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222: Preparing For Life After Torey Krug & What Is The Future Of Jake DeBrusk w/ Conor Ryan

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222: Preparing For Life After Torey Krug & What Is The Future Of Jake DeBrusk w/ Conor Ryan

"This is September 8th in this is the Bruins peed on Ceylon s media and welcome back to the Bruins. Beat down the honest media. My name is Evan Miller. I hope you guys are having a fabulous week this week on Bruins beat. We are discussing Bruins exit interviews. Usually a very depressing time because usually it's we're doing exit interviews. Then we enter into a long summer of nothing now, we're entering into a fall of potentially nothing the season supposed to start November 17th, at least for training camp. It's a tentative start which is always a very bad sign when it says tentative because it's probably not going to be when it starts and there's most I think Gamers. September 1st, whatever it is. We really don't know what this offseason holds except for the fact. It's probably going to be pretty freaking crazy. And if if he's exit interviews have showed you anything. It is that it is going to be freaking crazy. And so, Ryan from Boston Sports journal and I discussed all the eggs interviews, especially to recruit because I think he's done here. But but I've had a change of heart on Torey Krug residing in Boston. So you'll get a different perspective which I think you'll you'll you might come around to you might give me crap for it. You might say Evan you're insane, but I think it's something different and I think it's something you're going to have to get used to because it's going to probably happen. I know we're just getting to some other team related things before we get into the conversation. The wait is finally over and not for the first B conversation. That'll be in a second. But football is back. 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What's going on with you having a beautiful Labor Day full full labor day were talking about this just before we came on. It's not like your typical Labor Day college classes are still dead. In the schedule, you are your high school classes today. They still they still happening. Yeah, you know, it's online only it's it's a pain in the ass algebra. You know, I'm not yeah, hopefully I go into journalism a further on you know my life. So hopefully this is a thing of the past is Alexandra, but you know what we'll get through it. Yeah. I hope I hope if you ever need help with algebra. You let me know. I got you on some of the some of the X Y and Z type stuff funny. I haven't done math in so long. So why do you think why do you think we majored in journalism fast like a god part of life as the thing like it's funny. I wish I could go back and tell my middle school and high school self when I was, you know, just struggling through math classes and staying up until like, you know one am stuck up for you know, an algebra or geometry test like hey buddy, it's going to be okay. You're never going to do this. Anyways, yeah get the gentleman's be and move on but God. Obviously that's sort of the fun of being a kid. You don't know we're going to go into but look at us. So Bruins lot of stuff exit interviews were last week. I think Sweeney is going to suck some point this week. I would assume nearly as well. There was a lot to take away. First of all, it was fun because all the interviews were like on one day. So there was just a marathon one after the other after the other after the other from you know, The Rustic reach you to pastrnak David krejci bringing up that on Friday that he was angry at reporters for not asking him questions after the game. That's part of why he gave such a depressing answer about the organization was obviously because he was mad about asking not us as I am not asking him questions. How did we not know? I know really dropped the ball there. I can't tell if it's just like I think I think that's the classic very dry sense of humor from David crazy, which is like also hard to land a job. Over a zoom call especially and it's hey exactly. Exactly. Yeah, the funny thing was there was a moment this year at a practice. I think it was like in January might have been we walked in a locker room back in the day. Remember those times to walk in. Yeah, we walked in and it was Char and Marshawn off and everyone went to Marshawn and being like three other reporters went to chora chora immediately got really angry about like the whole thing. I he goes from each of us. He lets us eat just a question cuz he he met he goes okay you for you can ask all the questions. So we just asked questions a reporter comes up who was not in the initial scrum. Amy looks to them and just says no and just walks away like nearby. So it is the thing. I think players do get like very self-conscious when they you guys available and no one's talking to them, especially if you're entering like you're karson Kuhlman and you're going at the same time. Brent Marshawn, right, you know, you know, you're lucky to get asked a question but Marsh but you know Chara and Marshawn guitars bit of a veteran. So there were lots of eggs interviews what stood out to me was the Tory crew stuff obviously, you know, it's been a few days to process this. I've always been a big re-signed Torey Krug guy. I've always been in that camp throughout the season. I was totally for life, you know, especially before covid-19 cap was going to probably go up, you know. Hey, let's do the Bruins have the the the Cafe's, you know, re-sign the guys the leader. He's Dynamic on the opposite side of things all that fun life, but I'd be kind of getting a change of feeling lately and this doesn't even just from the comments made this past week, but you know Bruins stats tweeted out some stuff about how crew really isn't a potent five-on-five most of his offensive most of his face off from the office of Zone. He's somewhat sheltered the Bruins don't have a lot of space. You also saw in the postseason. They didn't you know accrued was good not great, especially five-on-five. I think he was on the ice for the most five on five goals allowed and you also look at their depth you look at you know, defensively they weren't super great. Maybe it is time to move on from Tori crew. Maybe it's not the right. I don't at this moment. I don't think it's a stupid thing to move on and invest that money in other places. Not just one place. Yeah. No, I mean I'm think I'm kind of in the same boat. Now if you know, we're looking back at February when you think the one everything was normal and the fact that you know, the cap was supposed to jump up anywhere from I think like eighty four eighty eight point two million. So I mean that's in between. You know, the Bruins are looking pretty good. Especially the fact that they cut all that, you know, extra cab with David Backes, you know, moving most of his money off the books. He stayed about a million with you know, behind and Richie trade which that would have been at least one caveat out of the way that trade can imagine out and then even like I think, you know, they're getting valesky's deferred money off the books. They were getting with the final hit of side and Berg's bio off the books like they were looking pretty good job. Like they could have legitimately added like another piece or two just through free agency without really having to take a long look at a guy like crew who's kind of the biggest, you know, you know shoe to drop this off season, but now you look at it, you know, they're they're dealing with fat you look at the way this window of this team is like, all right, if Krug walks, yeah, there's some things you have to address right like back in the locker room. He's a key a key theme song. Our team has kind of that bridge in between, you know, that veteran core and like this, you know, growing pool of younger players like McAvoy and off, you know, Chris like the Brusque, you know, all those guys like he he's very key in that room is being kind of that, you know, the first guy you go and talk to you know, I think he mentioned once that, you know, it's dead. Sometimes these rookies are young guys come in like all right. Do I go up to cedeno Chara after no media apps and a question, you know and ask them something or do I talk to like Tori Cruise 2020 job? And you know little bit easier to connect to it kind of a guy like that who still has been in the league for a long time. So, you know losing him in that regard, you know is a hit so but I mean, he's still God step franchise kind of those cornerstones and that dressing room. You still got you know guys, like coil and Corelli and Wagner's kind of that new kind of bridge, you know in between those kind of groups, but I think you look at the other areas of you know, where you can improve and where you can kind of keep moving on without crude. Like I think the power play you're still going to have a pretty solid they you know, you know good probably great power play, right? You know where you still got those pieces up front you put in macros luluc in that role who may not be as Dynamic but you know, even if you kind of keeps it simple. He's just, you know on the blue line, you know recovering products getting to loose pucks sending them back, you know down to March and or Bergeron or something like that, you know, you got who also has improved in his shock Club. It so, you know, he's not like he's not going to be a threat from you know, the high slot, you know firing shots. Um, I think you know, you can still kind of soldier on without them. I think the biggest challenge is just finding a you know, a top floor guy that can at least log, you know twenty minutes, you know, at least give you something like as you said, I think you know five-on-five play which is what they really have to improve crew really wasn't as dynamic as you know, you know clearly not as much on the power play but you just need a guy like crew can you know play 20 minutes capability because I don't think you can go into next year expecting, you know, oh, well just put in John Moore or something like that will put in you know, maybe her whole back nine is ready, which doesn't seem like whoa, get off line up. I mean, yeah, you're right you're and it's funny. You mentioned the the power play with Grizzly compared to groom not granted. 51 Broome stats treated us five power-play groups looking pasta. Only again 72 minutes time on Ice goes for over 60 of 12.3 crugen pot Chrome strike. Oprah's like obviously a lot more time calls for ten point across from 460 to 10.3. So to me, you add all those and you also add in the fact that cruise contract is not going to be like four years again. They're not going to get away with giving this guy another for you Jule. This guy wants cashier and he's right. He should cash in I I think crude absolutely one-hundred-percent deserves a long-term deal. I just don't think it's in the Bruins best interest to do that or to be that team. I think that's for like a Red Wings. I think that's going to be the team that ultimately scoop them up, but you're going to have that deal for you know, let's say seven or eight years the deal for for that amount of time. As we're seeing now in a big topic obviously is this veteran core your cream cheese your version runs. Your marshawn's your chars. Your Rask's don't have a lot of time left. We. Charl was done now he is he is dead. But you you you don't you have a limited window I would say about maybe to potentially three years with Bergeron. Krejci. It means says your suggestion. After that, what is your future, you know, we'll get later in the show get to the younger guys start hitting that, you know when they're going to kind of start to come through. But if you're if you're rebuilding or retooling about four or five years and you still have an eight-year eight million dollar deal from Torey Krug on your on your contract on your on your books. Who's 34 35 years old. I mean, you're not going to want that like that. We're look back and go especially if they don't want a cup like let's say resign up to an eight year eight million dollar deal and they don't win the cup with him then it's like well, this was a bust. What was the point of this month? So and it already isn't looking like they're going to be winning the cup next year or the year after they'll contend but it's hard to sit here and say, you know, they'll definitely do it unless they take Cruise money back and retool. So again, you could you know, I was looking at. I'm not an expert on these free agent defensive and but someone like TJ Brodie out in Calgary or or Sammy botman is a good option as well Brenton Dylan song, you know, you could also take some money to three million dollars put it in the bottom six find a good solid third-line left-winger for Charlie Coyle or or or maybe this is kind of a crazy idea find someone if it's better with David. Krejci. Don't really would that be praising strategy. The most bold but so in Kasha might fit there who knows watch Kasha come back next year in school. Like forty goals. It won't be like, oh my God, look at look at what the pros were missing last year. Yeah, but I I do think that it is and I think you're seeing a shift among Bruins fans and longer as media because I think we all were on the re-signed to recruit train. And then I mean again, I think I said this to you before the poor guy, you know, always one year deal when your deal for your deal his payday comes around and the league decides to do a flat cap. So I think you'll still get it. I think it'll be with the Red Wings but would have been nice to see him stay off Austin. Definitely one of the better players to cover. Yeah, definitely one of the more fun, you know talks and just a good tour groups of good guy. Yeah. No, I mean he's you know, whatever he gets in in free agency, you know, whether it be here or anywhere else. We kind of well-deserved for again. As you said a guy who you know comes in with a chip on his shoulder as an undrafted free birth. You know excels, you know in his role, you know gets through Providence because the Bruins are so cash-strapped, you know, they can only only offer him a one-year deal and sometimes another one-year deal and then like trying to keep a day and it's kind of like this bridge four year 5.25 million when I'm sure like ideally he'd want to be re-upped long-term. So I think that's going to be the biggest issue with the Bruins not really off the cap hit per year. Like they can still tools retool some things if they wanted to get him under the cap, especially if he takes, you know a a discount of you know, 77.5 or something like that but needs more gloss the term, right? Cuz the Bruins probably would be like it will will give you you know, 7 7 and 1/2 but you know, it's a four year deal or something like that and you know galat Kam who's been, you know going with those kind of you know bad term contracts for four years now like it's time for him to you know, deservedly get that, you know, seven eight year deal like he's he's he's earned it and like that dude's been one of the best job. No offense or defense in the league for years now. Yeah, and that's the thing and and he hears a family man. He's got a young daughter a wife just a good guy and it's time for me to get paid. I mean, I'm totally with him on Thursday. I just don't think it'd be the Bruins to do it. And I don't think they should either as we've said the past few minutes. So now they're exit interview take me will kind of hit on this quickly cuz I think obviously it happened on Thursday. We're recording this Monday is we have Tuesday. Chara wants to stay says don't know why that question was asked me five minutes after I didn't really feel like answering it then even though. Camera crew much eulogized after the game. I think that was kind of what set the stage. I don't think I think we were all kind of like maybe it's his last game and then emmerich just kind of goes on this diatribe of like, you know, well if you give me one minute and just you know goes off about chora but he's probably going to say I know we both think this keep him sign off. What is the what's the downside? What's the downside to this? And what's the other options? You have? No other options. Yeah, I mean, I think that's the biggest key is just being realistic of one what name is expectations for the role would be next year. If you bring them back and to just what are your options not because let's say Troy Krug walks and you know Tara wants to come back on a one-year job at one point five million, you know dog contract and you say no for some reason like, all right. Well, who who'd you rolling out there then like all right you bump up course like next to McEvoy which you know, how long is an intriguing pairing but then who else you rolling out there like, you know, it's you know, it's John more going to be your second pairing guys. He the guy you want to be playing twenty-plus minute Thursday night, you know, so yeah is it, you know, everyone I think always is quick to point you back at 9 and but again, like maybe he comes back and has a strong training camp, but it seems like his kind of dog. Almonds, either kind of stalled or you know, it's taking a little bit of a step back over the last you know year or so, you know, Jacob sboros the guy who I think obviously gets kind of worked on in terms of you know, his draft status wage. It seems like he's a guy who maybe has turned a corner like jail each mentioned back in May when we talked to him that he thought he was the best defenseman down the stretch and I think it's immoral even was like maybe the last defenseman cut during training camp. Like I feel like he outplayed back during that stretch. So but again, even if maybe he's ready to make that breakthrough, if next year's the year you want to go for it. Do you want to roll out like a Galaxy phone know who you know is a late bloomer and you don't really know what you get from him yet. And again, like you're you know, you're going to hear this whole offseason about how the Bruins you know, I mean, it's all different they you know ways of thinking but you're going to hear like they gotta get tougher. They gotta get someone who's, you know bigger or something like that? All right. Well recognized and to borrow who are like what maybe six feet 61161. Yep. Make a difference too. I thought he was wasting wow, it's too but he's also I think when you watch him play, he's not like a guy known for being like a physical kind of guy right like, oh no so often those going to be your options there. It's like, all right. Well, you could make things somewhat easier for yourself cuz you already going to be busy dealing with hopefully adding a guy to the top six or you know, gotten third one way up to find the replacement for crew a guy like that whose blogs was kind of minutes like aren't make things easy if we cells and get bring back charger on a one-year deal with like the little risk as a Thursday hearing guy like you put him in a minimized roll. He's probably going to really help you out there, especially if he's not going to cost you that much against the cap. Yeah, you know what they're going to do. They're going to put Zach senyshyn on crazies right size. So he plays with Jake debrusk and they're going to put Jacobs bar-ilan the second pairing and then dead. 2015. Swings and be proven right again. 2015 draft was actually a huge success things are going to bring back Jacob Francesca. Kalson, and I think he could be a guy fees for Shimano blonde. They might even bring back Zach Hamill and see what they got it in him on for the fourth one know I can't even make his name was that was so bad Jab Tak him one. That was so long ago. At least I wasn't Sweeney, but we beat this like a dead horse. We have beat this and the submission but I will say this offseason if if there's ever been an off season 2 proves why the 2015 draft was a spectacular miss it is this one because it is this one because your objective or who has been extremely inconsistent been but out of the three has been by far the best. Oh like the rug has been fine. I mean, he just inconsistent but not pales in comparison to your two other prob. From that those three first-round picks if you hit on one of those others, you might have a top-six right where if you would on one of those others, you might have a top four or five. To defenseman like it is incredible to me that that was sort of the moment to do that. And in fact what draft was back in night in 2017 or 17 years. Yeah fifteen was McEvoy. Yeah. So 17 was back in night. So you have that you've that so your five first-round picks in three years and you hit on two of them off that is horrendous, but and that's the thing and so you're seeing what happens. I remember I had asked out once tell me that when a team does bad drafting. You can teams you teams that are bad. You can go back five years and look at their drafts and see if they were good or bad in. Typically, they're bad and you're starting to see that with the Bruins their their home going to be it's like it's like a team that peach in high school. It's like they're holding on to those memories those older guys. Come on one more run. We're just one more run and it would be so much easier if if those draft picks for hit on now, I know we beat we talked with us all the time and we will never stop talking about so we'll always talk about this but it's a real thing. It's a legit thing and it's you're seeing it now if if there's a moment when you're seeing it now sweet, he's not a lot of good things, you know coil a lot of those fourth lines signings have been great lack, but you've been great with a lot of things but that draft and took his first one so it's tough to like, you know, it kind of gets thrown in there and you know, they trade Lucci Patrick Dougie Hamilton Dougie, but it's still I I just I look at that draft. Thanks, man. What could have been so we briefly mentioned it but I think this huge regrets. I can McAvoy in their own rights. You've crystallic potentially could be sitting top power-play minutes you McEvoy who could also see some top power-play minutes. You've McEvoy potentially playing without Chara and playing with grzelcyk on the top pairing. Which would I mean a c when they're out there. I mean, they're basically fluto shinzawa Road this it racing each other up the ice, which is great to see you don't see that with McEvoy means a Chara You saw that it be you together granted that was you know, a hundred years ago now controlled. I really appreciate it. But what what's in store with them? What's going to happen? I mean, I think you look at you know, we viewed McEvoy few years. Now. It's kind of that next guy up. The guy is going to be your franchise defenseman. And I think next year is going to be his biggest opportunity to kind of show show off and she's obviously seen in flashes and I think a guy like McAvoy, you know feels like especially in its first few years you would see, you know game where he's obviously still kind of, you know rounding out his Oddball game, but you'd see a game every once in a while where he just takes over we gotta go man. Like this is the guy you could get you know in a couple of years from now that that would be like his, you know his regular kind of game and I think you know, you see when he's really locked in like I I point to that game five against the Tampa. I mean he gets knocked knocked out of the game comes back and like that over time and he was everywhere he was you know pushing The ice like you still being responsible, you know in Boston Zone Zone like you just do a little bit of everything and I think that shows you when he's given another, you know, defensive pot annoyed Griz like who also you know quick on his skates Can it can move the puck, you know, they're both really good and transition but Chris like especially as kind of that first pass guy out to start to break out like, you know, those guys suck really Dynamic together and I think especially wherever they might be given a little bit more leeway to work in the offensive zone. I think that's going to be key because as Cassidy kind of mentioned when he talked to us on Wednesday, they need more 5 and 5 offense and a lot of that, you know, it's not just the four words like the else you need difference make it more involved or at the very least just you know, increase their shot volumes like home how many of those goals from Tampa during this past series were deflections or you know tips or rebounds from your shots from the high slot of the point like The Bruins need more of that and I think you know you get McEvoy shoot more which is kind of been the one issue with him over the last couple of years. Whereas like as much as every time I think was like scores ago. He always mentions posting that took his shots not good but like his shot has gotten a lot better since like, you know, especially when she first arrived so I think you know those guys you put em together at 5 on five. I think on the power play Bakugan, you know, I would imagine that grips it gets the first crack at that out the top power-play unit. So and you know again McEvoy you give him more minutes, you know, maybe who knows Jack Cassidy does it maybe he decides to be more conservative and balance it out and puts, you know, two defensemen on the top power-play unit and try that or they could also just overload again and you know, it's at our place saw during the postseason words you had crazy up there and kind of go all in like there's opportunity for both those guys to one get more minutes get more, you know offensive zone time, especially in five-on-five and if you know your own name, I'll play like it's Christmas power-play one, you know quarterback that guy could add another ten fifteen points to his point total You Know the Way That Power Play operate just from secondary. You know, how may we assist you in defeating the plug back in London guys go to work. So I think it's going to be a big opportunity for both those guys and you know, it's a different look and as much as you know, people say the bridge need to get bigger, I think if you add you know long as I think you mentioned a few guys but like a friend Dylan or Joel Edmundson or one of those guys as kind of a bigger option down there and you roll it that top pairing it may not be the biggest but it could be either one of the more Dynamic top parents in a league. It gives you a different wrinkle to to your team how you you know, go about 5 and 5 offense. And again, these are the guys you want to invest in going full, you know, you have to build that next kind of, you know wave of talent and I think you roll with guys like, you know, McEvoy and girls like you can you know, I think the potential is there for them to be a dog Every day, you know top pairing, you know group especially in kind of today's NHL. Yeah, and I also think macevoy should get a shot of power play one. I've always liked him on the PowerPlay. Also, I didn't cast his choice, which I think he's I think that's going to be a work-in-progress all year. Just sort of find what works with those two guys and works with the power play. So I think it's big for both of them. I think you're going to see jump off points for both of them. Certainly that you're going to see cuz back over was their best defensive in the postseason don't think that you can really disputed. I don't think there's anybody else we've really came close eye brows look at times. So my boss asked topic. I want to get to an actual you mentioned it with the 2015 draft. When will Jake debrusk figure it out? When will Jake debrusk cuz he said he mentioned the other day the rod ups and downs. He still I think he said he was one goal off 20 goals. So we did have that way. I look at the breasts game. I just feel this warm. I feel there's more especially working with a guy like krejci, you know, there's more to it and I just don't think I'm there yet and I feel like every year we say this now Grant he's only been here for three years. So it's not like this guy has been here for 6 and we're going when is this guy going to cash? In fact, he's been for three but he's entering a time in which the Bruins are really going to start to rely on him even more like I don't think there's a lot of room for him anymore to get two motives of third pair to the 3rd line off or you know to get benched or to get healthy scratch. He's got to figure it out at some point and I think this upcoming year is really his tests and sort of his And especially with the contract coming up, you know, I mean if it lets the past three years, let's say he's you know Thirty goal scorer you hand him a long-term deal or at least six years in the thirty million range. It gets $5 a year. I don't think he gets above three and half now I know hags was suggesting using to get six. I was like what he's not getting in know. I mean that was one to worry agents of that and like listen that's the problem is Agents water pump in his diet is so but he's yeah, but so that's why when I see, you know debrusk, it's like I think here's here's upcoming contract what they give him as an RFA is really going to be approved me deal, you know, I think they're going to give him two to three years. 3 3 and 1/2 and say look, you gotta go out there and prove that you're worth five six top six money. When does he figure it out? Well, I think for the Bruins you hoping it's next year. Once again, it's not even the you know, the biggest thing is obviously just the offensive generation of how kind of inconsistent is cuz he'll go on a stretch read, you know has you know one primary system no goals for nine games and all of a sudden he then he buries five vowels and like three games, right? So that's kind of the biggest issue because when he's capitalizing on those chances, I mean you see how potent that second line can become right just having a gal like that but I also think it just for him. It's just the overall kind of performance of you know, in terms of that inconsistency cuz you know, I kind of look at a guy like Andre, obviously ran out of gas kind of especially like doing V, like I think he was he probably played as a worst game and that game five and he was almost frigging fool with wind and that game but I think you saw especially knowing that catalog. Series and maybe in game one against Tampa even if he wasn't burying his chances like that guy was buzzing Around the Net right? Like he was still winning Puck battles. He was generating grade eight shots, you know, bring himself up a spot for Galaxy to find him and get a good shot off and it seems like when you know, the process is in kind of one of those funks that he has like, it's sometimes you kind of don't even notice them in the game. Right? Like it song He's you know, a lack of effort. He's not doing anything out there just seems like he's on impact in the game and some positive way. I think so it burns you just need something like that like again look at that third line of, you know coil Buick and Sydney can gain 5 I didn't they didn't score but like you notice them right like they were extended AutoZone time. They were covering pucks doing all those kind of things home. So I think you know, I think just need more of that for the Press gets very least. Cuz if you just bring that kind of game consistently, you know, you sent ozone time, you're paired with a guy like crazy in, New Jersey. Here, you know maybe it's Kasha again and sets bearing those chances or they go get another legitimate toxics guy. Like, you know, he's got the pieces around him that he should be a guy who consistently scores m t v. You know, he I mean, you know, what's good Thirty, you know, he would have scored Thirty last year if he you know, he just had a little bit of a longer, you know hot streak or his saddle A Little Bit Stronger. So I think you just need that kind of consistent performance of him or his he's at least you know, when Puck battles and extending those own time and those kind of things because you need a guy who you can at least know what you're going to take at most nights, right? Cuz you guys can have you know, some of these structures there are five plus games where he's kind of a non-factor, especially now where you know, these These are the veterans get an older you need to change our first legs like depressed just you know, being a more consistent president, especially in a top-six role where the Bruins need some consistent guys next to krejci. That's it. It's dead. You just need that consistency and not the streakiness and Castillo was mentioned it, you know his streaky guy, you know, maybe he's getting hot now that's always kind of playing the maybe game with him. And I feel like this upcoming season is you just said it's sorta going to be his big test and sort of really figure out where he is at least in his development. What is Future's with the Bruins? Cuz I'm going to give a ton of money if he's not going to produce. Well, especially next week. I like, you know, you're playing with David krejci and create, you know, and you hope that this isn't you know, that the rust we haven't seen the best of dabros just like scratchy but I think there's a lot more to give when I think we're proud see that this coming year Conor. Thank you for joining us. Always. Is there anything you'd like to plug Before? I Let You Go. Yeah. I mean, I think as you said we should have some interesting Zoom calls this week with you know, Don song. Hopefully and Neely and a lot of I think that will get it will say but a lot of interviews, I think that should shed some light on, you know, maybe setting expectations or the general month. Outlook of how they're kind of viewing which should be a pretty key offseason for this group in terms of determining whether you know, how many more cracks of a cup they have and you know how they kind of plan for the future cuz they need to make some big moves. I think this offseason just retool on the fly. So, you know, we'll have a whole bunch of breakdowns and what to expect this offseason. You know, we've I think every single day we're going to have a dog a news story out just breaking down maybe player or a different, you know trade Target free agency all those kind of things. So follow along at Boston Sports Journal subscribe. You can follow me on Twitter at, Ryan. I'm going 93 Do that go there. Do all those things Connor as always. Thank you so much for joining and proceed on Us Media. I miss Murdock's you Bruce be listeners. Have a great rest of your week off and

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2020 NHL Notable Free Agent Signings & Trades

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2020 NHL Notable Free Agent Signings & Trades

"And and and off and and welcome back to sarcastic remarks the only Dallas Stars fan live podcast along with Chris Chambers. I'm Brian chapters. Today's episode is brought to you by cowboy. I was doing my segment and you just interrupted you didn't let me see how it so you just kind of Road. I'm going to finish it. Anyway, now today's episode is brought to you by Cowboys talk Dallas Cowboys discussion segment of the bearer of Texas podcast, Alex. Al-qazzaz AKA The Bear Texas will give his thoughts and takes of the Dallas Cowboys telling you the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth whether it's good or bad he will let you know all about America's team go and check him out. He's got a great podcast ain't going on and we are proud to be sponsored by him. Yeah, he gave a shout-out we give him a shout out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was cool. Anyways, bad Cowboys fan though. Okay. Continue. Yeah. Well, can we just let's talk about that for a second man. That poor guy sad. Okay moving on and no no. No, I got a mention more about him. He I mean he was literally on Pace to like break the passing yards record for the season and then everyone's all got all this hype about him and that he's doing really well this year and then that nasty I couldn't watch it more than once. I watched it once and then I forgot what network it was on whatever Network freaking it was on I kept replaying and replaying it and zooming in and like look at how bad this is. I'm just like dude stop so dead. Yeah, I just saw a picture of it and almost threw up. So yeah, I know it really well huge shout-out to him good luck to him and we'll be missing him for the rest of the season and I'm sure he'll come back and do just as well next season. Okay, anyways, so let's get to what we're going to talk about this evening. So we gotta Focus home. Yeah, we kind of focused in on the Stars a little bit and even from last week. It's kind of maybe I shouldn't be too concerned. But Gary and June and still have not been signed. Are you concerned at all or is that just a RFA thing? I think that's an RFP thing. I think actually happens a lot. I'm more excited about the fact that rock got signed so quickly. I think that was the bigger deal and he assigned now he is locked down and I think if we get Gary and hints like I think wage Easily will then I think the the offseason will be a success for the Stars. Yeah, and I mean we all knew that it was coming cuz he didn't file for arbitration. So long assumed that something was coming and then literally the day after we re-released the episodes like oh Fox, I signed a 5-year contract. All right, great and was just over three million which is about kind of where we expected it off lower than I thought actually so I agree with you. I have too much lower but he's still I think he could have gotten more but I'm glad he didn't take it. I think he could have gotten up to 84 million possibly depending on what seemed really needed a player of his caliber from his social media post. It seemed like he genuinely likes playing for Dallas. So I think after it's dead I don't I didn't see him going anywhere anyway, okay, so we talked about stars a little bit. I'm slightly worried about those two players, but at the same time, you know, we got a long time too. Get them figured out. What I want to talk about is some of the trades and some of the free-agent signings now that it's been a little over a week since free agency Hit Em boy was a weird with it starting on October 9th instead of July 1st, really strange. Anyways, we got a lot of signings to talk about. So I think a first player I'm going to mention in pretty obvious which was the big fish of this free-agent Market Alex pietrangelo petrol leaves the blues and he joins the golden knights with a seven-year contract 61.6 million dollars and it's an aav of about 8.8 and he gets the New Movement Claus. What do you think about that signing Christian? Good for the good for the nights. I guess they had they had they were one of the few teams that had the money still they freed up a little bit more money with some of the other trades and some of the other things they let go and I think Patricia is a great player. He should still stay great for seven more years. Like everyone's expecting him to keep playing to the caliber. He has been which has been outstanding. So it's a good signing for them over, but I don't think he ever wanted to leave Saint Louis to be honest with you, but I think it started kind of getting into his brain that he was not going to stay in Saint Louis after they went out and got Justin Faulk at the beginning of last season and they signed just default to an extension and he's kind of like, okay, where's my money going to come from if you are going to keep me and the answer is no we're right and and it didn't happen and then also on top of that. I guess that you know, they said oh, well, you know just because we signed Torey Krug. What was that? I think Chris is roommate is having a little bit too much fun out there. Anyways, I love college and now right in two ways. As Christians vs shoes across the room with the whole picture of thing after they signed Torey Krug. I think that was the end of the negotiations right there and back and say Louis came out and said, oh well just because we signed Torey Krug doesn't mean we can't sign pietrangelo to and like whatever whatever, you know, you were you were trying to get crude cuz you knew that Petra was going to go somewhere else. Yeah. Now this signing is getting a lot of heat right now, especially from Vegas which layers the Keurig one or the regular one know the other one crew. The crew one is great for for st. Louis because yeah, I think so too. They're not getting a huge caliber player like pietrangelo. Pietrangelo is a number one defenseman month, but Krug is a It's it's he's a good feeling for what they lost. Yeah. Well you get music anyway, so with pietrangelo there seems to be this thing in Vegas that it's more about business than anything, which is okay. That's fine, but they're not they're getting this like stigma Vegas has two there's not much money from the administration from the upper management to their players cuz like when they were talking about pietrangelo and getting him signed and that was the Big Bang worst kept secret for free agency. They were throwing out all these players that they were looking at about trading and eventually ended up being Nate Schmidt. They've moved out and we'll talk about that in a second and one of the trades I think that's a huge steel for Vancouver but his 5.9 million dollar cap hit got that moved out and moved up here. You Vancouver? But I mean there is like there was rumors that Pacioretty was going to be traded purchased possibly March or so, and obviously the flurry rumors were just left and right trying to get rid of them. And then also on top of that they were talking about Riley Smith possibly getting rid of him. So they've got this stigma to them. Now that Vegas is not loyal to their players home. So even though we may sign you to a three four five six year deal or whatever. You may not necessarily be here for all those years. Yeah. I took I guess is fine. But at the same time that it's giving them a bad reputation. What do you think is you think that's stupid? Yeah, I think it's stupid for the big guys. If if you're a big free-agent, you're actually worried about them moving you the NHL has this great thing but no movement Clause where they that's what petrol got so Petra got and that's what pretty much anyone who's going to sign their long-term could easily get and if you're a lousy player then you're going to be able to be moved around and that's going to happen if they can upgrade their player. They should do it like know who was the guy that they used his name the guy that yeah. No, it's the Schmidt. He's a good defenseman. He's a great man. Yeah, he's no pietrangelo. Yeah, but oh, well, let's talk about this on the flip side. So yes, obviously pietrangelo is the better defenseman over Nate Schmidt and that that's obvious. But don't you think that messes with the chemistry of the team next Met has been there from the very very beginning and he's been a big part of the reason why Vegas has been done. So well, it seems existed for three whole years. So I think there's a chemistry in the team yet like in signing a big guy that all that says to the other guys in a dressing room is dead or giving you guys to win go win. So I I understand the argument from chemistry and stuff and it's fun to think about guys playing with guys that they like to play with em, but if you're getting a better hockey player and you're still on the nights, you're happy about it. You think that guy gives you a better chance to win which I think he does then you're happy. All right. Well, that's a that's a good segment for the golden knights. I'm kind of on the opposite side of view. I kind of think that it's going to mess with their chemistry. But I think we saw that with the playoff series against the start there. There are some chemistry issues there that with all these big names that they brought in Pat ready and stolen phone and now pietrangelo and I think it's just going to screw with their screw with her chemistry a little bit. I mean it got them to the Conference finals against Jews and yet and honestly two years ago, they probably should have been in the Conference Finals or the Stanley Cup Final. Yeah, San Jose was gifted. They were gifted that Conference Final Four when you get kill penalties, aren't you know, but whatever where that's about that. Yeah talking about that then coding again. The nights have been good. For all three years, honestly, I think last last year's team was better than even the previous to even the Stanley Cup Final team. If it just hit a rough spot and play at all. But yeah, I thought the attacks you. Yeah, the Caps would not be denied that you're either. Okay, anyways, so let's go to the let's go to another free agent that was available this year Torey Krug signs with the blues at for seven years at forty five point five million dollars. So that is a significantly smaller cap hit then pietrangelo. Do you think this is a good move by the st. Louis Blues game? I love that trade by the Earth at signing by the blues. It's really it's really a good one. Cuz Krug isn't known as a bigger defenseman like Patricia. Patricia is a little bit bigger. So he's more of a well-rounded defenseman. So he's been endorsed candidate so many times but crude can make plays. So I think that's going to be a really exciting addition to a very structured blue steam heated Sparks them whenever the teams in a rut which we have seen happen multiple times. So if his team is on a long losing streak he can he give you one of the guys to pull them out of it. So I think it's a good signing. Definitely a huge discount lets you get more depth on the backend that they already have and they can keep that going. There are some really funny stuff on Twitter that was going on. So if for those of you that don't remember back in the 2019 Stanley Cup Final win state Lewis was playing against Boston College Krug really angered all of st. Louis with his big open Heights ice hit on the blue Center Robert Thomas, and there was a lot of speculation about that with monster hit that there should have been like a charging penalty or something like that. And then later on on October 9th after crude signed in in Saint Louis Robert Thomas dead posted on Twitter. He's like did we just become best friends question mark and it's got a picture of him hitting Robert Thomas. Absolutely. Awesome. I love hockey players when they do stuff like that. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Like I could very easily be still angry at crude. But like he like, okay, we got a guy you could help us win. He's happy like that. That's how hockey players work if they're getting closer to winning a Stanley Cup. They're happy right agreed. You're getting paid that too. Yeah, seriously. Okay. Now let's talk about another free agent that completely shocked everybody. I feel like Taylor Hall. Yeah, what the heck goes Cove it is right that means point. He goes to of all places of all places. He's just that really needed somebody like this to help them get their mood up and help them a little bit. He goes to the Buffalo sauber's for one year at eight million dollars, but they were doing what I don't know. I don't know. What are they doing? They don't have a team. They have a guy who they're trying to build it around and they're like, you know, we could do we just feel better about ourselves an extension Taylor Hall for one year like what are like right now? Yeah, that's what it felt. Like they did. They were like Hey Taylor Hall's willing to sign a one-year deal. Why don't we do that? It just seems so stupid like well what that tells me is that the market that Taylor Hall was expecting for himself was not there. So maybe Thursday Money was there from from certain teams, maybe several teams gave him like seven million or eight million or 6 and 1/2 or whatever but that the term was definitely not there. It's a fine deal for Hall especially worth trying to wait for next season to see if the economy gets a quick bounce back in the cap can go back up quicker than expected. Right? Like what is Buffalo doing? Yeah. I thought about that when I first heard it, I went on Melody Martin's YouTube channel, cuz she's a huge Buffalo Sabres. Buffalo Bills fan. If you haven't seen her YouTube video or her YouTube channel go check it out. She's really good and and her videos are great, but she was really confused too. But it makes a lot of sense this signing does and it makes more sense now that I've looked into it. So first of all, the one laid first first off, it's a one-year deal, right? So the bad parts that's one of the bad it's beneficial for both teams because it gets some I think the Buffalo wants it to be long-term and I think they want it to Thursday. Maybe not maybe not eight years, but definitely longer than that. But here's the the upside for Hall he gets to play for Ralph Krueger. So Ralph Krueger was his name was his coach when he was in Edmonton before he got traded to New Jersey and he felt like he learned a lot under Ralph Krueger and he liked Ralph Krueger. So that's one although what's Buffalo doing? Well, but I thought okay. Well and again, here's here's another thing for hall for Hall. It allows him to get to play with arguably one of the best centers in the game in Jack eichel. If you're Jack eichel you love this deal. This is great because you get to play with a player of arguably his same caliber in his strong talent and Superstar status and stuff like that. And you know, if you're the Buffalo Sabres then you get a year of this guy. I mean, there's no risk to it at all. I mean for the job Million dollars. Yeah, but they had the Gap they had the cap and they were like, well, you're supposed to they need to spit the cap on someone who can help Michael for more than a year. Yeah, but that's wage. I mean why not spent I mean why not spend it on a guy like Taylor Hall and convince him and convince Jack eichel that hey, we're really trying we're really trying to get to the next step and I feel really bad for Sabres fans because it that franchises just in a whack job, but then yeah their lack of em. Yeah. That's that is a very good point. They're wasting it Cycles years kind of just like Edmonton is just step Edmondson had a good year this year. They just sucked in the bubble playoffs and that's not the way for the suburbs. So I need to stop saying cybersource Neighbors. Like I just wish they would have picked up a younger guy who was a free agent who could have proven himself or even an older guy like like Clifford pick up Kyle Clifford. That's the guy who has played well in the past who could play well with Michael like there was other guys that could have played with him, but just it doesn't make sense to you Millions a lot of money for one year. So I think I think it's great. I think it's a great signing for both sides. I really do great learning for Taylor Hall and I think the Sabres are once again dumb. I mean unless they sign unless they're planning on signing him next year in like Taylor Hall gave them like Mom said that he's most likely going to do that. But like at I don't know. Well, I think it's great. I really do first think bad hot pink hot pink just left it at that Chris think bad writing good into a story. Okay? All right, and then this one's not really a free agent signing but we're just going to go ahead and mention it. Oh big surprise. Guess we re-signed with the golden knights their goaltender Robin lehner at the exact term and dollar amount that was mentioned back when he was still playing. So the the five years at twenty-five million dollars is exactly what he signs for. Good signing. Yeah. I think it's good for both of them. I mean the only person that kind of sucks for a flurry, but I think Vegas now has the second best goalie tending the league in Robin lehner and Fleury. I think Dallas is still first there, but they're going to have a great goaltending no matter who's in net. So back to the next they should have a good record off. Yeah, I think that's a good signing for them. Lots of money and goaltending right now though. Yeah for a lot of teams actually speaking of a lot of money on both ending goaltending wins a lot of games from Montreal just go ask Montreal what's going on. They went out and traded for Jake Allen. So they're spending a lot more money this year than they will next year. They sign they ended check out Jacqueline Jake Allen to a two year. I think it was like two and half million something like that. So A good signing for them. So, I mean, there's another good tandem. Here's another one Tyler toffoli Tyler toffoli. He goes to Montreal for a four year 17 million dollar contract. Yay, or nay? I mean again, I don't. The Canadians just they don't have any depth behind them. They're not building any guys up all their fans are saying they are but no, not really. I'm not seeing it at all and it's always all right. He's a good second liner, but I don't know. It's a it's a weird deal and we're going to talk about another wheel. We're deal that the Canadians do later but Canadians and buffalo confusing me. I think I think this is a great song other than the other one that we're hinting at. Tyler toffoli is a proven playoff performer. He did that with Los Angeles and I think that's what Montreal needs. I think they showed in the bubble playoffs that they're a better team than people give them credit for And the specifically Kenya me and Suzuki really, you know kind of shown in the playoffs. So there I think that's why the Canadians have been really really active in this offseason. I'm getting ahead of myself. Let's keep talking. Okay, Jacob markstrom goaltender. He signs a six-year deal with the Flames month for 36 million dollars. Yeah. I think that's a great deal for both sides. I think Marshalls getting paid. I think the Flames are patching what they don't have which is defense, So Mark service getting thrown into the fire. Wow. Wow. Wow, and you sit here and make fun of my jokes until tell me how stupid I am with my funny know what it was like that was a stray dad joke, you're still you're still nineteen. You're not allowed to say stuff like that so funny dog. Okay, what do you think about it? I think it's great. But like you said March them gets paid he goes from like a 3.46 or something like that cap hit and he makes almost double that in Calgary. So that's great for him. And I think this gives Calgary the first real number one goaltender since miikka kiprusoff retired back in 2013. So they haven't really had a great goaltender. I mean they had like the David Riddick and the cam Talbot and stuff like that who signed in Minnesota, by the way, in fact of team, which I'm kind of like wait what Minnesota is another team that's kind of all over the place talking. So, okay anyway, so that's Jacob markstrom. So another speaking of the Flames off TJ Brodie TJ Brodie of the Flames. He's a really good power play quarterback. He signs with the Maple Leafs for four years at twenty million dollars. So that's $5 a month. 5 million a a v what do you think of that sign? Pretty good? I mean, I think the Maple Leafs just keep taking stuff throwing it at the wall and see if it sticks and shove doesn't break it off pick some more up and throw it back at the wall. Right? I mean that's what keeps happening maybe I mean, he's a good player. I think it's a fine signing but I like the Maple Leaves aren't it's not obvious what they're building right there. Just kind of Going for it. Right? Right. Let's see who else is on this list. If we could talk about let's talk about some of the Golden Bears that have moved around. It was a goalie musical chairs this year and free agency cam Talbot goes to the Minnesota Wild and Minnesota Wild get him for three years at 11 million per so that's a little over 3 million per year. What do you think? Yeah, I'm kind of the same. It isn't upgrade over Devan dubnyk who got traded but I'm only kinda hey, I only kinda now. I really like this next goaltender signing. So Braden holtby goes to the Canucks for two years at eight point six million total. So that's four point three per year. I think this is a great signing. I know that a lot of Vancouver fans are really upset with the whole, you know, we lost markstrom. We lost stature. We lost ten Ave and you know, losing all these other players and markstrom but you know, this is not a bad, you know consult. What's what's the word? I'm thinking of Chris consolidation price consolation consolation prize. Sorry, that's validation birth. Consolidate. Oh good lord. Okay consolation prize. So hopefully is a good goaltender, right? Yeah. Now the situation there in Vancouver is going to be really weird with the whole one a one B thing with Demko, but obviously Demko is looked at as being the next. All right, and he's already good enough to be a starter in my opinion. I think he showed that in the play-offs here. We saw we saw some of it. Yeah, that was incredible If he if he plays like that that definitely but like yeah, but now now what the great thing about the Braden holtby signing is that if he is not ready for that Demko then Braden holtby is more than capable of stepping in and being that number one starter pack. He's the security blanket. Yep, and he's he's also able to teach Demko Yeah how to be better professional and I mean, he's a Stanley cup-winning goaltender. He only he won the cup only two years ago. It wasn't that long ago that he wanted the cut so he knows what it takes to get there. So I really like the song by Vancouver. Okay. I think that's enough for for free agent signings. I mean there's a ton of them on here. But but this a couple more notables that have not been signed yet as of now, October 18th at 11 p.m. Ilya Kovalchuk. Mike. Coffman still has not been signed which that really surprises me my coffin same Mikael Granlund Drive is ham and egg. That's a really good defenseman Eric Holla. I mean, there's a lot of good players on this, you know group that still have not been signed yet. Now, this is going to be a weird one for for me. There's there's actually two more I want to mention cuz I'm looking further down this list wage. And it's some really old guys going to teams and it's going to look really weird to see them in different colors first off another goaltender. Henrik Lundqvist, where does he go? He goes to the capitals. That's going to be weird. Yeah, that that's weird that's going to be so weird to see him in red white and blue and of all things playing with Samsung off and signed already wearing red right blue. You just wearing more red now. Yeah, it's just weird but like well their version of red white and blue so he gets signed to a one-year and I think it was one point five million remember correctly. Yep, 1.5 million good signing bad signing. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, we needed a goalie will take like with yep. Yeah that works sure that's significantly less than is 8.5 million right that he was making a little bit probably. All right, and then this is going to be the weirdest weirdest of them all and this one just happened a couple of days ago. Jumbo Joe of all people he decides to leave San Jose and he's going to the Toronto Maple Leafs for one year at league minimum $700,000. What do you think of that? Sure. I mean it's like what like what's he going to do? Probably nothing. But my thing is is that they've already got Jason spezza. Well, you got old guys now get two old guys on on your fourth line sounds good to me now. I honestly I'm I'm starting to stores. I know right? They're starting to get in being older team now. Well, I'll hang on to that but when we get to the next segment, okay, so a couple trades that we're going to talk about looking at the bottom of this trade. I think the biggest trade that the first big trade that happened. Is that the Columbus Blue Jackets traded Max Domi a 2020 third-round pick to the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for Josh Anderson. So it seems like we're both are FAS That's right traded to each other cuz they weren't going to SAI. So that's why they traded Hagen go well with the this this trade really confused me. Cuz first off I think Max Domi is a better forward over Josh Anderson agree. And then and then Columbus also got Max Domi along with a 2020 third-round pink confused. So I mean third-round picks don't really have a good chance of making the brakes are pretty good but they can be right. Yeah, they have like a twelve thirteen percent chance of making the NHL that's typically the odds are they see, but what was even more confusing is what happened, so max Domi signed a two-year contract for about five point three a a v I think that's about right. And then Josh Anderson. What on Earth is Mark burrowes have been thinking he signed Josh? He signs Josh Anderson to a 5.58 AV contract first Heaven years seven years. This is a guy who has been hurt recently. And he I think he played he got had like seven points last year cuz you missed most of the Season hanging out good. I understand that the season before he scored 27 goals, he and he did he played great. But that's a lot of risk considering the guy was hurt for most of the season last year, especially for seven years. That's the that's a big number. Yeah, just crazy and my opinion. I don't know what on Earth he's thinking and yeah, this this leads me to my conclusion that the Canadians are stupid and that they're going to get you home. They're going to continue to do the big suck and be bad for a long times. It'll be bad for long times. Like there's there's no like, how did the Blue Jackets get a third-round pick out of them? Yeah, like ever been like Germany and got yeah like like Ian Anderson is the same guy except domi's better cuz he played more recently and it's a safer pick wage. I don't get it. I really don't see a person. Go figure and I think it would have been okay if Max Domi had been traded for Josh Anderson, but the fact that Columbus also got a you know, a draft pick out of it is just walk in st. To me just dumb Canadian stupid. Yeah victim. All right. Well, let's go to a good move in my opinion. So Ottawa gets goaltender Matt Murray from the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for forward Johnson Gruden, who is a decent. Yeah. I mean, he's I don't know if he's going to make the NHL or not and then Thursday 20 20 second round pick. So this deal was made at the NHL draft and I think that's a great move for Ottawa. I mean, especially after you know, Craig Anderson, that's the end of his career more than likely I don't think he's going to sign anywhere else. But I mean, we all think of Matt Murray being like this old guy. He's but he's not he's he's just been around for forever. He's been around for five six years, maybe five years. Yeah, maybe years and he's only 26 Only twenty-six so he's not that old. So I mean, I don't know who thought he was old. I didn't think it was old. There were some people are and I'm just thinking like why are they trade Fuller's old guy? It's like he's not that old. So not only are they getting a guy who's young but they're also getting a guy who has won two Stanley Cups back to back in his first two years so he knows what it takes to get there. But I think this is I think it's really good trade. I think it's going to be well, I think the best case scenario for the Senators is it's another situation like we had with Lebanon. So Lenin was kind of he played well the beginning of his career, but they kind of got washed up and couldn't get a groove right off. Hopefully he can restart in Ottawa and he can find what he had the beginning of his career and just figured right up and get going again. That would be the best case scenario for for both of them so long. It's a I think it's a good good trade. Different penguins do they get some nice stuff? They didn't Marie's time was done in in Pittsburgh. That was kind of obvious to everyone who was there especially the way the season ended they had they had to change something. Marie was an obvious problem throughout the regular season two, he wasn't playing up to the caliper that a championship team needs which the Penguins still are if they get if they get enough a good goalie in there quickly, but well, they've got church and Jerry which and they signed him to a three-year extension and everything. But I think this is how I forget their their General manager's name. I think his name is Jim Rutherford, but I think this is They're starting to realize that hey, these guys are getting older and they're I mean, you know, this is one of their last chances to get a cup again with this core with you know, the mall kinnan the Letang and the Crosby and you know, all those players. This is one of their last chances to get that. Yeah, so I think that's true. All right. So let's talk about another good another good trade. And yeah guys, by the way, there's a lot more trades that I'm not saying but this isn't the sake of time cuz we could be here for three hours talking to go or not going to talk about all this. Both of them are boring. Yep, but one of the ones that I wanted to point out was the LA Kings were requiring liya Sanderson from the New York Rangers in exchange for a 2020 sixth-round pick. So that was also done during the second day of the NHL draft and why is Sanderson for those of you that don't know he has had a rough time in New York and he dead Hated being there. He was their first round pick several years ago, and he just wanted to get out of new New York and with Los Angeles has you know the way that they're built I think out of all the California teams. I think they're the one that's going to bounce back the quickest out of those all three of those teams. And I think this is just another piece another Young Piece for them to build their excuse me build their core around and Los Angeles with by field and you know, they've got all these other young guys that are coming up. So watch out for me. What do you think Chris? I don't know enough about the situation. I defer to you right listen to him. All right, let's see here. Okay, here's here's a a return to Winnipeg. So Winnipeg acquires Center Paul Stastny from the BG case in exchange for defenseman Carl Dahlstrom and a 2022 conditional fourth-round draft pick. I hate conditional picks. Those are so stupid. I wish they would just be like Jim. We're giving you a yes. They got rid of them in the back to the new CBA. So I'm thankful for that. Anyways, not what we're talking about. So Paul Stastny returns to Winnipeg which one works like he's going to be there second line Center again and Vegas get some Copperleaf, which at that time they were trying to entice petrol to come to Vegas club. So so you think this is a good move for both teams? I think I think it is. It reminds me a lot of actually about the about the stars with oleksiak. You gotta you gotta get sent away. I mean the Jets didn't send him away this time, but they let him go, you know, but and then it comes back hopefully better which I think he's better. So he's a little bit older guy then oleksiak is I think he's in his he's got the experience now mid-thirties. Yeah, and you know, honestly Winnipeg is starting to look like a scary team again. I'm already were scary team but not even not this year not going to bed. But but they're they're bolstering their defense more and you know, we all said, oh their defense is going to suck this year and it actually wasn't that bad. Now part of that was Connor hellebuyck, but still Neal pionk still did really well in Winnipeg this year. So, okay. Yep. Gosh, there's like okay, there's there's about four or more that I want to talk about. Okay, so the devil's get Andre Johnson from Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for forward Joakim person. This is just Kyle dubas trying to reframe the bottom six for Toronto. They had too many top six forwards Andre Johnson is not directed to be a top-six forward and I think they just needed to also move some cap and some money out to get some cap relief and boy has Toronto been busy this month or two waiting Chris not Yeah, this is again Toronto picking up the stuff and throwing it at the wall and scraping some of it off. So, yep, seeing what sticks Colorado gave Brandon Saad in exchange and defenseman Dennis Gilbert from Chicago and exchange for defenseman. Nikita's is a door off and an Tomlin home. So Brandon Saad is going to Colorado. It's not like Colorado needed any more freakin offensive Firepower. Now, they've got another top-six forward and it's just an insult saying the the amount of moves that Colorado has done and how well they have picked up some some players. That was a good one for Colorado. I think there was also some nights there was talk about Chicago Blackhawks players very much not liking this trade if that if I'm thinking about that, correct, is that right? Right. You're correct. Jonathan taze was not happy with especially the fact that Corey Crawford was You know allowed to leave to go where you go new New Jersey. Yeah, something like that. But and yeah, he was not happy with the direction of this team is going apparently. Yeah, I think I think the Blackhawks are finally finally conceding. I think that's a this offseason is showing that they're kind of they're kind of going to go down into the bunker and start rebuilding that team. So, we'll see if some other big stuff happens from from them if they completely blow it up, but I think they're done for now. Well, we'll see if they have any kind of decent hockey team left of speaking of Colorado freaking Colorado. Not only did they go out and get a top-six forward, but they also went out and got the volunteers ye from the New York Islanders and I love davantes. He's I mean, he would I would love to see him in Dallas. Obviously, that's not going to happen at least now in, Colorado. But he is in Colorado and I think davantes is a huge upgrade over Nikita. Zadorov. Now don't get me wrong. Dourif was a very good defenseman for Colorado. But you know divorce is just an upgrade on that and all they gave up was were to second round draft picks. So they didn't they didn't even give up a first-round draft pick they gave up to second round draft picks for collar off the car audited for davantes. So goodness gracious, man. I don't like Colorado anymore. They're hiring. I know they're I think I think they're really ticked off that they lost to us and they were like, we're going to make quadruple sure that nothing happens this year after the battle for the the central conference if it's still the central conference this season is going to be mad tough. Yeah, I can't believe maybe I'll talk about at the end of this podcast but that for another podcast. Yep. So last defenseman or last defensive and last trade for a defenseman a last trade will mention we already kind of mentioned it but Vancouver required defenseman Nate Schmidt from the VG case in exchange for a 2022 third-round draft pick now in the office. In the depth chart for the Vancouver Canucks some have projected him to be on the second pairing and I'm just like no, he's he's a first pairing defenseman for Vancouver. He's going to play with Quinn Hughes. And honestly, that is highway robbery for for Vancouver to only give up a third-round pick and I know they lost out on Choice nature and Chris tanev, but they got a huge upgrade and Nate Schmidt. He's a great defenseman. Yeah, I like that for the Canucks. It's it's a good trade for a team that needed wage of money. So they took advantage of that situation well, and I think they should be very happy with that. So if you had to pick your most improved team on paper this offseason. Who are you picking that will you see the most Improvement? What do you think scarily the Colorado Avalanche? They're dead. It's not fair. And they and they still have freaking cap space. Yeah, they still have cap space. I don't know like are they paying their players like peanuts or I don't I don't know how they're have such good players playing hockey for them. But yeah it frustrating wage band that held ours that helps when Nathan MacKinnon. I think he's only making like six million dollars six six an hour something like that. I know but I mean she consider like like look at the big four in Toronto. Yeah. Yeah, I mean like and he's better than all of those players. He's better than than Jonathan Tavares and Mitch Marner in auston. Matthews should be too. At the same time, right? Exactly and you sitting here getting six and half million. So okay, he's going to deal. Yeah. Well, that's that's for another one with the engine off. Yeah, right. Okay, just cuz I'm curious. What do you think? He's going to get too much? I'm looking Maybe. Between six and eight million. I was thinking eight. Really. Yeah between six and eight million probably seven. I would think I think eight so he's only get better and it's scary and if you're going to sign them for that amount of money, you better sign up for for eight years Jim Nill. I hope you're listening to us. We're telling you how to do your drum off. Okay, and then I think my most improved team that I'm actually really excited to To watch and I met actually root for him just because of who they have. Toronto You're going to refer to Ron. Oh, I'm going to root for Toronto. No, man, Kyle Dumas rap on a wall team know I know a lot a lot of people make fun of Toronto for 4. That's where people go to have died for his Stanley Cup, but they got a lot of great pieces this offseason. They didn't change their big for they kept their big for around now, they got rid of capping and they got rid of several other other players and they've got some issues as well. They still have to sign makeev who is also projected to be a top-nine forward possibly a top-six. But I mean, I got a root for him and God, I mean, I think they're they're the most improved because they calaboose went out and he tried to fix his bottom 6 and I think on paper he did that now we're just gonna have to wait and see what happens. And in this when the if and or when the season starts they still can't play defense, but the but but they went out and they got a couple of defensemen and I mean, it'd be the same team where would have to score five goals of game to win. So I I just I disagree with that and I think that you know with all the players that they had their different there D course completely different wage is a good thing compared to last year last year words different keyword different not best. We don't know it was it was definitely a better. I think it's better. I think they're going to do better and their bottom 640 better. They got Wayne Simmonds. They've got Joe Thornton and I think I'm just going to root for them because they've got Jason spezza and Joe Thornton and neither one of those poor guys. Neither. One of them has a Stanley Cup home and I yeah, neither one of them do yeah. Yeah jumbo jokes poor guy know he doesn't cuz he he he played in Ottawa for too long and then he came to Dallas and Dallas. Yep. Wasn't up there yet. They were on their way up there, but they weren't there yet. And then Albert at all. Yeah. Well his first couple of years he did. He had like a 30-goal season tickets first or second second year, but whatever. I think I think that's my most improved team. And I think I'm going to be rooting for them a lot. I believe I'm going to be rooting for Toronto Thursday. I'm jumping on the bandwagon. All right guys, I think that's it Chris you got anything else to say before we log off? Thanks and gig'em gig'em. All right, guys, this has been Starcaster, March the only Dallas Stars fan LED podcast. 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2. Exit Interview Reaction: Torey Krug likely gone, Zdeno Chara likely back with Bruins

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2. Exit Interview Reaction: Torey Krug likely gone, Zdeno Chara likely back with Bruins

"Welcome everyone to the second career. Second of money poke the bear podcasts with host Conor Ryan. This podcast is brought to you by the only sports book you'll ever need that us Connor. It's I'm so happy. We're here for the second show off. You know, I'm glad to be here and how you doing. I'm doing well. I'm glad that this didn't get canceled after the first episode that we made a second episode. We we didn't get sent back to the HLF to one game where we're ready to roll. We're safe. We had a trek Frederick like debut with a we may not be saved me and we might be like the pedestal Erica podcast and get like send back down. So we gotta we gotta keep it rolling just a lot of classic up with like David. Krejci's. Oh maybe he's like a future top six left or right winger. This is gonna be the finally breaks out like plays like seven shifts the next game. Yeah. It doesn't play the 3rd. Then suddenly his back in prominence just like a game. The average things so hopefully we don't go to our Slovakian news sources and rip the Bruins cuz it might be it might be it for us. Yeah, I might do that but you might not have to good home. So obviously this week this past week was Bruins exit interviews earlier than I think we expected them to be but nevertheless they were there many that day. It was just one after the other after the other after the other usually exit interviews in person are everyone's available in the locker like you just go from like stall to stall to stall for like 3 and 1/2 hours and it's always interesting because you get to get an injury rundowns and it's like it's always impressive the list of just like tons of injuries this year. There were some injuries but mainly there weren't a large solely because they only played like for a month. Yeah, and again, it wasn't like, you know, thankfully these guys had you know, three full months to kind of rest any injuries they had so by the time they started up again. It was more a month. The either the wear and tear or stuff that we had pre already well aware of like, you know, Bruce Cassidy said that David pastrnak doing with that lower body injury. It's like yeah, if you watch those games you clearly knew something was bothering him, right? You know, he did admit that he didn't have it. He didn't suffer that injury during that celebration was earlier in the game, but it was like the only real you know major revelation we had in terms of you know stuff that we already were expected was going to happen in terms of injuries. You didn't have like, you know last year John Moore was playing with like a separated shoulder. And yeah, I know military had like a cracked sternum. He was the craziest one cuz I don't I've never heard of someone playing through like a cracked ribs, and that sucks like a cracked sternum like holy help. What what what's most impressive last year was Charlie obviously playing with a broken jaw, and then they were just like a laundry list of other injuries right and planes and that's like the fun of the playoffs as you get to hear all the injuries this year. There was none of that just because but the one injury that was pretty big and we didn't expect was Chris Wagner with Jake. Irregular heartbeat and it is a specific term for it escapes me right now. But in a regular heartbeat, his heart was racing in the second period of game for is like what the hell is going on here. I usually can kind of recover quicker than this and then they take them to the hospital. They figure all that out. It's pretty scary stuff. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think it's kind of said it best of you know, even for these hockey players who fight do everything right off a broken broken broken bones and you know torn torn ligaments and stuff like that. They fight through it like you don't really screw around when it's you had or something like that, you know regular there. So I'm going to him for at least, you know, how bout you know, notifying them and you know, you know, he didn't really play I think in the last, you know 3rd. I don't think that game at all. And so yeah, he went to the hospital had to get more test for because he went to the hospital. He's on home warranty and watch so even then you kind of you know, you said like hopefully if I get cleared, you know, I'm playing later in the series they extend it, but you just never know when a situation like that so, you know, he's dead. More testing this upcoming week just to make sure it's just a one-time thing or or something like that. I mean we've also, you know had this before with you know, McEvoy had a regular heartbeat in a few of those issues last year or two years ago. So it's two years ago years ago. Yeah, and that was incorrect with just like one of those you know, it's crazy when you think of heart surgery, I think it's the you go to Defcon like 20, right and not fun. But you know, there's so many of these kind of smaller procedures that are able to just fix like a a murmur or you know, a regular happy. There's something like that. So hopefully it's just nothing, you know, it was just a one-time thing off to get corrected easily because I mean as you said like anything involving hot when you told us that was ago fees cuz cats didn't really say that much when he was running down that list of injuries in regards to kind of what I was dealing with. Well a few years ago when McEvoy had his thing he was he got surgery and he was back within like A week. Oh, yeah two weeks. It was very quick the turnaround it was I remember like I covered when I was good old days of high school sports. It was a you know, a soccer player but like in regular happy, they found me and he like had surgery and like took like an hour, you know, it's just like they put like something like like a little tiny thing through and like cauterize like one like, you know centimeter. You're all good to go. It's crazy. I think she said his surgery was five hours. Should I catch that was I think maybe using a saucer or five hours which like sounds like a good day at the hospital cuz usually waiting like nine hours so but I might get some preferential treatment. I think maybe the hockey player in Toronto. Yeah might do it. But so the big news of the the exit days was you have Torey Krug basically complete depression. No chance he's coming back and feels like and you have to say no Chara on the other end of it. Who's like, what are you talking about? I gotta ask that question like 5 minutes after the game table. I didn't have my mind made up then but I do want to come back. I want to keep playing so we'll hit each in their own segment. I feel like the Torah cruises bigger. So we'll start with that Krug all year as the year has gone off the chances of crude coming back are lower and lower and lower and now it feels like it's pretty much done. Some crew wants to get paid completely once you've paid and rightfully sewn. No rules don't really have the cap space for it. There wasn't a lot of contact throughout the year. According to Krug. We'll talk to Sweeney this week. It should I think the exit interviews for management is this week, I think I'd be sweetie and nearly I don't know about it. Maybe the Jacobs too, but I don't think so much for that whole debacle. I don't think that'll be happening, but we'll see but but what did what did you make of Victoria Cruz stuff? Yeah. I mean, I think when you you know, you listen to them on on Thursday, it seemed like kind of you know so long You know hoping maybe something has worked out but you read kind of the writing on the wall just in terms of the fact it was no contact or kind of you know, his stance of you know, someone mentioned, you know, the willingness and maybe to take you know page deal or you know, another two or three year deal or something like that. It's like let you it's been doing that like almost his entire career right like you signed his ELC then like because the Bruins in such cap hell and liquid 1415 e x a one year deal for like one point seven million or something like that like below market and then another one year deal and then he finally gets his like payday and it's what a full year contract like 5.8 to 5 is pretty great. But it's still you want for a guy like that, you know twenty-five you want that security of a long-term deal and you didn't really get it. So now you'll get them now, he's twenty-nine. This is his last legitimate chance to cash out even with like the flat cap, like some teams going to knock songs by the way the founders flash with poor guys up for a huge deal and it's a flat. Yeah, and even though I still think you know teams going to offer them, you know a table. And a half million per year like I'd be surprised if he doesn't unless like people like over the teams have a collective like holding like a hard line on some of these bigger free agents just because of the financial situation but I forgot like him who's you know proven what he can do, you know in this league for years now, you know, I think he's definitely should go for you know, getting that big payday and I just don't think it's here with the Bruins and I think the biggest gang up with the Bruins is not just the the cap situation which I think you know, if they were able to work out a good deal you probably willing to take less right like, you know, seven million seven and half something like that, but I think the issue is what kind of scares them because again, they want to max out these next couple of Seasons, but also like you can't have if you're trying to rebuild later on you can't have Torey Krug who's 34 35 far as you know, a guy like him his kind of skills that the kind of damage he takes, you know, dragging your cap down in that situation. So if it was like, you know, a, you know, four or five year deal, maybe you could work it out, but I still off. For any crew wants to get paid he wants the setup him and his family up for you know, long-term big contracts. So, you know, I think he's going to kind of take that route and seems like they're both kind of pot ways off. Like you can't blame Kruk because he he wants the security has a you know, a young daughter his wife. He wants to be somewhere for the next eight nine years and know that I can put my kids through school there. I can do all that stuff off, but you also can't blame the Bruins I think because as as you said down the line, you don't want a 34 35 year old Tory crude taking up, you know a large portion of your capsule. They also don't really have a lot of cap space this offseason 15 roughly fifteen million right now. I think I mean to me he's going to Detroit. I mean the month or the more I look at this the more I see the relationship he has with Jeff blashill, you know, I don't know how long flash will has in Detroit just cuz they're not good but like is the longest like, you know least I think maybe they've Which is good for a management is like when you accepted you just garbage and your team sucks and like Gnostic. It's like Brett Brown which hasn't worked out with Philly but like something like that was like listen, we're really trashed. We think we like you said like we'll keep you rolling through this you take the punches for us. Yeah, and but I feel like a benefit of him is he can bring a guy like him and crew have such a good relationship is sort of like the Stevens Hayward thing where you have that good connection. You also have crude being from Michigan. He spent a lot of we don't know how much but he spent a good amount of quarantine in Michigan. You wonder what that does to a player's thing in them and like a what's a century vulnerable moment. You're back in a certain place. You can create another bond with the place. So I think he's gone and I think everyone thinks he's gone, and I think he'll go to Detroit they have to touch base they stink, but but now here's a little but so they suck now, but Now, I'm not an expert on their farm system or I'm not even pretend to know like most of their line-up because like every time they come through here where like who who are half of these people like, who are they but you really look at it and in four or five years there's a chance they're contending and there's a chance that crew himself becomes a veteran leader on that team gets to be a veteran leader for a cup team in his hometown or home state. It's going to be attractive to crew. I mean, he's spending he said he said he was like the longest Boston athlete going right now. We just have a championship. I think that's true too. I do believe so. Yeah, cuz the Celtics would be Marcus Smart. Yeah, he was he said before then. Yeah so easily. Yeah the Red Sox won and eighty thousand and the Patriots of the Patriots Yeah, it's Tori crew, which is crazy. Yeah, but or you can sit you for asking to start never mind, but we'll save it for another episode later on this Thursday. A dog days of summer of a dog days of November whatever we're going to be looking at. Days of the start of the Season keep getting pushed out. But yeah, what do you think the Bruins do I say nice groove back? Yeah. I mean, I think it you know, it opens up quite a few options to them and I think we look at where crew has missed the most right and I think obviously you look at the Power Players a concern cuz that's kind of a choice read about her right of what you're expecting from him. And you look at you obviously going to miss kind of the the veteran leadership. He brings in that room as special. You know, I think he's undervalued in that regard as being kind of that bridge between you got two different groups in the Bruins locker room, right you got this established veteran Corps and you got this growing pool of kind of these younger players like McAvoy and debrusk a low all those guys so groups wage really been valued in our locker room as a guy who's kind of that in between that can you know is on great terms, you know, very close to the veterans. He's been there for eight years, but also, he's a younger guy that you know, yep. Jeanette like you know, sometimes if you're younger guy easier to talk to me then just going up to run Bergeron like those kind of things do matter and a locker room sort of hard to talk about something else. Yeah, right mm to your fortnite, you know crew or whatever. I don't play fortnite song, you know what the crew gang? I don't know but my speed me and shower on the same wavelength that regard of not knowing what the hell is going on with it. But but I think you know, you're going to miss something like that. Obviously, you still got a great, you know veteran call. You still got you know other guys home of that in between like oil and stuff like that Corelli wagna and then on the PowerPlay, you know, you're able to I think you can still move on and still have a pretty great power play off without crew. Like it may not be as dynamic because you see when troops really rolling like ghosts and blue lines of the half-wall he knew a whole bunch of different things replaced with Matt grzelcyk. I think you're getting more of a guy who's going to be dead. You know walking the Blue Line, you know keeping Pucks in, you know, feeding the back down to March and or something like that. But you kind of the numbers like the power play with Grizzly gang still pretty damn good when you look at just Bruins power-play, I think like if you do like goals for 60, I think like Krug is like eleven point seven two goals per 60 when he's with the usual guys like Bergeron Machi and pastrnak, but I think Chris looks like a like a goals of like goals per 60 of like twelve or something like that. Like they they've their numbers like don't tip at all. If anything to even better. It's a smaller sample size of course, but I think when you still have those Talent up front and you give cause like a, you know, an asset roll, we're just hanging on that blue line, you know getting shots from you know, the high slot which we scored in the last regular-season game, you know, he was replacing crude. They're against Philly on March 10th way back when and you know years ago. Yeah exactly. So I think he's still brings a value their wage Is of I think you can still roll out a really really strong powerful even with a gal acrylic and again, it's opens the opportunity both for him and for McEvoy to get more minutes on on the power play Faith, as you know, mcavoy's you're you know future of your blue line, you know, he does a little bit of everything. There's one thing he probably hasn't excelled in yet. It's probably, you know, running a power play and it's mostly because that top palpak so good. They don't really roll them out there. So I still think you're in pretty good shape special teams wise 5.5 I think is where we have to talk about rights a little bit more dicey in terms of just who you're going to replace that those twenty-plus suck kruga logs every night. Yeah to me and you said it best. There's not a huge drop off on the power plane. I don't think there will be when grzelcyk goes on to it. You could also you said put Mac for out there, but I feel like one thing we're going to see next year is gross looking McAvoy in roles that are more enhanced that helped them both a little bit more, you know with Chris Brown. With Krug on he would probably be the the next guy up to that first power play and you could always try McEvoy. So that's another option where McEvoy kind of gets us play enhanced. And also you bring back which charendoff says he wants to come back. I think I think that's the right move. I think just reassigning him to a one-year, you know, 1 million 1 1 and 1/2 million dollar deal is a no-brainer wage is no way the Bruins put him on the first pairing anymore. You should be a third parent defense and we'll get to that a little bit but then you also let McEvoy be with Grizzly most likely and that's a Duo that is great on the back. All the numbers have shown that so I think you're going to start to see Dem next year's going to be a huge year for development for both of those guys you hope you don't lose Chris like to Seattle. I think of crude goes you probably wouldn't put quiz like up for the Seattle draft. But all of that is stuff that we will get you in a little bit first corner. I know you want to talk about that us the great people about wage. U.s. I do have an invoice. So yeah, listen up Sports Bettors. This is Connor Ryan here to tell you what my favorite sports book and that's bet u s football basketball and baseball are all back and change time to get down your bets. I only do this one sports book and that's bet u s.com. Why do you ask because bet u s is the Pioneer and online betting with more than 25 years in the business. 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It felt like he was going to we when we both said this last week felt like he was going to retire after that game the way I'm talking about him like he was dead the way. Basically eulogized him as if he was about to draw get on the ice like a soliloquy. I was like what the hell is going on here, like any profession believe so if you give me a moment long as I need to we need to talk about the humanity I said, they don't Chara. I mean that was sort of what it was like how like every dog impression. It's like every single one of them are not ripping you but it sounds like a guy who's calling like the 1919 World Series like it's that hires that that has him like, it's just very like deep in your throat. I mean, I I can trip on play-by-play As I could never be a play-by-play person he'll know but that's why I chose writing. But so what's what's crazy is he comes out and he chart was in a really good mood for that accident like heaven Bergeron were the first two on Thursday and they were great moods Chara especially Chara was you know, laughing it up and you know, he took time at the end of the exit interview to thank everyone for how long for what's it called for for staying in the bubble of being committed shot in super asked not getting but so saying he wants to return and I said this a little bit earlier, but what if your thoughts been on Shore up probably returning to Bruins, I'm forty-three years old. Yeah. I mean, I think you look at it and just like, you know how they're going to approach it and if he's back and it's like I don't get the the people who will like, you know, he's washed up. I'm like, all right. Well you look at like what don't let you know the last, you know, ten games like Cloud what you know, what? A pretty solid year for a forty-three-year-old guy put in a role that he probably shouldn't be in as a top pairing shut down option. Right? Like look at that Series against Tampa like Chara now at forty-three like yeah, like he's not the Norris Trophy, you know perennial guy he's not a top pairing guy anymore. But like he's still very effective as the anchor of your PK which still held up pretty well. I think in the playoffs, I don't think they are saying that one of the factors why you lost that series, you know, they had that one game where they broke out but they adjusted and clamped down really in the next game. They changed it before others before game for yeah, they switch gears which losing Gujarat Palace but they also are a lot more active and pressuring in that in that game five. So they make the necessary adjustments so him on the PK still brings plenty of value and then you know his value now on Long Island V is, you know, a shutdown guy or a guy that you roll out there to protect the lead and what do you know Boston pretty much did not lead, you know at all really in that that last stretch of the games against Tampa Bay. So you can't really, you know see them at the best of his abilities when he's in the world like that. So I think going into next year. If you bring him back on a one-year deal one to you know, one and half million annual, you know annual cap hit and put him in a third pairing role where you know, you're allowed to bring up grzelcyk or what-have-you. Next McEvoy. You know what McEvoy, you know operating a little bit more freedom and especially offensively helps him out. Put her on a third pairing roll next to Gala Clifton helps helps him out too. I mean you look at kind of their numbers they play their think 25 minutes in the play-offs Char and Clifton and like I think bought sounds like a 16 to 6 Edge and scoring chances. Like that's crazy numbers for a group that was still like most parents would Chara's usually stuck, you know in Boston Zone not defending. So I think you look at kind of what Chara brings and if you bring him back in a role like that for that kind of money for what he still brings as a defensive, you know expense but a phone number Shut down guy guy who he's still anchors a PK for that kind of money. He had in the veteran leadership. He brings like I don't see why you know, this is the year that you want to kind of blow it up and move on, because you know, people are you know, I mean, I think we're both I think on the same wavelength of like they still got at least one good shot at this like, why are you why you cutting ties where the guy who clearly wants to be back for good money when like he still brings value of what you're looking for. He's not your anchor on your blue line anymore. But still you put them in a certain role. He's going to you know, he's still very effective in what he does. That's the thing. He's not a number one anymore. That does not mean you don't bring him back and he hasn't been a number one for a few years now, but but during this postseason, we really saw it and again the four-month paused hurt him maybe the most yeah out of everyone that died from maybe someone like halak with his glove hand, but can you look at it? Who like this is what I tell this is what I asked people who who say that their anti bringing Char back is two questions. So khong Ready for a young kid to step up like Amazon into consistent, you know top six not top six but defensive minutes to be a potential shutdown guy know off and I did know and if you go out and bring in a free agent, who's that amount of money as a third parent guy the last time you brought in a free agent third pairing defenseman was wage John Moore. Okay, so it's not like it's this easy thing to go out and just throw a a third pairing, you know one and half two million dollars a year to defenseman in there. It's nice and I guarantee they're going to cycle through charges your guy and he it's funny like and it is exit interview. Someone brought up potentially wanted to get you already house record of most games play and he said I don't play I don't you know stats aren't my goal. He said something like just like really good quote was like I don't yeah, I don't I don't play for stats. Yeah. Yeah. He just wants to be out there in big situations defending like he's dead. Say like not to bring up my own hockey career here cuz it's really stupid when I do this, but I was a defenseman. I always enjoyed the defensive aspect of hockey more than offense. Now part of that was because I was not very potent on the office Nook, but God it's like a it's like people who just love defense pull it off. It's kind of like a sickness or has that like charges enjoys shutting opposing team's down, you know, not letting guys get two front of the net just loves that so if I you know, if if you don't give a million a year to do that for 13 minutes a night forty minutes A Night by all means do it do it. It's just not make a difference cuz you need to have a good solid shut down back there and it can't just be Brandon Carla you need a second one. So charge your guy. So absolutely charge should be brought back again. Like I think if you're looking into sausage and right like everyone's talking about the priorities film and it's yeah, it's getting you know, legitimate topics kind of balance on that score and get that 5.5 offense going, but you look at what kind of what kind of you know files they gotta put out if Krug and Char both on like what do you do in a few decore-ative? Bring back charmx senses of third pairing guide and makes life so much easier for the Bruins because you can just slide him in there, you know, you could put probably McEvoy and grew up together is probably would I would assume be the plan. Am I still gotta deal with who you put in an extra running Kalo, but if you're going into next year with two spots open in the left on the left side. All right, like if you were like stop the kids like, all right. Lausanne with solid job. Look good in the postseason though. Like is that a guy you want handling 19 + minutes this year and I know a role in the second or third pairing. Like is it, you know people keep on saying like when how is the time to back and I had to break through I think people think back in irons like Sid Nika of like he's ready to roll like he's been developing you listen to what some of the Bruins are saying like how we didn't prompt and like seems like he took easy to like regress or he's been kind of stagnant his development like ever since I think, you know, he came back from World Juniors with Finland and had that great run seem like he's, you know been kind of Nod Taking the steps that you're expecting from a guy like him. So there's no guarantee that he's your guy next year. Like I think when J leads the head coach of Providence talked to us back in may he you know flat out said that page of oral was the the best defenseman down in Providence during that time. So maybe he breaks out. But again like you just if you're trying to max out the next year or two, you know, is that what you want on your D club like a strength your team's World jakub. Zboril be okay. Like we got one last crack at it. Good luck buddy, like your have enjoy your eighteen years models are guy. Yeah, like I mean who the hell knows maybe he has a strong camp and you know plays into that role but like as if those guys did John more you want being your top-four defenseman like so I think you know losing, you know crude freezer money to get you know, maybe one other thing like, you know, maybe they switch things up and hands like a bigger body like, you know, Joel Edmundson or you know, Brennan Dylan one of these guys, but I think when you have two guys in assuming that left side just cuz you don't want to re-sign wage. I refer you know, the Absurd one to two million he's going to come and that just doesn't make any sense like and again best case scenario if he's back guy legs of oral or back in on and off Arlo's on take steps forward Chara's they're the men to them and when he does retire and another year or two, maybe he's world one of those guys are control ya in ten years, you know, maybe like those guys are ready to serve. So it just makes so much sense from one production one, you know, another maximizing the value of this team, but also just like common sense of like just bring him back, you know what he brings. He's still damn and roll that you should have carved out for him. And you know, you're able to give yourself a security blanket rather than just rolling out all these young guys. That's it. That's it. Like what is your life isn't hard people think less like what are the what what would you like to have happened? You like like there's no one who ruins Twitter does not like more than Jean more. So you want John more out there. So you want to get off. There is a few other people that they don't like more rich is Nick Ritchie has surpassed that actually you're right. But every time John Morris on the everytime drama was in the lineup this year was always like just so enduring John more down. Obviously. I wonder if they they do something with his cuz he's going to be RFA after next season. I think I believe so I'm in Kasha I think are on the same kind of contract wonder how that all played itself. That'll be next offseason. Then we'll focus on that that I do wonder if they try to make a move with Richie this year cuz it'll be very weird if they bring him back never really seemed to fit in that Bruins line and in the locker room, they're dead just my own opinion. So one last thing before we wrap this up one little tidbit that you mentioned Bergeron and his eggs interview brought up how his groin off this issue. Now we've known this for a while and it's been an issue, but the fact this doesn't really have a remedy the fact is isn't going away. He's thirty-five years always get two years left on his deal. What do you think? Yeah, I mean, I think it's just further, you know evidence that you gotta put all the you know chips on the table now and go for it to see excuse don't have any, you know guarantee of what the future is going to look like for this team not even just after next year but going forward, you know mileage and the Damage that Bergeron has taken over his career and you know, you mentioned, you know, two years ago Bergeron has her off in surgery in the offseason try to fix it. I think in 2018. So yeah, three years ago two years ago. He had another surgery to try to correct that injury last year in July. He gets a PRP shot to try to solve that issue and then you know, it's still every year seems to be bothering him. I mean bothered him this year, you know, something was up. He took a couple of Maintenance days up until wrong and I mean you look at last season too easy. I mean, you know, there's plenty of ways you can look in kind of examine why the ruins lost that Series against Saint Louis, but Bergeron re-aggravated that growing injury during that game full win against Carolina, and he was not the same. That series and as soon as Ryan O'Reilly's wine, especially at 5157 point and punches against that line. They they were toast. So I think from the Bruins perspective, you know, first off that line, you know what they're going to give you but all it takes is one, you know weird, you know shifts or you know, sudden movement all sudden he could have that injury sprouted up again. So I think one it's an emphasis on the The Winds of you know, still monitor him monitoring him and his usage. So I think you've seen the last couple of years now, he's being him in his liner being deployed more as a you know, offense only kind of groups like they're getting 60 plus, you know percentage of their face off during the offensive zone like that's their job now. So one that give that's the onus on the rest of the lineup to both kind of handle those minutes. So I think next Thursday the 4th Line really needs to rebound cuz they're going to be handed a lot of those minutes against top six guys, I think from just an offensive respective like you need another line to get rolling whether it's you adding a guy or a girl. Some of these younger guys have to break out because if you know if Bergeron in that line go stagnant during a playoff series cuz he's dealing with an injury after a another whole year of taking a beaten then, you know, you're in the same situation you often like the last few years like you need that second one and that they're willing to roll to get that offense going in case that happens because it seems like with this injury, you know, it doesn't seem like it's going away. So he's gonna have to deal with first of his career. So it's something that I think the parents should just have to be cognizant about cuz I think that's kind of just the hand of the dealt. Yeah. I mean also that that that Top Line of Marshawn Bergeron pastrnak has shown in past years there across injury-prone, you know, you have version of this growing you have Posh like with these weird freak injuries, you know falls on his thumb me he you know that this year he says he injures lower-body celebrating but you have that you have Marshawn last year in the cup re-aggravating. Was it a wrist injury. Was it a thumb? It was I think a wrist it was during the scrimmage exactly the scrimmage that God. I follow just random scrimmage, actually the environment for it was pretty crazy. It was it was that that aspect of it was fun the game itself, but nothing accepted hurt the team more but so they've shown that they've injury-prone in your right that bottom that korali line when it comes back joke enormous from probably not coming back to the Bruins. You have to find someone kind of a place him on that line. They do this year than last year that shallow the year before shower with that amazing goal against the Rangers that basically creates started hearing the fridge which to be fair. Like Jim shalosh now get credit because he was ready to roll again. Like they get LaFreniere and this year they got like Panera and all these guys last year got great girls coming up so they should give Tim shallow. I think we should stop the campaign a key to the city of New York for rebuilding a proud French like the Rangers in a short amount of time with that nasty goal. Every shallow mayor of New York. Give him the keys to the city after he he changed the commercial reggia. Three humble beginnings of a New Hampshire's now key to the city in New York. Like anyone can make these days right for Brendan Smith to Brendan Smith and Alexei lafranier. Yeah. So shall Ur. Does a lot of good also ex Bruins general manager Dave Gordon. Yeah, like who had the craziest like short run of GM here and then also need still making moose most impactful GM. The Bruins have had the past twenty years this year for like two months almost got back from Two and that and that trade in a draft in 2006. That's he was he was doing everything that that showed Em Running head and they followed off with sarelli. What I what a what a following act Connor as we end this anything you'd like to say to the listeners at the end of episode two. Yeah, you know, I think as you said this upcoming week, we should still have a whole bunch of you know, additional Zoom calls with some, you know, more players and especially I think don't swim you'll be talking which is always great in terms of job. An idea of just the pulse of what we're all expecting from the off season of what moves are trying to make or you know what they're prioritizing. So that'll be fascinating. So we'll have plenty of that next week just kind of like breaking down what the expectations of what the movies will be in the next couple of months months for this team and then hopefully next week we'll also be doing probably, you know, a live chat where we'll be going through some questions. So I'll probably pick up something on Twitter or on our website next couple of days, you know asking for kind of mailbag question. So I think we'll do that later next week and go through that and see if we can get a good conversation going. They extending obviously fans have a lot of questions about this team's we could be facing a whole bunch of change in the next you know month or so with how this team is kind of constructed. Ya Khana kha ke ja ra why they bringing them back. What about you should sign Greg zanon for seven hundred K and bring a man and make Chara home. GM okay. I'm sure they should make Chara assistant coach cuz that's pretty much what he is now. I had a friend actually yesterday I swear to God say so what start coming back as a coach is that what's going to happen? And I was like you serious. I mean isn't legit thing. I think Chara ends up now getting back into it. But I think Char ends up becoming a GM later in this career for an office person later down the life. He doesn't go into real estate or Finance. You can do that guy's got like 45 different like, you know, like those old like crappy like choose your adventure books where every chapter you'd have to pick that's like Jabba to be like the size of like like a Harry Potter book or something like that cuz you know, like 40 different directions of where he's going like someone real estate. She was like crying Mount Kilimanjaro. Maybe you'll just like go on like a hike around the world. Even the dude who often does one of those crazy. Like I'm going to do like a hot air balloon across North America and like if that happened we'd be like, okay. Yeah. It makes sense. Good luck. He's the only guy that I could like really see doing that. What's funny is there's also a thing off. Um, when when the Bruins of the 2011 Zoom call, I was watching the highlights of it the other day and Charlestons in Florida and someone said like when he would you walk down there and they're like no we took his bike and took he took the Greyhound of you know, funny. Anyways, that's poker appisode to you can always catch this twice a week. We're getting we're working out what days will do this or that have a great day.

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Jamie Bozzo: Managing Players Careers

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Jamie Bozzo: Managing Players Careers

"Good stuff. Can. Once again to a how do we call this Elliott bonus edition of thirty one thoughts the podcast Jamie Bozo is someone you should know if you don't already she works. For Spam That is Louis grosses agency and she kinda does I don't want to see everything because I don't want to insult Lewis grows like that but she does everything for Lewis Gross Elliott's. The phrase I use that she's brain I first met her I believe during the World Cup of hockey, and then I ran into her once and we kind of talk about it in the interview she was in town when the flames were in Toronto and she was meeting with Johnny Guterro and you know I started talking with her a little bit of both didn't want to give a lot of it away. You know mind your own business get lost talking to my client. It's none of your business go away. Don't ask me anything about it but you know at times you know we've kind of talked about her role and what Sheikh does and You know I just thought it was interesting I was thinking about free agency and everything that was going on and what a whirlwind it is and they've had some pretty high profile situations in the past few years Tori crew here William De Lander a year ago Brandon Saad one of their clients got traded good rose in the middle of rumors. We don't know what calories going to do and I thought it was a fun conversation to have about what exactly the job entails what kinds of things you. have to deal with because when we think about agents, a lot of us probably think of Ari Gold from entourage or Jeff people who are closer to our age think about our lists, which was a pretty popular HBO show about I twenty years ago. You know these are the kinds of things that I think people wonder about. Is it really light this? You know I I brought up to are actually a few weeks ago and she said after free agency she said, let's get us through that I so. No KRUEG sawed hopefully that makes the interview better and here she is this was a lot of fun and not only was it a lot of fun was really educational as well. understanding what agents do afford their clients always think is a player x got traded her hey player signed and magically they appear on their new team but there's a lot of work that goes in from getting them to their old team to their new team or from their old contract to their new one. Years how with Gene Pozo. Of SPF. Elliot I'm always curious about job descriptions because sometimes the actual job description on a business card sounds good. Oh, that's one for the Yearbook Jim. But then what they actually do is even more interesting and Jamie Basel who joins US her from spam is in client relations I've it's been described to me is Jamie is Louis grosses fixer works with Louis Gross is Louis grosses brain Jamie Basel joins us here on thirty one thoughts the podcast with Jamie. In my pretentious way of framing this interview I am curious about what you do for a living client relations is a pretty wide brush statement. What is it that you do Jamie? Wow Okay. What do I do? I guess I would say a little bit of everything from. Contract work behind the scenes to helping players when they get treated we a player traded over the weekend. So we've kind of been dealing with that. Pretty much everything I. Know that's kind of a wide term but there's a lot that goes into you know this not what's all the behind the scenes staff that not everybody sees? Great. So all of Louis grosses secrets will be spilled out here in a couple of moments and just so our audience that has an idea of who the players are that that Jamie is talking about I mean some of the the more high profile players Tori Crew William Knee Lander Brandon Saad. You mentioned a player that was traded and Johnny Gaudreau Elliott Oh handed over to you. So Jamie before we go into some of the stories I'm more interested in your route. You know there's a lot of people who want to become agents or work with agencies. I don't know if it's the arlit generation or the Ari gold generation but how did you get from there to here? So. It's a funny story and I get asked that question all the time I was actually Lewis's children's babysitter I grew up in the same town where I lived and right after two thousand, four, Lewis approached me and said, would you wanna come work for me and I said to him quite honestly I don't even like hockey I don't know anything about. It I. He knew I Love Sports I said I love Baseball I. Love Football I said Yeah I just don't really watch hockey and he said to me I do need somebody I can trust though. So I said Okay I guess I'll give it a try and fast forward now to two thousand twenty and I'm still here. So this wasn't in my plan. I had no idea what I was getting into I. saw it. I was going to answer the phone for a few months and kind of go from there, and it's just really about than I'm still here. So what was the moment where you said I want to do this I? I I WANNA make a career out of this. Yes. This is for me. I think when I started to take out that they're not just athletes their people. and. I think that's a big misconception that people have where. I understand they make a lot of money and that's the first thing people see but they are just such genuinely Greek people and I know you know this more than anybody being around it all the time they're just. They're great people, their families they have kids, their sons, their husbands. You know that that was really the awakening to me where I realized. There as much as they're not like us, they are like us. And you start to care for them. You know when you start to form these relationships with them where it's not as much just about how much money they're gonNa make but are you going to make the right decisions to put them in the right path to take care of themselves and their families? So walkers through then Toy crew would be it would probably be a good one. So Tori crew. Hits the market not resigned by the by the Boston Bruins in advance of that, what would you have prepared for Torey Krug with the perhaps expectation that he was going to market like what's the package Jamie that you put together for him because hockey fans like follow onto an all this is gone over here. Wow, that seemed really fast and simple and easy, and I know the reality behind the scenes with you isn't what's the package you put together to to prepare that player for the marketplace? So, we take a look at every team before and we go through each team and we look at the salary cap and how much caps be they have, and then we look at their depth charts and where are they going to fit in and you know so we analyze every I guess I would say possible scenario as. You guys know that all changes as prepared as you can be for it, it doesn't really matter and everything changes so fast. But something we actually did for Tori is that I made a spreadsheet and I figured out for Tori. Exactly, how much money he would make an every single market whether he signed in Saint Louis did whether he stayed in Boston and especially now with the new CBA, you have to take into the con- take into consideration, the deferral payment, the three year deferral you have to take into the change in escrow and when that money is going to be back and the federal tax and estate tax. So I gave him this spreadsheet and said to him, we can put an any salary we want any of these numbers. And we can put in any packed wherever you're gonNA play and I will tell you the difference that you will make signing in Boston or signing in. Saint Louis. The team has signed defenseman. To seven year deal the twenty nine year old is a former Boston bruins and three-time all-star crew will average six and a half million dollars over the next seven years for that seven year deal. Oh, it's great I mean. To be honest it was kind of not expected but. As the day went on, it just seemed. You know more and more like a perfect fit and you know as going through some of the things that were available if the roster that the the blues have in place in the core group it just seemed like a mashing now and so it feels great I'm very excited going. and. That was really the biggest. Thing for us to show Tori that there is a difference where you sign you know and. That's the most prepared you can be, but it changes so fast and. As much as you prepare sometimes, it doesn't really matter how much you prepare. What's the wildest situation you've ever been through whether it's a free agency or trade or anything like that when when you tell the story about maybe the craziest scenario that you've been through working in this business, what would it be? I would have to say the William Neulander story. Because we were under such a time crunch there you're talking about the deadline of December first day, he had to sign a couple of seasons to. Anybody know we're Kiefer Sutherland is I'm Alex. Sports net central. Update. There are twenty four hours left until we hit the William Knee Lander deadline. And there's one thing Chris Johnston can be sure of I don't see him being traded I surely don't seem being traded. Time has run out. We have hit the William Knee Lander deadline. Now. What have you genius tell me what happened? Well. Here we are. It is five PM. We had no news all day on William Neil anerba reports suggesting that there is a six year deal that he has signed. That was one for the books because. I kid you not that came down two minutes before that deadline. To where your hand is almost shaking sending over paper because you're like, oh my gosh, there's two minutes left. This is really happening with two minutes left. That was a crazy. Guess Month I would say you know the Toronto media is reporting something different all the time every day. So you're constantly in the spotlight and you're trying to keep the player calm at the same time by talking him off a legend thing not true don't worry about that and that was probably the craziest month I guess I would say that last month is when it really got insane. Well, we all know that I was accurate and everybody else was wrong. So that's that's facts. You'll like walkers through like a couple of situations like we'll get to the signing day in a second. But can you give us an example of something that happens where you're saying okay. We've got to deal with this right away or Willie is upset about something we have to handle him. Can you give us a couple of examples of that process where you really had to manage the client? Yeah it comes down a lot where you get a report that they're getting treated. We get that a lot and the player will call us and say, is there any truth to this and that's our job to find out? Is there any truth to this? More to just prepare them that this could happen and if it does happen, it's okay and are you okay with where you're going, you know some situations we have control over in some we don't. But some of that can't really wait We had an idea even with the Brandon Saad trade, we had an idea could happen and. I kind of warned Brandon ahead of time this could be happening and Saturday morning he sent me a text early and he said Hey anymore news on the trade I said, I haven't heard anything yet. You know I promise. You will be the first person to know this happens and you're trying to you know use all your resources to find out if it's going to happen that's when the player starts to get worried more just because they don't know they don't know where they're going to be tomorrow. That's when you almost have to deal with. It right away. There's a lot of places I WANNA go from here. But first, let's close the loop on on the lander. Describe that afternoon, I remember it was a Saturday night. The lease were in Minnesota Hockey night in Canada. Yeah. Take us through that day as the countdown came to five eastern because if he wasn't signed by five eastern, he couldn't play that year I I have to give Willie credit because. There's not a lot of players could that could do what he did. It takes a lot. I mean I've had players hold out for days and I have to be on the phone with them for hours every day like you can do this it's okay. Don't worry. Go go to the movies goal go out again, stay longer at the gym and every day it's the longest day of their lives and Willie's personality is just so calm and collected and. He knew what he had to do so that was a help us where we didn't have to. We have to you know you do have to calm him down but it wasn't to the point where it was every second having to calm him down but it was controls cats I guess I would say you know Lewis's phone is ringing the phone is ringing. You're trying to make sure everything's in please Ben you're also trying to make sure that as soon as the contract comes in once the deal is done, can you how fast? Can you get it over to get it registered? So it was a few hours of just sheer chaos and. Willie's also in Sweden, as this is happening and our offices located in New Jersey so We're doing all of this over the phone and back and forth and it was it was controlled chaos it ended up working out, but it was controlled chaos now I understand the higher. Now it all makes sense to me because there is gross wanted a babysitter. Someone that can that can babysit clients I mean not necessarily neulander but in the previous example of having to hold a hand for three or four days and assure a player that everything's okay it makes total sense now jamie hired as babysitter. Yeah exactly, and sometimes it's It helps him even more for himself. I always tell the story that people don't know this but Lewis's colorblind. And not an easy thing in hockey especially. That a lot of times I'll have to tell him Oh, you're looking for this team especially when he's going to recruit with this color, Jersey on. And sometimes have to make sure he can see the Color Jersey. It's pretty wild but it happened to him where I always buy him reading glasses and I always buy him black because it's the easiest and the color he can say, well, he was on his way to a draft and he lost his pair. So he went in somewhere on the way to the draft and he bought his own pair of glasses. and. He ended up thankfully meeting his son for dinner before he got on the plane and he took out his glasses to look at his cell phone. At one point on his son turned him and said, why do you have hot pink neon glasses on right now dad. He's like, what are you talking about? He's like I just bought these. He's like Dad, those are hot pink beyond glasses. Awesome. So he called me and he said. That's why I keep you around at that point is only say, yeah, that's right. Son Hot pink man get with it. It's called foul intrusive you one day I mean the draft is not somewhere though you wanna have the it was like, oh my gosh, no That's a very good point especially around scouts because they all wear black that citizens appleby Armstrong calls it the Scout, fit? Yeah, it is. It is. That's a that's a great name for it a Colby Armstrong. Originally, we'll get these guys all dressed up in the scout fit one final question on neulander through it because he's a young guy, he's going through this. and. He's a second-generation hockey player his father. Of course, as we all know, Michael Neale underplayed in the in the NHL. was he at all nervous through it? All or the fact that he had a dad that went through contract negotiations and through the NHL did that help William Lander through his discussions? I think it did I mean Michael is a great resource for William not everybody has that so to have that firsthand and. William gets to use Michael a lot for you know sounding board met his dad can release. But we were very fortunate and I think William is confident enough and himself that he could. He knew what he was doing and he felt he deserved a certain contracts and it takes a lot to do what he did. I I said to him right after I said, I, am so impressed with you at this age to be able to handle yourself like that it's. Not An easy thing. So I think he was nervous. I think anybody is naturally nervous I don't know if William Whatever admit that he was nervous but I think you're naturally nervous but he was very calm and composed. We actually teased him. You know when it was starting to get done that listen don't take your time signing anything sending anything back. Don't do your usual to cool. Stance just you have to sign and get it back. Louis. Cam. Saying that so. Let's do a couple of other scenarios here. So Brandon Saad as you said your client, what happens when he gets treated what is the team's responsibility Chicago Colorado, and what is your responsibility? I have to say the teams are great with this stuff. The team services people are usually great with the stuff I was just on the phone brandon actually earlier today going over because. You know people here when players get treated but I don't think they fully realized how much goes into this. Brandon said to me on the phone today he said Yeah, I've never gotten traded where I can't just drive to the place. He said, what do I do? I, have to ship like my car and stuff I said, yeah, we're GONNA. Have Half, devil your car shifts and Brandon's married. So it gets a little more complicated the teams are very helpful with everything but the players always have questions on what what do we do? What's the first step? What do I do? How do I do this? What is the team responsible for? Does the team pay for this? So he's for example, Brandon go out next week you have to find a place to live. And the teams, the teams are very helpful, but it's usually for us to be kind of in the middle orchestrating the whole process. And helping him figure out what the best way to go about stuff is. was there maybe a the maybe the biggest trade Jamie that you remember that kind of came out of nowhere was there anyone that caught you guys by surprise? Oh, that's a great question. I don't think. So we pretty much have usually suspected it. One of the biggest trees I remember being a part of was when Murray Saint Louis Dot treated to the Rangers. Wise Lot of people are asking why but I guess it's asking you shall receive Saint Louis asking to be traded to the New York Rangers and General Manager Steve into the Tampa Bay lightning happened to pull it off St. Louis traded today to the Rangers for Premium Follower Ryan Callahan into high draft picks body was one of the most liked if not the most respected lighting ever down the Jersey that was a crazy day it was a great day but we kind of had a feeling it was happening. 'cause is Erman keeps his places card close to the vest like he's as quiet as they get. Yeah. But that was a crazy day and Mardi actually played that night. He got traded he treated in the morning he played that night at Madison. Square Garden me and Louis. Race to get their Mardi jumped on the plane with two sticks in his equipment bag, and that's it and. right away. They actually land to the helicopter on the west side highway to get into the garden and time. and. Resources to the garden to see him in that game. I'm thankful for everything. that. Lightning is brought to me my family with that said I'm a lot of respect for. Mr Vinick Steve is events owner, my wishes and it was a tough day for my family, but we're all excited to be here. this is an opportunity for me. Play in the big market team. And It's good. It's going to be a challenge being somewhere for fourteen years I. It's it's just different. You know just just just getting ready for the game and. Just a little things that. You used to you know but. I don't think any treat. We've been really surprised that it's more just OK. The trade actually did happen now and now the chaos star. I remember one trip to Toronto. I came down for a Toronto Game Against Calgary the morning skate and I. saw you there and you live in. New Jersey. So, you were there to visit your client johnny good row from the flames. How often do you do that? How often do you travel to see your clients and you know what are those trips? Regular. I gotta see my guy because something's going on. They're kind of both were very fortunate where we are that we have the devils rangers islanders. So most of our guys come through here and we get to see them here it is very different those seeing somebody home or away by any time they're doing any type of endorsement or anything like that. That's when we try to be there because we're very protective of them in a way and we want whoever is. Doing any time, any type of promotion with them? We're protected we WANNA make sure they're being portrayed in the right way. So anything like that. That's when usually you see me Elliott and I go and I will usually say to the player. Let me be the bad guy I'll tell them. No. If you don't. WanNa do something I'll tell them yes and those are the types of that I will usually go. Well that leads me again to another follow up is you give us an example Jamie of maybe where you said to a potential sponsor or endorser? No this is too much and we're not doing that Oh. Yeah. A few times Sometimes they will say stuff is only going to take two hours and after about three and a half they're like, oh Come on. Let's let's keep going and I'm like, no, I'm sorry and they don't expect me to say that. But again, I'll say to the player. Let me be the bad guy here. It's fine. I've been at enough. Some companies are great to work with and then some try to push the envelope and it's always you know just give us another hour just give us another few hours and that's when I've had to step in and say, okay, enough is enough. Let's go. All, right. We are about twenty five minutes deep into this Jeremy wants team dirt, and here's hung in a frame it and see what I can get Outta here. I'm curious about you're talking about Brandon Saad, a couple of moments ago, and I've got a ship all my cars gotta move everything I'm curious about teams pushing back on any type of moving expenses I can recall an Elliott. You can remember this deal as well. When eagerly on off got treated from Detroit to Florida we all knew this was a rental. He only ended up playing I think like twenty five, maybe thirty games for the panthers but he wanted his entire wine cellar moved. To his new place in Florida and the panthers squawked big about it. Have you ever had teams push back and say hold on a second here now this is too much. I actually haven't I gotta say maybe I just represent really great players that don't try to push the envelope But I haven't yet. I witnessed more GM fighting with Louis I guess I would say and that push back more than he was pushed back but no, I haven't had that. Yet I mean, don't Jinx me now as I'm dealing with the player that just treated but I haven't yet so so far so good. Okay. My next one is about the size of contracts and I can. Remember we used to work with Doug Maclean and when he was general manager of the Columbus Blue Jackets the Rick Nash. Deal was a pretty groundbreaking one coming out of his entry level deal rings the bell and sort of resets that marketplace in a lot of ways and tells a story that they're. They're flying back on on Mr McConnell's plane and Rick Nash Him, and says. Wow. Thanks, Doug. That's a real lot of money rate there. How many times have you had a client say Jeez Jamie that's a lot of money and almost become overwhelmed when they realize know the decimal point involved here. A lot I. Guess I would say. you know hockey players are I mean maybe I'm a little biased but I think one of the best rational athletes there are out there. They. Really just are such great people and I think they're so appreciative of everything. I really do believe that, and I, think when they see this, I think sometimes they're just like this is more money than I could have ever imagined. One of the first time Johnny go drill was up in our office, his dad came up with us and. There was an autograph seller up here and they were doing a licensed memorabilia signing and deter toss instead why is this guy here? Who would ever want to buy my son's autograph? He's said it so. Sincere. And he one hundred percent meant it and I turned him and I said somebody's GonNa WanNa buy his autograph I promise. When he was like really somebody's really gonNA. WanNa buy his autograph. and. I just thought that was just such a great moment where. He was a dad I. You know before anything else and John was still his son and that's how we thought of them just as found before anything else. I can. Assume. A lot similar in the lander. Personally are they comparable? I would say, no, well, that's a good question by me then. Yeah that was a great question. I've known John since he was in college the first time I ever met him. He came up to our office Lewis said John's coming up here. You know him and his brother and he walked into our office the first day that I ever met him in Flannel Pajamas Pan and came up here and I turned to Lewis and my eyes were just like wide open. And he looked like a little kid and I ordered him a philly cheese steak 'cause that's what he wanted for lunch. And I turned to. What I said this is this is a baby and. He said Nope. I'm telling you could play hockey though. and. I. Guess. They're different personalities I. Guess I would say I maybe because I've known John Longer from the beginning more say and it's very different being a number eight draft pick and a sixth round draft pick when everybody tells you, you're too small for your whole life to play hockey and you know you change a little bit. I guess I would say so take us through that process. He's taken in the sixth round Calgary all the sudden. He starts becoming a star and then you guys in the flames have negotiated deal for him to leave school and go play in Calgary Yup, and that was a crazy night to we john had can really make the decision if he was gonNA leave and it ultimately came down to his mom as it usually does with everything for everybody anywhere. that. It came down to his mom being okay with leaving school and he just really wanted to make sure she was okay with it and once she gave the blessing for him to leave. Then he was like, okay I'll leave and go play curious Jamie how many times like would you or Lewis? Like rule a player say I know this is what you're thinking but I'm telling you know or do this does it ever happen or does it always have to be the clients final choice contract? Wise. It's really their choice I mean. We'll advise this is what we think you should do. But this is what we think you should do, but it really is your choice. Other. Times when it's maybe you shouldn't tweet that out should post that maybe you shouldn't go here. Maybe you shouldn't go there. That's kind of when I come in and say you are absolutely not doing that or you are absolutely not posting not or you are absolutely not doing this. Home. That's when I get called in to say, no, you're absolutely not doing. I'm not expecting you to name names on this one but what are some of the more weirder requests or things you've had to help professional athletes with that most quote unquote normal people just take for granted and a book end it this way a lot of these athletes are grow up in elite level programs where everything is taken care of them and things that you and I made for granted driver's licenses travel shopping whatever it just a matter of day-to-day living. But for them, it's always been handled before have you had any situations where you have to step back and take a deep breath and say I can't believe I'm going to have to do this with a grown man. Butts. Many I've gotten a lot of I lost my credit card. What do I do? I get that all the time all the time I get a lot of I lost my cell phone. That's the biggest one to bats always my favorite when it. You know I feel strange number call. and. I don't recognize the number because they're using somebody else's phone. And it's I lost my cell phone. Do you know where it is? Well, it's in a cab in Montreal. Okay she's unsure that's only happened once. Yeah that's all. Yeah and the best is, is that nine times out of ten they don't have a Pasco on their phone. That started to be a big thing with me that I would start to tell them right away. You need to put a passcode on your phone and you need to make sure you know you're find my iphone logging so you can give it to me. So I can race your phone right away when you lose your phone. And I'm like you said, it's so accurate. Everything is taken care of for them, and then they leave whether it be college or one of these hockey programs, and now with your out into the real world and not you're making a ton of money to on top of that. So I, get a lot of some don't even know how to deposit a check I had a player happy signing bonus check of ninety, two thousand dollars and slept with it under his pillow for a few days because he didn't know where to put it. and. He then went to the bank and went to the teller and asked bi-polar to just put it on his debit card because he wanted to take his brother out to dinner that night. Awesome. Yeah Ninety two, thousand dollars. We've always heard me various hockey players will tell you the story of Gab first few checks I didn't know what to do with them. So I just stopped him in the glovebox of my of my truck and then I realized holy smokes they were like half a million dollars of checks in my glove box right now. So this is in strange to you Jamie at all. No not at all not at all. How would you? Sort of mentioned. Social media second ago. How would would you advise? Your clients to have if they are going to be active on twitter to have two accounts, one, the public account and to the burner account or is used to call it egg accounts. So you can see what people are saying or what the conversation is without actually having to follow people or engage. You know I thing I tried to tell them if you're going to dip your toes and social media. Be. Knowledgeable of social media know what you're getting yourself into some have no idea and they don't fully realize what twitter is even I remember having to and you don't think that you would ever have to have these conversations. I had to explain to one of our older players what twitter was years ago. And I'm like well, twitter's twitter and he's like, what do you mean? I, don't understand what is that. I and you're trying to find the words but you kind of just assume. knows. What that is, and I'm like. Well, you could send a tweet and he's like, what's The tweet? So the biggest thing I can tell them is is. To just make yourself knowledgeable. Ask questions to social media can make or break you unfortunately. And, some of our players are great. Tory crew is a perfect example. He is so great on social media. He is so funny he's so witty, appropriate easy and other players would rather have nothing to do with it that they don't even care about it. They don't want to be involved in it. It's almost too much for them. If a player has, let's just say a player has a bad night. Goes Maya's five or something like that. How quickly do you reach out? How often do you reach out Lewis usually talks to them that night he will reach out pretty much right away we try to stay on top of things as. which I mean, we know when bad may happen and we know one good news happen. But Lewis will reach out to that player right away that night and sometimes they'll write back and sometimes they won't especially how bad the night was. But they need a little reassurance sometimes and unless you're in it and in the business and know how stuff works sometimes. You're one of the only people they can really relate to at that moment what are the hardest discussions you have to have with your clients you players? That that's another good one Elliott hurt US discussions. Hardest discussions are when A player wants to go to a team I guess I would say I'm not team doesn't want that player. That's a hard discussion to have when you know you have a player and they're like, all right. Well, these are my top three teams I was loved to play there and it's hard discussion to have when. None of those teams want your player. And it's all right. You have to go back to the drawing board that's a hard discussion, but you just have to do it unfortunately. Okay. Just as as a dovetail to that one. Then when you have a player who really wants to play for a team and that team is interested in him but at a much lower rate than another team that also wants him, what are those discussions like? I'm sure some players like I grew up a huge bruins fan. It would mean everything to my parents to see me play for the Bruins. Well, that's great. But Elliot's got a whopper of an offer rate over here. How are those discussions? Yeah. That's a discussion usually where it. Okay. What would the Bruins need to offer you? For you to turn La down. That's the hard discussion, and that's where they have to almost mentally come up with a number or how much is la going to have to offer you to blow Boston out of the water and you say I will go here for any amount of money for that amount of money I don't care you know maybe that's not my top choice, but I don't care and that's what you have to mentally prepare them for, and they have to come up with those numbers and it's important to do that earlier rather than later because they have to be ready for when it was teams come in with those numbers. Whether they like the numbers or not from both sides. So what have you found listen we've lived the salary cap. Now going back to two thousand five what do you find is most important to players outside of compensation I mean there are caps and there's team caps and there was rookie there's caps inside of caps in this system right now what are the other things that are most important to players today in the NHL I think living now where you're gonna live I, think the living situation I. Think they all are kind of late now very aware of that. I think where they're gonNA raise their kids where they're gonNA raise their family. I think travel to I think the way the schedule has been recently that some of the travel schedules are not easy anymore for some of these teams and players are starting to ask that question and starting to realize that and be more aware of that. How much of you warn players go for example, going into a lockout or going into coming out of this you know worn them saying, Hey, guys, you know the market's GonNa be tight, save your money. How much of that is discussed a lot. We're very fortunate that Lewis is actually a CPA and we do all of our players tax returns here so There's no downtime here basically, but that is so beneficial to our players because you know we do projections all the time with them like. You know, let's say this and you know you gotTa Watch your money for this and this could happen this year. So at least. Louis is such financial knowledge on their situation to help them not only now but also from when they're done playing, you know he told me right away when I always started. It's not about this contract that the player's GonNa sign it's about their career. You can't think of just what are they gonNA sign right now it's what are they going to sign Mac then next and what are they gonna sign after that and then what are they going to do after they're done plan? So I think that Is something that He is so in tune with, and that's so important especially now after what we're going through. So how do players Jamie want to be told about trades remember Nazem Kadri. Feeling a little bit miffed that he was called by Columbus on the phone and not told face to face to which I always maintained in the world of social media it's better to hear it by a phone call. Then read a tweet about it before the other side contacting you how to players want to be told that they've been traded. I think a phone call is sufficient. I mean, we find out stuff on social media before it even happens. Now that I think face to face, you can't. You don't even have time to talk to somebody face to face now before it's out on twitter or somewhere else. So I. Think Phone Calls Sufficient and I think most NHL teams you know the GM call right away as soon as it happens and they'll let you know but I just think you don't have time for face to face stuff is stuff is getting out way too fast. More and more women are getting jobs in hockey. We've seen Alexandria in Seattle for example, and she's got a pretty bright future emily cast on gay just represents now the Alexi live the the number one pick in the NHL draft. What advice would you give to young women who are going to listen to this and say I would be interested in doing that I guess I would say that don't be intimidated and just really I. Mean Sports are for Everyone I. Guess you know we we see all those campaigns and they really are though for everyone I'm a mom to. which our players laugh about that all the time they found that out a lot about about that during covert when I would talk on the phone and I would have to apologize when there'd be two screaming girls in the background. But just put yourself in a good position. You know I think I'm fortunate enough that Lewis taught me so much and it gave me the opportunity to realize that just because you know I'm a female and I love sports that doesn't mean that I can't you know be actively involved in it. What's maybe one misconception that you learned about the business that you thought was true about working in the business that wasn't true or something you thought no way and it was true. I guess I didn't realize the. How amazing these players are and how much you would start to almost consider them family Torey Krug on Friday when that whole situation and his signing went down. You know I was in the Office by eight am and I think it was twelve fifteen am when I finally got everything over and formalized with St Louis and that's when he sent me a tax and then I know today was a really long day. Thank you so much for everything today, and that just shows again that these are players than you. You care about them. You care about their family you care about their decisions where they're going to end up I speak to the wives a lot to kind of talk them off the ledge a little bit, and just reassure them that everything will work out with this will work out. And, I, think that's what really helped me realize what sports is all about and. that. These are just people to. Last question that I have for you sort of winks at the the last one that Elliott mentioned and you find in, we talk a lot about women in hockey on this podcast. Do you find that the guys find it easier to up to you? Than to another guy. I think sometimes because I can almost be that. A little more relatable I. Guess if that makes sense than you know an older man who is your agent, you know their stuff that they'll tell me that they'll that I'll say don't worry this. You know it never leaves this conversation it will you know Louis doesn't even have to know about that and I think in that sense sometimes I also think they know I can relate to their wife to if they're married or girlfriend that. Not, a big component to you know I I called Tori on Friday and I said to him at one point I said. I care how you're doing but how mel doing? That's who I. Really WanNa Know How is she doing all this? and. Because I really do I sympathize with her too it's not just about him. It's about her and it's about her their daughter. So I think in way it helps them times. Actually. It's funny. You bring that up because I've told a story before I had a conversation with one player and he was saying like I've heard what you guys say about me on TV I go we'll do you watch it and he goes no my family tells me and I said to them tell your family to stop telling you what's being said on TV because it's always worse. How much do you have to manage a players family whether it's a partner whether it's parents siblings anyone how much do you have to manage that sometimes a lot Some families are a little more over the top and others. Some are easy summer. Great. Some parents from the time we take on the. You know their son we will never hear from them the entire time. And some families. We're really really close with that. They're kind of like our own family. Sometimes, we have to tell parents to back off I. Remember Louis had to tell a player's father years ago you need to back off you need to stop and. Essentially. Saved the player's career. It really did the dad was a little too much over the top and he was getting involved too much and once Louis did that the player really got. On a better track and a better route and it ended up saving the player's career. Was it a New Zealander be good role or see-sawed which one was it really be none of the above I can actually say. All right we've we've taken enough of your time. I know you're busy. Your office always is Thanks for spending a big part of your day with us today Jamie. This has been a real eye opening and and learning interview it's It's been at the lights continued success both in your role as as babysitter of of doctors also babysitter of hockey players we we appreciate your time today. And thank you by. Having me. Jamie Bozo. Really interesting informative conversation a lot to take away their the stuff on dealing with whether it's William Neulander in his contract negotiations Brandon Saad trade most recently the free agency anybody Saint Louis of their client Torey Krug. A lot of interesting things Elliott, and the thing that I found fascinating was how she talked about how they put together different types of packages and essentially prepped Tori crew for the free agent market place. Well first of all, let me just say when she talked about Johnny grow showing up in Flannel Pajama Pants. I lost the ability to do it in the interview because it kind of passed its time, but I did the interview and Flannel Pajama Pants. So I can empathize Johnny Goodwill I would like to say I, support his fashion choice all those years ago. There was a lot there. I thought was was really interesting and you know she's always going to be careful. She can't really come out and say everything she wants to tell us. You have to be guarded you have to keep some things privately, but I've found in the land I mean there's a lot of high profile stuff there and the neulander thing about you know that whole negotiation, how tough it was, and you know don't screw around get this thing signing, get it back or else you're not going to be playing this year. The GOODRA Steph autographs is pretty funny too like she's just a wonderful person and so talented what she does and and quite valuable to Louis Gross Ok WanNa. Let you. Know as well and a couple of days you're going to hear another podcasts. From us, I know last week we were we were taking a break and this time we mean it, but we want to do these two podcasts. So the one you just listen to what Jamie Basel was one the other is with a how should I describe him Elliott irate or maybe an annoyed Adam oates I would say annoyed as opposed to irate. So really quickly tease how the podcast that people will here in a couple of days came together. We'll basically what happened was I was sitting around and he called and he was angry about something that he saw instagram a drill that a coach put on there for kids and he said that drill will not help a hockey player and so he wanted to do a podcast about how could help Better, drills. The, one time we had Adam oates on the feedback was fantastic and right away. It's get Adam oates back. So he is back here in a couple of days on the podcast and I think that you'll really enjoy it unless you are a hockey skills coach Elliott or unless you are a hockey coach. Because Adam kind of puts you guys on who's running terrible drills. Yeah. You're who's running terrible drills get the props off the ice. Here's what you need to start learning because you get put on blast by Adam oates, taking us out today, and again we think Jamie Basel for stopping by the podcast taking us out very talented artists from Edmonton Alberta last month Kelly Thomas released her five track EP. 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201: The Future of Torey Krug Hangs in the Balance & Salary Cap Issues Await w/ Conor Ryan

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32:13 min | 11 months ago

201: The Future of Torey Krug Hangs in the Balance & Salary Cap Issues Await w/ Conor Ryan

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Luckily we were, we had just started. And I was talking and all of a sudden. We do this, so we can see each other and you froze up I was like. Maybe! He's looking at his computer screen, but he's been doing the same facial expression for like thirty seconds, and his eyes have not moved as like I think might be froze so I just kept telling. Educating Really Focus Danny's. Evan. You like give that poker face staredown. Wow. But Yeah I mean you know I don't know what day of quarantine it as I was thinking the other day these days just blend like they just come and go There's no new memories that are at least it's not just same stuff every day at least for me and I think for most people sort of the same stuff. So. It's good to have things like these were. We can break it up at least do something. That's a little bit different. and I hope you guys. Listeners are doing the same with whatever it might be whether it be xbox like me, Netflix. Reading a book. A Bible study like the Bruins talked about on Monday. Brandon Carlo talked about that. Whatever your religion is! We run by freedom of religion on this podcast. I don't know if you knew that. So we support every religion but so there's no good way to to intro this. But we have to start talking or start with talking. About Colby Cave. Passing away on Saturday just tremendously sad. he'd went into a medically induced coma on Tuesday of last week, and then his wife Emily posted that they'd need a miracle on Wednesday, and then he passed away on Saturday. I did not ever have the privilege of covering him I don't think ever. You did with his twenty games with the Bruins I think last year What were your memories of him? Is Sort of what was your reaction to his death on on Saturday. Yeah I mean obviously just a absolute tragedy kind of just a shocking thing that Kinda came out of nowhere and. You know for one Koby up here. You know the my. Main impression, it's just the guy who is. Obviously very very dim. You're talking about a guy who. Together a great craft from off over in my you know the whol hockey, but you know wasn't drafted the two years here. Though sign with the Becker, Don over overnight whol sporkes since way up from being a guy who I think you know you, you know coach with by Bruce Cassidy over a couple of years in Providence, and he was kind of you as more of a project or a bottom six age Guy Kinda known. You know defensively responsible kind of food, and you just kind of I like working off, you know. Beyond player that warranted you know a chance to show. Is You know it's up the of the NHL level and you know I remember looking. You know asking to the old audio last year. cassie talking about it see. They had a special connection and. Cathy was one of the biggest orders in terms of what he brought not only on the ice, but as a guy who he. had. You Know Twenty one twenty two years old. Even know be kind of set himself of being guy who's already. You know a leader you know. Guys HR level, and you look at so many of those guys junior and they they make a big jump up and of the discovering skill or the you know the next level. These guys have to reach. Coming from the W. H. O. as captain and really kind of already established book an extra. kind of attention to Kinda just guy he was. And you know the way to build relationships and you know, and the days following into the kind of Guy Kobe in terms of now I was reading stories about how you know when you go, she the aid shell in the NHL his when he was with. He would go and you know I. Think they said that you or stay goodbye to every single employee NHL Happy to be in the moment, happy to be doing this for a living and was. Put in so much work to kind of get to this level you know cargo to. A long career for himself in pro hockey and You know I. It's just a tragedy. Look at just you know guy who is, so you know you so full of energy such a a positive influence. You generally appreciated the opportunity that he himself carved out for himself and know to lose a guy like that You know twenty five years old. You know it's just got married this past summer. I mean it's just an absolute tragedy on to say the least it's tough. Yeah I know it's terrible. You know, and I am one of the things you mentioned the leadership aspect every statement about him from the Bruins. Of The instagram posts and tweets mentioned how he was such a leader, and he carried himself that way. I mean this year just socks. I the twenty twenty is just terrible, and and obviously his death has nothing to do with eerily, but it's just. It's been such a rough year, and it's only April. And you know God. Bless the the cave family. And obviously we send our condolences to just just terrible news I mean really. Awful News and you know obviously gone way too soon. and yeah. I mean really had some serious potential there and the leadership aspect was very interesting to me. Especially there. So shifting gears a little bit here. The bruins have started having zoom media abilities. They had Torey Krug last week. They had don sweeney on Friday. They had rented Carlo on Monday. And then they just sent out an email. They'll have Charlie coyle on Wednesday. So, the interesting part was they had crew. Go I obviously the big question with cruise. What's up with your contract? Where are you at right now? He says they have not had any talks over this time of the pandemic. which I guess makes some sense. There's a couple more important things to worry about, but still they had not happened. Yeah. There's there's only a pandemic going on but there have been no talks talked about how he hopes. He has not played his last game as a bruin. John Sweeney came on Friday and said we hope the same. We just haven't found common ground yet. This, feels like a little turning point to me. This feels like a time. where I have thought it's been. A pretty good chance the entire time. That crew comes back. These comments. Kinda made me think there. There's a good chance he might not be back. Did you get that same feeling from the comments last week? Yeah I think it's one of those situations where I. You know I think in a perfect world they'd both. been crew wants to stay here. He's mentioned. Multiple Times that you can take a deal. You know of below his Michael Value for. Guy What he brings. You know to to stay here. I mean you've seen that. Be The case. You know go down and listen to guys who've signed kind of like to stay in Boston and just kind of a testament of you know the team an organization. They built here, but The bruins that would would want him back like you know I think Wanna Max out this two to three year window. You can have where you. Know, your core that's still operating at a high level, and you've got players who are now adding in that town and you get better I think keep improved on line hopes you Max. You know that that window but I think it's just you know. I, think in a perfect world. You know they get that deal, but I mean there's so much. Up in the now in terms of the salary cap? They don't really know what to expect. you know he's going to be available for them to expand? Because it was funny, you know you look back at the first week of March and you know The NHL pretty much said you know after the Board of governors meeting, they're expecting a pretty sizable jumping the cap like you're looking at going from one and a half million to anywhere between eighty four and eighty eight point two, so like you're looking at between you know two and a half to like over you know over six million in additional cafes and good ruined doing backflips because. Because, you know they've done a good job that you're adding talent, but also you know shaving one of that extra caps face off so going into this off season, right? You are cutting off four and a half million out of the baggage contract. You're saving one point three million with the Dan Hind intrigued and they got about three million, coming off the books with Bindi. Or bio ending and I think you had a lot of deferred money from black, so you don't all that money off and that's what they it's like. You know if that cap was eighty eight point two, which are probably wouldn't be the case. Anyway, 'cause. The jump in but like. You know we'll say it's like that they had. They would have twenty seven million cap space available like they got around guys to time, but a lot of our RFA's, and it's like all right. You see 'em all our face. You know between the you know. The one million three million dollar range where scores scores. Laker, abrazos. Those guys, but then it's like all right. Just crew seven million you got. A walkie what you you WANNA do their belie- you know they? They were going to have enough room that they re up? All those guys to within you know the market value like through. Get you know seven and a half seven million a year, and they would happily space left over now. If they WANNA, have you GONNA get right up against it or you're GONNA have to make other other moves to class space, so if you're the break now you view that as all right, do wanna be up against the cap again next year when we should be setting aside some money for when Kalo gets paid again for when mcevoy gets paid again. I could see bruins. You know like they. They won't crew back like if there's a place where they'd have to take a hit, you know you you. You know look kind of the pipeline of on defense coming up and say like all right, we can emit keys to the power. Play the girls look. He's looked anyone children at times on that on that spot and then up be Hispanic like. He's still working with Marsh Aon and posture. Knock and all these guys on the power play like there's still going to be buried. Without Him but again. It's kind of a tough call because I think the bruins ideally would wanna deal Dan just you know whether or not the this little, Kaplan, it's really hinder them because I think the only what crew brains and you know, obviously, what does the ice? I think they really guy. He's got him a walker, or he's you know in twenty look Bruins, rockstars. You know the the old guy guys you've got here for. For a decade, plus and then you've got like a few guys who were like Twenty, eight, twenty seven. Coil Crew Wagner you know Crowley Guy Batch, and you've got these guys like mock boy, and all these guys is younger like you really value a guy who's been there for a long time that it's kind of that bridge between you know. There's two different groups of the roster like I. WanNa have attack for a long time. It's just. With the now the uncertainty, what the cat's GONNA BE I. Don't really like for, so they have an idea. You know maybe the. egregiously slight. Just because they know this is kind of a situation in that unprecedented, you know, and they like they take a hickory idea. You're going to see them. Get into the until you know. They haven't. To capture. That you said it perfectly I mean the value of Tori crew cannot be talked about enough. I mean it brings everything the leadership aspect. A lot of people think. As these veterans retire, he'll be a assure assistant captain. You know the power play obviously me. The numbers have been said so many times offensively. He's so good defensively. He's gotten a lot better play. Kim With Carlo has been a very good defensive pairings so. I. Mean I think it's such a much bigger story if you lose him I mean if you keep him you keep all of his benefits. Your power play stays pretty much, probably the same You. Also have to thank you know. The future of Chara you know, where is he? Sweeney, says they they WANNA. Try to bring them back for next season he will probably won't cost a lot, but the leadership aspect when he goes. You want someone on that back. Who's going to have that? Leadership seems like crew could probably be that guy. And then I mean. If you know you'll have to thank you know if Krueg goes. You know you're probably losing Chara after next season. Most likely because it feels like he's probably going to be back for next season, so it'd be after next season. You lose, you know. Let's say crew sign somewhere else. You lose crew, Chara. What's your defensive car mcevoy Carlo? You know on that left side. Grizzlies year top left shot defensemen Lasagna I mean you re it really puts things up in limbo, and you don't want that defensive core. To be you know to go from elite to Yang Lin experienced. Potential, but not as good as it is right now. But again that hinges on whether or not Chara goes. There's way could save some a little bit of money and salary cap. That's that's. Yeah and and also don't forget in terms of You know looking ahead. Don't forget that. Let's say you know because you're top left pair defensive. Don't forget the NHL. Ready to? Talk, one of those guys! very soon I. Looking at. Our, our lows on if he continues to play, the way is in the contract evolved steel like actually going into to guy. Most likely you could see them. Getting if they're getting, you know quality. Look there and channing goal. Oh. Totally, that's the other thing and so you've all these these factors I mean. You've gotta find a way. To get crew resigned I. Think it's it's so imperative. Easily one of the most valuable bruins on the team bring so much. So, you also had a piece this week I. Think it was your latest notebook on. How you know, yeah, the bruins are screwed by this cap, but their two biggest rivals in the Atlantic may believes in the lightning. have it a little bit worse. I want you to go a little bit more into detail on what you wrote and sort of how the lightning and the maple leafs. Obviously we all kind of make fun of the Maple leafs for having their top guys. Signed to these lucrative contracts. But now we're GONNA start to see the the the ramifications of these, and you know sort of what was your take on all that. Yeah, I mean again you look at the what's the CAP stays out flat for next year eighty one half million like the Brune. You know they have to have you know. Take a long look at their roster. especially the crew but you know they still have you know I think project can have a twenty million phase. You know if if they go at any on a half limit. So you know you have to worry about cruel, but other than that you should be able to you know. Re up all your IRA fade. You know I'm like you know. It's not like any one of those situations you had to trade. Johnny, boy, shocker, or situation like that or Where they'd have to sell off. You know a prime candidate. Just get under the cabinet. Anything that that you could like Toronto Tech Okay. Though and it's funny with you know we're talking about how limited this Cup when the Bruins and then. You know that has some marriages. Can You? How you know the key cogs are getting older older, but. You look at next year caps Asia. This level like Toronto Tampa Bay, most likely probably going to be taking a step back to cause their own stituations. They're going to happen. Probably sell off. You know a pretty solid piece you just to say under the Kaplan and not just add to. You Know Russians that are trying to get over the top. You know you look at you know. Toronto is going to enter next year and a half million with just one point six million available cafes granted. This is after GONNA lose cody. And Tyson Barrie on the Blue Line. Like those guys bomb on I don't see how they're. Re those guys that. Limited. Space. You've already not that good Jewish tracking from those guys like Barry and and. Defensive Shutdown guys either you know right. You're losing them. You still got like very talk. Heavy forward Ford core Probably you know. What what do you do like? They need to add to that blue on like there's no, you're looking at the situation, right? You know bigger price trade like Andre Johnson hurt this year, but like even if want to add like a legitimate, top four guy or or something like that like you. You have to trade like another guy who's pretty keen. Your Middlesex like occur or like you have to like trade like William Newland, or you guys just get a an impact, defense and act because. I didn't see how like. This tennis Toronto team was just so skilled up trump with such an obvious flaw. With their defense I don't know how you're. Improving that that that's a flaw on Iraq. Stare through agency when you don't have any money right? Yeah, it's wild how you look at this team and it's what you look at recruits and how they're. They're building like you will get. You got not used in minor and new ended or any time to bars. You know still in his prime right now or like all right teams should be. You know a cup contender for the next five. You know five. Years and like it just shows you how mismanaging. The cap can really limit when you're gonNA find guys went decay, Gel and you calling up with some projects. 'cause like it's not gonNA. Help you get over that. Hump Toronto really rough that you know i. don't really know what exactly they're gonNa do to add you know to fix that problem and then you look at Tampa Bay Tampa Bay's. My balanced is you don't have like A. Serious flaw like Toronto is like they're like argument shape because they got less guy that you'd want to sell off 'cause like you know bad, you know. Ideally want keep because I think they're gonNa Gorge next like just over five million and cap space and they've got a fine. let's see they gotTA. Find Anthony Sarah. WHO's RFA. Who Really Blocking this year? You kinda reminds a little bit, but when Po Point maybe a few years ago like A. Solid you know top six like two way forward who I think he was on pace for like you know if he points this year that he could be a guy that could explode and. The year two. He's due for a big pay. Raise cal surrogates have who always sees an offensive minded anthony. Still guys twenty one years old, even Rsa. Eric Chernick is You know a very solid. You know you know guy who can play heavy minutes on on your on your decode on the team at already has Ryan mcdonagh and be like he's. He's an essay. Are you going to like just like one of these guys go? You got to trade them. Just recap relief because I grocery. You'RE GONNA. You know trade offering that team that allows you to resign. These are as 'cause. You know going GonNa have five million, and that's you know with letting Kevin Shattenkirk. Oh, no, Zach Pagoda really wasn't that good this year, but like he's A. You know a veteran guy You know there's so many other patroon guy who's been rushing trade and under agents alike. You know that team like how many lives are as they gotta sign like the five million I i. don't know what you do there because. I mean sorority should be making probably like. Three and a half, minimum or million a year, maybe were they. Gail like. That? They're going to like subtract from already. Pretty loaded Ross or just to get under the CAP, not only just. You know to add to this group and that's Kinda why you saw them having a trade, you know I. Get a guy like buckling grow like it'd be rose not worth. Under. Forty hundred contractor next year at a reasonable cap, so they you know they. Chemo pay the premiums. They haven't guy with ten at she because they know they won't have any money this year. Not expecting them to have the capi eighty four eighty eight million dollars. I mean anyone anywhere in the half their big. They like. You might have to give away. You know one of these. Young players they have, and that's you know that's another thing. We're trying to cash in on their window now. So you know the Bruno during the spot like we need to recruit. Would really really soccer like there spot will. Give away like all right like were accepting. We can't find mcevoy two years, so we have to trade him. Spot like that. It's a few other teams might be facing student this off season you don't. You don't know when could be. December could be an October. It can be in June but. That's the thing and and the and the crazy part. Is You know? This is kind of. Everybody nobody people thought the capital go up. Nobody thought that this. This season, which was so important for the lightning, the Bruins, and even the leafs who are technically eight seed in the east, no all very important seasons in their quest for the cup to try to cash in. For the Maple leafs again like what you kind of touched on it very well, is there are very front heavy team like their big. Knock the reason they can't get past. The first round is because of their defense. Their defense of core is not good enough to get them past to to balance out that offense, and it's only going to get worse most likely with this with with the if the cat doesn't move. And with the lightning you look at that team. That team is stacked. You know and it's been that way. They went to the Cup and Twenty fifteen. Better, the conference final sense. That's a team that you know looks as good as it ever has. It'll probably miss a good chance. I mean everyone talked about this year. How the Bruins and the lightning in the second round were probably going to be for the Stanley. Cup, potentially I mean it. Those were the two real favorites coming out of the East and now that's gone. Another chance to cup is gone for the lightning, and if they're trading guys off, if they can't get under the cap with the guys they have, and they lose these young forwards central young defenseman. That team might never went a cup because of it when you think about it, so. That team again we've been Wade. They're kind of I feel like the lightning are turning out to be the new capitals like they're so good and we're waiting for them to cash in. On a Stanley Cup. And there are dangerous team. They're good in that. They're defray on offense. They've got a great defensive core but they just can't see me over the Hump. And obviously you know drew. Doughty came out this afternoon, said that the pro. He doesn't see a way that they're gonNA. Have a season I know it's a player, but still I mean that's a pretty big thing to come out and say so. It's Y. King, so he wants. To end like. My. Those my first reaction I saw that and I was like yeah I'd say the same shit if I was in on that crab team like I'd be like. Yeah, how the hell are we going to finish the season off? But yeah I mean. Again like? The salary cap is such. A bitch because the problem is you know these teams want have these tiny cup windows, and now it's down even more so I thought your piece was great because it sort of everyone's focused on the Bruins at least Boston. Obviously, but it's like you know. Their competition is not going to be getting much better, either, but again if you lose Torey Krug if you lose Tori, crude because of it. That probably trump's what what happens with these teams unless something drastic I mean I think the as you touched on it i. think with the Maple leafs. It's GonNa be a forward William De Lander in a one for one deal for defenceman. You look a Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson. Along those lines? Where you're trying to get. You're trying to get that big number. One Defense Adam Larsson but they're. They're going to need to do something along those lines kind of what they did with Nasim Cadre to get a t to bring Tyson Barrie. Ironically enough. That's imploded in their face. Because Barry's going to be gone this offseason. But it is very interesting. And Yeah I mean. That's pretty much it for Bruins. News right now I don't think there's a ton. To. Discuss side from those things again. Like a host I'm trying to str- stretch. These topics out I'm not trying to kill all these topics of one episode like Charles Future's going to be something we talk about in the future and it could go into the conversation, but like why waste right now so before before taking bullet during this stretch. I gotta I gotTA. Keep some mo my bag pod. So Connor As we go into the stretch. You've actually doing great work over Boston Sports Journal. What are you working on right now? And what can people sort of look forward to over there? Yeah, obviously ruin. Kind of a interesting strategy had been like prolonged off seasons, though it's not ideal by any means. A whole bunch of stuff you break down both looking at this year and obviously kind of situation ahead, not just from the obviously the impact. What's going on right now? But from a team perspective I half or progression of some of these players, and just trying out how long this this couple really into for the team because I think it's I. Don't think again. Worst case scenario, they can't finish. This year's like going to watch where I'm coming I personally don't think so, but again there's so many different factors can weigh in for that, but you know to chart like how long this team can stand is a Bible. Say like you know top four team in the NHL Guy a team that you really pencil and this very season to make a deep run in the post, so people a whole bunch. Bunch of stuff you know we taking advantage of some time off to work in a few more features, a few kind of deeper dive into some numbers and stuff like that, so who have stuff up You know you know throughout the weeks you know trying to stretch, and obviously as we get more news on the state of this season team. That news changes every couple of hours. You know, so we'll have a whole bunch of. Bostonsportsjournal, so we take on on there. And I also it's good as you know. We're sort of at the point in quarantine where you know the obsession with the virus maybe I'm wrong, maybe speaking for myself year, but the obsession with the virus in the news regarding the virus is. Not Passing, but I have more of a care for other things like I want to read. You know stuff that has nothing to do with the virus, so I think that's sort of how people feel as well like everyone of coming back to reality all right. Let's care about things we used to care about before like sports, even though there isn't any on I'm so sick of the the replays, unlike the the old games like I really don't i. don't care anymore like it doesn't. It doesn't interest me. You know how it. I know I and the other thing is. The other thing that I know. I can't I exactly I. Never quite understand. Why essence, playing the entire cup run I would rather than play the best playoff games, or even just all the winds I feel like that so much more interesting than watching a game in which lose four to one against the lightning in game. One of the twenty eastern. Conference final. Nobody actually cared about that. They just want to see the win but yeah, so that's it for this week. We hope you guys are enjoying these episodes, and PRISCILA media. I'm Marinov Sqi. 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195: Boston Bruins News & Updates As The 2019-20 Offseason Continues

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195: Boston Bruins News & Updates As The 2019-20 Offseason Continues

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We going right now right now, we're going to talk about like you said Stanley Cup this set of Dallas took game one against Tampa Bay. I was a little surprised and How Deeply they did take game online, but you know it was on there but suddenly there seems to be one of the things I this week for me is do you think we should have kept Anton khudobin and let took ago because clearly Dobby is might win the Stanley Cup match what I mean the narrative this week. I just thought it was kind of silly to bring up as much as I do love Tom. Jobin, but I think it is kind of crazy that one of the Bruins takes this week, especially from the fan base that has nothing to do but still thought about what might happen with our team cuz we have heard nothing from the front office's. What do you think about that? The only reason why people were saying that is because he's having such good success right now dead. And it honestly got and I've been going back and forth on Twitter and people at work telling me that they should have they kept the wrong goaltender. No, listen if Anton khudobin was playing in Boston and this Dallas defense was in front of him as Bruins. Yes, I could see the success if Anton who do open was in Boston with his current defensive Corps. There's no way they get in this far and there's no way he's doing this good. The team is just on a wagon right now. They are doing good good for him good friends on October and it's awesome. It's a great story. He's an old veteran goaltender. He deserves this it and and I hate the Tim Thomas comparison drives me nuts, but I know I cannot stand that but it's just the way it is. I mean once anybody goes elsewhere and they have success. It doesn't matter if it's like five years ten years, whatever they're like, oh wow. To get there. A couple of that guy. It's just maddening. I was thinking that one I was looking at the phase of right wings that I might want on my team. I was like, oh cool. This is half of the people. We like in California cuz you know, I hold over like good luck. I'm personally conference loyal. So unless Calgary's in the final the last time always going to vote for whoever is in the East unless it's Montreal cuz I'd rather I'm so full of Tampa Bay. Yeah, and I went online, but I went to bed online. Ag and put a a bet on top of winning the whole thing. Yeah. So that's like we all on board know what I love to see Anton khudobin just play as way for Stanley Cup good for him. I would be very happy for him. I don't care either way my team bottle in a camp of the day, but I'm conference oil. So no, we're not all in agreement. We want Dallas to win cuz I don't like korte Pari. So yeah, so I just wanted to bring that off. I don't I don't know what you had kind of put something on Twitter earlier and I didn't know who just circle back for a second again would just trying to do a roundabout real quick to get through but about the Jacobs aren't going to be able to pay employees or something and a lot of the teams Jimmy Murphy wrote an article on Boston hockey now about the Jacobs family could possibly not being able to not going to spend up to the cap which is going to be flat for at least a year or two that's projections right now at 81.5 million month. And I think this is going to be Landscapes across the league because the fact is what's going on with the pandemic and so on and these these Arenas are not allowing fans in this building. So there's no Revenue coming in and it's all mostly it's all TV Revenue. Some of the lower markets are not going to get huge numbers in the TV Revenue scheme. Things so Jimmy wrote an article and mentioned that the Jacobs might not be able to spend up to the ceiling which it doesn't automatically mean they going to be a terrible team but it also puts into retrospect and what they're trying to do the season on bringing in some free agents during the free agent. To get ready for the upcoming season whenever that starts sneezing so many different stories right now that it could be December. It could be January could be January 15th. The 15th number is proper Elliott Friedman cuz there was a a press conference on Saturday with commissioner Gary Bettman. So there's a lot of things that are going on a lot of moving parts and but they're doing the due diligence to get everything in order right now because that's what you have to do and and with the situation like this is plan ahead and be prepared for whatever comes at the time. Yeah, I'm not surprised people can't pay their bills. Everything has dropped off but I still don't think it's right not to pay your employees the way I feel about it. Is this everyone's going to have to get through. It sucks that people get for a load and all of that, you know, not so in planning for next year daily and that and we'll talk about it maybe more next week, but they had a press conference to and it's just it is we keep saying it and everyone keeps saying that this league is not going to be the same for a couple years. I think it's too condensed of a schedule if they don't start until after you know what I mean? They have to at least start maybe the Winter Classic is the first kicks off the games. They can still have the Winter Classic they're big like showcase game or whatever, but you can also have other teams start that day to do. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'll also make the Winter Classic game. I think a little more special cuz it's kind of losing its lesser a little off. Did they already call that didn't they already say know when to Classic No, All-Star Game don't know if they handle bye week. I know no bye week the but nothing I don't think has been official. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's all they're still negotiating all of that stuff. At least. I haven't seen like a presser about like this is how the situation going to roll out, but it's going to be interesting a lot of clubs, but you know I do feel bad for the employees. But I also understand like big businesses have taken a giant hit to do. You know what I mean? Especially October the NHL they have like a quarter of the revenue every other major sports does anyways, you know, so well you messed it up. They at least had more money to mess it up with than these guys did a lot of folks don't understand the the the Jacobs family is off. Their company is spread league-wide their concessions are all over the NHL. It's not just it's not just in Boston. So when they're taking a hit the taking a huge hit. I do understand that the employees should come first. They don't always in the Jacob size. I get that but folks really need to stop looking at what the company in the family package valued at those are asked that numbers. This is not what they have. You know, I mean, I don't know the term of it cuz I can't think of it right now, but when you have a business, that's Thursday. Say Barstool Sports 450 million dollars because they they they joined together with Penn gaming. So but that that business is not they don't have 450 million dollars. That's all in assets. Yeah, it's like liquid assets. Exactly. That's that's the word I was looking for that I couldn't spit out. Yeah, I don't know what that's the actual term. But that's all I can think of right now. But yeah, no, you're right. It's not dead. Everybody's starting it just 2020 stocks. It does say it. Say it again. I thought it sucked before now. We got remote learning now. I'm just kidding. But in all seriousness off all businesses are hiring and I agree with you like although I certainly will beat on the Jacobs family when necessary. This is something like I mean Arizona can't even pay them rent. Like at least Jacobs owns the building and wage doesn't have to pay served. They get served papers what the thing they get served papers because they were behind in their rent. And and I don't remember cuz I've said it's been so crazy in the office here, but I know how long has that been going on that sits thinks and it's not just a month. No, I thought it said June they got like the bill was due in June and now it's September and now it's like your 90 days late. I mean, I don't know what the process is of evicting a hockey professional hockey team their own stadium, but that's crazy. It's just a weird thing. Yeah. Well, we really have we don't have time tonight, but we're going to get into it more obviously incoming weeks leading up to free agency or I'm sorry. I had to take a minute because I have to stop at the morning process of Torey Krug now or I'm going to be unbearable come October 9th, but there's obviously a lot of craziness people are talking about all these people we should get I feel like oh we can't pay tour group seven million yet. We can go pay someone like twelve million dollars some of these people. I know he just wanted to touch upon a little bit about I don't know how you feel about Petra Angelo or whoever I mean whatever you're talking about. Well are thinking of I don't I don't my dog. The idea of Alex pietrangelo just for the mad. I mean he is he is a really good defenseman. He jumps into the play. He does those types of table group things, but he's bigger and he's a little more defensive-minded. I love Tori and everything because he's mobile and you know, and he can be very good defensive. But he also makes mistakes everybody makes mistakes. I'm not going to go, you know in a tangent on that one. But yeah, I mean if they kick and tires on it, I'm not going to hate it. But the number that he's going to want is a little you know, it's it's mind-boggling but I'm I'm under the impression that if he doesn't sign now it remains to be seen if Petra Angelo is going to actually leave or sign. It's just it's just pure rumor right now, but if he doesn't sign with Saint Louis, and they're actually done wrong. And they want to move on because of the number that he wants I wouldn't be surprised honestly and I I think I heard this on the 31 thoughts that he might even go somewhere else to win and take less money and kind of and I'm I'm paraphrasing. I'm paraphrasing this on my own but kind of Stick it to Saint Louis and say listen, you really should have paid off but he might want to go to a Boston. He might want to go to Toronto. He might want to go anywhere that has a legitimate chance to win and and kind of give it to him, you know, but it's just tough to lose your captain after so many years. It is tough to uproot your family. His wife is from st. Louis. They met there so many years ago. So it's there's a lot of moving parts that are going on with with retaining and signing a player like that. So, I mean, I'd love to have them because you know, what's funny is he's getting older Heather, but he's now producing more offensive numbers as he wage. Juice, so if there's an opportunity to get them I wouldn't hate it, but the numbers just gotta be really cat friendly and if he comes in, you know, Tori Cruise absolutely gone. Well, here's the situation with Torey Krug generally, so I obviously as a Tory group fan, I'm sorry. This is Arling out the way it is. I just don't like knowing not knowing you know what I mean, like if it's whatever wage but my thing is a Bruins fan is that if you're going to ship crude out, what are you replacing him with right? So like I love Alex pietrangelo. I think it would be weird as a captain of the team who won the Stanley Cup to last year or whatever to take less money to win somewhere else when he has a perfectly functioning, you know, of course, it also depends what else Saint Louis doesn't you know, a lot of things are at the cap, but he's a right shot. So like we have to think say Sharon doesn't play as much if he is here if he's still here and if you like crew go with down to lecture of Defense job. And a chronic Su we have in our system. Do you know what I mean? Yep, so the when I look through and I see there's plenty of left shots that like maybe we could I know you throughout like Ron hainsey, I would rather I never said that I know a couple of weeks ago someone had brought up him and we had talked about him. I don't mean you said you had said generally you had said it out loud. I should I do have for Replacements if you want to talk about it. Can I just say what I'm going to say? This will make you happy? Okay. I'm looking at the list if the whole issue we can't give Tori money and you want to get a little the only person on the list that I absolutely solidly would want to pay is your boy friend and Dylan and he's the only one if I need a left shot that's bigger off and can play a little more defensive. He's the only one I like walking in and filling that role and trying to eat up both Tories offense and showers defense. Yeah. That's my say on that job. Brenden Dillon is a love shot defenseman and he currently makes three points of a million and the 2019-20 season nine years old. He's with Washington last year. He had one goal 13 assists 14 points that stuff too. I mean, I just I kind of think that they you know, they're on the path of moving on from Krug and his fifties sixties seventy Point numbers to get more defensive sound players more stay-at-home guys and more guys that have an edge that when you come in our Zone you're going to pay and I just kind of think that this team is going to get a lot more grittier. I don't like the path that's taking but listen, I'm chatting to buy in that this might be an aspect of the game that the Bruins are missing not saying big bad Bruins all the way through we don't need enforcers. We don't need this. We just need complementary players that can be tough job. In the zone if other teams can do it to us we should be able to do it to them. So I also have Mark borowiecki. He's a left shot left defenseman. He makes one point two million last season. He's a third-year thirty-year-old guy Senators last season. He had seven goals 11 assists 18 points and fifty three games. Another person to look at is probably TJ Brodie. He's a left shot right defenseman. But using that left shot you can possibly put him over the transition them to the home side little higher on the price though. He's a four point six million dollar defenseman. He's thirty years old to he's with Calgary last year. He had four goals 15 assists nineteen points and sixty four games played and then my last one that I would think about with the with the whole left shot thing, Dmitry kulakov. He's a little high too with the with the cap hit at four point three million last season and all these numbers that I'm going out our cap hits a a Visage actual salaries. So he's twenty-nine years old with Winnipeg last year. He had two goals eight assists ten points and 51 games. So often those guys right there basically for me, I just addressing a certain need and that's toughness and being more defensive sound. You're not going to get a ton of freaking often from you might get a a slapshot goal or off or anything like that, but you're not going to get an end-to-end rush like rube used to be a group can do on a regular but it's it's going to be interesting regardless. I mean, I'm just I'm I'm just throwing out some I'm not saying that these are players. I would love to have I would love to have a guy like Brenden Dillon that can be a bigger player, but be more offensive. You know, you're going to have to come in layers when you go against Tampa Bay. You need to come in layers. If you can't do it on the first line these defenseman that are coming through the neutral zone and coming into the offensive zone going to have to be able to put the puck in the net too. Yeah. That's why I mostly settled on Dylan as who I think would most fit into like rearranged the top four or whatever on our backend but I did I I mean, it's not that I didn't consider any well, it's all the last but my thing with we're making up for size, I don't want to lose too much of the offense cuz I'm not worried about grizzly McEvoy making up for the actual like, you know, points quote unquote or whatever and all that stuff. I feel like that being adjusted will lead to eating some more of the point maybe lost that you would get but if you're going to not sign Krug, then you better get yourself someone who's a little bigger, but you also don't want to sign someone to Old either because that's part of the arguing job. About arguing against true bright. There's not a lot of high. I don't want to say hi. And that's like unfair obviously the professional hockey players, but like people you don't want to spend too much, but you also don't want to get too little for what you are spending cuz I think that we also should be going out trying to get better in our top six in June. I don't want to spend all my money. So that's kind of why I started a long Dylan cuz he kind of gives me what I want and even if he gets a little pay raise it's not going to be as significant as Tori's hit with a guy and he's going to help you defensively, that's me. So that being said keep trying to think of a dream Winger for Christian the last we like blow our whole lives up or get rid of krejci and get into thing. I don't know what we're going to do about Upfront like maybe trying to get that in free agency. It just I don't know. So that was really a we'll talk about it more. I know you wanted to talk about trade rumors and stuff. But for the sake of doing this power podcast, they do you have much more to say about that anymore rumors and no. No, I actually think I actually do have some foul words. I'd like to touch on I think we should do the UFA is this week and possibly look into some traits and now Rios next week when we have a little more time at whatever I do really long. It depends on what Vancouver does with this guy, but Tyler toffoli is another one that I really want to grab if if available he plays the right side in the left on the wing he made four point six million last season. He's a 20-year twenty-eight-year-old forward. He had 24 goals 20 assists 44 points in so long. Eight games last season and if he's available and we can afford them. I definitely grab him another one. That's intriguing is if Guinea dad enough job Chris by a ski he from tops off hockey. He mentioned him in a recent article that was published today. He's four million dollars last season. He's 31 years old I play for the Florida Panthers last year and he had 25 goals 20 to assist 47.69 games played, you know, I'm going to get these guys that a little older and longer in the tooth more towards the thirties, but they're still effective players lettuce of thoughts on domestic off. He plays all three forward positions so he could very versatile. He made four million last year. I was twenty-seven years old with the Avalanche. He had 17 goals 14 assists 31.65 games and then if you want to just a complimentary player that's going to be just that that hard-nosed type of player. I know I think I mentioned it before Tomas nosek. He plays sent left-wing. I'm sorry Center left wing and he only makes a million bucks. So he's twenty-seven years old with the golden knights last year. He had eight goals. Seven assists 15.67 games. You really don't know what these guys can do with a different change of scenery. He'll put it that way, you know, you could probably get the best out of them with the Boston club that page is constantly, you know, making the playoffs they're always kind of in in there, you know, they're really good team during the regular season. So you might be able to see some of these guys really shine and be that song. That small investment that is is a high reward. But these aren't things that I'm you know, guaranteeing or anything like that. It's just something that I'd like to see them look at 4 for the price and if they have the cap space to deal it, you know and who knows we've heard several times in the past couple of weeks that Don Sweeney and and and off and management. They want to make a big splash and and they want to make big changes. So we'll see what happens with that. See I think the big changes are going to happen on the front end. Something's going to get caught up there whether it's in the system, you know, like someone who maybe isn't I mean I'm not saying, you know, whatever like I'm not in the craziest getting traded camp, but there are a lot of medium sized people who I think fans would be upset about you know, what I mean really would change the dynamic on the scene a lot. I haven't really pondered all the essays on the forwards Club. There's so much to think about on the front end. What are we going to do with the kids down in Providence? What are we going to you know, like how're we going to get rid of some money? Like I'm with it's just so much to think about because whether you sign Torey Krug or not, this team still does not have that much cap to sign what they need and it's going to be interesting on how Don Sweeney makes money happened. You know, like can we move John more? Can we I don't know so I'll revisit the forward section because there's just so much cuz I that I can't get out of my head cuz I think we need more wage movement up there than we do on the defense. Do you know what I mean? I That just me but speaking of kids in the system. What's his? I'm sorry. What's this Oscar seen his rights were traded from the Swedish League get asked to cage. I think Sochi I don't quite remember, I believe that's what it was the other day that was interesting to me because I'm not like you I don't know everything about rage contracts and I know like sort out things move, but I just thought that was funny how you can love somebody out and then their rights to be long Doan can be moved somewhere else and stuff. Like well, it's kind of it's kind of like the North American style of hockey. You could be a college player right and see a a but you can also be drafted into priority draft by Canadian hockey league team. So like Jack John becher he plays for the the oh my God, Minnesota Wolverines, but his dead. Writes in the Canadian hockey league belonged to the Sioux Saint Marie Greyhounds. So when when steam was playing over in Sweden and it's generally gigs and when he's got drafted an essay a KHL team actually drafted him so they hold his rights and doesn't mean he's going anywhere. It's just a it's just bought the rights to move. Yeah, so he's still going to be in the in the shl playing over there until the NHL training camps happen over here in North America seen will be with a girl wins for that and then filtered down to the American Hockey League whenever that League stats up or whenever Camp starts up in that particular minded Pro system. Sometimes I wake up and I wish that it was like The Wizard of Oz we'd wake up and we'd all know 2020 and messing up all of 2020 and 21 seasons change all just a dream and you were there and you were there. But let's see what else we have. Well, we have a couple has to be Angie's. So on start Maria the Watertown writer on blackandgold.com just wage point that out Maria of H2O Town says which is a greater need for the Bruins in planning for the next season defense of defensive or offensive home. FYI. I'm frankly over a management trying to bridge with just either with just another guy. Sorry. I read that wrong, but just another guy like meeting just like going and Page someone just to put them there that really doesn't solve any of our problems. Thank you Maria as always so I just won't go back. So you mock the both. They need to address at 5 on five scoring. You cannot keep winning on the PowerPlay your success cannot be always on the power play. So you need to be better on the five-on-five you need to address that with a sniper or somebody off. Get consecutively 30 goals a season and the defense to and defense needs an upgrade. If you're going to lose Krug get an upgrade them know what's going to happen, but I don't see with the salary cap the flat cap and everything that's going on with that whole situation possibly the the Jacobs not spending all the way to the back up. I don't see both happening when it comes to money. It's probably going to be one of those things that one is going to take a priority over another. Hopefully it's a full word thing, but I do believe in the defense. I don't strongly believe in that defense moving forward with an aging Chara and so on and and some complimentary pieces, but I want to see more goals goals are eventually what win games at the end of the the end of the game. So let's let's address that if you have the cap space if you make moves and if you're a bold GM and you want to Jersey Awesome, social hair and that brass then go out and address both needs if you're in a win-now situation, which I do believe they are but I just don't see having the the capital to do any of these big big moves to get both needs addressed. I definitely think it's more offensive than defensive help that we need. But again, that's also contingent on obviously if crew and if Char is not here or a game. He is here Charles going to have a diminished role. Like you know what I mean? He's not gonna I mean what can you do? It's nothing about him not being a beast. He is a beast, you know what I mean? But it's just the natural progression of things. I I don't know. I'm torn between I hope Don Sweeney grows the set and like something goes big and but good like big in the way that we're all like, oh my God at first and then we see what we're getting back and we'll like oh my God, John Sweeney S. I love you. You know what? I mean? I don't think that will happen. That's just my dream world. I just been a Bruins fan too long because whenever there's the oh my God deals actually not in a good way. So hopefully unless that happens but I think it's I don't want to say it's easy, but I think it's easier to compensate for losing Krug and maybe Shara but even if there is still there, obviously just the minute. It's in everything that I mean, he does everything. You know what I mean kind of thing. That's a little easier money-wise to probably fill the gaps in there because we do have like I think Clifton can just be up. You know what I mean? If you want to put down on you know what I mean? Like we you can make that happen, even if Euros not ready or whatever. It's like I think we have enough that if you can get a legitimate defenseman in there to help the back and make them a little bigger, you know, whatever Carlo & Griz like and the kids are going to be. All right. Do you know what I mean in the end? Everything's going to be all right on that end. They do need to address offense. We can't and especially if you're not going to keep touring crew. It's going to take at least a season before not going Grizzly can them or whoever ends up on that power play really solidify Point production and especially if we're still only relying wage. Frontline you know what I mean? Like it's the top-line, you know. So again, that's what do we go back to what's going on with the second line, you know, so I feel like that's where if we're going to spend the cat money though. And the cancer re-sign Jake debrusk. I don't know who told him. He's worth six million. He's not but he does he bump like reserve a table for he's got a couple of years in and he only makes like eight hundred thousand songs, like he cost that much right now. So he's going to get his bump what you wanted entry level deal. Right? So exactly but he has played professionally for a couple of years all I'm saying, so I think that we need to sign grow as number one. Number two. We need to get Jake debrusk maybe to sign a couple of year Bridge deal the kind that if he still not doing what he needs to do we can ship them out. Sorry to say this drop him and Seattle or like do you know what I mean? Because that gives him another opportunity. He's got experience. He's got whatever but hopefully something big happens on mean. All right, Ray Guarino. Yes dead. White Corinne are Greg Reno, right? Yeah, Ray Ray green of yeah, you sound like Gwar. I like the group that you did say that on Twitter. That's pretty funny have that's awesome that get that reference to you know, like the group who are that's awesome. Okay, so but he asks is Tanika is ready for full-time Center position show the Bruins Explorer moving. Krejci. I know he has limited no-trade Clause 50% of the league by freeing up some of this money and groups money will give them a lot of flexibility to improve the team and he put down like O E L Taylor Hall drafts off. I just messed up his name dad's the Roth. I think I don't know I messed it up. But what say you thank you for the question right off. Not up with the middle know I honestly don't see great craft from where by the way. I don't see them exploring any trades for crazy because I don't think any other team out there is going down. Make that 7 million dollar a a v on their end when it's a flat cap. Maybe if krejci was a five four or five million dollar player. They probably would bite on that. But I think in any deals moving forward the Romans would have to retain salary and that's just not a good idea moving forward with all the cap situations. My thing is as long as I've always wanted to see some sanika up the middle, but listen, it's a lot easier for a center to transition to the right-wing or a wing. It's harder for a sensitive to start off their pro career. I'm sorry, it's hard to just start off as a Winger and then moved to the center position. So in my opinion, I would like to see next season. I would like to see Sydney can possibly play on the right side and and then when sent the positions are more available than he'll transition over and then get into his natural position up the middle and then we can start filling in these players with some entry-level deals of whatever whatever go do the plug and play's you know, I definitely don't think I think crazy should just he's getting paid as money till the end of this contract and what happens with crazy after that will happen. I don't think Jake is anywhere ready enough, you know what I mean to kind of replace that I mean crazy isn't just about being a center on the second line who he's also been the top-line center. And so, you know what, I mean with him and Bergeron up kind of bounced around back and forth in their career that just his role generally on the team. I don't think he's ready quite enough for a full-time at that. That's just my thing with him. I think he'll be fine in the future. I like what I see with this kid, but this goes back to my pushing too far too fast and what that can sometimes due to age development during mean by your current needs to come up and fill in at Center and that's great and maybe the year after that. He's becomes one of the scientists that's fine. You want to get off? A bold bold roster change from myself. Oh God. Am I gonna want to I can't handle any more on this Monday. I'm just going to go ahead you hiding I love it off. Krejci on the top line Bergeron on the second line Second you love second line of debrusk Bergeron. Sadika do not do not take coil and put him on the right side for the pure fact of putting sanika third line Center dumb in my opinion. It's just not right off. No way flip that shit around. Charlie Coyle on the right side either I like okay. I don't care whether Bergeron are crazy as the top or second. It doesn't matter. Like I said to me they're interchangeable. They're not the same player, but the interchangeable in my heart for what they do and what they bring, you know. I think maybe a change up in the center position. There is a good idea. I don't know if again like I haven't seen enough of Jackson he get to really think he needs to be playing that deep up on the line. Do you know what I mean? I just I don't know that you know, and it's not cuz I just trust him it's just I haven't really seen him enough to See, you know what? I mean? I do think it might be good for dabros though. If they do re-sign debrusk to maybe give him Bergeron for a little bit and see what happens with that. But Jake I think is a dead horse. Enemy. I don't think has anything to do with him or crazy. I think he just needs to learn to stay on his feet and I always say to my kid. It's the Scooby-Doo legs when your brain is going faster than your feet or whatever kind of thing. Sometimes you've gotta slow it down and find your group so I'm not opposed to that but I'm just not sure stood Nika second. I just don't know and that's nothing judgment on him. It's just he is Young. He doesn't really have a lot of games up on that long. And that's a Big place to play next to Bergeron a crazy, you know what I'm saying? So nothing against him, but we'll see though. I mean what can you do if they Maybe can dump some cap and get some other people in there though. We don't know that's not an option. I'd probably rather have a more seasoned person playing next to crazier Bergeron on the right, you know what I mean? But I mean, I gave him a try but we still need a plan B. Yeah, that's just me, but I absolutely do not think David krejci is getting traded. I just he's not like if anything that Core group of Bergeron krejci to whatever Chara they're having one more run together as a group they are and that's. Like they're not like they're not those five or whatever. They are both. Excellent lie the kids that with the kids in 2011. Now the grisly veterans now not counting shower. He was already he was the grizzly vet then already, you know that's happening so often Anymore be Angie's know those are the only adds bmg's. So we're moving on cuz we're almost done. Let's power through the rest of that. So we got this month USA Hockey Hall of Fame Dan plays Tony. Granato, Jenny Potter. Yeh. She's a beast sorry goldsheep dumbass and I also want to bring up Jerry York very long time. What is he like his 2017 season as BC's head coach. He's hockey Legend thorn in my side as a b u v e r York Hockey East getting the call in as being Just grayed out what he does. He just is magical. So I just want to say congratulations on that any words about Jerry York legendary in our area. Yes. Just unbelievable unbelievable development all the way and see a legend legend and and been around forever. That's just unbelievable. Yeah good for him. But sadly we did lose Jack Kelly off. He longtime coach of BU coach them to their first two national championships and kind of made bu hockey men's hockey be what it is. Also a big part of well, they were the New England Whalers but then eventually Hartford Whalers w h a yeah, he I mean he did pretty much everything and he was the president of the Pittsburgh Penguins game kind of his last like when he was involved, but he's just to like speak on him for a second and it I mean he lived in nice long life nine fifty-three years, but he's in the Belmont High Hall of Fame be used home. Fame USA Hockey Hall of Fame main Sports Hall of Fame The Hartford Whalers Hall of Fame which I'm sure they sell on our Carolina because they don't ignore their past. You know what I mean? They embrace it off. So that was sad thing to go on other NHL awards which were trying to wrap up so you can get on their number one. We know the Vezina who's going to win wage to go. We hope right. I hope so I was if they will we got the call they're still to go. I think Quinn Hughes is winning, but that's that way all my car Chad Lindberg. Yeah. I don't know which one like either one. I'm not going to be mad. I just really it's hard to I don't know. I keep bouncing back and forth. What did I check off? I actually checked off Kayla Mikata, but I feel like coin Hughes night when she got the Ted Lindsay. I think Leon draisaitl is probably getting that one. What else do we have is all the Hart Trophy the big one and the Norris which I personally I hold roaming off. He gets cuz I really love Roman you'll see and I would like him to get that and that's all I got on my end. Jeff Ward. I know you want to say a few things about Jeff warm and Rec bonus. You want to do that real quick, you know trying to find okay. All right, Jeff Ward former. Boston Bruins assistant general coach God. I'm terrible today finally getting this change. You know what I mean gets the interim. Tag taken off and is the full coach but this guy was destined to be a bench boss is with the Bruins theft. I don't remember where he went but then all of a sudden went over to be the bench boss over in Germany, I believe and came back over with a Vengeance too long to finally get that job in and and good on him to to finally get there. So congratulations to Jeff Ward Class Act. Okay, and we also have one that you wanted to touch on who's actually has a game tonight to play for the Stanley Cup. Well coach for the Stanley Cup at least Rick. What do you have to say about him? Rick bowness former Boston Bruins coach but Rick goes a long way into into hockey. So I remember him when he was the head coach of the main Mariners and then got hired as the Boston Bruins coach only here for a season probably because Jacobs couldn't afford the coaching staff and he moved on went to Ottawa and then just really just bounced around place to place but honestly good on brick for where he's what he's doing right now with this Dallas Cowboys team they seem to be a wagon but you know, I really I still want the Tampa Bay Lightning to win this series and and the cop I like to keep in the East and so on but also full of Bruins that are on the team not a fan of talisay again or Hands-On of development, but if they win they win, but if not, it's dead. I'd rather rather not see that well hear about it more or less as I don't want to hear about it on Twitter like oh my God, he got a cop. We should have kept them. We kept the wrong. Goalie blah blah. It's just off. You're going to hear a dumpster fire all that bullshit. I I'm on a Tyler Seguin person. I'm on either is a good player and everything but no show in these playoffs off the week. I'm like, can we stop acting like Tyler Seguin is God's gift to Santa knows cuz he's not he's a good Center like he's solid Center, but it's not like he's been the Superstar standout Center, you know, whatever, you know, whatever. I do like other people and they're just you know, whatever I but I'm definitely I'm a nice knob I'm very much like same thing in the Superbowl. You better while me on the other side because I'm proud of voting for The it's just a thing with me we're doing awesome. But we also want to mention Bill Armstrong's named GM of Arizona. Good luck. Yeah bill on Thursday is a former assistant coach with Peter Laviolette in the Providence Bruins back in the day. Both of those guys want to call the cup when that team in 1998-99 the first called the cup of the Providence Bruins long history since nineteen ninety-two and they still continue to go off on but good on him. He was also a form of player with the Providence Bruins. So it's got some ties here. So hopefully he can you know, get the job done job. Out in the desert and so on but I'm still surprised that a guy like Mike food a remains out there. He was the former GM of the the Los Angeles Kings under manage my damn Lombardy. I can't even say his first name. I don't even remember but yeah, hopefully he gets a job soon, but good on Bill Armstrong to finally get his birth his rise to fame. Well, we have not begun start paying the total blow up of the front ends of everyone's so worried about what's happening at free agency and this and that there's been some leaves. There's been some moves by pretty soon. We'll see GM's and all those other positions and head coaching like those will start moving around to a little bit more speaking of that p d p Lobby a lot was named head coach of Washington, which is that's going to be crunchy because that's exactly what Washington means is a pita love they'll let to kind of swoop them back around to them. Family cup cells from a couple of years ago, you know what I mean? So I think that's a good match at scary obviously cuz we are in Eastern Conference team, but I think that's a good match up and we'll see how that rolls up. Yeah. Yep. Oh, there's no doubt about it. I know there's a million trillion things we could talk about I could talk about how I saw from I who I know as a rabid Bruins fan that apparently Charlie Mcavoy. Was that Cider Hill Farm and he was very yesterday. I don't know that for sure. Check out his Instagram, which is apparently with a picture was posted but looks like side are held to me. That's just all I'm saying, which I think is fun because apparently they're excited. He'll site Thursday. It's it's not afriad but they really are delicious. You know what I mean? They must be that famous. You know, I don't know it's up here. So I wanted to mention that but that being said NHL awards a start in 3 minutes. Let's wrap up. What do you think about let me I go first right at the wrap up. I don't know. Oh, I did want to say thoughts and prayers to James White the Patriots player his family his parents got into a really bad accident. So thoughts and prayers. And Z has a thing on that. I hope someone DVR because if you're here with me or you so follow Mark follow me if you feel like it on one person away from a hundred feet long as you crazy people nice nice and I don't even say anything really I mean I do but I don't I don't have that big of a mouth. But sometimes when I have a big mouth, it's like I'm just like blah blah blah like on everybody else even care. That's it. 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Do the Bruins miss Zdeno Chara and Torey Krug at all & Should we be worried about Tuukka Rask? | Conor Ryan | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

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Do the Bruins miss Zdeno Chara and Torey Krug at all & Should we be worried about Tuukka Rask? | Conor Ryan | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

"This is February 2nd in this is the Bruins speed on C L & S media. And welcome back to the Bruins beat on ceiling Us Media. My name is Evan marinacci. Hope you guys are having a great day a great week. I cannot believe that it's February. I am stunned that it's February. It's almost been a year since covid-19 here a year or a year since Cobin shut everything down. Obviously Cove. It's been here for now over a year, but just crazy and it's already February. Normally this would be like, you know the dog days of of the wage season and instead this year. It's still kind of the beginning. So the dog days are like, you know a few weeks in March, but obviously just just happy to have hockey back and feels a little bit normal life, you know talk hockey and stuff. So this week's show I had Connor Ryan on again this week might be the most interesting episode we've done in a while back and I mentioned this in the conversation that we go over to story lines in this episode that I think You're going to you're going to play out throughout the year one more than the other probably we start by kind of analyzing eight games in whether or not the Bruins missed Torey. Krug page are especially after having played Chara on Saturday and then Monday, but again, this is being recorded Monday. So the game Monday night in this pot and my head has not happened yet, but we kind of get into that foundations. I wrote about that for the athletic so we get into his piece on it we get into Torey krug's misusage with the blues. It's heinous. It is horrendous that will stun you down as it's done me actually it was worse. Usually when you go look something up, you'll go look up the stats for something. It's it's not as bad as you think we're not as bad as you maybe remember or originally was and so I was like man I kind of wish that you know, that's kind of proved my point. These stats are way worse than I expected and that's saying something and then we get into grask and whether or not We should kind of start to worry and it was measured takes it was measured takes about two guess so so don't worry. We didn't we didn't go off the deep end with any to could takes today, but nevertheless a very interesting episode before we get into it off or we ready for some football. Are we ready for some football the Super Bowl in less than a week in less than a week Tom Brady versus Patrick Mahomes as I keep saying in this most interesting Super Bowl most interesting non Patriots Super Bowl in my lifetime, you know, basically the current goat first maybe the future go dare. 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Thank you for all the subscriptions to Bruins ringside continue to do. So, as I said, we are working on some some things for Bruins ringside to get guys attracted more. So let's keep pushing. Let's keep having fun over there and I hope you guys all go subscribe and join me on YouTube for Bruins right side. And that is that and without further Ado here is my conversation. With Conor Ryan and we're here with Conor Ryan Conor. What is happens? Evan? Nothing much. What's up with you? It's go. Well, I've had a move as you guys can see in on YouTube. I've moved back to my college house. So if you hear any noise in the background, you didn't hear anything as its fellow kids so to speak but those but that goes Its ghosts ghosts are haunting this this house down here in Amherst Massachusetts, but I know happy to be back happy to move back in and last semester crazy last semester which is just which is just nuts. But obviously the Bruins just never stops that that continues on that will always continue on and there's some stuff I want to get to with you today that I think our big story lines pertaining to this team and obviously like I don't just say that lately. I don't usually say things are big when they're not I like to try to keep things. You could Real Life podcast, but this series against Washington is making me see it when it comes to this team and you know, the Bruins are eight games into their season. Now, you guys took us on a Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday. And when we recorded this the Monday night game obviously has not happened yet. That would be crazy. If you were recording this podcast at like 2 a.m. On a Tuesday off, but at any rate, it gives him the season and fluto shinzawa had a piece in the athletic detailing how the Bruins defense is actually improved with Char gone and he gets them how it's more about foot speed and you know lausanne with McEvoy has been different and you know, they're allowing both Defenders to be below the goal line things like that where they didn't really with Char Char was in that front guide and you know you right off Are on the capitals are $6 and three. He looks like a good fit for Washington system. The Bruins are five one and two three points behind the capitals that are even harder to score against them before so far charged departures resulted in wins all around and it got me thinking to the Bruins Miss Chara and Krug at all. I mean, I think if you want to look at it, you know for Towers perspective. I it's one of those situations where you know, he leaves Goes to Washington does not agree with kind of what the pitch was here in Boston like it sucks in that regard in terms of I think Charter if he was here as a guy he could slot in as like, you know, a third parent guy or a guy that you could rest on back-to-back think that'd be great. Right give you had him in the fold office. It's not the case and they've held up. Well is it, you know, it has a defense as a whole held up because you know lowers on and off or like playing out of their minds know I think they've been solid they've had as you would expect the ups and downs of guys kind of put into featured roles. So it's been good and bad but I think if you look at maybe the play of the guy like McAvoy who looks blocked in right now, has been solid girls like when he's been healthy unfortunately hasn't been the case that much has been great. But and I think you'd still get over all the Bruins structures. And how I think as Pluto said the Bruins have been able to tweak kind of how they How They Roll their defense how they deploy the defense and it's wet better results and maybe better results with guys like Jack McEvoy and some of these fastest skaters is kind of the featured options. So again, it seems like right now this isn't a situation like developed down in Tampa Bay with the NFL game where one party leaves and one party does a lot better than the other it seems like it's kind of benefiting all groups right now again with the Bruins like to have jar back and Reserve role. I think they would have but they're making the most of the right now and you look at the power play seems to be coming along just fine now. I mean they've obviously lose Grizzly to injury McEvoy looks solid there when we fills in Rome they've switched and gone to a five-fold set up when they need when adjusted to get a goal across the board. So again when you've got guys like pastrnak back and Mark Shannon Bergeron your papa is going to look pretty good job. List, so they've definitely haven't been able to absorb the loss of Krug. It's just in terms of you know, without charlot minutes eating defenseman. You might miss down the road. But I mean, I I think more people worried once you lose once you've lost crugen Chara that would be in a situation with a Bruins of winning like game six five or something like that and there was going to be off yet, you know to go ask any other stuff lock we're going to be like under siege the whole time. I think entering Saturday's game against the capitals the room for a first-in shots against four games so long. I mean they've done a great job with just you know, you know getting that system in place a defensive structure having a lot more guys down recovering pucks when you've got guys like McAvoy wage like that can bring out the puck very well makes your job a lot easier in terms of not having those taxing these own ships. So yeah, I mean, I think as a whole both parties have to be pretty happy with how it's gone right now. Yeah, I mean I've the numbers right here this year the Bruins when per naturalist atrick 44.21 attempts allowed that's lowest in a league 21.5 for shots allowed second-lowest not last year 53.14 chances allowed per 60 that was ninth Louis. So that numbers are a lot better this year and then 26.68 shots against / 60 that was third level that is 2nd 3rd 4th Line the same thing but it has been better. It has I mean, you know, I think and we both said some of the offseason, you know, depending on who you put with McEvoy. He's not always having to break out. You don't always having to go retrieve pucks. There are little things that his game that he you know, he doesn't have to kind of fill in for Lowe's on on things. I mean lausanne has been money as far like and and that was something that I think I didn't see coming. We were kind of worried that was on was not going to be the anchor that he's been for McEvoy. He's been great, you know the songs been, you know, great and you know, obviously they have shelters the Borel a ton but he's dead. Up his he's you know, he's held his own Miller's held his own. He's not injured yet. Go knock on wood Bruins hands and you know you have Clifton filling in well for Griz like so maybe this is the best case scenario and maybe things could fall apart. But I feel like we're past that, you know, like we're past that being just kind of a small sample. This isn't like the first three games of season anymore like off assessment are seeing how it is like the structure is in place right? Like yeah. Yeah. I'm not saying it's all system. Right? You've got very very talented guys in they're executing but truly back towards the system defense, right? Exactly. Yeah, but like I think you look at it out and be like, all right. This is what they have. You know, they're going to have guys like lausanne. It's a broader going to have up and down games as we all expected. But as a whole it's like you're not seeing this is like the New York Rangers right where you know, you'll get a d Corps and it's a gamble every time you're out there. It's like the Bruins know what to do. They know, you know where to be. There's going to be lots as of a game. Even the best teams in the D Zone but as a whole you got the bodies in place and you younger guys who should keep on getting better and better and that's not just even saying it's was on as a moral like a loyal looks much better. This year has been the case every single year and hopefully goes like gets back healthy in short order because I mean that that pairing with him in Kalo Dak guys were taking like crazy D Zone draws. They were like a shut-down option and like the ice was tilted so far in Boston's Direction during that time to like I think it was maybe like 60% off share something around that like, it was very heavily tilted for the Bruins and I think they had under 30% always on face off. So that that pairing is really intriguing. It's a showing that we did not get to see too much of it based on versus you know bad luck, but they've got the pieces in place that one or executing well and should continue to get better and better as the year goes on. Yeah. That's why I don't think this is a flashing. Pan, like I don't think we're going to see everything open up cuz again the systems in place. Everyone's getting better, you know, even supportable even Jacobson portal like finally as kind of coming into into shape and off and he obviously is being sheltered but he is getting more defensive Zone time and he's holding his own. So I think that is looking up speaking of guys being used in the defensive Zone. I wanted to look I look these numbers up because after the first two games I think in st. Louis, I think it's Bruins stats who tweeted out Satori crew was just playing mainly in the defensive Zone and I hadn't I haven't either an honest because he's in a different division. I feel like we don't really hear much about Krug. We're not looking them up all the time. The first Power Play has been good but really good and it's clear that they haven't really missed him a tub. So it's not like we're only the power plays like over or like, you know one for you know, thirty five and we're like, oh look at what krug's doing and say Lewis, but and went looked up the numbers off. You know a Faceoff percentage is too Tori Cruise has to st. Louis right now. And right now he's taken a total of 42 offensive zone draws 45.71 offensive zone start percentage and 46.67 offensive zone Faceoff percentage. So by the way, I know these are a lot of numbers, you know, what I'm in front of you but those are very low amounts of offensive zone Faceoff percentages and then the rates seven offensive zone starts per 68.3 to defensive Zone starts 460. So he's getting more shifts in his defense is on that is off of Zone 18.39 offensive zone Faceoff spur 60, and then 21.01 defense was on faceoffs 460. So boring main point is he's playing way Mortals defensive-zone. Yeah good tonight. And I think crude last year with the Bruins had a I want a individual it was a thing maybe like low seventies or something crazy. I have the numbers right here. Yeah. This was last year last year Krug percentage of offensive zone starts off. 74.33 percent percentage of offices on faceoffs 71.04 rates 12.44 offensive zone starts 460 now he's got seven and st. Louis 28.46 offensive zone faceoffs / 60. He's got 18.39 in st. Louis 11.6 defenses on faceoffs / 60. He has just 21. Yeah Twenty One in st. Louis 4.29 defensive Zone starts / 60 is 8.32 in st. Louis main point they are completely misusing Torey Krug and that's a shame that is a shame now. They're using Vince done in that high seven or low seventies offensive zone roll, and I know they like Vince done and obviously this is a blues podcast, but holy crap, they are completely misusing Torey Krug and that is a shame because yeah because is it he's going to suck. Four numbers if you were to oh, he's overrated. He sucks. It's like, oh they're just completely didn't use him to the best of his ability. Yeah, I'm Terry Crews a great player, but it's like any sport. I mean look at like the page. They've got good guys, you know, maybe not all Pros or you know pro bowlers, but the Patriots have gotten the most of the guys cuz they know how to best execute and use them in certain situations and story crew. You know, I think people look at Krogers like completely, you know wash in terms of you know in the D Zone like, you know, you can hold his own like he's not like he handled one of these guys who's all offense right? Like Chuck D Angelo. Yeah. Yeah Jesus that's another topic for another. Yeah, but yeah, no, I mean but you have to be realistic right of like if you want to best maximize Chrome trains to give them a lot of genres and it's like again, it's also an issue with the blues like signing him why I think it was so shocking was just you know, the the history During the Bruins and the blues that was shocking but then you look at you know, like where does he kind of fit in that equation for that team? Like you're not going to sign pietrangelo. We're going to sign a guy like Krug when you spent way too much money on Justin Faulk, which was a dipshit contract like that when everyone sign was like, okay are you getting are you signing? Pietrangelo You're placing you with Justin Faulk off to sign Justin talked to a shity deal and then sign Krug so you got fat you got Vince Dunn who like apparently is on the trade wire, but he's a guy that as you said is being used as a, you know, offense own no offense meant so he's already kind of filling in the role of the crew had so just because you need to find someone to pay with a guy like Perico cruise at your options being a shutdown guy like wage just like complete asset mismanagement. If you're the Blues in terms of sticking, you know a guy and that's why we shouldn't be so yeah. It's a shame for that whole situation because again Chrome Straight when you can, you know put him in a role which he can really succeed and it's not saying like he's like a liability out there, but you're not getting the best out of this guy that he's spent their ship ton of money for that. You showed Alex returned home door to put him in a role where he's not best suited like it's like putting it's like getting Connor mcdavid's like we're going to put Connor McDavid cuz he's a really fast skater it all D Zone draws. It's like no you're not using the right way you dipshit. So that's that's the thing cuz like when you get a younger guy, a lot of teams will try to acclimate them into the defensive Zone a little bit more guy, like pastrnak, you know growing up. They wanted to get better in the defensive zone. So they had them take more defense of drawers and stuff. But you know what you're getting and crude you didn't assign Torey Krug to have to be better than the Defense Zone. You had Torey Krug signed because it offensive Dynamo and he's an amazing power play quarterback. Probably the best in the league and that's how you were to deploy him. Like that's why he was going to make the money not because he could, you know be that two way, you know strong defense minimum wage. To be offensive defenseman like it's whole point. That's why he made his money. And so I just find it crazy and stupid that that is how Saint Louis is deploying him and I I'm disappointed disappointed. I'm not surprised cuz that is something that like dipshit st. Louis would do would be to kind of misuse a guy like him and again it's early. So maybe they come to maybe crew kind of overcomes it but you mentioned Grizzly can Carlo play a lot of these drawers and kind of still having really good numbers Cruise numbers Advanced stats wise are not great. I think of course he for percentages like 45 or 46, it's not great. So Torey Krug going to waste out in st. Louis. Maybe that's maybe st. Louis Beach Boston again. They take buses, you know number one commodity on defense and just you know tournament to tournament to you know worthless, but I have faith the crew go find a way to to pull around so I'm pushing form and I think everyone in Boston push it for him too good a guy not to have work out another topic. I want to get you on today's show is Tuukka Rask and a lot of em, For questioning on Twitter Rask and cuz you know the game again on Saturday night against the Caps two or three of those four where you kind of went that went in like that one any of the vet screenshot. You had a rental van Riemsdyk muffin. You had who scored the first goal Backstrom get his goal. So there were these questionable goals you had the injury wearing masks look to pull something in the game against Pittsburgh and you know with this all happening. I want to take a look at risks numbers cuz Rask has been really great in overtime and in these clutch situations, but I was like, I wonder how he's doing numbers-wise during five-on-five play and some of the some of this is a little concerning not that bad. It seems good. By the way, the Bruins are five one and two so it's not like this is like a dying, you know, this Rascals not to be need to be traded, you know, but nevertheless these stats are not great hideout. Save percentage point seven six seven thirty eight among goalies with at least a hundred minutes played goals saved above-average negative 2.17. That's 39th. That's not great. He's only faced 26 High danger shots 5515. That's 20-second and the average gold distance is 27.56, which is 6 highest according to Natural stature. It's all according to Georgia. I know today is a very numbers have you show so that that's a lot for me as well. So you guys I feel you but should should we be worried should people be worried about Rask. I mean I do. I mean, I think you can again will be the rational take a verse here and say you can say that Tuukka Rask kind of bad gain on Saturday. I mean, he wasn't good tracking the park right? There was a couple of years. He's a couple of those goals really like oo not not too great. So but I mean you can also say that he didn't look good out there, but also not hit the full panic button yet, right. I mean the Bruins crank I've done a really good job as you said. Negating a lot of those High danger chances in there on the net when he's out there. But you know again to Grass Quan is usually pretty slow starter. Anyway how many times it's it's helped wage ruins having got like a lock where if he's in a little bit of rough to open the are you can turn to a Gala clock but again rats cuz usually pretty slow start out of the gate each season. And again, I think you look at you know, his playing overtime shootout. It's like it's not like it's a situation where if if a lot of these goals that you've been seeing from him were like the ones we saw on Saturday, it's you know, like a dump in or you know, a a shop like a low dangerous shot and some repeated issue then I'd be concerned but I'm not going to have you know, one game or off one situation like that kind of cloud what's better like again, he's not been all rolled as as you noted, but I don't think he's a situation where we get the panic button quite yet if he sucks loading up dead. Five goals and a couple of games or or these repeated kind of low danger chances. He wants sneaking through then then you have to be concerned you hope that it's not maybe a issue with his page where it's something that he tweaked and then it's kind of hampering them. Cuz when I first saw like especially that van Riemsdyk goal where he wasn't tracking while Mike just you just seemed off today, you know that some of you through be concerned about I'm not in the panic button yet, you know, obviously like it to be a lot better, but you don't make the case and the Bruins probably could have been, you know, Owen free to open the air for wasn't for him and some of those OT games. So you you give and take the rats at least in the early goings, but I'm not not too concerned with it for now. Yeah. No, I mean and also just to put a little positive spin on it. I mean in eighteen nineteen, if you remember there were people calling for halak to start Winter Classic wage was like Rask was terrible to open the year that year and then they did go into the cup but I do wonder if Rask is hurt. I do wonder if he's battling something and and I'm curious, you know, I think obviously e You know, they they use a lot quite a bit. I wonder if we start to see him a bit more, you know, they had tuladhar back up a game last week against the Penguins, but you do one girl asked is hurt and with this shortened season and things very tight in this East Division. They can't afford to have him gone. Like you can't afford to have halak in there every night and you can't afford to have a chance that the leader has to go in there cuz Latoria ready and a lock is not ready to play the I think the the amount of games that Rask is going to end up playing this year. So part of me wonders if either goes back to a conversation we had earlier in the year, they would have the next guy they don't and that's cotton if if Rask is injured right now and you know again, I am kind of injured in the in the game that he did get injured in and then obviously didn't look great on Saturday now, he could come out and his next game and be just lights out money and there's no injury, but you do wonder if he's battling You do have to kind of Wonder and then it goes back to they don't have the next guy so that I think is something interesting. We have to follow her sort of you know, is he injured as you feeling you know, how much halak ends up playing over the next week or two? I think it'd be smart to play a lot more than maybe normal. I know that I think Rask they wanted to games a week cuz it's usually about three a week in total if they get if they need like twice this week. I think that would be a very smart move just to give Rask some some some rest cuz it does feel like maybe maybe there is something there. But again, we don't know we don't know cuz the thing that night when he got injured looked I thought worse then yeah. I thought he'd have to come out of the game. No, no problem. And you can't get up. Yeah, but anyways, that's the rest take and that and you know people on Twitter being like Oh, you know, she committed now it's a commitment know that don't worry it's fine this again. We're not doing we're not we're not going on this Pony again, but wage I don't think this is a pressing issue again. Things are still very good and Bruins in the Bruins World second place in the East after the Caps, so can't really hate that can't hate that Connor before she goes or anything that you would like to plug. Yeah, we're going to have all coverage leaned up. This week's game. Just tend to ramp up obviously got a big rematch against Capital see how they kind of respond from that applies coming back up. We did a deep dive on some of mcavoy's play lately. It's reassuring to know that we ought to do another dumb Narrative of McEvoy can't score. Oh not that out of the way again. I think you know we've talked about this before about good McEvoy is like in terms of driving even-strength offense just off of his transition game, but it's good that at least he's also I think on Pace for like sixty five points off. Yes, and so that's reassuring that, you know, people can shut up about that cuz he's playing out of his mind right now. So we have to write down on that and we'll have a whole bunch of stuff for the rest of the week. So follow us home. At Boston Sports channel. Subscribe over at bsj and if you want to follow me on Twitter, you can add, Ryan underscore and 93 go do all that. Now what you just mentioned the back of voice stuff. 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205: Reacting to Big, Bad & Bobby & A One-Year Extension For Torey Krug? w/ Dale Arnold

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205: Reacting to Big, Bad & Bobby & A One-Year Extension For Torey Krug? w/ Dale Arnold

"Hey, everybody and welcome to Bruins beat I. Am your host of Marinov Ski and I'm trying a little bit of a different intro here on this show it's funny. Sunday night I was. I couldn't sleep for some reason. I was kind of staring at the ceiling and. Billion thoughts are going through your head and. All of a sudden I, said Oh my God. I think I've been hosting. Bruins, beat for year, and so I went looked at my own. Insurance off the first episode was about I. Think exactly a year ago. It'd be Saturday, but it was exactly a year. and. I couldn't believe it. I was like Oh my God. This is actually owned by. And it's been crazy to think about. This has been a year. And I just wanted to say thank you. To everybody to all the listeners, you guys, you guys make this possible. You know there's no other way to put guys make this possible listening every week engaging with me on twitter or wherever you engage with me on honest to God you guys are the absolute best, and I mean that With everything say seriously. It means all the while also thank you to the guests for coming on. It's part of the show right the guests. You don't just come to hear me. You come to hear the guests as well. Maybe you can just hear me who knows but the guests thank you to them. obviously on a huge milestone. It's only year, but I did want to take this time to just kind of say. Hey, thanks, and maybe also change the intro. It's been a year. You know I feel like I've been doing the same format for awhile, so maybe we switch things up. Maybe we try new things pandemic why the hell not but so? Yeah, we're just GONNA I am trying to centro slowly. Going my way into it, no big deal and. Let me think maybe don't like the intro. Maybe you want me to change it back. Maybe you really do need the date at the top of every tro because you don't know it. I don't know maybe but so this episode had on Dale Arnold You know daily, Love Him. He's on the BRUINS Pope. Pre and post game shows zone show on ee I from ten to two every day. I called. Dylan, Keefe, still going, listen to it even though. We're in a pandemic and ours sports still listen, and so read sports content so reading, listen or watch and we on Dale. We talked big, bad and bobby. Maybe hopefully guys will watch that Sunday night I thought it was great. At time is no sports. Why Not Watch it? It's something to watch. And then we talked about an interesting. Take on Tori crew by my friend. Tom Anderson so. We talked about that before. I, get into the podcast with currently no NBA NHL or MLB. You might think there's nothing about on and guess what. You'd be wrong. 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Also access went thousand recipes and tools. You Need Dan Patrick Weight loss from the company whose revolutionized the weight loss industry. Send up your first consultation today and awaken one eighty weight loss dot com. Turn. And we're here with Dale Arnold Dale. Avenue I'm doing okay. I gotta move my microphone I. Just Finished Radio Now. We're doing podcasts. Stuff ed will buy microphone you are in my might radio studio here in the basement of my house, so. How's that going for? You. It's a little weird. It's gotten less weird as we've gone along It's always better to do shows when you can communicate visually non non verbally with your co host. You can talk during the commercial breaks. You can go over what we're. GonNa do. rich, and I were both a little nervous about how that was going to work out under the circumstances, but so far. Knock Wood. It's great. And the good thing is i. feel like every show is going through this right now, so it's not like it's advantage or disadvantage, and also you can see each other on camera, which is good because we usually do podcasts where you're calling in, so it's I can't see you, but now we can see each other so i. know when you're about to stop me to start. So I think that's very good a good thing, so it's awesome. Why guess we don't, but maybe we should. Do visuals for everything so we record this on Monday just for those who do not know and Sunday night was big bad and bobby the documentary I take it. You watched it. Are. You kidding me. I had gotten a preview. Look at at some of it And on the radio show on Friday. We talked to bobby about it and got an opportunity to visit with them. I mean I couldn't wait it was it was my Sunday night was filled with Bobby Orr eighty nine and Lebron, James, from nine to eleven, and it was like a night is like the old days. But if you're a bruins fan if you're a hockey fan. Watching that. Eight to nine slot on on NHL Network was just unbelievable. You know what's funny. Is You know I only twenty one young guy? But what's funny? Is What this whole pandemic? Yeah you're twenty one to we just both joining. We both went to the bar for the first time. Good for us. But so. With, these Jordan documentaries of nine to eleven every Sunday night and it feels like. It feels like Mo must watch tv not much these days. Everyone in the family get around the TV to watch something. Because usually can stream it or you watch the highlights of it this. It feels like everyone in America is on their couch, watching it, and it felt like everybody in Boston was watching the Bob your documentaries, I mean truthfully and Mrs No disrespect anybody but I think if the bruiser were in the middle of a playoff run if we weren't in a pandemic, if everybody home a guarantee, the ratings would be probably lower in the, and maybe the care factor might be a little bit lower in the in the. In the big bad bobby documentaries, but instead there's not much. And it did you know people are talking about? There's a lot of buzz with it. As someone who didn't grow up with it, you know I I obviously did not grow up watching those Bruins but it's fascinating, the style of hockey and the brand of hockey now. Did. How much of them did you watch? What sort of inspiration were they for? You? I never saw bobby play live either you know only on TV only on video. I ultimately got to know all those guys you know, and and become part of. The bruins culture in that regard, but I didn't I didn't really come to the hockey. Hockey is a sport. Until I was in college, so I mean it was literally after all this happened. I started doing college hockey on radio up in Maine. In like seventy five. So I really didn't follow hockey much up until that point I, do with the Bruins were I. Knew Bobby Orr wise. We lived in the Boondocks, up in Maine. So. Sorry, there was. Don't TV thirty eight where I lived. You know it was a pretty limited. We had four channels altogether. ABC NBC CBS. PBS and that was all we had where I live, so I didn't get to see those guys. Until later on, I wasn't a Bruins fan at that point. I didn't become a hockey fan at like seventy, five seventy six started doing college hockey ultimately ended up in the American league with the Mariners but. I came to the Bobby Orr. Bruins legacy later in the game. Yet, no, it's so interesting for me to see it. And to and just see the impact and how you know the Bruins at that time, the number one team in town. Whereas today they aren't, you know there's a niche is a die. Hard Fan base, you know there are a lot of people care, but it ultimately it's a patriots town at this point in time. And I've certainly grown up with it that way I think I agree with you, but I'd make the argument. The bruins might be second in this town. You think I think again on, and I am biased. I'm prejudiced I freely that. And if the Red Sox are in two thousand thirteen middle of a world series run, you know things change, but if you're if you're asking me about the hardcore fan base, patriots are clearly far and away the number one. I think there's an argument about the the BRUINS and the Red Sox in number two and I think the Celtics are probably number four. Yeah I don't think you're wrong. Actually because I think the die, hard bass, the care. The bruins fans have I. Think exceeds that of the Red Sox fan base, and that's just my opinion again. I, I'm a hockey guy. I guess I'm biased as well to that, but I feel like the engagement levels are show much more with the bruins. Than a team like the Red Sox and maybe that's baseball versus hockey. Maybe a baseball fan is very much different hockey fan. But I do see sort of what you're saying there I. It's just unbelievable you know. There's an argument by some people who I find stupid. Who Say Oh, you know what Bobby Orr did. Wasn't that big a deal? The the the the the the opponents weren't that good. The game was different, but it's more of what or did for the game itself and what he did for as a defenseman. You know I grew up as a defenseman playing hockey. I, obviously I. Was Not good enough to be pro. But. Back then it was unheard of for Defenseman to be that kind of offensive presence, and and your just steps up in. Casual one hundred twenty points I mean, I find that aspect of it incredible what he was able to do again. It's hard to describe to people who didn't see it or don't know about a- only know what they've read. the first defenseman in the history of the NHL score, thirty. First Defense History of the NHL to score forty a year, the only player in the history of the National Hockey League. To win the Hart Trophy Mvp Ross Trophy as as the scoring champion. The Norris Trophy is the best defense mentally. Oh, by the way the cons. Might this the MVP of the Stanley Cup playoffs. No one has ever done that. That's the entire list, bobby, or is it? He's the only one who's ever done. And as you point out in nineteen, seventy, one hundred twenty points I. Mean Phil was the first guy to get one hundred. He was that Hulking Center plane four feet in front of the goaltender. You know and and scoring thirty nine, and then ultimately fifty goals, ultimately seventy six goals bobbie shoot slap shots from the blue. Line half the time and it was just. It's hard to describe to people and it's why. I forget a Tucker Boynton a guy that I follow on twitter. A staff tonker. I really like you stuff a lot. A put out a tweet. It was sometime last week. We were talking about war. And in the course of Oars Bruins, career. When Bobby Orr was on the ice, all I saw this Bruins, headache plus seven, hundred, ninety, five goal, differential, or whatever it was when he was not on the ice, they were plus Fides. I'll find the stat. This is unbelie. I saw you quote. This I love Tucker. Tigers. Great Stats I gotta find this because this is. Radical. Oh, here! It is from nine, hundred, Sixty, eight, sixty, nine to nine, hundred, seventy, four, seventy five prudence at a plus seven, hundred, seventy nine goal differential, when Bob Yours on the ice, and just a plus five goal the French when he was off the ice. Think about those numbers for a minute. I mean no disrespect to the great players of the game, the Gretzky and how you and whoever you wanted lists. That number right there in the discussion for me about the fire in the street. Yeah no I mean unbelievable. His incredible you plus hundred and seventy, nine I just complete positive impact on the and also I thought the documentary did a great job showing how he's good defensively, too I mean he's blocking shots never afraid to get physical also pretty funny that the maple leafs had a tough time with the bruins back then too I think in that headline. They showed they lost like ten nothing. It can just go, they were. The Maple leafs were down six nothing when Quinn took out. Bobby with the hair and. Quinn was a friend of mine I was in the flyers organization when I started. I've known that I had known that for a number of years. People who don't remember. He was A. Physical figure he was six foot three, anyway, two hundred twenty five pounds. Let me just say this bobby. Orr didn't the hit the Quin delivered on, or and knocked him cold Kenny Hodge in his glove under bobbies head because he knew he was out needed. One is headland on the ice. Was Out. Done. By the next game. It is unbelievable. How different the game was back then like you know everything from the level of the glass I mean. Did you see the brawl? They were having a fans of punching over the glass. I mean it's incredible. How different it was back then and how the way? A good thing back then. No! Chance to be able to reach over the glass and punch. Guys in the head would be good. At? Laying in Toronto or something, it'd be death knell for him I. Don't want that. Oh totally I agree with you there and the other thing was i. feel like the game was more genuine than. Not Saying that today isn't genuine but I. mean by that I. What I mean by genuine is The players were more open. The answers more genuine, and there were rivalries back then I feel like today there are rivalries, but a lot of the guys are friends. You know they. It just to me I, it's hard to put into words, but it just felt more genuine. There was more hatred than You know the the whole idea of. Abreu never gets in a fight alone. You know there's always the second man and like to me. You couldn't do that now that they basically made a rule. So I get that, but it just back then felt so much there was there was more to it. It was it was more. Rivalries were heavier I. Don't feel felt the same way that was just take away I had from the documentary. Obviously, you have fewer teams. You played teams more often. That leads to more emotion that leads to more. To your point genuis genuineness. I I. Know I've talked to Quinn about it I've talked to or about it their relationship long time after the hit was not very good, they had fought in sixty, eight, sixty nine bobby had fought quinn end of the regular season, and they fought early the next year after the head. At Bobby by the way could fight very well. Thank you very much. It was a lot better at it than a guy his size should be. And I know for a fact that for years. Their. Relationship wasn't very good bobby. Orr could carry a grudge just fine. Thank you very much, but ultimately they did bury the hatchet and Quinn's words they did ultimately come to some sort of a relationship. They ended up serving on the same Hall of Fame Selection Committee for the the NHL Hall of fame and their relationship in later years was was fine, but you know back then. You didn't. You didn't like teams. You've got some of that now. I'll agree with you. It's not as much which also play teens as my terry. How often do you play the Edmonton oilers to? Gin Up the the hatred and the ceiling. You know you've got Canadians. You've got you know. The the maple leafs that sort of thing but it. It's not the same league. No totally isn't and also I mean. There's more there's more talent concentrated back then meets. Were Dirk fewer teams teams to a European? Player pool to draw from that you have now. It's also true also had more. You've got more players to draw from internationally now than you did back. It's totally true all right, so we're already talking about good offensive left shot defensive. Why don't we talk about Tori crew? And so. Everyone's kind of wondering about his future I saw a pretty interesting article this week from Thai Anderson. Tidal is hey. Here's a wildcard of a solution Torey Krug situation I feel like maybe people were saying this and I was missing it, but it's so funny because I feel like the only two options that have been discussed crew cab. Ben Science your long term for a lot of money or signs elsewhere long-term for a lot of money, not much else. has been talked about but Anderson. Anderson Pretty much makes the argument for. Why not just a one year extension to get through this weird pandemic time where there isn't a lot of money, the salary cap would probably say that. to me I was like. Thought about idea, because then it's like then he can get his money at some point. The bruins will probably have a higher capped. Maybe pay him that money. At some point. I just want to hear your thoughts situation. Obviously the risk that the Tory crew would have to take here would have to do with you know injury. Go out there at some time in the next year, and you bought a knee or something God forbid. I think ties. Overall premises sound. All you have to do is look at the recent contract signed by Yaroslava a lot. And, he said you know given what's going on in the world You know I didn't want frag this thing out and wanted to get it over with. I could see some. I could see some interest on both sides. Look. Let's just let's just get a year out of the way we'll keep fighting at this thing. We'll keep plugging away at it. The difference here would be if the gap between the two sides is so significant that Don Sweeney and or Torey Krug say look. We're not closing this gap. We're not close into ear from now. We're not closing at five years from now. And I'm just throwing numbers out for the sake of discussion or four million dollars a year apart. What are we doing here? In which case if I'm Krueg I go get that long-term deal guarantees me injury. Protection and things like that. If you think there's a legitimate chance, you can close the gap and at work this thing out then it makes sense for both sides I don't know where they are in that in that process. Yeah! That's that's sort of the the thing you know. They both say there hasn't been a lot of discussions. The pause began right. You know the money. The money isn't extremely close at least enough to make a deal, but to me it just like I read this piece I, said On a terrible idea because. As I said earlier. If you get a new, brought up a lock, which is a great point like if you can just kind of get security for this very uncertain time, which I think is the most important thing I do think NHL Weird state where no one knows when they're going to play I would rather be under I would want to be under contract right, but wouldn't want to sacrifice my future I wouldn't want. Clue on tracks guaranteed the NHL. Yeah, well I wouldn't want to go into you. Get Myself. You know three million less per year than I could maybe get because the the CAP is. Staying flat so overall I was like That's not a terrible idea. Now I want to hear your prediction. Do you think they come to a deal with group? I know that they want. I feel that he wants to be here. He's made that clear. He has never wavered from that as he pointed out in Amazon Sandwich for God's Sakes. It's true much more Boston guy. CAN YOU BE? But I but I also put myself in the in the skates in this case or shoes of the player. You've got a finite number of years. You can do this. You have a finite amount of money that you can make. I think you. have an obligation to yourself and your family to do the best you can do and unlike the NFL where they cut you at a moment's notice. At least the contracts in the NHL are are guaranteed. I understand that I appreciate that. But. If you're Torey Krug if the Detroit red, wings have the most money on the table, and they're offering you two million more a year than the Bruins on and I'm just throwing numbers out here for the sake of discussion to bring you back to your home state. Do I wanna go back and begin the process of complete and total reboot re-build. which is what I think. The Red Wings are in the process of trying to do here. Knowing full, it's like when Damien. Woody won a super bowl with the Patriots and went out and signed a big money contract with the Detroit Lions. It already one hardy had his ring. He went out and got his money he got paid. But. Do you remember anything about what he's career? From the time he left here and went somewhere else now. and. You would think. And if you're Torey Krug. Rain here I understand that but. If, you get your money, but you're playing in Detroit. And they're in rebuild. How do you think your life's GonNa be your hockey? Life is going to be you know your your. Financial is GonNa be great, and that's all good, and maybe he wants to go luminaires, family and I understand that. But if you're talking about hockey. It's going to be walk. East you mentioned this. He's twenty nine to be around for rebuild like data I mean. Realistically the redwings aren't competing for another four years minimum I mean I. I think it's longer so you should be. WHAT THIRTY FIVE! When the red wings make the playoffs for the first time in his time there, let's just say signs. They're right back, i. mean what's your again using that? As an example? I'm not trying to suggest that's what he's doing. I'm just using that as the example. Now. And that's the thing and so the and I still somewhere else kings or another team that that that would have potentially the money for him there another rebuilding team again this off season aren't a lot of teams that have the the cap space that are good. The can sign him. I mean. Yeah, you can go get your money with the red wings, but the thing is, it's it's his hometown, and that is home stay. Home State, so that's sort of another thing you have to consider. The Red Wings are good, historically a good franchise, so they're. Six it's his home state. I'm not suggesting. Humpty organization. That's not my point. In a in a finite hockey career that Tori crew has. How. Much winning is he going to be able to do there? Well that's the thing and so I'm very interested to see where it goes. I mean I. You know it's funny this time last year I'm writing a piece that's evaluating all the options for crew can. Lead off this time last year. You know Obviously, we weren't a pandemic, but. The CAP was going to go up at some point by a lot. You Know Krug- was saying how much you wanted to be here. The bruins clearly wanted him. And now you know it's a year later. The cap is going to stay flat and they both say they want to be here, but it's seems like common grounds harder find, and I just look at it like a little bit differently than I could before I couldn't see him leaving now. I see it and I go I think there's a legit chance. He's gone. But I think there's a chance I think part of it probably also going to. Work out. The bruins with a the weirdest, Stanley Cup in the history of hockey. Do they get bounce in the first round or something. You know it's all legitimate questions. If they were to go on to win the cup. Is it harder to leave? I would assume it would be. You know you know you've got a good thing going here, you know. The the core of this team is probably going to be good for another at least another two three years. And I. I don't know how that plays into. WAS DECISION MAKING PROCESS? So you mentioned before I let you go, there was something you mentioned. It was interesting you said win. A Weird Cup and I've always been wondering this lately. This regard any team you know if you. Let's say they bring the twenty four team thing in or they. They bring the season back in some kind of for cocteau sense. If they if it whoever wins the Kotla, says the Bruins the BRUINS. When the COP is there an Astra next to it? Is there kind of this doesn't feel as legitimate as it should. Oh. I to Bruce Cassidy about this a week or so ago. And is he said to me whichever team ends up winning? Stanley, Cup this year. their names are still going to be on the cup. Ring is GonNa look just as Nice. absolutely not If if you win this year, it's going to be just as much as if you want last year. If you win next year, the the process will be different. The world is different. In some respects, I might almost consider this more special. If you, consider the the things that the winning team is going to have to overcome shutting down the entire League for two or three months span. You know playing Stanley Cup playoff games theoretically in the months of August and September I might suggest it's harder to win this year than it is in other years I would not take a thing away from whatever team wins the Cup this year. See I think it will be a harder for team like the Bruins to win because you have all. These veterans were in a groove. who were who were you? Playing walls they were, and then you just stop them. You just stop and then you come back with. Yeah had. Sort of thing. And I understand. I might make the argument that one of the things we've talked about over the years here is. Holly. How do you by rest time for betrays Chiran for Sodano Charles? How do you make sure that they're healthy and ready to go in the Stanley Cup playoffs because they play so many heart minutes during the course of the season well. Got All the rest of you number one. you know they're going to be healthy. They're going to be ready to go. They're going to be arrested. I. Understand Brad's argument in yours. It's legit. I, the counterargument I might give is is is Patrice Bergeron ever GonNa feel better going into by off? Series said he will this year. That's the thing and the other thing is i. think this helps Rask. I mean. He said it was this morning. He hasn't been. He's been mentally Kinda getting his his Mojo back. The Passion was already there. You know 'cause you address retirement questions, but I feel like this will help his passion. It'd be helped here a little longer. Jail before you go. Is there anything you would like to plug I always? Ask you this I always. Like Nassar, I appreciate the offer. I am working on my second book right now. I'm willing to. Tell you who it's with yet. Because I'm not sure if he wants me to tell you, I will say that if you're a bruins fan. You'll like this book, and and that's all I'll say we. We've been working on it for a couple of months now and I've begun the process of writing at this stage, so The second book will be coming along, but probably not until sometime. Beginning of of the calendar year. Something like that we'll see. You told me last time you were just about starting a book as this. Is it easier to do a book right now? Because you've. Only. You don't have a lot of free time. If the show every day, so that that has adapt, but I still have I mean Mike Mike Commute went from an hour and a half a day. One Way to thirty seconds one way. I come down the stairs. I sit here in front of my picture at on my couch in the basement. so usually what happens? This was a day where we didn't have a call together, but usually. The person. I'm writing this book with and I get together. You know most afternoons we sit here for an hour or so every day and Talk Hockey, so you're. It's similar to what I'm doing with you except I'm not getting paid for doing it with you. I'm sorry about that. That would be nice. Someday I'll be able to pay the guest that'll be. Being a smart ass, I don't Care Oh Tori. Thank you so much for joining. US TO BE I'm Evan Marinov Uber's be listeners have a great rest of your week.

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Bruins Sign Craig Smith & Torey Krug Goes To The Blues | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

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Bruins Sign Craig Smith & Torey Krug Goes To The Blues | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

"And welcome in 2 episode 12 of poke the bear podcast. I'm Aronofsky alongside Conor Ryan of Boston Sports Journal Connor. And do we have anything to talk about today? I don't think we do. I really don't know. I mean maybe in just I don't know the weather the weather's nice outside 77 talk about. Yeah, I don't know. I watched you watching anything on T recently been to The Sopranos on HBO show or something like that or more more A Better Call Saul Now, I actually haven't gotten around to seeing better car a big Breaking Bad Guy, but it's haven't gone around people said it was kind of slow down to get around. Okay, you know will cut the shit. Yeah. No, there's there's a lot, you know, there's a lot going on there's quite a bit. And so by the way of Shadow me new new Mike. I hope you have some better or look better with age. Right in front of me now. It's not off to the side. This was $60 more. It's like supposedly the best Mike that can be plugged into your MacBook. So I was like hell yes sure, centers are thrilled shake it off, but I sound like an angel sound like first sex with Jesus. Yes friends a lot of stepbrothers references by the way on Twitter lately we get to that second. Yeah, so lots of stuff Bruins free agency the first half of day one was nothing there was nothing. I mean the TSN show they were grasping at straws to talk about you can only talk about or kind of Carousel enough. Yeah. They were they were really doing projects for the 2022 Olympics are projecting the Canadian teen. I was like, they're going to start doing like twenty twenty six to one point of they're going to keep on rolling with it tough tough day for content for the rest of the NHL. But Kevin Miller re-signs wasn't that big a thing but then our antennas popped up when the Bruins moved Sweeney's presser back from 5 p.m. Until 6 a.m. Saturday at 1 we thought it was much bigger. They have reportedly offered Taylor Hall a short-term three-year deal. But Torey Krug were all probably settling in for a nice fun Friday night. Whatever you decide to do whether you stand whether you go out and social justice, whatever it is who's probably cut in half like ours where when it around 8:00 Elliott Friedman tweeted out croup Saint Louis down all wet. What so what was your initial reaction to that? Very interested to hear this? Yeah. I think when the news broke that he was leaving. I don't think I think pretty much all of us were in the same boat that we thought he was going to go elsewhere and get a significant deal Saint Louis being the one to offer him that that came as a surprise. I think I don't think I really expected them to sign him considering, you know, the fact that st. Louis seem like they're still in the running for pietrangelo. They had money already tied up with a guy like Justin Faulk dead. So it came as a big surprise and I think even pietrangelo was I think pretty shocked by it too. It seemed like he was going to make the rounds and then probably come back to Saint Louis and I think as it progressed, I you know, we went from a situation where you know, Krug leaves and most of us were expecting to do it. Anyway, so you already kind of you know half way out the door of like, you know, congrats congrats improved for, you know, getting a you know, getting the bag and earning that contract that he definitely deserves been here that we wanted to team like Saint Louis which you know, I'm sure sours a lot of Bruins fans, but the fact that it seems like the issue is with the Bruins just didn't go anywhere. You know, they like, I mean you listen to Krug his you know, his first breath. There's a st. Louis blue. Yeah. He was clearly not thrilled about how's the situation went because I think we were all expecting. I'm sure you're in the same boat that you know, if you went what's a Detroit or any of these team Columbus who cleared a bunch of cap and he signed off. Is and you know seven seven and a half million a year. I think the Bruins are probably us would be like, all right. What are you going to do? Right. It's it's one of those situations where you know, the Bruins have to upgrade all the areas, you know, they ought to have him back. But if he's going to get paid somewhere else, you know, there's not really much you can do there and good for him for forgetting that contract and good for him that he's you know going your team Saint Louis who is going to pay him and he gets caught seven year contract that he deserved but I I think when you kind of get you know, Kruk side of it where they offered him a contract last year and didn't Circle back to offer them anything and then he says, you know that they pulled that off or on him. So it seems like he was waiting for a call on Friday afternoon Friday morning, and she didn't get anything from them, which is Pretty surprising. I mean again, I don't think he was going to be here going forward but the fact that there's no offer at all is pretty pretty sad on well, I was just very surprised at a lot of it. So the the Chrome S conference took place Friday night at about 9:45 eastern time and it was eye-opening for a lot of reasons and you mentioned a few of them. Number one. We it had been reported that the Bruins had offered a six year 66.5 a year million dollar deal and crew comes out and basically and because when when the deal first broke through seven years 6.5 we all said why would a year makes you happy St. Louis exactly. How does that make sense? It did become more clear though when it was reported and then crew confirmed that they pulled it back in that the deal they gave him was from a year ago. Yeah so long. I mean, I think he did want to stay in Boston. I don't think like I think some people like oh look at him going to st. Louis as he said in his press conference Saint Louis was never in the cards. And that's also another thing. That stuns me dead. Now see Mister friend this morning when you think about it if it's your big payday and it's your your long-term deal this where you're going to raise your family. This is where you are going to, you know, live out your life for seven-plus years. I'm very surprised that he didn't consider Saint Louis before and it sounded like the decision was made. Holy on winning and to me I look at that and I say were you really ready to go. Louis? Like are you sure you wanted to do this? Because part of me thinks now, I'm not saying staying with the Bruins, but I do wonder if you done research into Saint Louis cuz didn't sound like you did. It did not sound like they were ready to go to Saint Louis and it just sounded like maybe I'm wrong and it's his decision, but it kind of sounded like it was very impulsive not leaving the Bruins. I think that was always off like we all said he was gone but choosing st. Louis sounded a little impulsive. I mean, it's I think it's one of the situations right where it seems like it wasn't on his radar. He mentioned that and then you look at the options, right? I mean if he prioritized winning and getting a fair deal in the Bruins game, let's say they offered that six six and a half million dollar contract. I'm what are your what are your other options that you want to go to Detroit and make sense from the perspective of you know, he knows Jeff blashill. He's from Michigan and makes a lot of sense but like that team's not turning things around and not you know, another year to you want to go to Columbus who has a bunch of cap space but that team, you know could be good. But like, you know, it depends on how you like Tortorella. It's not a big Market. It's not the way most happening place in the NHL and not saying Saint Louis's we already have a friggin podcast or we roasted Saint Louis for the first ten minutes of it. But and even st. Louis, you know, it's his team still on the up-and-up. I mean, they've got really good pieces but joining Bennington didn't really have a good year. They're going to lose Fortran jalloh. They signed that horrible contract for Justin fog that France why they can't keep the trans hello, but you'll get all those options and if the Bruins have that offer still on the table, I bet he would have taken it because it seems like regardless of who signing contracts. Everyone's either taking short-term deals or they're taking contracts phone number. Over the market value like we were pietrangelo signs with you know, he might just end up getting eight million seven and a half million or something like that when he could have probably gotten 9 and 1/2 thousand and ten and a half if there's a normal year and I think for you know, people are saying that Torey Krug, you know, he turned down that, you know, 6 6 and 1/2 6 years 6 and 1/2 million dollar contract last year. It's like well wage one, you know, there's nothing wrong with the guy betting against himself and you know, it's not like he was saying I don't want to stay here. It's like I want to see how I get paid next year and he didn't expect it to be a McCann all these things that I'm terribly not like separately covid-19, and he probably thought that if he played through another year had another strong year she would get 8 and 1/2 nine million per year on the market and he would take probably a HomeTown discount in Boston and they probably offer him. 7 7 and 1/2 and you would probably taking it like without just one that wasn't how the situation panned out. I'll see what all the stuff that's going on this year. And then to it just seemed like the Bruins weren't interesting them back and it was just a situation where you know, you could probably hop on the fact that if they weren't interested, why didn't they either move them earlier to get a return or trade in negotiation rights, but it just seems like the Bruins weren't interested in bringing him back and they're focused more on going through other routes to improve their Rasta. It just sounded rushed to go to Saint Louis and my and my me what I mean is like I'm not saying you should have stayed with the Bruins. There was no offer which again is like they've the Bruins really I don't think we're amazing to him in that regard the fact that they pull the offer and basically said you can come back and get it but like you're on your own dude, but it just feels I don't know it just it was just it seems so quick. I was like wait you didn't consider Saint Louis? So I'm crazy stuff. I hope he has all the success he deserves all the success in the world. And st. Louis. I hope we get the news gjb. Not a great tweet, you know fact that Tori grew up in Boston is proof the hockey Gods just don't exist. So I just I mean would have been awesome to see him raise the cup here, but I think everyone wanted that to happen and unfortunately just did it and wage. I think that's what's going to Sting. The guy has an incredible Legacy with the Bruins you wrote about it last night or Friday night, but just an incredible Legacy one of the best players to cover birth. For sure, one of the nicest classiest, you know, not cocky but just very confident individual which I think you got to be to be a 5 9 guy breaking into the NHL team drafted guy and delete now as much more, you know welcoming to he's kind of smaller defenseman, but he was kind of one of the first ones to break through and what does he do he school is what full goals in his first five playoff games. From there and gets off on, you know, a stat like that and just kind of continue to prove the doubters wrong through all of it. So as much as people who like to hop on, you know, he's doesn't pull a defense anything like that. I mean for what he brought this team and so many different areas of the game, especially how he meant what he meant two players in the room, especially a lot of the the younger players. It's kind of that bridge between them and that older core of you know, Bergeron and Char and stuff like that. I mean that's definitely going to be missed cuz he was really was a key foundation in that dressing room. So, you know good for him. To get a contract like that so here to someone who could potentially be a big presence of the dressing room at a second first. You mentioned betting on yourself. What if you just bet yourself Connor told us how they can do that. Listen up Sports Bettors. 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And don't forget type in Boston Sports journal to get up to 150% and bonuses on your first deposit. That's bet u e s. So Saturday morning, I think Bruce fans got a much more encouraging piece of news was kind of like a nice way to Friday night. You got disappointed. You're heartbroken Saturday with a different girl calls you and says, hey, you know what? Maybe I'll take you on a date. Oh, these are getting better. Things are on the up-and-up now they that's a kind of a weird way to I guess compare the two but it does it does but so the Bruins signed Craig Smith Saturday morning three years 3.1 million. / I love the deal. I think you love the deal. What I was very interested to hear was Sweeney age that they talked all day yesterday. So maybe that was what was postponing the press conference was there just talking to Craig Smith all day, which may be I mean, they also have the Taylor Hall stuff so that could have a name. As well, but just your reaction to Craig Smith now being a bruin. Yeah, I mean, I love that contract and what he brings his team and how he addresses a major role in this lineup and over at Boston Sports Journal. We had a few stories earlier this offseason kind of focusing on Craig Smith and why he'd be a great value pick up because it wasn't he does not have the same, you know appeal as you know, a Mike Hoffman or a dad and all for one of these guys. I mean his name even sounds like an NHL 20 name generator, right? And this is the guy who does draft in like twenty thirty seven, you know who becomes like a thirty goal scorer like you I don't even know who this guy is. He has orange hair. It's it's like it's just one of those weird setups there, but you look at what Craig Smith brings his team though, perhaps, you know, even if you look at the Baseline numbers, you know, the the stuff you look at real quick. He's a 20-goal skora scored twenty goals and five is nine years, but I think we're his real value is just a a short heavy game. I guy who generates quality looks pretty much every time he's out on the ice defensively responsible guy. I mean he ranked, you know, he primarily with a 3rd line last month with the Predators with Benigno and Grimaldi not really a line that stands out to you. You're not dealing with you know, earliest Pattinson line or you know, Crosby's line or McDavid, you know off a brochure online. There's no quality. Yeah, but I mean they they let all those lines in terms of goals for percentage. I mean they, you know, it was not even remotely close in terms of how much natural is consistently winning their match up scoring plenty of goals. Negating is going to be on the other end of the ice when that wins out there and it's not just a flash-in-the-pan. I mean, he's dead Greg Smith's done that on multiple different lines use with, you know, fiala interest few years back in that third line was also buzzsaw. So I think when you look at the Baseline numbers of what you're getting is a 20 goal scorers, The value I mean a three-year contract, you know, three and three point 1 million dollars for you, which is a great bag and for them. It's not like you're you know handcuffing you're still yourself the rest of this offseason in terms of making more moves from and you know, it kind of depends on where exactly the the plans off of them and in terms of where they want to put him. I think if you have him next to coil, you're all that, I mean you've got I think an elite third line there you finally have a triggerman to play with coil cuz it's the same thing every year I think with the coil and that line we we know he protects the puck. We know he extends his own possessions, but those don't factor that much into it if you're not bearing those chances, right and that's kind of what the problem is you with coil. And now you have a legitimate guy who's ready and willing pretty much of a chance he gets to let go of that puck in generate a shot on goal. So I think he put him with coil your You're set with what that third line is and it's just an extra wave of scoring if he's higher up in the lineup and he's you know competing with Andre Kasha one of those guys for a top-six spot off then you know, I still think he's very very good player at you know, ideally I think you'd want to have a more said sure if I a guy up there but regardless of you know, where exactly goes to line up when you add in the email you get from this contract plus of what you're expecting to get from him. I think it's a steal, you know, it's funny. If you're if you're going to the Stanley Cup Smith's your third line right winger if you can put in with coil and preferably sneak, please God not Nick Ritchie, but you know, they're going to try it anyways, but just jacks Anika there would be perfect that line. I think would be awesome. That's the basically a second second line. But I want to propose this. I just thought of this as you were talking. What about Marshawn Bergeron Smith? Because again, you have Marshawn Bergeron always produce can put Smith up there. I mean, he has the you know, the analytics the goalscoring the numbers. I mean, he's a good solid player to put with them as he pastrnak know but nobody is try him up there move pastrnak down with krejci and let Kasha and debrusk found that out let you know cause she spent some time in the third line. I mean again how she could work on the second line. Anyways, who knows but I think that's the thing that Cassidy will definitely try and think you should try it because you know out of those top nine. That's not a bad. That's not a bad right side, you know posture Akasha Smith. I mean that you can play with those you can you know, put guys in different places. You can keep it off my conscious Smith. Um, but if there's anything I think that it's obvious there's there's more than needs to be done. Definitely. I mean there has to be more that comes down because they got a left side Marshawn debrusk said she has really not a great guy on the left side in my opinion. So it's like what I think you'd want him to be in a right spot or Center role which I don't think is coming at least next Thursday. So more needs to be done. But that's not a bad Top 9 as is you know for right now to finish, you know, that that is getting you to the second round. It's just I think you need one more piece to get you pass jog around the other thing I think is interesting is I think Craig Smith and Tyler toffoli are a lot closer to the people think like I think people generally generally look at those two and go. Oh two phone number. Much better we have to consider to Foley was on a team in Los Angeles that was terrible offensively the past few years and Craig Smith was on a name wise stacked offensive team the Predators at least you forsberg Duchesne tourists stunk there. But I mean, I think the explains a lot more out of him. He took up, you know a spot so I look at that and I think well Maybe they're you know, the numbers are closed the analytics favor Smith. So it's like I think you know to getting to Foley would be great. But I think we get someone for that left side with Taylor Hall. And and that's hard cuz it's only like twelve million in cap space. Now the Bruins have and you have to Brusque to resign you have Chris like to re-sign you have Chara to re-sign. Can you afford Hall and that I mean, I think I think there's got to be contract with there's gotta be more trades coming. So on the topic of Taylor Hall because that's the fun topic. Do you think this happens? I mean, I think there's a chance it all depends on what the suitors on what the contract offers are out there cuz you see a few of these other cup contenders. And then other than maybe Colorado. I don't know what other you know legitimate Contender would offer him a good deal. Like Boston would would be a short-term contract for a team that you look at the team and it seems like you can probably put them off the top. I mean you you look at what Hall brings and for as much if you will say, you know, he's not a win. It's like look at the team's he was he's been saddled with for his entire career. I mean, I don't know what you're expecting him to bring to this group. But I mean, I think it'd be a fantastic pick up but you can do it you would have to move other pieces around and if let's say you signed Hall would probably do is they don't you take other pieces that are in the middle six or or what have you and you probably I would assume probably package them in a trade for a left shot D is most likely would be so maybe debrusk and other pieces or You're going to find a way to get other contracts off the books, whether it's you know, John Moores contract or Richie's or something like that. So it'd be a lot of maneuvering but if you look at this offseason, I mean you're seeing a black guys settle for cheaper to contract mean people about Tyson. Barrie was going to make 5 and 1/2 6 million dollars a year on a four or five-year deal and he goes to Edmonton for one year, right? So you're seeing a lot of these contracts where these guys are. I think anyone in my whole there. Yeah, and you know, you read the market and you see how I mean, we'll see what happens when pietrangelo signs dunce when he says he hasn't had discussions with tranchulas camps, but if he goes to Vegas, you know, is it going to be in Vegas? The only one who can really offer him a big contract they going to hand them seven years ten million, you know, like is he or is he going to sign, you know, like 7049 million, you know, like it all depends on what these contracts going to look like. So again don't overlook what it seemed like Columbus and Nashville can offer Hall from just the the Dead A huge, you know long-term contract, but if there's a this is a situation with the Bruins have cap space and not hamstrung by contracts. They can move contracts around 5 if need be it's not like they're stuck with a Bacchus or something like that. You can't move it's you know, you'd have to move a guy like the Brusque which you know is unfortunate cuz I still think he has value but you probably get something good in return for a younger player like that. So it's certainly possible. I'm sure when we have our next podcast our opinions will be very hopefully we'll be changed. Hopefully this isn't carrying into Palm mid next week or anything like that, but it's definitely a possibility cuz you look at some of these other teams out here. I don't know what other team offers him what the Bruins can bring him. It's just depends more than him in his agent down ferrets are willing to take a maybe a more of a short-term deal. I mean the if you look at the Predators and the Blue Jackets, I mean, I guess Nashville can offer Nashville city and it's it's amazing. It's a nice place and it's warm in the winter and all that stuff off. Nationals warm in the winter, right? Yes, it's Pleasant. Yeah, it's Pleasant. It's good when you know, I like shorts in January or something like that, but you don't dare code. Yeah good enough. But so I took it the Bruins lineup and like let me read you this first line Marshawn Bergeron post-rock second line haul krejci Kasha third line. Probably Bjork oil Smith. I would think you'd have to get rid of debrusk. I have a hard time believing if you get Hall you can keep debrusk. Yeah. I mean, I think you left Dean so so that's so that's where dabros comes in cuz you have Chris looking McEvoy and then question mark and Carlo. So if you said to Taylor Hall like if I'm John Sweeney, we said look Taylor listen here. You're going to go on the second line with David. Krejci. We're going to trade Jake debrusk for a left shot d-man. So we're going to have a great top for Hyundai have a great top nine forwards and we are going to repeat all three years of your deal for Stanley Cup. How do you feel like to me? That's the selling point like you're going to win here you are going to play in postseason games you're dead. It's a guarantee and we're going to use your own power plays we're going to use you. Well like to me that is the selling point and that's and and and Bjork by the way with coil and Smith, I think but also be really good off again bureaucracy to start finishing his chances and you know, you have someone who is a legit potential top-six guy French top success. So the Taylor Hall stuff I think is really interesting cuz you would fit so well, yeah, I I also think too would be better here than maybe even Colorado excited assume if you went to Colorado. He probably switch out with landeskog and probably on that Top Line where it's like, all right, you're the guy who puts this already great line and 2 overages. I feel like who knows what Taylor Hall wants out of this, you know, he prioritises winning. I'm sure also a nice little caveat even though Boston's a big Market. It's you know, it's not like, you know, John Tavares signing with Toronto where the local aspect plays into it too, but he's supposed to be this another, you know, top-line Center that you pair up is kind of that that double headed monster with with Matthews down the middle like here would be off right you're not you know jumping in your not replacing an option with with Bergeron. You're the number two guy with crazy on the second wine, you know, you're not like the the focal point like the focal point of that whole offense with with boss and you fit in as a what the Bruins have been needing and that's flawed but you know, it's not like he's the the Savior coming in. He's not like Chara in in 06 where you like this guy's gonna be the foundational piece or something like that. He's just a very very good player who puts you over the top, you know, he's like almost like a a better drummer. Good luck. Yeah. He's yeah, he exactly like that or a hole in where'd he feels a robe? But he's just that step above what what those guys can bring and I'm sure for a player like that. It's probably good that it's not like he's the guy the the Savior coming in to put this team into a position to contend for a cup 30 cup contenders, but he just makes you that much better. Yes, the I feel like if you go to Nashville or Columbus, he's the Savior as you said and he comes here. I don't think you have that that complex. It's like oh, you're just walk, you know, you're an added piece to help us win a Stanley Cup, and I think that I mean if you can get you know, Den you have three set lines you can you know, they have the whole year to play together and they're going to be consistent you this chemistry and I think even getting just Craig Smith gives you that consistency where you're not, you know, definitely slipping pieces. You can for sure say coil and Smith will beat you out of the whole year and you know, I'm on the left side all that stuff. So should be very interesting. And as you said things are probably going to accelerate it would be awesome for the Bruins to get Taylor Hall just from a Content perspective just from how interesting. I think it would be dead. I think for fans, you know you fans listening. I mean, I think it would and I don't I don't have to sell anybody on Taylor at all. I feel like I'm selling people on the idea of Taylor and all but I really think it would be so interesting and I think it would reject this Bruins team over the top potentially much better chances against Tampa Bay and that second round especially if you're losing Tyler Johnson. Yep, kind of a big thing. I was most reasonable wage and like these movies are going to be happening now. Oh, I forgot by the way. Yes, Torey Krug was right. I mean. Sweeney was right choice was right to say screw, you know Tori kroge like that. That is that the ultimate the ultimate take is people who are like, I know the animal Antics won't going Frank Frank Smith or something, but he's not Mike Hoffman. I'm like, he's better than my coffin you idiots. Like Torey Krug is a trainer. If you can't beat them join them like that is dead. Funny how people being like groups of snake toward Kruk. I'm done with Tori Cruise have a contract off. He has you dummy what dude he's a human being. He's trying to make money the bruising even offer anything let the man be I hope to work groups was a hundred goals and went to Stanley Cup every year. That's st. Louis directions. Yeah now so much same style pizza now, that's so that's the one try. That's a real tragic novice. He has to get that bootleg ass pizza. That's funny that like him in Robert Thomas were tweeted each other. Yeah, just like that hit was so busy and just so humiliating for Robert Thomas. Like that's not something that you can just like tweet away. That's like funny now like you you you got your manhood taken away from you on that head like you aren't a u are not a human being anymore. Yeah, but definitely interesting but lots of crazy stuff Connor before we go. What are you working on it yesterday that people can look forward to yeah. We're breaking down kind of gone. Sweeney's press log. Friends from from Saturday afternoon. We're looking ahead of what kind of the next steps are this seems like every day something new is going to be happening. So who even knows what's going to happen later tonight in terms of how this affects wage offseason because I think you see from the Craig Smith move in in, you know, if you're looking at the lens of just this contract it's great. But you want to sit with the other pieces out that are going to fall for this team. So we'll have you covered every step of the way over a thousand Sports channel. Subscribe there. You can follow me on Twitter at Connor on the school and 93 Connor. We'll have you covered up. Yes J V over at CLS media follow both and for poke the bear episode off you guys. Have a great rest of your free agent Frenzy.

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224: Should Bruins Go After Alex Pietrangelo & Trades Bruins Should Make w/ Conor Ryan

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224: Should Bruins Go After Alex Pietrangelo & Trades Bruins Should Make w/ Conor Ryan

"This is September 22nd. And this is the Bruins beat on Stihl MS media and welcome back to the Bruins be. Honest media. My name is Devon Baranowski. And we are fully immersed in the off-season at least for the Bruins. Obviously, they only come continues on that's a very exciting series between the stars and the lightning. Hope you guys are watching. It's definitely fun cuz it's weird. I mean, we don't know when hockey's have to come back, you know, Gary Bettman talked this past weekend on you know, when he thinks hockey could be back. He said it could be moved from the tentative phone number first start as supposed to have so this could be the last hockey for a little while here. Not just depress. Yeah, but we don't really know if it's going to start December 1st or if it's going to start January when it's going to suck. What I will say though is this offseason is going to be crazy the trades with the Bruins won't be a lot on the free-agent front but more the trays and so that's what Conner Ryan from Boston Sports journal and I toss About in this episode which was there, you know potential trades the Bruins could make we also kick the tires on probably the top free agent and whether or not the Bruins could be in on him as well. You'll see the topic is in the episode like a little tease. Yeah, you gotta listen a little bit to get the to get all the answers before I give you all those answers the wait is finally over because football is dead back. You might not be at the game this year, which I know you aren't at the game at least with the Patriots, but you can still be in on the action at that online but online is going the extra mile to make sure you can set get on everything imaginable this season from game spreads and totals to team player and coaching props. Been online gives you more options to wager than any place online. You can get it on the their season opener bonuses today and start off wagering on win Division and Championship Futures today print things are pretty good for the Patriots. So maybe it's time to bet on them head on over to get online today and take advantage of all the grey dog. Sign up bonus has been online your online Sportsbook experts without further Ado here is my conversation with Conor Ryan off. And we're here with Conor Ryan Conor. What is up as a much man? What's going on with you? How about that Patriots game last night? No instant classic. It's one of those classic off one of those ones where like no one was really super mad at the end of it was like when they almost came back against the Niners when they were nasty and like 2012, whatever. That one was everyone else. I can do it looks really damn good. So what's funny is that's the first loss you felt good about first Patriots lost you felt good about in forever. I mean, I've never I I remember the feeling of having a loss and week two for the Patriots then being like Oh, yeah, they're going to be all right, like it's never to be found to be fair feels fine right now, but you know, we're you know, we'll wait till the radio, you know personalities. Come on and see how what the narrative is after that, but I don't know how you really should be discouraged every game log. Yeah, I can't I mean just and and for the Bruins list of listeners, I mean, I hope you watch the game. It was a great game great game. It would have been nice to see them punch it in in the final stage, but cant have it. All. In fact, they even were in that position was pretty surprising considering it felt like game was over much earlier earned Midway through the fourth quarter. But anyways, great game over there. You can go follow off its coverage at Patriots on clns or Patriots beat you like the little plug. I just kind of yeah, that was like a little man nice segue expert move, but I will say that there's Bruins stuff to talk about so instead of talking about I wish we would be talking about a game right now, but be very fun if we could be talking about an actual Bruins game right now. If we were a Stars beat or lightning bulb we can do that game too is Monday night. So when you hear this there will be there would have been a second game stars are currently up one nothing in that series surprisingly. But again the Bruins won the game. First game of the Stanley Cup last year and then lost it. So winning game one does not mean everything but the Stars looked pretty damn good you would say in game one. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean again, it seems like it's more random guys kind of stepping up. I mean, you know, if you told me the beginning of the season one that the Cup Final would be being played in late September. I wouldn't believe you but the fact that took the goal scorers for them it was you know, just a bunch of random dudes or depth guys or you know, you'll kinvara is still, you know, just going off its entire postseason when he only played I think ten games during regular season. So I mean, it seems like that teams just get everyone's clicking at the right time and Anton khudobin still red-hot. I think you have 35 out of 36 saves. So it's a good formula for success. Even good and it's been a fun series to watch. I imagine it will continue to be a fun series to watch but on the Bruins front now you head towards the offseason you head towards free agency you had towards trades which is always find it looks like this offseason could be that I will start with free agents Alex pietrangelo late last week the the blues come out and then pietrangelo confirm the report that they were going to have him explore free agency. They were like, dude. Why don't you go somewhere else? Why don't you go explore free agency and if you don't get anything there maybe we can work something out but he wants a lot. I think it was the it was said he wanted like 9.4 a year at 9 going like at least 9.25. I think he compared it to like the I think whatever me yossi signed his extension in Nashville. I thought was kind of The Benchmark that he wants to kind of release be around that level in terms of an annual value. So he what's funny is he's been a really dominant good defensively Bruins fans. Saw that firsthand dead. In that Series last year, but consistently, I mean, he's been a good defenseman for them this year with the scoring Pace seems a little much I think yet over 70 points. I don't know if that is something that's going to be sustainable cuz he's Thirty. So again, like we're sitting here with Torey Krug giving a thirty-year-old defensive and a large contract like that doesn't usually always work out but you travel Captain but fragile is a good to a guy. He's a again good all-around defenseman. You need to win a cup. Do you hand the money to buy like the Trent you kick the tires on a guy like pietrangelo even I mean I think maybe you could kick the ties on I just don't know how realistic it is a guy like came when you kind of look at where he fits in it again, if a guy like pietrangelo is available, you you find a spot to fit him in if you have the money in the the need for them, but you kind of just look at his overall skill set and where he kind of fits in cuz believe he's he's a right shot defenseman, right? Yes. He's right check guys. I mean there's that problem in terms of You know, you got McAvoy in Colorado there and maybe just situation where you you trade Kalo if you're looking at acquiring maybe top six Talent. Maybe you trade him and then you sign gallon Angelo but the end you're committing a whole bunch of money to a guy who's thirty years old and the way he kind of projects. You still think you probably got really good value for three four years, maybe, you know, three years of the minimum in terms of of being a legitimate, you know top pairing guy, but still if you're going to be forking over, you know, 9 9 and 1/2 million per year for Galaxy Note that you know, I think this probably other fits where you could either acquire maybe more of a, you know, a second pairing, you know, twenty minutes a night guy for cheaper in terms of an annual value or on the trade market or you know divert that money towards you know, it's odd 6 guy cuz I think that's more pressing than you know, maybe replacing Gala crew who has a dog Skills, but you know as long as you get maybe a solid kind of you know top for like, you know, I'll toss are like what you say TJ Brodie or someone like that who's a solid kind of to a guy probably cost you a month-and-a-half five and half million. Maybe that's maybe a little bit of a better deal in terms of you know feeling in that Gap and then using those other resources to get a top-six guy rather than you know signing pietrangelo for Big Money. He'd be worse, you know, over two million more than any other guy if he signs a nine half a million dollar contract here and then you have to you know fit in the other places where you're trading Kalos still, you know, very very strong shut down the guy a guy who should still keep on getting better, which also on you know, a good contract right now and I don't think he's going to break the bank when he signs a big deal next year. So I like a luxury I would say if you if you want to Fork over that money, but What makes the Bruins better? Yes, but I still think you look at all the other kind of fires. They have to put out it makes it kind of tough to make it a realistic thing. That's one of those ones where like you playing on a gel and you're doing like franchise mode and you simply yeah season and then you look at you. All right. Well, you know, I think a little bit of cap space. So maybe the team still looks good and then like you look at on it and it's like they've assigned, you know, you have the trends low and like okay. Well you had the same group coming back like I'll take it but like we can't sign anyone next year now. Well, so here's the thing if you did bring a guy like him on I think eventually have to trade someone like McAvoy because Mac voice the guy on D who's projected to get the most money. He's projected to get down big-time deal whenever that happens. So I think he ultimately is the one that probably would have to get dealt not someone like Carl I think Carla you can keep because he would be less money back of her to be the one who would have to go cuz any become your second. Wait jumps fences, you're not going to pay all that just I can pay right. Defense, but but but but but you're right. You're right. I mean I have not had a good history of signing veterans from st. Louis. Yeah Blues Champions. No. Yes. Not too great, but I don't think that would happen with potential. I think he would be as you said good for free month or maybe five years after that. I think it's very thin. I will say this though. I think it's off season is proving to be very vital for defense of free agents that are at the top of their game in the sense of you. Look at Krug. You look up a transload 29 30 years old looking to get their first big long deal big, you know, pietrangelo was making six point five a year right now. I believe which for guy like him is severely underpaid wage. But do you think we start to see these guys get their big contracts earlier like because teams clearly don't want to pay thirty year olds. They you know, they they shouldn't at least offer. You know, I mean for Treasure was twenty-five. These would be huge sweepstakes Krueger's 25 the Bruins at hand him. This has the contract he wants so he's Thirty huge think that in the next coming years as we're seeing with goalies and and and and not wanting to pay them. Do you think we sort of see teams with defenseman and forward say we're going to pay you away earlier and your big contracts going to come when you're twenty-five dead. 4:30. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure teams would probably prefer that and though if you look at just the the state of the market and the the way it's all set up now you would think it probably is going to shift to that eventually, you know, I think as you've said it's probably unfortunately for a few of these guys who work harder and are do these these big contracts, you know, this is kind of unfortunate probably be a rude awakening for them where you know, it's it's doing a large part to the fact that you know, the the cap is staying flat and we don't know when that's going to jump up again because you know, I don't think we're going to have going to next offseason, you know, expecting the cap to jump up two thousand eighty four eighty-five million. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I think it's probably going to stay the same. If not, maybe marginally a little bit more because you know, they're waiting for the revenue to get back to what was this year before? Everything went to shit and I don't know when you're expecting that Revenue to be that way because you know, you're still waiting for Seattle come which will going to be next season, you know the year after and you don't know how long you going to have fans in the stands, which is a huge hit on the revenue for the league. So, I don't know, you know, what teams are going to Fork over, you know, 8 and 1/2 9 and 1/2 million this offseason to even a home tablet great Cup winning defense for like the transit low like a fuse 25-26. Yeah, of course and I think you know, if you're a team like st. Louis who had his rights back, then you would like to sign to a big term DDOS back then that's why I think you know Saint Louis being. All right. Well, you know, we'll be here like see what you get out there. Like there's again never, you know, overlooked of the one dip wage team that will hand out a contract that it's not that shouldn't be doing like look at but Brodsky last see with Florida like there's always going to be that one dipshit team, but I think when you just log Just the way the market is now and just teamed realizing that there's going to be a few, you know, a little bit of hardship ahead in terms of me. Look at a team like Arizona or is going to you think would have the cap space to be a player. It can't even friggin pay off their own like, you know, the company that manages their Arena like I don't think they're going to be big players as off-season. When you combine that with the fact that the revenues going to be shocked at home for at least the first few months of next season. So yeah, I think it's going to be something where I think not even I think maybe defense or anything any forward, you know, who's 28 29 or you know, 29 30 31. The market is not going to be there cuz like teams have to be more cognizant of paying for future potential as opposed to you know, pass past performance. You just can't do it in the way the market is now home. Well, that's the issue. I mean, you know, the the Steep decline guys see in their 30s is so great and it's been we've seen it so much in the past five six years, but That's when they want their big deal. They want that. You know that those bad years are going to be in that long-term deal. They want Mexicans asking for a ton at 37 now granted like he deserves Capital should pay it. You know, they learned that they should be paying their guys with Barry trotz, but you never know. They're also the blues gave Justin Faulk a huge. Yeah a contract last year, which was really odd and everyone was like, well, that means pietrangelo is gone flux. Not even that great know they they the blues for winning a cup and for having actually like a pretty solid core to keep on building off of Palm you did a absurd amount of dipshit moves during this past off-season no sense so over thought it and now they can't re-sign the captain. So yeah, Joe Joe Haggerty tweeted that, you know, he wouldn't be surprised to the Bruins kick tires on him. I probably would be surprised to see them really inquire cuz I just don't think it's a huge fit I think patras. Is going to get money and go towards the team that needs that veteran leader. Defenseman anyone's don't need the veteran presence and they don't need the long-term notice of the deal. They don't need the money that you wanted to come to Boston for a 3 year 9 million dollar deal go crazy, but I think he he wants seven eight years. So that's not going to happen with the other defenseman long-term expensive defenseman. This is what the Bruins I get started on this offseason. Yeah over ekman-larsson and this was reported at the pros were in on Thursday last week Elliott Friedman 31 thoughts. We both are against the deal. You wrote a piece about it. I've I tweeted it, you know, this is not the deal. This is not the guy you want. But what if the Bruins were to get Oliver ekman-larsson, what would you give up and what what would happen to the rest of the roster? Yeah. I mean, I think it'd be kind of a fit on the rasta. It would be easier to accommodate him supposed to pietrangelo where you get pietrangelo. I think everyone's first thought would be for me and you would be oh that's pretty interesting. Oh shit. They have to get rid of you know Kalo or McEvoy one of those guys. You're making it you making your already busy offseason how much harder for yourself ekman-larsson of crude walks, you know, he can fill in either that you know the top are there in a second pair. Imagine to be a top pairing guy with McEvoy, which is a pretty good group to roll out together, but I think in terms of the cost it all comes down to how much money Arizona's willing to eat on that contract cuz that's the biggest biggest issue that I mean if he was available for six six and half seven million even have to be much more intriguing vote, you know, he's twenty-nine the metrics fog Seem like they're dipping a little bit but I don't put any I don't not I don't put any stock in it. But I also am curious to see what he would do in a system outside of what Rick tocchet and what they have in Arizona cuz holyshit every time a talented playmaking guy goes Arizona there often just dries up. So I'd be curious to see how he would do, you know in a place like Boston or even he's not necessarily the number one guy, you know, you know, I'm not going could be you know, the Bruins best defenseman, you know going into next year for the next ten years, you know, and definitely Larson's a very very very good number to Dad's that much better for him and for the Bruins, but I think it all comes down to that cost cuz you know, in fact you got seven years left on that contract. Oh, yeah 8.25 million a year. So you bring him in he's already making a million more than David. Krejci is the highest paid player. So I think you look at the cost would all come down to you know, if you acquired him you took the entire huge as contract off Arizona's books considering how long Screwed they seem to be the cause probably isn't awful. Like you're still giving up, you know solid solid amount of guys. But if you know, if you want to work out a deal where Arizona eat off being a 15% of it or something and you know, you're paying them six point two five million or six million you better for the Bruins, but you also have to forgive up more prospects. So I think Arizona obviously the fact that they lost a 2020 second-round pick and they lost a 2021 first-round pick because of their you know their violations with the the draft and the things, you know scouting our way I figure out which which part of it is in terms of what the actual fine print. What is what they lost to pick up we're doing some dip should stuff. So obviously going to be looking at recouping pics. So maybe it's 20 21 first month. Um, you know, they probably won't cost control guys. So, you know, maybe it's a a Buick or something like that or whose only under contract for one point six million. So those are kind of a pieces that stand out but The cost may not be too bad if you want to take in that whole contract. But if you're the Bruins, I don't know you want to put that on your books for a guy who is 29 had a lot of really really good years, but still a lot of risk, you know, like a slam-dunk a guy that you want to be giving eight, you know, 8.25 million a year to 6.5. That'd be yeah, you know at that point. He's interesting enough and is a good fit enough with this team that you'd be willing to see how it works out. But 8.25 a lot. I don't know how Arizona gets this contract off their books. I don't I mean, I think you have to only you know, you have to eat some of it and let the team you trade him to eat off the majority but you gotta eat some of it because that deal does not look good. I mean that's you know again, I don't mind the player. I think he's I think he's solid he's good, but he's not worth that amount of money. And again if he came to the Bruins and he's making 8.25, you know, damn well in a few years from McEvoy has to negotiate his next big deal to be like if he's dead. 8.25 I'm making nine or ten because that's sort of the potential. We see McAvoy hitting so you screw yourself over that you screw yourself with the McEvoy negotiations. I don't think you want to touch is Oliver ekman-larsson deal, but I will say It's nice to see the bruise it on some big trades. It's nice to see them kicking tires on making a legit big team changing roster shake-up move. And so we'll get into that right now. That is the right move. That is the right not the actual medicine but being in on that the right move, but I don't know who you would go you need for words. You need to forward for that because we both said on defense you can go out and sign a Brandon deal on a TJ brodia. Maybe a Travis hammock. I mean always a right shot defenseman, but you go out and sign a cheaper off top for mid-level defenseman. You don't have to give everything to a franchise defenseman per se right on offense top six guys. Who do you like? And what are they going to give up? I mean, I think the one guy that I've always been a big fan of in terms of you know, I wish they either went after them again. It depends on what the team who currently has rights willing to, you know, give up the guy for but I think he got Kyle Palmieri stands out as a, you know, top six proven guy who is dead. You know an offensive Improvement offensive guy who they they could fit in next either Bergeron or create. She was also, you know fantastic defensively as well. You know, he's not Mike Stone but he's kind of mocks don't light a little bit that you know, I think he's underrated in terms of what his overall kind of package. He brings out on the ice veteran guy, you know, I think maybe 28 29 maybe maybe just turned Thirty but still a good job that you know, he's going to be a free agent next year but you've got this one year with him. So the cost might not be as bad. If you're willing to give up, you know some draft capital or a couple of prospects. So I think he's God would be the top of my list in terms of being a guy that would just solve that top six problem, you know without having to get to you know crazy in terms of you know, really a brooding the entire roster. I think you put in palm tree you feel a lot better about how your you go into next year where you don't have to worry about either one of those two lines, you know, you put them with krejci. You're all set. You put pots mark down creates you put them with Bergeron. You're all set. You got another wage. To a guy up there. He's got stands out. You know, I think you look at a guy like a best seller out in in Vancouver that's going to be fast and see what they do this offseason because that team is that seems coerced act like you look at Vancouver and how they're built. There were Toronto has thought that are good. We're going to get for like the last five years. It's just like that group is a works so much better and you know guys, like rather see that out in Vancouver than in Toronto OH exactly. Yeah. I mean you look at you know Patterson who everyone knows is great. But I think you watch them in this postseason you realize that that dude like his office maybe like a top ten player and like he's he's pretty legit and Quinn Hughes fantastic as well. He's going to be up there with McCarr and hey skin and I think and hopefully McEvoy is this kind of next month of of franchise defenseman, but you'll get how much how many City contracts that betting assigned over that time and Vancouver, you know, maybe ideally, you know, they'd find a way to offload, you know dead. Loui eriksson's contract with some of those other terrible contracts they signed but again, you look at the way this Market is I don't know who's going to take that money unless you know, it's I think everyone this offseason is more concerned with saving money that opposed to acquiring assets. So it's like all right. We're going to be in a flat cap for a few years. I'm not taking another pic just to take your shity Loui Eriksson contract off the books. I don't think anyone wants to do that this offseason unless you brought up in a certain amount of assets. So, you know, if a guy Esther's available, that would be you know, a hefty price you'd be looking at I think, you know Carlo or someone like that but he's a guy though that young proven scorer a great shot, especially on at even-strength. He's a great even-strength score, which is exactly what you need on this team. So with the guy that kind of stands out but I mean, there's a whole bunch of you know top six guys or even guys who are you know, maybe middle six that could just fit in on a second line role that would work, but I think Palm In terms of just being a veteran guy that makes the most sense. He's kind of at the top of my list in terms of how he would immediately impact this team. So he'd be at the top of mind as well. I mean primary was talked about a lot of the trade deadline. I thought the brochure in Dedham. I mean you just made again made lots of sense can fit in the top two lines and he's not going to cost you a lot in a deal. I mean, this is a guy, you know his prolific as he's been I don't think he's strong The 60-point Marked ever. So you're not. I mean, I don't think you're giving up a ton. You're going to give up a good amount sending you. Yeah, I think like, you know, first round pick and and 2021 first-round pick and you know off work and you know, a couple other prospects it's not something already. Thank you. It's like, you know you looking at friggin like Sid Nika or you know, maybe a few of these other younger top six guys where Kalo has to be the the picture giving up like for a vet on a one-year deal, you know, this is try to not give up that first round pick because you've had so few I think with that route you also try to avoid Sydney, So if you can get them to take a guy off Like Beecher or a guy like Frederick, I like that so much more. I mean again, those are first round talents their first-round talents. If you can also appear black York with them. Maybe it's more attention to be granted there. You know, we know people know what they are. I mean New Jersey things they can retool them, but I think for sure you're giving up a top prospect in a teacher or Frederick and Bjork and maybe someone else maybe a second round pick in there. But I like I love Palmieri love the player would absolutely want him on want the Bruce to go out for you mentioned that by the way bad contracts for the Canucks know the Canucks side Tyler Myers last July to that 5 year 30 million dollar deal like what an absolute train wreck of a deal thirty years old, you know, they've Louis Erickson who are the other dumb Congress on the team yourselves. I mean those ones that stand out. Yeah. There's there's a whole bunch that are just it's just like the volume how many contracts Ones that aren't like like Loui Eriksson and Maya is ones who stand out like rip your hair up. There's other ones where like that guy's not carrying his way worth of what that cap is when you got all these younger players and dirty in the cap crunch not even paying these guys are going to be due to get you know, major money next year. I know best cars under contract they signed him to a deal that is pretty good and should look pretty good for the next couple of years. But you know when he was impetus and these guys are up like holy shit to it. Like what where's the money going to be March or is a free agent as well? Yeah, and he's I think he's gone. So absolutely has to be I mean, they can't pay him. He's going to get across of money. But so some other guys, I like best sir. I think he'd be great. I think you're going to have to give up Carlo on a deal for him. But I do think that does make you a and and we said this before to make a nice trades and this kind of goes for any trade but especially this Bruin steam, you gotta make sure your team's getting better. You've got to make sure that you are getting that you're getting the best player back in the deal. I think if you trade for broadcast or if you age Carlo maybe a first forgot like best for me. I think he's good enough, you know potentially got like Bjork in there as well. I think you're definitely getting better. Your team is getting better. You're feeling indeed wage because you know, you have right shot defenseman. I love Carlo. I don't want to trade Carlo. I don't think anyone wants to trade Carlo. But if you're getting your team better, especially for now, so be it I think is rather interesting names. I don't off the keys whatever trade a guy to the Bruins. I can't remember the last Bruins Canadians move. I don't think they yet but a Max domi's interesting thing interesting not so I think the pros are going to get him but he's he's had some big production years before. Chopsticks guy you have a lot of guys at watering holes who are just pissed over the Bruins out the way they were in the eighties and stuff like that be very happy to get a kind of a an agitator like Dome. Yeah, you would fit well with the with the the whole note read the old breed he would fit very well with the guy standing out at Fenway Park with his dog had up blowing it on TV pumped. You would be very psyched. I think that guy is the absolute, you know model for someone who who wants me a lot of music to be back on the Bruins. Yeah, it's funny. That was by the way my favorite moment of the year. I think that that that guy coming out on fen-phen way breaking into the stadium no idea how he got in. I mean, it was most entertaining thing. He saw Fenway this year. It's almost anyway yesterday when that happened. I was I was like, I was right by when they won the game like there was legitly no one over there. It's like a ghost town and they're playing dirty water and it was like the most dystopian thing every month. You know, my light supposed to bury the video I was so so weird. I was I was hoping that I was going to be walking and just like that dude. You just you just like shuffling down. They go pull it just running down like Jersey Street. Like I hope we're going to talk to him. But remember nine-eleven a bunch of guys on America. I think that I think the cops grabbed him before we could we could make a citizen's arrest. So well what's funny is not to get off topic here, but he turns the head out on the field and then he reaches under his shirt and it's another hat but if you're on the field or you're an Umpire, you're the cops like you have no idea what that guy's reaching for God. So that was a huge huge bullet dodged but it was also very funny. I'm glad that happened. I mean the guy looks like he should be like working on like a he should be with Jake and whoever the other guy was who caught the fish out in the Harbour like I mean, I do looks like he just came like straight out of mold. And so yes. Yeah, I that's funny. Like I wonder what when he might have had something Mental health issues but I do you think is totally right. What I do Wonder like what that thought process is like. Oh so freaking defend my part. It'd be funny if who's a guy who loaded up at like Cosco Flags like this is going to be my moment buddy and just like did that I don't think that was okay. I think the guy could we had some problem but it was just like some girone you like wanted to break into it would be much much money. It would be so good. They thought I do think though that that I wonder what the thought process is like. Oh schedule the green monster and break into Fenway shot or how you're going to do that. So we're going to get arrested at the pot off. But I saw the time for the first time by the way over quarantine, I know that's a coin but it's the first time it was great movie. Oh my God, those sort of like warranty thing was like, I've met so many great movies. I'd never seen like social network. I'd never seen a fantastic movie fantastic movie and I was like, I gotta watch these you know, and so I did but so not to get enough topic from crazy, but don't be together interests me another one who sort of goes to that Bruins idea and a Bruins fan DME on this this week on Twitter probably up to me. I got like mantha wage always kind of been, you know, maybe man that would work. I'm not super high on mantha and I'm not super high on giving a lot for him either so he's not someone I would Wasn't that hard? I don't think Detroit would give him up. You know, I think yzerman's need that needs to hold onto a few of these building blocks. I think mantha still young he's half the time these guys are even him and lock in a few. These other guys are playing the dogshit like that team sucks. Yeah, nothing around him and he still producing pretty well. I think you keep a gallon Hansa who's a bigger guy. Anyway, just got skill and kind of like that developed. So I always writes in the market of you know, selling off some of these they'd loved I loved they probably love to trade some of these older guys. They got that are eating up some cap, but I think they're not gonna be moving guys like lacking or Manta unless it's a crazy deals. You need to start keeping the hold a few of these guys to say the Bruins have a big guy with skills Richie so they're oh yeah, of course, so you also there's two other guys that they interest me. There's probably Davidge who's interesting might get dealt. Yep. Once you 5 million, annually, that's palatable. I mean, I think he's afraid but again, you want to avoid these Fringe Chopsticks guys because romance that's the issue you have one with cash or you have one with the Brusque wage and it's like you want to get another one who's going to piss you off by generating a shit ton of scoring chances and not convert any of them. That seems to be the thing with the Bruins but there is a guy who I would love to see the Bruins go after and I think it would be worth it. And it's trying to grow now obviously, but the Flames have been rumored to want to make some changes Monahans probably on the move, but what if they said, you know what we can get more for like gaudreau you're going to get more money off the books with a guy like a dro. Bruins could be a fit. I mean that that's a guy who you have for a long time. You know, he's going to put up points, you know, he's going to put up at least 70 points a year to me. I mean, that's just a braider. You're going to have to give up a lot. Yeah. No that's worth it. But I mean, you know your future I mean, I don't know. I guess it'd be a second line or after Marchand. So maybe it wouldn't be worth it. But if you want somebody to legit score who makes you potentially get past Tampa Bay that might be your guy. Yeah. I mean, he's got the talent. He's got the point production. He solved the issue. He's a good five one five guys. Well it BC guys showing I'm kind of biased and I'm scared. But but you know, I mean, I think you be got it fits just what the contract is and I think there's a lot of you see a lot of concerns for like the Flames wanted to get rid of Euros kind of you know, the concern cuz you here every year that he's just doesn't show up in the postseason which I think he's more or less if I could he's a smaller guy and I think it's your fear the top off is your top-line kind of offensive conduit of course teams are going to put their big bodies on you and try to shut you down. So if he's with Boston, maybe, you know, if he's a second line roll, you're allowed to spread out that often so Bit more and you know, if you're going against Tampa and like McDonald's handling the brochure online that gives you know, krejci and drove times, you know generate some chance as well. So that works in that regard just depends on how long you know how much the assets are you want to give up and I think that's gonna be the biggest, you know, determine if they are that's why I think if you look at maybe gaudreau and if you're already committed to giving up a whole bunch of you know draft capital or prospects are legitimate players, you know guy NHL players anyway, you know getting who drove as opposed to maybe a guy like best sir, I'll marry or a guy like, you know, Nikki dealers over in in Winnipeg. What makes a great player Thirty goal scorer was under contract for a while. So I think maybe if you're willing to give that much money you'll be some of these guys were a little bit younger who were, you know, maybe feel bit more, you know a little bit better about in terms of a long-term building off of like I think we drove is not old right, but I think you look at kind of his age and or or Size more or less and how it fits in maybe you opt to go for another guy a little bit younger with still a very proven track record there. But again, it makes you seem better than a year why you've lost last couple of years has been five and five children. He brings it. I think it's all just depends on what Calgary wants from them. And if they trade Monahan who seems like they will and they get a good return from him for teams need, you know centered Depp then maybe it's enough for them to do. All right. This is our big move we've restocked we've switched things around a little bit and go from there. But you know, if he's going to be out in the market this year, you know, I think the Bruins like most players that are going to get they're going to keep the tires on them. I think to get a kind of like a drug you'd have I think the package base would be a first-round pick Jake debrusk and Johnny Beecher. I think that is like your base off to Calgary and I'm fine with that forgot I could row like that is worth the first that is worth the Brusque that is worth a former first like that to me is is completely worth it off. But as you said you can go out and get a like Palmieri or healers or best sir and give up less and potentially get more for second line scoring. So and also younger which is really took a very much more important, but it's funny, you know the loss of Chicago Fraser for that Connor McDavid or or genotype me Aur Nikita kucherov. Maybe you know, it's a package. You know what the price is going to be. It's like Sydney goes out that on the U should do it, but I don't think it should be some moral satisfaction. Yeah Mac and I'd and third yeah, Nick Ritchie. Yeah, and so I know that would yeah, you know, you gotta give to get in this league. So you gotta be realistic about these trade packages. That's true. So you so okay. So maybe not John more you throw in like heaven Connor Clifton That so so I stopped, Clifton Nick Ritchie help ranjan more to yeah and Jacobs tomorrow and Zach senyshyn to the Edmonton Oilers wage economy David who says? No, I mean I don't think is he can't give up that much. That's too much cap going their way. You gotta go to be smart about this stuff Evan. You're right. You're right. It's too much took take away. We got we got a whole offseason ahead of us. We We can brainstorm these things, you know destroying a missed on this one, but go mornings ago. Maybe we take away John Moore when you get the boards keep table. But so that's that's the problem with people with with on Twitter with trades. They think they can just give up a ton of crap for greatness and it doesn't work. So don't don't come at us with you know, trade-off five piles of garbage for one really nice piece for the mantle so I it's always my favorite to see people go to the ends of the Earth to try to justify why the strip club And I hate trying because what's funny is I guarantee the Bruins to a Charlie Coyle trade in the sense that you're going to go for someone you're not expecting there any facilities not on the trade market there, you know, it's going to be kind of out of the blue, you know, they get like friggin. I don't know some, you know, second line left-winger from the I don't know wasn't even on the market like oh, I mean, I know that guy. Yeah, this is cool. But like I think he was available like Nik Richie we had no idea about Andre Kasha was Nick no idea Charlie called no idea. I don't want to put them in the same sentence, but you know what, I mean, but so it should be very, very trade heavy off season for the league not for the Bruins before the league, but I think most teams realize if the Bruins have the couch in 15 million kind of Brusque signed Grayslake, which I think is very interesting and then you have money so it's going to be very interesting to see them actually make some moves. I'm hoping it's interesting good moves not like Jake Gardiner from the correct. Hands tightened on trade so they the sake of it where you feel like it's going to just you're not be worth. It doesn't move the needle forward for your team. Don't you lateral moves? Don't you don't bring me another Fringe right winger french top-six guy. Don't bring me another, you know, Kasia fine, but ended there. I'm so done with these guys who are you know, Fringe second third line guys, but at any rate, or what would you like to plug Before? I Let You Go. Yeah. I mean we're going to have as we've talked about on this podcast, you know, it's going to be a busy offseason for the Bruins. So this weekend, I broke down some raisins of the Bruins should avoid so I think this week we looking at some guys who may be a worse, you know, shelling out some money too and again and not world-beaters known for tarantulas the world, but if it's you know home either guys put further down on the decor a little bit bigger or maybe guys who fit into more of a third line role. If you think you need more of a proven guy there next to coil. I mean, there's some value to be found in some of those spots off. It will get bad looking at a few of these younger players and how they might fit into the team next year. We looked at Knack of knowing grins look and how they look as a parent. We've kind of sized up in terms of York and what he can bring next year. So we looking back, you know, Galax Tanika got like the bruskin, you know, what what he can bring which I think we've been talking about for a couple of years now as to what his potential is and he's still only twenty-three. So it's not like this is the name is going to be you know, that's the guy who had to give you trade him. It'd better be worth a really good return. He's got all the makings of the guy who buries 32 goals next year and he kicking himself. So we'll we'll take a whole bunch of that stuff over at BSA. So subscribe at Boston Sports Journal com and you can follow me on Twitter at, Ryan. I just go and 93 go to all of that and for CLS media. I miss Mary. See you bobb's Pila stores. Have a great rest of your week.

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184: We're Back After A Week's Vacation To Talk About Recent News Surrounding The Boston Bruins

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184: We're Back After A Week's Vacation To Talk About Recent News Surrounding The Boston Bruins

"Thank you for listening to the black and gold hockey podcast. Please support the show by subscribing to and leaving a 5-star rating for the show on Apple podcast. IHeartRadio on B song Spotify Stitcher in any of your favorite podcasts platforms. You could also support the show by going to our website black and gold hockey where there's always exciting articles by the BMV writing staff. Why are there don't break click on the banner are great sports fan shopping experience to start show. We are off on the short-handed wage rate more home page. off Hey Bruins fans. My caller ID here host of the black and gold hockey podcast. This is episode 184 brought to you by show sponsor betonline.ag. It is June Sunday, June 28th, 2020 and we have some decent list of topics that we're going to cover we dig dig dig for news. We are a podcast that did not go on for fifteen minutes when things are not going on we find it. So with that being said, I need to welcome in my co-host Heather Angus and how about what up? Hello Mark. How was your walk with the dogs this week? It was awesome. I was so pumped to see them. It's been a while. I've been staying away from my dad during the coronavirus will so my father moved to Florida and I caught me and I went to his house because it's a little more it's a better environment for the two dogs and they're both Boston Terriers. They both awesome awesome dog. And I I had a blast but it's good to be home from a Hiatus and getting back to work talking the things that we do best and and that's boss Bruins hockey talk. So how was your week off? I'm sure you were busy busy. Well, yeah. I was just Keep On Truckin, but now I got a week and a half of vacation ourselves. So we'll see what Adventure that brings but hopefully get outside lake or something for a little while. Yes, it's good. I just same old same old, you know things don't change much you suck. It's very good to see that things are sad and open up parks and and lakes and so on but hopefully it's it's in time of of safety because it's it's tough out there right now. So with that being said, let's just jump right into one thing that I do want to cover and it's an unfortunate event that happened on Monday last week off. My dear friend Alicia Adams. I've been friends with her for on Facebook for a long time. I I I want to say it's probably going on eight to nine years died Bruins fan. She lives down in Florida. I believe she is from the New England area, but on Monday her house and took a fire and it burned to the ground but thankfully things were okay with the family. Everybody got out safely. It was just property damage and and so on but it doesn't, you know, it doesn't stop cuz the the aftermath and the thoughts and everything like that just continue. So I wanted to wage we donated as a as the black and gold hockey podcast and website team. We donated some money to her to help out. So and I also just want to say that if you want to help wage This this everyone's family that is a little down right now and and they need a little pick-me-up to get back on their feet. I encourage you to please go to the gofundme.com website and do a web search for Addams Family House fire. If you go on do gofundme.com, you'll see a search page click on that and just type in Addams Family House fire and it will come right up. It's a great picture of the her family and they've they've gotten a well over their their goal so far, but it's still you know, they still need some more help because this is this is just it just it's tragic, you know, I understand it happens and two other people in other families or someone but when it comes to somebody that I know I want to do the best that I can to help out. So and we did that by by donating and and so many other people have donated to which is really good. So if you can please donate to the to her cause her family's cars and and you know help, you know for some better days, so Anyway, yeah, so let's just jump right into some some will sad off on some decent topics just good to go for us and we'll we'll we'll move on to other ones probably the ones that I'm not going to really like towards the end. We do have a hashtag ass PNG that's back. We have five questions from there and not the obviously we got other things to talk about. But anyway, let's talk about recent Boston Bruins Awards Heather. What are we have on tap for that since I've been away. Okay, so I will happen like right after we recorded the last hour recorded So the Bruins give out their internal awards every year. So there's four Awards. I believed vs. So Brandon Carla one the Eddie Shore award, which is given by The Galley God you until everyone who they are. Yeah. Yeah. They are the people up at the top of the balcony off. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, they like the crazy fans that you see in the site. They're kind of like legendary they've transferred from building the you know what I mean and the craziest of the crazy you see up there in the back rows of the balcony, but they give out this award it goes to the person who demonstrates the most hustle and determination throughout the season. So it's little facts about Carlos Torres he at home it was awesome that season but we talked about him all season like this kid is awesome. He's twenty-three years old. He had four goals of 15 assists. So four goals is a career-high for him. I believe this year off and he I thought this was interesting. He's got his nineteen points, which is good. He's growing he was also a third prong time on ice like 20 minutes and 39 seconds. But at 23 is the 8th most veteran page Berlin on the roster, isn't that crazy? Yeah, you hundred ninety seven games and he's been injured a couple of times and if he wasn't think of like he's a truck. I love him. Hey Brandon Carlo glad to still have you birth? Orleans, okay, and then the Elizabeth du fresne trophy which goes to the outstanding performance for a bruin at home. Can you guess who got that? Everyone's probably I read this. I know you posted this but David pastrnak has been pretty awesome just at home. He had 28 games and forty nine points. Jesus passed us having a year of a year twenty-twenty has not stopped in this kid, right? Anyways Marshawn in his drink back Marshawn one the Thursday before that. So sorry Mom. She you don't get to have you actually leads this year. Where am I? So Patrice Bergeron won the John bucyk award. The chief gives that out to the Bruin night most contributes to like Community off the ice, you know, like in their community and as we know Patrice is a saint and walks around with the Halo whether he wants one or not, you know pops her paddle getting all the hospitals and donating to the NC then wacp and the Multicultural ethnic date Quebec or whatever. It was, but he's pretty dead. And but he also gets to donate another thousand dollars from the Bruins alumni. They give it as part of the award to any charity that he wants. I'd also like to say something about the chief John bucyk. He just completed a six-pack second year in the Bruins organization, six feet two years out of the whole history of the Bruins. That's insane. Yeah, it's crazy and and he's he's currently in charge of the Bruins travel office. Make sure everybody's got to get to ticket and welcome them on the plane. I think he's still travels with the team totally not sure about that, but I know that he's in charge of logistics wage. And the last one that they just got here was the 98.5 Sports Hub like to restart that goes to the three people at home the best records or whatever at home and we played games at home before we stopped that's like Baseline but pasternack. Well, that's 28 goals and 21 assists. You had a plus-11. He had a good year, you know know disappearing pasta this year. That's for sure. You avoid took her a spot number to get was fourteen two and six at home with a 215 and a .926 at home pretty good. Well, we also I mean we're not to that don't love the to caress so and Brad Marchand Ingles and 27 assists which he's Brad Marchand. He's a he's a little arrogant but we love him, right? Okay. So more excitingly David pastrnak on the fan vote for best dressed in the NHL. Yeah, it always crazy suits that's fashion fashion. Yeah a fashion is more important. I mean, I'm just saying like there are certain people who set the standard, but he beat out auston Matthews. Yay. And my slightly just like to say his name and who else was the one of the finalists Jack eichel. This is a few people about whatever so I still say Henrik Lundqvist is just the standard for awesomeness, but that being said that's fun cuz pasta and it's crazy suits and whatever else he's doing he's passed he's doing this thing. I love that dude. Okay, so that was the more we just want to talk about money cuz we like talking about how awesome they are. So they're awesome from how they dress to how they help their communities moving on to hockey hockey Hall of Fame inductions. There was a quite an impressive list and and there was some that weren't impressed. I wasn't impressed thoroughly. I think that some players were left off of recognition, but more notably when it comes down to Bruins content. There was one player that was involved in the inductions. I'm sorry. And the yeah, well he's going to be inducted in November. So and that's from the Boston Bruins Jarome Iginla. So what do we talk about the players that were inducted last week? I don't have list of the other ones besides again, like well, Jarome Iginla, he's a headliner, but also Marian Hossa. He's getting his not also a first time. I think it's important to note that their first time ballot and they both got in. We got a couple of old school, but still around guys. We've got Kevin low and Doug Wilson Kevin low, I he was one of the ones with like yes, cuz he's got a million in Stanley Cups is pretty awesome. Whatever Doug Wilson, he's still around. He's a GM and Kim sepia is going in for Canadian. She's a Canadian women's standout knock out and Ken Holland another name that still very influential in the hockey world. He's going in as like a builder of GM. So a pretty good list overall. Yeah, but um, no one's going to like everything right and like you said, there's a few people and yes, I could right now go on my mogilny rant, but let's talk about Jarome Iginla first, right? So, He played for the Bruins just one season, right? We got a little touch of him. He had he played 78 games with us. He had 30 goals and 31 assists. What say you yeah, I mean great careers one year short short time the a lot of people that when I don't remember who wrote the article and I'm sorry, but it was black and gold hockey.com. I shouldn't should have wrote that down but there was a lot of hate from that because they a lot of folks said that he shouldn't have gotten mentioned as a bruin because of what he did previously to come in the Boston and if nobody knows about that right now what he he agreed to a deal to come to our there was a decent place to have him be traded to Boston and it went awry and he ended up going to Pittsburgh and and birth. Fortunately the Boston Bruins swept Pittsburgh that year and Jerome joined the Boston Bruins The Following season for that for that 30-goal season, but anyway wage, but it's it's it's weird the whole thing of the the the trade tree and so on because you if we look above the Steve dangle trade tree that he did with with the Joe thought and thought there was a deal in place and now we know that it was Matt bartkowski Alexander khokhlachev and somebody else. I wish I wrote this down but that was off the principal trade that they were going to get again love but and then they just backed out something happened. He wanted to go to Pittsburgh, but regardless, I don't know what happened cuz it's obviously he's a pretty loyal. I mean near the end. He played for a thousand Seventeen. So he play with Calgary forever. So, you know rookie year, but can we want to talk about how awesome he is sure international players got six Junior games in 36 Senior Games he dead. As he's got ninety-six, he won the World Junior Gold with Team. He's obviously Canadian if anybody doesn't know that he won the World Cup gold and 97.4 Team Canada. He want Olympic gold in two thousand and two he won World golden 2004. He didn't do so hot in 2006, but they won the gold again. And he's the guy who passed Sidney Crosby in 2010 his goal. It was Jarome Iginla who smashed it a he was drafted 11th overall by Dallas. He played with the Flames like we said forever and a day like thirteen years or something before he started bouncing around. He did a little loud in here. He had eighty-one playoff games yet 37 goals and 31 assists in that and I'm still pissed off about two thousand and four. I still feel Calgary got plugged in the Stanley Cup, excuse my language, but I do hope he was an on the all-rookie team. He was three-time All-Star. He won the Rocket Richard three times the Art Ross. He won the Pearson he won the lady. And one that lady King Clancy, he won the foundation players award. He won the Mark Messier leadership award and this I don't think needs to be like a lot of people haven't been thought about it, but it really is a big deal. He's only the fourth black player to be inducted in some capacity into the Hockey Hall of Fame him and Grant fuhr one of his idols growing up where he grew up with, you know was a huge star off and also Angela James and Lily already in there as Builders and whatever but that is a big deal and Jarome iginla's awesome. But Marian hossa's awesome and I think I mean everybody that got in this year's deserves to be in but like I said, okay Alexander mogilny in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, and and it's no hockey. He changed it and it's not showing the down arrow McGinley thing. He still lives in Boston. His boys kids go to Boston Schools. He's coaching I believe or maybe he's not coaching his kid, but he's always at the rink, so it's dead. That he stayed in the area and so on and who knows maybe something down the line will open up for a position with the Boston Bruins being so close to town. So often the thing is is really sucks is that he didn't get that Stanley Cup, you know, and and I think that that's something that well I know for a fact that every player wants wants the ultimate goal, but you know, it's just too bad that a play it with his accolades and all all that he's done for the game couldn't get the Ultimate Prize. But but I mean this is probably second boss asked is is to be noticed and for his accomplishments and hockey on and off the ice with the with the the Hall of Fame induction and and you know, it's really good that that they do something like this and I'm not I'm not completely bought into the whole committee with Lanny McDonald heading the whole thing and so on but, you know, there's a reason there's nothing phone number. Madness I always say but you know, I don't think Ron Wilson, I think that's his name. Did he even win us didn't even win a Stanley Cup am not write down. No one loaded, but He has but Doug Wilson Doug Doug. Sorry I think is more on defense on his defensive thing is more like games played and whatever bowl like he was like again, he was one I was like hmmm, but then you can argue has been impactful but he's going in as a player and not as a GM. So it's like weird to me but the Hockey Hall of Fame standards. We have no idea what the criteria actually is, right? That's why they're like people are mad certain people get in or don't get in or whatever. Like cattle out like yeah again numbers wise but he's got six Stanley Cups, you know what I mean? It's like like I'm glad Jarome Iginla got in in as far as ballot because his numbers he deserves it but also because everyone's oh but they didn't have a Stanley Cup, right like whatever sometimes you don't have to have the Stanley Cup and still have been one of the most impactful players on the sport in your generation are are or whatever and like you said and he's not he's you know, he just retired a couple of years ago. He might go on and be a coach or Geo whatever people build second careers, right? He is pretty awesome. And I'm glad Mary and I got in on the first round to not because he like he had numbers whatever six-time All-Star and all of that. He played in the lot over 1,300 games, but because I think he was very impactful in international. He like he represented Slovakia like fourteen times or something like crazy like that like so for me, I think if it is truly going to be an international and not just revert to its in NHL Hall of Fame. And even though it's not let's pretend it's not it's important. I think people like post and again like get in first ballad not the guys that wait around twenty years to get it because like I said, I mean Kevin Lowe 1000 dynasty of teams and things, you know with the ranges like when you think about waiting I always bring this up. It's like rogie Vachon a form of goaltender long time ago, but I mean the guy retired in the early eighties and he I think it was eight 3 and then he didn't get he had three Stanley Cups and just recently got it in within like the past four or five years. So just crazy how everything is voted on and you know categorized but yeah, well Hall of fame's are weird anyways, because if you let everybody else who might be deserving then it's not special anymore if everybody gets in right? Yeah, but you also have to have flexible like what you you know, I don't know. It's just some years more than others birth. This year I'm not there's no one I can make an argument against either, you know what I mean, but there are a lot of players and I know you can only let so many people in and I have to trust that. I mean, there are people who care truly about hockey and are trying to pick the best six people or five people whatever they end up cuz you don't you don't think there's a limit but I wish we could but yeah, that would be a fun thing to do, you know, like if news is still slow one of these days like who are the four people that you most think should be in the Hall of Fame by are not a bad idea. Not a bad idea. All right. Well anyway is Hall of Fame a Jarome Iginla who I think is awesome. I also was thinking there are times when like Like when Marian Hossa I was looking at as like they were a couple of years. How did when the Thrasher's should have been a good team. They had a lot of good people on their team and they just were still a shitshow. How is that possible right? 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I believe is to get Tori crew locked up long-term this offseason whenever that is air quotes, but Joe wrote an article about if if if if true gets what he wants in money and that might leave somebody out, which I call a cap casualty another are quote and he mentioned to Jacob. Could be that could be that guy. So let me just pull up the article that he has right. Now. This was done on June 24th. And the title Jake debrusk will get paid this offseason and it likely won't be with the Bruins and I did not like that at all. But anyway, he writes after 8 a.m. Postseason after a bit of a Down regular season might slide to brush back into the 4.5 million range per season, but it's expected. He'll be able to command something in that neighborhood after averaging twenty goals per season in the NHL. That's a little bit of high number than I thought. But anyway, he says these these days to process is going to command a big jump in salary to the four point five five point five million range annual value. And he'll he still hasn't quite developed into a consistent productive top six offensive threat on the second line. If there's if there was a time to deal a way to browse in the midst of a salary cap constraints. This would be the time to do it while getting back pretty close to a maximum value for a young still developing player. So that that number we all most Bruins fans know that the culture in Boston is to keep players here keep them happy but to do that and stay competitive as a group of players need to understand that they need some cap flexibility to make improvements when needed in the season, whether it be before month or the beginning of the Season or right before the trade deadline that you need that kind of flexibility to come back if you're going to get a high-profile player a sniper whatever you have to have the birth. The the salary cap, I'm going to say it again flexibility, but I don't see Jake getting that number. I don't I don't know how I feel about this whole this whole topic because the fact is that pasta and that took a took a paycut and he could have gotten a lot more Bergeron and and and so on March and I know this it's different times and everything like that. I think Jake is going to stay but I don't think he's going to get that much. I am still on board with this 18 and ab are quote about 18 million dollars in cap space after they signed jaroslav halak so I could see crew getting the six six point five seven million dollar range beayork getting up too lazy to the Brass getting three possibly four in that range. That's you can still work without those constraints underage. In million, so I think a deal will get done. I don't think we should give up on this kid. He's young. He can play the game. He plays a good girl in style. I know his head in consistencies and so on but for me, I think what happens next is you sign him to a a bridge deal two year three year deal on his first real NHL contract coming off of his entry level deal and then go from there. If you don't if you don't like what you see in that short time frame of that bridge deal then move on a still young enough to go. Oh he can get some some kind of value and so on so, I don't know. I just I think it's weird that everything's being brought up now when we don't know exactly what the Caps going to look like and and how this flat cap is going to pan out for the season next season, or maybe even this season after that. So what are your thoughts on this month? Shenanigan. Well one I take Joe Haggerty at this point with a little bit of grain of salt because you know, there's not a lot to write about if you're a hockey writer right now and it everyone's been talking about obviously we're tight on cap space. I don't think Jake debrusk is going anywhere. I don't think Jake debrusk thinks that he should get paid five million dollars, even if they compared him to Travis konecny, but the thing with him is that he makes a more direct impact on his team. That's why he gets paid a little more where debrusk is developing in a system where there's a whole lot of well-played veteran players and whatever else it bothers me. Jake debrusk is 22 years old. He's not everybody is Sidney Crosby or Tyler Seguin or whoever that by the time they're twenty have already made their money. He's a good player. He had a rough season. Yes, he have to his points or whatever but he's twenty-two if you give him like we were talked about what we think free agents might get butt off like this kid is going to earn some money cuz he has had a lot of experience up, you know, he didn't really he wasn't AHL kid, he came up and it's been struggling his way along a lot. He's getting like three three five, maybe like a 3-year bridgedale again. We've talked about how that way. Everybody can get through whatever the hell the salary caps going to be in a couple of years, like even right now, they're trying to take care of the CBA and everything else and just get it all done with negotiate. How do we fix going forward because we all need to be in this together now Jake debrusk, I think. I think yes on one hand you can look and say there's a lot of other players that can do that like they saying like Nik Richie this and that. Well, I've seen Nick Richie and Nick Ritchie is Young. He's again, I'm not going on him. He's only like 23 or something to but I would rather figure out how to not have that million dollar contract or whatever it is and give that to depressed because he's a kid. I think that loves being a bruin I think his teammates like him, you know what I mean? He's like there quirky little brother, you know? Yeah. He's the class clown right and He's I guess it's weird to say but like his dad was an NHL player and stuff. Right? I don't think Boston's a team. He would have settled on without some influence from Smart hockey Minds around him thinking this is a good place for him his style, you know, like what they see us coaching or whatever. So I do feel dabros cousin and one of his the quote in that article was that I mostly try to stay out of it cuz he was just like how things change and negotiation but mostly try to stay out of it and you know, he's dialing getting ready for training camp in the season and I think that's a good attitude to take because I I mean Jake debrusk a stand know Jake debrusk Thursday, we're near like, oh cost might negotiating. Yeah, this is going to happen. But I agree with you. I think give him a good bridgedale. He he's earned three. If you're going to give your to you have to give depressed 3 just cuz he's got the experience life and he's only been getting paid $850,000 plus, you know, we haven't been paying him a lot of money to do more work than some people making more than him and not just me. I think Hagrid he needs something to write about I think wage. Ellen's freaking out like obviously, you know every day I wake up and I'm like to tour groups do they released our contract because they told us last year that the touring crew deal was all set and they would just wait until release it be at the end of season. Oh, no, it's not happening. I still think we can keep it all if we really want to for the 18 mil cuz we can figure out how to get rid of a little more here and there but no I think Nebraska stay home. I don't think he's going I think it's more of an alarmist kind of thing. It obviously makes sense because you can kind of plug something in there, but I don't again there's a reason that dabros and the one from his draft class that everyone pitches about Is up there and his Compadres are not and that alone gives him free Mill and that's enough to say cuz like you said he's been in a culture. He's 22, but his whole career has been around guys. I don't getting paid their value to have something more valuable a solid team in the potential to win the cup which like you said is the dream like that's the goal. Right? Nobody your goal isn't yeah, you want to make money but little boys don't feel like I can't wait to make lots of money. They're like, oh my God, I can't wait, you know or whatever and I'm sure a little girls dream of it too, but they're just not allowed to win it yet. Yeah, and before we move on to the next topic if I do want to say when you mentioned Torey Krug, it was a rumor last week that he signed a three-year deal and come to find out that that was total hogwash, whoever whoever put that out there. I deleted that tweet, but I'm dealing with on Facebook people calling me a liar because the fact is that they said that they they saw something that he signed and I was like God Oh, no. No, I am no Insider and I'm nowhere near as you know close to the Bruins team as anybody else. But I pay attention quite a bit and Torey Krug. We did not sign. So I'm sorry then if Torey Krug signed there would be a press conference from Don Sweeney. Yeah, you know, like that's what I'm waiting for personally. Like I'm not really unless Torey Krug on his Twitter is like hey guys, I sign off blah blah blah blah blah happy to be a bruin or Don Sweeney or Cam Nealy standing out there. It would be Donnie Sweeney, but maybe he's preoccupied. I don't know, you know, they're trying to restart the league and everything, but we would know like if she would be no secret they'll still happening because signing crew will come everyone down to about what to do about free agency. Cuz right now is the time we all lose our mind about free agency, but we have right now, we're all losing our minds trying to get hockey back. So I'm just trying to re-sign. Yeah, that's not funny. Whoever is putting out false rumors. Yeah. I know it's it's crazy because it's that it made it once people see that they automatically go off. They shoot from the him. It's like oh my God, they finally did it. He's going to be a bruin for a short time. But no, I think that you know in when they said three years now, we remember story crew doing the one year one year one year deals to work with the team and their constraints at the time but I believe Tori crew is is a fantastic defense when you know that I'm pumping gas fires. It's you know, but I don't see him doing a short-term at this particular time in his life. I could see this lady her on when he's more towards 35 and so on short-term deals, but this is something you want to lock up for a five or six or maybe even a seven knows but, you know to stay in Boston, it's just it's crazy. It's crazy talk to to go out there and do that and there was another there was another website person that I am not going to even log Say what website they came from because I can't stand them at all. But one of the people came out and said that Torey Krug signed he has a he has official word that song it, you know broke to him and that was total bullshit. And that was actually dated back to November 2019. This this person said that so it's just complete bullshit when people just throw stuff out there to get get their Twitter collects get some Twitter points and maybe some eyes on four or five articles that they post a year off. This is Tori gross contract to get paid because he one and two-year deal that and then he got a you know, whatever he got his five and now he's twenty-nine years old and he's getting at least a six year deal to ensure that the last giant chunk of his career is locked down, you know, whatever thing he said that that seems ridiculous He's Not Gon no, Callback like he's the one player they have to give the money to why would he decide like even if he's going to take less money? He's not going to take a less term deal know like he might not get 75. Okay, how about 7 for six or seven five or six or whatever, you know, he's going to get at least seven that's going to be the number that somewhere around 7 a little more than that, even though he's worth eight or nine. He is not going to ask you turn off like he would rather be a bruin if that's true, but he has to decide long-term a little bit right? He's got a daughter and family has to think about too like before the kids start school. You gotta know where you're going to be playing for the money. Yeah. I want to start investing and all that but I think that will all work out. But yeah, I don't think the only way he would sign a short-term deal is only cuz of this cap nightmare. No one knows what's going to happen League off for the next couple of years, but I still think that's ridiculous. The one person who's getting not a bridge deal is Tory group cuz there's nowhere to bridge he's twenty-nine years old and he's at the Peak Performance of his career. You know what I mean? Whatever dead. So so moving on to the next topic, which is in the ridiculous was the key word here Jack eichel trade rumors continued. This is maddening to make sure absolutely maddening now. Listen I get I do get where everybody's coming from. He is an Elite Talent. The guy can put up points. There is no doubt about that. People are just use that narrative and Target. One thing in his point production is it there's other avenues you have to discuss about this number one. This is something that the Bruins do not allow in their culture. You do not speak to the media like that that anything that you have if you're not happy you talk to your general manager the revolving door of Buffalo general managers that are going on right now in that shitshow that's going on up. There is you don't do that to the media do it when you leave do it when you get traded whatever but don't do that because it makes you look like a dick in front of a team. And I'm sorry. This is I get the point production narrative. I just really really do but it's it's the it's the the inner workings of that locker room off and on the ice and so on when you look at character, I don't see that happening. I don't see character in Jack eichel coming to Boston. Not only that dead. It says ten million dollar cap hit that it does not make sense to work, especially when it's flat and it could be flat for the next couple of Seasons. I just don't see it happen. I don't want to give up assets for somebody who will probably be like Oh, I'm in Boston. I'm in my home state again. I'm so happy and then all of a sudden if the Bruins don't like make the playoffs for a year and he started whining and bitching. I'm not for that. I'm not for giving up all these young assets that Buffalo is going to want for this player. There's no way I'm sorry. I can't do it and off and I've gotten trashed on Twitter for saying it's not a good deal cancer in the locker room shouldn't happen. And you know so many people are saying don't worry about what he does on and off the ice worry about the point production that you can possibly do in a Bruins uniform and and where you can go from there, but there's so many other things you have to think about when you talk about a deal like this it juice. It just it baffles me. It really does. Okay, so one I think the rumors are batshit crazy and for me, it's the ten million dollar contract, but I would like to say in Jack eichel's defense dead. He's a new generation of player. He is not the generation. I'm sorry, but Buffalo is a fucking shit show excuse my language, but they are in someone maybe it's not he's a cancer of the locker room. Maybe he's fucking sick and tired and he's standing up for his team and the fans of this team. Maybe it's that maybe he's not asking to be out of there. He signed it he knew it was a shitshow when he signed right beside get people around him, excuse my language, but now that there are vets more veteran players coming in like when Jeff Skinner came in and stuff. I mean again everyone expects these young kids to just know how to lead teams into whatever he's supposed to be the same behavior of the Buffalo Sabres. So maybe it's not he's being like an overpaid jerk. Maybe it's that he's like enough is enough doing this fanbase in the city deserve more than this. They have one Pham. That is making two fanbases miserable. Although my bills are families were a little happier now, but until like two seasons ago, we were not you know what I mean? Like maybe that's it. Maybe Jack I go because he is in the generation that does have Twitter and a microphone and a mouth maybe that gets your attention when your star players like, you know, I'm sick of it, you know, maybe it's not saying you sick of being a sabre or whatever, you know, like you don't sign a long-term deal in a city that's miserable and you don't like or care about the environment especially like I mean Buffalo is a working-class town. It's not Vegas since it doesn't have all the bells and whistles. Some of the other cities have so much to say in defense of Jack eichel. Maybe that's the situation. I don't know because if it's as bad as we can see I can't imagine what it's really like that. Do. You know what I mean? What deal on both counts by all accounts I go the team they love the coach and they let you know what I mean or whatever just they like that new environment, but it's like now this team is trying to become a teen and their birth. Running into management acting up the process like, you know what I mean? And like you said, it's been a revolving door. How do you get anything solid if it's always revolving you always changing the people who are making the decisions you get all the players and the coaches can do is show up and play and you know, try to coach your team, but that can't be a comfortable place to place. So I'm just saying I don't know what to be true. You could be being a dick or he could just be saying you know what? Hey, I'm Jack it'd be like a you know, whatever like had wouldn't Tom Brady has stood up and said like what is this should like he's you know, like you have a voice a voice that all the fans and not just walk, you know damn from Buffalo whatever I can go off on a tangent but like, okay, so oh there's a crazy fan. Well now you're talking about a league Superstar your Superstar saying enough is enough, but that's just that's just me. So maybe it's just he is from forty, you know, like a 40-minute ride down 495 from us. Maybe it's cuz he's a whatever but I do think that you want these kids to lead this Jeff. Patients got to figure out how to lead in the world of Twitter and face any or whatever like no longer do they throw punches with their GM's and managers when they get into fights. They don't do that anymore. What they do is when they have everyone's attention, they simply say cuz if you watch him in his rant, it's not like he's like, I've certainly heard NBA star's trash their teams more openly just in a nonchalant way like he more I think is just frustrated as long as a young man does not quite know how to maintain the composure of the face of the team and be as mad as everyone else says or about the team that just me but the back cracked crazy of the whole thing is we cannot afford we juice out here and I will hold discussion about 40 Krug and Jake debrusk and we didn't even get into glitches Andrews Bjork and you can go on we have 18 mil that might be tight enough to keep all the boys if we want. We cannot afford Jack eichel. He's awesome. I mean sure he probably come in and fit in the culture you grew up in the culture of this. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, it's just me. So for me, it's just I'm glad to see that internal especially if you want to get moved. It just doesn't send a good message to another team that it wants to take you on and it has availability to take that cap space on. I don't know how long as a player. You have a built-in resume what you do on and off the ice is going to be scrutinized and for me, that's just not that's not a good deal. And that's just my opinion. I'm not saying it's wrong but there's no right or wrong answer. I'm not saying your opinions wrong, but I also think some of these Superstars like, yes, they have their resume, but some of their resumes would be so much more brilliant if they weren't because of the way we do offer draft now, Aren't stuck on abyss of teams of shittiness. You know what I mean? Like first Taylor Hall had it in Edmonton and it was like this kid is literally isolated and they did nothing to help that situation and then eventually they got McDavid and even he had a few they used car note David but his numbers are like that because he's Connor McDavid if he was like a jack eichel. His numbers wouldn't have been as good. You know, I also don't know how long a leak and ask their Superstar. They're young superstars to keep their mouths shut and always be old school hockey quiet on the none of that either like or even just a struggle and like just oh thought my life. I'm supposed to take my ten million just be happy. Well, you know what money doesn't buy everything if you're this is a kid who wants to win the Stanley Cup someday and that he wants maybe some help to do that. Like he can't no matter how good numbers are he can't do it by himself, you know? Yeah, absolutely and speaking of help. Nobody needs more help than big fat guys like me and especially from a a web page. Known New England company located right here in Massachusetts right other. Yes, we're talking about awaken 180, which is awesome. So when most people try and think about losing weight, they think exercise I think exercise but most people don't actually start exercising. Let's be real. 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And um, but also it they're good at what they do and trying to help people reach their weight-loss goals. All right. So here we go. Here we go. We go. All right. Here's the thing the NHL on Friday night at 8 p.m. Held the NHL 2020 NHL draft lottery now very interesting the way that everything is going on with coronavirus oil and blah blah blah and the season not not anything appropriately and the 2014 playoff that all plays huge Parts in this number one is the faithful listeners. Listen to us a rambling rant all every week. They know that I am not a fan of having the draft done before the playoffs. I just don't get it. Then me the playoffs us off. To be that time to figure out the latter part of the rankings for your draft. So with everything that went on the the the the the lottery went down and it immediately started. I was just like wait a minute the nineteen was not mentioned because of something this some kind of shift that went on home. So, I mean, there's so many percentage of every team that gets that's involved. Now one thing that got me all worked up was at the end so, I don't know exactly it was the number one pick. So the number one pick for possibly Alexa LaFreniere is to be determined off and it's going to be determined by a team that's in the play in session. So we have Several teams that have an opportunity to get of number one pick in the playoffs. I don't get it. I'm dumbfounded. Maybe I'm not very smart person has is I get it but you know what? This does not make sense to me at all. You had you had it? Why why? All right so long you could have a team like Pittsburgh Penguins, and they I think they're matched up against Montreal Canadiens. So like one of those two teams could get the first round pick, but they were involved in the playoffs. I I that's what I don't get is like first round picks selections are not teams that are involved in the playoffs. So what you're doing is you're compromising the Integrity of the truck in game. I don't get that. I I don't get it. Hello. Is there anything that you could say to possibly Get me on the straight and narrow and figure out what is going on with this league and what they're trying to do. I know what to say. There's a speed bump and what's going on with covid-19 and everything that's in there rushing off. I still think they could have done this in the fall after everything but regardless it's like what the fuck is going on. I wish I could talk you off that ledge, but I'm kind of standing there not looking down cuz I'm afraid of heights but going first of all, why do we need to like, okay, we're in a draft lottery that has two phases of the draft lottery Has Two Faces. I don't think you know cuz they expanded the draft lottery. It's usually five teams or whatever. So they expanded the draft lottery and they expanded the playoffs and I think if they expand the playoffs the draft lottery should only consisted of the 16s that didn't make the playoffs. Just saying cuz everyone else now has a chance to potentially win the Stanley Cup and it's like the stupid like just when I thought they were doing the right things. Is this stupid convoluted bucket know like how can someone who literally has a chance like that's this is the thing of why they didn't call them play off their play in because they have to satisfy contractually off trades that happened things like, you know Hall going to Arizona shit like that J team conditional fix all these conditional things that have all these stupid legal rules, which are going to be easier to make a strong draft a lot out. But the thing that pisses me off the most is I don't think I don't care if you lose the play and you shouldn't be in the draft lateral. And you have that that's the number one stupid thing. So now with someone who actually gets to have three more their team on T, maybe sell more t-shirts, whatever obviously you can't sell tickets or whatever kind of thing but like attention on them. Or going to also get the number one pick the fact that you're one of the 2014 shows you do not need to be get in the running for the number one pick your mediocre enough and it wouldn't piss me off so bad, but the way is going the way they pick the teams. They're like some of those people wouldn't have made the playoffs. Anyways, you know what? I mean? Some of them might have still had like point-wise but most of those teams would have made the playoffs. Anyways, if it was a normal 16 schedule so long, why are you letting them play either let them be in one or the other because Detroit is still fucked in can't be more than fourth. I think they took a pinch flap on this one second phase in which after we see who was still sucky enough to not play in the actual playoffs, right? They get the number one pick or whatever. They set the first three picks them then they have set everything else according to you know, whatever like ottawa's two first-round whatever but like they said everything else two points during the season. So that means someone whom I should be picking 16th. This year is going to maybe pick number one that is ridiculous. So stupid. I just made it more complicated job. I needed to be you know what I mean? Like the compromise should have been you keep the five teams or maybe the 16s that didn't make the playoffs. Let them do the top six draft picks as wage should or Then give the teams that didn't make the playoffs those 8 people the next eight seeds fucking draft them by themselves into those seeds then put everybody else who doesn't totally suck. Sorry. I just think it's stupid like so now you're telling me I'd also like to see how it lines up. If you just did it the old way they used to do it. Like they should like the reverse order like your the suckiest Detroit. So you get the number one pet cuz you deserve it for being the suckiest and that's the other thing NHL the Detroit Red Wings original sex quote unquote. You know what I mean? One of your most storied franchise got 39 points this season 39 points through 70 games 39 points in the time I said that there is a roller hockey league somewhere else. Just scored thirty nine points. I'm just they want thirty nine games that time you can't watch a tree fall off a cliff like Buffalo going off a cliff as one shitshow to handle again. Like we said, they're rabid fans around they're super hockey just Like bands but the Detroit Red Wings cannot struggle and you just set them up to continue to struggle by not letting them get them not saying they would have got the number one pick. I just think it's asinine that off a team in these plans is the number one packet stupid high. So listen to this I pulled up this tweet, right and it's and it's a three-part tweet that I took a screenshot wage. And this is a it's a guy is named Dwayne and that's all I'm going to say. I'm not going to say his handle because he's not worth it. But this is just like you could still he's not a hockey fan. So anyway, he says in the first one, how can the NHL continue to be the joke of North American Sports? Oh, I know. Let's have a shitshow of a draft watery that makes no sense way to drop the ball when no other sports have anything going on at the current moment in big capital letters epic fail the second tweet. He sends which was 6 minutes later. #NHL how embarrassed that you guys today complete shitshow last night. You will never be taken serious as a North American sport the third one, which is obviously the next day the NHL can't get it right. There's a reason NASCAR is more popular than them shame on the NHL and what the the other embarrassment last night with the lottery so definitely not a t hockey fan there. I can't see that being a huge fan at all. I'm frustrated but I'm not frustrated to take my favorite sport and say it's the it's the absolute worst in North America. Sorry pal. I also had written down cuz I had a nap or whatever and has been Nation. She had written like, you know a summary whatever draft law to like her article and one of the things that image that according to Elliott Friedman and Bob McKenzie, if the qualifying round doesn't happen, then the 18s in the lotto will be that's right. Now. I don't know if they truly did confirm that or not but I don't see why SB Nation would have them saying they confirmed it. I mean that's an obvious thing but there is actually a mechanism in case the play Ends don't happen in case like covid-19 just go straight to the you know what I mean. I just I guess going to take the four top teams and let them play it out in a short and Stanley Cup. I don't know. Let's say the 18 is going to be Montreal Chicago, Arizona, Minnesota Winnipeg Rangers, Florida foundas, at least half of them don't deserve to be the number one pick. Absolutely. Like how is that possible? So if there isn't they automatically get to be in for that spot, you're not going to suck. You to me that the Columbus Blue Jackets eat a higher pick than the Detroit Red Wings. I'm just saying and then the senators get like to pick sand first round cuz that's the whole thing is is this first round that's already got everyone losing their jobs because it's stupid then the second stage. So you got the 17s. That didn't make the playoffs, right? We already did that Draft Lottery Plus one team that is in the planes, right? We don't know who it is. TV. Once they don't make it out, we figure out who gets that spot. Right? One of them will get that spot because of Friday. It's stupid with like 12% They each have an equal chance of getting it or something stupid like that off. Once they have the top three picks then they're going to do everyone else in order a point percentage, right? So in other words, like we said Detroit's block their number for no matter what because they can't move up cuz you can be you know, whatever so they're they're stuck where they that's nice. That's nice for Detroit. But if they can't be completed. There's this mechanism that says these are the eight teams that get to buy for the spot. Someone thought up this crazy convoluted plan because that's how if they do that off then write billing else can and then there's all these crazy things like right now only the seven teams like bottom 17s can do any trades. Everyone else has got to wait. And we got all these stupid trades from February that have to be satisfied in holy crap. What is going on? I'm sorry. I can't so I can't wait to see how stupid it is come phase two of this draft, see if they even play in but you're not going to argue to me that the Columbus Blue Jackets should be buying for the number one spot of drafting. I totally agree with that. That's just that's crazy. I did see those numbers off. By the way. There was a tweet that came out that had all the you know, if if things don't work out the way they're supposed to be then those certain teams will be involved in that in that certain mechanisms talking about but you want to take a break sure if you want. We'll see let's take a quick break. We're going to hear from the angry. I know I know I know how long we're gonna take a quick break. We're going to hear from the great Folks at the store next door. It's a Yarmouth Nova Scotia based company and we at the black and gold hockey podcast wage. I can go hockey.com. We purchased four items from them this past week when I was on vacation with the doggies. 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So as of right now There Were Ten teams, as I said, there was Los Angeles Las Vegas Minneapolis Chicago, Dallas Pittsburgh, Columbus Vancouver Edmonton in Toronto. Now off the teams that are gone off that list now for the Hub cities are Minneapolis Dallas Columbus Pittsburg, and now which came out not too long ago Vancouver off. So the the team that the areas that are still involved are Vegas La Edmonton Toronto and Chicago. Honestly thought I'd see Chicago happening. I don't see La happening possibly see Edmonton happening. But as of right now are to what do you think of the are too I'm going to log Vegas and Toronto thoughts on that. I think that we should just stop pretending it's not going to be Vegas and Toronto. That's what I think. I think that that's probably been what the issue was the whole time. You got Vegas for the gambling odds, and also obviously just capacity like they can just kind of quarantine off a block and let it be the NHL or whatever Los Angeles to be out cuz California's numbers are spiking for covid-19 going to want to walk into that Chicago we talked before I thought wouldn't be a spot. Anyways, just cuz Chicago is like seven million people or whatever four million people just crammed into a big space but not really when it comes to urban sprawl. It's one of the biggest cities in the country in America. And yeah, so also I just think stop pretending that it's not going in Toronto it does it make sense. Yes. She gets you betting and all your thing. That being said, I think if I get to the be quarantined and whatever that means in Vegas club And then on the other teams and I'm quarantined and Edmonton. I'm going to be pissed. I wasn't at least in Toronto for like things that maybe potential Recreation and whatever. I'm just saying Edmonton's lovely but God there's things to do but I just mean like it's not as many things to do as you would in a bigger Metropolitan kind of setting, you know, like I don't know like I'm not trying to disrespect it. Which and it's lovely Alberta Canada. I love you guys like yeah. I just I don't know. I just it's a hard one, but I think that's where we're going to settle. The only thing with Vegas is I don't know how they're going to change the practice facility like Where Toronto there's lots of drinks all around that you can figure out how to transport. You know what I mean? I don't know if Vegas has that where Edmonton would be in Vegas has a ring inside their Arena and I get that but we're talking about twenty four teams. You're going to probably need a little bit of yard. I mean, yeah, even though the places they're playing are going to be these two places. There's obviously going to probably be other facilities that have been designated for the NHL for sure sure. No, absolutely. I mean and everything in between you're going to have to have a little more space but that just need I think we're still pretending it's not going to be Vegas in Toronto and can we just announced that so I can move on and not worry about that just like Seattle's getting closer to a nickname great, maybe cuz they would have announced it out the draft but then the drafts on a stupid thank God they didn't do it. Well, they at least in the regular draft at least Seattle got a a new name for their Arena. Yeah. I know that came. I'm glad that chugging along. I'm just saying these are the things Jim. Now that I would be worrying about okay, like regular draft and then they like just like Vegas did they're going to know they're not it's never going to happen. None of those hockey stuff is ever going to happen. They're just going to drive me nuts. Now one thing one thing that concerns me about these Hub cities and and and getting crossed off the list as we go along and getting closer to July 10th. The training camps, which we're off subject it to be a a time frame is is is a Twitter conversation. I had with a friend Ridge Reggie Shuffle I Schofield Schofield whatever and he actually mentioned something very interesting that the health officials in Vancouver potentially did not like what I'm sorry. Let me word that found the NHL didn't like what the Vancouver or BC officials Had to say to the NHL if a few things spikes as a hub City and I he seems to believe that the NHL was like, you know, what forget it was going to cross you off the list and just move on because you know, there's a that's a little concern for me if the health officials are like listen, what are we going to do? If there's an outbreak, you know, I just going to move a Hub City to another place at those Logistics take way too much time, but it's it makes me kind of I don't know what it is, but it's almost like the NHL needs to pay more attention and be more cautious about what's going on because if a Hub City that was like really pushing forward a setting standards for health and safety and wage not driving then would it makes you think it's going to work anywhere else? I think the thing though is that partly and that's what I was reading is that they're very very stringent in BC and I'm Not Dead they're not in other provinces, but almost like not too certain. I mean the NHL is only one organization. I mean, you can't also reach kind of in reachable goals, you know what I mean, either for like standing, you know what I mean? Cuz it off by all accounts. They're using the NHL it does have health officials that are helping them decide what to do the it's hard to say because they still officially haven't signed the come back on track. Yeah. I mean like agreement or whatever training camp start on the 10th, but we don't really know if that means they want them to start moving towards the Hub cities yet. It's obviously assuming it's probably just in their own facilities training camps for at least a week or two, you know what I mean? Like that part hasn't been worked out not just as they don't know where it is, but because I think it is the will like we talked about the turtle steps make sure that cuz once you start you can't let the fucking snakes back in the can you know, like right figure out how maybe they'd stop speaking out but you can squish it back down and I know we're going to talk about that job. Or whatever but some interesting things about that about them what quarantined exactly May mean, but again, none of it has hashed out but I do think though as an organization the NHC only do so much and they also have needs that they have to have not. Do you know what I mean? And if Vegas says hey, you know, as long as you keep everyone here, we don't mind you have these five hundred people or whatever walking around. And you can meet the basic criteria, but we don't I don't know that they're not asking above and beyond what any other reasonable request is for a situation like that at either so the NHL package over like if they can't afford to do some like it said one city says if you test a player's every three days or whatever you test them daily the first two weeks that they're in the hubs and then a test them every third day why they're in the playoffs, right? Cuz after two weeks, you'll pretty much know if anyone's going to come out with a no break. That might be something that is more affordable than we don't know Vancouver isn't saying you have to test every day the whole time whatever, you know what I mean? So those are the factors. I think we just don't know about as like business standpoint when you're in a group you mean they just lost a billion dollars in Revenue like like historic with and they already paid their players. It's not like they're even though yes Collective like they've got billions of ridiculous dollars to play with let's face it as the NHL the owners aren't going to all of a sudden be like, all right, I'll cough up an extra five hundred million dollars, even though some of them could I'm looking at you Jeremy Davison. Yeah. And another thing that is frustrating hockey fans in general is his the locations obviously. I know we talked about this a while back wage, you know, if it is coming down to a Vegas and Toronto there are fans saying that of course, you're going to put it in Toronto because the legal office is their job Or the or some of their offices are there the legal office is technically in New York. But the narrative is of course, you're going to have it in Toronto because Toronto is involved in a 2014 off and you know, that's that's favoritism blah blah blah, but when I'm hearing is and maybe people can clarify that you can add me at black and gold 277 and let me know if I'm wrong. But the West Coast teams are going to be would go to the east so they would go in Toronto while a team like the Bruins would go to Las Vegas. That's what I'm hearing. So there's no home ICE Advantage, even though you know what I mean, there's not in reality. It's not there but you know, cuz they're going to do a mismatch home, you know, I can't even talk about they're doing their best to make sure you're not familiar with so like the east teams aren't playing in the East facilities because they are all more familiar with those whether you're the home team or you're a visiting team obviously dead. The Bruins are going to be more familiar with Madison Square Garden, then they're going to be the Staple Center in L A or whatever, you know sure so that's the that's what they've said the whole time that they're going to try to vice versa. Ultimately. They've got to put them in one place. If you're going to play for a cop, you know what I mean? So I would think that there's only like in my head there's going to be two Hub cities for the planes in the first round and then everyone's getting corner of Vegas does the NHL can control moving the players specifically from the hotels on two jetted airplanes that they rented and have been hosed down directly to the airport and picked up directly on the other side to where other teams have already cleared any medical whatever issues that might be happening. I just I thought I don't know that makes sense. Also, that's weird thing is the boys didn't get off this weekend with the award shows this year. They may even do the award shows in September when the Stanley Cup gets awarded or whatever or October whenever it happens again. We don't know the actual timeline but wage. That just my thought in the Toronto with illegal opposite thing. I do think that's true. But I do think in some way they have to satisfy the Canadian fan base and have one of the Cities if possible be in Canada. I'm sick of the home field advantage thing because one is there's nowhere to wait for they they've all played in these facilities. Everyone has played there like it's not like they don't know and no one is talking about totally neutral sites like some random place in Nova Scotia ago, or you know in the middle of Colorado somewhere not near you know what I mean? I just know I get it and and dovetail on that we have to talk about something that I found very interesting and that's NHL Chief legal officer Bill Daley who serves under League commissioner Gary Bettman from The Burbs teams, which may not be operating in quarantine bubbles. That is a little bit of a concern for me when you're trying to keep everybody safe moving forward but in an article on Sportsnet. CA on June 26th 2020 Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly confirmed Thursday that the league and the nhlpa will not consider are not considering important team quarantine bubbles for those mandatory sessions instead players are being instructed to stay home. When not at the rink with the hope that frequent testing and health protocols will prevent any outbreak before hopefully games resume into Hub cities in Late. July Bruins. Defenseman. Matt grzelcyk had this to say in the Sports Net on a little it's definitely eye-opening to hear but at the same time looking back going into it you certainly expect that to pop up Grizzly also said you'll see more and more cases popping up across the league and that has to be expected as well. But at the same time it's a little nerve-wracking. So I totally agree on that with what Mister Matt grzelcyk said, so, I don't know. I just don't see any easy path to get this done as much as I want to get it done cuz I'm a hockey back. I mean, it's it's my inner child. That's just like it's almost like Christmas and I wanted to return but I'm also like every day that we progressively moving forward page talks and in our weekly podcast. I'm getting just a little more concerned about the numbers and how everything's spiking up again second wave talk. It's just I mean, it's just it's maddening. I just wanted to happen. I want Corona field to be over. I'm tired of it. I want to go back to regular life. And so it's just it's just crazy. My thing I think it's interesting that they're not quarantining them and even if like in Bill Daley was saying it's like even when they're in the hub cities, they're not going to quarantine like it seems like before they were going to quarantine each team separately from all the other teams, but that does kind of seem a little crazy like to be able to control that, you know, they are grown adults, you know, but it sounds like more they're going to quarantine them in Vegas together. So that's kind of cool to me because in case you maybe make a choice as you are family or whatever that you can't you choose not to quarantine if that's allowed to gather in the city and maybe you just stay home and sometimes you know, when your husband's a professional athlete there on the road kind of situation sucks cuz it'll be like whatever at a time but that allows them. I think I think I think it'll leave a lot of anxiety amongst players because they'll be able to be with their friends and their support net off. So I can a little more normalcy for going about your business in a weird-ass world where you put twenty four teams in two cities and make them whatever that I like Jason's birthday cuz there's been eleven players that have tested positive. We know five of them were on Tampa Bay cuz they had closed their facilities. I jokingly said if Tampa Bay and who was it if Tampa Bay and Montreal can't be in can I vote Buffalo n or something like that might have been a Canadian but we know one of our players did we know a Pittsburgh player at least as so there's been eleven players, but that's out of 200 players. So so far those numbers are pretty good that only eleven players and all of them seem to have been asymptomatic. You know what I mean, which more research is showing is probably not the most like you're probably not going to pass it on that way obviously in sports and especially something like hockey which if anyone's ever been in the hockey room and if you listening to walk around, it's the most disgusting like bacteria Galore right as long as we keep the Cove it. That's the most important thing. We just don't need the Cove it in we can have all the other Funk that goes along with team sports and sweating in small spaces. But I do like that that seems like they'll have a little freedom to and it's not just like wage go to dinner or go to your whole, you know, you can we've already had four months of watching Netflix. I don't think people can handle it anymore, you know, but I do I feel like Jason spezza only he was a quoted a logged in that Sports an article and he's been one of the leading players involved in this restart program, but he had a couple of quotes but I liked this one. I like them just from a player like cuz we're always worried about what the owners and stuff are doing but the players and stuff have said, you know is everything around us starts opening up. We almost have to tighten up like how like he was talking about players, you know, we're going back to play and we have to probably be a little more careful as we get close to the training camp and he was talking about how it's a certain kind of discipline that the players are going to have to make sure that they instill in themselves. Help not have all brakes and not you know what? I mean, like everyone you see as of the player kind of one of the player reps. He seems very confident that the NHL is doing the right things to make sure staff, you know, like they truly mean it when they say the health is the most important thing everything else is going to come after it, you know, so that's good. So for once in the world the NHL and the Players Association are on the same page, maybe not on this draft model that happened on Friday probably after that. I think I think it's going to be on I just think you have to take it a step out of time. What are you going to do? You gotta watch for outbreaks. I agree with you. The numbers are spiking. I think that's part of what they're thinking if they can get them in before if a second wave or whatever. We don't know. It's all speculation at this point, right? I think at this point the world can agree to just kind of go with the flow in 2020 cuz God knows what will happen next right? So hopefully we won't get a major second Spike. You know what I mean? Maybe now that we're all in a boat if there are going to be some flare-ups. They'll be more here herd immunity that starts happening we can all get through it. But God they need to fix it. He's the long run issue as they need to pick cities that fit all their criteria training facilities Recreation Hotel capacity blah blah blah blah blah blah. They have to be willing to do whatever they can for the health and that seems like that's what they are, you know, making sure people attack and Bill Daily in the Players Association seem to be agreeing on things. So that's good. I just feel like if it off Happened. It's not going to be because everyone like unlike baseball which is happening. Like it's not going to be because it was pissing contest back and forth over stupid shit. It's going to be because there was a Health crisis and they couldn't do it, you know, not because everybody involved wasn't on board for getting on board. That smile and all right. All right, let's move on to hashtag. Ask BNG questions. We have five of them. Let me get my phone ready for the god fourth one which comes from a very valued team member a new guy. So I will T that up right now, but will it start off with you? I want to say this guy is from Finland and I appreciate you listening and and and being a part of this but his name is you so cackle cackle. Oh, wow, Cafe. Berlin. You could follow him at j u s p. Uh, he asks which player would you take for a season 20 21 Krug at 8 million dollars or dabros get five hands down Tory group. Yeah, I mean if you just I mean you saw if you just asking just personal opinion on how money works and and the priority of Team moving forward. You need that sixty seventy Point defenseman in Tori crew the bumper guy and the power play. His Mobility is just it's it's it literally is superior officer. And I think that at that point in just per question, I think that dabrowska be the one to go at 5 because that's just I think that's too high for me. But that's just that's just me but I'd go crew. Oh, yeah all day long I would get Torey Krug eight million and not keep debrusk and I love Jake debrusk. I do think he's valuable as we've already talked about earlier the show. Thank you for your question URL and ya Torey Krug 8 mil on the top defenseman in the league all around 4.40 whatever and sometimes it really a bad ass on his own home back in June. Self exactly and Bruins man and Twitter at Bruins man one Lancer Lancelot. My boy always always happy to give us some questions and I love it. But he says ask. What do you think of Corelli playing on the wing on coils line? I am a huge fan of this. I saw some really good things with karali on the left side and coil in the middle. And even Buick on the right side. I thought that was a fantastic line. It wasn't quite the boiling line that I used to love. But it I saw something in Corelli's game that moved him to a Next Level and obviously it's moving up from the 4th to the 3rd, but I just think his responsibilities increased a little bit with having a pot possession math to like coil and I think it really added a speed Factor when you have coil. That is a pig. Bass player but more of in the traditional transitional type of freaking for would possession. Like I said and and have those guys on the Wings off so much faster to move up thought. It was a good line. Hopefully it sticks around. I'm a huge fan of Corelli. He had a really really tough season this past year, but I don't know I kind of did like that like to see a little more of a coil. I am in favor of anything that helps Sean kuraly be Sean kuraly again, you know what I mean? So he just he had a hard time getting a spark this year. I mean and I don't think from lack of effort and I think he just was struggling and sometimes that happens. So yeah, I mean, whatever Charlie off of the Beast he makes a lot of you know, he's like Bergeron he makes the people around him look good again. I don't need him on my second line or whatever anything crazy like that, but I just think that would maybe at least give him Corelli a different. Look he's not like he's always had to drive the 4th Line, you know, like that's been his role and maybe he doesn't need to be The Driver of the game and he needs to just be able to sit back and kind of do the little things are dirty last two lines always do the next question is from Bruins man at Berlin's man one again. Thank you so much. That's hashtag ask 31. Will Andre Kasha be a factor when the boys start back up. All right. Thank so. I hope so long as we still adjust cuz we didn't play for 4 months doesn't mean we still don't need a second line right wing. I'm hoping there's a little check out Licious things that's happening over here. And that should just relax and like have fun like Jenna mean he's young and he like went to him and krejci a clicking. It's awesome. And I'm hoping like finally, maybe they found the person to finish the triangle like your name. Like and help it so everyone's usually cuz we again like we there's a lot of reasons why we lost the Cup last year, but one of them primarily is if the top three aren't in the Top Line isn't scoring like it's a struggle to find solid secondary consistent scoring on any line, you know what I mean really bad times where certain lines. Okay, cool, like whatever but like consistently, that's awesome. As we are as a team. It is amazing because we've never we've always had the whole there. So I don't know so he be over there, but that's the point. Yes. I I I don't know if he would be because I don't know enough about casha. I what I've seen of him. I think he is a good fit for that line and You know his skill-set, you know, I just hope he stays healthy. It's got a history of concussion and hopefully helps drive it a little bit. You know what I mean and puts a little spark in it. I didn't see much of cascia. You know, I think that he was more of an a transitional period coming from the docs over the Bruins getting in the lineup. I know he was a little banged up before which he didn't get into the into the early games when he when the trade was happening. I know he was I think it was a shoulder injury. I'm not show up body. Let's just put it that way but maybe with all this rest I mean and and and working out getting to know some of the players. I know you not be able to work on chemistry via sewage room conference calls, but once you get back on there, I think the he'll be a little more healthier to move forward. I just really hope that this is the answer to that right that right-wing dead. Scenario, but if if he's not the answer then you know and he needs a little kick in the ass and and watch from level nine or whatever level in the in the fifties maybe a black case could go up and and and kind of you know, see what happens. But I really think that the I really think that the the Bruins are going to rely on who got them the hundred points season and not rely on black cases, but you know the better the better players are going to play so, we'll see what happens. Sorry. I was going to say I don't think Kasia will be on the night before he might not stay on the second line. Like they might move things around coil might end up there on the 2nd line with them off. Yes, obviously the I know you don't want I know you hate. What I'm saying is or you could you know, whatever move Jake debrusk or what you can move people around. Like you said the people who have at least been in the lineup dead. Mostly all season or whatever, but I do think that we traded for him for a reason because Sweeney and them see something Cassie. I don't know whoever has you know, puts their input on it. Something in his skill-set is good for the bees or we wouldn't have purposely gone and got him at the trade deadline. He was injured when he showed up. He was still coming off. He had been you know a little that. He only had a couple of games and just back from injury since early February and we shut down on March 10th. So like you said, we only got like two games in okay, but if we're going to talk about Nick Ritchie being in there over debrusk, you know, like for futures contracts, then we're going to talk about cautious going to be somewhere in the Bruins 12 for words that are consistently on the ice and some capacity. All right. So moving to the next hashtag s p n g. This is from Cameron young you could follow him at I don't see it on the screen shot, but I think it seemed money five and he's a our new YouTuber black and gold hockey.com website and podcast. So he does a tremendous work on videos and Analysis and he's going to continue to do that recently graduated from UNH. I know his birth. There and got him involved. So he's doing a good job so far, but he asked do you think there will be any players that surprised their way onto the playoffs rosney and contribute instead of just being a black case I go back to like what we just said about the Kasha and and his replacement. The very well could be may be the the rest was was too much for a certain player and I'm not saying it could you know put somebody on a certain level in an arena for a long period of time during this this 2014 playoff, but it might be a game here and there that somebody needs a spark. But again, I think I'm wholeheartedly think that Bruce Cassidy is going to suck on those that got him where they are. Now, I mean and it's not coronavirus its way they they ended in in March wage. Where they got a hundred points, so I just think that a lot of these these a lot of folks have really amped up for what's to come of the prospects and they really want to see in as soon as possible even into these playoffs. I just don't see a scenario. That's just a personal opinion in mind. I actually see a player like Jackson dikha or you know, some other place is that a deserving of of call UPS to be more involved next season when things get straightened out and hopefully the the 2021 season isn't compromised but no I just that's just the way I feel I just think they'll do that. But I mean anything to happen to be honest. All right, I would say it's not going to be any of the kids that haven't been out that all this year. Like there's not going to be any of that kind of break out. Like can you figure out a shift? Some of the black cases aren't going to be technically black cases. They're going to be part of the roster. You know what I mean? So it's hard to say who will be the black Easter, you know to answer that but right I don't think any of his eyes hasn't caught our eye before. Well, you know, but we always have a breakout kid every playoff Tori crew Pullman Cliffy whoever like, I mean, there's always some kid recently that has some fun in the class Jake debrusk actually his rookie season if we're going to All right anymore. The last one is a very interesting one and I want to save this for the last cuz it's probably going to take a little while to discuss but it is an interesting one. This is from vibrant ankles at vibrant ankles. On Twitter. This person asks BNG. Do you think Charlie McAvoy tested positive off now this was this was we went back and forth on this conversation and and more or less. I didn't want to speculate but you do have to consider where the person is coming from and it's the also add it's weird that he hasn't been on the ice yet participating in voluntary sessions with Chara and more and all these other guys. Does it seem odd to you that enthusiastic twenty-one-year-old who loves to play doesn't want to participate so I walk As of right now, I just think it's it's it's totally voluntarily. I know he lives in Boston. I know like a player like David pastrnak is on his way home. Now. I think that him what are and some other European euros, they all getting on one private plane that move over here. So nobody's going to get infected and so on that for a source that I know in Providence, but you know, it's just it's not volunteer. I mean it's all voluntary right now. So I'm just I want to go with a you know, I don't want to like really speculate on that. But also, I mean it it does make you wonder but you know when the team does get back together and it now it's mandatory. I think that he'll definitely be involved but you know this I know this was going to happen sooner or later when you look at the tweets and you see who is participating and who isn't there but also this person vibrant ankles birth. Is up there's a lot of other names that have been brought up to and can you speculate on they you know, tested positive or not, you know the whole situation kind of messed up but it was I thought it was a very interesting question. You know what I mean? Yeah, I would say it's hard to check out the list yet because not everyone's back yet. Yeah, I mean people are still moving and it has emerged like a managed. I think the mandatory date is going to be July check until probably after 4th of July or so. There isn't even going to be you know what I mean? They might actually have a little more whatever but we did not know the day but the players I'm sure have till the 6th or whatever to be back for training camp. I think when Charlie McAvoy it might be a matter of where he not sorry itchiness not just him but other players that maybe have some pre-existing conditions maybe like we know Charlie suck hard thing and you know, maybe there's if you're asthmatic and pollens been out of control with, you know, maybe some of those players are just having private sessions. Maybe we don't see or whatever. It's not a job. They don't want to participate but maybe for the sake of it, they're distancing themselves. As long as they have to like this week. We could they can start having 12 in a group or whatever and it could just be a matter of maybe the the isolating themselves a little bit longer before they feel comfortable and participation because they have a higher chance of you know Contracting a disease if you have something like that asthma or that the Houston so that's just my thought on McEvoy, but that's the thing. It's hard to say because no one's making you come back. Maybe you don't feel comfortable or you don't want to or maybe you're still on vacation. You haven't you know, like I don't know what the circumstances but I think like in a map of boys case. I would more speculate that it's more of a health precaution because there are certain conditions that he has thoughts that could make him more susceptible to if just that one like maybe because one person did test positive some of the high-risk players have decided to wait until they have to go to training camp to actually do that and they're just working on stretching and whatever all the other off ice kind of things. Although we're not in the building twenty-four hours a day. We don't know that Charlie McAvoy hasn't gone to bed. You know what I mean? Like like you said like I'd be great if they could set up a webcam so we could just see any time so it's going on and off the ice, but we don't but I don't know I wouldn't expect like again, I don't feel like we talked about with Maria speculating about the player kind of thing. But yes, it makes you wonder but I also you know Think there could be other reasons just cuz he's young and enthusiastic doesn't mean maybe his doctor didn't advise although he's in town and it might look a little shady. You might want to wait until June 30th to get involved or whatever. That's a very fair analysis. You know question though. It was a good question when it was like it was one of those ones that you just you want to take you want to tread lightly on because you don't want to like go to the point that you're starting a rumor, but you also want to go there and just say, huh, that could be a scenario, you know, it's just but you know, like you said with with his pre-existing conditions with his heart and who knows that he might have been just one of those players that listen. Why don't you stay as much time as possible away until we can get a Stranglehold of try to at least but you know it is it is valid. I mean and I know it back then that you know that you know, it's the internet you can find so much in, New Jersey. Asian on it and you can track down, you know who couldn't who couldn't because obviously it's not going to be put out there because of the the the the hippo act so long HIPAA. Yeah, so, you know, but I just thought it was a good question. I thought we can bring it up and and and again I just want to thank everybody who participated in the office tag ask bngs. They've been really good lately. We wish we can get some more. I have a question. Maybe we can maybe a week and signed out hashtag get asked by being sick and we'll throw out a question and see what they say back to you who I like it will have to talk about that and one of our power texting back and forth sessions. but as everything we have to close episode 184 brought to you by Batman line. Please go to back online. Ag and use code clns 50,000, please check out awaken 180. Yes. 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191: Bruins/Hurricanes First Round Recap & Upcoming Second Round Series Against Tampa Bay

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191: Bruins/Hurricanes First Round Recap & Upcoming Second Round Series Against Tampa Bay

"Thank you for listening to the black and gold hockey podcast. Please support the show by subscribing to and leaving a 5-star rating for the show on Apple podcast. IHeartRadio convey SoundCloud Spotify Stitcher any of your favorite podcast platforms. You could also support the show by going to our website black and gold hockey where there's always exciting articles by the vmg writing staff while you're there. Don't forget click on the aynax.com bana are great sports fan shopping experience done yet because that's show them off are you talking about the doors are short-handed birth? More from never home when you get off the meeting and Thursday evening. Hey Bruins fans. Welcome back to the black and gold hockey podcast. This is episode 191. We are recording on Sunday. August twenty third twenty thousand D cannot stop the show without bringing my host or right in here for this one. Ninety one episode Heather Angus in welcome back. I'm sure that your apartment I'm pumped. I'm pumped like it's just pumping like, it's Jersey Shore and 2012 or pumped round to start today. You guys probably won't hear us until tomorrow. So hopefully we have one by then, but we're still going to go about as if we're not going to play till tomorrow, but woo, let's go around too. I love when we play Tampa. It's always a good series. It's always like just really good hockey. So hopefully the history that's true and it's not a bloodbath. We'll see what happens everyone seems to apparently everyone thinks we're losing this series. I don't know why but let's do it. Let's do black and gold with students are ya bud? I am so pumped for this it is it's so good to have like Bruins hockey back the way that we know it the way it's played, you know, it's starting to get trending upward from the plane rounds and the round-robin tournament. So this is getting more and more exciting and it's just going to get more exciting with this second-round matchup. We will talk about it later, but I just got to you know, trying to do the little different things here the black and gold hockey podcast and so on but you know, we like to do the how's it going and how was your week kind of talk before we jump right into talking about some Boston Bruins hockey of the hurricane Series in the upload Tampa Bay Lightning. So, how's it going either? It's going just you know, it's a week. We're not as much hockey this week. So I was kind of like, what do you mean? It's not on till 7. What am I supposed to do with my time, but things have been. All right. Things are good week for the Bruins. I think yeah and makes us happy. I feel like wage. Every Sunday, we're a little half the beer watching our team play which is good. You know, I mean, all we want is a good effort and they've certainly had that mostly at times and how was your week? It was good. It was it was off. It ended like very well. I mean, of course the the forty-hour grind is always something that I do on a normal basis and but Friday was good to have our first official business meeting whether I thought that was pretty cool. Sat down to the brewery silvaticus on Water Street in Amesbury, Mass our hometown representing local. We had a couple of drinks and just started talking about where the shows going and what we can do to make it better and so on and we we do encourage our listeners to please send us feedback, you know, send us an emails get in touch with us via Twitter others now on Twitter. She's a tangle with the big mouth follow her you gotta and then send her a message and send me a message about stuff that we can do better for this program so long We're going to meet up more often like that and and and just kind of hash out some some directions that we can go and we don't want to go so I think it's important to step away from the studio and just sit and relax and home and have a good talk and I enjoyed my time. So I I really appreciate you joining me and and hopefully we can do it again soon. I had a good time too. Because like you said, we don't really get to sit outside like we kind of frantic text back and forth, but we don't get to really have a discussion. Normally. It's like Okay zoo meetings open let's go but we I mean, we've sort of talk but not meaningful fun, sit down with your body and talk about our podcast kind of talk. So that was good times, you know, even more often. Yeah. I find the zoom meetings are ones that like you kind of get rushed and I don't think we get our point across like that more or less face-to-face having a drink and getting it all out hashing it out is the best way that we can do what we do. So I just like to see my friends man. It's been a long. I know I'm on I'm happy to report. It's almost September 9th. And as a New England, are there a lot of people who are not happy. It's almost September about Falls coming up in that means 2020 starting to turn and that's awesome cuz I could get rid of this year, but Luckily, we have sports back to distract us everyone BetOnline AG absolutely sports are back baby back baby. And so is your chance to bet on them with our black and gold hockey podcast, exclusive wagering partner betonline.ag the National Hockey League Stanley Cup playoffs are down to 18 Major League Baseball is currently involved in their regular season NBA playoff faction golf NASCAR and the NFL is set to kick off next month. 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They are been an awesome sponsor of us for the longest time. We have going on a year and probably three quarters now, which has been just an unbelievable path and we we enjoy working with them. So And we're open for more opportunities for sponsors and and advertising opportunities and we have one I have a conference call actually sometime this week with with another company and they really get to work and then have an agreement on the contract. So we're going to bring in a new one for a little while and test them out always looking for sponsors, you know, whatever talk get in touch with Mark. So growing Empire baby get on the train now just kidding. Absolutely. Absolutely. She's not you're not kidding. She's not I'm really not when I say I'm kidding that means I'm really not kidding. It's like when Southerners say, oh bless your life, they're not they are blessing your heart. But in a like, oh bless you kind of got you special, you know, so when I say just kidding, I'm probably not getting Marcus right? Well, I guess should we just start with we lost a legend this week? I don't we always seem to start on a sad note, but I also think it's important to like, I don't want to bury the passing of a legend like this, you know somewhere else. When we're in the middle of our spazzing out about around 2. So do you want to say a couple of words? I do I want to shout out to the family and friends of dale hawerchuk dale lost his battle with stomach cancer. This was the second time that he went through this ordeal the first time he did ring the bell and he went through it all and and and really, you know off just flight fight for himself and family, but the second time wasn't so successful on recovery. So and he passed away. So I just want to get rid of shout out from the black and gold hockey team. That's the website and 28 Riders and all a podcast members here that we're all thinking about his family his son and his wife and so on and I just want to give another shout out to Elliott Friedman and Jeff Marek from the 31 thoughts podcast and onto his two sons that job Join them last week talking about the legacy of Dale hawerchuk and and what he meant to hockey as a sport but also the community and and and how much of a choice a quiet nice guy he was and what I mean by that is you know, they were they were talking about instances where some kids are just a little embarrassed to go and say listen, I don't have the money to do this and that and Dale was always there to write a check and you know, I thought that that was really important and he was just he was one that was all wage growth of the game and a made an impact in that game, you know, Canada cops and so on. So I just wanted to you know, just I know we do stop the show obviously, sometimes we want to bring that news. Like you said, we just want to get it going and so on but I think it's important to to notice that these people and the impact that they made on this sport so long ago and and what they did leave off To their final days. I think it's all important and relevant. So, you know the rest in peace. Yeah, I for me too. I think for us it's he is one of the generation like play as a generational player for when we were younger and growing up. Do you know what I mean? And like you said total Legend on and off the ice and Hockey Hall of Fame, he's been retired by multiple. He played for a couple of themes as numbers retired everywhere. Although I don't understand why Phoenix they didn't retire him in the old Jets like everybody else but still, you know a great honor and yeah, so thoughts and prayers with the family and everything. It's hard most of us have unfortunately had to know someone who's gone through a pack of cancer and it's not easy and there's always the scare of it coming back and whatnot and cancer socks and everyone do the best they can to keep themselves healthy and you know cut the odds because it is but a battler, you know, yeah, we need inspirational people like that and dead. People who just have open kind Hearts, you know grow growing the sport in the right way, you know for all the controversies that happen. There's a lot of people who like him whether they are former players or just people in a community, you know, that really want every kid to have access to be able to play whatever sport they want or take horseback riding lessons or whatever so that let that be a lesson and on and off the I just had a carry yourself and be involved, you know, absolutely and if you do have the opportunity and able to subscribe to the 31 thoughts podcast, I highly suggest you listen to it. It says it's an emotional conversation, but it's one that that was well orchestrated by director animal Village and and so on I probably hacked this name. Sorry. I'm like, a listening anyway, but anyway check out and and listen it's it's kind of cool so on but let's get to some happy. It's a little bit happier conversation about the Boston Bruins making it to the second birth. And Stanley Cup playoffs in this these coal Good Times who knew that this was going to happen we knew when this team was a hundred points back in March that this could be a reality but now we're home with so many months removed from what happened coronavirus oil crap. This is what I'm talking about. Now, we're getting into the meat and potatoes are the Stanley Cup Playoffs. We took care of the Carolina Hurricanes who were who Battlers. They were battles in that series, even though we walked away forward to one they were battles and and I thought that even Jesus even the end the end was kind of like weird because I mean shower and and ride the by Britain ball and man they had a nice little moment there of congratulations and boy, I like to have a Mike right there when that was going on. Yeah things but I mean do you think it's weird for Char like people he played with our Like the GMS and the head coaches and we like is it weird for him? Yeah, it's going to be strange definitely has to be strange ultimate sign of respect though is going on. I also thought the same thing with long trots and overly to we're not serious was over cuz you know, like if I mean, I'll just say it I forgot I was like, oh yeah Washington fired Tom Reardon why cuz he's not very prompt. You should have just thought why I don't know why what happened but like I'll tell you what happened. I'll tell you what, I don't remember. I'm sure I know what the time are you real quick, right? The winter Lots was up for that. He won the Stanley Cup and they were talking about bringing them back. But in some kind of deal, he was only going to make like $250,000 more. And he opted out to go get the money and and Long Island. Well, they aren't they work at every negotiate them. Like hey, dude, you want us to Stanley Cup, he is a couple of years. He has two million dollars a stick around and be happy. They didn't even want to budge on the previous deal. Oh and there was some kind of weird contract thing that was going on. Yeah, he could only make a certain amount of money if they retained them for like I think the first two years and then they can renegotiate it was something weird like that but it drops was like I'm out of here. So I'll just yeah find someone else to break Stanley Cup team around. Yeah and that happened today. So that is technically not on the agenda. But what do you got it down? Sorry. Okay, you just get into it a little bit. Well, I just wanted to mention about just that he happened to get fired. So commences the season of the massacre the Saturday massacre like, you know in Politico. People go get fired all on one night or whatever that's happened going to happen with coaches and GMS and stuff which is part of the normal free agency in whatever area and you know time frame we have Buffet the seasons. But again, it's a weird season. So right now that's all going to start happening now as people continue to go home from the bubble, but what we eating out the men from the boys as they say right? We're getting down to the nitty-gritty and it's lining up to be some awesome matchups. How did you like games four and five? Did you like our play? I did I thought the the Everything is really just coming together. And unfortunately it was at the the the the whim of you know injuries to the Carolina Hurricanes game, you know be that much more competitive but you know, I'm at no loss of you know for saying that they deserve what they got, you know what I mean? But yeah, I I thought that the intensity was wage was was gaining every game secondary scoring was picking up. The defense was certainly getting tighter. It was some scary moments when the puck sitting at that goal a lot of the times and it's off and more or less. It's like, you know, you're basically saying, you know calling for the park and where it is instead of going and making an action for it to get it out of there quickly. So I am attending with with the RO has been has been decent to I mean, there's there's things that you could definitely work on but I mean this is going to be a whole new Dynamic and we'll definitely talk about it in this next round. But yeah, I was dead. Was I liked what I saw I mean and and I'm I'm probably not the biggest Joachim Nordstrom fan on the planet and he probably won't be here next season, but damn he's certainly making a case with the sacrificial shop walk and he's been doing and and what he's done on that penalty kill is just been exceptional and he's playoffs. So there's there's there's there's players that have really stepping up that you didn't think that would after all this rest and there's other ones that just be in really good complementary pieces to a moving forward and success. And I mean, it's just like really exciting. I'm in full once I'm actually like really pumped up for and I was earlier but I just don't it's like it's such a weird year to get like really like into it and like, you know, it's just it's just strange. I think game for still concerned me if it wasn't for that crazy eight minutes. They had in the 3rd. Carolina would have absolutely in deserved to win that game. We still spent. I mean, I think I agree with you that we get better and better every game or whatever back to form, you know, as all the teams are doing you know, but we can't even have that kind of situation if we plan on beating Tampa. So like that's my thing. So in the v game whichever was like, oh they played so well see I felt until about halfway through the second. They played a lot like they did in game four months. They looked better at times way too much time Caroline to spend on our end at times, you know things so our defense looks good, but we have like we can't let Tampa have that much time in there. I can't believe Carolina dinner or more, you know, and that wasn't against halak who played much better game five than game for you know what I mean or whatever and that's just me. I I think though overall we look good. I think we're ready to play Tampa. Have we started playing Tampa? Two weeks ago whatever we would be in trouble. But today I think we're going to have a solid Tampa Boston series as it normally is when you get seven games to have two powerhouses go let it home. Yeah anything else. Did you really see? I mean obviously debrusk was crazy, you know second line continued dominate Charlie Coyle. I mean Charlie Coyle and Charlie McAvoy, they continue to pop off any other thoughts about the Carolina series before we move on to the business to get you down to hand today. I just yeah, I like a voice has been really good and he's transitioning. So well, I mean he it looks so easy when he gets his his feet going and Glides through the defensive Zone into the neutral zone and push that blue line. I mean I say it several times it almost looks like Bobby or you know in some aspects but now I think that's what I think that's what we're going to need. I I might have to touch On this last week, but getting him involved in the offense is really going to make a huge impact when you think about our defense and how threatening it can be on both sides of the puck. Especially when you have Torey Krug who is also a very mobile defenseman, you know, he strongly his feet and so on in his own Defense Zone, but what he does is is is pretty much like a magician for a shorter but mobile player and those two guys and having that element in and support, you know, when you get those two guys that are going and they're covering points for four defensemen that want to join the rush or lead the rush. That's huge. I you know, I know everybody wants to talk and everything. It's not like Pee Wee hockey and you're chasing it down in the corners. It's all sexy up but you know, this is it's it's good to have layers like that and and when when you can get your job You friends involved like that, especially this time of year when it's so weird and it's postseason you're lining up for good success. So there's really a lot of pieces that are really coming together for this club right now. We're getting we're getting a really solid penalty kill power placed seem to link starting to come around. We're not seeing a ton of production on it, but there are signs of improvement. So I think that took getting there and and these couple of days before they actually get involved and do the the series of example of a you know, that's going to be the key for a Bruce Cassidy and coaches staff and so on and off, you know that all starts the night. So I hope that John Cooper happy birthday, sir, by the way, you are a fantastic coach, but but respect we are home. You have a terrible time tonight. Just kidding. I mean happy birthday. But yeah, you're not going to win. Yeah, they it's a very interesting situation where you have two teams and we'll get into it a minute cuz I do wrong. Like we said we're going to spend three minutes on the topic of the week and then move on with allies before we get into round two, but it's interesting because Tampa Bay is out for Redemption, right? Because they've had for 10-years a pretty good Hockey Club lot of people getting paid a lot of money, but they cannot seem to get it to work. Not in the way Toronto really is not ready complete like this is a complete team and it has been in different variations. They're looking how they can redeem themselves from last year but follow through and win like they know they can but at the same time in Boston's pissed that they lost game seven on home ice last year and they should be they should be mad at themselves and still be hungry as they keep saying, you know and do it. So this ought to be a good series overall a lot of Paula houses on there just out of curiosity though before we do the two kitaa, but the power play because I think we were like, oh for six on the power play or whatever, but we have a dog Had a lot. They haven't been calling a lot of penalties either right? You're right. I think they're closer to being more productive. They're looking more like themselves on there. But who would be your first unit power-play foul. Do you like like if you could pick the five players to be the first unit. Who would you pick? Oh, she's that's a great question Heather and and and the other thing on the other side of the coin too is what the Tampa Bay Lightning and John Cooper going to orchestrate on the penalty-kill and and two players on their side that can be definitely lethal on you know, an opponent power say is is if circuit she've and and headmen, I mean those those guys are just experts both sides of the puck. So it's going to be difficult for the Boston Bruins to to get really involved and get behind those guys who play just such a defensive sound game so good job with the small body kind of reminds me of a little bit of Torey Krug Matt grzelcyk kind of kind of birth. On and then they had been just a big shutdown guy that just going to be a nuisance at the top of the crease at all times. So I want to say I would like to see Joe Bergeron Martian and Pasternak upfront but I don't know if I would actually have to defenseman. I would like to see Tori crew cuz he he plays that effective bumper off on the power play but David krejci. I mean, I gotta roll with great because he's just got that that neck especially in these playoffs. He's got a five-game points track going on against the Carolina Hurricanes so gonna have him on there too. He also plays the bumper well to slows the game down for an effective power play off, but when your bodies are not moving so fast, but your passes and and your timing is so yeah, I would say that that would be my line for the for the p p one month. See cuz I've been mulling this over because I feel like if passes back then he should just him version Marshall and should be together right because that just kind of how it goes. But I'm I would not rely I think I would leave him off and leave David krejci in just like the sheer Genius of him and Bergeron on the ice together is ridiculous to me, but I am kicking. I don't know what cuz I am too likes to defenseman on the power play but it's like you gotta have the right defenseman. Sometimes McEvoy still does make a little silly defensive move sometimes when he's trying to get back or whatever. It's not worth whatever but where he's playing so well just kind of all-around. I do kind of want him with Tori on the blue one, you know, I don't I don't but it's hard to tell what Champion. Oh also because Charlie McAvoy is Big Dog could use a big body with these forwards coming up ice, you know what I mean? So and I think that's who I would pick Creech very marshy Torreon Charlie Mac. I mean is what not to be confused with Charlie Weymouth modest more speed right there, you know, if you if you in there, I mean your power plays not reluctant on a ton of speed. It's more accurate past and and timing where your body actually is for that. You know, everybody wants to navigate to the pasta neck one time from ovechkin's office, but like not been cevasco. He's like, he's been studying pasta at 8 for like two months knowing that they probably meet at some point like that. That's why I'm saying too is that you got a shell vasileff. He is a very sexy goaltender, but she can't just shupak on him like you need to get him moving you need to like the rebound is key to scoring on him. If not, he's going to he's like Marty Brodeur is just going to eat the puck or Patrick Wall all day long if you shoot at him so long. I also think that's why that would be a good combination. Do you know what I mean? Like just different similar good. I don't know their brains all kind of work the same, you know when you watch them like I was going to school. And I did say previously with the play of Edmond and sluggish ever Pro don't who I believe might be their top penalty-kill if they get the puck and get it out for the quick transition themselves having your idea opposed to mind is is a little different because now you have Torey Krug and Charlie McAvoy on your blue line on that power play that if a mistake happens a turnover happens, give away, whatever that they they can come back really fast and be an effective on the back check or wage I'm saying it's just just to add that speed factor that probably a player like Carlo won't have you know, so I like it. I do like it actually I mean, I totally forgot about those too and just how fast they can be. I was more or less just concentrating on how the offensive production of the power play would work out. In the in just a passing, you know environment so I never thought about this dating and but until you said that I was like wow, that's really really smart. It's really hard to decide. I'm glad I'm not one of my coaches on a lot. I'm not broadcasting trying to figure out and John Cooper same thing. Like he's probably like, okay like you bet your ass. Everyone else is like just seems positive that the lightning to win but I don't think John Cooper is a fool to think that the Bruins aren't coming out swinging to and that that's a great coat like he's trying to record how also sorry right before when we do the two. I just also I mentioned when you were talking about each game, they're improving. This is why you keep cedeno Chara on the ice because the other day he saved a goddamn goal last second on that goal line with his long-ass reach and whatever else and that is why you need Zdeno Chara because although he is not the most graceful defenseman all the time. He is a good smart defenseman and Ed. That you know, that's his generation. And that's what he does. And even though his legs do look better though. He's skating better like the rust is coming off a little bit. That's why you leave Z out there because he's giant get people away and he's quick when he wants to be his legs might not be quick but his hands still are so we're going to just go with that. Okay. So took a Luca of the week, right? Okay. So wrong with the phone said look a logo that's it's like I feel like it's like Looney Tunes land when it comes to Tuukka Rask, although it also can be argued. I love to go but he does not look like he could be a Looney Tunes villain. He's very expressive with his features, you know, like but so too good in the world world of touka this week. This was pretty much the summary of that long. So Brian Berkel, I love to death we had mentioned had said, you know, people will feel stupid when they find out what would happen right then on Greg Hill Morning Show on WE eye on Wednesday all of a sudden birth. Is taught to Tuukka and it was a family emergency, but you know, like he didn't abandon blah blah blah and now everyone's like, oh well, would you take to Quebec off of all practically? It doesn't make sense for two good to come back for these playoffs. It really doesn't more than just him showing back up to sit with his team in case they do go to The Cup Final and be with his team. But I feel like that's also setting you up one of you gets ten days into quarantine and then he's going to bounce again, like just call it a wash right? Cuz if we're in the finals and yaros, like leave your internet like give him and British wage or whatever. Your preference is. I think he prefers for the dash. But if they're handling their why would you disrupt it even though too cuz you know what, I mean, but like, you know what I don't like disrupting rhythm of things like when people are in a good Groove, like I feel weird, you know, like I don't know. So but Maria had had a good point Maria from Watertown we all love. Yes. Well, what have you. Com Rider and I'll come down hard cast for the new black and gold hockey podcast Network Bruins hockey talk with Maria from Watertown God. I remember was off my lips just like so like an awesome job. It's going to be awesome earlier. We love you. And this is going to be wait until everyone else hears you to outside of this area because you really are very knowledgeable sports fan and although you are definitely a Bruins fan. You don't hold back on giving it to him when you think so and my favorite Bruins fan, that's not me. So under say no I'm just kidding. I can't wait. It's going to be awesome. Yeah, but she had brought up like should this be this info about like, you know, it being an emergency like his daughter called them something. I don't know again. It's all speculation. I don't believe anything unless it's coming out of his mouth, you know, whatever. But then about him coming back and I just what what are your thoughts on the two and the like I personally think I don't think it should go to either I think Tuukka Rask should be on if he wants it to be explained and leaked out there that I do feel. I don't think I'm one of those fans who I don't feel too close me shit because he plays well in that generally, you know, like and I don't write as paycheck. So I just need you to show up like if you you're not in the game or you need to go home. I'm on board go like, you know what I mean still heart you. Bye. See you later. Go to you do you think but I do think if you're going to start leaking out are talking now, I don't know who can really talk to Greg Hill, but he definitely is someone that the players would talk to maybe and have personal contact with I need you to to do a phone call or something so I can hear from you to talk to the fans. You know what I mean? I feel like all that does is just aggravate the situation more if you're not going to go through the Bruins, then you yourself should be saying the shit or tweeting it or putting it off. Is block or whatever to get it out there and have a direct line to the fan base who you know, very well is flipping their crap. Cuz you've been in this town long enough to know that he's a polarizing. He's a polarizing player. I mean, it's like rod for everything that is eight. So this is feeds into their wheelhouse. Yeah. What do you think of all this to? How about what do you think about the Tuukka this week? Well, I will let you know that Brian Burke Hockey Central at noon. Brian Burke was on there were talking about this with Jeff Marek and Anthony Stewart and I believe Justin born. They all had a conversation about it and Burke. You said that this is probably going to be a time that when Tuukka Rask does come out and say why he left the bubble why he was so this orientated there and in his in his interviews and and and in fact that it is a family matter and and in fact what actually happened log That so-called family member and and and Burke. You said that it's going to probably make very some people I'm paraphrasing here but eat their own crap, they you know, because of the the nonsense that's been spread about this man not being a team player and so on listen, you know, you leave the bubble, that's fine. But once once a teammate off and several teammates come to your rescue and say listen, you know it is it's his decision and we respect that and he respects that we're going to move forward without him, you know, I have respect itself and and respect the man's wishes on leaving and taking care of something that in my opinion is still a little more important than the game, you know family is very important. So on, you know, the the the crap that comes out of the internet is absolutely crazy like the picture of the gulf the gulf picture say, I totally forgot about to go was supposedly golfing off. On Thursday, and maybe it was Thursday. I didn't even share it. I didn't I didn't even look at it. I didn't click on it. Cuz I knew the website that it was actually coming from and and normally that is such a click bait website like in like to go basket leaves the bubble which is automatically making news but this certain website turns around and says about a Haggerty our life or Hagi interview that he did for TSN saying that Tuukka Rask is his future is unknown and then you click on it. I see I bought in Click you click on it and you look and you see Hagi actually said that after his contract is over next season him future doesn't look so good. It wasn't about his last year under contract. They feed you in like that Heather. It's like a crack deal with like I got you what I was worrying about. I'm more of birth. I think it's funny because it was like a big deal in like literally legit like our local news crews went out to try and see which I appreciate because at least they're trying to find out what's true and not true. You know what I mean? I don't care honestly if Tuukka was golfing either way cuz again if he comes back to the bubble that's fourteen days. He can't do crap anyway or whatever it is because you don't know we don't know if his testing will go well this and that what you know what I mean, like who knows it could be up to ten whatever, you know, it's a drug Runners only been that I wouldn't even bother. Sorry. I was going to say something funny thing. I thought was this is that I mean, we have two very distinct radio stations that are kind of the primary sports news democrat and Republicans right and wrong. There are things I like about both and things I don't one you'd probably Is more of the like News sports or allegedly? Right? Cuz I mean you can make the you know, it's talk radio. You never know, you know. And the other one doesn't even pretend like it's not just like a lab fast kind of rate. Yeah, I mean, it's not like they they talk about but that's not like they even pretend like they are serious reporters kind of thing. They are but they are you I mean, that's not even Theirs to be all. The first time the ones date anybody who's from this area will know what stations were talking about everyone else. You don't have to worry about it because you don't have to know free ads. This is the first time that I've ever heard certain people. I'll say it like silver that are like look if he was golfing whatever but he probably was not golfing just cuz it was reported. Somebody would have seen him. There's not like a girl either way, but just shut up in this is the least important thing going on in the Bruins world right now, you know what I mean? And that was surprising to me from that radio station that with the exception of a few people that are on there. Of course, you know, that's the way it is, but they're more radio personalities versus the sport alleged guys, but the sports guys were the ones that seemed like the click-bait rumor mill people this week and I thought it was funny that the guys like to just get into it and perpetuate and stir the pot where the ones that are like everyone shut up. Okay, like if you went home legit over his kids, you know don't people go golfing to get away from their lives like it's a relaxing activity. You know, it's not like struggling but let's not make it out to took a left the bubble to go golfing because he really need to get to Bass petite. I'm just welcome from the people. I reached out to wage. Um that image that was used in a certain article that was like attract in that clickbait. I mean, he'll use an image of Tuukka Rask golfin. That's just going to create a storm of people that need that more information which which obviously they clicked on but that I heard that picture was from 2013, you know, it's just it's just something that they use to log you in because every page view is is a is a dollar in their advertising scheme or whatever. So it's just oh God, if honestly if I ran a website and all of us 2627 writers and that's all I did I'd be pretty damned ashamed that I'm putting that crap out all the time, you know, no freaking way. Am I doing that shit I get that but um, Gently the world we live in has a high time allowing. We've talked about this like even with Joe Haggerty right? Like I obviously respect Joe Haggerty. He's been a Boston Sports journalist. My whole life will not my whole life, you know, like just for at least a couple decades of solid like have it. He's a sports guy in this town and I respect, you know, I know that he has respect in his profession and he you know, but because he's an older generation and journalists that has changed with the wind, right and I'm not saying he's a click bait person. But he also every now and then as a more like pot-stirrer than he used because that's what people go for right? No one cares what the article actually says they care about the headline. I like to play fun games sometimes when I read the news of just read the headlines and try to make up the rest of the story myself am quite could this possibly say like one night alligator eats Republican. Oh was he wearing antifa? Sure, cuz that's going to be awesome. Like, you know what? I mean? Like I just like to have just wage. Is the kind of things that I think of but all right. So those are the tales of the Tuukka Rask. I don't know where you are. I'm still at on a different either way like to be with your family even if it's yeah, I don't if you don't come back I plan on seeing you in December though. So or late November after Thanksgiving for training camp. It's so you better be there. You do owe me the last year your contract. That's exactly how much money I need for torregrosa. I'm just saying. Yeah, let's put a tap on this keg. All right, go. No, I just think that you know with the reports of him coming back. I think it's not going to be a very good thing, you know, listen is good that he goes and takes care of his family issues and so on and whatever is whatever the reason he needs to leave home coming back. I just think is going to set a bad. feeling you know, I'm saying I just like jaroslav halak now has an agenda. He sees a schedule ahead of him. I know it's very compressed in so we'll definitely get into that. But you know, I don't mess with that right now that that Juju is like really good. It really got us through a majority of that Carolina series and I want to see this go forward with with hello back and listen 50% to not hear a hundred percent halak is is is what I'm gambling on and and if they were odds at betonline.ag no damn right? I'd be off on that shit and I think the the team itself and the rest of that Carolina State, you know, obviously the first game I got a rally around y'all they have to approve like, you know, we're going to be fine. We're going to survive. I mean it is a big deal with yeah. That's the finalists goalie walks out like that is a big deal, you know what I mean, but I think Took a I mean whatever as much as rumors, whatever like clearly his teammates respect in under or at least understand, you know what I mean as a Brotherhood and I don't think mm. I feel like Toca is more likely to send, you know, like get on them with face time or whatever and send words of encouragement or like I said, if he does return more of sit there as a support like God. Yes, I am the quote unquote starting goaltender, but I think him and y'all have a special relationship. I know it's always like goalies or there's they're on their own Island and go lie his Union dog too clearly have a very good Synergy and respect for each other and I don't think that he's the type of person who walks in and says, oh, well, I'm the starting goaltender, even though I haven't played in three weeks, you know, I just I don't feel like that's the personality of this team and or any of our players regardless of what people's opinions of it are so that's all we're going to we love you whether your golf and not golfing as long as you're being dead. Father and husband and human that's always support just like everybody else out there, even though like I said, sometimes I'm an asshole bloodline will get to that when we get to go there and bingo the big mouth on Twitter home. Is that what it is? I have no idea. I don't even know my own Twitter is but there are a few brave souls that want to follow whatever and you cross the threshold of allowing me to reach with your shit. Why did you say you had you said that three weeks ago? What are you changed? I've got I did I thought I did, you know today like oh, yeah. I I said what's that too much of the pink word? Nobody home. I never water it down. I have a little water down why because it is 3:04 in the afternoon. I would be conscious you know how that is. Oh, yeah drinking, you know me if I'm going to drink a mall and that's why Friday and like a couple of beers and I gotta be done. Thank you for getting that pretzels. Perfect. Thank you. How are you? All right. Well, let's do it. Let's talk about Tampa round two. Are you off? Jumped 2% for this so I didn't mean to yell in your ear. He had hello out there. We're on the air. It's Hockey Night Tonite. I got my own new song. I'm not very good. But I do know it. Like I said, it's like a lot of songs once it's on and I hear it. I can sing all the words, but when I'm just thinking of it, I'm like to dinner or something Bobby scores the good old hockey game. Oh, yeah at the scarf may be aware like this tonight. That was last year game 7. I have like wrapped. I was like choking myself out like I could do weird things like, you know, like, you know, like little league baseball when you do your rally cap upside down. Yeah. I remember the rally cap really disturbing name is very Padres rally cap. So it turns out we're going around 2 versus Tampa Yaar Again by the time people hear this at may or may not be depending on how quick you edit this unit once don't you won't know till tomorrow. So surprised if she lost both playing Tampa Bay, they went over to right they struggled in the beginning of the year, but definitely coming out of kind of the All-Star in that area. They were on a tail looking like Tampa. Yeah off 4321 and 6 with 92.370 games so they probably wouldn't have caught the Bruins but they certainly were one of the only teams who had large Coke amounts of points. Like the Berlin said a lot of teams this year. We're kind of all around the same. So finally parody has really happened is only good for us. I'm just saying but yeah solidly second in the East and off obviously their Powerhouse. These are how they tend to roll their lines while well, I don't know if these are they're actually starting lines for tonight, but these are kind of a general lines that I like to roll. Especially Stamkos is out. We know that for game one which NACA for Stamkos who I totally respect dude took a puck off his face. And when was in like 10 minutes later, I remember I was at the same vehicle and I was like, oh, he's out of the game. Like what are you fucking talking about? Its game seven of the Eastern Conference Finals. This bitch is going to get some stitches and he'll be back here. Trust me on that. Like that's the kind of first of all that's how hockey play-offs but Steven Stamkos as a warrior, but he's out good for us John Cooper. Like you said awesome coach leading the charge of this. So this is how their lines typically tend to be set up. So freakishly there is going to potentially be to Andres on the same ice at the same time. Cuz we've got Andre Kasha and they've got ondrej palat right? Looking good. Yeah, they didn't Point who that kid, just everything gets better and better Nikita kucherov off couch her office. Scary is very scary. So is Brayden point I don't know this is A pretty scary line to me, but that's all right. I'm not too worried. Then you get Alex kill horn Anthony. Cirelli and Tyler Johnson. All right, I don't care for Anthony cirelli, but I also can't argue against him for what he does for this team on that second line. Then you got Barclay Goodrow, which is one of my favorite names. I always have this thing like hockey people should have kind of different names. So it sounds cooler when the announcers are saying it on Yanni gourde and Blake Coleman who I don't think is as impressive as everyone else does but that's just me Patrick maroon, I guess trying to go for back box with two different teams Mitchell Stephens and Cedric Paquette. And as Mark pointed out, you got a pretty sick back end when they're on headman and Zac Brown Band who Mark if I recall wanted us to get at the trade deadline if possible, but we did not get him. He went to Tampa instead you got Ryan McDonagh and Eric cernak, and then log Sergachev who is just I love him and Kevin shattenkirk who I do not love but what say you mark what talk to me about this series talk to me about that. Usually run their first choice Power Point kill horn Point Palatka trough and sergachev apparently with obviously certain people out. They've had some injuries had been in and out of things like that. Well, I'll tell you something right bow have this this matchup is kind of like having me navigate to an area of the game that I just you know, I I I do understand but I just don't think that it's the makeup break on a series. You know me goals goals goals are what win games? So if you get outmuscled then that's your own problems what I mean, you should have been scoring more goals to make up for your you know, you toughness so I'm not in on that but this team is going to be coming at your heavy and I believe that this is a type of t e That the Bruins have played against and and that's st. Louis Blues that Stanley Cup champions last year, but the same same Saint Louis Blues that are now out of the same thing play offs, and I need to ask joint been in a question. Are you nervous now sir? Hm interesting. So anyway Anthony cirelli Blake Coleman Barkley Coggin Yanni gourde. Tyler Johnson. Kalon Joseph. These got Patrick remote maroon maroon is going to be bringing it Cedric Cedric black cat is going to be bringing it hard and heavy on this team. So be ready for that absolutely be ready for that and the addition of a Nick Ritchie a bigger body type of player, um into the lineup. It is official that he will be in the lineup is going to probably compensate a little bit onto that toughness sandpaper grit kind of area wage. This this series is definitely going to see these two teams really do not like each other much respect much respect apps all the way through but this is a t these are two teams that especially the Tampa Bay Lightning. It almost seems like they can't get through the Bruins for in certain situations in the past. Although it's not always lined up to the way. Yeah, very even a match it kind of like not for anything. But how we played Toronto the last few years in the first round. Toronto could have beat us any of those years they didn't cuz we're finished hers and they're not but I kind of like that. It's not normally a blow it it's always like like even this during the regular season. It was like they beat us the couple meetings. We had we didn't get to play our whole series against them because of covid-19. It was like we lost in overtime five for like, you know, things like that like it's never usually like a 72 game or whatever and nobody wants to watch that kind of hockey game. I mean sure it's fun to watch someone get blown out every now and then But you also don't want what do I know? I'm the person who thinks it's ridiculous to tell your player not to swing for a grand slam when they're on a 300 count. So what do I know? I know this is a heavy fast team, right? And when we're on our game we can also be a heavy fast team. I mean, maybe we're not as big necessarily as Thursday are but the way we play we played bigger than we actually are like we used to have a lot of big players and played big now. We're not so physically big but when we want to push people around and we want like these boys can do it. It's just a matter if they're going to or not. I'm actually curious to find out your your Insight on this particular conversation when it comes down to offer Comfort level on on who they were playing and and I heard Bruce Cassidy head coach of the Boston Bruins talk about how he's more comfortable playing at Cinema birth. Lightning team over the the potential of possibly see in the New York Islanders where I thought I personally thought that they were runs would have an easier path to go through in the second round took them over the Tampa Bay Lightning possibly. See these two teams that are matching up starting tonight in the in the Conference Finals, but Cassie's all full in on on believing that this club matches up against the the Tampa Bay Lightning very well and possibly could could make a series of this. So I mean, I'm fully on board whatever Bruce says, you know, you know big fan of him and wage and the coaching staff and what they do, but I I just hope that the the talk of acts up the the the product on the ice because it's going to be like you said it's going to be one hell of a series coming down to physicality and and off as offensive threat because Tampa Bay certainly does have that but we know as Bruins fans and that hundred a month. Season that we just had that we can do I have two keys. These are my two keys of how we beat Tampa Bay. Obviously, I'm not a hockey analysis and Analysis a hockey analyst clearly can't even say the word. So I think it comes down to two things. Neither Mike Milbury neutral zone. We have been horrible in the neutral zone. Now, we've been giving up way too many pucks and I can guarantee you if we give it up to Tampa Bay. They're going to bury in the back of the net you boys have to give Yaro a chance as Mark said we didn't lose game seven solely because the blues were playing heavier hockey than us. We lost it cuz we didn't put the puck in the net because in the end it's about your goals. If your goal time is having a rough stretch, but you're back them up by if he gives up when you get a bat like we need a little more controlling not as many takeaways and we have to be better in the neutral zone. Like we have two we're usually very good about even if we give up we go back and get it like I used to tell my youth soccer players, right? Is that your ball or their ball? Well, it's their ball now. Well, if you want it to be your ball, you better go get it, right? We need that and the other key is shot. I have that little John song stuck in my head shot shot shot shot shots. If you are on a scoring vasilevskiy, you got to get him moving but you gotta get him just being pelted. Other than that. He's not letting anything in no matter how good we are no matter how long pastas one-timer is or anything else. Also a third thing. Come on Torey Krug score me a gold baby has been shooting at everything but not getting anything he's dead. Create the rebounds but it's just not happening the way he wants it to do. All right, what else about Tampa? What do you think of the two keys to beating Tampa? You've already mentioned getting Buckle part 5 minutes before we took our first break. So yeah, I still think I still think you still have the gift, you know to expose them. You have to find out ways to get behind the defense and disrupt what they're trying to do on a regular basis because they like they have big body defenseman. They have they have Braydon Coburn they have had been, you know, it's just it's a and Jose defenseman to which can easily take a give away and their Zone and just quickly quickly move it out to kuch or off and all these these other unbelievable defensive players at the Tampa Bay Lightning have on their roster. I literally just got go Goosebumps. I don't want to like all these Tampa Bay Lightning people, but I do like that's true. I mean to me dead. Is the standard of what a modern NHL defenseman it is just so he can get together. He can still be a shutdown defenseman, but he's also an offensive Powerhouse and that's why he is out for the Norris Trophy because to me he is the standard of what a modern NHL defenseman should and will be and you know, like that's the type of player Charlie McAvoy could be when he gets his stuff to eat, you know, like not life obviously people have different. I'm not saying you're going to be back to heaven but you don't mean that kind of player that is a well-rounded offensive defenseman but a stand-up defenseman at the same time and it's still kind of hard for me. This series is going to be about board battles neutral zone dominance and defensive of coverage. I mean, there's three things right there. That is so cliche that you can probably hear any National Hockey League that TV announced or radio announcer talk about on the regular but that is pretty much what you're going to age. Do do to win the a series like this against this team. We have had really good luck against the Tampa Bay Lightning in the past but sooner or later this Corps is just going to get to a point that you know, it's it's it's not going to be ready for teams like this, even though the Bruins are building slowly and we're we're losing a piece were gaining 3 and younger Talent this team is is is pretty much like ready to play and and and in my opinion ready to like be a dominant team and and show that Boston is not going to run through him this time in a month. I'm not saying I'm a t fan or anything like that. It's just the fact is that there's history here and it might not be like we play them every time like, you know with the whole wild card situation. It navigates the Bruins pretty much to play the Toronto Maple Leafs every freaking out. Reason, you know, we do kind of sporadically see this team but more or less later in the round results sooner or later. It's like it's going to be Tampa Bay's day. And but I hopefully that's not going to happen in the second round series because it's just it's it's a bigger test from Carolina. I mean, I thought Carolina was going to be a tougher test and and really bring this page the series there in the first round of seven games, you know, I I do looking at home and and and and you know Sebastian nickel off and all these other players that just come along so well, I thought it was going to be a a little better series from them. This is now you just go into another realm of a whole different category of offensive threats. So it's it's going to be interesting and I thought obviously I'm going to bed online. Ag and putting a a C note on the Bruins. Absolutely. I don't care if I make another hundred and five, you know. Everyone go BetOnline AG. I love her. I thought that we could maybe in the sake of like, let's shake it up a little bit where like trying to do our same patterns, but change them up a little I thought maybe yeah, I just thought that maybe as we went we would sprinkle in a few ass png's as they were topic related. I think I had mentioned to you to maybe do so before we go to our first break. There's a few that are kind of related back in this and the next topic. I thought I'd ask you one before we go to break. What do you think? Sure I'm all for five nights up your name. I apologize. I'm usually pretty good at names. So, let's start with this one. This one's pretty this is from Clovis Roy or ruelala. I don't know I would say Clovis Roy, but it could be closed Louis is a great follower awesome follower at Clovis. Which one is it Roy or do you know I don't know what stage to be going to say. It's Roy as I say cuz this is New England. We say French names both ways. It's hard to tell which one it is dead. Says I'm going to say Bruins and 7 and say it will be a long hot series. Do you agree that is closed as question. Thank you for the question Clovis before we go to break. Let's just quickly out, you know, whatever minute each and say whatever 30 seconds each and what do you think seven games? And if you think it's a different games things that's fine to say but do you think that we're off on the series real quick? I'll do this so fast the playing around. Okay what I saw out of them. I thought that the Carolinas Ares would be seven games wage just just because of the the ramp up and what we were looking at to see what was going moving forward this totally different. This is definitely going to be a seven-game series in my opinion because these two teams can dead is way they can nitpick at each other's weaknesses and and make everything kind of even so I see this one going the full boat. Okay, I do agree with Clovis and also I don't want to John gehlot. Yeah, there's no lie. So it must be gehlot. He also asked his traditional question when we get out of second round. So you are saying yes probably seven games you agree with Clovis and you're also saying the Bruins are going to win and seven Going the Distance right off, but we will get out around 2. I'm going to have to agree. I think the best kind of Tampa Bruins series are the seven-game Series game 7 is always just a bloodbath. I was lucky enough in June 2013 to be at the got it, you know what I mean, but that one and the window still right? I wanna nothing win no penalties. It's like their wage. So I agree. I think this is going it minimum 6, but probably seven like it usually does because once these two teams get in the series overall. They're the same. Games like Mark said there's history there's whatever and also there's something to be said when the Titans Clash they want to be fighting. The other Titans to write Tampa Bay is looking at this like if we can get through Boston, then this cup is ours right in Boston's probably of the same thing. I also last thing as before we just go to break for a second. I do believe that this is the moment that the NHL wanted last year but Tampa Bay get eliminated and that fucked up the ratings plan for around 2. So good for you Gary Bettman, you get the wrong to Eastern Conference fight between the Bruins and the Bruins and lightning are both still really spell it. Awesome. They're the talk to teens, you know what I mean? And Tampa was only third in the league. So it was like, I think it was us st. Louis then Tampa for like legal overall standings. So this should be an epic Clash and ball teams could be Stanley Cup champions, but only one of us gets out of this round. It's got to be Brew. That's right. Boston baby boss to be any but anyway, anyway, let's talk about a different area of the world. Let's talk about Yarmouth. Nova Scotia Yarmouth. Nova. Scotia is a very Bountiful place in the Canadian province of the maritimes and they have a tremendous store called the store next door. Please go to the store next door. C a month and tell them the black and gold hockey podcast sent you when you go in order something from awesome people that create things from recycled hockey equipment and sticks and wage. They have disabilities. They put them together and tell you the products are unbelievable. So anyway, let's take a quick break. But please check out this commercial from the store next door in Yarmouth. Nova Scotia. The website is the store next door. We'll be right back. There's a lot of people with disabilities. I can't just go and find a job. So we set out to create a business to fill those needs wants to get a Time package store. Next door gift shop is a Yarmouth base manufacturer and retailer last storm. So we make great ideas at any of our employees come up with and we reuse and recycle as much as possible. Our most popular item is probably knocking furniture and we take break and hockey sticks and turn them into different products we go through a lot of hockey sticks a lot a whole lot considering that it's only been a year and we're shipping internationally. I think I'd have been a huge success. Most people's reactions are wow, you do this here. We not accept can't hear everyone here in different ways. We want to give everybody every opportunity to find exactly what works with them. There's nothing better than when a customer buys something and then one of our employees think I made that they have meaningful lives and build things. They can be proud of and get a paycheck for it. I mainly actor and we've changed lives one job. Hey girl, has fans. Welcome back to the black and gold hockey podcast episode 191. We had talking about playoff hockey. We're talking about all kinds of stuff. But we just heard from the great Folks at the store next door make unbelievable unbelievable hockey furniture and they do it from recycling recycled hockey sticks and so on. So I took we act that returned. But anyway, please go to the store next door. CA and support those guys. There are Yarmouth Nova Scotia base company doing great things for awesome people. So we're back Heather. What is what is I don't think we're done with round two and kind of a few things around with that so sucks. So Jack in the Box one of our writers. Yes at Jag guncel the Godzilla. That's what you said right gospel. Yeah. He had asked for an ass P&G could nickname be more of an impact if we played Tampa Bay with a more physical presence, right? So I thought that was fitting you mentioned. I correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know if you know, I think it it's Richie coil Buick, right? It's going to be the on the third line tonight. What do you think? Do you think Nick Ritchie? Maybe we'll be no. I'm not pro or against Nik Richie. I'm anti Brett Ritchie, but I'm neutral on the Nick Ritchie. Just like Cosh. I haven't seen you enough. I don't really know. You know, you're not really I didn't really have high expectations for you. I just need you to be a big body and make smart plays. That's really all I need you for do you think that in this series he will find him or be more impactful like his kind of skill-set is more useful a Kind of matchup vs Carolina. I seriously hope so have a because of the fact is that we talked about earlier that Tampa Bay is going to be bringing that hard heavy gritty game and and the Bruins are going to have to counterpart with this if folks if folks want me to believe in this whole grid factor, I want to see it now. I want to see it now. I want to see it from this point moving forward in certain situations and teams that they might match up later on in the Stanley Cup finals. I'm sorry the playoffs that they could play that type of game and and and move forward with the team example. So I think his insertion is going to be important. He's he's a multi guy. He's I mean, he's he's out there to protect the team and not only that add a little bit of offensive or if necessary. I know we can do it seen in in in Anaheim on several occasions not consistently but several occasions, you can see that he's got a nice nice shot and fully capable of playing those wage. Types of roles so I think it is going to be important so but short leash, you know what I mean? It's just like if it doesn't work and not working out. I don't think we should keep in that roster spot available. You know, whether would be the third line or of a for somebody that's not producing either in even on the physical side. So juice counterpart that when somebody that can be an offensive threat potentially and and play those odds that way. I think you hit the nail on the head and you said consistently sorry. We're getting some storms. I just wanted to unplug my laptop. So just in case just in case is it worth played the hurricanes in the lightning and now we're getting thunderstorms weird. That's so strange. It's an almond that kind of the it's the Bruins are going to win home. And yeah it is I like dark home. I'm waiting for some crows and ravens or something to whatever. Okay. So anyways, like I was saying, I think that you hit the nail on the head with a consistency with Nick Ritchie knickers use exactly what I expect my car to to be but I need you to be at least like the kind of the skill set. I can value in my lineup Nick Ritchie. No dumb penalties, Nick Ritchie stand up and put people in their place is not necessary. He does that he will be in for the series, you know what I mean? Because we do need more. Of that kind of just I don't know, you know opinion to the boards kind of type guy, you know, I don't know. I don't know what I'm saying. I lost my train of thought but yes. Yeah, I think in Mark thinks that yes, he'll be more impactful in this area is as it goes on if he plays the right way, but Mark probably hit the other nail right on the other had that Bruce Cassidy. I'm sure has a short lease because we do have options we have more class than we need and there are people you know, whatever. We'll see he's got to find the new combos right? We're not playing Carolina anymore playing Tampa Bay and on this topic. I just want to Quick shout-out to Jack. Sell them that did the ass BNG. He also wrote an article for a black and gold hockey.com about this exact topic. So please go there and check it out really in-depth kind of piece quick one, but it was really really good and to the point on how they can gauge that physicality and we're to be using a situation like this against Tampa Bay. All right, the good it's all working out. Now. We're going smooth. Let's well, this is kind of a combo to cuz we had wanted to talk about it. I know that I think Chris black. He asked a question about something. I just wrote down. Can we win this series with halak just before I took this question. Do you think that we can if halak is healthy and we're playing Bruins hockey. Can we beat Tampa Bay with lock and that instead of touka, I believe so I absolutely believe so I think that off this is the type of situation that jaroslav halak it's like driving on and and his late-career stuff that you know wished he it happened sooner obviously, but I think he's going to be ready and I think even a goaltender like Danville it is going to be ready and stepped up his game in his practice efforts to be ready at a moment's thought. Notice whether we injury or a potential factor of a situation, which we're going to have two scenarios, I don't know if you want me to go further on this you can do whatever you want. Hashtag goalie in a nation million cash a goalie Union 1490. That's all I'm thinking. Hello Marty Brodeur, but we might as well just hit it now. I honestly think that there might be an opportunity in one of these situations that Danville. I might get a start and here's my here's my point is I understand a lot of people are going to be like no you ride the guy with the most experience especially in the playoffs I get it but we're in the second round of the playoffs. I don't think you want to burn out a player like jaroslav halak who is a 35 year old veteran. I get all that. We're just coming back from a 5 and 1/2 month Hiatus and then kind of getting into the whole thing a gold tend to like him and I'm Not Dead. I'm an expert at this I don't hang out with a sensor and done them or anything like that. But a goaltender like this in my opinion is is due to have one of those days that just not going to work out for him. But I think it might be important to get a player Lightfoot are involved if necessary and if he has the trust of the coach and give a lock the rest in one of these situations cuz we're already talking about this this series going seven games either, you know and and game two and three is a back-to-back and then game six and seven is a back-to-back so long I don't know. I mean if it goes back and forth its ways each way. I just see one chance that this could could could have an opportunity to do it. Now. Here's the thing. Here's a lot of people coming at me saying I'm giving it to the guy with the most initial experience. Well, if the guy with the most NHL experience is your man and why isn't he there now? So here's another thing. I don't believe the gas is going to be here next season. I think that the Providence Bruins are definitely going to roll with a damn blood rush but our and Jeremy swim in tandem with that is going to be solid to watch and I cannot wait that'll be the best $80. I spent on a gel TV. I'll tell you that right now no free ads. But anyway, but anyway. I just I just think that it is a solid opportunity for this kid to get involved and and I hope he does cuz I think he can really show this this fanbase that he can be clutch wage. He'll need to if you get the opportunity. So that was Chris Blackie at Chris score Blacky. He had asked if you confident if Ladera was needed in fact spot, so you sound like you're saying yes, you feel comfortable. Like you're still just as comfortable. Yeah, obviously, it's not the same as yellow and hookah, but you're not you do filho can handle the workload and thanks Dan le le Desh he can come in. He should get a little experience and he'll be all right, if you need him for a game for like you said practical reasons yarrow rest, right? So you're you say yes affirmative to Chris Blackie. Yeah. Absolutely. I really think that and I'm not expecting Miracles. I mean anything could happen. It's just all about confidence with Dan. He's he's he's such a good kid. He's a funny kid. Everybody loves him in the locker room, but when it comes down to getting game-time already, he's very focused and so on. So, yep. Probably scaring the shit out of them right now that he did that. They could be an opportunity and he talked about it on his birthday. He he's very happy that the Bruins got him to that point, experienced all this and even back then when you said that in his in his press conference, it wasn't even the fact that he was going to get into a game. It was just the the pure emotion of being in the bubble around a complementary group like the Boston Bruins and the leadership. I kind of think that he is ready for this and this is going to put if he comes in there and and plays and just does it I think this is one thing that we're really bite on to a lot of Bruins fans that don't have the opportunity to have the funds to spend to watch the Providence Bruins on the regular bulb follow them on a regular and get to know who the next guys that are coming up and I think that that's why we provide a good service at black and gold black and gold hockey.com wage. Site, cuz we do kind of tend on a lot of prospect articles. Okay, so I feel that we have definitely covered this campus. I mean just honestly if you don't know who the Tampa Bay Lightning game, I mean what we've talked us to death. I think at this point at least what we can do we'll obviously have more to talk about as the series progresses. That being said. I wanted to mention the schedule if you're a weirdo and want to put I'm sure you probably need the app and you have the calendar, but just to mention it we start tonight on Sunday the 23rd at 8. So maybe you won't hear this before then. Maybe we'll which will be awesome. But we're going to play Tuesday the 25th 7 Wednesday the 26th at 8 p.m. We're not even going to get into why are there back-to-backs when there are only eighteen s playing? We don't understand but like that's a whole week ago all we can Circle back to that if you you can weekend so Tuesday and Wednesday the 25th and 26th at 7 and 8 respectively Friday the 10th at 7:30 then Sunday the 30th and then Tuesday and Wednesday the 1st and 2nd has needed for games 567 versus Tampa Bay as we've already established we plan on at least be playing off on Tuesday the 1st, right? It's got to go at least six games. There's no way teams is going to Total the other game. You know, I just don't just laws of averages say that just doesn't even make sense that that would happen. So we're going to hope for the best gobies positive energy. I understand where Boston fans we always get negative on these things. Like we're just very hard on ourselves as fans are players everything else that's going on, but there's going to be a good series they all the positive energy. I meet a lot of people yelling shook shook cuz they can't hear us in here also if they're dead, Look like they've got let in their skates. You got a yell School. You gotta let them feel on the fan cams that they are in the garden and they can hear the noise the suite noise of their own fanbase sending them. I'm going to say, all right. So the next order of business. I just wanted to mention what the rest of the bracket looks like Tampa we start tonight the Canucks and the nights. Tonight to at 10:30. That's going to be a good series. We think yeah, awesome hockey and Vegas is a good team. They well put together. So you get the flyer of the Flyers along the Islanders and then you have the ABS of the stars and the Stars actually already be the Avalanche one. Nothing in something that surprised everyone I think. Not that because Dallas isn't a good team like the Calgary Dallas series was good hockey, you know, whatever but I think that the Avalanche are pegged to be the West Champs. You know what I mean? It's supposed to come down to them vs Vegas or whatever and I think that the stars are going to do the best they can to disrupt that as will a Canucks vs the nights, you know, so either way I think that the office been a long time since we've had the final 18s be really bracketed teams that are playing good hockey, you know entertaining hockey and some good matchups and we'll see right do you say the Flyers are going to beat the Islanders? Can we just I just want your prediction cuz again, I'm not I like the Islanders. I think there are a solid team. I'm not convinced. They're as good of a team as they play like sometimes so but Phillies also just had six months of on-and-off plain awesome hockey. So what do you think I kind of think that the island is going to give him a little bit of a run for their money and so on to me in that series it's all going to wage. The goal-tending Carter Hart is going to have to really just come out of and pretty much like do his old school Braden holtby appearance and kind of just just as a young goaltender come into the league out of nowhere and just and just take a hold of a a series 2 or 3 and and possibly you know, the Conn Smythe winning X twenty twenty, you know, who knows but no. I just I think that it's that serious are going to be huge and and you know, the Islanders are going to have to be ready for that on Thursday end of love the goal-tending Spectrum. Cuz that's a lot of coming that's that's a lot coming at ya. You know Travis connect to me is just a a kid's a fucking Powerhouse, you know, I mean the key just off just Barrel through people and just so offensive and and you know Carter and and and gossip Spear and and just and you know, even the who I believe is the Salty Dog. If you went to this year, go ahead and now I can talk Sean couturier. Yeah. Yeah, so I don't know. I mean good Siri. I'm looking forward to it. But Thursday. Yeah we go there one last question before we get to the we're going to give a shout out to all the awesome writers that black and gold. If you we can get out of this series with halak and not do you think we can win the cup with lock? Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's it's all going to be about how this whole thing is managed and we just went over it with the the the two back-to-back scenarios that are are in this second round against the Tampa Bay Lightning. So and I understand that the other side of the coin the Tampa Bay Lightning of dealing with the same thing in back-to-back situations. And you know, even though I gambled are who would I believe should be there is it doesn't have any professional games and especially know Stanley Cup playoff minutes that on the other side is not so bad if if we get to vasilevskiy and somebody else can't somebody else has to come in like I think his name is Scott Wedgewood and Thursday other guy, huh isn't mcelhenny or something. Yeah. Yeah, Lenny's on there too. So they have three they have three goaltenders in the bubble right now. So I think it's got Wedgewood signed with them and log. The primary backup would be mcelhenny. So but we can get to those guys too. But I mean vasculopathy is just one of those freaking ages. That is so good that he probably he's at the top of the the voting for The Vezina alongside to go ask who I don't care about people's opinion. I think he should still be know. You know, I'm honored for for that and what take here from hot take Mark all read most of the black and gold hockey broadcasts got a little cough right now, but still think I even if the Bruins win Stanley Cup too good roster to get his Inscribed into that ring because he did play majority of that season that he was contract early obligated to do and that's enough games in my opinion to be a contribution. So well, I think Jake from the NHL rules I believe is 25 games or something like that. He's in in soccer. It might be a little something like that cuz that's why they petitioned from home to be on the cop cuz he he played enough games, but that's another that's another narrative how though is is all he quit on his team or he chose the left leave the bubble. He shouldn't be even close to that Stanley Cup when they win it and I was like wrong wrong. Look opinions are like, you know what? I know. I know you live in a world where that's all there is no way that being said, you know, it's not just opinions but it's also good factually based writing is from all the awesome writers at the black and gold hockey podcast. What? What is the website again? A black and gold hockey.com. I get confused even though it's right there in front of my face as we do this. So Mach already. Can you please cuz we keep saying we're going to do it and we finally are on our game. Can you please give a shout out to all the awesome writers? As you said? I've been putting out different articles Maria put on an article on the hillock situation Lala just got yeah. It's been an unbelievable ride and with a growing so much and we've gained so many talented people from all aspects from new writers two young kids that are in college and and doing their their school thing and and and ride now, uh, coattails of the credentials that we have with the Providence Bruins. We have a nice little schedule with some folks that go down there also to get into the realm of thought of you know, interviewing players and so on but just so want to go through the list cuz I've been meaning to do this a lot and and I'm sorry that I keep forgetting but it's just been so hectic but yep. Start from the top with Andrew lindroth Andrew just joined us not too long ago and he runs our new at black and gold hockey in stock account. Please go to Instagram and follow at black and gold hockey. It is an unbelievable thing so far, we've gained so many. I think it's been live for two or three days. We've already got like I think 130 followers. So that's pretty cool Brian ball. He just joined us wrote an article today. He's an analytics guy very happy to have them going to do some college hockey stuff and some prospects stuff Brian Murphy Brian Murphy is he came from actually NBC and which is really freaking cool. So glad to have him a boy. He's been back together some really good pieces Carrie young Carrie young is in fantastic writer. She is one of those members that does the rotation of HL credentials wage. So she's awesome. And she does a great job on the Articles and coverage when needed down in Providence at the dunk Cameron. Young is our YouTube Creator and he's done a fantastic job doing game Sims on the NHL 20. So that's pretty freaking cool. And he's also getting a little bit of writing and we have future projects set up for him. So we got Maria from Watertown Maria from Watertown is a constant kala to Boston sports radio, very smart and knowledgeable Bruins fan passionate passionate and happy to have her with us. She's a writer and she's also coming out with a podcast in that podcast was going to be called Bruins hockey talk with Maria from Watertown. And so that's pretty cool. It's Jack man. I'm not going to I'm not going to get this name Jack. I love you brother. He's he's new and he's a good writer from the Tennessee area actually so long Another Jack in the book is Jack got sell jack russell writes about pretty much everything Boston Bruins related. He loves covering the NHL and the prospects. He's been busting a since he joined a couple of weeks ago. So welcome aboard Jack and he's also part of the tops off hockey scene, which is cool with their streams and everything over there. So big fan club house key. He's been with us for a while and he does a fantastic job doing jersey numbers. He's got a serious going on about that. So a little bit of a an article about who wore what number and and how significant it was throughout history. Josh Harris is a new member. Welcome a lot. Welcome aboard Josh Leon light should see another analytical a writer and he graduated from the University of Vermont and he's he's he's doing really good and he really getting close to publishing on his own birth. Pearson is another one has been with us for a long time does a fantastic job lady Anne Murray as it is. She's a a writer out of Main and does a fantastic job with the numbers and analytics page Michael digregorio is another writer that just covers everything of interest and and breaking news Mike Crotty senior writer. Mike Crotty has been with us for a long time. He's just another war with us and and I recent graduate of Merrimack College passed a girl Lizzie. She's another writer that does a lot of gave pregame pregame previews and post-game updates Patrick Donnelly is there for our breaking news. He does a fantastic job on that guy works really hard with us having Michael. He's another one that does some really fun Bruins related articles that are relevant when it comes to you know, the lighter side of life. Tim Richardson, he's my boy on the black and gold hockey podcast Prospect Report podcast. And he also covers the Providence Bruins on the regular way. He does a great series with with Prospect reports Max Maineville, another senior writer that's been with us for a very long time 210 posts guys been killing it, but great to have maximum and he covers a bunch of different stuff Thomas nice room is our last writer and he's also one of the most important people here at black and gold hockey as he is the IT guy that makes everything all here the picture you see behind me the website podcast stuff advertising merchandising the guys just a solid member and I will never forget his contributions and his continued contributions. So and that's everybody man. So shout out to everybody that's been with us for a long time. That makes us successful. Back then and even today it's been it's been fun and will continue to grow we're official company were legitimate Sports media entity and I'm happy to walk talk to anybody that wants to come on with growing with doing this with doing that shaking and rolling here, you know, so it's it's a fun time. So get involved if you want his thought it was an important time to recognize the crew that helps keep blackandgold.com together a black mold hockey.com together and you guys do great writings and everything and not everyone's on board. I hope everyone's staying on board and hopefully you said it's going to be a wild ride. Why marks literally all his hard work is finally paying off. So love it. I love it off. Thank you everybody. Thank you everybody that does everything here. It's just unbelievable Round of Applause for you guys. You deserve it. Sorry. I can't clap lot. I don't know why I'm can't seem to be making noise with my clapping. But yeah, no good job. It's not just you guys working way harder than I do. I just show up and do this on Thursday. But all right that being said and also these are some a lot of topics sometimes, you know, you can always find these guys probably have written someone has written an article about any of the things we talked about which is obviously just cuz that's what the hockey talk is of the week. So you can always look for more info if you search for their articles and stuff that being said, we have a few more like life topics and then that are happening. Let's get through those. Yeah coblaco is loaned out to a Czech team. They start next month playing this check on a league. He's playing for Hockey Club energy level very I don't I can't confirm it deny that because I don't know check that well, but that would be my best guess on how to say Thursday. And the age L doesn't start until the summer. So basically the Bruins gave him permission to go and play for this other club. Which what's say you missed a prospect man. What do you think good thoughts. This is a solid move for both the player and the organization moving forward and his development and the numbers are definitely down over the Czech Republic. They pretty much got a nice whole what's going on? And they're probably not going to do the whole fan thing either. So, you know containing everything is going to be a lot safer. But but at this point it's more or less about keeping his legs rolling and keep keep developing properly. So and this is also an area that can go because believe it or not. The AHL has not said installing it they're coming back. They are targeting Arjun December 4th return but we will see what happens right there. Yep. So, all right. Yeah. I'm just doing a time. We'll get back stop. Stop me over after that. Okay? All right, you're ready. Whenever you're ready just count yourself out to finish up what you're saying 3 to 1 a.m. I did I was waiting for you to jump in. Okay shape has changed the topic cuz I was coughing. Okay. Well, that's what I was going to do. But then you really looked like you were in distress and not just needed a sip so that's all right already. So you good I don't want to do you know me I've been there was a coughing fits why we're closed every time I happened I lose I lose train of thought. So if you just want to take over. Go on to another topic, that's fine. All right. Well, why don't I okay. So 3 to 1 so yeah development wise that's a good idea to be able to let him get some reps in Juneau be some different. You know, he he got injured right when it was the world the world's or whatever so he didn't get to really play for his country. But this is good to get back kind of home training and not just sitting idly by with all the restrictions that are still floating around the States and Canada on training and whatnot last season. He was injured before the world juniors Gunther's Like healthy, he has terrible Year. My health wise not not playing wise injured early in the AHL season as a rookie. I came back healthy enough to participate in the world juniors that happen in the middle of the the hockey season. Annually. I played one game. I think he was only in there for seconds maybe a minute and then tore something and it was it was completely out of that tournament and then came back and then obviously the The Cove It crap happened and dead-ended, you know, but it allowed him to recover from his injury. So and this allows him to keep going which is going to be important for his development. And when Camp is ready and we're up and running. We have a solid plan of she'll be back. But if there's any step back in the plan of the AHL coming back, I mean returning, you know, he'll he can still continue over there with the club that he's technically loan to air quotes in that is important part. I'm sorry. I don't mean to interrupt. This is also the same situation that's going on with Viktor Berglund like the Berglund signed previously an entry-level deal over in the Swedish league and was going to come over but opted to stay over there to keep moving because again Sweden check out In those areas of Eastern Europe are the numbers are down. So there are more apt to have a full season and not be waiting on what's going on with such a a population in during a pandemic. So I just want to throw that and I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt, you know, no worries finish your thought. You know, I'm not you know me. I'm an interrupter. I'm not going to fault you on interesting. I was going to say for his injury. It's good too because he can get real game situation and see how I mean obviously he was recovered but then there's been all these restrictions not working when I don't know where he's specifically been if he's been home and he can you know, obviously we know they can work out and when he's playing where he's playing also is important because it's an adult league. It's not a Junior League. Yeah. So it's like being in the AHL just not the AHL you get you just want some real competition gives me so the Bruins signed I get I forgot I should know how to say this kid's game. But I never remember I thought it was Phillippe, but I was like in my head because I took so many as a Spanish. I want to say Felipe and I know that's not right. Anyways, he's from Lynnfield Mass North Shore kids shock. Arborland a kid from the North Shore or the South Shore or Worcester County. I don't know. It was just you know, the Bruins those wheel of Homer's but he was originally 67th overall draft pick by Caroline came to your entry-level played for the Huskies Northeastern all four years, right and play from Malden Catholic, which if you're not from here as a Powerhouse in the Boston area of high school hockey teams kind of the standard of perennial Powerhouse hockey programs, and he was a free agent on the 15th. So we signed a what say you what do you think about having a matte black fella be on board? Well at first and foremost, I'm not familiar with Matt and and his work over at Northeastern. I know that they recently won two straight bean pot wage. Pretty impressive. You know, how are you but I do have to give a ton of credit to Black and Gold hockey.com writer who has been around for a while. I get my breaking news guy that I can go to for those quick fast articles that need to get out there as soon as possible Patrick Donnelly Boston University student and he grew up with Matt and he requested that he take that article because he knows the person and he went to school with them. They they both graduated from Malden Catholic and went on to go to college. So in the Boston area, so Pat shout out to him you can go find that article at black and gold hockey.com. Just doing a search for what's his name? Matt filippi, and and I'm sure it'll come right up with pats article and he did a great job adding some video and some some insight about what type of player Matt is and what he brings and obviously wasn't happy with the Carolinas situation and held out a little bit and everyone's came in and swoops it up. So two wins this year for the Bruins against Carolina. All right. So thus morning you are all up in a Twitter about jail each and interviewing potentially in Pittsburgh. I know you I mean, we all know who J leeches if you're a from, you know, a Bruins fan in from around this area, but I know how you feel about him as a coach and how do you feel about this has potential month Pittsburgh and leaving the Providence system? Well, it it's it's it's it's not shocking to be honest with you. I mean jail each is just one of those types of coaches that wage. It has that development mentality and has had he's been running the Bruins development camps at Warrior Ice Arena for the past three seasons and has done a fantastic job working with these young players, whether their Camp invites or actual prospects or even two-way deals that get the invitation to be around J. Just leaves a lasting impression about what it means to be a player's type of coach and there's it's not shocking that the Pittsburgh Penguins have been interested and I'm hearing from a source out of the Pittsburgh area that are close to the that cover the the the Penguins on the regular that he's a leading candidate because they have worked together jail each has worked with with current head coach for the Pittsburgh Penguins, Mike Sullivan. They were both in Wilkes-Barre Scranton doing the top minor Pro affiliate of the Pittsburgh Penguins game. So, you know, obviously J lost that job to I had his name Clark donatelli. I believe it is dead. And that's when Jay signed with the the Boston Bruins before the 2017-18 campaign to start his tenure in the with the Rhode Island franchise off and Jason a really good job. I mean, he's got a I think the numbers I have right here are in 214 career games as the project is Roland head coach. He's got a 121 wind 71 losses 14 and 8 record. So Club 21 71 14 and 8 record in three seasons. So I think that's pretty impressive and I think that's a very attractive person that can be in the system. Anywhere in you know any capacity with a team like Pittsburgh, but now that another guy got fired today and in the Washington system that also opens up an opportunity to be an assistant elsewhere if the whole Pittsburgh thing doesn't work out for for Jay Leach because he is I believe it or not. He is a very high commodity. I mean he was he was heavily looked at because he was a football player and organizational member with the New Jersey Devils and when they were looking for a coach it was very very rumored that he was involved in those discussions for few sure, you know bench bosses. So, you know, Jay says, he's a good guy. He's a great interview. He's the type of coach that just lets it on the line and let you know about it and he doesn't care if you're a player or you're the media I enjoy talking to Jay because I honestly when I when I asked him a question, I feel I get the most honest and best answer from him not sugar coat it. That's good. So if he does move on it's on to bigger and better things for him. But but but Heather, I honestly I mean it's going to suck to see him go. The organization is going to check to see this and the players themselves. You know what I mean? That that is the biggest thing. I think I heard from this source is the biggest thing that he's he's treading on right now. He's like the opportunity to go somewhere legitimately is is with Pittsburgh or should I wait my time in Boston so that it's it's it's mulling him pretty heavy. So regardless best of lots of jail each and it's been a pleasure meeting you talking to you and and watching you construct this this team for the last three seasons if in fact he is moved. Yeah, we're not trying to like death moratorium here like he not at all Providence is coach still he's just weighing his options professionally and there's nothing wrong with that. Best if he moves on maybe he'll still be, you know, heading the bench down and Providence or maybe not even actual Providence. Okay, so I just need to can we just circle to Mike Milbury for 2 seconds? Yes, you can and cannae circle down here so I can use the the men's room please. No, that's fine. Yeah, you go on your round right in I'm going to just I mean everyone's been talking about it. I'm going to do my rant. That's fine abandoned me. I don't think so. Mike Milbury obviously said stupid things on TV and it has been a crazy crazy week of people cancel versus you know, whatever Domino's embarrasses whatever John feuling and said if you think about it, it's terrific environment is regard to if you're enjoy playing and enjoying being with your teammates for long periods of time and it's the perfect place for Lennon said and then nobody responded not even any women here to disrupt your concentration. So obviously everyone flipped Doubt on Twitter. I'm not going to lie. I might have been annoyed just because I'm not I believe in social justice. I don't believe in thinking everything is offensive in whatever and I do actually think if you don't have a backbone as why you would be like, I don't know. I don't feel he was trying to disrespect the great women in the sport who do great things a lot of great writers, and I don't certainly don't want to go to head-to-head with them. I'm speaking as one woman. So I got a little annoyed and said on whether if someone was as someone with a vagina, I have to say some of you waste too much time worrying about the dumbshit that might mailbox says he doesn't make you know too much about it just makes you hyper sensitive and having too much time on your hands might go no barriers and harming anyone but himself and if anyone is offended about it, I could care less when I was born women couldn't take credit cards and I wouldn't even have credit cards without their husbands permission. And that's what actual oppression looks like. I do not think now I do not disagree wage. That might know very says stupid misogynistic shit. Okay, but I do not think that Mike Milbury is actually harmful. Like I feel he's grumpy and disrespectful to everyone right page. Tell Mike Milbury is good bad or ugly, right? A lot of people I saw like defending Kathryn Tappen and how he treated her hair. Well, I also as much as I love Kathryn Tappen would also like say Kathryn Tappen made our own mess in Boston, too when she was here a little bit with wage or whatever with behaviors to so as much as I love Kathleen tap and you don't get to me on the national broadcast with the boys without having some type of Falls in that like we sat like with her with even with the Jeremy Roenick thing. I cannot believe that I'm sorry women and I don't think that's why we burn bras and I don't think that's how we got the right to vote suffragists literally died. You know what I mean? If they got it, you know, I've had to do a job abroad two months ago at work not to my face but in as much like under his breath or whatever, you know what I did I get offended know I'm just you know, I'm not abroad and maybe you should be a lot more aware of how you speak about other people kind of thing just for me. I don't know so there are a lot of people who freaked out. I do not think might Mulberry was referring to women like all of a sudden became a year. Offending you like Oh, no, you're attacking the women in the bubble know he's making a comment that if you get young men with booze their buddies and women around they are going to be fucking distracted. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm not even gay boys like boobs. I'm just saying like it's just as much as I believe men and women are equal. We are different in our brains work differently and I do believe when you put a bunch of testosterone room in a room and a girl and suck distracted should happen. You just I'm already on the focus. I've never had mentioned it. I'm already out of things to talk about and you've known me a whole lives. I am all about equality and people and everyone fuck off and be themselves, but we are too crazy with the cancel culture not in like I it's cuz it's called liquid know. I don't know whether all my whole life. Now that being said people it's not about being politics. I will vote who the best candidate is. I'm not like, you know tried like stuck, but I also birth It's counterproductive to worry about canceling Mike Milbury when there's like real world should happening. Like I saw someone post earlier about how he likes. These fucking people from getting beat up only bigoted assholes. Like, you know what I mean? And God is like broken up like they're real world ship going on right now and honestly Eleanor Roosevelt said something along the lines is no one can make you feel small exactly yourself or inferior except for yourself, and I personally don't feel offended or sensitive to that because I'm like, oh you misogynist douchebag. Like I just thought I don't know. Maybe I'm not trying to disrespect anyone who is on like the feminist train, but I believe in feminism and equality. I also think that That's not quite how he mended but I also don't think he's wrong and I don't think he meant Sarah Civ and all of them are distracting. Like I think he means when you pull your wife and kids into the situation, you're going to be a little distracted. I'm doing this podcast by my kids. I'm just sick. So that was and of course it was all the bullshit like you I apologize for my comments and the NHL we are offended by his comment know you're offended because people are offended now you need to be offended cuz you're worried about your sponsorship. Now the NHL's worried about the overall lock now, I don't think Mike bilberry needs to be canceled people. I'm sorry. He's just took out also like to point out most of the NBC broadcast team is horrible. So this idea that just of Mike Milbury says stupid dumb shit doesn't ignore the fact that half everyone else is also dull and boring. So, you know, just just like in life. We need the roenick's in the military assholes gotten comments in the world. I like I was dead. All right. So that was the know very went. So we have a couple more spngs. Are you ready? Mark already ordered fire style. Let's do it has tag B&G just for the record always send us them. You know what I mean? Just like whatever sweet one of us and we don't need to ask about it. Just do it just do it. Although we will send up things. So bruman want a grooming one had said for the small sample size to this point in the car off like a smart once Tanika should stay in the lineup McEvoy to the stud has Jake debrusk earned his right to Garner six million dollar a six-million-dollar. Which is of course five or six is what people are saying on the market. I still say no siding crew needs to be taken care of. There was also another question that was sort of like that Jamie thought maybe I think so don't be changed by writing. I normally have good handwriting. I can't I think it was a said how much do are you giving too Brusque if you are Sweeney Todd One more time Circle back to Jake debrusk and his contract and I obviously think Tori Bruce more important but I also really loved Jake debrusk. So you go 3.5 for nothing more than that. I don't see that he hasn't shown me anything. So he's going to have a show me contract. So we'll see what happens with that moving forward, but I don't see him asking big money. I think that it'll all get talked down because we know how Sweeney is a sweetness sweetness and gets things happening. So never mind what the agent says mind when is sit down and actually talk about it. I didn't Jake debrusk is 352 for just cuz of the Galaga game para things. I think we've already we've already done our products. I can't remember exactly what he said, but I pretty much am not wavering from that we talked about how we think that he should get more York cuz he's done his time good bad or ugly and I think Jake differences also not an idiot. It is a weird market right now. He is he is valuable as an asset. I mean so you can go out there and get some money. He's probably not getting six million. But why would if he can get 3 5 4 3 2 4 years or whatever and then do another contract in a few years when he's done developing fully off his like, you know hockey Prime. Why would you not want to do that? He loves working with David. Krejci. It's a great route, you know, everyone seems to love him. He's like everyone's little brother. And so that just seems silly to me. So I I'm saying 3524 maybe Max, but that's only depending on money obviously signing the other people. We also have to finish signing up if we'd like to Okay, sorry. Okay, next one. That's was from Maria from Watertown playoff David. Krejci cuz David. Home but for her Charlie Coyle has been outstanding. He's fairly are starting himself as a leader on the defense any more thoughts. We would kind talks about we do agree with Maria Charlie. Mcavoy's to become a guide of what are your thoughts do you have for Miss Maria of Watertown? I'm a big fan of of coil playoff hockey. We have a cliff be lucky and so on and let's check oil playoff hockey. He seems to be stepping up. The last three seasons have been with the Bruins in the policies and then and placed. He just he grape possession skills. His office is going to come is offensive numbers going to come hopefully sooner or later, but you cannot deny how U protects the puck and how he makes his linemates better. Obviously Richie dead. Is a Buick yes. Yes on the line up tonight and possibly moving forward if that line is impressive to the Bruins brass. So absolutely. Yeah in charge of way is a total studies finally starting to like we said, I think we've talked about this he's using all his best skills together into being able to transition between them without having to do one or the other or whatever and I don't care that head on Jordan Staal was a perfectly legal head. He wasn't trying to kill him because he cracked the next day. He was fine even I know but they they were reaching like I do not believe that Charles was trying to kill What's his name? Sergachev? No semester off. I'm getting him confused with surrogates. I've never mind right now, but I can't keep the Russian straight. So that's all the s p n g. So as a wrap up as always. No, I'm not messing around. What did I tell you two hundred reviews by Mark's 200th episode are two hundred episode here of the podcast, which is nine episodes away now Eight Episodes away almost cuz we're talk so long to the next episode at this point. So make sure you go great review, please good bad or ugly. 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216: Bruins Are Playing Well & Near The Top Of The NHL But Need To Find A Way To Solve The Islanders

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216: Bruins Are Playing Well & Near The Top Of The NHL But Need To Find A Way To Solve The Islanders

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So I am absolutely thrilled every week to be joined by a beautiful woman Heather ingerson and Heather healthy and happy Valentine's Day. Hope everything is good with you. Oh happy Valentine's Day to brother. That was very nice of you. Yes. Happy Valentine's Day to you guys. And yeah, you know Sunday Bruins hockey when are lying you guys for the Islanders game, but that's okay. And yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's get our guests in here. Absolutely. And another beautiful Bruins fan is Maria from Watertown. We are so happy to have them are dead. Back on the program. She's a good friend of ours and a great hockey knowledge out there and pump to have her voice. So welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Happy Valentine's Day to both of you. Hope you sweethearts were very sweet to you today. Thank you for having me back. I'm stoked and excited to be to be back talking talking some hockey. Absolutely. We're we're so happy to have you back and I'm glad to hear that you're doing well, but before we get on the Bruins hockey talk I do want to mention that today is the day that we're giving away a sign off and Gerry cheevers Jersey. So please stay to the end when we announced the winner and it's going to be assigned Park this week for our weekly giveaways. Not sure which one's going to be. Yep. I have a ton of Foxy are so I'll pick a nice one and send it out to the winner. But before we do that, we do have to talk about co-sponsored betonline.ag. Betonline.ag is the fastest and easiest way to bed. All your Sports Action football might be over by NBA college basketball in the NHL are in full swing BetOnline even covers Awards T shows and reality T V real time update odds and prop it almost anything. You can imagine betonline.ag has you covered from all the newest scores and odds. 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I mean Courtney is lucky cuz she gets two hours by herself. That's our Valentine Day to her and two other girls giraffe. Well start off like we kind of do General recap. We played two games of the Rangers Wednesday and Friday to very kind of tale of two different kind of games, but just generally speaking let's talk about some things like the prospect back rows goes back, but numbers is not back anymore. Suddenly and we're playing rotating defense again. Talk about Tuka what's going on with him and let's kind of recap the Rangers first name. Now's lattuca Oh, I thought we were behind and they were pulling me game. Go ahead. Very first year, I guess go right ahead. so my take on these games from from the perspective of the back-to-back standpoint. It just seems like you know, the first game of the back-to-back starts off kind of a little bit off well and a little bit of a feeling out type of scenario. And then once the players get a sense for what direction the game is going in. It seems like all of a sudden a see that damn the intensity hits and they wrapped it up there skating their playmaking. I actually like the intensity and kind of like the way some of the snarl that winds up building up for that second game of those of those back-to-backs. I don't know how you folks feel about that and I have to say I'm like some of the angry that carries over when and you know, kind of boils up to a little bit of the you know, the old school hockey the fisticuffs You know, I I missed that in hockey. I enjoy watching it and before people get all crazy and calling me barbaric. There's a certain aspect of time that needs to be in the game when it's done appropriately. I'm not saying you don't go out and not anybody's block off that comes near you but you know given that there were no fans in the stand and it's got to be so hard for these players to get ramped up without hearing a crowd if this is the way they want to do it then so be it because I'm enjoying watching it. Absolutely. I'm a big fan of this type of hockey myself because there's a lot of Bruins fans out there that are off from certain areas of time with a big bad Bruins was really prevalent. All right, and yeah, I used that one wrong, too, but This is the type of response that you need by internally. If you're if you're poking the bear you bring it right back in their face. This is not a need for the enforcer type or Ryan Reaves or anything like that when you can lean on a player like that to really help out later on in the playoffs if if you make it we're not talking about that right now. But yeah, what's happening internally is good signs of we don't need a player like that if this continues and like you said the snarl the aggressiveness the we're not going to be pushed around long. You're going to see a lot of this coming out in a lot more teams because we're going to be seeing these these clubs in this new division. So frequently that's going to be boiling over to some hockey that wage probably haven't seen in years and I'm I'm on board with it. I'm totally on board with it just to wrap up on the for me on the range of thing about Jake debrusk wage. Acting with a bee in his Bonnet and I hate to use that word because Jack Edwards does it all the time but no, he he looked like he was sharp and and a lot of folks saying that this was probably his best game in a in a while and then he really showed it. So he's buzzing around there. I took her ask what happened? I don't know. Did you eat a gummy guy before the game or the before the 3rd. Started? How how long I can you all imagine what the narrative would have been if the puck went in the net took a would have been eviscerated Eve disarray down from there wouldn't have been a speck of me left on his bone. If the Rangers had put the puck in the net tube. What are you doing? You gotta be better than that song. Well, I'm laughing because I'm going do you not also have the Giants scoreboard with the score on it that everybody else can see it's like right there. It's not like yeah, he well. He said he had to change something real quick here, right? You know, I mean, but at least it wasn't like, oh, I don't know what happened. He was like, yeah, man, I you know, excuse my language, but that was kind of funny to get back to like the old school thing. Like you said is like God that's kind of like obviously at varying degrees like we remember when hockey was like you did play people kind of closer to you only played the 18s or whatever you played you took them over and over and over again a lot. It wasn't you played every team's x amount of time and in your division this many times and I agree with you Maria. I love fighting but when it's done, right, I don't like when it's just a fight just to have them fight. Like that's entertaining but like not what I need you need what like Mark said. It's the right time for a purpose. Like you said it fighting should be done right and if it is like let's get into it let off. What do you think on the Friday Night Fights who was better Frederick or Lowe's on? What do you think both great great a throwdowns. Who do you think won? Not long as you buy these on their respect? I've Gotta Give it to Lowe's on on that one. He was connecting really good man. He's a beast. Yeah. He's a beast. Yeah. I'm a Freddy fan too and everything but that was lausanne wage was just really connecting and he was looking at his punches looking at where to go Freddy to me. Sometimes just throws those Haymakers, but when he connects it's going to freaking hurt, you know, but yeah, I got to get those on on this one. Yeah that he was crazy in the Zone on that fight. I don't think it was Frederick's fault. I think his fight just didn't quite pan out the way it was probably in his own head, but like again two examples of Game to snip snip snip you know what? I mean things have already been building and there were a lot of penalties in that second game too. There was like thirty seven minutes. We spent in the Box. I mean, we're we're a little out of order on the agenda thing, but I guess bringing that up with the penalties should lausanne have gotten the extra misconduct. I might call it. Yeah, I'm not showing that off that call. Sorry Cassidy said he was told that Lowe's that he wouldn't stop fighting and I'm like, but everybody watching it knows it was like most fights are Fountains of fighting and then they break up respectively like I didn't see what's his name. I can't think of his name was she acts like I'm sorry. I apologize. But like it didn't look like he was trying to get away and break it up and then, you know dead. Army just kept well, I know like a crazy person like that didn't happen. Although I do think try and Friedrich what I kept going if they would have let him he was God. Okay. Well, you know what, I think happened. I think the rep looked at that and said, this is just my own personal opinion. Oh the big guy kicked the crap out of the smaller guy. So therefore we better throw extra time at him that that's what it looked like to me. Yeah. How about okay soda brass. He's looking good since he's been back. You know what? I mean? He's looking healthy. He's in the play-offs. What about what's up with Grizzly. Are we getting concerned about Matt? Grzelcyk being on the ice long enough to you know what? I mean? I mean as a short season and what do you think's going on? Is he getting more injuries or do you think maybe they're trying to get him back and maybe he's not quite ready. So it's like each week it and redo it. What do you guys thinks going on with Maddie Grizzly? Go ahead Maria we talked about wage. earlier we did and you know, obviously Chris Bullock is a key cog in this Bruins team this year, you know and you know, you don't want to dump a guy something but you know, he's obviously the torque 2.0 and I looked up a little stat on the Bruins power-play just to show how critical I think he is deemed to be in the last five or the Bruins have had 10 power-play opportunities. They are over zero power-play goals in the last last ten opportunities. So, this kid is needed in the lineup. Now, you know, I I called one of my regular, you know Sports Talk radio shows on Saturday and I asked for a beer and judging right you guys got have any inside information on what's going on with this kid. Is that the same injury, is it a different injury we concerned about his durability? And it's very unlike the Boston Bruins to to keep trying to put the kid back in the lineup if it's the same injury because they're dead. Modus operandi in the past is to hold a guide out sometimes, you know longer than we think they should hold the guy out. So, you know what he's saying anything but it's it's a little bit troubling at this point in time. Yeah, I don't almost seems like he's getting to a point where he's healthy enough to go out for pre-game skate, but then something happens something's either getting re-aggravated or it could be an injury. This is the these are the days of of the upper and lower body terms and it's so hard to figure out what is actually bothering him without being a part of the medical team. But yeah, I mean that's that right there is perfect fax that this team struggles without them regardless of The Narrative of the he's not a good defenseman and he probably should be in the lineup. Anyway, that's just from from a lot of the crazy folk out there. But this Matt grzelcyk ads of Great Value to this club and it's a he's an offensive defenseman and he's got good transitions. So that's always needed on on the back end in today's NHL. I think he probably got it because Bruce Cassidy had said he had a different injury. So like when he got her I came back and got her and he said it's a different in Jersey. Are that he had done in I think he had done it in practice actually done something in like aggravated. I can't quite remember. So I feel like he had whatever that was, but now he's got one that's like a nagging reoccurring one. You know what I mean? I mean, who knows they're not saying anything but Maria's right their MO is to keep you out longer if necessary, you know, I mean like I mean at this point, I think Andre cash back in the Czech Republic because you know know you really I'm just getting he's been around but you know what, I mean? Like they haven't even talked about him. They've only been Fielding the people who might be able to get on the ice age was like is so important and the thing about where is like is I've always said he's not Torey Krug, right but one of the arguments is that gridlock is a better defensive player than Torey Krug. It's like he's got some of it his offensive, you know what I mean? But he's better on his back end. So marked to your appointment. I agree with that like he's not a good defenseman. Like this is ridiculous. You're only saying that because everyone like no offense to the young kids they belong I'm great on defense, but that's cuz they're out in you know, he's out of your seeing them more and he hasn't been in long enough to fill back as rule to remember why you wanted him here and I wanted to protect like the whole time you've been here, you know, like please re-sign him police protect him like, you know, things like that. So I don't know. Hopefully he gets well soon because I don't you need to because it's a short season and like we need him to be healthy at least half the season so that he's ready for the playoffs for the durability aspect because he's not really a player that's often injured if he's injured. It's usually a game or two and then he's back in and he's not one of them was traditionally sex week kind of guys, so I don't know that's just something to look forward to okay besides Chuka being hilarious. What was up with the rock paper scissors saying with Marshawn is disadvantaged in 7 minutes stand off and I for one say this is the fun stuff that hockey players can do without talking out of turn or whatever just like I mean, he's sitting there taping his stick. Or whatever Marshawn just like stretching known as hip flexors or whatever. That was funny. I don't know if you guys enjoyed that cuz it was one of the best parts of said game. I think I absolutely I absolutely loved what I the explanation that I heard was that both guys are extremely superstitious and need to be the last one off the iceberg. And so that's what stirred up the standoff where they're both like looking at each other like which one of us is going to go because we both have the same Superstition and I thought it was awesome. I would love to see more glimpses of things like that, you know between the interactions between between the players, you know, we see we see a lot of it with the behalf to be series with the Bruins and having you know, a guy mic'd up here were there but that to me that was like laugh out loud stuff as far as I was concerned dead. Yeah, same here. I'm a big fan of stuff like that and and as a form of gold town and never Pearl barely hear out here Superstition is is Israel. And yeah when you when you get when you love your read posts and they save your ass once in a while you believe in that stuff, but I like to go I like the back and forth like you see videos of like wage Dallas Stars when they play the Winnipeg Jets and former Bruin Tyler Seguin and Mike scheifele, they have constantly doing stuff like that. So and it's funny that the they'll do the wrong says is but then when will lose and then we'll hop back out in the ice and jump back off again. So it's it's always good good fun NHL stuff. Yeah. I like to at the end wins Advantage out of like waved him off. Like remember there was a time someone had Brad Marchand one got kicked out of the game before it started. Oh, no, I am getting off the ice last cuz I just knocked you back into the thing. But yeah now that's a good phone number. Like, you know what? I mean? Like if this goes back to the argument, like hockey players are allowed to have personalities and maybe you got a balance it especially the generation that's social media, you know driven all the young kids but maybe management a little bit. There's nothing wrong with like whatever Brett burns like barbecuing steaks. I enjoy seeing Brett Burns steaks that he got off his Ranch in cooking, you know, like little things like that. Like you said we see with our team but it would be fun to see like, I'd love to see what the tkachuk brothers were saying to each other on the ice. That would be awesome. And you know what? I mean just like that kind of thing. So, all right that being that I did not get to watch off. Actually there is one that's on here kind of twice, but I believe it it applies to more towards the ranger situation and kind of some reviews that happened all week in the NHL. But with the TV angles are concerning like the review calls and about I know Maria you had mentioned that's right about you're done with video review like at this point like home. Stop with it. It's just not you know, it's not working or whatever. But for the especially that high stick goal for the Rangers like was that questionable because that or even just reviewing life. I've seen a few goals in the last week or two that clearly our goals, but they're called no goal and they let it stand but if you can see it hit you know what I mean in the net behind the line, I don't know. So anyways, what is your thoughts on that guy's? Okay. I'm done with it. I'm really really done with it it to me. It is borderline off. A farce and an embarrassment as far as I'm concerned to the game and to the players on the ice when you have all this technology, you had all this technology and you spend countless minutes going over something from each and every angle and you still don't get it right off then let's take it in the next step you realize that you've gotten it wrong. You come out after the fact and say God you got it wrong. Why can't you come out and say that during the course of the game and remedy the wrong and I'm specifically referring to offer something that happened between the Carolina Hurricanes and the Columbus Blue Jackets. Okay that to me was one of the biggest jokes that have occurred with video review. So you come out and you stay home. So the hockey world. Yes, we screwed up. Shouldn't have been the goal should have been called back the penalty the delay a game penalty should have been called back. So you only correct half of it. You come back at the end of the period and you say okay. We're going to wipe out the rest of the delay a game penalty, but we're still going to let the goal stand even though well like to go hand-in-hand and Columbus loses the game by one goal. And then John Tortorella can't even say a word about it because he's been Muslims believe. So if you even opens up his mouth and dares to criticise any NHL official anymore God only knows how much they're going to find him. But Patrick why they didn't came back and said that it was a bleepin joke and he's absolutely right. He's absolutely right. I would give you more credit. Any gel in any Joel officials if you came back at the end of the period and went over and said Mia culpa, we got the whole thing wrong. Dude, the penalties wiped out and the boss is coming off the board to that would have been the right thing to do. I don't understand any of this anymore for me. It's the technology that you talked about Maria a little while ago and and I get that this many different angles about this but there's an arena with no fans in it. You should be utilizing that space and putting a camera right on the goal-line to see how high a stick is or if it's above the shoulder in this instance. It wasn't we're talking about the the ranges one off but it was hit by a high stick and it was above the crossbar but it wasn't above the shoulders so that fact and and then the hit a Bruins player on the way. Down and then the ranger pushed it into the net I get that but if that if that was way back there you see the angles that they were looking at they were so far away that camera was like literally Center Ice. Where is this camera here here on the goal line to do all this justification. I don't get it either. That's one thing another choice. You know, my understanding is there's a freaking War Room in Toronto where they're looking at everything and and the screens are supposed to be huge from what I heard, maybe June but my God, if you're going to utilize video review, okay, and you got the officials looking on these little tablets and stuff will call Toronto get Jose, California call when you win saying sorry guys. You got it wrong. You got it wrong. You got it wrong. You need to fix it. But why bother doing it? Just just rely on the human on because we isn't that what we're still doing even with the technology. Yep. Exactly. I was going to say that it drives me nuts off. No Mark, you're not a big football person, but it's not like you've never watched it. So like football is a sport where they have everything is videotaped. They have drones they have like just three million camera angles. So when they review things like I'm not saying it's a sport that remedies it's issues. There's a way to challenge without really being, you know penalized there's the people who are on the field. Okay, they are paying attention off each other on it, right? Oh, you got that call wrong. You know what I mean this than that, I agree with you there supposed to be actual people whose jobs is to be reviewing all the footage and we're always told they get all angles. We might not see all the angles, right? Okay. And so then why can't you like you said come back if it was wrong say it was wrong if it was right? Why can't you provide, you know wage? Saying it was called no goal on the ice against Challenge and it really really was a goal. Why can't you just provide the secret footage to prove that or disprove it but in the case of Columbus, I cannot believe towards hasn't been fired because he's half a year and that is a like you said, they will crucify him if he opens his mouth about this stuff, but you're not like you said, it's not a remedy like you're making the situation worse actually how you resolve a large penalty issues and that is just ridiculous because it can't be that hard to determine if it was a goal no goal if it was high stick or not. You know what I don't need to change people's information to be tracked in the pucks. I need you to have like Mark said why can't there always be a camera embedded, you know what? I mean? There's gotta be a way with technology. Now, you can place a remote camera in the side of the boards with the plastic over it or whatever so you can see is it indeed, you know, like you said to remedy things like is it above the crossbar but below the shoulder did it go in and like dead? Just seems to me like the NHL they do like they want to do these crazy weird technological things, but they can't even handle simple review calls without making their case for why the league sucks. That sucks. That's just I guess my point if it don't do it at all and yeah, and you know the other thing that bothers me and and I don't think that I'm alone on this they don't even have the common courtesy for the cojones to give you an explanation, you know, and I've heard it many many times, you know, listening to broadcasts or listening to games on the stream these these guys are professionals. They're calling games right and they can't even be provided with the explanation from the officials about why a play went off that it went. So to me the NHL is as has got to be better. They they need to be better because if they don't improve upon this they're going to continue to call. To be like thoughts and line in in professional sports in terms of how they handle stuff like this. I'm sorry and I love Dan h o but you look like a bunch of Keystone Cops when you do things like this. So just real quick. There's not a lot to talk about Jersey hasn't played in a while. These are just our upcoming games this week. We supposed to play Jersey allegedly maybe if they're playing on the 18th, and then we're supposed to go to Lake Tahoe to play Philly. I just wanted to real quickly before we go. Do you think we're playing Jersey or do you think they still will be a 14 no idea. I mean this this entire Colvin situation is such such a moving Target. I don't even want to call it fluid because it doesn't even seem to be like right the right word to use but it's such a moving Target and write honestly, I would rather be dead. That the NHL and the devils are on the side of caution because you know right now the Bruins knock on wood haven't had any issues. That we have heard about related to covid-19 or having players on hold and I prefer to keep it that way and real quick per NHL rumors on a rumor daily. This is a guy's a pretty good source of information but still monitoring the Lake Tahoe game and the Flyers as of last contract to a league Source the NHL still expect to fly as to be there fluid situation. So just wanted to add that. Yeah. Yeah. Why why is NHL doing that way? You can have fans there. These players can't go out and do anything. So, you know, they're sending them to you know, a beautiful area that they won't even be able to offer like take advantage of being there. What are they doing? Why are we doing this? Cuz somebody needs to explain this to make cuz it's Network networks going to make a bunch of money on it and it's and it's good. It's a good negotiation tactic to get this next freaking TV deal coming up next season. It's all be fuddling to me. I agree with you. I don't my team and then they're talking maybe if the faith in Philly can't end up doing it to shove the Rangers there and I'm like thinking well that doesn't make sense. Now, you're endangering a totally different set of players because the ranges have been as far as if I know pretty good about the Cove it protocol anything else to and haven't had any I don't know we're going to we're going to circle back to the Islanders game, but real quickly when I talk about our lovely add read for blue juice. So, you know, it's about sex. We like sex ilike sex. I don't know if you guys like sex I think anyone over the age of you know, appropriate age like sex, but you know what happens sometimes the sex may not be so great because in your head, maybe you're like on the Breakaway and your bugs get game-winning goal and the Olympics or for the Stanley Cup or whatever and you can log Get the shot off that you want. 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It wasn't like, you know, when my BFF Nick Ritchie scored on the yarra. We didn't even talk about yarrow shut out versus the Rangers the other day right off Richie score in the lone goal honest wasn't that unassisted? I think to be in the Super style whatever but yesterday's game not so much right. So do you guys want to talk about the islands? We lost them and do you guys want to talk a little about the Islanders game again? I can't really throw it on this because I did not get to watch more than the 9-minute Recaps. So for me, I was a little concerned about the the the addition of John Moore over Connor Clifton. I'm and and believe me. I don't think the addition to, Clifton would have made any difference but it certainly didn't help the fact that John Moore hasn't played in a while. I think he needs to get some Rust scraped off. I think this is was one of those rotational games that and the back the back to home. Gives grades like a little more time to heal mend, whatever but I still think that, Clifton with more games and increased Confidence from the the coaching staff has been playing well and that's kind of hard to see him taken out of the lineup in favor of somebody who's been on the shelf and not really in the mix of of a a game-by-game offensive rotation. So I was just my thing the game was on I don't know it was just it was more 60-minute effort less less get desperation with the last ten minutes of the game. I think they really have to spread that whole thing out, especially when it comes down to the end of the season with points are premium. And I know that's every game this season but wage in the playoffs. So that's just my thought. Yeah, I guess is a this is a bit of a troubling pattern for the Bruins against the New York Islanders, you know, I don't know enough about the X's and O's of the game. But this Islanders team is a pain in the Bruins app and I'm going to start with j g freaking Pazzo who basically was, you know, he pretty much destroyed the Bruins last night single-handedly. Let let let's just start with that. The effort itself wasn't a bad effort. You know, they they they skate off well for the most part, I think they had some defensive breakdowns, but I think that was from top to bottom two they were scrambling around and their own end of it, which is not a good recipe for the Boston Bruins when they're you know, seemingly running around trying to chase the puck in their own in their own end, but you know, the the the fact that they can't figure out the New York Islanders is more problematic for me than the effort itself was. Yeah when I texted you or whatever and said did we did the Bruins at least when dead And you're like nope, and I was like course they didn't win we played the islands cuz that's ridiculous. Like it's just something about the island that they just especially they're they don't do well on Long Island. It's playing this team. I don't I don't know it as maybe it's the curse of Johnny Boychuk. Yeah. That's why I don't know. Yeah, so I'm not trying to belittle show me games. I'm just not positive they'll happen but it's supposed to be on Thursday versus the devil's they've only played nine games but there for three and two not too bad ten points for Thursday games they played but the Flyers continue to do well, so they're they played thirteen games too and they are on a one-game winning streak, but they're still 6 to until the last 10. So if that Lake Tahoe game goes off that should hopefully be a game against the Flyers, although besides the like come back action in the previous flyer series. I've been a little disappointing. With the Flyers Bruins cuz that was the Rivalry. I was most pump for and I feel like it's been like feel like the Rangers have been a dirty of series, you know, kind of nitty-gritty old school Series, so hopefully that will go off hopefully next Sunday. Well, actually you'll be doing double duty then if the Bruins play right because Providence plays next Sunday. I didn't even think about that. What time the Tahoe when what time is that game 3 p.m. And everybody have cable should be able to watch it cuz it's it should be on NBC those kind of games usually are well, I got many TVs in this in the studio. So I'll be able to probably do the live stream and watch that game too and and probably talked about on both. Who knows. Who knows? You know what I'm going to play here before? We let Mark give us maybe a little update about what's going on. Like I said, I'd like to carve out some time for me to just kind of give a general just of everyone everyone what's been going on with everyone but the big bees, you know, but I had sent out a pole about the 7th player cuz I saw someone else mentioned something like oh, yeah. It's not about the 7th player award. And I said so far, who is the seven-player when now you can only pick so many so I pick Trent Frederic Nick Ritchie Jeremy loves on and belief and Nessa guice. Let's face it until yesterday. Nestor had not let us down this whole entire season. So I still believe in Nesta. It's not your fault. It's probably my fault. I forgot to wear my socks. It was a little crazy and I didn't get them on before game time. But who do you think won? If you didn't see it? You're probably all shocked. I believe Ricky I said nasty if you have to ask me and I can't even believe I'm going to stay off. It's because I was so critical of this player after the Bruins got jumped out of the bubble last season Nick Ritchie. I can't I can't even believe I'm saying it but I got give the guy Kudos because he's been busting his butt and playing hard and you know going hard to the net all the things that we expected him to do when he was, you know, brought into the fold last season. So, you know at this point I'd have to I'd have to give my vote to him if I'm being asked me that everyone knows apparently it's a big controversy cuz I don't like necro T. So I apologize to all the Nick Ritchie lovers. Okay. It's okay again, I the funny thing is is like last week. I listen to I'm like, I didn't even offer anything bad. It was just so like, you know, like kind of haha, cuz everyone knows I've said I don't like him but I whatever so yeah he won with 48% but there were also like whatever like every month. I'm down. I mean, this is a fan base that half the fanbase things that they should trade their Wenzel winning fucking goaltender. So I don't even want to hear from you guys about my Nick Roti Jake. Okay, I didn't say Bobby or dining say Bobby Hall was better than some crazy shit like that. So everyone calmed down. Okay. Well, Twitter Heather know but that's why I sent you may find a Hobby People. Okay, you know like it's fine but there was some people that I got, you know, kind of yelled at for not having on here. So besides everyone really loving Nick Ritchie and wondering why I don't again, I'm a grown up. I don't have to explain you're allowed to not like apply it like like again, I mean, I don't want to be a jerk but I like Messi over Gretzky. That doesn't mean I don't recognize why everyone says, he's the great one thousand like Mark Messier better. It's just a style or whatever and I like them same thing come down and cry she's playing. Well, I didn't say he wasn't playing. Well, I was more saying I'm aggravated because he explained so well cuz he clearly can be better than dead. None of us were think you'd be at all because we couldn't see anything last year. You know, he felt like I said and I think I've also previously said Nick Croce lovers that he owed me two more good weeks of hockey and then we may even Stevens but everyone skipped that part I'm just saying if you're going to quote me out of context, don't forget everything I said so but I really got a bitch slap on not having Kevin Miller on this list. Okay, and someone even said he might win The Masters in and you know, what if he stays healthy you goddamn right? He should win The Masters then again, not my favorite, but he has worked his ass off. He has made it this far into his bonuses and has not been received. Thank goodness for him just generally as a human, you know have to go through another injury, you know, so I got yelled at for him zavora. I'm glad that sboros playing well cuz I like him and I've been yep. He's one of the young kids. I've been waiting around to pop up and see what's going on. But I'm saying everyone's vote should be counted everyone loves Kevin Miller and Nick Ritchie people have jobs. Mentioned that Brandon Carlo has been playing quietly good and just kind of sitting back and doing his thing. But I feel like that's what I expect Carlo to do exactly what Carlos doing. So, I don't know if he'd be a southern place near me. But yeah, I really got bitched slapped on the Kevin Miller. So I'm sorry. Like I said, I just wanted to throw in belief at Nestor next time. I throw it out and bought a month. I'll make sure to replace belief and Nestor with Kevin Miller. Okay. Can we all be friends again? Also someone mentioned Hours club halak. I don't want to not count their vote cuz you're not real, but I don't know if y'all wage above what I think you can do or he's just doing yarrow things that I know he can do. I don't know. How do you what what what was let's just clear up what the definition of the 7th player award is okay this it's not who's your favorite player or who's your favorite player behaved and it's not a popularity contest. It's very specific. The award is given and I'm reading right from the Bruins definition the awards given to a Bruins player who exceeds expectations and goes above and beyond the Call of Duty Now Kevin Miller, whatever my thoughts are about Kevin Miller of the Bruins brought him back great, but you know, what dude you have to show me that you can play an entire season and stay healthy for an entire season before I start giving you an offer like them. So, you know in your defense I've could see why he might not be there and the first go-round because you know, he needs to be able to show again dead. That he can exceed the expectation and to me maybe that means you plan a full season and staying healthy and contributing to the team regularly. That's just my two cents. Yeah, I just do that real quick. If something thank you. A lot of people voted like for 394 people voted. So thank you for voting in the fun little hole and according to I believe Paulie Walnuts. I need to do Penance of being trapped with 24 hours with Jack Edwards for not adding him to the West so he got ya back and like even worse being trapped in a room with Pierre McGuire saying Adam God, I'm twenty-four hours and you know how I feel sometimes like Jack Edwards. I love him cuz he's part of the family, but sometimes Uncle Johnny need you to be quiet, but that would be worse and I already have an issue with Peter McGuire. So his love for Adam Fox. Nothing gets out on Fox fine player, you know everybody wage Blaming everybody was complaining about it getting together Pierre McGuire. Okay, I'm sorry get it together Heather Angus in here in charge of this so mark, would you like to give us a little update? I know you're alive stream and the other day off and tried to catch a little bit of it. But the Providence Bruins are are off and running with their 2021 NHL season. They played in three games so far off on Friday, February 5th, they 1421 over the Bridgeport sound tigers on Thursday, February eleventh. They lost four did nothing to the Hartford Wolfpack and yesterday came from behind 5 to 3 when over the Bridgeport sound tigers and this is going to this is going to be repetitive folks. There's only three teams in this division. It is the profits grow and talk to both back and the bridge soundtigers. So these it's going to be a 2016 season. So like like up in the the NHL level you're going to see some nastiness when these teams are going to see each other so frequently but wage. The water good things that I'm seeing down except for that Thursday game against hi Fred. I thought the effort was there but it's capitalizing was a huge issue and Keith Kinkaid long been an age in NHL goaltender really stole show in this game. So I the Yahoo! Logo has been playing very well on there. He leads the team in three games and points. He's been all over the place with great passing good skating skills and a good a good mindset when it comes to moving north to south east to west. Jaka Sean's been really good at defense your whole back and nine has been really impressive in his first three games of the Season Jeremy swimming's been an up-and-down. I mean, he has a good first game and not so good game against Bridgeport, but they came back and got the victory. So he settled in nicely for his second career American Hockey League win as a rookie. But Jack's Anika was down in his first game gets into a fight after shoulder surgery. I thought that the timing of that was pretty rough, but he did not back down when a team needed to he thought Liberties were taken on him. So he went and got involved in it. And so, you know this a lot of good things down in Providence Robert. Lindsay has been playing. Well, Zach senyshyn has been playing. Well Oscar Steen. Wow, is he take a big leap this season and you know that's expected. So look for him to be in the mix when when some departures happen in the next year or two up at the NHL level big Nick wolf. He is as advertised. He's just a monster out there needs to walk to skating skills, but there's some other good shut down defensive style to his game. They're so yeah, the the next game for the Providence Bruins and these are all awkward times wage. Watch these games on a gel TV and the majority of these games. I will be live streaming. So you just check out my socials and YouTube live to to be a part of it and get in touch with them, you know, ask questions in the live chat. But Friday, February 19th is the 1:00 game at Bridgeport Sunday February 21st. It's a 1:00 game wage at Hartford and coming back home on the 25th at 1 p.m. As Bridgeport comes to Marlborough Massachusetts the New England Sports Center where the Providence Bruins are playing their home game Mark. How's the goaltending situation? It's like what I'm seeing from Jeremy's women coming out of the NCAA. I think that's his work ethic over the summer in preparation for the professional hockey and that level was good. He's very strong. I wasn't impressed with the Impala. Scheme when he dead. Came down to Providence and that Bridgeport voting up and shout out. There was one goal that I thought he had. It wasn't much traffic in front of him beat him blocker side, but he hasn't been playing at all. Either been on the the Bruins like third goaltender and just practicing and getting workouts and so on but no game action. And I think that that kind of affected him a little bit when he got off brought down to Providence to play in that game versus Hartford. So I think with more games you're going to see a better day invalid are and it's going to be a good Tandem and so on. I think that the the back into the they signed over the offseason Callum Booth should be the guy up in the in the NHL level as that David Ayers type of goaltender emergency the ebug they you know, while while Boulevard gets time down in in the American Hockey League to keep playing and keep crafting his skill young goaltender that needs to be playing and not just practicing in my opinion but off The goal-tending I believe is going to be it's going to be good. I think what we're going to looking at this as a sample size for the next year for the Boston Bruins to evaluate how valid are entertainment are going to look because the contract years and expiring contracts of Tuukka Rask and and jaroslav halak coming up this season. So whether they need a home all season down at the American Hockey League to evaluate or maybe a little extra time that might be indicative of what the Boston Bruins want to do with Iraq in Hawaii like later on whether signing raspa one more or two more years is beneficial to more development for these the next two tandem in my opinion. So am I answered your question Yeah, no. No, I'm the my curiosity is piqued simply because you know, we all know what we're we're two cups stands contractually at the end of June of this shortened season. So, you know, I'm a little not going to worry about it yet. But you know something to be kind of percolating in the bath. I'm sure Sweeney and Company are also contemplating where where that position is going to go for the future. Well, I'll tell you something right now Maria I have full faith. And what's going on. Now now A couple of years ago, I didn't have much faith in the goal-tending coaching. I Baba Center is a very good coach but the addition of Mike Dunham former nhler former Nashville Predator former Humane Alum his addition to the staff of Bob essensa has certainly paid dividends because I believe that the training wage Aspect of these goaltenders has been a top-notch and I think that if Mike Dunham was around while Malcolm suppan was in in town. I think that he he you would have gotten a better wage Malcolm Subhan and not just you know, let's take a chance on the waiver wire and have somebody else come in and take them Yeah that poor kid turned into a puddle. Yeah. It kind of makes me happy when I see him start acting like he started in Chicago or whatever, you know, like when he gets his chance cuz I do feel like sometimes the process like you talk about. Sometimes you just have to move of a prospect or whoever out of the particular system and a player can Thrive or even any player right? Like you always say Charlie Coyle, you didn't love him when he first got here either but you took him out of Minnesota whatever and he seems to have found a place to be in kind of open up more to a potential, you know, but look but look at jelly coils game on the right wing that is exactly the game that he played for the Minnesota Wild and that dog. Playing him wrong the same way exactly exactly why Charlie Coyle should not be a right winger on the Boston Bruins team. Plenty plenty plenty of things that you consider their. Well, yeah, just generally they'll write like use a player right if you have a player maybe sometimes it's not the player isn't meeting your expectations. Maybe you're just failing to use their skill-set appropriately to help them be the most successful. You know, like when you get a player don't you acquire them for what their skill-set is or whatever, you know what I mean? Yeah changed up a little so like down so we left him or like oh Charlie Coyle kind of struggle in the right, you know like that kind of play. Maybe we put them back in the middle. He'll be all right and turns out that is his place cuz even here he looks out of water if you move him to the page, I just don't worry be okay. That's that. And you know what if it's worth frustrated by you know, these these approaches sometimes where you know, you've got players, you know, you've got you know, someone who's a left shot defenseman and you move them to the other side or you know, our someone who's a natural right winger and you're moving to the other side. Can you imagine how frustrated that player must be feeling and you know, you just have to wonder does that frustration wage, you know, sometimes get into your head as well where you know a game after gain, you know, you might be here and criticism even though they say they you know, they shut out the noise, but let's face it, you know, especially Boston sometimes we're very long with that criticism, right? And you know, the the frustration has to start mounting where you just get to a point where it's like I can't seem to do anything right? You know you hope that it doesn't get to that point, but I don't know if you have there and it's like if you bring in a particular player for a particular skill set that pig. Clear internet skill-set. What is all the moving around stuff all the time? Yeah, like when they're very young you can kind of you know, cuz you're not fully developed again. There's really no natural anything. Nobody knew how to skate or play hockey and that's what you naturally ended up developing into and yeah, there are times like you might take a young kid, like how many sensors does the NHL need so sometimes you gotta take a center cap a left-wing to give him a shot or whatever to go forward. But yeah, then there are times when you're just like like every time I see coil on a wing I just know that I also don't like Sean kuraly. I feel like feels more comfortable to in the middle. I feel like he gets discombobulated when you move him out of his spot too far too, which is fine because you're really good at the spot you're at you're not home sometimes out of necessity. I that's the first you know what I mean that I said, I just want to know you said probably a half a dozen just to let you know. I can't keep track. I can't even think of my brain right? Yep. Turned out every time you do a ding. Okay, go ahead. You're the one will be annoyed by that and want to edit that sound out so have that it I bet that you quit doing that before I quit saying, you know what I mean wage, but In fairness to my brain today, I can't be responsible enough to try and not say it but I just realized I skipped a kind of important topic to flip back to so that can be next on our agenda and that is dead. Is this defense better without Some of the players that are still here obviously sharing group of the main guys. I don't know who else would that would be, you know what I mean? Even I guess specifically Sharon grubaugh back end of the defense, but also I guess you could make that argument Nordstrom was a big like PK got you know what I mean and defensive player for us. What are your thoughts on that guy's is it better with the changes or do you think it's just kind of a still a good team just in a different form? You know, what are your thoughts on the scene? I think it's still perfectly honest with you. You know, I think that's where maybe a quarter of a way through the season and for me personally, it's really hard for me to say that you're better defensively without the Dino Charge. You know, the the guy is you know, he's he's going to be a Hall of Fame player. And while these younger players have done much better than I expected them to do particularly on the PK cuz I believe the Bruins have one of the best Ki kaise in the league. I think they may have faltered a bit the last couple of days but you know, I'm still like let me wait and see cuz I think I need a bit of a bigger sample size at this at this point. Maybe that's you know, a chickenshit way of answering your question, but that's what I'm going with. Yeah. I'm I'm kind of in the same boat. It's I'm happy with the product. I'm seeing right now with the insertion of these young players, but I want to see more let's get 3/4 of a wait of the season right around that trade deadline marker. Let's use that as The Benchmark right there to see what we have now and if we stay off, You do address it later much like Maria said TD. Absolutely, but I'm you guys know that I'm a big youth guy. I liked like getting off players involved when they should be and departures happened. So the this this is creates opportunities for you know players to come up and improve it. In fact that they belong in the league and and evaluate for future, you know contracts. So I like what I'm seeing so far, but I do understand that, you know, haven't shower and its leadership around is a big hole that is being left right now, but I think that this is a good opportunity for somebody to take that tutelage that Chara gay passed down into a player like Charlie McAvoy who's always really looking like a leader on the back end and really, you know, taking that in stride, you know in small doses, but you can see that his game is picking up and you know birth If anything you could thanks Jarvis for some of the stuff that he's doing right now not like a better defense but it's a good defense in a lot better than I thought it was going to be. It's just a different defense. You know what I mean? It's getting used to a new players. It's the younger players have bumped up. I'm getting used to it. I bought my big thing is exactly what you said. Like, I'm not I'm not trying to like bring the championship belt with 13 games. Am I super happy that they played as well as they have Kevin Miller still. I didn't know it'd be Griz the one getting hurt but it turns out he's the injured defenseman this year, you know going in Sbarro and lausanne like that's part of why I put them on there and even though I you know, I mean, I don't prefer one to another but I like Sabor all as I've said in the past, but because Logan has had to walk in and be on the top pairing, you literally took place the Danish our guy literally replaced it in a jar. That's a lot of pressure my concern though is in the long run even in a shortened season and going through the grind of the playoffs and it's again know young kids fall off. We are going to if by trade deadline you can't still be just a good defense. You're going to have to be a defense that can ultimately take out another really top-notch team. That doesn't get better defense than you so if necessarily said I'm waiting to see if they're looking spectacular the kids keep blooming everything's wonderful all about saving the money till the offseason to get a player, you know in the off-season and just let it ride home. But if it starts to look struggle e as our defense does The Dominoes start falling one guy gets her at the other guy gets hurt. Usually the week before playoffs. You know, it's the domino effect. Then we've got a lot of people are going to have to not be upset. It's going to be painful. But in order to get something that we really really need to really like we talked about get that defenseman. That's young enough to still be like a headstrong bull, you know, but experienced enough to not mess it all up because I don't have enough experience and we can go get one of those guys. Even if it's just a help the kids cuz we don't know how exhausted but again, Maybe they can handle it just fine. But it's a wait-and-see still we're early even though we've played like a 21 20th of the Season. Yeah, it's all right, they're playing. Well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta be able to beat the Islanders though in the long run. Yeah, I'm not judging by yesterday. I'm just saying these are the teams that in the end if you need to go get somebody to maybe to help the young guys out that we have to do to so that was in there. But you added a topic inadvertently. Let's talk about Charlie McAvoy because now people who like should not be in Norris consideration. Let's let's take this on the other side of the brake. Well, let's see here from yeah. So pick this up the remind me will be right back. We're going to hear back from this is a the halfway point of the show. So this is the time that we bring in Bruce Sullivan of Boston Sports and music memorabilia. This is the place where I get all the hints signed jerseys for from birth. 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Here's one of the like 5 playlist whenever we had on the list. I know that lips don't really mean anything but that means he's got attention from the league if he's on the NHL network list, right and point-wise. You can't argue he's doing what we know. He can be I don't buy that Chara was holding him down. I think it's more he's twenty-four now and he's finally like we say this is when defenseman start really getting into their own they learn the game. They figured out of balance their offense in their defense, especially player like McAvoy cuz he's a you know, two way player just any thoughts on Charlie McAvoy. What do you guys think? Do you think he could be a serious Contender fee continues on this chair for them? A strophe I'm going to preface this by saying I love Charlie McAvoy love love love the kid and I wanted nothing but to see the training wheels come off that this kid could blossom and grow into the elite defenseman that he was touted to be all of those years that we were watching a play at the you. However, I still think he's got a little bit of growth left before we start talking about Norris Trophy our our other Awards. He he's he's he's coming into his own he's stepping into his own but I think before we start talking, you know, like, you know, I'm looking at a list here of defenseman in the NHL, you know, the the pro Barack kid from the Flyers, you know, Erik Karlsson, Victor Hedman. Yep. Charlie's Charlie's got a little bit of a way to go before we kind of moved him into that that company so to speak. I can definitely agree with that. I mean it's good to have the notoriety that you're you're one of the considered one of the better defensemen in the league and these rankings and so on. But yeah, I think it's a little premature right now too long. Let's let's you know the call and Norris or or get there. Who knows. I mean, there's still a ton of hockey to go it could happen but to set the pressure on Thursday and on a player like that moving forward I wouldn't do it but there's there's a hefty list of very experienced defenseman in this league that are still playing at a very very high level. So, you know, there's it's it's good company to be in regardless. Yeah. I know. I want that to motivate him. He needs to be, you know walk in my view he needs to be the defensive leader. For the Boston Brooke and if he wants to take a look at this list and say what do I need to do to elevate myself to be in the same company as long you know, the Brent Burns is and Alex pietrangelo is and Roman. Josi and Victor Hedman you go. Got you do what you got to do to get yourself there. That's I don't think he's going to win it this year, but it's nice to see him blossoming and relax and we always talk about like he he maybe he's had a hard time reconciling. Should he be playing more defensive? Should he be shooting the puck more? What should he came and he seems to have found his stride a little more. He's taken on me has always played good amount of minutes to be taken on more minutes now because he is the top guy now on the defense in essence by default, you know, whether he wants to he's not and but it's nice to see his ceiling starting to you know, he's starting to grow to the ceiling that we think that he may someday meet or blow away, but there's nothing wrong with being laid off. I was saying even like playing against John Carlson and Washington. He's a great player from McEvoy to watch how to be an offensive Powerhouse but also not be a defensive liability. Like you don't have to change one of the other Roman josi is of the world all of them Roman. Josi. I was like that came out weird. I thought I was going to say Roman Reigns for a limited sorry rain. But yeah, I just want to talk about McEvoy but I all she can we talk about this goaltending because as much as I understand the big controversy this week is me not loving Nick Ritchie the way everyone else does. I'm more concerned that this fanbase still does not understand how awesome and how blessed we are to have this goaltending tandem. Yahoo! Has played all situations. He's had a long career. He's been the starter The Backup backup starter like, you know, all the different situations and took is hookah. And even if you hate him, you can't say he's not in a legal tender and when you do your life, so what do you guys think? Well, wow. Let's call out the Boston Bruins fan base and let's call a spade a steak there. There's a group of people fans who suck from two carafes derangement syndrome and it doesn't matter. It's at this point into cuz career at this point of a fan base. It doesn't matter what Tuukka does even if the guy points the Stanley Cup over his head this group of people will say well. Yeah, they did it on a spike Tuukka, and I don't think Heather were ever going to get past. This pandum being given is just do because part of the tandem consists of Tuukka Rask fairly or unfairly. It's just not going to happen and took you know, you hear about guys on the NHL Network talk about this tandem all the time. It is still referred to as the best goaltending tandem bikes in the league Mark. What do you think? I know we can't convert the two computers cuz there is I love that Tuukka derangement syndrome because it really think you know, you're right. He could Hoist the cup and they'll be like, well, he should have done a five games. Like I don't know they'll always be an issue, you know, whatever but Mark, how do you feel about it? Like we are blessed are we not like, I know you love the goal-tending and you love to cook but yeah, that's right. Talk about it. Yeah, it's it's I don't get the narrative either just people just love hating. You know, I don't know. I feel very comfortable with who we have internet down. A year-to-year basis. It's not like it was in the back of the day when you had a revolving door in the crease with John Casey and the Byron defoe's and blah blah blah. You have something solid right now. Something is seriously work on and be happy about it. Be happy about the success that this certain individuals happen as a human being. He's a he's a leader in all statistics when it comes to Chris time in Boston Bruins organization. So I don't know it's getting old talking about it. But you know cuz we're not going to change anybody's mind. So yeah, you know, I I just I just wished that the fan base who has this narrative about Luca would just look honestly and objectively at goaltending off across the league and issues that other teams have had across the league and the fact that you know, we've had the luxury of having this, you know consistent job. And this consistent display consistent display of you know, solid solid goaltending. Yeah does does he have brain fart on Caucasian? Yes, he does. He doesn't have brain farts on occasion. But you know what? I always say is be careful what you wish for folks. Be careful what you wish for because isn't it better to have the known than the unknown at this point? And clearly the organization has made this commitment took to this particular player and has decided they want to ride this particular player out that the guides in that room seemed committed to this particular place who are weak who will read to make any determinations beyond that right? I don't know I get tired of defending him and if she's dead, Defending him but I have been critical of him as well when he doesn't have a good game. Right? I'm going to let you know that he doesn't have a good game. But I think the same criticism needs to also be leveled at Pollock as well. You know, there have been instances where both goalies have been up and both goalies have been down. It happened. But to to dump it all on one individual all the time, you know seems to me a bit, you know, maybe close-minded off. I think too that like we remember the struggle of golden. I mean we went like many years with every having a different goalie or goalie that like we had but I mean that somebody wasn't here as long as we've had plenty of good goaltending come through here, but not like spectacular goaltending. Do you know what I mean? In the last ten years? We were very spoiled right Tim Thomas played his ass, you know stood on his head to Bucharest has been great and consistent we've had decent backups with who do Ben and so, you know, we can even go back with Manny home, you know with Timmy and like I think that's part of what it is. Like I don't think people remember going through Byron Dafoe Gand no offense and when I you know, bling Lago is going to be our goaltender of the future and shit like that like people I don't think remember that. Do you know what I mean? It was like they don't remember when we used to have a lot of like good teams, but like not real competitive on the old dog. We had some Superstars and we could win games. We weren't winning cops, you know kind of thing. And I think that's part of it. I don't I don't know. I think it's maybe you just get sucked into your own market and you don't live outside your home. Don't see that even when I agree with you. I'm all for criticizing the player, you know, like if took out a bad game and there are things to criticize criticize that but you don't have to for thirty-five years remind Tuukka Rask how he let up with one soft goal and the second. Vs Philadelphia in 2009 or whatever, you know, just making up stuff but you know what I mean, so haha. Just kidding. I did that one on purpose just to annoy you mark So and it was a huge entertainment, right? All right. So Willie, o'ree he was going to have his number retired this month, but they pushed it back to next year on the anniversary of his first game. So now you will have the rafter it will go up in 2022, which is obviously fitting as he is Willie o'ree and the 22 going up there so that Jim Little update on that Mark. Why don't you tell us about this possible BNG live hockey podcast of regular game at this place in Newburyport. I I got in touch with somebody that works at a certain restaurant this details that are coming forth so we can still hashed and things out I want to make sure it's done safely and I want to make sure it's done in a time where we're all kind of getting all vaccinated and so on because I'm still panicked to go outside of my house or I pretty much go to work and go home every day. So that's my life. But once we get back to a little bit more normal Z this restaurant in Newburyport, Massachusetts has reached out and they want us to do a live program now, so that's going to be in the works. I'm not going to say the restaurant yet, but it's just something that we we'd love to do. It's close by we support local and so that's just something I wanted to bring up but stay tuned for something like that. I think this is going to be something that's going to be involved with them. People so it might be at a time later on in the year maybe towards the end of the season when people can actually come and enjoy the game and so on but we'll we'll have details further. Well, luckily the season doesn't even end till May. So here's hoping that most you know what I mean? Because people have had access that can get them to the vaccine by then stay off early, but I feel like once we get it, right this is going to pop off and everyone should be. All right personally. I'm expecting one around my birthday in June. So I just how I I fall on the list, it'll be you know, and they're like, yeah, but some of us won't get them until the summer and I'm all right with that because not I'm not afraid to leave my house. But I also certainly as you should be limiting the amount of time you spend outside of your immediate place down, right? Yeah, so that's good. All right. So now we have a couple we we don't try to get whatever we just want to get the word out about important things. So another reminder off Jay's Army to benefit AJ Quita and you can go AJ's Army, This is Ellen awesome t-shirts got like the Clover for Bishop Feehan and the school that he played off in attended and it's got like the lacrosse and the hockey stick. And so if you want to support that you have an update on a Cadence Crusaders that you started talking about the Ontario Riley's that went off. Yeah. I got a Jersey by Jersey hand signed jersey from Terry O'Reilly. It's really nice. But this one I bought specifically for a reason for as a fundraiser for cuz Heather and I are from Boston Massachusetts area and and and Cadence Crusaders physically touch with us cuz we know the people that were involved it's so we're doing a fundraiser to help spread awareness of pediatric cancer and we're working with them. I'm actually having lunch with one of the main members tomorrow and we're going to talk about further but it will be an article out for people to share. There will be a video while month. For so I can show images of Terry O'Reilly sign in the jersey and so on we're going to set a number and once like let's just say for instance if I'm picking $10, if you want to donate more than $10 that is absolutely well and good and we certainly appreciate that but it does not increase your chances on winning the Jersey every ten one donation. It goes as an entry and then we'll draw at the end of I think we're going to do possibly a month and half awesome two months and will maximize the availability of everybody donating and so on and then Thursday, it's a hundred percent non-profit. So we're going to give that money to them and just as a just supporting the local cause and a good cause and that so I think it's important. And if you'd like more information, you can go to Cadence Crusaders. They have a great Facebook site about events and things like that. If you'd like more information, unfortunately, this is another third one. But again, if you're looking to support things speaking of Childhood Cancer Center Duvall, who's from Andover young hockey player 11 years old. She also gave the North Shore vipers, which is one of the select teams. I think there's there's select team but I don't know exactly what they fall. You know, what they fall under but she passed away from leukemia off her friends and family and everyone has started a fund a scholarship fund. So that girls from Andover and the area can continue to have access to do things that she loved to dream and to keep inspiring young girls to dream bag and which is a great legacy to leave. You know, I don't want to give sad but it's always sad, you know Jaden every time I think about that and you go down it, but so yep. If you would like to they're also doing hashtags that are strong. If you want more information, you can find it. I'm sure on all the social media but there is a GoFundMe to support the scholarship. So please do that. I can if you want to if you will if you can and that's those three things. Is there anything else you guys can think of big topics before we do hashtag ask me if I feel like it was a quieter Place. We've had a couple of weeks and this week not so much. Oh good. So we only have a couple hashtag ass png's that's the wrong one. That was my phone. So Clovis Royal always give us very questions. Thank you. As always Clovis ask when Kasha gets healthy. Do we play him for a couple games and cross Our Fate off or cut our losses. Sorry. Let me start that again. When costly gets healthy. Do we play him for a couple of games and cut our losses or keep him and cross our fingers dead? Thank you Clovis. I'm sorry I messed up your question. I don't I don't know. I'm not a big Kasha guy. So I if if there's players playing better than him right now, I'd go with them. Don't fix. What's not broken. Yeah, I'm out on Kasia ho UT out. You know, I have yet to see the value-add of having this player in the lineup and I you know, you can say well how do you know that Maria because you haven't really seen a play but I'm with you mark, you know, I I think when players are playing wet and you've got a lineup that's working for you. I don't think that a player should get his or her spot back just because they're coming back from from an injury. That's just my mindset and particularly with this player. You haven't shown me anything even in the the short period of time that we've had an opportunity to watch you all around on the ice. So I'm like walk out at this juncture. I can go either way of caution. He's another plate like I haven't even seen enough of them. I mean, I think he should be scoring more. I mean there is a concern he is the player that can log Produced a lot of looks like kind of you know chances and stuff and like he does some things right what I've seen of them but the offensive side is not what we're looking for on the right side for David. Krejci life. That's going to be insistent where they want to keep him if he can come back but also be I agree with that Marie about not just earning a spot like I feel like Matt grzelcyk coming back and having his spot is different than ours has earned his spot just cuz he was traded for you know, but the real like we said last year is last week is that but certain players are getting played to be in this lineup. So you gotta kind of took him to to even try to maybe dumped him somewhere or whatever, you know, make the threshold to get rid of them in the in the draft or whatever. I don't know, you know, so that's just let me go to the Kraken. Yeah send them to the bracket a shame on the truck and no. Okay. That was weird. Oh, I just shot my thing off. Sorry about that. We have one from Nanook dead. A bitch says a good start by the Bruins with a young team, especially the D and teams playing many times eight not three or four in the season things can change quickly teams teams change approaches and they learn about their opposition players. Are you worried about some of the young players getting found out? I don't believe so, this is the right track track that this Boston Bruins organization is going on with the insertion of these younger players and this is audition years for them. So if it's not working out, like I said previous podcast use the effect of cap space to hammer your needs if you want experience a defenseman hammer it with a thirty-eight million dollar cap space you're going to have next season if you wanna get that sniper hammer it in the offseason with the available cap space. But if you're going to believe in your Youth and you love what you see in these auditions then address that appropriately but I thought The way that the youth is working so far, you know the the added benefit to get infusion of Youth when you talk about cap space or future needs is you're also given these players an opportunity to showcase themselves for themselves and for the organization. So, you know, if if there's a glaring need which you know, every team has a glaring need at the end of the season no matter know how well you play or whether or not you know, the Stanley Cup, then you've got tangible assets organization and and have potential value to Fifteen. I feel like they've probably for who are playing of seeing them enough they kind of know what's happening with the young kids. So for them being found out. I also think that the kids have shown they want a sponge has whether that's to eventually keep their spots in the roster, you know what I mean? And not just cuz of the crazy situation of ended up there some of them but no, I mean it is what it is they dead. Players, I mean they have footage they can look at Providence Brewing tapes if they really want to see what these players look like and they have 14 games of some of the young players not a look at so far. I mean, I think it's actually I like I said last year, I think it's last thing that they only have to play the same eight teams because they know their opponent better that way there's not as many people to have to know how to play and then you deal with that. Once you get in the rounds if you get to in the play-offs but between now and the first two runs the playoffs you're only worrying about opponents in your division. So I actually think that's good for these kids in a shortened season. Some of them are Under Fire they Rose to the occasion. But yeah, that's just that well, thank you. Those are the hashtag ass png's for this week. 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188: Fun Boston Bruins Discussion As we Prepare For The 2020 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs

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188: Fun Boston Bruins Discussion As we Prepare For The 2020 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs

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And Use Code C L v The Out of the way, I, need to come in hot with my friend my best friend, the best co host on this podcast have their English and welcome back my friend how are you doing? Hey, baby it's game day. Yeah. You Know I. Don't know I'm bouncing off the walls like a little energy model moves shaken. We got three hours puck drops record with you. We're going to get some content out. We're not going to be as serious as sometimes we get because today is hockey baby. Well, yesterday it was all hockey is heart from watching so much hockey, but my heart is full of joy. Yeah about online. Go put your bets down because things are all like donkey Kong babies dot and yesterday replied gray plug. Yeah. I. Mean Great to have the hockey back was an exciting week training camps ended with some exhibition games last week particularly the Bruins in Columbus got into action and then yesterday it was just a whirlwind of a madness hockey from noon till ten thirty at night. It was crazy but young I'm super stoked to be back in talking about hockey and not just raw trying to get topics out of out of the air just to get some content out for the show but. Superstar to be back ailing, got to watch the third period of the Pittsburgh Montreal game and So that was. Interesting Observation that was up. And Yeah. So today we're just GONNA we're. GonNa do it. We're going to get through our topics if that's what you want to call them, which can talk we're GonNa talk we're going get done. So hockey's back baby you want to start with the exhibition game in. Drop. The the bed online ad re let's do that. Now get the other way because I I'd like to get these done. Sooner rather than later butts. We do talk show spots online dot ag sports keep coming back. 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L. and as fifty when you check out all the odds and up to date sports news don't forget to sign up and take advantage of all the welcome back to Sports Bonuses Bet Online Dot AG online wagering experts so miss had. To do a little something, a little unorthodox because I'm typically the eleventh hour guy that is a totally unprepared. But you came in a hot today with the. Topic agenda in a in email sent. So I wanNA give you the four and why don't you set the tone for the topics and we'll just we'll just go from there. Young run. That's eighty right now still again, them sitting the sorry we might talk about at the end. Weird fan things like risotto like an dilemma. WHAT SCAR WHAT SCARF Ho. Stranger. Let's just take care of the actual business that really I mean, obviously, the boys we they flew to the Bobble, they would do in that last week when we talked they were in their little couple of videos out Charlie mcelroy's on a nice when they landed because of all the teams, the Bruins have had the least amount of light media fund this week and probably because they. Don't like wedding anything. So whatever like wearing the world has Kasha right? Okay. So let's talk about Thursday verse Columbus Though. Right around we both agree exhibition game not you know whatever would you agree overall Please knock off more russ before the puck drop a couple of hours. Yes. Yeah. I wasn't I mean it was like the burst action in so many months against another team. So. With that being said, is it not? Meeting go through two weeks of playing each other knowing your teammates, moves, and so on and getting prepared while you're trying to shake off said, rust actually played a pretty decent team but there was a lot of Defensive Meltdowns either in the defensive zone or either offensive coverage. Coming back for plays and so on. Hint Hint Chunk rally were your but anyway I mean, that's what it is with an exhibition game. It's more of a an evaluation to set your roster up for what you're actually GonNa be running and I know they have extra forward with them so they can do mismatch and and and that so. Not a great effort about RASP is a little. I hope hopefully he gets back in shape at it. Kind of makes me wonder what's going on with him. We'll talk about that later but not I mean overall decent game him out there but. They need to be better prepared exhibition and not I mean this is today at three o'clock. This is the real deal. And I agree with that I said I don't remember what it was. Maybe it was like sports or something I. Don't know like some hockey thing I was in said like sports thing said. Columbus like Bruce Bruins came out to play an exhibition game in. Columbus. Came out to play a hockey game and it's true and I'm not the brewing again it's an exhibition game people. No one's like panic mode. Obviously, no one's played hockey for a while it's a lot different playing against a team mates. I think we mentioned this last week I was a little surprised though about the skating I because we are Gr-. Great Skaters like just as an overall team. So just for me in the long run second line, alright like you were the only ones that seem to be playing like some sort of organized like hockey. Going on defense but again, I think I said to you last night like I'm not putting it on the six defencemen on wondering not mad at you. Matt grows like you had a good game wasn't really mad at anyone but I definitely was okay. Well, let's regroup. Go to practice making work on some of these things. But think they'll be all right and I'm not worried about seeding that kind of thing but you still WanNa make the best offer you gotta you know and like I said you or get I, texted you and I was like we're getting skated by Columbus really good team. You know I know they're a good team I like Columbus but I'll they shouldn't be escaping us they might should be out hitting US and they're hot out scoring us. There might be whatever blocking us but we were our own worst enemy the other. Day, which is fine. It was game one. You know in the bubble getting adjusted still and I'm sure by the time, it's the sixteen teams playing for the cop everything's GonNa. Be Honky Dory I just would like to see a little more I don't know the Bruins don't usually see that disorganized you know what I mean. They just seem a little disorganized and as long as they kind of work on that I'm sure Bush hasn't whatever they'll be fine but true exciting a though like you said, it counts today today counts towards points towards seating towards whatever but. You back on talk a little bit about It's been exhibition games yesterday on the first started the real like you said, rob plans, robbins dots today or whatever what you like so far what do you like and what do you do? You have any gripes and what do do you like for the like content that they? I mean it's a made for TV event at this point right? There's no what do what do you like and what do you not like blow talk about as like play goes so far but I'm just generally Like when you look at the arena when whatever like as a fan do you like the feel if you're going to have to watch it on TV with fans in the stands Kinda thing I said on twitter that and it was a a a real jab at the Long Island Island is the New York Islanders It's almost like watching a game at Barclay Center with the the car in the corner in all and but that's all the way around the arena I mean I I don't mind it. I don't mind at all I mean. I do like to see the kids in the signs into law in the stands when there is a whistle on intermission, it's all on but. Other than that I, think the NHL did a really good job setting everything up I think it's very I've friendly with for the goaltenders that they're not be a disturbed. By. I. Mean. They could see the puck and so one and not having fans waving their hands in the background and so on. So I mean something they should be used to anyway as professionals but. Overall the products been really good I'm you know the whole bubble hockey theory is is is really coming into its own and i. like it I mean, it's just I just hope that like we talked about last week, everybody's got to abide by the rules do what it takes to get it done and and and tried their best to win this thing and Obviously. Exhibition Game Wasn't a great start for the for the whole team get back together and play against another opponent but. I believe Cassidy coaching staff training staff are going to be more prepared for. PHILADELPHIA TODAY Yeah I really visually I. You don't know what to expect right first of all I. Think we should always keep the logo they have this year on San is it's way better than the Stanley Cup playoff. I just love that it says Stanley Cup Two Thousand and twenty right I love light it is like you know we were all like how they can really have the fans and we know like the Bruins and other teams like fans were sell it. You know sending things in and stuff like that. But I love like lake all day. Yesterday had like the view parties up on the screen with the zoom in late. I love that because the fans at home it like. There we are all they're watching it and they can them like that's fun. I. Think they've done a good job of. Still having their fans with them and they are a league that depends on their hands because like you know other ones have way more money in revenue to play with but like. They say you know hockey players are a different brain. So a hockey fans Jeremy, kinda thrown like they'll do whatever. Like when I saw Xanadu frigging commercial I was a callback God like I like I love that they have just things from every team like even though obviously it's Edmonton in Toronto's arenas. They've done an excellent job of making it everybody's arena with all the flags, the goal horns in their own songs or whatever, and I do think that it looks visually awesome. What about play though? Yes, it was a crazy crazy idols I'd say the Bruins on the only top teams that looked like crap Andy's exhibition games. Gone shouldn't be there came out swinging and the people who should be there look like yeah. Well, you're not because they weren't trying what are like you said, it has been five months since they played a meaningful hockey game of any sort but yeah, what an actual play what was then we got the rangers wicked a lot of penalties in that game you know. That that, that Ranger's game was weird I thought they would be playing a little better in shock to. See Lung. fiscal. The Star Overshadows Durkan but he was unfit to play. We'll talk about a goaltender that is under that same category but. I think with my biggest shock of the of the of the day was The Chicago. Edmonton game what what happened I thought for sure that Edmonton was going to play a little better than that but Chicago came to play in the. Saint Louis a couple days ago, and the exhibition game talked about this right Chicago's one of those teams that are like, okay. We shouldn't be here but now that we are I, mean we go good compliments of a players on that roster I mean I mean Corey Crawford is a goaltender I don't think he's a leading or anything like that, but he's he's a good goaltender when you put. A strong defense in front of him and when you got caves to count McCoy. In cain. Up Front and and and the the rookie Kubelik It's just a jam packed offense of power coming at you, which is very sway I mean they could be playing very good which they did yesterday or they could be playing very bad. So marine species I guess. Yeah. But this is what happens when you let people in some people come to plight. Okay. Well, then we'll just work our way into this tournament even though he shouldn't be here still at this point, but we are with this crazy. Also, what is wrong with the oilers? They did not look they had maybe five minutes in the third where they looked like the Edmonton oilers but other than that it was like all of a sudden they're like Oh. Yeah. We have dry Seidel mcdavid and it took for James Neal guys. Let's go like what's going on but very. I didn't get to really watch much of the Islanders Florida game but that pens Canadians game was a good game was. That with her on the in the evening. But yeah. The the yeah it was. It was interesting. It was very interesting bound to penalty shots in the same game ever happening a playoff. I don't know that wasn't the end Not Brady, sorry Brady I'm not blaming you matthew shocks full blown Matthew Chalk mode. It's like he's ready like he never stopped. He just been like him chilling I'll figure out how he's GonNa come back on like he is saying but I couldn't stay out follow the flames jets is just my is hard. Was All tired you'll say but Ivan could spend. Good quality of play for what it is I mean you have to especially this but starting yesterday like it does count for those people like what's the worst happens? The bruins with a third seed Oh poor us like you know what I mean or whatever which again if you're not going to let them the top seed like we discussed, they should have done but. Dallas for it was pretty fun and I liked the fondness of like, wow, it was getting what was good for me. Adnan. What was good for me was hockey twitter getting back till like some kind of normalcy with it with the absolute bat shit crazy fans and the fans that you really pay attention to that have good things to say. Not always negative. The negative Nellie is out there. They drive me absolutely crazy. But when you get a conversation going you see something. Good. It is really nice to see back again, we're going to talk to the whale were weird world of hockey twitter this week it was. All. Right. Well, we did have a resigning this week not the resigning that my heart's hoping for not that I don't love Anders Bjork you know I do. Let's talk about Yorkies new contract. What do we got he? I. Liked the deal I am is it short term? I would call this like a type of bridge deal more or less I call bridge deals, two years but let's let's call it a three year bridge. Really, show me contracts. And kept friendly. So. From my friend at CAP friendly on twitter. He mentioned that even after the book of the bjork signing that this seventeen million right around seventeen five to to get other odd done on this team and to me, that is enough to lockdown your your guy torry. Krug in our Guy Torry Group. So I think something's going to get done sooner or later I'm not sure what the holdup is if they're gonNA cyb yard and the other thing is, I'm really getting sick of the narrative of when players need to be signed I know order there's no order negotiations happen you know what I mean so. Obviously, this was a deal that was a one point six for three years. That's the A v A. per cap friendly at cap friendly on twitter they broke it down to a one point four, a one point six in a one point eight in final year of actual money so. That is good and he also still will be our FA at twenty seven years old when this deal is over and still will be arbitration eligible. So the one point eight in the final year will be the benchmark that they'll go to the arbiter and talk about in more or less Trending arbitration that the the arbitrator sides heavily with player. So we'll see what happens with that. But by that time I think that the cap space will be a little more open an to sign him if he shows it only if he shows if he doesn't do anything I'd. Even as an FA, I'm not sure if I'd keep him around with with other players in the lineup and the depth of the organization. So I was a good deal you know but now he's just gotTa bring it. Yeah. Let's exactly the deal that we said. He probably get right someone I said five three the I didn't think two, five three and you know how people right now Bishen that he? Oh, you paid him that much. Now I think He deserves a bump right? But, it's not too much of a bump because he has played very well this year and I do think that he's earned that kind of bump but he also has earned to keep it and see how much worth like you said when you finish growing into yourself, which is this is his first year up and he's looked alright and should be only good. Things moving up from here but I don't think it's too bad. We talked about this I think they have exactly enough to sign everybody on this team whether it's three years or one year or whatever. So that next year the team looks pretty much the same. So it in per cup friendly and at Bruins cap space I. Think I got that rate. They both mentioned that is seventeen five. Cap Space for twenty, twenty one and in twenty, one, twenty, two, this forty, four, million. Abuse going, I'll be going to be okay. And even if it stays flat, they already know do you know what I mean like they already know like Sola when we get to the end of crazy crazy does stay here and resign which in my heart that's what I would like for him to have another two years. If you walk reviewer a virtual hug away like the other day I, think torque crews going to score. It's like we think alike, I'm like I. Know That's why my second is evenly. David. KREJCI. But you know like those players like again like crazy is not gonna go onto the free market to try and make nine million dollars. He's probably GonNa want to finish his career for two years and then go back home you know what I mean and rob reasonable deal because that's what they do here right so that the young kids can. but I do think we have enough I think. Our now, but it does make me nervous like you said, there is no real order to sign. Do you know what I mean because it could be signed on everybody at the cheaper contracts and then figure out if you can give Tory crew a reasonable like you said, like you gotta give at least a seven or it's not even worth it in animation and then the then the popular narrative to of for me. The Unpopular. Narrative. Is. When Tori crew him potentially make seven, million, seven, five and then and then people freak out you can't pay people more than passed. An Act can birger on mash and and he's Defenseman jets us not right. Well, sorry folks. That's this way organizations work. You know there's no rhyme or reason to win people get signed and in any order or a what. Is Actually, like. When Berge around got signed, the CAP was lower. So his six whatever a year was would be equal to the whatever and don't tell me what you can play defensemen. No events like Erik, Carlson you haven't even played a damn game a hockey and like almost two years and you make a million dollars a year. So tell me who is where I'm so sick comparative and this and that like. Telling you again, maybe not your best defensive defensive I just mean generally I I do think all these players valuable. There's not anybody I'd be. Not a little upset to not be able to keep them round by I I'm I'm the problem is that now there's all the talk of like longer. It takes the less likely. No not really because you still have the same amount of money to play with. Do you know what I mean? It's not like you know what I mean. Now if everyone signed Torey Krug, then obviously the writing on the law so I don't know but we have other people. I do think it's. I think it's fair though bjork if we're GONNA talk about him I think it's a great show. Me Deal three more years. You'll walk that Donald Cap because what he's seen. He showing that he probably will be able to be worth four, million, five, million dollars is next contract or whatever if he keeps progressing, you know. So I not always an alright signing of course, it wasn't designing that I was everyday life just wanted on sweep please God just tell me the ways. Of, Kelly. Good value for for. Good value for a player that will probably look really good on the third line with. Garelli and coil. Looking right that going on. please. Sean Rally I. Love You and I know it's been a rough year but you're starting to hurt my feelings at this point. I need you to be better for you and The lower end of our order here I just need you to be because I need your leadership out there your your are do that just takes and goes guy like follow me like. All. We do it exactly. I shall. We talk about is Brad Marchand. Okay. He left the Columbus game the other day he's job from points that I'm hearing is in in in Bruce Cassidy said post game that he's he's not overly worried about. The injury, what was it by the way I? Forgot I don't know I've heard maybe his groin seems to have actually seen the injury. Part at, I don't know he's unfit to play. That's all I know exactly. That's that's the new narrative in the NHL these days but no I don't think cassidy was overly concerned. He did say that they'll be a follow up to the injury. There wasn't a follow up to the injury in the press conference which had people thinking that it might be longer term, but he was at practice yesterday. So and he was on the top line working with this is buds Pasternak in Burgi. So I'm not overly concerned about about that more or less saw on somebody else that's that recently got injured so. Well let's talk about that right now before we move onto the other check how `bout two. We just found out that he is not starting and spelling today which obviously when people hear this wall of our played the game, but we still have to mention it between us right to Garage Gone the Patriot Ledger Mike Loftus a great guy I met him several times mentioned on twitter that Rask has not skated has not been on skates since the Thursday exhibition game against Columbus. So this could be an even Maria from watertown our very own black and gold writer mentioned something on twitter to dad this might be the the lingering finger injury that's that keeps hampering him a little bit from his box box jumps that he did during the Dacoven offseason so. I think Cassidy said today that he says the Rascasse feeling better and should be able to get in the action sooner rather than later. But for today and we we Kinda knew that that was going to at least play one of these three games. So this isn't this isn't such a bad move to give to a little bit more arrests going into the game against Tampa Bay on on Wednesday. So it is today we'll see what out how he's prepared for it. I, want to say that this isn't a surprise. This this move was unlike loft said, I rows hasn't skated and so that means that I would I would probably go online and say cassidy probably said Yaro I would be ready train yourself up to Sunday afternoons game like you're starting. So I think I think everything's GonNa be okay they. See a good Yaroslava lack. I thought he played. Okay. Not Great by okay in the in the in the exhibition game against. Columbus when they split the duty so I think it'd be okay. Yeah I was thinking. It's probably that the finger I mean who knows if he hasn't skated, he might have pulled a groin or there's going to be a lot alike groin grinding hip flexor. After. Games which always happens in any sport frankly. But especially as for like you know I think it's probably wise. Again, it is just playing it is playing for points or whatever, but it's not like we're in danger of not being in the top four seeds either way. So if it is a finger, it probably is best to just rusted a little bit yet I mean it's not like you can't. You know and just because they said that he's Yaro starting that doesn't mean that. You won't see what I mean like he'll be out on the Ice Oh, maybe just rushed him play this game maybe he'll be at practice Tuesday and be starting on Wednesday like you said, you don't WanNa push this early though like if it is something you want him to heal up as best as they can as they move forward before like really really counts you now. I'm not too worried but it's just to mention an I'd have you know me. I. Trust you our Walk. I. Like Him I think he's a goaltender I think he's always been a great life role player on whatever team he's on he certainly. You know been there whatever I'm just thinking about how they won the Jennings Trophy this year, and then I was thinking, did you see that commercial with enterprises like left your cop car like the Marlboro Dory's like the the Zeno, the Jennings trophy, the Stanley Cup whatever he's like going there and he's like no I think it's just your coffee. Anyways, moving on, let's talk about the other check allies. Well, we have a couple checks allies. We already work COA cray Jeez Fine Pasta whatever pasta like Evans like Oh yeah. Pop like Pasta and look particularly patacula either everyone looked a little rough on I'm not. I'm still a little mad at him, but whatever you score the goal. So you've got to be the hero, the goal you know but still. I like to have you just a little more focused on you because he has fast and we need a shot. You know like you were going to try and get up on these points but. The mystery of the cash continues in the world. where? In what is now I? A lot of people were mad the other day he wouldn't go into specifics I. I understand that we don't know what it is. There could be something unrelated to cove it or anything else that has had a reason. This kid has not been there. We don't know. Okay in the NHL. Is a organization and the Bruins are certainly a particular organization within that that. Is Goddamn business like what's going on in here is not your business. It's between the forty of us and we're not going to tell you unless we want to. So leave us alone right or maybe it's I, don't know what it is I. Don't know but seems to me. That they've only been there a week, right? So he did media on what Thursday or Friday, which may maybe be Friday. But if he had flown commercial, he would had corentin for four days. So that would mean even if he flew out and less, he flew out later on Sunday night and they've just pretending like he wasn't with the team already in Toronto. That seems to me. You would not be available to media availability because you haven't serve your four days or whenever I'm just confused of what's going on. I'm not hating on Kasha everyone yet. Well, you know what? It's not his fault that he was when he first got traded here and then pandemic happened. So you know on some level, we don't know what happened. He could have been our Markus Johannesson, Charlie coyle forgotten happiness kind of infusion happened we don't. Not Saying that he's shouldn't be taught like what the Hell is going on with you. You know whatever but it's very weird. Time. Administration's been gone off. He can't. You know he can't be here. But like he will be here and like we expect he'll be with the team but we don't know when I'll be the team and like I don't know what's going on what think thank you mark of this continuing cautious saga I don't know. Because of the the whole of the using the air quotes unfit to play unfit to participate on fits across the border unfit to whatever. So. My whole theory on this thing is I really don't care I. Mean I do appoint that it's it's it's possible into related to my favorite team is the team that we cover every week every day twenty, four, seven. So. I'm more worried about now about on the Kasha is how he's GonNa play in these Games. If he plays at all because there's a lot is heavy speculation that he's going to be one of those types of players that are going to have to earn his spot back. And that's it. If you WANNA get in the lineup you have to show you need to work as hard as anybody else on the ice and and show the coaching staff that you have the trust in reliability to get back there and do what it takes to win so. He's got a lot of work to do, and if he doesn't make it and if he doesn't work hard enough, we have players that have come along with the extra twenty. X Twenty but we have twenty players that we're going to rely on. We have extras that cannot be fit supply whenever saw I it doesn't really bother me because the fact is that he really didn't show me much in the six games that he played in the National Hockey Boston Bruins when he got traded. So it just I don't know, but it is a mystery but the whole thing that why wasn't he there? Why wasn't he participating in all this and I get the hip in all that stuff to. it just remains a mystery. Thing is I'm not GonNa do all the speculation of like it because he doesn't have his work ethic I'm not getting sucked in that rabbit hole that again is between Don Sweeney. Cam Nealy the Jacobs family and coach. Cassidy do you know what I mean not has not you know. Because we don't know what's going on. It might not be a matter of that. Do you know what? I, mean it could very, well I mean. If they were on that plane whatever say they got exposed to covid and he was getting weird falls like whatever like that's not that nobody really has the second line right wing spot not in the last five fucking years. So I'm sick a here on that to like it's but the team will like meaning like cassidy in then. I. Feel. I can't gauge if they're more annoyed about everyone just shut up about Kosh like why is he the one year obsessed like to off the is that me worried about like you know He's not like he's not like Charles Missing you know what I mean. I. Think they are annoyed their second talking. You might have because like get the clue man we're not going to tell you move on and we expect them to be with the team and by all how they're talking is whether he starts on the third line or not this kid when he's Able to will be on the ice in the starting twelve, the united mean like that's what even their tone even I don't know. It's just weird like I'm just more annoyed of like we don't know what's going on in like the media people can all get in there. So they'll losing their minds in just saying whatever's coming out of their brains this week. Losing their minds and who cares about speculation 'cause we don't know that he's GonNa like you know this this I'm just saying I have lived in a Metro Boston. Life my whole entire life as a mainstay of where I was my primary residence and one thing I know is if in two weeks, Andre Kasha scored two goals or help crunchy in debrosse get. Whatever he will be the magic boy and it will be like Oh. Yeah. Man I. Wish he was here early you know and like him again. You know what I've like I said about Jackson Nico that part of what I'm skeptical as I don't want this kid gets a couple of bad turnovers and now people start hammering I'm for his confidence because I'm GonNa need. You know maybe that isn't on the second line, but I would like to have you available for to plug other spots as necessary. You know what I mean. So vice versa. So we don't know because that's my whole thing as we didn't really gauge him that much. I was more concerned about his injuries than his ability to play top minutes jared I mean we'll see what happens. But I just like it's a mystery mystery of people's obsessions with cost shot, which I'm not saying it's not weird the whole situation but I don't my my buddy Paul Hogan. Mentioned that I believe on the facebook. The other day yesterday and he just said, what is the glorified hype about If you look at the way he played in Anaheim it wasn't a mostly injured but. He wasn't like explosive offensively get goodspeed decent possession, but corner. You know. But you know Paul was absolutely right when he said that he's like people just really like. overrating this type of player when we've just seen six games from him in black and blue I don't think he rolled I don't think he's being overrated but I do think he's also being overly. Do you know what I mean like. This kid was he at like, let's be a little more inclusive like let's be a little more like. Just online it's like either way it's not we have enough people we're going to be fine you know like end but at the same time, these same people that are bitching like he hasn't been around, we'll be the same people bitching when he does play we'll be like Oh yeah. Now is like what would you want? Do they traded to get him thinking that it might shore up a little bit at least give options on that right side he only played six damn games he was injured a lot this year but if you look at any footage, he does seem like he'll play well. In this system and what you know what I mean everyone calm down. It's not like again I was more mad at Pasta. This Zachary everything seems fine with him. But who knows what's going on? There could be something totally independent of whatever happened with him and pasta that started the whole media like whatever. But he's not the most responsible Bruin but he's also shouldn't have to because he's only been abro in for three weeks before everything shut down not saying you should've known as responsibility. All right. We're moving on. We just gave way too much time again on that but I just like people. Calm down because again in three weeks you'll all love him all. Yeah. Great addition to the bruins knees masterful at the Donald. Late Matt Calman said of a former writer, W ee I and NHL DOT COM, and a bunch of other places said that regardless if the Bruins won the Stanley. Cup You'RE GONNA really go back to the beginning of. The end of July. Beginning of August and still nitpick players weren't here. Anymore. I doubt it. Not. If, we're still playing the last week of September. No one is even remember any of this happened. No one. Think that, but all my God, the the pump videos have been finally coming out like I said, everyone else has been really fun all the teams and there's so much footage and of course, not us it's like there the boys playing soccer with masks and that's all we get. We don't get anyone jamming on their guitar anything fun well. I heard Mr Eric Neville was getting a little pump up video going on He's like they were talking. He's going to do a pump up video if we get done in time before we go to watch the game or whatever But yeah, he is the did they if any the forty of you that actually whatever but he is he was wearing the bruins on my God he got he was posing. Go get my hockey stick. All right. I'm going to get you hockey stick anything. So he looks a little. He's like in my sweater that I'm wearing even though it's a hundred degrees scheme today what can I do people this? I'm going to be buried in this mark. This is the sheriff. House sabbaticals once upon me and laundry all stuff don't let off. Don't let him. Anything Montreal touches my body you are to knock him out and put him in the grave with me understand Yup grace. All right. Let's move onto. We're playing now where Two hours in four fourteen minutes or so away. But WHO's counting I'm not counting I mean I don't I'm not counting counting. I have nothing else going until exactly three Oh five or whatever. By now you know me I gotta be aware I to be their fifteen minutes at least ahead of time have everything set up and it was we'll talk about weird fan things. What is your expectation? Just a general like we're not analyzing analytical where not basing it on the Columbus we're not basing it on how we were kicking ass the season. What are your expectations for this team for these four? Ron. Robin Games like where would you like to see them fall? What are the things you'd like to see you know you just want to know before we go into the actual tournament that things are popping off. The three games of the plan you mean, that's I mean did I say fourteen fourteen three games yeah, I mean. I'm still holding high expectations for this team because even though there was a break in between on a long break I, really think that. Everybody's starting off at square one. There's nobody in the lead not like a regular season when you have time to to close a gap or you know create a gap. These these teams are going to be also hungry too because they were the best in there in the conference. PHILLY TAMPA, Bay and and Washington. Aren't going to be pushovers and the more we get involved in the so we have Philadelphia today. Hopefully. We come out strong. But by the time they played Tampa Bay on Wednesday. Let's get an like this season formed by then and then when they play Washington on. Saturday Sundays at been determined yet. It Sunday for the time has been. Yeah. But there's no time yet. That's when you really going to because Washington has as as Throughout history in my opinion I more or less recent history ed just own the Bruins You know I think that it's like a twenty in. To record or something like that. It's absolutely crazy. But each game you you're gonNA have to be more prepared than the other and and the the goal is commodity as the top seed even though you're going in as the top seed retaining is huge because you're going to be receded throughout the the remainder of the playoffs after this so. I mean I got to see these guys when all three is it realistic? Who knows? especially with the injuries and unfit supply scenarios and Blah Blah Blah. I still have strong feeling that his team's GonNa wake up and I think Bruce Cassidy is going to do the right things push these guys to make them successful when put him in areas of You know where they can. Learn to figure out what am I know it's only it's like it's it's it's an unconventional playoff right now because we're not seeing a best of four seven with seeing just like one games and so on. So if you can start early and figure out where teams are being. Exposed. And then you know him that wound get it will open and continue to pound him because that's what you need to do. goaltenders like heart-to-heart. He's young. He's good goaltenders like The guy down in Tampa Bay I can never VESCO Websky Haskell yeah and and whoever's in net for Washington hope your or alias sign off they're all going to be tough tough goaltenders that a very good angles in their craft that it's not going to be easy to do so you have to get a lot of rubber on them no matter what. I don't expect them to be the number one see i. just think it's unrealistic to win all three like to put that kind of expectation it would be awesome if you want all three but the chances are you may lose to Philly or Tampa or Washington I know this statistically in electrically for those of you who loved that out there. But I also know this from watching my team play these other teams. I know my team can beat these teams but I also know these teams where the top four teams for a reason on the conference. Do you know what I mean that being said I think it's actually I. think that's going to be cool. It's like it's a catch twenty two right because you are playing the other heavy hitter kind of just generally once they get their shit together best teams in the League teams. That's good. Though because you compete level is going to start up here but not so high because you're not getting eliminated right so like the compete levels going to be up high just like it is in the best to three but. You still gotTa Watch out injuries and stuff, but in the end it just so you can be levels already up here. So if you do that and then we say we get like a team that we should easily be able to be which again that's all caveat you know whatever like no one's easy to beat like the playoffs or beast and anybody can win at any given time. I. Believe that on any day any given Sunday right. The Sunday you know whatever. So just play the best you can. All I'm asking for is at least being the second seed. Do you know what I mean I don't want to end up number four. That's not cool. Not. Because, mainly, because even though there's been five months, we also were the where the defending eastern conference champions. From last year to do you know what I mean so you have dailies be the second seat. If you think that you're in the right frame of mind to make the run all the way to the final again. I just want to see our special teams look like they should write. Our power play is not always the best in the league, but we are always in the top five usually of power I mean same thing with the PK, like a defense needs to just get the Rostov and. Other than that I think will be writing the minute that the first rail round starts. That's all I really expect. I expect you to figure it out. I expect you to not be disorganized I. Expect you guys to figure out again how you're clicking because they are like like all the teams there are band of brothers like it's GonNa come down to especially with all the fans being taken out of it. What happens in these locker rooms with these teams is going to be the difference. On the ice off the ice. So that's all I want. Is I want them to make a good showing like them to maybe pop Tampa and the teeth or Washington you know like? I'd rather maybe beat them just for my own satisfaction but I I can't skate. So no one's asking me to do that. So I mean Gosh half. Light magic somewhere else is already better on their team than I am. So. That's all thing whatever don't lose steam guy. Where's your thing? How long till the game time two hours and ten minutes? Get this going. All right. So I would like to go on. Sorry. No. Actually the next thing I forgot you WanNa talk about the aid. Shell. View yes. Yes. The the American Hockey League on Thursday last week. July thirtieth. Came out with an article in I wrote an article about it after. BLOCKING DOT com. About the Providence Bruins and when they could expect to come back now there's a there's a tentative date implant, which is December. Four happening my birthday shout Mary. But That is a target date they WANNA, get back to work but this is going to be. Very weird coming back logistic wise because. Unlikely Nhl, the HDL the NHL can get money generated funds from advertising MTV stuff. The American Hockey League is not televised while they might be but not all thirty one teams. They might do individual stuff in certain areas so. They rely on fans in the stands. Now, the last time I heard was the the they didn't want to. Go forward with a plan of starting the twenty twenty, one season with other vaccine but something has changed in that In the. Way Everything is going out There's a task force Cova Task Force that the AHL and NHL of working together. One of the members happens to be general manager John Sweeney So they've had a lot of dialogue about. How to do it safely and how do you know 'cause? For the NHL to move forward, you need to be accompanied by affiliated team below you. So you can have your prospects in and you two way players skating. NBA ready for emergency situations. So I just think that the age has really taken the lead. I'm sorry the NHL has taken the lead on this and the H. L. Following but it's really good really good to see what happens with with the fans in the stands and how that's all going to work out because from my understanding that twelve out of thirty, one teams in the American Hockey League are not owned by their apparent club, and that includes the providence bruins. The Boston Bruins do not own the providence runs. They are affiliation and so on separate entity and Blah. Blah. Blah. Other Teams in the National Hockey League they do on their minor pro system so. Should be interesting but it's a good. good. Time to start. Getting H Allen some some minor hockey backup. I forgot what I was. GonNa say but Yeah. Well, that's all I'm sorry. I. Got I got. This might be beneficial to age LTV too so if they can. If some of these organizations can go on without asses in the seats in dollars wind concessions. I think that H LTV have a huge benefit in increased subscriptions by that you know if you're able to play in the buildings without fans Goethe aged al TV dot com or the H. L. Website and subscribe it's cheap eight all dollars to watch every game from all thirty one teams in it's like forty something dollars or thirty dollars to watch your your favorite team home and away. So, and that's all year and and they have a great playoff package to that unfortunately was not able to be used for the first time H. LTV is new to the AHL. So they took goal for newly on who is an absolute shit show and they cost way too much. I. Used to pay three hundred dollars just to watch every team play. Now it's only seventy nine. So it's a huge benefit. You are a maniac guy can't help it. Just saying. Was Oh what was I gonNa say Oh, and that's right in line with when NHL is planning hopefully to start the twenty twenty one season right first week in December, that's what they are kind of numbers. Early. Early, December mid December bat time line to get to get back on after the a brief off season. because I think you have to have like so many days. In between per it's Percy Ba in per union law that you have to have a break so. I. Think that's why they do in. The October cop can't be awarded after October fourth because that gives them exactly to your birthday papa drop. While that'd be great. But you from some. The. Same Day on your birthday. Around as the Whitney and I'm just GonNa leave you there near Glory It's happening. Okay so Again like which is we're loosey-goosey today. Okay. People I can't contain myself I'm like listening I'm like, yes I'm very excited about the age when does the coyotes game style? To, cooperate so bad it starts at two I own. Time. We're just approaching the fifty minute. I'll I'll know rushing I. don't care as long as I'm there when the Bruins game starts but I would like to I. Don't know just like you're gonNA fill in some gaps there again, there's not really like next week it'll be way more like a lot of games have happened in our back in kind of like reporting and what will do for the folks that are listening and watch it on Youtube and speaking of Youtube, I have to get on my ass about uploading videos I just haven't had time because I've been doing a lot of advertising meetings a lot of hiring in training. It's just it's a one man show basically, but we do have a great team Yeah I forgot where I was gonNA say again, Jesus. But I. Yeah. We'll. We'll. I'll be getting back on the Youtube soon shortly so Okay so I don't know but what I was GONNA say is. We'll get back to like the normal for those of you who like when we recap every goal score and all that we're going to get back on track for some of that I don't care sometimes you just gotTa have fun be chat. This is after all a podcast of by fans fundamentally. So we're going to do that. So let's talk. Okay. So obviously, you know I'm new on the twitter still don't know what the Hell I'm doing I tried to do hashtags this morning I don't know if I did it right? I don't know so. Lasted Right Barry Strange worlds. First leads address the hockey media I think a losing their mind. There's a lot of complaining about not having being able to be in the bubble which I understand from their profession I understand but I also understand the NHL needed to that shut down and only let who they need to let and if they're only doing virtual frigging media anyways than you, sorry about are going to have to watch it at your hotel or whatever the media isn't even allowed. To stay in a bubble they have to stay outside the bubble and get tested and in and out like all the other employees at this time. So I do feel bad because sports writers I absolutely feel for you. I Love Sports. So it's been heartbreaking watching people lose their jobs and getting late you know this and that everybody else right everyone's taken ahead. So I feel for that and I feel sad and there's some people really gonNA miss being in there. I got my Mel Burien Nassau Right now. But I also need you to stop whining about being in there because you know what? For the ninety nine percent of the rest of us we never get to go in there. So can you please like, Oh, you're going to have to just be a fan and report from year thing you can still sit there and tweet and watch. You're literally doing the same thing that Jack Edwards and Andy Brickley are doing and everybody else like home broadcast are broadcasting from their home on A. Video screen too. So just like they are going to have to adapt. So you, I, love you guys I feel for you. I'm so happy a products back. So you can at least put out a blog or something and get like you know what I mean like use your skills do what you love to do but please stop crying about it because for the rest the rest of US never get to do that and let's all just love that we have hockey back and move on. In Stock Chirping the shit out of each other. There's been so much fighting from reply like hockey reporters, people who are members of the professional records hockey association I don't know if you want to get into the actual details, anybody who has been out there has seen it. But like you look I'm like what is going on it? All started a couple of weeks ago CRUSOE's mind went. East and front mayor. Like hockey like I which is funny because this week we finally have like games and stuff back on and like you'd think it'd be more back to normal business. No like hands wisher fighting what is going on what is not porter talking about? He's just like you know just people are spouting off. I don't know what do you like. That's just weird to me like you guys of the. Supposed to be the reporters man it's supposed to be the fans biting on twitter I. Think I don't know I don't know that much about twitter. What say you my. All Yeah. I'd be one that that really got. Me Was the Matt Porter Boston Globe Writer and he's a nice guy and everything by that. Is a little stretch here with the whole hat. You know the guy wore a hat big deal I. Don't I'm I'm so sick and tired of hearing all this crap but You, know? Matt. Matt Porter put out a picture of of of to grasp in captains happen on an interview Rask at a Boston police add on, and of course, that porter in there it is and I have an image that has been since taken down by either the NHL Boston Bruins all and himself of Mr Bradley. Saying to. Porter are you fucking serious border? This here is why you are part of the problem. while. That was. A very, very stern show fired you know and and he's absolutely right that that a lot of this. Divide is coming from a media standpoint and. To have the platform platforms being used like that I think my Shannon explained it very, very accurately that bat that type of stuff needs to stop because it's just just creating more diversity in a world that. Is Way too much. While I was there I say this all the time Americans. Please we all love this country stop attacking each other at all times about opinion you have everything you've done. You know whatever how `Bout First of all like I said in the beginning I'm like or he just had that hat and that's the one he threw on after practice before he did zoom meeting or whatever. But here's a crazy idea like you can actually support diversity and support fixing the problems that are wrong in our. Systems or whatever like you know doesn't like everything is my my main thing is like this concerns me and I am a liberal I'll say it. I'm a liberal I was lefty before it was cool I maybe not as crazy as the leftist but like saying. Right or wrong we are all the same people. Everything is not symbolic. Okay. Sometimes, you just have a Boston police hat. You know what? I mean. There's nothing wrong with supporting your community and supporting you know like, I, always say it I'm sure you can all tell if you've seen on on Youtube I am definitely see through white girl that does not mean I think it's not fucked up that. Americans get fucking Shit on in stupid ways and are denied their rights as fucking citizens. Yeah. But do I also think that there are a lot of good police and we need to give them the support to to get rid of the bad police and we all come together as communities. You know like they are saying things like back in the day cops are part of the community they walk the beat they knew the. You know whatever we need to give back to those things we need to get you know like we need to get away from every time. You don't like that something that whatever. So you took offence or whatever that this is undermining the exact statement the Bruins sent out know it's fucking not no, it's not how is it? It's not it's no different than first responders. All it was was a goaltender who had a hat. In his bag and he threw it on his Goddamn had and that had to turn into literally a war of light just people screaming at each other stop yelling at each other everybody just stop over everything I don't care what it is. Hockey Hat's what goaltenders a wearing what's happening here was happening there. What politicians ever would stop take a breath did we not learn anything in two thousand and twenty like let's stop being. Hyper, reactive to everything. Let's take a minute. We have time to pause in like value our lives in value other people's lives, and just we don't have to make a big deal out of every goddamn thing because then what happens is the big deals get lost in the shuffle like yesterday I was very upset because I've seen people like a won't anyone take a knee with with Duma us today, right but what I'm thinking is No this is the right thing because the last message that needs to be sent as white as hockey right especially I. An organization that's trying to confront their own injustices in whatever thing that's fouled out, right? No, this is not for. Sidney crosby in them to be a part of or whatever you know like this is for them to make it for him to kneel and how the support and his company giving him the platform in the moment to be the spotlight doesn't have to always be about everyone right? Like that's not catalyst for changes. We all support you the way that you we need to support each other. At the time. So like those kinds of things like who cares if you don't like how they did it that is the biggest thing I've seen fucking hockey do that was meaningful diversity in a very long time? I'm loving this diversity you know the new Hda I can't wait to see what they do as a program in an organization to help change culture within the sport and outside. The communities in which that these teams are in and stuff but like everyone just shot up when did everybody's opinion become? Actual fact or whatever like. It's so weird. The Walker we get the more stupid. We get I. Don't get it like how can you actually be if we're all just getting like degenerating ourselves into just I Dunno address real problems don't make problems out of no problems can everybody do that for me? I'm sorry that was my anger rant for today because it's just bothered me. But there have been some great chirps going on outside of the professionals with the online twitter and stuff or what are I'm sure others those media I love the teams chirping each other I. Love. It also console unexplained made pastas I don't know why I. chirp Tom Wilson I just felt like just got the crazy twitter fingers just hot. He Likes Hey, goal score whatever and I think it's weird like I can just see Tom Wilson going O K lovie disagrees I. Think you imagine him sitting there and looking and getting so some of the hockey players have been getting a little silly up in there too. So we get a silly the there's a narrative out there on the tweet machine saying that. I've seen it a couple of times not just for one person that they seem to. Think that two garage a little hung over. So I. I know right I, don't I don't understand that what whatever I, think he's going to be more. Years ago hockey players showed up still drunk to play the Games. They walked in the locker room yeah. Anyway. Don't think to. GonNa play 'cause he's Hungover I think he's probably a little tougher than that. That stone agree but I do. I think it's more likely the finger that being. Right. I know are a group of people that never give up and keep trying to do what's best for them and and everything else, and also in the Kentucky community because they make fantastic stop. But we're GONNA take a quick break and hear from the awesome folks at the store next door up in Yarmouth. Nova. Scotia, you go to find their awesome hockey furniture hockey pictures hockey, whatever they make things out of recycled materials are especially hockey sticks, benches, tables, whatever. So please go to the website the store next door DOT CA, check him out. By something this people with disabilities are going to work every day and they get paychecks. To show for it so We'll be right back. A lot of people with disabilities I can't go and find a job. So we said of business to fill those needs wants to get time. 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They have great writers if you're not going in reading the articles which I mean, there are links obviously that get tweeted out in whatever on facebook and shared all the time but you have to get over there and great writers great job over there there's a long less maybe next week we'll read all the great writers that are over at the website and just say, Hey, vol people. I will do that I'll do that homework. All right So really we're coming to the end of the game We don't really have a lot to talk about We did kick around trying to do a post game, but it's just not feasible for this to happen. So I'll. Next week, we'll have a lot more games to talk about they'll be things that'll happen. You know whatever. So one thing that is still on my mind just one a couple just ran that random hockey things happen in my brain is. Have I missed judge Gary Bettman all these years for thirty years. Have I just not given the sky his do when he did deserve it because the NHL looks like the Rockstar Sports Organization right now and Gary put out a press release the other day and I was like Did I just get a little bit of Goose Pimples, Mr Batman you're saying the right things because you're just a lawyer and you know how to talk or I actually felt link. He had some emotion. Meant it like this is the first time Gary. Bettman that I felt like you truly do love the Nhl you always say you love the NHL but. have. I been wrong about Gary Bettman or am I just Like I don't know mock I'm confused because you know how I feel about the Batman me and like most other people I, do have three honest with you. I did see your tweet and so on by didn't read the article or the a what he said. So enlighten me if you would please. On just saying he's saying things like this is you know like you know safety everyone our world has changed. You know the we need to do better. We haven't done it enough. You know we recognized we haven't done enough for like the social injustice aspect in this man immediately, we've done this via fans like the players signed on not just because they wanted to finish what they started but because it's fees and it was like two paragraphs about how awesome the fans you know and this is in for Lee that really they say they love their fans but they don't because again, we're kind of like thirty one thomas and now thirty two teams shout Seattle. Near funny because they're really in the game on but either gonNA. And I'm not saying he's been a better commissioner than I thought he has been I'm just saying as a human being Gary Bettman actually an actual hockey fan and does love it and does value the people who watch the product good bad or ugly? He puts out. Asking for a friend. Yeah, it was just like just he seems they seem to be saying and doing the right things. Fifteen hundred things. Oh, I remembered what the thing was last night you like all add that. This is just another random non bruins. We didn't really talk about the shit show in Arizona right it reminded me Arizona data. On but I would like to I know that we would just get. We'll talk the this is just a two minute round but I would like to speak for Bruins fans and oilers fans if I I'm not trying to speak for all of us, but I'd like to speak for. I'm GonNa go with like ninety percent of us do not hire pita Chia pet don't do it. Peter. Torelli will not help the situation. He'll all in the first couple of years or the first year it might look like he might help the situation. I can almost guarantee you like I said the best thing I heard all we is like. I and maybe when he gets ready to Taylor Hollow, get more for him than Tyler Sagan you. So just I'm just looking at you Arizona I'm looking at you don't do it. It is not worth. It looks Nice. Looks Nice. It's like one of those really expensive cars that looked great but have really shitty transmissions and you're always fixing it all the time don't do it. Don't do it. I did want to mention the GM though that whole draw. Yeah. Yeah. CHICA. Chica obviously did not like what was going on I. The the Arizona coyotes amount mistaken have new ownership and I'm not sure If they were his guy. So he might have been on the overlap when he came and he's a huge analytics guy too but. I don't know exactly the the the whole thing I'm paraphrasing here but The both side weren't happy. He asked to leave the organization says what you can't you. You know while while you can't talk to other teams Bob Law they could've really really done something serious to him in in the whole kind of contract because you're not supposed to talk to other teams and apparently he had conversations with New Jersey and they they didn't want to bring him in at a a GM or an assistant. GM. But. Later to try to sneak away I'll how was all worded but it was just very weird. But the timing for me was even weirder that they would just about to. Get into the bubbles fulltime if they weren't already there and and he wasn't he wasn't there and decided right before they started this whole playoffs that that he was he quit he resigned whatever. It was like two days before they left to go to Edmonton. Yeah. Yeah. Basically there to conflict conflicting statements He says I love the Fans I love this team, its management and management says, Hey, buddy you interviewed for a job that we let you go interview for that. You false pretense said that wasn't because the rule you can't. You can't interview without permission for a job at similar to the job that you're already holding or something like you know what I mean. So he's GM. So he can't go be someone else's GM our interview without permission. And they say, yeah, well, you're lucky. We're not suing you for breach of contract jerk you know like it's very strange. All I'm asking is please don't do it to yourself. Arizona have promise. You now have a chance to maybe see the light at the end of the tunnel your fans have been patient and everything like this. You almost didn't even get to be a team anymore do not get. Just Like I said I think that they're going to wait and see what they do with. Taylor. Hall for us on that one I think that'd be the smart thing to do 'cause if you want to retain a-. A world class player like him. And he still is. He's still got this the skills speed the talent to do anything on on any teams in this league but. If, they want to keep him and a realistic chance of doing it i. don't see that come into the desert but if they lose him in the off season, I could definitely see that as there's a lot other pay a lot of other people that you could probably sift through Mike Fuda. Anybody over L. A. King GM under Dean Lombardi the guy is a mastermind at the talent. He put together I mean Tanta Pearson, Talented Foley Jordan we all these guys were all good talented players that went through his scouting staff and you know this guy needs to be a GM sooner or later the way he got pulled out by Rob. Lake's, which is now the kings ambitious basically just fired ways. It was just a tough situation for them but yeah. I heard a couple of interviews about that. Obviously, if you want to listen to a better explanation of what was going on with John Chaika and the Arizona coyotes go listen to Elliott Friedman and Geoff Merrick and thirty one thoughts gas. recently, within within the last two weeks I guess they they do a fantastic a rundown of everything that they've heard. And obviously, they have beddis losses than I do for information. All well, the last thing I have is I'd like to we've had a few reviews or whatever like dimension them we haven't done that in a while. 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198: We Recap The 2020 Boston Bruins Draft & Talk About The Current NHL Free Agency

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198: We Recap The 2020 Boston Bruins Draft & Talk About The Current NHL Free Agency

"No recording over here. So whenever you're ready, give it a 3 to 1, okay. All right, 321 welcome to episode what number 198 of the black and gold hockey podcast on October 11th 2020. It's presented by black and gold production podcast Network and sponsored by BetOnline. Go to bed online. Ag and enter code c l n s fifty lots of talk about today on the podcast lots of Bruins knows I am your host not bound and I enjoyed each week by Heather Anderson. Hi Heather. Hello Matt. How are you this week? Good job. And also Mark Allred. Hello Mark. Hey, man, how's it going? Heather great to see you again. Yes. I'm I'm in all black cuz I'm warning you're in off of things that put you in morning and just a bit but first Mark have some words for I do before I get to the Show sponsored, but online. I just want to give a quick shout-out. Happy birthday shoutout. To Lauren Campbell and Lauren works at use the word for black and gold hockey.com. Now she works at Nasa issues of work horse over there. So Warren, happy birthday to you and hopefully you have a great day. And the other thing is I just want to say Happy Thanksgiving to all Canadian listeners big day for them up there. Hopefully you're able to to be with family and friends. So yeah, so hopefully it's safe and and you're able to social distance appropriately, but I also enjoy being with family. So with that being said, let's talk about betonline.ag. The wait is finally over and football is back. You might not be at a game this year, but you can still be in on the action about online. A G by the line. She is going the extra mile to make sure you can get in on everything imagine this season from game spreads and totals to team player and coaching props. Betonline.ag gives you more options to wager than any place online and have been a staple in the gambling industry for over twenty years. 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So it makes a lower a less shot defense was picked first by the Bruins 1058 pick in the second round. So Heather, I just wanted to get your thoughts of when it happened what you thought was and and if that's a pick that hopefully is under the radar and Don Sweeney smile. And everyone else. Okay, that can be a general thing to be said about our entire draft is John Sweeney must know something that maybe not all of us know a lot of those people we had discussed with Steve were still on the board. So I was thinking, you know, whatever they were. A lot of people on the board. I was a little shocked. I mean it's an okay pic. I mean as a developer, you know for developmentally but like you said no one even kind of knew he's not like a high gonna maybe be ready in the year or two to help you out kind of pick. It's more of the like let's get more people on our system kind of pick and I was a little shocked that for our first picked after not having a first-round draft pick. This is the kid we picked. I don't know. That's all I can really say about I was little like what like that's it. I don't know Mark. Yeah. I was a little weirded out about this one. And obviously I was thinking it was going to be a wing cuz I thought that we were basically addressing some needs they're not for the immediate needs wage. I don't think any of these players except for a first-round pick has the potential to actually be in the NHL The Following season have to get drafted. But I wanted to Wing I wanted to get some more Wingers in the process off when you developing. So but Don Sweeney and his scouting staff have been known to go off the board and and address certain needs that they see fit so often they've definitely smarter than I could ever be when it comes to evaluating talent, but just going on by what some of the Scouts have been saying is is Laura he possesses a decent skating ability for a big kid. You can cover a lot of the ice east to west in a defensive posture using his feet and reach so he's got a huge reach and boss. He's he's 6-3. He's a hundred ninety-five pounds right now. So by the time he's in the NHL he's going to he's gotta be at least two twenty. I would think so that is going to be something to look. At and how he's groomed and so on the process for me was interesting because before he went to the USHL, he went to Culver Academy a new age Military Academy, which is pretty cool. So it's work ethic for me character is is something that checks the Box off on this one. It's not all about what I think they took a pic but it's what needs they they addressed so I can't even talk but it's it's a work-in-progress. This is such a gamble if it works. I'll give all going to be looking silly Soul. That's all I got to say about Mason. Yeah, you know Mason, you know, he did play for the Green Bay gamblers the United States Hockey League had a good season for them is committed to the Ohio State Buckeyes the 21 22, you know, it's Unsure how long he'll play college hockey. Maybe at least probably two years anyway, so you're looking at a kid, that's probably not dead. To be even in the system for a good three to four years and maybe some financial implications are involved in this where you don't want to sign kids approach contracts right away, you know, the uncertainty of the financial revenue and financial status all of these players all four of them seem to be players coming down the road some off all headed to major college hockey at some point as well. And that pleased me the number to the second the third round pick in eighty-nine. And that was Trevor kuttar was actually committed to Boston College this year seemed to be more in line with the type of first of all in the in the rankings. It was sort of in more in line where he would typically fall people said and he has another sort of stocky 200-pound player who is by all accounts plays with a good motor good in the corners go to Greece the areas and plays a lot of competitive, New Jersey. Actually kind of liked this pic from what I read. So I wanted to get my mark your read on Trevor Kunta. Yeah, I'm definitely interested in this kid another off the board. They're all off the board. So we're just going to say that right now, but he's six feet tall. He's over two hundred pounds for a sentiment. It's got good size. But when I found interesting is this is this is his third year in the in the USHL, which is you don't really hear that too often. You hear one year and then they go right into the Freshman season. So he's been he's been touted a lot younger than than a lot of these guys that are going into into college. So that's good on him cuz he's getting more experience in the USHL is just another tremendous change to your league in the United States. So to have all that experience and then go into your freshman season at a b c it just it just really checks off a couple of boxes. They're dead. Youngstown is a great program in the USHL and he's got good skating strength and coordination looks very improved from last season wage is about six foot flat, but plays a solid near two hundred pounds and this is all coming from the Black Book. I'm not this isn't this isn't my my stuff but off he he still has a better shot game rate at nearly 4.5 per so that's good the kid shoots the puck a lot and you know, he's got good speed. So it's another solid addition into the the whole development scheme and hopefully it works out. Otherwise you think of this pic. I thought even though again really again off the board, but that Sweeney always finds kind of random players, but I thought I agree with you in that I thought that I received a lot more like the Bruins like Steve said the roads have a style they don't have like they don't draft position or anything else. That's more of like a Bruins type player certainly satisfies the needs of having a bigger player, especially, you know, he'll grow into finish growing into being a man and young enough you train but I agree with Mark I think this is just indicative of the USHL system and the national team develop a system just like how good these kids are and I think it Youngstown with the program they have is definitely going to serve him well going into college, you know what I mean? It kind of put some not above the edge but you know to play D1 hockey as hot enough but to really stand out and I do like he seems more our style and that's all I have to say about that marked it all the stats and all that stuff wage. So what do you think was this? You know, I like I kind of like this pic. I like the fact that we can watch them and be City. I don't know. It's pretty cool. But I think you know if BC is targeting in and that's certainly playing high-level hockey song. So I think we'll see obviously see a lot of him. I like the fact that he's a little rugged. I like that he is a competitive I think competitiveness is very very important and I think sometimes underrated when we're we're dealing with draft picks and what kind of motor they have. I think we've had that a little bit of that struggle with a with a guy like Jake debrusk, you know, sometimes if you're not bringing it every night you be coming home assistant and I think that a kid like Kunta as long as he keeps playing hard every night. I think he has he definitely has a chance anyway to you know to make a protein down the road and it'll be probably a couple of years before we see him, but I kind of liked this pic after being a little disappointed with that second round pick and then with the 4th rounder, they didn't have one dog. No, Marcus, Johansson trade cost of a fourth round pick a couple of years ago. So they went in the fifth round to a familiar name. And that was Mason longer Brunner. His dad is the director play a game development for the Bruins and he's a former nhler long-time NHL or Jamie langenbrunner was a very good hockey player. And Mason comes in, you know as a as a kid that off basically they know him very well and you know, it kind of, you know late late in rounds, you know, usually look back in the history. Not a lot of late round picks even really snifty in a change. So I think if they can develop someone like Mason, I thought that that was a decent pick. I didn't know how they how you felt about the nepotism in the paper for the Bruins. I think it's not it wasn't surprising. I mean, I'm a Bruins fan but I do like that he oh, he's a bigger young again and he'll finish growing in but he played Minnesota high school hockey, which is really good also within being in the developmental programs and I like that. He's a defenseman. So they're looking forward, right? Cuz the kid the quote unquote kids prospects, whatever. I know you can't seem like they're all getting a little older right like Euro and zaboor all like what are we going to get these guys up in here if not ship him off, but I'm glad to see we're replenishing like kind of next wave of the defenseman to develop. I agree that he where's he going Harvard? Yes, something is he cannot? Yeah, I forgot for a second. But again it off it goes to say this goes to controlling their development. Right? Like they're all high school. They all played in the National development programs or like big time high school hockey game. Like this, so they're Elite within their own selves even though they're in the lower pic ends, but I do. I think it's he's a good case probably that it is good to have the hockey pedigree. Do you know what I mean? His father's going to make sure that he does things right? I love you know, so that that to me. I like the again another kid that we can see kind of locally. Right? Like it'll be fun at being part time to see some of the prospects playing. Yeah. I'm I'm on board with a lot of things that had the set and but the thing is it's it's funny cause I thought that the conflict of interest would play a big part in this too. But that was easily squashed by General Myers John Sweeney when he mentioned that Jamie will not let me sorry May. Well not be directly, you know trained by him. He'll be you know, he'll be on the ice and so on for for, you know training processes, but Chris Kelly former Boston Bruins. We will be instrumental in his development moving forward to keep that whole the whole father-son thing away from it. But Mason and this is for the black book on the I I keep forgetting what it's called the prospect something. I'm terrible Mason has a way to go physically as he has very lanky frame and lacks a lot of strength for a player his size which costs him in some one-on-one situations even at the high school level. So there's there's things that he has to work on physically and I think he's going to get that and often referred, you know, Ted Donato still coach in there if I'm not mistaken. So I'm sure that the development process would be good for him whether he's there for two or all the full ride, but the other thing is is it's really cool for Boston to be so close and the development scheme. So yeah, I it's just another work-in-progress for me and I'm probably so cliche a cliche but it is what it is right lung brother actually played a Sioux City of the USHL had 19 points in 25 games for a defenseman, which I thought was, you know, really good sign in a like a dog. Heather said the Bloodlines I think are key there and I think it could be a decent Prospect down the road. We'll certainly see in the sixth round Riley Duran will bring kid Ruben Massachusetts Academy good, you know seems to be another kid with size and they went for kids with some pretty good size and Serena's the center and Page when you get your thoughts on Durand Mark. Yeah, they all all the players that they picked were over six feet tall and and nearing two hundred pounds so that you can basically tell where the Bruins are going with that they're trying to get bigger and badder but you know not to the full extent of the big bad Bruins when when skating was slow and it was more or less just a melee down there, but he played for the the Cape Cod Whalers which is an under-18 double a midget program and enlarging Academy like you said Matt? He's got solid offensive numbers with 22 goals 20 to assist and twenty seven games statistics very under an offensive output with the Cape Cod Wireless. However, he had little trouble contributing at that level either his skating has developed into a a high-end category and age he has he's got time to grow into his frame. So these from the hockey press prospects black book so good and now there's just another piece that's going to be in the fold. Heather how did you feel about Duran? Yeah again another kids big head, you know, they'll look I guess they're going to try and read the bigger players into the system cuz what their plan is and you know, once they grow and like Mark said into their frames he's going to Providence next year. I think so now the kid that you can keep close eye on will see a lot of them with the hockey East and I you know, just generally and when do you want it's a sixth-round pick. I think it sounds like a solid sixth round pick to kind of put in and they are you know, what I do like is that these all these prospects, you know coming into the prospect pull them young so you can really help their development and track them from emerging from teenage players into potential NHL players, you know what I mean or even stall at age players and I help guide them and it's not shocking though allow another guy good. Well, what was all the people want to say? Like, you know will burn and we got wall pool. You know, what ice cream? That's great. We're just off. Traveling from every town or let's get one from every town. It's a Massachusetts thing, I guess right but no like again for a sixth-round draft pick seems all right to me math. Yeah, absolutely. And I you know, I think he'll play for the Youngstown Phantoms this coming year, which actually the team that cooked are played for so we'll see, you know, see what his development brings and it'll bring us to our next topic on the agenda and wage and we'll move on to actually something that actually has to do with this draft and that's the fact of the Bruins didn't have a number first round pick and you know, whether or not they were to trade back in my thoughts are that they really didn't have any intention to and I think it for a couple of reasons one. I think they thought this was a a little bit of a deeper draft and they could get some Talent down the line where they were and also I think they're probably worse than financial ramifications of do we really want to get a get a kid that maybe more ready sooner or have to pay a little bit more. So I think that those factors maybe came into play off. The first round pick but I don't know how that what your thoughts. Were. Were you clamoring for a first-round pick or I just seem to be okay with it. To be honest. I on one hand. It's like I really doubt if this is how it's going to go. I want this team to do something big. So it was like, okay, maybe this is going to pop off a lot of stuff but to be fair the draft generally there wasn't a lot of jockeying for position that Montana mean like I thought Ottawa, why don't we just let them drop the whole draft like that's what I was starting to think but I don't I feel like maybe because Sweeney's song is playing the long game that it wasn't worth it. You know, I mean whatever he would have had to give up for a first round pick was worth it to him. So in that I'm glad we didn't, you know piss away a lot of stuff to get a first-round. I'd rather just go through free agency and frankly right now. I'm struggling through but no I was I wasn't surprised either cuz John's not going to bet the farm especially not for a first-round draft pick know what I mean. He needs something now. He's got a lot of pressure on him now so khong Just my thoughts on I wasn't surprised she didn't do something big but it kind of would have been awesome if there was a giant bag like they shake it all up cuz I kind of am like in a blow it up though. No Arc. I I wanted to get back in in the first round. Definitely and I don't know what's going to happen with the whole the brush thing. We'll talk about that later. But but he definitely could have been a in play to get into that first round. So obviously that they're still you know involved in what what what he can do for the team so often. Yeah, I really wanted to get back in. I wanted to get a higher a higher pick. I wanted to get the Winger and and it was sold ruined. It really was so Bruins to go defense-first, I mean, it's it's crazy. I agree. It's it's trending it's just like, you know, they're going to pick a defenseman the last the last first round pick was was Beecher and before that they went defenseman with McEvoy and them Went with the with the 29th pick Frederik. So, you know, it was just so brilliant to do something like that. Yeah, and I agree Mark and I I I guess part of the reason why I didn't mind I'm not going back in the first wrong cuz I really don't know who they they would pick an affiliate yet. Like if you if you were to make a trade then you really have to hit on that pick and I don't know if I have a ton of confidence in it to be up to be honest. And then when a see the second round pick selected me think well, why would you why would you go into the first film? You probably going to take a rich guy anyway, so it just it was I don't know if that's probably more so when I was concerned about because I obviously without a first-round pick for fans. It's not as exciting but I just don't know if I was confident enough in that that whole scenario of going into the first round and then taking a guy that's on the board. It would have frustrated me even more to be honest with you on to the next topic which is the seventh round pick. They actually traded it to the Toronto Maple Leafs for the Dead. A police 2021 seventh-round pick. I don't know if you guys had any quick thoughts on this I you know seventh-round picks or seventh-round picks and I guess you can't reach too far off the seventh round. Maybe they didn't have a guy, you know 570s that they could pick in the seventh round. I'm not sure but I didn't know if you had any thoughts on making that trade or free even matter to be honest. I thought strange I was what do you doing if you're going to make a trade with anybody do it and early around but yeah, I don't I didn't get it at all. See. It's not like the the projecting a certain player at the 7th around next season. It's just you know, I don't know if they were trying to do almost solid for a for you know, if leasing them on the raspy ill and then you know the whole first round with the castle and blah blah blah. So, who knows? Yeah. I thought it was just bizarre like again, it's not dead. You swapped them for next year's fifth round pick or something. It was like you rarely just traded another. So unless you think next year seventh-round is a lot deeper than this year seventh-round just seems kind of weird to me as seventh ROMs go. What is that someone in your Division? And you treat like so you're just swapping that I don't know. I just thought it was bizarre. Like is that a sign of something bigger or is that just like I really don't want to weed through the rest of this right now. You can have it this year. You seem to have someone you're eyeing. That was just that's all I have to say about that. I just thought it was more weird. Like like I said, like what's going? Oh, yeah, I agree. I thought I thought it was almost like it's because you can't pass you can't defer you just sent it for next year's and you'll figure up to 75 next year. I don't know. I was just kind of an odd annoyed mood move at the end of the draft move on to the next agenda topic and it's a familiar name that we've heard. The last few weeks Josh Anderson forward for the Columbus Blue Jackets. Was actually traded to the Montreal Canadiens from Max Domi in a third round pick and then subsequently signed a seven-year deal with Montreal which I thought was a bit of a head-scratcher. So looking back the Bruins and Josh Sanderson were connected very often. The last few weeks. Should the Bruins have made a similar offer to get him and you would think with Domi who is a restricted free agent. And the third you would assume it would have been debrusk at least a Brusque in a third should the Bruins have done that. I'll start with you have a month. I'm wondering about wasn't I actually I'm kind of wondering if we weren't in until I don't even know there was a lot of rumors about dabros going to Montreal. I'm not wondering if we didn't have that similar trade in the thing and it just didn't, you know, we tend to be in the next foot don't tend to actually get in the final whatever I absolutely think we should have made a bigger push though. I mean we talked about Doc Samson. Yes, if he we don't know his shoulder or whatever but as we talked about he is a pretty solid player. He's going to be in your lineup most days not anything major, you know, and at least meaningfully contribute off points. I again wish to talk to like you said with a seven-year extension that seems a little much for a guy that just came off major shoulder surgery or whatever, but that's just me but yes, I absolutely feel like we could have easily come back with something like that. Right? Cuz it seems we're going to end up getting up stuff anyways to really get something done at this point. Now where only three days into the offseason here really but things are heating up everywhere but here but yeah, I actually I don't know why like what what is it that we couldn't have offered Columbus and Josh Anderson, you know what I mean that he would go to Montreal unless it was a guaranteed 7-year extension off. I don't know for me. It was definitely a health issue. Let's see how that shoulder like you've touched on Heather. Also. Another thing that has to be considered is is that job Would would a deal like that happen with the Bruins so they might have talked about it and said listen, you know, if we if we do this trade I want to do a trade-in sign off if that wasn't discussed later on that might have been the the factor of the seventh year, you know, if you're not going to give a player like somebody we're going to talk about later on a seventh-year wife to go after a guy. That's that you don't know how history which is going to end up with that shoulder. I think that the Bruins are looking for shorter-term deals these days wage. I would love to have a player like Joss Anderson. He checks a lot of the boxes of that power forward the guy that gets to the net and doesn't take any shit. So, you know, I think they could have done something but I also I'm so worried about what could happen in the future if he takes a hit and the game one. We're stuck with that contract and and wage. Unfortunately, I don't want I don't want to see anybody injured but you know Montreal's really they really stacking them themselves up to be a a heavier team to play against I don't believe that they're going to be pushed around them anymore and burger Vans actually doing something good to to bolster his his defense and offense to be a little more competitive but Thursday, I mean the term was a little too much for me. It's a little too insecure and insurance policy. Yeah, it was seven years thirty eight and a half million. So I think in Sweeny got wind from the the agent that they were really looking for a long-term contract and Mantra was willing to do it and that's probably what made Sweeney Bach. I mean, he's it just seems right now that they're not really trying to commit long-term just probably because of the financial sort of uncertainty of what's going to be happening down the road here and again, like other states coming off major surgery and you had one goal last year's It's a real sort of mystery player. I still think he does check off some boxes for you size-wise and all that but I think you can get I put it this way. I I like Craig Smith more than Josh Anderson and not just because player four player, but because the circumstances involved he didn't have to give up anything for him. He signed into a very friendly deal. So I I like dogs. I like I think you know where you going to get from Smith? Yes, five twenty goals seasons and the last seven. So I think you know, it's pretty consistent Josh Innocents too much of a question mark to go that long-term. So I thought maybe I sort of agree the had the the Montreal Canadiens actually had an excellent draft to so to your point mark about about size and heaviness. They certainly gone that wrong in the draft. I know that Steve coreanos was raving about them and draft time cuz they seem to hit on all the guys that sort of they seem to have a plan and I I think that the, you know, I think the birth You can see a little bit of the plan if you really dig deep but it didn't seem to be quite the plan that much reality and I thought they really won the draft of certainly one of the top top teams in the draft wage, um on to the next item on the agenda and defenseman Matt grzelcyk restricted free agent actually file for arbitration after getting a qualifying offer those one point four million from the club's not surprising. He has arbitration rights that the low contract is is more valuable than that. Just wanted to know your thoughts and I'll start with Heather off. My thought on Griz like is I thought that he'd be sort of a three million dollar player going in before I saw this the salary structures going around and the deals going around so it could be that gets a little less than I thought which is certainly help the team when they're trying to add some more pieces. So I don't know what your thoughts were and just to just as an aside or an add-on to this Bruins haven't gone off. Tradition since 2008 and that was Blake wheeler on a 2.2 million dollar deal. The last guy was standing Heinen and they settled before arbitration for I believe two point eight months. So typically the Bruins don't like to go to arbitration when your your thoughts Heather on whether or not you think they will and what'd you think was like may get I gotta be honest. If I'm Matt grzelcyk after watching whatever just went down with crude the fact that our captain we had no word on whether he's getting re-signed whatever else I feel like a contract was a I get it's the you know, qualifying offer or whatnot. But Matt grzelcyk, I agree with you. I thought would be more they would give him something kind of like Craig Smith had like three four three or something like that. You know, that's kind of a bridge, you know, like Hey, we're all on the take one for the team mentality with our thing, but that's low. They only offered him like one for something that Matt grzelcyk is worth way more to this team and out in the league than that. So I think they'll settle before they actually get to that point because like Heinen did but I really think you are at least a two-month like you got any given him to 4 or give them to you know, that's I mean, he's proved his Worth to your team. He's worth at least two if you look at the quote unquote comparables, they always say out there on the market. He's definitely at least a two-million-dollar second pairing or whatever defenseman and I'm starting to think like is swing and I'm trying to dick this whole team that I'm sorry, but that's what I'm starting to think. So sorry boys move on. I'm having a hard week on my defensive side here. So don't make you can't so what do you guys offer? I think it's too low ball. That's kind of seems a little too low for me. Well in a salary cap world and and what they're trying to do right now and and twenty twenty and how everything is so compressed wage. I think that they are they were doing it smart to give him a qualifying offer which he accepted. He did accept that so it means that he wants to work with the team but it comes down to a whole dollar value and when that being said believe it or not an Arbiter really goes the trend or the or the percentage goes towards the player very long. Early, do they go in favor of the organization but like Matt brought up earlier. We haven't gone to arbitration with a player since 2008, correct? So so my my theory is is they offered them the qualifying office to say 1.5. He'll probably except right before they go to arbitration at 2.5 deal which is about at all. I was thinking the 3.3 to 3.5 million over the summer. So that's really not a bad range to be and so it will see what happens. I mean, I mean that that's a good defenseman and he's now you're you're fall back on that type of player that can be mobile has the speed maybe, you know, a little defensive Sounder, but you know, if you comparing apples to oranges he he's pretty much comparable to what we lost so On the on the other hand, you know the Bruins are kind of in a bind on the left side and Matt grzelcyk has some potential I think to be more than he's been a third pair, you know, basically sneak in projecting and maybe he could be first pair. I don't I don't quite think so just because of the size and and along wear and tear of the season but I think he you are in a little bit of a bind, you know, you're not heavy on the left side like you are on the right side. So that sort of you know, you sort of sort of you know, you just need to see what the deal is to see if you can make a deal but you kind of have to make the deal because you need we really need macros off this season, especially if you can't turn debrusk into a defenseman or or fill that hole, however, you see fit if you if you if you sign Taylor all across a million a year not going to have a lot of money left over for other guys on that left side. And I mean you bring showered back you can't be a top-pair. I'm sorry. I love z a lot, but you can't you just can't do it so long. And I don't know if bracelet can do it. But you need a combination of those two guys to fill that spot if you can't so it's an interesting. It's sort of an interesting deal. You also could look back and say the guys who they've gone arbitration when they've quickly gotten rid of later. I don't know if that's a coincidence or if that's something that happens and and leave sort of a mock. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Grizzly. I think he's a good player. I think he's valuable even more valuable than he probably should be based on the circumstances and it'll be interesting to see if they can work out a deal on that. I do want to say though. You know what I'm sick of hearing and everything. This isn't this is a general like everyone's saying that well that's weird because each other team seems to be able to be getting something done like something major to kind of show up there to go whenever they need to do and we're the only ones so now I am starting to feel like I want to fight with John Sweeney because I thought Feel like you can't do both. You can't go big or stay home. And that's exactly what you do. You kind of stay in the middle. So I'm sick of hearing that we can't do it when I'm watching everyone else sign. There are a phase with County Fair deals and everything else. So that's all I wanted to say before we move on to the next signing because my head wants to explode. Yeah. This is not what I needed on Friday night the next two items. Thank you very much when she comes to the salary cap, every team has their own philosophy. It's you know, it's it's it's different. It's not all the same. So the Bruins are so into creating cap-friendly deals to have the will go room to make sure that they can do something at the trade deadline. But in my opinion and I will I want to fight. When you myself to just for the time I'm kidding of course, but just this purpose is If we don't I mean we got somebody and what to talk about it later. I'm I keep bringing stuff up, but Sooner or later these free agents out there going to be looking at Boston and say listen, I could go there for sure short-term deal, but then my other contract I want to stick around is probably going to be talked down to because they do the you know, the Team friendly thing so that to me possibly could deter us some some high-profile free agents from coming here so hungry, I think that their philosophy needs to change a little bit and and whether that be in the front office, I'm I'm wrong with that. I you know, I like Dawn speaking and everything. It's a great guy, but sometimes I just really think that his his his just the way he does things and the way the the management does think it's just it's not up to par so but they are in a better position than I am, but we'll see what happens but it's it is frustrating. I I do understand other. Yeah, and I and I I agree it it you raise a really good point about the free agents coming and then looking to extend further of people around the league see that and I also think it it's just interesting to Bergeron called Craig Smith and talk to him about the fed and how guys do things a certain way and buy into you know the system and taking a little bit less in worked. But as Bergeron these guys leave I don't think I think you've already seen inventory proved is that eventually you don't have guys who are going to take discounts. So I think that this Court House Inn Bergeron's been a big factor, maybe even more than we thought when it comes to taking lesser money as past question acted as marketing did is Sherry has done so often crude not taking less and now other guys, maybe not coming or seeing the handwriting on the wall. I think it raises a really good point that that maybe it does affect birth. You know people signing here and then will they be fully committed because the team isn't fully committed to them sort of thing. So raises an interesting Dynamic that you paid for a lump and didn't really think of it that way but it all sort of comes together. When you think of the core like Bergeron who have taken less money and then they can talk to players and say hey take less money. We did we're in this together and it's worked to a point, but maybe it's not working so much anymore. So that's an interesting interesting thought a guy who's been around for a while. He hasn't been on the ice as we wanted to next conflict is Kevin Miller defenseman who feel like he feels like he hasn't played for the better part of two years has shoulders that are about to just disintegrate and but he was brought back hand sort of a surprising move for me and they bring him back for a one-year deal bigger was and it was captured a 1.25 wage. Million as a depth peace. I I like Kevin Miller and I and I feel terrible for what how his career is gone and so forth and he is a tough tough player. He does bring an element of toughness to the defensive Corps, which I think they miss I just think they have some young guys who I'd rather see in there and I think they have enough especially on the right side. It's just I don't know. I I feel like a jerk for saying this but I just think the time for Kevin Miller is done and I think this is a Sentimental move and I think they've done this a few times players when they feel a little sentimental value there and I don't know Mark. I I I like Kevin Miller to a point but I like them free years ago. I mean right now we've 33 he's coming off major injury. He hasn't played a long time. I don't know if this is a guy that you really want to invest anything and to be honest. Yeah. I'm not a fan of this at all. I this is a buddy buddy thing in my life. And then this is you've really grinded for this organization. You've did everything that you needed to do from Providence up to the NHL level. And this is a I believe a pat-on-the-back kind of thing. And yeah, I mean, I I understand the depth. I understand it. It's a low cap, but speaking of that cap cap friendly came out not too long because they didn't have the implications of what the contract structure was going to be like concerning bonuses, but his actual TV which which is just pissed me off even more about this page actually two million dollars. Yeah, but his cap hits 125. So if you look if you look at if you look at the the bonus details games played bonus. He gets $550,000 for ten games. No, I'm sorry. He gets $550,000 in bonuses. Ten games 250k 20 games 125k 30 Games 100K forty games 75k playoff bonus 200k and if the club qualifies for the playoffs and the and the player played in 50% Of the games he gets another thing and a contract note. We show Miller having a $250,000 signing bonus when when he's actually on the back on a roster bonus, which is it's it's totally weird. Yeah, so I'm hoping out in two different different sort of touch points where he gets to a certain point and but I I agree with you, you know, it's it's still a little bit of a lot to invest and I don't know how they're happy or a defenseman van. And uh, I think if it was on the left side, I I I would think about it a lot more as it would make sense a little bit more but on the right side, I just don't think you need this to be honest. Okay, so I know probably the listeners a waiting for me to melt on during the Tory crew talk which will happen. I noticed Mark can't even say Tori crew cuz he doesn't want me to start number. That's fine. But thank you. I appreciate that brother cuz you know, it's rough but this makes my head want to explode no offense to Kevin Miller and I have made very clear how I feel about Kevin milk have the Miller's a lovely man, but there is a hundred and fifty two other can stand up big kind of defenseman on the team and I agree that this is totally a loyalty contract. And the reason it makes me want to split my head open is you haven't even had a game in two years and you're going to give Matt grzelcyk one for as a qualifying offer and you're gonna who isn't injured and he's been consistently in your lineup. You gonna let Torey Krug walk over a year to give Kevin Miller up to two million dollars. If you play 10 games, give me a break. I want Charlie to have that contract before I want him to have that contract and I agree with you. It's not like he's going to a gym. Of the left side. Now, we have all the oh, this is a shock of shocks. We're right defenseman heavy again. And the left side is looking like it's about to disappear. I mean Jesus cherry doesn't have a contract is gone Grizzly, who knows, you know, I just this contract for all the reasons Mark just listed. I just this is the point in which Don Sweeney and I so I waited around patiently all day on Friday for something to happen to have Kevin Miller in kind of a mercy contract get re-signed that's ridiculous to me. I just it's no offense to Kevin Miller like it sucks how it's all gone down with your career really does suck. You know what I mean? I understood when we had to even keep Miller & McQuade cuz they're kind of the same player. I get that but you're going to like Krug walk. You're going to maybe like Grizzly go end up out in the you know, which they'll probably settle and that's fine. But we seat till maybe waste this one point two two two million dollars like I need a giant Pickaxe shoved inside of my head right now. Like this is I don't know what they're doing. I don't know. I normally Trust on Sweeney but then you sign Kevin Miller on the first day of free agency. Like Iraq does nobody want to play in Boston and I'm starting to think no one does for all the reasons Mark said before as Bergeron in them start going away. It's not going to be attractive. Even if you get a new training facility and all these other things, I'm sorry. I have no words cuz I do not understand the signing like I would rather take that extra mail. If you're not going to sign Torey Krug and go get Petra Angelo know what I mean. Like Jesus. What are you thought we doing? I don't know what we're doing and you're right defense is very important to me and I I'm starting to melt down just generally about our defense. What is going on with this Kevin Miller bottom at I'm sorry. I think it's a match point. I think it's a it's a funny. It's a buddy deal and it's a it's a thanks for your for everything you've done for us and really try really hard to get off. In the united sense of worth and put you what your body on the line for us. I think that's in luck. It's only 1.25 million cap. Can I get it? Like it's not a $5,000 deal. But you get if you start playing that game gets it can get a little dicey and you can get caught with your pants down if you keep if you do the same thing with with a guy like a Kevin Miller and again, he hasn't played a couple of years. So I I think you're going to need every ounce of money you get and when you have about eleven million left right now and after a snack Miller signings and if you sign hold for like seven now, you're done before with depressed and gross up there. I mean, it's the money goes quick and you were in a good spot to begin with but the money goes quick especially for the box here next year. You're in a better spot but this year and all you can get you can be up against it. If you can't move a couple of guys, you can't move jungles contract makes it now they they have Miller and log Orange on war right now a four million dollars against account like to a minute just that's just not good not smart hockey know it's like business. So I I again it's not a knock on Kevin Miller. I respect them for for working so hard to get back at it respect the way he plays hooked up guide, but I don't know. I think you have seen young guys who I'd rather have in their books because I'm interested in the Samsung 65 games then Kevin Miller and cuz he won't be in their sixty five games. They'll be hurt with an aching and then you're stuck with this money. So I'm just not a fan breach crazy. I mean it just it's just not I don't know. It's just not and again, I feel nitpicky because it's really not a lot of money but it's just think it's it's not it's just not something that you need to do is just not something that you need to do and it's like you see if you got rid of John Morris contract yesterday and then said, okay. Do you have another will give you one point two five? I feel a little bit better about it, but but you're not really getting birth. Recon drinks and you kind of sliding that in with Charleton there and you know, there's a lot of sort of pieces still to be to be done in like just about them. Next on the agenda is the departure of Torey Krug and finally and it's sort of out of the blue so to speak and plan intended. Yeah, that's what the st. Louis Blues hockey team. That really wasn't on the radar there. But I think when they got sort of to the point where they thought that Alex pietrangelo was not coming down then they went to a plan B that sorta was off the radar on a bit for me and sign Tory Group of Seven million. Sorry seven years and 4 6 and 1/2 million per year. So I my thought was this in Tory Burch had some interesting comments saying that the Bruins offered him a year ago and then really didn't come back to the offer and ended up pulling it later on when all we sort of heard about what room was was that there were still home. On The Wire that the Bruins were giving a little bit more of an offer and then gives one final offer and it's still on the table and still open at coming back but didn't seem like that was really the case off again. I said this all along I'm okay with it. I'm okay with not investing seven million dollars seven years rather to a thirty-year-old undersized defenseman off in a grand scheme of things isn't really a great defenseman so to speak and I've also looked at some numbers Power Play Lies where the top-line power-play TalkBack unit is actually had just as good production with a not there and it's really centered on the floor words rather than him. So there's been some interesting stats going around interesting information about that. Look, I think he's a good player and I think that he MLK with him and you know, even at 5 and 1/2 6 but like five years would make me feel a lot better than seven. So if they want to if the bridge to investing in then that's fine. But I'm I'm okay with it, but it was just odd that it was Saint Louis after all that losing to them in the Cup Final and the the whole Robert Thomas situation when he ran him over and it just seemed like a team out of the blow. So I don't know. I don't know whether that just really hurts you so I'll give you the floor on this one. Okay, I'm going to need a minute voice. I'm sorry. Okay. First of all, I'd like to thank tone crib for a service. I know he's probably not lessening but it's not just me a lot of Bruins fans. I think as Matt you just pointed out. We're more shocked that this happened. I knew this was a possibility and I'm a grown up and I am a super sports fan, but I can also separate reality from whatever like the Life Will Go On Tour a cruise to st. Louis blue. We knew he could be not here. Thank God. He's not a montage. Canadian okay. I'm talking about one. If anyone's wondering I'm not doing okay, especially after Kevin Miller in this for me the biggest thing of this whole entire thing is how Shady this all went down. Right? So for a year, we've been led to believe the Bruins and crew have been in talks and as a fan base even Friday, right all of us are like, okay, what's up with, you know, whatever only to find out that they had, you know, this is a tale of two process. Right? So Torey Krug basically comes out and says, they pull my offer that they offered me a year ago didn't even come back and we kept hearing how he seemed on board of like, okay after the playoffs after we get back in the plane, you know, it didn't seem like Torey Krug wasn't playing the I want to be team-friendly now, we all agree seven years, even I as a tour approval of our seven years is a long time, right but as Mike has pointed out on Twitter the last couple of days you couldn't have dropped a seven mil six mil contract on him. Like he would have stayed. You know what I mean? He's he's leaving the only team he's ever known after birth. I mean it's nine seasons of being on the actual team of eleven years of being in the system and in Providence and stuff that to me sends exactly the message that Mark was talking about. Yeah, we're loyal to you to a point. You know, now don't Sweeney says, hey we couldn't come to term and rear Admiral put the funniest thing. Yeah, like seven years not term, you know to me I'm most upset it went down like this month. And also now there's like the boys are tweeting each other and instagramming each other with all the sad goodbyes. I can't deal with it again. It doesn't make sense to me. You're going to sign Kevin Miller who hasn't been on the ES1 damn time. Right, but you're not going to maybe give Torey Krug 746 cuz I guarantee you if you offered them 746 you would have taken it and I do agree that maybe six is even a little encores age, but I can't dance with he's acting shady this week. Okay, even yesterday with Chara's kind of like, oh, yeah, you know, whatever. Charlie deserves the one to more than Kevin Miller does not to be a bitch. Excuse my language. I'm trying not to swear Mark. I really really am so sorry. Sorry. I think the thing that upsets me most about Torey Krug and go off on him. Right? We all agree Torey Krug deserves as money. Okay. So if it took one year an extra 500, whatever it is good for him, but to have him the news of him signing with Saint Louis break why you have Kevin Miller giving his presser about reciting with the Bruins. You guys are so lucky you can't seem to right now cuz I'm stuck to lose. My that is ridiculous and then white or a cruise giving us presser as the new and when I saw st. Louis defense and that's when I started just I can't deal with this right now. They break the light Bank Story video coming from NHL Bruins.com. Hey, here's a you can't see anybody has a double middle finger to all of you and the Bruins organization at this point. Like that's not it's j d. Okay, I'll shut up now and let somebody else talk but it's just Shady. Don Sweeney is acting very shady the last four or five days. And I don't know what the truth is why The Croods truth is the real truth a dawn Sweeney's is in the real truth. But either way this isn't a good luck on the ruins. I don't think cuz if you're not going to be loyal to play a like Torey Krug who synonymous with at this point with the Bruins again, that's to what my mom said. It's going to make future free agency. Like well if I'm not Bergeron or Marshall and then what the hell do I want to play in Boston and play the tax and all this other crap, you know, sorry. All right, I'll show it office or story. I love you. All right. It is what it is. I kind of thought we were going to lose him anyway, but I think it's very shameful that they didn't get anything for him. All these talks of trade-off. Reading his rights for a draft pick. I thought would have been a little more suitable, but wait until the eleventh hour and nothing happening. And then he pulls the trigger on signing with the the st. Louis Blues was a little unfortunate. I'm definitely going to miss Torrey, you know, he wasn't my favorite defense but not my favorite player, but he played a a pretty key role on the PowerPlay. He was a point-per-game her and some of those some of those defenseman like him just don't grow on trees. So hopefully we can find a replacement for him and those numbers and that power play production. But I you know, when you want to make certain moves forward and you want to address certain needs like like full words and so on you need to obviously have the cap space to do it. So this is probably a cash moved to by not keeping him around and having some flexibility on addressing those needs. I just said so I thought it was a little shady on how everything came out whether wage Sure, we're not who knows we're not we're not in the room. But if the Bruins did not have any words with him for a whole year in the reports coming out that what three weeks ago that they offered them six-by-six and then they pulled it. Well, then that's just bulshit before hitting and that's on the media to serve the the the controversy that's going on in Boston right now. So we'll see what happens. But you know, it's it was a good run. It was a good run and and hopefully he's going to be a better defenseman in st. Louis because those guys obviously may have seen how Saint Louis can play especially in the playoffs. They're real hard rugged team. So for every Torey Krug mistake, they'll be wanting big guy right there to make up for it so long, you know best of luck to him and and family and and I wonder if he's going to name his dog Bush now, I think it boils down to the dog. Ruins had a difference heavy. They're they're thought on Torey Krug as a player changed during this past season. I think that last if it's true that they offered in the year-ago for that pretty fair deal, which I thought would it was fair that he didn't have a great postseason the bubble. He just didn't play that well and it looked like he was getting bounced around a bit and all the fears that you have one on your side of the fence been seem to come to fruition against Tampa Bay in this last series in the second round and I think that often thought gee I think things changed and I think that the Bruins in that scenario thought okay, two years two years now in a row, we've lost to a heavier team in here comes down the pipeline and we've offered him last year because he was a very good they had before but now it just didn't seem like he played as well and I think that they hadn't changed a little bit of a game. Change of philosophy and change of heart and a realization that we gotta get a little bigger, you know, if we're going to put this kind of money into players then they have to we have to be heavier and bigger and playing More Physical style. And I think that that's I think is sort of lines up that way that that's probably what happened and why it wasn't Revisited even in the last few weeks here with him. So I'm thinking that that's what the cause was of sort of looking a little shady and weird, but I think that they were in a position where they said, you know, what we've been fighting it and we had to get back to more physicality in to sign this guy anywhere long-term seven years, whatever the big deal is just not in line with what we need to do going forward and everything else sort of Point bigger and more physical grinding sort of style and it wouldn't have lined up that way. So I'm thinking that maybe that's the case. I think they like Tori a lot and I think the saddest song No, but the business side of it, I think they went a different route. And I think when you go a different route, it's hard to tell the plan. What do you say like? Yeah, we we offered you a year ago, but now we we don't want to do it anymore, So it's it led to an awkward situation and I feel bad for Tori cuz he he was an underdog Boston loves underdogs fans love my dogs and he was an underdog four years under sized undrafted free agent the whole thing and that's part of the reason why the fans love them so much but I think if you take a step back, you can't you can't get to the point. We took him in and overpay him and then commit too long to him and I think that that's really what it boiled down to the Bruins. It's okay if they take that money and go somewhere else with this. Yeah, if they don't then it looks off the off season is far from over so anything can happen, but as a weekly podcast, we just kind of touch on all the news that we're trying to to gather but off. If if this offseason continues like this, and we're not able to to to land any big free agents and especially not able to to replace that spot off then this is not going to look good. This is going to be a face wash and Don Sweeney cam Nealy space. I was going to say that's my last Point like obviously as and I don't as much as I appreciate all the other fans out there. I think Mark can attest. I'm the original Touareg and girl. Yes always will be but that's my thing is at this point. We all knew he goes. Oh, okay. So that's not what I'm about. I'm sure it's Shady. So now do something Don Sweeney and this doesn't make me wonder if maybe because Don Sweeney and cam Neely's asked as a kind of under the fire a little bit odd because of how things have rolled out the last two postseasons, right and it actually makes me wonder just like, you know, people want to sit on them to go. Well, maybe Tori in them, maybe Tori in his teammates knew that the ruins hadn't come back. To them and they kept repeating. Maybe they're talking about the daily offered him last year. Maybe we don't know what's going on. I mean the week started with him and passed out shit-faced on the boat like me. Like I'm just saying and I love that. I love the fact that they had that you know, and like I said the last few days and I totally and I just want to say I've always said I understand Tori who's not a defensive defenseman you need like, you know, I think him and Colin her ankle a a very sexy defensive parent. That's how they end up paying them up. You know what I mean? But do something now Don Sweeney and I don't know if it's cam Nealy or if it's Don Sweeney or it's just like Mark said you guys have said that we're changing our philosophy, which I think we need to a little bit but now do something don't undersell Griz and not even mention are freaking captain and just like dance around it. But re-signed calling Miller do something. That's all I'm asking. That's all that I know you guys can't see any but that's all I'm asking. Do you think that crude misread the situation cuz I almost feel like he thought going in he's going to get a certain number has certain number in his head at a certain term in his head and then wage really came down to just one more year and white five hundred thousand more so than wasn't a ton more. Do you think that when they finally pulled the offer do you think that he thought he sort of misread it and then when he went back and said, you know what she's you know, maybe I should take this deal and they pulled it then he ended up sort of having to go to Saint Louis because it almost seems strange that he he mentioned in the press conference. Yeah, they pulled the offer really haven't had conversations in a while and and so forth and there's almost like was on his mind that I have this sixth for, you know, 6 or 38 or whatever that was deal and maybe should have taken it then and then didn't and because of financial situation and team sort of having a you know, salaries going down and being callback. Just that maybe he it was just a bad timing situation and then it take the deal away and I was like, you know, this is all I really have now. I can't go back to the Bruins and say yeah, it's not worth the one more year to change my whole life and to leave my beloved team. So I don't know if that it's just made me sort of Wonder. I don't know what your thoughts were on that. My thoughts on that is this I think that and this is why I think it's so shady, right? So if it seems to me Don Sweeney keep saying I absolutely respect Tori and go and get your money or whatever, right? So he goes on the free market and he finds out he's probably going to get sick side. He might get his term or whatever else now. I feel Torey Krug as an undersized undrafted player. That kind of makes you almost more loyalty team. I mean again, like people keep posting half past and doing the light decent. I mean, he's a brewing do you need Torey Krug is a freaking Brewing. He is small or otherwise that proven it and I think he probably came back after seeing whatever wage And maybe said, you know, how about 7 for six, you know and then give me that extra five hundred K now early, right? Because I am older and what will happen. Maybe I won't make the seven this might be a better investment may give me 746 whatever. I'd rather stay here. I'd rather be I can't believe that it's a great thing like Tori crew and then he came back and the Bruins decided against it which makes it even more or Shady to me because even if he had come back and tried to renegotiate he wasn't asking maybe too much more than what you were already offering. You know what I mean? That's what I think is I think that as long as John Sweeney keeps saying I I care if the plate the player can go and get it as money or whatever but maybe Tori did go and look around and came back and said, you know what you give me one more year you give me five hundred thousand a year less and they wouldn't give it to him and that's what up. Like that's what's confusing to me or upsets me is that that seems to be again? We don't know. What's true. We don't know if what dong He says or whatever and say both least certainly try to knock out nice each other. But Tori was very blunt. And Torey Krug is known as being kind of upfront kind of like to go right he kind of says what he's saying. He's not trying to sugarcoat anything. So that leads me to believe the players more than whatever and the way it's been acting. I think he may be overplayed his hand in the way that like you maybe he trusted gone Sweeney in that. I'll go and see what's out there and I'll come back and then we'll figure something out and then kind of got burned on the way back and that's on the organization and that's not a good look for the Bruins. You know, I guess that's my thoughts on it. I'm sorry. I can't talk about real life game. I don't want to cry been drinking some pick one here. All right, we're going to take a quick break talk in here from the great Folks at the store next door and we'll get back into some topics shortly after that that check out the store next door. C A a great Halifax Nova Scotia company doing great things for great people will be right back. All right. Thank you for giving me my little rant about Tory group because all the last four days this is in no more touring crew talk after this. So you get it in Tori Chrome in st. Louis blue. Now. What am I supposed to do? It wasn't that bad? Didn't I behaved pretty well you see me? Yeah, I can I can hear you getting a little emotional well getting emotional now because I feel like I'm gonna fuck everybody. All right. All right. Hello, I can't I'm so pissed off at Don Sweeney right now. I can pick up where we doing. We're just going to continue this or take a break. I am ready to continue. I don't know what you guys feel. I could either stop it ago. I don't care. I'm ADHD. So I always like a 5 to 10 minute break. But if you guys want to go find all right, we'll take a break then. All right, I'm all right, Matt. You're good to go on the 351. All right, 321. We're back and onto the next topic on the list and it's Craig Smith assigning by the Bruins former Nashville Predator projection a solid lines that are actually have scored at least 20 goals five of the last seven seasons. Bring some good secondary scoring. I love the signing. It's three years of the 3.1 million seems like a very friendly affordable deal excellent deal happen for three years. And I love the prospects of Smith playing with Charlie Coyle on that third line couple of park position. You guys smell shoots the puck a lot coil possesses a lot. So I think could be a line that's really difficult to play against one remark what your thoughts with was with Craig Smith. I thought a great deal and and our very own black and gold hockey.com writer Patrick Donnelly be used to had this out on October second job. That the Bruins should go after a player like Craig Smith and he was spot-on so good on him. I like the term like the deal and I like the fact that he's not going to be playing summer. I'm we we we have everything up the middle right now. So I'm he's going to be on the right side. I want to say it's it's going to be a toss between 2nd line and third line. It depends on how they gave us the second line in this free agency. And if they go after somebody like that and off or if they go after like Taylor Hall or whatever, we'll talk about that later, but but it was a good signing and and he seemed Robert happy to be a part of the Boston Bruins. I had a lot of good things to say and his interview and I'm looking forward to what he can bring because when you look at the underlying numbers and not analytics and so on he does bring a lot to the game and his five-on-five verse five points are are good and and and they're very odd. Active so and don't swing you said the same thing in his press conference when when they got them the free agency, press conference that you know, I think Connor Ryan was was talking about how much analytics played a role in and having him come into the the Boston Bruins team. So and he said it did play a big role in his five one. Five numbers were were a strong Catalyst to make that move. I feel like another I I want to preface this by saying sometimes hockey Twitter you want to say just cuz your blood is first in the room doesn't make you the rightist person in the room. Okay, so I'm not upset about the Craig Smith signing cuz he is a solid he's proven he's going to play his games and he's going to produce you about forty points of season and not so great. But what bothers me is I'm not worried about my bottom sex so much. I'm worried about my Toxic song. So maybe like Mark just find it out. There could be a chance that he actually ends up being krejci or Bergeron. Who knows what's going to happen with this team? Right? But in the top six, he is a solid 40 game. I'm not mad about that the 3.3 but given everything else that has happened annoys me because now I'm going to have to listen to everyone bitched. Why can't Sydney could get to play? Why can't I ever get to play? Well, you can't continue to sign people from the outside know this is the thing right Mark. I see you making the face you can't see my face, but what I'm saying to you honey is I would want these kids to give to play and stop signing people like the Craig Smith of the world or I want to sign the Craig Smith the world and not have to hear about why the kids don't have a spot. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, they can get off I can get rid of cascia. Gosh, it could be Expendable. Currently. We haven't gotten right Akasha though is the bigger issue, right? Like currently we haven't gotten rid of him or more or any of these other kind of job. Or whatever so I don't care whether it's the Negro or guards Craig Smith. Sorry, I almost called you Greg. I apologize Craig Smith. I do welcome you to the Bruins wholeheartedly regardless of anything else that has happened, but it's like a weird situation cuz again, you signed a solid bottom-six guy great, but that leaves so much bounce do we do from here? This can't be he can't be our big signing. That's me. You know, I just that's just me. Go ahead man. Sorry. I I I agree. I I I agree to a point across the whole bottom six thing a lot of prospects that have been coming up in you know, Anton blidh and Carson Coleman and I'm just pure in all of these guys we've heard about the last three or four years since you going on five years like and we've heard about all these kids and what they can bring to the table if they can contribute and very few of them have this battle. So I don't know there's a dead As a there's sort of a ticking Time Bomb here where you got to decide what you're doing with those young guys. And I think this signing shows that they don't really believe that some of those guys give them throughout the course of the Season into the postseason what they want and again there was a philosophy of speed and skill and and skating ability and now it's going more toward size and I think that leaves out guys like cumin and Bjork and and those other people that it doesn't fit with their model going forward. So there's going to come across roads here where they decided that they do with those guys. I do like approval NHL player though and I'll take a proven NHL play with three million a year any day of the week and and you know, you can wait for these other guys to come and play and off, you know, we heard about four spec Houston and it was gone and all of these people Ryan Fitzgerald and all of these young guys never really materialized and heard about how long Could rent rent Frederick's in that in that as well. I mean this this is the year where either you're going to be an initial player or you don't so, I don't know. It's I'd rather take the proven guy and Craig Smith is there and I think you'll do some really good things on either the second or third line with the prompt. So going on to our next item, which is you talked about the big the big signings Heather Ann Taylor Hall would certainly be one of them. One of the biggest ones of the offseason. He's narrowed his list down. It seems to be Nashville and Boston National Guard longer-term. It seems off alleged 7-year offer in the Bruins of more of a three-year off or maybe a 21-7 million a year we could hear about this signing any time now, I have a black and yellow he was off my grid for a while. I just didn't think he was going to come to Boston or Boston was even going to be that interested in him and now they seem to be I don't know if they played Coy, I don't know if they thought dead. Before this whole landscape of of salaries lowering and financial responsibility that they thought he was out of their league and now isn't so now they're in their Pond it off. So maybe it's a late bloomer type situation. I think if you get them in a pretty good number, the only caveat we have is that a good sign for seven million a year. You may not have enough to sign a left shot defenseman or Jake debrusk or Grizzly shower. Dabros minute again, the money goes quickly. So I don't know like what your thoughts are on all it'd be a big signing. Is it off really good offensive player. He hasn't played on grade teams. So I don't know. I don't know. I'm sort of back and forth on it, but at a shorter-term, maybe I'd be okay. I'm I'm good with it off the terms. I mean, you gotta be good with it. You gotta be also good with it to make your other signings to I mean if you if you go get Hall you don't break. I'm completely fine with that. You know, we have we have sustainability on the back end that we can get away with with moves like that. We need to address the secondary scoring issue because if the if the the three guys on the front line can't do it. We need to have some kind of wave or some layers that can put the puck in the net and in get it on that. So secondary scoring needs to be addressed regardless of if it's Taylor Hall or anybody else that's out there that's available. They've they've got to be Point producers and and you're going to pay for those those guys are going to be at a premium. But how has been mentioning saying that he could take a short of money for a shorter-term cuz he's in that win now kind of kind of window for himself and his life like a career, you know, he's approaching thirty years or 28th 29th at that range. So this might be an opportunity for him to go somewhere for short-term to get it done and then off. Get that nest egg on the on the next contract either with that team that that got him or move on to another team, you know, he seems to be making the rounds lately. So, I just want to see the the 505 the power play and I think this guy checks the boxes on a lot of that right there, but you're going to pay so I don't want to go into the like the nine million dollar range think he's going to get that even out on the market if if some team was available to pay him that but I think that a seven deal a seven million is not that bad and you have wage of five about four million to play with so you can get hopefully you can get depressed done too. But who knows? I mean, there's so many so many variables with with debrusk write down our what he's going to do or what he could Garner in the trade. And the other thing is if you trade dabros, can you bring somebody in like I'd left out defenseman you can have enough money to pay him. So it's it's just it's a mind-boggling Avenue Pub. That that need to be discussed thoroughly before just going out and saying let's get this guy. Let's get that guy. So and the way you think about well, I think you've kind of summed it up with the whole tail all thing as they've done nothing on defense. It's like you kind of think that they might do something on defense, right? But at the same time it's really the top six scoring that we have to address if you're going to let the Tory Cruise the world go and blah blah blah. I'm sorry Mark to mention Torey Krug. It's just using it as an example. Like you gonna let that money go right the term that you would be paying that player, right? If it's not going to be tail Holly has to be a boy tailored to fully or whatever, you know, you have to finally address. We have a gap in a secondary scoring right now. I'm really concerned about defense right now because we don't know what the hell's going on back there. Now, maybe we pull all the boys up from Providence next year great, who knows what will happen. So to compensate for them growing into the NHL players you need to address the top six scoring right? So I would like us to do something big just to show that we have balls at this point right to go out and get Taylor Hall whether they're short term for seven Mill for four years or whatever it is. Whatever it plays out to be we need to finally Shore up having, you know, we have really great 3rd and 4th liners righty Grinders and things like that that are willing to give for their team. So that means you pay for the rest of the top six finally go out and do it dead. So if it's not Taylor Hall or it's not entirely to fully we can't be crazy as we pointed out about cap space and what you will but at the same time if you can get tail of all for seven million for three years, that's a way it's a win for him. It's a win for us. It's a win for us that we get that short-term scoring. It's a win for him because he finally solidifies his legacy is you know what? I mean? He loves that's always bounced from crappy team to crappy team no offense to Jersey or the Oilers or you know, the coyotes I'm not trying to disrespect them, but I would have involved also. I just want to be right. I'm very someone who likes to be right and I would have taken Haulover Sagan in the beginning right? So if we sign him great if not, we need to still address that I could never be scoring and that's the thing that concerns me with what I've seen so far, so, I don't know how you feel about of it. Really? That's all I have to say about it. I love Taylor Hall. I can't I've said it before what do you think? What time? Jim Foley or someone of that ilk. What do you think is the most important thing at this point as defense is in limbo? Well, I I you know, the thing that keeps creeping back into my head off on holidays. He kind of has a kind of has I guess you can consider under a Shiba even though he has almost a point-per-game in his career just seems like as the number one overall pick. He wasn't a superstar that he should have been could have been and you wonder playing in sort of smaller markets and lesser organizations if the pressure of coming to Boston for wage, you know, if he has it in him to really take it all on and be that type of guy because that's what you're going to kind of need for the value giving him. I think that the Bruins have tried to make important moves to change the roster or to improve the roster but doing it in an affordable price. So they've kind of waited the game out to see if the salaries will drop even more and even more in someone Falls in wage. The amount Without Really overextending and getting a guy for Big Money big term because I think they're worried about what's going to happen the next year or two with the cap and with the league in the revenue. So I think they're playing this tightrope game of all this waiting out game where we waited out, wait it out. Maybe someone falls into our lap a little more affordable and trying to preach Thursday. We can bring you a cup rather than we're going to give you a ton of money. So and it's a dangerous game because sometimes you don't get what you want in the end. I think I'm leading, you know, I wrote about this and black hockey. A couple of weeks ago at least that they were going to be looking for cheaper options because the it's just lined up like it looked like they were they were talking a big game but in actuality it wasn't going to happen because of a multitude of different things, but the money and Jeremy Jacobs not making revenue from events since March birth. Is concession stands makes the difference? So I just started it lined up as being a sort of a let-down and not what fans might have thought it would have been home. So it is lining up that way and I wouldn't be surprised we're going to the bronze end up with Craig Smith Jake debrusk Mac Brunswick Zdeno Chara and then just see what happens during the course of the game and give it a couple of months into the season to see where you're at because it's certainly lining up that way. I don't think the breasts is going to get as much as you thought certainly not. Yeah. I don't think Grizzly it's going to be that much as you thought and you may end up with those guys back and then just sort of making it work and seeing what you have for a couple of months and seeing if you get fans in the stands and all those different aspects of it. Maybe there's too much unknown in that regard. So I don't know. I think that Hall I'd like to see if you don't get Hall. I'm just really worried about that whole whole thing with that kind of money. Tell it to Foley is very attractive Mike Bachman, you know is a pretty good player on the reminders his girlfriend, you know, so Dad enough he's still around and I don't see here many offers about him off his back in on it. So, who knows? I mean, maybe it gets someone a little cheaper and maybe the waiting out actually rewards them in the end. But again, it's a it's a it's a slippery slope you can end up with nothing unless you know instead of what you have currently and it may end up being that way and it's going to be a letdown fans going to be screaming from the from the top of the balcony, but it could end up that way. So, you know, we'll see next item on the agenda in Mark loves his goalies in Pittsburgh Penguins signed former Providence Bruins goaltender dead. Max and gassing and this is an interesting move for the Bruins. They have two NHL goals on one more year on both of their deals unrestricted after that long and then they signed Daniels with her for three years. Just this past year weird timing right during the postseason and then they have Kaiser and they have swim and and jury is still out on whether we're off in play and maybe not be the ECHL could be the age who knows where it will be who knows will be playing in the minor league system this coming season. So what does it happen? I'll start with Mark down. What does it happen for their goalie depth? And and what could they do with some of these pieces? First of all Max played a very instrumental role in the success of the Providence Bruins last season. I bought he was a very well a very good veteran for Dan Pradesh of Lennar last year. So he did what he did his service I thought The impression and I heard from sources at the Bruins were interested in possibly bringing them back. But now I'm also hearing that the Bruins are probably interested in in bringing another depth goaltender a veteran spend around who knows. I'm hearing some words of possibly exact Zane McIntyre, but it would just be adapt thing. It wouldn't be an NHL replacement or anything like that. But the next topic I want to talk about will definitely play into another role on on spinning things. So often talk about that later on but the Lagasse thing was I mean, it was just a short-term thing. I think that he sees a better path to the NHL in Pittsburgh, then he would in Boston. So that's probably why he took a deal there was $700,000. It's a one-year two-way deal. So And you know Matt Mary's out of Boston. He went to Ottawa don't immediately know and Christian Tristan. Jarry is is pretty much the guy right now. So I'm playing time, you know, who knows? I mean, he could definitely be a backup which is probably better than you know money in the age L. Let's put it that way so good on Max. Thanks for the the the the several interviews that I've had with them down at the Donk really nice guy and that could never understand a damn word. He says because his his his French is so thick it really is it it's it's hard to understand. I remember having a conversation with them when I was talking about and I think I don't know if he was nervous or anything like that. But I was talking about goaltending Coach is Mike. My name is Sandra and he and he kind of came back to me. It's like yeah the good players. I thought he thought that they were players out on the ice at that particular night. So I don't think he really understood what I was what I was saying. and I kind of kind of fumbled it a little bit but and ended the conversation there, but you know, it was just one of those things but Yeah, I mean it sucks to see him go. I mean, it's such a good guy. It really good goaltender. I mean he was he was ranked in the top ten in many categories. He was second in wins with 22. He had two point five goals against average the same percentage wasn't great at at 9 and 1719 something like that. So but it was just you know something that I wanted to bring up that he was he was it was he was good and and it's not a big loss. But you know, we'll see what happens, What do you think about the the goalie situation in Providence? Well, as long as I trusted Mark, right, I know he's a big fan of Max Lagasse he did. All right when he was down there at the same time. I just feel like we're at deal with what we have right? Maybe June and halak and moving on to Jeremy swimmin and Danville Adara if that's what were happening. I don't know like, you know, I'm a big like let's bring back to kids see what happens Thursday. I agree. It sucks to see him go because he is someone who has some experience and what you will but I don't know as always I defer to market the goalie situation my life. I you know, I think it's a very big year as far as the goal-tending concerned of what direction the team wants to go in because they have sort of an interesting situation with two to three thousand really good young goalies, and then to Veterans and good young good veterans are up after next year. So they have to decide whether one or two of these young goalies are going to be ready home. And it's a it's a lot to ask. So they're going to have to Bridget I would assume with another veteran. So it's it all depends on their development this year and it brings up an interesting point, you know, go down to our next topic here on the agenda is the Bruins ECHL minor affiliate is actually opted out for twenty Twenty-One. So that leaves no no ECHL, you know a phone number. Be a team for these kids to play with so what does that mean for the prospects and where they could go and in Mark. I know you have some information on some thoughts on this and where they could be loaned to play. All right. So with the the Atlanta Gladiators have been the the the double A minor Pro affiliate for several seasons now last year, they signed a one-year agreement off, but that that ended with the Cove it shutdown of everything else. So they technically don't have an East Coast Hockey League affiliate. I was told by great sources that there was going to be another affiliation agreement with the Bruins in Atlanta, but now Atlanta is as opted out of play due to the reason why they could still going on but the infinite arena in in near near Atlanta thrives on other events that go on it's just off. Hockey so and the state of Georgia has an occupancy limit of 25% So it wouldn't work reading the Articles page of Atlanta. The operating costs would oversee any ticket sales at 25% So it's not good business. So they just shut it down. So but what that does is it puts the Boston Bruins in a very interesting predicament when it comes to the goal-tending like you mentioned so it was my theory that the that the the information that I came from a really Solid Source was the Bruins wanted to get a veteran goaltender the vet and Videl would be in Providence swayman and and Kaiser would be in Atlanta. Now that's gone. Now do the Bruins don't do they do not want to bring in a veteran now and now make it a flood are swimming in tandem in the the South American Hockey League if and when they actually start because I got some information on that too or and then have Kyle Kyser just be out on loan much. Like what I'm Craig binging. What's his name? The guy join Jordan binnington did with with Saint Louis. They they didn't have an affiliate to go to he came to Providence so often similar to that but I don't know it's it's going to be interesting to to know what's going to happen with with that whole thing and I was talking to Matt about this about contracts with all this free agency going on right now. There's only been to HL contract signed. So that really doesn't tell me dead. That the the there's really a likelihood of when these guys are thinking they're going to start it might be a little earlier the NHL teams are just playing it safe and so on and then the age is going to but it's going to go it's going to go in order. So and a lot of people believing that the the the American Hockey League is going to start and early December. Well, if if the NHL's not starting till let's say the beginning of this of January to the middle the ahl's not going to stop in early December. It's probably going to fall in suit with what the NHL does so they're very lenient on see you can't see me I can see you perfectly fine Mark. Can you hear us what happened? And the name Rose a little bit honey, great. So why don't you released on just about like contracts and that's kind of where you are at and you are know I'll figure it out. I don't know something's going on all month. It didn't happen and now. All right for a second, no, just move on to the next topic will move on to the next topic and that's a no-charge areas. Does he get another job of the Bruins and right now they're in a position where if they do sign a Taylor Hall and bring on another contract then in with Jake debrusk still up in the air and macros are going on vacation is there or there'll be room for the damage that we signed on for another year? We do need some left shot to help as well. So Heather, I don't know your thoughts on Charter. I think that in my opinion, it's just weird to say he's sort of a secondary priority in my opinion if you can really improve the team and go and what you have and you don't need him then I think you have to make that difficult decision not to bring him back, but I don't know. Yes. Lots of lunch are. I don't know. I feel kind of torn on charger for a couple of reasons one. I absolutely agree with you. Like if we can sign someone that will really Shore up this nice. I'm sorry, but we have to move on but at the same time we are short on left on defense and now like things are crazy in that world. And it took others me that we would offer Kevin Miller money, but not Zdeno Chara. He's the captain of this team and not so much for that Zdeno Chara like it's not even a loyalty thing. But at some point if you're going to show a loyalty contract for Kevin Miller, you have to sign a loyalty contract for Catholic or do something big. Like I said, I mean if we get a left jab man on free agency, which is few and far between but now that I I guess I'm torn I absolutely was not want to stay on shower to go out the way that mm. 20 happen not. I mean like this was supposed to be his last year. We're supposed to win the cup with the best team like it sucks for it to go that way. And at the same time if we can use that million or two million now though, especially since we signed Kevin Miller who hasn't even played a game in two years. I also I respect of Zdeno Chara was going to keep saying even if it has to be somewhere else and that kind of brings me to a weird point in as a Bruins fan, right? I I don't know. That's just how I feel about it. I absolutely agree. You should be a third pairing defenseman at this point in his career, but I absolutely don't think so. Damn Charles last year played hockey should go out the way it did in 2020. So Mark, I don't I don't know how you feel about it. Like I'd rather than money go somewhere else if necessary, but at the same time you're going to give Kevin Miller money. I think you should offers a damn shower or something. Yeah. I'm down with Matt on the we do need left shot D unless we getting unless we're getting it via trade or something. I'm just I'm just I'm ready to move on. I say this. I I it's almost seems like I say this every week about chora just I'm ready to move on. I think the games get a little past him, but I find it interesting that other teams are reaching out for his services. So if if that has to be an has to be an option to I'm all for that that saves a little bit of money, but I want to address I want to get rid of the the old dog. Contracts or the ideas of of retaining all the players and put it into you know, what we need holes that need to be filled where we were exposed in the past two seasons, especially in the Stanley Cup finals against the the st. Louis Blues and then last year with the with the, you know, raining the eventual Stanley Cup champion Tampa Bay Lightning song, you know to me you gotta score goals and that's what one games at the that's what wins games at the end of the year. I am not I'm not I'm not a huge shower a guy get his own ship and everything like that. I I totally get it but these year by year by years are also blocking the progression of younger players coming up to the system. And I don't know I'm not I'm not ready to break loose faith and some of those guys yet because of an old veteran is just hanging on so sorry. That's my Jag. Yeah. It was interesting because it almost makes it seem like the Kevin Miller song. Is a sign that maybe they aren't bringing him back because if you're if you say it that way like why would they invest that money? Bring Kevin Miller back on the right side? If they really thought they were going to need change on the left side. Like it just doesn't make much sense to me. That's that's that's done explaining that that's totally John Sweeney. Don Sweeney wouldn't Don Sweeney wouldn't re-sign Charlie McAvoy Brandon Carlo, but he goes out and spends money on Harlan home Brett Ritchie and all this crap and it's just like it's it's a mind game. I swear to God with this guy and it's it's a month he gets to you know, the 4th liners and falls in love with these. I don't know if he's looking for Diamonds in the Rough for what he's doing or if it's just easier to to spend the million bucks on some fourth line or whatever and he doesn't really make that bold move. And and if the only bold moves he seems to make other all those wrong moves of overreaching for draft pick. Our boys are trading a high draft pick for Zac Rinaldo. Like just just sort of strange again it almost and I I want to not think it's just simple but it's almost like he just wants to show how smart he is and and he's a Harvard guy and very smart much more intellectual. I am but it just seems like there's sort of an arrogance. Like I know more than everybody else. So I'm going to make this move in. Sometimes it just hasn't panned out for them and it happens in the draft and it happens in free agent signings and it happens assigning your own guys and the Kevin Miller one is a head-scratcher when you when you pack with the charger situation cuz I just think that that money should have been if you wanted to bring them back should have been for a shower as a as a real sort of safety blanket for your life situation was assigned Miller on the right side. It leads me to believe that that they want to trade maybe one of one or two of the young prospects and they really dangle them out there because It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But you know what, I guess what do I know but I it would be interesting to see with Grizzly going arbitration and with depressed still hanging in the air and then trying to get jobs are left shark defenseman or a good scoring top-six Winger again, you're going to run out of money soon. So I don't know I would say though that maybe it's time for for Chara to move out cleaning or maybe he sits out some of the year that could be another thing that he does since I was a free agent and then Waits and sees what's you know, maybe he plays a second half of the year off type of thing which might be beneficial to him. You know, he said own and he he rests up and he gives you Thirty Thirty or forty really strong games toward the end and in the postseason, maybe that's the route he gave us who knows but it's just it makes the middle of signing even more strange next item on. The list is just as we mentioned take Jake debrusk off. You still sort of out there? Here's another guy who I thought was probably going to make more than he actually is. I thought he was probably going into the offseason or before the salary shook out before and half million player, maybe even five million a year player. Now, it looks like he's more we could be more of a free to Farina half million dollar player. So they bring him back. Do they wait and see what they can get as far as someone else or do they trade him to get some of that defensive help we're talking about two weeks ago. I would have said that Jake was gone now, but then I keep going back to this. I think we're I think we're going to end up with Craig Smith and everybody else that they that they already had but I don't know your thoughts on Heather. It's so hard to read this team at this point, right fundamentally our defense. We don't know what's going on. It's too much limbo on the back end right back, which is really weird because even given small and defense in this and that we've been one of the best defensive teams like yeah play in wasn't good for you know, whatever the play-offs return-to-play. I'm sorry. I didn't know remember what it was called. I would rather have given Charles the million just to give him his last year than Kevin Miller. That's just me. That's too big of a gamble, you know, but now it's so hard because I agree with you. I thought tourists was out of here as much as I love him as much as I do think he has value that's the point he has value he could have been a good trade. Whatever you will but now I feel like I agree with you, I as much as I think that Don Sweeney is a swing. Yes. I also think that that bites him in his ass off. Now like now we're three days into free agency. You're not willing to obviously give out money, but you're obviously not willing to pay the players. You do have like it's a weird situation against us maybe being packaged maybe with more or somebody else for something else. But at the same time if you're going to go that way like I want something big to happen because you've invested too much time and energy into bras, you know, he's becoming younger Nucor, you know, he's been around so long so I don't know. I'm just at a loss words cuz I think generally with free agency so far and thus far and how it's rolled out. I don't know Nebraska. I don't think is a five million dollar player. I think he's at least in the gas cap. Salary situation. I do think he needs to be more consistent. But at the same time if we can get real value for him. I want to do something with that, but I don't off. Because I don't have no idea what John Sweeney's doing at this point. You know what I mean? I don't mean to be ambiguous and not really have a lot of thoughts on the situation but I prefer debrusk stays here and maybe we get off line for krejci. But at the same time of Nebraska has to be packaged to go to really actually make a big move do something, you know, just generally I don't care if it's trade to process for a bigger name or whatever you're doing but five million is a little much but we also don't know what is QA is either right? We know what Grizzlies says cuz he's going to arbitration but we haven't really heard a lot of word about the young people they did give a qualifying offer to I didn't put it on the agenda, but that's something interesting about who they didn't QA and who they did. You know what I mean? Like again, I don't want to get into my peter Solara Chrome whatever like it's either get off the pot for this team where we were sitting why we're talking right now boys is this page? 223 on the Sunday, they need to decide either way. You can no longer have one leg in and one leg out like you need to do something and if that's lose to brush great, if especially if he probably more three four million dollar player at this point if that's what you sign up for but we don't have a lot of money and we don't have a lot of time left because everyone's still signing as we speak at this moment and we have done crap really to see you either shirt this team or go into full rebuild and I don't know what to do with that. You know, like just does a Bruins fan and has someone talks about them to breastfeed if he has to go great job, but it better be for something real none of this, you know little the Richie's and the whoever's of the world like do something do something big do something done if you're going to do with Jake debrusk wage use it for real value. Yeah, I'm if I wish I know it's not good business to say listen Jake. What do you want? What do you want for money? And if he says I want five million dollars then just trade him, you know, cuz that's he's getting overpaid if he gets five million dollars. He's overpaid if he's getting 4 3 3 .5 2.5 3.5 I'm fine with that's fine. But if I don't know I'm a huge Rush fan. I've always have been but if he needs to go to get something else in again, depending the money, I don't know. I'm just I'm torn on this one too, because we do need to to address a certain need and he's the type of player. If you don't want to get rid of the future like Sid Nika. This is the type of player that has NHL games and he's you know, he's been at the level. This is the play we need to move and I hate saying that I really do but he does have inconsistencies is no doubt about his stats on there where they should be dead. But he is an you know coming to the he's at the end of an entry-level deal and still if he is signed for anything. I'd like to have met a two-year show me deal and go from there. Then I I agree because I just haven't heard what other teams really valuable and I heard early on that boy, you know, there's some teams out there who really find them valuable and might be offering but I have found anything. I haven't heard any money really digging in on debrusk or how much he's worth and actually a signing of Craig Smith of 3.1. I'm thinking that guys could twenty twenty-five or five out of Seven Seasons like so what is your breast really? I know he's younger. But what is he really going to guess, you know, maybe you just offer him, you know 246 and say this is what we're offering and as a bridge and then when you're twenty-six years old, you still aren't during the prime. You have a couple of good years left maybe win a cup song and we're good players and then you go into the market two years from now and see what you have there. I mean, maybe that's maybe that's how you go with it. And then like you said Mark if he doesn't want to take it then you actively shop down. And make a decision with them because you really don't want some someone to swoop in make an offering you get nothing for him leaving because you do need something for him. So I again I think it Tara Hall is really seems to be holding up the whole operation around the league as soon as he signs. I think you'll see dominoes falling everywhere. And if he signs in Boston, I think you'll see debrusk move fairly quickly. Maybe they have something in the pot in case all is signed. You know, maybe that's why we haven't heard much cuz they they already have something in the works that could be in all contingent on home. So I you know be interesting to see I just think it's it's been such hype about this offseason letting fans are getting really irritated the less that happens because we were told by Sweeney Todd have to make changes to the roster. We were told by nearly we have to be honest with our roster and then it doesn't happen. Like it doesn't and Smith is a good deal. But other than that nothing's happened and it's just gets frustrating wage. Hopefully this week hopefully next week we're talking about how we jump the gun and everything worked out great and we're much happier now. I just don't see it happening though. Exactly. All right, next on the agenda. Heather is our task b n g n e s p n g is up. There are not that many. But but first we do. Andrew Verena is that right? Did I pronounce Verna? One of our own says does the hall news break during the podcast recording I'm going to go with no Andrews. Sorry wage as much as I would make me happy and really make my weekend because it sucks betonline.ag that's not happening right now. But Greg wrote guarino's. Sorry says in my opinion if the Bruins want to make one more run with this Core Group, then there's a need for a top-four LD Grizzly Chara Lo Zanzibar euro is not enough to bring them a couple. What's available LD. Would you like Leon? What wage defense? Would you like to see come here Martinez Global sphere or whatever? Cross the spear. Yeah, gostisbehere. Sorry, I sorta was writing it or do they go with major trade? What do you guys think? I don't know. This is I wish we had a little a little more time to research this ask vng glasses fear is a little sketchy for me kind of not the type of defenseman that I want on my team. I think he's a good mobile. But when you talk about physicality, I don't think it's all there. So probably one of the reasons why Philadelphia is trying to move on from them or seek value for him. The I mean, I don't know. This is a tough one. I wish I just had a little more time to to do a little more research get those happy and cheese in sooner folks. Yeah, I I I wanted Noah hanifin like a month ago. Like I wanted to make a deal for cuz I was really intrigued by hanifin and McEvoy b c and b u and Anton's twenty-three and I was really, you know trade too Brusque in a couple of prospects or whatever make it make it work. But that didn't come to fruition and then you talk about Martinez as a couple of Cups anyway and Schmidt for them also, but he makes five point nine five million and again the money goes quick and you can't sign hall and then bring in Smith you have to add that money. So unless someone's going to take the money with the Vegas needs to get rid of money. So they don't take it any back. So Martinez are submitted to you guys have been talked about I guess I would say, you know, I wouldn't mind Martinez veteran been there before one Cubs actually won the cup with a Golden Goal when the whole thing with the game-winning goal in overtime. So I you know, I I wage Mine and you know either one of those two guys, but again, you're getting into a a part now where it's it's getting thin and you're putting yourself up against it, but I don't think you can get a top-six Floyd and a left shot D of any substance together with a cap situation, especially with Grizz look out there even if you suck your breasts, so I guess we'll see what happens but I I think they do need a left shot D and unless they really believe someone like this is a Borel and these other gifts can be a lead back in nineteen by all accounts that are really bad year last year. So, I don't know if he can jump from Bad age a year too good NHL year is just asking a lot. So it's going to be interesting to see the thought of the sort of backing themselves in a corner here where their defensive group and I'm not sure what what they can do with it. I agree on that like it's hard to at this point. We're kind of in a situation we have to address Lefty, you know, so okay Martinez, whoever but we're still screwed on the cap. So what does that do? It's still I don't mean to generalize boys and I don't know how you feel. But as a Bruins fan not even thinking about it from business aspect every year off. My team does nothing at the trade deadline. My team does nothing at freaking agency and it's just getting a little old right because everybody else is having some balls and I'm not trying to say John Sweeney does but if you're not going to sign to our crew getting your gun maybe risk losing that was like and you're not going to make a big trade for somebody to show up we need help on both. We still are screwed on the top six even with Craig Smith who is lovely and maybe 10:00 slot in if need so, you know, But I left defense has so weak. So it's so hard to tell it's like you spend the money cuz Pickens are getting slim and just kind of settled but I feel like we always settle I don't want to settle anymore. I want something big to happen, you know. Yeah, I mean the veteran experience I'll take that if it's a cheaper deal, but at this point I'm kind of backed in a corner. We need to address the left side am still aren't that depth-wise on the as much as we want to pull ourselves to think you were adapting? We're not and we need to address that and we need to do something big for that month. We got next. Do we hello? Man, oh, oh, okay. So we're going on with ask me and Jake. That's all we had. Sorry. Thank you, Ray and Andrew for actually responding. Thanks so much. So right now we're moving on to our next topic, which is this week and Bruins history Mark. All right. So this weekend Bruins history as actually today and this is from Mike comedo. And he's a an author that wrote down hockey 365 wrote a book about something that happened in hockey one day out of the year. So he writes on this day in 1924. The Boston Bruins in Montreal Maroons were granted in NHL franchise has guess how much guess how much they paid twenty Grand. Oh, you're close out there. Go ahead Matt. Twenty five fifteen thousand each or franchise in the NHL back in nineteen twenty-four. Another one I wanted to add is actually yesterday but I'm a big rate book fan. So 42 years ago yesterday on Saturday the Bruins traded Ron Graham, son of John Graham former goaltender the Boston Bruins to the LA Kings for LA's first round pick in the 1979 draft, which was eight. Overall the Bruins drafted Hall of Fame they bark. Wow, great trade. Yeah, one of the goods rage back then I can't believe they did that. He's yeah. Yeah and one of the worst traits was they traded away Ken Dryden cuz he was when he was with I think Cornell they had his rights and they traded him for nobody for an absolute nobody and the guy goes Peter Sperry Peterson for nearly dead. In Wesley, right? They got Wesley. Yeah. Yeah. I remember those Wesley. So that was a good one, too. But yeah, that was when it had some bad ones too. That's interesting a that's an interesting little tidbit. That's that's one of the great trades ever. Yeah, so when we end it right there and I'll just I'll just go on the the Spiel. Thank you so much man for four again being an awesome host to two weeks in a row Heather. Thank you very much. I know it was an emotional one, but I'm glad that you know, we got it off my chest and we can move on right? Yeah. Yeah. We're adults were all adults in separate the business from the pleasure true. All right. Well, anyway, thank you very much for listening everybody. 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6. Why The Bruins Shouldn't Trade for Oliver Ekman-Larsson

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32:08 min | 6 months ago

6. Why The Bruins Shouldn't Trade for Oliver Ekman-Larsson

"And welcome back to poke the bear episode 6, I'm Aronofsky alongside host Conor Ryan at Boston Sports Journal Connor. How are we doing? I'm doing swell 11:00. How you doing doing great doing great ever since we started this podcast feels like it's just bad luck for the Celtics. I know they won that game seven when we first started this but ever since it's been not too great. That's because I didn't get the friggin st. Louis-style pizza at do they have to like going up to five down there to take a rabbit again. I'm not paying like ninety bucks for like a friggin Celeste Pizza get sent through the mail. Well, that's the thing and it's not really worth it to maybe you could expense it takes report this podcast love a $7 expense report and that's what the piece is 4 and we can we can just order the pizza with the expense maybe that I mean if it extends the Celtics season going to be dead. Well worth it. So yes, then it would be worth it. Then thought you'd be a hero in Boston size that $7 to be worth it. What's funny is Mark Allred tweeted about our deep dish pizza conversation. He said it's like a cheese casserole and I said No, it's it's great pizza deep-dish pizza is great pizza in my opinion. Not the best but not bad. I have to agree with Mike here. I think he's writing that it's not even a pizza dude. It's like again, it's like a cheesy casserole that you know, it's never a good thing when like there's a lot of really shity food out there that like an hour after you eat it you feel like get you literally don't want food. Yeah, you don't you literally don't even leave like you stall at like who knows without feeling like death like after you eat a deep dish pizza from place like that. That's a good way to cost not worth the price you pay Evans the price you pay obviously comes out for you. And Jack is everyone knows but the the fat tomatoes so it's really dead. Honestly, I'm home this weekend. I may have to stop and who knows just spite you and tweet it and go haha meeting a deep dish pizza, but you would not be the winner there. I would laugh life. I would be the winner taste great. But anyways, anyways, anyways, anyways, there's actually a lot of Bruins or not a lot but a good amount of some real Bruins room that is out there Elliott. Friedman has 31 thoughts surprised everyone with the Bruins kicking the tires or checking in on that's the word you use checking phrase checking in on Oliver ekman-larsson of the fifties. You just signed an eight-year 8.25 million dollar a year contract out in the desert now against the desert anymore cuz it's a Vegas team. So Arizona Captain defenseman, they're left shot defenseman believe. He's in his late twenties 2929 same age as one Torey Krug as one Torey Krug exactly so dead. There's a lot to take away from this the first checking on him. What did you think of it? When he first heard definitely kind of surprised in terms of him being a tag at the Bruins would be looking at home now granted if Tori crew walks. I think you can't go into next year and obviously the the big off-season priority for this team is getting you know, legitimate top six score. But if a core group walks, you need to find another reliable guy to put in next to burning colics. If you're you know, still hoping you're going to run it back next year and still have a really nice loaded team that can make a Deep Run. You can't go into next year with sborro or Vaca dine-in or John more as your you know, your top for guy like playing nineteen, you know twenty minutes a night so they have to have to do something there. So on paper, you know, you look at the Baseline numbers for a guy like X-Men the Last Stand and you know, he fits in terms of you know, he could deal with dog. It's up here and guy next to McEvoy. He could fit in great next to burning Kalo. He's a established legitimate guy who does a little bit of everything. He does power play. He does pique. He's he's a big chunk option then, you know crew getting Keys like 6 to I believe but you look Beyond kind of the the numbers of you know him being an established guy who would help the team like he's not like a liability bulbs you factor in I mean that contract managers is brutal. I'm wrong. You you look at you know, what he would cost for this team. He would be a million dollars more than the highest paid highest played player right now and and David krejci and you kind of look at what he brings, you know, he's a little bit different than crude, but they're offensive numbers are pretty similar you look at what the Bruins are trying to get out of this next season where they're getting more offense 5 and 5 offense from the Blue Line him and Kreuger pretty similar in that regard. It's not like, you know, like molasses this guy who's generating all of his points during even strength timer. Thing like that. So, you know, would you rather let Krug walk and trade for a guy like ekman-larsson who's going to cost you? Probably more than what crew would we'd have to pay Krug if he was coming back here. Like I don't think Kruger if he came back here on a discount is costing 8 and 1/2 8.25 million against the cap. So I think if you're the Bruins you have to weigh that of you know life is that costs worth bringing a guy like ekman-larsson one, you know, there's potentially a whole bunch of other defenseman out there on the trade market that you could probably get that one probably won't cost as much both in terms of you know, the assets you give up but also just in terms of that that contracts 8.25 million for until 2027. I think I mean that's that's a lot of risk for guy who's twenty-three. So he's twenty-five or something and he's in his prime or maybe has his videos ahead twenty nine years old for a guy like that. There's a lot of risk involved exactly. He's in his prime now, you're not going to get a lot of birth. Crime with what if you did take on that contract. I also just think that money should be spent elsewhere like that money 8.25 should not be in like part of why you're not bringing Torey Krug back. Probably not it's cuz you don't want to put all your eggs in that one basket, you know, put it elsewhere and we've said this before like, you know, throw three million at the second left with these lot or the first step would be sought if you'd like, you know, throw five up it up at, you know, top-six left-winger like do that in a trade not will get in free agency Market in a little bag, but the trade market type like, you know, there's a trade the other day Eric Staal for Marcus Johansson, which we'll get to in a little bit cuz Boston does tie into that not just through Joe Hanson but through stall, but to me, it just would not make sense. And it also have to give up a ton. I mean this is like the you know out in Arizona ekman-larsson is their Captain. He's the guy they're trying to build around. I mean great if you have a lot of you know Young And as well who's a little bit younger than him, but they look at him in a high regard and he is I probably would you be a top-15 defense in the league still I wouldn't say so maybe a few years ago and you know, he was generating more offense and you know, there was two years where he was he had over twenty goals. He was very involved in that offense and do a little bit of everything. I think maybe the last two years especially he's his numbers have kind of dipped wage, which is considered social been those years. There was no one on offense for the coyote Kia that team couldn't score to save their own life, right which is also a thing you look at a loss and now and there's risk involved with you don't know what you're going to get from a twenty nine year old guy, but you can make the argument, you know, he gets out of the desert over there cuz I mean, holy helmet people go to Arizona and like their offense just dries up. I mean, you'll get you know table hold in the world on fire when he was down there Phil Kessel didn't do much like Clayton Keller is a very talented young playmaker and he's not really, you know, standing out in terms of, you know, being a consistent kind of off off home. As it's for them. So, you know, you take them out of a talk at system and you know, Arizona's system and maybe he thrives here a little bit more freedom to play but that's still a lot of risks for a guy like him who hath again. I think the only way to track that is feasible for the Bruins is if you get errors, I wanted to eat some of that salary, you know, maybe they take off a little bit and you pay seven million a year off, you know, 6.6 and 1/2 or something, you know each year, but still I feel like Arizona this point just wants to one, you know recoup draft capital and to just cut payroll. I mean you look at the way that you know clown cooperation is run down there in Arizona. They don't have a first-round pick next year or second round pick this year cuz they were caught with the discipline by the NHL month those the testing protocols. They were breaking violation. I think yeah, and then and you just came out yesterday and maybe use it was Katie Strang I think from the athletic had a thing about dead. Arizona like they haven't paid their like the company that runs their their Arena since like June like they they they're balance was due in June and I haven't frigging paid it off yet. So it's one thing if like you're you're rebuilding and yet you have a new GM coming in which is the case for them and we move back when the last and then try to restart but also can get us to need up. They just want to free up cash. So it's going to be are they going to be you know willing to look at a poem they gotta pay the arena. Yeah. Exactly. It's kind of it's tough to field a NHL team. You don't have a friggin Arena, especially in the Phoenix area. So I don't really know even know how you know willing a team like Arizona would be to eat up some of that salary just to get this straight over cuz you know, maybe you take on that full month salary for ekman-larsson and the the value the return you have to give up isn't as great cuz they just want to dump that money. But still I don't think the Bruins want to be stuck with a guy costing 8.25 million against the cap, especially when dead We don't even know when the side of cats going to jump up. Like it's it's 81 and half now it's staying that way but it's not going to jump up again until revenue is back to what it was earlier this year. When I was when the league was rolling. They thought they were going to get a new TV deal Seattle was coming in money was like rolling in you know, there's no guarantee that that revenue is going to be anywhere close to that for another year two years. Like I don't think we're going to get full people in stadiums until maybe next fall next winter like and that's just a complete my God the stuff from the CDC right now offer that the vaccine probably won't be out every American until late 2021. Yeah that is going to push Revenue so far back like this salary cap is not going to be like this for next year and the year after it could be a couple more years than we expected in the beginning cuz they said a couple of years now feels like it could be four or five potentially. Maybe it'll rebound by then. Fully are the new normal. I hate that word. But but but you have to be you have to be cognizant about it. Like it's not exactly and taking on a deal like this for a guy like that. It's just to me knowledge of your time. They are in need of a of defenseman, but you don't need to go all in like this you can go out and get we've said before Brenden Dillon you can trade for you know off a top-four left shot defenseman. It's much cheaper and much more worth the value. But so this is where this is where this part comes in Kevin Allen formerly of USA Today. I tried to read the blog but the link he posted didn't work. So I just saw it was like, oh people are between It Whatever hit retweet the column or had had retweet the link if it was that important, but you mentioned before we came on talked about Jake debrusk trade value. I had this weird fear, and I know you do to the Jake debrusk. Could get traded for crap per say yeah, I mean it if you're looking at the fruits and the assets you can give up to get you know, a legitimate home, you know, a top-four defenseman the process guy that makes a lot of sense now granted. He's obviously kind of a frustrating player and I think any time you tweet about Jake debrusk trade value, you get a good, you know, 60-40 split were 40% more like a screw it like he's doing consistent. It's like I think you only trade the browser if you're getting a legitimate, you know cost controlled Dependable guy back. He's got all the makings of a dude who and a year or two just as consistently 25 plus gold score 60 points. You don't trade a guy like that unless you really are, you know, I'm thinking that he's not going to break through in that regard here or he's asking for too much as an RFA and you just feel like it's not worth the price but there's a lot of risk involved though in terms of getting good value if you are dead. Committed to trading him because you know, Kevin Allen story mentioned that Carolina was interested in Nebraska, which makes it was yeah Caroline has got a lot of you know gifted defenseman. They learned a lot of their offenses. We saw in that series from doing a lot of loaded hi and offense from the blue line, but I don't really know who you're going to get from the get rid of rust from Carolina that's going to suck. I think a lot of people have like, you're not getting you know, Jacob slavin, obviously like he's he's off-limits, press she who you know, when he's on is a fantastic defensive defenseman now and like you're giving getting him maybe like Brady Shea who's a bigger guy but still I mean, that's maybe you can work that out. Like, you know, you've mentioned people have mentioned Jake Gardiner has a guy like, holy shit off one. Yeah. I don't I don't want especially if you give up a guy like the breast form like if you want to give up maybe other assets of him as being like just a playmaking option further down the line up wage. V I don't think Jake I don't know would would fit in well, yeah in terms of I mean, yeah, you've got I mean it'd be great for us cuz like when the amounts Bruins trade if I can't re Gana Thursday, it's going to have free reign over Twitter for the next couple of days. But you look at what the value could get from a guy like the Brusque and you know, you can mention off I think Solutions our The Aquatic mentioned like Noah hanifin who's a guy who's cost-control who's a bigger defenseman, you know, that could make sense. You know, Donnell nurse is a guy who could be available for the right price of a name and he's a big a defenseman who's you know, twenty-four twenty-five if you can Finagle a trade like that and maybe it works, but you also need to make sure you're getting a top 6266 forward back to supplement that scoring cuz again, Nebraska maybe, he's inconsistent. But still I think you're still better when you have him in that line-up, especially if you're getting another top-six guy to complement that offense cuz you need to get that it's again, there's a lot of different fiber Bruins have to put out this offseason, but you need to get that 5 and 5 offense rolling you do and I think if you did trade a guy like to Brusque, you need to know you're getting the better player in return you need to know that your team is getting much better because of this player you're getting back. You can't be a Jake Gardiner. It can't be someone who's debatably better or could be better down the line like off the the reason you would trade debrusk is cuz he's inconsistent and you want someone who's more consistent and more proven and Noah hanifin. I'm I think that's okay. I'd be all right with that move still not amazing, you know, if you can get someone who's more legit go for it. But if it's someone who is on the fritz if it's a even if especially a younger guy who's on that borderline like Jake debrusk is could turn off. To be something maybe not that it's like what's the point of that and it also comes down to the organization deciding in cam Nealy talked about this whether or not they want to go there still cup contenders right like wage, you know, I'm taking honest evaluations, you know being brutally honest as cam. Nealy said like you need to figure that out. You need to see if you believe your cup Contender cuz if you do and you want to go off again, maybe trading got like depressed for a more proven thirty-year-old forward or defenseman. Sure fine. The other one is Carlo Carlos has been kind of tossed around a lot of that. I think you you can't just flaunt him around you can't just dangle Carlo and say oh, let's see if we can get a little bit better. You gotta be sure if you traded like rent a car loan now player you're getting returns much better because Carlo is valuable man. Oh, yeah. I mean, especially when you look at the again the construction of this decoy. All right, you don't know if they don't charge is going to come back and if he dead, Back, he's not the guy. He's not going to be in the role year used to seeing him in like this upcoming year could be a year that brzonkala really stepped forward as the shutdown guy, especially if depending on who he's dating with like he's not going to be as you know sheltered as an offensive guy playing with crude. He's more of a just a guy who's getting what these own drawers and you know more no shift spending. No defending Boston Zone Zone. It could really up his value in terms of being a walked down guy and he's got all the makings of it like his play during the postseason may not have been down, you know impressive. I mean you could bring the case you've wanted more disappointing guys during the postseason for them, especially considering how good he was during the last year's run but still that's the guy that you don't trade unless you're getting a legitimate proven top-six guy back. So, you know, this guy's like Nikolai healers was a Winger and Winnipeg that's a team that wage. Anyone, if you gave them like like John more they probably fucking Palm too because they don't provide they I mean they they need, you know, D help really really bad and way that seems built but like choices a guy Brock boeser who seems like he's always dangled out there because Jim Benning has signed so many god-awful contracts with that Vancouver team, which must drive must drive a connection is crazy because that cord they have they're so frigging good and they might not the window might be like screwed over just because of how much bad money they have tied up. So if you're getting guy like that, especially that's who it's funny. I don't think he's known as a good power play a guy like even for a guy who's got a shot like him, but like a ton of his offense comes off of five-on-five and even strength which is exactly what the Bruins need like. You don't need to add another, you know, power pleeeeease to this team. They already got a lot of good web and especially in terms of guys up front. You know, you have to figure out how got like birth. McEvoy does feeling in for crude, but you don't need another guy down low bearing shots for this team. But if you have a guy who can consistently score five-on-five like that, sir is then that that that's a trade you look at figure out well if it solves one area, maybe it's worth it. But again, you don't trade a guy like Allah without getting a legitimate returned back because again, it makes even more problems for you on the on the song. I'm Blue Line in terms of figure out where these guys fit. So we'll get deeper into best sir and free agents who might be a little bit to power play have you in a second first, I want to show the listeners about that US Bank up. So yeah, listen up Sports Bettors, this is Connor Ryan here to tell you about my favorite sports book and that's bet u s football basketball and baseball are all back. That means it's time to get down your bets. I only in dog sports book and that's bet u s.com. Why do you ask because bet u s is the Pioneer and online betting with more than 25 years in the business. You need a sport spoke with integrity and Longevity and you need to know that you're going to get off. You just Sportsmen good office, everything including live button and then a golf courses e Sports entertainment and all kinds of crazy prop bets and Futures. Nobody in the industry gives you bigger bonuses and bet u s so go to bet u s.com now and fill out your information. 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You look at the Baseline numbers for him. And yeah, I mean, he's got a a lead shot and I you know design bad and he's a guy who I think in the last six years is average I think 28 goals at 36 goals last year and his first season with Florida. So you look at the production he brings and what he said, you know what his role is and you know, you see how he would fit into the Bruins lineup as a toxic guy who just finishes like oh, this is great. Like, you know, that's a that'd be a slam-dunk signing for the Bruins wage. I think you look at 1 how much money he's going to cost because again a lot of teams look at that as a guy who could be a regular Thirty goal. Scorer, you're gonna have to pay him, you know 5 and 1/2 6 million a year long. He's going to turn Thirty-One years old in November and you look at where a lot of his value comes from too. It's he gets a lot of those, you know chances on the PowerPlay which again as we said, I don't think you need to sign like a a guy who's going to give you a power play another, you know, major weapon upfront you already got a bunch of weapons up front, right? You don't have to get these guys more. Yeah. It's like okay you go from the second-ranked power-play to the first ring power play like if I'm 5 offense is so Barren, so I wasn't going to help you. You can't win playoff games just by relying on your power play as we saw and literally the last two seasons right off. Yeah, but I think you look at just what Hoffman brings and you get his metrics, especially defensively like even a guy like him who is scoring twenty five goals a season dead. He brings you so little on the other side of the ice that the numbers actually pointed. He's actually in detriment to a team in terms of just how bad he is defensively and how much teams can exploit that so when you have a guy with a guy who's again, if you don't a flash in the pan guy a guy who's consistent as a twenty-five Thirty goal scorer and is hurting teams based on you know, his other metrics, especially if you put them with the Bruins, he's not going to be probably powerful a one-time or at least he's not going to bump out pastrnak a marsh and you know or Bergeron any of those guys down low, obviously, I don't see where the fit is for the Bruins unless it's, you know, it'd be just a luxury that you don't really need especially when it's not really going to solve an issue that this Bruins team that needs 5 and 5 offense and also Prides itself on being a responsible defensively. I don't see how often is the guy that you shell out 5 and 1/2 6 million dollars for yeah, it doesn't make any sense and they haven't even been linked to him. So he's just there he's attractive. If peace some team will bite the bullet on him and think he's you know, they're they're going to be their first line score and they're going to be surprised when he isn't but it's going to be interesting what they do with this faith in class. It feels so this offseason is going to be a big trade heavy 1 and we saw that on Thursday that Eric Staal trade happened Thursday days don't matter anymore that they're not it all Blends together, but it's all the same stuff. But Eric Staal went to the minister went to the Buffalo Sabres in exchange for old friend Marcus Johansson JoJo everyone called the Mojo but he was actually just Jojo and that's what he made us know that it was JoJo not Mojo, but he goes back to the wild in the deal. A lot of people said Buffalo wins this pretty easily getting Eric Staal, you know a veteran Center one of the things Friedman mentioned in 31 thoughts was that the Bruins have a nice tires and Eric Staal in the past two seasons. I would guess it would be the 1819 season when they ended up requiring coil wouldn't have been surprised to see the the Bruins goal forestall first, but nevertheless it would have been interesting a world in which Aristotle was on the Bruins to that. It was a 2008. That'd be a huge thing. Yeah, I mean, even you know credit to Eric's always had a interesting career right off the franchise staff Carolina kind of Peters out there a little bit but then he signs that that deal with Minnesota a few years back and by that point you're like, all right, you know, he's going to be a middle six guy or a guy on the brake line and he really put together a couple of really great years for them for a really affordable contract. Like there's a lot of reasons why I think people are really favoring the Sabres in this trade. But only if you look at the fact that our install still prove Duct tape player, but also Buffalo saves money on that contract. Like I was really not costing you that much money. So yeah, I mean you look at where Elliott Friedman talked about, you know how tall and be linked to the Bruins it all comes to the back to the fact that stall was surprised. He got traded in the first place to Buffalo because they mentioned that I think he's building like his retirement home in Minnesota. Like he wasn't expecting to get moved especially unfortunately to a team like Buffalo which even with you know, having him to the mix that seems Still Still Still in some trouble. But you look at the Bruins right way even it was maybe for this this season. They're looking at Eric Staal cuz you know, you get coil last year if you took the tires on stalling in this year, he'd be the perfect fit as being a guy who is actually a center but contemplate right-wing you put in next David. Krejci all sudden you're rolling again, right? So tough it for the Bruins and I guess a lot of other contenders who seem like they really value to Galaxy Sol home. Obviously production wise is great but also as a veteran bigger body, especially a guy who's a proven winner right one with the with Carolina before, you know, it's a tough head for the Bruins in terms of getting one of those guys who very well could have put you over the top like he's not a you know, a mock stone or a or one of these other guys who when he would get a trade like that you'll go. All right, they go off all in but stalls are very very good pick up and you know, it's unfortunate the Bruins weren't able to get a go at Kim's you would have I think definitely made a difference and also it looked like it didn't really wouldn't taken a lot to get him off. And and that's that's saying something. I don't think it's kind of funny swing it was probably like, oh we're going to fleece the wild again. Yeah, we'll set we'll send you a Jacobson moral will send you you know, how long will send you exact seneschal send you two first-round picks for Eric Staal why I was like, oh my God. Yes. I mean you'd think that they'd learn after the disastrous wrong with Paul Fenton, but I think Thursday Someone to eat out that or Bill Guerin like saw that saw this trade offer from Buffalo and it was in like the the DMS of like the old Minnesota Wilds Twitter account from pulse and he just sent off anyway, so cuz I mean that that trade still looks pretty bad in terms of return my experience a good player but as Minnesota who's you know Banning in terms of established centers wants him to be there since then you're going to run into some problems and they're moving on from Mikko Koivu I read today. So you also have that you're going to Nick bjugstad where they just Acquired and then I may be forgetting what I mean. It's the wild they're pretty forgettable. And it's sad by the way that they're forgettable. Minnesota is a huge incentive or hockey state in the country. Yeah, and the wild in my lifetime lifetime to the only time they were ever really relevant was when they signed Ryan Suter and Zach Parise and the same offseason and that sort of just went to hell so it's currently at least seems to sign these guys and Frames off. A lot of times they don't under working out like like often supposed to leave Florida who I think eleven seconds after they announced that Bobrovsky was going there. Everyone was like well, that's a shity deal. So everyone said it that deals sucked from the minute his pain at the paper is incredible how bad that like everyone was like no that's going to suck and what's crazy people like maybe it'll suck like two years in know. It's something like this year. It's like the first year also like people forget that Florida legitimately drafted spent the night 2bc goalie in the first round like the best goalie Prospect like what you guys do. I know goalie prospects take a while to develop but they'll shoot man. Oh nothing these these these teams and and like the Bruins have had their their fair share of it. We've seen a I mean if they're going to go try to trade forgot like Brock boeser breakfast or someone that could have drafted through Straight times, you know, we see bar Sol in the conference final look great. Damn it look good in black and gold birth. Nonetheless this offseason is going to be very interesting Connor over at PSJA. You mentioned you were doing a Russian know you didn't mention it. I was before the show. What are you working on wage in front of us is what you are working on right now. They can look forward to yeah. I'm working on breaking down especially a lot of these freedoms that we talked about. So this weekend I'll have some gone, you know, Hoffman a few these are the free agents that I think there should be a good amount of buyer beware from the you know, perspective of the Bruins in terms of getting some of these guys who well, maybe their Baseline numbers might be flashy. I don't think they really fit in with one what the cost would be into what the fit would be for the Bruins and what they're looking to get out of some of these guys. So we breaking down that you know, we're going to start looking at the draft eventually, which is coming up pretty quick too. And then I think you know X and wireless is just the 1st of you know, I think we're going to see many trade rumors and you know guys mentioned as being dangled out there by teens. So I think the trademark it's going to be the number one outlet for a lot of these teams birth. Hoover sell off assets. I don't think the fridge amok it's going to be nearly as robust as usually see it being especially with a flat cap error. So have a whole bunch of those breakdowns kind of passing through a few of these targets and seeing who the Bruins might be best suited to acquire because again, they gotta make some moves but there's a whole bunch of different fives them to put out. Yeah, the Bruins need Alex pietrangelo. He's a bath even when a recently Bo that they need Alex pietrangelo Verizon the one dude who like I'm intrigued by but also now it would make like of those dudes off freak out as like Nikita zadorov on Colorado who's an RFA who's like six six and you'd hits everything which I think he actually would be a good fit here. But you know if they traded for him, like Fifty people would be losing this shit the entire time like big Russian Jew just cracking guys. Oh, but someone already Brewing yes, of course Russian brew pub They don't usually they don't like the Russians that much they don't there's nothing Russian here in forever. I feel like maybe I'm missing one Oakland Chef. Yeah, it's going to take I'm going to need they're going to publish and breakthrough wage. That's right publish it. I remembered development Camp either last year or the year before it was the it was a girl. There was times at the pebble Shannon fan club. I was like, wow, I bring it home and I do appreciate that that is that is a die-hard fan One Restaurant covers the Bruins the roads don't like Russian players. There's practically but anyways, there's been poked bear episode 6. You can look forward to that over. J on the house key. That's kind of Ryan. Have a great rest of your day.

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What Are The Bruins Doing? | Conor Ryan | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

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What Are The Bruins Doing? | Conor Ryan | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

"This is October 13th. And this is the Burn Speed on clns media. And welcome back to the Bruins beat on Ceylon s media. My name is a very upscale. You guys are having a great week tough start to the week the Bruins not really doing a heck of a lot or inside Craig Smith on Saturday morning to make up for the we're not to make up for but I guess in Bruins fans mind it made up for the loss that was losing Torey Krug on Friday night to the st. Louis Blues of all teams. So a tough week for or you Bruins fans and a weird one cuz you know, we all thought they would do a lot more than they are and they aren't and even after so kind of Ryan's on this week of August 4th. Certainly no cross you love Conor Conor and I dissected everything they are doing everything they aren't doing which is a lot more than what they are doing who they're missing out on why they shouldn't be missing out of them could potentially go after one of the names was Nate Schmidt, but Nate Schmidt got traded like right after we finished recording for a third-round pick so that would suck. That could have done a Whole 30 minutes on that but at any rate infuriating times honestly, but we're is I said weird times but more infuriating cuz these are such like, you know to Foley for four point two five million a year. I mean like the Bruins should have been it on that same with Nate Schmidt, even though the contracts not great third round pick. That's not too tough to give up. Eric Gustafson is another one. So I'm a lot of just infuriating stuff and I feel like this would be a good place for you Bruins listeners to Bruins beat listeners. You beat heads. 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Here's my conversation with Conor Ryan Berg and we're here with Conor Ryan Conor. What is up of my Chevy what's going on with you, Just the Bruins not doing a lot and we thought they would do it's a weird. It's a weird time and this feels like normal. We're going to jump right into it cuz there's a lot wrong and usually would do pleasantries, but everybody knows you and I record podcast 24/7 as Folk says so we might as well just jump right into things. I know how you're doing. You know how I'm doing listeners know how wage Tired and watch and checking our phones every day for the last five days. So tired beaten down out of it. No, but so the Bruins right now seem to age a whole lot of nothing and Saturday morning. I felt like, you know, maybe they might do something. They got cracked they signed for X with which we were both big fans of that deal. They moved the press conference back Friday night and we're thinking we'll something in the works here and then Taylor goes to Buffalo Eric Gustafson, Erica Simpson went to wear a year and three million to Philly Philly Chile and to Foley goes to Montreal. Yeah and the standard value 24 hours. Yes, nothing. What are the Bruins doing home 11, I'll be honest. I really don't know exactly what the overall game plan is. I can tell you probably what they going to say is the fact that you know their evaluation. Getting you know who might be available for good value on the market and I mean, yeah, they have to re-sign crystallic and I gotta resign debrusk, you know Charter if they want to do that off and then you know remains to be seen how much money you're going to have left right? Maybe four or five million maybe in available cap room, but it's only the Bruins are you know hamstrung here in terms of what they can do. I mean you can move assets to you know, free up more cap. You can you know, if you you have to still address the vacancy on your nud Cornell with Krug on so long. I mean you can Hawking back to the fact that you know, they miss out on Hall which we don't know even know how that went down. Like if I don't know how Hall picks a team like Buffalo if there's yeah over whatever for the Bruins and if they even had an offer out, I mean they didn't even offer Torey Krug a contract and at that point, you know, we we had that and you pretty surprised by like well if they're not offering to they're not even offering him a contract. They must have been you know, you know sort of going back and mean like all right, we have five plus million and captains freed up now. We can identify other targets to help the team. All right, I like right. What are we doing? Because the Bruins are one of the few contending teams and enter this offseason with a lot of cap or good amount of capital used to play with the ad pieces and you look up the Market's gone and it's gone, you know absolutely down the drain in terms of what these guys are expected to make. I mean, if you told me you get tell it to fully for four years and four to five. I think it'd be very very be pump with that right off. The market is very dipped to a level where you can add one or two pieces for for good value and the Bruins on doing anything like even good stuff's in like that was an easy fix in terms of filling in your life and I'm not a big fan of kissing cuz I mean, he's all offense and like no defense at all. But if you want to pitch it to me because they don't have any better options that you know, you put them with a dog. I like Kalo and maybe a balances out a little bit. I don't really buy that but you can pitch it to me, right that's better than what the game plan is right now, which is you know, you know, Patrice Bergeron's 35 do creatures 34. Yeah, we're a better team as we roll out her whole back and I and Jacobs Borel and people like, well you have to do that eventually. It's like well, yeah you do that eventually when either those guys are attracted and you can take a hit and you're in a bridge you or Bergeron is 31 and create she is thirty and you can you have four or five years down the road of what that core wage now is not the time to do that. So I really don't get what the game plan is. And again, this news can change. I can check my phone as we're done with this podcast and maybe they trade for a guy like Martinez or Schmidt or something like that. But right now I mean all these all have been doing today is checking my phone and seeing guys on good value deals get signed as the Bruins not doing anything. That's funny. I see these good value deals I say is it the Bruins is the birth. You know, we all have Draeger's tween notifications on and appear LeBron and everyone Rose the Bruins. I know it's the Canadians are oh, what's the Sabres or oh, it's the Flyers and and you know, it's funny. It's that time of year where you check your phone all the time, but you also mentioned the Vegas aspect. So we're recording this Monday night. It's 7:53 right now, as I said that so the the golden knights just signed Alex pietrangelo seven years eight point five million per year. I believe twenty-eight I think eight point eight eight point eight million. It's a stinky contract. I mean really not great. That is a just giving up a first-round picks later down the line, but now Vegas has to trade off somebody they have to free up cap space and the the the feeling is it will be someone like Alec Martinez could do four million next year could solve bloodshot defenseman or Nate Schmidt who's dude 5.8 million, I believe per year until twenty twenty-five twenty-six, which name? Is on a contract that excites me much. It should really excite anybody. It's not a good contract. That is a lot of money for someone like Nate Schmidt. But but they're letting their definite top for guys. I'm more so if you had if you have to pick between the two cuz I think that is the obvious move. The Bruins should make for one of those two. I think the easy move is Alec Martinez, you know, she cuz you know, someone said this on Twitter, I forget who it was I I don't mean to, you know, take their opinion, but I thought it was good one. And the sense that you don't know where this team is going to be any year Martinez is a guy in a year get a year out of them in your top for veteran guy proven winner scored those that huge Cup winner, which was like insane. I mean, it doesn't like doesn't mean he's unbelievable. But you know, that was a crazy. I mean talk about a crazy crowd reaction right and a time when you miss the most but you know good solid left shot defenseman four million next year u f a veteran guy could be a fishing. You know, it's a year to me. That's the obvious one and he's probably going to take less to get H mid is a little more expensive. Do you think the Bruins go that route cuz you're not doing anything obvious wage. I mean I think you look at the way the the team set-up and you know, we heard during the the presser with Don Sweeney talking about it how you know, they've embraced these movement in the past and you know, a guy like college who no one really knew what to expect and he turns heads but like again, I look back at you. Look at that team version was what thirty two Thirty-One at that time. Like how long was you know, not saying who knows reckon diners. Well, maybe they become good defense from this year. But like that's a lot of risk you running into on this team that needs to go all-in and also, I mean how much money talked about it like you look at, you know, if you let Krug walk, you know gave you a chance to Tinker and change kind of the identity that Decoy. All right, like you've added a a guy who's bigger. They're not seeing here to get like a goon or something. Right? But like you would at least get a more like steady defensive presence back. There may be a little bit bigger guy. I don't think Novak and I and our Jacob's world are giving you a different look like they're not like a power-play, you know, whiz like Krug is but they're not like, you know, it's not like you wouldn't go like Nikita zadorov or one of those guys was drastically different in terms of what they would bring to the decor. And I I think it's just like a whole lot of risky running into If You're Expecting those guys to all suddenly stepping in and playing again. It's not like it's a dirty pairing roll. It's like you want one of those guys to be playing eighteen nineteen twenty minutes a night every night. I mean it's and then you know, if you'd like to trade guys, this is why you know, you go down all the different scenarios and it's always tough to reject how this offseason is going. I think we're getting a little bit bigger picture. Now that everyone's signing now the big chips have fallen but like, you know, when you let a guy like all slip through your fingers and we don't know how that even went down in terms of the Bruins offered or anything or what the contract was, but you know, you sign a guy like haul you off Make a guy like the Braska biography these other guys Expendable now if you want to trade for a legitimate guy, like are you giving away a debrusk to fill another spot on your on your phone or now, which you know the perfect scenario would be. All right. I mean there's plenty of perfect scenarios. Let's say they got Craig Smith and they signed Gustav's and just as a guy to spot in their wage confident NHL are at least you can at least then keep the Brusque and you have all these other guys that should help your 505 game right now. It's you know, any kind of solution you have. It's like are you trading for a god giving away assets? Most likely guys up front that you're hoping. I'm going to cash in on five-on-five play and then I mean who you signing that's left on the free-agent Market that drives play at 5 on 5, because like wage, you know ever already said on Twitter. I'm going down to my grave that if they sign my coffee and I have to live stream myself watching the Adam Sandler movie Halloween come that way. You're going to be watching that movie like you wouldn't believe it off. Yeah, well, I guess the thing is like you're going to sign one of those guys and everyone going to be like this is good signing, you know, twenty-five girls. It's all right. Stanley Cup is on he's like, he sucks defensively you don't wash your hair out and he gets all of his offense because he plays like 78% of the power plant minutes on on Florida. He's going to get those is he going to get those at the brunch? And if he's on the top powerful unit number you put them on the net front that's not where the brunette generate all their chances are. It's not going net-front. You still even with Kruger you still probably going bumper you still going a guy, you know at the left elbow like pasta still going to be the left circle like it's not like they're going to change their whole D chord structure around to suit and Mike Hoffman. I don't understand the whole Allure with Hoffman. I mean the guys had a lot of had some problems in the past with some teammates. I know that doesn't make everything but that's something and you'll add on top of the fact that he is just this offensively Dynamic guy his shots really good like Bruce. So this on the other day off. No, the fact that his goals are so much higher than his expected goals has a problem like that doesn't age. Well, you know, you can't be scoring a bunch of Snipes and one-timers until you're like, oh, you know late in your into your Midway like Ovechkin, right? Yeah, unless you're Alex Ovechkin and he's nice to have that. Yeah. So is Mike Hoffman Alex Ovechkin my column off but that's sort of the thing is in in the holder with Dad enough to I don't know a heck of a lot about Dad enough. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I'm a dad not an expert can't smell dad without dad in off I guess so big maybe there's that I got to make that joke a lot if he comes to the Bruins, but I don't think it's I don't think he's much of an upgrade in that regard and he gets a lot of his like chances off the rush and stuff and he's helped out a lot by faith is played. I think like you look at his numbers and I mean, it's like a no shit Sherlock kind of stabbed like, you know, when he's playing with barkov and Huberdeau the stats a gray when he's not it off. Off anything else would help said he has like another playmaking guy on the wing and Huberdeau probably one of the better pastures. I mean probably him in March and probably the best passing left Wings the game probably wage and so you put them with you know, it depends on where you kind of slot him in the lineup, but is he fit with the guy like crazy or when he's got another guy like Kasha who also likes to Pat who else likes to shoot too so long that it seems kind of weird in terms of dad and off and he's 31 coming from a kid show fee is back had a great first year this year. We kind of took a step back, you know, it's not and you know, you sign up for you these guys who are out there. It's not like you were looking for like, you know game-breakers or anything like that. Like they designed to fully you know, I'm not certain be a thirty goal scorer, but you'd probably pencil in Fort Worth a goals, you know, 14515 goals or something like that and helps you out a lot, you know, but If you know Craig Smith is your only upgrade again. I think we both love Craig Smith and what he brings to the team, but it you know, you're still running a lot of risk in terms of getting all you cannot wage that whole lineup and especially now where I mean the decoy went from being like a very good very promising unit that again McEvoy can be a lot better. Next year been in college can be a lot better next year. There's a bunch of guys that can improve it's like proof. Yeah, Grizzly can improve but still like it's still a few guys on that don't even say we claim does not fit a colleague a rookie or a guy like that, you know in that role but you look at how if you these last scenes that have been in the Cub for the Cup Final have gone they'll kind of follow the same template like Campbell was a wagon, right? They've got skill all over but I'm a big D core up to get inside against and you got a good a good goalie Who's elevated to Elite status? Cuz they're not getting anything past them. St. Louis huge Decor not now fully. Yeah exactly. Goalie who should his pants this year last year was Elite because you couldn't get anything by them cuz the trans hello, you had Franco bouwmeester all those guys, right Edmondson Gunners them. Look at Dallas. I mean it's going into like not a physical guy, but he's like 61 Lyndell Jamie. Oleksiak all those guys. Nothing inside like you notice you notice a trend here. It's like, oh, I think I notice a trend again. It's not even that like the same argument right where it's you know, they need to get a bunch of big goons or something. You have to get everyone who's six six. You have to get like all Alexia to you know granted. He's he's bigger. He's better than a big, you know doofus out there, but you don't have to like suck it up and get just big guys and not guys around but you also can't have three or four of your guys be, you know, five eleven Playmakers you guess you have to get something there, right? We also do know Jake by the way off. All yeah, he's I mean, he's six six feet five below. I don't I don't think he is someone can correct me on this. I don't believe he is so, you know Swedish talked about visible and it's like so you're going to roll out as Borel Chara crystallic or you know, and also the other thing yeah, the answer having signs of damage are yet, so yeah besides they don't know yet. So, you know charging it should be back in eynon. Grizzly ends of oral. I mean your left side even with Chara it's not looking super promising now, we're both high on grill six potential. But again, it's all potential wage. It's not you're not going into the season with definites on your left side. At least that's what it feels. Like in that to me is an issue and this leads me to my next point the Atlantic division got a whole lot better in the past few days and burns really have it you go team-by-team in the lightning or the lightning. They just want to come they had to put Johnson on waivers that team's good. No matter what maybe let's go out and get TJ Brodie. They I don't think they got that much better off. I don't think they like improved. That much is a good sign. He he fits better. I agree from Barry but still angry. Yeah, you're not you didn't get a sure-fire number one defenseman that you needed. So to me, I don't think they got that much better. But still they improved TJ Brodie I think is a little bit of an upgrade for maybe a Tyson Barrie at least in that system and then you can go down the list. I mean the Habs got a ton better Josh and person and and and Tyler toffoli that a great draft and then you have the Senators who aren't going to be a threat now, but drafted really well have not married since not going to be as easy the you know, it's going to be easy to beat them now potentially they probably will ask you Claire, but they're going to be better in the future. The Red Wings are going to be better in the future the Sabres just got Taylor Hall, you know, I mean granted we don't offer in your face. They're they're going to lose every game 7 to 4, but at least you know, Taylor Hall will get us 42 goals and the market next year when the Caps flat again because you can't go to an arena until 2022 off. All on trying to Corner the market there Taylor always trying to play a Chess World playing checkers, I guess. Yeah, that's a big the Taylor Hall thing made sense. I mean she makes sense. I guess if you want to boost up on your calories, if you're trying to find the rationale, it's their of playing with eichel, you know is Ralph Krueger and he's gonna probably get 40 goals or Thirty point five goals and and eighty points. He's going to get F at but I don't know how he's going to get paid next year cuz the cap is not expanding the revenue by the way. I'm like thirteen million dollars. Yeah. It's that's what it's going to end up being going to be so delicious a team with no goaltending and Rasmus dahlin is going to get sick and probably wants out and grown even be able to pay him at least do a new contract anyway, so it's funny that the cities that Taylor Hall is played in Edison, New Jersey Arizona. Wow, I mean that is like instead of pick them apparently, so who but I mean, I just couldn't believe it, you know, and I think not a lot of money. Could but again, it's I guess to play with Michael and I think also Buffalo did it from a standpoint of we need to satisfy Jack eichel. I think that was the whole rationale behind the move in this does I mean like Taylor Hall she is going to be a fun tandem to watch. It's just I would rather not have to watch the rest of the team. As I said on Twitter. They're the they're the Walmart version of of the Maple Leafs. Yeah, you know some awful doctor offense. They also have Eric Staal defensively in goaltending not so much so but they're still better and that's still not going to be an easy team to beat but I talking to a neighbor start going to be as easy to play as they have been in the past for the Bruins. So you could still active in getting better, you know, you have the Senators and Redwings getting much better for the future saying with the Canadians the the team's beliefs and the lightning at the top are still, you know, probably going to be in the playoffs at least the lightning we can bet on and it seems like the Bruins are kind of Treading water and the division now, they're still good. I still think they're a top-three team in the Atlantic no doubt, but I don't know things aren't a lot know. I mean also we talked about this every single year, but you know, you've got the luxury of having a great top-line a great veteran Corps. But what is the year when you know, it's inevitable when Bergeron's growing limits him to 35 games or David krejci skills start declining, you know, like it's it's going to happen sooner or later right wage going to get a lot of mileage on them and you haven't done pretty much anything other than getting Craig Smith who again is good player, but that's not enough that's going to supplement what happens when one of these guys takes a step back or you'll have to you know, add other Talent kind of supplement what you've lost and especially you look at that D Corps, man. I mean that left side is not looking like too great right now in terms of just projecting going into the year and I mean even look beyond the Atlantic man like Joe sakic has been running train on everyone this entire off. He's incredible. I recently Making everyone movie making is they're hitting out of the park and you got them. You got Vegas. You got all these teams that are just loading up right now and those that seem to think that's gay. You know, it's Tampa seems out west that are kind of sitting there and it's what are the Bruins doing to kind of counter that one you letting all these deals for good value too. It's not like they're letting to fully sign a a five years Thirty million dollar contract and they're sitting out of that. You know, it's like you heard of letting these guys in a bootleg, you know trash market and you've got the cap space to at least be plays for you might have to move some pieces around down the road, but you know These Guys these guys are signing at this point now and it just kind of passing you by that's what's a little concerning is the fact that they have this catalog they have about eleven million in cap a little bit over According to cap-friendly which God bless cap-friendly. They really have three things. They have to do this offseason re-sign grisak re-signed debrusk and potentially re-signed chod. Cuz girls like in Russia are faced to our UFA. So let's say hypothetically targets 1.5 a year will be nice will save you know, one point five for the one year. We have to brush. Let's say 3 a.m. Let's go low and say 3 what you going to be 3.5 or 3. It could be more very fine 5 3.75. So I'm sure you'd like more but we'll say 3.5. So 3.5 baths 1.5 is a is is five. So that's five million right there plus. Let's say three four grzelcyk. You have eight million. So that gives you about 3 million to play with in cap space. And then if you can unload contracts you can unload John more to someone who can take him that gives you maybe 5 to 6, so there's ways to use this cap space. And it feels like they're not going to use it. It feels like they're not going to use that extra cap space now again, we there's always it's like this feels like and I always give these like weird analogies there Colin Cowherd way of life things and in in real life and real life terms. It feels like Christmas this offseason was going to feel like Christmas going in you had the draft were big things could happen you had free agency were big things could happen. If the trade market where big things could happen with regard to the Bruins draft comes and they going to trade Rask know he's saying which good great by the way Great Piece by Steve. Konroyd last week and Harold on Thursday or ask stuff. So draft comes nothing happens to make a trade with the Maple Leafs just drop seventh-round picks free agency comes nothing happens. They re-signed Kevin Miller signed Craig Smith. But then as Torey Krug leaves, they hold the Kevin Miller press conference as the news is happening, which was interesting. So you have that so you you re sign off. Ben Miller lose crew which you expected and you signed Craig Smith. Nothing. Nothing crazy. No fireworks and it's like we keep getting let down. It's like, you know Christmas Christmas Eve. Nothing happens Christmas morning the president's weren't that great parents weren't that great to us, but then we get grandma's later or we got like, you know, the aunts and uncles later who have presents that's like the trade market. Maybe there's something there. Maybe there's a big present to unpack or maybe there's nothing and it feels like there's nothing cuz this the traits are happening now, you know, by the way, I love the the you mentioned the Joe sakic screwing everybody over the black box is turning our County Panera Nikita zadorov off and respect but good job guys. I just look at what's going on this offseason and it's like these own kind of obvious moves. It feels like unless unless they really feel that they want to that. They don't really feel like they can contend for a cup next year. Into that case I say well then what are you doing? And that's and I think that if that's the case of wanting to trade Christian Rask when you get a chance for six even yes, ma'am, so that's the thing should have but I don't think they should have either I mean again, I think they should be going for a cup. You have to get these course you don't come around often. And by the way, the Craig Smith signing is great about it is I mean, maybe they feel like he's a second line right winger. But here's another thing that John Sweeney always mentioned same with Cassidy always mention this with everything and they've of the internal competition. They love there's something about it. They just loved it. It is it is exciting to them and they love the internal competition. And when you add Craig Smith to the mix, you know, we've met before lots of times you have Craig Smith Jake debrusk Andre Kasha Nick Ritchie Anders Bjork now Jackson Nika all battling for left-wing dead. right-wing left-wing right-wing spots on the second and third line I think they like that I think in their minds they think he'll yes let them play so hard that it doesn't even matter if they have chemistry or not. They're going to play so hard that they bow for a spot and it feels like that hasn't worked in past years. What has worked is the consistency is knowing who the second line right winger is which they haven't in a long time or knowing who the third line right-wing or left-wing is dead don't have that and again, that's why you have an eighty-two Game season. I don't know if this this year's probably not going to be any true games. Hopefully, hopefully not. No, I agree with you. I hope it is and I hope it's more that in the ballpark of like 4 or 4:45. I look at that. I think God damn. That's everything we said was going to happen with them standing Pat just like it's happening. Yeah, I mean listen, you know, we're being critical now and I think it's warranted based on you know, the window this team guys. That's what this guy's phone number. and you know what we can look back on this and if we are in June and life is potentially back to normal and the Bruins are in the Stanley Cup Final and with Craig Smith scored 25 goals and ricotta has 25 goals and checks Anika is a call two finalists and back on his average in 1830 a game and he has 15 points off at thirty points and all this works out that would be fantastic and I would love to be proven wrong in terms of you putting all your eggs in the basket of these younger players and hoping that they're going to bail you out or off a guy's like, you know, Smith and Kasia but You know, it's you're hoping for a whole lot of 50/50 bets to follow you away. It's like and they haven't been yeah and just reality. It's like hopping on you need your younger players to one year in the league or sudden B. World burners are guys that are going to break through right like it's not fair to expect last year friends of yours come in and give you a 20 goals right like and if he steps up this year and he's got 15 goals and you know, forty-something points. That's great. You know that but I'm renting Jackson each other via, you know, a 40.50 point guy, you know is he's had a good run in the playoffs and he's a talented guy, but I don't know how you're you know, you're putting all that instead of taking advantage of a market that's depressed right now that has guys available for way below the market value and you're one of the few things that had some wiggle room going into it. So I'm home. Look at this top nine, you know Marshawn Bergeron pastrnak. Dabros. Krejci, Kasha. That's your same top six as last year the third line those kind of exciting. I mean coil with Smith on the right. You're cursed Anika maybe on the left. That's not bad. But then it's it's the aspect of it's a it's a solid lineup on paper cuz again Kasha, you know for a full season could be 25 goals for a full season could be consistent next year, you know Bjork could start scoring a lot of kids a lot of what-ifs. Not a lot of definites. Yeah, and that's where you are different than tap. That is where you are completely separated from Tampa in the sense that they don't have a lot of what-ifs. They don't have a lot of codes. They have a lot of dues and we'll definitely and the Bruins don't have any that at least in on those wings with the second and third lines and that's your issue. So again, you got it creative just Smith play with the first line with with Marshawn a Bergeron. Does Poshmark come down cast off the mix and mingle with his lines? So obviously that could happen the one offseason moved though. I'm happy to Bruins weren't really in on was the trans low just cuz now I see the contract and we all kind of go we knew that was coming in new that contract was coming. It's not going to be amazing what it's going to be good the first two or three years and if Vegas gets a cut part of it, I guess nothing matters, but I would not have wanted the Bruins to go after that contract. A lot of people wanted to be alone and rightfully so I mean the guy is top 5 defenses in the league, probably Katie and so, you know having him on the Bruins they can be great. But you have to evaluate the long-term of it off that is not not great. It's like, you know, and we talked about this before it's like when the Red Sox got call crafted like they sign him you like. Oh, yeah, we don't really need him but I mean available and really he's available for a cheap value get them. But you know for the cost you paid for them and for a guy who's a right T. Anyway, you know what? Yeah again, you'll be rent you just woke up there the forward lines and it's a lot of codes and woods go through the declaw right now how its constituted and roll through. Oh, I don't want to look at that. Yeah a lot of bad. I don't want to turn it off. Budget Woods it's like oh shit, you know this is risk, you know, that's not good with that's like Risk in terms of some of the guys you have out there. And again, I would love to be proven wrong if they roll out, you know, those young players who makes all hit the ice running, but I think when you look at what what you're trying to get out of this upcoming season, if you're trying to go for it again, you know, you get what you pay for you get what you put into it and and I don't know man, it's not not ideal. I mean you look at the defense right now Chris McEvoy. Okay? And Carlo sick off or go back in nine, maybe I mean, it's just that is not good. I mean for Morris money, he should be there, but we know that's going to happen and then the third pairing was on and Chara Clifton Chara. Was on in Clifton. I mean like the chart thing is like whatever but I mean the more you look at that if they needed extra cap space you just wouldn't re-sign Chara but they don't seem to be like needing cap space cuz aren't really using it. So it's like well the hell with it. I mean then I guess during which I'm for we're both for for the money, but I mean that D core is not Amazing. I mean d core is nothing that stands out. That's nothing that I mean girls like smaller McEvoy, you know is their number one now Carlo bigger, but on the left side, I mean, you know more is not a particularly huge is not going to clear guys out. Lausanne is tough but not like I wouldn't say it's tough to get inside on at least from what we've seen. Yeah, so young players. So young player, you can't expect out of him. So I mean, you know, this is a very negative episode and we're not usually negative people. We're we're we're we're I think I'm a beacon of optimism and Hope usually we're all positivity over here and we're all positive positive Pals but you look at this crew and it's like oh and and by the way, they're not going to suck. They're not going to be bad roster. Like they're going to make the playoffs. It's just you just going to be out in the second round up again. Like that's where you're at like old goal of this should be an arms race with Tampa Bay and and doesn't mean you have to Tampa has made a lot of moves doesn't mean you don't make a lot of moves. That means you just have to get your rush to be better than Tampa and they try to do that the deadline it didn't work and I haven't really seen a lot of efforts in this offseason aside from Craig Smith. So we'll see it's a it's going to be a long offseason. This is still a long time but feels like the clock running out even though it's been like free agency has been around for like four days. Yeah still that is how it feels Connor Before. I Let You Go. Is there anything you would like to place? Yeah, I mean we're going to have stuff for the entire week in terms of free agency and moves because I'm sure it's going to be something new every single day another grape or something for us to talk about so we'll have stuff off plenty of stuff on a Boston Sports Journal subscribe there. You can follow me on Twitter at, Ryan on the school in ninety-three through all of that and for see a list media, I'm have married off to you burn speed listeners. Have a great rest every week.

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Evaluating Jake DeBrusk's Value & Possible Trades Bruins Could Make | Conor Ryan | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

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Evaluating Jake DeBrusk's Value & Possible Trades Bruins Could Make | Conor Ryan | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

"This is November 24th. And this is the Bruins Pete on Ceylon s media and welcome back to the bridge on Ceylon Us Media. My name is Evan menosky. Hope you guys are having a great week gearing up for a fun Thanksgiving. Hopefully a safe one as well. Hopefully there's some some good food. Some good drinks really can't get better a better assortment of food than Thanksgiving. I feel like turkey stuffing mashed potatoes gravy cranberry sauce. Some people have you know different other things I think apple pie is the best. I think it's way better than pumpkin pie. I'm really just a good assortment of food. I mean, I think there's no real like bath stuff on Thanksgiving. I know a lot of people think turkey is overrated, but I still think with everything else. I think it's delicious. So I don't I don't see any real weaknesses with a dog. giving meals I think they're they're all good but at any rate in this episode Conor Ryan and I talked about I mean again there's a lot to talk about but we did get into you know what the Brussel end up doing and then we get into an interesting dilemma between back in and then some oral should they trade one of them to try to get something for them so we get into all that in this episode will keep the center of short and sweet out first though NFL football continues on this week which has a very few surprise teams at the top of the standings and you might not be at a game this year but you can still be in on the action at that online no matter how schedules change or players play bet online is going the extra mile to make sure you can get it on every game this season with the fastest odds in the industry there are always more options to wager than anywhere online headed to bed online today and take advantage of the great mid-season bonuses offers from contests BetOnline your online Sportsbook experts without further Ado here is my conversation with Conor Ryan and we're here with Conor Ryan Conor. What is up of the month man? What's going on with you doing? Well out of quarantine been 4 days out. I think that's the biggest offseason storyline a year off things. Are you considering? I don't think we've had anything else really going on. I think yeah, you you're getting your freedom back is as far away most important thing. I think you listeners are are paying attention to you now, so I thought I think know it's funny. I actually got a Facebook message from from someone saying I hope you're doing well. You know, hope you're hanging in there. I'm like, thanks man. I got out today, but really appreciate it. So everyone was following it was all over the years, but I'm out. I'm out. Thank God back home. So lucky me and lucky World cuz you guys can see more of me graduations Jack. Jack or eight this Bruins beat and if you guys haven't noticed there's not much going on in the Bruins world of late and by much I mean like nothing going on at all. As after we got past the reverse Retro Jerseys, it's just been a Barren Wasteland who we should have known that was going to be the last little nugget of info we were going to get for probably a month. Now the Bruins have been tweeting out pictures of old players and mustaches for like what feels like weeks now cuz there's just there's not much going on. It's funny. I always text you and I'm always like if the NHL could have a fourth of the excitement of the of the NBA offseason r v Out Shake anything close to that. I mean, imagine if we were Celtics writers or podcasters or or or there's so much there's so much and the with Bruins with the NHL there's there's none of that none of that. There's no super teams. There's no big, you know, the free-agent stuff goes away and like a week, you know, there's no real drama with it, you know, Torey Krug signs at the blues at like, you know, 9:00 on a Friday night. Like it's just how it goes, but it's just it's annoying cuz I would love for them. Be a little bit more fireworks, but but I was like wait with this there could be some fireworks with the Bruins upcoming there's still some unfinished business and I'm not even getting it's not a joke. Remember you guys remember that Jake debrusk still needs to be re-signed as an RFA. Did you guys forget that? So there hasn't been any news on this front for a while. He's just not sitting there is an RFA but When does this get done? Well, I think you're in a point. Now where maybe not exactly what the process but especially with another kind of gave us and was there no Chara where I don't think you're going to get a lot of clarity until probably you have more concrete details about his upcoming season. That's definitely more relevant for Char who I think it's just those cases where he wants to see what this new seasons going to look like before, you know, guys, forty-three years old. He wants to go through another whole season if it's going to be in a bubble or he's deferring all of his money or something like that like that matters a lot to him for the rest won't matter quite as much as I mean, he's still young players still got a lot of years ahead of him, but I think it very well could be a situation where the gears don't start turning on those, talks until they have an actual set date for training camps think that's where you can kind of set the parameters right above a contract negotiation for an RFA cuz chance those guys can hold out and there's a chance you know them. Trying to see how long they can kind of be in a game of chicken with with their team in terms of getting the most money out of this these RFA negotiations. So it wouldn't surprise me if it drags into you know, the kind of lead up to training camp with the brush because again, it's a tough break for any free-agent RFA during this time, right? You're going to be taking a lot less than you expected. You were going to take off but you know, I'm sure Nebraska has, you know his age and are still hoping to at least get you know, a solid, you know, uh raising, you know, I don't think they're going to get the bump that you saw, you know better or try to connect me or any of those guys where it gets into like, you know, five million or something like that. But I mean my my hunch would be You know three and half three seventy-five maybe for over like a two-year deal. I think it's gonna be another Bridge deal which at this point, you know, I think this page best for all parties involved because Nebraska this point probably right? Well this this year and probably next year a shot. Right? It sucks. But if I you know keep with you know what I'm doing and I think I can be a Thursday score and in two years, you know, I've kept on that level of production in the market kind of rebound send them in line for 5 plus million per year. So I think that's probably the the easiest way kind of path for all parties to kind of get this resolved, but I don't expect it to be situation where it's going to be like, all right, you ready to sign the Steeler? Yeah. Well, it's finally get move on. Like I think it's definitely going to be a lot of I kind of going back and forth because Again, the markets not great, but I'm sure the bruskin is Asian are still hoping to at least get you know, a solid or turn on kind of what he's put forward so far with the Bruins. Yeah. I mean, I think the two-year deal is the right move for as you said both sides cuz it's like, you know, you're not getting a big long-term deal in the next couple of years. You're not with those a league with the state of your a freeze. You absolutely need to just take the bridge deal and the 3 and 1/2 to 4. I think is the perfect range. I think I think we're kind of out of that window where he'd be traded. I don't see that. It's taking shape. I know, you know the beginning of the offseason kind of thought that could happen. I don't really see that happening. Now. I feel like we would have heard some stuff would have leaked. We would have heard a few Rumblings about him potentially being shopped and there really hasn't been any of that there has not been a lot on the Jake debrusk trade front. I know it's going to be off season. We were like, oh, they're definitely going to trade him to Carolina for like Jade Garden or something. Bulshit like that, but there hasn't been any Rumblings of that. My guess is it's sort of like the McEvoy Carlos situation last year where it's in the training camp. They come back Midway through and it's like, you know, whatever. I remember going to page here. We kind of thought like, oh my God McEvoy could be holding out to like November and he was signed in the middle of training camp. So these things end up finding their ways don't finding a way to get done. I don't think the Bruins want to move on from Nebraska. I don't think the rest of us were both from the Bruins so I would not be surprised to see that break way later on whenever training camp decides to start which I mean, we're what is it? We're recording this November 23rd, you're listening November 24th or a few days after and there's no real like traction on anything with them starting know there's a return to play committee about like 15 or 16 players, but they haven't there's a lot of issues coming up with the nhlpa. This doesn't look like it's going to get started for a while know. I mean, they still have that table. Date of January 1st, which I mean again, they they've had that wrong. They announced that I think like October 6th I think is when they said that date down and you really haven't seen much happened since then. So, let's say they say, they said January 1st, that means training camps. That's what December 14 15 around then two weeks. You think probably even more I mean, you also have to get these guys over to the States, you know, there's a lot of people in Europe or up in Canada. Like you just said that you can't just be like, all right, we're ready to go and you guys are going up we're starting tomorrow. Yeah, there's still pandemic going down to the you know oxygen with but I mean you'd be more convinced about starting on the status of January if they were making roads with some of the protocols and it doesn't seem like it's like the safety protocols or stuff like that is a sticking point, you know, it's not like they're doing another bubble or something like that where these players the song. PS4 like fuck know what I'm doing that again, right? There's nothing like that. But now you're seeing the fight over salary deferment is the thing that you know, the the NHL wants off 13% for the players to defer their salary on top of I think the 10% they already agreed to in the CBA. So, you know, we we look back in the summer and they they sign off on that CBA for I think about four years and like oh, this is a great like, this is the one popular this shity years. These two sides actually got along and you know for the greater good will like oh, wow this you know, we're at least going to be avoid, you know lock out or something like that. We you know, the players take that deferment and like the 20% escrow. It's like yeah, we we know we have to sacrifice some money along the way but it's kind of part of what You Know The Claim Jumper in right now. Now you have the owners of like by the way, we need to know the 13% is like, how do you think the players are going to react to something like that? Like I know the times a tough, but after Put in all that work Santa see you later. Then just drop another leg. Oh, by the way, another 13% a year. We're going to we're going to take that like taxes. They cannot you here's one taxes another tax. So I know it seems like all the reports you're hearing is of nhlpa is not enthused about it, which is shocking. So even if this is something that gets resolved, you know, maybe it's it negotiated to like a 6% additional women or something like that still doesn't give hope to the fact that we're at we start in early January because if you're if you're putting you know that deadline down and you said earlier kind of sticking to what you need to be kind of have, you know, signed off on all the paperwork, you know across the t's. The Eyes by this week. I think I don't think you can go you can go to the end of November started December and just yeah try to camps in two weeks. This is like another lock out cuz it's not the safety protocols. That's not what's being held up here. Like I think they have that kind of a little bit under control. They say no birth. They're going to do for that but it's the money aspect of it. It's it's legitimately just another lockout cuz the NBA has a plan. Yeah again, maybe we should transition to cover and basketball but the NBA has a place they're going to come back at a certain day. You know, right before Christmas talk about a Christmas gift with them coming back. All these things are happening Tatum signs an extent just there's some lightning right there. By the way, I don't know if you watch YouTube to watch it on YouTube big flash of lightning. It's November what the hell but yeah, they gotta figure something out to come back. That's a loud clap of Thunder by the way, I'm getting distracted, but it's more or Monday morning. I had to go to a doctor's appointment like 7:30 in the morning in Wellesley, and it was pouring rain talk about a horrible start to a Monday pouring rain shity out just like ass ass urologist. That should be like your forecast. Ask today is going to be asked that's what my job All my my my reports should be by the way. It's funny. There was a during a Patriots game recently. I forget what channel it was but I was watching it was the Ravens game off the Ravens Sunday Night Football game where it was pouring like badly and they cut out at the very end of the first quarter. So like it was coming like it was I think the I think Lamar Jackson was taken the reins on the field and the throwing a pic I missed it. Cuz the local news took over to basically just say it was raining outside. I mean like one like I can tell information you need it and so I thought oh it's annoying. But anyways, I digress so yeah, hopefully the NHL return soon. You also mentioned Chara. I don't see each are going anywhere solely because I think in the you're in the midst of damage your 43 years old, you have a family you're deeply rooted in Boston. People are like who's going to Toronto always going to go, you know to team extra team why I don't see that happening. I really don't log. I don't think it makes sense for him. And he's he says he wants to stay here. I think the only option is Bruins or retirement. Yeah, I also on the top and I think now especially where you're seeing. That's going to be covered climate is right now that they're hoping you know fingers crossed that you know vaccinations could start by December and you know, I expect that it's going to gradually ramped up for January 8th, February all the way. I think there was a few experts you said and hopefully things can be somewhat normal by like early may like I wouldn't be surprised the NHL's also like you know it we're still in this kind of Labor dispute like fuck it. We're kind of like, you know aim to go for February and it's two months of kind of a rough kind of go of it in terms of attendance, but we can gradually start using things up as we get Google back submitted. I mean for League, it's so dependent on gate Revenue. I think that kind of makes a lot of sense out of and try to rush through this negotiation and then stuffing January when none of us even going to be there start so so I could see that definitely being from a rugged take cuz I think the fact that are going to have a lot of empty Barnes isn't really going to head out that much maybe at the gates the front of the guard in front of these rinks and Arenas, you can just vaccinate the people as they walk in so they come in boom Shoot Em Up. They're good to go there. Boom. We just took it out that we do that acts as if like, all right. Well, you can't go into the Bruins campus better for you dummies. So you have to go you have to give access to go in this place. Sorry. I'm going to take a stand against wage tax the nation's. Yeah, my one of my favorite one of my least favorite favorite arguments is the anti vaxxer is the age of extra row. But anyways, anyways, there's another interesting tidbit out there. And this is we're sort of a theory I have or what I think they should do. So Joe Haggerty reported about 5 days ago that A source told him that their shopping or have a good night and God. Whether or not I guess does another thing but I think it's an interesting thing to think about because we've talked about this at length going into this season. It feels like on the left side. You have two younger dog shot defensive from Providence. And Jacob is moral and Rebecca Knight and vying for a spot in the top six or at least up in Boston. And to me I think if you have both of them there with Matt grzelcyk, I think if not, you're not even close to deep enough. That is two chances. You're taking on the back end that could go wrong, you know, it's not likely to be that that you know going into a season we're competing with the division that the Bruins could be competing in as we've talked about in Greg wyshynski tweeted. I think it was the same one that we said it was probably going to be you know, Rangers Penguins, you know, you have all these teams. I don't know if the penguins are in it lemons actually not there in the central which is kind of funny, but I think Caroline is the team to kind of swapped out what we we thought it was going to be. So, yeah, so it's it's it's a dog Activision rest in peace to the devil's in the Sabres cuz those two teams are going to be toast but any rate you put that left side up against those teams. You're not feeling great so long to me. I think it would make sense to trade either one of the barrel of a cannon and the one to trade cuz he has way more value is that guided back? I feel like that can happen probably has a lot more trade value age now then a guy like us borrow because that kind of was you know is I believe he's younger. He was drafted two years later. I feel like trading back and I and I mean, I don't know what you get for. Um, maybe you can find a serviceable left shot defenseman. But I mean, that's kind of I don't know what team would be giving up an experience left. Defenseman for someone who's not experienced. That would make a lot of sense. But maybe you get a forward out of it. I don't know. Maybe you can get something for him. What do you think? Yeah. I mean, I think at this point where I mean, I'd be surprised if it happened one because I think every team is right now scared shiftless of trading anyone. I'm moving money or you know, we just getting away assets or something like that. So I think that's obviously the biggest roadblock, but I also don't know what exactly his trade value is. Like I think you know people are excited to see maybe what that can and can bring but it's not like he's, you know tore up the AHL last year or month or his values at an all-time high which is like, oh, yeah, we'll give you a guy who's 2930 just for a chance to get back to 9 and you know, I think he's still talented player, but it's not like he's kind of have like a steady uphill climb in terms of his development. I mean he Go comes over from Europe and he goes. Yeah, he he comes over from Europe impresses out of the gate with Providence has a really really good World Juniors and then gets injured back here in a bit more of a struggle. I mean like Bruce Cassidy who literally like calls in and out for he's a shity and practice player, you know, doesn't you would expect to be the account the last defenseman Providence defenseman out of training camp last year world kind of leapfrog's from there. And there's the last defenseman left in Camp. So, I mean at this point, I think if you're the Bruins and you worried about you know, making sure you have cap flexibilty. I don't know what how it really helps you to trade a guy like that kind. We don't really know what you have but you could have something good these cheap and I don't know what exactly the you're going to get in return for my don't think you're you know, it's not like he's a a guy that you know, if you log Aided Sydney go which they wouldn't do right? You know, you get something good in return if you traded probably Frederick, maybe another piece that you probably get something promising return but like with a feature, you know, but back and I'm I'm not forgetting like a wouldn't be like a one-for-one swap or something like that. You know, it's not not getting a Bob McKenzie tell you you're telling me that back in his life of the the lightning for Victor Hedman. Yeah. So like I mean if if he's part of a larger deal and it makes sense, but I don't know what you're going to get if he's kind of the one player we want to move and if you look at the the roster and you know, how he's at least a valuable. It's kind of like Amber's Buick right? Like you don't really know where exactly in terms of jokes going to fit into the lineup. You expect hopefully he's a third liner but he doesn't wash these making what like one point six million the next three years like yeah considering the market right now. That's a piece. You don't move especially don't really know what you have. But you're at least intrigued by what you can bring you down. So that's kind of kind of how I view it. Like these are I don't know why they'd be actively shopping him. Unless like he's just been horrible overseas in terms of what they've seen from him during training, you know during the box as well and play but it seems odd to kind of Punt on a player like that right now considering you have so many holes in that left side. Yeah, I agree. I mean cuz I don't again, I don't know if you're getting a not going to get like a veteran left shot defense or an experience one at least in return. I mean it wouldn't you I don't know how you would do that deal you'd have to package back in Ireland with like pics or I thought I mean again, he makes good money. So it's also just like what's the point the value? I feel like the risk is worth it with these guys, but I still you look at that left side and you think I don't know how they are going to really compete to level that they want to compete with that left side, unless the Borderland back in dine-in or John more or they switch a righty over there like a month. Eight flourish. I don't know how you sort of overcome that but they seemed okay with it. That's far. I mean, they don't seem to be actively don't hear their name actively looking for Defender left shot defenseman. So we'll see how that goes that sort of in a storyline of the offseason. I also think that the Bruins are pretty high on lausanne. I think they're probably Nicole Azan as well. I'd come home. I forgot. I think I think cats to be speaking on NHL Network I think late last week and they were kind of chatting about don't know if it's coming back and what you do then and casting talk quite a lot of loads on his Improvement last year. And so that's sort of like, you know, your second pairing is just like lausanne Kalo and that's like kind of just a shutdown option or something like that like again you looking for it's not the most, you know, intriguing option, but you could see the case where if he takes a good step forward. It's still look at solid kind of shut down line there with Carlo kind of Ankara. That pairing. So they've option it's just you're putting a lot of risk for a team that you hope is going all-in that you need two or three younger players to really kind of breakthrough or take really big steps forward. It's funny. I always I don't know why I always forget was on but he will definitely be in the potentially top for he absolutely 616 and you put him with Carlo. He's a big body. I mean we taught you've talked about this at length, you know, these teams that win the Stanley Cup and get their have bigger defenseman and are better at you know, not getting guys to the front of the net you put Carlo in lausanne together, you know, you basically have McEvoy Chris like on the first pairing it's at all offensive, you know, not all offensive, but pretty offensive pairing and then you have those two on the wage second pairing as a shutdown pairing and then you have you have Charter returns. You could jump Char Clifton. You know if has returned it could be supportive and Clifton. So I think that and there's also Kevin Miller. There's John more. It's also Steven kampfer as well. So they have options back there just it doesn't suck jump on paper at you off the paper at you like Torey Krug would yeah or Oliver ekman-larsson would remember that remember that fun phase back in September and it was like the Oliver ekman-larsson wage on the off season was fun. Then it was so fun. That was why I was like maybe there's a chance that continues and it didn't and I'm annoyed by it. But because I remember thinking like, oh, it'll be hot for September and a little off with the draft and then level law but then it'll be all like, you know returning to play and Training Camps. Where where is this training camp in returning to play stuff bad? I mean Jesus God but at any rate today short episode today, but Connor Before I Let You Go, is there anything that you are working on? Yeah, we're going to have even though it's we Thanksgiving so long. 10:00 will be not as not as hectic. We're still going to have a whole bunch of stuff breaking down. I think we're going to be checking in on all the players overseas to see how they're doing. You know Johnny beecher's scored his first goal this past weekend with Michigan against Wisconsin. So I think we're going to do kind of a running Series where we just everything every week. Probably keep tabs on all these players that are overseas. I think that back in line in New Jersey and Cooper Zack, I think both got loan two teams today on Monday. So I think probably as we wait more and more and you know, we know the page is not going to start until at least February I think so, I think you're going to see a lot more of these players heading either overseas or in some Bleak to kind of stay fresh. So we'll be keeping tabs on that should be ashamed so subscribe and Boston Sports channel, and you can follow me on Twitter at, Ryan. I'm just going 93 go do all that and for CLS V. Marinoff you Burns few listeners. Have a great rest of your week off.

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210: Bruins & Chara Part Ways & B's Officially Start Training Camp With Roster Release

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210: Bruins & Chara Part Ways & B's Officially Start Training Camp With Roster Release

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