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21: The Trader Joe's Episode: Our Favorite Things (Part 2)

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21: The Trader Joe's Episode: Our Favorite Things (Part 2)

"Hungry. It's. I'm so hungry. It's the whistle that gets me on that with. I love the whistle to. It's me Lisa Lillian live from Hungary, land with Mikey, and Jamie welcome to the to the right thing podcast. Very, very excited because this is part two of our trader. Joe's episode couldn't get enough. I didn't eat again because I know we're going out some good food. We always have good food, especially from trader Joe's. I mean, and if anyone tuned in last week, if you didn't tune in last week, you need to. And if you did, you know we couldn't even get through all of the amazing finds that we have found, and we've loved forever from trader Joe's some new, some old favorites. And this week we're focusing on snacks. Sweets and more more is key because there's so much more than snacks and sweets like bed bath. It's the beyond. Your does. Could you imagine if you've got those twenty percent off coupons trader Joe's don't do any coupons? No, they don't Mason there. So low already there so low and they're so special. I Meyer trader Joe so much. We the love we feel for traderjoes knows no bounds. I love them with the heat of thousand Suns. That's hot. That's very. So speaking of hot, what, what news you got. All right. It's fischel trader Joe's is getting into the Rahman business actually they've, they've done it last month. They released a new line of Rahman soups. The flavors are chicken and me, so and according to the package, the missile flavored packet is a taste of me. So garlic and a hint of seaweed and the chicken is chicken, stock garlic onion, and soy sauce. And what makes them different from coupling dole or those other styrofoam cups is that it comes with an extra packet of sunflower and sesame oil. So you put the oil in after you heat it up and they say that packet is to give it a more of a silky, smooth texture, and it's not bad in calories. One container is only one hundred eighty calories. Now we were going to try some tried to get him and they're sold out all three trader Joe's in our area. Yeah. And they said that they're restocking it as soon as they can probably the beginning of October. So not too far away. I think it's crazy that we can't get our hands on it. Talk about having no pull at trader Joe's after all the love. We give them. We can't even get the darn Rahman in our faces. I know. That's not fair. It's crazy because I love Robin, I am a huge Rahman fan and about you. I do, but I always wonder it without the noodles, which is very ironic, but the fat. No. Let me tell you this really little Jane. This is a good hack. I'm telling you can make fun of me all you want, but Rahman restaurants are all the rage right now, and you can go there and they offer you thousand one toppings. So I go in and I usually get the chicken Rahman and I'll get it with the white meat chicken. And then I had bean sprouts which act as my noodles, and then I will often get the egg and then the broccoli and whatever veggies they are offering, and it is a giant bowl, and it is not just soup. It's everything, but the noodles. Jerry LA, Jamie, we Jewish LA. She gets the chicken noodle soup without the neutrals or multiple suit without the multiple. So that makes me. Yeah. Yeah, that's the way to do it. A lot of places now serve the chicken soup without the noodles, which is a good thing. That's good. But fair to the Rahman. See, I'm not. I'm the opposite. I'd rather just have all the noodles and leave the soup. I don't care for the were meant to be because I give him my mom all night the broth. Yeah, you're the noodles to her soup. Exactly the soup to your noodles. I did find some reviews online there. It's mixed. Some love it. Some say it's not as a couple of noodles. Someone else said that it's too small. So once we get our hands on, it will be decide for themselves to be continued. Yes, yeah, I'm excited to try it. I really am. I have a feeling it is going to be small because it's not reduced guilt, maybe reduced noodle or reduced in size, but we will see when we see it. We could ever get our faces on hopefully hopefully might be full guilt. Full Rahman. That'd be the great marketing marketing tagline for. That's all I have. Okay. Well, that's good. That's more trader Joe's news or good with the trader. Joe's news on top of it. Good work. Thank you. So this episode is focusing on snack sweets and more as I said and the thing about snacking. We are big snacker here. I am a big snacker, but my snacks are more like mini meals because my philosophy about snacking is if you can feel satisfied and you know, you can only take in maybe one hundred eighty two, two hundred twenty calories that it's going to stop you from overeating during your meals. And I think some of the snacks that are more traditional did a bag of, you know, low fat chips, which by the way there is a time and place for and we're gonna get to some of that later today, but like bars and things. I only really use those in emergency situations. I keep them in my purse. I keep them when I travel. But if a bar is one hundred eighty or two hundred calories, I would so much. Rather have something that felt like food and so many of the things at traderjoes solve that and and serve that purpose. So I'm excited to talk about them. Some of the snacks are frozen, which is fine. You can't really keep them in your purse. They're not snacks, but one of my favorites is the Turkey corn dog, or do you guys like corn dogs who doesn't like corn dogs. I don't stick its corn. Corn dogs and actually hoping because we're trying it that there are two in there so you guys can share one. I can have the other one for myself. Think we have to prepped. I don't know. We are going to try them, but these Turkey corn dogs. The reason why we love him so much only one hundred and fifty calories, not even how much fat is in those. I think we have a box with all the stats on them guys have four and a half grams of fat. Nothing not bad. I mean, I do eat the MorningStar corn dogs stick razor. Amazing. Those are vegetarian, but this if you want the real thing, if you want meet, this is a great option. Microwave, would you put them in the oven? Great. You can't new. I really want a candle to you guys can if from an a bite into this, you guys are going to don't care if it has germs on it, not Jamie's dream. So. But what I'm saying is I'm gonna bite this. Then you can have this one. Is this one out? Go ahead, get one, James. Catch up and I don't need them the mustard. I don't know why there's catch up, but there's. For eating, this would put ketchup, no barbecue sauce. The smiles on their very full faces right now. Did you just call a spat faith. Full food. There's nothing like a corn dog gets plus plus, plus plus plus. Okay. I feel like I'm at a carnival look so happy. You're like blowing. This is like wedding day Leeson her corn dog. You're getting air delicious to picture release, enter corn. Dog don't snap a photo of me. No. She's the boss, Mikey. No, no picture will be taken. Or mustard saying, are you saying catching honestly, if you have kids or even if you don't, this is the perfect food to share with your child. Truly, I don't wanna double dip the you can double dip. I'm not eating any measure. She's just closing down, sell fees and this all fell off. You can even eat. This only had one bite, Mike, if you eat both of those where not a dollar. I'll give you a dollar. Cavalier dinner. All right. What a good snack and you. It just makes you happy. I dare anyone to try one of these and not smile. It's not gonna happen. We should. We should start the corn. Dog challenge go to trader Joe's good hashtag corn. Dog challenge try and take a bite and not smile after can't do it can't be done. I don't know if the same can be said for the carrot and p vegetable patties. Sorry, to go from such a high to what doesn't sound quite as exciting, but I love these things. Do we have any information on them or would you have a box handy because they have only fifty calories. They look like mini burger patties, but they're great side dish a great snack, and they taste like delicious peas and carrots in Patty form. Peas and carrots. I am Forrest Gump jetty would like peas and carrots, that's that's pretty good, but they're made from vegetables and the and they are good for you and d. listen, very unique. They're not begin. They have some egg whites on them. So if we have fed them to Lauren, I hope she hasn't eaten vegetarian. I always feel like they should go out of their way to their way to make these things vegan. Now, I know as more and more people become plant based, I think more and more like MorningStar farms. They're going back and making a lot of their vegetarian meals vegan. So these particular ones have egg whites. Thank you for joining that out the next neck love these, the steamed chicken soup, dumpling. I wish you were here me to. They're so good if they were here, they would have been gone already. We would've eaten them. The whole container has to injured and fifty calories and the thing about soup dumplings. I don't know if you guys have had soup dumplings a regular dumpling, only. It's loaded with sue, take a by that of it and it like explodes soup, just falls out into your face. The best like sensory experience ever. I love it. It's yummy and you get six dumplings for only two hundred and fifty calories so that to me, it's a mini meal or it's a snack. Okay. Next to find it's chicken Shuai. So we just talked about the soup dumplings but they have chicken and vegetables dumplings with Tengiz soya sauce. Six of those have only one hundred and forty calories. I love Shuai the fact that you could have this as a snack instead of a snack bar. That's going to be gone in three bites, like so much more senseless. Every so yummy. It's such comfort food. I don't know if you feel like I do, but like dim-sum Shuai dumplings one tonnes. They just they make me tingle because like pillows, you could like curl up with them. Talk about hood. Is he comfort food? You could absolutely you can nap on them and then eat them. Don't do it the other way around because then you wouldn't have anything to nap on eight them. I why haven't they invented? I mean, they have motorhomes, but why haven't they invent in? And you can get a cooler. 'fraid to hear the. They know have cars with with built in coolers. Why don't they have built in microwaves in cars seriously for when you're stuck in traffic or you're on a road trip and need something really quick boom in the fridge, or you know, in the in the cooler and then you pop into the microwave too. And one doesn't sound say, please don't leave us when you become a billion. So speaking of the dumplings in the soup dumplings we're gonna move onto soup because trader Joe's is great at soup. We're soupy here. It's a new term. I carry a spoon like the way some people carry a lipstick in their purse around your neck, like flavors. Well, no, like flavors. Boom, you should do that. Almost like Mr. t. didn't used to have like cutlery around his city. I don't know a gold knife and four thought he did. I don't. Maybe I'm just dreaming this now. Maybe I need one of those sitting right there. There's a cross around his neck. Oh, I love. I love this. Does anyone out there Mr. t. like eighteen those when my favorite show. Anyway, I digress. We, we're talking about a spoon around your neck. Oh, soup. We love soup soup. I say the step probably once a week in my life, but people who eat soup tend to take in about twenty percent fewer calories overall than people who don't. This is research backed people. It is, and the reason behind it really by the way, it's not all soups. You can't just have like a giant creamy lobster bisque. But if you ever breath based soup and you soup responsibly it can drastically decrease your calorie intake because it fills you up. And if you have a birthday soup with reasonable stats, you will feel fuller and you will feel fuller longer and you eat less food. And that's one of the reasons I love soup. Another reason I love soup is that it just tastes delicious. So there's nothing wrong with soup. And one of the best soups at traderjoes is their chicken and veggie one-tonne soup. This is a frozen soup, bright, it's frozen, and I always thought it was interesting when soups came frozen. I like frozen soups better than canned soups. Actually, although I do eat canned soups and there's plenty of great canned soups. They tend to taste fresh. So this is a very fresh tasting soup, and it's interesting because it's called on soup, but the shape of the so-called one tonnes is more like dim dim-sum. So it's like dimsum soup, and it has a lot of salon tra-. So if you are one of those people that thinks Alonzo tastes like soap, you will not like the soup unless you want soap soup. But I love launcher a ton of on anything. It's great. What's the stats? Like only two hundred twenty calories for the whole thing. So again, this is like a mini meal or snack of it. It's had it for lunch. The other day it did not disappoint. Okay. The next soup that they have trader Joe's and this is one that comes in the refrigerator section. So it's in the fridge area. It's the tomato Fetisov. I love it by its name alone like that. Just fed a that sounds. How can you go wrong? It sounds rich decadent and it is. It's a little creamy, not overly creamy and the fed the saltiness of the federal works. So well with the sweetness of the tomato, it is just a home run and a Cup of that only one hundred thirty calories. Do you know what you could do if you wanted to be fancy? I know what you're gonna say, but say it take cherry tomatoes and put little crumbles of Fedor in them and serve it with your soup. Oh, let is fancy. No, I was thinking of something else, but that's a great idea. Are you going to say, tell you in a minute, but Mike. Has something important to say. I don't forget. I won't. Is it a Fiqh soup? It's a, it's not a. It's like a tomato soup. Tomato soup by nature is a little bit thicker than like just like a broth. Would it be good over like pasta or Paul menia or something? I don't know if it's quite thick enough to do that with, but. It is. It's hardy and it's completely yummy. What I thought you were going to say was that you're gonna take your favorite seafood blend Pino. Would be great and also grilled cheese and tomato soup is amazing. So if you make like a Greek set and spinach, grilled cheese with that tomato Fetisov out of this world. Wow. Can we stop the show now go eat these, but wait. No, because I'm excited for this next this next item. Yeah, it's all the pureed soups. Jamie, you're like, lean live in the period soup section between trader Joe's period tubes, which are your favorite? Okay. So I love the butternut squash, which comes in low sodium, and I like to get that and like basically any soup recipe that you can make with broth, if you make with their period soups, they have roasted red pepper. They've creamy tomato. I think they have a corn one. They're all like around one hundred calories or less. I mean, check the labels, but a lot of them hundred dollars or less and they just make any like normal soup tastes amazing. Carriage, the carriage that may be my favorite one. Okay. Moving onto chips and snacks. You know, we love this. I, I really have, to be honest, I try not to. Eat too many chips or like crunchy snacks because I can't control myself. If I ever feel myself getting out of control. It's about one thing. It's chips, it's necks. So I almost feel like it makes me feel weird grim around a bag of the stuff. But I have to single out some of the things that I love, and then I have found and then also tell you a funny story because the trader Joe's world's puffy est white cheddar corn puffs, which by the way, best best best name for any snack food of all time, world's puffy est in the Guinness Book of world. No, that is not a superlative I would want in my yearbook. Jamie. We're old puffy, est, senior, no, but no, I don't know what you're right though. It's not like the world's most delicious, the world's cheesiest puffy and they looked like pirate's booty on steroids. So Agean like you love pirate's booty. Pirate's booty is like it's almost like a modern day slash healthy cheesy, poof, kind of thing, like a cheese doodle like a little round cheese doodle, and these are tremendous and the bags are tremendous. The problem is I have a mocking alive eaten like the whole bag in a twenty four hour period. And there are a lot of servings, but two point, five cups have a hundred and thirty calories. I think that may be seven servings in the back, but that's a really good portion for a snack. Like usually chips. It's like, you know, I know, I know. And then my dad who so cute. He's in his eighties. He came to visit probably a couple of months ago, and he found these in my house and proceeded to eat the entire bag like like an at like some kind of a crazed animal, his hand in the bag to. His face until the whole bag was gone. And then he fell in love with them and located a local trader Joe's in Denver where he lives and for his birthday, we bought him eleven bags. Can we please post the picture of your dad's sitting in a chair covered in bags of world puffy, cheddar puffs? We will post this picture. It's worth where are they going to find this picture? Oh, well, they can go to Hungary dash girl that com slash food cast and click on the trader Joe's episode to see that that's where you'll find it Nacho cheese tortilla strips Nacho cheese. They're just like Doritos only. They're healthier and they don't have MSG and you can eat fourteen chips for a hundred and forty calories. These are my pantry nonstop constantly always by two and I go there make you stay again. I have to have them in my pantry. How long the bags last you? Two days longer than that depends on what I'm away because I like to have it with my meal, but it but I could definitely kill half a bag in one sitting. These e this is vice hungry, so you have to push them out for me portion amount. Like I know what my trigger foods are. These are ultra foods for me portion them out or just a void all altogether. But the next snack people are going absolutely bonkers over these. These are the Bumba peanut snacks Bumba we are here ready to try them live what you could eat forty. One hundred sixty hours. They're elephants on the package. Hold on a, we don't know if this somebody openess snacks. Yes, and then I don't know somebody beat us to it. This is three serving. That's bad because yesterday I had a bag. This is that had five servants peanut butter or peanut. So they look with cheese doodles. So there's shape of like a true cheese doodle, and instead of being covered with cheese, they're covered with like peanut butter hole. Lighten airy dangerous out that whole bag on Rome. No added sugar. They are perfect. Great. That's like almost peanut butter almost good. You know what I would do because one of my things that I would dip them in peanut butter. Josh peanut normal more that's out of control. You get forty of them. I would sit there and count forty for one hundred sixty calories. Worth it. It's worth it, but what I like about it because Jamie, as you mentioned, no added sugars, you don't have that desire to keep eating eating. They're not overly salty and they're not overly sugary. So they're not as a dictator as they could be honestly. Okay. We have another snack to try the baked Chiro bites. These are heavy. Well, those they should be because they're bigger. And so you get nine pieces for hundred twenty calories. But these are like, cheers, you'd find a carnival got only Jamie loss. Jamie lost her microphone. Poof. Oh, they smell so good. So hold on. These are like, carnival tros wait. So what? So we'll let me have one first and then other thick. Crazy very many. Here's what you do. You have a carnival day, you have the corn dog as your meal. Then you have this as your dessert. That's a smart idea would put this in a cereal bowl and put milk over it. That would be dangerous. You crunch it up, crush it up, put an Israel, but think about if you had a Chiro from the carnival and let it sit out an air, dried it for like three days. That's what this tastes accept. It doesn't taste dirty. It tastes clean. Really good. So delicious. Are we get whole bag? You get like nine pieces, get one hundred twenty. It's exactly what you get spectacular. I'm pieces. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, they're nice size. We're moving onto dips. Dips are your friend. I love a good dip. I love the trader Joe's dips for while we have a lot of good recipes. So we can appreciate when people take the time to make dips better for you because a lot of people just throw a lot of ingredients you don't need and make dips that are overly fatty and bad for you. We're looking at you mayo. So trader Joe's takes things like salon show in Chinese and makes a yogurt dip out of genius, which is a Mediterranean dip and only has sixty calories for two tablespoons, which is very impressive because I know thick. Yeah. I mean, do we don't have that? But I just had that last week here and I have to say it's like you don't even need to tablespoons. I think one tablespoon is planning and you put it on sandwich chicken. Yeah, you can cook with it. Having a fish. It's great and. Then another standout dip is the reduced guilt. Love that term, spinach and kale, Greek yogurt, dip, two tablespoons of that only has thirty calories. I would swim in a bathtub full of it. That's like a a restaurant, spinach dip swap and instead of the mail, these Greek yogurt. So there's some protein in it, and it tastes amazing. Both of those dips are worth seeking out. But I have to say when you're at trader Joe's and you're looking at the dips pick a few ones up like different ones, not even the ones that we just talked about because there are a lot more dips that are great. Read the stats, triumph yourself, and see what your favorites are for Jamie's birthday. I'm gonna go, go buy like a thousand of them for into the bathtub from around in it. You are the most thoughtful husband die. Thank you. How can we can't clone you. Okay, condiments and more. We're moving onto condiments. I have a friend that's afraid of condiments really is condom into phobia. Yeah, he will not eat a condiment. And it's funny. Would he thinks a condiment what isn't doing very well? Yes. You know, what is he's afraid of condiments? Wow. His name is John. Well, he's sitting it is. It is thought it was Robert? No, no, no. Robert leader Cauchon needle. Condiments. John doesn't eat condiments. He is a fear of condiments, so he likes to see like plain food. Is that? Yeah, pretty much, but you like olive oil and butter, he'll put some things on things, but we we some things on things, but we like hundreds here. So. Wake me open up a restaurant called things on things, things on just like everything's layered because he things on lettuce, rise on tortillas, different sections, the menu things. Lettuce wraps, things on things. Don't steal this idea. Things would just be playing plates with like whatever only good idea. All right. So is sauce condiment I say yes, definitely. Okay. Well, the pineapple salsa from trader Joe's my gosh, nothing better in the world. If if you take away nothing else from this particular episode take away the fact that you must March or drive or roller skate trader Joe's and pick up a jar of the pineapple salsa to tablespoons have ten calories and it is the most perfectly sweet will season salsa. It's the perfect texture. It's not overly smooth. It's not overly chunky. You can cook with it. I put it on chicken. I put it in tuna burgers burgers. There is nothing you can't do with the salsa. I would vote for this also. President would. I would skip down a beach with it. It's great. I wish we had some here, but I ate it all tally for Jamie's birthday in two years. Gonna get her case of the salsa. The salsa and let us skip such date, big on the birthday celebrations, make it special. Okay. And coming up. Now as far as salad dressings, we have a staffer pick. So while you let us know what our staff thinks of a special dressing, I'm Aaron and I love the trader Joe's green goddess salad dressing because it is a fraction of the calories of any other light gotta sell dressing. You'll find in the supermarket, and it's very flavorful, doesn't use mayo and you can use twice the amount of normal gotta sale dressing because it's only twenty calories for two tablespoons serving. Thanks Erin. She calls it goddess dressing because she thinks she's a goddess. Is that why? It's green goddess? Okay. Bring on the goddess dressing. We want to try it, but I love errands. Accent. She's from Rochester, Chester smells a little vinegary. Interesting. Te'o. Oh yeah. Yeah. I don't know what it tastes like. I don't. I have to be honest creamy as as regular agreeing on us. Well, maybe green goddesses. We ain't got us a super framing. Normally, I've never had them Vigia based again, twenty calories for tablespoons. Interesting. Tomato gringos normally with like a ranch. And then I think it is. It's like a creamy green. This is very good. This is cold. It's excellent. It has auto KADO green onion lemon juice, chives, basil, and garlic. It's vegan. Does this in the refrigerated section. It's extremely. It's really, really different and yummy. I love this because you can have so much of it for so few calories. That is all true. You eating on a carrot. Yum. Don't forget about the best condiment and more item ever. Oh, I can't, but this is not a condiment. That's why saved it for last. It's a seasoning. I don't think of seasoning condiments. If it's in the condiments. We have it here bringing on, okay, this seasoning, it's called everything, but the bagel seasoning, which means, what do you think it means? It's everything. You find that an everything bagel you, Mike, you love everything bagels. So have you tried this on stuff? Don't think so. Okay. So it's cease old garlic onion black sesame seeds, white sesame seeds. It is everything that you find that an everything bagel. I don't know. I grew up in New York, so I know everything bagels, like the back of my hand. And if you put this, do you see that you could make anything taste like everything, big, your hand isn't everything we're moving on from the condiments and more to the sweet sections wheat and you know what? I'm not really sweet person like, I don't want to say I'm not a sweet person. I can be thoughtful times, but I'm not a sweets fan as much as I am savory fan. So. Some of these things that I'm super excited about a have to be really, really, really good one of these items. It's the mango and cream bars flipped over these. I did. I totally flipped because I went to visit my family in Denver, and when we were buying my dad, those twelve bags or whatever those giant puffy puffs we found these and my brother proceeded to eat the entire box in the car, no way. No way he eight six zero six in a row. And then that's podcast is happily now these don't have sticks. So they're bars that you have to eat with your hands, which is weird and they're like little like criminals. There mango sorbet with vanilla ice cream of one of these because I saw you flip over and I'm not had one seventy thirty seventy percent mango cream. Yeah, that's actually a good ratio and there's no stick. No switch means is no fiber because the fiber would be messed right, but they're delicious and you don't miss the stick but don't eat the paper anyway. Moving on the next thing, Brown, rice, Marsh. Hello treats Brown rice, marshmallow treats. If you're a fan of like Rice Krispies treats, these are the best wop ever hundred calories for a bar. I think we have them here. We we not trying them if we're not trying them. That's a shame because they're in the back in our kitchen, but are like gooey marshmallow. We deliciousness nice size bar for one hundred calories, and I have to say they keep nicely in your purse or really good emergency desert. So like if you go to a restaurant, everyone's pigging out and you're like, this is depressing. You get in the car. Just take a bite of that. You'll be happy. Now. It's a great whole grain version of a classic kid treat exactly. And now the the final desert pick, we've got a staffer who is recommended something that we all love. Hi, I'm Lydia and I love trader Joe's dark chocolate meant coins because I can eat eight of them for one serving, and I think they're better than thin mints. Wow. She can need eight of them for a hundred forty calories and they do taste like thin mints. They're small and you can get a lot of them for a small calorie count, and people here flipped over them when we had them at the office a couple of weeks ago. So support to the dark chocolate mint coins. All right. But trader Joe's doesn't only have things for humans. You know that, right? We're all pet owners. Here we can talk. We could talk Turkey. That's true. They had a cat and dog treats and I have to say my Lolli who was not only an avid podcast listener and the hungry girl mascot. She carefully makes appearances here on this show and she was asking begging if you will, to see if she could review the begging treats for dogs. So these are their liver flavored, begging treats dogs and their freeze dried and Lawley loves him. And she wanted to tell you all about how she feels about them. Littering avenue. Me valley Yang. I'm here with my review, Sal. I really liked trader Joe's a lot of things to expert people, but for dogs to my favorite favorite treats, I've tried to far a begging treats coming liver flake, but which I really like, I don't know why they're caught begging treats. I find that when I bid for treats, I get them less often them when I'm just at good girl and I'm giving treat. So I disagree with the name. Other than that, the math feel is really good there Liden area in crispy NA case like lever, which I really enjoy and they're different from some other treats which are very high. These are very easy to to, so they're not dental treats and they don't really serve any other purpose, but just guessed at life, which I appreciate. Okay, that's my review. Thank you traded Joe's volley Hugh. Flawlessly. Very thorough review than we are. We should have her hosting speaks really well better than me and she has good taste. So those liver tweets are great. I do feed her and also the cat of freeze dried version of the chicken. But the ones from trader Joe's or liver flavored and there are harder to find and she loves them. So if you have a dog out there and you wanna give your dog, you treat that's a good option for you. Do do you guys have a dog that eats treats trader Joe's penny? I haven't bought on her treats from tritter Joe's yet, but maybe I should because I, I did look when I went there last time and they do have a really good section so I should check it out. Try these deliver treats Lally says so. So I gotta follow Lally. Okay, that's all the product recommendations. But before we go, we have time for a round of chew or false, right? Jamie we do. We do trader Joe's based. I hope. You know it, of course, it's trader Joe's themed. So all right. Are you guys ready? You ever trivia hats on, you're gonna guess each statement is it chew true or false? Ready, chew or false trader Joe's once had a miniature bull terrier named Joe Joe as its mascot, but they've phased out the pups marketing presence when targets super similar icon shot to fame in the nineties. I'm gonna say false because I never remember seeing a dog. I'm gonna say falls because I kinda remember a few episodes ago. We talked about there being a lobster and every trader Joe's and that was the mascot or so. I don't know if it was a lobster something seafood e. So I say false. Well, you're right that there was a lobster wasn't a mascot. It was just they do. They hide, but it is false. I made that up good. Good, clever, thanks. Okay. Number to chew or false. There was once an unaffiliated store in Canada called pirate Joe's that sold bootleg trader Joe's goods that have been snuck over the border. I say that's true because people have been obsessed with trader Joe's from the beginning and they would stop at nothing to either capitalize on that or to try to get some product totally grew up. It's true. It's true and they, you know. So they were sued. There was a lawsuit and they didn't actually lose. They just run out of money and had to shut down the store 'cause it was costing them so much to be in the lawsuit. All right, mixing things up. This is not going to be a true or false. It's going to be which of the following unexpected products detroiter Joe's actually wants cell. Was it a temporary tattoos? Trader Joe's themed. Of course, the pantyhose, see pumpkin spice kale chips or d. tola socks. What was the first one temporary tattoos, temporary tattoos? I would say temporary. Tattoos are gonna go along with the Hawaiian theme that they have and say tola socks because that seems like a Hawaii thing to do. I stumped you both. It's pantyhose hand. Trader Joe's pant that little section for. A home, toiletries and stuff, so that makes sense. Maybe I still think I was thinking about wearing the temporary tattoos. All right. Last one, she were false. The original name for traders for trader Joe's was Hawaii Joe's, but they changed in nineteen seventy two. So people didn't think it exclusively sold Hawaiian, inspired cuisine. I'm gonna say that sounds like it could be true, so true. That's false. It's false. The original name was pronto markets prompt. Oh, I like that. I have to tell you. I didn't know that answer because they were first. They try to be a competitor of seven, eleven at first and then realized that they couldn't. And then they went to triggers trader Joe's brilliant, brilliant marketing. And it's just one of those emotional brands that people just love. So I am happy and proud to promote their products and to sing the praises. 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Episode 14: Why Is Everyone So Nice?

Inside Trader Joe's

24:03 min | 1 year ago

Episode 14: Why Is Everyone So Nice?

"Here's what's coming up on inside trader Joe's Dave trader Joe's fifty one years. I ended up being in that store for four hours hearing story after story after story like that, that makes me really emotional try being there. I love the soy Therese. Oh, actually, I'm not vegetarian but I could be fooled easily. So right now, we're headed into session of trader Joe's university, or TJ you, as we call it the podcast through is here we are encouraged to be ourselves surprises me to this day. Everybody's like yet. Just keep being weird done. We can teach anybody how to put a can of corn on the shelf, but how to connected somebody and do that in a way that engaging and inspiring is different. This episode is about are amazing wonderful fabulous. Crew members should we let one of them do the honors? Let's hi. This is Cindy crew member from Carmel mountain California. Are you ready? Let's go inside. Trader joe's. I'm Tara Miller. The director of words and phrases and clauses. And I'm still manslaughter on the marketing product guy. What's the question? We get asked most here at traderjoes. Why did we discontinue my all time favorite snack? Not that one. I know what it is. I know we get this all the time, why is everybody so nice. Exactly. Why is everybody so nice? So that's what this episode is about week at that question or versions of that question all the time. It looks like everybody's having fun. Is it mandatory? Do you guys do special exercises before the shift starts? What is going on here? Well, it turns out having a happy crew makes for a happy workplace and people like to stick around in a happy place. So how long have you worked here, man? I'm in my twenty six th year. I like to think I was hired to cut the cheese. Now truly we used to cut and wrap cheese at each. Store when I started at trader Joe's, and that was one of my main tasks when I was a crew member of brand new crew member I'm going to be at seventeen years in a couple of months, and it does feel like it's gone by really fast. I love shopping at trader Joe's. And when I was making a career move, I sat down at my computer and I wrote a letter to our CEO, Dan, Bain and told him, I would really love to come and work for this company that must have been a pretty good letter. I guess, so I guess that's why I'm the director of words and phrases and clauses because I figured out how to put all those together and, and make a good letter. Now admittedly being trader Joe's crew member isn't for everybody. But for many of us, we just couldn't imagine, working anywhere else. We asked trader Joe's president, Brian pal bomb. Why is everyone so nice. And this was his answer because they are. I think that's one of the first things that we focus on, when we're looking to hire people start with people that are outwardly. Nice very difficult. To train someone to be nice, but if they come into the door to the interview, and you can sense that, these are just nice people while you're, you're all the way home as far as looking for good people. So laurie. And Colleen, how long have you worked for trader traderjoes, I still consider myself a newbie it. I'll be here fifteen years in July. It will actually be thirteen years on the tenth is the thirteenth anniversary gift is that paper or linens always mixed that up. I was hoping it was cookie. Spanker. Lori is our vice president of human resources. And Colleen is our director of recruitment and development. When I started fifteen years ago, we were around ten thousand crew members and now we're at about forty six thousand crew members a little more than twenty percent of that group has tenure of ten years or longer, that's a standing, and then there are people with forty forty five fifty years, that, just blows my mind that there's a business that has people with it today that were there on the first day of that business of that almost forty six thousand people, a couple of hundred our office, people disavow point seven percent of our people working in the office. Because we often say, there are no cash registers in the office and customers don't should know shop here either. You know it's the stores where it really matters. I'm really just support for the stores helping them. You know, get their timesheets right to process payroll, helping them with employee relations issues. We have training and developments part of HR in so we're bringing people in all that time to give them leadership development. I loved the Thurs trader Joe's university. I think that might be a surprise to a lot of people. Right. So we have a very, very strong promote from within process in our stores and mentioned, all of our store managers are captains are promoted from the assistant manager may ranks. And what trader Joe's university really serves to do is help to develop their leadership skills. We fly people into our office here in Monrovia, or to Boston or into Chicago to run these two day classes focused on leadership and really the goal is not just to create leaders at trader Joe's, which provide content material that helps people just be the best version of themselves anywhere. They are from people all the time. Oh my gosh. I use that with my kids softball team or oh. My goodness. I had a really tricky discussion with my neighbor, and I was actually better prepared for from that TJ trader Joe's university session. I'll tell you we've had more than one may come back to their second round of TJ you training saying that it helped to save their marriage, which is pretty powerful stuff to hear that the, the keys of listening to people and providing respect and sharing the way you're feeling and praising people help to strengthen their, their marriages, even and speaking of listening. We're going to be listening in on some classes at trader Joe's university, or TJ you coming up a little bit later in this episode. If you put trader Joe's against other retail, companies we put trader Joe's against other companies just in the wider American corporate atmosphere. How do we stack up we pay very well? And we, we like tenure we, you know, we want to keep people a long time so that they know our customers, and they can talk about our, our products, one of the things that we do for cruise we give them raises twice a year. So every August and February crew were reviewed and they have the opportunity for a salary increase that comes out to about a seven percent increase a year, so you can imagine as years go by it really starts to add up. That's a lot. It is it really is a lot. We start people at a really fair wage. We're looking for talent. We're looking for people who like to work as part of a team. Yeah they're real team player. But does everyone go about that team? Interaction the same way knows lots of different styles. Right. Lots of different styles. It doesn't just mean work at trader Joe's that you wear a huge personality and you're shouting across all the customers and hosting a party. Some of the best connections. Are those sort of understated real personal intimate connections that we make our customers? It's a people business. We can teach anybody how to put a can of corn on the shelf, the how to connect somebody and do that in a way that's engaging and inspiring is different. If we all were the same it'd be pretty boring. We also offer medical and dental and vision to anyone who works over thirty hours a week. Averages over thirty hours a week. And it's a really great medical plan. The crew member premium is very small with, with trader Joe's picking up the large majority of it almost all of it. My premiums are very low in the marketplace. They started to rank plans by medals, right? They had platinum plans and gold plans and silver plants and bronze plans, and they differed, depending on copays deductibles, things like that. Well, that's what's kind of interesting about the trader Joe's plans. We only offer gold and platinum level plans. We also have an amazing retirement plan. If you work seven hundred or more hours than a year, and then you're there, the next year the first day of the next year you get a contribution. The trader Joe's contribution is ten percent a year, regardless of whether Couve members contribute or not. And it's there for you at retirement. So that's like thirteen hours a week ish on average people will retire from trader Joe's and do quite well in retirement. Yeah I'm hoping. Yeah. Right. There were two of the things that I wanted to mention that, that are kind of quirky things we do, but they're their extras which we have things like disaster relief programs. So when the hurricanes hit, we were able to help pre-members in need, you know, substantially, especially with Harvey. We also last year opened up the scholarship fund. So I have a great job. Okay. I know what you might be thinking. It's too good to be true, right? How can everybody possibly be that happy? And this is just another recruitment spiel. Right. But, you know, this is about business and it turns out taking care of our crew is good business. We feel appreciated and because of that we like what we do. We like to talk about it. So let's get back to it. Say you're a person out in the world who would really love to work for trainer tennis. And you know how do you do that? How do you go about coming to work for traderjoes? Save can walk into your neighborhood. Trader Joe's store. Do you can go to our website or just dot com and check out the career section? There's a lot of software out there that companies can use to automate sort who they should look at, and who they shouldn't look at where human business, so we use our our is to review. Everybody who's interested in working for trader Joe's actual people with actual eyeballs choline. And laurie. Thanks so much for coming and talking to us. Great to be here. Everyone should be selected work here. Hi, good to see you Tara. Welcome to Chicago. We wanted to speak with one of our favorite trader Joe's people who happens to call Chicago her home. My name is DeAnne, and I am the executive vice president of stores for the midwest, and I came aboard in ninety nine Dion. This episode is why is everyone so nice. Now, our customers they love their neighborhood store. They love the people that work in in them, and they love our product so much so that some of them want to work there or they want someone they know to work there, and I think a lot of our crew members start that way. And then you get to work in an environment where, you know, their contributions and their hard work is rewarded and appreciated in ways that they might not have experienced before. And so they're happy, what kinds of qualities stand out for you. When you're looking to hire people people that are kind who. Like and are interested in people. And like working as part of a team. Do stand out to me that sense of teamwork that sense of wanting to be better that sense of wanting to build up people, those are the things that you just can't teach. We like to say be yourself, be genuine and be nice. It's okay to be yourself. We want you to be yourself treat your customers, like you would a guest in your home, but treat your fellow crew members the same way. I'm in tasting products. That's where the magic happens when you talk to crew members of about their experiences, working for trader Joe's, what do you hear from those people how much they enjoy the people that they work with how much they appreciate being an environment where they feel valued? And the supported I visited stores in Houston, a few months after the floods in two thousand seventeen and I walked into a store and I got to the entry way and a crew member came up to me. They were almost in tears, not. From being upset, but they were just overwhelmed with how supported they felt by the people, they work with, and the things that we did for them as a company that enabled them to be able to focus on their home and getting her home taking care of, and then the, the physical work that the crew did for each other to help hit their homes back in order. I ended up being in that store for four hours hearing story after story after story like that, that makes me really emotional try being there. I would have been a puddle. Dionne one of the other things we wanted to do while we were here in Chicago is visit a trader Joe's and talk to some of those nice people and customers in the store. So we are going to the trader Joe's on Diversey that's a great choice. But I think that you'll come into our parking garage, go down into the store, the elevator doors aren't gonna open and you're going to say, wow, ours are amazing. They play great music the crew smile and they're very excited about this. They are home in west whenever we get attention. It's pretty big. Oh, wow. Okay, I'd say Dion was right. That story is pretty impressive right off the bat. Let's head over to the demo station and talk with Lauren and Joey, we have today are have already cheese with an by size. Everything cracker. And we also have this fabulous opportunity by fresh blueberries. From the US obey. Yeah, they're beautiful. How about that article that came out the other day about trader Joe's is the number one place to work, it just popped up on my news thing, there was a picture of the trader Joe's and it said that everybody's really happy. Well, how'd you feel about that? I said to myself, aren't I so lucky actually when I was being interviewed they asked, why do you wanna work here? And I was like, I did my research company looks awesome. We hear a lot about from customers about how all the crew members are so nice. I think that along with the happy employees comes happy customers, and we have really happy customers, even when it's crazy on a Sunday. They're really happy to be here. It's a fun time and the regulars are a pleasure, and to have seen them over the years and to get to know people and chat with them and know what goes on in their lives, and they're interested in our lives to. So you feel like you know, people by name. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Even even like the kids names. It's really cute. And some of these customers have. Yeah. Been very, very dear. Austin how long have you worked for trainer jets a little over five years? Right. What brought you here? I just wanted to job the I knew, I wouldn't have to take home with me. So I could. Right. And then it just kind of became home when you say it became home. Is it is it the work or is it the people or that it doesn't feel like work? It's just hanging out with friends for eight hours. And I talk about food for free. So that helps. Let's talk to Phil. He's the captain of the store, Phil we've spent the last hour or more just walking around your store crew members have been coming up to us wanting to talk to us. You didn't send any of that up. You didn't send anybody to us. They just kept searching us out to talk about their trader Joe's experience, you just do what we do every single day and one thing about our to what the love about it was that there, they take so much pride, and they have so much passion. You feel it in the energy in the store, and it's from the crew, and it's from the customer is in everybody's walking around with a smile on their face, and even you, you got a big smile on your face. Right now, no one can see that, but me but every day that I walked through the store, something new something different. And they're bringing me over there to kind of show me what the with a tweet change based upon, you know, sales trans or what a customer suggested with their team came up with as far as an idea as far as selling something new. It's from off about share and show their ideas. Don't tell them what to do. Support is not towing crew members what today, but in powering them to make those decisions congratulations much. I really appreciate that. The podcast through is here. They're really just going to try to listen, if you don't want them to hear your voice, just don't talk while they're in the room. Right now, we're headed into a session of trader Joe's university, or TJ you, as we call it where Nikita is leading a session. We have crew in this room from all over the country here to share their experiences and learn a little bit more about how we do things we talked a little bit about the unique things that you do in your store that might be different and special and really enhancing the customer experience in your store. I'd like you to write down on this slip of paper. What's something that makes our customer experience difference, and I'm gonna pass the bag around take what without looking at past the bag down? So we're looking for the things that make us different. We're going to go in this direction around the room one at a time. So what's on your paper? It says we're honest welcoming attentive and aren't just some robot. Behind a check stand. Okay. So what makes us different and this is just very simple and beautiful. What this person wrote thinking about the small things like bagging customer gets home and unloads the bag, and that is the last impression that they have of trader Joe's and I just thought that was so beautiful. And when I bag, I try to I try to make every bag of masterpiece. I want them to enjoy enjoy, you know, unloading all these treasures that they've taken the time to pick out at our store, and I just want every bag to be beautiful, and I try to bag it like I was bagging it for my mother, or my father, or my sister. Yeah. Mine's engagement now. What about engagement with our crew? What about gives what with each other in the store? Big point is we all know we've had a crew member walk in. That's in a very bad Fung. And then, you know, just hey, by your year, the students have some fun and says, offensive we are encouraged to be ourselves. Surprises me to this day. Everybody's done yet. Just keep being weird done. We're always friendly and with a smile, all about a relationship customer experience. Yeah. Yesterday we were talking about how often customer experience in some other companies. It's like how many scans permit it can you get like? That's what's incentivize. Just how fast you can run things through a register. We truly love her customers. You know the my name. Give customers the freedom to taste and sample items before buying them. We have the cleanest bathrooms in retail. All right. So that's. Thank you for reading that Walker festivals to the product, customer asks us or something is we don't point in that direction. We don't tell them which I'll it's on stop what we're doing, and we walked into the product I always. All right. That takes us to eleven one teen which is time for lunch. But what to came up with today and what you bring as individuals the experience in your stores. That makes that customer experience. Come alive for the customers store. Awesome. Your life back at twelve fifteen. So imagine we're back from lunch and you're with us. And I'm with John bass loan president of stores. And I'm thinking about questions that come up at TJ you at trader Joe's university, and oftentimes people will ask, well, what are you looking for? And how do you know things are working, and John, what do you say to that? We approached visits the same way a customer. Would we walk in and we really just look for a couple of things discipline, where I'd want to shop and is this a place that I didn't want to work on? This is a very important question for us. And this is probably even more important than the first one because really have to get into the essence of our the crew members engaged and, and why and are they being treated the way we hope they would be by store. Leadership is their teamwork taking place. Do you see this interaction, does it feel fun? And is the fun involved, the customers, and we're not talking about, like Turkey bowl. In the back room fund. We're talking about just the fun. That comes from interacting with customers on a daily basis talking with interesting people. Both your customers and your crew members. But having the customers would be part of what's happening in the store in the energy in the store, and that's kind of what we're looking for. We're going to do a separate episode on Turkey bowling later this season. I like it over two hundred average. So we've been spending some time talking about our crew about the people here at trader Joe's, we'd be remiss if we didn't spend just a couple minutes talking about fraud the thing, so dear to our hearts, and who better to do that than some of the crew, and why not start with the crew member who's been with us the longest. Okay. Hi, I'm Dave over trader Joe's fifty one years. The peanut butter pretzels is one of my favorites all time. Favorite a classic. Yes, is a class classic. What's your favorite trader Joe's product? I like sweet apple chicken, sausage, and the brownie Chris mocha ice cream. Sandwiches are really good stick green. Dragon sauce cannot live without whole cabinet at home. Full just you open up just screen dragging the bacon ranch dip. I guess that's a good one cold S. Yeah. I'm ready. The cashew fiesta dip, it's like a vegan, cheese products. And I put it on mix it with my broccoli and I put it on potatoes. So to make like cheesy things without the cheese part, the dairy part, and I absolutely love it. And it is my new staple. I love the soy Therese. Oh, actually I'm not vegetarian. But I could be fooled easily still holding out hope that the hot and sweet chilli jam will come back. Yeah. I still have a jar. But an expired in like February twenty seventeen. So right now, it's the sun buttercup like I bought, like an entire case of two weeks ago would have to say the sublime, you know the ice cream sandwiches. I usually have to on the way home. Okay. I think we're almost wrapped up and looking at my notes. I feel like there's everything covered, but John is there anything else you'd like to add now we're closing in on almost fifty thousand members and pretty soon we'll have five hundred stores and we couldn't do we do every single day in every one of those stores without them. So just like to thank thank the crew for what they do every day, and on our next episode we're going to be answering some of the questions that you have been sending us over the last few weeks. So that's going to be on our next episode coming up in June. And thank you for those ratings and reviews on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to hit the free subscribe, but it is free and worth every penny until next time. Thanks for listening. And thanks for listening.

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20: The Trader Joe's Episode: Our Favorite Things (Part 1)

Hungry Girl: Chew The Right Thing!

40:48 min | 2 years ago

20: The Trader Joe's Episode: Our Favorite Things (Part 1)

"Phone. It's a whole. I'm so hungry. Hello, there, hungry people. It's me. Lisa. Lillian also known as hungry girl. I'm here at hungry land with Mikey and Jamie. How are you guys? I'm good. How are you? I always say I'm really excited, but I don't think I've ever been so excited as this episode. She just every week, but this is an exciting emphasis. This is a really good episode and and we know because people are just obsessed with trader Joe's, I will give you time at home to just quietly clap or loudly classics. I hear I do too strangely, because trader Joe's just rocks. And if you don't have a trader Joe's, maybe this episode and next week's episode because this is a two parter will inspire you to demand a trader Joe's come to your neighborhood or just take a road trip and like put coolers in the back year. Exactly. And then pack things, it doesn't matter. I would say it's worth driving two hours to trade it. I would say that's the timeline. Well. Well, they have an online store. I don't know, but I do know this as a trader Joe's coming to Calabasas, which is my neighborhood, and now I won't have to drive like twelve minutes. I'll drive two minutes, which is super exciting. And we love trader Joe's. I mean at hungry girl, we've been writing about trader Joe's products for years. Whenever we put out a trader, Joe's fines, Email it, there's like a fifty plus percent open rate which for people out there. That's insane. 'cause Bonk songwriters, people love trader Joe's. And if you live trader Joe's, like we love trader Joe's. The best thing about trader Joe's is that you can find things there that are just so unique things that they make that that are trader Joe's branded that will help make your life. So simple. So I feel really good about the fact that we're just going to have a straight up discussion today about the best things that you can find in trader Joe's. And the good thing is next week we're doing more of the same. And we had it broken down by category and, and this week will you know, we don't need to get into that just yet, but I think you guys really appreciate it and you're gonna love even more if that's possible. Do we? I mean, dare I ask if there's any TJ's news is there is. All right. Wait, I want to interrupt this breaking choose of my own breaking shoes. Loud I'm gonna do is we have no choice judges. They're okay with it. All right, so bad a week ago, Mike, and I were on a plane to Boston and I was reading through the community, the Facebook community, and people are saying, we really wish there was just, you know, you always give us a, we give them a special Lincoln each episode. Oh, go to Hungary, dash dot com. Slash fast food said it's so hard to remember all these different you know pages. So what we did at fifty thousand feet is we put together one page with a guide to all of the episodes so they can find all of the products from all of the episodes. And that you are l. is ready. Get your pens and papers, hungry dash girl dot com. Slash food cast cool. Oh. I don't know. Jamie just hijacked our own pie for her own purposes, but he's over there. Is there. I so happy cropping. They're clapping again wherever they are. Dot com. Food cast. And when she says we did it, she did it while I watched field of dreams. That's true. And I have no idea. And if this was happening, I was not on the plane with them. All right. Do my breaking choose anything. All right. Well, if you haven't heard about the saga of Geoffrey Owens, he's the former Cosby show actor who was working at trader Joe's until someone noticed him, and then he became a social media phenomenon. Anyway, it looks like this has a, you know, he was. He was shamed on social media, which kind of sucked. But it has happy ending. The fifty seven year old actor will be guest starring on an episode of NCIS New Orleans. It's episode six, which will air in late October. But wait, he has another gig. He also got a reoccurring role in Tyler Perry own network show called the haves and the have nots. The actor says, he was beyond hurt and really humility humiliated by the unflattering photos of him working at the grocery store. But on the flip side, the support that flooded in was unbelievable and overwhelming. I've learned to never give up. I love that. That's a heartwarming story, but I have to say this. I don't. First of all, I love trader Joe's employees, and I think that there's some of the hardest working people. And I, I hear that it's a great place. To work. So it frustrates me that people would shame him for working there. I mean, he is a guy that just needs he needed to make a living and he wasn't an actor anymore. And I, I guess I don't understand why if you act on television and then if you're no longer on TV, that no matter what you do, people feel disappointed. Why is that a thing? It's? I mean, even if I know people who've become attorneys. Oh, I'm sorry. You no longer act like acting as the be all end all wait. When we talk about the fact that who is your someone, someone in your world used to be on friends, right? Yes. Our attorney or attorney attorney our hungry actor. That was like. It was. It was. He was on nine episode. I won't say, but we know that the hungry girl Christmas party and everyone was like, oh, that's so. And so from friends. And I said, no, no, that's the hungry Turney. And I've come to find that he really was on friends and then I felt stupid. That was funny. It makes you think especially living here in LA how many former TV stars are people that had small roles on TV shows are working at trader Joe's or other supermarkets? Yeah, totally. And I'm happy for Geoffrey Owens because I remember his character on the Cosby show, and he was really like a bowl, and if he's happy, I'm happy by two. I like teach. She's happy. I'm happy happy. All right. Well, that's all I have just one today. Oh, we'll good. And it was trader Joe Centric us. All right. Well, you know, starting to talk about trader Joe's, I really wanted to jump into some of the things that we know and love that can help build meals like things that you need to have around that can just make you feel like chef. This is the thing about. Her Joe's the stuff that I have that's either pre made or comes in a bag and sits in the freezer with just a few simple ingredients can make you feel like you're like this master chef, right? That's true. You feel that way to -solutely. We're gonna talk about some of these things that we just had Mike, and I have dinner this week. So yeah, same. I mean, I I'm constantly trader Joe's stuff for lunch, bringing it here, having it for dinner, and the thing that impresses me so much is there produce isle and all of the very clever options that they have here. So like for starters, like I love salads. I mean, I feel like I'm salad, you know, I, I go nuts for good salad, but I feel like some supermarkets and a lot of kits, and they have a lot of pre made salads and they're not that good. There's not like a lot of good options. So many good one. They have great options. My favorite is the southwest salad. It's like the greatest. But what I love about the tritter Joe salads. When you flip around the packages, it gives you the stats for the salad and. In the dressing. So you know, like a lot of the time, the salad itself has like two hundred and something calories in the dressing. We'll have one fifty or something to put it over the top. So you know, you can make the choice to either use part of it or use a different dressing. And that is so helped whoever's idea that was give that that team member raise because that was a great idea. And and like addition, I love the southwest alad, but they have a great Greek salad they have. What are some of the other salads that you've seen that that you like personally returnees? Oh, yeah, they do. Right. And and you can a lot of times the ingredients are separated so you can use whichever ones you want and you can leave off the ones that you don't. So I use the salad to help build a bigger and better salad. So like I like to pair a lot of stuff with the salad regarding vegetable, celery. They have a Mexican salad. That's really good. They have kale salad with white meat, chicken and broccoli Slaw like they're, they're very, very, and speaking of creativity, a lot of the stuff that they. They have in that produce aisle is just ridiculously creative, like they have something called the cruciferous crunch collection. Just fun to say to you, say that collection cruciferous crunch collection. Two, three cups only thirty five calories. So to me, I'm thinking I can eat that whole bag and be so full and just I dunno be super excited because I use it. It's kale, Brussels, sprouts, broccoli, green and red cabbage, so you can use it to build a salad or at your salad, or you can actually throw it in a Skillet and cook it up with any kind of protein, and it is so satisfying and all the hard work is done for you. It's true. And I feel like I, there was regular coleslaw mix than there was broccoli, coleslaw through really creative. This is like a new slumming because it's all shredded totally. I love those laws do eat. Those laws might no, but I will. But I also just thought about because sometimes I'll put some veggies on my pizza, like my a pizza that would go on a pizza. Not not. You know, you have to put it in towards the last couple minutes of the bacon pizza totally will quickly to because it's shredded. It's not like big hunks. Yeah, it's, it's just great and very, very creative. But also another creative product, which I just saw a few weeks ago for the first time they have organic smoothie, juicing and salad greens blend in a bag. Genius genius because I know so many people who are like, I don't really know how to make a green smoothie. I never know exactly what to pick and what to use and how much do us and this bag. The whole bag has thirty calories. So you just throw that bag at spinach. Couple of kinds of kale and beet greens and the whole bag only has thirty calories. There's no way I would ever by all those things individually and put them in a smoothie. So the fact that they put that all in one bag. It's so helpful very, but it's it's clever the way they do that. And I love the marketing and the best part is that it's inexpensive. So you would think for all that extra work that it would cost so much more. But I think people really love trader Joe's because everything is so affordable and the thing that you love Jamie, the healthy eight chopped veggie Mex yes. Can I tell you? I discovered it lease. I was visiting a friend and I always liked to go to the grocery store and get a few things to stock of my own. So not eating all. Their food, and I grabbed that and it was perfect because it's like go anywhere veggies. You can put it in your only put it in a salad kind of the same thing, super versatile. And it saves you so much time because what's chopped in their broccoli, carrots, green, cabbage, red cabbage, hickama green Bill pepper radish and celery, and it's all like chop chop. It's like if you like chops, Allen e little peaceful of this lovechild salad. See, I can't cutting my own salad. Is that weird? No, I. Yes, make sure that nobody at home thinks they're just regular scissors because that happens with me. I use regular scissors. Oh, I have special salads. And I don't use them. I use good old fashioned, regular scissors. I. To cut their my dedicated. I have a separate t shirt cutting this is my salad scissor nooses. Yeah, that's true. I don't. I always hate when like I see somebody at home using like my box, cutting knife to date or I shouldn't out my husband like that need a label maker. I know we just labeled that knife yesterday. It says, box opening knife now. Hopefully that won't happen again. Okay. The next item that I have to give shout out to it's the butternut zigzags such cute name. It's a cute name. And I mean, I like to think that we helped put butternut squash on the map. Yes, we've been in our world for a long time probably in around two thousand five or two thousand six or maybe even before your crinkle cutting before I forget even the, the crinkle just using butternut squash to make fries was like back then so innovative and it became one of our most popular recipes. And I always used to say, use crinkle cutter, use a crinkle cutter, and I know that that inspired this particular brand zigzags go. I feel very. I feel very proud of that, but they're great because sputter nut squashes, half the calories of sweet potato, and you can turn it into a frie- easily. Just bake it in the oven at a high temperature. You can flip them after about twenty minutes and then cook for another fifteen minutes. If you put salt on them, the help gets crispy. And if you bought them for you, bake them that also keeps them crispy, but like my favorite. So that was a fun little trip down the produce aisle? Yeah, I mean, but I actually, I'm not done with things that are proceed, but that are in the freezer. So in addition, so the the stuff in the prototype was great, but that's the stuff that you have to use within a few days. Right. Right now I am famous for buying things and then having them sit there because I don't have time or I'm going out and they go bad. So I really love the stuff that you can keep in the freezer. I mean, you're with me on that. Yeah, always have a well-stocked freezer. And why is that? Because you could just open the freezer at any time and say, I have this and I have this and I can put it together. So some of the stuff that's in the freezer. That I really wanted to single out frozen artichoke hearts. I had never seen these before. I thought they only came cans. Okay. And when you get them canned, here's the thing. I love an artichoke. I always joke about artichokes joke joke that it's a food that's a project like it takes awhile to eat them. So I ordered them at restaurants, and that's when you have to scrape the artichoke off the leaves. And that's a fun activity for me. So at some point I realized I was a fan of artichoke hearts and artichoke bottoms, and I bought the canned versions and they're just safer. Yeah, they're a little like acidic tasting. They just, hey sour. They don't taste the same as when you steam artichoke. So I was super excited to see the frozen bag of artichokes and guess what? There is no sour taste to these at all. It doesn't change her completely and it's twenty five calories a servant on my God. So the whole bag is one hundred calories and artichokes are great. You can use them in dishes item alone. I cook them in dishes. I'll throw Skillet with, you know, lean protein. And other veggies, Sal loss. We had a debate awhile back when we ran a recipe for artichoke we're, you said you scrape it on the bottom of your teeth. I scrape it on the top of my teeth right to, yeah, I scraped on. But you were like, baffled that I scraped it on the top of my teeth and you're like, yeah, that's. I don't know what. No, I don't know what to do. I think it depends on how your mouth is, but it would join it. But to me, it doesn't. It wouldn't fit would feel I do top teeth but see sense to do bottom because your taste buds on your tongue, close to your bones. Maybe that's why it's so automatic for me. Jamie Waverly doesn't like tasting her food. Obviously, let's. We should wait. If you guys ever eat artichokes to use, do you scrape the artichoke off with your top or your bottom teeth? We want. They'll just say, yes. Topper bottom, but then Email us at suggested hungry dash girl dot com. Okay. Next veggies that I am obsessed with that you can find in the freezer out are the roasted red bell pepper and onions, actually their fire roasted Bill peppers, red and other colors. I can't remember. I think there's several colors their roasted so they taste amazing. So like this is again a very trader Joe's thing. It's not just cut bell peppers. They're roasted peppers, so they have that amazing delicious. Roasted flavor game changing. I by sting regular plain veggies for the freezer all the time because they're healthy, but they got a little boring tasting unless you're gonna really judge them up and these need notion. Yeah, because their fire roasted this like you. Yes, I arose. Did thirty calories a Cup so that thumbs up. And then another roasted veggie. The have an, I'm obsessed with corn. So the fact that they have a bag of roasted corn is just like, it just makes me so happy. I feel like they love us clearly they, they didn't love us. They should love. Everyone's always like how much does trader Joe's pay you? Let me be clear. They have never sponsored anything we do. We've never given us guys you to. We just like fan girl out food or half off zero. Nothing. They don't know who we are. I walk around completely unnoticed at my traitor, so sad, but the roasted corn we actually have some here. That's where we're gonna try it because I know you guys said that you like when we taste things and explain what they taste like, honestly, this is the only reason why do the podcast is to taste food. I believe it don't killing. No, I believe it Mike. Well, the roasted corn. There's about five servings in this bag, and it has a hundred and ten calories per serving. Let's basically the same as regular corn. Yeah, really. I think they just registered har- it. It is. It's useful. Blackens right people will be so impressed with you. If you serve this all here. Now you go Mike. The ingredients are corn. There's no oil. That's it. Nothing. It's just charred and it looks chart. So it's like you're going to get it and put it on your salad or whatever people are going to be impressed that you've charged your corn. See. So pretty. It's we. And it tastes like it just came off the grill grow. Does even butter? No, nothing. This is amazing. It's funny, I grow corn all the time, and it's like, this is so easy. Roasted is the new corn. I've never seen during a taste test. I mean, both Lisa and Mike are like going back for shoveling. We're trying to eat in front of to be honest. I've never roasted corn at home. I have done. Okay. So the trick we do is dry Skillet. You put the corn, even frozen corn, dry Skillet, high heat, but then it get, it gets black. But honestly, it's still not as good as this. This is great. Thumbs up on that. Big, thumbs up. And then the final item by the way that I wanna talk about, I know of talked about this in the past and it's not it has nothing really to do with produce in any real way. But the colleague lower does yes. But yes, no, because it's new Okey and don't like at least give me that because like I eat all kinds of rice, veggies and spy relies veggies. And I put this in a different category is this truly tastes like potato pasta. It tastes like a real lower nucleotide. It's just like the texture and it's like soft, but it's kind gummy but in a good way. Yeah. I mean, you have to cook it in Skillet even though it says you can make the microwave. Save don't do it, but it's one hundred and forty calories serving. So the whole bag has three hundred thirty calories and you can do so much with it. And I, I cook it to definite Skillet and my favorite thing to do with it is you know, I love the marinara thing, but I often throw in a wedge of laughing how or some light cream tea. Carlito it's too good. Just trust me. I have like six bags, getting chills, just thinking about it. So that's a must have Mielke. Yes. Some people say yucky, yucky Neo, but I don't. I'm not a talion so I could though yoki I send yoki. What's next. Nixed up. So let's hope protein. So we, we started with produce and a lot of things that you can use to build your meal. But at the end of the day, like I like protein, probably in the same way. You like lettuce and drooling. Like I'm a protein fiend if you told me I could do nothing, but he protein all day and I thought I could live like that. I would. So anytime I find protein that makes my life easier that I don't really have to spend a whole lot of time cooking. It is exciting. So trader Joe's is packed with things like that. And I wanted to single out a couple of things that are great for breakfast or even snacking. And one is their bag of hard cooked eggs. So smart. Yeah, they're, they're peeled and hard cooked. Yeah, you could not get any more convenient. I mean, I eat are boiled eggs practically every day. I think you do. I do. And like I'm used to people. My mom used to do this, but I know Jamie, I'm going out you when you boil your eggs. Sometimes you're so busy working, you forget and they hit the ceiling explodes, doesn't feel bad for you. Luck. It's good luck when hard coaching hardboiled. That's the same thing. Okay, wasn't sure pretty much so you can just get a bag of these eggs. Each is only sixty calories because they're pretty small egg. It's just an and they're ready made for you and all the hard work is done. You don't have to worry about peeling. You're off the ceiling like j. does unless you juggle with them, get stuck like. Happen. When I peel my eggs, I ended up doing like half of the half of the egg. Yeah, it's horrible. We're never going to let you p leagues. I don't want ever want and another standout because they have great smoked salmon, but I don't know. They have a low sodium smoked salmon, which is great if you're counting your salt, but they have pastrami style smoked Atlantic salmon that is out of this world. Whose idea was this? Like? It's the best idea. What else could we draw me? I well, they have Turkey, pastrami. I don't know if they have that at trader Joe's, but if trauma chicken, I don't know, but the smoked salmon, it has that perfect flavor. It tastes like you're getting it at the best restaurant or Delhi, and it's unique. I've never seen that before that seasoning. Oh, so good. Three slices one hundred twenty calories, Turkey, pastrami there before that trader Joe's good. Speaking of Turkey, pastrami, I love poultry poultry is probably my go-to protein more than anything. I love seafood too. I love beef, but poultry is the most consistent Lee eaten thing in my world. I'm just really glad you've never be. A friend at a chicken because you have a habit of anytime you meet an animal, you wanna stop eating it. She's right. If I ever meet a chicken, we all are met a pig or do you not eat pork for awhile? Because I met a pig, but then the I, I don't wanna go into it, but let's move onto the chicken. If I become friends with the chicken is a good chance. I'm gonna buy it overall. It's gonna come office and be my friend and I won't ever eat chicken again. But until that happens each almost every day and some of my favorite chicken comes from trader Joe's. The one thing I want I want to single out. I the grilled chicken fajitas which we actually have. Yes, we did so good. We actually night knowing we're gonna do this in this episode had them last weekend and they were so good. So tell people what this is. First of all, the smell is incredible. This the best restaurant seasoned chicken. You could find. So it's premade all white meat, beautifully sliced chicken breast. With a lot of different veggies. There's onions and peppers, all the Bahiti veggies that you could ever dream of seeing in your fajita plate with Ben tastic seasoning. It's so good season. There's like a hint of citrus, tiny bit of lime. And then all of the seasonings you can just taste everyone of them. It tastes so fresh. And these are found in the refrigerator section, if you have not tried these, please, please, please remember to go to trader Joe's and get them. A third of the package has two hundred and ten calories, and it's so much veggies. It's everything I love about the heat is and nothing. I don't like it's all the healthy stuff. I agree. Huns of veggies, tons of chicken, tons of flavor, but no cheese or sour cream maturity is it's like the the meat and potatoes, the chicken and the veggies. But you. Could I got some tragedy Titas and made you made you know regular, but Jamie put him on her salad. I just had that a little while ago. I put it on my salad. Like that's how I usually these. We can put them in lettuce cups, so you make little lettuce fajitas, and that is a great thing to and that package has three servings. And I think it's a realistic, three servings. Normally. I'm like, that's one serving, I guess you could eat into, but usually I do get three servings out of that. So that impresses me as well. We got to, and there was a little leftover and then after we ate, we both looked at it and just took the package back to the couch and Seth there and finished, and then another amazing precooked poultry find that you find in refrigerated section the Italian style, Turkey Meatloaf. I'm like addicted to this. I don't know. Mike is the one that pointed this out to me that he's eaten this Meatloaf. It's so good I had on the package. I've never seen pre made Turkey Meatloaf that had like really impressive nutritional info, two hundred. Fifty calories for gun. Right? So the Meatloaf has four servings and when you cut it into quarters, that is a really, really, really impressive thing. If you made sandwiches out of it, I would say you might get five servings or maybe six didn't even think about making. Wow, it's good cold. I had a cold changed my world. I'm going to make a sandwich. Good. Don't wait. Wait till we're done with the. Don't just get. Okay. Now I wanna talk about something that literally rocked my world. When I discovered a few weeks ago, it's the natural Asian ground chicken. Now, here's something that you just don't really find in supermarkets ground chicken raw. That's already seasoned and ready just to go into the Skillet just to be cooked to made into patties used, however, you want to use it. It's really int- and I think we have this here for tasting to also by the way usually when I see ground check and I think this is changing, but it used to be the you think it's healthy think it's lean and it's like it's like not just pure chicken breast. It's like a little heavier. This is Leanne. Yeah, this is pretty lean. But I know I'm I'm still skeptical about a lot of the ground poetry, but this you can tell yet this is chicken breast because it's not. You can tell it's not dark. You can tell that it's just chicken breast, but the thing that impresses me the most about this is the flavor it. Let's try this right now. I'm excited for this when earned was cooking up. She was like my, you gotta smell it. First of all, Erin, sounds. You taste the ginger, you taste the soy, it's lightly sweetened. Flavor burst think about all the things you can do. I would love to make lettuce cups out of this incredible burgers, life-changing Asian tacos. This is going on my salad. Change. Oh my God. Please. Again, natural Asian ground chicken cooks in about five to seven minutes. You can do so many things with it for houses have only one hundred forty calories. This is the best thing I've tried all day. Yeah, this is it's special. This is, and this is why love trader Joe's because you're not gonna find this at your local market. This is something that's so unique. Again, you feel like a chef serve this, your family. They see you taking raw chicken making building something out of it, and then you didn't even have season it. It's done. You know what I love about this episode is I can take some of the stuff that we talked about from the produce aisle or the freezer Staples, and put them with these proteins. Like it's so easy to gradients. You've meal mixing and matching. It's like grandma's remember animals, you know, the clothing that you just mix and match and be able to wear everything together. You can grant them allies, everything from trader Joe's and make the best meals imaginable. And then we also have a, we have a special staff pick that we're gonna roll in right now. Right? Let's hear it. Let's hear what our staffer has to say about one of her favourite poultry from traderjoes. Hi, I'm Katie. I love the trader Joe's reduce guilt chicken salad. The perfect swap for the original chicken salad using Greek yogurt instead of mayo. So you get a protein kick for a great lunch. Katie. Thanks for the tip. Katie works in our kitchen, and she does food styling and food photography, and she has great tasting food and only has one hundred calories for half Cup. Yeah, that's a great pick. I like that a lot. I love that. They make it with yogurt to the care. No one is asleep at the wheel. There. There is our propped open with toothpicks anyone into their test kitchen or wherever they their fact. I don't know where it is what's in Monrovia, but has anyone ever been in like, I don't know. I mean, and they don't make a lot of stuff there. I think that they have like third party to food creators. Mark summers go in there and do like an unwrapped. All right. Well, more things from the freezer that are protein Centric because I do love. Freezer proteins, because you again, you can just a frost them and pull them out of the freezer. The seafood blend says he's an old favorite of mine. It's just a bag of all kinds of seafood. There's calamari. There's scallops and shrimp, and they're not like like the base. The little gun, the bay shrimp, so they're perfect to me to make Japan. Oh, like I love making Pino at home, but I'm lazy. So I would always by my pre cooked shellfish. In fact, my husband would joke that when we made the Japan, no, it was like a billion dollars to make us. We'd go and buy like all this pre cook, fancy shellfish shrimp and we would get the crab legs and the lobster Mishra it is and it's really expensive. He'd be billionaires Japan. Laugh about an only have it like once in a blue moon, but this this product is really inexpensive at it's perfect. So if you just pair this with your favorite tomato soup done, this was the first meal Jamie and I made together with that seafood blend. That's Keanu with the trader Joe's? Yeah, we, we went to bed bath beyond and bought a steamer, and then we went to Joe's and bought the seafood blend, steamed it. And that was the last time we ever used the steamer. But that was our first meal that we made together. We still have that steamer, but it's definitely not been used since. Phase. That's so cute. Two-thirds of Cup have eighty calories. Nothing. It's just pure protein. Yep, and it's delicious. So typically I don't usually even like call Amari so it's not my number one, but it's really good in in this. Enjoy it. But if you like to Pino and you're even too lazy to pair that seafood blend with a can of soup, they actually have a Pino in a bag and trader to Pino is my go-to order at a lot of restaurants. So the fact that they have it ready made and not a fortune as amazing. Exactly same same piano because it's always a good option. It always you feel like you're being really decadent and everything takes a while to eat and you're like, trying to get all the stuff out of the shells and you just it's a project sometimes they'll Shib. Yeah, I don't wear the bibs. I mean, sometimes if it's really messy, I hate the boobs. I'd rather get my shirt dirty. I don't mind the bid, but I don't want someone to put the ball on me. Sometimes they'll try and do that. And it's like, no, sir. I am an adult. I will put my own bib on. I don't like the bibs put on by myself and put on by the waiter anything. I just but I get it. I get why people wear them. I just think people look really silly when they're wearing bibs and restaurants. Absolutely. Anyway, Schettino has it's two servings and it's two hundred and ten calories of serving. Sometimes I'll eat the whole bag, but more often, I will add a little more tomato soup to it because it's just it's a light on the broth. Yeah, and so I like my Pino very broth because it fills me up. So I'll add a little bit more tomato soup to that, but it is definitely a home run. I feel like if you wanted to make a meal for somebody and impress them, you could probably put that in the microwave or put that on the stove and serve it up. Yeah. Say that you were just slaving over a fish market and your stove day, they'll never know. So your freezer. Really isn't complete without a burger Patty option. It's true. It's just great to have them there. You can keep them there for a while. It's easy to throw them on a grill or on a Skillet or sometimes they even work in the microwave, although I don't love to make them in the microwave. So guess what? We have another h. g. staffer here with their burger pick. Hi, I'm Dana and I love trader Joe's Turkey burgers because they are the greatest Turkey burgers. I have ever had frozen Turkey burgers, their incredible. They have this Rosemary extract in them, and it's absolutely out of this world game changer. Danas quite the foodie. So that's for her to really give it such high high props is is a good thing. Ever in the world and those are a hundred and eighty calories. So that's pretty reasonable. That as a snack. Weird. I would just put that on a plate with like a little bit of catch-up. And don't you're asking the protein. My sacks are only pure seeking validation, clearly validated done. Thank you. All right. So we have given people tons of ideas for meals that they could put together if you are either lazy or you feel like you're not confident in the kitchen, all of those things are game changers and life changers for you. However, if you just want to grab something and have your meal already done for you where everything has been completely cooked and ready for you to there are great meals that you can find it trader Joe's. I loved going to the ones in the fridge more than the freezer, but there are great freezer fines to. So one of the things that we've discovered recently was the smoke salmon, pokey bowl. I love poke it so unique to do smoked salmon pokey. Yeah. I mean, I love regular seven Gaelic tuna pokey. A lot of people are first of all people say, polka, what do you call it? I've never thought about it. Polka pokey pokey? Yeah, I pokey though. Right? Because it has a little, I mean, maybe in Hawaii, but I'm not the one that's got. That's just not me. People know what pokey is hokey is like, right. It's like it's it started in Hawaii and it's usually or it's always fish based. And it's like fish that's been marinated with a lot of different kinds of veggies in you'll lot of times it served over rice or it served over lettuce sometimes. Now they're putting it in burrito in like Marito form, but there's pokey places all over there just popping up everywhere over New York, and you can build your own bowl. But a lot of times there's things like at Amami in the bowl or seaweed salad in the bowl, veggies, sometimes mango chunks. What else have you seen in pokey? They'll put like ginger in. I've seen it with Brown rice. I like my go-to is the seed salad. Yeah, I like I like that as a base, but this is a great product. One bowl has only two hundred and forty calories, so it's a great lunch. It's also a good snack or it's a meal could be a meal or just a a snack, a hefty snack, depending on what you're what you're hungry for and what you pair it with. Another thing that I love in the refrigerated section, the Turkey stuffed peppers. Oh my God, SOGA. Gosh, two hundred calories that may be the best two hundred dollars you could have and I love that these things are in the low two hundreds because that's like the same calories as a bar. Yeah, really? Why have a bar when you have a Turkey stuffed pepper and pair that with a giant salad and then you're eating maybe three hundred calories for like the most incredible meal imagine and you don't have to do anything so easy. Yeah, and it's mostly it has the sauce with the pepper is almost a little bit sweet. It's just incredible. I n I don't know. You could definitely fool the family with these. Are we going out to dinner at trader Joe's. And in the end tailgating in the parking lot, that's exactly what we should be doing. Okay. So those are the ones that are in the fridge section, but let's say you want freezer meals. And again, freezer meals used to be my go-to thing more than they are now, but there are a lot of really great Italian meals a trader Joe's and we actually sampled all of them last week and their incredible. So like the things that I tried that I loved the stuff shells a whole container has two hundred and seventy calories. While in the big ZD has three hundred twenty calories, which is pretty great, and that's labeled reduced guilt. I love that. It's not Gilfry I know just a little guilt, but not a lot. I feel like you don't have to feel any guilt. The stuff shells also reduced guilt. But the third fine that I love. It's not labeled guilt free or reduced guilt at all. It's just their eggplant parm and I love it. Maybe it's not reduced guilt because there's two servings in the box and try not to eat the whole box. But even if you did, it's really not terrible because it's two hundred thirty calories a serving. So if you ate the whole box, it's four sixty. It's still way lower than you go out to dinner and they say, are entrees are under six hundred calories? Yep. So it's not terrible. It tastes so good. Again, I feel like you got a date. Put that on a plate made them some eggplant. Parm. Don't tell your secrets, your husband, Jamie? Okay. And then the final frozen meal, they have a rice cauliflower bowl, which is so creative. We have that here. We have the box. It's really hefty box because I really wanna talk about this. It is a lot of food. I mean, God says one, it's to this two and a half servings now -tainer, but that's okay because it's like, I don't know that I would eat that whole thing. Because, but the whole thing is to eighty, but you can either. Use it as a side dish or you can eat it as your meal. And this is, is this cauliflower rice? Yes, it has. It has to Heaney marinated chick peas, sweet potatoes baked tofu and roasted onions. So it's v. Mel, so gone vegan. I was expecting that Mediterranean taste. That's great. Love it perfectly seasoned again. It tastes so fresh case like. Very different and something you will not find anywhere else. So like many of the things that trader Joe's and it says cook from frozen right on the ball. Okay. Well, that was delicious. So delicious. And this episode was so packed. It's like I could talk forever and luckily were doing more next week because we're out of time. What are we doing next week? This time was like meals yet this this time was meals. Next time we're going to focus more on sweets and desserts and snacks, hefty snacks, and condiments, and salad dressings, and dips God and just all the other fun stuff. You find a trader Joe's and pet treats. I mean, you're going to be a law review. There might be. If I wanna leave today telling people that have to buy one or two things, I'm going to go with the chicken fajitas and also the Asian ground chicken. Those are my two picks. What about you guys? Good picks the is the first time I tried the Asian chicken, so I'm like super jazzed about that. But I also love the roasted frozen veggies just because it's such a smart healthy stable and actually just tastes fantastic. Just microwave and have delicious vegetables. I'm gonna add the artichokes to my list. I'm sorry. Those are amazing. The Asian ground chicken and the chicken pitas are slam dunks like those are going to be Staples in our shopping list Fisher. So I have something fun to say. We decided that we're going to give away a twenty five dollar trader Joe's gift card. We're gonna go out on a limb and do that. 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Episode 12: Frozen. The Foods

Inside Trader Joe's

20:46 min | 1 year ago

Episode 12: Frozen. The Foods

"All right. Let's see one minutes ought to do it. And defrost. Here's what we're thawing. For this episode of inside trader Joe's. Hey, we're recording for the inside. Trader Joe's podcasts. Do you have a minute to talk to us about frozen that your mouth was full? What is it about cauliflower the cauliflower? No key honestly coming by surprise Skillet. 'cause I know you know, you can't do anything without Skillet. So we from the trader Joe's mothership in Monrovia, California. Let's go inside. Trader joe's. I'm Tara Miller. The director of words and phrases and clauses. And I'm still mad Sloan the marketing product guy this episode is entitled frozen the foods Burr, but there will be no singing snowman or princesses of Erin Dale location. There yet we haven't found a place with enough parking. No, this frozen is about another place. A very popular section at your neighborhood. Trader Joe's we'll do a little testing in our test kitchen. That's what it's for right to find out the best way to prepare one of your favorite. Trader Joe's frozen foods. Our annual customer choice awards have been announced. So we'll also have our customers taste tests. Some of the winners will preview some new products coming soon to a store near you. And I love to know about some frozen food ideas that are still just that. And the idea stage in our business the word fresh is an important one. We all want food that's fresh, right? But sometimes food can be fresher. When it's frozen. Freezing is stopping time. So you can take a really perfectly ripe mango cut it and freeze it, and it doesn't ripen anymore, and it doesn't become overripe. But it doesn't begin to breakdown and become yucky. It's stopped in time. I've never heard it said exactly that way said those words, I think that whole concept of stopping time that you you find that piece of fruit when it is at its best. And then you keep it at its best until you're ready to eat it. It's ready when it's perfect. It's ready when it's ready to be frozen and the clock is stopped and you can start the clock when you wanted to. And I think this is a conversation. We can have with calf. Hi, I'm Katherine I've been working at trader Joe's for eight years. I'm currently product developer for frozen, grocery deli cereal, and Barron spirits. Wow. Okay. You're busy. Yes. All food groups. As much as had left to talk about beer and spirits. Actually. Let's talk about frozen. I feel we have so many mazing products in our stores, but the frozen I'll when you walk down. All the customers are engaged. There's a really lot of exciting items there. Yeah. There are it's my favorite place to shop in the store. Just because I see things I'm like, oh, I wanna have that today. Oh, I want to have that today. I end up with these bags full of frozen things that I get home. And I it's like making a puzzle putting a three D puzzle together. How many things how many products do we do? We normally have in that category. In that part of the store believe it or not we have about three hundred and fifty items that were able to fit in our freezer section. Wow. This it's not the same three hundred something products. All the time though. No. We definitely we have seasonal items that come in for the holidays. We probably add about another forty skews. And for those of you keeping score at home skews S K, you stock keeping units. Good classic. Grocery jargon, eleven what it equals is a product Mandarin orange chicken is a skew right chocolate. Lava cakes are askew. That's they're not out of place. I am askew at this moment with frozen. There's definitely a lot of room for innovation. Do you have any examples of that like things that are really sort of on trend or a head of the curve all things cauliflower? We're really the first store to have rice. Call fire. You can now find other retailers, but we're now pushing that further and now we're doing a rice call resulted will be out for the holiday season. What gifts mean? I like cauliflowers much as the next guy. What is it about cauliflower? Is it that is it what it isn't. It's not carbohydrates or is it because of the flavor or is it both will buy is this so compelling, it's really proven to be the perfect substitute for high carb foods. So if you are watching your calories, you're watching your carbohydrates, you can use rice qualifiers obeys instead of rice at works. Perfect for pizza crust, and even mashed potatoes, the cauliflower gnocchi honestly caught me by surprise. So a little later on. We're going to go into the kitchen with Ross. Okay. He's going to go over some cooking instructions for us effect for the cauliflower gnocchi. Yeah. That'll be fun and taste. I just imagined like somewhere there's in the heartland the cauliflower farmers looking at his children. These like, I told you we could make all of a sudden cauliflower is this really incredible thing. And we don't have enough. I'm talking to you kala flower growers, grow more cauliflower, we need it. And it's true. In a lot of our caller fires coming from Italy. Where obviously they're very proud of their pasta in their rice. And we're trying to place more orders for qualified, and they're wondering what are we doing with this like what is happening in the United States right now. So why do we go to Italy for that stuff? They're the one country that's been able to produce the volume that we'd needed at the rate costs and were able to get a lot of organic cauliflower. That's the big difference. Right, right. To Italy is on my list are sister office in Boston. There's a very famous restaurant there that has a battered cauliflower. So again, Email from our VP of merchandising, which is my boss. She sends a phone says I have to try this dish two weeks later translate that Catherine get to work on the asked you listen to lead or get another Email about the temperature qualifier. This is coming from our VP of innovation. Another two weeks. Also get from the VP of merchandising in Boston. I'm convinced they all went to lunch together that day, but for dramatic effect. They just space things out a little bit VP's. I reached out to a supplier in southern California. They actually flew out to the east coast to go this restaurant. Enjoy the dish there they brought back probably ten samples or so to share with their staff wants to sit next to that guy on the it was a labor of love for about six months. Just really trying to perfect the sauce had the right amount of savory notes and sweetness and it's been in our stores now for about four years, and it's really great item. So just so everyone's clear that's the product that became known as cone, pow cauliflower. Okay. Catharine you've developed a lot of products that have wound up in our freezers do the favorite. So every year trader Joe's, we have a holiday party. There's unique trader do songs, and of course, because we're food company. We have plenty of food to enjoy afterwards. So one of my colleagues, they took two Streep waffles put vanilla ice cream inside and made an ice cream sandwich. I watched him do this. I absolutely an awesome idea. So I reached out the next day to one of our frozen novelties suppliers. Okay. That triggered a grocery industry. Jargon alert for me frozen. Novelties suppliers of frozen. Novelty is just another way to talk about hand held ice cream strangely enough. It wasn't until about the nineteen twenties. That people started making pre packaged ice cream bars ice cream sandwiches, ice cream cones. And that is a frozen novelty, and that is what a frozen novelties supplier. Does they created a custom many Stroup off also it's bite size. And we offer that last holiday season. We'll have at this holiday season as well. Let's our mini Stroup awful ice cream sandwiches. Those were big hit this year. So how long do things last in the freezer, Mr. items and frizz, and they do have about a two year shelf life, you can still consume it after two years, but the quality of ingredients they'll be some furs and build up on the vegetables inside that sort of thing. So that actually leads me to think about one of the other things in frozen food that has changed. Dramatically certainly in my lifetime. Because I remember when you would buy maybe frozen peas or frozen corn or something like that. And you would really just be getting like a big block of frozen peas or frozen corn? And now it's not like that everything is separate, and you can sort of shake things out of a bag or a package and save the rest for another time. How how does that happen one? That's interesting probably was in the early to mid sixties when grocery jargon alert when I q f comes into play individually quick frozen each word matters rather than a block of frozen peas, you have peas spread out either on a plate or a conveyor belt, and each P is frozen very quickly within a matter of minutes and that fast freezing time period actually, keeps ice crystals smaller. So the faster something is frozen the smaller the ice crystals. Remember water expands? When it freezes water inside cells expands and condemn it. Those cells. So if you freeze it quickly, the cell structure remains intact, and you actually get a better texture, and that kind of process is just really changed not only the quality, but the usefulness of stuff so you can shake out that bag of peace. If you just want a little bit. You don't file a whole block and waste half of it. And there are different IQ f- processes for different things. A strawberry is handled differently. From P is different from frozen croissant or macaroni or a pizza and each producer has to figure out their timing in their process to best serve that specific food stuff that they're working on. It's it's a real scientific undertaking, Catherine. I know that you have been very busy working on products that are due to hit the stores sometime in twenty nineteen. Do you have some that you're especially looking forward to and can you tell us a little about them? First off is an egg for Todd up twenty five grams of protein and under three hundred calories. And takes two minutes in the microwave. So if you're in a rush in the morning, it's the perfect breakfast. The next items it's actually too so high protein low calorie ice creams have been trending. We haven't brought them in our storage yet all the ones on the market. They have sugar alcohols, which is something we avoid and our private label brands. So we worked with a spire took some time to get it. Right. But it's a pint of ice cream. It's a little over three hundred calories. If you eat the whole pint yet, you're getting twenty grams of protein with the cookies and cream the chocolate peanut butter ice cream. There's twenty three grams of protein that's an interesting for me somewhat strange trend but the idea of like protein loading through ice. We sell a lot of fish. Can we saw a lot of fish in the freezer, right? When we sort of really got into the frozen, salmon business, I was told and was able to verify that at that time. We were the only grocery retailer in the US that was selling what's called once frozen wild Alaskan. Salmon is that still the case I can't speak for other retailers. But for trader Joe's, they catch the fish. They phrased the fish that's at there's no freezing mass slacking off into portions and rephrasing which you can find out swear. And I'm fascinated by that that it's I mean when you freeze and then defrost and then freeze, and then defrost again, I imagine that that's probably not great for the integrity of the fish. It doesn't necessarily change the flavor. It absolutely changes the texture, and you know, ice is watered obviously frozen and. It expands in that process. And that stretches all the cells out, and when you do that repeatedly what you can wind up with a really mushy piece of fish. I just had some two labile last night out of the freezer case and rate would you do with it was basically making like, fish and chips styles stuff. So you do a flower you season the flower. However, you like to season it I liked smoked paprika or onion salt, maybe some garlic powder coat the fish in the flower, then maybe do a little egg dredge I like a fifty fifty mix of panko breadcrumbs and traditional Italian style. Breadcrumbs makes those up little bit herbs and stuff and the red problems. And then you fry it in oil a neutral oil Alan grapeseed oil as you can get it super super hot. And it doesn't set the house on fire usually some. I like the usually on their men usually. Good work. We're still standing. Every year, we invite trader Joe's customers to vote for their favourite products in our customer choice awards. This year's winners were announced and several frozen products were named as favorites. So Matt ni- or in the neighborhood. Trader Joe's in Glendale, California. Letting our customers have taste of a couple of them. Trader Joe's spent a COPA filled with spinach Ricarda and fettuccine in the appetizer category. And the trader Joe's a dozen macaroni, very is a favorite dessert crew member Mickey is working the demonstation. Now, we want to see these customer choice awards actually mean anything here in Glendale. So let's see what happens fill mega tell tell us. What you're what you're serving customers here today? I am serving our spinach fenical Bitta with Ricardo cheese and Fedor and this community loves spun ical beta, I don't blame them the serving size is perfect, and you can just pop the tray into the into the oven or the toaster oven. It comes in its own trait. Try it, please. Birther cookie time. Who is the stash eels labor one my daughter love this and all the colors that are used in those macaroni are all from from naturally derives sources. So there's no like red dye number four, right? That stuff in exactly pretty cool Lega here this customer, she's going to taste that frozen span of COPA. Let's see what her reaction is. It's very crunchy. I think it's really good. It's a lot of cheese. Giant microphone scare you away. Now, it's actually not alive. Hey, we're recording for the inside. Trader Joe's podcast. Do you have a minute to talk to us about frozen food w mouth is that your mouth is full of frozen. We're getting record you Julie. Do you have favorite frozen products? Like, the mini talk goes the ice cream for the first time that he's been telling me though. I haven't had it yet. But I'm gonna try which one are you telling me? Cookie butter one. Thing. Can't go wrong. Can't go wrong. Helms grave on the couch with the spoon out it. Yeah. We are in the kitchen with Ross, and you might remember Ross from an earlier episode. He manages the quality assurance. He said the operation when it comes to making sure that the products are consistent and the quality that we approve is the quality. That is what you buy. I got you Skillet. 'cause I know you know, you can't do anything without Skillet. So Skillet is on the rain shop today, we are going to work with the cauliflower and yoki which everybody's talking about. It's in the customer choice awards. We talked about it in our conversation with Catherine it's a really popular product. And yet we even though there are three different ways to cook it outlined on the back of the package. We still have customers who are like, I don't know what to do with this. So when you make it what do you do with it? So I use the stove top preparation, but I had a little oil or butter. I I prefer all muscle. But. Just just to get the call started get him a little bit coated with oil. And then I pretty much follow the package directions. From there. We go. The sound of nuke hitting the skin. So from start to finish Ross. What is it? How long does this take to cook? Just under ten minutes. Two and a half servings per container for package, but even if you ate the whole bag it's three hundred and thirty calories for the whole bat for twelve ounces of what is sensibly pasta? That's pretty great. And we had about a quarter Cup of water just enough to kind of steam it try to cook it through so they'll get soft. So when you edit the water, you definitely put a cover on it. Yeah. So and that would just be for a couple of minutes pretty short term. And then take the top off continue to saute for another minute. Let the water evaporate, and then add a little bit oil getting nice crusty exterior as we've been talking a lot about what's the best way to make to cook are frozen products. And it really it really is product to product. There's no one way that's right for every single product. Correct. I mean, there's some rules of thumb. I mean, I mean, some fairly obvious wanted to be like Pete says very much better going to be in the of and then a microwave, but so anything that has a similar tore you want to get a specific text. On the outside usually in ovens going to do better. There'd be like a bread item. Like cheesy crust on top of something. Yeah. I'll I'll be honest. I've cooked are lasagna frozen lasagna in the microwave, and it's been delicious. It just doesn't have that sort of Brown cheesy crusts on it from reaching in here. Oh my goodness. Oh, that's really good. It really does tastes like cauliflower. But in the best way, I mean, it's it's got a it's got all of that. Like perfect cauliflower flavor. But yet it still tastes like an yoki, which is really interesting to me. But really good. Thank you. It was delicious. We get a lot of customer feedback about how much fun we have with our product names. Like it are frozen section. We have gone bananas frozen banana slices drenched in chocolate, those are religious, and I don't know what took us so long, but we finally got around to doing strawberries like that. So then we came up with gone berry. Crazy, and do you know what I've forgot his number is meant I'm going to have to read it. I don't know it by heart to be honest with you, but it is like six point zero two two one four nine times ten to the twenty third power. And that is equal in our minds to a little bit more than five Haas avocados in every package of guacamole. And when I think of a God rose number I think of avocados number guacamole like someone was probably waiting in the wings, a huge fan of Amedeo of Godhra this at talion molecular scientists like when we get his name on a product and finally happened in that one actually stuck in work. Amazingly one of the sort of all time favorites among customers, I think is our line of cereal bars that are called this blank walks into a bar. So this strawberry walks into a bar. So never would have guessed that like the punch line to a bad grownup. Joke becomes like a cereal bar. That's pretty much for kids. But it's apparently worked out. Okay. You know, it was the success of this. Strawberry walks into a bar that led to these peanuts. Go on a date. We used to have a line of bagels, the bagels Spinoza, it bagels the mind so some arcane reference to Baruch Spinoza who was a Jewish Dutch philosopher, and why this made sense for a bagel name who knows at this point. So then we just eventually abandoned it one of my favorites is the crunchy p snacks that we call trader Joe's contemplates enterpise. And if you go way back we have some just questionable judgment calls. Where we had some apple products. Yes, I'm gonna go there. Eve's apple buttered by atom, which then led to Eve's apples Arkell by Adam. And we just stopped doing that stuff. That was a good idea to stop dumping with did idea. Yeah. I think so. We hope you've enjoyed learning. More about frozen foods at trader Joe's. We'll keep looking around the US and around the world for more yummy stuff that you can heat up in your kitchen, and this really warms my heart almost two thousand people have rated this podcast on apple podcasts. Thank you. And be sure to hit that free. Subscribe button to wherever you get your podcasts is free. And it's worth every penny. And that way, you'll get new episodes automatically as soon as they're released until the next time. 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Laughter Yoga, Organizing the Bathroom Cupboard, and a Round-up of Trader Joes Products | Selfie Episode 76

Selfie with Kristen Howerton and Sarah James

50:38 min | 1 year ago

Laughter Yoga, Organizing the Bathroom Cupboard, and a Round-up of Trader Joes Products | Selfie Episode 76

"Hey, everyone. I'm Sarah James, a beauty blogger and self help aficionado, and I'm Kristen Howard, tan, a writer and psychotherapist and you're listening to selfie a weekly podcast about two women trying to tackle better self-care. We're both the opinion that self-care is important. And yet we find it allusive. And while we may have all the info we need. We don't always get there from the silly to the serious. We are taking a vulnerable yet. Humorous look at body mind and spirit, and maybe a touch of the random all my looking at the distractions and defenses APIs from carrying I like shit. Pig is well in today's episode, Sarah. And I are waxing poetic about our love of trader Joe's, I love it. We love it guys. This is not a sponsored post. No one's paying too much for your does. We're just really excited about trader Joe's. It's just such a great place, and when I moved away from California for years ago at that time, Oklahoma City did not have a trader Joe's, and I remember getting a little misty eyed when I was shopping there for the last time in California because I was like how am I gonna live without this? Well, I kind of feel bad for our listeners who don't live in the vicinity of a trader Joe's. But we're not going to talk about it the whole time. We'll get to in a few minutes. I truly do consider trader Joe's to be an aspect of my own personal self care because they just make it so easy. They really do make. It easy. Yeah. We could go into all all of the reasons we love it and all of our favorite picks in a little bit. But first we have to do. But I are weekly update Sara I have so many questions for you to talk to you first of all dying to talk to you about your recent Laguna trip. And specifically the laughing yoga that you posted on your Instagram though. Probably the most uncomfortable forty minutes of by lifetime forty four years. So I was in Laguna last week working with visit Laguna on a project that is rolling out this summer, and I have to be all kind of hush hush about it. But I was experiencing some things that Laguna had to offer. And one of those things was laughing yoga now. Which is so peak Laguna first of all so peak Laguna, and you probably if you didn't notice and the Instagram story, it's like half, the people are wearing tide is it, I know no right off main beach and one of the little coves. I knew that. This was happening. I was informed. They were I got kind of my call sheet for everything and I looked at all over. And I said, yeah, this all looks great. The laughing yoga though, I might start crying in the midst of it. And they're like, yeah, you're going to have to do it. So. It starts at like eight AM and we walked down to the beach. And then I see them all I see these people in they're very happy. They're very happy. Happy to be alive. Hey, I kind of I I was feeling the energy. I had no idea what to expect. And they're like, okay. So what we're gonna do is like we do these series of exercises where we're laughing and at first it's going to be, you know, you're going to be fake laughing. You know, it's just going to be. So just like, ha ha. But then you actually do start laughing. And I'm thinking like, I just the whole time on like personal hell personal hell personal hell, please get me out of here. So we start like okay guys first off. Let's walk the dog in like, so we're like pretending like, we're miming that were like my dau- a dog is pulling us, and we're like what? The miming is worse than the laugh. Yes. That's yes worse. So I'm like faking like pulling this dog and laughing in them, and that one was actually okay because there wasn't like interaction. But they're like, okay. Let's go around and everybody give high fives to other but miss. So I'm walking up to his home like nutty. This Zine hitter. So zany, but the best part was the people that I was on this shoot with our standing off to the side just roll that because they can tell how uncomfortable. I am. I mean, I'm I'm quite I can be quite the actress, and it was like probably it was my it was my hardest acting job to date. It was first of all it sounds like an improv class. Yes. A little bit. Yes. And it also sounds like a scene out of waiting for guffman. Oh, yes. It was these people will just these people are on a different level. I just I it's I don't know. Exactly. What level it is? But. It was unbelievable. And I kept on looking over at the people. I was with like giving them like laughing, but giving them the I like you better gray outta here right now. Oh, yeah. So it just went on and on and on. But I will say there does come point where you are laughing. I wasn't laughing because I was gleeful. I was actually just laughing at people, but it was a genuine laugh. I was laughing as hard as I could add these people like rolling around on the ground doing happy, baby. I mean throwing peace signs. There's so many videos that my friends captured of this. I'm going to have to send you more. Actually, I would really like these videos to be made public. I will put them on the selfie Facebook group these videos because it was insane. The best part was, thankfully, one of the people on the shoe came over about thirty five minutes in like, we are so sorry. We are on such a tight schedule. We're gonna have to pull Sayer outright now. And I'm just like, those tears. It was the weirdest thing. But it's been going on for decades in Laguna their yoga traditional yoga involved. Or is that more of just a name? I don't know why they call it yoga because there's no yoga poses. No stretching. No, there's no I mean, it's improv. It is a laughing improv class. We did. Some slight stretching we warmed up before like, you know, reaching to the sky turning on the ways looking over our shoulders that was the extent of the yoga part. But I will say my ads were they hurt so bad. I actually did get aid an app workout they were like super sore. So I mean, if you're looking for an AB workout and like, I just I don't know who I can suggest this too. If you obvious if you have no hang-ups about just acting like a complete freak that. I like I highly recommend it for me. It was interesting. I don't know if you know this, but you know, about a couple of decades ago there was a church here in Orange County that. Like where people were getting slain in the spirit by spontaneous, laughing what? And so when I saw your video it reminded me of that. I think maybe they go to that church. These people the laughing in the spirit, it was a vineyard out here. And really really so I just thought that was interesting just that this whole idea of corporate laughter being a spiritual. I mean, it's not a new idea, right? Do you feel like this though? I mean, it looked so hokey I would never wanna go. No. But in retrospect, do you feel like it changed your mood for the rest of the day? And well, it's kind of a loaded question. I think if the rest of my day was a normal day. It might have like I was I had like four other locations I had to shoot after that. So they did. I mean, I was I was smiling. And you can actually see some of the photographs that were taken that I it is a genuine. I can tell it is like a genuine smile on my face in just like a scary. Wasn't it most of the photos were scared. Smiles scared. Very scared smiles. But it was like all different ages of people. Oh, the one thing I've failed to mention that in between all of these specific improv exercises. You do where we come back together. In a circle everybody claps the goes. Hey, hey, ho coho. Hey. Gosh. So I will say for the rest of the day when we were like, inbetween shoots and things. I'd be like, hey, hey, ho, ho ho. Hey, hey. It's like my new thing. Hey, it really was. It was beyond it. It was beyond me. And it made me there were some older types. And but then there were like there were a couple like younger individuals that I would say like in their late twenties early thirties that were like dressed in like, they're normal type athletes are opposed to like the tide. I I was just thinking to myself like what what got them here. How did this happen? It. Also sounds a little burning man died. You know? Attract that the festival crowd. I mean, it seemed like the majority of the demographic was like older like yes post hippies for sure for sure. Yes. But I could see where it would attract like, you know, a burning man experiential kind of a person who just wants connection, and you know, I don't know. I cannot wait. Somebody's videos up. You guys are gonna love it. Because if you notice in most of them, and I'll I'll mention this. My post them, I'm always on the periphery like very rarely am I like in the middle of it. And you'll see these people you'll see like the like on the periphery in my little little Lululemon thing. Just kind of like. My I lied. I don't know why I am just I think we're similar in this way. I'm cynical about this kind of stuff like, my friend. Jan hat maker did a tour a couple years ago with a group of other women blinking on the name together. I think it was called together. But anyway, at the beginning of every kind of every gathering, they had a woman, I think her name was Angela Davis, and she like came out and cut of like hyped up the crowd, and they like pumped in dance music, and she got you on your feet, and you're supposed to like clap along, and she would give you specific instructions, and it was all really cheesy totally and people like ate it up. But I just hated it. Like, I was just like I am so uncomfortable. Well, how many conferences have we been to you? And I were like someone will do that everybody up out of their seats. And they put those on. And I look around. And there are people that are genuinely super pumped to be dancing around. And I'm like, this is their horrible. They're having the the moment of their like the moment of their lives. And I'm like wind can I sit down. When can I sit down sit down sit down. And also just like I'm like dark hearted cynical about. Carded cynical? I love it. Just like, I don't I don't know about this emotionality. I don't know. I don't know if it's because I was raised in like a weird church that was like antic- hera's Matic. But I'm just like, well, this just these displays of emotions or just. A part of the rise. No, no, no. What's it called? Yeah. Rise. It's Rachel Hollis's conference. Yeah, they have a special on Netflix or Amazon. I can't remember, and I watched part of that. Okay. We're gonna with withhold feeling going to withhold sharing feelings on the entire thing. Okay. She does a thing where she says she gets everybody on their feet. And then she says what does she say? She says same you, and then everybody claps, and then they yell back. New mood. You knew. Okay. No, no. And that's supposed to change your your mood and your to do throughout the day. Stay me new moon. I'll you I can't even I can't do you think we could do that for our anxiety. Because I'm a horrible person. I'm just Rindge. I just I'm like, no not doing that. Yeah. It was. I just. Yeah. I am right there with you. We are on the same page when it comes to this BS. I just can't deal with like that those displays of emotion. I can't only it's too happy. It just seems Cayenne. Yes. Yeah. But I know people out there like enjoy the stuff. I mean, you would not believe I will say when I posted those videos on my Instagram stories, I it was by far the most commented on videos. I think I've ever had. I mean, it was just hundreds of people and most of them were saying who WT f- are you dead yet? Have you died are you dying? You know, just knowing who I am. And then there were like lots of people are like, oh my gosh. This looks so fun. I've gotta do this. I'm like, okay. More power to you, Laguna beach main beach cove to the right? Have a good time. So funny. It's interesting. It is interesting because it raises all these questions of, you know, the whole power of positive thinking, or can you can you change your mood by deciding that you're changing your mood or right now. Right. I don't know. I don't know. Don't know if I buy all of it, which is probably I am cynical. We are both cynical. So tell me what's happening with you. I take it. You did not do any laughing yoga this week. I barely left my house this week. Okay. I am in book deadline jail award. It is horrible award. I have grossly underestimated the amount of time would take to finish this book. And I mean, I'm not kidding between now and April. I all I will be doing is sitting here and finishing. Well, you're well, you know, what? By the time. This podcast airs, we will be incredibly close to April. You'll probably be so done, maybe. Well, okay to clarify. I won't be done. I'll be done with my shitty first draft. But at least that will be turned in, and then I'm going to take I'm going to step away because I'm not kidding, Sarah. I mean, you wanna talk about self care. I am on the lowest rung. I am in my pajamas all day sitting with a laptop on my lap all day. Feel like there's been so many seasons of my life where I'm like, I'm too busy to exercise. I'm too busy, blah, blah, blah. Right. Okay. All of that always has been bullshit except right now. It's actually true. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Like, I really really don't have time for anything. But this. Well, we have just got to keep you've got to keep looking ahead. You have like a week and a half until deadline, and then at least, you know, at least it's out of your hands for a while, you know, while you're editor gets it and starts working with it. And then you can take a walk on the beach. And then just go to laughter yoga. It's it's every it's every Saturday. I mean, Friday, I'm going to shove it. Spring break is late. And so shortly after I turn it in. We are headed to Florida. Oh, okay. You'll see family. Yeah. So I go to wrap up this time of intense stress with visit to my family. Well, that were sounds amazing. I'm sure that's going to really help with your stress levels. Yeah. Not at all during. No, no. Of course, not course, not might make Christon. And then we did. Okay. Do you? Remember when we had the founder of fashion able on our podcast Barrett ward. Yeah. Barrett. And he had one ask of all of us yet. I did not follow until now he said watched the movie true the true cost a net flicks. Yes. Which I didn't do. Well. I just did. And I did. And I watched it with my children. Yeah. And okay, I'm here to say everybody does need to watch. It really just you know, you just need to be aware that you're going to have to break up with old navy H M. I know. I know I yes, not that. You're shopping there a ton. But you know, all of the I mean it just yeah. It opened up the whole, you know, it's like in the same way that we're checking the, you know, environmental working group for the ingredients in the products were putting on our skin, we really truly as a society have. Have to check the sourcing of the clothes. Oh, we have totally agree because we're exploiting people in poverty around the world for our cheap clothing. Absolutely. I went into the gap which is not a place. I usually frequent very often always always buying a surprise to me. Yeah. It was something for me. I was trying to get something like last minute some specific colored t shirts she had to have for school. And it was like I walked in there. And it's like forty percents off the whole store, and and you just no I mean, the minute you see that in the prices, you're like a who exactly is making these clothing and same thing like you said with old navy, and it his h in all of it. I I know I feel like I've I've really made the switch over to like brands that. Are mostly made in America if they're not there's like ethically sourced. But at the same time, that's a lot more money. You know, is it is a lot. It's a lot more money and. I know there's a lot of people that can't buy brands like that. Because there's very few brands like that out there that are affordable. But yet not taking advantage of people. It's like I mean, it's so tough because to say that you can't is to say I can't not like live off the back of another person in another country who's being exploited yet. I mean, yes, we all can write it looks like having less clothing. Yes. And it looks like keeping our pieces longer spending a little bit more on them. But but wearing them longer. Yes. Not probably having the like, you know, the latest little fad. You know, it's a lot of the dresses that I wore on this this shoot. When people would see them in my stories. A photographs are like oh my gosh. Whereas address from whereas address from and I mean, all of these dresses were old because you know, I just I made the investment I've had them for young errors. I wear them every spring and summer, I love them as much as the day. I bought them. So it is kind of a mindset of like not going for the trends. But they're they're more classic. Yeah. They're just like classic things. And you know, one brand that comes to mind that I think doing really well in that on his ever lane. And so, you know, I think that they pay a lot of tension to where they're sourcing who they're using. And they are actually. They're not that expensive. I mean, they're very affordable compared to compared to in its fair, like basic clothing, you know, t shirts jeans things that you can wear forever. That don't you know, don't subscribe to any sort of specific trend. Yeah. Absolutely. And of course, crochet kids, and yeah and friendly without brand forever. That is their entire vibe that you know, who made it, you know, the whole source. I mean, it's tough. I, you know, and I will say this. My kids watched it, and you know, how I feel like we as adults. There are so many aspects of our American culture to be honest that we just we learned to justify, you know. Right. And we we make we create narratives that make us feel better about ourselves. Well, you know, it's like at least as people are getting a job or whatever. And they go over those narratives in the movie, but it's looking when you're watching this documentary through the eyes of a more innocent child who hasn't created these narratives, it's really horrifying my kids were horrified. It makes me sick thing. He bought it. I am going to watch it and just being discussed it. So I'm doing this thing with my children where I have a number of kind of social commentary documentaries queued up. Yeah. You know, some on Wall Street and some on. Yeah. The ethics food. And what I'm doing is. I'm making us watch twenty minutes of an educational documentary before we can watch whatever the show is. They wanna to watch super smart. I love that. Because I don't know how else I it's like I want them to be educated on this stuff. There's so many good documentaries on Netflix right now. Yeah. Gosh, the really bar just like so many so many aspects of ethics or th you know, documentaries about kindness or about the prison to pipeline system. Like, so many things I really want my kids to know and care about the only way I can get them to watch. It is then I promise an episode of Brooklyn nine, but you know, what whatever, you know, what it's just like you're clean before screen is the same. It's the same thing. I just having to do with what you're watching. And like what you're learning about. I think it's great. You always do we still have clean before screen. That's still for still have a reading rule twenty minutes of reading before. And now twenty minutes of documentary. So it's basically takes my kids in our to prepare to watch the show. I mean, I like it though. They wanted enough. So yeah, they wanted enough. Speaking of spending money. Let's talk about our two thumbs up. Let's go against everything. We just spoke about tell people more things they can buy how about what do you have? What do you have for us? Well, I I am reporting back about the Revlon one-step hairdryer in volumizer. Remember, you got it. Okay. I'm ready with a report on that as well. Okay. How did you find it? Well, I got the one that was the round brush. Yes. You, and I have very similar hair thin thick hair. But fine with a lot of body. Okay. This thing did not work at all for my hair. I was laughing because I have naturally wavy hair. It just couldn't it consist move out around the roots. So my hair looked like a like kind of standing off of my scalp, and then it was kind of like straight. It looked Redick euless. I was laughing hysterically at myself. But okay, Sarah. I'm kind of in a way like in a shot and Freud away happy to hear this because same. Oh, I mean, I could not I decided we'll this is this is my second point. And this is why it's actually two thumbs up. It works beautifully for my daughter yet. She has fine straight hair. And she doesn't like holding the brush AM, the hairdryer, and she can just brush through her hair while it's drying, and it has been a beautiful thing so five, and I think now that I look back on some people that were posting about it who really liked it. They generally had thinner hair. I noticed them. So like if you're looking for body, and like getting a little bit more own thin, your hair go for it. If you're looking to smooth out your hair and make it calm the F down a little bit. No. Well, I mean, our first clue might have been that. It's called a volumizer, which literally of what I want my hair. Exactly, I do not need volume to lay down. Yes. Yes. So but Maluku loves it. So little kids that are getting preteens wanting to blow dry their hair go for it. But or like, you said if you don't I mean you and I are fighting. We're fighting a battle every time. We blow dryer hair. We both have massive cow licks. Yes. Yes. We both have weird bendy waves in places. So I mean, I there is a lot of precision involved when I am blow drying, my hair with around brush. Oh, yeah. It's it's so funny. How this links we go to both of us to like smooth out the hair, but then wave it out with our curling iron. Tire. I literally straighten my hair, and then curl it in a different curl pattern than totally out of my head. Yeah. Me too. The grass is always greener, the grass is always greener. So that's my number one. My number two are have you? Tried the go macro the protein bars. They have trader Joes they have like at all the major stores. Yeah. There my sister. So my sister is like a protein bar connoisseur. Because you know, she works at like five hundred hours a day. And she, oh, she's she's like I eat one of these every single morning before I work out because those of you out there that are wanting that work out in the morning. I mean, I don't know about you. I can't eat anything before I work out. But if I'm doing like a major cardio sometimes I will want a bar or something just to give me a little sustained energy. So the and something in your stomach. Yeah. Yeah. But like I can't eat anything else that has to be like a bar. Otherwise, I feel like I'm gonna throw up. So this is just a plant based bar that has a whole bunch of different flavors. She told me specifically about there is a chocolate chip and peanut butter one and hits home, really tasty. And I think there's like eleven eleven or twelve grams of protein in it like it's a lot of protein, but doesn't taste gross. So she got me hooked on them. So there's a whole bunch of flavors, but I like the peanut butter and chocolate chip. And there's this coconut almond chocolate chip that is so good, and you can buy them similarly, but I've been buying them on Amazon I can get him because I put on my subscribe and save. So I like the extra fifteen percent off, you know, anyway, looking for a yummy bar. I have found the been very helpful for me even in the day. Like, my scary time is from three thirty to six. That's when I am like I will put so many processed puffed snacks in my face like. Seriously. I have a problem. In fact, when I was in Laguna, I didn't have time to snack. I came home pounds lighter because I was on shoving stupid snacks in my face all day in something happens when I get home from school with the kids until I make dinner that it's like, it's just nonstop. I will just non stop eat crap. So these have been good thin because the protein makes me feel a little more full, and it tastes like a tree because it's chocolate and peanut butter. So how did these compare to like Lara bar? Okay there. They can't know you'll Laura bars are more like. How do you explain the texture of Lara bar? They're kind of moist they're more. These are not moist. These are not like the date the date. Texture is strong. Yes, anything. Yes. This is a smoother bar. And but it still it's not like a whole bunch of nuts and things thrown together. Like, you know, some hind bar, right? It's not like a kind bar at all. It is more like a smooth but hard slightly chewy bar, but not to chewy because some of them really gross me out. But it just has a really really good flavor. Like, I love the flavor and they're easy to eat. They don't stick in your teeth too much. And I dislike them, so I've got those on like subscribe and save I've got them going all the time. Now my husband's on them. So my sister was right. I trust her with all of her her damage to try that. I am. So on the subscribe and save oh man sent off. All right. So good. I have no good. I mean, everything that I buy on the regular. I just have unsubscribe a subscribe and save fifty two off me too. I love it. Although you know, what my ultimate self care. No, one of my ultimate self care goals is is just to learn to make these bars. Homemade right. But are you going to do that way better with of course, they would I can't do that? It's too much. It's too much. She just really made them in bulk. Oh my gosh. No topic. It's to make them. Yeah. Okay. The now you're talking nine these days. Sarah, one days, I'm going to be that mom while you just get your book out there in the in the public first, and then you can work on making your own protein bars. Nothing is though that is something I would do right now because I'm so tired on this book that I will take on any project. Oh, totally that comes in my path. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Act that relates to my first thumbs up, which is that I bought these clear cosmetics organizers from Amazon okay now, let me try to explain these things they are like a rectangular box. And they have clear drawers that in and out. Oh my gosh. Let me just tell you. I they make me so happy. So I went through and I've organized I bought two of them. I bought one and I loved it so much about another one. So I have on my creams in one all my nasal sprays in one all my eyes shadows in one all my voice drivers in one. And I have them labelled. So you can see exactly what everything is. So it used to be if I opened I have like this. I know like a pantry kind of thing in my bathroom cupboard. If I opened the cupboard before it was just mass products. Right, right. Everything just standing on its edge. Now, it's like it's so organized, and you can pull the doors out. So if I'm doing my makeup, I can pull out the whole I shadow drawer us, all the eye shadows. And put the whole yes, that's huge. I love the sing I will post photos in lengthy podcast community. But I mean, really. I mean, it it really did change the organization of my bathroom. Yeah. Oh, I love it. I mean, there is nothing that makes me happier than organiz bathrobe, or as organized cosmetics. It's just and with the labels on it that oh you so happy. So like, Marie condo. It is very Murray condo. I'm proud of you as I love it. So what else do you have my second one is one that you recommended a while back, which is the natural calm is the brand magnesium Gumy's love those things. I am on the program. I'm taking him every day because you know, magnesium is good for anxiety. And it's also good for keeping you regular. But I was doing I had the powdered natural calm, and I've used that for years. But if you read the instructions on the powder, natural calm, you're supposed to let it sit for fifteen minutes before you drink it. Oh, I didn't know that. That's ridiculous. No way you will. You can do one of two things you can you can put it in hot water. And then you don't have to wait, right? I don't like that. It's like a raspberry flavor. I don't like it hot. Yeah. No new or if you put it in cold water, you're supposed to wait, fifteen minutes. So I cannot even tell you how many times I make myself a Cup of natural calm. And then I wait fifteen minutes, and then I wait five hours. And I'm like, oh, oh, there's that co now she'll it drink there. It is over there high really forget every time. So the I like the guy means that it's just one and done. Yeah. I love the magnesium Gumy's so much. I give them to my daughter because she actually has tummy can be a little constipated once in a while. And those Gumy's are amazing for that. Keeping your regular. Oh, they will. You gotta be careful you go to. Yeah. Now. She doesn't me one time. She she gets one. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So we have to talk about trader Joe's. Well, we are going to dive into the products we love most. But first of all, let's just talk about why we live trader Joe's in general some. Yes. Well, it's easy. It's so easy. Prewashed chopped veggies like by my bag kale. It's already ready to go. I just feel like it's just so easy. It is so easy. Yeah. I love. It's like almost like a sous chef easy options of, you know, full fruits and vegetables that you can just take home and like cook up yet really quickly. Totally agree. I also like the fact that they use very few food is they have a lot of die free options. Yes. And then very little if any hydrogenated oils, and a lot of things are minimally processed they have ton of organic options. Yup. Yup. Chocolate is ethical their chocolate is ethical which is huge because I've been on not on that tirade for year. You have just the the slave trade in chocolate, and we completely went off commercial chocolate in my house and for a while. It was a challenge like buying it online. And then all the sudden it's like, oh my gosh. Trader Joe's all of their chocolate is ethical. Yeah. I feel like they you know, they've gotten a little bit bigger. But in general, they're sourcing most of their stuff from reputable dealers and things they're they're making conscious decisions to get to find suppliers. That are good. They are. So I always appreciate that. Actually like with their their meats. I feel like they're organic chicken breast some things maybe not art organic. But they are natural like the animal welfare is good. You know, they they look into that cage free eggs the house, sell other eggs. Yeah. And plus I can walk out of whole foods with like two of my little reusable shopping totes, and I've probably hit about one hundred and fifty bucks or I can go to trader Joe's and have like seven shopping totes filled for the same price. It is it is so affordable, so affordable. Sometimes to the point where I'm like, even you it's interesting speak. Specifically of one thing we use the Applegate smoked Turkey slices. They're just deli slice made by Applegate. It's the Turkey my kids like at whole foods or sprout. Routes that little package is seven ninety nine. And at trader Joe's, it's three ninety nine. It's half more than half off. I don't know how they can do this. But famous act I mean, same packaging same everything in its half off, so affordable. Well, although I do wanna talk about the one dark side of trader Joe's, but and that is their parking lot. Oh, I know be prepared to get run over in Iraq universally their parking lots to small this is a fact it's a fact they do it on purpose. I think I mean, how why why I mean there is one out here you probably be into this one. It's the one that's across from south coast plaza. Oh my gosh. I mean, there are multiple people in every lane trying to vulture yakking spot. It's ridiculous. There's times that I've been like I'm just going to give up, and I am sad that trader Joe's does not have a home delivery option. Yeah. That's a bummer. You actually have to get out and talk to all the nice tritter. Joe's employees. They are very nice though, so talkie and nice. They're always or it's kind of like chick. It's like, they're so nice. Let pleasure. It's my pleasure. It's yeah. I know. And I will I only I have I have a thing. I go to trader Joe's one day a week after I drop my kids off at school because it opens at a, and I get there at a and that is the only time I will go trader Joe's is from eight to nine on a weekday morning. If you ever see me there on a weekend. I'm crying in the corner and fetal position that's not something bad has happened. Something very very bad has happened. Whoa. Okay. So let's talk about some of our favorite products. Will you go for? Okay. Well, I'm starting off first with some frozen items because I think you always need to have a couple like frozen dishes. If you had need a quick lunch or she's like one of those night. I just sometimes it needs to happen. So I really like there. There Indian frozen entrees specifically have you had their chicken tika? Oh, it's it's amazing. And I actually because Joppa is gluten free Ah-ha on occasion. I mean, very rarely. But on occasion, I'll serve a meal that doesn't work for him. Yeah. He'll have to go somewhere that for sure I just stock them in my freezer as his Goto meal. Yes. It is a go to lunch for me in the winter when it's kind of cold, and let's say, I don't have a soup ready or something. I'd just pop that in the microwave. It is gluten free. The flavor is amazing the other one I like that's kind of an Indian like Asian type is the frozen vegetable pinning curry, and it has like it's it's vegetarian. It doesn't have gluten as well. And it has like the baby corns, I love those little baby corn things and like totally the snap peas and. The carrots, and it is delicious as well. If you're looking for something that doesn't have a typical animal protein in it. I love that one. And then the third my third frozen that I love is there. Garlic non bread. Have you had that in the green package? It's crack I mean, I can't I can't even keep out in the house because I'm just gonna eat it at night. Well, that's the thing. Like, I can't eat it because it has gluten in obviously. But when we we have spaghetti Meatball night. That's what we that's what we do as our like, garlic kind of bread. And I just sit there, and it never fails every night. I'm like, I'll just I'll just stick like a little inch off the off the corner. Like, we just like smother and butter, and then I always end up eating like half of because he's so delicious. So I love that. And they have a regular too. But I say go for the garlic people go through gusto, or here's my favorite frozen. Yeah. From trader Joe's the ones that I keep on hand. The chili lime chicken. Burgers. Okay. So interesting. You mention that because I just bought them there in my freezer, but I have not tried them yet. Oh, really you've never had those. No. Are they great the times you go to trader Joe's? I'm so surprised. They're just for me. That's a really quick and easy lunch. I'll just pop one out heated up and. Yeah. Get with rice or veggies or something. Yeah. But they're really flavorful. Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna bust says out this week for without a bun. I just I mean for real that is a very common lunch for me. I just pop one of those out heated up on, you know. On a pan. And then eat it with veggies. And then also from the frozen section. This is the thing. I keep on hand. Like so many in my freezer is the Turkey meatballs. Yeah. Those are great you can feed. I mean, you know, when you find yourself like all of a sudden, there's like ten extra kids over mealtime. And you're like, oh, I guess I'm feeding all of you. I pop this Turkey meatballs. No there. So I mean, that's that's a staple for derby derby, he's just kind of a plain eater. He his two favorite meals are salmon with rice or those meatballs with rice. Like, I put the speaking of trader traderjoes. This the. What's it called? I think it's very teriyaki or Soyinke. Yep. I just pour that over it in a crock pot. There you go. Then we put it over rice. It's so good. So good. Oh, it's so yummy. I just thought of one more to that. I have to say that's frozen for my kids. I don't think they're that. Great. But they love him the many chicken tacos. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's always a quick thing too. If they just wanna you know, I don't have anything around pop those in this tiny little miniature tacos fill with chicken meat my kids. Love those are great. Those are such an easy easy meal. Yeah. Anymore frozen for you? No, those are the big ones. Okay. Let's talk about like chips and things because they have a new chip this year that we blow through and it's the restaurant style. White corn tortilla chips now. Yes, have you had him in the white bag with the blue writing the lime? You're just thinking tortilla chip, you need to know that this is a level up. Oh level up. There like lime salty. They're so good all the rest of the trader Joe's tortilla chips. I can live without going to be honest like all those other ones, but this new one in the white bag this has restaurant style. They are. So like Tangy like when they touch your tongue because like the lime in the salt dealerships. I love those well, I like those, but I'm also partial to their sweet potato tortilla chips. I have not had those before you have in. No, we'll sweet potatoes or not really my thing. Oh, see I love sweet potatoes. Do these chips because they taste like a tortilla chip, but they have that sweet potato taste, and my very favorite snack combo is sweet potato tortilla chips with their white being HAMAs. Oh my gosh. The white bean. Calmness is amazing. But can I level that up with jalapeno and salon show HAMAs? So good, oh my eighties like. A party in your mouth, people it sippy. So zippy I will blow through a container of that in like five days. I just every snack. It's like carrots in their celery and their chips in there. What else can I dip in this HAMAs? It's so good. Well, I have to say trader Joe's. I mean, it is the snack destination. You are. So right. You're having a party you're going on a picnic. You're going to the Hollywood bowl. Trader Joe's has everything you need. Totally. You're gonna best spread Italy does. Yes. Absolutely. Okay. Here's a couple of other snacks. Dalla from them. They're salt and pepper. Pistachios. Delicious die. I die. I die. The ranch seasoned crispy chick peas amazing love Tangy, Tangy, what other snacks to you love the brownie and owed bar. So like when you go were all of the little granola bars are and they have like they have a blue box. And it says had these there Dr they look like they're dark chocolate with a little bit of wine drizzle on the top by kids. Love these things. It's just kind of like a little it's a Brown note bar. That's what it is Kristin what it's called rowdy. Nope. Are they love those? I have to give a shout out to trader Joe's for their gluten free whole grain bread. Eight is my favorite gluten-free bread that I've ever had anywhere. And really. Yeah. And it's not even in the refrigerator freezer section. It's just in the regular bread. I'll they have like three different kinds of the gluten free. The other two are not that great. But. The gluten free whole grain bread. It's in a green package, so good. It's my favourite gluten-free bread. I love it. It's like it's like two fifty or something. It's ridiculous. Oh, I know. I have to say like, you're like you're saying I mean, if you're not gluten free, you may not know the woes of gluten-free bread. But at the conventional grocery store, you have to buy it frozen. Yes. Frozen or on its yes. Five ninety nine six ninety nine. And it trader Joe's just right there amongst the regular breads right with a regular breads. I know it's so so good. I do love that. We've talked about the salad toppers before huge fan of they're individually packaged salad toppers. Although, sarah. I've not seen them editor Joe's in some Mmela. I haven't either. Now that you mention that some a little bit a little bit scared about that. And then I love they have a bagged salad called Christopher's crunch on my God. It's the best thing ever. So crunchy, so crunchy, it's like, it's. Almost like. Julianne cabin shit. Come in it Habich. I think there is a little hiccup in it. Well, so it just it makes this really crunchy salad. You can put more of like an oil based dressing on it. And it's not gonna go limp or anything and so good with solid hoppers on top. Have you tried the new mommy seasoning blend? No. But I'm dying to been at my store yet. It just came out. And it's really good. It's it's really good. It might have even top as it have nutritional Houston it. I don't know. That's a good question. I'll have to look I don't know if the top of my head, but it's very very delicious. We'll I love their everything, but the bagel. Yeah. Seasoning. That's my favorite. So I liked to everything, but the bagel more than the salad toppers. Sometimes you can get a little bag of the salvatore's, and it has too much red chili pepper in it, and it's really has like really hot and I like spicy stuff. But I also must warn the. Everything but the bagel seasoning bled. That's gonna give you fire breath for the rest of the day. Totally be sure is garlic and onion. I mean, you eat that. And yeah, everyone you talk to you for the rest of the day ios that you ate that. Oh, yeah. So like eat it with a friend both of you eat it together. And then don't talk to anyone else all day long because it's rank. But it's so delicious have you seen how they just came out with the Rahman that just like the little Rahman bowls for the microwave. No Air New. My son loves Rahman. Just like your typical like pour the water in over the noodles. But this is Neil again, and they just came out with their own. And I swear I think he said at least twice a week at school. He takes it because he can use a microwave at school. It's I think they're like a dollar fifty. He loves it. But it doesn't have all of the light, crappy preservatives, and at that like you're ankle like, you know, top noodle or whatever it's called top Roman. Oh, no. Because my my kids would happily top Rodman every single day. I would too if I just. I had no control. It's really good. Really good. And then I have one beverage have you tried the cocoa almond cashew beverage. Oh, okay. So it's just like it tastes like chocolate milk, but it's non dairy. It's just made from chocolate in some nut milks, and it's delicious, and you can heated up for like hot chocolate for your kids and you're looking for a non dairy alternative. It's delicious. I like mine cold right out of the frigerator. But it's amazing. Really tasty. I feel like that could be good with rum in it to throw that out there. I think he might be right. A little hot toddy like that idea. I like it. Okay. One other. Honorable mention I have to give in terms of desserts and treats the dark chocolate sea salt caramels are my favorite treat ever. They are so good. It has the gooey Carmel. It has big pieces of chunky salt on the top. It's dark chocolate is the very best. I'm actually going to trader Joe's right after we record this. And that's all my less now. Because now, I don't know if this is the same one that I'm thinking of my friends when they come over they bring a dark chocolate bar that has caramel inside of it. So like when you break off the pieces of the bar, like the caramel just uses out is this the same thing or are these like individual Carbonell? But no, this is different. This one comes in a box, and they're individual little rectangles probably like nine in the. Oh, there was mall fancy chocolate. Okay. I'm going to check that out for sure. Yeah. I love it. That's a lot of stuff. I know that is a lot of stuff. Do you have anything else? No. That's it. 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40: The Trader Joe's List Episode

Hungry Girl: Chew The Right Thing!

27:41 min | 1 year ago

40: The Trader Joe's List Episode

"Hungry. Because it's. I'm so hungry. Hey, everyone. It's me. Lisa Lillian, also known as hungry girl. How are you? I know you're saying fine. I'm here at hungry land. I've got Mike Jamie with me. But I'm excited to say we have a very different show today. I know it's exciting. Very can't. Wait. I don't believe. That's not convinced. I can't wait. Yes goes. Okay. So for people who like trader Joe's, this is going to be an episode you're gonna love and as a bit of a departure the bulk of this episode is Acuna. I mean, we are excited because we've got Natasha from trader Joe's list who came into chat with us and spill all of her secrets, she's like an Instagram Queen how many how many followers does she have like lots. You like a lot of people think she's the official traitor before trader Joe's had their own handle. She was it. That's where you went to get anything trader Joe's, and she tries everything. Yeah. She does. And she's a nice person. And she's a cool check. And you know, I had the chance to chat with her. So we're gonna have Acuna, and then we're gonna do to Intel which is always fun with Neutra. Joe's products. W didn't have launched you. And you're not gonna eat dinner. All right. So we're going to set it up by starting the interview now. So let's just jump right in the tasha. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. So you are like a trader Joe's guru. Could you just fill me on how that happened in how it took off? Yeah. So it was one of those things you don't expect to have happened in like, I think it was two thousand eight I lived with a couple of girls in a house in Manhattan beach, and I would go shop at trader Joe's and fill my pantry full of all the trader Joe's Getty's that I liked and then they would come over and eat all of my food. I'd have nothing left. Like you guys. Go get your own food. And they're like, well, we don't we don't know what to buy their. It's like they're scared of this foreign grocery stores. They ended up. Starting a blog and at the time, I was working for an accounting company. And I like absolutely did not enjoy what I was doing. I wasn't good at it. And I had to be busy during the day. And I'd be working in janitors closet for sixteen hours a day with no windows, liberally janitor. And if I had to get up to the bathroom I had to ask like what it was. It was terrible. So then I one of the girls I actually worked with I asked her like, she told me, she started a blog, and I was like what's that? And she's like me posted out of them people. See, and so what your blog about she's like shoes as okay? So she started the shoe blog. And I was just kind of like something in it did something to me. And I felt good about it. So then I was like, wow, I'm going to start a blog when it was like, what am I gonna blog about? And I was like, you know, what I'm gonna blog about trader Joe's, and I can send it to my friends, and they'll know to buy can stop eating all my food. So then I started the blog start off just to get your friends to stop eating your food. Yeah. That's how it all started. Yeah. And they had weird things. I kind of wanted to are used to write like really funny like little. Shirts on what each item was like polenta. I compared to a yellow submarine with going to sink its way into your stomach like you've just wanted to see you love to write. I don't know if I love to write. But I felt like working the accounting world was so draining on any creativity. I had and I felt that like excitement for life kind of draining. And that like thinking like that was giving me some sort of hope, so how many trader Joe's would you say you've been to? That's really good question. I've never counted. But I'd say probably close to fifteen to twenty. That's a lot. Yes. More than I've been to. Yes. Do you have a favorite? Well, I'd have to say there's the one that's closest to me. And where I live I live in L A, and Santa Monica, and there's one on PICO. And I don't know just that feels good to me. I know my way around the store, I could have my eyes closed. I know where to go if they relocate items. I'm always like I normally put it. I can find it. Really? Yes. I know the ins and outs. I'd say that's my favorite store. How many times a week? Are you there? It really depends. So if I'm traveling for work, I'll do a huge hall like a two hundred and fifty dollar hall because I have to grab all the things to try the new things. And if it's like, I'm working from home one week, I'll go like three or four times. That's a lot. Do they know you there? So good timing. Because I I just want this past week. And I was walking around just kind of like shuffling around the walking slow like I I don't know what I was going there to buy or just kind of scanning Lyles and someone came up to me. And they said, I really like your when you go live, and I looked around. I was like, and then it was an employee that worked there, and he said, I know you shop here, you're the you're the trader Joe's list. Girl. Yeah. That's me. He's like, okay. I just I really I really like your show or whatever it is that you're putting on and I love your Instagram account. So he he's a first person ever come up to me. And actually recognize me really just happened. I was assuming you were like a huge celebrity at these local trader Joe's in groupies like you recognized there. I'm sure that some of the shoppers know who you are no one's ever said anything. So maybe I'm just an in incognito. But it's kind of obvious when I'm standing there taking pictures. Trying to take selfies with you need like trader Joe's lists sweater. I know I thought about that a little promotional. All right. So what is the one product from trader Joe's that has been discontinued that you wish they would bring back. Oh boy. This is a tough question because I have a really bad memory. What's one product? Well, I can only say some products they do bring back. So I guess to reword it because I have an answer for that. One would be what's a product. I wish they'd keep on the shelves your round that they don't that would be the truffle cease old. It's limited only one time of years. I have to buy multiple and this year. I was only able to get one knows the last one, and it was the last shipment. And it was the last one in the Shipman's it's gone now because that's my favorite. I love truffle salt. Yeah. It was it was the last one every time I've gone. They don't even have the shelving for it anymore. You could probably get it on EBay for like five times. I know rice. It's fun. Well, sometimes it is. Because then you're like luck. I got this. I don't care I paid one hundred fifty dollars for a bottle of salt. But it's worth it. But it's great truffle salt is great. Yeah. I really like it. What do you put it on everything? I mean, I get through truffle seasons. Obviously. So just when the trouble salts available. Put it on the gnocchi put it on. Hamburger, Patty rice, you can sprinkle it onto like if you're paying spinach or kale. I do the same thing. I just got back from France. So we bought truffle salt there. And I have since ordered a lot of truffle salt. Not from trader Joe's, I got it on Amazon. I don't want to tell you the cheat on TJ's, but they have pretty good truffles hold on Amazon. And I've been putting it on everything as well. So what are some of the newest products that you've seen like to me? I feel like trader Joe's is run by like magical fairies that just know what I'm thinking. And every time I go there, there's at least five new products, and I'm like, how did this just appear and be so relevant and so trendy. So what are some of the things you've spotted that? You're most impressed with. I say the ones that probably log people recognize are like the cauliflower gnocchi cauliflower rice, both very popular. They've come out with a couple of new pre made salads that I think are really good. They're called. They're like salad palette and a name. So they have a couple that I really like love the south west. That's not a. New one day the pre made one okay, they also have a lettuce. Mix the southwestern lettuce Muncie kill must make your own. You can make your own. Yeah. No. I get the one that already comes with the fed and the onions and the beans and the corn. And then I add the trader Joe's chicken fajita chicken on top of it. That's the best and you don't eat dressing. That's really good. Let's try that ABC bars. I actually tried them the first time, and I did not like them. And now I am obsessed with them. All right over here. I went out to buy them because I saw you saying that you took them to Japan yet. Right. Yeah. So I bought them and they're good. But they taste very like you have to like marzipan Amerada a strong flavor. And I was going into thinking I'm chocolate lover give me the chocolate. And so I was just like this. This isn't have the right balance of chocolate in it. But then I kept thinking about during the day. And I was like is that do I want another one? I think I do. And then I now I just like I buy boxes of them. And I'm scared of the day. They're not they're just keep buying them freeze them. Just in case they room in my freezer. Get another freezer. No. But it's interesting that you say that I'll try it again. Because there was I was expecting a cocoa or chocolate Raver. It's not there. Right. It's all like as you say amaretto almond extract marzipan flavor, but it's nice and soft. Good texture. Yeah. So if you go into it with this mindset that like, hey this. This is going to be a marzipan flavor with it has a nice texture and some almond butter. It's great another thing really like is the collagen the collagen powder. Oh, they haven't tried theirs. Yeah. So it's ninety nine and it's it's amazing. It's I I started taking it because I have I have some allergies that are not ineffective. But they do get like, you know, little itchy. And I don't feel very good. So I started taking their collagen powder. And I read it's really good for your gut and whatnot. And it's I don't know if it's one of those like pseudo things where you think it's it's going to do something. So it does. But I've felt like a lot better like my stomach just. Feels better hair like Jagger in your nails, growing people even like strong. Now's they've never said that really. Yeah. So you crediting the collagen. Yeah. And it's a good price because the collagen I take is more expensive. Maybe I'll make the switch. So what are your top five? Trader Joe's Staples things that are always in your house. Always okay the avocados. They're always rock-hard when I buy them. So by four and then like they kind of get ripe over over the week. So that I eat dollar caught does. I if I'm out of the call not I buy that. Oh, I love Kabukicho. So I always grab one of those, yuck. Really gingery flavour. Every a lot of I'm alone in that. Everybody loves Kabukicho. I don't know. I don't it's not my thing. But that it's good to know. The trader Joe's has good Khumbu because it's very expensive. It's an expensive habit. Yeah. I don't I don't have every day. But it's always my fridge. I also have a creature of habit. So I eat things like all the time. Like, I eat the same thing and then for like a week, and then a like different any that for week. So I also like these they look like Dr Prager Zf frozen bird like these and those are really good. So all take those and add them to a salad or all all add the taco mix MC tacos out of them. Are they they meet what what are the he's made of it's their vegan. So they're they don't have Sawyer anything. And then there made from protein. I think called trader Joe's something. Trader Joe's some p protein burgers something in burger. That's good to know. Because we're always looking for new patties. It's really good. And I like that doesn't have soy doesn't have. We doesn't have corn p protein. I also like their org. It's the organic chicken sausage. I actually think it's not branded trader Joe's. It's just the gate, pre cook, chicken sausage. And it's great. If you don't have a lot of time because they're like portion controlled because it's just ones authors, you can cut it up. And I'll fry put it on a salad or. Those own zucchinis also by those because I- I- Zoodles all the time. You do what kind of realized gee have. So I bought the mini kitchen kitchenaid mixer, and then I bought the spot allies or attachment that then you can put in different different arm levers and do like big big spirals or skinny spirals or you can switch it out and put like make lasagna noodle out of zucchini. It's kitchen aids. Like nailed it. And I had one of the plastic ones. And it'd be like you'd be turning your arm like a. Yeah, burns calories. Trying to hold on the counter. And it was just like it was a mess. I was like I don't care much in costs and buying it. And it's it's so much time, and it's really easy to clean build lasagna. Noodles. Sounds really great. 'cause I always try to slice. It really thin end up almost my fingers off if you if you liked the lasagna noodle, this is it's just fascinating to watch. Cause it literally like, it's it's not just like this. You have to take a peeler. Just go strip strip. It just happened that so cool. It's a kitchen aid product, I'll show it to you. I wanna see it. All right. So have you ever been disappointed? Like, you look at something at trader Joe's, you're super excited to get it home, and you taste it. And you're like this is not what I expected. Yes. And it's I mean ABC bars I felt that way. But then it was like something happened. After that. I thought I thought my relationship with them was over then then came back really strong. I think one of the things about shorter Joe that tritter that makes them so special and so good is that they I I don't have you listened to their podcast. Well, I did for a minute it sounded like a commercial like something you'd hear when you're walking down the aisles of dinner Joe's, I listen to because I was like it was a duty of mine like I have to. And you have to and one of the things they do is they have like a very secretive tasting room. And I guess there's like five or six people in there. And it's like an all white room white table like it's just there's no color anything to focus on these like like the new products are gonna bring in. So my point is like these everything is so highly vetted, a trader Joe's that I feel like you can't really go wrong except with the these little mini frozen. Tacos. Like, they look delicious on the box. And I got home I tried and they're just like these mushy things fall apart or at I need to know things one. How do you know about the white room because it was on the podcasts? Oh, they talked talked about it. But I I mean, I've tried a couple of things that I was disappointed, and I don't like the Turkey Bullen as sauce. Really? Yeah. I don't I add salt. Why it's all to everything there. But I that usually pound. Yes, you could definitely make it better. I just felt like it just wasn't everything. I expected it to be for whatever reason to do you make. A lot of recipes with exclusive like exclusively with trader Joe's products. Like, you pair this with this or these three things all the time. So I'm kind of haphazard in the kitchen like I don't really like to follow a recipe. I mean, that's kind of how I am in life to like all see something. Okay. Got it. And then just throw things together. Man. That's kind of how I operate in the kitchen. So a lot of times I'll make something and I'll post it. And then I get a million messages people asking me. Hey, what's recipe? So I'm like, okay, sit back and think about what I just did a handful of this and a slice of that. Yeah. Yeah. And so I've I've also started to try and do more live videos of me cooking. So people can see what I'm doing. And then I'll kind of walk them through what I have. And then it's easier for me to do a recap at the end because I have evidence of what I did evidence. So all right. Do you read the fearless flyer? Yes. I do what do you think of it? What do you think of the writing style? So the funny thing about that is when I started writing my blog posts, which were like really creative back in my county. Days. Sometimes I would open the fearless flyer. And it would look exactly like what I wrote almost to where I felt like someone was what are you saying tasha thing? I know I felt like I was not not being copied word for word. But like you. Polenta being a yellow submarine about to swim to the bottom of your stomach. That was mine. Oh, they left him. You will it was it was put into their fearless flyer. So I don't know if I inspired someone maybe we'll you wrote that beforehand. Yes, they took it from you. So it was not a coincidence. But but their whole writing style is kind of it's very flowery. Yeah. It's just it's entertaining. It is enter -taining all read it and all like, it's usually something on a weekend morning. I'll sit there and like tea in one hand, and I'm circling and just kind of laughing at what they're writing about. It's funny. It's very word. Heavy very copy dense. Yeah. It's kind of neat. Like, I like that. They do that. I know. And then I wonder how many people are reading this like, do you think a lot of people actually read all the copy? They might you never know. There's a lot of very passionate. Trader Joe's fans guests. Well, anything else you'd like to add where else people can find you anything? You wanna talk about that? I have not brought up. Just check on my Instagram at trader list, drop me DM. And you know, I'm I'm always looking to help answer questions if people have them and one thing, I think would be fun would be like go to trader Joe's with you. And and do like shopping hall and see what you buy. And then I can write your hall with me or just with somebody with you. Oh, let's do it. Okay. I'm on board. Do you find? Okay. I had nothing else to ask you. But we have to talk about this because I find that some trader Joe's stores the parking. And just the way the store is situated when I walk in. I just wanna leave like it's so unpleasant one Sinoe. Yeah. You can't you can't really park there. It's like impossible to lake is terrible to. Yes. And the one in studio city studio city is not much better. Yeah. It's charming. It's charming. How bad the parking is every trader Joe's. It's actually one of their podcasts. Subjects is it really? Because the one in Calabasas is the best. There's always like twenty five to seventy five spaces open. You have to check. It up neighborhood. That'll be fun. And do you do you get the little miniature Cup of coffee while you're there sometime? Grab a sample. I always get the samples like go down that. I i'll. Yeah. And and it's funny. The other day they were sampling something that was like, not low calorie. And I was like my going to try this. I'm gonna try this. And then the woman that was working there bets at your hungry girl. I was like I'm not going to try this funny. I can't eat that. But yeah, I love the samples buddy. You see people at their finest trying to reach for the ampoules. If it's a busy day. It's like you see in kind of like people in their cars. They become a different person people. Trader Joe's trying to get a sample. If there's a line. It's avoided. It's it's crazy Joe rage. Yeah. Joe rates. Joe rage. That's really funny. Okay. Well, Natasha thank you so much for joining us. It has been such a treat to chat with you. Everybody should follow her. She is truly the guru of trader Joe's, and we're lucky to have you with hungry land. So thanks for having me in. Okay. There you go. Natasha was awesome. I just I'm so fascinated by that whole world in house just built such a following. I know it's kind of amazing incredible. Yeah. I know I was like that made me hungry. So let's jump right in. Keeping in the trader Joe's theme, we've got three new products that we have found on the shelves of trader Joe's, we're gonna try. We have not tasted these yet. So we don't know if they're going to be good, better indifferent. Nobody knows suspense. So here's what we've got first item for Chillan. These are peel away fruit leather buttons or some people would say buttons, depending on what part of the country. They looked to me like first of all they're buttons that that's true. And they're like fruit leather buttons the have about fifty calories of pack, which is good and they come in. Strawberry, mango, great, mango and mango mango. Mango, mango, if you don't you're screwed pack. The packaging is really cute. And what I like about this. I guess this is mostly for kids. But it's one of those products that like I love products that are geared towards kids that adults can eat the only person that's still every time. They hear the word mango thinks of the character. Chris Catan, you might these are big buttons that well, you know, what they look like me. It's like you remember the candy buttons. I thought that's what they were gonna look like I thought they were gonna little it's like fruit leathers answers to Kenny buttons. But these look more like like big coat buttons, a big coat PICO. What I imagined Paddington would have his. This is I think strawberry mango, hold on like quarter size. I think I've ripped the flavor off. So I don't even know what it must be strawberry, mango strawberry, mango, how many buttons you get one three. Seven. I don't hold on. Taste. Totally ran mangle. Strawberry, mango, great, mango. I have not. Those two things together. I like these. And it's basically there are Ganic gluten free. It's really just fruit puree, and you know, some other natural ingredients and there's eight buttons for fifty dollars. That's pretty good. All right, everyone. Grab a grape your teeth everything sticking on those are kids will like these. That's a fun idea. If you're eating a lot. Yeah. Just keep peeling them and eating them. Okay. We like him. What's your favorite flavor? I only tried these two we have to try. We've got to be thoroughly take our responsibilities mangle mangle, so far like the strawberry. Better are the great great butter. More than like strawberry. So. I kind kinda do to hold on loving wanna try that one. Yeah. Ape? I love grapes. Great show. I always thought he was like a rip off of mcgilla gorilla. Yeah. Grape. I like the mango. So. I like the mango two it's the most pure natch, just tastes like strawberry. I like mangle. I something for everyone. Okay. Let's move these buttons aside what you could do as little time peanut butter in their roll up. Jay button that would be so delicious. We just opened another butter cookie. Nothing. I'm telling you eat those and stick button in the middle of it. Yeah. Okay. What's next next up? We have a condiment of sorts. It's organic creamy cashew fiesta dip cash. Oh, this is like a it's like a fun. Do probably it's like a cheese dip vegans organic and creamy. Let's look, Jamie. What are the stats on? Well, it's pretty low thirty calories for two tablespoons two grams of fat. No sugar two grams of fiber. This is like pretty healthy. It's dairy free cheese dip alternative made of cashews. It's made of cashew with smells someone has already. No, they did it up. Oh, did it up it smells exactly like try it hot caso exactly like case. That's what it's supposed to be. So that's good. I'm gonna try I hot. We've got a good spoonful. Bring it over here. It tastes like vegetable soup to me is like soup. I feel like they forgot to season it. Hm? Chilled. I wanna try chill to it doesn't is like a fee of any kind. I think the problem is is the carrot that we have is so tasty that we're not we can't taste the cheese. I can cities over the carrot. But don't blame the carrot. Don't. I know. I'm not blaming the carrot. I have a feeling. It's just not flavorful enough. Yeah. It's not spiced. That's the I think the texture is good. But if you like I would add cumin to this. It'd be like taco seasoning. And it might be good might like it better. If it weren't billed as cheese alternative. It does not taste cheesy enough to me the ritual. Once it sounded cheese alternative cheese, dip, alternative same thing. No, it's not cheese to be enough cheesy, and it's a little bit of a fondue alternate. But I think it just to me need seasoning. But if you're digging you might like, I think it's a fun don't, but that's. It's a slight miss. But it's almost like so close almost to hit it tastes like thirty calories. Have another button. Okay. Our next item up is going to be a new vegetable thing, which makes me happy. I know bring on the veg very creative spicy Thai eggplant with Thai basil, and you find this in the in the frozen section was frozen. And you just heat it up and a Cup has one hundred calories and just it looks good like a cool veggie option. Right. You get the sauce like a side dish or you could add you could turn this into a center plate entree by adding a little bit of or something. So it's just eggplant basil soya sauce. Garlic. It's pretty simple. I think we have to dig in and delicious because that's the trae. It looks really yummy Jimmy getting into Thai food lately. So I'm going to try this spicy. I see. We'll get your water spicy. Of course. This is the day. Don't have my Perry. That is really hot. I like it. But it's very very very spicy like for. I've never tasted a frozen option. That is the spicy. Holy moly. How could it not say hot and spicy? Where's my water? Oh, it does. It says spicy. All right. Listen on me. Very good liquorice to me like fennel. It does there's absolutely fennel in there, which is weird because it doesn't say there's fennel. All right. If they say that eating spicy food burns calories. You're going to be skinny after eating this dish. I I wish it was a little less spicy. 'cause I really like it. But it's just super hot. Okay. But thumbs up what? Yeah. Yeah. I say, but you have to really like spicy food. And this is a new again new thing in the frozen section, but I would say worth trying better than the cheese dip alternative gas. It's a little it's got a little extra sauce. So I would maybe put like some cauliflower rice or some steamed broccoli with a. Yeah. And chunks of chicken dish. Spicy that. I'm like, I wanna keep eating it, even though I know it's really hot kinda hurts hurts so good. Okay. Well, that wraps up our chew Intel, and guess what it wraps up the episode. So I hope you guys like this episode. Yeah. Definitely let us know if you like the interview format, and what you think you can call Mike and leave him a message at five three eight oh, eight seven five or for the technically sound people eight zero five three eight zero eight zero seven five or you can just Email us at podcast at hungry. Hyphen girl dot com or suggest at hungry hyphen girl dot com, and as always you should be signed up for our daily emails, which you can sign up for at hungry. Dash girl dot com, and you can check us out on Facebook. There's an awesome what's chew in community with like almost forty thousand people to great place to be. So don't miss out on that. 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Pubcast from The Brit and Yankee-Show 302-Trader Costco

The Brit and Yankee Craft Beer Pubcast

32:46 min | 1 year ago

Pubcast from The Brit and Yankee-Show 302-Trader Costco

"We were learning to speak your language fell. Trying to figure out what you're saying bloody hell how about people that put the letter t in the word often. And it's supposed to be son often. There is a letter t in a silent. Do you want some paper to make notes calibration beer? Yeah. Paper would be good. I know it's not Christmas. God bless you. At that beer. I'm going to recall, it'd be oh, I happen. Gory for the last four minutes. A law important, Dan. The Yankee pup studios. Now the Yankee craft beer coast near the pie team. Not allowed to bring the drums in. Let's have a party. Just. David. David. About Jesse James e project. Dick jacobs. Take it away you paying for that. Welcome to the Britain Yankee, polka Phil Clarke the bridge. This is showed number three zero two, and I wanna make something completely clear. Portions of the show recorded head of the recent Chicago Tribune, all by local beer writer, Josh Noel. So once again, we lead the pack in their reviews. Back in may of last year showed to sixty nine studio panel performed a blind taste test on Albie biz. And for mass on the hot lift IPA from third street brewing in cold spring. Minnesota was talk followed closely by Vernice grew Schwartz from Jimmy. Whether or not talk means that it was a good bit leave that up to the listener to decide. Recently. We thought we try the offerings from Cosco provided in a case of four different styles for just under twenty dollars a case. And then we had a couple of trader Joe's bomas brute by Uni brew of Montreal Canada taste is for the Cusco range which full from church street and Ken McMullen from vine Bruin and also joined TJ back walls up church street. Trader Joe tastings me the Brit Phil Clarke made up the threesome on both occasions. There's nothing like a good Menasheh tasting. So listening to our reviews of these brews and get the brick Yankees perspective on these retail offerings. We stopped down at the Britain Yankee pub studios with Ken, and Chuck and that blind taste test on Costco, Croff offerings. And if you wanna get hold of us, send us some suggestions for salt flings and tastings then send an Email to pints at Britain Yankee dot com. We'll get back to you. Shoutout on on the show up. Now, it's back to Costco, bruise with Ken and Phil. As I have you to bid judges in front of me. I wanted to get an opinion on some biz that I've come across and have formed personal opinion on them. And I just wanted to find out from you guys what you thought. So you guys are currently testing them you have four different varieties. And I just want you to kind of take a real stab what you think they the style is number one. You're going to tell us what the style is. Do I have to? Nope. Okay. And see if you can guess because I personally feel that each of them is because I know what they are. Right, obviously, it's easy for me. But. I I want to see whether you guys can can tell what it is. And then just tell me what you think in terms of is it a good one. Is it kind of rough is it smooth? You know, I don't want you to go into the debts of bid judging. But so we'll play a little. Music wall sweet allow you to sample and we'll come back and see whether you'll right? All right. We've we've had enough time few guys sit these biz not a lot of time. Because I think can you said you spend twenty minutes when you're when you're reviewing biz. Right. Well, I mean at least five or ten minutes, and I think we've only had about ten minutes here, and excuse me for burp and up Bearman. Well, that's okay. So let me let me give you a little clue as to the styles, and we'll see whether or not you got it. Right. So being number one was classed as an American pale ale. I got that. Right. Hey, what do you get Hank? I thought it might be an amber ale, okay? Get much hop character in that. Okay. You want to wait and just through the stuff so been number one point to chop. So being number APA. Yup. Bien number two was an India pale. One can no I thought it was just a over happed blind. Okay. So so to nothing hits. Being number three was a Brown ale. Go off the rails. Oi thought it was the Vienna. Amber or red ale because. Okay. Well, anyway, you stuck on that? Amber thing you told me I was wrong with pretty clean how about number three us. All right. Number four big above. Which was a stout. I want. Yeah. Okay. We'll. American porter. So it looks like one on the style effort. Let's have a few more minutes at blue and allow you just assess what told you. All right. I think it's time for us to do the big reveal. So I'm going to pull up the tray of bottles from which I pulled these beverages in a big reveal right usually have a drum row for this drum cop. Them boys. What do you see in front of you now, bottles, Costco, beer, full? Thank you, these four bottles of Kirkland signature. I think they call it. Well, that's. Now, you know who makes this. No, it's put on the bottom of the bottle or on the label rather bottled and brewed by bricks and Bali brewing company Stevens point, Wisconsin. So who do you think is in Stevens point, Wisconsin point point? Brixham Bali is just another name for Steven's point the point bring company who we know and hate will know in love all our lives, depending on how you feel. I'm not a big I have some this. I have some affection for point. Okay. The Mexican place Potter's in downtown Naperville used to have point on tap, really. And my buddy and I used to back in the early nineties. We used to go down to Potter's drink pitchers of point beer. That free time. And the clients of point pardon. At one point there. Veras voted likes best fear in Wisconsin. Or something. Now, I think I think they have a heritage. But you know, I it's fairly decent dumb. I say I just didn't like Stevens point. But they appear to have started to brew these biz. Now that Costco, you can pick up a case of this beer, which is the variety. I forget what is the signature variety. Pat. They have different variety packs in spring. They have different styles. This one I think appeals to the general style of pale India, pal, and then, you know, Brown stout to be more of a hats Windsor style, shall we say? Doesn't quite work while I yeah, I agree. So you can pick this up for nineteen ninety-five for a case. Right. And I said, well, what the hell I might as well. Try it and see what I think. Let's let's kind of off can the American pile. Now, you know, it's an American Pyla. You thought it was an amber what how does it? Right. Just taste. Well. I thought it tasted. Okay. It's to me. I got a slight oxidation in there. But the main thing is that it it just lacks the hops to me. It was all. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was kind of kind of going between the blonde Dale and a pale ale. I just picked pale. But yeah, it could have been a blonde deal. Just, you know, something like training wheels. Beer, some hops in there. It does say on the label refined bitterness plenum multi body, and that describes a few women. There you go. There you go. So we move onto the India paleo now in India, pal Al oversee should reflect a little bit more, business, and my opinion. But also a nice balance with the moon in this one says full-bodied and robustly dry. Hot thoughts care. Maybe robust might be a little bit of maybe too much now exactly robust, but certainly came across. EPA I kind of earth the piney kind of field going on with the certainly there are bigger. I pays in this out there. Well, yeah, we're not talking big IP as we're talking nineteen ninety five cases, full light. We lay bus. Bus bird. Member. If you go back a few shows quite a few shows. Now, we reviewed Aldebe is old eve is and came to the conclusion that the best beer from oldie was a German style. We we did the Schwab spear. But since then some Cicero Dudas, reviewed them and said that the verners Gruner pills now is the best out of the the pack. Right. So that's how we should review. These with the fact that they're not specifically, you know, fabulous biz. But they could be everyday drinking biz for me. What threw me was that? I didn't get hop knows. At all. I got a malt knows on the pal on the Indian PA. And then tasting got strong bitterness. I thought it was slight stringency in there. So what about the brand AOL? Okay. The Brown ale is said dot roasted, imported malt. For me Brown. I, oh, you know should reflect something similar if you will to a Newcastle Brown as it used to be not as it is. Now thoughts on this one Ken. I thought this one might be a red or an amber ale. It's it's it's really not Brown. Let's got good clarity. I think it's forward and now had bready note in there. But yeah, I would never have guessed this to be a Brown because it's just. Threw me off, you know, the clarity threw me off. And then it was it was really he threw through and it was really kind of clean flavor almost like a almost lager. Like, and so that kind of threw me office. So that's why I guess Vienna. Maybe it's a Southam Brown because we're cleaner than the northern. So the last one the stout ale, right, obviously from the Cali you knew had to be something down the the dark and rich and complex is what it says on the label. You you closet as a porter Ken. Yeah. Just you know, the has a smooth roast character to it. Like, bitter roast that kind of threw me. But it's got, you know, hop character to it. I thought maybe it might be an American style. Just. Bitter finish to me. He did it wasn't a smooth finish. I agree. Yeah. So all if you had purchases and were not looking for anything, specifically, great, you know, 'cause when you buy a case of beer for nineteen ninety five, you know, you're looking at something that's one of these macro breweries, and is would Steven's point be considered a macro berry. No they owned by somebody. I don't think. So I think they're I think they're one of those old school regional Burris hanging in there. They're in there. And they're obviously contract burns and stuff. I think they contract rule. Lot of stuff. I think they contact brew berghof peers do they rarely? Oh, yeah. Berghof when business, and I think they're still doing that. So so, okay, I'm just going to ask for general opinion and an thumb position on the overall ones. Which was the one you like the best Ken? It's funny. Out of style. But I think it's the tastiest of these. It's the Brown face the same thing. Really? Really, okay. Is interesting because I liked it. But I again, I grieve with you. It wasn't a Brown. Oh, I didn't. I thought the stout was the tastiest because it had that multi rich toasty nece roasted nece in it. That'd be my number two thing. Yeah. Yeah. The other two were they were. Okay. And so I would say that three out of four these would be a low mobile if you didn't care what you're drinking. But you wanted something with a little flavor. I'd go with it the stout. I'd kind of say, yeah, that's pretty good. You could sit down and joy one of those two. What did you expect from Kirkland? Co branded I expect exquisite. Tell you this. I turn those bottles over and they say each one of them has a best by June of this year date on it. Okay. I would guess if we tasted these in six months, five months, whatever it is from now five months, we're not going to think these are great. But you don't gonna keep a bottle of beer at nineteen ninety five case for flooding. Six months. Yeah. Well, the. We've taken the podcast out for next to tastings. And is the joining factor on this. We came fresh from the studio, Emily. Did we yes we did? And what better place than to try out at trader Joe's offerings than a place as just recently received bitcon exceptional for their Belgian golden ale and sitting next to me as well. Chuck ecorse. Uber involved in that. But we will go DJ with us TJ backwards. How you doing man do an excellent doing excellent look at to try and some Bill Jim beer with you. All right. Well, this is as I say Belgian beer from trader Joe's volume montre, all because this is their audacity and providential Belgian style go now, and they'll is a Abby style Blundell, but they all brew by Uni brew who is out of Montreal Canada. So we have a product of Canada. Now, they both have cool can carry ges. So could you possibly pop the popular call? I'll sure try try. So we had fun. We had fun in the last segment doing the Cosco beers. Right. Well, yeah, I think we decided that. Oh, dude. Say you popped your cool. Medal stealing. I know came out with already, man. So the joining us is Lisa who is owner of church street. Hella lisa. How are you doing today? She so free biz. So she came down. So TJ after you have killed us all with the court. Why does that pop off quite light? That was it because it is generously. Carbonated? Generously. Because I'm not in a bad way. I mean, it's it's it's very effervescent. It's it's appropriate for the style says seven and a half percent, Abby style Belgium, blonde ale and has a nice thick Whitehead on it. And that that quirk was necessary. Probably because it is a is a well carbonated beer it wasn't. It wasn't a gusher show. Yeah. And it wasn't a gusher either. So. So we often hear about biz coming from Canada which higher in alcohol. This one is seven point five the other one we're going to do is cool to Belgian style does anybody know what the abbey style versus the Belgian style means use the abbey means it's now brewed in a monastery if you're hero. Yeah. But well, I guess I guess I don't know. Maybe you can't call it traffic style. Right. Which is which is the problem. Then. Okay. So this comes from trader Joe's as I say, and both of these are actually, I think eight ninety five and one of them had a date of twenty nine teen and the other one had twenty twenty remember which one it will drink in twenty twenty one right now. Okay. We data. Yes. I I I don't know if they're necessary and must be like a best by date or something like that. Then though. Not quite sure. So most of the time. I you see a date on a beer, that's the date. It was packaged. At least. That's that's the way that we do it. I think that's a little bit because it's really hard to give an expiration date with beards not milk into snuck in suddenly curdle, given a X amount of time. You know, you can make some reasonable. Yes. Belgian styles like this they age, really? Well, they go good in your basement or your seller for for a while. So I wouldn't worry too much about the date. I'm doing this one. So how about the how about the aroma of it to start with? I mean, as you say came out with a very Blondel look great creamy soon. I mean it smells like a Belgian miss got that Belgian character in the nose when you smell it. You know, what it is? When you you. The drink the aroma. I mean, which is nice so all in all not bad by for eight ninety five absolutely. Now, do you go to try to judge I'm occasionally? Yeah. Caters there's one kind of near bias. There's a there's a few other places that are that are closer by. So we don't shop there every time. But we do like to check out. Trader Joe's beer selection, though. Okay. Now when you look at me, do I go to trainers. No, okay. Yeah. They I mean, they have got some really good. Visit is under the brand if you will when I think a lot of them Abreu by a company called Joes it Brown, and they've got a reputation for him pretty pretty darn good. You know? You know, traditional ales? If you will they also seem to be great for Fayez of pipe works BS because whenever you go in you're gonna find quite a number of that is in specials on despite think, that's correct. Yeah. I have seen it. I have seen that there as well. I'm t-, by the way, port yourself, some extra. So this one seems to see be quite good. And as you say when you port you're going to be pretty careful because this sucker is going pretty frothy. Having a big headlight? This is not bad for Belgium biz. Oh, absolutely not. No. It makes. I think it's it just brings out the best since it adds a little bit. Like, there's a nice little bit of a creamy note. And here you get the the malt bodies and loss behind all the all the hops in the flavor of the east. I shouldn't say all the hops. It's not a hobby veer. But I'm sure they're in their. Not let them I mean. It's very well balanced. I think carbonation kinda reminds me of a lower AB version of our devils a little bit with a little bit less spice might be different eastern. Yeah. I was gonna say that I didn't know if you had to say that about your own, and you know, I mean when it comes to Belgian beer unless you trying to do something pretty weird. You know? I don't I especially if it's a very similar eastern, which I'm sure it is you're going to get allowed to the same flavors and character. And if it's a well-made beer, then you're gonna you're gonna see those similarities and other similar beers. At you like. I think it'd be place it might place it in the crowd pleaser category matching dummied down. But you know, somebody that really is an aficionado might might wind a little more character might find somebody who's really Belgians. Yeah. And Uni brew is it unique brew Uni brow. No union browse on your face in. It unique brew is just had a celebration. And I want to say it was twenty twenty five years, and they produced vehicle do moment. I think it was something like devil of the world. And it was absolutely excellent really intense high alcohol wolf drinking. So they've so say pedigree is good. All right. Let's put this one to the side and compare to the other one that I came across which is Belgian style and this one is gold providential Belgian style on now. So maybe you're going to get. Popout this one. He I'm counting on it for something to maim in. What should I aim? Lisa. No FEC it hit the center of the ceiling fan. I should be videotape into. Well, here we go. It would go in. All right net quite enough. It had had the right arc but not the right now need a little bit more power. It was a straight line. Jonah with the other one. Yeah. Maybe a little less. That's the thing about quirks. So you only get one shot. So so maybe the only difference in this one is that we have spices. Let us see. Okay. So it says what champion like effervescence and aromatic notes of citrus peel in ginger. This beer is multi miles sweet and Hoppy with subtle spicy, finish it assured. Please the most finicky beer drinkers, doesn't that say exactly what the spices are assuming I guess says notice it just feel ingenious on I'm taking that as admission. I guess are you guys finicky? Sure. Deplete the most finicky I'd take that as a challenge. All right. So Lisa's come over for a free sample. How did you? How did you like the first one? I liked it. I mean, it tastes. It was good. But I think there's something about the end of it that just kind of flattened out teachers said it was a devil's advocate light. Okay. What's the seven point five? So it is like. And now we have one here which has spices in and as we determine we not quite so we haven't determined really. We don't spice is all. But I'm going to assume that it's going to be the usual. I'm going to assume just based on the label that it's ginger in orange peel, ginger and Orangeville these spices gingy. Technically, call it. I j did you can be pretty pretty overbearing if if it's if it's done too much. I'd say sure we go the right one. I don't touch any difference to the end the womb. For sure you might have. So on the leasers pointed out on the front that says ale brew was spices on lease now that could be French for something. But I don't know what it is my high school French doesn't quite get that or it could be something to do with the guy called Lee. And they said, okay Lee, this one's on you fell in the in the brute cattles. A friend of mine died from falling into a VAT of wine, you know, took him three days to die because he had to keep getting out the go to the bathroom. So I'm going to have to wait for that one. So so tell us what have you found out about this one? Well, he's busy googling googling here. So it's a for interpreting this correctly when I when I type in on lease a whole bunch of winemaking stuff comes in. So it's it's more of a winemakers term. And what it says are what our wine lis lis our leftover yeast particles from Telesis, which is the self-destruction e cells by enzymes created from fermentation as strangers. This may seem lease are used in white and sparkling wines to Ed beneficial texture texture in flavor. So I noticed about the texture that I thought it was a little fickle little smoother less carbonated. Definitely less carbonated in the previous beer, I'm assuming these are. I thought is that these are bottle conditioned. So they might have just gone a little bit less with this one or could just be a slight variation in the bottle based on. Yeah. Do do you have anything on the Baltimore the bottle on the bottom? Nasc? You would say the good stuff the bottom. You know? Is there any is there any use the bottom? It's hard to tell. I see a few floaters. Yeah. I see why see some of the most looks like like, dense fog, even it's this down at the bottom. It's like a runny globs, not solid glove. Runny globes. Hey, that's a great good name for beer. Yeah. Does that? And then he got down. Then you go to picture of a guy with running nose runny stock that anyway back to this one. Again, this one is 895 from trader Joe's, do you think there's a difference? Both pretty good. I mean, you can tell there's something in here. That's not Hobson. Byerly insulin's here's something that there. It's hard to. I can't really tell what it is. Really don't know. So out of the two if you had to choose well, first of all would would you give a thumb in some directions them? I give them voted thumbs. I like the first one whatever whatever spy, whatever combination of spices. They did add into the second one. You know, normally, I'm I'm kind of a purist. When it comes to my my Belgian beers in my traditional styles. I think that the the east has a good enough job making the spices on its own that I usually don't want anything extra added. But they did a really good job doing it in a subtle way. That isn't overpowering at any one way or another. It has a nice little extra dimension to the beer. So I think they did a really good job with it. Yeah. I don't think builds and folks are really that traditional anyways. They want other stuff to be original. So you know, and good and good which it mostly don't wanna be categorized. So so I think we go to big thumbs up for these to purchase system. Trader joe's. And I believe that Josh Noel is as we recall this one, I think he is just published a article with respect to some of the other biz from Audi which we did. Way back on things show two six nine. We did Audi and we did a blind taste test on that one. Anyway, it seems like the Cusco twenty dollar if we can sum up if the goal go twenty dollar case bit varieties are okay. If you don't expect right. You getting twenty bucks twenty four balls for twenty bucks. I thought the stout was pretty good. The rest of them would just so so I think and we kind of agreed on that. I know Ken Ken Ken liked pretty much the same as we did. But you had trouble distinguishing between Ambos pale ales PA's. Brown ales. Thought maybe I was wrong. I thought that you had given us pale that was actually an amber, no the other way round. I did I gave you everything that was in the case, I go back and listen to the first, and it's overall, I guess doesn't compare. Of course, Joe devil's advocate, and I think those I think those guys down in Florida Bauer monks wanna do co lab with you. So we should talk off to this. Let's pick up glosses and say, well, thank you trader Joe's, and thank you, Costco. We've got to show. Cheers. Cheers. Oh, chuck. Good night for me. And it's good night from him. See got him trained now through good. All right. Okay. That's your bloody great. Okay. I think we need some more chicken suit. Oh, that's right. I know the the Britain Yankee pub kitchen supplied chicken soup, right delicious. Good, and it's good for your health too. Right. You gotta. John. But. But point.

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28: The Best Of Trader Joe's Episode

Hungry Girl: Chew The Right Thing!

42:15 min | 2 years ago

28: The Best Of Trader Joe's Episode

"Hungry. I'm so hungry. Hey, everyone. How are you today? It's me. Lisa Lillian, also known as hungry girl. I am here at hungry land with Mikey and Jamie. We're back. We all exciting day-to-day. Why don't guess I'm gonna tell you. We have a first best of podcast. It's exciting. It is thanksgiving is next week. I'm thankful. One thing. I am thankful for is. Trader joe's. Yeah. We're all thankful for trader Joe's. We have a trader Joe's thanksgiving you probably five five days in a row of thanksgiving's. But to help with your holiday season, we decided to put together a best of podcast of all of our favorite. Trader Joe's moments from the podcast so far. I love it because we often will do three or four chew Intel reviews in an episode. And now we're going to you don't have to fast forward and. Rewind. We're going to give them to you all in one place. It's true. And we have had to trader Joe's episodes. If you haven't listened to those you should go back, and listen, of course, today, we're just going to mix it up and make it the best of TJ's exciting. Can't wait. I know. I can't wait either. A good job. Mike is all to you. This is all on me, my idea now, it's all on me. No pressure. But you do have some news for us. Right. Do. All right. Trader Joe's has announced via their podcast, which they have one. In case, you didn't know they were few new items that they're launching this holiday season. We're not sure when they're coming out. But when they do we end Lawley will be trying them. Now, you ask why Lally right because trader Joe's is coming out with an advent calendar for dogs. My God come with twelve different dog bones. This four. The best news. I've heard all day. And so we don't know if it's going to be twelve so the last twelve days leading up to Christmas or twenty four starring December first, we don't know yet chair does, you know, they're secretive. They don't let us know when anything happens, they just appear in the store, and then we know they happen. So when they do Lawley is going to have a review for every day for us. Right. Absolutely. No pressure Lally. Is this the first Adleman calendar for docs, probably have to do some research. But probably that's big news. Yeah. There's more. Okay. So besides the haven't counter for dogs. They're going to have I'm gonna say this wrong, boo shade day Noel ice cream that right? It's like those ice creams that look like logs like you cut rates like a log, and you cut it open. There's like different flavors. No like with bread. Like, I have no idea. What shading Noel ice cream is? But it looks like a log, and you cut it open and there's like different it's almost like ice cream. Yeah. I've seen ice cream logs. I didn't know they had a fancy French. Attempted temp that from shade data. Well, and translates to you log. Oh, that's great. You go could be wrong. All right. Well, keep going now. This is what I'm most excited about Turkey and stuffing potato chips. That's incredible potato chip tastes like Turkey and stuffing. They stole that from lays. They do lays does all the chicken and waffle. Really? Okay. That's okay, though. No, that's the thing to do. Now. It's like, they're MAC and cheese, candy canes and rotisserie chicken, candy canes. You know, who started all of this Jones soda? Oh, yeah. They had those crazy soda packs. Every year. I don't know if they still do it. But they had the holiday like the head thanksgiving soda gravy flavored and Turkey flavored cranberry sauce flavored. So everybody's just jumping novelty though, they don't really expect to eat those things do they. I mean, I don't I don't know. I know I would love sandwich with potato chips and Turkey and stuffing and cranberry that'd be good. That sounds delicious. I would try to potato chips. Yeah. Me too. Rice cauliflower stuffing organic cold pressed spiced cider a mouthful shelf. Stable Turkey gravy, this is when I actually don't like scallops. But I might try this bacon, wrapped scallops. And then the, of course, was about one hundred and fifty to two hundred new holiday products that they're going to display anytime. Now, I'll my goodness. Yeah. So it's great. It's awesome. All right. Well, let's just jump into the best of. This is our first live taste test. So exciting couldn't be more excited. Especially since there's a theme. The theme is trader Joe's. Everybody loves trader Joe's people with reason. Yeah. With good reason. They have so much. Good stuff. They're always coming out with new foods that they're right on the trends, so very very trendy and very concerned about like being healthier too, which is great and also being less expensive. Which is why the world is obsessed with trader Joe's. So we have three things from trader Joe's that we're going to try the first thing is going to be Kung Pao Tempera Holly flower or cauliflower, depending on who you at Hawley Cawley. Holly flower, call collie flower. So this is a swap for compel chicken. Yes. Compound chicken has about five hundred calories and twenty six grams of fat for a lot of order, and that's like nuts. That's a small order you go to the Chinese restaurants. Thousands of calories in ridiculous amounts of fat. But a Cup of this. Has one hundred and fifty calories and six grams of fat, and we're gonna try it now not that so digging. Okay. So the idea here is that it's breaded like the chicken has sweet sauce. So first thing I wanna note is that it's I don't know the serving size. It says their six servings in that bag and depressed when we look at that. I think it's more like three servings just looking at it. But that means each Cup is one hundred and fifty calories. So those six serving so what does that make the bag one fifty three four fifty nine hundred calories for the bag? Okay. I'm gonna bite in. Tastes amazing. It would be spicier. It's good good. As chicken because they're texture expecting that. Like, you know, chicken it's like chewy a little bit. And this you right into the cauliflower. But by the way, this is not it's not really trying to be chicken because it's big hunks cauliflower, which just explained to the audience, but it's delicious, it's breaded cauliflower with this compound sauce, and it is a good calorie saver, and it does taste as it is really good sauce. It's all about that sauces. Perfect. But I would probably eat half that back and that would be four hundred and fifty calories still better, but six grams of fat per serving. The heat is our totally do that with some fried rice. It'd be flour rice cauliflower. A little crazy. And so this is in the frozen section, right? Yes. It comes frozen. I like it. I feel like you could definitely I don't wanna say you could fool the family. You could please the fans least them. Okay. Next thing. We are going to try the next. Swap from trader Joe's. This is new. It's been all over the internet. It's spicy cheese. Crunchies? Oh, I've heard of those everybody's talking. He's actually a swap for hot like flaming hot Cheetos, right, which I don't really eat those. I can't wait. Because I the reason why I don't eat those is because like I feel like oh, they're off limits. Like, I'm hungry go. I'm not supposed to be eating flaming hot Cheetos. But now there's an excuse. And these have one hundred thirty calories as serving. They're seven servings in this bag. There's no way this thing. Seven occasion. Let's see Jamie's opening it. I'm the anticipation is driving me. So it's seven servings of real ones have one hundred seventy calories in eleven grams of fat these have a hundred and thirty calories. Six grams of fat, they smell cheesy. So wait. Away from her. I don't his it bad to admit huge. I don't think I've ever had a regular flaming not Lehman hawk. I could lie and tell you I never ate a Cheeto. I have knees are way better. I gotta tell you. I would crush those up and put them all over the country. How cauliflower wow, it would be like a that would be spicy because these are spicy. They are spice as a really they're so good. Mike's gonna take that back. I need a pallet cleanser I love the the regular Cheetos like the Joe's faked Cheetos that they make already. So this is like an extra added bonus to this. This is amazing. I say yes to those. And they don't they don't seem greasy. They're baked not fried and they're made with real cheddar and savory spices. Unlike I think, there's probably some questionable ingredients and those regular Joes regular Cheetos. Yes, certainly they turn your fingers. Bright, aren't right. That's true. Let's minor. Minor pale orange now, we only eight one. So it's true. I don't wanna make any promises. Okay. Thir-? Trader Joe's Walker trying freeze dried banana slices and I have to say banana chips were like the food faker of the seventies and the eighties and possibly even part of the nineties because people would always fool themselves into. Taking that banana chips were low in calories and fat, and they were basically fried food there fakers. Yeah, they are. So they have about four hundred calories. Twenty five grams of fat for a serving vis have no fat and only one hundred and fifty calories for half that bag. So let's try them. I love I love them. Or are you getting giving Lally one, but she doesn't like regular bananas. There's no added sugar on this nothing. No, they're so sweet. Because they they let me see I would like to reconstitute. These put them in ice cream or yogurt or oatmeal specially selected variety of banana grown only in Thailand, Mike is raising his arms in the air. Like he has the best idea in the world go for it chocolate ice cream, the powdered peanut butter and these bananas gather mixed together. We're not just going to sprinkle the powder. Peanut butter iced coffee that ice can just invented. I'm just invented. I like those. I would definitely eat these. And according to the bag and bags never lie. It says the most discerning of banana is used in this. And it says I don't understand. Why? Wait. No, I'm sorry. Wait now. Now, I see that. This is a hyphen that looks like a period, but it's not the most highly discerning of banana loving monkey would flip for these sweet, crunchy treats. So we're supposed to like these because monkeys will love them. Not just any monkeys the deserving monkeys the most highly discerning of banana loving than I well aren't all monkeys banana loving. I wanna know who writes the copy at traderjoes I wanna meet the person who wrote that on the next episode. Discerning, mikey. It's almost the same thing actually as much as I say, I don't really like chocolate and fruit, I've always liked chocolate covered frozen, fruits and trader Joe's my favorite. I'd had these before these are gone bananas. They're like little banana coins covered in chocolate. A little monkey on the on the box. Lucky you gave them. I can't even open this. Somewhere. They're nice. I know this is dangerous. So they make them in. They have gone very crazy with dark chocolate covered strawberry pieces and gone bananas. And these guys look it's like riffing the bite sized version of a chocolate covered bananas. The texture on. These is outstanding. These are like eight plus plus plus plus perfect. It's great. So I get four of these for hundred twenty calories and six grams of fat, I feel like that would be really sad. I really really love. What about the berry version berry bet it will be good? But I'm not as much of a chocolate or newer. They are are you guys this raises a question if you pull out one of these they're all stuck to each other. Does it still count as one piece? I'll take my hands are clean. Okay. These are better than competitors. Know what it tastes like it tastes like chocolate covered. Sorbet doesn't taste like a frozen strawberry. Really? I love these four many get and they have a bunny. I don't know why how many of these get four. No, wait. Oh my goodness. Six pieces for hundred calories. That's a huge difference. Well, how many how many servings? Okay, the whole four. So if you eat this whole bag, it would be one hundred hundred calories. Okay. Don't what he'd have the bag for two hundred probably a great use of two hundred calories. Yeah. Well, I love that. Holy moly. Trader Joe's is the place to go the sugar. Russia's hitting me. Right. There's more. So you'd better boy. It's not we go. We got. Dinner plans. These are so cute. I can't handle it Idi bitty hold the cone many ice cream cones look, oh with we are they are they with chocolate ice cream. So you may have heard of these the traditional many hold the cone ice cream cones come with vanilla. Okay. So this is a cone. It's about three inches tall. It's like a cute little cone. And it looks like it's got like a little chocolate topping like when you go to Dairy Queen and get the chocolate top. Yeah. That's exactly what it looks like let's say bite. How many calories? See why do they do this three cones equals two hundred sixty calories? Three cone. I think that's like Saudi wonders nobody's eating three of these. Well, it's definitely less than a hundred. It's like less than less than ninety. Eight. I'm good at math. I would eat three of these out. Eat one eight eight point six eighty six CS even better eighty seven calories. I would eat that. That's good fun. Are we done yet? Nope. Check this out. Oh, these are is scream bon-bons. I always say like, what are you staying home and just saying home and eating bon-bons, then think? Actually, like a real thing that people are they're making a comeback. These look so good. So these are white with chocolate cookie crust. So it's like vanilla ice cream with a cookie bottom odd dipped in dark chocolate charge small. I don't know how many calories each because that size. They should be about sixty one. Bon Bon is sixty Cal. Like the four grams of fat. Mike, Mike is double fishing. Oh my God. We have to take a picture of this. I have it all. For your own the chocolate, drip down. Okay. You know? What I like about portion control sixty calories, really rich. They're great. Oh my God. Like these Lisa is getting don't move. No almost got a picture. I. I'm so mean. No, this is so good. All right. We love you guys handle one more. I don't know. All right. These are chocolate vanilla French macaroni, luscious Lee, French very chocolate and very vanilla Macarena frozen frozen. Macaroni McCotter on fancied. I I didn't. I thought these are really frozen. Yeah. For sure unless someone dropped them in the freezer rial how they're beautiful weight and they come in. I like I want to try the vanilla when he shaved Pinella episode. We're not gonna have been L episode. All right. You try the high. We'll read the stats, by the way, real quick even open Joe to the bomb of my cone witch got shot at the bottom. Glad you made it so the dot them. All right here. Try all right. Here's the story with these guys. They're traitors jocks friend macaroni, three pieces. One hundred ten calories. Actually, really good for thirty five calories each we have to put all of these up somewhere book and see that the texture on these is out of this world. It's weird though. Because you don't need to have these frozen sound like there's ice cream in the middle. It just makes it nice in Chile and chewy lose meant to be frozen. It would be funny. If we accidentally says keep Rosen until you eat them. No. It doesn't supposed to serve them frozen. Refrigerate after opening. Yeah, they're not. They're not keep them for all that time. Then it says keep frozen. You looked set me so much. I'm trying vanilla ones frozen. Okay. Wait. I'm reading further. It says these love little pastries our best after they've defrosted for about thirty minutes. I take issue with that. Because I think they're really good frozen. All right. Jimmy Mack discovered. Something new those are great on purpose. Speaking of things I like. There is something that I love another trader Joe's by why is it that everything that I love and that we talk about every week. It's from trader Joe's. They're so good at what they do. It's like heaven on earth place. My mom went there for the first time last week. What she did. I know she loved it. They just get him out in her area. Or maybe she just didn't know I feel like she just didn't grow up with it. And didn't have it in our neighborhood when we were growing up. So anyway, I'm digressing the product that I love so much is the everything, but the bagel. Seasoning at traderjoes the maze. It's it's it's life changing. I know I've said life-changing already in this episode. But it really really is. It's like if you just put a tiny bit on a spoon and aided alone. I know that sounds weird. But it tastes like you're eating and everything bagel, and you can make anything that you're eating everything bagel. Whether it's like a bowl of steamed broccoli or colleague flower Massey's or you can make our little bagel bites which are really low calorie. But where you can put it on chicken on salad smoked. In lettuce cups for making it tastes. Like, you're having everything big exam and put it put it on cucumber slices bread with cream cheese. I've put it on hardboiled egg whites. I always it on heart. Sprinkled it on my cell shamed. I because it tastes good on everything because it's good. So in the hardboiled egg whites put a little bit of either like cream cheese. Sometimes I get that like Scallon like. So low fat cheese. And I sprinkle that on it. It's so, and I I hate it for like four seconds until it's perfect. It's the best. And by the way in case, you can get it on Amazon to it's it's called something else. And it's really good. So you can one click it on Amazon or you can make it yourself that. That's once we figured out how to do that. I was happy because some people are like I don't wanna go there. I don't wanna buy it. Trader Joe's near the right? Exactly. So how do you make it yourself to use white and black sesame seeds a little bit of dried minced onion, poppy seeds, garlic and salt. That's it. That's it done brilliant Dunn's. Oh, and you too can have everything, but the bagel seasoning. So you don't have to go to a bagel shop getting everything bagel and like scrape off all. All right. Well, I really wanted to jump into some of the things that we know and love that can help build meals like things that you need to have around that can just make you feel like a chef this is the thing about trader Joe's the stuff that I have that's either pre made or comes in a bag and sits in the freezer with just a few simple ingredients can make you feel like you're like this master chef right? It's true. You feel that way to -solutely? We're gonna talk about some of these things that we just had Mike, and I have dinner this week. So. Yeah, same. I mean, I'm constantly trader Joe's stuff for lunch bringing it here having it for dinner, and the thing that impresses me so much is there produce isle and all of the very clever options that they have here. So like for starters like I love the salads. I mean, I feel like an I'm salad. You know, I go nuts for good salad. But I feel like some supermarkets nave a lot of kits and they have a lot of pre made salads. And they're not that good. Good. There's not like a lot of good options. So many good one. They have great options. My favorite is the southwest salad. It's like the greatest, but what I love about the tritter Joe salads. When you flip around the packages it gives you the stats for the salad and then the dressing. So you know, like a lot of the time the salad itself has like two hundred and something calories in the dressing. We'll have one fifty or something to put it over the top. So you know, you can make the choice to either use part of it or use a different dressing. And that is so helped whoever's idea that was give that that team member raise because that was a great idea. And and like addition, I love the southwest salad. But they have a great Greek salad. They have what are some of the other? So that you've seen that that you like personally, but returnees? Oh, yeah, they do. Right. And and you can a lot of times the ingredients are separated. So you can use whichever ones you want, and you can leave off the ones that you don't. So I use the salad to help build a bigger and better salad. So I like to pair a lot of stuff with the salad. They regarding vegetables Selva. They have a Mexican salad. That's really good. They have kale salad with white meat chicken and broccoli Slaw. Like, they're they're very, very and speaking of creativity. A lot of the stuff that they have in that produce aisle is just ridiculously creative. Like, they have something called the cruciferous crunch collection. Just fun to say to you say that collection cruciferous crunch collection. Two three cups only have thirty five calories. So to me, I'm thinking, I can eat that whole bag and be so full and just I dunno be super excited because I use it. It's kale Brussels sprouts, broccoli green and red cabbage. So you can use it to build a salad or add to your salad or you can actually throw it in a Skillet and cook it up with any kind of protein, and it is so satisfying. And all the hard work is done for you. It's true. And I feel like I there was regular coleslaw mex-, then there was broccoli coleslaw extra through really creative. This is like a new slumming because it's all shredded totally I love those laws. Do you? Eat those laws might no. But I will. But I also just thought about because sometimes I'll put some veggies on my pizza like my aunt make a pizza that would go great on a pizza. Not not you know, you have to put it in like towards the last couple minutes of bacon. The pizza. It totally quickly to because it's shredded it's not like big hunks. Yeah. It's it's just great and very very creative. But also another creative product, which I just saw a few weeks ago for the first time, they have organic smoothie, juicing and salad greens blend in a bag genius genius. Because I know so many people who are like, I don't really know how to make a green smoothie, I never know. Exactly what to pick and what to use and how much do use and this bag the whole bag has thirty calories. So you just throw that bag spinach. Couple of kinds of kale and beet greens and the whole bag only has thirty calories. There's no way I would ever by all those things individually and put them in a smoothie. So the fact that they put that all in one bag. It's so helpful very, but it's it's clever the way they do that. And I love the marketing and the best part is that it's inexpensive. So you would think for all that extra work that it would cost so much more. But I think people really love trader Joe's because everything is so affordable. And the thing that you love Jamie, the healthy. Eight chopped veggie mex-. Yes. Can I tell you how discovered it lease? I was visiting a friend, and I always liked to go to the grocery store and get a few things to stock of my aunts. I'm not eating all of their food. And I grabbed that and it was perfect because it's like go anywhere veggies. You can put it in your only can put it in a salad kind of the same thing super versatile, and it saves you so much time because what's chopped in their broccoli carrots. Green cabbage red cabbage hickama green bell, pepper, radish and celery, and it's all like chop chop chop. It's like if you like chops Allen e little piece of love this. I'd love child, Sal, cutting my own salad. Is that weird? No, I need. There's yes, make sure that nobody at home thinks they're just regular scissors because that happens with me. I use regular scissors. Oh, I have special salads. And I don't use them. Use good old fashioned, regular scissors. To cut their might there. My dedicated I have a separate t-shirt cutting. This is my salad scissor nooses. Yeah. That's true. I don't I always hate. When like I see somebody at home using like, my box, cutting knife to date or I shouldn't out. My husband like that need a label maker. I know we just labeled that knife yesterday. It says box opening knife now hopefully that won't happen again. Okay. I love poultry poultry is probably my go-to protein more than anything. I love seafood too. I love beef. But poultry is the most consistent Lee eaten thing in my world. I'm just really glad you've never be friend at a chicken because you have a habit of anytime, you meet an animal you wanna stop eating it. She's right. If I ever meet a chicken, we all are pig or do you not eat four she stopped eating pork for a while. Because I met a pig. But then the I I don't wanna go into it. But let's move onto the chicken. If I if I become friends with chicken is a good chance, I'm gonna buy it overall. It's gonna come to office and be my friend never eat chicken again. But until that happens, I eat chicken almost every day. And some of my favorite chicken comes from trader Joe's, the one thing I want I want to single out. I the grilled chicken fajitas. Would we actually have? Yes, we do so good. We actually not knowing we're gonna do this in this episode had them last weekend. And they were so good. So tell people what this is first of all the smell is incredible. This the best. Restaurant seasoned chicken, you could find. So it's premade all white meat beautifully sliced chicken breast with a lot of different veggies. There's onions and peppers all the heat of veggies that you could ever dream of seeing in your heater plate with fantastic seasoning. It's so thickly season. There's like a hint of citrus tiny ended of lime and then all of the seasonings, you can just taste everyone of them, it tastes so fresh and these are found in the refrigerator section if you have not tried these please, please please remember to go to trader Joe's and get them. A third of the package has two hundred ten calories and it's so much veggies. It's everything I love about the heat is and nothing. I don't like it's all the healthy stuff. I agree veggies. Tons of chicken tons of flavor. But no cheese or sour cream. Maturity is it's like the the meat and potatoes, the chicken and the veggies. But you could I got some jobs for Titas in made made. You know regular but Jamie, put him on on her salad. I just had that little while ago. I put it on my salad like that's how I usually these. We can put them in lettuce cups. So you make little lettuce fajitas. And that is a great thing to and that package has three servings. And I think it's a realistic three servings. Normally, I'm like that's one serving I guess you could eat into. But usually I do get three servings out of that. So that impresses me as well. We got to and there was a little leftover. And then after we ate we both looked at it and just took the package back to the couch and Seth there and finished in shit. Now, I wanna talk about something that literally rocked my world when I discovered it a few weeks ago, it's the natural Asian ground chicken. Now, here's something that you just don't really find supermarkets ground chicken, raw that's already seasoned and ready just to go into the Skillet just to be cooked to made into patties used. However, you wanna use it. It's really int-. And I think we have this here for tasting to also by the. Way. Usually when I see ground chicken. I think this is changing. But it used to be that you think it's healthy think it's lean and it's like it's like not just pure chicken breasts. It's like a little heavier. This is Leanne. Yeah, this is pretty lean. But I know I'm I'm still skeptical about a lot of ground poetry. But this you can tell this is chicken breast because it's not you can tell it's not dark. You can tell that. It's just chicken breast. But the thing that impresses me the most about this is the flavor it let's try this right now. I'm excited for this. When Aaron was cooking up. She was like you gotta smell it. First of all Erin sounds. You taste the ginger, you taste, the soy. It's lightly. Sweeten? A flavor burst. Well, think about all the things you can do. I would love to make lettuce cups out of this. Incredible burgers, life-changing Asian tacos. This is going on my salad. We'll change. Again, natural Asian ground chicken cooks in about five to seven minutes. You can do so many things with it for answers have only one hundred forty calories. This is the best thing. I've tried all day. Yeah. This is like it's special. This is and this is why I love trader Joe's because you're not gonna find this at your local market. This is something. That's so unique. Again, you feel like a chef you serve this your family. They see you taking raw chicken making building something out of it. And then you don't even have to season it, it's done. You know, what I love about this episode is I can take some of the stuff that we talked about from the produce Eyler the freezer Staples and put them with these proteins like it's so easy to ingredients. You've a meal mixing and matching. It's like grandma's. Remember rannells, you know, the clothing that you just mix and match and be able to wear everything together, you can grandma allies everything from trader Joe's and make it a best meals imaginable, or do you guys like corn dogs, and who doesn't like corn knocks stick? It's battered and corn dogs. I'm actually hoping because we're trying. That there are two in there. So you guys can show one and I can have the other one for myself. Do you think we have to prepped? I don't know we are going to try them. But these Turkey corn dogs. The reason why we love him so much only a hundred and fifty calories. Not even how much fat is in those. I think we have a box with all the stats on them. Guys, have four and a half grams of fat, nothing not bad. I mean, I do eat the MorningStar corn dogs BIC razor, amazing those are vegetarian. But this if you want the real thing if you want meet this is a great option. Microwave is if you put them in the oven. Great you can't new that's the thing. I really wanna candle to to you guys can if from an a bite into this. You guys are going to care if it has germs on it. But what I'm saying is I'm gonna bite this. Then you can have this one this one out. Go ahead. Get one, gene. Ketchup. And I don't need them. Does the mustard. I don't know why there's catch up, but there's most who puts. Who puts on it eating. This would put ketchup them. No barbecue sauce grows. The smiles on their very full faces right now. Did you just call a spat faith? They're both. Who'd there's nothing like a corn dog. That's plus plus plus plus plus, plus, okay, I feel like I'm at a carnival. We see it look so happy you're like blowing this is like wedding day. Leeson her corn dog or giving delicious. Honestly, if you have kids or even if you don't this is the perfect food to share with your child, truly. I don't wanna double dip the you can doubled up. I'm not eating any measure. She's just posing with town selfish, and this fellow you can even eat this only had one bite, Mike if you eat both of those where not a dollar. I'll give you a dollar. Cavallet dinner. All right. What a good snack. And you it just makes you happy. I dare anyone to try one of these and not smile. It's not gonna happen. We should we should start. The corn dog challenge. Go to trader Joe's good hashtag corn dog challenge and take a bite and not smile after. Can't do it can't be done. Okay. Moving onto chips. And snacks. We love this. I really have to be honest. I try not to eat too, many chips or like crunchy snacks because I can't control myself if I ever feel myself getting out of control, it's about one thing. It's chips. It's snacks. So I almost feel like it makes me feel weird when I'm around a bag of the stuff, but I have to single out some of the things that I love, and then I have found and then also tell you a funny story because the trader Joe's world's puffy, est. White cheddar corn puffs which by the way, best best. Best name for any snack. Food of all time. World's puffy est is in the Guinness Book of. No. That is not a superlative. I would want in my yearbook. Jamie Goldman we're old puffy as senior. No. But no, I don't know what you're right though. It's not like the world's most delicious, the world's cheesiest. It's just puffy, and they looked like pirate's booty on steroids. So imagine like you love pirate's booty pirate's booty is like it's almost like a modern day slash healthy cheesy. Poof, kind of thing like a cheese doodle like a little round cheese doodle, and these are tremendous and the bags are tremendous. The problem is I have a mocking alive eaten like the whole bag in a twenty four hour period. And there are a lot of servings. But two point five cups have a hundred thirty calories. I think that may be seven servings in the back, but that's a really good portion for a snack like usually chips. It's like, you know, I know and then my dad who so cute he's in his eighties. He came to visit probably a couple of months ago, and he found these in my house and proceeded to eat the entire bag like like an at like some. Kind of crazed animal he'd his hand in the bag to his face until the whole bag was gone. And then he fell in love with them. And located a local trader Joe's in Denver where he lives and for his birthday. We bought him. I think eleven bags can we please post the picture of your dad's sitting in a chair covered in bags of world puffiness, cheddar. Puffs? We will post this picture it's worth where are they going to find this picture? Oh, well, they can go to Hungary dash girl that com slash food cast and click on the trader Joe's episode to you see that. That's where you'll find it. Nacho cheese, tortilla strips Nacho cheese. They're just like Doritos only, they're healthier, and they don't have MSG and you can eat fourteen chips one hundred and forty calories. These are in my pantry nonstop constantly, always by two. When I go there, Mike, he state. I can't I have to have them in my pantry. How long did the bags last you two days longer than that depends on what I'm away because I like to have my meal, but it, but I could definitely kill. Half a bag in one sitting. These e this is vise hungry Rolla center. So you have to push them out for me. I pushed him out like, I know what my trigger foods are these are all trigger foods for me. I portion them out or just avoid them altogether. But the next snack people are going absolutely bonkers over these. These are the Bumba peanut snacks. We are here. Ready to try them live for you could eat forty one hundred sixty hours there elephants on the package. Hold on a we don't know if somebody snacks. Yeah. I don't know. Somebody beat us to it. This is three serving that's bad. Because yesterday, I had a bag the size that had five surgeries peanut butter or peanut. So they look like cheese doodles. So there's shape of like a true cheese doodle and instead of being covered with cheese. They're covered with like peanut butter. Hold on. Lighten airy dangerous. I would eat that whole bag. No, no added sugar. They are perfect. That's great. That's almost peanut butter almost good. You know, what I would do is one of my things that I would dip them in peanut butter. Josh that's out of control forty of them. I would sit there and count forty for one hundred sixty calories hopefully worth it. It's worth it. But what I like about it. Because Jamie, as you mentioned, no added sugars, you don't have that desire to keep eating eating. They're not overly salty and they're not overly sugary. So they're not as a dictator as they could be honestly, okay? We have another snack to try the baked Chiro bites. These are heavy well, those they should because they're bigger. And so you get nine pieces for hundred twenty calories. But these are like Charles you'd find it a carnival got only Jamie lost Jamie lost her microphone poof, they smell so good. So hold on. These are like carnival tros. Wait. So what? So we'll we have one first and then other Vic. Crazy, very. Here's what you do. You have a carnival day. You have the corn dog as your meal. And you have this dessert. That's smart. I would put this in a cereal bowl and put milk over it. That would be dangerous you crunch it up crushing up put an Israel. But think about if you had a Chiro from the carnival and let it sit out an air dried it for like three days. That's what this tastes accept. It. Doesn't taste dirty? It tastes clean. Really good. So delicious that whole bag. You get like nine pieces y'all hundred twenty. It's exactly what you get spectacular. I'm pieces. Yeah. That's a lot. Yeah. They're nice is trader Joe's doesn't only have things for humans. You know that right? We're all pet owners here. We can talk talk Turkey. It's true. They had a cat and dog treats. And I have to say my Lolli who was not only an avid podcast listener and the hungry girl mascot, she carefully makes appearances here on this show. And she was asking begging if you will to see if she could review the begging treats for dogs. So these are their liver flavored begging treats reduction, they're freeze dried and Lally loves them. And she wanted to tell you all about how she feels about them littering. Littering? I'm here with my review. I really like trader Joe's things for people. But God's too my favorite favorite treats. I tried a call begging treats. Coming right by LA. Like, I don't know why they're begging treats out that right? I beg for treats. I get them less often than when I'm just that good girl, and I'm getting a treat. So I disagree with the name. Now that Matthew is really good Liden area. And crispy and a case like lever away jive alien joy. And they're different from some other traits which have very high these very easy to. So they're not dental treats, I don't really serve any other pet base bat. Just guessed which I appreciate okay. That's my review. Thank you traded. Larry, hugh. Thanks lawley. Very thorough review. Spend than we are. We should have her host. Knicks speaks really well. Like better than me. And she has good taste. So those liver tweets are great like I do feed her and also the cat of freeze dried version of the chicken. But the ones from trader Joe's or liver flavored and they're harder to find and she loves them. So if you have a dog out there, and you wanna give your dog, you treat. That's a good option for you. Do do you guys have a dog that eats treats trader Joe's penny. I haven't bought her treats from shooter drills yet. But maybe I should because I did look when I went there last time, and they do have a really good section. So I should check it out. Try these deliver treats Lawley. So so gotta follow Lally. Wow. That was a lot of products. I feel like I hope we're putting together a great page a show page for this right for sure. Okay. Good. It'll be found at hungry. Dash dot com slash food cast, and it'll be best jobs. Do you think anyone is still listening or have they already run out to trader Joe's to get all of these items? I think they're still listening. And so we should remind them to review the podcast share the podcast with their friends. Sign up for the hungry girl. Daily emails and all of those exciting things that involve us. We're not self centered at all no not in any way. All right. Well, thank you for tuning in. Hope you love the best of trader Joe's. 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58: The Trader Joe's Haul Episode

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58: The Trader Joe's Haul Episode

"Phone. I'm so hungry. Hey, there, people, it hits me, Lisa. Lillian also known as hungry girl here in Hungary land with Mikey and Jamie. Hello, guys. How I how are you? You good. It's nice to see you too. It's not like I haven't seen you all morning. But as ISIS here. Here. We're going to see you for a very long time taking a trip. But we're here today at the podcast table, people always say where do you record your podcast? We recorded at a table with a purple tablecloth now. Can you envision us for awhile? We just had a beach towel draped over the table and then didn't look very official. So it's new peon Snoopy beach town. It was couldn't you tell by the velvety, soft feels nice blanket. Oh, I don't know. Maybe it is a blanket. What do I know? Okay. So we're digressing today is a super exciting episode because so few weeks ago, we had a Costco, hall, episode that broke the internet in our world of the internet. So we are doing our very first trader Joe's hall episode. How exciting is that? I know you can't see it. But my grin is ear to ear. I'm so excited. You're two years, she's grinning, so here's the deal. The trader Joe's hall episode, this is an episode that basically, Jamie and Erin went out to trader Joe's when I was away last week. In New York and bought everything under the sun like you guys came back with giant bag. We inspected, every crevice in corner of trader Joe's for new or interesting products. And you know how great trader Joe's is. And they have like I always say this, but I envision these magical trader Joe's fairies inventing new things like every week. I know it's amazing. I don't know how they keep doing it. It's like they're reading our minds. So you guys came back with a slew. I mean, like you unloaded it the other day on the counter, and I was like, I cannot wait to try all of it. So we are going to go through all the products and taste them live for your listening, pleasure. Yeah. None of us have tried not even one of these have been tasted, so they mail stink. But they probably won't. I was recognized at trader Joe's for the first time the other day I was so excited because I always feel like I mean I'm not recognized in public very often. And when it happens, I'm still at the point where I'm so excited that anyone knows who I am. And usually they're like I thought you'd be allowed taller. The consistent thing they say, but I always think if I'm at trader Joe's, that's probably the most likely place to be. Exactly. So basically she said she said, I'm here looking for all the things you recommend also. So I forced to take you selfie a selfie with me. Which is usually goes the other way. But I did I said, please, take a selfie with you. And then we should post that selfie the Calabasas one of her. Yes. The new beautiful trader Joe's I love that place. And the cashier was like, who the hell are, you know, you don't don't feel bad that you don't know who anyway. So we're gonna start off today by trying some breakfast -i ish items, first up is going to be the brand new coconut, cold brew coffee concentrates. That's a mouthful. It really is Coca Cola brew coffee concentrate. So this is the kind of thing it's concentrated cold brew. You add water to it, and you can make your own coffee. What makes this extra special and appealing to us is that it has no sugar? So this is like it just has ten calories, and it's cold Cobra and later, in, which is fun. Usually unsweetened ones, or just plain Kobo just nipped it. It's. It. It's it smells really rich, it smells amazing. So we're going to try it. It's great. Right. Don't you want to just be careful not to do that, though? Because you have to add water and ice, probably because how much water do you add to that, Jamie? Is it like eight six eight ounces? So it says, let's see. Mixed one part coffee with two parts Melker water. Great. Oh. So you can make a little lot. Yup. And so what else is in it? What kind of coffee anything interesting about it? Looks like your standard. How do you say it? Rabah Rabah, a replica coffee. Great natural coconut with other natural flavors. Natural, natural could be anything contains coconut. All right, we're gonna try it, and we're going to try it with another product that we're gonna talk about separately, but it's a new Creamer that is available. Trader Joe's it's a coconut Creamer non dairy Creamer. So we like this because it has five calories a tablespoon. I if you ask me, I think it's a typo I've never seen a Creamer with five calories tablespoon. But we're gonna go with it. So we'll try that separately. But now we're gonna try the Cobra and this is the cold brew with the coconut Creamer. And we put a little sweetener in it, right? And only a tiny bit of Creamer because it doesn't look very creamy. Wow. That's creamy coconut. Yeah. It's like an island coffee extravaganza. Totally. Wow. Yeah. It's like tell you wake up in Hawaii with one of these. Well, it just tastes like first of all this tastes like super expensive cold brew, and I don't know cold brew it I was thinking the other day when I was in New York City, I went to the deli next my hotel, and I bought a tiny can of cold brew and it was six dollars. Almost fell on the floor. So I don't I'm curious to know how much this is I have a feeling because it's trader Joe's that it's super affordable. Yeah, I remember being really impressed. And that's the most impressive thing because cold brew for whatever reason, takes a lot out of somebody to make it. It's complicated. This is pretty affordable. Apparently and with the concentrate, it's like you're saving money because you don't need a giant package with all the extra water. It tastes expensive tastes like really schmancy. I love it. I'm excited to try it solo. Oh, oh, you're gonna try that. So we're gonna try Creamer. Guzzle it. You can't concentrate, Jamie. Don't do about that Creamer carton is it. It's in the old school chair. Joe's font. I guess so it looks kind of retro cool totally does. Okay. I just tried the Creamer alone and it's so yummy. Yeah, it tastes like. Like a coconut, Patty lick the inside of a coconut paddy remember those. That's it's really good. It's not intense. I actually believe the calorie count because it doesn't taste. It's not super strong and it's not overly creamy, it's just nice and light. I would I would add a little of this to oatmeal. I jazz up my cereal with that'd be great and cereal. That's good. I do I like to take things like this, and added to oatmeal and cereal if I eat cereal, I feel like it's like a middle ground between the unsweetened nut milks and like full-on Creamer a little bit creamier than those and it tastes lightly. Sweet. So as. Yes, the gram per tablespoon. Great spoon, and it's fat free. Fat free. Non dairy coconut Creamer thumbs up to that, that a lot. That's really great unique product. Okay. Next up. We're trying the new maple chicken breakfast sausage from trader Joe's, these are small little sausage links. So they're like, the cute little breakfast sausage size, and they are maple chicken, and they're all natural, and they come fully cooked so you don't have to worry about not cooking them. You just have to heat them and eat them. And they only have three grams of sugar for to each link has forty five calories. So two links for ninety calories and again, not much sugar in a maple sausage. That's pretty good. We're going to try these babies wanna take a peek of. Looking for new breakfast protein anyways? So this might this might become a new thing for me. Let's try Malia super excited. While. You can't even tell this chicken, it just tastes. It's really delicious. That is really good. I used to when I would go like I hop or whatever I get, like pigs in a blanket, and I would, you know the maple syrup on the on the sausages. It's already in there for this, so they don't even need to do that. That's great. That's dip. I used to dip my sausage and maple syrup. No need now, you could double nine have twice as much of that is spectacular so young I love that. And you get five grams of protein in each little link. I would shop that up and put it in a little eggnog with beaters and just call it a day. I would do that. See sometimes lately, I've been making choices with my I'm either just using truffle salt. Or maybe I'll put in a wedge, laughing cow or some kind of light cheese. But I would use that instead of the cheese, I don't love it. Yeah. Gives it it's got so much flavor. I can't. How did they pack that much flavor into that tiny little link any biddy link? It's those ferries. You're talking fairies crazy fairies all right next up. This is a really unique product when I saw. That I wanna like describe it to the people it's made by Volpi. I don't know who Volpi is never heard of the O. L P, I and it's a role, teeny mozzarella and produce a ham snack. So imagine it looks almost like a string cheese, only, it's a little fatter. And it's push him wrapped around mozzarella, again, this calorie, count, seems unbelievable because it's like fat and large. It's like a cigar cigar, delicious one hundred twenty calories about holding. That's it. But yes, that's what I can't Jamie's going to slice this up like a like a an iron chef here. Let's put on a plate and slice this thing up. So we'll try it. But so it's about what four inches long and more than is it. I don't know. And it's wrapped in him and it decadent looking it really is. It looks like you could cut this up in serve this, you know, at a party it, it's full toothpicks Tolan it looks fancy, and it's so clever again. I mean you imagine how jealous people will be like the people who just have a sad piece of string cheese. When you show up with this, this is a good if you're like watching your carbs, and you want, like a good like. All protein, no car all the Kito people. Yeah. Pull that hold on. Big on a plane like you get like a salad and then have this. Oh, well, hold the phone. That's like a twelve out of ten. You heard it here. First folks. It's so decadent incredible. And creamy is that she's mozzarella? Rematch over eight grams? While every gram that for shoot though, it's like super thinly sliced, even though it's wrapped around a few times. So it's still got like that really tender shaved goodness, little saltiness that is so young Mike. I can tell you gonna want for lunch. The line. Those are they sell them by the single. So you don't need to buy a whole container of them. You can just pop into trader Joe's and get one of them. That's fantastic. I would buy like a million of them, put them on a train cut them up and just serve them in a party love Mike. I like how he won by Ebert it. It's gone. What if I wanted more to me I was? I'm kidding. All right. Oh, and twelve grams of protein, holy macaroni. You meek sack love it. I would like I wonder if like not that it's meant to be done that way. But if you like slightly microwaved it for like five seconds. It would be so young. Okay. Next up. I'm so glad I'm hungry today. Mixed up we have these natural chicken hotdogs, their uncured, trader Joe's chicken hotdogs. And I think the calorie counts are pretty impressive on this there. No nitrate hotdogs, nitrate free, and they of seventy calories seventy calories a dog three grams of fat and nine grip wait. No zero grams of fiber impressively sized. They are they are pretty big. Mustered. I'll dip it backwards. Wow. I love these. Pretty picky with hot dogs. Sometimes they taste really kind of fake and neared rule. While of them. I've gotten used to the forty forty five calorie like Hebrew national ones. But these these are better they taste more wholesome than I'm used to for hot dogs in a good way. I know they're not overly salty. Sometimes house, the sodium hundred which I think, for hotdogs is probably that's low. I'm pretty sure I've got my dad those he has a watch sodium. And I'm pretty sure I've got him those before. You're such a nice son, like your daddy, I bought you, some hot live, five blocks from us. So then they know my trader Joe's shopping schedule. So once in a while, they'll text me, can you get some hotdogs, and drop them off? Okay. Great. I'll buy them. These are definitely it says, not preserved. So that's the difference. Most hot dogs are filled with preservatives. Oh. And that's why they taste like insanely usually. Yeah, these do taste fresh totally impressive, and we could use these recipes dog recipes recipes still not that sounds terrible. Don't run away now. All right. Next up. We are getting into some sauces. This is exciting because you know what? Like trader Joe's, I don't know how they keep churning out all these different sauces and salsas. But the ones you found were so impressive. This is a Saracho and roasted. Garlic barbecue sauce. How cool it sounds so good. I feel like it's perfect. We should try this on the chicken dogs. Should it smells so smoky and I'll tell you what the stats are there. Really impressive. Fifty calories for two tablespoons, which is good. It's that's end. It's low end but. But it's high, and no fat. So we're gonna try this, and then we're gonna see how it is so the flavor profile here. It's Saracho roasted, garlic and barbecue all in one place, aka this bottle. So sweet smoky has a kick. That's a Raja spicy. That's great. That's amazing. It's so good the heat it sneaks up on you. If you like spicy barbecue sauce. This is phenomenal. I didn't know I did. But now I do you know you do. Now, totally barbecuing with that next. That's that's, that's fantastic Banik to if then impresses, you does. And it's, it's not crazy spicy. It's Saracho spicy, which is kind of a sweet. Yeah, it's definitely. It's noticeably spicy, but not like, you know, doesn't your life in a way spice can love this stuff. Probably be good as a marinade like to cut a night and breast. That's great. This is such a good. Find a great TJ's hall has anything disappointed yet. No, Jamie good work wasn't even there for it. It's organic Saracho and roasted garlic barbecue sauce. Add that to your list, lease do yourself a favor. Okay. Next up, we have a new salsa and, you know, trader Joe's has a bazillion song. I still like best, believe it or not the old faithful pineapple regular Guinea bottle best ten calorie. It's my favorite the pineapple salsa, but I'm willing to try the new ones that today we have a roasted tomato, mango salsa. So Toma t this is like a green salsa, what exactly is it? Toma te'o Jamie, little tomato. Is it is that what it is? Don't they call it to Matei their day? Green tomato I should of. It's not like I know very little have you noticed hold them. Just utah. I know what I know. And I know what I don't know. And I don't know what until Matteo as it's also known as the Mexican husk tomato. Okay. Well this, this is impressive with only fifteen calories for tablespoons. And we're gonna try today on a pepper. Actually, I'm scooping for Mike. Good. You're good wife. This is how he eats all his meals. Across the table. Oh, let's we mile. But it too has a little kick got a little bit of, I think it has chili peppers so it has tomatoes Tangy mangoes and hot chili peppers. I like that. And it's surprisingly, not salty, which I kind of like it makes it feel fresher. That's really good. Sweet. It's sweden. Spicy at the same time. Hold on. I'm gonna what a happy. Little marriage Toma t when mango it totally tastes fresh. It doesn't taste fake. It anywhere it is really low and sodium, only ninety five milligrams for tablespoons, and you can use that to flavor, something instead of salt, because let's say, you want instead of putting salt on your chicken or whatever you, it's the roasted part add so much flavor. How many items have which about what six or seven my full, I don't even know have. We have had one has even come close to being bad or even. Come on. Right. Probably gonna suck gonna say is we should maybe the next challenge will be to find something doesn't taste good. At Joe's that's a good call. Let's drive that I bet we could do that. If we tried. Okay. Next up cowboy caviar corn. Black bean, and pepper salsa cowboy caviar is a thing. So what does that, like corn and bean salsa, basically? We have a really good recipe for cowgirl our recipe rocks rocks rocks. All right. Wittling to this. Yeah, this is like a very chunky salsa. It's made with corn black beans and peppers. And it's definitely tomato based so, so chunky it looks like you could turn the bottle upside down, and it would not come, but don't try. Always looking at you hoping you will literally just taking a fork full of it. It looks so hardy. I feel like you could eat it like that. I would eat it just as a snack. How many how many calories Jamie's is up to table? Spoons twenty five calories. Oh my God. This is the best one yet I am obsessed with it. Because it's so it's like sweet. It's perfectly sweet. It's like handy. My God smokiness is like it's like a sweet smokiness. Yep. I'd put these tacos. Well, yeah. That could be an ingredient in your taco if you just mix that with, like chunks of chicken through a taco shell done through some lettuce on top. This is also kind of feel like a little low for sodium and I think that's like working in their favor. It makes it tastes fresh. There's so much labor. You don't need a ton assaults. Can't how much sodium one fifteen for two tablespoons? It's not a lot. The corn makes that it's it is spicy, though. I'm drinking my parents. To water. I would put these in these little pepper halves. I'm gonna eat that for lunch. Okay. You hear that, Mike? So don't eat it all Tony the whole jar. Right. Hang onto those pepper halves. All right now, we have another salsa. This is crazy. This one is corn chili tomato LaSalle. So for those of you out there who think you want salsa, but are you fear tomatoes or you don't like them or your logic to them? This is a salsa. That's made sands tomatoes. So it's more like chunks of corn. Delicious. It does look good reserve fear of tomato. Is it a short some kind of weird phobia? There's a fear of everything, right? Yeah. Fear of fears. What is that called? Triska deca phobias that fear of the number thirteen or something. No. This is Mike's it was yours. I was here food to thanks, Jamie. Thanks, mama. Jamie, this, this is were serving these little bell peppers, and your scooping it out. So let's, let's talk a little about what's in this because I can't really tell it looks like red peppers corn. So this is corn. Red bell peppers on an jalapeno peppers. Oh, these polyps. How you can tell you from these coast. Well, this is the sweetest one yet. What is going on? I think trader Joe's must just like add sweetness to everything to make good this tastes. Like it's made with a lot of sugar is sugar taste the jalapeno at all. Like there's no heat to this mate. Yeah. Well, this has six grams of sugar for two tablespoons, but corn is high in sugar. I think maybe I mean compared to tomatoes out take down the sugar on this. Yeah. It's a second ingredient corn and sugar like it. But it's too sweet. I would mix that with, if you mixed this with the cowboy caviar that'd be a good blend. I'm giving Lally my peppers or green red peppers a pluses. And then we have probably be there something. Yeah. That might be it'd be minus. So unless I mean if you're a person who does not like tomatoes and loves sugar, you're gonna love this horn and chili tomato. You would also love lifesavers. If you're that person is true. I do love lifesavers. Great. Go wrong. All right. Next up. This is so fun. I actually saw this and I almost bought it the other day, but I didn't, and then I came back and came to the office. And it was here. So this is called popcorn a pickle, which means it's pickled flavored popcorn. I know by that name I would expect it to be like a hollowed out dill with like corn kernels inside of it. I would have thought it was popcorn that was in trouble in some way. Oh, pickle. Oh my God. Smell this. Smells, I dunno smells like a deli in a movie theater, a baby. Whoa. And what is delicious smelling, baby? It's good. It's very, very dill very dilly. I had dill mustard the other day was so good. So I think I like dill more than I thought. So it was the most accurate description of anything ever heard, what a movie theater had a baby only that would happen in real life. I'm sorry about my offensive crunching. Purpose. It's a little scratch, and sniff sticker. You think a little, but I like it. I was actually impressed that it's not overpowering. It's a little overpowering. I don't know. Maybe it's a piece. It's very sour. Well, it's a fickle. It's a love pickles. Not like light popcorn or anything, but you get two cups for hundred and fifty calories ten grams of fat that's high so worth trying. But maybe not what do you think? I don't know. I feel like if you made what I would do is take my regular like low fat microwave popcorn. That's so much lower in calories, at, like a small handful and mix it up. You get a little more flavor. This is why you're hungry girl. It's okay. It's just a little much. And not one hundred and fifty calories for two cups, isn't like skinny, pop like thirty five calories a Cup where all the calories pickles of no calories, what's happening. I mean it's just it's not like popcorn. It's like regular pop. It must be. It must be. It must be made with some butter and their chew. I think there's I don't know. I don't know that popcorn really is in a pickle. I don't know that I'd recommend it. I think it's actually a good conversation starter. Like if you're going to a barbecue, and you wanna bring something that's gonna make people talk, if it's true. It's like, oh, look how cute popcorn. All right. Next up seated mango, and ginger crisps. I love that you found these. They look at little crackers, right? Do you know what I hate the word seated and de seated in the same thing? What? Yep. If you talk about tomato and you say it seated means you move the seeds in DC did as you remove to the seeds. But in this, I think sometimes seeds, seated means it has seeds. No, if you have a seated, bagel and has pop. Right. So in this case, right? But if you are talking about an item and you say it's. Been seated. Or D C. Sometimes it can mean the same thing. It means there are seeds involves. So this is a box of what looks like little toasts, little crackers there. All right. Let's this is what's hard to open, right? We need scissors. So we've been warned Jamie's going to cut this open while I describe what they are. They are a crispy savory and sweet cracker to complement cheese spreads dips and or toppings. And they look like tiny little toasts seem while those are really good. I don't taste the ginger these will be so good with a little bit of like light whipped cream cheese and pepper. Jelly. Like that pepper jelly we love. I feel like these would also be a good thing to bring like a party barbecue. Mhm case, the mangled very unique. What's her name, visiting MRs g love her nine calories? Each know something like that. You get eleven crackers for ninety calories lolly legs it. Yes. She's crunching on them right now. They're a little sweet. They're different. I would pair them with something slightly savory. Yeah. But they're so unique. They're really serve that as a party at a party. And you tell people you made those yourself the stakes are so high because we've had so many like out of the park amazing find so far a little a little harder. I agree. I just thought you I was like stakes stakes stakes sorry anyway, but they are leading, it's okay. We're not holding it against you. All right next up. We actually you found a cake mix that I looked at the box, and I was like, wow, this is so interesting. It's fudgy chocolate keen, wall Lopin cake mix. And then we decided to instead of follow the box direction. Nhs just make it with, with pumpkin, like put in some pumpkin. So the way you're supposed to prepare it, it's supposed to have like two hundred and thirty calories apportioned, but the actual mix it self only as one hundred ten calories abortion. So these muffins, probably only one hundred thirty one hundred forty nine and here's what's cool. So the box numbers if you prepared according to the box two hundred thirty calories for one fifteenth, but we made twelve big brownie muffins, and the each only have one hundred and fifty. Don't look that big. But let's look. All right. They're very fudgy looking. I'll give them out. And I never thought of putting keen want and a cake really. But we're gonna try it is very fudgy. Good. Texture. Little bitter. Dark chocolate. I think it's like really bitter, but not bad. I think people would like this. The, the fudging is good. I like it a little bitter them. I don't taste keen, walk. I taste what you're wrapped into it's, you know what we usually make this exact recipe with devils food cake mix, and it's definitely is not as fluffy. Well, I think the texture may even be better, but the flavor is not this is good. That's nothing a little pain would fix this tastes. Just a tiny bit healthy. But I think it just tastes bitter, but not that, none the bad way of sugar. I ingredient. Oh, so yes, but it was it's okay. I don't know. I mean, I feel like it's more of a novelty, and nothing home about dear mom, I try to subpar cake mix today, so Exo Jamie. All right. Next of this is such a cute thing. This is the kind of thing that you buy and give to everyone, you know, if they're four or forty or one hundred and forty these are mini gummy bears on a chocolate pool day. So look, please look how clever this is literally like a slab of shock. Flett with, like white chocolate with floating gummy bears like they're like, sunning themselves on the sheet of chocolate, Jamie. What are the stats on these? Honestly, not terrible half of the bar. It's too big. Chocolate bar half of the bar is one hundred fifty calories eight grams of fat. That's this whole thing is three hundred calories three ten apparently ten so it's like four by three or something or three by five looks like three five photograph. And then what are we supposed to do? Just break these, I think I destroyed the pool day, you know, bears were hot or everyone break their own piece, I would say, so I'm not fondling. Everyone's piece of chocolate bar. So we taste. This piece each single piece has like one floating. Barry think I'm gonna take up with the bear on. It was up milk. Truffle. White chocolate. But what's, what's, what's the dark chocolate on it? It's white with like some kind of I think it's milky white and dark chocolate. So it's white in dark I was wrong is so good. So good like it's great. Yeah. How many calories in each little square, good question. I'm clapping for that. It's so cute. Fifty one point six that's not bad. I say worth it, and that's good white chocolate. A lot of people say, why chocolate is not chocolate. And maybe technically it's not. But I love it. True. Joe's I get my trauma from trader Joe's there. Chocolate is the best. I don't know where they get it from our who makes it, but it's always the best chocolate. Have you learned nothing? It's the trader Joe's varies, I wonder if we go by their facility in Monrovia, and it was just like various flying over it. Can we go there? I don't know what are they gonna do if we show? But it's probably an indiscreet is that the word in a discreet undisclosed undisclosed building in Monrovia. You know, I'm sure we will never find. It could be like that one or that one or that one, you know what goes on. They don't make stuff in there. So I wonder what happens do they have meetings, do they have a podcast that comes from table with a purple table. We need to go. Okay today, the final product and I don't know if we should be ending with this or not. But. It's a dog treat because we thought we would be fair to Lally. We're are those doctorates whereas that box. So this is a here. It is. Listen. This is a grain free dog trait made with peanut butter and banana. And we thought it would only be right if we had Lally review this. But by the way, I'm not gonna say that people here, did not try these. I saw people eating maize in the other room. How won't one banana chocolate? Absolutely put it on a gummy bear float. A floating guy. All right. So here's what Lally had to say. Hi, it's me and Fink, you letting me review the green free drug treats made with peanut butter and banana from trader gel, I wanna start by saying that I like trader Joe's out lot because they have very creative, and delicious dog treats, but I didn't expect to like be treats because while I like peanut butter, I'm not a fan of been when my mommy tries to feed me bananas. I usually death. Spit them out. However, in needs treats, the peanut butter flavor was strong in delicious enough to drown out, the banana, flavor and together, I enjoyed whatever they did with the recipe because they're crunchy not too sweet. And very Casey ended the perfect size. In fact, I had three. Them in a row, I kept begging my mommy into gave me three of them in a row. So I say to pas up. I love trader Joe's and I love Drake, grain free jog treats may with peanut butter banana and you hit get them for your doggy. Okay. Thank you. Mommy and Jamie em Mikey for having me on the podcast. I'm Ali I have you lolly. Wow. Well, we, you have a lot of opinions, she's the cutest cutest. But clearly she loved them. So if you have a dog that you like you should see this lot. Mike is gonna try this long on the dog that you don't like I will take it because every dog owner. Oh, be me. These are human ingredients. Right. It's all made like chick peas banana peanut butter and no sugar only have fifteen calories. Each I was like this should be come on. Spread a little peanut butter on it. He looks conflicted. All right. I'll try it. It's not bad. I'll take my own my own. It's bad enough. Eating a dog for you. Don't have to after Mike leap. You know what I mean? Like it's not it's not bad but it's not. Sweet. It's almost like a cracker. What taste like banana Biscardi? That's just a few weeks. Old stale Jays like a good though. It's not bad. Really? You just if you put a little Stevie on, Jamie. It's not bad. No, it tastes totally edible, I can't believe we're hearing, this is what our lives have been reduced to. We're sitting here eating dog treat for the masses. All right. People this that ends our trader Joe's hall, but we did well today fantastic. I mean, do we want to recap or say, what's great? All right. I'm gonna rattle them off Lisa and you give us like your couple of sentences about each one. Okay. All right. So first up, we tried the coconut, cold brew coffee concentrate, very, very rich, tasting and flavorful. And probably good bang for your buck in the world of cold brew love it. Love, the coconut, flavor and the Creamer thumbs up as well. And that's the original coconut Creamer. How about the maple chicken, breakfast sausage hands down everybody loved that Forty-five calorie links. Sweet and delicious eliminates the need to dip in maple syrup to have a leftover lolly was giving her view. I was eating some leftovers. All right. How about the role teeny mozzarella? And for shoot though, hem maybe like the most clever snack in the world. It's so clever and delicious and high end hating. I mean it has eight grams of fat. So it's one hundred twenty calories, it's not like eating jerky. It's low higher than that. But love uncured chicken hotdogs, the hot dog of the season. I would say, give these try all natural chicken, dog, seventy calories organic Saracho and roasted garlic BBQ sauce time to change up your barbecue sauce fifty calories for two tablespoons total home. Run hasn't nice heat. So if you're sensitive to spice be careful roasted Toma te'o and mango salsa, I love Thome to you have I told you I'm obsessed. No. I didn't know what it was like twenty minutes ago. But no, this is excellent salsa. It's nice and sweet and good. And I can't say enough. Good things about it. Right. We loved it. Loved it cowboy caviar corn. Black beans and pepper salsa. This was even better because of the chunks of corn and it was, like you could eat it with a spoon. It was like a snack on its own. Love the cowboy caviar corn, and Chile to may. To less salsa. I missed the tomatoes and I and wait, too much sugar too. Sweet. It was like it was trying to be dessert. I think the made a mistake popcorn and a pickle. Novelty? Get it for your friends and say, look popcorn tastes like pickles. But it's a little high in calories and flavor. Wise is just okay. Seated mango ginger Chris very unique. You seem fancy schmancy if you put these out at a party people will think you are fancy and schmancy fudgy. Chocolate keen wa loaf cake. Mix good texture. Little bitter goes, you know, strictly, I would say just stick with devils, food, cake, and pumpkin. I don't know what you guys impressed with that. I liked it. It was really rich about in love it. But I liked it. But I would like you said, put something about on top of that bitter. That's what I'm going to say. It's bitter. Okay. Many gummy bears on chocolate pool day. Oh my gosh. I wanna be with these bears at all times. I want to be with them on their pool day. That was a an amazing situation. Love it. And any final thoughts on the grain free dog treats with peanut butter and banana, good enough for people. I beg to differ, drizzle some chocolate top perfect, but don't give the chocolate or your whatever you do. They can't have chocolate. Okay, what are we doing? On the on the fabulous show page which can be found at hungry. Dash girl dot com slash food cast, they will be able to find all of the products that we reviewed today. And I think we'll also send them our to ingredient recipe for young brownies. Oh smart. Let's do that. Okay. What are we gonna put a trader Joe's store locator link? Is there such a thing? Sure. Why not? All right. We'll tell people in case you don't know what trader Joe's. Yeah. Maybe we'll give them our cowgirl caviar to. Oh, good idea. Yes. So if you are a fan of our podcast, but don't get the daily emails, you should sign up, and you can do that hungry dash girl dot com. You can also check us out on Facebook. Facebook dot com slash hungry girl and join the what's chewing community. That's a great place to be, you could call and leave a message and ask questions at five three eight oh eight oh, seven five. Or you could drop us an Email at podcast at hungry. Dash girl dot com or suggest at hungry dash girl dot com. Did I miss anything? No. What a successful hall. I can't wait till keep eating. I know. That's what we're gonna do. Sign off more. Okay. Well, thank you guys for tuning in over. Get to tell you friends about the podcast, we appreciate you and love you and we'll be back next week with a new episode until then. I'm Lisa Lillian, also known as hungry girl till next time chew the right thing.

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110 THE GREATEST PRANK IN PODCAST HISTORY

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110 THE GREATEST PRANK IN PODCAST HISTORY

"Hey Guys Matt Silverman here producer of girls one podcast and I wanted to just ask you a quick favor if you can head on over to your podcast platform of choice and leave a rating being and or a review of two girls one podcast. It's one of the best ways for new listeners. To discover the show and find out why you like it so head on over to apple podcast pocket. CAST CAST box spotify wherever you listen. And if there is a rating or review system leave yours. There's and thank you so much for helping to spread the word and support our conversations with important Internet Communities Contour from Cox has all your favorites breath all in one place and with the contour remote you can use your voice to fund them on live. TV On demand and streaming APPs like netflix prime video and more see Cox dot com for details. Hey they're longtime listeners. I have some fantastic news for you today and no. It's not that I've learned how to sleep today. We are playing the world's greatest prank on Jen. And I am so fucking excited. She literally has no idea. It's not April fools. There's no reason for her to suspect. That's right we have brought Jen's boyfriend on today but we are going to disguise his voice and he is going to pretend to be a fervent member of the adult baby community who who has a lot of opinions on our adult baby episode and I could not be more fucking excited so we want to let you listeners. In earned wound the joke as it unfolds. GET READY SO I know we've talked about him. On many episodes I have said very publicly publicly. He is my favorite of all of JEN's boyfriend. Getting never had any other boyfriends so far. Let's let's welcome outcome atom to the PODCAST. Two guys one girl League league table and I got it. I gotta go finally a place where white men can be in the majority. It's been really really tough for you. I am so sorry I really feel free. I assume you're white. I don't know why but we've never been are safe place I am. Yes any does contested care. Does it make you comfortable that. I've joked to jam. She found the male. May that's settling on my hair. Because out of the he has great hair. Do not lose it Pressure Israel is GonNa Miss you fall out with this pressure all right guys so Adam Adam using a long your podcast purist. You listened and from the beginning I started from episode. One it's beautiful so you also know about my asshole tonight. Which womp means bats as you should as you you? You should be participating in Matt as whispering. Jen's earshot trump cool will. I can't chant. Wait for this. Do you have your scripts ready. You know all the things about the. Have you done your research into adult. Babies scruples ready to go. I know everything about the L. Community. Eh share it with the community. So you going to pretend to be a disgruntled adult baby. Is that correct. That's correct yeah. I'm I'm going to be a Disgruntled Adult Baby Diaper Lover. Business and JEN has any idea what's happening is zero zero Jen. Let me just tell you something. Jen is the most gullible person I've ever met him. Okay ought to sniff this out the record to be like Jenn Jenn. It's out. It's at voices well. The plan listeners centers is that Adam is going to be revealing increasingly private details from Jen's life while pretending to be adult baby and hopefully awkward details fantastic you yeah you also some compromising photos of ood not in that way. That sounded wrong. She's the moms the best she doesn't care sat in pretty sure Mama James also team Adams or whatever I don't WanNa put contest now and that's why we love you all right guys. I think it's time for us to dive into our. Are you know normal episode. Let's get Jen. Let's get atom off the line and ringing to see what happens okay. Hey everybody I'm Jen. And allie welcome to two girls. One podcast ask Ali and I are performers for many years. Use the Internet as our script in a live comedy show called blogs. We then took that to a web series called two girls one show. Where are we interviewed? People behind the posts and unscripted adventures. And then finally we found ourselves a whole that what is that from. Call my God that goonies no get out of that is that nobody knows note. Thank you have to cancel the show. That's the second seriously serious serious home improvement if you don't know the most iconic grunt in television history than I don't WanNa know. Yeah that's really harsh. You you know rough time and you're threatening the rules. I don't make the rules. You make the rules. It's true. I do make liberals are made by you anyway is making me wonder. If that neighbor Wilson on home improvement who you never could see. All of his surreal wasn't adult baby things. Yeah Wow oh great. Interesting transition you're on today. That would explain what you never saw him. The nineties wasn't ready for the diaper. That's right they have to hide. That on TV. Didn't want that contract. They could go much. Show the diaper neighbor. I'm fairly confident. The actor who played Wilson is no longer with us. I'll double check so the little baby it said and jed still make it was he and other things things did he have a nice. I'll google during the AD break. We'll we'll find so I actually think that's the amount of famous I WANNA be. Yes so he had a steady job for a long time but nobody could recognize him on the on the street because she's famous on the face. Whatever the famous yeah you gotta you gotta get after that well? I don't think I've been saying this is two girls one podcast. Welcome everybody on this show. We interviewed people by an Internet communities the Domino we find fascinating. Today is interesting because we're so this is gonNA take it back to episode twenty which was about adult babies and we had a really strong response to that show and that I think guys I mean if you agree we had the largest influx of emails just people kind of letting US know how much meant to them wanting to continue the conversation things like that or disagree but recently is somebody heard that episode episode twenty of gas and they got in touch with the gift that keeps on this show because they got in touch with Matt on twitter and today's going to be a little different so matt what happened. They say you know what we got we got. We don't need to hear it can story so I'll just take on that like weeks and months. We've been doing this two years almost now and we still get emails about the Abdiel episode. People really thanking us for treating the community with respect which means a lot to us And so a gentleman reached out directly to me on twitter which is not common. My socials are not typically typically associated public facing on the show usually people reach out on the email address and Deemed me on twitter and said hey you know caught at this episode. I'm a member of this community and I'm based in the DC area he goes by the pseudonym are handled DC baby. I don't know if that's Like if there are forms or message boards or whatever but message means head like you know really appreciated the show but your guest Like left out huge portions of the community element and he kind of alluded to other things going on in the ABC L. Community in the Washington Washington DC area now my like Red Flag Detectors went up immediately inbound messages a lot people wanting to do do things or sell things or say things on the show and so I was like okay. You know whatever like thanks for your note. Whatever and he insisted and so we got on the phone and once I finally ended up talking to him? That convinced me that like okay. This guy really knows what's going on in this community in in DC and as our conversation progressed like shared some really fascinating things that we couldn't have known in the original episode but with his insight. Now we're hoping to build on our understanding of this community especially as it relates to DC and sort of the Capitol Hill workers and politicians politicians. That are saved me. When you told me that part I was like that sounds conspiracy but Capitol Hill certainly has covered up a lot of phase? So could be. I do think that there's a lot added different facets to the community communities like we all know that's why I loved our interview so much so many furry is like they it either is really happy and rosy for them or they pretends tendons and our guests was like no. We totally fucking are. I which I loved. But they're also yeah. You can't get it all with a single it's impossible even even like you know from a journalistic point of view which we don't purport to be but we do we do interviews here with primary sources and you can't get it all so excited to have another perspective and it's something we we try to do. We sometimes seek this out but This came to us and again you know. I've been an editor for a long time. I am wary of people when they reach out to you since it's it's like a lot of conservative adult babies because that would make me so happy you know like back in the day when everybody everybody's like still homophobic but then all these politicians would be caught like at bath. Houses is that what's going on. He's he's not. I don't believe he is planning to come out here and name names like that. That is not. We don't WANNA stretch. We're not here to spread unsubstantiated rumors based on the call I think you will be satisfied with his. Let's call it an overview of the the scene particular too. Okay okay well. In general I do love listeners. I like the idea of going back to older episodes. If if the right guest calls in so keep that in mind listener. I do sincerely like that. I I also really love you and I have no idea what's going to happen. Like Mattis spirited this whole thing we have no idea. We don't know anything about this guy we just always called. DC baby by design. I don't want to say the more I will say that for the podcast academy one more thing though up if people don't know what. Ab Deals stands for it is adult basic diaper lover. And usually I think is there a slash between those two terms where you can you would think some adult baby or a diaper lover. Somebody who cares for and it'll baby but we can get some clarification Komo leader. You know I gotta Say I don't love this original interview that we did. I think we released it as episode. Twenty but it's one of our first interviews and I feel like there's some questions that I shied away from Do you shit in your diaper thing like wanting to have a follow up here over the last two years. Yeah now now. I'm just like you don't want to answer. You don't have to answer but I'm going to ask. Hey Do you think wore a diaper to sleep it. Would it would the of my insomnia because that is a tactic that I haven't tried. Are you a Jew. Stay away because you're peeing gabbing to be. Maybe it's therapeutic. Oh it could be our original guest set it makes you feel like calm and comforted again. So maybe I need to wear a diaper. How do you think that'll go over when I bring boys dating apps you're using that's true that's true? Did I tell you guys I went to a naturopathy told me that you access deeper sleep. If you sleep with your mouth closed. I was like fantastic. Adidas come home with me I'll l.. Put in my earplugs. Put My mask turn on my noise machine and then slowly duct tape no problem blow but it's a good tactic though when you're sleeping somebody else you know stink. Your breath get stinky during the night like just keep a close shelves that trap solution tape your mouth. That's it you can also train yourself to sleep with your mouth shut. I'm trying to just turn myself asleep. It's like let's level guys. I had a trip to New York last week and I canceled it so sleep deprived and Chamula sent me flowers. Yeah isn't that the Nice right now. I should be. I should have brought them into this podcast on time. I'm going to get there should can here. They are they speaking to you. They're K.. Because I know you don't have fallen. La So they're beautiful. There's like pink roses and then these little yellow things this is great podcasting phases. Let's talk about flowers We have a little time left before our guest arrives. I do have some trivia if you're ready let's do it all right we've done a lot of trivia about regular babies ABC's and of course adult babies even fake babies like reborn one of our previous episodes so today's Trivia is not about babies. It is about everyone's everyone's favorite place to buy frozen burritos. You know what. I'm sayin' trader Joe's that's correct. I have trader joes Trivia for you today WHO's excited outside trader Joe's last night saying listen to our podcast photo and send it to you the little guy hard. Thank you listen. You lack guys. If you're listening to the trader Joe's podcasts. Can you please let us know and tell us what's talking on their thinking about listening to learn about some new snacks. Maybe it'll put you to sleep. Hey there's there's a study that tart cherry juice helps increase your sleep by up to like sixty minutes or something sobbing chugging trader Joe's Jerry just before bed all right there you go. I'm full of good stories. Episode is not sponsored by Trader Joe's. But thank you very much should be skit on that. According to numerous employees he's and managers at trader Joe's who have posted online. There is something hidden inside nearly every trader Joe's store in this great it country of ours. What is trader? Joe's best kept secret. I have three choices. A A secret WIFI network which provides exclusive coupons and free products. If you guess the Password of the day. No that's crazy. Why wouldn't they tell us that case that shit be? The employee of the week wears a slightly different name tag back and if you can spot that tag and tell the employees the secret word from the weeks flyer you get free cereal. That's so complicated located. I believe that one see a stuffed animal is hidden in nearly every store which if found by kid results in prizes like lollipops and candy. I like that one. What if you're an adult kid the point I'm GonNa go note it I'm GonNa go with the stuffed animal stuffed animal that seems pretty straightforward? That's the easiest but I'm going to go with B.. Alley goes with be employees of the week with the secret password. Jen goes with see the hidden stuffed animal for kids. We will find out trader. Joe's nest kept secret after this very important commercial break. We have a partially eaten coffee cake. Free to a good home after eight in the first slice Nice we decided that we no longer want the rest of the case. You can pick it up but you must bring your own container because because we are keeping our kitchenware texts for more INFO or Santa's anything that Coffee K Y as you guys now. I'm an INSOMNIAC compound in the coffee cake farm sounds gay are you. A free isn't a Prejean and like you get the free food you dumpster dumpster diver free zone. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's a good way for a budget to car payments now going frigging well. Apparently perfectly good food gets oil which makes a lot of sense so all right now which it which is really sad and weird but but I think maybe dumpster diving not the solution who I have a couple of free gin raccoons that that live they get into the trash you know. What else is super affordable as nutrition breast milk? What bring it and just bringing it back to the adult babies calories per dollar pretty? You know that it's like you make it uses pretty set isn't nutritious for adults or is it just specifically glean nutritious for babies like do. Babies need whatever's in breast milk to grow a really really good drink it while we grow the answer. Okay thank you drink breast milk. I could be as tall as JEN. Only the breasts dot com and place an order man now. We're plugging only the breast all right. Let's get to the Trivia speaking reasonably priced food. Today's Trivia about trader goes. There's a secret in nearly every trader Joe's establishment in our nation. What is it? What is trader Joe's best kept secret? Grit your choices. Were a secret WIFI network and password that gives you free stuff be employee of the week. Where if you say the secret code to them you get free cereal or see? A stuffed animal is hidden in the store for kids to find genuine with with cease stuffed animal straightforward ally alley. What might be the employee of the week? The correct answer is see stuffed animal so boring. Yeah they should hire you. Your should Oh my God of their podcast. Those are great. Ah Now I mean it's pretty cute and straightforward for children. But what about me. I was sent children for. I want I normally I get out onto the INTERWEBS and search for some relevant Trivia. This was at the top of read. It people. People were so floored by the fact that a supermarket went out of its way to entertain the annoying children that come into the supermarket like people were like. This is the greatest thing ever and if you're in a trader Joe's in Maine they're hiding the lobster you're in a trader Joe's in Alaska Hiding Mussa themed. Can't it's cute. People were flipping out over this flipping. Why would they flipping out? You know where they'd really flip out if they heard your ideas all right. Help me with the pitch deck for this okay. I'm on it. Oh my God. Just spend time looking at trader Joe's thinking about it sounds great. I'm hearing some little rattle. addle shakes some like baby. Couldn't time let's do so everyone. We are so excited. Our guest is here with US please. Welcome D. C. Baby. They're an active member of the adult baby community. Who reached out to us recently? A fan of the show and they wish to remain anonymous so they have altered their voice. Welcome DC baby. How stinks being here? Her and for reaching out to Matt excited to be here. I'll go so fanny days do Change going trough ferreting. Ross is on brand so yeah so we know that you've reached out to is and I guess we're curious to know because alley and I don't know a whole story. You spoke with Matt but can you give us just a little bit of background anything you want to tell us about yourself but then also just like how you came to this episode. What intrigued you about it? And we'll take it from. They're full on our on our community. The Laura Kelly have been part of the twenty years I believe but again I I'm older feel like on Capitol Hill on. I Have Ball O'Reilly Around different administered awesome Full fare what I wanted to call Sharon. John is really a huge eighty. The team had the full record or plan and certify people's rain around so you work on Capitol Hill. What Scott did you say to administrations here? Max V care. On Great Ron woolfe overall follow along are okay. And you said there's a large community like in politics of of Abd. Al Farouq Kanana Danker than it's baby down the HAL heretical heretical. Fame Chechens gathering contractors bombing. Phone could see great career on order to become a member to demanded her advocation find sauce and we have various advance. And things like that. It's a ray drafts. Atomic city Wow how and how long have you been a part of that group Apple. You've actually said as transient cab line. Okay so it's called babies on the hill. Do you call each other. Goo Goo GA guys. I just wanted to throw that out there. Because I think it's something you should consider taking your have to already to become a member et cetera poverty and again attracted rapid growth yet to be nominated right here Campbell's or even printed on Africa pass not only by parts. Let's not to block rock on Apparel Ralph mentioning that rain right. Pete Buffalo southbound. Wow and what makes somebody the right person. Is it mostly about how much you think they can maintain the secrecy as somebody who want to spend time with all of the above. What are the criteria folder full? I won't watch the biggest that we think that somebody is give and talk. Show that you're here right now today. CARE absol- three hundred ought to while I have more Brad Nice and to me that he hello so cool. My mind is blown so this is the future of politics. What's been happening? Sounds like. It's been happening this. We heal the country. Thanks for coming to pray and it's nice escape form. I mean they're blackmail issues or is that like why the nomination Russian processes they're like that of Capon members community Dr Paul from also fire. Wow Okay and is there also an online presence dance with this DC community survey members on that were able to communicate like one in goes far alliance around around Florida bouncing around. What is the connection between tween like power and politics and Abd L. Because for instance in our initial episode the guest did say like it? It is a great way to unwind and adult life is stressful. I mean do you think that's what plays into this around along alignment fouls remain pretty important seasons on long just a ray escape unharmed. Yeah I'm owning a the Dow Baby John Having somebody the law council Yeah that makes a lot of that. Yeah that oddly maybe you yeah no it makes sense so is there. I know you can't names but like is there an adult baby twenty twenty candidate like shit like like. What is the bipartisan? You know what I mean. Where should I be for? She Wants Elsa L. Saturday. ABM unfortunately eight match for allowing members. Sarah dealing real long. Why especially me it? That's right I took can you. They sell the voices talking. Like everybody knows we've talked about okay. They were all next to me. She's a she's actually VAT VAT tall. It's just when she's next to me. It's a backer. I extend the next alley and in Japan. Oh aw I didn't know that's what this is all about all right. Well well I think she man along maybe he'll be into it. Compare down famous name the beginning on a huge fan of Yari. Shar don't start hearing your boyfriend. AINSI C run bring town melanoma. That's so crazy I know we did. We did and we had gone to a nets game. Yeah I have a cap on probably and that's at great. Now where were you at the roster and You're wearing a cap because when you're so famous when you leave the house you got to keep a low pro. Do Yeah definitely well. That's wild irving the yeah hope so all right so we jen was that when it was a few months ago it was That's so funny. Yeah we we were there. I saw her man. I like all this guys. If we could I would love to steer it back to the to the topic. Yeah like I'll keep that. It's it's it's that's really cool coincidence but I do want to see on track with Inter time. Okay okay sorry. The Chinese Arthur wanted to shore more mental thing like he is the only selenium bangs American fragment power on that Aby earnings the cane is only twisted. A little corral recommended down sound Arizoma grants shit. Wear the pen outside last segment. It is a stage left or audience left meaning if I'm watching someone on TV. I'm looking at them. Head on the pin is tilted to my laughter after smalls ramp of Babylon got it. Okay well how I know. You can't tame names with politicians but are you also aware of any like famous or prominent celebrities in Abd L. Community. What can we can out any attention? Zanny Mondays annual hurrying. Funny members bring run blast retiring soon celebrity. Row night me behind me. Oh Oh an abate minds baker the right pack more the pats on Malone hack wire. She can be a harrowing problem on call. We get that. Yeah so how long do around the wife of a boxer six her only prominent certain circles. Because I don't know anything about any sports whatsoever but we'd so we're those celebrities members of the community or were they. I guess this is insane. How do we know this is true? Like how can we like. Are there other. I mean you've been lovely just just to clarify there's information coming coming to the Party and then there there you have to wear the diaper. Is that what you're implying or does your say are also passed all sponsored one sees. I'm a member the whole wardrobe wait. I'm from Baltimore if I come to DC. Can I get into one of these. Will you take me because I went our our first episode. We interviewed a furry and he took me to a party. Will you take me to. ABC L. Party wherever you are hearing Jan as long as I don't think reservations but the I don't know well l you're always the one that type things I why don't you go and you can let me how it is report back report. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA. I just want to clarify something that cure a nightly whereas the diaper. Or what are we saying that she like went to a fun party and did a fun thing or that. She's a part of this community. Would you say apparently planned out. Luke hearing John Line she looks like a glorious a young child and she was wearing day was she wearing a diaper under the ones. And when here at this party is what are the events that go on to the party like is there an adult baby section. Diaper lovers section like also Democrats tend to be Diaper Lovers and Republicans are adult babies like there. Are there any political divides. The party's Atalanta getting lots of eighties. Reenter classroom arm found on ninety two baby. Tired of Children's games online also allows that's lovely. I'm really all for adult baby. Twenty twenty thank you do. How do babies in the White House? WHAT'S THE SLOGAN A? Hey Jen do you have any questions. You've been kind of Dia Jack. The Dow Anyway. I have happen to me up. She just texted me. She sent her you pranking me on the PODCAST In Texas Texas in any of those gains Jan.. I told I saw matt now in my bag. It was like when you ask me the celebrity questions. She's kind of data through shirt like. Where do we go when the meeting? First of all I was like freaking the puck cow sweating at first. I was like okay. That's possible I suppose. But that's crazy then when they mentioned the celebrities because those are two celebrities that adamant. I have been talking about recently and Mike into like one of my nicknames is based on one of the celebrities like mentioned an inside joke about Karen nightly then I started texting him but I also thought me being despite on and stocked by this totally. Jen thinks. She's got Caribbean. Do this. This is so much fun aren't doing what we've been planning this for a long time the last month you were like Adam loves loves the red paper Clip Guy. We haven't come on. Ask Him questions and I was like. Oh Fuck Matt we gotTA shooter down. Because I felt like such Ashley Adams a huge bed coming it asked. I thought that was kind of mean when. US yesterday could make up a reason. And you were talking about the podcast. And what were you. Were recording today and I told you I want to see if you were on a trail. I mean definitely not but you play. You played so cool you know talking about the war. I'm in my studio podcast. How long is this? podcast Matt made an offer. Yeah yeah this went very well and I think I am soccer baby guy once I was just like I just got really quiet. Nice well it gets hard. 'cause I I see your predicament. Invite wasn't excellent. The parade had never goes there. That it's your boyfriend so it just sounds like a really creepy fan but that voice changer was too much again. What the fuck you were saying in terms of all of the voice changes I find not know it sounded good and like just from a technical point of view? You sounded good like the full baby at the beginning and then it changed to like. I don't know if you change the setting it change hybrid of your voice plus the baby which was sounded extra creepy. Ah but here. I'm sitting like Oh fuck like she'll be here. John was so clueless. So Johnny. How are you yeah? That's all I could understand you better but now I see what was going on. Yeah I was like Oh. Here's a nice deep voice. It's a real guy behind there you so you did not suspect you didn't hear anything thanks. Jen started to get turned on by the real man. Voice was like this is very true but she couldn't place it emphasize enough first of all how much I was freaking out like I'm still shaking. I was so scared I was like this person is stalking me also met. I really was thinking this was it was a weird thing for you to suggest to your show which I just so there's that upfront trust at Saint yes. Initially the plan was that I was going to argue with Matt because that would be on brand and be like no. That's a terrible episode. And he was gonNA have to like really push for it. But then I actually love the idea of interviewing wing fans of the community is GonNa be on board with this though behind your back. It's been Super Fund. Not only that that we recorded an intro without you for this law vet listeners. have been we'll be in on it. Is there in. I feel like such a fool. You love they even care about me enough to do all this amount macadamia Fifty dollar traders gift. God uh-huh Oh my I could tell I could tell you a terrified because you just punted you. Just stop talking. Russell disappeared and I was like. Oh Shit when you start. Talking about carrot lease jaw literally dissecting it under other circumstances. I probably would've like put my foot down when a guy was being super fucking creepy. Yeah I'd be like are you stalking. We gotTA shellfish. Whose idea was this was the one gene one? Wasn't you guys reach out to add at the original idea who I know. You can't talk to my agent which the idea and we talked about it with management and decided to come aboard board wait. What's so funny though is I can't remember if I came up with our Matt came up with it? Had such a mind meld. Where both so excited about about this idea? I also after we add mama jam on which I fucking loved. It was only a matter of time till we got. I have to say my mind also started going in the direction of this. This is Adam. Oh my God this is Adam Alley and mad. Don't know he's pranking us. And they don't know and then I was having a crisis about Alamar was like he wouldn't do that. Third Dimension. Oh Shit because that would be elaborate bread but also kind of Dick No. I tried that. That's all you thought. Adam was the mastermind pranking. He's a tricky guy. You don't WanNa put that idea out there. Now you're going to have all this fake participants coming out of the woodwork. and honestly we become a prank show. I'm not I'm not totally opposed. See here's here's what I was fearing that Adam would turn on us. Tell Jen the prank. She'd be in on it and then double. What do you call it? The Double Double Backstab. Where Howard Prank? Adam I'm never reveals himself and IT turns into nobody. I thought you were going to reveal more personal details about shy. There weren't many entries into their. I tried I had a whole list of things I wanted to touch on. But what were you gonNa say what you would get got it when I was talking about here and nightly jaw line. That's when I started screaming inside out of love occur taste and so I I just love her. I ruined her friend how he told me so when he mentioned many he package or the boxers wife such a weirdly specific reference search boxing. We Watch ripcord like taking it out. I'm like that's the last time I have in my tool belt. That's what are we gonNA do. She just Alabama the. She's never going to figure this out. I knew I just stare and I didn't know what else where you're going to reveal about me. I was just going to talk about like the sunflower wallpaper on your high school bedroom wall here. Essentially they don't. We never thought that her mind would go toward Creepy Stalker I foresee that and but now well by but we. Then we didn't know that Adam was gonna talk about restaurants and just standing ovation for the backstory. Like Adam is not a to. Our knowledge is not an actor. A performance with the politics is loving. You know listeners. None of this uh-huh I if I can. I have a surprise for all three of you. L. Prepare a little scared but okay up for grabs is a fifty dollar. Give in to G. P. History in two one and to g one P history. This is an impromptu trivia match so neither have been ninety four trivia questions. Thirty one of them are open questions. Sixty three of them are multiple choice out of the ninety four questions. I want you guys to guess. Your percentage that you've gotten correct each of you so Jan.. How many have you got cracked? How many his alley? What percentage has gotten correct and then Matt what percentage of the time have agenda and allied both been wrong here comes the numbers guy with his percents? Utah the ship percents you have to guess what percentage with well whoever's called percentage right forty three percent of the time not quite half is that really is for yourself but a lot of confidence okay from Harlem. Okay always thought that I'm terrible at Trivia and then one day a fan did this same analysis and it turned out. I was more right than I thought which is a larger that it's much larger issue around my self esteem apparently button so I think I'm going to say I get thirty percent correct. I think you have more right than I do. I should be only twenty eight. I do think I get more right than you do. Only because the fan said that you were killing again I wasn't that might have been twenty episodes ago. Yeah so if you say you're good at it people like you were you. We had no problem with it so I thought you're really good at it and then the fan told me that was getting more competence confidence because people leave you guys think you better already percent correct. Probably a very good at all. I just know it was better than Jen. Just certainly not even at thirty. It's a complicated table here because you're factoring in the the early questions which did not have multiple choice as the thirty one questions that were non multiple choice you guys got all of those wrong spent pulling your average way down right. So what are we. What are we shooting for? The average overall overall including those those Adam might actually shooting for the average out of ninety four questions. He's thirty one. Okay so question okay so so to figure out what you think you were doing okay on the multiple choice one and then pull it down. Okay then I got ten percent correction. Yeah no because I have to go. I have to go lower than you. I hate that all right. Yeah eight percent have to. They're looking at a larger back alleys in for ten and Matt. What's your gas S. percentage of the time the Genitalia are both wrong? This is hard. This is hard because I I don't know that you should factor in. It's like to play two different games. The pre multiple choice in post multiple choice but if I have to factor them altogether. I'M GONNA say that they lift I'M GONNA say eighty percent. I'm going to say that well right. It's one of them. Get it right. I'M GONNA say seventy percent wrong that where nobody got it. Overall it's got to be higher the Oh right. 'cause usually one or the other. Yeah a lot of statistics that are beyond my pay grade the winner. Yes the winner of the fifty dollars trader. Joe's Gift Card is so what does her percentage. So here's the Kicker Gen. are all-star with Ali. Ali Has Gotten Twenty questions. Correct or a winning percentage of twenty one point three percent. Wow Sire Jen. Dan Has Gotten twenty-one correct. Winning twenty two point three percent so jail the current in the last few weeks. I've been really well. Yeah winner until the last couple of weeks. Ah Nobody got the questions right before multiple choices that there were thirty one questions. Nobody got them right. Allie was closer to the. That's essentially a wash right. I was close on one of them. Cool which one was I close on how to go back and check my model atom. Yes can I call you baby from Mike Trump. Thanks for listening to yourself hi baby.

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Episode 15: You Asked. We Answered.

Inside Trader Joe's

25:26 min | 1 year ago

Episode 15: You Asked. We Answered.

"Here's a quick taste of this episode of inside. Trader Joe's, we are here today with a couple of special guests to help us answer questions about trainer outs. Some of them are real doozies. There's some tough stuff here. How come there's no wifi at trader Jess was that submitted by one of my kids? Trader why don't you just like every place else? Absolutely not. Why don't you carry diverse over to you? Mitch. From the trader Joe's mothership in Monrovia, California. Let's go inside trader Joe's. I'm Tara Miller. The director of words and phrases in plazas, and I'm still manslaughter on the marketing product. You know, if people weren't so curious about trader Joe's, we wouldn't have the fearless fire or our Instagram or Pinterest, or YouTube or this podcast. And we probably wouldn't have a national chain of neighborhood stores, either. So thanks for being so inquisitive about trader Joe's a few episodes back. We invited our podcast listeners to Email us their questions about trader Joe's and you did not disappoint. And we don't want to disappoint you. Some of our trader Joe's crew members are here to answer as many questions as possible even the hard ones. John and Mitch can you do a little quick intro of yourselves and tell folks, who you are what you do while you're here. That's a big essential questions. I know. Okay, I'll start. Hi, I'm John bass loan president of stores and trader Joe's something that sounds important, but, but really is. And Bama, trader Joe's for twenty nine years now, just celebrated my twenty nine th anniversary started in Santa Barbara a crew member when my criteria for finding a job was that I wanted to be able to wear shorts to work over to you. Mich, my news, Mitch eager, and I'm the executive vice president for marketing merchandising. So I'm lucky enough to oversee those departments and work with a group of people deliver rape products to our stores mills company for forty two years. Just celebrated my anniversary. Wow. Longtime, I hate to say it makes me feel so old you were three when you start Jackson. That's incredible. So we have, you know, between you two over seventy years of trader Joe experience here. We'll give you the early bird. Special on the way out. But I mean, that is a lot of experience and a lot of time taking care of this business. So this is a perfect setup to answer these questions fire when we really got a ton of questions and this is a great one. It's so powerfully simple. How do you get to know what customers want? It's a good question. You know, we pride ourselves on listening to our customers. And we always say that customer votes with their dollars. We're always looking at products that sell really well we're always looking at products that may not sell as well. So if something's not selling as well with discontinue that product we don't have an ever expanding stored small, and I think that leads to another question that actually did come in from a few customers, is it possible to get advanced notice, if it products going to be discontinued, we've tried that before. And it seems like every time we try we fail either the product is in some areas really successful so stores, just jump all over it and goes to one area or store. See that, oh, that's gonna be discontinued its kind of. A bad seller anyway. So they don't order it insists in a warehouse I'm down to my last jar pickled green beans. I bought ten cases back in nineteen eighty. The inside scoop on that to see you knew, John, this is one for you. I'm going to read this. Why a why can't you expand the store to double capacity? The aisles are tight in the store is jammed with humans on a mission. Shelves are packed and variety is limited think humans on a mission could be a whole sub podcast here. But what do you have to say to that? Like, like, why don't we just make the stores bigger? You know, we want our stores to be small intimate feel like a neighborhood store. We maybe you do literally and figuratively bump into somebody, you know, or a crew member and can talk about what you're buying. Our products are what's going on in your lives. That sort of thing, having a cavernous store with wide aisles sounds appealing. But I think when you actually go in and start shopping, and then environment it's a little cold and maybe not as friendly as it could be the size of the store has some other business. Implications were selling food. Most of it doesn't. Any better as sits around and the faster we sell through our inventory, or the inventory. Turn the better it is for everyone buying that stuff because it's fresher. John Lee received another question. How come there's no wifi at traderjoes? Was that submitted by one of my kids? Well, we're, we're sort of holding out that, you know, Elon Musk will be able to deliver that to the entire world. And then we won't have to answer the question or worry about it, folks there to, to shop, and it's a generally speaking, you know, not a long period of time that people are in the store. It sounds like I was submitted by the crew members. Why was going to say we actually have a great source of wireless information. The crew. I mean there there there's a whole crew at trader that, that actually has information about products is knowledgeable about what's in the store if they have a question they don't have to go online. There's so many places that do that now and we're conspicuously different. Hey, trader Joe's, why don't you just like every place else? And that's the spot that we're into say, we choose to be not that perfect example of that. As if our wardrobe didn't already say that, okay? Here's one that came in from the podcast mailbag, and this one was written on a piece of paper. We know early on. You offered made to order sandwiches is that something you'll consider bringing back in the future. Absolutely not. Thank you. Okay. Good. It was the mid eighties during the hours of eleven one people were frantically making sandwiches, and hundreds and hundreds of sandwiches. And these were rate sandwiches, but everything else in the store, basically shut down because there was so much focus on a sandwich shop. And with the way our businesses now, I can't see us having that kind of focus on a program like that those people worked hard, I mean, and they're great, I had him probably every day. Great sandwich. Okay, I'm gonna go for another question that we received from podcast listener. My question is regarding, what makes a product seasonal or one time only and how a customer to know part to have you ever made any seasonal items permanent. Or do you plan to there are some seasons where it's really clear, Halloween through, you know nears? It's pretty clear that that's kind of our holidays as we talk about. But then you have spring, they have summer. We have like Joe, Joe cookies very successful. Joe Joe cookies. So we've come out with Neopolitan, Joe Joe's which I think we kind of call a spring summer in our minds their seasonal in our customers minds. They're there and then they're not. So it can be kind of frustrating, one of our most famous seasonal products ever was mashed potatoes. So are frozen mashed potatoes, which are amazing. They come in middle, you know, pox, you just warm-up. They were seasonal for a long time. And people just kept. Asking us constantly win, mashed potato sees. And so now it's an everyday product. And I think one thing that we want to do, and we've certainly talked about in the merchandising group is changing the terminology from seasonal limited by limited by, you know, it, it explains it a lot more. They kind of know what they're getting into one of the things that we do is constantly introduced new products. And if we took all of those limited by or seasonal type products and made them every day. There'd be no room in the store to introduce new products. So by making some things come and go that gives us the ability to introduce other things that can come and go that you can like something new to like, and then you can get that, again, next year we've got another question. What training do crew members receive regarding small talk at the register is there, a special crash course in this, the instructions, we give our crew rivalry hire? It's pretty simple. It's three things be yourself. We hired you for a reason be genuine. We, there's no scripts, you know, it's not faked or anything like that. And be nice. We can train them how to run the register and how the stock the shelves, but the interactions, not much training since this natural ability that our crew members develop over time is like you can kind of tell right away. Is this person wanna talk to? They just are they busier their thoughts somewhere else. Do they just want me to work as fast as I can get them on their way? Or, you know are the interested in in my opinion on the ending of game of thrones. So I wanna play around of true or not. All right. So true or not our crew members made to complement a purchase in every single customer's basket. You have to say, boy, I liked that salsa to. No not true. Not true. Okay. True or not do crew members have to check in with what your plans are for later that afternoon or the weekend. Not true. Okay. Good. Good. Okay. So I guess this real what are your plans? Well, actually, we're having a birthday party for the middle child. Do you have any true or not small talk? Here's another one. Did you find everything you were looking for? Oh, yes. True or not is that mandatory. By the time the customer gets. It is chilly to ask the question anyway. Not true. All right. Moving on to more questions. Here's a good one. Why are there some a few in parentheses products that are sold under their own brand names, and not a trader Joe's Bram when you look at our store and our products about probably excluding wine, eighty five ninety five percent are private label trader Joe label, but there are some products throughout the store, whether it be kringle or energy bar particular cereals, that we've decided just to keep the branded product because our customers are looking for that it resonates with them as a great product, and we can have a great value on that. And that's something that our customers want. There's a place for that for, you know, getting maybe ten percent of our products is Brandon labels to jargon. Learn the jargon alert here, dim like a sound job when you do like a jargon. Grocery retail jargon, alert branded versus private label what on earth. Do these things mean branded is basically a national brand. It's a consumer packaged goods c p g type of product. It's that brand of razors that brand of cheese whiz. Wait a minute. That is a brand. Okay. Should know what I mean versus private label and private label is actually even more confusing. Private label is just another version of a brand. It just happens to be a different brand. So I actually don't even think of trader Joe's is being private labeled trader Joe's as a brand and our brand stands for certain things. And that's that difference where you hear like private label, no brand own brand self brand branded enough of the branding. Let's just talk about the stuff. But that's kind of the jargon break now. Every trader Joe's looks like trader Joe's. But every trader Joe's looks different at the same time we did get a question in our podcast, mailbag some stores are a lot smaller than the ones. I grew up in how do you figure out where everything goes? When we're trying for is a very consistent feel and experience in all of the stores, but the shape size layups, and all that we can pretty much wedge a trainer. Joe's into any space that send them in a great location. You know, we have stores, that are informer armories, or former movie theaters. And we're looking at one it used to be a bowling alley. And what I'll that would be amazing one long. I'll it really helps to reinforce in customers minds. This is their trader Joe's. There's not another one like it of our four hundred and eighty eight stores. None of them are exactly like. So let's play another quick round of true or not John true or not. You determine the planet Graham for every store in, you decide how many facings each jar of pasta sauce gets. Not trip. Not true. Mitch eager true or not category managers on your team managed categories by the square inch not true. Not true. Explain that a little bit because that just sounds weird. Wait a minute. I think we need jargon, alert sound on that. Plan. Oh graham. It's a thing in most retailers, not just grocery stores, but a lot of retailers determine how each store looks down to the square inch. They send out a plan and those people in those other companies stores execute the plan. And a lot of times those plans are back end funded by the brands, so you make a peanut butter, you make a bag of chips, you pay for more inches on the shelf and those other stores make money off of that placement. We don't have any of that nonsense. So we don't really look at chips, have to have so many linear feet. Always or coffee doesn't have to have X number of shelves each store orders. What they think that they would like to try to sell we're going to find the products. We're going to deliver on the value, and let the stores through the rest who were all trader Joe's and, and they know that what we've ordered and what we have in the warehouse, they're going to sell, but we're not telling them how to do moving. We get a lot of v. Very interesting things that are from incredibly intelligent people. We have a lot of listeners who are in business. They're in education. They're journalists or their professors, or their consultants for, you know, big consulting companies well, a lot of pressure there. Let's see what's a good one. How do you feel about the retail arbitrage strategies being propagated via your products and older? Older. Go trader Joe's feel about other folks selling our stuff online. We don't like it, it really starts to get me a little fired up, actually, you know, because part of the reason why are prices are so low is because of how productive and how much work is put in throughout our company from the buying department all the way through crew members. And how hard they work and when someone comes in and buys the product off the shelf and sells it at a higher price to somebody out there who may not know what the real price is in a trader Joe's, it's not fair on a lot of levels. You know, it's I don't even know where I was headed. But because you got me so emotional. Yeah, I need to go, I think about two different products. And you know, we had this huge phenomenon with cookie butter and stores would order, ten cases and someone come in and say, I'd like ten cases and they just wheel it out for him. So our customers that are coming in every day are not able to find this product, you know, most recently has been the everything but the big. Seasoning where we had people go on come in the store, clear, the shelves put it online for whatever two or three times more customers that are coming in every day. Can't get that product at the great value that, you know, we want them to get it out. I've calmed down a little bit now. This little more reasonably when someone is selling, our products on their own online to other places it, essentially as watering down, our brand, our store is our brand, and we're set up that way on purpose that our products are meant to be sold as part of an overall customer experience. And maybe something that we've mentioned on past podcasts this situations, really, really tricky for us because we understand that people might live in Juneau, Alaska and want that cookie butter. But we don't have a store there and opening a store, there might not make sense for us for a long time. Maybe ever who sorry, sorry, Juneau Juneau on this topic? This is a good one. Another question in from listeners mail order online ordering delivery. What's up? I was the question. Yeah. It's just go back to my last answer. Right. Our brand is the store, and so that necessarily means like a real store for us. Right. Like, like it's not an online store. It's an actual place. What you lose when, when you start putting things online for someone to just do that or order their groceries online and then just pick them up at the door. What you lose is the sense of discovery. I'm so the real magic in our stores is when people find all this stuff that isn't on their list, and not just from a hey, that really helps us grow our business and, and all that kind of stuff. It's also fun and interesting for our customers to have that experience. We'll ask them are you finding everything on your list, and how much is in your carpet isn't on your list, and it's amazing? It's about fifty fifty sometimes I pick up the phone, and it's someone asking me, you know, saying, we have a great program that you could use to sell online, and every single time I take one of those calls than I explain what we do and why we do it that call ends with you, actually know who you are. You know who your customers are and you understand how your business works and thanks? This question comes up every now and then and we did receive it. Why don't you carry diapers over to you Mitch? Really gets back to, you know, the size of the store, we've had requests for before many things that we just we don't space for we know that customer, go say, God, if you only had baby food it wouldn't have to go somewhere else. Does not true. They're still going to have to go somewhere else. And, and I find myself going somewhere else. Everybody does I enjoy going to trader Joe's. So I'm gonna go there two or three times a week. And then I know I have to stop somewhere else for those other essential products at that they don't carry we love your kids. Stickers stickers. Mitch this question for you. Does trader Joe's commission specific products to be made or does trader Joe's just hunt down products that someone is already making or is it a combination of it's a combination of the two we have a team of innovators and developers that kind of have an idea of what they want, and they go track down a vendor and say, hey, we'd like you to make this for us in many cases, it's not being made already? So, basically is our product and our concept, rarely is it. Oh, hey. You make that in that label just make it for us in our label. And we we're looking for unique products. You know, those exciting parts of customers come in for and thinking of the shock Shuka. I mean that's on restaurant menus everywhere. But I've never seen it at retail. I remember when it came to the tasting. I mean many of us were not familiar with it. I think we talked for thirty minutes about whether or not it should include an egg. We did. You're right. Absolutely. We can't emphasize enough. How important the tasting panel process is having a group come together on weekly basis. And make some decisions you know, based on what we think our customers are gonna want if it can't be delivered at a price that makes sense for our customers than just do it. So our allegiance if you will is with our customers, so we're not behold into the vendor our supplier, but we have a partnership with we pay our suppliers, when they deliver the product, and we, pay them in full, we don't expect them to pay us to put their product on the shelf, and that to me that drives up costs on every single level. Other retail organizations might be a little bit jaded about that. And they might feel that, you know, I rent out my shelf space, and I'm I make money there, and I have cooperative advertising, I make money there. And we're not interested in those things. And so it really is about stuff to sells well. All right. So here's a question that came in from podcast listener in more than one episode, you've talked about taking risks with new ideas. And then once you have commercial success other retailers, jump on the bandwagon. Does that frustrate you? It's kind of flattering that's fine. Because we're onto the next thing let's do one more. I don't know if this is even an answerable question. But what's been the least successful product? We thought that Muffin tops would be a really good product because everybody likes to take the top off the Muffin because the rest of know kind of dry. Yeah, it was same upset about. Top of the Muffin was the name of. That's where we got the idea. Yeah. Thank you for your time, both of you guys. Awesome. Okay. Thanks. Thanks for having me on the odd cast anytime. We'll be go with, like talk about some new products coming into stores soon. We can't give you exact dates on most of these things. But we can't say that they should all be coming into the store at some point over the next few months. Matt, what's on your mind? I've been thinking about the map of Italy, and Italy is a boot and you go way, down to the tow. You're in Calabria, and we have what's known as Bomba. B O MBA Italian Bomba hot pepper sauce. It's very simple. It's almost a SaaS almost top nod consistency of a spread is, basically for mentored Calabrian peppers chopped up some oil, some salt, a little bit of basil. It's very spicy. It's very reflective of collaboration cuisine. It's this flavor bomb. It's delicious stuff. I can't wait to throw that on some L dente pasta. Maybe on a grilled flat bread. I had the opportunity yesterday to see some photos of the farm. Where these these peppers or grown and the peppers are just so vibrantly red, and they dry them and their red hugest increases, and they become more vibrant, and as they dry, and as they apparently, they get even spicier and I'm excited about this. I got to say I'm really excited about a candy product that's coming in that are referred to as organic berry, tiny Gumy's, the re you heard me, Barry. B E. A R Y. They're little teeny tiny gummy bears. And they're being made for us in France, using colors derived from fruits and vegetables, and their flavor is just so bright and they're soft, but they're not too soft, and they've, they're just shoe enough. They're also really good. We have what we're going to call coffee lovers Espresso beans coming out now. We do a land office, business and chocolate covered Espresso. Beans, they're great. This is a version of that. And there are three flavors if you will of chocolate covered Espresso beans, a mocha. Allante and in the spread. So it's a little two and a half ounce bag which if you ate the whole bag you'd be like going wacko. Okay. So here's another one and grab the jar the, the actual name of the product is creamy pink Primavera pasta, sauce, lots of alliteration there. Yes. Tomato is the first ingredient. But the second ingredient is beats I am not a fan of beets, but this is a delicious sauce what you get from the beats instead of that regular earthy flavor is you really get the sweetness when you combine them with the tomatoes. And so the sauce has, has a real like natural sweetness, but there's zero added sugar in the sauce. I love it go another jars thing here, and this is a preserve of, of fruit spread, and it's made for us. It's actually comes from Belgium, and the company behind this has a lot of experience making jams and preserves. And this is a strawberry rose fruit spread, and it's this beautiful. Combo. It makes me think of the crown set of strawberries, which is the first flush of berries on a strawberry plant, and the first roses of spring, if I remember correctly, that's a limited by. Right. You know, hopefully it won't last long. We bought one big quantity. And when that's gone, that's all we have. Okay, one more that I'm thinking about really looking forward to our these crepe wafer cookies. So I would describe these as you finally make it to Paris. You're on vacation the highlight tour says, if you're gonna eat an ice cream in Paris, you go to bear t on, on ill Saint Louis, which is this little island in the middle of the San right in the middle of Paris, so wonderful ice cream place and you get ice cream and it's like, whoa, I get like a free little cookie, which is a very European thing. Like you're like here in the states, you don't get a free cookie in. They're very light. They're very crispy. I would think of it's like, you know, you get back home and you're still missing Paris, and you wish your at the ice cream shop at least you got these cookies. These are delicious. Thanks again, for all of the questions, we really wish we could get to all of them. But remember, you can ask any crew member any neighborhood trader Joe's questions like these anytime, and thanks for rating inside trader Joe's on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Oh and met. There's a new development in the podcast world. If you Google inside trader Joe's, or even just trader Joe's podcast, you can find our episodes in the search results and even listen, right there in your browser. Of course, if you really wanna make sure you catch the next episode when it's released click the free subscribe button on your podcast app. It is free and it's worth every penny until next time. Thanks for listening. And thanks for listening.

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Thanks so you'll hear from any current trader joe's personnel in this rebroadcast either. I hope you enjoy it nonetheless. Let's play shark tank today. You're the investors shark tank. If you don't know is the t._v. Show where people pitch business ideas to famous investors. You might be mark cuban or mr wonderful. You're trying trying to side. Would you invest and that is michael roberto. He's a business professor at bryant university formerly of the harvard business school. There's one lecture. He likes to start start by giving his students. This fictional shark tank pitch. I'd like to open a new kind of grocery store. We're not gonna have any branded items. It's all going to be private private label. We're going to have no television advertising and no social media whatsoever. We're never going to have anything on sale. We're not going to accept coupons. We'll have no loyalty card. We won't have a circular that appears in the sunday newspaper will have no self checkout. We won't have wide aisles or big parking lots uh-huh. Would you invest in my company. And of course you're supposed to think there is no way i'd invest in that company. That sounds like the stupidest company ever and of course get a lot of consternation. That's when roberto reveals that not only does such a grocery store already exist but they're crushing the competition there at the top by wide wide wide margin the sales per square footage estimates are unbelievable means three and four times better some of the leading players in the industry so it sounds like customer customer love this place but you might think a store like this would be brutal to work for and yet it's ranked among the hundred best american companies work for so what's it called trader. Joe's trader joe's true. Joe's trader joe's trader. Joe's i do love traderjoes. There is a good chance you have never shopped at a trader. Joe's maybe never even heard of it. It's got fewer than five hundred stores. The big chains like kroger in albertson's have well over two thousand walmart sells groceries and more than four thousand vits stores and as michael roberto told us trader joe's doesn't advertise is or do a lot of things. The typical grocery store does the typical grocery store has skew count skews stands for stock keeping unit so it's a number of different items carrying a store what's vividly grocery store or supermarket might have thirty five thousand skews right a tremendous selection and variety you go to trader joe's and they only have say three thousand listen stock keeping units and the typical trader joe's grocery business is famous for low profit margins lots of competition and lately an even bigger problem for the first time in history. American consumers are spending more money in restaurants and bars than in grocery stores trader. Joe's seems to be bucking this. This downward trend. It doesn't just have customers. It has fans the first thing i do when i know i'm going somewhere is get on the internet and find where the closest trader joe's is. It's never been easy to run a grocery chain trader. Joe's makes it look easy and weirdly fun. I don't walk into trader. Joe's goes with a strong to do list. It's not a chore when i walk into trader. Joe's it's a variety seeking exercise. So how did he do it. That's the question will try to answer today. A question made more difficult by the fact that trader joe's is a fairly secretive company and i think that some of the secrecy is probably due to who owns them so we put on our freakonomics goggles in an attempt to reverse engineer the secrets of trader joe's which it turns out are incredibly freakonomics. Things like choice architecture decision theory things like nudging and and an embrace of experimentation in fact if freakonomics were the grocery store. It might be a trader joe's or at least try to be. It's like a real life case study of behavioral economics at work so here's the big question if trader joe's really so good should their philosophy be applied applied elsewhere to trader joe's. I can't believe i'm going to say this but should trader joe's be running america <hes> from stitcher and w productions this is freakonomics radio the podcast that explores the hidden side of everything everything. Here's your host stephen duffner. I got interested didn't trader joe's about ten years ago never been to one of their stories but i had a general impression cheap and cheerful relatively laid back and sort of groovy for a grocery store apparently reflection of its urfi california roots also not aggressively health conscious but leaning in that direction and then i read a wall street journal article about a german grocery chain called aldy that was ramping up its u._s. Expansion all the is a super cheap super generic grocery restored more than ninety percent of its products house brands and it was beating even walmart on price. The article said the audi chain had two branches back in germany separately <music> owned by two wealthy brothers named albrecht and that one of those branches also owned trader joe's i found this fact surprising only because when i think of german business practices i don't think of a groovy earthy crunchy california surfer vibe but there it was i also learned that trader. Joe's stores stores were much smaller in typical supermarkets that they had their own way of doing things and the places without trader. Joe's often started petitions to bring one to their town. It was the sort of loony devotion usually reserved for sports teams or your favorite band kinda grocery store following like that and then when i learned that trader goes out sells all other grocery stores per square foot. I really started paying attention. Then one opened up near my office here in new york started shopping shopping there and for the most part loving it. I realize it's not for everyone. In fact predator strategy is trying not to be for everyone but i did wanna know the secrets to their success we reached out to the trader. Joe's headquarters in monrovia california and we're politely told to get lost as we mentioned earlier. The company is known for secrecy. The two brothers who founded aldy north and south in germany. You know have a record of that michael roberto again that was kind of the family heritage of really being pretty secretive about their business operations and really they weren't even you couldn't even find photos of them on the internet for years you know i mean they were very secretive. It's a strange combination affirm that prides itself on user-friendliness while also keeping its distance which means that a lot of what's known about it comes from from industry analysts and other secondary sources blitz start here in the very beginning. There really was joe behind trader joe's joe colom. He opened the first store in nineteen sixty seven in pasadena california. He went with a south seas theme beechy judge kaz hawaiian shirts calling employees captains and crew members in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine colom sold the chain to one of the secretive albrecht brothers feel feel albrecht was a recluse. Perhaps it was said because he had once been kidnapped and held for ransom for seventeen days in germany albrecht died died in two thousand ten betrayer. Joe's remains notoriously press shy. It's also a privately held company so no earnings calls with investment investment analysts no public proclamations of any sort really about how it does business and so to figure out how it works will rely on a few people who've spent a lot of time thinking about trader joe's including the business school professor michael roberto whom you've already met correct also the columbia business school. Oh professor sheena anger whose research specialty is particularly relevant here. I've been studying choice. Why do we want choice. What are the things that affect how in in what we choose and what are some things we can do to improve our choice making abilities. We'll also talk to a trader joe's superfan. My name is kirk disarming. I i reside in seward. Alaska seward by the way does not have a trader joe's nor does the state of alaska. The closest store from disarming amis house is two thousand and two hundred ninety five miles away by car in bellingham washington to serbia is the guy who heard earlier say this the first thing i do when i know i'm going somewhere is get on internet and find where the closest trader joe's is and we'll hear from a spy in the house of trader joe's a former advertising executive creative named mark gardener who became obsessed with the chain and i just had this thought like you know what if i just went and worked there. You're what would i learn about. This company. Gardner learned about the company. Is it just about everything trader. Joe's does outside of exchanging food for money is unorthodox for modern grocery store. There's a lot to talk about the products of course the economics of their business model. They're very homemade. Do it yourself aesthetic including the hand painted murals that reflect the neighborhood of every store but let's start with one of the first things i noticed when i started shopping there the employees yes they are friendly and helpful and enthusiastic appear to joe is what they want his employees the who have sampled the product who know the product who can say have you tried this wine or cheese but what really caught my eye was the sheer number of employees. There are so many of them. If you go in during slow time you can easily be outnumbered by employees and their t._j.'s t shirts and in hawaiian prints one reason is that rather than stocking shelves overnight like most grocery stores trader. Joe's stocks them during business hours. Why mark gardner learned when he went to work there. The priority is to maximize customer interaction so they would tell us. They're going to be looking for customers ours who seem like they can't find something that they want or just seem curious about something. You're gonna initiate conversations with these people and that we want you to be be friendly. We want you to be shoddy. We want you to be empathetic and more than anything else. We want you to do what it takes to make. Customers feel appreciated and wanted so that explains why there's so many employees in the aisles but they're also a ton of employees staffing the checkout on one level. This makes sense makes the long checkout line move fast and check out after all is where store takes the customers money lesson the number one in sales. Don't make it hard for people to give you their money but trader joe's also has employees directing traffic at the checkout line one telling you which registered to go to one pulling you out of the big q and into the final q. and one or two holding up handmade signs marking taking the middle of the queue and the beginning. That's three or four employees do the job that most stores us zero employees to do or maybe they use some software traderjoes seems to be aggressively low tech no self checkout aisles no online ordering and pick up no customer loyalty programs and apparently trader joe's gathers no significant data on customers at all in the modern business world. This is heresy if you shop but whole foods which is owned by amazon you can be sure the company has an algorithm mc target on your back trader. Joe's meanwhile really didn't doesn't matter if it was a little lady that was looking for one five dollar bottle of wine and if if the wine shipment had just come in the back and i would go and look and look through one hundred different cases and see if i could find a one that she wanted and get her one bottle of wine if i spent fifteen minutes doing that and that that made that customer really happy then the managers were happy and the store was happy so this is a riddle here's a company that doesn't hardest big data yeah and doesn't generally seem to embrace a lot of technology it employs a lot of real live people and he's them above the industry standard heard as of two thousand and thirteen fulltime trader. Joe's crew members made about fifty thousand dollars. A year while captains made more than one hundred thousand also with better than average benefits fits but this is also a company that sells its products at very low prices according to one of those investigations comparing basket of items at a bunch of different in grocery stores. This one was done in two thousand sixteen by the market watch website in the san francisco bay area trader joe's was easily. The cheapest compared to safeway target target and whole foods was thirty two percent cheaper than whole foods so how on earth can trader joe's as michael roberto told us taking the most revenue per square square foot in the industry there at the top by a wide wide margin a two thousand twelve analysis estimated that trader joe's sells just over two thousand dollars dollars of groceries per square foot wholefoods about twelve hundred dollars walmart six hundred dollars. How is this happening. We should probably start with the products trae. Jim sells here. Let me read off some of what they say are the most popular items spatchcock lemon rosemary chicken and carney asada authentic kohlrabi salad blend and cold pressed macho green tea lemonade seesaw and turbans sugar chocolate almonds german's and go to junk comments peanut butter filled pretzels and five seed almond bars from the freezer section chicken tikka masala allah and gluten free cheese pizza with cauliflower crust. These are the sort of foods that laid up instagram accounts and facebook pages that inspire your financial devotion. Even among people who don't have a trader joe's within twenty three hundred miles like kirk serbia who works as a facilities manager for the national park service in alaska. Whenever i leave the state i usually by a couple of hundred dollars worth of goods and i have an extra suitcase suitcase or duffel bag with me in my luggage to serbia and his duffel bag been all over. I've been i know to some in portland in oregon <hes> reno nevada all over southern california. There's a number of them. My wife is from kentucky and so we've been to they have one in louisville now as well as indianapolis <hes> i go to d._c. About once a year for work and ah love to go to the trader joe's and georgetown what is it about trader joe's foods that create such a lust lust. Let's put aside for moment. The question of how good their food is especially since taste is subjective at least to some degree but there are a few things to to say about how trader joe's is at least different from typical grocery store. I there is a sense of globetrotting adventure the masala the carne any asada goto jong almonds. That's why sheena anger thinks of shopping there as variety exercise. Oh let's see what kind of candy bars they have. They usually have cooper's. Let's see what kind of deals they might have on wines cheeses are. They're prepared food sections kind of cool. What might they have. That could add some more variety to the house. The also offer a rather unsubtle blend of healthy or at least healthy seeming and hedonistic. Yes you can buy kohlrabi salad and cauliflower crust pizza but you've also got peanut butter filled pretzels and seesaw and turban auto auto sugar chocolate almonds speaking of which turban nado sugar also known as natural brown sugar still sugar why why add the turban auto. I have a few guesses one to say. You're just adding sugar to your already. Chocolate covered almonds doesn't sound very healthy but trigger nado sugar. <hes> intriguing possibly even sophisticated additionally trader. Joe's seems to understand what everyone in sales understands especially real estate agents adjectives are inexpensive and often useful especially when dan the actual virtues are limited. A charming house is often in fact small house trader joe's reportedly puts a great deal of effort into scouting sourcing and producing food that their customers truly love but they also pay a lot of attention to package design and descriptive salesmanship ship their marketing director is called director of words and phrases and clauses they publish an old fashioned newsprint bulletin the fearless ms flyer with indepth descriptions of new products when you walk into a trader joe's there's a playful vibe as if to say hey. You're just just buying food. Food is delicious so enjoy yourself is also an artsy vibe. A writer leave five more so oddly enough half than in a typical bookstore these details as casual as they might seem would also appear to be strategic in two thousand eleven interview with the l. a. times joe colom said that when he started trader joe's in the nineteen sixties he was inspired by an article he read in scientific american about a huge spike in americans attending college. I felt this newly educated. Class of people would want something different. You were called and that was the genesis of traderjoes later joe's why did he choose pasadena as the first store location because he said pasadena is the epitome of a well educated town trader trader. Joe's is for over educated and underpaid people for all the classical musicians museum curator's and <hes> journalists he said head this suggests from the very beginning trader joe's understood cream skimming targeting a certain kind of customer and leading the rest slide by as for the underpaid part of columbus equation that would appear to be outdated and analysis by time magazine found that as of two thousand fifteen trader trader joe's stores were located in counties with higher household median income than any other grocery chain including whole foods and about ten thousand dollars was higher than u._s. Median income but in this seems to be another key component of trader joe's success they also value for galaxy is michael roberto found they usually usually set up shop in the cheaper parts of the expensive areas frankly in many cases there in sort of old strip malls so they've save money on the real estate the real estate firms zillow hello found that homes near trader joe's stores appreciate more quickly than homes in the city as a whole concluding that either trader joe's is really good at picking taking areas that are on the rise or that. They are in part causing the rise. So how about a new store in seward alaska that is correct term is dream so i started a facebook page called. Bring trader joe's to alaska. This was in two thousand twelve. I thought man these guys. Maybe they just don't know what they're missing yet. <hes> if i can create this facebook page and i can get people around the state to start liking it and sending trader joe's an email to say hey. We would really love to see your store here than maybe trader. Joe's will actually listen to us so after one of his out of town trader joe's shopping binges when i come home with a suitcase full i like to throw it on the kitchen table and take a picture of it and put <music> out there hopefully to motivate people to send that email to trader joe's and let them know where we're out here. His facebook page got some traction about twelve hundred likes. I would say most of my friends in seward are aware that this is something that i'd like to see happen unless you think to serbia me is one of those guys who makes a facebook page for everything. No some of my friends might say i'm fairly politically active but honestly. I can't think of any other store that i might think to start a page to bring up here. Seward alaska does have a relatively high median household income but population and is a problem fewer than three thousand people discern me a concedes that anchorage a few hours away would be more sensible site for the first trader joe's in alaska and he'd happily make the drive. He just really wants a trader. Joe's every time i go to a trader joe's in the lower forty-eight. They always look sideways at me when i when i'm getting two to three hundred dollars worth of goods but i tell them because we live in alaska and we can't get you guys come up here and since i started this page in two thousand twelve and they've never responded to single email. It seems a little unlikely but hopefully they're going to listen to this interview and then my percentage will go up coming up after the break. We'll get into the economic details of trader. Joe's success success will hear how they flip the script on customer relations just imagine if you would one if you changed the rules. 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Transfer wise even has a multi-currency account that lets you hold over forty currencies and convert them when you like test them out for free transfer wise dot com slash freakonomics comics or download the app today of all the mysteries concerning concerning the success of trader. Joe's here's what strikes me as the most interesting one. Their stores as we've learned are generally quite small roughly a third the size of typical supermarket michael roberto again. We're all acclimated to every other supermarket looks the same and has thirty five thousand items. It has seven million and variety of toothpaste in a tomato sauce. Every other player has all those things betray joe's they only have say three thousand stock keeping units and the typical trader joe's or four thousand most in one of their larger stores moreover as we've learned trader. Joe's prices are relatively low and yet they also take in much higher revenues and stores that have more variety and more expensive items so how remember trader joe's doesn't sell a lot lot brand name groceries roughly eighty percent of their products are private label items also known as store brands with that means trader joe's has mitigated the power that supplier supplier might have over them so while they're not nearly as big as krogers and they can get great purchasing power because they're condensing all they're buying tomato sauce to one vendor for a very limited number of items and when you're selling something that you also manufacture or at least source directly you obviously stand to make more money than if you're buying from a middleman that said even store branded products need tastes good judging from the chain's success. They do in fact some trader. Joe's branded items may taste identical to brand name foods. Why because it appears they are identical tentacle an investigation by the food website eater using freedom of information act requests found that many trader joe's items are in fact manufactured factored by the same companies that make the brand name versions of products that you can buy many other grocery stores usually for significantly more money for instance. Those trader joe's shows pita chips with sea salt. They appear to be exactly the same as stacy's simply naked pita chips trader joe's gluten free chocolate chip cookies according to the investigation are quote nearly identical in taste packaging and ingredients to tate's bake shop cookies. There's nothing wrong with this since hardly unusual for brand name manufacturers to run side business selling to private labels but most places that sell a lot of house brands are seen as downmarket discounters not upmarket superstars like trader joe's so why are they different. Some of the credit must go to the clever packaging and the artful product descriptions but to get to the real secret of trader. Joe's i think might be the single biggest reason for its success. Yes you have to go back to sheena anger. I have been at the columbia business school. Since nineteen ninety eight and i started to study choice way back in nineteen ninety angers h._d. Is in social psychology as an undergrad add. She double majored in psychology and economics. She was born in toronto to parents who demonstrated from india her background. She believes gave her a different perspective on decision-making when she started working in the field and i got very interested in the kinds of questions that we wouldn't ordinarily asked like well into all cultures see choice in the same way we had assumed that it was an eight we had assumed that everybody thought the same way that we somehow universal an i am i i think because i was an asian american. I didn't see it as that obvious. She wanted to explore this question with kids from different backgrounds her theory. It was an asian american kids. White american kids might think differently about choice before comparing the two groups. She wanted to establish a baseline to confirm terme that for the white kids choice indeed had a positive effect. This baseline experiment turned out to be pretty interesting on its own. Here's here's how it worked. She brought a bunch of three year olds. One by one into a room full of toys half of them were allowed to choose any toy and they could switch as they pleased the other half would be given just one toy with no option to switch. I started by looking at white american kids because i had to. I bausch showed that i'm capable of actually replicating what prior scientists would say what prior scientists would say and had been saying for decades is that choice is motivating that having choice or even the illusion of choice is associated with increased satisfaction and feeling more control over your life therefore the kids who could choose their toy should be happier for having the options and more likely to play longer. These ideas about choice were prominent not just in psychology edgy. They were baked into the foundation of economic thinking at the time that more choice is almost always better than less choice but when anger started her study study and brought in the kids who could choose from an entire room full of toys the white kids would come in and they would look at all these toys and stare outside the window and then when i would just give them legos. There were really happy and they're playing and i was like wait. This goes totally against what i'm supposed to find. There's something wrong here so anger went back and examined some of those earlier studies about choice and decision making she realized that when those researchers described giving people lots of choice in reality that meant something like two to six options not a roomful like she had tried so anger iran different study this time limiting the number of choices and now she confirmed what her predecessors had found but she kept thinking about what happened in that first study study with the room full of toys. Were they staring out the window. I don't get it. I gave them really really cool toys. I gave them all the most modern toys at the same time. I was going to this upscale grocery store. The store is called draggers market. It's a northern california institution. Anger was at stanford at the time so they had like two hundred fifty different kinds of mustard in vinegars and mayonnaise and five hundred different kinds of fruits and vegetables instable than one hundred different kinds of olive oil and oh my god it was amazing and i would go to all these little tasting sessions and try out like ten different kinds of vinegars and i also thought to myself well how come you never by any of those things you taste and then went to the store manager and i asked asked him whether his model of offering people all this choice was working now he said he did and he pointed to the traffic and this story did have a lot of traffic but it was still an empirical question. Was it helping or was it not so anger designed an experiment at dreyer's to answer the question she said up tasting booth for jams and she alternated the choice set. Sometimes the booth would feature six different jams and sometimes twenty four and we looked at two. Thanks thanks. I we looked at in which case did more people stopped the sample some jam and we found that more people stopped when they were twenty four on display sixty percent stop when they were twenty four on display versus when there were six on display only forty percent of the people stopped and then when people stopped we gave everybody nobody a coupon giving them one dollar off if they bought a jar of jam and in the back of the coupon was code that told us if they saw six versus twenty four now what what we found was that of the people who stopped when there were twenty four display. Only three percent of those coupons were redeemed whereas of the people who stopped when there were six on display thirty percent of the coupons were redeemed an interesting allergic choice set generates more interest. The smaller choice set generates more action. Sheena angers jam study very simple but very powerful go on to become one of the most famous studies in decision science because it illustrates what a lot us feel when we enter for instance gigantic supermarket with the fining illustrated we said we want more choice presumably because of all the opportunities it provides us but when it comes down to making a choice we don't want that choice to be too hard or too conflict ridden or too burdensome i- anger occur followed up her jam study with a look at employee participation in retirement savings plans and essentially what we found was that the plans that offered offered their employees more options you saw real decrease in participation rates so if you had a plan that offered people less than five options <hes> the likelihood to participate was roughly around seventy five percent and by the time you've got to plans that offered people around sixty options now l. participation rates had dropped below sixty percent. This phenomenon has come to be called the paradox of choice but i- anger doesn't think that's quite right. It's not that more choices always worse than that. Less is always better. She argues that choice is both limiting and a powerful tool. Every context is different. You can imagine that a huge choice set is particularly welcome in the digital realm where you can search for exactly what you want with a few key strokes assuming that is you know what you want but in the analog world in the world of grocery store for instance the size of a choice choice set matters not just because of the cost of real estate and transportation storage and labor stock the shelves but because of how we people people make decisions envision a shelf in a typical supermarket seven million varieties of toothpaste tomato sauce and a trader joe's shelf. It doesn't overwhelm me. It usually gives me just a few choices per domain and having just a few choices per domain is more likely to lead lead to action imagine yourself standing in an aisle and trader joe's you come across their five seed almond bars and your lizard brain in says well. There are no foresee domine bars or six seed in bars. I don't even know why i need seeds almond bars but sure i think i'll get some of those. Traderjoes understands less is more. It understands to use a word of the moment curation. They don't overwhelm wellm you with choice. Which is why you're more willing to examine each novel choice. There is a story probably probably not true about michelangelo. Someone supposedly asked him how difficult it had been to sculpt his famous david and he said it's easy just chip away the stone. That doesn't look like david. I am not saying trader. Joe's is quite michelangelo's level but you get the idea. There is great value. Oh you clearing away. The clutter which is one reason sheena. Anger personally loves shopping at trader. Joe's it doesn't give me the boring stuff offering keeps me excited because i wanna see what do they have. And what do they have. That might get me thinking about something. I don't ordinarily think about so they also maintain the mystery a street of novelty for me. Novelty is also a powerful tool in sales and this to trader joe's understands it is famous for constantly gently introducing new products experimenting with them really which means old products have to go. Maybe they'll come back. Maybe they won't this strategy would would appear to be risky normally a typical grocery store. If the item that you typically bought isn't there you're really pissed right. You're mad michael roberto again it trader. Joe's customers have come. I'm do understand that that's part of the trade off. You might see your peach mango salsa disappear but there'll be something new to try that you can offer at your next cocktail party freddie and while people with anger notes this strategy also gives every trip to trader joe's a sense of a treasure hunt but that our appetite for novelty is domain specific. I deliberately go into that venue that venue being trader joe's because i wanna learn about some choices. I'm trying to update my brain on choices but when i go into my coffee shop in the morning i do not engage gauge in any act of updating. I don't wanna know i walk into my coffee shop every morning. I don't even say anything they just bring. Bring me out exactly what they bring me every other day and it's made exactly the same and i have no interest in engaging in any kind of variety seeking seeking discover trader joe's totally by accident. That's mark gardner again. The former advertising executive who ended up working at traderjoes. He was living in california at the time. I thought it was a local store but had a kind of a surf theme and i didn't know any better because they don't do any advertising i was exposed to it happened to be in my neighborhood. Then gardner moved moved to kansas city. Yes and that's when i really learned about trader joe's as a company because there was no trader joe's but there were these rumors rumors of but we're gonna get a trader joe's and there was so much excitement. There's a facebook page called. Bring trader joe's to kansas city that has five thousand thousand friends as a former advertising. Guy gardner was impressed. I think the number one thing that struck me about trader. Joe's it is that they almost don't advertise at all. They don't market they. They have a pretty good website now but but for years ears at a rudimentary website had almost no social media presence they had almost no kind of public relations so they didn't do you a whole bunch of things that i had spent my entire working life thinking well. These are the things that you do when you build a brand so oh that was really striking to me and i had this thought like you know what if i went and worked there. What would i learn learn about. This company. Garner learned enough about the company by working there that he wrote a book about it called build a brand lake trader. Joe's how did trader joe's respond well as you know. They're very very secretive company so they responded <hes> exactly the way i expected which was with utter silence. What initially impressed gardner was how trader joe's had grown so much without spending all the money that most firms spend on marketing advertising and so on but what impressed him once he got inside working as a crew member for twelve dollars. An hour was the company's culture well before the new kansas city. The store had opened on the first or second day of training a trader. Joe's executive came in to meet with roughly fifty new hires including gardner the proceedings things began with that standard horrifying requests to say your name and tell a story about yourself and i am not kidding you. Fifty hands went up. It was all these people are picked me. I wanted to be the first. I wanna start. I wanna tell you my story and i looked around at that that group of hands going a- and mine was up to you know because i'm not because i love talking about myself but but most people don't at least not to group of strangers and i thought wow how this is not an ordinary group of people and what i realized pretty quickly is oh my god. This is what they hire for the higher for this kind of extroverted naturally chatty person as the training progressed. These sky's really weren't too worried about teaching me how to operate a grocery store right. I mean there were some discussion about you know keeping the colt things cold and how important that is and there was a little bit of discussion about this is how a cash register works about you know when you're bagging groceries. This is how you do it. There was some discussion of process but actually there was a lot of discussion of trader. Joe's values values. There was a tremendous amount of discussion. About how are you going to be with the customers and then once the store opened. No matter how crazy the store was no matter how much pressure there was to do something else if you were doing something for a customer that trumped everything everything seeing how trader joe's encouraged its employees to interact with customers to partner up with them didn't just make sense to gardner it. It inspired him to wonder why this theoretically obvious approach is in fact quite rare consider. He says a standard a trip to the department of motor vehicles but what happens when you go to the d._m._v. Well what happens is you stand on one side of a counter then there's your opponent on the other side side of the counter and it's as if you're in sort of a game or a sport where you're trying to get your license plate or driver's license since they're going to say oh yeah you don't have a an up-to-date inspection certificate for your cars so get out of here right. It's like a volleyball game practically and it's and it's you against them now. What if you change the rules and what have you said you guys are both on the same side your goal is to get them that that driver's license or that license plate that they need and so instead of just saying like you don't have the right inspection. What if you told them look look. This is what's wrong with the certificate that you've got. It's either out of date or it's from the wrong state or whatever and this is where you would go to get the inspection that you need right and let me look at all your other things. I've got here and if there's anything else you need. I'll tell you what you need so that the next time you come. It's going to be a slam dunk for you. What if that was. What if it wasn't adversarial. What if you guys were both on the same side <music>. What if you guys were both on the same side good question. Don't you think look i'm not saying mark. Gardener's example is necessarily fair to the d._m._v. nor am i saying that trader joe's should win the nobel peace prize but it does strike me that a lot of interactions in the modern world are set up to be more competitive than they need me and the benefits of collaboration are are often undervalued. I think back to an interview we did with microsoft ceo saatchi adela who's been reversing microsoft's longstanding policy of treating tech rivals like google and apple as pure rivals and instead sometimes partnering with them. Nothing can be taken for granted that there's no such thing as a perpetual motion machine what you have to do is be good at being able to refresh yourself at the crucial times yeah so if you had the choice. Would you have trader. Joes run the department of motor vehicles and maybe even hello. I'm not serious here except maybe i am. Would you have them run. America released. Would you try to export some of their collaborative. Live frugal. Don't take yourself so seriously methodologies michael roberto the business school professor who's analyzed trader joe's warns. It's not so easy that it wouldn't even be easy for another grocery store to replicate. The trader joe's experience to do what they do. You can't just hire by the same people they hire. You have to emulate the private label strategy the real estate strategy the pricing the quirky culture and it's often the soft oft things not just the kind of people you hire but the way you train them and the culture you create then we can build a store that looks like a trader joe's but when we have people walk in can they have the same experience well that's very hard to replicate fair enough and again i don't mean to heap undue praise on grocery chain just because they found a way to make they're appealing food cheap and treat people pretty well along the way i will say this. We spend a lot of time on this show and in modern in society at large pointing out problems and failures sundry idiocies. It's nice once in a while to come across across an institution. Even if it's just a grocery store the seems to work well for several constituencies on several dimensions and and to see what can be learned from him. 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Sir story about a cable company that is being sued by the recording industry association. Wow it's hard to imagine imagine a conflict where i would side with the cable company according association of america but it is a bunch of music <hes> <hes> the musical cartels basically so meyer yeah exactly <hes>. I don't know about that specific. There's not that many right. I don't want to go into is that part of the story. I don't think that's not particularly interesting but there's you know there's a lot of back and forth in between <hes> the copyright industry will just bite that way and inside regardless of whether we're talking to entertainment or books or whatever so these are this is a <hes> looking at our website having not heard of them previously <hes> it looks like they're they're just major markets <hes> boston chicago dc lehigh valley new york and philly so apparently. I didn't know this and i don't think it actually says it in this particular story but apparently it's a brand and then different. I._s._p.'s licensed that brand name so yeah. That's what i read. You know. I don't know anything other than that's is what i read recently so it just looks like a cable company from their website but go ahead right right right and this story specifically does not say that they simply say are r._c._n. I._s._p. or something to that effect but apparently i guess it's actually multiple companies but anyway defendants operated r._c._n. Is a haven for infringement. Defendants promoted r._c._n.'s high speed internet. This is an excerpt from the lawsuit yet. Okay defendants promoted. R._c._n.'s high internet speeds high-speed nutrient. They're saying hi internet speeds needs to customers knowing that the ability to download copyrighted material illegally using high speed internet without repercussions russian was a substantial draw for infringers. Wow emoji nat imagine somebody writing a high coup ooh and then saying well you can't know anything because if you know things you might know the content of my poem and therefore oh you're forbidden from knowing anything. This is so crazy i mean high speed internet has existed as long as i've been in an adult. I remember existing nineteen nineties where i grew up now bringing this argument right and now of all times it's like you realize is the high-speed that you're getting from cable. Your cable company is also needed to stream that same content legally right yeah. If you want to watch on netflix you need to have a high speed internet right their their argument is just so like what are they thinking like anybody with. Half a brain is going to recognize that this is just this is the most ridiculous argument well. Maybe they bought themselves a nice politician and they can. Maybe the fixes in for being the crazy crazy about this also by judge is that it's it's not like they're the only company that's providing high speed internet access right like you're an all the other companies providing high speed internet have basically the same ah types of policies in regards to the morning copyright act in terms of taking content down and it's never been interpreted as you you have to disconnect users of your internet service unless it's in relation to hosting content because the digital millennium copyright act is explicitly a affectively it says something you have to take the content down if a notice is received and then the other party can post a counter notice to you but the problem is the i._s._p. Never never hosting any of that material. That's interesting sir. It's right. It's the user that is hosting the content in the case of an i._s._p. But the the the internet service providers will do the bidding of the recording industry and a lot of cases where if let's say you're downloading torrent or you're downloading. If you've got a torrent going that means you you might be pulling down some files that may not be might not be legal as far as it could be a movie that the you know the recording industry has licenses is or whatever copyrights on this is one of the common things that people do with torrance and torrance aren't a private method of downloading anybody unless you're behind a v._p._n. You can clearly see a list of all of the i._p. Addresses that are downloading a particular torn and so there are certain torrance out there that are actually monitored where if you go uh-huh and download the latest episode of. I don't know what's a hot t._v. Show right now westworld or something like that. You can download the latest episode of rick and morty and the copyright owner whoever that is <hes> cartoon network or whoever they're actually watching and every time a new i._p. Address pops into that torrent they log that they find out which internet service provider has that i._p. Address in their their range and if they're within the united states they they then send a notice to that internet service provider internet service provider then turns around and sends a notice to the customer associated with that i._p. Address saying well well. We just found out that somebody at your your account. You know they don't know who it was. It could have been your son. It could have been your grandmother because they don't want somebody <hes> sitting outside your house and a car on your life. They're not the ones in control of the server right. They cannot take it down but they send a notice to you and they say you. You must stop this offend offending behaviour immediately or else we may you know we reserve the right to play. This is something that i think is being done voluntarily of you. You know volunteer putin quotes but voluntarily by the i._s._p.'s because there's nothing in the d._m._c._a. That's every hires. Word notices not required. Not all i._s._p.'s do that well. That's what i wonder case time warner. Also there's that's i mean they operate cable modems but they also produce a lot of content ten. I mean there's a conflict of interest. Well not necessarily a conflict but they're definitely multiple in between them and their customers. I think there's a conflict of interest not between their different services well. Let's clarify something time. Warner doesn't offer internet service provider anymore. They <hes> they they sold that division that exists under spectrum communications now so tyler deal just rename it. No spectrum is a division of charter which is also so a cable system but i don't. I don't know if charter owns any <hes> charters telling charge also a cable company so there are capable right right right right right right right so they provide services traditional television. There's not producing any of the movies that are being downloaded channels the right time. There's i think there's more of an issue in some countries with certain cable interrupters than they are in the u._s. as far as content production and providing internet access yeah i don't know but my point was with this r._c._n. Maybe the recording industry is mad at them because they know i'm just speculating here. You know you haven't read the whole however many page lawsuit suit this is. You're just reading an excerpt straining expert from the way they you know what i got from. What the little bit that you've read so far is they're mad at our c. the n. they're suggesting that our c. n. doesn't help them with enforcement of this. If you read that paragraph again that you started with its sort of suggests that their marketing their high speed services knowing basically they won't do anything about any violations that happened over the high-speed service. I didn't get there. I just saw uh-huh and knowing that it would be used to download things which of course everybody who sells somebody down with download bandwidth. It said that but there was there's also there is some truth to that in regards to what you're saying. You read the whole thing from beginning to operate r._c._n. As a haven for infringement defendants promoted r._c._n.'s high internet speeds again high internet speeds to customers knowing that the ability to download copyrighted the material illegally using high speed internet without repercussions for infringers percussions is is interesting although it certainly the i._s._p. And less they're doing something to shield. These people's identities can't prevent these people both from suffering repercussions. They'll be sued. There's no obligation for the i._s._p. To do anything you can't sue the you can't sue the end user because you can identify them. You kinda you could suit the account holder can get you can get a subpoena to reveal the owner of the internet connection. That's not necessarily the violator right like it's not it's not people didn't know that either. That's true <hes> so there's more on the way we can talk more about this lawsuit and you can share your thoughts with us on free talk live. 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Was given more than five million million notices that its users. Were downloading illegally and did nothing to stop it. That's what the complaints the the basic summary of this has nothing to disconnect users right this argument and and maybe they didn't even threaten them either but we can. We can deepen the story here in just a few moments. I also want to make sure you know about edge wallet wallet. It is my favorite wallet and i think allow the folks here in in the key in areas that are active in the crypto world or using edge. Certainly the one that a business owners are using to receive crypto currencies as well here. It's because edge is a great wallet and they've got support for dozens of various different crypto currencies including in bitcoin b._t._c. <hes> they've got a theory theory of tokens minero ripple dash stellar bitcoin cash raven coin. Now and others go to edge dot what app to learn more. That's their website secure. Your freedom buy sell trade and securely hold your favorite crypto currencies and they've got it for i._o._s. And android phones and dan platform so head over to edge after just download edge wallet in your favorite google or apple play store. It's ian nobody and chris in the studio tonight. We're we're actually going to go to your phone calls and thoughts. You're going to discord where gentleman is on the line. Isaac is calling himself. Ask yourself in our discord this court server isaac. I was actually told you'd be calling in by a longtime listener of ours <hes> west. He says that that you're a vegan and you wanted to talk about. Put that sort of thing so go ahead. Oh yes the kind of funny circumstance. I guess so <hes> west is like a mutual viewer whatever he is a patron of mine and he asked me to <hes> call in and speak to you guys about animal rights so i can't say i'm super familiar with your shoulder your perspectives but yeah i guess i can. I can just go ahead so presumably. None of you are vegan right. I don't think so no. I'm on the atkins diet. I'm pretty much exclusively carnivorous okay all right well. Let me ask you a question then so presumably if we were to fill the slaughterhouses with humans instead of animals you would all say that's morally wrong not do that. Well does does are you. Are you telling which particularly humans because you know. There's some i'm like politicians that i might if i might not be against. I wouldn't have any any pro. I mean i wouldn't eat a politician. That would be discussing of of course. They say you are what you eat part of. It's okay. I mean especially if it's shed a tear certainly certainly it's in self defense here right so so i think it's <hes> if there was a line of politicians that were being forced into a slaughterhouse <hes>. I wouldn't feel bad about new now. I still don't think it's at the goal goal to holocaust politicians but we can disagree on that. Let's say the thing. Is there holocaust thing but yeah. Let's move onto into the animal yeah. Let's let's say that air filled the slaughterhouses are fill with innocent people if you don't think visions are innocent then they're filled with people aren't all titians kids. I don't think anybody would support that. Okay all right great but then on the other hand apparently with animals animals in the slaughterhouse. It is okay to support that yeah. It's okay because animals don't have the same rights as as human beings and i'm. I'm sure you're going to disagree about that. <hes> but one of the reasons why human rights <hes> is a good idea is because it's one that we can communicate about and we can agree on them and we can say yes we agree with whatever rights it is that we're talking about now. Not everybody agrees on what rights are and what things should be considered writes but when you have people people who agree on rights it generally makes life a better and more enjoyable and more productive time whereas with animals they unfortunately at least at this point they don't have away most of them with the exception of maybe dolphins and chimpanzees or whatever they don't in have particularly either of which i would probably be comfortable eating right and they don't have a most animals don't have an effective way of communicating and so therefore there's no way that we can come into an agreement with them about right so generally. The idea that you know i'm behind here is that the animal cannot respect your rights. It doesn't know about them okay. So is it okay to eat like a. I don't know a one year old or six-month-old because they can't <hes> i would say it's not okay because you know no. That's a human being yeah. I mean generally the thing with humans as we have the social agreement that if you don't violate my rights i won't violate yours right. Which is you know how we manage to live together. In in large numbers <hes> i've never successfully negotiated such con contract with say a lion or any animal or or or or anything else and any animals as you might have are probably right well. I mean if they keep violating my rights. I'm gonna either put them out or read them now. If i were to ask the question what exactly is it that's true of animals that if true of humans would justify murdering them presumably the response to that is the ability to participate in social contract. Well specifically the ability ability to convince me that they're not going to violate my rights okay so if we have a human who can't convince you that they're not going to violate your rights. It's fine to murder them well. That's what self defense is in the case of self defense. They've actually they've actually <hes> made it clear that they're not going to violate my right which is exactly what they are. We're gonna violate or i'm sorry when in a in a self defense case somebody's made it clear to me that they that they're not going to respect my rights. It's and it's at that point that i have the right to <hes> to use deadly force against them okay now. I'm not sure this is a diss analogy so so i guess the next question would be. Do you think that a cow is planning to infringe on your rights. <hes> well. A thing is is looking at it from the other side. I had this argument with an ethics professor at the u. of m. one time and denny's and and i was asking him about about the fact that that animals a lot of animals live by eating other animals so what what i was asking him basically as well if i run into a lion that eats meat is it okay for me to to execute that lyon for murder and and the line right and well presumably and he said well lion isn't immoral agent and i said well. Maybe that's a good thing that makes me comfortable eating a lion but not comfortable eating a man is a man is immoral agent. He's got that additional channel <hes> the the ability to abstract to leave reason about morality and to be concerned -cerned about morale isaac standby. If you've got time we can continue the discussion here. He's on our discord server there. You can join us on dischord as well over a discord. Don l. lauren dot f._m. <hes> and you can also join us on the phones as well at eight fifty. Five four fifty free like freedom. 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From seven to ten eastern live on the liberty radio network at l. r. n. dot f._m. To the latest episode soda free talk live presented by cycles c._a. I downloaded for free at freetalklive dot com. This is free. Talk live and you can bring up whatever you want here. Our toll free number's eight fifty. I five four hundred fifty free like freedom. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three with you in the studio. It's ian here nobody chris and of course we'll take your calls calls and thoughts about whatever you want. We've got a gentleman on the line who wants to talk about or is talking about animal rights or the purported concept upped the animal rights. I don't know how many of those of us in the studio actually believe that animals have rights. I'm guessing none of us do but i'm an order. Put words in your mouth. I i don't believe the that they necessarily have riots. It's but i won't say that there's no set of circumstances under which i wouldn't do violence on behalf avenue in the animal giving to protect the animal exactly now of course if it's my animal that can be justified bye bye defensive property but you know if somebody were for example just torturing a dog <hes> randomly for no for no apparent right on their front lawn. Now i want to say this is a place where i might be <hes> uh where i might actually violate my own moral code and say well. I shouldn't punch you in the face but i'm going to do it anyway. Maybe i'll pay you damages some day talking about something that is not you know inappropriate and that is the idea that society has certain expectations and individuals and human beings have certain expectations of behavior and what it is that we're willing to tolerate and what we're not and we're not. I don't think most people would be willing to tolerate somebody you know rubbing <music> beating their animal in their front yard. Even if it's they're supposed animal in the same way that the absence of animal rights that would be completely it would it would be immoral. It would be like you know what would be immoral to refused to tolerate somebody abusing an animal in their front moral to refuse to tolerate that agree well well. The animal had some kind of rights because generally you can use violence and to me if if you're not tolerating somebody then basically you're violently opposed to them being where they are so so. They're they're. They're at risk tolerances. Just leaving people alone. Acceptance is another matter <hes> lee bring isaac back in. Let's get look back on the line and ontario. Go ahead okay well. There's a few things so i leave the no rates position is kind of like particularly crazy position because on that view. There's no problem with doing absolutely anything so there's there's only one thing there's a difference between morals and right's right rights are legally prescribed legally prescribed no rights as being a legal not anything. Let's let's let's start talking about legal rights. I'm talking about you. Respecting some kind of notion of a right for that animal not talking about your rights aren't aren't legal writing immoral moral rights rights are going to be different from one person connects added a few verses just the no reds position is the position where there there's apparently no problem with just stabbing dog in the eyes so what i would assume you state a minimal rights position where they have rights allow that to happen but that yeah well that's not. That's not what i'm saying. You don't need to assume because point. Well hold on you. Don't need to assume because we're right here. Okay we can we can. We've got plenty of time to it so <hes> <hes> yeah well hold on. You don't need to assume anything about what we're believing here because we can actually talk about it right. Yeah we can clarify anything was just if you have an animal animal and you have a human holocaust one is okay. Holocaust together is wrong what i know see that's. They're giving us a false choice okay so i'm just gonna put you on. Hold for just a moment here so we we can talk about this so just because you don't believe that an animal has rights in the same way that humans have rights doesn't mean that you can't can't respect that animal and treat it well and that you can't ostracize people who treat their animals poorly. You're right there. Go ahead well. That's is true but bill clinton you originally point so you guys are just you have a tendency to just go off on crazy candidates well now. We're talking about what you what so you mentioned and get bread. So the first thing i asked was just we have an animal. We have a human. It's wrong hall one. It's okay to holocaust the other. I asked what accounts for that. It's not a holocaust. One you mean by holocaust sounded like you were saying social contract now. I wouldn't say that so again. You're jumping to conclusions. What do you mean when you say holocaust ones et et so <hes> now i asked. Is it social contract now. You said it's not necessarily the social contract. It's something to do with the ability to convince me that they're not going to infringe on my my rights now. There's a problem that could be pointed out without where there's humans who can't convince you. They're not going to infringe on your rights. You're just convinced by other humans or by the general circumstance now now the question i asked as a follow up to that didn't really hear good reply to write is are you for some reason convinced. The cows going to infringe on your rights because i think it's less likely a cowherd infringe infringe on your rights than any other human so it seems like that's that position is just going to grant. Animals reds like repeat it again. So i think one thing to say is that you're you're referring to comments that. Nobody made not any other. One of our hosts ratio right so early two is where you said. It's about their ability to convince you that they're not going to infringe on your rights. I think that's almost for yeah that that was that was and where i was going with that is not so much fear cows therefore i e cows house was a cow is not a moral agent okay but now if you're going to change over something about moral orel agency than can we acknowledged that the first answer to the question you're now backing off of. It's not the case that the answer to the question <hes>. Why is it okay to holocaust one but not the other or is about their ability to convince you. You're not going to infringe on your rights. You're just dropping that answer. That's not your answer anymore. Now you wanna give a new answer about moral agent. <hes> yes that was if that was your your interpretation of what i said the the tour intrinsically connected in in my mind but but yeah go ahead and go ahead and and i will i will not i will not die on that hill. Okay that's fine. Well look i mean. I don't think it's a straw man of your position like the other thing told i've been told once or twice that i'm jumping to conclusions when i'm just recapping the history of the conversation conversation recapping your recapping it from your understanding and maybe we've not done a good job of explaining our side of things. We're having. I'm i'm saying yeah yeah certainly right and so we're trying to correct when you bring up your you know your misunderstanding of what we've been saying. We're trying to correct that. You just want to keep going back to your misunderstanding understanding of it. It was just one point the idea that whole hold that thought there is we can. We can come back to you here but it was. It was just one point that animals don't have rights because they can't respect your rights just a general statement that doesn't mean that cows are a threat at all why to me. That's the same as saying lagman and then i heard her hold on just asked a question and then you don't give us time to answer. That's right you said why holocaust one and not the other. Can you describe what you mean by holocaust point-by-point so first of all. I've asked you a question. You've asked us a bunch of questions questions. I'm asking you a question back on the answer to my question and i'm trying to get. I won't stop talking in order for us to ask you a question. Actually listen properly okay so just there's. Let's be systematic well in order to listen properly. I know thing or two about listening. You have to be able to restate back what the person said accurately. I've been trying to tell you every returned back up. He's still talking. I've been trying to tell you that you have not understood what it is that we've been seeing. What is it about the animals right. We have animals. We have humans. It's okay to holocaust one. You keep saying that and i've asked you now two or three times when you say holocaust. What do you mean something along blinds the social contract you keep talking. I can't even get how many times have i asked him if he's even aware that we've been talk or that he's been turned all down. Yeah i just keep turning him down because it would just be constant. Cross talk you. Thanks for the call tonight. Toll free number here is eight fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five. I four five zero three seven three three. If you can't stop for just a moment and listen you know yeah. It's great for you to ask us questions but we get to ask you questions back. 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That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three we we have the discord call in line rooms over at discord dot l. r. n. dot f._m. And the gentleman who was on the line is still in our discord chat room claiming that if we only would've let him communicate <hes> well look we had john for two segments of the show dude the typical. Will you know guests on the show. Typical caller doesn't get two segments to the program. Obviously we wanted to have the conversation about animal writes. That's why we held onto you but a conversation requires two sides listening or at least attempting to listen to one another another and you know you've got to ask some questions initially and then we wanted to ask questions to clarify like one of the questions you didn't even get to nobody he was to ask our caller what he thought rights where i would have been interesting yeah because until you have a definition <hes> of rights it's and you know an idea of what their sources has then. It's kind of difficult to to have conversation on on on the topic and you know there's there's at least two to ideas of the of the sources first of human rights one one school of thought would say that our rights are derived from god where all created with gun. He endows us with rights. Other people would say that that there are natural rights that these things exist in the rates exist in in nature. I think <hes> melanie would be <hes> of that school. <hes> and are almost axiomatic <hes> and i on the other hand would say that that rights are more a social convention <hes> i would then then anything else because the thing is the now is the nonaggression princeton yeah the non aggression principle. I think it's a great principle sensible to live by <hes> but it's not inscribed on a mountain anywhere which means that for one thing we can't look backup in the at the mountain and look carefully at the wording of it. We're unsure about what it does that have to do in order to get people. <hes> you know the seventy five percent of the population to agree with us. We have to radio outside of the thing is in writing on the side of the mountain. It becomes legislation relations so it's almost self self fitting. If you wanna be a purist but only legislation to the extent that people actually buy i mean from from a principled libertarian perspective well well. The drug were certainly <hes> certainly legislation and people don't abide by that they break those laws other time that's true but there's also violence than results. I don't necessarily the writing it on. The side of a mountain would result in violence <hes> well. I mean somebody might get mad about the mountain. I wouldn't be surprised if he had yeah yeah maybe but but the point is that <hes> you know to me the nap is is a social convention invention and so and so and i think it's a good one. It's one that i strive to spread acceptance. It's for it's the only acceptable <hes> one to me that i that i've found but then the question becomes less this what does it say then. How should this thing be defined. Okay so it becomes not aww factual question but a normative question you know one of the problems i have with you know everybody like adding essentially to rights more what rights either animals have or creating special groups of people that to protect is that ultimately doesn't today it justifies violence. I know it sounds absolutely insane but really what what's going to happen happen. If you've animals rights is that you're going to then start using violence against people who don't agree with you so the question is at what level i might not agree that eating or you're willing into her. I might not agree that. Eating animals is a good thing. I think that's you know that's a bad thing but that doesn't necessarily mean that i would support you know eight right or animal rights in the sense that you know we should outlaw eating animals a because it's worse to kill it. I still feel like it's worse to kill a human than it is to kill hill an animal right so i agree with you on you know what what the depends on which human like the politicians no big deal. We'll out a little exception for them so the toll free number here eight thirty five four fifty three. Let's bring burn on the line. Of course you can bring up whatever you want vernon. You're on free talk. Live go ahead talk about nine. Eleven just kidding all right so i heard a story i actually on the radio station the day <hes> <hes> this lady had had this license plate it says p before we go and if in their hamster license plate yeah for fifteen years and in the state of new hampshire senator a letter saying this is not a bit it includes sexual ethics the tory actor for function and so she had to either surrender the play or or choose a new one but i believe what happened is that the governor actually intervened and and that she didn't have to do that so i just thought that was very interesting i they made national news it did it was it was all over the news this week. What was the play recall what it was something like before you go yeah yeah. You'd say to your kids before you go on interest silently. It certainly involving bodily fluids but i'm not quite sure that that's generally considered a sexual reference. Law is is is. Why can't we talk about that. It's something all humans do that's. Why are we ashamed of. Why are we afraid about it. Is it a sign that we've kind of failed to come to grips with the fact that we are animals but one of the one of the takeaways i had from this story was the interventionist way of the government of the state of new hampshire that is touted. It's so greatly on this radio show and i wo- what what would you say. I leon show government the right well the state of new hampshire supposedly one of the nation right. You're talking about the government saying that the government's sounds good with that that that we're fighting ineffectively hearing when you say the state of new hampshire is the free free est of all the fifty states. You're just comparing cancers and you're saying the government of the state of new hampshire is less cancerous than the government of of <hes> all the other states so yeah they're still they're still violating people's rights here. They're still putting innocent peaceful people behind bars. There's still a state right but i guess i'm not. I don't know it just it was a little bit of extreme story but anyways. I thought it was the money store and i thought i'd share that with you all thank you. It was a funny story. One of the funniest parts was i read a i don't have it pulled up in front of me but i read a quote from the woman who was obviously grateful that she's going. It'd be allowed to keep the license plate that apparently she's had for some amount of time like it was about fifteen years years so that now she gets you know she's just to keep it and she'd made some statement about how if the license plate were were pulled she would not be living free because again new hampshire is for your die but having played period is also that was not writing for that was my point like you're you're arguing over your state required mandated plate that if you don't have on your car a man with a gun is going to likely threatened with violence if you don't pull over to the side of the road and do what he says so the fact that you've got that plate to say what what you wanted it to say okay well. That's good but you're not free right is not the indicator but for her it was for her. That was her mark of one understood. The state crosses that line then she's not free but all taxes and regulations. That's totally fine. I would love to see somebody propose. A mandatory named name gene tag ally at the state level just for the human body and the to make a point of the license plates are ridiculous. We should get rid of all the license plates are all about control right but the argument's license plates are ridiculous but if you compare it to a law for an anti gua- you would see how ridiculous it really is right because it arguments might pass it. I'd probably right. I mean there's probably going to be people who take you seriously but i mean seriously like if if you look at it a name tag effectively would allow cops to know who who they're dealing with a theoretically at least to the extent that they know who they're dealing with when it comes to driving a car and license plate so oh same argument and he just sounds ridiculous. When you talk about name tags toll free number eight fifty five four hundred fifty free you can join us here. Our number three is on the way got a bunch of people jump into the <hes> the discord chat room. 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Those ideas adapted for radio from n._p._r. Guy roz so a lot of us have some sort of plan ric following a vision path. We set out for our lives but for some people it's more than that. It's the path that god has laid out. Exactly faith is trust trust. I just assumed that this was god's path for me. This is greg thompkins in his path became clear to him in one thousand nine hundred six six when he was a student at arizona state university and he decided to dedicate his life to his faith when i did that i just know angels angels no trumpets but i knew that got gotten a hold of my life so i went to phoenix seminary and began taking classes and i guess really fell in love with the academic side the thinking side of the christian faith a few years later on craig made his wife lianne. He thought that was part of the plan to yeah we met at church i was teaching our college ministry and then walk this this beautiful woman and i just thought i'd love to get to know her and so we decided to go out on a date dated for two years and we got married in nineteen ninety-six an craig and lee and built a life for themselves based on this plan. She started working at phoenix children's hospital in ninety seven and then i planted a church in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight and so so our journey was definitely embedded embedded in again a solid faith. We both knew we wanted to pursue a christian marriage raise kids in the christian faith and for the next decade. That's exactly what they did. We had three kids have done a cold a sack two dogs a mini van. I i felt like we were living the christian life and so not to paint the suburban typical picture but that's honestly where we were at. We were comfortably enjoying waiting life up until two thousand ten up until march sixth two thousand ten i received that knock on on the door and the only thing i remember is looking back into our living room seeing my three children and opening the door seeing a police officer and then two people flanking him in black windbreakers that was a police chaplain in a childcare care worker and the rested play out like a movie and words have never had worked up until that moment when he said at about seven thirty your wife was killed in a car accident those those words brought me to my knees and and i remember my kids rushing toward me and i i could only muster the the words amami had an accident tonight and she's in heaven and we're not going to see her again this side of heaven but she's okay and we have a lot to live for but we need to do that as best we can together and then one day we'll see mommy again and that was all about all i could get out and and within twenty or thirty minutes my house was filled with relatives people who loved me and lovely and bannon loved our kids and we were all weeping and grieving together greg johnson continues his story from the ted stage so on march six two thousand and ten myself along with ten year old six year old bailey and four year old malir began our journey of life without our wife and mother but what has made this trek so especially demanding for me is that i'm a man of faith not casual casual faith but a faith that is defined me for over thirty years. So what do you do when your faith has been traumatized by such such a traumatic event. What do you do when you've told people time and time again to trust and follow and obey what do you do when you earnestly begin doubting the very subject that you've been promoting your entire adult life so the why questions just you know flooded my inbox if you will. Why did this happen. Why did you take her from me. Why can't i just go on living the life if i was. I thought everything was good between god and i thought that that i just assumed that this was god's path for me. Len's death shook greg's faith it through what he thought was his path his ability to trust and the question things things like this happen to people every day around the world and many of them still choose to believe but how can billions of us believe in something we don't physically see where does doubt fit into this belief well today on the show. We're gonna explore stories of people grappling with faith and belief relief for greg in the face of doubt in the darkest moment of his life. He had to rethink his faith. He had to rethink how he i saw. God's plan for him craig did you. I mean you knew or you believe that. God had a plan for you us and then the plan that you thought we had for you is upended. Did you begin to doubt the wisdom of that plan or even the plant itself not only did. I doubt it. I wanted to and the plan <hes> if i if i could be honest <hes> i beg god to take me home. I was not suicidal but there were very vivid moments being overwhelmed with the tragedy and then the responsibility of of raising three children and so yes i i i began and it never happened before march. Sixth i began began to talk with god about my plan because my plan had been so radically altered. I really did believe that. I could go to him now and start negotiating <hes> what the rest of the plan was going to look like so my my my journal is full of entries that have me lashing out at god have me being angry with him with the situation -tuation with the young man that killed my wife. Okay god this happened. I can't reverse history so you need to now make sense of this mhm unilateral prayer. I had with god five days after the accident was recorded in my journal. Dear god the pain that's beginning. The set in right now is so intense. I can't see your goodness. I know you're near but i don't want that. I want my wife back. I wanted us to grow old in to die into experience heaven together. So what happened to that plan. Why was that plan and so wrong. And why do you find it so appalling for me to want to watch my wife love on our kids for a few more years now that you've taken her god when's it my turn and how awful would it be if you decided to take me home and leave our kids without a mother or father you couldn't have changed your plan plan by one minute one minute and that stop light wouldn't have been read one minute so i can't see your goodness. All i can z. As you allowing my wife to be killed all i can see as you along my kids to live without a mother. So how wrong is that god somewhere along the journey. I arrived at a question that i needed an answer to. Is this going to be a long term. Experience experience for me will my journey of faith. Now forever be embedded with this overtone of doubt our faith in doubt inextricably probably linked some would say yes. Faith has no easy answers that it's difficult and stubborn netted involves. This ongoing going struggled their faith in doubt will forever be joined in that those who don't doubt really aren't experiencing faith. You know i've i'm sure you've experiences. You talked to some people about faith and the way they talk about faith. I'm almost sort of jealous of it because it seems easy that it's it's just a faith.'. Simple it sounds like when you talk about faith now that its heart. It's not actually easy. There is struggle in finding faith. I've never found faith to be easy and so this accident accentuated that it didn't draw me away from god it drew me into god but i've never understood when people have claimed that faith is easy. See faith is difficult. It's it's hard to define and it's even harder to live and so my understanding my belief my trust based in god relies heavily on the intellectual side of trying to understand who god is with that said god faith includes trust and its trust in an object that i can't see i can give evidence by way of god's creation creation but i've never been able to prove god empirically and i think that causes me to continue to get up every day deciding to trust in him. Could i wake up one day and decide that all of what i've been doing for the past forty years has been a farce i i don't want to discount that that could ever happen but if i can get on the other end of a tragedy as big as losing my wife and still believe that i'm quite confident that that isn't going to be the case that said i don't know if i would have the kind of faith i have have if it was easy yeah i always want to be asking good questions that allow myself and those around me to to to talk to god in a way that i don't believe he's threatened by god make sense of this. I don't understand this. I need this a bit more clear and for me. God has time and time again answered those prayers. That's greg tonkin on kinton. He's an educator valley. Christian high school and grand canyon university in two thousand thirteen greg was remarried. He and his wife jennifer are now raising using a blended family complete with five children. You can see greg's full talk at ted dot n._p._r. Dot org on the show today ray ideas about belief and doubt i'm gyros and you're listening to the ted radio hour from n._p._r. <music> hey everyone just a quick. Thanks to two of our sponsors. You help make this podcast possible i to capital one with with the capital one saver card you can earn four percent cashback on dining entertainment that means four percent unshaking that new french restaurant and four percent in bowling with your friends. You'll also two percent cashback at grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases now when you go out cash in capital one. What's in your wallet terms. Apply support also comes from berkshire hathaway home services with a franchise network of highly trained agents and advanced marketing tools berkshire hathaway home services network members aim to provide something more than just real estate they think beyond the next transaction shen and build relationships based on your long term goals to ensure. You'll get all the value. That home brings year after year home after home all that more they do do that's home. Services star your home search at berkshire hathaway h._s._s. dot com. Hey <hes> what next year is right twenty twenty election year the news is helmet gonna crazier sa- join me sam sanders for wrap wrap up of the week's news and culture that will not make you pull your hair out download and listen every weekend to it's been a minute from n._p._r. It's the ted radio hour from n._p._r. I'm guy roz and our show today believers and doubters why some people believe by some don't and and then there are those who are somewhere in between like lesley hazleton what are you. What do you believe what you believe in. I don't i don't believe in to believe in doesn't really make too much sense to me. Lesley hazleton writes about the people in the prophets who who shape the things many people believe. I am a very very firm agnostic by which i mean i'm not faithless but i put my faith in inquiry and i know this sounds strange but i have very deep sense of mystery dream for might be called religious mystery and it was that sense of mystery of religious mystery that prompted leslie who by the way is an agnostic jew that prompted her to spend five years of her life researching and writing a biography about the prophet muhammad and it all started with one question one question that kept nagging her here. She is on the ted stage. I found myself waking each morning and misty seattle what i knew. It was an impossible question what actually happened one desert night half the world and almost half of history story away what happened that is on the night in the year six hundred ten when muhammad received the first revelation of the koran on a mountain just just outside mecca. This is the core mystical moment of islam and as such of course it defies empirical analysis which might be why when i looked at the earliest accounts we have of that night what struck me even more than what happened was what did not what happened did not come floating off the mountain as they're walking on air. He did not run down shouting hallelujah bless the lord god. There were no choirs of angels. No music of the spheres no relation no ecstasy no golden aura surrounding him aw no sense of an absolute for danger role as the messenger of kahad quite the contrary in his own reported voted words. He was convinced that i that what had happened couldn't have been real good <music> what did happen. He was terrified. He was in fear for for his life. He thought this angelic apparition. This voice was going to smother him was going to just just literally squeeze the life out of his chest <music>. He thought he was going to die when he didn't. His first reaction was that he had to be mad. He had been in saying this had to be a delusion and he was terrified. Let other people say this him. In fact he was so sure that he could only be mush known possessed by a jinn when he found himself still alive his first impulse was to finish the job himself to leap off the highest cliff and escape the terror of what he'd experienced by putting an end to all experience so the man who fled down the mountain that night jumbled not this joy but with the stock primordial fear it was overwhelmed not with conviction but by dr he he was a he was a doubter. I think the best of us are the worst of us. Are those who never doubt who is so sure that we possess the absolute truth that we become less human what struck me about muhammad. Hamad depressed went into his life. What how extraordinarily human he was and his ability to acknowledge his own fallibility. We see it there by the way at the very last words of jesus father. Why have you forsaken me wonderful. <hes> exquisite agonizing moment of doubt mohamed is not the pope of islam. He's the prophet and end prophets to can doubt this is what makes him human to human for some like conservative muslim theologians agents who maintain that the account of his wanting to kill himself shouldn't even be mentioned despite the fact that it's in the earliest islamic biographies they insist assist that he never doubted for even a single moment. Let alone despair demanding perfection. They refuse to tolerate human imperfection yet. What exactly is imperfect about dumb abolish. All doubt out of what's left is not faith but absolute heartless conviction so doubt is essential. I think it's part of us that we need to cherish we have this idea that doubt is somehow imperfect at the something wrong with doubt is this desire for certainty that i see is so dangerous and the desire for perfectibility effective -bility. Just let go of perfectionist just accepted. Were cuban. Were imperfect. That's what makes us interesting. That's what makes the world interesting. If we will all perfect we were all alike we would die of boredom where does like faith end in conviction began. I think they're in two separate spills. The people i know of deepest faith i'm not convinced they have faith despite the doubts in fact because of their doubts it's a dance and they're very very aware of this and it goes beyond belief in they know that this is not rational and yet they commit themselves and that active commitment that existential active commitment that i saw admire and that very very deep sense that religion is in a sense not even about god <hes> it's about humans. It's about making ourselves. Better people lesley azazel tin. She's the author of the first muslim the story of muhammad. You can see her entire talk at ted dot n._p._r. Org hello hello hello. Hello oh you see. This is the comedian julia sweeney. What is it that you believe in well. I think first of all the weird believe it has a lot of different connotations. I think when people talk about religion they take believed to be the same as faith so i would like to define the word believe in the way you're asking me the question as in. What do i have confidence in okay fine. Okay i have confidence in the scientific method. I have confidence in the biological history of our species being interconnected live in tribal and helping each other and connected through love and family and relations. Is this answering your question. This is a complicated idea for julia sweeney. She's been wrestling with what it means to believe for most of her life and it's a story that she told on the ted ed stage on september tenth the morning of my seventh birthday. I came downstairs to the kitchen where my mother was washing the dishes and my father was reading the paper for something and i sort of presented myself to them in the doorway and they said hey happy birthday and said i'm seven and my father smiled al-din said well. You know what that means. Don't you and i said yeah. I'm gonna have a party and a cake and get a lot of presence and my dad said well yes but but more importantly being seven means that you've reached the age of reason and you're now capable of committing any and all sins against god and man so i said yeah yeah age of reason what does that mean and my dad said well. We believe in the catholic church. God knows that little kids don't i don't know the difference between right and wrong but when you're seven year old enough to know better so you've grown up and reached the age of reason and now god will start keeping notes on you you and begin your permanent record and i said oh wait a minute. You mean all that time <music>. I'm up till today all the time. I was so good. God didn't notice and my mom said we'll. I noticed i thought how can i not have known this before. How could it not have sunk in when they've been telling me all about being good and no real credit for it first of all. How could i not have realized this very very important information till the very day that it was basically useless to me so i said well mom and dad about santa claus. I mean santa claus knows if you're not auty or nice right and my dad said honey. I think that's technically just between thanksgiving and christmas and my mother said oh bob stop it. Let's just tell all. Are i mean she's seven julie. There is no santa claus who now i didn't know it at the time but i really wasn't turning seven on september tenth so my thirteenth birthday. I plan to slumber party with all of my girlfriends but a couple of weeks beforehand forehand. My mother took me aside and said i need to speak to you. Privately september tenth is not your birthday. It's october tenth and i said what and she said listen. The cutoff date to start kindergarten was september fifteen. I told him that your birthday was september tenth and then i wasn't sure you weren't just going to go all over the place so i started to tell you your birthday. It was september tenth. Julia was so ready to start school honey. You're so ready. I thought about it. When i was four. I was already the oldest of four children and my mother even had another child to come so what i think she understandably really meant was that she was already. She was ready then. She said. Don't worry julie every year on october town when it was your birthday but you didn't realize it. I made sure that you ate a piece of cake that day. It wasn't until years later looking back on this whole age of reason change of birthday thing that it dawned on me. I wasn't turning seven when i thought i'd turned seven. I had other months anything i want to do before god. I started keeping tabs on me. Oh life can be so cruel such a crazy story. Did any of this like shape the way you thought about any of your beliefs well. I had always had a sort of affectionate relationship with the catholic church which raised in a catholic culture and i liked it. I loved the catholic school and i loved the nuns and <hes> and then when it came to the belief part of it. I uh i always was a little bit skeptical but i didn't look into it very deeply until she did one afternoon. When julia heard a knock at the door and there were two mormon missionaries who were standing there and they said they had a message for me from god. I said a message for me from god and they said yes now. I was raised in the pacific northwest around a lot of church of latter day saints people and you know i've worked with them and even dated them but i never really knew through the doctrine or what they said to people when they're out on a mission and i guess it was sort of curious so i said please come in and they looked really happy because i don't think this happens to them. All all that often so i sat down and i got them glasses of water and after niceties they said. Do you believe that god loves you with all his heart and i thought well of course i believe in god but i don't like that word heart because it anthropomorphized god and i don't like the word his either because that sexualize is god but i didn't want to argue semantics with these boys so after very long uncomfortable pause i said yes yes i do i feel very loved and they looked at each other and smiled like that was the right answer and then they said. Do you believe we're all brothers and sisters on this planet and i said yes i do. Yes i do and i was so relieved. That was a question. I can answer so quickly but the question they asked me when i first arrived really stuck stuck in my head. Did i believe god love me with all his heart because i wasn't exactly sure how. I felt about that question now if they'd asked me do you do you feel that god loves with all his heart. Will that would have been much different. I think i would have instantly answered yes. Yes i feel all the time i feel god's love when i'm hurt hurt and confused and i feel consoled and cared for i take shelter in god's love when i don't understand why tragedy hits and and i feel god's love when i look with gratitude due to all the beauty i see but since they asked me that question with the word believing somehow it was all different because i wasn't exactly sure if i believed what i so clearly felt a julia. This is how you're talking and i have so many more questions for you so at this point. I guess i should reveal that not long. After the mormon missionaries came to visit you actually became an atheist had that happened. You do remember well. It was over a two year period but there was a moment. It was <hes> any of sorts. There's a religious word for you. I had been doing a lot of reading and research about religion and i was walking through the backyard and it suddenly hit me that i didn't believe anymore. I really didn't believe in god. There was a sign. You got a sign that that there was no god no was not a cy wasn't decided it was a developing understanding a weirdo like we're kind of socialized to talk about these things in religious terms because i mean this is your moment of atheism and it was like an epiphany yeah. I mean it is true. I don't want to overplay it. I didn't like fall down to the ground or anything anything or change my name from salt paul or anything like that is really a party like and very small part of you know the kind of like holds out hope that almost like doubts your doubt now. I don't even think about it really frankly anymore. I'm i'm just i'm living my life. As a person who accepts the natural world you know and this whole idea that there's a god who cares whether people believe in him or not like why would god care of people believed in him or not like that was one of the many things that i found so shocking reading the bible is first of all how insecure god is. I mean god is so insecure. He needs everyone to say you're the number one the number one overall the other gods and and you're the top god and like it's the most host insecure character so you talk you mention this idea the of like feeling god's love me. Is that something that you you ever still feel. Actually i feel all those things even more deeply but i i just don't think a deity in the sky who i think has provided all those things. Do you see what i mean so like i don't say thank thank you god for providing this lovely day. I just think wow this is a really beautiful day. It's not thinking an idea yeah of god for providing it. It's feeling lucky that i get to experience it because of just the serendipitous nature of nature itself and that i'm happened to we standing here and i happen to be looking at it. Why is the word belief so hard for you well. I don't think it's just me. I think that word word is conflated with a bunch of things and so then when you say you don't believe in god anymore. Sometimes people say oh. You're not a believer in anything mike saying you. You're denying those reality and that isn't what i feel. I have confidence in a lot of things and a lot of different sources sources of knowledge that we've accumulated and personal experience and all kinds of stuff like that so i've tried to be careful using the word believe i actually try to avoid using the word julius we need tedtalk is based on her stage. Monologue called letting go of god and you can see her talk at ted dot n._p._r. Dot org stay with us more believers doubters in a moment gyros and you're listening to the ted radio hour from from n._p._r. Own support for this podcast and the following following message come from the walton family foundation where opportunity takes root more information is available at walton family foundation dot org. Hey hey thanks so much to our sponsor. 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News podcast that gets you caught up on the big news in a small amount of time spent about ten minutes with up first weekday mornings from n._p._r. News it's the ted radio hour from n._p._r. And garros today show believers in doubters who believes who doesn't and why what do you believe in. I believe that life is very short. Our responsibility is to be good to ourselves and those around us. I believe in civilization wisdom. I'm i'm very susceptible to beauty. This is the writer landed baton and if you noticed he did not mention anything about god because it doesn't believe in god but once just a little bit more out of atheism. Here's how we start ted talk. One of the most common ways days of dividing the world is into those who believe and those who don't into the religious and the atheists and for the last decade eight or so. It's been quite clear what being an atheist means. There have been some very vocal atheists pointed out not just that religion is wrong but that it's ridiculous they've argued that believing in god is akin to believing in fairies now. I think it's too easy to dismiss the whole of religion that way what i'd like to inaugurate today is a new way of being an atheist. If you like a new version of atheism we could call atheism atheism two point zero now. What is atheism two point. Oh well it starts from a very basic premise. Of course there's no god of course there. There are no deities or supernatural spirits or angels etc now. Let's move on. I'm interested in kind of constituency. That thinks something along on these lines. I can't believe in doctrines. I don't think these doctrines are right but very important but i love christmas carols. I really you like the art of antenna. I really like looking at old churches. I really like turning the pages of the old testament whatever it may be you know the kind of thing i'm talking about people who are attracted to the ritualistic side the moralistic communal side of religion but can't bear the doctrine now. I think there is an alternative tentative. I think there are ways and being both very respectful and completely impious of stealing from religions. If you don't believe in a religion there's nothing in wrong with picking and mixing with taking out the best sides of religion take a cathedral. Why cathedrals impressive okay is it god no. It's architecture okay. Yes it was inspired by god but ultimately it's an architectural phenomenon where if you are very small in a vast ost space that is both psyche frightening and also very uplifting we will get this beneath the evening sky you go about on clear summer's night under the evening sky and suddenly you are paralleled with something so vast that your own smallness is seen not as a crushing and humiliating thing but as redemptive thing that is i think the core of the religious sense the core of the religious sense is feeling feeling small within the vastness. It is something that predates belief goes beyond belief you can have it as a non believer and i have it all the time and it's just religions of being onto this feeling and they've made the most of it and that is what alan wants atheists to to do to figure out how to address some of our deepest and most basic needs the way religion has done it for centuries in the early nineteenth century recharge attendance in western europe started sliding down very sharply and people panicked. They ask themselves the following question. They said where are people going to find morality letty. Where are they going to find guidance. And where are they going to find sources of consolation and influential voices came up with one answer. It's to culture that we should look for guidance for consolation for morality. Let's look to the plays of shakespeare the dialogues of plato the novels of jane austen in there. We'll find a lot of the truths that we might previously have found in the gospel of saint john. I think that's a very beautiful idea in a very true idea. It's also an idea that we have forgotten. Let's say you went to harvard or oxford cambridge and and you said you know i've come here because i'm in search of morality guidance and consolation. I want to know how to live. They would show you the way to the insane asylum. This is simply not what our grandest and best institutes of higher learning are in the business of why. They don't think we need it. They don't think we are in urgent need of assistance. They see us as adults else rational adults. We don't need help now. Religion start from a very different place indeed all major religions at various points corless children. They believe leave that we are in severe need of assist only just holding it together. Perhaps is it just me maybe but anyway we're only just holding it together and we need help. Of course we need help and so we need guidance and didactic learning. We tend to believe the modern secular world but if you tell someone something once they'll remember it. Sit them in a classroom. Tell them about later later at the age of twenty. Send them out at career in management consultancy for forty years and that lesson will stick with them. Religions go nonsense. You need to keep repeating the lesson ten times today to get on your knees and repeat at ten twenty or fifteen times a day otherwise our minds like sieves. Did you ever find yourself feeling like like you're missing out like like. Do you ever just want to go to a church or synagogue and just like feel it <hes> look i think like many secular people i'm i i look on with a certain kind of mixture of envy and dissatisfaction interest at the religious festivals of my i believe in friends and i tell myself <hes> yom kippur. You know that's very interesting. You look back of sins. You might have committed also forgiveness you renew new social ties and i find myself in a yom kippur service and i think <hes> something i like him but i'm not sure look. I think that the modern secular world is he's very new. It's only really been in the last hundred years. The blink of an eyelid that a substantial number of people in the developed world have been nonbelievers and i think we are still trying to work out what a good non-believing life might look like. We've got a lot to invent still can't help us think that it's almost like you're calling for like a new kind of religion i am i am calling for new religion. But what does that mean okay so if you do away with religion. That's not the the end of the story. If you simply announce okay i don't believe in god the creation stories myth etc fine good for you fine what happens now. Where are you going to go with all all those needs which religion formerly attended to now some people take a very bluff approach at that point and they go look. I don't mind. I've got some poetry to read in the evening. I go to the local library. If i want to meet anyone and <hes> if i need some transcendental feelings well you know look myself on a trip to the grand canyon. Thanks very much end of story. I think that is the end of the story. I think there's an enormous amount don't that needs to be invented and there's opportunity for all of us thinking secular people to respect religions for what they achieved and look look forward to a future where we can get creative. Is there any part of like ebay teeny tiny part of you that sometimes doubts <music> your doubts genuinely no but there is quite a big part of me that will love religion to be true and it particularly at moments of crisis. That's where i think my goodness. I would love to believe that this could be made better or that. There was something beyond or that. I could control the fate of a loved. One life is going to pit all of us in extremely dramatic situations that certainly explain to me psychologically why god was not some luxury or piece of myth. I the experience god as a psychological necessity for the intolerable anxiety and fear of being human. I can't believe in god but boy. Oh boy do y. No why people do believe baton. He's the author of religion for atheists and his latest book is called art as therapy check out. Both of his talks at ted dot com so what if everyone we've heard from on the show today is right like what if there is only your truth which is what definite botanic beliefs. My truth is my truth. Your autres your truth and six billion people on the planet of six billion truths and you believe your dessert. Would i believe my truth is the truth and that's why we argue de right about hinduism particularly about hindu mythology but he's also really interested in universal myths and truths and why people argue about them <music>. Here's how he starts ted talk. The world is objective logical universal scientific. My world is subjective. It's personal. It's perceptions thoughts feelings dreams it is the belief system that we carry and it's the myth that we live in the world tells us how the sun rises how we are born my worry take us why the sun rises why so when i ask q about belief i mean what do you think it is about belief or faith that the people seem to need you see if you look at nature there is the animal which the predator editor which is constantly looking for food and restless and frightened that's hunger and then there are animals which i pray which constantly seeking protection and security not because otherwise the predator will eat them so that's fear and the human beings come along and we imagine a world without hunger and we imagine a world without fear and we also imagine the opposite of world with absolute federal hunger and absolute terrible fear the former the world without hunger and fear because heaven and the world full of in finite hunger and fear we call hell and we are wondering how to be a wide hale and go towards what does happen and we're looking for answers everywhere and someone comes along the delta something it'd be say hey that'll take me to have that's faith in this understanding of our ancestors is transmitted generation from generation in the a form of stories symbols and rituals which are always indifferent to rationality and so when you study it to realize is that different people of the world have a different understanding of the world there is my world and that is your world and my world is always better than your would because my rational and yours is superstition. Yours is faith. Yours is illogical. This is the root the clash of civilizations. I was really interested in the story told in your talk about alexander the great and completely different perspectives perspective on it like from the hindu perspective and from the greek perspective yes. The story goes that alexander met <hes> person in india call the gymnast surfaced which is basically means naked wise man and he asked the gym lucifer's twas doing sitting on a rock doing nothing staring at the sky and alexander asked him so what are you doing. Are you doing and the gymnasts office. John said i'm experiencing nothingness then the gymnast office task. What are you doing and alexander said i am conquering the world and they both laughed each one part. That was the fooling gymnasts office said. Why is he conquering the world. It's pointless and alexander thought. Why is he sitting around doing nothing. What a waste of a life. The two people looked at the same situation very differently because each of them believed different. Things alexander believed you live only once all his life as a child he read stories of heroes who do something spectacular takkula and because they do something spectacular the land up in a place called elysium heaven of heroes and he wanted to be one of them so he worked all his life trying to be a great eight man but that's not the story. The sophist heard he heard of very different story you see the indians also had a river it separates the land of the living from the land of the dead but you don't cross it once you go to and fro endlessly because you see nothing last forever in india not even death the same life is lived infinite times. Do get the point of it all. You're groundhog's day two different mythologies different ways of looking at the world one believes this the one and only life the other believes. This is one of many lives. People must ask you all the time who's right. Yes they do at s._a. You decide it's your decision. You are the judge. I guess i'd rather live you know. Multiple lives lives and just one right less pressure in some ways. There is less pressure but you see it also makes you inefficient big. You lack dies ical lazy see if you wanna save the world. You need one life. Do you think more people would identify with the the gym sophist or with alexander. The simple answer answer is when things are going right for you think of yourself as alexander. You've achieved success. If things are going so well you relationships break down and you know lives sucks. Is this not last forever. New life will come along and everything grew change happy and if you look at cultures around the world to do is understand the mythology and you will see how to behave and how they do business live only once in one life cultures around the world you will see an obsession with binary logic absolute truth standardization absoluteness zenia patterns and design but if you look at cultures which have psychological and based on infinite lives he will comfort with fuzzy logic context jewel thinking with everything is relative relatives sort off mostly this look at your indian people around here. You'll see them smile. They know what it is and then l. Look at people have done business in india u._c._l._a. Exasperation on their faces so they'll always be people who believe in one life will always be people believe in many lives. What's your truth that everybody has a right to the truth. What about yours eight is that there's nothing in this world is permanent. Nothing is perfect. Everything's transforming all the time. Do you believe this with. I do with all of your heart and soul well. Every time i look into the mirror is growing old. Uh so then it is my hairs grey. My skin wrinkling the trees are falling. People are changing all the time that never changes and so the next time you meet someone a stranger one request understand that you live in the subjective truth and so does he undestand it then you understand it. You will discover something spectacular. You discover that with an infinite myths lies the eternal trute drut who sees it all veterans has but a thousand is in the hundred you and i only two tonigh- is written more than a dozen has in books on hindu mythology. You can see his entire ted. Talk at ted dot com coming through <hes> they have to <hes> josh thinks for listening to our show unbelievers in doubters this week our production staff at n._p._r. 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Illinois on a saturday mckay mckay washington correspondent key issues as you mentioned that you're covering trade in ethanol. It's weird that we can't pick one over the other because they kind of mesh s. together. In a meeting at the white house earlier in the week y'all reportedly rita that was controversial meeting at the white house involving the president and midwest lawmakers and officials and <hes> the discussion according to bloomberg news turn from the issue of china and the trade war to the ethanol waivers for small oil refiners reportedly began dan the president said he felt misled about e._p._a.'s most recent batch thirty one a small refinery exemptions at the same time of the e._p._a. Was issuing a statement that the extensions had no impact on ethanol producers well neither of those comments fat <hes> well well with the ethanol groups energy c._e._o. Emily scores shot back an a statement that the president's feeling misled came as it's no surprise because the spend months to paper over the impact of its refinery handouts and <hes> the devastating the impact that this is hard on both the biofuel sector and farmers cutting numerous <hes> biofuel plants out of production action <hes> slowing some and also <hes> destroying a significant to ban foreign corn in fact <hes> so much settled in the renewable skills association president jeff cooper said when you look at the laws demand we're talking about the some two hundred twenty five five million bushels adding that as equivalent to a racing demand for the entire mission corn crops so this is huge and it comes. I'm big time when farmers k. constituency the president a lot of seeing increases bankruptcies and plunging farm income as a jeff cooper puts it to e._p._a. Pretend nothing is wrong. Rome is burning while g._p._a. Plays niro's fiddles though you can see based on those comments and some of the emotional responses that <hes> the ethanol industry and agriculture pretty upset on on with the way things are going on the front. How trade are we any closer to deal well. <hes> you know that again again. <hes> is <hes> something that <hes> we just don't know the final result of because there's this back and forth <hes> i done the president. The administration say they done on there could be a deal. They say they've done the chinese. Maybe coming in september but then you hear the president say that <hes> that he's not ready to make a deal a comment. He made this past week so we just don't know about that. What we do no <hes> is that discussions are continuing <hes> but <hes> other discussions are continuing as well including japan <hes> and <hes> <hes> also <hes> with <hes> between the white house and congress to get the u._s. Mexico canada agreement done so there is a heavy activity early on the trade front. We spoke this past week with a senate finance committee chair chuck grassley whose committee has trae jurisdiction. He says he's very optimistic. Pick-up about japan i would expect an announcement in the next couple of weeks even went so far as to say could precede ratification of the congress of the u._s. Mexico mexico canada deal and the doug thank <hes> great now that you pan <hes> if there is a trade agreement with may drive occasion by the congress on it done it could simply be done and signed by the administration <hes> not something that is covered by the trade promotion emotional or fast track process in congress <hes> he's also optimistic. There could be a deal with the united kingdom whether or not there's a hard or soft border her between northern ireland and republic of ireland. He says he's met with trade ministers from london. They take either way. This can be done although there is a huge pressure here in washington <hes> by <hes> the democrats to make sure that there is an open border because that would prevent renewed violence. I hi in or help. Prevent it in ireland matt as always thanks for your continued to cover it mckay washington correspondent. We'll be back with more r._s._d. Illinois you're going going to need me. You're going to us. All all of us going to need our technical skills or math or engineering skills. You're going to need our help with your water. Your air your food. You're going to need our organizational skills. Our problem-solving skills hill going to need our determination. Our honesty our compassion. You're going to need the next generation of leaders to face the challenges. The future future'll bring and we promise we'll be there when you today four h is growing the next generation ration- of leaders support us at four h dot org this is. Let's talk horses on our f._d._u. Radio network. I'm jason fans. Taylor famous and extension equine specialist permission state is with us to visit about coaching a horse judging team and taylor when it comes to forming a judging team. What is the first thing to consider well. The first thing to consider when coaching a horse judging team after you've got individuals that are just excited and ready to learn is to assess where your areas of weakness and strength are know which classes you might have a good base the knowledge in those that you feel pretty unfamiliar with and feel free to line up different resources different experts in those areas so that you can call pablum when you need to teach your team about that specific class or type of writing tools a little bit about competitive horse judging a a lot of people don't know about competitor judging and to be honest. I was one of those people until i went to grad school and that's where i learned about it. I fell in love with it and now i'm. I'm so glad that i'm m._s._u. Horse judging coach. It's absolutely one of the most fun part of my job. What it is is in our particular case. It's collegiate students but there's also oh f._f._a. And four h. divisions throughout the nation and there are different contests setup by breed organizations or different shows goes and they'll set up basically like a mini horse show. Every single class is just four horses. There's two different types of classes. They'll be judging halter classes or performance classes. Halter classes are essentially on confirmation performance are when they're writing and then they turn in what they feel the correct placings are and then they do have to defend some of those placings using oral reason so after the whole day they judge classes to give oral reasons then there's generally an awards program where they get awards based on the team that placed the classes the the best in the team's top the best sets of oral reasons so what he do when a team has different experience levels or say you know a couple of team members i have been judging for a while and maybe a couple of others are relatively new to it well. I'm used to working with this so it's most often that all all the students that i work with are very new horse judging there. I experienced their first exposure to it was our intro spring class at michigan n._c. University so every once in a while we'll have a couple that are pretty familiar. They did it in four h. r. f._f._a. And those years are great because i'm able to use those students as examples or mentors for the last experience students one thing that i like to do you can tell when the students students start working together some will rise to the top some of your more talented students or some that are better giving oral reasons or better placing so what i like to to do with oral reasons is make sure that the different team members have the opportunity to hear each other give oral reasons and learning from your peers is one of the best sways to learn and to remember <hes> different tips which when you're coaching at horse judging team what are the keys to being successful and also making making sure that the members enjoy it as a coach. I feel like one of the keys to being successful is just be fair with your team members. Let them know early on what your expectations are which is really easy for me because i have a syllabus right at the beginning but if you were even coaching a four h. team it's not a bad idea. Give them an agenda for say say your practice even when you expect practice what you expect from them what you expect of yourself and when those are laid out really clearly it can be a whole lot more fun and then when those expectations are not met it will be easier to approach that subject because you you laid those out right at the beginning. I like to be really fair with my students but i also like to be their friend watched them grow and hopefully develop relationship beyond the team and i have ended up in my extension <hes> i i have a lot of volunteers now through my different teams that i've coached a lot of them wanna stick around and help in any way they can and so i'm able to utilize their talents in extension and that was because i was very clear at the beginning what my expectations were of them. I ended up becoming a mentor to them and vice versa and so i keep them around. We'll tell you thank you so much for joining us today. Thanks for having me. That's favors davis an extension equine specialist at michigan state university. She's been our guest on. Let's talk horses on the r._f._i._d. Radio network thanks for listening. Please tune in next time for another addition of. Let's talk horses. Hello america and welcome to the resource livestock market watch. I'm nathan locie see with agresource company in chicago. 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July pork stocks still nine percent over last year he was pork market is heavily supplied production rates will hold the record levels into the end of the year technically hog futures are deeply oversold levels but the cash market continuing down every day five features then the week near sixty dollars the lowest since last march with long term support expected affected fifty to fifty five dollars later this fall a major increase in export demand is needed to change the supply driven bearish outlook cattle futures traded firm through the week with support coming from ideas the break at both the c._m._e. Ending the planes cash markets had been overdone initial castrating. The north was a couple of dollars higher trade in the south held until friday and was a dollar higher at one. Oh six technically spot futures bounced off one hundred dollars for both the semi and planes cash markets will be well supported. The first target for december cattle is at one hundred eleven dollars for the much much stronger rallied back to one twenty to one twenty four could be under way through the fourth quarter as packers take advantage of the strong margins that have been offered in the last two weeks until next time. I'm nathan and locie and thanks for listening this week. The agresource livestock market watch. Thanks nathan difficult report to endure but that is the way the market gone late deserved illinois. We break for market. Were university of illinois extension. I'm todd gleason. The weather is next <music>. Illinois state climatologist office for the illinois state water survey at the university diversity of illinois prairie research institute. This is kevin grady much of illinois saw periods of showers and storms this past week with most of the state receiving over an inch of rain a particularly strong set of storms moved across the state tuesday morning the storm prediction center received numerous wind damage reports from these tuesday storms from the quad cities southeast through central illinois temperatures were also warmer than average for most of the state this week especially especially in southern illinois which highs commonly in the nineties on monday so far is a whole august temperatures have been close to average across illinois. Most of the state has also been drier than average in august except for parts of central illinois between i seventy to sixty four which has seen up to two inches inches above average rain. The national weather service is calling for cooler drier and less humid conditions across most of illinois this weekend with with highs generally in the mid seventies up to around eighty knows in the mid fifty s to mid sixties looking ahead the six to ten day outlook from from the climate prediction center is calling for these cooler conditions to continue favoring moderate probabilities of below average temperatures throughout illinois. Uh slight probabilities of above average precipitation are also favored across the state. This is kevin grady from the illinois state climatologist and i'm talk gleason extension. You have a great and very safe week and check the markets carl agrivisor down again for corn and soybeans the beans on much positive for commentary after another week like this you don't we hit them in the one thing that we gotta look at we we gotta go in puerto straight. Now is we are rate at technical support and that is holding the level were at for at least east corn and november emmer soya beans. Keep flirting with it but we are building above it. That's a good sign all in all day. Get through the tariff news everything out of the way we do have some brain spots coming at us not the big one that i'm looking at right now and it comes from an outside market is that dollar just dollar on five hundred seventy four points right now that seems negative but a weak dollar is supportive to u._s. Come on it is because it promotes exports exports and if you look at the week complex today he summer we'd up six sounds. We've been seeing strong exports of wheat. That's going to continue especially with that weaker dollar coming in you know we did have a setback today. The tariff news is all that matters through the weather throughout the trump tower numbers coming in the trade focused on them their numbers and that was it. We are looking at some long range weather forecast. It's gonna be cold extremely unseasonably cold in our the corn hornbill. That's gonna start to get a little bit more traction ear. I do believe it's not really gonna hurt the crap but what it's going to keep that crop maturing at a slow pace pace pretty soon. We're going to be up against them. First prostates and that's when the market is gonna start to react the best chance for recovery right now <hes> soybeans i. I think we do stabilized a little bit like it said that tariff news really got us to lost. We gotta get them taken care of get that flushed out of the system and then we'll turnaround earl censored agrivisor hi. This is sabrina hearty r._s._d. Business manager. I want to thank you. You are listening to the radio network the number one ad radio network in illinois. Did you know are the radio. 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The findings were sometimes difficult to read. It's hard to hear that the staff that you work with so closely didn't feel valued and respected back the way they show mike madigan has not directly blamed for the problems of harassment and bullying cited in the report but his former chief of staff who wielded enormous power in the state capital apple is criticized for cultivating a culture of fear well as you know. The culture of sexual harassment exists in springfield on both sides of the aisle. I i am counting on the speaker and the senate president and the minority leader of the house and the minority leader of the senate to carry out functions that will safeguard safeguard women. Anybody could be sexually harassed or attacked. Speaker dropped the ball with. I think it's it's clear that both sides of the aisle because you've you've heard this on on the other side of the in how he i think leadership in springfield everybody in springfield in a way <hes> we've let this culture go on to who i mean. I showed up seven months ago but this culture has been around for a long time governor jay pritzker responding to the findings of an audits of illinois the house speaker's office it discovered that harassment and bullying led to a culture of fear in that office the speaker michael madigan making the findings public. He was quick to point out changes. Is that have taken place what we take away from this and we'll talk about that and more coming up on state week in springfield. I'm shawn crawford and joined in studio by shirley wheeler you're a longtime journalist in statehouse observer and the outgoing director of the public affairs reporting program at the university of illinois springfield and joining us from chicago. We have w._b._z.'s oh you be easies. Political reporters dave mckinney and tony arnold and guys. It's good to have you on once again. Thanks you don't go to you first. Let's let's walk back act to win this. What we're calling an audit when this i actually <hes> got underway what led to this happening. What led to this happening was was <hes> several women started going public with accusations about whether individual lawmakers or just the overall culture <hes> at the illinois statehouse being ripe for <hes> this culture of sexual harassment or abuse or worse and bullying and then there are just these individual accusations that were made it began the first public airing of this after the the news articles about harvey weinstein came came out in the move metoo movement started going the first elected official to be accused was state senator ira silverstein who was accused by an advocate kid of inappropriate <hes> text messages and talking with an with an advocate of bill that he was carrying and it just kind of went from there into this realm of other other lawmakers have been accused all makers themselves have launched accusations and <hes> and then it kind of piqued when and the chief of staff of house speaker michael madigan was accused of bullying and then promptly fired and after that that's when this re madigan commissioned mission a report for the speaker's office with this law firm in chicago it took about fourteen months for this report to <hes> to come out out for this investigation to go go through the cost of at least six hundred and forty four thousand dollars that we know of so far to tax payers to come up with a report that that basically says there's been a there is a culture here in the speaker's office of bullying and then people didn't feel like they could come forward or talk even give their name without some kind of retribution <hes> as a result of of what they had to say dave. Let's talk about some of the specific findings in this <hes>. I don't know shocking is the right word but it certainly does show there was intimidation apparently going on in that office and some sexual harassment as well yeah. I mean for sure or it for all of us who've been at the capitol. I mean i remember i used to counsel students charlie's program at why would have an intern that that would come in <hes> you know be around for a year and you know i'd say you look. There are some lecherous people out there. Be on your toes. Don't don't just be careful and that's what this report really kind kind of verified in some ways. It was two pronged me. It talked about the sexual harassment piece of it. It talked about the bullying piece of it. You know on the sexual harassment part of it you know i think it kind of went into detail about how <hes> you know a lot of the women staffers. Would you know especially you know young ones. Maybe this will be their first job. They would they would. They would be worn borne by some of their colleagues. You know don't don't drink alcohol. If you go out. Don't go out late at night with legislators and lobbyists don't <hes> you know some of them went so far as wearing fake waiting rings to kind of show shoe some of these <hes> people away i mean there was one phrase that i remember the report that that that came out this week. You know a creepy creepy behavior. That's what a lot of these women staffers had work and live around and so you know i i read the thing and i just felt empathy empathy for a lot of these people especially young people because it's like you know these the i it could be the first job some of these people had they are interested in politics that they think they're going to change the world world and then it's like this this environment where you know it's kind of you know as the reports said creepy behavior and then on the bullying side with makes <hes> there were there were a lot of allegations that were laid out there about how how <hes> makes allegedly would would you you know tell people that they were dispensable. He would threaten in their jobs you know and and it was just you know people i think working under under in that environment felt on edge constantly. There was another piece of it as well that that some of the legislative assistance you know in addition to the the the normal duties you would expect someone to have in dealing with constituent complaints. It's and and various things like that. They would also have to take on duties like vacuuming the home of a legislator that was singled out in the report or or or running errands for legislators. Here's our or <hes> helping legislators sell their homes. I mean things that you know when we as taxpayers or are helping float this entire operation. You don't expect that's going the money's use force so that's the the overarching examples that i that stood out to me and the report. Tim matrix was the longtime chief of staff. He was is basically force. Doubts over after these allegations became public <hes> and he's been out of office now <hes> therefore <hes> several months tony he did respond to this audit audit <hes> kind of issued his own statement about the findings in that statement. This is really the most we've heard from him since he was fired <hes> a year ago a little over a year ago <hes> but he he basically did apologize and also but also kind of there's a lengthy statement and there was also also part in there about how some people might not he accepts the criticism but also those who offer the the the critics might not understand the full scope of of his his responsibilities. I think is how is how he framed. It basically saying he had so much to do that. That maybe maybe you know. It sounds like it sounds like there's so much responsibility. Critics wouldn't understand all that he had do and that's that's his point of view and he's been out of out of the house of representatives now for as chief of staff and also as executive director of this illinois democ- democratic party of illinois <hes>. I'm for the last year and two months now. I'd say shirley. Let me get your thoughts on this. You've <hes> certainly watch the culture at the state house for years and you know i hate to say it it but for all of us who've worked around it and seen it a lot of these things are not terribly surprising. Maybe when you see them all one report you realize just the magnitude of it but it's <hes>. I want to get your thoughts on on what you've heard so far yeah. I was not surprised i'll confess. I didn't read the whole thing that i've read all the newspaper stories and i was was not surprised that this kind of culture exists because back in my day <hes> it did it was kind of a good old boy type of network where guys would hit on women in a way that was not acceptable acceptable. It shouldn't have been acceptable then but it was kind of well. That's the way it goes. I remember walking in the tunnel between the state house and the stratton building behind a couple of women and children was saying senator so and so's really been giving me a rough time. She is different words but and the response was well yeah but you need that job ebb and that was the attitude was one kind of hilarious thing. We're one notorious lawmaker. <hes> was hitting on this young woman unbeknownst to him emmett. Was somebody else's wife. Some one of his colleagues wife and i had a situation dave mentioned alerting his students <hes> we did that with our students. All the time. I remember one occasion where a young woman came up one of my interns or one of my students interning and talked about a particular lawmaker who was giving a rough time and it was the democrat. I told steve brown madigan's guy that this is happening coming in after that <hes> the lawmaker never spoke to her again. I mean whatever's assuming was that brown told madigan or maybe brown himself went and told the guy to knock it off charlie that the stories like that they're they're everywhere. I am one of my interns. When your students that i had one year i remember you know she he was sitting in the house press box and and you know had been covering that day session and then she came back to me and she says she talked about how this legislator had come up behind her just sort of nestled up behind her and then slipped her a piece of paper and said if you ever get lonely call this number and i was just aghast. I'm like seriously this. This is not not this is not acceptable behavior you know and that that just really kind of sharpened my focus on this thing because it's you know that's not acceptable behavior in a workplace. Let me ask you this. Dave madigan has been known for years to be <hes>. You know attention to detail guy. He's in control. He knows what's going on things. It's like this occur and it seemed as though i don't wanna see that madigan was sort of given a pass on this but it did seem as though that in some ways <hes> michael madigan again was th- was secondary to people like to make in this report. I want to get your thoughts on that. Well i mean maybe tony is the better one to answer this because tony went to the effort of counting up the number references to madigan intimates and the chief of staff makes is mentioned twice as often as madigan throughout this report. This report is for all intents of purposes. It's it's a report about the chief of staff. Tim meets it's not madigan is in there but it's <hes> if you don't want to say i'm gonna pass that's fine. I'll say that madigan got a pass in this report and that's it would stand out because matt again at the end of the day. It's it's his. He's the speaker <hes> it's his. He's he's the one in charge and <hes> it kind of goes out the report. This audit goes out of its way to talk about how madigan <hes> is is basically not seen. He's it almost makes it sound like he's hands off to to so much that his own staff fears that they don't have of coming forward with any complaints because they don't think that madigan again we have their back because he doesn't know who they are because they never see him <hes> so to me read to me as as as giving madigan a pass for the culture in his own office reading the new stories <hes> one of the things that struck me several stories mentioned how some of the people who talked about the bullying culture nonetheless were supportive of madigan in his role and there was no allegation against madigan directly directly. I think it was just the we're talking about. It was under his watch. Is that what you're saying. Dave will know what i'm going to say. It was just the idea that that <hes> you know. I'm willing to give madigan credit it for you know initiating the study making it public i mean he he did something similar to this last year on his own where where there were there were details that he throughout the the talked about this kind of behavior <hes> internally but you know what it it just kept reading this thing and you know thinking about the famous amos harry truman statement. The buck stops here. You know we have this person who's a messed all this power and has this this <hes> unmatched career and yet this is <hes> this. This is a bit of a more than a bit. It's a blemish on that stewardship because ultimately he is the one that's in charge of this organization and it was up to him to make sure this kind of conduct. You know that it just flat out didn't happen now. You know there are other lots lots of other tentacles of state government that that have not undergone this level of scrutiny. You can start with the secretary of state's office for example. I mean that is a massive bureaucracy with offices in virtually every community in the state. You know let's see let's see if jesse white initiates something like this <hes> other branches of the or other parts of the legislature the state judiciary. I mean everybody everybody could could benefit probably from you know the the eye opening experience that we're all you know having now with this one report but i think it's it's not just isolated of the illinois house and surely you said this before but this is not necessarily. This is a bipartisan problem. It has been for a number of years at the capital so <hes> you know i'm not trying to just usc pick on madigan's office but you're right <hes> what what david said there this is this is a level of scrutiny. A lot of you know dirty laundry being aired at this point about what what has taken place there but but it probably is much more prevalent <hes> throughout state government and other places oh yeah i. I don't think there's anything about the house democratic caucus. Is that <hes> you know. They've all been infected with a virus of lecturers. That hasn't affected anybody else. There were a couple of republicans a republican legislator who resigned his seat because he was. I'd say foolishly would be charitably responded to some anonymous non well person asking him on. I think it was on facebook. Would you be my friend and i think he wound up sending her money. There was another one who resigned and is still awaiting trial on charges that he sent sexually explicit pictures of a former girlfriend and he communicated those the social media in those guys are republicans so as i said it's everywhere maybe part of a two is that makes had so many. He had three major roles either which would be a full-time job for anybody. He was a chief of staff which is a fulltime job. It was also house clerk overseeing. I don't know how big the operation is but it's dozens of people who work for the clerk's office. It's all the people who staff the committee's all all the people who do the behind the scenes paper pushing and he was also the executive security democratic party <hes>. That's an awful lot of responsibility suty for one single guy. Well let me ask about what has been done in the house tony or david if you could weigh in on this <hes> madigan made hey this clear and his statement that you know that they have put some out if you won't come call them safeguards or changes that have been put in place but <hes> does it seem as though they're on the right path to trying trying to resolve these issues well the report recommends that madigan not consolidate power under one person again like he did with makes for so long and <hes> it looks like madigan again has has begun that process <hes> and you know the report goes on to say maybe higher ethics officer do employee aleve valuations like what you might see in the corporate world <hes> things like that so <hes> some of that some of those recommendations. I think madigan's already started to do but let's let's also keep in mind here that it's not just on the in the speaker's office it's also in the political world as well <hes> in madigan's political operations right in our in the middle of a ongoing civil lawsuit somehow we've gone this conversation without talking about elena hampton and and her <hes> civil case against mattias mattias political operations for not properly handling her her complaints of harassment from <hes> a colleague who happened to be the brother of of chicago aldermen and madigan's <hes> homeward in chicago i mean i think this is going to be one of those. Things you not to use that. Angel cliche. Time will tell but i can think back over the years like with madigan where you know. He wasn't particularly interested in a lot of people looking into his business. I mean and i the one example i can think of that's clear as day is the legislative inspector general i mean this is a this was an entity that that you know he helped create but in a lotta ways it was sort of a toothless tiger and there were a number of years that it went the job just sat vacant and and so you know we see there where they're supposed to be an ethics watchdog kind of patrolling the halls of of the illinois legislature and there wasn't a great deal of interest in having a a a very strong person or even a person at all in that seat so within this organization <hes> will people's complaints be taken seriously in in. Is there a clear pathway to make a complaint. That's what what needs to happen here. And these people you have to understand a lot of them are being paid thirty forty fifty two thousand dollars a year and that's a lot of money to some of these people and there's a great power imbalance where single legislator who says a bad word about one of these people can can re- you know lead to their ouster and so that that power imbalance is always going to be there but what what really is important is that there is a pathway that these complaints get taken seriously your sleep and adjudicated. I think you hit on the head. When you said time will tell so. We will part of it. Too is is just the the overall mentality 'cause i'm of michael. Madigan's generation a couple months older than he was. I was born in november. He was born in april hit. The i i was the pre pearl harbor baby but growing up the kind of things that were accepted in terms of how you related to women how how you related to people of color are kind of things that looking back would be outrageous today and should outrageous then but there was kind of expectation that well you're a guy in of course you're going to hit on women of course you're gonna say these suggestive things. You don't really mean anything without ever taking account. How does the woman feel when she here's this trying to put yourself in her shoes. What discomfort in my causing her and you ever thought about that stuff. I think thankfully now we're starting and you look that approach. You don't just blurt out anything you think. How is this going to affect the person to whom i'm addressing it and i think even as members of the media we have seen it and probably not reported on it it as much as we should have in the past so again. This is something we'll continue to watch. I do want to move on with the last few minutes. We have left here though we did have another issue that had cropped up over the weekend again last weekend <hes> and actually was making quite a bit of headlines until the madigan audit reports was released but this involved a state senator martin sandoval he was holding holding a fundraiser and video from that fundraiser surfaced in which it showed somebody a doing a mock assassination. I guess you would call it. If president trump dave this was this. I've got a lot of attention <hes> not just here but across the country and <hes> <hes> what do we know about this. I know that the senator has apologize yeah. I mean this. Is you say it went viral and i mean this is a story that our colleague mark maxwell broke that you know it was a it was a big party and annual fundraiser for santa all in the in the suburbs and you know there were these characters. There's that were wearing these. <hes> you know the <hes> lookalike masks and trump was one of them and and this th there's a picture of someone using a like a drink drink dispenser that looked like a gun and and the person who's wearing the trump mask you know the guns pointing at him that trump person is putting his hand over his one inside of his chest and and so that's what what we see and you know and it's just a <hes>. I think it's one of those things that that blew up unexpectedly because these guys were horsing around but it's a serious thing in the client in this climate were dealing with where <hes> you know. The level of civil discourse is just kind of in ruin and a a lot of places and this just doesn't help things and and so it was an embarrassment for san of all what what we don't know is the you know neither the senator senator. Certainly you know who this person is. I would think but has not chosen to identify them. <hes> you know there. There have been leads all week that that many of us have been pursuing about you. You know the person being you know. Possibly a realtor appeared in chicago and <hes>. What have you but i do know for a fact that the secret service was aware of this. Yes and you know what they're doing with it. I don't know but you know they looked at it as sort of a serious issue enough that it caught their attention and if i'm the guy that you know either of these people people who was screwing around that day i don't think you necessarily want to go out and attract the attention of the secret service but that's what they did in this follows of course on the heels of some other social show media posts from political organizations in the state that have been called into question so it just <hes> we devolve a little bit more. It seems like each week before we run out of time so i want it since i have both of you fellas on <hes> and you follow what's going on in chicago as well. <hes> chicago's mayor lory lightfoot has mentioned she wants some things from state lawmakers and tony <hes> she has some specific. I guess you would call them asks of the legislature <hes> explain what she's looking at well. She's she's about to give she's <hes>. She's on the heels of about two to give a major budget address. It's detailing how awful the city's finances are. There's there's there's a giant budget gap that she's going to to address and give some details on explained fully basically how she intends to fill this gap and it's gonna she's gonna rely heavily on springfield to fill that gap <hes> she's currently weighing whether whether or how much to increase property taxes in the city is one thing but as far as what she needs from springfield he's floating these ideas such as <hes> taxing high end services like accounting or legal legal work <hes> big law firms big accounting firms that kind of thing also transfer tax on the selling of million dollar homes <hes> <hes> so she's she's going after some of those industries that are affected <hes> rich people in addition to the fact that she's she's going around saying that this the the gambling expansion bill that passed springfield and assigned by pritzker just doesn't work for the casino industry for the chicago casino. She's basically saying no. No casino operator is going to make enough money to make it worth their time so she must've propose a fix for that so that the chicago can get going <hes> and the city can get is money off of that and i did see <hes> both the senate democratic spokesperson. John patterson also saw <hes> the majority leader in the house. Greg harris had both gun indicated indicated. These are heavy lifts for the legislature so there's not necessarily a guarantee that everything she wants is going to get through that right dave. Oh yeah i mean we're talking about six days as an october november and that's a lot of not not a lot of time to you know take on a lot of controversial issues and i mean there's always you know geopolitical divide in illinois that we face face chicago wants something. What about everybody else and that that's that's the problem that then mayor lightfoot is going to have to confront here if she's going to try to get this thing through in the fall charlie charlie. She's got political capital though at this point so maybe she's trained to use it while she has it yet and i would hope that she's also got the political smarts that she's not gonna wait to start putting this together until like dave said the the next to last week in october. I think it is the last week in october but she's going to be working on it right now going along so that there's a deal is pretty well set so that when they come back for those six days they'll have something ready to go oh just because if she if she waits until the session starts right done just a little over a minute or so to go but tony can you fill us in we're hearing bring a rumblings at this point that we may not have heard the last of the former congressman joe walsh from illinois. <hes> might be considering a presidential primary run against president president donald trump running as a republican and this is a former congressman from chicago suburbs who now has an overnight radio show. That's that syndicated across the country. <hes> you know he's on twitter he. He's he's defended the use of the n. word before he's talked about grabbing your musket in going into war. If hillary clinton had won in twenty sixteen he was trump defender who now is the trump opponent to the point that he's floating the idea of running for president. He actually did the same thing against against bruce rounder <hes> in rounders reelection bid. He thought maybe he would run for governor. Ended up going to then state representative genie i've so he's just kind of doing the the same thing that he did to rounder now to to donald trump and we'll see if he actually gets any kind of support or signatures or whatever operation he needs to get into effect actually actually actually get some kind of operation going in iowa new hampshire and those early primary states. I mean what's striking. Is that this is. It doesn't seem as if president trump is too worried about him because now now you know since since all of this scuttle bug about wash emerging i mean we haven't seen a single presidential tweet belittling joe walsh giving him a nickname or anything so he doesn't seem to it'd be on trump's radar. Let's go to our notes from the field and charlie. Let's go to one of the bills that the governor signed and he's been very busy. Signing bills only got <hes> well. I think roughly a week to finish with some six hundred bills at the legislature sent him was one that <hes> increases that a minimum wage page for teachers and it's designed to deal with a teacher shortage by making sure that teachers get paid higher salaries the last time the minimum wage for teachers was raised was in one thousand nine hundred eighty and it was raised to ten thousand dollars a year so under this new measure over the course of the the next several years it would go up to forty thousand by the twenty twenty three twenty twenty four school year in the idea as i say is to try to attract more the people into the profession now the downside which we've been hearing particularly from some downstate in rural school superintendents is that we can't afford this. We're going to have to raise property taxes. Although i think governor pritzker signing this mentioned how the state has been putting more money into education the less several years and i guess he intends to keep going forward with it so baby. The notion is that these higher salaries will be covered by this additional state aid. We'll do it for this week. State week. Members of our broadcast included shirley wheeler as well as dave mckinney and tony arnold from w._b._z. in chicago. Get a podcast of our show at n._p._r. Illinois dot org production assistance for the program provided by bob meyer. I'm shawn crawford. You've been listening to state week. A program of commentary and analysis of events in illinois state politics and government state week is produced produced in the state capital by public radio station n._p._r. Illinois this is v._r. Illinois public radio cancer is is the number one cause of death by disease for children in the u._s. 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He was an asset to the community because he was in the radio. Of course you know f._m. F._m. radio stations and country music and what have you. I love his voice. I've always wanted to have one of those. You know i don't know what maybe we need to e. Cute my voice so that i can. It sounds like the folks good morning. Welcome to bobby like scarponi. I'm smiling because looking at things on my desk here in information and i'll share with you this morning and i heard mardi say welcome to bobby licensure said oh it's time time from the program. Mommy llagas carpeting is brought to you this morning. 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There's more to craft ride part priced right learn more about motor craft loaded struts and other high quality vehicles pacific parts at motor craft dot com. You're listening to bobby like his car clinic and now back to body and your host bobby likes and good mortar folks welcome to this edition of bobby like his car clinic <hes> beautiful day hot. I mean like ninety. You and i walked out. I got mugged when i walked out of the house on got mugged and i'm driving a rental car. I'll take that back. I'm driving a ritual s._u._v. It's huge. It is huge in folks. You know have a porsche and then my wife drive the smart car which is a small car. Which is the latest the latest edition of two thousand sixteen. It's a bad car. It is a i can tell you for whatever you think about smart cars. If you drove her car you would change the why you felt about the automobile why it has a dual clutch transmission for one thing and that was a funky est things about that cars when they came out with those cars was a transmission commission a transmission in a regular smart car. I'm talking about in two thousand eight through two thousand fifty well through two thousand seventeen gene but in fifteen sixteen seventeen they changed the car and they they added the option yeah for nine hundred ninety dollars of the option of a dual clutch transmission mission and a dual clutch transmission shifts get this and the new twenty twenty mustang which i just read the stats on and i really impressed with and i've never been a mustang count of a guy. I mean you know you mustang owners. He's seen one you seen them all. I mean literally now. It's really there. There are some really cool things one that runs around our neighborhood. I'll say our neighborhood. I see it going up and down. The davis highway in front of my facility is a the white one. I think it belongs to someone in the navy naval air station which is here in pensacola florida view who are tuned in cross. The nation are naval aviation the museum at n._a._s._a. Naval air station pensacola is the second largest in the world and it is drop dead gorgeous and you know if anyone's in the military and they f- florida plane they've come through pensacola florida at n._a._s. It's a huge part of our community and <hes> we're proud really proud to be associated and have of the all of the the great officers and an enlisted men right here in in our and women in our community and and to that end there's a one what enlisted fellow that has a white enlisted or not but it doesn't matter <hes> in a white mustang with blue stripes on it and it keeps it meticulously really it's just really beautiful and it doesn't have that it doesn't have any you really wide while while wheels or or or spoilers lers or any of those things that that we all do to our cars to make to personalize the car but he has a personalized but it it it would great taste one of these days. I'm gonna pull him over wave at him and stop. I don't know if you've ever done that. I mean i pull up to the traffic light. I mean how many times think about it. Let's say you drew out an old classic car and i i have one of course a porsche and you've got a car and somebody pulls up today and said hey that is a beautiful fifty five chevy your whatever if you ever want to sell that car let me know so if you ever decide you want to sell the car until you you happen to see the person on the street and you you say hey i decide to sell my car. He called the bluff. I don't think i've ever seen anybody that would say okay. Yeah i really might today but what it's a great way to complement and another person if you like their automobiles and that's what bobby like his carpeting is all about not not just classic cars and liking automobiles but it's about automobiles. We'll build obviously obviously but my goal and the reason that i'm here and not sleeping in this morning i mean it is saturday right for twenty eight years every saturday or here i am <hes> so i really enjoy <hes> bringing to you information and about automobiles it but mainly mainly not fix. Your car is upset thousands of times. I can't do that over the over the air although we've. We've certainly done that from time to time but i am. I'm here to give you buzzwords so that when you go into a service shop you know the right questions to ask and that's what's important like going to a doctor immediately eighty leave there. Oh i wish i ask him. You know hurt until but but i can help you there. <hes> we'll take a call from missouri and then hangup is <hes> is here today and we'll as a as she is every saturday <hes> doing a great job triple eight car. Clinic is a number which happened to be our number which happens to be the toll free number triple triple eight two two seven twenty five forty six. Write it down. Write it down so that a little later in the program. I'll get around to call no no and then we have about four fabrio. We have like what's the last eight minutes of the program of each hour is helter skelter when you try got a crash all the calls in so and that's because a lot of folks like you though do you listening so i've never called it on. I don't want to talk to tamale on the air. Well then forget the airport. We're just a conversation you just you and me and then it really seriously oh okay. There are thousands of people to them. It doesn't matter you know what they all drive cars too so when you have a question about your car that i can help you with while i'm helping you. I'm helping thousands of others which similar problems you get it. It really does work. It's worked for twenty eight years and i see i doubt in the work for another twenty eight years because if i if if that were the case i would live to be old. I would live to be old. Ooh and i don't know what it feels like to be old and i don't know what old is. I know what all was when i was thirty twenty. Oh was fifty i never i thought i'd lived to be fifty fabio. How old are you twenty nine. Twenty nine did also does fifty sound to you. How old are your parents in their fifties enter fifties. I mean this is really funny. So you know so. I could be your parents parrot. We should change the subject not doesn't matter triple eight two two seven twenty five forty six. We'll go to tracy who has in ninety two toyota wagon so there was a gentleman that lived in gulf breeze and i forget his name now which i hadn't because i've seen his daughter out out every other five years and he's passed but he had a toyota and he called tau ota. I'm in a cozy. He call all he came into the shop. On this years ago twenty five years ago i guess and i've been in the business forty eight years and he came out. I've got a bobby got touted at home and after about three four minutes talking with him. I finally had to say well. What what what series is. Your is your car because i didn't know what he's talking about. He called his toyota todd or something like that. He had his own his own little quirks and i made fun of it and we you know why not i mean it's not tiled is like hunt. You know what i say. Hyundai is like sunday. We did a show one day on that. I need to go and take this call triple eight. I'll take your call all triple eight two two seven twenty five forty six tracy. Thanks for holding while i was you know doing whatever it is that i do saturdays. Thank you for holding welcome to bobby like as carcinogenic clinic. Oh thank you so much for taking my call sure. We're gonna move forward well again. It's a ninety two toyota wagon and originally i had <hes> some contamination in the brake system and i've pretty much replaced <hes> everything and right now. I'm having problems with the front brakes. <hes> either dragging are almost locking up overheating the throat. The justed adjusted the <hes> master cylinder ran okay for two or three days and now it's back to the same okay every <hes> <hes> and and that's the happens and gosh when it does happen that being the contamination that contamination means when you put a petroleum product in the matter in the brake system and and instead of brake fluid because brake fluid is hygroscopic topic which means that it mix it with water it it actually attracts moisture but and that's okay. That's the reason we flush rush systems every two years to get rid of the moisture. The moisture causes <hes> corrosion buildup but on the other side of that coin when a petroleum petroleum product is accidentally added to the system every rubber product in that system every seal l. swells and what happens and think about have you ever <hes> racine. You've been the hospital and watch them to draw blood or insert i._v. Or or a shot a flu shot or something right. Okay okay well. That's how oh you brakes work because in a syringe that we use to inject liquid medicine in our bodies. There's a plunger and seal. We'll all ring seal and in your brake system. That's exactly how it works. The master cylinder has a plunger with the with two seals. It has a plunger that has a double seal in one seal pushes fluid to the rear end the other c._e._o. Pushes fluid to the to the front that way. If you lost the front brakes had you'd still have the rear so safety aspects and manufacture did it for a long time so what has happened. Is that whatever you put in. There contaminated the system and swelled the seals so now when when you a- and i'm i'm thinking about a break right now because we have a hard break coming up so <hes> tracy you stay there. It was like transmission foothill yeah right right petroleum because i didn't do it so you will. You stay right there. Madera is when i come back. I'll give you the rest of the the story because this is a really important for everyone would regard to the type of fluid knock to put in your brake system. They'll go. I'll be back entertainment systems backup. Cameras amer starr stopped technology just a few of the electric man. We put on today's cars a._g._m. Or absorbent glass mat batteries are up to the challenge there precision engineered to offer ultimate combination of power our ability and reliability what affects battery performance harsh climates frequent stopping rush hour traffic had aggressive driving all wear your battery with its compressed sell designing glass mat separators a._g._m. 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Away chevy equinox rolled into the shop this week with a whopping three hundred and fifteen thousand miles the vehicles desperately need an oil change it was loaded with luggage in gear and the parents were taking in order to school college almost head to be put on hold though the radiator developed a small league that required immediate repair time was definitely not on our side has classes story the next day so we decided to use case seal casey. Il is a poor in solution designed to stop leaks and help prevent future leaks older sealers you sodium liam silicate which has the tendency to clog the system casey. Oh features ceramic technology. That's designed to repair the leak without clogging. We let the vehicle cool for the model title of casey cooling system topped off the antifreeze coolant and installed a new pressure cab happy to report the league was gone and our young friend did not miss a class. Ask casey at fine retailers everywhere like o'reilly auto parts. Don't just seal it case. You're listening into bobby like his car clinic and now back to body like conclave and your host bob and welcome back to the segment of bobby like his car clinic. <hes> your calls important that we communicate and i can help you. You know and i don't have my hand in your pocket. I mean i do promote products that we use in our shop. Show whenever you hear me talk about a product and it may be a sponsor a partner or not but just know that i've been tested that product and i use that product service shop so when you hear what i say on the air you can take it to the bank and and that's what's really important triple eight cartoon triple eight two two seven twenty five forty six talking with tracy tracy. I have a question for you after you. After it was discovered that the system had been contaminated has every component been replaced and when i say component i'm talking about <hes> the rear calipers are cylinders elders. The front calipers the brake hoses and the master cylinder and i'm afraid you don't have to replace a._b._s. Unit too so how what i units have been replaced since contamination occurred everything except the a._b._s. unit and the rear calipers all the hoses and the <hes> proportioning valve master cylinder as far as i know not the roeder's well i'm we only we only want to address the what's what has has rubber in it and then rubber would be seals and the a._b._s. unit has seals <hes> the <hes> <hes> well well the whole system really the hoses and the calipers and the and all of the seals inside so if if you get if you still have and you do that's why you call if you still have <hes> break and let's go back to the root of the problem you stated early on in addition to the contamination of the brake fluid that the front brakes were dragging that correct yes okay and how do you know that because the heat well it melted off both of my hubcaps at first and then after the adjustments i've been able to drive it some but it's still locks up brooke and drive it in reverse the other day but not forward cooled down. Well well well well. You still have a component that has not been replaced aced and you're going to have to replace it every component on it and trace it. Let me give you a brief of how it works and so that you'll know how to test it if if if when when you press on the brake pedal you it's just like pressing the syringe to put the medic medicine in your arm. You're pushing a piston that pushes fluid out right when you let all and so that the fact that fluid goes all the brakes front career through the a._b._s. and and all the systems and uses the force of about which you exert on the pedal when when you let off the pedal there no return springs there is on the brake pedal but the rest of the system doesn't use return springs. No that's not true for drum brakes. Let's forget about drum brakes. Let's just talk about the the front disc brakes those <hes> those pistons sons inside the caliber don't have any method to return and pull them back away from the rotor however so so they ride directly directly on the rotor full-time but because there's no pressure there just touching the rotor but not really stopping the rotor now now the nascar guys go step further to make sure that there's no drag whatsoever before they go out to <hes> lap brought to to to qualify lap they will take a tool and pushed the brake pads away from the rotor tiller so they're not even touching. They're just kind of loosen in trapped in within their fixture and that way they know there's zero drag into because any car are you that has disgraced if jack it up and spun the front wheel with your hand and not front wheel drive. I'm telling motto rear-drive car where you have nothing to keep khalil's from turning just on a bearing so if you spend the front wheel of a car with disc brakes it will term it won't spend freely because the patra touching and so if you had a way to pull those back now <hes> g._m. Uses square o-rings in there well. I don't know other companies as well but g._m. On the first you come out with square rings seals in the caliber so that the the pressure would push the seal up in contorts the seal because it's square and then when you let off the break the seal ever so slightly would try to straighten back out because it was being pushed sideways because it was square not not being not cirque perfect circle and that that allowed better gas mileage. That's what that was four to try to pull that caliber net pad back ever so slightly and ever so slightly would be the thickness of ah two newspapers at four thousands 'cause i if a bullet goes my your head and it and it measured by four thousand it doesn't hurt you. I mean four thousand is this is a blessing if you stop if someone if you if you crash his car and you and you stop your i mean you kissed the car but you didn't touch it. You you know what i'm saying. So in your case you have a fluid that you press the brake pedal through the master cylinder that that is being forced out. Unfortunately it can't get back because the rubber is swelled by the petroleum product and doesn't fit within its piston and the caliber and you're forcing it out but you don't have any process. The car has no process which the push it back back show if you here's what here's how you diagnose you not you but here's how you have a shop diagnose you you make the car lockup which you can do by driving the car okay and then you go to the wheel that you knows locking up which would be the front wheel bill and you lucien the brake line will now. It doesn't make any difference if there's any seals because you've opened the system you cut an artery and so whatever pressure is there to hold the brake pad. It's it's relieved so you you cut the bright line or illusion a bright line at the caliber and if there's fluid comes out you know that that that whatever's on the other side of that that is causing the problem but if you lose if you loosen the bright line and there's no pressure but you still can't turn wheel you know what's the caliber because there's no influence from the pressure because you've got you've got disconnected. You understand what i'm trying to say. They're hope oh okay all right so so you know so. It's just like washing your car in the driveway and you turn the hose on when you've got you know a a spray nozzle and then your then you let off right now well you couldn't disconnect the pipe from the house even if you turn the spigot off at the house because there's pressure in the hose so you have to have to turn the water off then press the hose lotto pressure bleed off and then you can disconnected from the house otherwise you get water in your face and i've go don't you you were saying out with this test. After you make the brakes lock up then you <hes> <hes> loosen the brake line at the caliber <hes> and you should hear a relief well i if well i if if yes you will if the brake problem is on the driver's side if its own the hose or the booster booster not booster or the a._b._s. are the master cylinder if it's upstream but if but if the piston is sticking in the bore and you loosen the break. I'm glad you're with me and you loosen the bright line. You've taken away all the pressure that is forcing to break piston the caliber pistol out and if you can't turn the wheel you know it's inside. The caliber literally disconnected padraic pressure from the car. You got me now. You have to try to turn steering wheel. No no i'm sorry the tire. I'm glad you asked the touchdown in other words. We're we're gonna. We're gonna cause a problem. We know that the front wheel is sticking so then we pull it into a garage jacquard up we try to spend the front wheel will and won't wanna spend it will you can force it but that's why it's getting hot because it's dragging show if we disconnected that caliber from the hose and a wheel freed up we would know that the problem was on the hose side and the hose a car side but if we disconnected the ho's who's and the wheel still would not turn that we know within the caliber and the caliber has to be replaced. You're not me okay so stanitsa caliber. Yes if if it won't spin and you've got the host disconnected from the caliber it is a calico caused the caliber doesn't have the ability to apply pressure unless you've got influence from the driver but you got it then you have the driver disconnected because it because you have that hose disconnected and if if that wheel of steel locked up it's gotta be the wheel. The wheel doesn't even know what's on the car nail. You got me yes and that cast a work on both sides because it felt side well. They're locking up well. It will work on both sides but you don't care because all you care about is just pick the one that's the hottest it's hard to turn and disconnect that line and th- and then we'll still hard to turn you know it's the caliber but i thought you said you'd replace the caliber. They were supposed to have been well. I don't understand supposed to have been. Don't you have a receipt for what was put on. The car is i've had it to four different own different. Oh okay gosh. I wish i could send you. I wish i guess i wish i could send you in missouri argue. Well i'll tell you. I wish i could send you a magic switch but here here's what what what what to do you you. Four shops really really. This is common. I mean you know shop on extend individual but okay well all right so so here's here's what i want you to do. I want you to which of the three shops that you've been to to. <hes> seems to be the easiest and best to work with the that the helps you to help you got one that does help me but your expertise is. Maybe what they're needing. Maybe they just start missing something. I believe shop okay so here's what then you're going to teach. This shop shop and this is going to be fun for you. Because what i'm telling you is a physical fact. You're going to teach that shop what they don't know so you're gonna call them and tell them to do that that you are set up an appointment that w- and tell them you're going to drive your car until the brakes lockup. You're going to bring and you want them to be immediately ready. Immediately ready to jack the car up and and cut to hose are disconnect the hose or unscrew it. I don't care you do that okay. Thanks for calling in the best of luck calling me back. If you need me folks amber. Malcolm is a star with racing wives and well. She's on the phone when i come back here really great about nascar. A two thousand fifteen four escape recently came into the shop one hundred twenty twenty thousand miles and going strong but it was starting to hesitate and the customer also complained of declining fuel economy. This two liter turbocharged engine is g._d._i. Or gas ask direct injection and special maintenance is needed in certain areas particularly the fuel system. We suspected carbon build up and sure enough using a borsch go through the smart doc plughole. There was definite evidence of carbon buildup g._d._i. Engines are different in the way they inject fuel and it can create some issues would repair and maintenance. That's why it's important to use products rated for v._d._i. Like barry months forced up professional air and fuel management and maintenance kit. Each step of the process is designed who g._d. Engines engines in mind. We use the kit and after two weeks on the road the cars performing noticeably better and mpg has improved bit learn more about very much four step professional national air and fuel management maintenance kit and other great products at berryman products dot com. You're listening to bobby like his car clinic and now back to bobby cochran and your host bobby likes and welcome welcome back to finish. We'll take your car questions soon so call triple eight car clinic on the car clinic hotline with now's amer balcon the fast and furious new girl in the racing world and aspiring nascar driver ambers one of the stars of c._m._t.'s new series racing wives racing wives this follows the lives of nascar's most prominent wives and women the new series follows the personal and professional lives of driver amber malkin samantha bush bush ashley bush whitney ward dylan and others in the lake norman area of north carolina where the who's who of star car racing lille's racing using wives offers a glimpse into the sport watched by millions each week but focuses own relatable issues such as family friendship careers and work balance. What's amber. Malcolm is from winnipeg canada. She started racing folks. When she was ten years old mostly on dirt track she joined the cast of racing wives lives as an opportunity to share her story. She doesn't come from money and she is a canadian woman. In a very american male centric sport through hard work and dedication asian she hoped to fulfill her dream of becoming a professional nascar driver and with it amber welcome you to bobby like his car clinic he hey buddy cianci show. You're welcome on excited to have you as a guest auto racing's pretty much in your blood share with our car clinic listeners and viewers your family's history degree in the sport and when you knew you wanted to be a part of it absolutely i grew up in dirt track racing my grandfather race sprint cars. My dad's instill racist to this day hearing since dirt late model uncle ray's my cousins race and i grew up at the race track of my parents met at the racetrack. I was at the track since i've been in my mom's belly so it really is in my blood and it's all i know the more that i was at the track them when i got to see everything of it the more i wanted to raise though at ten years old i after years of begging my dad finally said okay. If you wanna do this then you gotta do it on your own and that means working on the car yourself. I've been buying it too so <hes> definitely didn't have the easy route but it's been great because it's taught me a lot of skills and <hes> things that i would have never no-one otherwise so started in go. Karts needs to mini sprints than four tenths sprint cars on dirt and a few years ago transition to the pavement world. They're letting the well so amber. You're a canadian woman breaking into a very american and very male dominated sport. How's how's that experience been for you. So far definitely have had to overcome a lot of adversity. Being canadian in a male dominated american floridian female in a male dominated support. You know i had to get a visa be able to come to the u._s. To pursue my dream job as far as being a female i've always been female and so i don't really know anything different friends <hes> for me when i put that helmet on the car doesn't know my gender and i i'm a driver. That's it and i want to win as bad as the other drivers do the i'm just as aggressive with the driver driver. The car doesn't know gender and i just want to win or anything. That's a perfect mindset. You said that your goal oh it's too dry for kyle busch motorsports so tell our listeners viewers where you stand in reaching that goal you think you're going to be joining the cow busch motor sports firmly so the show actually goes into our story of samantha and i looking for sponsors to raise for kyle busch motorsports. Obviously you have to talk to college. If i'm a good fit for at he expects very very talented racecar drivers and <hes> he's not gonna let me in the car unless he talents blah so we'll see that in the show and whether i reached for the manatt you'll have to watch out folks. Were talking with amber balcon. One of the stars of racing wives so amber now. You're a part of the new show. Racing wives owns e._m._t. Fill our carpet listeners and viewers in win racing wives tares and then what made you want to be part of this show racing wives airs every day at ten nine central on mt and what really need evening wants to be a part of the show is because i thought it was such a great platform to me to get to share my story of what it takes to car driver and the different adversities and struggles that one on how to go through you know with ray things people think of you win races even get to the cup series when in actuality it's not the case that it's a very financially financially driven sport and so i need that financial backing and the help of on to be able to move on to the next level showing the different struggles and <hes> hopefully leave the exposure and being on a different platform will help attract sponsors and how the track to other companies to one partner with me and help me move up the ranks of nascar. Well no doubt you have a passion for your sport and <hes> you certainly sound like you have the ability now that you've had a taste of reality tv. How has that experience been for you. It's definitely taught me a lot. That's for sure it teaches you tough skin. You know there's a lotta is on you for people to judge and have opinions of you and for me. It's it's really just knowing myself and thinking to myself and being authentic and <hes> i came down here to drive cars and that's always been my focus and we'll always alex though i think as i say on track and they in my lane and continue to work hard than everything else hopefully will fall into place. Will i want the first to congratulate you on breaking through the crowd and and and i mean that literally and i wanna thank you for joining us on bobby like his car getting infosys amber balcony elkin. You'll be hearing more about this young lady. One of the stars of racing wives amber. Thank you so much good luck. You know break a leg as they say but of course outrun outrun everybody else it'd be the first of the finish line amer balcon star of racing wives. Thanks again for joining us on bobby like his car clinic today. Thank bobby appreciate having the yeah unless you break leg folks. She'll say yeah like us. I talked to carpet and he said breaking leg so i broke me now now. Let me tell you in this really interesting and i don't know if you were watching for those of you in watch bobby live <hes> but <hes> we we had some trump's e._m._t. We had <hes> a some b. Roll <hes> from the the show you know like a like a little quick <hes> overview of of the new program and she doesn't she looks like a model. <hes> i think <hes> t to me fabio and you folks at watch bobby live <hes> the bottom line is i think it's a great idea racing wives and and of course she she's one of the stars and she's a loves racing jumped from a racing family. I'm not going to be really interesting to see <hes> how the show does and how <hes> she does. That's premier network and and john is our contact there and occasionally he'll call and say you know i have someone who would like to call in show and and to get recognition and of course to try to promote that series and i don't think it needs much promotion because it's going to be really really interesting to see how that pans out. I said earlier oh and a- and i'm i'm sorry tripoli car clinic. Hannah will take your calls at triple eight two two seven twenty five forty six bobby like his car clinic is brought brought to you impart today by the car care council our partners. It's back to school time. Yes really the perfect opportunity for drivers to make sure sure the vehicles are safe and road ready and here's what you do you visit car care dot org for a number of fantastic tools tools including tips and starve schedules and videos and more go to car care dot org and you'll see what you should be doing to make sure that your car's kids safe in rhode riddy. That's pretty cool. Kid safe road ready it is is there such thing as kids safe. Well depending fabrio how you look at that what does get saved car care guys. You know kids safe what it means to say for the kids but another meeting the car say from the kids. Oh gosh so that's right. Hey i have broken a lot of cars cars in my life and i'm not talking about professional career of repairing a love broker my share there as well but i've broken a lot of racing engines in the <hes> in the seventies we ran a rear engine dragster and i built a half stroke or him before twenty six and had five hundred cubic inches inches and i built that same iteration <hes> with modifications of course forty times over a period of <hes> <hes> <music> i'd say three years forty different iterations and of course that's what happens when you're trying to push an engine to the limit and then whatever the weakest part is weakest link breaks and speaking of the weakest link remember the the head of television show the weakest link. I never did like that program. The host is the one. I never did care for yeah. Well you laugh so obviously yeah who was that you remember her name goodbye. She said what the weakest link goodbye yeah. We'll read by okay so so we'll we'll. We'll never say that to a car. Goodbye we have had we have had callers call in yeah well of malia my car's doing yada yada yada and so far put a sensor and a and a a a three monte gasket and a p._c. Hose and new plugs logs or what have you and i still got the problem is what sound like west annoys rear end. Excuse me you've been under the hood in the noises in the differential well yeah but i just thought i start. I start there okay so i'm i'm having fun here but that's that's not too far from just like just like the the the tracey called with had the the petroleum product that was added her first mistake with whoever put that fluid in there and and then if you say she had four shops four shops would no no i went to an independent of friend i probably her friend who put the petroleum and just for for you know folks brake fluid will not work injured oil petroleum no nothing with petroleum products which will work in a brake system because the it will swell the rubber and to that end now very interesting here. You've heard me and other companies basov. Stop leak non-nato case. He'll hear radiate. I'm talking about <hes> transmission. Stop leak and and those sorts of things and there there are transmission transmission. Stop leaks on the market and how do they work. They work the same way. They work the same way that petroleum. I am works in a brake system that swells the rubber. The problem is if you could add a two milliliters <music> of oil to the brake system. Take back never do that. Okay if you if you knew how how much in a transmission seal it was leaking or an engine seal that that was leaking and you knew just how much swelling product doc chemical you could add to swell the sealed without going too far then you can have a stop leak and that's what that's the chemical that is in engine oil. Stop leaks and let me tell you what it is. It's called napa thick oil napa. Thick nepotistic is naphtha. What snap it's a solvent show. If you took a rubber ring that was the size of a quarter and the coil oil of the ring was one hundred thousand say in one hundred thousands is sixty. Thousands is about the size of number two pencil the okay that the lead bad so you got a rubber ring like a rubber band. That's what draws transmissions rubber bands literally rings so if you drop that ring into napa napa let us sit overnight tomorrow. It'd be blown up the i don't mean blown up like explosion. It would be swollen and it would grow twice its size. It still be the size of a quarter except that the <hes> the number two pencil sides now would be the size of a an ink pen. <hes> you know the filler of an ink pen you see the <hes> the picture i'm trying to paint so so if you knew do and this is where the trick comes in for those companies make stop leaks for transmissions. If you knew how much to add then you could do a partial spread or a partial swell of the seals. That's how this stuff works. So usual is is that is that good long-term <hes> what usually usually those products are used on cars that aren't worth what the the price of the repair would be. I mean you've got a car this two hundred fifty thousand miles and it's fifteen years old and and it's it's used up. You've driven the new off the automobile and it's got a transmission leak on. Unfortunately it's the front seal of the transmission which means you gotta. Pull the transmission show when you pull the transmission pull the front pop and i mean there's now how far do you go and and <hes> and then in the process of the shop removing moving transmission they're gonna find other weak points like the mount because it's going to be worn out as well because cars hold an engine mounts are are short-lived short-lived anyway because they're isolators rubber isolators otherwise you you would feel a gritty vibration in your in your car. In fact today's engine mounts have jelly 'em or a thick gooey molasses type their rubber but they have this jelly and that access the shock absorber so it's like a little lily pad floats within the engine so the engine can shake much won't and you say oh. This is really a smooth of car you get an alexis and you say wow. You can't even feel as engine running yeah that's because it used jail field. <hes> motor mounts anyway so back to the ethnic oil the nepotistic. The naphtha will swell the seal just enough to help. Stop the leak and you can. I used that on a car though that those stop leaks on cars that aren't worth the price repair and to that end. That's a product that <hes> with regard lard nothing do with transmissions cooling system the case seal product that we talk about that i endorse does have within it a ceramic and it doesn't swell and he seals it uses a ceramic product that restricts the flow of out the whole whatever that whole is whether it's in the head it gets a block or or a radiator and that case he'll specifically designed so that when it reaches temperature and it sees the difference princeton temperature it clogs that whole but it's so in the engine it flows freely when there's a problem with leak it seals the league. It's really white coat this case. He'll d could find that moore k._t._e._l. Dot com another hour coming up. I'll be ready to share more information. Don't always is bobby like us. 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Should america be run by trader. Joe's among the many things that makes trader joe's an unusual company is that they turn down pretty much all media requests so so as you'll hear in this episode we never did get to interview. Any current trader joe's personnel but after the episode ran we did get a letter from the firm c._e._o. Joe dan bane in your latest freakonomics radio podcast. He wrote you pose the question. Should america be run by trader. Joe's we are pretty sure. Such such work would likely require a coat and tie. We lake hawaiian shirts so we will pass. Thanks so you'll hear from any current trader joe's personnel. I knelt in this rebroadcast either. Hope you enjoy it nonetheless <music>. Let's play shark tank today. You're the investors shark tank. If you don't know is the t._v. Show where people pitch business ideas to famous investors you might be he mark cuban or mr wonderful. You're trying to side. Would you invest and that is michael roberto. He's a business professor at bryant university formerly of the harvard business school. There's one lecture. He likes to start by giving his students. This fictional shark tank pitch. I'd like to open a new kind of grocery store. We're not gonna and a half any branded items. It's all going to be private label. We're going to have a no television advertising and no social media whatsoever. We're never going to have anything on sale. We're not going to accept coupons. We'll have no loyalty card. We won't have a circular that appears in the sunday newspaper. We'll have no self checkout we won't have i'm wide aisles or big parking lots. <hes> would you invest in my company. And of course you're supposed to think there is no way i'd invest in that company. That sounds like the stupidest company ever and of course get a lot of consternation. That's when roberto reveals that not only does such grocery store already exist but they're crushing the competition there at the top by a wide wide margin the sales per square footage estimates are unbelievable means three and four times better than some of the leading leading players in the industry so it sounds like customers love this place but you might think a store like this would be brutal to work for and yet. It's ranked among the hundred best american american companies to work for him. So what's it called trader. Joe's trader joe's trader. Joe's trader joe's jazz. I do love trader. Joe's there is a good chance you have never shopped at a trader. Joe's maybe never even heard of it. It's got fewer than five hundred stores first. The big chains like kroger and albertsons have well over two thousand walmart sells groceries and more than four thousand stores and as michael roberto told told us trader. Joe's doesn't advertise or do a lot of things. The typical grocery store does that typical grocery store has skew count. <hes> skews stands for stock keeping unit. It's a number of different items carry store. What's grocery store. Supermarket might have thirty five thousand skews a tremendous selection of variety you go to trader asia and they only have say three thousand stock keeping units and the typical trader joe's grocery business is famous for low profit margins lots of competition shen and lately an even bigger problem for the first time in history. American consumers are spending more money in restaurants and bars than in grocery stores. Traderjoes seems to be bucking this downward trend. It doesn't just have customers. It has fans the first thing i do when i know i'm going somewhere is get on the internet and find where the closest traderjoes. It's never been easy to run a grocery chain trader. Joe's makes it look easy and weirdly fun. I don't walk into trader. Joe's with a strong to do list. It's not a chore when i walk into trader joe's it's. It's a variety seeking exercise. So how do they do it. That's the question will try to answer today. A question made more difficult by the fact that trader joe's was is a fairly secretive company. I think that some of the secrecy is probably due to who owns them so we put on our freakonomics goggles in an attempt. I'm to reverse engineer. The secrets of trader joe's which it turns out are incredibly free. Comical things like choice architecture decision in theory things like nudging and an embrace of experimentation in fact if freakonomics were grocery store. It might be a trader joe's news or at least try to be. It's like a real life case study of behavioral economics at work so here's the big question if trader joe's is really so oh good should their philosophy applied elsewhere to trader. Joe's can't believe i'm going to say this but should trader joe's be running. America work it from stitcher and governor productions. This is freakonomics radio. The podcast hot cast that explores the hidden side of everything. Here's your host stephen dubner and i. I got interested in trader. Joe's about ten years ago never been to one of their stores but i had a general impression cheap and cheerful relatively laid it back and sort of groovy for grocery store. Apparently reflection of its surface california roots also not aggressively health conscious but leaning in in that direction and then i read wall street journal article about german grocery chain called aldi that was ramping up its u._s. Expansion all the is a super cheap super generic grocery store more than ninety percent of its products were house brands and it was beating even walmart on price. The article said the audi chain had two new branches back in germany separately owned by two wealthy brothers named albrecht and that one of those branches also owned trader. Joe's i found on this fact surprising only because when i think of german business practices i don't think of a groovy earthy crunchy california surfer vibe but there it was i also learned that trader joe's stores were much smaller and typical supermarkets that they had their own way of doing things and the places without trader. Joe's often inserted petitions to bring one to their town. It was a sort of loony devotion usually reserved for sports teams or your favorite band. Kind of grocery. Store has a following like that and then when i learned that trader joe's out sells all other grocery stores per square foot. I really started paying attention. Then one opened up near my office here in new york started shopping there and for the most part loving. I realize it's not for everyone in fact predator strategy is trying not to be for everyone but i did want to know the secrets to their success reached out to the trader joe's headquarters in monrovia california and we're politely lately told to get lost as we mentioned earlier. The company is known for its secrecy the two brothers who founded all north and south in germany. You know we'll have a record of that michael roberto again that was kind of the family heritage of early being pretty secretive about their business operations really they weren't even you couldn't even find photos of them like on the internet or net for years. You know i mean they were very secretive. It's a strange combination affirmed prides itself on user-friendliness while also keeping its distance which means is that a lot of what's known about comes from industry analysts and other secondary sources blitz start here in the very beginning. There really was a joe. Oh behind trader joe's joe colom. He opened the first store in nineteen sixty seven in pasadena california. He went with a south seas theme beach kaz hawaiian shirts calling employees captains and crew members in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine colom sold the chain to one of the secretive albrecht bricked brothers feel feel albrecht was recluse. Perhaps it was said because he had once been kidnapped and held for ransom for seventeen days as in germany albrecht died in two thousand ten betray joe's remains notoriously press shy. It's also a privately held company so so no earnings calls with investment analysts no public proclamations of any sort really about how it does business and so to figure out how it works. We'll rely on a few people who've spent a lot of time thinking about trader joe's including the business school professor michael roberto whom you've already met correct it also the columbia business school professor's sheena anger whose research specialty is particularly relevant here. I've been studying choice. Why do we want want choice. What are the things that affect how in what we choose and what are some things we can do to improve our choice making abilities. We'll also talk to a trader joe's superfan. My name is kirk serbia. I reside in seward alaska seward by the way does not have a trader joe's nor does the state of alaska esca the closest store from disarming his house is two thousand two hundred ninety five miles away by car in bellingham washington to serbia is the guy who we heard earlier earlier. Say this the first thing i do when i know i'm going somewhere is get on the internet and find were the closest trader joe's is and we'll hear from a spy in the house of if trader joe's a former advertising executive named mark gardener who became obsessed with the chain and i had this thought like you know what if i just went and work there. What would i learn about this company in what gardner learned about the company. Is it just about everything trader. Joe's does outside of exchanging food for money is unorthodox for modern grocery store. There's as a lot to talk about the products of course the economics of their business model. They're very homemade. Do it yourself aesthetic including the hand painted murals that reflect the neighborhood of every store but let's start with one of the first things i noticed when i started shopping there the employees yes they are friendly and unhelpful and enthusiastic cheerios what they want employees who have sampled the product who know the product who can say have you tried this wine or that cheese but what really caught my eye was the sheer number of employees. There are so many of them. If you go in during slow time you can easily be outnumbered by employees louise in their t. j. t. shirts and hawaiian prints. One reason is that rather than stocking shelves overnight like most grocery stores trader. Joe's stocks them during during business hours. Why is mark gardener learned when he went to work there. The priority is to maximize customer interaction so they they would tell us. They're going to be looking for customers who seem like they can't find something that they want or just curious about something. You're gonna initiate conversations with these people and that we want you to be friendly. We want you to be chatty. We want you to be empathetic and more than anything else. We want you to do what it takes to make. Customers feel appreciated and wanted so that explains why there's so many employees in the aisles but they're also a ton. One of employees staffing the checkout on one level. This makes sense makes the long checkout line move fast and checkout after all is where a store takes the customers money lesson number one in sales. Don't make it hard for people to give you their money but trader joe's also has employees directing directing traffic at the checkout line one telling you which registered to go to one pulling out of the big q and into the final q. and one or two to holding up handmade signs marking the middle of the queue and the beginning. That's three or four employees do the job that most stores us zero employees as to do or maybe they use some software trader. Joe's seems to be aggressively low tech no self checkout aisles no online ordering and pick up no customer loyalty programs and apparently trader joe's gathers no significant data on customers at all in the modern business world this this is heresy. If you shop at whole foods which is owned by amazon you can be sure the company has an algorithm target on your back traderjoes traderjoes. Meanwhile really didn't matter if it was a little old lady that was looking for one five dollar bottle of wine and if the wine shipment had just come in the back and i would go and look and look through one hundred different cases and see if i could find one that she wanted and get her that one bottle of wine. If if i spent fifteen minutes doing that and that made that customer really happy then the managers were happy and the store was happy so this is a riddle there's a company that doesn't harnessed big data and doesn't generally seem to embrace a lot of technology it employs a lot of real live people and <music>. He's them above the industry standard as of two thousand and thirteen fulltime trader. Joe's crew members made about fifty thousand dollars a year while captains made more than one hundred thousand rosen also with better than average benefits but this is also a company that sells its products at very low prices according to one of those investigations comparing airing a basket of items at a bunch of different grocery stores. This one was done in two thousand sixteen by the marketwatch website in the san francisco bay area trader. Joe's was easily the the cheapest compared to safeway target and whole foods was thirty two percent cheaper than whole foods so how on earth can trader joe's as michael roberto told us taking the most revenue per square foot in the industry there at the top wide wide margin a two thousand twelve analysis estimated that trader trader joe's sells just over two thousand dollars of groceries per square foot wholefoods about twelve hundred dollars walmart six hundred dollars <music>. How is this happening. We should probably start with the products at trader joe's sells here. Let me read off some of what they say are the most popular items spatchcock lemon rosemary chicken and carne asada authentic kohlrabi salad blend and cold pressed macho green tea lemonade see soul and turban sugar chocolate almonds and go to jong almonds peanut butter filled pretzels and five seed in bars from the freezer section chicken tikka masala and gluten free cheese pizza with the cauliflower crust. These are the sort of foods that laid up instagram accounts. It's facebook pages that inspire fanatical devotion even among people who don't have a trader joe's within twenty three hundred miles like kirk serbia <unk> who works as a facilities manager for the national park service in alaska. Whenever i leave the state i usually by a couple of hundred dollars worth of goods and i have an extra suitcase or a duffel bag with me in my luggage and his duffel bag have been all over. I've been i know to some in portland oregon. <hes> reno nevada all over southern california. There's a number of them. My wife is from kentucky chucky and so we've been to they have one in louisville now as well as indianapolis <hes> i go to d._c. You about once a year for work and love to go to the trader joe's and georgetown. What is it about about trader. Joe's foods that create such a lust. Let's put aside for a moment. The question of how good their food is especially since taste is subjective at least least to some degree but there are a few things to say about how trader joe's is at least different from a typical grocery store. I there is a sense of globetrotting adventure incher masala the carne asada goto jong almonds. That's why sheena anger thinks of shopping there as variety exercise. Let's see what kind of candy bars they have. They usually have kucan. Let's see what kind of deals they might have on wines or cheeses or they're prepared foods. It's sections kind of cool. What might they have that could add some more variety to the house. They also offer rather unsubtle blend of healthy or at least healthy not seeming and hedonistic. Yes you can buy kohlrabi salad and cauliflower cress pizza but you've also got your peanut butter filled l. pretzels and seesaw and turbo sugar chocolate almonds speaking of which turban nado sugar also known as natural brown sugar. There's still sugar. Why add the turban auto. I have a few guesses one to say. You're just adding sugar to your already. Chocolate covered almonds doesn't sound very healthy but turban. Nado sugar intriguing possibly even sophisticated additionally trader. Joe's seems to understand what everyone in sales understands especially real estate agents adjectives are inexpensive and often useful especially when the actual virtues are limited. A charming house is often in fact small house. Trader traderjoes reportedly puts a great deal of effort into scouting sourcing and producing food that their customers truly love but they also pay a lot of attention to package. I design and descriptive salesmanship their marketing director is called director of words and phrases and clauses they publish an old fashioned newsprint bulletin the fearless flyer with indepth descriptions of new products when you walk into a trader joe's there's a playful vibe hip as if to say hey you're just buying food. Food is delicious so enjoy yourself is also an artsy vibe. A writer lee five more so oddly enough than in a typical bookstore. These details is casual. They might seem would also appear to be strategic. Pick in two thousand eleven interview with the l. a. times joe colom said that when he started trader joe's in the nineteen sixties he was inspired by an article he he read in scientific american 'bout huge spike in americans attending college. I felt this newly educated. Class of people would want something different. He recalled recalled and that was the genesis of trader. Joe's why did he choose pasadena as the first store location because he said pasadena is the epitome of a well educated town trader. Joe's is for over educated an underpaid people for all the classical musicians museum curator's and end <hes> journalists. He said this suggests that from the very beginning trader joe's understood cream skimming targeting a certain kind of customer and leading the rest slide by as for the underpaid part of colognes occasion that would appear to be outdated and analysis by time magazine gene found that as of two thousand fifteen trader joe's stores were located in counties with higher household median income than any other grocery chain including whole foods roots and about ten thousand dollars higher than u._s. median income but and this seems to be another key component of trader joe's success. They also value for galaxy. You is michael roberto found the usually set up shop in the cheaper parts of the expensive areas frankly in many cases there in sort of old strip malls so they've saved money money on the real estate. The real estate firm zillow found that homes near trader joe's stores appreciate more quickly than homes in the city as a whole concluding that either trader joe's is really good at picking areas that are on the rise or that. They are in part causing the rise. So how about a new store for in seward alaska that is kirk discern mus- dream so i started facebook page called bring trader joe's to alaska asca. This was in two thousand twelve. I thought man these guys. Maybe they just don't know what they're missing yet. <hes> if i can create this facebook page and i can get people around the state to start liking it and sending trader joe's an email to say hey. We would really to see your store here. Then maybe trader joe's will will actually listen to us so after one of his out of town trader joe's shopping binges when i come home with a suitcase full i like to throw it on the kitchen table and take a picture of it and put it out there hopefully to motivate people to send that email to trader joe's and let them know where we're out here. His facebook with page got some traction about twelve hundred likes. I would say most of my friends in seward are aware that this is something that i would like to see happen unless you think to. Serbia is one of those guys who makes a facebook page for everything. No some of my friends might say them fairly politically active of but <hes> you know i honestly i can't think of any other store that i might think to start a page to bring up here. Seward alaska does have a relatively high median household income but the population is a problem fewer than three thousand people to serbia concedes that anchorage a few hours away would be more sensible safe for the first trader joe's in alaska and he'd happily make the drive. He just really wants a trader. Joe's every time i go to trader joe's and the lower forty-eight they always look excite ways at me when i when i'm getting two to three hundred dollars worth of goods but <hes> i tell them you know it's because we live in alaska and we can't get you guys come up here and since i started this page in two thousand twelve and they've never responded to a single email. It seems a little unlikely but hopefully hopefully they're gonna listen to this interview and then my percentage will go up coming up after the break. We'll get into to the economic details of trader. 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Wise even has a multi-currency account that lets you hold over forty currencies and convert them when you like test them out for free at transfer the answer wise dot com slash freakonomics or download the app today and of all the mysteries concerning the success of trader. Joe's here's what strikes me as the most interesting one their stores as we've learned are generally quite small small roughly a third the size of typical supermarket michael roberto again. We're all acclimated to every other supermarket looks the same and has has thirty five thousand items. It has seven million varieties of toothpaste in tomato sauce. Every other player has all those things betray joe's they only have say three thousand rosenstock keeping units in the typical trader joe's four thousand most in one of their larger stores moreover as we've learned trader. Joe's prices are relatively low. Oh and yet they also take in much higher revenues and stores that have more variety and more expensive items so how remember number trader joe's doesn't sell a lot of brand name groceries. Roughly eighty percent of their products are private label items also known as store brands with that means trader joseph mitigated the power the suppliers might have over them so while they're not nearly as biggest krogers and they can get great purchasing power because they're condensing all they're buying tomato tomato sauce to one vendor for a very limited number of items and when you're selling something that you also manufacture or at least source directly you obviously stand make more money than if you're buying from a middleman that said even storebrand products need taste good judging from i'm the chain's success they do in fact some trader joe's branded items may taste identical to brand name foods why because it appears all right then tickle an investigation by the food website eater using freedom of information act requests found that many trader later joe's items are in fact manufactured by the same companies that make the brand name versions of products that you can buy many other grocery stores usually for significantly more money for instance. Those trader joe's pita chips with sea salt. They appear to be exactly the same as stacy's simply naked pita chips trader joe's gluten free chocolate chip cookies according to the investigation are quote nearly identical in taste packaging and ingredients to tate's bake shop cookies. There's nothing wrong with this. It's hardly unusual for brand name manufacturers to run a side business selling private labels but most places that sell a lot of house brands are seen as downmarket discounters not upmarket superstars like trader joe's so why are they different front. Some of the credit must go to the clever packaging and the artful product descriptions but to get to the real secret of trader. Joe's when i think might be the single biggest reason for its success. You have to go back to sheena anger. I have been at the columbia business goals since nineteen ninety eight and i started to study choice way back in nineteen ninety angers p._h._d. Is in social psychology as an undergrad. She double majored in psychology and economics. She was born in toronto to parents who immigrated from india her background she she believes gave her a different perspective on decision-making when she started working in the field and i got very interested in the kinds of questions that we wouldn't have ordinarily early asked like well to all cultures see choice in the same way. We had assumed that it was an eight. We had assumed that everybody saw it. The same winded was somehow universal and i i think because i was an asian american. I didn't see it as that obvious. She wanted to explore this question with kids from different backgrounds. Her theory was asian american kids in white. American kids might think differently about choice before comparing the two groups she she wanted to establish a baseline confirm that for the white kids choice indeed had a positive effect. This baseline experiment turned out to be pretty interesting on its own. Here's how it worked. She brought a bunch of three year olds. One by one into a roomful of toys half of them were allowed to choose any toy and they could switch as they pleased the other half would be given just one toy with no option to switch. I started by looking eh white american kids because i had to first show that i'm capable of actually replicating what prior scientists would say what prior scientists would say it had been saying for decades is is that choice is motivating that having choice or even the illusion of choice is associated with increased satisfaction and feeling more control control over your life therefore the kids who could choose their toy should be happier for having the options in more likely to play longer. These ideas about route choice were prominent not just in psychology they were baked into the foundation of economic thinking at the time moore choice is almost always better than less choice but when i first started her study and brought in the kids who could choose from an entire room full of toys the white kids would come in and they would look at all these toys and stare outside the window and then when i would just give them legos. There were really happy. They're playing and i was like wait at this goes against what i'm supposed to find something wrong here so anger went back and examined some of those earlier studies about choice and decision making she realized that when those researchers described giving people lots of choice in reality that meant something like two to six options not a roomful oh like she had tried so anger ran different study this time limiting the number of choices and now she confirmed what her predecessors had found but she kept thinking about what happened in that first study with the room full of toys. Why were they staring out the window. I don't get it. I gave them really really cool toys. I gave the moldova's modern toys at the same time. I was going to this upscale grocery store. The store is called drinkers market. It's a northern california institution i- anger was at stanford at the time to they had like two hundred and fifty different kinds of mustards and vinegars and mayonnaise and and five hundred different kinds of fruits and vegetables and one hundred different kinds of olive oil. Oh my god it was amazing and i would go to all these little tasting sessions and try out like ten different kinds of vinegar and i also than thought to myself well. How come you never by any of those things you taste and i then went into the store manager and i asked him whether his model of offering people all this choice was working now he said it did and he pointed to the traffic and restored did have a lot of traffic but it was still an empirical question. Was it helping or was it not so angered designed an experiment at dreyer's to answer the question she set up tasting booth for jams and she alternated the choice set. Sometimes booth would feature six different jams and sometimes i'm twenty four and we looked at two things first we looked at in which case did more people stopped the sample some jam and we found that more people stopped when they were twenty for on display so sixty percent stopped when they were twenty four on display versus when there were six on display only forty percent of the people stopped and then when people stopped we gave everybody a coupon giving them one dollar off if they bought a jar of jam and in the back of the coupon was a code that told us if they saw six versus assist twenty four now what we found was that of the people who stopped when there were twenty four on display only three percent can't of those coupons were redeemed whereas of the people who stopped when there were six on display thirty percent of the coupons were redeemed interesting a larger choice set generates more interest the smaller choice set set generates more action cina angers jammed study very simple but very powerful would go on to become one of the most famous studies in decision science ryan's because it illustrates a lot of us feel when we enter for instance gigantic supermarket with the finding illustrated. We said we want more choice. Presumably because of all the -tunities provides us but when it comes down to making a choice we don't want that choice to be too hard or too conflict ridden. We're too burdensome. Anger followed up her jam study with a look at employee participation in retirement savings plans and essentially what we found and was that the plans that offered their employees more options you saw real decrease in participation rates so if you had a plan that offered people people less than five options <hes> the likelihood to participate was roughly around seventy five percent and by the time you got two plans that offered people around <music> sixty options now participation rates had dropped below sixty percent. This phenomenon has come to be called the paradox of choice <music> but anger doesn't think that's quite right. It's not that more choices always worse than that. Less is always better she or visit choice is both limiting limiting and a powerful tool. Every context is different. You can imagine that a huge choice set is particularly welcome in the digital realm where you can search for exactly what you want with a few key strokes assuming that is you know what you want but in the analog world in the world of a grocery store or for instance the size of choice set matters not just because of the cost of real estate and transportation storage and labor to stock the shelves els but because of how we people make decisions envision a shelf in a typical supermarket is seven million varieties a toothpaste in tomato sauce awesome and a trader joe's shelf. It doesn't overwhelm me. It usually gives me just a few choices per domain and having just a few choices per per domain is more likely to lead to action imagine yourself standing in an aisle and trader. Joe's you come across their five seed almond in bars and your lizard brain says well there are no foresee domin bars or six seed in bars. I don't even know why i need seeds in my almond in bars but sure i think i'll get some of those trader. Joe's understands lessons more. It understands to use a word of the moment went curation. They don't overwhelm you with choice. Which is why you're more willing to examine each novel choice. There is a story probably not true about michelangelo. Someone's supposedly asked him how difficult it had been to sculpt his famous david and he said it's easy just chip away the stone. That doesn't look like david. I am not saying trader. Joe's is quite on michelangelo's level but you get the the idea. There is great value in clearing away the clutter which is one reason sheena. Anger personally loves shopping at traderjoes. It doesn't give me the boring stuff right. It keeps me excited because i want to see what they have. And what do they have. That might get me thinking about something. I don't ordinarily ordinary think about so. They also maintain the mystery of novelty for me. Novelty is also a powerful tool in sales and this to trader joe's understands dan's. It is famous for constantly introducing new products experimenting with them really which means old products have to go. Maybe they'll come back. Maybe maybe they won't this strategy would appear to be risky normally in a typical grocery store. If the item that you typically bought isn't there you're really pest right. You're matt michael roberto again it trader. Joe's customers have come to understand that that's part of the trade off. You might see your peach mango salsa disappear but they'll be something new to try bri- that you can offer at your next cocktail party and while people with anger notes this strategy also gives every trip to trader joe's a sense of treasure hunt but that our appetite for novelty is domain specific. I deliberately go into that venue that venue being trader joe's because i wanna learn about some choices. I'm trying to update my brain on choices but when i go into my coffee shop shop in the morning i do not engage in any act of updating. I don't wanna know i walk into my coffee shop every morning. I don't even say eh anything. They just bring me out exactly what they bring me every other day and it's made exactly the same and i have no interest in in engaging in any kind of variety seeking and discover trader joe's totally by accident. That's mark gardener again. The former advertising executive who ended up working at traderjoes he was living in california at the time i i thought it was a local store but had kind of surf theme and i didn't know any better because they don't do any advertising. I only was exposed to it happen to be in my neighborhood. Then gardner moved to kansas city. Yes and that's when i really learned about trader joe's as a company because there was no trader joe's but there were these rumors of it. We're going to get a trader joe's and there was so much excitement. There's a facebook page called. Bring trader trader joe's to kansas city that has five thousand friends as a former advertising guy gardner was impressed. I think the number one thing that struck me about trader joe's is that they almost don't advertise at all. They don't market they. They have a pretty good website website now but but for years at a rudimentary website they had almost no social media presence they had almost no kind of public relations relations so they they didn't do a whole bunch of the things i had spent my entire working life thinking well. These are the things things that you do when you build a brand so that was really striking to me and <hes> i just had this thought like you know what if i went i and work there. What would i learn about this company. Gardner learned enough about the company by working there that he wrote a book about it called build a brand lake traderjoes. How did trader joe's respond well as you know. They're very very secretive company so they responded exactly the way i expected which was with utter silence. What initially impressed gardner was how trader joe's grown so much without spending all the money that most firms spend on marketing advertising and so on but what impressed him once he got inside working as a crew member for twelve dollars an hour was the company's culture culture well before the new kansas city store had opened on the first or second day of training a trader. Joe's executive came in to meet with the roughly fifty new hires including gardner the proceedings began with that standard horrifying requests to say your name and tell a story about yourself and i am not kidding eating you. Fifty hands went up. It was all these people are pick me. I want to be the first. I wanna start. I wanna tell you my story and i looked around around that that group of hands going up and mine was up to you know because i'm not because i love talking about myself but but most people don't on at least not to group of strangers and i thought wow this is not an ordinary group of people and what i realized pretty quickly is oh my god and this is what they hire for the higher for this kind of extroverted naturally chatty person as the training progressed. These guys really weren't too worried about teaching me how to operate a grocery store right. I mean there were some discussion about you. You know keeping the cold things cold and how important that is and and there was a little bit of discussion about this is how a cash register works about you know when you're bagging groceries groceries. This is how you do it. There was some discussion of process but actually there was a lot of discussion of trader joe's values. There was a tremendous amount of discussion. About how are you going to be with the customers and then once the store opened. No matter how crazy the store was no matter how much pressure there was to do something else if you were doing something for a custom her that trumped everything seeing how trader joe's encouraged its employees to interact with customers to partner up with them didn't just make sense to gardner it inspired him to wonder why this theoretically obvious approach is in fact quite rare consider. He says a standard trip to the department of motor vehicles but what happens when you go to the d._m._v. What happens is you stand on one side of a counter men search your opponent on the other side of the counter and it's as if you're in sort of a game or a sport where you're trying to get your were a license plate or a driver's license and they're gonna say oh yeah. You don't have a an up-to-date inspection certificate for your cars so get out of here right. It's like a volleyball game practically and it's and it's you against them now. What if you changed the rules and what have you said you guys are both on the same side. Your goal school is to get them that driver's license or that license plate that they need and so instead of just saying like you don't have the right inspection what what if you told them look. This is what's wrong with the certificate that you've got. It's either out of date or it's from the wrong state or whatever and this is where you would go to get the inspection that you need right and let me look at all your other things while i've got you here and if there's anything else you need. I'll tell you what you need so that the next next time you come. It's going to be a slam dunk for you. What if that was. What if it wasn't adversarial. What if you guys were both on the same side. What if you guys were both on the same side. It's good question. Don't you think look i'm not saying mark. Gardener's example is necessarily fair to the d._m._v. nor am i saying that trader joe's should when the nobel peace prize but it does strike me that a lot of interactions in the modern world are set up to be more competitive than they need and the benefits of collaboration are often undervalued. I think back to an interview we did with microsoft ceo saatchi and adela who's been reversing microsoft's microsoft's longstanding policy of treating tech rivals like google and apple as pure rivals and instead sometimes partnering with them nothing nothing can be taken for granted that there's no such thing as a perpetual motion machine what you have to do is be good at being able to refresh yourself at abc crucial times so if you had the choice would you have trader joes run the department of motor vehicles and maybe even i'm not serious here except maybe i am. Would you have them run. America released. Would you try to export some of their collaborative frugal. Don't take yourself so seriously methodologies michael roberto the business the school professor who's analyzed traderjoes warns. It's not so easy that it wouldn't even be easy for another grocery store to replicate. The trader joe's experience to do what they do. You can't just hire the people they hire. You have to emulate the private label strategy the real estate strategy the pricing the quirky culture culture and it's often the soft things not just the kind of people you hire but the way you train them and the culture you create then we can build a store that looks like a trader joe's but when we have people walk in can they have the same experience well. That's very hard to replicate fair enough and again. I don't mean to heap undue praise is on a grocery chain just because they found a way to make their appealing food cheap and treat people pretty well along the way but i will say this. 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Episode 13: The Plants & Flowers Edition

Inside Trader Joe's

22:05 min | 1 year ago

Episode 13: The Plants & Flowers Edition

"Here's a little sniff of what's coming up on this episode of inside trader Joe's. That's nothing that got me with trader Joe's. Honestly, you walk in the store. I think I usually town at least one out of five grocery carts flowers and plants in it. That's unusual for this industry mother's day. Here is phenomenal just to you know, get yourself a Cup of coffee a lawn chair and just watch people floral industry is changing so much. Well, there's a huge impact from cannabis. Really people say, oh, what's coming next new province, the Bloody Mary salsa, and it doesn't have people. There's no vodka the Bloody Mary. From the trader Joe's mothership in Monrovia, California. Let's go inside trader Joe's. I'm Tara Miller director of words and phrases and clauses. And I'm Matt Sloan the marketing product guy this episode is the plants and flowers addition. I wish this podcast were scratching sniff because we're talking about roses to half dill's lilacs orkets basil. But no worry. We'll post some pictures on our website and our Instagram and you can always stop by your neighborhood. Trader Joe's to see and smell the flowers in person. Here with us to talk about plants and flowers, we have Maggie. I have been in the floral industry since I was fourteen years old, I actually celebrated my fourteenth birthday on the Ellie flower market. My parents that I had a love of a flowers and decided to cultivate, at a young age to work. Basically could use of language there. I made my first thousand dollars what I was eleven making Christmas ornaments you. My dad would take them to work and sell them for me. And it became floral designer. I got my first job in a flower shop when I was fifteen and worked through the industry all of these years. So how did your love of flowers? Bring you the trader Joe's I had actually written. Trader Joe's a letter about seventeen years ago. And I explained exactly why thought they should hire me. I think you guys have an amazing customer base because I was one of the customers and I thought. I wrote the letter I never got an answer. And then an opportunity presented itself about three years ago for another grocery store chain. Someone had reached out to me and asked why I wouldn't want to go to work for that company. And I said, well, I don't wanna work for a company that can't quite decide. Do they want support floral as a category or not because most retailers don't florals kind of a secondary thought? And I wanted to go to work for a company that I felt was really committed to the program, and you walk in the door trader Joe's, and you know, they're committed to floral like no one else. So anyway, I told them not interested, and they said, well, what are you waiting for? And I'm holding out for trader Joe's that same person called me back a week later and said, you're never going to believe this. But trader Joe's just posted a position for category manager floral, and I pulled off the four or five freeway and started yelling. That's my job. I literally sat on the side of the freeway applied for the job. Send you guys a letter. Stop looking found me in my opinion. There's no industry that is more committed and harder working than the floral industry. It's not a huge profit base for most growers. They do it because they're generational. They've been doing it for so many years, and they love plants flowers. So I love the fact that we can bring in that tar customers, I expect a lot of integrity from our growers. I expect them to give us what we are asking for we want fresh quality best prices get it in and get it out. Really? If something can't sell in our stores within twenty four hours. It doesn't belong on our stores. And I think that that's been the key to our success. And why we have so many loyal plant and flower customers floral industry is changing so much today. Well, there's a huge impact from cannabis really the amount of cannabis that's being grown in the United States and Canada, which Canada potted plants supply, the majority of the eastern seaboard potted plants. Is this? We're talking about how we're talking about marijuana cannabis. So why is that I don't understand what's going to grow cannabis you need to grow it in a greenhouse the ideal growing grounds for cannabis is within greenhouse what industry has greenhouses. The floral industry. So the floral industry has lost a huge portion of growers in California. I mean, the landscape in the last ten years from people who used to be able to buy Gerber days. He's from outta carpenter California. There used to be five six growers up. They're down to two one in carpentry. And I believe one in San Diego the last two in California. So have all of those other grows onto cannabis Californian produces eighty percent of the flowers that are grown in the United States. We're getting to a point where the if you don't partner in a line with those growers. They're not gonna make it. I mean, it's tough industry. It's a tough business. We try to support local growers as much as we possibly can. But at the industry is definitely changing. I have to think that you know, whenever there's a new market opportunity of bunch of people throng to that. Rush into absolutely will be counteraction. I I believe so too. I do believe that everything that is old in the floral industry becomes new. If you give it time. It will come back. Baby's breath is a perfect example of that. When I was a kid. It was like a baby's breath carnations. And now some of our best performing skews are carnations baby's breath. Eucalyptus another one that has taken off who would have thought eucalyptus would be one of the most popular items in our deck of single varietals. I see a lot of people online saying that they buy you lift us from trader Joe's, and they hang it in their shower. Does that visual aspect of popular culture have an impact on this? I mean, if you see something like this is hot on Pinterest or Instagram to certain degree. It does. I mean, we did not buy this year that was on pilot plant, which is probably one of the most Instagram plants out there, if your plant person, you know, pilot is it has been referred to through history as the Chinese money plant. I didn't wanna go to big because I thought that's a very meat she market, and boy social media blew up people were freaking out because that plant you would buy it in a garden center for twenty thirty forty dollars, and we had it for eight ninety nine so social media blew up. Did we actually sell this? But there's also a part of our business is to give our customers different cool things wasn't like this top performing item. But it got people excited it meter customers. Happy to phrase that I'd like to unpack what is an opportunity by an opportunity by something that we can get a great by on. So to a certain degree. We do opportunity buys when something will present itself. But a lot of it is scheduled that did really, well, why don't we plan to do that again in six months, and it gives our regular customers from spice. We try to keep the section as fresh as we possibly can. I believe that most of our customers by for home consumption for individual consumption, which is very different. It's a much more kind of European approach to floral talk about that's more. If you go to Europe, and I it was driving from all in down into Germany driving through residential streets and every window you drive past their flowers and plants in the windows. Everybody plants on the windows in the United States. People kind of question. Do I wanna spend the money on this for myself? That's the thing that got me with trader Joe's, honestly. And one of the things I brought up in my letter is that the customers walk in the store. I think I usually count at least one out of five grocery carts flowers and plants in it. You don't see that in any other retailer? You don't see everyone walking around the store with plants and flowers. Three or four we're getting there. Well, and I think what happens is when you walk into trader Joe's, and you see that big bunch of flowers in it's like six or seven dollars. It doesn't feel like a luxury. It feels like you know, what I'm worth that. By that for myself, and it makes me feel good it'll brighten up my kitchen or it'll brighten up my office, and but when something is thirteen fourteen fifteen dollars at another greeter our goal is to make it when you walk by. You can't resist it because you're like, wow. That is an unbelievable price. I was just at a Super Bowl dinner, and my mother-in-law came up to me and said, hey, one of my friends was posting on Facebook that she had bought roses. A trader Joe's and that they were going onto weeks. And I said that makes me so happy. That's what our whole goal is to be able to give people that extreme value and to be able to have that lifestyle in your in particular, there seems to be a better appreciation for the the life cycle of plant so people like to see it start. Really small and growing up and then going through the blooming and then actually fading from bloom. Whereas here I feel like a lot of people. It's like I wanna see the flower now. So how do you talk with growers about that? It's interesting you ask that because I was just meeting with prior biggest bald supplier in the mid west. There's this particular style of bulb plants that you see in Europe where the balls are planted above soil, whereas in the United States the bolts plan to below soil, and I absolutely love the look it looks so natural. And it's just something about it. That is so cool. And like do you guys do that? And they said no because most retailers are too afraid to start the trend a lot of mass market companies. They're scared. They don't really understand the industry and the plant material itself. So they don't wanna be the one to step out and go I'm gonna make a commitment to do a bulb above soil that could blow up in your face, and, you know, have massive loss. I think for us. We're edgy enough to lead the trend. It's interesting when you go to Europe, and you talk to breeders and what they say about the US. Well, we don't send that into the US. They won't spend the money or they won't. Appreciate it for what it is. Like, you underestimate us people. You want us to mate us, and I just know from the growers that ideal with their like, you're really are the only one that will go out on a limb. And try something different everyone else wants to see how it performs and then they'll they'll jump in. And they'll do it. I joke about the pilot because I'm like everybody in the world's going to be growing pilot over the next year because they saw it at trader Joe's. Should come. There's a flower that we had in the store last year that I'm pretty sure we're bringing back this year. And I'm still not sure is it a tulip or is it a peony tulips? It's okay. So it's both. And and that's not something I'd seen anywhere else. I was really thinking about our double dozen tulip success that we had last year. I don't know summaries. Edges kinda hit me. I was like come to open he's ever referred to it as the Pini tulip because within the floral industry, it's been known as the Pini tool for for as long as I can remember so I decided to work with our suppliers and specifically do a double P tool up for this mother's day who says you can't have P and east for mother's day. And we'll see how it does. I think it's going to do really really well, I'm excited about that. They're beautiful. I- Tara, and Matt through the magic of podcast editing actually going to jump ahead a bit. And since that conversation with Maggie now, we're going to catch up with her in a different part of the country in Miami working with bookcase of liar. Very happy this mother's day when you think about a bouquet of flowers, it's more like a prepared dish in a restaurant than you might realize. There's a recipe and that recipe calls for specific ingredients that recipe calls for a focal point stem. Like the thing that really catches your attention. But it also calls for some filler stems. And some other accents them's check this out and see what maggie's going to do at this supplier because they're going to build a recipe that then is replicated over and over again Bill be perfect for mom's day. What do you think of that? But the together. Yeah. Either this or that red is such a an people don't understand like you want rigorous for Valentine's Day with produce three hundred sixty five days a year. Yes. But what is the grower with all of the right outside of pints day one mother's day. Everybody wants color because such a pretty color combination. Okay. So we got hot pink light pink to red roses one purple and one orange orange slash yellow. If you have to swap out, I think we're good. I think it looks really good. This is all right guys. I'm happy. We're done with Christmas. We don't thanksgiving got mothers day. We have Easter done. We have anything else coming up to look at. I think we're pretty good. I'll let you get back to the podcast take care everybody. Okay. Maggie. Thanks checking in with us. And we're so glad that you're doing work now. So that we're already for mom's day when it comes up. So one of the things that really sets trader Joe's apart when it comes to flowers, and plants is that we have crew members who are completely dedicated to making sure that the flower and plant selection in their stores reflects their neighborhood. And we're at the Glendale, California trader Joe's, and we're actually just outside of the trader Joe's, I'm here with Mickey crew member longtime remembered, and we're gonna talk about flowers, I love plant some flowers. I have you know, stay at home. Moms I have gardeners. I have local homeowners Glendale that come by by our plants talking about what great deal it is. They're going to you know, repot all of their plants in the front yard, or if it's orchid buyers that come in that they don't buy one or two we're talking box a case at a time. Why are they buying so many? Well, the price point is unbelievable. You can buy cymbidium in a basket for nineteen ninety nine you go to any of the other starting price point three. Thirty to forty dollars for a cymbidium in a basket. So what is it day? Like when you're wearing the floral hat. I'm thinking like the fruit have must be like Carmen Miranda's. This is a different hat. It's floral hat get here. It's usually about six in the morning. It's like I've got my Cup of coffee, and I'm ready to go. I've got three pallets staring at me. I've got empty buckets things on those three pallets of a has bucase 399 bouquets 599 bouquets nine ninety nine bouquets. I have are single stemmed variety. I have plants and I have our orchids. Would you go through that much stuff in a day? Yes, mother's day. Here is phenomenal just to, you know, get yourself a Cup of coffee a lawn chair and just watch people just you could it would be worth the ticket price. You mother. Glenn? There you go. That's hashtag. Yo, mama. So Matt the time has come. It is time the time has come. It's the time that everybody waits for when we talk about new products that are coming into the store in the coming weeks and months at that. I have one that. I'm really excited about it is called Neopolitan. Joe Joe's ice cream. You're familiar with the Neopolitan Joe's cookies all-too-familiar. Yes. And know what you're talking about. It's vanilla and strawberry ice cream and instead of chocolate ice cream. It has chocolate fudge pieces and dark chocolate swirl. And then it has pieces of Neopolitan. Joe Joe's cookies, thankfully, seasonal. So I won't be able to have it all year. But while I can have it. I'm looking forward to having it and that should be coming out. You know, a late spring early summer. Okay. I'm going to see your ice cream treat and raise. You another dessert treat, we have a moti cake mix moti is it's really a staple in Japanese cuisine. It's glutinous rice. It's a it's a type of rice short grain rice. That's pounded. And it becomes this. Weirdly, interesting wonderfully springy elastic. Thing and this cake mix is made with the same kind of rice material that Moshi like ammonia wrapped ice cream treat has made. But you actually bake it. And so it looks almost like you would be making a brownie. But the thing it self looks nothing like a brownie. It's lighter in color, and it has like a wonderful sort of rich buttery vanilla flavor. And it has this really, interestingly strange and wonderful texture. That's the Moshi cake mix. It's a little bit confusing because it is a gluten free cake mix, but it's made with glutinous rice. Yeah. It's the adjective form of the word. It's not talking about what it is. It's talking about describing what it's like. Right. So it's sticky and anyone looking for gluten free dessert this a really cool option. It's delicious. Okay. Moving into a different type of product protein pancake mix. You just add water and you make your pancakes. And there's like there's ten grams of protein in a serving of pancakes, I made it for my family. You know? Several times and everybody really liked it just tastes like a really good pancake. What else is coming to? Mark has been you know, on so many people's minds. It's the five rim. Bright yellow rise. Omb it looks like a tuber is route kind of thing. It looks almost like ginger it has its own very specific flavor. So many things with tumor have been popular. And we get a lot of requests for that. We have what's known as golden milk coming. Now. There's a whole future podcast that we might go into like why things should or shouldn't or can or can't be called milk anymore. But the product we have will actually be called tumorous ginger coconut beverage a bit of a prosaic name for sure, but it's basically golden milk. It's a non dairy version of this made with coconut milk that should be out pretty soon. One of those products that I find really interesting that's coming is the Bloody Mary salsa, and it doesn't have odd can people. There's no vodka and the Bloody Mary salsa, it's focused and built. On and around tomato. And it has a wonderful tomato flavor. And that tomato flavor gets amplified by celery. And then it's got some spiciness to go. I'm not a big drinker of bloody Marys, but I could eat a lot of this salsa. It's really tasty one of the most adorable packages. I've ever seen. At trader traderjoes is for they new patio potato chips. It's a really cute cute package. There's a barbecue chip see salt and vinegar chip a chip that is home style ketchup flavored. And they really do tastes like ketchup. It's kind of awesome. And a delicious deal. The first time you're working through the bag eating it. It takes some doing to figure out which ship is which flavor, and that's fun because it's a little bit of a guessing game. This is not something we're going to have in the store every day. So if you buy them, and you find yourself liking them, I do recommend that you go back and get some more because they're not going to be there forever. It's kind of a summer season special. Okay. What else the folks who are responsible for source? Coffee for us. They're really looking for these kinds of things that you just won't find in other places. We have this new organic coffee coming from Ethiopia. It's called organic Ethiopian p berry humvees Ella. Estate small lot coffee. It's from a a single estate in Ethiopia, and it is a specific type of being called a p berry computer is sort of of Potanin anomaly, right? So it's how the coffee cherries form and little seat within it and not even five percent of a given crop winds up being a p berry. So when you look at coffee beans, and they look like they're sort of split in the half. Usually there two halves make sense within each coffee cherry appear. Barry is a single seed or a single using the word being that's what we all say. But coffees the bean, but there's a single P berry being seed inside that coffee cherry. And and why would you do that? There are some that say that those people are is because of how they grow. Oh that they have a different concentration of flavor that they have some admittedly nuanced differences flavor wise, and I think is kind of fun. It's just that much more special to say, you know, this is, you know, the cream of the crop. If you will particular coffee has never been offered outside of ever before ever ever Ethiopia is often pointed to thought of as one of the birthplaces, if not the birthplace of coffee where you know, the apocryphal story at this point is there's a goat herder out wandering. And for some reason, his goats are particularly annoyingly energetic one afternoon because of an eating coffee. Annoying. Okay. Podcast listeners. We have a favor to ask we call. This inside trader Joe's, and we're hoping that there's a little bit of inside information that you'd like to know more about so ask us some questions. What do you wanna know? What is it about trader Joe's that you don't know? We are going to produce an episode that revolves around asking questions of the people who can make things happen here at trader traderjoes. 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Trader Joes Napa Oakville Cabernet Sauvignon 2018

The CheapWineFinder Podcast

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Trader Joes Napa Oakville Cabernet Sauvignon 2018

"And cheap wine fighter.com coming again with a kind of a fun one. Well, at least it was fun like adults playing until off the fires and Napa Valley half and all the tragedy and people lost their lives and grape Vineyards that have burned and raped Wineries and people lost their life's work off. But rather to be a downer when I dressed wine, this one is called the Trader Joe's Platinum Reserve Cabernet, Sauvignon, Oakville, Napa Valley 2018 lot 97 There have been a couple of bumper crops in Napa Valley Sonoma that area so there was Surplus and then the covid-19 off but these are wines and so to restaurants and for parties and none of that's going on right now. So there was a trip plus and there was going to be a great many wines that were going to be a prices. They usually never AR CNET and Trader Joe's was starting to show this was a velour the Palm Spring Mountain at Atlas Peak and there might be another one all Napa some Indian from a high-end subdivision small places. I think the Oak Grove that's where Screaming Eagle is front Screaming Eagles when it was 100 Point perfect lines themselves in the thousands of dollars and I figured out I'm going to have a 1490. I have one that off. Ghost videos of Vineyard within two miles of that place or or something like that. I don't know where the vineyard is. They don't tell you that when you're paying $49 for high-end. Well, I'll tell you about you all the details, you know with Cooperage what force the old came from who's arrived start with winemaker the history of the winery all and for the price of these things and when you don't offer you get cheaper, so I don't know if there's still going to be a a glut is just the last gasps Trader Joe's were you want to run out and find these small production wines? I think there was a little bit less than five thousand cases. There's twelve thousand twelve bottles off the case for each of these but which you know is a lot of wine, especially when it's a nationwide distribution. So, you know on a Thursday Supposed to go to continue there's resorting lions and in the works that are coming our way out of cheap price, but you know a lot of that, you know a big deal any more with the fires are happening there and you'll see the devastation and I know you know people lost their lives people of lost history things. They worked on forever. You know, I just saw a man who had 100,000 bottles in one of his buildings in the building burned burned out. It's just, you know, it's crazy drink to him. I'm going to do that. So I don't know if this is gonna be the last of the cheap wines from Napa Valley. They're coming up or what? But they're good the 1499. There's over those got a nose that is worth you just smelling it all the different Roma's going on in there is worth forty nine thousand. I mean you don't get that and just regular then there is a reason why these Appalachians are famous and this is a 2018. It's not a young age worthy. Why that's drink it now. Maybe you could put it away for a couple of years if you want to you know, but it doesn't need to you can drink it right now, but it tastes great. It's got a lot of flavor. It's got its Sleek doesn't have a lot of Weights medium weight on the palate. It's liquid has a ton of flavor. It's you know, it's just kind of flows money's nice deal II 1499. It kicks butt Trader Joe's says that it's if it were a retail branded. Did you have an air brand on it? What's so for about $30 and $30 Napa cabs are starting to really ride, you know that when it starts getting more expensive a lot of that is because of its more often. It's it's rarer line mean, there's not enough to go around you gotta pay to get them but you really hitting some really good wines when you get dirty on the upper end or you can go higher the 13 get you some good one. And and this is a good wine. Let me take a drink to all the people who've lost everything and hope they can rebuild I know insurance was great. But off that doesn't bring back all they lost and if you're looking for killer wines and one spend fourteen ninety-nine well, Trader Joe's Platinum oakville's rate. I'm going to try the other ones. I wasn't planning on trading the other ones, but this is good enough that I'm doing back and I'm going to try maybe the Spring Mountain. I don't think Spring Mountain key having a while. So yeah, it's good. Drink it up audio system. I'll talk to you later, bye-bye.

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Episode 8: 'Tis The Season

Inside Trader Joe's

23:51 min | 2 years ago

Episode 8: 'Tis The Season

"From the trader Joe's mothership in Monrovia, California. Let's go ho ho ho already. Yeah, I think it's time inside trader Joe's. I'm Tara Miller director of words and phrases and clauses, and I'm Matt Sloan, the marketing product guy. So whether it's Hanukkah, Christmas, Kwanzaa, festivus for the rest of us, the holidays are probably a big deal in your home and it certainly a big deal at trader Joe's really is. I mean, we are busy as ELS all year, putting together special seasonal product, and we're looking forward to sharing that process and some fun holiday ideas with you. So here's a taste of what's coming up on this holiday episode of inside trader Joe's this year. I think the the product that's really going to be amazing is the dog. Evan calendar comcan is a thing that just went out of control. One point we're up to eighty five products. We consider any feedback, good or bad, an incredible gift high. I am begging you the trader Joe's overlords to bring back the cedar Balsam. Candle. This holiday season, this product. Those are fantastic, dangerous, my prediction, those become an everyday product. The platinum wines are pretty much my favorite holiday item. Plenty to drink at traderjoes this year. Yeah. All right. I'll start. I'll introduce John and the ghost of holiday products past president future. So it's basically, you know, it's a trader Joe's Christmas, Carol. Humbug. Oh, that should come from man. Personify. We're here with John bass loan president of stores at traderjoes, happy holidays, John, happy, holidays, Tara. Thank you. Let's start with the past because it's in the past. What were some holiday products that you really enjoyed that we no longer carry? Yeah. Well, this usually always makes me kind of bitter to even think about. I'm really loved the peppermint. Judges ice cream ice cream isn't something that people usually think of when they start thinking of the holidays, but you know that product, I just loved the peppermint jobs, of course, and the chocolate covered penman Joe Joe's and all the different ways that we, we do those, but I was heartbroken when we decided to try some other kind of ice cream or do something differently. So I'm I'm still constantly talking to our frozen folks about maybe thinking about bringing that back sometime in the future. You know begging for it. I think it says a lot about trader Joe's that not even you can make that. Comeback. Time. Well, John, you know, thinking about ice cream thinking about a holiday ice cream while this isn't Heiferman Joe, Joe ice cream. We do have for this upcoming two thousand eighteen holiday season. We've got a boost to Noel ice cream. It's that you will log thing that I've always loved, and we've always tried to figure out what to do with. So we made an ice cream out of it with it. So it's like custard ice cream a little bit of sort of a chocolate fudge ribbon. Going through that. I think there's a little bit of meringue pieces because they often make mushrooms or mushroom like decorations out of meringues on the booster. Noah log and then it's got pieces of chocolate cake in there that that's a great I'm sold. And the other item to another. Frozen dessert item just from last year that just reason just didn't catch on with customers was the the sticky toffee pudding. It looked kind of like a sticky blah, right? I feel like we've tried sticky toffee pudding a couple of times as a product and everyone who tries it thinks it's the greatest thing they've ever tasted conceptually it just didn't sound like some sounded too old fashioned or something, but man, that was fantastic. For me when I think of the the holidays at trader Joe's and Ben with trader Joe's for almost thirty years now and when it comes in and I finally have my first taste of Feffer news and the warmed up thing of the spiced apple cider. It just transports me immediately back twenty years in the past to the time when I lived in Tucson, and we may serve that at the botanical garden during their luminary festival thing like they have this really strong memory. So let's talk about the president at traitor traderjoes. The product that's really going to be amazing is the dog advent calendar or they. I'm trying to say it's the advent calendar for your dog ran up to get to because we have two dogs and every day they get a little treat. I'm really excited about the organic cold, pressed spice cider that's coming in. That's going to be in the refrigerator. Instead of, you know, in a big bottle on a shelf. I love the idea that I could just grab it and it's just single serve, and I can just drink it on the go. And it's really delicious. Really fresh tasting almost feels like it was kind of just pressed at the apple orchard, and I think it's a Fuji. Apple, some great returning. It's like our sipping chocolate, which is just so good. It's like the be all end all super-rich hot chocolate kind of thing. We have hot chocolate on a spoon that's like basically a chunk of chocolate with marshmallows and everything. On a spoon and you just hot milk, hot water, mix it in. We have some hot chocolate sticks that are kind of, I think of is like a classic Mexican or other South American countries format for hot chocolate. These sticks that are probably as good just to eat as they are to make hot chocolate. I'm looking forward to that stuff. I have kind of a top three of holiday products that we sell. The first is the are shelf stable, Tetra, Pak Turkey gravy. I can pretty much drink it right out of the carton in is so good, and it's such a great product and such a great value that that that is something that I always pick up during the holidays. Also, I'm very much drawn to our frozen appetizers section this time of year and like the Kaman bear in cranberry low bites that we sell. And also certainly bacon wrapped scallops, you know, I don't know why those aren't here all the time. That's another thing I'm kind of lobbying, but it's one of those products. When that last one is on the plate, you really find out how selfless people are. Not very very, and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna eat that last one. If nobody else is anyway. I also like to pretty much set up a tent and live in our cheese section during the holidays. I mean, there is not only the stuff that we carry all year round that you know you, you tend to buy more of during the holidays, but some of the stuff that we bring in the pumpkin spiced pumpkin seeds that we sell in the fall, and you kind of smash them up a little bit and roll some goat cheese in that and then serve it with a little Honey. And I can eat that pretty much for six weeks. All the food groups are represented. I think you're good. Oh, you have to. It's fantastic and with a little Honey, don't forget that. Okay. So let's move on to the future. We have a cheese that were slated to bring in for the winter holiday period. It's from the Normandy region in France. So that's north west France. Think of mount Saint Michelle that like Disneyland castle on the seaside. But this is Norman cheese, apple brandies mixed into the Kurds and they make a soft cheese than they washed the rind in an agent. And it's this incredible thing, and it's visually interesting to his cut like an orangish hue to the Rhine, it's called grain doors. I think I might have almost said that correctly, but I know what it is. It's delicious this this product, which I forgot was a holiday product when it just the top pretzels. Have you had those since since we tend to tasting like, did you try them at the meeting, the butter toffee pretzels? Yeah, those are fantastic, dangerous. My prediction. Those become an everyday product. Thanks, John. Thanks for having me. Coming back. So, well, why do people think of thanksgiving is just a meal at traderjoes. We've kind of made it a season. Let's see how many thanksgiving themed products we can come up with that. We that you'll find in our stores this this year. Okay. All right. Ready. Turkey and stuffing potato chips, Turkey pot pie. Stuffing potato chips, stuffing bread, stuffing rolls, Turkey pot, pie, bites, Turkey, stuffing on cruise. Oh, the Turkey gablers rap cranberry Turkey meatballs or the new persimmon friend relish spiced persimmon krumrie, Roman gravy grander difference. Everything else is just great. All right. I'm thankful. This is over. My name is Craig. I am a store captain of the trader Joe's in Louisville, Kentucky. Hi, this is Rita shepherdess captain from danville, California. Hi, this is Victor. I'm the captain of Charlotte, North Carolina tied. My name is Melissa offer. I'm the captain of trader Joe's store number seven, twenty five in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Hi, this is captain from Littleton, Colorado. My name is Courtney. I'm a proud store captain at the trader Joe's in Omaha, Nebraska on. Three days. Thank you for your support and thank you for letting us be a part of your neighborhood. I can set my calendar by at the end of August. The first Email start to come in when the pumpkin products being released. MARCY Koppelman is vice president of merchandising in our Monrovia office. So by the time you see a new product in your trader Joe's that merchandising team has worked really hard tirelessly on getting it just right pumpkin is a thing that just went out of control. It went out of control. I think we got up to eighty eight one where they went. We think we started, it caused it causes, I believe, because it and at one point we were up to eighty five products. So miracles really do happen during the holidays, but all this holiday product at trader Joe's now this time of year. Oh, that's no miracle. It's a lot of homework is starting with a concept. It is seeing that concept through it could be trying. Hundreds of variations. Their times we'll be, I'll think of a certain cookie, a pumpkin, the pumpkin, Joe Joe's. I think it was maybe take thirty six. It has too much. Pumpkin flavored doesn't have enough pumpkin flavor. What are we using for pumpkin flavor? It's too sweet. It's not Sweden enough, and it is looking at current trends for products. Like what are people looking for years ago was I don't want fat in my product now. It's I don't want sodium. I don't want sugar. I want lower sodium. I want higher protein. It's really following following the trends which are many times dictated by the diet fads. I think by the end of that whole tasting process, we were all kind of tired of tasting cookies, which sound who's tired of tasting cookies. Everybody loves tasting cookies. It's cookies. What I'm trying to say is we work really hard to get to the point where, oh, this is the right version of this cookie, and it took a long time. We taste retail, retail relentlessly. I don't how much weight I put on that month before the holidays where we are tasting every thirty minutes. It's back and forth with the with the supplier over and over again. Just ensuring that we have it exactly as we want it and then going back to make it even better how many specifically seasonal holiday products do we bring in to the stores? Tween hundred fifteen two hundred. Wow. Do you have favorite holiday properties? Yes. As soon as the the pumpkin Biscardi comes out, I've been known to maybe by ten buckets of those. To get me through the year. I like the peppermint Flims the almond kringle. The pumpkin bread mix spice, cider goes on and on. The list goes on. Okay. Let's head over to our customer relations department and talk with Nikki again. This'll be what the third time we've spoken with Nikki for the podcast and great thing about talking with Nikki is you always know that you'll get the answer. When you have a question, you give me too much credit Tara. Thank you. You're very welcome. You've got mail. I just proved how old I am. I I know I am constantly amazed at how prepared people want to be for the holidays. Like it seems like the moment you clean up the dishes from thanksgiving. People are wondering like what they're going to have for the next thanksgiving. Our customers are very prepared. They want to see their old favorites return. And so a lot of their preparation sort of starts and ends with having certain holiday products available. So they wanna know now. So I want to read this first one b because this one really resonated with me because this kind of thing happens in my household. Hello, we'll trader Joe's be carrying the warm vanilla body butter this holiday season as last year. It's wonderful, and I'm coveting my last jar from my purchases from 2017. So that that resonates with you, how do you have a jar left? This is what we do in my house with the holiday. Products. We buy a whole bunch of the things that we love, and we try to make them last throughout the year. I think all of our customers are sort of chomping at the bit to get their hands on the warm vanilla body butter, and the good news is it's coming back this year. So I was able to let this customer know that she'll be able to pick up or stock up in your case. Okay. So this just in from someone looking to be prepared for the holiday season, and I'm just going to read the note. Hi, I am begging you the trader Joe's overlords to bring back the cedar Balsam candle. This holiday season. My mom bought me one is a present last year and it may be my favorite candle sent of all time. I'm down to the last couple of burns, please please. Please consider bringing it back this year all the best Jesse where ready where n stock were ready to ship to warehouses. So Jesse and the rest of our customers will have to wait no longer than November. And I hope that she stocks up properly so that she can burn with complete abandoned. Scented candle speaking. When you're listening to this, we've probably just about sold out of our fall season, Honey crisp apple candle. I'm still amazed at how popular that was. The good news is, in addition to that cedar Balsam candle. We've got a gingerbread candle coming out soon too. And I, I think people are going to be really excited by this. They can just burn away. So I'm going to read, we love this t- having just finished our last box. Are you planning on bringing it back this holiday season, please say, yes. How do I know which Teather after. It's actually on the subject line. And this customer for those of you who can't see the subject line, it's vanilla and cinnamon black tea. It's always difficult to deliver bad news especially during the holiday season. And especially when you're talking about t right and the bad news is it just didn't perform year after year the way we'd hoped. And so unfortunately, we're not offering it in our holiday t- selection this year. Hopefully we'll have something that will be. We have some great and new exciting teas coming out. Okay. And this from someone interested in table scape apparently, and I quote last fall, you carried these beautiful olive wood serving boards. I gave some as gifts and everyone loved them have had requests from other family members for these boards need to start stocking up on my gifts for this holiday season. Thank you in advance. Yes, so great news here. The olive wood serving boards are coming back. We even have a salt cellar. That is an olive wood that it's fantastic. They are personal favorites of mine. They make amazing shark URI boards. They're perfect gifts. I have to say, I'm quite impressed by people who are buying holiday gifts already. It's a year round sport. Nikki, it's the holidays, happy holidays, happy holidays, Matt. We are so grateful. We consider any feedback, good or bad an incredible gift. So I think our customers so much for reaching out to us happy. Holidays to all of you. So with all this great food around for the holidays, how do you keep from really overdoing it? That's a good question. And it's first smart person, a nutrition specialist, like Sabrina. Taste everything. I'd say that's my favorite thing about that time of year is you get to taste a little bit of everything, and if you want to try something, you can just take it to a party or friend's house and say, hey, share this with me in that you don't feel quite so bad about eating a whole box of us by yourself. Every weekend seems to be jammed with things to do. So if I want to try some stuff, grab grab a bunch of different things and bring them over and share them with everyone. Do you have a favorite trader Joe's product? I would say my favorite and I eat this throughout the year. Even though it's holiday, one is peppermint, bark tin. I stock up at the end of the year, so I owe peppermint, bark for several months and chip away at it. All like anything peppermint. So our peppermint practical Slim's are also really EMMY tree. I say, another one, this is a newer one, but it's tasty. I love stuffing in general, is our race, cauliflower, stuffing. It's also vegan. So for those that you know wanna have begin holiday season. It's a great option. Thank you. Sabrina. We caught up with Chris Condit and Ryan Scholtz at our annual captains meeting. Chris Condit is our category manager for the wine business. So he makes sure that you'll have enough great wine for thanksgiving dinner. And Ryan Schultz is our category manager for beer and spirits. These guys are like the engineers of cheers at trader Joe's. This is like holiday central here you are at the the show that kicks off holidays for us. The captain's meaning that Muynak's cabinet that we just pointed out a second ago that's going to be an our October flyer. That is a great brand for us the the cavern as brand new. I expect a lot of action there. I pointed out that large sparkling wine. The. We introduced that last year. It was a huge hit. We doubled our bad on it this year. I expect that to be super popular. Hi, my name is Ryan. I am the category manager for beer and spirits situated. Ges, what what's coming in for the holidays this year for beer and spirits. So for beer and spirits this year we have three holiday scotches at ten year from Ardmore distillery. We have thirteen year old and a sixteen year old that I'm pretty excited about. We have a new winter weeded bourbon. We have some tequila 's we have a mess. Cow, we have some leak. Here's we have plenty to drink at traderjoes this year. Thirsty into that good night. Okay. Thank you. I'll tell you who else is looking forward to some wine and spirits during the holidays in moderation. Of course, Stewart facet Powell works in our Royal Oak Michigan store. I recently got to hang out with Stewart and some of his customers at this trader Joe's just north of Detroit. My name is Stuart Besser Powell. I've been with trader Joe's for eighteen years. The platinum. Wines are pretty much my favorite holiday item. The trader Joe's vintage ale, the cheeses, the a creature, Mons the Salamis there's no no product that I don't like during the holidays, Linda Bruder and I live in Huntington woods and I shop at the Royal Oak trader Joe's shop when we have all the products that come in for the holiday season. Oh, yeah. Oh, that great big. What's the thing comes in the box. I was by four of them because I give them to people to the panel, Tony. Yeah, that one has more flavor and it's the best thing ever. So I was get a bunch of those. My name's Jan and we love trader Joe's nice to meet you. What are your Quinn and and Conrad. Awesome. We loved the little carts when they were little now. They're bigger and kind of misconduct trader Joe's when they're at school. I do the shopping. I should mention. We like the European influence. My husband has happens to be from Germany. So we do buy a lot of the holiday inspired gingerbread house, we do to, and then the seasonal cookie things and sweets. You know, it's like there's always great suites at trader Joe's. So we, we do have a lot of the European influence cookies in at the holidays. Exactly. My name is Emily and I've been a longtime trader Joe's customer. Do you have? Do you have favorite holiday products at trader Joe's or there? Are there things that come in at the holidays that you look forward to for the past ten years? This is where I get my Christmas gifts for people because most people don't need things. So I like to get them are nice, chocolates and coffee, and my grand- grandmas love are not. So yeah, the exciting thing is just three and a half weeks ago. I crossed the threshold and now imminent employees of Abrahams. If you're working at a coffee shop where the changing of the seasons, people say, food is love, and it's so much part of like who we are and everything. We have a favor to ask if you would hit that free subscribe button on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, it is free and it's worth every penny that way you'll receive notice of each new episode as they come up next time. We'll take you around the world in search of traitor jazz products. If you like discovering new flavors as much as we do the next episode will be for you. It's a busy time of year. We're heading into the holidays and it's so easy to get caught up in the worked, be prepared for your friends and family. We just want to say thanks, thank you to our crew who worked so hard to bring great things to your neighborhood. Everyday would love that, and thanks to you for listening and thanks for shopping in our stores holidays, same to you, but more of it say that.

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Moon X Black Pinot Noir 2017

The CheapWineFinder Podcast

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Moon X Black Pinot Noir 2017

"Yeah and from your dot com on yet another companion podcast for a wine. We put on the cheap wine. Finder Dot com website site It's one that This is the two thousand seventeen vintage of this wine and a two thousand sixteen vintage of this wine. Mine was the number one post on our website for about a year and a half month after month after month. This particular one got more hits than anything else and you know we had a whole bunch of we have close to two thousand Reviews on that site and so this was as super popular wine nine. And it's the got a weird name last name is the moon ex black Pinot noir 2017. Eighteen you can find it at trader Joe's for six dollars ninety nine cents. Though on the Internet. There's some out of New York Selling Elena for nine ninety nine. Had it see anybody else on it but it seems it's not a trader Joe's exclusive it's California where the grapes are grown You know I think the company that makes its out of Lodi but not that that matters and this is kind of a wine Sort of based after me. Oh Me Pinot Noir. which was a about an eighteen dollar Nawar? That did not taste like beano wire. I I think there was some petite Sir I forget the other groups that are in there too to have Pinot Noir Merlot or Chardonnay on the front label. You have to have seventy five percent of those grapes in the bottle. And so you can put twenty five percent of something. and still a single varietal wine and they put twenty five percent of Bob. Some kind of really juicy Actually actually delicious grapes in that battle. The purest hated it. It was like Oh my God what do they do still most horrible thing in the world and the guy who founded it it was part of the Wagner family who does came US sold the company for a third of a Billion Dollars B. M. They sold it for three hundred thirty thirty million dollars so I guess Not paying any attention to what the purest like is. You can't go wrong us. Oh Trader Joe's in Moon Ex. Black people are kind of want the same way. And as you know for me me if I'm going to have a wine with twenty dollars for the meal you can start getting some pretty decent Pinot noirs Metro Pinot Noir Fan. I like the real deal new ours. I don't I don't but the stuff tastes good. I mean so I don't really on the label doesn't it mean it doesn't mean I can't like it because it doesn't taste like a Pinot Noir And it's so it's it's ripe overripe. This is fairly balanced. The I was rereading the two thousand sixteen vintage one and that one. I thought it was a food wine. Don't think this one is a food and water. This is more of a sipping party wind and so Louis there must be a different somewhere in the in the production somehow Let's not bad. It's a soft smooth kind of they can of tasty fairly balanced out over the top. Not overly sweet not overly big Jammie But big bell smooth tastes good. What else do you? I'm GONNA TAKE A and I wouldn't really If you're looking for me Pinot noir for a third the price. This probably the isn't GonNa do it for you if you're a big fan of that one but if you're looking for a six ninety nine red blend that soft and smooth within goes down easy I mean fine. This actually tastes pretty good at nice rounded fruit. Flavors there's there's a bit of chocolate a bit of Cream Plums Cherries. There's arise Berry. You know maybe a little cranberry towards a Finnish creamy even know I mean heck I mean all in something that a wine what else can ask for especially at this price point where it's got some body to it It doesn't have the I think I can't remember. Be Honest with you. The the two thousand sixteen. That's been a while But I I. I thought it was a food wine and I don't think this is a food wine. Just doesn't have the structure does the acidity doesn't have that edge that you need to be food wine but you can have it with burgers and everything else I mean. I just think it's better sipped in party wine. And that's kind of something to think about with the holidays coming up A here's a red blend. That tastes really good in six ninety. Nine keep a couple of bodies potties bottles on hand. I don't know where you put the body but keep the bottles ells on hand and you know for you can get three of these bottles for twenty bucks people come over. You have a party pop. The top it goes down smooth. You're going to be talking about about the year you're talking about France I mean. This isn't a contemplation kind of wine. This is easy to drink. You know you didn't know you finish it so you put your glass out for some more. You know you're going to have fun. And that's that's not a bad thing having fun for a party one. The cost ninety nine and it has a name like Moon X. which doesn't make any sense to anything and it's called black but it's actually purple and what else to say about the that that it is six ninety nine. It's a tasty battle of a red bland. It's not a Pinot Noir. Even those as being on our label it. Well I guess it is. Because there is Pinot on the law in the seventy five percent of its elitist Pino but but don't taste like peanut to me but is fine with me because I like it the way it tastes so this is a short one that too much to say it's a party one Stock up if you feel like it given an audition for the holidays it's Muynak's Black Kapito. Newark Twenty seven teen. That's for me Over and out until the next time I think I've got a halloween wind coming up before too long a couple of days uh-huh because we gotta get bottles that look good on the table for Halloween parties and then we get to. That comes the

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Gary Gulman's Trader Joe's

Good One: A Podcast About Jokes

1:34:08 hr | 3 weeks ago

Gary Gulman's Trader Joe's

"If. One of the hardest things to figure out these days is what to watch next first of all congrats second of all, you check out HBO. Max Discover something. New to watch on HBO Max like Lovecraft Country The new HBO series from Jordan Peele Meka Green and J.j Abrams that's got everyone buzzing plus Hbo Max is the only place you'll find new binge worthy Max originals like Selena Gomez new cooking show you heard that right Selena Gomez learning to cook from some of the world's best chefs no less find your next favorite all in one place on Hbo Max. Starts. Dreaming today download the APP or visit Hbo Max Dot Com to start your free trial. Hello and welcome to good one a pass about you. I'm your host Jesse David. Fox. Each episode, a guest comes on to play clip of one their jokes and discuss how they wrote it how it fits into what they're trying to do with comedy. This week is going to feel long really really long. So I thought we'd rerun the episode about the longest joke we've ever had on the show are March two, thousand, nineteen interview with Gary. Goldman the joke is is so good and and Gary is so engrossing talking about it. Importantly, it's twenty four minutes long stretching out over six tracks off his two thousand, sixteen album. It's about time it's it is in my opinion Gary's magnum opus. As I am a person who calls people's jokes magnum opus. Opus. and. What it, what it is, is a testament to Gary as like a great joke writing craftsmen. They're sort of so many different types of jokes in it, their storytelling there's word play and. Put it all together really conveys why Gary is a joke writers joke writer he he really puts a lot of care and thought into each word each syllable each pause. And I was really excited to get to talk to him about it and really dive into it. I had many sheets of paper highlighted and underlined and I could tell that he appreciated someone finally taking a mess as he should have been taken one we spoke Gary had fairly recently just been getting back into stand up after some time struggling with mental illness, the material that he was working on that we. Do Touch on the interview would go onto become his acclaim two, thousand nine hundred HBO special the Great. Depression. If you haven't seen that special I'm sure you have if you listen to the show but for some reason, if you haven't, it really is the best of what stand up can do it. It combines just like great joke writing and craftsmanship to allow him to talk about a darker part of his life. So enjoy all of this joke I know going to. Alkyl up strap. In. Put both headphones in. Do whatever you do when you pay attention. To a joke. Or you know just keep on going for your walk anyway here is Gary Coleman. Now, now I'd like to tell you a story of a meltdown ahead of trader Joe's. First of all, let me preface this. Preface this. Preface this by saying that I love trader Joe's I. Love Them Bear so nice. The all do each other's jobs. There's no hierarchy. I it sounds Communist. Maybe, it is communist but at least it's on Soviet wall coke. Communism. I would characterize the communism at trader Joe's as Narnia. NARNIA during. The. Reign. Of Ashland the lion. Obviously it's not going to be the white witch God forbid. During the reign of Azlan the line as the line. Let me add the most obvious Christ figure in the history of literature I called it in fifth grade and I'm a Ju. But we got to the part in Lion, which wardrobe whereas land dies. In the kids were weeping. There were so distraught and I remember I was so cool. I said hold your tears. Cisco's where I think it's going. He'll be back on Sunday. Show enough. There's nice. Trader Joe's they always compliment me on one of the items I chose. Feel so good. Like have you tried the all oil popcorn and I always make the same adorable I always say tried it. I can barely keep it in stock. Let me tell you why. That's funny. I'm not a purchasing agent for a grocery store. I'm just a guy. Common item. They know what to do because I bring my own bag and they know what to do with it. A lot of grocery stores there dumbfounded by that I've had them put my reusable bag into a plastic. Did. You think that your store sells pbs bags thought no no no, that's only available with one hundred dollar contribution. Yeah I contribute along with the John D and Catherine T. MacArthur. Foundation? Bill and to a lesser extent. Foundation. The Chubb. Group. What do you get when you don't laugh when you say Chubb Group? And viewers like me. Bring my bag tells you everything you need to know about me. Thoughtful environmentally conscious that lover. Patient attended love lover. That's what that's. My own. And a Lotta Times now, this is going to be like this is insignificant but I'm GonNa show you something that they do at traderjoes. That makes me so happy. I pay with a credit card and I have to go to sign the receipt. And a Lotta Times I have my toe bag over my shoulder. So I can't get leverage to don't have two hands available. I can't get leverage and a trader Joe's they subtly very subtly put their hand on the top of the receipt and give me that leverage so I can make that quality signature. And it's the most intimate moment of my day. When that person looks at me and without saying a word says you're not alone. And I can feel my brain wash in Serotonin and dopamine. I can, and then then I read this study. I didn't I didn't read a study. A summary of a study I read this summer have study that psychiatrists did. where? These little interactions during the day the hello to a neighbor the hey, the nice weather we're having or whatever any of those little interactions during the day, raise your level of Serotonin and dopamine in your brain. Sir Toner Dopamine. That's the same thing you get from your from your PROZAC Brexit or affects your Alexa whatever you use drive over the bridge without getting onto the car. I won't judge you I'm to everything but skates right now. So Nice. Trader Joe's. There was asked me if I found everything I was looking for today. And I don't even think it's limited to their inventory. I honestly believe that if I told the cashier well today today, I couldn't find a friend. I feel like she would stop everything and say to her boss Bev. I'M GONNA take my fifteen minutes early if that's okay. This young man needs here and I have two of them. For. Women. Well, I apologize. That's the knock on me. They say, did you find everything you were looking for at other grocery stores but they don't mean it. Don't mean it. They're just saying just in case you're the undercover shopper. They don't mean it. They just want you to get out of the store just say ask you find. Just say yes. Got Out of this. What am I gonNA hold up the line because you couldn't find your hundred calorie oriole cookies. Hundred. Calorie, oreo cookies are such a scam. There's such a scam they're neither orioles nor cookies. Chocolate flavored oyster. Crackers. Which is fine. If the super the day is marshmallow Biz. It's always lentil. Rice up. Trader Joe's they ask if you found everything we're looking for today I've followed up with them. I said, well, that's goes here and I got some fair trade conflict-free pumpkin seeds. And this week, all I could find is the conventional, the unfair trade blood pumpkin seeds. Depicted in the ever. So traumatizing documentary blood pumpkin seeds. I said, are you out of them? She said, did you check all sixty snack I'll? Check thirty, five year trail mix variety nine of which contain EMINEM's. please. Point me to this trail where I can pick. Over chocolate? With Times new, Roman MC typed on the side. A. Confined them. That's when she rang a bell and the stock boy who's also the Chief Financial Officer He came running up the with my pumpkin seeds and the bottle of CIDER that he said might be fine complement and it was. It was it was the Pena, my pumpkin seeds, Chilean sea, Bass, I shit you not. Might be white you humble son of a bitch. Now, of course that begs the question. How did you have a meltdown in this Shangri la? How did you lose your mind in this Xanadu? The people who shop there. godless savages. They're pushy. They are aggressive. They're hostile they cheat. Sal You cheat at a grocery store. It's easy. You put your car in the checkout line with a few items in it, and then you abandon it, go get more things and bring it back and shuttle back and forth and don't worry the schmuck behind you push the Cart Ford when the line moves and I was that Schmuck. SCHMUCK PUTZ. Yachts that Schmendrick that Schlemiel Be Bej slept. SCHMO that shook. Him One hundred different words for snow dues wave one hundred different words from loser. And then recently my tune change, I said I'm sick of pushing the cart forward to take advantage they never come back and say thank you they never apologize. So if a new policy when the line goes ahead, I go ahead of their cards strictly because I'm spiteful and vengeful I steal an item from their car. And I am diabolical I. Always pick an item that will cause domestic strife were to go missing. And then I just fantasize about said strife. Get. This whole fantasy in my head about the husband coming home and he just wants to put on his salmon colored slacks Papas caller. It's the O'Reilly factor. But he wants a snack and his wife with trader Joe's Today. So he goes into the kitchen and he starts looking through all the Brown. Paper bags on the island in the kitchen one brown paper bags, they don't recycle these. Two they have an island in their kitchen. Do you know how wealthy you have to be tavern island in your kitchen. New York City a landmass in your kitchen. To have kitchen in your kitchen in New York City May Have An island. I hate them already and he's going through is becoming increasingly anger. Got The cookie butter. Of course, you've got the cookie butter. Turn Jose's Salsa. We're the fuck is by Kashi Goalie Clutch Karen. Crunch. It's marinating almond milk as he loses his mind. The other thing I like to do in this strictly. Community. Service. Invite any elderly woman in the vicinity to cut ahead with me. You say, how do you get elderly women to join Union pursuits? I appeal to their vanity. I say. Come on girls. When elderly women are referred to with girls? For the first time since the Cuban missile crisis. They light. One of the woman who was so overcome with lust she she was fanning herself their hand. Third. Grade Teacher will tell you futile. Fanning herself with their hands. Young man young men if you had any idea how old I am And I said, Phyllis. I had some idea how you are. The fact that the Department of Commerce discontinued the first name in nineteen thirty three. I can ballpark at you, Randy. Banks. The, only the elderly their. Greatest generation people so They're rule followers. Didn't want to make any ways they're like what's going to happen when the woman comes back to the car. Well Rose Blanche. Dorothy. There'll be a showdown. I'll handle it. I know we're dealing with here I've profile criminal. Based on the time of day and the neighborhood I. Know What? She's GonNa. Look like three PM upper west side wealthy. Also she shopping healthy to me, she exercises she works out. She's going to have that body because she goes to Pilates Yoga Soul Cycle. It's going to have that combination body with the head. Doesn't really match. Because there's no yoga. Pose the face. So you have these mini tors walking around the city. The lower body of a yoga instructor and the head of a Komodo Dragon. That's what came back to the car. That's what came back to the cart armful of frozen. Foods. Now. Why is that significant? Well, this particular. Trade. It means she went downstairs to frozen foods to ten minute round trip the audacity name. The temerity. To go downstairs to frozen foods comes back with an armful and said and I quote yeah. Now She said. Yeah Then she said No. I hate that expression so much it is the ultimate and passive aggressive to get your hopes up with the only dash them upon the rocks of no. Yeah. Now, I was ahead of you. I hate you know? It's my third most hated expression. Number three is yeah no number two at the end of the day. They think they're so smart. Starting their sentences with at the end of the day, and they really wind it up at the end of the day. Look. They see so much and saying nothing. You still own with these little luck listen. Nothing. I'm just thinking out loud here. Here's the thing. The thing is when it comes right down to it. When all is said done in push comes to shove at the end of the day it is what it is. Just. Saying. The end of the day and just saying Oh those people I I hate them, I hate them. It's wrong to somebody for their expressions but I do it. At the end of the day they think they then they dropped some empty cliche on you at the end of the day it's all about family and community. When The end of the day. What is it breakfast? Hookers and cocaine? Is that what it's about? Let me plan my day. And just say and. Just say. They always were just saying something irradiating offensive or ignorant nobody's said anything brave courageous and then backtrack to saying. Give me liberty or give me death I just say. I know those do stock alternatives. I just want you to know I mean it. s not to country can do for you ask what you can do for your country Iran I do say. If you have the time I don't want to inconvenient you. Always FACEBOOK Status Update. Offensive. I never had any trouble with in my backyard. For we elected a black president. Just. Saying. Let's say nurse Correlation I'm not saying the rain a correlation could be specious. This woman said yeah now. I was ahead of you. Know. Yeah. I flipped it. I said No. Yeah. You were ahead of me. Then you went shopping. You can't go downstairs to frozen foods come back with an armful and take your spot in line. At this point Ma'am back cuts I, feel that's incredibly generous. Considering the golden girls have minutes to live. I wish I could say it ended there but it didn't. She got. Violent. I said that you can go ahead of me. She just rammed ahead. She rammed me in the basket with her car. sprained my wrist crushed my lentil chips rendering them useless for dipping topic. And I just stood there. What I was looking for a bouncer I don't know I don't know what I was looking for greater chose. So many will somebody say something. I like. No I'm going to say something I gotta take a stand at trader. Joe's I gotTA take a stand. I don't want to take a stand the most stand I'll take all insist on a booth cheesecake factor it's more comfortable. But I don't like to take a stand but I said, no, there's no way I have to. I have to say something. This aggression will not stand. So I took a stand. I've seen stands taken. You need addressed a slogan. And all I could come up with. US, the black power symbol, which is completely inappropriate. Hundred Sixty eight Mexican Olympics I raise my fist. But. The slogan was even worse. I said this isn't. Higher pitched. Than that came out so bad my voice was shaking they ban. And And my fantasy. It started groundswell of support. The people rallied behind me and they said, you know I'm glad you said something. Nothing. There was silence. There was no chanting of USA. There was islands except for one guy behind me up. Here we go. Then I look to the perimeter for support. And all there was was an eerie glow. As the people, raise their phones and switched from pick two. I have seriously miscalculated the political climate of this trader Joe's. They are not ripe for. Revolution. Would've backed on I was just saying I was GONNA back down. The woman who cut me? Just couldn't leave well enough alone. She woke the sleeping giant. I said this isn't fair. She turned around and she said. You'll get over it. You don't know me at all. You have just ensured I will never. I will never get over it. I am sensitive and I hold a grudge. I have axes, I've been, grinding since second grade. There is no way I get over this I will be bringing on on my deathbed I. Assure you on my deathbed my last words will be this is. People it'll become my Rosebud people analyze what he meant by this. Life is too short. Life is a tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury signifying nothing. Oh No, no. A woman. Cut Him in line fifty, six years ago a trader. Joe's the three never got over it I. Swear to you even though she said that he would. Wouldn't get over it so I So I had a counter attack I. picked up my basket but I I didn't make the same twice. I didn't want to get inside of me. So I picked up my jab fake left she bit. So I crossed over to get the baseline on but she was spry she spun and rammed me once again in the basket with her car but I was so drunk with right. You're saying that ice cream that's assault that is assault ring. The Bell I've been struck. I've been struck. That's when she realized she'd been out. Crazy. I've never said I've been struck. Nobody said I've been struck since the nineteenth century I've been struck went out with good day. I set good day Sir. Good day serve course go fuck yourself of eighteen, seventy six. What a splendid time in American history, we just say greeting in an angry tone everybody knew you meant business? So she started her retreat, she said fine fine. Fine. Go ahead of me if it's that important to you. It is. Important to me justice. Just as important to me, it's a cornerstone of my philosophy. But she says. Just. No. Just no you're allowed to leave your. Car New. York City. That's how it works. Yeah No. that. Is Not how it works. All I know how it works. I've been on grocery card since I was eleven years old. My mom felt I was mature enough not to ruin ladies Achilles heels with the car. I know how it works. Let me show you how it works. All right. Here's your cart. Here's your foot anything you can reach. Without lifting your foot off the ground. You can put into your cart. You cannot lift your leg get an escalator downstairs to frozen foods. Come back with an armful of skinny cows and amy's organics. Because you will have lifted your pivot foot and that my dear is travel. And I'm calling. And she just asked. I, assure you. She just. She just said. Suppose. Good. I forgot skating. Craving something swing. Only, have three points left today. Skinny Gos-. Two points. I love skinny. Can barely keep them in stock. Would say go go get your skinny cows Godspeed. Because that's the truth about Americans and even New Yorkers we love love doing favors for strangers, strangers, not our family they can go fuck ups and A. Stranger, I will bend over backwards to show them I. Am not the person my family said I, am. We are here with the man behind all of that joke Gary Goldman. Being here. Oh, thanks for having me. I've been I would have been furious if you didn't have me on ever. Yeah. So I WANNA start from the beginning the very very beginning of this joke So you go to trader Joe's seventy second and Broadway after a therapy session my therapist is at seventy second and Broadway to this guy that many comedians see this man named Allan left goods started with Richard Lewis and over. The years he's seen so many comedians in the most boring way possible. What happens Oakland? This woman I was I was there and there were two or three elderly women ahead of me, and then there was a woman ahead of them who who left her her cart and was gone for a while and to the point where the line moved forward and we we went to her and and then she came back and and. She insisted on getting ahead of us again, and one of the elderly women and this is the. Great Line that I take for myself. One of the elderly woman said to her you went shopping. And she she resisted and she was she was so hostile and they just gave in and I was so incensed and had just been empowered by a therapy session. So so you have decided to. To. Yell, this isn't fair. And then the woman turned back to me and she said you'll get over it and. That was the yeah and then we kind of tussle the little moon and. Get in front tried to get in front of her and she she slammed her car into my basket and and it got a ugly and then in in reality she said fine if it's that important to you but it. Might not have been what really happened I can't remember because I've told the story so many times that way. Picture her. If she said that somebody once said to me in a similar situation. If it's that important to you. Yeah. Go ahead if it's that important you this woman actually did say you'll get. But somebody somewhere in my life either that woman or somebody else said if it's that important to you and and and I said it is. Important to me it happens immediately like. You know I talked about how there's Comedians have sort of spidey sense of like material in. Yeah. Did you feel like oh? There's something yes. Absolutely and to the point where I went on stage that night at the at the comedy cellar and told the story and the only thing I really had was you went shopping. which was the line, the elderly woman said, and it bombed and the entire story just no interest from the audience but I knew something was there. So I, sat at the comics table upstairs at the olive. Tree and I said I remember it was Keith Robinson I told him the story and he laughed and I said, do you think that's that's funny. Is that worth sticking with and he and he said, yes, and I never do that I never workshop. I never asked permission of other comedians whether this is this is funny I. If I have done that it's been a long time and I don't remember the last time I had done. That is because there's a different type of joke that he was exactly that's a great point Jessica. A storyteller up to that point, a true story teller and then. It's it became not not all that true. Yes but. Times yeah. So it's emotionally true which I think is important. So is the Get through sort of all but I was wondering I guess at that point what trader Joe's materials already out there like at what point are you making sure there's things that sort of adjacent to this. I know because I know that you do that the thing was that. Normally. People in or Comedians rail against these things they hate the hate that yeah, and I've found it's it's it's easier to be different if you take the other side of that I, don't know why they make it so easy for me but they do they just hate everything. There are so cynical I love trader Joe's, and it's much easier for me to write something original from that from that vantage point and perspective than it is to to attack something it's it's. It's it feels better to as we mentioned, the joke was not written in order no joke it's like okay. With the first word. Right. Right. Exactly and what's useful is. By Two thousand twelve you have the story half of the joke because you do John Oliver. Yeah. So you basically have a little bit of trader Joe's as a setup to then he'll story and then by two thousand, fourteen on home show you only do the part about how you like trader Joe's right and that's twelve minutes already of material, and then somewhere along the way nine more minutes come together by the time record an album two, thousand, fifteen to set the stage. Okay. So you have the seeds of this Pun intended in the turnover joke, which is John where say They're so nice. Every does everybody else's job from the bottom to top is no doubt communists the end then by Pete Holmes it's a it's an oasis sweetness in a desert of cruel grocery stores. They're so nice to each other. For saying. It's communist clearly, but it's not grey wool coats Soviet. Communism category categorize the communism edge trader Joe's as Narnia in, which is pretty close to what you say in the special. So I, think that the sort of begs the question of getting to. From, communism to Narnia into, let's talk about Narnia just sort of the thought process of getting to into Narnia for years. I had a theory on. On chronicles of Narnia separate joke that a lot of the issues with with jokes is. And it's it's clear in the introduction to this I'm just going to tell a story it's hard to get into it. How do you talk about something else and then all the sudden it? It can. It can really throw off the the audience and distract them and confuse them. So I I find it much easier to work these things into something that already works and Tangentially, and I also have always loved. Rube. Goldberg. Jeans where where? It's just about the art of it in the beauty of it. I think that having these ideas and writing pages and pages of jokes about the lion witch and the wardrobe even before the movie. I hadn't. I know where two? no-confidence to just bring it up out of out of nowhere because it's jarring to audience. So when I? and. This is probably subconscious working I didn't go into it thinking what other types of communism or there it just it just it just came to me. That that this was that this was a benevolent form of communism and the first thing that came to my mind was was Narnia and guess what I've been. Thinking about a joke about the lion, the witch and the wardrobe for for ever and. Also, there's probably not any way that people will know what I'm talking about. That movie had come out. So I could have written a joke in the early nineties when I started comedy and nobody would have remembered. It if they ever saw the cartoon version or read the book, I mean it just wasn't and it just wasn't in the top. Yeah. Yeah. So that was it's it's all about. Timing with a lot of these, there's storytelling as a form and their storytelling STANDUP, which we've talked about in a certain way couple times on the show I. John Mullany talking about my curriculum and then Mike we're talking about micro bellio, which is every single detail that you might tell stories an opportunity to do jokes on top. Is. That is that essentially how you you're like, okay why have the seven minute story? I'm doing a John Oliver but I'm not done with it. Okay. Let me go through I. Have this communism. Let's see if I can do just more on this. This is one detail. It's explore that well, the the way our right is to. transcribe what I sat on on stage last night. At this point, it took me a long time I always transcribe my jokes but over the years I've become better at adding things to the jokes while I'm on stage and in the moment so when I'm transcribing the story I think. I love trader Joe's. Okay. Why yeah and then I can. I can expand on on that and as I'm saying, here's why I love it everybody does each other's jobs are very nice to each other. It's a great communal atmosphere. It's it's. And, I can just hear critics say it's Communist and then I say, yes, it's communist but it's benevolent communism. So so I write out out that and and just go on stage every every night and hope this new thing that I added from the last time we will will will stick or at least feel right and and And get some response and the whole thing and being a comedian is building Thomas is hard and I find this. This is the most efficient way for me I want to ask you about. Changes from the Pete Holmes Show to saying which is in on Pete Holmes you go I called in fifth grade and do. Yourself but then especially, go I, call them fifth grade and I'm a Jew okay and making it longer. It wasn't intentional. I. Got it. So. I, guess there's sort of a general as their amount of wordperfect. You are to thing like this like are you recall how much of it are you verbatim trying to remember something that you've written down probably eighty percent yeah. But I I there's Jerry Seinfeld who writes it down, performs it word for it and doesn't imitation of every night and then years ago I read this interview with Garry shandling and when she says he meddles with the timing and the words in the order and the speed and and everything he's more of a an actor I think Jerry was when he was doing standup and And so I have combined those two I would say it's eighty percent, Seinfeld and twenty percent riffing, and by the time I, put it on a TV show and definitely by the time I put it on an album or a special I'm I'm I'm locked in. A lot of the riffing is just recalling things that I had written down. Yeah. Because I've I've written it to death before right before I bring it on on stage usually. So then the end of this section as he said, is the kid talking. Hold your tears of if this is going where I think it's going back on Sunday and show enough right. Is that incongruency that it sets up what I think is interesting about this first. Tangent it sets up. What I guess you would call like the what you see people call the game of the what is the open the Meta textual comedic game it sounds like there's jokes in between but sort of the there's sort of. comedies. One is there's going to be incongruency of the situation and how you're reacting to it. Right and the other one is there's going to be these tangents and I told you there's a story and immediately I'm not talking about that story. Right? Is that something that at some point you're hoping for? Do you realize that is what the rhythm of it I love When you digress I loved digression. As long as you come back to the to the thing I I, I love that and I loved at the time I was reading a lot of a lot of David Foster Wallace and his footnotes and is interesting as the as the text. So yeah, I sort of got into got into that at the time. So the all versions. Of the sort of joke involvement to the complement of your purchase, and then the first question is had to land on the purchase of Ali Olive oil popcorn as what they would cut minute. Would you try out different things? No that was the first. That was the truth. Ed like thing that you it, it never happened but the olive oil popcorn seem seemed to be the. Like they really pushed it. It was. It had a huge presentation and the and the different stores. Yeah. Trader Joe's stores that I had gone to and. People are very moved by and it it seemed pretty specific but distill general. Popcorn somebody could be excited over Yeah. So that sets up. When the I just wonderful jokes of it, which is tried it I can hardly keep it. In the big difference between the Pete Holmes version, the recorded version is you add. Let me tell you why that's funny. Oh Jeez, which is a specific move i. think what is what I like about all of that is. Like Oh this guy in the story is also the guy we're seeing on stage right? It's the same. Yeah. I hadn't thought of that's interesting. So the let me tell you I. It's funny is a very specific. Breaking. A wall type thing I think you've done that before that what why do you think you add to that in? Why do you like it because? I worked on it and it was so. It was so hit or miss in the in the comedy clubs and I'm so sensitive so that you don't laugh this thing I love and I worked on I'm hurt and and so one night I explained to them why they why they should have laughed and The interesting thing is W- deconstructing it makes it less funny. Yeah. But for some reason that that sort of bravado is funny. Yeah. So it's it's very unusual th the issue I have with that as it like a lot of comedians doing that now well, there's a lot of this is a bad joke explain why yeah and I, think it's it was funny until it stopped being. Unusual. Yeah. Impede homes you say the explain why is I don't have an inventory control issues. I'm not a buyer, but in the Tree in the album I believe you say I'm not a purchasing agent. I'm not a purchasing agent for. Grocery. Store. Yeah. Buyer is too inside. Baseball horsing agent is more people would understand that better than harder sound. Yeah. Yeah purchasing Yeah. which then goes into a new part, which is the PBS part and what that you set it up by. The most jokey joke of the joke which is a lot of grocery stores that he's just he's talking about you bring your own bag and they do with it a lot of grocery stores there dumbfounded by that I've had them put my reasonable bag into a plastic bag, which is a real how dumbfounded are they, and then you it's a real punchline Joe, but it really happened. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why you get. That's why you feel comfortable having such a yes and the PBS part of it. Then Paul re like let me see you always pbs material that I've had lying. Oh, sure that I I just. Think about when I was in the audience. It was it was such. A magical moment on comedian would say something that you. Thought only you had the I mean going back to the the most basic one, which is the the frequency of those of those late night commercials where the woman said I've fallen and I can't get up I. Remember I didn't realize that every comedian had that joke in the eighties. But when I heard a comedian say that I was like Oh my gosh, I. Thought I was the only person saw that. Yeah that commercial. So. Luckily I've gotten in front of audiences who are irritated by the list of names at the beginning of the of the PBS and telling you these billionaires who have contributed. Yeah. So speaking of which the the next part I think is maybe my favorite part because it's so different in a lot of ways. So it's the You the story of how they handle the receipts. Yeah. That's my favorite part to and it's and it's different than almost any other joking that I think of you did at the time, which is a really long bill though like you're just talking about and you get really quiet. Can you walk through the how that evolved because it really is sort of different and it is new between after the. Like obsolete newer part how did that come come about to do in that style? Well. I've never been really comfortable talking about my mental illness on on stage. And then there was this this opportunity where I could. I was already doing pretty well with this joke and then I, could I feel comfortable with the the audience that I could I could make myself vulnerable by by. Talking about this, this rather personal thing, and it happened to coincide a lot of the things with with jokes are timing and when on some things in your in your head you're working on a joke and then all the sudden or maybe it's that that thing where you start noticing things when you're when you're involved with them baader-meinhoff. Yes. So I just read. A new. York Times OP ED BY MY Psychiatrist I didn't find him through the OP EDS turns out. He's an op Ed. Guy. He's he's professor at Cornell and he's also sees patients but he had talked about the tiny interactions during the day. There was a study raised you levels of dopamine and Serotonin, and then I just all these things they try to I, try them out one night and they worked and they stuck and people laughed when I mentioned the the different. Antidepressants that were out there and so acknowledged that I was on them and and it was very it was very freeing. Instead of me embarrassed it was very freeing and I think one of the reasons why I like that part of the joke so much is pretty much. My entire hour and a half show right now is is based on revealing a lot about my my my goodness and depression anxiety and my hospitalization so which is This whole new. It's called the Great Depression and we're shooting in for for HBO in June here in New York but. The point is that. Trader Joe's employees hold the receipt of the top when you write it down and so I'm some going to trader Joe's basically now at this point to do research on little things and find as things and that one stands out because I'm writing a joke on it and it wouldn't work if only traderjoes doesn't I'm sure a lot of other people had that happen to them but it is so. It is such a connection and it feels so good and again that's one of the great things of being in an audience is when the when the comedian it seems like he's reading your mind and the part of the makes me like laugh loudly. Whatever you use to drive over the bridge without getting out of the car. Yeah. That phrasing of it. Is Is that a thing you have to write down ahead of time? Do you have something like that? No, I wrote that down. I was trying to think of a fun way to say don't commit. Suicide. So that it's it's just finding a euphemism for for suicide. Just playing around until you find. Yeah. Yeah. So then you have the pete combs in the domes. When you end this version, you have the all the orioles stuff which I feel like as a person who has famously has all these. Felt, like head ready, there's some word changes There The impede home say the secret is they're not oreo been especially special go hundred calorie oreo cookies are such a scam they're neither orioles nor cookies. which all is to build up to Their chocolate covered which could flavored. Which has alliteration ask and consonants in it. is any of that on purpose? Do you think you sounds good sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. Because I've listened to so much. I love listening to smart people talk. And I'll listen I listened to a few good men over and over again, falling asleep and in the Aaron Sorkin in particular and Quentin Tarantino I. Love. I, love listening to people talk like nobody else. And Yeah it's something that that probably took writing down initially for the first ten years of my Yamaguchi and then now I can do on the fly for the for the most part with with A. With just a luckily I've. My delivery has a lot of pauses and go slowly. So I have a little bit of time to to formulate on stage. When you have a thing, you make sure like you you hit it hard. Yeah. Chocolate flavored crackers a hard headed hit. Short joke. Sure. But but again, it's it's there's a there's an. Survival of the fittest thing where if talk flavored royster crackers didn't get a big laugh. It wouldn't. It wouldn't have made it past the first time I doesn't matter the phrasing. Zone here right. I mean also just sort of it's it can say anything right you can say they're crackers and he was. Little bit that would have been funny to. Yeah, totally. So there's now we're at blood pumpkin seeds. So there's three different versions of you do blood pumpkin seeds. On say I got some salt-free cage free conflict-free pumpkin seeds I don't know how you feel about the whole controversy, but after seeing blood pumpkins. I'd like to get the conflict-free in Pete Holmes you just say Instead of the conventional unfair trade pause you've been paused blood pumpkin seeds and don't reverence movie. But then right back in a special, you not only reference movie you underline the joke which the unfair trade blood pumpkin seeds depicted in the average. So traumatizing documentary blood pumpkin seeds. Yes. which is a classy way of pointing out you said something funny but. The issue with that. Is and I would never do it now and I kinda cringe is a lot of I don't want to call them conservative but hard as Comedians mark. The different. Organic. Mark and I I'm actually celebrating it and and so I don't I wouldn't do that now because it sounds too much like like table complaining lay. Non Gmo. It's like all these things are positive. Yeah, it's like Oh. These are better bumpkins. Yes. That's what the joke is saying yes this or that has better than other stores and then in both the John Oliver. Pete version, they ring the bell which people love the Ring Bell Joke, and then you're like we're here comes the chief Here's the stock boys also chief financial officer in the head of human resources, but you drop head of human resources. For special. Oh, I shouldn't have. Yeah. Yeah it's probably better to add the human resources but but chief financial officer is definitely a choice CEO would have been too easy. Yeah and it's a specific chief executive officer doesn't sound so good. But but somehow chief financial officer sounds sounds like the one of the things that my friend and I were at a starbucks in Los Angeles. I'll never forget this conversation with this friend of mine he he was saying he that he thought one of the one of the components of laughter was hearing a word. You forgot you knew. That that makes you laugh and chief financial officer. For some reason I think would ring a bell of people who took a marketing class or or finance glass in in college or High School I. Think it's also hearing words in different contexts that like you. Said trail mix, and then just using trail in a different context people like. It's it's the same thing. Yeah. Have different versions of that throughout all of it like we're using words in different ways or using the same word over and over again in different ways. So this joke ends with how it ended up homes and obviously continue, which is he came with a bottle spiced cider says fine compliment and it was, which is one of the biggest laughs right something that we're they're like displays. All the is on board they also Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and then. It was the war to my public, each lane sea bass. So that is not a famous. Wine to food combination least. Land On. Those words. Peanut Griego is too common. Yeah. Right Cabernet all these other ones we cabinet. Yeah, we're too common, and for some reason I thought Pena Nawar was a white wine. Yeah. So stupid and and drink white wine with a fish but Pinot noir is a is is a soft. Sound. Right Pena, Noir. Pumpkin seeds is a hard. Hyphen and Chilean Sea Bass is another hard one. So it it it felt nice coming out of my mouth and it sounded nice and my my ears so that that's how. How became it's the right amount of syllables. Yeah. It's also WANNA longer civil thing. There's yeah right it's like a rare example of like let me figure out how to make this long without feel. We are now at the store. Yeah. So now the story start. So I, think this is a good time to talk about how to just generally how do you work on a piece like this that ends up being twenty whatever minutes long when Most of it is you're doing fifteen minutes sets like, yeah. How do you then get to the point like Oh my goal is for this to be long I have to imagine somebody like l.. Let's. Do then get to that part where you were. Then you start plotting it out when you realize I'm going to make this one consistent thing I'm a runner and I have dogs. So I, spend a lot of time. Exercising with my with my thoughts, I'm going over these stories and thinking where can and also listening to them a lot when I'm writing something where I can add this and bring this in and I I don't go so far as a two. Frequently, chart them but occasionally, I'll write out a list and and put them in orders. But I will say and Mike was the one who told me this years ago he said you build time by doing hours now doing fifteen minutes. So I would do the hours on the road and add all these things in there, and then I would come back to the comedy cellar and have to fit this into fifteen minutes. But the thing that the comedy cellar is great, it's not not ideal for me at this point in my career whereas some guys I envy like a Chris Rock or Jerry Seinfeld, we'll go up with his notepad comedy cellar and I'm not at that level with the people who book the Comedy Cellar and own the comedy cellar are GonNa are going to? In bringing my notebook on in the audience doesn't know who the hell I a half the time and so I have to I have to go up there with a killer fifteen minutes, but I can lose them. In between some big laughs for a minute at the most usually and within those minutes is where I would add these little things. Little things. Yeah. So you're building it both one minute time. Yes, and and at twenty one minutes at a time. Yeah. So then the next part you do at John, Albert but you you have to set up what the thing is do you have? To just sort of going because you can't really get that many laughs. You're just basically at that part isn't a matter. It's like, how can I explain as quickly as possible? What the central problem is like are you just going over in different trying to in different ways and be like, Oh, I got it down to like three seconds. I got down to five seconds. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. And that's probably part of the the the motivation for the beginning of it. Yesterday have this story not to build up too many too many things and it's an it's not like everything else where it's really well thought out it's just I have this story. Decision. I. Imagine you. I need a very big joke to come to justify that, and that is the the Jewish joke. S Mozambique have hundred different words for Snow Jews, we have one hundred different words for loser. Yeah but the thing is. I had for ye. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. But again. Because I had become a person who had long jokes. Short jokes just didn't fit into my to my set unless I could. I could apply them to these these longer jokes. Yeah. And so having that for for years may have worked in in conversation on a radio interview or something like that but as far as being a part of my act. It would. It would stick out how important is being Jewish and communicating to the audience that you're Jewish to the person you're trying to portray in this store or for you generally as your whatever we say persona is like when you think of yourself is that part of it? Yeah. Yeah. For some reason and it was it was very, it was very. Liberating to me when I first started doing doing comedy in Boston had I started in New York being Jewish. Self. But in Boston I was one of only a few. UPS At the time who are who were talking about being Jewish, this other men in roots Eisler, who is was very inspirational, an influence and influence of of mine, and so I could kind of stand out in Boston comedy with Jewish jokes on a show where most of the guys were were not not non-jewish. which is an obnoxious oppression. So then you it goes into the part where you're imagining the home life of this woman you have not oh yes. which is you portray this husband with salmon colored slacks, pop collar, and Watch O'Reilly factor. What do you want the audience to think of this man in this household at this point? Well, I often get resentful of a very. Rich people depending on how I'm doing. Financially I tend to get an at that time. I was living with three Mormon men in New York City I had three roommates and I was like forty or thirty nine, and so things were tough. I lived on the upper east side and I just saw the wealthiest of the wealthy walking around and and the. Even. Though that this trader Joe's seventy second and Broadway, the the people are are just so. Infuriating because of their their wealth and trader joes is is affordable. I don't understand why the. Why are they shopping there? Yeah and it, and it also goes to my my obsession with with picturing people's home ones based on their behavior and completely. False, judgmental and mean and. It's not a good quality, but it except for joke, right? Yeah. Is it was it hard to sort of get this part to work partly because it's darker than the rest of the like this home life because he yells at his wife Oh. Yeah. Real Bastard Yeah. Then you're like wait you're like this guy who's like the joker who like cause chaos in this? Was it hard to get it to work because it is or people are on your side. So they're like screw those guys that the comedy cellar audiences are generally very There's there's some you can get away with a lot of righteous anger downstairs, but we haven't gotten to the parents of the woman yet but the parents of the woman I don't like to make fun of people who are unattractive. The woman in this was not as attractive is the woman I'm depicting and then in. In the story I don't WanNA I don't WanNa make fun of people's. Barrier making an attractive woman to and I think that's Still Weird not meeting this woman. We have another one more tangent, which is the. which is a whole album track worth, which is about meeting the ladies, the curls yes. Oh, the elderly women. Yeah. My favorite one of my favorite parts of this how did how did that evolve? Well, the story to me of the actual story was the woman who told the woman who cut in front of us you went shopping and As it turns out she wasn't as as angry and didn't really care as much as I did but but she did have that great line where she says to the woman you went shopping and I'll never forget that and the woman who came back to her car was so dismissive of the elderly lady and and as I think about a part of it was for me standing up for these for these elderly women. There's a part that I really think it's really funny but doesn't really work but I want to know. which is so is You comment the lady won the women so overcome plus she was fanning herself with her hand which any third grade teacher will tell you feel to feel titled It is clearly a joke me. It's very funny the audience and find it that funny I can't imagine. What is that? Why is that? Why is that stay in there when you remove above much time? Yeah it's it's a little bit indulgent in that. It doesn't always get a laugh but I've noticed over the years especially when I was a kid, there were moments on on comedy albums wear only later did I notice that the audience laugh and that's my favorite line, and so I think I'm going to to keep that in because I really I love that emerge and and I really. Think that that you may not like it. But if you do like that, you will really like, yeah and and I and I. I feel that's part of building a fan base is collecting the people who you seeing the. Nobody's laughing. But there is some people who are doubled over and the jet appetite I have heard said that that he need to get about eighteen percent of an audience to really love something and then you've got a you've got a nice career. Yeah there I you introduced Phyllis but then you do. A Re thing that's I think it really classic moved by things really impressive, which is You talk the other ladies and there you go. Well. Rose. Blanche author she's yeah. You know you're trusting the audience. To know what you're doing without saying this is what you're doing, which you're setting up a thing later. Is that what was important to not have to spell things out to your audience? What are they? What do you like giving them those moments? I think I think audiences love jokes where they have to fill in part of it, and that's I think it's called negative space in the simpsons, use it. So beautifully, and and one of my favorite know my favorite joke of all time or the thing if I had to vote, what's the best of all time is, is this line other than that? Mrs Lincoln, how was the play? which which makes me laugh. At or maybe laugh when I first heard it, I, analyze it and think about it so much. It's such a beautiful beautiful joke that if I could only save one joke, it would be that one. So that's that's I. Don't know if it's currying favor with the audience but they people like that I love that type of joking and and I'm I'm an audience member at times and and that really makes me happy so. Yeah. We'll be right back with more Gary Coleman. Searching for what to stream next HBO Max is where all of HBO meets the Greatest Collection of movies, shows and Max originals for everyone in the family. Discover something fresh to watch with new HBO series like Lovecraft from Jordan Peele Michele Green and J.J Abrams or the undoing starting to coal kidman and Hugh Grant. 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Using more violent language is delivered to that or you light or is that just something of like only to make the seem like this story I'm telling is a very big deal. Yeah. It was deliberate to use that type of to use that type of of language to take it very seriously is is part of the funniness how outraging how out of proportion my reaction to it? Yeah. The next part of the joke has the prime if the most party of Goeman part, which is the audacity. Nay, the temerity shots. Audacity is usually followed up. In rhetoric by people trying to sound smart, but it comes off bombastic when they say temerity Dasan innate temerity is something that I bet you could find one hundred publications and and I. I. Thought it was funny to use it and something with the stakes are so low. It's usually something from a N. speed. Out of the stupid. Data of hope. Of. Trying to cut online. So Yeah No, she says that right and and then you get your hopes up with the only to be dashed them upon the rocks of the net, which is again the the contrast but I want to ask you. You know you have these turns of phrases that are they aren't a cliches but they are existing phrases like what do you like about? Having the thing that is like it rings era both saying that way. Yeah, I think looking back on it now, I wouldn't have I wouldn't have included dashed upon the rocks of no because the thing that infuriates me about that expression is it's is it's frequency and home how often people use it and I remember I wrote this this short film for an acting class in around. Two thousand two and there was one character this this woman who every time she started a sentence she would start with. Yeah. No, the actress unfortunately couldn't get the get down. You know in real life it was based on her she would talk like that but she couldn't memorize it that way and she would just say you know and and now you have to say, yeah no and she couldn't get it down. So it was an infuriating verbal tech. A lot of people had at the at the time, and again it's something that I couldn't do outside of a joke as you ever notice people who say, yeah no when I put it into this woman's. It worked with that with that perspective. But again, it was something I had had for free years written into this this awful short film in two, thousand, two, thousand and two, and I finally got to to use it and sort of deconstruct that that expression because it infuriates me, it's just I hate I hate lazy writing and I hate lazy talking and I think part of grew up around people who spoke in cliches. It's so interesting because you have turns of phrases that. Feel different and using different context, and then you have a whole rant about. Cliches that you hit yes and there's a clear distinction but it distinguishes what you like to do. You can say dash upon the rocks because that's like it's it sounds like something but not something specific but you do not like and here's a list of every. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm okay with ash upon the rocks because I don't hear that once a day. Yeah. I hear somebody say at the end of the day. Ten Times a day between sports radio and MSNBC and and everything else even on NPR's. Programming people start their sentences with at the end of the day and I I want to stop them, and then for just saying you have those two quotes. Of knowing says it was something smart. Do you remember picking those was one? The sort of contrast here's a Boston accent of someone saying just saying Smart Mayor Quimby from the Yeah. Yeah and Yeah I love doing the Boston accent and and it was it's it's. where I come from shorthand for for being really really turned. The way some people use the southern accent but but yeah, that's that's become too cliche. Even the Boston accent it's probably cliche like. A cliche at this point for anyone who's not from Boston I think. The next part is where you go. You're ahead of me and then you went shopping which we explain was yes. Not Yours. That's good and I'm gonNA keep it great and it gets a laugh but I imagine if it doesn't get alive like Ono, these people do not care, right? Yeah. That's true. That's true. Get finish the story. Right. The interesting thing is that. You went shopping. Is is something that that is the least reliable part of that joke L. interest in it's hit or miss whether they laugh at and I know if they laugh at you went shopping which to me is one of the best parts of the of the joke because it made me laugh when it happened I was like this is incredible. It is. This is gold. What it is a story joke. It's a job with the story, right? So it's like if the stories working then that joke is the funniest part because they're following you right where everything is joke that yeah because you're going to be paying attention for ten seconds and get some of these jobs were. Like yeah, care and be on your side yeah and you're like, oh if they don't laugh like I guess. On the so then it goes on he said considering the Golden Girls Only live, which is nice callback. What is your feeling is two, thousand fifteen connects. This is a time or call backs were. Think adult all time low if people are using it bring, you had a few in this joke alone you have three. Yeah. Yeah I. DON'T I don't care for call backs and there was a time where I would point out how easy it was to get laugh off a callback during the set and then I thought that was too common for guys. To to to or women to do stuff like that. So I would would take that out. Now I used to be blown away by callback until I realized how easy they are. Yeah, So then you you finally have the conversation where she hits into once you're looking around if there a balancer renders your lentil chips useless there for doing for topping. The as you're like, okay well, this conversation was very small. How do I make it into a joke? How did you sort of when you can see everything you let me make this funnier than sort of like a awkward intense moments in real life well, the story involves. Her slamming into my basket and and I was I was hurt a little bit but it was it was. In the context rather violent. And really. An incident. Yeah. Yeah and and I was outraged and one of the great things with comedy is sort of redemptive value which is like all right. This horrible to me at the time because I was shaking this horrible thing happened to me I can redeem this by making it into a joke and it was worth the quote unquote suffering. So the next line is no if seriously miscalculated the political climate of the trader Joe's so they're not ripe for revolution. So this is the part where I wanNA talk about political. This joke is because Is. An incredibly political joke. Maybe at this time, your most political jokes set up yourself this sort of PBS watching. Do in this safe space and any like you're talking about communism and that's about you're facing this wealthy couple. Young's have rules don't apply to them this point. Bernie Sanders is running for president. Yes. You talk about you have that black president joke. Where were you at this time where you like? Rethinking, old Lemme think about how can I make this a political statement about sort of these in an inequality that you're noticing absolutely not just I just know that I was broke at the time and walking around with all kinds of resentment in the richest. City in the richest country I mean. I was broke at a time when a lot of people were were broke I just I just. Hope. I had bought a house at the wrong time and had was under water on it and had to have three roommates and. It was and I was shopping at trader Joe's because it was affordable and healthy and it was just. Yeah. So I was walking around with. I've heard Seinfeld talk about being irritable as a comedian and very, very irritable at that time and and and. The the issue is I can't be so poor that it's causing a mood difficulties. Zo It's usually when I when I make a comeback financially and start. Because I wasn't working the road that much. But enough where I could work these jokes out and. Every every spot at the seller mattered the in that I needed to do my best on them so I needed to be prepared. So they keep on booking. So they keep on booking me because I also needed the money. So getting on on stage frequently was was both helpful for my career but also helpful for my for my for my lifestyle but now as you As you look back on. He do now see like, Oh, I, guess there is a certain sort of like be it political or a understanding of culture that guess is now politicized but sort of like you're contracting types of people I think the thing that I shoot for in comedy and I've heard Billy Crystal talk about it in kind of an old fashioned way where the. where? Where his manager said the need to leave the audience with a tip kid. And and Part of you and and so I think what I wanted to get across in all my jokes at every point in my. Career where I've actually had the skills to to write decent original jokes is that I'm not gonNa tell you very much about me but you'll know what kind of person I am based on this this joke like hopefully after listening to an hour of me, you think I'm a I'm a bro or a bully. I mean, this joke is an incredibly personal joke without being what we think of as comedy, right? Yeah. But what is actually personal is saying I mean, this joke is long and it has it has a lot of little details about it but also tells you how your brain works. you see you connect dots right and that is the best art can do is you get to? Like, ride along a person's brain as they go through a thing Kurt vonnegut talks about reading meditating in other people's minds. no good. Say what he said it's just sort of. Well what you said was was very valid to and well said, but that yeah, that's who I think of when I think of that that idea. So it goes into then you'll get over it, which is amazing moment. When you're listening joke which is like. He's telling this joke like there's there's. I hadn't thought about that like to me that the entire thing is that right? It's like this. You'll get over. This is seventeen minutes it i. Know my Gosh I mean I think the more general question is, why is this joke? So long part of it is what kind of jokes I I love I would watch. COMEDIANS and listen to Comedians as a kid. There there was part of my brain was just saying. Keep going. Don't stop and get to the thing that I think that is the only in my life which ultimately became. A joke that I. Talked about talking about today, but I already went into it but the abbreviation joke which was as a kid. Hoping that someday, a comedian would say most of the state start with the same I, do. So. Yeah. That's why all these things have to be long because I am obsessive about these. Well, that's. What is interesting is that you have this desire to have these long things that are like. The maximum how you can talk about it, and then there's a part of the next part of the joke where you go I have an accent I've been grinding since second grade instead of since the second grade, which is how people would say it and I. I. Don't know if you intentionally removed which I totally. Yeah. So that's at the same time. You're like can't that though there right you're like this joke is twenty one minutes on but is that contrast to do you like to say the second grade is something that an adult would say, but saying second grade is something that you'd say when you were in fifth grade. So it's it's funnier. It's also serve verse of the WHO Sounds Smart it's the adult who sounds like a it's like a like a kid and at some point, it gets too long. Yeah. So I used to add. This part where I told a story from from actually having him I said it happened in second grade with a with a teacher wanted to keep after school and she had the class vote on whether I should stay after school and I lost and I tell the story and someday I will write it well enough that it'll be good enough to end without incident but that was in that joke so it was it was another three or four minutes and it's just like all right now it's becoming gratuitous that you're just you're just Sensing that. Yeah. It feels with you feel feels too long and this sort of the moral of like. The truth about Americans and even new, Yorkers we love doing favorite for stranger which again, pretty political MRS right right yeah. But how did that? How did you end up like? Oh, that's the moral will bend over backwards a show that I am not the person my family said I am that is not a that is a story ending that is a moth slam. Okay Story. Oh. That's interesting. The other thing which is like a big joke ending yeah. Not The ending really on a laugh, right? Nicer Smarter Interesting Yeah was it you promised a story you feel like ended the story or you just sort of thought of that and you're like how that specific version of the ending. where it doesn't have like another. Yeah. That's why that woman right? Right well I I don't. I'm kind of tired of the jokes where the where the comedian is the hero and. The people wou and I was feeling terrible about my situation with my with my. With. My family that they didn't they didn't appreciate me and so I wanted them to hear me say that that I. That I'm not I'm not selfish and I'm I'm I'm not a e Ego centric person and I probably maybe the jokes show says us thinking about that sentence when I'm when a stranger I will bend over backwards his show them I'm not the person my family said I Like. A decent metaphor for what sent up comedy is you're talking to strangers and you you're in this joke spending twenty one minutes like going out of your way to be like I'm not this other type of person. Yeah. The State of the state abbreviations joke. which we almost talked about, which gets talked about a lot which it felt like the. Height of your ability as a comedian he has in terms of just ability but this to me felt like the most you joke Oh yeah, it's the it's probably my best joke. It's not. It's not as popular as some of the other ones. Yeah. Hat maybe maybe because of where I did it or the timing or the fact that Patton Oswalt didn't go on facebook and rave about it. When did you realize this show is saying this is who I am before today. I think as I was writing it I was saying I. Can get I can get everything. About me into this into this joke but I also think that I've tried to do that with with most joke since I since I first started but it's like a, it's a cheat because I don't. Until recently, I didn't want to tell you anything about me I wanted to keep it to myself but I want you to know these things were going to like the the last Colbert show I did I talked about all these lazy things in my life but what I really was saying, but I didn't have the confidence was I'm so sick I really depressed. I'm very sad and I can't function is interesting because I heard someone referred that says like. Colbert talked about depression I. was. Mentioning a depression that clear who know and people? Which I think is it ends up being savvier because people get it who get it and then Like Oh, this is just a funny to get it to I also lazy. Yeah. Yeah. That's what my my my friend said that that you to be explicit about being depressed in the special. Yeah. You can't just say that you were because some people will interpreters. He's Lazy Yeah I mean especially for people who? Are depressed, they will appreciate it. Yeah. Exactly in that is had no idea how many of us there? As a person who writes jokes it is interesting that the jokes told you. This is what they wanted from you. It's like you're like Oh you do not go into the joke me like this is where I'm going to talk about mental illness for the first time. so often on this show. I often try to find ways to ask people to very simple question of do they think himself as an artist crafts person What is your sort of history with internal debate of clearly being person who cares who's craft is the way that they? Get to their whatever the place that art is the idea of when I when I started to think of myself as an artist that that was it. That was a switch and I I can remember the the. The inspiration I got at an and I'm not sure where I saw this painting by Edwin Hubble it could have been the Guggenheim it could have been the Moma but I saw it and there was a splotch of white paint on a light pole a globe. streetlight and. I said Oh he he thought about that splotch of white paint a lot. There are a lot of other areas on this painting that he that he made choices on and it was while I was writing this this joke and I thought I. I'm I'm I'm making something and there's not the same. It's more of a collage than it is a painting but I to be meticulous in in choosing the right. The right things to overlap and to do with this with this joke because there's a, there's a theme and. The thing that I. I hope people understand is that. These, these things you have to do intentionally. For years will eventually become things you do off handed in onstage without really really thinking about it. So so I don't consciously say I I need to be Staccato here. There's no, there's no formula to it and that's probably why you. Won't be able to write a joke anytime soon because they're the it's it's it's a lot of instinct and and. Just repetition and getting on stage every every night I don't. I would say if you had a choice between getting on stage and writing I would say get on stage but but there's a there's a correlation. When you get on stage it is writing. Yes it is. Yes. Exactly. Exactly and get on stage. Yeah right and that were part of the part of the tip when once you get to the point where you can write quote unquote right on stage you're you're really in a great position. Yeah but it doesn't come overnight. In general, for thing. Like this, how do you know a joke is done? And especially because I maybe it wasn't I mean heard a interviews. You're unhappy with the special no no the the audience really wasn't that crazy about it that night and and I'll never understand what the what was what was on and I'll bet you. They'll say they had a wonderful time and yeah, and they laughed throughout it but I I heard better reaction. To it and does that make you think the joke the jokes were not ready because there's an audience that was not responding the ways other audiences did. They were just wearing bullet-proof I guess yeah. Yeah which is which is fine now but it took years of of thinking about it and and therapy and introspection and and. And Anti depressants to to get to a point where I where I think that if that would happen again I would I would say that would be fine remembered. Mitch Hedberg wife saying that he wasn't crazy about his special that made him. So famous central presents and it's it. It happens I I've heard that from other comedians that they say, yeah this thing that made me so so popular didn't really play that while on the Roma I will say that the the state abbreviations joke played. Okay in the room that day but. Not as well as things that nobody paid attention to yeah. I better sets elsewhere with with. Less less popular jokes. So I I will say that that the joke is finished when you leave on a on a laugh and it's an it's strong hopefully, it's not uh, hopefully, it's not a callback. Because that seems to too easy. But I I remember reading the The the Dante Club and one of the characters in the Dante club this poet named Lowell said that poetry you right a hundred poems forever you good one and you can never find an ending feel the same way about jokes I read one hundred jokes every good one and it's so hard to find an ending. So talking about the tips beyond of why are you doing it? What is it? You know you talked about you and you've talked about to sort of after this special. You had a hard time going back on stage. Yeah. Oh my word. Yeah I mean and you moved out of New York and then yeah and. Then have moved back to new. York you've now has I think you've talked about ninety minutes at your touring with about depression. Yeah. So beyond sort of why you're doing the tips now, what does it mean to your relationship to yourself as saying that you can do the tips now the tips came from a women on. December thirty first last year I became Vegan for new years and this year I wanted to do something and so I had had a lot of coffee I. Remember I feel like a God when I'm drinking coffee in the morning and I and I was really jazzed and I said to my. Girlfriend and I said, what do you think if I tweeted out comedy tips and she said I, think the people would love it and I said, all right. Then I just I just tweeted out starting tomorrow I'm to write until I didn't realize every already. I only had one. Listen to your shots and write down what you said and I tweeted out there. But also I think subconsciously I, hope part of it was. This guilt that I have over and the gratefulness. I. Have over this career that I've been able to build. Fortunately and feeling better that I often work with convenience when. On the road and I one thing I try to do is get their videos to booker for. CONAN. Who who is is very generous with watching people that I've recommended. But the other thing I was thinking was I often say to them I say, I wish I had the kind of power that it would take to give you career because you're so talented and and so part of it was I don't really have the. Time because I'm writing so much when I'm on the road, that's my best time for writing during the day and also I can tell you everything I know about combination about two hours would love to be able to do that and then and then decide idea came to me. Thank. Thank goodness and so I've been been doing that. Yeah. The other thing is it holds me accountable because I can't tell everybody to right and not. About my own writing and also it makes me hold myself to a higher standard because people are going to say, this is the guy who's telling everybody how to write jokes. So. So I have to I have to be on point with my with my stuff. So what an mean as a standup has been doing at twenty, twenty, five, twenty, six years what does it mean figuring out for finding your voice I think yeah, I think that really wasn't people will say Oh, Gary, you had a and you sounded like this for a long time but then that may have been the the the case but I, didn't I didn't feel that way I felt I was just writing joke to joke, and now I feel like I have A. For lack of a better term a formula. Yeah. Yeah. Intention it's like doing this on purpose. Yes. Not Not. It's I mean like if the jokes are in writing you, you're writing the jokes like this joke many ways led you to how to write this type of Joseph's absolutely. Yeah. So that's means it's time for our final segment, which is the laughing around. It's like a lightning. Comedy. Laughing Room. Oh, I like it. Thank you. You're in the minority. Do you have a joke like street joke favorite. These. Two Jews in front of a firing squad and one of them says to the to the manage the firing squad. Can I get a blindfold and then his friend says Murray don't make trouble. Do you have a joke that you wish you could steal in in in a way which is another dimension where no one will know because this joke is just it's your exact same like but you have this joke Oh Mitch Hedberg 's do defraigne yeah frames yeah people are missing. Joke. Never worked you kept on trying you think it's so funny and never work to a point where you could not put it in a set but you'll go to grave being like this is really really funny. Yeah. I think the story of the teacher who had the class vote on whether I should stay after school someday I'll make make it work we met. Recently at the, we also met very briefly like thirteen years ago. University of Maryland when you're doing orgasm Oh gosh, I, don't remember any of it what you remember. I just remember having. Such a hard time with that with that tour because I was. I was in a similar state of mind as as I was after this last special in that I had just come off last comic standing and I was touring and I couldn't come up with my next round of good jokes and in front of. Basketball Arenas was not the place to try them out and so I was I felt very I also felt like I was a satellite. Yeah. I know Mark Martin talks about that being a satellite comic I was a satellite comic of of the biggest. Comedian at the time and at the time very few ever returned to that to that level. So it was very it was it was hard. It was like I. I don't want to say I was Scotty Pippin. Steve Kerr somebody on those Chicago Bulls teams who was a really I was a good basketball player but I was playing with Jordan? Yeah. Yeah and so nobody really cared mean I. don't remember Jokes Deigned by remember you did the Cookies Joe Oh. Cool. Thanks man. That's it. 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Episode 16: Produce

Inside Trader Joe's

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Episode 16: Produce

"Here's a preview of what we are producing for. I see what you did. That was a good one nice for this episode of inside Trader Joe's from field to four. I'm all things produce. I'm thinking about berries and stone fruits. What else is big in the summertime fresh fix dear? Everybody eats Shishido peppers. They're great. What I've learned is? Don't look at the weather out before you go to bed. You'll sleep from the trader Joe's mothership in Monrovia California. Let's go oh inside trader. Joe's I'm Tara Miller the director of words and phrases and clauses and I'm Matt Islam the Marketing Product Guy. This is our first ever episode about produce at Traderjoes. We didn't even have a produce department when trader Joe's was born then from humble beginnings. We've grown oh I see what you did there and we're very proud of our citrus trysts impairs and apples and squash other fruits and our vegetables or even more popular they all taste great which is important. We know that but there's a lot you may not know about the produce you find a trader. Joe's Hi I'm Jack and under category manager for produce for trader. Joe's basically I'm all things produce the decisions we make. How do we keep it fresh? We get better quality and we were thinking about going to our Boston Office to speak with Jack and that's where he's based ace but we were able to get him to come back and visit us here at the mothership instead welcome back. Jack always agreed to come here for the first time. I didn't have to use G._P._S. to get to the office from the Hotel Nice. How long have you worked in the produce business? I got a job at a local supermarket sixteen years old and one of my first jobs when they gave me was stocking the baby food and you know baby food way back when they come knows all those little gerber baby jaws and I wasn't very good at it. 'cause you'd reach you. Pull them out. You drop it on the floor and it would break well. Luckily for me. The baby food sexual is right next to the produce section. Protozoan is the took pity on me took a liking to me one of the other and he said come on over you can work with Wpro News crew. You're all produce the category manager. How long really have you been at the front of the produce piece the less to twenty eight years or so give or take we need to go then in now so something from then as compared to something now a big difference? What was it like twenty eight years ago? What is it like now? No bag salads didn't exist. We had to wash lettuce. Imagine the struggle that's right. It was real in these little ten degrees do think more people league more of those leafy Greens now because Oh yes way more I mean let's face it years ago. If you didn't like iceberg lettuce you pretty much out of luck. People want produce a chase good. When we first started it was mostly? What's shipped well? What didn't go bad quickly? We also those cucumbers coveting Greece. It'll because that we we could hold them in the back room. A long time and now people want produces fresh. There's a product idea. We're not GONNA pursue. Cucumbers covered in grease. It's just not GonNa do that. The law would eat so by day is finding that truck getting that delivery there on time picking get fresh. <hes> you know whether impacts produce unfortunately sometimes positively sometimes negatively lots of times. You'll get a call from the strawberry vendors saying Oh my God we can't get into fields. It's raining can't pick strawberries when it's raining if you packed them when they're wet they tend to Bruce. Cruise and the container go bed so lots of times we have to wait until the field dries out so that could be the difference between going into a trader Joe's on Thursday and finding strawberries or not finding strawberries because it rained on Monday in the strawberry field. What I've learned is don't look at the weather the APP before you go to bed? You'll sleep some thinking about the map. I'm picturing this in my head. All the stuff winds up in our stores which happened to be in the U._S.. But you're looking outside of that. We saw is product from around the world. Wherever we think we can get the very best has quality at the time of the year? If it's summer down south it's winter maybe up here to get grapes to US stores. Every day fifty two weeks a year they come from Chile that come from Peru they come from Argentina in the wintertime Mexico California in the summertime <music>. I'm customers have come accustomed to having items in the stores year round. You can't get a local Nanna Bananas. Don't grow in the United States right so if you want a banana you have to find it somewhere else and bring it here. How do we know where are those products are coming from? Every Roddick gets delivered twelve warehouses. Every day has has people work the finding where it came from. We don't buy from terminal markets where we don't know where that products come from. What's the terminal market? It sounds like the end of the line nine. You're right is when when supplies don't have a home for their for their goods it goes to the terminal market. There's a big one in New York. There's one there's a big. One in Boston is a big one in L._A.. And we don't buy from them because again. We lose control over where it's been where it's been harvested. I was said we're loyal to a supply we pay a fair price for the product we become very desired account and we can leverage that into getting things that we want like social responsibility. It's a big problem in the in the produce industry the easy solutions but you WanNa make sure that you're dealing with companies that treat their workers feel. I love discovering new things in the produce case even new varieties of apples <music>. I think honey Chris was the one that really set everybody. Everybody excited very difficult. Apple to grow very expensive to grow gives you pool yields and you heard in the industry you want me to plant these. Am I gonNa Make GonNa make any money on these and boy. That's a wonderful that's wonderful apple. It's now a number one selling F it gave grows confidence quote and find new varieties ventured into this new era where patenting holding a patent for a type of produce is becoming really important. These these varieties are now controlled like intellectual property like supply for OPALS. We sell a lot of Opel apples. It's delicious apple. Seattle Looks Looks Nice. Forget very difficult to grow and they have an exclusive on so what supplies the looking to do is saying. Hey I've got something really special and you can you can get it from me. I think it encourages companies to try new items all right Jack. Let's see how will you know your apples. Okay this little game. We like to call. How do you like them? Apples Jack was just made that up all right so I'm going to say a characteristic and you're gonNa tell me which Apple Boca fits that characteristic okay. Let's start with crunchy. That's easy honey crisp hundred yes. I agree I'm with you. That's my favorite apple. Okay sweet who is a traditional. One Fuji's very sweet been around long time but there's a new variety Kikuchi said very very sweet really popular. How do you spell that K? I K you if I you say kids love them. You're going to say Galas Mulu. The road smaller sized not too sweet to pretty good crunch tart. Granny Smith Yellow s an Opel apple right something really red. Red But not red delicious that would be N._B._A.. Apple Green the grannies you real classic Green. Sometimes they get a little blush on them certain times of the year but blushing granny's all different episodes different episodes Jack. You're kind of mentioning off Mike that you get a lot of feedback from stores who are hearing from customers wondering why we don't sell things by the pound and wondering if they're getting a good deal paying on an individual basis basis. I think a lot of customers question why the industry standard is by the pound. It's mostly really to get them to buy more or we. We really feel it's best to be up front with our customers and let them know what they're paying for product right off the bat. I use the example. We'll have a customer who is thought we were charging too much for honey. Crisp apples is much more reasonable than our competitors but editor sold by the pound in it sounded cheat but boy when you got four apples. You bought a bag of four honey. Kris van was that apple is going to cost almost eight dollars a bag of four apples whereas would cost much less than that and that's something we're very proud of. Obviously we sell a huge amount of produce in our stores. People people keep coming back so we hear things like wow what great values what a great selection but occasionally we hear your produce sucks. What do we do as a company to manage quality control? It starts honestly with picking. We can supply base. That's step one step two. Is You have a good quality assurance team in the warehouse or they look at product is good what I buy. That's a great question. What I what I buy this? We have some great great store people. They really want to do the right thing and one of the things we try to do. Everybody gets a delivery every day. That's that's almost unheard of in the industry is that maybe in some ways a result of just the physical difference I think of a normal grocery restore almost functioning like a little warehouse in the back distribution efficiency. I used to cringe in gas life when I hear that I still cringe now. It's not a good thing and you're right trader. Joe's either by accident or near wisdom you mix it back rooms. Really small cool is really small now. We just don't have room to hold it. It's fresh product picked fresh ship fresh and there's a whole host of things that can go bad some <hes>. Go wrong on you. It's the weather it's the time of year ear. It's how that soil is functioning. It's the transportation and how hot it is. The day that someone is driving down that highway with us produce and that's what we live with every day when you think about all of those pieces that Jack and his team go through every single day to make sure the quality of the produce in our stores stays consistently high. It's pretty amazing to me. Can we talk about the packaging a little bit. We made an announcement at the beginning of the year about changes. We were making too packaging throughout the store and I know that a big piece of <hes> of that work is happening happening in the produce department. We have lots of packaging produce in in the packaging we have. How can it be more environmentally friendly first steps? Was We looked at. Can we sell more products. And why do we sell something packaged. You'll see it in especially in a potato and onion section in our apples we we have more loose apples than we did before we have more loose potatoes and onions. A good example is funny. The things you find we had gal for years. Eight years we sold them in this little pouch and I thought why do we do that probably because that's the way we've always done so what we did was I looked and said what can we just sell a Clova golic loose and what we really found was wow we added a a lot of cost. The cost of getting those little sleaze cost little head of Khad cost putting too little close a guy like in those sleaze added a lot to our cost so now you can go into trader Joe's and you can get a big Clova golic forty nine cents. somethings we need repackaging on. It's hard to sell lose blueberries so we right now. We're testing in some of us. Those two things one is the fiber till was a plastic over out again at some plastic but it's a lot less plastic. You say fiber Labor till describe that what is it but it looks like it's biodegradable composed able and another one is we have a thin plastic more recyclable container with plastic over. It seems Jack that your work in sustainability in ability is is really paying off. We had a goal to eliminate a million pounds of plastic from our stores over this year and we've surpassed that we are on track to eliminate four a million pounds of plastic from our stores in two thousand nine hundred and two and a half million pounds of that plastic has come directly out of the produce section. Po Cool is okay you get to choose one one fruit one vegetable the only things you'll get to have on the desert island. What are they going to be? The visual one is easy. This isn't new item for us but time <hes> this episode comes out. I hope it's going to be in the stores and that's baby cauliflower his a really look like cauliflower this little stock with this feathery top and it has a wonderful flavor. I'm pretty boring when it comes to my fruit but I like my blueberries we do a great job with organic blueberries two pounds every summer. It's like a single engle served pack for the drive home. We have a grow that comes to us. We do it as an opportunity okay. I think we have a jargon alert opportunity here Matt for Opportunity by Grocery Retail. Jargon alert opportunity buys is it needs to be an opportunity for our customers. It's an opportunity for everybody. I mean it's an opportunity for that grower and it's an opportunity for customers to find something new and interesting or a ridiculous value. I think anybody growing anything interesting fruits. It's and vegetables just call Jack. We take we take all I love. That company came to US last year to try this new variety of raspberries. They were very proud of terrific opportunity by sold very well while raspberries are really tough to the handle may be among the toughest things to handle. I think that sounds like an easier opportunity than I'm GONNA pick on. Jerusalem artichokes also known as Sun Chokes emphasis on the choke need idea but you know who wants to eat those apparently nobody we did try that okay. I have to admit we did try them think of artichokes with an F. and that's that's that's sort of what they're known as they do. <hes> cause some distress to certain people for sure the growers of Sancho in America we. I don't like you speaking of opportunities. This episode will launch in the height of summer. I'm thinking about berries and stone fruits. What else is big in the summertime fresh fix we carry them only at the height of the season starts in mid to late July and and they're available for about six weeks slice those figs in half top them with just a little bit of crumble blue cheese and drizzle that with honey and just watch them disappear? I'm already getting e mails from customers anxiously awaiting a win win of. The figs coming this year figs are super tricky to get them just right regular supermax had these enormous produce departments and they got to carry everything every day whether it's really good or not they even carry sunshine one of our values here trader. Joe's were a national chain of neighborhood stores. Oh if you WANNA be a neighborhood store you need items from either locally grown from your region and it's a challenge but we've had some pretty good successes. Colorado has a nice little niche. They grew a number of really nice items Adams. We've got some items grown in Texas Oak Rabin one of our Portland Maine store they want main potatoes same thing with Massachusetts and Rhode Island Grown Rhode Island grows great potatoes they do thanks Rhode Island. The things that are very popular in California may not be popular yet in the Mid West but they will be in this by the same token is items on the east coast so we can that we can move to the west coast. Shishido peppers is a classic example of big on the West Coast Keeble and most of the parts of the country haven't heard of why not dear everybody eats Shishido peppers. They're great but be cautious. Not that cautious. They're not that spicy but one out of every ten might just get you. That's true I always get the bags that are all not all hot one. The things that I find really nice about trader Joe's customers. They like to try new things. Thank goodness they come into trickles to see what's new and different in produce is very hard to be different. You know everybody carries strawberries. Everybody carries. He's blueberries so when you find like she'll pepper. It's really a positive thing for our customers and our customers really respond well to that but pretty soon summer will be over. What's great in the fall? The fruits wins Pumpkins one of the other items that really dominates Jason thoughts in the fall who's Brussel sprouts stocks and you can roast that whole stock in your up and you don't even have to remove them and let's talk about winter produce oranges. We have an illusion variety that we buy direct from approach to supply. He has some very old trees is with the illness varieties and naval oranges grocery retail jargon alert heirloom does heirloom mean a non hybrid is older variety. It's from the original variety like the original variety from somewhere in Asia or just in like Bar Sto naval oranges all came from one naturally occurring mutation where they took it and then from these trees original trees. I Love Pears and I'm worried read about pears. I don't think anybody else likes pairs very much. What's up with pairs? It does have a stigma to have. It's it's considered old people's fruit. Thanks helping like Peninsula pays myself. Some patients can be treated with a CALICO basically keeps them from ripening in storage but we also found is ripe banana well when they came other storage we know used chemical traderjoes. There's nothing better in a really truly privilege ripen Pale delicious. The problem is is it's hard to get them. Cauliflower been around forever so it's almost the same ideas. Your peers was. Oh people vegetables but it's not anymore though the all people know something that's that's the real message. Listen kids. Both fruits and vegetables are increasing in popularity vegetables are increasing at a faster rate. We see that at trader Joe's the people want to cook fresh vegetables when I grew up you steam them to death right or boil them forever and and they will keep you added a lot of butter but carrots have been around forever and for years with declining consumption in popularity now they've actually turned. To quote so we have that product the organic carrots of many colors carrots used to come in all kinds of colors and it was the Dutch that really settled on the orange and orange became the acceptable color for carrots everywhere but these old carrots that are purple and red and sort of fuchsia colored and and orange and white. That's how carrots were up until a few hundred years ago the Dudley tell us about organics in our store. This is is one area where we do not mirror national trends we sell way more organic and then an average supermarket but thirty two percent of our offering is is organics. What you're saying is our customers? They want organic in a lot of instances. We've seen where we you carry both conventionally grown product in organic products over time <hes> the conventional just doesn't sell people Baio Gannex more. What about the idea of less than perfect produce? What happens when something is still good but doesn't really look great? We share that that's a trader. Joe's jogging put we basically donated to food banks. Produce is the number one category of food that we donate. That's really proof of the amazing work that the crew was doing doing at every store every day. Take care of that section to take care of the produce and to help figure out a place for other than the trash. You know it's still usable. It's still valuable. We make sure that it gets to someplace where it can be used either a food pantry career food bank type of place. How do you tell when things are right? I mean everything has everything's different right. Unfortunately it is different for every kind of fruit like berries not gonNA ripe. They are what they might as well eat them day. One not going to change things like cantaloupes will get sweeter if you let them ripen with one Mellon will not pineapples tend not to get sweeter bananas. Obviously everybody knows right but they get the suite of they get. Some people like impeaches really soft other people like peaches kind of firm. If you really like a firm peach you might want to try the white varieties peaches they tend to sweeten up. They have less acids so they tend to taste sweeter when the firm if you really WanNa soft peach cake yellow peach it looked comes into bristle reference to we're counting down the top fruits trader Joe's and we don't stop until we get the number one but first here's a long distance dedication. It is dominated by all right number five number five is probably <hes> ahead one pound two pound organic strawberries number for eighteen months bloopers number three. You know something I went back and I just had his own. I mean like like it's probably like in the top three probably another size of Barry's Avocados <hes> number one and number two. We did one point nine million Avocados this week really winding down. Do you have a favorite produce item at trader. Joe's we have a SOBA noodle kit. I'm a big Fan. It's basically a mix of fresh vegetables with some Soba noodles in an sauce where you can actually stir fry it and it's delicious and Jack how about one more new product we can look forward to and produce. We decided to to branch out a little bit and I've got a southwest sweet potato bowl. It's Vegan. It's got some peppers roasted corn black beans because good the guy or if you had a protein you can make really a the main dish nor the site. I'm glad so that I thought you were GONNA say son. Chokes and I wanNA thank you Jack. We appreciate your time. Thank you and I'm actually glad that you moved on from baby food.

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Trader Joes Reserve Carneros Chardonnay 2019

"Then from cheap wine finder.com with a wine review today from Trader Joe's they actually have some interesting wines right now. There is a deadline blood or they were supposed to be a wine glass. Mostly Cabernet Sauvignon from Napa Valley and covid-19 is kind of shut down restaurants sales and you know, there's the fires out there are doing anybody any favors right now, but that's where we're at. And so they're starting to see and Trader Joe's has a bunch of Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon. This isn't one of them. This is let me grab the bottle so I get it right. It's the Trader Joe's Reserve Chardonnay canero. Snap Valley 2019 lot 204. Keep in mind the 204 cuz there's also a 205 lot 2:05 and I believe that is a different producer Jim. All together. These are small production lines from a high-end growing area. This is a crime chardonnay pinot noir grow name is Richard name the 2019. So too young why not drink and now one but that's fine. Drinking now lines are usually made simply let those grapes shine through, you know, you're you know in not a lot of age and not a lot of this has some but not a lot and it just lets the grapes be nice and juicy and bright and when you have upscale groin area with expensive types with high-end Vineyards will have a young lion that what's the grapes shine through was a very very nice thing. Canaris is half and Sonoma happened. Napa Valley funny thing I'm going to label if it's in the Napa Valley where The Vineyards are that will be on the label. If it's on the snow my side to the second Narrows, you know, I guess that's being Snappy or something to take a sip. It's pretty good stuff. Nick an arrow Southern border even though it's Inland is the San Pablo Bay which is the northern part of the San Francisco Bay which has brings very cold cold pack Waters all the way Inland and you get the breeze as you get your basically on the coast, even though you're Inland and so it's kind of a freak of nature in the truest sense that it makes good wine that The back label said it was made by a good Winery and I couldn't really find an avid Winery but there isn't in the same town. They're from there's an avid Vineyards. Who do I end up, you know the wire in the exact same city, so it might be a part of that and they're high-end producer and I kind of think this wine is from a high-end booster. They bought the grace we can narrow so they made it wherever in Sonoma Coast region because the bottles a heavy bottle when you get these $10.99 off but usually a lightweight Echo bottle so it's less glass and cheaper to transport since it's a lighter weight wage actually has a real Court which you know for it's a line and should have I keep my quirks, but I have a whole bunch of them and it's so rare. It's always these kompas. Some of these plastic things or I don't know that's why I'm you know, you know, you should put screw Tops on if you're going to use these crappy things just put screw times, but this one actually has a very decent quarterback, but young wine one you wouldn't age so sign up like thick cork but it's way better than ninety-nine ninety-nine and Trader Joe's chardonnays normally have so it's need to be ironed grapes from a producer isn't really always that into making value-priced wines. It seems they don't tell you much about these things. You have to guess on what you get off, but that's what I'm guessing. It's from caneros. It tastes really good. It's a young one. Like I said the Young Lions are style. That's another thing and canaris. They don't make you online. This is Page nineteen if they just went in 2018 and made the line little more complicated a little bit longer and Barrel they can sell it for twenty twenty five dollars. You know, why solo / 999 that's one of the things at Trader Joe's Is actually kind of cool for Trader Joe's will give you a drink at now young wine with really upscale grapes. You don't really get that everywhere and that's kind of one of those when they really good things about about you know, people say, oh it's cheap wine iron. You got it all wrong you getting these unique wines up. You can't always get everywhere. So yeah keep that in mind if you if you off at the 205 lot 205 is in your store will like this isn't going to tell you everything this is for the lot 204 but it's really good. If you're into Chardon eight by it off. It's it's plenty good. It's some it's a taste of Carneros grapes that you're not going to get at this price bed. So there you go. So keep it cheap. Children out until next time cuz it's always a next time and she later, bye-bye.

Trader Joe Young Lions producer Napa Valley Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon Trader Joe San Pablo Bay Snap Valley Canaris Sonoma San Francisco Bay Chardon Richard The Vineyards Sonoma Coast Jim Nick Barrel twenty twenty five dollars