the quarterback you know the raiders it was very telling certainly what would has it has hey we want to get younger and it's amazing to say that when you were trading at twenty four you're all the way you just drives him in the first round a couple years ago but back and having to have time haven't had time to do it only got some film from last year because remember going on comey had a huge scare in week one against the Broncos he was carted off the field the shop that brutal six week stretch away from Home Evan at home game since September fifteenth couple of sevens out there too if you want to take the rate is getting seven the numbers are on the raiders this week in the betting world todd what do you got for us. Yeah thanks I e the raiders getting six and a half points at Houston as if eighty Fang for all the guys here on the show thank you so much for listening kneecap last week and even if he doesn't play though Kansas City's at ten days to prepare and Andy Reid is at ten days to prepare backup quarterback Matt Moore Colts are also a five and a half point favorites at home as you might recall over the raiders when they lost thirty one twenty four speaking of the chiefs sharps took the chiefs getting foreign it's a fourteen now the dolphins owen sex but the covered their last two games over the redskins and bills steelers coming off the bye after beating the child sharps took the charges getting five points at the bears net on the look ahead line they always have the next week's games are up at the West Gate right now before this year but neither team has lived up to preseason hype sharps on the charges at bears sharps also took the saints at home over the cardinals which has been inconsistent coming off the law said Indianapolis and their offensive line's getting beat up again giving up a lot of sacks. Jj Watt is on the decline there. Oh Alvin Kamara back this week the cardinals won three straight but not executive murderers row of bengals Falcons and giants charts also on the Brian Redskins last week so I'm GonNa let you tell us who to take maybe this time I'll listen it's tough to take the redskins I couldn't pull the up to thirteen now actually they bet on the browns before Monday night football so now the line is higher based on the Patriots Dominate Defense isn't what it used to be so couple sharp guys I talked to a leaning to the raiders who got that another draft pick from Houston for next year's draft in twenty five years at a team covered without scoring but yeah got some sharp plays around town both through them here for you the chargers it's not technically a sharp play but people I spoke with our high on the raiders and upset about this one they would take the raiders. Okay well what else do you have for us what are the they don't want open at seven and a half and it's up to ten and a half right now the sharp stick the saints at Ten Saints won five straight with drew brees but they might get him back and raiders but only ten days ago they were gifted a win over the lions on Monday night football but now everybody's all over the packers back so it goes getting sticks at the colts that number down to five and a half Denver's at ten days to prepare for that one after a whip by the chiefs at home without Mahomes for this Sunday's games in that that number went from six and a half down to four teams are expected to be contenders this year to go on the playoffs last the first half it three and three straight up and against the spread and two and two straight up against the spread during this stretch games away from home we'll end here in Houston the chiefs play there for the sharps and then the sheriff's also took the dolphins game fourteen and a half at the steelers Monday night football the look headline was seventeen This episode of Vegas Nation will be right back SDN sports is the only sports betting APP you need to season sign up today ages on the road and one more share play the shops are all over the browns over the Patriots getting eleven and a half eleven and ten and a half that line you're of Mahomes can't go in there also getting a couple of guys back from injury in yeah the packers are probably at their stocks at their highest right now after lighting up the today we are talking all things raiders and of course this week eight matchup coming up in Houston the Raiders last game this strenuous road trip that they've been did you sign up bonus of up to fifty dollars welcome back to Vegas Nation it's Heidi Fang here along with Adam Hill Mile Simmons and Greg but are joining us okay with this Plantar Fasciitis issued that has been going on for the last few weeks and that's kept him out for the last few weeks so he said that he just has to see how the foot recovers he's a little bit optimistic a little bit yesterday during that media window he is at least on the field he is doing things in so this week looks like it's gotTa be it's a much better chance to play on performance against the jets thirty three nothing win Brown's coming off a buy a home loss to the seahawks after they throttled by the niners Patriots of course rolling eighty hard considering that explosive offense and the explosive nature of it in how well does Shawn Watson can get the ball down the field to I think this was going to be kind of tough for the register and a half and four at home over the packers the number now is Donna three and a half Patrick mahomes practicing this week after dislocating let me again they've only allowed forty eight points in seven games the storage defense air shaping up less than seven points a game but the browns took the sharps took the browns said but I think there's there's other potential you know really tough injuries the deal with the judge Jacob situation is is one that he's come out of pretty much every are we at miles right now with a couple of key players particularly tyrel Williams and Trent Brown yeah we can start with tyrone Williams he was able to practice on Wednesday nick about his potential availability to play but it's still is kind of murky as of this point and then I think Trent Brown to really monitor this week I don't think it's it's absolutely certain that Josh Jacobs goes in men that's a big loss of he doesn't go Gabe Jackson we know came back after missing the first five games herbs on in week eight over on the NFL or you tell me Heidi dingy take skin gloss. We didn't listen to you todd and I did not take the wins I sneak out way for to get to practice here miles is a sneak away final score what's your pet final score I would say probably something game I think almost every game this year there's been time that we're sitting up in the press box hang up there goes Josh Jacobs back to the locker room now he's been able to play through it but he got he got like thirty five to twenty Houston and he's gotTa go okay had a run like no joke so he had to get out last week at least at this point so I if you get those guys back you're going to have a much better chance of of taking on Houston and beating them but it's still gonna be on the has been probably very taxing for a lot of these players a lot of guys are banged up so let's get the report right now for miles who's been down in Alameda and been able to see these guys where a to the practice in Alameda so he'll be updating throughout the day can we're recording here on a Thursday so this coming out on Friday you'll be able to check up the sharp report there Heidi we'll see how they do this week all right todd and for everybody out there who is looking for information on sports betting particularly Tyrone Williams and Trent Brown status you can give miles a follow at miles ace on twitter but let's get into this matchup here for put into him the Monitor I will say that we only saw you know we only get to see them going through like position drills and there's nothing really strenuous going on but trip around on the field he did he was not moving well the pointed out to me is the conspiracy theories out there that don't think he's injured that thinks he was sitting out not because of injury because of the disciplinary issues. I don't think
Takeaways: Scott Bair on the disappearance of Barret Robbins at Super Bowl 37
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Everybody welcome to another takeaways, edition of the biggest nation podcast brought to you by favorite drink favor dot com I'm your host Heidi Fang and as always I've got another great one line up for you this week. I'm going to have to Scott. Bear from NBC Sports Bay area joined the show man. He has got one of the craziest stories in raiders history to break down for us. We're GONNA get all into. Into that, but before we do make sure that you check out. VEGAS NATION DOT COM for all of your up-to-date raiders content download Vega's nation APP and subscribe to this show wherever you are listening so Scott. Bear is going to come on the show and he is going to talk about pro bowl center Barret Robbins who disappeared for Super Bowl thirty seven when the raiders lost to John Gruden's bucks now some of you. You may know that Robbins was out. Getting completely wasted in Tijuana. But do you know why that story is now? Being unveiled a new podcast series called sports uncovered the mysterious disappearance of Barret Robbins, by our media partner NBC Sports, Bay area. They're going to bring everything in this series. You can find that on NBC. SPORTS DOT COM slash bay area slash PODCAST, but first we're going to bring on Scott Bear who as As I said earlier had covered the raiders for years. He's going to join the show to break down what you can expect to hear on the podcast, but more importantly. He's going to also explain how this story came to light. Because the interview was in the trash people, it was about to be thrown away, and it was recovered Scott. Going explain how all of that happened right now as we get, this interview started. was something that just got lost in the shuffle. It was going to be a long form. You know documentary film really. An NBC Sports Bay area's Greg Papa. Longtime former radio Voice of the raiders. And video crew travel all the way down to south Florida. Where Barrett was in prison at Barrett. Sorry was in prison for one of his several UH stretches, and they went into the middle of a jail yard, not into a private cell with a door or anything into jailyard. They sat down over the course of today's with with Robbins and he was very candidate and talked about basically everything and it was kind of a weird. Experience for those guys. That story does that one time they're only security. Guard fell asleep on them right as they got to some very difficult questions. But nonetheless this tape, which is so good and so valuable and I encourage people that listened to the podcast to go watch the interview in its entirety on NBC sports varies Youtube Channel. It ultimately didn't workout getting all of the other components put together, and it got put on a shelf, and then that shelf got dusty right, and then it Kinda sat there forever and eventually when this sports. Uncovered series came about when we said. Hey. Don't forget about this. And and and the person who shot it had to go back and sift through it and try to find exactly where this fantastic interview was, and ultimately a resurrected it, and we really kind of built everything around it, because it hasn't been talking to many people lately so Yeah, that's basically how it worked. It was it was great shot a two day interview that that just never got fully completed and I am glad and happy to say I know that I know that Greg Papa is as well. It's finally seeing the light of day. Now I think at the time some people had said well Greg. Papa was an interview. I read with him on Mercury. News had said that he thought that. Maybe the constant might be to salacious was the actual word so? Now some years later. This is what most seventeen years eighteen years later. When you look back on it in obviously a bit controversial. What is it now that you think that made it less salacious, or was it? Just that times have changed. The audience is ready to receive this kind of interview so in depth with Robbins. Yeah I think that's a good. That's a great question. I think it. Just kinda starts it. It's all about time and distance and I think ultimately that that that that that made it. More accessible for some of the other players to talk about I also think that you know like right at the top of the podcast. They talk about Barret Robbins going down to TJ and engaging in prostitution with multiple you know women in there was a lot of detail that is definitely not PG rated and I think ultimately. Maybe it's just time and again it's the distance of other players now being more comfortable, talking about those types of details exactly what happened and exactly why they happened I. Think ultimately that may be. That's why It's more well-suited now. Than it was then a at said, there's still some stuff that ended up on the on the cutting room floor that you know didn't. Didn't really a quite fit exactly what we were trying to say. I'd love to hear some of that at because I'm already so super intrigued again. This podcast is sports covered that we're talking about the mysterious disappearance of Barret Robbins and Scott you had multiple raiders that were involved in speaking about this and one of interest me was tim. Brown wide receiver for the raiders that said the there's lot of blame to put around Bill Callahan. Who's the coach at the time? who had just replaced Grooten, who is now coaching on the opposite side, but the bucks and that he changed the game plan just. Days before it may be a couple of days before and all of that pressure was falling on Robbins who was known to have depression. They had already determined that ten years prior that he had these type depression issues and that. It may have actually been misdiagnosed, but we'll get into that, but you know. How do you feel like with Tim Brown had to say with Bill Callahan and that. His changing the whole game plan that soon before the game supposed to take place really had an effect on Robbins on what happened. Yeah, and that's that's definitely a working theory, and there are several of them. I think ultimately I mean Tim Brown in the PODCAST, legitimately, says Bill Callahan's the worst thing that ever happened to this organization. That is no mincing words from a guy with incredible status, both within the NFL and also. Within, the raiders kind of hierarchy and That was powerful and the intimation to say that changing the game plan from from power rushing scheme something that Barrett was very good at passing fifty five or sixty times at the last minute can definitely overwhelm you changing a game plan on a Friday as something. That's virtually unheard of even in week two right so so that was definitely a big deal. something. That's often. Often forgotten in this wasn't included in the PODCAST. Is it bear? Robbins was actually really beat up. His knee wasn't in great shape, and I think that you know there's already some uncertainty of how am I going to play in the biggest game of my life? I'm not physically one hundred percent you know, and then there's there's the fact that that just as you alluded to. To that maybe he was misdiagnosed. You know he was. He was diagnosed after the super bowl was with something different with with with bipolar and end if he he talks about going in these manic episodes where he doesn't remember things in, he gets stressed out in those types of things can trigger it and the tough thing for me and I think for for people. People listening is you have to just absorb and understand that sometimes when we want specific answers, they're just not there. That is a working theory. Maybe that's what happened. Maybe it's a confluence of a number of different things, but the bottom line is that it's a combination of a mental health issue with substance abuse problem that kind of dovetails into itself and turned into A. Regrettable. Incident that as we heard as we hear the podcast right? Some some players can't forgive Barrett seventeen years later. Other players say Bill Bill. Callahan didn't help Barret Robbins and he screwed our entire team for the entire year. So there's a lot of working things I think that when you have a project like this, you WanNa, just present the information, and then let people absorb it, and then really try to analyze in 'n sync it all up because. The tough part about that period is. We don't know exactly what was in Barrett's mind because Barrett says there are times when he doesn't remember everything clearly, so you're doing. You're dealing at times with an. Able narrator and that makes it a difficult. Proposition so for all those reasons this confluence of events you know it ended up turning into what happened, which was all bad news at the Raiders Organization, and for, and for Robinson himself and feels like something that a lot of people particularly Al Davis at the time, just never really to get. They couldn't get over at forty eight to twenty one blowout. Jon Gruden on the other side. He'd been traded just the year prior first season with the bucks. You know. Effect. Do you think that bear robbins is absence really had on the Super Bowl game with all of the other factors that were involved with you know from Jon Gruden to the playbook change to everything else. That was happening around this one person. With. Robbins I think that's a great question and I. Think IT'S A. It's A. It's a piece of the puzzle, maybe a large piece. I don't know if it's the largest piece. Though because while the raiders were favored going into that game, changing the game plan late doesn't help the fact that in. We spoke to some Tampa Bay buccaneers players who said that they knew every fourth signal call. They could tell which play was coming right that also it's crazy. Yeah, that absolutely blows. My mind changed some language, or you know mess things up. With the fact that Jon Gruden was on the other side Line Jon Gruden was a guy that. that a former raiders, often blaming collins even said I'd stop a bullet for that guy that that they loved him Jon Gruden on the other side after that crazy trade in two thousand to two first rounders, second rounders and eight million bucks, the impossible dream of a train that Al Davis according to Amy Trask from the when it when I interviewed her about two years back, said he just kinda threw out a number. Thinking that would never possibly get taken, and then it happened. So I think it's all those things is why it hurt. AL, Davis so bad somebody WHO's not used to losing. I'm sure he was still bothered by losing super bowl to you, don't. Really. Getting beat by someone that he traded with his center wasn't available with a coach that was struggling to attach himself to the players, and the fact that the super bowls played in front of I'd nine figures worth of people right? And the raiders got their butts kicked from the outset in a game. That wasn't even as close as the final score. You know predicted so the add all those things that we're talking about all those things that you mentioned the the the that I mentioned. It's unfair to say that it's Barret Robbins fault. Did he help the situation help? No, but there were a lot of factors at play here and none of them can be more. All, right, let's take a quick break in here from our sponsor and when we come back. We're going to talk about the raiders upcoming season and what we expect to see in twenty twenty sustained wound. Right here on the takeaways edition of the Vegas Nation PODCASTS. Basically. Healthy Gut me a healthy. You Favor Apple CIDER. Vinegar shots bottled this feeling into the convenience of a to outshot better digestion, stronger, immune system and the lowering of blood. Sugar levels are just some of the benefits to shooting a daily favor shot. Their proprietary blends are raw and organic and mixed with other functional ingredients to create a better teasing experience. First Time shooters can go to drink a favor dot com. All right everybody. Welcome back to the takeaways edition at the Vegas Nation podcast I'm Heidi. Fang and I'm joined here with Scott Bear from NBC Sports Bay area, and we're talking all about the podcast series now airing with NBC Sports Bay area about called sports uncovered the mysterious disappearance Barret. Robbins. I have just a couple more things here. That I want to touch on with this. He says that he was suicidal. At the point of pointing the weekend and ranch teammate found him in the cab. He's crying. He said that he's contemplating just giving up on everything giving up on life. When you heard that I mean first of all. It's super like just chilling within itself, but do you feel like maybe by branch? Factually Finding Him Bay, he may have saved his life that night. Mean it's that's a great question possibly. He was already so. Calvin branch saw Barret Robbins at a bar in the first reason why he realized something was wrong is buried. He saw in a bar for the second straight day. Bear, it was in the same clothes right so that was like a red flag, and then he went out to go hail a taxicab Barret. Robbins was already in it I. Don't know where he was going at that point, but to get back to the team hotel. He tries to sneak him up into the team hotel only to get him in his room. Let him compose himself. Get Him to a meeting, and hopefully things can iron out. For him, and then the linebackers coach comes on the like the elevator and doctors come get. Involved in this thing. It was a period where he was on suicide. Watch and there's a crazy. In A. Statement or story or anecdote? I guess included from a from Bruce Allen former raiders. Who said that when he talked to bear it, there didn't know whether the game had been played or not. I thought that he that it hadn't been. He asked if they had one and that if he was going to get on a plane to go to the pro bowl, right like that is the type of state of mind that he was. And you know bear does talk at times when when he gets these manic episodes, he just kind of like walks around and can't really. Focus on anything. That's how he got in trouble in his pass so. Possibly I would say that that. Maybe that was something to get in back around his teammates and get him background doctors who could give him some type of you know proper help could have definitely helped him. That's again one of these. You know like one of these mysteries that even seventeen years later, maybe an seventeen more years later. Maybe we're not gonNA have all of the exact answers you know from a story that again is is both intriguing and tragic, and you know again hopefully. Is a sign that if you look back seventeen years at the NFL's focus on mental health, then and compare it to me where it is now, and hopefully it will be in the future released, so we can see. You know strides being taken. They've definitely done a lot. I think in the past couple of decades since the Super Bowl happened to really research everything from CD, to depression to young even substance abuse with the players, so yeah from what we saw back two thousand and two, two, thousand three, when all this happened it. Definitely I think come leaps and bounds, speaking of things coming leaps and bounds I wanted to get your. Take a just because you. You cover the raiders for so many years. How much they have improved through the draft through the off season. The linebacker core particularly I'm interested in your take on because you see guy. Cory Littleton at you have to kind of be thinking that Jon Gruden is just chomping at the bit to see this guy on the field What do you make of just what you see at a this year's roster so far? I I. Don't want to Gush. But I really really liked what they've done. And I think because Kansas City, and a certain quarterback who signed a half billion dollar contracts. And is going nowhere. That part of the equation is not just have the raiders improved. It's a Are they a better match up against the chiefs right will. They got a lot faster with rugs and. Lynn boded and they got a lot faster on defense with Cory Littleton and When I look at their defensive especially in that linebacker core I think hey, raiders welcome to the modern era. You know that's no longer a two hundred and fifty five pound dude with a neck, raw plan Mike Linebacker, only going forward that. How many times are you? Are? You GonNa? Let Travis Kelsey. Beat you before you decide to defend this guy. Right at some point that's got to happen at some point you physical. Long cornerbacks like Damon. Are Net and Trayvon Mullen who can slow the fast little guys down at the point of attack, and the raiders threes why I like it is it's. Not Fun, but it's interesting because you know the draft analyst who do draft profiles those of us who study mock drafts and do the unfortunately is that we look at it. A damaged our nets reach in the raiders are like we don't care because he fits our system. He does what we need him to do. Well, right, it doesn't matter if you pick a guy. In Nineteen Trayvon Molin came in at forty or you know where you signed somebody in free agency. They got guys that fit guys that fit their attitude and I think that while it was so ugly. When they had to tear this thing down and Trade Khalil Mack Right and that twenty eighteen season was you were there, right? It was an absolute slog, but if you look at it now, it was a necessary evil to get all the draft capital and the. Salary cap freedom to do what was required to get to this point. So now they're here, right. They're starting to stack draft classes the next. The most important part is going out that shiny new death star just off of of of the Las Vegas Strip in Star and start winning football game seven. I think we'll be an extreme disappointment next season and I think raiders fans should feel that way. They should think we are a playoff team. And I think the raiders internally in that beautiful place out of Henderson. The same way and it's time they haven't. They give themselves enough time to stack up talent. Maybe as long as I've been talking right now seems like years and nonetheless. I think they finally got the pieces to the puzzle, offense and defense to match up with the chiefs dementia better with the AFC and at minimum Go Out and get one of those cards. Lots awesome. Thank you so much for the time. Scott I really appreciate it. I know you've got a really busy day. You've got things to run off to. Remind everybody to check out this podcast series. That is on NBC. Sports Bay area. Sports uncovered the mysterious disappearance of Barret Robbins and Scott. Let the fans now out here where they can find if they'd like to catch up with you on social media. Social media that you can imagine I've been at B.. A. I! R. NBC S. Hopefully I click follow and hopefully. Give me some halfway decent. Guest. Well thank you so much where I'm. It's great to catch up with you. Absolutely, it's been way too long best to you and the family hides. Thank you same to you. That'll do it for us here today. I'd like to thank Scott Bear for coming on the show as he did. Throw out there. 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RTCD #190: Matt Miller
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So anyway, a lot going on including we've got Matt Miller from Bleacher report on today's show just like last week with Kyle crabs. I'm really into getting differing opinions. I'm really into finding out where people differ in terms of players. They really like players. They don't. So. Without further ado. Let's talk to Matt after I make sure you guys all know, my front page story dot com is the greatest mother's day gift in the galaxy. Just trust me look at any of the stories at my front page story dot com picture, how happy your mom would be when you give one of those. Anyway, it's Matt Miller time. He is one of the best in the business. I told him about I told you guys about him earlier in the show. He's got a great Twitter handle, by the way at NFL draft scout he's Matt Miller from Bleacher report who's all over the draft and has been met. I remember when you were like a newbie like I remember when you were just starting out. Now, you're like well like a ten year veteran. Close I've been a bleach per for eight years. So, but yeah, other doing this update myself I've been doing this for a long time. So if you remember my start, though, you've been doing this a long time too. So we're getting old together. Yeah. It was I absolutely. Remember, you know, like a lot of other things, I didn't know who you were at first and people didn't know who I was at first, and then sorta follow your work, and you're killing it over there at Bleacher report highly encouraged people to check out his Twitter handle at NFL draft scout what else you got going? What's what's miked up? Ten thirteen. Yes. So it all this free time that I have decided to start a weekly radio show in my little hometown of Joplin, Missouri. Just like, you know, I'm sure you understand this like when you when you live and football all the time like you need an outlet for something else. So we decided one of my podcast co host, and I decided to start a radio show, and it gives us a chance to talk about like royals baseball. And you know, talk about March madness and NBA and other big hockey fans. We talk about NHL. So it's just like a little little hobby that you know, brings in some money each month. But it's fun to you know, also, I think it makes me a better podcast. So it makes it better writer to have to go through and plot out a radio show each week. So yeah, I mean, I'm writing a video for Bleacher report, we have the six football podcast three times a week for three or four. And now, I'm doing local radio too. So I'm gonna golden for punishment. Basically, you know, it's funny because even though. You know, it's still football. When I go on on WIP in Philly or do this keystone sports network thing in central Pennsylvania to Harrisburg Hershey area, where I live, which is a Penn State football thing that is sort of my reprieve a little bit because I grew up like a Penn State in eagles fan. So it's like with every passing year. It's kind of fun for me to talk about those two not that. I mean, everything I talk about everything football's fund, but I dunno especially when I'm talking about those because everybody around me is talking about those, and they all care about it so much it's kind of fun to get into that stuff. And right now, everybody's talking about the draft was being you know, just a couple of weeks away at this point. I did this last week Matt and wanted to do it again this week. What I always find most compelling this time of year. Our people's opinions that are different from the consensus because you get to the point where you see the same thirty five to forty names in the first round of every mock draft, see, you know, most of these mock draft is only three or four different people that two teams give to the guy gives to the team. It's like sometimes I feel like they just look at somebody else's mock draft or a couple of other mock drafts and just make up their own. They all give this guy this one this guy this one. So I really like because we know that the drafts not like that. I mean, I still remember one Terrel Edmonds went in the first round of the Steelers last year. You know, there's other guys that you think are going top ten I remember Cherie Floyd drop it. I just there's always interesting themed. And you realize how teams were higher or lower on some of these guys, or at least one team was on some of these guys and other teams. So I like when I like when analysts such as yourself really put a lot of time. Time into this. I like when you actually, you know, stick your neck out there and say, your some of the guys I have strong beliefs in that we're not we're not hearing about as much in this light. So I guess I'm a positive person. So let's start with the guys some of the guys that that you are much higher on than most Matt for whatever reason. Yeah. I'll do my best. Like, you said it does get to feel sometimes like there's a lot of group think with the NFL draft. And so I have established this habit of in. I it's hard for me because you're drafting, and I try not to read no Kuyper, Todd, mcshay or Daniel, Jeremiah or Bucky Brooks, I try to live my own little bubble which could be to do with like you're going to see other people's work. But like, I don't want their work subconsciously, you know, affecting mind. So I try to stay kind of isolated. But what I've been told by the lovely people on Twitter. I am real. Really really on Josh Jacobs running back. Bam I measured number eight overall my big board. And I think he is a plug and play three down just monster running back. He runs a power. He was a passion to heal the lower shoulder and just put guys in the dirt. But he catches the ball on. He's he's a smooth route runner and not just on doubles like he can actually run some routes for you motion them out. So he's in a nice blend of physical. But also, you know, has that agility and has the the the hands and route running understanding to be an impact on third down. So I know even tests superwealthy didn't run a great boarding, but you know, ten yards splits. Look good is is Jody's. Look good. And his tape is fantastic away one year player, really Ella. Bama. But I think that's more credit to how well Nick Sabin recruits that he's gonna always have, you know, a couple of dudes down there who are really good running backs. They're gonna share the Loic. So unlike you know, a Derrick Henry or. Guys like that coming out. All damn Josh, Jake was really doesn't have a lot of wear and tear. You know, he's still pretty fresh legs. You did have a lot of injuries did in a hamstring pop up in the draft process. But he's someone that I think is total package and is exactly what the NFL once that are running back position. Now, totally agree about, you know, the usage that's only a positive in my mind and in terms of total package, I've seen some just Twitter. Clips I go back and study some of the old lion. I don't go back and like study a running back, but just seeing some of the clips on Twitter of Josh shakeups blocking. I can just tell you. I love that dude. You know, what I mean just seeing him doing a couple of guys and knock them out. I mean that is you wanna talk about a way to ingratiate yourself with teammates to that's a really good sign for a young running back like that. Who else you got that you that you've got ranked higher than other people based on what the Twitter, folks. L you. Yeah. So wide receiver. I think everyone, but I would love would decay Metcalf. You know, the measurable are unreal. Four three three two hundred thirty pounds. He looks like a Greek God, I actually don't like came back. Now, I like his teammate AJ Brown. He's I was actually I was on a flight yesterday. And I was like I'm gonna use this three hours, and we'll watch them more dig Metcalf made them missing something know wanting to go back and watch it again, and I couldn't focus on him because I was watching a AJ brand so much. He's just such a good route runner and he catches the ball. So well, and I like in this era of you know, we have sparked scores and all the metrics and Olympics like sometimes it just comes down to can you run good routes and get open. And can you actually catch the ball? It doesn't matter. How big you are and with AJ like he's a good size guy. Six foot tall two hundred twenty five pounds. He played in he played anywhere that almost needed him to play and was just incredibly dependable. And reliable. So the word safe is kind of a dirty word with draft prospects because say given boring or not very good. But I think AJ brand is the safest receiver in this class. He's not gonna have the upside at UK Metcalf. He's not he's he is fast. But he's not that fast. He's not you'll freakishly big and strong. But he's just really really consistent. And I I think guys like that, you know, obviously, scheme matters a lot wide receiver prospects. But if you get AJ Brown rice came more, you know, where you can run a lot of breaking riles slant routes comebacks, you could be I think it'd be a dynamic rookie receiver. You know, seventy catch guy thousand yards someone who steps right in and has a huge impact. And and he might not be the first receiver off devoting might not be the second. I think there's a chance you might not even be the third but on my board. He's the best one. Wow. I love it. And I love the simplistic approach to because the position is about getting opening catching the ball. All and I think sometimes people make it a little bit more than that anybody else on the positive side of the ledger. I also really liked this corner from Clemson Trayvon Molen. He's kind of like the my guy all year. I mean, even early go back to September washing. Clemson the first couple of weeks. It's like man I really liked Trayvon Molin Eddie Yuliana Goodyear, but he didn't have a dominant statistical season. So I think there's a lot of man. This guy's not that good. But I think some of that too. Is you know, when you're like, if you work in the media, you don't get you know, that weekly film dump the teams gets you're you're waiting until December January February to get game film and it's hard to watch corners on TV. So I think some people will maybe a little late to the party on Trayvon moment. But if you watched him in a national championship game, he took over you know, he had a sack coming off a corner blitz. He had an interception. That's the type of player that I saw all year long. Just physical any six one two hundred pounds in a four four six. He did have good production. He also really wasn't challenged all that much. So the fact that he. Was the defensive MVP that game he had six tackles as well. Like, that's the type of player that I really really liked him. And he's he's toll fast. He can play man coverage play zone coverage. So any you that doesn't have a marquee corner. You know, there's not even really a consensus number one guy might be, greedy Williams. Some folks like Byron Murphy, I think Trayvon Molin deserves to be right there in the mix of those players to anybody else on that that you're a lot higher on the most other folks map before we switch over to guys that you're a little more concerned about I think that's it on the guys I'm really high. But that's the easy thing. Right. It's to pick guys that you're on and excuse me. It's easier to pick the guys at your level on. I think you know, this year I have around fifteen or sixteen players that actually got I sent rates. So it's a great draft at the top. But I get a lot more concerned. Once you get out like Nick Bosa, Quinton Williams and Oliver kinda. Range is when I start to get a little antsy about this wraps. Let's get let's get to the other side of it. And some of the guys that you're a little antsy about. Yeah. I think to start off I'll say that. I feel like I'm a harsher greater at quarterback because I've been burned in the past by being too easy. I'm not very high on doing Haskins from Ohio states. Now, I say that knowing full well, he could be a top six picking this draft. And if the giants wrapped him at six I'll probably applaud that selection because they need to go out and get a quarterback if he ends up owing to fifteen to Washington, it's a really good pick as well. You gotta bet on the upset of guy who was a one year starter. But I see enough concerns and his game that I think every year this happens where if there's not, you know, a great quarterback class than media. And I'm responsible for this as well as anybody and teams will create hype for players, and I think that happened a little bit with Dwayne asking who as a one you start or has some promise like there's some things to like there. But there's some concerns as well. Especially you know, he gets drafted by a team that was sort of all deep down the field, actually, something he didn't do a whole lot of it Ohio State. So it's not necessarily. You know, where we can sit back and and show you, you know, forty plays saying, okay Ross, here's why he can't do it. It's more like I've not seen him. Do this a lot? Now, if you want to run like an old school west coast offense, or you know, something like what the Rams are doing with a ton of underneath concepts. That's where he's gonna pick you apart. And he's very very good at the end of Neath game. But you know, he's not very mobile in the pocket at all. And he's not a gown thrower. And those those two things usually it's one or the other right? Usually got the big army throw on platform from the pocket and just launch it downfield or you're a guy who's gonna move around and make plays. He doesn't really do either. So you almost get like a a Jared Goff feel from him where he doesn't go to a team that will take advantage of what he does. Well, then he's gonna be in trouble. And that sounds so simple. But we've seen a happen. So many times where a guy gets drafted. And and the team, you know, whether you change coaches or the coaching staff, maybe it wasn't even all in on the player, and they're not they're not running the same. Concepts that are best for that quarterback so Haskins you don't have to break. Kyla Murray who has the arm and athletics and something really do anything. You want him to do the biggest concern height would happens? It's like gosh. I really wish that we'd seen him. Make some old pick throws. Well, that's interesting because I've been wondering why these reports have him may be in the fourth quarterback taken in slipping kinda wondering where that was coming from. So it's good to hear somebody actually verbalize that. And what those concerns are what about anybody else that that you're antsy about for one reason or another. Yeah. Man. There's a lot of them. You know, I look at resigned Gary from Michigan. Who again, this guy could be a top five pick. Like, it would not be surprised that Tampa five, you know, just say all right? This guy. I worry so much about, you know, a trace only type prospect, and I'll say his traits are great. He was he is an elite athlete who I believe was misused summit Michigan. But you still want at some point a who's going to be a top ten pick to have been the best player on his defense. And he wasn't by Devin Bush was or chase win of each was. We're we're Sean at Gerry, you know, he was a five star player coming out of New Jersey in high school. And sometimes you know, that five star label gets attached to you as a player, and you're not challenged the whole lot and with him. It's like all right man show me the game. Well, I'm supposed to believe that you are a top five pick or a top player in this class. And you're really gonna find it. Now there are some flashes. There are some moments where the do comes off the ball and he's explosive and he uses. The long arm well to keep blockers office frame. And he seemed bend around the edge a lot of games where he doesn't do anything. All especially some of the bigger games. It gets better teams. You know, he didn't show out. So I I worry about him while at the same time recognizing, you know, and it's kind of like the D came back like this guy has phenomenal traits. And there's a chance that that is going to click and he's gonna blow up because you can see it. You know, you see the speed strength. The the agility with Reshad, Gary, but it didn't lead to production. So that's always a bit of a concern me. Yeah. You know, what you're preaching to the choir here. Matt I am a production. Over traits guy. I always have been sometimes those traits guys figured out in the being really good players. But if I had to invest my money and put my career on putting up put my money in my career on on the guys that have shown that they can produce on the football field. Gimme gimme one more guy that you are. You know, a little bit nervous about. Yeah. What's let's go. You ruse, man. Let's go line Andrei Dillard's from Washington state is getting so much hype right now, maybe, you know, maybe even as a top fifteen thick, and I can kind of understand why he's a very good athlete. He moves little the pass protection. But if you go watch his rundowns, you're gonna be terrified because there's just not any power of his game. And it I I even the first couple of games. I watched it was like, oh, well, you know, he plays for Mike Leach. You know, what do you expect him to do in the run game? But it's not just you know, that he hasn't been coach in that area. It's really a lack of power. So I look at Andre Dillard as more of a project that I did, you know when we were talking about him in December getting James to watch him at the senior bowl and watch the combine they get caught up on on all his tape throughout the last couple of months. I I have some pretty big reservations about him. And and to the point that I personally don't think he should be a first round pick. But but he will be you know, it'd be like Colton mill. Oh our last year coming out of UCLA but enough teams need offense attack. Oh, there's not one you're going to draft somebody that you believe that you can develop instead of like getting like don't reisner Kansas state who you know, is not this body beautiful prospect. He's just a really good player teams for whatever reason convinced themselves that you gotta go with the prospect over the player. And and I think that happens it all fits tackle. Maybe as much as it does anywhere. But quarterback where you you almost have to have an imagination when you're watching these guys on film to say. All right. Well, we just changed this this this it's like a fixer upper type house, you know, you you look at well, this is in a good neighborhood. So we just rip all the floors out and paint the walls. Maybe it'll be a decent house like to me. That's that's Andrei Dillard, it's like, man. He he is a good athlete and any moves on past pro. Which is I know where the games go on. But you can still gotta run the ball. And he just scares me when it comes to those first and second downplays ma-. I got an Email question for you. You actually, and it comes to us from Ed lane who took advantage of the code football over at one eight hundred flowers dot com. And I want to ask it to you. Because it's a good one that I was wondering to whatever happened to Miami defensive tackle, Gerald Willis and West Virginia offensive tackle Yanni could juiced they seem to be getting a lot of buzz late in the season. And they have not popped up much on anybody's radar since the draft process has gotten underway. Could they be the kind of players who mysteriously aren't drafted until day three because of the issues teams know about injuries personality character cetera that may not have gotten much public attention. I didn't watch Yanni that much. But I did do I broadcast the Miami Virginia Tech game late. Nieto's pretty impressed by will. But I don't see him and any of like the top ten tackle rankings anywhere. So what do you what do you know, if anything mad about those two players? Yeah. I think we're Willis some of it is that he's getting caught in really good defensive tackle class. So you he's probably not atop independent tackle the he still be around three to four type player. I would think he's he's good. He had a hand injury that that cost him the ball game. And and you know, affected the process a little bit for him. But you know, he definitely flashes. A has really really good second effort. I think pad height is a big issue for him. Also, you know, he was a Florida guy who left Florida which Miami. So I think there's some questions about the background for him. Not like, you know, there's not like a rush record or any videos like Jeffrey Simmons type thing. It's more about like maturity consistency is a player yet. Naked Justice really interesting because I actually still like him. He sat out the ball game. You know? So you can focus on the traps, which I applaud like I get it. You know, you gotta you gotta chance to go back yourself. Money. You don't wanna get hurt? The problem is he actually got hurt in the process you had a hip injury. So I think that is pushing him down a little bit. I I liked him. We were just talking about Andre Dillard, I think I like to just more because he actually has some power. He is really inconsistent at times, and they both suggest and Dillard like benefit from some of the wide splits that they have is often sublime in those schemes, but I think he is more likely to be an impact in rush downs than some of the other offensive tackles that we've kind of seen get hyped up on this class. So those are really your question. I think just be an early round three player depending on how teams view the injury he had in the draft process, and unless they met just quickly because I know it was recently you reported something with Josh Rosen reporting for workouts yesterday with the Zona cardinals, which seems a little bit awkward criminal from wrong met. But it was it was you that reported something regarding the trade interest that the cardinals have gotten to this point. Correct. Yeah. That was I believe it was last week my days running together now. But I think told by a couple of sources around the league that they they'd had two offers for him. But they're not good offers. You know, they're trying to get a first round pick. And it it seems like teams right now are trying to stay in that late second early third range as far as compensation, so I think there's a little bit a little bit of a gap between reality and what the cardinals want. So it's gonna be real interesting. I was surprised he showed up. I think rosenstone a good job. Maybe discrediting some of the myths about what he's like as a locker room guy. You know, you show up for rotea as when they're gonna get traded. I I think that says a lot about you. Matt always appreciate the time. Terrific stuff. I knew it would be highly encouraged people to check you out on Twitter at NFL draft scout as well as check out your outstanding podcast stick to football. Which is a great name for podcast, by the way. Matt, thanks so much. Appreciate you have a great day. Hope you guys enjoyed that conversation with Matt as much as I did. I've got good news and bad news. Okay. The bad news is college basketball's over Virginia. One in overtime last night. Yes, I'm tired because I stayed up until midnight watching it. The good news is there are still other sporting events that you can bet on at bed online dot AG using the promo code podcast one. So you get that fifty percent. Welcome bonus. 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"WHO everybody how you doing! This is Bill Williamson this black Friday. This is our podcast. It is Tuesday the sixteenth of June already, holy smokes like I said. Since about the nineteenth of March I don't know fricken date. Is I really don't? Care Let's get to September thirteenth. You know what's that date? It's the real deal and I. Think we're going to get there I. Think we're GonNa get there. You know the. NFL PA had a meeting with players and agents. Yesterday talk about there's going to be increased. Testing for the Corona Virus Gerona viruses and over yet. You know, and still got to be village in on it and You know there's going to be three times a week or so players. They know there's going to be some players they get. The report always cowboys in Texans haven't now von Miller von Miller had it. Brian in the rams had it. Quinton polling news cut by the raiders. He thought he had it some. It's GonNa. Come Up. You know two million Americans is going to be some football players, but I think they're gonNA get through this and they're gonNA play and training camps, going to start around the twenty eighth and Jenkins GonNa. BE IN LAS. Vegas in. Henderson were Jon. GRUDEN is going to open up. The beautiful facility next we can get to work. But. It's going to be pretty right because they're to be kind of on. Vacation is really GONNA be. After next week, so there's going to be. Players on vacation. So they go, but we do have a lot to talk about lots of notes. That's the stuff that I really enjoy. During the season will be able to do this every day, or at least you know every day during the week so, but you know. Let's have some fun Enjoy it. It's great site. I love being part of it. Things, listen thanks for reading. Talking about player workouts players. The raiders have about thirty to thirty five players. Working out in the Vegas Sun. Everyday. I guess there's some fans that come out and check them out and they try to get their work done in the in the morning they tried to social distance. And then they the fans a little of too unique year you know what's happening in thirty two cities but this is good for the raiders it. It's not the same as being with the coaches and being in a program, but these guys are pros. There know what they're doing and they're. They're getting some nice work. So you gotta you gotTa really. Appreciate the key? Is Health everybody staying healthy course? and. We'll talk about Derek Carr. Why don't we? And I think every site talks about their quarterbacks. Every year in. Every day. And you know how I feel about Derek Carr. Last year! I didn't necessarily think he was the problem. I don't know if he's necessarily the. Savior either, but they raiders believe in him. They tried to get better him, and let's see you know I mean. The guy is one before he's produced before, so let's see you can do it again. I'm not a I'm not a guy that thinks Derek. Carr is terrible I'm not. I did a story yesterday that this morning actually offer Chris Simms. A pro football talk is doing forty top quarterbacks. He had Derek Carr. I did mine I had him at seventeen. Guys that you could possibly pull Kohl's AD. Be Want Kyle Murray but I think our Murray is going to be better than Derek Carr this year. Ryan Tannehill. What Ryan Tannehill showed us the last time we've seen him on. The field is that he's better than their car. Jimmy Garoppolo Jimmy Garoppolo. I'm not GonNa I. Think he's better than guard. He. His winning percentage is much bigger. and. Is he perfect. No, but I think he's better than car right now. That doesn't mean that he's going to be better than the next year. Jared Goff. Same sort of thing is Jimmy G.. So, you can poke holes in that view, aunt That's fine I. don't care. I'm not one of those guys that get upset. If somebody doesn't agree with my opinion, that's okay. We all have them. and. You know. I took over kirk cousins. I've talked a couple people in the league, and you know what you might wanna put cousins over carbon. Mikey Noah I'm I'm just gonNA stick over cousins. So seventeen. What is that that's average. That's what he is. You look at these DADS. In the last six twenty-nine quarterbacks have at least forty start. The Raiders of averaged twenty point three points a game in those start. It's the third lowest average in the NFL in that timespan over quarterbacks. Over those twenty nine quarterbacks. The average lesson twenty point three last year, the average nineteen point five they moved the ball can get in the end zone a hopefully that changes this year. It's why they added. Rogues and you know and. Edwards in you know they got to score. touchdowns. Also Five crew offices the second most of any quarterback in their first six seasons. Ironically his brother David has the most at fifty six. So those are a couple of. Not So. Exciting stats about a quarterback. That's why some people are down on their car and you can say Oh, what's? More than Abe more more than one guy on the offense certainly certainly. But the quarterback is the leader of the offense. is on him to score points, win games. And the raiders are getting better around him, and they've spent a lot of money. They have the second most money. A salary cap money dedicated in the NFL on offense. They half to get this going, or we're going to be annoyed every offseason, but or they raiders going to. Are The raiders going to. Replace Derek Carr. Unless until he proves yet, you don't need a replacement. There's GonNa. Be those rumors. But it's all up to him and I think he can do it. I got some just Jake Jacobs numbers to I. WanNa. Get into. But feel that we need to address the last Wednesday morning. Apparently reportedly the house of bones grandmother. was raided by Marshall's DA officers. Lynn Boden was there. He is reportedly handcuffed. Reportedly that the reason why they came there because police it, they bought under covered. Over cover police of Baden drugs. They're reportedly. reportedly there were guns there. But nobody was arrested. So. I would think he's in the clear as now. And I don't really have anything to add there. I wasn't there I wasn't the person doing the reporting. That's why you said reportedly twelve times or so because I wasn't there. So. I've tops. Some people with the raiders. Nervous about you don't want. Any player handcuffed anytime, but I don't think they're frightened. This things become something out of this, but you know hey. It was what he was. He was there during this rate. He didn't get arrested so guy give him. The benefit of the doubt, and and you know just hope he gets to LAS. Vegas and becomes a you know a great Info player you know, and that's what you hope every player, right? talking about Josh Jacobs. He Dude. Makes People Miss. You know I'm not the biggest pro football focus guy sometimes I am. In their more tangible. Stats I am in some of their more murky or subjective I I'm not but like running backs. I can dig it because you know they're. They're metrics are. The amount of missed tackles in broken tackles and stuff, and that's real live NFL stuff. You know and if you look at his more basic stats. You can tell that those more next level stats helped him succeed, so we're running back I. You know I'm into it. He was eighth in the NFL. Eleven hundred fifty rushing yards. which is impressive because? He, only he mystery regain. His eight point five per game yard average. Was the high third highest in the NFL. Good right. I think this guy stays healthy. I think he can get. He'll here two hundred forty two carries. I think that's average eighteen point seven. So. He plays more games. He's going to get into right. In that three hundred range Derrick Henry, who led the NFL in rushing yardage last year three hundred to Carey's. Zico Elliott. Wishing him the best in his fight coronavirus, a, he had the second most yardage, and he had three hundred and one carries, so we get Jacobs into that three hundred carrier range. I think he'd go in the rushing title. May think you win multiple rushing title. Win Rushing title this year. Kiss that guy to stay healthy. That's why you have the other running backs its way of Booker. That's way. You ever shirt. You know keep those guys healthy. Speaking of Health Adam Schefter wrote something I think yesterday. That rugs fine. He had a little. You know upper wig injury. Dad Said told Alabama newspaper that happened when he was helping somebody move. he be fine for camp, so that really was the update that we were expecting. So good news there. Max. Crosby was on a bleacher report podcast last week. And, he said Yeah I should have sat patrick Mahomes last year. I was close. Do it I'm GonNa. Do it this year. And I saw one site was a oh. What a mistake! He shouldn't have done that B., s. y.. Y. Matched, crosby gets paid to pursue the quarterback. Patrick Mahomes gets paid to get the ball out before he gets sacked. I don't think Patrick Mahomes he of his twenty four years old age, and the Super, Bowl, MVP a super bowl ring and a super bowl MVP in two years starter is really worried about Max crosby saying he's GonNa to sack him. If mahomes heritage maybe has he'd be a garlic coup. Come get it. Get me. That's what you're supposed to do. I don't think it's GONNA be offended I. Don't think that Patrick mahomes spending. You know staying up late at night thinking about that. He's just thinking about being good, so hey, these guys are gonNA be rivals for a long time. A long time. I mean alone time. Maybe in the next decade. It's GonNa. Be Fun and yeah. Janssen's are. GonNa sack mahomes. Probably Multiple Times. And it's going to be fun. Last week Jerry Judy. Put out a video. Of his footwork, and that's what he's famous for running feet work and it was sublime. It was a beautiful display. Of Receiver Footwork. And I saw some people well respected. NFL people and I'm not bagging on them. But. They're like oh well. One was like well. Rugs over Judy is going to be questioned for a long time. And up. Every team that passed up on Judy made a huge mistake. I think judy is going to be good. But that video doesn't mean that Judy. The raiders should took Judy. We'll see time will tell. The you know the rare do have pressure on themselves. And I said this on draft night. A lot of people thought Judy rammer safer pick, but they thought rugs was the best pick for their system, so they took him so I appreciate that you do what you WanNa do. It's your offense cure choice. Now he has, you have to be proved right, but then the Judy Goto division rival. the pressures on a little bit. If Judy is better than rogue. One a couple of years. John Gruden, going to be questioned about that, and so is my. But just because that video and is as cool as it was. That doesn't mean that rogue's was the bad pick I i. don't get it. Works could put out a video right now. That plays in forty seven speed this blowing by DB's. He can do that NBA. GO CRAP! Progress wished five should've got rug over Judy. Let's get to the field. Let's get these guys in football uniforms. Let them across NFL defensive backs. And let's see what happens. The raiders have the second most ESPN to study second. Most returning snaps on offense in the NFL. Meaning players who got steps in to nineteen, the raise the second most, so that's another indication a hey. No more excuses you. You got continuity. You added. Any caught nude. Let's see what happens. He's this is the time this is John goons their year. This Derek, Carr seventh year you know the offense is intact. Josh Jacobs is one of the best running backs in the league. They added the receiver in no more excuses. It's time to showcase it. And I think that's fair. another pro football focus had a had rugs projected for hundred seven, hundred seven. Seven. Oh, two hundred two yards get excited sometimes. Receiving yards this year and it's a project is the most. Of any rookie receiver. NAPLETON OF NFL networks has. Rugs, the most, he's a rookie. He's most excited to see regardless of position, so there's a lot of hope for Henry rumps. There's a lot of excitement. we know we get used to the raiders site in a lot of players, if as many. Free agents emily. the League can have quiet embargo and signings right now because of what's going on. I don't really understand it because you know during the early days of Corona. We had our heavy frenzy, but These signs right now. The pro. Bowl is coming to vegas next year. the end of this season. I think. What that shows you is. That Vegas going to be a showcase for the NFL. Draft is supposed to be here. It's coming back and twenty twenty two. We're going to have super bowls. Vegas is going to be a prime time. L. Nfl market, and the raiders are going to benefit from him, and it's going to be a good thing and I've said that all along. No, it sucks to see him. Leave Oakland, but there's a lot of good things coming. They're moving in that beautiful facility. Next week I was at the Alameda physicality for years. It's okay. It Ain't beautiful. This thing's going to be beautiful. Close out today's show and I'm sure happy with me. You know I just go. Man I just gardens talk. I just talk at somebody. Asked me as we do have a few drinks before you go. No doubt I'm just not. I'm just goofy guy. Passionate about talking Raider football though. The athletic has story in Johnson. You know, and he said you know. He obviously had the face. Reps you ask you in. The report was that he had back surgery this off season. You know, let's not forget. About is e Johnson I. Have with story coming out in the morning. If he's good, and he stays healthy and they're very excited about him last year before he got hurt very excited about him. If he's good and healthy. They. They. Really good defensive a cornerback room. You know could remember they drafted. Trayvon Molin in the second round last year Johnson out of Houston in the forefront, and then our net from Ohio state in the first and. Robertson Mike Guy from Louisiana Tech in the fourth. Maybe they took two cornerbacks because they're worried about Johnson's health, sometimes when guys get hurt and they can't say hopefully, that's the thing, but if he can stay healthy, and he becomes good player bears. You'RE GONNA be Pretty Dang good at cornerback for a long time. So there's some possibilities there there really is. We're talking to Matt Williams a couple of weeks ago. There isn't having holds. They have more questions than holes, but if these guys answered the Bell Question Wise. Here going to be good. Right now. Good and stay good. So. Hey, you guys did good hope. You had fun. We'll be back next week. This is Bill Williamson. Sylvan by pride, you guys take care. Be Save have fun. Talk to you soon.
Game Recap: Raiders win 24-16 over the Broncos
"In the most loyal fans in the world and I know it hurts that we might not be the Oakland raiders forever but we are still raider nation. I think it's going to be a uh hey he's new England's problem now good luck with that which I thought was very interesting to is kind of a parting shot against Tony Brown a little bit but then the with the black hole afterwards this was kind of one of those bitter sweet wins I think for Oakland fans perhaps because it is the last Monday night football game taking concerned get over it man it's over do you feel like this team and their effort that they afford tonight was just about eliminating any further talk of at the ringcentral Coliseum where the raiders brought home a huge win Gruden scoring his hundredth win as a coach in the NFL and then goes and shakes hands here we go the season is off to a great start with the raiders locking up a win at home Monday night football taking the w over the Denver Broncos twenty four to six basically the entire game anytime a wide receiver especially would make a play but I mean you saw during waller making plays and fans were really really ended we've got a lot of those to get to but first let's introduce the crew here we have miles simmons and Adam Hill both of whom are in Oakland right now place in Oakland as long as everything goes smoothly here in Vegas Sofer's miles let's go to you and say what is it like out there what was the feeling like in Oakland with the follow all things silver and black were also on review journal Dot com slash podcast and anywhere else you find your shows on drop us a comment because we always love hearing from you that leg saying you know you know s a Antonio Brown so they were really I think it was probably Cathartic to get this win from a lot of standpoints right because you're saying I need is the last time that the raiders will open the season here in Oakland and also just given Adam we heard Jon Gruden say that he feels like someone is smashing his temple on the side of get over it as far as ABC the name Antonio Brown I mean I don't think that was a primary motivation for anybody but I think certainly there's a sense of relief that it's over that they don't have to answer questions visa just know that they have to move forward and I think there is a sense of relief about that I don't know how much it had to do with their performance or or anything that happened on the field but I think it definitely eighteen and we're going to break this all down on this biggest nation podcast don't forget to subscribe to it if you like what you're hearing Vegas Nation Dot Com get the Vegas nation it clearly was it was it was acquitted everyday you could set the frustration of not only grew talks but from mayock certainly from other players kind of wondering as much as they don't want this win bleep a bleep a I think it was really interesting hearing fans screen everything that happened with Antonio Brown over the course of the last week I think from team it was probably Cathartic also the fans it was probably really fun to see he's just a you know a sense of relief that the players could have now I thought it was interesting some of the other things that Greek's at one of the you know the end of that quote that you're referencing he basically said you know Jon Gruden says hey it's not we're not thinking about it but then you go to the players they start asking them it was a distraction obviously was a distraction radio expect grew to say it wasn't adults the hawks by thirty one to seventeen that was the final score and that one tonight the raiders allowed zero sacks last year a total of fifty two allowed by the team I mean miles who on the line do you credit for this all of them honestly and I think really we got to give Tom Cable a lot of credit to in pointed this out in his post game press conference that you had two guards who were not projected starters going into this season starting for the got a you know too many I mean there are certainly still gonNa visa but you know they could just move on it they don't have to wonder whether he's going to be out there a practice to wonder whether it's going to be a games they just know he's not going to going against a big Fan Fangio defense they didn't even really allow their car to be touched the entire game I that to me is probably the most surprising aspect be out there and start criticizing him there was definitely some success of you know what is going on with this guy so I just think good for the team before worded I think really good for the team that they were able of this game when you have somebody like Bradley Chubb on one side and von Miller on the other and they don't even get to sniff Derek Carr that's a great great job by the offense and so when you have Jordan Debbie at left guard and then Denzel Gu's coming off back surgery over on the right side to this is actually a pretty big deal I mean he did an incredible job they're scoring two touchdowns over one hundred all purpose yards from the line of scrimmage what do you think about his performance tonight how key was to get the way that the over to perform well and that they they didn't say after the game well how much of a distraction was that's audio is he would how much better would play they don't have to answer all those questions right now but hams out we saw the tyrel Williams factor we saw the Darren Waller factor but I think most of all we Kinda outta focus here on the rookie Josh Jacobs on the ground the and where their cars concerned on the night is that line was that two hundred and fifty nine total passing yards one touchdown he was twenty two twenty six on passing it's where this team I think very key and I think you know it was what he was able to showcase not just two yards stats but you know he was able to produce receiver which there were the question about I know miles both Kinda commented early the game was out there on a third-down play which I was interested to see how much they play on down especially third medium took out took your business and tonight being the first time that the raiders have one at home to open the season since two thousand and two when the club defeated the he likes using the fullback he likes bring in an extra offensive linemen and so when that happens yes you expect them to run the ball they did that getting that first third and short conversion then let's pick up I think it was against job and you know he was able to to get to them and pick up the right protection there so I think he did a lot of things well not just not just getting into the end zone and you gotta give a lot of credit I think Derek Carr for being able to connect with tyrod Williams on that pass because a lot of times you won't see that early on in the and another thing I noticed miles you pointed this out on twitter that they were bringing in Brandon Parker to convert on third down. What can you say about the usage Brandon Parker and HAL implement shows a lot of promise but let's get to the flip side of the ball here the defense collecting three sacks this was huge for a team the last year only well he was on these conversions yeah I mean I think when you look at what they're doing on third down it was really interesting early on I guess it was ninety twenty seventeen and the player that did it was Khalil Mack so this is a big kind a milestone for the raiders to be able to collect the second one actually went play action and then dirk a car was able to hit tyrone Williams with a big pass down the field so I thought it was really good guy who is so familiar with Paul Defense he is a guy that can really conduct that defense because of that and so when you have how much of a different look do they bring compared to what we saw last year miles I think it starts avant has birthed right like you haven't thirteen total sacks by the end of the season much less a game where they had multiple sacks the last time that they had done that was against the broncos these sex in this game and get off to that start bins a male while had two of them cling feral had the other What do you guys see about this defense down so when you get three sacks to open the season yeah that's definitely a step in the right direction especially when you you didn't really allow the Broncos in March so that to me was really emblematic of how this offense can start humming if it gets into the right situations also looking at Darren Waller I mean he five yard drive they had these third shorts right and so when you have those situations sure you wanna go a little bit heavy you know Jon Gruden is an old school guy continue to bring your big boy pants you're you're playing the Kansas City chiefs next week but this is at least a good start for the raiders defense and the other thing on that and season when guys not played in the preseason right and you also are dealing with a guy who's going to a new wide receiver somebody that they signed in the Austin I think to get comfortable offense they did you chunk place but especially in the first half I think the raiders dominated things there so you're obviously is here that was it gets Cleveland Week four t they got multiple sex just one time that was that's how pathetic their pass rush was so I thought that was impressive but I really would is the most targeted he definitely didn't miss a beat when it came to kind of filling in the shoes jared cook who is one of his favorite targets last year so I loved what I see from him he to play calling when you implement those heavy packages that you're not just limiting yourself to saying all right well just because they think we're going to run the ball were are going to run the ball Akaka comes back in two weeks event you know you're GonNa get full strength would give two accidents healthy in a few weeks after that so man I think not only calls for for Jacobs to run through the question marks about the cards particular coming into the season they now they're gonNA look to get those guys back the third law knowing that they've got guys like you know jalen sharp wasps goofed who thrived in that role in the past but he was out there and head of really based help on that you have the Singapore the quarterback of the defense that sets everybody else up to do well now the other thing that you have I think is guys getting a little bit older getting a little bit about this as well but after Gary colley got hurt they've really started targeting Trayvon Molin who came in for conflict and that's where a lot of those big plays came from so yes they were after how bad last year was they didn't they also have a game last year where they gave up less than two touchdowns so I mean there was a lot of things this year this game that take in was seeing him lay there motionless and then finally get put onto a stretcher this all happened in play where Royce Freeman breaks free down the sideline it's up to fifty dollars Adam you brought up Gary on Conley and his injury in this game what is scary moment justice any scampering off Jonathan Abram comes in for tackle as Conley still holding onto his Jersey and then Abram just slides right in took Conley's helmet was going into the red zone and make the Broncos have to kick a field goal that's which really WanNa make sure you're dealing if you're a defense you WANNA keep them the field goals and not the bargain in the secondary that helped the pass rush get home a couple of times they certainly have a roof new improved and that area but certainly I think the result comes up on the way off the field what kind of update do you have right now anything else that we know about Garin Conley this was one of the main questions that people are asking it's one of those things whenever you see that man you just it's horrifying moment where you hope that that player is in paralysed or has suffered very severe injury it sounded like from what I saw in the press conference with Jon Gruden that he's going to be okay that there's a lot of positive signs we saw him give the this episode of Vegas Nation will be right back SDN sports is the only sports betting APP you need the season sign up today and get a new site do he was just over there trying to make a play and you know those things happen in football sometimes so very unfortunate but pretty interesting that he didn't even know what had happened you don't like to see them start to give up close in the second half down the stretch the broncos are trying to make a comeback but I think you know there there is something to look at as part of the reason why is it encouraging played well but they're going to get reinforced it soon as well so I think there is a really good sense of optimism about how the off me so on Twitter Jack Black Zach is asking if we know of a timetable for his return and then he also asks like is there actually a serious injury he hopes not I mean I is there anything that we know about maybe when he might return miles no not quite yet in like Adams sang the biggest thing in how long do you might be out highly what was that what was that twitter users name yeah I want to know that you Jack Black Zach doesn't sound real you work never able to do last year that they were able to do as much as you know I don't think it was great performance by the defense there's a ton to build on up hearing about thirteen because that's the only number sexy got Last year also is good to see I think Cleveland furrow did into the backfield and really stop a drive that additions car was solid perfect solid had guys imposition new mink plays damn proud so that's just kind of positive remark but when you think sales beyond Jon Gruden saying that everything looks good the prognosis is really good didn't WanNa get into anything about potential return to the field the his concern was board that he's going to make okay I will just because he has a cool name I'm going to follow also so Mister em seven commented on the starting to see the byproduct that trade miles I don't know I think it's too soon to say I mean obviously when you get three first round picks you want them to be that Gruden had said was that we just know that all signs point that he's going to be okay so we will see light little get
Raiders to be featured on HBO's Hard Knocks
"Like i said to bring a right kind of people here we think that can build championship football team has the most loyal fans in the world and i know it hurts that we might not be the oakland raiders forever but we are still raider nation i think it's going to be thank you so much for listening captivate the audience and have a lot of attention on airtime you have regina avant his birth defect jon gruden meetings i think those we've got a lot to talk about today from obviously everybody knows by now the big news raiders to be featured on HBO's hard knocks throughout training camp and everything kind of comes to a halt ideally ideally you want to be quiet during this period you don't want to learn of any sort of officers activity everson feedback out there you can make sure to follow all of michael's well on review journal dot com for the raiders page here vegas nation NFL and we have their minicamp wrap up that was out in alameda so we will get to michael on all of that very shortly here you can find us online at review journal dot com slash pod squabble with somebody and those vying first spot on the fifty three man roster obviously gets cut down from the ninety man roster as the season progresses so michael how are you doing do well you're you're disturbing my slumber before training camp right you get those cast and subscribe to vegas nation on any platform you find your podcasts on drop us comment let us know what you think about the show we always love hearing from you so because once hard knocks gets going it's going to be one of those things where they're going to try to find all of the drama all the confrontations anybody that's NFL films is having a plan in terms of okay here are some obvious storylines for this year of the raiders obviously antonio brown diggers too hey everyone it's heidi thing here along with our readers beat writer michael belkin and it is time for another edition of vegas nation our podcast can be found on are at as well you can download the vegas nation app from the app store to follow all things silver and black and we are brought to you by s. t. n.'s sports mobile stations casino biggest storyline but HBO will follow well i know what they do a really good job of is terms of HBO and i mean more than seventeen hundred fifty hours of footage is a captured by cruise thirty person crew in napa and is to the start of the regular season so you know when you look at the standpoint of hard knocks what they looked to produce what do you think will be the precious few minutes right before everything get started but it'll be let's see maybe about thirty more days or so until then the open surprises i mean whatever captures whatever they capture they find interesting it could be an undrafted rookie it could be you know someone who can rap sake or someone who just has a great attitude about who suddenly becomes a coach's favorite thereby a viewer favorite whatever develops they are there to capture it arises well so reader open for nice quiet months ahead until they go back into the fold hard knocks training camp and sure they are we're going to be a really interesting but the raiders are NFL films HBO i'll do it again incredible job of just having those plans but then being ed good month and a half five or six weeks till things pick up in napa when the raiders players will next reconvene and so he's that create disturbances guys will train and then they'll get injured you know the NFL sometimes announced suspensions and obviously often field stuff lawyers that recovering have you seen max crosby spit rhymes on twitter i've seen a few clips of this and he's pretty amazing i have seen then while not all of it makes it to cut because the raiders do have some say in the raiders in the NFL in terms of what goes on what doesn't on air we are going to be able to have far more expansive view into things and while the part of me has reported thanks well ideally it's gonna be a lot of the behind the scenes footage that is just me really interesting in so as a reporter it's it's different win you blue command some attention not just for his bloodlines but the fact they just physical rodriguez no interest or idea on how to slow down at expected to be a napa for joint practices a couple of days in the raiders travel to canada for a preseason game in mid august against the packers i mean a we only have so much access to practice in obviously were not in the meeting rooms and we we see a small segment of what actually happens with a club we log series to get to know the raiders better and i think it will make our coverage better over the course of the season when all those cameras leave will have a better sense of who the people are coaches are the so i i there's a lot a lot here as it relates to the raiders having mentioned the fact that ronald ali former star of the netflix there's the NFL high three rookie first round fix you have max crosby there in the fourth round quinton bell seventy round is really appealing guy the raiders are going to have a hard time cutting what is tight end look like what is running back look like chris warren i'm sure he's going to the coverage you know the insight about what's happened to the civil team to come from my own coverage i think it's it's a great opportunity for fans and for people who aren't raiders fans enjoyed season goes on so you cannot make sure to check in on those as well on review journal dot com slash podcast but i think there was also news that there's a break dancing it's gonna be pretty incredible letting people just to see all that's happening with this team intriguing and in fact we're going to be covering everything really did to the raiders being on hard knocks here on the vegas nation podcast we're gonna be doing special podcast after each episode of hard knocks as the guests this week have kind of murmured that you know why didn't they wait until next year when the team was moving i don't know for me i think in some respects it's kind of better that they're doing it this year for two reasons possibly next year let's just say the raiders make the playoffs than they would become ineligible show last chance you is a rookie defensive tackle on this team is their cameras will be falling him again and so on these storylines go while the rams own would you agree i valid i think it helps build anticipation you see on television all it's happening with the raiders during they were is there is there is good in two thousand nineteen as they are interesting they're gonna win the super bowl they'll be a dynasty in terms of just how interesting adduce las vegas to this team all be some of these players may not be on the team when they come to vegas but i think it's a good way for them to get to know who is coming to town in the playoffs in the last two years and then they can't have been on the show in the past ten years so i think the raiders right now they fit that criteria but and no way if they make the playoffs eligible next year so that would be one reason that would scratch them out being on hard knocks but i think in some ways it's a good way to hard knocks because that is part of the eligibility requirements for how they determine which teams will be on the show is they can can't have new coach they can't have been who stood out for this team but as you assess things through what you've seen already in the off season workout program what do you think right now as i he's actually in las vegas mark davis was a few days ago when it's supposed to last weekend when he was notified that the raiders have been chosen to be on hard knocks roger goodell was in town in in vegas and they are at the stadium construction site coach michael that we might see there as well i mean these are the kind of thing interest me out the janitor gender breakdown says yes nice oh beautiful point of our nas let's get into a little bit about the team and what you saw during mini camp i know that we've talked about a couple of players this there might be a fighter too and trying to can't because he just so physical generally let me l. let let let me turn it down during even low speed type drills and just looking over the progress and it was mentioned to davis during that period of time that this is the year of raiders because you have a stronger attachment to some of the personalities so yeah i would buy that i was a believer that i visited that the the barsby dropped out of high school wreck group and so i'm again among the other storylines that no doubt hard knocks has to follow yeah i mean you know they tendered daryl wurley they added nickel corner lamarcus joyner they signed nevin lawson we get ready to head into training camp may be the biggest position that will have a ton of competition they're responsible with ross her that qualify cornerback is is a real competitive area you look at what the raiders have done this offseason raiders of being hard knocks one of these two years but i thought it was going to be next year i thought it was gonna be aligned with the franchises moved to las vegas just like we saw with the all the story lines and personalities that are here absolutely and especially with gruden topping ballista personalities there with the raiders a lot of people here in las vegas rams when they were transitioning from saint louis to l. a. do those two thousand and sixteen hard knots follow the rams around during their training camp and you have a great sense as to what this team is that is coming a sense of their journey you're probably more inclined to follow them at an debts it's throughout the building there is a lot of injury a lot a almost it's almost like the raiders were made for TV and so if they were any campaign so there in california so that was but i think that was the hope of many in the raiders organization including owner mark davis but to differentiate himself in practice and probably more importantly in games well i will the rounds and the raiders have a mix keyshawn nixon a undrafted rookie use peeling it just going to be interesting to see how all that works itself out and so rookie from wisconsin figures to provide some competition there over the course of training camp and so we will we will see exactly who wins these competitions snapper is all that sounds like injured apolo probably would be that guy we don't know the teams puncher is all it sounds johnny towns and probably will be that guy AJ cole it drafted two cornerbacks beginning with trayvon molin in the second round at clemson later isaiah johnson day three the they still have nick nelson news about that and can we expect to see that during training camp i was told that the NFL combine in early march and reported it than that what is really interesting it's the whole secondary to then you know i would say running back with what is that look like the back end of that depth charged who is a fourth round pick in two thousand eighteen it's conceivable he doesn't make this club so i think just how that works itself out this is something that jon gruden sean mcveigh both want to get done and there's a belief that it will get done it's not quite official yet but it's at all these various positions but i think that is no doubt one of the sources of injury a from a pure football stamp point in napa is just you know days before their respective preseason opener in oakland will be in napa training against each other for a couple of days join practices and it will just be tight end what does that look like a lot of new pieces air certainly the back on the depth chart some competition kinda go on and on even number two quarterback we don't even know who the teams is practices as the raiders did with the lions during training camp that was something that i know you asked jon gruden about at the start of minicamp but have you heard any news do you think right now we'll see the most people kind of chopped off as things start progressing it's hard to say i think you'll be you know you know if you could say that there's any players right now that are on some sort of bubble i mean obviously it's a huge rousers ninety guys right now you know where so to speak when you look at players and evaluating them and i guess how they're performing when it's not the seven on seven period periods so teams just intensity picks up i would say even better than the preseason game self that follows a couple of days later just because of the controlled setting it's kinda like lightning right now the most competition but when you start putting on pads and then you know hidden each other it becomes a completely different ballgame you know garin college looking to make a elite in his second true full season in the NFL typically his third year in the league so i that corner back spot been that raises the bar competition you have these practices as a way to kind of break up training camp is same guys every single day dr course others have a long way to go before he could project them to be actual subaru contenders as defense is young it's a lot to prove a but you can't dismiss the fact nelson again would be one i think if the raiders have to make a tough cut at running back tight end or wide receiver you know i think which one right now has stood out the most to you and why is a tough question the nine drafted rookies and that's something that we've talked about as well when it comes to determining positions on this team like i asked you oh who's gonna be the most competitive position you know does it look like attention in the air is such that it is really interesting in again a more competitive than a typical training camp practice you kind of take it easy on each other so to speak that you know it doesn't get too heated too often but when you have a new set of players arms of guys who if they waves there figures would be interests around the league in terms of claiming that player i think cornerback onto their fifty three man roster i think at running back the same thing could happen with chris warren if he doesn't make the team or does john washington would be of interest assign him to their fifty three man roster late in the season instead the raiders promoted him from the practice squad to block that move so there are some of these young guys oster if they show well this preseason if not the raiders than for someone else i gotta tell you when i'm out there watching you work michael i'm always impressed by i don't wanna call you a student of the game i n a means but i think like it's just the way that you analyze the way the u steady the players i it's like your your mind clicking on a different level and i always respect that about you so i have to ask you this out of the nine rookies they you have seen out there on the field elsewhere a tight end a paul butler doesn't make this roster i could see teen making a claim for him props to detroit lions who wanted like way back then that this is pretty much a done deal and every indication remains that is the case and so i would pay that the raiders and the rams a couple of a i think it's always tough and always will cushion it with pads are on or a guy can sometimes look incredible when there are no pets claimed off waivers that he won't be someone that the raiders will be able to add to their practice squad after you know before the season begins because another team will put in that claim and pick them up a bottle you know whether it be a fight that breaks out and van gruden they they want to see productive they don't want skirmishes they wanna avoid all of that but the third down pass rusher which raiders wanted all along last year before they traded khalil mack and bruce urban didn't wasn't the player that they hoped he'd be in onto your onto your field it's just natural where it just feels different there's a different buzz in the air the fans are more into it at a coaches in every this is that enough but he just he seems like the real deal and when you pair him with carl joseph who looks much stronger more are you know the nick nelson was kind of a bit player in a nickel role after leon hall went down last season so there are some guys who certainly figured to be on in NFL rod on injured reserve for the entire season last year with a knee injury but your defense haven't really seen him refugees always are obviously you haven't seen paul now keelan dos at a guy UC davis i'm gonna probably should've mentioned earlier he was their top undrafted rookie signing he's got a real chance to make this club and if he doesn't i would expect that he gets is this presence about him where it doesn't seem like the NFL game is too big for him granted it's early i can't i can't pads he hasn't been tackled qualified to be tackled here in alameda but you see how he is when the balls more in line with what his role could be so you might have josh morrow starting at one end spot and for all on the other and so i think his is on but then the transition to the NFL really hits when hitting starts in the gets more physical training camp and so everything should be cushion who bears fans really haven't seen in gains such as chris warren moon you lead the NFL preseason rushing last year but he was stashed on ultimately key play more a little bit more than forty defensive snaps per game that was worse case scenario
Virtual NFL Draft Raises Questions, Delays in the Offseason
"Hair we blew are just wanted to take a second to thank you for listening to this podcast. You know everything. Outside is pretty scary and uncertain. But we're committed to helping you get through your day by talking about the sports teams that you love most. If you're looking for more great podcast distract you check out blue pods dot com. Thanks for listening. Enjoy THE PODCAST. And stay safe. We are excited and excited to have a city that is cited by having us once. You're a raider. You always no matter what we are now. The Las Vegas Raiders. What's up everyone? Welcome to another episode of the Weakest Nation. Podcast brought to you by. Sdn Sports Mobile by station casinos and presented to you on the Blue Wire podcast network. This is where you get all your information on your raiders. We have your fast takes. And you're smart coverage subscriber. You're listening follow along social media at Vegas Nation. Download the VEGAS NATION APP as well as checking out Vegas Nation Dot com where you can find all of our articles information on on everything happening with your raiders and up until the NFL draft on April. Twenty th through the twenty fifth. We will be daily here on this podcast so check back every afternoon for new episodes and also since I'm talking about what we're doing here for the NFL draft we're GonNa be also doing a virtual draft show with everyone in their own locations as we found out yesterday with the NFL Memo that everything will be happening. Virtually on their in including with their GM's and their coaches and everybody at their personnel being required to work separately during the draft. So we're GONNA get a little bit more into that because I think a lot of people are so trying to imagine how this works one thing that we saw knee. Spn Today was in harbaugh talking. I'm sorry John Harbaugh from the Ravens talking about how sensitive team information is going to be more vulnerable. He thinks with everything happening online including play books going out including how the teams work out. Vinnie when you look over how this could pose a problem with everything happening over the Internet. I mean when you look at over I mean. Does John Harbaugh have a solid point here that this is going to be something that they have to address with their. It teams. I mean I'm sure At all times There's concern but I mean teams have been working on line and with computers all the time now. So you know the fact that maybe is because because people kind of heightened right now people are going to be zeroing in on this and potentially hackers dangerous people that are up to no good Honed in a little bit more on this navy that makes it Marvin issue but as far as I could tell. Everything is on computers nowadays. I mean I talked to players on Sunday night. They get you know they can. They can get game footage other next opponent Sunday night before they go home To spend them you know Monday their recovery day looking at their opponent and all of that is on their Microsoft's was service computers that they have. So you know yes. It's a concern but just you know. Microsoft is a is a partner with the NFL all with with the You know Computers and technology. I'm sure if they put their heads together they'll be able to figure out a way to tighten it up. Make sure security is not as much of a concern but it's always gonNA be a concern. No matter what yeah. I think it is going to be something that they do. Have to look at tightening up the ship though. Because if you think about the ability of people to Hack webcams and The playbook being online if somebody gets into your email finds out your password and download zero entire playbook for this season I mean it could pose a lot of different things and issues for different clubs. Miles what is your take on that well. I think if you're really concerned about the video conferencing software don't use zoom right like all of these things that we're hearing about mostly have to do with zoom in house. Zoom is not very secure in all these all that so. Use the stuff that you have used the technology that you are provided like Microsoft's have your team or excuse me. It team develop something that can make sure that you are actually secure and it's more of an intranet instead of an Internet right these things these these teams you know. Have plenty of money to spend on that. Each team has an analytics department. You know real big. It team because you got to think about over the course of the season. Aren't you've sixteen games? Ten of those are you know including preseason our away games and then if you're a playoff team you got even more so throughout the course of the year especially if you go on an international trip there are all these different technological. Needs that the coaching staff has that the players have the medical staff has and those those guys that those men women who you know take care of all of those technological needs. They go all across the country that go to international sites. You know if it's London if it's wherever and they have to make sure that all these things are set up properly so from that standpoint when you think about how you know teams have to go from their headquarters to different locations for training camp sometimes going to London. There's sometimes staying week in a different location. Because they're playing to away games on the East Coast and their West Coast team vicious figure out how to do this and make it secure. I think that there must be a way to figure out how to do it. And make it secure and as we look at this memo that Goodell put out as well for all. Nfl Clubs Something that came to mind here is the Somewhat insinuates as I was reading across twitter at different sites here that it somewhat insinuates that there will be no offseason programs through June which would lead up to the NFL teams to figure out if this pandemic passes because we don't know there's unprecedented circumstances here right now happening with the corona virus with everything that has happened to this glow. This planet like we don't know right now with the repercussions are with the followed is of course we all. WanNa say the NFL SEASON. Go ahead on time. But you can't predict that in this setting that we have never experienced. Nobody knows what's going to happen right now but when you look at it if you try to imagine the NFL off season program really not starting until training camp vinny. How can you picture the training camp? Let's say for the raiders going ahead and wet scenario. It may work out for like as far as what city. They're planning it in. Would it be here in Vegas? Would it be back in NAPA? How can you visualize what could happen? Here with the raiders. Honestly all of the above You know we're dealing with so many uncertainties right now and You know I've heard talking to some agents who heard some rumblings on their end of things that may be. It starts up in July at the very very beginning of July. Where you Kinda put together a quick you know. Ot A and your rookie mini camp That walks up to the actual training camp at the very end of the month. Just to kind of get you know guys together a little bit and especially those rookie players. I your players new players to your to your program Just to get their feet wet a little bit before going into full Flex Training Camp. No where it might be That's a great question. California California Governor Gavin Newsom said that you know Not expected to do anything necessarily this summer. Maybe even games later on in the fall in California so You know the Rams Fox. Uc Irvine. the raiders practice in Napa. If that's closed off to them Maybe the maybe the rams go back two thousand with our facility as the rant. Raiders is do a training camp. Whatever form or fashion or timeline. It is it's in Henderson. When you look the Dallas cowboys go to oxnard. California every year for training camp Given everything that's going on right now you know. Wouldn't it be better for them not to take their entire football operations and staff members all the way to California for three weeks of training camp? If it's even that one I've just stayed at their facility and plant safes for your employees in staff numbers with people like that so I could see unfolding in all sorts of different ways but the longer this goes on the more than I would think that teams would stay as close to home as possible For training camp whatever length that training camp might be and miles? Can you imagine even like let's say the personnel? That's normally their media. That's normally there. Would you imagine right now? That they would-be-trump training camp where it's just the team in a secure location. I think that might be something. That is somewhat prudent and the NFL teams may consider on a team by team basis. What do you think about that concept? Yeah you know. I think that that's definitely something that can happen. I think it's likely I don't really see a situation where you get. A whole bunch of fans spectators in the stands just to watch practice not game not a game a game practice. It doesn't seem like it would just it? It doesn't seem like it would be very logical to do that so I think you know if you are like many were saying. If you're the rams you probably stay in thousand oaks I think if you're the raiders. You've got this nice new brand new facility that knock on wood should be open for by that time You know I think it would make more sense to stay there rather than go where you would be having fans in it's like you said if it's unfortunate reality of what. The situation is right now but I think if there is going to be some type of off season activities some type of training camp. It stands to reason that it would be the team. Maybe some media standing six feet apart if we still have to do that then and I don't know why there would be spectators. There just doesn't seem like it would be a prudent thing to do. Yeah and real quick. You know I've talked to a few. Nfl people and they're like look the key to all of us. is teams are going to have to adapt very very quickly. Because you may not get word until middle of the summer or you know at some point that this is what you're going to have to do or even before that prior to that you know again. Team like the raiders. They go away for training camp. The rams go away for training captors had fourteen. That still do that. Cowboys also They're gonNA have to regroup and figure out a different way most likely In that takes planning in logistics and all that kind of stuff in coordination and Communication Organization and the teams are going to be able to handle all of this uncertainty in all these rapidly moving parts in order to be as prepared as possible for the opening of the season and we talked about this with the draft the same same situation that teams that are ahead of that curve. There are already planning and I'm sure all of them are to some extent of they're they're gonNa have the advantage when you know when the cosigning clears everyone gets an Okita to start playing again. This season is going to be interesting to see how hard knocks plays out if it plays out because last year a lot of people had wanted to have the raiders. Wait until this season that we're just twenty twenty to do hard knocks for them. Now when they're moving to Las Vegas instead that torch is being passed to the rams and the chargers and I think now probably a lot of raider fans are glad that they got to see their team come together last year on the show. This year is going to be crazy. I mean can you imagine not just that there are two teams doing this but that they're moving to a new stadium as well that they have all this craziness happening around them and trying to figure out how to also bring in the encompassing production staff of hard knocks like how that would come about? I can't even imagine yet but I think a lot of Nfl Fans particularly Raider. Fans are excited now that they were able to see the silver and black on hard knocks last year. But something that we've been talking about here with how this off season may work. It's interesting to me now. What other organizations are doing what they're thinking about for their seasons for instance the UFC as according to Dana White. That's the president of the SEPA has found a private island that is going to be hosting all the cards after April. Eighteenth and going forward until you trying to get that assignment. I will likely stay here. You know unless there's some draft that can put me up on a tree where I get a bird's eye view this octagon. There's no way I'm trying to get that assignment. I am fine staying on my virtual level with things right now but by card is going to be amazing. But however I digress. The the Siamese right now. Excuse me as I'm with you see on the island and all the fighters going forward. They have that as their contingency plan. Baseball's thinking about playing everything in Arizona Phoenix where they say. There's the light traffic around the area. Nba might be having a horse tournament where everyone plays from home. I suggested doing the dunk contest over but that wasn't really taken under consideration by ESPN content. They didn't reply back to me and then they have. Nfl maybe let's say what if we think green or somewhere that's out in a area where I mean. Green Bay is kind of central to that city. But it's not a metropolis. Otas speak like New York is or like going into Oakland would be. It's a lot less of a population and I don't know if they would consider hosting games at like stadiums may be like the new era stadium or Foxborough ones that aren't totally central intensity even like the cowboys during Jerry lamb that's like eighteen miles outside of Dallas. Santa Clara isn't completely a bad idea because it's surrounded by an amusement park on the other end so and that's probably closed down for now so it's you know what. I'm trying to think about contingency plans for the NFL Vinnie. What do you think they may start looking at if they have to That's a that's a really interesting question because again you go back to California where the forty niners chargers rounds And that's it nowadays right. That's the three teams that are still out to California You Know Gavin. Newsom the the The governor after trump came out president trump came out and said You know that he would like to see the NFL. Start the season on schedule. Full schedule Later this fall Governor newsom sounded really skeptical. That could happen in his stays. Quite shirt You know you'd be okay with that. Would allow it so one of the chargers rams and forty niners doing the interim do you come to las. Vegas does one team may become to Las Vegas. Share the stadium with the raiders Do you go down to Arizona may be one of the other teams buzzed. Arizona just thinking logistically for teams. You know in this in this region that could Schmidt Sheriff stadium for a time being are ready even the full seasons who knows So you know you're not gonNA play a season without the three teams. The three California Tans So that becomes an issue and you know the schedule was supposed to come out sometime in April mountain been pushed to to May. I don't think they said it was for code. Nineteen or some other reason why that was going to be the case. But at some point they're going to put a schedule together and put it out And how do you put out a schedule? If you don't really know you know where this is all headed so just a whole bunch of issues with the League has asked to deal with. But you know I'm sure they're working twenty four seven trying to figure out every type every different type of scenario And have a plan in place for whatever. The scenario might be miles. If you had to come up with some sort of contingency plan would you imagine it would be something like Trying to host games in these stadiums that may be aren't centralized to these big cities Would you come up with it's interesting? I'm not sure I think that part. What are the interesting things that? Mlb came up with was going down. Arizona where there are all. These different feels that they can use. It can use chase field. Obviously on the one for the diamondbacks in they have all these spring training facilities that are so close that they can use that but they would need expanded roster as all these different things. I don't know how well that would work for football. Just because I mean you you need more people to play it first of all and you know players in baseball. It's interesting because like you know. Players are kind of inherently socially distanced. Right like they're all standing so far apart unless you're in the dugout. Obviously but when you're on the field you're not necessarily always that close to another person unless you're like the batter umpire the catcher or you're on base or something. This is a very different sport. So I don't know I think certainly if there are certain states that are out of the equation in terms of war. You can play games it. It really really makes it hard. I think to play football. In general. I think more of what I see happening is that the season gets shortened. You may be go to twelve games. You take off the four non conference games and you know you just play within your own conference for the entire season. I feel like that's more of a viable option. Just if you need if the. Nfl needs more time for certain places to really get open again. I just feel like that is more realistic. Because then you could at least have team train in a different place for a little bit and then maybe things would be okay. But I don't know everything is just so much conjecture you know. And it's kind of guessing. We don't know the virus determines the timeline absolutely so according to what? I've seen here. I think that We're GONNA have to start wrapping up the show today but I do WanNa get to one of the comments made on twitter here. The comes from Tom. Jones at T. Three underscore sports seven zero three. He wanted on Tom. Jones with teammate unusual. Listen to our show and he said that there is a new name to consider here. I'm not sure at what number he had intended but I think it would go in the third round. You think Stevens Sullivan tied in out of Lsu someone to consider six hundred six two hundred fifty four pounds with a four point. Five five speed converted to tight end from wide receiver could create nightmare downfield matchups just like they're in waller. Imagine having to Darren Waller's on the field at once I replied dame with. I think the raiders may be stacked up on Titan but miles of any any input on this one miles the verdict. They've already got an LSU tight end. Man's name was understand that he's got a knee injuries. Coming off of that. But look when you have guys like Durham. Obviously they are big matchup nightmares. But there's only so many that you can put on the field at once you know can you? If you have two tight ends then one is for one match up and the other can be for another matchup but you still have to have wide receiver. So unless you really think that you're going to go you know twelve personnel all the time. And you're not going to spread the ball out as much you're GONNA run some thirteen. You know with three tight ends. And you're not gonNA run wide receiver sets as much honestly as I sit here thinking about it. Maybe that would be a better thing for the raiders considering the talent level each of those places until the draft as we sit right now but anyway. I don't know about that I think are set on titans to yeah. I think they're set on tight ends as well Definitely nice expected at different year Perhaps but They're almost overstep chat at at tight end right now so there's other needs obviously obviously wide receiver one. It wouldn't surprise me if the raiders doubled up at wide receiver. I think they need to find a complimentary running back for Josh Jay. Talking offensively right. Now maybe. A young offensive Lineman To kind of develop for the future. And obviously we go to defense a quarterback safety another linebacker. You're always on the lookout for out for more pass rush Interior Defensive Linemen. So I think tight end this year is a little bit further down the Totem Pole But not taking anything away from the LSU prospect. I just like the writers are set up. That position agreed. So that'll do it for us here but you WANNA go head checkout VEGAS NATION DOT COM. There's some great stuff there. On Nevin Lawson Trayvon Molin. 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Raiders draft analysis / Will Marshawn Lynch return?
"We real hard getting guys were for the most part and in their twenties with an ability to in some upside so we've been working real hard at trying to get younger more athletic obviously from the player standpoint us as well as review journal Dot com slash podcast thank you for listening familiar face who will be wearing an unfamiliar number this year because the team's number one of one of its three number one First round picks kroll big piece of the running back puzzle seems to be lost to the season Michael due to a tear of his Achilles tendon what happened to Isaiah crawl and into all things draft related because we do have a lot to recap there let's take a minute to get everybody updated on some of the latest news but even before we do that Michael sufferers of injury that will require season ending surgery and so to help mitigate his loss teams expected to sign Doug Martin I'm doing well how are you I'm doing all right as well Michael and it was really good to see you down there at the Oakland headquarters Michael I handled all things draft related from around so there's there's phase one for a couple of weeks where coaches employers aren't allowed to be on the same fields early only coaches are are they interact players see him a sign soon he's not officially signed quite yet of that is expected to transpire but with those additions we have Josh Jacobs there Michael and then scribe on for your podcast mayor drops a comment let you let us know what you think we always love to hear from those of you out there listening to Vegas nation before we get it's time for another edition of the Vegas Nation podcast again you can always find us online at review journal Dot com slash podcast or any platform that you see who is here in terms of this draft class WHO's here in terms of undrafted rookies raiders are GonNa hold their rookie minicamp starting on Friday so looking forward to that but what have the raiders done to kind of repair what's been done here with him yeah it's really unfortunate across you mentioned are lost Oakland fans and everything here is going to be interesting to see the translation and how our carries over to Las Vegas so I mean I'll just look at the are you I'm doing well how did he finally got a chance to exhale from the drafts now it's behind us we know exactly the classroom with meetings they can't actually go on the field there's no footballs allowed any onfield workout so just athletes working with strength conditioning staff acid in Josh Jacobs the Alabama running back I running back off of the draft board Martin won't be number twenty eight but will likely and so it was nice it was nice to catch up on awesome well so we have a little bit in news here coming out of the raiders camp and is for the season with Nicholas Tendon rupture that reportedly occurred Tuesday a which is the second day of the raiders stays to on voluntary work. There's a few other guys that have I guess to fight for position they're like De'andre Washington Chris Warren Jalen Rashard what do you think would oakland until the final day of the draft where I came out to Vegas you know we did get the chance to see each other again a little bit of reunion we hadn't seen each other since I think what the last season Chris warned despite Washington recovering from arthroscopic surgery so warring is an interesting name he is a name that waste of the outside sources they have visit for themselves as far as the football player in their life you know what I mean that's something that I'm really big on the rich history here aww the of a new stadium and it's GonNa be great hey everyone it's Heidi thing here along with our raiders beat writer Michael Belkin and starting on Monday for the first time coaches and players are allowed to get on the fee also listens early early in the raiders off season activities in the very next day what will this look like how things shake out with the running back picture only really certain is that generous chart is going to be part of it. It'll be Josh Jacobs. NFL twitter is all over because he led the NFL in preseason rushing last year as an undrafted rookie he's got some great bloodlines and got on the list it'll be generous chart then beyond that you know we'll see exactly what it looks like your there's a good chance jonker Washington's part of this backfield but you're just some interesting aspects of them but when you really take a close look in terms of how the raiders U. M. a. e. isn't someone who's assured to be part of this early May you know you can't submit that for shirts because he was kind of on the back end of fans in two thousand eighteen although the team to carry them at the start the season over well he's really good at being one of those goal line backs that can muscle his way into the end zone somebody who can push the defensive line back if you will kind of a a two thousand nineteen he's GonNa have a chance to but you know he's He's upright runner who's got to get better and pass protection he's got two young back bull when he comes through from the backfield so when you look at his style of running who on the roster right now Kinda can match that so we'll see over the course of training camp and the preseason what sort of stakes he can claim on this position battle also help if you could place in special teams that metric work and then Doug Martin Johnny Washington vying for Opportunities Beyond that with Chris Warren looking to push his way to the door we knew look at what crew quite tribute there we saw last year so warns interesting but he's GonNa have to earn an opportunity just like marshawn Lynch and there's been talk that he could retire there's been a no movement in terms of the Raider signing him and there's a reason why all that I point I ain't Josh Jacobs is a guy that I think probably a lot of people already are circling on their Jhansi draft lists as a guy who can is it just kind of a way to the contract was over and we have to let you go yeah it was I was at a former where was the other it was Martin who got the call so we've been told now a number of ways that the raiders are looking to go in another direction nope couple of seasons here where he's been able to be a writer so I don't think for him there is any other option like you said but the raiders seemed to be going Kinsey twin brother Raleigh they've let him go I mean does this fall under the scope of there's a new sheriff in town and they're bringing in their own guys or in April before the draft would be a raider Oakland Raider that's important marshawn Lynch and he'd be open to having another season with the club would have been be third in other directions with other things as well they have a scout to some relation to the former GM that was actually a Reggie Miller happened this you're connected with the raiders wanted marshawn Lynch on their roster he'd be on this roster yeah he wouldn't be reportedly retiring Adam schefter reported again if things change from the radio standpoint they wanted marshawn Lynch v Raider sounds like today that he would be but it's pretty clear at this point that the raiders well I think there's a short yardage Josh Shaka's has some power to them on you know he's a guy with this obviously will route Ryan ability is considered to be it's Oakland is a native of that city and that's means a lot to him I think when you look at his career and how everything went and the last sniper bringing in here which includes potentially rookies or what have you so I would say for sure behind Josh Jacobs who's going to see a lot of because he's an area scout signed the northeast region of the country from Carolina's two main and yet but yeah Johndroe Josh Jacobs Oh He somebody who who racked up w touchdowns in this offense especially if it's torture off into the raiders -ticipant was gonna come in and bringing his own people after the drafts and we're going to start to see that you're Raleigh McKenzie is one of Multiple Raider Scouts who've been dismissed but all indications are that the raiders are looking to move in a different direction main if you are looking at the tea leaves Dombak when he saw where you can put it in there in short yardage situations he's stout guy you're short isn't Martin now you can do it he has done it Enzi for the maturity and professionalism that he showed because I can't imagine what it would be like when you've worked for his ation for about seven years in your brother brought you in your and there's no other NFL team for which marsh wants to play beyond the open raiders so if the raiders don't want him he doesn't want to continue his career and so that's where we are even though your fate is pretty much seal and so a Raleigh Ganzi who would be at the senior bowl and dressed in his raiders tire and people would do double takes has been there after and you're just going through the motions you know there's a high high high probability you're going to be fired or are not retaining I should say because it's you know the probably the top scoring rookie position now one name that we also should acknowledge is one that isn't on this roster see past all the news here and things that the raiders have done lately with the roster obviously the draft is a big part of what's to come here for the season is linked to Mike mayock predecessor as swift twin brother and he had duties to fulfil under his contract that the raiders needed are it was known when Mike Map was hired early the moment that Regina Kenzi was dismissed in mid-december that whoever the new GM is going to be indicator yeah so as a photographer at that became a little bit tricky had to look for all the clues before he put it out in print but as we the same they drafted running back in the first round they assigned another one of their first round Picks Safety Jonathan Abram number twenty four which marshawn lynch is worn scene where it's not just rushing touchdowns as pass receiving touchdowns at they are able to use him the way they want to use him and also just get some blood from health st rookie camp as you mentioned starting this coming Friday and Michael everything that you wrote is fantastic on these guys I really liked the piece that his career and then that wasn't enough when I lose crawled injury at two running backs to refer agents from last year's roster marshawn Lynch was one Doug Martin Thousand Eighteen you know moving aside from obviously some Exceptions to this you know Colin Miller was to be clean as a prospect from medical sample the articles the culture that the raiders are trying to build the people that they're trying to bring in a when we look at an overview of the picks from the NFL draft twin brother bought UN and he's fired and then you stay around After joy clink scales a childhood friend of your your guys are off of other teams draft wars time for multiple reasons Argon key barriers traded up in the third round for him now there's teams that failed him because of off the field as well that the raiders made that a raise eyebrows are from some around the lead in so you know there wasn't any of the turns with his character and other teams failed him as well for medical concerns because of a shoulder injury and yet the raiders traded up and they drafted him features about the the adversity that so many of them have been through you look at the top two picks here for the raiders and those guys and character that they're going to add to his team the things that they've been through with Josh Jacobs and Cleland girl I think it speaks a lot for as you mentioned in what was your general consensus outside of that of the picks that they made and what they brought in to add to the team here or they wanted purpose expiring after the draft but still you go through the rigors in the meetings the pro days in every aspect of the project process list of than Raleigh McKenzie with whom I spoke and wrote an article on recently he's like you said someone who's very close the meetings and all those sorts of things so this draft class felt different from the last one and we'll see what sort of results it yields but the raiders I think rightfully are seriously looking in another direction and not even the injured for welcome change well you said if marshawn where to finish out his career can't imagine he would do it anywhere else besides in which is there's just a totally different vibe from feel about the approach the raiders had and executed with disrupt class whereas last year out of the North or the South Squad in Mobile Alabama this happens in January shortly before the Super Bowl in the raiders forty niners were assigned to do and so the raiders included him as part of their project process. You've no it is a bit of an opera dynamic I think a really you have to credit rolling the Edward Mackenzie what's he doing so like he did thrall that you know he was very public in you know it was it was kind of the talks that I heard a starting to scout from an organization and he said that Kinda confirmed what I was feeling about this register from the South you know there was a the man who oversees the senior bowl game he sent a text message to to no players guys who not only talented but instilled the sort of character that they had you know looking for off the field and in the Locker the task of coaching and the Raiders were coaching the North Squad and yet drafted four players from May out during the draft after the fourth player was selected. Instead I guess I give you guys that are on team to coach but so the raiders were able to add wasn't actually able to participate in the game The raiders added some guys that they were coaching against the they still had an opportunity to spend extra time with these guys does this year I mean maybe you're is rate eyebrows raised a little bit when the raiders Cleveland for all four overall because you would think you know the raiders could trade the will await his next opportunity in scouting or otherwise admit the only way you could tell them apart was that Raleigh had a mustache and get a little bit of mustard coach yeah so what do you make of that is it just that they were kinda eyeballing everybody that they saw out there and they had a lot of high marks on some of these players I territory guys come into this building that was something that Mike Mayock really talked about a lot before the draft not just publicly but privately foundation had guys that yeah they coached against and so they did also brilliant undrafted rookies guys like to von Coney Notre Dame linebacker coach Dos it just couldn't because nobody was willing really to move up and they decided to stay true to their draft for Nick Bosa their top edge defender on their board was gone and Eraser next one soundbite Deshaun Watson so I feel like they got a lot of value out of him just based on that feel like a lot of people might have forgotten about who he was and that game draft Michael that they had to fill a hole behind a void left behind by Seth Roberts and is Hunter Renfro that guy is are they when you have Trayvon Molin and then you have as you mentioned Hunter Renfro who in that two thousand seventeen national championship game he caught a game winning touchdown throw that he is you know he's a fifth round pick who isn't somebody who took the combine by storm by any stretch I mean he's five foot ten he are encouraged excited about what they do on drafter and a lot of these picks Michael where people that they saw in the senior bowl and then you also as of April fifth year team option a reader's sterling plenty of opportunity to coach them now and they did get themselves three clemson players as well Cleland Ferrell the Jon Gruden that was very much felt like Jon Gruden ten took over the wheel that drafted a different vibe than any before him underage Mackenzie and then you know there's other Oh you know sometimes you were walking and you kind of see people looking at you're talking to you that was pretty much Raleigh McKenzie's life for months but still he still duties again and now joint standpoint interface no red flags about not to feel with him but when you look at some of the selections that the raiders made multiple guys that were somebody who win a quarterback for the snap and tell their sticks Russia's coming he's only got five in protection he's got to get rid of the ball quick they're gonna take them and so Once you get past that and if you look at this raiders strapless you see a lot of value you see a lot of needs being address you see a lot of draft unless you count Clinton Bell defensive and took in the seventh round so Renfro is somebody who may not believe can be a quarterback best friend we did see a fantastic opportunity for any teen that goes there certainly for the two coaching staffs who are assigned to coach confirm last you WanNa do is put out there I guess fired and not to be hundred percent accurate so I'm I'm being respectful of that and have no further names to to to twenty nine and a quarter inches he's not somebody who's imposing with size there's like running jokes he looks like he's forty years old already by convene hundred eighty four pounds yet the smallest hands in the draft at seven in seven eighths inches and then I think he might have was short his arms at okay guard taken a bit yeah I think that's probably the line position where you thought that the raiders were going to address and I think it's so we could see however now in free agency the raiders add someone a guard veteran guard compete with Denzel one position that the raiders didn't address they thought they were going to as well you just didn't happen for them now they ended up in the fourth round you know with I'm told I don't have other names confirmed the last thing I wanted to be when you your name is up to the guy has been dismissed but if you're able to reach that guy and you're able the Johnson you know taking a cornerback that theoretically could have been a guard if somebody that he likes still available but I decided that the best player in the board and somebody they felt should have gone Ashton he's a he had a bad knee so after surgery a couple of years ago that was that was held so I have a different gate to their walkway right mustaches coming into this draft so it was almost like kind of sleeper pick I think to have somebody like this that they can plug in right away you mentioned it on that day of the and the competition that firmly places him on the roster bubble I think it's more likely than not today that Nelson won't make this roster which is something the sorts of exposures at the retrieval to get so under Renfro a teams late round draft picks is expected to be a top option to be their slot up the slot receiver
Raider's first day of padded practice 2019
"They don't want to have a good receiver core. I want to have the best receiving core football and i think they have the best again. In my opinion we acquire the best wide receiver in football us get to work. I'm decided being in the same buildings guys who've been great on the past. I'm excited to be here. I'll go to now low farce. Winning environment got a great opportunity to go and play with great coach great coach staff great organization a lot of he's these three and in a year you'll be the first part. I and i couldn't turn that offer go. They just nation presented by s._d._n. Sports mobile from station casinos. What's what's up everybody. It's time for another edition of the vegas. Nation podcast brought to you by s. T. end sports mobile stations casino. We are out here in napa today on this monday third day of training camp and the pads have come on all right. We are here today with ed greenie review journal sports columnist are raiders be writer michael belkin. I am heidi fang and you can follow us all on twitter at elkin n._f._l. At ed grainy i._m. At heidi fang guiseley pads came on today at camp and usually we see some fights lights. We see some steamed up reactions from some of the players. What did you get out of the first day of pads michael. I'm sure give some time there will be some. It will get chippy be recently chippiness. It happens every year. It's a matter of time in all thirty two n._f._l. Camps run the league but day one one thing that coaches really stressed the players before the <unk> feel was you gotta take care of each other. You know don't do anything that puts a teammate at medical medical risk likewise. They also wanted to see the guys now that the physicality increases do does your technique decrease. Are you getting to amped up and doing the things that were taught in the spring or not. As during mini camp in during these first couple of days not in pats seemed overall like the raiders had a good first day certainly protected each other overall. It was a possible scare late in practice where marcel eightman a former seventh round pick who probably won't make this team this year but the wide receiver bigeye catches a pass over the middle runs downfield play extensively is over and then safety eric harris who obviously means no ill-will when he does have some fun and also finishing he come from behind strips it the ball <hes> <hes> and then eight men immediately starts favoring his right hand wrist area <hes> practice ended but soon thereafter in evaluated but he looks to be okay okay and so that was the only real injury situation that i noticed in monday's practice in appears to be all for not. I'm fired up. I'll tell you why because is at six this morning here in the napa little condo that we're in i heard some rumblings out here and to me that was gilpin out here running into walls because it's i. This kid loves pads loves man. You should have seen into very nervous that we didn't have someone down at the other end of the field for seven on seven because he had to watch the offensive and defensive linemen go crazy on each other and i watched the whole time i ran down as khali to get seven on seven by the way in that sense <hes> everyone hope out there if you're a raiders derek carr doesn't get injured because those two backup state ouch ouch unbelievably bad anyway as i watched gilpin at the other end of the film and he was zeroed in on the hitting so that's all i have for you today. Gokhan was up at six am running into walls and the condo which means we're really into football now and until the pads come on you don't know anyway so very excited that the pads are on heidi frank and we talk about what what you look for when the team is in pads adds that was the drill period that was really interested in seeing where you see throughout the course of practice certainly during levin eleven where it's offense versus. The defensive lines 'cause pass rush is was make a break area for the raiders last year in it broke them they had thirteen sacks was terrible terrible. We don't need to go deeply into it wasn't close to where it needed to be a wanting to go deeper and then this year how much better if if at all are they in that area and i they have to be better you know some of those rookies from last year their second year players now in that had three more rookie draft picks their defensive of line including the number four overall pick clue furlan just by proxy of his presence in josh maros presence of veteran who the team signed in march. That's that's the base defense. You're not asking arden key to play forty snaps again. You can ask him to be a situational pass rusher which was raiders plan all along last year so i'm just eager to see the how these guys looked and i thought the offense align won the day it'd be nice defensive line on the day but colton miller is suddenly grown own man. He's gotten a lot stronger and so that was good to see him. He certainly fended off clue in rural quite efficiently s._d._n. Sports is the only sports sports betting app. You need this season. Sign up today and get a new sign up bonus of up to fifty dollars. Let me ask you one question here in pro yes we do. They do the oklahoma oh homa drill man on man they used to. I don't think they do that anymore. Correct me from one. They're probably worried about injuring two. They make too much money like in college. It's a huge deal. U._n._l._v. does tony sanchez. Does it line it up one on one off defensive guy and you just go at it and you're in a little circle there and whoever wins but i would imagine and you can tell the people listening in the n._f._l. They would think we're not messing rallied injuries here. We're gonna be as careful as possible something to do with it yeah yeah. It's all about protecting players. I think in the current landscape just the way that this game is utah so much focuses on that just protecting guys. They just don't see that. I'm trying to think back the last time i did in my career. I'm wondering if marty schottenheimer do that. <hes> i think he did north turn. I mean i'm going way back but you know the past few coaches that i've been around having done that. Gruden and people say that he's old school but that's not giving him enough credit. He's trying to take care of his player. She doesn't want them to get injured. There might be times over the course training camp where they go live which means that you're tap into the ground. He's gonna do that. When say james butler. A type of practice type of guy is on the field because you want to see you know how he looks and that sort of setting exact crockett was a player or i'm trying to think of who else b- gruden's talked about how you go live in practice you can. It's really great evaluation tool aw so i think that in terms of physicality something we could see over the course of camp but when it comes to that it's very raw dairy amateur football. It's very antiquated antiquated yeah so i don't think that is going to be something that those season ticket holders who shook the practice us. We're going to see on the field in napa okay so we talked to a lot of the defensive players. Today clue unfurled the and one of them. You said that he was being fended off pretty well by colton miller michael so when you look at somebody like furled. There's a lot of spotlight on them. There's a lot of is on and pick number four overall in the draft. A lot of people said too high but mayock stood behind the guy saying that this was the guy. I checked all of our boxes as right now. Do you think may still seeing those praises after easing them. Oh yeah absolutely don't make no mistake that observation from one day at practice as being an indicator that clued ferrall isn't everything that the raiders wanted and hoped he would be he. Is you talking talking talking about his leadership ability. He during that news conference i think we have the audio might be worth playing. He goes on this. Really you know it's just very deep philosophical. You can tell how much it means to them. How considerate is about not just the future of the raiders but the past of the raiders and and the attention to detail in terms of what separates good from great you'll hear clue and for all right now talk and you'll see why the raiders were excited about him when selected him number four overall and why they remained excited about him. I've always accord to being a complete player for like. I'm a guy that just my gravity. I never wanna come off the field just because i want to be the guy to say i want him. On the field. I won't be in the trenches with that guy. I won't that guy beside me would be lineup his fourth and one on the goal line and we need it and then we need to stop it from getting zone so <hes> <hes> it's just it's really just a mindset man. You know obviously you gotta be you know physical and had the physical stature to to be you know every down player but i feel like it's just a massive massive the mental toughness and just having an acute for so i gotta keep building that key working hard. I can earn their rights. It's all that sounds great from cleveland for all. I think the key thing to follow up on is not just what he's saying. What's between the ears that the raiders love. This is a two way player a guy who can set the edge in the run game first and foremost but he's also can get after the quarterback till he's some degree. Is this going to be your. You're one a ten sack guy. No you're five six. Is he going to be that guy. I'm not even sure that he will be but well he brings and from just the presence in leadership and culture standpoint in your locker room at number four overall. You want a building block a guy that you can just have the leader for years to come and that is what by all indications furrow is and again you. You're listening to vegas nation. You can find us on vegas. Nation dot com the vegas nation app and in print at the review journal. Ed has a great piece coming out here that it should. It actually already be imprint. We have a special interview with brandon marshal. A is the only guy right now on the raiders roster who hails from las vegas yes. He even said oh review journal. I know i used to look up my stats on the prep site so he's very familiar with our paper. At how did that conversation go a brand marshall and what do you gather here from him coming from one a._f._c. west team to another settling in with the raiders taught as reporters and journalists and columnists <hes> even so not too overly root for people you kind of have to stay balanced in the middle but different ashamed. I'm sorry keep going. Would you sansa thanks homer g going on so i don't wanna be homer but i'll be a homer with brandon marshal because of his background. I think it would be awesome for this guy. He signed a one year deal but you know he's he's getting along. The two sides injuries please eight years in the league has super bowl ring but this is a guy who vegas guy his foundation for at risk youth in las las vegas tremendous. He's helped a lot of kids there. He got he got waived. He's been on practice squad working all the way himself all the way to super champion. I think it'd be terrific if he could last at least two years which means he would play in the stadium next year and i talked to him about running out in that stadium and he says he's dreamed about it over and over. His mom moved to denver when he played denver. He's now mama house back in las las vegas. Oh she's back there. I just think awesome brandon marshall could run out of that stadium with the home team and everything he's done for kids in las vegas people. I know people listening some people i know but he has a foundation dacian at risk youth where he makes them get certain g._p._a.'s he makes them have certain volunteer hours. He's a really really bright kind of compelling guy who's helped so many kids kids so yeah i hope brandon marshall can stay healthy enough to play another year so he could be back in home and finish it inveighs. Not many people could go back to their hometown down to finish their careers and certainly not in vegas because north is going to get a team until they did so that was really cool. I will say this clue in rural at the draft when i asked ask talk to davos sweeney about him the clemson coach the i said i need to talk about cleveland. Farrell is all all as far all cleanly bar'll aw i said okay. I'm sorry about that. He goes and this is not nabal. Swinney is sweney so i was able to at that point for whatever reason on deadline no the correct pronunciation of to clemson people one of whom i don't really will never cover and then when i covered cleveland furrow i'll be able to say his name correctly. That's just a little tidbit for the people listening. What's funny burrel yeah. It's very important to player to pharaoh but it's not pronouncing. The thing isn't that people don't take it from me. When you watch hard knox for the first episode on august six. You're going to hear it coaches. Call him feral so they call him the incorrectly incorrect way but i probably should have asked clue in this but obviously he's not correcting people you just go. I'm sorry mr gruden. It's actually furrow. Thank you brian. She it it. It's not something that is going to be said but it is for pearl. Point made sweeney not sweeney. I always thought it was was sweeney. Sweeney sweeney. If you look at it spelled you'd think swinney winnie an e y e tomo sweeney call the coach by the name and i did as long as we don't have another two raw aw tyrod taylor situation on hard knocks. I'm good but something michael. You've made note of today <hes> when we were doing our wrap up here was the fact that avanti's perfect came out and spoke a little bit about jonathan abram the other rookie. I guess interesting because he said that it was kind of like doc. That abram reminded him of himself. What was it exactly that birthday had to say. There was like lebron james saying about a rookie he takes too. Many free throws is vaunted perfect saying this guy's too aggressive. He is a perfect conversely has a track record and it's well deserved. He is by many people's estimations if you're a a name a dirty player in the n._f._l. The first name that is cited. There's other players around the league certainly but he's on the mount rushmore for sure and yet we play this clip to ready. We can play. We'll play it but elkins becoming like an expert at throwing the clips looks right. He loves throwing the clinton visit on video and now he's doing. He wants us so badly interrupted himself in his own thought by saying heidi we throw into this clip. Can i have a quick look through didn't throw to and by the way this is vaughn is perfect saying that jonathan abrams do aggressive is like mike belkin saying you're going after the news too much. This is beat writer writer baby. Maybe he's all about the news better throw that i could've died rural heidi roll it. I don't remember any time rookie. That's coming in just talking as much they. I do even getting into other players heads and just like i said abraham saw aggressive. Sometimes i have to tell you gotta. Hold it back a little bit. You know where team so the kings ragging on the rams come in he doesn't he doesn't care so you know. He's young talented aggressive. I can't wait to see him. Play on sundays never thought i'd here the day like you said volunteers perfect calling somebody else too aggressive. That's what you get out of. This raiders cam newton crew new culture new coaches everything. It's going to be a completely different. Look is what i think. The fans are hoping from last year's team <hes> as far as injuries go michael. Is there there anybody of note right now that we should let the fans know about as far as notable injuries that happened today happened today. No eightman was the only thing that i noticed anyway. Perhaps i miss it. It's possible happens. We'll see what happens based on this weekend. There were some ailments step popped up at evanger does suffer concussion. The two thousand seventeen third round pick great listen to be in great shape he in like a one on one drill. Some random non padded practice incident where he felt concussion symptoms. He was escort off the field and indeed i was told was diagnosed with a concussion so it's unfortunate for a guy who's worked so hard to be in great shape. You know we had we've seen players who weren't in great shape. Chris chris warren was cut on sunday. Vandross works to put himself in the position. Listen to make this football team and then suffered a setback now. This doesn't likely write him off for making this team but it's obviously not the kind of start to training camp that he he was looking at half so he didn't practice on monday. We have been seeing more of ronald. Ali who definitely will be subject of some attention on hard knocks this year cameras lose themselves from ali. He's the undrafted rookie will he make the story feel good story of the season probably and for good reason because of his path the league thus far but he remained sidelined with an undisclosed injuries so he's missed two straight practices and that of course doesn't help his chances important injury certainly is that two second round cornerback trayvon molin he has a wrist injury do not know the severity but given what he stands to to bring to the raiders this season definitely keep an eye on there again. I have no idea that the severity hopefully minor but he was not participating in football activities activities today that will do it for us here. From napa again you can find the vegas nation podcast on review journal dot com slash podcast on the vegas nation nation app download that today let us know some feedback. Let us know what you think about the show. We always love to hear it and follow us on twitter at greeny at gokhan n._f._l. 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First and 10: Can the Raiders be a top-5 offense?
"He there because you're listening to this podcast. We Blew I. Want you to know this one. We've frigging love you in to we WANNA learn more about you help us make more content. You'll love by filling out a survey. You can find in the description of this podcast. You'll help us out a ton, and you'll have a chance to a blue t shirt, hoodie or pair of air pods appreciate. You hope you're staying safe and want you to enjoy this podcast. You're listening to bake nation. It's Monday which means it's time for first and ten with your host. Vinnie bonsignore. What upgrade fans welcome to Vegas Nation First and ten year, Monday Go-to for all your rader news and inside and analysis some you already know who I am, but for the newcomers. On the raiders beat writer for the Las Vegas Review Journal and I'm beyond excited to get. This show kicked off. This is the first one the inaugural one Vegas Nation First and ten. We're going to be here all Mondays to talk about all things raider related. We're GONNA take a deep dive into everything that happened heading into the season after Sunday games. It's going to be a lot of fun. I welcome all input. You guys know already know how to hit me up at Vinnie. Bonsignore on twitter, the Bonsignore at Review Journal. Dot Com, so don't be shy if you see me at. At Allegiance Stadium Walking into the stadium at the stadium? Don't be shy. Say what's up here for all you guys I serve. You guys I really believe that, and that's how we're going to approach this show. We got a lot to talk about today, but before I get started. I want to say this episode. Of Vegas, nation is brought to you by S T and sports from station Casinos STN's sports is the only sports betting. APP You need this season, sign up today and get a new sign up bonus of up to fifty dollars also were also presented by favor shot spider two. Zero all right all right all right. Let's get right to it. Man Oh man you guys. Let me just tell you something. I've been doing this covering the NFL on a daily basis for about five years. Before that, you know all sports related things. We don't need to get into all that Lakers dodgers all that kind of stuff back in Los Angeles spoke specifically the NFL for last five years on a daily basis and man. Oh Man, there's never been an off-season like that. Obviously, that's goes without saying. We're dealing with a unprecedented situation with pandemic, but this is a football show a raiders, related football show, and specifically as it relates to the raiders. And football this is been the craziest season that I can ever remember. The big question is because we're dealing with so many uncertainties is how it's really going to affect the raiders funny. The other day I was talking to a player, and he'll remain nameless, and he's out working out with his teammates. He's on an NFL team, and they get together. For their for their impromptu unorganized workouts were players. Get together trying to simulate something football related on an actual field and he was telling me man did every time. Doctor Fao she comes on the air. We respect what he has to say, obviously he. He's the scientists behind all this. The doctor, the expert so on one hand. We want to hear what he has to say, but on the. The other on the other hand every time he comes on the we're like no, no, no, no, no, no, no because always seems like he's being. He's bringing bad news. Are telling us bad news and we just want to get on a football field and we want to know that we're going to be safe when we do it, but we don't have that certainty yet, and I'm not sure. Sure when that will ever happen so there's so much uncertainty on that level, but as it relates to the raiders, the other uncertainty is houses going to affect the football team because really at the end of the day. That's what we're going to be focused on in twenty twenty. Yes, we're also wonder. Are they going to be fans? In the stands? Players are going to be safe. Let's. Let's assume we get deal with all of those things one way or another and that the players are safe in a season does unfold the question is how will this unprecedented offseason affect the raiders? On some level? It has to affect them right, but for me my biggest concern as it relates to the raiders is. How is this going to affect them defensively? You're talking about five new starters. For the writers and they brought in via free agency, the also had a lot of draft picks that were devoted to the defensive side of the ball. Damon are net a Meek Robertson guys tanner mu skies that they want to expect to have an impact as rookies yet without an off season to get on the field, and all they're doing zooming. All they're doing is is face timing. Trying to teach online, I thought to John Gruden's I. could just teach teach teach teach. He wants to see them on the field, but they're not going to be able to get on the field until training camp, and when you talk about so many new starters defensively on top of the rookies that they're bringing in their counting on. How do they replicate replicate? Building Chemistry, which is what they would be doing right now. I mean these guys can't even watch themselves on practice tape. There is no practice. There was no practice yesterday for guys. Take a look at themselves and say. Footwork look like. What am I drops? Look like was I in the right position was my body in the right position. There's nothing to build off on that. Let alone get on the field together as a unit which they would be doing that right now as we speak in order to build chemistry, build timing get on the same page, and so for those reasons I'm really worried about. About the defense, and it's going to put a lot of onus on the offense to be ahead of the curve. I think the raiders offense will be ahead of the curve, but they're going to have to be at least those first three games of the season because I think that the defense. It's going to take them that time without the benefit of the off season. To be right and to be on the same page in order to hold up their end of the bargain. Healthy Gut means healthy, you favor apple CIDER, vinegar shots bottle this feeling into the convenience of a two shot, better digestion, stronger, immune system and the lowering of blood. Sugar levels are just some of the benefits shooting daily shot their proprietary blends. And organic and mixed with other functional ingredients to create a better tasting experience for time, shooters can go to drink a favor dot com. What Raider fans? In your, and this is Vegas nascent first and ten year Monday. Go to for all related news analysis. Everything under the sun as it relates to the raiders, we talked earlier about how this unprecedented off season was going to affect the raiders defensively and I think that it's going to be a challenge for the defense to get things together without the benefit of off season, and it takes me right to the offense and. Darren. Waller First Year Starter Darren Waller here. Number Eighty three was was did an interview recently, and he basically said the raiders tight end. I think the raiders I think our offense can be a top five offense. This year in the NFL raise a Lotta. WHOA that's that's going out on a limb a little bit, but I gotta say that I agree with Darren while I'm not saying they were going to be a top five offense that's to. For them to bite off, yes, they were eleven the NFL last year in yards. But there are twenty fourth in scoring, so something didn't translate right there. They were very very productive from goal line to go line. They just couldn't put the ball over the goal line enough to to score more than nineteen points a game and that's not going to get it done this year, but Darren Waller believes that they're going to be a top five offense next year and I think the way he's thinking about it. It's not just yards its production and not only do. I. Agree that they are capable of doing it. I think they're going to have to do it and we talked about the defense. In the in the in the first segment of the show about how it's going to be so difficult for them to get on the same page that the offense is probably going to have to that first four games of the season destroyed outscore people, and the thing is I really think. Derek Carr going into his third year in John gruden's offense. The upgrade of Henry, rugs, the dynamic wide receiver from Alabama Lynn Bowden Junior. He's GonNa play running back, but really he's GonNa play all over the field of course, Josh Jacobs Top ten ovens of line Darin Waller Ninety catches over ninety catches over one thousand yards. Jacobs rush running for a rookie record over a thousand yards for the raiders last year. You've got hunter, Renfro who I envision and been told that there's probably going to be Julian Edelman type role for him this year his second year out of the slot. tyrel Williams being healthy dealing with foot issues all last year. He's healthy from what I'm told so he should be better off as a result when you start adding it all up. There's no reason why this raiders offense can't be one of the better offense in the NFL. They were eleven last year in yards gained. In third down conversions where it all broke down for them when they got in the red zone and couldn't score touchdowns on a consistent basis. There's no way. The raiders offense can survive another season of scoring nineteen points a game. It's unacceptable really, but when you look at what they have on paper, and you look at Derek Carr who threw for over four thousand yards last year, the second straight year in doing that going into his thirty eight hundred Jon Gruden Man. There's no excuses that they can't be one of the better offense to the NFL I. Don't know if it's going to be top five, but they better and I think they will score more than. Than Twenty five points per game next year. We're going to be here every Monday from here on out. Talking about everything, raiders related as talked about earlier. Listen man hit me up whenever you want at video bouncing. You're on Twitter Viansa near I review journal Dot Com via email. See me at the stadium allegiance stadium. Come by and say hi. You want to tell me what you WANNA. Talk about asking questions whatever and I. Will I promise you? We'll talk about it on the podcast every Monday. But now we're GONNA go into what we call upon further review. It's a little taken subject Raider subject the NFL subject kind of putting it on the microscope, a little bit and giving you are to sense and for me this. We're going to talk about a little bit of news breaking last week. It was kind of a badly kept secret in in the NFL but Jamal Adams the opera safety of the new. New York. Jets officially requested a trade from the jets. He's not happy with his contract. Everyone's been that's been speculated and talked about for so long, but he finally went to the jets and said Hey. Look trade me, you know if I'm the raiders. The first call I make on Monday morning is to Joe Douglas the general manager of the New York jets. What. What's IT GONNA take to get Jamal Adams, but before we get into that. Do I think the jets are going to trade Adams probably not They have them for two more years at a reasonable rookie contract. He's three point five million this year about nine point five next year last year, his rookie deal, and if you WANNA play it further, they still have him. If if you put the franchise tag into the equation. They've got him for another two years after so realistically. They have them under control for the next four years. However, the NFL, the sports landscape is littered with teams who have said we're not trading you only to turn around and trade that disgruntled player when an acceptable offer. Comes along so there's it's we've seen it happen too many times not to believe that. Hey, if the right off. Came to the jets that maybe they would be interesting I. go right back to the raiders, because this is a player and a time that the raiders need to be involved with a guy like this and you know you say vinny couple of years ago, they had. Khalil, Mack. They traded him rather than pay him. What's the difference now? There's a lot of difference a couple years ago when they looked at the Khalil Mack, situation. He was GonNa make more than twenty million dollars a year. That was a guarantee. The raiders roster was so bad at that point. They're thinking was all right, so do we get give that much money that much of our salary cap to one linebacker. When we have holes across the board offensively defensively, we could go on and on and on sound like they woke up and decided. Hey, we're a better football team without Khalil. Mack know what they decided was what they determined was. We might be better off trading Khalil Mack getting as many draft assets as we can in return and then. Then using the money that we would have given him to fix other holes on the roster. Well guess what that's exactly what the raiders have done the last two years now that roster that was so bad two years ago is now pretty darn good and I think anyway in the process of turning the corner, and not only. Is it a good young roster? It's also cost effective. You got a lot of young players that are playing on their rookie deals. What does that mean well? It means that now you're in a completely opposite situation. You can take a dynamic player like Jamal. Give him sixteen seventeen million dollars a year. If that's what it costs to to to sign him and put him on a defense that is on the come right now you talk about Jill Adams with Jonathan Abram. A second your safety, they expect to make an impact. Cory Littleton, who they signed as a free agent linebacker Nick. Cook Hausky Maliki Collins Y'all what else well they've also got. Max crosby a young dynamic defensive, going into his second year Khalil Ferrall. Who if we are to believe what he said when he left? Last year at the end of last year. Say saying that I'm going to come back a completely different player in your to. If we believe that is going to happen which. Talking to some people feral is in tremendous shape right now, so you expect a set forward from him this year, so you add that trayvon. Molin second year cornerback, their draft picks Damon are net. And Mike Robertson, so you added Jamal Adams a dynamic player to that core, and all of a sudden, that defense that was terrible. Last year has a chance to be pretty darn good I think the time is right I think the roster is right and I think it's time right now for the writer to be aggressive in at least trying to get a Jamal Adams as a say, thank you so much for being part of the. The Inaugural Vegas Nation First and ten It's an honor to be here. I look forward to being here week after week after week. There's GonNa be a lot to talk about their so much uncertainty right now. We're going to get into that as we lead up to training camp, I just look at the calendar and supposedly training camps. GonNa Start in about four weeks bat remains to be seen obviously with cove in nineteen wreaking. Wreaking the havoc that wreaking, but we're very hopeful. That training camp kicks off in four weeks. There's a lot to talk about leading up to that and then obviously wants to get started. What is it gonNA look like how safe for the players are going to be. How much on the fans going to be able to be involved? How quickly can the raiders get on the right page? Get on! The same page is a really important. Important season for the raiders, obviously they're making the move to LAS, Vegas but from a from a standpoint, the important standpoint of winning football games. I think they're poised to do just that a lot of work that Jon Gruden and Mike. Mayock have put in to improving this roster. I believe they've done that. I don't think it's completely done I think there's work that still needs to happen, but is a team when you look around. The rest of the AFC and the rest of the NFL that can move themselves into a position where they can realistically think about making the plan. They're not going to chase down the Kansas. City chiefs this year. That's unrealistic, but I think if things go right and if they can get on that same. Page as quickly as possible. Coming off this weird crazy offseason. They're going to put themselves in a position to log in things and guess what we're going to be here every week to take a look at it. Near, thank you so much. Hit me up whenever you can Hit me up whenever you can. vinnie Monsignor on Twitter Vivant Senior Review Journal dot com on email and also keep an eye out because this isn't. The only raiders podcasts that the Las Vegas Review Journal in Vegas Nation is doing got Heidi. Hang on, Wednesdays keep an eye out for that and my guy. Ed Grainy Adam Hill. They have their own podcast. It's GONNA era on Fridays I'm going to probably be a little bit a part of that every once in a while on Friday, so we're doing everything. Everything, we can to bring the raiders to their fans to Raider. 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Gabe Jackson injured at Raiders camp
"Our concerned obviously really concerned about him but we'll get more information here. We can be specific for football practice without emotion decent some dating. You know a little bit of push. Nobody they just nation presented by sti sports mobile from station casinos. Everyone it's eighty here along with readers beat writer michael belkin and adam hill also on the beat out here napa. It's time for another edition of the vegas. Nation podcast brought to you by s._t._n.'s dan sports mobile stations casino find us online at review journal dot com slash podcast subscribe to the biggest nation podcast on the app vegas nation and also drop us comment. Let us not think we always like hearing that feedback so is like here. We are napa. It's also the home ground for all things h._b._o. Hard knocks but today. I think the big story is that gave jackson a guard is injured and left the field today during the rams joint practice with the raiders michael. What do you know about gabe jackson and this injury. I'm in the middle of working through it as to the exact nature and so to have more information soon but not ready in this current moment to say exactly what it sounds like but gave jackson is obviously a valuable part of this raiders offensive of line. He suffered the injury on thursday morning. In as you mentioned join practice it was a team period teammate incidentally rolled up on them and and it it severed her left knee. Injuries seems so <hes> that is about what we know. There was a silence fell upon a crowd that was so energetic minutes earlier. You know there was offense of line. Raiders off into line versus rams defensive line pass rush period gave jackson aaron donald at the center for for a skirmish it dies down and picks back up with ronnie hudson right in the middle of it hard knocks filling it all. I'm sure that'll be great television next tuesday night and his energy was there on the field on the west side of the field and all of a sudden everything just turned quiet as jackson's evaluated derek carr mike mayock both checking on him as well as rod martin and of course the team's head athletic trainer gets in a car while the offense alignment are watching him. Go away you just you sometimes you see the way a team responds to an injury and it tells you everything you know about a player significance to that team and jackson someone who play okay last season with a partially torn pectoral much of the year ironically suffered that injury against aaron donald in week one last season. He also finished a game with a fractured. The elbow on this guy is as tough as can be so for players to see him on a cart. <hes> one of the most well like guys in the locker room. That was tough for a lot of guys but <hes> you know sometimes there are situations where guys card off and he turns out to be okay. <hes> i think they're based on what i've heard early on. <hes> you know there might i be some hope <hes> but again waiting and seeing because i don't have enough information feel down right now well assuming he is <hes> gravely injured injured and we don't see him back anytime soon. He might miss some games. We already have the guard position kind of dwindling down with incognito suspended with denzil good injured word. They've already brought in a couple guys jonathan cooper so when you and you look at a depth of this line how lo- is getting when it comes to a key starters i wouldn't be surprised if the raiders look outside their building exploring the possibility of a trade to bring someone in here to mitigate the situations at the guard spot. You mentioned the lower back surgery denzel good. You mentioned the suspension richie incognito mito. Theoretically the raiders are entering week one with maybe jonathan cooper at left guard and denver kirk lynn at right guard guard that is not something. I think that will be planning again. If gabe jackson is unavailable not ready to yet to say that he won't be on the field there monday night i football against the denver broncos but theoretically if he would if the injuries severe enough to keep him out then i would expect the raiders to do everything can to address what plan b or losing count plan c. plan d. I think they're going to do something to at least look look <hes> we'll see whether or not a trade is executed but i would not be surprised if that's the case we all saw jordan davey a guy who's more center than guard formerly of the kansas city chiefs he worked. It's a little bit at first team right. Guard might have been something to do with denver kirkland. He was talking with athletic trainer for a period of time. I don't know what that situation. It was negligible because kirk was okay to reenter but it's gonna be interesting to see what this offensive line looks like wine ironically because they've invested so much into this unit and when you're kind of you're referencing there. Is this plan c. Plan d. like what are they on. You got to remember like this is an area of need that they already had to try to address by going out and taking risk on a guy i like richie incognito and saying hey. We need some help in the interior line. We're trying to revamp to bring in trump round on the outside. You're hoping for that big step up from colton miller as well so you're trying to revamp what was a weak spot last year for a variety of different reasons and now you're you're digging deep to try to find help richie incognito missing those first two games. I mean you. I hope that eventually three he'll be back and start solidifying things but man. This is a position you really couldn't afford not to you can never afford injuries but could not afford to keep going down further further and further on the depth chart at guard and now they're in a state where you know i said that earlier. I think it's gonna be okay so you're starting to look around okay. Who's available. Has anybody been cut. Is there anybody out there as any way they can. Come in and help us right away at guard. I mean you need bodies right now just to to get in wraps up practice. You need to start filling in that position but certainly i don't think if you're the raiders are looking around and if this injury is serious enough to have a gave jackson for some time. I don't think you're comfortable as the raiders looking and saying hey we're gonna be okay week one. You're going to start having uh to think about what to do with in that position and as we speak here on a thursday tomorrow's an off day saturday being the first preseason game between the rams and the raiders here here in oakland. My interesting i guess notes from today was that we saw a couple of skirmishes one involving <hes> gabe jackson and aaron donald but that wasn't where he got hurt but <hes> couple skirmishes when you look at it. They're both saying that okay was because the other team felt like they were getting down. Who was it just being chippy. What was going on in these skirmishes from your point of view joining practices. I don't know if i've ever seen a joint practice where tempers weren't flaring where the intensity wasn't brimming to the very top of the pie in sometimes the pot might suddenly dropped back down and but it's always there. It's always this constant. Is this going to be the moment. Is this little shove. After a player this wean gonna turn into a brawl aw and we had a little bit of that i would say i think that's fair. I wouldn't wanna totally <hes> dismissed what we had here on thursday tire romer <hes> <hes> <hes> re with with <hes> former san diego state offense attack on after rookie he had his helmet off at the time when a rams player took a swing at had <hes> and so it was it was pretty pretty physical out there and that's not that's not something that sean mcveigh the rams k. coach or jon gruden wants is to see you know they want it to be spirited and they want it to be competitive in physical but when you have to cut short your defensive linemen off into line pass rush period because there are multiple skirmishes happening that's a problem. You're not getting your work in and that's the whole point of being here yeah. I actually thought i mean like like michael saying these things. These things happen to these practices. I was a little surprised that it didn't happen a little more yesterday. I was surprised that it happened on the field that it did not on on the raiders defense rams offense field of jonathan abrams who can't even take it easy against his own team and he took some shots watching. It was very interesting in that he was. I was really hoping somebody would do something. He kept going after guys after the play kind of get in their face. Get been getting physical with them kind of pushing them a little bit hoping something have i've been at one point one of the rams receivers shove them away and he's like all right enough and then everyone's like all right. Now we go now. We could go like he wanted to get something on but it wasn't going to happen and then you look around the other field and it goes down but listen to those those things do happen. I think it was interesting that mcveigh decided <hes> he's usually over with the offense he decided to hang out with the defense a little bit here and make sure that it doesn't go any further other <hes> it did it toned down after that and they got their the work in that they wanted to do but certainly you know. You expect to see a little bit of that. When there's joint practices didn't happen yesterday happened a little bit today a <hes> i think he just kind of move on from that place saturday and you're gonna see guy saturday that are not the stars that are guys that are trying to make teams and i don't think anything like this bubbles over because those guys i have too much on the line saturday to really worry about what was going on today or trying to settle scores or anything like that when we have the rams on wednesday the first thing that happened <hes> win when derek carr through pass was intercepted it. So how concerned should we be now. The the line is kind of falling apart. You have a couple injuries to wide receivers. We saw <hes> y ryan grant <hes> day to day with the back injury. You know obviously a b. is still not there. That's probably becoming more and more of a concern <hes> tyrone carol williams but when you start thinking about depth that the offensive line injuries piling up do we have concern right now for this offense. I mean i think especially on that and listen to that intersection. Yesterday was <hes> as carr explained it afterwards. He said hey listen. It was the first first first rap i was just ended up there see if he can go make a play and this kind of setting the tone for the rest of the day and that's a play i think if you look at it back it was it was that's exactly what it was. He threw in coverage to throw. I don't think he makes all the time. I think he was just just trying to put it up there and see what happened. Tyrone williams go and do something and i wouldn't. I certainly wouldn't read a whole lot into that. <hes> that's just kind of something that you know you're working on and the and the <hes> practice and he got by it and he actually made some good throws the rest of the way but yeah i think as you get into this and you start to develop. I know that they want to have antonio brown out there. He changes is it on amick of everything that they do change the dynamic of how the defense approaches them and everything else out there but he's he's building things. I've been very impressed with tyrone williams this week. I think he's looked really really good. I know jon gruden. His sang praises so has <hes> derek carr after practices about how he looks out there. I think some of the other guys we saw certainly fascism j._j. Nelson the last couple of days days and he's been very involved all over the field a little bit so <hes> i think the passing game looks like it's going to be okay. I mean the office of line certainly is where it all begins and if there is no concerns injury wise coming out of today then that will be a factor but <hes> they wanna tony o'brien out there. They want to get that rhythm going. They want him to work with those other guys. They can then find and their role a little bit but i haven't really been concerned about anything. I've seen out of the passing game. Let's talk about feet. I yeah i agree with that. I am that i think the passing game has looked okay but i think adam would agree with me to antonio. Brown doesn't get here passing game. It's just gonna be okay. It's going to be just okay <hes> they need him in order to take this whole thing. I don't just mean the offense. I mean this season to the next level. That guy has it sort of impact on the building on a game on offense and opposing defenses. He's the difference maker without him. Uh there have been some nice pieces. I think tyrel has look nice. I think j._j.'s look nice. I think darren waller looks nice but if you don't have antonio brown it's not going to be good enough in order to have these high scoring games that i think many people project the raiders. We're gonna have to have given the very much construction zone sign on their defense. Didn't development have some pieces in place but it's not a finished product on defense. We have a lot of questions about the pass rush and so it's offense needs to be high octane and with jon gruden in year two and the scheme comfort. I'm i come to that for derek carr and tyrone williams and with the offensive line and tackle play that seems to be <hes> confidently better than last year. You are no doubt <hes> the running game with josh shakeups and there's a lot here but in order for it to be the bar is very high when you're talking about what it's gonna take to keep up with teams in a._f._c. west like the chiefs and like chargers and so i am telling you brown. He's gotta get back here. I if i was the place wasted bet i would say we see him next week. I think he's gonna be back practicing next week with the fact that he has missed that we eleven twelve ten eleven collection practices but he was out there for that one that it was is it a case of it not being that severe in people's minds i. I don't think it's just the foot that got a problem right now for him and we're just steps away. Maybe from seeing him. Let's move onto the first preseason game. Who where do you think the biggest position compatible be right now boy. You know i know exactly what adam hills gonna say and i want you to say i'm gonna. I'll started off the partner well. I mean you know me too. Well already from this week. I'm obsessed with the punter battle for sure and listen in my mind. I'll say i've i'm obsessed sex with her battle. I'm watching the punters all day every day as they rotate stretching right there i know even when they're walking on the field. I told you some reports of what i've been watching but but here's the thing. I don't think there's any question is the punter. That's not the only question in this battle. Though i mean obviously that they have to hold so that's certainly going to be a factor in this in this battle because <hes> johnny townsend was so effective last year as a whole there was as as you've said several times it was the the most accurate unit in raiders history in terms of field goal so they don't want to mess with that continuity but a._j. Cole has just thrived and you heard again today with with jon gruden unsolicited pointing out how good a._j. Coal wasn't johnny take good day yesterday one of the best days i've seen him a._j. Holders didn't want better. I'll pass passes on and i tweeted about it. Because of course that's all i care about but a._j. Whole the came out to make his first part today the ram special teams coaches were telling their returner move back at six. I moved back so they knew he was gonna kick it further and then on a dead sprint the returner could not run back and get the ball it was it went all the way out of the end zone on from inside the raiders on twenty. That was just a blast of apart now. The other ones weren't as good. That's one of the best parts i've ever seen but man. He is having a phenomenal capsule. I'll be watching that the battle for sure but listen. That's not the one that most people will be watching. I think there's there's positions battlefield. I think the backup quarterbacks in interesting. We're not gonna see car on saturday so yo- peterman's going to get out there and have his chance and he's a punchline but gruden has said he liked him. I think that was a lot about building confidence but you know who gets that backup quarterback job between glennon peterman glenn and certainly veteran has had more success in the league but peterman a young guy with potentially upside even though he hasn't shown in the league it <hes>. I think that's an interesting battle to me yeah. We're on the street is your boy a._j. Cold's what is it gonna do some kickoffs. This preseason heard that yeah heard that that'd be fun. I've watched. I've let me tell you something. His onside kicks are incredible. I watched him practicing those a little bit so watch out for that as well thick man a for police just staring at special teams drills. I think they're gonna ask me to leave. I think that's why i probably i'm getting out of napa. Yeah i said jerry is not going to be playing. A lot of starters aren't gonna be playing this game and there's really no need for them. To the joint practices controlled controlled environment raiders coaches tell a whole lot about where their starters are do wanna see some of the younger players backup quarterbacks your punters perform in a game aim setting and so no doubt we're going to have our eyes on a number of guys who are competing for jobs competing for roles one position group group as a a whole it just seeing this rookie class. You know we would expect to see quentin bell a rookie seventh round pick who's only had a couple practices. Maybe they hold them back but he's like explosive on on the field very interested to see these cornerbacks trayvon molin second round pick a l._s._u. Isaiah johnson someone who's in the fourth round <hes>. There's a number of guys is your hunter renfro. We've seen be interested in renfro got the star treatment that might tell us something. Sometimes you can learn more about who doesn't play than you. You learn about what the people who are playing are actually doing and so <hes> preseason exciting the only game in oakland this month because the raiders other home game is in winnipeg adams favorite city in a ten mile radius greatest winnipeg <hes> yeah actually there's a really good coffee shop about fifteen minutes outside of town. That's all i can say positive about pick a place. I've been four times the last two years in a raiders if you're looking at going to that game don't arizona instead seven nights time down then one of my favorite snap as i've really feel like i'm bonding with them hill. We're great experience sharing <hes> <hes> house situation napa next to a golf carts. It's lovely. There's no there's no internet signal <hes>. Actually we got there and the people who do you know run this property. I didn't pay their cable bill and so we were out the internet you've experienced and then yeah it's it's nice. It's it's called time a lot of time for just playing scrabble and amish nepomucene so what has been the most meaningful experiences. I am bonding experience that you have been so far as a whole foods the salad bar a pretty. That's pretty much it. This is the only place by the way i've ever seen with. The trader joe's right next door to a whole foods. It's like serious competition. Speaking of position battles we will look forward to all of the position battles here from readers camping again you can and follow along with adam and michael at adam hill l._v. r._j. At gilpin n._f._l. And i am at heidi fang and don't forget get that vegas nation app. We have all the information formation uploading there that you need from raiders training camp and around the n._f._l. Find all the latest episodes of vegas nation on vegas nation dot com or online at review journal dot com slash podcast. We are brought to you by s._d._n. 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Can't Stop Lamar Jackson? Hire an Impersonator.
"It feels like those that are playing in for the first time pretty much the reaction to the same every single time. You hear these guys shower. Praise and Lamar Jackson explosive. Guy On film L. Dynamic runner and then after the game they're like dude. I had no idea we completely miscalculated. Just how dynamic of a player he is. There are some things that just can't be duplicated fingerprints snowflakes Marvin Gaye rendition of the national anthem at the nineteen eighty three NBA all star game. Now there's another thing on the list. The freakish combination of skill smarts and athleticism possessed assessed by Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson today. ESPN's Ravens reporter. Jamison Hensley breaks down the ways in which Lamar's opponents have tried need to find players who can replicate his talents as they prepare to face the NFL's deadliest weapon. I mean at times it's Wednesday January very eighth this is espn daily presented by Dell. Small Business. Jason I'm I'm doing better than Dean pees the Titans Defensive Coordinator because I do not have to game plan for Lamar Jackson all season long. James and we've been talking about how difficult it it is to stop this ravens offense. How teams are efforting to suit against him? But that process begins at the start of every week I for these. NFL teams. They tried to put a plan and they try to replicate the offense with their scout team. Can you explain why that's so difficult. Yeah Yeah it's a complicated answer for a lot of teams and it starts with that. The rains have so many different personnel groupings. They can go three wide. They can go empty backfield or they they can put in three tight ends and fullback in just muscle up against you then you also have to contend with the various motions. No no team in the. NFL runs more pre-start emotions than the Baltimore Ravens and then when the ball snapped you have to find the ball once you actually find where the ball is Kinda termine where it is going. If it is in the hands of Lamar Jackson. Well then good luck with that because he is the fastest player on this field. And if you're one on one against him he fake you out and then you become you know a highlight on sportscenter for the whole night. So yeah there's a lot of things to contend with but it really boils down with nobody can really mimic Lamar Jackson athleticism. The first part of what you described the personnel groupings. The Pre snap deception all of that. Those are things coaches are responsible for instilling their players. But the more Jackson side of it seems to me to be very difficult to prepare for. What have some teams done? Well first they kind of look at their scout team and they're like okay can their quarterback that they have on the scout team or their third quarterback on the roster. Can they mimic what Lamar Jackson or even get into into the realm of what Lamar Jackson can do. And for the most part it's no and so then they go okay. Who's the best athlete on the Scout Team? And a lot of times it could be a wide receiver. It can be a returner. You've seen teams resort to a former quarterback in the alliance of American football. They've gone onto your former college. quarterbacks run kind of the wildcat and they've even resorted to calling an ice fisherman in South Dakota wait an ice fisherman is his name is Taryn Christian and he formerly played quarterback at South Dakota state. Home whom of the Jack Rowell's quarterback keep after the banker rattle busy to the External Christian. The all time leader for South Dakota go to St doubt total offense and it's six nothing favor of the. Why did they call him in particular? Well I mean he does have speed four five at his pro day. He spent some time in training camp with the cowboys. He was quickly out of leak. He went back to Sioux Falls. But he's an avid outdoorsman store's been he likes ice fishing he likes duck hunting and then out of the blue he gets a call from Mike Tomlin just few days for the steelers had their first game. Mm Against Lamar Jackson in the Ravens back in early October it was actually in my haircut called aspect this morning. Got here about ten minutes. Greg started got changed in Got US I explain to you what they were looking for you. This week you Scout team stuff You know mobile quarterback playing the Ravens. So Lamar Mark Jackson just running around a little bit slinging things on on Scott team so far. How did he handle playing Lamar? He actually did a pretty good job. I mean they they weren't gonNA put Devlin Duck. Hodges out there so I guess they were trying to find another doctor so they eh. They went and they brought in Tehran and he kind of anticipated was going to be just a short stint that he was going to be there. Lamar Jackson for the week. The players in the locker room almost conceded that because many of referred to him as Lamar. Not Taryn Chris. So yeah he took it all in stride overall. He did a pretty good job. Because is in that game. It was The Ravens won in overtime against the steelers. But Lamar Jackson. He threw three interceptions. He did turn it on at the end to to pull out the victory but it will rank as one of Lamar's worse games of the season Games in as you're telling me about him. I'm thinking of a hunter named Brock Miller who is left-footed and told me once that he would get signed repeatedly throughout the season by NFL teams. Who are about to play the Patriots because they always have left footed punters hunters? Did that end up happening with Christian. No no he didn't get another call and after just two days after the steelers game he did get cut cut probably had thoughts of. Hey maybe he could be the Lamar standing for a lot of these teams. He did not get a call. Did Not get signed for the rest of the regular season and rate great now he got signed to the XFL and he is trying to make that league properly. Lamar's worst game of the season was the first game against the browns round where they lost. The browns coordinator Steve wilks was asked about how he was preparing for the game. And this is what he had to say. Our tax plan men who Dania Guess But the browns actually use matt got into prepare for Lamar. I don't actually think so. But I mean as everything with the Cleveland browns you cannot say definitively no but coach Freddie Kitchens. At that time I said in a press conference they used a few guys to Mimic Lamar with a couple of different guys playing Odell played him scouting quarterback. You just don't believe me. I know people with the browns thought. They weren't using Odell Beckham Junior enough but obviously they were maybe not as much as a wide receiver but they were using him in practice to Mimic Lamar Jackson. And you could tell I mean. He's an athletic guy out there making those one handed catches but I think really the talent especially the skill set would really translate to Lamar Jackson so the Ravens have played some pretty pretty good defenses with very good coaches in November. They went up against New England and of course bill. Belichick is the master of game planning. And he he had this to say about Lamar. Before the game to simulate the speed with which they execute the problem of course on another quarterback in the league like this how do you get one jamison. What can teams do win? They don't have have a single player with a skill. Set that replicates Lamar. It's funny because the best scout team quarterback that anyone could have for Lamar is actually the Ravens and that Robert Griffin the third so Knowing we did they signed him in the off season because he can run this ravens offense in case something would happen to Lamar but they also took away from other teams a guy that could probably replicate Lamar Jackson best in in in their practices. You it's almost like almost monopolized the dual threat quarterback position and you mentioned Bill Belichick. I try to ask ask him you. Who are you gonNA play Lamar Jackson in your scout team? You know. He didn't disclose who would be but obviously did not work wherever they chose because the rains. Let's put up thirty seven points against that Bill Belichick defense that a lot of people thought was going to be a very historic one at the time Coming up can the Titans actually learn anything from Amar Jackson's playoff defeat last year Espn daily we tell the stories of the world's greatest teams coach Bill Championship teams with players uniquely qualified for the roles. That's why you need indeed for Your Business. Indeed provides tools like skills tests to help candidates. Show the perfect hire for you post a job at indeed indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily and try skills tests for free that's indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily terms conditions. Exclusions apply apply as teams have resorted to desperate measures to prepare how they failed. Yeah it's funny. 'cause they do they they try their hardest to find somebody who is fast enough somebody who can also at least throw the ball a little. Oh Bet to give their defense good looks the bengals. They had a scout team wide receiver. Trenton Irwin and and he was going out to practice and they go. You know your your Lamar Jackson today and so the kind of throat Adam. A little bit and didn't really last long. He got out there he he said about three or four plays. He tried emotion one of the wide receivers to do like a jet sweep. He called for the snap too early. The snap hit the wide receiver her and they said. Okay Trenton. You're you're no longer Lamar Jackson. That's kind of precision part of it. Where the Ravens when they snapped the ball I it's they always had these guys moving and it's sometimes very close to the ball okay? You're watching the guys in motion but you're trying to locate the ball. It's very difficult difficult to do that. In Trenton Irwin found that out firsthand. They threw Andy Dalton in his place. And I'm going to guess that Andy Dalton this year it was probably the slowest of the march accent. Mimics out there. What about the bills? Didn't they have a little bit of inside information on the more they they they used Ray Ray McLeod and he has a very interesting connection and back story with Lamar Jackson. In McLeod's roommate at Clemson was Oakland. Raiders cornerback Trayvon Molin. Who is Jackson's cousin? So trying to keep it in in the family a little bit. Also McLeod's background. He ran the forty yard dash in four point five seconds. He also quarterback the read option offense in high school you saw throughout the week. The Bills Defenders Really Complement McLeod for. We're giving them a good look and it really turned out in the game. Because the bills held Lamar Jackson to forty yards rushing and that's that's his lowest output on the grounds outside of that first game against Miami when he threw five touchdowns didn't really even try to run the ball so I thought the bills defense contained Lamar Jackson at least running better than anybody else else this season. I think my favorite scout team quarterback to play Lamar. This season has been John. Wolford the rams practice squatter wake AAC forced Alan by the way. They beat Lamar Jackson and Louisville in college. Now when it was revealed that he was going to be Lamar. It was a bit derided. Here's what coach Sean. mcvay had to say. John do a great job for us and we'll see if he's got he'd found some extra speed tweet. This week I'd like to say that's unfair because I actually called the Rams preseason games and John Wolford can scoot right. He actually had an amazing amazing three cone. Time unfortunately didn't work out so well for the rams. No the ravens routed. Those rams forty five to six on Monday night and I like to call that allows Lamar's Hollywood moment you're playing in the coliseum. You see the Hollywood sign in the background. You the first player in Monday night. Football to make his debut. And throw five touchdown touchdown passes to magical. I think that was the night when everyone kind of said you know what Lamar Jackson is winning the MVP right now. Afterwards Eric. Weddell the Ram safety who used to play for the Ravens was asked about poor. John Wolford efforts on the scout team whether whether they help the defense and this is what he had to say. Well Yeah I mean. I don't know what you guys keep thinking. He ran the scout team for us. You can't emulate it are you gonNA practice it. Lamar's Mars the fastest guy on the field. I kid you not like I wouldn't let you guys go half the time. I didn't know who had the ball until they were getting through line. I had to go tackle. Comb the Rams Riesling let their defensive coordinator Wade Phillips go now Wade as you know is a legend around this league bill. Belichick is a legend. Perhaps the greatest defensive coach in. NFL history. What does it say about Lamar that those two coordinators couldn't figure out a way to stop him? Yeah I think it just shows that Lamar Jackson is just a generational talent. Winning kind came into the League. People said Oh could he be the next Michael Vic and I think early last year. And maybe we're only the season you could say. Okay Yeah you you can compare him to that. But I mean he has shattered vicks rushing rushing record he is thrown more touchdown passes than Vikas ever thrown in a CD. So more passing yards. I don't think that comparison even holds up right now now to have a player who can run and throw the ball like Lamar Jackson. That's just something that the league just hasn't seen you mentioned that during being in the style in the week preparing coaches have to get their defense is ready for all of the various right but watching the Mar- play sometimes you see linebackers. Packers make the correct read and he's still beats them. It's like a choose your own adventure book where every option leads to a horrible death. There's no right answer her. It is and and that's the thing I mean. I think turn Matthew said earlier this year when you go against Lamar Jackson. It's almost you have to be a little a bit more patient and it's hard to do that in the open field against him but you don't want to go and attack because he always has a counter move. It's almost almost. You have to wait for him to make his move and then react to him so this weekend in the divisional round the Ravens will be hosting the Tennessee. NFC Titans Lamar's second postseason game. Jamieson you remember. The first one didn't go so well Baltimore lost to the chargers who notoriously Ashley defended the Ravens with seven defensive backs on the field mostly because the chargers were so banged up and until the fourth quarter. The Ravens Office. Really couldn't get much going. Do you think the titans might try to replicate that. In some way I think it will be a little difficult and the reason. I say that it is one big difference from last year's playoff game to this year is Lamar Jackson. He's just become a better passer. And in that chargers game he completed just three passes asses in the first three quarters at one point in the second half he had zero point zero passer rating. He's obviously improved. In that regard the other aspect they got to remember is is that the rains added Mark Ingram agents. He was their their number one target in free agency. They that's the guy that they said. Entering this off season. They wanted and the reason they wanted him so badly was because he brings just that tenacious physical aspect to the running game in between the tackles. And if you try to put seven seven defensive backs with Mark Ingram runs. He's GonNa run all over you so I would be very hesitant for any defense to use that strategy against Moore Jackson Timpson. You've watched as much. Lamar Jackson has anyone at this point. What would you do? It's because it's an impossible question clearly but what would you do to stop him. The only way you can beat. Lamar Jackson Jackson is to get a lead warning. And I don't know if that really answers the question but you need to jump out and get a lead and that is very difficult to do because the ravens are so good good in scripting their plays and that's why they have outscore teams by so much in that first word they rarely rarely trail in that first first half but if a team can jump out even to scores or seventeen to nothing what you do. Is You force Lamar Jackson into become more predictable. And then in your mind you're going. Okay Lamar Jackson is going to have to throw the ball and you kinda take away the running element a little bit but you also have to score against the Ravens Defense and the rains defense number four in the league their top scorer against as well so everybody guys you heard it here first. I the way to stop the mark. Jackson is to outscore. Thanks Jason Thank you and coming up with the latest. NFL coaching hires. Tell us about the state of diversity leak New Year new budgets. Every small business has unique needs when you partner with a Dell Small Business Technology advisor you get real time tailored advice you'll even give you a free audit on your servers and storage devices to develop a custom solution solution to help improve your company's productivity plus right now upgrade to windows ten and get up to forty five percent off select business computers with Intel core processors officers to speak with Adele adviser call eight seven seven by Dell. That's eight seven seven by Dell. Here's here's another story. I want you to know on Tuesday to. NFL teams announced that they had picked their next head coach. The Carolina Panthers Selected Baylor head coach map rule and the giants who reportedly also going after roll with Patriots Wide Receiver coach. Joe Judge a scoop. All fans process the news and and in some cases I'm guessing learned that judge exists a number of analysts for players and fans pointed out that after these latest hires. Just three of the leaks. Six head coaches Pittsburgh's Mike Tomlin allies Anthony Lynn. In Miami's Brian Flores are black as opposed to seventy percent of the players. Now there's at least one spot open. The Cleveland. Browns haven't announced replacement for fired head coach Freddie Kitchens yet but it's evident that after the ranks of non white head coaches grew for years. Here's hitting eight not too long ago. They've since rapidly declined this fall. Richard Lap tick the director of the Institute for Diversity and Ethics in sport. Publishes Publishes Annual Report on the issue and gave the NFL its lowest grade since he started collecting data fifteen years ago. Now I imagine there are people who are hearing this and saying to themselves teams should be allowed to hire the best possible candidates and I absolutely agree but I'm not sure that's happening four years ago. Oh I wrote about a study from professors at Georgetown. George Washington emery in Iowa state who found that white position coaches in assistance or more than twice as likely to be promoted to coordinator roles regardless of their background given that many of the coaches promoted since then have a market lack of experience rule for example spent very little time in the NFL and judge was most recently a position coach. I would be surprised if that's changed now. This doesn't mean. NFL teams are actively seeking seeking to discriminate against qualified candidates. The reasons for these things as is the case in fields outside of sports are insidiously complex in football all the roots of the problem can be traced to college where the numbers aren't much better or even lowest levels of the sport networks also play a role and so do trends. NFL teams. These are more likely than ever to hire offensive minded head coaches and there were just two black offensive coordinators. This season one of him the chiefs Eric. The enemy would seem to merit narrative closer. Look from Cleveland. But just because the factors behind the absence of diversity at the league's highest levels can be difficult to untangle doesn't mean we shouldn't try and above all acknowledged that the gap exists and this has been E._s._p._N.. Daily I'll talk to you tomorrow.
RTCD #176: Bowl Recaps
"Warriors cell phone code one strike and listen to Russ Ducker Philadelphia. Those film junkie friend up a breakdown, the top college prospects on another tasty edition of the college draft. Yes, it is daddy soda time. And it is Tuesday January first two thousand nineteen which means there are a bunch of ballgames later today. But we want to really focus as much as possible on the college football playoff semifinal games that took place on Saturday as well as giving you a preview of the national championship game. Monday night, obviously loaded with dude loaded with NFL prospects that you need to be able to check out and know exactly who you're looking at what you're looking at. We are presented by bed. Online dot AG us. The promo code podcast one. You get a fifty percent. Welcome bonus. He's fran. Duffy these superstar video scouting guru for the Philadelphia. Eagles back in the playoffs. Again. Make sure you're checking out Fran on Twitter. He's at f Duffy three I'm at Ross Tucker NFL, former NFL offensive lineman bunch of media gigs bunch of podcasts journeymen player that loves college. Football loves breaking down. Biggest players biggest games will obviously get to the news. Because there's a a lot of news that has happened since last week's show and just a reminder for all the teams that didn't make the play. This is the podcast for if your team didn't make the playoffs. This is the only gash need to listen to to get ready for the NFL draft, which will be here before you know, it. Fran happy new year. Glad we're keeping it rolling here. Heading into the two thousand nineteen draft. And let's start with Notre Dame. And Clemson and just what your big takeaways were from that. Well, I I happy new year to you Ross and Brian and everybody else out there. I think the big thing for me Notre Dame, Clemson really impressed with just the young town for Clemson. Trevor Lawrence is the the second straight true freshman quarterback in the playoff to really impress. Obviously last year. It was Jake from from Georgia Trevor lots more so this year. I mean what he's done over the course of the second half of this season. And then in the playoff against Notre Dame. I mean, the kid looks poise he's athletic. He's got arm town. I'm excited to continue studying him, obviously, not eligible until the twenty twenty one draft. But really impressed with him the other freshman Justin Ross wide receiver was so hot early in this game. Made a lot of plays down the field of big kid who can run a little bit. And. Travesty N who has been a workhorse for this Tigers offense over the course of the season. He's got some juicy kind of solve open up their late in the game with that long run down the left sideline. But a really impressive runner that will be eligible for next year's draft out twenty nineteen but for twenty twenty so ET N named keep an eye on for the future with the one guy who who stood out Ross, I didn't know too much about. It's funny. I watched a little bit of Clemson this morning. And he continued to stand out was Isaiah Simmons a converted safety turn into a linebacker number eleven showed up in a lot of different ways in that game. So Isaiah Simmons is a guy that I've added now to my watchlist based off of this game. I was really impressed with them. And then the other side, I mean Notre Dame, you know, they just got overcome with injuries. And, you know, Julian love the talented corner who a lot of people feel will declare for this draft. He was hurt for most of this game. Khalid Korean the talented pass rusher. Aloha Gilman the transfer safety from navy who did come back and and had a forced fumble late in the game. But a guy who was very active Hughes in and out of the lineup. And then authencity I mean, Ian book just never looked comfortable at quarterback was dropping his eyes had a lot of bad decisions with the football, do not even plug classes where he let go but just stuff where he the boss should have come out, and it didn't then Dexter Williams. They just couldn't get them going. The talented senior running back couldn't get him going against the towns and Clemson front and Clemson was able to to make them pay. It was it wa-. It wasn't a good game in terms of being competitive. Put interesting with all the young town that stood out of both sides of the ball for the Tigers. And you know, friend, I'll add to that. It was disappointing and the injuries nerd aim. We're disappointed, although I will say it seem like more of the more outlet defenses. Nerd aims had hadn't while you know, they have guys at all three levels that were pretty impressive. Although the two things to me from the game one is E T N bounced outside he came. Up the middle on a run. And there was a single high safety for nerd aim. The he was leaning a little bit to the strong side. But he was still in the middle of the field. Maybe maybe like imaging the garden tackle to the right Fran. He couldn't lay a hand on T N. I mean, I'm not saying, okay. He couldn't make the tackle. He couldn't lay. He didn't get a hand on them. Like, I mean, that's not good. That's just a big big difference. If you're free safe in the middle of the field cannot get a hand on the other teams running back when he's like fifteen yards deep. That's bad. You might disagree. It's what I wrote about in my column this week for the athletic to me. It's really ridiculous that Trevor Lawrence cannot enter the NFL till twenty twenty one. I mean, he's playing in twenty eight and I saw Dan Roloff ski and Brian Baldinger saying. You know, maybe he would be the number one pick in this draft. I don't know about that. I don't know how you feel about that. But my point is is I understand that the rules in place to protect guys that would make bad decisions. But I feel like we're seeing more and more Fran every year like Ed Oliver, Nick Bosa. I mean, there's a decent amount of guy. They didn't have to go back to college football this year. You know, what I mean like they they were ready to go to the NFL. They were ready to be drafted. And I just I guess I just believe in freedom of choice. And I'm just curious. I mean, we have no idea because they're not really scouting them. But I kind of feel like Trevor Lawrence if he actually could go pro would probably go pretty high friend. Yeah. It's tough for me to say just because I haven't studied them in that way. But you know, I just feel especially a quarterback like there's nothing better than than getting reps and getting experience like there's no there's nothing more valuable than that. You know, how much better would Trevor Lawrence be next year? If you're were playing for the. Jacksonville Jaguars are fewer planning for the New York shy. It's like, I don't know. It's obviously we can't answer that question. But to me like, I always lean especially at quarterback for a guy to go back and just get more reps like for and that's without having studied them. That's kind of where my you know, my opinion rests, but that's just of how I feel especially at that position. So let's get to the other game. And that was our Bama an Oklahoma. And the thing is out to me about that friend is just Ella bama's depth. I mean, it's just it's just obscene. Yeah. I mean, like we go into this game, and you expect it's like all right? You have Jerry Judy who on the bulletin cough. A war done Henry rubs the third expect. Jalen Waddell, the burner. You know, the tight end our Smith junior. No, they come out. I play the game. Devante Smith goes for fifty yards gets them into the red zone. And then they score a touchdown. It's machine to gets on the board. He looked healthy. By the way. I know he's there was report now that he's feeling sore on that ankle but looked healthy during the game. And it just goes to show you like the weaponry that this offense has and that's why it's it's just different. I wrote this going into the game Ross that you know, you would expect like in years past Alabama, Oklahoma. Alright Oklahoma wants us to be attract meet they want this to be a high scoring game. Alabama wants this to be you know, a twenty one is seventeen game and the and the win. That's not the case with this Alabama team. That's why it's just different this group than any other group that they've ever really put out there under Nick, saving and that they will put up fifty points. And and not not really blink. Like if you wanna if you run the run with them toe to toe like they can play that game. If you wanna grind it out. They'll play that game too. So it's it they're just a different animal, man. This year is just a very special offense. Obviously to the scheme is very good with Mike Loxley who the lose to university of Maryland, but all the death. Like, you said you look at running back Damian Harris had two touchdowns in this game. Josh Jacobs continue. It's to impress. It seems like he's going to be declaring for the draft. That's according to our guy, Tony Pauline. He has mentioned that over on the journey of the draft podcast Jacobs. Has flashed I'm excited to study his film, obviously, not a senior. So I haven't gotten to them yet. But big kid looks fluid in the dodgy Harris, the true sophomore not eligible for this class. But as also flashed as well, then, you know for Oklahoma. They got off to a slow start my Rockies Brown, obviously, not healthy, you could tell he was really just kinda hampered by that injury Cuyler Murray. Really didn't get grew into a groove until like the midway through the second quarter. Maybe so a little bit of a slow start for him. The guy though that really stats me with CD lamb. I mean, they the kid brought it from the first snap to the final. Whistle. You deep balls fade routes. They used him to attack Patrick ser tan, though, the true freshman corner on the right side, especially late in the game in the second half late some big blocks in the game. I mean CD-rom he did it all I I was impressed with his performance. I'm excited to study him in the future as well. Yeah. I would say some takeaways for me the depth of Alabama. We talked about it. I mean, all the wide receivers all the running backs. I mean, our guy Dane Brugge ller from the athletic. He is Josh Jacobs. I think is number one running back. Yeah. I saw that. Yep. It's unbelievable. And this is a guy that I don't even know Fran. If I'd ever heard a Josh shake it was before this year. I mean, I knew Damian Harris and I knew Najji hairs from last year. And he was in the army bowl a couple years ago. I don't really remember Josh Jacobs. Even doing that much last year. He was only he was only a three star recruit processing, what would you expect got? They just like they just turn out these five star kids that all. Yeah. Like, David Harris was like the most unheralded five-star, I would venture to guess that Damian Harris is the most unheralded five star number one running back in the country. To start three years and the SEC much less for the number one team every year like in the history of college football like. It's crazy. Just how much blue chip talent. They turn out. So it's easy for us to kind of look over a guy like Josh Jacobs. Put your I mean, the guy has been really really impressive. I'm excited study. I mean, you you say like is like gain have him as the number one back. A lot of people have Daming hires says the no not just the number one senior potentially one of the number one backs as well. So it's a it's a really good group. It's a really really good team. And so the only other two things I would mention about Clinton Williams is unbelievable. He I mean, he might be the number one pick in the draft is really really impressive. And I was a little disappointed. Maybe underwhelmed would be the right word by the Oklahoma offensive line. I guess I was just I I had high expectations after they won the Joe more award. I I thought they would play a little bit better than they did. And I didn't think Kyla Murray. It was not not his best showing. Although he's better in the in the second half. What about friend? And some of the notable news because there's been a lot of it. Probably the biggest thing is just in. Herbert staying in Oregon, and I'll just chime in on this. I friend. I'm thrilled for him. It's a very personal decision. I'm I'm happy that he made what he wants to do with his life. I think it's impossible to argue that it's a good business decision because there's very little upside if you're already considered the number one quarterback, and he's taking on a lot of risk, but there's more to life than just business or money. He enjoys the college experience, clearly he's from Oregon his brother's going. They're going to be a freshman wide receiver. So I get it. And as I've said before and I've written about before, you know, I I'd probably pay a lot of money Honey right about now. Fran for another year of college. That sounds pretty awesome actually to be able to be. In college for another year. So I I don't blame him. I guess, but I don't think it's very good business decision. I, you know, kind of going off the Trevor Lawrence discussion like I'm perfectly fine with it. And I'm happy. I'm glad that he is. I've said that since the summer he was my number one quarterback coming into the season ahead of guys like drew lock and we'll rear and all those guys. But I thought I I said last year in the summer, I hope he comes back for his senior year like barring him being just completely lights out this year, which obviously was and he's a very talented kid. We've talked about on numerous times, and we've talked about this topic numerous times I'm glad he's going back because he still has big areas that he can continue to grow in his game. And, you know, just having another year, the, you know, one of the big knocks the you're hearing about him is is he the alpha male in the locker room is he that guy that can command an NFL team. Well, he's got another year now that he can go in and be the guy for the the Oregon ducks and continue to lead that team kind of assert himself. You know as that guy. So I. To me like that's going to be one of the big things. And when you talk to people around the league, and the, of course, this is more old school thinking, but you talk to people around the league that have been around it for a while. And they'll say that was one of the big things with Peyton Manning going back for his final year, Tennessee, one of the big things for even Andrew luck. Going back for his final year at Stanford that, you know, going back they really kind of focused on themselves and really try to make themselves that feel general both on and off the field that they need to be to be the face of the franchise. I would think that's one of the things that Justin Herbert will be working on this offseason. So first responders bowl, Boston College, Boise state debt got cancelled doodoo lightning. I mean, I'm curious your opinion on that. Well, that to me the big thing for that. Is that this completely validates any player that decides he wants to skip a ballgame? Like because I felt like you know, what seven nothing first-quarter like. Yeah, we got some lightning. We're we're gonna call this one guy. So I mean like any guy that decides they want to skip? Ballgame like to me that validated that you know, ANZAC Allen left the game with an ankle injury. Hopefully, he's fine for the senior bowl. But to me that was the big takeaway from that on Friday. Mark richt at Miami. That's craziness the whole thing with Mark richt. And Manny Davis at Miami is insane. Yes. A mock retires, and I go when I go into our show run down. I'm like, all right. Let's talk about Mark regard. Who are the Miami guys that could declare the draft. Now again, that's where my head always goes within twenty four hours. Manny Diaz is the head coach leaves temple where he just, you know, been signed as the head coach like a week ago and goes and he goes back to Miami. So the big thing look Travis Homer, the running back has already declared. We'll see if many tries to get come back. I don't know if Homer side of the agent, and it's in it's too far gone at this point already venza Bulwer the offensive lineman, a transfer of Tennessee, he also declared. So the question now becomes you know? Yeah, there's some continuity there especially on defense with Manny Diaz are there any other offensive players in the underclassmen ranks that could declare from Miami. I don't necessarily think. So I think now you're looking on defense is Joe Jackson shack coordination. I think Michael Pinkney already said that he's. Going back, but Maliki young the corner. There's obviously there's other guys are they going to declare for the draft. And they feel like they wanna stay Manny Diaz president potentially could keep them. But we'll see that's just something to keep an eye on there. And then the other big one, it looks like, you know, major Applewhite the head coach Houston was fired. And it seems all the reports going into New Year's Eve night was that it looks like it's going to be Dana Holson leaving West Virginia heading to Houston. And you know, a lot of people will say well why leaving West Virginia to go to Houston? And you know, the more you read about it, look, he's coached there before apparently loves the city. I'd read that he has a house there. He's reportedly pretty close with a lot of the Houston boosters, most notably the owner of the Houston Rockets. And you know, they're tight that's one of the reasons why HOGAN and still has that house down there. We have no idea how things are looking behind the scenes West Virginia. Remember he's been there for a long time. Maybe he's feel like he feels like he's kind of reached his peak. There you never, you know, if if the message is getting stale he just wants a new challenge you'd. Ever know how that stuff goes? But he's gonna get paid more money down at Houston right now. You know, it's a recruiting hotbed. Obviously, it's a lot easier to in my mind to recruit to Houston than it is to get kids to go to Morgantown West Virginia despite the difference in the conference, and I think right now Houston is viewed as kind of the crown jewel of the group of five alongside of central Florida's. Look, it's a recruiting hotbed. They're they're very successful. They have a winning record year in and year out. You know for the if there is another expansion with one of these power five conferences, namely the big twelve it wouldn't shock. Houston was at the top of that list. So he might look at that and say like, look, maybe it's not playing for a national championship right now. It's not like I was at West Virginia either. And if if you're talking about qualm. That's something to continue to to watch that with a hoax or if he feels like he'll be happier down in Houston. Fulltime from West Virginia standpoint, some guys to keep an eye on David long junior linebacker already declared over the weekend. So he's out but keep an eye on Colton mckim. It's the right tackle four West Virginia. We know about the left tackle the juiced. I think McKenna's prospect to really keep an eye on. I was really impressed with this combination of size, and I've let us the junior wide receiver, Marcus, SAM's, good returner, and then the safety. Kenny Robinson junior is also gotta keep it on. He was first team all conference this past season. What about some other juniors across the country that have declared since last week friend. Yeah. Daniel Jones from Duke the quarterback declared. So he's been getting some first round buzz. We'll see if that comes to fruition or not. I would imagine he will be the eighth quarterback for the senior bowl you go running back. Travis Homer for Miami alluded to already but a lot of other guys Darwin Thompson from Utah state Dame brewer had compared him to Torri Cohen. So. That would be an intriguing player that with Cohen success out. Imagine that will help Thompson Alexander Madison from Boise state. And then the big ones Zac moss from Utah. That's according to our guy. Tony Pauline who reported that over the weekend that Zac moss will declare for the draft. So that's something to keep an eye on their as a guy that could potentially be eight to pick. Something the always keep an eye on is better online dot AG using the promo code podcast one you want to bet on the NFL playoff games this weekend. Maybe you wanna bet on today's bowl games. If you're listening to this this morning, that's fantastic. Or maybe you want to bet on the national championship game. Clemson and Alabama at any rate the place to do. It is bed online dot AG. You just use the promo code podcast one. You get a fifty percent. Welcome bonus. So maybe he got some money from your uncle or your, grandma or whatever. And maybe you wanna make the games a liberal. Entertaining. 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So next Christian Wilkins Cleveland Farrell Austin, Brian, obviously, a very talented group going up against an Alabama offensive line left tackle, Joe Williams, the center Ross Pierce Bach or another senior there unless they're cotton as well at right guard a very good group. Are they going to be able to protect to attack? Oh Bilo against that. Clemson defense. The front. He's banged up. Obviously with that ankle are they going to be able to get after him an impact to enough. So that you know, kind of throws them off rhythm and keeps him from being a complete impact player member. We've seen that over. The course of the you know, the latter stages the regular season the Georgia game the Auburn game. They show that if you can get him if you can pressure him get him off rhythm keep him from being comfortable. Now, you can you can kind of make some hey there. So it's going to be interesting to see if this Clemson defensive line can kinda wreck the game here for the Tigers. How about shutting down the run and all these Alabama running backs? Yeah, we talked about the Harrison Jacobs and both Harissa guy. I think you look at this Clemson defensive front KENDALL Joseph obviously at line backer. I senior a lot of people are high on trade trae Lamar who was a finalist for the two buckets award. It's going to be big for them to stop the run. You know, it prevent you wanna prevent from getting into a rhythm. But stopping them from running the football. We'll be big. And then honestly on the opposite side of the football. It's just as important for Alabama. You know, we talked about ATN and how special talent he is MAC Wilson Dylan, Moses the talented inside linebacker to four Alabama. Both those guys that appears we'll be back for tied next year. So a good opportunity for both of them to go out on a high note on this season as they get ready for twenty nineteen but that would be a big key to the game there for Alabama making sure they locked down Travis CTN. And then, you know, really, honestly Ross the. Big thing is how's it? How's clemson? Good matchup with Alabama. You know, we talked about all those receivers Judy and rugs and Waddell and devante Smith, and you know, Irv Smith, how are they gonna match-up Trayvon Molin? This the junior corner. A lot of people are high on six one hundred ninety pounds AJ Terrell a really interesting player as well. Thirteen mile conference. This year marks fields inside player was a senior, you know. And then Isaiah Simmons the linebacker safety hybrid matching up against our Smith. How are they going to match up? That's going to be one of the big things that I'll be watching from the Clemson defense out in space and then on the other side of the ball. If you're Clemson. He's got all this young talent. You know, the Justin Ross T Higgins, obviously hunter Renfro. You always seem to have a big game against Alabama. Will he find a way to get it done? Big spotlight moment here for Trevor Lawrence Jake from even in a losing effort last year. Really did a nice job in that game against Alabama will will Lawrence be able to kind of shadow that and make those kind of same plays. Look Alabama showed that. They're obviously very young at corner. Patrick ser tan this CD lamb attacked him last week time and time again will they try and get him matched up on Justin Ross and T Higgins and try and make some plays down the field. It will come down to Clint Clemson protect the clumps of protect long enough. Keep Lawrence operate long ago enough against guys like when Williams and Anthony Jennings and Ray Kwan Davis and Isaiah bugs keep him up. Right. I don't know if Christian mother is going to play in this game, but keep him upright long enough. And that's gonna come down to Mitch high at the rest of that Clemson offensive line to allow him to make plays down. The field is going to be one of the big things to watch this game as well yet. Clemson feels like they're better up front. I don't know if I agree. I I was a little disappointed. I thought by Mitch high against Dame at times, I don't know that he's improved as much as I was hoping or or thought he would we'll see though, I do think that is where the battle will be won upfront. Both sides the ball. You know, Jake from had a really good game against Alabama. In the SEC championship this year, and they're going to need Trevor Lawrence to do the same bell. Do it for a New Year's edition of the college draft podcast. You can always catch friend over on Twitter at f Duffy threes. Got eagle eye in the sky podcast during the draft podcast. He's all over it. Best place to get all of his stuff is if you follow him on Twitter. I'm of course, at Ross Tucker NFL on Twitter big week. We'll have even money we'll have fantasy feasts everything you need. 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First and 10: First official NFL game in Las Vegas
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What's GonNa Happen Tonight over at Legion stadium first game for the raiders in their new home at allegiance stadium first game ever in Las Vegas. It's Monday night football. It's the raiders is the saints I don't think he can really say. Any more of and all that, which is a lot but there's a lot to unpack. There's that about how's it going mortar vide- I've been at this. It's an exciting exciting day right I. Mean I think this today is historic unprecedented in Vegas is a day that I know locals have waited not just a couple years for decades for right? I. mean. This is the NFL. We know about the success that the Golden Knights that we know about what they are meant to this community with the NFL is a totally different thing than the NHL Lamda despite whatsoever the the NFL, the presence of the raiders, the presence of Monday night football you're tonight legitimizes Las Vegas as professional, Sports City in a totally different. Way And frankly I'm excited to see what happens tonight. It's of course, very unfortunate that fans can be there. But regardless of that I don't think it takes away from our special tonight is from the city for the city rather in for the raiders franchises it. It's huge day, and I'm excited to be here this morning and talk to talk with you about. As will I and just to let everyone know we're GONNA we're GonNa do our normal Monday routine today but we're also gonNA come at you on Tuesday morning with a full analysis of what happens tonight and I can't wait to talk about all that go throw a wet towel on everything. You're Sam in spite of the the the buildup that we created. Throughout everybody to be honest with you in the raiders, need to forget all that nonsense just put it out of their head put it out of their ears is get the blinders on a yeah. It's it's all that and everything else is I is I that it's first time for that is first time for this is football as scientists all of that, but you know. Heck, with all, that is a football game at the raiders can and are capable of winning and they the best way to be able to put themselves in a position to do just that is to forget about everything that we just said all the build up that we just created. And get down to the business life. I think that's the the attitude that Jon gruener he's taking in that he's trying to make sure his football team takes right I. Mean we from him on Saturday in he was very franks. Look. Allegiance stadium, it's exciting. We special place to play, etc etc. But they've been there a couple of times already granted. It wasn't Monday night football, but they've been there in order for them to have the season they want to have. It starts with taking care of business in playing good football game against the saints including those of they present he went on and on and on about on Saturday afternoon about pretty much what they're good at which frankly is is everything, right? I mean they they after breeze they have a running game with Albemarle the Murray to have receivers even though Michael Thomas apply today they have a veteran receiving core that is that has chemistry with brees. They have defense as effective at all three levels. So to your point is not for the raiders is not about opening stadium for the raiders are playing one of the best football teams in the NFL China, before the good showing no doubt about it Sam and I think that's the right approach. You can honor Las Vegas you can honor the first the historical moment You can embrace all of that by playing a game by winning this 'em by by taking care of business and I think the raiders capable of that. Obviously, there's some of it in in on some level a limited to this game we don't know what the situation is with trump brown at right tackle. We don't know what situations with backup Samyong at right tackle a were still unsure whether nick. Wykowski starting. Middle Linebacker is GONNA play. So there's some questions that need to be answered between now and kick off and. To me I'm interested in trump around situation in what's going on over at right tackle. Frustration within the raiders building of that. You know this is an injury that while it hurts obviously, everybody's hurt at some point at some level or another in the NFL in you by Lincoln Kennedy who I host radio show luckily here in LAS. Vegas. As, alluded to time and time again you know there's there's injuries that forced you to the sidelines in there's issues that you simply have to play through. Tom Brady's twenty, one, million dollars a year is the highest paid writer. On this roster. Calf injuries obviously I'm sure he's he's in pain but there's people that think that this is an issue that Brown can play through and for whatever reason all been able to give them as three place so far twenty twenty season and in some corners that's unacceptable or yeah been in this I mean, if you look at this kind of situation I, mean as we know as you were all over and as we were all over at Vegas. Nation Me Trent Brown hardly practice during training camp any arly practice leading up to week one. So it's not like. This is just a new thing for him where he's just been unavailable this week I mean this is a guy that's been unavailable for the last five or six weeks from the most part as you're preparing for what is supposed to be a a a huge huge season of given everything that we mentioned at the top of the show. So. It there puts a little pressure on Denzel. Good. It puts a little pressure maybe maybe on a guy like random parker if he if he if he gets the call tonight. If if Trent Brown Samyong can't go so it's it's definitely a sticky situation and something worth monitoring moving forward I mean like you said, this is a franchise right tackle one of the highest paid offensive Lineman in the League somebody that's supposed to protect Derek Carr somebody who's forced to anchor this running game. It's not have him in one of the biggest games Franklin franchise history given the circumstances of blow to the Raiders of going to the game against the saints and what makes doubly frustrated as he's really good and. That offense offensive line when it's intact with trump brown anchoring the right side at tackle. It's one of the best in the NFL not having him diminishes that greatly again is one thing if it was a serious injury that you know got him on, you know central the injured reserve and everyone under said is another thing when it's an injury that. Some people. Quite honestly feel like he could do you better in maintaining and managing and getting through on Sunday or and this is a Monday night but will will leave it at that will figure out a tonight whether temporary is able to go or Sam Janas able to go. And as as we've talked about Sam you and I out what you do in the case that. Neither Samyong Jeff Brown can play. You can go down the road of what they did on Sunday a denzel good who's normally guard out there at right tackle out in that situation they had no other choice was the last offensive lineman basically capable of doing that that was on of the actor roster if you. Take a step back. A couple of hours before on Sunday with the raiders often do is not just brandon Parker. There are other swing tackle. And every time I was like, okay that that's probably a pretty good idea or gives you a pretty good feeling the raiders were satisfied Work Jeff Brown was physically felt like he was going to be able to give all game obviously that didn't happen. But ultimately, what happened is John Goes Down Samyong goes down all of a sudden. You're you're swing guard is now playing tackle. Do you stick with that because Denzel absolutely did play well and perform well or you start Brandon Parker there and keep everything as is with Derek With Denzel, good as your as your swing guard I don't know it's going to be an interesting decision. With Jon Gruden decides to for sure and given that good played. So well on Sunday at least gives you options right at least give you some flexibility I mean you can go maybe you go into the game and you start Denzel good at right tackle you see what he has and if if he lacking if he's lacking a little bit of isn't playing at the level at which he played on Sunday if you go to Brandon Parker maybe denzel good comes out display's fantastic like he did. Last week so so there's a number of options there, but it's definitely I mean, you think you're going to be making this decision right away in week one you didn't think you were going to lose your starting right tackle and then your swing tackling that nobody plants that you clan for injuries to a degree but you don't plan for injuries of that magnitude and that early in the season. So I'm like you said it, it does leave the raiders with an interesting decision of thankfully for them they have the rest of their offensive line intact. As you mentioned, that's a veteran group that is one of the better units in the league. So it is really about hugging the by player in and and that's what Rudin and at Tom Cable those guys are GonNa have to do tonight. The raiders also got on some some potentially good news henry rugs who missed You know some practice last week. Finished the week strong with the injury and he was out there on on Friday and Saturday an looks like he's in line. To play tonight against the saints and that's a big thing I think the raiders need all hands on deck offensively. Mentioned, we'll see what happens at right tackle but with all, there's skill players potentially You know again, they need all hands on deck Henry Rugs brings relevant that that very few people can. Speed and explosiveness that we saw against Carolina? Panthers whether it was authorized. Or at other times would use simply a decoy using that speed grant space for for other players that that speed factor Israel and its element that the raiders need desperately I. Mean That's I. Think what they latte last year right when his offense as we know struggle struggle specially in the red zone of stalled out at times in lack that big playability you see right away first half ban forty, five yards downfield sets up a scoring play and it's you have other. Talented players on this offense you have Josh Shakeups, you have a guarantee waller event in Nelson. Goulard. You have a technician in the slot hunter Renfro but none of those guys are Henry Ropes. You can't. You can't coach four to type of speed that's what he has and if he plays tonight whether he's on a percent or not like you said that me being a decoy just having him out there knowing that at any moment when he touches the ball you can make. You can get twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, sixty yards, any any time you touch the ball that changes the way that the New Orleans Saints After Point Defense. So so having him out there I mean definitely for the raiders that he was back on Saturday and and having him out there have bring presents gives a writer brand new dynamic that they that they desperately that they sorely need and they sorely missed last season. and heavy rugs known tough. Guy Unknown. he came out on on. Sunday in the second half after getting hurt in playing through. We'll just leave it at that hint hint but you know it is important and you have to do that in the NFL there's. Times where you got it out and go out there and play injuries. Issues explained through a constant. You got hurt in an accident. You need the right lawyer to help. You don't hire a do nothing no call no show lawyer. We are Salmon Nash and we are different. 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You just have to assume going against the New Orleans Saints drew brees and everything that they bring with that group that you're. GonNa have to score thirty points to be in a position to win this game I. think that's the mindset. The raiders have have I'm with you. I'm with you completely and fortunately for Derek Carr I mean he already knows this year what scoring thirty plus points looks like that's what he did against Carolina. Panthers like you mentioned he was efficient. In Command back there was decisive. He was accurate. He made the place that needed to be made in the in force anything when there was if you need to throw the ball away, he did you never crime with that it he led his playmakers make plays. He got the ball in Henry seen as he got the ball waller made a gorgeous. SORTA. Nelson Aguilar. Florida let Josh Shakeups to adjust adjustments does and that his feast on the ground. For. Ninety yards on twenty five carries he was effective move with chains. He was affected by the goal line in the offense looked really really really complete. Now, as you mentioned, saints are the Panthers Saints of Veteran Defense that is really good across all three levels I asked him Jordan one of the best as Russia's in the League we know that they kept that the. The line line Derek Carr cleaned last week. I think it's important that they do show again against the saints without question in that secondary with Marcus Williams Marshon lattimore. Those guys is legit is big time. So you you need their car yeah. You need to take care of the ball and you need to be decisive. Do all those things he did last week but I think You're. GonNa you'RE GONNA. Need a couple more place. There's going to be an opera opportunity to make a couple more plays on Monday I. Think you're GonNa need that against a type of team like the saints that that you know they're going to score going to play tough deep. And in talking to some people around Derek Carr this week he's really really excited about taking that I snap. In Las, Vegas Surreal thing We we we we've talked about that This is something that Derek Carr is GonNa remember and you know for him I think he wants to put together a spectacular performance to to honor the stage in honor the circumstance we go to the other side of the football defensively obviously Nick Wykowski is is doubtful to light tonight Here's the thing I think he's going to do everything he can to get on the field. Tonight I think that as the week went on the raiders were more and more whole of at forty four was going to be out there on the field. He's a guy that they definitely a desperately need for the length of the season. You don't have to balance that adds a big game a big moment you need. Your defense intact at the same time you need Nick Wykowski for the long haul. So we'll see how they handle that of that looking for some bounce back performances from. David. Arnott. Welcome to the NFL rookie moment last week you'll giving up a double. Double, stake at long touchdown, pass Robinson. The Panthers at he'll learn from Vanity raiders bounceback performance. From Eric Harris. I didn't have the best game of that he's had. A kind of. Young. Fall back onto onto what he's done in the past he's a good capable safety back. There I think he returns more to his arm but more more than anything the raiders front four needs to play a better game than they did on Sunday. Whatever the issue was. They weren't generating the heat on Teddy Bridgewater they need to I think they're going to have to do that against drew brees, not necessary to take him to the ground on sax that would be great if they could but. That isn't the whole the only way you get a job raise I. Think they need to start winning some one on one battles. And get after him and make life a little bit diff- Audrius. Well, we know we know what you resist. We know what he does and we what he what he means to the saints to the NFL. This is a man who over the course of his career has completed sixty seven point six percent of his passes that would be an NFL record the last three years completion percentage any point seventeen, seventy, two, percent, twenty, eighteen, seventy, four, point four, percent, twenty, nine, hundred, seventy, four, point, three percent that is unprecedented elite stuff and you can't let them sit back they're comfortable or else he's GonNa pick your park he's proven at urine you're out I don't care that he's forty-one. He knows what he's doing back there. He has been in every situation. Imagine he played in big Monday night games? He's played a big money that rogue games he's played in the Super Bowl we know is is resume speaks for itself so. To if the raiders could not generate some type of pressure, he's going to stand back there even without Michael Thomas and he's going to have a field day. They have to make you move around a little bit. Make him uncomfortable like you said, Saxwood be huge above but more importantly, I. Bet they a lot quick passing game. As we know, they're slop receiver short passes get the ball to Alvin. Kamara gotta disrupt that by any means necessary whether that's with the front four weather that's bringing a little bit of pressure from the linebackers whether that's putting a defensive back. You don't want this guy to get of rhythm. On Monday night football. That's that's what they don't want. You saw what happened to Teddy Bridgewater Bridgewater was outstanding last week for the most part because he was able to get into rhythm, they never made him uncomfortable only one sack that's it. That's not going to cut it. So the pressure I think that that is to me the number one factor for. The raiders, can they get pressure on drew brees it make the lives of Damodar Net, Trayvon Molin in those guys on the back end a little bit easier covering those receivers and listen you mentioned the high percentage of passes that he completes his complete as fast But that much more premium on defense back in your linebackers to minimize that damage tackle. This saints offense as many are is predicated on yards after catch. So gouging you once playmakers get the ball in their hands at you're GONNA give up. PASSES YOU'RE GONNA surrender receptions edge just the way of life especially playing gets quarterback like drew brees be physical at the point of attack of make sure that you know a five yard throw is a five yard gain and not a twenty yard gain. To me, it becomes imperative raiders. You know tackle really really well, but also. Forcing, a turnover or to. You can't just let the saints obviously March down the field and you have to get the ball to your office because the offense that Squirrel at a point, it would be nice for the raiders if they could come up with a turnover to represent vinnie and once I want to mention too is is accounting for that that saints running game as well. Right we know about reason those guys but the saints have a a former will want to punch with Latavius Murray and Alvin Kamara. Goes to speak to the balanced that offense now, Tampa Bay in week one a really good job of keeping those those guys check and keeping the offense in general and check but turned the ball over like you mentioned how how crucial turnovers were they turn the ball over found themselves in a big old call out of it. So can you keep it? How do you account for that running game also come for that game? It's one of those things that makes the saints such a challenging. Cover challenging offense to play against but but on the raiders. Look at what they did last week, they made big plays when they needed be made. They have I mean there's there's makers on that team that are definitely capable force turnovers. You can't I just again. I think it goes back to letting Greece get rhythm. Like you said, he can complete his masters but you cannot let that offense. Pickup chunk plays yards after the catch you you have to be accountable. Guarding Alvin Kamara and unfortunately for the raiders they experienced guarding a similar player similar player. We've won Christian, McCaffrey you would think that would get them ready but the the saints are deep talented cohesive in in the raiders are going to ask if you ready for them. With no matter what happens our going to be back talking to you on Tuesday. So be prepared for that will let everyone know on social media a when that will be available. When that episode of Vegas Nation I intend will be available. But until then I think we're all going to bide our time and wait for this game on Monday night at a special event here in Las Vegas special event for the NFL I know for the Raiders Organization, it's been a roller coaster ride for them to finally secure their home in their long range home. They're not going anywhere. They're here. Las. Vegas the duration finally, Las Vegas is the perfect central location for Raider nation whether you're talking about Los Angeles short drive short flight from L. A. FOR THOSE RAIDER FANS The Bay area has stuck with them, which there's a lot of you get your really easily in around the nation Raider, nation wherever. Raider fans are. What better city that Las Vegas to come and spend a weekend and watch an NFL game it. Of course, the growing fan base that's here locally that I think as the years go on will this this? 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