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"torre" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show
"AC is up next. Good evening, mister pine bob. Happy holidays. Thank you so much for coming my call. Thank you. Absolutely. Well, it was a nice call by a 7 year old. She made a better call than Jim from talk to has ever done in his lifetime. The same as legend. But let's talk about Alabama crimson tide. I thought they were supposed to be a revenge tour. So I guess they're going to have their sugar daddy bowl. How did they lose two games? I guess they couldn't hack it. What about texting and aggies? I think they're supposed to go 11 and one. They laid an egg. Now they're going 5 and 7. So this year, fine bomb. You should get on top of that table. I was busting some moves and I was like, can you please shake your hips like chicken bake baby? Can you please do that? Let's fill up with the revenge tour. The tour is over the end of the day to the top 14. They forgot the Clinton tide that's Chris and Todd, I flushed them down in my toilet successfully started to hold me. Okay, we'll have a soft transition here from AC to Nick Della Torre from on three talking about the big game tomorrow. Between Oregon state and Florida in the SRS distribution ball, whatever that means. Nick, thank you. Well, thank you for that leading. What is that game? What does that mean? SRS distribution. Who are they? I don't know, but in the age of NIL, maybe we're just distributing money. I don't know, or distributing something. Well, thanks for jumping on here. And this is one of those games that I have to admit, just snuck up on me because you expect Florida to be playing a little closer to New Year's Day on New Year's Day. What's been the drum beat for billion APUs team after pretty bad ending to say the least getting ready for this game? Yeah, I think heading into that Vanderbilt game, you're probably feeling really good. Hard to get rid of the feeling and the stench of losing to Vanderbilt. And then you lose the floor of state. So before I lost all the rivals this year, then you have a bunch of departures via the NFL Draft. And the transfer portal is as everyone is seeing across the country with the transfer portal. So I think there's a lot of what team is this, like the first scene in major league, and I won't say the line because I think it might get you kicked off the air, but a lot of who are these guys who's going to show up. It'll be interesting to see how Jack Miller does, a really highly tattered recruit and of high school, transferred from Ohio State. Lost the job to anti interesting before this season and then was injured and missed most of the season. This will be his first collegiate start in his first game reps. So how does he handle in order to save defense that's really tough? Yeah, I mean, Anthony Richardson opted out so did Torrance and a couple of other key players, we're seeing various things at different schools, not a surprise about Antony Richardson. He's got bigger fish to fry, but what is the billionaire been saying leading up to this? I know recruiting is going on. This is a very distracting time of the year to play a ball game. Yeah, I think the big loss here is that Florida doesn't get a chance to hold official visits. The weekend before, early signing day, which is really going to become, I think, signing day. I think that we're seeing that kind of switch. So they tried to do that last week. But it's still an opportunity to hear the ball game. And I think the biggest thing is, one, you get to go to Las Vegas and for anyone that's 21 on the team, I'm sure they're enjoying that. Also, you get to be home for Christmas. Some of these bowl games, you're going to spend Christmas in a hotel room. Away from your family. So I think there's some good aspects to it in terms of building your program. It definitely made recruiting a little bit tougher, but fordham needed the opportunity to get a lot of their younger players. This is the team that's going to look completely different. You're going to be talking about close to 40% of the scholarship players that probably won't be on the roster next year. So what do you have? This is the last ten or so practices for us to be able to see where we have in our freshman class and our sophomore class. Where do we need to fill roles or fill holes in the transfer portal? So I think that's really been the biggest thing for Florida as a staff and as a team and also guys figuring out, okay, do I have an opportunity here or do I need to find somewhere else to go? Let's talk about recruiting since it's around the corner and I've seen Florida ranked high. Maybe a little bit higher than the past, but still not at the top where some think it needs to be to change the landscape there. What are you hearing in relation to the next Wednesday? Well, Florida's got a really strong class. We have them ranked 8th on three, but when you're in the SEC, if you ranked 8th in the country, you might be ranked 5th in the conference. So you're going to have to start winning some of those battles against Georgia and Texas a and M and Alabama for sure. Florida and Miami, Mario Cristobal has been on a tear. Getting a flip from Jaden Rashad from Miami to Florida was huge for billionaire. Florida absolutely needed a quarterback in this class. They've already secured their quarterback for next class. So lord is going to have most of their signing class as early enrollees. I think up to 16 of their guys will be enrolled in participating in spring practice. So that's another really big note for this class. It might not be the number one class in the country, but you're going to have most of your signing class already on campus well before the 2023 season or fall camp. Nick, you mentioned losing to all the rivals. That's not a good way to have your first season as so many, so many expectations were about building April and you know the narrative is old by now who got the best deal LSU who passed on Napier or Florida who went after him, what is the narrative on building api as this season comes to an end? Paul, I'm sure you're familiar with Florida fans, so it depends on what the final score was that Saturday. And commit went where. It's been up and down. It's been a tough year for Florida. You started on such a high beating Utah and then you lose to Kentucky, barely beat USF and lose the Tennessee and it feels like you lost three in a row with that UCF game mixed in there. And then really just weren't able to string together enough wins and obviously you finished 6 and 6. I think it was the first time Lourdes lost to all their rivals since 1979. That was the year Charlie pell went zero ten and one. So it was just tough to get momentum and keep the fan base engaged and enthusiastic and happy throughout the year. But I think you're seeing billing April put his thumbprint in lay down a foundation and sometimes when you're tearing down a house, it's going to get uglier before it gets pretty. So I think most of the fan base is still behind billing Napier, they trust his discipline, his organizational structure throughout the program, which lacked I think with the last staff. And I think there's going to be bumps and bruises along the way, but I think most fans are happy with the direction of the program. Ball games, regardless of when they're played, can have impacts. A loss gives people a sour taste, a win, and maybe we get carried away. So I ask you this, I'm curious about the game, the Oregon state had a pretty good season, Florida has a group of players, some familiar, most not, what's at stake tomorrow, other than the obvious a win or a loss. I don't know that that much is at stake. As with so many ball games and Florida, last year might have been a bigger what's at stake playing in the gas grill bowl against UCF, a team that and team and a fan base that is almost like a little brother kind of always punching up in Florida to get a win over Florida was massive for UCF. I don't know that Oregon state would affect Florida's fans as much as last year. To get a win for Florida though, I think it would show that the team bought in and whether it was the guys that weren't named starters. I got beat out for jobs that didn't play as much and had their opportunity and took advantage of it. That ended up winning the game before.
"torre" Discussed on Longform Podcast
"Of what's going to happen to the final thing, which they're very, very used to. It happens all the time. The audio people are very, very uncomfortable being the subject of an interview when literally all they do all day. Is ask people very personal questions. That's right. Yeah, I feel that. I feel that in me now, actually. Yeah. Well, let me ask you some more personal questions. I actually have one very potentially slightly uncomfortable personal question that I have been wanting to ask because I heard you say this thing in an interview. And it stuck with me and I wanted to ask you about it, which is you said I don't know what my real voice is anymore. I think I say tongue in cheek, but also definitely with this river of sincerity. Just like coursing through it. I think that's all the time. Want to listen to myself. And I'm like, am I too? Enthusiastic right now? I just said before to you that I'm enthusiastic about everything. That's insane. What insane thing? Every episode I do I'm enthusiastic and energetic. How much am I amping that up? And to what extent am I even now unaware that that's even happening? Like consciously or habitually. I consider myself and this is not something I'm prideful of, but a little bit of a mimic. And I say that because when I talked about like, what's my taste in anything? Well, it's like I figured out, oh, I like this. How can I be more like the people whose careers I've kind of modeled myself after in varying ways? How can I write like this person? I once did a story in a creative writing seminar in college that was literally structurally like a copy of a Gary Smith story, in which I wrote max in the second person. You are blank. You are. That's how I sort of found something approximating what I could consider a comfort zone. But I think that's part of my whole thing of like, what is my real voice? Well, I'm kind of performing my own idea of what someone who is good at these jobs sounds like. And so do I pride myself on sound like a person with authority who may be more insecure about his take and he lets on. Yeah. And am I operating with full transparency about everything? Absolutely not. And so I want to get to authenticity as is north star, but I don't think I'm there yet, not in the way that I'm fully satisfied by. Do you think it's possible? Is that an actual goal of yours? So I don't think insofar as and I have a very my degree of and I'm going to use the scariest scare quotes air quotes here. Of celebrity that I have is so particular that it's like it's both small enough for me to be totally unbothered by any amount of walking outside sitting on a bench alone eating a sandwich, being unmolested, just like great, perfect, optimal. But it's also showed me that I have enough celebrity where I'm like, I actually don't want to tell everybody everything. To go back to what you asked me before about what is going through being written about feel like. Yeah, no. I'm not going to ever be that person who's like, guess what the inside of this kimono looks like. No. No, no. Even this is even talking to you about this is kind of pushing the envelope in that way. To me. Yeah. I'm feeling uncomfortable. I feel like I've sucked myself into discomfort. I started off very comfortable. And now I'm like, oh no. I think that just means such an event job, man. No, no, no, no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Let's talk about how stressful this has become. No, not at all, not at all. Well, I got a stressful question for you. Okay. And then I really will let you go and this discomfort can end. Which is your contract with ESPN's up next year. Do you have a sense of what the next moves are? I mean, this is kind of connected to the stuff I was pushing on before about premeditation versus taking what doors open. Yeah. So I'll answer your question by first referring to a thing that happened to me in high school. Sorry. I'm like, what a cliche. To understand this, you have to go back to like what a podcast. Yeah, you really are a podcaster now. Before I answer that, let's go back. But I would read the yearbook and I'd find the kids who are graduating. The ones I admired, I look at what they had done on their page. They'd be like, oh, they did this this and this. They did the debate team. They got these academic awards. They did all of that. And I would literally write it down into a notebook saying, in X number of years, I want to do this, this and this to get to where I want to be. Okay. And so not a strategy I would advocate. It seems unhealthy when I say it. But I was so like that. And this career. And I say this authentically. This career is a result of me trying to do that, taking the LSAT, bombing the LSAT, realizing that the thing that was most epitomizing failure in my mind was the thing that wound up opening the door to the phone booth with the money flying around and this minority of celebrity and these journalistic projects that I actually do love and care about. And if not for that, I never would have done any of it. Seriously, no part of me would have done sports media or media in general. I would have been a lawyer. And so what I try to remind myself of when it comes to making these plans now is that stop trying to choreograph where this trajectory is going to go. All I really know is that I want the swings 6 and a half years from now to have been even bigger. I feel like there are things, I don't feel like I've figured out what my real voice is yet, despite people now having a catalog of me attempting to find that, that staggering for better and for worse. But also because I just think there are things out there that I want to do that will test whether I'm as good as I secretly think I am.
"torre" Discussed on Longform Podcast
"The premise for high noon, an hour long extemporaneous discussion between two people, that was also pushing the boundaries of what you can do on TV. That was an ambitious idea, do you think that it worked? I think that it worked in a way that I am so proud of. I would be so naive to argue that it was a success in the ways that it needed to be. I wish that more people saw it. I wish that it grew more. I wish that X, Y, and Z but in terms of the editorial vision of that hour long show live. I went back recently and washed just our first episode. And Tony kornheiser, I keep on bringing him up, but he watched that show. He is so stingy with compliments and is so critical of everything. And called me and just said, oh, you guys should take over PTI. He had that sense after watching one episode. And I kind of agreed. I was like, yeah, I think we got something special here. And then, you know, fast forward and yeah, the way the show changes, I think, makes that, it changes the whole proposition of everything. Does it change the way you think about taking ambitious swings? No. No, no. I think an ambitious swing is kind of the only swing I find truly rewarding. And I say that in terms of what we're trying to do with ESPN daily. What we're even trying to do with debatable in terms of here is this thing that comes out every day, how can we make it different, right? Like I just don't think that my land. This is not even like a grandiose artistic sensibility thing. This is just a like, where do I add value? Like, why would someone want to watch this instead of the million other things? It's because, well, we have some ambition as to how to do this differently. And it's not different for differences sake, but it's like, what would I want to watch and be a part of? And I do pride myself still on that, even if I have like scar tissue that never fully got bandaged up. I have two more questions about honey. And then I'll move on. One of them is the relationship between you and bomani became this thing that was getting reported on. It was like a public thing. You guys were very close friends of the show. I started the sort of premise of the show was like, let's take a friendship that isn't on TV and put it on TV, basically. At least that's how I remember you like, explaining it to me. Yeah. What was it like to have people writing about your relationship with your friend who you were hosting a TV show with? I mean, so much of this happened after the show went away. And so I got to sort of ingest this from a particular remove. I think while doing the show, if it had happened, it would have been very uncomfortable. But in the end, I was like, I get it. Like, how could I person writing about other people's interior monologues and dynamics not be subject to this if people somewhere found it interesting? I get it. It's uncomfortable because I'm also just a person who is going to protect my friend, even if that friendship has changed. Like, I'm just not going to be that guy. I'm going to be the person who wants to, I want to remember this show as something that I remain proud of. The dynamic of a television friendship changing a real-life friendship. I don't know a dynamic on television where that has not happened. I would say that for us, it did happen. But it's not something that has particular drama to it where there's some great untold story. It's actually kind of mundane. It's kind of like, I moved in with a really good friend and this happened to be literally in life. It's like, and that changed us. Yeah. Because of real estate because of ego because of what our sense of what our best selves would be and how we were not being able to be that. And so in the end, we went off and got to be versions of ourselves that I think are closer to what professionally we wanted to be. Even though it wasn't our choice, like the show going away enabled us to go and pursue more personal individualized pursuits. And was there anything about getting written about like that? That made you feel any differently about writing about other people that way? It may be more sensitive to it because it's uncomfortable. And because it's something that, you know, look, did you start unfollowing people? I mean, look, the show, by the way, the show that we made, it's a story of not just me and Bo, but like a whole staff of people. And so there's the whole thing of like, what did I become sensitive to? I also became sensitive to just like truly to our own business. Like, you're a bunch of people who are working with us. And they don't have the same like fallback plans in every case. Like I became sensitive to that. And so the notion of, oh, this is what it feels like to have a loss. Dissected and analyzed and pride into, you know, if I can be just very blunt about something. As a journalist, right? As somebody who interviews people professionally, both of us do. If you were told that I know you literally had your dad on your show in 70 over 70, but if you were being told, hey, hey max, son, I got a call from this reporter. And he wants to sit me down. Like, what do you think I should do? I would tell my dad, do not do that. And so I just have that reinforced in me that there is a double standard here that we employ when it comes to asking for transparency, but then urging opacity. When it comes to stuff that's close to our own heart. I mean, one of the things that's funny, I feel like you're in a different place because of your varied career by medium. But a thing that happens on this show pretty often is that the audio people that I interview are the most uncomfortable with this dynamic because
"torre" Discussed on Longform Podcast
"In the 6 years case. Officiating a wedding of sixers fans at a lottery party in front of like 2000 people in Philadelphia before a 6 year game. And I don't think the Columbia school of journalism would have this as a stop on the timeline of what professional journalists tend to do. And so yeah, I fully leaned in and became a priest of the process. And it's absurd and also something where I'm like, but this is also, this is where sports and news are not the same. Like it'd be weird if I was also Kamala Harris campaign manager. Yeah, that feels different. I guess my question is, you know, in the 6 years that we have talked, your career has evolved and what, from my vantage point, really interesting ways, and I want to talk about the experience of high noon too, because I feel like you and I were also talking about you coming on right before it launched. Then you were like, actually, let's do it. Once it's out. And then it was out in like it was really busy, and you were like, I feel like we're figuring it out. It's figured out and then the time slot got moved, and it got shortened. And then you were like, I don't know, I don't really think it's an interesting place, and then it was over. Yep. And we never got to talk about it. So I want to talk about high noon two. But I want to just push on this idea of running at those stories and planting flags, and how premeditated that is for you. Like, I'm genuinely interested in whether it feels random or planned to you. You know what I mean? I think you pivot once the opportunity presents itself. So I don't go searching for hobby horses or bits, even. That's the most cold and cynical way of seeing these takes as just bits I can return to that are good for the shows that I'm on. I see it as an opportunity here to be the guy on something. And I think there are people to be clear who are far more cunning and successful at becoming the guy who does X or Y or Z for me, I pride myself on that. It's never been inorganic, but believe me when someone is like, you're our guy, will you come marry us? I am jumping at that opportunity. When Jeremy and the insanity thing, right, where I'm like covering him and I have access to his parents. And every tabloid writer in New York is like, as well as national publication, people, as I learned years later, were like, why the fuck is Pablo Torre at SI, the only person covering the biggest story in sports right now, I take pride in, okay, like, oh no, this is clearly a thing that I will be in literally now multiple documentaries about. And I don't see it from the perspective of there is profit at the end of that rainbow. It's just that authority on a subject in a world that is so fragmented. And in which they're only so many stories that resonate, Vis-à-vis the cowboys dynamic, like the NFL is a good place to go pick a hobby or. I tend to want to be smart about, oh, come to me for your take on this. Insofar as that presents itself to me. And then do you start thinking of yourself as like a quilt? A Tapestry. Yeah, yeah, like a take Tapestry. That's the most elegant way of describing, just like it's almost sort of like one of those booths where people like have a giant fan at the bottom and there's money. Grab it. It's like, yeah, Tapestry. And not that. Definitely not that. A Tapestry. Well, I mean, I feel like you're shitty metaphor after my shitty metaphor, but let's bring up the actual elephant in the room, which is like, this is also a question about medium, right? So it's like, there's an opportunity in writing. You started as a fact checker at SI, you found ways to write a feature the first one that you wrote was a called how athletes go broke. It is like one of the most popular stories in the history of Sports Illustrated. Probably still the most popular story I've ever written to this day, which is a little sad. 'cause it's like actually the first one. Yeah, just the first big bonus piece and still pops up all the time on Reddit, which is a currency that I clearly value. It's part of your Tapestry. Yes. But you were like, you were a writer, man. When you and I talked the first time, it was like, you were right or starting to do TV. And now change years later, you are a TV guy that's doing audio. And I wonder about how a, those changes have felt to you in the same way that like running at the opportunity to marry two sixers fans fields. Is it just like, this is the next thing that is presented itself. And it feels like the right move. And then B to put us back in the booth with fan and the money flying around. Like, how much of that is about the economics of being a writer versus being a TV guy? And then how does audio fit into that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I have a couple of, you know, mentor is such an overused word. But I have a couple of people that I have, I've listened to who have walked paths very similar. And all of them started off as my favorite writers who then abandoned writing to go play and do TV and radio in the case of Tony kornheiser or Dan levit or all of these guys who made that choice. A choice that is Tony corn as I wrote a book not his first book, but one of his later ones that that was simply titled, I'm back for more cash. I'm not that naked about it. But let's be honest about where the incentives are where the carrots are at the end of which sticks. And that is not to say that I have devalued writing. I still believe it is the hardest thing though satisfying thing, the thing
"torre" Discussed on Longform Podcast
"You? Do you remember the bad takes? Honestly, there's only one genre of bad take that I've given. And I believe it to be a good take. So probably not. For you. That is classic take I talk. No, I would routinely on around the horn, which is the show that sort of baptized me into sports talking. I would routinely pick a 16 seed to win a game in the NCAA tournament, which had not ever happened. And I would do this literally every year since I got on the show. And then, of course, I would get muted penalized. It's for those unfamiliar with around the horns. Their point is a game show kind of conceit. I would lose points and points. I would be destroyed for it. And then. The university of Maryland Baltimore county, I believe, UMBC. One, they became the first 16 seed ever a couple of years ago to win. And I picked a different 60s. And I was like, wow, that's probably the worst take I've ever had. And yet. And yet, I was so ahead of this curve. I was vindicated while also being docked literally like -300 points, a number. I did not think it fit onto the around the horn score. Bug in the corner of the screen. Do you hear from people about takes? I will say that it's not so much that they have hit me up saying, I heard what you said. But people that I have followed and vice versa, like mutually follow each other on Twitter, have definitely unfollowed me. After my suspicion is, like, tweeting about them or talking about them too much. So for instance, I am ESPN's number one, Ben Simmons, apologist, chronicler. And for NBA nerds, you get immediately why that's a fraught position. It's pathetic that I'm now going to talk about this, but I was like, oh, Ben, unfollowed me recently. And I'm like, yeah, I did kind of, it's weird. It's weird. It's weird to notice that, but I also think that it probably came from a place of taking a lot about him. And I've become critical at times and it's just not, yeah. It's one of those kind of dynamics. Have you turned on Ben Simmons? I've become slightly more critical, still very much the number one booster of him. But I would say that it's just hard not to imagine that the sheer tonnage of opinions I've expressed about him. Whether it's about the serious, like mental health and performance anxiety because he famously infamously really refused to shoot in the postseason, which I found fascinating and also became this huge story that led him to leave the sixers, go to Brooklyn and then become part of this team full of other guys, by the way, that I unquestionably do criticize and make fun of and talk about in the same breath. Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant. He's on that tube now and it's like, okay, this is a very, yeah. It's a very volatile stew of opinions and reports and me just talking a lot. And in part because I feel like for you in particular, because of your arc at ESPN, you have sort of carved out these pieces of real estate, which are often very connected to individual people. So you were the German Lin guy during Lin sanity. You were the process guy with Sam hanke in the 60s. Another allegedly bad take that definitely was great. I'm with you on the planet. Your support of the process was always right. And becoming insufferable, max, thank you for cosigning me. I'm interested in how you think about those pieces of real estate and whether they are premeditated opportunistic decisions, whether they happen in real time and suddenly you are the Jeremy Lin guy or the process guy or the Ben Simmons guy. There's a level of career calculation in how you navigate a place like ESPN, where you see open real estate, what you run at. And then I imagine that there's an element of just sort of dumb luck and timing. And I wonder how those two have talked to each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, let's just explain how the economy of ESPN or sports media works. There are hobby horses that are very useful, profitable, like hating the Dallas Cowboys. Stephen a Smith, like riding in on a literal horse wearing a cowboys Jersey. That is the apex of what we're talking about. The most popular team being routinely destroyed by a man who is at the top of our ecosystem. That's sort of the north star in some ways. But the point is, like for me, it's funny, like those stories in specific. It started with a truly anonymous Harvard college basketball player. And the team that lost more than any other in NBA history. And when I got those stories and they started from the magazine perspective, in no way was I like, this is a hill. I'm eventually going to want to die on. But then after you go through any report it dispassionately. And then you realize, wait a minute, I'm like either the person with access or I'm the person who has this perspective that feels not fully alone but lonely? Especially with the process and the sixers nationally, where everyone's just shitting on them and no one had really any idea what they were doing. I was like, oh,
"torre" Discussed on Longform Podcast
"Has that if ever been a question for you? Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because as a magazine writer, that's the zag, I'm zagging away from the idea that, oh, these gamer writers, these beat guys who are covering a baseball team, you know, I don't want to live that life at all. These games, I'm above that. I am seeking art. You know? And what I realized in the daily show format is that absolutely you can sense that level of condescension, probably, just because of what I'm interested in, why are we doing so many magazine centric stories? Why are we doing an hour long episode today about the Munich games in 72 and the massacre of Israeli Olympians and the story of the one guy, the one Holocaust survivor who lived through that? And now we're going to tell the story of the horrors of the 20th century. Why are we doing that story on a Friday before NFL weekend? It's because of that guy who wants to make art. But at the same time, if I'm presented with a Sue bird and the finals are going on, I'm like, I also think that it says something that our show and this is a particular to the WNBA that our show considers that sport important. That that's what gets covered with rigor and enthusiasm in the way that, man, if I had Tom Brady on here and the Super Bowl was happening, I would also ask him about that as well as why he currently looks like a real housewife. Do you think you could get Tom Brady on the therapy couch? I'd like to try. I'd like to try, but I also feel like the number of jokes I've made about him. Like this is the other part of this job backs where I'm like guy taking and by that I mean giving takes and guy doing like journalism. It's a weird Google search if you're a subject of mine who then finds out what did this guy say about me over possibly 800 episodes over the last two years of various things. Right, I mean, just like just by sheer take math, the od pretty good that you've had a take. Undoubtedly. And my saving grace is that the haystack is just so massive that you're not going to find that needle.
"torre" Discussed on Longform Podcast
"Are ways in which sports is metabolism has increased so rapidly that it's not even daily anymore. It's like hour by hour almost. That is 1 million % correct. How do you think about the audience for if not the 8 things over two years consumption, but that sensibility? Who is looking for the off the beaten path slightly deeper dive, even if it's just about the game tonight, which is one of the kind of archetypes of ESPN daily is like, there's a big event tonight. We're going to go deep on someone who is playing a coach, whatever. Who's the audience for that who like, who wants it? It's a tricky question because fundamentally the show is for me. The show is for somebody who has felt some exhaustion by how sports has become consumed. And what I want to provide is a different way of constructing a diet of sports news. I mean, and even the question of the question of what does sports news even mean? Like the hour to hour minute to minute, Twitter metabolism entails a level of transaction and news bite driven conversation that I do want to avoid. And so for me, I want to do a couple of things. One of them is explain stories to people who are like, I don't know what this is, and I would like someone smart to explain it to me. I will find a smart person and have them explain it to you. The other version of it is there are stories that you just don't know about because they don't fit into that schedule, right? And this is the magazine approach, and that's where I'm like, I have an open borders policy as a podcast. All are welcome. But I'm specifically appealing to people who want a little bit more of that magazine curation of what if I gave you one thing today and that thing was the thing you needed and what if that thing is deliberately different from every other way you consume sports. And that's the premise. Is it for hardcore sports fans? No, I am. This is why this is hard. And I appreciate you pushing on this. Because it's a show that is there to make sports fans smarter. Sometimes we have guests that are so smart that sports fans who are already very well informed well versed will get a lot from it. But at the same time, there is a generalist sensibility. And so we are straddling two things. And that is, that is the complexity of a show that is trying to have it all. You know? And so part of me thinks all of the time, right? Should we just do this for people who don't know nearly enough about sports and just want the basic level of like, tell me what I can repeat mimic. So when I'm out with my friends, I can seem like I know something about sports. If you listen to our show, you will absolutely have that. But we're also going to show you that the way that sports can be talked about in a deeper way in a more rigorous way is actually not that far out of your reach either. And so we're kind of an experiment in that way. Yeah, that makes sense to me. I think part of the reason I was asking, you did this episode I can't remember. It must have been last week with Sue bird. Yes. Who is one of the all time great WNBA players. And she had just lost her final game in the Western Conference Finals of the WNBA playoffs. It was her last game ever. And the episode did with her sort of in two parts. And one of them was this quite deep dive into what the emotional experience of ending your career suddenly, right? She wins that game, they win one more. They're in the finals. And you had this whole emotional psychological felt kind of like a very similar to lots of podcasts that I listened to kind of conversation, although one that I almost never hear on ESPN, right? Tell me about what your inner life was like in that moment and in the moments that followed. And then the second half of it was like a very straightforward analytical preview of the WNBA finals. How the matchups were going to work. Yes, from her perspective. And this does, you're right. This is exactly the dance that we do where both parts of me, the guy who is like breaking down games and wants to understand and teach people by being taught myself how to better watch sports is also right there with the person who wants suburb on a therapy couch. And so her perspective as the person who just lost to the team that's now in the finals, provided unparalleled insight into how to break down this series. But yes, if you were here for just therapy, you were also getting a breakdown of the WNBA finals. Right, I mean it felt like the first half of the show, if ESPN, the magazine still existed, RIP. Yes. The first half of the show would have been a great feature piece profile, like Sue bird and winter or whatever. And then the second half would have been like a 5 paragraph dot com story. Yep. Yep, Sue bird breaks down VW NBA Finals as only she can. Super it's 5 keys to the WNBA finals, you know? And here they were existing in the same show. Which seems so interesting to me, but didn't make me wonder like, who's that for? Well, here's the thing. We have to consider, I mean, this is the unifying theory as I talk aloud in a way that I don't really do often about what our show is trying to do. Explicitly, is that we consider sports important. Like that's one of the things that I realized. I am genuinely curious and enthusiastic about every show we do. And I say that because I have green lit, the show topic, and if I'm not interested, then why the fuck would anybody else be? And so I feel that. And that's part of the energy that weighs upon me is part of that born out of moments where you have said yes to things that you weren't genuinely curious about. And then you didn't think those shows worked as well. It's definitely because I realized that if I'm not interested, I don't have any expectation that someone also would be. So yes, and in so many words, yeah, trial and error. And then realizing, okay. If the whole premise of this show is, and this is returning me to the concept of sports news, right? Like I do and must consider the games, actually important and interesting. It's kind of like, hey, to pull an example, like exit interview with Kamala Harris, right? It's like maybe she's in therapy couch talking to me about her internal monologue after leaving office. But that is also like, hey, there's also this election happening. This week, and I just feel like it's insane to not ask about that if we consider the sports themselves to be important.
"torre" Discussed on Longform Podcast
"For Sports Illustrated, then ESPN the magazine, and he was starting to appear more and more on television and the conversation he and I had 6 years ago was about that transition. Since then, Pablo fully transitioned to TV, he got his own TV show on ESPN called high noon. It was hosted with Beaumont Jones and it launched. It lived. It died. And we talked about that. And now he has transitioned again into podcasting. He is the host of ESPN daily ESPN's daily podcast. And so we talked about all of those transitions and what his relationship is to writing now and the vast array of content that he has put out into the world in what his relationship to all of it is. Is this a tie in with the NFL season starting? Or just beautiful serendipity? You would think that I would have asked some questions about the NFL season starting, but instead I just asked him about, you know, his interior life. So this is not a tie in with the NFL season. We started over the last couple of weeks, but you know, not a bad time to do a do a little sports on the program. It's been a while since we've covered sporting life. So I look forward to this one. The show is produced in partnership with vox media. We thank them. Here's max with Pablo Torre. Hi Pablo, hello, max. How are you, sir? I'm good. I'm good. We were trying to figure out the last time I talked to you in this specific context. Yeah, this podcast and what did we find out? It's like 6 and change. That's a lifetime. I don't even remember what I was like at that point. Truly. But I'll try. You were wide eyed? You were excited about life. You had a joie de vivre. Yes, I had a buoyancy of spirit. Yes, exactly. That has now been waterlogged. By all of the content that I mind in the present tense. You have mined oh so much content since we last talked. You even think about how much content you have produced in the last 6 and a half years. Minutes, words, it's not great that when I heard the description of how Bitcoin gets mined. And I was like, there are environmental negative externalities to this. Probably not safe for those in the surrounding environments. I was like, that's how I feel. What's your version of emissions? I mean, man, my wife is probably better suited to answer that question. The degree to which I am bringing the decreasingly slow heat death of my sanity. No, I'm being I'm being extreme, but look, I host a daily podcast at ESPN now. After hosting a daily TV show, ESPN from 2018 to 2020, and now I host another talk show called debatable on ESPN. That is a conversational talk show with my friend Dominic foxworth and our other friends. And that has been daily. And so I have over the last two years, definitely done, I don't know, 700 episodes of stuff of stuff of stuff. And then adding TV onto that probably closer to a thousand. I don't know, man. I'm saying these numbers and I'm unsettled by them, honestly. Yeah, so there was a world in which and now I remember what I was like in 2016. I was a magazine writer. Well, there was a very specific thing that we were talking about when you were on in May 2016, which was, hey, you're a magazine writer, but I think maybe you're like a TV guy. Are you a TV guy? That was basically, it was like 45 minutes of me being like, are you a TV guy now? And how does that interact with your writing? Yes. And that was what it was about. It was about the wrestling you were doing with where your career was headed and getting pulled toward the screen and away from the page. And at the time, maybe this was the wide eyed joie de vivre that I was referencing. I think that you were hoping that you could have it all. I think that was the plan and the hope was that little of this little of that, all of it at a high level, but the writing will be present. It can't not be present. Oh, oh, my sweet. Sweet joie de vivre. Spoiler alert. No, I mean, look, the incentives of the business are obvious. TV pulled me away from writing. My sensibilities, my appreciation, my taste for it. And I say taste in terms of both like what I like by discretion, but also like my ability to taste flavors. They still remain. I still absolutely, and especially in this podcast job. Now, I'm constantly reading and consuming more than ever. But the ability for me to live the lifestyle that I'm now, as I talk to you, nostalgic for, in which I'm not making a thousand things over two years, I am making 8. Yeah. And they are true to the whole premise of why I was on this podcast in the first place. There were long form stories that I got to sort of marinate it. That became unsustainable, the travel, the ability to go away for a while, and not live in the daily news cycle. And that's a big change is that sports has this, you know, we're mixing a million metaphors, but the gravitational pull of what sports is animated by. Is definitely in that daily spirit. And so I find myself now trying to resuscitate and truly, I think successfully inject a bunch of that sensibility, a magazine sensibility into a daily news approach, which is incredibly difficult, but very rewarding and also exhausting. And I'm trying still max, what I'm saying to you is that I now realize I am still believing that I can have it all. And what a fucking. Well. Thanks so much for coming back to the show. It's been good. I feel like it's been good. I feel like I'm gonna just limp out. The way that I lived it. You were about to go for a really long walk. Yeah. Well, I have some questions about that balance. Yeah. And one of them is in this daily churn.
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"In for Paul at brayden Gaul, 8 5 5 two four two 7 two 8 5. Let's go to the phones. Mike, in Georgia, Mike, welcome to the Paul fine bomb show. How are you, sir? Hey man, how you doing? Doing well, man. Doing well. Listen, I was wondering about your suggestion earlier when you were talking about all this new found money and taking it and using it to buy players. And but if I'm not wrong though, would that would be cheating though, right? Because that money belongs to the university and it's okay for these get to these guys to get money through the collectives, but if they were getting money that came directly from the university would that not be cheating? No, yes, technically until there is a salary implementation, which Mike, I am of the belief that we are headed towards just like Nick Saban has said many times. We're just going to have a salary for players at some point. Like whatever that is, right? 50 grand a year, 80 grand a year, whatever the number is, if you come play football in the SEC, there's going to be a number that you're going to get eventually. That's where we're going. But I mean, but as it structured now though, I mean, as I said, well, I'm getting all this TV money and I mean technically as it is now. They can't put that money into buying players because that would be university money. And that would be wrong, right? Yes, technically, but here's how it works. This is I probably should have done a better job explaining this, Mike, so this is a good question on your part. If I need $200 million to build a facility, I get that from where I get it largely from boosters. I get that money from people who are donating. They want their name on a brick. They want their name on the archway. They want their name on the rotunda, whatever it is. Well, instead of giving us that money, because now we've got it from the TV deal, go give that money to the collective. So it's all cops. It's all one big pool of money, right? Right. Yes. And then that yes. And that's a way to go around it and it's a go around to make it work. Okay. Yeah, exactly. I think what you're saying. I just did I was just thinking that if you just overtly played players directly from all this excess cash, you get from your ESPN contract or whatever. No, you are correct, Mike, and I appreciate the call. Thank you, man. Now that is true, I need to make sure we clarify that. Wisconsin can not go right a check to a recruit right now overtly. No. Now, I think we're going to be there soon in the future where we have a salary cap and every player gets a certain amount of money for going to a Big Ten school or an SEC school. But the work around and if you want to call it that is instead of asking our boosters for a bunch of money to build these things, we don't need that money now. Go give that money to the collective. Go spend that money on players. Don't spend it on waterfalls. I probably should have clarified that. In for Paul 855-242-7285 appreciate the call. Mike Steven Alabama, Steve, welcome to the show. What's up, man? And when we get to vet level in 5 years, we're going to have universities trading players like the pros do now. I sure hope not. But that's not. But that's not why I called, I've got a fund scenario that I want to paint for you and then hang up and get your comments. Love it. The big 12 add San Diego Fresno Oregon and Washington and steals the name the big 16 from under the Big Ten. I'll hang up and get your response. Thank you, Steve. San Diego state Fresno state, Oregon, and Washington to the big 12. I think Oregon and Washington would be extremely valuable commodities. I think you would go after Utah and Colorado before you go after San Diego state and Fresno state. Maybe the Arizona school is because there are so many good recruits coming out of there. I think you would love to be able to market the fact that you have Utah and BYU together. With the holy war as a thing that you own. So I think we're going to Washington right now the two most coveted properties outside of Notre-Dame that are free and available. They are available right now. The ACC teams are more valuable, but they are not available. So could the big 12 go grab Oregon Washington, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Arizona state? Yeah, it's pretty good league. I mean, that would decapitate the PAC 12 permanently. And then Stanford goes and runs and jumps in Stanford and Cal go and jump in the Big Ten and hopefully that lures Notre-Dame and all of a sudden now we're talking about a 22 team breakaway in the Big Ten and a 22 team breakaway in the SEC. Again, that's to me, none of this is happening until mid 2030s. But I assume it's probably going to happen faster than that. The big 12 pack 12 stuff could happen tomorrow. But I don't think the SEC are the Big Ten or Notre-Dame aren't any hurry. The big three entities are not in any hurry right
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"torre" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show
"No. And it doesn't seem that there's any accountability or discipline coming from the NCAA. So Florida is playing by the rules when maybe other schools aren't. And I think that might set them at a disadvantage when it comes to nail, but I think the money is there with the gator collective. And the gator guard, I think the money is there, Florida has a great fan base, a large fan base of boosters and alumni. So I think Florida should do well in the NIL era. And I think the starting to being a little outclassed right now by some others though. Nick de la Torre joining us here from Gators online, Braden Gaul in for Paul and the Paul find bomb show and what's interesting is schools and resources and how they allocate those resources from now on. It used to be you had to have the slide and the fancy facility in the 5 resort and the 200 foot waterfall. I'm curious because Florida's kind of in the middle of reinvesting some of their money in building some stuff. They've got the outdoor the indoor practice facility finally in the state of Florida. That seems irrational how long it took to get that thing up and running. But just in general, do you think we are entering a period where we're not building as many buildings and we're spending a lot more money on players directly or do you still think there's lots of spending coming on facilities? Well, Florida is getting ready to spend in the hundreds of millions to do some renovations to bent home Griffin stadium that has been in the works for years now, but I wonder as Florida is ready to open up their football stand-alone facility. I wonder, hey, it's probably needed. You need to have that, but and it's overdue, but is that where it's going now? Like everyone else has that Clemson has a Georgia has the Alabama. All the schools are recruiting against habits. So it's kind of like just keeping up with the Joneses you needed it, but I wonder if we're moving in an area where these kids are going to be making a business decision, hey, cool, that recording studio in the barbershop and the chocolate water fountain are nice. But how much money am I going to get? While I'm in school, what are my, what's my exposure going to be? How are you going to help my social media brand? And I think it's already happening. I think it will happen even more. The mindset of recruits are changing to, oh, how much fun is it going to be in this cool facility to what's the best business deal for me to make? That's all great and everything that I've got that chocolate waterfall. But can you just give me the money, please? How much money are you spending on chocolate? Why is that not going into my pocket? Exactly, exactly. Nick de la Tori. Thank you so much, man. Really appreciate it. Gators online. Thank you, dude. Have a good one. Absolutely. Nick de la Torre there from Gators online, go check them out at de la Torre on the Twitter machine there as well. Lots of time for your phone calls here. Load them up. We got calls ready to go. 855-242-7285. You guys are next, brayden Gaul in for Paul.
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"torre" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show
"If you want to get in, we will have some time to get to you folks in just a minute. I promise. Big 12 media days have made their official predictions. They are out. We'll get to that momentarily. Mike Gundy, Oklahoma state head coach, all in his feelings about the future of the bedlam series. We'll get to that. As well here on the program. Again, 855-242-7285. You can get to me as well at brayden Gaul on the Twitter machine. More your calls in just a second. Of course, Nick de la Torre joining us here on the program from Gators online. Let's check in with Billy Napier and what he's doing down there. How many analysts do we have now in Gainesville? Officially on Billy Napier staff. It's just a running tally. And I'd be different by the time this interview ends. But yeah, hey, it's a gray area in the NCAA bylaws and these coaches will find a loophole wherever they can get it. And if you get an aids email pay for it, why not, right? Listen, I think if you're going to take some things from Nick Saban, I think Billy Napier and you tell me what you think about this, Nick. I think Billy Napier took the right things from the time he learned and worked with Nick Saban and is implementing them. He did it at Louisiana and from what I can tell. It sounds like he's implementing them at Florida. Yeah, well, I've been afforded ten years, so we've had some savings disciples come through and that's always the thought. Jim mcelwain came in, he had this 24 month calendar that he got from Nick Saban and it didn't work out and obviously Dan Mullen, he was not the same guy. But you hope you hope, I guess, because savings certainly the blueprint, but it seems to me that billing behavior has a plan because coaches have asked for two new assistants to help in recruiting and having gotten that and he was able to Billy Napier was able to go in with Scott Strickland and lay out a plan. Like, hey, I'm not just asking you for $7 million for nothing. These are what these people are going to do. So I think from an organizational standpoint and especially where college football is going right now, I mean, you've got recruiting, coaching, planning, now the transfer portal, which is like free agency and then there's like two different free agency periods. It's a lot to handle for a coach. So I think that Florida is probably maybe trend setting as we move into this new era with NIL and they have a whole division for NIL and opportunities for the student athletes there as well. Nick de la Torre joining us here, senior writer for Gators online. And what is the state of this roster? Because I think we'll see and find out how much Billy Napier was better at recruiting in his plan than maybe Dan Mullen, which obviously shouldn't take a whole lot. But what's the state of the roster that he is inheriting? We know how good Anthony Richardson is. There's a few nice defensive pieces. Where is this roster relative to the last 5 years? Yeah, I'm a little bullish on Anthony Richardson. I think he is, you know, has like potentially like a Cam Newton type of season in him. I don't know that floor does a national contender, certainly, but if Anthony Richardson plays, I think he can can border win ten games, maybe. I probably pegged them with their schedule between 7 and 8. I think they have a really good offensive line. They have three strong running backs and a quarterback who might be the best running back on the team. When you're 6 four two 40 and you can run 20 miles an hour. I think that's what they're going to lean on. If you look at building 8 years offense at Louisiana, last year, they had four different players carrying the ball a hundred times. I think you'll see that because Florida strength will be offensive line and then the running attack on defense, my big question marks are kind of right up the middle with defensive tackle nose tackle. There's not a lot of depth there. You have ventral Miller and middle linebacker who's returning for 6 seasons. But last year, when he went down Florida really didn't have an answer and you don't really have an answer this year if he were to go down with another injury. So I think for roster is good, there's just not a lot of depth. And that's probably what happens when you get coaching staff that had a recruiting season in a football season for the last three years. Nick de la Torre joining us here, Braden Gaul on the Paul finebaum show here on ESPN radio from Gators online. Our Gators fans more would they be would they view the win loss record as more important than where the recruiting class finishes or are they all in on the recruiting class right now? It's right now everything's recruiting. I think after ST media days, you know, you start to flip the switch to the football seasons. But the sky was falling and Gainesville a couple of weeks back when January. I went to Miami and there were a couple high profile 5 star guys that one went to Georgia one didn't include Florida in his top four that Florida was trying to trending for. But they've done a really good job picking up 6 four stars on our rankings in the past two and a half weeks. So recruiting speaking up, I think it's a pendulum though. If you go 7 and 5, but you look competitive and you first are the top ten class. I think fans are okay. If you go 7 and 5 and there's some blowout losses to Georgia at Texas a and M, if you lose to a Kentucky or a tendency and you end up with a class outside of even at 15, your outside of the top ten are in the top 20. People are going to be pushing a panic button. And I wonder now in this age of the transfer portal, I used to be a big advocate that coaches needed for years to get their recruiting class in their guys in and still their program. Now is the transfer portal. Is that leash shorter? Because you can see what guys like Mel Tucker have done at Michigan state. You don't need four years. You can go and it might be a band aid in the transfer portal, but you can get guys in and be competitive right away. So I think it's a pendulum for the fans it's a hot topic in a sense of area right now recruiting after the last three years. But I think it's probably a pendulum and it depends on not just the wins and losses, but how do you look in those wins and losses combined with the recruiting ranking? Yeah, as long as they have a winning record and a top 15 class, I think everyone's going to be going to be fine. What's interesting? Tell me what you think about this. I feel like Dan Mullen is a perfect coach. To live and operate in the name image and likeness space because he's not he's like spurrier in that he's not a guy that wants to go out there and just like, you know, beat the pavement to recruit, but he's got a brilliant offensive scheme. I mean, clearly almost beat Alabama multiple times. No one else came close for a couple of those years. It did Dan Mullen just come along at the wrong time or are there some other flaws that we maybe need to address? Damon is an offensive genius. I would put him scheming up against anybody, but at some point the Jimmy's in the Joe's are going to be your ex's nose. And the way Florida was recruiting against their rivals. And listen, it's hard. You could be, you'd have a 7th ranked recruiting class in the country and before in your conference. And that's what Florida is going to be compared to. What are you doing against Jimbo at a and M? What are you doing against Kirby at Georgia what are you doing guys Nick Saban? So the problem with Dan was they weren't getting the same guys that Georgia Alabama to an extent at times Tennessee tech saying and we're getting. So now your game plan has to be perfect and has to be executed perfectly because there's a talent gap. So that was the biggest issue that I had, I think, with the amount in his era. And I don't know that he would have done any better than Billy Napier with an AL. I think with the way that Florida is handling it and I say this, it's like, there's rules for NIL right now. But if I'm driving a 110 miles an hour on the freeway, and there's not a cop around, I'm breaking the rules, but am I going to get in trouble?
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"torre" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show
"And it could have been it's a funeral suit as many would say. I think that was a South Carolina compliment. You might take it as an insult. You know what they say? You look good enough to bury. That's a compliment. Yeah, no, you're right. Anyway, because, I mean, you don't want to be buried in a cheap soup, do you? Well, be better to be buried in a cheap suit than by a cheap pastor, right? That would be that would be the worst thing. But Paul, I found one thing that's more boring than listening to Roman Harper. And that's listening to a recap of the Florida spring game. So take care of Paul. Thanks for the call. That's where if I could just speak to the audience. Between us. That's where if you defend Roman Harper, you call more attention to the shot as opposed to just saying that was out of line. Fine, augie, 30 cents for that violation. JK is up next. He'll make us forget everything we just got through hearing. Paul, what's happening today, my buddy. JK, we began the show playing a clip from yesterday. Of you. Oh, I was out today. I didn't get to first study showing ever did. I missed Judas on with the archbishop the other day. Yes. Hey, Paul, you know what about a cheap suit and a Taylor suit? What's the difference? If you going down below, it's not going to matter what type of suit you got, I was going to burn up anyway. That's a good point. You're right. With me, so yeah, if I happen to die tonight, Randy. Go ahead and take this one off. I got a couple of business videos. I'm a send you one one day, but one I'm going to be, I had you in mind. And that is going to be it's going to be called skinny guys ties. Really? I have a picture. I'm going to have a picture of you on the look that the small, the small part of the part that you can't see. Do you like skinny ties? Oh, yeah. My problem is, I can't find them anywhere. That's going to be joint business venture. Before COVID, I was up in New York, the most of the fall. And I went into countless stores up there, and they finally threw me out of one. They said, we don't sell skinny ties, get out of here. Hey, Paul, I think I'm going to start me a park has one of these good old days. I'm thinking about looking for be my sidekick. If you are looking for a podcast partner, I've been looking to get out of this and go into the podcast business. I hear it's really lucrative, Randy. So why don't you let's think about that. The JK and Paul podcast. Bama hater, I'm a lover. I got a good ring to it, Paul. I think we could make some dough. Yeah. We need to. I need to. You got enough? Well, it depends on your skin. I got a lot of mouths to feed. Hey, Paul, don't forget about that proposition. I know you tried to cut me off, but once we make the playoffs, I'd be looking for my seat. JK, I'll have to be here a long time. You're to grab that shit. Every time I call, you get speechless for some reason. Every time I call, you speechless. Well, I mean, when you're criticizing Bama, at least you have a point, even though we don't agree with it, when you're praising Miami, you lose the audience very quickly. No, no, no, policy. It's like every call. Everybody got a pen. You entitled to yours too, just like me. That is true. Well, may you have a good one, man. JK, you take care of you. I never realized when this show began today that I was going to be a business partner of JK in a podcast. You think, you know anybody that can get us started in the podcasting business? We'll take a break. We are coming back for 30 minutes, stick around. You are listening to the Paul fine bomb show podcast. We're back. And let's check out Amy in South Carolina next. Good afternoon. How are you doing? We are doing great. Thank you. First thing, first thing I want to let you know is we need to give a big old shout out to the Alabama softball team, Montana file, really kill foy. And Stephanie, they call price rate. They are doing amazing. And after they're fantastic team and they'll be among the top two or three favorites to win at all this year. Well, I mean, Montana is the number one pitcher in the SEC. Absolutely. So we've got a lot to go for. But I think the comment on what I mean was talking about. Okay. I'm in a 15 minute Clinton. I'm Ann was talking about Peter being in the Bible and that there is no in Tuscaloosa. But I want to know where the biggest is found. It's a clip from South Carolina. Well, Amy, thank you very much. Okay. Robot. Roll Todd, yeah. I don't know what to say about that. I mean, here you have this nice, sweet woman, and South Carolina, throwing that word around. There are a couple of things I could say. But I am going to, when I was younger, my mother always said, when you don't know something, defer to someone who does. So I want this next caller to help me get out of the place that Amy put me in by using that four letter word that was not an acronym acronym. Handsome Joe, can you bail me out? And you know what? The only thing I can think about Amy is I'll be honest. I'm glad you took a minute before you went to because that kind of left me speaking. I mean, I didn't know what Joe wasn't even called in to. That's all I'm going to call my man phone number. You know, just heard some lady talking to him. I started to was Randy's help. Think about bursting out into, I can see why you think you belong to me. Well, my boy may just have an extra season. Might we make bang rang out back? And there's no anchor system on that. Man power, I don't know what the world gum crazy. The world has gone absolutely crazy. You're right. And you know when I told you that last week I talked about Tennessee baseball coach about how we kind of favorite power. I think I gave him some bad joke, joke, because he decided just to go prison, you already can. Are you excited to go prison yard over the weekend? And then there's something else I want to make you proud. I know if they have a couple of people changing their pictures. Changing their pictures only. Yeah, we have Daryl has changed and are you comfortable with the same picture? You know, yelling has my Patreon with a couple of months, and now I mean, it's just like, I've raised the bar. I mean, now you've got a couple of desperate folks. That's all. I knew what they had with Mark and so now they're just trying anything. And it ain't working. I mean, you can't make a picture. Okay, crap. I mean, no matter how you put it black and white, or if you put it in color, you know, Jane angles, get the sunlight, you know, sun setting in the background. And still looks like crap. I mean, I've raised more on them, bob. And we may see a whole slew of everybody changing picks. But you know, that's just a great, you know, maybe I'm shaking it up a little bit. And he didn't want to put a picture of it. And you know, and I don't think he gave him the board box. He was being cold right now. 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The Atlas Obscura Podcast
"torre" Discussed on The Atlas Obscura Podcast
"Tori Argentina in Rome is open to the public as of 2022. They will actually let you supposedly go down into the ruins and explore a bit. And of course, the cats are still there. Thank you so much to Phoebe for taking the time to speak with me today. Our podcast is a co production of Atlas obscura and witness docs. The production team includes Doug baldinger Camille Stanley. Chris naka. Sarah Wyman. Willis Ryder Arnold. Baudelaire Seuss. Amanda McGowan, Johanna Mayer manolo Morales, John Dolores. Tracy Samuelson. Peter Clowney. Our technical director is Casey holford. This episode was mixed by loose Fleming. And our theme and end credit music is by Sam tindall. I'm Dylan Thurston..
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"torre" Discussed on The Atlas Obscura Podcast
"This is the hardest interview I've ever done in my life. It's harder than the body farm. This is 1000 times harder than the body room. This is the hardest interview I've ever done in my life. But really now in other ways, the ways that mattered. It was a perfect love story. What was the love story there for you? I think Sylvia and the cats. Here is a bit from this is love. The silvia and the cats episode. When you get to the old ruins, you have to look down to see them. They're below street level. There are foundations of old buildings with grass growing up around them, a maze of walkways, columns on their sides, and of course, the cats. Lots of cats. And there's a little staircase in one corner, and when you go down the stairs and duck into a little cave like room, you'll find an 80 year old former opera singer. My name is silvia Viviani. She kept telling me to be careful because the ceilings were so low. She spends a lot of time here. In a little room underground, next to the ruins. Sylvia is the caretaker for the cats. According to me, the most artistic. The most artistic thing girl created. Here's the greatest artist. And cats are here's a chef day of what is it about cats? Why do you think that's a big state so what was it like meeting Sylvia who takes care of all these cats? Well, she's a wonderful woman. She's a true Roman, whatever that means. I love Rome. It's my favorite city. I like it more and more every time I feel very lucky that I get to go there. That sounds rather grand every time I get to go to Rome. For some reason, I've had work that's brought me there and things. And I really love Rome. And meeting her, you realize how much how far I have to come to ever really know Rome or think that I could tell anyone about it. But she's devoted her whole life to cats. And she's with them all day, and then at night she goes home and takes care of little kittens. And she's just, this is all, this makes her happy. And she's not young. I mean, she's getting old. And I think probably terrified about the day where she couldn't come in and take care of these cats and see this sanctuary that she's built. When I told her that I didn't like cats, she looked at me as if there was something wrong with me. You know, that I hadn't gotten it right. You called this, you said it was the hardest hour you'd ever lived and possibly the hardest interview you've ever done. Why did you choose this story to tell? I think being so devoted to something, you know? And obsessed. I love obsession. I'm obsessed with obsession stories. And she seemed wholly devoted and in a singular mindset of her life was her job her role in life was to take care of these cats of Rome, and that was the thing that mattered. Phoebe judge is the host of three podcasts. Criminal, this is love and Phoebe judge reads a mystery. The episode you heard snippets from is Sylvia and the cats. It's episode 15 from season three of this is love. It is really incredible and worth listening to the whole thing. I think this is the hardest hour I've ever lived. In my life. Microphone or not..
The Atlas Obscura Podcast
"torre" Discussed on The Atlas Obscura Podcast
"When you get there, you walk down this little tiny set of iron stairs and you emerge into the walls of this of these ruins, I've never seen anything like it. And you can't really escape because the sanctuary, this refuge is set into the walls underneath the streets of Rome. And so it's very the ceilings are very low and arched made out of stone, and it's all very heavy and imposing. And it's just cats everywhere you go. Humans are not in control at this place. The cats are in control. Hundreds of cats. And I hate cats. I'm doing tariffs and on today's show, we're going to the ancient ruins of Torre Argentina in Rome. It's.
Strange and Unexplained with Daisy Eagan
Is Time Travel Possible? Stories About Potential Time Travelers
"In july of nineteen. Fifty four as passengers filed through customs at tokyo international airport. A middle aged white man stepped up to a customs agent and handed over his documents. His passport from the country of torrid looked official enough if slightly different than other countries passports had to stamps from japan from that year alone showing that this was his third trip to the country. Despite that the customs agent was like Torrid and the man was like yep or whatever the japanese equivalent of yup is. Apparently he spoke japanese french and a few other languages and the customs agent was like I've never heard torrid whereas it and the man was like. What do you mean. You've never heard of torah. It is gone tree. Ask two point two tore it on a map. However the man pointed to a country between france and spain called andorra and was genuinely confused. He said he had no idea what andorra was and that his country of torre had a rich one thousand year old history for further proof. The man pulled out his checkbook but the customs official who had now gotten involved trying to sort out. The situation couldn't find bank matching the name of the bank of the checks. He was also carrying currency for many different countries. Which was what you had to do back before. Debit cards are bitcoin. Or whatever the kids are using these days which at least indicated that he did indeed travel internationally a lot so now this guy is starting to seem pretty suspicious walking around with checks from a non existent bank and a nonexistent country. The customs people were like okay. If you're here on business what company you work for the man happily provided the name of the company he worked for but when officials called the company they learned that while it did have a branch in japan. it didn't have one in torrid. It also had no record of this man either working for them or having an appointment with anyone in the company.
AP News Radio
Altuve HR Caps 6-Run Rally in 9th, Astros Shock Yankees 8-7
"Jose Altuve a three run walk off home run capped a six run ninth inning rally as the Houston Astros stormed back to beat New York Yankees eight to seven Chas McCormick two run double started the comeback after he scored on Abraham Toro is double L. two they followed a chasing Castro single and smacked a one curve ball into the left field seats Torre was at third base when he hit it I mean I I knew it was gone I was just making sure enough the the home run it was crazy like when when you get out throughout the play you know you always expect something something big and he came through once again Tim the Castro and Gary Sanchez hit home runs for the Yankees but they finished three for sixteen with runners in scoring position and left fourteen men on base Adam Spillane Houston
How 2 Skiers Conquered Yosemite's Half Dome
"Valley, 8800 FT. Above Sea level is a rock formation called Half Dome in the 19th century, a report said. The granite landmark was so perilous that it quote Never will be trodden by human foot. Well, today, Half dome is a popular hike for thrill seeking climbers. Yosemite resident Jason Tor Llano has always looked at the massive rock with a feeling of wonder. I went to school, right New 70 Valley next to you, Somebody falls. Um and you look up you somebody from the playground is a little kid. That's where the big thunderstorms come from. And when it snows, it just gets packed with snow and And it's just always been attracted to have them. But Torre Llanos attraction to half Dome has always been tied to another interest of his skiing since the very first time he clicked into skis. From that moment on, I just looked around and Kept seeing shoots our ski able to this age. When he was 17 Tor Lana went climbing with a friend on half dome. Remember walking down the cable's going? Wow, I bet you this thing's cable, and it turns out he was right this year, Jason to Orlando and his friends act, Milligan finally descended. Half dome on skis mean climbing half dome is dangerous enough descending on skis. It's a slab of no anchors. So avalanches occur all the time off that. And if you fall or get caught in an avalanche, you're gonna fall off the South face 1000 ft Cliff, so they scouted the location a day early. We walked up there the day before, and we slept at the base in a tree. Well, we start a little fire and kept warm for a few hours. So we're so cold at three in the morning. We're like okay with mice will go to the top. We got it in perfect conditions. This time, it was like a lay an inch layer of ice with about 3 to 4 inches of snow. Trevino and Mulligan weren't the first to descend Half dome in the snow. It's been done on skis and on snowboard, but their trip was special. Well made Our stand a little different is we? We skied the cables with no ropes. But then we see it all the way down to near Lake So another 4000 plus Vertical feet. Achieving this lifelong dream has not stopped to Orlando from eyeing other slopes in the park. Every time I go to Yosemite. I look up into the mountains and just there's so much I want to do. They're still that's Jason Tor Lana, who skied down half dome into the Yosemite Valley last month.
"torre" Discussed on Podcast RadioViajera
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Marketplace Tech with Molly Wood
Retailers are turning to virtual storefronts this holiday season
"Shopping is big part of the holiday season. We go downtown or to a packed mall browse the store windows smell. The chestnuts roasting in the street. The pandemic has obviously changed all this but some retailers like gap ted baker and ralph. Lauren are trying to deliver that experience to our computers. I just clicked her. A virtual tour of ralph lauren's beverly hills store at the entrance. There's an archway decorated with christmas garlands and a marble fountain with mannequins posed in front of it. I think that that this dude is supposed to be riding a horse or something and there is a saddle next to him. Yeah a saddle. Part of the ranting. I guess. I don't think that it's for sale. And i tried to click on it. But now i ended up in another somewhere else. I don't know where i am. Now let me go back. Oh god okay. I talked about the virtual storefront experience with joe toro a professor at the university of pennsylvania and author of the book. The aisles have is the thing that's weird about it. One is that there's no one else in the store and two. There's no sales people so it's essentially a store after the rest of the world has been destroyed. And when you click on a particular marker next to the goods you see the price of the goods you can actually purchase it. We've seen the companies that make these virtual stores sell themselves during the pandemic as a way to get people in store despite the lockdown Do you think brands are hoping this will drive sales or is it. Just more of a pr move well everything. They're hoping we'll drive sales. I think what it is is an attempt to use the architecture that they have. The stores are brands. The physical architecture says something about store the idea that when you walk into a ralph lauren. Store it's not macy's that's the kind of idea they want to depict find interesting. Is that retailers. Were launching these virtual storefronts even before the pandemic which to me indicates that they think people will want to use them during normal times. Why do you think. Shoppers would go to a virtual store if they could go to one in person because it's easier sometimes because people have gotten used to the idea. The habit of shopping online and because those stores wanna differentiate themselves from amazon. If you can actually walk into ralph lauren. In a way that makes you feel good about what you're doing instead of going on to amazon and just going through a regular kind of standard catalog. Maybe would find more interesting. I mean occurs to me that stores are not always accessible or comfortable for everyone. And don't forget that. If you live in new york los angeles there are stores for just about every brand and so what they're doing is reporting the expensive architecture and branding that they created for these flagship stores in big cities and allowing people all over the country and even the world to go into them. So you've written about. How retailers are remarkably good at tracking us in store figuring out our preferences what we might wanna by using cameras and smartphone apps and gps's how might the data collection process look different in virtual storefront. Well the great thing about that. From the standpoint of the retailer is they can actually follow. Your is particularly if using goggles right. They know what you're looking at. They know where you've gone it has the counterpart of walking through the store. So they can actually see. Have you passed the shoe aisle while maybe if we give you a virtual coupon you'll go back to the shoe while they're that level of lineal activity that they can follow and they can see what you're interested in which is partly possible to do of course on a regular website but in terms of the movement across the store and maybe the the trying on of things and putting them back and all that eventually you'll be able to see in this kind of world That's gonna be useful for Stores to know also where you start when you go to a website you pretty well have search for a particular good and then you put it down or you purchase it when you walk into a store. You may wonder you know. If it's a virtual store the same thing and companies will be really interested in how people wander. That's one of the major issues of creating stores organizing stores figuring out how to get people to buy things. Where do you place your goods based upon how people wonder do you think there's any additional data a retailer might be able to get if you're shopping in its virtual store rather than its in-person store will say say what you look for is one thing if the voice becomes part of it for example if they include a virtual sales people who talk to you the way customers talked to the virtual sales people could become another important piece of data what companies infer from the way you speak and even the literal voice tones that you speak with can tell them things about you. Joe torre wrote the book. The aisles have is
Monocle 24: The Foreign Desk
Quim Torra, the president of the regional government of Catalonia, has officially been disqualified from office
"Last November in the build up to a general election in Spain Kim Torah, the president of the Regional Government of Catalonia hung a banner on the building in which the government sits demanding the freedom of certain of his colleagues presently in prison or in exile, and what we are going to ask Mister Sanchez. Okay. Obviously and of repression to sit together in these table of negotiations with no conditions that means that we are going to put on. The table, these referendum, these right of Catalonia to self determination, and we want to ask Mr Scientific for the amnesty for our colleagues imprison this week. This act appears to have caused cream Torah his job Spain's Supreme Court has upheld a previous decision banning him from public office eighteen months a consequence of him disobeying an earlier court order to remove the poster which was held to violate election laws against displaying political materials in were indeed on public buildings. He was also fine. Thirty thousand euros treated to a judicial wigging for his quote stubborn blunt repeated and obstinate on quote refusal to do as he was told. Others naturally be afraid of these magistrates if the Supreme Court would decide whether to disqualify democratic and legitimate president for having defended freedom of expression justice prisoners, coalitions, and the return of the exiles these traits today have in their hands. Something much more important than my political futures wanted. Not For any banner. But for banner that defended the fundamental rights denied I mean stylish kitchen. Inevitably given the nature of populist nationalist movements of the tight which Mr Tara leads he and his supporters will regard this damnation as a ringing endorsement. The practical upshot of this decision is that Catalonia has a new acting president, vice president and Economy Minister Arrogance and the Embassy of Catalan independence have been stoked once again with potentially combustible consequences. For Listeners who've been sufficiently bewildered by recent global events that decathlon succession crisis feels like something that happened circa the battle of Salamanca as opposed to three years ago a brisk recap is possibly in order. In October, two thousand and seventeen, the procession regional government of Catalonia through a referendum on independence. This vote had already been declared illegitimate by Spain's national government ruled illegal by Spain's constitutional. Court. and was widely boycotted by pro unionists within Catalonia. What they are pushing is not democracy it's a mockery of democracy travesty of democracy. Referendum do not equal or do not equate democracy. The result was ninety percent in favor of independence but on a turnout of only forty three percent. Nevertheless on October twenty, seventh, two, thousand and Seventeen Catalonia's parliament. Independence Solutia. The COLOSIO Delta repetant parliamentary get rather sit down. Though in Punta. The worst Zimba. Spain's national government was unimpressed by this and accordingly sacked Catalonia's leaders dissolved its parliament and instituted direct rule from Madrid Catalonia's. Can Preach Demont and a few other putative architects of the Catalan nation skipped the country. Wisely, it turned out those who stayed were arrested and charged with treason several received hefty prison sentences including Catalan vice president, Auriol Carris, currently serving thirteen years. President preached amount remains in exile in Belgium from where he has managed to get elected to European Parliament as a representative of Spain Vice? President John Carey has also been elected to European Parliament although for obvious reasons is yet take his seat. Absolutely none of which has caused the idea of Catalan independence to go away at least not entirely though recent polls do suggest dwindling enthusiasm for the idea from nearly forty nine percent at the time of the referendum to perhaps forty two percent. Now, President Torre has strongly suggested that regional elections may be held early in two thousand, twenty one, which he is already framing as a choice as he puts it between democracy and freedom or repression and imposition. The, difficulty with this argument is that in the present dispensation, Catalonia is not short of either democracy or freedom. It is the richest part of what is by global standards a wealthy country. It enjoys considerable autonomy electing its own parliament flying signed flag, speaking its own language, controlling its own police and many of the public services, including schools and healthcare. The Catalan independence movement often looks and sounds less like some heroic struggle to slough off a brutal imperialist yoke. The net does populist insurrection like Brexit, another self indulgent tantrum thrown by the complacent citizens of a prosperous and orderly nation rebelling against some imaginary tyranny door is breaking. Independent United Kingdom. The difference of course is that Mr Torah his colleagues and supporters do have a case on the repression and imposition front as well. The referendum of two thousand and seventeen was a stunt which all, but begged Madrid to overreact and indeed. Did Not just in its heavy-handed persecutions of the independence movements, ringleaders. But in the ham-fisted response of the National Police and Guardia Civil, which left hundreds of pro-independence protestors injured and Spain's government looking like exactly the authoritarian overlords that Catalonia's government was accusing them of being. Versus the cycle of Grievance keeps turning in firing president. Torres Spain might be about to discover again the folly of punishing those who want to be punished.
Iran Executes Wrestler Accused of Murder After He Took Part in 2018 Protests
"For his life to be spared. 27 year old Naveed of Curry had been convicted for the killing of a security guard during anti government protests in 2018. Mr Curry said he'd been tortured. Into making a confession. Among those who called for the Iranian of thought is to show mercy where President Trump on the International Olympic Committee, which says it's shocked. By the execution. Tara. Separate FA is the researcher on Iran for human rights. What she's been telling me more about Navid of Curry and his standing is arrested in Iran. Naveed Afghan, participated in several national competitions and had run up position and the adolescence and youth national championship in Iran. Few years back, and was he taking part in anti government protests in 2018? So there have been several rounds of protests over the past 2 2.5 years in Iran. The protest that Naveed was prosecuted for took place in summer of 2018 in several cities, including in Shiraz, where he lived. So how did he come to be accused of stabbing to death? His security guards and so, according to documents Reviewed on DH news articles have been published about the case on the evening off one of the days that the protest was ongoing. Mr Torre Common who initially was reported as a security officer, but later was introduced as just an employee off the water Waste management company was stabbed to death close to his home. Naveed and his brothers were arrested about a month later. Naveed in one of his brother was also been implicated. And in village murder, were arrested in September of 2018, according to hand written letter by Naveed and that has been published, He experienced severe torture into different detention centers where he was detained. In issue Ross. He was facing dozens of charges in ST separate cases, but the criminal court sentenced him to death in October of last year. 2019 the evidence used against him was mostly confessions. Of him, his brother and a friend, And they all alleged that those confessions were obtained under torture. And in April off this year, the Supreme Court uphold the death sentence and quickly brushed over the serious allegations of torture and failed to investigate that, so there were no independent witnesses who Tied, Mr AFC hurried to the scene of the stabbing a cz faras, you know, according to authorities and footage is that been released? There's footage from one security camera. It is unclear if if the person in the video is exactly Naveed, and if that proves anything, anything beyond reasonable doubt, why do you think that the Iranian authorities decided to make an example off him? If you like on DH to execute him, even though there was this into A national outcry. I think that the rush nature off this sentence because Iranian authorities disregarded the procedural rules that they need to abide by and when executing someone shows that it had a political motive behind it, And I would say it's probably an attempt to defy the international and domestic outcry against the death penalty. So was there a campaign inside Iran to have him sped? Since July of this year, there has been an ongoing campaign. Online, mostly with the hashtag don't execute against the death sentence that have been issued in relation to the protest that have happened over the past two years. And it is a growing a domestic movement, and many people also try to raise awareness and work in different capacities to save Naveed is life arranging from people who were working on convincing the Supreme Court for a retrial to the ones who were hoping for. Give nous y and all the other activists who were trying to raise a very innocent and informing international institutions and authorities, hoping for coordinated pressured It was Tara separate far a researcher in Iran for
Resonate Recordings launches a podcast host
"We start with an exclusive resonate recordings has launched its own hosting platform resonate being the editing mixing and mastering platforms. Hosting Service Means Simpler workflows. The company says with analytics, a podcast, micro sites and to imbedded players. Costing is proving to be recession proof. According to the CEO of. Fatima's add who's writing for pod news today. Looking at how podcasts fared during the pandemic, a why she believes that podcasting is resilient and offers great opportunities to come twenty five percent of Latinos in the US a monthly podcast listeners according to the Latino podcast listener report from Edison Research Tinos also spend more time listening to audio Katina USA. NPR REX have announced a new partnership. The Latino USA podcast will join pr ex from October the first. NPR has announced this late for the second half of two thousand and twenty, including three new shows and a change for invisibility. Fair. APP has had an update the popular podcast APP now includes Apple Watch support a relax and sleep collection of shows and full support for ipad cast box is now correctly sending a user agent with its RSS feed scraper. After we reported bargain, the user agent is in our show notes and our newsletter today reporting user agents that pass, RSS Feeds. Helped to gain more accurate analytics. Motorcycles launched an updated version of their podcast tools, director, including articles and resources. The pivot podcast is hosting a series of virtual events called schooled in August. The shows will include live interviews and the opportunity for you to ask questions in real time nominees third annual audio theatre central Seneca awards have been announced. The winners will be announced on July. The twenty fourth and audio description has come to Australian public service television, allowing people with visual impairments to join TV programs and movies like this from frozen reindeer jams the. Place and penstock like a proud puppy. One him with his stick. Then goes to sneeze. He grabs his nose with both hands. His head shoots frozen coming this winter and our focus on those when those audio described shows be great as podcasts. Polk News Pablo. Torre will be the new host of the ESPN daily podcast from Aug launched today. Missing all murdered looks at Katie O'Shea who vanished in a small country town in Queensland in Australia in two thousand five adult lily wants to know the answer to that one question and the Vesey's view has former British Minister Vesey's looking at tech disruption. His guest is unlisted. Benedict Evans
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Judge restores NY Democratic presidential primary on June 23
"New York Democratic Party chair Jay Jacobs called the primary unnecessary now that Joe Biden is unopposed and dangerous in the midst of the corona virus pandemic but lawyers for withdrawn presidential candidates Bernie Sanders in the inter Yang had argued it would be wrong to cancel the primary and US district judge Analisa Torres agreed ruling the move unconstitutional Torre said it would deprive voters have the chance to choose convention delegates who might shape the party platform the judge said there should be enough time before the June twenty third date to figure out how to carry out a primary safely I'm Ben Thomas
The Secret History of the Korean Bat Flip
"Can you explain in your own words? What a best slip actually is so normally. When a baseball player has a big hit he just kinda gently lays down his right and continues on his way down the base path. But sometimes that doesn't happen sometimes. A hitter is very proud and here. She will watch the ball takeoff and sometimes they'll pause sometimes. They'll do this while they're running. But instead of gently laying down the bet they will launch it into space. There are many different ways of doing this. It can be a flick of the wrist. It can be a throw a defiant curl. Perhaps the bat can travel feet. The back can travel very far but often it sort of twirls through the air majestically like a baton and flip is it's almost like spiking a football Pablo AIDS Celera Tori gesture and as you know. This is something that is taboo. In the United States in major league. Baseball violates the unwritten rules and executing this maneuver will often result in a hitter. Getting next time he's up but in Korea. Backflips are not only accepted. There are also extremely common. That was yes. Our Own Mina cards describing a unique feature of baseball in Korea. The Korean baseball starts it season today as one of the only pro leagues on earth playing amid this pandemic and you'll be able to watch those games on ESPN. So since you might just see. K B O Player flip is bat. I asked me to be a guest on her own show to share my favorite story that she has ever written on why Korean players love to flip their bats. And how it start. I'm Pablo Torre. Tuesday may fifth this is espn daily presented by marathon. I feel insane power right now. I don't know how I feel about this. Meantime is a senior writer for ESPN and the host of this podcast ESPN daily. I am the captain. Now you will feel how I want you to feel. I think is how this works. People can't see this but Pablo was doing the thing where he points his fingers at his eyes and then he's pointing them at my eyes and it's it's very upsetting. So how did the story which I love so much? Actually come about what it was. I think the spring or early summer of two thousand sixteen which is important because we are coming off of the two thousand fifteen. Mlb playoffs whereas. I'm sure you will remember Joey. Batista flipped his Bat. Which feels almost like. I'm understanding what he did after a home run in the AL between the Blue Jays and the Texas Rangers and there were much hand wringing and commentary debate as a result of that critics called the Bat Slip Disrespectful. Not only to the opposing pitcher. Button the game in general if I were a player I wouldn't do that. The fact that a matter is what he did did not offend you. Just don't sit. There is flip your badge especially in the seventh inning but throughout this time and before that there were these videos of backflips coming from Korea. Right ed where Korean baseball players were flipping their bats do as defiantly as Batista and with great joy and style and panache. These videos had gone viral social media. Just so I started looking to a little bit. There's a it was an account on twitter. A website called my K B O. Run by a Korean American guy named Dan Kurtz and so he was sending them out and then they would go. Viral asked him how he got into it. He used to live in Korea. He was huge B O. Fan Korean baseball organization. But then I asked him okay. So why why are they so common in Korea? Why is this normal there? Why our guys not getting drilled in the head and? He didn't know and super intrigued by that. So I got in touch with another Korean baseball expert commentator for the O named Daniel Kim who is based in Korea and he had so many great stories about that flips and what not they there and how they were so common but he also didn't know why or where it started and he told me you should just come here and figure it out. So that's what I did so you actually go to Korea and this. I remember I remember it sounding like one of the great expense report boondoggles ever but you actually go to Korea with Mickey and your story begins in Bussan right and so what you're actually find when you travel across the ocean and get there so we went to Poussin which is extremely large seaside city on the southern tip of South Korea so they have a very popular team the low tae giants and the first thing we do. Is We go to a game at the stadium and it was revelatory cream. It is just crazy crowds. They're much younger than American crowds and they are cheering and dancing and going nuts. And they're they're drinking beer. I guess that's also different. They're all these events. There are cheerleaders cheer master and they're standing on a platform and it is just so much fun. There's an American Fan Mickey and I met at the first game that carry my her and he told us. Mlb is like opera and K B O is like rock and roll so were there and we're having a great time and all of a sudden this player who we. I'd seen before because I had seen of backflips name was Choi Jin Sook and public. He is enormous. That's just the only way to describe is an enormous? He would be so he comes out and his song is Elmo Maceo shots just were not I remember that
The Poetry Magazine Podcast
Gerald Stern reads Torn Coat
"This week. We spoke Oke with Gerald Stern in New York City. Stern says he's been writing poetry for thousand years. When people see how old I am? They say are visual writing. Are you kidding technically. It's been eighty three years. He started writing at the age of twelve. The poem torn in coach. which you are about to hear borrows the phrase from Joyce who borrowed the phrase from one of these ups fables? The aunt worked all summer summer saving food. For the winter. The grasshopper lean disalvo spit. Tobacco had a good time came to winter in the aunt had plenty to eat and the grass out for head. Nothing the grasshopper begs is the anti give him food. And the ant says no Joyce's concept in Finnegans wake was a great hct. Hernan will expecting expecting grace to befall him from the grace of God or whoever gives grace so joyce renamed the animal a grace hopper oper. Here's Gerald Stern reading. The poem torn coat recorded his to have forgotten the torn coat of Vicky Zamora Korea from Puccini's La. boheme enter. Remember the other coats for Mao Torre on down and look what it is to give your own code away three times now and to walk shivering in three different countries countries of tears. The opportunity in tears for a horse all bone on hillside without a blanket in him laughing at me because there were no tears left for freezing grace hct. I don't know how to explain this but sometimes reading poems that come in a word just leaps out at you and Dan you never for you now. You never forget the word but you never forget where you I sort of thought about it and and I think most people not to give things away or says them terribly of the but when you get to the end of the home in you see grace hopper as a word you think it's Typo in thank. Thank my colleagues here kept querying. Let's racer but when I saw it I just the Joyce didn't come to mind. I'll be honest but I knew I knew. A grace hopper is a perfect thing to have come into existence if it isn't already there and so you know the poem had me with the very last word I mean what comes before is lovely and I'm very fond of this palm but I think it had be at grace oper. Yes in. It's a great gift. That a poem can give you a a word or a phrase that just sort of lodges itself and there's you know I'll be looking around wherever I go now for Grace Sir grace home and I and I think one or two. Yes yeah it does it. It really startles you sort of at that ending. Yeah it makes you just make your way all the way up the palm again and just looking to how we got there. It's a one-sentence in this poem. It's it's really moving and turning towards that culmination and man. There's so many coats in the wrong and I ages started thinking about all the coats that we know. I mean not only the ones that are listed here like the Puccini coat but Josephine is many colored coat. And even you know Yates's code and I made my song. Coat covered with embroideries out evolve mythologies it's like that's part of what's going on in this poem as well but it also seems to me it's taking some of of these coats out of their mythological mantles an into this moment of generosity. Right look what it is is to give your own code away three times now and to walk shivering in three different countries. And I think it's just so hard to talk about an act of kindness like that without it being a sort of shall we say virtue signaling or something like that and one of the one of the ways that this poem really distances itself from. That seems to me as using the you rather than the I if we assume that maybe the I actually did these things. And and also that repetition of look what it is you know look what it is to have forgotten the torn code in the Puccini Opera. And look what it is to give your our own code away. And there's a kind of parallelism about that in which forgetting in giving away seem to be laterally positioned there there and I really appreciated that about this poem. Because it's it's about so much I mean it's about the presence and sort of symbolic mobility of some of these coats in poetry and in the Old Testament and in you know sort of their all of these again all of these codes but then also there. Are these acts of kindness. That can happen as we're told three times now and speaker of the poem doesn't really fully say that he in this case gave his coat away but just look what it is to give your own code away so it becomes. The coat becomes transformed into something that can actually help to warm a real living person Jason or a horse who was all bones on hillside without a blanket. I love the way this poem made all of that happen. It's a short poem home. And the texture of it is very complex complexly woven the title of course is torn coat and yet when you get through that part about that tears. Here's for the opportunity tears for horse. It's sort of tears. Tears happening somehow there and when you think of torn born coat you're liable to think of a coat that's been in use for a long time or as experienced like its owner Sir hardships. You know it's torn and there's sort of an interesting interesting kind of thing that happens when you realize that you've been describing. The poem is about. It's about many things but if you give your own code oh two way then you go back to is like was it torn off. You know you you gave it away. What kind of coat was it? Well it could be any kind of co because there are so many precedents. Yes yes as a as a kind of covering is very eerie. Because you have to think about so many in different kinds of things simultaneously. You have to think about all these coats you have to think about. You know most people are capable of generosity. One if you give a code away you might do that once Twice three times. That's a Lotta coat giving away that's right and it's it's like at the same time the landscape in which this occurs sort of move salon from like the kind of culture urban world of the the opera to mount hor on down all the way down. And then you're left with this horse all bone on a hillside in you have to think about the freezing Graham because ultimately if you encounter a freezing grace hopper can you give it a coat. What is the right coat for freezing grace hopper so there are many gifts given their eater in this palm but most of them are kind of questions that have no oh answers you sort of have to peel off meaning for yourself the way? The poem describes peeling off
MLB's Torre says "right call" on dispute interference
"Read don't Homer part of a five RBI night in a seventy two Washington when in Houston and the home run came after heated controversy that ending with the nationals trade Turner was called out for interference leading to a long delay and potentially costing gnats a big getting MLB executive Joe Torre's later said it was the right call but manager Dave Martinez was ejected after the inning while arguing
Patriots To Adjust Tom Brady's Contract; Add $5M In Incentives
"Years and speaking of Jimmy Garoppolo who is now the second highest paid quarterback in football behind Kirk, cousins Tom Brady's got a new. Contract some additions on. There it's a five million dollars in incentives to go on with that fourteen million dollar based. Salary why the hell do you have to give Tom Brady incentives as this is stuff that drives me nuts about football. Visible that's. Awesome with the, cap you can Manipulated by doing by, putting. An incentives like this is ridiculous I'm, sorry I mean you've, got to figure out a way to not do this this, guy has been here almost twenty years I think. You kind of know what he's done and what he's going to continue to, do what I know but died yesterday floated the story that in practice it was shaking his arm that maybe he's not quite right hasn't looked great in training camp and maybe. By not, appearing at the voluntary OTA's it's catching up to him and practice has been kind of disjointed right two days off a day on Brady gets his birthday off so they're not up. To the, speed that they normally are but. This guy you have to give him. Incentives you're looking at like it's a slap in the face to Brady were really it's a way to manipulate the cap is not a slap, in the face of this is. A way to manipulate. The castle is so is the incentives you don't have to I I this is why I. Also think that you should almost take the quarterback salaries out of the salary cap because they're going to make so much. Money and. You have to, pay quarterbacks Get the best quarterback the Brady white sign it because I'm sure it's fine I'm just looking at it to someone that admires the guy when I. See incentives, for player like that I'm like that's what's wrong with football okay but it's a way to manipulate that's all it is yes I've heard that a couple times already you're trying to Federal case again into making a federal case because here's a guy again I remember, remember when Joe. Torre left the New York Yankees they said okay we're going to we're going to give you. A contract but we're. Going to, have some incentives in there you'll make a half a million dollars. If you win the American League east you'll, make. Another half a million if you. Win the American League and he's. Pretty, much said, damn, all, set, I've, earned, my right that. I don't need to have incentives incentives for people that aren't motivated this guy is, motivated God forbid the, patriots do something that's smart for the rest of the. Team they after just all bowed out Tom Brady whatever Tom Brady them for seventeen years Basim bow down. To them, recently well it's no no. No. No no no that's not true. You know this job. Because, of their west Welker contract and he's. Taken pay cuts Yeah so they should do, its best to the teams Except for Tom Brady and not give him things that help the cap and just give him the guaranteed money and then tied. To the cat because they realize what they should. Do they. Didn't keep his one of his favorite receivers Danny amendola he's. Bringing in, wide receivers that looked like they were. Retired I mean Eric decker looked like, he? Was retired he was hanging out with his wife right and now he's coming back and they're going to try. To see if he can make something out of himself teams that screw, themselves over are the teams that do whatever the hell the players all the, time and give them all the money that. They. Want and that don't care about is not true The Vikings done that and giving Kirk. Cousins biking's aren't aren't gonna win a championship
Long Island, Bernie and Salvation Army discussed on Len Berman
"The super bowl champion eagles from their scheduled white house visit today the team was supposed to meet with the president but he rescinded the invitation reportedly because the full team would not come it what trump speculates would have been a move to protest his stance against players standing for the national anthem during games fans are mixed on a matter just because players don't want to go your other players did want to go it's wrong to cancel it a lot of them probably weren't going to go anyway not is not going to happen city hall protests planned today over the mayor's plan to change the admission policy at the city's elite high schools wants to phase out the standardized tests required to get into the schools over the next three years and set aside forty five percent of the seats for black and hispanic students where so many talented kids who are black and latino who will never under the current system see the inside of a specialized high school alice stacked in rossini's seven ten wwl wire tight security at the new rochelle high schools day after a threat to shoot up the school there will be safety sweeps and bag searches officials say they know who made the threat is not being considered credible dome and arraignment today for harvey weinstein there's no surprise here defense attorney ben breath minutes telegraphed how harvey weinstein will plead to charges of rape and forcible criminal sex act mr weinstein will enter a plea of not guilty since a grand jury handed up an indictment weinstein is has been accused by yet more women in a civil lawsuit of rape and other acts of sexual assault weinstein has consistently denied nonconsensual sexual encounters aaron katersky abc news new york former yankee manager joe torre calling for the new york legislature to legalize sports wagering betting on sports could begin this weekend in new jersey after the supreme court cleared the way at the moment new jersey's not giving the sports leagues a cut of the revenue baseball officials suggest that they get a quarter of a percent in each bed in new york saying without the game there would be no bad our news brought to you by the salvation army donate your us vehicle today call eight hundred essay truck or visit essay trucks dot org fan for traffic with bernie fighter joe good morning big problems on long island if you're traveling in smithtown one.