5 Episode results for "Tournament College Basketball"
03/12: March 12, 2020 will forever be remembered as the day the NCAA Tournament died
"Dr Gary Parachutes Thursday March Twelfth. Two Thousand Twenty welcome back to the CBS sports eye on college basketball. Podcast where we sometimes discuss Cama fighting and leaky Black Matt. Norlander is here with him. What we thought could happen earlier in the week became official on Thursday at four sixteen. Pm Eastern with an announcement from NCWA president. Mark The two thousand twenty. Ncaa tournament has been canceled. Because our national health crisis specifically the covert team pandemic. The tournament is canceled. Not postponed cancel. It'll never happen. Everybody's season is over all players. Whose Final Year of eligibility is this year. They're done they'll never play college basketball again. Barring some sort of unprecedented ruling from the instability that we might touch on later since Wednesday night. We knew this was a realistic possibility. If not probability still it was jarring to hear to read when it became official norlander. Where were you four sixteen? Pm On march twelfth when the NCAA tournament died. I was in a doctor's office with my two sons and the very minute had happened. My youngest son was being given a STREP throat test. Both of my children have strep throat. My wife Strep throat. I'm going to try and dodge that here. I'm still good and able to do this. Podcast or not even just strep throat. They have strep. And that's a factor with that and so my it. Listen what a crazy couple of months. The past two days have been and you on a personal level. This was just a wild day wife. Ill kids get sick. I'm trying not to get sick. We're hoping I don't know if you heard the whole world sick right. Exactly that's the whole point. You know so things. Get crazy in a hurry. They're gonNA yell at the boys not to touch anything where the doctor's office everything. I'm gloves on Grocery shopping. The whole deal so I'm at the doctor's office and there it goes. It goes down. I was on the phone with our colleague. Dennis Dodd about six minutes before the official announcement was made at that moment dotted talked to a source. It said it was coming within the hour and so I knew I had to hustle up and get out of the doctor's office and get back home and within minutes there. It went as that was happening. Actually was still texting with coaches who were Scr sent a couple of screengrabs. Who were still like? They were working workshop. And how we can make this happen how we can get this done. Postpone this tournament. Let's have may madness. But that was just never gonNA happen here for a number of reasons so much to touch on. Gp It is crazy to me to think that since we last podcast. Did you did an emergency? Podcast Rudy. Gobert now Donovan. Mitchell have tested positive corona virus a CA. A referee in the tournament tested positive. After feeling ill seventy two hours. After working a game you had the domino effects with all the conference tournaments for hot ninety minutes on late Wednesday night. There was legitimate. Fear that Fred. Hoiberg might have it now. Thankfully he didn't and he just has a apparently a pretty rough battle with the flu. So I was. I was in a doctor's office. I presume you were at home. But to everyone that's listening is gonNA probably remember or at least for the short term long term because this is just an incredible day. Where were you when the news came down? I was in my car. I was driving to studio for radio and it was what I was expecting. Obviously not what I was hoping for. I tweeted earlier in the afternoon. Like most people who care about the sport and enjoy it and cover it If there's a way postponed rather than cancelled I would love to postpone rather than cancel and I in that tweet. I acknowledged the logistics are obviously difficult. An and there's all sorts of student athlete things that must be considered. You know way I didn't think it was impossible and I still don't think it's impossible to postpone and play this tournament with these teams somewhere down the road. You would have to make all sorts of concessions probably allow players who had been drafted into the NBA draft to still compete for their teams their schools in this incident tournament. There's a lot of things that have to be done and I was hoping that the NCAA would would move that direction while recognizing that it was probably a long shot and so when I saw the news break via the incident official twitter account disappointed but not surprised disappointed but understanding the truth is the moment Rudy Gobert test positive for corona virus on Wednesday night in the NBA. Suspended it season. At that moment it became more likely than not that the two thousand twenty. Ncaa Tournament would never happen. It became I thought undeniable that the two thousand twenty tournament would not start next week. But the second Rudy Gobert. Gobert tested positive. This thing was basically over. Gp So we finished the podcast on Wednesday. And I want to say I WANNA say within seven minutes of the podcast going into the feed so not right after we were done recording that after I edited produced and uploaded it like Rudy. Gobert tests positive. And I think it was within. I think it was within five minutes the NBA announced. The season was suspended right. It was a historic moment. Frankly and these two days March Eleventh Marquel twenty twenty seismic and like there will be books documentaries thirty for thirty s oral histories. You know they are to come later this year in the years and decades to come because this is unreal. We are at a point now. I can speak specifically to college basketball but like we don't have sports at all. Sports have stopped. They are they are done. I've actually had a few joking texts from friends who are like dude. Like what the hell can I bet on right now like I got nothing? I just want a little bit of juice. It's not there and it's march. So you like the nerves like you're ready for it not there and I'm curious about like what not having sports is going to do to the collective psyche of the country in the coming weeks like even during some of the darkest moments in our in our history over the past seventy years one eleven being the most recent tragedy where we didn't have it for a certain time and then how much sports meant when it came back corona virus and the scarce is not what nine eleven was but the point is there was they were taken away from us and then we were brought back. This is this is there's no MBA for at least thirty days and do the same baseball will do the same. All of this has gone so it's going to be. It's going to be interesting to see just how we go about our days going forward. Gp I mean. We work for a sports company. There's no sports going to be happening right. Now it's going to be all speculation. Shasta well Brinson because our buddies going to be getting on. Nfl preseason stuff in a hurry. Here I mean it's just unreal and I will say this as before we got the pod going and I was prepping. It was like the first fifteen minute moment of my entire day where I wasn't on the phone with the coach or I wasn't on. Hq Wasn't talking to you wasn't with my wife wasn't running out to take my kids to the doctor. Pick up stuff from the pharmacy or anything. It was the first time the entire day where nothing was happening. I was just kind of sitting in silence and I was like. Whoa like it's March twelfth and I was supposed to be at the big tonight. There's no games like there's this there's games on like it feels weird to my body right now to not even have college basketball going on and I bet you gets even weirder in the in the coming days because as you would attest do in plenty of people that are listen to this podcast test to our you know we love the sport and our our body cycles are so accustomed to this like this is. This is the time of year supposed to be the best time of the year. I cannot remember living and not having the tournament okay. I probably didn't pay attention to it at all. From the ages of zero until nine like my first memory was the awesome. Unlv team waking up the next morning. When I lived in Florida and I'm getting ready to go to school. My mom telling me that. Unlv won the National Championship. That's my very first memory of college basketball. Ever since then I love the sport that's taken. There's been a guillotine dropped on the head of all college. Sports College basketball most noticeably so I got plenty more thoughts. Volley it back to you. But it's it's kind of thinking in a little bit here and it's it's weird and a lot of ways and the right thing to do. I will be clear here no choice. This is what had to be done but nonetheless. I think I think everyone's GonNa take a couple of days just getting used to not having tournament and not having sports in general in our lives. It's going to be bizarre. It is bizarre and for most people who enjoy the sport or sports fans or gamblers. It's like a weird thing. There's no basketball game like today. It's supposed to be a busy basketball day tomorrow. A super-busy Basketball Day Saturday busy basketball days. Sunday's selection Sunday brackets. Come out like the sports fans. Gamblers just Americans in general won't have any of that so that's jarring for people like you and I are lives tangibly change like explain to you how my life changed today and. I want to make this about me. This is way bigger but it's just to to sort of. Whoa what I was supposed to tomorrow. Get on a plane flying into New York beyond student be in studio Saturday Sunday. Cbs Sports Network Fly back home Monday. Say like wear my kids as I walk in the door. Get back on a plane. Tuesday fly back to New York. Speak TO AT and T. employees in Manhattan on Wednesday morning back in studio Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday first and second round fly home the following Monday here Monday Tuesday fly back on Wednesday in studio Thursday. Friday sweet sixteen Saturday Sunday elite aid fly home on that Monday flight. Atlanta on that Thursday. We've got practice schedules and all that stuff on Friday. The Games on Saturday Taylor Swift on Sunday national championship game on Monday. And then I'm back home. That's the that's that was my schedule and just like that it's over. I'm not going anywhere. Jalen Conrad is just over. Like I don't have to wake up in the morning and do the top twenty five. It's it's like it's like the Tournament College Basketball. Thana snapped like literally just like that. It's over it's it's like I was supposed to do power. Rankings ON THE COURT. Report that like all that stuff. It's just it's just done in fact a little teaser for the audience. Here I was like holy crap. We gotta do player of the year stuff. Now so we're going to do that A. Monday. We probably podcasting chat about that next week. The top twenty five and one. That's a valid point. There's like other general stuff. I won't bore the audience with to put that you have to do in terms of writing behind the scenes stuff like leading up to selection Sunday. It's just done. We're not doing it. It's just about this. We were getting ready to do podcast every day during tournament days. That's correct Let the let the audience now. And now they're going to be extra bummed but yeah let them know what we were going to do. I was going to be doing podcasts next Thursday night Friday night Saturday night Sunday night every night of the simply tournament. I was going to be recording a new episode of the College Basketball Podcast. Now that's over. There are no gains My suitcase is sitting in the floor next to me in my office because it is always sitting in the floor next to me in my office and tomorrow at some point. I will take everything out of it because I keep certain things in it like my because I don't. I'm not wearing dress shoes when I'm here at home. Where am I going? My dress shoes stay in there just certain things. I always thought you podcast with dress shoes on. So that's a that's a surprise. I barely have clothes on what I'm popular and so I don't you get the Flying Douglas. The Flying Dutchman in your head I saw your eyes I saw your eyes twinkle when I sit up. Barely wear anything when I'm podcast so the suitcases sitting here and that's sort of where it goes during the season 'cause I am never I'm never more than a couple days away from leaving again. That's my life from late December through April. I am never more than a couple of days from leaving again whenever I walk into the store. I'm always about to be gone again. And now it's over you can go delta right now my my log in now. I'm giving my password but if you logged in. There are no trip schedule. I had to cancel everything today. That is like on a personal level. Ah Pretty Wild thing because most other sports that people cover on a full-time basis who have jobs like ours. They are suspended. Acl suspended the suspended. Major League baseball suspended. But it's all coming back. You know those guys will in Gals will pick up where they left up. We're done our season is over. It's a little bit like I thought about this today. Remember when you were in college or you're in high school and you might think to yourself at some point. Hey you got one month left. Yeah you know there's one month left and you're like you could sort of see the excited but you still gotta go tomorrow. You still got to go the next day. Imagine being that person and you're like we got one month left we got one month left and then boom four sixteen pm. Somebody says you know what it's over what you don't have to go there tomorrow is you. Don't have to ever go. It's over what it is a pretty jarring thing what we experienced today. It is the jar expected but still jarring expected but still back in our group chat. I asked for over unders. You didn't provide one I guess was four eastern on the button so sixteen minutes laters when it to win it. Drop there and would have loved known the conversations as they evolved because the day itself. I mean I'd say this. So like twelve o five or twelve ten last night. Did my final hugh hidden tonight and at that moment we knew that Fred Hoiberg had gone to the hospital but it was just before he actually had an update that he did not have corona virus. So like listen. If you need me again we find out. This is bad. I'm around I'll stay up until one. Am If we need me for video. I wound up standing up until about twelve fifty because at like twelve thirty we. We knew what was happening there but I went to bed thinking okay. Actually I had. I had a couple texts on season's over so one of them being from Holtman and at the time Holtman last night He didn't think that they were playing the big ten tournament. And he at that point he had resigned himself to no NO tournament as inevitability. I heard from plenty of other coaches. That were getting to that point at that once. We didn't even know what had happened with. Warburg with that. What's happening in terms of how he looked? I think advanced quickly and that's happening in the midst of all the NBA stuff. That had been going on and you wake up and you have more leagues more VINCIC Postponed to Cetera et CETERA. But then we wake up and I'm like okay. Well I got to figure out like you know what what what exactly is GonNa get postponed on top of all this my wife exceptions like I feel. I just feel awful. Have to go to the doctor. And I'm like Oh my goodness it just adds another element to the entire day so she goes watch. The kids thankfully reports back then. It's that had a strap but then I'm reaching out to figure out the eight ten and the Big East and the SEC and all these other leagues and it's like Nope they're on. They're on their own and then and then it changes in a hurry in a hurry. It changes with with a lot of these leagues and the Big East. It doesn't change the Big East continues to get ready to play. Its Games and I wonder if what we saw happen on Thursday perish might wind up being something that gets the instability and its leagues in order in the future for any event. That could come close to what this has been or anything else in that while eventually. These conference tournaments did shutter. It wasn't all at once somewhere on separate days as we mentioned. I think to podcasts ago. The Ivy League well ahead of the curve. In fact we went from everyone killing the Ivy League to that being. That's how we're doing things in this country everywhere in a matter of what the smartest for reason I know and I even had. I had a few coaches that were like these up any think. They're better than us. People think they got it figured out. Well yeah actually. They did they did. And for the most part coaches I will say that. I spoke with their understanding frustrated. We get a little into a little bit of that later. But the point I'm making is because you have all these different conferences with different interests in different situations with all these buildings like the was the final one. It was the last one in fact how about this? Gp Trivia Time. Okay let's go. Let's go with a trivia time right now. Who won the final college basketball game of the two thousand nine hundred twenty twenty season? Who won the Final College Basketball Game of the Nineteen Twenty Season Final College? Basketball game the season. Who Want it? I'M GONNA go with Cao. No it's not cal. Your answer is Morgan. State Women's team beating Delaware state sixty four sixty three in the MIATA tournament officially announced that it was done with a minute. Change to go in that game and so your final college basketball result and the Morgan state bears sixty four sixty three in a barn burner over the Delaware State Hornets. I will also note since we're on the topic of the Big East that Golden Gate. Mike has the winner of the men's the men season okay. Thirty four twenty nine over Creighton. Saint John's and Golden Gate. Mike walking out with a win. Its way it should be game stopped at halftime because the big east had already tipped off while it's it's playing for about a forty minute span there. It's just a it's a rough look for the league while the big ten's like getting we're done. Acc Yeah we're done. Pac twelve out out west. Yeah we gotta be done a see. We're done as well one after another after another and you got Alexander trying to make a bucket out of it going up against Golden Gate Mike and the and the and the Janis there and then the shot of it is so depressing appropriate and hilarious of the Saint. John's Mascot in the stands did you. Did you see I I tweeted? Of course I just like first of all. What is that thing? Is that what a red storm is supposed to be? And it's got the person inside they gotta be able to see through. It's it's you know. It's got this enlarge mouth and it's just like this look of shock the camera the camera zooms out on it. It is unbelievable. I was actually. I needed that laugh today when I got it when I saw it and then later on when I came back to me I was like I need this. I need this in my life so I wonder I'll get back to you but I wonder if because of all this stuff like if somehow the ancillary might be able to get its house in order just a little bit more because all that stuff I think played a part in why the in civil actually took as long as it did to announce it because that was the last year to drop by one o'clock eastern. Everything was done and it was like. Okay Wins This. Tournament can officially get canceled. We were just staring on our watches waiting for a few hours. Imagine you're Creighton and you have to play a basketball game in Ronan virus pandemic and your opponent is Golden Gate Mike Inside Madison Square Garden. What unbelievable and all as a site a serious I know. I didn't realize it still pointed out on twitter rudy. Gobert was in the garden within the past seven or eight days or something like that and like who knows if he had it interfered. Didn't but you would hope that the people in charge of the biggies tournament between go bear being diagnosed with this and like okay. Well he player was he actually in the building at this point. 'cause they say you can have the virus as ten twelve days without even showing symptoms of having it. That was what surprised me after the fact but yes CREIGHTON certainly up against it. Golden Gate. Mike shouts to you forgetting. I don't think I don't know if register says it probably doesn't register as an official in but you know what on this podcast? It does on this. If we can ignore San Diego state laws we just give Los Angeles Michael Win. You are correct. So far as I'm concerned. Two Thousand Nine hundred twenty six and we'll be remembered for two things. One San Diego state going undefeated and to Golden Gate Mike beating Creighton on what ended up being the final day. This easier absolutely absolutely correct. Go ahead to podcast again. We recorded three podcasts. On winds we did a little after midnight. Yeah it was both of us and then another around seven or so eastern. That was both of us. And then I did another one solo about fifteen sixteen minutes just a few hours later because as norlander pointed out we recorded on Wednesday night while the situation in Oklahoma City was unfolding by the time it published it the NBA season had been suspended. I felt like that was going to play a role in what happened with college basketball. And so I decided to jump back on record another fifteen sixteen minutes but in the one we recorded even before that I remember Standing Orlando there since he has made actual intros built around incorrect predictions that I made one that I made last night. I said tonight is going to be the last night we watch basketball with fans in the stands and that ended up being true. That is now. I know that we did get a game at Madison Square Garden. They had like friends and family. You know it was a select few people and I will say this people wonder. What's IT GONNA look like on? Tv It looks fine on TV. I totally agree with you by the way because I tuned for that very reason I was like you know what this is. Not really that bad overall did they didn't even look that different. It didn't and I think they probably do some stuff with the lighting but I agree with you right. Yeah so if you just turn that game on. And there's only five hundred people there the way they shot it and the way they push people down to the first few rows it made it look like it looked normal on TV and so I think that's just something to remember going forward if we ever end up in a situation where we are playing quote unquote without fans. You can still make it look good on TV. It did not look like a basketball game being played in an empty arena if you just turned on F s one and watch that either way so less than I was like listen. I don't think we're playing basketball anymore. With with fans in the stands and after the Rudy Gobert situation happened. I came back on and I said I'm now at a point that I don't. I don't think we're gonNA play the NCAA tournament next week and the reason is very simple. You know if you go back 'cause 'cause I think I mentioned at the top of this the moment rudy. Gobert tested positive the NCAA tournament was over. And I know those two things aren't technically connected but they are connected. One did lead to the other because what happened. Go bear is that once. He tests positive the way doctors in this country. Medical officials in this country are insisting that we deal with this pandemic minimize the damage minimize the spreading. Is that if you are in known direct contact with a positive with a person who tested positive you have to self quarantine for fourteen days. So what happened? Is the moment go bare test? Positive the Utah Jazz team. Have to be quarantined. Okay now any team that played Utah in. Recent weeks has to be quarantined recent days at least and so it ended up with four or five different. Nba teams being quarantined well the NBA at that point. It's not even like well. What should we do? You can't play the Games. You can't play your schedule. Somebody was scheduled to play Utah. This weekend somebody was scheduled to play the cavaliers this weekend. Whatever teams had to quarantine because Rudy Gobert and their their their interactions with Rudy. Gobert in recent days somebody had if they can't play. You can't play your schedule and so it's just it's over and like you said the NBA is not even GonNa look at restarting for at least thirty days so all you had to do was look at that and then apply it to college basketball over the next few days we were expected to have commerce tournaments happening all over this country one team after another another everybody playing. It defies logic to think nobody is carrying the corona virus. Who's going to be playing college basketball right? But let's forget about that because the numbers are too big. Let's just focus. Strictly on the incident play tournament. Let's say that they decided you know what we're going to go forward with it. Even if they cancel the conference tournaments we will go forward with the Internet. Which by the way is sort of the order in which this happened. They didn't cancel everything. They cancelled the conference tournaments. And actually some leagues like the SEC gave their auto bids to the regular season Champs and said this is our automatic bid to the tournament so that point at least in theory. I didn't think it was going to happen. But in theory we were GonNa maybe play the instability tournament next week. So you got sixty eight teams getting ready to play next week and by the way health officials have already told us is going to get worse before it gets better. We don't know how much worse but definitely worse before it gets better. We're already at a place where the NBA doesn't feel comfortable playing in jail. Mlb basically everybody else. You've got sixty eight teams in a field next week at any point if any player test positive for corona virus. It's over all I. I know this sounds excessive. But it's not once any player test positive. It's over so let's just take some very basic numbers sixty eight that's how many teams thirteenth scholarship players on each team. Some have more some have less. Thirteen's a reasonable number. That's eight hundred. Eighty four student athletes if one of them test positive. Your event is over. If it's player the Dukes Entire Team and coaching staff has to. Oh and by the way. It's more than eight eighty four because we're talking coaching staffs managers. Everybody who is a part of this thing? One person test positive everybody on the team has to be quarantined and once it doesn't have to happen before next. Tuesday. It could happen the day of the sweet sixteen dukes in the sweet sixteen Vernon Carey tested positive for corona virus. It's done do. Coal Team has to be quarantined. What do you do can't play? So is the ultimate ultimately the NCAA tournament champion. Just that the team that stayed healthy nonsensical it was inconceivable to think you could get through a three week tournament without having what happened to the NBA Wednesday night happening to you at some point and so once you conclude reasonably that you're not going to be able to complete your tournament without this type of incident. Then you can't even start your tournament to me. I thought this the moment it happened. I said it last night the second rudy go bare tested positive in the NBA suspended. Its season the incident play tournament. There was no scenario where it was going to be played next week. And here we are. You know I've been thinking there's just a lot. It's GonNa hit me again like a week when it's supposed to be the first Thursday of the tournament. But just you know there's going to be just awesome moments vaporise from the universe. There's just never coming you know just incredible all-time moments just not going to be there. They they exist imagination. What what could because thought extent of that? But what we're GONNA say. Well I hear you. It's going to suck for unify and every everyone. I'm just saying you know I'm not disagreeing with obviously had to be canceled but you know I. It sucks everybody. It sucks for people who have jobs like us just fans Who who just love to eat it up Gamblers who needs something to get through the day but more than anything. It sucks for the players and the coaches because when this got announced earlier today I couldn't help but think of being at the tournament earlier this week two nights ago and I watched a school play a game where it was do or die. You win it. You go to the civil tournament for the first time since two thousand one you lose it you don't you got Joe Mahalick. The head coach trying to get hostile to the tournament for the first time since he's been there and you've got a locker room Phil Players. None of whom have been to the instability tournament. Some of whom are seniors. So let's take away. Pemberton for instance. He's hostile. Second leading score after the semifinals. I told this story I did the post game interview with him on. Cbs Sports Network. And I asked him the simplest. Most basic sideline reporter postgame question. You could ask Your school hasn't been to the tournament since two thousand one. This is your last opportunity to get there. What would it mean to you to win tomorrow night and get there at just? The thought of detailed up apologized to me for getting emotional but just the thought of getting to the instability tournament meant that much to him. A lifelong dream now. He's one win away from it but if he doesn't win he'll never achieve that dream it's over and then they win the game and they're down at the half they win the game and then they have real tears again. Tears of joy tears still and less than forty eight hours later. They find out that dream they actually did achieve it. They'll never get to realize it. They'll never get to play right like I feel bad for the duke players as well because presumably Vernon Carey will now never get to experience the tournament knee. Otherwise would've and I felt awful for the Kentucky players as well because presumably Therese Maxi. We'll never get to experience the instantly tournament otherwise what of but it's especially difficult for the seniors who have been doing it for four years at a place where you're not guaranteed ever get something like this and they worked in the worked and worked and they earned it and then it's ripped away from them ripped away from them for understandable reasons. This is what needed to be done. I credit the incident blamed for doing it and leaving literally hundreds of millions of dollars on the table. I assume. Oh Yeah. Gpa like in regard to that so threat. Even you know the evening here you've had Players like of managers significance across the pond In a PL test positive corona virus in the financial fallout is is a massive like billions of dollars globally. But I wanted to extend the thought that you had there. Because here's here's what I was thinking about this evening later this afternoon mentioned the coach and the players and that's true but I also think the fans shouldn't be short shrift it here because they all fall into the same bucket to me In certain ways. Because you know OBI top and put so much into this season. And it's got to be heartbreaking for him and his teammates there are Dayton fans that don't know in their life if there ever getting something like this again obi top and is going to absolutely have. He'll look back fondly at his time at Dayton and have a huge regret over what could happen but Dayton fans. You don't know when you're getting this again. So I thought about OBI Anthony Grant this amazing season man like incredible. I'm telling you right now. He's getting my vote for player of the year. It's not it's not an easy call. It's a close call. Ob Top to me is the twenty nine hundred twenty national player of the Year in College Basketball. I think about him. Think about caches Winston. All he went through and what this month could have been for him and his teammates and that Michigan state community and what they might have been able to do. Now that Michigan State was coming around and playing some best basketball. I think about the Fan. Base is the coaches and the players. At Rutgers and Penn State Rutgers has not been to the tournament since ninety-one Penn State. You get there if you're lucky once every decade and you were both heading there in my opinion locks to be there and now this is taken away and again like if Pike a hell of a coach and if you told me a year from now he was getting rutgers to the tournament. I believe you but it's rutgers okay you just don't know and that's such a twist of the knife when something like this happens. It's not the same as if you're Michigan State Fan. Broadly speaking because you get there just about every year zag you get there just about every year and I understand if you're a fan. Hey we had the best offense in college basketball we thought we could the WCTC as a conference. Saint Mary's Byu Gonzaga. First Time. And I don't know how long the League is actually legitimately capable of getting to the sweet sixteen I got more for your GP Maryland and their fans desperate to fire mark. Turgeon in your heart. You know that this was a special team. The best you've had since he's been there and it. It measured up to be the best in the national title to and now you don't even get to see if they can lose in the second round so you can be even more pissed at margin and that's a real that's a real crime. Illinois I I like Illinois as a sweet sixteen team I think at a Minimum Kofi. Coburn tremendous player. I would assume you one of the all-time stones guys this season in college basketball. That's done creighton. Sets up as a two seed loses a golden gate. Mike Season's done and what will it be a year from now? Blue Jays fans those fan bases having their teams in places where they're not normally baylor falls in line there as well exceptionally good. This season had had some slipping as of late. But what if Baylor won the big twelve tournament you know could have been that one seed maybe made a final four a career change in kind of month? Potentially for Scott Drew Florida state in. What was a bizarre scene gets handed the trophy by John? Swallow I as as we have these. Massive Corona virus fears and awareness. You've got like ninety. Five people crowded around each other on the middle of the Court at the ACC tournament with Florida State. Getting a trophy. That was just a weird look overall but FSU certainly could have been who knows Leonard Hamilton. Going to have another chance. The man looks forty five. He's in his early Seventies. Is he going to have another chance to make a final four run like this? It was Colorado's best team in a long time. Marcus Howard could have been a top. All Time Scorer in college basketball had he had the opportunity to play three four five even more games instead. He finished his twenty first on the all time list with two thousand seven hundred and sixty one points eight behind. Jj redick and he's just above the late. Great Hank gathers just a few more free GP. I was curious just to see what Virginia would do in a year after winning the national title. And this is also weird. Virginia's it's IT'S GONNA be a two year reigning champion with one National Championship. Just bizarre. I wanted to know what they were going to do. I wanted to see how a bad offense and a great defense was gonNA handle the kind of opponents it was going to get Luca Garza potential. I player of the year. Maybe somebody who's you think ours should have over the top and more power to Ya. He's got a great case. We're not going to see him. There's a lot of moments we won't get providence. Ucla Texas those schools roaring back to get into the tournament. Incredible midseason turnarounds in just poof. It's gone there. Were so many stories on top of what you mentioned like with Hofstra and I think about like Robert Morris tiny schools like the Andy tool getting back to the tournament. It's Gone Stephen F. Austin winning at Duke earlier this season if it gets in the tournament is it the Cinderella. Darling is at the sheikh upset. Pick we're never going to know about Anthony Lamb who? I just wrote about early this week. In Vermont they were in my opinion they were tuning in tuning and GP to be a thirteen. C could get a really big nice upset. So all those things kind of go through my brain San Diego State. Another one easily undefeated season. What are you GONNA do? You make a great tremendous run and that's just to name a few to me. This tournament was loaded with so many awesome stories and potential in this unusual year. And now it's gone. And that's what I heard from. So many coaches will like. There was a lot of optimism. Like a Lotta let down because I thought and this is maybe the nature of it being taken away from you and just trying to look on the bright side of life but it was. These guys were so ready and we just so eager for the tournament and we really liked where we were heading. Obviously some of those teams at a loss no matter what that's part of the deal but that was a theme that really shine through consistently with the twelve fifteen sixteen coaches. I talked to Thursday. You feel bad for everybody for different reasons but I will say like at at Kentucky. John Calipari tweeted a long thing earlier. Tonight how he feels what it was like so on and so forth. John Cale GonNa have another awesome team next season. Who's GONNA be on it? I just know it's going to be good right Mike. Francesca same deal like he's going to have another awesome team next season. The ones that I think from a fan perspective where? It's really hard to to get over this. The what if aspect of it is like. If you're dating fan like win at Dayton are you going to be too long winter winter you ever again going to be a exactly rejected one seed with a lottery. Pick National Player of the year leading your team. Like let's be honest. You WANT TO BE HONEST. Probably never do fricken. Brutal for those particular fans in Dayton. Maybe more than any there are few imagined on my little rant there but to me it's like it's Dayton over any one seed OBI top and fricken incredible player. You'll you'll be beyond lucky if you get that again. The next forty years right winner you ever going to have the national player of the year arguably the best NBA prospect in the tournament and and a one seed at Dayton. So if you're dating fan this one woo you never get over it. If you're anthony grant when do you ever have that team again like at Dayton? You just can't go recruit the national player of the year. You have to find him when he's zero star recruit who has a late growth spurt. Like that's how you end up with that Gung Kentucky you could go recruit the future national player of the year at Duke can go recruit the future national player of the year at Dayton. You have to get a guy who was totally off the radar who has to redshirt hits growth spurt. It's such a a perfect storm of everything and it happened. And you don't get to see it through at Baylor. Scott drew ever have team better equipped to make a final four not necessarily a better team but better equipped to make a final four. Because it's not just at Dayton. You're this good and you've got these things going on or at. Baylor you're this good and you've got these things going on. It's your this good you've got things going on. And most of the projected lottery picks are not in college basketball. They're not going to be in the tournament. You're not going to run into a duke team. That's got three top ten picks or Kentucky Team Anthony Davis and Michael Kidd Gilchrist. Those teams don't exist so not only do you have these special teams that have one game after game after game after game. Put yourself in a position to be a one C. A one C that date. That's crazy I want to see that Baylor. That's crazy. Those things were about to happen probably and they were going to happen a year where you weren't going to run into this blue blood monster. I mean. Kansas is the best team in the country on paper but they won't overwhelm you with NBA talent. They might overwhelm you but they're not going to overwhelm you with NBA talent. And so this sets up perfectly like sometimes when you go on radio and these markets whether San Diego Dayton Waco they wanna talk to you about you think. This is a team that get to the final four. They don't even speak about national championship because it seems so outlandish. It's just like do you think we can get to the final four. Do you think the aspects can get there but this is a year where the final four didn't have to be the goal you can genuinely and reasonably go win the whole thing and then boom. It's gone it's over. It is really. It's tough for every fan base right now. Tough for every coach right now. Tough for every play right now. I think especially tough for the fans coaches players connected to the programs that are not historically top shelf programs but found themselves on the top shelf. This season yes and the the low majors is Just it is not guaranteed when you will get back there just is no guarantee of that and you know the low major schools and there are alums of those schools that listen to this podcast and they. You know you're just you're schools are not relevant on a national level and so we all we know almost never talk about you unless we get to Martin and there's a story that crops up you apply to this just as much as particularly weird for teams. I caught the auto bid before all this happened. Hofstra East Tennessee state. We had four H. Q. Earlier in the day you had. What was a weird moment? This was after we podcast it last night when you had Boston. University stunning colgate getting the auto bid and I'm watching the celebrations and it's again just kind of go back to Austria. I'm watching the celebrations like these people have no idea what's going on with Rudy Gobert. Right now Enjoy this moment. 'cause IT'S GONNA be a shock of reality in about ten minutes from now so I think the world as well and what? We won't get men just what we won't get in the tournament. I I'm not going to have a chance for you to avoid me at the final four which is just too bad man you know. Try and get you to come out and be social in you refuse to do. So if we're if we're being serious about the final four like yes. I was looking forward to the final four. I had already booked flight for my wife to come down to go to Taylor Swift. That's okay keep an eye out on Taylor swift I I show since the lover album came out my wife. Okay I was. I was unaware of that thing in particular but yes just stuff like that and actually I had. I had one coach. Tell me like it's not gonna be weird being that there's no final four. The final four college basketball is different than any other sport because of this like even at the College Football National Title Game. It's not like this. Where coaches from everywhere at every level descend upon the final four city. It is the biggest coaches in the sport and it is assistance at D. Three Schools. It is a convention and it is an incredible thing to see every single season. And that's been taken away. There's not recruiting events that are being allowed. The sports on ice permanently players are going home the doing classes from home. You can't even these guys are going to be around their team anymore. It's done that's the that's the other point that I think listeners might not even not even realize not that season's over these coaches have gone back and their universities are closed. Players are going home. They're finishing school online. They can't even be with each other in the gym practicing. It's done. It always ripped away from them today and so I think like tomorrow and the next few days is when it's really kinda maybe hit these guys that it's like wow like we knew we were close but it's it come. It got completely taken away from these dudes in an instant and that's the other fascinating thing about all of this You know to take away from basketball for for a second in sports for a second. I was thinking about this last night as I was watching. Cable News. And just all of this happening in real time because. I think I pointed this out on the second pockets. I did so last night so you and I recorded. We did like eighty minutes. Something like that like that and then hours later. I was compelled to record something new just to have the most recent information in there in those two hours between us recording and me recording. Gp Wasn't two hours. My man it was. It was literally like forty five minutes. Okay forty-five minutes in those forty five minutes Rudy. Gobert had tested positive the entire NBA hits been been suspended. Tom Hanks and his wife had tested positive. Like water and there was the ban from Europe to USA. Thank you and you can't. You can't fly to the United States anymore. Yeah so all of this stuff just happening. And I'm sitting there watching. It occurred to me that this is so unusual because when we're usually watching every once in a while several times a year we have these big big stories that the whole country is paying attention to right Obviously the most devastating and and and well known one in our adult lives is nine eleven. And we're all just glued to the television watching nine eleven coverage and people talk about nine eleven and yet here's the truth. We're all sad. Were all scared. We're all heartbroken for the families but unless you lived in New York or had a loved one or in that building really didn't have any no real immediate impact on your life. Dc as well and those on the planes but I let me saying. Yeah Katrina nother. We're all watching. We're all heartbroken. But unless you're in New Orleans or have loved ones in New Orleans that probably had very little impact on your life. You woke up the next day and did whatever it is you were going to do. Even if that didn't happen the floods in Houston wildfires in California this countless examples for one of the few times that I think I can remember. We are all watching this incredible international story and it actually does impact all of our lives. It doesn't matter where you live right now. You're being impacted this. You're susceptible to catching it passing it to someone else but more than that just on the day to day you wake up today and your your days are different. You if you're supposed to go to a birthday party this weekend. There's a good chance it's cancelled if you're supposed to go to a concert this weekend. It's a good chance it's cancelled if you were supposed to go to any sporting event in this country. There's a probably cancel. Your kid is probably not going to school next week. That's tomorrow at least in Connecticut. I well my oldest is on spring break right now he's actually in Belize on a school trip and they come back Sunday. I guess and they were supposed to start school on Monday. Well they're not going back to school until at least April. They will do virtual school but he's not going back to his classroom to his campus. To at least April like this is the big story that actually impacts all of our lives changes the way we live you. Y- you walk into your office. There's hand sanitizers everywhere. People being more careful than you've ever seen them be like this is a big story. That's impacting all of our allies. In most big stories do not impact all of our lives like you. See the these mass shootings. There's a mass shooting in Las Vegas. It's sad heartbroken. And then you turn it off and you go on with your day. It's got nothing to do with you after you after that. This has something to do with you. Somebody you know is going to catch this. And even if that doesn't happen your kids school's going to be impacted. Your work's going to be impacted is really is. It's changed all of our lives in to varying degrees which is a pretty fascinating thing to think about. Unless thing I'll come back to on this particular thing is I think we're almost So many people the types. Listen to this podcast of course are conditioned to just be like all right. Let's just let's wind here. Let's just see what's going on in the world of sports that's like not even an option anymore like the sports coverage in this country is going to be bizarre over the next few weeks because it's going to be all about speculation on timelines resumption of stuff and then like okay what's GonNa Happen with the NBA draft. What's GonNa Happen with the Kentucky Derby what's GonNa Happen with the NFL draft? Are they going to get moved? Interestingly enough the drafts can be done without that. You can do a draft virtually now so we might. We might actually get a throwback in those regards with NBA and NFL NFL. Obviously much more likely given the the timeline getting toward that but yeah it will. It will certainly be interesting in the general lifestyle is certainly weirdly enough. We're not gonNA have almost anything to talk about. We'll get we'll stick. It should get your podcast. Don't worry but not nearly the way we were going to do but I I guess the podcast businesses about to boom because people are going to need things to occupy their time. So if you've got a good podcast suggestion by the way feel free to drop it in our mentions we'll certainly Appreciate it GP. I have a fun thing that I WANNA do at the end of this podcast by the way so I think the listeners will like. Gp doesn't know what's coming but I wanted to still capture something. That was the fun of the essence of March in the tournament. So we'll get to that second but there was one more thing I didn't want to ask you about In regard to coaches suggesting that because of the circumstances with this they should lobby to have a one year exception an exemption for seniors to have the choice if they want in our academically eligible to return for one more year of college basketball to give them their opportunity at one more. Go of it. I wanted to get your thoughts on that. And whether and how likely you think that has to happen all right. We're going to do that next then. But first real quick. Let me tell you about sieg. Do you ever feel like ticketing websites? Make getting to the event difficult on purpose. It sure does seem that way sometimes. It's as if they're so big they can get away with not caring about the customer experience as a result you get lousy customer experiences but seek proves that there is a better way with. Cu can search. Sports live music comedy shows. 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The National Association Basketball COACHES COUPLE. Mid Major coach is kind of a toss us out as an aside. Some conversations Do you would you be down with that? And how likely do you think this to happen? Okay so two different questions. By the way like Steve Forbes at East Tennessee state brought the same thing up to me he did okay because he's a he's got five seniors. Wouldn't you by the way? Why would you not if you were Forbes and if you did that East Tennessee state might be a top twenty team in America next season? 'cause they're awesome and if those are in college basketball again being incredible yeah. Forbes is just trying to go on he. He knows he knows exactly what he's doing. Go ahead for trying to Forbes like all right. I got a thirty win season before selection Sunday. Let's see if I can get thirty four The Aztecs wouldn't it be wild if he's to the state went from being the sixty niners to the buccaneers to the ASHTEC. The two thousand twenty twenty one. I asked him. You're getting close to ask text there. But yes that would be incredible new boy flying Dutchman so forth brought it up I got five seniors and they never played in the tournament. This heartbreaking for them you know wouldn't say this but he knows he'll get back to the instantly tournament someday you'll have that experience again but those players never will under the current system so his suggestion was the same as my points like. Why don't we let seniors who to have one more year of eligibility since this was ripped away from no fault of their own? Why don't we let them have that one more year eligibility so your first question I think was? Would I be down with it? I certainly wouldn't be against it. I'll do are. You could mean not that they all come back. But if you're telling me that we could get you as a rookie. Marcus Howard Caches Winston and Peyton Pritchard all back in college basketball next season. Of course. I'm taking that every single time before you're against it you have to explain to me. Why would be against what? What would it hurt like? Why would you be against it? I mean you can have your own selfish reasons like let's say you're ACC coach and this team's got INCR- like let's say you're a big east coach now. Won't miles pal going? I don't think Lavalle Jordan's down with them although he's GonNa Kamar Baldwin if he wants to. Maybe the rising rising tide is good for all boats. And just so. We're clear as you answer. This specifically they're saying here is like increase. The scholarship allotment to like fifteen or sixteen. So that when you have incoming players there's a lot in this but that's that's also being paid just what you do. Is You take your scholarship number that you have right now and however many seniors. WanNa come back at the number to it. I mean that's not. That's not complicate right and that could be done. So if you're against it I need to know why you would be against it. I understand for selfish. Reasons like Golden Gate might be sitting there being like you know what I don't need Marcus. Our two miles POW back in this league fan. Let's just let's just let's get them out of here right so I get why you would be against it for selfish reasons but take that. Put it over here. What why would you be against it I I? I can't think of a good reason. So would I be down with it? Sure I'd be down with. I don't know that fight for it but I certainly wouldn't object like I wouldn't be the Guy Right mccollum that says I can't believe the NC double a. Is Letting Markus our come back to school for one more year? What like what five with me if it makes college basketball better and it allows people to try to fulfill a dream that That that that they were on their way to fulfilling but had ripped away from him. Fine with me. That's sad. Your second question was how likely do I think it is and I would say very unlikely. Because it's very easy to get caught up in the moment right now and this is very. This is an unprecedented situation. And it sucks. I hope we've made that clear. But the truth is seasons abruptly in for people all the time in college careers abruptly in for people all of the time. Sometimes it's no fault of their own just like this is no fault of their own. Kenyon Martin's career ended short of the NCAA tournament you know. If not for a broken leg he'd been on a one seed and they probably won the NCAA tournament at least in the favorite to do it and yet he'll never get that opportunity back no fault of his own and we just chalk that up as something that sucks and is unfortunate and I think this is probably the same thing. It's something that sucks and is unfortunate. It's not a broken leg. It's a pandemic but this is not gonNA MILES POW. Marcus Howard Caches Winston Pemberton. I feel sick for all of them every senior. Who was about to play in the subway tournament? That will never have that opportunity again. I feel sick for them but they will not be the only seniors who had the possibility of instantly tournament. Take it away from them. No fault of their own and the best. Recent example of this is the Louisville team just a few years ago. When Louisville self-imposed a postseason ban midseason? That was an example of a basketball team that enroll to Grad transfers. And if you go back and read the quote from those Grad transfers when they committed a little both of them said more or less one of the reasons they wanted to go to Louisville for the opportunity to play in the NC Double A. Tournament. And then Katrina Powell. Wrote a book and then it became clear that Louisville was going to be punished eventually by the NC Double A. And rather than let the process play out Louisville's administration decided well Rick. Pitino was still the coach that they would sell. Impose a postseason ban essentially ending those players dreams of playing in the instability tournament. Ever now that's what Louis did to its own players and there wasn't some big protest to make that right. Although plenty of US myself included said that that's wrong and that we both that we think you shouldn't be allowed to self impose a postseason ban midseason and just rip that away from your players even if it's for the betterment long-term even as for the long-term betterment of your program you shouldn't be allowed to rip that away from basketball players you know midseason simply because you're more worried about the future than you are them but that's what Louisville did so there's at least two players who also had the possibility of playing from the in the instantly tournament ripped away from them abruptly no fault of their own and so if you think of it. Strictly in those terms what's happening right now is on a larger scale. It's more high profile. It's equally sucky but it's not that unique and so again I wouldn't object if every senior was given an extra year of eligibility but I don't think we're going to get there now I don't but if we did how cool would that be. It'd be the the best possible redemption. You could get after something like this Before I forget I someone tweeted us before this went live and I wanted to give Michelle Tom Miller. He said Y'all answered my podcast question. A couple a podcast question. A couple of months ago regarding my son and his bad luck at Duke Basketball Games took your advice bottom final four tickets as a surprise for his birthday. I feel awful for him. Thanks for the great podcasts. Shush you again Tom. And Josh to your son. Because that's rough and there are. I'm sure hundreds if not thousands of situations just like that. And that's why it's rough so for those. That are listening to podcasts. Happy that we could hopefully bring a little bit of entertainment for you. In light of what's been an unreal day with that said before we get to. Do you have anything else that you want to touch on. But like I've said everything need to say all right so more than any. So here's the deal first of all. Thank you for reminding amid podcast. This was this was set to be part of our selection Sunday podcast and because when we recorded at the time we were GonNa make note of it we got. We got things to figure out. We're not GONNA do all these on this podcast. First of all at the beginning of the season we made our bets on over under totals. GotTa find those okay. Got To figure out who who wanted. Who Lost we have our overall records that in this doc? Yea but I didn't I didn't I didn't update it from the previous games from last week but I didn't updated. I won't worry about that right now. Next podcast of the final number for our For our picks against the spread for the season but earlier this year. And I think this was back in mid-january you and I made our predictions on what we thought. The one seat would be on selection Sunday. Now some of this is going to sound familiar. Because I did. Bake it into a recent PODCASTS intro. But let's just listen to what those predictions were and see how close we think we were on track to being given how close we were to selection Sunday. Mccue this up right now I tunes is going to load for us and this is you and me are on selection Sunday on loss Gonzaga. Okay Zero Law San Diego State Leedle. Chances are Baylor in either Villanova Seton Hall. Can you have the guts to say one or the other display? Which one is it going to be? It's going to be cancer Baylor. It's going to be Villanova Seton Hall. There's GonNa be okay. It'll be Zero San Diego state. Kansas and Villanova. Okay I'm pausing it. Okay San Diego State wasn't gonNA be a one. Zero loss is still not going to be one. Kansas yes Gonzaga. Yes Nova no two out of four not bad. Let's see what I had here. Okay I will say this is fun. It's going to be Baylor. Baylor is going to be a one-seat posit of course one for one all. I have not listened to us about it or not. Guaranteed by the way and not guaranteed. But I think you're heading there. I have not listen to this part of this podcast about it so I don't remember what I'm definitely part of the Wagner a. Nope I definitely did not I promise you here. We go there number absurd right now. Baylor on selection Sunday Twenty Twenty. Baylor will be a one seed to loss. Gonzaga will be a one-seat all my goodness gracious. That's it that's right on the money. I swear I did not listen this before I swear to you. I swear on my children's lives I did not listen. We got another twenty two seconds whilst we got going on here one loss. San Diego State will be a one Donahue believe Utah San Diego Dummy. What did you say? I can't believe he thought San Diego State was gonNA lose you idiot. Gosh that's just met on. Meta on Meta all right Last one I think I remember I picked. I think I think I'M GONNA say Dayton here. Oh my buddy and three loss Dayton will be a one seat okay. Oh that's my. That's my prediction. Yeah that's what I'm going with. Wow that'd be fine with that. I love that all right. So I had three loss Dayton at one seed but these remained two loss Dayton and hey three Alaska impossible move. Lost eight ten todd. Dayton would not have been a one C. But you're going to lose again you are. You are correct by the way I have to say this just popped in my brain while before we get to this awesome thing that I can't wait to do. I will give you credit for something right now about time. I know you know what I do that. A lot in this podcast don't act like I don't know but we'll see this when we saw it would've been like two weeks after that on the intro. I can't tell you. How much had making that intro? Where you had the stuff wrong and that is that was my favorite one of all the ones who did not have a lot of fun doing just thrown. Jovan to it anyway. You said you're like you're on track of your. You Said Cancer. GonNa lose against Baylor and it's never gonNA lose. Gp. You're looking great right now. Like that thing that thing has taken off into the sky and has no signs of stopping right now. Kansas is not losing any time soon. I told you I tried to tell you. I don't know why people don't listen. You had that okay. Here's what I WANNA do. This is what I've been waiting for here. Listen you're down. We get it. No conference tournaments no instability tournament. If there are any one shining moment it's going to be thanks to some awesome creative people on the Internet that I have full. Confidence are going to are going to make those so with that being said since we're not GONNA be able to get an NC double a. tournament what I want. Gp Nine to do right now. Right here is we're going to take the field. Sixty eight that Jerry Palm projected as of eleven twenty eight am on Thursday. We're going to predict how it would go. We're going to crown a national champion right here on this podcast right here right now. Here's what we're going to do. There's four regions Midwest southeast and West. Gp is going to take the Midwest and the South I'm GonNa take the east and the West gp of course. I'm going to read you all these match ups. You don't even need to worry about that and I'll track it as we go here and we're going to have a little bit of fun and in fact just like we told you golden gate. Mike and Saint John's final victory of the season. San Diego State undefeated. We're also going to be looking at which teams are going to go to the final four and twenty twenty and which team is going to be able to cut those nets down in twenty twenty. So what we'll do here. Gp's you'll get to final four teams. I'll get to teams will split on the winners of that. And then we're going to have to come to an agreement on the twenty twenty national champion sound like a plan. Yeah but I can go ahead tell you both of my final. Four teams will be San Diego State as much as I know you WANNA make. That happen is actually physically not going to be possible here. I'm going to force you into a different kind of results. So you'RE GONNA START. We gotTA start with the first four games. Okay so what? We have is Richmond Against Wichita State Champs two Chris Mooney back in the dance saving his job. Great job okay. And then weirdly enough. Palm kind of interrupt. Pac twelve matchup stanford versus UCLA. So you take Richmond Wichita State. Who's coming out on top? I'm GonNa Take Gregg Marshall shockers you're gonNA take the shockers okay. So by taking the shockers we're GONNA knock quick trip for the spiders man. What's up with that by the way? That's the video of the component. That sounds like a flying. Dutchman ROYSTER WRONG WINDOW. What's going on here? You got to close tabs on the importance of close to manage this tabs problem right there got flying. Dutchman on the eye on college basketball PODCAST IDEAL. That's for sure So with with with that the winner is going to go into the south region. Richmond's done it's always tough when you got to lose that first Tuesday plane game I've got Stanford. Ucla there is zero chance. I'm picking it's Cronin the spot. No chance possible. That's going to happen. Ucla is going to get in and they're going to be going to the West. And then we have the sixteenth seed so we got Bobby Mo- playing against central. That's Andy tool going against Lavelle. Moten who you're gonNA take that GP and in the Mid West didn't Lavelle Molten deserve to win a game at this point. I think he does Allen. He deserves it. Give it give to Lavelle mountain and then I got prairie view going up against CNN. Comments era one of the Great First Year. Coach is in fact There was some stat out there about how good he'd been completely forgotten so anyway he's GonNa get the win and they're gonNA move along and get down there into the West. All right you'RE GONNA go first in both the Midwest and the South and for those listening at home this means. Gp is going to have the entire left side of the bracket as where I will have the east and the West. I will have the right side of the bracket so we start with the one seed overall number one Kansas going up against. Nc You we don't have to waste too much time here GP. I think we know where you're going. Kansas Okay. Yeah it's your pick you get to pick all the midwest and the south okay. I'M GONNA go with the J. They have they do have you right the the eight nine matchup here again. These are projections according to Palm. Literally like you know four hours before the Serna canceled this. This is your field of sixty as far as concern. you've got Arizona State and Bobby Hurley plane in Omaha Against Mike White in Florida gators? That's going to be a to fifteen tip on TRU TV. Who are you GONNA take? That is such a true. Tv game it is undoubtedly. I'm not can't trust Florida. I'm taking Bobby Bobby Hurley. We're going to go over to Saint Louis now and the five seat. Greg Guards Wisconsin Badgers. They're going up against twelve seed. East Tennessee state automatic. Bid Out of the so-called this is going to be a seven fifteen tip on Thursday night on TNT who you can take campaign against E. Four not in this situation you got the E. T. S. U. Bucks pulled that twelve over five right off the top. Okay also in Saint Louis good little region here. Four she'd Kentucky Kinda Take on the thirteenth seeded Vermont catamounts. Cbs Tip at twelve. Fifteen on Thursday. You'RE GONNA take boy go with John. Cale Fares Kentucky Walk. That's a tough one. I don't I don't doubt you but I do think there might have been some potential there. Okay bottom half of this. We're going down the screen you can picture Greg. Gumbel going down the screen here. Okay Clark. Kellogg set Davis. Making some outlandish ridiculous Pistilli always does the six eleven game in Greensboro. North Carolina is going to be games that take place on Friday and so this is going to be the nine twenty nine tip Illinois Cincinnati the six eleven game Brad Underwood back in the incidentally tournament Cincinnati Continues Streak. You take an ally or bearcats going with the line are going to move on also in Greensboro. You already know who. Who else do you think is going to be in Greensboro into three fourteen? Game Right now norlander. You are aggravating me right now. Just give me the game. It's Duke Little Rock the game. You've referenced six times on this podcast in the past week glitter is is. Somebody gets sick. Yes this is the one where somebody gets sick. You're taking I already know. Final two games in the East in the first round. You got the seventy. The wolverines going up against the tenth seeded Utah. State aggies also in. Saint Louis is going to be a nine forty five tip on. Tbs WHO YOU TAKE MICHIGAN UTAH. State total trap team. Everybody CAUGHT UP WITH SAM. Merrill hitting the buzzer beater. They're going to be eliminated. We are on the same pace. The last game here is Creighton versus Belmont in Saint Louis. Tough one for. I'm glad I don't have to make it. So you blue Jays Bruins who you got I mean. How could I pick a team that I just watched lose to Golden Gate or go? Are you doing it? You're doing it right here. I'm doing it right here. In Your Belmont Bruins Casey Alexander. By the way quick shouts to Casey Alexander. After we did a little Mary Kill Bang deal. He told you Casey Alexander. He tells me that one. He's listened to the pod to he had not heard that episode yet three found out of his twenty year old daughter telling him shouts to Casey Alexander. Incredible moment there all right donner there. We go you got Kansas Versus Arizona. State in the. I'm going to stick in the quadrant in the move Kansas Arizona State second round to get the sweet sixteen. You take an early take himself who you got thinking bill obviously okay and then we got this beauty of A. Wow All right you got twelve seed in East Tennessee. State going up against Kentucky. Who are you GONNA go with? I'm taking Steve. Forbes buccaneers a little chaos here onto the sweet sixteen which means we the end. The team lost the EVANSVILLE state. Never lost the Evansville right which means we are not getting a hey you you came match up on the bottom bracket you gotTa tell me we got Illinois six seed versus Duke and Greensboro. Who GonNa get all right? And then you're GONNA put Michigan over. Belmont you're GONNA get the Bruins to be the second fifteenth seed ever to get to a sweet sixteen. I believe John Howard Michigan your four teams into the region. Semifinals Kansas East Tennessee state of one versus a twelve. That's going to be an Indianapolis that's GONNA be seventeen seventeen teeth on. Cbs on Thursday night. Who are you gonNa Take Kansas Against East Tennessee state? This is where it comes to an end. Both East Tennessee state season and Steve. Forbes time of these Tennessee state he'd get paid all right good job Forbes. Run One thirty one. Thirty two games went to the sweet sixteen if time to bounce and get that power five money. Get Him Outta here. Duke Michigan to classify that as a CBS game. One hundred percent. That is a blood big time. Easy drove a match up. You're GONNA get Duke. Blue Devils for the second. Straight season is into the elite eight. Will it be a repeat of two thousand nine hundred? Gp Or are you going to put the blue devils over the number one overall? See Kansas Jayhawks in Indianapolis which would be guaranteed Primetime Sunday tip on? Cbs Bill Self. Kansas Jayhawks will advance to the final. Four he is getting Kansas into the final four. We moved down to the south number. One seed Baylor going up against the sixteen. See the Boston. You already know where you're going with this bears let's move along marquette versus Arizona in a very intriguing eight nine game. This is going to be in Omaha. Who Do you like? I'm taking Marcus Howard in Omaha. That's big this big east country. That's true when he's familiar with the environs. Good point you're five. Well it's fun to talk about Omaha as big east country high now wild spokane ship and Chris Holtman. It's disrespectful ship and Chris Houghton Up Spokane to play the twelve CDL bulldogs. You've gotta fly across the country. Who Do you like? The Yale bulldogs aren't built for that. That's right how about the other bulldogs your four thirteen matchup is Butler against Bradley. And Spokane you like those bulldogs take. I'll take Butler bulldogs shore in that game. Charoen might read but Brad remember the Brad Pitt game from way back in the day Brad Pitt and this is this is this is the but brad game. How about that All right so you're going to get butler. Virginia GETS WICHITA STATE. Who won the first four game? So you'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA give Tony benefit benefit of Tony Bennett the benefit of the tout against Gregg Marshall. I'm going to take Tony Bennett to beat wichita state seventeen to fourteen. I always just moved along. And then my brain was like seventeen fourteen mile score. Seventeen fourteen sounds good. These are in Greensboro by the way Maryland terrapins down in Greensboro gone up against the fourteenth CD. Uc Irvine ant eaters. How it's GonNa feel about this one ant eaters to two years in a row you take them. No no no no no no no I can't I. CAN'T I love Maryland. Okay they're like they're like my aspects of the of the East your final two games here providence versus Lsu in Tampa. That's your seven ten match of in the south. You're GONNA take Ed coolies hot fryers or we'll wait coaching. I entered a tournament game in more than two years. Because he wasn't there last year when they went. We'll take we'll Wade's lsu tigers. Ten over seven. And then you're to fifteen in this region. Is Florida state going up against Northern Kentucky? Yet as much as I love doing Darrin Horn because he coach Devon Devon Downey I gotTa Take Florida State. Florida state wins by eleven and has seventeen players weights. Seventeen different players scored twelve points All right so we also have funny All right so we have baylor versus Marquette in the second round who you're gonNA take next Baylor Against Mark Baylor Villa bears. Okay Baylor moving on all right. And then the storylines right themselves. You Got Ohio State and Chris Holtman going up against Butler his former team in second round. Oh Wow I will take. I'll take Chris Holtman and in Ohio state okay By the way this is this is perfect. Proof that the incident doesn't nearly think about this stuff as much as you think about it. Once you see it. These things are in. They just happened. I agree I didn't realize I was until I just saw the match up on my on my work as I was doing it here. Our highest state moves on to more in this region. The role must done. You've got Virginia up against Maryland So in all school. Acc matchup and relatively regional stuff right there as well. Tony Bennett in the sixty two cavs versus the third seed turps. Who we go on with this would be by the way in Greensboro Maryland terrapins Maryland going on higher prevailing. And then you got. Fsu To seat against Lsu Tigers picks artists date far state wins a close when this one by only six points but with twenty one players scoring twelve points in the game when just absurd to more three more technically Baylor Ohio state. Bela moves on Maryland. Florida State Maryland. I thought you were going to go. Fsu Okay so it was gonna be the bears or is it going to be. Are you going to be boring and pick another one? I'm taking the Maryland terrapins. Just to make Maryland fans mad yes. Marilyn Vance Campfire the Maryland fan base is the one fan base. That will be mad. That I put the terrapins all the way into the final four Maryland's in the final since two thousand two. I hope he listens appreciate this. You thought you weren't getting you thought you weren't getting bracket picks now not going to happen. Not on this podcast. We're going to the West Baby. Okay Gonzaga going up against in Spokane. They're going to have his act tip off at two fifteen on Friday. That's a true. Tv Game I'm GonNa Take Zag you move down you got Houston versus Colorado also in Spokane. Twelve fifteen tip. I'm GONNA go with. I gotta go with the Kooks through the better team there so Gonzaga and the cougs Penn State. This is the overwhelming twelve over five. Pick and I'M GONNA fall for it. It's GonNa Happen Stephen F. Austin in Sacramento knocking off Penn state nittany lions Lamar Stevens. You had a great great career. Sf as moving on an Oregon in Sacramento TNT tip. Nine four nine forty five at night on on Friday New Mexico state Mexico states. Good I got chaos right here. I Got Stephen F. Austin the twelve Mexico state the thirteen moving on bottom half of the bracket. Byu going up against I ready for this man Byu Ucla. What am I doing in the spot? I'm going to. Byu Auto Show. What Mick. Listen it's in Albany man. This is where I'm going to be covering this is. This is an easy for you. WanNa talk to Mick Cronin after his team loses to. Byu Is teams that lose in this big for crying out loud. Who you think you're talking about. Byu Is going to get done. My Man Tell You oh no sane insane one team is coached by Mick. Cronin in the other team has not coached by Mick Cronin. What you doing listen. This tournament is insane. I don't make the rules. It's done Seton Hall. Is the three going up against Hofstra? It's an incredible fight. Of course we're moving along with Seton Hall in Albany. Be a prime time tip on. Cbs and then get to seven ten matchup Iowa versus Xavier Sacramento last tip of Friday. Night out on the West Coast. That's a true. Tv Tip. I have to take Iowa in that. Spot Xavier's lucky to even be on the ten line there move along with the Hawkeyes and Santos also in Sacramento moving on against eastern Washington. I'm going to take in Zagreb to cruise past who Houston and then. I'm going to take New Mexico state to move a long pass even Austin in the second best game of the second round overall move along. Byu Seton Hall. One of the most entertaining games in the first weekend entirely. I'm going to ride with the cougars. Amazingly good offensive team. Miles Powell career comes to an end in Albany with lots of friends and family on hand and then of course you've got the last game San Diego state versus Iowa state a contrast in styles. But this is why Luca Garza will not be. Cbs Sports National Player of the year failed to get to the second weekend. San Diego State continues its undefeated season marches along gets to the sweet sixteen we've ZAG versus New Mexico. State and after Gonzaga beat New Mexico state by twenty four points. The question becomes not if this team will get to the national championship game but will it win it all by an average of twenty five points. They are a machine three week. Three Games overall. They're gonNA move along an SDS. You remains undefeated. It beats its former mountain west comrades. We got PAT. I'm on a roll hero. Let me go Gonzaga San Diego state so you got Kansas in Maryland in the final four. You know what I love you. I'm going to let you pick this. So what are we haven't yet? We've got three out of the four once you pick this one. I'm going to pick the fate of the winner of this game in the final four. But you know what I'm GonNa let you pick this Gonzaga the one versus San Diego State. The two in L. A. at Staples Center who you take Holy Crap. It's very serious. Stuff is is tough is tough you making me. Rip My heart a half. I'm going to take zag but still allow Sandiego state deficiencies and undefeated you. You you go ahead and hop on that train then see where it takes you there. Gonzaga moves along. We've got a one to one and Maryland is a three the last region. Let's go up to New York and well we've got different cities we gotta be. They'll get to New York in the second weekend. Here we're GONNA start with Dayton. Once he the flyers. How do you not love the story going up against Pat Kelsey WINTHROP EAGLES? This isn't even a question. Date moves along without too much of a fight. Toughest eight nine gave him of all. You've got a cleveland tip. Saint Mary's against Oklahoma. This is GONNA be. Tbs Tip at seven twenty seven on. Friday I'm GonNa go with the GAELS here. Just trust them a bit more in Jordan. Ford is probably just a little bit better than Christian doolittle. He's the best player on the floor. GimME SM see down to Tampa the game auburn versus Akron. The Tigers have five seed Akron. A lot of people sleeping in Auburn Isaac a Coro- didn't make our top ten freshmen. Bruce Pearl had to give me a call he might be making a t shirt. I don't even know what's going on but I gotTa Take Tigers this is chew forty tip on CBS Friday. I'M GONNA go with Auburn moving along there and then the last game in the top half of this bracket well Louisville four seat liberty lot of wins thirteen seed in Tampa. Give Me Chris. Mack and his cardinals. Liberties had a good season. Terrible shrink the schedule gotta go with the bottom half of it Bob. Huggins sixty mountaineers Likud is. This is when it gets fun. You're like rutgers rutgers is here and take them how about that how about that. They're going to be a everyone's GonNa Sleep on this rutgers team. Gp because they couldn't win away from home they're gonNA put off. They're going to get it done by the way I only. Gps BALD head right now like for all my new for all. I know he's actually fallen asleep at this point. So I'm away okay. I mean not not not because I WANNA BE. I am boy. We're in Cleveland Right now. By the way Michigan state the three seed up against North Texas the fourteen. I can't tell you anything about North Texas. Can you tell me anything about not? Gp can I tell you anything about North Texas? Yeah of course I can. That's not convincing. Michigan state moves over there. The mean green they are. Can you name the coach Real Quick? Five four three grant. Yeah you might have all right. Michigan state moves along in Cleveland. We get to the final cheated. You'RE GONNA accuse me of cheating. I think he might have pulled up a Ken. Page their quickness. No I am not cheating. Let me tell you me give you prove that I am not cheating. Athletic Director North Texas is a man named Ren Baker who used to be the associate athletic director at the University of Memphis. I've got strong ties to north Texas and we go north Texas most known for Fine Dutchman. It's an elite music school. It's like a top ten music school in the country but anyway continue Usc The seven seed against Indiana. The ten Archie Miller's in no more throwing lob grenades and verbal lobs at the break out there and the infield. This is an Albany beyond to watch this one here. Seven fifteen tip. Tnt Thursday. I'M GONNA go with the Trojans should be very good next season by the way good recruiting class coming in but the good news continues. And then the last game of the first round Dave Richmond and those fifteen seeded Bison and they've got to fly all the way to country play these Villanova wildcats. It's not even close. Nova WINS BY TWENTY. We move on to the second round. Dayton saint. Mary's Dayton gets a genuine scare a real scare fliers. They're going to Madison Square Garden. Obi Top and hit a shot with less than ten seconds to go. They move on along you love and a state and fans. I know you are next. Game Auburn Louisville Tigers Cardinals Tampa big time game mid-afternoon Saturday tip on TBS. And I'm going with the Auburn Tigers over Louisville. Don't get enough out of Jordan Laura. They're out sorry about it now. Moving along what rutgers against Michigan State? It's a big ten matchup. What happened when these teams play this year? Gp Dino Michigan State Rutgers what happened. I don't know I literally don't know and I'm about to check. I'm about to check right now. Here we go. They beat them. Here's why we don't know 'cause they frigging played on December Eighth Michigan State. One seventy seven sixty five. It's going to be a repeat performance there Tommaso then moving along cash winston turning one of the better stories of this March and the Nova dispatches. Usc WE GOT Dayton Auburn Michigan State Villa Nova at the garden for the Sweet Sixteen Dayton after almost losing in the Second Round Incredibly Beats Auburn by thirty seven points. It's not even close. It's not even close. Bruce Pearl again calls me out for not giving is a coral enough love. In the Post Game Dayton moves along and then you have Michigan State Villanova that the nine fifty tip on CBS. That Friday night incredible Game Michigan State prevails the get along into the bracket to close one goes into overtime cash. Us Winston Hits Xavier. Tillman who makes an awkward lip with three seconds to go Dayton versus Michigan State? The last tip of the elite eight on CBS from Madison Square Garden. The flyers and the SPARTANS. I literally just had coach. Just text me. Is there any chance? Cbs still has a selection show. I don't think so but it would be really awesome. This is your selection show people. I cannot not take the flyers Dayton moves along OBI top and seals one of the best performances by player out of a mid major ish conference in history. So here are our final four match. Gps paid non me. But I know the listeners are loving this. By the way they will think US deeply for Kansas Maryland. Zag Zag a Dayton who well. I had to do it now if we did a Monday. That stupid and this isn't in the moment here. We're we're giving people something positive. Okay let him live transparently through us. All right can't transparently through me. Kansas MARYLAND KANSAS MARYLAND IN ATLANTA. That is that is that would be the that would be the second game. So I'M GONNA pick my game. I this would definitely be the first. You've got Gonzaga vs Dayton in Atlanta. That's the first tip on. Tbs which has the final four. This year I am going to take. This is an incredible credibly fun offensive game. Gonzaga wins prevents us from Kansas State in rematch from Maui? It's an eighty eight eighty six final and what's instantly regarded as one of the better final four national semifinal games? We've had in the past. Fifteen years. Mark few gets his bulldogs back to the national title for the Second Time. In his career. Most recently coming in two thousand seventeen who you got Jayhawks terrapins. First off how. Are you going to miss a major storyline from that game? What did I miss? What S Half Brothers? Killian till the final four matchup between the half brothers Jalen crutcher and Killian though. Shame on me. That's all it's all we'd be talking about that we again. How did I miss it? I'll kill and tilly's mother Jalen crutches. Mother Jalen Crutchfield. She got her. She got her crutcher and she got artilley. Probably gotTa Tilly Crutcher. What do you think who's older till? Yeah so she got her tilly. She got her crutcher. I missed that. Forgive me Zag moves along. Now you gotTa said that. The fates of bill self at margin first of all this is going to be the later game. The mark is not getting the beverly. Keep that in mind. It's Mark Turgeon. Kansas along yes. It is trying to get to his first final four years to defeat his alma mater to get there. No He's already there. This is in the final four. You know what I mean. Look I mean it is half brothers? You don't get as bookie who would be. Who would be the best half brother on Maryland? There's no answer for that. Let me see. There's not you have to figure this out on my own. Now go ahead and figure it out by the way as he figured it out. This is what I wanted for all your listeners. You guys have been incredible this season. This is our longest episode of the season as it should be. Oh it feels like oh I know it does as we break down the twenty twenty tournament take you through it. Virtual reality or otherwise and You guys have been incredible. Continued to subscribe and right and all that stuff We've noticed the numbers have continued to rise. And we will still provides you a podcast in some way or another. We will get this done going forward all right. Who's this half brother? His half brothers. Ricky Lindo okay. Sure now great not a great team to try to find a half brother for you guys that That canoe tipped on. You didn't work out. I'm taking Kansas to get to the national championship game. All right so we've got Kansas which is rated as the best team in college basketball for more than half the season and Gonzaga which has had the best offense in college basketball for more than half the season Who are you inclined to say is GonNa win this thing? Give it to you. I'm going to give it to mark Zack's I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you on that in this in this year of all years. It's him his number one rated off in a in a great matchup getting that championship. In firming up what is sure to be soon a hall of fame career man. I felt like I felt like march was just yesterday that term. It went by so fast it actually felt like it took longer than the actual tournament. I would have rather gone through the actual. No you know. You wouldn't have to tell me that tomorrow you tell me that's true tomorrow. I've glad to turn if it's over the tournaments the tournament this tournament felt like it went by in a flash just unbelievable hope. You enjoyed that. I had. I had to just scratch that each tonight. I had to be night to do it. So zags are the two thousand twenty national champions. Yes San Diego state ever remembered as the season where Gonzaga wins. Its first national title while San Diego State. Also finishes undefeated correct. They are the twenty. Twenty national champions. This is for the record in perpetuity that being said I encourage all listeners. 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Conference Tournament College Basketball Betting Tips with Ralph Michaels March 2, 2020
"With that we transition over the college basketball side of things and bring on professional eighty. Get but Ralph Michaels from wagertalk DOT com today man. Doing Great Adamos great to see out here in Vegas. You know. It's nice to see the hype that your baseball guides getting. And the respect you get from the media people out here it. It really is a A nod to the hard work and the dedication you put into it. I definitely appreciate that great to see you last week as well and obviously this isn't kyle hundred. Kyle Hunter out sick here on today's show. But we bring Ralph back great to get him back on the show. It's been a little while here. We're GONNA talk about some of the conference tournaments that start here this week. Some of the conference tournament betting strategies things of that sort rough. I guess we'll start with that because the postseason begins on Tuesday night Atlantic Sun Big South Horizon League and the Patriot League. What's different about betting? These conferences tournament games as opposed to betting regular season games. While I think you're gonNA find that I like betting big dogs especially early those teams that have had losing streaks going into the conference tournaments because number one. It's a restart of the season for them number two. You have to remember that. These teams are playing back to back to back days off very often. And if you get that big lead. Are you resting pooling your starters? Are you playing your bench? Are you going deeper and deeper your bench to get some more depth moving forward so the mindset is quite a bit different handicapping with the and for those for those underdogs? They continue to give one hundred percent effort to the final buzzer. So again I mean this is a one shot deal for a lot of these teams here especially these early conference tournaments the on big south Patriot Horizon Ohio Valley Northeast. The West Coast is not going to be a one bid league this year neither or the Missouri Valley will be a one bid league as well so yeah one shot here in a lot of these early conference tournaments. So Do you feel. Like you can still handicapped motivation. Even though there's only one bid available I don't think you're handicapping completely different when you have conference tournaments and when you have the NCAA tournament. I think you're not handicapping motivation. That's quite a bit different in the where I think. Motivation in the early Games is one of the most important factors handicapping handicapping some of those smaller conferences for teams. That are are disappointed in the tournament. They're in all right. So let's look at some of these conferences tournament specifically and start with the Atlantic Sun Tournament. And unfortunately here the sports books pretty slow to react here on Monday morning. We don't have odds for most of these you'll book I've got odds for is the circuit for the Horizon League tournament. Don't have anything other than that. So we'll try to do the best. We can't here with some strategy and some of the things that we're looking at here but in the ace son. Liberty is your top seed. You're overwhelming tournament favourite. Once we get numbers posted everywhere even though liberty in north Florida tied with identical thirteen and three records and North Florida. In fact actually beat. Liberty wants out of their two meetings but this looks like it's liberties tournament to lose and also to this a different handicapping strategy with these tournaments because all of these games are at campus sites. You have to factor homecourt advantage into the equation and I think homecourt advantage for the tournaments is even bigger than in the regular season. Now even though you're having to give some of your seats up and and some of the conferences you know you have to give seats to each of the schools. I think there's the familiarity. The added Edge. The the crowd be at not as large as a regular crowd. But you know when when you're playing these back to backs you have to remember college. Kids are accustomed to this. They're they're going on the road and they're leaving that night or they're leaving first thing in the morning now. These kids are staying in a different setting. It's it's the tournament typesetting that some of them played in November. But it's not a tournament typesetting because you're prepping for those next next team. So I actually give the coaches a little bit of a higher edge than I do when I have my coaching ratings and I give the home-court edge for those teams having a little higher as well that makes it a whole lot of sense here and again. I mean liberty last year one this conference tournament and in fact if you remember. They went on the road to lipscomb and one this conference sermon. That was a very very good lipscomb team. Last year on the two thousand eighteen team was also very good this year. Lipscomb draws the three seed because they had had a higher net rating than Stetson. That's in one of the other teams. That beat liberty here over the course of the season and Lipscomb just did it in the regular season finale but Ralph looked up and down this conference here. Is there any way you could look at anybody other than liberty to win this thing? Yeah again I am not. I am not giving it to liberty because I do like this North Florida squad you know you. Have you have one of the most efficient offenses in the country? Their problem is defense but a lot of times you can. You can live by the defense. I liked the way they finished going down the stretch. Winning eight of their last nine. You look at the LIPSCOMB game. They played on the road. They lost eighty five to seventy three and it was the game that they shot very poorly one of their were shooting games. So in the second meeting in the second beating when they've played liberty They they beat liberty at home. Seventy one seventy then they lose by five. I give North Florida shot. And a Lotta Times Adam. I think it's actually good to talk about. Play these Games through in your head before you see the odds because even handicapping for thirty five years. There's Times you look at the odds. And that's ways your opinions on these games who you really think might be able to win so You know I do like going through these it just like much like I do bowl games. I like going through all the bowl games. Making my lines before they come out because then you don't have that misconception or or again think this team has this big favourite. Do I really think this dog has a live shot? And there are some other teams. That will talk about here a little bit with some of these smaller conference tournaments that fall into this same boat but it seemed like North Florida as you mentioned very good offensively not good defensively at all. You're going to have a lot of teams like trying to figure out of my head. But you're GONNA have a lot of teams here that you know rate very well defensively but not as well offensively. Na Conference Tournament Tournament format like this. Are you kind of leaning towards the offense over the defense or vice versa? I usually lean defense. But if I'm GONNA take an north Florida's not a flyer by any means they're going to be the second favorite but I like taking teams. That are three point heavy and they shut thirty eight percent from three point a league best and you know. I'm going to go back. And people if people remember back in December or the end of November when Michigan got hot and Beacon Zag and went through their run. What happened they got on fire from three and North Florida? I liked those teams tournament. That can shoot a three well can win on the road and has the ability to get hot from three point. Land all right so we take a look at another conference tournament here. This is another very very small conference the Big South Conference tournament this one also starts on Tuesday night. The bottom six seeds play. They all play on campus sites. You've got high point at USC upstate Campbell at UNC Ashville Presbyterian at Charleston southern Thursday. The set of the quarter-finals begin. Those are all held at Radford's campus. Because they are the number one seed. Same thing with the semifinals in the championship. Game on Sunday March eighth played at the home site of the highest seed which if Radford wines upholding up. That's where the game would be played if not it could very well be in. Rock Hill South Carolina at winthrop. Something like that but Radford and winthrop tied with fifteen and three records way to go to the second tiebreaker for Radford to be the number one seed winthrop is the number to here and those are the two best teams in this conference but Gardner Webb kind of lurking Campbell. Sort of looking after that then. A bunch of bottom fifty caliber teams year in the big south so as sort of handicap through this tournament. Ralph your who do you kind of have your eye on this team to win this thing. Well having the Home Ed j as I just said I I give the edge so I expect Radford to win this but you know my dark horse would be Gardner Webb. You know you lost. Who was the preseason player of the year for Peres for Multiple Games if he can come back and and can get healthy and and start playing on his status. I haven't I haven't been able to get an update on them but You know they're they're certainly a team that. I look at and and was leaning forward. You know the other the other team down the stretch you know Longwood Longwood finished well. They're they're the best defensive team and as I said there's certain times I like offense with the three but if Longwood could get any type of shooting you know that that is a team that finished seven and three down the stretch the last ten games and you know one thing I I wanna point out at him you and I talk about bar tour vic dot com often and when I get into these tournaments couple things I look at is I go in and if you go into bar tour you can put a start date on the top so I go back and I look at what. These teams did their last ten games. I go back to the end of January. Punch Ma'am you see their offensive and defensive efficiencies and then I also got a stat Fox. Because they're the easiest to pull down and pull down all the road stats so you look at the teams did on the road offensively and defensively point per game and rebounds and those are two things. I think are very vital. When you're breaking these conferences information. Wise to have it at at your fingertips. Yeah I agree I mean part is great especially because you kind of get those trend lines with some of the visuals that he has there. And you look at Gardner Webb here. They've won six. In the last seven they beat winthrop at home. They beat Radford on the road in a game that Radford. You'll I mean look. This was a team going for the number one seed there on Saturday and maybe they already had it locked up. I'd have to go back and double check that. But so Gardner. Webb beat those two teams the top two seeds here over the last month or so went to triple overtime in a four point loss at winthrop and that was three days after losing it home by three to Radford. So Gardner Webb Split. The meetings with the top two seeds and the losses were nothing to scoff at either and this of course a Garner team that won this conference tournament last year with the same head coach in Tim Craft and last year. There were a team in the regular season and conference play or ten in Eight I believe actually this year. There were eleven and seven. So Gardner Webb not a bad bet. Here obviously WanNa see what this price looks like when the odds come out but that may be one that you want to keep an eye on their in the big south even though a lot of people will say it will likely come down to read Radford and winthrop and it could but Gardner Webb a team with some upside. They're coming out of that. Three C line real quick. I want to circle back to the Atlantic Sun Conference because circus. Sports actually did post those as son conference tournament odd sear. Liberty is bias three fifty north Florida plus four twenty-five Lipscomb plus twenty two hundred North Alabama fifty to one simply Jacksonville then on down from their celebrity minus three fifty here with North Florida. Plus four twenty five. And if I gotTA SAY. I don't even know if liberties highest minus three fifty in a potential championship game against North Florida. I agree with that. I think there's certainly value there with with North Florida. North North Florida's a team with twenty wins on the season. I you know they have. They have one goto player. Qadeer Rosa is is a senior that that can that can light it up for him. I you know you have when you have a senior point guard. Who is your best player. I I completely think there's value with the ospreys are so let's go to the Horizon League here. We've got right. State the minus one ten favorite out at circuit that was as of yesterday Northern Kentucky Plus Two Twenty Green Bay ten to one Illinois Chicago. Eleven to one. Nobody else in this conference really has a great chance. Everybody else thirty five to one or higher but when we look at the horizon a couple of interesting differences for this season. The first is that they're going to reseed in the first and second round or in the second round so what that's going to do potentially is take away a long shot getting to the finals because the last two years we've seen longshots get to the finals in the Horizon League tournament last year or two years ago we saw Cleveland State. Get there as an eight seed. They lost the right state 2017. Milwaukee made the finals as a ten seed so the Horizon League really trying to make a concerted effort here to put their best foot forward get one of their two best teams into the conference tournament. The second interesting wrinkle here and Ralph. We could talk about this. For A COUPLE OF MINUTES. Is that the the first round games are at campus sites. The quarterfinal games are at campus sites. But the semifinal games and the championship Games Indiana Farmers Calcium. This is the home floor of. Up Y who is the bottom seed in this conference but when you get late these conference tournaments here. These are sites that these teams generally don't play at too often that can have a big impact on shooting numbers. Totals and things like that. It does but you know I actually. I love the way the Horizon League does it and give their one and two a double by you know. They're the number. Three team gets a single by so you know the three teams GonNa play the next highest and the day too. So you know all you have to do is if you're right state or your northern Kentucky is win two games and you know the question's GonNa come up. Oh it's hard to beat a team three times and I you know. I certainly think that right state in northern Kentucky the way it's set up we'll get there. Well you know for those. That didn't pay attention on the final day of the regular season right state was playing for the title against Northern Kentucky. Went into Northern Kentucky. Wins that game sixty four sixty two so I had to go to the database and I pulled out what teams do losing. Do An opponent twice if they have twenty or more wins Northern Kentucky has twenty one wins on the season so you have a quality team that has dropped both of the first two meetings to an opponent going all the way back to two thousand and ten. The listen to the average line is only two point seven in the situation. Which you expect your twenty-one team you have double revenge two point seven is the average line and you're only sixty five and ninety one straight up forty one point seven percent against the spread your seventy four seventy nine and three forty eight point four percent. So it's GonNa come up often in these conference tournaments about. It's tough to beat a team three times. Well it's not if you're the better team you know. It's tough to upset a team three times. That's certainly one thing but the beat a team three times teams do at fifty eight point three percent of the time. I think something. That's really interesting about this conference tournament. And maybe this is the reason. Why Right State has had some success against Kentucky massive pace war between right state and Northern Kentucky? Right state you know kind of a top thirty five team in Tempo Northern Kentucky of bottom fifty team and tempo and that will be interesting because the way that this is currently set up. It looks like you probably end up seeing northern Kentucky. Play Green Bay on Monday. Green Bay also likes to push the tempo also likes to push the pace so on one hand you can say Okay Northern Kentucky will have just played a game and a higher tempo. They're going to be more prepared for it. Taking on Wright state in a potential championship game or on the flip side they may play to very UPTEMPO Games back to back. That's not the nurses style. There are not a great three point shooting team. That could really work to their detriment. Here I kind of like right state even Chaki play minus one ten because like you said they got a win two games and even if they draw Illinois Chicago. Who is maybe the best defensive team in this conference? I still think they're draws a little bit easier. Ya again. I I have just slightly higher as far as defense goes right states right there as well but I completely agree with you. Green Bay is number eight and temple. As far as Ken Palm Ratings Go An- and right state is number thirty two for for these kids to be running up and down that court back to back nights the way they are when they're not accustomed to it. I think that would be a clear play for me where I can see a live betting situation. Where if the Games tied at the half I would clearly be on right state or even afraid states down a few as long as right state was able to control the tempo and get enough. Get enough shots off. Then I'd be looking to play right state in the second half. Well that's another excellent talking point here. I mean obviously you know with clients. You can't necessarily sell them. Second half plays. It's just such a small window but personally with bedding your bankroll these conference. Tournaments are a unique animal. Because as we've said you play back to backs or you play three games in five days depending on how the conference German is set up. Live betting second-half betting tons of opportunities for that here at this time of the year. Yeah and after member. Northern Kentucky has three sophomores in their starting lineup including a point guard. So you have a situation. Where is it surprising that you know down the stretch they went? What twelve and three losses to write state top three Defense Illinois Chicago at home top three defense right stated home top three defense so I think when you're playing those tougher defenses and you have that sophomore? Yeah Bryson Lankans played a lot and he started most of this year but he still is a first year starter. He didn't play at all last year. You know he red shirted so know I look at it and I think there's value with Wright state at at minus one ten because of the because of the only having to play the two games and just the better team the best player on the court. No question and the better coach. You know you have to remember that Northern Kentucky is you know is a first year under Darrin Horn. He stayed home. Obviously he was an assistant there. As as the as the coach from last year John Brannon went to Cincinnati. But you have a first year head coach coaching his first tournament. I think that's a negative as well all right so another conference tournament that starts on Tuesday. Here we've got four of them to talk about the ace on the big south the horizon. Now we talk about the Patriot league this obviously going to be a one bid league but you know what we don't have any odds for this conference tournament but it does look very very interesting because usually we think. Patriot league we think Bucknell. They're not very good this year. In fact it's been kind of a struggle for them a little bit here of late. Colgate is the number one seed American and be tied with twelve and six conference records. American gets the two CD tiebreakers. So beat you. Is it three seat here? Army and Lafayette tied at and eight but army won both head to head meetings. They're the four seed all of these games on campus sites. This is not a conference tournament that this is a pretty decent conference though where a lot of these teams are pretty interchangeable out of these teams grade. Pretty equally VIC. Maybe we've got some value on somebody that's not the number one seed colgate. I mean you're looking at you know the top team. There was no one that dominated down the stretch as you said looking back at the last ten games American colgate and Boston University were all seven and three loyal Maryland. Lafayette Army were all. Six and four. Lehigh was five and five. So you know you add into that situation. The home-court Edge. I it's GONNA be. It's going to be big and I look at the best defensive team. Best Defensive Team is American no question. The best offensive team is going to be Boston. I think Boston you has has a shot. The way the way he has he has finished played. Your normal tough schedule down the stretch. You look at how they finished. And they're like nine and three their last twelve. They lost a colgate by sixteen. That was a game that just got away from Lafayette. A two point loss Lee high in overtime loss by two points. They've been in every game and a team that I have circled that I'll look at. Don't also get to the window with him but I certainly may be on them once or twice betting wise one of all throw out here is actually Lafayette and Lafayette is going to be a team where we talked about betting future. We'll also talk about money line rollovers and I think the money line rollover more often than not going to be a better course of action for you. Because you're going to get a much bigger price then that initial futures investment and also to the way you hedge your money. Line Rollover is this simply stopped betting it if you bet a future and that team gets the championship game while you probably have to invest more money on the other side to make your hedge. Lafayette is the Five C. They are on the road at army. That's going to be a pick em type of situation there but this Lafayette team. They beat Boston University. They lost a B. You buy a point. They've played very very well against colgate. They had they. They actually beat colgate twice in the regular season. Lafayette is very inconsistent. Though they've played up to the superior competition down to the inferior competition so there is some worrying that but that's why you take this money line rollover price where if they beat army your roll that over and underdog role against Colgate if they beat colgate you roll that over into an underdog role. It's probably American or you with the money. Line Rollover you look for upside you look for ceiling for a team that can go out there and score you. Some of these big upsets Lafayette's done it already over the course of the conference play season. That's one that I'm looking at here. As far as this conference goes I think probably colgate or be you ultimately wins it but Lafayette is kind of your risk reward type of play. Well you you know. You're you're looking at a team in Lafayette that you know has as a sophomore point guard and and then a lot of leadership in the middle. And you've got multiple guys that can score You're a team that shoots free throws very well. You shoot twos well. You don't shoot three wells but that's fine and two losses. A two losses is the most. You've had him back to back games all year. So can't can't argue with that play at all so we go to Wednesday here. We've got three conference tournaments getting underway. We won't talk about the North Eastern Conference Alva- preview actually of all of these thirty two conference tournaments over at Bang the book Dot Com. But let's take a look the mountain West Conference where we've got a lot more household names conferences. A lot of people are going to know bit better than some of those low major leagues. I'm astonished that it's wet starts on Wednesday and we don't have any odds out for it yet but what we do know for sure. Ralph is that -Sego state will be the clearcut favorite here. They will and you know. We talked about San Diego State a lot during the end of the regular season and I clearly thought it would help them to lose a game. I. I didn't think it was a positive thing to have an undefeated season. I didn't think it was a positive thing to have that win. Streak to try to carry over so we saw them lose to. Unlv no-one playing better ball in the country right now then. Unlv down the stretch. Just amazing losing their bigs and go into small ball and what they've done but you know now. Unlv of course host this tournament as they always do. But you know you saw San Diego State lose to UNLV struggle mightily to Colorado state and then struggled mightily in the first half against Nevada and then Malachi. Flynn takes over scores. I think thirty five in that game they pull away the second half against Nevada and now I think they're back. You know this. This is the team that yes you want to win your tournament. And it's a situation. Where if you were undefeated at this point and this is a little off topic but if you were undefeated. I wouldn't want to win my tournament and be undefeated that would just be the mindset. I have the other difference between this tournament and next week is if you are playing physical teams back to back to back to back games and you know you're in the tournament. I don't know if winning the tournament is that much of a priority for you. Obviously this week it's different. I'm talking next week when we look at some of those other tournaments. And let's say you're the big ten and you're one of the top two seeds and you have to play Wisconsin and Michigan State and purdue and you're GONNA get banged up three straight days hell. I'd rather losing around to take those extra days rest. Still be a three seed and be happy without having banged up with that said though now they have the entire week of rest having lost to. Unlv I think how helps them? Cav have revenge if they face them again Having you know having beaten. Unlv here in this setting gives them gives them momentum. I would not bet against San Diego state in this tournament but again you were talking about a prohibitive favorite and you know you're GONNA be playing air force or Fresno no problem then so you very well could have a second round game against UNLV. I like Utah. State Utah State to get to the finals. I think Utah states playing as well as anyone and if I can get Utah State Bob. Looking ahead to the finals and obviously it matters. You know how well you're playing but if I can get UTAH. State plus five or more down the stretch. I'd be happy to take them in the finals against San Diego State and if I'm getting Utah State if I think they're going to be a five point dog in the finals and a significant favourite in the other games you know if I could get plus two fifty as far as the tournament goes then. I'd be looking at them. Yeah I think so too. I mean you got four games in four days here for the teams at the plough Wednesday. Those are the six through eleven seeds as you mentioned this one at the Thomas and mack out in Nevada. Unlv with that homecourt advantage but obviously these fan bases travel. Because you know why wouldn't you WanNa go to Las Vegas at this time of the year? The thing that's interesting Cindy state here since two thousand nine. They've been in the finals. This conference tournament nine times. They are only three and six straight up in those nine games so this is a team that makes a good tournament. Run doesn't always finish it off. We'll see if they're able to do it here. I agree with you on Utah State because one of the things you're going to find in these conference tournaments teams that had really high expectations and fell well short of them. They are supremely motivated to go out there and try and get that bid back that they feel like they lost Utah State. Is that team to me. They are the most dangerous team in this conference tournament. We'll see what the odds are like here. Once that one rolls around rough one more conference tornado touch with you here on this show. That is the Ohio Valley Conference Tournament. This is at the Ford Center in Evansville Indiana. The top eight teams qualify for this one Belmont. Your number one seed Murray State your number two seed Austin P. or number three seed Eastern Kentucky. The four seed with twelve and six in conference play but very very top heavy conference tournament here with. Belmont Murray State and then Austin piece so we don't have odds for this one out yet but how will you kinda stack ranking those three teams? I mean you want to talk about. Three teams. Battled out the entire year between. I mean if you guys didn't follow the valley between Belmont Murray State and Austin pay I Murray States wanted what three straight years now and you know again you have. Belmont with a first year head coach and I see Murray State to me as the team that I am going to bet. If if comes favored I am definitely taking Murray state in the number two spot you have you know when you're all conference all conference teams are basically going to be Belmont. Murray State in Austin. Pay Your top five guys in the conference you got multiple players with. Belmont with Murphy and Museum Ski and Murray State. Of Course Kevin. Brown and K Jay Williams are are just dynamite. I I'm going to go with the racers to win to win for a to win for a fourth straight time and I normally don't like taking teams with freshmen guards. And you know they have. They have Carter and Smith Freshman at the playoffs and and split the point but you know in in thirty games in. You're not really a freshman Even in their losses to me they held serve at home. That's what you do a good. A very good team wins at home. You lose on the road and you lose close games a seven point loss to Belmont. Nothing wrong with that. A three point lost in pay. Nothing wrong with that and three star three point loss to Eastern Illinois back on February twentieth so Murray State for me and then you know depending how far I might take a flyer on eastern Kentucky Again. Just because their uniqueness of being one of the fastest pace teams the hectic nece they bring you know the top the top ten in the country as far as tempo goes the only other fast team. There's only two teams in the top ninety with tempo in the Ohio Valley Belmont and Eastern Kentucky. So it sets those two apart. But I'm GonNa go with the Best Defense Murray state and with the been there done that and have one. I believe three straight make four straight. This one would be the third straight for them Jacksonville. State One and twenty seventy state team in two thousand seventeen only with eight and conference play so a rare down year for the racers. They have won back-to-back year though as their third straight one this year. What's interesting about this conference again? The double by four the top two seeds so Belmont and Murray state each only have to win. Two Games Austin P. has to play Thursday night then they'd likely run into Murray State if they win that game so that makes it really tough for Austin and again. They're one of those money line rollover kid. It's where the end are going to be a big favourite in the quarter final game but there'll be a dog to Murray state and they'll be a dog to Belmont in all likelihood here so maybe in Austin P. moneyline rollover going to be a better option than the street futures price but should be a good one there in Evansville. It was a good one on today's segment with Ralph michaels professional handicapper over at wagertalk dot com rough. Great to get you back on the show here man. What's going on over at the website right now? Well it's a nine dollar Monday. Every every packages only nine dollars and Tuesday's a great way for you to try capper. If you haven't seen the main Capela in Tuesday's two dollars so a lot of March madness information up there the NBA stat sheet goes up daily which breaks down the NBA over the last two weeks. And I'll of course be doing the first pitch that daily. Mlb newsletter with two full pages on every game. That'll get put out daily and it's always free homepage. Wagertalk DOT COM. What's GONNA make you fall? Ralph on twitter at Cal Sports. Lv and check out his work over at WAGERTALK DOT com. Ralph always a pleasure. Thank you so much for chatting with me and we'll talk to you again hopefully real soon. Thanks I appreciate it there you go. There's Ralph Michaels professionally together over at Wagertalk Dot Com at CAL sports. Lv on twitter coming up on our Tuesday initiative radio we'll chat with Brian blessing host sportsbook radio and Vegas Outline. We'll talk some NHL. We'll talk some golf. 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Patriot, Big South, Horizon, NEC, Ohio Valley, Missouri Valley, & West Coast Conference Tournaments Picks & Predictions
"We're talking a lot of conference tournament stuff. You're interacting with Kyle hunter of hunter sports fix dot com. And also bang book dot com, and we talk a lot about money line rollovers. We talk about looking for futures prices in these conference tournaments here. We also talk about hedging, and there are a lot of different ways. You can go about this future's market here in the month of March and one of them. You're a sports better, you about prop swap, let me tell you. It's one of the coolest things I've seen in a very long time. Here's how prop swap works. Let's say one hundred dollars futures. But on Michigan to win the NC double eight championship. They win their first two games. And you decide you know, what I want to guarantee some profit here. Well, you can listed for sale on props up and get paid early. It's that simple last year, for example, berry from Las Vegas ornate ten dollar ticket into a thousand dollars after just four games by selling on prop slop. So just gives you another opportunity gives you some different outs here in the futures betting market seeking go to prop swap dot com slash. TB to get started prop. Swap dot com slash BT. Be legal in a lot of states will have Ian on here in the month of March to talk a little bit more about props off. But you can go get a feel for what they have going on check out. What's available? Also, see what's for sale here? Over at props off dot com slash BTV. We got one more guest one more segment left for this. Tuesday, dish bang. What segment with Kyle hunter of hunter sports fix dot com. And also bang the book dotcom. How's it going today man going well, man, I always look forward to these shows? I didn't do I always look forward to them. And then blog talk radio does it's usual, Shannon. It's bullshit here today. So doing things a little bit differently as we're recording on Skype editing and cobbling together the show trying to get it out to you as quick as we possibly can here with three conference tournament starting tonight. The patriot the big south, and the horizon, the ace son started last night, we talked about that one last Friday. So Kyle before we get into these specific conference tournaments. We w-. Will cover seven of them on today's segment. Let's talk about some general notes here of things that people want to look for. Yeah. I think there's several things that people should know ahead of time before you dive deep end each conference. First of all, you know, there's a big difference between neutral site tournaments in home normal home locations for conference tournaments in totals betting youngsters have been much better on neutral sites. You know? It's split exactly even to fifty three to fifty three on normal home location. So the underst- fifty two point two percent on neutrals in a conference tournament game and keep in mind, this is on a closing line. These are very commonly bad now. So the opening line would certainly be higher than fifty two point two percent on yonder. The other thing I wanted to point out was totals of one forty nine and a half or higher on a neutral site and conference tournaments one ninety one and one forty eight the under on the closing line. That's fifty six point three percent. Now, let me ask you this. I'm kind of curious your take on something like this. We talk about unders being good on neutral or at neutral sites. Do you feel like the under is? Stronger early in the tournament because it's a neutral site and the teams are getting used to it or is the under stronger later in the tournament when fatigue can be more of a factor, and the games are increasing in importance. This is a tough question. I don't think I know the answer to this because you know, you say well teams not used to that location. So the first game would be lower for shooting percentages. But there are some really strong angles for both teams playing on a back to back in that second game. The under has been very good. I think the under probably is even better multiple days. Once you get later into the tournament partially also because it means more, you know that game. You're you're that much closer, especially in these small conferences, you're not gonna make it unless you get to unless you win the automatic berth in most of these teams are not going to get the at large. So I think the games mean more and you play the day before. So I would lean toward that. However, I don't think that the under the bad play on the first day either because you know, the shooting backdrops are. Different. If you're used to playing there, then I think that you know, the longer in the tournament it goes, the better the under would be without any rest, but you know, the neutral sites where you're not used to playing there at all. I think the under has some value early on in probably even more later. All right. So again, we talk about totals for conference tournaments fifty two point two percent to the under on a neutral floor. Exactly fifty percent on the campus sites. So what about some ATS considerations for the conference tournaments favorites? Overall or fifty point seven percent ATS. So favorites have been a little bit better. That's a really large sample size. But I wanted to point out that laying a big numbers benun profitable dogs of fifteen points or more sixty seven and forty six ATS. That's fifty nine point three percent. This makes a lot of sense to me you take a team. That's a huge underdog. They've likely been pretty bad here at the end of the regular season. They probably didn't even care the end of the regular season. Now, they care because this is their last chance, I think it makes a lot of sense that underdogs of fifteen points or more would cover it a pretty good rate. Now, obviously, you're not gonna see too many of those because you know, most teams aren't going to be underdogs by that many points. But something to keep in mind when you. Go to laying a big number in conference tournaments as we said, you know, laying a big number when it comes to the end of the regular season can make a lot of sense, but here in conference tournaments. It is not another one that I wanted. I wanted to point out rested teams at least a day off in between their games playing against teams that are back to back. Fifty two point eight percent ATS on the rest of the team. Fifty four point nine percent ATS when their opponent won by single digits the day before again, this is a hard fought game. They just one by single digits. It goes up to fifty four point nine percent ATS you filter that down by favorites of five and a half points or less or an underdog in this spot one hundred sixty six ATS sixty point two percent. So definitely the rested teams while they may get a bit of a slow start because the other team has been playing in his accustomed to this gym, and the long term it it would allow him. It will even self out and even more with the rest of the teams being good. I will say that. I think that the the second half. Half in these arrested teams would have even more value. I'd I don't have a way to search that. But I would guess that you know, in the first half they got to get things going a little bit in the second half. He's arrested teams likely do even better yet angle makes a lot of sets. And in fact, you know, as we're looking here, we do have some more data to back that up in terms of looking at the first half and some over and under an ATS transfer that first half only underdogs of five and a half points or more in the first half or fifty three and a half percent ATS since two thousand five to forty four and two twelve ATS. They're also unders fifty two and a half percent in first-half conference tournaments since two thousand five the understand a little bit better in the first half dozen the full game. Again, I think this makes sense because you know, at the end of the game, you can get some epoch foul fests in these conference tournaments teams. Don't want their season to be over. And you have the a lot of games are in locations that you're not used to playing in in the first half the shooting numbers would likely. Be even worse are says we give into these conference tournament breakdowns here. I know we had lists or questions regarding money line rollovers regarding tournament venues that were very good for the over very good for the under will work those in to our breakdown of these conference tournaments. We will hit seven of them here on today's show from this point forward. Again, my apologies for the technical issues. Stay that kind of pushed back the release time for today's show. I know it's important to get this out with three conference tournaments today. But you know, things happen, and I apologize for that. But let's go ahead and get into these year beginning with the patriot league. Now, again, this is one of those conferences that wasn't regularly lined up until this season. We've done all of our conference breakdown. So our listeners have a little bit of an idea of what to expect with these teams here you've got Colgate. The favourite plus one thirty over at five times plus one ten at Ben online Hucknall plus one ninety Lee high plus five fifty American plus nine hundred. Nobody else really has a chance to win this conference tournament as always shop around for the best prices. But let's start to break. This thing down here. Kyle what are you seeing from the patriot league? Well to me you look at Colgate. They get the top seed thanks to about. Now really struggling at the end of the season. That's key for having home games here, certainly higher seed hosting. There's nothing strong here for over unders if you look back at the patriot league, it's almost exactly fifty fifty definitely pace wars in this conference. There's plenty of teams that wanna play fast teams. I want to slow it down. I don't think this draws a straightforward as it looks though. I think Colgate being favoured in the betting market and yesterday, they were even a bigger betting favorite. I mean, it makes sense that the top seeds a little bit of a favorite. I would say, but you know, they have homecourt advantage. But they don't have an easy drawl. If Boston you wins at first game Boston you already wanted Colgate. Earlier this year Colgate being American twice if American would. Play them after that they beat them by four points. And that was a comeback win. American was added most of that game. And then once by over in overtime by two points. So American has arguably the best player in this conference in Nelson. So I think Colgate has a difficult draw there at the top, you know, Bucknell has been here before knows how to win it number one in defensive efficiency in the league. Certainly you can say the Bucknell didn't finish the year out very well. And that I would agree with that. But, you know, having one this before I think means quite a bit. I liked Bucknell. Some in this conference, certainly Lee high wanted to mention I can't take them here. They're Owen four against Bucknell. Colgate number seven in defensive efficiency in the league to me. You know, this is a team that they have a good offense. They can outscore you sometimes. But I don't wanna count on them to have to do that every game because they don't have a defense, and they haven't proven they could beat the top teams in the league. And to me that's a pretty big red flag. What I put up. This conference servant preview. I hit these pretty quickly after the odds were released yesterday posted him obeying the book dotcom. Colgate was in the plus one ten range Bucknell plus two fifteen American plus seven twenty five American has gone up now to plus nine hundred but you and I were talking yesterday. This Colgate price was getting out of control somebody that really liked. Colgate was hammering them over and over and over again, you wind up catching Bucknell plus four sixty which is a phenomenal price grab in the patriot league here so kudos to you for that. But you're the team really intriguing to me is American because American is a team here that draws a very weak five seat in navy in the first game. And then as you mention played Colgate, very tough early on the thing is we have to weigh whether plus nine hundred is worth it or the money line rollovers worth it. I think the money line rollover would probably be better in this case if you look at. This conference. There are a lot of close games in this conference. So they won't be a huge underdog. But I know that American their prices moved allow around a lot. I mean, honestly in general this conference, the odds of been very strange like you said, you know, Colgate, I think was minus one eighty or minus one seventy at one point. And then also I know American was plus twelve hundred last night. So the price has gotten worse there since last night, plus twelve hundred I probably would have taken the futures price. I think now the money line rollover makes sense. You know, and as we say in the past, and I'll go ahead and just tease it a little bit here. Now Moneyline rollovers the biggest positive to them as you don't have to worry about how to hedge you can just bet the money line rolled over to the next game. And then whenever you want to stop you can just stop or you can even bet less. You don't have to put everything you just had from the game before into it. So I think it's easier to to figure out what to do in the next game. Well, of course, as we look at this. We don't have odds out for Thursday's American versus navy game American is at home in that game. They will be a pretty clear favourite in that spot on thinking what Kyle maybe six seven point something like that. Maybe even a little bit bigger of a number there. But they would be a dog keep in mind. This is a home-court advantage tournament. So they would be a dog on the road at Colgate. They would be a dog on the road at Bucknell. That's why you think about the money line rollover because you start with a position you'll let's say that you have to start with just to make the math. Eighty two fifty to win a hundred on the American money line on Thursday. Then you've got three fifty to roll into them as an underdog against Colgate. Let's say they're maybe plus one fifty there. So you've got your three fifty investment plus one fifty you win that one. Then you go on you've got the Bucknell game as you go through this here, you're going to yield more of a return than plus nine hundred in most cases with American unless there's some weird upset or something like that. Which is why the money roll over makes sense. Yeah. I think so too. And I think Colgate would likely be favored by six and a half or seven points against Americans. So that being the case, then you get a pretty decent price on the money line just in that game. So I think that a lot of these we talked about this yesterday. I'd say maybe somewhere in the eighty eighty five percent range the money line rollovers probably going to finish ahead of the futures price. Certainly sometimes that you can get a strange features price to where it will make more sense. But. The money line rollovers, obviously some downside to that. You have to remember rolled-over and bet the next game. You know, if your very busy the next day, you might miss the tip off, or if you had the futures price you'd already have it. But at the same time, you get the positive about hedging because I know that hedging can be pretty complicated on futures. And it's something that we get quite a few questions about that. You know, how much do I put on this team? You know, how much will have left if they lose this game. Or if they win this game and keep going, you know, it's certainly easier. If you have money line roll over like, I said because then you can just decide you wanna bet less on it or you wanna stop. And if you stop then you just win what you had right? And a lot of cases it's going to be really easy to see these when the team is going to be a dog in all of their games because then it's just, you know, very simple math because you can start with the hundred dollar position or whatever. And then you can see it gradually increase and that it's very easy to do. The math and see it go higher than the futures price. Here because you have to put out the bigger initial investment on American because they'll be a clear favourite in that first game. It's a little bit different. But again, as you said a couple of really big advantages higher profit potential and also you hedge by not betting it anymore or by betting a smaller amount. So it gives you a much better opportunity there with that excuse me. We will get some better examples of this than American as we go throughout the conference tournaments here at one of them specifically that we'll talk about tomorrow east, Tennessee State in the so con-, well, we move onto the big south conference tournament here. This is another one at campus sites to would degree the first round at the campus sites. The quarterfinals in the semi-finals at the number one seed, which is the Campbell fighting Campbell's here this time, and then the highest remaining seed hosts the championship game on Sunday. So first games at campus sites quarterfinals at semi's at Campbell than a championship at Campbell. If they get there. But at the highest seeded team if they don't so what are you looking at here in the big south Kyle? Well, first thing is I wanted to say that favorites of seven and a half points or less in this conference tournament or thirty two and twenty one in the last fifty three so small favorites have done well here in the big south. You know, I think that this is an interesting conference in that Radford seems like they're the best team in this conference. I do think that they are the best team in this conference, but they have two tough losses against Campbell. They blew lead. And both of those games. You got Chris Clemens. A lot of fun to watch their Campbell. Definitely can carry his team. I still think that Radford, you know, is the team that I that I like in this conference. I liked their non conference schedule. I liked that they played up in the non conference that they were able to win some of those games. And they have a pretty veterans team a good coach plus two hundred now in five times I liked Radford here. I think that they would be the one that I would play if you're just looking for who you think will actually win this conference tournament. Another team that I wanted to say here Hampton, I think Hamptons a team to watch here because they match up pretty well against Campbell. And you look at the regular season they beat them once they lost once by three points germane Mero, a star here for Hampton. I think he's capable of taking a break game. Certainly. So as Chris Clements, and you have to give a shout out to the fighting camels. That's a pretty awesome nickname. But you know, I don't I don't want to discount Campbell in this one. But I do think that they might be a week or once eat and some of the seeds that we see the top line. And a lot of the other conferences, they'd you look at Hampton last year they were one win from the NCAA tournament. And now they go over the big south. I mean, I think Hampton could make a run here. I don't think they'll win this conference tournament. But I think a Hampton money line rollover makes a lot of sense my pick to win it. Here would be Radford last night. It was plus one sixty it's plus two hundred now I d like Radford in Hampton Nightline rollover over here. Bradford plus two hundred Campbell. Again, the host team for the quarters and the semi's and the championship game. If they got their plus two fifty Winthrop plus four forty five Gardner Webb plus nine hundred Charleston. Southern is the team that I like here as a little bit of a longer shot plus eleven hundred in this one they were plus seven hundred when the odds open so much better price. Now, I'd have to actually take a look and see how the money line rollover would look with them. They do play tonight, but they play USC upstate there. Two touchdown favorite in that game. Then they would play Winthrop Thursday afternoon. They lost to Winthrop twice, but they lost by four points. And then lost in double overtime by two points, so Charleston southern who split with Radford only lost by a point to Campbell. They're the team that I like here in this conference where the money line rollover, probably would make more sense. Yeah. I think so as well. And I think that makes sense also because I'm trying to stay away from winter up here. I think that they have too many turnovers. Problems. They're not very good defensively this year, I know Winthrop's done well in the past. They don't really have the veteran presence that they've had a lot of other times in the past think this winter team is weaker than a lot of those teams. We've seen certainly I think the Charleston southern side looks like a decent underdog as well. And I do think the money line roll over would be a good way to go in that one. I think Radford winces conference tournaments. So I liked plus two hundred. I think Hampton and Charleston southern a pretty good sleepers as well. Well, and again you look at Charleston southern here. You don't start the money line rollover tonight because there are fourteen and a half point favorite. There's absolutely no reason to start at that point. What they'll be a dog to winter on Thursday. They'll be a dog to Radford on Friday, and they would be a dog in the championship game in all likelihood on Sunday. So that's why you start to look at money line rollover because if you've got a team it's an underdog in three straight games, and you can roll that over you roll your hundred dollar bet over with three underdog plays. That's gotta be worth more certainly than the seven hundred that was out there at first and probably more than the eleven hundred right now as well. Yeah. It'd been way more than seven hundred it's like a little bit more than eleven hundred as well. You know, I think that this is a conference where you know. It's not easy to say who's going to win this when I think Radford if they had hosted this tournament would have been a pretty big favorite. But since they don't get it home, you know, their plus two hundred instead to me that gives you value on Radford. I think they're the best team. But, you know, there are plenty of openings in this tournament in that, you know, I don't I don't really think that the the one seed the three seed are very strong, which gives you some shots to try to take some of these money on rollovers because then you have some teams that even if they don't win it all they could make it pretty decent run ear well in another thing you can do with these conference tournaments here. And I realize we're spending a lot of time on the big south. But this one sets up pretty well. For a lot of our talking points, you take Charleston southern and Radford as sort of double teaming win price. Because as you said, you don't think Winthrop's are very good team wanna turnover problems. Well, if Charleston southern beats went through then you're free rolling in the semifinals with both wind or with both Charleston. Southern and Radford you're guaranteed to get one of those teams in the championship game against probably a week number one in Campbell. So you're basically double teaming that three see that you think is pretty weak, and you can do that as almost a hedge against Charleston southern as well. Yeah. Definitely I like that type of strategy where you might have a chance of being being there on both sides. And if you're there on both sides like you said, then you're going to have one team at least get through. I will point out that you know, when I say Campbell's week or one seed Winthrop's a week or three seat. I'm not saying that they can't win this conference tournament a certainly could happen. And it won't shock me. I just think that it creates value because I think more times than not more times than what the price shows right now, you would have some value going with the underdog based on the fact that those teams have shown question marks, you know, they're not the the really strong one seat or the really strong three. See that really proved a lot in non conference slate or just beat up on teams in the conference. So I think that just gives us a chance to look for these values. All right. So we move onto the horizon league tournament, which starts tonight games on the campus sites. There's two tonight I believe in two tomorrow. And then next week we go out to a Little Caesars arena in Detroit for this. One northern Kentucky is the two seed, but the favorite plus one sixty right state, the number one seed plus to ten Oakland is three there. Plus five hundred Green Bay's, the four there nine seventy five Illinois, Chicago, you I see is the five they're fourteen hundred the number eight seed UP y who plays right state tonight in as a seven and a half point dog is next plus fifteen hundred then Detroit mercy and Youngstown state to round this thing out. So first let's start with the venue here for Little Caesars arena coming up next week Monday. Tuesdays when they'll be in Detroit. This is a relatively new. Host for this tournament. Yeah. I mean, there's there's not much data to go on here. Just slight nudge the under based on the results of recent. But I would say that I think this this venue should play to the under some it's twenty thousand seat complex horizon league teams are not used to playing in that they're also not going to have these seats full. Obviously, there's no way they're going to be that many people show up to watch his conference ernment, and we've talked about in the past that it's a negative for shooting shooting backdrop when you have a massive facility, and you know, a very small amount of people in it. I don't want to guess how many people be there. I just know it won't be even close to twenty thousand you know, when you get a massive arena like that. And there's so many empty seats. It's a little bit harder to shoot, you know, you see so many empty seats. You're also not used to how deep the backdrop is things like that when you're playing in venues where there aren't near as many seats normally. So I think that even though the Little Caesars arena, we don't have much. On it. I think it certainly nudges too the under at least some and I will say that the rise in league has been a pretty good under league this year because there's so many any fishing offenses that teams that play really fast. So you get some high totals, but they don't make that many shots. So certainly would lean toward the under and the games that get to Little Caesars arena on as we look at the horizon league as a whole here. There are some shenanigans in this conference tournament to number four seeds in number two seed the last three years in twenty fourteen number five seat one and the last two years in the conference tournament title game, a number eight seed in Wisconsin, Milwaukee number ten seed in Cleveland, maybe it's the other way around but other way, eight seed and a ten seed have been the losers in the conference tournament championship game. So this thing can be very wide open. Absolutely. It's been one of the most wide open of all of them. And I was looking at yesterday with the the odds on five times the number one through seat. Three seed wins the horizon league championship. I think yesterday was minus three twenty five or somewhere in that range today. It's only minus two seventy five so likely somebody has been betting the number four through eight seat to win the horizon league championship. I wouldn't blame you, you know, plus to thirty five now it was better price than that before. Like, you said some strange things have happened here. Why should be surprised if something like that happens this year? No, I really won't the question is who could it be, you know? And I think you I see has a chance of being it. I'm pretty confident UIC is the one that you could do better than plus fourteen hundred on money line rollover, I mean because they're an underdog right off the bat. So you know, they're going to be an underdog every single game. I think you get better than plus fourteen hundred. I honestly think that anybody who plays against right state and that second game if they get past UP, you I which they probably will because I you is been in pretty bad form here late but whoever plays that game right state. Either Green Bay are you I see could could have run year. I mean, I think that right state certainly beatable if you look at Wright state one reason I wanted to say there's a couple of reasons why I'm going against right state, or I would look to go against right state here a tough path. I mean, even UP you I even though I think they'll beat them. Not an easy game for them. UIC? Green Bay think's very tough match-up and number two right state has been really really bad against on defense assists year. According to synergy sports, they rank in the top twenty four percent in the country in offense of efficiency against man defense. The rank in the bottom five percent of all teams in the country against zone defense. Now, you know, somebody's gonna put his own against them because everybody can see that data. You know, that that's one of those things where coaches are going to watch the tape. They're going to see the data somebody's going to try zone defense against right state. And you got a new shooting backdrop there at Little Caesars arena. I think this sets up pretty badly here for right state. I agree. Right state has a really really tough draw one of my video picks over on our bang book YouTube pitch today was UPI plus the points. No. They haven't played particularly well, but in their last six games, they're losses or by a combined twenty three points. They lost their last game by eleven points to Detroit to Oakland before that five games. You know, what their losses by a combined eleven or twelve points. So you know, they were playing a lot of close games. They just weren't winning them. They should play close game again tonight. And then if you run into Green Bay or Illinois Chicago in that semifinal game next Monday bolted those teams like to play at a quicker tempo as well. Green Bay specifically top ten in the country and tempo then you've got to turn around and play probably northern Kentucky on Tuesday northern Kentucky is a team that both you and I like your as well. Yeah. I think northern Kentucky is likely the best team in the conference. Drew McDonald has been injured. I came back and played pretty well in his first came back here. So I hope that he is healthy because. Certainly he means a lot to this northern Kentucky team if you know anything about northern Kentucky. You know that everything runs through. Drew McDonald veteran leader I liked the northern Kentucky has what I would consider one of the best coaches here. They've had a lot of success in this conference in the past. I think that you know, success can breed success and things like this because you get to that point. You're not in all of the big stage. So I like northern Kentucky as the team that I think will win this conference tournament. I also like if you look at northern Kentucky's drawl, I mean, look at your they have I've heard some people say northern tuck has to play against teams who are so close to home, you know, at Little Caesars arena, this this is one where well first of all is is it the home team's people hosting the first game. Is that right atom? Yes. So Detroit has to go to northern Kentucky. And then northern Kentucky would play at Little Caesars arena in the semifinals. Correct. Right. Okay. Yes. So they only have. One game. Like that Detroit would not have any kind of homecourt advantage. You got northern Tukhy look at the amount of points. They put up against Detroit in those two games. Detroit's defense very weak. If they get past him in that game, they play Oakland or Youngstown state who could pull that upset. I like campy a good coach for Oakland. But Oakland's defense is really bad as well. Northern Kentucky is the one balanced team down the bottom of that bracket. I think this bracket sets up really well for them to be in the championship game. It wouldn't surprise me. If we see like a northern Kentucky verse you I see championship or not in Kentucky versus Green Bay something. Like that. That's why I think it makes a lot of sense to play northern Kentucky as the team that's most likely to win this conference tournament. And then put something small on one of the teams from the top as well it northern Kentucky, plus one forty over a better line, plus one sixty at five times so get shop around for the best price. But it does look like northern Kentucky of the team that you and I both like here in this conference tournament. So again. I apologize for the technical issues here today. I will get this up as quickly as possible to get thoughts out on those three conference tournaments that start tonight. What we shift our focus to Wednesday here. Sorry about the northeast conference. And really this is a hard conference to peg because you've got see Francis Pennsylvania, plus one eighty five fairly Dickenson plus to ten secret heart, plus three eighty Bobby Morris, plus eight hundred than plus eighteen hundred on down from there. And we look we talked about this. The winner of this conference plays a sixteen versus sixteen play in game in Dayton and probably gets beaten there. Yeah. Likely. Hope you have a stronger team that you like more than I do in this one. I like to give you something that I really like here. I just really don't like anything in this conference. I will say a couple of stats here. The underdog forty one in twenty five ATS in the last sixty six in this conference tournament dogs of three points or more thirty seven and twenty ATS. We see a lot of close games here. That makes a lot of sense to me. There's no dominant team not that's going to run away with here. I think Saint Francis. Probably the best team in this conference. We talked about them. What was it last week? It was pretty recently. You know, their value was only it was only plus one twenty last night. So the odds of certainly gotten better on them here today, I think they're the best team in this conference. But I don't think there's any wide margin. As you look at it. Because they've been tripped up by of teams in this turnament or in this conference throughout the year. I think that this is one where you could see some, you know, really low rated team that wouldn't expect get pretty far in it as. Well, so maybe wanna take some kind of really long shot here fairly Dickinson a team that I usually wouldn't like because their jump shot heavy though, they have some really good metrics on the road. This season has la- metrics and other goods website to look at has them in the top thirty and performance on the road so far this season. So I like that that they even though they're jump shot heavy team. They've been able to make those shots on the road. They've been able to win on how to games that way. So so maybe a little bit of value with them. But only, you know, just a little over plus two hundred. So I I can't say that I like anything very much here. Yeah. There there's really not a whole lot that. I like you're either one thing that is kind of interesting here in one thing that could add some potential value to the Saint Francis. Pa side is that this tournament discomforts firm. It does reseed after the first round game. So if there's an upset Saint Francis theoretically could face in eight to six or an eight and a seven something like that in the first two games here. Which would obviously give them a pretty good advantage on Saturday. But also Saint Francis team that lost to the eighth seed lost to the seven seed and lost six during the regular season. So there's obviously no guarantee that Saturday goes any better for them based on who they wind up facing. I kind of liked Robert Morris a little bit just because they started really well in conference play seven and one. But then went four and six the rest of the way and wass to the two teams that didn't even qualify for the conference tournament. So kind of hard to like them hard to like say Francis. This conference sermon that I'm going to stay away from I don't see a whole lot of value. If my head to do something because Saint Francis Pennsylvania could get lucky with that drawn the event of an upset and plus one sixty I guess they've got the best chance. Yeah. And plus plus one eighty five so I mean, it's it's one of those where I if I had that it I bet that as well. But I don't have to bet it. We don't have to bet this one. So I'm not going to bet this one. I we have tons of conference tournaments to talk about anything disc can be better values. Elsewhere and the next to convert shirts, we're gonna talk about very very interesting. I really love the Ohio valley conference tournament. I it's probably my favorite low major conference tournament here of this conference tournaments cycle. You've got four teams that are very very good in this conference. I would say three probably that actually have a good shot to win it. Belmont your favorite plus one ten Murray. State your second favorite, plus one fifty five those teams get double. Size into the semi-finals. So huge advantage for Belmont Murray. State Jacksonville state, plus seven twenty five Austin P, plus eleven hundred nobody else has shot. And the odds reflect that interesting thing about the venue here for this tournament. It's no longer at the national municipal auditorium. Like it used to be had a new venue last year, and they're back there again this year. Yeah. That's a bummer for total spatters because the Nashville venue is an under machine this great one to two spent the Onder and forget about especially the first half under Ford center, new venue, unknown to me, whether this is a good one for the Onder or not last year. It wasn't particularly good for the Onder. But it's one year. You know, I think we need to give this a little bit of time. You know, I think the Belmont makes sense to be the favourite here Murray state easily the second favorite. Look those two are favored by so much because of the setup of this conference tournament like you said the double by we rarely see. Now that makes a big difference. You know, you play one last game one less chance of having a really poor shooting night. Jacksonville state a distant third. I have to say that. I think Murray states a little bit overvalued here a near they'll oughta people won't like that Morand is a tremendous player. I have nothing negative to say about him think he'll be good NBA player. But the group around him is not as good as Murray state, usually has you know, he's gotten a lot of publicity this year as well. I think Murray state has one massive weakness, and that's defense of rebounding and two of the other top teams here in this league. Can take advantage of that in Jacksonville state and Austin P Jacksonville state beat Murray state bad in the one game that they played against them there. I think it was a twenty point win. So you've got Murray state team that I think is a little bit overvalued Belmont. I can't say anything negative about them. You know, they're they're very good every year. Very well. Coached to me though, you will. Look at this conversation moment, I think you and I are on same page here. Ray Harper really good coach Jacksonville state, the third most experienced team in the conference. I have to lie. Jacksonville state here. I think you would get better price certainly than plus seven twenty five on the money line rollover. They have to play more games. I know it it would not surprise me. Jacksonville state winces conference tournament. I think they certainly have a chance to do. So, you know, the the schedule sets up pretty well for them in that they stay away from Belmont. I like Jacksonville state here. Yeah. I mean, I think this is one of those where I would look to take a position on Belmont. I know the favorite plus one ten, but they're the best team in this conference and that double by very advantageous. And Furthermore, Austin P is a much easier. Semi-final game the Jacksonville state. So I take Belmont. Plus the one ten and then look at the Jacksonville state Moneyline rollover as well. And you don't need to start that Jacksonville state roll over until you get to that game against Murray state because. They'll be a big it's eastern, Illinois or UT Martin. So I wouldn't worry about it there. I would look for a two game Moneyline rollover Jacksonville state with Murray state and Belmont. And obviously if you've got Belmont in pocket, plus one ten you free rule the championship game of Jacksonville state. It's right. Yeah. I mean, you set to watch what what amount you put on each side there. You know, you wouldn't want to bet. Belmont huge. And then just have Jacksonville state as a small play. But, you know, watch your unit sizes. I think the Belmont is certainly deserving as a favorite here. The bruins. Like, I said, I can't really say anything negative about them. They're always very good the best coach in the conference. I think Harper's the second best coach in this conference though. I think Belmont Jacksonville state final. Here's is pretty likely. All right. So we moved to the Missouri valley conference tournament here, and this one it looks a lot different. When you don't have teams like Creighton or Wichita state in the field this year. It is. Very very spread out. Probably the most spread out. I can remember this thing being little all Chicago. Plus one eighty Drake plus four hundred southern Illinois five fifty Missouri. State five seventy five Bradley eight fifty northern Iowa twelve hundred even teams like Illinois state, only eighteen hundred Indiana, twenty two hundred valpo and Evansville, five thousand the first thing we have to talk about though with this conference tournament is the venue in Saint Louis yet the Onder is eighty four and forty three in the last one twenty seven Missouri valley conference tournament contests sixty six point one percent unders that's pretty impressive over that period of time. The number goes up to sixty eight point six percent unders on totals one twenty or higher. So I'm not saying one forty or something really high one twenty or higher sixty eight point six percent. Unders Scott Trade Center, proven very very good under arena. I don't think we'll have a better under. Arena in any of the games. We talk about the only other one that could be as Madison Square Garden, you know, in Scott train is right up there with that. Which is saying a lot because MSG is a proven very good under arena the caveat. I have about this one though, everybody knows this. Now, you know a few a few years ago. You would have had, you know, one thirties and the line would just stay put now you're gonna have one twenty five is what it opens at. And then it's going to take down to one twenty or you know, somebody's going bet it down hard. So if you like the under here in any of these games, I really suggest you bet it early rather than late. I think it's really impressive to me that they've had that many unders against the closing line. Even though the last couple years it has been getting that down pretty consistently. This is a conference tournament that it would be. I just would not play an over here. The question is whether I play under or not I think the value is not nearly as good as what it would have been a few years ago. But you know, Scott Trade Center an arena where I don't want any part of the over. So as we look at this conference, by the way, they rename this arena, the enterprise centre different naming rights. So just nobody gets confused. It's still the same venue, just the enterprise centre this time around instead of the Scott Trade Center. So don't get confused by that it is still the same building still the same under machine still the same bad shooting backdrop now this covers from it starts on Thursday the eight nine game then the seven ten game. He eight nine winner replace it six oh five central time on Thursday, please loyalist Chicago at twelve oh five in the afternoon on Friday, huge advantage delillo Chicago over either Indiana state or Valparaiso not so bad for the seven ten game that police Drake at six zero five. So what do you think about teams for this thing? Obviously, it's an under machine kind of arena. And you know, hey, maybe that affects the teams that you want to take because you wanna look at teams that play really good defense. They get. An inherited vantage here what this thing's Lytle. Yeah. I I will say I think the valley conferences much weaker than it was years ago. You know, I watched quite a bit of in VC basketball this year. I was not impressed with the the level of play a few years ago. This was a really good mid major. They're not near as good as they were a few years ago. I will say that I think that loyalist Chicago is the team with the highest upside here, I don't really want to take any sleeper team around them because they're so good on defense. They play the way that they they wanna play. They're gonna make you play slow. They're going to win with defense taking care of the basketball. This is a good loyalist Chicago team that kind of underachieved throughout the course of the season wouldn't wanna go against them. I think the Drake is a nice story. I think the first year coach dairy and debris did a tremendous job. I think they're very vulnerable as a two seat though. So I'm looking for value against them. So you go to the bottom of the bracket. And you say, you know, who who do I like in the bottom bracket, I think there are two two options here that I I'd be fine with taking one. In southern Illinois, southern Illinois, a pretty pretty good team. Well, coached they have some depth. They can play different ways they can play a little faster if you wanna play faster, they can slow it down Drake wants to push. The peso Drake is one of the rare teams in this conference that wants to play faster the other team that I would say in the bottom. It noise state. Look Illinois state was a massive underachiever in the regular season here. They lost two games by the half court buzzer beaters that's going to bother you. I mean, if you lose two games that way, you're going to have trouble bouncing back from that. Illinois state did have trouble with that one. Always stay lost. A lot of close games before the season. They were picked by most people to be their second or third in this conference. And now they've got the seven seed I have to like them some here because Illinois state should beat Evansville in that first game, obviously wouldn't guarantee it because they've been so inconsistent. Then they played Drake Drake has had a tough time matching up against them. This year. And as I said, I think Drake is a week to seed. So Illinois state has a real shot to win a couple of games here. And then if they go play southern Illinois or northern Iowa, certainly that's a winnable game for them. So I think Illinois state either plus eighteen hundred or money line roll over, and I think that might be pretty close as to which would be better because it won't always state is going to be respected by the books. More than the average seven seat would be. Yeah, I liked this. You know, this is sort of like the same concept that we talked about in terms of teaming up on Winthrop where I like Illinois state against Drake. I like southern Illinois against Drake. I even to a degree northern Iowa against Drake. Right. Just feels like a bull number two seat. As you mentioned, you know, I kind of liked southern Illinois at first, but, you know, the price on southern Illinois plus five fifty way different than the price and Illinois state, plus eighteen hundred and Illinois state shouldn't have a problem in that first game against Evansville. They'll be a pretty clear favourite should take care of business there. Yeah. The fourth game doesn't really help. I guess, but it shouldn't lead to. That big of a price gap between them in southern Illinois. Southern Illinois does have a coin flip game against northern Iowa on Friday night that worries me for the Salukis if they had an easier first game. I would look to take them what? Because there's a decent chance. They lose that game to the Panthers. It is a little bit more difficult to take them. I think you've convinced me here on Illinois state. And again, the nice thing about state is if you don't wanna take them against loyalist, Chicago, if you're doing a Moneyline rollover you to stop. Right. Right. And if they get the lowest you cog, go, and you have plus team plus eighteen hundred then you're going to have plenty of room to hedge out if you do that as well. But I think that you know, the thing that makes me not like southern Illinois quite as much as I would have is exactly what you just said. Southern Illinois plays a tough game against northern Iowa. You know, I don't know if they'll win that game. Maybe they do. Maybe they don't I don't think that's much of an easier game than Illinois state against Drake. You know? I mean is northern I without much worse than Drake. I don't think. So I mean, they on a neutral they would be pretty close. So I think Illinois state just because they're at such a bigger price. That's the way I have to look, and I do think like I said, I think loyal was Chicago is favourite for a reason. So if you like Lois, Chicago, you could also take Loyola antique, Illinois state, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing either. Yeah. It's also a good idea again attacking it kind of for both sides there as we talked about a little bit with the the big south conference tournament. I agree. They got a stretch. What eighty is enough oil Chicago, I think because of their level of consistency relative to the rest of this conference. It's probably good enough to take. I think. Yeah. I think so too. I mean, we might get a little bit better price here. I know that these prices have moved around, and they usually get a little bit better later that kind of tighten up last use on them. So you know, you might get a plus two hundred on oil. If you do I think that's a good price. I think they're the most likely winner of this tournament, and obviously loyal played against a team like Eleanor stay they'd be at a big advantage based on state having to play so many games to get there. All right. So like, I said we had some technical issues here. Excuse me with the first run that we took at today's show because it blocked talk radio at least we can make up some time here by talking about the west coast conference because yeah, this is a one team race the only team that can beat Gonzaga is themselves. They are minus ten fifty to win this conference tournament. They won every conference game in the regular season by at least twelve points Saint Mary's plus seven fifty BYU plus three. Thousand San Francisco plus five thousand San Diego, plus eighty five hundred everybody else on down from there is there any betting value here in the west coast conference tournament. The lowest I see own I guess, minus eight fifty I mean that that might be a decent price. But I'm not gonna recommend taking my safe shifty. I can't do that. You know? I feel like if we say take team minus eight fifty we sound pretty bad. You know, I mean who really wants to lay fifty on a conference tournament. I don't I won't do it. I think it's AGA's gonna win this conference tournament. I think everybody knows that you know. I mean, you pointed out what gets it. I get was last year. What was it minus two hundred? Yeah. Nice to go back to that. Right. Yeah. I tell you what if they remind is two hundred. I'd be all over it. But so what if I remember correctly, we were all over it last year with Gonzaga, minus two hundred eight closed higher than that. Yeah. I think I remember that as well. I mean, this this is one where there's there's less of a threat to them this year. And there was last season. Saint Mary's is not as good as they wear San Francisco. Look like they had some potential earlier this year, and they really fizzled out later in the season. BYU yearly child's a really good player. They don't have as much depth though. I mean, it'd be stunning if anybody else wins this tournament, I will say that the only thing I may do here in this one is take a San Diego money line rollover. San Diego's a team that has played pretty well this year I liked their balance on offense and defense. I would definitely stop before Gonzaga. I will say that. So and again, I I'd bet this one really small if I did because it's hard to find much value here. I did want to say this far as the venue the over sixty and forty eight. And the last one eight year two west coast conference tournament Orleans arena is not known for a bag bad backdrop, so overs would be fine here totals of one forty eight and a half or higher at Orleans arena in this conference tournament or eight one to the over. I know that's not a big sample size. So I don't read a lot into that. I will just say that you can get some high scoring games here some shootouts in this one. And let's be honest. Why are there some shootouts and these because Gonzaga's putting up huge point totals? Well, and again, the reason why you look at the money line rollover for San Diego instead of playing the plus eighty five hundred is because you don't want to have to hedge Gonzaga as what probably a minus three thousand money line favorite in the championship game. I mean that just feels like it's not really worth it. So you just take San Diego on the money line rollover to beat BYU and beat Saint Mary's would be what you're looking for here in this conference sermon to try to extract some value. But as Kyle said at least the overlooks like something you can do with. Those late night degenerates special Seyran conference tournament week. So we got through all seven I think we did. So in a pretty reasonable amount of time here, we'll touch on five more on tomorrow's show that will be the MA AC the so-called the America east, colonial and the summit. Kyle hunter professionally together over at hunters sports picks dot com website, right? Oh, man. Lowered the prices here from March madness package can check that out one hundred sports fix dot com. Also, doing totals only special total, certainly my specialty. And I think everybody knows that listen to your I'm going to do two hundred ninety nine bucks for all my totals the rest of the season mentioned banged the book. Message me Kyle hunter sports fix dot com. Or at Kyle hundred picks on Twitter. And of course, you get your Kyle's daily article over a bang, book dot com and also yesterday posted his situational spots piece for this week here with the rest of the regular season nineteen conferences still doing the regular season in college basketball. So Kyle hunter hunter sports. Fixed dot com at Kyle hunter picks on Twitter. Thank you so much of your patience and flexibility today men, and I'll talk to you. Tomorrow sounds good to talk to you too. It. Lows knows you'll do it. Right. And do it yourself to stay within budget. When making updates to your bathroom. We do it right to by offering up to twenty percent off select toilets during the final days of our refresh for less kitchen and bath event step up your style. Even more with four tile starting at just forty nine cents a square foot for your next back project. Do it right for less. Start with Lowe's. 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College Basketball Conference Tournament Preview Part Two (Ep. 795)
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I got the Louisville's Jersey on shadow to travis enemy this but at the same time when I go to Vegas I plan to eat forty pizzas and thirty four nights. Okay Martin Papa. John I gotta do that. Living it up four PAPA. John I think there's more to the edibles edibles to get through this. You know we should probably start with this because this happens every year. Someone like Kobe is like Oh yeah. This is the year going to going to need some edibles. Now a vegas and I go. Hey who wants him ohno abby now me not not around just will hold on one second look last time you were Pushman last time. It's not a word Colby. Curtis Mayfield. Your push a man. You know what I mean. Come on get the fuck out. A pusher is a term for a drug pusher. Curtis Mayfield has a hit squad pushing me. I'm sorry you don't know what the Hell you're talking about here but it's about that anyway in Vegas. I'm in the hotel room and you go. You offer a bunch of YOU GUYS. Take One and you go to cover me. Want one early for recreational purposes entertainment purposes only. Want one now. I don't fuck with that stuff right. I've I've been down that road before you go. I have a much smaller one. Did you should take the much smaller one just to like. Be In and I'm like come on. It was like a tic TAC. And I'm like I do not take would ruin my fucking a nice dinner thirty dollar cocktails and I can't even I can't even fathom like what I'm putting in my mouth and my God damn it mental battle. Is this why you stopped showing up to corporate events? You have not participated a number of events presented by S. G. P. N. You've been completely missing perfect transition to our breaking news march eighteenth. We will be broadcasting live from the Caesar sportsbook and Beautiful Las Vegas. It is the night before the real tournament tips off. Not the first four so round to eve of the tournament. We're going to be in the sports book doing a live broadcast. Obviously if you're out in LAS VEGAS COMES STOP I say alot. Get a lighter. Get a free drink like the place on fire now. Don't do that but it's going to be It's going to be an awesome hang. Got a bunch of bunch of cocktails to enjoy. It's just excited. Getting the March madness plan going ready ready to go. And then if you're not in March madness you can watch of course YouTube dot com slash podcast streaming over on twitter as well. It's the whole it's a whole plants coming together. We'll go. We'll be there. Of course I don't know I mean you're like I'd say you're like minus one fifty. I feel good about showing up but there's a decent chance. Oh Hey my car and there was an issue. I dropped my dog off somewhere. I'll never faked on March madness right. I might have faked on. Nfl weakened or your little your little steak dinner in Pasadena Right. But Wow wow okay. I used participating in this sounding a lot. Like a bitter fifteen feet who got beat by a two in the first round of the bird against anybody? Let's do it. Let's do a update on the bracket of course the bikes bracket and this podcast sports gambling. Pack has dot com all presented by our good friends over a by booking dot E. G. head over to my bookie dot ag at that sweet sweet deposit bonus get ready chopard surname. It's march madness. Nba Live in game. Wagered ease sports they even got bets on Pinball. They got it all over my bookie dot. Ag Get a little taste of the action and of course the custom builder huge favorite Personally it's so awesome. Just go over to my book DOT G. He's a Promo Code S. G. P. Get up to one thousand dollars in a deposit bonus play when get paid using the Promo Code S. g. A. Let's do it. Let's check out the bites bracket Jason Garrett Raging Madden Penetration cruising by the classic. Lock other news. We have any Joe Buck region. What up the Puck Aka Kramer Sandra up cruising past Shakira? A lot of people had secure as a possible dog. Now I physically but ability to move on Kramer you possibly picked against yourself if it was video secure one. I agree and I didn't realize this before putting a bites bracket and this is why it's great to I didn't realize how controversial Shakira was. I thought she was just a a lead pipe. Lock a huge fan favourite because she controversy because it was Super Bowl John. Just going to the elite eight Sean. Some people don't like the Shaquir Sanjay up. Even a friend of the program Pat Fischer said you know. I'm not feeling it. Some people have strong anti secure play that I was not. I was not aware of I. I realize some people will. Does it work for. Some people works for me. You know what it is. They haven't they haven't had an experience with the Columbia John. This is yeah I was GonNa say this is where we're hanging vegas we're We're risking our lives going to a strip club with the corona virus outbreak. And we look over. Kobe's in the corner but the sound call me makes receiving the LAP dance. Come you're ready to go. Colombian from Columbia. And we don't give them your credit card. Regan's it's Pitt Bull. That's any call for help in the. Strip club here in the back room. All right we gotTA GET OUTTA here. I can't believe I won currently right now. Fourteen hours left as of tape time word of course recording. This late west goes down on a Tuesday night. We have oh hot hot. Hot squared off against that won't be some glory hole. He's from Gloria. In the Jason Kerr region right now. Glory hole only a few percentage points behind. It's fifty four percent for hot hot hot forty six percent per I want me some glory hall. So it's it's too close to call some networks are already calling it. They're already giving the Ohio moving on. I'm going to hold off because I think there could be some late entries. People are getting back in to check it out some college basketball. They're like Oh and over to add gamely podcasts. What's going on? Oh my God. What some glory hills about to run off the core a grassroots effort here for once glory hole can. Can we talk about the seating? Now awesome are all right. We shouldn't be that stoked our top eight teams. How would have advanced? I don't like I didn't deserve to be up against the but that lasted Coleman Dessert. Classic Koby the Committee's out to get me they're not I don't know what I mean it's rig now next herb. Luberon your blue fifteen blue moon but he just Joe. You're mango coconut milk. Delicious organic coconut water flavored like mango. Our top four seeds all advanced a little surprised. I advance with What THE FUCK. There'd be more upsets possibly the five twelve seaweed. Just talked about could be an upset. But it it's shaping up to be classic factual battle so again. Kudos to the committee next Joe Buck region. Thank you for participating in these works gambling podcast for participating in the Spurs game and podcast going up against the twelve CD. Lack dog tease. The deal is brutal here. Lock dog carried by Ryan's seeing the teas there. I'm pleased through a good one. This is a good one and it's a staple the show but so is thank you for participating in the sports gambling. Podcast I think the five seed may move on here but maybe this is when we first upset. And then of course we're going to be moved onto six elevens and that's where stuff is really. I do think the true fans the fans who have been with us for the long haul. The Boston cappers of the situation. They may enjoy hearing. A fan turned into a sound drop. It's not them so they're obviously going to they're going to. They're going to lean more towards that sentimental value of the walk dog tease. They probably also remember where they were. 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Automated Adamant maybe shop over a borough dot com such as GP seventy five dollars off your Ottoman Koby. All right we are talking northeast conference Kramer hit us. What the what are the ads? Were we're going to head over to the N. E. C? Of course this is Tipping Sean March fourth. Which you're probably listening to this the morning of so hopefully you can get down on some of these. Sweet sweet northeast. Action of course played campus. So it's all across north any see. I love the ACRONYMS. Felt like I was looking up an old video. Game System March fourth seventh and tenth will be the dates Robert Morris. Plus one eighty can't read my own writing plus one sixty along with. Saint Francis Sacred Heart Plus Three Hundred Bryant twelve the one long island twenty eight to one Mount Saint Mary's thirty to one. Fte fairleigh Dickinson fifty to one and Saint Francis New York. Sixty two one. Would you want me to say something? Oh supposed to talk. I'm all over sacred heart here. Call with your young women. Say Hey dan based what do you think this well? The database was slow yesterday. I didn't want to put the database on the spot. I figured eyeballs would give you the Q well Mary. Mack one this conference but since they just jumped up a division two D one. They're ineligible ineligible for the first year. That makes those explain this to me doing football too as we saw. Is this like to protect them. Understand if they're going down but clearly they can hang with the competition. They won the Conn. I don't get it either. They just did someone just didn't football was upstate. At first year was bull eligible. And they didn't let them so stupid stupid. It's saying basically like this. Is Your your penalty? We look I get it you know. I don't think they're thinking they're going to be that good. Because they lack of scholarships before. And what is the logic of the rule of its especially with basketball? I understand it more in football. I mean I don't understand it. In general I kind of understand that you got who you got. I'M GONNA go sacred heart. I think the good value here. I don't trust a Robert Morris. 'cause I just lost money on them in the past week but yeah sacred heart. They've been treat me well all year. I'm going because ain't there plus three hundred Sanford cysts. They got a home record. Eleven to eight and one in conference and since they're what they're the two seeds so the they'll be getting a bunch of home games and they obviously really good at home. They have a best offense in the league. Complicated good players Keith. Braxton Isaiah Blackman. I don't like to go. I always like to look at like the second or third those guys on the old. Yeah so since Francis. Strong home record coming in eight one in conference plus one sixty. I like that but this could be my degen's only pick for the conference Fairleigh Dickinson at plus five thousand. You're getting reckless. Why am I getting re Robert? Morris lost twice to Fairleigh Dickinson. Am I wrong? No you're not. I just think that's rob. Remorse is the favorite. If if a team at fifty to one has beat the favourite twice that is a team he looked good matchup. It's a good matchup. Yeah are they GONNA get. Are they GONNA win? No but it's fifty to one the sweat. You don't want to actually win the go at my sacred heart pioneers plus three hundred good value. This one of the things you want to check out with basketball team on especially in the mid major level is they spread the ball around four guys averaging over double double digits. This is true. They're named after the nicknames. The pioneers that's true. I mean that's just bad. Ethnic name really not CD players were also named. That was not bad ass. Look let's get you were. You were going down the path of saying you like sacred heart. Meanwhile Sean you like Saint Francis yes I too like Saint Francis because much like Radford the horrors of Saint Francis Right listen. They are the only the only team that has a unit that is shaded on Ken. Palms website is the Saint Francis off season going into local the other way when dabbling in the shit conferences. And we're talking like this is one of the conferences twenty seven so not horrible. You know at at thirty two conference not the worst. Yeah we're looking at a fifteen seed here. I'm calling Saint Francis says is that fair. Do we talk anymore about the NEC? By the way for those of you listen to part one of the Shirley Dickinson dozen have a horrible job. That's all I'm saying if they have a horrible draw they beat. La You and Robert Morris moves on. They knock out wherever Morris there in the championship which they've already done twice this. You GotTa Watch effort we. Hey It's not an easy road to fifty to one city can play ball. I would just love a live. Look Sean doing curls. Studying NEC conference like just looking at the brackets. All right all right. Let's chain amino acids pumping through my veins. Do Hot Yoga to look out. She's as Christ. You being serious. I thought he was being sarcastic on the tax chain. No Johnson all get a good sweat. You know what's next after that? What's that soy? I Love Hot Yoga and I love noon bone in rib soup if you're all about maximize last time either. What are you guys later? Intentionally from working out I ran past thirty six hours sweat intentionally. Yeah does intense. Uh overtime moments. In youth soccer count was the last time you did twenty minutes. I don't even it's of Cardio I mean if you want to downplay any I go hiking pretty frequently so if you want to count you. WanNa you WanNa count doing a cool stop doing competitive things when I lost by any if you WANNA talk about doing a couple of thousand feet of Elevations and eight miles. Okay let's talk. Let's talk. You can fuck in when zombies come. You can rip those plates to the cows camping hiking camping out in like Catalina over. We all know about the dudes who spent a lot of time in the gym. Lift throwing plates. Because they can't play a real sport we've been there before. Shawn's well on his way to not being able to wipe his ass because he's got that barrel chest chicken leg look going. Let's move over to the Missouri Valley Conference which is going to be played in Saint Louis March fifth through March eighth teams. You've actually heard of in this one including sister jeans very own Loyola. Chicago is a plus three fifty the favourite of course northern Iowa who I won lots of money fading Mr Bill Self and the Kansas Jayhawks. There my our conference. Indiana state plus eight hundred Bradley also plus eight hundred Missouri State. Ten One VALPO twenty two one twenty five to one for southern Illinois Drake Fifty to one Illinois state seventy five to one and Evansville a hilarious seven hundred and fifty to one. And what's crazy is they won at Kentucky this year but what people don't know is they went winless in their conference and that's because their head coach Wafa Kartini McCarty and we think he might have had some sexual activity with some students are made up pass. He got fired midseason beat Kentucky and trying to bond with his players just trying to say. Hey Look I don't even know the full story but I got a feeling. It went something like this like. Hey I think you're pretty attractive cheerleader. Doing what are you doing after after after the game today all right? I'm at the database. Does Not do well after hours. That's one more drink. Nick Velvet needs to wake up. And we'll we'll circle back to this. We'll check in with you in a little. Bit Sean. Class things up and talk about sister Jeanne around her sister. Jean just turned one hundred in August. She alive yeah but she's alive and I didn't know she was alive. I've been on our instagram. I've been putting out clips of like great march madness moments and I had one scheduled in our social media thing and in the Hashtag it said are put in our assistant came zooming dead and then actually looked up over God. She's still alive she's alive and well. This is insane about this gene. Did you know this in fact? She maintains an office in the students on campus. And she gives advice to people and stuff and that's cool hundred year old lady. Hey what's up? What's the secret of life? This is the insane part. She lives in a freshman dorm. Really Imagine being a freshman at college insists third one hundred one year. Old Woman next to you or you just like late at night stumbling around knocking on doors. That was the move like. Hey what's up sister? Jean answer that's wild. You like an old school voices. All jokes aside. I like Loyola Atlas Three fifty. There's some value to me. It's all about cameron crushed wig six nine junior big man like that you can just keep you know keep Keep giving him the ball in the pink and the boards moving things around plus fifty the value. We liked the coach right porter. Moser coach called me. Tell me why I shouldn't take loyal Chicago because northern. I was better than everyone in the country. They're really good. Aj Greens one of the best players in the country or Jacobson matchup. Ben Jacobs is that same head coach that that did when you money. Yeah no I know longtime. They're they're very much. They're going to run some crisp offense. Yeah they rebound well that shoot the three well if you're GONNA go for you know a DJ only play. I'M GONNA say Bradley again. Bradley plus eight hundred Bradley Looking. I still think northern I was coming out of here. But if there's any chance Brad can still lock down play defense. It's just a struggle on offense all right so you guys are both in Northern Ireland. No I'm on I'm on me I. I think I'm going to do Ken. Both of these does northern Iowa. Get A at large bid if they don't win them. There's a strong chance of that. There's a strong chance that they won at Colorado this year. They WANNA be there. They've just been money. I'll tell you the truth. Yeah my concern would be if the if Lula Chicago can't stop there. Three point game. It's GonNa be a long long game and and when I look into the numbers you know. What their absolute weaknesses as a team? Even though they are a very good defense who we talking about. Wichita yeah I'm I'm teetering on my pick right now Hundred and twenty first in the country defending the three point line. That's trouble Jimmy. Northern Iowa the Dan the survey all right just mean sister Jane hanging out in the freshman dorm room getting into semantics like retail. She's definitely taking the accident rocks. You WanNa you WanNa see the Holy Spirit sister take some of this gene Chicago. 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One of the few relics of the past definitely check it out. Also a great place to get fucked up if you're a college kid Low limits on the table. Here we go. Watch out for the distractions all over the place especially from those. Byu Boys this is GonNa be played from March march through the seventh. And then again the ninth and the Tenth. Why they have that break in between well. Only if did absolutely lit in LAS VEGAS GONZAGA MINUS four thirty five. Byu Plus five hundred saint. Mary's plus seven hundred Pacific fifty to one. Santa Clara Sixty two one San Francisco. Ninety two one Kenner who Pacific coaches pepperdine one hundred. One Noah marymount two hundred one along with Portland and San Diego Damon Stoudamire coaching year. Steinmeyer interesting the interesting format here or the interesting thing. It's it's a weird format where the top two teams gamble is Gonzaga and Byu they. They're basically just need a win. Two Games to win at all. Yeah which is it's a really I don't know why are they. Came up with that but yeah like some of the eight or nine seeds. You have such crazy. It's really hard upset just because you have to get so incredibly hot wanting them to have Gonzaga tournament every year which I mean maybe this Gonzaga's year I mean mark view has as a great history of a good program. They keep getting in they. Just don't get in. Has He ever been no final four championship and lost too closely? Yeah could I make a suggestion? They've they've underperformed. Historically in another way to align ten teams into a tournament format would be to have the one and two seeds. Get a single by the eight nine play For the winner to play the one seed in seven ten versus. What are you know again? There's a way to do this and not have the stress. This is not a tournament unlike what Dr Pepper figured out what the Fourteen College Football playoff. What the West Coast Conference has done is insulting to any committee out. What is this yeah? It's very easy to teams won by instead of instead of this crazy for by Jewish. Now having said that why would anyone take zog amounts for thirty-five? What what would they be? So this is gonNA play two games. What would be favored over? I Guess Pacific is the highest seed. I can tell you this. San Francisco gave them trouble this year. Both even in spokane they had they were losing to San Francisco Halftime. Come back but isn't Gonzaga. Like one of the best teams in the country. They are but it does seem like saint. Mary's would be the other team if you're Gonzaga to me the GAELS it's Byu. They have to win two games and their plus five hundred and Byu team has really had a good season exceeded year one great great season for Byu. What are doing baller out there in Utah. What are they not that caffeine? No floride living at healthy life. They're the only west coast conference teen to Beacon Zag and they're plus five hundred to win two games one of which is probably against saga. Byu has dominated against the spread. Nine thousand nine hundred eighty S. So I really. I mean just the way the tournaments formatted the value is so strong. Byu Am I missing? Something here Colby No. I think it's a good play. I think it's a very good player I would. I like Saint. Mary's to seven hundred obviously think. I don't think he's taken SAAG. Saint Mary's if they can win the pace battle with a team like guns. Aga- it's it's or any really. They're they're just a tremendously slow team Pacific as well. It would be the other team. I'd circle there but if they can get their way pace-wise against one even yeah Pacific in Saint Mary's they they basically have to buys instead of that extra by but Saint. Mary's damp to play. They have to win three games. Ebola seven hundred to me I'd take. Byu To win two games. So if San Francisco Wins. I'm a little confused on the layout here. If San Francisco beat San Francisco play Gonzaga. Yes So San Francisco would have to win against the winner of Elham Your San Diego and then San Francisco would have to be Pacific then Gonzaga then the winner of whoever's in the Byu that would be the hard part. Because I could see them beaten Gonzaga. I really could get there. It's just it's just a crazy. It's just a crazy layout play. I think you're right. The play is Byu the play is Byu crazy. Take the San Francisco Dons Bill Russell. Baby course the dawn's of San Francisco. What are you GonNa? Are you gonNa make that possibly degen pick a caveat to one? I will be jumping renewing. The Don's do you have. Do we have any history of like what was the greatest conference tournament upset long shot. I know last year state. I hit on you. I hit on Bradley. They were pretty far back last year. Twenty one I recall that but now we're here in the in. The current in the present in the top of the database exists in all points in places along the time continuum. But we're GONNA talk about March six the southern conference or as they call it on the Internet. The so come on. This conference is good. I wish you so coach Sean. I think I called it so call on twitter. I'm trying to get that going. Okay I think you called it in College L. Pr Soco Southern Comfort painting. Removers SOCO in Lima so-called online. At least in Virginia back it was called The liquid Pani remover talking about this before the podcast of early twenties that was mid twenties whenever we started hanging out and drinking a lot That would I mean. I was drinking a lot since I was thirteen. But it's a separate conversation over here. I just used to get drunk by the hang out the railroad tracks river. It was river. I buried a cooler in the woods and I would just store Bush lights there and drink by myself eases. She's by yourself too. Yeah and I would also drink with friends on the weekend but during the week other activities so I would just take my dog for a long walk and drink near the road. You got the dog dogs with third string tight. End Wasn't taking your time. During the season there is an off season right or if I had a tough day. Working at Michael's harbour store it was actually a fastener supplyhouse but I call it a hardware store. 'cause I said fastener supply house. No one knows what that is. I can talk fasteners all day where I was getting at was we used to in the early Vegas days when they're still going out a bunch of drink tickets. So Cohen Lime. That was like. Hey let's turn it up before. Pre Vodka red bull that you discovered Bryan probably late twenties for you. So Cohen line was kind of drink and interest slack. Because we've been hyping up the Vegas trip people have been chiming in and we were thrown out some all time. Hey throw this song onto get jacked up and get ready to drink. There's a song from this dude called little white and it is just little white little right no way. The whole song is just make us Marcus. Cranberry BOX DRINKING BAKERS. And then the hook is just. I'm kidding man. I'm getting fucked up. Do you ever just blast that pre gaming in Vegas Hotel Room and then just go out and lose a bunch of money. Blackjack and push people rent. It was a great time. What's the difference right learning about that? That SONG IN ATLANTA. I believe this is where the origin came from in Atlanta. I was there for the bridge. The First Virginia Tech Alabama game and One of one of my buddies busted into the hotel room at like four in the morning and just crank that shit up all the way and I it it just stuck. I mean it's a hilarious song anyway. Shoutouts our instagram. Where'd you put that I put in slack? How can people join slack? What's that cost Sean? Slack at Sports Gaming PODCASTS DOT COM. It's Free. It's we sail the stuff that we can't say on social media which is a lot of stuff so talented judgment free zone in the space. I could slide into Kobe. Dan's DMZ just join the sports gambling. Podcast lack some say some say. That's a liquid off back to the southern conference which of course is played in Asheville North Carolina Remarked sixth through the ninth speaking of that Liquid Penny remover L. PR's that was the name of a REC league got basketball team for a little while in college. We these uniforms that were t shirts that my ex girlfriend drew a girl's legs with the. Anyway East Tennessee Sherry and it was it was. It was a female artist so it was. Okay sure our art show. He's East Tennessee. State is the one seed plus one twenty five Furman plus three twenty five. Unc Greensboro Plus Four twenty-five Western Carolina. Thirteen to one Chattanooga eighteen to one WOFFORD special place in my heart for Wofford. There's good value and wealth admits and Mercer. Twenty four to one VM. I seventy two one with Sanford and the citadel. Yeah right there's a great value in Welford. Wofford just played firm and let them off the hook that had their all game. And I mean that's the degen pick there is take one thousand four hundred but I am going to take as my look east. Tennessee state might have that outrage as I was. GonNa say they're right on the bubble again at Lsu. Ken Palm has them right at the in the in the sixty seven spy which probably at. What's what's the bracket Tala Gist. What's Jolan already by the way we need to send the Dan base to the Joe Girardi Bracket Tallahassee Class? It says class. He teaches an online class. Joe's I believe it's still the case called Bracket College. Yeah we'll competition look out. GonNa keep you on your toes I'm GonNa go with. Unc Greensboro as the play here. But I do like Wofford sprinkle. Aluminum offered you know who beat? Unc Greensboro Komi. Eighty one to sixty seven my boys at a firman. They tied the school record. Twenty five wins. You were always a big mark. Furman guy weren't yeah exactly you got a bad rep. Come on what you said a couple of things. You're not supposed to say he's not up to date with your PC culture. Kobe Jesus cronies. Sj WS social justice. Bro Blue Lives matter. Call me I was just doing his job all jokes. Aside Furman twenty-five wins they haven't been in the tournament in the past forty years that to me feels like a team. That's do Jordan lines. He's been killing it They've won ten of their last eleven. Love team coming in hot. They split with eastern Tennessee. So I think they're right in the mix and it plus three twenty five feels like some good value. That game was two months ago. This east Tennessee state team is really good. They they pop off the pay. Chuck Chuck when I in terms of team that I'm looking at for value in the real tournament. Yeah they shoot. They're just officiant. They crashed the offensive glass efficient. They don't turn the ball over. They turn you over. I mean just go down the list of things the only concern. Would it be? Maybe their ability to knock down free throws they don't rely on the three-point Games team. I've watched them all year and I think they've lost a couple of games off of their free throw shooting. Well that's that's that's the weakness and maybe that's a reason to not lay points with this team as far as grabbing the future. I'm totally okay with it like I said they there. There just isn't that a they have experienced. This is a this is a veteran team. They are going to get it done. I think they're not going to run into the size. That will give them trouble in their conference. This conference is way way way up. It's good yes really good conference man. I think I saw they were in the top twenty five for. Let's see right here. No sorry fifteenth. They're above right above the Ivy League. Yeah tampons with if I if you took via my in the Citadel Sanford out every other team is capable you watch them and they're good teams. Yeah this is. This is maybe the first conference we've talked about. That has a lot of green shading in the valleys. Like a little one of these of these teams. Do you think. E T s you as I like to call the okay. Can they go in and win a game in the actual tournament? Yes they did it a few years ago. What's their seating? It'd be what are we looking at here? Potential twelve thing potentially I was GONNA say to me. They strike me as maybe an eleven. Yeah probably more of a twelve and again the way that they play the way that you have the veteran presence. They don't turn into dude. They are one of the most efficient two point scoring teams in the country. And we know that is a stat that will translate to tournament success because as the lower seed. Typically you're relying on variants. This team does not need to do that so I think they can roll with. I think their weaknesses height length. Like they're going to at some point they'll run into just one of these you know Baylor type teams. Or whatever these stupid long teams and gives them trouble Syracuse but for now. Let's go give you the money so you're also doing you know. I'm calling for UNC Greensboro. There's no value in Ethiopia so so I'm going Greensborough and then my degen pick Wofford Watson you back me on Wofford. No I mean I think what about mercer not bad I think Wofford and if you if you WanNa have some fun take your unit chop it. In half and put half on mercer offered I would say this to mercer does have an easier path to the championship here because they only have to play Western Carolina and then the winner of E. T. issue and assume an ETF moves on. They have to beat them and Western Carolina. And then there are championship. Wofford as to beat the citadel then beat firm and then beat the winner of Chattanooga little well but then it just adds another extra game Su genes like running running the point. You know they don't I will say I kind of agree with you Sean. But really I think Wofford might have a more manageable path one at North Carolina. The I'm but anyway either way. You Take Murph murderer mercer and Wofford you have some opportunities to do the very fun hedge out leverage prop swab if these are real tickets if not talk to your boy Sean Stack in the money grain. Because he's a buyer of people's hedges why we got. We got some live chat going on. Sam's shout the Bronx Sands Alaska in the house. The awesome the W. C. C. Will have three teams in the sweet sixteen. I'm in past tank. I Love Your Spirit. Kid Koby how how would you? How would you actually? Komo's about to be like. I know we already already hit on the West Coast Conference. But what would you price that out as your own bet plus you? Byu Gonzaga and Saint. Mary's no those are three good teams. But I I mean saint. Mary's has historically had trouble. At least You conferences good man that what makes would that total number of? Wc teams in the sweet sixteen. Would you set that at one with crazy juice on the lake or one and a half with crazy juice on the under? Yeah one and a half. I think one and a half the number because Byu feel. I mean they're good. They're good Byu. I think I'm GONNA have making a little run. We'll see how they show up in Las Vegas on that matters but I agree. I like the cougars in. This conference is to this guy's credit Pacific said Damon Stoudamire and and and Santa Clara. These teams were traditionally bad. They're up this year conferences deeper last year. I had a good year too but not five years ago this conference of Shit now. And you're like damn man. They really got a deep conference very deep very deep. Not Bad you watch pepper and they have talent to one. So are we gonNA? We're GONNA do one more. Are we done with that one more? Yeah over this is the seven or we before we do right. Jesus Christ Oh okay very festive. Do you hear this. You know this is from the Girls Gone Wild Joe Francis. He started his own business. He did it the wrong way. Did some shady things though. That's I mean that's a whole other. We could do attack. You Mentor. Joe Francis House there not been a Joe Francis Documentary. I'm getting sidetracked really. You should start your own business. Start Your own business. The right way with ace per head dot com. That's right dot com the leader in pay per head providers. You want to start your own sportsbook. So one day can be hanging out in a Caribbean island. Listen the steel drums. Drink at daggers. That sounds like a great life. What are you gonNA do set up your own light sportsbook and you can do it? Overhead DOT COM SLASH SGP. That wasn't easy enough because they're friends with us and you're using our link as for dot com slash. 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Koppelman was the guy who wrote it. He also really. Oh No shit. He's the creator of billions of. It's no he's he's actually like Hashtag Degen only himself and of course he wrote the great film. Rounders rounders was the first film ever wrote any was just a Doodoo. Hung out and poker rooms in New York was pursuing his dream of a writer and would just wake up early and and right every day and had this great story and became his first movie that got ever produced so runner runner not as good as rounders to rounders runner. Runner is fun. If you like you run into me is in the two for the money category. Where that's a horrible. That's a fucking horrible movement. If you like gambling you can enjoy a two for. The money is a bit more of a serious parody. Runner runner has real moments. Where if you're a real gamble your by ooh. I prefer eighties. Let it ride with Richard Dreyfuss. That's rats are good ones who we like to say that on the show all right last conference for the night. Of course Sean. When will the Conference Tournament College Basketball March Madness Preview series continue Thursday night or tonight? We'll tape and Thursday night will do Was that week five. Now we five and the xfl breaking down Kobe's defenders who are now bottom. I need more James bottomed out. They got they got bit in the snake. Pit Down and Raymond. James wildcats are one and three eighths Sir by three and five. Kobe's one quarter of the League so we during xfl picks all that. Doing more of the conference sermons and then just conference tournaments. Keep coming and coming and It's just GONNA be coming when I go to the gym. It's like I'm coming when I was doing the impression of Arnold checking in the chat over on Youtube dot com slash sports gambling podcast on Johnny Mack pointing out that take your unit chopping in half soundbite. Potential perhaps a bubble team next year for the bites the two thousand twenty one bytes bracket summit conference hosted and beautiful. Soy Falls Falls. South Dakota falls thirty and slipped and falls. South Dakota tried to get a piece of soy ready. Get run out of town on that. The good news is they probably have some nice lean meats like elk bison up there so I would be willing to go back over to the dark side. This will be played over the dates of March seventh through March hand. Where we see South Dakota state plus one fifty the budged. North Dakota State Plus Three Twenty five of the Jack. Rabbits screwed me so bad. Was it like the past two years past oral robers plus four hundred South Dakota plus four fifty Nebraska Omaha plus seventeen hundred North Dakota plus twenty four hundred perdue four Wayne plus thirty five hundred Denver plus sixty five hundred. Come on man. Shawn's GonNa take North Dakota Stash check bison strong and now not only am I picking North Dakota state because home of the Great Carson Wentz Hash Ginger. Jesus I really liked what North Dakota state. I liked the brand of basketball. They they put together. I mean the summit conference. It's just basically every year. Is it North Dakota state or is it South Dakota State South Dakota's not beddoe? And that's that's why they're the favorite plus one female. Not South Dakota State South Dakota Oh South Dakota okay. Yeah at plus four fifty. I like North Dakota State. Does as far as play good defense? They're experienced team. Low turnover percentage. They've had a good record historically against. Sds You so those reasons and mostly because Carson Wentz went there that's why I'm really on Ndsu a decent price plus three twenty five. I'm backing him. There in back Vinnie Vinnie. Shaheed is a baller. He's a he's one of these classic. It's my guy and he's vinnie shaky. We could be in a sportsbook at the West Gate. Yell and Village. Aid as they cover or maybe eke out a early turney. It's more shot. Shot is up and down when this guy is the number one seed at plus twenty five. How much more do you need? Look they've lost. The South Dakota state year after year after year this year. I feel like the tide is gonNA turn. There's no Mike Mike. Tom Has gone. He graduated maybe he was the problem. You mean he was wearing. I know so now the theory that you guys. This isn't a very vision Chuck Jackrabbits. It's Kinda my style but yeah why not. They screwed me last year. Do you ever eat rabbit? I have seen rabbit eaten. Jackrabbit did watch Jack Wraps Jack Bob Cat and Jack Rabbit is it really different. Animal than the ravenous much really. I mean it's a larger rabbit. Okay well then that's basically the same thing. It's a star Cobi. No throwing up to twenty-five strong buddy. Yeah I'd say all right. So rabbits are kind of pussies jackrabbits get your closer Kangaroos. Hi I'm complimenting. His paint play throwing toss a combine digital combine. He made that forty five hundred digital plates. That's I know. Concern footage of kicking a soccer ball or something. You know clearly camera tricks. I I had the little one whole. Why would you not be kicking in the? Xfl Why would you not walk yourself down wildcats and go give me? I mean we even got an. I got the publicists over at the exit. We We have we have a commitment we've made to the DEGEN's only to make all this sweet sweet content okay And going off and being a pussy kicker and the xfl with any of my goals to be the greatest thing for the podcast not only to see you a succeed on the field. I know you're mostly a hiker and you don't participate in competitive sports but it would be awesome to have an inside source locker room for Information Data. And then. Hey every once in a while we morning you're gonNA miss one kick one key kick. That's all I need. One of the one of the people at the table played a real collegiate sport. Ooh Yeah Baby Rugby. We don't wear pads plus he's just because some leagues started the coming weeks ago. How does it mean you athleticism used early? What do we do we? Don't we done? We've done we Locked in Korean and I went and E. S. U. S. D. And so you feel like I did a lot of chalk this week. Yeah or tonight. Here chock master all right so now we're GONNA do a lock a dog which is a moderate dog but nothing crazy and then a degen's only that just goes completely off the Rail Ryan. I'll let you start. What is your. What is your lock? As far as part two of the Conference Tournament College Basketball. I think I think I'M GONNA Walk Up Eastern Tennessee. Okay and what is that for the people at home for my dog? I we all kind of went there. But let's do. I'll tell you have the same dog. Relax and for my de Gines only play. I think like I said earlier. I think you're going to split your unit and then you're in a sprinkle a little bit. Anwar for half unit on Wofford Half Unit on Mercer Hedge Out of the East Tennessee state position. So you're giving me two teams for Wofford Mercer Wofford and Mercer Half Unit each at twenty four to one all right you can buy my hedge later Sean. Well maybe I'll head over to stop and pick that up for me. Okay call me what are you doing? What's your what's your best play. My lock is northern. I will minus one ten at smart my dog. I'm going to take it over to. Unc Greensboro plus four twenty five. I liked that squad and my my degen's only only I'm GONNA go. Let's go with I gave Bradley last year. I'm going to switch it up. Let's go Kobe very prepared for this moment. Let's go Go wofford yeah. It's a smart move. Yeah they got the new coach thing. Proving people wrong thing beat North Carolina. They suck this year. I don't know if that's something. You're you're looking to brag. I think there's plenty of value in North Carolina winning the ACC tournament. Oh He's not there yet. We're not sure next week I've got a couple Emails and Pages wondering if we're going to be doing any sort of contests for March madness. We do have some things scheduled right. People are wondering if those things are gonNA cost money or is it going to be generally. We're we're as they see. They see the industry and the trending the industry with pay walls and with these massive acquisitions have no fear de Gines. We're not going anywhere very up not yet at least not until someone brings the big the big bag money bags to bring trick up all right for my lock. GimMe Saint Francis. What's that plus one sixty? It feels like a locked to me for my dog like Byu but Ryan stole that sister. Gene is on the screen. She's awesome to party with in the dorm look healthy this is a year ago. She's a hundred years old. The fact that you're alive means you're healthy China. Herpes SORTA. Yes you think. College students head over to get Roman dot com seeping treated in person interview since urging just skype in a freshman dorm airborne herpes. She does the The the rubber rubber shoes in the shower. I guess you know. Get some young young freshman to hold her up. Cut Cut no. We're not coming out. Let's get Outta here. Pick something Sean fairleigh Dickinson fifty to one is my Hashtag de Gines. Only play right Dickenson plus fifty plus fifty to one. That's going to be insane. All right thank you for participating in the sports gambling podcast. Good Times make sure. Your rates subscribe and review over on I tunes in the Philly Area March fourteenth nine pm Philly Comedy Club Sean. Green use the Promo Code Sean. And of course we will be broadcasting. Live from the beautiful sportsbook in Caesar's in Las Vegas March. Eighteenth time yet to be determined but stay tuned at gambling. Podcasts and four sports gambling podcasts. I'm Sean Stack of the Money Green. 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Duke, Lakers, Zion Williamson, and one and done players
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You're listening to Fox Sports radio. Welcome in blur ever. You may be in. How ever you may be making his part of your day. Thanks so much. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is the heard with you're watching on Fox Sports one listing on Fox Sports radio the iheartradio app or the over. We at ten million ten million subscribers to the heard podcast Sherwood the number. Nobody's checking those numbers. Somewhere the morning to you joy Taylor. How are you? I'm great good morning about big interview over the weekend don't want to give it away. But if you read the Twitter sphere, you know, college basketball, somebody very very very close to joy in a very very, very big interview. Which apparently went very well. I it's a beautiful morning in Los Angeles. The sun is shining. Welcome Dodds, born joy. So look college basketball has something special that everybody else sort of wants, right, right? Like, look there's other things that college basketball is that people don't want. But the congress was a couple of things that you want. I I heard this from a buddy of mine, I'll give him credit named sarin petro is a very talented radio host and Kansas City. And he said, and this is a great if the bowl system was such a good idea. How come no one's ever copied it, right? It's a it's a great point. Whereas in college basketball, like what do we have in the regular season yet these incredible student sections, and if you look around the country, whether it's college football, they've stolen that from tried to steal that from college basketball. You get that when you watch foreign teams play you get that in high school sports now teams have their own student section with their own nickname that all started because of college basketball. But then the biggest thing that everybody wants in college basketball is. We caught March Ben is we can say it's the bracket we can call the NCAA tournament, which is the technical definition of it is the two thousand nine nineteen NCA national championship tournament which will be decided in Minnesota Minneapolis a week from tonight. The bracket is what everybody wants, right? The brackets and people today are bragging like my son who's ten years old as Michigan state winning a national championship in his bracket. We'll get to bracket guy up coming in the show. But we have this this. Hey, look man's forty minutes. It's one game. And we do make definitive statements. And I've hated the idea of a definitive statement in a single elimination tournament. I like your team loses a game. And all of a sudden you're conference as a whole stinks. I don't understand that. Or John Calipari is Kentucky. Wildcats lose to Auburn who is ranked in the top fifteen to start the season one the SEC tournament and they've played Kentucky twice blown out. Once play them close at home. Played them twice. Hardest thing to do in basketball's beat a team three times. Especially in college basketball L, Dr do it three three consecutive times in the NBA. So you lose in overtime. To a conference foe. And what's the immediate reaction? John Kelly Perry can't coach. My she's chefs gay these one and done they just you can't win with the one in Duns. There are first world problems with the one in Duns and a lot of times. It's not just those players. It's all of the other guys that you recruit that think they're at the same level mean Duke has had this problem for the last ten years or so let me Crimea river. But if you if if you're not one of the top two or three if you're not one of the starters for Duke, and you see yourself as part of that recruiting class, then you're gonna leave you're going to transfer because you don't to come off the bench because they're just going to recruit more guys over the next year. Which is what happens in Kentucky. They also run the risk of if they actually play too well and win a national championship. Like they did with with. Going back with Justice Winslow. Whether it was just window or Tyler Ty Jones had ties Joan state at Duke for two years three years or all four years. He could've won multiple national titles. If you have an elite level point guard, it raises the level of everybody else. Don't believe me. I give you Michigan state and caches Winston or I give you Texas Tech and Matt Mooney two-time transfer older kids veteran kids, you're good at that spot. You're good. But but today the one in done is in the crosshairs of everybody in the media. And it is a damned if you do damned for your don't proposition, right. Like if you don't win a recruiting if you don't win recruiting Moore's over the top prospects. Let's not champion yourself. Let's not act like ROY Williams didn't want. Zaib Williamson like he wanted him. And I don't know how much he would have played or if he would've started because he had to veterans in his front court. Roy Williams has an all solar system. All American who's a freshman who didn't start and he may lose him as well. So the the issue is not just emotional, but emotional attachment emotional connection is a big part of what allows teams to compete and to win you want to call it chemistry fine in basketball. We call being connected. I connected to another looking at each other and just knowing where the other person's gonna be. But also just the idea of an emotional investment in a place. I want you to think about this for a second. Here's the difference between. The Duke players and the Michigan state players or maybe the Kentucky players and the Auburn players. I was asked driving, and I was on Dan Patrick show. And he said, what do you think Zai Williamson's doing today as I hope he's going back? He's going to class, you know, maybe going to get some shots up having enjoying a day off. He had himself a great weekend. They just came up a bucket short. One bucket short. That's one bucket from playing for a national championship in front of seventy thousand people. At US Bank stadium. But the thought is that he should be packing up his stuff going to train for the NBA removing himself from college. So if you think to yourself what's the biggest difference? Well, the biggest differences as Kenny goings hits the shot of the year for Michigan state going to say former walk on. Would have played at amid major level as a starter. Instead bet on himself and his his dad pickup picked up the tab and said don't worry about it. Now, he's on scholarship, but Kenny a former walk on hits the shot of the tournament over Zion. Williamson who's the player of the tournament and going to be the number one pick in the upcoming NBA draft. So what happens one Kenny go into lost? Last night would have gotten home and felt terrible. As I Williams and fills terrible would have gone to class and would have been a hero would have been champion. And the question wouldn't have been what are you going to do today? It's when are you going to get back in the gym because the emotional investment of all those guys is I'm here, I've unpacked mentally emotionally. And of course, physically I'd never thought about packing up. Whereas the the issue with the one and done is we're teaching players to not fully invest not dig roots. Just be a renter. Just come and stay and see what it's like in the second. You can get out you get out. And look I could go into the look at the NBA when the NBA teams want to lose. What do they do? They just play younger players because they're not that well developed they don't shoot the basketball as well. Don't believe me that shooting is a major factor. Look at Kentucky's inability to make three pointers yesterday with their freshman. Same thing happened when you know you go back to. Gi cousins was in college, and they had Bledsoe and John wall and they played a West Virginia team that had one board line NBA player. They finished four for thirty two from three point range, you improve incrementally as issued her your fundamentals improve college, basketball basketball, and generally helps you improve your shooting over time just volume of coaching volume of attempts. You also become a better teammate a better team player. You understand rotations you understand scattered reports. And all of that. But to me the biggest part outside of the physical strength of older players because physical strength did not keep Zayn Williamson or RJ Barrett from playing for national championship. Those guys bodies are ready for whatever level basketball. It's in the emotional investment. Little things matter more to them because this is as good as it's going to get for Xavier Tillman, Kenny goings and heck baby for caches Winston. He doesn't look like an NBA point guard. He may play in the NBA. But is he, but he's really a longtime NBA probably not. And so while Michigan state lost at one and done. Jaren Jackson last year and lost a two and done. When you've got people that are completely invested in the project. The projects usually better you ever. Project. Right. Right. There's always one person that might be super talented that sometimes misses a meeting. I don't worry. I'll get it done. I'll get it done. What you need to do. I'll get it done. But they're not fully invested. Which project is better these slightly lesser talented group that always meets every Tuesday at seven o'clock at the coffee shop to plan out for the two months leading up to the presentation or the more talented group. That's got a bunch of things working and is worried about job applications, and it's their senior year and there, but they only have time for me. I can only meet once a month. And I can't be there from seven to eight I can get you at seven thirty. I got a bunch of other things going which projects better. And all we have is the data to tell us that. Yes, it's a signal limitation tournament. Sure. Kentucky loss overtime had a chance to win. Regulation in overtime. And yes, Duke is a made free throw away from playing in overtime in maybe playing for national championship. But Kentucky loss to an Auburn team that lost arguably, it's most talented player. Duke should've lost a central Florida could have lost Virginia Tech. And then did lose to Michigan state who is without their second. Most talented player for the entire see for most of the season. Like, it's not like you're lining up and losing to the Milwaukee Bucks. Or to a star studded roster you're losing to what anybody would consider inferior competition. Terms of their overall talent. Is it coaching? Sure. Give it apart. Is it shooting? Absolutely. You become a better shooter overtime college basketball. Actually, wait for it helps you become a better basketball player. But it is in the connection cohesion overall investment in the long term and short term success of everybody around you. I think the answer is. Yes. I don't think. I know the answer is. Yes. Those are teams that are advancing to the final four. Whereas great players, it doesn't mean they're terrible. Teammates islands is not bad teammate. RJ Barrett's a little bit selfish, but he's not bad teammate or a bad guy. Ties Jones a good teammate. But the connection in. Hey, this is the best. This is the most important thing. I'm going to accomplish in my basketball career, and whatever else happens as opposed to whether it's Duke or Kentucky or the Zona team of last year. If this is just a stop on the way to start him. What would your level of investment be? How connected would you be with those around you? And that in and of itself is why the one and done hasn't traditionally worked you got fifteen years of data. You got to national championships in spite of a litany of first round draft picks and superstars. What will dig in a little later on the show in terms of how do you fix it? How much do you think joy the one and done plays a factor in Duke and Kentucky, but being home today? I mean, I think there's some thing to I don't think it's a matter of dedication, though. I think it's more a experience and being around your teammates for an extended amount of time. I mean, that's the same for the most part in the NBA to it takes a long adjustment period. I think the reason you can have a player come to a team for one year and the NBA and work because they've likely been in the NBA for a while and that season as much longer. So there's more time to adjust to playing with your teammates and learning the system, and all that dedication to me. I don't think should be a question when it comes to Zion Zion could have easily sat out the rest of the season in just for protecting himself for the NBA. If that's really what he wanted to do. And while some people may have been critical of it. I think most people would have understood because we all saw how terrifying it was to see his shoe explode and impossibly put his future endanger for playing for free for Duke. So I don't think that the dedication thing is much as a factor as it is just experience and having a time to play together. And learn the system it, you know, it's a team game. These things happen. Like, you said it's a ball bounces one way. And we're we're we're talking about this two weeks ago. So I don't I don't think that it's necessarily dedication in so much as it is just the formula of getting players to work together and being in big moments together over years at a time and knowing what to do in this situation. I didn't use the word dedication specifically. I don't believe if I did chrome wrong. But I do look take Texas Tech Texas Tech has to Tariq Owens's their center, and of course, about Moonies their point guard. They've only been on campus. They didn't get there until August this year because they're grad transfers, right? So they're older players. They're mature they've been through the ups and downs in the rigors. And that's the experience factor that that you're talking about. But I do think there's a certain level of disconnect with everything else that college players are able to accomplish that is harder. And look we're just as guilty. Of it. As members of the media. I look up the things that guys do that. I despise. Why do you have to as I Williamson if he's going pro right after a game? What what was accomplished by that? You're the guy who broke the story that Zaia Williamson who by the way answered it like every other question perfectly right perfectly. But we we constantly plu. What do you like, obviously, it's being discussed. It's an elephant in the room. But can we not allow players to just even if they're miserable after losing aim allowed to be miserable? And not worry about the next thing. The next thing is the next thing we're guilty of it. Parents are guilty of it hangers on friends, and then that makes the players more guilty of it. And I think it becomes harder. In addition to the skill that gets gets refined and the experience that can only be gained over time. And then of course, cohesion with teammates, which I think one in Duns are are pretty clearly spotted at the grassroots level. Like, there's a certain not everyone is a one and done player. And I think that the more that guys start to develop at a younger age they tend to to focus on being a one and done when maybe they could use another year in college or not. But it's tough to tell a kid. Hey, you have the possibility of being drafted or going to the NBA and taking your skills to a professional level, which is a dream. You know what I mean or just saying college to develop yet? Yes. And no like look the reality of it is is they all think they're one and done even though the numbers are very very slight. But like you walk in. I was I coached in a you game in ladera in Orange County. And if I walked in the gym, and I asked all those kids like how many you guys are going to league they all would have had their hands up. Like, they don't understand the math of it. So. So yes, do NBA people. Do do do basketball people know for the most part who the five or six guys. Are course, everybody's end Zion has improved his stock by playing and showing us that he's better than anyone could have thought had. They watched him last year this exact same time. But the idea that hey, there's there's a couple of guys, and they know, and they have their now, the I'm telling you joy, I've been these locker rooms I spoke to the teams if you ask them thirteen kids on scholarship how many guys going to league they'll have their hands up, and they'll all believe it. But you have to believe that you are at a superior level to compete at a superior level eventually thinks sort themselves out. But that doesn't mean they're all going to declare for the draft. A lot of them will love them will the Lakers. We'll get back to this upcoming liquor struggles this year fall on not one. But by invitation to people not sure if you've heard, but LeBron James has shut it down for the year. We will we will lay blame that's upcoming next in the hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific on Fox Sports radio affects one and the iheartradio app. Thirty million Americans are living with diabetes and more than eight. 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Listen to the latest episode in the iheartradio app, or wherever you get your favorite show dot gov for Colin this is the heard on Fox Sports radio. Fox Sports one the. Iheartradio app. If you're watching us on Fox Sports one you can see the chest and arms of LeBron James behind me photos of the Ron James in a Lakers uniform is the most you'll see of LeBron James in a Lakers uniform the rest of the year. I'm sure people are just pleased as punch if they loaded up and said, hey, April game between the warriors and Lakers kind of Rev up for the play offs thing about back in January or even back in November man, how to take it was that. Yeah. Lebron's complain that he's not gonna play the rest of the year. Quote after consulting with our team doctors and medical staff we have decided to hold the brawn James out of games remain into the season. This decision will allow his groin to fully heal and is best for the future of both the Bron and the Lakers the. The. So the Lakers who by the way one last night in Orleans. It was a main anytime javale McGee is your go-to score. And you win an NBA game. You start kind of scratching your head. It has been a remarkable year for the Lakers remarkably bad, if I can think of a parallel in Hollywood, the only one I could come up with is Batman and Robin. Do you remember Batman and Robin? I'm not sure if you're big on the Batman series, but Batman and Robin had George Clooney had Arnold Schwarzenegger. Right. Alicia silverstone. How Alicia SilverStone was she was on fire at that point her career, right and Emma, Thurman, and Chris O'Donnell? So you pick who's who in this cast? But the fact is that Batman franchise was like the Laker franchise. You put Batman on it. And it wins. With the exception of that movie, which was a complete and total stinker. I mean, the cheesy Arnold lines were awful awful. And the stench was so bad. I don't think leashes SilverStone is ever really recovered. It took Chris O'Donnell like seven years before he was on a TV show that finally hit and he was on NCIS, right? Arnold Schwarzenegger is performance was so bad. He went into politics when there's plenty of really bad actors. And it took the Batman series like a decade before Christopher Dolan revamped it and made it into an incredible new trilogy. But if you wanna put the blame at two places, I think you actually have to start with magic because he is Magic Johnson. Right. Like his name of oaks feel like even see him cheering for Michigan state. And you're like well magic everything he touches works. When he's with the Lakers. It just works. Well, there was the coaching thing that didn't work. There was the late night talk show that in work, but when he got involved with the dodgers to World Series appearances in a row, and whether or not you want to say the dodgers didn't win those World Series. Like, let's just be honest getting to a World Series in two years ago getting to a game seven. I mean, they have they have been revitalized and revamped. But let's not give magic all sorts of credit because it's not like he's down in AAA trying to figure out who's who. And what's what? And how to make the right decisions as to whether or not you sign a platoon, but a platoon guy in there or sign Bryce Harper this past offseason. The Magic Johnson came back to Lakers and said give me a couple of years, and I will fix it. And this was his plan, and I'm big on the butterfly effect. He is in the butterfly effect. Like if this doesn't happen. Bunch of other things don't happen. Just think about the meeting that he had with the Braun on July first of last year. In addition to the fact that whatever his plans were and however they were agreed to by by LeBron James he never brought his head coach. Who does that who thinks that's a good plan? Who thinks that's a good idea you sit outside and by his own account. He got there an hour early in that our leading up to you didn't think, hey, maybe I should text Lou conceive. He can get in a car and drive up from beach and pop it on this meeting with us just to say, hi 'cause he's our coach. So you immediately tell the brunt James who's a very smart fella. Right. When you walk into make a pitch. And you don't have the head coach. What do you think LeBron James things? Well, he's not your coach. So he must not be mine immediately. Magic Johnson is is to blame for the litany of errors at the Lakers have made. And then in terms of personnel. Sure, I will give rob Pelinka some of the blame. Absolutely. He's a first time GM. But magic supposed to have the basketball. Now, badger badger supposed to have the basketball IQ. He was the one who had summer league said this was their plan to get these junkyard dogs. These veterans who guard he watched all the playoff games and he made assessment and shame on us for listening to magic because as great a player's. Magic Johnson was and by my estimation. And I grew up in southern California. I watched all his games, I can tell you Magic Johnson is the greatest Laker ever. Like we can say Kobe Bryant now. But that's because many of us have forgotten. How incredible magic was. It wasn't just that. He was great. He was great. He had competitive greatness. He was great. When greatness was called upon in Boston Garden, you know in Philadelphia in Houston in we're at wherever it was. I was there when magic came back off of hiatus from HIV when preseason with the Lakers, and he took over the entire for he's the greatest Laker ever. But he's been a commentator on the NBA finals for both NBC and ESPN and both times he was awful. Do you know why? Because he's just he's great at playing basketball. Not at the other parts of basketball. So I put a bunch of blame there on the other hand, I read this article the day mcmenamin has out there. And I put plenty of blame on the Brian James because this is kind of the classic LeBron thing where when things go, right? Lebron gets the credit because well, it's the Braun eight straight finals, and and yeah, LeBron's the GM. Lebron's got his Rich Paul as his agent, and they get their kind of guys and they put together the team. What about when the roster goes wrong? He can say, hey, I was there for three hour meeting. Then I got an plane, and I flew to parts unknown. But shame on you. If it really matter to you would've stayed there and amnesty in town, not do a press conference. I'm gonna recruit players I'm gonna get the right guys to fit with me. Otherwise, you essentially signed off on whatever magic wanted to do. And if what he proposed you didn't think it would work. You should have spoke up then or forever, hold your peace. But he didn't. We can blame Luke Walton. We could bring the unlucky -ness of injury. We can say that if atlons those state healthy way would have been better than agree with a lot of that. I grew should should some of their younger players not being there feeling so much. Of course. Of course. They were unlucky because they're on healthy. And then they let all the pressure get to them, and they didn't truly know how to play with LeBron than they had learned to play without LeBron and LeBron beam back and some of that is just happenstance when you have injuries. But dude, this this started when Magic Johnson showed up at his doorstep without his head coach and didn't have a great plan. And then continued on when the and said, hey, you know, I don't love that plan. I've always had this plan. This is the plan that works for me. Then if you want me, this is how we got to do it. And even though we won't put blame on him for the the players that were acquired. We've put blame on him for the players that required. Because if he didn't like it at any time the Brian James could've picked up the bat phone. And fix things or at least at least tried to alter history. Look like Batman and Robin. There will be another Batman. There will be another in. They're going to try and revamp. This this franchise, and do it very very soon. But oftentimes like the butterfly effect. It starts with the first thing with the first meeting and the plan. And everything else goes from there. It's kids joy Taylor with the news. No on the news. This is the headline news burgers made plenty of headlines over the years in his weekly in season appearances on ninety three seven the fan in Pittsburgh. And that might be ending according to Matt. Berta? Mommy, I'm going to put your last name. Sorry if he's been a fan site at dot com. He broke the news and said, according to multiple sources rothlisburger is expected to relinquish his regular radio show in Pittsburgh prior to next season. He is hoping that it helps his standing with his teammates. I actually think this is a good idea. I think so too right now Tom Brady has his weekly appearance that he does on W. Why and Boston but Brady is notorious for saying nothing lots of things that don't mean anything at all brought this burgers kind of the opposite. This has been the Genesis for a lot of the relationship breakdowns in Pittsburgh, Roth Asperger's weekly appearance because he's called teammates. And he's just he just kind of says things that you as an organization, you just kind of wish that he wouldn't it may not be outwardly, disrespectful or. Something that he doesn't feel but it's like this is just kind of causing problems for everyone. There's also look you lie. Manning has his own in New York, and he's called out players in the past as well and sometimes gently so and like look in Ben Rothlisberger defense. There have been plenty of times when he's call themselves. Like, look, I got to be better. I didn't play. Well. But the fact is that when you say anything negative about teammate or about a performance it gets amplified. And it's Pittsburgh. It's the Steelers it's been burger saying it, so this is smart just because like look what is the win there. There's no what's the winner. You get you get you get you get a cop car, you get some more money. Like you're making a ton of money. Do need a cop car. I think I for someone like Brady or office burger, it's a way to kind of reach out to the fans that's not like, Twitter Instagram or something like that. So I can understand wanting to do it's having some availibility, but like for Brady doesn't do anything because he never really says anything revealing and for bras burger, it's just an opportunity for him to to step in it with his. Teammates. Because like you said what's the win? There's no win there. These are all pretty much conversations that should be had behind closed doors. And if you if you're going to go on and say things that are going to cause problems in the locker room is not helping anything. You can it's interesting long enough. The fans are already like, you know, it's interesting though that like he is not. And maybe this is just knowing yourself that he doesn't he doesn't have the governor to not to to be Derek jeeter right to say nothing. Nothing. Interesting. It's not the Pittsburgh way. Mike Tomlin is great at the Mike. But he'll say what he feels. It's not like he goes up there and says nothing I mean, we almost always have a sound bite from him. So if I also not the culture there also think it's players are a little bit more in their feelings now than they used to be. And when they hear things it bothers them more specially skill position guys. There's also if you're not winning it kind of adds to the frustration patients goes so sixteen years ago. Lebron sparked the biggest bidding war the shoe games ever seen. He eventually into ninety million dollar contract with Nike as we know signed Williamson who spent much of his career being compared to LeBron might eclipse him Nick dipaolo ESPN reported at some believe zions first you contract would be. Over one hundred million dollars. He said as many as six brands let the sign him, including Nike Adidas under armor, new balance Puma, and ANSA, the expectation is that he will sign his deal before the may fourteenth draft lottery and the draft order will be sets quote in my lifetime. I think it's going to be the biggest bidding war ever done. That's former sneaker executives Sony Vaccaro. I would put them all on go. This is really not that surprising. I mean, the market has gone up tremendously over the last sixteen years. Your game is not necessarily not necessarily in terms of the market going up. There's a lot of there's there's basically rich and poor. Right. And then there's guys that shoes to wear the Chinese stinkers or whatever. But there's there's not as many big time sneaker deals. No, no. I don't mean as far as as many as the big deals like mostly every just every jar has. General Larkin is gonna roll market has not. So and this doesn't surprise me. I mean, we all were just discussing science shoes the moment that the shoe exploded his contract is going to be huge. Everyone's paying attention to everything does I I agree. I think here's a here's a very interesting part to me one of the things that hurts. Lebron is his shoes are built for LeBron LeBron James's six eight two hundred sixty two hundred seventy pounds, whatever. Right. And so you're basically it's like it's like David Robinson's old pumps like those were cool shoes. But there are built for David Robinson. So most guys aren't built like David Robinson. It will be interesting if they can create a shoe that is comfortable and fetching and yet is built for Zion Williamson, which is going to have to be reinforced with reinforced steel now you you're right about that. Because LeBron shoes are very big. They give you like an extra inch and a half. Yes. Just putting them on. I know you're a sneaker girl. Your sneaker had like giant shoes can't shoot. That is an interesting point. I do think they're going to they're going to have to be crafty with that or make a Cup. Versions of them. I don't know. But either way he's gonna get a huge deal, and they're going to sell a bunch of them. So finally, you were just talking about this Lakers wrapping up their disappointing season and a lot of their frustrations being blamed on the young roster. And they they're young roster. Believe that LeBron's take some blame to according to David minimum an open what became an open forum. Several players spoke up players focused on the bronze inconsistency body language inconsistent bilingual throughout the year. He copped to the critique telling his teammates, then essence, cutting up behavior, like slumped, shoulders and sideways glances has been something. He's tried to work on his entire career. This was a meeting a team meeting where this was discussed. I find it very interesting that this half this actually happened because it kind of felt like they were completely disconnected. It was almost like is anyone having a conversation with anyone about what's going on. Apparently, they did have a conversation about it. I I don't want to overly criticize the bomb because I do not feel like this is all LeBron's fault. What's happened with the Lakers? I think it was. Matter of the way, the roster was constructed. I think that the injuries played an incredible part if not ninety nine percent of the issues that the Lakers had this year because I don't know who can win with three of your starters out. There's a lot of other things going on. But this is kind of disappointing coming from LeBron like, the brand is Ben widely considered for most of his career to be a great teammate. And he he does get a motion. All he does show the frustration on his face. And he does have these body language things which I don't really like to get into bilingual because I feel like it's so pretentious of us is immediate sale that body language is not positive. But you don't know what's going on really in that situation. They just frustrated together. Are they frustrated with each other? It's we're kind of playing armchair psychologist with that. But clearly, this was a thing. Well, look, if it was just by language, and it wasn't the things that he was saying about Anthony Davis for about his own teaming it open or or the way he was playing or the fact that you look disengaged like it's. All part of the yet. They saw it. We saw it. He wasn't engaged. He wasn't into them. He just wasn't. And he was he LeBron was doing what immature people do what? My son does my son. Grounds out at first base. And he goes and sits down at the end the bench and he takes office helmet. Takes off his gloves. And you're like look, dude. Nobody cares. You can't let your emotions rule you. Correct. And when you're LeBron James, you know, the cameras on you. And you know, the team is struggling you have to be the guy going we're gonna find I'm into it. Let's go instead. And I and and you can an Lakers guys will tell me he's always sat the bench. I get it. I get it. But you know, what they can do. They can move the throne chair down a little bit, and he can sit closer in you have to adjust. How you always do things doesn't work. It doesn't work at the beginning of your life work at the end of your life. You have to adjust. How you do things or you're just going to be alone. That's the that's the way it is in every aspect in business, and in your private life like you have to adjust things, and sometimes you just have to manufacture positive energy for the people around you, and it's going to end up benefiting you as well, you can't be ruled by your emotions. And that's that's really what happened here Pete. Correal the former longtime Princeton coach said be lightbulb light up every room that you're in your completely completely accurate with your comments a joy Taylor with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for. Stopping by the heard lie, the greatest coach in the history of college basketball, shoe would be remembered this weekend will he we discuss next in the hurt. 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Coming into the herd. I'm doug. Golly. Pilion for Colin cowherd. Joy Taylor alongside of you're having a great Monday as final four is set. And of course, fall in the final four you got masters and tiger played well this weekend. We'll get to that upcoming got a jam packed show for your Stephen Jackson. Join us next hour so tool TJ who sh- men's auto. Let's welcome in Evan Daniels joins us. He's college basketball insider for Fox Sports, he's director of basketball recruiting for twenty four seven, and of course, host the sidelines with Evan Daniels. That's an award winning podcast. I gave it an award because I'm gonna be on it a little bit later on today. I watched Texas Tech and one of the crazy things about the elite eight is everybody forgets the Sweet Sixteen right? I don't you don't because we watch the games, Texas Tech. So thoroughly embarrassed and demolished Michigan. Who's a tremendous team with an incredible coach, it's sixteen points of the half. And it was it was like just just run the clock. We just want. They wanted no part of Texas Tech's defense and their expressions, the mannerisms the style by which they many things they do are like Bob Knight because Bob Knight coach at Texas Tech. And he had Sistan coach who just so happens now to be the head coach at Texas Tech. Who's you know who five years ago was coaching division to basketball, then took over Arkansas Little Rock won thirty games. So I I I guess my question is here this. Crispier coaching in the final four incredible turnaround story at Texas Tech. But does it give your thirty three years old the thirty three when I say Bob Knight. What comes to your mind, Indiana success and outbursts, the video of the chair thrown across the floor of the audio of the from the locker room against Purdue? But obviously the success at Indiana and the three titles. I also think though that again, you're in this kind of generation because his last I don't know five years or so six years, we're on TV where he was grumpy, right? Not really engaged in. He had an incredible personality. He won three national titles. He won the big ten like eight times. And that was back. They had no tournament. Right. Went to five final four. She's a windiest basketball. Coach college basketball coach of all time when he retired all time. And yet we don't discuss a now chefs keys, a protege of his crispier is the embodiment coaching style. Wise of what he does. I kind of think that's one of the things we should recognize this is that crazy. No. I don't think that's crazy though. I was actually texting with the buddy during the game yesterday. And he kept saying how much this team reminded him of old Bob Knight teams from a fundamental standpoint. And this team is ridiculously fundamentally sound with everything they do and I was talking to a ACC head coach yesterday. And he was raving him just about how hard they play and compete on every possession. But it's just the little things like the jump stops the face cuts, the close outs and they just play so hard and compete. And and I thought Mark you said it best he called him Hansie. They were all over the place. They play play the right way and super aggressive. All right. Zion Zion loses. Kindergartens it's a shot over him. RJ barrett. Misses a free throw curriculum wrong. RJ bear was seen coming into the year as the most clutch non college player. We had seen a longtime. Correct. Yeah. Won a gold medal United against Calipari coached team for Canada basketball. He was the guy heading heading into college. He was the guy that was supposed to be the number one pick and he still going to be top three pick. But yeah, he he was the ultimate alpha coming in for sure did Zion help or hurt himself by playing in college basketball. He helped himself a great deal. He helped himself from a developmental standpoint. He got in shape he developed his body but his game developed too. I think across the board from a basketball standpoint, he got better and his work ethic improved. And I think from a brand standpoint he helped himself he helped himself from you know, he had followers on Instagram and Twitter prior. But that was just for dunks. I think now. Now, it's a he is must see television. It was I have to watch his eye on because I want to see what he does next. So the one in done we've only really had two teams of one in Duns when national champions Duke had one Kentucky had one since the one done era. Does this change how coaches recruit, I don't know if it changes? I mean, they're going to be forced to change soon enough because I think by two thousand twenty one or two thousand twenty two that rule is going to change. But if you look at the recruiting rankings over the last ten years. Four of the last five Duke has had the best recruiting class in five of the previous six Kentucky had the best recruiting class. And I think the thing about winning a national championship is I don't think you win national championship with just one and done players. And I think that's basically been proven because even the the teams that were freshmen Laden the Kentucky title and the Duke title while they had Kentucky at Anthony Davis. And Mark we stieg dad, Michael Kidd Gilchrist, but they also had Darius Miller who's still an NBA player and the Duke team had Quinn cook. So those teams had senior leadership and experience to go with those really gift affects just hard to get those guys stay around. Right. It's hard to get guys that want to come off the bench or wanna be ancillary pieces to the star young freshman and get and then get them to kind of mesh together. The only one seed remaining is Virginia. Are we bearing the lead because they had a miracle win against Purdue that they should be the favorite to win the whole thing. Well, I I think they are the favourite I think sometime. We're forgetting like this was a team you could make a case was the number one overall seed coming in to the NCAA tournament all the metrics. Adam number one, they're probably the second best defensive team in the country. You can make a case, then Texas Tech. They're both there. But I think there are a team that just has so many quality piece. I think Tony Bennett has done a good job of identifying roles for each of those kids on the team in like Mambi, the aqui Tae, and I don't think he gets enough credit one of the more underrated players around the country. And he really helps them just from a rim protection standpoint. He's quick off his feet. He's athlete. But yeah, I mean that that game was tremendous. And it's like any other games Virginia. If something doesn't go exactly right at the end of that game. They're not there if Kenny goings doesn't step out and make a three Michigan state's not there that wasn't even the play. Yeah. That was that wasn't even though isn't even even the play a checkout his podcast the sidelines with Evan Daniels. Evan great stuff. Thanks much. Join us. We'll see up at the final four. I donate a lot of people in the world. But there's one. Guy hate more than anyone. And today's the day. I hate him by that who it is next. One more heard the herd. Streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen live or on-demand whenever you like. Our world is full of the unexplainable mysterious events unusual objects and people who defy the tiny little categories that make us feel safe. I'm Erin minke. Most days I'm writing and producing the hit podcast lore. Now. 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Stephen Jackson is gonna join us upcoming in fifteen minutes. Also in the things you won't believe he Cleveland Browns are the favorites to win the AFC north. Right. Cleveland Browns was the note, it's April Fool's day. But ninety I actually find April Fools day to be quite annoying. I do I don't I don't I like Halloween, but I like funny costumes on Halloween. I'm not one of these guys. That's like oh scare the Piazza me on Halloween. I just not like I understand there's lots of emotions in life. You yet to peel them. Fear is one that naturally you will develop and have to overcome. I don't need additional fear. So the people who pull the like the funny. I don't know if you guys saw the Cam Newton. April Fool's prank where he offered up that he wanted his entire team to remain celibate. So they could focus on the season. And then said it was April Fools like that's funny as nothing I'm scared of. But but finding somebody's inner either insecurities, or deepest fears and exploiting them just to go. Like, Gotcha, April Fools doesn't seem like a cool deal to me. I don't know. I don't know. Are you a big, April Fools person? I used to be when I was younger. But now it's like they could go either way. Not everyone appreciates a practical joke. There's a, you know, look, there's there's a there's a line there. There's things that are funny. And there's things like oh. And usually to get to really do a good, April Fools joking. You kind of got that line. It's not worth it. I don't really like I don't really like practical jokes being played on me. So I like to be fair. No anyone who does. I really liked to be made to look like an ask. Like a joke. And then like, oh, you got me going to get you back worse. I like these people that like why I think Woche tweet on April Fools day. Like all the news do doing is grinding trying to find stores literally all he does. And then you throw a fake Adam Schefter out there. And you're like, I'm sorry. This tweet isn't actually bad one about fake Schefter fake, shefty, then you know, you can't get out and people don't take you serious anymore after that. That's very very true. She's joy Taylor. I'm Doug outlay. I found this when I was driving into into work today. Colin set is on the FOX lot is still called the FOX lot. I think it's so called the FOX lot, and it's in the heart of the west side of Los Angeles. And yes, this weekend was just perfect like I hate to brag. But I'm going to Brazil, and it was amazing. It was amazing seventy five to eighty five depending on where you were in southern California. Wispy clouds light breeze. Like you couldn't and we complain about all the rain. We've had in southern California is not the snow and the cold whatever I was watching Sunday night baseball last night in Philadelphia on anybody watched that that looked cold miserable. A one of the players for the Phillies actually had a full face mask on. You. Gotta hit hit a full fate like robber face masks on that does not. That's not the experience that I had this weekend. So different world. But because of traffic like he's always traffic like men how much better would southern California. If there was just a couple less hundred thousand people I've thought this in New York, New York and after snowstorm people stay inside. It's quiet. And you realize like, wow, the buildings are cool the streets. Some of them cobblestone really a unique city with the architecture. The new the old how much better New York be the one that many? But look I don't want. I don't. I don't want anybody to die just want to spread this out a little bit more. So that we can enjoy some of these places that we live a little bit better. But there are people I'd like to not die. But go away go away in sports. And by go away. I mean, like, look there are just certain people, and this is a day, not just April Fool's day. This is a day which to me the number one guy or girl or person needs to go away. All right. Let's start with other people. There's there's the we sports fan, for example, and this especially in professional sports, college sports. I'll give you a little bit of a pass because you might have grown up in a college town. We might have gone to that school. I don't still in love it. But the we sports fan we got a bunch of cap space. We are going to draft Kyla Murray. We gotta tank so weak and get Zion. Williamson men we got to trade some guys. So we can get Anthony Davis. We who is a we are you practicing every day. Are you breaking down tape? Are you you are paying money to see somebody else perform and pay money to wear their jersey. We guys usually jersey guy, and we're kind of done with you like you're a guy who everyone else. No, one will say it when you're in the room when you walk out of the room. You're like did he really just say we need to resign deck Prescott? We are. Here's a guy Gulf round guy. You're familiar Gulf round guy. Well, you know, played TPC sawgrass at one of my buddies, and we're on the Gulf tour and know the seventeenth the island green. I was thinking seven iron. But I decided the wind was at my back. I would hit an eight iron. And you know, how the thing lies and I just like like. I don't care. I don't golf is something that I like to experience on my own. I definitely can't experience it through your eyes. I play golf, but not a golfer, and you to really don't want to hear about I don't really want to hear about your trip to Ireland in which he played in the muck and the rain and then went and drank a bunch of pints doesn't sound like an enjoyable trip. Because I wasn't there. I can't get it Gulf round guy. Men a shot a seventy nine today really really had the driver going. You can go. Little league that now I'll admitted I can be this guy occasionally. You don't know you don't know love until you got your own kid. And you don't you don't know joy in sports until you see your own kid perform on a sports field. That said keep it to yourself. Right. Here's my videos of slugger, getting a single. Here's my videos of mumble pitching. Look. He's the next Clayton Kershaw. Dude. He lobbed that thing up the other kids swung. And then ran to third base instead of first base. I get it. You love your child. We all of our kids. I get it. He's playing sports, and he doesn't have you didn't take video of him playing four-night. Congratulations on winning the fortnight battle for one day. But literally dad we don't care go away. Fantasy football guy. I play a little fantasy football. But I will tell you that every season runs into the next. Whether you do a keeper league or you have I don't even know what the when you redraft every year. Whatever league you do. Get multiple leagues. And if you happen to be lucky enough to have a backup running back who happens to get the ball around the goal line twice in a game because of some odd circumstances, it doesn't make us some sports savant above everybody else. Congratulations, you paid attention on Thursday to the waiver wire. So you knew who is available, and you watch all the different TV shows and you happen to pick the right guy who happened to catch the touchdown pass. That was really meaningless because your team was down four touchdowns. And all of us turned the game off only you kept the game on because you like fantasy sports fantasy sports vacations. Those are you can tell us about it. But we don't care about. But the number one guy or girl or grandma or grandpa or even kid that frankly in sports, you need to give it a rest, you're not smarter than the rest of us is multiple bracket guy. Oh, there's nothing worse than multiple bracket guy. I filled out fifteen brackets and bracket to be has Michigan state and Texas Tech and Auburn and Virginia. And so I'm in the money. I'm the smart one volume brackets doesn't make you smarter. Heck, look I played college basketball for four years. I cut cover college for sixteen years. I grew up going to find a four is my dad's a former coach my brothers in assistant coaching college. I can quote you more chapter and verse on teams and styles. And you know, what I got one final fourteen. So look luck does play a factor. And maybe you nailed it. Maybe you paid attention to match ups, and you had some algorithm and you finally figured out, but multiple bracket guy does not own a piece of that argument. Right. Like, this is this is not the SAT that you get to take as many times, you can see your score can slowly improve. And you can take test prep. This is you get a piece of paper you fill out a bunch of names. And maybe you're so like somehow you're a genius now. Because one of your fifteen brackets Virginia happened to come from three points down with five and a half seconds to go and send it to overtime like get over it. Congratulations. If you want your pool. Congratulations. If you picked one two three or all four five four teams. But if you did it with multiple brackets, we have no respect for you zero. In fact, that was my opinion is so strong. My beliefs are so steadfast that I'm going to need to reconfigure it two three four five fifteen times over life is not a choose your own adventure. Choose your own adventure book. Do you ever have those a kid, you know, and people choose your own adventure? You read a chapter in the end, you would make a decision as what you can do and you turn to page forty page fifty or page sixty you don't get to read page forty fifty and sixty and then make a decision. No, no, no, no, no, choose your own adventure. If you believe Duke was gonna win national title, and they lost came up one bucket. Shortly guide doesn't make you the worst person on earth. But multiple bracket Guy Forget about literally dad and golf round guy and we sports fan fantasy football guy. Oh is there? Anything worse today than the guy doing the victory lap kind of like the? The camel on that commercial what day is it? What day is it hump the hump day commercial, which I love, but they are men mostly mostly a guy thing. Women win it, but women don't gloat and rub your nose in it nearly as they have class about it guys. Do not. Now, everybody bracket stakes buddy survived events. I've I've don't think I've ever spoken to someone who's bragged about having multiple brackets, Greg. Would you like to would you like to it on this because we were gonna meeting today, and I saw Michigan state circled as a champion. And and I said who's bracket is at and Greg to you said, that's my bracket. Doug, what is wrong with wanted to give yourself the best chance to win. Well, because that's nonsense. You you fill out one bracket. And those are the ones you predicted. You can't just continue to fill out rackets in one of them's right, and then brag about it. It doesn't even make any sense. The purpose of filling out a bracket. What if you have multiple friends that offer you to join their pool in us? I mean, you can switch out switch out the earlier rounds of you want to have some fun, but like your final. Fortunately, I don't think you can switch out. I think you you go with the bracket that goes, you racket, you know, if you want an alternative ending, but you can't sit there and claim like some sort of Brent superiority team. Yeah. When you got when you did you just don't. Hey, hey, I was lucky pay. I was super super on this. I'm not with you on the week guy. That's a fan thing. Like, you can't obnoxious when media members do it. Although I am guilty of that. So whatever I'm obnoxious, but we doesn't bother me so much because you you gotta have some loyalty if you're fan guy. That's my my team. But we we know, but nobody my early. I think there there is a painting in the meetings and stuff and vans. Do play a part in the environment in places why home field or home co homecourt advantage in with me on golf, Ron guy. I don't play golf. So I'm sure somebody comes up to you and says, yeah, I was out at Sherwood today. You're like I wish I had hearing aids that I could turn off. I mean that does that does nothing for me. Literally dead. Literally dad, you know. I don't know. I kind of understand it. I don't mind people who are proud of their kids playing sports when they get to involve screaming at the Ravs. They start screaming at other kids start fighting with other parents in the stands, that's obviously ridiculous. But you know, being proud of your kid playing sports is fine fantasy guy. I'm fantasy fantasy guy do. Brag about your finished. Yeah. I'm fantasy guy. She are your two of these. I'm obnoxious when I lose an actress when I win fantasy your your fantasy guy. These are things that I've had all the time. I feel free to talk to you about your fantasy team we can discuss because that's the thing about about playing fantasy sports right now. No, one cares because nobody has your team. Nobody cares. It's like your vacation is like your kids. Like don't really talk more about your vacation other than we had a good time. Anything more than that? I got up if you ever go. Let me know a great place you to stay got a great recommendation does fine recommendation. Do not wanna see slide show. And like, no, no just just send you a couple of photos like doodo to don't care. It's going right to delete right to delete. I will think less of you. And I will I will go who diss on my text back to LeBron shut it down for the year. Right. Move a wrong move. Stephen Jackson has the answer upcoming next. 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Let me start with college basketball for we work our way back to LeBron because we did just sees Williamson, and you and I have discussed this you've discussed on air on how you would have gotten played at Zona and win a national championship. What's your takeaway from the Zayn Williamson experience watching him play it to I I want to send us out zero so family we lost we lost upon coach yesterday. So I'm going to send loved him and his family Zahn waves the special. He's very special something we'd never seen before. I think to be to eighty forty percents vertical been able to dominate and. College every game. Even though they didn't win. He was dominated whole time. I think this kid has special. I think this guy's limit form. And he's going to take to take a little bit of NBA similar to LeBron. Did what is what what is he in the NBA? What is he? Yeah. I think he's a power forward and at three sometimes you can play center in his league. Now, so small ball fiber all ball five. Definitely. But I think what he needs to add is a mid range game and one thing about when he gets to the NBA everybody's athletic. Everybody's tall. Everybody's everybody can block your shot. Everybody can jump with you. He will have to get a mere rage game and ask some some more office and moved to his game. You can't just won't be able to overpower everybody. Like, you didn't call it. I believe this the stat. I saw was zero pull up jump shots. Right. The the entire season. He e the catching shoot Nordea was going, right? But he does have I'll tell you what he does have a good post game for for a young guy. And you know, one of the things that so many of the small ball fives. Don't have is they become you know, face to face up shooters they can guard post players, but he can actually score one on one of the post. He's. Really agile for a man of his strength just athleticism, and like I say, it's just vertical like moves laterally. Well, and like you said. Like, I said, I think the move against USC UCF when he spot and got the anyone on a seven footer you've seen how he was able to stop and go into a second move. He has a lot of stuff that you can't teach. Why do you think the one in done, you know, the two schools that approves the most one in Dunn's do can and Kentucky art have not had more success in the NCA tournament. Good question. I think. A lot of these kids are still young first year. So you know, the colleges is different to him. That's just like being in the NBA. Your rookie is going to be different to you. But. I love I love the fact when it was kids can go out of high school. I mean, you can get a job and working McDonalds a sixteen seventeen why are you gonna go play the game? You can you can go to warring kill yourself at eighteen but you can't provide play basketball game. So I think I think guys they should kill their rule. I mean, if you physically able to play the game of basketball eighteen and go to the NBA LeBron day like Kobe did. I mean, like a lot of guys did I think you should be able to. I I don't think it should be forced to go to college. Well, there's two different parts of that. I mean, actually could go out you could go to the G league. You've always been able to go to the league and more go play overseas. And obviously, it's collectively bargain upon rule of thumb name. It's an MBA rules. You know, not a college basketball rule. Just like we're gonna McDonald's though, same paycheck. I understand. But I'm saying people people hold the NCAA accountable for something that the NBA and the NBA PA agreed upon no reaction, right right there. Like, let's say like, no, no, it's not I've actually behavioral. And the problem is not that LeBron's. And the Kobe's. The problem is all the other dudes that think they're LeBron's and Kobe's and a really not you can't say that. Because I was the second to the last pick. I didn't go to college, right? Our the second to last pick. And nobody expected me to make it fourteen years. So you you have some guys that that people are expecting to make 'em make it, but at the same time it has a lot to do with the people around him. You know, I was blessed. I came into the league with Stefan marberry, Johnny Newman. Sherman Douglas, my second year was Steve Kerr Tim Duncan Danny ferry. So Steve Steve Smith. So I played with great coaches and around great guys. But when you have a lot of these guys say say a kid like Devon Booker. Yeah. He's he's more mature. I'm not I'm not as as example, if he came into the league as young kid on a team like famous that wasn't winning. It will be hard for one because he has he has no veteran on a team. They're not winning. So everything has been nitpicked is going to be hard for him to succeed. But when you put a kid like that. In a good environment on a good organization. That's used to win. That knows how to mentor him is a different situation. Stephen Jackson joining us here in the heard. All right. Let's get to some NBA stuff. The Lakers are decided to shut LeBron down. First thing to me is that's a tough sale your season ticket. Now, you're not gonna see LeBron the playoffs, but you're not going to see LeBron the rest of the way is this a smart decision to shut him down. Yeah. I mean, why wouldn't you? Okay. So you let him play. Pulls a Killys or ending last four or five games. What are you going to tell you fans go into next season? You season is really shot. You really don't have. No hope rest him stop building for next year. It don't make. No sees no reason for him to go out there and get hurt. You're not planning anything who's to blame in the in the pecking order of is most to blame for this. What can only be deemed as a disastrous season? Who'd he put up top. Who'd he put beneath them. How does it go all in the same boat? You can't you can't point to imagine you came point the finger. Lebron you can't point to figure out, you know, everybody's everybody's a part of the blame. You know, the young guys in developed like they thought LeBron he walked into a rude awakening. He didn't know to west. He didn't know to Wisconsin. Was this deepen this good Luke Walton, I've been said it, but he's not the coach for these guys. So a lot of stuff you can't just blend one person a lot of stuff went wrong. And you know, that's why the season ended up the way. It did. See I start with the premise of magic screwed up. At initial meeting because he didn't bring Luke like, look if you're not gonna bring Luke to the meeting, then you should fired Luke that right? If you're not going to bring them to the meeting, he's not going to be part of the sale for your team beat. You've you've essentially told the bron- like our coach the coach doesn't matter. And and LeBron's is smart, dude. Like, he senses Luke's not here. He really doesn't matter. And anyone reads the situation, and then, you know, the personnel. They picked right. Like, I'm with joy, joy joy, right injuries. Played a major factor. They were playing well, they were top seven in every defensive metric they were a playoff team, and they were getting more and more cohesive learned to play with LeBron James. We can't under sell the injuries, but even with without the injuries. Like, look, they let brook Lopez go, and they thought, you know, javale McGee and. And Tyson Chandler who's just washed like, you know, then midseason even trade away zoo botch. They who is their best. Big best big is only twenty one years old and rookie control contract. Like, the personnel has been a major major fact, and this is the first year we've seen the Bronco twenty and twenty seven, you know, his record his work on a court. And you know, like you said injuries had allowed to do it. You can't expect season the goal the way you wanted to guide. You don't know what guys going to be on the lineup. And I think not having Lonzo ball had a lot to do with it too. Sure. You know, like I said people keep their same energy. It happens. People been waiting all. All this time to bash LeBron to have some bad to say about this man and been in the finals his whole career. But you know, he's he just came into a rude awakening to Western Conference as a different monster. Lebron you got to know that lost in all of this because we're so focused and LeBron there's a lot of talk of the MVP is the thunder have gone from a team that. I thought had a chance to maybe not beat the warriors. But maybe the best chance to stretch out the warriors, right? You've got a superstar player in Russell Westbrook. You got a superstar player? Nepal. George who was playing at an MVP level. You got a big physical team they can place. They have a small ball line of as well. And they got dinner Schreuder who was the starting point guard last year off the bench to come in and change and change what they look like in the fourth quarter. What's happened to me? I was at the last game against Golden State. That's home game to me. They first of all they don't have any shooters team is not that good to me when they were rolling a winning those games. You got two players that was just dominant. Like, you said pause have an MVP year doing that time before also break also break when there was winning all those games him Russ with dominant when those two guys on dominant the rest of the guys they have no shooting. They have a guard on their team that they're paying eighty million that gets hacking shacked. Are you kidding me? So we got shooting Ford's getting Hackensack than NBA. Now. This is what has come to. So they have no shooting. Ferguson can't really shoot. He's an athlete, but he can't really shoot that third. Best player is Stephen Adams. And he don't really want the ball. He wanted to do the dirty work. So the team is talented. They have two talented players and Russ and Paul. But when they're not going is impossible to team is not good as Stephen Jackson NBA champion, fourteen seasons in the NBA. And all is giving us that sage wisdom Jack's great stuff. So actually joy Taylor with the news. This is the headline news Steve NASA sticking up for his godson after his game against Michigan state RJ Barrett. Went seven for seven teams in floor, but you'd have seven turnovers and that big mission the free throw line than ten seconds left to national Nashville, the Twitter to rave about Barrett and said RJ Barrett. Yes, is my godson is a next level playmaker. At his age eighteen and size makes every read pass. This is one skill that is easier many respects due to the rules of the NBA level. But so damn valuable blown away at the read deliveries. He made. Repetitively? So he's back. I don't think necessarily had a bad game. Obviously the seven turnovers is his rough. But he was duke's second highest highest scorer in the game. With twenty one points. He's incredibly valuable, and I think that RJ Barrett translates to the NBA pretty seamlessly. He obviously has some more development that he needs to do. And he's very young. But I don't want to judge Perez entire time at Duke an entire basketball career thus far based off of what happened in this game against eight. I think that's fair. But like look when they lost Gonzaga. In November nine of twenty five when they lost to Syracuse and Zainuddin. Reddish didn't play eight of thirty four seventeen from three. You know? And then and then when they lost North Carolina ten of twenty-seven, look, I like R J, Barry, I do think he's a talent. And I, but I do think I think this Nashes. Every read was like stop it with the every read every redesigned to shoot the ball. Right. And and here's the problem with RJ Barrett is he's only really played this way. Which is he's only been the guy with the ball in his hands to make every read and every decision, which is great. If you're James harden good, and you can make all those shots and make all those rates. But if you can't guys will turn on you, right? Because look dude he's gonna shoot thirty times to make eight times. Like, no, no, no, it doesn't it doesn't work for me. So I don't know whether or not he's a good enough shotmaker to shoot the volume of shots or gonna pass. Do I grieve with Steve nasty idea that hey, the court's going to open up in the NBA not good spacing, and they didn't have good enough shooting? Like sure, but they were running isos and giving him space and his decision on read more often than not was to shoot the ball. Turn it over some of that is spacing with some of that is on him. I mean, he's he's he's going to go down as from scoring standpoint. It's one of the best in Duke history. The average twenty two point six point seven point, six rebounds of. Four point three cents per game this year, I hear everything is you're saying having a shooting to allow him to be him as what Steve Nash say. Right. And I think that I mean, he's going to be a top three pigs. Yeah. In the drops the regardless and he should be. He has a wealth of experience thus far and he had a great season. So I kind of coming down because of this game. And I well. Well, this is pump the brakes a little bit react to them. We're going to talk about the top of the hour. But it is interesting to me. Well, we saw this weekend reaction RJ Barrett. Reactions sign Williamson and what you'll see in the future. Only sells. Why college basketball is the right fit for all of these guys that up so the Broncos and the rest of the season. But apparently wasn't as choice. You had been getting rid of the rest of the Lakers after they were officially eliminated. But now, you'll miss the remaining five games of the year. Magic Johnson said in a statement after consulting with our team doctors and medical staff we have decided to hold the von out of games remainder of the season. This decision will allow his to fully heal and is the best for the future success of both LeBron and the Lakers. I really think that he would not play if he wanted to play. I think I think he does wanna play. But I also think his injury was more severe than he led on which is kind of frustrating because if this point in your career, if you're LeBron do you really have anything to prove as far as fighting through an injury in what's what was widely considered as kind of experimental year with the Lakers. I think we all kind of undersold the expectations that they were actually going to have. But you know, the trainer putting out that he should have been out for six months, and he really was only opera six weeks and. You believe what you want when it comes to that. But I do think his injury was more severe. And I think it was. I mean, it was obviously is most of your injury of his career thus far. Why why force them back? What for what? Listen to the the issue is now on the issues. Issue's not foresee him back. The issue is this is why I know calling offered up. Well, why don't you try you? Can't treat him. He's that valuable commodity. You can't sit him in game because he's debt viable commodity. Like is this a business, and he is the lead in this play? And you can't I understand. Now, they're like it's not worth it to them for the future. But at some point the customer is going to sit there and go like. I don't know what an extra five games does couple on TNT. And there's three home games nothing right now in still averaging twenty seven seven and seven right. So to me, it's not so much about these last five games as it was as a complete mismanagement of the injury to begin with. If you really need to sit out the last five games of the season. He should have never come back. He wasn't ready. Correct. Or what you should have done is leaked the story to Christmas. Are that? If it was the playoffs you could be playing, right. That's what they said. Like, you're injured or you're hurt. If you're heard get out there, you know, ice up if you're injured he'll come on the court, but don't give me this like well was really more severe than he's letting on because he we're talking both sides the like, well, he's still averaging a bunch of points. I would agree if anybody said, yes. And look the same and then an injury last longer because you're older like that's totally reasonable and green injuries any that any of that soft tissue stuff. That's tricky snap. Totally understand that manage it properly. And like you said it's okay to come back and not be as exactly one hundred percent, but you are able to play. But then why is it up? Last five games of the season. Like, what does those extra five game going to do that you mis manage the injury from the from the beginning? I think there's one last thing that is really interesting to me is we all assume that they're gonna put shooters round of next year. And maybe Anthony Davis with them next year, and it will work, but you're making the assumption that what worked for the Braun it thirty thirty one thirty two thirty three. It's different when you're thirty four thirty bucks just is still think he does need shooters. But you're right washes game is jesting finally many as soon the giants move off of ally. Manning this off season. But it seems like the end is not near the giant seem intent on not starting a rookie. Which means they need a veteran to start again in two thousand twenty they don't drop the quarterback for the future and this year's draft. And according to s and why they're not kidding about bringing meaning back in two thousand twenty. Yes, really, the key people organization don't think he's done and they feel they saw on a positive signs in the second half of last year. They really do want him around throughout the next giants franchise quarterback if they can make it work. I don't really know what the giants are doing. In this situation. I really felt for Eli with the macadear situation when they benched him at the end of the season and mess up that streak I feel like it was all lies fault. What was going on? There nor did I think that it's benching him was going to save the season to season was clearly over. Not not last year. I know they weren't going to bench him. They were never going to bench him. They were going to bring in other quarterbacks in the second half to to see what they had. And he said like, let's not get it. Twisted you lie. Manning power-play. Hey, they said, hey, we're gonna bring in these other quarterback, Gino and the other kid from from Texas Davis Webb Texas Tech and Cal and and he's like, no, no, no. If you're going to bring somebody in the finished the game, I just won't start fine. And they did that for one game. And everybody liked what does you need to do, you know Smith, and that's the part? That's the point. We wanna bring a Davis. I was on side. And that's what I'm saying. That's past like, we're past that now, we know what you lie is at this point. It's early we do, but they don't something. I don't know what they're doing because role. They're either they're all this is all just just dangling a carrot over here. I may tension to and they really do have a plan or they just really do not understand what's going on with manning. And I I feel like it's it's kind of a disrespect that you Manning's career clicked doesn't get the credit. He deserves. He did win two Super Bowls and beat Tom Brady and his prime and both of them. But it's like we reached that point. Yeah. Look, I think they're probably handling it. Right. Just because they don't want anybody to know that they're either going to go to draft one or they're going to trade for Josh Rosen that feels like the only two possible options and everyone's scared to saying something bad about like is the second. You do down haven't been back and do that's what happened to you lose your GM your coach quarterback coach offense? According they're all gone because they all said like a maybe lies the Odell Beck junior. Right. He said, you know, maybe a little bit of the problem. Now. He's in Cleveland. I wouldn't say anything bad about him either. That's the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by heard lie. Guess what time it is kids? It's NFL over under time guess who's the favorite to win. The most games in the NFL. Even though they've had the most departures in the NFL. We'll get to that next in the hurt. Be sure to catch live additions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific everyone. I'm Dr ause. 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Now, look this is sports radio fodder. One. Oh, one is not we don't even have the NFL draft yet. But free agency is generally settled, we don't know where calamari will go. We don't know where Nick Bosa will go, we don't know, etc. Etc. Etc. But it's still fun. None the less. And there are several curious ones. Right. Like the Cleveland Browns have the highest win total of anybody in the NFC north at nine games. That's above that of the Dallas Cowboys. Pittsburgh Steelers also have nine games. So technically Cleveland and Pittsburgh at nine. But in terms of talent Cleveland would seemingly have more. As Pittsburgh's tries to reestablish their culture. But look up top there. That's the New England Patriots. And look Vegas is generally smarter than the rest of us. They use analytics and data and they've been doing this for basically one hundred years trying to figure out how do we gotta we nail about about. Right. Every teams total. You know for the last thirty years really there's been so much data. They've been able to accumulate then more often than not Vegas knows. They can't account for a massive injury. Especially a debilitating one at quarterback or maybe the dysfunction within locker rooms or the turn around in circles or the Cleveland Browns head last year when you make a coaching change offense coordinator change in automatic. And then a soft spot in the schedule and the thing just turn around. But it feels like the the analytics go out the window when it comes to New England Patriots. Does it granted? So far the dolphins have been at least underwhelming in terms of what we think the product will look like on the field. But the jets should be better with wavy on bell. They couldn't be worse in terms of offensive weaponry the Buffalo Bills. One would think would be better. Now the Josh Allen in his second year, and they continue to try and rebuild around him more than anything. What are the patriots going to look like? So if we take out the Super Bowl Super Bowl which Tom Brady scored threw for one touchdown pass one. We have to remember they lost their left tackle they lost one of their elite defensive players defensive end, Trey flowers. Oh, yeah. And they lost their hall of fame tight end. Oh, did I mention they lost their defensive coordinator and their replacement a defensive coordinator? Now, this is a little bit like Nick Sabin. Who says look I don't just poop out running backs poop out players. They don't just poop out defensive coordinators. A New England. We also remember the Tom Brady faded at the end of last regular season. He's not alone. Philip rivers did. Drew Brees did and Tom Brady did those older quarterbacks. Look like older quarterbacks. Once you get into December. They don't throw the football nearly as well and the patriots prepared for this with soda Michelle's their star running back. I get it. But the idea that bay that Vegas with all their analytics all the numbers. Well know, everybody's somewhere between six and ten wins except the patriots who should have I play schedule a more difficult division a year older Tom Brady, a new left tackle or placement for trae flowers, and oh, yeah. By the way. No, rob gronkowski. I got we really sure that. That's the one that. That's the team we expect to win the most games. They didn't win the most games this year that it when the second most games this year. Did they dominate the chargers when they got them on their home field. Sure. Absolutely. They did. And if you wanna make the argument, a they have one fewer than eleven games since Tom Brady was coming off of an ACL injury. That's a fair point to make. But just like join I discussed LeBron is not the same thirty five. Tom Brady is not the same in his forties. Nor should he be expected to be the same. And then you take away albeit an older weapon, but one that was still very well respected in one that he counted on key situations. Aim was a good block and rob gronkowski. You just think that that's that easy as long as they throw Brady out there as long as they throw Bella checkout. There's long as they're in the AFC east. You can put them down for eleven wins. You get eleven and a half. Go all in on the under for the patriots. I'm not going to sit here and call time of death predict gloom and doom. But it does feel like that would have been a great time for Tom Brady to walk away walk into the sunset right right off into the sunset skews me. And he didn't. And what happens when guys stay too long? Tom brady. Staying too long reminds me of pickup basketball pickup basketball when joy. Not really. But have you have you have played pick up basketball? And what's the rule in pick up? When guys start taking off their shoes. And somebody goes, hey, let's run one more. And. Why Saami I gotta go. And everybody there's like nine guys, and they're like, hey, Al Roman more, you how much you Romo more and you're like. All right. I'll run one more. What happens that that last game usually terrible. And somebody gets hurt. That's what happens and no into walkaway. Right. Brett farve bread far was done. He was on the tractor. He threw a pick in New Orleans use like done. And then chilly says, hey, get on the team plane, go down to Mississippi and makes don't come back unless you got Brett farve on it and the bring back but far from what happens due to never been hurt so badly couldn't play football. He gets hurt and the dome in Minneapolis, literally, not figuratively literally collapsed, literally running one more back. Not smart go out on top you hit the game winner. And it might be your last game. It is your last game. Somebody always gets her always gets hurt. I would take the under. And by the way, the Seahawks eight and a half take the over there. Russell westbrook's. Russell Wilson's our quarterback. They'll win and they're trending up, even at the divisions more difficult. If Jimmy is anything close to what we think he is. All right coming up next. Why college basketball one even wins Zion lost? This is the hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific. Welcome in. This is the heard wherever you be in. However, you baby making us part of your day. Thanks so much. Doug Gottlieb billion per Colin cowherd. But a great Monday show. We have for you live from Los Angeles, longside joy Taylor. When the iheartradio app, Fox Sports radio. Fox Sports one TJ's Donna will join us. We'll ask him if he thinks it's ridiculous as I do that the New England Patriots who had some key departures. Still pick that most wins in the NFL. There's nobody wants to be that guy to declare dead before. They're actually dead. Maybe there's mart. Maybe I'm stupid. I dunno. Plus who she's a? An avid Lakers fan. We'll ask him who's to blame. Most for the Lakers. Disastrous first season. With LeBron James I wanted to start with this. So Duke loses. Carolina loses Kentucky loses or maybe it should be pointed out that Michigan state won Texas Tech one Auburn won and Virginia one. And look we could get into the Virginia thing, which is really fascinating. The do. You foul up three points. This is the one reason you don't foul up three points. As Purdue goes from finally making it to the final four to once again coming up short against one of the members of the Bennett family, two thousand longtime Purdue head coach, gene Katie came up short against Tony Bennett said dick Bennett in the lead eight now, it's Tony Bennett who ends the season of mad painter. Of course, played for, gene. Katie and is now the longtime coach at Purdue. But I believe the whole experience, especially the term was an absolute win for college basketball because all of the things that you are told by members of the media and people on social media about what players don't get what they do receive isn't actually the reality of it think about it. How many of you heard of Carson Edwards, and it's hard for me. Because this is what I've done for sixteen years as a professional. It's what I did for five years is a college athlete. It's what I did. When I was a kid. I would always heard about Carson experts. I just would have. But how many of you heard about him before he put on a performance of the ages in both the Sweet Sixteen and elite eight how'd you? Did you know that he's from Houston, Texas, and he played a U basketball with deer and FOX, man. But you learn these stories you learn about these players because of the platform that their teams are put on to play in the NCAA tournament. And why do you watch the tournament? College basketball has been going on the whole year hasn't just started. It started in November. Because the bracket. Because for one month out of the year we care because we want to win our bracket. And then we're used to Duke and Kentucky and Carolina, which if you're a fan of those schools you root for and if you're not you hope that they lose as long as they're not in your back. Zayn Williamson actually embodies that could he have gone to the NBA out of high school. Yeah. Yeah. What do you have been a lottery pick maybe last year this time that the McDonald's all American game? And a friend of mine is a former college head coach turn NBA scout. And he said we walked out of the gym after watching the McDonald's practice, and we thought I don't know. He's kind of overweight all he does is dunk. Don't think he can shoot. He likes to pass. It seems like a great kid and a good teammate. But it doesn't play hard all the time. Now, what's the image of him plays heart? Great teammate improving shooter trimmed up his body. He is without any question. Going to be the number one overall pick even if John Mirant, for example, or RJ Barrett may be better and more refined prospects, and or maybe just they're the type of players that we see starring in the NBA handling the ball. Every time down the court like the way the NBA game is played for the most part, whether it's Janas or James harden is Russell Westbrook. One guy dominating the basketball making plays from self or for others. That's John Marin, that's RJ Barrett. That's not as much Zion. And I think science going to be great because his role is going to be different. But it's one that's Baillieu d-. But his stock has skyrocketed joy share a story with this earlier from Sunday for Carro and look of care was an advocate for paying players. He always has been and he's been he's been a shoe executive at three different places that a part of the grass roots culture and Sunday's done a ton for me and my family during my lifetime. But I agree with sunny, and he knows the business that the kids going to get a ton of money, but he's not going to get a ton of if you want to get a ton of money to come straight into high school. He just wouldn't the reason that they go to college is I n Williamson and by that I don't mean to be like Zion. Williamson it's because of what college afford you. It gives you a stamp. That's going to allow you to get a better first job. It's the same reason that that Hollywood millionaires are hundreds of thousands of dollars to get their kids into and into gale and all these schools because they know the hardest thing to do is just to get into be part of that culture and in basketball to be a part of Duke or Kentucky or Carolina like that's that's gold because every game you play is on TV, the coaching is better the preparation is better. And when you perform well, or even when you're shoe falls off, it makes national news. They have all been able throughout the entire one and done. Segment of the sport for the last fifteen years. They've all been able to go straight to the pros like well, you only make now there you can make six figures in the G league. Now, you only make thirty five thousand hold on if your name image, and like this is worth a bunch of money. You could have had you could have had a shoe deal in the G league. Do you know why you don't have a shoe deal in the G league? Because nobody does you are because you don't have the promotion of college basketball on TV and the NCAA tournament or late in the regular season. You just don't. I'm not saying that the kid anxiety is not more valuable even than his scholarship. I think he I think scholarship is actually way more valuable than we're giving me a credit. Just getting into Duke forget about the seventy thousand dollars post tax year. His parents would have to pay you know, if he wanted to get forget about all that like he gets for the rest of his life. If God forbid something happens, he can go back to Duke and get a degree and and crush the rest of his life. Like, so many of the Duke is to. But even if he is the one exception whose name image likeness far exceeds that value, the hundreds of thousands of dollars of value. I would put into just getting into school the hundreds of thousands of dollars to putting him through school the training. You get there. Forget about that. He's one in four thousand five thousand visual and players. Ask yourself this. Do you ever heard of job Marin have you ever heard of Carson Edwards? Have you ever heard of a jerk? Culliver Bure seen him play before. Of course, you had please Texas Tech unless you're a big twelve guy. Like, I am. He hadn't seen Texas Tech play. Maybe you watch them play Duke girl is here. And you're like looks good vine. Zayn Williamson signs the biggest shoe deal of any player ever out of college. You know, yes to think Nike for having a shoe that fell off of his foot when he planted against North Carolina. It was the biggest game of the year. There was nothing else on it was on national TV it was against North Carolina. The second we stopped underselling. It's North Carolina. It's Duke it's the NCAA tournament Kentucky. And that's why people watch and the bracket the second. We start to realize that it's a great platform, and they all win and Zion has won by playing and competing and playing well, then even the guys that didn't play that. Well, still kind of get a pass. I like RJ bear that wasn't his best game. He had seven turnovers he shot a high volume whatnot high volume makes he missed what would have been a game tying free throw. The punishment for having what some people would consider a disappointing season for our Jaber would be he went from being without any question. The number one overall pick in the draft to the third pick in the draft. The whole thing works. Including if you stay in college, we've made it. So that if a guy stays somehow there's something wrong with them PJ Washington stayed in college now Kentucky didn't win a national title won't play in the final four, but he made himself into the best player in the SEC. He dramatically improved people ask all the time. Like, why can't you win with one and done because you're going to get better the older, you get that's the way it works because he have more experience the more. You do something. I mean, I hope they have burned the tapes. But if you go back, and you listen to the first time for the first time, I host a radio show. First time I ever sat in for Colin. I'm sure it was horrendous. Whether it was this place or the other place, the more you do it. The better you get the more comfortable, you get more comfortable to get the better you're going to perform. So the reason that only two one and done teams have have won a national championship. I mean. Could it be more obvious than older players more experienced players? Sure. More connected players as well. The system has worked players benefit from the system and the greatest percentage of guys benefit in the rest of their life. And even the basketball players. They haven't been hurt by. So whatever NBA people are trying to tell you, whatever fans are trying to tell you, whatever social media is trying to tell you. The fact is Steve Kerr who is a former college player played in the NBA coaches in the NBA was GM in the NBA and cover the NBA comeback seven years ago, you Google search it he said, look, they should be staying two years. We're going to work the opposite way. We're gonna have kids coming straight at a high school is going to work the opposite way, we have more more kids playing in the NBA, which does it hurt them. No. But doesn't help the sport. The sport is better when you have a bridge between high school and the pros, and you have men that whether you agree with every one of their training methods at all we're all of their offense or all of their defense. The fact is that for their entire professional careers. The only people that they've coaching their lifetime are eighteen to twenty two year olds that makes them experts at it. So they understand how to develop people have developed relationships how developed teams and how developed basketball players, and we're taking that out. Look the G league has better players than college basketball. It's not close. Go look at the roster's. They're loaded with guys like man, whatever happened to that's where they are. But you don't watch the G league. Do you have you ever seen a G league game? And if you have you watched for five minutes, I can't take it. I can't do it why? Because you don't associate with the name on the front of the jersey, they're not playing for anything in particular. And they're not playing for anybody who you actually know even if eventually those coaches are going to be very good, NBA coaches, and those G league players are going to be very good NBA players why we're trying to rid ourselves with system that clearly and obviously works and continues to perform for players in either avenue of being a professional basketball player or just being a professional life. I don't understand it. Yes. Schools make money off their athletes. They make money off their students as well. And they make money off of their former students in the film. Of donations the second they walk out the door. Coming up next did Jon Gruden win. The Khalil Mack trade will ask TJ who outta he joins us upcoming decks. One more heard the herd. Streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio app. Search her to listen live or on demand. Whenever you like you might not be able to new comedy your tax refund. But you can't make your car feel like it's brand new all it needs a great paint job coming to make oh today. It's your dream paint job during their tax season sales event. He is a former pro bowler. He played eleven season the NFL, and he's got one of the great personal stories of all time to make it to the league. He's TJ who's been zodda joins us here in the hurdle. And which Taylor. I'm Doug Gottlieb TJ. I want to start with the patriots. The over unders came out for the National Football League. Right. That's the idea think team's gonna win more or less than this and the team with the highest over under eleven wins is the New England Patriots fan. Actor in that. Yes, they just won the SuperBowl. But they didn't have home field advantage throughout. And they they lost their starting left tackle gronk retired. And they lost Trey flowers as well. And Tom Brady is a year. Older. Am I wrong to think and they lost not only a defensive coordinator? They actually lost to Flora's is gone. And then Greg Shahu suddenly up and left the team after a couple of months on the job. Am I wrong to think we're buying it into England? We have no idea what they're gonna throw out there every year. Right. As long for me is long as number twelve is under center. It doesn't matter gronk was hit or miss throughout the season showed up in the playoffs. But for me is is long as they have Tom Brady on that team. They always have a chance that that for me that over under is about right. I think the problem with that to me is we're forgetting that Tom Brady was not great was maybe not even good at the end of last season. And he's not alone. You know, you look at the chargers and Philip rivers late in the season. He had some arms. Strength issues. Drew Brees even playing in a dome he had some arm strengthening the older quarterbacks really struggled coming down the stretch last month today, they have a ton of draft picks. They're they're going to find guys draft that one will help them that will contribute in. They always find a way until the season starts. They're going to have to show me like they did last year where they didn't look like there are playing well. And so I picked against them. They're going to have to show me that before before I pick against them. Tom Brady threw for thirty one hundred yards last year. Right. Like, it was not my thing is like it's not great for Brady for. Sure. No. And in this NFL, it's not. And then you look at his production at the end of the season. Remember his last, you know, he struggled against Pittsburgh. He struggled against buffalo. He's he he did have he had four touchdown passes against the jets when he made plays when he had to go back to the Kansas City game Throwdown, the sideline of gronk would Eric berry covering great throw. No, anything can get surrounds a grunk down the scene. Great throw. So he made plays when needed, but he also through to and what would have been. Three interceptions of d four didn't lineups offsides. Like we do. Like, we only remember the end of the movie, we don't remember any of the meat of it. And the meat of it is Brady is not the same Brady. The meat of it was they won in. So he touches the ball every snap in. So you can't they've shown earned enough respect to where if you say they're gonna win thirteen games. Okay. They gotta prove to me that they can't. This reminds me we'll get to LeBron second. This reminds me of the Bronx that had the forty eight and a half was their win total. We'll see how that worked out. See how that worked out in Vegas? I wanna ask you about the Khalil Mack trade when it happened when it happened. I was the only guy seemingly saying I love it for the raiders, they it wasn't just trading way. Clue MAC was he wanted a huge deal, and they didn't get one. They got two first round picks that everyone said you'll never get to fresh from pigs for defensive player never going to happen. Then it gets two first round picks and people continue to make fun of Jon Gruden like he's a complete idiot. He knew he didn't have a good team. And you got three first round picks for two players who are good, but two players who wanted to get paid. And he wasn't willing to pay them. What what the going rate was actually above going right for Cleal MAC? Now, the Sloan analytics conference came out and gave one award for the transaction of the year, and it was to him and Gruden finally talked about the trade. And he said, here's here's a quote. If if we did come up with the money to make the MAC contract happened less year. We wouldn't have had any of these men were talking about right now, we wouldn't have had those three first round picks. We're talking about like he goes to look at the guys. So in hindsight, and we don't know who they're going to draft to Jon Gruden win that trade. Oh, yeah. When when you can get and Sony. Oh, Brown and Brown. Lamarcus Joyner Burford, taro Williams, of course, you want it. I would I would prefer those players over. Just Khalil Mack me personally. And you add in the first round picks. But he could've still signed Khalil Mack in added one or two of those players had they chosen to do. So didn't have any money. There's ninety million. There's not always money is there is you you can get around his salary cap. That's an excuse that the front office people. We don't have enough money. Oh, everybody's operating operating under the same set of rules. You have enough money is just a matter of do you want to spend it on this guy in ages. Choose not to do it. That's. What goes on the majority of the time? But I will say the first round picks they got to for Khalil Mack all these guys and free agents. Yes, it's not even close at the raiders one is not not close. Ben rothlisberger. It and joy joy reported this as part of the news, it appears that he's going to cancel his weekly radio show radio appearance. Good mover Badmann. I believe that's a smart move on his behalf it he's not if he's not able to filter himself if he can't do that to himself. Then it it's a smart move. I had a radio show in Cincinnati for four or five years. Did it once a week in obviously, I'm not being acts of questions that bans being axed? But you just have to say a bunch of things without saying anything not throw anybody under the bus. So if he can't do that himself. I think it's very smart. Why did he's guys do it? Like what what is the why like he makes a ton of money? Right. You don't make a ton of money doing the week radio a free car, you even if you're a car. They'll pay you X amount right with all year. What what is what is the wind in doing? It. Just connect with the fans and the best. That's all I can think of you connect with the fans, but there's people within the organization and will come to you and act you to do it. You don't just say, oh, I'm gonna do to radio show you go to the head coach you go to people upstairs. And you say, what do you guys think about this? You know, give you the go ahead to do it. Last thing. You're in your Nella guy. We're gonna call it bar sto close enough. Right. I'm kidding. You're in LA guy. I don't know. Do you guys? Didn't get the paper is an honest question. Joy. Do you get the newspaper? No, the paper. Now, come home, and nobody gets to pay honest. I'm just asking for. Yes. Not now I used that was my thing with my dad like this. How I grew up is sports fan. I used to get the about getting the paper now, which son. No, I'd probably should. No. I mean, he he gets up and he watches Fox Sports one. He's like why are they still? Well, not like. I still read. No, I didn't see you don't I think people read more now than they ever used to you just find it it only online. I'm just asking. If you got what was the last time, you got a newspaper. I don't know. I mean, I've never subscribed to the newspaper. But like, I I'm sure I bought a newspaper back when the internet was okay. Let you never say strived ever. Now if you ever subscribed to paper. No I have before. I think it's interesting because I didn't see this. But some of our staff did and I saw it dayquil who elps book this show. I saw he tweeted this yesterday. So in the Sunday paper in the LA times they have pull out section, and they have the calendar section. And it was LeBron James, and it's cool picture. It's a really cool picture, but it's the Brian James and it's talking about all of his his production company but in his glasses. It says Hollywood, right? And this is yesterday, which is the day that they? Announced they're shutting down the brawn James for the rest of the year. And of course, this is coming off of Colin coward. Who is the ardent defender of all things LeBron James Sedley? I believe it was last Thursday going like, I'm kinda dumb with LeBron. He's gone Hollywood. And now there's actually a photo of him with Hollywood put on his glasses. How would you characterize the brawn James first season in the city you call home? Wouldn't very good for the Lakers expectations were high. I was one that we go into the playoffs this year. And it just didn't happen. You did drop. A we by the way, I want to put it down Malaysia fan all the way through and guy ain't gonna call him a league is kind of a week guy. Yeah. I just don't like Donald love, the we stuff. It's a habit. You can't help it. I've been ruined for the Lakers when we were winning sedillo three Nick Van next my favorite team. That's my favorite team. It was it was the non magic they own. They up two games to none on the Phoenix Suns. And Nick Van Exel was nasty was killed on you. I've been Allegra fan my whole life. You wanna prove your Laker fan onto me sedan three. Do you like to go, right or left to shoot come on? Remember that? He's a righty. I'm gonna say left. He always went left sheer always have Egypt goes left. It was in you know, shot. Okay. Anyway. So who do you put the blame on it has the following lumber on your best friend on the team when things go well when you beat Golden State in the finals with career? Are we hitting the shot who I thought should have gotten MVP, but they give it to LeBron because you're the best player. That's okay. But when things go bad you have to take the majority of the blame injuries. Now, they don't have the amount of injuries that they have I believe they're in the playoffs, but they had them. And so you have to put the blame on the Brown. Well, my my thing is and enjoy kind of disagrees that this. There's a story about how they had a players only meeting and they talked him, but his body language and for like one game. He had goodbye language, putting his arm around guys. But then he kind of went back to his baddie bought by language, and that story ended of itself is a micro on the macro, which is whether it's throwing the ball off the backboard or looking disengage when Luke's talking or not having bad bide language or sometimes just kind of being out there defensively and kind of being lost or the commentary like it's all little factor of look, I'm not saying that it's super easy and not incredibly frustrating. You don't feel like you're with a coach who you vibe with or players that you fit with. But. That doesn't win. You hit adversity like it displays exactly the type of dude you are. And instead of being the, hey, we're gonna be fine. I got this the commentary the the the bide language it was all negative and the team went south because there s frustration like people got understand. He's a human being when things don't go as planned. He's allowed to be frustrated in if his body language shows it what's wrong with that. That's frustration. That's a competitor. That's upset that things aren't going away. He hopes or that he wants MS just frustration do Europe professional athlete, if my body language affects you something's wrong, which you my body language should affect me. Not you. But that's not the that's not the way it works in basketball. That's not the way it works in. Why is it just about it should be any is it isn't in football quarterback comes over and a quarterback is sitting by himself and dissing not listen to the coaches, and is totally disengaged with with what's going on that affects what it's it's a completely football and basketball. They're completely different said, it's four what you have to communicate. And what I'm saying is a quarterback's not going to sit by himself because he has to communicate with the coach about what the defense is doing what we're gonna do the next drive in basketball. Give the ball to your best player. Go make some happening. Oh, it's that. No. You have to communicate where you're going to be what you're doing the exact same practice. No. It's in games to tell players what they need to do in an NBA game. In defense. You're going to lose you should already have exaggerating TJ TJ. I love you k-. You know, we're friends off microphone, but you could not be more wrong for this. Yes, you have rules. You have to make it Justice in terms of how we garden ball screens. How are you? Garden different actions. Where are you going to be when I do this when I zig there's engagement when you're the best player on the team when you're the best player on earth, by many people's estimation. Then guess your body language does matter the idea of my language shouldn't affect you. That isn't the way it works in basketball. I'm which is not it's not everything. But it's a huge portion of leadership. And when the Brian looks like he's frustrated he's down. He's disconnected. Of course, the rest of the young players are going to follow his lead. That's what happens in basketball. That's what happens in sports. Now is this like I said this frustration if he's doing this every game. It's a problem. I'm sure it's not every game. If it's here, and there, I don't see it as a big deal. But if it's constant, of course, is a big deal because these young players who Adelaide you they look up to you. Right. And so they see this. And I say, oh, man, this guy that I look up to doing this. Yeah. Now, it's every moon. It's not a big deal. But if it's all the time, it is he's TJ Cushman zodda. He'd he is a we guy. But but I'm a we in team team team TJ teacher. Great stuff to get to joy Taylor with the news. No. This is the headline news guy story already. She said she obnoxious fantasy sports fan. Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm kind of a guy to talk about the Steelers that way, you say we often when the healers when the Steelers two years ago when it should have been touchdown catch rules. Did you go like we got screwed that play or do you? I don't know about us. Exactly that for Euler. But I felt it the same. When you grow up a fan of team. It's almost a habit, right? It is don't don't look too much. All right. So Steve Nash sticking up for his godson after his game against Michigan state RJ Barrett. Went seven for seventeen from the floor with seven turnovers, and obviously that Mr. free throw line pleasant ten seconds left. Nash took to Twitter to talk about Barrett and said RJ Barrett. Yes is my godson. He's a next level playmaker. At his age eighteen and size makes every read and pass. This is one skill that is easier many respects to the rules of the NBA level. So damn valuable blown away at the reads and delivers he makes repetitively I think everyone's kind of overreacting to RJ barris game. I mean, he averaged twenty two point six points this year, seven point, six rebounds and four point three assists per game. I know this is what we do. We just react to what just happened seven turnovers. It's not not the game. You want to have in that moment. But I mean, we've been talking about RJ Barrett and timeline all year Zion. Obviously is going to be the number one overall pick. If for nothing else puts dominance, who's his star capability, and we were talking about his. Potential sneaker deal at one hundred billion dollars Zion is going to go number one overall. But I I really liked bear all year. And I really think that once he gets to the NBA level. We talked about it earlier this facings going to be totally different because the two point nine role. They're not able to sit back in the paint doesn't have great three point shooters. So the spacing is going to be completely different Brooke. He's going to be with NBA level coaches who are going to and development plans and eating is bodies. No develop. You know, look at games differently. He's going to have a different development plan. And he he's going to develop a lot. He has he has through his best. Well, resume already I feel like a direct translation to the NBA. I think so too. I think the question for for our Jay bird is going to be he he's never not been the best guy and had the ball in his hands to make the decisions and in the NBA. You gotta be really really good to do that. And is he that level of good? Well, I don't think he's gonna come into the league that well, but. Quickly. Look, I agree with the premise. You're saying the spacing is different. And his skill set is set up more for program for college game. And and look I think he's selfish. I do I know he can pass, but he chose not to a bunch some of it because they weren't great shooters. But even before they had established themselves not being great shooters. He showed himself to have a selfish truth that said, you don't average thirty a game the NBA unless you're a little bit selfish. Okay. Let's just got to be honest. Right. You got he's not going to be asked to do that right away? Either. No. That's my question is how does he fit in with any? Secondary or tertiary role whereas Zion. I think immediately because he's he's not a primary ball handler. I think he'll fit in a little bit better pearly on with a distributor right now. Look RJ if he's given a team like like trae Young's, given where you play huge volume of possessions. And you just give given the ball and you play thirty five he'll develop quickly who put up big numbers. Does it help you win? Kenny make a higher percentage of shots. Become a better shooter. He's he's not. He's not a crazy. Great athlete, but he is really hard because he's so long angular like, I generally agree with the premise. He'll be a better NBA player than he was college player. He's a very good college player. But some of the selfishness some of the decision making and the lack of and that's your jump shots a little mechanical do give me pause as to whether or not he'll be a star in the NBA. That's with experience also. Yeah. Ninety three point shot his hard. Yeah. Well, I mean, look like Katie came into was a volume shooter at the beginning of his career. He averaged twenty eight percents in the three point line to beginning of his career. Average more turnovers insists revere. So it's all about development. So LeBron will sit out the rest of the season. We just discussed that apparently wasn't his choice. He'd been getting regular rests from layers on LeBron sitting there going like, no, no I want to play. Lebron wants to play. I do I do believe that he wants to play. I think that it's at the point. We'll basically Magic Johnson said after consulting with thirteen doctors and medical staff we decided to hold the bond out of games of the season decision will allow is going to heal and especially the future success of both abroad and the Lakers now, obviously the draft pick thing could be thrown out there as theory, but it's not gonna affect the percentage too much of them getting a higher traffic. It's also so that he can rest which to me is just like, okay. You mismanaged this injury. If if he's been playing all this time, and it's really an injury that you need to sit him for the last five games of the season. Then clearly mismanage the injury. I mean, right like. That look the stories of shutting LeBron down have been out there since they started to get close to being out of the playoffs. You had guys. That are connected why? Because obviously have because he has Brown. Because the games don't matter. Tim. I don't know about that. This has been a really rough season for LeBron for his dang on his resume. I don't think that. He's gonna wait her. He's hurt hurt screaming, and I'm not disputing that the growing doesn't hurt. But like look don't leak out story to Christopher sard saying, hey, you know, if this is the playoffs he could be playing the players that you'll be playing do you think you have to decide what it is? And if it isn't injury. Then clearly it was a bigger injury. Then everyone thought it was which are already felt like a big injury. Because it's Ron and he's never heard. But you can't say could be planning. It was the playoffs. He kind of he probably would you'd probably push through it. But I'm saying that's the point. You should have sent him down for the rest of the season earlier, then well, they they don't want to get caught. I mean, there are the NBA is already find them for tampering right now. They don't wanna find them for sitting sitting at healthy player at the end the season. Clearly, not healthy. I I don't believe that LeBron. I think he wants to play. I don't think he wants any part of this team. I think he's good. All right. So we got the guy out of the way, I'm the annoying fantasy football guy. And Tom Brady is the annoying April. Fool's day joke guys that earlier you don't have a big fan of April Fool's day jokes. Tom Brady is a fish. On Twitter today. And his first tweets was I'm retiring in my spare time I will be tweeting. And then he followed up with was this about Joe. So he gets it. It's April Fool's, make fun, April Fools. I'm retiring, you've got it. You got to do like that tweet. And then wait. You can't do a tweet. And then say, April Fools in the same tweet. That's he's not even good at this. I mean, I can't tell if he's being cheeky from the beginning. I like it. He actually could have really got everybody. But then I guess he doesn't want that backlash because he could have written a really it was thirty nine minutes later. He said was this. But I mean, that's not how he's retiring and took that seriously from the beginning, not not good. This is Tom Brady's not good at this. This this video montage of all moments like it's just going to be a big deal. Did I what are you working when I changed my vote on who's the greatest quarterback ever? I'm not sure. Did you change it to Tom Brady? So you do think Tom raise the issue. Well, I've always thought that Aaron Rodgers the better quarterback because he does everything you're supposed to a quarterback. Oh, and then you realize that we all play for championships. Yes. Right. Yeah. And then I said, I've just I don't know how he does it. But he does it and he's done enough time. So I'm like. I I I give up because there's something about skills. Aaron Rodgers you talk about Dan Marino talking about Joe Montana. There's John Elway is obviously a plethora of incredible quarterbacks over the years. But at one point or another the amount of championship you win, and the consistency of winning that you do has to matter. Let's show Taylor with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by heard lie. Right. That's why change my vote. Coming up right now. There are some things happening in sports that are so crazy you'd think there in April Fools joke. But they're actually one hundred percent real. We will prove it to you. That's next. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is the hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific on Fox Sports radio f s one and the iheartradio app. Em drive is the supplement. I use every day you should consider it to if you want to feel stronger have more energy and drive now is the time to start taking him. Dr. Learn more at visit 'em drive for men dot com. Refined your prime within Dr joy Taylor. I'm Doug Gottlieb. Happy April first, happy, April Fool's, which leads us to the best for last. It's almost the end of the show. But that doesn't mean we're phone and it in no we grind to the very last segment. It's time for best for last. I April Fool's day. And so if you're on social media, there's lots of fake stories out there. And what I thought we would do would be if you if you're asleep for the last year, and I propose these as stories would you think they were an April Fools joke. You'd you'd actually think we're one hundred percent kidding. If it was April first last year. So let's get to it. I got a good list here of of seven stories. I guarantee that if you think about it. You would not believe you ready number one. Lebron James won't make the playoffs. Think about it last year this time he had seven consecutive finals streets, then he headed eighth. He had missed the playoffs since two thousand five thousand five it's two thousand nineteen. Now he hasn't had a losing season since his rookie year. If you told somebody even four months ago. Hey, lebrons. I can make the playoffs regardless of the team. You would think they were idiot for a liar. They are neither. Here's one. The clippers are the best basketball organization in Los Angeles, college or pro college or pro UCLA's coaching jobs been open for three months has not been filled USC and UCLA finished seventh and eighth in the Pac twelve this year, which was down the Lakers missed the playoffs for the sixth consecutive year. Most people believe they'll have a new head coach and mostly new players next year. You want the clippers are forty seven and thirty one curly a sixth seat they made play the playoffs seven of the last eight years and most people think they're getting quieter. But if you would've told anybody like, look, I grew up in Los Angeles, we used to have scavenger hunts where people say like, all right? You got to go find anything clippers and bring it back and no one would win because it wasn't possible. And now it's impossible to not admit that what used to be at April Fools joke is now a reality. The clippers are in fact, the best fastball does Asian in Los Angeles. There's one Auburn is a better shot at winning a basketball national titles, then football. I final four in their schools history, by the way, Bruce parole, one division, two national championship took UW Milwaukee Sweet Sixteen Tennessee villi date. And now Auburn, that's he has a hall of fame resume. Meanwhile, the football team finished fifth in the SEC west not the SEC the SEC west three and five eight and five overall. Meanwhile, Auburn all they've done to get there is beat Kansas Carolina Kentucky in consecutive games first team to do. So since. Miles Simon's nineteen Ninety-seven national champions, Arizona wildcat team. It feels like an April Fools joke. All right. How about this one? A big twelve team could win a national championship based on their defense. Texas Tech held Michigan to sixteen points in the first half. And it felt like six the holding teams to fifty nine point two points per game. Third best in the in college basketball, and they beat Gonzaga who had been averaging eight point eight points per game. Big twelve stone for offense and football. And Chris crispier defense has got them to the final four. Here's one. Hey, college basketball coach was under fire last week for yelling at his player that actually happened. He was yelling at Aaron Henry when they played Bradley two weeks ago. Now, he's making his eighth trip to the final four. Like, ask yourself a college basketball coach yelling at a player over the last twenty years, and it became a national controversy. The felt like an April Fools joke. Our last two. Oop. You go back two years ago. And if I would've told you Tiger Woods going to win another major, you would've said that's neighbor full show. He lost the quarters of the world golf championship in matchplay, but he beat Rory head to head had some amazing shots. He's the third favorite to win the masters the second favorite to win the US open at pebble. Where of course, he's lapped the field before he's the second favourite to win the British behind Rory. Who of course, he just beat matchplay. He's going to win a major remember even after the car accident and Ellen when we think golf club on him. He's still finished fourth at Augusta. That place is built for his game. And he could play a blindfolded the two years ago. You would have thought that's an April Fools joke. And here's the last one the Cleveland Browns are favorites to win the AFC north, according to CG technology Cleveland's predicted nine wins. Pittsburgh also nine wins. Baltimore eight and a half wins. Browns. Haven't won the division since nineteen eighty nine nine hundred eighty nine last time the Browns one more than seven games two thousand seven. I mean, I get it Baker Mayfield. Even now with a rookie head coach who was a run game coordinator last year. It's still seems preposterous. A look at that talent. Look at the division look at how they finished and Vegas says take the Browns. All these would have been that's the best place. What's the what's the most surprising? You LeBron Cleveland's actually pretty close. It's close with Cleveland in the bron- for opposite reasons. Yeah. Who's going to be our punchline of Cleveland becomes really good. Now. I'm sure some of them will we'll be up their New York. Giants are making a push push their made a push Miami push to kind of been that way. But the other they're doubling down on that too. Good weather. A buffalo did make the playoffs last year. But that sounds like the exception as opposed to the rule. There's a reason that they were jumping off of RV's onto tables the bills mafia lighting themselves on fire because that was more entertaining than the product. I'm back tomorrow with joy Taylor crisper shadow. Join us met Barnes will join us and new FOX college football and list. Reggie Bush will join us. That's all tomorrow. I'm doug. Golly. This is the hurt. Hey, everybody. This is Chuck from the movie crush podcast, and I wanted to alert everyone to a very special episode. I was able to get Mr. Christopher Walken believe. It or not into the studio to talk about the movie footloose. Here's a little taste of what you can expect. And then, you know, I think you're talking about that great farmhouse dance sequence when he's by himself in the warehouse. It's one of the most absurd things I've ever seen enjoyable as hell as a dancer, you know, hopefully at hot, but. Yeah, this kid and he's angry. You know, he's very angry. He's been pushed I wrote down. I took notes I wrote down whole towns against them. And you took notes for this. 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