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The Valley-Oop, Hawks-Bucks ECF Predictions, Draft Lottery Winners & Losers

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The Valley-Oop, Hawks-Bucks ECF Predictions, Draft Lottery Winners & Losers

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Yesterday on tuesday morning but him and guys know dunks at the athletic dot com all week long or you can tweet him in at no dong sink and finally go grab your no dunk. Smerch over at no dunks dot com. Okay fun show lined up. We have our eastern conference. finals preview. An predictions yes hawks versus the bucks tip off tonight game one. So we'll get into that talk a little bit about the nba draft lottery the winners and losers favorite moments but we start by throwing analogous to a mantis here. Eight and source for the last second. New as the suns beat the clippers. Unin singing game kept us all up pretty late here on the east coast but tass have. What did you think of that one. I loved it. What a phenomenal game. I mean this thing had it all a team never up double digits throughout the entire game. So you're just you're just drawn in because you didn't know where it was going to go especially with the coaching of these. Two guys like monty williams. Let's mckell bridges under three minutes. Left shoot when he was sort of invisible all game. He's one of five game. He at one field goal that they run a play for him out of time for bridges to hit a three and he did. Everybody is making plays usually in that situation. You just go to your best player. We right devon booker coming off a forty point game. You've got this. Take us home man but the coaching was matched from the other side. Patrick beverley was starting in this game for the first time in a month and he did a great job against devon booker so then booker was sort of taken out of this game. I mean everything is just sort of puzzling things. You wouldn't expect. Cameron payne was the leading score of this game. Twenty nine points. I guy you know released from his last two. Nba teams went to the g. league. He went to china. He scored twenty nine and under in the lane. He saved dario sarge from being a ben simmons when he didn't dunk the ball. I mean he was getting to the rim. He was doing everything. obviously deondraye. Eight and twenty four points was he had that first huge alleyoop. i thought that would be his biggest allieu. I'll like gorgeous. Plays everywhere even like everybody. Like patrick beverley again. Starting for the first time in a month. Great move by thai lou. He puffed on a three looked at his defender and then hit a three in his face. I mean where how. Who's writing this stuff like this. And then getting to the end of the game the villain you the villain in patrick beverley. This game definitely. Has it all the ridiculous flop. On devon booker getting in his face headbutting him by accident or whatever and then saying to him like hey man. We're friends like the fake high five dim booker's like no. I'm not going to give you a high five man. I'm playing basketball against you. I hate you and and we almost had to game winners right at the end. There with devon booker hitting the go ahead shot. Twenty seven seconds left and paul george. Twenty two seconds left only to set up. Patrick beverley out of bounce call which was not all that stuff with patrick beverley. I was very happy that the phoenix suns ended this game on the jay triano alleyoop jay triano former coach of the phoenix suns. He told tyson chandler man on an inbounds play. There is no offensive goaltending. You can score above the rim. Jay triano canadian. The game was made by a canadian. He knows the fricken rules. Unlike the referees who had to go look at it for a thousand years but just look at your phone while these guys doing a video review. There's funny stuff on your phone. That parts of fortunate no doubt but the hundred and took this thing home glorious glorious play and he was a hero. I mean you know we could talk about this game all day. i'm we should talk about. This game is after everybody takes their turn. We go to the scorer's table and review exactly what they said but after every single point what a crazy last minute of basketball. That was the sons had the ball and they were down one with nine seconds left. Is that right and they still pulled out this win because of obviously the missed free throws and the crazy you man it really pays off to watch random basketball games over the years. Because i don't think that the jay triano play is well known because apparently people were super confused. But you can't have a shot attempt on out of bounds player so it worked out perfectly and if you happen to be following basketball in the phoenix suns. Not a good team back in two thousand seventeen. That's the only way you know about this. But the sun's knew about it and it worked out perfectly. it also worked perfectly. The jae crowder wasn't like right underneath the basket. Yeah pass would be impossible if he wasn't standing. You know ten feet further to the left or whatever it is gave the perfect angle. He put it right on the rim. I think the andre eight and even said that's jay crowder game winner. Really all he had to do was go up. In boop david robinson down i love the huddle with monty williams where he's like hey. Da if he throws it you got to try to dunk it. Good advice worked out. Worked out for the sons crazy stuff. Oh my god lee. Yeah what a play. Call for money williams. What what a back screen from booker there assume get real physical with them. What a pass of course from crowder and then what. A finish from aden is a massive. What if game here for the clippers right like what. If paul george hit a couple of free throws even maybe what if the clippers grabbed that defensive rebound on bridges. I missed three in the corner. They're like trailer saying like where it even just ended up out of bounds. What if they don't even demand an instant replay review on that to allow money wins in the sense to basically have a free time out to call up this law play. What if cousins makes it a little more difficult for crowder to not get that angle just staying a little bit more big guy get his way in front of the rim. There's less than a second. it's probably gonna be around there and what even like zoo boxes just parked under the rim. And they don't have a moving in space and then there's the battery. What if what if what if and here. The sun's up to and we can get into the whole instant replays and and whether this is like really bad for the league and all that but just the game itself off the table again. Li you stayed upright. You couldn't have gone to bed for this one sleep but yeah yeah so i started light so behind on schedule so up as like i didn't even have the i didn't even have the energy to do practice. Your free throws. Because i felt so bad for paul george because honestly i didn't know we could because people don't because the respect i have for hal the clippers state in this game. There was a run there in that third quarter where the avalanche felt the crowd again. Gone crazy and lou cannot in that. Fourth quarter actually was huge hitting some of those threes just stepping into them. I'm like no great shot. Luke kennard also do. That's that's wild but for georgia. He did he made the great play to get the layup and then he hit the mid range and he did all the right things. Star should do good good. Hard percentage looks gets the lucky coal. As far as the overturn he goes to the free throw line and then he goes long on that second. One and one of those free throws at least almost guarantees in extension of the game. You know the sons were probably going to run a similar play to what they ran their with. I in all hang on the head more time. That didn't they actually. they could've. they could've gone for three. But i think they probably would have gone for a book amid ranger to try to extend. The game is so whatever. But i think if he hits both free throws not losing and well that's right that's right one then then they also may not lose on that last possession overtime or whatever but he was clearly struggling last night. Pulled georgia legs look a little bit heavy. He hit the big three. Though lady only went one for eight from danton. He was trying to do everything we can do. We got some help from his supporting cast. Their and you just honestly felt the clippers earned that one. I really do you think that everything. That gold through the played well enough. Now the the overturn call on When when beverly knocked it out of devon booker his hands but the rules they got correct. But we'll patrick beverley signature. Move at this point. Yeah the ball guys. Hand barely in the last couple of seconds. Did it christmas day. Right against lebron a few years they like come on. Perfectionism here is ruining basketball and all sports really when it comes to instant replace. I think it is. It's just got. It's just goes overboard where well in in that. In that instance again it's clearly beverly's you movement that knocks the ball out. And yes. It technically comes up but if you can do that then then every single call when it goes out of bounds on a contested. Rebound o'clock shot because they twelve hours and those calls would be overturned all the time and again. If you're gonna fall fine. But i think we all understand that in basketball. That's not off of book. That's beverley because he knocked it out and you if you're going to get down and down to the nitty gritty like that. It's going to ruin the game and that took why too long as well. That eight seconds of this game took eight minutes in the last ninety seconds of the game took almost a half an hour. And what do they look worse. We're gonna watch everybody. I'm sure watching the show here today. Or listening to the podcast. We're gonna watch basketball if it's five hours long because we love it but it's not for us here where you've got to get rid of this and clean it up and maybe just get rid of it completely all these instant replay reviews its for casual fans is to get more fans because that's not exciting if you are on the east coast or your international or whatever time it is like that's that's not keeping you interested. I know you jokes like well look at your phone. There's a lot of funny stuff going on twitter. A man lee couldn't even he didn't have the energy even more time. The thing is with that. I honestly think they need to be the thirty seconds to change the call or to jump ball or you just stick with the call. You've got dragging it out like that when we were watching a guy okay. Fine call it off and then if you're gonna call it but you don't need six thousand different replays of it you know. It's the same one when it went off. Zoo butts and deondraye eight and there's we can see as we get to see the same thing like what what are they need to continually look at it. It's like get off him. I assume the pendulum has swung too far yet direction because when when booker hit patrick beverley in the face. And patrick beverley flop. There was no whistle. They just decided. After patrick beverley was lying on the ground and everyone was complaining. That yeah we're gonna go video review it just in case it was a flagrant foul or successive or whatever and the same thing with that. Patrick beverley out of devon off of devon booker's hands like we all know in basketball if a guy swipes on the defensive side of the ball and knocks it out. it's it's the offensive teams ball brexit. But but now the pendulum has swung. And so we're watching scott foster and his water those shoes. If you guys saw those those are like real corrective shoes they're monsters. I couldn't get a good one actually. Didn't notice other huge. It's kinda hard to see. I didn't get a great great screengrabbed. But yeah they're real. The real old man shoes are just a little too thick but anyways maybe he's got a sponsorship deal. Maybe fosters got a shoe sponsorship. Hocus now that's why he's always trying to get on camera. It's it went way too far. And i guess we can be mad about the video. Views is a little bit more magic with patrick beverley. And because that's what his reputation is tough hard nosed guy plays defense knock it off you but if you live by that code if you live by that code like man every single possession. I'm tough You can't be flopping all over the place it's got to go one way or the other. Which one do ya. The man has to have code and breaking his own code and gave me lillard was tweeting. Flopping all over the place. That's exactly what happened and devon booker showed toughest i think kudos to him and just how how hard knows no pun intended but listen like his. I took a screen. Grab of his nose to show to that thing is he. Says it's not just it's crooked and showed nor this if she's like what. Oh no you know like. She thought he was a good looking guy he is. I think his name devon armani booker. That's name knows is is one of the most we. It sort of injuries. Because i think it must affect your breathing and you saw it as well like with the The swelling and all that and just go out there and keep on going. I mean he's going to have to wear masks of the rest of the series isn't he. Because hamilton was one of his favorite place. Again you might be pumped to wear their big time. Kobe fan right and kobe. had formed. says wearing a masks. So i wouldn't be surprised just reminded feeling last week. We were talking with cameron. Payne is the knows a part of the face. Now we got more nos drama. Incredible stuff considering you know. If you're going deep into phoenix suns. History steve nash with the broken nose. Blood everywhere you know being any piece of they can find out there. I guess that's how you fix a bloody nose. And they're trying to fix it fast as possible. Phoenix just looks for any sort of cotton ball opened those nostrils was like he was like a formula one driver in the twin. They had the data then it was like get back and even on that play. Patrick beverley touchy. You taught you using bleeding completing because he goes has collided like that one. Yeah i mean places where he probably shouldn't that's how he plays so. It's not a surprise. But i think that i don't think beverly's purposely trying to like jim head into booker's knows it's it's a little too close and they both get banged up there and had to exit the game and then did return but yeah the the flop from the forearm from booker was a little much. And i'm with you tasks like you're going to be this this dog out there and then you're just gonna like flop around that's weird but what back to back to the instant replay though. What do you think we should do to try and fix this like what. What is the solution. Is there a. Is it a clock for the referees. When they they go to the like. We basically need referees for the referees. Get completely like what. What what would you do if you're silver and the rules committee or whatever. Something's gotta change. There's no doubt about that. Honestly maybe like the unified review system. That they use for soccer is pretty good where they have just one person who does it and maybe a shot clock is what they need. And then we're going to be reviewing. Did they get the review. Done in thousand four seconds. I don't know what it is but the nba is going out of their way to combat these offensive players. Kind of jumping backwards and jumping sidewards and turning this into a foul something that people been complaining a lot about during this season i feel like after the way things went down last night with the last. Like you heard it on every single episode of sportscenter. You're going to hear it on the podcast. You already heard it here once. The last ninety minutes took thirty or last ninety seconds took thirty three minutes. And when that's something that keeps coming up in the discussion about the game. It's bad for the game so they got to speed it up. I mean you want the right calls in the last two minutes but it's infuriating to stop the game after every single catch play like maybe the only one that didn't stop for a view was when paul george took it to the hole and made a layup because that will under kind of in the flow of the game but it felt like play was stopped for something else so they got to speed it up and they gotta just make it happen less often and i think that the league will do that because obviously they want basketball to remain one of the fastest of the four major sports. It's boring for people who don't care to be like my goodness it onto the replay again. But i don't know. I still think that the basketball overcomes like i still was hyped after last night and i think even if you're not a total sicko watching that game seeing that alleyoop you're still loving it. But of course they had to go to the replay to figure out. Wow look at that. Only two point two seconds to throw that so. Try it on your side clippers at the jeff van gundy for being all over knowing the rule They're on the broadcast because the clippers were confused. You sell rondo going. That's basque. that's interference. You can't be over the rim like well. Yeah actually can and sons did it in two thousand seventeen chandler and jay triano somehow figured out this rule that it's a dumb that what's that. It's a dumb rule because score a basket. What can you offensively go into bosnia camp. That that doesn't seem to make sense at all. Well i think they should just get rid of it completely if you're if you ask me the whole interference sarah being over the rim and stuff like that like the they don't have in fiba and stuff like that but i don't think he can do that in favor. I think it's only when it hits the rim than you can put it down. I believe that's true that's You know i'm not one hundred percents because again last not. I thought that was offensive interference. Because it's latian if you score the basket but it's not a violation if you do something would always be a violation during live play. Yup jae crowder what i mean. He had no room to get that wrong. He might just incredibly perfect time passed so he acted like he could do it. Ninety nine times out of one hundred if not one hundred one hundred well. he's quarterback. Isn't he's a quarterback. I think remember he hit a full quarter in. Fact wasn't that him who did now and that didn't count because he was out of bounds when when he threw that i think bank. Did i believe that was it. I have to check that. But i think that was because i remember how easily he threw it. That's i i think twice it. I used to be quarterback nonsense. Yeah got a cannon on him. The boy i haven't seen his highlight taste. But i'm guessing jae crowder was just dominating all over the field football like maybe. He's throwing some deep bombs but i can imagine he's going for two thousand yards in a season so he's rushing Dan devine wrote about last night's game. The clippers are gonna kick themselves here for drop in this one task in which they did limit book like you said outside of his shenanigans. Beverly doing a great job doubles at at the right time and the outscored phoenix thirty nine to eighteen from three point range and they still lose game too but are you giving up on the cliffs. This is now the third time they're down. Oh two in a series here but is this different to you or you like you know what they figured. Some things out tyler got creative. They're in both of these games. There's no now know chris. Paul of course with sons and he's rumored to be coming back here for game three so that's trouble for them. But but what do you think like. Are you ready to bury the clippers. Are they still in this. Because they even lost a home game at the clippers deserve all the respect as much as most people hate them and patrick beverley earned them some more haters last night. The fact that they didn't go double digits in this game in phoenix. While the crowd was rocking they deserve all the respect. Of course this is a killer and the fact that the phoenix continues to win now. Before koi leonard comes back been. They're going to get chris paul back before leonard comes back so they got to get all these wins in now. I think it's the way. The phoenix suns are playing. They're playing better than the dallas mavericks where the utah jazz and. That's why they're in the conference finals as a pretty dumb thing to say. But that's just the way they're playing is so phenomenally. Well i think yeah the this is going to be one that the clippers look back and say yeah we shoulda stole that one in phoenix. Of course this one's gonna hurt a little bit more than going down o to the first two types in a plus plan every second night and all that and it's just hard to come back over and over and over again. There were the first team to come back from to twice So can they do it a third time. It's obviously possible. Tight lewis pushing all the right buttons. He is. He's so i i'm not questioning that. Inserting patrick beverley was huge. I thought devon booker scoring forty in the first game was just gonna continue to roll into game. Two patrick beverley was too small but he did a great job getting under booker skin. And i think he still under booker. Skin booker played extremely. Well put his on the line on that setting that pick for sure but you know he's got to overcome that in game three zubov starting in game two almost worked out i. I'm not questioning the clippers anymore. But you know. Pg gotta be. He's gotta be a little hurt little hurting in the heart after that one. No doubt he's he's going to be tough to come back from the sun's really continue just to get contributions from from everyone. It feels like it changes. Maybe from night tonight. Nine straight playoff games which is amazing but last night it was. You know it wasn't bridges right who who is struggling with just try. It wasn't like crowd who's lightning up from three. It was cam. Johnson who comes off the bench gives them like huge eleven points. Great play didn't miss a shot. Rich in moments where like you know pick and pop and cousins a little bit there because he's too slow and then sometimes man got on them all. Just go down under the ram and bully him. He contributed campaign like we said. I mean this is just unreal. This guy this guy at one point was considered the worst player in the league. I'm not it's not. Even an exaggeration. There was a stretch really raptors and bulls. Both cut him i. Honestly he sucked sucked. He sucked and now the guy's twenty nine points a playoff game like a huge playoff game nine assists not a turnover basically he was like crispell which is unreal so they just keep getting all these guys. It's amazing what they look like such an awesome team. And then you've got the stars in booker. And then chris paul coming back and eight. And actually who's been the second best third best player in this series so far pallor you get. he tweeted. can't explain this but campaign. Plays like an elastic rubber bands. Someone is flinging around the court. And i thought that was right because he is a wiry little guy. He's got a bit of an awkward shut. He doesn't have the greatest mechanics in the world but he's confidence level. Right now is as high as it's ever been. And i think as a he did play with monty williams in o'casey as monty was an assistant coach and when monte called him out last season said we wanna come try it. In the bubble he was like absolutely. And so that has fostered that relationship to the point where now they're not looking at campaign has found money whatever he gives them it's like he's actually producing full them and especially again like with chris. Paul i think he's locked. They'd come back for game three. That's they've been able to get these two games without having crispell there now. Devon booker of course had to miss significant wrote part of the game last night. We're dealing with the injury and the sun's didn't just completely fall apart. Now i mean. That's a great sign for monty. Williams that everyone out there fields that it's not just ever booker or not. Just chris paul or eight. And who's carrying this. Everyone contributes in some at macau bridges. Somedays it's crowder last. Not can johnson five for five from the field. I mean that is found money. I think when he comes out there and does it so torrey craig game earlier in the big moment or a big half and that's just a sign of a good well-balanced team. I understand that you might not get all the minutes one. Not and all the shots but when you are called upon if you're ready to go out there and be expected to contribute so everything is really a good spot right now for the sons because again chris. Paul is not coming back from an injury so he just got a little bit of extra rest god. he's age. I think it's a blessing in disguise. In some ways. He goes to la likely fresh and ready to go back khoa length. But i think it's reasonable to assume he won't be playing in this series so the sons i mean they on the brink of Returning to the fawn which is an incredible turnaround for team. Two seasons ago had the second worst league record in the league which is incredible to think about. Who's the last team to go to the finals without making the playoffs the celtics. I think it's way believe yes all the way back then. Yeah we could have two teams right in the hawks hockey off the upset here and the bucks could do it hawks on possibly but tray with this one are you. Are you burying the clippers or this is still a series in your mind. I think it's still a series. I think the clippers will certainly do well as the series shifts to la but they honestly should be kicking themselves for not winning one of these two games game one. They made twenty three pointers. If you make twenty three pointers in the game that's winnable. Obviously last night came down two free throws and a one point loss. That's a like either one of those. You gotta steal the clippers. Gotta get a win in phoenix at some point. It's like you had a one point game. That's a toss up. You had a twenty three point game. Those are the ones you're are supposed to win especially when your team built around three point shooting but they've been resilient all year long. I would say the only button that tyler didn't push exactly right. Last night was bringing in demarcus cousins to guard the inbounder. Why like i mean. I get it i get it. But like he was kind of standing to the left of jae crowder giving him a perfect lane to the hoop. I thought that was a little bit weird. Bring in an cold goalie as gordon. Bombay did once upon a time with julie. The cat gaffney didn't work out quite as well. The clippers as it did for team. Usa but i do think the clips are going to be better once they get back to la. They've been great so far. It's impossible to count him out when they're down to at this point but the sons are rolling and it looks like they're gonna get better unless they wanna reggie miller this and keep chris paul out until they actually lose a game. Just keep him on facetime people by love the facetime chris. Paul bobin caesar great celebration. The was awesome in his postgame interview to that guy. That guy he just makes you smile looking allen i just love his face and i love is like attitude and very easy to root for a monster gave. I don't want to maybe we glossed over it a little bit. We're talking about the the the value showed them that winer with that call on twitter but he was wicked in the first half to again. Eaten setting the tone in so many of these postseason games. What did he finish overall. At twelve fifteen. Playing his ass off defensively to he's gotten better and better in this league state being still super. Yeah he was he was great. It was absolutely phenomenal. They need them on both ends spectacular. I want just jump into it with one thing. Yeah i was wondering demarcus cousins guarding the inbounder. Just who else would you have thought. Maybe it's just somebody a little bit more bouncy. Maybe this is where they miss serge ibaka for this one play. Bring a mental block that inbounder but it is interesting bringing a tall guy that makes sense right But then i want to complain about one thing so those five guys that were on the floor for the deondraye doug had to be on for the next play and so the score had no idea who was they basically go back and check the tape and with the weight they're also see forever. It did take forever i mean. That's that's something that any score keeper should just have to be a part of their job right like the five guys on the floor. Like shouldn't that be in the cop. Like or five. Just a press. Like the fifteen second rewind button on your vr and see who's on the floor and be like okay. That's kind of what they did right. Put up a venture off. Jay crowder throwing them and there's not a better way to do that. You just gotta go. Cj zero on this thing and check what you post very weird but people are calling us out here guys literally last year in the finals. Both teams went from the play offs to in the finals. The lakers and the heat. Oh my god the lakers. Yeah okay good. Call a so. Let me ask you guys subject because as a basketball nerd. I'm obviously loving cam johnson. Come in and luke canard combat and not miss shots. I'm loving that. But i hear from some casual fans at the absence of quiet. Leonard and chris paul's kind of taken some shine off this series. Am i just the basketball geek. And i'm just loving it or is there. Is there a little bit of shine taken off of it and i'm just enjoying the fundamentals. I'm just enjoying every guys being out there to contribute. I guess you could argue. It would somehow even better if both those guys who are playing these last two games have been unreal. Though i mean just the terms of like lead changes and how close it's been down the stretch and all these crazy what if plays but i guess i understand but who cares ultimately if if it's an entertaining game despite all the instant replay reviews last year. That's my opinion lee. What do you think i mean. Obviously it loved to see them out there. But they're not so you just have to dance with the one that broach this all right. Let's enjoy the game and it was a great game we sing. We sing still seeing star plaza. I mean paul. George endeavor book on didn't shoot all that will last night compared to gain one but the still enough stop. how for us. Who if you are a casual like man. I love chris. Paul i love. I'm not watching it okay. Fine but we're still watching wisdom loving it and it's still mean don't think though the sun should be allowed to bring chris paul back his point until coa can come back. Seems fair okay. Let's make that a real test either. I feel unqualified answer. This question i'm going to be watching regardless. Honestly if it's campaign and frank kaminsky running a pick and roll every single time down the court on probably loving even more but i don't know people are watching ratings are up. Maybe that's just because we're seeing you know fans and stands and this is a standard playoffs compared to the bubble last year but i mean the bigger if we had finals. Mvp and a guy in. Chris paul who's going trying to win his first title. Obviously that would be a big story but you know this is where stars are made are in the playoffs like deondraye and i had him most improved player this year and then was completely disappointed because all he was doing was playing defense as it turns out he was just saving it in the playoffs. He's gonna keep playing the defense but it's figured out a way to become a fluid offensive player and honestly just dominate the paint. He's holding it down inside. He's the only guy on either team that really cares about being inside. It's been it's been here so it's like yeah. It was exciting. I'm sure four andrea eight and was drafted number. One back then could have easily fallen out of their minds and now here. He is winning the game in the playoffs. That's how you become a star in the future. Not everybody's a star right away. And i think even if some fans weren't pumped game one you know chris balls sideline because of the protocol. Kawhi leonard is y- get real then because this basketball is just so fricking good and if you wanna watch some men look at a monitor. You've gotta be excited about that too but that looks like it'd be the basketball has to you and it is just so fricken good and as i said at the beginning. Neither team had a double digit lead in this game. Lead for me. That's always yeah and it was. There was barely one in game one. If i remember mean maybe team got up to ten Maybe i don't. I don't even know if that's the case i mean that was. It's just been so good. Yeah the clippers not falling apart It's feels like but man they just obviously hit. Like i think van gundy it on the broadcast. They had like a an answer three every time. It felt like the sons were gonna pull away like it was canard. It was a reggie jackson three. It was yours it when he was like. Whoa all always were just sticking around. I mean even this game. I couldn't believe the the clippers were up at one point i was like oh my god i feel like the sons are completely outplaying. Them in this and somehow l. c. Had the lead which means for a great finish. It feels like the crowd is sort of somehow. Be on top of the core to well like they just up and go. Mike breen was standing on the side. I don't remember seeing three do it. Reggie does it a lot because you get apple standing courtside so it's tough to see. You could see mike breen. Like he was perched up and he was. He was standing to see the actually. Yeah we wanted to call the game standing up. That'd be awesome. I just really back. Let them roam the court hand one commentator cameras right now not do with my just back to booker's knows i've told my story before where i busted. Open my nose on a trampoline at a high school party trying to be a cool guy doing a double flip my nose off the metal bar on the trampoline in the backyard and blood. Wet all over the trampoline. But if any of you guys busting your snows broke it or crooked or just had a super bloody nose. No lear awesome basketball but at a broken one. So yeah. I've never had a penalty knows in my life. I got the perfect meal. What can you don't have a big no like a lot of us here on the show. Yeah just small feet. small way. the most of the people when you're planning a pick up games on the void in the elbe drew. But i've never even got one. You know like going deep for a book or something like that. I know they're super common. I've done a lot of dumb stuff. You'd think i'd take a shot to the face. Certainly that's happened but no blood. You grew up in chicago none of those early morning. Pickup runs where it's like minus forty five degrees in the ball just like ricochets face. That never even gave you a blood. Nuns never had a blunt nose. I mean i think helped by being a little taller ricochet task that sionas ever been busted open baseball. It's been exploded once now by a fist by a man's fist made it explode. Yeah sounds like a good story. Great story i got. I got blasted in the nose so it was a one-way fight really if you watched. Yeah kinda yeah. I knew it was a fight happening if it was third year of college. I think yeah. My nose was basically below my i. It went way over. But i had a great great guy in the er great doctor in the er take his two thumbs and just push it back old. I barely felt it. I barely talk alcohol flowing through the system. So i barely felt it but he just cranked back. I mean it was. It was bad it was it was ugly huge black ice think. Jd we were in the same class in general. If remember i remember yeah it was It was good punch. Me landed landed really. Oh speaking speaking about speaking of quarterbacks the he was the high school quarterback who's looking for a fight and that man landed found his mark break between the eyes brings. They're all standing in the corner jukebox. Tasse i feel. I can happen in woodbridge. Is that correct. Where you in woodbridge. okay downtown. Toronto the saw a parking lot in the suck. Plato no abulhol. Good guy a great bunch. I mean bad. It wasn't fun okay. I'll tell i'll tell you talking shit to them or like Okay steve was talking shit like an idiot. That was a guy. A bunch of guys bunch of guys wanted to start a fight and bake steve got into it. I got in there to break it up and some guy ran out of the back of his car just turned me around just hand on the shoulder. Turn me around and just jan. Yeah i went. I blacked out For a second. Because i went from i went from the because it was in a parking lot. And there's nobody around. It's like after closing time so i went from the back of the car where he me to the front of the car and i don't remember a thing like they're doing some kicking. There's people screaming there was. Yeah so i woke. I actually came back consciousness when the car started and the car was like the lights came on in the car. I was like in front of the car. They drove often. There was a court situation. And all that. I really know the details of this story. Yeah oh yeah. My buddy of mine had a nice ugly asked tooth. I saw him in the emergency room. Broken tooth guys were there. Are these guys just like enemy. Fighters was a three on three on three but one team. One team didn't really come to play. We got this story we could. We could go on but it's in the police report public records. Jd you find that we can post that show l. head pill hill. Find it for us so awesome game despite all the delays. I would just like. Let's just get rid of replay for one year try still back to like no replay. Student happens maybe the opposite. Maybe we're here every second day. Go on my god. Can you believe they blew that one after we looked at but i guess if you get rid of replay like for the officials we almost have to get rid of replay for the broadcast so we can never see in super slow mo with the phantom camp so we can never then argue about like. Oh who was it out on. I don't know i'd like to try it. Just switch it up their silver for it. Maybe that's the sure people would love it. That's great ideally man. But you get to pick. Who like bay. Ben simmons you got to shoot inside look on that one last night all right beverly. You have to shoot three four if you get it in show ball if you miss it. Sounds honestly what we do. Obviously playing pickup. The nba would be incredible. That's a fun idea. Okay we gotta move on. 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So let's break it down keys to the series and then we'll get to predictions. Trae guinness started hawks bucks. What are you watching. I think john collins has been the unsung hero of the hawks. Playoff run here. Had a great quote to chris kirschner at the athletic john. Collins said these are meaningful moments right. Now i'm proven i can win here. Everything i'm doing on. The court is just as valuable as showing. I can get twenty or twenty five points per game and i gotta agree with them. John collins was twenty and ten guy we had him as a potential first time all star. I think before last season. Obviously that didn't happen. There was a little bit of drama this season with like getting on the same page with trae young but in the playoffs john collins has remade himself just basically as a defensive guy as a as a pest to the opponents his defense on julius randle. I thought was huge in that series. His defense on tobias harris was huge against the sixers but now john collins is probably going to be honest. i would have to imagine with quinn cappella sticking brooke. Lopez's this is gonna sound ridiculous. But i mean it as a positive. I think john collins can hold. Yana kubo the thirty two and thirteen. And that would be huge basically just battle hymn. Make it hard and put you on us on the line when necessary. That's basically what blake griffin. Did he played with a lot of effort. On a lot of physicality those are both things that collins has done really well in the playoffs. So far i mean you're not going to slow down honest he's gonna produce but if collins is good enough against the honest that the hawks don't have to double all the time and they're not giving up easy three pointers. Something that could be a major disadvantage. Going against janas can just be a small inconvenience if you will if you're able to guard him almost straight up. That would be huge for the hawks to not have to devote other resources to try and slow down inside. Yeah it's a good call. He's been great. John collins for sure i feel like a lot of the keys to the series here. Correct me if i'm wrong are going to be. Maybe from the hawks side of things being the underdog like what has to happen for them to pull off. Maybe another upset here over. The bucks are who are the heavy favorite so lee. What's your key series or an x factor where you're going well with both don bogdonovich because he's the lightest update on him. He a. he's a game. Time decision tonight so i do expect him to play because he's pain in that same boat now for the last three or four games as he was against the Sixes in that second round. And i think you only have to look at the last three games to see that. He clearly was affect that he might. One of these lost sixteen three point attempts and he just wasn't moving out there. He basically sat on the bench. I think in the second half of game seven. He's not shooting the bulwell and that's a clear sign when you dine. Have your legs underneath you. That the something wrong so hopefully. He's had a little bit of extra time he'd arrest because he's so important to them as another guy who can shoot the ball to to hit those three. They need him firing threes. He was great against the knicks. Early against the sixers. And i need him and he'll also defensively he's a bigger guy than you think he's. He's actually he's a bad six. He's sort of feels like he's a little bit smaller than that but he's he's just really important. I think to what the What the hawks have to do and if he can't go then they're already down the andre hunter in already dan cameron at you has had been on the team at all in the playoffs. So they've tried. Kevin in the starting lineup might have to go to solomon hill back into the time. Starting lineup which is just because of size reasons. You don't think he's going to go with nari night mcmillan to start him. So i'm guessing that's who they would go to if none of it's kind of guy but if he's backing these fresh healthy then. That's a huge thing for the hawks because He can he can handle the rock a bit but also when he gets going. He's a very very important score for them so hopefully feeling good and hopefully he's feeling better in is good to go to and he's a fun. Little narrative twists there to have been signed by the box. It looked like he was going there. And then the tampering and cost pick and all that and find his way to atlanta. So that would be you know if the hawks were to pull this off and he played well insult to injury to milwaukee if they somehow got put by the guy that they actually had on their team in bogdonovich. What about you task. What's a key to the series. Well i think the coaching is monstrous. Mainly from nate mcmillan sign psychos. You know the playoffs are all about matchups baby name. Mcdonald's gotta push so many of the right buttons because they are the underdog and they have to find a way to get the upper hand. This is going to be the series. They probably missed the andrea hunter came radish have been upgraded to questionable. Maybe he gets inserted. But that's sort of where. I'm worried that small forward spot because pg tucker pat content is worth trae. Young is gonna hide. He's gonna they're gonna start. Pj tucker maybe impact to trayvon's going to hide there. But then chris middleton is a big problem for the hawks kevin herder on him he could. He could really hurt him or did bring back. Solomon hill for kevin herder. I'm not sure. Do you put bogdan bogdonovich jonah. But then who takes drew. I mean that's there's some perimeter problems there. What happens to clint cappella. If he gets into foul trouble guarding yannis. I mean what do you do john collins the same thing on the congo. We're going to be out there. Is he gonna play minutes as he can be able to stop. Janice i think they just don't have really good match. Ups i think from the other side for but his main question is do i start tucker. He doesn't really have anyone to guard. I think the hawks are just so undermanned. In this series the bucks just have so. Many of the advantages and nate was a little slow last series to implement those changes. He waited until game. Four start kevin. Harder and bay somehow made that happened. They obviously it was successful after a couple of huge comebacks in that series. But i think he's got to be on top of it from the beginning. Because i get that the bucks have quote unquote more pressure on them. Because they're now the favorites in this series but they got to feel good as a number three series a number three seed to have home court advantage in the eastern conference finals. That just doesn't happen very often. And i think that the hawks are sort of just behind the eight ball to start. The series of the hawks. Hope that holiday shoots is poorly as he did against the nets. That would really help chances. He shot thirty six percent from the floor and twenty six percent from three holiday. Will he be that bad again. In this series i sort of doubt it. And he's my key just what he's gonna do defensively trae young. The one time they played this season trae shot three seventeen in his one game. It was second shooting performance of the year. He had six turnovers two in that. Game and drew. Holiday was the primary defender. He's he's he's awesome. He's he's an old offensive player. And i think trae elevate. I saw shuman breakdown that matchup with no free throw attempts so i mean look. The hawks are not gonna win. These games. drew holiday keeps tray onto three seventeen shooting of eight when he's on. I'm so that's big and then easy buckets to hear bucks score a lot in transition. A lot of that comes by way of turnovers but the hawks are good at taking care of the basketball for the most part so which one which one gives. They're they're huge underdog but they're fun to root for here in atlanta and. I think there's gonna be a lot of people actually like. Oh this'll be awesome. If the hawks would somehow get to the final so they're gonna have their fan support here from the casualties and the die like the hawk bros. alike. Let's get to predictions though trae. Who who do you like in this. How many games. The books should be favored. The buck should win this series. But i'm taking the hawks and seven thirty. It's probably not gonna pay off skeets from being completely honest as we said heading into nets versus bucks. This could easily be the nba finals here at ended up going seven classic games and to be quite honest. The bucks handled the nets pretty well as soon as kyrie irving went down. Obviously the hawks are undermanned. But they've already won five road games in this playoffs to in both series. So i think they can steal one in milwaukee if they steal one in the first couple games either tonight or in game two. The series has changed immediately. And there's definitely a lot more pressure on milwaukee so yeah. I'm rooting for a narrative here. I'm rooting for a city here. Ten seven okay hawks in seven leelee two questions your prediction and have you looked at tickets for game three here in atlanta. Yeah i have. I probably go into my last hole playoff game getting any cheaper from here on out. But i'm taking the hawks to why not why not trae. Young's paint incredible to watch this these. He definitely punches well. Above his white out there on the court. I'm not saying he's allen iverson but he's got the vives that tiny guy at the you just of think like. How does this guy go into the paint fearlessly. Like that right cool. He hits a three point and he's got the sort of like people hate him. He's got that like the villainous quality to him as well. I mean al-anon's is very popular but he was also like the sort of go ahead loved to go on the road and get a big win the smallest guy on the floor with the biggest heart it feels and he is not afraid of the moment. I was really really impressed with game seven performance because he was shooting so badly but he didn't stop shooting hit that massive three light in the fourth quarter which was a just a deep bomb. Like listen. we're going to go out emptying the clip. And that's what i love about him so I'm pulling for the hawks not down here in atlanta. I think the buckeye favorites and deserve to be. But i say the hawks can do it another close. Add game on the road hawks in seven. Two hawks yeah. That's the voice of reason you going. Well the reason why. I'm going to pick the bucks. 'cause i want the hawks to win some lame. The box yes. They are absolutely the favorites and because they were the underdogs in the net series. I think if people start picking the hawks people start getting on they can use that as bulletin board material and then they can feel like the underdogs again so. I'm taking the bucks with the hopes that the hawks win. I mean i do think the bucks are gonna take the series. But i'm obviously for the hometown team. I think Ashtrays that really comes down to the first couple of games that it happened in the philly series. That has happen and it could happen. I mean the the bucks almost lost game one of that miami heat series where they were clearly the better team super-duper close it came down to chris. Middleton game winner But i'm not giving milwaukee any more bulletin board material here. So i'm taking the bucks and five but hawks in seven okay. Excellent jennifer hedger there for tsn. That's the turning point. Gino reta. I'll take bucks in six. Is where i'm going with this. You're right about the hawks like it's far fetched to see them. Win one of these two games in milwaukee. They won both game once right of their last two series to start it off and why not is. That could not be possible again. What type of trae young performance. But i do think brooks deterring maybe some of these floaters inside the trailer. But he's so smart because it doesn't go all the way to the rim so it's still there to knock them down. Its i'm excited. I think this is going to be a great series here still. I'm gonna take milwaukee because it does feel weird to say like oh box nets man. Whoever wins that it's probably going to win the title or at least go to the finals because the sun's look like incredible right. Now be weird to switch that up. So i'll go milwaukee in six but let's hear from the stream team your predictions who you're cheering for some x. Factors leave him there or leave him in the youtube comments and and we'll of course be back tomorrow to to break down game one which is hopefully just as entertaining as at least the first two games in the western conference finals have been all right before we start wrapping this up. We had other big news last night. This feels like it happened like ten days ago to. I don't know why but the detroit pistons finally lucked out in the nba lottery. And they won the number one pick last night their position to draft the consensus prospect oklahoma state star cunningham or go in a different direction. Maybe us senator evan possibility. The rockets cavs raptors magic round out. The top five were showing everybody the lottery results here on youtube. And of course the team. First time in franchise history the pistons draft pick moved up by winning the lottery rather than moving down or staying put. So that's great. They got the first pick a for the first time since nineteen seventy when they took hall of fame. Center bob near the big bob lanier. Yeah it's a big shoes didn't tj giant shoes giant. That's the. That's like one of the two things i got a hall of famer and his shoes are jiang. Yes yup bob lanier. Blouse came cunningham's feet. I'd love to check the combine. Besides the pistons though the question is who is the biggest winner from last night tasks. I'm guessing you would agree with me that it's the raptors because the back half of the draft lottery it went shock. None of the teams that were slotted from like eight through fourteen jumped into the top four selection and then toronto slaughter that seventh. Oma god their their little logo is not there in the card from mark tatum and they jumped up three spots to the fourth overall pick. That's the largest jump than any team made in the lottery this year. This is this is big for wraps fans especially in a draft where the draft experts say. It's a it's a. It's a top heavy traffic where it's like maybe your top four or five. You're like wow. You're very excited about any of the players. That you you get at that number there but i will throw in houston as a second winners went from possibly having the number eighteen. Pick to having the number two pick. That's good that's that's very very good but yeah of course Saying the raptors up there even though they finished in the worst spot that they possibly could after jumping to the top four so the the drama the television got me at the wait for that commercial. Break thinking that wraps are going to be jamming at the top. Then you know big ben. Wallace swatted them down to the four swat because he works hard great defense. But yeah you know. I wore this championship from stefan. Vassilev this championship shirt for today because it feels like a bit of a championship. it's the deep trafford. Yes it's top-heavy hold on a deeper as the top heavy which what is it doesn't matter. We'll we'll have some draft experts on as we get closer and closer to the draft because this is the one one thing we do not pretend to know a ton about like watching the highlights and the big names and stuff like that wraps winners rockets big winners. You're right. and of course the pistons very happy for their fans biggest loser though. Tk who would you go with from the draft lottery last night while the biggest loser personally for me. Dabbles lost their pick to the magic and four of the top five picks in this top. Heavy draft skates are going to the eastern conference of those one going to the pistons and one going to the cavs who the bulls will be playing a lot after missing the in pretty bad beat for chicago last night but i don't think they're actually the biggest losers that to me is got to be the thunder. They had a chance at two top five picks heading into the lottery that fifty two percent chance that bears finishes in the top five plus a forty eight percent chance that houston would drop to number five. If that helps you got two top fives in a loaded draught including a local number one prospect instead. They dropped all the way down to number six and had previously lost a coin. Toss with the cleveland cavaliers. Who moved up to number three so glad stuff for the thunder last night if the raptors got a gift after a season feels almost the reverse for the fun blatantly tanked as hard as they possibly could and then had terrible lottery luck. You hate to see it. Yeah they lose this something like final twenty one of their last five games when they were just sitting every guy imaginable. O'shea your footsore now. Oh what's wrong with you migraine. Don't play bradley was too good at one point. You're like you can't blame for us anymore. Yeah the basketball. God said no. No no come on. That was a little too blatant for our liking and did not reward them leonie any other winners or losers to add from last night. Well only the timber wolves also lose their pick goes to the warriors if that fell into the top three. I think the wolves would have kept up. But it didn't so that's from the andrew weakens trade so the warriors just steal another little asset out of that deal and that's tough of the tobu's 'cause obviously they would love to get some more young talent on that team so as it stands right now. I believe the wolves do not have a first round pick in this year's draft which is look tougher them We'll any of these top. Let's say ten picks be moved in a big deal here as we get closer to the actual draft to so a lot of kings fan saying they gotta do everything they can to try. And get ben simmons with their pick. Whatever players it would take to try and entice daryl morey and the sixers to to make a move there. We'll see we'll see as we get closer and closer. Like i said we'll bring in some draft experts and we'll start coming up with all the hypotheticals. 'cause esters experts. Would you trade. The number four pick. I don't your radically. you're a team. That's close and made a star would help more than draft pick. Let's talk in a heartbeat to who though for who pence. Hey bradley beal is the biggest name that's gettable out there. I think so. You'd have to have some draft knowledge to know that the guy at number four isn't going to be the equivalent of bradley beal somewhere down the road like think that anyways at least had really good sort of scorer and they think in the half court the wraps could. That's the wraps flaw right. Like half court offense. They need that. So it's bill is jalen greenback. I right away. I don't know. I mean that's what again people say he could be timeline. Turn and trade. Kyle lowry for some sort of future prospects as well so play both sides perfectly do do it. Now do it. Later get get a future asset for kyle lowry because think the thunder have to trade up. I mean i don't understand why they accumulate all these draft picks to obviously it's hurtful. It's hurtful to drop trae outlined very well but even for the beginning of the season at the fact that is the play in tournament worked for this reason. The only team that was tanking from day one was the thunder and usually in a season. The ac- like three four or five teams not trying to win but twenty nine hundred thirty teams. We're trying to win and The thunder go from yet trying to be bad and polka chefs case into many frigging shots. Al horford shea said yeah everybody sit and yeah so it is definitely karma but at the same time presi can't be sitting on these picks thinking i love this number six. We've got. They've got to try and move up right they have to. They'll they'll probably give it a go. Final question what the draft lottery. We did a happy hour last night. So that's really my favorite moment. Just hang with you guys going over salmon recipes. This is what i really liked. But from the actual draft itself. I'll answer i my favorite moment and said it when we were live doing. Our show is like well. That's somebody clip that and posted right away. Please ultimately the ring or maybe i. It was swin cash and her reaction to the pelicans not moving up in the draft. So good i love it so much. It's a great reaction. You can use that for so many things. And also power set a blazer ecologist. An awesome can't tell but looks like a blouse with who knows what action. Lee anything else that you are a fan of. We were pumped about ben wallace. He looks still awesome for him. Getting the number one pictures at work in the draft like you said what a great quote he's best and did you bring good luck charm. He said no. I'm good luck charm. Figure after all the work i put in nothing but good things can happen. How how does he write about that. Hard work pays off when it comes to ball just bouncing around in a harbor on the on the happy era. Just would've liked him in the big white like sweat sweatband headband. Remember ben wallace. But he didn't it last night he doesn't need latkes intimidate those balls. They're not going to be gonna get anyone else. Don't usually get like a zach lowe article where he's like in the back room raph lottery is happening. It's like i know ben. Wallace wasn't back there as well. But that'd be a funny story if he was he's just staring at that lottery. Ball machine just like growling at it. All comes up summer task. Anything else that jumped out at you. It's the year the big man. You had ben wallace and akeem olajuwon those guys battling for the number one and number two picks sitting there in their chairs battling in different rooms I guess i mean. I was not paying attention. We're we we watched basically just martinez pull out the fourteen cards and no disrespect. Espn's coverage because it's they do what they need to do to make it interesting. But i feel like. I'm a winner because i didn't watch half an hour that i watched twelve minutes. You know because it's just it's just here's the prospects and i would have got to know the prospects a little bit more if i did watch the entire half hour. Because that's what they do. They talk to the players. I know nothing about college ball so that would have been beneficial for me. So actually maybe anna loser but it was. It was entertaining. I guess sure. I guess there aren't moments. We we talked about it yesterday. Are there moments. I mean now not not really like we won or crap. We did move up. Who is that old. Pacers woman had a sort. They just hype to her after. They did have leonard. Perhaps leonard's yes just just a quick reaction shot people you know clip it and again captured it or whatever that's it but you're not much happens. Laura more entertaining in the actual draft night. When you see what everybody's wearing and some of the things said about them and some of the old exposed takes that come out of potential draft night. I don't know about this guy. This guy is not that great and then ten years later than an mvp and clipping all right skeets. Let's say you get chosen as the raptors draper draft representative. Yeah do you go in knowing you've got to reactions you gotta have gotta have a happy one and you gotta have a disappointed one. Are you brainstorming ahead of time. Do you have a draft board for your lottery reality. Great question never thought about it. I wouldn't even plus plan for a disappointed reaction. Don't her and set only plan. Like what am i gonna do. We jump up to the top floor where we get the number one but i also liked your topless for top four and that backfired like would they let go topless. I think so just sitting at the podium no-shirt on everybody else in suits like let's go for. I don't know. I don't know but i wouldn't plan for the bad outcome. Those are the funniest reactions because they're real swing casually and the people said you'd have temper boy reaction zone better. Yeah okay. let's get call. Let's take one more break here before we get to lease tweet of the night. The beginning of any journey can feel daunting. You're not sure you're heading in the right direction. And maybe you don't know exactly what to prepare for with credit karma. You can become more informed about what's ahead. Credit karma is game changing technology shows you tailored offers for credit cards personal loans that you're more likely to be approved for so you can apply with more confidence. They use your credit and other financial information to show you custom recommendations whether you want cashback travel rewards or to consolidate debt credit karma can. Help you find the offers that fit your goals with a selection of options and approval. 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Beam know what's up and they realized that the loss of the commute between the office and home has affected how we wind down at the end of the day. This is so true they wanna help us beat the burnout and reclaimed the hour of six to seven pm as our own our bourbon. Time if you will works for me up and dabbling in bourbon time get myself a nice rock class through a nice big ice cold cube in there at a little gym. Hit the front porch. I never feel more american than when i'm sitting on the front porch between six and seven pm having a nice gym. That just feels like an american thing to me tasks. I don't know you used to sit on the front porch at your house. I don't know if you're doing the news. It's a nice. It's a nice southern. Us thing yeah. Everybody's got to have a front porch down here. Just drive by those front porches. Admire those things to raise a glass to someone walking dog by down the street. Nice a nice time to salute and put dog. 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And i think this is just such a great image the most famous basketball player of all time really putting his name out there in touching it to the women's game which i think is Just a significant monumental for the game because the wnba certainly has grown over the last couple of years in terms of its You know appeal and the games and that but still there's a big difference in terms of how much money the game generates and how much money the women then earn to play. Now there are still you know plenty of Bridges that we have to cross. But i think when you have the biggest name on the man side. They're really promoting it and marketing the game. That's going to help. And i just think that's a. That's an awesome for For michael jordan brand for jump jump man brand and four women's basketball and not just within america across the world so congratulations to Jump men and women's basketball good stuff. Did you see a trait. You probably do. 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KD 4 MVP, Clips Are Title Contenders & Other Wild Overreactions

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KD 4 MVP, Clips Are Title Contenders & Other Wild Overreactions

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Jd's got tweeted tonight but this is also a tradition really at the start of a season. Gentlemen we play a little. It's just one game but where we just completely overreact to forty eight minutes from a particular game. we'll start with the warriors. Nets to brooklyn nets dismantled. The warriors won twenty five to ninety nine in the first game of the season. So let's completely overreact. Tass where do you wanna start. It's just one game but what do you have. I think it's fitting to overreact. Because it seemed like the entire internet was overreacting to watching a basketball game. It's like they've never seen a basketball game before. But i'll jump in on. It is just one game but kevin durant will not win the mvp. He won't because the nets are going to be too good. they're going to be teams out in the first half that he's not going to have to play in the second half that's how good he's going to be. No i i picked kevin durant to be my mvp. Because i think just the fact that he hasn't been around for a long time people kind of forgot. How good k. D. is i'm like dr dre and slim shady here. Have you guys who earns spying forgot forgot about. Thanks for the inspiration boys. I just think that the nets i know. They looked fantastic last night. And i do legitimately think kevin durant can win. And i don't think he's even feeling all that great at this point he looks good. He's so comfortable getting his shot off at any point when there's a hand in his face no problem but i just say he's not one hundred percent because he was seven of sixteen. He was missing bunnies the floating to the baseline getting that shot of pull up threes. The dunks and i think we also forget about the defensive side of the ball. He had a big block. Slamming that ball into the backward. He had a charge that he took of people forget. Also that he's seven foot and he plays the four. He's gonna play some five a win. All of a sudden. Done for steve nash's team. I'm not just going to say. Hey the brooklyn nets are going to win the conference Because i i do think they kinda get get together defensively. And they were playing a short handed warriors team but katie day. One the best player on the nets even if kyrie had a better night. And he's back baby and he is not injured whatsoever. It feels good to be watching. Kevin durant play ball again. Does it's like no other watching experience in the nba. Katie is one of a kind with how it was awesome. I saw this question going around on twitter last night from this blowout game and i'll start with you. Was this more of a good omen for the nets moving forward or a sign of bad things to come for the warriors if you have to go one way or the other. I'm sure it's a combination of both always the case you have to pick one of the other is this like wow katie kyrie. The nets look and scary scary. Good or the flip side of it like drain on there. Of course no clay just steph offensively and what. They really not much of a defensive effort as well that the warriors are in troubling. Which way do you go here. Well okay with the warriors. I but draymond green was also missing last night. Obviously he's a huge part of their defensive identity. But i just thought they were. We're very very bad last night steph curry of course we know he's a fantastic player but other than that they got really no good contributions from anybody and defensively. I mean i talk about that. Big baseline dunk. Kevin durant pascal. Came out and just basically escorted him to the basket thing. And that that steve. Kerr talked about this after the game. He said they competitiveness and their defensive intensity just was not there and then that's the thing i mean it was it was a pretty much the ideal start star for steve nash and the nets because it was more a glorified pla- practice round rarely full and there was no rush at all sure and again draymond green is going to improve that defense but not to the point where last night was like okay they can be an instant contend to win draymond. Green comes back. They've got a lot of other problems at the another younger inexperienced guys. James watson started or thought. He was okay for a rookie in his first game. Yeah but those sorts of things like the defensive intensity you know that's not going to come in game two game three that's that's years and years sort of learning system in your learning how to play in the nba. So you know guys like kelly oubre. Who was this awning offensively. He did a couple of things he didn't shoot the ball all that well but they do need some more defensive presence out there and i think that's the thing with the warriors going forward obviously klay thompson after the season as a very good defender he's inexperienced defendable in the not going to get him back. So that's where i worry for the warriors i just i think i. I think this was bad. I think we expected the nets to be good and they were good but also the game was over and this was over in the second quarter. Y- there's not a whole lot you can really take out of that from the nitzan and to you. See them going up against a much stronger. Defensive team yeah awesome start though of course for katie and the entire nets team. I mean they got a deep roster over there as well so task feeling pretty good about the Katie for vp. Pick early after one game. Despite like you said not even having the best thing a stat line it was just so easy off wallis grim to oh nobody not not a chance. That's a part of it. I mean dream ongeri would have made a big difference for this warriors. Trae overreact. The warriors are going to miss the playoffs this year. You guys already hit on all of it. And i don't necessarily know that. It's an overreaction steph curry. I don't think he's gonna be enough to lift this warriors team past the wild card. I don't know if bring him back draymond green when he returns from his time out is even going to be enough. Because there's just not enough shooting around steph curry without klay thompson. Play their and their defense like you guys are saying. Don't make up for it. Kelly oubre andrew wiggins. They're making forty eight billion dollars. The season they went to twelve from three last night. You said lee that kelly oubre did a few things offensively and he made a smart play yesterday by having his baskets actually be hundred percent highlight basket who bray is really sliding by. Everybody is crushing wiggins today. No doubt about it. But kelly oubre went three for fourteen. You just have a dunk of the night. So you know you weren't willing to let them slide on this one. A little bit boob. Ray was pretty bad. Wiggins was pretty bad. Like you said why. It's been actually all right in. Its first start after having no preseason big play in any college basketball stroke in the three ball hit a couple of other longer jumpers. Look like he was moving while out. There didn't necessarily look like he had his nba. Timing going up to catch lobs things like that. But if the warriors are going to have any chance of making it to the sixth seat or higher. I think they almost have to go full. James harden with steph curry. Just give him the ball and run pick and roll every single time whether it be with wise men or draymond whenever he gets back. But you know having steph curry playoff the ball while andrew wiggins is handling up top. That's a no for me down. It's weird thinking back on this game. It's like i can remember curry scoring. i remember bring dunker too. I remember wise scoring like a handful. Touch and i feel like that's it. You don't know how they got ninety. Nine points is like where did the rest of them come. But had ten assists ten other shots were made besides stuff. I don't know and it's very weird. Yeah rough rough rough surf. Almost these guys. Two for ten from a distance obviously rough but lee where you go and i have a feeling we gotta get here to wiggins takas luna to abandon weakens island immediately media so coming into the season one of the predictions i invite on this show is that i think that andrew wiggins i can envision a scenario where andrew weakens actually leaves the warriors only warriors the league in scoring and considering look in the first two minutes he had to three point is one of them was so wide open. It was unbelievable. The other one was fairly what the first one and so i. Actually i actually think i was riding my prediction and in that the warriors need him and again look to him to school. He just couldn't do it. That's the problem he do it and there was a couple of threes. Okay fine that's fine but then he had the baseline drive. And i think that's what prompted the tweet from you. This is going to be offered to lead the show. Yeah and then he had a sort of which maybe he was a little bit too far away to euchre but he kind of went up and just lost the ball immediately kevin durant and then he had another sort of floated in the line that miss than just clogged off and this was like. It couldn't have been a worse situation for andrew weekends. They lost not because honestly he's their second most lethal score at that team right now. Yeah and so. The warriors are basically like yeah. We need you to go to school. We need to go out there and do it. They gave him the opportunity. They put him in position to score but he was just awful. Just absolutely awful so in some ways you hope that this is a situation whereas i flushed down the toilet comeback to the next game because again. They need him back. They need him to be scoring if if he's not doing that then he's almost no point in having on the court so it it's it's a bad situation but it was fun. It was fun on twitter last night but it was. You know the situation is there that the war is basically like. Listen your athletic. You can get to the rim. You're going to get three points. You have to hit some of them. Some of them At any wasn't able to do that last night but it's fun it's fun isn't it being it's fun it's horrible. Yeah you gotta coconuts already. He's got that ability. It's kind of a bit like jeff green. I guess something sort of lose you to sort of feel like maybe it's time maybe he's just gonna shake this off and break of it but he wasn't able to do it last night and i honestly i felt bad for him because it was the first game and from the very first tip and from the first two minutes of the game. He clunk on his shot. He was trending worldwide on twitter. So i feel bad for him. I hope he doesn't check twitter. I can shake it off defender in the next game. But i saw people saying he's not even the best canadian on the. That's like you got older there. Jeff green lay great tweet from ben. Dietrich said jeff. Green standing across the court from andrew wiggins like the ghost of christmas future as crazy. Man you saw jeff green get a dunk last night. Yes he's going to be the first guy that has a highlight tape at the end of his career. Jeff green's dunk from every nba team. Thirty dunks from thirty guys everywhere. I guess wiggins can make a run at it because like you're saying he's going to have shots because the other team is going to give him shots. I think the guy is to muscle up right now. He doesn't have great flexibility to begin with. And now he's all bulked up. Jack's nikola to both of nick wiggins seeing them with their new bodies. I was like these guys. Heads must be shrinking out there. But that was discouraging from wiggins like he went baseline for a dunk. There was nobody by. He goes up for a layup and botches it. I remember we used to say. Let's get this guy in the slam dunk contest whilst through down a seven twenty from the free throw line and practice. Now he's botching layups come on man. Look i mean as we know one wiggins island for whatever reason there's a bunch of subway sandwich shops so lee. The only way we're getting off this island is just make a bunch of like six inch or twelve inch subs and we got like string them together. Like using plastic straws and like build a raft together. Ain't nobody coming to get us. Let's on wiggins island there for like what is he even get people to come to the. That's the real quest. He's going to have in two or three weeks time here three-game sample where he won't miss those three. He'll go five for six him. maybe he'll maybe catch a body and surprise strike well dunk the hill. Entice this and then we'll be like on this island's grade what is going to be coming because spins mechanica. Fine when he shoots. he looks comfortable. He gets his feet set. Gets into position. And it's just like. Oh my god come on man not one of those dan because i was hoping for the opposite i was hoping you might have like an eighteen point first half and i'm like see i told you and instead it was just cam does he. Does he look muscley. I think he looks exactly the same. You may have been. There was definitely photos at a training camp. Where he looked like he was jacked out on the court last night he didn't actually didn't sort of eighty those are broader. Yeah the shoulders are. I mean my favorite photo from training camp. The training camp era is his shoulders. Inflated like he's lebron james you know. The photoshop will lebron. They've done that to andrew wiggins where he looks huge but he just look like a normal guy. And if you're on an island you have all the time in the world to work out man. I'm not sure why he's not bigger. You could be weird. Part is andrew wiggins the question mark as he is every year. I feel like kelly oubre. Yeah he's skating by his trae said but he can't be a question mark and i think coming into the season he's been traded twice already There's been lots of rumors about him in his career about not being an extremely great player on their team. We're not not fitting in well and there's a reason why he has been traded a couple of times if you have to question marks on the wings on this team where you have klay thompson. I mean they're done. Ca- kelly oubre difference maker. He's going to be good then. They're they're done. It sure feels like that. I like draymond. Green is going to help out get everybody in the right position. Everything but if you're you're starting wings are going to float in and out then especially in the western conference so tough. Let's go back to brooklyn. Let me overreact. It's just one game but then nets do not need james harden. I can't believe i'm saying it. But that's the whole point of this segment. I don't think they need them. And that's why because he's incredible. He's one of the best players in the game but the nets as we saw last night in one game small sample size man that is a deep bullpen That steve nash coaching staff can go to. They've got a lot of solid to above average behind their stars and thirty two of them. Do you need a third now. That's old news. You don't need the three headed monster anymore. You just go with the duo now. It's back to jam style in the nba. But i'm half joking. But i'm also not. Because they like there was a particular play in the first half dinwiddie jared allen pick and roll up in the side on the corner. Didn't he finds allen. Who's in the middle. He's gotta make a decision in a draymond green spot. Joe harris in the other corner. Nice pass right on. The money splash wide open. Three those three guys. You know some of those guys would be james harden trade. I don't think harris would be but dinwiddie for sure probably alan. The rockets would want back. And then yeah kessler. Who was the third best player last night for the nets twenty nine and five off the bench when we were making our predictions. I said i don't know who's gonna win six man. Because i don't know if din winnie starting or care slivered is starting so whoever doesn't that's my sixth man. So i guess it's lavar after one game steve nash talking to him up about being a ginobili like a difference maker coming off the bench and closing games and close games and stuff like that awesome. Start so i don't know about you guys. I know trae your your man of the stars. You'll love hardened to but would you even admit like the role players on the nets after one game. That's a nice fit. They have around those guys with deondraye. Being a big jared alemi make all the wings like their third their third rotation. If you want to call it that like they're scrub guys are guys that are actually like would be like the ninth or tenth. A lotta teams like probably kubrick's and tlc and time guys were playing playoff minutes last year. So this is a deep deep team. So i think there's no way if you're sean marks that you make a hardened trae now i think you at least oh it to what you have right there with your staff and this roster to say let's see how we start because if they start you know nine and one or fourteen in to whatever it is then you don't want to mess with the chemistry you got going with the burning of kyri in katie looking good. They're going to be waiting. And this is bad news. If anyone for the rockets who if they want to move go to brooklyn brooklyn just going to keep taking pieces off the board here to make a potential trade because they're in my mind in no rush to make it happen. I don't know what you think trae. Well you don't win championships by going nine into in december and january and this is going to be a little bit like an extended preseason at the beginning of the season. We definitely need to remember this nets game though because this is as good as they can look. They look perfect. Like we're talking about kevin durant could win. Mvp might not have even been the best player on the nets last night because like you're saying staging works. I'm starting at for sure around here. And i was in his bag when he hit that. Poll up from the side logo there. You're like oh my goodness. This team looks unbeatable. Surely they'll be beatable. They'll have a bad couple of weeks and we'll be like oh man. Look at the chemistry. It's terrible out there. File this one away in your brain alz. They still take the star skates. I picked the nets in the finals. Because i think that their team is completely underrated. Because we're looking at them through the lens of are they worth at. James harden care. Sliver jared allen spencer dinwiddie i would still rather have james harden. He's an mvp. He puts your team in the playoffs every year. I don't know if that's necessarily the case with the nets though. They have been making the playoffs every year with a guys the maybe not title contender status. But yeah those guys have become completely underrated because of who they might be might be traded for. Furthermore you know everybody says all right they're bringing back katie and kyrie. That's awesome for the offense who's gonna play defense. Then that's finished ninth and defensive efficiency last season. I think we're just kind of forgetting that. The nets have been able to be a competitive well organized team for the past couple of years. Obviously steve nash is now the coach. There surprises me every time. They show him on the sideline. Oh yeah oh yeah exactly right hype for what. The nets looked like on the court. It's easy to forget steve nashes. They're supposedly telling people what to do. Yeah that's great last night but you know your ten th and eleven men. They're not going to be playing in the playoffs. But james harden would. Yeah that's fair. And i think brooklyn needs to avoid the mistake that the clippers may be made last season and that is like. Don't pretend like you've already won the championship. Because of the star power you have in the deep roster you have you gotta earn your way into that championship conversation but what you actually do on the dance floor and don't just like hold yourself in this sort of championship esteem. now katie's titles kyrie's got that they've been there and got a couple same has been true for though i just want them to sort of like pretend like they're a weird underdog because of everyone like piled on kyri before the doubted katie. Coming back from the injury after five hundred and fifty regular days off or whatever use that and maybe it helps at nashes even your coach li like a guy that never got a title and maybe he can sort of instill that they just can't go down that clippers road from last year where they sort of pretended they were already. You know a title contender because of their roster and their make up their star players. I don't think that's a concern that we kept on the roster really. I think he understands that the regular season. he's got that lebron mentality. I think that you know the regular season is important. But it's really what happens in the playoffs. I mean that's what it comes down to. If me with kevin and i just think he's a different planet in that sense to hawaii. Leonard and paul georgia's well cari main. He's also someone who you know he has. He thinks differently and speaks differently. But he's also been in those big moments and he understands. Well that's what happens in the playoffs. So i'm not i'm not overly concerned. I think that clip a situation because it was a clip in these two guys came together Both together in that off season and there was a little bit of a feeling out process law season playing even though obviously he came to rent didn't play last season but he was on that roster and i think now they just understand what happened there in los angeles and they don't want to happen there in brooklyn so i i'm not overly concerned by that. I think steve. Nash is the right guard manage because he's worked with kevin durant before so i think they'll understand that and and that's something that i think the nets Take the approaches season of like. Let's just get through the regular season whether we finished second first third doesn't really matter. It's what's going to happen in the playoffs. That's where we can really show. We're a team. That's the true title contender. Yeah i think you're probably right Tasks what'd you think of the broadcast last night. I know there was a lot of people on twitter. Upset with the audio being all out of sorts. Felt like you could sorta here the missed shot before you saw the missed shot and obviously these guys are being asked. I'm talking about the men and women that are putting the broadcast. Tnt and eventually espn. Like your remote. you've got broadcasters. In different parts of the country know how many you got remote cameras all that. what did you think overall. Did they do a fair job. The appearance of it all what they do with the arena. What's your take thought. They needed some more saging. I i question was there saging pre-game with kyrie because i didn't see any footage and show it did they. Yeah i think he's planning on saging innints on the road. Yeah had a home game. So i guess theoretically. He's just saying off camera all the time. I got to be some bad spirits in the barclays center boys true. Maybe stu in the locker meri's doing it hours before pre-game yeah. It's a very difficult task for them. To marvin and chris webber there on the first broadcast to. I think they did a good job of drumming up excitement but it's also strange hearing at jd. Correct me if i'm wrong. But these guys are on a mike and their mike has no feedback whatsoever. No no no sound coming in like a like a regular arena where you have some fans in the background and so that just seemed it seems silent when they talked and so that kind of for me kinda sucked the life out of the game. I know the arenas Kind of quiet in itself. But i think like the way they pumped in for the for the arenas to some degree. I think you kind of have to do that. For the mics. To and yeah there are a little delayed. I don't know how much you can do about that. But i think you just gotta pump up the sound. I think that's just the important part. Audio is everything j. d. Ah video i think was pretty good. I think the league has sent down. You know the protocols to try and make it look like the bubble Every every arena to try to get rid of the empty seats. I think barclays did a really really good job of that of a. You know putting their logo over the seats and also on the near side. They've made it all black like centerfield of a baseball game. I went to the guy asked the audio and the technical elements that is struggling here on the show. The last couple tassie is straight up frozen. We'll get back. What did you think tray with regards to the presentation. They're in a tough spot. Man calling a game remotely. It's no different than us watching at home and talking with people at you're trying to work out. Which player is that and did the ball actually go through their legs nutmeg attempt. I thought that was hilarious. When we ran back a highlight. That just wasn't the perfect looking. It's obviously not ideal to have broadcasters calling the game remotely but it's also a whole lot safer so we gotta deal with it. I'm not gonna complain. I was just happy to have basketball back last night. If feels like the season started right away it feels like there was no time off and then it hit four o'clock yesterday. I'm like what is taking so long this walking around the house. I'm like isla. What do you think about. Kyrie irving and kevin durant getting together on the court. You think kyrie is going to post up too much. She's like i dunno. Can we watch my little pony. No can't we gotta do some scouting here but they finally came back. There were some tough moments no doubt on the broadcast but i'm also not entirely convinced that my audio wasn't messed up as well. I kind of felt like my audio was lined up perfectly which means it must have been totally out of face like like when my when the ball was hit in the rain and it was hitting right on for me but i must have been. That mine was messed up. Mine was the one that was messed up. Fixed it interesting. Did you have any problems. Same sort of things. What you guys assigned. It's kind of frustrating. Because you like you understand the circumstances right now. Any basketball is better than no basketball. He's a sorts of things. We just have to accept the deal with for the time being. But when you're watching the game and the game you know it kind of sucked as well so yeah so to stay focused on the game and then the audio is kind of annoying as well so it was not a great start. Not a great start. Let's hope that the clippers and lakers game is a little bit better but again considering all the circumstances right now It was just fun to have basketball back meaningful games back again and honestly seeing kevin durant out there again. I mean that's really what it was. It was such a great basketball player to see him out there just in his full flow again. Looked like he was enjoying the game. Didn't look like he was enjoying his postgame interview there but but again for what we do for a living to see some of the best players in the world actually at their best last car had a couple of moves day with the handles going where he was looking pretty sexy. Those are the things that. I'm taking out of the game rather than those little minor frustrations that we had with the actual broadcast of it. Look let's be honest to if they're asking marv albert to do this remotely. Marv albert is an eighty year. Old man do not forget that. And i'm sorry. He has lost his fastball over the years when he was in person because he's getting up there so now you're asking him he's obviously some other booth somewhere and his his co. announcer whatever play by. Excuse me color. Commentator is like somewhere else. that's a big ask. Because i thought it i thought it was a little smoother with harlan and i just think that's because he's you know he's a younger guy and maybe you just like on a little bit more so i thought it was a little more jarring on the marv call. Because it's he's being asked to do something he's probably never done in his life before again at the age of eighty after doing it for what sixty years one way and then you're like no no now you're just going to be calling in in this closet here. Just watch this television screen. That's that is a big ask. Yeah you gotta wear a suit. I like that indicators. Were all wearing suits. The coaches are the players are these guys are dressed up. That's right that's right. You've got to look good on. Television are show canceled. You said the inside the nba. Cloudy katie's postgame interview tasks. I believe you're back. did you catch that. Katie was quite frank especially with the charles barkley question though was a horrible question up for a yes or no answer. So katie draft a. Yes though that said usually these guys you know they say a little bit more but kurt and then as soon as they wrap up the interview of course the inside guys run with it making a gag which i thought was actually pretty funny but what did you think or do we need to the is back. Yeah that was funny. That was really good. Actually didn't see it. My internet wasn't working last night. So yeah so strange. The the guys who are in a good mood the inside the nba guys from the opening tip. Well pre-game i should say there pre-game they had their do lipa and gone again. I'd like charleston shack basically grilling everybody in their post game interviews. They wouldn't let durant off the hook. They didn't let paul george off the hook really. Didn't think after the lakers clippers game. Maybe these guys are getting into their capital. J. journalism bags here. It's going to be exciting to see. But i don't know i do like the interaction between them and the players especially with guys kevin durant and paul george who you know. Everybody's been wanting to talk to after the way the offseason transpired. This episode is brought to you by ten ten. Now you may have read about this in the new york times or forbes and we're excited to tell you about ten. Ten is an exclusive collection of ten one of a kind engagement rings designed by ten of the most distinctive designers working today using only diamonds responsibly. Sourced from botswana ten design masters have each produced a uniquely beautiful commitment ring whilst exclusively on january eighteenth at blue nile dot com. And when they're gone they're gone. We all know that the diamond engagement ring is iconic. It's a timeless expression of the deepest commitment between two people and with ten ten. 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There in la over the lakers are trae guinness started though let's over-react you can either go on the quarter off the court wherever you want. What are you what are you got well. I think it's funny skates how you mentioned the bitter rivals between the lakers and the clippers. Because you know. We've seen now. Since paul george and kawhi. Leonard signed with the clippers. We've now seen three season debut games. Basically right Opening night last night bubble opening and opening night last season and we saw lakers clippers and every single one of them. Now we got letter quite leonard. Hasn't signed yet. Paul george long-term there. Anthony davis long-term laker lebron long-term laker. We're gonna be seeing lakers clippers on for the next five seasons and any restarts. We may be doing but is it. Is it as a rivalry because the lakers unveiled their championship battery last night. But they've got so many of them that they didn't even have to unveil their championship vander. They'll just saying hey. We're going to wait until the fans get here. You know what it's like celebrating championships. But since the fans can be the lakers had to do something very special so it's just one championship celebration but family ring. Night is an absolute keeper for me. This was so cool. Saying all the lakers family sending in their video messages to the players on the team congratulating them on last season's championship getting their gigantic rings. This year i love seeing markeith morris's daughter just screaming at the top of her lungs. I was like. Yep you're marquee morrison daughter violetta. Great family marcus. They're laying for the clippers. Videotaping his brother getting his ring. These guys got each other's backs. They got each other's back tattoos. I love it. Also great seeing jaanus wishing coast championship. Congratulations let's get more rings specifically me the one who want to have the rings. I thought that was great and lebron sons. I thought were also very to just the fact that they're like this guy's been the greatest since we've been watching basketball another championship. Perfect mix for them to be celebrating. A lebron lakers championship. Whatever it's like. If you're a really rich person i've been watching the marvel movies a lot. Lately i've been keeping track of tony stark's cars license plates changed. He just had one. That said stark twenty three. So i'm like he's got at least twenty three cars when you get to that many. You're like you can just send a picture of it. I'll show it to you when it come over. That's what the lakers are doing with their champions. You know what it looks like. Just say twenty twenty. It looks like the other sixteen. We've got the numbers. I don. I thought for a night. When the lakers weren't one hundred percent into the game there was a reason behind it and the ring ceremony. It was great. You know eventually fans are gonna be back in the building. But i i don't know i like seeing their families introduce them a lot more than i like. Seeing adam. Silver or even. Their teammates introduced because these their family members. The people who've been supporting him for their entire careers their entire lives right. Like it's got to be crazy. Gloria james to say yeah. I gave birth to lebron. I remember how hard it was when we were three years old now. This guy is winning his fourth championship for the most famous team in the nba. It was awesome to see and it was fun for everybody. Yeah i think you gotta give a little show to the phoenix suns for starting this whole thing right. Weren't they the i team in the bubble to come up with the family introductions for the squad and then we saw other teams doing another raptors did it and then yeah lakers take it next level. I'm with you. This is a keeper. It's like the guys faces. I'm about the players like they just all light up to like when they're seeing their adorable family for the most part congratulate daddy on the ring and stuff like that so good well if not all of them had kids as my brawny irwin rosie o. Brings it up Brawny not the happiest of kids little brownie just kind of like why am i doing. He didn't say anything but he just kind of slow. Bryce was even more areas like he. He's the one doing all the talking. All right congrats brunson's he sounded just like lebron. I thought it was just like kim. Zuri saved it for sure. Yeah but also having some kids from the. I promise school. There's cool yeah. I thought that was it was. It was so well done by the lakers. They've done a great job in a tough year in all their ceremonies that they've had and i thought last night try all i'd just knocked that out of the park was so well done. He's going to be very odd to go from that next year to. Maybe adam silver the civil here because it's not the same it doesn't have that same values that coming from their little kids screaming getting face on the big screen having a great time. Why can't you do both. Why can't you you have the videos. And then adam silver gives them each ring. I mean it's just it's really the same thing got him somewhere doesn't do much but what i was confused with. A lot of the guys took their rings. Put it on their ring finger. Oh it doesn't fit your got fitted. Yeah i'm so confused by that. And why would you get the pinkie ring. I don't get that. They want to be pinky ring a championship ring at seem strange to me. Lebron is the only one you could justify for the pinky ring. 'cause it's number four guys. Actually i like how yannis said gupta wasn't too too proud to not do it for coastal in a perfect balance of like. We're proud of you bro. But also i'm get mind too so don't you worry you got the lead right now. I loved it. I thought it was per box. Fans must be absolutely thrilled. That janas has already signed his next deal. He's showing up in the lakers championship. Celebration video with that deal on sign language. Sign that dotted line. So we're all on board with the family ring. Me gotta keep that moving forward. It's just so so fun. But let's get to the game and let's overreact. Let's get back to that task. Let's see if the fi let's put it to the test here. What do you get a start at. What's your overreaction. For the clippers lakers game first thing to do to bring your wifi back reboot your computer. I called in to tech service. They said unplug it sir. We started works well for me. The overreaction is paul. George is the clippers best player and it's got to be the hair. He breathed out beaming all looking tight. He's it's time to take it serious. We gotta brave this thing. He looked incredible. And it's the thing to do on the clippers. Just like hawaii leonard. Louis overreact to this. It's just one game but kawhi leonard is jewish got a minoru on his head everyone braids or is it just me now. I can't unsee it. No but yeah. I i think like. Anthony davis lebron. There's gonna be some games. Where anthony davis better You know in the finals it could have been. Anthony davis finals. Mvp so paul. George gonna have some games where he's quote unquote better having a better night than he on this night i but i think to me. Those two dudes are taking this seriously and it's easy to overlook that they didn't really have a camp last season because paul georgia's coming off shoulder surgery coming in game one and they're focused. They're they're ready to win from the gecko and I think their their lineup looks a little bit A better even though. They didn't marcus morris in there. I think luke kennard makes a big difference just having another ball handler because people out there saying they have a point guard. They didn't address. That luke is a sort of their backup point guard and is going to do that. And paul. george isn't coming off. Sold shoulder surgery. We'll see in the playoffs. It's very different from regular season ball against lakers. Then it will be in the playoffs. That's going can be totally different. We saw two totally different teams. Two totally different focus levels out there but the clippers i think are gonna win the one seed for that reason because you're pretty close to winning onc- last year was only three and a half games while george was injured. Lots of guys in and out of the lineup. As this year they had a camp and they're focused and they were frigging embarrassed So that's why. I think regular season speaking about that. Strictly about that. I i do think they are going to be the guys that have home court advantage throughout the western conference playoffs. Paul george winning the first wolf boy of the season tweeted it out this morning. Yeah really saw line. Super-efficient hit a bunch of threes. He blew opened the game radio. That ten stretch that sort of open it up for the clippers and they had a huge lead early on then then we had some ugly ask ball in the second quarter. The lakers got back in the game. But then yeah. It really was paul george and kawhi in the second half Taking over what do you got lee. What's your overreaction to it. Well the clippers face their first test last night and they passed it and for reasons. You just mentioned there. What the big blow up for them in the bubble was blowing double digit leads against the nuggets when they were up three one in that series eventually really just whimpering out there in game seven. I didn't fought and last night. They had a twenty point late in that first half and then it was gone by halftime. Sort of felt to me like lebron. The ring often the team that he's getting their rings. i do come out a little bit sluggish. Because it's been an emotional today not for them. And and the clippers came out very very hot and then lebron just decided okay. I'm gonna take over now and got his team back into it. That was gone and the test was gonna be the clippers respond to that because they didn't respond well down in the bubble but in the second half paul george. One of the leaders of that team stepped up. Hit some shots. And i like the way that he got some shots to there. Because he attacked his defenders he went at anthony davis it went inside and just got a little looper in and those other. They tried everyone on him and no one really could stop him. And that's the way it should be when you paul george. He should play like a superstar where it's like. It doesn't matter who's defending me. I'm a bit apply. The new and he got to his spots. Knock dance shots. He was confident and any looked like a leader at there on the floor. So i think again it's one game. It's the first game it's now. It's it's already confined to the history of the nba. But at least the clippers didn't collapse last night because if they blow a twenty point lead in the very first game in the can you just imagine you know what the talk even. Paul george has still that thirty three point game. It's just like the clippers. Just they just can't hold onto elite though. I thought they were good last night. And i thought in that second half against some decent contributions outside of those big i thought lou williams looked a little bit more energized last night. I thought he was bad. Down in the bubble live in points in the end. But he's someone named patrick beverley. You know what you're getting from patrick. Beverley he's feisty he's competitive. He hit a couple shots. I think are actually in the first often. His shots but You know this team has got a lot to prove this season and first game of the season. They face a test and they actually pasta tests. We said they said they could quiet the critics here because there was going to be a lot of them if they lost these games. If they took care of the lakers they did last year on opening night. S trae mentioned and if they can take care of the nuggets who obviously came back and sort of shock the world winning three straight there despite the seventy three one lead who they play in their next game. Here i mean the nba. Just set it up for them they said. Here you go. Do you want a bunch of headlines in a bunch of questions being asked about you right away or do you want to shut everybody up and then we just have to sit and wait until the playoffs and so far so good like you said. They did a they look solid. I thought block. It was a great addition last night. I mean just being able to stretch the floor a little bit big that can knock down the three baucus he can do is added to his game where you have to respect it. He can hit two or three game. He hit two last night. Five or seven overall guts. A line a little bit. Six at block didn't pay a ton of minutes zoo but still got great minutes but great contributions from him. I love that edition if he plays like that. That's a bit of a game changer. In some series in the playoffs but goodwin from the clips. there i. Maybe the question always going to be when it comes down to. How are the clippers. Gonna handle when lebron and eighty at four and five because serge. Ibaka probably is not the answer there. He wasn't the answer when he was going against. Lebron toronto and lebron spinning the ball in his face and draining threes. And i don't necessarily know that he's going to be the answer. Against the anthony davis as well we saw that little jab step go baseline for the slammer. Jammer looked really nice. Anthony davis still looking impressive but it is certainly a reminder that the clippers despite the fact that their season ended very poorly last year and were dunking on them for the entirety of the offseason is still really close to winning a championship. They're still one of the best teams in the league. And they've got such a great mix in paul george and kawhi leonard because paul george. It feels like he pours on the points. Right like tom in a hurry. it's like suddenly. He's going from having seven points in the first half to having thirty in the game by the end of the third quarter. You're like wow. That happened quickly. Whereas lennar like barely paying attention and suddenly he ends with twenty six points in the game. And i just thought seeing some of the takes had last night. His footwork was in credible. He had that one take where he just bodied west matt to us. Wes matthews went flying back into the standard and quite turner's like oh. I'm at the rim right. Rock simple layup. Michael jordan s spins in the lane where you can tortoise body to get the ball up on the rim when those two are ball and it's such a good combination of somebody who heats up in a hurry and somebody who stays hot consistently that they can pile up the points. Do they hit those streaks in the playoffs when it really really matters. Here's coli quiet. paul george. In the mid range i think surges gives them a little bit more space if that helps Totally watching Look at wesley matthews. In the facing saying i'm going right by you was Was school in also got to the rim and had no problem finishing. I think that's what the lakers are gonna miss a little bit with going to get mantras. Herro marcus oh starting in front of him. Rather than mcgee enjoyed howard. There's not as much room defense. Anthony davis is going to be the finish his games. And there's gonna be a lot of room defense when he is on the floor but Yeah it's a nice. I think it's just a nicer balance for the clippers to have zoo bots and surge as surgeries got to be healthy and stay on the floor But he's story right he can't guard. Anthony davis one on one. But he's got that overconfidence He's got that championship pedigree. I think i think that's good for the clippers locker room and he's going to say we can beat this. We can do this and he is. He is A rim deterrently. If lebron is going up against him rather than zoo box at the rim at least surge makes you think a little bit and then i think he's going to be the guy who has to guard. Ad there is no good match up. There is no match for lebron. But marcus morris will probably be that guy to take some time. I have to be on him. Obviously obviously so. It's it's tough. But i think the clippers just have a nicer house with with luke kennard Serge ibaka. But it's funny. I mean last year coming into the year. Two more taliban the lakers and when you think wow when it comes down to lakers lebron eighty. But i mean that's really what it comes down to so called and paul george much talk about surge in all these guys. They have to play like lebron in. Ads slow to play officers. Yeah and here's the other problem. It's just one game but but the lakers couldn't give a shit last night. That's the other truth. i'd better here like good. Good clippers win lakers. Didn't care. I mean as ring night you said it lee a lot of cases where you get those rings your mind somewhere else we to play a game. We also just finished playing baseball. What seventy one days. Ago or whatever. They kept saying on the broadcast. There's this crazy turnaround. They're just like they did not seem invested in this game. They're sloppy got a bunch of new pieces that they're trying to implement of course intruder ingersoll and heroin all that in nineteen turnovers and i saw zillur point this out like thinking about this game. It was close but lebron sat for most of the fourth quarter despite it being like it was like a ten point game which is nothing in the nba. The lakers lost by seven. Lebron check back in after leaving games like seven minutes to go and ellie down seven. That's it three possessions that's weird. He tweaked his ankle though right. That's my point. My point is go ahead clips. Have this one. We really truly don't care. That's what i was taking and holder coaching. The lakers replace significantly less minutes. Five to seven last minutes yet in then ball jordan leonard. Difference i mean. That's a huge difference. Yeah and the clippers took advantage of it and they got the win. I think it's gonna if this is what we could see from the lakers for a good chunk of the season definitely hurts like an chances to win an mvp or defensive player of the year and stuff like that if they limit their minutes and and how hard they lean into that or was this just like i night thing and they're like oh whatever you know we got our rings. They were playing in their rings. And i didn't notice that should be a rule. Is you have to play in your ring. If you're given the ring. But clegg i didn't i like how you put it past the first test but a long way to go here. Okay so those are the games anything to add either from the actual basketball play. What was happening with the presentation. What was going on twitter. I asked lee this. I think you're gonna task. Did you stay up and watch the game or did you do the classic sort of maybe watch a half. Catch the rest of the morning. What'd you do. I did not watch. The second game was a late start of a late start. Know the ring ceremony. They took some time and had it went from the ring ceremony to the inside the nba. Guys that started like ten twenty to ten twenty three so first half. I tuned out at an early wake-up call. Hotel called me about five blue. Okay well you stay up. Yeah i did i did. I'm feeling this morning. i'm not gonna lie. You gotta get you gotta get your your body into that rhythm of these late nights especially as well with looking ahead to tonight's candidate with guys this is gonna be a lot of chaos out there tonight so i don't even know what to do like with. I know i want to do that. Because you watch like eight games at once because you're not really watching any of them And you want to focus on one game. You just saw hope that one's closed but then you gotta keep your eye on of course because people look darius garland's going off tonight. He's like i got a tune into that one. I got into that and then you missed the game you were on. But there's any time to watch darius garland during christmas the only time. I'm supposed to go look at christmas decorations. Christmas lights tonight. 'cause i mean it is christmas. We d annual traditions. Laura's mapping out the schedule she's like. Hey wednesday go look at lights as like. Yeah sure let me. Just check the schedule here. Wait sorry bulls hawks. Eight o'clock are those those sites you wanted to see. I don't wanna see trae young. And zach levine. Going head to head. The girls love seeing stars. There's two all star wars spin there at least it gets dark enough early slipped in there before the games okay. We'll get tonight's pickup. We've got to do it. Of course yesterday task wasn't on the show either so we just forgot but don't worry we'll get back into that where we pay it off. Whoever comes in last for the month. Although i'm sure we'll take this one. Maybe into january. We'll talk about it in a second but first jd. Oh baby you get the first tweet of the night tweet. Oh wow too here. I am here jeeze self and then oh. It's the first show back like the first day back at school anyway. Tweeted the night so we actually have to put a little pin it. Because i think we have an old fashioned beef brewing over here so off the top of the show. We played the new track from young center and freaky reindeer. Mary reindeer sorry freeze reindeer freak. Okay well anyways. Mary mary access to your mom and it was purifier. Everyone was loving it but there were a couple of comments in the chat that i noticed from a guy called abstinence elf and he actually seemed pretty pissed and i grabbed a couple of them and i wanted to sort of share them here outrageous while it was playing outrageous. Grab okay shame on you. Young santa shame on you frequent. Yeah just spoke with mother. She's beside herself. I've never seen her so upset. So i think he was thinking you were talking about his mother specific lol. Yeah made her. Come twice this sean. Not stand distract coming. Why okay then. So then at ten forty distract complete. I just emailed it to you. Play it you cowards. So sharon out check our email. We gotta a tracking there. So i'm gonna play so here comes. That's right. This is going out to young santa freaky reindeer. I'm asking myself. And i must take exception to the slander. You spat my mother's direction. Wonderful woman best kind of she taught me that it's not to be touching myself lyrics. Drudge and your work. 'cause i'm here to tell y'all asked him. It's no one gets pregnant. He can't get disease. Best part of my week is the occasional. I'm sorry didn't mean to be scorned. I am so very learning when the wind blows fine and flames. And when i made a woman i ain't got no game l. flag legalistic sandra. Even buddy the elf gut that lady from new girl. I can't less action than an alpine is shown. If i had the balls catherine myself went out it. This just get dark. This was meant to be funny. J. or alarm. I'll see myself though. But i'll leave you with this now. That's pretty good. Actually guys surprise to us. Well god oh my god tears over here. The sketchy sent me the message in slack. Saying i've got tweeted the not so i was like fine and then bad seven thirty. I think it was last night. A mr from. Jd tweeted the nine. Sh sure was a little weird to what you were doing. I was like what tweet has happened. They must show saw this incredible work with and what you did. Obviously with young santa and reindeer free man. The tradition lives. I'm so happy out. Okay very your knees. The first shot. I had jackson shoot it and it was. I was trying to look short. Basically that was old costume came in. Wow yeah we got everything upstairs so good. Jd here's here's the biggest compliment some of those photos. You put up reminded me of the break on the score. Oh thank you that. Wow amazing amazing okay. So tonight's game tasks some games feature teams. Well what are we gonna do. Get your split screen corralitos garrison setup. We're watching six games at a time. I know sound like an old head. Go on bed. everybody angry tweet stream. Are you going to bed. Yeah i'm not darius garland. I'm winston garland old. You can watch games in the morning. No big deal. You can watch them faster anyway. Show up glenn schiller rodney okay. Thirteen games tonight. I'm going with a game. That's very tight mine. It's on espn. It's at the end of the night going to be able to stay up. who knows. It's ten thirty eastern dallas going tough phoenix. These two teams definitely in the in the western conference playoff mix. I'm expecting dallas to be up there Phoenix wants to make the playoffs. They're gonna have to beat teams like dallas. It's a one and a half point line for phoenix. Their favorites us basically a coin. Flip phoenix at home. Again with chris paul first game. I am i'm taking phoenix. Jumping out on the phoenix suns bandwagon. Up against luca in the best offense from last year this difficulty just realized with the pick 'em game because there is no homecourt advantage. You're you're in your own arena and you've got the sight lines and blah blah blah and. You're sleeping in your bed. But i mean how much impact will no fans be in these games. Sort of tough for me to decide. I dunno gotta feel like the sunday like the map. Yeah i mean. It's a one point line. I think just the sons i think that just going to be a little bit healthier i think with that porzingis as well for the mavericks as a lot on luca show he can handle it both but in a line like this. I'm just going to go with the sons. I think i pol Is going to get his team over the line by one field goal okay. Two sons picks trae how about it. sons were eight. No in the bubble their use the plan in front of no fans. Gimme phoenix as well. Strange thing about phoenix thorough. Bad team at home last season one of those teams. But i feel like chris. Paul's not gonna let them let them lose at home. This is difficult man. This is difficult because who is the better team here at the the no. Kp really hurts. Man for sure. is there. I'd be very intrigued with this dallas. Line sorry guys going to start this one boring. i'm also going. Phoenix suns win tonight. Sorry all got phoenix. It's not exciting. To start with you can all make fun of us if dallas wins tonight all right. Let's call it. They're fun what we're calling really a first show here as we recap the big games in the big story lines while have so much to talk about on tomorrow show we'll be leading with darius scarlet no matter what no matter what he does tonight. There's actually some some sort of maybe potential breaking usage. james harden is apparently. There's a video getting round of him. Being moscow said a strip by in a couple of days ago way. That's news well. The league investigating. We won't be able to play if troops could be better than they play the thunder tonight. So that's going to be potentially something to look for their okay when i saw that tweet from from. Espn's tim macmahon that they were investigating that. I thought it was the old strip club. Footage like old like two and a half weeks ago. Apparently it's from this weekend so they're Here we go here. The drought of the nba season already. Full swing. okay. So we'll be back tomorrow to recap of tonight's games and strip club ventures as possible so join us then make sure you subscribe to us on dunk subscribe you. Listen to know podcasts. Podcast on apple podcast five star rating and review. Go get your merged dot com and. Yeah we're gonna make sure we get those videos up as well young santa and the reindeer free and now we got to put up the distract from absence elf. Love to give that up on our youtube channel as well as a whole world of rappers up at the north pole tracks twenty four seven. They do the other eleven months of the year in december. They make toys the other eleven months. They're making wraps. We will be back on thursday. Which is december twenty four alaria. Okay clever prose. you hurt here. I have a great time. Turn-up love you guys. Awesome the thanks for joining us folks and remember. Check out the u2. You wanna watch those videos. Don't you brace today people. You could be kirk.

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'20-21 NBA Season Preview | Pt. 2: MVP Picks & Overrated Teams

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'20-21 NBA Season Preview | Pt. 2: MVP Picks & Overrated Teams

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One you can get annual subscription to the athletic for yourself and then you can give an annual subscription for free so go to the athletic dot com slash. No dunks pretty sweet deal that bogo deal all right back into our. What's going to be a week long. Nba season preview. Here with more burning questions. Jump right to the first question of part two here. We're talking awards. Most valuable player lee get started. Who's your mvp. Pick for the twenty twenty twenty one season. Before i get to that. Just wanna say this has won the last two zero. Winning two in a row is not uncommon in recent history steps down at Lebron at twice steve nash. Dunkin michael magic of all on it but to go back to ninety four five eighty six. The last person to win three in a row against bet. You guys can guess who that was. It was a very streaky shooter. Shoot larry bird. That's right so janas. I think he's in a great position to win three and her. I think he's number going to be identical to last year. I think the box record is going to be very very strong. Well probably the best in the eastern conference. But i think one thing's going against us this year and i think the fact that he's teams flamed out in the playoffs. Last couple of seasons. I think that counts against him. I think people are like You gotta you have to sort of to something super super impressive issue to sort of to win us back to voting for that and so i think it. I don't think he wins it this. I'm going with. Anthony davis i think anthony davis is gonna do it for a couple of reasons. First of he's awesome. The numbers are going to be reason enough. I mean the numbers are going to be twenty six and twelve couple of blocks game. You know he could. He could be the. Mvp and defensive player that was in the conversation last year and yannis actually did that. Nothing davis could do that. I think the lakers. We talked a little bit about yesterday. I think that they do have the see. Maybe in the entire league this year. I think even if they going at not even at full speed. I think they still win. Fifty to fifty five games out. Of course only seventy two this year and davis just going to stand out. He's just going to be so he's young this is he's in his prime right now. He's got that championship confidence. So i think that is what's going to happen. Even if he sits out a couple of games. I just think he's gonna warm. I get that narrative this year of like he was awesome last year. He he nearly nearly one at last year as well. So he's going to have that sort of bump this year and if the lakers are just dominant from the start which are expect them to be. I think obviously lebron's going to be fantastic as well. But i think davis just sort of going to stand a lot more this year and get that sort of attention from the media so You know i think I think you honest. Like i say he's going to be fantastic and put up similar numbers but but i think david's just it moves towards him this year because the lake is going to be so good and dominant and he's just going to get a lot of the attention but can a guy that's playing alongside lebron james win mvp. That's where i get hung up on your you're right. He's an awesome player. The numbers are going to be huge. Lakers are gonna win a lot of games but you talked about the narrative. I'm sorry it's still there. Lebron i think would still be considered. Who knows he's getting up there in years but he never ages so. It doesn't matter that he's still going to be the best player on the lakers. So then is it. Can you wrap your head around. The idea of enough voters giving. Anthony davis an mvp tasks. What's your take on that. Are you siding with leelee or more with me. I just don't see that happening. If lebron is playing you know whatever seventy five eighty percent plus games. Lebron would have to play far fewer games frame. Anthony davis to win it just like last year. Lebron was second in voting and anthony. Davis didn't even make some people's top five which is a little bit but there's a reason for that it's because lebron is lebron. He carries all that weight with him. And he said. I don't believe in load management. So that's a bad sign for anthony davis. Mvp chances it seems like lebrons gonna play a good amount. What do you see what what's your take for are coming back at you. They're li li with that. Like come on. Eighty can't win if lebron blink. Well i mean. Obviously that's what i considered. But i just sort of feel that this is the year where where anthony davis becomes the lakers Statistically better player. I mean lebron last year as scored more than in the last year's roy moore. I almost feel like lebron is gonna want him to get that now. Now that's interesting. That's that's fascinating thing. Because if lebron starts saying from night one yeah. Anthony davis bp ep. Then maybe i can see it happening. But i don't think going to do that. I go that far. Hey defensive player in the you're sure have that gopher that but yeah if he actually started pumping up eighty that much to the media like he's the best player in the game he deserves. Mvp then maybe. But i remember how tst was last year. We didn't get it second. Yeah he's like deserve more vote so we debated how many more votes than you think he needed. We're talking about the nba finals here. Anthony davis was in the lead for finals after the first two games and then lebron said take it. We'll give me another one here real quick and i exactly. I agree with you skates and tasks that a f- lebron is going to be playing. I don't know we got seventy two games if he plays sixty five. I think he's got a much better chance at. Mvp than anthony davis. It'll just be hard for ad. Because he's playing alongside lebron but i guess he can take solace in the fact that he's still one of the five best players in the league even the second best guy on his team but i don't know i'm actually shocked when i saw lee was going to be answering this question. I i thought for sure he was going with the don luca. Judge as your mvp. He's the favorite. He's gotten massive buzz right now. He's got the lebron co-sign the bronze said he wanted to start team. Lebron luca would be the first guy to wear it. unfortunately he got got michael jordan instead. These guys are fighting over. Who's going to be wearing his shoes. i think. Lucas the favourite for a reason wouldn't be surprising if he averaged a triple double. And when you average a triple double you get some mvp votes. I got luca this year. I look the one thing. I think cans against him though again. I just think the mavericks are gonna be sort of battling around to be a five hundred thirteen. I really do especially if porzingas. Mrs extended time. I think you're right. Don't you could easily average that triple double many almost losses. He's always done it in both season. So i can see he even putting up the russell westbrook thirty point triple double and carrying so much lower than standing out. But i just feel that there's gonna be a big gap between the winds that the lakers have and the winds at the mavericks have to the point where it could be potentially twenty games and i think that's really what's counting against the donncha at the moment i mean i hope the mavericks do well and i and i think they're going to be in the playoffs but i can also see a scenario where it's like pausing his to get himself back and don't you just have to carry too much of that lord and even though the numbers look great the winds out there to back it up so i think he's probably russell westbrook won the mvp triple double that other star. That was on his team. Wasn't there too much load. They'd barely above five hundred still want. Mvp yeah he did. But i feel that. I i think people look at that. Don't think well he stat stuffed his way to getting that triple double and we'd never seen that before. And then russell westbrook goes out and does it to more. If don't you. Does it an incredible achievement. No question but it's not that rare to see it anymore. So i i feel you generally have to be a top. What foresee to win. Mvp was held outlier. For and i don't know who who would have done that before westbrook and and that's the thing with a mess they are right now. I don't see them as a top four in the western conference if porzingas comes back and if he's able to get healthy then changes things. But i'm like i signed yesterday. I'm a little bit concerned about his his durability from posing a so that's why i think that's why knocked down a little bit this year others throws three guys in that exact category. It's luca steph and dame if they can pull their their teammates to foresee without the quote unquote star power around them. They will get a lot of people. I think those are three are in the exact same category. Yeah before we get your pick here tasks. The last i saw i found one of the you know the odds for mvp pick donkey as trae said at the top of the leaderboard plus three seventy five. I last saw janas plus five hundred. I'm with yuli. I don't think there's any chance in the world that goes back to back to back. I just don't see it happening. I mean like the media just gets tired of voting for the same guy too and your numbers will probably be identical box. Might have the best records still in the eastern the league and i don't think it's going to matter curry then. At plus eight fifty lebron plus nine hundred eighty plus nine hundred hardened plus thirteen hundred durant plus fifteen hundred and then lillard plus two thousand and then obviously money more guys after that. So who are you then going with tasks. Are you going with one of those guys. Are you picking either a warriors as a top three seat or a blazers as the top three seed or dunk as a top. Or you're going somewhere else you got for an mvp. I think the conditions are perfect for kevin durant to win it. Ooh is just. It's just too perfect. I like anthony davis. He's awesome. And i think we forget that kevin durant is probably the second best player of this era. Besides lebron. he's right up there. Him and staff i i would put right up there in that conversation and it is easy to forget. We're too dumb to remember eighteen months ago and to because we don't feel that every day as media members is voters. I know we don't vote by the people who vote. I think are in the same boat as us. They haven't seen kevin durant in such a long period of time. That absence plays in his favor. I think they'll just see him out there on the floor again. You know one of the better players of this era and he's going to work to and do it. I think one thing we know kevin durant is. He loves basketball. He hasn't been able to pick it up. Pick up a ball in eighteen months in an nba game. I think he's gonna play a ton. And i think he is. The situation in brooklyn is perform. He's playing for a coach who has his personal coaching. Golden state knows that the guy that that he's playing for wants what's best forum like he. They're in each other's corner. He left at golden state situation a because he didn't feel like he was appreciated at didn't feel like he was You now given that sort of acknowledgment as one of the best He just didn't feel right so now i think he's gonna go for it and it just feels like media members argon appreciate this thirty two year old guy who i was. I was a little worried as i said in preview. Number one watching him. I don't like when we get to the older era of of a player's career but Given ranchos kevin durant. He hasn't changed one bit and he's going to go after it and i don't think i'm in kyrie is gonna take any votes awesome I don't think. I think it's pretty clear that katy is the number one guy. And there's just jaanus you guys have said all dame lucas staff. They're all up. Their heart is kind of disqualified himself showing the be tough right now but he was up there. I received an email Two days ago that showed the online odds. He was number one and mike vick. I'm not sure why he was up. There used him in luca. Right there and it in fantasy it's hard. It's luca we're gonna One two and then yannis But you know the the story line is it's just not there for for harden at. I don't think it's there for you. But i think. Ad conditions up perfect. You can write that story pretty well. I would add to that draft chances of winning. Mvp is gets twice the amount of games vs eastern conference teams in the normally does now right like a lot of crappy. Easter governs teams. Let's be honest here and only to see them twice a year for the most part when he's blaming the west and he's going to get to see them more often so yeah i can see it with katie and it just depends how often they how many games he plays do they do they do they slow. Play it because of you come back from injury. Maybe he doesn't play a ton of games. i'm sort of. i'm sort of with you. Test i think he is actually going to try and play a lot of these games so his chances my pick. I feel like. I've got a lot of pressure with this picked by the way guys of successfully predicted the mvp winner in three the last four seasons on our show. I went back to make sure that was true and it is in sixteen seventeen. I just rode that katy leaving westbrook narrative and i took russell westbrook and so he won and that was a controversial one for sure in two thousand eighteen thousand nine. I jumped on the train for the first time. And he got his first one and then last season. I'm up in toronto at. Gd podcasting and some weird airbnb. And i had in my notes. I was ready to take well indeed but you tasks and trae you beat me to the punch. You took both of you. Took him beat to win. Mvp last year. And i was like three us taking the same guy just pivoted right on the spot and what was yawn. It's back to back and that ended up working out and seventeen eighteen. I just had the wrong gene. So i went with lebron instead of hearted so close enough so again. A lot of pressure here. I feel like i'm on a run ongoing damian lillard. I'm glad you throw them in their tasks i am banking on. Order him for him to win this on the blazers being top four. Maybe even top three seed in the west. I'm excited about them again. I said it on part. One i was. I just forgot how dominated his numbers were dame's were not remember the bubble moments but man all season long thirty points per game. He does that and they win. A bunch of games. He's also super well like bengal pointing out in his newsletter starring. Lee elyssa nowhere. That team is maybe the most media-friendly superstar that helps can help with the voter. So i'm gonna go with the lillard there from narrative standpoint monster numbers but i'm banking on the blazers win in a ton of games and and like you said tasks that same goes for lucas. Goes for curry. If they shock a lot of people are way way up there in the west. They're going to get a lot of votes a lot of votes. I like the media angle. I don't know how much it really plays into the end when when media members are looking at the stats and they see. Oh yes just kick frigging ass. Do i like him have. I sat down with him for a one on one. I'm not sure how much but it's fun for us to speculate the beginning of the year. I think that's something that katy has in his corner as well. He's going to look like a saint playing next to kyrie irving he's gonna take all the junk we've already seen it. He's playing chess. Gaidys playing checkers now. He's not that that analogy doesn't work. And i never liked that analogy. You know guys playing guys thinking that another level. He's playing chess. These other dudes are playing. Checkers checkers is fun. It's much easier. Yeah of course the kids can play checkers again. It gets complaint. Jess kids can play. Chess guys are playing chess. A little bit here with damian lillard. This is the guy that snubbed every single every year. He's getting started on votes he could put up. Mvp numbers and finished third very easily. I think his case. And duncan dhaka's dont'a just case as well as the same thing right. You gotta win a lot of games and you gotta put up those monster numbers as the leader. They're both teams that if everything breaks right maybe they make a conference finals. But they're not necessarily a contender. I would. I wouldn't think but we shall see how it plays out. I also don't know that the blazers got a whole lot better. I really liked the moves they made. But i'll put some really in the upper echelon the western conference and that's what you guys are telling me it's gonna matter with the dog so we shall see no news though about nikola yokich. Nobody mentioning nikki nikolay. Yokich is a plus twenty five hundred for this. He's not going to be playing in november. There's less time to get out of shape. They'll be ready to go from the jump value was i think. Yoga is a really solid. Pick their he looks kinda skinny and his media pictures. He looks ready to go. Some expected other big season from him. While i was gonna ask you. Do you have a wildcard. So it sounds like trays. Like looking down the value picks. They're like he's cam stewart looking for a juicy engaged taking yoga ej li. Do you have a wildcard pick. Go get a little crazy talk. Talk me into somebody for mvp. Maybe lower on the list. Well i i think this guy really stepped up these game last season and again down in the bubbly was fantastic. He made the all star team for the first time. He's a young guy. I think jason. Tatum really can stand out again. This season now. He's he's one of those dark horse. Pigs that i don't realistically think he's gonna win it. But he's the celtics best player and if the celtics are in that top two or three in the western eastern conference. He's going to get so much of that. Attention campers great joyce jaylen brown is also great. They lost gordon. How you would this season But i think title last season. He just at improved. He's game some so much that he could really really stand. I you know twenty eight points a game this year taking some big shots having some big moments he is a star already and i think if the celtics do cement themselves in that top two or three in the eastern conference. He's gonna get a lot of the credit for that. All twelve times tatum. Making that all star game. Twelve times Coming up in the future here task got wildcard. Pick well together mentioned so many. Throw trae young in there. Five thousand when i saw it. Sounds like you're making money cam. Stewart strowman there. He's got the ability to do it. It's gotta drag your team up up the standings as we've said. Do the hawks have a chance at a four or five seed at would be incredible fever. They gotta make the playoffs for so that. That's why it's dark horse. It's severe severe darkhorse. Bud as he said after one preseason game which they lost he said i am excited as f- to play with these dudes so he thinks that there's a lot of ability a lot of shooting around him with bogged down bogdonovich and danilo gallinari and and some defensive chops with glenn cappella in france. So you know the i'm down here in atlanta. We're all down here. You know i'm a little pumped to watch them play. So can they be that high in the standings. I think that's a little crazy. But that's why it's a dark horse. Pick imagine the takes if trae young wins and mvp before luka doncic wow when the train wow well look look dumped last year. Trae young second in assists in the league and fourth in scoring mean task saying the hawks link suddenly shock everybody and their top four in the eastern conference. He's gonna have the numbers to back it up. It's very similar to lillard right. I mean it's those are the numbers. Yeah the trade is interesting. That's that'll be always be the conversation cam. Reddish was the guy who they got. What the draft pick right from dallas in that trae young ended what ended up being the number ten pick cam. Radishes plan like trae young shooting from the logo in that. First preseason game let it fly that that lineup that roster rotation i should say is going to be crazy crazy to watch how many frigging dudes they have that can play There's like a dozen and cameras. Radishes one of them I don't know i'm kinda high cameras shot. I don't know why i just like. We stands out on the hawks for as little defense. But you'll get some minutes. Some of the other guys their odds lower on the list said yokich there. Yeah i saw him at plus twenty eight hundred twenty five hundred you said. Trae jimmy butler. I saw plus thirty three hundred embiid. Your picks last year guys for mvp plus four thousand booker plus four thousand westbrook plus board thousand. And then it goes. You know irving and williamson and mitchell and paul george jamal. Murray ben simmons unborn with the guy. Not even on that list for my super darkhorse pick and i think i am drinking. The preseason cooling. It's like a lot of it. i'm. I'm drunk off it. John rant put me down for a job or at super super darkhorse. Mvp pig man. He looks awesome already. Love the samurai hair. Look he's got going with the locks he spree will will that for a while is danny foods and that's you study lost. His bobby pins so we had to go to pony tail. Just out there maranatha anytime. He's got the ball in his hands. And you just waiting for something to happen. He's this incredible he's fun to watch. Yeah i mean obviously the numbers in the is what's gonna really addicting there but as far as league poss- alert stuff. He's gonna lead the league. I think he's just incredible. Oh my god yeah couple timber. Wolves made some businesses decisions last night when he was driving town specifically was like nope. No thank you. That will joe keys. Ducking out of the way You'll like. I don't want to be on this poster. it's funny season. No way have the dunk. Have the done all right. So those are our official. Mvp picks and then some some wildcards dark horses. Whatever you wanna call them. Let's hear from you guys both in the stream team. Who's your mvp. Vic and everybody listened to the podcast later tweet us at no dunk sink. Hey i'm task of no dunks on the athletic. 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That's thirty dollars off a purchase of three ninety nine or more at indochino dot com promo code. Tass our next question which western conference team is most likely to disappoint. This is the kind way of asking good. Western conference team is overrated tasks. Why don't you get a started. Who's who in. The west is likely to disappoint. Well there are be teams at this point. In the west. I think legitimately fourteen of the fifteen teams in the west are trying to make the playoffs. Which doesn't happen urine. you're out okay. See they're not making the playoffs. But i think everybody else's actually trying to get there so there are teams that don't even make the play in game plan tournament. They were gonna be disappointed. But i i gotta go back to the houston rockets. It just feels like that's are. That situation is quite combustible Would how many guys not only number one don't want to be there. In james harden best player shows up days late. You gotta go get a six corona virus tests to play here at days later. He came one week before the regular season starts your best players showing up when you've got a new ball handler. And john wall to new centers and demarcus cousins in christian. Would it just feels like with him. And pj there Yeah a new coach and stephen missiles brand new coach. Who's who's never run a team on his own. Plus all these guys who are so injury prone era have injury histories and john wall coming off a A severe injury. That had a huge setback while he was recovering from that injury. There's just so many moving parts even though you wanna drink some preseason juice. John wall look grave markers dozens. look fantastic. what's what's what's going to happen with. James harden that that has to start the conversation and then is it a team. We don't with james harden and some you know probably good parts they get back to go along with john wall and demarcus cousins in a setting that just it just doesn't feel that good from the outside looking in now. Are they going to build a culture to destroy all that that gabbage that they had last year I don't know. I don't know how they sort of right that ship. I just don't so. I think houston is a team that will be on the outside looking at again because the west is so frigging deep. I say fourteen teams. But you know the kings probably aren't gonna make it spurs in. Wolves can be really hard pressed to make. But they're going to be trying trying. Yeah so the the h- see the rockets if they make the plan term and i think that's good for them even though they got frigging talent out the wazoo. There's just so many question marks. yeah. I'm with pass on this one because i have a lot of faith in the teams in the western conference all of the teams that are supposed to be good. I'm like yeah. I buy it. I feel like. I've seen you perform in the past air go. You should perform in the future. But it's easy to see the rockets season this year going the same way the warriors did last year. Right and this scenario james harden would be the kevin durant suddenly. He's not there anymore. Perhaps maybe get a couple of big injuries steph. Curry and klay thompson both went down last year. That could be the case with john wall and demarcus cousins both recovering from major injuries. Suddenly you're out. You're three all star level players may be. Pj tucker is the draymond green without anybody around a pass the ball. He's not as interested in playing defense. Suddenly your team is very bad. The bad part for the rockets. They don't have three titles in their past to celebrate and forward in the future they wouldn't therefore be bringing back james harden. It's easy to see a rocket season going off the rails but with the attacks. I do like that john lewis. He's looked all right in the preseason demarcus cousins as looked all right in the preseason but this is a team that it doesn't feel like we're going to be watching this same team in three or four months and they would be getting worse in that scenario so i think it's easier to see them falling out of the playoffs. Falling out of the play and tournament sucks for the rockets but it felt like it. End of an era over Over the offseason season and it feels like an even more so not me out fair again. We were talking about the rockets being tough team to predict because if hardens they're they're still probably good decent and if not then yeah it could be leaning into obviously a rebuilding type of mode but then again how good is john wall and cousins. How good is would for them. Yeah they're a tough one to figure out but you guys are saying ultimately they're probably going to disappoint and Beyond the outside looking in of that play tournament lee. Who do you got in the west as someone again. Basically we're saying who might be a little overrated as we start at these teams. I've arrested or not. But they got the number one pick in the draft. They made a few additions in the off season. But i really don't see a significant improvement in the minnesota timberwolves. I i mean. They've got derive deandra russell and colony towns. They bought they planned together. But this team offensively should be able to score enough. But i just really can't how they gonna stop anyone defensively for too long just bank those winds i mean it's it's tough in the west. I mean there are a lot of competitive teams. And i just don't think it's going to be much better than it was mean anthony edwards. They've got the number one pick in a draft with doesn't really wanna play basketball so i don't have that just birds for them going forward so they've moved some pieces around. This is a huge difficult anthony towns. He can really either stubborn himself as a legit superstar and put up those numbers and just drag his teams to a few wins. Or he's going to be one of those guys like he's good but he doesn't seem to move the needle all that much for his team. I think i think that's where he's at right now and he may sort of inspired about these last year so to say i want out of here. That could also be on the table for him as well this season so i think minnesota just Last year on the outside looking in. I really don't think they've Improved enough to sort of put themselves. I mean if they can make that plane tournament number ten. That would be a huge season for them. But that's i think where they are at the moment. Yeah i actually unfortunately went with the wolves to i say unfortunately because there's no one. I'm rooting for more right now. In the league. And karl anthony towns after what. He just went through losing his mother. And what was it. Six other family members to to covid and he's even talked about like basketball is probably the last thing on his mind right now. Your reform for reform. You're hoping he does well. But i'm with you. I think they're going to be one of these teams. That's not playing in the plan tournament. And also they're not trying to actively lose here they're not purposely trying to lose they don't have the draft pick so it's not like they're even like oh yeah. Awesome twenty one twenty one twenty. Twenty one draft class was awesome. Let's go get one of those big no probably not going to have it. On paper cat deal joshua koji me beasley rubio back there. A hernan gomez jake lehman culver. Who had a rough rookie season. And then you said edwards air. You've got mcdaniels like on paper. I guess like pretty solid. But i don't see how their overall better than sons warriors grizzlies pelicans maybe spurs. Maybe even like we talked about the rockets too many teams. That are better than them again. If everybody's healthy again when you don't have your pick and you're trying to get into the playoffs because you're not tanking for any reason and then you're still outside. That's that'd be bad and you saw townsley about like does he just get monster numbers but it doesn't translate into a lot of wins. I saw real. Gm's colin mcgowan. He compared towns. Nba career so far to a young washington bullets. Chris webber and i had never thought about that comparison. I went and checked it. Just sort of see what the numbers are like very comparable like monster offensive numbers. Obviously we know how talented they are in that into the floor. You know an all star appearance or too early in their careers. An injury riddled season or two in their careers. But a bunch of disappointing sort team performances. Both of them at this point. You know if you're just looking at like i. Five seasons one single playoff appearance. This was weber playing one year with the warriors and then a bunch of years with the bulls before making his way to kings. He made it one year and right now. Towns is with the jimmy butler experiment there with tips. I think it's comparable but then that's maybe a good thing for towns. I guess what. I'm getting at weber. Went on to have look right but a good career off finding your way. You're sacrimento for sure. So he's best. He was talked to a three in the league. Said sure on towns got a nice offensive game. You know he can score. You can shoot spreads law. It's just it's just that sort of the something missing nowhere where it's just like. Our towns tonight was refusing to let his team lose. You know he's going to go out there and just force a win on his team. That's where he's struggling at the moment. Yeah so i. I have the walls. I'm agreeing with you there. I think they could disappoint because again. They've they're playing to get in and they have some talent there and they made some moves beasley as overpay. I don't know. But i just don't see them better than a lot of those teams. We just Just listed unfortunately. Rhonda hollis jefferson's gonna come in and save the day rj. He should probably end up starting for him. Just because they need the alongside towns. They had a sixteen game losing streak and a thirteen game losing streak. A lot of that was with towns out but he also went one for nineteen one one eighteen out of nineteen games he wanted his last nineteen games played and like lisa and they did bring in the number one draft pick that helps but there's not a whole bunch more improvements around there. It really feels like minnesota fallen off the map. That's just the team. That's not really in the mix at all right now. They had a lot of trade rumors last year. You know. They finally brought in the ngelo. Russell to appease karl anthony towns. It felt like but that's about it not much basketball talk. They only played one game together. I guess right those last year and they should be great offensively. It's can they get stops. Hopefully rubio helps. Halt jefferson as well. Maybe they do. Maybe they do. Maybe i'm wrong. We'll see fancier and i'm looking forward to ricard rubio getting back there in minnesota. He's a fan favorite. He's probably going to stabilize dangelo. Russell a little bit like those two are gonna play together. I think even though anthony edwards is there it is kind of crazy to say this but if there's any situation or any organization that can help karl anthony towns move forward with everything he's going through. His family heard this on the lead. Podcast withdrawn krinsky and could beat the davidson. It was a really telling episode. About karl anthony towns and losing his mom and the six family and friends that that he's lost but rubio lost his mom when he was a member of the timber wolves earlier in his career. Anthony edwards losses. Mom early flip. Saunders obviously passed away ryan. Saunders is on the head coach. So there's there's going to be an understanding there putting her arm around towns and trying to get through this together as a team get down. Try and try and channel that because he just when he did get on that doom Media day he just seemed like and i don't wanna play basketball and obviously. That's that's totally totally fair. So kenny kenny channel at to the wanting to play kinsey organization sort of picking up and and because they have all the offensive weapons they have so many of weapons. But you know everybody was expecting towns to turn around one day defensively. Maybe maybe come. You know these teams interior very very tight especially in a shortened season trump and ten games offer down to seventy two. We can have very fun racist for like the seatings and then let alone that play interment. I think teams are going to be the not a lot of wind is going to differentiate some of these teams that we're talking about here but let's jump from the west to the same question you gotta start at which eastern conference team most likely to disappoint. I've got faith in pretty much. Every western conference team zero faith in most of the eastern conference teams. I can feel like every team could be the disappointing team here. The east is wide. open this year. You know the bucks likely will still have the best record in the eastern conference but to me. The answer for most likely to appoint is still the bucks because it's championship bus until janas writes his name on that line once. He writes his name on that line. It's still championship for buzzing. We've seen the way the nba is these days. They made a great move getting jrue holiday. We've talked about the bug. Dan bogdonovich situation so many times. Are they meaningfully. Better are they. Have things changed enough for the bucks to make it to address the concerns that they have come playoff time. No doubt air eric. Bledsoe being gone is an advantage. Drew holiday is an upgrade over them. But i feel like they're still searching for that guy to close out games for them you're going to have. Chris middleton jrue holiday likely brook lopez. And who's the fifth guy. They still need the fifth guy down. Even maybe he's that guy we shall see. They almost traded in this summer. You know they were ready to move on from him if they were going to be able. To upgrade certainly. They think that there's an upgrade to be. Had there likely was saying that going to be tough for janas to win another. Mvp his numbers are going to be there. The regular season success is going to be there but they still don't necessarily have a perfect five man line up which means mike budenholzer will probably play very many guys Just feels like the same old story with the bucks. It's a good story to be in you. Know the bucks didn't have a long history of playoff success before y- honest got there. They're still better having him than if they didn't. But you don't wanna see a guy went back to back. Mvp put up another season of mvp numbers and fall short once again. Maybe the drew holiday move is all they really needed. Because i don't think bobby portis is going to be the savior coming off the bench. Twenty torrey craig man okay. We'll see we'll see. I would have rather had wes matthews to be honest. But i don't know. I think the bucks did good to get drew holiday. They improved. he was the biggest target. They could have acquired but it doesn't address all of the problems that we've seen for the past two seasons when it really matters all right so trey go and right to the playoffs with his answer here. Yeah he's talking about the bucks are going to be in there but will ultimately come up short losing. Let's say a second round again or something like that or conference finals. What about you. Are you going with an elite team. That might come up short in the playoffs. You with a team. That might not make the playoffs in the eastern conference. Well i'm going with the team. That many teams streamers stream teamers streamers believed. Yesterday was an elite team. I wanna try and rile them up again. I said the raptors amongst the absolute elite in eastern conference. I think there's four they're four teams and in the raptors with the sixers below the nets bucks the celtics and who's a fourth missing heat. The heat. yeah. I think those are at the top of the raptors. I think are in a that tier below them. And i think there's a chance if there's one injury to one of their big guys or if they decide. Hey we're not hiring not in a great position here to have a big playoff. Run at maybe. They start to disassemble that team. Maybe call our. He's gone even though it feels like he should be a lifer I just wonder how that tampa a situation going to go for them. I just wonder if they're gonna start sending out some parts really a because i do think after markelle soul and serge ibaka left and i'm a huge aaron baynes fan. Love me some air and baynes but it is a bit. They have declined just a little bit in terms of their roster. I don't think there's a shouldn't be a question about that. I wonder if if things aren't going well most likely that's the sort of the The instigator of the impetus for me thinking that it won't go well for the raptors this season but they could obviously be a top four seat because they always over achieve. It seems like with all these guys. they still do. Have fred vanfleet. They still do. Have kyle lowry in their backward pascal siakam. I think we'll have a bounceback year even though he had hit really solid your bounce back from those playoffs expect to play well but at the same time they have left room for that twenty twenty one off season four reason because they are positioning themselves for both both situations. Jerry is ready to pivot depending on what happens. And i want to see what happens with Paschi i'm looking forward to pascal. C adams bounce back i mean they are sort of riding his back right now but they're they're also opening the door for twenty twenty one. It's a smart task. You're purposely doubting injuries. Knowing that it's going to encourage them it's going to fire them up or that bulletin board material and make them actually better than you're playing chess see this example. You're playing victor checkers. My man i that what you're doing here you yet that's gonna rile up raptors fans not actually disagree with rehavam in the rankings. Like i don't think they're second here or at least i don't think some of those teams you had above them in the first year. Let's say are like leaps and bounds or in a tier above the wraps especially the heat. Who actually is my pick to disappoint I would. I think i would maybe flip where you have the raptors in the heat in tears talking break breakdown. Because i think the heat They're an awesome team. There's no doubt and they still have a lot of their pieces. That kept a lot of their guys. Didn't go long term a lot of their guys you talked about the raptors for twenty twenty one well the sore of the heat with potential big names in play that they can make a move but i just wonder was the bubble like the absolute perfect scenario for jimmy butler miami heat team a it proved to be true. They played incredibly. He was like he was unreal. I mean he wasn't that great in the regular season like the normal regular season and then jimmy butler in the bubble with a big face. Coffey was top ten talent. I just wonder in a more quote unquote and i'm doing air quotes here normal season. Does he fall back to earth. Little bit tyler. herro again. He had ups and downs sort of in the regular season and suddenly he was one of the best rookies. We'd seen in bubble play other contributions. Jae crowder is now gone. He was awesome for them. I don't think he ever missed a three point shot. I just think the heater going gonna like not not full off. They're going to be under. The pliny means but i don't see them going back to the conference finals. I guess is why or the finals. Excuse me i think it was the perfect storm. There that disneyworld their big disneyworld guys. I guess is what it turns out. I just think they're going to be good similar to what they were. During the regular season. I mean they were a fifth seed. Right m right there fifth or sex or something like that and in a way i think it will disappoint because i just don't see them going all the way to the finals. Even twenty nine hundred seven home last season and fifteen and twenty two on the road. Remember like the sixers. They could win all the time when they were playing in miami. Not so much on the road. Definitely the bubble help them just because they're a team that really knows how to lock in jimmy butler out there working hard and being the man. But it's gonna come down to matchups for them if they get the bucks again in the playoffs. They'll beat the bucks again in the playoffs. Yeah they just don't know how to guard a walkie doesn't understand how to stick to all those shooters out there and that's what the heat are going to do away. That's fair look. Like duncan robinson is still accurate in theory. Could be better. He might be starting for them. You know jimmy does take the next level. The playoffs bam get better. I get all that. They're well coached. Of course they still have some other talent that they've brought in heartless in there and stuff like that against avery. Bradley there as well. I just don't think they're at the end of it all. I think it'll be a disappointment because they won't go to the nba finals banking on that. I just don't see it happening. I think some improved teams in the eastern conference. And yeah you're right trey. It's matchups like i could easily see the heat. Losing a first round series depending on who. They're playing their a fifth or sixth seed playing playing celtics or a sixers or something like that. It could be a very difficult series for them so although heat who has an answer this one is. Yeah yeah well. I've actually got to. I've got teams i. It couldn't split these two. Because i both improved the off season. But how much is the key for me The charlotte hornets one. They got lamelo bowl. And gordon hayward lamelo which saying he's a little bit like jammer he's gonna have the highlights but how much of a sort of impact is going to have on winning games because the shooting is an insult to jamarat. I'm just saying like. Haven't you seen already been flipping the ball or around the back. He's been great the highlights of there for him but he hit a shot yet. Tony hits you. Get one eight one three yesterday last night. Yeah that's important. Usually i wonder what lavar though was doing with. Kids wasn't working on that show when when they were kids because they've got the talent but they've got some ugly shootings stalls at the nba. Yesterday he's off the pistons liangelo. Yeah unfortunately but anyway. And then hollywood. Hollywood good player. They spend a lot of money on him. you know. but he's another one. How much improve the hornets do they make the playoffs because they desperately need to make the playoffs as well time and the other one is the hawks. There's the hawks has got too many players right now. Too many guys fighting for positions. And you want. It's obviously trae young as the key for that team and he he's gonna put up these numbers. No doubt about it gallinari. I mean he was good in the bubble. But i think they overpaid for him and bam shocked. They agree that he was going to be a bench player when they signed that contract. He said that on media house shocked to hear share. And you know he'll have his moments says no dad. It's good shoot. He's going to have that and rondo doesn't plying the regular season anyway so they also they added him. They go chris. Done a young guy has already bounced around a little bit. So and then. What's the what's happening with john. Collins eight isn't an answer question they were john collins is he a part of the future or not because of years and have to pay him if he's not the will move from him and they added some other big players that it's kind of like I'm not sure what they really feel about. John collins right now so. I think the hawks are better than they were last year. But again i don't really i don't see them rocketing up the eastern conference so i i don't see them. I think six is probably the absolute ceiling for this team. Right now which is which is an improvement. It takes that season would take it. But i think even then that's like everything has to fall into place for them and not. I'm just not sure that all those moves and where they are right now. They're still got some pieces to figure out exactly. Who's getting the minutes what roles. They're applying until they figure that out. I'm just not sure who's gonna. Who's who is the best. What is the best version of this team tonight. Yeah no there's a lot of questions lloyd. Pierce is gonna have to figure that out. I think he's going to be like if they get off to a slow start. I think he could be on a hot seat to the expectations. You're saying lee. From management from ownership is like we gotta get in the playoffs like we're in the eastern conference. We should at least be in the playoffs and we want to keep trae young happy moving forward so we went and made all these moves made all these like big signings and narayan bogdonovich and stuff like that and we did the capella move last year. He didn't even play like on paper. You're right they got a lot of good guys. So pierce gotta figure out the lineups and and put some wins together. Get some stops to because the offense you know is going to home when you got trae young leading it but i i hear you on the expectations so that in turn if they don't live up to it could be disappointing but i think you're agreeing. It sounded like trae. Like he's gotta make them into the play. He's got them there. I think he could be short. Lived there in atlanta. No doubt about it. There's pressure for the first time in his coaching career in atlanta. And that means we're spending a lot of money. We've got a superstar player who we need to keep happy who wants to see some ws in the columns. We need to make the playoffs. We need to at the very least. They need to be the tendency. They need to make the play tournament if they have another season like last year. That's certainly disappointment. And loyd pier side. I think his job could be in jeopardy. You know we're talking about them as a potential playoff team this time last season. Not this time. But you know the the the theoretical this time. Last season and john collins got suspended right away and that pretty much submarine their season. They were never able to make a run at the playoffs and started hearing buzz about trae young wanting some changes around they got the changes now which means they need to make the improvement. I think they will make the improvement. I think having a lot of guys will be beneficial this season playing so many games and such a short time frame not to mention what's going to happen if any teams have kovac diagnosis. We already seen it. Going around the chicago bulls so yeah. I think it's going to be beneficial to have a lot of players. There still are unanswered questions with collins. And i do have faith. I'm just going to be a solid player that he's going to be able to lift this team to respect ability but a sixth seed. That seems pretty If if they're talking sixth seed and they fall short of that. That is a disappointment. So i would set your sights a little lower haight. Be a huge. I think yeah. I think eighth is a nice little goal like even if even if they could avoid. Yeah what's to avoid the play tournament. You have to be sixty right through ten now. So yeah if they're seven three. They're very very happy with that season. They're looking for a breakout. From one of these young guys to us through it a couple of names earlier tasks like you know maybe a hunter or reddish or hurt or even like going on a little bit of a next level in their game would be huge for for the hawks in bringing in all those guys along. Trae young at and it's it's in play But i could see if they come up short very very disappointing and pierce will be gone. In my opinion. I'm jack to see which one of those three really their top draft picks from the last couple of years deondraye hunter and cameras going into your to hear that kevin heard of the year before Whether or not they can take that leap. Are they going to get enough minutes given her. It's highly unlikely that he's going to get a ton of minutes. I mean they wanna play him but now with bogdanovich in front of him and then you got to play know hundred cameras. There are a lot of minutes That are going to be going by the wayside for those guys. Deandra underplayed a lot last year People drinking juice on him in the preseason that he's he's looking good. I just wonder how it's all gonna shake down with that roster. 'cause i'm excited about so many of their guys and then they go and draft condu- at tobacco. Clint cappella he. He's i think underrated at the number six spot. They got him at But it's gonna play. John collins gonna play the four five. You got to kneel about our. There's so many names to develop There's there's some chatter out there and a a streamer branch mentions hardened to the hawks because if if trouble strip clubs are too good here he's handled houston his power. That's like his spinach. That's like the reports till till then each show up and score fifty the next night. Yeah i guess right back backpacker with bogdanovich and trae young defensively. That's an issue too. That's where i mean. They've got defensive issues. Anyway the hawks but it starts because it just such small guys not great defenders. So that's why they're hoping their wing guys go. Dope plays like he plays in the play offs sunday clearing but again. That's where you know you can't you can't have all those guys out there on the floor. At once again they're going to be exposed at times but And have to improve both ends because although trae young is an all-star twenty-seventh in offense twenty seventh and twenty eighth defense offense on one of those flip. Flip them around. But they are bad in terms of executing even as good as trae young and john collins not being around for a big chunk of it was part of it but to jump up from a non playoff team to a team and means you gotta jump up on both sides really like you. You've got to be either good and good on both sides the floor To make the playoffs. Or you have to be a lead on one side and crappy on the other and so that's gonna be only me hard hard pressed to do especially with finding Just the patterns for those guys in the rotation and can young guys come in and execute. I do agree that it helps to have deep bench right now in the scenario. But i'm deondraye hundred coming into your to my minutes get reduced and i'm coming in a spot minutes. Am i going to perform. It's hard for young guys to do that. So they got the names. It's fun roster to look at it is. There's a lot of notable names. It's we'll see what they do with it. Let's get to our next question here. Another award question. My favorite the most improved player tass. Who do you got. I'm already worried about this award. By who you picking and not actually going to pick this guy but i know you don't like skeets Oh yeah oh yeah when you pick the guy going into a second year s especially our guy who didn't play for the first couple of months just came in and got a little taste check. There's gonna be some crazy votes for the boots for zion williamson. You were gonna go. And that's an interesting. I thought you were gonna go with michael porter. Jr. yeah michael porter also cheating. Although people are definitely people are picking him. But i'm gonna take another guy. And because i have got no shame in my game. I picked this guy last year to win it. Because i've made the dirty move of going with a guy in his second year shea alexandra last year. Oh yeah and saw pick him again. They're giving them the keys in. Okay see which a little worried about him. Winning most improved because of two reasons. One i think the can just focus on jay bilas alexander if you're opposing coach. Let's just try and take him away because there's just not a ton of weapons around him and second maybe he improved too much last year to win this award going to improve On one thousand nine points per game that he had last year. He went from eleven in his rookie year to nineteen last year. I do believe he's gonna come back after that humbling playoff performance in that one series against houston rockets but if coaches can focus on him on a team that i think is probably gonna finish fifteenth in the western conference dead last. I'm not so high on this. But i'm doing it again just because i'm a little bit angry that he didn't get enough recognition. Last year he was sort of. On the periphery of the the most improved player. Talk last year because of that. Those numbers i said. Yeah but i just worry I don't know how worried you are about a guy. Just being able to be focused on is playing horford. Al horford sexy is draws a lot of the attention from the opponent and then. Sgi can break free. Yeah i think it would take something. Like i don't think it's that far fetched before i say this it would take him averaging twenty five five and five right something along those lines like you said he was gonna win. Mvp right trade. I have some crazy bets. Going and future bets g. But you know he'd have to shoot. Continue shoot from the floor. And he'd have to obviously hit the three ball if he averages twenty five five and five. I wouldn't even matter if okay sees the worst. He's an gets tony five. No right right. So i got is that that fetched on that team. I mean somebody's going to lead the team. They're handing the keys to him as you said. I mean he's going to probably get his but he made a counter if the other team just says. That's the only guy we gotta worry about. Might easier to take him out. So yeah i like that. Pick though doubling down on it. Even i didn't like you doing in the second year because i think you said i on and i think michael porter jr. you can see why he's already getting the buzz because he's going from very limited numbers. What average nine and five or something like that in his rookie year and you know is it far. Fetched to think him with jeremy grant gone like he gets bigger roles he averaging like i don't know seventeen eighteen nineteen points per game right. I've opportunity reasonable jump. And if the nuggets remain one of the top teams in the west. He's getting more exposure. you know. he's just. He's playing the big games on tnt and stuff like that. I could see people voted for him as much as that. Upsets me because they hate a second year player winning most improved but shays in his third. I guess porter's sort of conclude his third because he didn't play in his first year there. But who do you have. Trae for 'em ip look here skeets players who averaged twenty five five and five. Last season harden jaanus lebron donncha ch- russell westbrook and kyrie irving and just a handful. The game so yes. If if s j comes out and puts up. Mvp numbers. i think he might be able to take on the most improved player award. But my pick de'andre aiden of the phoenix suns. I reason he's already pretty good. Eighteen and twelve last year shot. Fifty five percent from the floor made strides on defense looked a lot more competent. Looks like a guy who maybe not as the centerpiece of a defense but not a detriment to your defense in this year. He gets to play with chris. Paul we've already seen. Chris paul during the preseason yelling deondraye about where to be on the floor. This is the preseason. I paul made another deondraye de andre jordan into an all star into an all defensive team kind player. I think we're getting a little bit. Kinder gentler version of chris. Paul here he was nicely. Yelling deondraye eight and i thought i thought he was a little more chill than he was when he was yelling at andre jordan for not shooting that layup with time left on the clock. I just think it's going to vary much improve. Dan ratings career prospects playing alongside chris. Paul he's going to set them up for easy baskets inside is going. Get into lobs and the dunks. He's gonna get him post touches and he's going to have him in the right places on defense. The sons should be an improved team. And i think that Eight and could get some votes. That chris paul bounce could be real good pick eight and mean that's why we're talking about shake you'll just alexander at all in the first place right. Because he was paired up he learned under crispell. Hey look them. I p recently you do have to make that jump at appears to an all star level leelee. So i don't know if you're a continuing with that Thinking it's usually a good guy that goes to an you know an all star type of level even sometimes in all nba type level. With you know. I don't have the list in front of me. Your depots in your mall georgia's from years past and stuff like that who do you have for. Mvp ip this year with jamal murray but he was kind of good dan in the bubble that he's almost like i think it already reached that level where we know what he can be at. He just has to be playoff bubble. Jamal murray during the regular season because these regular season last year started very slow. You've got it together a little bit. But the average is aimed points a game in the playoffs. The average twenty six game on forty five percent shooting from downtown and he also had a huge moments down there. And i think i picked to be make an all star team and that's why i was a little bit disappointed that he didn't do it this year. I think if he doesn't that'll be a huge disappointment talking about michael porter jr. Who will have a bigger role for the nuggets. But i think jamal murray is the key for denver really putting themselves elevating themselves into that top group because yokich i think we we know what he's gonna do but mary show down there in the bubble he can be very very special when he's on because he's got that ability to turn games and turn series in did that twice really against against the jazz and then against the clippers he and he hit some huge odds. Of course. I got the game against the lakers where he was fantastic there as well so he is the sort of guy i think. He's got superstar potential. And i wanna see him. Show it during the regular season. So what will he do this year because he is a bit like yokich doesn't have that month where he has to play himself in these young. You should be ready to go. And i think the expectations on him a very very big. So i just i just wonder though if the horse has already bolted for that because it was like yeah. He's already too good like we if he puts what you said if he can continue to do what he did in the if he brings that to the regular season then. I think there's a case to be made the he's awesome. It's just awesome to watch that jamal. Murray because that first season he was a little bit inconsistent. The second season as well. But dan in in in the bubble i just thought that's sorta guy that He can be just need to do that during the regular season do it consistently not in not out because man he had a couple of those huge performances and if he can deliver that then i think the nuggets really do improve they. They had a bit of a rough season but he. He's the key for that team. Okay so yokich for mvp and murray for nuggets number one had your kids last year for mvp. And i just don't think he can. I can get it together for the entire season. Great as he is. Let's hear from you guys. 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No dunks for fifty dollars off your first order of ed treatment get roman dot com slash ducks all right back to the questions are burning questions as we call them one sort of looking backwards a little bit but of course it impacts moving forward best under the radar season. Move trae guinness started. What got your attention skates. I gotta ask you a question. I yeah how are we going here. How deep is an under the radar. Offseason move. I love the robert covington. Move for the blazers. This guy started for a playoff team. He's gonna start for another playoff team. He's made all defense in the past. The blazers traded two first round picks for him. This was a big over the radar move. Would you agree. Yes like like the start of a binge episode. I want you to go. Oh we're going. Righty then let me hit you with a little. Seth curry to the seventy six. He shook start. he's gonna shoot for the sixers. He's got great percentages by percentage. The greatest shooter in nba history. Just like leila's the greatest shooter in no dunks history. South korea only took five threes per game last year though. I don't know exactly how he will work in. The doc rivers system. But you have to imagine he's going to be taken more than that. Maybe eight or nine and that to me is the huge benefit over josh. Richardson was probably a better player on whole but curry. Just lets it fly and that let it. Fly factor is so huge josh. Richardson would get a lotta looks on the outside that may be turned into a pump fake and suddenly shooting a twenty foot or rather than. Something's going to be worth another point by taking a few steps back. I just like adding a guy who always going to do is every time he touches it. Make the right pass or shoot a three. That's exactly what the sixers need downgrading talent wise. I think upped their floor and their ceiling. A little bit getting a guy who's just gonna be a knockdown shooter. Love it for seth curry not to mention. They're getting some financial benefits as well. Josh is gonna be a free agent after this season whereas stuff. Seth curry is locked in for another three years on a pretty good deal. This was a great get for the sixers. Ironically i think josh richardson hit lake six threes. Last night for the mavericks. So yeah he's stepping back taking your advice there and trade. But that's a deep one. I liked that. Seth curry pick people are people are excited about getting shooters back around simmons and embiid. How daca implements them. Do you got really. I like big. Stephen adams going to the new orleans. Pelicans i was in a trade that big four right but i mean not in a hell under the radar that kansas stevens a very good player but they re they re upped in for two years and thirty five mill- while he was there so he's a part of their short term future there for sure people disagree with this one league. Hollander is not very high. What i'd like about it though is he's just a good strong tough guy. Which is what those younger guys. Ingram and zoya on me. Because i have powerful guy. But he's still a young he's body is still got some some maturing to do that and i have stephen having stephen adams as well. He's a great screen setup. He gets in there and get size rebounds. He's just a good solid defensive. Play and that's what these young go has needs because brandon ingram. I mean what's he got into his fifth season. Is it a full season. He still looks just so you know he's. He's one of those guys like chris bosh she just can't put white on. It seems and so. I think that's going to be as great as he's offensively. He was very good last season. He does get He becomes a little bit exposed on the defensive. I'm just because he can't sort of box guys in uses body to his advantage. So i think having stephen adams is a nice contribution to that team a nice addition i think it was good if david griffin to go out and get him. I was super super high on him when they made the pick. I do understand the feeling out there. That stephen adams just clogs the lane for zion williamson and other guys Because they're just not a lot of shooting on that team as ion needs to get to the rim. If you see a shot chart from last night it's just a bunch of dots at the rim us. Yeah and eric. Bledsoe ain't stretching out. You can leave him. Lonzo ball although that shot his improved. That's that's a worry. But i am in the the the camp that somehow stephen adams is gonna make things right. It's probably a bit of a just just a. It's a love affair with stephen adams that i have. That's why i'm definitely. I feel good about standing. Gun is obviously going to like him at the rim to make his defensive presence known but they're gonna have to figure that out him in in zion for sure zion handling the ball there though on the outside guys are sagging off him and it almost doesn't matter he's just going to get to the rim no matter. What even if there isn't any shooting out there it sure looks like he's just too big and too strong so He's got that juice going. Everybody excited for him last year. Kool-aid drunken in the preseason. It seems like it's happening again. He is he is looking He's looking good so far. Who do you have tasks as you're on the radar move like trey. I'm going to be into the league Brin forbes of the all right. I thought i was deep. And you went subterranean four marina four. Yeah maybe i'm overvaluing him. Because his last name was forbes on your list. Yeah he's on my top fifty of this year under the radar. Definitely abu for the san antonio spurs in four years. He shot forty percent from three. He is a start of the last two years. For the spurs. He's twenty seven years old so he knows his role lake. Sorta seth curry. This is where he gets his money. He's just gotta be a shooter and who is going to be. That guy is trade brought up earlier. You know your four guys on the floor gonna be drew janice brook lopez's in chris middleton forbes isn't a defender a but at the same time with those four guys i mentioned probably not at is you can look back at the bucks last year and say well kyle korver. Didn't really work out. Sort of in that same vein. Marvin williams really workout. He's in that same vein but burns a lot younger. And i just got faith in him as a to a defender and he's going to get some minutes get some burned. Because he's blamed for mike budenholzer and so dante di vincenzo. Starting shooting at this point a informed. I think we'll get his chance in the backward along with dj augustine and the guy guys just lights it up so just stand there and hit shots. I think we'll be seeing some bryan forbes. Threes made this season Even though he didn't make highlights last year with the spurs he was knocking them down. Yeah going from popovich to boot and halls is a pretty smooth transition. I think because in forbes bring forbes actually pretty decent offensively. I think he's a he's a solid player can hit those had a couple of gandhari. Hit six or seven three. So he's capable of doing it but a little inconsistent but again popovich's probably said the boot this guy's not too bad. I'm going to be completely transparent here. I forgot britain. Forbes is on the bucks. I thought we were looking at that spurs photo yesterday when we were talking about the best jerseys forces in that photo. Because he's on the bucks that's a de poll for sure and you like him a contributing a we already mentioned actually on this podcast move rhonda halls jefferson i. I don't think the wolves are ultimately going to make the playoffs. I've talked about. I think they are going to come up short but he is exactly the type of guy they need and he was solid for their upset times last year and he is just a defensive minded guy could still you can sort of use. A bit of a streaky guy can catch these like weird games where he just doesn't miss a shot every once in a while he had one in preseason for the wolves episode last night or the night before so. That's a nice pickup. That is a nice little move very under the radar. But those are the guys that you want to put around star guys specially to help defensely and he might get some burn there under ryan saunders for the timberwolves so i will go with him. I will also say it was one of the biggest moves in the offseason but we talked about it from the buck side of things then getting drew holiday. The pumpkins nabbed. Two i and to pick swamps for holiday sort of i mean i know it was written about at the time. That's pretty damn good. Return on a guy that we all talked about leaving eventually and griffin and lined to leverage milwaukee's fear of basically losing jaanus into getting to vets one in which they're keeping in blood which already traded in george hill and then these years worth of lottery picks a smooth smooth ass move for a team. That's gonna kill like what they're doing this year too. I think the pelicans still have plans to make the playoffs tournament. Right to make the playoffs. With some of their vets in riddick and atoms around their young talent and ingram's ion and stuff like that and ball but then they get all these bites at the apple. If you're honest leaves for those could be incredible. Picks so let's give a little love to griff who we love. On this show. A move was manscaping. it was smooth ass. Well let's talk. Let's talk puns. We always do this question. For some reason we've continued to do it in our season previews it's to predict a pun tastic new york post headline again. We've done this for five six seven years now. So why don't you get started. What new york post punchy headline are we going to see this year. Well the first very first game of the regular season on opening not worry is that nets. It's huge what a great start to the season. And i think the nets get the win and i think on the front page. You're gonna see a picture of a smiling. Kevin durant the words. Bobby's shoulder sort of in between there are surrounding his head. Easy money easy money sniper and then below. It says k. d. cao's former team who. Okay okay okay. So well the new york post showing some nets love usually focused on the knicks. But okay that. Hey a very very plausible. I would say. What are you have tasks. Well the knicks head coach is tempted. Oh he's gonna want to win basketball games. I'm not sure that's going to happen in new york their season so when things are not going very well and they keep losing games there will be a front page with dumped the video yelling screaming with the headline the fibbing point. Is it over now. Are we going to have to hand this guy okay. Ready to go with yeah. I think that's very very possible. Maybe like sort of a scales involved somehow in the graphic with him yelling there. Yeah all right. Y'all hopefully justice winslow beats them. And it's the scales of justice lewis grizzlies. What do you got trae. What's your new post headline. We're the only time i could come up with was nice is no. There's nothing that it actually made sense for. Just the fact that There have been numerous late nights. We've had talking about a business opportunity. Called nice is that would deliver ice to your house. Most desperately need ice cream. We're talking artisanal. But that is not my mind minus. Ob top and related. not only. Is he a new york guy. He's got the perfect name for pun. So i think that's two of the reasons that the knicks drafted him. Maybe he dunks really hard on. Somebody's head on top in. Maybe he gets injured. Oh no be maybe. He has a fifty point game wall. we obey. He's got a perfect name for pun. Go crazy post. what a pat. He hit a game win. Ob one well look this guy's in juneau they're having a star wars. We are in sync trae because that was my pick as well. He's already made the new york post already in the preseason. Show a jd. there it is. He cracked the back. Page of the new york. Post with is actually a brutal take on his name flight on top and i mean come on. You can do better than that. But maybe they're saving for the regular season so you said it star wars night. That's an obvious one. Obi wan kenobi twice in there for crying out loud. The knicks defeat. The spurs. Top of the pops. All right and then. I think you like this one. Although it's better to save than read. I realized after a monster. Top twenty twenty. We're going to get like an austin powers inspired ob. Hey i realized it won't look as good when you because it's gotta be like. Ob i and then it just sounds like and then read it as have says it'll be have but until behave a real gameboy found austin powers obe man by rockstar games. The maker of grandpa. yes so in red dead redemption. Yes so the must-have jd. You went to this little early. But that's fine my man yeah trey. I saw this this dump on for obt open. And i couldn't believe this game existed. Like this is an austin powers. Gameboy color doing this. I don't know. I don't know but we gotta find out i think we gotta start up no dunks twitch and play. Ob so yeah. So yeah train out you and i thinking through all these. Ob top and puns near post headline could could do and it makes sense because they'd all be using adobe photoshop all right. We got a great comment in the stream team from her vander of andrew. Who says i just imagined you guys sitting at home. Thinking about your puns laughing by yourself. Yeah that's exactly what we're doing and now we're doing it on the podcast from our homes laughing. The is was trying to work in is finding their ice ice baby or something like that ice to beat. You put his head on. Arnold schwarzenegger movie is obi. The thing is. The idea is just doesn't because that's like him just calling it out on defense but it's it's so it's so ingrained. In what tips does. That's what we're going to hear so you're trying to figure it all right. Okay well if you have a new york post headline that you expect we'll see this year. Let us know the stream team. Let us know tweet at us at no dunk sink. I love the cherry on top. Then by tracinda raymond nice. I mean that's the funniest like you think. You're going to go with obi but actually it's the top and that you're probably gonna have more to play with with that tongue you know. There's not a lot of things that rhyme with. Obi really not a ton bobi. I got because it's not it's not at the front of my loopy. I'd like that. Let's call it there. Part two of our burning questions season preview series get you know dunk merch. No dunks dot com. Get your questions in for our next step in email. No dunks at the athletic dot com. That's best way to get him to leave your five star ratings and reviews on apple podcasts. Make sure you subscribe to us on youtube back tomorrow. Back on wednesday to answer more burning questions about the upcoming nba season. Can't wait until then clipper pros. You heard it here. I have a great time. Turn up love you guys awesome. Thanks for joining us and remember the name of the nineties r. and b. group that we talked about earlier is definitely tony. Tony tony not. I'm not sure if that was a joke. Oh does tony. Tony towing lovie today. You can stay. It's been so long video.

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