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EP-167 | War is Hell: Facing an Ethical Dilemma in Combat

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EP-167 | War is Hell: Facing an Ethical Dilemma in Combat

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The show today, we've got myself rob gallon, and I've got Scott Johnson, Matt scholar, Paul Martinez and Tom Saturday. So the gang's all here, and what we're going to be talking about today is actually a post that Matt scholar put on and many people follow him special operator on Instagram and die share to both in our Instagram posts on Facebook. And it's a post with Matt UPN in a helicopter and an eye. And I was placed by the individual patient that you're working on at that time frame and he had killed toodle kids and critically injured three others. And they were your patients as well. You treated the survivors massive multiple cysts multi system trauma, amputations severe bleeding and a grotesque injuries. That cannot be comprehended nor associated with innocent children. He survived the shooting and several hundred pounds of explosives in ID components were found in the back of his vehicle because he was still alive. He was detained and you were called to extract them in stabilize patera, Gatien and. You know, you started working on him an outlet you tell little bit more of the story. But what really brought up this episode was around the comments made by individuals who read your pose and just your description of how you worked on this patient, and how he he had this hatred in his eyes and everything while you were doing, but yet you showed the compassion and and did your job as you were supposed to do it. But people felt like you shouldn't have done that. So maybe you can kind of share a little bit about that story that day. And and you know, how you reacted to some of the comments that you saw there on that post. Yeah. For sure so the the way that all came about this is during the, you know, the big hearts and minds campaign where it anytime there was collateral injuries or damage the coalition forces were basically tasked with with recovery with providing medical care with providing safety and security and the day before that picture was taken. There was a group of. Little kids who were playing in their village, and the idea had detonated and instantly it ripped to the kids completely in half. And basically wrote in the post it turned their bodies into projectiles, which then coupled with you know, the ball bearings and all the shrapnel that was inside of the ID critically injured these three other kids. So at the time that particular combat outposts was a British British controlled, and they called in a a med evac cows evac, and we came in and recovered recovered the kids. So here it is broad daylight. I have you know, two kids who are who were killed instantly and then three critically injured multi systems trauma like I wrote in the post so and I have about thirty minutes with with the three kids my teammate. And I spend thirty minutes on this flight, basically trying to salvage any signs of life that we can. And you have. Put aside like your own. I had children who were that age at the time. So it's like I had to put them aside and actually just completely focused on this task which was saving those three kids lives and anybody experienced trauma, doctors anybody will always explain that working on kids is always the most difficult, regardless if you're seasoned combat veteran pediatrician it doesn't matter like kids are the complete innocent in the world, and they should never be caught in crossfire never be collateral damage. So the very next day roughly around the same time there was a bit of uproar in the village with you know, the these two kids being killed and these other three suffering these severe in grotesques grotesque traumatic injuries, and they had identified who actually it was in the village that basically, you know, came forward and told the the coalition forces who it was and in an attempt to flee disguised jumped in his his car and took off outta town. He was just outside of Marsh Afghans seven. I'm not sure where he was headed. But he basically blew through a checkpoint now because he blew the checkpoint. You know, the rules of engagement the time where they were cleared hot to to engage, so they engage vehicle he was hit multiple times. But he survived and the the British rules of engagement at the time. You know, all different units have different rules of engagement, and he ended up surviving. And we were then called per the hearts and minds campaign to come in extract this guy, so we pulled him out with along with several hundred pounds of idea an explosive components in his back in the back of his trunk. You know pressure played ID's and fertilizer, and you know, blasting charges and all the sorts, and this guy was basically clinging the life, and I had the same thirty minute flight with him that I did with the, you know, the the three girls from the day before. And because I was a para rescue men because I was a medic because that was my my mission that I was tasked with the at that. Time I had to treat him regardless. If he's a known enemy, regardless if he's, you know, expectant my mission at that moment was to treat this guy. So I did I treated him. Like, I would anybody else. You know, he got immediate life threats taking care of he got, you know, patient comfort and care, and I treated him to the best of my -bility because in that moment, just like I had to put aside my own personal, desires and comforts to treat the three casualties. He caused the day before he was now my patient, and he deserved what I had to offer which was the opportunity to preserve life and treat his injuries, and we can get deeper into the into the specifics of how it unfolded. But when a when I did share that post, and you know, the the amount of of of support for hey, you did the right thing. That was incredible was was pretty profound. But like you, and I spoke about there was a lot of a lot. Of criticism for it. Absolutely. Like, you know, everybody sits back in the comfort of their own homes and quarterback. Armchair. Armchair, peach. Armchair PJ from the other side of the world. And all I would have, you know, put a put my bulletin was put a gun in his mouth. Yeah. Exactly, exactly. And that's that's the beauty of the anonymity of the internet. And you have that luxury. But the reality is is that in chillier in that position until you're in you know, that expectation is on your shoulders. I don't think it's fair to to really say what you would or you wouldn't have dug especially as it relates to most. I guarantee everybody here who are not everybody here. But the majority of the people in the comments could never even fathom being in those experiences. Let alone the, you know, the the scenario leading up to it. So to to sit there and to to offer your what you would have done was entertaining to say, the least I say if you wanna ask how it impacted me. It was it was basically it was good for comic value. But it also in my opinion, reinforced it I did what I did the right thing. And I believe and I stand by what I did. Because I was doing what I was tasked to do was following my mission. And I maintained my humanity in that. So well, I mean in a combat situation like that. I'm that's what we're supposed to do or supposed to look for the right? We're not supposed to be out there because of the award type of environment that you're it's a free for all to green light to do. Whatever you want those are called war crimes. I mean that. That's absolutely. It's it's martyr. You know, if you go out there, and you go kill somebody for the sake of just going and killing somebody, and that's what I found that was most ridiculous. I know Paul you. And I talked about this, especially as it relates to you being a sniper in having to identify the target near the exercise that you go through in milliseconds before you squeeze the trigger dab -solutely. We get the same armchair quarterbacks. You know, you'll you'll say, hey, I was on the sniper mission. And I shot this guy three times. I so I didn't shoot him once in the head or why didn't you do this? And that or. You know, it's not that simple. These are all people. You know? This is reality. It's not like the war movies where you know, you do your little hero thing. And then you turn off the TV after two hours, and it's done, you know, like we're going to we can encounter some of the people that we encountered over there in our everyday lives. You know, that country still going to be there when we're old men and people, you know, they were bringing up Nazis on war crimes for years and years. You know, what I mean like the his history's not written yet? And I think that you know, that's the most important to conduct yourself with integrity and compassion and always look for. What would where's the humanity in the situation? Yeah. In Tom, you brought up a recent article that was shared on Facebook about an incident that happened over the I guess it was about the last week or last few days, actually, and even prior to this. I mean, we already know that there's a navy seal as well as a green beret that are being brought up on charges that at least they're going to be doing investigation on them as to what their actions were and what they have done. But there was a recent incident where a bunch of. Hotheads may have taken a life in. They're investigating that as well. Yeah. I think you got two kinds of people out there will two main kinds those who talk shit and are full of it. You know, I would have thrown them out of the helicopter. You know? This guy's probably never killed anybody. You know, they're they're the ones that don't think it's real. And then there's those that actually commit crimes and lose their mind their godlike mentality. Even take it out on their, you know, the friendly's their own side, which is complete and utter ridiculousness. If you ask me they for for marines and some seals the beat up a green beret for Green Bay to kill a seal. Whatever what is most recent ones, you know. And then the guy smuggling drugs main, there's PTA us out there and people acting out with it. But morality doesn't stop in my opinion. It never ends. And that's why we're supposedly the good guys, aren't we? But you can't you can't tell these foreigners. If you will were foreigners when we're over there. So we're formed their country that you have to live by our rules. Who are we? I mean, they were raised from babies on up to hate us. So honestly, we're the same way of them. You know, we were raised to not like them for whatever reason and unless you can stop that and make the right decision based on your more. Nls and your values and beliefs then then we've lost all together. Like, you said, it's murder. It could be so easy when you're caught up in the moment of your journalists going and everything else to make the wrong decision. I, you know, it's one of those things that you actually have to think about be consciously aware of it all time. So that you don't do the wrong thing. And I think that's what's supposed to separate our military service from other countries, you know, is that we do take that time to assess the situation to understand to have compassion. You know, those types of things at least that's what I thought was part of the training. So again, I was shocked at even some of the individuals that were posting on the the Instagram were actually active military, service members, those are the full of shit group. I mean, even look at it society nowadays, we're already depicted us the bad guys. I didn't notice this to my wife told me to start paying attention to the war movies. I was watching and take back in the past military depicted as overbearing mean guys who take over in a situation that earthquake. Okay. The military guys stepped up and he's he's raping women. He's killing people. He's you know, he's got the godlike mentality. Unlike we're the bad guys to the civilians, so even in the movies nowadays with with the bin Laden, Ryan the Seal's going to kill bin Laden, you know, other than crashing the helicopter than whispering in the house. Like, nobody's there literally murdered bin Laden on TV. Right. They murdered him on TV that they depicted that as that's cool you down. So you get past the funny stuff of them whispering after crashing outside and blowing a hole through the wall. Like, they're sneaking up on something. It's all Hollywood. But they're depicting us as those with with no morality, so we have to really step it up, and you know, work on a higher plane. Field really to get our name back. I think they're not only doing in that case. They're also doing in the case of post traumatic stress. I mean, we've seen several movies that came out that depict the military as being what you just described Tom or the opposite of those individuals that can immediately snap, and you don't know what's going to happen. And so I mean, it's not a positive role that they're playing out there. It's you know, it's one of those things I think that happens on every combat situation. I can remember the the movies that came out post Vietnam that kind of displayed, you know, the Vietnam war, and and how those those brave warriors were at that time frame. And and it wasn't always the most pleasant type of movies and those types of situations as well, I think there's an interesting distinction to be made, you know, you bring up Vietnam, and you know, like most guys my Vietnam movies. You know, we all grew up on that stuff. But that means we saw stuff like, you know, the Miley massacre, and the the rapes and the stuff like that. We knew that, you know, you would go to jail or you go to the the. Tom, or you, you know, weren't in college than have, you know, rich family. So you weren't important you've got to be a nominee. We changed our whole recruiting practice. And I think that you know, it's important to celebrate your victories in that sense. We're not sending criminals overseas anymore. And it's for reason, you know, it so that we don't have village massacres, and we don't have, rapists. And you know, I think it's important to emphasize highlight, the integrity, and the morality that is so imperative to our mission now, they know, and I think that's evidenced in the lack of war crimes and atrocities and things like that that have happened, you know, and people on the sidelines. They don't realize that this isn't a war like we had with Germany where you you go in and you kill them all you know, or you go in and you shoot all the guys with the blue jackets on because wearing the red jackets or whatever, you know, these people are they're not card carrying members. It's not like LA, fitness, you go and you sign up, and you've got, you know, your card carrying Taliban. You might be, you know, a guy that's got an AK47. today, and is helping out and you might be a normal guy three hundred sixty four days the rest of the year. You know? I mean, it's it's a messy mucked up situation. So you know, you kill the guy with forty seven on the days being a bad guy. You're a hero. You kill him the next day because you recognized him from yesterday your murderer, you know, and it seems fucked up, but we have to walk that line or we're like them than we are the guys that they depict in the movies. Yeah. Great wave describing it you completely right party. You know, it it. It's what sets us apart from them. 'and the global war and terrorists in two thousand one is is blue set of lightens like you just said there's us as the professional military on. Then there's they miss a terrorist force und-, you know, enough that's been going on for sixty news. No. But for us in the UK, we we had thirty years before that as well with Northern Ireland where the lines were blue with who is the enemy and what they can do because they don't it to a set of rules. You know, and they put him Bohm's in city centers a month. Just an in Brighton in hotels, Oma were they blowing up. I think it was twenty six people killed on you know, kids just out shopping on a Saturday morning. And the professionalism is what sets us apart and like much story there of fulfilling his role at the time was a medic. He wasn't at a kick down doors at that time. It was there to fulfil a role as a medic. On professionally to the best of your Bill. Your ability carrying out that rule is what sets us apart from the enemy. They they terrorist force they unprofessional. They don't give a fuck who gets you in the way of it. But we arm not will do we do what we need to do when we need to do it. But we let DEA to a set of rules. I'm not. Differentiates us in civilization as a whole of way, we stand a better civilized group of human beings compared to what they are on. There's no two other ways about you know, they don't give a fuck. Whether it's five kids being shredded by bomb or whether they talking somebody's head off with a rusty machete. They don't give a fuck, you know, but we hold ourselves to a higher standard that the not on a DA to a set of rules. You mentioned Northern Ireland because aren't you guys going through some of the same things with the Tross cities or lease? There are being presented as atrocities that occurred within Northern Ireland to some of your British forces. Yeah. It's been going on. A few years now for Northern Ireland also for rock, and we touched on with with polls fish was well imports came on as a guest, and you know, pull one hundred percent right in what he's saying. In not episode where you've got to prove sess through your mind that decision making on my right to take the shot on not because potentially. There's a follow up to that. Because we d to a set of rules that can be come back on that. Whether you was right or wrong. You can't take that bullet backwards his left the viral your weapon. So you've got to be cleared in your mind, the processes on the there's been several cases of it. There was a guy held in parliamentary debate this week. Who was a lawyer owned? Law firm on he was actively chase in military, basically made himself alive million pounds up to the process on. He was he was basically cold saying it didn't matter on the outcome. He was getting paid for the legal process of it on. He didn't care whether he was putting people through hell because they were genuinely innocent Egypt wanted to make money off the back of like an ambulance chaser. We'd label them in UK tank chases. Now, you know because they just follow in right? Well, I'll get a known enemy combatant of you ever on anything Baden to you by a member of bridge mill. Oh, yeah. These guys they, you know, they come in and kick my door in and they beat me up, and they used the kids and the wife, and whatever it may be just made up all the shit stories on the lawyers were taken they award as a no name enemy combatant over the wood of a professional military force. You know, the documents. When you when you take somebody and captured, and there's a documentation process we not just set thrown at set the plastic zone. Unbundling them in the back of the landrover and being Denver in the you know, sitting into a bag over their head in the bucket of field. There's a process to be a DEA to and you get booked in. And you get check through and paperwork is is started on interviews and statements and all those things as a normal. Police force would do in his civilized country at the time. We take those rules with us on they would ignore in those documentation, those facts are just going up over this guy said this. So we're going to take it to court now, we're going to try you full basically for war crimes on. It's just complete insanity in his it's been going on for years and years and years and the government in the UK needs to get his act together. Because publicly they keep saying we don't agree with it yet. They aren't doing anything to stop it. You know, if you don't agree with something put your fucking foot down on say. Dr isn't right. What you do in? You will not do that anymore. On the just not do on. It's you know, some of these guys know of an island this is years ago with these things happen. They've the sixty seventy year old guy is now in you know, the medical conditions and all the problems that comes with age potentially in things and just doing none of them any good. And I think there's been a couple of cases of guys you've who've died from heart attacks and things and people suggested link than to the extra stress. No that you go in through in the worry and all those things and wrong completely wrong. But that comes back then to the need for us to uphold the shelves to the highest standard and have sex of rulers, whenever we go to these places. Iraq, Afghanistan, you know, Africa, whatever that may be otherwise, we're just the same just a motion before us. And you know, we know better than you wouldn't think at the moment at that moment that there would be a witch hunt. You know, you know, later on in your life. We are rule it down even so far. If you're doing a raid or ambush you can kill. On the way across once you cross a certain line. You can't come back and do it again. You can't do that. You get one chance at it. You know, as part of the raider part of the ambush. That's it. Once you come back if they're alive. That's it. You treat them you have to treat everybody. And and it goes back to as far as anyone can remember it war, if you treat your prisoners of work, right? Then they're more apt to give up versus fight to the death because they think you're going to torture them or just SAS innate them anyway, while they show they show the movies. Oh, Tom where they come back through. And they find anybody living. They go ahead and kill them as well to make sure they're good dead. And there you have it, right? Yeah. Hey, we just walk around shoot anybody we want because as we are. And then we wonder why we get out and people stare at us funny. You know, from its leaders like us, they have to break that that mold if we if we give into it in in laugh on even on Facebook and agree, you know. That's funny. We should throw them out the helicopter, even though that's a funny joke, and you want to you know, it goes through your head like I'd love to check this out there L helicopter or shoot him in the face that all briefs. Well, and it sounds like you're tough. But you're you're not really you're gonna live without the rest of your life. And by the way, you're wrong. You're way wrong. You know, it all sounds cool to the kids. But if we don't stand up and say, it's wrong. It's like cheating on your wife, and this and that I mean, Shannon around a group of guys picking up girls in the bar, and everything you look the other way, or it's cool, it's celebrated, you know. I mean until you we stand up start saying that's wrong than is. Okay. To be immoral because everyone agrees with it. And then on the other side of this mad you receive some outpouring that from direct messages from individuals that actually shared some of their own ethical dilemma situations and in approach this from a different perspective. And I'm curious if you could share a few of those. Yeah, it was really great actually to to share that. And then to sort of open the gate for other people who had similar experiences to feel comfortable to you know, to wanna come back and share a few that stood out to as pretty profound were. There was one guy who who shared a message that he was at a combat outpost, and they started receiving indirect and mortar fire, and they took a direct hit on on one of the who teaches and you know, suffered some pretty severe injuries. And this guy was was the medic at the combat outposts, and he was running around, you know, treating everybody immediate life threats, basically run a mass casualty on his own while he was waiting for, you know, for X fill in for Cavic and the security at the combat outposts found the guy who was outside, you know, launching these mortars and they engaged them eat, unfortunately, did not succumb to his injuries. So they brought him in and he was part of the mass casualty so here's this medic with you know, I think he said something like eight cat ALPHA's or multi systems trauma patients. And then the ninth patient is the guy who's standing outside launched the mortar mortars over now. I think there's there's something, you know, there's when you're a medic see I mean, I was a para rescue. I was a combatant. First and then a medic secondary. You know, my my job was personnel recovery. I was basically a paramedic. As a as a skill. It wasn't necessarily my primary trade there's a special place in in my heart for for just medics either. You're a navy Cormon or you're a an army just medic not an eighteen delta where your main mission? You're only mission is to preserve life. And I think there is a just a slightly different filter for medics on the way that they view human life. Anytime you are either a direct combatant or a medic. You appreciate the how fragile human life actually is in how a delicate of a balance it is that we are actually existing in the first place now either as a combat and how quickly you can take the life, or as a medic how little intervention it takes to actually preserve that person's life. So when you're a medic, and you have the opportunity to to do something as simple as a cluding a blood vessel. That's hemorrhaging or open and. Airway or administer a drug that's going to keep that person alive until they can reach definitive care there, you you don't take that lightly. You you find yourself like you see how fragile human life can be an at that point. The playing field is level. It doesn't matter. If you're a task force assaulter or you're a bad guy. You are still a living human being and in those moments of extreme vulnerability that it just touches something deep within our own humanity. That is primitive. You know? We we have the capacity to kill obviously, we kill very very frequently. But all of us at some point were, you know, we were influenced by the world around us. We were young we were vulnerable. We saw beauty around us. We saw like how exciting wonderful the world could be. And when you're in those positions where you're holding life and death in your hands. You tend from my experience those always tend to gravitate towards the life portion. And it's like, it's not. It's not in this moment that I decided this person lives or dies. They have survived. Whatever it is. That has brought them to this point. So now, I'll treat them the best that I can. So a lot of the the experiences that people were describing we're really similar, you know, and sort of like Paul mentioned earlier where the day before he was just a farmer in the field, and because some guy came in and at ninety and took over his house. Now, he's pissed off at the Americans. He's pissed off at the Brits. He's pissed off at ISAF. So how does he retaliate he retaliates? And the only way they know how to we picks up his AK that he's had for the last thirty years, and he files a couple of warning shots outside because he's pissed off. Then he gets engaged. And now this guy's clinging to life. And it's like Paul said is a good guy today, or is he bad guy, or is he just a human? Now, we have the opportunity to treat save his life. And then let somebody else deal with them and those moments that's not for me to decide that's not for anybody to decide, but I have a mission. My mission is to preserve life eighty injured. And that's what I'm going to do. And that's what a lot of these these medics in these Corman who are sharing these stories with me. It's like, they they they struggle with it. After the fact, and they they would have struggled more if they didn't do something. And I think that's where knowing that knowing that about yourself having that awareness, having the ability to go back and reflect you like, I would have had more regret had I not treated this person versus if I you know, if I had done something to to make a decision, otherwise, we're cops really, aren't we? I mean, people hate it. We're we're we're police officers. We don't make those legal decisions we stopped them doing what they're doing wrong. And then someone else judges them it's not up to us to do that. Because they want you to remove the emotion from it. Cops would probably kill more people on the street because they're losers. They beat their kids have to death. And they're on drugs. They shirt everybody wants to him. God. Yeah. You think that's someone else's job it remove the the emotion from it someone else outside of that event. Can do the judgment because I know what decisions most people would make. Yeah. Throw him out of the helicopter. Yeah. And then once you do that once you. That line. There's there's no crossing back over. Yeah. I mean, judge Jerry, you're you're you know, that's what I think a lot of people are trying to become here will it's sort of a it's diminishing returns as well. You know, you look at like, Vietnam, I was go back to be at Phnom because I think it's important, but. You know, I was watching this documentary. The Ken burns one. And I can't remember it was, but they're saying, you know, we kill you kill the right guy. You kill the bad guy. And that's great. There's one one bad guy dead. You killed the wrong guy. You created ten more enemies. And I think we all saw that nap ghanistan in Iraq as well. You know, you go to village they're sort on the fence, they don't like the interference of the Taliban. You know, if you get through heavy handed you start, you know, ruffling too, many feathers, all of a sudden, they'll just completely hostile, you know, God forbid, you know, you you killed Ron guy in a raid or something like that. Because it does happen. And that you know, they've turned against you announce if a couple of guys in the village, it's the whole village. So no you throw one guy out of a helicopter. He's gonna land somebody's field. They're gonna find him. And it's just a an Afghan that fell out of another helicopter and the Americans are bad guys. And that's what the people who find that body. You're gonna think because they don't know the back story, you know, they don't they don't know anything, but what's in front of them. So. You know, it's not effective to our winning strategy either to just kill them all or turn into glass, or whatever, you know. I mean, if we just wanted to lake a glass, then we would have like a glass, but we doesn't can accomplish anything bomb them into the stone age right where they already they're already lived there. They don't care. I mean, if you don't cross that line, and you know, you're you're making moral decisions. Then when you make a mistake because there are mistakes, or there are I guess accidents. So. The you can live with that. Are we were milling around these houses looking for a signal it bouncing around in the early days when we weren't very good at it? And you know, over the status street this street, so we're making doors were hitting houses in housing, we go to one and I'm entering to the garage side. There's a team entering through the front. There's a guy in front of me. And soon as we enter I look there's assess stares right in front of me. And there's there's a kid on the stairs aka aiming at the front door. I know what's going on. I know what he's aiming it. You know, the guy in front of me drops in. I'm sure he thought about it. You know, ten twelve year old kid who knows hurt us coming up defending his own home. Right. Because there was nothing in that house, and you know, shoot him. He runs upstairs slams the door by the time. We got up there. He was dead. It was just it was that, you know, those type rounds. That guy made the exact right decision. Right. He doesn't have time to think back. We'll we make noisy might be defending that kid's gonna shoot. So. Now, it's them or us. He could live with that. Now. Does it destroy him everyday? Yeah. Certainly does. Yeah. Twenty some ten fifteen years later. Yeah. But he can live with it better knowing that he did everything correctly. And he didn't live that way, you know, on a daily basis is you will make mistakes or there will be accidents in wars. Well, there was a film crew that actually came to myself, and I think Paul made it came to you as well couple years back on a film private film called do. No harm in that film. It was basically a ethical dilemma situation where it was a marine transportation unit that came under fire, and they came into a house, and the gunny sergeant was actually hurt and injured and everything bleeding out. And there was another marine that was trying to aid that individual and provide comfort and stuff while they were bleeding out laying on the floor was a couple civilians that had been caught unfortunately through the. Fires that had taken place when the transportation unit was hit and a young boy comes into the house and sees his mother laying there dead on the floor and assumes that these two marines are the reasons why his parents have been killed and so he has a weapon, and he picks it up and at that moment that marine has to make a decision, and that's almost where the movie really ends. And it's more about just what we're talking about here. What would you do in this type of situation and understanding that like you say, Tom you're going to have to live with this decision? And at that moment, you do have to play kind of judge jury. You gotta make the right moral ethical decision. It's these types of things that need to be talked about a lot more as leaders to their soldiers to their, you know, sailors, airmen, and in Breen's, so that we can help people understand that you can't just throw that individual out of the aircraft. You know, there was a period of time roughly around the same as that event where the the caz avec in the the x fill in the medical platforms were being targeted and one of the ways, especially with the hearts and minds campaign that the, you know, the insurgents or the bad guys figured that they could gain access to the medical helicopters was to become patients themselves, but they didn't want to become a patient. So what they would do is. They would go into a house. They would typically kill the family, and they would find a young kid young boy or girl, and they would critically injured that child to the point where they could blame they could blame ISAF. And then this person would be either an uncle and neighbor or some concerned caretaker, and they would try to escort this child who they injured, and they would blame it on the coalition. So there were a few few circumstances that got the kind of filter through. I have my own experience with one. We're basically, you know, you know, that this man who is claiming to be this. Child's caretaker is the one who caused. That injury caused that elm or who caused this. You know, like, for example, a lot of stab wounds or penetrating trauma. Maybe they shoot him in the leg. So here's this child who is injured and suffering. And here's this man who causes injury and suffering, and you know, that he's the calls for, but because of our our rules of engagement, you can't you can't engage. You can't you can't separate the two you have to perform your task in your duty. And only when this this Intel started get filtered down, did we stop allowing escorts and stop allowing these things on the on on our aircraft. But just knowing that it's like Scott mentioned earlier where they don't give a fuck not only do they not give up what they exploit our ability to give a fuck because we care because we have this higher value for human life. It's now being exploited. So we're left with these decisions. It's like, Tom and Paul mentioned. It's like do we do what do we focus on? We make the best decisions we can. But we're gonna make mistakes. But as long as we go into the scenario with our humanity intact. Hopefully, that's how we emerge from that scenario just kill us. And do we think about it every day? Absolutely. But that's for that's for us to deal with on our own rather than make the wrong decisions that we did something we would have regretted later on in life. So I agree. I think it's important to to bring up the point. Maybe guys disagree with me. But you know, when you think about war, we think about in the classical sense, you know, it's us for Nazis. Good guys or so bad guys and got and you kill them all, but and I think that we don't it's not at the forefront of everybody's thought because this is so new wars, so cutting edge always wars isn't about winning anymore. We don't want to go and win territory. We don't want to hold ground. It's not even about how many people you can kill. It's more about how many people you don't have to kill how many resources is you don't have to expend. And you know, I think that at very very high level in our administration. They're still figuring that out. You know? I mean, why why wouldn't they still be figuring that out? But I think it hasn't trickled down to to the layperson either. Yeah. You know, like they think oh you joined the army. They giving them sixteen. Teach you how to kill and your they cut you loosely. It's not true. You might spend the whole war being a dental hygienist. You might spend the whole war. You know being a supply guy. You might go overseas. Six. To a dozen times and not see any direct combat and never pull the trigger and never get into a fight. Still a soldier, you know, most of the army most the military's doing those things. So the the the nature of war, the fabric of war and the shape of it has completely changed. And I think that you know, we haven't adjusted yet we saw that stone-age mentality of us for them, and that's not the case anymore. So, you know, not adhering to those morals and not following the Rb to the letter means when you have to make a questionable decision to preserve life or to take life. You know, it's not fully responsibility. They told you what to do. And you did it the situation met the criterion. Yeah executed, so when you put your head on the pillow, you know, you're you're responsible for your portion. And then you're, you know, everybody else's collectively responsible for the rest. At least. That's the way I feel about it. I don't know if you guys feel the same way. It's interesting perspective that I haven't really given much thought to till now. But you know, when you think about past previous wars, there was more about occupation of the land. You are taking over and since then I mean, we had no desire Vietnam in Korea in Iraq in Afghanistan really to keep a foothold on that property. And and occupy that space for a period of time other than to to ensure that those militants are those terrorists didn't come back in and caused the same issues that were there before beforehand there's been so much advancement suspend made within the F ghanistan community within schools and everything else that they don't wanna see that revert back to the stone age all over again. I mean, they weren't advanced people that went back to the stone age that has now starting to progress for it the last thing they wanna do is revert back to it again in a vicious cycle. And so it's a different type of occupation. But I think what you bring up in the true sense of Worrell. Have our everybody has been brought up of what war means. I can totally see that. Actually, it makes it harder doesn't it? Because then you have to realize. To your point Tom that you're more of a police force. Yeah. The cool guys. Don't wanna admit that. Because it sounds horrible. You know, we're not the world's police force, blah we operate under those same rules. We're not allowed to be the judge. I mean, you're giving a set of rules to follow. And all you're doing is sticking within those real just cops. Are you know, you can protect your life? You know, you can protect property you can protect someone else's live. But you can't murder. You can't judge him and say, well, he is suicide by you know, well, he wouldn't be that. He is the bomber. He is the guy doing this. I'm gonna go ahead and kill it because well, they're just gonna let him go. Anyway, if he's not that bad we went through a lot of catch and release in Iraq, didn't like it. I dropped a lot of people off across that bridge in let them go and literally rolled up one guy when I got back MSN s we launched another head enrolled that guy as he wrote in his cab that I gave him money that he got into in left, and he was rolled back up on the same target. We hit again, I grabbed his money didn't pay the cab driver put him back on the bird brought him back again. So guys get tired of catch-and-release, and like what I'm just going to kill more. Guys this. They don't they don't because you can't. But that thought goes through there. And if you project that out that other people, the young kids grab a hold of it, and they think it's normal. And maybe they do it. You know, you've got its usually the younger kids the group of marines. I got hit. And then he went into killed a bunch of people in the village, maybe near the dam or something, you know, buddy too damn or so I don't remember whether it was with those marines went in went into the town killed some release that was the the charge, but they got hit and they went in, and you know, supposedly killed other people. They were angry. They were young, you know, making poor decisions leadership has to stop that the leadership has to let it be known. You know, we try people. I mean, we've got a green beret a for murder now. Don't wait. Yeah. In a navy seal. And I and I think it comes down to what you're describing there is where again people are not thinking about that. And it's deeper sense. You can't be the judge and jury I think there was a even a special forces NCO who knew of a young boy. Who had been sodomized and wanted to be the judge and jury of the individual that was doing that. And again, you can't be the mayor or the judge and everything of that community. That's not your responsibility, you know, and in-command I think at that incident try to tell that individual not try to take the law into their own hands. That's not their mission objective, but it's easy to get caught up into that. Because you feel like in a war situation that you're trying to also take control. So me throw something back at you guys. What about those individuals, and they tend to be more of a younger generation view, this type of thing. Then don't throw his into this combat situation. If you if you're going to tie our hands and not allow us to do what you're paying us to do which is killed bad guys. Well, that's it. Yes. Kill bad guys. If they're a threat if a weapon anything in their hand, that's the first thing you look at her hands. You know, look at hands nothing in his hands. Okay. I can handle this differently. I can still take him out of the. Fight without killing him. I can get more information from them. They I might be wrong that might just be defending their home. You know, if a guy drops the gun as a quick decision right there. You know, guy gives up and drops gun. That's a quick decision to make. But he might have been defending his helmet realize that you were an American. Oh, I don't wanna kill an American. Now you killed him. The whole family must be good or where he changed his mind. He might give you a bunch of intelligence, which is which will drive you further down the road. It's more than just killing people. It's winning and a bigger picture, and you can't win at a bigger picture by murder. It never works is not worked out for any military in any country ever sort of like Paul mentioned earlier that I brought up on certain movies. I know for me personally like platoon was really influential one where it's like you see this direct combat, and you see this ethical and moral dilemma between two sides of the fight the guys who who give a shit about the team who care about preserving life. And then you have the KYW's who just want to go in and drop napalm and murder, and it's it's. I think the military does a good job with giving specific tasks specific missions to different skill sets. And it's when people try to branch outside of their scope and their little slice of of responsibility within that that you could have those types of mentality. Well, I'm I'm an infantry paratrooper. My job is only to kill. And it's like, they they can't wrap their mind around the bigger picture and that comes with being young and naive. We were all there at one point. We were all young and knew that we knew everything, and as you get older, you get a little more wisdom little more Cherney a little more life experience. You can start to kind of peel back your level of responsibility in your contribution to humanity and realized that maybe you could participate in a bigger picture. And I think it's it's amazing that guys like all of us now are taking all of our experiences in combat and we're applying them, and we're using them for a catalyst for change for good. You know, we're we're not allowing these experiences that we've been through these traumatic events or things that we regret or things that we will look back on that we consider our traumas. We're now using them to learn from it. To teach others from. And that's something that I wish that I was exposed to at at a younger age, especially as a young a young young PJ young military member. You know, we didn't the guys who raised me didn't have this type of direct combat that we have now are the guys that we've been doing, but all of us are gone through those fires we've been forged in those battles. And we can take all those lessons, and that was them and pass that onto the younger generation and help them to see something bigger than just they have a they have a trigger and a job to do. We can impart this, wisdom and mentorship on them. So that they can see you know, what what their responsibility could be in the positive contribution. They could make and sometimes you're a wuss for being a leader. Like that the young kids don't wanna hear, you know, if you if you have kids, you know, they don't listen to you anyway, but the younger generation doesn't listen. So you're a wuss. Oh, you're just afraid you lost your nerve or you're just an old, man. Now. Right. Okay. Yeah. We do need the young crazy kids to come up and do the things that nobody really. Wants to do like, you know, rush a bunker. That's being shooting at you or cross the street where there's bullets flying both ways. We you know, we were all there. But you need the leaders and in the young generation needs to hear it from the leaders that that's not what we do. There are rules along the way for that. And that's not what we do. You know, we can't be murderers. It's just it's just not who we are. And if you're murderer you're wrong. I mean, you completely and utterly wrong. And it's illegal no other way to look at it. I think that that's that's exactly right. You know, I think it is important to let people know like policing and soldiering are sort of merging together. You know? I mean, they're using our police or using our equipment over here. We're using their techniques over there were sharing intelligence back and forth globally military, sharing information with police on a level that we haven't seen since before nine eleven or prior to nine eleven so you know, the two worlds are sort of merging. I kinda wonder we'll ever be a big ground war, again, we'll ever be a war even on the scale of Iraq. Again, would it ever be necessary? You know, I mean, they're stuff happening. You know in Russia and stuff, you know, everyone knows us. Nobody wants to go to war with us that way, they'll lose was in the air force in for a few few months, and then maybe they'll send some other things will launch missiles from his ship. And then then maybe true, but not not massive forms because they'll just lose the difficult to find who this secret guys are. Run around doing all the damage and get them. That's the art. I think the the real catch your too, though, and responsibility will be on the government or on the judicial system Scott to make sure that if we're doing our part, then that there is a is due process that takes place and that they actually don't go on a witch hunt. But they actually do the responsibility in the investigation to make sure that it's true without discarding information in assuming that one part of the other must be a correct. And that's the whole due process that we're supposed to be allowed to go through the that's also becoming political just was social media. Yes. Let green beret go. He should've killed us aside bomber. I mean, honestly, if it happened the way that some people say it's happening with wrong. You know, you're in custody. Then the even even on the battlefield. It's our job to protect the detainees. Because now they're they're under our control, you know, under our guard we have to protect their life. So. Social media will jump on. You can't try a hero. He's a hero. What why would he do? The makes him a hero really as a green beret so zero now instantly come on. You know, it's another job that people. Do you gotta Greenbrier now? Good job go on and do your your job the way, you're supposed to then make you an instant hero. You know? It's it's literally your job. So social media jumps up and down in the news. You can't try the hero. Of course. Fox news. He's a hero CNN. He's a murderer. You know? It's all political. Yeah. So you you have to stick with the way that you digital system was supposed to be even though it sucks to try our own people at time of war or we can't try our own people. We should be. We should be whether the enemy files are lead or not. They never will. But we should be doing. What's right? The time. And nobody wants to hear it. You know, nobody wants to hear it. But if we do that, then we give free rein to anybody else that might be holding back because fences, keep honest, people honest, you know, locks on the doors keep the other. Honest, people on us criminals that just get in any way. Don't they? I mean, really that intent on robbing somebody or whatever you're gonna do you're gonna do it. Right. So anytime you leeann lend a hand of somebody whether it's mentally that is okay to do that. The you know, that might be the thing keeping them from doing it. You know? The I I completely agree. Do you have so much power as a leader in the military over the decisions that are made beneath you, you know, and so much influence on the young guys. You absolutely have to follow your protocol to the teas, and it's going to protect you. If you if you go out on a mission or a training mission. Whatever, you know, you're conducting yourself with that flag under shoulder, and they want to do an investigation after an incident or they wanted, you know, make you have sworn statement. Do it do it accurately truthfully correctly because you know. Like, Tom said, we should expect that of our Justice system. If you, you know, somebody says, hey, you committed a war crime, you should expect to be called up onto the carpet to answer for it. And you should hopefully be able to hold your head high. And then without fear that you're going to be convicted of something that you did not do, you know? And it's be all these rules are in place to protect us. You know, they say all you have to treat the the combatants that have been wounded. You know, even if they're enemy combatants will. Yeah. That sucks. I don't want to have to do that. But at the end of the day, you know, what if we lose the war? You know, where does Matthew end up if he's chunks guy the helicopter, you know, versus if he rendered aid to that guy. We still have stories about guys from World War Two who went on to no man's land. And rendered aid to Americans Germans who. Did it? You know in Americans who did it for the Germans and vice versa. Because at the end of the day, you know, we're fighting for humanity. We're not fighting to take lives, and that's not the point is just to exterminate somebody. That's you know. You know that ended in nineteen forty three. So well, look Bosnia were chasing were criminals. I mean, why do we chase war criminals? And then it's okay for us to commit war crimes that you can't even I just wanna I know people are gonna pipe in later and go, whoa. We can't do that. You know? No look about sides. We're not always the good guys. We have to play by the governments to be the good guys. We have to hold ourselves as same standard. We hold the world to over. Now. The good guys. It is just we can't let our own people off chasing other people for doing the same thing. Who are we to even act that way, you know? So I just want to remove that ability for someone to come in. And chime in about that later too. You know, so I like the cubs. He was legs off before they get running. So well, and and there's individuals that do express that. Hey, that's wrong or whatever they're not the traitor. They're not necessarily don't look at them as the the whistle blower, the bad guy and everything else because again, we're all supposed to be held to those same standards and holding each other accountable. Every day. So to that point. I mean, I think that's where it's the responsibility of the individuals. Don't understand what's moral. What's not what's immoral what what is murder versus what is being requested of you as an individual's a soldier, marine, whatever. And the same is true. You know as a leader, it's your responsibility to make sure each of your individuals understand what they're supposed to be doing what the rules of engagements are and what what those differences mean. Because it's not as Tom as you mentioned could just affect you. From judicial part of it. It's going to affect you in the rest of your the rest of your life in your head. 'cause you're going to be running through this every day and trying to determine whether or not you made the right decision. You didn't make the right decision. You want to be able to sleep at night. And you know that Paul that's one of the things that you describing there. It's that's it's a good thing that they asked you to actually make these records because at that moment while it was still fresh in your mind, you able to recall all the incidents. Exactly what happened in cover yourself. So that you knew good and well that you did the right decision. And you did exactly what they asked you to. And so that's that's really what a leader should be asking of their personnel. All the time. It's interesting that you mentioned morals robot, you know, because moral subjective on the street. You know, what we hold as a set of morals of the people don't, you know, there's countries out there that I think is perfectly acceptable to stone. The woman to death for being rigged good point in on. That's they Amoros. And they think that's right. The you know, the duct does fine for us to do that. So he comes back for me the professionalism, and unless as the more civilized part of society too old hold ourselves to the highest standard on. What we have a set of morals. The five of us are on on this right now. The people disagree with our morals. I on they may think that they aren't high enough they too high too harsh the two shelf, whatever it might be in. You know, that isn't a global rule book for this is what's right? We nor- in a society that that has that you know, and having forbid we we come to that. Because just takes away the humanity in the uniqueness of every single person in you know, free will and all those things. But it's it's it is subjective morals, isn't it? And that's why we have like the status of forces agreements. Nobody wants to go to trial in some foreign country for something that's legal in America you down. So we come up these agreements with certain countries because we fear that I mean, people fear going to Jalen foreign country. You know, it's it's a Nokia shift drills. Nugget doesn't ever look fun on TV? So it would never wanna do that. But yeah, we fall into their roles were in their country. We have to still maintain our rules because we're over there as diplomatic will for our own country. Still, you know abiding Barbara watching out for their rules Amancio, good moral people. Do they knew was right? But but like you said morals are subjective. So it's a slippery slope to start judging other countries on what they find legal and morally right because they've been raised that way since birth. I didn't even think about it that way when I said it Scott, but you're you're spot on. And that's probably what gets some people in trouble because they wanna play judge and jury because they. Believe it's immoral or something not like they were raised. But that's not the point here. You know, the point really is what is the law. What is your country asking you to do? And are you living under those rows and guidelines or under the guidelines and rules of the country that you're in that you've assigned you place an agreement within so. Yeah. So I think what we're really trying to state here is that, you know, quit trying to be the keyboard warrior quit trying to be the the individual who doesn't doesn't have that type of level of experience in a combat situation where you had to make that ethical decision. Because if you did you'd completely understand, and you'd be compassionate towards all human humans, and that you have a job to do in. And if you do it in a way in which you're supposed to do it, you know, then then you'd have nothing to worry about. But yet if you go over there, and you do things that are wrong. Then you're going to have to pay the consequences for it. Yeah. Be be proud of your mission. I don't you know, the days of wearing ears on a necklace or generations behind us. So if you wanna make a difference and be proud of your of your mission and your contribution. Then, you know, keep that in the back of your mind, let that be your guiding compass that do you want to tell your kids stories thirty years from now of how you rose above the tyranny, and how you didn't succumb to the bullshit and drop down to that level. Or do you wanna show him your, you know, your box with the all your check marks on it? You know, it's a. We can we can rise above that. And ultimately stand proudly of our contributions and our participation in. What is ultimately the most grotesque human behavior? Right. Like war is basically the the the absence of all acceptance and love so the way we participate in these. We can do it with compassion. We can do it with with a level head and and look back on our on our service and our time and our experiences with with with pride. My father recently died and taught me to things in his death. One is the first death of ever witnessed that was pleasant. Right. I mean, every every death. I've witnessed in my life has been horrible nasty in with full of fear. My father's was was comfortable, and he just died in front of us, stop reading. And it was it was pleasant. And that taught me that it can be pleasant. That's not scary people fray today that I've never seen it that way in this shaped me, and the other thing was he'd stopped drinking eight ten years bag, mainly for my mother. But he claimed he was an alcoholic. So we stopped drinking this last few days when I was visiting him. I thought he was just sick. I didn't know he was going to die us kids were trying to get him. Like, we're gonna get him a bear. He's never going home. Again. He's he's he's going to be in the hospital. She dies. Let's get him a beer, and we kept joking about it. But then it his memorial last week one of his his sponsor from a was stating that he was talking to stave news gonna die. He said, well, you might as well just go get a drink. He said I don't want to let my kids down because that's who I became. And that's what I'm biting to be a better person. I don't wanna show them that in the end. It's okay to change. And I was like, wow. I didn't even see that. I was trying to get him a beer myself. And he's like, I don't wanna let you down. You know, what I'm trying to please him by doing what's really wrong by his. Standards at the time. Yeah. Yeah. So really did for me to see that? And to to hear that after his death that he was trying to show us the way, you know, even even you're going to death. So the kind of open it up for me. Yeah. I like that. I think that's that's really important. It's like the classic do the do the hard right over the easy. Easy wrong. You know, or you know, the what's the other one? They do. I forget cousin. Very good at all the all the slogan the slogans jar. You know, you're supposed to make the right like all all the way to the end the heart rider, easy, wrong or. Yeah. That's a good one. I follow that. I mean, it's always a hard, right? When everyone around us like it's okay to do. What's wrong? And you still do the right thing that is following your morals because when no one else is people say with no one's around. You do the right thing. I'm like, well, that's easy. Really? I mean that when other people around you trying to do their own thing. And I think it's cool. And then you still do the right thing that set an example, the I agree. I think the most important takeaway. No, if you're going to sit down on the keyboard, send us a message about what you think you would do whether you throw it out of the helicopter or not gonna remember work isn't about your ego. We do get medals, and we get accolades and a lot of respect when we get home. But when you're out there doing the job, none of it has anything to do with you. Or disposable, you know, how you feel about the situation has no bearing on the situation. You know, the most important thing you can do is your job because you're part of the machine, and I think that's that's the most important part. Yeah. What would I do? Like, we all had an idea what we would do before we went over there. You know, once we got there once. Trained. We realized very quickly that wasn't anywhere near like what we imagined. So kept keep going check. It's part of serving. 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Janey Made a Toodle

"Yeah this is due by Friday. Weekly Challenge podcast with Merlin. Only man Alex Cox axe temple. This week's challenge have a marijuana. Did you watch the bachelor. Are you going to watch it. Yeah Okay Quinn did you watch alive you can. I watched it last night and and I love that show so much I was. I got so caught up in it when they were like. It's the most dramatic season we've ever had prepare your there. Were like a buckle up for the three hour premiere of the Bachelor broncos like sweet. God that's the thing is I saw that and I was like. Oh they got me the kind of got me like when the the winners Oh Merlin. Wow Quinn what a professional while. Oh I don't know if this is GonNa make it into the into the show or not but Merlin Merlin does not like discussing the bachelor. Oh Irene the Dubai Friday program. But I believe we're going to have a special bonus bachelor chat with Max Quinn and Alex coming to your fees soon. We'll discuss on fees Peter. We'll discuss what's her name. 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I'm worried that it's going to become like my new survivor. Like I'll turn analyzing like okay. This part's real. This part's not real. This part is almost not scrape all the all the critical theory that I love. They're all talking about whatever the trash was of their day. I mean they're talking about like pulp fiction and garbage movies and they're like here's what it means about the culture and I think it's a good thing is completely. The Bachelor is sports without sports thing that everyone watches. That represents the Zeitgeist. And there's all this this this package you know be Disney image control. That goes into it. I think it's completely valid to talk about that and be like what is happening in our society Too many people take it seriously. Merlin here all right. Hey Hey just want people to be happy. We were talking about infinite jest and nothing and we talked about. We were talking about serious matters day. You guys excited for Warren. We're in Iran who's exciting. Let's let's round robin. Let's all go around and say one. I've decided added to not have any opinions about anything this year. Every time I started given opinion I have to give somebody ten dollars. Maybe like oral Roberts or something on the marlins neither pro nor nor four neither for nor against the war. That seems a little nomad. No nothing we know. All soft on America. Alex where are you at you know what. While I don't support the troops I support each and every single soldier out there every every one of our boys yep supporting our boys Yup Yup. That was a pretty good answer. Wasn't it yeah. That was so good. I support the war. But not the troops chiefs I support. I support the president but not the troops. Oh okay That's they're not loyal enough to him. He's elected the right. Oh Yeah I mean. Somebody must've liked him. He's in there. Hillary should have one. Did you guys read. I sent you guys this article that I was last. I don't know what it is in the news. He's just made me think of it I sent you this Kapiti article about this thing called Millennium Challenge. Two Thousand and two didn't look at look at it right now. I've been looking at massive Danny Devito veto all day. Let me give you the oil. Well that's for the save that for the after show that God okay here. Let me tell you a little something about Millennium Challenge. She doesn't I really encourage. Did you everyone to go on the article for Millennium Challenge Two thousand and two and read about this but essentially it's a d. Do you guys know war. Games are a real a real thing that the military does I know. Oh more about it than I ever want. Okay so this was a this was a war game that the Pentagon ran in two thousand and two and it was it was two teams commanded by two you you know you have basically a general that commands the the US forces which is called blue team and a general that commands the the the generic bad guys in the Middle East who are widely widely understood to be Iran in an that was called the red team so as blue team versus red team and red team was did not. They don't say in the war game where gaming out what it would be like to have a war against Iran. They just. They're just like it's a country in the Middle East that has these properties and the properties happen to match up with what we know about Iran. So That's the set upright It's a ten day war game that involves A mix of real life troop movements and mobilization so all around the world there's like parts of the US military cherry that are actually like moving around and doing stuff to like. Pretend to simulate the war game but also it's just simulated on computers because you don't actually blow people up and stuff just like that so I basically the whole wikipedia article is worth a read Lieutenant. General Paul K van. riper sounds like a real baller. The van ripper. That's his name. General ripper got all. He's got a lot of ribbons. He was the red team right. Yep Yep he's the symmetric Oh boy so he so he decided really early on. He's like it does not make sense for red team to fight the US in a in a sort of one for one you know equal playing field. They used to say gorilla but now we say asymmetric. It's where like you have you bought so if you're a country like say the Blue Team I'm not saying it's the United States but if you are a blue team that has lots of very large weapons in very large transports do very large things. People can do things much more lightly or against a civilian population all kinds of asymmetric ways to fight a war that it's difficult or impossible for a large military to prepare for exactly so he so very quickly he realized he's like okay. The US has complete dominance. It's over like information warfare. They have like all of their stuff is like way more expensive We more destructive than we have and so he came up with with this ingenious strategy where they ran they used all sort of pre digital World War Two era communication techniques so he had motorcycle messengers. Bring orders from The command to the frontlines. They used a lights to direct air traffic control so it was the. US completely lost their technological ecological superiority advantage because they weren't able to intercept any. You know radio signals or anything. You ran a dunkirk. Yeah and yes yes and Paris ing so basically what they did was they completely shocked the US side by Having all this coordination without any like a radio communication or any things was total shock up counter attack and they just launched a bunch of like cheap flex shitty Scud missiles and I think they did so my kamikaze boats and stuff yes. You're warned. Blues Approach Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second the exercise in a preemptive strike red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the booths forces select on sensors and destroyed sixteen warships ships so they crushed crushed. The United States ready either blue cross blue. Yeah and then and then in that was on day. Hey to of the ten day simulation and so the Pentagon was like this is unacceptable. And they basically reset they unsanctioned all the battleships they go they said you did not sink my battleships and then they ordered they ordered General von Ripper who is the red team guy and they said they said play worse Wanted to throw it. Yeah they said they said you're doing too well and so they ran it and the United States want and they're like yeah. We're well positioned to win a warrant Iran and that's the intelligence that informs our strategy today. We're Aniston relation in two thousand and two and we won the millenniums wind learnings funny soap opera and also the pope hasn't commented on it yet and it's just very very well. I mean okay. It is well established that I am the Catholic character. I know you're the Jazz Catholic whenever whenever something happens in the world. You're waiting remarks from the point. Did you see how he slapped. That's good getting Lavar. Their margin deny doesn't sound like that's how people from Argentina will be they. Don't the ESTA La Bibliotheque again. He slapped never left it. Anybody slapping before Cortana payload detractors. Ray Hass Stig Gordon. These obey the poster. A bomb knows I got a I got the sub holiday gift basket that I'm just opening from a general contractor that we are no not on great terms with. Do you think this safety. Oh no sealed. What's the treatment? It's it's a milk chocolate drizzle popcorn corn. which if I'm being honest I really do want to eat just that? That's the thing is if Lieutenant General Paul von Ripper. That's exactly the kind of thing. General Van ripper. A two to a bluer. He goes. Yeah he has. A boat comes up. PUTT PUTT PUTT. PUTT PUTT putting is a big basket. Full of popcorn filled with chocolate anthrax so by the way has anthrax. And you go. I know that this is red. Team sent this over to That's how they get you to foil and to beguile all my efforts superiority in air power in public but on the other but that's on the one hand but on the other hand I want those tasty chocolate covered treats I'm going for it. I hope I don't get diarrhea. Get from this this I wonder if Max is still under the influence because that influence a forgot about that you guys. He's an influence her. Yeah Oh yeah sure. Arsenic tastes good. I wish that toto baby. I haven't fully paid the contractor director yet. So if they yeah buried it'll be taken care of in Wrigley Field in the DOC. It's all on the duck. We're we're all pro war uh-huh sure Yup I'm anti troop I. I WANNA see domination by by land sea and air. I want one our big wet boy to come out and sniff some more MHM for he he sounds CAN I. Can I be clearly impolitic for just a minute. Alex kind of have you been addiction. Yes please he sounds so coked up Enga- when he reads over telephone no seriously doesn't it sounded leaders KS president. We've ever had by far. Or maybe he's making fun of somebody who's he sounds very strong very strong. I don't are you literally. Don't understand now I can you give maximum addiction to dominate dominate. I'll give give give them a homosexual indulgence no joke. What's the joke someway voice? I'm going look that up. On Urban Dictionary I might be avoided sexual indulge. Oh well do you remember sorry. I'm not let bracelets say away. Just any stereotypes. I'm just GonNa say that the RMC as a whole the decoration looked looked like some men's decor that I've been to just like a subgroup of men who have golds all over okay so so I got. I got got permission for Alex. Can I have permission from Max to cite something from Chapo please. Let's let's go. We're going to die anyway the whole RNC has some really the big uncle magic going on. I'm telling you you got you know those guys are GonNa come in at night. You just you can just tell the it comes the Oakland phone chart and my phone is one percent. This is bad intern anti you. Please Bring A. I made eye contact with him. Oh No oh no. This is a disaster. Die You his injure now works. No Oh you're right he dominated. It'd me yeah thanks. So Oh okay. He he loved Clinton committed differently. Yes Cameron Cameron is ill which makes me very sad. He's he's sick man I'm Marilyn I. You're you're better cameron I it's actually you guy now she's listening to us all and drop a marker here noticed when trump trump sounds trump sounds like like he's really cooked up in millennial when he's reading off a teleprompter. I don't get it as some voice so so goddamn board and now I guess it's becoming increasingly more reported. Many people are saying that he really absolutely does need glasses and refuses to to wear them and they pump up the type as big as they can get it on the teleprompters and what was the one who tripped over this morning. It was a pretty good one. He didn't do the trick. I missed the Amtrak Nick. What's what's that? That's where he says a word wrong and he'll go like he. It'd be a virtual kits bleak and blitzkrieg. Oh Oh yeah okay so big sniffing and then somebody says Oh yeah a compliment. It'd be a huge huge strongly a compliment. It's when you know what that reminds me of is one of my cat goes to like jump onto a counter. Mrs Falls Down Low sort of you. Just SORTA dusted off. And you're like I meant to do that. Yeah I was going for that. Yup Oh shit dog. My very special lady friend got us a family Christmas present. Guess what we is this the fat boy we got the fat boy to get a little robot. Oh Yes oh my God your life is about to change and I love it. will she eventually use it. Please tell me she'll eventually use it. We're were your cats were looked at it. I I had our our cat adapted immediately. Same but Jamie's smart idiot. Well honestly I think she's just going to sit ed she. She has like a cushion or she sits on the couch right she has. She has doubles of everything. It's almost as bad as my daughter she has. We have some point decided my my wife. My wife decides things by Fiat. I think she feels things in the air that I don't. She's decided for example. She figured out one day by Fiat Win. The lizard likes to go to bed so we have to turn the lights off. She's he's also decided that the extra set of food and water in the hallway. She decided by Fiat that the cat needed a third so oh I don't know cross between of being being being PUTT. PUTT golf course for for a tap can get it through the windmill. Wow Wow so we gotta literally okay. So and what about what to do they use yours. Oh Oh yeah they love it and get the Bluetooth one where it sends you a push notification. Your cat takes a shit. We got the litter litter about three. I think it's the nicest one the the cannot get. The Wi fi connected it first of all two things about the litter robot first of all. It's incredibly ingenious. But it is a very much be. It is very much a Rube Goldberg device. Vice where there's a million ways they can go wrong. I think I might be having a problem with the cat censor because okay sorry go also so like like. Do you guys remember setting it up with the APP and I the two top buttons until explain to our viewers what this is. Okay yes all right Arlen set and watch this thing for an hour. I I just did it over and over and watch so so you get a literal by welcome to the first world okay. Okay some weight before I get in trouble with the millenniums. Let me just stipulate. We are cat as I said before. It's not funny. I think our cat has reception issues. I think she does not have. I'm not shaming her. I don't think she. He has an awareness of where her body parts are at a time. She has the coldest wettest Piss of any animal. I've ever encountered in my life so we start putting down piddle pads around her box because she just walks up puts her front paws in the Fox and the all over the floor. Now guess what I have a poodle. It'll pat antibiotics and now also by the way that I mentioned there's a liner in the litter thing that no matter what I do lips in such a way than an eighth of an inch of cold wet urine fills the entire side and it can't even get the get the club poop out without turning over the thing I'm going oh it's so called. How could they be? It's it's so disgusting and then hold it up. Hold it up to my family doctor. The Brown bag you feel how heavy that is. That's all cold wet urine. Do you know what I do for this family. So wait wait hold on you. Take you have a litter genie right. which is like the diaper genie with? No no no no we have eight. Oh God Alex you can make your you can make your child shitting robot. Sir With this thing is that I wanted to just state the case of I was not looking for a first world technological solution but if this thing works it will be miraculous so I want to get off. My chest was that it is. It's a bit of a thing to make sure it's setup exactly right. I think it keeps thinking the drawers full when you get solid red light on power. Does that mean. It thinks the boxes full. Well this is the one robot in the house. That matchy is responsible for but smart. That's right but I'll let Max maxine explained the particulars but it is such a fucking brilliant albeit Rube Goldberg. Let's start Greenpeace ship for our audience. That it's it's a it's a sphere that your cat takes shit in. Its Kitty Litter Globe. Yeah Yeah it's a globe like a porthole that the cat goes in got like a really really thick rubbery bottom that the litter sits in and then after the cat has done his or her their business. They're not aid. They got so angry. You were so angry the turns and first of all it turns counterclockwise and all of the litter and the EH leavings start to turn like very very a logie drier. And then what happens is the stuff that's not clumped. Meaning the good litter goes through the screen into into a little holding area. It turns back. And then the rubber thing gets like pushed out and that all drops in through this whole and goes into a receptacle. Michael like Mister show. POOPING chair goes into thing in a drawer. You don't and then it goes back and then the clean litter goes back in and you're good to go up. Pretty close is brilliant. It's brilliant to watch because there's like five different things where it's like a self cleaning shit box for the cab that's all we don't have the both of you don't have enough respect respect for the listeners. But here's the problem early on. I don't think you have it calibrated correctly because it doesn't understand. Wait wait and floor well the thing. We had to keep adjusting it for my cats because they started to really like it and they loved watching their shit like turnaround became love their shit. Like I'm Jay edited by it sits there and waits for it to go head to like make it as far as possible. Our cat runs out of the room in shame because she knows that she's just literally urinated all over over the floor. Then you need to make it as like how. How have you considered pudding? The vine of what animal is that. Because that's the the thing that my wife craves what is that. What's the animals? Wow might well know what my wife one one night one night my wife who I love love and his way smarter and Funnier than me she goes. You know because the cat always goes ow. ow ow become incorporated into my dreams because she when she meows she most meals at nighttime in the early morning thirteen times in a row and she goes Muraro. We're really awfully. Maybe she needs another set of food and water in a different part the house in any case. What's always said you know every time a GonNa feed her and I say get some greenies? She's talks in the Cav the voice and she gives her she's just once I should say thank you. I wish I wish just once she would look up Mingo. Wow no excuse excuse. Wow one of our cards videos that we show at the show where it's like an animal and it goes. Wow I do love I still love you ask. Yeah and now my daughter's really into tick tock so. This will come up later in this episode learning so much. I don't remember I can't replace it. Oh that's cute journal now so it's really good. Oh actual actual hot tip for you and everybody you you want. Want to have bowls of water in different places but you don't also want have food there because cats will drink way more water if they if it's not buy food because in the wild she read that that was one of the original things. Well what happened was we put it out for. We went away for a couple of days to get confused. Because you know you're in that weird window where like so you know it's not quite long enough to have the people come so like we put on extra stuff in case we die and automobile accident and she'll be okay you know like like it's your noble cat and so yeah yeah so we Turtle a turtle that goes all even cuter How turtle all right? Yeah I found it yet. It's the turtle that because while okay here we go. I'm going to put the putting the microphone up to my lap. Okay we can hear this all this all sounds too much like that turtle talk. I knew I knew that it would be. I knew it was a good mean. We should bring this. Yeah bring it back all right. So Yup wow smarts coming up. Well that's so once twice once I want to hear it once that only I hear it and then a second time when I definitely know other people heard it because I crazy actually you want your own special treat but you wanna prove what I what. I'm going to try next. I have. So which troubleshooting did you in my life. I've been trying to get a new. A new router hooked up in. My Office is driving me crazy. I need to fix the box. Okay so what I'm guessing is a because there's a lot of like you know they basically this is. I think this was a kickstarter ish thing and so they build these by hand and like I. It's Nice it's well made and actually the documentation is extremely really good as these things go. You get a paper booklet that you can read like a person but my guess is our number one something for some reason got screw in the setup and I just need to do a super hard all the way down in recent number two. Something's wrong with the sensor and therefore the red light keeps coming on because it thinks the cat's in the box one. I'm trying to set it up on Wi fi. Third one is. I need to be much more explicit lissette about doing a reset and putting it on like a board because it needs to be recalibrated to even say like. If you've got grout in the floor which we do you can screw it up. So there's all those things but it's really frustrating. I can't get the APP to startup. It's gotTA shoot the serial number and I will say the the networking like the networking of utilities in the in the in the Wi fi one. The first thing I'll say is you don't super need it because only functionality that it really has since you push notifications forgiving. Your cat takes a ship. Oh good I can live without that okay. You don't need it. I mean it's a nice. I figured it would be a law. The fantastic EERO APP. I was I knew. I mean they've been sponsored many things and I'm a fan and I buy them with my money. But like you're the guy you guys don't have reason to use an era up ever have. Have you know. I have a UBIQUITY ubiquity right right if I you ubiquity lifestyle but the euro is like to me the gold standard and also. I just bought a new printer so on the other end into the spectrum about this this officejet printer by HP that will apparently do just about everything and there's a documentation page similar for just about everything thing but like you said there's like four different branded names for how to print from something. That's not the current network and it's like you're so overwhelmed whereas with EERO use go and say like okay. I WANNA go set up a reserve. I wanted to set up a portfolio for this. Oh cool do you want me to a reservation while I'm here yes I would thank you putting. UDP putting your TCP. And you're like Eero even for the most advanced stuff. So Greg God. This is boring. I'm sorry if you're ever out to dinner with your family you and your Fa- you want all your phone buzzes. The same time. And you all take your on new-look and it goes your ship. Jeanie made it toodle. Yeah and then you go. Wow Wow wow no. That's the noise you make when you learn the nice when you're out at the at the getting your Zeppelin of of prime rib and right before the Zeppelin arrives in you. Take your phone out and you go. Litter robot just completed a cycle. And you're like wow the I want actually to reach out to friend of the show. Rosemary Orchard to see if there's a way to set a what okay we're name fake name yeah this mystical creature. I've created because there has to be a way eighteen. Put this information into a spreadsheet because I want to know if my cats are regular because I know this shit when we get home but I don't really like I don't know the intervals and I don't know which one's going so there has to be a way that like if you get a certain push notification from your phone that goes into the spreadsheet at a certain time if you want this happening at the phone at the device level maybe this is to me. Maybe this needs. People need to get edited. quick-draw marker but Rosemary Orchard Sounds like one. Are Those names. When you're reading a really lazy comedy? And they need they do a joke. And it's like someone's like Oh what's your what's your what's your mother-in-law's name. And you like frantically look around. And you're like a a microphone mic logic pro x Sylvia Blister Jennifer name breath. I've thought that was funny. I think there's only two good versions of trust me. I've seen every comedy every purportedly funny thing ever filmed and there's only two times that the joke was ever actually funny and the first one is when jobs up telling Michael how much he loves his wife. Leslie nope that he married overnight. No right the the the war criminal middle pointed at Gitmo pointing to the naked guys. Yes yes yes exactly. And she. And he's like a We love each other he. She's filing for divorce and he's like how could she do this. We love each other and he's holding the divorce paperwork and Michael Goes Joe quickly. What's her name? He and he goes Krinsky and Michael Goes. Chris named Giovanni looks down on the paper and goes soles inside nope that's her attorney and then the other one is where Dwight is out of the office circle because he's trying to overuse Michael and Michael's like what's what's the name of your dentist and he he goes against Detroit goes. Maybe that's why he became a dentist. This is unrelated but very similar. Which is the episode? I still quote this probably just about every day. But there's the one it's the one where Jerry blank is trying out a strangers with candy. Jerry blank wants to try and be a cheerleader. Do you remember this. And there's there's there's a lot of course of course it's you know amy sedaris in makeup. She's supposed to be forty seven years old and she's just horrific and there's all the cute girls that are trying out at our high school because she's back in high school anyway and she's trying out for cheerleading. And it's like you know the spell out the name of the team or the school. Whatever it was? Give me a T. A. and all that kind of stuff and then like g realize the Jerry can't read tape and she's like do you know what that spells and she goes. Fandango Hobo Hobo. Hobo Cam imagine what the over by going Fandango. There's one more that's very funny but I do a joke. No you need to go to the show notes to get the the joke because Irwin and I worked very hard on these show notes. There are about five people who when something isn't in there I get like I'm sorry I did not want to put the picture of the dead child that we talked about an all saying stop asking for Batman. Did you read the Maxon. Exquisite Bat Batman Hey Alex where where people go to find Shannon's for episode one six six of your Friday program Alex Inasmuch as much as. You're comfortable saying okay. I'm going to guess here do by Friday by Friday dot simple casts mustard number quickly slash creeds knicks dot gov slash. I guarantee you where more than sixty two episodes into no one sixty one sixty two that is no success we really want sixty oh my God. WWW DOT creed thoughts dot gov dot www forward slash thoughts stumping on my heart. What's her first name quickly? Couldn't he the true Okay Okay Okay do mine. I'll find the time stamp uh-huh Oh Jerry What Does V. I. C. T. O. R. Weiss fell and. Yeah Jerry. I love for so much I love it. It's a it's a horrible joke for. It's amazing that we we each have one of those moments of basically if that joke that sticks out for us because it's such a horrible joke format you think so. You think it's Kinda lame you think it's too late. Noted hacked joke to be like what Susan lamp shade like. It's just a terrible job. It's a horrible joke. I mean you should never write that. It's just there's something about the the way it's done and arrested development and the it's just the actor maybe you know it's funny to get to watch that with my kid who's not going to get some of the references but she loves it and I was saying like isn't it. Isn't it amazing the analysis and stuff so that goes by so fast right and they they just trust trust that you're going to notice and you and I what I said to her. was I feel like this show came out really at the beginning of the age of what I call the age of TV show. We're people were creating stuff knowing that people could go back and rewind and watch it again. You know what I mean you couldn't you couldn't have made that show with jokes are so fast. In another the era this is something interview with Amy Sedaris In the range of candy video my father called me late one Sunday evening sided with the news that my sister Amy David telling the story my father called me late. One sided with the news that my sister and use scheduled to appear in a magazine article on Young New York. Women can you imagine my God put in front of that girl and she'll shine look at diamond between single men and the job opportunities are phone is going to be ringing off the hook so anyway going forward here she. She told she went awry with unwashed hair and she said to the makeup I and I wanna look like someone has beat me up. Really really bad. They make up artists that job. The Black Eyes and purple jaw were accentuated by a series of scratch marks on her forehead plus yellow pool surrounded her blistered knows and we're we're fenced with Nin rows of brackish stitches. Amy was enchanted with her new. Look following the shoot. She wore her bruises to the dry cleaner and grocery store store. Most people nervously looked away but on the rare occasions. When asked what happened? My sister smiled as brightly as possible. Saying I'm in love. Can you believe it. I'm finally Lee totally in love and you know what it feels great. Wow how I mean. Well we're just talking about how other people are funny. We stop this and play all of the flop-houses Star Wars. Oh Alex is into the flop this at your first episode. Alex I had previously listened to one. I made the mistake of listening to one that I have seen the movie. Yeah like and it was all about chemistry and they had so much chemistry in that the episode. But I almost you know. I didn't make Todd Sabah tweeting about it but I I wanted. I really wanted to make sure they heard that episode because it was a win there in a room room together. The chemistry is especially so good. And you could feel STU and Dan having more drinks and it cuts so goddamn funny. I am so glad. Did you liked it because it's a little bit of difficult road flop. Oh no but also I like with these sad. I agree with a lot of chimpanzee. The Chimp Blacksmith. I've decided I don't think I'm going to see the New Star Wars movie in theaters. Because it'll come out door you'll get is isolated. That's my feeling I mean I am going to watch it. I'm GonNa Watch it because of how good the composite looks and the trailer. Oh the capacity and looks amazing the the visual effects really across the board a lot of people don't realize how much toughest G I I think it's a practice but it turned out that part is so I don't like I don't like when it's done with computers especially with the management of the positing team was was very very good. Did you really it shows. It comes through in every frame to tell. The story is what I say really. Yeah anybody that was involved with the visuals. Just might be their best work but I've I've decided it's like seeing the star. Wars movies in theaters is not the thing that makes me happy about them. And I'm glad that this trilogy trilogy like connects with people and they have great things about it. But it's it's not my thing. I already have my star wars movies and I'm a watch it just I just I just I why would like why keep doing it like it just makes me feel bad after. I see them in theaters so why. Alex try bullet to the head. That's always my recommended first episode and if you like their their personality you're going to like bullet to the head. Let's talk about that movie though. Hey I mean do you stay through. Obviously we all stay through every the credits of every movie but when Oh man I hate that button it lets you skip credits. I also just to watch the credits again. Giannakou are big sit through the credits person and so when we see a movie together we always sit in state through the credits. Because her the thing is I think her thing is that number one. It's like you want to reflect on all the people who made the movie and number and just see their names and it's like hey. They worked really hard to make this thing and the a number two is like. It's a moment to process the movie before you go out into the lobby and you get other movies. Advertise to you in a really good point you here because like the other thing I've talked about this on the show before before but if you ever are leaving of theater and you listen to the dumb inane. Shit that people say when they're walking out of the theater it is so embarrassing. I feel your emotions are still so hot and new. And we're and you haven't really like you say you haven't really processed it into anything more than just like how you felt. A few minutes ago rep- everyone has to have if some little quip that they make upon walking out of the theater and a lot of times it's like people will be like there was a plot hole like like I. I don't know it. Just they say the dumbest it. It's it's like funny and upsetting to me and I just super don't WanNa be that guy so I'll sit with bronner but on the other hand if I go myself to movies like with a friend or something. I'll leave before the final scene. I want to get to the parking lot. Well that's the thing you either need to stay until the end of the credits or be the first one out of this. You can get no. I look up the plots around wikipedia later to see how it ends. Yeah every every Lucasville go we wait and go top take. It makes me so happy. I mean we've talked about this but they are like no joke. There are so many talented people. And you can work your entire life in Hollywood and be like the best either even like a low level I the best in the world never work on a good movie in your life and it's just it sucks. It's all your fault because it goes further in that like I've I've had friends who had made a good living as a writer of screenplays and none of them had ever been mainstream awesome. Yeah Yeah it's it's wild. I think. Also people should turn off motion smoothing. Well I'm actually promotion smoothing living just as long as it doesn't help the troops I had. I had a little mini film related topic to ask You I. Oh can we a up for lead into this. 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And if you give us ten dollars a month at the Cox's this is cock level you get the RS feet of the supersecret after show but you also get periodically you get a treat in the mail. which is something weird and interesting that we make for you which we're not obligated to do? No no no we shut says on the page you give us the money because we want them you. Here's the thing. Give us all of the money. 'cause we want the money it's a treat because we're giving it to you. Don't expect too much. Yes so we have not committed to what the treats are when you get them but a couple timeline committed to doing in this show but a couple times a year. We'll send stuff out to people. Just what you fucking money and the treat that we did. We want to do a holiday treat for people and so we made made Series to weave these little by Friday prints that were making which how would you describe them. Just pure genius of Kevin Budnick on display once again that yet. That is a friend of the show Kevin so I think the idea for those. What if there were due by Friday funk Oh pops guess what started as Funke Funke pops? I tried to get us down to trading cards right then. We ended up somewhere in between which is bespoke handmade drawings by our brand manager and very good friend. Kevin Bug in the first set was the three of us and the and like a GI. Joe Or Barbie with our gear are each of us with our gear in but it wasn't sold separately so really retreat. So yeah the second in series of three came on. WHO's on those so I can't remember it's it's Merlin's Cat Merlin's cat? Wow Merlin's big president. Big Trek I and jared the time Guy Gerald the time guy. Hey Gerald AH realize you're sending those out also these are exclusive not even know. I don't get these I just don't get things I can. You give us ten dollars a month fucked out did night. I fucked up on on a strong songs in technology connections and my gray and give it to us now. I mean people. I'm I'm actually. It's actually very sweet. Because like when we send these little printout people put them up at their desk at work or they take a photo makes me so happy to see that these are highlight. I like I also like you know. The other thing is the way we did these. They're not like a branded. It doesn't say like Dubai Friday on it. It's just a little drawing. A little mini doesn't have like an MSNBC. You see bug in the corner like it's like it's just a thing so little cartoon bates thick a little mini print. It's like what like four inches by four inches. It's a little print six. Yeah but but eh. That's just one part. There was another part that I think people have found extremely sir okay. Well what good though you put that thing up in your in your cubicle or you put it up on your fridge or whatever and I like that it's like maybe someone else will see it and they'll be like Oh do right and that's Gerald the time guy right but it's not like a big way. It's no oh no Gerald's well now that we've talked about the thing that people can't get any more every time Max is not unscreened people should be asking. It is going back to his home planet. Where are we talking about own right? And then the other thing we made was a deck of playing cards. Also a hand drawn they Kevin Bought Nick. So Merlin is the Kings Alex is the Queen. And I'm Jack and I wouldn't well. It's too late now. You can't get but there's some nice little Easter eggs in there. Too as some of our friends of discoverable peanut butter and all kinds of stuff like that and then and then I made a video. That is ninety candy minutes long. Ride teach some of my favorite card tricks and I also went out to some of my magician friends and ask them to teach some trick. We did you upload that Oh yeah it's up on the shit see that yeah. Yeah so taught some card tricks in there. It's been cool. I've been watching on the discord. People have been the scores like the old chat room that we have for the show and people have been learning the tricks and then like doing they're like family and friends and stuff That's actually very gratifying. And Fun to see people doing magic and getting into magic it is it is. I think it's too late. Wait to get this stuff Like if you be. Let's say you became a ten dollar cock today. It's not like we're sending you this stuff because you you missed the window but if you become a ten dollar cock you'll get the next thing we send. And that'll be the next round of tweets and you'll be something new there. I mean like so. Lots of little asterisks asterisks and footnotes. I I just I learned a long time ago not to over commit but I think it's a pretty good deal because our shows really fucking good and we appreciate your support. There are some other little treats that we put in for for members. Only don't don't expect it and not too often but quick quick Credits credit credit's brags and thank. You thank you so much to Kevin for doing this and Excuse me featuring does for us I I I love his style so much and I also wanted to say I saw the numbers on this and we spent some dough on this so you should really grateful we turn that cash right back around around and brought the value back to the Cox and and I guess I just wanted to say I really do like genuinely appreciate everybody who's supported the show. I don't WanNa the bus gut about it. But it's it's really nice and I feel like for the size of our show and knowing the number of downloads and stuff. It's really. This is not false modesty. It's I'm really fucking proud proud. That like so many people help the show. That's all new. This get back to the bits. Now thank you for your service. He's unless you're true also also also them support First first responders to Seattle. Support the troopers not the true If you don't if you're not a ten dollars cock you will be drafted into the war with Iran. You get you get. I'm not an expert. I get some sort of deferment. Well if they if they show up with the jackboots on the door. If you don't have the Tattoo or flashing the gang sign of the Dubai Friday Jaycox okay. I they came for the first. They came for the free members and I said nothing because I was not a free member gave her all about her nation. Yeah you answer them funny. There's next the one of the coffee shops in my neighborhood that I go to all the time. There's a vape shop like one of those like one of those like real pop up looking so you know vapor vapor one of those top athlete conveyed shop as it's been there for six months or a year or so and as time has gone on. The store's wars window has become more and more political where they go. There's a sign in the window. Now that goes flavors saved my life. Like write your congressmen and tell him not to ban Dan you become a more activist vape shop and every time I won my yeah there. Yeah every time. I walk by every time I walked by it. I think like I. They came for the mango flavor. And I said nothing because I can have. You can have my Virginia. Tobacco appeal it from my cold dead fingers. Aw Yeah then. They came for my marlow own. Cotton got rid of clouds was ripping sick on you. Take away my constitution right in. I'm this video. are here my filmmaking question. Die Had so I made this magic video right at the beginning. I have this little MONTAG. I set up the little chubby camera that we like minded the motion time lapse of setting up the studio. Did you see Alex Right now. I have not yet for guys. Let's Mike Learn some tricks. There is watch my brilliant video posted. I don't spend my day on Patriots on so this is very rude so I can you. That's cool okay. Shaky about the passcode is a cool. It's worth the patrons the for the ten dollars bucks. Yeah Oh oh in there. That shouldn't be there. So if too many people watch it sorry sorry radiohead so into the cartridge wounded. I had this. I had this montage of setting up my studio and I was going through through itunes and I was like going through music. I'm listening to. I'm like what music should I put over. This time lapse amazing Max. Thanks so almost got motion. Yeah a little camera that we got it does that. He had the Chubby so I do. You know what I realized it was wait. I let me just play it. I was thinking about montage music. Well leave off on. You'RE GONNA WANNA leave off the watchman part. Why because then people know? Don't I know what you're going to hear from the Desmond Dekker Estate. I'm playing here. We go this on the scene so much okay. This is when we went back and rewatch this this thing sequence montage of him like building the spacesuits. It's so good. This was on the jukebox. We had a free Jukebox by the pool table in my college. So I've heard this song so many times so many times. It's a good song though so the first thing is that that song is as stuck in my head right now as any song has ever been. I've never heard the song before. The watchman thing that was my first exposure to it but a total fucking earworm of the song. Yes also how good that montage. It's such a pleasing like Yeah Mon slows down and gets a little study at the start of the verse defendant. Did I love that part. Yeah it's it's like that song you don't know it almost sounds like a gospel song at the beginning of a couple of the O. G. O. G. Reggae songs like from the Post like rock steady. A AH fucking great song to Song Gray Montage and I was thinking when I went back and watched montage. I was like I realized a I was like this is such good storytelling like they packed so much. You really get a sense of how long he's there and all the work he's doing and also at a genius he is and he's like you see all the multiple collect versions of things he's making and where he scavenging everything like. It really sells the idea of like how hard he's working for this. Now that I think about it montages are kind of like what's her name. Jewish jokes like a montage is horrific. Unless it's done well and then it is just brill- yes and so I was thinking yes so that was my. I thought it was like this is the best montage in any media that I've ever seen but also I was thinking I love a good montage to me to what I was listening back to. The they did the incomparable on Elf and I was forgetting. How many hilarious? Montage to me hilarious. Because I like more than people would like to know. There's so many hilarious montages enough. I agree with you. It's just a win the when it's used for lazy eighty styles storytelling. That's what made it bad is just you know you just you burn two minutes montage challenge. I'M GONNA write it down. Oh that was. That was my discussion topic was I was GONNA ask. Do you guys have any that stand out like like. That's a fucking cool montage Santosh I mean yes but should we. Should we save it for a challenge. I could make this challenge. I I was thinking I feel I feel like I remember Devil Wears Prada having some good ones. Yeah it was alright I the do you remember the pitch also house. I'll say the wire I don't I don't make over makeover montages. Can Dan be. There's two kinds of month hundreds of gateway overused in my opinion the makeover montage and the getting the Rambo getting ready for combat strapping the knife to your calf kind of thing under which I would also include stuff like you know macgyver. But like macgyver had a lot of very silly montages. What was yours maxwell? What's one that comes to mind? Why would say this? This is an easy pick but the wire the sort of end of season wire into season once. Oh my God yes well. It's I think season four the one with the school. Well I think is pro or no season three or four. They're all fours the school. Season Season Three's Basically seen one part to season two is the dock season. Five's the the paper season one's the one that ends with ninety on the boat right. Yes such a great ending. All of those montages are really well done. And they're also kind of notable because the only time there's non diabetic music and the whole show And so it's only tell you watching hours and hours of the show the only time you hear a song. It's not coming from the sea in these montages and they super stand out. I mean they are. What about finding the bodies and Goodfellas with Layla? ooh That's a good one. I think it's a good one. I think it's Alex you like movies. What do you think about that where they find the frozen frozen in the truck and the bodies in the car? Now you think so I will. Here's this wire want this season take and this one. I don't remember so season. Three a lot happened again season three. Well here's the issue with like gangster like Oh. We caught them at the end type stuff. After the godfather part one ending I feel like no other lives up to it. But it's it's pretty good and I also don't goodfellas. There's that single tracking shot through the club and that's my jam. Forget that's really really. Yeah Yeah you know trying to think no not shelter men. What do I think enough? I don't think that has a montage. Montage I did hear for some reason I woke up really early. We'll be like three or four and ended up listening to a ton of King Crimson. And it's just really weird. I heard how like you can be hearing a song for most of your life and then it's in a piece of media and then that becomes your new context for it like there's the scene where I think when they go to Michael Caines. He's house in Children men playing In the court of the Crimson King. And it's that's so imprinted on that so hard hard that now. Obviously one of the greatest of all time King Crimson songs. And when you hear it it's like I don't know it's just weird. A strange moments snapped together. Like magnets. Are there any montages a necklace. I don't think so. I sent you a good one in the in the in in the thing the dingus. This is the opening. Stand on your memory Merlin. See Carmelo I'm looking at an actress on. Oh it was a very good year. I don't remember this so this would be like nineteen ninety nine hundred thousand. It's fucking awesome. Yeah this is like Magnolia level stuff this is. This is the opening soprano season two. That's an all time montage for me. Oh yeah this is great. I'M GONNA put this in my best. Okay save hold on. Hold what What's Your Best Dick the my watch later? I'm Baywatch later boy. She challenged because I gotta go. What do I have something going on? Danny Devito for the after show challenge. Oh well okay all all right so challenge. This week was due a mere enjoy marijuana doing marijuana marijuana. I had thought I picked this challenge and I had. I thought that on the on January first marijuana was legalized and I thought of course Alex and I would go scurry out and we'd go by. We'd go to Hell No one candy shop of legal marijuana the dispensary. We'd just go buy some treats and we take them home in a smoke them. I personally would roll it up like a cigarette and smoke it and the privacy of my own home But Lo and behold there were huge wines at all the dispensaries and they're also really hope. No kidding how interesting it's fucking bone. Dry there's no marijuana donna in the city of Chicago accent. Oh other way to get it. Well I'm personally was so excited to find out what it was like smoke the devils lettuce but I still don't know the there's no there's no way of knowing there's no way to know what it's so I did not do the challenge per se. But I'm happy to have have a talk about about the weed did you did you a well. I guess I did that. Search didn't if the challenge listen if the challenge is to have marijuana okay you just have to make your peace with saying if you whether you did it or not. I don't think we should be too clever about this drug the statute of limitations is up. Also I'm white so we always here. This is my advice from from Being a lawyer you went to that you went to law school in the in the in the Strip mall. Yeah it's probably it's not legal to buy marijuana like from a dealer but if you have it I don't think it's illegal to have it all right. Forgot how you got it. Yeah well the cops will be like Juve receipt for that and you know and go about Your Business Awesome. You know what I mean you know. I think it's fine. I asked him to say say. Show me Your Dick because the only way you can prove Sir I am. Am I being detained. Citizens have the constitution on this card. I did you know what I was again. It's legal to grow like you can have up to like four marijuana plants or something like that. Maybe now this legal I should start growing we look at my greenhouse but then I was like well. It's legal to grow tomatoes and I still buy those at the store. I think they're GONNA AL capone you if you do that. I mean this is the AH ha ha. Here's the joke. That has been de deregulated for a long time. Places like California it has been legal in places like well go. Even further. San Francisco has its own pretty whack not Wackadoo but like pretty extreme laws about stuff like guns and certain drugs Berkeley Arkley in San Francisco or Berkeley in particular community. Where they're really always pushing the envelope? But the thing is just because it's legal in Berkeley does not make it legal in California and just because it's legal in California doesn't make it legal in the United States. And there's all these jurisdictional issues as I understand it. I mean you're the one who went to the Strip mall law school. My understanding is a lot of complexity to this and at the same time you could have stringency of like okay. Well this this county in Georgia has these crazy antiabortion laws but like. Is that the same here early Mississippi your hallways at your abortion clinic have to be a certain width. Because it needs to follow hospital guidelines and there's just such this morass of the ways that laws at different levels of jurisdiction jurisdiction collide with each other and I feel like I. I'm not a marijuana person but my understanding. Is that what you're seeing a lot of times is he. Has Its legal for this or legal for that for this purpose of that purpose but that does not obviously supersede federal law. It's just that they're not from jurisdictional standpoint they're not enforcing that federal law. In less less they went al Capone. You was that race. Always his like the law that he killed a lot of people who went to jail for tax evasion alcohol doc kill people. It's the same thing like why do white people get pulled over so much less than black people because black you'll get pulled over. They trump up some charge. beat the shit out of the person and like can you come up with these like. That's when people this is what white privilege people don't understand is like even speeding law can be used to. I mean you either know this or or you're rolling your eyes at how obvious this is even a law about speed. Limits will have a different level of discrimination based on selective enforcement right. Do you have my back on this. Isn't that correct. Yeah we we joke about. Being white selective enforcement is a huge thing and when we say oh this laws good this will protect us from the bad guys of whatever ever are. Bad Guy is what we're really saying. Is We have one more tool in our toolbox to basically discriminate against people who we'd like to jam up anyway. Well lobby now. There's a a obvious problem along those lines with the with the looks like you Chicago. For example with the implementation of the of the Maryland. Bob A law. which is you're not allowed to smoke so so if you're poor let's say you live in an apartment building and most of these apartment? Buildings have rule. That says you can't smoke indoors right and you also can't smoke in any sort of business or anything like that in the city of Chicago. There's no sort of indoor smoking in any businesses or places of work or anything thing. And there's also prohibitions against smoking on the street and in public parks so even though you have a sort of a right to smoke marijuana by law right you don't actually have the ability to practice that right so it's I would take issue with the idea of of saying I mean what is what what is the right right. It's like well it's like you don't mean right is whatever you can eventually defend in court. I guess. But it's like but you don't meaningfully have the opportunity entity to smoke. Oh no I totally. I totally agree with. Here's another way to look at it as smoking laws which started out when when things really started to tip in the nineties and the environment's really changed changed As it happens my Wife University Med school that my wife works at is the host of this giant archive of the all. The smoking files that came came out and stuff like the letters. I've told you about this letters of agreement with sly. Stallone had this many appearances of this brand of cigarette in the movie and all that kind of stuff but when I finally tipped in the nineties on the FDA Ah you know got the game on Then you started seeing lots of public health laws so as early as the eighty S. I told you the story about when I worked at a restaurant on the last day the before law passed we had to have a nonsmoking section. So my boss sent me to the hardware store to buy no smoking sign and put it over the worst table in the restaurant so that already. That's a little bit of a loophole. pull now got a nonsmoking section. Fuck you but it went from being public health laws to being employment laws so in San Francisco in the late ninety S. I want to say they made a Tom. A like an Osho Style Law Osha. But you know Employees Law that you couldn't have smoking in a place because it harms the employees right which is an interesting angle but then what happened. Guess what owner employee places that were all. The employees are owners. It's okay to smoke. which is the weirdest thing loophole after loophole of these these kinds of things? Well you've seen the Nathan for you. Which one is that so he oh smoking in the bar with with the play? Yeah if you're allowed to smoke if part of a play gas exact only so much the two ladies in the two chairs. Oh my God that episode is so good so anyway. Let's talk about happy things who likes marijuana I enjoy. I enjoy occasionally the marijuana hero. Oh you know here's a question I would love to. I would love to throw to you guys but also I would be interested in a in a feedback from the Dubai Friday listeners I have a question about this. So you know when you feel like I've been to a dispensary in California right and it's like a fucking like an old school I can't shop. There's just so many marijuana's us that you can buy all varieties and different Type parts of different percentages of different chemicals. Are they mostly like really clean and tidy organized. The one that I went to was very it was is almost like science feeling. It had a lot of those like sealed plastic containers and everything sort of crispin hygienic. Didn't feel illicit or dingy. Engine is as opposed to say going to a place to buy a bong in the hate where that would be a very different vibe correct. No it wasn't that wasn't stone. Read all felt it felt felt sort of strip mall strip mall health clinic like yeah. Yeah it was fine so you get a flu shot. Yeah exactly But My question is does it. I I'm interested in your thoughts about this doesn't actually matter what you buy or is it all basically the same I would. I think it's a little bit like wine. Maybe where like Maybe milk duds super connoisseur. You can slightly taste the difference or whatever but most people can't it really tall even the difference between red and white wine. Oh really it's all it's all tangy blindfolded tangy taste like wine. Where's my ribbon? Most most people cannot tell the difference between red and white one. Oh yeah including like wine. There's like you can go on Youtube and look it up but there's lots of like fun buzzfeed videos where it's like. We took wine experts in blindfolded them and they couldn't tell the difference between this type of that type documentary SOM- Psalm. That's just like oh so bad. It's good documentary. Everyone in their Tara. I'm Craig Middlebrooks and this debt reward card. I I will say I've seen like Like there's a difference between the Indica Sativa right like the his there you. Yes isn't an interesting if you read if you take a little baggie of weed and you're like Oh this is the one that chills you out and then you smoke it. You're gonNA feel chilled out and if if you have the same we'd news labeled like this is the one that's like good for creativity. You'd be like wow. Oh it's like a pot CBO effect. Here's here's the thing. INDIKA purely early appear Indika in a pure sativa and it's also like what what is quote pure anymore like most of the stuff you buy is a hybrid and it has has. It's like I think like nutritional supplements like there's all these claims or whatever but since it's not regulated what effect is going to have on your body some it will make some people really energetic giggly and other people. They're going to be super paranoid and want to hide in a closet like it. It is different but it all depends trying to find this on the Internet. Sativa is a heady thing. Indica is more like feeling stone thing is that right I I remember it. You think of it as into couch. So you haven't Indika you're GONNA sink into a fat boy beanbag. I've never gotten the same answer twice from people about what the different type I think. It's all may not know. Wait wait wait hold on. I'm interested. What have they said? It's everyone's got author own. Oh this is more of a body high in this is more of a head high and this is an upper and this is all fucking made up. Well that's because all of the plans have been like chemically only those two there's like actual scientific names for them or whatever but any sort of hybrid like people are just growing plants mixing them together like it's essentially a wheat so it's not regulated so it was like who knows Melatonin works great for some people it gives me horrific nightmares. And I don't like it I will say really interesting. Yeah do not like a meltdown and are you listening to the dream again. Are you back on the dream. Oh Yeah love it good and scary the like a like a long hiatus right. It's the seasons so yeah but nobody. I knew there was season two. I have like the first like three episodes. Yes I don't have a new one since like November off for the holidays but this is in and they're basically backing up chapter and verse everything I've been hearing from my shrink for years about like the quality. The lack doc of quality control especially Indian Chinese generics like it's horrifying and did you hear the one about that one drug that had sixty different impurities in it scary. And the Oh there's slight spoiler but like they're some of the supplements have literally It's like Male enhancement and they're literally putting off Brand Viagra into them. So you're just it's so scary. I the only only like supplements I take our caffeine really so like other than our challenge. So let me tell you this story. Though my shrink my shrink is like adamant about about like look. We're GONNA put you on this one. If you really WANNA do generic will do the generic but a really want you to monitor this and talk to me He's told me I mean he's a very interesting guy but one of his anecdotes does was. He had a patient come in and it was clear that something was extremely wrong. And like why are you still taking your WanNa say with one's not Alexa pro. What's one nobody? Nobody takes like Paxil or something or a meal. Anyway like there was one in cheap in on the generic of that and he he adamantly believed that she had not been taking it and at all but it was a generic and it was just like so. There's two things and people will tell you. They really what you to believe. They really want you to believe. There's absolutely no difference which is just scientifically untrue. What engineer needs to have? Is this much of a thing. Okay so when you say. This Saint John's wart. This needs to have this much saint. John's wart in it and then well first of all is it and is it the right amount but third like what the fuck else is in there and who's checking on it. Guess what nobody. It's bananas so we'll probably get to this later. But this is one I why you can't fight big CBD but like this is concerned with the CD well because CBD does one or two things to me absolutely nothing or it makes me trip. Yep and I. There's no other reason for me to believe that I'm waking up tripping like honestly feeling like I'd habitat of asset which I've had many times. Well there's no unsafe dose. There's no you're literally you could take the entire extent amount of CBD oil that ever will be created and give it to your family and literally literally nothing can happen except except for minor improvements child's. It's an adapted. Jin Alex and adapt. Well I think that's because it's not like wine. Wine is alcohol like it's going to have most of the same alcohol content and we're not talking about this too. I really running a little long here. This is what gets to the question via marijuana I have a whole sordid history of marijuana talked about before. Suffice it to say that while most drugs I can have all the drugs or it can have all of the alcohol. There's something thing about marijuana were either. Does nothing or way way way too much with me and I know. CD well supposedly not marijuana. And there's absolutely no oh. THC The could even possibly be in there but why is it that my body either feels absolutely nothing or way way way too much based on the difference of drops. I think you have an allergy you to some specific day. It's what what's bad allergic. They're allergic to troops. RUPAUL DOT COM.

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Scientists study volcanic lightning

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02:28 min | 3 months ago

Scientists study volcanic lightning

"You're just a couple of days away from the fortieth anniversary. Mount Saint Helen's nineteen eighty eruption. And as Komo's Ryan Harris tells us all these years later the mountain is still teaching US lessons. There's a lot of learning at Mount Saint. Helen says Dr Seth Moran the scientists in charge of the US Geological Surveys Cascades Volcano Observatory. Who tells me they're still a lot being gleaned from the main event and the eruptions that happened in the weeks and months after to understand the dynamics of how the cloud devolved questions right now. People are getting into about the generation of volcanic lightning and there was no lightning. Those observed reported and we can see some deposits. We have a pretty good idea of the timing of some of those deposits relative to say when Bulk Lybian was was being generated. Some interesting ideas that are starting to be developed about win. Volcanic lightning occurs in interruption sequence. And what it means when it starts happening in terms of bashing the air. How hard can we go? And things like that. Miranda's the big lesson. Though is still the lateral blast and landslide caused by the eruption which broke trees like they were matchsticks or burned everything in its path because of the hot gases that escaped not to mention burying much of the area in deep debris and sending a mud flow down the north fork the toodle river. The landslide was what took the pressure off of the magma that intruded into the volcano and generate a lateral blast and it was certainly appreciated. That's the bulging of north flank of moving out at a rate of five or six feet a day that was producing a flank that was unstable and it was certainly understood. That rockfalls landslides avalanches. Were in the future of Mount. Saint Helen's but it wasn't appreciated helbig. That landslide of wasn't how instantaneous was. GonNa it was GONNA be an Moran says since then geologists have learned a lot about what deposits from that kind of a landslide look like around volcanic areas and have taken that lesson and applied it to volcanoes around the world. And it's now much more appreciated. By the volcano community that landslides are part of what volcanoes can do. And that is something that in certain situations where you've got an unstable flanks. That's obviously building our that. That's a very real thing that needs to be taken into account when doing hazard assessments. Those hazard assessments are important because Dr Miran reminds me of something we should all keep in mind not only is Mount Saint. Helen's still active but so are several other cascades volcanoes including Mount Ranier.

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Bitcoin - A Bounce Or The Bounce?

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07:19 min | 11 months ago

Bitcoin - A Bounce Or The Bounce?

"London listen up we will be with you taking a checklist by trading strategies on the back of the say-say form October twelve at the Queen Elizabeth Conference Prince Center. If you want to learn these trick was based trading strategies that employ for quite some time you. WanNa learn it in person. Get yourself booked. Now we have thousands of people let's say say form and the event will sell out quickly from there we move on to Malta on the ninth of November. 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Peter Pan III

Tales

42:25 min | 1 year ago

Peter Pan III

"The Amazon prime original series lore returns on October nineteenth with new true tales. This six episode series. Includes two stories that have never been heard on the podcast before the scariest stories are true season. One available now watch the new season of lore October nineteenth only on prime video. Have you ever been in a life or death situation? What's it like to be in a position where your life hangs in the balance or to be the person responsible for freeing the innocent held captive on par? Cast new show hostage will explore these complex heart pounding situations. Some with endings that went tragically wrong and others with miraculous reunifications subscribe now to hostage as our hosts go behind the scenes inside the world's most intense hostage negotiations and be sure to stay tuned to the end of this show for a sneak peek of the first episode hostage premiers Thursday October eighteenth with new episodes every Thursday search hostage wherever you listen to podcasts. And subscribe now. The pick and any band waited quietly in the clearing tiger lilies. Stood surrounded by her tribesmen. Twirling a stone dagger in her hands a ferry messenger. Had fetched them early that morning with a request from Peter Pan. Thinking of Penn brought a faint smile to her lips before the night on the lagoon. She hadn't thought much of the ratty boy who flew from tree to tree. But now that he had saved her life. She was in his debt. It was the least she could do to escort the lost boys and their mother to the shore. They waited for the lost boys to emerge from their hideout. Her ears perked up. She exchanged a glance with lean wolf her right hand, man, and most battle-hardened warrior syncing the same disturbance. He grasped the acts by his side every muscle tents in an instant everything went wrong. The pirates bursts from the trees with almost no warning and cut into the pekingese Alf Mason broke the line and headed straight for lean wolf who dispatched the man with a single blow of his axe. They stood no chance. Many of the pekingese fell before the swords and pistols of the pirates. Tiger lilies. Closest warriors gathered around her into a failings and made for the trees slashing through pirates as they went. As the paltry band of surviving. Warriors vanished into the trees tiger lily cast a glance over her shoulder in the clearing behind them. She saw lean wolf collapsed to his knees. Bleeding from a dozen wounds tiger lily turned away from her companions demise. Whatever cruel fate captain hook had in store for them. The lost boys were on their own. I'm Vanessa Richardson. You're listening to tales today. We're finishing the story of Peter Pan in this week's episode Peter's conflict with captain hook reaches its deadly conclusion the tails on this podcast are dark sometimes scary and full of adult themes. This story includes sword fighting poison animal attacks and murder most of it involving children please exercise caution for children under thirteen if you want to hear more tales, you can find all of our casts podcasts. Wherever you listen to podcasts. Many of you have asked how you can help the show if you enjoy tales the best way to help us is to leave a five star review wherever you listen. For now. We return to the wounded Peter Pan trapped on maroon rock as it disappears beneath the rising tide unable to fly or swim due to his wounds all seemed hopeless for our youthful hero. The icy water closed over Peter's feet it hadn't been this cold during the skirmish, but Peter's mood had an effect on all the weather in Neverland, he shivered goosebumps spreading all over his body trying to distract himself from the creeping tied. Peter looked out over the moon speckled lagoon something stirred in the near distance. And he squinted to make it out. It was the never bird still writing her nest like a raft somehow she had gone completely undisturbed during the battle with the pirates. She flaps her wings furiously trying to force her nest against the current and toward Peter Peter blinked and confusion, what was this creature doing surely, it should be going the other way towards shore and safety as it drew within arm's reach the bird flapped its wings and lifted out of the nest Peter understood it wanted him to ride the. Nest back to the island Peter grinned in thanks began to step toward the nest then stopped there were two large eggs nestled among the twigs. There was no way he could sit in this nest without damaging the eggs Peter looked left and right and finally his eyes alighted upon a solution. Starkie's hat was still floating mere feet away. Peter scooped one of the never birds eggs out of the nest and before its mother could react in alarm. He deposited it in the pirates hat the hat bobbed dangerously but did not sink. Peter took the second egg and placed it in the floating headwear, the never bird flapped down and settled carefully on top of her eggs, it crowed happily. Peter stepped out of the water and into the never birds newly vacated nest he crowed back at it. Peter road, the nest to the shore and left it there. For the never bird defined. He rushed back into the forest ready to delight the lost boys with the tail of his miraculous survival to Peter surprise, he arrived only shortly after Wendy Michael's. Kite had carried her all over the island before landing at the lost, boys. Hideout. The boys were ecstatic not only to be reunited with their pretend father, but to have stayed up past their bedtime without their pretend parents getting cross with them the event of the lagoon marked a turning point for the lost boys and the pick and any tribe upon learning that tiger lily was rescued by Peter Pan. They declared Peter and his friends honorary members of the tribe. Peter took to this immediately flying off to join war bands and hunting expeditions almost every night. One day Peter returned to their home to find the lost boys. Arguing over who gets to be father while he's away. He was struck by a terrible fear and asked Wendy, it's only make believe isn't it that I'm their father. She nodded he ac- he continued. It would make me seem so old to be their father. Then completely out of the blue Wendy asked. What are your exact feelings for me, Peter that of a devoted son, Wendy, that's what she thought she told him and strode defiantly to the other end of the room? Peter was utterly baffled by this. She behaved so strange around him and tiger lily did too. It seems there's something they wanted to be. But not his mother. No, indeed. It is not said, Wendy, but she refused to say anymore. When Peter asked Tinkerbell would Wendy meant, she called him, a silly ass and shut herself off in her boudoir for once it seemed like, Wendy and tinker bell agreed on something Peter didn't like that. It made him feel like an alien in his own home. He declared that they should all go to bed at once. Immediately. All the lost boys converged on him and begged for a story not wanting to disappoint them. Peter consented, Wendy, tucked them, all into their beds and began. Peter didn't like this story. There were no adventures or fantastic locations. It wasn't like any of the fairy tales. She usually told unlike Cinderella or repel this story centered around a couple that was already married a Mr. and MRs darling, Peter didn't like them. They seemed like the sort of people who didn't believe in fairies. And the end of this story was not at all a happy one. It ended with them waiting at an open window longing for their children to return to them when Michael and John cried out that this was not a good ending Wendy explained to them that the story was of their real parents who they had deserted to live in Neverland this story stirred their memories, Michael and John suddenly remembering their home parents and nanna demanded they leave at once. The other boys sprang from their beds in protest, Joel. Leave us Wendy toodle begged. Perhaps Wendy said, I shall take. You all with me the boys found this idea? Thrilling the had never lived in a proper English household before it seemed quite the adventure. They turn to their leader for approval Peter had remained silent. All this time sitting in a corner with his pen pipe Peter told Wendy the story of his own mother how he had flown away when he was very young and upon his return discovered. She had forgotten all about him and shut the window. He intended this story to convince the boys to stay, but it had the opposite effect, John and Michael were filled with a new urgency to return home Wendy had to calm them down. Not tonight will leave in the morning Peter can you make the necessary arrangements? If you wish it he replied as Cooley as if she had asked him to pass the nuts when they went to bed that night. Peter began breathing rapidly at top speed. He reached five breaths in a second. There's a saying in Neverland that every time you breathe a grownup dies in his mind. He was killing scores of them as rapidly as possible. The next morning. The lost boys packed their things and prepared to leave slightly nibs toodle 's curly, the twins and finally John and Michael lined up to exit the underground hideout Wendy, turn to Peter. I'll give you your medicine before you go. She said and drew up a small draft of water for him. Get your things, Peter. Peter told them he was not coming away the despair passed through the lost boys and they begged him to join them. He refused to say another word and lay back down in his corner. They were at a loss would would the lost boys do without Peter Pan. A noise from above dispelled. This thought at first they thought it was the pick any band come to escort them to the edge of never land. But then they realized it was the sound of a battle. They crouched in the cave waiting for the violence to subside nibs ran over and suggested to Peter that he lead them into the fray, but Peter remained silent. Sullenly the boy returned to the group. The drum it meant the in these had claimed victory over the pirates rejoicing the lost boys and Wendy climbed out of the hideout to meet their allies Tinkerbell ascended with them to provide ample ferry dust for their journey. Peter was left alone. All was quiet. Peter squeezed, his eyes shut trying not to cry. Eventually he drifted off to sleep unaware of the trap all his lost boys had just fallen into. We'll continue the story after this short break. Are you ready for the newest show coming to the park cast network? It's called hostage, and it tells the complicated stories behind the world's most intense hostage negotiations hosts Carter and Irma examined tactics used by the F B I's crisis negotiation unit world governments and even hostages parents highlighting the moments where things went tragically wrong as well. As techniques that miraculously saved lives. Each episode explores the negotiations hidden from the public eye and the complex webs of movement needed to extract hostages safely in these life or death circumstances checkout the trailer. Some criminals use guns. Some use explosives. The worst criminals us hostages. One wrong word one wrong move and the hostages are dead. Hostage. The newest podcast from par cast tells electrifying crime stories culminating in intense life or death negotiations. Don't wait subscribe to hostage now. Wherever you listen to podcasts. The Amazon prime original series lore returns on October nineteenth with new true tales from an executive producer of the Walking Dead and an executive producer of the exorcist and inspired by Aaron monkeys. Terrifying podcast, Laura explores haunting real life tales that give rise to our modern day, myths and legends. This six episode series. Includes two stories that have never been heard on the podcast before start the Halloween season with some of history's biggest nightmares, which is serial killers, a bloodthirsty Countess accursed clock and a rocket fuelled devil. Worshipper? The scariest stories are true season. One available now watch the new season of Laura October nineteenth only on prime video. And now back to the story. As soon as Tinkerbell cleared the ground. She was nearly grabbed by Grumbly hand. It was one of the backwards. Hands of nude ler. She slipped through the pirates mismatched fingers and dove into the grass concealing herself in the long FRANZ before she could call out. The lost boys fell into hooks trap. Curly was out first and was grabbed by check. Oh, check. Oh, then tossed him to sme- who tossed him to Starkey who tossed him to Bill Jukes who tossed him to noodle or until he wound up at the feet of hook himself. The dreaded pirate captain stood aloof from his rejoicing crew as they flung one boy after another at his feet. He seemed inpatient he stroked his hook with a delicate finger there was only one boy of any real interest to him when Wendy came out last Hoke offered her as arm. She was stunned into silence by this gentlemanly gesture Hoke led the paralyzed girl away and presently discovered the house, Peter and the lost boys had built for her. He commanded the pirates to load them into it and carry them to their ship. Tinkerbell stayed behind after most of the pirates and children were gone hook and Smee remained in the clearing eyeing the trees, the boys that emerged from none were large enough for the Irishman but hook found that slightly tree had been carved wider than the others by its owner wide enough that the captain could fit through it. Tinkerbell watched in horror as hook passed his elegant hat and overcoat off to sme- and climbed into the tree foot. I she darted over to a different tree and dove beneath the surface tracking the path of the pirate. What she saw when she went underground nearly took her breath away. Peter was lying fast asleep in the chamber hooks is flashed when he saw his enemy lying, so helpless. He reached out with his hook. But could not quite close. The distance slightly tree was not white enough at the very end to let this evil man into their home. Peter remained ever so slightly out of reach. Tinkerbell saw hook withdraw his iron hand and thought for a moment that they were saved. But she was mistaken hook drew vile from within his waistcoat and reached it over Peter's head. There was no mistaking when it could be poison. With a few deft shakes hook. Let five yellow drops fall from the vile into Peter's medicine the man withdrew alarmingly fast almost as if he was swallowed by the tree itself. Tinkerbell darted at full speed toward the drink. Aiming to knock it off the counter Peter woke far faster than she N -ticipant. It'd his yawning hand struck the ferry and sent her spinning against the wall. She righted herself and hurriedly informed. Peter that the lost boys and Wendy were kidnapped. Peter was on his feet heartbeat. Seizing his sword. From the wall and eager smile grew on his face. His melancholy had completely vanished. He was ready to rescue Wendy as he made toward the door. He halted I should drink my medicine. I as he reached for it Tinkerbell shrieked stop. It's poisoned. Peter laughed plays in by who. Peter smiled at tinker. Bell's just there was no way hook could have gotten into their hideout without him knowing he started to raise the Cup to his lips tinker Bell's heart almost stopped the boy, she loved was inches from death. She did not have time to explain what had happened that was only time for action she leapt off the ground and flew straight for the space between Peter's lips and the foul drink. She wedged herself between them just in time. And drank the medicine down to the drags. The draft hitter in a violent spasm she reeled through the air and collapsed onto the ground. Her light was dimming visions swimming before her is all her insides burned with an intense heat. Then everything went black. Peter stared in shock. He had seen death before he had killed pirates and had seen lost boys killed by pirates and pekingeses, but tinker bell was different. She had voluntarily sacrificed her life for his he dropped his sword to the floor a lump rose in his throat. He gingerly picked up tinker Bell's body. She was cold to the touch he begged her to stop playing games with him. But she did not respond his best friend was dead. He said her in her perch and reached out his arms. There was no one else in the room. But he did not care notice. He was reaching to all the little children dreaming of Neverland and their nurseries with all his might Peter sent a message into all these dreams. If you believe in fairies, clap your hands, don't let tink die. I silence. Then a chorus of clapping rose from the very fibers of Neverland itself. Tinker Bell's light flickered Peter started clapping himself tears of hope forming in his eyes her lights started to shine strongly. She was alive again falteringly Tinkerbell rose to Peter's I level and spun in a circle Peter crowed with joy. He took up his sword from the floor and made a dreadful vow. It's hook are me. This time. Peter Pan, tinker bell burst from the ground and made their way through the trees with deadly speed nothing would stop them as they cut their way toward the jolly Roger but something did stop them a site to strange and to delightful to go unnoticed as Peter passed through the trees, he caught a glimpse of a scaly reptilian hide a glimpse. But no sound. It was the crocodile no longer ticking. The clock had finally run down hooks time was up. James hook paste, the deck with a dread restlessness. Peter Pan was surely dead by now, and he had captured pans entire band. The boys were ready to walk the plank victory was his so why was he so troubled? James hook was a profoundly lonely, man. Hook was not his real name. Of course, his crew had voluntarily forgotten that at his command. It's a name you can find only if you peruse the records at Eton College where he spent much of his formative years of all the lessons taught to him at that prestigious school, the one that stayed with him was a passion for good form. However, far he had fallen from that noble. Schoolboy good form was all that mattered in the end a horrible thought occurred to him. No children loved him. This never bothered him before. But over the night, he noticed something strange. His loyal boatswain Smee had been guarding the boys all night, and though he called them horrible things and made all kinds of threats. They loved him this mystery tugged at his mind like an anchor is it perhaps because SMI? Had good form without even knowing it. And did that make him a superior man to his captain hook longed to claw sneezed throat with his hook? But to claw man with good form would be bad form this paradox. Confounded hook. The boys and Wendy were all dragged up onto the deck. They'd been bound together. So they could not fly away one by one hook offered each lost. Boy the chance to join his crew perhaps if no children loved him. They could learn to respect him each time. His offer was turned down in favor of a watery grave, the dread man turned on Wendy silence. All he commanded for a mother's last words to our children. She stood as tall as she could against him. I have a message from all your mother's. We hope our sons die English gentlemen. Even the pirates were awed by this. The lost boys began a cheer, but we're swiftly silenced by hook who slammed his iron hand on the mast tie. Harrap? Sme dutifully tied her to the mast hoax. Piercing gaze swept over the rest of the boys deciding which would be the first to walk the plank. We'll return to the jolly Roger in just a moment. I have some exciting news for you starting now, you can listen to tales episodes that are older than six months completely ad free exclusively on Stitcher premium. We're always looking for ways to improve the listener experience. We found an amazing partner in Stitcher to bring you episodes ad free six months after they're released again, this will only affect up Assode older than six months. Nothing else will change. We'll still be releasing new tales episodes wherever you listen to podcasts for a free month trial. Go to Stitcher premium dot com slash podcast and use promo code podcast. That's Stitcher premium dot com slash podcast and use promo code park cast. Now back to the story. Wendy watched helplessly from the mast. She couldn't bear to watch her brother's walk the plank, and yet she could not look away hook looked hungrily from boy to boy deciding which one would make for the most painful first casualty. Hoke collapsed to his knees. His face had gone white as a sheet. Wendy watched fascinated as all menace drained from the man Wendy looked this way and that trying to figure out what side of the ship. The crocodile was coming from. It seemed like the ticking came from all around. Hook rose to a shaky stand the ticking had come and gone so quickly. He had no time to regain his composure. He opened his mouth to command his men once again when the ticking resumed this time coming from his own cabin. Wendy listened carefully. Something sounded familiar about the ticking sound she couldn't quite place. It hope commanded Bill Jukes to investigate the mysterious ticking cabin the fearsome tattooed man did as he was told clutching cutlass in his quivering hand. After a moment of silence hook commanded check. Oh to check. What happened check? Oh, peaked into the cabin and returned to hook sweating. Profusely Jukes is dead. Captain stabbed a ripple passed through the pirates. But hook was silent the color was returning to his face. He commanded check. Oh to investigate. And when the man protested, he brandished his namesake check. Oh, cowed by his fearsome, captain vanished into the cabin. Wendy exchanged glance with the lost boys. All of them had the same thought. After check. Oh, ho commanded Starkey to follow Starkey begged for mercy. And once again, the captain raised his hook over his head Starkey fled from the dreadful captain climbing onto the cannon to escape hoax reach, but he could not escape hooks dreadful gays after perching on the enormous cannon for a terrified moment. Starkey leapt off the end of it into the sea, Wendy almost laughed at the absurdity of this but held back for fear of drawing hooks wrath. Hoke wheeled on the prisoners a horrible grin forming on his lips. Let's send a children in day grabbed the bound up children and forced them one by one into the deathly cabin all the lost boys made a show of begging and pleading with their captors before they were thrust within once the last had vanished through. There was silence. Hook and company waited expecting nine cries for mercy, Wendy grinned. She knew the lost boys were completely safe in that cabin moments later the door. Swung open and the boys charged forward armed for battle, Peter Pan, himself burst from the cabin and circled overhead Wendy looked over to see hook blanche once again this time with rage. The pirates drew their swords and the final battle for Neverland began. Shaken and disturbed by Peter's guerrilla tactics. Earlier the pirates were not ready for a sudden onslaught Wendy watched in delight as they fell before the lost, boys. It was such a chaotic brawl she could barely follow. What happened during the chaos? Peter cut her loose before diving back into the fray, she was momentarily disturbed when she saw her youngest brother, Michael ruthlessly. Cut down nude ler. Eventually always still Hoke was still standing surrounded by a ring of victorious children Peter Pan hovered before him grinning, proud an insulin youth hook declared prepare to make Di dum dark and sinister man Peter Pan returned have at the the pirate wielded sword and hook with. Utter ferocity pan dodged and flew around his faux sword swinging with every clash the lost boys backed away from this deadly whirlwind of sword. Play finally hoax blade and Peter's tangled between them in a knot of metal. While entangled Peter raised himself off the deck and kicked hook directly in the stomach knocked off balance hoax slid and fell off the edge of the deck as he plummeted toward the water. He led out a defiant cry of. Before he hit the water. Hoke never saw the crocodile. It had been waiting silently since the battle began. It had followed Peter's imitation ticking. As he led it out to the jolly Roger it had ignored both Starkey and later sme- when they dove into the water for safety. But now that hook was there it descended viciously on the man. The jolly Roger was there's and Peter Pan was her new captain donning pirate close found below deck. The lost boys made ready to set sail after being more than Neverland for so long. The ancient ship finally weighed anchor and made its way toward the horizon. There were many arguments among the boys about whether they would make the jolly Roger and honest chip or stay true to its pirate. Roots Wendy had to interject and remind the boys they were bound back to England they sailed until bedtime then at Wendy's instruction flew off leaving the ship to drift aimlessly on the seven seas. Wendy gasped enjoy when she discovered the window was open. Her mother was sitting by the fire asleep. Her knitting hung half finished in her hands her mother's eyes fluttered open. But it was not until nanna barked that she realized she was no longer dreaming. Wendy felt tears of joy come to her is when her parents welcomed them home, Wendy learned to her delight that her mother had never once closed the window, hopefully awaiting their return, Wendy had never been happier to prove Peter wrong. Wendy introduced her parents to the six lost boys and begged her parents to adopt them. George darling began to Stemmer something about the expense before Michael deposited a load of pirate treasure in his lap. Wendy had worked it all out as the commotion died down. Wendy went to the window and found Peter waiting Tinkerbell hovering at his shoulder. She was joined a moment later by MRs darling. Who gasped in delight to see the boy and his ferry Wendy begged him to stay? But once again, he was adamant I don't wanna be a man, I cannot imagine waking. Up discovering a beard on my chin, Wendy giggled. I should quite like to see you in a beard. Peter did not find this amusing. He was just about to leave when MRs darling finally spoke up, perhaps the wise older woman said Wendy can return with you to never land a week of each year in the spring. Despite his misgivings about Wendy's mother. She was a mother after all Peter seemed quite elated by the suggestion before he left, Wendy and treated him one. Last time you won't forget me before spring. Will you Peter? He promised he would not. And then he was gone. The year rolled by slowly Wendy was engrossed in her schoolwork. But even more engrossed by the lost, boys. One by one they forgot land. After a few months, they could no longer fly. And by the time spring rolled around. They made fun of Michael for still believing in fairies Wendy told Michael to not worry about such things and invited him to join her in Neverland when Peter returned Peter did return as he promised. She was ecstatic to reminisce with him about all their old adventures of fighting captain hook when she mentioned this, Peter knit, his eyebrows. In a puzzled look captain who. When she explained he waved it off. I forget them after I kill them. She recovered, I suppose Tinkerbell will be delighted to see me she said with a hint of sarcasm another puzzled look who is tinker bell. Very lives are very short. You see and Peter could not be expected to remember everyone the next year. Peter did not show up Wendy was heartbroken for she could not think of any reasonable excuse. He would have missed her. He was never sick. And he could not have mistaken another window for hers the third year. However, he was back, and it was the last time Wendy ever saw him as a girl. Wendy sat by the fireplace. A piece of knitting hung in her hand a faint gust of wind stirred the back of our neck. She raised her head as she heard a familiar voice come from behind her. Hello, wendy. Hello, peter. He asked whether Michael or John were at home, and she told him they were long gone. Peter. She said falteringly are you expecting me to fly away with you. It is spring, isn't it? Peter seemed unaware so many springs had passed since their last meeting. She told him she had forgotten how to fly she turned to face him. And hated herself for his horrified expression. I grew up a long time ago. Peter fell down on the floor and began to sob Wendy stood and walked over to the door. She could not bring herself to hear this noise any longer as she stepped out into the hall. She heard another voice fully, what are you crying? It was her daughter who had been awakened by Peter nostalgia. Almost made Wendy opened the door to witness another girl become Peter's mother, but she stopped herself her time with the boy was over. She had changed and she was happy to have grown up. But Peter Pan would always remain the same so long as children are innocent and heartless. Most Retailing's of Peter Pan. Choose to linger on the triumphant victory of Peter over hook and his band of cutthroats these versions comfort children and provide the traditional catharsis of good conquering evil, but the original story is far more bittersweet, even though Peter Pan is a real person in the story. He's treated as a person that all children, eventually grow out of like sweets. He can bring delight to a child's life, but grows tiresome if it's all the child is exposed to no other individual in the story is frozen in places him tiger lily, captain hook and even Tinkerbell all pass out of the story before pan as such. He's one of the only literary figures defined by his stasis all children except one grow up. Thank you for listening to tales if you wanna listen to more episodes of tales or other park cast podcasts you can find all of parkas podcasts on apple podcasts, Stitcher, Google, play cast box tune in or your favorite podcast directory. Some listeners have been asking how to help the show if you enjoy the show the best way to do that is to leave a five star review. Join me in two weeks for another dark and surprising. Fairytale tales was created. By max Cutler, it is a production of Cutler media and is part of the park cast network. It is produced by Maxon Ron Cutler sound designed by Ron Shapiro with production assistance by Paul Moller. Additional production assistance by Maggie add Meyer and Carly Madden. Tales is written by Robert team. Stra? I'm Vanessa Richardson. Thanks for listening. Don't forget that hostage debuts on October eighteenth with new episodes released every Thursday search hostage wherever you listen to podcasts. And subscribe now as promised, here's a brief sneak peek of the first episode of hostage on the kidnapping of Patty Hearst. I hope you enjoy it and be sure to tell your friends about it. Patricia Hearst was trying to make sense of art history. She stared down at her textbook trying to ignore her fiance. Steve who studied economics next to her on the sofa? She tried to shake the feeling that something wasn't right between them that. She wasn't happy with her comfortable housewife existence that she didn't have friends at Berkeley that she might not really love him, focus. She thought midterms were coming soon. Steve answered the door before Patricia one him not to last week she'd worried someone might be following her. You never knew it was a strange girl at the door. She was agitated she'd hit a car in the garage into the complex and wanted to borrow the phone angry and disgusted Patricia went to the door. The dumb girl probably hit Patricia N G roadster, she'd give her a piece of her. Two men burst into the house and the girl grabbed Patricia be quiet and nobody'll get hurt the girl pointed an automatic pistol at Patricia 's face before Patricia could scream again, one of the men was straddling her on the floor face pressed against the linoleum. She could hear Steve crying take anything you want. Anything you want? He said Patricia tried to get free. But the man yelled at her to keep her head down and gagged her intruders blindfolded Patricia and dragged or to the door. Steve continued screaming in complete shock. Patricia worry they were stabbing him. She spit out her gag and screamed, bloody murder praying. The neighbors would hear the neighbors heard. But the men hit Patricia in the head and dragged her outside. They threw her in the trunk of a car and drove off. It was approaching nine thirty PM on Monday, February fourth nineteen seventy four and Patricia Campbell. Hearst had just been taken hostage.

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The Matrix

American Jihadi

29:18 min | 9 months ago

The Matrix

"How do you take down a criminal network? That's hidden in the shadows. How do you rescue child abuse victims? Who could be anywhere in the world hunting warhead and new investigative eight of series from? CBC podcasts Norwegian newspaper VG follows journalists and police on global mission to expose the darkest corners of the Internet and what they discover shocks shocks them. Listen to hunting warhead at CBC DOT CA slash hunting warhead. Or wherever you get American Jihadi. Hey guys this is Sammy. Alison managing producer of American Jihadi. If you're liking this podcast I'd like to talk to you about another one. You might enjoy Epstein Devil in the darkness Ah Shocking Investigative Series that reveals for the first time the full story behind the life and death of Jeffrey Epstein. The man who had allegedly abused hundreds of underage each girls while entertaining some of the world's most powerful men. The season finale is live now so listen and bench. The whole story was shocking interviews and expert insights. Listen into the entire season free. Right now apple podcasts. spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of two two thousand seven a video was broadcast on the Al Jazeera News. Network a thin man in his early twenty s sits on the ground in a field somewhere in the east African country of Somalia Himalaya. He's wearing camouflage. And there's a hand grenades strapped to his left front pocket fight. He's looking directly into the camera but his face is wrapped in a green scarf so so that only his eyes and a flash of white skin showing America take into consideration the example of Somalia. The man is the mouthpiece for new Islamic militant group in Somalia called Al Shabaab which means the youth in Arabic after fifteen years of chaos and oppressive rule by the American backed warlords. Your brothers stood up in order to establish peace and justice in this land. The camera cuts dozens of African fighters. AK Forty Sevens and grenade launchers. The video doesn't make clear is why they're spokesman appears to be a white American. The story quickly circulated online. And even you know the American had been careful not to reveal identity and the small southern town of Daphne Alabama. They knew exactly who he was. I came home from work. One day in Varney. He was white as she'd what is it always like mom. You need to watch this the minute we heard the boys we need that it was Sanmar. Now it all makes sense. He's over there fight. He's not coming back and we thought. Oh my God what is going on going on on the man in the video was Omar Hamami he would become one of the. FBI's most wanted terrorists. I would spend years chasing his story. Attract his life Mala Bama where he attended a southern Baptist Church and been his high school class president to the frontlines of a guerrilla war in Africa. And then I heard from Omar himself over time the relationship that developed between us would blur the lines between journalism and friendship and wreck the tidy. Heidi story I told myself about the boundary between good and evil I'm Christopher puzzle. This is American Jihadi episode one. The Matrix I became aware of our mommy in two thousand nine when he showed up a propaganda video. That was put out by Al Shabaab in this video. There's no scarf hiding his face. He looks like a Skinny Che Guevara. His Brown hair is long and much of his face is covered by a young man's first beard insincerity points. Omar speaks directly to the cameras. He's recruiting foreigners like himself to come join Shabaab. Encourage more of your children and more of your your neighbors anyone corner and to send people like him to this would be a great asset leader. He appears to lead Al Shabaab fighters in setting an ambush camping. Omar looks white and his accent is so clearly American you do and yet he is sitting in Somalia with an AK47 surrounded by east African can fighters hanging on his every word that the numbers. They're close two thousand more. I try to his me vehicles as we can and kill as many. You can take care too much so his face cracks into a smile as if he feels self conscious saying these things on camera. The picture cuts away to a shot of the Bush allowed the enemy approaches in the US more story was quickly picked adept media Omar Hamami the US citizen born and bred in the American south. Who is now a leader of a terrorist organization affiliated with Al Qaeda? It's fighting in Somalia. Catherine what have you learned about this guy. Twenty five years old American known Jihadists Turco's as key or the American American and I found his story fascinating. Omar had grown up in a small town in Alabama going to a southern Baptist Church until midway through high school his life had been almost just a cliche of American normalcy. He played soccer little league baseball. Even took the prettiest girl in school to homecoming. And then somehow he'd found his way to Somalia Aulia where he joined up with Al Shabaab Group designated a terrorist organization by the State Department's. He believes that word of data at actually reported from Somalia in two thousand six just a few months before Omar had arrived there at the time I was a TV correspondent for a program called Vanguard on current TV. We were sort of Vice News. Used before vice news existed. We try to report on stories that we thought the rest of the media was missing. We interviewed cartel hitmen. Russian skinheads folks like that. I wanted to do a story about Omar by the time has video started attracting attention. The situation in Somalia had gotten worse than six and a half thousand people have been killed in fighting in Somalia in the last twelve months. Shebab was in a running gun battle with Ethiopian and African Union troops American drones fired missiles at suspected terrorists and suicide bombers. We're beginning to target. The city's just too chaotic and dangerous for me to go back. Security officials implicate Al Shabaab in the assassination of aid workers. `and in a string of bomb attacks talks in Mogadishu. Still I knew I wanted to figure out a way to tell Omar story a young American who had traded his middle class life for life of struggle and one of the the most dangerous parts of the world a guy with something to prove chasing his ideals. Were there was enough of me in there to make me really want to understand the choices he'd made and I know where to reach Omar. I knew that his family was still living in Alabama. So I got on a plane I landed mobile and drove a half hour east daffy a small suburb mobile bay. That calls itself the jubilees city. The streets are lined with massive. Live oaks the kind film directors put movies so that you'll think old south. I found Mars parents place at the end of a cul de sac. The curtains curtains were drawn tight but on the mailbox it said in large white letters schiff economy. I got a quick glimpse of Omar's father Shafique when he looked at me through the window of his front door his glasses and a dark salt and pepper beard. I said that I was a reporter. He told me to go away and he couldn't talk to me before flying down. I'd also reached out to Omar Sister Dean on facebook back in my rental car. I check my phone to see if she didn't back nothing on the highway. Fast and Applebee's and a k mart. I pulled into the hooters because I figured maybe someone there went to high school with Omar. The bartender told me that while he didn't know are well in high school. He did just run into his best friend Bernie at Walmart. The bartender even knew the street he lived on. I'm Bernie Street. There were names on all the mailboxes except for one. I asked him kids playing street hockey if they knew who lived in that house. You mean the Jews. One of the mast- Jews. Yeah the ones with the Star Wars outfits. Do you mean Muslims. Yeah them kid shrug. Whatever Bernie wasn't home? Later that night we managed to connect and he invited me over to dinner with his family only lived with his mother his wife and two kids who've been Thank you cover. Version Bernie was tall and slender with blonde hair. Earn a beard. He and his family are practicing. Muslims Omar converted to Islam during his sophomore year and soon after inspired Bernie to convert as. Well it's Kinda hard for you to like envision the guys terrorists you know if you like lived with the guy and you're like good friends with the guy for so many years you just when you see them. You don't see like the terrier go. Hey this my friend that I haven't seen it a couple years Bernie's mother Sharon had converted to Islam too. When I met her her head was covered with a black job added with tiny flowers? Eh for Sharon. Omar wasn't a terrorist. He was the person who started her on the path to putting her life back together. She told me that before she became Muslim. She hadn't been the greatest smothered Bernie. He saw me drove a lot which is very painful shame. I felt that he didn't have a lot of guidance. He didn't have a lot of supervision and he needed a moment. I wasn't here and there was Mr Mhm. Sharon hadn't even harder time than Bernie understanding. How the machine? Daphne became one of the. FBI's most most wanted terrorists. He's the boy who helped me learn to read. And that's just can't wrap my head around and thinking that he would be a part of hurting is the people I just I just can't I can't fathom that Bernie and I watched the video Omar. The ambush as they entered into. You are ambush opening up with small arms fire. He's the guy that everybody uses women sort of Reiki but I know the Omar Jimenez Gateway Kinda like grew up with in high. School is a kind of a normal dude. You mean kind of like a job. You'll really charismatic. Cool guy named objective is to die smarter so the fact that we got to Martyrs is nothing nothing more than other tearing of itself if you mute the video and don't read subtitles and just kind of like watching movies just like seems like your old friend friendship with a different very close on over the course of the next four months I spent a lot of time with Bernie. We went to high school and the Walmart. Where were they both worked? We even flew to Toronto to see where he and Omar had lived for about a year before moving on to Egypt. Egypt is where they separated Bernie coming back to the US Omar Omar disappearing eventually turning up in Somalia and the long piece about Omar made for current TV. I try to paint a more complicated picture. Sure of him than just the American born terrorist but I was never totally satisfied. I was able to follow Omar's path from Alabama to Canada to Egypt and then to Somalia. Oh Yeah and al-shabaab I couldn't really get my head around though was why hit chosen that path to answer that question or any of the others I still had. I would have needed to get to Omar somehow but not even. US intelligence seemed to be able to find them. It would take another two years for me to get my answer As it turned out I had backwards. I didn't need to find Omar. 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In March of two thousand wasn't twelve. It had been two years since my piece on Omar Hamami had erred. In the meantime my network current TV I decided to stop making documentary features and laid off almost everyone who worked on my show now instead of getting on a plane to go off to a war zone I was supposed to be finding an angle for a story about the upcoming presidential election. Eighty dollars but then at the deal popped up on Youtube Shit Adl said but again it was Omar Hamami. This video was not al-shabaab propaganda. It was titled. An urgent message was fun sitting on the floor alone in front of a black flag with White Arctic script. He looks thin and scared. Remember and they reach on the westbound I recorded in my life may be endangered. The rest of it is an Arabic but the video is a cry for help. Omar Hamami the poster boy for jihad is saying that he thinks his life might endanger. He's worried that people are trying to kill him. And that those people are fellow fighters and Al Shabaab. The story only got stranger from their rumors started floating around online. Domer- had been killed Omar Mother. Deborah even called me for years. His parents refused to speak with me but now she wanted to know if I had any hard information about her son I didn't I spent days combing online. Jihadi forums trying to make heads or tails tales of what actually was going on and then I got an email. I admire your work. That's my producer Brent Renault reading email. I have a copy of an autobiography written by Omar. Hamami should I send it to you. Whoever wrote it didn't sign the email and honestly journalists get a lot of weird emails? I didn't think a whole lot of it but I wrote back and told him to go ahead. And Send Me Autobiography. I asked if it was Dammar. Omar who wrote. Oh good the next morning I got an answer. It was definitely written by him. It's an auto biography. I stared at my phone trying to make sense of what I was reading. Either somebody was messing with me or they had somehow gotten their hands on a book. Omar had actually written or the person emailing me was Omar Hamami back from the dead. I called back Omar's mother Deborah I asked her for details tells about Omar's childhood things only he would know. I didn't tell her why I was asking. She didn't cry. I then asked. Whoever was writing me the emails for Omar Sisters Mental Name Name? Dina's Middle Name is looked via. I asked for the names of his family. Pets growing up. Willie Polo freckles goals. Hobie and Haley. Every answer was right. Omar was alive and even though the person writing the kept insisting assisting that he was just Omar spokesman I was almost positive it was actually Omar himself. I send another email okay. You're the real deal. Wow I was just talking talking to Debra yesterday. She misses Omar with all her heart. Omar says you look like Dina's husband and thinks you're promptly a cool guy. That's why I decided to contact contact you. You'll really break my heart. If you're some kind of closet neo-con over the course of several days and dozens of emails are mostly refused to answer my questions. Well the first first thing you should know is that this conversation is one hundred percent watched by the whole alphabet he meant the CIA the FBI the NSA. I downloaded tour. Oren started using a VPN to block my ip address. But I knew that I had already left a huge digital trail. The second thing is Omar doesn't have any people on the ground anymore. The situation is best described as a power struggle where Omar is caught in the middle clan. Lewis misunderstood and yet still adamant about his opinions. It was the same story he had hinted out in the mysterious video he posted a youtube. It appeared he was endanger because of some disagreement he'd had with the rest of al-shabaab by the way when you get in trouble for having contact with terrorists. It was bizarre to be trading emails. With Omar one moment he would tell me about how his life was endanger. The the next to be complaining about how hard it was to find free books online Amazon is sucking. Everyone's lifeblood and I don't know where in the world I'd find a kindle fire or he'd asked me personal questions you know Mars deceased dog's name. He should probably get to know at least something about you as well. I told him that I lived in in. La With my wife Julie who is a humanitarian aid worker but she was the love of my life but we rarely saw each other. I get the feeling you guys. The nonviolent peace love harmony type. I hope you enjoy grow old fat in toothless together however friendly market be. He got impatient. If I didn't reply immediately really it's helpful when you give me a heads up about when you're next reply will come when you don't. I sometimes sit for like an hour. Staring at the screen L. O. L. Silence silence is not the expected result of such staring. It's all good though. I'll be dozing off in about two hours. toodle toodle I. I tried to convince Omar to let me come to Somalia to interview them on camera. He wasn't buying that plan the only thing that could come view trying to link up with Omar is getting auctioned off by the Shebab and Omar might not come out of that situation too well himself at least for now if we're lives through the next a few months which has a lot to do with getting this bio out. Things could become more flexible again. In the meantime Omar wanted something from me presently. Salihi Omar is dead to the world and has no voice if people see Omar as the good guy in the victim and they know that he's still alive it means having him disappear here after that becomes that much harder. Omar's plan as far as I could make it was for me to be a kind of megaphone. Could shout through to keep himself from being killed. You look at it this way. It'll help your career and for Omar it might save his head. I didn't WanNa be Omar's megaphone and I didn't really understand how the release of his autobiography could save his life but at the same time I didn't WanNa miss the story. He awaits your input. And like I said there's as little time so the sooner the better eventually we settled on a compromise. He would send me the autobiography he'd offered with me but he would also answer a long list of questions I had for him except Omar was done with having our conversation over g mail like I said if it gets in the wrong hands it could be Omar's ars death especially now without encryption. Omar wanted us to go dark from a hotel room. Where I'm staying in New York? I begin in trying to follow his instructions for how to download al-Qaeda's secret encryption program. So what's going on here man Invite a friend of mine. WHO's a TV? He produced a record. What happens the only camera I have with me as an IPAD? My friend starts to shoot. Who are you chatting with No I On the shaky video is a much younger version of myself. Sitting at a desk in a room at a downtown hotel next to me is a half empty bottle of red wine. I have cheech opened on one laptop where I'm talking to Omar. He's insisting that around the encryption program a different laptop that's never been hooked up to the Internet you look exhausted and confused Amar's reached out to me Or somebody claiming to be representing Omar and and my heart is pounding rain. Basically going feel like the police or the FBI will kick down the door at any moment descending here as Omar or claiming to be Omar are is writing and trying to describe to me how to do encryption on my computer and going on and on and on and on and on do you think it's really him. Yeah definitely makes you say that. I've asked him all kinds of questions that he does. He does reference that my documentary at most of right right. No kidding he saw your doc doc guys a fam- that's scary. How did he see you? Guys clearly got access. Do you feel conflicted as an American now. mm-hmm because my job is to look at the world is good versus evil. Look at motivation and I believe that this is what I wanNA know. L. Never trying to find out with him is what went what went wrong. How did you end up in a situation where smart kid and I still believe incredibly smart and you go? Do you really believe all this stuff. Because part of me I think he does. I don't know what's going on. That's what I need to find out but before you can do that. You've got to jump through some technical hurdles. I've got to basically try to get off the grid as much as possible and block. I pee addresses start using encrypted code start storing things on flash drives. He's been a good teacher. So far I'll be plugged into the The underground network in no time. It takes all night but suddenly my computer screen goes black. The answer what I got myself into a green door appears on the screen the logo AK47 with a key on an English it says Mujahedeen secrets. I type in a code code. The key is giving me. The screen is flooded with lines of Arabic script. I know what I want from waiting waited for this guy for so long I finally got it. I'm like fun and then I'm in. Omar greets me with a reference for the Matrix. Well Mr Anderson Smith is waiting. How does it feel to be chatting with one of the world's most wanted men oh it's totally surreal? But at the same time I feel like I'm talking to a friend of mine that's the weirdest feeling about it. The American Jihadi is produced by endeavor audio and to to to productions it's hosted and executive produced by me Kristof puzzle of Pindar media our producer. Julia Tarot Zach Hirsch with help from policy cut him. Osu and Ashley Click. Our senior producer is Brenton Renault. Our editor is Keith. Romer are managing producer Samantha Alison. This episode was mixed by Hannah's ground with sound design by Hannah's Brown Zach Hirsch Business Affairs Shoshana Jakov Doc. Above fact checking by Laura Boden executive producers include. Adam Levine Josh Gomersall and Adam Harrison of two productions Dave Eastern of Endeavor Audio and Jonathan in Hirsch of neon Halloween special. Thanks to Erin Kelly and everyone else commander show possible. If you're liking Americans Jihadi you should check out a new podcast from recode called reset. It's hosted by Ariel dozen Ross former science reporter for the verge and the first climate change correspondent on American nightly news. Reese explores the unexpected ways. Technology is changing humanity humanity from authors using ai to write to bio hackers altering their own DNA. These days every story is a tech story and reset explores why the first episode sodas out now subscribe to reset for free on apple. PODCASTS stitcher or your favorite podcast APP.

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Hips Don't Lanai

Cinemavino

35:34 min | 11 months ago

Hips Don't Lanai

"Welcome back cinema. Vino We've got a little something special for you. masonic delicious family thoughts. Jalapeno poppers wait Cheddar peppers so yeah because I'm going out of town the next week we're going to have a little highlight reel for you and it's going to be something special going to be better than the average. Sitcom clip show where the golden girls sit out to eat cheesecake and talk about like actually that sounds pretty cool but I'm actually terrified. I don't know what happened in a lot of these podcasts. Somebody's GONNA be revelations yeah. I'm guessing just going to be a lot of me slurring the Laura Gibberish. There's GonNa be some good gibberish slurred last week where I was completely sober so we know we have. We just don't know it's going to be alarming but it's going to be getting here. Taylor Travis I. We're we're one of these go back to the old days and Travis his last name was redacted and those are just just our young pug yeah just barely making it in the world. Yeah now start at the bottom who were still they were still at the bottom. We should do a crossover with another podcast. That was my head yeah. I think we should Joe Rogan wish team up. Kevin Smith I was thinking just local paulie shore. Oh Yes podcast. It's like in your area like single melts this on Porno. You WanNa do a crossover episode. Yeah you guessed parents just to see where it goes the single life way to live click to see local podcasts in your area that Hobo chilly arena talking about our wine before or after We'll we'll break that in somewhere. I was going to go ahead and get us a bus with our first clip. The first one we're going to listen to the creation of Mitch Scoggins for those who are coming in a few podcast lake. We spontaneously created a High School Detectives I oh I think you'll find the clip. TRAUMAS coined the name but with the rest of US help flesh out the character well. We'll see about that roll that beautiful bean footage but yeah travis has a tendency when he doesn't know the answer to something to make up gibberish as a placeholder whether that's a name or whatever Sir we're struggling to come up with the name of Jerry. O'CONNELL's character can't hardly wait and Travis does not know the name of the character amd blurts out the name. MIT- scoggins this. This is going to get me meth. That's where the legend was was born so we're. GonNa listen to that right now. We're GONNA come back. We're GONNA talk about it. We're going to do a dissection of gibberish so enjoy the ride. Did you know what his name was Joe McConnell. Oh they're Mitch Scoggins Nazis that copyright that name Yeah we need to develop carrying scoggins always actual name todd we know it. I mean so I'm GonNa ask you. Do you know or am I know A. I know Yes trip McNealy. That's it. It's served tipsy mixed bag trip something. I don't know if it was like but it was as a what a weird name. I'm taking back your that's true question. That was not usually the piece of paper is it was either moving that you're interested. What are you drinking you get more. We'll just get paid paid for drinking wine and talking shit about movies and then going off on this wild engines hypnotized by the card movie reviews dot. US US listened subscribe and rate on Apple podcasts or spotify also be sure to follow us on twitter twitter handle title redacted. I don't know where it's coming from at movie reviews. US Oh for quitter and facebook grams at Todd Lawford movies yeah the answer grams pretty sexy by the way that I mean tight jeans so ribbons Rayson and I mean again the water's is there so I say put it in drive and see what happens. Mitch Scoggins schooled you go. You don't play his burst. I'll do MHM cheese hop and streams rub in sticks out so have listened to that one thing I would like to explain for listeners out there at the end hop and streams rub and sticks. There's another Travis Malapropism that he from I believe that's Disney's Robin Hood Little Daughter Robin Hood walking through the four streams aerobics and having such a good the actual it is now I don't. I don't know what the actual words were outside reminisce. This no good travis heard that as half of streams and rivers sticks well. I didn't hear does that but I was singing hanging out loud. One time didn't know the words just went with with that in realize how erotic it sounded Thomas Dix Oh us we have fleshed out the scope and character bill more. Pardon me if we just listened. Cut that clip. I think I came up with the name you you guys really complicated and then I said high school detective I created the name and the concept. What have you got well okay. Is it skogen. It's been Cogan. 's Okay Yeah I was here and I didn't know if we changed the name trying to sue might have said that I I mean but we with dirty work of like creating this and taught has written numerous scripts. Were trying to get doing all of that. We have a clip of your I will put the copy of the script. I wrote on our page. Yeah Upload this and we have tech streams. Yes those are those are specifically fucking redacted. You have my permission source of any extreme so yeah I had came up with a couple of one of which were midst. Gauguin's finds out that the High School Spelling Bee is rigged and that one is titled use it in a sentence of guilty and I'm working on one where the high school the pig stolen from the yeah. FFA building price as pig pig malls and only Mitch Scoggins can unravel the crime. It turns out. It's Vegan cult in high school. So there's a whole lot there could be a whole shelf. Gauguin's mysteries to be a little bit more dirty where they have to take like sex education and then somebody's pokes folks holds on all the prophylactics as they gave out sex ed you WANNA wave of teen pregnancy. Yes discussions has a pregnancy issue scared with his new girlfriend. How does he have always getting laid. That's true I mean his his heart and soul is to solving mysteries and like the second he gets laid like series. It's like cybill. Shepherd and Bruce Willis moving at the series is done exactly but yeah so if you hear any references Francisco bins and our podcast. That's that's where we're going with that. You know what exactly the character. Mitch Scoggins is not doing just name alone definitely not crushing post us. I don't know we'll see that yeah. It's you get you into season five or six. You gotTa have a love. Interest Man Love Triangle. Maybe know who attract triangle. He's got two girls and trigonometry class both of whom are after him there after his high pot new says as it were much about math so you're. GonNa have to meet with a dirty jokes there. He's working all angles. Eh Jason. Do it live for the next clip. We have done assortment of sponsorships fake sponsorships throughout our show well. They're only fake right now but we've I mean we're still looking for sponsorships will it. There's no doubt I was thinking of Hollywood. I was going to go in there and they were like that. biggins gins was that was that in children biggins yeah. This is my copy of big Al Copied biggins. Why yes you may so we're going to take a look at some of the sponsorships that we have enjoyed over our time and one more travis if I wanted a delicious late night snack that was easy to cook. What would I go for Cook. I don't know your fault but I enjoy Arby's from time time. What if I wanted to microwave something oh I would add a little water some easy Mac and cheese. Maybe cut up up some winners and then just have you would dabbagh do time. My night is set cinema. Tena is brought to you by easy Mac and cheese and cut up wieners okay. It's been a good one anyway HASHTAG MARINA BOB IT so off all right now. I'm not hungry. The starving honestly schick razor so I can like trim trim my plants into a pleasing shape so they'll be accepted by society. I thought we were Gillette family here. We're Gillette family but no no for. Are you downstairs. y'All need a shack. Ads are technically fine for your downstairs. I'm also going to get so if I say we're we're one hundred percent sponsored by it right in theory is I could use about forty to sixty bars of Irish spring. Now that is a good soap use that to lather up and you just feel fresh like you dip yourself in an Irish waterfall. Yep Travis redacted is brought to you by lever two thousand honestly like I get me a bar of lever two thousand or Irish spring hop in a pool fully. SCHMITT's gay got some weird you who we now go live to me in this podcast again with ads sponsored ad and I should've mentioned of soap because that's got one quarter moisturizing cream. We'll wait so do you use bars of soap or you a joe man- with a ground up wait a minute wait a minute. You're an old spice man aren't you. no actually do use the Irish spring menti refreshing embar form yeah I do. I work up a good lather on my wash cloth and so we never really ran with the idea of grain weenies overlook achieve greater into easy Mac and cheese ooh razor-thin Years Penn wieners doesn't microwave as well. Yeah I guess so. Do you cut him before or after the microwave you know I think I usually do after relay component. You go well yeah but if you caught him you could like cut them smaller before like the butterfly and then they'd come I saw an ad on Youtube for some kind of contraption you can load wieners in toodle make shapes out of them so yeah. We're shape yeah you you can do like triangles. Rama's everything else yeah you just by that. Plato set start checking hotdogs through their elected trapezoid. Weiner doesn't make them taste different though now but you get some clam shell Mac and cheese. Oh yeah you trim up enough. You get a little surprise in a shell. Give like one snakes. Its way in there. You don't even know what's going. Invite a little surprise. Are we at. Shell or a noodle family. Now see or elbow family. I go I go elbow just the classic Mac and cheese and easy MAC and cheese now a twist. I is fun on occasion and I like me a shell as well that that can be fun as well yeah for my money. Nothing's better than just old classic elbow. I like Mac and cheese like a lot my basketball how I play basketball this law elbows all older engines just violent violent lots of butter sweet butter in fact. I found if you're making your kraft Mac and cheese home. It tells you to put a certain amount of butter margarine in there and then a certain amount of milk. I was a little less Taylor dropping bombs. Okay I use unless milk and more butter. That's interesting or you do this little bitty package. You get you look. I mean for the easy Mac and cheese. Oh I eat entire box. Okay Mac and cheese like really need at least two packages minimum to pay like I do do people eat. A single serving of MAC led one of those little cups yeah if they if they do I don't care another. Let's like eating that's great and one of those little canister water used to the grocery store for well for twenty cents or whatever it's like no one drinks or one of those yeah great for those and just run through the wall a fucking. Cooley man a person that can eat one pringle and then just walk away yeah maniac yeah. That's a serial killer. Ted Bundy Ted Bundy. You would eat wants our green pringle and then one just go on a rampage. That's how they knew he'd been some whereas they saw almost full kanter pringles. Oh Oh he's been here. He popped in stopped for the next clip. I thought we might revisit the feud the brief you that Travis head over who deserved academy award more Dabney Coleman Danny trae who travis briefly leaving podcast. I don't know if I remember this. I don't know I definitely know this'll be involved. This'll be a nice little refresh so check it out twenty five year old unit. Krahn from transformers movie made a little film called Assistant. Yes shit made citizen. Kane entrance foyer quite the transformers the movie transformers and the Moon No Shiloh Goddamn I dam booth in this thing just Peter Guardian Colon and hot rod and Bumblebee Peter Goddamn Gabriel and also it was his last movie the Peter Gabriel could ask what's his name Citizen Kane Walter Matthau as you say fuck nuggets. Athen and Cheese Orson Welles Orson Welles last movie transformers has to be a I if somebody who's confuse Hughes Walter Matthau and Orson Welles. This has to be spoken word just spitting out what was in my head until I got the word. I want good wine. Walter Anyway so I are he ahead. Oh I'll push any trouble in the mud. Give Dabney Coleman and Oscar all right you tell him in the money and then see how Abed goes for you. Don't podcast my headphones. Travis has walked away wine. Man Travis has left the conversation but I stand by what I said they'll give Dabney Coleman and Oscar and now that would be a battle royale well. That'd be a fight to that. That will be has. He's kind of far away. He's gone. I think he actually did leave that that but that would be mustache versus mustache that would be paddled mustaches. That will be good. We're going to take a brief break in me from getting into things. I think he's getting into my sock drawer now. He's not wearing any shoes. He answered the door Travis Bud what is entered the conversation in new your software enter wait what he meant to say. Tottenham sorry that was obviously a very passionate subject. Oh how do you feel you still ninety. Three Ho deserves the academy award over Dabney Coleman Yeah but more I would really like you to tell any trio. He doesn't deserve or trying to shove shove him at the moment. I would like to see you till that poor man. This is characters name. Connor some rose. Oh Gosh something fountain to yeah. He did deserve to die in that movie and hope it Burns in hell but that was a very animated conversation that was good. It was very delicious wine. Yeah it had achieved its effect. It leads intended effect. WE'RE GONNA go back to a more musical. Conversations about boogie Unites Research for the next episode. What is the song in Boogie Nights. That dirt digger is trying to sing with John C Reilly Oh. I know you want okay. NPR Man. I'm trying to like gives you a safe. Oh I was thinking it was tach. It was in the transformers. The movie animated eighties. It wasn't legitimate question because I didn't know but this is even better. You guys knew exactly what us can we sign the fuck off star. Stone Bright Shining Star might refresh the audience about your idea for a Halloween doing costume involving Philip Seymour Hoffman holding a boom mic yeah yeah from boogie nights just holding boom mic above his head where it runs med phones. It's sleeveless little stripe number shirt whatever she I don't know what he's wearing from the bottom down but just staring at everybody's what he's Dick and just like. I don't know what he's doing with his mouth but he's just like he's acting like he's very hungry yeah or he you sees a glass of water and he's been in Saharan desert. He's yes that'd be a great costume Mahabir boom. Mike would be way too heavy to around all night but especially I mean it would be in care to their if you start shaking like you better get and I put the picture of Philip Seymour Hoffman from the movie at the end of the book and then so they get to see it and then they get to see me. That's the boot my aching I do and it's all you how long is long enough. They say Oh yeah John Ralph you partner ex other idea for how we discussed that we have that'd be good one because I've had auto-pay. I still want to dress up as Chris Farley the bus driver and have tailored dressed up as a penguin. Follow me around and your but how far does that for me. What do I do Jerky off. I mean like how many times well I needed to get penguin suit. ooh honestly if you just want to cut to the chase. I'm GONNA say that. Maybe we'll give it away. He didn't say hard. No might end up a hard. Yes but Jammie treats you get that way. See how faster bag fills also we have excellent harmony on that saying that we did. I mean that's a great song to feel the heat but also you got the touch what what a great eighty song what a great thread right there of transformers animated movie and Boogie Nights. Let's better degrees away than Kevin Bacon Gallon that ties Walter Matthau on there too. That's great so yeah for our next clip a lack of ability to flesh out ideas into even better ideas so we have some ideas I with this conversation for the Bridget Jones Franchise so yes check these out movie. It's excite yeah. I remember Bridget Jones Baby and then g Jones goes to wire our many ones. They've done if you're trying to say that. She's trying to do an earnest ernest thing. I'm into jail. I think we just discovered something Jones Chris. I'm not saying that we need to make some phone calls but bod- if we can if we can do Bridget Jones you know go to Africa is like Pretty Jones's covers glory orioles have your on who well okay but the classics getting this vehicle back in the way like I I liked the holiday to it's the Christmas movie. Honestly I don't see the problem but Elsa Renee Zellweger she needs to get electric powers bus out of jail and maybe find a witch and the graveyard that's or whatever the hell was mother's milk. Yeah Booger Lips. How about a bumper sandwich and one thing I've noticed is ideas. Come Forth Travis. Let's stick dynamite. Doom blows down for bridget goes to school and all those you know bridget needs a kidney. Whatever whatever we need to do to make that Happen Bridge Bridget Fonda Glory all I mean that movie can be made. It's just going to be you would not watch it. Hey Look I listen to know who's producing it under the quality of the film magazine Robert Rodriguez. You are watching what was that. Mr Darcy takes low from the mouth. It's pride and prejudice reference. That's Jane austen referenced Bridget Jones. Isn't it like Modern Day pride and prejudice no. It's like a somewhat takeoff. I remember there's something like what's his character's name in it. I know the actor played Mr Darcy Cohen Prefer Yeah and the I played but I don't remember what his character's name was. It's been a long time since I've seen that that was that was a difficult time that that ninety minutes to get through that was difficult. Wait Pride and prejudice or Bridgestone Bridget Jones is tough it was it was British ships yeah and so we have one last small clip and then we'll go to a special surprise for Travis Jesus but red check out really quick Taylor's Jon levitz impression. Oh well you shot up uh-huh good. That was pretty spot on. He is an American icon. I I heard again through these fresh new year's still fucking. That's one thing I've been trying to make Jon Lovitz every aspect they and the preacher from letterkenny yeah. That's true be out. I'll tell you what I still miss. John loves though we need. He needs to revive the critic real real bad yes. I'm sure he could use the Bay Jack. Wasn't he. Also one of the Villains in Dick Tracy he was like Raphael. Maybe ooh he's in three Amigos which will be screening next week. s that's what I thought were originally doing tonight brought over my Sombrero Bikila talking turtle and seeing Bush up Pants Schick for a special official surprise. I'M GONNA play this for traffic. Go in blind on this woman see see what Travis thinks so here. We know how to start the thing. Okay okay so rather than say. I can't say good morning or good. Neither welcome to our first episode. Welcome to our first episode. My name is Todd Wofford. This travis bud say hello. Are we a using last names. Yeah you want to use your mind boggling and so yeah we're going to do we'll podcast where we drink wine talk about movies and Nerdy ship that goes with the movies. That's kind of our our wheelhouse. Our area agreed thing that draws us together makes us one. It's it's tough to watch good. People get wasted. It's tough to watch account but movie or any movie. That's based on other source material where you get the feeling that they don't really grasp what they're basing it on. Yeah you know it's like you know you watch like Manna Steel and Batman v Superman. It's like do do these people. Have they read supermac before Zach Snyder had read some and he did defend him. He did three hundred which was great. ooh I mean they tried to equal which we middling success. I don't know but he at least he had his heart in the right place but just it's execution left me wanting her but that was our very first never aired episode. Kosovo that we recorded that was our pilot ninety six minutes long and I would say superior to the format of today's three person team. I'm right here. I know why said question is how many how much did you drink during that one hour and a half that was recorded on October first of last year. Only that was damn near a year ago. We haven't been doing this. A year feels longer in Buh Green. We're we're finding our way. I didn't didn't know you know what to do with myself. In our Veterans Indiana were were polished. lots of experience is like A. Swiss watch a long way and still trying to get that crafts craft single money but you know still trying to get that soap Armani probably. WD money to get that Oh broad money we get together W. B. And I thought you stopped short of saying. WD Forty which is also a product you gotta squeaky hinge on the door. What else do you do exactly so. Basically we got craft. 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That's your new your wife listening to these enjoy that conversation which poops in jeans is going to be an alternate title for this. If I was in Hopkins terms and Reuben State Motto Yeah Forget About Turnaround Bathroom tagline yeah having such a good time but yeah it's been other substantive Vino and we thank you for coming along in our little clip show like again as I golden girls with the cheesecake and just reminisce about the time that blanche and Sophia fought over the same man spoiler alert Sofia one but yeah if you like him you can always go back and listen to the full episode because these are just little snippets the bits we can get a little gnarly. This is like Sam's Club with they. Give you the wieners on the toothpicks you. If you want more Weiner you got about forty pack. Nothing between we gotta get a powder wieners like what's to stop me from just bring my toothpicks from home and that is that a loophole. We're GONNA toothpick everything. No I'm just GONNA. 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Archive Episode 52: Paying the Price

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29:41 min | 1 year ago

Archive Episode 52: Paying the Price

"I'm and this is the skull tragedy networks, no jargon each week. We discussing American public policy problem with one of the nation's top researchers target last week. Elizabeth Warren made a big announcement. She unveiled a massive new education proposal, a one point two five trillion dollar plan to cancel most of America's student loan debt, and eliminate tuition at every public college. And that got us back to thinking about one of our favorite interviews from our archives. An interview I did with professor Sara goldrick, rob. She makes the point that student debt. It's actually just one part of a much bigger problem of college affordability and tells us what can be done to increase the number of people who not only go to college, but make it all the way through to graduation get a degree that they want and then and job Siragusa grab is a professor of higher education policy and sociology temple university. And. He's found her of the hope center for college community and Justice in Philadelphia as well as the Wisconsin hope lab, she's also author of book paying the price college costs financial aid. And the betrayal of the American dream full disclosure. I hope they're a little bit when she was editing that book, so I'm particularly fond of it. Here's our conversation. Sara. Thanks so much for coming on. No jargon. Thanks so much for having Sarah. Why did you choose to devote your career to studying this issue? I think quite honestly that the reason that I studied this question of who gets to go to college because the question of education was so important in my own family. My grandfather went to college on the first GI Bill, and he learned a lot. He went to five or six colleges, actually. But eventually he got a college degree and in its degree that he he wouldn't have received. If it wasn't for the GI Bill because his family didn't have much money. And when was that with the GI Bill so that was in? I believe that was in nineteen forty five when he was in school, and it took him a while like I said, but one of the best outcomes of him getting a college degree is that it made him a viable suitor for my grandmother who had gone to northwestern and. And her family had a long history of getting an education, his family did not in the fact that he got his degree helped to bring them together. So we see this in the returns to the education literature. We see that college degrees can bring all sorts of benefits that can bring economic benefits, and it can also bring social benefits and one of the things that it does is it provides people with access to social networks and other walks of life, and it did this for my grandfather. And it's really transformed our family, we've been all raised to value education to value the importance of reading and learning and going to school, and I went to college as did my parents, and I noticed that it was expensive. You know, we weren't from a family that had very little money. In fact, we were very solidly middle class that even I was having trouble paying for school and fast forward when I became a professor became really interested in this question of. Who gets to go, and frankly, how much the price is making a difference for them will who does get to go. And I guess I want to back up to the sort of supposition, which is that. So the United States spends many many millions maybe even billions of dollars on higher education, including financial aid and just start out with the sort of myth that if you were card and qualify for aid. You can go to college. Yeah. Well, you know, our financial aid system was built on stories like the one I just told it was built on the idea that the policymakers went to college they saw value in it, and they recognized that some people wouldn't be able to afford to go if they could pay for it. So they created a system in which the people who quote unquote, need money are given resources. So the college becomes the Ford -able for them. And they built the system. In which the money was supposed to be placed there by the federal government, and by states, and then given out to the people who really needed the funds and their price would become as I said Ford -able, and that happened that system really started in the mid nineteen sixties and fast Ford, and we're at a time where we still tell ourselves the story that if you work hard, and you need money for college you will receive it you will go to college, and you will complete degrees. But over the course of the last fifty years the system broke end. So when you need money for college now because you did work hard, and you got ready to go to school, the money really, isn't there for you? There is some financial aid available. But at best it is some it is a partial amount of what's actually needed. And you know, it really does not. Cover what students actually need for college. It doesn't come anywhere close to meeting their needs. So when the Pell grant, which is the major program that the federal government created based on those stories when the Pell grant was created it was supposed to cover a hundred percent of the cost of going to a public university. And it never really did that it covered at most ninety percent. But today covers barely third yet. We're still telling ourselves the same old story that if you work hard, and you wanna go to college, and you need money things will be okay. And it will work out. I think the way you study this questions a lot different from the way that the media often covers it in the media. We hear a lot about the student debt crisis. But are there parts of the problems with college financing that we miss by focusing on student debt? There are so many things that we missed by focusing on student debt, and I'll describe those in a second. But I. To say that I am glad about one part of the student debt crisis in terms of the narrative, which is that it's got people talking. So on the one hand, I am thrilled that the people who've been put in these very painful positions of having to repay a lot of money just because they wanted to go to college. I'm so glad that they're speaking out. And they're saying there's a problem here that we need to fix. However student debt is not the problem. It's not the policy problem in. It is not frankly, the enemy borrowing money to go to school if you can afford to repay later is not a bad way to do things, especially if what you're doing is. You're buying your way into a college that offers you something additional maybe it's not the bare minimum. But maybe you want some sort of special program, barring some money, if you think you can repay later is not the enemy. It's not the problem. So what is the problem? Yeah. The problem is borrowing money to pay for college because you have absolutely no choice about going to college. If you don't borrow it's being pushed into borrowing, and it's about people borrowing who frankly have pretty low prospects of actually graduated in other words, it's about the risk involved. In having to borrow for college. When you have no guarantee that you will be able to complete your degree, and those people those are the ones who are defaulting today. I wanna come to this question of well, what is what is actually going wrong in the financing of college at our at our public colleges and universities where so many students go and tell me a little bit about your specific research. What was the Wisconsin scholars onto toodle study? Well, this was an effort to essentially find out how well a financial aid system was working and our particular angle on. It was a study of a very generous very uncommon private scholarship program. There was a couple who was from Wisconsin who decided that they wanted to help make sure that the young people of Wisconsin could afford to go to school. So they created a program back into. Thousand eight that was the year that the program opened called the fund for Wisconsin scholars and this program provided some generous financial aid three grants, not loans to students around the state who came from low income families and who enrolled in the Wisconsin public system, which includes two year and four year institutions all around the state of Wisconsin. And we my research team. And I we signed on to become the evaluators of this program to try to understand how it would change the odds that these students would complete degrees. Tell me about one of the students who was in the the scholars program. Well, I'll tell you a little 'bout khloe Johnson khloe was a young woman who is originally from a small town in Wisconsin. There are lots of small towns all over the state and she came from. Small town that really grew up around a paper mill and that paper mill closed, and so the town wasn't doing so well, and she decided that she would move away a couple hours away to attend technical college. And what she wanted to do with the technical college. Was she wanted to become a veterinarian in the reason that khloe wanted to become a veterinarian is that as a child she had grownup riding horses, and she really enjoyed it. And she wanted to learn how to care for horses. So she decided to go and pursue education trying to do this. And she was nervous about it. She was nervous for many reasons. One of which is that her her parents had gone to college, and she wasn't ever sure that she was going to go, and so they didn't have savings. They didn't have a lot of money to put away for savings in the first place. So she decided in a very modest way that she would attempt technical college, and she would pursue at least initially a veterinarian assistance program. And so off she went. To the technical college. And that's where I met her for the first time in the fall of two thousand eight and how things go for her. Well, they didn't go as planned, you know, she showed up college. She hadn't yet heard about the fund for Wisconsin, scholars grant, she was given a Pell grant, which a lot of people are familiar with its the major federal program and her family didn't qualify for too much other aid and her cost of attending college. After all of that financial aid, the price that she was left with was, you know, well beyond her family's reach. It was well over ten thousand dollars a year, and they didn't have that kind of money. Her parents were recently, divorced and so- khloe started try to make adjustments and like so many Americans she took on a job, but you couldn't get enough hours at her part time job or single job to cover financial need. So she took a second job sickly found herself trying to go back and forth in and out of. Classes and in and out of jobs at PetSmart, and Kohl's which is the department store. Driving around getting home at midnight after work in two jobs and go into class getting very little sleep go into class again in the morning and finding yourself doing what I think a lot of people will recognize something called the head. Bob. Ouch. Yeah. And she knows something's going wrong. And she's trying desperately to figure out how to fix it. She tries to take out a student loan. So that she can work less loans. Don't come through that quickly. So the end of the semester comes she hasn't gotten student loan. She's still working all these jobs, and our grades are terrible. And reveal in the book the full extent of the story. But suffice it to say she never got that grant from the fund was Constance collars it didn't arrive in time to help her. And she never got that degree. He's khloe story exceptional. Not in the least. There are tons and tons of people like Chloe about half of all students who start college in the United States don't finish. And we know that they need help. And we give them a little bit of financial help not enough to really make sure they survive, and they drop out your after year, many times these days ending up in debt with no degree, one of the things that you do in your book, Sarah is look at each of the different pressures that lay on these students who are trying to make it through college. And like you to kind of look at each one in turn. So maybe you could talk first about. Out the impact of the impact of family responsibilities. 'cause I think when when we think without knowledge when I think without knowledge about people go into just, oh, well, they're going to college, and they don't have responsibilities to their families. There's responsibilities are primarily to themselves. Yeah. Or they think that were they think about people who are going to college who are parents and one in four undergraduates today has a child which really surprises. I think a lot of people, but the students in my study they didn't have children of their own. They were Sheldon. Let's be honest. They were eighteen years old when they started college, they're very very young. And so they didn't mainly have kids of their own, but they did have family responsibilities, and those family responsibilities often came from the fact that they grew up in families with very little money while middle class or upper middle class families like. To help their kids feel like kids and buy things for them and give them things in families that are working class. The whole family has to pitch in to make ends me. And this happens from time that a person's very young they start helping out in. That's how they think of it. My mom and dad helped me, and I helped them well when these young people grow up and go to college they continue to help their families, and it's a matter of survival, and frankly, it's also a matter of doing the right thing. So while the financial aid system makes a very strong assertion that the family is expected to give you money for college. You the student? In fact, we watched students giving their families money, and if they didn't I would offer if they didn't I think that their families would not be nearly as able to support their own college ambitions. They would probably be dropping out. Eh even larger numbers what about jobs? Well, again, we have been working our way through college in this country for very long time. I worked my way through college. I was a waitress I worked forty hours a week not to pay the tuition, but to pay the other costs of going to college and people really believe in this. And today's students believe in it to think there's a public perception out there. The today's students are lazy that they don't wanna work. That's not true all the evidence that they do want to work they want to work, but they're having trouble working and succeeding in college. And one of the big issues is honestly that work has in many ways disappeared even for today's college students so employers today don't wanna pay for benefits. So they don't offer as many full-time jobs. They offer per time jobs with very limited hours. And it's so expensive to go to college. Now that simply working a part time job at minimum wage does not often. Cover your need. So you end up taking onto jobs or you end up working on different shifts. So we watch students who were working the graveyard shift working between two AM and eight AM because it pays more on an hourly basis problem is of course, when they have to go to class in the morning they're exhausted. Typically, you hear about the percentage of people who are working while in college. If they're not working we often make the assumption. Well, they're lazy or they don't wanna work or they don't understand that they should work. We rarely it knowledge that there are college students who are underemployed meaning they're looking for work, and they can't find a job. So that's a serious issue. And it is an issue that the work study program. The federal work study program was also supposed to address the federal work study program is supposed to be the thing where you get a job and you get a job on campus. So that you don't have to go so far away and do a commute. So that you can work the kind. To commute the khloe did that ended up contributing to her expenses for gas and car maintenance. The problem is the work study program is dramatically underfunded and badly. Allocated told me about how it's badly allocated. Yes, so badly allocated so a good allocation of federal work study would mean that the schools that have the most financial need among their students. Get the most federal work study money. It would mean that therefore when there are more Pell recipients, there's more federal work study money that is not the case oddly enough as my colleague king Alexander, who's the president at Louisiana state university has pointed out the federal work study money flows in the direction of Plymouth rock. The closer is school is diploma thr-. Look the more money. They get from the federal work study program it flows towards being game bridge. Exactly. And the reason of the folks near you get more money as this program is distributed based on age of institutions. And it hasn't been revised since the early nineteen eighties. That is absolutely shocking. Yes, it is. It's completely stunning. And I'll tell you what it really means. So in the book, I show you changes over time in particularly in the last fifteen years or so in the percentage of Pell recipients, getting different types of support. And if we just zoom in and we say, okay Pell recipients in the public sector public colleges and universities. What percent of them are getting any support from the federal work study program. It is an incredible ten percent. Just one in ten of these students who we know have financial need who we know we're going to need to work only one in ten or getting any money from the federal work study program. There is more money going to private institutions than there is going to public, for example in the city of Milwaukee. There is more money going to Marquette university, a private institution with fewer Pilger's instan-. There is going. Going to Milwaukee area technical college or the university of Wisconsin, Milwaukee, let's talk about mock easy. So walkie is obviously the largest city in Wisconsin. And it's also home. It's also the most diverse region of the state of Wisconsin in terms of raise. And also it has a lot of people who are poor. How did students in Milwaukee do in your study? Well, not well and in the chapter of the book that's about Milwaukee. I call it the city of broken dreams. Because literally that's what we saw breaking their. You know, we call it diverse. It's sort of a kind word, but let's be honest. Milwaukee is one of the most segregated and impoverished cities in the nation, and like so many urban areas, it has so few of the resources that the people who grew up there need, and so what happens to students in Milwaukee is to two things sort of. It's kind of a perfect storm. They grow up. In a system that school system that is incredibly impoverished, the Milwaukee public schools, and they go through all sorts of struggles in those schools, and the students who manage to make it out of those institutions who come out in graduate from high school and still manage to have the hopes of going to college they get out and they face similarly, underfunded public universities and public colleges the city of Milwaukee public universities and public colleges get less money on a per student basis, then the rest of the state, so they come out in the actually end up facing higher prices than their peers who live elsewhere, even though they came out of poor neighborhoods with fewer opportunities and worst school system. And then they go into these institutions, and these institutions are able to offer them less support and their families are able to offer them less support. They pay more and get less. They pay a lot more, and they get a lot less, and though it isn't. Surprising that one of the biggest areas of research at the Wisconsin hope lab that began with this book are the sorts of issues that students in Milwaukee are facing in droves issues like homelessness, tell me about homelessness and hunger at colleges, and how that weaves with sort of your your larger narrative here, which is that the problems that we face. We talk about a lot of problems on the jargon podcast. But the problems that we face with people being able to afford the high cost of college are not a problem there a crisis. Yeah. That's right. And I do feel very strongly that it is a crisis. And the reason that I know that it's a crisis is because every day I'm having the opportunity to sit across from young people who are trying to go to college and don't have enough food to eat. And you know, I'm like, so many others who didn't know about this. And in some ways, I missed a fide that I didn't know about this because I like, so many others read the newspaper, and we. I know the child poverty rates are rising in this country. And we know that the number of people who are going to school k twelve school going to high school who are homeless is rising. We know that. So there's a growing number of people who are going to college despite facing enormous odds things like not having a home. There's also a growing number of people who are going to college. And who were basically, okay, they were in you know, what they would consider middle class families. Maybe just barely hanging on. But when faced with the price of college that is so much beyond what they can afford. They find themselves going without basic necessities like food or roof over their heads. So that they can do things like pay their tuition, and we started to find these things in the course of the study that I describe in the book, and frankly, I felt like we had to follow up on this because it did in my view change this from a problem of maybe a few people who can't pay bills for textbooks to. A veritable crisis. Where you had people who were told that the American dream could only be realized if they went to college and who went to college and in doing so found themselves sometimes sleeping on the sidewalk outside of classroom. What can be done about the problem of hunger and homelessness in college? It there are so many things that we can do. Right. So I mean, here's let's just take a really basic thing. We know that in K twelve education the free and reduced price lunch program. The national school lunch program is super important. We know that if children come to school, and they have not eaten they have not had milk in the morning. They're not gonna learn. And so we give out milk, and we feed them lunch, and we do this through high school, and then they graduate and the next day they show up at community college. And there's no lunch. We have to pay for it. They don't have the money. It's it's as if there's a sort of magical marker in our mind. Finds that there's some different some some difference. That was like created in like almost biblical difference between being a senior in high school and being in your first year of college. When of course, they're just totally arbitrary numbers that came out of, you know, the sort of the history of education in our country, just basically randomly, well, it's very random, especially since if you go back even further people didn't use to go to high school. They just to be some magical demarcation between elementary school and secondary school. We got rid of that. Now, we have some magical demarcation in our heads between secondary school and post secondary school. It's probably time to get rid of that to the students. Don't even think this is just magical. They think it's nuts. I mean students literally will sit there, and they will say I'm sorry. But what did you think was going to happen here? You know, I had a free subway pass in New York City. So I could go to school when I was in high school. I got a free lunch. So I could eat, and so you told me to focus on school, and I did. Suddenly, I go off to community college. And you take everything away from me. What do you think is going to happen here? They think it's nonsensical. And it really is. So this is something we can do something about and we can do things about this with federal and state policy. But even as colleges even is just colleges and universities, and frankly, even for those of us professors, we can just wake up, and we can notice that maybe just maybe our students are trying hard. But they're really falling short when it comes to paying for school. Let's end by talking about free college. This is an idea that you have been associated with for a long time. And that President Obama suggested that Bernie Sanders suggested during the democratic primaries, and that Hillary Clinton has made a part of her campaign. Tell me your thoughts on where the nation needs to go with free college. Well, I think that as I said before we need to recognize that there comes a time from time to time when we look around, and we say look more education is needed. You know to survive in today's world, we gotta know certain things, and frankly, we have to know more today than we did one hundred years ago. I mean, I didn't have to know how to operate a complicated computer, even in order to fix the car one hundred years ago. This was something you did with your hands. Now, it's something you have to program. So in other words times change, and I think we're at a moment when a post-secondary degree of some type is needed. And so I have been calling for something that we've called first degree for free in the first degree is the associate degree. It's the first degree after high school in the associate degree means that you have completed a coherent set of courses usually about two years worth of college level coursework beyond high school, and it can be any number of areas, and we currently award associate degrees primarily at the nation's community colleges. But students do this kind of work as well on the way to the bachelor's degree. And I see no reason why they couldn't be awarded an associate degree on route to the four year degree, especially since so many students drop out after a couple of years, and if they were at a four year school, they don't even get anything that to prove that they even went to college except some debt. So I've argued that rather than simply make community college free, which is not simple. But it is a simpler terminology rather than make community college free. We should make the first degree free, and we should do it in the public sector. So if you go to a two year college four year, college, you could go and rest assured, you would not be paying to earn the associate degree. And of course, that's the price that is charged to the student. That's what's free. I'm not claiming that it doesn't cost anything for taxpayers to make this possible. But I will tell you that I've written a plan and propose. Missile that does not require raising taxes to fund this sort of thing. Instead, it eliminates a lot of really inefficient practices in the current system and reallocates those resources Siragusa grub. Thank you so much for being with us under jargon. Thanks for having me. And thanks for listening for more unfair goldrick Rob's research checkout, our show notes at scholars dot org slash no jargon and tune in next week for our interview with Caitlin Collins on working mothers in the US in Europe just in time for mother's day. 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Dopey 229: That Old Time Dopey Show, Alan, Harold, Joe, Bath Salts, DMT, Copping Dope, Corona Virus, Crack, Toast, Howard Stern

Dopey: On the Dark Comedy of Drug Addiction

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Dopey 229: That Old Time Dopey Show, Alan, Harold, Joe, Bath Salts, DMT, Copping Dope, Corona Virus, Crack, Toast, Howard Stern

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But if you don't give money that's cool too. I just love people listening to the show. Also if you want any snap backs or ski hats or socks I'm running. Low Van Mummy at. Dopey podcast and I will ship them out to you. Also we have tons of stickers if you want dopey clothes you go to go. Podcast DOT COM. There is a ton of t shirts. Long Sleeves hoodies but the dopey store is about to change. So if you want anything on that store I would order now at. Dopey PODCAST DOT com enough with the ADS. Here is the show so good morning or good evening and welcome to Dopey the podcast about drugs addiction and dumb shit. And I'm Dave and I'm in Manhattan. My father kitchen table. Can I say your name? Of course. With the great and mysterious chest hair? Eating urine drinking record players smashing crack smoking relapse. Having Great Legend Dopey legend Ray. Welcome back. I thought you were just going to say my name so I should change. Start over. You can't say my name. I changed my mind. Listen it's not evening this morning. It's evening when they list. It's morning now. It's very morning I'd say good morning to you but good evening to the dopey good evening and I have to say that. There's been a lot of uproar since raise last appearance on the show what happened. Everybody believe I mean? Raise been to people that have three times. People have cried on the show and two times. They were you. Yeah I'M NOT GONNA cry. No more no more drama. Well listen first of all how. How's the recovery coming? When's the last time I drink? Let me I think I have twelve days now. I kept doing like seven days. I kept getting seven days and then I would drink and then I've been going to meetings and been meeting with my sponsor and and talking to David and talking to me. I've been talking a lot of phone. Numbers and people been texting anywhere. Been good on that front but just like once a week I like breakdown and then the last time I was like you know I'm Gonna I'M GONNA buy a bottle of vodka was going to pick up the keys from the stewed. Why am I going to buy what keys? The He'd love to somebody so I went to pick them up and I was like music night. I was GONNA like. I'll get a bottle of vodka and I'll enjoy this night more and I thought fuck this like. Why am I like basically killing myself? Because if some dude like doesn't care about me and like doesn't matter why am I? Why do I keep doing this every seven days? And that kind of a breakthrough like what? I was doing it every seven days. So we call that like right sizing is coming in whereas dude was like everything was your whole brain in your whole heart and your whole soul. Now it's been it's kind of objects in the rear view mirror get to their actual size. Yeah I don't like I'm actually killing myself. I'm going to die. Well now. You're not killing yourself now. You might live although in the latest update in raise. Love life off limits. No that's cool Ray has replaced the last guy with another guy who looks like exactly the same and because ray has serious issues around sex and love. I don't think I do very nice handsome young man and we've been seeing each other and it's beautiful and it's very casual and it's really nice. There was also a lot of complaints that he saved my life. Here we go. We're GONNA get hot. Did He. Save Your Life my loving you. Yes when you couldn't love yourself here we go. It's like really cool. It's very casual and I don't know where it's going but it's really nice. There's been a lot of complaints that the show has been to gay very good and to Jewish into Irish. Nobody's complaining about the Irish quotient. I'm not Jewish. You'RE NOT JEWISH. So today's a pretty gay and Jewish episode considering. But there's some people coming on the show that are neither gay nor Jewish. Yeah so look forward to that okay. Do you look forward to that. There's been a lot. There's a lot of stuff going on in my life a lot of stuff. That's not great. I know star with the latest last night. He's going to Mexico with me. I'm not going to Mexico last night. Linda went out the other night and me nor were hanging out and she. She watches terrible TV. Like what the Bachelor now? Well yeah she does. She does that does he. Watch the mass singer. Yes Oh God. You watched survivor. That she was Linda loved survivor. So nor got into that. But nor watch this tween garbage. You don't know about this stuff. There's a show called Victoria or victorious. I've heard about some of it's all this kind of Gurjin -tated saved by the bell. Nickelodeon stuff yeah and I'm hanging out with them like Nora. It's you meet and she was like. What do you want to watch? Do you want to watch the simpsons and I said now I feel like I've watched the simpsons too much. I said I'm going to show you Ferris Buehler's Day off so me and watch Ferris Buehler's Day off and she goes Daddy. He's faking a which was cool. She went to bed and last night. We decided we were going to finish it and I also gave up Kito this week. The Kito is over. Oh congratulations yes thank you but now I'm like anyway. We're sitting there and we're watching. Various brewers day off. And we're going to eat ice cream and she's going to eat leftover carbel and I'm going to eat one of these frozen cones and I'm eating the frozen cone and I'm at the bottom of the frozen cone and in the bottom of the frozen cone. They packed chocolate in it. It's very delicious and and I bet it and my fucking tooth broke my fucking dudes pro. Didn't break it fell out. No it broke. I know but it's gone. Well now it's gone but it broke and if any of you guys know what? It's like to eat something and have a tooth break in your mouth. Do you know what that's like? Rab Never had. It is a terrible feeling. Imagine it's like I was just talking to somebody about how like Basically how I'm so good in my recovery that I can barely remember what it felt like to be a total fucking drug addict and the second the tooth breaks. He looks like a method. Well it all comes back you know what I mean and and then I was just like Oh my God. Oh my God my tooth broke and it's like I had another two break in my. I had another tooth extracted last year. I had another two break years ago in the midst of heroin addiction in California. So this is the third broken tooth in my mouth and it's sad and it makes me very upset and I'm going to have to get serious Dennis. A lot of money and And this morning i. I didn't set my alarm so I woke up an hour late Iran for the train. So I'm on the train. Filthy disgusting loose was. I'm just like this. I'm like who as Junky on the train without teeth? All barely see. You can't see Dave's missing tooth but I feel it. I feel lighter and the magic and you're talking there. Yeah Smile for me. No you can't even see well. It's very very very discouraging. And that's not. That's just the tip of the iceberg. With the way things have been going this last week. Yeah it has been a tough week for me. What else. Well you my my buddy. I have this very close friend who was connected to the show. Okay yeah drummer from my band. John and he got married and I wrote him. A congratulations on facebook. And he said thanks and then I got snarky and I said why didn't you invite me to the wedding. And he said why didn't you invite me to your wedding and I said I never got married and he said you know whenever you text with me I feel like shit so I think I'm not going to tell you to go f yourself but basically go f yourself and like what a sad thing sounds like a long friendship for no reason like two grown men like saying why didn't invite me to my non wedding dude got married courthouse also but that's not the thing the thing is why did. I have to be snarky with him and ask for an invitation. If I hadn't texted him that me and him would be okay. You'll be friends. I don't know I called him yesterday and he didn't call me back. Oh I also defended him. After he sent me. That thing would move. I had the different and I was so angry. How can you write me that but I also got into a thing with another friend? I was in a group TAC. You should stay off of Internet. I was in a group text with my old friends and one of my old friends. Is this very accomplished poet and one of my old friends. Is that very accomplished actor? And sometimes these group-group threads just wind up being like these weird like like facebook like look at me doing this book at me doing this Google. I hate them but and I like group texts where they're funny and like a lot of laughs and we put each other down and it's Kinda like old times so like the poet guy and two of the guys are in Seattle and the poet guy texts. I'm going to be in Seattle reading from my new book and I'm like you know I don't even know why I'm doing fine. Everything is good. You know you're so special. Tell me more about yourself so and then my other friend. The actor goes Oh. I'M GOING TO BE IN SEATTLE ADAPTING. Someone's book into a play and I guess I'm feeling Tired Railroad Alert Coleslaw and Potato Salad and party all day and I was like. When did this fucking text become the show off thread? I said today I served sixty five people Coleslaw and potato salad and look at me. Nice move look at me and and no one said anything you could have said. Hey My dopey podcast got four million dollars. I know and then I know I could have done that but I didn't instead I like. I wallowed in my misery which I'm apt to do and I felt bad and then like the thread got dark. You know what I mean somebody. Somebody wanted to support me. And they they made a joke. They're like I popped my pimple and then somebody else was like you know it got Dr. And then the poet was like. Can't we just practice acts of in this thread? And then I had to like reach out to him and apologize and he was like he was like. I'm just tired of of you. You know you with this bullshit and basically. It's the same bullshit I've been doing. You've been doing this ever since college. Never called you know I've been I've been doing it forever but like especially since I was on drugs like if somebody's doing well always say how bad I'm doing you know and it makes me feel comfortable and I apologized and but still I like to live in that place. I don't WanNa be like look at me Blah Blah Blah downloads articles. You know I don't. I don't like that right now but I'm sure I've done it in the threat to I do it all the time. Those threads. It's dangerous and it's all your friends like my old friend and I ruined it. Yeah I mean they're dangerous. Was that kind of stuff. I I do this. I'll bragging then I'll be like yesterday on the boss. I'm just got another gig in Dublin and I put that on social media on and I just got another cool gig in Dublin and then I'm talking to a friend in private. I'm like everybody in Dublin's getting famous except for me so I did them both within one minute of each other. Well that is the attic thing of being the sent the piece of Shit in the center of the universe or whatever that expression is in Dublin. I'm playing bloody Marys April second bloody Marys April fifth. And if you're in County Mayo I'm a Garbo's on April Third County Mayo de Garbo's and cast Garbo's castle box so you're speaking to the Irish speaking talk. They don't top of the morning I don't know they just don't crack. Do they all listen to house of pain? No drinking green beer. They listen to rubber band. That's do they do. They eat corn beef and cabbage. What do they do they go to allow the food? And there's all everything and tippers chippers efficient ships. Wow you really. You Love Ireland so by producer. Last night was up for now. Your producer was up for two choice. Awards for producer of the year top of the morning mister producer. He didn't win but still got nominated for two. And I'm going. We're recording in April and then going back in July and recorded another very big night for him. Chris Alfie studios legendary students. What are you doing? You're turning into an emotion. Oh my God can you say? Can you believe I broke my fucking to? You're GONNA come with me to Mexico. We'RE GONNA FIX IT. Really cheap really nicely. I think I'm GONNA have to tap into my father's vast finances to get a bridge. I think it's going to be like three to five thousand three to five thousand dollars a lot in what you know. I did that when I was in California and I had this happened with my back to I for some reason. I don't think I asked my parents for money. I went to a medical school at USC and it was a they are was dark. Gray Steel with these two idiots medical student learning learning and they fucking just cracked that shit out of my mouth. And I'm just gushing gushing blood and luckily I was on heroin or else that would have been really bad. It was a great excuse to just keep using you know not to mention. There's more news. There's so much news coming down. The Pike good bad yesterday this mother fucker from some fucking. Rehab called the retreat road some nasty terrible blog post about dopey about me all I saw and todd and this pussy who calls himself John D. He took it down. He by the way. Put a photo op of. He's been sober for forty years in the photo is like a thirty five year. Old Man right well. He looked even younger than that thirty. But that's weird. That was a weird picture. Do you remember anything. The article said because he took it down. I'll tell you things that I remember what I remember is first of all. They said that we cavalierly looked at addiction and recovery number one now first of all dude. It's the show is called dopey on the dark comedy of drug addiction on drugs. Dig Dumb Shit. This is not fucking bill and Charlie. This is not fucking. Who's Joel all steamed fucking and recreation? Our this is a fucking comedy drug. Show yes I'm in recovery. Yes thank God. Array is back in recovery and unfortunately Chris relapsed and died. And that happens if you're funny or if you're not funny you know and the fact that you're going to take a stab at something that obviously helps people helps me. God knows how much it's helped ray look at him. He looks great on. And you're going to take a shot at that fuck you first of all and secondly he called todd a listener and it's like dude you listen to this. American life and you write about dopey and I don't like it hurt Dave if you if you are on in the public eye people are going to say Shit. You're going to get people saying Shit like this so this is a good opportunity for me to get angry though. Don't you think so? What else did it say? Do you remember anything else? I can't remember the exactly but yeah He. He didn't like it and I thought you were doing it wrong. But you know it is a comedy of Dum Dum and obviously the dopey nation gets it. The straight recovery world does not get it or that guy didn't get it. Well the truth is the street. Recovery World has lined up basically to dopey because they know that because we do not handle it like you know saints or priests or teachers we handle it like people that are underneath a great spiritual malady and we approach it like you know normal people. It attracts people to it. And that's why it's something and like also I mean like dude rehabs play dopey in the Rehab yesterday a professor from. Yeah so let's give a big shadow to any treatment. Centers that are listening to dopey. There's a bunch of them. Did you know that no? They're probably already thing. I hear things up on this yesterday. A professor from Miami University had they had me. They played this American life episode for their class and then they had. They had questions from a journalism students. Wow and how it affected me or them or whatever it was pretty fucking like when you were young you had your show in colleges all around now when you're forty five Abe your show in Rehab centers all are from eastern appearance. That is interesting. Yeah so yeah. It's still very smelly details. Basically is what you're saying. People in the dopey nation are like some people are in full recovery. Some people are like a little bit of stuff and some people are fully doing drugs and some people aren't afflicted at all right all listening. Hold on I see my dad lurking. Dad Come here come here. Come on. Welcome back to the show. What are you doing chop chop welcome back? Good Morning Good Morning. I'm trying to stay out of your way. He's lurking out of the room he's creep and you're trying to get the paper here. Heard this yesterday. I was on a not to be Brag. I should put this in the text threat. Tell my friends that I was in a thing. I was at the University of Miami a professor of journalism at me on the show or me and the class after they played their students this American life piece she interview from the school. The students asked me questions. So and you were you a good terrific. I don't think it was. I don't think it was that good but more importantly there's lots of lots of pro. My Dad Alan support on the show. Oh yeah people in love with how people are in love with Alan. People are are searching him out and I just want my dad to read this email that we just got daddy. Where's your glasses? I gotta find it. I gotta find it. We get so many emails hold on for one crushing hard on Alan. Hold on all right. You ready amy spread you. Don't what's wrong with you? You don't say their full name. Sorry oh I didn't see this before I just wanted to throw no wonder I just wanted to throw my pro Alan hat in the ring and say I fucking die laughing while driving every time. Your Dad is on show. Is that good or behaved. She's a good thing that she hasn't died laughing or the two of you are too much. I personally would subscribe rate review and share a show where it goes on any number of topics up to and including pandemics pickled herring without creamy sauce potatoes with God it Cetera. Then he can occasionally invite you on to argue with for your short segments. Insult you when you leave kidding. We love you too dave team Allen dead of dopey nation. That's very very sweet. Yeah also I have really loved all your female guests of Lake. Keep them coming. Little's amy in Portland Oregon. Sorry my dad blue your anonymity amy. Oh Nice going dad. I thought this was one of those I tune things might add still. Hasn't figured out the difference between reviews and emails. What do you think about the tooth-breaking incident? Oh yeah all of a sudden this is a this is a monetary problem you have right and all of a sudden you think that. I'm supposed to have some concern or your monetary worries. I always have. I think that might be the case. This bridge could be the thing the bridge that breaks off the bridge too far. I think you're ready for here. Read this one down here. Can I say Matt's mom from Iowa? Okay Dave is a man. He's helped my son. He has helped my son immensely with his podcast. I don't think he stay clean without it. Thank you so much for all your hard work. Ps If I'm ever in New York I'm going to take Alan out on a date. He's quite the dish toodle quite the dish tutorials and very sweet also very nice. Listen that guy that wrote that thing That you were talking about which guy. He was criticizing. Dopey did you read the thing. I read it here. Take take raise Mike. Because you're making me crazy with this fucking shit and and what is your take. What do you remember from that thing? Well I remember he makes he brought something saying how terrible is to make to Make Fun and light of addiction and he was implying in his in his writing that that's what dopey was doing making fun and making light of addiction and he base it on just listening to this American life. So you'd say he's a totally fool a total asshole dumb piece of garbage. Who doesn't even listen to the thing he's writing about. Would you say he's a terrible writer and a not good journalists? I'm not going to say any of those things. Just a piece of shed I'm saying is is that he has reached a conclusion without the proper amount of evidence and that he is making statements without even considering thinking more about so. I'm doing that by calling him a piece of shit also like maybe he's a good guy that just short cut to lambasting. Dopey yeah exactly so. There was a lot of people what I there's a lot of people that wrote comments on his thing from the dopey nation. I let it off with your fucking dirtbag. But then a bunch of people wrote comments and then in the way more intelligent comments than mine and INTELLO's income. Yes and I put my comment up this morning. I I was. I was really excited to have. Ray read the piece and then me go crazy about it. But he in fear of the dopey nation took it down. So congratulations dopey nation. You've accomplished something great. He took it down. Nobody can receive and it's over. The threat is over. But there's a new threat on the horizon and we call that threat the corona virus last week. My Dad pooh-poohed the corona virus and said. Don't worry about it now. Twenty two New Yorkers are locked in their apartment. Maybe one hundred thirty nine actually. What's your take now Professor Alan? I never said don't worry about it. I say nothing is going to do anything. Never said. Don't panic about it. I said I said relax. I bought a lot of extra seltzer by the way to keep in the house. No I don't think you should panic about it. And I think he brought a bunch of jars of herring as well. Yeah I did one stocked up on cookies to have extra cookies. Also yeah that's well. That's not a panic is just trying to be prudent. They've also installed parral at the elevator. Now I know that that's a new thing. And and four of my parties have been cancelled. Major corporations have shutdown catering. Yeah well the stock market went down another thousand points. Yeah so you saying maybe you should not worry about about invested. So I don't worry about that but I'd say invest in Peleton Net flicks freshdirect stay home. Enjoy think freshdirect is going to work. Well I don't think they have freshdirect out in the rest of the world. I think they do don't they. I don't know write an email to dopey podcasts Seattle. By the way the thing that happened in text read with my old friends. I know Seattle has having the big problem with this virus alright. Dopey nation in Seattle. Stay Safe Dad. Is there anything you'd like to add about the show? Oh I don't think I think we'RE GONNA cancel. Dopey CON LA to yes in fear because we're on high alert we can't. We can't be traveling now. Well not the time to travel. Dad Not not now but the future. I mean. Come on one day when this thing blows of the apes is resolved. We can get moving. Judy could be perfectly fine to travel. And I think I'm traveling in April. It looks like I am terrible idea. I well we're going to be clear about this. You should get a head to toe. Gloves socks ski masks. Whatever just protect yourself and I think the next month is really going to be the thing either things are gonNA get fucking Haywire. Has Matt suits in the streets. Maybe Ray won't be doing Dublin. He won't be doubling up. Maybe he won't be getting dentistry and Mexico. The project I'm working on right now might be cancelled which is textile market week. All I'm saying is dopey nation. Be Safe out there and then the other dad. Do you have anything else to add before we get here. No no stay strong doping. Oh then there's another thing before we get rid of you. Did you see the person in the dopey nation that found the Howard Stern thing? Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah. Listen I remember that I remember? Even the family was saying the Howard Stern show and I said I guess so but it was on that at the end he he. I think he figured out that you were fooling around. At the beginning and the middle he was he was pretty convinced. Dave was very feisty too he was like combated with Howard right off. No the point is is that I think Howard Stern loved it. He he his mother. He thinks his father thank everybody for him. Getting the was just wonderful. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA play that in a minute but you know a while back I got an email or a post in the dopey nation saying hell. I shouldn't be on the show. How the show should be you guys so. Why don't I give you guys five minutes and see how you do without? I'm sorry interest show has to have you. Okay thank you dad. You have anything else you want to say about anything you want to get some coffee now down the other social. I play Howard Stern now. I want to say what I think. I was feisty very he was like this guy's not going to be on for more than two minutes. You'll wait a minute. What am I going to do? You sounded very cute. I was voice very high. The funniest thing about it to me right was and you obviously can't hear it on the thing. I was riddled with drugs. I was wondering if you were I was I wasn't high. I had taken every I thought we had done heroin that night. I think we did ecstasy at the beginning of the night and we were stoned and we. We were up all night because we had to get to see. It was a camera like four in the morning. We had to get there at like five thirty. I think we left the apartment like three Tripped and walked up town and when I got there. I think there was a great concert of the drugs working in my system plus insane fear of going on Howard that I was like I was straight but you know the guy that was talking shit about you. It's kind of like people go like I hate Howard. Stern and all they heard was like him throwing Baloney Women's asses. Never heard the show right a minute or something but you know when when Chris died and you asked me to come on the next week and I said yes and then I texted you like seven in the morning so I can't go. Mike Coworkers listened to the show. Because I told I call works. I'm going to do this thing and they're like you can't do that thing. That guy makes light of sobriety. If you go on there you're going to die just like that guy died terrible. That's why I didn't come well. I don't I've never made light of sobriety joking about doing drugs and then this guy died and the other guy died. Well I mean it was their take on by not really knowing the show just knowing sort of the the bullet points the truth is I never. I never feel badly about the content of the show like I don't because I've always felt incredibly passionate about my recovery. We go to a meeting and you hear the same shirt you hear like people laughing telling funny stories. It's the same thing. Yeah I mean but the point is like when we did what we did. We did it for fun. And as a way to blow off steam and it turned out it actually help people out and people liked it so it was like mission accomplished. If somebody else decides. I don't meet their agenda. I take everything very personally but in reality if I don't meet someone else's agenda that's more their problem our problem. You're not going to meet their agenda in many ways in life now. I WanNa play the Howard Stern show thing but I also wanted to talk about something else with this corona virus and it reminded me of a when I was using in the late ninety S. I had this kind of sense that the world was GONNA end. You know I felt like the world was ending. Bush was President Y. Two K. Was coming like and we were leading up to nine. Eleven and there were a lot of like crusty street. Punks in the street and there are a lot of movies about like the end of the world will will Smith and like there was a movie called like with Liam Neeson. I think like called end of days or dark times where they put like chips in their brains. I hate those movies. Yeah but it's like I just really felt like the world was ending and it didn't matter if I got high and I bet you there's a shitload of people right now with this corona virus who feel exactly the same way so good. Excuse it's a good excuse. I hate those movies. I yelled at a movie. Set One time because it kept making movies about blowing up New York that affected you and I was affected my parking my car. You making this fucking movie about blowing up New York in Latin now. I told my car like go blow up another city. Wow I I felt like end of the world movies and drugs. It made me feel and I ended. The world moves just feeling like the world was going to end made. It seem like it didn't matter if I participated in the world or not and here we are and this corona virus is coming and I have this fear of New York shutting down. I have I was at a catering event yesterday in the Hudson yards. Which is this huge development of buildings and businesses and corporations and and it was pretty quiet there and they'd everyone kept saying as soon as there's one case of corona virus in Hudson yards. They're gonNA shut the whole thing down. The Dave doesn't ride the subways but the subways on Monday. It was kind of normal by Wednesday. The subways felt really weird. I ride I ride the long island railroad and every time I cough I think I'm giving everybody the krona virus. I also hang out with these dominicans. It's like they were putting down Dominicans. I Love Dominicans but for some reason each meat cutter that I worked with this week. Had the worst cough. I've ever heard I'm like dude. Why the fuck are you here? You know if they don't come in they don't get paid right or just give you sick time. You can get sick time but we have a you know. There's a work ethic come in but it's like don't go to work if you're fucking sick right. That's WHO's GonNa be the whites. Someone handling food is going to be the one that gives it two thousand people now. There's a lot of things to play. I just said I'm going to play the Howard Stern show thing and I I had recorded something with my buddy toast from work. Do you want to hear I? The Howard Stern show thing or my buddy toast will toast. Intrigues me. All right. We'll Plato's so me and toes just did a catering job fucking Pennsylvania. I've been trying to get toast to come on the show for a long time And here is telling a classic classic tale of his past would some don't be nation so well like I was selling Dave one time You have to understand that. Toasts used to run. The lower east side used to crazy heroine Lori side correct so I don't think yeah. Nah I don't think I've about the so back in eighty ninety. It was about ninety six house before my time ninety six that's when the hydro dot little populated down in New York. You know people was didn't really know what it was when it when it was coming. There was real sticky sticky hydro than indoor the first really crazy indoor that you had smoking in a joint so you know to my brother-in-law's into the dope game and you know you saw hope one of my brother-in-law's so one of my brother-in-law's the feds came to pick him up in. It's like running around the projects so his mother caused my mother and let her know that the feds is like all over the building. So my mother you know shooting no I have a couple of pounds of we gun some heroin and so we lived on the thirteenth floor. So she she's like kill the fence just they they coming into the building so I scared I just throw out the window. A of pounds of weed the gun that don't end right out the window. Then I'll run right after that right down the stairs. I'll pick up all my shit now. Run some to my boy store and you know he don't know what's in the bag on hold on you throw everything out the window and then you're like why did you go downstairs to get it because you're upset that you threw out the window. I just didn't want to lose. My Shit is when you throw it in the first place. What were you thinking? I just didn't want them to come to my mother's house and lock me up with a couple pounds of hydro and on top of that at that time opponent Joe was like nine grand so I'm like oh it was like almost thirty grand right here so pick all my shit up. I'm asking to. I'd friends all over the place I just go to. My boy started telling you. Can you hold his bag for me? You know I waited to cool down and finding out what's going on who the feds picking up. They picked up a bunch of people that I went and got my shit and later on that night you went up on my business that said I was like thank God. I didn't pick me up like A. She should look Yup. There's another Dobie story from the Great House the up thank you. There's toast toast. I have to say toasted born on June. I like me and I've worked with him for twelve years. He he's the best. I love toast. We think of the story great is like another time. I mean. I'm sure it's a bit like that now. But those avenue projects they were like a world unto themselves and they still are you cross avenue in your now. You've left New York. You're in that world you're in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight the second year in Avenue de and those projects. You're in one thousand nine. The moms are all involved and you know like that but the thing is they changed the law that if if anyone that is listed as living at in this apartment is convicted of a crime or drug crime then the apart everyone loses the apartment if the Mamas air and her son gets convict families and families out and that I'm sure changed a lot of this is like the moms you know. Say all this. I'm sure if some people got thrown out and I'm sure that change the projects and and I'm sure like people still do that. I know that the last time like when I had come back from California I I didn't want to be using heroin and I wasn't using heroin and like todd who we talked about. Who is my old friend who I used to get high with. Who WOUND UP DYING? Almost two years ago was delivering. We'd around the city and him and I had used a ton of heroin. But we hadn't he wasn't using heroin and I I wanted to show off to him and I was like if you want heroin. Even if I don't have a connection I can get you heroin and he was like I don't know just go down to d and he was like well. Let's get you know and I said okay. Come meet me at cats. So he and I didn't know what I was going to do but I figured I'd just going to go to Avenue Day and the two of US walked to Avenue D and I did my big line which I always did when I was copying heroin. Which is I? Don't WanNA freak you out but you haven't heroin and met a couple dudes who did and they took us into those projects and they were like wait here in the stairwell and he went upstairs probably to his mom's apartment and came down and he gave us a bunch of dope and todd. I think we sniffed. I sniffed a bag in the in the cab with him and I got so high going or maybe we have to bag in the stairwell. It was it was it was Sherani and I hadn't done it in a long time here and we walked up the East River. And that's another thing that I have to say for me when I when when I in the past when I wasn't doing heroin and I did heroin. I didn't love how heroin felt. It was just so strong it was almost way two miles me the last time I did heroin. It didn't feel good and I remember walking up the East River with todd. And there's it's just like the end of the world just like broken bottles everywhere garbage people. It's a mess you can imagine. What the East village and I'm getting fucking high like the heroine and I can't believe I did this again you know. I can't believe that that I had gone off of it and and I knew I didn't have to do it again. But I wound up relapsing really badly but it was A. It was an avenue story because you said Todd. Watch what I can do sort of magic. That happened a couple of times with him because he I don't know I think it was just also just the fun of the chase. It's another reason that don't even exist. That was so much that was part of it. Is that going over there. And like finding it when you didn't know when you knew the place to go but then when you didn't no place to go then it's like I know it's here somewhere and you're like on an adventure. You're a pioneer but what you don't realize I mean this killed todd. You know this thing killed credit. There's like there's so. Many people who are listening was to todd defensible. Yeah he died offense and all he actually. Todd had gone to sober living for a month. He got bored he went home. He got a job working at a farmers market and one night he drove to Schenectady to cop. I think you've got to fucking bags. He probably did them in his car. He he probably through the bags out in the garbage on the way upstairs and and his parents found him naked with no no bags and they couldn't figure out what happened. But the way todd was he was very careful And it killed him and one of my best friends and I think about him every day and I don't think Dobie is to minimize the story. I think it's to reflect on the lives that we live and the consequences are either death or total misery. I mean there's a guy there was a guy on the show named Don who we called him. Dj when he was on the show he was on the show in the very beginning and he told this crazy story about stealing vicodin and he was on Methadone. He couldn't get clean and he was on the show. He sounded pretty good. He was a waiter in New York at Nobu and he had gotten you know he was living on not using anything else for a long time he went home. He's been struggling trying to get clean over and over and over he's still using. It looks like our next dopey scholarship our next tools for Chris. Scholar. Shaw is going to be done going to aloe. I think aloe is going to take them for six months. Don sent me a picture last night of his abscesses and they are so bad and then I sent him a picture of my missing tooth thinking. I was tough but it's it really doesn't compare. Have you been to Avenue d lately now? The last time I went the last time I was at avenue. D was it's they have all these guard towers with searchlights with generators at. It's like a prison you there. I went to the park over there with a friend to look at the river. Oh you mean the river park across new cross that and there's every half block. There's a guard tower. That's like twenty feet tall with a guard where there with a gun and these floodlights and it goes all night lights all lit up. Well it's also because rich people go to the park to run and a park in Brooklyn are the same way they have these guard towers all around like it's a prison. It's really weird. I don't know about it but it sounds bad and I drive by there all the time. A lot of the guys. I work with still lived there so for them. It's just the F that's what they say you know. They live on the. I ride the Avenue bus. Why go cross town of Fourteen? But do you ever go over to the though and just checking out the river joining me. All right I am going to have. I was copying dope. You are texting me last week about copying job and two weeks ago you were. Smoking cracks talking about. Is it so crazy that you would cop though? No not at all and three weeks before that. You were hoping you'd get fennel so let's deal with this thing. This thing is over the quota miracle you are a miracle Ray so ray is one of the Munich. Many musicians who sent in music for the show and another musician. Who sent in music for the show is a dude? I knew from Rehab in Florida named Harold. He did the PUNK rock one. You know that one that one anyway Harold celebrated a year and I talked to him for a little bit. Oh congratulations are here's Harold. All right I don't know if you guys know this Guy Dopey nation but he's been on the show before I met Harold. I WanNa say I met you like fuck in twenty years ago fifteen years ago. How long has it been herald about? Twenty years? I met Harold like twenty years ago in the Great State of Florida in the Great Rehab Renaissance. Harold is responsible for the Punk Rock dopey theme song apparently wanting it feral quick singles bars. Oh my God I don't. I'll do it podcasts. But I'll and so now no might be. It'll be nation all be made. I'm like yeah I don't I don't really want to just go out through. That sounds good. I'm happy I love the. I love that Jingle so Harold is celebrating right now. Why don't you tell tell us what's going on man? Yeah the I I I recounted my days because I try unsuccessfully to how the Inter dimensional VN's experience that was the relapse though right the possibility of UNC. Being this like you know vehicle to another dimension is real and not accessible through like any other means known to man at the time was so seductive talkative idea that eventually became to that but I haven't used anything L. I mean not only tried you want them have been sober off of Caroline Crock and then at drugs of choice in July eighteenth twenty seventeen to twenty five I elevated a year ago. Congratulations but I have a couple of questions. First of all let's hear about how is the Inter Dimensional D. M. T? Relapse will it was. It was very I didn't trip because okay so You know I have some friends that are into it. And they're really Rad people. I Love Them. They're super cool. And I kind of been over hanging out with them and they had like a by laughed at. I mean a long time and a lot of different you know. I don't know how much they had the most. How shitload of it. Anyway whatever's but I would kind of go into that environment. I know you're GONNA WANNA DO DMC. But don't do it like yeah. Maybe not a relapse. Bill Wilson and like L. D. All that kind of Shit and I was very curious about it. I didn't have step one dollars around. I wouldn't have used anything else. Adopt point by turned out to realize because in that moment it was like don't do that the MT and then I was like giving me Fox giving hit of that. Shit you didn't you didn't really out there like bent. We found the best way to do. It is to have the DAF so I did this. Dab OF EMT. It was like. I really wanted to break through so I try to take the huge it right and I haven't hit anything in a while and it was just like this really big hit and then you have to hold it is like you have to really try to hold it in for as long as they can and and Mike just immediately coughed with it so I quickly kind of injured in a state of panic. Like Holy Shit Herald. What did you just do? You just did stupid drug at a fucking party like really another Ashkelon. That's what you need what you needed to do. Another stupid plugging drug retiree. You of all people like now and try to play cool. I I was freaking out inside just like Oh my God. What's going to happen now? Tried to play it. Cool like weighed fifteen or twenty minute. Left called. My sponsor was hysterical. Thank God answer laid fucking you know and it was like it was really scary. Her Awhile for a couple of weeks or months. It was like I didn't want to just go. They didn't want to have to pick up a white tag all that Kinda Shit and Eventually telling more people about it eventually picked up a white key tag air. You know it was it was fourteen. It was very fortunate. I like you know I. I mean I don't want you know like you. You could possibly tested your higher tower thing because prior to that I had you know. I've watched documentaries and it's just interesting. That got really wanted. A really won't go through this experience and like now that. I depended in the didn't actually have experience which essentially what Chapman from using other. I don't know I don't know but the whole thing of like is the theory lobster for me is now become very clear in my mind and I'm not really that I'm not curious Adagios DMC now like I was right. Okay you know. I tried that. I had a super similar experience where I was like inbetween kind of like using. I don't think I was. I think I was actually sober. And a buddy of mine came up with some. Emt and I had the exact same situation as you did. And I was like I'm gonNA smoke the DMZ. Because I've always wanted to smoke the MT and here it. Is You know what I mean. So I smoked it and he wasn't dabbing. It was like a fifty year old guy who got it from like a sixty year old chemist and he smoked in one of those old Proto Pipes. You know those medal produce pipes and I smoked it in one of those and And I got high and I held it in. I did all that shit but I didn't. It wasn't like another dimension. It was just like a crazy visual audio trip. You know what I'm saying. It was not. I didn't find it to be another dimension. It was a very crazy visual audio trip and it lasted like ten fifteen minutes and then afterwards I was like fuck you know so I had a similar experience. What did you find that after you picked up the white key tag You got into your recovery. More again yeah. I definitely guard my recovery. More again and I hadn't totally left the recovery process which I think also I mean I it it you know. I definitely it was like Oh dude. I'm county the county day like it's like a reality like fuck you. I'm counting fucking day. You like I guess you like dot real scared and very much like Hell Shit. This this is you know is is like area and various things or want to lose my rap or what happened was fucking. I always like is as as as upset as on. It'd be about that if we can just not go any further. That's GonNa be a miracle that's GonNa be fantastic and what what do I need to do in order to in order for that to happen? So Yeah Yeah. I definitely like counting. The Rain at ninety like definitely tried to make sure that that was going to be an isolated incident and feeling like I would probably be lucky if it turned out to be. I always thought that you and I also had in common this like disdain for recovery even though we needed it you know what mean like. It's like fog. I have to do this like I remember like both of us kind of approached the program and I can't believe I have to do this kind of thing which is probably why we've been doing it for so long. You know the resistance. The resistance is high us in now and I'm happy you sound great. I'm happy you got the year and also Harold. Does this very very cool clothing brand called health? Collective six six six where he did this. Dopey limited run dopey shirt. Here's a million or at least ten. How many shirts you have herald Designed heavily AAC is eight super fresh designs and you can check it out on instagram. At health collective underscores six six six right it helped collected bic sticks no underscore now underscore. Sorry my bet. It's it. The brand's pulled health issues helped to stick six big. There's help collect is expect dot com. Check IT OUT. Nice book in our you know. Tell the dopey store you were gonNA tell about the one of the GNARLIEST book in experiences that I've ever had on drug. Yeah Oh yeah okay spill. Oh my God to worse Drug Experience. I was in New York City. I Had Gotten a hold of feed? Which isn't really that big on the east coast. At least not compared to how it is during wearing out with and I really liked it. I just Kamal Noun and I liked it and I don't even get to more kind of went back to the people that I got it from there. Were like street. Kids like New York Street kid junkies not the most trusted evil and right away the whole experience because like it felt really off to me this girl despite those Charter Act Really. Nice you know I was like fuck is going on. And they're like waiting hurts in the comes brings net and I nothing in my God. It was like this is not right and it was almost like a higher thing and intuition thing and in somehow in this process of waiting the cop I was like talking on out of here and this girl started freaking out and I was about to bail on the whole thing. And then the dude. We're waiting for just showing off the dock moment and he played it off and really cool like hey man. Sorry about her. She's crazy like you go so I I forgot box since back if I was hoping it was gonna deny that and I don't really know what it was. I'm thinking maybe whatever so I- snort Shit and bathroom like in public breast. I don't know it's been restrooms. Where the closest buck and restroom? I could find. I was on Fourteenth Street. Colonel and electrified Manhattan and without and snorted it and is like what the fuck fuck is going on. This isn't easy. Like what is this shit and it felt really like Topi or something and we're in my old and in that moment I came to a conclusion. 'cause died entered it with just weird. Energy is interesting telling me I really shouldn't be doing this. And it was so alarming that out this cycle Africa drug. She's probably some kind of research trickle basketball to take hold in my mind. That mixed with the weird chase of soap or something in my nose and fear that I have. I instantly concluded that God was trying to give me a one last year and I didn't listen in what had happened was that I had overdosed and died in that adoption. And this point whatever oracle paranoid bought into me manifested itself as reality in a way that I was fire that completely unfamiliar with so I had never done to ask it and washrooms. And it's like you know your trip and you eat shit and it blends and more into other shit you Kinda know. You're having an experienced the draw in my case the hallucinations which were extraordinarily visit. They did not look like appetizers. Lose two nations like and I was convinced that I died and gone to hell and it was just very convoluted scenario and it was sort of victim paranoid fears. It was like the New York City had become a concentration champion barbed wire everywhere. It was sort of knit of like this Demonic Attala. -Tarian bores had taken over the city. Right and this is what how was. I was my mind up close to the Internet and there was no way to get off. One Turtle's thing would play out because the powers that be otherwise at full athletic. Big Press any button and make me feel any kind of physical pain. Like as a bipartisan current neurochemical experience and I it was so horrible and there were even in the three day thing was locker on this bitty in every block every restaurant every little thing would take on a different team. That was sort of like a carnival. Ride where I would have to step in kind of horrible punishment. Birds One place public pool and look into the public pool in Williamsburg and I could be this thing that they're like us for handicapped people to get in the pool and I'm like Oh my God I'm GonNa have to get thing underwater return and experience station drowning but spirit journey right. You know at their and I could hear spas and screams and they were so vivid and it was people having their limbs cut off and tortured and and I it was so horrific and in in the Dr there was a construction site and in about this. They give that if I chose that reality. They'RE GONNA take my body stretch my body and turn my body into this building and it would be distorted painful because you know my bones would be ripped apart and become deal structure and I have to endure the cold in the end and after support the weight of the building and it would be like extrordinary in for internal grants and they were also horrible and so terrifying that I couldn't bring myself to expect any of them. There's two gnarly and so there's all of me not being able to accept the punishment in my mind. I being people actual human beings with their arms cut off and they were looking in there. So fucking pissed. They're like fucking pussy because you're not willing to man up and that's your fucking punishment. Now we're being or you're having a Harlan's bumping start off and your ball. I it was. Just that's crazy that's like the most traumatic psychedelic experience. Admirable that yes or sure. How did you how did you come down off that low It's cray strain so my my my you know this whole time. I was just a person walking around like my mom calls. My phone's right. Is it like two days in new it. I answered the phone and I in those early. I mean absolutely so sincerely apologizing. My mom and those Dari died wants to help. I'm so fucking. What is he said? I don't remember but she ki dot really scared and she called like a police department in New York. We're somehow she got in touch with this. We saw sister who in cells have like a brother who died of an overdose and so he went on some weird thing and they went the living which I wasn't in. I'm check down the door not allowed to do so. They didn't find the that way. And then my mom. My Dad ended up coming up there and at my I remember talking to my dad and I was like you. Don't WANNA come to New York become the York. Your you know what happened like we come here not going to be elite. It's this Taliban skate. You know it's a conscious barbed wire everywhere you know you can't you can't meet if you come back. I don't know if you're aware of that. You might not WanNa come up here and your Dad's I'm GonNa get up and meeting up with him and it looks like my Gab. I think he's probably a demon. That looked like my father and it was pretty bad like I think I was about the jump off a building and my dad's GonNa kill myself Just I was out of my mind and my Jack grabby like the police came in the ems to a mental hospital. And somehow I would stay up the no. I can't buy these beliefs officers or whatever service but this is playing out in my mind always in a psychiatric. Er still freaked out looking at my dad looking at these people is all part of the trip like wanting to just be the drugs like. I'm like he's just be the drug but like it was so real right I and then I'd kick eating. These weird's dines action. Served in that event proved that this is not coons nation radio thing tap and I I'm still a fight with somebody. Spike yards someone else needs bugged our energy sort of collided and I guess it was like this is it. I'm going to fight the female bucket. I'm GonNa go all lots going right. And and and that process was like injecting was some kind of sedative that that Knocked me out for a day or so. When I woke up it was up for the antipsychotic that you needed. I was like yeah. You'd day God that was. I knew so realize the realist most horrific any paranoid thing. I think would just be real. Visual hallucinations are completely visited. Corroborated it was awful. It was the it's obviously like it's the most re it's like it's like heroin sometimes feels good. Hot sometimes feels good. This story is reason not to fucking do drugs. You know what I mean. It's like I never had. I had like small versions of that. But that's fucking terrible terrible story. I'm glad you're sober. I love you and saying all right well thank you for bringing the dopey checkout health collective DOT COM and Herald. You gotta give us another song. Okay I will. I worked on it for sure for sure man. What are you playing music? He was a band together. What yeah I'm working on a Newsweek project finance everyone Recording on great. Now it's been friends and looking forward to June. Some shows in the future sees right on man just fucking being touched and whatever you ever need. Let me know for sure. Good to talk to you. Always good to talk to Harold. Talk soon care because Harold with Adobe Walls. That was amazing. That was dark. Yeah I don't understand. How people are those drugs. Who wants those drugs? I think people like I think metal those drugs I think people who Who wants that drug twice some people like I mean. I don't know I know that for me. I like drugs that make me worry less. Be like feel comfortable and safe. I don't like drugs. That make me feel heightened in crazy or eighty one a trip out then you trip on pretty colors like I've always said about psychedelics. Your taste music. I liked psychedelics. When I was a kid because I felt like it was like a quest and I went some place but as I got older I decided it was way too much war. I started started to see some dark show docks and I never did him again. Well that was Harold and Harold said is drugs of choice. Were Heroin crack in xanax. You know this was a departure. Okay those are feel good jokes. Wow I never felt that could from crack but it but I also have to say that I never I always say how little I like cocaine and Mike. I wish Harold would write that down. That was dot was epic. All right Harold. Right down. Heralds kind of dolby stories and Harold also like is a musician who like when I met him he had one of those Kirk cobain. Jaguar Guitars Herald. Did that Punk Yopie. Herrell should do that as a songwriter. Harold Dude as a song I got a couple of other things. Raised raised confessing his love affair to me now when he sleeps with this man. They have their mouths together but they're not kissing. They're just recirculating each other's breath for our so what I'm telling you right number one is too much. Gatien on dopey number one. I'm just kidding I love you. I love number two fuck in gotta be careful. This is dependency. You're using this guy to make you feel okay with being able to make us feel good. You know what I'm talking holding each other tight. Do you understand what I'm talking about. Not really there is a danger. You went from one dude. Who didn't meet your expectation so you went ballistic to another who totally like beyond my expectations. So the first one I was there for the salad days of him and it was a grim foreshadowing of what was to go on his cool. This one has guys. I'm just saying be careful. We're not exclusive dopey nation sex dates in Dublin. Already well double-check states. If you're listening send us an email. The podcast at gmail.com me five stars raising about changing his profession from painter singer. Songwriter to whore to professional male Gigolo. I know a lot of guys say to me like you're the best I've ever had if I could only get money out of you can. I am not fucking who you WANNA fuck. Well listen but I saw a video where they were testing the drugs at a concert and everybody had ecstasy and they tested and they're like this is bath salts and I'm like this festival is going to go crazy when everybody starts taking this and some people just threw it away and some people are like I'm gonNA keep it anyway. Have you ever done Bascom? No no bath. Salt was added height. When I met Chris. That's what Herald was on. I just associated thing. I don't even know are ketamine. Somebody reminded me of my old ketamine stories. Did you ever hear Mild Ketamine Stories? I think so the worst one was they had replaced the heroin with cat and and and when I take it I would sleep. Walk around my yeah and the one time I had shot ketamine and I woke up outside of my apartment and the thing that woke in a trance and I woke up an crazy scary stuff but I woke up because of the sound of my front door closing behind me. Yeah and I'm standing out there in my underwear and I had to go downstairs and call my father who had to come over in the middle of the night with my next door. No no I was living in Grand Street. Laurie side and the apartment closing woke me up. It was insane. The I've heard crazy ketamine stories in Dublin. Like why would you want that? It's like horrible but more importantly doping nation you're as concerned about dear dear brother Ray as I am pleased drop an email and and about sex addiction. Dopey podcast email dot com oven having great conversations with dopey nation people like some like some serious some lighthearted and people reach out for help which. I follow through a bit and I feel I feel bad. I haven't followed through those woman. Wrote to me from Idaho. Okay so I hope she's doing good. And I just people like chatting. It's really nice. Like people from dopey nation contact me just just to say hello or to talk about my where they're at whether I was talking to. This guy yesterday was like he's driving a gigantic mining equipment. Like one of those toes like cat or machine. Yeah like twenty times the size of a bulldozer. I'm like that looks like so much fun. I'm here painting intricate thing. Mike going out of this place but it's really nice to talk to people all over the world. Well it's amazing it is truly like a pseudo fellowship but what. I want to say to anybody who's struggling and is reaching out to me or you. I think it's great to reach out to anybody in recovery. I think it's great to go to meetings. Because what the Faulk I looked. The meetings in Idaho are few and far between well. That's an interesting thing and then I think the old recovery movement deserves a little bit of Spin. Which is doping engine. Which Dobie is a big part of the recovering people going to meetings? I just like go on doping nation and that's my recovery. Anything that you can do that makes you feel better. I say you do it. I think there's so much joy to be found outside of using and inside of using there's a little bit of joy but then it comes with this fucking price tag of slavery and slavery is not an easy thing to live with and nothing. It gets progressively worse. Obviously I do not recommend anybody doing anything they don't want to do but I also recommend giving the ship a chance. You know you give it a chance you let it build. I always think of recovery as a bucket and like when you first get into it. Your bucket is empty and the other side of the seesaw is like a lifetime of using and you. WanNa just put a little bit of your life into the bucket until you're invested. Does that make sense? It makes perfect sense. Have you ever gone to an online meeting? Never I suggested that to some people who are in like places without a lot of meetings and I looked at it. I didn't do it but it looks like it's pretty cool. Wow I've heard about people going online meetings know and then people have asked me about good old hot wheels and I spoke to hot wheels in the last month. I think he's doing good. We've tried to have him call in here and there and it's probably been my fault but big shout out to Mr Bryan hot wheels. We love you and I hope you're doing well and He does online meetings for. And I know some people in the dopey nation have been trying to set up a dopey meeting. Is it like Skype Dude? I don't know I don't know but I go to. I go to alcoholics anonymous. I say do whatever you can. I WANNA play a couple more things before we go. Do WanNa hear. There's a dude Arizona called Chris Taylor who is running for Congress and he overdosed and was that in the news. It was in the news and Friend of the show sewer frontage. For Chris Joe schrank calls in to drop the story. You want to hear great so on the phone. We have huge super friend of the show. Joe schrank welcome back on the show. Thanks man you know I feel like I'm on Dope Tattoo which was partially To honor remind me of Chris But you know I mean. I don't think a lot of your listeners. Have Tuesday I think ten of them do so. You're in the top ten percent of our of our audience. I know some of them have seen but above and beyond can't be that many. Not that dedicated. Now you are super friend. Remember the cartoon the Super Friends. You're one of the super friends and you're always you're always very helpful to me and I always appreciate your input and your insight and I know how much Chris loved you and and how much Chris really like he believed in you know what I'm saying. You were like a great mind for him to reflect to me about south. I love it when you come on the show because it reminds me of hand. Yeah no agree and you enjoy. We're talking the other day and Joe told me this story about this dude in Arizona also named press you want to tell the dopey nation about it. Yeah I mean it's not Look it's not. An uncommon story is a young guy. I have a real soft spot since Dad's because you know I grew up with my dad. Who DID TWO TOURS IN? Vietnam never got his shit together after that. So this guy. Did you know did a couple tours in Afghanistan? Lots of trauma he kinda got lost the VA system which is overwhelmed. And you know I mean. My personal opinion is that we don't do a very job taking care of them You know you teach somebody to kill humans as a political or defense need and then bring them home and say. Oh Hey there's a job fair for Home Depot. It's kind of. It's kind of an adequate. So kind of went down that rabbit hole with chronic injuries and pain and started with the opiates and so on and so forth and then he did really well for a long time As many of us do and you know he's on local City Council. He started power station help with addictions And the guy's name the guy's name is the guy's name is Chris Taylor Chris Taylor. We're talking about Chris. Taylor christel running for Congress in the first district and Arizona which is kind of a rural massive land district so lots of lots of those kinds of issues and then he overdosed. Luckily they hit him with. Nar can and he's okay but the sports kind of caught my eye because I think that there's a lot of those guys out there you know. They're not all running for Congress and it's not all going to be in the press for that reason but I think that they deserve a think deserve better guy needs to be ridiculed in the press. He is a young wife two little kids and so it's just a really hard. It's a really hard situation so I've been trying to trying to talk to him and he can't talk politics because it's very red. State is agenda but we can talk about you getting better and leaves the elite the Red State. Up to you when you're back on your feet right on so we want what we want from the dopey nations specifically Google Google look at his website. Send them a message of hope. Send a message of You Know Inspiration. Just we all need that and we don't do that enough reach other when. I got a court with a client and there's other cases Like just for an example. It's a domestic violence case there's the domestic islands advocacy group. That comes into the court right. There's never recovery advocacy group. That says this shouldn't be in prison. He should be in treatment and so I think that just as a community. We all need to do more of that. And you know look of website. Forget it is Chris Taylor for Arizona or something and keep. You can leave a message. There find him on facebook. And you know and politics and military service notwithstanding. He's one of US easier addict. Who's struggling and and throw him a line throwing the what's up from some and just blow and honestly I think that recovery might be the one or one of few places where red and blue America overlapped and like. Okay I get. Outta my talk about the wall man. I really don't but you know I think you should have good care and I think you should get a chance and I think you should Be Present for your family and you know there's a lot of things that we can agree on well how to try to enjoy your life without getting high. You know that's where we're talking about finding some peace or finding some love and finding some happiness right correct and finding you know. I think that that people who have issues with mental health in general and specifically with addictions are often very break Diana People. We need advocate Congress. Look I hope he makes it? You know hope he gets back. I hope he runs and some some other election cycle. He'll be can tell the story and I hope you can advocate for Recovery Causes Congress. Because we don't we don't have that and we should right. There are not many out addicts in the political. Sphere is what you're saying. That's what I'm saying. And even if they were out You know I don't think that people have to be necessarily directly impacted to be an advocate. Your who's the Congressional members saying? Okay we need to stop this criminal thing. These people are not criminals. We NEED TO SHIFT GEARS. And twit a global or at a macro level policy the knowledge values and skills of public health. Because that's really what we're dealing with. People get better when they're treated as patients that get worse when they're treated as criminals that doesn't mean we don't need to be held accountable for criminal behavior but using having the issue of of addiction in and of itself is not crime and it shouldn't be treated this crime right all right. How're you doing job by the way? I'm getting working on some stuff you know doing my thang La Which you know. I mean it's always funny. What's an emergency here like? I always find this culture funding because like if somebody's running down the street New York you. Something bad happened Brag. Somebody had a heart attack. If somebody's running down the street here it's like an Olsen twin lost their charter right. It's crazy what an emergency is in. La You know here. I am and I'm working on some projects to be determined that I'm happy to tell you about the right time. All right and we'll see we'll look forward to show and check out. Chris Taylor everybody and I love Joe Your advocacy is is great and the Tattoo is great and thank you thank you hi to the nation and yes nation do do something not You know outside yourself today and send a message to Chris Taylor right on Joe Thanks Man. Okay tigger so yes. Please send compassion to Chris Taylor. You know all of us. Anybody who's struggling deserves compassion. I'd say and in other news. Josh First dopey scholarship doodles for Chris. Scholarship is now in after care provided free of cost by transcend recovery. His after care. It's like after you get treatment so you don't type of yet it's like a sober living and he's there for sixty days in Venice California. Wait he went from Connecticut to vintage. You went from Wisconsin and negative twenty five degrees to mountainside to transcend recovery while Charlotte is in her first few weeks at turn bridge in Connecticut. And she's doing great. I sent her some dopey shed and she's like everyone knows. Dopey lots of places. People don't know dopey but at tournaments they know kinda worried about Josh to like get out and then where are you? The truth is I'm still worried about Josh. Like well worried about everybody. I'm worried about Josh. He's like licking his wounds. It's like it's I'm sure a lot of people can relate to that feeling of getting sober and wondering when they get to get high again and I love Josh. I hear from him all the time. I worry about him and I just anybody. Who's in the beginning of recovery going to meetings? So I have a very good friend who has been like the worst worst alcoholic drug addict as long as I've him and then I got sober. And he would say every night and he did help. I need help and talk to and I would like say. Text me tomorrow. We'll go to a meeting and I fucking gave up on. This guy. Wrote him off. He's one of the unfortunate and this went on for years and years and years. I was like he's just going to die like I said that all friends he went to Rehab and I thought he's GonNa get out of Rehab and immediately relapse. He was you know he's now he has over ninety days. He's fucking by texting. He's like holding me up. He's texted me everyday taking me to meet his saying how are you? He'd totally got his. He's overnight today's now so he was in Rehab for thirty days. I mean there's no reason like when I got sober you had like a year or something remember and you help me and then I get to help you. That's where we all get to. Do you know anybody who has their shit together. Help somebody else and anybody who is struggling. Reach out to somebody you know that. Got Better because all anybody that got better all we can do to to preserve ourselves is to help you the woman in Idaho. She said. I can't believe you must think I'm not a total stranger and I wrote to you and I was like I asked a total stranger for help and he helped me. So there you go. That's the deal and speaking of people getting better. I WANNA play another where we're going to do chose almost over to go. Ray has to go. I want to play one more voicemail from Tim from philly longtime listener. Amazing dopey story and then I WANNA play the Howard. Stern thing you want to go now I to go I have. I'm late to work. You don't WanNa hear this great tale of recovery long ago three minutes. Okay all right Yo. What's going on everyone? This is Jim from Sally Just giving a quick voice now to report some good news First Time in a very long time coming up on thirty days here man complete absence. I feel great My mind is is working again And I'm really digging into this recovery. wanted to let you guys know manage. Still bad out there This last run for me was like a just an eye opening scary experience Back to running around the streets and Kensington putting things in my body that I don't know what the hell are It's bad out there man. Like I'm telling you I would wake up in the middle of like cooking dinner on the ground would like blender my hand and just I'm just fall out like they're putting their putting not only fit and all but like tranquilizer. I mean it was bad I was I go. I go out pretty much every time And that's scary that I got to that point. But that's what happens so But that's not where I'm at today and Just wanted to give you guys some home in I'M DOWN IN SOUTH JERSEY VENDOR recovery. Strong on here got a sponsor going through the steps home group commitment Plugged into church. GONNA go serve their as best. I can and Yemen. I'm full force. You Know God is good. It's all about that spirituality. Minute higher power whatever is GONNA be But you know I I. I realized that you know my my thinking is like no like I. I just get myself in bad situations so I need something bigger to myself to control my my life so I carried you guys to search that out but yeah man It's it's good. It feels good be sober. It feels good to be clear minded and Just a little just a little positive. Love you guys back in the community. All right and Fucking TIM from Philly. Very inspiring to you. Know what I hate that you have to leave now because I also had a new dopey verse from from Wick New Dopey rappers and Howard Stern okay. Well here I'll listen. You want to hear it all right now. How long is it? The dopey verse a minute and a half. You WanNa hear it. I have so much to do at work. All right fuck it. I love the Dave came into this. Pull it to. His Dad's place immediately took his clothes off and changed into his pajamas to do the show. That's what I do. That's how we get. You can't wear jeans while you're doing this show. I'd rather not be confined. His jeans or laying right by the front door. I'd rather not be confined to my jeans. Okay next week you guys will. Actually you know what fuck it raised not going to hear it. I'm going to open up this week. Show with wicks verse so you could hear it on the show perfect so now. I have to do that and what else. I'm going to end it with the Howard Stern show thing. I'm GonNa play the whole thing because it was like the greatest thing I ever did. It's very fun. Besides dopey and having children and falling in love and all that good stuff. That was a good save right there. Thank you so ray. Welcome back no more tears no more. I figured I'd get older. I I figured I could do it then. I get to. Lowe's no not even close. I talked about the licking the urine and eat all jazz. No you can't make me cry. I'm cold cold stone. You've got an ocean except when you're is huddling with the new man recirculating your through grants. Yuck anyone know committee I had a full battery of. Std's test right down like two blocks away from new guy. Yes okay yeah but just in general I have. I have nothing. It's a miracle. It's a miracle praise. Jesus stays strong dopey nation and fucking tools for Chris to stay strong doping nation. By the way. Here's Howard. Stern is a guy now who says he works for something called the show what he works for. The burly bear network that I think it's a network actually has some legitimacy. It's a college network. Was this guy's name. This is getting awards. Yup Entertainer of the Millennium. That's right what's your name. My name's Dave Alright. Gary Nicholson Farkas. This guy he's GonNa be here in about two minutes. Hey I'm not going to do a whole three hours with you. I don't expect much okay. Lie Your College Kid and you make these knock yourself. Well hold on a second college or not. No no but you work for the burly bear network. What is that described to us? It is the largest college cable network in the country cable network. Yes what does that mean radio or television television? So you're on television show. I have my own show called shuffled. Great Chappel okay. And this goes to College. Campuses the show yes such a closed circuit network and it goes to some cable systems. How does that work in other words? How do you get into college? Basically just send them videotapes and they played three hours of programming every day. Because I I went to college college I never know where to get. It becomes the students television in the dorms they have closed circuit TV show on cable systems. They have sort of what happens if they send him the tapes. When when you get pulled out of the tapes and they take their word for it that they're playing them on my college dorm and I got a television set right but my hooked into cable. Yeah cable the college controls. One of the stations set in in the college. When you're in your dorm the college has an actual channel of its own. Have like five or six okay on the cable system and then they take your tape and they play it. Where do they play that at the Dean's office? Now they play on all the in all the rooms. They played in a surrounding area. Cable Systems. Run on Time Warner Manhattan. Now every Thursday and Friday one thirty PM shuffled now. Now how do you show what you're saying is that you had? I GET MILLENNIUM ENTERTAINER OF THE YEAR. Who voted entertainer of the Millennium of the Millennium? How did I get that last spring? I started this survey by Ken to your secret. Aa Holes back in the day. Ultra secret affiliates on my five hundred networks. Five hundred safes talking about him. I got got him the whole thing. You are taking it. Aren't you? Went around and answer bunch of people who they thought was the best petitions. They roam the campus. They are secret affiliates halls. Exactly how many guys you talking about? How many people like about four hundred and fifty four hundred people went around and asked people who is the entertainer of the millennial on college campuses? Yes go ahead. So they took. The Pole took a survey contacted. My the person I work with. Who is in with all the affiliates as and you want I want you know Adam. Sandler was a close second. I got sixty six percent of the vote. Salmon twenty two percent. That's not close. No you got sixty six percents twenty to the landslide. Landslide wapping pretty close. Nixon won by. Yeah you wrecked him. I mean I'd say it's pretty close to it. Who Else was sixty six hundred twenty two so that doesn't leave room for too many other people. Now I mean like Bob. Hope was third really bark of highest among college students. The Millennium is long. Time right and who else. Well everybody else was just fodder religious name free percent out of there so I in a landslide landslide and in other words. You didn't say do you think Howard Stern is entertaining the money just to give us the name of the entertainer of the Millennium Xactly? And your name came wasn't Letterman or Leno. Jerry Seinfeld Howard Stern. That's right yes. I think you're incredible but hard to none of those other names turned up on the list. But Bob Hope he's saying they did but in very small amount very small numbers. I don't think they hit the college market. The way you do that. That's my that's my analysis. No let me let me see my award. What did you make this yourself? Then make up. What THE WAR. The actual award made it for me. You had it made had it made it says for truth honor in the American way shuffles entertainer of the money and Howard. Stern is not even a huggy bear. Networks a hey it's the BURLINGTON earlier network. It's a bowling trophy. You See. This is some serious. Wake me. Please accept my award the Millennium Wow speech. Yeah please choose that Robin. That is very heavy. Award that's what I'm saying that the quality in that you can use it the hit Scott over the head with a hold the door open bitch competing sky for the list of chooses Gary about why. Why would we song what was some of the exclusively gave me one of them? Was that the guy that came into nick. This morning. This was the first time he was seeing the setup because Richardson we were ready. And the other one which is my personal favorite is that the wireless is on. The wireless is a very powerful Mike and attends to suck all the other down. There's no other sound allowed through what was being able to hear that things were going bad that when he says he wasn't sure I see. Why does he keep them out and say? I have no idea I on behalf. I'm having nobody. This is a thousand years. I'm going to choose the millennium. That's how this is a thousand years. Ladies and gentlemen can wait a second. 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Three Wide, No Cover - Weekend Racing Preview - Eagle Farm

Three Wide No Cover

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Three Wide, No Cover - Weekend Racing Preview - Eagle Farm

"Freight wide cover I'm your host meek wall very excited to be here will go group one racing back on the calendar. We've got a couple of special guests. That is a big shug before we get to that just like to introduce Moi to see mad about Tan joined. Vance and everyone's five social Gulf Salmon. Marshall however. We gentlemen going well. Yes we're back to Brisbane and to group want, and they're pretty good. Group wants and I think we're going to draw Dick. which is obviously a positive someone as well speaking of dicks Josie will stop what we always start your track report. Yes, so Eagle Farm. We're at three meters. He punches rice. T afford go. We are on a good for beautiful conditions. We're at twenty two twenty three degrees in breeze. Vegas for this weekend and no windows bare, estee so pleased there the wind sock and stay at home. Has this truck going to play well. Tricky it's hard to really work. They've had some issues of had a bit of these in the grass boil reports. Account help now he can't. I think they're going to be getting off the rile, so I think they're gonNA. Come to the center of the track, but I think he can probably win from anywhere in saying that in terms of. information and data if getting those back mark, is it still a six percent seven percent so a percentage play I don't WanNa be getting too far back, but I think he can win for midfield late. Is I? Think W K as well if you get the tempo to suit, but I think once they come into the strike, they to come off that strong that rile, and they'll be out in the middle. That's what happened to not a guy that any go ahead. Or thinking that's going to be signed. DID HAVE AFFORD TO GO? Josie, because I ripped the top of the bice, was firm, and was just looking for that bidder going, and it seemed to be the middle, and the ad saw that tracks so. That's the case on a good four gain. Well, look for him to spread. The ones that resorting way those close to the jockeys and we bring bringing you. Some Jockey Stats Josie. You're going to zero in on a couple of jockeys for this weekend. Doing this is probably the last five or six weeks. We think it's been pretty profitable for the punt is at there, so we go up to Brisbane again from Asha when what we don't say these jockeys a lot, but we can drill into their stats and I go really. Really well, opping coins, and the first one I'M GONNA mention his Roy Maloney He's a junkie. That's going to queens probably in the last couple of years and really Fanta rich vine form, he's fourteen from his sixty eight, going at twenty and a half percent, and the case that's on Metro tracks too big group one day you want you be group one roy to be able to perform at the highest level and Roy Maloney over the last. Six months to a year has performed on the metro tracks and he's got some really good roads I think yesterday. Yeah, think the best to those. Josie will come up in rice, wray, Pinnacle Staff Three Dollars Tanis. You're five seven dollar chance six number four ninety cross for the Waterhouse Tumour all along and they wall river at Iran that fourteen dollar mark in the JJ Atkins. That's Pug Maloney's best raw for the weekend. Another Jonas Becky vilely knocked off Hayes trying to. He's absolutely just in sensational form twelve minutes from. He's lost forty three going at twenty eight percent again. This is a brand all of acquaint land beneath a joke. You can really. Put you fighting hopping Queensland to get the job done for again. He's got some pretty good roads day that we can go through advance. Warning Rice, one very popular this Olsen we heard from we'll be catching up with tiny goal and a little bit lighter on four dollars twenty five at rice rice full Milkman toodle Noni five at looking to bounce back into some form type in the Atkins eight dollars, and then you've got a needle in the last rice rice on at. At three dollars sixty, so he's armed and dangerous, very good Josie trainers got China's well the Edmonds camp. That's it's going really really well. No one from they lost ninety four, so that's a really good sample, so I was going at twenty percent, but the Metro Dan, even for fourteen from they lost fifty twenty four percent. You want to be with that camp up in Queensland Big News. What's wrong to drill down Taibbi tramp? We're going to get them on the show. One of the Edmonds there to go through their chances on the weekend, the best in terms of what the market suggesting rule witness rice, five number four ran the six dollar mark. Then you've got wisdom of water in the Atkins Rice seven number three. That's six dollar mark and then the drinks. Tipping because a bit of an upset to run that four hundred meters in the Atkins Five. Number five ran that twenty, twenty, one, mocking from about twenty four twenty five dollars, speaking and just another one who doesn't have a lot of Ranasinghe, but Stuart Kendrick is a to. That's going really well. Six from his lost thirty. Get Twenty percents so he might be a trying to out of the market the market not. Be Process, but just KP ammonia saw nothing about. For Stewart's runners. Value then we'll take a break when we come back. Group ones say. Welcome back to the free world, and it's Taunt to get into the group ones. Genteel we'll start with the. Atkins at first the group ones on the cod real far. Is You five dollars ninety to move water six dollars? mccur, A- At seven dollars Austin type at I was not an option in walled rule by four thousand dollars reward at twenty dollars. The drinks Cart twenty-one Tiktok boom at twenty, three and the best of the rest aries. The minor at twenty six bucks Josie. Map tricky map I was of water. Obviously, it will go forward star roster, I think. Thinking might actually take his seat. We just be interesting to say what attorney Golden says about. That superior goes forward brought for I think we'll try and find a spot could get the one one. You just never know who is like the type I think I'll try and roll forward. I think they'd be enough Speight, obviously a few getting two four eight hundred meters. Meters for the first time, so that might be a concern for them by going to be even enough team POW in the Jiji Atkins. Where did I say oh, well et Cetera with the Horse I. The best who was in the rice and that's roth four five wins from six guys. It's only file was on a really wet track to start to go. After that tip today at a Ted seventy days off, and then it came out and was really well supported. It was two thousand sixteen to two dollars. Forty was a moderately ron rice, but they came home, best lost four hundred of the Diet and they just used up a little bit I think it was twelve o one. The last two hundred wasn't the best lost two hundred, but it was the best last four hundred of the died. That's a positive sewing. Overall baiting older horses in that mix to really who was Ross Foia? It was ranking, really highly writing really oily CEO ISOTOPIC jet air to fuel the I. Think some really good people in Jay. He's a star the. Learned so much from him so hopefully it runs really well Nick Tony. I think. That's well Ref Lucy although it's GonNa. Go is hopefully. She runs really well, and she's a major law. Chance in this. She's clear, sick and peak. If she gets the Ron, she won't be out of knockoff broth foyer, but just going with Ross off the seventy. You'll had twenty days off after that. Run as well but. Two good rice, but I'm with Roth for. Jt on the shy should we used to? Well, we're. In the beginning. In a Bunka, allowing about lots of things that have appropriate right now, J. was lock stock and barrel Isa shared after the boys good luck with Austin type and Tony Gaulan coming up to tell us Ola he's chances Rafah was terrific winning I up After a nice break down he. Got Big wins when he drew wide, and I took him on, and he had to work a little bit to get across five of the twelve hundred meters and forgiving gowing and he. He, so be really nice to see the this. Try and take a sittings absorb some of these. Some of the spade McClure's really good vine, a foam winning three races in arrived from the my used to stable, jumps up to the full I know motives, but joining saw buried. Wisdom Award gets a rod she's he wasn't fire. Y behind the white guy and he's coming back and he's one of these two is still learning tool a bet, but he's got speed here to wall will come across his guts paid on looking for a horse. At side of Gnome, he open jargons, issue or think will appreciate the seven furlongs, and this is the drinks cat. This big strong taught learns to relax backing behind him, and I love the white these while Phnom twice this time in a sitting back off them have looked sources replies really big striding hose loved. It's Gallup. OUTLAST DOT! It's being sparked a little bit. The drinks cow twenty-six is into a bad twenty one dollars, and all these can take a sit sit back off that wall speed, and the last fifty will be very very strong light so I'm going for a little bit of a Rafi at. Five runners this storm in because most of those horses that are genuine changes in the judge, Ovalles row Ford sit on burden, but we taking one another on, so I'm looking for a whole set can sit back and maybe. Get Out of the top of them in scare him a little bit that lasts fifty at across yard, very good couple of options. They have the pundits. Let's have I looked at the Strasbourg. You've ever here's Dylan passenger. Trains that I doubled exhilarates is at non heart how eleven vygon and toys on both its Sixteen Kevin Tyree at twenty Reinier twenty-one Nick, neither at twenty three dollars, and just having the Pie Bams on fall twenty, six best. The Wrestling Josie map here, really really tricky. He is a fan of really tough to try and work at what was going to end up leading to be genuine spayed near. Don't pass. The Guy is twenty three, but. Estee, you probably a really good judge of these, so that four hundred made a run does give them some time to get to that I spend, so it might not be a big concern drawing wide. It's not annoyed. But in terms of compared to some other tracks, it's not hugely disadvantage. Yeah, we'll the figures law sixteen Gallup, so then got saw berries of one a good six tonight. Horses that a set out saw three white fullwood with Cavuto blending into the rice. They tend to stay out of trouble in terms of the. After that I too long as jam of speed on speed horses, so if you've got good form when you've Joel Maude Horse the Horse and that's what is lending to July. Yeah, when we throwing passage, drops the fifty kilos. It's been really impressive this whole prep. Fast Ron, Rice. Ray runs a guy, then a slow rise, but I'm best last four, hundred, two hundred and start carrying fifty-seven key allies. Two Dollars Fifteen five was on a pretty good spayed in came. Hyman was pretty impressive through the loan. Last four hundred loss, two hundred, pretty good for the die. Artists think I'm not worried about this guy I think he can roll forward and just fifty kilos. It's the one I want to play with Doan passage I think the other diners probably exhilarates to rights deeper than that, but on with Doan passage of Monte shorter than the market of market four hours twenty on pretty debate with passage gotTa love the. The three year olds that are in really good form an guy back to his Hawkesbury Guineas, we can take it dome passage in sit off this hot spades drawn drawn Dave Wooden. Worry me for was riding. Him are just make sure. We began while a on the backup waterhouse bought ticks. All the boxes drops to that fifty kilos. We're GONNA talk. You're at a joint dome patsies. That's for sure but. At one at a little bit of value launch, trekking with the white I won last year came and Tari. Victorian was very good on sprayed winning the lead up to this rice toys. I was annoyed. Catcher out of that Rice I'll walk hoyt tile, dropping down to that forty nine kilos, forty, nine and a half key allies. He's a winner. Two time winner this time in and he has the measure ever exhilarates the three times. I've met her twice. What because he's got that rice patent that lanes into jump at land on spayed. Using the grapevine a foam free weeks in between Tame Snowden hard tile each day for me very good. Thank you, gentlemen. We'll take a break now when we come back more action from. Welcome back says it's time to have a look at Rice's four and five on the cod at Eagle rights for your favorite. Here is Milkman Todos Don t read Steiner at three I. Say Paris. Six Dollars Gresham at seeks fifty mangione at thirteen dollars heart, our Pika Palm, bald assassin megastar. Guess what they're twenty bucks. Poisoning guy with the package. Partnership is the best of the rest of them thirty five Josie. Yes, this is a sit white rice. A couple of these horses have a high domestic writing, but they're actually lowering the white two white I up in Queensland for some of these races. It's a little bit of a normally these Rice's state of payroll. Go forward. Milkman will go forward so I think they'll be enough spayed in this rice especially McMahon's drawn wide, so you'd think they'd be a bit of spayed. Went with Milkman mock these Horse Tudo was ID, so I think it's a pretty good price at the moment, and there was a little bit bigger than the price than it is showing the early. sits up really well for these rights to start to golden boy Sir Barnabus, that was a really good rice. It was a fast run rice. They win one second inside standard and then lost. It was heavily supported two dollars eighty into two dollars forty four I've got eight and by Gresham, but makes that horse better at the whites two and a half kilo, so I think I think it'd be on spayed or just think this is a great rice four. Milkman gets his chance to win. Not Goes on replaces Jockey there. Sorry, a positive there. He's writing twenty percent. We want to be with him Milkman for me. But I'm just having a little bit on Mangini to 'cause. I'm scared about that. Whole food up for see well organized. But milkman pretty confident at these replacing a junkie with a jokey. Milkman what Gresham Milkman last because Gresham was ridden, unbelievably well last hug, defense, showtime, gnarly and Gresham at that stage was seventeen chance. Gresham needs to back that up Ken from that barrier and sit no honestly midfield at a price. Authority Red Stain AH was too good for. DOT looked to have every chance. Say detail beyond. What the white red setback she went buying, and she's very good guy. Gain of Fulham and so she's a two time out this track and trip. I'm going to take on Milkman in this race all thought at every chance of the go-carts last night, and drew an awkward guide, so I'm looking to try and settle in some way is Milkman red state, if a made the four year old man vine. Should we have a rice far general wins? Let's have a booklet rice. Five on the COD. Jimmy Reidy is three dollars, twenty spinach, choice and witness bite at the six dollars. Seven dollars is up. You've seen that show gills. It's an interesting I haven't. Eleven dollars. They're Har- far at sixteen. Asaki at seven nine were Warren Pa at seven nine days it man at twenty three, and as he's arches paradox, two thousand dollars also Josie Watch a little TV to be on us. swigging my wife three Bluey the moment. Plenty of He's very good. Plenty of. She's very very wasting. To Go. Digressing very fast, run right here I. Think over a thousand made us is going to be plenty of spayed horses, spirits choice Oh. Go Forward Arches, paradox and several others are definitely going to make. Genuine Faizan and made a horse. We speak bad at a lot. And Made A. Rice's usually. They hasn't made a horses now. It sounds weird, but you trying to find a horse. It's got a really good profile for thousand Mehta's as a few that fit this. Spirit choice. It's off one hundred and sixty one dies, but it had three over a and made is four three wins and always wins over. The maters have been really really good. All of them have been inside standard, Time. So I, that's a positive so on two of them made at the Sunshine Coast always shown showing. One second, so it's time and one and a half seconds inside so I'd stand in the first one when it was Leona. Career one at I code Dalby so again and he was fast. Ron Right so these holes actually can absorb pressure it law playing on spayed in Fast Ron Rice, and he marches get all these other horses that native a seat to be chasing and chasing. Chasing when I don't WanNa be chasing of at six, hundred, four hundred, and that's why these units rice spirits choice. That's why I went with it I'm not worried about the war guy. I think you can see that so I'd later something like that and he's GonNa be in this race for a long time. Spirits choice is daily a few. Coventry's up the road from Dubai. Oh I think it's different state that was in Queens. Growl. Dolby thinks that. It's interesting rice. This little made a benchmark five. Is Zach look second on the heavy? I I. Forgive that holes for that Downing Greg good use of the climb with fifty nine kilos and a lot of so I love. The trip thought rule. Witnesses really good chef from the stable coming up a witness, the handle the truth and all thank God of Thunder. Foam from last preparation is good enough. Just drawn an has hasn't had locked this. Set ply back to the thousand made us Jimmy, lighting the full year old made that I'm going. To win three stats back, and that was over twelve hundred metres at Eagle, femme, now the second and third one unlisted rice, and the listed rice, so that's really good form the freshen, not being the run that I'm going to get from one to finish over the top of the because the diners are drawn in and that spirit choice Catholic I've a little bit of petrol and take one another on Sundays a battle tactics between those also in the market from the bears sets up beautifully for Jimmy Lady to sit back from last fifty. Bing. Something for everyone, the gentlemen thank you. Let's take a break now. More fray WAD coming up after. Welcome back to the Free Wide Cabanillas Sports, but we have a number of training partners, the very happy partner up with and soleman Marshall, one of these tiny government. We're going to have a chatroom tonight. Him On the lawn. I'll throw it to you might. Very excited about these two. We get champion trainer and premium try to their in Queensland Tony Goldwyn fresh off full wins. Yes, doing well done might. Thank you yeah good diet high flu? You can take that poem in the Senate is Big Strandberg well one day. Yeah, WE'RE GONNA indio runners Roy. NAM will stop. We'll Guy Reis book, older, Moen tiny rice, and you have the two runners, two and four advance warning, and also guiltier, I and the four year old gelding advanced warning seems to be the popular Wyatt five at this stage. Yeah Sixty really taking any preparation. He's Swansea. trippy attends to inform and then hauled form and. Of the golf coast, he was really good down there in the track he does go up and grabbed slightly, but he loves Acre Farm. He loves to distant competitor, little styling rice, but you can just saying getting lovely rounding ball, and what looks to be a competitive enough Tampa in the rice and I think he looks pretty hot debate. He's also on the good foucault. Why are you a bad behavior? As my, he loves big track you. Really Lost Farm. Forces because with truce craftsman stand profile that we need law, 'cause. You're always pretty confident going. They're going to do a job and he. He sort of fits that bill style track trip. He takes a lot of boxes and guiltier. Ruffy in this. Is My roll the dice on heavy track, and it didn't work out and. I don't really. Even in these he'll be competitive Iran certainly better than the Gulf coast. They'd be the second among pay rice. What number two advanced warning near the popular Wi with Tony Goldwyn. GotTa Rice seeks number nine Nasty P is a three year old gelding. We're in the thirty one dollars. REPUTA- Rafi but one of my three races back and then my good Granholm Ninety Cross last stop. I wasn't sure if that would be the right sort of form, they sorta rice, but I'm starting to later and I think it probably won't be bad. Rice I. Certainly say pressure in in these sort of twenty two hundred, and some of them are the host the Bainian Link Ninety. Cross brings that interesting factor where he'll go and make it a proper diet, trip and morals. Aren't signees of he's a good chance of winning at the thirty two one, but I've certainly having prepared. Replying exotic could easily same sneaking into. Apply I bet this trip. Obviously need to get a good God and I'm on track and leading into this. This got a good hat lungs for the twenty two. Gay Does trip wiring, you could run them on a half. Worries Air and he has at around. Eight will find me right quite quite good. There designed the adding side live off. Decent doesn't wear him. Track wiring, the the solid styling. Tampa that Oh, I think. We'll be on this more fond a few of these three year. Olds yeah, for the one humanity want people from. Knowing. Wholesale, moldable steel pea around the thirty one dollars. We Sports Bit Right now, folks. We gotta rip into some Group One, rising and the first that is races. He's rice seven. The Jiji Atkins for the two year. Olds I have a fourteen hundred meters. You have type also star Rosser in the field officer type of she's an outstanding filly chase. Stein Rafah. She was before that precise Dave Ross on return. What were your thoughts? Are probably a little bit. They are probably should've put arrive at the track on Tuesday. felt that would have been a benefit for her. Shed, a pretty good. She was a month between Twain runs. To take the seat that I and she presented, but she was going to win the rice Unfortunately, she just blew at line. She had a pretty good blog side. She was making grand for I think. She lost four eight hundred She's not fit for that. Run A couple of places to work on the proper sense have been really good and I think better affiliate again on Saturday Tony just. Sort of mentioned it. You had that twenty eight days off. Did you actually to offer a little bit because he runs absolutely busted the clock when we first saw, and then she came in and did it again. The next DOT was it a plane to sort of back off a with this rice in mind. Yeah it was a senator. The pedic food is on the treadmill, and even trawler in between I took it a Damon for you know Gallup between Rice. Wine as a trawl where coming out the guy's name more competitive, so the timing of the Charles didn't work for me. so I was a little bit on the Dan. Yan was a plan to back off and Roy I didn't WanNa to be first writing prayer, plus couldn't keep down every day. One hundred percent with or I had to get qualified then probably back off a little bit, then go for these two, and a it was called a little short, the other day but on the score fitness in where she's at now i. want decide that she can get. She looks real athletic top affiliate. She's drawn quite all good. And what about the seven films? But I need to worry too much. She's pretty relaxed, would affiliate she can? She can all along and sorta relaxing and give a good teak and much more. She actually still pulling grand off is not like that. It didn't look what she wouldn't get the trips. I think I'm not worried about the drawer you know yourself to do the start forty eight hundred and Eagle Farm and if you're a horse, got good guys paid and can put himself in position I. Don't think you already too much where you drawn matter of fact. I'm drawing to the to the Pisces Iran is. you say up on pice I'm happy to be pretty positive on Shane, and whatever sort of up in front of is going to be quite quick I'm happy to be posted on her and put her off the that's awesome. She's much these JJ. Atkins Ahah folks with talking to tiny. Golan style Ross. Cheese two, thousand, eight, hundred and fifty Gallup's could wins, and then she was tested over the four. So you know that she runs the trip, she sits on speed. Point a little bit clan or the funny. No, no one lay to one off there and there's a real track no i. what's the format of the rice has been? Linked undermining, he's actually probably lose forgotten in the JJ. The one the rise in the second always come in one pretty easy at the golf after that. Try Meeting so. I'm GonNa try and order a little a little bit of Calvin I'll be let and she's into this much better guy than what she's been rising against. Roy was a little bit of the state, so you'll say her in probably the third pair getting a chance to run on, but she'd be the second of mile of multi peaky, but certainly say running into place seven number seven nine type of picking the judge Atkins, let's have a look at the Strasbourg rice now group one level folding via one number fourteen outback Bobby Vega one started five at four dollars. In the late up and when you're disappointed. Not really not when the white paint a out Jimmy Spur Roy don't even. Sort of begun. Him and just try to jockey up the foreign sport and when he couldn't find that he was. GonNa do that only he just gets pulling on you and you just WanNa. Finish rises often that that's not the sort of horse that you're gonNA. Let him be where he wants to be. Try for that been a cover getting into good rhythm and relax, and he's to finish on your young. He's been writing IMOs preparation, and obviously Jimmy went under audience and get ready to write him at the white in the Bronx I. Think Wrong. Combination will be a lot better for that Ron. Needs to settle as fifty two kilos helps him in back. Bobby I remember winning. The magic in stood hundred. The million dollar is the she's had runs in. She's very good. What about her chances at beautiful? Yes she's been poor at Eagle Farm. But since I ran the track a little bit also to run when she run full was probably her best friend at Eagle, farm and she picked up. Same thing works being great. She worked on the coast proper a couple of times also, and she didn't really good shows on other shows sort of things. She's a Little Bit begotten he I think she's over the old and when fifty one back, she can run a rice. Peak in the Strasbourg you got full rides in the last. Can you help the panacea? Is the fiber that three dollars sixty. Eight gum perishable and probably stand at a marvel You know for hype obviously, but I think made off sugar boomer. The to sugar bone looks later in the NATO is going to get the raw. Ron Just right there behind. I've really hyper cheering them and they finding the finish, it would be fair. Tiny's the five and the rice, but the five pick of you'll floors dope at around that three dollars sixty MAC and she'll go boom around that dollar fifty miles tiny. Thanks for joining us on three one night. Cava this morning all the very best with your runners on the weekend. The very best from your team as we say goodbye for the punters. Tiny they joining US tried to get out of them. That was fantastic. CanNot tell you. This is one of the things down here at sports paper, the pilots who got the insults with these trading partners and guess what I stay after the break when we come back, we've got another one fee speak to. Can you believe that at the before we get to that bright? Let's have a look at. Look at Rice, non on the Carter Fiber. Here three dollars Akwa tiny dope. The Best of the full going run as we just spoke about it, three sixty bitter affliction, I don Shula by fifty ricotta those. How wonderful office at Sixteen Kavak at seventeen. Suk Win at twenty six August at thirty four. This is a big field. Say Tony Thirty. Four also boggled starbucks the rest steady far Josie I think he's GonNa. Be Plenty of speeding this rice. Wally, we listen to tiny. He said sugar boom will go forward. Nervously NATO obliged to roll forward as well getting back to his and made us go. We just can't get to twelve hundred meters Dan well. You would think that. It would set up for genuine spayed. Rice it. Does it up pretty well. But I thought Equa tying was really well-placed in this race last dot, it ran a really good sick, and behind for to who I have a big opinion of. It was half a second, so I'd stained at him. Still Eleven one, four, last, two, hundred, speaking it often going at quicken coming home I a really good asset hasn't made a Rice's where we want to say hasn't. Hasn't made a horse's these horses on the had to one go over one thousand natives, and it was a very good sick into spleen takes gain fast Ron. Rice, and it sickened up. He won second up. Laws prohibit canes are whereas in a slowly run rice, but they came home base laws four hundred loss, two hundred of the die. These sits up perfectly for Aquitaine. Can Be just on fade as well behind is pretty good. Tampa said boy, sugar, boom, or they dope and Aquitaine will fight it up with Aquitaine. She brings to how I make that Fatuzzo form should stand up and you think. Joel seems to be play and she gets a nausea. Run off these speed, the loss of sugar boom need dwarf going forward, but a whole set off watching and he's still working progress. He's Ruka and good to hear that he's ready to go through UPI first up. He drew wad dragging Baqi Iva rice and Ren Super and then lost out. If you watch, the replay, clipped heels buying. He was lucky not to full hour. Remember going back to devalue when he wanted and he was heavily, Beckmann diming variety of and got him into a NAS rhythm and settled well Dole on that occasion at Mooney Valley. And I'll just lock him during one. He's eleven dollar mark. Why with these hot, it sits up, perfectly formed to get some Cava and just relax stood up. Always being waiting. To get into the right side of thousand. Hod Speed in this right sits up the him at eleven dollars Shougang Google be tough to run bitter reflection. Good droll biggest test on, Piper, if you lock that holes and we spoke to Tony going as you may. As we remember, and they dopes ready to rock and roll, but Ruka, Eddie Lindahl Y. Day. The and we're GonNa take a break now when we come back stay, we're going to speak to another one of training. Pilots chat with Taibbi, admits He. would be this reward night. Kaba will say side. Welcome back to the free. No caveat now are we speaking to another one of training partners? We're going to have a chat or said Taibbi sexually treatments. We're going to be speaking to us. I'm very hard about these. Because they had some good runners here and some reward chances clearly the better half of team Edmonds. That's for sure Trent welcome to three one cover. We're wondering how. Greg saw a group one racing this weekend. Where there's. GONNA be Great. And dined. You're studies for show. Let's rip into your chances. This weight gain rice, wray number ten heritage sash. These holes round the eleven dollar mock these four year old man. She's hot. She's a good second up and she'd been pretty consistent since. Probably last. Roy with. A little bit who desired? A motorbike La dot stopped full. We ordering delayed. Took A. Bit a lot from. Pretoria space but To Festival. What if he can find out so late than That's probably fifty cents, but league saying do it again as you said that last win. Pretty good at the Gulf coast, but one thing sort of it's GonNa be. If Oil Counting Thrice, ray number ten around eleven dollars, looking to roll forward and get back into some form. Let's whip into rice for rice. Five number four Roy witness, four year, old gelding around that six dollar mark full behind the God of thunder and handle the truce. Good enough to win is lock this. Is and finally. Down during terrible both talent we've find. Your. Dealers and finally draws stopped the. Things seem to be lining up pretty well fame, so I'm going to be and Chocolate's been great. I need a little bit of luck and running. Get Sort of run which are shoot it just off the space, then come inviting going super and really happy that he's growing softer. Train that obviously he's the K. that really good guy. Because he was wide, no, he covered loss Dada was sort of a brutal run for him K also Thazan made his five wins at the distance. Is that sort of being a little bit of a play for these horse? Cool Nine hundred bit nippy for some of the speedy horses a reality. Today Authority stupid that you got it wrong. After we missed the sort of path length three quarter length, and that that made us now you find. A white gate factor spits them. You know and that's what happening full date. Still Phillip that just talking about in told. Some speaking nathe role witness to win the four eighty bag. Add six dollars now. Let's have a look Jura to chances in the groupon Jiji Atkins Rice seven on the program and. Wisdom award is absolutely fantastic on these retune very close to a why guy and you'd be very happy on his return to win. Two laid races to this group one. After School reporting hundred for the first time I've even done, but. Majority tomorrow forty hundred. Sort of cited rather than the Moscow say Join a little bit awkwardly. Good dates paid to sort of offset that and you know he's to be there for a long way, very classy cult. This is obviously grandfather. Okay so. On broke out. We find give any good to work, so he? Sold at the four nine really started boy. He's prospects. It'd be great if we could win it with A. Just on that the drinks cattle devil figure odds in the judge. I Atkins are actually locked in Robbie, Fred the opportunity to pick the Rod. Wisdom Award Probably Eric There's not a deal between them Probably has proven to be a little bit old brilliant notice. Book for eight. Hundred. I. Think Possible Concern Ridden studied by Brad Stuart and Every chance through good up to the line in front a strong thing. As Burger between him at higher and. Day, so we still have water has gotten natural. Spain and we'll roll forward. Left, but I do lot of the why. The drinks cat has been able to settling behind a hot speed and finish off. He's rises. Exactly and Done that by this on. Grandfather, guys. Sporting SORTA that we each couple of weeks behind him, ordering the, so he's. Trial nine. Hundred Eleven hundred, fifty, four, which he's. Probably, not by deal, but the right has been there You know they're having to say. You have a craft or twenty one dollars in from bad twenty-six theories. The drinks got was awarded around that six dollars. Chance in right seven. We're talking to Trent Edmonds He. Champion China's there on the go and also coins lanes right site. Ease the Strandberg. You've got to run his rice eight number six toys on a number seven winters, broad toys nine. Well, we knew he fleshed lost out with the fifty three kilos flesh diamond. He's laid up rice this year and he dropped off a kilo as he tracking full the. He's going to the elbow. I'm really Tom. Price! Of the towards since he ran behind training last year. Pity that he drew so long, He's back mockery. Whether that's a huge deal relevant I'm not sure. Get back. Just go to track something in the rice. It's going for the right time and he'll be two. When I Each flying so. Pretty confident that a really twenty change. Interesting because I found this map really tricky to sorta Doi where horses, we're GonNa, go obviously toys I know going back. I'm really interested in what plans are with winter broad. Do you roll forward or you're going to be a little bit neutral on on that host now? I think we'll be negative on earth pretty quickly. that's. How bolted on the way to the gates the other day so. This is good. Grants that live. Over. which when she was leading so. We may sort of really go to have. Everything does not want to be going forward on her. Must have been covered pretty quick. I'm just. Kind of relax Gutman. You'll be able to lawn. Desperately need cover. Food on. She was heavily backed fifteen to five fifty sitting duck this look for win abroad to take the toys on sixteen dollars each Cherry Rob. Can you split the for the owners for the strike trained? Look broad, promptly crispell at fourteen hundred. Each sorters doesn't get. Run pretty quickly, I'll say zone. Be. Marginally. Rice! The Sixth Dr Day Trauma Big Fan Fan of rice, knowing number one Ruka ever since he won at Moody Valley, I had my irony Mary Blake NATO in that Rice, too. But he's a working progresses cult because he can fire up I up, he was he drew wide. You dragged him back I have a rising and then last dot, a newly flail. He was lucky to stay up on his feet. Yeah. He's still thought to be. Permanently hasn't caught recaptured the form that he was in back in the spring as it did when he had A. But we feel good talent area. One is a class, but. It's not going to get up and get in. Get Out and get out of it for the right time. When? He's on not too story on the sort of free times and fell three times, but. GIVES THEM A goes. Lustig, ride and you know snakes racing cars money. Just around spooner aren't running really. Did happening at the right time and. Coughing. Run? Definitely! Focus trump bad. Travel Yeah. I'd like to be Fred. Goudin's just getting to relax. Get the big board of finish off tonight. have been thanks very much what you'll best for the weekend. I outta, those I'd probably. You know drawn South Rice, five number, four roll witness ran that six dollars sports bit now. Cyanide a dead Taibbi. Thanks for joining some three Wadden cover. That or enjoy that estate. Josie. You should feel pretty happy to Selfie so more drink Scott. You've taken drinks cat at twenty one box six dollars not early, not a walk between them, and you get an extra fifteen bucks. You do the Maths Julian Kimmel on. Let's let's have another rice on the COB WE'RE GONNA go to. Rice seeks now on the COD. To Seventy Suba John at three hundred ninety cross seven dollars misiones sacred thirteen as is Mariko path, empire, seven seventy dollars Nip, Change Choice Smart Meteo by twenty one man of seen at twenty three dollars and just society twenty seven dollars. Josie plenty of Spain. This race. I think wally I think navy cross goes forward. Super Join will go forward. He last doing that kind of stuff traduced. Nip Jarring choice who go I think going to be a genuine spayed this rice over twenty two hundred meters for the three year olds. Start with boy, favorite Martin to. Pretty good lost. Dot Did get bacon boy, super joint, but I think he could probably turn the tables one sickening so standard time that Rice. That's probably rice. You can follow as the fact that they've gone quick, is it maybe they're going to be a little bit flat off that run? That's what I was a little bit concerned. They lost four hundred lost. Two hundred was poor overall for the day I went with Madani Sacred Oh actually went with the Philly. Dan The bottom here. I really lucky his horses profile three runs a guy who very good at you know moderately run rice heavily supported and into fourteen and lot. Was Three Ninety. Three forty, so the market's trending towards these. And then lost dot well. It was on a really wet track. It was hot in the market and ran seeks six dollars fifty, but it was off thirty three days, so I think it was being a play for these racing mon to have a bit of a break thirty three days, and now two weeks into this rice sits up beautifully gets to two thousand two hundred meters. It's had three guys beyond two thousand meters for two wins. Anna food our ECHINACEA. It's dry. Two Thousand Mehta's plus misiones. Sacred H. Y. GonNa. Run A big race for your reckon I'm looking for dead set style that can control this and then Sean. We'll pull the pressure on Iran. That's seven. Hundred made a mockery. and. It's ninety cross when the. Of Major I can every time i. hear a lot a lot. He's Gallup outlast dot I've the twenty two hundred meters, so he stays it the trip. He rose up on speed and be mocking randy. Waterhouse bought trying new source, and he's at progress divorce further. The better Mike this dead staying. TRIP ballistic boy gets back from guide twelve and thought that Super John will have to work from guide eleven to gallon joining him, so he's going to burn a little bit of petrol early and then Matt grumpy. wholesale side needs a little bit of Cava from knowing Mac I want to get that Roy. Moore ACOPIA. Pronounced his name. Jesus for slowed, which had about is in good form, they always, but also gets back. So I'm looking for ninety crossed open them up and guy. Bank very good I'm that wasn't may for once. They were going to take a break. When we come back. Of course, we ran the country. Welcome back. Fray Juan base part of the shy this. We get you your winners from around the country. JOSIE THE WEST RICE TO NUMBER THREE MR delegation had a bit of time off on Ebou running to a really Nice Horse in cliffs of Comfort, which is then going on into town and one two very impressively. It's a she can follow. Mr Delegation. They went out. really really fast records for second hand, so I'd stand into tone, but they came home best four hundred loss two hundred. It was a really good rice. First daughters there on debut and have to be really really good to Mr delegator. Pretty Kane on these horse. Nearly two in the Josie in are ought. We're going to destroy up. We are and. Number two Lombardo blink is go on first time it's. On debut which I think was at Bendigo was short prose fiber. It was heavily supported which we first daughters, and it went three quarters of a second solid standing. Tom, which is great, bought lost. Four hundred loss two hundred was the best of the Diet. We talk about it a lot. Is the go fast fast, genuine good animals. It didn't win to where be on a sticky track was thirty five five. It's the market wanted to play with it so again. Just. Give that just in work at the track. And then it went to Flemington and a pretty good fourth behind Rocco, best Koran or really slowly run rice. and. He came home pretty good. One hundred loss two hundred was pretty good. These sits up really good flown data. I'm pretty. I think it's going to make it a genuine in the future and our economic winning over there. Are you alluding to that being your best for the day clearly when the same rice back a whole one. At Bella rat on a heavy ten. And the third came month, and then run into debt and deficit, and Bay Hunter, and was only two point three links aftermath of leading the way Flemington. It's can start a. Rhetorical question. It's looting I'm alluding. To alluding in rice for number three. Cornell. I. Love, that. It's it's head up north to the Sun Sean stike. Josie rights to number. Four stocks are gone. Small field sets up really well. This whole was broken. Eleven seconds lost two hundred lost out of the Goa coast and I think it's going to be Safron rice again I'm these holes in the reds? You can get black figures about so on. I think you're shopping. Really well are no US horse in should be winning. Socks up on that one Jamie Lady. I'm going with Rice far. Number three spoke about these schools chances back on the pint borrow stolen no dead white on these last fifty bang. Sydney Sydney in the loss, but it's not the loss because it's right. It's right site number. Seven five stars and records based in fast run rises in the skyline cap. It was a really slowly run race. Probably didn't suited that much, but I think nail bomb and goes on three royds on this horse faced for a first second third, so he gets on really well with it. It's a heavy, no one up at the moment air at Sydney, but really good drawing conditions just be worried about that. Whole Diet is a few horses that have five or top in Sydney that are coming off really wet track performances, and that was their pay performances. Careful. Vice Burning Crown from me rice five number five. You buy men to have a big day. He wrote Z.. So's epic. Dan then one knicks dot, and then fan hot benchmark seventy dirty work one that rice day. Just and it was only three point six links that really good form, so the track day. It doesn't matter if it's a self seven. Hubei from guide seven I'm expecting burning grand to be winning at Randwick. We go to a place code of Flemington Rice knowing number ten. Wow, vicks and blink his first time. He Starts WanNa listed rice in Adelaide. It was a brilliant performance. Then I backed off the so what's had twenty days off? I thought it was okay. Last up behind Chevrolet faster on rice and now two weeks between runs. I love that sort of setup for these organs set play while Vixen H. Y. is a great bit a bit of ground swell from Assefa goals and he's playing waiting to get to a trip. He was the only catch up last dot in gets after the twenty five and twenty meters at Flemington Greg Williams from. Chris Walla up ready to guy estee while we gotcha quality. Let's have a look at the applying at Eagle Farm. So, let's have a crack in the first rice day. Right sixties the rough habit plate. We've taken one three four eleven and fifteen and we've got most of the five or ten. The judge Skains Ri- seven, one three five. Four and seventeen more blow Adeniran. That's the drinks cotton number five and the stretch Brooke as a strategy. We've got five, six, six, seven nine and. A three year olds expected to dominate there and in the last rites we've gotTa have Ruka in the top white Nicole. We've got better reflection. Equa Tyne and also sugar boom. They go stain. You get thirty percent for one hundred on investment, but it could be plenty or take them on this week. We have an. Arroyo. Let's take. blacklock how you doing wall, Salah Back Field Back here. On. Saturday are like rice, three number three FLEMINGTON. Good, luck! responsibly. Love it straight to the point. It's a fresh challenge from Hamas. Boss wake came in the gliding. Does he go to wind up back in your box? And taking him on their fling with Harland Jack Best of Gamba responsive. We having a punt gentlemen, thank you as always. Thanks to our trading partners have a great weekend, and as we'll say Nixon. Air.

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Loni Lost Love

The Dignified Bastard

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Loni Lost Love

"Piece all the beautiful people on the planet this David the, uncrowned king promoting my podcast dignified bastard. Now that naming itself is an oxymoron because I'm sure many of you out there have never encountered a dignified bastard. Well, you're welcome. We're GONNA be talking about everything for movie with us to current events to album reviews, classic albums, and all that other crazy stuff that kind of goals around the globe when the day-to-day basis nothing is really off table here I'm going to really try to not step on anybody's toes, but that's GonNa be Kinda hard because I have verb feet. Psych our asked ten. Anyway. Thank you for plugging in Tony in into the dignified bastard podcast in advance because I know that you guys going support and I know that you're just GonNa be so eager to listen to me sit in my underwear base. Peace Peace. Beautiful. People in welcome to another episode of the dignify Bastard Podcast I'm David Crowned King. Thanks for listening. Thanks for tuning in the beautiful thing about all this is. I can do this. You can't see me I can't see you. You might be naked right now you might be. But. I also could be naked drinking coffee. You know what I mean with some Slip Resolve. And that's not a confession by the way I'm just saying that those are some of the possibility but I do I do have a bit of confession Anybody. That knows me not them a real big hip hop fan right like I love hip hop I was immersed in that. Culture of coming up in the nineties you know. So it's a huge part of my upbringing A. it's a huge part as to why I, think I'm as cultured as I am if I if I may to more to to. You know but I got a confession. In Actually You know this is going to surprise a lot of people that know me right 'cause you know a little bit bag run. I was born in the great state of Louisiana shot out to Louisiana Down Right. But. Being. From Louisiana and spinning the first thirteen. Years of my life down there. And constantly going back still having family down there being very tidy connected to that culture down there. I've never. I just want to make this clear. is now because of you know. Me Now. But I've never listened to a little busey album. I've never done it. You know anthem. and. Building up the confidence to. Listen to. Some little Busey, I'm getting there. You know what I mean I haven't. You know I think white meat down as far as. I made it. You know I was with about ten years ago I think white me down was maybe I'm not sure. but you know I was there for the blame fling masterpiece appear you know I was there for let You know so. You know don't don't throw to mini rocks at me. You know I've never I've never really had the desire. To listen a little busey in the reason why I bring up little Busey. Is because you know he just got into a little bit of an issue because he was wearing a cap of shirt. I think he had on. The red with the letters. From. The kappa. Fraternity, right. I'm not a fraternity guy. So you know I don't know anything about that. But you know he was getting into a little bit of a a beef. I guess. Online because you know people were saying, Hey, take that sweater off. You know you're not a part of that culture. than. It ended I you know chace was Fi. I, get it I get it. You know 'cause. On the one hand. You got you got somebody who hasn't pledged right and as far as what I know that's like a big deal that would be the equivalent. Of A. See Walking. You know on a competent black. In the crypts whatever you know what I mean like. You know if please forgive me if I'm reaching but. I think that's the equivalent right? Ally You know. Sewing. Up at a Shaolin Temple dressed like a month and you know you don't speak Chinese or whatever you know what I mean like. Nobody, should do to. Way. But. Bussi. Bussi fire some shots back. He said, Hey, you know what? I WANNA wear. You know. Basically Damn. y'All John Kiss. My Ass. As basically what Busey said. In. I saw follow of video with. A. Brother. Shout brother be next and a Dallas I believe I detector somewhere. But. The next said you know it was good that? Busey made another video saying hey. You guys. Do you little I think the dance, they do the little routine called the Shimmy. You know. They do that they perform that to white me down. So we say, Hey If you guys. Or going to. You know get on my back jump on my back from wearing the sweater an APP pleasant or whatever. Not, being a member of that fraternity. The least you can do is show me. How to do the semi now that was you know that's pretty though because you know. You know how things could have. Gone. In particular situation, you know what I mean it could have got ugly. You know and there were a couple of words. Couple of shots fired but nothing too serious. But you know finally he came back you know say hey. If. You guys don't want me to wear a sweater and you're gonNA continue to your little routine to my song the least you can do. Right the least you can do. Is. Show. Me How to do the song I mean do do the dance the shaming You know. So I thought that was pretty dope. But. Let me just say this. Going back to my original statement, my original confession I'm don't really try. To listen to some, Busey, may I just you know NASA anything about the brother? You know what I mean? The mall of success in the world I just you know just never really was a Busey guy man never really had the desire to really listen to his museum line like I. Say I know white me now. You know from you know being in clubs and stuff back in the day but that's about it. You know. Just never. Really. He wasn't on my radar you know. But You know it is what it is but Excuse me one of the interesting things. About doing these podcasts is that we can. pull material or subject matter topics from social media. You know twitter facebook instagram you to have you have you. So that's what we tend to do a lot. You know as podcasters. And Along with the little busey story. I saw something on twitter that. Kinda raised my eyebrows a little bit mainly raise my eyebrows. It was the Lonnie. Love comments. I believe she made these comments yesterday on her talk show the real that she does like a man seals. what is it? To me. Maori you know one of the girls from sister sister. And mother you know young ladies of whatever show. GotTa be Honest Confession I. Have Never watched it. I've. Caught snippets. But I've never never had the desire to watch it. But. I saw these comments you know. And You know unlike a lot of people. You know All social media. That shows to Leija's. ripper apart. I just Kinda. WanNa take. Take a look. Unpacked, was she saying you know? And Examine you know where these comments might have come from you know because. She made a lot of strong statements. She ruffled feathers. In of course. There are some people who Greed in they disagreed you know but we just going going to play a little bit of it. All right. We'll play a little bit of what she says. We can put. All right. All right. Here we go. Do Think. They really don't know how. Faithful relationships. Because they have money because they have Howard that they can shrink. The WARTBURG. Because what is happening is that still doing with? Slavery. Slavery. Broken up. Leeann. All right. Well. Money love is basically saying that Black man dogs. Keno in that, we really don't have an idea Know. How faithful in relationships? Okay. She she prefaces the comments by saying you know. Well. I don't speak for the black community wellness love. Let's say this. when you? Begin. A. tarry. The way you you know beginning by prefacing. You're following statements with. I don't speak for the black community. By default. You automatically speak for the entire black community you know. It is what it is. You know what I mean and you have. That kind of platform. Okay. You have that kind of platform and you begin a statement like that. I'm sorry you already in the mix, you already become the mouthpiece for the entire black community by default whether you intend to do. You know it just it is what it is. You know what I mean you've gotta deal with it. Now she said that. I don't think a lot of black men really know how to have true faith relationships and then she goes on to say they think that because they have money because they have power that they can treat women any kind of way, and that is something that we need to work on period. Okay. This is the problem. You know this is the problem. One of the many problems that we have with the blackmail black female dynamic. Okay. But. You know I was taught to be a very good listener. Not me growing up down south. We have these colorful colorful colloquialisms about damn near everything you know and your grandmother. Uncle Auntie somebody has probably told you if you from the south that you need to. Shut up and listen more ask the reason why you have to ears and one mouth. Now. Me Mice Mart asked again hearing when I was a kid you know used to be like well, I can't eat through my ears ain't that the purpose of. You know of course. I. Never said this out loud because I probably would have got slapped into next week you know so. Chill, just thinking in that speaking anyway. She says money and power does not mean that you can just do whatever you want to do. That is a very peculiar statement because in the system of. Patriarchy. Imperialism colonization where white powerful men. Exuded power and control. These are some of the attributes dead they portrayed. They exhibited those attributes and since we are closely connected to that community. What do you think is going to happen if I have a cold? In the room with people who have code constantly and I'm. Coughing. and. Sneezing. Touching Shit. Without putting hand sanitizer on a washing my hands. Okay. Eventually, I'm going to. Infect, those are the people in that room with my germs bacteria. And this is what has happened to our community. I think. that. Being in contact with people who exhibit some of these behaviors that we test and that we hate we became just like them. We became carbon copies of them. Now I know this is stretch for a lot of people here. Okay. But the truth is the truth. Now you have two types of truth you know. This is what I've learned. You have an absolute truth and you have a relative truth now an absolute truth. Is GonNa work all around the board all across the world. It doesn't matter. The circumstance is just GonNa work. If you throw something is usually gonna come back now that's an absolute truth. Okay. Now a relative truth. Is. Fill up a balloon with helium. And I let it go usually things that. Come back down but at balloon is obviously not going to come back down. Right away. Until you get popped or the helium runs out. Okay. So that whole thing about something being thrown up and coming right back now. Does not. Work in that instance which makes that relative shoes if you can understand hope I explained it correctly but. She goes on to you know say, well, it's is because Now. We are still dealing with the point of slavery and we are the descendants of slavery. Okay Here she is again. Making A. Very General. You know point. Okay and she's brushing with. A. Very. Large Brush. He's taking some broad strokes. World she's damages throwing paint on the canvas. Okay and this is the issue. This is the issue because. You have women who have these platforms. Point. They make it a point. To. Vocally, bash black men. You know as if this is somehow going to help the situation now. Miss. Lonnie love is seems to me. That you've been hurt. And he wasn't hurt by earl the ups guy it seems like you would hurt by somebody in Hollywood because you said money power does not mean that you can just do whatever you want to do. There's not a lot of brothers out here. You know. WHO HAVE MONEY AND POWER You know who just dog and women you know by the hundreds. You know that's just not happening. That is very unrealistic is natural. You know. So it sounds to me like, Ms Lonnie love or should we call her Lonnie loss? Love you know what I mean? Has Been Hurt by a brother in Hollywood who did wrong now? Could it be that you? Just made she a bad decision. As we do. This part of human. Existence is part of our characteristics. As humans we make bad decisions sometimes. I. Think. That's what happened. You ran into a guy. You feel form your kicked four little while things didn't work out maybe he cheated maybe he tweeted juwan fairly maybe he verbally abuse I'm not. I'm not sure what the details are and I'm not. You know speculating I'm just saying Iran to somebody. who wasn't a person for? You know there were some. -bility issues. Okay and I think when this happens. WOMEN WHO decided to say, well, you know black man ain't shit. As light. Okay. All right. Got Hurt by let's say three guys. Now all of a sudden. The entire. You know droves. The entire butch the entire crop. Black Man. Ain't you got a problem with that. I really do because once again we're neglecting and we're negating the fact that we live within a system. That is already been put in place. There was not conducive to what I. Traditional ancestoral traditions were okay. Now. There's been arguments back and forth there been discussions about polygamy as far as Africans are concerned, you know Dating. Back to the days of you know came for Egypt and whatnot and whatnot? Nubia Kush Via You know west African traditions and whatnot. But. I'm not going to go there right now. Okay. Because we know that we should know that polygamy is cultural. You know and a lot of times over. There's well, there were a lot of arranged marriages but they married for different reasons. These were entire families there were coming together. Okay. One family might say, Hey, you know we have an acre of land. That, you have a multitude of Goat's. Wouldn't it be wise for us to get together your goats in grays off the land we can eat some of those goats. Everybody's happy full you getting along your daughter can marry my son and boom. We got one big. Happy. Family village. But over here, you know things were a little different. You know things didn't work out that way. Do you know families were broken. You know there was a lot of illegitimate kids out there. You know whatever I. Wouldn't the presidents? Thomas Jefferson you know had a a slave. By the name of Sally Hymning you know what I mean so. You know slavery was a multi layered. System, it was. It was a lot of things going on that damaged be no the family fabric of black folks in America. You know. So to nail it down. Completely. The idea that money and power does not mean that you can do whatever you want to do. To Black Man, just not knowing how to be faithful. In relationships. I. Think it's total bullshit I really do. You know I think she really dropped the ball and. This is another fine example of. Business. Our in house business being put out into the streets. You know she's she's taking her platform. She's taken her opportunity to get some views some likes you know whatever caused a little static. You know put all of that out onto the streets. And stuff like this ways on the psyche of people you know because we have a very. Rich. A very authentic. Colts a rule. You. Know. Experience that we should be, we should be celebrating. Okay we should be celebrating everything that we are. Everything that we've done. You know the achievements of our ancestors, the achievements that were making now. All of this should be celebrated. Right now this that be the focus this should. This should not lord over the top of everything you know that we've done as a community they should. You. Know you've made some bad decisions based on whatever you know. And it is what it is. This is. Why you just can't. Say What you want when you want. You know every idea that I've had. Said them verbally. I'd probably be dead man right now. You know what I mean. I wouldn't have made it this far life. Really you know. You just can't. I don't think that's a wise idea. You know why have a camera in front of me? Have Thousands of people listening viewing right now. So guess what I'm going say this. This is that. You know the the comment that Cayenne made about George Bush during hurricane. Katrina. That's different. That's that needed to be said somebody needs to say that. You know so. This is not bad. You know like I said this is. An opportunity for her? To keep her personal feelings about. The hurt that she has gotten in relationships out of the public view. Okay now, if you WanNa talk about the black man and the black woman as far as the family dynamic concern on a bigger platform like the real great do that. But don't chop brothers Bam simply because you've been hurt by somebody with some money muscle mighty with some power. Okay because that's not the majority of us. Now. True be told and the truth should always be told there are some guys some brothers out here they trash. They trash she you know what I'm saying that's that's kind of what it is. Any chance that they can get to hurt a woman they're going to do. Because of whatever? Reasons, but you can't nail it down to you know man black man. They really. Don't know how to have true faithful relationships answer related to slavery. No Lonnie you just. You can't do that. Now, I can see the very loose correlation I can see the very loose connection. But to completely disregard all of the factors. That's a big. No no, that's a big. No No. You know. You would think that somebody you know with. Somebody would that kind of platform who's been afforded that type of opportunity would know a little bit better but see once again, we have to look at the we have to look at the setup you know what I mean don't just look at the knockout blow look at the Footwork Look The jab liquid, the placement of the punch you know what I'm saying she's on a panel with other quote unquote women of Color. You know. Thing one is Latino when his as in you know so. There representing A. MOTOWN. Dynamic. Okay. So you know the poor lowly. Sister you know is there for way she? She's there for the comic relief she's you know Lonnie love a comedian. You know. So she's witty. She's snappy. She's funny. You know what I mean so. When she made the statements you know now this is not this is no longer funny. This is no longer being funny. This is her being you know. The Voice of Truth Voice, of reason Olis' listen to the black woman because you know. She has to be so many things. So what she's saying is going to hit a little bit different same thing with Whoopi Goldberg on that show with those older you know white women. Same thing she's usually saying the smart snappy. Comedic stuff but every now and then she spits a little vitriol. You know they all looking at her like. You know what I mean right there. So you know overwhelmed. In those moments and I think this was one of those moments for Lonnie. A man seals and she's you know being like her hype. Her high woman in the background. You know. And I'm not and this is not to say. that. You know she didn't. She didn't make a good point. Okay. This is not to say that I'm not saying that she didn't make a good point but. When you make it so absolute. Would you make it so Direct You know. You're almost is if you're excluding everything else. You know I mean Amanda d attractive. Jumping there and say you know something about welfare reform and You know. Set the sixties and seventies you know and how different things played into the hand of the black family dynamic be broken apart dust leading men being a little. Way As far as their dealings with their families women but. She completely you know. took the reins back from Amanda. When she tried to you know she tried to take reins and she you know she fodder and she got him back and she said, well. No started talking about Kevin Hart his cheating. Joe Button some light, and I'm like. Once. Again. You know. You're you're making some very bad. You're using some bad examples either not your average everyday people. Okay. Kevin Kevin Hart's life much different from mine I notice hard to believe. Because from the sound of my voice, you would think that I'm living in the lap of luxury. You really would. You would think that I'm having a great time of life. I took my wife and my family to Italy a few weeks ago you know wrote a hot air balloon you know in all this fantastic stuff but that's just not the case you know the average. Black Person America's is not living the life of Kevin Hart not even the life of a job bud. Okay. So for her to use these guys examples, I, think. It's Kinda Shitty I really do you know what I mean? I think that she really needs to. You know. Just. Think before she speaks. In that make a blanket statement like that. You know. Scoop. She doesn't need that she doesn't even do that. You know. She did. Troop. She did speak some true. You know and to say that she you know she completely went off the grid. I'm not GONNA do that. She did big some true but. Her tactics. You know hurts her tactics were way way off and of course, those platforms and those Opportunities do not afford anybody to have statistics in front of them. You know books and you know all this Dan are they don't have charts and you know graphics that they can use and stuff like that but it's like come on. Come on you gotta you gotTa do a little better. You GotTa do better. You know. Somebody's coffee again. And I ain't gonNA. Are. Nice looking woman. She's you know she's A. BB W she's very voluptuous. And You know she's a drag that she's an attractive woman you know so. For her to kind of you know jump out the window liked. These statements. Come on man. But Hey you know. Once, again. She's doing. She's doing the dance for. Him. An industry that is controlled by you know, Caucasians? So. This is This is her attempt. Or this is this is her chance to you know. I guess even the playing field a little bit. You know because criticism from our. Caucasian counterparts. We know that there that's going to constantly be they're not going anywhere. Okay, and they can claim ignorance see that's the beauty. Of White Privilege and of being white in America you can. Well I had no idea you know. You can always say. I didn't I didn't know I didn't know you know but. US. You know we don't. We don't get that luxury. You know she doesn't get the luxury of making comments like that, and then coming back and saying, well, you know, I, don't think it was a big deal. You know I didn't know and once again, this is the problem with Aaron dirty out in public. Aaron our dirty laundry out in public. You know. Do you remember growing up. And having your mother or your grandmother your on t tell you. Hey. What happens in this house stays in his house because everybody in the streets everybody in the neighborhood, they don't need to know your business. You know but you know we live in a different time. Now we live in a much different time. Everybody is into everybody's business and they have an opinion about it. You know you just you're not going to be stop people from having opinion about. Shit that don't even concern though. You know. So it's a double list war. It cuts both ways and it really really sucks. Because the things that we should be concerned about the things that we should be concerned with. We're not. Okay and they know this. Laughed, episode spoke about that Pyramid, of Control I spoke about that period of power and you know Lonnie love she she is a puppet for one of the layers of that pyramid. She's a puppet for for media. That's what the real is. A form of media is an extension of the media machine is a tentacle. On that monster, okay that Meteo Monster you know with tentacles that go in all kinds of directions. She's in there. She's in there. This is what she does for a living. On that show. You know. Because I can't tell you. Even though she's a comedian. I can't repeat to you one lana loves. I. That say she's now funny but I know her. From being on the real. You know and isn't it ironic? The name the showed the real really. What's so real about it? You know what? So real about it? Already to already do is talk about. Celebrity guys of this data at third and it's like. That's no real. The the majority of Americans that celebrities that's a very smart people. You know, but we make them larger than life. We give them these platforms we give them These grandiose stages and we treat them like Superhero. We really do you know When there's a teacher in a public school in Detroit data is working with students who you know. Probably coming to school hungry. Came really you need. You know clothes are dirty and she still encouraging them that they can do it. Those are the real superhero. The real super. You know because that's the teacher may know the truth about what black men and black I'm sorry. Black boys and black girls are facing. You know coming down the line and she still encouraging them. Okay. She. Doesn't she? She's not thinking tour of. Little Jabari is going to grow up and get money and power cheat on his wife or his girlfriend and treating any kind of way he wants to. Know She's not she's not doing. Because She's more concerned about him being a productive member of society. And if little, Jabari does somehow acquire money and power and he decided to cheaper cheat on his wife or girlfriend that has nothing to do with black men not knowing how to be faithful or truthful relationships that means Little Jabari's as it's made a bad decision. Simple simple as that he made a bad choice. In. It's So necessary that we get out of the mindset of accepting. You know things like this. This is this is where this is kind of like an extension. You know this is a branch. You know or leave off their branch of toxic masculinity now bullshit. Okay. That's what this is. You know when when we accepted that. When when when the first person to coin phrase? Coined it. People started repeating it. It was over. It was over. Because nobody's saying, Hey, you know. These are just some people. Some guys making some bad decisions Nobody's saying that. Everybody was quick to say types of masculinity. This is toxic masculinity. Okay. Let's. Let's. Let's look at his whole thing. Because there once was a time. I'm old enough to remember this. There was a time when. All you would see on TV were these cop shows Hunter Magnum Pi T. J hooker. You know. He will see all these shows like Miami. Vice Okay. where These these men were doing macho things that were being cops they were you know taking down drug dealers, they were you know sex in. Beautiful attractive women they were driving fancy cars dressing nice clothes. Okay there was getting shot at and they were doing some shooting you know back at the perpetrator and. Nobody wants nobody wants popped up and say, Hey. Their behavior is toxic. This must be toxic masculinity because they were falling in line with the status quo that had already been set in place, which is that why guys with guns? Are The Poster boys for Masculinity in America. The poster boy for being might show in everything heterosexual for men. You know. I don't care what kind of man you were. They were the poster boys. They were the models. For Masculinity. So if you were Latino kid if you were a black kid. You need to be modeling yourself after William Shatner or Tom Celik David Hasselhoff somebody you know saying Don Johnson. You know, of course, Philip Michael Thomas was on that show as well but you know. You know the hip black guy that would say some cool shit from time to time in every nine, and then he might get him a little trim. You. Know for the most part for a long time in entertainment. The model for masculinity were white guys period. And I don't recall anybody ever saying that. Hey. What they're doing for the behavior that they're exhibiting. Is Toxic. This is toxic masculinity. Nobody ever said that. Okay. But we don't look at things through a historical Lens. It constricts out view. Okay. We don't get a wider. Picture you know it's kind of like. You had a smaller TV. He was watching the basketball name you really CONC- Michael Jordan on the other end of the court plan defense you know. But when you got bigger TV, you can see the entire court you see Michael Jordan. Scottie Pippen Toni Kukoc folks you can see bill car, right you can see Horace Grant. You can see the whole squad on the floor at the same time, but we are still looking at these issues through very small scope. And it's hurting us. Because supposedly this is twenty twenty and when what is twenty twenty right is is is Vision is great vision but if the great vision can only focus on one damn thing, you might as well be blind. You might as well be blind if you got twenty twenty and you can't focus, you gotta be able to focus. And, focusing on the wrong thing will only make that particular thing grow and expand you're going to magnify. Okay Wherever your attention goals. That's where energy flow. Wherever your attention goes. That's where energy flows wherever you pay attention to. Is it going to get larger? Is going to get. Larger. In it's just how it is. You know. So we're giving all this attention to the issue of. The comments that Lonnie love me. Okay. So. The backlash is already started. She's getting ripped apart on twitter. You know she'll probably come back in and have a rebuttal statement or make an apology. Okay. But once again. You know. She already put those words into the either we noted this is how she feels. You know I've even seen some pictures on the Internet of her some White Guy and he's supposed to be like your boyfriend or whatever. Okay. So. You got cheated on. You got dumped power with so what it happens. There are some things that are directly linked to slavery in some some things that are just not. Just not linked. So for you to make. Dan Loose Connection Miss Love. was a very poor thing to do in front of the entire world. But Hey. If I had the platform, I would probably say some things that a lot of people would disagree with as well. You have to speak your truth now your truth. Your particular exclusive truth. You know and in a roundabout way. I'm sure. Has You. Know maybe. One iota to do slavery as a whole. But if you, WANNA. Make that connection. Hey, by all means. But like I said. You ran into a cat. Who did you dirty? As they tended to. Okay But it is what it is. Some Gaza trash he are. You know. Some guys attract. I'm not GonNa Bash Women. I'M NOT GONNA get into the whole women do this. I'M NOT GONNA I'm not GonNa do that I'm not gonNA fall into that trap. But what I'm saying is people people people make some bad decisions and as a result of those bad decisions, other people get hurt. That's it. That's with most of your interactions nowadays. And you can even. Relate that to other things besides relationships. Driving. Assault, cases. You know. Just. Everyday life. People make bad decisions and as a result of those bad decisions sometimes usually. Someone else gets hurt. That ain't because money and power. because. Money and power. Me? A certain someone. assassinate. Another certain someone on the third of this month and as a result of that, there's an impending war by the happen but You. Know. Black, men are not concerned with being truthful. Relationships. That's the bigger. Of course. and. I can go on and on but who cares? You know it is what it is. It is what it is and this is. Once again this is the beauty. And the ugliness of being a podcast there you know I, try to sift through you know the bullshit and find things that I can really sink my teeth into and you know unpacking unsealed and. Make some connections and you know Kinda do in a in in an entertaining kind of way. You know because that's really that's really what it is. You know I did this podcast to inform and entertain, and you know educate a little bit but stuff like this is really disheartening. because. In the words look. A little. Worse a big creek. I got love from my people. Love Me. You know I promote black culture, I love black coacher the black experience is. Bar, none. You know the best thing to me. You know and I'm not putting anybody else down but. That's just how. I will argue with you for straight twenty four hours about that. Will. You know. So when I have. When there's somebody who? Takes a platform like that of a celebrity and says something that's really obtuse. You know a little tight about that my hold on. Oh Hold Up. You're not gonNa tell me they have black men and have a issue with being truthful and relationship truthful and faithful in relationships when. James Evans stuck it out with you know Florida Evans on good times in her fro was never as the never. Never. You know. She wouldn't beauty queen and then he had financed alone coming over every day and he ain't smash her you. You know what I mean. I know he wanted to but he didn't. You know he stuck it out with old. No EDGE OF HAVING FLORIDA EVANS You know because he was a stand up guy. Not GonNa tell me that black men have a problem with being truthful and faithful in relationships when Leicester? Offer to seven. Stuck it out with mayor and he tried to Smash Finance Jackie. Sorry? Sandra. who was living in the same building? You're not gonNa tell me that. You're not going to do. You're not gonNa tell me that black men have an issue with being truthful and faithful in relationships when Carl winslow. Didn't step out on Helen. And smashed her sister who was living in the same house with them. You're not gonNA, you're not gonNa tell me that. You are not going to tell me that. Not GonNa. Tell me that black men have an issue or cannot be truthful and pay for in relationships when Wayne. dwayne Wayne. Didn't step out on Whitley. Smash Freddie or Freddie had phone the entire time she was they're. Not, GonNa tell me that. Of course these people all characters these these we will not real people, but they are representations of some real people. And the reason why these representations meant so much to us because they projected the type of behavior, the type of lifestyle that we wanted to emulate. James Florida. Evans. DID NOT HAVE A. Productive Environment that they live in. Lynch. South side of Chicago you know in the cabrini-green housing projects. In the seventies, shit was bad out there. You know. But. They stuck it out together. Mary Lester from two to seven lived in the Berry farms community in Washington DC. Out The DC. And things would net. You know great there as well, but they stuck it out together. They stuck it out. Carl winslow. was a black cab. That should gotTA BE HARD BY ITSELF He was a black COP raising a family. Okay. Where he had a black son as his oldest child. And I think they weren't in Chicago as well from that mistake. And even had to deal with racism on the force. That was a very real issue a heat in step out there on Helen. They stuck it out together. So. Where is this coming from lining? Miss Lonnie loss love. Where's this coming from? This is coming from the fact that you got a brother. Who did you dirty? And now everybody has to feel your. They have to you have to express that hurt everybody else has to participate and agree with you and that Ms Love. Is the very definition. Projecting you're hurt. On everybody else and you're having your own, you invited all those people to your pity party. showed up. You dance the JIG. Dance? The? JIG So you are living. The life of a celebrity, you earn join the fruits of your, you know entertainment Labor, and that's great. But at the same time regular people like myself. Regular. But you know I'm not celebrity Najeh. You. Know I. Don't I don't get that opportunity. People everyday working class people we don't we don't have. We don't. We're not afforded that opportunity. We can't get. Of people to bask in our pain does. You know we find a way to make it. We find a way to deal with it. We don't blame it on slavery. Okay. Because believe in that. You know. Everything not because of slavery. Different Times different conditions. You know. Far, be for me to downplay slavery I'm not going to do that but. I will say this. Slavery had a lot to do with money. So taking. A. Big Black Buck. And separating him from his family so he can impregnate. Another. Female, sleigh. On another plantation seem pretty lucrative to a slave master. They didn't CARE ANYTHING ABOUT Him having wife and two kids. The conditions were different. His family values meant nothing. To to. Slave masters. Didn't mean anything. His family dynamic, his generational trauma that will come as a result of their family being broken apart didn't mean nothing to. CARE less. Could care less. because. Those oppressive bastards. Were so devious that sometimes that would happen as a result of the slave owner wanting a piece of. The. Black. Man's woman anyway. Okay So. There you have. There is Patriarchy at its finest. It was working in favor of white men rich powerful white men. So Blackman saw that subconsciously said to themselves that. Hey. I'm a man. I, got a penis. About a nice penis. I WANNA. Share with. Whoever I can whenever I can. Means Absolutely Batman as far as black man not wanting to be truthful faithful in relationships. emmys that he has made a bad decision based off of what he saw what he learned, what he put into practice. Now, if other men WANNA put that same behavior into practice as well. So be this is still a choice driven life. You're going to either die. Or live based upon the choices that you make. So, if you are here and you kicking it with brothers who make bad decisions that has little to nothing to do with some conditions four hundred years ago. They had no control over. And once again, I am not downplaying slavery or anything like I'm not now playing women being you know ran around on anything like that but we have to be real about these things. We have to get back down to personal decision making we have to give back down to responsibility you have to own up to shit. You gotta own up to your Shit. Now. With that being said. I said this this entire system. Was a system that was put in place that we were born into now history and generational trauma does play into it. But. We as a community haven't taken a long enough look at ourselves we have input ourselves under the microscope. We have. And we also have input our counterparts. Under. The microscope and made them responsible for some of the things that we have seen socially nowadays that they were the. You know. They jumped off. They started at all. But, we totally WANNA put the focus and the blame on us and as is not. This is not how you do things. If you're really looking for answers. If you're really looking for solutions, you have to turn over every stone. You know. and. You can't always go for the low hanging fruit slavery as low hanging fruit right there. Low hanging fruit when you're talking about. Somebody making a bad personal decision. Very, low hanging fruit. Own might be fruit on the ground you know what I mean. You, know. I get it. I get it because won't be. We've all been hurt. We've had a heartbroken over we've been damaged relationships and we you know we want answers. Damn it. We want answers in anyhow anyway we can. You know get those answers. That's what we're GONNA do. What we're. GonNa do. This is human nature. But it takes a level of mental maturity to say. Hey. I was just with somebody. Who made a bad decision based off of? XYZ, and that was it. They were not compatible with me. You know because. Guess what if you choose to be with that person and forgive them even after the from even after the bad decision then that's your decision to me. It, only becomes. A major issue when you jump out there, you say the communist that Miss Lonnie love me. That a lot of black men really don't know how to have true relationships. Because if that is the case, the whole truth, the entire truth and nothing, but the truth is. Them not having. Them not knowing what it's like to have truthful and faithful relationships. Is a result of somebody dropping the ball as far as their mother. And their father is concerned. Okay. So if we're going to have that conversation, we have the pool both aspects into. Okay. We have to. We have to balance this thing we the balanced those scales and put both sides. Of the argument on the chalkboard. because. And I'm going to say this, and this is very unpopular opinions. because. If I'm raising my children. And my son 's. Happened to grow up be horrible husbands they're physically physically physically abusive verbal verbal can't talk right now they're verbally abusive. Not just on. ME. That's on their mothers is. You know. Because what? We both had this child we both agreed to raisin together. So it's on the that's on us, we have a measure of responsibility when it comes to that. But more than likely if that's the behavior that he shows or that they show when they get older, they had to get it from somewhere. and. If I was doing the same things then. Bingo this guy for. What he got it from. Now of course, you know nobody's going GonNa do that. Well, why did you cheat on her? You know what I mean nobody cares it happens their relationships, their ups and downs. There's You know. Hills and valleys has lows. What. Can You do? I'll tell you what you can do. You can find better people to be in relationships with. Public when you get hurt. But. That's my time. Folks appreciate you guys hanging out with me rock with me on the dignified bastard podcast is David Young King. You can hit me up at uncrowned kings seventy seven inch gmail.com guiding questions. Please sheer. This podcast listen to it on multiple platforms spotify. Okay. Get it out there on more platforms as well. Hit me up man, hit me up and throw throw a topic at me out. Do My best to examine you know give my little two cents on it as well as I can as much as I can. But I really appreciate you guys man I'm going to keep the randomness coming I'm GonNa keep the hilarity going I'm going to Just do my thing man this is my gift to the world. Okay, this is my gift to the world, and fortunately for you, it just keeps on giving it keeps on getting because that's what it's about. So by give him and so hey. What else can I say man is David the crowd Kane look out for my book. Okay. It's going to be released this year I'm thinking maybe June Cam not going I'm not going to give too much right now but there's also a book of poetry of mine that you can find on Amazon is called a poetic collision vibes and birds by David W Harris okay. It's about one hundred and some pages if you love poetry if you love spoken word. That's what this book has man. There's all kinds of forms and his love poems. political social palms as. Any type of poetry except that Shakespeare Shit. That's not in their don't look for that. But if you if you if you dig poetry and that's your thing or just simply want to support go to Amazon Dot Com. Look for the book is called a Poi- collision vibes verbs by David, W Harris Okay is the first of many to come and I'm just gonNA. Keep on being awesome. Keep on shining and I'm GONNA. Keep on is being a dignified bastard man so as always. You be true I'm going to be true and I'm going to hope that you become a dignified bastard to a right piece. Have a great weekend.

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"The show is proudly sponsored by CRYPTO DOT COM, and if your car Donna Holy, you can up to six percent per annum. Paid out in, Donna you've also got the opportunity here with the credit card. A three point five percent wife of wine crypto out ten percent back on groceries and food delivered with MCI Visa Card and up to twenty percent backing on gift cards purchased with Dot. com pipe now get to the exchange of CRYPTIC DOT com, because on the fourth anniversary of this company, fifty percent of Bitcoin on the thirtieth of June with two million dollars allocation plenty of benefits over there I dot com download the APP and put in the code. Try to call feel bias. To Cope Crypto podcast. Another beautiful died here where I'm sitting. End The markets well. Gee Ways we close family. Not we saw bitcoin top. It set up three ten, thousand a guy. It was only a quick little. Tabaru up through that level, but we are getting closer and the volatility starting to kick game sayings in big wild candles those. As big wake system big moves. And it's. Sort of thing I wanna say just yet, but it is projecting it so further higher we are now technically in a four hour uptrend on that timeframe at the minute, and we are approaching ten, thousand, one small, currently sitting at nine, thousand, nine, hundred, thirty, four in the high of the candle that I'm looking at on the four hour. He was nine nine is is so we toying with that level? Could this be the day that we do? Push up through? Tying ten thousand and above. I certainly hope so. I'd love to see yesterday's high taking. See some Nice, follow-through buying with that as well I just want to see a spike I wanna see a move through a claim. Walk through that level would be really reading. And then we can say goodbye to ten thousand with a little bit of luck. We should then hopefully say some really good trends that come into play much, but a liquidity in the marketplace, therefore offering acids tried as much better trading conditions to make money. And ultimately well what he'd do, so let's go through and have a look at what happened yesterday. Look at where we are today. Yesterday bitcoin closed up one point one three percent closed nine, thousand, eight, hundred, ninety four, and that's the The highest close we had we had one that obviously closed at ten, thousand, four, hundred and fifty six, but since that I mean we go all the way back to closing. Back! Since back on the of mice over month, the highest close in over a month bother singular day on the first during did spike up three ten thousand site. Can we say further outside US yet to be decided? The market will decide the. I certainly hope so. If it's going on around, the world may just laid into bitcoin becoming much more sparkled asset class and a potential opportunity to get some back some freedom back. So a lot of things bubbling away in the background there, that could be very good for US vice. Currently nine to five its up point three of a percent, a theorem yesterday will close at one point six percent when it was two hundred and forty goals in six cents. To forty, nine forty up half a percent, and there is a bit of a holding its grand. Quite honestly, it has been a little bit sparking of lost few days, but again they just tend to come in with the market loses a little bit of. it pays as being not a lot going on, and therefore not as many traders have been involved because of the conditions just haven't been glued for trading nephew. If you don't know what I'm talking about, actually get across the try to club dot com because there's plenty of information you to work at exactly how try and what goes on so? yeah, if they just flat. I WANNA see it. Pushing a new hawes exile pages still toying with that twenty cent market tried to break down yesterday. In fact, it did break down the close at twenty point two cents, currently twenty points three cents, representing one point one percent gain still very very solid wise though yesterday. Will See bitcoin cash was up to one point. One six percent closing yesterday to fifty seven twenty five cents to fifty, seven, twenty cooled flat on the day. It's still very much Ryan bound and not looking all that Goud to be fair. It's GonNa. Push on through realistically we we've got to get ourselves above that two hundred ninety dollars for that trend kid and give us anything anything to really work with. Yesterday. was up two point three percents closing at one, ninety, four, twenty one. We've gotta get above two hundred, and realistically that trend to kick back in two hundred dollars and twenty cents is level are pushed through to really represent single quality. Move there. It's a it's flat today. One Ninety four thirty-three. Speak you. Like at this moment, forty six dollars, ninety seven cents, a point, three two over percent yesterday at one point, seven percent closing at forty six dollars and seventy two cents, another one that needs to move to a high a high, and that high high is about fifty dollars. We've got to get above fifty ish McEnroe's to make that worthwhile. Didn't do much. It was flat on the day closing toodle seventy five. It's currently toodle seventy seven. It's up half a percent on the day. A bullish candle yesterday, rejecting the lawyers over the last two days, but it's just gonNA. Kick on a little bit more. I WANNA say mole from a US in the market. It's not done a great deal for Israel and it could do with a bit of kickback sought to to get moving. Bonnets is up rotten. Now point three Senate seventeen thousand forty seven cents yesterday. Look not much. Much going on that up point three percent closing at seventeen forty one. It's been pretty messy over the last few days. Is has the rest of the market for honest. Yesterday we saw cut down at fullback in close up point seven percent closing point three six cents, representing a little bullish candle in that cradles I. Will it have the follow-through will be at a say? cod Donna continued move high, or is it just going to be a little bit too much? Huff and puff to continue what has been I suppose? move throughout the period from March old white sway. Hundred percent moves there. Are Very very strong markets that we saying as in great trading opportunities have come from one of the top ten has been training, and there hasn't been too many for a little while. It's currently I point four cents up half a percent right now. They're in classic yesterday. Look at closed up point four percents six dollars ninety one. It's still very sideways. It's flattened the right now. Tron bullish candle yesterday. in the cradle really also can pull back as a matter of fact isn't an AAs trend. I'd love to say this. Push on now. Continuum of high get us through the old highs in this particular trend that all high is at one point eight six cents. If he can get up above those levels, we will see I believe very nice fully through four tron. It has been relatively quiet until light. We have seen that uptrend. Come back into plice our. For tonight, really hard to say, but bitcoin get up through that ten thousand Maga once again, hold above it and get some fantastic trends to start working on. Now's already gonNA. Be leading to be educating yourself to get yourself ready for the next run. Whether comes high whether it comes low. 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Dopey 249: Dopey Day aka ChrisMiss in July with Chris's family and Linda

Dopey: On the Dark Comedy of Drug Addiction

2:29:20 hr | 2 weeks ago

Dopey 249: Dopey Day aka ChrisMiss in July with Chris's family and Linda

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There are so many dopey patriots episodes now I think there's fifteen or sixteen plus a ton of other Patriot on content help make dopey, happy, joyous and free help get me out of the Deli contribute to the show. It will help make the show better. Also go to the store at www dot, dopey podcast dot com, it is run by SRO prince who are couple of recovering heroin addicts, and we have some amazing products. We've got the good so bad shirt. I wore yesterday super comfy. We have the Dopey coin shirt. We've got the Dopey coin tank. We got the new mugs and dude if you guys I just got the coolest fucking shit as prints are going to be mad at me, but I got the dopey nation holographic stickers because I couldn't resist so if you guys want stickers, just hit me up on van. Mo and I'll send them to you. That's a lot of fucking ads and here is the Dopey Day Christmas extravaganza. She's A. Her Mom. A. Job. Free. Free. Free. Hello and welcome to Dopey the podcast about drugs, addiction and dumb shit and I am Dave and Among island in the dining room with my favorite person in the world, my beautiful partner Linda welcome back to the show. Thank you. And I have to say as we prepare for this show I I realized that Linden I. do things totally differently. We always do things totally differently if we're getting ready for a meal Linda Futz. And she won't sit down with each. He walks in the other room. She looks at her phone. She looks out the window. She needs me to be sitting down and eating, and then she starts getting ready, and it's the same thing with this. We're getting ready to show, and you're fultz around looking at stuff. Charging the phone opening windows I like to sit down when everything's. Inaction and I think I, don't like waiting so I want I'd rather someone be waiting for me exactly and I'm always waiting for you. And then this though like I like to wing it and you like to know what's going to happen. I I like to know what we're what we're GONNA be talking about. Yes, and I like to. Just totally I'm not a pro. You are well, thank you. Now, we're starting this very light, but obviously today is dopey day it's. Christmas in July July twenty fourth. It's actually Friday night right now and two years ago today Chris died. and. It's fucked up. You know what I mean like I. Mean I've told this story on the show a million times, but I'll say it one more time. It was here. In Our town and we're walking off the porch and anti called me and told me that Chris had died, and like it was like fucking. Insanity you know and I still have that feeling. I can access that feeling really easily, and the summer is always tainted for me now. Because it just it's just todd thing Chris every summer. You know what I mean. and. It's nuts, but The amazing thing about it. It's amazing. It's a constellation because Chris has gone, but. The intensity of dopey has really grown, and I think people are are really enthusiastic about celebrating Chris and showing solidarity with addicts today, and it like blew my mind to see all the action on social media. Did it blow your mind? your mind blown. My mind was not blown, but it was it was. Really really cool to say. I asked a ton of celebrities to get involved and all of them I mean friends of the show kind of celebrities and all of them got involved except for Jamie, Lee Curtis and Mark Mayor. They might have had other stuff going on. Right well Marc. Maron was like man. said he said I said. I want to ask you if I against better judgement I want to ask you a favor. And he said that doesn't sound like a good idea. And I told him what the favor was, and he said I. Don't know what you're talking about. And then I sent him pictures of himself with the dopey logo. And, he said it seems like you have what you need and I said no I. Want you to post it and he just wrote man. And then and then I wrote. I'm sorry for asking and he goes. No, he said I'm sorry and I said don't worry about it. And I said now I feel icky and guilty, and he said you're probably used to feeling those feelings by now. So. I guess that's the Constellation but yeah me, too. And maybe next year, he'll participate in dopey. Day Man his grieving. Lost his girlfriend, and he's still grieving and I shouldn't have even bothered him. Everyone's like don't bother him that back to the question, my mind was blown. I definitely spent a lot of my day on the dopey nation page today watching everybody. Watching all of the different people's faces start to have the dopey is and even. I made a post about it on facebook and I had about seven people ask of my group or my facebook friends asking me if I could dope. There is and half of them hadn't even heard of Dopey, but wanted to be a part of it so even just. It was SPLOTCH ING. It spread all I watched was mark. All I watch was Mark Man's twitter account and he talked about something else I watch instagram. You talked about his cat now I watched everybody and it was wild and. And I heard from. Incredible tribute might down today. It was serious. Really powerful and I heard from all these people reached out to me. Jeremy Turner reached out to me and he said my whole feed is dope. And and and misty reached out to me and. Dan reached out to me and everyone was just bugging out, and and I'm really proud of it and I'm really really proud of. The fans I'm Fan I'm proud of the dopey nation. I mean dope. I say it all the time. dopey is nothing without the dopey nation, but it's true right. I mean like the show. It's like if a tree falls in the woods, and no one is around to hear. What's the thing where the bears shits? Does it smell. There's no sits in the woods. It's if it's three falls in the woods. Does it make it sound? So what I'm saying is? We could do this podcast, but if nobody listens to it, nobody cares and not only do these people listen to it. They're engaged well. There's there's massive recovery. Support Group that's formed of hundreds of people. Yeah, I mean it's like that's the other crazy part. Is I often forget to have lots and I'm sorry to interrupt you. It's cool to have lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of listeners, but the fact that this podcast has jumped off an actual giant support group. Where everybody's friends and gets to know one another and helps one another like that's a whole other. Level, you know what's funny about it to me though what's funny about it to me? Is that when Chris and I started making the show? That was not our intention at all, and and this is weird, but when you found out about the show, your first reaction was get rid of that. fucking show like you heard some story about me and your dad and Nora watching some movie and you're like who the fuck do you think you are talking about my father on your show? And then somehow you looked at something and you said you know what this could be a real great help to somebody and I was like it's not GonNa help anybody like this show is going to help me and Chris have fun, and it did and like, and it still does, and the therapeutic value of Dobie is still not on my agenda like. What I believe is that as long as the show is fun to make, it will have therapeutic side effects, but if I try to make it therapeut- shuttle, suck and nobody will wanNA listen to it. I think what I loved so much about dopey. Was that it apply to apply appeal to people who maybe didn't want to go to a twelve step meeting. That didn't work for them, and so it was just another option, but it was a fun call. Different alternatives weren't weren't you? What's old y'all recovering recovery movement and put our kids through college? You shouldn't be doing it so more. Importantly. Zander Trendy, and like the ultimate movement, but Linda Linda, was just saying something, but I do think that's what really appealed to me and I thought it would translate well to people who weren't like to step followers, and it does, and it does and apply appeals to both. Not Very well, it doesn't have to be one of the other. These twelve step people get a break and everybody else gets something to believe in kind of thing, but what appeals to me is Linda's talking, and she's not sitting close to the MIC, and she's talking really quietly and start fiddling with the KNOBS and she loses her fuck. Mind made him stop recording. She does some pantomime ing of me as a guerilla fucking with the knobs and it's like. Dude that's how the show has to happen. Just keep working like messing with the soundboard. Listen we need. People always talk shit about me telling you to sit closer to the mic so rather than me telling you this now. People actually say that you're rude to me right when you yell at Mouth Thought. You meant they're talking. They're talking. How dare you wanted to make sure that's such a beautiful woman's factor our way. And don't be nation. Ovation's got my if you had any idea of the way of the life, eyelid. I abused. For the guy you guys would understand why I can take such pleasure in telling her to stick closer to the MIC, but when you're right like obviously, the power of the show has been a way for people to. Share pain, share experience, and like I mean it's still a fun talk. Show to me. I don't think about the therapy aspect I. Think about the Funny Story. I think about like making fun of you or making fun of sure whoever? Well if the fun part went away, and you became just all recovery talk, I bet like half your listeners. It'd be like a sucks amount listening to this podcast anymore, so the fact that you don't you WanNa. Keep it being fun and having the recovery, part B.. A bonus as opposed to the. Purpose, why don't have a choice I'm not like is good I'm not capable of doing the other thing and and I've been like killing myself to get press for this dopey day. Oh my goodness I wonder. If people saw your news appearance last night, right so I contact. There's a fan of dopey in Texas named. Pooja and Pooja is a reporter in Texas and I reached out to her, and she connected me with Kaelin and Boston. Who did the story rain and the story was pretty great. They said you are a local man. While they were wrong, they had that wrong. I'm not a local. Big Mistake, but like I go I you know. Linda's here with the kids and I. Go on the back back. Yard to talk to the news and Susan's fucking only land. Ignoring her screaming focused, and I thought that news piece was really good. It was good now. Today is all about. Missing Chris and I had an idea. And if we read this before I apologize but I don't think we ever read this Chris Maybe. We did, but hopefully we didn't Chris. Had A great passion for doing dopey book. He wanted to do a dopey book which would be a compilation of stories? And originally it was going to be Chris and I and Graphic Design Ryan. Who made the logo and Chris put together this major book proposal and this thing it was thirty six pages. Is Book Proposal and this and it also included a lot of fans emails in it, so it's fans stories. It's I wrote a story. It's such A. Story Ryan Rose Story and Chris wrote an introduction, and actually sent it to some publishers, and they weren't interested. Maybe they would be now, but I want you to read the introduction. Okay sounds good. Looking at me for? occurred. In March of two thousand eleven I entered my fourteenth. Treatment Centre for heroin, cocaine and alcohol abuse. Week before checking in my brother and sister had picked me up in Harlem in a blackout. I had boarded a bus from Boston and decided to reinvent my life in New York City. Within days my money had gone into my arm I was homeless and trying to sell my last possession, a dead cell phone that I had found on the street. This falls in the mild end of the spectrum of disasters I had been responsible for over the years. At the new Rehab I left my unopened dollar door packages of white t shirts, boxers and sweatpants on my bed, and immediately went outside for a cigarette, the most authentic and genuine expressions of rehab patients can be found in the designated smoking area. Nearly a decade of shuffling around the country at a wide range of treatment centers has taught me this. There is the mother who extravagantly allom laments losing custody of her child do drug charges during group who then Assa Client Cheek, has a Hermens for that night. Or there is the husband who cherishes the unconditional love of his wife, and then brushes, arms, and bats is with females in between puffs of a cigarette. And then there are those whose behavior is consistent. They seem to do better I smoked off to the side and silently judged my peers for the roles. They were playing many which I had engaged. Engaged in at some point. I spoke when spoken to and never volunteered much. What's the point I figured normal? Keep in touch, Mosul relapse and a few will die. I wrote I wore smile, but behind it was a bitter contempt for the life I had been living, and for the people who remained me reminded me of myself. In steps insteps day with his Marlboro Reds Big Juneau's ear to ear, smile and a likability. It was the worst. He puked the details of his life upon me, unaware that I had established myself as the silent observer, or maybe I was the only one who would listen to him as he cycled between stories of his daughter. His daughter's mother Rehab Exploits and heroin addiction I started to enjoy our conversations. Dave could look at his life with an ironic sense of humor smile upon his idiocy, but not lose sight of the Gravitas Gravy tabby tasks of addiction. Reciprocated with my own stories, and we enjoy long. Belly laughs over topics that would repulse the average person. I felt better. I got better and to Ryan. He was a confused white boy with a giant root. Tang Tattoo on his thigh. I'm not sure if it even qualifies as a Tattoo looks more like a doodle that disgruntled sixth grader would do during class to Piss off the teacher. Addiction and taken toll on Ryan. He was a lost soul with no sense of identity or a better slated a plethora identities that were on his own, but we shared the combat of addiction and humor rank quickly joined in throwing down his stories and laughing at his insanity. One might say Dobie was born in these conversations. However, they have been happening for decades in the common areas outside of twelve step meetings, and the smoking pits of rehabs on the street between. Active addicts or in chance encounters between two like minded people as the saying goes the therapeutic value of one addict. Helping another is unparalleled, and for many of us that means to that therapy is comedy and identification. Five years after meeting David Ryan I brought my laptop over to Dave's lower east side apartment in Manhattan and pushed record preparation was nil. What came out was a typical no-holds-barred smoking pit conversation dialogue rife with using stories open ended drug discussion and debate over addiction philosophy, even with minimal promotion personal anonymity. We started to get emails from a diverse group of people from convicted bank robber robbers to people in long term recovery. Everyone had a story to tell and the uniting theme was humor. We realized that are darkly comedic and non-judgmental podcast format held a space that other recovery centric shows couldn't fill with the e mails pouring in in our love for writing. It was a simple decision to write a book. However, we wanted to do something different. The market is saturated with addiction memoirs each one to outdo the next. The DOBIE podcast informed decision for a different sort of format. Simple self contained stories that describe addiction. Chapters don't necessarily build upon other. They're heavy and debauchery department, but have enough perspective and hope to provide meaning. This is a flow to the book, but readers can pick it up open to any page and dive in. It could be a coffee table book, but a more appropriate place might be next to the toilet. Most. Importantly, the content appeals to the same audiences the podcast people were an active addiction. People who are in recovery and people who like sensational crazy stories. Right so I just got chills about twenty times reading that I almost started crying. Out. Chris had this dream of this book fucking? Idea going to rehabs. It's basically he. When we were in Rehab the last time together, everybody had fucking Nick Chef. tweak and everybody had scar tissue and everybody just send it around the Rehab and like he wanted us to have a dopey books on the Rehab and maybe I'll get back to it. You know so, you know. The publishers and I have a couple of stories. That would obviously go in and I. Have a bunch of other stories, but the point is that Chris like he was so smart and so funny, and and knew what he wanted this to be And he really wanted to become a literary purpose. It's like he wanted to be a writer so bad. He's a good writer. He wrote for Salon. He wrote for Vanity Fair. He wrote a science fiction novel that he might or might not have finished you know he. He was a smart guy and. What was so what I love so much about what he wrote and. Lot allowed things clicking for me as I was reading, I never read that before. And it now makes me look even more clear to me is is that? He talks about how so many parts of recovery obviously we have talked about comes in connection, but that the smoking section outside a twelve step meeting or the the people smoking outside of the rehabs when everyone just kind of hanging out in the smoking section like that's maybe where even more of the work is taking place, because that's where the relationships are starting, and that's where the bonds have started, and that is almost more powerful than the actual. Program or work itself obviously not to take away from it, but that's kind of what I think. Chris is saying about dopey. And I thought that I mean that's really, that's a really cool. Connection the really cool thing about it to me is when he wrote that we were getting. You know a fiftieth of the response that we get now. You know the number of people that listen. There was such a small number of people compared to the number that let's now, but it was so meaningful to us, and we felt like we were throwing seeds out in a field they would start popping up and now the show is still small by by podcast standards, but the field is definitely blossoming, and that's what the dopey nation is, and that's what we saw today in Dopey what Chris was talking? Actually happening now. The, past two years the first one. We did this show at Chris's wake. At, AIRBNB with Chris's best friends and the next year we went I went to great Barrington to talk to them again right and this year and that we didn't even do it for you know we did. We did it for this day. This year I wanted the covert and I didn't know how people were going to respond and get together. Not Get together. I knew that Chris's family. was on Long Island there in the Hamptons and and I talked to his sister every once in a while, and I was I asked her. Did she think that participating in episode of Dobie would be something that her parents wanted to. And I was expecting her to say no. And, US surprise I was very surprised. I was very surprised and I was touched, and I was scared May. And I've driven out to that place in Southampton. Twenty Times you know what I mean and every time I drove out. I would leave at dusk and I would be really excited because it would be. Get to leave our little family bubble behind and go hang out with got a break from Assegaf Island Chris go hang out eat Parmigiana. Yeah, I remember I remember and I'm home and a breastfeeding as A. that. Right when he was born? No, you are chilling with Nora snuggling bed ice-cream whatever paint this. Is, I would go out there and we would have the best time like I just remember. Me Smoking outside of their house us eating like these different meals with Broccoli, rob and bread and ice cream, and I bring all these chocolate bars, and I play music, and we'd be on the phone with people, and we'd always do it in the winter, because nobody was around right and it was like we were in a bubble, and they'd be snow everywhere, and it's like off this weird road in the after drive down this long driveway, and after we finished every time. Chris was nervous because I was not a good driver. He would back my car the long drive because he didn't. Crash into his parents edges so when I drove out there and this summer and last summer. We've had different events out by quad or you know. The preserve. It's all down that same road and I always think of Chris whenever I drive a sunrise. And and the idea of going there was very scary to me. And very uncomfortable and sad, but scary because I mean to me with his parents to go back to the house to not see Chris, but part of me. Thought he'd be there. Do you know what I mean like you never ever like in a situation and you kind of just wish you could go back to a place where the thing was still there. So you know like I feel that all the time about so many things. And I definitely had a little feeling of that when I drove out to have been very surreal. Yeah, I. Listen to Howard Stern on the way out there interviewing Jim Carey and it was amazing interview. And I think Jim. CARREY's sober and it was just like really cool interview and. I was just. Trying to get out of my head I to get ready to talk to them and I had nothing prepared like zero. There's a lot of anxiety heading your way on that trip because there was you know the sort of there's a bit of a traumatic experience of going back to that house. Knowing Chris wouldn't be there. And then there was also the feeling of meeting his parents to talk about dopey which you weren't sure. How they? What they felt about it. Didn't really know about and talk about Chris. Were kind of going into a pretty intense. Environment it was very tense and I, remember when Dave is leaving here to go there he was. You know could tell that he was very wired like like. I think we're a little bit excited just because. You were going to interview crisis. Parents just pretty powerful, but I think that there was a lot of emotions running through. You and you weren't sure how to. Manage them. I was excited because. Their story has never been on dopey. They've never been included in the show. I've met his mother twice. I met her once out there in the summertime, and she was lovely and sweet and stuff, and I met. Father only at the week and the funeral, and when I met the, I met the mother the first time she was Kinda like giving me the kind of half side, I, because she knew we were like these idiot kind of I'm an idiot. Forty four year old man, and he's an idiot, thirty three year, old man, or whatever and and we're like in the poolhouse, telling old drug stories. Making country time lemonade in the fucking kidding. And then when I met them at the funeral like a, they were so. Hurt. Broken, but they were like taken with the fact that Chris had left a legacy in Dobie. And I. Just thought that their voice was important for our show and I thought. And I thought that it was important for for this year's dopey day for this year's Gra this Christmas in July thing so I'm just GonNa play yeah all right so this is a strange and weird and and painful thing we're we're we're? Acknowledging. It's been two years since Chris died, and I drove out to Southampton to his family's house where I used to come out here to record, and I'm with Peter Arden his mother and his sister, and thank you for letting me come and thank you for coming on the show and. The bottom line with this whole thing. Is that Dopey was Christmas show? It was my mining Chris Show, and I have never taken Chris's name off of the show in any capacity, and I talk about Kris on every episode. Every episode ends with doodles for Chris Regardless and. And I think it's very very important that your story is told on dopey. And Chris didn't want you to tell your story while he was alive on Dobie and I find that to be weird now because I remember when you were, we came out here and I met Chris Martin and and you're in the kitchen making food and we were in the poolhouse recording asinine episode. You know stupid show? And I said to. Chris, why don't we have your mom come on the show and he's like no, no, no, no, no, no! I wish we been able to do that. That's so funny. I didn't know that well. My Dad was on the show on the show constantly now. That's great well I, think he's funny. And he knew me before this all happen. Then he knew me through it, and the audience is attached to him now, and he's got I mean I wouldn't call wisdom, but he's got something something that the audience likes and. I wish that you could have come on. And you could have come on when Chris was alive, because it could have been fun instead of this, but it is remarkable that Chris and I started something as. Borderline stupid as Dobie and it wound up helping so many people. Did that surprise when he first told you about that, he was gonNA. Do this thing. What was your take? To be honest with you, there was such a part of a for me anyway. There was such a part that said. I. I think maybe a lot of parents would feel that way, but I'm not sure, but it was sort of. I wish that world that he was in would be in the past and in a closet, and he was moving on to stage two and stage three. That would put that at that. As sort of that was a time in my life I. Don't I'm not identifying with that anymore? which was so wrong about? But but that's what you wish as a parent. Because you want done, you want him to do what do move on in his life so. When he said about Dopey I thought a when I first heard the first few episodes that I can't listen to this this is. Reverend. They're laughing about something that we suffered so much within soda Chris. I can't. It was only way later that I learned and even his death when we saw all the comments. In the book for on his. After his obituary. That since we realized how many people kristen talk to us a ton about that? He talked with Arden, but he he probably felt like I. Don't know if my parents want to hear that story or I'm not quite sure what you would say. Why thought maybe not to have me or Peter Come on? Probably because he thought we weren't going to be happy about it. So that was really how we felt that the time and I think it was because you were trying to get out of a ditch your in and this represented slide and back in the ditch in our mind in not knowing the therapeutic effect, it would have on so many others that weren't going to be the guy that signs up for Rehab. Because his mother and father said to do it, and maybe these people that had no intentions of it. So it was only way later that I found that out and I. Think Peter's the same I'm not sure. I, just thought it was a waste of time. You know. I said he'll grow out of it. He'll stop it. This thing lost a couple months, and then he'll go. Do what else does and it was only after. The. Two of you done it for three or four years that I find this really means something to. And you're thrilled that he's sticking to something just giving up. And can't believe arden is saying is probably. Chrysanthemum Generous Spirit that certainly I do you know? And he realized that might help other people, and to some extent you get preoccupied with your own son, and wanted to move on from the drug culture, and you really don't care about other people's children. And he thought he thought better helping people than we did. I was preoccupied with him. It wasn't preoccupied with everybody else. And frankly I was astonished. It continued and I was astonished at. How would instill still. As I said my initial response was. He'll grow up and it won't happen anymore. I think I I I. Know How I feel about it and I I have some recollection of how Chris felt about it, and maybe you can help me with this. I feel like we didn't do it to help anybody like. I had done. My little web series about cats is and Sound Weird I'm sorry I had done my little web series about cats. And Chris was really taken with, and he was like Dave. If you're going to do something else I to do it, I, remember him talking about that. And and I said well Prince. You can't do anything what what am I going to do with you? And then I remember I had this friend who had the idea to do a podcast about drug stories and I was like Chris. Why don't we steal my friends I? To a podcast about drugs stories and he was great. He's like what do I do and I said drive down to my apartment in Manhattan and we'll do it. And he drove down to my apartment and he was like well. What are we going to do? And I said well I'm just. GonNa hit record. And then we're GONNA. Talk and you're going to tell a story, and then we're going to talk, and I'm GonNa tell a story and It just it was funny. You know and it was fun and it gave us we. I mean the most beautiful thing about dopey without it. Forget the audience forgetting helping people forget all that stuff. Krizan I met in Rehab in two thousand eleven. We probably talked ten times between twenty eleven in two thousand fifteen. Ten, times once we started doing dope be every day every day from twenty fifteen. Until the day he died, we talked, but before that we probably spoke ten times. We were always had meaningful conversations. We spend a lot of time together at mountainside but Christmas also the kind of person that you could spend ten hours with and then not see for four days. You know what I mean he he would come into your life, and then he would run away so like when. Dopey is a document of me and Chris Becoming close friends. Our whole friendship is the show and. And, he would tell me that he thought the show was helping people and I'd be like I. Don't think it's helping anybody, but but I know it's fun, and he would always say it is fun and he would always say to me I mean. He said to me the night before he died. I just want this to be my career I want. Chris was very good at telling people what they wanted to hear and he knew how fixated on. Dobie successful and a career and. I think the core was are fun. And then the side effect was that it helped people you know and I think the only reason we did stick with. It was because we had a lot of fun doing it. And when you know the priest at the funeral. said that he'd never seen such messages from the world about anybody that he had i. don't know the right terminology for it. That he had with Chris. Was that meaningful to you guys like what does that? What does that do to you guys at the time? I think the content of the royal. Comments that were made. That's what really and father unique did say parts read some things and say these were the some of the comments. And I think the emotional content of from their heart about somebody helping talking it really hit our hearts and in one side. We felt like this is fabulous on the other side, we said. How did we not know this? How did we not know? This, and if we thought after time when buying, you thought about it, that was so Chris. We would never know that he did the technical things for this. We would not know that. He had that on the left hand that he was doing. Because he was never, he didn't like talking about himself and he didn't like. It was like it was expected. If you said this is great I, mean he? He told me in a basketball game. He was mortified and I said why and he said because I. Get you screaming out there. Chris go Chris, said I get, you can be quiet in the stands. And he just never liked any accolades or attention drawn to himself, so we shouldn't have been surprised, but we were both taken taken back by how many comments and the kind of comments that were made. So. Yes, it's always a surprise is always somebody that writes something to this day. There's somebody that sends an email and gives a little piece of information that we didn't know about and you. Do you try and look for every little piece of information that you can find out you find you. You want every little piece that's missing. And, so when you see these comments that these people make about what Chris did. You think he never talked about it with us and I I always wondered if it was a sense of himself or a sense of confidence in conjunction with. I don't WanNa I. DON'T WANNA get star on my paper for this right. What do you think Peter? Much the same I was astonished. Volume of it and what they meant. But, he was always very self effacing in. It's too bad. The wasn't alive to read the comments. Even though we wouldn't if he had read, them told us about him right, not just the way he was just. Surprised that so many people listen to the show. Frankly I haven't listened to much of it. Because I lived I. Don't really want to hear it But I I. Sort of thrilled that he did it in the longer gets. It's a great legacy form. The crazy thing to me. and. It's just it's very bittersweet. You know obviously Chris wasn't my son. He was my friend who I shared this we we shared this project you know and it was every day, and it was our heart and soul. And how do we make it better? And how do we affect more people? And how do we get better guests? How do we make it more fun and and now I hear from people that I don't know who just started listening yesterday and they get to know Chris. Know from them as you know, he was still alive. Get to know him. Yeah and I know why you don't listen because he's gone. It's too painful even when he was here I didn't want. That's all. Different reason. Through, it wasn't all that funny. You know that's what my Dad, my dad. My Dad loved what my dad likes about the show, the the love of the show, von, the laughs the. Obvious friendship and laughter. Loved. He's like he wishes it wasn't about drugs. You know sure sure and it's like an I. I struggle listening to the show because it's painful for me so i. mean the difference between me and Chris was that I wanted to show a huge, but I didn't want anyone I knew to listen to. And Kris K. R. About the show being big, but he told everybody to listen to it. Friend everybody on facebook and tell them to listen to, so he and he also if he saw all the comments, he would have acted like nothing to him, but it would have gone right. His head does that's great. That's great to hear. He would've loved loved the attention arden. You're being unusually quiet. That's. That's unusual. I think. I think actually both mom and dad have said said it really well about Chris. I mean I think Chris was a little bit of A. He was sort of a contradictory fellow on the one hand he had no ego, and on the other hand he actually did have an ego about what he accomplished he just I think at times was too nervous that he would fail at something to ever voice i. want this and we are. It's very because we're very close as you know and I love every part of him I was close to him even in his worst moments, and some of his best moments and I think for me I didn't tell him. We have a lot of similarities in our personalities, and then there's just parts of your mindset I. Don't understand like I always was very clear about saying I'm going to set this goal I. Think I'm worthy of achieving this and I remember a few years into his sobriety him telling me that he wanted to be a therapist or sober coach and I it having run a business in this industry I roll my eyes, but I said to him. Him Look. I think it's a great goal, but that's not all you can do. You could do so many other things if you wanted to and I. Don't think ultimately his quest to become a therapist motivated because this is all worth, but I do think he struggled with for whatever the therapeutic term I've heard is imposter syndrome so I'm worthy of a lot and I haven't and I'm very confident on the outside, but internally I question what? What I'm actually going to be able to achieve and so I, think for for dopey. I totally agree with everything you've said I. Don't think I think for him. It was a happy accident that it got as popular as it did I do think he took a lot of pride in the last couple of years of it, actually impacting people I think his decision to eventually become a therapist was not just a guy in recovery I could help. Help, but really like I think I actually could make a difference I mean not that the first motivation is a bad one, but I think he really could see progress with people he had worked with in my belief was that he would be quite honestly as a clinical professional unstoppable, because of his personal experience, his intentions to really help people, and because he was quite smart, and in the doctor to some of the clinical material well so. I always found him. I think part of the reason. We were closes because I found him so interesting and I. do think he always had more so than my other brother mad and I did. A creative energy about him I mean. He tried to write a book. At one point you know he, he always kind of had. He wanted a voice in the world to be heard, and he was never going to be in my opinion. I don't think he had the confidence frankly or enough grounding to be one of those speakers in a circle that you sat back and said like this guy is. Is the God I. Mean There's a lot of those that I've seen in self help meetings I. Don't think that was going to be his path and I think this gave him away to feel like he was having an impact. He could feel the impact directly by messages by the traction. The show was getting and I think to your earlier point. He had an authentic connection with you and I. I have to say the reason. A lot of people do things in this world whether it's write a book together. Start a podcast together start. A company together is because people enjoy working with each other and I think this podcast was as much a quest for him to have an authentic connection with yet another person in recovery. He had a few of those, but he didn't have some people in have. Have circles of thirty forty people there in touch with all the time. He didn't have that, and so there were a few of you in his life. Many of you who I've been in touch with for the over the years who I know, he trusted their judgment, and he got something out of that relationship but I. think that this show was a quest for that too right right? It's I mean. I know like When when he told me that he was going to go for his. Side. Like. It was almost like he as though he was a fisherman that grew up near the water. You know what I mean. He was around addiction so much he he learned every aspect of this thing, and he's like what the hell else am I going to do almost at first because. If he. Like in your profession if you know the profession. Every centimeter of it. It's like you'd be a fool not to try to pick it up because he didn't want to sell things, he didn't WanNa. Be A realtor he didn't want to be. He wanted to do what he knew. And he knew addiction and he'd been around however many treatments, however many addicts, and like he and he certainly didn't like being the inspirational speaker at a meeting like he was like I. don't even share meetings. He was like just listen because he felt like. If he shared, he would be wanting to be self centered and wanting the accolades. which is I think the other beautiful thing about dopey was the anonymity that we could enjoy. We could bask in this thing without it being us it being. Know and I think that was great for us. When when I'M GONNA throw go back here for a second like when? Did you realize that he had a crippling addiction? When he first with the high school he had had. First of all. He drank when in about the eighth grade and that by itself. Tells you. There's a problem coming down the road when it starts early. He had. Drugs of some of his friends, probably freshman or sophomore freshman year high school, maybe even eighth grade there. We sort of since I'm in recovery myself I, sort of said well. He's going to school. He's playing. Two or three sports is grades. Not might not be up to. what is brain? Power is but pretty good, and he seems okay. And we're came off the wheels. When he graduated from school without at Georgetown, then all of a sudden. Easy went off the rails. We went down. There must have been first quarter sophomore year. And his roommate said he was just sitting in his room drinking all day long, and that's know we saw new. Things off, but we never nuked the extent they. Took them out of school and in those days. This is you know this is? Probably Twelve fifteen public fifteen years ago. The industry. The Recovery University wasn't as well defined. That is now. There are no no companies like Arden's company. There weren't a lot of people telling you what to do. The one that's many inpatient and outpatient, and so we went and got an education consultant of all things that tell us Sierra Tucson. We would just grasping at straws, but the first indication of a problem was probably. Say the first indication. We acknowledge he had a problem. was probably first quarter of. Sophomore year. And I remember he told the story of going to George Town and the way he told it was when he saw that his roommate could drink all day. He knew that he could to. and which is funny, it's kind of like the inversion of oil. When Chris had this idea art lewd to what? That he wanted to be a very upside down personality. He wanted to do the least amount of work and yet get a C., plus because that would impress everybody, so he didn't want to be patted on the back. You wanted people standing. This kid doesn't do anything and he's still going to school and he had so. The wasn't very quirky. person was tough to explain to anybody I still don't. Think I could relate a lot to him and I had a very I think similar universal view, which is like you wanted maximum results from minimal effort, so people could think you're amazing, whereas in an tried and you fail, that's and. That's exactly right. That's exactly right, you know. We definitely, we had a lot of bad things in common obviously. But. He's he. He struggled obviously and he and he fought over and over and over like. That must must've been you know. How many times did you think you're out of the woods or was it only at the end that you? Know he had a period in the end. It was about four and a half years. But he had a period before that that was three years long without drinking and. We thought. At that point that things had changed and that that it looked good from what we had before, but then when we saw the last. Four and a half years. We said Oh no, this. Is it not only did he does. He seem different? He has a purpose in life. He has things that he enjoys. He's asked us for things. We didn't talk about aside. And he came up with that applied. He went ahead whereas before it was Chris. Come on, you've got to do well in school. What are you doing? Whatever? It wasn't any of that? In fact, it was the opposite. Peter had said to him which shocked Chris. Don't do any of this for me. Do what you have to do. Number one is sobriety, so you pick what what will keep you there and he picked it all, so we've. We've felt the last time that he was really on the road and I think before the three year period we had a year where he he did yoga every day. After speaking to a doctor that he met at mcleans soon after he went through detox and had to go through a two week program. and. The doctorate said Jewish, Tonga, Yoga, and he told them what what play Stephen What teachers even. Chris went there every day for a year, and that was a chain, so we always had these hopes, but after that fell then you. You were worried about it during the three years, but then it looks like. Oh, no longer so this might be it and I remember Matthew his brother saying. Maybe one of the things you have to think of is that Chris Mike get well for a period of time and you might have to go then. Two years with him off, and then three years than the three years becomes four years sober than then he goes off then the four years become six years, and that's it may be the way it has to be for a while, but we refuse to believe that we always thought no this'll be. He'll be. He'll be fine And it's just the way it went for US Yeah! I I said I spoke to him every day for that period of time in some way, we texted her. We spoke or whatever and. And I mean one of the more painful aspects of this is. That I've gotten thousands of emails from people saying that I should have known that this was happening. You know Being an addict in recovery myself, and and being addict period like I should have been able to see the signs in Chris. You know that and frankly maybe I should have been able to but I. didn't you know because I I was under the impression that. 'cause I, had a lot of things in my life. You know right before he died, we had our second child. We had bought a house and my best friend had died. You know that was right right there. An Anti Gun. Anti called me and told me. I don't I thought she was lying? Because Chris had called me the night before. Probably out of his mind on drugs, but telling me that Anne was crazy and anti, this and anti that and so I believe Chris, you know what I mean and. And the day. He the day. She called me that he was dead. He texted me at six thirty that morning. She texted me in the middle of the night. Can you check on Chris so I will? I was asleep so I woke up at six thirty in the morning and I texted Chris at six thirty one. He texted back the day he died. He said I'm OK. Not Great but alive I'll call you later. You texted me at six thirty one that day. So when anti called me and told me I just didn't believe her. I thought it wasn't true and I called you. To confirm it because I could not believe this had happened like. and. I had gotten a call earlier that summer from Ryan. Because Chris had called Dylan and thought it was me. Okay, which seem very weird, so I called Chris and he didn't write me back, and it was. It was right when Todd died and I was sure Christmas debt because I was just scared I was waiting tables, a cats and I was terrified, and then I called Annie and Chris called me immediately because he got so upset. That I called the Anne like because in reality. He was using and he didn't want anyone to know, but he he made me feel like done the wrong thing because I was gonNA worry people, but I said to him. If you're sober, what do you care about if I'm worrying people? And I should have known that, but I didn't. So it makes me sad to hear honestly that folks have commented on that and I. Know that there's part of them that are being protective over my brother. Which I love I would say, thank God. No one said it to me. I mean I. Run a company in the addiction field, and I always say Chris was the best teacher for the types of cases that we get because if you believe as it's defined now in the clinical manual, that addiction is a spectrum Chris in my opinion was a nine out of ten scale. Whereas I'd say more families that we see. We see some pretty acute cases tend to be in the six to eight range right so I think one of the things about Chris because he was so smart and I say this to parents. Now you know if you have someone who's very naturally intelligent, and they have an addiction issue. It's more complicated because they tend to think one. They can outsmart people to. They don't really by the self help meetings, even if there's not a religious objection to the to the higher power, there's a special and I can work around this and I think in Chris's case he was. was extraordinarily manipulative up to his last days of having see what you want. He wanted you to see and so I'll just you know forty eight hours before he died, we had heard from Anne. We were here in our home in Southampton. She says he's acting odd. And when she described what was going on my gut instinct was this is a problem. We got on the phone with him with anti in the background, and he started getting very agitated, and at one point I said to a quote that he had said years ago. which is you told me given what you've put our family through that at any. Any point I could ask you about your sobriety, and you would never get upset and you're clearly getting upset. Which makes me think something has changed, and he got a little quiet, but our company surprised him with a drug test, and just to give you a sense of his level of manipulation and I say this with all the love and the world for my brother. He called me after my employees went, and drug tested him, and it was a total surprise test. I said to my boy. Don't tell them you're coming. Show up, just arrive. He called me afterwards and he said Yep, so I got drug tested. Tested, it's GONNA come back clean. And he went on, and on about all these other issues in his life, and I called my father, this was Monday. He died Tuesday right after the call, and I said I don't think he's using I think he's stressed out about all sorts of different things. Because that's the side he wanted you to see and I think that for the families we deal with other people I know of of someone. That's the scariest part about addiction and I think frankly that's where the wisdom of AA, and I'm not a member of a, but I've gone to a lot of meetings, but the. Serenity prayer. because. It's something you can't control. I couldn't control Chris's impulse to only show me part of him had he called me at eleven at night the night before he was fighting with Anne he knows I would have been out of this house. We would have had six companions. If we need, we would have done whatever it took to keep well, but that's not the mindset he was in, and he was very clever at showing you just enough and knowing in the past. What's gotten him off the hook? And that I think that's the hardest part for families to accept in the only thing. I for me. The only solace I of had in his death is knowing that up. Till he died the only message he heard from our family as we told him the day. We thought something was wrong on that conference. Call my mom. I will never forget it said if there has been a relapse, it's okay you just need to tell us. We will help you get better. And it's not that every family can afford not to have tough love messages I understand the value of those, but as a family member. WHO's lost somebody I'm very grateful that he heard love up. Till the moment he died because as a family. We feel like we tried everything, and and we I go to bed knowing. He heard that we cared about him. Even though I don't think he did it intentionally and it just happened. Yeah. It's it's brutal. But whenever I when I was dealing with it in the beginning, because I was not under the impression that this could have happened. I got because Chris like he was operating at such a high level in terms of his own life. He was in a committed loving relationship, he had a job and he he liked he looked good. He was wearing khaki pants and brooks brothers shirts every day, he. was participating in every aspect of his life, but he wasn't going to meetings. He wasn't gonNA and he said it on the show I, we talked about on the show. And I said I said Chris. You have all these things going for you. Can we were joking because I didn't think that what happened could happen and I said well. What the last time you got to this place? What was your lifelike when you relapsed? And you had three years, and he said he said I was digging around with my girlfriend and working on this and working on that, and not going to meetings and I said well, I said well. What what are you doing now? You know and I said it as a joke and he like. He kind of laughed, but the and it's a mystery that will never uncover, and it's almost like irrelevant but like. Do you think it was that injury and then Guelleh. That triggered this thing. MIGHT BE TRIGGERED A. been around. Long enough into enough treatment that he knew once. He talks something he was doing. It's almost the if you you know. I'm an alcoholic and I know that if I took it drink, there was no way I could stop. And he knew that that have been taught to him for thirteen to fifteen years that. You have no control over once you start so maybe the enjoining guerrilla allowed him. To get some kind of drug, but he knew we shouldn't be taking that drug and he knew if he. Did, he should have gone back and talked to somebody so it might have been. In the back of his mind I honestly think he wanted to do what he wanted to take it and the issue is someone who wants to describe it as an itchy shirt. The itch was always there was some of. It's a little bit less, but it was always. He was always GONNA have to scratch it. And you can always the than said he never would relapse if he hadn't done this and the and. I'm all true. It wouldn't just come down the pike and we. At least that's my opinion. I always had this. These thoughts in your mind goes crazy when something like this happens, and you then have to step back. Had this thought that you know. Christopher and I were in Japan together and there was something he always wanted to go to a place, and so did I, and so we went. And there was one afternoon that he ran. Up One hundred steps to get to this sort of. Quasi temple type thing, but he ran. And I was having trouble walking up the steps, but he he went so fast and then came down. Any hurt his back. And then we had to cancel some of the couple things that we were supposed to do the last couple of days because of that soon after that trip, then he, he took suboxone and thought well. I I'm going to feel better and that'll be fine. When I heard that. He did some kind of karate kick in Anguilla. And then wound up taking some pain reliever pills. The thought occurred to me that maybe he. At that time lost his resolve for some reason that I'll never know we don't know. And I almost thought he did those things on purpose I almost thought that in his mind he was starting to. Descend, create the pros and create something. Yes, exactly that that if I do this and my back will pull out and kept saying my back and. These heating pads and all these things from the hotel people, but I always slot could have been that. That was his cry to do something so that he could create the problem and take something and that he was, he was already getting the feeling like he itchy and irritable. Going to. Just going to add one quick thing which is I think I can see the logic on that I. don't like to think that way with the second relapse. The first one I agree on the running the stairs in Japan on the second one I always liked to think it was just this coincidence, but. I think the other thing I will say this comes back to him being smart and thinking he can outsmart things I think in the journey of his recovery. He saw people who were sober forever. He's up. People who are sober and relapsed. He saw people who were sober, and didn't have a full blown relapse, but maybe tried to bring reintroduce alcohol or reintroduce pills and Chris, I think. I think there was a part of Chris I mean. He was always fascinated by Iowa Ska and psychedelics I. think There was a part of Chris. Almost hoped that he would be able to use something small, and I think when he when this happened regardless of whether it was intentional or not, he truly believed in his heart that he would be able to figure it out and that's that's where I say like the intelligence factor like I. Think again for me. The beauty in the self help meetings or that the phrases are simple. And I used to say to them like he would win in the speaker would talk and especially in his early days when he was sort of lacking insight into how serious the problem was, he was a role as is and say like what. But yeah, just got the he's not he would. He would find some way to insult. The speaker to me and I used to say you can say a lot of and maybe he has an achieved what you hoped to in your lifetime, but he stayed sober, and so I think sometimes he. He always had this feeling like he could find some little crack that he would be able to manipulate and I also do think he was impacted by peers who had long standing recovery, and so if he saw them do something that was experimental. He would almost think like maybe I. Maybe I can try it I I remember when it happened like again, all of his success. And it spoke to me and we talked about sentinel on the show. A million times, and he would always say the same thing about it, which was it's a good thing. There wasn't that much fence out there. When we were out there or we'd be dead. He would say that I never acknowledge and another thing that Chris and I said all the time on the show was that we never thought we could die from it, you know we said on the show all the time, because both of us had us such large amounts of of heroin, opioids of of drugs of. Deadly combinations amounts that you'd think it would kill you, so you don't think it can sure however whenever he would talk about fence and all he would say. Isn't it great that there was no fence out there? And then he maybe once or twice, he said, but I wonder what it's like. I heard that, too, and I forgotten what it was four I don't know if it was for school or four. Proof or something, but he made that comment and I remember because a red flag went right up in my mind because he said something like this. You Know I. I'm very interested in what this is like, not not those exact words, but that's what I got out of it. And I remember thinking Oh my gosh. She's still has this on his mind. To, try the new thing well, and it's supposed to be so much stronger and and the thing that really I took away from everything that happened was like in alcoholics anonymous. They say if you follow this whole thing, these promises come true and you don't. You don't fear financial instability and you you. You know you have a better life. They promise you. If you do everything, they promise you a better life. And he had a better life. The promises had come to him and I think he really wanted to have the better life and get high like I think really out. He'll to him, I think. Most people like that. I really don't think he believed. was powerless over and I thought just with our instead he thought he could. Thinking and they also think that like a lot of people do after a certain period of time. You almost immune to the ITCH. Not. That the each goes away and you don't have to worry about it anymore. And I think he felt that way also after four enough. It's SORTA confident. He's smart enough. He's not. He's not going to go over. Not GonNa fall over the edge and kindling and killed them to date so I think he could get away with. It we changed over the time when we first they thought you clean them up and put them back in school. By the time you've been to ten years. Oh, I, wanted to do was keep Monk Great Barrington with Colin and ten, Dylan and say get a life. Get a picket fence and. He was lucky with anti. She was great to them, but I think in underneath it all he never and most people don't I don't think. Really believe that it was going to kill. Really believed that he thought he could think alcohol addiction, and until you get your head, and I, as an alcoholic I know. I just know my. There is no way in God's Green Earth. I could take a SIP. died six sexual nine months later. It just I just I really believe that I. Don't think many people believe that and I know he didn't I think he's still fighting skirt around the edge. I don't think I believe that it would kill me, but I knew that if I put a drug into my body that I would lose my kids, and like that was enough for me to be like I'm not I would kill you. That's full of death. I was ten years older than. I. I was born ten years before Christmas born, so I had a different set of sort of consequences for me, and also like when I was thirty three, or whatever like I was using and I was a total mess. You know what I mean so like. I can't put myself in his shoes on the whole thing. Have you. Have you been back to meetings ever since this happened and sort of you know. When, I I went to a because I think that. To me is the God sent to me. It's the greatest thing in the world. What I have done I happened to. Freely. A Catholic and so what I do go to mass every day. and. That's not a religious thing every day every day. I, don't go Saturdays. That's my day off and it's not a religious thing. Just every time I walk in, and it's only half an hour and I. Don't pay attention with anybody saying I know why I'm there. And just it's because it reminds me of not drinking anything and I think you almost have to do that. And on a scale of one to ten, maybe I was a foreign Christmas nine and a half, but you have to have a daily remained forever and I think what happened the cruces straight away from it and I don't see you have to to for thirty four years but I have to I. Think you have to have something daily. You tells you the benefits of being so and for me, that's it. Right and I know he knew the benefits, though it's just I think he forgot. What you said he wanted all the benefits, plus he wanted to be a little bit high. And I think that's what happened and he thinks he was too smart because he thought could get away with it. And if you really into or anything, you know, it's going to catch sooner or later on he had the. I mean Christmas so helpful in my own recovery. When we when we started doing dope, be I mean. Put it like this. I hadn't talked to Chris for Years Okay and We both met, we were both heroin addicts at mountainside side. He had been there for a few months. I just got there. We hit it off. We were very similar, but we were very different. We enjoy what we do Italian. Other stories and making each other laugh, and then for the next four years I relapsed, and he had his shit together he relapsed, and I had my shit together, and when it was the summer and I and Mike. Clean cleaning August. The August before we started doing. And and I knew Chris had two years when we started and I would call Chris every day because I. if Chris Could fucking keep it together, I was like. Maybe he can help me, and he did you know, and before that I would smoke pot like a heroin addict. I would smoke pot and he'd be like. I don't know if I'm that bad and he'd be like listen. If you don't do heroin again, you'll know you can smoke pot, but if you do heroin, you'll know you can't smoke pot next. That was a great criticism. And I thought he was very smart, but like the my point was that when we started dopey, he had two and a half years, and I had four months, and I got my four months because of him. You know what I mean like he like. He talked to me every day, and it was his take on addiction, which is like kind of this year as far out as you can be. And he destroyed his life with an inch of his life before that like when when Colin and Ted and that drunk driving and And and he was so grateful to have a life and I remember when he finished his online degree, and he was working at Kepala and all that stuff and he was just a person. You know what I mean. He wasn't the most special person he was. He was the worker among workers in that moment, and he felt it you know. And I think as he became the special person, he kind of forgot all that stuff, but the real weird question and we can never answer. It is like he told you the night before the drug test came back that he was clean. What do you think was in his head when he's telling that story? I hate said. I remember that very well. Aunt because I was one of US had to call so I called him and. said that at first before everybody got on the phone and Nice that you absolutely hate which is true of phony. You absolutely hated. If someone's talking about something that involves you on the side and you're in. The background can't hear what you're saying so I'm asking you straight-forward or you have used drugs and he came back with the OH. Come on, MOM! No I'm not. He got on that phone and had this idea that once again he could fool everybody and he did I mean he went on set it was you know everyone everyone that was close to him, said he wasn't using. And we called and said we're. We're getting some red flags is should we or not, and then he would argue like a lawyer like he always did, and could have had persuasive argument, and because he was bright, he he could convince you so in our mind. You know, win Arden's said that he said that we thought. He didn't run from a drug test he didn't. He didn't say the person that went in the House I. Believe said something like the place look need. He was sitting. There was no come on in. There's nothing cocky and they didn't notice anything strange about him. We thought we might have been wrong. We actually thought at the time that we were wrong. And? We work, but. I think the other thing with Chris. Is that I do believe? He was riddled with shame for most of his life in embarrassment about what he had created for our family, and his way of showing, it wasn't a beg and Grovel, but it was to actually do the opposite, which was to puff out his chest in double down, especially when he was using and I. It's interesting now I use him as an analogy I'd I just talked to a husband of somebody the other day and was saying. because. He was complaining about the behaviors when his wife is drunk. And I'm saying you have to look at in my opinion, the way family members get through this is they look at the person when they're using and the person when they're not is two different people, and you love the person always, but you love the person as they are. When they're not and you kind of have to just almost ignore the way you would ignore child throwing a temper tantrum about candy. They can't have and so I think when he was lying, he was trying to. And saying that drug test is gonNA come up clean. Me My opinion is I think he thought I've got one more day of using their onto me, and then I'm GonNa. Go back into treatment. I truly believe that. I don't know if this is true. My personal philosophy is that I. Don't think he tried Fenton all deliberately think he actually was laced with, and it's not because I don't think he ever would. But I don't my personal belief. Is that I? Really don't think he was trying to or anything like that I think. He thought he was going to have one big Hurrah, and by that afternoon. When he came back from class, he was going to have to come clean or win. Drug test came back. He was going to have to go back into the system and I think there was an enormous amount of shame for somebody who had been. Four and a half years sober in a in and out a sponsor and somebody working in the recovery industry about what that meant to his identity. And it's interesting. I think mom and dad mentioned this earlier in the session, but. I think Bob's always been afraid that his only context for who he was was this person who abused substances that like this. He was this tough guy. The drug persona was the only part of Christ I think he was gradually starting to see he could be a partner somebody who could be a graduate of college. He can be a therapist. He could be a great employee. He could be a sibling and a son. But I think I think this is the hardest part for family that I think was gonNA take another two three five years to come out as the identity that took over some of the pride he had in some of the other activities engaged in, and it's not to say that I think dopey would've continued to be a source of helping and I think he would have continued to grow into a complex person, but I, think at the time when this hit. He was between two worlds of who he was in his past, and where he was developing as a man down the road. And I think a lot of that reaction was almost. He just hoped either he was thinking. I'm going to get you know I'm going to have to go into treatment anyway. He was thinking if I sort of convince everybody. It may be. Won't I have to admit it to myself? That I actually relapse because I think he was probably struggling very much with how much he would lose if if he was back at day one at mountainside again well, the denial is off the charts. You know what I mean like because and I I, still struggle with anger about this to this day in regards to Chris because. Him and I spoke every day about recovery and addiction, and like it was, he would say to me all the time. How dopey was a tool that helps keep him clean. Also you know he would teach. And he would say I. Didn't think I could get this far I. don't think I would be this invested in my recovery. You know if if we didn't have to talk about this every week. If we weren't hearing from people and and Chris was like really good about responding to people's emails in these like. Very invested sort of ways like he would write long emails back to people, and he and and and we would deep dive into things about addiction where he would say something and I'd be like you sound like you're full of Shit, and then he'd be like you're right and then. His actual feeling about it, and it was like this it was this. Thing so so when and again it was because my friend had just died, and we had done like three episodes about my other friends death right before Chris died so like when it came up that he died I was so furious that like he keeps. Say something you know what I mean. I was a drug addict whose relapsed billion times. Our show is just full of drug addicts relapse billion times. You're not going to be so thought of any worse than you were and like it. Just I never considered for a second that the denial was so strong him that he just couldn't say it. You know I always been like. Why didn't he just say something you know, but he couldn't. You know obviously you, couldn't he? Didn't you know? It's. You know it's so sad and you. Say One more thing, so I've become talkative my. Dad's always thrilled. Grab the MIC again for the fiftieth time. I do think for me. This is one of the Times, and this again is my own philosophy on doubt but. For lack of more polite way to say it, I mean Shit happens like it was in the same way you talk about the confluence of events in your life, Chris was just learning how to be a good partner to somebody because he that was a new experience for him, he hadn't. He'd usually been using when he was with someone prior to any. He was learning what it meant to ballad school with an internship with part-time work, living alone and actually having adult responsibilities and he was. For lack of better word, white, knuckling his recovery experience, assuming that working in the field gave him enough. Attachment to the recovery field. He didn't need to do his own work and so. I think the way I looked at it saying that combined with whether it was a phony one or not a back injury. Doctor who didn't have his back, he went to a doctor wasn't his typical PCP was a physician who didn't know addiction background who gave him addictive medications? Blame the physician being Chris for not saying it but Longwood way of saying it was a confluence of a bunch of things that led to this and. It's why you know. He was the cat with nine lives, but. The phrase like if you keep putting your hand near the fire, it's only a matter of time before you get burned or whatever the actual correct phrasing of that I think really applies here. I really believe he just kept going closer and closer and believed he was invincible, and all these factors kind of swirled up into one bad thing and I think for for our family, and for the the only hope again have is that other families will see that and not assume that the person is going to be immune because they've gotten through five ten relapses and Ben Okay. His is a good example of how potent substances are and how one small move. Is the end right and I've heard from I mean. You hate the value of Chris's death me being a something, you hate to even be a possibility. But when Chris died, I was. I was so. Crazy I had a sponsor who wasn't my real sponsor like my sponsor and move to California. This other sponsor and new sponsor said. Chris Dying was carrying the message and I was like fuck. You and I liked I. Liked didn't work with them, but I was sick to hear someone say that to me. However I heard from so many people. WHO said they got clean, because because Chris Stop Chris died. So many people stop doing the things they were doing because this happened to Chris. And Like listenership grew, but listenership grew I believe this. It's because x amount of people that listen to this show. And they kind of came in and out of the show whatever and when Chris died, they needed to hear what happened to Chris and all of a sudden it'd doubled or tripled when Chris died because they needed to hear the story, they needed to hear what happened to him because they loved him, and they cared about him, and they saw him themselves in him. You know I mean so I know that there has been a result of Chris's death. That wasn't the the horrible thing. It is for you guys in for me, and for his friends and his family and I know that in the world it's it's done something else which is, it's very. You know not a real consolation you know. It's something you know it's and he does have a legacy from his work on our show, which is like a joke in itself, because it was such a jokey thing, but it it. It touched people in their hearts. And like I, get it like why I do not. I said, do you when when I met you the first time? I don't suggest you listening to the show. Painful and it's stupid, but it's got a ton of heart. and Chris's heart really showed in the show and I know. That countless people were affected by and. Like, there are parents to listen to the show who's lost their children, and there are other parents who listen to the show that are holding onto them. And and you can't like. What would you say to somebody who had a child who was an adult or child? And they're in and out of this thing like would would you give them different? Advise than you took yourself like. What do you blame yourself at all? Probably my thoughts would be I mean so recently. Arden told me to take this master class. program. To kind of sessions and different all different topics and I. Took this one with Robin Roberts from Good Morning. America and I was just about communication and honesty is very strange that this came up and she was talking about her mother, and she had been through a lot of physical problems and. The things in our life and she said everybody has something. And she said, but my mother said and her whole her whole session was on. Make your mess your message. And She said we've all got Baker mess you message and she said that's how that's how I got into communication. That's how I felt about it and honestly when you're talking. About the sponsor that you said. That's what in the end it did. Do both of you without realizing it? You've made your mess and it. Not to say that addiction is a mess, but it is a form of a mess for anybody, and it is your message. That is what your messages dopey. At least that's how I feel. That's your message issue story and I think in the end. That's one of the surprises that we learned about. Chris was that the mess was the message so. If you ask what we would say. You know have other parents do yes, this time that I feel like well. There could be something more could be a message that we should be able to give to other parents about this. Maybe that will come. It's just before for whatever reason whether it's raw whether it's our age I. Don't know it hasn't totally realized itself yet. But no I I. Don't think we I think there's many things that we wish we could have been aware of that. There's always the what happened. Why weren't we? Why didn't we know that? Why didn't we see that with any death? It's that way. But as far as blaming ourselves. I, feel and I think Peter, fields and arden, who is mentioned it just before. We, really did a lot of things with Christopher and really felt like there was a family life, and there were things that he enjoyed, and he loved and that when he was in trouble, there was some place to go, and it was typically home. He may not have wanted to go there and being out of been so pretty. But it was always available, and so we know. I don't think we have regrets about what we didn't do except that, we wish. We knew more. When you say what else can you do? It was like trying to make plans on a roller coaster. Things going up and down, and he's so he's he's off. He's everything is upside down and you reacting to the steep fall, so you never really chance to sit back and say what are we doing wrong and it was only towards. The end of not the right at the end, but the pride time that we had somebody dumped to me primarily and say you know. You're sort of like a chicken with your head. Cut Off. You should know more than you are, and you've got to separate yourself and was actually Diana. said. Why don't you? Tell Him. You're not gonNA talk for six months we. Run Lot of and said that and said you know you can't just react everything he does because he knows the arden is much more logical than you are, and you're just sort of the local punching bag. If he hits you here, you're going to react over there, and so we did that. That was some help, but as far as giving advice. It's almost like you can't tell somebody else. You know your son to do this because your son might be of. Addiction, scale and Chris was a nine and a half. It's like if my alcoholism is a three or four what I learned. Go to a and you'll never drink again. That wouldn't work for him because his addiction was so bad, so it's almost something you have to go through the pain yourself as a parent. And I'm not sure what the tell you accept that. Get some professional help. Is is once said is not choice in the medical profession, but someplace that says what you doing is failing over here. You become an enabler over there and. Then all of a sudden. Take whatever time frame you have and quadruple. Can Be cleaned up. He's going to severe addiction if he's going to be cleaned up in a year. Five years can use. We always assume these three years under spelt well home free the last time as off years under his belt. It's all set. It's never gonNA happen again. and Lo, and behold given the extent of his addiction. We probably should have said twenty years. Right, right, yeah. There's no telling right. There's no time in his addiction was so severe that I. I'm not sure he was ever coming out of it, but. We clearly at the front end thought. We sent him to this program out in Arizona and he'll be back at school by the second semester. Maybe everything's ducky. By the time we finished I'm praying that he stays with Cohen and then dill mountain and hope it doesn't come back to Boston because that's where we should be because that look like an ongoing. program. And yet. That's what that's not what he wanted to do. Right. Yeah, he would talk about that all the time. Did he ever? Did you guys ever talk like twelve step stuff, did you? Did he ever like? Ask You about it or was he too proud to go to you about the do it by that? Time I, you know. You need a sponsor. I wasn't that active in the program for the time I had fifteen twenty years of sobriety, and by that time in my degree of addiction wasn't serious. I wouldn't have been helped to them because what happened to me. Three or four years ago. I! Knew the problem with coming down the road because of my family history. I had a good friend. Go into the one of our. Edgy show, which is one of the few inpatient programs those days thirty years ago and I, said well if he's doing it maybe I. I stopped. That wasn't Jemaine. Christopher I never drank again. and. So that's not I couldn't even part that it wouldn't make any sense. It was gone, but just saying up Yay next Tuesday. Don't drink anymore and myself. On this particular individual. We hung on to each other dearly for about two or three years going day for three or four years, and then as I said I went to church, because that's what constantly brought it to my head, so why experience had nothing to do with his experience, because his addiction was worse than my addiction and needed somebody who was very active day. Like yourself who's been through the drug? Use the drug in my life so I don't understand that. I go to a because I. Find it to give me the tools. I need to deal with this thing. You know and and I. And I don't go every day. I go a few times a week and I talked to a sponsor, and I talked to a ton of addicts and I talked to a bunch alcoholics and. I, just don't WanNA. Lose this. I caught my way back from the edge of the world to this represents stability for you to stick with I. do it because. I I WANNA. Be S., ha I ruined my life. You know what I mean like I ruined. I'm forty six years old. When I was forty one, I had a kid, and I was a waiter, and I had a little bit of cash because I was a waiter, but I had nothing, and I had a lot of dreams, and I none of what I wanted to do. Work it up for me, you know. And I said when I was forty one like I I had just started to fix my family and I relapsed again and. My daughter's mother knew about it, and she was like she took away custody from me and that's when I realized I couldn't fight this fight anymore like that was it was a moment. I always wanted a moment, and that was my moment where I was I was writing her. A letter I remember I was sitting in new. York City is sitting on the lower east side and I'm writing an email sweating smoking cigarettes, probably smoking pot, begging her to let me smoke pot, and have the kid and I looked at myself, and I looked at the screen and I was like what am I? What am I fighting for here? And that's when I was like I gotta try something else, and and that's and. I. Never gave it an inch bag because I knew that I would lose. All this stuff you know and I think I think Chris, you know. You WanNa say it could never happen or if he had, this could have happened. All we have is what happened. You know what I mean all we're all we're left with. Is this tragedy and And I have to say like. You know for the years that we dope for two and a half years three years. You know and. We did it in Manhattan, and then he got tired of driving an end, and we decided to come here and and we'd come here when you guys weren't here and. And it's very painful to come here. You drive out here and I drove out here. Thinking like maybe I'll see Chris. It represents of course, but seeing you guys I see Chris. You know what I mean. You both have. All three of you have a ton of Chris in you and he had a ton of you in him and it's. I can't imagine how you guys live with him. Not being around, you know what I mean like for me. For Me Chris Existence for me, it was almost like a dream like it was. It was this intense period of time, and it was captured in a fucking podcast you know, and it's very weird and surreal, and he's gone, and it remains, but for you guys. It was your life and it was. He was your life and you were heads I. I can't imagine you know like what you guys have to live with. You know we always assume it's GonNa go away this. You always say time heals everything. In this particular case, it doesn't in as I said before. You put up. Face in front of everybody, because you don't want act like a sad sack, and when they say how you doing, we're doing it and art and said that. You go through. Life doesn't mean you don't doesn't mean you don't. Enjoy, what you're doing, but you life is different than it was two years ago, and it's never gonNA back. But you hope that some things that guest you had all this. Turmoil and as he went to put your hope that there's some things that you. Pick up from Chris like you, said he, he. Didn't like a lot of accolades. He also would correct things in you. He would correct anything that he thought. If you weren't telling the truth, or if you were sort of shading the truth, he really called you on it and you sort of they okay well. This time like we I talked to him every day and I say I'm trying. I'm trying to do what you would have you the good parts of you that we all love and Serious about that. That's about the kind of thing that you think of when you when you're missing. Your child is that there's good things that are somewhere that somewhere came out and him that maybe you can expand upon. It's strange. Given what he put us through for ten years. You'd like to sit around and feel sorry for us. We actually learned an awful lot, yes. He was an extraordinarily generous. He wasn't jealous of anybody else's excess. He didn't blame. Anybody else was problems and actually made his people which was really asa. Yes, that's what I meant. Exactly what I meant in so many ways to so difficult is one you thought. You thought thought you beat the game. You thought after four years. You're probably there. You should have known better at least I should've as an alcoholic that. It's a never ending. It's always there thirty four years later. There's still an edge. But it's I think when you looked at him. You've got to see for four and a half years. What an extraordinary individually was! I, don't WanNa the. Magazine we. A lot Seattle failings. But most more moral failings, heating was an extraordinarily decent human. Definitely definitely was I. Mean and one of the things I like to say about him. He was he was young, but he didn't seem young. No, and and he was like anchronistic. Very much person out of time. Yes, he wasn't like a fucking idiot like these idiots what I mean, you could talk to him about something that happened one hundred years ago or fifty years ago or like when he would always talk about one man crushed gray like he he. Interesting. Sorry yes, exactly what he's had these unique ability to be able to couple things from. Things that you would never understand or read things that you'd say you read that you think this is. This is the same guy that's giving you. All this trouble is doing this or interested in that and carry it to the nth degree and laugh about it. He's he had such an interesting personality that. As a very tough person to to duplicate or to miss. Just, just being cousin, his uniqueness loser Tampa was somebody in a store or restaurant. Act differently when he was there, it was really peculiar. I always tell you just say say this of him tagging example. Store, she'll tell you an example. Just an example. I went to the store right here in Southampton to the cheese shop, and I have no patience. None and we went in there together Chris and I and They said. What kind of sandwiches do you want? Okay, we'll you that you have to go up in the front and pay for a walk up in the front kind of sandwiches. They. Told me to tell you know you have to get the slip from them. Go back to get the slip from them. But what about this is an honor to have any extras? I, go back and the thing I lose. And I stood there and I said. Excuse me what doing it and Chris looked at me that this has to stop right now. Right now, said drift. This has to stop. And I remember. Being my face got all I remember being so embarrassed, and then I remember thinking about a few days later and saying don't thanks I said I was I. Get I get I have no patience I blow up when when things aren't right, but peters right, you would never. You would think twice before you did something. Do Anything to someone beneath you in other. If you want to go I'm in the real estate business phone to punch of real estate developer, those soapy it. But if I wanted to punch somebody shoveling at the construction site, he'd go craze. He was very courteous to people on a different social scale than he was on, and he taught you that. To be very aware of everybody around. And he also because he knew he was down when he was down, he was shoulder to shoulder with whoever so he can relate to them. They're actually yes. It wasn't some just smart as rich kid. He was just. He was a smart rich kid, but he wasn't just some smart. I mean I mean. We the reason that the show was good was because Chris had this ability to be brilliant and idiotic at the same time like the best raise I ever heard about. It was like you. Guys are at the dumbest smart guys we ever like and like we never tried to be smart. We want it to be. Chris would always coming with some smart stuff and like his, he knew everything about drugs. He knew everything about addiction. He knew everything about the chemistry. Some House and he knew everything about recovery because he had been to so many treatments and he. was drilled into him, so we would like almost like a football game I would do the play by play, and he would be the analyst, and he would just have all of the material and it was was. Very magical do such a dumb show that we did and. There is no replacing him. You know in any capacity because. You know he was that guy. He was exactly how you described him. You know so special and. They're unusual like he was an unusual person. Yes, yes and. You know I just WanNa. I don't WanNA, stop talking about it because I think this is a great way to keep them alive. You know what I mean and. I appreciate you guys agreeing to do this. You know what I mean like I understand. Why can be painful and I hope there's some kind of solace that like. He has a legacy as weird as that. Is. You know, thank you. Thank you for this and thank you for caring for son so much. This is this is a good thing. Well, I mean I love. Chris and. I know how much loved you guys to like he he knew like how much family loved him, and he and he loved you guys, and like another thing and I. Don't know if I told you guys. This I'm sure I've said it on the show a million times. Is that the night before me and Chris were fighting at the very end of the show a lot like because he was using, and and he wasn't showing up to do the show, and when he would do the show, it was not good. And I was just like I was like. Do I do the show. I just thought he was done. I just thought he wasn't interested. I thought like he had moved on with his life, and he wasn't interested in doing the show and. The night before he died, he told me how much he loved me and that. How important our friendship was and how important the show was, and how he's just going through something and it was like like. It's like it was such a gift to have that conversation like you know. I didn't have to happen that way. You know what I mean and. You know. It's it's weird, and obviously it's. It's a tragedy that we can't. Really you know. We can talk about this that and the other thing, but it's I'm very grateful. That I got to have that conversation with him before he died, you know. And? I'm grateful that we got to do this, you know, thank you and thank you for honoring his his memory in. Honestly I'm really thrilled. That is such A. I think he would be overwhelmed by the support of everybody in the dopey nation for sticking not only with the podcast. But the amount of support, the amount of people have gotten dopey nation Twos, just people. They have tattoos. Say Dobie toodle. toot on them. Yeah I. Think I think it's the Best Testament to the quirky personality ad that was very understated, but very much a big heart, and really wanted to help, so thank you. Oh, it's like I. do it because I want to. You know what? I mean I. Don't do it like I. Think Kristie because he wanted so. We did because we had joy from like. Anything else is just like a side effect. I also think that the reason that Dobie meant so much to him was because it could. He didn't have to put anything on. He could be a smart ass. Kid. Be Total drug addict. He could be aside candidate. He could be a kid from a good family, and he could be the person that fucked it all up because he didn't have to see. Anything and I think that was freeing for him. Absolutely so anyway, thank you guys. Says much. So that was pretty fucking painful, right? And! There's a lot of things. It was. I, said it in the thing it was the craziest thing was how much they look like Chris and I kept wondering what they they look like. They look exactly like Chris, which means they probably look like each other, but they didn't look each other. They look totally like Chris and their accents kind of merged two forms Chris's crazy accent and makes sense at crisis mode so smart because that's all I kept. Thinking is like what a smart family garden is so. FREAKY BRILLIANT! You know like I could hit. Listen to her talk. I just wanted her to keep talking and. His mother was so eloquent. And his father had such. You know you know old school wisdom. We love his concerts his. Comment about the t shirt. which I just really stuck with me. How can you explain that better than I could? Think. That I think it was like an old school. A fan where you're like you're the guy who wears the itchy shirt, and somehow you stop scratching. You get used to it. Comfortable in the itchiness and it becomes a normal shirt and he didn't think that ever happened for Chris and I WANNA thank. Chris's parents Abbas like they didn't have to do this. I thought it would be good for the donation to hear the story of where Chris came from and to see the Wiki left. Derek in his past. They weren't so humble so honest. and. Broken. You know like it was. And I say that with only love like I didn't know what they were gonNA. Be Like when I got there and as soon as I got there I'm sure me. Being there didn't make them overwhelmingly comfortable and joyful, because I am a remnant of Christmas past so like I'm sure it conjured up the pain, but the pain was very evident on their faces. It was two years ago. It's not a long time now. It's not in the history of his life and his five. Serie, so it's a lot we recorded. We re done a different thing. We had gotten their art and suggested that we record in the front of the House, so we set up in the front of the House. And I started the interview by saying. How are they doing? And they both started crying immediately. Wow, and there was so much traffic in the street. I was like. I was like ten minutes in and crying and traffic. Let's go to the back of the House instead and I. I I'm not I'm not Geraldo Rivera. Dying I sell Donahue Yeah I'm not dying for tears on the show, but like it was very clear that they are broken, and that it is, they can put on a face, but it's GonNa take a long time for any kind of healing to happen, and it probably will never fully healed, and that's the deal you know and. But I think it was. Important you know. We did a show about the dumbest things we did in addiction and recovery and Chris overdosed and died and his family still here and I think their voice on the show is really important absolutely. And since it is Dopey, and it is Chris. Show I want to play some Chris know and we need. We need some Chris Bets needs some some bits of Chris. The first thing I'm going to play. It's like this whole. Let's see what we got this. This is my I think. We played this before, but it's my favorite thing. Is this your favorite Chris bet no, but it's one of them. It's one of my favorite Chris Stories which is lonely space. Did I tell you? Did you do only space with me the last time we did this? I don't know what that is lonely space. When when Chris met this woman that he called Olga on the show, who actually was Annie's roommate? He tried to court her by making podcast with her. And making a show, and she was interested in helping the homeless, so he was going to make a podcast with her about helping the homeless, and they were going to call it lonely space, okay? When I found out about it. I got so upset because I thought. He was going to be done with Dobie, so he was to just only do lonely space. Yes, join hair! Yes, so Chris in Helga. Go to frank, the local homeless man in Boston. I would talk to my way home. He's out one of the stoplights and the document for months. He was still very ears and I'd always chop it up with them for a minute or two on my hall. And you decided that he would be the greatest Ghazi inaugural guest for this podcast so Chris doesn't have anywhere to take him, so he takes to his parents house. It's Chris Helga and the homeless Guy Frank Guy's girlfriend, so he brings to my parents house, which was incredibly stupid dobie nation. They live in a hotel with Doorman Valet parking. He's doing. He's doing all of this to impress. How good I think she'd already been. No, she hasn't been no. No, no, you did all you. Didn't know where to. Find, know what impresses her is that you're such a man of the people? You're going to bring the homeless guy and his girlfriend to your parents, house. In Virginia you give them food. Yeah, gave one hundred books through. A box whatever man ask for? Did you earn that hundred dollars? Plus when tears mad. At your parents house. Give them your parent's money. Record. How much like an hour he tells stores does. Okay, and then he leaves, and then Chris Calls Me and he tells me. He tells me he's done podcast with this girl about homelessness. I lost my mind. I was so angry. Because he's he's launching podcast without mean an like. And I didn't understand how shallow Chris was, and that he was just using this as a tool to the girl. I was devastated then. Chris Ryan runs into Fram. Oh my God. That was not a gash way. Walked right to frank praise like hey, man. How's Louis? Coming out. Doors Soon Chris I think it dynamite frank. PODCAST has legs than I. Know podcasts easily Chris Every day like it's coming. Weeks and weeks and weeks passed, and then the months and months and months, and is still go. And then frank has finally gotten in his head. That lonely space is not happening, but he's like. Do think I could just get the report. And, then you. Could get the recording. This goes while flash. Drives are very expensive I'm their dollar in your. And what Chris is really saying is you? Don't have a computer frank. How are you ever going to play the? You're recording one hundred. Just talk to yourself. You can hear your story. About before like the food. MAYBE U2 We're laughing at. Because he's holidays so bad will. He makes more money than I. GET FROM A. Very insensitive to the homeless world fifties, awesome timing everything I've said it's been very very insent. No, we, we know where it's coming from. We know your heart's in good place so I. Love that one just because I love making Chris Laugh. US such a crazy laugh. This is one that everybody loves. This is one of Christie's most legendary episodes was his first jail stories episodes because Chris was obviously this very very like smart and stable kid who wound up doing a year and a half in prison, in California and this is the story of when he got into a prison riot. So they started over something the Mexicans and blacks they start literally fighting. There's riot and Tyler comes towers in my cube and he's like he yells out. Your Woods semi dollar woods have to come in and join the Mexicans right and so then all the Asians come in and join the blacks so vice on are still by themselves through the thing so. Like eighty five ninety percent is not a ton of those are fighting right, so I'm out in the middle and. You said it's a fire right so there's just one little Asian Dude. And so I just like brand to attack them and. ENDED UP FEW ROUGH HIM UP I ended up punching him lightly in the year as he ran away, and then the guards came in and the pepper spray it all. We went back to ourselves and literally the next day the Asian Guy. Walking the walk by Cube is. In General Vision Nawab remake you like. I? I was like I. Like struggling like sorry man. Lavi it's okay. So funny and I just. I fucking struggle with Chris being dead so much and be hard for you to hear him, and these it's weird. The whole thing is just weird. It's like. It's like a dream that we that we did dopey together. It's like it's like a dream. The dream, or is it like a dream that he's not here? Like which one is more surreal? Now dopey as the stuff we did together is more real because this is life now he's not around. I mean they're both just as surreal, but it's just weird. Because Ninety eight percent of our conversations, all got recorded on our podcast. And and we had such a good time. You know and I. Say a million times over and over like I didn't know he was using and the show was suffering when he was using, but it was because he was using. You know what I'm saying like. When he was sober, we were so funny in the show is so good and. You know the whole thing is incredibly painful. In will never have another It'll never be like it was, and it just shows like how crazy it is to lose. Somebody who's really special and I'm sure. A lot of people in the audience have lost somebody themselves and. Makes me want. Obviously I could play Chris, clips all day and I want to hear more. There's one hundred and forty three. Episodes with Chris in forty two episodes of threats, so feel free to listen to them. I can play you another one. Join Another I. WanNa hear a lot more all right. I'll play. This one I just think is funny. Okay, there's this dude. He was irregular. Cats is. Very famous bass player. His name was Leland sklar. He played on the Taylor's record. He played with the Eagles. He played with Linda Ronstadt. He played with. Carole. King and he was on a tour with James Taylor when he was like shooting dope and he was on the tour with eagles when they're fucking. snorting coke and he was just like this big time big time, rock and Roll Bass player and I knew from cats is and I figured he'd come on and tell us all. These crazy drugs stories. I Am Chris had no idea who he was. He couldn't wear and this wasn't a music person. He was the opposite. So you. WanNa give away first of all. He's like he's like he's like a Mike killed his sister. It's like it's like Zubaydah was like fucking. What Yard? Bobby! Ana. Base. Creates. It was so funny the first interview. We can't play because I'm still Leland. Tell me. You came up in in the age of total coke, excess and alcohol you know. Could you tell me a little bit about that? He goes. I've never drank or done a drug. If my way. His face just turn. Turn Way, and then he's like looking at me and that's where the evil begins. I'm asking him. I'm like so Leland telling you how? The. The most of Badger debaucherous tour in creating purpose Dave. You're doing good. I go tell me about the most debord this dude toward with the worst drug. We're also really goes. Well I have to say none of the. Is and Chris. He's. Davis mouth, stopping my favorite thing when he says Oh are you Bobby Boucher because he's never heard of anybody and I just love clips. We both die laugh. That's the best. Now, this is another classic Chris Story which he called Cheapie Hammer Story. And everyone. Everyone loves the cheapie Hammer. Story Ready Ready. So fuck in. Sober living it was. This shooting job and they tell me they're so cheap and they're like. You have to bring your own hammered because you have to drive nails live. and. I've worked construction when I was like thirteen. I'm like twenty one now. And so I go to fucking broke. Out I pay my own. Pay For everything. And they're gonNA. Be Making nothing and it just out of this rehab in this Riyadh. You work for the at the end. They pay you some money, and then you can leave. So I had like two hundred bucks not in baby food now. and. So I go to the store to buy a hammer a fucking. Day. Look at the hammers in the hammers are like. Fifty bucks like expensive. Jack. Hammers. Fifty Bucks. The Space Age Hammers One lucky well. I guess it's like all hammers. That I should be getting are like at the least forty bucks and finds. Small hair off to the side. I didn't know this. But I guess. Like. Attack Hammer. Pictures like in an apartment like this. And the other humidor for like drive nails like carpenters. Get this little. I read the work in east the first day of work right and I come in and one of the El Salvadorian like form ends. He sees numbers. Bull Morrow and Morrow Ceesay it. He sees my hammer, and he just starts crying laughing and he grabs Hammersmith I either in front of everybody. He holds the hammer up above his head. She pinches it between his fingers. The holds his highs. Can right and everybody in stops looks at it and he looks at me. cheapie Hammer. A dying laughing in the rest of the time I was there. Everybody called me Cheapie Hammer degree story. And then I got high with Eddie at off. And, now was part of the story that I'll never tell Dobie, but he ended up overdosing and my friends sober living, and that was the end of that job. Keeping Hammers, he'd be half. Are I just? I love any such a good storyteller. How he starts the story with fucking. That's how we will evolve talk I know it's crazy. And then he alluded to this thing at the end the story he refused to tell yeah that. People. Write me about this all the time. There's a story that he refused. Though. and. He decided the only time he would tell. The story is if already came on the shop so? For some reason I I just figured I knew Chris and I knew the story you refused. You know the story, not really I know but I knew that the story. He told on Dobie that he refused to tell them soap dopey wasn't going to be as good as half the stories told on Dope because that's just how he was, and when we went to hoboken to do the already Lang, thing, we both told each other a story that we would tell that day on the already. Episode and Kris told me a story involving Eduardo. And I don't remember the details. I really don't I was really really nervous about already and I was really focused about that water star. All right all I know is that. Chris didn't get gay in the story, but it was like there's. Some gay action, but he didn't get gay. That's why this story wasn't that good, but maybe they might have been some touching. There was an allusion to homo erotic action. Possibly with award out possibly, but I have to say for the record I don't remember the story like I. Really Don't, but it was something like that, so if anybody's curious about what the story is at some gay stuff with Eduardo. Christmas resident ps I love you, but you know already came on the show. You never told the story. And and we'll never know about Edouardo. Grave. Now. Again it's such a thrill. It's such a sad thrill. I mean it's weird like it's a thrill to have an audience. It's a thrill to have an audience who cares. It's a thrill to have strangers all over the world to know you. And Know How sad it is, that Chris died and miss him and and miss are dynamic like I know. Lots of people love Chris Way more than me. But the two. It's the two of you together. The chemistry I think is what is. So powerful, and and first of all I want to thank. Wooster was to gave us all these clips worst to gave us another batch of dopey art. wist is very mysterious teacher somewhere in New England. And Greet member of the dopey nation and there so many amazing members of the dopey nation who do so much stuff and One of these great members of the dopey nation. She calls herself the dopey ferry. You probably know her as misty Johnny and. She fucking somebody texted me today. Price another dopey nation guide text today he said. Do you think joe? Rogan has anybody making bootleg Joe Rogan merchandise. and. Misty makes the coolest dopey bootleg off mass. Cool as shit. And she wrote this beautiful thing and Linda Reta and she's like I. WanNa read it, so let's hear it okay. So. This is what she misty posted for. dopey day. and. I really liked it. So this is from misty. Why the Dopey is about four years ago I I was struggling with my recovery and could feel myself falling back to a place that I hope to God i would never go again. I stumbled on this podcast. Almost from its conception, it was just these recovering heroin addicts, telling funny, not funny stories of their debaucherous behavior during active addiction, they made me laugh and kept me company during my lonely nights at work each week. My heart grew fonder of these two friends and I was hooked. Their laughter was contagious, and I began to not feel quite so lonely. Don't be began to grow in ways. I cannot imagine these guys were proof that we can can and do recover, and that recovery is not boring that we will again one day laugh about the dumb shit. We did. In fact. The podcast is all about drugs, addiction, Dumb Shit and recovery than episode. One forty three Dave comes on the air and informs us that the worst thing that could happen. It happened his friend and podcast partner had relapsed and died. I still have a hard time with just how devastating. This was to me. Of course, the fans all reach out the Dave, and to each other to for comfort and support, and the dopey nation was born. and very proud to be a founding member of this group. I had found thirty five. Hundred of my people are rules for this group. No matter what compassion was no matter. What compassion for all no matter where you're at is key. Are you a methadone? Are you on Methadone or subs? Good on you. At least you're instilling from your parents and sticking a on your neck, still smoke weed cool still actively using all okay harm reduction. You Bet your ass because dead people can't recover, but here is but here. Is what I really found. I found friends in this community actual real friends they check in on me I check in on them I. Haven't had that since before high school. We have meetings. We celebrate our victories with each other as well as greed with each other I have support groups that is unlike anything I've ever experienced. And I swear, it's magic. My husband has seen the transformation that I have gone. Gone through and absolutely something connection with Dopey as why, because that is exactly what it is is a connection without shame I no longer have to keep my dirty toxic pass a secret in no longer bottles up inside me until I can't handle it I. Never I never even knew that connection like this existed. I know that we all know someone we love who is affected by addiction. Tell them about dopey. Stay strong, dopey nation and fucking tools for Chris I know you're proud of us. We Miss You, but thank you so much for bringing us together. So beautiful, yeah, so well written and misty just does so much good stuff, and I want to name a few people and I. Know I'm going to leave a bunch of people out. Some people that have been incredibly helpful are obviously. The facebook administers administrators Andrew Catherine Paulina Leah. fucking the new dopey nation. Street team Scott Dan Matt fucking. Aaron Kira Sam is always instrumental Aurora always helps out. Brad picks up with thing here and there Greg trainer steps in when it's needed so many graphic designers throw their amazing work into the fray. Nick Does Amazing Work Did that thing nate fucking. The amount of involvement is just so cool. There's a woman in dopey nation. Who did a fucking Tattoo today on herself. Her name is Jessica that serious commitment. Anybody Dopey Tattoo I. Salute You I think there needs to be more adobe tattoos, yes. I'M GONNA play. Some music before we're done some Chris Music. What's Chris Music? What's Chris Music? We have? I mean like everybody gets me I hear two sides of the coin with this. I refuse to do Chris Tributes without band playing baby back ribs, and without playing. The Lion Sleeps tonight. 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BAKKT - Manipulation Or Normal?

The Trader Cobb Crypto Podcast

08:57 min | 11 months ago

BAKKT - Manipulation Or Normal?

"London listen up we will be with you taking a checklist by trading strategies on the back of the say-say form October twelve at the Queen Elizabeth Conference Prince Center. If you want to learn these trick was based trading strategies that employ for quite some time you. WanNa learn it in person. Get yourself booked. Now we have thousands of people let's say say form and the event will sell out quickly from there we move on to Malta on the ninth of November. It'll be at the Intercontinental Hotel in multiple also backing talking on to the back of an event which Mulbah and blockchain summit a guy thousands of people expected to get you'll quickly for multi straight across the pond a Singaporean fool November sixteen at Marina Bay sands another event we attacking onto the end of which is called block show again this thousands of people so if you WANNA come along get in there quick finally back in Sydney on the twenty third and twenty fourth at the Ridges World Squares with London Malta Singapore unique to get yourself along to these events. If you WANNA learn the Chiklis based training to employees and use daily very simple stuff guys gotta try to call Dot Com forward slash global and book your spot right now well Good Morning Ladies and gentlemen. It's an interesting morning in Dade. Welcome to Try Okuda podcast and I'm GonNa take you through what I'm seeing right now today because Gene Kimba George Heaven wasting beautiful just a bit of full. It's Gush Don Doozy of a full now his what the conspiracy theorists will suggesting this all to do with backed and you could be right look. You're odd you do not know but alone is this. The market has moved and we. We've got opportunities again now. It's unfortunate for a couple of reasons. The first thing that's unfortunate is there was a wonderful uptrend sitting up at the Amana theorem dollar. Yesterday was just absolutely the wonderful wonderful looking child before I li- doubtful for the afternoon slept until six thirty in the morning that's right ladies and gentlemen that is how much rubbing going for an hour exhaust. Sometimes you need. You're listening to your boarding wake up some morning and see theorem having bottomed out at like one fifty four in the one five. Three's an incredible move down now. It's gone from being beautifully in an uptrend beautifully banks right back down to create that's right new lows within this most recent move throughout two thousand and two thousand ten actually without within the lie last apart second half off of two thousand and not getting during September now looking at the markets right now. I'm going to start with bitcoin. Is this box thing. Let's just check this out on the charts swelled. It's been messing until yesterday. when we did see the breakdown now go site here for you will is that wrought now. We do have the weekly having broken down low high now. We have a Lola yes indeedy in Daddy. Daddy we have seen the mock push down and we've got now a weekly downturn downturn and this was the point at which I was waiting to make my decision as to what direction or any directional things occurred you know i. It really was anything off. Significance are on it breakdown. It's breaking down. It's moving law now. Working we go from here while we can really go from anyone so we can really go anywhere from here but if I look at the monthly wrought now it's about point back into that cradles line and really I right now. Look we could have found a boat him. I could have because Jesus you know I'm not here to try and call tops and bottoms. You know that's not my gig tried to chunk in the middle of my contract short and contrite long so from my point of view interests it stands. I think we could get down to date seven thousand we could go further but that's the bottom end of McChrystal's line for the time being will change as a month does turn over the probably a decrease a little bit fraught from right. Now is a little bit too much going on. There is some support nine thousand one hundred twenty six on the next show which is a quite a while wrought wrought nabet videos very volatile. I'll be looking to try to much for today unless we do seek collapsed once again and gets good soliciting there in the market but the good thing seizes. I can try to shoot. Some of my students will have taken some shorts because appointed some house to get involved. Yes to that so right now. bitcoin tonight thousand in seven hundred nineteen down ten percent today a theory and against the one sixty nine sixty six cents down fifteen point seven one percents spiked before as broke breakdowns Naci levels trends no longer now. Trenton way back into no trends biggest move of the buses is one of the biggest movies of the Budgies toodle and ninety eight that sense. It's down twenty one point nine one percent now much It's broken down through that three month that had held US quite some time. It's got some more sports a toodle study which we have not yet tested still limits. Welt w-e-l-t a wonderful world. We live in very predictable as markets. When we say a pump we also see dump. and Stella has been very good symbol of that of light we saw move of what I in a half percent followed by thirty percent cool at thirty nine percent of of course straight back down to new lows not quite new lows this year but definitely still bleeding quant heavily fought three cents down fourteen point nine central now excel pays a twenty three twenty three point nine cents down ten percent again quote a dip dip a quarterback for the last. It'll purity's I pretty average looking shot dot full now law coin unfortunate for lot twenty nine. It was a nostril cradle Kennel until we break down without thought ain't percentage fifty seven even Dole's sixty cents looking quite wake indeed the cash a whopping twenty three point eight percent decline today two hundred twenty two thousand fifty six cents. It's I massive move. One of the news held. Dan Rents lows throughout the session. It has not seen any bounce whatsoever really it's very bearish mockup and it continues a full bonnet abundance another one that sculpt an absolute flogging down sixteen percent that puts it at sixteen dollars and seventeen cents and makes me very happy for ending my long twenty thirty dollar mock from back earlier in the big moves going on right now. I'm into from sitting around at twenty three just a few days guy sitting sixteen doubles right now yup. That's painful by of your Toronto. It's a one point two cents down twenty percent right now and again very average looking Joe. These Alz have unwound any guys that they were having pretty much entirely looking down fifteen point four percent. Damn look three point night sentenced to finish it off. Let's ran this out with the biggest decline of the top top ten BS at eighty dollars and ninety one cents down twenty six point seven seven percent as I speak to you right now. It has been carnage. It will continue to be a very volatile. Today would be my prediction but the good thing is portrayed as well. We just gotTa White old top ten Lincoln drive at margin guys. Let's just wait and say founded opportunities and be patient today. God I forget as well if you're in London multi-role singable oil willing to travel. Oh so if you're sitting for that matter we got a series of different opportunities for you to come along to one day with me. That's right London in October. Thirteenth Fourteenth Singapore multiples in Singapore following up in Sydney didn't of course if you are Australia Adelaide and Perth is fast approaching as well get across to try to call dot com forward slash global going to going on now. Suspect what we're doing that you can say the curriculum bright. Daniel learn the crypt. I cry you what you need to make sure that you can make money with them. I goes up or down have a great deal of this gentleman. Bay Saif crazy crazy make sure panic is emotion won't help you speak in very soon. Baath now London listen up way we'll be with you taking a checklist by trading strategies on the back of the CC form October twelve at the Queen Elizabeth Conference Center. If you you want to learn these trick was based trading strategies employed for quite some time you Wanna learn it in person. Get your self booked. Now we have thousands of people at the form and in the event will sell out quickly from there we move on to Malta on the ninth of November. That'll be at the intercontinental hotel in multiple also backing onto the back of of an event which is multi and blockchain summit a guy in thousands of people expected to get your sport quickly for multi straight across the pond to Singapore November sixteen at Marina Bay sands another event. We attacking onto the end of which is called block show gain. This is got thousands of people of you. 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We Edge Closer To Up Trends

The Trader Cobb Crypto Podcast

06:39 min | 1 year ago

We Edge Closer To Up Trends

"Today's episode is proudly brought to you by try to cops the double bay dot com. Join up for the free biweekly video newsletter with myself my table, keep you up to date on the moves that are in this crypto market now if you want to learn how to make money within the market goes up or down go to try to call dot com. Now. Vitrey to call crypto show talking business influx. Jane? Get everybody and welcome to try to come crypto shy. What are the third day of two thousand and nineteen many of you will still be a holiday into you. Am. Having good time. Really by the markets have opened up a little bit more. And we have seen a push to the upside. Once again across the top ten for the most part on the third of January, and yeah, it's it's we are starting to see some creeping to the upside. And of course, this can shift at any moment, we know this excuse me by sounding a little bit nicely. I've still going to go still this call Buddha. Get the loss it'll be data me, but I still sound a little bit more Skokie than usual that anyway coming back to the markets. We up one point five percent he on bitcoin. Now as I said yesterday in creeping aspect coin watching these highlights the first highlight. Is it three seven seven one. If we can break above the high of full thousand one hundred we will have a intraday or micro uptrend with the real catalyst for the move. I believe to look a lot more boys, or at least short term some upsides. Maybe five thousand is if we can break them up four three eight four and h die that we are up. We are creeping towards that. Now, bitcoin as the lowest of the all no, not not quite Neo is the lowest mover of the top ten, but bitcoin is one of the lowest sides of it only at one point five percent. Oh, sixty dollars but him against dolla has certainly had another phenomenal die, and it continues to be the token within the top ten that he's leading the market out. There is no doubt about that. At all it continues to push on looking really really strong with the mind just making back. Some of those guiding us are similar losses throughout the year. Of course are threat law. Of course, a theorem gang. Absolutely one of the slaughterhouse trading pass from its high around fourteen hundred dollars all the way down to a love. I believe who was eighty three dollars. So it's not a safe theorem regaining a little bit more of it some shine and pushing on with just about two new daily highs, the high bang set at one sixty three fifty that was a couple that was that was lost Jeep to die. We've paid to one sixty to seventy two some getting there. It also has an office trend on the four out of the starting to breakout from his Ryan and get some momentum going. So that's really good to see as well. It's a ten point one seven percent. Bitcoin cash is up two dollars at one point two percent affiliate subdued trading. Die from bitcoin cash considering s tonight was up while I think ten percent today. It's a theorem lauding. The Y Eos is up toodle ninety five. So I not only father. He's at two dollars ninety five up twenty one cents which is seven. Point nine percent. Currently speaking again, it has broken that interdit trend into intraday range into an uptrend Stein to look a little bit more positive than got Don is also had a pretty good day. It's up five point four percent described. Just creeping along to the upside relayed sites, looking quite not hope to see these pay is gain a little bit more my mental. That's really what we're off to hear his say the momentum carry through to more buys more. Upside would be wonderful to save because we haven't seen it such a long time in two thousand nine hundred having a bull market would certainly be welcomed by me. And I'm sure all of you, the listener. Case looking here. Still the loehmann's. It's only up two point five percent. And it doesn't look all that strong. When compared to a lot of the others in the top talent can talk about the daily chop. But it's up much motorcycle at in that neigh struggling on at one point one two percent, but holding a very Saad ways taught consolidation day very much the same as what a us iza and theory will looking lock prior to their moves to the upside. Speaking of which is Reza four point seven percent today. It is currently trying to break the to a new hire high within this trend currently the higher that is studying on ninety two and we currently sitting the heart hide today's thirty nine eighty one. So very very very close to pushing onto new introduction. New daily highs within this trend looking really good at four point seven percent ripple. Slow down two point four four percent is hauling within that range once again grinding along it has been chipping away. It's just don't had anything major move was lot coin as well. Tick tick tick tick tick up three point nine two percent still within that sideways range cord there on the daily the end on the four hour. So that's a top ten guys. There is some opportunity out there. The markets are starting to move. And it would be a good opportunity. If you are hold is when you wanna learn a tried to get across to try to club dot com. Hi, fantastic died, ladies and gentlemen. I shall speak to again tomorrow Baath now. The trade. Cub crypto podcast is hosted by Craig called ultra-cold courses products and tools can be found at Tradenkov dot com. Because experience met is. Many of those those may number Leandro yesterday sold on Brigham and soccer, but in for less, decadent moslo courses, try to call an Espanol and the militia ever see the salmon that com commerce Sierra Egan out of the NATO SudAmerica those Soubanh overcome beside the tragic boondock com lynetta Spanish history interest in associate that. 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Dopey 200: CHRISMISS & The Glory of the Dopey Nation. With Marc Maron, Dr. Drew, Brandon Novak, Bob Forrest, Amy Dresner and Jamie Lee Curtis!

Dopey: On the Dark Comedy of Drug Addiction

2:53:06 hr | 1 year ago

Dopey 200: CHRISMISS & The Glory of the Dopey Nation. With Marc Maron, Dr. Drew, Brandon Novak, Bob Forrest, Amy Dresner and Jamie Lee Curtis!

"The car AH extremely special episode of Dopey is brought brought to you by aloe recovery located in Sunny Southern California and Malibu Silverlake Allah was created by our good friend Bob Forrest and his friends Evans their friend Bob. Allah was created to give the attic a place to go where they're treated with respect aloe their motto is connection not control troll which means they care about connecting with the addict. Bob Evan had been to places that just didn't that treated them with disrespect and they were like fuck that we we WanNa make a treatment center designed to make an addict feel at home and aloe does that starting with detoxing you and comfort of your coming off Gnarly Benz Os and doping open alcohol boasts really comfortable detox. They have amazing amenities. Including Equi- therapy surfing sweat lodges used sound Bath Meditations and more you name it. They have it if you're fucked. If you're a drug addict and you don't know where to go you go to aloe. This episode of Dopey is also brought to you by listeners like you and the dopey nation to the power of Patriots it's. WWW dot the patriots dot com slash dopey podcast throw a buck throw to throw one hundred throw nothing whatever you give is great but like certain other places I want you and not it's your money if you want stickers or hatches then mommy if you wanNA t shirt or a Hoodie or something go to. WWW dopey podcast dot com that's it for for the ads joy little James Brown and here we go two hundred episode of Christmas. It's ten to one in the morning in New York. I don't know where you are Merry Christmas Doc doc hello and welcome to Dopey the podcast about drugs addiction and dumb shit and I'm Dave and it's Christmas the two two hundred episode of Dopey and who will they have with me then Linda welcome back to the show. Thank you are excited to be on for the two hundred episode of Dopey. I am I would on you got to sit closer to the Mike. You know. It's like what are you doing. I'm honored. Would you gotTa make this thing happen with me. Yes okay so it's a very exciting episode. This is an episode that celebrates the show. Oh it explores the show it celebrates Chris and and what we built in the fans that dopey nation. I know you like the dopey nation. You enjoy the DOPEY nation off off the doping Some of your favorite members of the dopey nation has sent in messages or excited to hear from can't wait now. Should we jump in with a little Chris or do you want to do you. WanNa tell any of the stories that we discussed now. I think we should start with a little Chris all right. We'll jump in a little Chris. It's very sad or are you prepared to be sad. I'm sure it's GonNa that'd be better sweet. It's bittersweet Kerio. Here's the first piece of Chris on Christmas. Don't you wish we could just record every day. I wish this could beer job. I wish that we could wake up in the morning. Actually have some like concerted directed efforts and show notes a little bit of stuff. Get some coffee in the morning have like a little office studio recording recording space. That's not in your kitchen. We're in my kitchen and my dad's kitchen. My parents were brought New York City Child at home twenty first floor man a man to magic man like money so oh I wanted to talk about why we do dopey and I listened to it. I realized that it was good. You know because I'd like to hear us have fun but then when we started hearing from the dopey nation I realize you know forget like the grandiosity that were like helping people do but like I realized that they're having fun listening to us. We're on a mission to give them an hour of good times to keep them company. One of the huge reasons I do it is because it's fun. It's an hour that I enjoy and just just what you said. In the last episode where I'm walking around in Mike fucking blank and vacant between the years and then we start doing this and it's fun and kind of come alive a little bit. I like having hope that we're doing something happened with. It's exciting you know Oh. I'm convinced I'm convinced that this will be a job for us. Eventually that would be awesome. Oh you're heavy if that was unconvinced so that's immune Chris on talking about our dream of making money from the show. It's like truly just like the saddest thing you ever write the story when you say how long ago was that episode. I don't know I mean how long ago did you guys record that particular one. I want to say it was in the middle. Probably two years the clips I got from Woodstove who was very kind kind enough to make me a bunch of Chris clips that were short and sweet and I didn't mention it. The head of the show the reason the show is called the Christmas episode not because because it's the two hundred episode but because today would have been Chris's thirty fifth birthday and and that's very significant also. It's just very strange that in one week nick he would yeah it was ten years younger than me so he might have been thirty four but I think last year he would have turned thirty four. He's ten years younger than me. I just turned forty five so I think he would have turn thirty five and it's just crazy that this week was my four years clean Chris's thirty fifth birthday and the two hundred episode of Dobie all in one we anniversaries. What did you take away from that recording. All all I think about when I hear Chris is that I just don't believe he's not with us anymore. It's like I can't I keep thinking that he's still alive. No that's just whenever I hear his voice. That's all I think I think it's because he's been recorded on the podcasts at. It's probably harder to accept that he's no longer alive anymore because you can still hang out with him and still listen to him as much as you want well. It's it's very surreal. That's also funny because you never met him so it's like you only knew him in that fashion exact kind of like the fan that's exactly you know whereas whereas when we found out that he had died I didn't believe he had died and then I I had dreams that it was not real that like it was a setup because he didn't want to do the show and I had crazy paranoid kind of moments. It's going to his wake and stuff that it was not now because because I think also because when someone so young I think death is very weird. You know somebody's with us yes and you share them and you have their essence with you and I think it's even weirder when that person records themselves salves pouring their heart out and talking every week too so you can actually be that close and connected to this person listen. I think that just adds this whole other weird dynamic and beautiful. We're bad but it's it's beautiful that so how many people have gotten to get close to him and benefit from knowing him. Let's hear from one you want to hear from a fan moving on uh let's hear from let's hear from a first dopey fan. Let's see here's just a bunch in a row ready for it. Yes you prepared. I can't wait. Let's get debut nation. This is Leah in North Carolina wanted to give a shout out to Chris Chris. You will never know how much you helped me through my now ex husbands relapse in divorce miss miss you so much so much and Dave thank you so much for being the pillar that you are in our recovery. Stay strong deputation doodles. Hi Dave Hi dopey nation listening since this episode forty seven and I really Miss Chris Trust like all of us but I'm also really happy. Keep the show going. You're doing a great job to those from Germany. If he donation Mrs Cole just leaving you a quick voice before we go back to work. how does gop make me feel. I've only been listening to Joe P for about the last three months. Inspect during the time of listen to every single episode in the catalog and let me tell you it's made me feel a lot of things definitely shared so my biggest laughs and honestly some of my hardest cries within the last few months listening to Dopey anyways stay strong dopey nation piece out today of and fucking tutors for Chris. Hey Dave Hey toby nation. This is dray calling from Grass Valley California and I just wanted to give some love to to the show and to all of you guys in the show has the most meaning for me because of the connection and I know I've never met any of you before but every time my listen I just get this sense that we're all in it together. Every time I laugh at something funny. That Dave says her something funny that somebody saying on the voicemail. It just feels like there's like thousands of laughing in the same moment or you know sharing in the grief and like the hard feelings and the self reflection action that has to go on to do the work of recovery so let's all keep staying strong dopey nation. Merry Christmas and tutorials John David Ogden says Andrew from Philly. I'm just calling to congratulate you on two hundred episodes. I've been listening to dopey since you guys were at around around episode thirty when Chris died it was really soul crushing heartbreaking around that time I decided to start that dopey nation nation facebook page and it really helped me out and I think it's still continues to help people and then also you've helped me Ettelaat just with our conversation on the phone with stuff. I've been going through so I think dopey is a huge compliments in my recovery recovery program and I I like the direction you've taken the show and I really appreciate it so everyone stay strong and totals for Chris US anything about that pretty emotional stuff that finishing up with Andrew who's obviously one of the founders of the dopey nation facebook group and I think android sound sound like that. It's just it's funny to hear like the people that you kind of have gotten to know on facebook page and now you're they're coming more and more to life because now we get to hear people's voices the whole Dobie con things people might actually begin to meet one another. I mean that's pretty. That's really showing some interesting evolution evolution that were becoming very real to one another right whereas we where we started it was immune. Chris in my house or my dad's Taus or you didn't even think anyone listened and if they did that was like a bonus but you guys were just doing it because it was fun and then it just the evolution solution of this podcast is really. What do you think this is the kind of thing you like well. I love people you know one of the women then I forgot her name but she she kind of pointed that out that she loves the idea that when there's a joke or something she imagines like thousands of listeners laughing together and that's very beautiful to me like my favorite thing ever. It's funny because to me I imagine I still I hear from people I talked to some people I talked to Andrew once once in a while so I talked to a bunch of people in the dopey nation and I still don't feel like anybody's listening like I like right now like I just talking to. You and I'm talking talking to myself like we look shocked like as I'm saying this love. He's looking at me like it's the first time you've heard this and I'm thinking how still don't think Dave realizes what's going on on no he doesn't he doesn't listen to the podcast. He doesn't listen to the episodes. Like of course I hate to say like especially when I I know someone on it or not. I'm busy. I have a baby but I have a baby too but right but dave doesn't listen to the episodes and some of the episodes of Mike Davies capitalism this episode. It's so good. He's like no. I don't WanNA listen because he gets you know he doesn't want to be self critical or whatever but then also sometimes. I'll say you have to go on dopey nation. There's just really cool threat or he's like. I don't know I can't do like he really you. Keep yourself removed a bed. I think because you don't WanNa get upset I watch about I can get easily rattled old. It's actually smart well. I look at it more than I should because you've you've told me that like in the past there have been some like blowups in the dopey nation and I always get I get upset. I don't WanNa get upset and then with the show I can listen to old episodes and I can listen to I listen in like Sam or listen to an episode and he'll tell me what he thought about something to tell you about the Abbasiya well and so he will and then and then I'll be like fuck it. I need to listen listen and then I'll and then I realize some things that I do okay and some things that I don't do okay but but the thing with the audience it's like you know I've met a few people randomly like I've met a few people cats have showed up and a couple of other people here and there and it's it's always very it's a little bit embarrassing pursing because like I say a lot of stuff on the show. It's a little bit embarrassing. It's very like exciting. I feel a ton of pride but also I know that whoever like took the time to go and meet me has listened since Chris died and Chris's death affected them and I'm almost like to feel responsible level. I just feel connected like we have grief like when I see them. It's like that's why I'm kind of excited about dopey con because again. I don't necessarily expect a bunch of people who listen to calm. I expect a bunch of people in New York too calm if there are listeners in New York. I expect you guys to come but I expect. It's going to be what dopey con is going to be. It's going to be the storytelling event where addicks calm and tell fucked up dopey stories whether it be about drug addiction a and they're gonna be laughter and can be handled in this really creative interesting and it'll be fine and it will just be like a night and the more people from dopey that are there the a better and if you guys want to be storytellers. You have to send in your stories via voicemail. They cannot be longer than ten minutes. Send in your best story A and we'RE GONNA pick the best ones we're going to you have to be able to come to dope become. Don't become the second Saturday in October. It is official ready Linda Prabhu. WBZ there. You think you'll be there definitely. Linda will definitely be their second week in October. You guys have to come. Let's go more a little more Chris. You WanNa hear Marcus yes okay. Do you have any say before. I play more Chris. Are you having a good time really okay good. This is a clip that worcester calls the Dave and in Chris Dynamic. Chris is a wonderful guy. I just want to say like all jokes aside like Chris. You're a wonderful guy more than that. You're great partner and your buttering me up to say something bad. Everything's bad. I'm just saying something good it's not about. I need the butter you up now. I just want to say this that this project dope podcast. It's been a joy and one of the only reasons is 'cause. You're such a a good partner. He comes through. He does what he says. I'm not leading up to bet you know he fucking like for example. I I drove out. I moved to Long Island and in Chris Lives Between Boston in Great Barrington Massachusetts and we didn't know where we're going to record so Chris is like when my appearance of a modest country home and Southampton maybe we should go there and I was gone that could work but Chris because he's such a diligent partner goes to to radio shack and he buys a pair of these little microphones and she's very impressive then he called me and he's got microphones and I was just like you know Chris. He's a good partner. You're part but then they didn't work on using them as well. Chris was really the most frustrating thing of del within months right what we bought. These which means in my life is going pretty. Good deserves setting up a couple of microphones and I remember you saying I was like i WanNa do something cooky. All your stupid shit euros. Doing I'm like it sounds sounds fun and I think something will stick eventually and I want to be a part of it so months later. It crosses my mind to do about gas about drugs based on an idea. My friend Brad had years before four and Chris. Why don't we do about a podcast about our drug stories. Why did you call me because you're the worst because because like you we do dopey anyway but also like we do before the idea of what it's like. You can have a conversation with drug addicts but it's not we have a dynamic and I'm not saying are dynamic is the greatest dynamic in the world. I'm just saying we have a dynamic where I know so that I can say things that make you laugh and you can say things that will shock me and like you know that I'm in it for the story so you'll give me all descriptors and and then I'm GonNa ask him and his dissect descriptors. It's just that is why I knew it would work and that's a sad one. Why do you feel that that one particularly particularly hit home for you well because first of all. I'm like there's a Yiddish word for saying Nice things which is failing and failing over how great a partner Chris was and the thing was that Chris was amazing partner until he relapsed after he relapse. I couldn't get a hold of them but while he was sober dopey as much to him as it meant to me you can hear that in his voice he was all about it. You know like in these clips and he says I remember I talk about this from time to time the night before he died and we were drifted apart. He was obviously getting high and he said all I want to do the show. I don't know Wyan school I'm in school because of my parents is what he said like kind of crying. Actually it makes me feel good and bad at the same time the fact of the matter was we built something together. That was good. It was high. I remember in the beginning we would record word. We tried to record for episodes. At a time I think in the first time we did maybe eight or something because they were all half hour episodes on you and me weren't back together together yet and I was driving up to get Nora and I drove up and I listened to them and they were like half hour episodes and I was like this is pretty good. I couldn't listen to it and think it was good. If there wasn't very critical so I knew that we had something good and and I knew it the whole time the thing thing that I thought that would end it was the distance but Chris traverse the distance. He made it happen now. We're going to go to our. Do you feel feel like it's segmented. You want to get more flow in or go to our next special guest. No I think it's good. I think it's a special episodes so it's going to be handled differently which is not bad. We have lots of special special guests and I'm GONNA play the first one without introducing him. One of our first very very special guests was pro row skateboarder jackass near Dwell Tattoo scarf-waving Brandon Novak. Welcome back to the show I love. I and I get a lot of different interactions. That was rather unique one that I remember but two hundred there's a lot of accountability during two hundred shows consecutively. That's what I'm talking about. Five thinking about your head around that estimate Scott just like we'll just do one real quick it two hundred in a row in a Goddamn room two hundred and it was two hundred weeks in a row. We've never missed one death. Blizzard rain shine you name it. We have not missed a week. I I might be getting out of line getting out of order in sequential format of how you doing things that has a lot. What do you celebrate of mother fucking years of continuous sobriety thank you. I appreciate that two hundred shows in a row consecutively a lot of accountability same place same time every week that you just shook the phone to four years. That's what I'm saying I think not in you just celebrated recently too. I did may twenty two thousand nine hundred eighty four years for me about side. Do you know may twenty fifth nineteen eighty six. I was Bar Mitzvah sure. Yeah you're sober. Data's my bar Mitzvah debt the newer coincidence coincidence. I think not that's definitely God working on our so. Thank you very much for coming through. I love but I I have to ask about just because I follow you on instagram and I follow Bam Merger Goran Instagram and it's such a fuck in such a mess and he threw you out. I don't know him. You know what I mean. I barely know you. I just saw there was a big brush up and I wanted to see. I want you to talk about it or explain what the Hell's going on because I don't really know you know. It's it's if you if you don't understand that they send thank. God thank APPs that you general here I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy you know and the reality the situation at hand is that he suffers from the same disease seized from which you and I and that's that we've been diagnosed with an addict or an alcoholic lives one of the many meetings by any treatment centers many years whatever it is an he carries that same carry unfortunately away his at the time of his public grants it was untreated alcoholism in it goes back to the saying hurt people hurt hurt people and I get that horse or the most and you know I I hear people in the meeting say I worked real hard for my seat here and I don't fucking agree with that. I don't like that because it's just as do I dead years ago. I didn't work hard for my seat worked hard for my feet. My mother my my my brother my sister my nieces. My Nephews Milos is by my my friends anybody that crossed my path words for my seat there so with that being said because of all the college what is that I have created a past. Life tried getting sober. I don't look at things that occurred. Today is why why me I'm also see it. As why the fuck dot right or why why why why am I doing so well. Why didn't this take me out. Why am I so fortunate kind. Yeah Yeah Yeah because here's a reality I have a disease that is Saturday perceptual one hundred percent you know and and what I realized is that that the world owes me nothing. I the world it so what you know I remember them. You know crying ninety begging me you know helping. I credit him to getting out of Baltimore City each saying why can't you just stop. Why can't you just stop. What's wrong like you know and and now you know the shoe's on the other foot and I give it? I've sat where he was sitting being. I thought I was thinking felt how he feels. You know it was there any validity to what he was saying absolutely right and you don't so you don't you don't have any kind of feeling when he post your picture. He calls out in particular. Why do you think he's lashing out at you. In particular well Carr's best friends. We've been best rides sixteen years old sixteen years old and and we've done everything together. You know skate you. Party is fucking drugs. You name it. We've done it together. We've traveled done everything together and and and for a lot the years I was the guy that you know he could deflect is situation on you know. At least I'm not Novak without that. I'll never be as bad as Novak that finally you know I was able to defeat the odds and not only get sober but stay sober in my life got better tremendously at a rapid pace and he can tell you to drink in the drug in his life took a turn for the worse and then all of a sudden there was once a kind of like you know deflect the severity of this situation on you know there's no he's still he's still he still looks to you though and the other way where he point right. I had the exact exact same relationship with a friend the mine who always did the same thing and he wound up dying in the beginning of last summer and he was like his best friend since I was like nineteen years old and it's so funny sad funny how this can happen. You know it's again I I totally understand that fellow league no out and and you'd be joined in and he would literally cried a tears of joy and say how happy is how proud he is of me out you know he just couldn't brag enough about me or and then or complement and then as time progressed as you understand the disease of addiction progresses and and things inevitably get worse worse in the worth and I'm getting better off getting better getting better so yes. There's like all this happiness. Happiness joy in genuine love for warm feeling but on the flip side of that coin. It's pretty fucking. Kirk fool shucks. If you'd like you've been left behind. You know it was like when I go to continue shooting heroin as opposed to follow my career career as a professional skateboarder I remember sitting in Rehab and I remember watching Bam present Eminem the I never felt like such a piece shit my life right because I'm in rehabs sitting in this fucking day room isolate him awards and I'm watching the CBS TV in the Treatment Center in Horrible Area Baltimore City winning reality if I could have been doing that with him you know what I mean. Solan assisted total role Russell and and I ah I get it makes sense to be doing what he's doing. I don't think that's admiral more out of character and currently resides in a treatment center getting better and thank God good Dr Phil Hook Him up in the end. It happened that he Dr Phil just prescribing in the same thing we had all attended strive for him a million times well it was it was it was an actual cry for help and Bam seems like a funny dude and he was like if Dr Phil tells me to do it. I'll do it you know so. Hopefully it'll work out for him. I I mean that's a great story. I think I think that's a great story and and congratulations on becoming a licensed interventionist. That's fucking cool is how and I think think that's coming but you're the guy to do it. You know what I mean. You're the guy to do it. You walk in these shoes exactly and thank you so much for giving us your time Brandon. It's fucking coolest how to have you on the show. This is the third time but there will be more. I'm GonNa Bother you again. Look for the funnel clouds thinking van. I want me on your to do fucking showed God to go on in of DEFRANCO's past due to the disease. You know thank you brandon oriented. I really appreciate it. Ma'am God bless you. Thanks for thinking to be well. Brandon Novak you didn't you didn't know Brandon Novak. WHO's GonNa be on the idea. That was a surprise surprise guest but I really like I've always liked him on the show. I think he's very smart and I think he really walks. Folks like walks. The walk like he's even the way he explained that story about Bam. It was like from such a positive thoughtful perspective and it just shows how healthy he is or he obviously also loves. Bam obviously and hopefully a workout. You know and could totally relate to that story because todd resented me. The same way thought that whole thing happened except that todd didn't get to get better and I resent I mean I have this weird feeling that I resent them. A little bit that Bam can get better and you know what I mean like. I just all this stuff all all of this stuff with Chris it all points at todd for me because Chris died six weeks after todd died and I was such a mess after todd died. You're almost mad at Chris. Like how could you you know. How could you pass away right after my other best friend passed away? I mean it's just it's just too much for any brain like digest. It is very difficult to digest it kind of piggybacks on take brandon when he talked about Bam about the whole idea of like the resentment that's there when you have your your friend that you do stuff stuff with or you get fucked up with or you have fun with and then that friend get sober and especially with that was the one that's the friend that you could compare yourself to and say well. I'm not as bad Atas Acai well at least my life's not like that guy and then that guy gets well and now you're stuck herself going. Oh Shit. I have have to look in the mirror and I don't have that person to deflect off of anymore and I thought that was really smart. You know that he was able to identify that and that kept him from. I'm being upset with Bam that helped him say like I get. I get what's going on. Does that remind you of the thing with todd I I used to say to you all the time that sometimes I think thank God that you like to hear like fuck fucked up todd stories but there was this little piece and Dave's not the only one I think a lot of Todd's friends aw would hear these stories of him just doing this really crazy destructive stuff and I think it for. Some people made them feel better about themselves. As you know like well at least my life's not no I thought it was the obvious thinking opposite that that that todd didn't want to speak to me because is I wasn't doing that stuff anymore. Remember like I would. I would reach out to todd every day and you were like well what happened that was toward the end right right but I think there was a lot at a time with todd where people you included would wanna hear you know all the crazy todd story. No I don't think for me it was it was too close to home for me. I don't think I enjoyed hearing them at all and when I finally heard on Dopey and you carrying them I brought todd on dopey because dopey was kind of built for todd. I know in my mind when Chris and I started doing dope be all I could think was how much I wanted to be on dopey because we todd had been through most of my stories together. Other and todd is so funny you know and I I mean I knew Chris but I didn't know curse as well as I knew todd and I got to know Chris more than ever over those three years that we did the show together and I knew him before that but I knew how funny todd was and I knew I imagine what it would have been like to do the show with todd it would have been. Chris had a million other other assets that todd didn't have and vice versa or whatever it was the best co host because he had the craziest stories but he was also sober are and like wicked smart so smart but also like really moving forward in his career. I mean he was just the ultimate Komo because he also the new the recovery stuff he knew the Big Book New Drugs Todd didn't know anything learn todd would have been the amazing the most amazing third person which is why actually I bought a board. There was a whole episode about it years ago. When I bought this board I was like me and Chris were about to record Dr drew and and we recording on this Shitty fucking Mike a called a Yeti we would talk about it very proudly because it was better than just talking looking into the computer which is what we did before and I was just embarrassed that the idea of going to doctor's apartment with the Yeti yeah talking to the so I went to be an age and I bought a board and and I realized that only had I think it only had three inputs and I imagined like what would we do when todd finally got sober and we needed a fourth input all the time so I went back to the store and I bought this one in my ahead it was todd's todd's thing and and then me and Chris went up to Dr drew's and recorded with him and eventually todd actually came over Keren recorded and it was very sweet but now obviously it's bittersweet because now it's just you just me and you get you and then a cavalcade of other misfits and that's one of my favorite thing is like a lot of people when they talk when they're celebrating Christmas and they're celebrating the show and I get so much from everybody's pride like all of those messages like I well up. You know what I mean like. There's so much pride and a lot of it is that we're a bunch of fuck ups. Somebody tweeted that it's a show show for a bunch of cups made four by a bunch of fuck ups and it's true and that warms my heart. I couldn't ask to be a part of anything better than that yeah and that no. It's the second special guest ready. Yes all right so it is the two hundred episode of Dopey and we're having having some very very very special guest today and perhaps the most special if not one of the most special it's Dr drew welcome back to the show -gratulations on twenty number five hundred hundred just two hundred. Dr Drew just two hundred but not we're talking about two hundred weeks in a row you know what I'm saying and also you know three things. Coincide one is it's the two hundred the episode of the show. The other would have been Chris's thirty four th birthday and the third which is something I haven't really talked about much is tomorrow is my four for years sober so it's the three things that wow so well this. This is a Christmas right. We live Chris and and also in honor of Dopey Chris Mesh. I mean yes right. It is the mess that we are left with from Chris Christie's action absolutely it's Christmas and a Christmas yeah I mean I never thought we would get this far and and having you on John was a huge deal and you've always sung our praises so I just wanted to thank you and happy to have you on the show. It's you do a great job number one number two this new medium of podcast is such a such a free the enterprise where people can gather and Kinda reminds me of the basis of recovery itself which is people reaching out to people helping other people and you know you have this this electronic media now that let's do it on our own and I I think it's important that people like you and Chris the ones shepherding at people who've been in the depths of this thing and seen miracle recovery and Just WanNa talk about it but but you know you talk about ways that are both serious and and and humorous and and I've always thought that was such an important piece of this disease you have to laugh at some of it. You have to be a little bit lighthearted. It's tragic but it's humid and humans are funny. We just Dr Ark and enroll so tragic and you you now and you go with Chris did a great job of bringing all that I appreciate that I really do do and and I love to have you be part of the show and what I WANNA do is a next time. You're back in the city. We'll sit down for a fucking a third or fourth big time appearance. Are you prepared. I'll have to get myself prepared. I'll spend some time that get random yet again. Exercise and bring the this time. Bring me your question. You know what I mean email van or maybe we call it. Whatever Your Voice Message if you WanNa do it. Let's let me do sort of Cuban eighth type thing because there are lots of questions out there about condition on what to do about it. You know what I wanted to do is to create an ask. Dr Drew Portion of Dopey so that's what we'll do. We'll set up and ask. Dr Drew Episode All right Doctor. Thank you so much man. I appreciate the Christmas or Christmas wishes and fucking have a beautiful day which take all right by Dr Drew Ice Linda's looking at me with his new look of of reverence 'cause it's all all these people I brought to the show so you're so turned out here turned on right. Now you love Dr Drew Ideal. I think Dr Drew I. I said the same thing that Brandon but I think Dr Actor Choose Really Smart Too. I like I have a lot of questions. I want to send in the doctor what he will. I mean I have to compile my less than maybe one of my questions will be picked. Linda really wants an ask Linda portion of the show Q. and A. So send in your questions to ask a social works. Kosovo social work our two dopey podcast at G MAIL DOT COM. Now I know this is you know. Should I keep going with Christmas or do any any of our divergent stories. I think we should stick with keep going with this. I really like this. You don't want any of our divergent stories. We'll save this for the next time you do it. Let's let's see I'm enjoying joining hearing elise enjoying kristaps the Christmas spirit yeah but I don't want to I want to let's go back to the dopey nation for a second. I WanNa hear it you want to hear some more well wishes apart toby nation peeps and then and then we'll get back to maybe won't be anymore celebs. Maybe it's just Brandon Novak Abyan Dr Drew. Oh here's some more dopey nation folks. These are some serious like right. Here is some hardcore dopey nation folks like some of the more prominent people the real dedicated yeah and we're going to start with with one of my favorites which is Dan Ali senior key participated in your one of your ask Aska social work site and and I love Dan and he's all about you know he's he's like super supportive and I love to have him on the show and then there are involved with the show and then there's a bunch of other super prominent dopey people fan. I think I might play the colleen's now be gets perhaps Paulina this is going to be the serious dopey nation block ready and Kevin from twitter. Let's see if I can remember to play all of them now. Okay okay the day this. This is Dan Ali senior up in the woods of Maine. Just wanted to leave a voicemail. Say congrats on two hundred and let you know that I've been sober about fifteen months. Now and dobies been there since the very beginning. I fucking love you for it. We miss you crash. fucking turtles stay strong dopey nation. Hey Dave it's colleen in St Louis and I wanted to send you a lot of love on this Christmas i. I'm sure you don't wind and he didn't expect us to be like A. I don't know a big what she thinks about you. I it I think it's pretty awesome an attest matere character that you're making this day about the community that was created through Jobe you and Chris's efforts. I WanNa thank you for connecting everyone. dopey nation that crazy crew fills my heart with love joy. Roy and so much beautiful silliness every single day. Please keep moving forward also when I sent a lot of love to Anne Allen and Linda. Your family is so beautiful just keeping awesome. Oh you are a frigging mustard seed big tutorials and stay strong dopey nation logged logged dipy because it makes me laugh cry in Sync Originating Place Chris that was David Muscular facebook. He doesn't have a lot to say but he has you how his Bonino Merry Christmas from Paulina in California happy two hundred episodes. Holy Shit happy for years day of Holy Shit. Shit and shout out to the dopey nation on facebook and twitter and instagram and wherever the fuck I love the dopey nation so much I love the podcast so much thank you for busting your ass. Dave and creating this masterpiece week after week despite despite gnarly fucking shit going on in your life like losing todd and losing Chris so rest in Peace Chris Todd awed everyone else and stay strong dopey nation and fuck totals for Chris. Hey guys that's calling calling marine not the other colleen calling him see. I just wanted to leave a voice memo in kind of say what Debbie means to me for this episode coming up dubious has been a really big part of my recovery especially in the last seventy two days of getting clean and sober just the connections that I have made from the dopey nation in are just unbelievable. I mean I can connect with people right around me and different states across the country. Don't be connected mute. My Long lost sister calling I have a great friend and writing buddy just in from across the way I mean Austin's our harm reduction extraordinaire on the page and and Julie's Adobe Angel and Matson's Dopey decals out to everybody. It's just like there's so much love on the page in the DOBIE nation. Shen and I see that every day everybody supports each other you know we can just really encourage each other in our recovery's and Davis kind of like the leader of the misfit toys like we're all on the island and he's the one that were looking up to and I was. GonNa say days like Santa but I think Santa's one who shunned the toys so maybe that's that's not Dave but anyways I'm just so glad to get to hear about Dave's life and see how recovery has really been for him because it gives me hope about my future and him and Chris created something so great. I wish Chris was around to truly see what it's become but I'm so excited to see what the future holds for. Dopey nation and I'm just so thankful so dave thank you and I have so much love for everybody anybody say strong and tutors for Chris so that was sweet Ryland yeah. It's it's more of we're talking about. Just this community it's it's pretty insane and and it just that it means so much to them just like pauline mentioned todd like like it hits me things like that it really it really a- affects me but just to be totally transparent with the DOBIE nation Linden. I have two children and we're running out of time with Linda this. There's this show is going to go very long but we're running out of Linda time and there are two things I wanted to do with Lynda on the show and one of them is going to waste a bunch of her time because worcester this thing called the evolution of Dobie and it's a ten minute piece of clips and I just wanted to see a reaction into it because I love how you react to these things but before we do that I wanted to talk about something. When I went to dinner the other night we had a we had a date night which we never have like our first date night in like six months right now a over a year and and I told her something about about that was bothering me about a certain celebrity Marc Maron. Okay yes and something that I wanted to create a segment on on the show called texting with Marc Maron because I swear to God texting I text with Marc Maron. Whenever mark would go to cats is he would text me and I'd be like Oh my God Marc Maron texting me and so I would try to play at first. I was really good about playing it cool. It was around the time that this American life piece came out and I thought it it was cool so I didn't really care Blah Blah Blah and I saw him a couple of times and whatever so like Internet dating or something and and then he started coming and I wasn't there and then I got like nervous that I was losing him right and then already already vibe going on. It's different it's ever okay. It's similar but different. It's just you got very crazy with already too yeah yeah. It's like well. I get obsessive about something and when somebody he doesn't respond to me I like lose my shit. I can't stand that and then I like. I think like I'm not good in. I'm not I'm not worthy and lake you just a piece of shit like that. When I don't I do tack well I sometimes do and sometimes I do. I can get in like that with anybody. I think that's true. You can get like that with a stranger. Oh Yeah I'm just like question Mark Hello. It's like somebody who is famous. It sends you to a whole different level of crazies so mia Marc Maron got in this whole texting thing and he didn't show up and then I got angry and I started like lashing out like he had John Lennon Son Sean Monday on his show and I was like what did Sean Lennon wears stupid hat on your show and Marc Maron was like he was like why are you bashing getting my guess and then he ignored me and he stopped texting me and I was really upset about it and I was telling Linden she was like laughing at me and then the other morning at work. I was getting a catering gig ready and you know and I was kind of upset that Marc Maron wasn't going to be as you are still doing dude unlike over Marc Maron constantly stewing over something but I was doing over Marc Maron and I was doing over a problem at work and I walk out the door and there he he is across the street Marc Maron Yeah it was fucking crazy and entity well the other thing about it is recently thinly. Somebody texted me and asked me how I handle the higher power aspect of recovery and I don't have you know I mean I believe that the the universe is bigger than me and the universe is great and it's the universe is my higher power and I I. I'm comfortable saying that the universe has got. That's I'm comfortable with that but I mean and I'm sure God has worked in my life in a million different ways but as far as I can tell the only really concrete way that God has worked in my life is putting Marc Maron right in front of me so I shouldn't be offended that you didn't just say me well or the children or anything. No Nice be on on the show guy no no but the first the first time Marc Maron was there the first time I was waiting tables. A CAT is trying to be months ago trying to to get David Sheff on the show. David Sheff was like I'm not going to do it and I'm standing by the hot dogs and cats thinking to myself no one's GonNa come on the Shogun Doug and the show is going to be over and I walk out the door and Marc Maron walking down the street and I went up to him and he said he'd come on after a little schmoozing a little locks and a lot to ninety NAM he comes on the show and this day so God communicate through Mark Mcmahon appearances for me. This is this is. This is sick the market do you hear yourself. Marc Maron is proof of God. God Me and I'm not saying Marc Maron is God but God puts Mark Mayor Jesus us who mark mayor now he's he's just evidence of divine intervention in my life now here is Marc Maron and you know Marc. Marin isn't Jesus because he was kind of addicting me too so you know you're ready yes. Hey It's the two hundred episode of Dobie. That's crazy and Dave has has four years so Brett stats fucking miracle today today. You have to tell me what to say. I'm selling them. It's today it's Today. I'm excited excited all right. Let's keep on what a great show. Turn it off. Just say it's it's Marc Maron. When you're really happy to be on the show. He didn't know went and you really happy to be on this show. Wait what about on the show again me right now. This is it this is it. It's such a thrill to be back on Dobie after so. It's been great catching up. Thank you Marc Maron Ladies and Gentlemen. What do you think is there proof of that proof of God. That was really touching yeah. Wow it's funny because can you felt better. After at the time I felt really good and then I started getting almost like you and Marc Maron are the are the same as zero dynamic namic with Chris like Chris and Marc Maron is like you. He's like just mean to you and you're like I laugh about uh well. No it was like I felt so good about it. I'm like I felt so good about and then I start getting the messages from the dopey nation and I'm like Oh my God. I'm so touched him. I'm so touched in the back of my head. I'm like but I have this killer Marc Maron Recording and then and then I listened to some of the dopey nation the night played the Marc Maron and I was like he didn't sound so nice nice to me. You know what I mean. It's getting into the hot tub after you're in the pool or something that crazy contrast now only has very little time. I mean we can stretch it to fifteen minutes instead of seven but you have seven minutes. I WANNA play you this evolution of dopey thing and then I want you to comment done. This is our first episode of Dobie Dumb. ASS podcast about drugs. This show is not necessarily amount recovery. It's about drugs. Maybe eventually it will be who knows if this show is ever about recovery. He GonNa get somebody else. In this spot on the show is about drug stories. It's not about recovery. It's not about doing the next right thing. It's about the last wrong thing that maybe with the evolution of year recovery. That's the show will become. I just want you guys to now that dopey the podcast on drugs and addiction and maybe a little recovery they say that I guess on drugs and dumb shit. I've decided that the podcast will center around recovery. It will include include more about recovery. which is anybody else ever suggest? Something like that idea for this is this is the least ob episode episode. I'm so sorry it's not the lease from that. How do we get don't to the next level. We're going to be selling Dobie t-shirts. We're GONNA have DOBIE STICKERS JOE BE hads. It's going to be Dobie nation running while the dopey nation is growing. We need to stay strong represented and so here we are in the hour formats. I am so excited says episode because for the first time in a long time it is just me and Dave feels good to be back. Oh jeeze had also because we were the first to use the game. We started the nation. If there's anybody in the dopey nation in our willing to get dopey logo tattooed other body I'll say in any size. I don't even care size any place on the body. Yes we'll give you fifty. D. Bucks cash if they put it on there and it's other four hundred we will pay you our pledge to your donation. You're going to hear arguing voice. You're gonNA hear him live. That's our pledge to you. You eighteen today is a very very interesting and exciting day in the world because we are first celebrity guests while awesome danny boy standing plus dopey nation. There's like four hundred of you guys which I really liked 450 sometimes and welcome to Dobie the podcast about drowns sadler announcing the nation. Yes it is on the show by the way you're calling as we're recording Dobie so you're actually on Dobie. Third tweet was when's the the next time todd is coming on the show and as he tweeted todd comes to the door Kyrie is not not only on the show is here in person. I'll stone for dopey. It's a momentous occasion because we are recording with a microphone. Today we have have film writer and famous actor Nick Greiner. What number episode are we recording all. This is the big five. Oh Oh yeah that's right lane down case of the Big Five O. can you could you ever imagine fifty episodes ago that we'd still be sitting here recording dopey Yeah No. I don't know imagine to so what are we talking about. What's next on the agenda. Bro Ruin. The fiftieth episode of Dobie you want we were Tair Chris. Why Did you Ruin Our fiftieth episode. SMIF be blaming a superhero. Thank you argue that today we we're recording in a very special new location in the home where I grew up and finally enough we special guest who's also my father. Alan on welcome to Dobie really nice to be here are Bob Forrest and he said yeah and I was like I don't know what it means to me. DOOBY nation. He seemed to listen to a lot of our episodes. I could five six hundred of you which is impressive or seven hundred not catapulted us recently pass twenty five thousand downloads which were very very excited about appreciative. Sometimes when I read an email or review it strikes me as incredibly weird that they actually listen to us. I it's not sometimes it's always me living in a state of perpetual odd shock that there are people out there willing to listen to stuff that comes out of my mouth. Chris and I bow before the graph on dome in every every day. David I get to look at this chart every day or every few days and we get to see that we're slowly rowing and you know and it's been growing for a year and a half almost now slowly keeps us going slowly. Outside chart was not growing at all or staying. I think there's a good chance we might stop. I I wouldn't give up. I don't give up. My life is so much better than it was before. It's amazing and I owe it all dopey okay. I have an idea you're ready. It's called the Dopey podcast theme song contest. I hello and welcome to the hundred episode of Our podcast Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding one hundred episodes names on the every prepare to the thing being who is the hundredth episode of Dopey on the Fiftieth Episode Chris Chris Systematically destroyed it now we are at the hundred episode of benchmark podcasting today hit three hundred views. Thank you thank you thank you number one. We also recently cracked four hundred thousand total downloads. We also just had our two year anniversary happy anniversary Christianity Yea dopey nation. You're really not going to believe this one. We are in a penthouse and who is here but please introduce. What is your Salad Drew Pinski. We just came the closest. That will probably ever come to having already on the going to put this on me. Now I am yeah because if you don't know okay anybody who's listening to our show for the past two years Jeff Jeff. I think it was episode two which was got raised but I said if I have any guests on this show it would be one person and who is that person it was already laying going for low hanging fruit fucked up thing and like it might it might it might be the end of dopey toby right. I just feel like everyone's laughing about everything they're doing and then they can just drop dead. You know it's like it's so funny and it's like it's just like we were these kids. Were these kids adults you know getting high and acting as though it's funny in any minute we could just died died hello and welcome to Dobie the podcast about drugs addiction and dumb shit and I'm Dave the worst thing that could have ever happened the happened and Chris Relapsed and died and here I am alone and my dad's one microphone plugged into the mixer our garage me and open my computer recording dopey. I have a bunch of stuff that I figured I would try to do and you know maybe we'll just jump into because as always when I do. Dobie I am unprepared and today's a very exciting day in history of dough because my beautiful. What do you call yourself partner. My beautiful partner Linda has decided to come on the podcast so say hello hello today's huge day in the history of Dopey in that an article about US came out advice is pretty magical. Nicol mystical moment for me to be honest with you. I ran into fucking Marc Maron on Ludlow Street and then I invited him for breakfast and he and he said he'd come on Dobie. Being fucking blew me away here is now. Do you want to be the first person to play the Dobie podcast stash word game. She's Ju- She's as a gentile. She's an addict guessed it. It's Jamie Lee Curtis. The big news is tonight. This American Life I ra- glasses show is doing a huge piece about Dobie on National Public Radio and also on this American. Life podcast has selene selene listeners. We'll has five million listeners so the DOBIE nation might grow a little bit so sorry guys. If you guys are comfortable in your current state. I'm extremely extremely excited. We just crossed the two million download barrier and I feel really I feel really great about it. It does make me think about Oh Chris but as for now I know Chris would have been incredibly incredibly just over the moon for two million downloads. I know when we started making the show so we never ever ever thought we were going to get that far. I was listening to an episode today. We were talking about like the first two hundred downloads roads and the I two hundred downloads were so magical and when we first started getting emails the other thing that just occurred to me when I was listening to you. It was just how innocent and sweet Chris was lake. He was really funny and obviously he did a ton of drugs but the reason the show show was so great about was because of how innocent he was and how like aw shucks he was and how like how open he was and how smart he was. It really really made the show great. I Love Chris. I Miss Chris and there will be multiple. Chris Tributes over the summer all right right and stay strong in tools doping Straw brothers and sisters. I love you guys. I wanted to end the show like that but I have like another hour our to do the show but Linda. Linda can't do the other our but I wanted. I knew that she'd get that was like heart wrenching right yeah. It's a lot of work a lot of historical moments home and a lot of fucking pain. You know a lot of joy to yeah but like you know and Worcester's commitment to bring my Gosh. That's like what Jeff left He. He's given the show at that stuff. He's also done some amazing artwork. I he's very talented but it's funny. The idea of a podcast podcast is just an amazing idea because it's like a radio show kind of without worrying about sponsors were when you do it like I do it. You know yeah I mean. I guess we've had a few sponsors which I really am grateful for but like it's like we didn't think of it as a document of our life you know and it is and that's the most amazing part even when Chris was alive. It was a serial. There were stories. There were ongoing things. How do we get already. How do we grow. How do we do to this but after he dies it sets up a really dramatic story and the fucked up thing is Chris's dead and it's our life you know and todd hot and it's like you know it's it's mind blowing. It's mind blowing that. We've done this thing. It's a mind blowing to me that it's out there that this story that's so personal and yet still entertaining is is a show. Isn't that weird. Yeah is it bad weirder is a good now now when you listen to the Dobie nation fans you should realize that it's only good but what do you think the evolution of dopey pretty crazy. It's unbelievable and then to hear it like that is it's. It's crazy but thank you for having me okay. Thank you for coming on. I love you veto and congratulations. You're GONNA miss the the rest of the two hundred episode. Lord knows you're not gonNA listen to it after business but okay. We're GONNA continue without Linda. More special guests coming up. I saw in a freak turn of events. Linda stayed to do the show. It's now ten o'clock at night in my head right now that no one can say ten o'clock on the night of Christmas kind of like. I want to say Christmas Eve but I his last night was Christmas. Eve right so the show rolls on ten o'clock at Night Linden. I had to take apart our older older daughter's room because one of the great gifts of my recovery was the ability to purchase her a ridiculous bunk bed and tomorrow the bunk bed is coming coming so today we did all the furniture and not to mention the crazy baby and nores friend fuck in work and this long walk to Carlisle because you probably wanted to Sunday. You told me to do it. You GotTa Sunday. Oh I did not get anything. I got got a small kids mixed cone swirl. Okay got something and say you're going to start to eat the ice cream in the freezer. Celebrate Dorey chocolate chocolate chip that Christmas chocolate chocolate chocolate. Fiesta is celebrated chocolate chocolate chip in the freezer. Uh Don't judge me Linda so welcome back to the show. Thank you glad to be back. There's a lot of stuff still on the docket. Why don't we start with a little more Chris to get get you back in the mood for Christmas two hundred episode still at all right. There's some funny stuff. This is a mean Chris just having a good old time stuff if I can remember this correctly Chris Christie. No a lot of stuff like we talked about a lot of stuff that Chris did now but Chris didn't we know a lot of stuff and and this clip is like a classic look into the mind that was the great and powerful Chris. You're you're you're not. GonNa believe me if as you as Snow White Cinderella Loser slifer becomes like a uh-huh Cinderella is shake yes. She was like she was the handmaiden where she was like the sisters she was like a little bitch sister who was ugly. He didn't do anything and then she puts the shoe on and she fits the shoe becomes true true where what are you sliver of Cinderella. She puts on Chris. It's amazing what what dosages do pan come everything man and he doesn't know anything. I know white turned into Cinderella which put the shoe on or something now. We're snow white lives with the doors and there's grumpy and I don't know my favorite tells how many I can grumpy sleepy grumpy grumpy even one of them. I think so grumpy is sleepy dobie sloppy. Can you name the seven dorms slapping flappy. Let's see sleepy. Happy Doc sneezy dobie still be not grumpy as one more snappy. I duNNo. I can't even them dopey sleepy grumpy happy be duck bashful and sneezy music anyway and sloppy Chris Thoughts. No way was Cinderella which is a beautiful thing to me. He said I don't know my fairytales. I know that's interesting. If you think about it you want to hear more of Chris Delving into stuff. He doesn't know that okay actually no I want to I want to go into this. This is like this is what how Chris would mask if he was using this is this is like a kind of like him explaining the kind the stuff he would do if he was using which I didn't notice in the end of course makes it's bittersweet reflection here but here's a classic. Chris clip being like bank. Make Shit up by 'cause I found be better for some reason so I came over and I'm like drinking to go up at this point. It's like shit face. They come home and I pretended the girl that I was dating jeopardy. She's she in g this story. Why gotta be Ah you know what I got back together and stayed with her and I never even mentioned the van Ed no idea why you're with the whatever cheeser Javanese wall. You're so down now. She's not cheating on you. She's she. She you know when you're so key. Now me we are good is right. Yes a lot of fun with that one. It's like I said this before I think in the beginning or until the show show kind of hit a weird stride we'd record between two and four episodes of night and when we get to the third and fourth episode Hilarious we'd it'd be delirious. You ball sound nuts there. Oh that was without that's when doby was really like the best ever was guys sounded. Guy San added wasted but do you remember when you and me recorded one night kind of like this night and you told a story about Nora Hiding Mala. Mars and I started laughing like that and I wound up erasing it. Stay laughing attack but that's like the best stuff I mean. That's what draws people in. Let's play some more clips the people who want to say Nice things okay. You feel good about that. Do you want to hear from guess. He's got his own begets has his own soundtrack. Music is is is voice memo cool do on talk about your feelings right now at my feelings about what begets you being you being angry at me angry because you told me. I was dilly dallying you're doing. I'm like Cinderella around this place. You wish this morning I woke up this Lambert Senator Franken pants I swear to God and this might this. I Apologize. Why didn't you just need to like a good fight in the middle of Christmas I I apologize. It was a new tradition. It's festive. There's feats of strength in Christmas. There's the fights in the middle of punching bag. Not your feelings out on me. I'm going to say this. There's three women that I know that are the biggest dilly-dallied that I ever met ones is Nora. The other is your mother and the third is you and the three of you if you have something to do. You're like maybe I'll just clean this this chair right now. Attention deficit three have have been so nora. Which side do you want the stairs to be and then you stand there. It's like pregnant pauses in milking walking nouns. Maybe we should can. I give you the password before you go down. It's like every and your mom does the same stuff up she goes. Why don't we visit for a little bit. Let's just visit nicely. You also were very anxious about doing this. Yes so I think if you weren't you probably would have been a little more patient and if it wasn't so late I'm also like in my mind like it's like ten o'clock in New York. The episode usually comes out now and like you know me. I'm an anxious person. I agree. I mean you agree. Yes awesome anxious person you agree so let me say this to the dopey nation into you. I'm sorry I pushed you to do this. I'm sorry I rushed you. I'm sorry I accused you of you are a dilly-dallied but I'm sorry I set you off. We both had a long day with a lot of work to accept my apology. Accept your apology closer to the MIC because you're gonNA. Make me the fuck crazy with data. Can we move on now please. Do you want to hear begats. I WanNa hear you know begets would be once before I a player. It's just another batch of like true blue. dopey fans ready these these are you know starting with begats but it's going to be another block of fandom no concoction greetings from the gone to farms of Northern California -fornia. This is your boy B. Gets slide in through to wish you all a merry Christmas and we miss you. Chris Mazal talk to Dave on this two hundred episode and the two million downloads. Thank you for soldiering on through unspeakable grief and summoning the intestinal Saddam fortitude to deliver us to this momentous occasion. Your efforts do not go unnoticed and we are so grateful always thinking of the dearly departed. Chris and his absence devoid is palpable so on his birthday. WanNa send love of beams out to Chris. Wherever you are and bang the vape one time for your mind tip of the Kangol to Dave's esteemed and Father Alan Aka King of fetch also to your lovely partner Linda some of my favorite content on the show. Oh and also WANNA send one out to Chris brave partner any who were often thinking of and from there just shout out the dopey nation and my friends in the dopey nation like the colleen's and the prodigal son of Baton Rouge Jeremy Turner Merman hot wheels Julie British do dave who sounds like Winston Churchill. I know this was supposed to be like a thirty second message but I got carried away so with that. I'M GONNA assign off say tools or to the dopey Dane unclog. Hey this is brady from Iowa. Congratulations on two hundred episodes love the new episodes of Dome back and listening into old ones with Yoon Chris both in them as well help. We're getting another two hundred more say strong doping nation tools dopey nation two hundred episodes. It's from the UK brighten. The dealer just want to say congratulations for making two hundred episodes is huge house listening when it was episode one three five and seven las tapes but yeah hopefully another two hundred so it's more me. Nathi tools rest in peace Chris. Please stay strong so that's to Lena's say tools. Do you know the Minana say toodle Xlt now. Wow Chris would like to say tutorials and you know when I do might might fake Jamaican thing. A Jamaican guy might say me not say tools if he doesn't WANNA say toodle so we said that a lot I would say me not say tools at the end and I love it when people say tools sounds very cool you think so you think Manasseh toodle sounds really making fun of me. I really I feel like that's very cool thing to say in our life. You'd never said anything that I've ever said is cool. Now you think not say but it sounds every sets and if he says it right right it sounds cool right sounds like something. It sounds like something like I wanna be a part of. I love that guy if he is the fear izzy effie everybody calling in has these great leg voices dude. It's fucking international dopey thing ready for some more diversity or known all the all the people leaving voice like leaving voicemails have these great wasted so how begets with the music and everything. That's the gun farmer it's calling from the Ganges forums northern cal that he has a soundtrack for his voice man. I wouldn't be surprised if when he walked on the street that music was playing playing playing like surrounding rounding him where he goes to the cloud of smoke. Now may very possibly anyway. You WanNa hear ridiculous story that I never told you before navy so a couple of weeks ago I was walking from one meeting to another catering meeting meeting and I was on the phone with the guy who actually invented the dopey Logo Graphic Design Ryan and I'm talking about like doing some work making some graphic or something and I see this guy walked past me and I'm sure it's the actor sure that plays Harry Potter. Daniel Radcliffe and Chris always told me how Daniel Radcliffe was this major alcoholic recovery so I say to Ryan. I gotta get off the phone. I gotta go and they get off the phone with Ryan and I take off after this man. You know he looks to me. He looks exactly like Daniel Radcliffe but he has a beard. He's wearing this very nice like designer suit. Stay slick like Harry Potter Harry Potter like an older Harry Potter glasses those round glasses no uh-huh so I just start running after him. He's wearing like a light blue cotton these suit because it's summer beginning in the summertime whatever br and I kind of nervous because I'm a big dairy butter fan you know and I stopped him and I said excuse me are you Daniel Radcliffe Radcliffe and he's like no and it turns out. He's very very gay American guy. He's nothing he's once. He starts talking doesn't seem anything like Harry Potter and it's it's pretty pretty embarrassing. Yeah and I said now you said no and then I said he said why and I said Oh. It's Kinda stupid but I might as well. I figured I might as well tell him because I've stopped him in the middle of the street. I'll have some sort of explanation exactly so I have a bunch of Dobie cards and I give them a dopey card and I say you know do this podcast asked and I thought you were Daniel. Radcliffe and I would have loved it if Daniel Radcliffe came on the shop and he's like okay whatever but I'll I'm gonNA recovering. Come on the left and weeks later. I'm doing catering jobs and go to go to any you know in mid town to to took cater at any the dude works at Ame on my comes up to the counter and I'm like Oh shit. It's Harry Potter and he didn't recognize is me when I recognized him and it was just it was like it was just ridiculous. Did you say you ask him again if he was yes. I said I said I said I said hey man he didn't recognize me and then for some reason I humiliated myself by reminding him of this this event. That's very funny. It's funny right now. I want to move move on. That's a good funny story story story. I want to move on to have you ever heard Amy Dresner on the show well here. Amy Dresner wanted to do a quick call and we amy Dresner is a super special guest of the show guest host rotating host and the dopey nation loves her. I think the DOPEY Nation Book Club Redder Book Awesome so here's little amy it's very exciting two hundred episode very very special guests the one the only the Californian author that we all love Amy Dresner welcome back to the show. Thank thank you dopey dress dobie drags. I know I have my own fucking Dolby fucking nickname now so stoked. I don't like I don't I don't like it when they call me dopey Dave. I don't like it. Why because I'm very talkin stupid insensitive. I like to be called. Dave from dopey. She's just Christ Christ. Well Good luck with the you know high micromanaging. Everyone's you know enjoy that. How's that working for you. It's going really well. Everyone's everyone's doing exactly what I want them to do. Following your script good constantly I am the director and they are the players in my life seen eye. I sometimes read the big book so what's going on dopey. That's flunking amazing right not not surprised I'm not surprised. I don't know I remember once. You and I were on the phone. You don't remember this. I remember this because I was walking from lower east side to Penn station Asian and I was sitting outside Penn station waiting for the train and I think Chris just died and we were planning when you were gonNA come back on and I said Amy I'm GonNa make this thing big big and you were like yeah sure you are remember that conversation now but now astle great no I mean why would you believe it but and it's not big yet but it's on from the grow jude your ambitious. Faulk and I think you have something really special. I think what makes dopey fucking special is the realness you know so. It's a very fake world right now where it's all about looking good in sounding good and saying the right. Pc Shit and all that kind of stuff up in dopey is a place where people really throw it down in our like hey I fucking relapse and here's this gnarly story and Blah Blah Blah and it's like you know we get down and dirty and it's like that's where the connection is. An Hari says the opposite of addiction connection and I don't think it's quite simple but I do think got a big part of recovery is connecting with other fuck in recovering addicts and hearing their stories and sharing your stories and not feeling alone and as I've said before when you feel you don't feel ashamed your dopamine rises and it's just like that's the whole thing and your thing is unfiltered and and in a world where everything's filtered so it doesn't pay as anyone off like people go up could talk about whatever and it's like that's created the dopey nation and the cohesiveness of that community in unity where everyone really six together and comes together for stop and it's it's fucking cool man. It's a really cool. I'm stoked to be part of it well. I'm stoked. You're part of it too and I appreciate everything said and yeah. I think that we never intended for it to be what it's become and it's so much more than we had intended it to be. You know just just by the nature of like like what you said before a message group of a bunch the people who have never met and yet love each other so much. I mean that is yeah. It's cool. It's it's funny when I hear all these people you know I've been I put out a message to the dopey nation to send in voicemails about what the show means to them and I got so many messages it's very emotional and a and and it's still very abstract but yeah but I'm proud and I'm excited. I mean tomorrow's Chris's birthday. Tomorrow's the two hundred episode Tuesday. It was my four years. It's like you nice right. You can't have that many things in one week without trying to make it as celebratory as possible. Absolutely I'm doing a face mask and fucking deep deep conditioning my Giuffra right now. I'm totally serious. you're making it happen celebration and celebration. Am I making a hat bats. I said you're making it happen. Are you making add to no. I don't wear out. I know I sent you A. Did you send me pictures with Adobe. Fuck Hugh Relax. What was I going to say. Do you have cucumbers on your is no. I am not doing a SPA treatment at home now. What did you said you said you face mail some kind in a mask scrub yeah yeah yeah yeah I got. I got friends. It's like Pumpkin Shit. It's not it's not it's not Joe Joe. Berry fuck is Joe Joe Bear. I think they do some kind of mass strip that sounds like a stripper and next up on the stage Joe Joel very vary. Give a round of applause go. That's funny. So what else going on with you. Amy talked to me. What's a good word. fucking life is in session man while you know we're going to do a whole other thing you know. Both my parents are ill. It's pretty fucking gnarly but I'm fucking staying clean through it and you know I think that's the other thing is where you're you're not about recoveries butterflies and UNICORNS and rainbows fairy dust because because that's not reality man the reality is life. St- keeps going and we don't have any place to check out. There's no way to check out this one fleeting. I thought the other night I was like I gotta go. Fuck someone get out of my body right. Hey slow your roll. You know let's go get a massage like chill-out taking nap like we'll. We'll be cool but it's like it's real light with no filter and it's beautiful and it's also really intense and painful sometimes well. I remember the other night when you were about to go. Fuck somebody. I was like board and I was looking at twitter and you posted that you you. You know like when you feel like that didn't say I like to go. Fuck people what you said was. I want to go work out or clean my house to get out of my head and before that wanting to fuck someone that came after he realized that he realized that was doing it for you. Do you needed something else. Lie Traders on a trip so I can't work out right now. You know all these feelings. Why have I'm taking these. It was old so those old impulses come up and it's like you know and instead like I did. My laundry got my outed furthest fucking. Reno gala that I'm doing in on September fourteenth. I you know I got my sunk. My I'd glasses adjusted. I thought you know what I mean. I'm like washed my hair. I went to the market I was just like keep it rolling barrel and the bad feelings paths yeah aw I reach out to people and like I got a manicure like south cancer. I hate that word but like you know it's important. I can't you know you gotta take care of yourself. You can't show show up. Rather people and it's just so you know I just yeah. I'm channeling my energies into into positive stop and not doing a ton of writing which is pissing me off I am I'm working on my dad's pilot which is cool. You know that's I like all the I like all the humble bragging on your trainer and your Gig in Reno Oh and all these nice little humble brags you go. Oh I hate you so much. I like I like it. I like that I wrote come on and single single and I'll be fifth member with my cat got laid in two and a half years. Is that enough reality. You've a very luxurious cat though that is not some stray cat cats got to cause a lot of money that cat on my book advanced and I bought myself a cat amazing amazing aiming. You never cease to amaze me. I love having you on the show. I love that you're a part of this thing you bring hope to the hopeless light to the darkness and buyer bug in my fair junky and look for amy on dopey very soon for having me on man you fucking doing amazing. Shit for real well reels the real deal and people are attracted to the real and that's what makes them feel connected and gives people hope and that's what you're doing and I'm so fucking honored thank you. That's very sweet but you don't need to be honored. You know in how we do and we'll get you on again. I can't for the real thing but it's very nice to have you for Christmas. Get on and talk about some heavy. We're going to talk about illness S. We're talking about parents illness and staying sober appearance illnesses and stuff like that look forward to have a very uplifting episode dope coming and maybe if the stars Align Amy Dresner also be adobe gone if the stars Alliance God please. Yes how share make it happen and we thank you so much all right love to have you chewed. Amy Dresner. I was thinking about some of the things amy said. Were you thinking about. She's said a lot of interesting stuff. I like the way. She said she hates the term self care. I think that's funny because it is like an annoying term but it's so important you don't you're you haven't had any time to practice himself care and ended. I mean it's for different reasons. I mean you can really feel you feel yourself getting getting worn down when you don't have any time to just take care of those little little things right you know but one of the things she said was about you know how hard it is when you're in recovering you can't even have like that minute of checking out you can in the self care kind of way like get a manicure or go to the market. You know like like like you made the joke like what that wasn't enough and you laughed because in a way does feel kind of half assed but it's it's not checking out the the way we used to which is like complete and Total Checkout Annihilation Oblivion rain and but I mean it as somebody who can still have the occasional glasser two of wine. Sometimes I do feel like almost guilty that I can just you know if I have had a rough day. I can have a little bit of a buzz and it does take away some of my woes temporarily and I knew can't or Orion one of my good friends and I'm just I just that was like what I was thinking about after she talked or my friends and recovery who I that's why I've said this before on the show. I have such admiration for people who have to like she said deal with like. It's just so fucking raw like there's no checking out no matter how bad shit cats and there's things you can do. Obviously there are things that I do to check out with. You're not screwed. Obviously people people find ways to still live fabulous lives. I'm just saying I admire that about me. You admire me for for for that. I think it's very strong wrong. I think you eat a lot of sugar. So where's the ad I though admiring me right now I do but I do think you have your I do I do now. That's pretty extreme. It's not that extreme but just saying you know what I know what story I never we're told on dopey and you might want to not include this but it's something that something that was interesting. I just said totally totally totally make sense because like do you ever feel like especially with what happened with todd than Chris than just a lot of trauma having having a newborn a house that you've never had to deal with like. Did you ever have a moment where you're like. I wish I could just check the fuck out. No no I mean I've I've wished I could check out but not through the no absences no because in my head I have this understanding and the understanding is there is no brief checkout for me. If I do one of anything I'm GONNA WANNA just do it forever and I mean that that goes for ice cream and and I feel that feeling when I take the first spoonful of ice cream that I wanted to last forever but with ice cream it won't last forever last night way I bring up the sugar and it's like it sounds stupid like all the Shiva Nudie sugar but you do have a very similar relationship with sweets that you did so boost the dopamine. It's very similar chemical that it's releasing in your brain but you have a very similar relationship and that you will devour everything in sight but I don't I mean that's the thing I actually I used to actually like when I lived alone in Manhattan. If I bought a bag of cookies I would eat the whole bag cookies that night and I don't do that anymore. That's why all by two cookies. We're all by the super bookie or whatever okay so tabled. We get these like really good like dark chocolate chocolate chip yogurt bars Dave. Thanks because there's like some some yogurt and it's like you may use eat the part that he calls it. A pot bar always likes the halfway through the bar and he starts like like complaining and I'm like what's GonNa tell them what I said. He'll be like it's just over too soon and it's to show small and I I feel like I it's just it's just never enough and he's sitting there like still eating it already already upset almost gone and we'll we'll usually we'll go get a second one but a lot of times. There's not laughed because there's four in a doc and there's three of us so the hill you know he'll often have to and then we'll start that complaining we'll start again as he gets to the last couple of weeks also so those promises very telling those. POPs are just a little too small. You're almost not enjoying your popup. Put because you're too upset that it's about to be over. I thought you don't like calling it a pump though you call it a pop that's why like honestly that's why one of the real bad for you that you can enjoy your your dessert because you're so worried about being. I feel bad for me to last night right. I'm putting this show together. I'm like I'm organizing. I'm doing half of these interviews last night and organizing all of the voicemails and in late you know and I have these terrible allergies you know and I get remember I started sneezing and then oh you said something and I'm sneezing and then I'm like excited for Christmas. I'm excited right it like it's the night before Christmas and I'm excited for the two hundred episodes Ken and but I'm sneezing so like I'm like you know I could really go for some Benadryl so so I run out of the bad Benadryl and I run downstairs and there's no Benadryl in where we usually keep Benadryl and then I lately I've been Ruben Robin chugging the children's Benadryl Children's and you you're the one who told me to do it and then I went upstairs and look for the Benadryl on Andro and I couldn't find any Benadryl but you know what I found is yours. ZANEX broken in half and the medicine chest like one pill broken in half and I swear where last night I was like if I took that Zanex I I would sleep like a baby and wake up so rested but then I said to myself I'm I'm not GonNa take a fucking xanax. You know what I mean. I'm not going to do it and then it reminded me of. This is the story that I wanted to tell probably like three months ago or something like I'm sitting on the couch and you come up to me. Did you steal Xanax or did you take this remember. You found like half xanax someplace and you're like did you take take the other half of the Xanax and I was like what did I think I found it. Where was it I don't know but I said no and like it. Was this amazing moment allman or like. I knew I didn't take his antics and it's just like I've been clean you know for years but still the luxury of knowing right. I didn't take that Xanax. It was just like felt so I felt great and the reason that and when you say you feel bad that I can't have a drink or I can't can't get out of my head in the way that you do or so many other people do I can if I if I if I could get wine right now and there's nothing stopping me. I really like my life. You know what I mean like. I just like my life the way it is and I'm an addict and if I if I take something I I wanna keep taking it and the real lesson is in cigarettes for me though I walk down the streets of Manhattan every most days and I smell the cigarettes and I I just I love the smell and I just love smoking but you know my lungs were fucked up when I was smoking and I was all fucked up and I would smoke okay. You know twenty to thirty cigarettes a day when you're getting bronchitis many times a year. He'd be what he he'd like. We had pumps everywhere like Atla. Were they like bronchial. It was like that's not normal to just be having those all over the place and use your Sh. That's it's not a normal way to be taken care of your lungs no but so like I don't smoke and I think about asking somebody for a cigarette constantly but if there's one thing that I know number one a cigarette after smoking for two years is GonNa. Make me sick to my stomach to do. It's GonNa last for a minute and then my not smoking is over and then I'm GonNa need to smoke and you have to go through that whole or not but I think process which was not easy but the bottom line isn't what I can't do. It's really like and the sounds Corny but I know but I really like my life like as much as like we bicker from time to time and as much as like I worked too hard and I'm I really like like this life and I'm I'm shocked and the only reason that I have this life is because because I got sober you know we we we wouldn't have this life of handgun sober. You know I and I don't mean like I feel bad. You can't like drank or you're really not missing much. I didn't mean it like that. I just meant that a release us us. Just kind of piggybacking off with amy had said is that there's times where you know you just want to check out and and that's you know and it's it's not a good feeling to want to like. Check out of your life. Well wanting to totally natural. It's it's like I think having a couple of glasses of wine if you're not an alcoholic or a drug addict that's great. You know what I mean. Enjoy yourself right but if you can't fuck if you can't do it in a nice nice life. You can't do it in a nice life. If you're having a couple of drinks you know every single night with the intention of checking out of your life. Muntz renewed. That's like what's going on with your life. You know like what's what's up but anyway so here. Here's a question you want to call my dad or you want to call all SAM first. Let's call Sam okay before we call Sam. I just want to do a quick at bad for our new sponsor Haagen Dazs ice cream chocolate chocolate chip when I sounds during the martial when I eat when when I hit haagen-dazs chocolate chocolate chip ice cream I mix peanut butter into it and you bought that Justin's peanut butter and I swear swear to God in the first few moments of eating it the checkout. I figured checking out. I'm checking out but I swear to you when I say this. I feel lucky not that. I get to be eating it. I'm like I'm like my life is so good right now and it's crazy when when my teeth start breaking those as little chunky nuggets of chocolate in the haagen-dazs chocolate chocolate chip it's like ecstasy exploding into my brain and you mix it with that that super smooth. Justin's fucking peanut butter that that's what I'm talking about. That is my fucking checkout. Imagine how hard it would be for you. I'm stop eating thing. I'm eating this whole thing tonight. Celebrate Christmas fucking celebrations tonight with this the sugars coursing through me that she just did oh you did. They feel it. Do you think that they have rehabs for people with with food addiction the problem that you have. I don't have a problem problem here the way you just described. That's love your dessert. That's lover inequality SAM now. We think there's a problem with that the other problem. I think if your doctor says you have you have diabetes needs to stop eating sugar. You're in trouble. That'll be a problem. Hello Sam you're on on the show. Welcome back. Well thank you. Thanks for having me in Hi Sam. How are you. I'm good so what so what the Dobie lesion needs to know is that Sam helps me make this show weaken week out. He is a producer of the show oh he he helps to get the best ad reads out of me to make the show happen and I have to say thank you for all of your hard work and commitment into the show. You're welcome yeah. It's not always easy. It's it's a process but I think we've really found are group's. We're in a good groove for backing the New York groove as as freely would say now. Do you know who as freely kiss was my I concert Monica but I just thought you should have a place in the fucking two hundred episode in the Christmas spirit so this is your place voice. Welcome welcome to the show. Thank you for all you do well. It's it's nice to be on. It's nice to be on this the episode especially you know it's such a monumental milestone in the history of gop and and really you know to hit two hundred for any podcast is pretty frigging remarkable right. I mean like Linda and I were listening to the evolution of dopey thing and you really feel like life passing and things exchanging we can we out especially when you talk so much about your life now so I think that's a cool thing about the show and speaking of evolution you know I've talked. Excuse me one thing that I thought was what was that that was lung oyster coming up to can't stop smoking Sam. I Know Linda. I know I quit for two months. After I got out of the hospital the Monja continue yeah anyway yes. It's my my lungs are rich. It's always department wants. What's gotTA come up. What don't do that again. Sam what she says she says nice cream so I can hear here anymore wasters when he called clams oysters landlords are. I don't mean to disgust you but I I can't really help that. I enjoy a scream so the what I find remarkable about the evolution of job is that when when you increase started you had you know your newcomer you had four months of sobriety and Chris had about a year and a half yeah yeah yeah. It's possible that maybe I shouldn't have started an addiction recovery podcast but it's classic. It's classic style. They they for you to do that to take that on as you know it's classic and I would be have been disappointed. Had you not undertaken Kebir like that but which is to say that you know you. Y- weren't you're clean but you weren't particularly sober at the time time and Chris. I'm listening to old episodes especially the early ones having sort of had a sneak peek at some of Worcester's compilations compilations you hear Chris. He sounds very why is he sounds very sober right in those days and and you being really adamant about not bring recovery in you're just defiant and that you just want you know talk about you know. Sumberg art gnarly drug stories but as the show progressed over off these episodes these two hundred episodes. You've really gotten quite sober. You're really you've really become He walked. He's now. He walks the walk. He's walking the walk Keith Easter. I used to neither I used a neither. Walk the walk nor talk the talk doc and now I walk the walk and talk the talk a little bit yeah. Yeah and I also want to say happy four year sober anniversary to us do that. That's let's remarkable while we're on this topic. I appreciate you never really sober at the same time you you know who you and I when we met in Florida. We weren't really sober over then we were sober then then but we works shady means. San Salmon I met in in Delray Beach Florida and we worked on furniture truck and like every day after work we'd go oh swim in the eighty degree ocean and we would call it go floating and pondering and we'd float we'd cloud floating ponder the universe we'd we go swimming in the afternoon and it was so it was very nice except that in the Atlantic Ocean in Florida when we were there they had these problems with what was it like sand fleas Caesar Ocean fleas or what was that thing they've flipped his on top of the ocean that skittering around disgust and so when you're trying to float encounter and be peaceful in meditative you know it's fucking little organisms revolting but and I appreciate the call and I appreciate just to celebrate my sobriety because like I didn't even tell Linda that I was coming up on four years yeah I. I didn't even mention it in fact. Dong me sorry. That's a funny story. The day that I got the four years it was it was Tuesday and I had mentioned it to her. and I got I got up at four forty five. I caught the five forty five turned into Manhattan and I was like Holy Shit. It's my four years so I posted posted it on instagram posted a picture of me and Norah like when I was still smoking weed and stuff and then I posed the whole family and and and I texted Linda something something but I hadn't mentioned the four years and then I was like I got four years today Linda tax. I know I saw on your instagram. That's where I learned about you. He's like Oh. It's four years. He goes let me put that on Instagram as opposed to let me like like like let me check in with my friends. Let me at least give my my life partner adds up. This is coming out up down the road. Just let just let me know before you before you jump on the Sesame Sam you have to admit like I talked to. Sam constantly a little bit less than I talked to you and and did I. I didn't mention either the four years I knew it was coming up. Only maybe a month ahead of time but I don't think I but I but I didn't talk about it. I think I mentioned I remember last like I was on the phone with Dr Drew and you were like like Oh shit. Remember Yeah Yeah so there you go so there you go but Linda. You should be proud. You got a huge park in you know in all of this so you know you know. I Love You love you. When you're on the show Dad you know your support. Is You know keeping. Dave going and I've come around. It's been it's been a it's been depends. What time of the date is to see how far she's come around on this but but no I would have have nothing. My recovery is first then. My family is second. Thenn work is third and then dopey is a solid fourth place but that's a lot of good stuff I yeah I don't think I would have shit my life would suck without Linda in it so yeah. I mean that's for sure without a should see her so beautiful eating eating the whole pint of congressional ice cream stock up stand. Do you have a backup pint. No I don't I just have. I just have those fucking yogurt bars. I think this is really just what you're going to have the meaning it would have to finish up and go get yourself a rookie. You know an ice cream celebrate the two hundred she's eating myself vitalize right now anyway anyway. Thank you Sam and thank you for everything you do and Merry Christmas. It's America's do kristen may rest in peace and Jokin nation. Stay strong and Woodall's later so that's producer Sam Damn sticking by the show celebrating my sobriety dedicated that Sam well. I think that the show is actually really good for his his sobriety and I think he loves. Sam loves making stuff and SAM SAM. Sam are tight. We've always been good friends even if we weren't like in touch judge but I think he saw it as an opportunity to make something with me and I I really really trust his opinion. I like his critical mind. He's organized. He can do things as I can't do and I. I enjoy that I enjoy working with him. Let's hear some more dopey nation stuff still merry Christmas Topi nation and this is corey from Florida and while I'm not a flake to pay come from a family of people who are and for me. Topi hopes to understand a little bit more input. They're going through and put it all in perspective and for that unperfect grateful we miss you so much. Chris and stay strong nation toodle Hey this is Dan from Marin County and but just want to let you know that I'm a longtime listener about three years Dobie and it's been key to my sobriety because I'm a carpenter contractor who works by himself and It's just been great for my sobriety. Keep up the good work. Dave what's up typing Asian America United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland so we're just calling in to say Merry Christmas Stay Jong and Ah socks. I E O B nation what's up. It's Tim calling from Philly. I'm just on into wish the show Dave. All the guys are happy two hundred episode. What a feed what what a what an experience it's been what a journey you know? This show is is is is real life and you know with real life comes Israel things and there's been a lot of joy and a lot of happiness and laughter and there's obviously been a lot of a lot of heartache and so but either way the show still going and it's growing and I'm I'm just happy that you know uh our our man at the helm didn't give up so Dave Kudos. Keep going keep growing this thing and keep helping each other because that's what we need and merry Christmas of course the other man that was involved in this. You know that that I think about all the time. I just wanted to shout out to him. Wherever he's at he made a big impact on my life life and I just I really really truly miss hear his voice every week so toodle for Chris. It's just a big big congratulations to the show man. Hey Toby nation meetings from philly. It's a two hundred episode. It's Christmas and all I want to say is thanks keeping me company over the years tootle Chris. I have to say these messages like giving me the chills especially Tim and Tina China Tim he sent he was the king of Dobie voicemails and I remember being crestwood. Listen to we'd be doing a show. We'd be doing a number of shows and then Tim Tim would send in some fucked up story and mean Chris would like get high on the story and both of us would just remember the worst stuff we had ever done and we'd just go crazy like he would kick off episodes so easily. Tina she wrote in like the first like super complimentary emails. She was in the first email but she was the first super complimentary email and Tina was also a big fan of Howard stern and she could see like how much I loved Howard and like she was just so fucking complimentary and I remember that Chris like called Tina unlike some Dr Driving Between Boston in in New York and he called teen and he's like maybe I'm GonNa go check out Tina drive to Philly and like this is very sweet and she and she also like when when we started the show she had been cleaned for years then she relapsed and and was using and was sending in all sorts of like why the fuck shouldn't I use I use like what's the point of being clean really powerful stuff that we dissect it and talked about forever and then Chris died and she still building get it together and then one of her best friends died and she was like enough fuck enough and she wound up getting sober again pretty recently and I'm pretty sure she's sober but she's always been in the dopey corner and it's just it's very we you know and I love to hear from them. A reminds me of how long we've been doing this and and also how funny it is. I met Tim once. Tim came through cats is once and and I'm an once and it was cool. Never met Tina never met like most of the real true blues news but Tina's GonNa wind up at dopey con. I'm sure yeah if you as a real true blues you should come to fuck and dopey con although I think it only fits one hundred people speaking of true blues. We are going to call my dad who you know. I think he's the fan favorite I. I think he's more popular than you away. I think he's more popular than me definitely and I think he's more popular than they might be more popular than Chris at this point. Have you see the facebook group where like they're like. We Love Brand Pailin facebook group. That's funny. There probably will be now that you mentioned it but they had a thread about like back doing a spin off podcast just with my dad and what should they call it and he texted me. No I'm not going to do a podcast like right away. You know the Chagos goes right through his head immediately right. Oh Shit hold on. Let me get the right. Number is upstate ready gas ask. Hey you're on the show your merry Christmas happy two hundred episode Merry Christmas Christmas and happy two hundred episodes and everybody stay strong and dopey nation. What's your podcast. GonNa be called. I'm not having any podcast. That's going to happen Linda's here too by the way speaking aura midnight. Dad wanted to wake them up. I'm talking about tomorrow. We'll wait no the podcast now story. You should tell with my dad on the phone. Tell the story about when we were upstate and you went to the bathroom in the middle of the night. Oh No that's that's not good. Tell that story and so we were up at the lake and I got up to go to the bathroom and really it's a funny story so so I did my business sir dirty business dirty business and then for some reason I turned around to look into the toilet bowl and there was a the little shadow on on the toilet paper and so I was like that's weird so I looked closer and it was a mouse house that was hanging onto the toilet paper and I'm assuming that I left like peed on the mouse so I freaked out and I ran I woke up Dave and so dave came in and he looked and then he ran into the bedroom and grabbed a sock doc and was gonna put in a sock and throw it off the balcony and then we then I said no you can't you can't kill it so then he took it in the doc and released it outside while while Grandpa Alan is downstairs on the basement level with like fifty mouse traps set up in the morning. You told the story and what did you say that there's no way you should save. That mouse was alive no way because everybody loves GRANDPA Alan Everyone Hula. Uh wants to Alan Taylor killing rodents all over the place. I ate the house warm all winter so that happy though but South East and mice not good not good so what do you say to all of your super fans around the world terrific that taking my side against you. That's for sure what else they can. They can see that at that. I need help be nice to you father. What do you come on what else you got to say. That's it mass sweet. No I mean everybody is they stay healthy and be strong and remember Chris. We love. You Dad thank you. I I love you. I love you hold up Polo. I want you to make it clear that I'm not mean to you. Isn't that meal harsh. I'm tired. I'm not being mean gene thank you. Can you extremes out for the audience. Please all right. Listen My my son. My son thinks it's good to uh-huh dopey by getting me upset so he doesn't do need to get higher rating. No let's be clear when I I don't want. I don't insult you when I don't try to. You know like fuck with you a little bit. Razz new tell me the show is boring and you say oh. That was a good interview but I really prefer the humorous stuff and then you really don't like the the shows you're not on so I really do it to make to make you happy. You know that right right of course not no. You don't do it to make me happy no anyway what he called. You're you're you're perfectly good at doing what you're doing and sometimes and sometimes he'd just get me upset really be nation. I love him very much and he's adorable and terrific. Though it does cause troubles me sometimes Mike. Maybe twenty years worth so you're saying that you don't you blaming the victim you don't. I think it's funny when I when I get angry at you. You just you think it's funny. I love that stuff. Do not listen sometimes. Sometimes we say things like what care we right guy dicing. I'm the world's authority on podcasts. I mean were so you think that I don't like any show that I'm not on. Those are not true well off. Let's just we'll even at the wonderful appearance and thank you for coming on the show and I love you and hopefully you'll be up soon when he comes when he comes to the House he complains lanes about what we bring him for dinner like we're not allowed to serve him the same cancer this guy he's like. He's too good for the stuffed peppers. He's some kind of food snob now right Dan. I say things that aren't true. I mean just because just because you have to food groups me. I don't like well you. Also you have to admit that one thing that you've taught me is a joy in complaining you live to complain and you've passed that on to me and like the funny thing is we'll have dinner with his family and my dad will start complaining and then. I'll get into it and Linden or mother look aghast because that's not that's not their family's tradition where are complaining brings our family closer. Nora loves combining Norwegian Norwegian don't like the complaint. That's what it is now. I really complainants. Just you know time. She say what's true off you. You've admitted that you like complaining. Though I well what is deserving of course yeah you really hold him back right especially when at least the corrections you know when when when things when she you things change because people realize the complaint was is true like you making help force things about me. That's a legitimate complaint having to eat stuff half peppers all the time yeah we can do it out of adverse. It looks plan all right. I think your appearance is now gone a little too long but thank you for coming along and we love you and see you soon and base strong dopey nations love. Linda Nora Suzy Suzzie family but I can I there. He is complaining. Allen that should it be called complaining Alan now. Everybody loves Allen. Yes everybody loves out all right well. I want to do a little more Chris in Linda's running out of steam. I think so you WANNA go or you want to hear a little more cruiser you WanNa do I think I'm gonNA I wanNA listen but I think I'm gonNA. I'M GONNA and check out. Get myself ready for bed just because we have a baby that likes to wake up during the night and I'm feeling anxious about so one more time good night tonight nine. I love you. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me and thanks reading my ice cream and that's great and I actually like Sam said I feel feel. I also feel honored that I got to be a part of this episode you do. I do after all the hat after what after all the the hemming in the Hong about starting lording over and all this stuff now no I mean I I feel so grateful to be a part of this and and like I said before I'm very proud of you. Thank you and and I love you and stay strong dopey nation. I no no no you can't go yet. We have two more batch of a fan stuff. Okay you ready okay or just one special fan that I want your reaction for okay. Okay okay. It's I'm Candy Dick Dandy Dick Sister. I'm the funny Dick now. That was a joke. That wasn't the one I want you to air force. Here's the one I want you to be here for this is a message for all the GOP's in the dope Um and days that had don't it's chain curtis congratulating you on telling the truth and Tanya with humor rage and tears hope and I'm proud of you and proud to be one of you something semi it'll be forever about. I love her. I want you to get all emotional about Jay now. I think she's so awesome and I love that. She calls the head dope. That's my favorite thing. It's I just love how like she saw emotional and I know passionate passionate and just like she just means every word and I just think she's amazing. It's very cool that she followed up with us and she just it's really like she feels it feels that and so-called Jamie Lee Curtis. She's so famous but I'll tell you I'll tell you when we did did the first hour we did laugh a bunch and like when I played that evolution of Dopey like I cry I welled up at the end like and all of this stuff is very emotional and well even as you're playing the waste miles from the fans. You know I see I can sign watching Ching his face and I can see that. It's just having this really big impact hearing all of these different people from all over the world. I know saying you know the show means and like its before edible before you go to bed. I want you to tell oh the dopey nation about what we're GONNA. Do the last weekend in September. Oh I don't even have a really explain it. There's a a festival like recovery festival or a wellness festival but it's in West Virginia. It's called healing. I think it's in the Appalachian Mountains and they're having us. You know musicians summers. Some are relatively relatively while Kno Taht Tyler Children's I think as the guy's name the most famous one he headlines The festival. There's some some relatively well-known people and it's but it's based around I think around your addiction and the woman who runs the festival wanted Dave to come and be the UH say for the whole festival so introduce all the acts and it was pretty crazy right and you know I guess to tell jokes it is. I don't think so I want to introduce the acts. The knock knock jokes threat prepared right like no one so we're all flying there and we're staying on this woman's woman's farm and that we're taking our two kids so that's going to be interesting me and the kids hanging out in like a field watching. Dave introduced drug addict bands and stem see this thing but it's GonNa be a wild experience and I think it's a real. It's very flattering. It's a real honor that she wanted Dave to to do this. Yeah it's amazing and I think it's a great warm up for dopey cod. It's two weeks before adobe so it'll be like it's GonNa be like thousands of people that I'm GonNa have to speak in in front of which I've never done. It's going to be weird yeah so anyway you can go to bed. I love you. Thank you for coming on for having me but so so Christmas is almost over Linda's gone. I had the pleasure of talking with the dopey benefactor dopey friend dopey inspiration bob forrest and I want you guys to hear about it so here's Bob so what's up. It would not be adobe two hundred opening. Hey h-share he just jumped in. It is hundred episodes of this nonsense two hundred two baht. It's Bob Forrest orest friend of the show benefactor of the show fucking. It's love this show such a such a profound cheerleader lover of the show which I think really helped the show to be honest with still history of how I learned about the show. Tell the story so so ooh before I met you on the streets of New York people that were working for me and people that are my co host Zahn podcast and a twelve step community. People were talking. Rod Mad Shit about this podcast. The Romanticized Miss is drugs and just didn't talk about recovery budget drugstores and I was like sounds great the name. What is this podcast you know now. Chuck is your biggest devotee but he'd like it at all. I know in my description for like four or five people dopey wise. I knew that I would love it. That's before. I knew it was you that it was Christopher former client online. I just knew like hey I got to figure out where to find this dopey podcasts because that sounds like something that I would love. It's so funny because then Dopey podcast found you and we just ran into each other dogs. Do I know but literally I worked in that restaurant like eleven eleven years and I saw people here and there but like if there was any way Chris and I would talk about it if I could run into anybody. You were like top. Two people and I remember I remember I fuck in. I had a tray of food coming out of the fries station. You're standing at the FRY the station with a plate of fries in your hat and I'm like this dude looks like Bob Forrest and Iran to the table serve the people and you went to the back of the store and I ran up to you and I said are you Bob Forrest. You're like yeah and I was like I do this. fucked up podcast about drugs and you were with with your family and you're giving up so slow. I still didn't realize that it was the one that people were talking shit about. I'm not good with names now. took me a long time to even understand that it's be. What did you think it was. I knew it was something to do with while the way people were describing it. I just thought here's I think the way people are describing to me. I thought it was like two twenty year old stone guys doing it. When I told I told my sponsor about it originally only he said that it sounded like Wayne's world to him like Beavis and butthead or something right yeah well it was Kinda was like that and it was it was a lot of fun. I also remember the first night you came on Krizan. I were or grazing back to his parents house in the Hamptons and get you on the phone and we called you and you have this ridiculous victimless voicemail which is like you laugh. You're like you're like sound like like some kind the joker he's not going to answer the fucking phone and Chris was so excited because he had been in your treatment he had been in hair care so and I remember him because you know there. There's it's three kinds that were like him and I at different times. I addressed all go over a period of years where they're totally guide like me. Who totally we get it sharp bullshitting everyone. I knew there bullshitting everyone. They knew that I knew that they were bullshitting. Everyone that they weren't psych patients that they didn't belong along the psych part of the hospital. They were just avoiding being in the Rehab part of the hospital and I would have these Raddatz with that. Might these these these joking around has that psych meds doing for you. Because most people inside gourds do belong you can tell Oh yeah Christmas stories stories of Israel and like you know loaning people money for cigarettes. Listen running the show there it was like one flew over the CUCKOO's nest thing. Yes exactly like that but what he would say about you. You know he talk about Chris. Actually I whenever I went to Rehab. I barely got anything out of it but Chris. Somehow Chris got a lot of different rehabs and he would say he he loved being your patient because you would just sit back in your chair and laugh at everything said like because he was so full of Shit and like that was like Mike profound. We'll talk about these elaborate elaborate like you know same as what him becoming educated did was give give like kind of value to all the stuff he was saying as a client like you know you know. I remember where he would say things like he was one of the first people that it was a trade that started getting used in the late nineties early two thousands. Do you believe that willful neglect not as bad as physical a physically beating abuse physical abuse the abuse and I'd be like what are you talking about. I didn't even know what willful neglect right right exactly zeroing in on a- because he couldn't say I come from the hood my mom's in prostitute and they beat me all the time. He couldn't say that so he was looking for intellectual arguments to explain flaine yeah totally totally. It's amazing and now we've we've come such a long way. I heard I heard you guys is on. Don't die talking shit about me talking shit about dopey Dave. You're like dopey. Dave don't like talking about shooting dope in the neck. uh-huh which I was honored. I was honored to be mentioned on the show well because you here's the thing I think that the dynamic between your increase was Chris always went too far and then your role was to bring it back before everybody got totally offended or turned off sometimes and most but most of the role was just me yelling at Chris Chris being a dumb as responsible and stop saying saying all the crazy stuff he would say so without Chris. Now you just a little to moderate legends. Go don't guard urge yourself because your children might hear it twenty years you give me a break but even if you've never listened to a minute of the show. GimMe a break come on you. Have you're sitting back and listening to the show really. Do you think I'm too moderate to tell stories in the car. I listen to it. I'm honored. I can't believe it. I cannot believe it. I'm honored. I think I've told some good some good tails you. You've told a couple of Moseley now. You're just like an interviewer. The interviews is are are excellent. Thank you much more excellent interviewer here zeroes in interviewer. There's very few people I'm really interested in. They have to say like your wallet and I was silent right. I really want to hear what he has to say but like a a lot of people here and what they say because there's so much celebrity now it's just crazy. There's too much celebrity. We gotTa tone down the celebrity. We gotta have a number limit on it like three thousand four hundred eighty three celebrities. That's all there can be or you. Don't you don't think that the deviation in importance of celebrity kind of trump's that like like to some people to really like really weird people. I'm some kind of celebrity. You need shock. Come on you. Chuck your like our one named name people who aren't celebrities. There's actually last right right. My Dad is kind of celebrity now. They all love my dad. It's funny you're right. I think of the boss you always talk about. The restaurant is kind of a celebrity. I kind of know him. He's you know we know your culture. We're living in your you're right. So what do we do. What do we do about what we do about this. Well I'd just myself. I'm only interested in the people that I'm interested in what they have this like you have. Have you seen the new rolling Documentary Bob Dylan thing I did. I totally saw as as you know my favorite part of it is in the first five minutes yeah that Dylan Inter were Jones like I don't fucking Shit. He's like he's like he's like. I don't believe any of it. I see my theory is that when Dylan said that Scorsese said to himself what the fuck am I going to do with this and then he had that idea to make kind of tall tales and legends of the tour when he said it was fifty years before we've seen bore you're right well. That's when he hit his stride. That's when he hit his stride. Oh Bob tell the story about when you met Bob Dylan Man I met him was at Madison Square Greg Garden and you know he's been my idol my whole life in two thousand eleven years old and Michael Stipe. There's a band called Golden Palomino playing and Michael Stipe was a singer fish and he comes your idols in the hallway and like everybody knew Bob Dylan's mind I. I looked out in the hallway. I'm Bob Dylan himself in the hallway of Addison scoring guard so Shit Oh shit and I walked over to him and he was standing outside of the Los Lobos dressing room well. He was like waiting to meet Los Lobos and I said Oh my God I just love you so much and you know I know you have a million people come up to you and and I just didn't he put his hand out to shake my hand and he said Oh Yemen thanks a lot like before it was like cutting my compliments off and deputy up and when he shook my hand you have those billy idol leather gloves on with the no fingers and are thinking supposed to wear those fucking lame gloves maybe maybe after the show he was going to play handball or something you needed to handball gloves and then he came in and everybody was like Bob Dylan's here and Liga's. Where's Bob Dylan Hallway. I'll do it went up to Cleveland up to Bob doing such Red Hot Chili peppers coverage or Song Subterranean Homesick Blues and we wondered if you ever heard it and he took 'em Ed. Thanks a lot right right anybody. That comes up to you what you recoup. The handshake means. Get the fuck away from me. Well it's Bob done. You know what I mean. I get that what do you think about the old Bob Dylan as heroin addict story Ratto told me was. Do you think he was a heroin. How long do you think it lasted. How long do you think do you think he got out of it derives fake motorcycle class and eat the document John Lennon and him on the back of that Iran dope and taxi yeah they're on heroine there so that sixty six six and then I think he comes out with new morning is wanted ended so that seventy one or seventy when I used to kick when I used to kicked up. I had an apartment in Manhattan Chelsea and I would kick you know a couple of times. A year and new morning was the record. I would always love that out. I would always play that record her and the window sign in the window says lonely lonely Melania why didn't Catch Rainbow Trout. That's tail here doodle call me Com. Dan must be words Val. That's why that's why we're living our lives because line Bob Dylan having children as what life's all about sign in the window bobby. You just gave me the total chills all right. That's that's amazing so let's celebrate the two hundred and we gotta we gotta keep going keep broke. Keep this rolling thunder train. A movement called Dr Drew. We know he's in Dr. Drew's in doctor introduced a paltry four minutes but he wasn't saying in fucking sign on the windows so surprised when I told you I told you Dr Jus get a love dopey. You're like the way I know him. He's GonNa love this. He really does love it he. He's he's sweetheart. Dr Joe you know your dopey bow t do know that they had me to their apartment in Manhattan to record. They paid me to engineer their show. Oh God I've never had the privilege of going where they live. They always meet me in a cab down to shut the fuck nine. I don't believe me above uh-huh. I never wanted to be a fourteenth street. Well well no but they moved. They moved literally right down the street from where my dad lives and they but the funny thing is that they paid me to be their engineer. I'm no but I'm not good engineers the point you're learning a skill. Yes Sir yes Sir Bob. I love you thank. We learned on their Apron Rock and we'll I so so I I never know when I'm in my car. I just go to podcast Narran. I don't have a couple of other ones. I just because I'm driving and I don't want to listen to music. I just push whatever I end up listening to something so but all push towards the top of the downloads I want to hear some really graphic stories of your drug use in the next two or three episodes not obviously this adversary episodes. I WanNa hear nine never shot in the neck but I was with a guy one time the shot up in the neck and I thought if I ever get I will stop. That was your thing. I remember when I used to cop downtown. You couldn't top downtown in. La without seeing somebody shooting up in their neck literally like literally you're fucking walking down the street and somebody's on like whatever Saint Julien or whatever those streets are e cetera Julian one thing about so there was a girl Kosice passed away. Unfortunately I won't sing her name shoes just lovely enter the famous writer and and She's BP because you know notoriously girls being a little deeper and they should out ostrom whatever and she shot it she could see scrunch her forehead and make the being in Florida came out and she would enter forehead bank. Yeah I never saw that gently right. There like a bunch of needle track chat march four terrible. This is terrible but I- delighted kids near the Best Bob. Thanks I love the later for all right so that was bob and I think this is the longest episode of Dobie in the history of Dobie but fucking the two hundred episode and you know it's a celebration. If you guys are still listening you're still listening and I want to get as many people as I can. So here's the fucking near some more dopey people doping nation folks celebrating happy to hundreds episode Dobie podcast. I wish Chris was here era but I'm sure he's up there. Somewhere smiling down on all of us donation has helped me and so many other so thank you dave for continuing your great work piece. Merry Christmas toby. Hi Dave Happy Happy Two hundred episode. It's a big fucking deal two hundred. I'm really proud of you all the hard work and love that you put into dopey each week and Dan. I want to thank you for having me be a part of it. I really love being on the show and talking to you and I also also want to say for all your crazy cockamamie ideas. I think that one of your best ideas was that I should get sober because it wasn't my idea to to get sober. It was your idea that I should get over and thank you for that because it's been a beautiful beautiful gift and thanks to the dopey nation Dan and titles for Chris so she didn't say her name but that of course was dopey regular and great friend of mine the Great Aurora and Love hearing her on the show and I love that she's sober and she's so full of them vinegar and all that good stuff and I love that she credits her sobriety to me and she should know Auroras hardwork and I'm just happy she's on the show and here's another great friend of mine nine calling in Jimmy Hi. This is as old friend Jimmy wishing everyone a very merry Mary Christmas missing Chris but very excited for go ps two hundred episode and I know that dopey got me through a lot of cold dark Russian nice when I had knowing who speak English to and I'm incredibly proud of everything that Davis managed to do despite it all aw with being the dopey nation and ungrateful Sir all the W nation is doing to sustain strong donation. I'm looking forward art to the next two hundred and everything has to come all right much-loved af these tutorials Chris Dave. It's Lucy San Francisco calling to say Merry Christmas. I I miss you. I'm coming up on a year sobriety and I remember when Chris died. Ah I remember walking over the hill to go to my house on my way to score cocaine. GonNa meet someone at my house and I was thinking. What the fuck are you doing. What are you doing. Chris just died now. He's fucking hated cocaine to just you know he used it. As a drinking aid really stark like this is fucked up so I don't know he asked the ninth so the year if I make it God willing as they say but God down sobriety so fucking cool and it's crazy crazy. It's crazy to think Chris hard taste of it and then can gone. He has just putting putting things in perspective active. I just got done with this shitty. I stayed being sober on first dates can be a tough thing and I'm bartender under but so I just walked by talked by another bar in the city and I saw that there's a chick bartending there who I know sober and I was like just this little league flash of like fuck you okay okay. I can do this. We're doing it hiding in plain sight serving drinks yeah being sobers cool how this is rambling unless you Chris. Thanks for everything you do happy to be sober. Alongside you stay strong doodles Dave. They'll be nation happy two hundred episode man. You're kicking fucking ass above it but a hell of a ride bride. Keep up the good work man fucking hardware. We appreciate it. Keep it up her by. Stay safe love you all hey dave. It's rocks wishing you a happy. Dobie podcast episode number two hundred. Thanks for bringing the nation together. Give us each other to lift one another up and keep keep doing what you do when this Chris but he would have been so happy for this two hundred episode stay strong dopey nation fucking tools for Chris so that of course was Kevin and rocks from dopey twitter. One person who I'm knocking including this thing who I fucking never include is just in England just an incredible fucking three years sober today happy fucking Sobriety Justin but your voice mail is four and a half minutes. I listened to it. I loved it but it's just too long Sam. What do you think too long long. Just play it are you we on air. We're on air her. I mean I love him and he's great and it's a huge. momentum has sober life Justin. We ask for shorty bud what I know but I'm gonNA play it fucking. It's three years where two hours and thirty one minutes. I'm going to give him formation's. Fuck it all right. Let's celebrate the gas bag and we got Dave Nation Justin that manic rambling fucking idiot from the dope nation or twitter. I just wanted to say message into tell you what Dobie means to me. Degree means the world to me. It is possible when I because there's not many meetings around where on from out in the sticks excuse me. There's not many breath apologize. It just ran from the office to the car in the pissing down rain to make sure I can recall distancing across because I've been saying we're going to send a message across for we we are forever and a day and for what why then send one that tells day even when I was four dopamine to me stumbled across dopey bow chance because Harris whittles loophole Steph Stephanie with those companies focused nine was on an episode and I wasn't a big Fan I now come back dopey and then that was it also from on strike to absorb one and you listen those safe. Chris had passed the Suck Dick the RT RT lying upside was amazing and Brandon Novak. I think it was the second episode a magazine Bob Forrest. I fucking Dresner. The a show was just great elevates my mood now listen to on the way to work or no work from work at work in the evenings. The community is dopey. Nation is that means a lot to me as well because if someone can go and just just froze up people not literally share people. Just you know tarpaulin feeling. If we want to share something though wouldn't share it's more usual facebook page because people but yeah so it's coming into two minutes or but the hard to send something akin to apologize but again the hat since two hundred jobs out in charge of getting on is amazing also so one of them make official go to scam. We're all done have sky a Monday. My Mrs has this coming Monday. We're expecting another logo which is Huck stuck in the magazine and sharing of you because getting into the two hundred nine I wanna say his fucking amazing free regained Clayton. This Friday and Dopey has definitely helped with that in a massive way insurance talk consume though p overseers addict for like something crazy I obsess obsess obsess obsess and thank fuck are found because I wouldn't have met all the wonderful mizen people out there like Kaleen fucking Braun Alba Rox the colleen and everyone you know who you are fucking dopey nation unless graves account fucking link Vietnam so I'm going to shut off free minutes thirty seconds long but yet dogwood means a fucking world tomato and Chris is looking down. He's he's fucking pissed because what you've done with the podcast Davis phenomenon. You've fucking you've so you've done an amazing job and deserves to be the number. One podcast not just for recovery just in general because doping is for the people I know. Oh Yeah it's fucking amazing and keep it up because I don't know what do we now here. Thank you very much for doing thank you for meeting. Chris Universe for introducing you to fuck ups and thank you for staying clean and thank you pull thinking this amazing day of getting together and telling war stories because it is fucking dopey. It's also fucking amazing and I'm really swearing hiring on game. Passionate means a lot to me. It really does and it means a lot to everyone else and it's great to have have you you. There and I'm GONNA leave it here because I'm on them to notify. My book is so you stay stike strong and fucking totals were Chris. Thank you just in way too long but really beautiful from now on when I say keep it fucking thirty seconds not four minutes and thirty seconds time updates as you go but but the show is getting long before we go. I WANNA play a message from a real inspiration nation to me in terms of modern day social media recovery stuff. It's Tim from Dank recovery. I take his memes teams every week and is community is fucking amazing and I love that he's a part of Dopey to here's ten. I want you to think long and hard about what your life would be like. If there was no Dobie podcasts that's right. It'd be fucking terrible. This is Tim from Dank recovery just on here to give a shout out dave and Dobie two hundred episodes. It's fucking incredible man four years of sobriety. That's fucking amazing. Keep up the good work man. Thank you so much for letting me be a part of what you're doing recipe's to Chris and I can't wait to see what happens next man dopey nation this my again. I missed two guys. Call I love you. I just want to wish you a happier. America's must happy two hundred two hundred ms working with me. David Me Miss Working with him. I don't feel lonely so but I just went back to smoke hash if you find that has gone hazards so smoking all right so I think that's it for me with this fucking Christmas man long and hard fought Christmas anybody who sent something in that I didn't play I'm sorry send in a fucking voicemail. Send into submission for dopey con to Dopey podcast at gmail.com. I love you guys. I love what we've made. I love with me and Chris. I love that you guys are a part of it. There are so many people like that I think and I just WanNa thank as many people as I can right now. I want to thank Cormac doing read it. I WANNA thank Andrew Catherine Pauline Lia for doing facebook think Sam for everything he does. I WANNA thank Brad for coming up with the idea. I wanted Brad to be on this thing there. I want everyone to be in. This thing because dopey is such a big part of my life. I wanted to really honor so many parts of my life as Corny as that sounds and so thanks aloe. Thanks anybody that's part of this. You know fuck you just coffee for dropping us. I'M GONNA get fucking stump town. Get another chock-full nuts fuck it but before I also want to thank fucking Ryan who came up with the logo and you know all of Chris's Christmas people and anybody who's been on the show and everybody who's about the show and you know I it just it all means a ton to me before. Are we go. I want to end it with something. Chris said it's fucking incredibly sad so brace yourself. There's so many other Chris Clips. I wanted to play too but I wanted this to be a little of this a little of that little the other thing we have more Chris stuff for for next Christmas. I WANNA think Worcester for putting that shit together. I WanNa Jonathan fucking foul and Peralta for doing so many graphics a lot of graphics. I never even put up. Thanks what's her face. Kelly for our work. I WANNA thank Aaron for sick our work and everybody who sent in a voicemail. I want to thank you guys. I WanNa thank all the listeners just for being a part of the show it it means everything to me and here is a clip from Worcester. That's called. Chris is closing thoughts so before I play that final closing thought aww Chris the closing thought of Chris is all about it was after Dave Marshall Died Doug recorded what you're going to hear so it just makes me think of everybody buddy that we lost you know which is of course. Dave Marshall and it's Andrew the Hobo hippy and it's troy our first or second listener slash email and of course it's my dear friend and brother. Todd and it's anybody that you guys know that died your friends and your relatives and all these people dying you know the the worst thing is that they're gone but the best thing that they do is they carry the message so try to stay alive. I love you guys. stay strong dopey nation merry. Christmas happy two hundred episodes and of course fucking tools for Chris. The reality reality of the situation is that this is gonNA continually happen. People are GonNa keep dying because I feel like so. Many people die these deaths you know uh-huh and to know that they're remembered in some capacity. I just assuming you know what I mean. I don't have child and like you know until those passwords steered me but to know that they're remembered a year later two years later five years later. That's comforting on a different level. I it's weird for me two years later when something happened in my life randomly I'll remember them. It'd be like nothing's cool is happening in their life anymore. You know what I mean. I remember usually in tandem with like a positive event a milestone of some sort of like a development in my life what I'm saying girl for an apartment in in a job career prospects something like that happens and that's a good thing that I think of people I knew who passed away because of this disease. That's what I get sad. 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Big Candles: What Does It Mean?

The Trader Cobb Crypto Podcast

07:12 min | 9 months ago

Big Candles: What Does It Mean?

"Get everybody welcome to try to cope Crypto podcast and yeah yesterday night. PODCAST apologies for that. I I lost my voice again. I am a phone call possibly thought I'm not sure about that but Definitely we have good nothing booked in for the foreseeable future and it's a lot of work a lot of work such lost my voice again so yesterday I did not do a podcast just because I was arresting bay. You wouldn't have had to hear too much from. Oh may anyway because I was absolutely shattered. And like you've really count along a guy into Sydney second coast in city and some really great people people in. That's all thank you very much for you. Attendance and the markets are moving. We did find some good tries on weekend. Actually Grad examples that look that ended up running running very very well indeed because we have seen the market bounce back to die for those who are not away. Yesterday was down quite significant. Aim to Bitcoin is the Sunday Dak- yeah the Sunday. Candle down five and a half percent today bouncing back three point four six percent with an hour to go until the close interesting things that we have. Yeah Yep we're currently above seven thousand. It doesn't seem to acted as too much support or resistance to the absolutely honest with the not a great deal going on there at the mind. The shots starting to get big of the cats are the candles will start to get big if you've done any of courses if you've watched any of my country and especially eighty three two thousand seventeen unless cans. Were getting really big at the higher end. You'll know you'll know the weather's bigger candles often. We can see a bit of a pullback and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a pool by going for me. I hear. These are big and the pullback two thousand would be wonderful now a couple of levels gonNA get through I seven four three six that region they also port going back allied journ midway through the year this year. That seemed like just just a couple of days ago. Gee Shit went foss that she did. Not Yes I'm going back to that level we had support and it's broken down for that also puts into weekly downtrend now. We do have a low high and a low eloy looking quite side at the moment but of of course you got to remember to put things into perspective. Waste started the year about wants to law that but the close. Sorry sorry that is a four thousand dollar mark where now sitting at seven thousand two hundred still very very very strong. Move move from bitcoin throughout this year. Thus far A good year if you bought the starter certainly two thousand seventeen certainly not as bad as thousand nineteen nights eight but it hasn't been that bull run. A lot of people have wanted myself included to have been some fantastic opportunities threat that period of time. Now and I'll try to highlight could you. If you've been on some good tries we Obviously from about March much ibew really the start of if I pull through to the back end of June was really with those very very good monitoring by multiple getting Ninety to one hundred fifty fifty to one sixty two on talk try is that if you're risking how two dollars and you get a sixty one six thousand dollars with a hundred dollars of risk not putting six thousand down down hiding to get six thousand back talking about with risk management correct rules in place the H. So it's been a very good year. It's it's been a very good year for the market Continue to give something now. It's getting a little bit bigger as candles now. So it's very difficult to find good shows at the moment all longs for that matter no theory now house at seven. Oh so one hundred forty six I e two cents wants a guy very messy rotten cup of big candles coming in. The killing of this is the full dicing fairly a solid volatility. I would up. Were full percent right now on a theory and It's just been sort of pushing law that holding at the moment we got some support on. AOL's he also coming up around the toodle thirty withheld above that currently tools and fifty five cents pretty strong guy and a here across the top ten ails five percent up still living three the three percent up. It's a five point seven cents saints of hung out there for a big chunk of the last couple of months. We've had the old spot shop backed down that we held our ground except pay had a very large full Throughout the session has recovered just about all that From where the To Die Sorry over the last twenty four hours we were at one stage down nearly nine percent carly point three percent sitting at twenty two cents big candles on there as well lot coin we sing rotten currently forty six dollars and ten or eleven cents up four point two two percent still in a strong downtrend still in wake late downtrend but it is holding its grounds. The Tom Bang Bitcoin. Cash Toying with that two hundred ten Ndola mock. It is at two hundred ten dollars and seventy five cents up three point three percent and that weekly has taken itself. Josh only just a slightly into a downtrend wants a guy no continuation of that downturn. Of course the full from three hundred two hundred has been brutal has taken a couple of weeks ago side with that in mind is getting a little bit rough down bottom wants a guy the just four hour dilute timeframe starting to get a little bit messy not too interested bonnets rejecting the law of the dies which was about thirteen dollars ninety one cents. We sitting Currently sitting at fifteen delos. twenty-one it's at one point four nine percent drawn a back to where we were back in well September really were one point four cents up four point five nine percent and tell you what as Johnson Sangam quite recently recently. The last few months actually lost six months since the Warren Buffett Year will do lunch. No we went to lunch Since that period of time it really has become Just a tumbleweed. I haven't heard too much from that fellow. Not sure what's happened then. Three point six cents and we talk about Donna. It's three eight percent rotten down finally pretty looking child as well finally best they. It is all over the shop. Five point four three percent now hundred five dollars and fifty four cents. She's up she's down she's up. She's down the most volatile in the top. Ten is is. They have tried that. Because the shop at pumps and dumps and pumps and dumps and pumps then dumped is pretty ugly Full May as a try to get an entry show of fun because when it moves moves. Well I just got in a fawn mom and that is where we're at today on this wonderful choose day having a fantastic start to your day and if you need any more help juggles tried to call dot com. There are free courses. They get get on a free subscription service as well and You know one day I will get you on. A cruise guys have antagonistic. Hopefully tomorrow voice a little less Husky and a little bit more smooth Boffa now.

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Bitcoin Springs To Life

The Trader Cobb Crypto Podcast

07:01 min | 2 months ago

Bitcoin Springs To Life

"Tried to call crypto show talking business influx Jane. Gentlemen work into the Truck Co. Crypto podcast. You'll place to fond your daily dyson markets. Try To. That's been doing it for little while you've had a great it's bane. I good little period for market. So I've got to say now. What am I talking about their well? Hey We talked yesterday. Yep We talk most is good relationship we have. We talked yesterday about the need for trend reversal and the fact that four hours starting to show some signs that might occur. Of course we did see that. Go ahead last actually. Yesterday are not. Actually you know had that high on the four so we go to break out through nine thousand and nineteen. Well guess what we've of Nine Thousand City Ninety one seventy three right now and I'm feeling jazzy. Feeling good now. It doesn't mean we're Lewis doesn't mean went full definitely doesn't mean we broken through ten thousand but it does mean we can now start to look for more opportunities. More training opportunities. Little bit of good news can go a long way now. I GUY DOWN TO OUT ON WEDDING CRADLE TRADES. That sort of thing. I did get a filter today. I've got fill on God. Donna will I D I? The pitch on FTE. And if you don't have enough t x account you miss an out to all US going at ten percent off trading phase over on the page and you can see how to use the platforms. Go and do that. Just GonNa find try to call you. You Miss Me and Gallons suss that you'll see scans and bits and pieces types they go Ruin also of each out there on bitcoin. Now County down point four percent but will cover something seeming like that yesterday before about this time an hour said yesterday close full point one nine percent of very nice welcome higher the field beatty say if all of the two day Cannell The candle that time was twenty ice throughout the candle light bright. Yesterday's high and I was bullish candle Now I'm not suggesting that this was a trade. No no no no no no no. But that's another little tip box. Positively currently sitting north thousand one hundred seventy one and I'm happy about that The NAS to be sitting about ninety four hundred by this time tomorrow all Hundred all ten thousand seven hundred fifty two. Yes that theory fullish so up. Three point seven four percent out of the top. Ten of radio was a theory of and bitcoin pushed on the most. The two big dogs baying big dog dog and along trodden along and doing nothing. Happy Happy Today. Because our today there Point either Senate tournament six dollars and fifty eight. We did close to like forty. Two loss said very Saad wise looking at theory for the time being exile pay still underneath the twenty cent. Mark is a nineteen point. Six cents down point either yesterday up to point to a suicide. Bitcoin fulsome Theorem a three point. Six percent x up a two point two six yesterday. Bitcoin cash two point one five. They slotting down the scale. It did close up close at two hundred and fifty two dollars and ninety cents is now two thirty one forty five point six percent on base via hate had a cracker of full point seven five percent. But that's kind of expected from. Bs vade is the most volatile market. Not Talk Tennis. Absolutely no doubt about that wrought. Now we've got a daily candle. Bearish route there in the cradle sign Potentially even a option for short there on at twelve hour or even I am not close in fifty two minutes. Definitely Downtrend Day Good be NAS potential if the markets if it is to fool out the floor is the full if it was to occur than business. They could certainly be an awesome. Show the keeping an eye on that. We'll be in the next hour or so. Of course we all Donald say one point full full percent two hundred ninety six dollars and eleven cents Lot on the next on the list up three point seven percent down those yesterday. Of course closing forty three hundred ninety three cents currently sitting at forty three fifty four point six percent to day else was up two point six percent closing the Diet toodle fifty seven. It's still very much crab woke up. Just hobbling. Along Hobbling humbling. Humbling were down one percent Titles fifty four not much really to speak of their needs to get out of that little rock that it's in yesterday. One point six four percent on bonds one of the only two in the top ten that currently up it sitting at sixteen dollars forty seven that close sixteen dollars forty seven so its up point. Zero five percent Kaduna. Well yesterday was up to. Four percent has been the most bullish shot across the top ten for quite some time. The simple fact that daily trend was not broken. The rest of the market did see a bit of a slide really helped it's broken. Holland. It's moved. Well yes so. I two point four percent and today it's up point four over percent at five point. Five three cents just hanging around a love to see kick on a bit 'cause on long love to see Checking off the table. They're classic next analyst does resistance up six one was yesterday if the daily Chart Right now. I've got to be honest. There's not going on until he breaks six dollars. Ninety one. It's pretty slow. Yesterday was up one percent. Today'S PRETTY SLOW. Down Point Idaho percent we sending candidates six dollars and seventy two cents and it is relatively boring tron. Yesterday it was up. You Little Ripa Point Nine. Currently with flat we close at one point. Four seven cents. And that's where we sit right. Now go out. It's happening markets. Moving there was a little bit more flavor in that country at the moment. I'm hopeful to say these market. Push on the highs unloved. Say That happened. It would be wonderful to see a really nice trend. Come back because when we get good trends we get opportunity and when we got opportunity we stick to a rules. Tend to be pretty well. We just need to trends the Stein. Come back you have a Riba of a day or evening. Whatever it is way you are. You take care of yourself you take care of yourself. You have the best time tried. Well tried smart weapon. Your cats up gutted cross to the try to cope facebook page. Sorry Youtube page. And let's get you moving forward. Have a great evening Baath now.

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Keeping Inside The Alt's

The Trader Cobb Crypto Podcast

06:58 min | 8 months ago

Keeping Inside The Alt's

"This episode of the traffic of Crypto podcast is proudly sponsored by Zip Mex- ZIP mixes an Australian exchange hitting all over the globe with some fantastic functions and features a the head of the ZIP Max Dot Com. Do and check them out. TRY TO COBB CRYPTO show talking business influx Jane Welcome to the PODCAST. What a weekend don't had all? My goodness may two days with no partner two days with my kids two days of birthdays and different celebrations. And I am ready for Monday. I tell you what it feels like a good break from at all but Good weekend didn't look at a shot at all. which makes it even better just gives me that NAS refreshing feel for the market? When I get back I'll just had a quick look through my watch watchlist over the weekend and having a NAS moves actually watching carbon network Back into loss waking matic as well it's been grinding. Don't move hard but it has been continuing to grow in the opportunity. Really that I mean there. There was keeping a close eye on but it didn't end up coming linked to fruition a now little divergence fetch has moved your beautiful wealth of fifty percent on the daily with the bullish candle cradles on. We've got some some really really Pullbacks going on as well And right now has to be said T's also released killing it Continuing on with that really nice. Run that we've been saying for quite some some time now and looking really really good having breaking a level of resistance Triple zero one night. looking very very nice indeed numbness looking for pullbacks they. They was in fact a pullback it was on fraud I not at eleven sorry the actual Kano closed at one. I am so those night while I was going to get that anyway for those in northern hemisphere yet. You probably could've got that in you. Did I absolutely Stella move wrought. What's going on in the Will let me just speak to the facts. Wchs as I usually do based on my understanding and use of price action but right now those of you who recall speak L.. Listening last week when I sort look we. We've got two options. Wants to break above the high of seventy nine thirty three and the other's continue to move lauren. Push to a new low eloy. We saw that ten show highlight coming in yesterday dioxide last week I'm still potential. Still they is still not considered high low as we haven't got a higher high just yet but we are saying the bill oh buoyancy About seven thousand this time around and what I do like about would sing right here is if we would break up through seventy nine thirty three. It's a Aquatic conceited pullback. You know it's not just a quick spoke to died. It's pretty much a full week of pulling back to a low soifer so far. Seventy one twenty nine so it is considered pool back. It's not a brash rash crash that went wilder We do say okay the tongue we are seeing some momentum still yet to save we can break out through that seventy nine thirty three level on the bit fix chop but look at the end of the day. I will be keeping an eye on that and do we'll see some really nice moves. Wants the guy in. The sites are in in the mockup to build sets to build ourselves more bitcoin. And that's where I'll be focusing more attention mentioned in between recording content. What am I doing what we're doing exactly well? I'm recording the cost again As I said from the feedback that I've been given from clients it's listening to clients and people at sort of that We are giving it a revamp of comeback from travels of comeback from a national and we are now focusing way. I mean may focusing on getting this recorded in a shorter period of time one coast that wanted the individual courses any longer it will be the bronze and above that will will be it. So if you are on the law if you only put one or two courses probably best to get in contact with the team just by jumping on the website the chat function there if you do an upgrade because yeah we'll be upgrading to Lebron's Iron Lisa there won't be repetitive nights. Urine that costs too much and it's a big job goes. It's a big jump so I will be keeping on the market as we'll go to scan to do precisely minutes but I'll also the in there working away now because seventy five eighty seven. Its up point six of eight percent pretty a quad Sunday tried as a matter of fact the weekend to try wolves quiet as it often can be. We got theorem at one fifty one six two point five percent right now as well Just ticking a long episode slowly. AOL's toodle seventy seven point two two percent old as by the way creating. Hi Lo's apart from Stella Point Five faubus sitting at five and a half cents accepted at twenty two doll- dollars wouldn't have off at twenty two cents and I'm saying here on X.. Up as it. It's actually let's except that higher to break up to new option twenty three full. It's hit hard twenty three three very close to reversing into an uptrend here here on the daily here annex. Pay Quite interesting because I'm on the Bitcoin shop and they talk to a little bit of support there and it looks like it's trying to hold hold that support bounce from this one point five two percent on X. up a lot quin forty forty one percent bitcoin cash to fifteen at one point two six percent very saw his market that a bond very much the same creeping crawling sideways ever so slightly fifteen dollars and sixty three cents up point. One eight the percents. China's one point four cents up up half a percent cod. Donna is sitting at point. Four percent up at three point eight cents and a guy in a very slow grind on Katana Donna abyss via has had a pretty decent decline last week in the early days of Las Vegas now recovered a little bit but ever slowly and slightly were ninety seven dollars. Forty forty seven with one hundred dollars ahead of us. Obviously a little bit of psychology so eric psychological barriers ahead for the one point three nine percent so I was the other interesting wig leading into the market. Will we see some strong bullishness leading into Christmas. Well at the moment it's only a hybrid of prayer that we've got because there's nothing else above that really suggesting gestures anything We vote. We'll continue to watch this market. Keep a very close on trade. What we know what we think? I'M GONNA keep Focus Time Bang on trading routes like you guys and also getting his coolest content enjoy the joyous period. That is for many of you time to go have your lunches Christmas parties whilst I slave away here in the office office fantastic. Dago is I'll speak to you again tomorrow. Cheese bothell now I look a hug. You enjoyed this episode. I'd like to thank our sponsor moby pay make this interview possible so however to Murphy Pay Dot Com. Check them out. That's M. O.. B. E. P. A. Y. DOT I.

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This Week In Crypto

The Trader Cobb Crypto Podcast

07:21 min | 3 months ago

This Week In Crypto

"This episode is proudly sponsored by CRYPT DOT COM on. Give you another reason to go and get the APP in the APP store on your pay. Say CRYPTO DOT COM has got themselves and exchange and on the twelfth of my going to give you fifty percent off bitcoin processing up to a one million dollar allocation. That's how much putting aside at fifty percent off so gonna get the up and get yourself some fifty percents off. Bitcoin get everybody. Welcome to the Technical Kutai podcast and I am back with a noble Craig called Voice Yes Sir Knock down pretty heavily by some sort of viral type sore throat headache. He taught thing no no. I know what you're thinking and it'll pick not on twenty four hour bug. Add this morning I wake up. Still wasn't feeling gripe but as the day has progressed. Felt better and better and I'll tell you what it's nice to feel. Good a game because It absolutely full healthy as well have you. I will the markets have come grainy gyn and we're about to talk about that one thing. I want to to you. I in full my says this if your sitting on the fence about doing our causes today's the died The reason today's days because it's the last day of forty to fifty percent off. If you're already a client then you can still get massive savings law trading full. That's fifty percent off on your annual subscription. You'll also get a discount on the monthly. So get in there if you have not done the causes before while it's forty percent off. Lebron's package that caused affiliate boots get involved and let's get you through that full trading costs so you get yourself to position where you know what you're doing any like the top ten right now well. Jeez I'm knocking is a tricky little. It was down yesterday so it was up yesterday but it came off towards the close bitcoin. Market Minute is holding. It didn't pull back very deep. It just continues to grind along and what we've got right now is a bitcoin cross above. Nine thousand Gyn. We're not thousand. Three hundred and seven dollars up one point seven four percent on the Diet and look if we can clear the old high of this. Most recent trend gets above ninety four seventy nine. We'll have a pretty good looking mark in the moving average. Have called up so in over extended anymore offs. That very big I think fourteen percent die. We had about a waco so ago and we are really in a position where I'm hoping to save further upside of Bitcoin. Still waiting for good tried to sit up of looked in the prophets of loss. Wake and haven't had anything at all so far this week so we'll have to wait and see what comes of. This won't percent right now on big glint. We are off. And he's office looking market hopefully break to new highs on the high on the lower timeframes so we can get some goods exclusively for good trades on a theory of now. Yesterday is actually down down significantly three percent down as well. They are down down down yesterday. It touched tests that one ninety four thirty five level we'll go close to that anyway And Today Nostril Bullish Candle wrought there in that crowd was so far out three point two eight percent we sitting about two hundred to I. Five eighty and look the the best looking shot. Hey back in. That cradles is not so good on the lower timeframes except as it twenty one point five cents one nine percent right now. Signed thing is a theory sitting in that cradles. I'm beautifully well holding above twenty cents. Which was the level that was resistance for quite some and we pushed through that now loss wake of course and Yeah just taking a long. It is up one point nine percent as I said Malta God. Bitcoin cash is very solid wise yesterday. Well yesterday I was down two point. Two percent bit regarding quantum Donuts yesterday's well really pushing up to that. Seventy sorry sixty seven percent mark. That's why we say. Bitcoin was often. The rest of the market. Will more or less was Dan. Bitcoin cash sitting to forty five five five. Now at one point five percent for the David on that daily. Saudi certainly certainly not as Nice as some of the other shots like theory on the daily Bitcoin s was down two point nine percent in the clothes. And it's up one point I e percent wrought now sitting at two hundred five dollars and sixty four another one that does look very similar matter of fact bitcoin cash and Bitcoin. They look very similar on their shots. That will noisome table but a chocolate shop. Lot Coin Right now. Forty six and seven cents up three point three three percent. It's got a little bullish candle in that cradles. I'm a little lower haw that snuck in about a week ago five days ago. Which is going to ninety mega a little less attractive for those criminal trials on those daily timeframe but it is up two point three percent right now looking quite good swell else is still below that resistance. A toodle eighty one cents. That being said yes. I did close down full percent. One of the lodge declines day. What up two point. Two two percent right now. Two dollars and seventy two cents. Pretty Likely Looking Jonathan. Moss bonds has crept into that cradles on it is a beautiful little bearish candle rotten Speak to you is being quiet for vonts over. The last couple of weeks short has been grinding higher but just grinding. We haven't seen any big pushes what we have on site because some of the other coins out there. It's at sixteen dollars and fifty one cents right now. Point either percent a guy in a bit of a groin and to also yesterday closed down. Two point eight two percent cod. Donald held its grand holding above that full point. Five nine cent mock and Holding Holding Holdings Mobile is candle today so fired. Yesterday we would dammit. I only point. Non of a percent rotten was sitting right percents exactly up two point seven percent a theory in class. They got a bit of a full yesterday as well. It was down five percent. One of the lodge declines it has been one of them will volatile in this market recently. Quit simply because well. It's run up hod and it's pulling back as willing to that cradles daily chart rotten looking very often seven dollars and one cent were up two point five four percent on the day at this moment and the rand at that top ten. We're GONNA HIT TRON. It's been holding in that consolidation patent for quite some time yesterday again. We we were down two point one percent today right now at fifteen point nine cents up two point six seven percent so world of grain out there at the moment viable force old time will tell if we get good training opportunities. Scifi DART have a great deal on my writer. Obviously the white for the These these charts to play. Add a little bit. I get a little bit better. Simplicity on those lower timeframe can start to attack those electrode into low time France but only when all the trends in agreement just increases probability of success. And that's all that I can never do. Gaza of a fantastic dine again. If you haven't taken advantage of the style get across the traffic cop dot com slash. Joined to see exactly what you can take advantage of today your loss to get forty percent off all my courses and trading strategy have a fantastic day speech tomorrow. Boffa now. This episode is proudly sponsored by CRYPTO DOT COM. Get another reason to go and get the APP in the APP store or on your pay. Say Cook the Dot Com has got themselves and exchange and on the twelfth of my. They're going to give you fifty percents off. Bitcoin pricing up to a one million dollar allocation. 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