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Tony Romo breaks the bank

Sports Media with Richard Deitsch

35:36 min | 5 months ago

Tony Romo breaks the bank

"Gentlemen Gentlemen Got Everybody Richard. I'm welcome the sports media. Podcast my producers Patrick Antonetti. The guests this week is the guest last week. Now this is not because we can get guest and it's not because of this person has Beg Me to come on this. Low rated show is because massive sports media news broke and I thought it would be smart to bring back. Sports Media Daily Media Writer John O. Rien who is a frequent guest on this podcast? I think everyone knows the major sports media news of the week. Tony Romo has resigned with. Cbs as reported by the New York. Post and John Rand That Dollar figure is Around seventeen million. I think twenty seven of us who have since confirmed the dollar figure. Romo will be staying with. Cbs long-term The deal is minimum five years with a lot of contract provisions. That can extend it well beyond that. It is a monster sort of signature. Move in the sports media and that is why we bring on John Rand back and better than ever on the sports media. Podcast John Welcome back. This is a record I think. And you know what's going to happen? Inevitably is on the ITUNES comments section. I'm just GonNa get one star you suck. You can't get different guests. Why am I listening to this? But that has nothing to do with John. That's all on me All right listen. Both of us have Now written I think pretty extensively on Tony Romo. I worked all weekend on a piece talked to a lot of people including his producer. And so there's a lot to There's a lot to chew on here John and so let's start here both of us. I think we're very steadfast in writing and I remember you wrote a column not too long ago basically headline why Tony Romo will stay at CBS. The the Romo staying at CBS. I don't think surprised either of us. I think we were on the record for a long time that it would happen but I would imagine John. Given the dollar figure given the length of the contract. Some stuff surprised you. So let's just sort of do top line What was your reaction when you heard the news that he was resigning just like here. The reaction was that it was what I expected. And then the heard about the money and blew me away and I realized that one of the reasons that we were predicting that Tony Romo is gonNA resign with. Cbs was coming through Romo. It was where he was comfortable. He's comfortable with Nancy's comfortable with a production truck he worked well with Tracy Wolfson. What what I what took away from that. Signing is he wasn't. Cbs wasn't going to let him leave. I like we. We should have been looking at it more from the CBS point of view. Cb CBS had the right to match ESPN and unless ESPN IS GONNA Offer Tony. Romo fifty million dollars by CBS was keeping him no matter what and and And the ninety eight ninety five percent that we had him saying. Cbs that should have been one hundred percents. He has was not gonNa let it go so all right. So a couple things on this You know the headline obviously is going to be the salary and the years and we'll get to that in a little bit but let's sort of take this from a couple of different angles. Let's take it first from the CBS side. Which is where you went here and the the the the case that CBS makes. I think it's certainly a legit one is. This is our most important asset. Nfl football and the Sunday afternoon. Show for twenty five. You know far and away the most important thing that we have in our new company. Cbs VIACOM NFL. Rights are coming up. We have to be a player for not a player. Our company is in significant trouble. We spend already a billion dollars on the NFL. And that's going to go up. Dramatically we spend one hundred million dollars on production costs for the NFL. And you know when we have a super bowl year. It's twenty five million thirty million dollars to put the Games on. I think John when you sort of look at that kind of math and those numbers if you're CBS. Yeah you don't WANNA pay seventeen million. You don't WanNa blow up your salary structure but at the end of the day seventy million dollars for your most important product is a rounding error and so I think at a certain point this is just my read into this if they were going to go pass where they have ever gone before then I think there probably was no limit to the money and I think ultimately like you just said they were GonNa get. Romo no matter. What do you agree with sort of that line of thinking? Yeah and I'll I'll add to that the fact that the NFL writer currently being renegotiated. I feel that. Cbs wanted to send a message to the NFL. It wanted to send a message to the re to its competitors Around the league that it is serious and it's willing to spend a lot of money to keep its package and and to a a stay stay in the NFL business In a couple of years when when those rights come up I said you know given the fact that you know Viacom and CBS have merged there's some questions about you know the size of Viacom compared to Disney or or or comcast owns NBC If they had lost Tony Romo if they had lost if they had allowed probably their highest profile. Talent to be be poached. You know. There's a potential that that it would send a signal of weakness in the market which is not where you wanna be optically going into a Going into a rights deal And so I think that they prefer. Cbs It was you know they could afford it. And they were not gonNa let this go and they just wanted to send the message that they're strong. They have plenty of money and they're they're they're they WANNA stay with the NFL. Totally agree with you. Well said all right. Let's here's the other two sides of WanNa take take it from the Rome. Assad and then I want to take it from the ESPN side if you're the camp and this was negotiated by a Tom. Young RJ Gassner of CA. Who I would assume at this point Can by everybody at CA dinner for the next twenty. Three years You you are thinking here. We have a we. We're never gonNA have more leverage because as you just pointed out Romo is so important to. Cbs In terms of sending a message to the marketplace sending a message in the NFL most importantly the optics of not losing your number one person so they know they have leveraged their they also must know John Either directly or indirectly that ESPN will be significantly interested in Romo You. It doesn't take a genius to know that. Espn is is not satisfied with its current announcing team. There's been negative press now for twenty four months Espn is very reactionary. When it comes to the stuff they usually I would say over. Listen to the to the twitter world and stuff like that so you know that they're looking to make a change and they know that Romo is coming Potentially to market if he gets past the Thirty Day exclusive exclusive negotiating window for CBS. So if you're the Romo Camp John you're basically I think just calculating like we're going as high as we possibly could go. We're probably back channeling. Espn see how high they might go. And then at the end of the day. It's really client in this case. Tony make an incision on you now. What what what. Money will satisfy me to stay. Cbs versus what crazy. Money will prompt me to go to. Espn word be a whole new place. Do you buy that. Is THEIR CALCULUS? Here Yeah and in fact it went so long. I'm not entirely certain why they waited or why they didn't wait to entertain a direct offer from espn to see what You know where yes. Pin was I they waited so long to do this. I don't know why they didn't wait a another couple of weeks to do it But as you and I have said for months Romo's comfortable with Nancy's comfortable with the CBS and he just wanted to get CPS to a to a price that even the highest numbers that we were floating out there But before here and I think I the highest I saw one up to like fourteen million you know and then this is seventeen million dollars. It's you know it. Cbs pay it up. And I. It looks like Run out were Romo in his agents a reward about S- okay so now let's look at ESPN side and that's a very good question. If you're going to go that deep into February you know why not. Why not go a couple extra days unless and I don't know this obviously unless Tony as the client said listen. I at the end of the day. I WANNA stay here. Let's not make it to open market. I don't I don't want this to continue impact. Richard you and I were just last week. We were on the podcast and we were just talking about this exactly and it was like we. We we said the longer this goes on the worth is for. Cbs and we were going from one hundred ninety five percent that he's GonNa resign with ESPN just because it was taking this long so with another couple of weeks right right exactly so let's get to the ESPN point. This is this is one where you're reporting me. Say something different than mine. Or maybe we're in sync here put this here. Espn sources indicated that they would never get to the number that CBS paid. That seventy million was crazy number crazy money and whatever you're seeing in the sort of reports about espn going higher. That's not the case. Here's how I look at this. John Undoubtedly Jimmy. Petar has tried to shed salary over the last twelve to twenty four months. I mean just look at everybody whose left there Plus the Bomani Jones Pablo Tori Show being cancelled and they're gonNA resign or try to resign those guys if they do much less money you talked to. I talked to a lot of talent. I'm sure you do too. They've all said that that. Espn is trying to bring salaries down. And they believe they're getting much less than they would have a couple of years ago now. All that said John. I don't believe it I do simply do not believe that. Espn if Tony Romo got to the open market they would not pay more than what CBS does. It would change the entire Calculus football it would signal to the NFL that they are massively serious about being part of the Super Bowl rotation obviously I know you still have to pay the billions of dollars for it but that that what what would twenty million dollars to. Espn mean for a company that pays hundreds of millions of dollars for rights packages. So I look at John. As if somehow Romo got to the open market he would have my opinion being able to name his price for CBS. For ESPN and they would have matched. I do not believe for a second that he wouldn't have got that money. How do you feel about that one in reporting that stuff Richard? I've never known somebody to lose a bit more to say like. Oh we would have paid. You know that that much. I mean it's always we would. We would have never gone that. I I I don't know I the. Espn did not put in a formal offer. We know that in ever got to the point where where where the they even could and you and I have both been sourced Through ESPN and saying that they were not GonNa offer twenty twenty million And they weren't working to go that high various sources. You know dispute that. Nobody's on the record about that. I don't really have an opinion one way or another about you. Know whether they would or wouldn't I do know that SORTA ESPN's Open coveting of Tony Romo and creating this bidding war which is really unique among on air talent has rubbed You know more than just. Cbs over the wrong way. It's it's been sort of noticed by some of the other networks and it's you know it. Their talent negotiations among networks historically has been sort of like you know a gentleman's agreement you know they're very sort of and this turned it into a very You know a player agent type type of type of deal where you just sort of like you have thirty teams and you go and you're trying to find the highest bidder and I think You know a lot of people in the in the business have a raised eyebrow about About one that work really driving up the cost for for other networks. So what so openly? A good point. Here's my last thing on this and and and again I I'll I'LL BE I. I would like you to respond to it just to get your thinking. The the the notion again i. I'm not saying anybody is specifically lying to me when they were sourcing. I just think when the calculus changes when the guys like literally available for you to get like. It's easy to say you wouldn't pay but the second Tony Romo is an actual free agent. And he meets with you and you get excited. The world changes. So here's all I would have to say John IF ESPN is willing to pay. Mike Greenberg six million bucks and I understand. This is John Skipper and if he SPN's willing to pay Stephen Smith whatever five six seven million dollars or we're actually take that back. I'm wrong about the Sea Bass Stephen a Smith ten million dollars. Whatever new contract is is Tony? Romo front a product in Monday night football that gets twelve or thirteen million more viewers than get up. So how on Earth if you'RE ESPN. Would you not think about pushing those dollar figures when you're already paying somebody six million dollars? I mean what is another eleven million per year at that point for what is far and away your most important property. I just that's where I I think people at. Espn or not being honest. Because the the impact of Monday night football to get twenty Romo would be so exponentially profound because I think it would put you in a different stratosphere with the NFL it could change your entire NFL portfolio. If you end up getting a super bowl or if you end up getting better post-season Games. So that's that's the only reason why I sort of shake my head on this and think to myself you can say this is not a free agent but once you actually have the chance to get the guy who has foreign away the most prominent NFL analyst John Madden. I don't I don't know how you wouldn't just pay whatever that money is giving you you pay so much money elsewhere. You know Richard about twenty years ago. I was covering the cable industry and I went to a press conference at the Federal Communications Commission. Because they're getting ready to auction off a bunch of new spectrum and and Commissions said that they were going to get so much more money than anybody in industry believed and to sort of explain what was happening. You know during this press conference of the guy held up a hundred dollar bill. And he said he's going to auction off among the reporters that one hundred dollars bill and it started like fifty. They quickly went up to ninety eventually. Went to ninety nine dollars ninety nine cents and then somebody was just like they wanted to win so somebody bid hundred and two dollars and they did hundred five dollars. And and that's the whole point is like the COMP. I'll never forget that either the competition to win when you're bidding even if it doesn't make that much Make any sense is as real and so I think if if Tony Romo were to get on the open market and if. Espn thought that they had a legitimate shot. I'm sure I could see that. I could see that going up a whole lot more. It's a great story I love that. Are you hit on something? That's really interesting to me that I tried to hit on in my Piece athletic published. Today we're taking this on Monday morning and that was like what is the impact on the marketplace so I talked to a number of agents who John Not surprisingly were more pushing that this is going to change the marketplace and that works networks can't necessarily Cry Cry Proverty. I talked to some management people. Though did think that it would. It would have an impact so let me ask you this because this is really a twofold question one. What what kind of impact do you think Romo has now on the market for? Nfl analyst and sort of part two is is that impact only for the Aikman level collins worth level or could Romo's numbers float down to make like the number five nfl analyst on some network. You know make much more money now because there's now a ceiling that's been set by Tony. Romo my opinion is that if there is any kind of knock on effect. It's only for the level talent and that's V at the number. Five guy. Fawkes might even find his money Go down or rather the guy did. Cbs might find his money. Go down because it's all being committed Toronto but unlike a lot of the agents I don't I think this is an aberration. I think that The the the way for salaries to continue to go up you need to have somebody bidding for those services and for Tony. Romo it just so happened that ESPN went through like you said two straight years of having. It's a Monday night football. Just kinda pilloried. On Line They needed to get better They wanted to get better sort of like a perfect storm for Tony Romo when Chris Collins Worth when his Contract COMES UP. You know will there be another bitter where he could actually walk away from From NBC to take that bit. I suggest probably not almost certainly not and and I just don't see I don't see I think Troy Aikman and Chris Collins worth will agitate for more money or there rather their their agents Klochkova agitate for more money and they get a little bit of a bounce here but the Tony. Romo's an aberration. He caught the perfect storm on this. Yeah I tend agree with you. I think The the issue let's say collins worth or Aikman You know assuming those two guys want to continue on and the businesses. There's not going to be I I don't think they're gonNA come up at the time where there's this kind of Storyline for ESPN. I mean presumably. Espn is going to find an analyst in the next couple of months. Whether it'll be you know breaking the Bank. On their dream guy would be paid. Manning hasn't shown yet that he has any interest in that you know whether they get somebody else you know there's GonNa be somebody there like so your point is we'll take him. I will say Richard Fox just had the super bowl if troy aikman got hit by a bus and couldn't do the the the the Super Bowl for Fox. Who would they have turned to the? I don't believe that they have anybody else on their roster who is a quote Unquote Super Bowl level type analyst and in fact. I think that that he level analysts we mentioned like Aikman Collins Worth Romo. You can't go a whole lot deeper than that right now there are. There's a lot of other people with potential group res Or You know you mentioned peyton manning as well but but right now it's a very short bench where for NFL analyst. I think yeah I do. The one thing on that John is I always think that is a little overrated In that You know like I. I'm of the belief that you don't necessarily need the biggest name out there. Like Kurt Warner was certainly capable of being an analyst. I think Louis Riddick is I like Charles Davis I you know I. I don't think Fox GonNa push him to number one but he would. He would certainly do a fine job as their top malls. But I know what you're saying that the reality of the NFL networks is that top analysts as a general rule not only has to be really really good but there is a star component to that so to take your question. I think we'll probably be looking at whoever. The next iteration is coming off the field. You know like drew brees strikes me as You know a very very good candidate for that. I Know Fox is really High Greg Olsen but you know I don't think Greg Olsen is is is his he'd be a couple years minimum away from you know maybe having a shot at that number one and again remember how unique it was for Tony. Romo to come out of playing and take over the number one and was role. That's never happened. Books Troy Aikman went over to Europe. You Know Pe- people get seasoned before they get better role. I mean th th Tony. Romo was a complete anomaly in terms of that right and actually Even one of the agents who I spoke to pointed out to me that had. Cbs been in a better position with their number two analysts. You Know Right. Now it's fouts You know like someone who is sort of like could be quote unquote heir apparent in. Romo has far less leverage. But they don't have that so you know. Cbs really doesn't have a number one analyst. down the road on its roster. I know they're high on March led excetera. But that's just the reality is they're not gonna put the person They wouldn't have put that person. I don't think in the number one Slot next to Nancy. It's a good question. Joe should play a little fantasy. Football here had Romo left and gone. Espn what do you think? Cbs would have done I think. Cbs would would have camped outside of Peyton Manning's apartment Try Try to convince him To come on board. I think there's a potential I know. Everybody loves drew brees. I think there's potential that they could you know at the kind of money they're talking about to to really kinda convince him to Retire I know he said that he's GonNa play again. But you know as for seventeen million. You know you can do a lot. Not that he would have gotten that But I think there are a lot of options. I don't think that there's one certain plant be which is exactly where he. Spn is right now. I think there's no certain plant be about you. Know How they're going to move forward. Yeah love that you think they meant. He has an apartment as opposed to imagine The Y- There is no plan. B Right now for ESPN. There's there hopefully. We'LL BE PLAN C or D. Although again I will continue to sort of say. I think that they there are people who would be really good Monday night. Football annals including Kurt Warner and Louis Riddick who have Louis Riddick has always been. The Guy Thought would be great at that job but You know there have some decisions to make like in one of the decisions do you sort of roll with. Tessa torn McFarland for another year. If you cannot find that person who really think is going to bring you into the into the new. You know sort of new universe of meteorites deal so they have They got their work cut out for them now. John Neck of the SPN showing the same thing that Fox That that CBS. They need to send a message to the NFL. That you know. They're serious about improving the quality from the truck through the booth of their Monday night. Football which is you know. But they have a an an audience of a couple of hundred. How many ever in NFL OFFICERS? You know that they that they need to convince on that John. You know this you may not but I think our audience would be curious about this. Like how much do you think the? Nfl is involved in like Romo negotiations. When I say involved when do you think? Cbs SORTA GIVES THE NFL. Heads up that they that they have the resign. I don't think Sean McManus David Burner. You know talking to Howard cats and Roger Goodell on a day to day basis. But you know they're they're they're uh they're these hires have an eye towards the NFL offices because they want the NFL to be impressed by them. So do you think the NFL is the NFL's given a heads up at all? Do you think the NFL finds out when we find out I'm pretty certain the NFL how did get the job. I'm pretty certain when when they go through. I'm pretty certain that when they met with the NFL About back in Miami. They announced their intention. You know we have a right to match and we're going to match you know so. I I think that you know I if you talk to anybody at the NFL offices. I think that they were wholly unsurprised by by what was going on. I don't think that they they. I don't think they gave their opinion on whether they should should match. I don't think that they were actually cheering for for one or the other. I just think like you know. They're they're an important partner and they're they're somebody that you know as an important partner somebody that networks sort of clue in on this giant given that the The the news on this broke on February twenty eighth and from everything I understand. That's literally when the contract sort of was done News News broke basically the same day. All this went down. That's a lot of people start talking. That's usually when these leaks happen. But isn't it. I don't Know John? Wouldn't you love to sort of really know the inside story especially from like the? Romo camp of what was being thought. Twenty twenty five twenty six twenty seven because like as we just said earlier you are just a couple of days away from formerly being able to negotiate with ESPN. And I would love to know the sit down with C. A. and and Romo and like how close they really were too not signing if only to see what. Espn would formerly offer. You know those that must last week must have certainly was. I'm sure it crazy we for CBS. But it really must have been a crazy week for the Romo camp. Yeah we've known the number since Friday so you know we're kind of glossing over at a seventeen million dollars for NFL. Analyst is a huge amount of money. You know more than double the you know what? Madden made and that which which was the highest ever. I mean so it's. Cbs came with an offer. And the bid that you know sure maybe. Espn might have eclipsed but it was a it was like a big offer and a huge statement of. Hey we really want you know as I you know I. I don't know the inside story of that yet. I'm hoping to find it out but I I do think that like you know that did that. Cbs made when I first heard how much money it was. I think literally my jaw dropped. I think I think I was not expecting it to go. That high and Just a massive deal last one from me John. Don't let you get out of here. We had a lot of good feedback from our podcast. Last week. About High noon and the cancellation of that show. And what it might mean for those two Co-hosts heading forward. This is something John. I always notice John. You know how much I love talking about. Power relations on this podcast. I know you do too So this is this is our shot for. I can't wait. Yeah this is. I mean literally we do this part of the podcasters for thirteen people so what? I have historically noticed. Espn and I think you must have noticed this too is whenever there is either a cancellation but more than that like somebody leaving the network right. Like sort of what would be the optic of somebody opting to leave. Espn which has historically been a destination place. They always or at least lately in the last two or three years they announced re signings and certainly a flurry of them I always feel like to try. To mitigate that new cycle never mitigates the news cycle. But it's interesting. So in the midst of the high noon Cancellation Lock Land. Let it be known that has storm and resigned Ryan. Smith had resigned. Am I missing? One from last week might be another. Espn I grenier. One has storm besides Ryan Smith outside the lines recent but have you noticed that as well John that like to whenever there's a sort of a talent talent news that is not optimal for ESPN. We get a flurry of of press releases out of the crystal. Plocka compound that that that indicates that people want to stay at ESPN and and there's like to stay heading forward Ridge. I would make the world's worst. Pr Person So it makes me well qualified to comment on PR. I think that it it it. It seems to me strategy that they decided 'cause remember when Fox Sports One was taking you know Colin Coward went and I I think that would like go straight from From ESPN. I forget but a bunch of yeah. I think there was a little bit of time between him signing. But Yeah but coward definitely and then bayless was obviously a big one to imperialist to and they're just appeared to be this like you know. Espn couldn't their talent. And I know that it frustrated a lot of people inside. Espn can't keep our talent refine like five people day you know. They have hundreds of people on on air and so there was a the It was a conscious decision. Because I you know we're going to start to go out with these with these releases when we just resigned people and I it. Just show that you know. We're not retrenching we're building and people are saying and they're sticking around despite the competition it seems to me to be somewhat smart I don't know if there's totally killed that narrative that they're trying to kill but it but it seems to be a you know not a bad decision to make and You know Mike Celtics and others at ESPN PR will say that we never used to do that. So it's not like it's been a sort of a long tradition but yes I think and again I think on its face. It probably is a smart strategy. I mean I think if you look a little bit behind it it's it's a little transparent what they're doing but You wonder if as much for anything else if it's done internally John to like signal to the people who are inside. Espn that You know we are committed to you. We do WANNA sign you. Long-term and and that there are people who are happy to work. I almost wonder if a lot of times that that's as much about internal PR's it is about exner healthier. Oh of course it is. I think it's much more internal and I think it's more internal even beyond a On Air talent internal. I think it's just for the rank and file to say like. Don't worry we're we're we're as strong company that That that is capable of keeping people and is keeping people so I I think it just goes to to The the entire of Bristol the universe not just not just the on air talent it by the way John. It's amazing that ever since Adnan virk left has just been no leaks out of ESPN. Especially in baseball I mean how. How is that happened? I mean literally. I haven't seen any story about baseball printed in any publication in the last four minutes. All Right Anyway John. That's my little John. There's no chance I'll beginning anymore. Espn talent on this podcast. Let's just going to be meeting you now. Every week. John Rand and Richard. Die On the on the PODCAST What else is it? Not that I stayed quiet during that drought. I mean no one has No one has benefited more on the coffee market than John Over and Scoop Day. With with almond milk and milk. All right anyway John John. You're very kind to come on this podcast today because when you came on last week in two I know you did one with your boss The Great Abe. Who who's who seems like it'd be an awesome gotta work for and Condolences I know. He lost his father not too long ago. Gabes great guy and I certainly pass on my best to him But is there anything else? You want to add here. I think we are probably smart. Just make this a one topic podcast today because of the significance of the Romo News. The only thing anybody's wanted to talk about over the weekend and and this morning so far so it's a just a big deal to to CBS. Yeah listen you know at the end of the day John First of all. It's not our money so it's easy to spend but you WANNA procure the highest level talent that that's at the end of the day that Tony Romo is not going to bring you any more viewers but he does absolutely have a massive impact on how the people who watch your network consume your network and to me. I'm always about you. Keep the best talent and because that's ultimately what's a differentiator so so yeah kudos to CBS. They kept their guy. And that was the most important thing John Rand is define sports media reporter for Sports Business Daily Sports Business Journal go on twitter. 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Andrew Marchand on Tony Romo Contract

SI Media Podcast

24:57 min | 5 months ago

Andrew Marchand on Tony Romo Contract

"Welcome everyone to the SL media podcast. I'm your host Jimmy Traina. Thanks for tuning in. This is a bonus episode after the breaking news. Friday night that Tony Romo has decided to stay with. Cbs Andrew. Marsha and New York Post sports media reporter broke the story. Tony getting seventeen million per year in a very significant deal for CBS so We have Andrew on this episode to break it all down and discuss the ramifications of it we will have a regular episode on Wednesday with Rachel Nichols of ESPN. So make sure you check that. And if you're not a subscriber subscribe to the podcast right now here. We Go Tony Romo new contract. Cbs seventeen million per the man broke it. Andrew Marsh Aon of the New York Post right here on the media. Podcast I joining me now. The man who broke the Tony Romo story Friday night. Congratulations he's a regular here on the media. Podcast so I feel a sense of pride here Andrew Marsh. The New York Post Andrew. How are you? I'm doing well? Thanks Jimmy before it gets it Tony just for a second on you Was that a big rush on Friday night. It was it was. I mean I I wrote about Tony's Free Agency after AFC. Championship game In two thousand nineteen in after the Patriots and chiefs of the day. After that. This could happen that you know Romo's contract's up at the end of the year he spn and others might be interested in them and so it will be very interesting and then You know I've written a number of times probably too many. Yes his mind over the last year about you know the Romo situation so you do want to break it when happens but for me personally. I think you know the other stories are kind of more important to me. Because you know happens sometimes You know who gets the WHO says it I To me is not as important as like kind of the context that goes into the story as the year goes on and then even after but but when it did happen yes. There's a lot of gentlemen and I heard from a million people so it was It was good. I saw all the praise all the re tweets and obviously was a huge but on Friday night. I did see one tweet. Though from someone ripping you like you know how. How can you report this in the middle of the corona virus and you know a president who is a sociopath? You know trying to save us all which I found highly amusing that there was a correlation between the two. Yeah I mean I don't I don't know I I. I'm not going to act. As a sports. Media is important in the grand scheme of things. It's not but I will say you know this is You know more than one. Hundred million dollar deal and You know the contracts that the NFL is going to be accepting from the networks. Do you know next year billion. So how does the big business of importance to it? How dare you do your job all right? So let's get into Rome a little bit so let me just pull back the curtain here and and give everyone the the low down on. What exactly is happening? So I'm taping this with Andrew this the earliest. They've ever taped a podcast. It's shortly before nine on the east coast so want to get the pod in train of thoughts today and you haven't seen it yet. It's not out yet but the theme of train of thoughts for Monday is and I WANNA get your take on it is normally. Twitter is not a reflection of real life and you know people can tweet about things. It doesn't necessarily lead to ratings doesn't lead to money. I the biggest example I ever remember was shark. Nato and that got awful movie was on and there was a billion tweets about it and it got like a zero point one rating Social media played a huge part in this in my opinion and I in two ways one social media helped get Romo that job because I think social media was a huge huge component in. Cbs cutting ties with Phil Simms. And I think Tony's unparalleled popularity. Listen they're not paying him because of twitter. I'M NOT SAYING THAT I. I don't think Tony's responsible for ratings points Patriots steelers four twenty-five CBS. People ARE GONNA. Watch it no matter who the announces are but for CBS. To not have to deal with the headache like ESPN does of their people. Getting bashed twenty four seven on twitter. I think was. I'm not going to say a huge factor but I think it was a somewhat significant factor in this. Am I right or wrong? I think it's chicken and egg south but I do think there's credence to what you're saying. Romo's very good and he came out shoot very very well. I know you were quick to say you know in his first broadcast that he thought this guy is really good And so that's number one and I do think social media hurt Phil Simms. I think also heard him that. Bbs Had Thursday and Sunday. And although I know that doesn't seem like a lot of heavy lifting to games when you're done to gave him and that's been really Just weren't meshing at that point That hurt built But Yeah I think it's popularity on social media he has had these moments that are rare For from that first game As you pointed out where he was predicting the place to that ethic AFC championship games. And I know there's some people you know there's there's obviously going to be some people don't like An announcer Our Buddy Chris. Russo was wanted not high in roanoke but I think if you look at AFC championship game as Sports Media Nerds that we are in two thousand nineteen that was the greatest analyst game probably ever. I don't know I'd have to think about it and you know deeper to really put it but like the predicting just sitting on top of it and also the thing that Tony has that makes them stand out is it just feels like if you were you know cracking open a beer watching the game. He saying similar things. He's excited about watching the game. Which is something. You can't really fake and something that That he has You know kind of like allows them to cut through and I think being genuine is really. What kind of can can can rise In terms of popularity popularity on social media even with your commentary overall how. It's not really real life. He's accurate but being genuine in terms of your passion for something can can cut through now. Obviously the seventeen million per is what people are paying attention to and it's getting a lot of headlines. I'm not as wrapped up in the money. I I've sort of learned to be desensitized by money in sports along time ago. What I want to focus on is is a couple of things here in in. Hopefully you can shed some light on it for the listeners. But I find interesting. Cbs has contract with the NFL. Runs through twenty twenty two obviously If you're a sports media person you know that there's negotiations going on for new deals for the NFL and what you reported in your column. Is that the deal with Tony with. Cbs's quote significant more than significantly more than five years. So how does this breakdown with the with the new deal? I mean how much of CBS trying to retain their Sunday package was part of Tony. Getting this deal couple of things there so I'm doing further reporting on certain things so I'm just GONNA go on. What getting out there. Hopefully by by cats out perhaps we'll have more More stories forthcoming but The way these contracts work is you have They're out if the CBS were to lose the rights to the NFL. Because obviously they didn't have the rights. They wouldn't need Tony. Romo to do the Games. But then they retain the NFL. Then the contract kicks in and goes so that's like standard operating procedure for any of these contracts. Because you'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TONY. Romo do you know on on staff If he's not doing McCain's and so when you look at this The and you say when you dig into the money's why did see the the money you know extraordinary And it's because they're trying to oppress the people on Park Avenue at the NFL officemax and they want the NFL. But if you look at Bykov CBS and their future. And what it's going to be largely built on network. Tv is built on the NFL and they know Disney's coming Who'd Fox always interested in adding more fell and so they want to put themselves in the best position and at the end of the day. They thought that they need to make that statement. And it's through Tony Romo's benefit and every which way from what you said about twitter to go through Kenner fifty things. I've just broken Romo's way. And that's why he ended up with such a humongous contract and what might have broken his way. More than anything in terms of being the biggest factors. Espn would come after men also in in your column. Anyone hasn't Read Andrew Collin from Friday night on the New York Post Calm. You could check it out. Tony never really entered free agency. Cbs retained him before he was able to negotiate with ESPN How you would have gone higher than the seventeen million. I do not I do not think so But that that but also you know once you get into the arena of of negotiating Cbs is defense. It's not there's really no telling what might have happened right. Because they couldn't they weren't allowed to make any official offers until then and so I've strong indications that they wouldn't have done that and and so So but but again. It's easy when you're outside to say you should send this or not but you have to actually pull the trigger on these things and you're you can. You can do some things reading something. I don't really WANNA do that. They you know the issue was. They didn't really there wasn't really an alternative that was available for them. I never from one split. Second thought he'd go to ESPN. We've talked about this before in this podcast that you know you're wrong. I get like one of those things like you're wrong you're right so like he ended up at ESPN and there were times during the year that people at CBS important. People THOUGHT HE'S GONNA STAND OUT. It. You'RE GONNA say Negoti but I'll tell you I have someone I had someone in. I had someone in this business on air talent. Call during the week of a super bowls. Ain't Tony's going. Espn and I said Tony. Romo does not want to be doing get up an NFL live and whatever other right right and then his value than ESPN goes down. If he's not doing all that stuff for for this kind of way he. We wouldn't have done that stuff. And when he said last he he did a radio with very very rare radio interview interview last week. Yeah that was nothing. No he said. I've pretty much made up my mind and that was before he ever even negotiate with. Espn so it. I never every living ready to buy. I went down and lending seated OPTIMA. You love more Last week maybe you could say look. He was playing the game. That just to maybe Here's the IT's We can only go on what actually happened. But the idea that he wouldn't have left is very wrong. Because it's like you WanNa say there's like these players like when you know just cover the Yankees or phases. The only way you can tell me loyalty was the reason is the reason is if they take less money the less money then. He was loyal he never was going to leave. When you take the most money which is fine. I don't precaution. I mean got the most money any out the safest spot which made the most sense to say. Cbs would mail but Rushing take less money. You can't tell me no. I don't think it's loyalty. I think it was that CBS's a better package. They've Super Bowl playoff games. Monday night is not a big game at all anymore. I think it was all of that. Plus he came in with Nance came in with that crew. I understand you don't WanNa see I was right. It's okay we can move on. You wanted me to make a prediction like I do. I do appreciate you correctly. You predicted correctly. I mean you had a fifty fifty shot trying to go. I appreciate the wrong. But you're right that's a good way of putting it Obviously we gotta get into what it means. Pm before we do that. Let's start with this. He's already paid well and he does a million gigs for them. But what does this mean for rimless? Partner gymnasts like disease. Does he see that and say Let me call my agent and you know. Yeah Yeah Yup. A lot of people recalling drinking following our all of these. I don't know you know these networks depends on strong they are. I think he's running my notes. Sorry Tony I don't use isn't a unique situation And had a unique skyrocket the last three years Put them in this position and he's very fortunate that the NFL rights are coming up in a year and with streaming is. Because it's the calm on all these other things that are making network TV In some of these more valuable but also putting Making a motorable He was in a unique position to to get this kind of contract. And I mean when you when you think of the money. Let's say choice men probably not total Six and a half and seven million dollars right. He does twenty four games so I mean that is ridiculous money. Let Me Straight Man Hall favor three times several times and all that. But that's what he does. And then you think about what Tony Making that even crazier so I think though there will be some hard conversations and but I will say athletes especially except employed by like a lot of them measure themselves by what that shocking right. Maybe we can't relate to that but I didn't locker rooms I know athletes. And that's how they Joe Tony's the biggest guy in the world now And so they're gonNA be sheeting that I don't know if they have the circumstances or the value that Tony brought at this moment in time right now obviously nance has his own deal because he does the NCAA tournament and he does Gulf more fees as of the network he look at it and I am very sure that will be a conversation to try to write off his money now. The other domino effect and all this is now what is ESPN. Do they You know like I said I don't want to get into like I you know I'm not trying to make a joke you're I never thought twenty was going. Espn obviously you said. You know there was a chance. So if that's the case They have a decision to make. It would be hard to see them going. Status Quo with territory and bugger. Obviously they've got this love affair with peyton manning for some reason the quarterbacks breeze and river. You don't think anybody goes. I don't know how anyone can know. How would anyone note I? Here's what I know I'll just say this. Here's what I know about Peyton Manning. It said this before anytime Peyton. Manning has been funny it's been a scripted thing the SP Saturday. I have no idea how he is calling a game. I have no idea how he's calling again so I don't know I mean cute but the thing is Jimmy is like. It's not really about your average joe average viewer some guards but it's about what the NFL wants like even with Romo. Another thing is one more powerful people to the TV committee is Jerry Jones and Tony quarterback there Sunning Joan Girolamo So I that doesn't hurt. I ended the day I agree like. Cvs STUDENT GETS NFL. Okay we'RE GONNA GET A job. I don't know if we'll get to say modern at that point but we'll go job. I hear there's a couple of things about pain I can see. Pin definitely trying to get cute and doing Peyton and Eli. I think that might be thing they try to the other thing too is though if you're ESPN. I understand why you want. Peyton manning like you said it's it's sort of an attraction for the NFL. The rights come up. They want a good booth there Monday. Night you're trying to get better games but paints kind of made it pretty clear over the last couple of years. He doesn't WanNa do it. Do you really want guy who's who's not into it. You know that's a problem. Yeah but everything we know about Peyton manning and everyone knows it will take manning people I've talked to. I don't think he would do something that he's not gonna be. Andre percents into until I I agree with what your promises like if he doesn't decided to do it yet then Why would he do it now? QUESTION. I'd have to to people who are close to Peyton manning like you know what the deal if he glad to do it and I said to him I say listen. Just forget it. You don't you don't WanNa do it. And even they'd network executives your but this is like a vicious. They're just like Pong like they're paid Mary around but they're just taller than a billion dollar game of the biggest corporations in America. You know of ipod Gears Me Fox. All these the biggest places in World right and so So peyton manning helps Disney get a super bowl which is what they want and more football which is what they want then worth a lot to them and if he's not great. I think it'd be at least a d probably that I don't. I'm not a big fan of payment allies idea. I think that's too much to me. I don't know I I just think maybe a game clogged but every week. It's GonNa be a pain in the. Us Show I think SPN does like what they did with A-rod So so do you think Peyton is option number one for. Do you think there's any chance they bring back taciturn bugger? I think it's hard for them to bring back the door and blogger. Now you have to understand where we are in the cycle of terms of negotiation to the right the NFL was happy with You know especially in the playoff game just the booth overall. They just feel like that booth is not on par with the other foods than generally speaking. That's the People. I think that Booker Kinda gets a raw deal because can put Mr Vision of being on Monday night. Football without having really ever called boot like literally never called him a booth mobile but like I just that's not a recipe for success And so I think you know he gets a raw deal. And then you'll catch the tour. I think is better on. Boxing on an expired always is more suited for the college So they yeah. I don't I think it's hard. Imagine that they're just gonNA come back with us with the details with every other combination do do they have to put together a big time booth or could you see them doing a. Dan Roloff ski or a domino. Whoever's over there he's the first name that comes to mind because he's sort of a hot commodity right now Yeah he waterlog. St To move is the topic live at the Espn Guy who they elevate. And make into a star. You know I read this before you know goodbye Tau they. Bill is urge to guys who had solid career either in college or the pros but were superstars As on the fielder invite Paul's case as a and then became superstars at ESPN. But I think it's too early From people I've spoken to. I don't think you look at it. They just It's too early floral home and and ESPN concern is that somebody might like allowed ski on get up and you know an excellent starts if you were to put them on Monday night. Football picked up. You know he might get picked apart like everyone else right now. He's thing the people picking to know what they're looking at not to me The most important thing is you have to know what you're here. You have to have a good year and know what you're you're choosing and so I personally I probably would consider data lachey independence with all. The choices are Not The really. I've watched things with barbeque. She's a very good player in college. In the gains of a song was buried deeper to say you know what I think he can do it all right last question before we wrap up and it's back out. Does this at any pressure to Tony. Here's a deal. There are people who Friday at six. Pm Eastern love. Tony Romo. There are people at seven. Pm Eastern after. They saw that. He's getting seventeen million a year. Who Don't like Tony Romo or GonNa Rip Tony Romo? Tony obviously doesn't Care He. He's doing games. He doesn't check twitter. He tuned it out gases paycheck. Does this change anything for Tony? Any extra pressure anything like that. Yeah I think there's always backlash back garden list of the money because that's how it works Popular and then there's GonNa be people who Right now he's not that good And so there was a backlash but the money. They'll be backlash and he's not as into it. And if you're watching games though it sounds like you watch random. Sunday Game Time. Second quarter by age does As you might think. But he has the ability to step it up You know when accounts like I just didn't think about the AFC championship game or divisional. Playoff Soy divisional playoff when Titan and patriots and able and Dollar check. We're doing the time I shuffle. And he was like all over. It really did leading even bring in Sarah's word and it was it was just like really good. Tv and so he does have that ability but But yeah there will be backlash because this how this works and and we talked about kid be social media city girl. He's this he's that and I think the question is also over ten years. Is that Tony Romo deal you advantage? Is that yes? He's a natural on the air but it helps a lot to be a natural in the air and then you add the fact that he just came out the field which really helps as you get further away from the field if you depending home further away from the field depending how much studying you're willing to do much prep your new pool him on how level. But if you don't play this change and you know you know they deem changes even if he does is kind of a savant with a football teams You could offer is going to be able to work even more so on I. Thanks for coming on early in the morning. I appreciate it congrats on the scoop and like I said Tony was never gone. Espn Baltimore off. I take it easy. My thanks to assign media podcast regular Andrew Marsh of the New York Post big scoop for him breaking the Tony Romo contract situation again. Radio this is a bonus episode regular episode out Wednesday with Rachel Nichols of ESPN. So check that out. 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TBT: Tony Romo in August of 2019 on The Ocho

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TBT: Tony Romo in August of 2019 on The Ocho

"People do amazing things every day and yet most of us feel like we can't do our taxes ourselves it doesn't make any sense. Turbo tax believes that with the right tools. Encouragement people can do anything. Yes even taxes and with turbo tax live you have access to. CPA's on demand. Dan Who are available even on nights begins to answer your questions or give you advice to help. Make sure you do your taxes right and get your best possible refund turbo tax. All people are tax people. What a world? Welcome to another episode of the Ocho presented you in partnership as always it s nations blog on the boys dot com. My name are Joe Cha you know me yeah of course from bt be an from writer as humble host on the Oh Joe it is Thursday February Thirteenth Two thousand twenty. Hopefully your Valentine's Day plans are set if you need some plans. Hopefully you're not you know. Find a reservation at the last second in fact I know you're not. I know that you are prepared person. And so so you've been prepared for a long time here and hopefully Whatever you have planned for Valentine's Day whoever you spend with is going to be Quite the experience it is Thursday and so wanted to try out something new Don't don't you just you know. Go Go with me here. Just trust me and I think everyone some trust. I wanted to try something new. You know the kids you know when they share the photos on on the instance. The Sheriff Photo on Thursday and it's throwback Thursday and you look back that's the whole point you put a photo of when you were younger of when this. This happened a long time ago. And he's saying I'm throwing back. Well we're GONNA throw it back today. Go to throw it back if I do the math here. What like six months right so like half a year That should not have been as difficult as it was a little embarrassed but there are back to August of two thousand nineteen when we had Tony Romo on this show that's right. CBS's CBS. Is Tony Romo at the time. At least who knows where Tony Romo ends up now. Obviously Dallas cowboys legendary quarterback franchise leader in so many capacities acities. You Know Romo you love him and I just thought. Hey No. We're we're we're China will try to get better and so if this is something you like you. We're very fortunate very blessed to have had some awesome interviews happen in the life of this show and so we'll certainly drop them out every Thursday if you do like this practice just just so you know some programming information. We will have a brand new episode of the 750 with myself in a different Tony. Two time superbowl champion. Tony Casillas. That will drop later later on Thursday and we'll have a normal episode of the show on Friday so on and so forth but anyway so here is my conversation with Tony. Romo from back in August of two thousand is a nineteen. We talked a variety of things Tony was plugging Corona which you know didn't really at the time that he he had a a new fleet of commercials coming out to replace Jon Gruden in that capacity so here it is my conversation with Tony Romo from August of two thousand nineteen right here on the Oj? Pleased to be joined now by a CDs analysts in Dallas Cowboys Legendary quarterback Tony Romo the corona man himself Tony. How're you doing? Doing good uh joined myself getting ready for football season here. So what's it like to be working with corona again. Because I understand it you you enjoy a corona I'm I'm quite a lot Well I do whenever I sit down and watch a game you know I always you know back being a fan. There's there's an football game or something you'd have a corona and I ended up partnering with them last year and we did Rona. You Know Game Day hotline and you can call in and hear me Talks fantasy football tips. PEP talks teams. A lot of silliness all that you know not entirely sure is completely kosher for me to talk about right now. The great working so you mentioned tips and things like that people can call right and they can hear you at believe. The number is one eight. Four four nine corona it's a lot like the neckline my Sharon Hey they may have done that on purpose. I don't know that marketing team. There's pretty much yeah you can call and basically you you know I went through a ton of stuff talking about different things so you call in. I think you're here some fantasy football tips football like I said some probably me being a little Elliott Times but It's been great. You mentioned being seal. You mentioned Thursday night football minute ago. I believe it was your first year in the booth I think your wife might have shared this on instagram of video of you. kind of warming up to I think it was something about this. There was one song that you would just kinda warming up to. Is that kind of a pre game tradition of yours in the booth. Maybe just because I know Ahmadou radio show or something like that. I like to you know while I'm driving. They're Kinda sing and in one of my voice though. Is that something you do. Yeah actually that is usually it said that is a two part reason. Why one you know I get the voice going a little bit? Just 'cause you know I've got a terrible voice. That's you gotTa do the best you can. That's one and the second part is because it's really fun to sing and listen to the music you I can make everyone listen to it around you so those are the two reasons warm up with do you You've mentioned this before and I'm really curious about this aspect to your job. Now you've talked not about necessarily the nineteen eighty six masters yes And everything that was great about that but the nineteen ninety eight masters. And you've you've talked before about how you got home from Church I believe and you turned on the TV in this day and age where you couldn't just track what was happening on the internet or on twitter. Whatever and your booze may Jim nance comes in and says you're not gonNA believe what's happening and I've always is felt people? They identify major sports moments. With what the broadcaster said at the time. So what's it like to be in that position. Now you're at a point in your career what you call the Super Super Bowl people will remember the words you say with these great sports events forever. I appreciate you saying that I mean you hit it on the head. I can still remember that moment. Omit clear as day. You know you wait to that. Telecast comes on the masters you know wouldn't come on at nine. AM It'd come out like eleven or one or something and and the first thing when they came on was you know I knew Jack Nicholas was behind by five starting the day and he's fifty eight years old. I was always a Jack Nicklaus fan and I was like he can't win. There's no no way but I'm like but I'm rooting for him. In nineteen sixty did it and he gets on Aaron Nance opens the telecast with. You're not gonNA believe what you're about to see and boom they go right to Nicholas and I just hit the ceiling. I mean I was so excited spurt yet to Birdie at Ford and I think that's part of the reason why I think I really enjoy the job because just being at home knowing that you can make someone's experience better and Really make it. You know enjoyable. I guess you could say I want you to have fun. I want you to like maybe learn. Maybe get inside the game a little bit. And that's that's enjoyable for me to try and produce that that's good perspective. What was that like this year with the master's I mean you know not that you met Jim Nance when you guys became partners but you're you're behind the ropes Naso when you're watching something like Tiger winning the masters knowing Jim and being good pals I mean is it a completely different experience than it was in eighty six or ninety eight or whatever you WANNA use? Yeah it is and I mean just you know the tiger winning just the emotional emotional aspect of you know Jim my friend Tiger just these guys winning it and me being so happy and proud for them you know for Nance one of his you know. Greatest things he's ever done in broadcasting be that that masters and you know I don't know exactly ranks but it's got to be way up there for him. It's not at the top and and I think you know for tiger. It's going to be the exact same thing and you know just seeing that unfold like that. I mean that's why we love sports. You just can't predict something like that was going to happen and it makes it like a movie. Sure I think that's all said and I think that that's why people really enjoy your broadcast ask. That energy comes across and that's necessary in football in a way that's different from other sports of the Games you've called so far excluding playoff games and obviously the super bowl. What's your favorite No playoff games no super bowl right because those are a little different. You know the magnitude of it. It all kind of adds to the moment. Yeah that's true. I mean maybe the first one the first game you ever did it just it was so new and raw and everything was great. I mean but the problem is that I've had so many I can remember. Chiefs Raiders Game. There's like four penalties on the final play. Royal Time expired You know to your so. That was just incredible. Finished that game. You know that was really enjoyable to Thanksgiving game doing in Dallas. Coming back home. I mean that was really enjoyable. I mean there's a lot of different moments patriots steelers. Sheriff came down to the white here. I mean those games so there's a lot of you mentioned coming back home and obviously a lot's happened with your buddy Jason witten wooden coming out of retirement. Do you give them any crab. Just like dude. I narrated the video for you know what I mean. I'M NOT GONNA do a second one no now I didn't give you know. He just has that issue and he can still play. And so he's going to be Jason Witten. I think it's GonNa be fun just as a fan watching him go out there. And and Get out there. Run Y option to move James. You know I think that you're going to see the same guy absolutely What are your expectations as somebody who studied the game? I'm and far more cerebral way over the last couple of years of Kellen Moore. I mean you guys shed some time together in the cowboys quarterback. What are your expectations for him as the cowboys offensive coordinator season yeah? I think he'll do a good job I think. He's you know a smart intelligent. You know person who's GonNa try and and us you know the skill set of the people. He hasn't the team I mean he's GonNa try and move cooper around and give him the ball. I think he's going to try. And and the Ball Austin Zeke. I I think the system still going to be the same system. It's been for a long time. I just think they're just see a few wrinkles here and there sprinkled in but I. I don't know that you're going to see some brand new offense the way it looks sure. I think that that's fair. I mean obviously You know something's changing some things. Don't considering your time in the booth what what have you learned most that. You didn't learn from being a quarterback Well I think I learned I mean for me. The team aspect of this is just like a sport. It's just a small team but it's like I mean our team all has to phone work together. Everyone's do their job at a high level for it to be successful and I think I didn't realize coming in. Just how many people you know really allow this this broadcast to Be a good one and be successful. And so that's been enjoyable to get to know almost have your second team where you're on the road you're with almost the second pseudo family here. I'm just lucky because I really like everybody in really fun. What have you done this offseason? But isn't football related isn't Gafa eventually been on the course. Maybe something you watched on Netflix. How'd you how'd you relax Yeah I think how my dad add basically. That's pretty much all the time that I have. It's golfing announcing that. Basically just you know playing with my kids. I got three young boys seven five and coming up onto here. You're so I think that's basically what I do. It's enjoyable as far as I've watched recently There's this great documentary called in search of greatness. It miss that I thought they did a great job describing about you know how some of these people have done it so I guess that would be a recent one log. Put It on my list you. You're doing a lot of pep talks with corona and I'm curious what wouldn't mind do you give rj pep talk. What would it be any facet of life that I could in any moment of of my life in the future? Lean back on okay. I needed full this up on my phone because Tony said this. The number one thing is yes. Better love what you do and I think at the end of the day better have a coronal. Let's just think about it. I think that's good. I think that's pretty again. Just go out there and I think easiest way it's so cliche but it is true you know life is enjoyable for me right now simply because I do enjoy the things that I get to do with my time and that's one of the hardest things in life is to find time to do the things you enjoy but you can find a way to do it. It's really a it just makes the joyful. I think that that you know they'll put that quote on like a rock or something so I did hallmark inciteful. Final thing. Tony you've spoken talking before about your faith and things like that. What what? What role does the plan your life? I mean you mentioned your dad. Your husband traveling a lot. What what's your life like in your? You're walking your face. I think it's really the basic starting point for everything you do. I mean I think it's probably ably would bridge the gap of every different phase in my life. Is You know no matter what is just you know my faith just up the center of you know for me. It's it's pretty simple. It's you know I'm center. Jesus died for my sins and I'm thankful that I can't do it myself that I still want to do for me. So that's at at the center of each decision. It's also why you know. I don't think I'm very hard on anybody because I know I mess up and I think we all are honest or record do the same thing but yeah I think that's part of being human and then get lucky that you have someone to care for. That's what I said Tony. Romo thanks a lot have a great season Have a couple of Corona's you though lime right every time you never go line Louis. Oh no I've done both. I think I didn't have a lime around. Okay no I like it either way. It's good appreciate Tony Grades Season and enjoy everything got going on. Thanks have they obviously very awesome to have been joined by Tony. Romo back in August of two thousand nineteen and really interesting to look back At his thoughts lots on what. The two thousand nine hundred cowboys were before the season began. I think that's interesting. We'll look at that now that we know how the season unfolding and whatnot and So I hope you I hope. You liked the throwback Thursday thing we've got a lot of great interviews like I said we were still blessed and so fortunate here The blog the boys had some fantastic interviews over the years. Now we can go way back. We we can do some fun throwback Thursdays if you like that I just I thought you know with with the DAG stuff. Maybe it'd be it'd be nice to look back on the Privy Mir every now and then but anyway hope you hope you have a fantastic Thursday. You know I'll say this. I'm recording this before. It actually is something. I've scene but Wednesday night. The new season of survivor. I think it's called winters at war. I'm actually embarrassed that I do not know this. But it is the season Premiere of survivor. It is an all winter season. And so if you're listening to this on Thursday and you didn't watch it. Maybe you've never seen Sarah before you know that I've if you've listened to the Ocho forever you know first of all love you second second of all you know that. I have tried to convince Xavier Woods to watch the show. I promise you it is the best reality show on television. Trust me all right. If if you're on the fence give it a try I. This is the season to watch. Every contestant has wan survivor before. So it's I mean this is. This is the champions the league I mean this is the play offs. Whatever analogy you WANNA come up with this? Is it So I'm excited to watch it after I finish according to this and by the time you listen into this I'll have already seen it. Look at that time works anyway. If you did see it and you WanNa talk about it you can hit me up. You can follow me on twitter instagram at our job. Show on both you can always shoot me. An the email. Rj Dot Ocho ESPY NATION DOT COM. And I know I keep saying this but we do have some big plans coming. 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The Ocho: CBS Analyst and former Dallas Cowboys QB Tony Romo

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16:01 min | 1 year ago

The Ocho: CBS Analyst and former Dallas Cowboys QB Tony Romo

"America what up world welcome to another episode of the oh joe presented to you in partnership as has always log on the boys dot com my name arja show you know me of course from b._t._v. and from right here humble host on the ocho it is thursday august fifteenth two thousand and nineteen and we have a very special surprise in store for you. Today we do our best to bring guest after guest as much as we can often as we can here on the ocho and on thursday. We brought somebody who. I know that you definitely love. We were very fortunate to be joined into by none other than c._b._s. Analysts in dallas cowboys legendary quarterback tony romo. That's right nine himself joined the ocho to talk all things corona corona hotlines c._b._s. Announcing broadcasting in general the masters the dallas cowboys jason wouldn't kill and more it was a great chat and one. I think that you will really enjoy <hes>. Tony's personality came across really well. I thought if you watch him on c._b._s. You know that he is all about giving his emotion and being authentic with his presentation asian when it comes to broadcasting games and i think that you'll hear that in this interview i don't wanna waste any time i just want to remind you more time to make sure that you are subscribing to the blog in the boys podcast feed wherever you get your podcast subscribe rate and review those things help us out so much and we appreciate them more than you know so without further ado here he she is from c._b._s. And of course from your heart says the dallas cowboys quarterback. Tony romo here on the ocho pleased to be joined now by c._b._s. Analyst in dallas cowboys legendary quarterback tony romo the corona man himself tony. How're you doing doing good joy myself getting ready for football season here <hes> so what's it like to be working with corona again because as i understand it you you enjoy corona and lime quite a lot well. I do whenever i sit down and watch gotcha game. You know i always you know back being a fan thursday night football game or something you'd have a corona and i ended up partnering with them last year and we did rona you know game day hotline and you can call in and hear me <hes> toxin fantasy football tips pep talks through teams a lot of silliness. All that not entirely sure is completely kosher me to talk about right now. It's been great working with so <hes> you mentioned tips and things like that people you can call right and they can hear you believe the number is one eight four four nine corona. It sounds a lot like the neckline my sharon hey. They may have done that on purpose. I don't know that marketing team. There's pretty darn. I all <hes> yeah you can go and basically you. You know i went through a ton of stuff talking about different things things so you call in. I think you're here some fantasy football tips tips something football like i said some probably me being a little chilly the at times but <hes> it's been great you mentioned being silly mentioned thursday night football minute ago. I believe it was your first year in the booth. <hes> i think your wife life might have shared this on instagram of video of you kind of warming up <hes> to <hes>. I think it was something about this. There was one song that you would just kind of warming up to is that kind of a pre game tradition of yours in the booth. Maybe just because i know i'm gonna do a radio show or something like that. I like to while i'm driving. They're kind of seeing in one of my voice. Always at some you do yeah. Actually that is usually it's a it's a two part reason. Why one you know get the voice going a little bit just because you and i got terrible voice so it's like you gotta do the best you can. That's one and the second part is because it's really fun to sing and listen to the music you i can make everyone. Listen to it around you. So the reasons warm up with that you you've mentioned this before and i'm really curious about this aspect to your the job. Now you've talked about necessarily the nine hundred eighty six masters <hes> and everything that was great about that but the nineteen ninety eight masters and you've you've talked before about how oh you got home from church. I believe and you turned on the t._v. In this day and age where you couldn't just trap what was happening on the internet on twitter whatever and your booth may gymnasts is comes in and says you're not gonna believe what's happening and i've always felt that people they identify major sports moments with what the broadcaster said at the time so what's it live to be in that position now. You're at a point in your career. What you call the super bowl people remember the words you say with these great sports forever <music>. I'm pretty sure you're saying that. I mean you hit it on the head. I can still remember that moment clear as day you wait to that telecast comes on the masters you know wouldn't come on at nine nine a._m. And it would come out at like eleven or one or something and and the first thing when they came on was you know i knew jack. Nicholas was behind by five starting the day and he's fifty eight years old. I was always jack. Nicklaus san and i was like he can't win. There's no way but i'm like but i'm rooting for him. In nineteen eighty six did it and he gets on air and nance opens the telecast with you're not gonna believe what you're about to see and boom they go right to nicholas and i just hit the ceiling. I mean i was so excited. Spurred yet to birdie at for camila and i think that's part of the reason why i think i really enjoy the job because just being at home knowing knowing that you can make someone's experience better and <hes> really make it enjoyable. I guess you could say. I want you to have fun. I want you to like maybe learn. Maybe maybe get inside the game a little bit and that's that's enjoyable for me to try and produce that that's good perspective. What was that like this year with the masters. I mean not that you met jim. Nance when you guys became partners but you're you're behind the roads now so when you're watching something like tiger winning the masters knowing jim and and being good pows i mean is it a completely different strengths than it was an eighty six or ninety eight or whatever you wanna use yeah it. It is and i mean just you know the tiger winning. Just the emotional aspect of you know jim my friend tiger you know just these guys winning it and me gene so happy and proud for them. You know for one of his. You know greatest things he's ever done in broadcasting. Be that that masters and you know. I don't know exactly what ranks from way up there for him. If not at the top and i think you know for tiger it's going to be the exact same thing and you know just seeing that unfold like like that. I mean that's why we love sports. You just can't predict that something like that was going to happen and it makes it like a movie sure. I think that that's all said and i think that that's why people really enjoy your broadcast because that energy comes across and that's necessary and football in a way that's different from other sports of the games. You've called so far excluding playoff games and obviously the super bowl. What's your favorite <hes>. No oh playoff games no super bowl because those are a little different you know the magnitude of it kinda adds to the moment yeah that's true. I mean maybe the first one is just the first game you ever did to something. It was so new and raw and everything was great but the problem is that i've had so many i can remember knbr chiefs raiders game. There's like four penalties on the final play of time expired. <hes> you know that was just incredible. Edible finished that game that was really enjoyable to <hes> just thanksgiving game doing in dallas coming back home. I mean that was really enjoyable. I mean there's a lot of different moments. You know patriots. Steelers came down to the white. You're i mean those games. So there's a lot. Do you mentioned coming back home and obviously a lot's happened with your buddy. Jason witten coming out of retirement. You give him any crab just like dude. I narrated the video for it <music>. I'm not gonna do a second one. No i didn't give you know he just has that issue and he can still play and so he's going to be jason and why. I think it's going to be fun just watching him. Go out there and <hes> get out there. Runway option move change you know i think that you're going to see the same guy absolutely <hes> what are your expectations as somebody who studied the game in a in a far more cerebral way over the last couple of years of kellen moore i mean you guys shared some time together in the cowboys quarterback room. What are your expectations for him as the cowboys offensive coordinator this season yeah. I think he'll do a good job. I think he's you know smart intelligent person who's gonna try and use the skill set of people. He hasn't the team. I mean he's gonna try and move cooper around and give him the ball at these gonna try and and the ball zeke. I think the system still going to be the same system. It's been for a long time. I just think there's a c- if you wrinkles here and there sprinkled in but i don't know that you're gonna see some brand new offense the way it looks sure. I think that that's fair. I mean obviously you know something's changing. Some things don't considering your. I'm in the booth. What what have you learned most that you didn't learn from being a quarterback <hes>. I think i learned i mean for me. Just the team aspect of this is just like a sport. It's just smart team but it's like i mean our team all has to vote and work together everyone to do their job at a high level for it to be successful and i think i didn't realize coming in just how many <hes> people you know really allow this broadcast to be a good one and be successful and so that's been enjoyable to get to know and almost of your second team where you're on the road. You're with you know almost the second pseudo family here and i'm just lucky because i really like everybody. That's really fun. What have you done this off season. That isn't football-related isn't gafa later. You've obviously been on the course. Maybe something you watch on netflix. How'd you how'd you relax <hes> yeah. I think how my dad basically that's pretty much all the time that i have. It's golfing announcing that i basically just you know playing with my kids. I got three young boys seven five and coming up on two here so i think that's basically what i do. It's enjoyable as far as i've watched i recently <hes> there's this great documentary called in search of greatness that i thought they did a great job describing about you know how some of these people have done it so i. I guess that would be a recent one. Put it on my list. You know you're doing a lot of pep talks with corona and i'm curious what would mind you give r._j. Pep talk doc. What would it be any facet of life that i could in any moment of my life in the future lean back on say okay. I need full this on my phone because tony said this well. I think the number one thing is yeah. Better love which you do and i think at the end of the day and better have a corona just think about it. I think that's advice. I think that's pretty good. Just go out. There and i think the easiest way it's so cliche but it is true you life is enjoyable for me right now. Simply because i do enjoy you know the things that i get to do my time and that's one of the hardest things in life is to find time to do the things you enjoy but you can find a way to do it. It's really just makes the joyful. I think that that you know they'll put that quote on like a rock or something so i did hallmark mark because its final thing tony you've spoken before about your faith and things like that. What what what role does it play in your life. I mean you mentioned your adad your husband i mean you're traveling a lot. What what's your life like in your walking your face. I think it's really the basic starting point for everything you do. I mean i think <hes> it's probably what's bridge the gap every different phase in my life. Is you know no matter where that is. Just <hes> you know my face. Just up the center of you know for me. It's pretty simple. It's you know i'm a sinner. She's died for my sins and i i think that <hes> i can't do it myself that i did it for me so that's at the center of each decision. It's also why you know. I don't think i'm very hard on anybody because i know now i mess up and then we'll for honest court do say thing but i think that that's part of being human and then you're lucky that you have if someone took care of. That's why i say tony romo. Thanks a lot have a great season. <hes> have a couple of corona's lime right every time. You never go line louis. Oh i've done. Both i think mostly we didn't have a lime around okay. No i like it either way. It's good appreciate it have a great season and enjoy everything you've got going on. Experts have wanna give some big banks to tony romo to corona to c._b._s. Everybody involved. They help make that happen. <hes> like i said at the top you know tony's personality is something that people dot com. That's why people really enjoy watching him broadcast games and i think that that obviously comes across when he's in the booth. I think it comes across when he's doing interviews. I didn't comes across in the way he plays golf. I mean and i think it's so interesting to hear him. Talk about things like the masters and the things like broadcasting and things like just being sports fan because that's so much of what his personality is so again. Thank you so much tony corona c._b._s. That was awesome and i really hope you enjoyed it that about does it for thursday's episode so hopefully all is well wherever you are. We certainly hope that everything's going great in your life. 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OchoLive: Chris Weaver Of NFL Films Talks Tony Romo "A Football Life" Episode

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1:04:01 hr | 2 years ago

OchoLive: Chris Weaver Of NFL Films Talks Tony Romo "A Football Life" Episode

"Nona. What up world. A welcome to another episode of Joel. I presented to you in partnership with Espy nations, blog on the boys dot com. My name Joe, you know me, of course from BT and from right here as you're humble host. I know Joe alive, you can watch our live shows about every day at about three PM central time. Sometimes the rigors of life get in the way and we have to call an audible, which is what we've done today. Welcome to special podcast. Only addition of the show presented you obviously on the blog and the boys podcast network in partnership with Espy nation in vox media. Make sure however you're listening to this that you are subscribed to the blog on the voice fee. We got lots of great shows for you. Talk on the star, Bruce and the boys Ocho live obviously, and the seven. Five. Oh, with two-time, Super Bowl champion, Tony, Casillas, but we are here today on Ocho live again a very special episode. We've done this if you times in the past bringing in a good friend, one of the best friends of Joe alive. The one, the only the incomparable Chris Weaver NFL films producer and extraordinaire. Chris has worked on many Dallas Cowboys films that NFL films including the Troy Aikman episode of a football is the Smith episode. Jerry Jones episode and most recently, depending on the time of you're listening to this detainee Romo episode of football. I Tony Romo episode of AFL premiers on Friday, September twenty eighth two thousand eighteen. You can set your DVR get ready to watch it live. I'll tell you what I've seen it and it is fantastic. If you're a Dallas Cowboys fan, if you're a Tony Romo fan, if you're just a fan of good stories, you are going to really love and appreciate the hard work that Chris and the NFL films team put into this and in order to get a proper perspective of what goes into this and specifically what goes into a film about Tony Romo who somebody who many Cowboys fans certainly, no. Well, we wanted to go straight to the source who wanted to go straight to the well to understand the thought the preparation. The treatment is you'll hear you wanted to understand exactly how you tell a story that is so powerful. Because Tony romo's we all know when from undrafted free agent to the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. That's an ascension never before seen in the world of professional sports. And it's certainly one worth examining underneath the the microscope, which is what NFL films did. So without further ado, let's stop wasting time. Let's get straight to the meat of things. Here is the one. The only Chris Weaver NFL films right here. Joining special Todd cats only addition of Ocho live the one, the only the man of the the legend. Chris Weaver NFL films producer extraordinary joining us here on July for now. I think five hundred thirty second time, Chris. Yeah, happy week. Forty. You my friend. Well, thank you very much. So there's a lot of Perla today. I hope I can live up to your billing, but I appreciate all that you have. I really do believe you're the long longest standing with her and gets you on July in for you on the keepers. For my member fables on me, I believe, maybe not Commissioner. I don't understand the the governmental roles of the Hockey League that goes on there, but let you are somebody who's well in long affiliated with NFL films, and you have had your fingerprints all over many. These football movies for lack of a better word that many Dallas Cowboys fans specifically have enjoyed well two things. It's it's an honor to be the the most recurring guest, the most frequent guests on the podcast. I truly enjoy coming on your RJ, so I appreciate that. And yeah, I feel also honored to be such a part of telling the story in the history of the Dallas Cowboys growing up there as a fan. It's it's been, I hate to even call it a dream to do this because I never even dreamed it as a kid, but being able to tell these stories, especially to fan base in an audience that is so hungry to hear it. And so and so rapid, I really considered honor and it's a, it's a joy and pleasure to do it. So. Fantastic job. And we've had you on the top about the Choi, clan? Football is the Emmett Smith football is Jerry Jones. Football is always talking about other Cowboys related in the productions in recent memory. Things like the time line was. Yeah, I still go back and watch that town like my summer routine, and it's still so good. Try to your your compadres Hawkin Cammarata but. But we're talking now because you oversaw these Tony Romo episode of football, and I'm probably more out of the taxi this one, particularly, and I guess I'll start here. Did you feel this is my personally? Maybe you were more prepared for this one than any. And I don't mean to at all doubt your knowledge when it comes to Troy Jerry, but you know, you came off the Roma one and got to work on it in a much smaller timeframe versus Choi ended. Our Jerry, whoever's time. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, no, you absolutely right. Kind of. Yeah, absolutely. Right. It's I don't know that I would be prepared for any other football. I episode from any team play. I mean, tabloids or not. I definitely went into this one was the knowledge of seeing almost every snap that he ever took as you know, just watching the game of the fan and covering the team as an employee. So I, I knew the story probably better than anyone I can think of the top of my head to the point that you know, I probably and I don't know this for sure, but I probably spent less minutes, you know, drawing up the story and editing this one. Then I can remember on any other ones just because I felt so familiar with it, you know? And I had another pretty, I co produced it was mad Disney and he he was a big part of it and he did the, you know, three two blocks himself. I did three and he did the Burlington stuff, which people I think you're gonna love, but in general. Yeah, I was. I was ready for this on. It's one I'd been sort of even not not documenting on paper necessarily, but it had been in my head basically since. Oh, six. Oh, seven. So, yeah. I was ready for this one and couldn't wait to do it, and it was everything I hoped it would be over twenty thirty thousand six Monday night and on your own insert our lives. And I've learned in all the time that we've done these and I know I brag about this before, but I know what treatment I think I could be like an interest, you know, and treatment is kinda like the script, I guess, would be the way I would describe it for for movie like this. And when I when I saw, you know, the first one I told you before we started recording that I watched it twice. I couldn't help it thing that that Tony romo's career was book ended not only by preseason games in Seattle. When you consider what happens is you mentioned the two thousand, you know six and and obviously is final game into sixteen, but also his career starts as I career start with the Sunday night game in Carolina. And his last career start was Thanksgiving Day game against Carolina. Like do those things. In your mind when you are doing this? Is that this? 'cause I feel like more than any other player ever. I don't wanna be a prisoner at the moment, our bedroom, but it's romo's. Lice is more poetic and more hollywoodish than than any more lend into a story than anybody else. I'd say this, I sent this need preview linked to you and a couple of people. And I think I say this one of them was with Edward or because he's in the film, and I was appreciate his time on this and he, he watched it and last night, some kind words. And he said in an Email, the second time and said, it's, it's pretty amazing that this guy from the very first nappy took, you know, in a real game was interesting. Meaning the the, the game he stepped in for Bledsoe against the giants. It's very, I play was, you know, and it's true his his story is almost made for TV in and he himself has made for TV personalities grade. He's he's a good looking guy. I may say, so he's built. He's built for the camera. And so, yeah, I think his story lends itself to to film to film and filmmaking which you know we we love doing and to your point about Seattle Carolina. I hadn't thought about the Carolina connection that that first starting week eight against in six Carolina or that that second the reinjuring of the clavicle in what was that. Check my years. Fifteen was also, but I was very much aware of the Seattle threat and his career and for years when he hurt his back against Seattle, it was sort of third prong of the Seattle, you know, fork in his story, meaning he, I think, you know his career launched in the preseason game in Seattle. You know six. And it obviously is career basically ended in Seattle, and of course the the biggest moment that people remember from his career, unfortunately, for him is the job snap on the field and Seattle. So I was very much aware of how big a role the Seattle played and QWest field played in his career. And it's one of those things that I wanted to hang a lantern on that and really pointed out and hammer hammered home, but people are connecting the dots. The second person brought that up that scene sneak preview, and people are connecting those dots about how important Seattle was to career. And I remember just bringing it up the Tony and he hadn't even really thought about it quite like that. So I'm. I'm really excited to see people are putting that together and understanding. These are the kind of things we think about as producers and filmmakers to thread and theme show, and we didn't even have to say, hey, look. Here he is backing Seattle, you know, we didn't make a big deal out of it and script or anything like that. But people are getting the point that it's just slightly interesting. You know, it doesn't really mean anything necessarily, but it sure is interesting that every time he went to Seattle, something portent happened. One of the biggest ones of his career, by the way it was awesome. Seattle and fourteen when Murray when they the Murray season and he led the league in rushing and Murray ran right through the legion of boom, and they had a big connection on third down. It gets the parents on the sideline. So Seattle played a special part in romo's career for no rhyme or reason. But that's that's a neat place to have a big game in a big in a big setting for your for your games and career? No, I think I think the point fourteen when a degree can do defined as maybe his best regular-season one of all time from a collective stand on. You mentioned, obviously including the third in twenty play and the democracy performance and on the plane that ISIS. But I think you know, in when he retired, this was everywhere. You know, what's your favorite role moment or whatever. And you mentioned he's kind of been wanting to do this maybe ever since I on in play because he was so interesting. So how do you you only have an hour to work with and I I'm including commercials. 'cause everybody else from this, but you only have an hour. So how do you what? What are you start? Because I mean, and you want to give it away or anything. But I mean, you've covered semi big landmark Roma moments. But I mean, you know, I feel like the probably I know you all the time, but he's probably felt like we didn't include this. Didn't include that when I mean he is, here's somebody that has just a suitcase of faculties when it comes to big time moments, people that a lot like how do you decide what goes in film? And the short answer is just what jumps out at, you know, it's like if you're writing an article about a game, you can't cover every play. You can't you. You don't necessarily start with the. Kickoff, you have to decide what what jumps out of you now where to begin is, is trickier thing to answer explain, but shortly put I begin with what I know is going to be in the show. You know what I mean? You can spend a lot of time spinning your wheels, cutting a lot of stuff in writing a lot of scenes and into the show that might not make any end. So my advice to people's always put what you know is going to be in there. But yes, Romo there was a lot ground to cover and I say the hardest part of the whole process for me on all these films is when we get we get down to the end. We always cut these films a little long. You're always gonna be long. 'cause you're always going to have more than you can fit into the hour format. And the hardest part is is is to continue to cut it down from like being five minutes long to being three minutes long. And there's a point when you get about a minute and a half over and you really gotta start cutting bone, and that's that's extremely hard for me to do. Like I, I consider myself pretty pretty good if you're not what we can get rid of right away. And I don't him in hall too much over every. Single, edit and every single scene. But when you down that last bit and you start cutting bone, it's really hard because at that point you love it all in and you. There's nothing you wanna take out, but you gotta you gotta lean on the big moments in the best elements, and that's how we decide what makes it in there. And like for example, we spend a lotta time with parcels in that, oh six season, and even even back to the three camp when when Romo got there and it's, you know, Parcells is is is a gold mine onscreen. So we wanted to let that play and it's and it was so tied to Romo that it was easy to let that play. 'cause it was fun to watch and he's talking to Romo sound like he's talking to other people about Roma. Here he is, you know, talking to them about these about him getting better as a rookie and you know, just picking what jumps out of us is the key. I agree. I mean, the Romo conham pepperoni man. That stuff is just, I mean, you know, and it's a different time and that's kind of what I wanted to touch on that I, I feel like their landmark years for the NFL that obviously nice and eighty threes a landmark year with the job. And I feel like two thousand six went on in that regard. Two thousand fish was and I'm talking more from a commercial standpoint that would be your Monday night football, something SPN and the year, and then I football jumpsuit and in the iteration that we know it now and that was the year. I don't think you know who, incidentally, Tony Romo in at our lives, but you know, watching those games and reasoning, the teams, you know, through the snake piece, you know the uniform that different. You know what I mean? Like the swings are different and and it's just so you know, I know you a lot of football is a lot of films that chronicle different than history, but this is one that is kinda been you. You know, and they'd be speaking more to me personally. 'cause I was, you know, when I was in high school and expense on the license, I don't know. Maybe I'm experiencing autism level of knowledge. I don't know. But I mean, what's that license touch on, you know, you look Sean Alexandra's plan. You know what I mean? It's a weird. We're time. How do you, what sort of walk down memory lane? Is it how do you convey those different things? I mean, it's a movie, but I, I'm just curious how you approach it. Well, it's funny. It doesn't feel like romo's interest in the league was that long ago, but it was fifteen years ago now and all that really means we're getting old so that part of it's not fun to think about, but it's a lot of fun to go back and relive and and tell that story. And as far as OPEC specifically, I mean, at least from the Cowboys point of view, in my point of view that season that was like a lightning in the bottle season like nobody could have expected. You know the, the Cowboys to be that successful and especially because. Had a really slow start that year and to come back and make the playoffs at all. It was remarkable and it felt like a lightning in bottle season, but, but here's what's great about it in my mind or one of the reasons it's great is I thought that that's the season that you'll never be able to replicate and you might not replicate exactly, but at least the feeling that I had watching that season as as being such a special time, I didn't think it could happen again, but then we turn around and then in two thousand sixteen, you know, when Romo we got hurt and and in Seattle, like we talked about earlier that came in like that was a total lightning in a bottle season that was totally magical season with that coming in and secret, you know, rushing away led the league in rushing that year. Like those those seasons can happen at any time that that's the thing that tells me, you never know what's gonna, what's gonna a season and what's gonna make it special, but they're all they're always right around the corner is the thing I would say. But yes. Oh six and even seventy degree. We're very special, very unusual and it's a blast to go back and watch those things. Now, even though it means you and I and everybody else are getting old I win after I watched it at my own sweet, just I my with the keyword realm, just kind of things I've been saying last year and and I had talked about that I was six year and and again, I think I think a lot of greatness was sports kinda, whereas you were in life and so you know your social, your on them all that was the year. I graduated college or whatever, but you mentioned, oh seven and I wanna touch on something that that was said civic in the film. I watched his wife, but I was so overwhelmed. I forget exactly what the word was when talking about that. Oh, seven years in aerator said it was. It was one of the most fun one of the most enjoyable. It was a word like that seasons for the Dallas Cowboys. I would. I would absolutely use that word. I wouldn't even use the word successful when I would describe it. I would use the worst fun cat season was so much fun and in in in a different version of lightning in the bottle from two thousand six was the thought to. To convey that exact element versus, I mean, 'cause you talk about how they want those games are opposite elliptic, but to call them fun to call them enjoyable or something. You know, you hit the nail head. I think the final line was one of the most exciting regular seasons in what's funny is I think I can say this is I had the word fun in there, but one of the show was like, you got to be a little careful using that where fun might sound a little bit like it's, you know it's coming from your diary if you will, or something. And he was right by the way, but fun is the only way I could describe the oh seven year, I think. Oh six with such a surprise and it was house money that it was enjoyable, but it was nothing like, oh seven, oh seven to me was the year in Romo said that in the film, he said that was the best team he had, and that made that lost to the giants that much harder. But that was the year that felt like, okay, this is this is going to be the one because in my, you know, in my experience what everyone call it, you often need something you, you need unusual things to happen for the season to go. Right. And I remember watching that bills game on Monday night or Sunday night the night game. I know that when Romo through five pick and this one didn't make the film, but I just remember the way the stars align at the end of that game for them to come back and win. That was the first time. And that was midway through the c. I can't remember exactly which we seven or eight. I want to say, but that's what I remember thinking holy smokes. This is those are the things that you have to have to be one of the great to have one of the great seasons and go all the way. And so that's when I really start. It'd buying this is going to be the year. I, I really felt convinced, you know, and I think that's the same year like they were on it. They had a lot of momentum. I think they were at one loss at one point and and that's the colts would manning and and am I gonna fix might be running together, but they had they had one loss and New England came in and they were undefeated. And that was like a Super Bowl preview. Midway through the year and New England gave me a lot of fans a little dosa reality and sort of steam roll the Cowboys, but then the Cowboys got right back on track and it just felt like, all right, they're back on track. They're gonna. They're gonna get this thing done. And of course they they, they win the division and going the one seat. And I thought that was the year and Romo basically confirmed that if it was, you know that that year along with fourteen the years where you know the the team was ready to do it, and you know, unfortunately, it just didn't happen. No, I probably be the man in game was was fantastic. I believe that was his first start ever at home. I think that was coincidentally, Jim. On the call. So you know, emerging past and presidency if you wanna get really deep, but but I, I'm on a big believer that you did breaks in a game to win, and and you're right the bills game in those sevens. That really felt like this only happens within the ones Super Bowl, the Romo play against the Rams. The snap over that only happens seems when the Super Bowl, you know, the Marion Barbara run against the patriots. I know they lost that game, but that only happens teams that win the Super Bowl and you're right. I mean PEO the hall of Famer. He was on his DaMarcus way. It will be in the hall of fame was on that team, Jason women, we'll be Nala fame on it in probably the most hall of famers drivers are plenty around. We'll see what happens with consideration of offensive line that the thing, but some much of this this film from Roma's perspective with shots and what I understand to be his voice at home in Burlington. How cool was that? Now that was kind of thing that you know in general. These, I love going back home with these guys because I think the thing that viewers are the thing that I hear most from the audience is the things they send senior. Remember the most from these films are the the more current stuff. It's great to go back and relive a lot of these season games like the six, no seven, it would you talked about, but these, the newer, the fresh stuff seems to stick with the audience a little more. And so I'm a big believer in taking these guys either to their hometown or to their college, doing something taking them back because they seem to respond to that too. And so when we found out that his sister still own the home that they grew up in, I was very excited because we wanted to take him back the Burlington anyway because we knew that was gonna be a huge part of this story as much as any other taking guy home type story. And we found out that it's that is Fisher on the home. We got really excited and we all right now we can. We know we got something. Let's take him back there. Taking news his his bedroom and the drive, whether he played basketball. I mean, we, we talked about all those things. And then like I said, Matt dissing her another produce. Here cobras film. He directed all that stuff and edited and wrote it and did a tremendous job. I mean, it's it could easily be the best block in the film and we got excited about going back home and it's just it was really neat and you know, Romo it seem to resonate with him when he was there. And I think it yielded a really great scene in a great lead to the film. I would absolutely agree in, you know, I feel like sometimes not in football is just other documentaries. People can come across in authentic in like they're obviously aware like the fourth wall is broken. The aware there being found in their way, if the documentary, whatever. But I felt like his his family was incredibly offensive in the film specifically his sister when she talked about, I think this is the trailer about when she was driving by your saw digital billboard, which you know credit to getting there were there were still digital billboard when Romo. When Romo enters the our lives. But she's, she was, you know that I'm an only child I don't have a spending, so I completely resonate with this, but she was like, oh, that's my, you know, in in everyone could identify with that. Everyone can identify was saying, oh my God, that's my brother, and that that was probably my favorite part of the honestly, it was how you touched on his just ascension in the world of stardom because you know going back to those years, I mean from the office your perspective he became of rockstar, and I would say he became a roster and I'm not comparing, but that even has become now because I think now everybody's rob star, but that was still time where I mean being the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys was this you are, you're instantly the coolest at the party and that happened to him at this almost anybody you got that story really well. Well, then that's one of the the unique parts of the Romo story. And it's one of the most fascinating parts of it for me as well. Like that's something I've always wanted about is just what's it like to go from being this guy. It's, I mean, just barely hanging on the roster by finger and suddenly becoming one of the biggest faces and names in sports. I mean, when you're the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, especially when you're succeeding, which he instantly did you are, I mean, you're, you're a cover, boy, I mean your front and center, and you can't even really avoid it. And if you try to avoid it, you're probably not going to succeed either avoiding or being successful on the field. So how you handle that was interesting and itself and and I think, yeah, it was rich down the great, the longtime PR man for the Cowboys who said, you know, we never really seen a story like that where a guy went from from not being known at all to being the face of the franchise overnight basically. And it was one of the unique parts of story. You know, and that's the part of block. I cut which I look forward to like, yes, you know, how do you decide what you cut? And I say, you cut what you knows. And I, that's one of the first things I went to because I knew he had some interesting in the interview. Romo did, and I knew that we had some new elements and and you know, with the signs and the stadium and him dating these starlets and all these elements that were really interesting and neat that I knew people would remember or at least be interested in. And so that was one of the probably two or three most unique parts of his story. So yeah, we, we wanted to blow that out. And I think we we started. That was one of the things I started with when we started cutting the film how much I, I'll I'll allow you and honesty perjury to brag on yourself here, how much, how, how much value this, Chris, we have the NFL films on a project like this because as you mentioned and you, you listen, you know, it's more than just, you know, you studied this, you, you know, you read about it, whatever. I'm, you literally live this as you said, you can identify. I think that's very special thing within NFL films, and that's, you know, all of the staff and employees there, I think bring that to different degrees, but this is this is your. Wheelhouse so to speak, how how much value do you bring in that you are kind of walking. As we said earlier, Tony Romo encyclopedia sorts. You can say, you know what that moment that was slept on by everybody else, but I know I know the college, but this exact thing. Well, we sort of have a, you know, even if it's not set out loud, we sort of have this IMO of letting people like who know the teams and our fans of the teams. Tell those stories. And that's a big reason why, because we, we do live these stories. You know, we have a fan of almost every team in the in the league. We have a fan of the building, and so you know, we have Seattle guy. We have a Green Bay person. We have, you know, we have all these different fans because they watch these games fans and live these moments their arm and equip to tell the stories, and you know some people before, how can you cover the team? You know objectively if you're saying it's like, well, two things about that one is, you know, I don't really think it's my job. And this is -sarily you know, I'm not a journalist that's easy way to put it. I'm just telling a story about what happened in a big part of storytelling. Filmmaking emotion, what emotions, you know, we can draw out of the audience and as a fan, you're instantly more emotional than an outsider in my mind. And so knowing, you know, the team in the story and being invested in it and and living, as you said is just it's just another, you know, additional positive to helping the film be better in the story better. So anytime you can help add emotion to story, especially from first person point of view and experience. I think it's going to make the film better and make a product better. What would you say is an example? They did not necessarily from that made this deal with the bone. You cut. I never heard that by the way that is a really impassable analogy. What would you say something that an example of. Something we had to leave out that I didn't want to take out. Is that what you mean or even something you left, but something that only Chris, we've or what not exaggerating if it's something that is an example of your expertise, you know really shining through this particular episode of football? Well, I think I would point to the Seattle preseason game because you know, I don't know that unless you were living the Cowboys at that time and let's face it. They were. They were not. You know, that was not an easy team to be a big fan of at the time. They had been struggling to find that quarterback to replace Aikman and they gone through a lot like it wasn't. It was an extreme amount of time between agent and Romo. It's just there were a lot of quarterbacks that they cycled through trying to find the next. You know, Romo Aikman. And so I just remember that Seattle game vividly coming in the next day. I didn't see that Seattle preseason game live. I did not watch live, but I remember coming in the next day and they're being a big buzz online. And this is before. Social media was a big deal that that that he had made an impact in that game. And the people there was suddenly a buzz endows and I don't in in, you know, I don't think people in New Jersey would have picked up on that story. Had they not been following Dow's media, like I was so being able to open up the Dallas paper, if you will, and seeing what people were, how much how much attention was being put on Romo after that starting Seattle. That's the kind of thing that I think can easily slip through the cracks on paper because when you're going through the log of games, if you will and you're picking out the Romo games, you know, you're probably not gonna jump on a preseason game. I mean, knowing the preseason game, I can remember getting this much attention in a football I film is the Kurt Warner film. You know, winter and green went down. So it's just it's unusual for a preseason game to have that much impact on a player's career in the entire Arkady NFL if I can say that at least the franchise. And so that's the kind of thing. I think they can slip through the cracks. And I'd like to think that maybe that's something that I went to the film. Now you're talking about, you know, cutting bone. I don't know if I don't want drift away too far, but I give you something we left out was the Tony Romo and Jason Witten bus ride like we had cut, it was in the film and lived in there for a long time. And it was just one of those things. It was just, it was a story that I felt saying we're going to expect to hear, and that's one of those things like, you know, trying to balance what people expect to see versus what they've never seen before, you know, and deciding which is more valuable. And in the end we sort of decided, all right, let's let's lose that bus ride story. And you know, at that time, if you will, to the Burlington segment, which was so good. We just didn't wanna. You know, that's fresh. Let's give people something new and look. That's one of the beauties of social media now is when we have to cut one of these scenes, we can now sort of put it out there as Bonacina bonus content, whatever you wanna call it, and they don't have to just die on the floor and never be seen. So that's just an example of some of the bone had to get cut. And then you know there's a couple of bites that you end up losing soundbites interview bites. But the bus ride story, you know, and you know, maybe maybe there's another film down the road and other football is on the other end of that bus ride that we can use that story and use it in Jason wins. Now. All right. So we'll just at the two hour long double of what you, you mentioned social media. And I think the first example of myself, something happening something maybe going viral call that just jumping on the internet. Obviously, social media to try to style information was when Teo was alleged to have committed suicide in the sixties. I vividly remember just, you know, ESPN dot com and NFL dot com and doing whatever I in school, and I was just trying to find anything good on that. I would say that the Nombi awesome. It was maybe the first thing social media playing a role in my life, but so that's that's a a role here because of the timeframe because of wins on your plate. I mean, you guys use tweets at the very end. What's? What's the difference between that and doing football is say, Bill Parcells, whoever you know, the ability to go back and I know that on. The I noticed the difference you know series, but on the America's game series that I watched on eagles. They included some, you know, some shots of different covers Phillies different blogs and things like that. Those are things that you can use when it pertains to things across recent. Yeah, I mean, you said it and again, Matt Disney or the last block of the film, which which, you know encompasses romo's broadcasting career, which is I was still early on, and that was his idea. You know, like, you know, it's, it's just a good demonstration. What the world felt about Tony Romo in the booth and not just what we thought or what you know are the show runner thought it's like, here's an example of what the world thinks so to your point. Yeah, we, we basically have more access to the rest of the world and the audience and writers and all these people in their thoughts because everybody's just putting them out there. So there is some benefit in helping to tell the story sometimes. But you know, it's also a breeding ground for criticism in all kinds of bad stuff. So you know it's got its pros and cons, but you know, we look for the pros and try to find ways to use our vantage in in, for example, like you said, those tweets where people highlighted how great Roma was right out of the blocks as an announcer, there was a lot of instances rightly so I think on Tony romo's first, playoff win, and. That was a really, really just special, very, very special window of time. The back, the back, eagles win and you guys talk about, and I think you did a great job because and they that something else. Another example of the precinct, you mentioned that you live that you knew that your hand with with how much people doubted him because he didn't have a playoff one. Those that was all listen, lean years, especially that eight year when people just that was their race car, the play against Tony Romo with you didn't have a playoff when what was was that your office? Is this show? Just how much that what does of the month off the back woman for him? Yeah, absolutely. It was definitely, you know yet. 'cause they missed the playoffs altogether? No, eight. And so the pressure was high, and I remember the in the week seventeen game that you reference before that playoff game was also against the eagles, like you said. And I remember I cut that game edited that game for Showtime inside the NFL, which we also produced the highlights for and I remember cutting that game and it being like one of the most. Fun times I've ever had editing a game for Showtime because the eagles came in and they were sort of, I would say they were favored, but I think people were expecting to win because there was this narrative that Romo couldn't win in December and January. And so you know, the odds were sort of against the Cowboys going into that game and in the Cowboys just steamrolled. I mean, it wasn't even close the week seventeen game in a lot of eagles mistake. But the Cowboys played well in that game. And I think we have Brady James was wired in that game, and I might have been the playoff game those those games together little bit again. 'cause you're playing the eagles at home back back weeks, but but one of the things I remember loving about them sort of crushing eagles to win the division and week seventeen was they didn't start doing backflips on the field. They were sort of reserved like, all right, we did the job, but we have another big job to do next week when we have to play, you know, again in the playoffs. And so that was, I would say like that was part of the narrative that we were sort of going to try to propel into spell was, was, you know he couldn't win. December January and and I was gonna. We were hoping to put that week. Seventeen game in there is what I'm getting at before the playoff game. But in the end, you know, we just had to get right to the playoff game and they wanna play off game pretty handedly. And you know, one of my main memories that game is field general's fifty six yard or sixty yard touchdown, run. It really isn't. It really sort of underscored the dominance of the previous to that game and the game before the eagles. Yeah. You mentioned this Jones and then that Monday night game and LA was great to, you know, I think about that a lot of goals and you know, I was thinking when you were describing that. I mean, obviously they prime prime time games against division rivals. We talked about the the prevalence of Seattle season games. Seattle general had this career, the start against the Panthers. You could argue his final moments, but he comes in Monday night, football giants. His first season ending injury, football, giant. I mean, this is a dude, and I guess that's my next question is what's it? I mean, it's almost like you don't. Say sneer into the skit. It's almost like this kid just takes over with him, especially with his personality. I, I don't want to death or anything, but I imagine he's one of the more charismatic people you've worked. So what's it like to, you know, I, I guess I would have played it to dancing with the sauce. DeMarcus are right. But you know, if you if you were the pro on the anthem was the stars, it would be like if you got another Santana advance or to work with is what role is he's not the usual clumpy athlete that you have been. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Oh, no, he's yeah, he's, he is one of the most charismatic, not as athletes, but people I've been around and part of that charisma is just his sort of genuine nature. Like, you know, I don't think the bite made the film, but Whitton said, you know, I talked to him for quite a long time about it, and he kept. He said, multiple times that Romo can relate to anybody, whether it's, you know, the the te'o star wide receiver, the gritty tight end and he's buddies with, or, you know, the, the guy that stumping the trash out of the quarterback room like he can relate to anybody and I and I agree like I experienced that firsthand. I'm sure Matt did to being there and Burlington like he doesn't have an air about him. I, he, he walks into a room and he's gonna in feels like he's giving you his attention. I mean, that's easiest way I can put it in and look, Jerry Jones is the same way by the way. Like when you spend time with Jerry Jones, he's gonna make you feel like he's your buddy. I mean, he's good at that and not everybody is and, and that's not just athletes. It's just, you know, some people have a different personality than others, but Romo. Yeah, charisma is is definitely the word and. Ability is the other word. That's what you know multiple people in the building seen the film, you, let's say, aren't necessarily Cowboys fans, aroma fan. All told me, you know, he, he's extremely like we could many more likable in this film and and he makes it a fun film because he is so so yeah, he's he's a little unique and his level of charisma and like, and it has a little bit of that too. By the way image just I've never seen a more easy going superstar than Emmett Smith, for example. But yeah, Romo is a lot of fun to be around because he is so likable and genuine and relatable. I I in a similar way the way we need. Great. You know, things go your way to answer. I think you have to have that the a superstar about couples didn't have to have some some of that that special juice. You know what I mean? Absolutely. And, and this didn't make the film. It's another one of those that got cut at one point is when we did the hard knocks on the Cowboys and that was the eight season. Again, the longtime PR man, rich down ripple. Leave a meeting with the whole team with this quote about how if you, if you don't like the spotlight and you don't wanna be front and center, you're not gonna make it as Dallas cowboy. And then in the end, he sort of give some clues in that quote, came from Tony Romo. So yeah, you hit the nail on the head like you, you can't. You can't hide when you're the quarterback Dallas Cowboys. It's just you're not gonna succeed. At least that's my opinion on it. And I think Romo would agree with you and and I think probably agrees to since he's the one that pointed out that quote something before I get to Jerry Jones, but there is a town by this very, very interesting. You're, you're your disown to offense. Acid. Acid, but Romo mentioned or hinted at, I don't even want say, hit, never talked about his face. If you times says the good Lord bless them if you different times about -bility to compartmentalize information and specifically talk about his face because how grateful he is that he's incredible life, which I think everybody can agree with Iran member years of them have been around that twenty four season. I remember he did a podcast with a local church which was really interesting in we've, we've gotten to see that side of almo- more. Is that something that team across something that he talked about something you know that you just kinda picked up on? I just think that's another interesting side of. Yeah. No, you you're exactly right? Like he, he, he demonstrated that in his interview few times. And so I did think for to make a conscious effort to sort of help relay that without belaboring it, you know, and you hit the nail on the head. Like he said, he had a God given ability to process information quickly and the near the end of the film, you know, he says something like, you know, I, you know, I don't think, but he basically made a religious reference to gratefully is to, you know, cheating this life that he's been enjoying, you know. And so, yeah, to answer question I did pick up on that in the interview, very, very much so. And was trying to find a way to to to put that in the film a little bit again without belaboring it and going to, or you know, in a religious direction. I think you did a very felt pucks in nice in in compactors. I think that was that was well, it's finessed move. Chris. And so was your your soundbites. Jerry Jones is talking about how Tony Romo is, is a ring of honor of where the caliber player and you respect me pay. Okay. He's going to be the ring of honor and Jerry. I mean that that was the superstar very just the rise now. Yes, I would put them all, but I don't wanna put us through that. What was that moment like that exact moment for you in in the in the, you know, 'cause you have to imagine you in that moment. This is this is gigantic piece not even of news just a contest for for the most valuable professional sports franchise on earth. Yeah, you're right. He the minute. He's he. He gave a really long explanation. You know about the ring of honor and tax ram created it and what it was designed to do. And that's why sort of did the follow up because I'm like, yes, jumped out at me like, well, this is a big deal. You know, he, he stating outright basically that Romo is going to be in the ring of honor. And I was just trying to confirm. That's what he's saying. And I did feel reasonably sure that that was going to be a big deal in TAOs, and I'll tell you this that I remember telling that this thing is that we're going to have to figure out what it put us in the film, and it might have to go. It's going to have to go at the end. We felt reasonably she was gonna have to go at the end. What made that by better for me is, and again, I don't wanna spoil too much, but we have the press conference from romo's five fan game against the bucks on thanksgiving. And I'm trying to give your short version except that I've been searching for the parcel anointing oil bite for a while and I couldn't. I couldn't pinpoint which game when that occurred. I was. Thought it was a mid week, press conference that he gave like on Tuesdays when he would do the phone call with the met with the press or early in the week. But anyway, I had a hard time here for a while and I finally found it written somewhere that it was after that thanksgiving game when he threw five touchdowns. And so I went through both of those post game, press conference, Romo in parcels, and I had forgotten about the ring of honor bit where the fans playfully hung name in the ring of honor. Like I completely forgotten about that, for example, right well, and that and that's just it. Just I stumbled onto that going through that press conference, the anointing oil presser with parcels, and and meanwhile Romo was wearing Burlington shirt. So it was just one of those almost happy accidents where I'm trying to find one thing and stumbled on to great things which is Rama wearing Burlington. Sure it after we just lived with him for a full block and Burlington and the ring of honor by somebody asks them about in the press, hey, did you see they put your name up there in the ring today? And so that's when I knew. All right. Jerry bite at the end is gonna is gonna be a big deal in my it might might be news. And now even have a better reason to put in there, which is, you know, basically I was eleven years before this. This Jerry Jones interview. Somebody already asked him about it. And so in Romo basically splaine's that that'd be an honor to be in the ring of honor. And here we have Jerry Jones eleven years later basically saying it's going to happen how much do you trust the viewer to be smart enough to to call them back? I mean, I know that you're gonna person to remember something from forty minutes prior, but to connect that to say, oh, man, you know, they showed his name in the ring of honor. Oh, you know, he's talked about. I mean, how much do is the producer, how trust available do that? 'cause I mean, that's a leap of faith people. Oh, absolutely. No, that's a really good question. And it's one that I sort of wrestled with with myself and with even other producers is you know, letting letting the audience connect the dots is usually the way to go. And it certainly helps the audience feel closer to the story. And if they can connect the dots of or. Figure out that, you know, one and one is to on their own. It's better that way. What a lot of people will. You know, I think Buster Keaton some, you know, an old vaudeville guy or somebody wants to that and I and I mostly agree with it, but I'm really big on clarity like if you, if it's not clear, then you might lose people for the next. You know, x. amount of seconds a minute because they're trying to connect us. So in the Seattle threat that we talked about earlier, great example, right. If you picked up on it, that's great. But if you didn't, I, it's okay to. So we do trust the audience or I do trust the audience to sort of connect dots in some regards. But sometimes I feel the need to hang on it and pointed out even more so. But it's the short answer is it's great if they do, but there's no harm if they don't like that's sort of the way to try to produce. If you can just, you know, hocken about that game in that moment. That was. Regional stuff, Asian army buckets celebrations. That's right coincidentally against the bucks. That's it. It's amazing how these things, you know, have symmetry about them, Cowboys coats the bus misperceptions. Maybe we got a bucket, I dunno, if issue gonna indicator, we will. Right. But you mentioned shirt. And again, I want the closer just, you know, what? When did they were in different close? 'cause I mean, almost shirt wearing in that that presser is I feel like I haven't seen a quarterback that in the press conference in forever. You know what I mean? It just it. It looks like a different time. Now, it's funny say that we just did a shoot recently in, would you Pearson in a couple of people and he used it. He was talking about sort of half shirt on. They used to wear another peds, and that was the first time I thought about it and been like, wow, yeah, you never see or rarely see a guy wearing like a cut off t shirt or Schimmel underneath a shoulder pads. Now it's all like compression gear. Technologically Vance stuff. So there is there is an interesting element to how not just like the logos and the colors and the jersey Jane, but the entire in not just the helmets or the the shoulder pads, change the clean, but even even they're basically underwear strange. And you know what I mean? So that asks the nostalgia, certainly, you know, also thought this from watching it. And I remember. And just to think about that. Full disclosure. I know you're hockey. I just this past summer depending soccer that I like soccer. I know it's just I'm liking Manchester United and it's like list with the manage star players. And I feel like that. Didn't make a big deal, but because you have the head coach who is refreshing. I mean intentionally and consciously telling you not to make a big deal about the quarterback. This is through for five thanksgiving. But I mean, you know this, I am. I alone I, that never had Well, I, I, I asked Parcells about that. I said, I mean where you just do fit or were you just trying to keep them grounded or he's basically, and his answer was was, was so simple. That's why I didn't make show is he's like, no, that's just the way I felt. He only played, you know, about five games at that point. It was less than that, you know, three or four games at that point. So you can't annointment guy after four games success. So and I think he's mostly right, but what I think is also true. I mean, this is just my opinion. You know, he's not saying is, I think he enjoyed Parcells enjoyed Romo a lot and enjoy his, not just his, you know success and and you know, having lead his teams, the quarterback, but I think he enjoyed romo's personality enjoyed being around, and and I. Romo with the same way. And he said that he loved playing for parcels, and I think Parcells really enjoyed coaching. So I think it was it was sort of in my mind again, just an opinion. I think it was partly a, excuse me. It was probably Parcells saying, look, let's not go overboard here. He's played four games, see my false cliff tomorrow, but I think part was he loves playing with the media and he loves her almost. So he could take a couple of little, you know, playful shots Romo and not feel like he was beating the kid up and we're going to ruin his career. It's, it's definitely I think about, you know, now Andy Reid was telling us, hey, you know, relax on this this homes because it's been cool. Everybody, you know, there's no need to freak out and you know, just it's interesting to consider about it doesn't expensive. I'm happy that there was such an emphasis on parcels he came across. I mean, I saw. I mean, I saw all these these films he came across really, really wise. I, I don't know if that was essentially, but really come across is old troll. And you know, people say, I all run by news the raiders game. I do some special, but I really pleased par new. He's the only one who I really truly trust in that regard. Well, parsoes I say that's the first time I think I've interviewed him ever and I and I, I've never really been around him that much even so I was really excited to go to that interview and I can tell you this parsoes wny's no producing or manufacturing, or you know, all that's real. He. I think he is wise is what I'm getting at. You know, there was no. There was no meat or desire for us to make him look smarter or wiser or anything parcel were funnier. You know what I mean? Parcells is just a great character and a great guy in a fun man to be around. And so he needed no help from us. Look wise and humorous. Before I get this stuff on the current. Dick out boys, Chris, that we can hopefully look back on in years and say out guy, we was, we were freaking out. We were over at. What without giving a question, not give away the film, what would you say are your top five Romo mow your your own personal ones? Four games, but just, you know, whatever, whatever, tickles, your fancy. See, I mean, obviously the Detroit playoff game, playoff winning Detroit at home and that whole drive, it's it's hard to argue with him going in and beaten up the eagles at home in the playoffs. I think that Tampa Bay throwing the five touchdowns against Tampa Bay is up there. Well, here's the other thing I told you about pulling those those press conferences. You know he had already started getting a, but that was definitely when I it was going back and watching all this stuff. And I figured that was really when the light switch went on because he did it on national TV like he was becoming a big deal. But that moment really did propel him into orbit with when in the national media. So I'm gonna give you the Tampa Bay game. You know, we cut from this game. We really wanted more of it in there. But first of all, it was a loss. We, we couldn't hammer at home, but that Denver game when he threw for five hundred yards against Peyton Manning, it was only time main came to to the new stadium. I thought that was very high up on the list. I think I just gave you four. I'll tell you, I'm gonna go back to six. I think that that beating the colts when the Cayman undefeated like that was another one of those holy smokes moments, we might have the quarterback, so I'm gonna go with those. But boy, I could go on and on. I mean, you know, the Atlanta, the escape, touch. Down against land when he'd beats bad? No. And in in throws a touchdown, there's just so many great moments. You know, I was thinking scream on that that that I guess it was still it was saying Louis Rams that, oh, that's Napa over his head like that play was great. So I just gave him more than ask for, but almost all those in the San Francisco game, he breaks the rib and then his Jesse Hawley and overtime, and you get to the one like all those all those add up to being some of my favorites. I can say that there's something in addition to the broken ribs things. Something he's gonna. I mean, had a pullback game either four something that he's just in the film in my person that that games already up there for people, but we'll just after I agree on the bigger. Old team because you said it earlier. That was the first man. We are really playing with house money, man, we, we have really achieved something like, you know it was. It was almost like we could lose out and we, we, we beat the colts and it was. It was certainly something special Cowboys. Chris, you know, you're your Calloway fishing out. You've got a master, you've got like a double Nassar's in in Dallas. So what do you see? What are your thoughts? Maybe what's your level of panic and just what's the temperature on. Well, right now on this cab group is I'm concerned like, I'm sure a lot of fans are, but my biggest concern is actually was Sean Lee and losing him again. 'cause I felt really strongly going into the year that they were gonna be like a top eight defense, maybe even top five and they were. They were talented enough to be that and had the right leadership to do that. And I think they were demonstrating that until sure on league got hurt last week, and it was they were markedly different defense just like they were last year when you got her when she came out of that game against the Atta last week, it was. It was noticeable and it and it was. It was a little disturbing not to start. It was just a little shocking to see the difference with without him. It was just a reminder that that difference I should say. So you know, we, we had our concerns about the offense going into last week, but I felt like they can still run the ball and they still have a very strong defence. So they're gonna. They're gonna keep them in these games. Now I'm really concerned like I don't know how much how much I'm worried about the defense succeeding without without Sean Lee out there, and they're going to be. Defense going to be put to the test against Detroit this week. Now offense, they got some issues, you know, and going into the year, I was concerned that we wouldn't know any more about deck because the targets he's he's having a hit and he doesn't have a real go to target or a real dominant target to go to. Then when Frederick went down, that's when it became a real worry for me like, all right, you suddenly he doesn't have any targets and his protection just got significantly, you know hindered. So. I, I'm a little concern as panicked time. Not yet, you know, they're, they're wanting to if you go out and beat Detroit this week or suddenly back at five hundred, you have the momentum again. And so that doesn't make all the other problems go away that I just laid out. But when you know cares oil. So just win this one. Like they always say, right, it sounds like a cliche, but you gotta take it one game at a time, and it really is the truth. And they go out when this when everybody can feel a little bit better for at least a couple of days. But you know, we gotta see, we got that is going to have to win some games on his own if you will. I always hate that that notion that a player wins the game. I'm self, but he's gonna have to do more for them to win. Then he's done so far and hopefully he's got it in them and hopefully they can keep him upright and hopefully keep her on the ball well and hopefully the loss of Sean Lee for however long that turns out to be won't be as devastating, and I'm afraid of might be, I think you tied to really pretty well on. That's a, that's a good looking like a lush vote. And and you know, I, I think at the time people down on the late in van, but I think right now with Sean gotta think everyone's kind of breathing with them a little nervous. Obviously my family's absence, but you know, having having Vandross Macy breeze just a bit easier. Knowing you at least have an answer. I agree that that God has to do some not you know, gave these fair to say this don't, but I mean that narrative is there that never creeping. I mean, you know, if you can't handle the spotlight to be in the quarterback hours terribles for it's gonna be another thing. This with you before, but I wanna now because it is so interesting that the Romo of football is is coming out. Now when that seems to be struggling. I'm a firm believer in decide the, you know, and I know maybe new believe this more than anybody else. You know, people love to say or Jimmy who they want. They want four in a row, and I mean, it's certainly believable, but the best thing about that argument in sports histories, you cannot disprove it. You can't true that that would not have happened. And so I think that Romo has injured that sort of zone if you will. Because the last version people saw and was two thousand fourteen and he's talking about that in in the Salem about how he felt like it really crystal watch for him because that was the last full season twenty fifteen has the magnificent comeback in season opener against the giants. He goes down against the eagles. He comes back against the dolphins and kinda hero the them, and then it gets hard against the painters. Any never start another game ever again. So I feel like. In many people's minds of the masses mine. He's still that twenty fourteen guy. You know, that's that's the version of him that that will live forever and you cannot disprove the same. You can't prove the Cowboys one of one, three or four in a row, whatever. And so you know, you think about that. That's even I think in arguably his best one. And so anytime the Prescott struggles, he is immediately compared to the greatest season that the most the typically successful quarterback in the history of the fantasizes ever had. And so you know, I just find that really fascinating. I don't know if you agree, maybe I'm completely wrong. Well, I'll say there's somebody that's all the film yesterday, an emailed me and said, they think this film is gonna make people long for the blurred as Romo to make it harder on deck, at least for the next couple of weeks. Now, I don't know if that's true, but it's an interesting point and people are definitely going to start pointing to, you know, what would what would they be doing right now and look, like you said, there's just no way to know. Now, I do kinda wonder when he. He's been the difference in these in these games that without without a Dominic target and with with a Paseo line and with the defensive smell hobble like, I do wonder about that a little bit, but you know, I don't go down the rabbit hole too often on these new series. Like I'll give you an example when we did the interviews, I'm trying to remember who it was. John. John Taylor said, Romo doesn't drop the snap in six Seattle, then he enjoyed Taylor thinks parcels not retire that year. He was stay for another year. Let's say, 'cause I wanna play off game and continues to see. And then he also thinks part of his theory is if they win that game, parsoes doesn't retire in the next year and seven. He would've never Parcells would have never allowed Romo to go on that trip. And then he thinks they would have won that game too. And so he basically thinks that that job snap signaled bigger problems for the Cowboys and people wanting knowledge, and that's a great teary, you know, and and I love it and it's certainly something you can ride around now, is you this. To your point. So that's what makes it a great theory. So you can always do these what, if and had a lot of fun with it. I do kinda wonder what, what would the difference be with with Romo right now as opposed to deck, but I'm still a believer. I still think he's a good quarterback. I still think he can succeed and lead them wherever they wanna go. But like I said, we need to see a little more right now because he's he's asked to do a lot more right now. I don't know that even Romo could be overcoming issues that we're seeing the last couple of weeks. If I, if I asked you if I gave a responsibility which again, you have within your view, Commissioner is gone. The Commissioner vice all the rules for the. If I hard with giving for the Cowboys record at the end of the season they won into now you got thirteen games to work with. What are you doing. Boy, that's a tough question. Well, let me say this. I think they can beat Detroit and Detroit's coming off an awfully big high, be Patricia Heaton his former team in the New England, Patriots. So I think in appointing the cabinet plan home, so I feel like they can do this now. I always get a little queasy with Detroit ever since the Bobby carpenter game when they race by twenty one point lead. So that's always in the back of my head. And the next time they play Calvin Johnson at a monster game and had to blow up on the sideline. So I always get a little a little queasy about them. But let's let's hope they race a lot of those demons, the lines demons with that drive in the playoffs. So I very much think they can win this one. I think they can go to Houston and win that one. I think they can be Jacksonville at home. So there's there's no reason they can't win. You know all three of the next three, at least to the next three. And then you're like I said, you're right back on track. So you know you're asking me what the final record would be. I don't feel great about it as we sit here after the Seattle. Awesome. I be hard pressed to give them more than eight wins, but it's totally realistic. My mind, especially, you know if we can come back before the by, which I know you're, you heard fear. I just that you think that's when he's gonna come back after the bye so hopefully they can get him back and I don't know. I haven't heard an update on Frederick, but my understanding is it's still, you know nothing chain, but if they can get these pieces back in place and not being shambles when it happens, you know they, they got shot to stay in this thing. So I I'd say right now if I had to guess, I'd say you're looking at about an eight win season, but they're only piece of two away from from being right back and you know, in control their own destiny if you will and being a change to playoff team. I agree. I think you're right about eight went Mark and you're kind of playing jump rope, but two more two more Winston more losses, right? Kind of seeing how that goes into the point. We may early you, you know, these games, especially these rules and flies whatever. They come down to such breaks, you know. And if you're on the right side of that, break them, the wing counts, I mean, and those are always those are the ones that buffalo game, you know. And that's, that's what it takes. You gotta steal game. You've two games. You're not supposed to win. That's what you know. And that's I felt like twenty fourteen had. I think about when they fell down twenty one, nothing in Saint Louis. They stole that. You know, they had no business when that game. So it's gonna take some that then take some. We just gotta. We gotta start being thieves, Chris. You know, the last couple of times you've come on July, just appreciate it and soak it up so much always. Fantastic. And you've always see something we've had a new sort of the teas choice that we got. Jerry got Romo. So even if it's not balanced Cowboys, let's just give us a tease. You have had a master at this at this point. Boy, I'm struggling because the project I'm working on, I'm not really liberty to talk about, so that might be the best I can do to tease, but I can tell you this. I'm working on something really, really exciting right now, and I and I can't wait to tell the world about it, but I just can't do it yet, but I can tell you this much about, I just got back from Dallas about a week ago where we did a a handful of shoot with a lot of Kabylie blessings. And so you know, at some point, maybe come back on and tell you more about it when I can reveal what that's all about. We'll be sure to circle back to support your brain at that time. Crystal river NFL films, producer store, narrow, one of the finest Dallas town was fan. You'll find. On both sides of the Mississippi where I'm both over. So thanks a lot. Thanks so much time, and I know people are going to join the film. The hard work is very apparent. I'm just, I'm gonna be on my favorite one. You've ever well, thanks very much. Appreciate the kind words and love coming on the show. Thanks for Jay. Only get down dummy. Want to get out.

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Trumps Trial, Tony Romo For Hire, and the Legacy of Stuart Scott | The Press Box

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Trumps Trial, Tony Romo For Hire, and the Legacy of Stuart Scott | The Press Box

"Hey It's was Kelly. Welcome to the ringer. PODCAST network. Winging it with Vince Carter and Anthon Berg is back in full swing for its second season catch up. On recent episodes words with guests like Wycliffe John who talks about growing up in Haiti hip hop as a teacher and performing with a goat. And you can hear from Tennessee. non-cocoa Gov on beating Venus Williams at fifteen fifteen years old. You can listen to winging it on apple spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. David among the pieces of evidence presented this week by Rudy. Giuliani associate left. Parnassus was a note he had scribbled on on a Ritz Carlton Stationary from the Ritz Carlton. In Vienna what I want to know is if you're writing a seemingly incriminating note so what would you choose to write it on what Napkin I mean. Just what anything in year yeah. I think anything super stationary. Now I was GONNA say Belly Sandwich shop down. The street does not have Brandon Napkin. As far as I know although those Toros Toros I believe that that would be leader in the clubhouse right now Dang I let's see I mean to if I want to be real here and obviously that's the point of the press box and the second in general. The answer's probably either my hand. You still do that well. If there's a pin available that's usually the big. That's usually what you know the the barrier right there. I went to high school with you. And you didn't even write notes on your hand in highschool developed later in life. Sorry I I had no idea. Probably if I was gonNA write something incriminating I would I would open up the notes APP on my phone and Right's right right right something incredibly important and and I guess by definition incriminating and then I would immediately forget and never look at that that note again. David's evernote account has been turned over to the to the Democrats in the house. We're the back of the envelope of media podcasts. Isn't the press box. Part of the Ringer podcast network. Hello Media Consumers Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker. Here we got lots and lots to get through today. We'll talk about the bidding war that's coming for. NFL Announcer Tony Romo between Wean. CBS ESPN at this point. Probably even Turner Classic Movies. We'll talk about the legacy of sportscenter. Anchor extraordinaire Stuart Scott. We'll talk about a good surprises and bad surprises. That happened on live. TV plus the overworked twitter joke of the week. But David got to begin with Lev Parnis. Who feels like the most again? But David we have to begin with Lev Parnassus. Who feels like the most interesting person in the world right now? Parnassus is of course. The Rudy Giuliani associate. WHO's become a central figure in impeachment and now these Senate trial of Donald Trump on Tuesday house Democrats kratz released photos text messages and documents? The detailed Arneses work with Giuliani and Ukrainian officials among them. This letter Giuliani wrote to Volodimir. Alinsky Ukraine's president-elect it begins like this in my capacity as personal counsel to Donald Trump and with his knowledge and consent sent. I request a meeting with you. There was also a note scribbled bipartisan Ritz Carlton Stationary. I Know David when you make your to do lists. Yes you always use Ritz Carlton Stationary that one read gets alinsky to announce that the Biden case will be investigated pretty cut and dry on Wednesday night and interview with Rachel Maddow Aparna said the biggest inaccuracy or lie was that president trump didn't know he was trying to dig dig up dirt to aid trump. Listen up when you say that the president knew about your movements in what you're doing are you saying specifically specifically. I want to sort of drill down on that. The president was aware that you and Mr Giuliani. We're working on this effort in Ukraine to basically try to hurt Joe Biden's political career. Where he was he was all about Joe Biden Onto Biden and Also Rudy had something with the manafort stuff The black bludger. That was another thing that they were looking into but it was never about Corruption was never it was strictly about The burris Salaam which included onto Biden. Joe Biden. PARNIS would repeat that same charge in an interview with the New York Times. David we can talk about what this is going to mean for. Trump's senate trial. Oh but I kind of want ask a general question I is. Wow what did you make of all of this coming out right right now. Yeah you know just I mean in a way here. Let me answer my own question. We're using them. As I was by the sequencing of this that we we all decided like weeks ago a lot of US decided that Donald trump definitely did this stuff. And then now you get this super incriminating evidence almost after the fact and almost feel of anything. It's it has less impact now because it's coming out at this point in the whole saga if if you're if you're if you're apt to be skeptical you're inclined to be skeptical about any of this stuff The rollout I think Linda itself to that predisposition. You Know Rachel Maddow's done some incredibly valuable things in his very talented at what she does I was a little I mean just from the very beginning her I mean obviously the Washington Post and the New York Times subsequently had big pieces on this but when she sort of was like owning the story earlier this week you had to sort of wonder if this is actually like the either the most the wildest thing that happened in the trump presidency or just like some stuff that's being gussied up to make our moms watching MSNBC Mad But it does seem to be. It does seem to be the former right. I mean this has seemed to be like all the true and legitimate and there are questions about the like you said about the the sequencing. uh-huh why it's coming out now and it really does seem to have just sort of snowballed in the I feel like it was. It was just the beginning of this week that I felt like I know his name started. Inching going back into the news and it would they were just sort of it was sort of in the in the context of vague questions of what he might. Have you know if the if he might be allowed to offer what evidence he has and if he'll be accepted by you know the by the Democrats in their impeachment effort and then it just sort of all tumbled out right it does seem incredibly incriminating And it and you know the sequencing right throws into question mainly because it does seem. So it's such like a a note for note. Sort of checklist of incrimination. A of of trump and Giuliani right. I mean it's almost the most the most The thing about it that makes it more. It makes you more skeptical. The goal is just how kind of precise and on composting. The the these accusations are I totally agree and in I guess I guess when I say sequencing wincing I'm not really talking about it in a raises questions kind of way of why we're learning this now just just in terms of how Donald Trump's conduct with Ukraine has kind of changed and and you know I don't know what the word is but just how it's kind of come to lodge in our minds like I I feel of this stuff had come out one week after we read that initial read out of his phone call was Alinsky. It would've been like. Oh my gosh. Wow this is so damning but what happened is it came out after like months of the readout of the phone. Call trump basically kind of confirming all the allegations in an unscripted comments to the media. So then it comes out now and it's actually this. This feels like a key piece of evidence but because it's after sure he's already been impeached in the house and because after we know so much I don't know it's just it's impact startling as it is feels like it was diminished. A little bit But it still incredible and you're right. There is something striking about his like. Is there a piece of paper that exists that lays he's out exactly what Donald Trump is charged with by one of his alleged henchmen. Yes there is. There's even this is my favorite ever touch that Ritz Carlton memo. There's even an asterisk before you know making. Yeah when you're making to do list and you WanNa make sure that the items are kind of denoted right so so we're going to get. It inevitably mounts the investigation. Then pick up my dry cleaning right do do I need a new router order from my computer I just love that. I know inevitably all the items ended up getting started. And then you're kind of back to the beginning it's like the snatches version of a to do list Yeah it's It's it's just sort of unbelievable Now before the Democrats and and you know just the people who are inclined to you know wish the president would be removed from office. Get out too far ahead of ourselves or theirselves or overseas. He's or whatever you WANNA say You know many wise people have pointed out one party is not necessarily going to be even. If he's telling the truth it's not necessarily going to be the most believable person when when Call to testify if indeed. He is even information that he's presented may not be taken at face value into Just from practical point of view I forgot who said this on twitter but it's You know worth worth repeating. Is that the Democrats you know. Even with even with testimony and evidence this damning if it proves out Are you know need. Be careful not Not to exaggerate not to Claim anything that's not completely nailed down because any any any evidence of You know exaggeration or any confusion. Any any misstatement of fact is going to be. Just that's going to become the entire story no no matter how despite how you know like like we said how exhaustive some of this all this All this information is yeah becomes. Insert fake news tweet uh-huh and then were or certa trapped in a vicious cycle. I think just in terms of short-term trump's trial in the senate this this will just just this feels like it will only put pressure on the Senate to call witnesses. You know there'd been this question of. Are we just going to consider what the House did. What the House is presented us with or are we going to potentially put John Bolton in there to testify and just the sense whether it's Parnassus? Specific allegations allegations are not it. Just I think it sort of tells the American public. There's more to learn here. We don't know everything there is to learn and we all we already knew that trump was not being helpful with the investigation. But I think it puts in the public mind that there's more to learn here and in this group of senators that has talked. You know that really wants to. I think make McConnell it. least take a vote on this Susan Collins Lisa Murkowski Mitt Romney Lamar Alexander that. Just sort of cinches in their mind that there's more here to do right and I think in the short-term that's the most useful part I WANNA ask you about some of the ceremony around impeachment. Did you catch the pictures of the footage of the eight impeachment managers walking the articles of impeachment from the House to the Senate. Yes yesterday and then we've got John Roberts is going to be brought into preside on stuff. I was just thinking. This is one of those times at news. Anchors always use. They're a very solemn ceremony very salaam moment of politics what what's happened to solemn ceremonies in the age of trump. Do they just seem ridiculous list. Now because trump has just changed the national tone to insult comedy I mean on the one hand it should it should be even more solemn alum it should feel even more important. My Gosh despite this president who's just ranting and raving and insulting people now. The business government takes over the constitution takes over but actually to me it it feels if anything feels diminished like this is. This is silly and trump's just going to ignore all this stuff anyway. Yeah I mean I mean you couldn't help watch it not saying that they're trying to make a play for you know the TV audience just like the President does at times right. I mean there's sort of like fighting a PR battle Roland. As opposed to Invoking he kind of real solemnity so it's I'm not sure that there's A. There's a better way to do it. I mean I think in some ways you do after disorder taking seriously and have a little bit of a business as usual attitudes the only way kind of to get through this. The situation To put a generally but But Yeah I mean the whole presentation just did a little bit unnecessary terms of the two thousand twenty campaign. This is going to call four of the candidates back to the Senate Elizabeth Warren Bernie Sanders. Amy Klobuchar they are and also Michael Bennett. Who is still apparently running for president and somewhere another? Do you think that's GonNa have any practical value. I mean this is the time normally when those people would just be camping out in Iowa because it's the especially worn in sanders just desperately trying to win an Iowa closure to I guess for that matter button. Is this going to. Do you change the trajectory of the race in anyway. I mean it's it it definitely puts a focus back on trump in impeachment and You know there would. There were times throughout there've been times throughout the primary campaign where we all I think everybody you you Especially those a lot of democratic voters are have been begging the conversation me more about the president unless about these you know sometimes microscopic the differences between the candidates who are running for the nomination Like in some ways we've kind of were at the other end of the spectrum. Now I'm not. I'm not sure I think for some people that will certainly hone hone that message. The anti trump message if. That's if that's the argument they WANNA make but I do think in it. It forces it forces a sort of change of narrative. Right I mean it's it's going to reconfigure the campaign and you know even though it still Democrat versus Democrat at this point It's hard to imagine especially if any of this apartment pans out. I mean if if if the if the impeachment trial we'll take a turn then that's going to be all that anyone's talking about and then and then the you know in the primary campaign they're either going and a half to be solely discussing that and I guess competing over who can test his trump the loudest or they're going to be making or which is more likely they're going to keep on debating sitting and debating over things that like the American public literally doesn't care about right now. So that's exactly the point. Nate silver made. I think you are absolutely right. Because the biggest effect it does not those people being not being on the ground in Iowa. It's at the media's just paying attention to different stuff media's not paying attention to the campaign and the media's paying attention to impeachment so the the conversations a how're you going to run around talking about how to pay for Medicare for all when everybody just wants to talk about the trial of Donald Trump And I don't know that. Just GonNa put everything on hold because it's not like any of these candidates you and I've talked about this after the various debates not like any of these kids have particularly differing opinions on what to do about Donald Trump. I think we all probably remove him from office at this point at least a major ones but it will just I think force people kind of into impeachment zone and it really does. Doesn't it bring out the age old question of how to beat Donald Trump. If you're the Democrats are you going to L. Lean into corruption etcetera etcetera or. Do you feel that's the mistake. Hillary Clinton made and the path to victory is just healthcare. JOBS ROBS taxes red meat or blue meet. I guess democratic issues and anything about this just going to get us distracted away from how we actually win votes in the Midwest Yeah I I that's a great question I think you know obviously for for Nancy Pelosi and and and again. We're we'RE GONNA keep talking about this because the tick tock kind of how this misinformation came to the you know came to the public's eye and came to the you know the Congress People's Congress persons is Is is going to be significant it. I'm not sure if that had anything directly to do with Nancy Pelosi's calculus but it wouldn't surprise me if it did All that is to say. Say The you know the kind of backstage argument that we keep that we keep hearing about an alluding to was. You Know Nancy Pelosi's calculus about whether or not Whether it was even worse trying to impeach trump on a public stage as opposed to just sort of. Let it concentrating on winning the election. Ray and for for in for all of the anti-trump cinnamon all these candidates have expressed and for all the most of them have said that he should be impeached. Removed from office They're implicitly running on the other side right. I mean the existing there despite what they say. They're they're they. Are you know they are the the examples one through six however many are let out of like you know about how how he can go about removing trump by just voting out of office right. I mean these people who are trying to remove him that way so You know I think that it's going to. I think that they're going to have to. They're they're going to have to wrestle with this. Yeah I mean it it. It is a sort of implicit conflict. Even if they're even if they fully believe that he should be removed from office you know and and the more they talk about impeachment. The lesser kind of making a proactive case for their own candidacies Aziz. David it's time now for the over. Were twitter joke of the week where we celebrate a gag. There was so obvious that all of media twitter made it at exactly the same time. Please send your nominees to at the press box. pod were they are always gratefully received. As a result of this week's revelations there was a kind of side story we didn't even touch on was it whether Ukraine Ukraine and this is from Arneses text messages was actually following a former ambassador. Marie Ivanovich was just incredible. There was some. I'm kind of surveillance going on Ukraine is now opening an investigation to see whether Giuliani's associates were participating. Possibly in some effort to surveil her. It was over twitter job to write. Giuliani finally got Ukraine to open an investigation. Right one. Thanks to Jam Dad ad for that David. You'll appreciate. This is an art director before. Tuesday night's debate the New York Times. Our Department made one of those graphics were were they basically have head to toe shots of the six Democrats and the debate all against a single color background kind of looking out at the viewer. Were there from your computer screen. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah it was an overworked twitter joked to right. Is this weezer. Thanks to Tim. Samson Finally there is billionaire presidential candidate. Tom Steyer dock Wednesday about steer inserting himself into that tents. post-debate Conversation Between Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. Well we got an audio of that encounter this week in style can be heard uttering this. I don't WanNa get in the middle. I just WANNA say hi Bernie. It was an overweight twitter joke to write never ever in my life. Did I think I would relate to Tom Style this much. Thanks David Bertie. If you found the idea of Tom Steiner being relatable to other humans inherently funny congrats. You made the overwork twitter better job of the week. David the notebook dump. I want to start with Tony. Romo he's going to call Sunday's AFC championship game on CBS. He S with Jim Nance. But Tony Romo's contract runs out after the season and Michael McCarthy Over Front Office sports reports at ESPN is is reading an offer to steal away Romo from CBS. It's a multi year deal. McCarthy writes it would pay Romo between ten and fourteen eighteen million dollars who annually according to sources ten and fourteen million dollars if if you want some context here like the big analysts on a network football eighteen. I'm like six or seven million dollars. That's where Troy Aikman much. Yahoo Al Will. Let's say he and that's the rain. That's the going rate without without knowing troy salary off the top of my head. What are you a lot of money? Honey that is a lot of money. What do you make the whole idea of paying? Tony Romo that much to steal him away away in presumably put him on Monday night. Football I mean. Listen it's hard. Ah Sitting in the seat that I'm sitting in having all the conversations that we've had any number of times to not look at that number and say With that by the two hundred and fifty journalists like when that would that would that be. I mean literally. How many to is is that just A? Is that a good estimate of the number of the people who have been let go by. ESPN in the past In the past five years it could be rehired for that amount of money. It's it's hard not. It's not hard not to immediately go there right on the flip side. You know if we're GonNA talk about the distinction between six million dollars or eight million dollars fourteen million dollars. I mean it's it in some in some sense it's funny money right or and if they have the money to spend and certainly the parent company has That much money many many many many many times over You know you go out if you go out and get your you get your dude right. I mean it's it's like you know someone like Tony. Romo is worth the amount of money that Tony Romo is going to get. And if you're and if you're not if you're not the home team to use a sports metaphor An An and if you're not right by the way if you're not running a nationally I mean if you're not running a network a weekly network television show which so presumably the prestige and be a little bit lower. You might have to pay halo more. So maybe that's just a number that they would have to pay now all of that. I mean but but all that aside it does beg the question like how many millions of dollars his of additional eyeballs of additional ad revenue of additional. However you want to quantify it would Tony Romo sitting in their Monday night? Football booth really bring Dan. I don't think it would ever bring in enough to justify the money on its own terms and I don't think that's just Tony Romo. I think you could say that about every you single announcer in the history of announcing may be a Howard cosell or John Madden to site into the familiar. Ones would be able to boost enough to cancel out their salaries but would have like a discernible effect. On the ratings. I just I can't imagine that there's just about anybody else who really does and that's the funny part of announcing right like I of all people pay attention. These people a lot like I mean when I'm watching the AFC championship game on Sunday. I'm going to be paying attention to what Tony Romo says but even if Romo is fantastic is like like at the height of his powers like he was last year at this time. Will that just increase my enjoyment of the game more than ten percent versus generic Phil Simms at the end of his run announcer guy. I don't think so so I can't imagine you. You Know Joe. Six pack from Cleveland like watching wasn't GonNa Watch an NFL game on Monday night now wanting to watch it because Tony Romo's on there and again that's not an insult to Romo. I just think I'd say the same thing about everybody announcing a game right now. Well you mentioned you mentioned men right and I think that there's no I don't think Tony Romo's at that level. I mean he's not one of the if you're retired tomorrow. I don't think he'd be in the you know the NFL announcers hall of fame or whatever but the last time you know Madden got paid. I mean when he got that the the gigantic You Know Fox sports. NFL L. Bag for Yup nineteen ninety-four You know you could have. You could argue at the time about whether or not he was worth a dollar figure that he got the he was getting paid by Fox to legitimise new operation. Right I mean he was getting he was. He was getting paid to be the face of football at a new network. And now we're used to. These rights. Packages is jumping jumping from channel to channel and kind of having to seek them out by Google search. Every time you WANNA watch a game but back then you know Fox buying the NF the rights to NFL Games. was you know kind of a shock to the system for a lot of viewers who are used to watching the exact same way every week their entire or most of lives and so that's what the value of a lot of the value are you of Madden was built into. You can kind of see a little bit of that in the ESPN pursuit of Tony. Romo because you know they. They pay a lot of money any for Monday night. Football Games that fewer and fewer people are watching every year and that have less and less significance every year. To the point. Where you'd be forgiven if you you know for a casual? NFL viewers didn't even realize game being played on Monday. And the and hiring someone like Tony Romo Or hiring only Tony Romo. I think he's the only person you can really put in that category category except for maybe you know he see Sunday night booth. That would really that would really you know be a signal of yet. We're in this game too. That's that's a good point. I would say that their audience has actually been up the last two years. I think it's I think it's totally fair to say it's a smaller place in the sports. TV Football Universe then. It was Certainly you know twenty thirty years ago absolutely. Yeah and and you're right. It is an announcement and I think that's what I think at the end of the day. There's a couple things paying announcers couple reasons. You pay announcers that kind of money one is. You're paying hundreds of millions of not billions of dollars to the NFL. So you just want the game sound good right you really want it to be. You want to be announced. Well you're going to pay all that money but the second thing is is exactly what you say. Those guys become faces of the network. And if you're in the fourth place you know. NFL broadcast booth just in terms of quality just purely in terms of quality of games pudding Romo on the areas. This is a way to say. Oh Wow that doesn't look like fourth place anymore. That looks like something else. There's also this game going on 'cause we're about to Redo all these. NFL rights steals. And there's a lot of thinking that maybe Disney wants some part of a Sunday package. They want to get back they want. They haven't been on that a long time they they would want to get some slice of Sunday football. Maybe it's a big package like. CBS's package maybe at some small thing. They also want to get in the super bowl rotation so they are signaling not just a viewers pay attention us but to the NFL. Hey We got the best guy now. Why don't what you think about us and allow us to pay you a whole bunch of money so that we get better football games and that and that makes a certain amount of sense you know the problem is all? That's going to happen after Tony Romo would probably sign contracts if you're Romo there's a scenario where you do that and Disney get back in the game and you're calling a super bowl every four years and all that stuff and maybe your maybe your portfolio game changes. There's also scenario where you're just calling Monday night. Football as it is right right now and you have some you know. Bengals Jaguars style Monday nights which wouldn't be quite as fun. The the Couple more points on Romo one is you have heard the term highest paid sports caster ever thrown around you. Can I be. Can I be the annoying in media person here that John Madden contract you mentioned nineteen ninety-four. He made eight million dollars a year. We have to adjust that that for inflation Romo is not trying to beat eight million dollars a year and the equivalent now is fourteen million dollars. Eight million in one thousand nine hundred fourteen fourteen million dollars today so. I'm not sure we should care who's number one ever. But if we do the numbers fourteen million if the people who right about movies can adjust for inflation than the people who write about sports media can adjustment flash. So that's good I'll also note. This is my favorite my favorite madden note ever actually I got two favourite madden note. Number one is that in Nineteen ninety-four. He was paid more than any player in the NFL. Right so so the real equivalent is wrote making like forty million dollars. Yeah for me leaving the room making more than he made his a quarterback. Yes us and making more than you know. Aaron Rodgers makes a quarterback right now so that that's incredible number two is when madden was being courted by three networks in nineteen ninety three hundred ninety four. NBC came to him and said here's our offer we're going to give you a bunch of money and because you don't like to fly we're going to build you a train car. This sounds like an Agatha Christie thing. But it's real. We're going to build you a train car that will carry you around in the country. That was part of the off David's recent ringer. We get renegotiation also included the offer. The carpet David David had other priorities. The the I'm actually on a train right now. Believe sound capabilities we have. These days are incredible. I thought I heard fine. China Being laid out before your your afternoon meal the Here's my other point about Tony. Romo Tony Romo is now in the point of his career where the money is so beguiling and the the free agency and we're all kind of playing WHOA JR about him. The people I think have stopped listening to Tony. Romo call again. He's the greatest. Let's give money. Here's the thing I'd say about him. When he has a wide open high-scoring offensive game like he did last week Casey versus Houston she absolutely at his best? 'cause he can wrap his arms around that telestrator and tell a great story. She's less good when he has a defensive battle. If you watch last year Super Bowl Tony Romo was not that great. Because he couldn't tell the story of the game via offensive excellence right. He couldn't do that and I think if it had been another announcer during that game they would have seen where that game was going and they would. Okay we're going to grab defensive tackle. Aaron Donald Kyle Van Noy and we're just GONNA show them every play and we are going to tell the story of this game as being defensive battle. I don't think Romo is as good at that. At this point his career he may become it. But whenever I'd be making claims that Romo is better than madden or better known as I would just say Romo's Motza really really good at one kind of game right now and I'd love to see him get better at other kind of games as he goes well. That's that kind of starts getting a bigger point. which is that you know if he SPN has to pay whatever fifth? Forty million dollars to get Tony Romo you know and they get that. I'm sure they they will see that as a victory but when the tide eventually you know it would never eventually turns on Tony. Romo which were announcers commentators in particular Romo's Romo staved off for the most part Pretty Pretty Nimbly for his career. So forth occur in the booth so far but when every when you know when we turn on him. ESPN being isn't going to be the company WHO's paying fourteen million dollars to someone who's just getting dunked on on twitter every you know every time he he he calls a game And I'm sure that's not going to on the on the spreadsheets elsewhere. In the sports media transactions column. How about Barstool all our pal? Peter Kafka who's great had a report enrico the Barstool. Yeah those guys may soon have a new owner which Kafka calls a low profile. Oh File Casino operator quote and Kafka here sources say Chairman Group which currently owns barstools in advanced talks to sell a majority stake in the company ready to Penn National Gaming which has forty one properties in nineteen states industry. Observers expect Penn national which operates such properties as the Hollywood casino in Bangor Maine in the Greek town. Casino Hotel in Detroit to places. I often take my family to adopt. Barstool the Barstool brand hand for at least some of its operation. So barstool the casino would say you ha- What did he call it a medium tier what was that it was a low profile casino? Operator later okay. Sorry for getting that wrong First things first to all the low profile casino operators out there David shoemakers bank account is open for for business. US Yeah I mean. It's it's a little bit. I mean. Listen it's an easy punch line It's an easy the joke to make. Although you know with all of the money casinos make particularly in the new age of sports betting It's not surprising that I mean that. Even someone who has a gambling effort that we might not be you know wildly familiar with is interested in bidding for. You know what you know what seems to be a very profitable Website and Internet presence in the kind of sports media world Barstool seems like sort of a natural fit. And you know they're gonNA get as much money from whoever ends up you know we auburn's a buying from buying them then they would get from whoever you perceive to be the big players that would have been more. That would have been a you. Know a more expected match There Tony Romo is not yes exactly. I just you know I mean we can talk about the journalistic analysts integrity or you know the ethics of this sort of pairing or whatever else. I'm not sure that it's really worth wasting our breath this is this is a I mean for Barstool in particular. I'm not sure that this would come as any kind of this. Pairing comes comes any kind of shock. you know. They're already testing out. I mean we're we're already have a bunch of gambling content. I mean the ringer has gambling content to but they have you know but Barstool is definitely already making pushing this direction and You know this is not something we didn't you know we serious journalists should be proud of it but this is this may be you know the direction action a lot of a lot of places like we're going right. I didn't know you were GONNA brought it out that we're all going to be owned by low profile casino operators at some point. Listen if if the ring if the ringer you got bought it probably by a low-profile Casino Casino operator to if we got bought by a casino operator much I mean who knows maybe maybe the maybe we bought out by draft kings or something. I don't know but it's not. I mean you know working on working with very different very different degrees of of of wealth and our in our respective ledgers. Here this is a it's a it's a sort of frightening new world I am not. I don't think we're all going to be owned by casinos xenos anytime soon but you know we talk a whole lot about about outlets going under and journalists losing their jobs. You know the fact that money's coming back in the other direction even even such as it is in. This story is a you know it's something I don't really know I don't really know what the end of that sentences. You were joking earlier when you said My. DM's ems are open if there's any casinos out there if the press box sold itself as a branding vehicle don't you think our our highest upside would be the new stand at at the airport when you walk into the airport. You see the new stain your like. I wasn't totally sure that that magazine or newspaper was still publishing and yet he yes. The brand name of the newsstand. Yeah I kinda think we could be competitive in that space. Oh Yeah Fleas. I mean you know what's more valuable than airport. Newsstand me if you when you when you get to the airport and you realize you like you know left her novel at home. There's only one option. You gotta go in there you gotta you gotTa to buy your trail mix and you're like US news and World Report or whatever. gummy peaches man. That's that's I'm I'm I'm in I'm Adam Nutter butters give me through the flight. Let's one more transaction. David that's House of highlights. Oh Yeah 'cause over and variety there's a piece say. ESPN has signed another free agent. Not Romo not a broadcast or not a writer but twenty five year old Oma Raja who created House of highlights. Brian Steinberg writes. Raja's game is figuring out how to get sports fans chatting about liking and passing along the video clips he makes top athletes and plays and that may be the skill most in demand. ESPN perhaps in the TV industry at large in a future likely to be dominated by new video watching behaviors comes from bleacher report. His instagram has fifteen million followers and Steinberg says he will serve as the main voice of ESPN sportscenter instagram account. What do you make of that move by? Espn we talked to them. Before I think when these rumors I started floating around. I mean this is sort of this. Is You know. There's this kind of it. Big Variety story about this. And and you know he's officially been signed by. ESPN servings job. I mean it makes a lot of sense for ESPN And it certainly makes a Lotta sense for for Raja's You know been incredibly successful thus far in his career and According waiting to you know this piece according to Russia he's Kinda still just doing the same thing he's always been doing this for coaling cool clips for the people are going to enjoy to to watch enjoy watching but he's doing over the SPN now There's also a quote in the pieces as ESPN EXP- AIRSPAN in expects him to help plot. The strategy for hundreds of new live programs the company's digital outlets I mean hundreds hunt. I mean in one wonders you you know. If he's fully aware of what's being I mean. Listen if he's going to be the fall guy for the failure of ESPN digital take one hundred or whatever then. I'm sure he's getting paid well enough to to do that. The Guy But you know and honestly he is in in a very specific In a very real weigh-in in new media he is he made it. He is the best there is at what he does right. I mean they're I mean he's he's been incredibly successful what he does so far how that translates did not just the creation of one hundred new. TV show which is a lot to think about but how that translates into just the ESPN boardroom. You know is an open question and Yes and we will I. I mean I guess it remains to be seen I mean there's you know I don't think he's a I mean I presume. They're going to give them some runway. And you you know GonNa find out really what he has to offer because because he I'm sure he has a lot to offer a company like ESPN but as we've seen before you kind of higher company with this kind with much institutional legacy as ESPN. It's not always the easiest fit to hire someone who's just sort of working in their own vertical and trying to like subtly affect act everything else. That's already going on so You know best select the guy and and good for ESPN for hiring the biggest name in the in the you know in a in a area of need But what yeah. We'll see what happens. There's been a couple of stages I feel of. ESPN evolution. One is them kind of subtly the not so subtly going post text you had that generation of print guys who really ran allow the network Vince. Doria John Walsh John. Skipper leave the network writers getting laid off. You mentioned that that felt like one stage and then I think the next stage is at some point. And maybe it's a long time. Hi from now. Maybe it's tomorrow is not only post text but post TV. And what do we do. You know what is. ESPN in that universe divers so this just strikes me as like this is like this is the guy that's going to help us figure it out and maybe we don't have the answer right now but the maybe the answer is hundreds of TV shows is ESPN even have a hundred shows. Currently it's a Lotta shows hundreds of TV shows but may eight and this is the guy who and maybe it's not a show right. It's like some product. Here's a three minute something or other. Here's a thirty-seven center. And he figures out for sure it's really players can and if you're those guys you want people like that in your literal or figurative boardroom. Helping you think through that stuff. Yes absolutely what me I was GonNa say I was GONNA say that won't be the last time that his name comes up on this podcast for sure But it very well may become I mean we we may spend more time talking about what the shape of content looks like. I'm sure we will shape. Shape of content. Looks like over the next year or two years six months. Even you know I mean it's it's a it's GonNa be a whole different landscape especially for for a company like a like. ESPN that you know has a lot of different audiences Accessing once a little bit about Stuart Scott David David please. This month marks the five year anniversary of the death of the former sportscenter anchor. I've got an oral history of his life and death on the ringer right now. How fantastic thank you so much? We can't talk about Scott without hearing sue Scott Right. It's a stupid. You have to hear him to understand. Understand him to appreciate him so here. He is in two thousand six doing highlights from Kobe. Bryant's eighty one point game. I'll just there's let this run for awhile. Enjoy the last time. They met Kobe Bryant in season. Eleven point second quarter Chris Backdoor Kobe. Who just he'll sit the the? Kobe leads the League scoring thirty. Four point eight points per game Lakers down. Fourteen and recess second half of Kobe. Bryant went off command center. This is kangaroo boxer requesting requesting permission to fire kangaroo box permission granted seven of thirteen from three lead late third quarter Colby House up another three in this about to get silly. It's his thirteen forty point game. This year third quarter bunny would've but DUCA dunk his fifty point game. This season tie wanting down the third lamar own of Wide Open Kobe. Who rocks the Ram Lakers up? Four now fourth quarter Mrs just just straight silliness. Kobe Bryant first player since Jordan and eighty seven to sixty point games in one season but early this season he had like sixty two and then sat the fourth quarter on the line with sixty two. There's Kobe's new career high sixty three later in the core Lakers owner Jerry. Buss said quote when you're watching and it's like a miracle unfolding in front of your eyes and you can't accept that somehow the brain doesn't work copay got it out. That's a couple things. One Roy Williams coach over the University of North Carolina. Thome home is I. Don't I didn't even put it in the oral history. But he said this to me which I thought was so great when you when you think of Stuart Scott you smile and when you hear Stuart Scott's voice voice do highlights it is impossible not to smile is impossible like he was that his enjoyment. You heard it there at the end Kobe Kobe. Bryant is. He's the guy who was like. I can't wait to tell you about what happened in sports tonight. I am so excited because I am a fan like you. So that's number one just that enthusiasm number two there. Did you notice David that as this great and as beguiling as those catchphrases were that were sprinkled throughout that minute and change we listen to these statistics statistics and information yes just as Gaudy as the catch phrases And it a Stuart Scott Sports cast. I think gets misremembered numbered by the way by me to before I started this whole piece. Like Stuart Scott was just great at everything. He wasn't gay. Just great a catchphrase. He was great he was he understood. had a tell a story had a studded with just enough information just enough catchphrases how to put emotion into it and and again like that runs for like a minute plus ran you watch it on youtube but runs for another minute. That dude could do everything on on sports television. And that's why he's the Pantheon Level Sports REC. It's true I mean it's it's hard to find words. That don't immediately really just smack of cliche right. I mean but there's but there is a you know it's enthusiasm its authenticity. There's it's it's it sounds so silly silly to say but late you know. There's be doing doing what he did is so many people's dream job and it doesn't and he managed to make it sound like he was doing his dream job but still do it like in the most perfect way right leg. The enthusiasm was like so clear and You know his his Humanity I guess through his originality was always on always on display. But like you said it wasn't even if if we think of the catchphrases it wasn't at the expense of the actual like nuts and bolts of the job. He was excellent that too and The way that you know we we've talked about him before on the show. I mean his influences and profound and not always strictly positive you know means because a lot of people have have kind of learned isolated lessons tremend- not just the kind of lessons of excellence. But you talk to a lot of people in your piece Michael Smith You know is one of the big voices in there Who Talk about the level of the amount of inspiration that he provided for for You know viewers for up up and coming sportscasters black ones in particular and You know it's it's hard to That's just one thing that can be focused. Posted on because Stuart Scott certainly was An inspiration to everybody but but like I said it's just like for someone that embodies so many cliches as but proves them out. You know like you can use all these like just words with without any hesitation any reservation. It's just says everything you need to know about about Him as a as a man as a sportscaster. Yeah I just think when you say it does sound like a cliche to say be yourself on television. It also turns out that. That's the the hardest thing to do on. Television is beer. Some not try to sound like some guy who came before you it turns out. It's even harder when you arrive at. ESPN ESPN in Nineteen ninety-three and it's not an especially diverse company. And there's nobody. He wasn't the first black anchor on. ESPN but there's nobody that it looks and sounds like you ESPN So you're trying to be yourself and be totally different than everybody else. WHO's come before you like? That level of difficulty is incredible and the other thing to remember. Is You know I feel now if you ran into the pushback that Stuart Scott got got at ESPN. You'd say okay. This isn't working. I'M GONNA go work for this other network or I'm GONNA go beyond twitter. I'm GonNa have you know I'm going to have these other places I can go and take my take my talents to use the Lebron James Phrase then didn't really exist in the same same way you know minus a few random times that Fox tried to compete with the ESPN APP. That wasn't a possibility so when he in the nineties saying I'm like no no this is me I'm not going to change. I'm not going to not be myself on the air. He didn't have a place to go. Like you know the the place to go was you don't have a job or the place to go was go back to local television. And I think that under underlines the you know just how a profound that decision was that he made at that point in time. Yeah it's like I'll I mean you wrote it. Everyone should read this piece. It might very limited interaction with the story before it was published was as the art director and I was working with the Sean Fantasy Or steamed to boss to do some photo research and the peace and you know if you would ask me. I might have remembered a little bit of it but I basically forgotten. Just how cool he was just like looking back at old photos of him through his primary. He's like hobnobbing with celebrities. Just like cracking up on the sideline with just like the most elite athletes of the day. you know. Oh he can do his job putting the microphone in front of Paul Pierce Z.. Was Hoisting The you know the championship trophy but also just like just you. You know like I said be doubled over in laughter with with athletes that caliber at the after party. You know I mean he was just Just it's just such a huge presence And I'm so glad you did this piece. By the way that was something he was criticized for was that was that was hobnobbing with athletes at that time that was seen as as big breach in journalists subject ethics. You why are you shaking. Why are you giving these guys a hug? Where you shaking hands with these guys like there were people who said that like today? Nobody would care about that. Wouldn't even make a difference but it is an an. I didn't get into it a ton honey just in terms of space and in terms what I was focusing on but there is a really unhappy trail of Stuart Scott Clippings. In America's major newspapers members are really bad and just and again some of it was clearly coded language Some of it was just stupid. I think I somebody. WHO's at all will you know he didn't you know he was he is act- wasn't worthy of the WB network owner why he chose that example But some of it too was just just picking on him. Relentlessly like people that didn't even write about media just continually mentioning him just over over and over and over again and you know what a time capsule of the Mid Late Ninety S. The reaction to Stuart Scott is as much of anything. Let's do a little listener mail. First one comes from James Radic. We talked earlier this week about the whole idea of political K.. FEHB Kaby David for listeners. 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234: Who's the Most Famous Hockey Player You Ever Shared the Ice With? Tony Romo vs Peyton Manning

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234: Who's the Most Famous Hockey Player You Ever Shared the Ice With? Tony Romo vs Peyton Manning

"Keyboard project shelby presented by all Insurance Ontario Popeye supplements and RB computing. Welcome where every weekday we revel in sports and whatever blasting are semi inform takes into the podcast universe. Steve warned and this is this punk over. Here's Jim Jerome. Our James I very good stevie how? `Bout you good. Thanks that's good to hear blasting are takes deep. That's sort of like a play on. Who's the guy who's the guy gets all excited in his car before it goes into the ballpark reese? Mcguire Reese McGuire. Yeah so maybe think of that. When you said you know blasting our way through the day I don't know why I'm not sure why you know. I Never Know Steve. Tell the good listener. Now look the story up or I can just tell you. The Guy was pleasure himself his car. Yeah in a parking lot and stuff I mean. There's so many words in the English language that you can wish to something untoward if I was to watch my step on every word the did that in your brain. I just sit here mute. Yeah do you remember Steve? When we did. Yeah you would remember. We did a segment on the radio show called. He said she said and you had to like an old playing the dating game. You have to match the answer right with your with your wife and which can be funny which could be fine. You know so it gets and we had three questions and you would ask one and then. Jr would ask on and then you guys would say okay. Jimmy was fucker you can ask and of them was okay. Who who who arrives? I Steve You know. When you're you and your wife are doing the nasty you Steve who reaches the top of the mountain? I you know what I'm saying. Oh Yeah you know what I'm getting at here. Steve gets who gets to relax. I you know all this stuff and so it was. It was funny. It was funny but but what what was more funny of course. Are The answers right on a scale on a scale of one to ten? Does he last a long time or does is is the show over here in to it and then you'd have. We figured it out where they could be on the line right the but I don't know how the fuck we did it. But we had to mute them or whatever so they couldn't hear the answer then at the match them but but always it. Was You know this question of who get sick? I I wanNA hear this answer. You know because they got a match it you know and but what about the TV version of the same thing like you said is a newlywed game or whatever. It was the one that everybody knows. I don't know if it ever got on the air probably not But it's still exists out there on Youtube where the host basically saying is Bob Eubanks. He asked the question. Where's the most unusual place you've ever made love? She said the most unusual place that they've ever made love is well a part of her anatomy right all right very well. That's right. Yeah Yeah and not the Front Right. Not The front right. So so what was crazy is she. Did she did have. She looked at looked at him and said you know what I'm talking about hunt. Should I answer that? And he's like yeah. Yeah go ahead because he thought the answer was on the kitchen table right right. That's what he expected her to say and we know how she received at the table. So that's right that's right. She was able to watch TV while you were both. I think we get it. And he's just say yeah. Go ahead and she goes. You're the guys who probably high fiving there. They go to commercial boy. We take her down. Anyway those are those are fun. He did no doubt lots of good stuff to get to the show here How the Olympic officials in Japan now saying they might actually delay the Olympic Games. Cancel or anything like that with this whole Corona Corona virus threat. They might just say. Hey this whole little later in twenty twenty and see if the virus settles down because all they're obliged to do apparently in their contract with the IOC is to hold the Olympic Games in twenty twenty. So it's their belief that they have the option based on contract of maybe just waiting until late in the summer right now. It's July maybe September or October. Yeah any Olympic host city if they had their way. Because they're always under the gun right. Always under this timeline pressure to get get stadiums built. Get the get the Infrastructure Denver. The town that you have to. It's a horrendous undertaking. Right to get together city done and you gotta get you gotTa get it done obviously ahead of time but sometimes way ahead of time so people can come and use the you know they want to promote the events. There I remember when I was in Calgary You know and they built Olympic Park Right. The big Ski Jumping Facility and stuff and and they decided not only that. But we're going to do some pre Olympic events. Well that almost backfired. They're like wh what are we gonNA have time to set this thing up quicker than we already have two and any whole city right. What would want more time right? So there's that angle I it'd be sure your fucking move another month man. I'm wicked deadline But it soon if they're going to move it though they're gonNA have to make a call on it because so there's so many logistics whether you're talking about TV. The athletes themselves right. They they got everybody's gotTa make plans. We're not talking about you. Know an event that takes a day or two. We're talking about something where you want to be there for. The opening ceremonies the closing ceremonies the seventeen day affair. You've got to allow people who have like weeks and weeks of lead time so they're gonNA have to make a call on this pretty soon and we have no idea what the corona viruses exactly going to do in the meantime Yup. I was talking to a doctor yesterday. You know it's like the crown of viruses equivocally getting a cold or a flu or something like that and but obviously it affects other people different than most people. You know that it's it's generally not serious but now it is of course right and and what happens to it you know. I said well well. How do you know you got it? You know well you you know you get these symptoms. Of course you're going on whatever it is. I don't know how it presents itself I am and there's no vaccine for yeah. I think it's when you were breathing like we all have we have so anything that happens respiratory wise in the way of a cold or flu well of course as a standard stuff but you actually feel like you can't get enough oxygen and that's kind of the first sign right and then you're going to die right if you can't get enough oxygen. I said well what do they do? Well you know they put Jonah ventilator right away breathing apparatus rate so you can you can breathe and hopefully that will you know they can sustain that for a while so they survive you know so given that anyway given that this that would be an airborne virus. I Guess Right Steve. That is out there. I'm assuming that you get it so given that. I'm going to Olympics with people coming from all over the world I might you know. It'd be heartbreaking for you to say Fuck I wanna go I do. It's my lifelong dream. But yeah who do you know? The poor poorer organizers. The poor organizes doing this gone. Every we got everything covered. We've because you look at previous Olympics and they just get if one thing goes wrong particularly with the media if one thing goes wrong fucking get slayed the next day right well. It's all fine but it's a two hour wait to get to the venue and and the food's Shit and I'll tell you what there was no heat in the hotel and the poor people get this stuff all the time. So now everything okay. We got that covered everything. Transportation's good enough volunteers. We got enough enough rooms for athletes in Athlete's village. And all that good tick all the boxes. Sorry one more thing here. We got a virus. That's killing people. What what should we do there? 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Yeah for sure it is also while we're talking about interesting things James and I do some podcast moonlighting on a weekly basis. Podcast a new one. That's all about sends and Jim is on the suspended with former. Nhl Or Rusk ordinal course played for the Montreal Canadians in Toronto. Maple leafs the sends nation podcast. And this expendable subscribe to both shows today on your favorite podcast APP. Thought I'd get a plug in there for that as well so so Tony. Romo is rolling as an NFL broadcast right now but there is one guy who might give him a run for his money and Monday night. Football is coming hard after him. And you're asking yourself who might that guy be because Tony Romo is awesome and by the way his contracts a little more than we thought. Cbs is actually going to be paying. Tony Romo one hundred eighty million over ten years but that in perspective Roma's former Dallas quarterback of course in one thousand nine hundred nine again one hundred eighty million Jerry Jones bought the cowboys for one hundred forty million back in nineteen eighty nine. Wow that's been anyway. Well that's below the one guy lose my shit when they when I signed that contract Steve. I think you'll be all right. That kid's GonNa be alright but peyton manning is a name that still at their. Espn has reached out to Peyton manning once again just to gauge is Monday night football interest and they tried last year and failed and I guess they were offering massive money. They even had the guy who runs. Espn fly to Denver in an attempt to convince him to replace Jason Witten. I think a lot of people could replace Jason Witten. He was widely panned and then went back to play. Nfl Action Back to the Dallas cowboys last season. So apparently they were offering manning Contract with ten to twelve million dollars. GotTa think he's asking for. Romo money now if it's in fact something he wants to do well. There's two things there one is the Dole. Right is is the massive story. Of course right. It's like what what's his deal. So so everyone's lining up now Steve. Everyone is lining up. Okay when I got a reason to retire right now. Okay I'm GonNa make all do it for a million a year. Oh no no no no pal. No you're good for sixteen seventeen mill. Okay the the other thing is though Steve That is you. GotTa be careful. Okay Tony Romo comes out of left. Field Star sits in on. This thing thinks he wants to be a broadcast or give it a world knowing how humble that guys is like. I got no problem. I'll take nothing personal. I'd love to try it. You know that fits fits the bill. Right what what you WANNA have is a guy who played football played. Nfl played at a high level. And it is a half deck only and if you can talk a little bit. This'll be great. Well look after the rest. Don't worry about it. We only got gymnast got a great host. Or whoever I'LL MICHAEL. Whoever they're gonNA he saw the thing explodes right. Would they hit a home? Run with this guy absolute lottery. Okay it so now everybody else is. GonNa find someone big. Let's go get peyton manning and that's it can backfire Steve. Once in a lifetime guy comes along. I guess who's like that or not very often and you can't replace it. You know the reason it works is because of the timing because of the guy because of whatever you know four or five things that there's some luck involved with all that and but I don't know what's going to do it. It's going to be Peyton manning like we've seen enough of him in front of microphones in front of the TV camera with his commercials hilarious hosting Saturday night live hilarious hosting the SP's hilarious even the SP's of something. I thought well that might be a little bit of his wheelhouse. Might be a little stiff and that no no. He was fantastic in that as well so I would not put it past him that calling games as a color analyst that he'll be fantastic at that as well you know at least maybe even. Tony Romo's equal but one of the things that had him hesitating Jimmy. Is that his younger brother. Eli was still playing. And so he thought about okay if I have to call the New York giants game. I'm not sure I'm going to be comfortable talking about my brother and ally retired in January so the door is now wide open. Yeah well I wouldn't be comfortable easy either when my brother was shitty the last three years of his career. Well this is. I think that's what he's implying that he has to. He's GonNa have to bury his own brother and talk. You know. If he's got to be brutally honest it's not going to be an easy thing and you know his relationship obviously with his brother men more than than whatever money he'd make on Monday night football but that's now behind him. He doesn't have to talk about it now. He can burn. Any bridges was if he wants to. You know one of the stories that came out of this right was was what what's going to happen with the players when they look at this thing going. You're you're paying this guy. Forget it's Tony Romo okay. But you're paying a guy in the booth a hundred million or whatever it is over ten year hundred and eighty million. Okay on the players are gone. Don't fuck and complain to me here about about salaries we gotta keep them down and and all this shit you know like what else is going on that you're paying right. What's what's what's Jim. Nance picking months what's Collingsworth making these guys around Michael's some? That was the knee jerk reaction right. So they're using it against the owners right that the League has so much money or against the League right that they should be revenue sharing right. I think they have a bit of it in the NFL. But I understand that interesting When when you talk about the crazy money of Tony? Romo this. According to sports net notable. Nfl players that are scheduled to earn less than Tony. Romo in twenty twenty. Jj Watt is GonNa make fifteen and a half mil Odell Beckham junior fourteen Aaron Rodgers. I'm shocked only GonNa make about seven point. Two million that must be some weird quirk in his contracts and know he's making crazy money but maybe maybe some of that was bonus money or whatever that's his actual salary and PAT mahomes 2.7 meal. So we're just is it does seem out of whack and Michael Thomas of the saints we talked about in the last episode for one is not very happy about it. Why should we sign a CBA right? Now when it's clear that there's more money to be given if there's this kind of money to go to a TV guy. This guy is GonNa make ninety more than ninety percent of what players make like come on. That's ridiculous yeah I remember negotiating Steve. One of my radio deals. I always felt so eager to talk about my radio deals but they came at me and said you got no fucking experience kit. Okay you never been on the radio. So what you're trying and it wasn't exorbitant. Money I mean it was hilarious. I mean I've been in radio I know I know. Yeah so grind the Shit Audio Greenwich Shit Audience. So if you wanted to make you know seventy five grand or fifty grand. They'd say okay. We're going to give you twenty okay. We're GonNa pay you twenty grand and there's thirty thousand here up for grabs in bonuses depending on ratings. Well they're unachievable right. I remember looking at them. Go Okay if you're I in North America. What yeah you're GonNa get twenty like you know what I mean you've been there. Sure right so and they'd come and go. You got no experience right and I remember saying getting a little defense. Go wait a minute here man. I've been working for thirty years. Doing schtick and comedy and and you know I quit fucking to people laugh going Jimmy. We don't work that hard. But you do have experienced right that you can bring and so that kind of worked a little bit but conversely it's like a CFO or a right to pay law green right how to the most fantastic run ever. I don't know if he's still on or not is not. He's retired retired but remember that guy was he was the go to Guy Right. He did everything and I don't know what law mate but the reality is if Ralph Nader okay who was the consumer you know whatever critic remember Ralph Nader. I mean. He's just you know they going after this people that speak. They still might. If Ralph Nader came to us and said I WANNA do a radio show. They're gonNA fucking pay him. Five Mil never been on radio. You know and and it's and that's how this is working with with Tony Romo. So it's all about return on investment though at the end of the day and I guess they believe that to Romo will bring eyeballs. Though I think as I said in the last episode I feel like the eyeballs will be there anywhere in most cases so he maintains a big audience. He'll get all the prime games. And I think when an advertiser is faced with you know okay. I got two big games this week in the NFL. With real teams. Cbs has got one. Nbc's got the other one. I got to choose to go with that. Tony Romo one because I like that guy. He's great to listen to. I'm going to advertise with CBS. I think that's probably why you're paying that much for a guy like that because as I mentioned in the past I just don't think I'm making decisions on. What FOOTBALL GAME? I watch as a consumer as a fan of the NFL based on. Who's calling it? I don't know about you but do you. Well I tony. Romo SORTA changed for me watching football. Because he explains all of that in Layman's terms. And he's he's predicts every fucking play you don't he's so good you know. But he's doing the Green Bay Dallas game. But you've got money on Arizona Tampa Bay so you WANNA WATCH ARIZONA TAMPA Bay. You'RE NOT GONNA go. Hey Romo's on the other game I'm GonNa Watch it right right. I mean there's always that of course but what is going to happen with this. Steve is all of us. All of us have been watching hockey for years. And Ev. Everybody comes back and goes look at okay. They got remember Bob Cole Okay. People Fuckin- hacked on ball bob and he was terrific. Great Guy Highly Emotional and made a few mistakes supposed to be no no big deal but when he did he got killed. You got absolutely murder right. So what is going to happen with Tony? Romo I think is and there's guys we all do it. Come back though they gotta get rid of that guy on the broadcast the Colored Guy. You know everyone you know. Everyone looks at the panel. They always four five look at tsn their weapon guys through their left and right right doing. There's a new guy on there now. Right what this will do what this will do. Is this deal that Tony Romo's getting is GonNa change the whole world for color commentators? They're going to bone up man. You know they're going to start to. I think it may have a positive effect on all commentators. Now GonNa get better. Yeah we gotta you gotTA listen to this guy so good luck by the. I don't think I don't think practicing and preparing more. It's GonNa help whatever you help you be your best. I don't think anybody's got the background of Tony. Romo as a football player and the experience that that brings to the table plus everything else he He can deliver so I I don't. I don't think anybody's got shot except for peyton manning who we mentioned at the top. Let's finish up today with a little discussion on the New York Knicks. And we all know that there are superfan has been for a long time twenty thirty years. Now you see a Knick game usually see movie director Spike Lee with is crazy glasses down at courtside chirpin the rafts and yelling and jumping and screaming. He's basically what drake is to the Toronto Raptors. Well things have gone well between Spike Lee and the New York Knicks Lee has accused the owner of the Knicks James Dolan of harassing him and he now says he won't attend any more home games. This season after he was pulled aside after entering Madison Square Garden this week just for a game. He accused the franchise of lying saying the Dole is harassing me. And there was an incident between Lee and the Knicks staff that basically went viral on social media and it showed an agitated Spike Lee. Speaking with what appear to be security guys guards inside the arena and from lease telling anyway security guards wanted spike Lee to leave the garden walk outside the Thirty Third Street employee entrance where he came from walk outside and then come back on thirty first street where he's supposed to enter and he said. I'm not doing that right. So it's an employee entrance right so they must be security guys there and says hey you got to go back just like you said. And he goes well. Hang on a minute. I've been coming into the game. I think I think the numbers twenty eight years. Okay not not not not see spike Lee on the sidelines. Okay on the court side. Every game. Steve Guy. Never misses a game. Okay so he says I'm not doing I've been coming through this entrance for twenty eight years. And then he said I'm not doing it. He put his hands behind his back. So you're GonNa have to arrest me man okay to get me to what now full of himself. I don't know right but the League. The team says we've been sending you know emails and warnings about this for a long time so this becomes laughable that he he wants to change and lots of people are going to say this guy. Get rid of this guy. He thinks he owns the world thinks. He's the owner the Knicks. And all that stuff I'm going. Are you kidding me. I'm going the other way. I'll tell you what I would set up a spike Lee entrance. If this guy this guy spent something like three hundred thousand. Steve on tickets Every year and and you know these problems right this this thing now right becomes a huge story. I think the I think it was a huge F. Up on their part to to do that and say you know. How could we solve this? Just don't say a word. Let the guy come through the employee entrance. This guy's a Lotta Yank man poll pricey not an employee in the same manner. That drake is an ambassador to the Toronto Raptors. I would if you told me. Spike Lee had the same role with the Knicks. Believed you because he's been around the team for so long I gotta think that there's something bubbling between under the surface between ownership and Spike Lee. Maybe maybe the raptors are happy to have drake because he is such a hot commodity and continues to be whereas Spike Lee. I don't necessarily hear him. You know churning out these oscar-worthy type movies anymore. I wonder if there may be saying you know what maybe Spike Lee has passed his best before date and And we're going to start maybe distancing ourselves. I've I've no idea what's happened here. But as long as relations are good I agree with you you know. Let them use the employee entrance. Because again if you told me he was an employee at a believe you when you get these these incidents that happened you know. The management of team immediately immediately goes into action about deescalate here. Okay de Escalate. This shit right away okay. Right wrong or otherwise. You know that's life and that guy is the face of that team. Yeah and if they had it over they should make the. They've released this thing saying it's laughable. What he did from the team and I'm gone bad move Bad move you know. It's not the end of the world right. It's not the end of the world that they have a little dispute there with Spike Lee. The statement the statement part that's laughably says the idea that Spike Lee is a victim is laughable. Because we've repeatedly asked him not to use our employees entrance and instead use a dedicated. Vip entrance which is used by the way every other celebrity. Who enters the garden and the disappointed that he created all this drama whereas on the other side of the coin Spike Lee said in a text message to the New York Times that the team statement is a bold faced lie. So something's gone wrong. Obviously in a big way that we don't know about between Spike Lee and ownership. Yeah you know. I don't think teams do enough for the season ticket holder. Okay at the extreme. The high end you get this guy spends almost spends over three hundred thousand bucks and take him and you know if you if you buy your. Food Steve at a grocery store with air miles card. No I finally got one nice. If if you got a shell and pump your gas you get this air miles deal. Get the rack up points. Frequent Flyer. Everybody knows their mouths are yes. That's exactly okay. So you get rewarded for supporting something. Sure but season ticket holders. I think maybe they have one or two events a year or two to honor a recognize are season ticket holders. And I think they need to do more you know. I think they need to do something more significant for someone who spends it's gotTa Be Twenty Grand Steve to buy a pair of tickets now somewhere around there maybe more What's there's forty home games? What'S THE TICKET COST? One Hundred Bucks. Oh God I mean it depends on where you are but yeah you're up over two hundred bucks for sure and some good seats. So you're into eight grand eight nine thousand per seat and and. I think they got to come up with some idea where you were where frequent use right. You're racking up points here for something to get a free game here. I don't know something more I've always. It's always made me wonder why that sort of deal isn't happening. With Sports Teams. Yeah with the with the fan to op. Make make him look at something. That goes yeah this is this is a good deal now. Every game you go to or even even individual people you buy a ticket you know you you you get something something that you can rack up over time stevie Arizona Phoenix the Arizona. Coyotes had the best deal. Ever that you went you went to the lick. I remember being in a liquor store. St which I was a lot for a long time in liquor stores and I I was in Arizona in Phoenix and I was walking by San I. Maybe try vodka today and two tickets. Steve were included in the purchase of a bottle of hot takes to the game. You know it was like fantastic. You know you got something for it. Sure go now. People love free stuff if I get a case of beer and all of a sudden. There's a t-shirt in there or something with an NFL logo under a plastic mug. I mean it's a small thing but you do definitely appreciate it and maybe go to your way to to support. Maybe you're more likely to support than you. Otherwise would have been. Let's finish up today with the RB computing web poll and it was a guy that I think. It's probably in the Buffalo area and Jason Palm in Ville played for the Buffalo Sabres Minnesota wild for a while as well he joined a bill. I thought you were going to McGuire story. Mcguire STORY PLUMBING VILLE. Dare you Jason Palm Ville very good. Nhl for a long time but he He joined beer league and he basically showed up and just absolutely destroyed. Everybody in this in this game kind of a setup I guess but it got me wondering who is the best or most famous hockey player you've ever shared the ice with. And what do you remember about it? And that's our be competing web pool some of the feedback. We gotTa let you. Think about yours. Because I know you've had a couple with All Your oiler Pals Ryan Rights. Planning is ready. Bonk during the four zero five lockout skating behind the net with a pocket. He lifted my stick and broke. It jokingly called him a jerk he took photos with us after the game and gave me this history and signed it. What a great guy. Rick Grenell Steve Shot of the Montreal Canadians in a random midweek. Barely pick up game in the east end about four or five years ago. I remember his cooper bucket and the fact he never seemed to be skating. It always was in the play must have been in his late sixties. Got Bill McDonald. Jamie Baker came up for the last day of scrimmage at an adult conditioning camp. I I went to shortly after. He's traded from Quebec to the Sans. Played on a line together. And wherever I was it my stick was on the ice. I'd feel a perfectly placed pass on the tape and lastly Mark Mark Lua Can I make a top five gala flirt Denny pod Van Marcel Dionne Daniel Alfredsson and Stefan Re Shea? Wow Flour didn't score on me the first two or three times face the halves then reshape set him up for three last time reshape. Rosemead just over the knee with a slap shot from the far Blue Line. Mark is been immediate goal here in town for a long time as well. So he's he's had some beauties there. What about you James? Yeah well there's too so years ago I I hosted segments on the great ones website had a website and they got me to sort of do stories off the page stories about Wayne and stuff and one of them That was part of the fantasy camp. He said well. No that was another thing I did. Was that fantasy camp. So I was on the on the ice during that fantasy camp with a bunch of guys. My Skates on Steve. I just walked all over the ice for the guy I was in the fucking way and I said No. I'm going to do a poll one day and they're going to ask me. Which players have I been with so I wanted to? Today's the day finally arrived so anyway. I did this piece on outdoor rinks for the website and and I thought this might be interesting. It might not but it totally ended up to be really cool. We have people looking around the city in Edmonton for outdoor rinks and it was great. You know there's there's all sorts of stories of guys like neighbors taken the fence down between their yards and making one hundred foot fifty foot lot making one hundred foot rink and there were some Stephen Small as a kitchen table that they just flooded like ten square feet for their kid to come out there. Little infant kit. You know that people say he's going to skate. Get him going early. You know one got one guy had a ring like like an oval with a big firepit in the middle and you skate it all around this thing. You know it was really cool anyway. I had one in my backyard. Jiffy bags you by Canadian tire. Oh yeah they're like ten feet by fifteen or something like that and I bought four or five of these. You lay them all out. You're filling with water and they freeze just peel. The top off and so the segment was going to end at my place. I got a bunch of kids out of school and I said here's my rink in the end of the story and there was a knock at the door when I was shooting this closing bit the closing piece for the for the story and knock at the door. It's like Kat okay. The camera guys. They're open the door and it's weighing in. His sweatpants. Got His skates on. Tuke got a hoodie blouses. I hear there's a I hear. There's a hockey game right. And the I never knew it was by surprise. He got wind of this. He happened to be in town was back in Phoenix days and he went on the ice with all these kids was exceptional. Who's exception so that's yeah and it's somewhere you can look it up somewhere on on Youtube or trying to find it but the other one was Paul. Coffey got hurt one year so you never went on road trips and we were thick as thieves hanging out every day. During the executive workout Steve was was esteem steamer. Okay and then lunch and a few beers. Okay that was the workout everyday life anyway. When he was coming back. Sorry life is good. Life is good. He was coming back from a back injury and then finally was able to escape and the team was like I say on the road. And let's go down the rate Jimmy. You GotTa lace them up you know I gotta start to work out and I said sure. Okay I can skate and so I got equipment. Got All the equipment on. I think I used. I want to use a piece of equipment from every player so I grabbed a pat of messes grab gloves and shoulder pads and cough cool. He didn't give a shit. Because around. So it all this gear on and then we skated in past and all that stuff and the highlight of it was we. I said I'll race you okay now. Paul coffey was I. Don't Steve The fastest guy in the League? Defensive Right there and he said okay. How's this GONNA work? You know and I said I I don't know well let's just wants around. Give me a head start. You got the red line. I'll go the Blue Line. And he's like no no no you'll get fucking killed in a murder and then he changed the Bat. We had a bet he said okay. We'll both start at the red line. Okay we'll stand at the red line. We're GONNA once around and you skate forward and I'm GonNa escape backwards and I was like a sharp enough to say Steve. No no you guys can escape pretty big pretty fast backwards. You know I said no no. You're not gonNA catch me on that one and I said from a standing start right. He goes of course and I said No. No no I said. Yeah okay. Let's do it. He said I'll tell you what I'll give you to the net. Okay you gotTa Skate around the two nights and so I'm going to give a quarter of the way around a lead right and I said no problem. I'll bet you honored. He said Dad. Let's do it and so off. I go three two one on cough skating like I love what I do. I'm like a dog paddling to get out of a pool. You know whipping around the net. Not a chance I see him sort of at the Blue Line he started and I got head down the homestretch before the final turn and all I hear is this massive noise of these big strides and he comes waving by just as I get past the the next net and anyway that was. We hung up for an hour. We did for three or four days in a row went down on the ice so loved it. Great experience. Excellent Helmick mind quick. I was Twenty twelve they had a some kind of charity event in Chemphil and I believe that Chris Phillips was the only guy that was confirmed to take part of this thing and I believe it was during the lockout as well and turns out that he invited a bunch of guys and they all showed up and Daniel. Alfredsson was one of them along with a number of other Ottawa senators. Mark my thought was there for example just after his trade from Columbus Chris Neal was there and a few others and I got to play Daniel Alfredsson and there was the very first shift of the game. I'm like man one of the game in my life. I WANNA impress Alfie Yadda Yadda in so I managed to completely destroy my hamstring on the very first shift as well those plays where you're kind of the PUCK's going behind your own net and I'm playing on the wing and I go back and try and then I see the puck past out so I'm like okay. I WANNA keep up the other way so before I ended up going finishing going in the direction toward my net. I started going back the other way too soon and I just heard Twang completely wrecked my hamstring but still finished and played for as long as I could. As long as I was still in line with Alfie. I was still playing so that was totally memorable. And it really gives you a sense of like you got a sense of with Paul coffey. Just how just other other worldly they are. As far as their hockey ability goes yeah you got no chance you know you got no chance. And that doesn't surprise me because you're one of the most competitive guys. I know So I could see that. Yeah okay well. When do we have a beer here? What's your what's your goal but Steve is like okay okay. I'm going to compete here. I just didn't want to compete. I didn't WanNa like you. I just didn't want to make a fool dead. Wanted to try to keep up. I did bad mistake. Batman's because he knew me as the guy who made the Church of Alpha and he always got a kick out of that and so. This is my first chance to actually play some hockey with them so I was so disappointed when I felt that twingo. Oh no anyway that idea. Back in the studio Steve Looks Parody songs and content. You do stick too much. Do we gotta read a Web poll. Here we sure do thanks to everybody for wet feedback. Yes cool next Steve. Who's the biggest celebrity? You've ever seen period period. Maybe maybe still Daniel Alford's not Robert duvall write. Write it down. I'll tell you about it tomorrow. Hanging out with them. Is that a promotion for next episode. I like it yeah. I'll tell you the story. It was good. It was good embarrassing but it was good get. The web. Poll is presented by the Web. The web the web the Web Paul is presented by our computing. They've been helping Ottawa with their needs. Bigger small for over twenty years right now. Check out the new Microsoft surface pro seven the twelve inch touchscreen to in one laptop that's ultra light and versatile with the all day battery. 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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 609: NFL Combine Recap, 76ers Season Hopes Being Crushed, and Tony Romo Getting Paid

GSMC Sports Podcast

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 609: NFL Combine Recap, 76ers Season Hopes Being Crushed, and Tony Romo Getting Paid

"At this is your ultimate staffer. Everything sports the Golden state media concepts or podcast. Should I say more from the NFL MLB THE NBA MMA? It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen Down Hello. Ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the GMC sports podcasts. And I just want to go ahead and apologize. I'm reporting into a usual spot. Apologize if there's any echo going on or there's any any audio issues. I am recording in a different space. At the moment. I'm trying trying something else. Schedule's been kind of all kind of out of whack recently so on the Sunday show the Sunday. Show the hardest one for chords because weekend job. That is not the best timing wise so but right now I'm in a computer lab like an apartment complex and I'm like facing a wall of. There's a cabinet above me. It's very I can. I can fuel going on right now. So I mean if there's an echo I apologize because I can definitely hear my own echo going on talking as quietly as possible? I was actually. There's another room in this like clubhouse thing for this apartment complex and it's for the other room is like a media rooms got a TV. It's for people to like watch TV and I was like. Oh No it's like nine o'clock on a Saturday night nobody's GonNa come in and watch. Tv and then this do came in and started watching basketball so so then I had to pick up everything. Tackle my stuff all Mike. Women up and move to now this computer room. Where the Super Echoey and I'm just kind of in like this little corner. Close all the blinds. Because I don't want anybody to know what men here. It's it's a struggle at the moment in time but it is also primary day and I'm not its primary day here in South Carolina where I live and I'm not going to be a political thing under saying go out and vote whenever you get your your primary comes up or if you're just waiting for the general elections go out and vote. I don't really care. Who Afford to be honest. I just want everybody to vote It's a very important thing now voiced at two minutes. So let's get into the show leads so we're GONNA be talking about Info combine. What are we talking about? Tom Brady and the market once again. We're GONNA be talking about seventy sixers and the Houston Rockets. Then we'll talk about some new college bowl games. I got confirmed and then we will move onto the crazy. Tony Romo new contracts. Let's go ahead and start with the NFL combine. What are some interesting stuff that's going on? We're GONNA start off with wide receivers. We're GONNA talk about Justin Jefferson. Lsu's just Jefferson. Six one two. Oh Two. He ran a four forty three forty which is a tenth of a second better than what was expected his tape. He isn't really a burner on tape but he's not slow of course if you've seen just in. Jefferson play at all he is. He's been burning up corners all over the place the only other receiver that I could say was better than him was his teammate. Jomar chase your march was also making big time. Plays all over the place for Lsu so Justin Jefferson. He impressed a lot of people. He supposedly had the most impressive workout. According to this writer of this article that I'm reading he he's mentioned that He's more he has a more nuanced running to attack coverage and create separation. He had really good performance of fuel work especially the gauntlet showing athleticism. Focus finishing skills which are all very good qualities for a top receiver to have especially in the NFL. So I think just in Jefferson could be a huge get especially in very receiver heavy draft. We don't really. We haven't really talked about it. But we have henry rugs you gotta just Jefferson. You've got your March eight t higgins. You got CD LAN as well. You Got Denzel Baylor. He's six three to seven. He had an outstanding week at the senior bowl and then he entered the combine the look to separate himself from the rest of the wide receiver group. Which like I said that is going to be difficult because of just the bigger names that are currently in there but his three cone he ran the best three cone a Thursday night with the six six which badge right there. Whatever he had a thirty eight and a half inch vertical ten to eleven inch broad jump or ten eleven broad jump. He looked very comfortable catching the ball. Doubtful routes has bench press had scouts buzzing as well with sixteen reps which is not that crazy but he has thirty four inch arm. So it's a little. It's a little bit more impressive than a regular guy. And then of course I mentioned Henry Rugs. He had a. He had a crazy forty yard time. People were expecting a fast time and he delivered. He had one of the fastest times for the forty definitely on that. Then we can move onto quarterbacks Justin Herbert everyone has been loving justin. Herbert Jordan love from Utah. State has also been getting a lot of love recently as well but everybody loved adjustment. Herbert Justin Herbert. I've been hearing one. Basically God basically. The quarterback of the combine is what? I've been hearing and I mean it makes a little sense because to was not doing any drills and and Joe Borough also Joe. Borough also was doing any of the drill suggested. Herbert everybody knows Was the the number three quarterback pretty much on the board. There's kind of some controversy controversy. But there's a little discussion about whether it should be him or should it be just adored and love from Utah State during love through Seventeen Interceptions Indiana. Answer for that a lot over the week as the week progressed and then of course you have you have. Jalen hurts there as well. You HAVE JACOB EASTERN JAKE FROMM. They were throwing back to back during drills and people were really interested to see what the difference between the and see what. Georgia was seeing when they started jake from Jacob Easson from was consistently more accurate with better timing and rhythm on short to me intermediate throws eastern ones. Better wasn't scattershot with his fastballs. He started settling with his deep throws he was doing a nice job. Goes and corner routes. He has the arm to drive the football with ease but he also showed touch on passes and he dropped the ball in the bucket. A bunch of times. There's also a bunch of surprise reactions to F- I use James Morgan who six four to twenty nine He made some top ten. Combine quarterback rankings. He's he's definitely going to be a late. Round late round quarterback he could be a could be a developmental project for any coach that decide or any organization in the size. Take a chance on him. People a lot of scouts got through live and a ball. Pops offhand with velocity he displayed accuracy in tempo gave his targets a chance to catch the football during field work so he could be a day three target for someone who thinks that he could eventually turn into a really good quarterback and like I mentioned before Joe Borough did not participate any drills. But he was there and I thought that was very interesting that he was there on the field during every single every single drill pretty much he was just kinda there in sweats. Just kinda hanging out and I thought it was very interesting to just see so. Yeah that we move on to tight ends. Notre Dame's coal commit six to sixty two. He became one of the best tight ends in the class. His combine performance his official forty four seven. Some scouts had him with a four six seven or four six eight on their stop office. Which I don't know why they sell their own stop watches when we have lasers and stuff like that. He jumped welcome pair tied in averages. Thirty seven inch vertical and attend three broad jump Which the average nine nine eleven however commit also posted the second worst. Three cone drill the position which non -essarily death sentence. Eric Brown ran a seven. Four nine and two thousand fourteen still went top ten overall but it doesn't help him in any sense. Dayton's Adam Trotman six five to fifty five. Didn't blow anybody away with the forty yard dash eight but on tape. He's route running athlete he He showed athleticism and really impressed some scouts with with that route running ability and he had a six seven eight three cone time which is not the best among the Times but still pretty good also the most consistent tight end during blocking drills so he did a great job setting his feet striking with hands and then driving without losing his balance. Good stuff there then. You Have Dalton keene. Virginia Tech. He didn't receive a ton of love but he put together a strong workout. He finished first among tight ends in the short shuttle with four nineteen broad jump with ten five top five forty yard dash with four seven one three cone drill with seven seven. And he's an unseasoned as a route runner. He didn't light it up on the stats sheet. He had twenty one catches in two thousand nineteen but his athletic profile will be a big conversation starter among some scouts. Maybe being developmental late round guy. So that's just quick. Nfl Combine Update Win. When we come back we'll talk about Tom Brady because there are some interesting rumors going on about Tom Brady and what he could possibly do when we return are you looking for the NFL and college. Football podcast then checkout GMC football podcast. Get the latest football news both on and off the field from the NFL draft to treat to the rumor mill to the NFL combines. They got you covered. That's GSM see. Podcasts DOT com slash football dash podcasts. Get UPDATES. I'm college. Rivalries Keen de insights and much much. More it's football. Talk the way you want it. This show eat sleeps and breathes FOOTBA. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Yes MC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. I told Y'all a couple of weeks ago that the QB market you're going to get tired of it by the time that we actually started seeing where these qb start going. Which I believe is in a couple of weeks now because you have Tom Brady. You Got Philip Rivers. You got drew brees technically. Everybody knows he's going back to the saints. Though you got the panthers kind of Said Away. They said they're gonNA go with CAM. Newton so came off the table. But you still have marcus. Mariota Jameis Winston who got a got ice surgery delays surgery to get twenty twenty vision. Which could that help them out? Could we don't know So this qb market is kind of crazy. At the moment. There are so many moving pieces you have teams like the Chicago bears. The Indianapolis Colts Tampa Bay could be in the running for a new quarterback the the Oakland Sorry Las Vegas the Las Vegas. Raiders have also put their hat in the ring for kind of a new quarterback. The chargers are on in the market for new quarterback. And the titans. We don't know they're gonNA keep Ryan Tannehill or not and I think all of these teams or kind of waiting for that first shoe drop and obviously that I I you to drop. Is Tom Brady? The most accomplished quarterback of our time. Tom Brady Tom Brady. So of course. Free agents free agency officially starts march eighteenth so still have seventeen days until we potentially get an official signing but brady could of course drag the process out and he can meet with potential suitors for weeks on end for instance. Peyton Manning Peyton manning took like two weeks visiting going on a world country of a country wide tour meeting with different teams trying to figure out who who would be the best suitor for him and he ended up with Denver after two week. Free Agency Tom. Brady is definitely going to do the same thing. He's never been a agent is going to be interesting. How he reacts to all of the sudden love from every team in the league pretty much like I mentioned the Indianapolis Colts Chicago Bears Tampa Bay. Raiders chargers tight. All these teams would definitely take a Tom Brady over what they currently have so there. There's a lot of a lot of moving pieces that could happen in the upcoming wants. Free Agency starts and wants. Tom Brady meets with team so during the combine a couple analysts on. Espn and Fox and stuff like that. I have been saying that it's growing more and more unlikely that Tom Brady. Re signed with the New England Patriots. Now of course I could just be a smokescreen by either Tom. Brady's people or the Patriots people to draw more controversy or play the PR game and see who can win the contract dispute here. In my opinion I see it. In my opinion I wouldn't be shocked either way I wouldn't be shocked of instate. I wouldn't be shocked if he let because there are valid reasons for him to stay. There are valid reasons for him to leave. And it's it's kind of just toss at this point people who keep saying Oh. I definitely know he's doing this. They're obviously lying. They're just trying to get their hot takes out there at the end of the day. No one really knows what Tom Brady is planning on doing. But if I have to guess my best guess would be. He is going to move on and join a new team. And why is that mostly? Because he wants to prove himself he wants to play for two or three more years and he wants to prove that he can win under his own merits. He wants to prove that he can win without the Patriot. Way Without Bill Belichick without the resources that the Patriots have given him for the past twenty years. He wants to prove that he can still play and he can still lead a team a new team to a superbowl but my issue with that is. He's not GonNa join just any old team. He's going to join a team that has Has Pieces built in? So he's not getting murdered because the main reason the Patriots were kind of this year. Their offense was not good because they had no receivers. You had Julian Edelman and Julian Allen with good enough pieces around him. He's a. He's a good number two receiver number three receiver or something like that. He should he should never be your number one receiver and he was there. He was the Patriots number one receiver especially after Antonio Brown got cut and stuff like that so you had Julian Edelman had receiver. Offense align wasn't as good as it usually was. You had a different running backs. That weren't worth their weight. Pretty much during the season so Tom Brady had no help and they still won. I think eleven games still made the playoffs and they lost a close game with the Tennessee. Titans so he's going to go to a team that has the resources has teams in place so the chargers is an interesting one. He so during the combine. He's people were talking to the raiders and the chargers. There's been talk that he was talking about the titans a little bit and even the buccaneers now. The buccaneers makes sense. Because Jamie's through thirty TOUCHDOWNS AT THIRTY INTERCEPTIONS JAMES. Literally the perfect flip a coin. Flip a coin. Don't know where you're going to get the raiders. They've been adamant lately about getting rid of Derek Carr they could trade Derek Carr and move up in the draft or they can just it really depends on what they think about the. Tom Brady aspect if they if they can pick up. Tom Brady than the Las Vegas. Raiders can open up their brand new stadium with the most accomplished quarterback of all time. And maybe a few games. You don't really know you really could not know so the chargers. I need him because they need to sell tickets and they need to establish themselves as the as a team in Los Angeles because they can't they don't they're not really a team in Los Angeles to be honest. Nobody in Los Angeles cares. All of their home. Games are filled with away. Fans stuff like that so they need that spark. They need to get something. They'll fans sell tickets. Tom Brady the perfect person for that. However the chargers have the receivers they have a pretty good running back off. The line is iffy. The main reason Philip rivers played so bad. This past year is because often the line was garage so the chargers want to improve their offense line. Then there you go but they need to improve their offense line. I'm assuming they're going to drop big bucks on Tom Brady. So we'll see if that actually happens. Then you have the tendency time Tennessee. Titans are in a very interesting spot. Ryan Tena Hills a free agent. Derrick Henry is a free agent which one of those two are. You more likely going to resign. And at this moment in time I'm thinking Derrick Henry Ryan tannehill great year. He had a nice resurgence here but at the end of the day he had one good year. Derrick Henry had assault couple years ever since he got drafted. He kind of a breakout year this year. But he's been doing he's been doing what he's been doing ever since he got drafted people. Were just now taking notice this past year. So they're gonNA resigned. Eric Henry now does that mean. They're going to have enough money to get Tom. Brady time receiving core is good enough. Corey Davis and Corey Davis who kind of been disappointed so far in the league. I thought he'd be a little better but he's been kind of injury. Injuries have kind of gotten him there. But receivers are pretty good. Offense align is solid and Derrick. Henry can you imagine Tom Brady with a running back like dare cannery? He'd I don't think he's ever had a running back quite the caliber of Derrick Henry. So that by itself could be interesting. And then we could find find Ryan tannehill going somewhere else Ryan. Ho could go to the chargers or could Ryan Tannehill go to the New England patriots and replace Tom Brady. We don't know the quarterback free agency is going to be insane and I'm excited for when when they actually starts. I'm waiting so waiting on the first few to drop. We already got Camden Camden News. And he had the drew brees news. That is squared away. We're still waiting on the big big fish to fry which Tom Brady and after Tom Brady gets signed. That means everyone else. All shoes will drop and I'm personally excited it when we come back. We'll talk about the seventy sixers. They Philadelphia Seventy sixers. They've kind of has some very. 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Simmons is dealing with back issues he. He suffered nerve impingement in his lower back during game against the bucks. That was about a week ago. I was like last Saturday. So it's about eight days ago. Sixers have not released official statement on on the injury but apparently he was dealing with back issues before the gaming. The Milwaukee Bucks. They're saying that he could be. He will be reevaluated in a week or so and they will monitor his the monitor his status from there. There's some speculation I'll reiterate this. I'm saying speculation. This is not me saying this is what it is. I'm just saying this is what I read and is just speculation. So let's let's just emphasize that request is speculation. I don't know for fact that this is what it is. So speculation is that it could be her name desk or a disc issue. In general we don't know for sure caused the pinched nerve or the nerve impingement bud. Based on the information the public has and the most common cause would nerve impingement is a disc flaring. Up is in fact if it is in fact hurting aid then it could take twelve weeks to fully heal not twelve weeks. That's about three months so we're looking at may late. May which means missing some play offs. Which honestly without Ben Simmons. How far can the seventy sixers actually make it in the playoffs? Because right now the sixers are in a very interesting spot because they are. I think fifth in the East right now. They're kind of jockeying just for just for seating at the moment because they're not going to get number one they're not going to. They're going to be the three to six range at the moment so right. Now they're just kind of jockeying between three and six at the moment and and that means they're going to play a pretty good team in the first round. The playoffs are gonNA play either a three seat or or foresee not enforcing no yeah FORC- they're gonNA play it or three seat or forcing so it's going to be interesting If they do make the playoffs as a six seed then that means they will play a three seed. I believe yes. They'll play three seat and the three seed right now off the top of my head. I think Boston so imagine seventy six versus Boston with out. Ben Simmons your best passer your best playmaker best. He's efficient. He makes great. Platte makes great passes. He's a great playmaker. You're losing that now to add insult to injury injury to more injury Joel. Embiid left the first quarter of this past Wednesday game against the Cleveland. Cavaliers with a sprained left shoulder. So now you're looking at a seventy sixers team. Without Ben Simmons without Joel embiid without two of their best players. Now after that I have you have Al Horford which is been apparently causing so this all adds onto the of course the locker room issues that supposedly going on that Halloween. Kinda alluded to a couple of weeks back so you have all those locker issues and now you have Ben Simmons out have joe well beaten out and you don't know when they're coming back. There's a possible Joel. B Doesn't come back until playoff start. There's a possibility that Ben Simmons won't come back until after the playoffs. Start so without Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid. What do you have in Philadelphia? It's all falling apart in Philadelphia at the moment because of injuries and I hear really hate when something like that happens because injuries are the worst and especially since the was looking really good top four teams in the east. We're looking really good with the bugs with the heat heat with the bucks the raptors the Celtics and then the sixers and the heat was up there as well with Jim. Butler and stuff. And it's very discouraging. Seeing one of the top teams in the East is going to be heavily handicapped because there without two of their best players. Do the player that the the process built around. So they're losing those guys so I decided what do the sixers look like without Joel? Embiid and Ben Simmons found some stacks the sixers defense. It's actually pretty pretty good They yield one hundred eleven points per one hundred per sessions which is about the league average. Offensively they're thirty seven percent from three without either of them. They're forty two percent amid range more than likely they're outperforming their shot chart in those two so those numbers are not sustainable. They're not gonNA keep up especially without Benson is making these plays and Joel Embiid. Kind of helping spread the floor out. So the team is below average. Ineffective Field Goal percentage. They're below average and taking care of the basketball. They're below average. An offensive rebounding rate team does not the seventy sixers does not get out of transition as well with Al Ben Simmons as I said he's got the court vision that's fantastic passing ability that you'd never know some teams never know where the ball's going to go because of his incredible passing ability. These are things you've got to think about when you don't have the your best player so we'll see if they miss more than a couple of weeks because of course Ben Simmons whether they're going to reevaluate him a little bit and Joel Embiid we. That's fresh injury. We don't have complete updates on that but both of them being out is definitely a negative. I mean obviously it's a negative. It's a negative for the seventy sixers and I hope they both come back because the seventy sixers are not interesting without them. Like I said you have Al Horford and who else you have Al Horford. And that's pretty much it and then and then yeah and Joel. Embiid of course is one of the best players in league period and you're knocking him for the rest of the way. Like I said the seventy sixers. I think they are so good enough to make the playoffs. They're still going to make the playoffs. I like I said unless something just cash droplet of Al Horford also got hurt. Then they're going to be a big role but now Horford is still a pretty solid basketball player so he can lead kind of corral that team and make sure they still make the playoffs. At least they'll definitely make the playoffs. Just the question is how well they perform in the playoffs. Especially if they go up against the Celtics or the heat or the the the raptors. It'd be very interesting to see how they play against those guys and I just don't think it's going to be pretty. I think it's going to be an early exit. And you really gotTA start asking yourself. Is this process. Is the process actually working because you you've completed the process for about three years three seasons now? And nothing's really come of it. You made it to A. He made it to the Eastern Conference finals. Once I believe and that was about it. So is the process really a failure. Especially since it's scenes. I Joel embiid has never healthy and it seems like Ben. Simmons is not good enough on his own because he doesn't he can't hit a shot that's farther out than fifteen feet or something like that. So you really gotta start. Ask yourself if you're Philadelphia. Is it worth it to keep these guys because obviously I mean Joel bead struggling to stay healthy Ben Simmons? He's he's got great court vision and great passing but is he what we need. Is He that thing that we need to push us to victory to push us to an NBA finals and push us to an NBA championship? These are questions that people smarter than me. Aaron had to ask themselves just asked questions but when we return I'll be dissecting another big decision that happened in the NBA which is the Houston Rockets and their new strategy when it comes to their lineup so that when we return are you looking for help for your fantasy football team check out GMC fantasy football podcast get today's best advice on how to start who to sit even who. You should draft from sleeper picks. Red Hot LINEUPS. They got it all covered for you. That's GSM see podcasts. Dot Com slash fantasy dash football dash podcasts. We'll cover traditional leagues dynasty. Up are even impedes when you need fantasy help. There's just one show to hit up. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Gs MC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. So obviously everyone knows about the Houston Rockets. And their new newfangled. Small Ball Extreme. Small Ball offense after they made some trades before the trade deadline. Daryl Morey the general manager of the rockets side of the go all in on the small ball approach and ever since they went all in on the small ball. Approach the rockets as I'm recording this as I'm recording that they've won six of their last date since they've decided to go all in with this approach and they're thirty twenty in all and fourth in the West. Currently there are two games behind the second place. Denver there two games behind second place. Denver Nuggets with twenty four games go and their remaining schedules. Easier than all seven teams in the NBA. So they've won the easier schedules in the league and mostly this has been working because this has been were. This grand experiment has been mostly working because they're using a six foot five center. Who's in the middle of this league wide debate about the future of a big man and that's PJ. Tuck BJ. Tucker of course has been pretty solid before this whole this whole thing kind of happened. He was he's he was. He has been when at least most versatile physical defenders when he played for Phoenix Toronto. But he's never made an all of the offensive team though hasn't missed a game. Since ample April second two twenty seventeen that means two hundred sixty five consecutive regular season and playoff games. He's played in six hundred sixty one of a possible. Six hundred seventy games. Since the start of the twenty twelve to thirteen season corner threes all the time and then especially with harden and Westbrook kicking out kicking out to them with a huge spacing that they got going on with this new fangled offense so tucker ranking as NBA. Top shotmaker from the corner three. He's hit seventy four at a forty point. Seven percent rate. Next Person Is Detroit's Langston Galloway. And he's second was sixty four. The Tigers also respected leader. He's a resident truth teller in the locker room. He's got an old school toughness. It's on display every time out He on and it. It's evident because Games of the Western Conference finals. The two thousand eighteen he underwent three root canals before two golds the date of wound up finishing with fourteen points. Twelve rebounds and four steals. And that's just insane so Dan. Tony has mentioned that A. He's just as important as anybody but he's not sexy. That's what it is. I'm talking about names and fame reputations. I don't think reporters do deep dives on. What is really happening when he's on the floor and then James Harden has mentioned that yeah. I think he's been overlooked. You're talking about a guy who plays that role in Glue Guy that who does what he's supposed to do every single night. He's at the top of that list. Now a Lotta people doing not a lot of people love doing that role if it's not showing up on the stats sheet or if it's not looking flashy like the dirty dog diving on the floor. Taking charges those type of places that win games HE LOVES IT HE EMBRACES IT. So I'm appreciative. That comes from James Harden of course so because of the chain because of the trade that happened February fifth February sounds so far away. But it's only it less than a month. I mean it was a couple of weeks ago. I feel this month just dragged on especially when it comes to the NBA. Because there's always something going on in the NBA rockets and Big Capello of course to Atlanta and brought Robert Covington. And then so. The real question is was tucker who is now being asked to defend the league's biggest and baddest men every time out so that the rocket superstars us all that extra space dominate on board with his plan. His Age alone was enough to make. You wonder if you might have some reservations about the new job description. If only because of the impact of all the extra pushing and shoving considering some of the ground that was covered in our first conversation when when Tucker admits frustration that the rock has had grandma extension last summer it was fair to wonder how he might profit all this complicated components. The rockets of course rewarded him. Recently by picking up a partial guaranteed final season of his contract worth seven point nine seven million dollars which I think we should go round that up to eight million might as well. He's obviously been asking for a long term deal but the negotiate until the summer so they got Robert Covington and his arrival now means that Tucker is the rockets fifth highest play paid player. Which of course is behind? Westbrook Harden Erik Gordon Covington. And then you have Tucker after Covington. He's Tucker is considered a consummate team player but money can always complicat- stuff when it comes to players spirits so tucker said that it was an easy decision for him to play in this new role and to empower James Harden and Russell. Westbrook like never before he said. I have to tell you that it's not a choice. It's like when people ask why play so ard like it's not a choice to play hard. I don't have a choice. That's what you gotTa do period. It's he is fully on board with doing this new being part of this new position kind of position playing this new position and getting and learning the ropes kind of on the fly and and getting beat up playing these bigger guys and he never complaints. He never complains about anything so so. Let's look into it so like I said so. This new small ball. I've I was on mentioned. It's great because it's going to spreads out the floor. His Russell Westbrook more chances to be his athletic self Pj Tucker helps with that as well because he can hit those corner threes. He can hit those difficult shots but he can also go down low in get rebounds if he must although he's not It's not that big. He's six foot five which I'm five foot eight so you know. That's huge to me. So Russell Westbrook uses that James Harden of course is one of the best skill players in the league because we got that whole drama with Janas Antioch New. It just seems like this. This system is it. Seems like the rockets are perfectly built for this weird system. If you know what I mean. They're kind of perfectly built. For because Russell Westbrook's athleticism James Harden can hit hitting those crazy shots and getting fouled when he needs to be fouled. I guess then you have Robert Covington and pj tug or adding onto that. The team so far has shown cohesiveness over this new small ball technique. It seems like they kind of the. They're closer together their working better together with this new small ball thing going on so it seems so far. The gamble is working out. Seems like that so far. They say they'll ask eight as I mentioned before. The playoffs are much more physical time. And it's going to be very difficult for me to choose the rockets to win anything when it comes a playoff time. Because it's just going to be difficult if they play the Lakers. They played the clippers and the plows. Yes they beat. The Lakers Lakers the first game. They came back with this new system but I feel like in. The playoffs is completely different. It's more physical rest. Let the teams a little bit more. It'd be a little bit more difficult for James Harden and Russell Westbrook to Canada. Do what they do as one way I know her fact is not gonNa work in. The playoffs is because Russell Westbrook never won anything the playoffs that okay see James Harden close. The humane was the finals. He didn't really he doesn't really do much in the playoffs. So you're relying on these guys who don't really do much the playoffs to Kinda lead a team into the playoffs. But we'll continue to monitor this situation and we'll see if the small pays off when we get playoff time because the rockets will make the playoffs. We'll see if it pays off so when we return we'll talk about new bowl games that have been announced for college. Football is it bad for the sport and we'll be discussing just bowl games in general. So are you looking to get your college football bagged looking to get the latest news on your favorite school team. They Diaz Empty College football. Podcast is your ticket to all things college football doing us as we talk college football from the National Championship. The college rivalries the bowl game to the heisman trophy so which converts is the best. We've got you covered for the big ten as the big twelve the PAC twelve. Acc and everything in between download the GMC call it football. Podcast on Itunes Stitcher soundcloud. Google play or anywhere you find God Dax just type T s NC in the search bar so the one of the biggest conversations if you could rank the conversation that revolve around College Football. So you always have rivalries. You always have quarterbacks. In the heisman you always have been paying players and conference realignment and stuff like that another thing that has always talked about in college. Football is the fact. There is the biggest kind of pointless to be honest but bowl games. Are there too many. Are there not enough at bowl? Games been diminished. The has the the lower bowl games been diminished. Because of the amount there are and we're gonNA get into that. Why my sparking? This conversation though is because there is a new ballgame in Los Angeles is the La Bowl is been confirmed. It would be an suffice stadium. Which is that New Stadium? That the rams I think the charters will be living in Los Angeles. It's the renders. Have been fantastic. I've seen people driving videos of people driving by and just cute age and we really cool then you. It'll be the number one team in West facing the Fifth Best Team for the PAC twelve which I off sorry mountain west. So basically Boise state. Who's usually the top of the mountain west? The play middle packed packed while team which to be fair. They played a middle of the pack. Twelve team this year and they got destroyed by Washington. But still it's a little unfair because boise state plays really good football year round and they kind of get punished just because of this conference and I really thought when they were suing the mountain West that they were actually going to leave but they kind of settled that whole lawsuit. I forgot to update that on this podcast but they they kind of settled that whole lawsuit staying in the mountain West so the mountain west champion will go up against the fifth best team. The PAC twelve in the L. Label was the fifth best twelve Arizona Arizona State. One of the do more likely state will face boise state or something like that. But this is one of two other bowls added. I know the Myrtle beach bowls a brand new one. That's played at Coastal Carolina in Myrtle Beach South Carolina. Home of the OHIOANS. So That's new bowl game. Sunbelt versus American. I'm not positive on that. One or converts say I always forget about conference. Usa and then. There's a third one that I didn't look up where the third one was. But this brings are the big question. Are there too many bowl games so including the championship game in the playoffs? And stuff like that. There are forty three total ballgames meaning eighty six of the one hundred thirty teams in the F. B. S. Make It to a bowl game so of course you still have to be boiled to reach the bowl eligibility limit which is six wins. And that's kind of been loose lately because five and seven teams of Beta two bowls because there's not enough six six teams or anything like that. So are there too many bowl games? You could argue that yes. But here's my personal opinion is and will hold on. Let me put the other side of the so people have been saying that ten. It's been low for most of the gains for instance the Bahamas Bowl. Nobody goes the palm bowl. Because it's a whole other country. Knowing goes the Bahamas Bowl. No one goes to Hawaii bowl and own goes to the Birmingham Bowl or the shreveport bowl or these likely smaller bowl games. No one goes to so. Why do we have them and usually they're against teams and no one cares about. So why do we have them? And that's kind of what people have been saying about ball games. I think ball games are still a reward especially for the smaller school so these smaller schools if you take away their capability and making a bowl game you kind of make it even more unfair for the small schools because then because when you when you go to Boise State. They boast that they've been to the fiesta bowl. They've been the BCS bowls near six bowls and stuff like that. They both all these cool bowl games that they've been to and to some recruits that fell in love with the program. They like that because at least you're playing for something because let's be honest here. The group of five are not GonNa make the playoffs like ever the only chance a group of five team. I was watching a re watched a Clemson Clemson Louisville from two thousand sixteen a Houston was number six in the country. That is the only chance I see a group of it where they beat Oklahoma for the first game that your word they were already ranked pretty high up and then they beat a high-ranking team and then they kind of ran off with it but then they eventually lost so. That's the only way you see a group of five team going in. You have to not only be good not only be undefeated during the year that you were seen not only. Do you have to be undefeated during the year that you're trying to make the playoffs? But you have to be undefeated the years beforehand as well for good for three straight years you have to be ranked in the top twenty five ranked in the top ten for basically three straight years before. You're even considered part of the conversation. Ucf when they went undefeated I think the highest ranking they got was a seven and that was at the end the poll that was the postseason poll ever Auburn in the peach bowl and stuff like that they beforehand. They were like eleven or something like that and you you clearly see the disrespect for disrespect for power five schools. I forgot who it was but there was a team that was undefeated. I hate that I forgot. It was but there is a team that was undefeated. This year. This past year by the way they were undefeated it was like November. It was the Color Football playoff poll and they were ranked fifteenth. This is an undefeated power. Five schools ranked fifteenth in the country. It's our it's outrageous so these group of five schools. They have zero chance at making the playoffs. So you want them to go to ball games and really all you gotTa do is actually. Watch the ball games where these teams are playing in. And then you you. Basically you see the excitement on the coaches and the staff. You see the excitement on the players faces during the game. And that's when you that's when you see that yes that is that is why they still have all these folks so. I think all the ball games are really really good for these smaller schools to the group of schools because they get to go to new places so I used to work for the football team as equipment manager as soon quit manager and whenever we went to playoff games and stuff like that which I mean my privileges showing there but when we went to playoff games it was really cool because we got to. We got to basically live in a different city for a week in this fancy hotel in with with bowl with events that were ran by the bowl like the Combo was the best ball we went to because the convoy was just like they had like cool events going on and they had like a cool game room and stuff like that. The hotel we stayed in was Super Nice. And you're you're basically taking away these bowl games. You're kind of robbing these smaller schools from getting an opportunity to do stuff like that. It's more football. I mean there's a reason people watch the xfl there's a reason people want to add that seventeenth. Nfl. There's a reason why people want to add those extra playoff games in the NFL. Bottom line is people like football. People want more football especially at the end of football season so imagine in December when it's bowl season bowl season starts around like December seventeenth or something like that and then after December seventeenth. You have a game every day until the national championship. I mean sounds great to me so I mean I mean I. It's one of those things where people will just kind of yearn for the old days where there was only like ten bowls and that might it meant something to make that bowl games though That's I mean people. There the prestige of a ballgame does Kinda go down a little bit but for these smaller group of five schools. It means a whole lot for is Charlotte Forty niners. They went to their very first bowl game in the Bahamas bowl and those players that coach staff their fans. They were all super excited because it was their first bowl game and they're excited to go to Bahamas because the Bahamas so I mean these are things that you think about when you think about the stuff but when we return we'll we'll talk about our last subject. Was Tony. Romo got it when we return. Check out this build around the women of the UFC Invicta F. C. Championship. We got the fights covered. It's the golden state media concepts women's MMA podcast. The latest news of upcoming fights discussions of previous matches join us as we talked to in about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and Future. When it's the women's fight game you know where to listen to the golden state media concepts women's. Mma podcast Tony. Romo got paid so there. Were there rumors rumors going on Tony? Romo was going to leave. Cbs ENJOYING ESPN. To be on the Monday night football crew and ESPN was going to pay him a lot of money to be on the Monday night football crew. It was released today. Saturday the twenty ninth Leap Day that Tony Romo signed with. Cbs million dollars a year. For five years there's online at which basically means you get paid like a million dollars a week during the NFL season which is crazy to me especially for a broadcaster. Because Al Michaels no sorry dance. His partner is broadcast partner. Gets paid five million a year so he's getting paid a twelve billion more than this man. Who's been who's been doing what he's been doing for forty plus years so that alone is crazy and then you have players saying players on twitter. Being angry always should just be commentators then like I think Oh. Bj mentioned on the Deandre Hopkins said something about as well and then of course you got smaller players. That are currently deciding whether or not they should sign it. They should vote on the vote for the And you see this former ex. Nfl player getting paid. Seventeen million dollars. Now I understand their concerns. I understand why they're angry but at the end of the day. Cbs is not the NFL the NFL is not paying. Tony Romo is. Cbs So their complaints are valid because they put their bodies on the line and stuff like that and they should be compensated for it but he can't get mad. You can't get mad because he's not getting paid I fell. He's getting paid right completely different entity and entity that have to deal with the salary cap doesn't have to deal with doesn't have to deal with. I mean there's no trades I mean you WANNA be. There are trades. I mean I think Al Michaels got traded to NBC for cartoon character at one point. Two thousand six look it up. That is a true fact is either him or Nance. It's one of the two. I always get them confused. But preachers Al Michaels Al. Michaels got traded from ABC TO NBC for Oscar the Rabbit which is Walt Disney's original cartoon original cartoon character before he made Mickey Mouse. Abc Traded Al Michaels for the rights to Oscar the rabbit so Disney could have all that stuff in their vault and they went through all that trouble and he's not even on Disney plus SMH shaking my head so hard at that but does Tony Romo observe. Does he deserve seventeen million dollars. I I mean that's a lot. That's a lot of money. Seventy million dollars a year just to watch common date and announced broadcast football. Which he does A. He's he's the best color commentator in the business. You can't dispute that. I mean nobody on the only person I could think that's close is Chris. Collins worth people are sour on him. So that's debatable. But that's the only person I can see that it's close enough to Tony. Romo how Tony Romo does does. The only person is close enough. So Tony Romo He. He's the best in the Biz and he's been doing this for three years or something like that very short period of time when he first started everyone really hyped up about him. Predicting plays him just having really great insight into the games that we are watching and I mean once again seventeen million dollars is a lot of money so I don't know if he necessarily deserves seventeen million but he definitely deserves at least as much. Is Jim Nance which is five million so understandably players are angry about it understandably Tony? Romo's a happy man right now because I mean that's crazy now. Someone did bring up a good point one if Cbs does not get the rights to NFL football anymore. What are they doing Tony? Romo to keep paying seventeen million dollars year and the answer is use. Tony Romo getting out like a bandit of course. Cbs is going to get NFL back. It's not going to the SEC. Game of the week thing where they kind of lost that to those rights. Espn BUT NOW ESPN scrambling. Because they were banking on Tony. Romo doing Monday. Night football analogy. Spn is kind of scrambling around looking for a new guy. Which I WANNA throw my hand ring. I have no experience doing play by play. Commentary back into a hell of a lot better than they Monday night. This season three man booth first off. I don't I personally. Don't like three man booth at three man booth is. There's too much going on aid in football. You kinda you have the color commentator who gives his analysis whenever there's kind of a there's kind of dead air and then he had the play by play guy who tells you what's going on when you have a three man group. I mean you have to color guard. There's usually most of the time they're talking over each other. They're talking to each other. They're just told you not having. I mean. This is a lot a lot to kind of process so Monday night. Football did not do a very good job in the past two seasons. Of course you had the Burger mobile going on there. Booger mobile going on there for a little bit which. I was stupid. Apparently people liked it though. I didn't at all. But they're looking at Peyton. Manning potentially taking over solid chipper Jones is going to be doing Wednesday night baseball this year for ESPN which is interesting. Because he did some booth stuff for braves broadcast but he was always usually drunk the Houston just found him in the crowd like he was just us at the game and he'll be like hey chipper you want to go to the booth and like talk and he was like yeah like easy leaves eight beers deep or something like that. He's been drinking all day because he's retired and doesn't have to do anything else so drinking all day and vital to the booth and he goes do that. Omah cash so Tony. Romo getting paid seventy million dollars. I hope to get paid seventy million dollars to talk over football one day probably not going to happen currently since I have no experience in doing it right now and I know. 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Hour 2: Clemson QB Drama

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Hour 2: Clemson QB Drama

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This is sports center right now month only at the Collins. The numbers don't lie when it comes to the cowboy sluggish offense. Dallas has scored forty one points, three games, the fewest start a season since nineteen ninety. Now in their last five games dating back to last season, Dallas going twelve points per game last in the NFL. The Cowboys are also second to let them passing yards over that same span only the cardinals have been worse. Cowboys owner, Jerry Jones was asked on local radio, getting ready to make significant changes. If things don't turn around. A locker players like our coaching staff. We've seen them perform the way it's like, can play at those levels and you can go right down to the position when you lose a game and you come in on Monday, it's never as bad as it seems. You can always find some bright spots. Opposite is true. When you win, you can go in and are surprise that you see some of the things you can improve on. That's that's just the nature of what we're doing. But I think the question is, have I hit the panic button answers now. Now back to I take. Founding. Thank you. Will Cain Damien Woody here with us good to see you? My man will how we doing good morning doing all right. Yeah, I love that will like was talking about they were an elite team three games in, is it time for them to hit the panic button and the question? Yeah. Well, bet you do love it. I'll bet. Well, your bet is right. Well, Hugh star, Jerry Jones says they should hit the panic and they shouldn't. Do you think they should. Not yet. But if I'm an optimist here's my point, at least very. Listen, stop. You laugh. Just started talking. Give me a second. Here's here's the truth. The matter I'm so happy. Jerry acknowledged that there is a panic button if there's one in Dallas, if there's one up there in Frisco at the star, can we all go over to the panic button and hover our hands over it like this? I don't agree, not yet Jerry, but I'm glad you found it. It was in the back room. Apparently back there back there behind Jason's office. He was hiding it or he in Scotland him have a panic room. That's where the panic button is. And if you get that button just kinda hover your hand over because this offense, it's garbage. Okay. And I don't know if it can be fixed the here here. Here's the pessimism. Here's the optimism. Pessimism is man. The whole offense ones backwards. I mean, the the defensive line, whoever they're playing Carolina, New York or Seattle, they're pushing forward. Dak is backing up the receivers running, comeback roots, its third, nine and guess how far the roots go, nine yards. They go nine yard, run curl, and everybody's pushing back with the. Whole damn banks designed to go backwards. So my point is, can we maybe get somebody arming things play calling? I don't dare Garrett instead hand that's not gonna fix it because it's a design problem. My only hope though here's the optimism is once upon a time. There was a guy named Tony Romo who this offense was designed for and it was complicated and with sophisticated and it was a pro offense, and he got hurt in a matter of weeks that Prescott had to step in the simplify it, and they made an offense that worked. If there's a panic button and you can hover over and you can get back to those days where you can simplify and help back. Execute offense. That is that is that is one that he's run before that's worked well. Then maybe we don't have hit the panic button, but maybe we can. That's what I was gonna ask. What exactly does this panic button do? Like let's say the question is not like, do you hit it? Where is it? It's like when you press it, what happens then? Change your quarterback and by the way you should you change your coach. Well, of course you should. And will that's truly hilarious that the offense is designed to go back. Release a directional problem. They just need to reverse the offense. Start going forward. Promo seen they don't have enough talent at receiver. There's just they don't have talent receiver. This is a passing league. You cannot win building your offense around the running back. You need in even if you wanna do that, you need talented receiver. And here's what the panic button really should do. If it wants to have an effect to panic button like what seat visit Jecht is it? The coaches at the quarterback is seeded, shouldn't get owner. It has been twenty going on twenty three years since the last Super Bowl, they have won three playoff games in twenty three years. At a certain point, Jerry Jones has to look in the mirror and say, like, how does he answer to that? What you have done is not good enough. Forget about Cowboys fans who have high expectations for any team. It's not good enough. You are failing. Jerry Jones has failed to consistently put out a competitive project, a product that can compete in the playoffs for twenty. Three years. So the problem with a panic button is the seat it needs to check is the owner and he ain't a jetting himself what we all know that number one number two and more importantly, history -ality the situation as it pertains to this specific team, how about just gives Zeki Elliott, the damn ball. It ain't complicated. You built the team for the running game. Y'all. -fensive line isn't what it used to be, but it's not pathetic the fact that Amanda is you have a guy in Zeke Elliott that average more than seven yards a carry last week against Seattle as still only got the ball about sixteen times. That's just inexcusable particularly when you consider the fact that they were idiotic and let go a Dez Bryant, they need to call pick up the phone, call him, ask him to come over his house for visit, apologized him and bring him back to the damn team because you don't only have a number one option. You don't have a number two options. Death. Jerry Jones went to the beyond, say, concerts together, so you don't do something like that. So the point is go get das- back. Okay. To get some kind of option because Alan earns clearly is not that dude. You're not even targeting him for crying out loud and give Zeke Elliott football a minimum of twenty five times a game. It's really not gonna do for you. Stephen. Well, it's going to help you offense. Number one, number two, the move to change and then keep the defense off the field for Chuck a period of time. They would have a better shot at upside wasn't really. What what really side is that they'll have a better shot at winning football games. This is not. This is not an elite team point is it doesn't. They're not an elite team, but he's an elite player. So you give him the damn bowl, you rod the way, give him the ball twenty five times a day and call it a day. That's what you do. It Zeki leli here's the problem with the Dallas Cowboys. What is their identity? Whether they are, I know what you're speaking of long-term. The like the big was out of line who was ofensive long, right? Yeah, there's no identity when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys and then you gotta play calling Scotland ahead where your best weapon, you're not feeding him. The raw listening note. Listen, everyone knows everyone if that because they're behind in games. No, that's not the case. I mean, you know, you're talking about the game. They were running back. You don't occur. They were ended the whole way. Listen, the defense, the defense accident playing well, they got divas online to get after people all we know what they have on the outside. They don't have what nonce outside, but what you do, you have the lead running back in the backfield guess what? Run the ball playing. Good divas can take you places now. Now can it take you to win the Super Bowl, stacked of the NFC is no. But if you're the Dallas Cup with you're looking for immediate solution, you got up the carriers and the production from Zeke Elliot and rely on that one. This is somewhere take you. It would take you Damian to the play offs. I truly think running game like you just described could take you to the playoffs and then let's see what happens. Here's what they would tell you. Okay. Molly asked you, why aren't they doing that is because they're behind and games. I guarantee you Damien, this is what Scotland ahead would tell you, although we're not behind by big, we're behind the chains. They'd tell you, we take penalties. It's first and fifteen, or I in twenty. And then you can't run the ball. I agree with you in Stephen when Zeke Elliott's averaging seven yards a rush. Guess what three of them get your first down on. I in twenty. So keep giving it to Zeke. I agree with you and Steven one hundred percent fifteen carries done cut Stephen a. about the desk thing. The truth matters. I can't go with you because you know what happened. Here's the truth matter if they signed Desmond, they wouldn't throw it to him. I mean it the problem is I actually think tape on Austin can play. I think take on Austin can stretch a defense. I think tailing can get behind the defense, but laughable that's. Let's think about this. Move on deep table on Austin there, one for one for sixty yards and a touchdown. Death row that was laughable here is you're talking about a guy who's really a gimmicky. Why? Receiver as being your one legitimate threat about that, Dallas Cowboys this Jason. Jason measured before. So this offense is averaging the second fewest points per game in the entire league in second fewest yards. So struggling to say the least, but Jerry Jones guys, big, Jerry reveals NFL networks, football life that Tony Romo will one day be in the ring of honor saying, I don't think of anybody that could be more deserving than someone that's made a huge contribution to this franchise than Tony Romo. I figure Jimmy Johns. It's Romo deserving of this used. This is what ring of honor's are for ring of like there was a Tony Romo era, and they had some success in limited ways, and he was very good player, and that's what ring of honor's are for the Yankees have monument park and Paul O'Neil and Bernie Williams. We're all stars but not hall of famers quite could make an argument for Bernie their monument. Poor. This is what ring of honor's for this is a really good player. He's in our hall of fame, says the Dallas Cowboys. He's not in the league wide hall of. Same put. He's. He was our hall of Famer. There was an era called the Tony Romo era. He was a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback in some years. He had an excellent career that is precisely what this honor is designed for. And he's the perfect player for listening. When you look at Tony Romo, think about where he came from this guy that went undrafted. Okay. Undrafted when we think of all the great players with the Dallas Cowboys, the Troy Aikman Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin these guys were high picked twenty Romo did it the hallway by coming up, earn a job and becoming one of the better quarterbacks in the National Football League period. I think everyone gets caught up in the moments where the playoff game up in Seattle way fumbled snap. We've seen the type of planes from Tony Romo Embiid. But overall, when you look at the body of work of Tony Romo, he's absolutely deserving to being a cowboy, you know, bring on or slash hall of it. He's never going to be. I don't think he's ever. Going to be in the NFL the thing because he's, he's never elevate him up to that level. But for the Cowboys what best his best. He was similar level to a hall of Famer for a short time. He didn't have the career to get into the hall of fame, correct. Goffin. Here comes the Scrooge my goodness look at his face. Let me get you to go on one. Go ahead. Bob for past the Stephen aid. Kevin hart. On negative pessimism. But here's the deal. Listen to this calls for rain. Let's be clear. Tim Tibo is not my only friend. It's also Tony Romo we're at the pleasure meeting and talking to last year. I like Tony Romo. I really do seventy eight and forty. Nine Reckitt completed sixty five percent of his passes throughout his career. Tony Romo could ball, Tony Romo is to be respected, but let's understand something here. If we're talking about the Jerry Jones Cowboys. Absolutely. He deserves to be the ring of honor. We're talking about the Dallas Cowboys and what this supposed to stand for. It doesn't mesh. The reality is this where we talk about Michael Irvin me talk about Emmett Smith. We talk about Troy when we talk about damning Woodson when we talk about Nate Newton and others, we're talking about Super Bowl champions. We're talking about perennial playoff contenders. We're not talking about a quarterback that quarterback the Dallas Cowboys for ten years and has two playoff victories on his entire decade long resume. That's what we're talking about here with Tony Romo. Now understand that you don't win the Super Bowl. I do get that, but you know what? Danny white didn't win the super. We sit up in the fact that you know what? Okay. He wasn't Roger starbuck, but he could ball in the Dallas Cowboys win the playoffs. And they were making noise and they lived up to the mantra of America's team. They weren't a joke. They won't be summarily dismissed. They want the job. So Saturday Night Live and everywhere else. They didn't have people like me looking at it and talk about. Hot, go to America was a great country. What are you talking about? Merica team. What the hell is the Dallas Cowboys done as max would say in the last twenty three years, ten of those years, Tony Romo was the quarterback. You got to win three playoff games minimum in one year to win the Super Bowl. This man ain't went to play away. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on this. Let me. Let me ask you a quick lawyer. You say Tony Romo was a ball, correct? He bald right? He was no scrub now. I don't think it's fair to Tony Romo to compare him to era where we had Choi eight-minute Ammon Smith, Michael Irvin. Arrogant man. Air and Roussell that we haven't heard from well yet. That's right. That's right. From the voice of I'll take that area and I'm not long. Gets annoyed with voiceover thority zip, their credibility to say that I don't. Lexus. Your annoyance level is at a zero of care for me, I don't care. How would you say what you tug on your white undershirt get loosened up? 'cause I'm coming. Okay. Two. Damion. Let me tell you something Damien. Troy. Aikman, Roger, starbuck. Stephen Abrams up. Danny white proud franchise. Five, Super Bowls. Three of them came in the Jerry Jones era. The Stephen a. brings up, do you know who leads his franchise in yards touchdowns completion percentage like advanced at yards per attempt one, Tony Romo you don't like those areas of changed. How about this fourth quarter comebacks, Tony, Romo game. Bryce Lena passing league game. Winning drives the Tony Romo, but here's the thing, although it's a given, he'll be in the ring of honor. I'm gonna tell you one more thing now yet. Do you know what I think now yet? I don't think he should be done. I think Tony Romo could step in to, I don't know what handful of teams the NFL right now be a starting quarterback and lead them to success. He's a year and a half removed for three quarters headaches quarters, and he gets hurt. All it takes his one shot. Man, one Damian that applies to everybody in life. All it takes is one shot. Yeah, but. Yeah, but. Noticed about, I got, I got, you know, what will I'll give y'all a simple question sask just asking, I understand that Jerry Jones three Super Bowl rings. I totally get that with urban, Emmett, Troy and all this other stuff. I get that one thousand nine hundred. They haven't done anything since all I'm saying is this of quarterback that is quarterback, Joe t- for ten years and has two playoff victories to show for it that don't bother you. Can I just say one thing in response to that based on the last conversation we had in retrospect, as we look at Tony romo's career, can't we all come together on this, whatever he did statistically playoff victories, playoff losses. Can't we all agree now he did it in spite of Jason Garrett. He did in spite of the coaching staff, whatever he did he did with wasn't. To be fair Bill parcell and to be family Phillips. Tony Romo years came between ofensive line for the Cowboys were they had a great offensive line in the nineties, a great one. Recently, he did not have that kind of protection. Fortunately, we're out of time, Damon, you will be back with us a little bit later. We'll Cain. We'll check you it on radio, the Wilkin show three to six eastern ESPN radio ESPN news after the Stephen Smith show. My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom. My first experience with jewel. I do remember being like this. It's good. It's it's, it's like a cigarette, but not. I don't miss smoking at all. Like I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette Asher lingering odor make the switch and j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Sportscenter right now on other Collins season number sixteen officially beginning for LeBron James, the three-time NBA champion joined his Lakers teammates for their first official practice yesterday. Afterwards during the media session LeBron was thrown for a loop by one reporter's question on the LA fan base expect to earn their respect in earn their loyalty, the fan base. The fan base. The man to say they wanna see you respect. Deal. You want me to. Talk to them outside of here yesterday, send some for your deal. I'm here so. Hit me. I know what I brings him. Say won't a floor. Now back to I take. The Brian was a film that question. He's like, who me right LeBron he's right. I mean four year commitment, but he's right for a couple of reasons. So let's get into it. So what does he need to do to be accepted by these Lakers fans in particular? Well, first of all, in terms of a couple of things, a couple of Lay's to this. Let me get the obvious out of the way. Nobody needs to be asking LeBron James a question about respect. He's the best player in the world, the greatest player in the world. He's the three time champion. He's been a nine MBA found is the four time lead people to hell. You mean respect. Okay. And in the six year he's still recognizes the best of the world. So of course he's going to sit up there and look at respect. How did this person asked me that question. They bring up the word loyalty. He's there and four year comment. That's where he from the question loyalty. Because how the hell are you asking him about loyalty demand signed a four year deal to a franchise that hasn't been at the playoffs at five years. That's what are we talk about loyalty. So let's get that out. The way, but let me take this to the next level in terms of what he owes, the city, a Los Angeles. You owe the machine. And here is why, because as I said earlier, there is no superstar in the history of the Lakers franchise that has Donna purposely go other than Elgin Baylor who retired the year. They won the title year. They want to tease and he retired that year. Okay. And this is after you lost eight finals. Okay. So again, the one chance he had to get it is, oh eight. He, you know, he retired that year. Be clear about something. Where you are megastar the magnitude of LeBron if you don't win a championship in LA, you pretty much would have been only one that didn't do it outside of Belgium, Bill, Mike, and did it Jabbar day we'll cable it, did it shack, did it magic? Did it Colby, did it, etc. The superstar. Jerry West, of course, the superstars every mega superstar who has played for the Lakers has won a chip. So in the floor years that LeBron has committed to Los Angeles, you don't want to be the one guy that didn't bring it home. You covered that I was going to bring that up, but you covered it already. I want to add two things. One. There are a lot of Lakers fans all over the world. They're the number one franchise in the history of basketball. It's not close. Sorry, Celtics fans. There championships, have come all in the modern era, practically out of the sixteen ten of them have come since nineteen seventy nine, nine hundred eighty two, the Celtics, four. So the Lakers are the brand magic Showtime, the whole thing. But there are also a lot of Kobe fans because the events metrics don't love Kobe as much as they should because the game changed underneath Kobe's feet and it doesn't value values efficiency more and LeBron getting all this love is is he challenging? Jordan is the greatest player of all time and Kobe fans know what they saw. They lived through that era. Kobe was basically Michael Jordan, almost the same game, almost the same results. He was it's not even fair to call a Michael Jordan light. He was close and they don't see him getting the love. So they have Kobe has his own fans, many of them. There's an overlap in the Vendee Graham. Kobe fans and Laker fans the shaded areas big. But that doesn't mean all Lakers fans or Kobe fans, vice versa. Kobe fans are jealous about LeBron they're mad and they're jealous because he's getting love in a way that they feel what you guys already forgot about. Kobe won championship. If you're a Laker superstar, you gotta win one. I feel the brunt. He's like, look at a four year deal. I'm committed to your sorry franchise recently. You guys should be kissing my but not asking me. These questions is right about that actually, but Lakers fans like all right, man. But this is the expectations in LA one championship is necessary, but you really want to forget about win too. And he's in, you know, Wilt Chamberlain is not loved in LA the way shack or Cooper or magic or Kareem is, and it's not just about he happened longer ago. It's not just about that. It's about the length of time to go down. You know, Kobe this whole career. There Wilt Chamberlain Spencer, but one of the things I was only going to be there. I was only going to be like LeBron was this unstoppable all time. Great force who got there at the end. You win a couple in l. a. you're in, you're in the inner sanctum. He's going to need to win a couple. Let me get to the team that's going to be standing in their way. So after the season Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson, we'll both be up for max jails and if they both stay, the warriors will have a projected luxury tax Bill, one hundred and thirty eight million dollars. When asked if this was the last ride for this team, Steve Kerr said, the warriors aren't looking at this like a final dance max. How realistic is it that Steve's Kerr's wishes come true? It's realistic, but it hinges on one thing and that Steph Curry's health. You can change any other part on the warriors even dream on green. If you had the right kind of player, like if you swapped out dream on for Saint PJ Tucker, I'm not saying they would be quite as good, but this doing the championship if you swapped out clay for, I can think of guys. I mentioned Danny green and a good year. They're still gonna win the championship. If you swapped out Kevin Durant for Paul, Georgia's some fact simile even if it's not. Quite as good. They're still the point is whether or not even they win the championship. That's still the warriors. There's going to be right there. It's about Steph, curry, if Steph stays healthy Steven, he's the only non replaceable part on that team. If Steph stays healthy, they got a shot because every other part you can mix and match and bring in an approximation for can't do that with Steph. Yeah, the differences though he can't do as much by himself as the others could do, and that's why you need somebody to be there, which is why the focus has to be on a or warriors organization as opposed to Steph. Steph is locked in at two hundred, seven million dollars. Klay Thompson does not want to leave at least at this particular moment in time he's given every indication that he wants to stay, but he hasn't signed that extension. So to be interested, interesting. What they're going to do with him. Do you then pay Draymond green, who's a vital component to their success? Do you pay Kevin Durant? Assuming he wants to stay? Do you make a choice between those two? And if so, who do you. Pick and by the way now that you've got Anthony Davidson mix, Anthony Davis, Asaba clutch boys, and because of one reason. And one reason only they can talk about whatever they want to talk about. Anthony Davis ain't standing in the right he's out. So you're talking New York. You're talking l. a. you're talking Golden State. Those are the teams to keep the is on now and to a lesser degree Boston because of the parts that they have. You know, in the event that you want to trade somebody and you get him, even though I don't see that happening. The point that I'm trying to make is that that's what you're looking at with Anthony Davis, and we're right now. What you're seeing is the focal point being paid to Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis because wherever one goes the others not going and it might compel the other either stay go to stay or go to go state because Kevin Durant leaves. So you just never know in the end. Joe lake up this man and his ownership group is willing to spend the money to move that they're having to San Francisco is significant because they're printing money. I, I spoke to people at that paid for season tickets that were paying one hundred and forty thousand a year and the prices. Has gone up to over half a million dollars. Why? Because with the new arena and San Francisco and everything else, they'll be printing money. They got the money to do it that ain't got the money to do it. And so when you look at it from that perspective, it's a matter of, okay, this team was Steve Kerr says what he says, what you really are you really talking about keeping these boys intact or keeping a couple and transit what means end up just keeping the secure what you're saying by the way, just as an aside, just quickly, Anthony Davis with a healthy Kristaps Porzingis on the Knicks or Anthony Davis on Boston or any team. You mentioned AD going to your like you get like, chills, thinking about what could happen, but that's you're making my point. That's what I mean. You can swap out these different parts. It still the warriors, the one irreplaceable part, the hardest guy to swap out is Steph. That's why I'm saying if Steph stays health and that's not even. You can get. Zadie algebra because he signed the on the healthy, the issues the he's had, an injury can both leave k. d. can leave. So all three of them. Sports in a right now. I'm on the Collins a day after being bench for true freshman, Trevor Lawrence, Clemson, quarterback, Kelly, Brian missed practice on Tuesday for undisclosed reasons. And today's announce he is transferring schools under new unsuitability retro guidelines by leaving Clemson. Now, Brian can salvage his final Europe eligibility. He has not decided where he will spend it. Brian told this to the Greenville news quote, I feel like it's what's best for me and my future. I was just going to control what I could control and try to make the most of my opportunity. But at the end of the day, I just don't feel like I've got an affair shot. Here's coach Dabo Sweeney this morning of Bryant's decision. Disappointed that he's chosen to leave the team, but I really have absolutely nothing bad that I say about Kelly, Brian. He's one of the best young people I've ever been around. And even though I don't think this is a great decision. I certainly respect respect it and it doesn't change anything that I feel for Kelly. All I can say is, is another program wherever wherever we decided to go going to get a quality quarterback in a very quality young man, and we appreciate everything that Kelly gave with this program. You know what's so perfect. Paul finebaum just showed up just in the nicotine you as always try to save the show after Kevin Hart was here shaved. Now. Roasted me, he rose to me call the past, but we'll deal with that later. Excuse me while I I'm just tempted because I was listening to dabble. And I gotta ask you this question and your estimate, was he fair to Kelly? Bryant? He was Kelly. Bryant had the job. He he lost it, and that's the way it goes. I I don't like the way he he's uttered that parting shot, but that's his business. I think Davos Sweeney could have misled him and started him this week, and then he couldn't have left. You would have handcuffed them instead. He gave him the truth, which is what college coaches should do, and they all don't. What do you are you saying? I wasn't given a fair shot. He started last year. He led the team to the national semifinals. He was good, not great. And this year us given a fair shake, in other words, think so. By the way he did, I think without Kelly Bryant, they wouldn't have beaten Texas am. So maybe I'm sure that's within his his DNA. But in the end, Trevor Lawrence is the heir apparent. I don't think Clemson could win a national championship with Kelly Bryant. I think they showed that lecture, Alabama, shut him down in that semifinal game. I'm not saying they can with Trevor Lawrence, but I think they have a better chance. I was just going to ask you to back it up and you touched on some of it in terms of just how we got to this position. We got this because there's this new rule that went into effect this summer and just think about this for a second. Molly I mentioned the Alabama Clemson game last year, the national semifinal the two starters once gone from Clemson, the other one has been relegated to backup. That's how things change. So quickly. I know the in the NFL it you can turn on a dime, but that's a different sport college football. We're not accustomed to this, but we've already seen it at the highest level. Clemson and Alabama are the two best programs in the country. And the starter in last year's game is that is that is part of the reason they're the best programs in the country is because they are willing to do these kind of things. Yes, I think so. No Daboh has handled the differently than Nick Sabin. I think he was very upfront shaven baby the situation with Jalen hurtin. It looks like he's going to get away with it. I don't think Jalen hurts is going to bail out now, but gave it hurts situation with Brian is a little bit different. Jalen hurts. If he left today, which still have two years it, Brian had played Saturday against Syracuse. He's done. He couldn't go anywhere. So there's a big difference. Trevor Lawrence talked to me about this guy because again, you went to the national college football playoff you were competing for national championship with Kelly Bryant. You pointed out how you helped you, Texas, and the obviously has a quality skill set. Talk to the nation about Trevor Lawrence of what discovery to the table that's essentially justifies dabbled saying Kelly, Bryant, you can leap. I think it's similar to what we were to eat. Some more much more complete quarterback. He's a much better passer and Kelly, Brian Kelly, Brian did not have a great skill set, and I think what you have in Davos Sweeney and Nick Sabin, and perhaps even with urban Meyer, he went through a three quarterback situation for years ago is that it's no longer good enough just to have a good starter and try to get to your championship game. These. These guys are all at the at the highest level. And I think Sabin and dabble are thinking, can I win the title with this guy? And the answer is no, we're going to make a change and we're going to make a change now every year. It seems like just changing too because the Stanford game against Oregon was unbelievable. And every year it feels like they don't have the talent now. Right? Like they're not. And then David Shaw somehow has them in a situation where they're going to. Notre Dame. Can they win at Notre Dame? I don't think so. But the factor in this position is all due to Mario Cristobal who just flat out blue that game insurance been talked about. You down the ball, you take a knee. The game's over it's inexcusable. I really feel badly for those Oregon players, but Stanford took advantage of it max and I'm not ready to proclaim Notre Dame a great team because they beaten good, not great Michigan team, and they went on the road and beat white cars. I haven't really done much more, but I think at home in that environment at night, there's a lot added energy that I think will propel them to a narrow victory over Stanford. One of the things I'm paying attention to because of this, the SEC's system, I'm paying attention that LSU they're undefeated. They climb climbing the charts, their fifth in the AP poll or whatever. Then I'm looking at this quarterback, Joe borough, and I'm saying, man is completing forty, nine percent of his passes. And I just say to myself once again, LSU doesn't have a passive gain. What what is going on at LSU? What do you think about this team? And how far do you think they can go in light of what I just pointed. Out. I don't think they can go very far and the reason is very simple. The schedule will eat them alive. They have Georgia coming up in a few weeks at home. They have Mississippi State which debatable, and then they have Alabama. If you can't be Georgia, Alabama, and it's bad luck that they get Georgia this year and they also go to Florida, which is their cross rival. I see. At least we lost his job. Earl is he's an upgrade from what they had, which was nothing. LSU has not a quarterback, I think since Menton burger and he was transferred from Georgia. So that's been the undoing of less miles and whether it's Dan doing that ores Ron, I'm not sure, but he's this is just a quick fix right now. I'll talk to me. I would deem the biggest game of the weekend, Ohio State Penn State, ranked fourth and ninth respectively. Urban Meyer's back. How big of a test is it's going to be for him or. I think it's massive. And I think if you look, where are the most difficult places to play in America? I think on a Saturday night, Happy Valley. It has to be one of the top two or three. And we're going to, we're going to find out. I think I still believe this is a really great football team. Losing Bosa hurts, hurts them badly, but I'm, I'm going to give them a slight edge to get out of there. And if they do that, they have overcome their toughest Haskett the you'd think they got a shot to be better than Clemson? Yes. Right now, I think Alabama and Ohio State are the two teams country. I, I'm just not impressed Thompson. I think it's evident by what Daboh did he. He's not happy either. They still can't understand them struggling. I watched am last weekend's, Alabama, Alabama played. It's a b, minus e plus game. And I had almost they probably should have had a four, five touchdown win they. They had a pedestrian twenty three point victory which no one was happy about, especially because they didn't cover the spread. Always. He's usually fashioned police, but I really like this whole look today. I wanted to make you more to keep up with the doing just fine. I'm breaking the Bank. I think this Wednesday appearance. I got you. Yep, you guessed it. I'm a speed bump, so I've got one job. I slow you down. So imagine how I feel about Geico who does way more like not only could they save you money on car insurance, but they've been around for over seventy five years, giving people fast and friendly claim service. Ow. Plus they got an empty mobile app that gives you twenty four, seven access ow. Just doing my job buddy Geico expect great savings and a whole lot more. American football ESPN NFL power rankings are out with the undefeated Rams, taking the top spot followed by the undefeated chiefs, the eagles Jags and saints round out the top five Damien Woody backing with us back. So I'll start with you which seems more likely to make the Super Bowl, the Rams because they're the best team. It's not that hard a conference you play, whatever else. The Rams are loaded everywhere. Special teams like FM everywhere. The three phases of the game, all their phases are better than everyone else's phase practically, they're just as good. They are absolutely loaded. And really the question comes down to how is Jared Goff gonna play in the playoffs. Right? Like last year, there was a sense about the Rams, but actually the saints were the favorite pick of a lot of people including me. 'cause you trusted drew Brees in the playoffs. You weren't sure about golf. This team is better than it was last year. Jared Goff know, has playoff experience. They are the best team in football. And when you look at the other contenders. Where's the? I'll let you guys have the chiefs, but where's the defense will listen. I think. Thank you looking at it from the wrong, the wrong angle. Here I'm going to go with the path of least resistance. When you look at between the two teams, we let you always argue with listen, when you look at the chiefs, we all everyone knows about pet Mahomes in an office, a fire power that they have. But when you look at the AFC as conference compared to NFC clearly, we know that the NFC is stacked with possible contenders that could come out at that conference when you when you look at the AFC usually talking about the usual suspects, New England, his Berg, but who else is really out there that you can just definitively say that they could possibly possibly get in the way of the Kansas City as opposed to the NFC where you have a plethora teams that could even even as great as the Los Angeles Rams. Look, there's teams in net conference that could trip up the Rams on their way to a Super Bowl. So I gotta go with the Kansas City Chiefs. That's why I'm going. And the reason why I'm going also because of this reason, the Rams plate and this fall. The opened the season against the raiders you have to deal with overrated nation. John gruden's turned all of that hoopla and stuff like that associated within it in the second half reality slap them in the face because there was no Khalil Mack to get to Jared Goff. And what have you game number two. You're going up against Sam, Bradford and ONA cardinals, and we know how pathetic that they are this year. So when we look at it from that perspective, bottom line is this. I look at the Los Angeles Rams and I'm not questioning or doubting them any stretch, but I'm more impressed what I have seen from the Kansas City Chiefs who are absolutely prolific and lethal offensively. I know he's a lot because of Patrick Mahomes my mentality has been, have you seen Kareem hunt entire eek hill and Travis Kelsey and Sammy Watkins? Have you seen these guys get so open? And you see them protection that he's been given, sitting back drawing, pay know, taking pictures call and his girl telling them what? And he going to be home, call a mom and pop saying, got loved the y'all. I'll be home that hold on a second. Let me throw this. In just a second end and not get back to answering the call. This is how comfortable this man has been in the pocket throwing a football for the Kansas City Chiefs. So I'm looking at it from the perspective that collectively offensively they have been lethal and I don't believe the Los Angeles challenge. Look at look, Stephen, they can't stop anyone and I'll tell you about the I agree they seen weaker in the NFC, but these things are hard to tell actually come playoff time. Like, do I know that the that, let's say the Vikings and the saints and the eagles are going to be tougher than the Jags and the chargers the chiefs week. One beat the chargers. You know why they beat the chargers other than the fact that Mahomes is out of his mind and all those weapons. You mentioned Stephen a. and they got a quarterback whisperer for a coach and all that stuff. They also beat them because the because Philip rivers normally very sure handed receivers. He kept dropping dimes and they kept dropping the ball. Otherwise, I think the chargers probably win that game. And when they get Bosa back, I think they're going to be the class of the AFC. But you also have a team like Jacksonville with a great. Defense and playoff experience. I'm just saying when you can't stop anyone and the chiefs can't stop anyone. Allows yards tough for me to say happy for today for one thing that is interesting about the Rams and I want to get your thought on this. I know that formidable defense and they've got sue and Aaron, Donald and all that. But they're actually allowing five yards per rush that's twenty-seventh in the NFL. So they've struggled a little bit stopping the run, which is surprising on top of that, you've got both Qantas hurt right now, and they're going to be missing. You know, from the reports going to be missing significant time. That's that's gonna. That's gonna play play into this whole thing. Put again, I'll go back to, I'm if I'm putting if I'm putting money down. And I'm looking at the conferences. I want to take the conference that's weaker. Give me the more likely chance of getting to the Super Bowl in the least the least resents us the passing of this ranch. Like they had to thin out the defense in order to get Dominic and sue and stuff like that. They had to do sign Todd Gurley, and that the bring in those corners who are now hurt. But if this was heading into the playoffs, I would agree, but actually an injury like injuries like that kind of happened at the right time early in the season, assuming health for those players because member, they're not going to have to play these games. Now they're going to be back at full strength guys. They're just loaded a house. I wanna see, I wanna see him. I wanna see him tomorrow night when they play Minnesota by Minnesota Vikings that got their hands stomped on by the Buffalo Bills, you don't think they to balance your home without. Without without their corners on that. The only thing that annoys me about Max's position is that it comes from you, and here's what I mean by that you cover boxing, there's a lot of guys that look pretty until they get hit. You know that better than anybody. I do not understand for the life of me why you repeatedly ignore that when it comes to other sports who you're competing against matters. If a guy sat in front of max Kellerman and he sat up there and he was in a ring and he was shadow boxing, maximum max would not go like this. Damn, he looks really, really good match will go like this. Let me see you get hit and then I will pass judgment. But when it comes to football players and basketball, these other. Real quick. They both played the chargers, the Rams and the chiefs, and the Rams beat the chargers much more handily than the chiefs did. And when the chiefs beat the chargers, it was due to receivers dropping the ball if you at the judge just on the common opponent Rams better real quick because we gotta go saints or eagles. Who do you like better? Saint so eagles? Yeah. I'm gonna head say eagles. Okay. To say right now, the saints defense is a senior. Right now Damian appreciate you. We will help you. It hasn't been the start. The Jon Gruden was hoping for starting, oh, and three, but says they will turn it around. He also said that while he thinks Derek Carr has played well under very tough circumstances. He thinks cars trying too hard at times max, you concur with that? No, I don't think that's what's going on. First of all, if the head Khalil Mack, they'd be two in one. I think it's pretty obvious. They're missing a pass rush. He's the best in the game. I told everyone before the season, that guy is going to be the best defensive player in football this year. I think I was right so far. The issue is this on offense. Amari Cooper has to get the ball period and you got a quarterback whisperer and Jon Gruden offense of guru who always has that stud wide receiver. And you have a quarterback with a big arm, and you have a guy who is big fast. Smart does everything will why isn't he getting the ball? If Amari Cooper gets the ball, if you target him consistently, the offense will work. And if not, you're gonna continue to lose games. We have no disagreement here. Amari Cooper has targeted eighteen. So has Jalen rich and you look at Gerry Jordy Nelson comes over from Green Bay. He's thirty three years of age, so has some speed on them. We understand it, but he's not what it used to be. He's been targeted sixteen times and you got Jared cook has been talking to twenty times what you see is a Gruden offense that spreading the floor around your dishes. -ly respite in a ball around judiciously. But what you don't see is an Oakland Raiders squad that is recognizing a young stud that they had that have back to back thousands yard seasons before he got injured and then came back last year and struggled last year. You don't see the rate of saying, this is odd guy deal with this man. You see Jon Gruden trying to show his brilliance as an acute off of offense of football mind. And as a result, the defense has been compromised because you let go a Khalil Mack and offense. You're compromising debit card because you're not really developing true chemistry would a pride of guy. You need. Who's the young? It's always easy in football is like naming the star player. In this case, it is Khalil. Mack goes Amari. Cooper is not Amari Cooper because you won't get on the bowl. He is there any way to defend him. Trading Cleal MAC, I know he'll name a few seconds. Left of depends on how it's this. It's the thought process that you've got a lot of holes to fill and that you're going to remake your team with guys who you pick and if you hit on those first round draft picks than yes, one has nothing to do with the other. But if I if I could find one hundred million dollars for coach that has a one as a coach in ten years, and then went one to win a playoff game in the previous Dix dam shook Afam money for Khalil Mack out of found money for Khalil. Mack Ness. Yeah. Thanks so much real thing to the podcast. Could I take weekdays, ten AM eastern on ESPN.

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French Trump Weekly Press Conference July 24, 2020

Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone

09:22 min | 2 weeks ago

French Trump Weekly Press Conference July 24, 2020

"And now we take you live to French trump's weekly press conference. Desire French president on trump here for the French. President trump press co fell rawls. I shall now take questions from ZIP porous. Trust your. Say Mr President Few Shahal, Buzzfeed News, the secret police that have been deployed in Portland, Oregon who wear military style uniform with no insignia, name tags, and both attacked and abducted, peaceful protesters who they throw in the back of unmarked vans. Why is this happening? Z. Reasons are being thrown as backups the unmarked van because they have not had hoses front-seat didn't need to. After they're handcuffed and they are being pushed towards van Zandt need to say. The A front-seat next question next Jones was president is. Mr. President, thank you Mr President Karen Van Carlson Oh. A N, am I correct that there have been no attacks from outer space you created the Space Force uniforms sank. You can run. Is that true I hadn't thought about it? But yes, that's right and effect news. Stream news then never cover what hasn't happened. That's red zone. Not what attack? Thank you Karen next John Next Question John. MRS Yeah! Thank you Mr President Tony Romo with ABC. TV Yes, Donny yech! Mr President. Why are you pushing schools to reopen with students in the classroom, and even threatening to withhold money from those who don't despite what the Science and the data tells us well turney its event. Ga She's driving me crazy every day. Will you kept me more foreign trademark so I can sell my shit. Aboard cannot go to. What's the protesters Baton Papa? Can't we have to park cleared with tear-gas again? Can we shoot someone? Papa. LAUNDER MONEY Can't we skim off the top of someone else's charity? CAN WE DIG UP? See Tennis Courts and see how much see bodies have decomposed I can't take it anymore. Tony I want her back in school next question. Is. Yes! You you show hall. Buzzfeed News Mr President why are you holding corona virus press briefings without doctors. Well Zach just goes to show what you knew. Pinky Dr Barracks is just outside the door, just briefings. If you listen closely, you can hear her scratching door, and and trying to bang her head on the door and shout. Wrong. Man Woman Camera TV West. Kippur. President thank you Gary Gander New, York you said in your interview with Chris Wallace that you have seen and read stuff that makes you say that schools are teaching our students to hate our country. What exactly is it that you saw red Sir our read Zip. Book and ventures of Liberal Democrat mouse who hates is contrary as a teacher reading that book allowed to an elementary school classroom, and the kids were crying next question next John. Independent. Mister you just yes, Mr President Emmett Manning New York News Day. Many people began in public service for a reason, President Obama says he was led by his Christian Faith Nancy Pelosi's father was Mayor Baltimore and she heard her father guiding immigrants to agencies. That can help them so often. She learned to answer their questions Hillary. Clinton worked with the Children's Defense Fund. So, what did you to public service? My Christian faith up Mr President. Your Niece Mary said that your sister Maryanne trump. Barry was baffled by your. Evangelical supporters because you only went to church if the cameras were running. Well, she is a fucking beach. Referring to your sister or your news? Yeah, bus motherfucking! Thinking might be genetic. I'm saying many. Don't ask me about easer observed fucking pigs ever again. Yes Sir understood getting back to be guided by your Christian faith. What aspect of Christianity or you gotTa Buy for example? Do you know the ten commandments of course I did a do not ten commence Zahle Shout. down. For me. Zahle shall have no other gods before. And I. Never have had a advent few. God's more than anyone. In the world, people are amazed to. How did you that? Thou shalt not make unto. Any craving image Zahle Shop, not make onto any graven image. That's a good one and I almost did once I almost made. And then I remember D. Commandment. Take the name of the Lord. She's giving. She's giving him the. Karen Carlson of Owen is giving him the answers. To. This or you're cheating on the Ten Commandments. Do you have a question? Do Sir do you are running ads that dramatize this idea that if Biden is elected, the police won't answer the phone in an emergency. Biden has said he does not support in any way eliminating the police. So why do you keep making that claim because it is true? If ben is elected president, don't no one answers if. But then doesn't inches if phone, I've tried to call him in his base. I got his machine. It said you have reached Joepat Dan. Jilin I cannot come to fund right now because we are out. This suburbs next question yes Jones. Thank. You thank you Mr President. Tony Romo again with ABC News Tony Mr President Thank you, sir, you said You aced the Montreal cognitive assessment tests, and that you have said it because you have a very good memory. Turney right Tony Romo. Right MR PRESIDENT BUT MR president. If that's the case, if that's the case, sir. Were your written answers to the mother investigation questions riddled with the phrases. Recall and I have no independent recollection. Read Tony! Didn't ask me what day it is, and there were no elephants pitchers to identify. How was I supposed to remember at least one hundred and forty contacts between my campaign and Z. Russians? This is a media trap Tony Romo. Go see rats in your covent infected pizza shop next question next West John. I! Guess you. You. Emmett Manic Newsday. Many Americans are worried about getting sick. What should a person do man woman camera? 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Hour 2 1/21/19

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Hour 2 1/21/19

"Bedale podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card or four percent cashback on dining entertainment two percent at grocery stores. One percents on all purchases. What's in your wallet donlevatar show on ESPN radio? Dan, limit dark show on ESPN radio and ESPN app presented by progressive insurance. Guess appear by the shell Pennzoil performance. I'm Mike Golic junior. Jason Fitz in for the guys. Sportscenter sirri. Serena Williams beat number one seed Simona Halep to reach the Australian Open quarter-finals Williams emerged with the six one four six six four victory. The Thirty-seven-year-old American is trying to win an eighth championship. But melborn parked and a record tying twenty four th grand slam overall for the Lakers. Lonzo ball expected to miss four to six weeks with a grade. Three left ankle sprain. An Mre revealed the extent of the injury suffered Saturday against the rockets and the leakers cleverly announced it Sunday minutes after the Rams one to go to the Super Bowl and things you won't believe Canadian city is taking on a Norwegian city in a battle for the ultimate bragging rights world's tallest moose statue. So mayor Frazier told me of moose jaw scotch wan said, his statue MAC, the moose. Held the record for thirty one years until it was taken over in two thousand fifteen by a silver. Moose told me said a fundraising campaign is underway to hire an engineer to tackle the problem of making MAC taller. The quotes can Canada's national pride is on the line. And we can't lose it to Norway over a moose. He said if you missed our entire interview, by the way today with Jeff Saturday, go check out the entire interview to ban. The Dan Le Batard podcast brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining entertainment, two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Dan lebatardshow Jason Fitz, Michael junior. I got nothing on the Meuse. We've never lost to a moose. Well, it's a fun. Fact you ever seen a moose yet jareth? I mean, any animal deserves a statue. It's a moose well in country country music act spent a lot of time in Canada's. So I've spent my time in candidates beautiful up there. I love cannon actually quite a bit. I just don't know why you don't make just make the feet feet bigger lead. You can say it doesn't feel like something you really need all that much help from an engineer on just prop up the base a little bit more, and you've gotta taller moose. Well, we need all the help. We can get from ESPN NFL front office insider Louis Riddick who joins us on the shell Pennzoil performance line Lewis. If you were sitting there today as the GM of the chiefs, would you be clamoring for change to the overtime system? Yeah. I probably would be also be sitting there right now. Like, I'm sure breath dates general manager is doing. Positive and trying to figure out what my friends he planted. What my up draft was going to be back to their to be doing a lot of things right now. But yeah, the overtime rule. It is unfortunate that I couldn't get my MVP caliber quarterback on the field and have a chance to. Even that game and extend that game even longer. But you know, those rules are is what it is. But quite honestly. Volley? Kansas City was both strategy. And you know, a personnel visits silent ball, which we talked with all of your people talked about any came home to roost in a band way yesterday. And then what is really devastating loss for Louis C? You mentioned the strategy portion. What did you see that stunned you as far as the way the chiefs decided to approach this game? Well, they pretty much were in that fourth quarter and in overtime. Pretty much playing with ten died because one when they're playing singles safety defenses, and then dropping a safety down and selectively doubling somebody their free safety was twenty twenty five yards deep, and basically we've taken himself out of the place, but he was a non factor. So I mean, I don't know what they thought they were playing a team that repeatedly was indeed shot on him because but they weren't. So they really replacement ten guys. And then they're double teams button, you know, discipline a from techniques standpoint, the Renault rewrite the Renault rerouted the line the person who was doing the way was unsure was not very aggressive. The whole plan is at the end of the game to make sure that it wasn't element in that. It wasn't grog for the one that Tom kept looking for Tom kept going to over and over which is what he was doing. Same types of routes, making sure surely secure the end of the past protections letting those guys working middle field, you they kept doing it. And they had no answer for it. Did nothing to change it. Their inability to kind of figure out what to do on the stag releases where they're trying to pick people and get guys out of position in management. Covers it costs them to target game. Earlier this year at the end of the game. It costs them then they're depending on how to handle that they weren't for how to handle it yesterday. And it really wanna divas the former defense guy to see those kind of mistakes dip repeated it says mine is my numbing gut wrenching. If you are looking at it from Tennessee standpoint, it real from New England standpoint is brilliant coaching did not really really coaching. It's common sense coaching like if you're going to keep doing this. You're gonna keep trying to defend those like this. You're not going to do anything to change it. There's Martin enough to know. Hey, we don't need to go any go to anything else in our playbook. We'll just keep doing the same thing. Unlike some coaches will go well, I just called that play. I don't want to call it again 'cause everybody. How smart I want us all the plays on this menu. That I got that sitting here in front. Talking to Louis Riddick are data. That sorry about that Lewis talking to Louis Riddick. Art ESPN NFL front office inside or on the shell Pennzoil performance line. But it is true. It's the ultimate bit of common sense isn't common when it comes to all this stuff. And the patriots seems to hammer that you with that over and over again Louis just sort of as a post mortem on this one, obviously you were first to market, I'm Patrick Mahomes, and a lot of ways on this network, and we've certainly had our fun, especially with golick and wingo touting up, you know, Paula Famer Patrick Mahomes of what he's done this season. But as you sit down and you go into an off season his first off season where he will come back as a returning starter. What are the things that you saw from him even in a season where he threw fifty touchdowns and five thousand yards that you think he can really improve on going into year two as a starter. Packing. The one on is making sure that he able to teams are trying to MAC with him play zero coverage Senator looks at him that he knows how to set the protection such that he can be protected as possible number one. Number two, make sure he has such a high level mastery of the offense where he can get the ball out fast and not take any unnecessary hit or take bad sacks or things of that nature. So willy that the cerebal part of the game as far as making sure he has answers when people really try to put him in harm's way with them types of Russia packages, other than that look pet is already shown he's on a much much much different level. He really is a savant as far as when he learned when he's able to do at this point is just amazing. His ability this off season to really get in the lab. Absorb speed and figure those types of things out to where I'm not saying he region, Tom and errands and pavement level in his second year starting but he's gonna take another big jump from the mental side of it. And I would expect all things will he'll come out running gun and fired away next year, and maybe even taking hot we're talking to Louis Riddick has been NFL front office inside our on the shell Pennzoil performance line. The lebatardshow Michael junior Jason Fitz in for the guys Lewis skipped to the other game. Obviously so much conversation in the NFC championship game about the clearly missed pass interference call given that call and given how important that moment was how would you expect the league in the competition committee to react to it and move forward? Yeah. I would I would expect that replaces replay was instituted in order to make sure that egregious errors in not affect the outcome of games. And you're trying to get the game as right as possible while at the same time not slowing the game down too much and think in those situations, especially when we're talking about wildcard divisional championship games that lead to the Super Bowl. And in two minutes, maybe even fourth quarter situation, sadly overtime situations. However, they were working out that read that all plays become reviewable because they were to raise who had is on that play within within five yards of that play tenure that play to reveries at is on there staring right at it. They're literally staring right at not a single one of them plays and make the call. I don't even know if you consider that air people wanna try out, the notion that hey that human element that human. I don't know. What? Where'd you wanna use for us in that area in that situation? When two guys are looking at it. I heard people say will maybe they didn't have yet. They did they had not one guy too. So in that case, I I don't know if there'd be penalties as far as missing that kind of call and that kind of game I mean, but those choices where people, you know, in the league office that are monitoring these games. And watching these days they have to step in they have to be able to set in. And they look we clearly missed something right here that materially affected the outcome of championship game where the Super Bowl Gerke on the line replay has to be used in that situation. It's no coal. Sean Payton to talk to near offices and say, yeah, we messed up. It's almost like a slap in the face. It almost makes it worse knowing that you have the technology to make sure that something like that doesn't have follow me on Twitter at L Riddick. ESPN? Louis Riddick ESPN NFL front office insider, we appreciate your time. Thanks for joining us. You gotta thank. That's that's quite a bit of controversy around that listen, I it's going to be a huge problem. And he's right. The one thing we did see this NFL season. That is interesting. He mentioned penalties. We saw referee lose his job in the middle of the week. After a weekend were a blatant. Call was missed in this one. And when you get to this point in the postseason, it's just like being a player supposedly, you earn your way to these games as a referee. So for someone to get to the stage and miss that agreed sleep in a game where it seemed like after that they were all afraid to do anything with their flag or whistle. Going to be very interesting to see how they handle them penalize us one. Obviously a tough morning in New Orleans. But the question is coming up player error Aref error. What's the worst way to lose? We'll break it down next. But first word from Dollar Shave Club Dollar Shave Club has everything you need to look feel and smell your best. 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I'm Jason Fitz. Win for the guys on the Dan lebatardshow on ESPN radio and the ESPN app presented by progressive insurance. And look I my heart is broken today for saints fans. And this is the analogy I used earlier I'll use it again. I still remember I remember where I was sitting. There particular memories is a raiders fan growing up that you never forget. I remember the chair. Sitting in when the raiders lost the AFC championship game fifty one two three as a child. I remember that. I remember sitting there at halftime when they were down by like forty thinking. We'll if the bills scored forty in the first half the raiders can score forty in the second half. That was not true. I remember where I was sitting narrators news. It was not true. I remember where I was sitting in my house at the time. When when I saw the the breaking news that the the raiders starting center head gone AWOL. And then I watched the Super Bowl as they got demolished by the buccaneers. I remember that moment, but neither of those moments hurt as much as the moment. I will never forget when I was sitting in remember the room. I remember where I was. And I remember sitting there saying what's to talk. I've never heard of a talk. I don't know how this could be a possible thing. And all of a sudden, you watch the tuck rule, and you know, a couple of days ago because it was just no game in a playoff game. It gets repurpose every I mean all the time it's just kicking in the butt over and over and over again. But the the funny part about it is we often forget that the tuck rule led to. A field goal in the end of regulation. Then there was a coin flip and the patriots won. That coin flip went right down score to go on the game. It's like the miracle on ice. Right. Oh, yeah. Hundred percent, we forget that wasn't a gold medal game. So I like, but I remembered the the the call that's what sort of defines that entire era. That's what it's going to be for the saints right now for these fans are gonna remember an entire era. But it raises an interesting question because frankly and the other game we saw the chiefs. Let's remember the chiefs had a game sealing interception at the end. It was over until it was oh offsides on fort. Oh, yeah. No, not even like it just as good as an offsides neutral zone infraction. Like dude was lined up agreed offsides in that game. So you had user error on his part in that game versus the rest call for the saints, which quite frankly for the saints. They can also look back into their own history of many moons ago in last year where in the miracle or the Minneapolis miracle, or whatever you call that in you have the user error on the part of your own player coming. Up not being able to make a tackle. That would have sealed the game and allows one of the more spectacular finishes ever. So what's tougher for a fan base to look back at it and say the refs job does are to look back at us and say that one guy made it like made a terrible play. Like what's tougher in that in that analogies tougher for saints last year this year is it tougher right now to be a saints fan than it was for. Let's say the bears to continually look back at Cody. And you're looking at Cody parkey saying how do you miss that field goal? Like, I can't I can't pinpoint in some ways. I think it's tougher when you watch a the refs job you over because then you're sitting there say man, we did everything even though we all know, they didn't the logic becomes we did everything we had to do to win. See I think there's levels to all these all these feel different in my mind. Like, you could have an instance where in my the easiest version to stomach is you get beat late. And it's just the other team makes a great play. If you guys are in position. And my better is better than your better. Like somebody's got to win this. We're all on scholarship that whole methodology right below that. I think is the rest because if the refs job you you're able to point and say, well, we did everything we couldn't all this the refs stole this Russ. And then as a fan you to start with the conspiracy theories and all of this us against the world kind of mentality that works and then from there on down. It is like, you know, the the boneheaded mistake of a defensive offsides which to me like that things like that that are inexcusable mistakes when you look at them. Over the course of a game. And then below that like the ninth circle. Hell is watching a kicker a kick because as much as we say, and is a former teammate of kickers would say you're part of the team and all that stuff. It feels like a separate part of the game. When you're watching it. So from from player standpoint, you did you played incredibly high level, right? What's easier for a player? Looking. What's tougher? We'll say that way for player looking at the ref saying how did you miss that? Or looking at your teammate, you know, especially like I'll use the Ford again because he was such key part of the chiefs defense issue. What thirteen sacks in afford has a big year. All of a sudden he makes the bone play the cost of the game which wants tougher to swallow from player Saint I think from a player's standpoint. It's a lot easier to all points your fingers at the referee and say that goddess like that might hurt more. But I would like that more than having to know I'm going to have to wrap my arms around a teammate that man. I just watched make a boneheaded mistake. And I'm probably a little bit upset because we're all human, and we set of that you don't get angry at a guy. That you know has done a lot for your team that you care about. But you also know all right. We're gonna have to kind of wrap our arms around this guy. Like, you have to make sure he's alright going forward all these different things that when it's an official doing it. You saw devastation that saints locker room. But I think it's a lot different than having to go in there and circle the wagons around one of your guys as opposed to just as a team to come together and say man, we just got robbed, and can I I'm just going to play a part of this for a second that nobody wants to like nobody cares about sympathy right now for people that do their job poorly. I understand that anything anybody wants to hear. But the thought of being that officiating crew in the room afterwards, and knowing you just you had your biggest moment, and you will now be forever defined by blowing your biggest moment. I can't imagine from human element. I can't imagine. What it feels like to be the ref? That's going to watch that play over and over and over again, the guys that Louis Riddick said earlier if you missed it check it out on the podcast. It was great great stuff from Louis if you he said two guys at is on it. And made the wrong. Call those guys. I don't know how you you. You can even watch out without feeling sick forever. I mean, there's a there is a tough human element to that to the rest. So there is I mean, I think the most glaring instance of that we got to see was a major league baseball member. Someone had a perfect game that got blown by making an obvious out. Call at first base or no obvious is a safe call where it was an obvious out. Everyone knew and he came out, and they let them bring the line. You know, they brought the lineup card out to him the next day, and it was really emotional. And you saw that like people feel when you rob someone else have an opportunity. That's what is going to be looked at the saints got to play more football after that. No question. But we know the outcome gets much simpler, if you just do your job and not in a way that we know there are difficult parts about being an official. No one looks at that play in sees it as one of them just in the same way. There are difficult parts about being a defensive end in the NFL. No, one sees lining up onsides as one of them. So the sympathy for Ford gets style down in a lot of them. Absolutely. Correct. Should be noted the saints. The ball. I in overtime. So I'm gonna keep chilling that coming up speaking of overtime. How do we fix it? That's next. But first I word from our friends at butcher box guys when it comes to meet quality matters. I should know professionally fat for a long time. So make the switch to put your box. Well, not that long. They cut me pretty, but I think as Satan past tense. Yeah. You called me dumb earlier. What's your boxes delivered? I stand by that. 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That's why we offer one on one partnerships and reliable business PC's with Intel core processors to help you get business done. Call eight seven seven by Dell that's eight seven seven by Dell. Michael junior Jason Fitz in. Finless all bluetooth is not always your friend. But it's a reminder, there is no more valuable thing in this world that you can do for yourself and your loved ones that just clear browser history. The coiffure like if I grab mics laptop Mike's phones if I went to Mike house everything says that he's never been to any website in history. Scrutton you you have to think about this think about if you're that guy. And by for some reason like you pass, and you go and your family or your loved ones find your electronics, and they go in there and the last memory of their loved one is that like they pull it up and they find your depraved internet search. No, absolutely not like you have right by yourself and your family and your legacy in that regard. I only imagine your mom and dad who are basically saints for dealing with you in general and the the horror of the shock and awe they would feel having to go through. And no it sounds against saintly. If you if you do right, and you live, right, you're fine. But if you're like this guy and unit connect to bluetooth and things go haywire. You gotta take the appropriate measure. I do have to wonder if you're smart enough to be the guy that says, I'll take care of the visual stuff for you. Don't worry about a thing. You should be smart enough to them be like, but I wanna make sure just. Exactly, I'll put yourself out there. Like that. That's the Dan lebatardshow my goal of junior. Tastes and Fitz presented by progressive insurance. All this conversation about if the overtime system is broken you and is squarely disagree. I think it's fine. You wanna see both teams touchable? But let's take a second. And they give some actual viable solutions. Because I will say this in my mind, I hate the college football solution for the NFL. I don't I don't want that at all. I don't bowl teams getting the ball the twenty five or thirty and and being able to just charge in and score points. It will. However, if you told me that they were going to change it to a system where every score has the opportunity to be matched in a regular football sense. Like, okay, patriots score. Then they they kick off and the chief start wherever that key kickoff takes them. They have one drive to score to match that. I mean to me that makes more sense than just saying. Well, we're going to let each offense take the ball once and then go to sudden death. If sudden death doesn't work on one possession. It doesn't work at all. So at least let me answer your missing the point of the goal in this in my. Mind because the goal is not to really fundamentally change a lot of that stuff. The goal is purely cosmetic like when you talk about the fundamentals of that because I liken it to this the way you're describing is the way everyone's played a game of beer pong. Where you've always got a rebuttal. And you've always got a chance to send it further and further, and we've all played games that have gone way too long. Now, imagine doing that with live human bodies that have already played four quarters of football. And unlike its college counterpart, you don't have seventy five plus guys dressed on game day, you got forty six. You got forty six guys. Putting on the line for four quarters already where they are taxed. So the idea of going on in perpetuity like that is terrifying. What I am proposing is simple you give each team may crack on offense both teams give chance to touch the ball. So yesterday's AFC championship game. Does not end with Patrick Mahomes. The MVP of the NFL this year. We don't have to wait 'til honors. That's gonna be it. The MVP of the NFL doesn't stand on the sideline with his helmet off for the entire overtime period. While the games decided I understand. Fences effector, but I'm saying cosmetically, you're right nothing changes about the arguments or the detriments to them from a competition standpoint. But from the standpoint of what you're providing viewers, you're giving them a look at both of the great portions of the offense that has an NFL you've prioritized with every other rule in your rulebook. If I want patching to have the ability to have the ball in overtime. I want that. Whether it's the first drive or whether it's the third drive in my mind, that's the thing. Like once we're into overtime. I wouldn't feel any better watching a home stand on the sidelines after they both scored touchdowns and the Brady went down. And did again at that point. There was no there was no it's entirely different though. In one version of this petrol homes plays no snaps in overtime in the other version, he plays at least a series and they're in. That desire for the sake of the way, you're treating this. Then what you're essentially saying if we do this, and we give them each possession. What you're saying is that Mahomes should get the opportunity to touch the ball in overtime. But not in double overtime. No. Because that's what it is. Then we go. So double overtime is a different standard than overtime. That doesn't make any sense to me. What about just like setting up a ten minute period like play play a ten minute period? Like they do in in overtime during a regular season is ten minutes long. But instead of making it sudden-death play the whole ten minute period. I mean, you can do that. If you want to again, like playing the whole ten minute period gives you a larger chance of the game going on longer. And those are all the things that the NFL is tried to curb in a number of different ways in the regular season. And that we're trying to curb still in overtime in the name of under the guise of. And I know a lot of people think it's S but player safety when you throw that all on top of it. And to me like there are portions of the sudden death element that are appealing. This to me is a miniscule tweak and since you've. Already gone from a field goal used to be able to win it to say, you know, we don't want to end the game on a field goal. We want to end the game on a scoring play. If it's going to be sudden death to now just making it sudden death after both teams of touch the ball. I'm cool with that. I think my issue with the field goal. The core. Part of the field goal ending the game is where we differ on. It is I don't think that was done because they want to touch down to end the game. Was that was done because kickers have gotten so good that it was too easy. It was too easy to end a game that way. So I don't think it was done really for a quality sake. I think it was done because it's flat out too easy. For a kicker make a kitsch too easy because kicking is a very different portion of the game one that they didn't want associated with the outcome of a contest that had gone all the way till overtime. You were letting something that seems in most people's instances largely separate from the core of what football is out deciding the outcome of a game. If if we're going to go with your plan of Mahomes gets the ball in overtime, but doesn't in this example, get it in double overtime. At least tell me, no extra points. Make them all go for too. Like, they do in the college system after a certain number. Overtimes like don't let make make it a touchdown two point conversion so that there's a chance for the game to end on the homes drive, otherwise they're just gonna kick extra points. He continued to go and go and go and go I'd be cool with that. Actually, listen, there's a number of instance, I'd be fine with you taking kicking out of certain portions of those. Because again, if we're talking about this from me take off the any sort of former player had or or ideas of competition in this. Because I think changing this change is a lot of the competition aspect of it. In fact, it just furthers that aspect even if it's only marginally, but so much of this is 'cause medic it saying man, we understand what we want to see in. This instance, giving them one more drive. Yeah. It's one more drive that might be one more drive. That's physically taxing. But then if all the same rules apply you satisfy everyone's desire to see what they came for which is the guy that led them back on charge to get a chance to do it again. And then after that, listen. Yeah. The chips fall where they may than it is I it is purely cosmetic change. The debate will rage on throughout the morning, but coming up the real star from Sunday was in the TV booth. We will talk about it. That's next. It's the Dan Le Batard show on ESPN radio and the ESPN app did not live up to our show weekdays at four eastern on ESPN radio and on the ESPN radio up. The Dan Le Batard show on ESPN radio and the ESPN app presented by progressive insurance. Guests appear on the shell Pennzoil performance. I might go junior Jason Fitz and out into the guys and Mike. I'm just going to admit it straight out. I've got I've got a new celebrity man crush, really. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I didn't think this was possible. But but my my love every single Sunday for Tony Romo, only grows and grows. So you're new on the hype train I liked it. I I liked it. So you you were just dipping a toe in the water that I mean, but let's face it. Tony's usually on like the big broadcast and like the game. I usually have the audio on is not the big broadcast raiders. So like, I don't I don't get. Here is much of the greatness. Sometimes, you know, like, you you hear some of it but not as much but my God like yesterday is I'm watching this game on fold. I'm thinking he's not he's not a quarterback. He's not an announcer. He's a golden God of radio or TV. He's golden got. He might be a goal and got a radio we let him to untapped potential left. And right and see that's the difference between you and me is much. Like Louis Riddick are ESPN NFL analysts was first market on Patrick Mahomes. This off season saying this is going to be a stud all these great predictions. The first time I heard Tony Romo. I knew like I've been in love with this guy since day one. And when you love someone you make time for them you carve out space for them in your life. So I made sure I was sitting around watching those Tony Romo broadcast games getting a little glimmer this because what we saw yesterday was definitely like a crescendo like this was the high watermark for Tony going into the Super Bowl that he's going to call what a gift to all of us because this guy yesterday when he hits man, that's the thing. He combines the best element of what you're supposed to be in the booth you'd all this energy rise by. And then he combines that with nailing every bit of football when he hits on the football. Now says he doesn't just say, oh, yeah. They're gonna hit a deep shot heroi blitz here. It's no it's the exact play. I mean it won't be yesterday. He's drawing on the on the screen is like, hey, he's gonna chip here. He's gonna chip here. And then the balls either going to gronk up top or it's going to go to Etem and crossing over depending on what the safety does. And then you're watching the play develop. Oh my God. I mean, it was like this freeze frame version of hey, guys. Instead of letting me break this down afterwards. Why show you the play? I'm gonna break it down beforehand. Like that isn't that some Nostradamus stuff right there. It's amazing because as someone who is fortunate. I've I call some college football games here at ESPN in the last couple of years in that color role in the booth and as someone who's watching consumed. I'm always really curious about what people actually want to hear when they're talking in the booth is it someone who's going to ride and give you a lot of energy think about dick by towel in college basketball. You can always feel just how much he loves. The game and loves being around these marquee events. And then on the other side of it. You've got guys that can give you really great in-depth analysis, and Tony seems to combine both in a way that so rare, and it seems so organic because so much of this knowledge, you just remember like come second-hand like when you sit around and talk to these kind of quarterbacks who have the benefit of so many reps. Either playing this practicing this watching it on tape, and you see it just sort of fall out in that. And I know he prepares for these games. But it's just a reminder of even for people that played the game the knowledge gap that exists to a certain point. And then to to your point of the energy and the dynamic in the fun. I mean at one point when we were waiting on a review about to go to commercial. He's trying to pin Nansen jam. What's gonna be what's gonna be Telesphore? We're to go back. I mean. I mean, I love the fact that he's excited like a kid in a candy store over what the call might be. And he's trying to pin in Tim Nancy give some sorta like hot take before they go to break. Well, that's also like bucking the trend like normally as the analyst in the booth. It is the job of whoever's doing play by play to put you in those positions. Tony romo's the guy that played Tony romo's the guy that lived in a bunch of these situations. And so in theory when something like that comes up Jim supposed to be able to look at Tony, Tony, what do you think you're about this call and you Tony's like, man. I don't know the answer to this one. You guys told me I'll throw it right back at your laugh because I don't care because Tony Romo is playing fast and loose up there. That's the best part about this. He's doing all this year to like, it's it's watching a cornerback like mature on the field. I said yesterday we saw some great quarterback play in the conference championship games. Tony Romo was the best quarterback at that stadium in the AFC championship game yesterday. Think in twenty years we could be looking at instead of like Madden football be Romo football. I mean that'd be in for that. Like somebody's gotta take the Madden thrown. That's what I always thought. Gruden was going to do that. I thought Gruden was gonna sit in the booth until he became such a caricature that he could become Madden and then have his own Gruden football video game. Eventually when a generation forget to John Madden was like now, I'm wondering like maybe it's Romo football. How do you create a version of Tony Romo electronically that like railroads Jim Nance at certain points to because that's the other part is you could feel in your one Jim was getting frustrated with Tony just constantly stepping on his toes? How do you like you would have to re record every year? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you can take it year to year just change if you things like every time the gym him leaning into one of those places. It's so specific I want that in Romo football where the ball's mid air. Like you've just thrown you've heaved up a ball and romo's. I got Jim what do you think going to be complete? We'll find out I've done this. And then you have to sit there. I would do commercial just to see how they reacted and to see if the pass was caught he's going to inspire the version. You know, how they did like QB vision or player is in Riga to be like the coach of the GM. They're going to do a visual a version of Madden where you get to do the season calling the games from the booth and you're going to be on the conference call of the production meeting in the middle of the week and deal with the coach obstinate or deal, the coach that doesn't like you. And then you get up there and you get to use the Telestrator in the booth. They're going to have to have all those come with the game system. Now, imagine how defeating it would feel the lineup. They're playing you think you've got it. And all of a sudden romo's like condescendingly letting you know. Yeah, they're gonna come in and chip here in the ballsy. They're going to go there there. And it's like, thanks for them. All I thought I was being clever. That's what he did to the chiefs yesterday. So coming up should everything be reviewable Lancer next, Dan lebatardshow on ESPN radio. And there's always the ESPN app.

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French Trump Weekly Press Conference April 3, 2020

Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone

10:46 min | 4 months ago

French Trump Weekly Press Conference April 3, 2020

"And now we take you live to French. Trump's weekly press conference trump come Tuesay conference. I am prepared to take your questions Mr Today. This young lady down front rotten rat. Mi Mislead Mr Mr Lil. Yes Dickenson county when mess here. Have we met before? Have we met? I don't think so Mr President. I don't recognize this letting I'll tell Ya Zest. Okay good good. Mr President you famously. Or infamously have picked a fight with Gretchen. Whitmer the governor of Michigan who seems to be just trying to do her job and keep her state safe. I don't think that this is a bad time for that. Kind of child is fighting. Should stop it. I can tell you that she began. That does that matter from Michigan. I have done so much for them so much for them. I give them every time she hit. Pay Dirt with me but nothing is enough. She does not need those things she's no. I think this is a perfectly appropriate time to talk about someone who is lower than dirt at women from Michigan. I have a lot of support from Michigan but I seek some kind of maybe Tang went. Earned with the governor's race there. Vice Pulse Pulse COMMU cardboard cutout. Can we put that put Mr Blues name on a list? What Mr Blue? What state are you from Iowa? Sir All right Mike Mike Parent puts Mr Blues Name. But put Rectum Iowa. Maybe they don't get as much stuff now. I think it's perfectly fine for me to talk about that. Were man next question. Mr President President Mr President President Mr President President Attorney. Tony Romo Tony Romo. I Love Your Pizza. Yes Oh thank you Mr President. This is Tony Romo reporting from ABC News. Mr President you have recommended hydro chloroquine and high end chloroquine to fight Kobe. Nineteen hydrochloride from the tool stuff. You put in the pool. Well Well hydrogen we'll just say hydrochloric queen and clerk to fight covet thirteen. Mr President want their new studies. There are no definitive studies showing that they are effective in. Your claim has created a shortage in these medicines for people who use them successfully to treat lupus and auto immune deficiencies. Where do you get the medical knowledge to make such assertions? Mr President know people ask me all the time. Why do you knew so much about medicine? I you know I see that. Was You. Pardon inches you because people ask me all the time doctors and scientists as I. Do you know we went to school. But why do you know? Moore's I'll tell you from the time I was born in fact release myself from a mother's vagina and torn little bit of it as I came out and I went right back and stitched up. It was a very unusual and it has made me a very important part of solving this problem for not just United States before the entire world and Tony. Romo say give me your question and I also would like a large wish mushrooms on it. Sorry Mr President Mr President. I have a follow up question to that argue. I wear that I have a follow up question. Are you aware that you've hurt? People with that. Uninformed SUGGESTION MR president. I know what you're talking about. I've not heard any. What what you pin pal been. You knew why no one trusts makers anymore because like you because you as questions like zapped. I've not heard anyone if someone already had. Lupus is not my thought at I. Give Out Lucas. Tony Romo Pizza make out nice quest. John's President Mr President President. I believe Joe Johnson. All right you can have in your hand waving waving wave. Yes behaved Johnson. Why yes Mr President? Beef Johnson yes with TMZ with all due respect. This was such an important news outlet a real news. Real news TMZ. Yes Johnson. Happy and proud to answer your question with all due respect Mr President. Did you have anything to do with that tip? That came up to me to combat the crab the puts. Did you have anything to do with that? No OF COURSE NOT MR president. Because I've never said that I don't know how anybody got a tape that I'm never said that I never said that. But what was it the Graham pushing when I didn't say I grabbed a pussy. Don't get me wrong. There's Pussy in front of me and they let you because you're famous but I did not say it on that bus that Bush boy. What do you think we should do with the people on the cruise ship that that one land when they have people dying on that crucial? Why would you want to land on? Cruise ships have alcohol as you say the into some of the Disney shows. They have beauty on the busiest day of kings of the itchy. Could you what would wanNA come on ship? Wouldn't you have all day long like Beavis as big as it can be a sense of beautiful? Who could you look out? It's a beautiful. We're not letting those people off that ship because you know what they're stupid if they want off that ship we don't want them. Enqueso our number of stupid and United States next question President President Mr President Mr Mistake well can. Yes Sir yes this can be from the Saint Louis Post dispatch Mr President. Why do you keep saying anyone who wants to test can get one and yet I noticed? Many of the people in your administration will repeat that and add kind of softly if they need it who decides needs it especially when it can person can have no symptoms at all and be carrying the virus. Well you can get test. Anyone can get to test you. You go to a Walmart. Parking Latin at Walmart has just. Yeah well shove a swifter up your nose that a test to see if you can handle that anyone can get detectives. They need it just as I have said before I knew who decides. They need it do do you. Mr President you you decide for the over two hundred thousand people in America that that need a test you they they should just email you or call you individually and you can this help pirates from me. They must show their support respect. I tell you what Mr can basell disease ran just rang on my finger rings yes okay. Radio Cages can get tired. Gidget gets out this. Mr President I told you about social distancing and a little uncomfortable due to kiss your hand given the distance this good solid three right there. I think that's plenty of distance between you and you know where. Where are you from? Mr Can be Dell. We'll I'm I'm from St Louis. Saint Louis Missouri. The Saint Louis Post dispatch. You know what Mike Pence come here. Mac NATS MAC pants. Come here starring at the back of my head. I can't have it. Smaller not stoops towering Beckham. I come here right down sued Lewis. They're not getting any musk's all right next west. You're on Mr President President. The President Tim do you know star May done? Yeah I do not Mr President. I do not well. She's a bitch. You should ignore all right. Mr Mr Bloom from Dickens Sean. Counting news very important outlet. Yes what can I answer? Why did you tell everyone that this was a hoax? Adna to`set Says that to compare the web. I did not say that you know which found cheap fudgy crummier. You said that you said it was a hoax. Did you not put my hand up the back of your jacket and move your fucking mouth. You said it was this. Press conference is shutdown. No Question John. Sank you for being here. You cute pads. This has been a live broadcast of French. Trump's weekly press conference a podcast network.

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Saturday Special - Colin sits down with Clay Travis

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

32:11 min | 1 year ago

Saturday Special - Colin sits down with Clay Travis

"Yeah. I'm Erin Maki most as I'm writing and producing the hit podcast lore. Now, I'm opening the doors of my own virtual room of wonder with Aaron mckie's cabinet of curiosities every Tuesday and Thursday, you'll get a guided tour through some of the most bizarre corners of history from unexplainable moments and coincidences to people and objects that come with unusual backstories listen along on apple podcasts. I heart radio or wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome to the cabinet of curiosities gamblers were wire that not agreed just areas be made in their games are not just saying that because cousin Sal night lost thirty thousand dollars on this game. Name is Travis. Welcome into our Saturday podcast. He has out kicked the coverage. He's on. Iheart radio is on lock it in Twitter and periscope. He's got a new book Republicans buy sneakers to how. The left is ruining sports with politics and his Twitter is at clay, Travis polarizing. Yes, smart. Absolutely. All right. Let's t- you up a bunch of stuff here. Number one. We can all ever theories on this. I want to hear yours NCWA tournament ratings are up massively second highest ratings in like twenty nine years. Now, we know the quality clay has been punctured by the one in done. There's fewer NBA players and the ones that are in the sport are young, and they exit them that they can what do you subscribe to on why the ratings this year have exploded three theories one the games matter a great deal if you are like me, and you sit around and you watch sports every night the NBA can make you throw your hands up in the air. And just say, why bother when you see the Golden State Warriors get run at home by the Phoenix Suns. It's hard to believe that the regular season matters NBA when people. Are taking games off for load management. I watched jazz Lakers. What bronze not playing it's on ESPN. So I think people love basketball, but they crave. Competitive. Excellent. This I think is a real theory. Now what about the Zion factor, which is not since maybe Patrick Ewing? We've had this fascinating a prospect. I think Zionist too, and I think sports gambling is three and let me go design on. I think you're right. Look, I think Zion is a transcendent almost leviathan striding across the entire sports landscape. And I think he was really smart in the way that he used social media to make himself sort of an underground star that you saw these videos from small gyms of these spectacular feats of athletic, immortality, almost from a high school level. And everybody wondered how he was going to translate at the college level. I think even something like his shoe blowing out makes him seem other worldly. Yeah. And so I think there are a lot of people who I always say like needle movers. Right. Like who will make me change my behavior? You may not think that it makes sense. But when I heard Johnny Manziel was in playing football on the af on the NFL network last weekend. I flipped it over to the NFL network right wins. I on is in a game. I think it's hard to take his out your eyes away from totally captivating is magnetic. Yep. And then the third one call, and I think this is becoming bigger and bigger, and obviously I'm kind of immersed in this world. I think sports gambling. I think the NCAA tournament was already a major event, and I think sports gambling, which what do you want? When you gamble on sports. You want to know that the guys you are gambling on and the coaches are trying their absolute hardest to win. And I think football you get that feeling right in the NFL in college football. It's hard to fake football. I think people are desperate for a sport. Where people are. Going all in. And I think the college basketball's it. Here's a fourth factor for you that I think you'll appreciate too. I think in this age where there are so many options, what becomes more valuable is the thing that you already know you'll love and I use this analogy to explain it. You have kids I've got kids when they're young. And you take them out to a restaurant every kid's menu in America. Looks the exact same right to got your grilled cheese. Your hamburger, your chicken tenders your pizza? It's always cheese pizza. That's always on the menu. When you know when I can put on Netflix. And I'm not sure if I'm gonna like it, Hulu, Amazon prime even all the networks right now, if you know that you like sports, you know, the NC double A tournament is gonna matter. And I think the biggest events matter more even in an era when there is so much taught to talk about and so much to watch because I think we still crave that communal connection with everybody else. And so I think the biggest events even in a world. There's so many options become bigger whether it's game of thrones. Whether it's the NFL whether it's the NCAA tournament. I'd synthesize though. I think the words urgency. I think the NFL in March madness give you urgency one loss, you're out. I think in a world now where there's so many options, you really only a handful of things get you in it either a transcendent star. Yep. Or this game matters a lot. I think that hurts college basketball's regular season but benefits March madness, I think it kills baseball. I think it hurts the NBA's regular season unin goalie to things only to a TV. Now, a great individual player I love or urgency, and I think March madness in the NFL and college football, although it's getting very regional over the last four or five years. I think those three sports to me move me more than any others. Let's let's go to I gambling is funny in sports because we're both very pro gambling. In fact, you'd be proud of me. I can't announce either these publicly, but I'm into projects that I finalized this week that have a sports gambling connection. Yes. Both our businesses wants more retail and one's really techie one, you know about. Yeah. I'm I believe it's a game changer. I think networks are are going to make major announcements one of 'em. I know for sure in the next year. Is there a downside to it? Is there is there any part of it? You don't like I do think I'm seeing some initial social media reactions. I think there's a degenerate quality that worries me, but I don't I don't see a negative to it. I think the only negative becomes if there is match fixing that goes on right? And if you can directly tie it to gambling now, the people who are better experts at this than me say the best way to ensure that a sport is always on the up and up is to have open and transparent and legal gambling because the sunshine will eliminate any sort of miss misbehavior in a way that if it's a shadowy back world universe. It's easier to hide. So I think that's probably the negative that is out there. And look I think maybe a negative is if people start to think, oh, I'm going to do this for a living, right? Like, there's a very tiny small percentage of people who make money. Enough to be professional gamblers. I think the way you need to think about this is the way I think about it all the time. I am a dad of three young kids. If I can gamble on a game when I'm sitting at home in my family's home and they're in bed, and I can kick back and put my feet up and care more about the game. That's on my television because I've got a little bit extra riding on it. I think that's the key. And I think the key is not betting, and this is true for no matter what whether you go to Vegas and sit down to play blackjack or the slots or whatever else knowing what you can afford to lose in staying within your limits. The older I get call and moderation is the key to life in almost all respects, right like and most in some people, I know have personalities that don't allow that to occur. But I don't know that you can protect all of society because some people have a compulsion. I think you, and I have two big similarities all all talk about the first we love business, Iran business and the sports page often business, I. I am. I am often struck by the lack of motion discipline within the media. I told a friend of mine, Tim Kyun recently. I wrote two books with him that I would have outlawed a year ago. And I told him this months ago, I would have outlawed the word bombshell with Donald Trump at the Russian port and the and the report said because if you with it will have irreparable damage to political media while this week. The report comes out mobile report comes out, and it was an absolute with by the left, and I think it's done real damage, and I feel the same way with Colin Kaepernick where he got paid about four million a year, not eighty but I find the business savvy and discipline of the sports media and political is awful the knowledge of what they do is good. But people were rooting for capital to get. Paid people were rooting for Trump to be leveled. And in both cases. I think you lose long-term big chunks of your consumer base audience who no longer trust. You. Let's start with the capture Nic report, which I trust the Wall Street Journal more than random bloggers. What did you make of that? First of all, you're right. We both love business, and I would say what connects both of these stories, and I think this is a big issue in larger media today is we have lost the ability to distinguish between opinion, est and people who are supposed to be providing nonbiased journalistic coverage. And I think that's because they've all gotten mixed together. I think you, and I would both say, hey, we're in the opinion. But yeah, I think people who listen to us don't mistake that doesn't mean we can't sometimes say things that we believe is going to be newsworthy. But if you put me in one side or the other like are, you news, or you opinion, I'm clearly opinion. And so I think both. Of these stories. What has happened is? It's become very difficult to figure out who is on the news side, and who's on the opinion side. And I think that's a big loss for overall information, in fact, banned journalists social media and Twitter the have created that people that I thought were reporters now, they're constantly showing their hand politically. Yes. And so I don't trust them. And it by the way, I'm not a Trump fan. The I voted for Obama twice. I would've voted for Bloomberg. I'm really on the fence. I probably down to a a. Biden is somebody. I would trust a little more. But I'm not a guy, but you don't have to reporter constantly tell me how much you resent and hate the person you're covering I also and this is a good lesson. Sometimes if you hate something you are in danger of becoming it. Right. And I think what has happened to a large degree is. There is a great deal of animus provoked by Donald Trump. He is the perfect social media president because there's very few people who are like I'm a like him a little bit. I don't like him very much like he's the greatest thing if you're a Trump person or the worst thing if you're an anti-trump person. And so I think what has happened is when the coverage goes out, right? I think that there's been very little bias check. And I don't mean bias in the sense of racism or sexism or anything else. I just mean, I think about this all the time from a lawyer perspective. Right. So I was trained till? Look at all the evidence all the facts, and then defend one side or the other. But as the way, you are trained, you have to constantly be thinking about what the other side is going to say, which allows you to make the most reasonable possible opinion to appeal to a jury or to appeal to a judge and in my opinions before I go public people might think I'm polarizing like you said or or sometimes my opinions are out there before I go public with an opinion in my head. And oftentimes in writing it out I will have worked through the entire argument. So people think I'm just shooting off at the mouth, you may not agree with me. But there's a logic behind all of my opinions. And I think about them almost like, I'm a judge I want there to be a coherence to my opinion. Regardless of what your politics are what my politics are give you an example Brett Cavanaugh, I said, I don't care what the guy did in high school. And I don't think based on one person's allegation. You can force him to not become a supreme court Justice that logic. Also. Oh applies for a democrat Lieutenant governor in in in in right now Virginia who's got to sexual harassment sexual assault charges against him and still to governor Virginia. But there's no other corroborating evidence of someone who knew about these these incidents. And so I'm saying we can't just allow allegations to immediately eliminate people from being able to be elected officials. Right. And I try to be consistent with that. And what I find over and over again is sports which is inherently fanatical, right? When I started off on radio. I used to talk to SEC fans every day. Right. And there's always a scandal in the SEC. Right. And what I would say on the radio all the time is before you, get your pitchforks. I want if you're an Alabama fan. I want you to pretend that that instead of what has been alleged against Auburn it was alleged against Alabama. If you're a high state fan, I want you to pretend vice versa and would your response be the exact same. And if your answer is no if you. Logically can put yourself in those shoes and pretend that it's occurring somewhere else. That's the sign of your bias one of my favorite bias stories. Calling is win remember J T Barrett. Got a DUI Columbus. Yeah. There was a letter to the editor in the Columbus. Ditch Pat dispatch saying this is evidence that we have far too many DUI stops in Columbus. From an Ohio State fan, right? Defending the quarterback. Do you think of Michigan's quarterback had gotten pulled over for a DUI that guy would have written a letter to the editor to the Ann Arbor daily news, or whatever it's called saying, you know, what there's way too many DUI traffic stops going on right now in Michigan. And in Arbor around the university of Michigan. Of course, not that's a clear sign of bias. And so I think it's a good test for fans every time you respond to a story pretend it was involving the person that you love the most. Or you hate the most your response should try and be the same more with clay Travis in a minute. But first when men and women upgrade from their tattered outdated multi pack underwear Tommy John the most comfortable on the planet. They have a lot to say about it like Scott, who's happy. His double agents are no longer going rogue or Melissa who's Tommy John's are so light and comfortable. She worries she'll forget to pull them down when she goes to the bathroom point is. 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He still playing Conor McGregor a shooting star for two and a half years and now potentially retires UFC is the whole in their business. Nobody Brock Holly home Conor McGregor. Ronda Rousey their stars. Don't last long enough. I think it's a massive hole in their business. And I think the other problem with their businesses. Unlike the WWE, and unlike boxing to a certain extent, and certainly WWE which I think FOX so smart to get into it. They can create their stars and build the story lines to ensure that those stars last forever. You didn't mention the rock. You didn't mention, you know, a triple h I mean, the WWE when they create a star will become a star forever. And I think you just hit on Conor McGregor is thirty or thirty one years old three eighty three mega fights Nate Diaz to Mayweather, and then Habib and it's over and I mean, he had other fights. But those are the three where he became an American household name. I mean, if you if Tom Brady played three big games, and it was over you'd be like, yeah, it's great. But it's for a business to me. It's a huge issue. It will UFC their stars don't last long enough. Yeah. And I think they caught him, you know, Meteo or strikes streaking across the night sky. With Rhonda Rousey, who's going to be the lead at wrestlemainia. And the problem with rows was she got beat up by Holly home. And then if this was WWE she would come back and beaten her next fight, right? Beaten, Holly home, the next time or whoever she fought. I think it will. I can't even remember who it was. Now, she lost that one and her career was over. Right. And so I think the big challenges it's hard to create stars in the UFC because they're going out and getting their brains beaten, and it's hard to stay on top for very long. And and that means that it's hard for me to care. You mentioned all those other sports superstars that lasts for a long time. I said there's two things we like in sports. We liked the new mixed with the familiar. It's the same thing in movies, right? I'm gonna take all my kids to go. See avengers, the reason all these marvel movies org is because they're providing the new mixed with the familiar. That's what works in sports all the time. It's what works in movies. You get somebody in on a story line. But we're going to give something new it's a sequel it's a new season. But you're. Millea with the people involved. That's why LeBron works in the NBA. That's why I think the NBA's in trouble after LeBron. It's why Tom Brady works. Peyton manning. Worked new plus familiar always works, and you don't get the familiar very often in the UFC. Which is why I'm not bullish on the long term future of the league. I'm surprised you like the NFL changing the pass interference rule because it feels very reactionary to me. Yeah. We now have stories where the saints would have lost the Steelers had the rule, but in place, and they would not have had a number one seed to seed playing in Los Angeles. I am not a fan. Nick, right, actually said this if you were driving on the freeway and a boulder fell over an overpass and hit your car and windshield. You would not now create as an industry boulder insurance. There are rare occurrences like a completely butchered. Call in football. I don't like overreacting. I would table it for a year watch this year pass interference. I think they're rushing it to market, but you like the PI rule being changed. Yeah. I love it. And and I think also this is a benefit I think of the growing impact of sports gambling because I think gamblers require that not agree. Gis errors be made in their games. And I'm not just saying that because cousin Sal, and I each lost thirty thousand dollars on this game. I think that anytime you can go and make change to a sport that makes its result. More reliable more predictable more efficient and better you should make that change. And I think a lot of times the NFL gets caught in old past period. Look, you could say the same thing about instant replay in general, I remember having buddies when instant replay started in college football, and suddenly a call would get turned over and it would not favor their team. And they would say see this is why we should've never gone instant replay in the first point because we would have had a touchdown on that play. Otherwise, I think it's the right call I think it's also is going to be implemented in a smart way because it's going into the existing NFL product. And as a result. I don't think you're going to get a lot. Crazy challenges like a coach needs to save its challenges. So if he thinks there's a pass interference on a five yard penalty five yard play. He's probably not going to throw his flag. They'll only area on a little bit nervous. In is the hell Mary at the end of the game. Right. When the when the booth review occurs. Everybody who has ever watched the NFL knows that they're typically as pass interference both ways. When the ball is thrown into the end zone on a hail Mary. And so I think going back and reviewing those given the Jakonen nature of the penalty. If for instance, somebody got knocked down in the end zone on a hail, Mary which is a low percentage. Play. You threw a flag you'd have a I in goal at the two. I think it is. And you gain like fifty yards and that could change the outcome in a big way. So I would almost prefer that this not apply for hail Mary type situations and those still be refereed refereed the same way. Because basically the refs swallow the flag. I don't remember the last time you may remember one when a flag was thrown on a hail Mary in the NF. It's it doesn't happen. I always argue this clay that you don't officiate the same way late in games in early. And a great example is we have rule changes for overtime that don't look like regulation. We have a two minute warning late in games in the NBA. If you call a time out they'll move the ball under two minutes. They'll move it to the other end of the floor. So officials don't officiate the same way late in games. They swallow whistles though, the times we are infuriated with officiating late and games. It's never the call. They make it's the call don't boxing referees. Don't want to end fights with forty five seconds left. They're gonna let guys blistering each other. And I and if you went back to the ram saints game. What really struck me in the second half is how aggressive the Rams corners were the entire second half. Because they the bottom line is the bigger the game to human quality officials don't want to be in the newspaper the next day. Yeah. I think you're right. And also the thing I would hit there is. I'm still furious at Sean Payton. For throwing the ball on first. After that, big completion. He's. Nobody talked about that. It was an agreed just coaching move. Yes. It was stupid. And there was no benefit to it. And that was infuriating to me in real time. This is not Monday morning quarterbacking. But I think you know, we tend to look at whatever the most glittery object is an end of game scenario. And and but that one was just so egregious. I think it's I do think it will improve the game to have the adjustment. Finally, Tony Romo word out wants ten million dollars. I've never felt an NFL analyst as good as Collins worth is or Troy Aikman. Or Tony Romo? I'm gonna watch football, regardless. Now, you don't wanna disaster. Monday night. Football's booth was disaster. I don't think I don't think any TV analyst has the leverage of say, Rachel, Maddow, Sean, Hannity. Rush Limbaugh on opinion. Est. Like, I watch an opinion show, if the opinion est takes the day off, I think Troy Aikman's great. But if the eagles are. Playing the Cowboys. I'm watching it regardless. Although I do think they can add a veneer of excellence, I don't know to do I like Romo, but the idea that he's going to come in in a year later be the highest paid guy by a mile. I don't know if I was CBS if I'd make that move you. It's an it's an interesting question. I'd make it. Let me tell you. Why first of all John Madden? Got eight million dollars in nineteen ninety three win. He went to FOX, right? When FOX added the NFC eight million in nineteen Ninety-three is around thirteen or fourteen million dollars in today's day. So that kind of puts into perspective how much more Madden was making that even the best in current environment. And what did mad and immediately give FOX the impromptu or of legitimacy for a brand new league. I think desperately ESPN needs to make up for what happened in their Monday night football booth, ever since Jon Gruden left. And so it's not just that CBS would would not have Romo it's that one of their competitors would have. Romo and you know, as well as I do that in this business world oftentimes, you get paid not only for the value that you bring to the place that you are. But to the value you keep someone else from being able to unlock from having you. So that's why I think CBS has to pay Romo ten million dollars. The other thing is robo is in a great spot. You know, he's he's a lot like us. I think in that he loves business. He loves being involved in the larger universe. And I don't think he needs the money. I think he just thinks that's where the market is. So he should be paid what the market is. But I think Roe at thirty eight years old could walk away and never call another NFL game and still be worth several hundred million dollars. It's a pretty good place to be in. So I think CBS has to pay him more. With clay Travis after this alarm, though elis he panic there. 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And it was remarkable to me the TV critics never got him. It is. So remarkable to me that you could be a critic of something food critic theater critic and not get great gruden's. I mean, it it's amazing. Like, if you're a food critic everybody knows Gordon. Ramsey's good or the late. Anthony bourdain, if you're a Feodor critic everybody knows, you know, Hamilton is great. Yes. Tv critics can't figure out basic obvious stuff that Barclays great on TV. Gruden was great TV. And if you don't think so look at the Grand Canyon whole he left. I mean, they had to hire. They had a crane. They had a guy in the booth out of how hard you are to replace is how great you are not just your talent. But will you be hard to replace Gruden? They're still a hole on their raft. There's they don't have the quarterback Cam Monday night football, Gruden for all you want to say is he was the highest paid ESPN employees. And there was a little pushback when I was there, and I was always like everything he's on his great draft games quarterback camp. He's a tremendous. I don't know if he's a great coach any. More. I thought it was great TV yet a good point on Roma would be that they're gonna he's gonna do around nineteen games for them. CBS gonna pay a billion dollars for the NFL. What is it worth five hundred thousand dollars per game to increase the overall quality of your game? If you think romo's that good. I think the answer's yes response would be Gottlieb would say, well, I don't think he increases the overall number of people who watch a game. I'm not sure I know I know about you. But like tonight there's a good chance when when when and throughout the NC double A tournament we talked about the ratings when I'm watching a game. If there is a game that I don't that. The announcers annoy me on I put it on mute, and I'll watch it in silence. I never do that with the Tony Romo game. I never did it with Gruden game. I never did it with Kirk herbstreit game. There are a lot of guys out there that I think are really good. There's also a lot of people in our business who are really bad. And so sometimes I'd rather just watch the still images on the images moving on my screen because I know what's going on. Have watched enough games to me Romo makes me enjoy the game more, and that's rare. I'd pay him. If you're going to build something from nothing, you've got to know what really works. I took a thousand dollars on built a five billion dollar business. And now, I make smart investments new businesses on shark tank. I'm Barbara Corcoran. Now. I'm sharing my secrets on my podcast called business unusual. You might think that looking at someone's resume and asking them a lot of questions are the key to finding the right person for a position your dead wrong. Follow business unusual on iheartradio. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Well, there's also I if in again is I say is a is an NFL analyst worth ten million because they don't drive into games your points. Good one. Which is if you go, and you and your wife or getting married, right? You'll pay a little more for the venue. It won't make your marriage better it won't necessarily make your sex better that night or the pictures better. Trite or even the number of people who come to your wedding it right change. It probably will increase the quality of the night, if the venues nicer, it's got a better view. Overlooking water. It's cleaner. It won't mean. You you guys are your night will be hotter. But it will. So Troy Aikman insures that are broadcast is just excellent with buck. It also limits disaster. Yes. Yes. Zastava? So if you're an executive and you're like, hey, I got Jim Nansen Tony Romo. That's something. You can take off your table and never have to worry about for five to ten years, depending on how long you sign those guys to work together. Right. I think in this day and age when you have so many things on your plate. And I'm sure I know this apple when when FOX came and got you and skip they're like, okay. We're gonna get calling cowherd, and we're going to get skip Bayless. We think they're the two best at what they do. And our concern about those six hours of programming. We can take off the table like we are going to maximize through those two guys. What is possible for the six hours that they're on television on f s one doesn't mean that it's going to be immediately like a billion people are gonna watch, but the largest possible audience is, and then I can go focus on these other things where I feel like my talents can be better. Utilized if I'm CBS the last thing I wanna do is lose Romo, and then I gotta find a new guy to put in there with gymnast. And then I got a walked everybody gloating at ESPN or FOX whoever hires them away about how much better the new broadcast is with Romo in the other guy. Then whoever you put him in there with Jim Nance? So I think romo's in an incredible negotiating position here. He doesn't need the money CBS has to pay to him. I think he's no-brainer clay Travis could talk to you, bud. Always enjoy. Appreciate the time. A man. Hey, everyone. I'm doctor ause. I love getting the talk with you on my show every single day when the cameras stopped rolling the conversation isn't over decided to start a podcast in order to dive deeper into the issues, and ideas that I love sharing with you. It's health, unfiltered, my wife, Lisa will be joining me together. We're taking wellness to the next level and having a little fun along the way. Listen subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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"Commute. So, what's going on? You guys got Michetti Michetti Bracy F. and we are live at club real. We got my boy right here for makes allergist from eighty eight point five FM saying we're going to bring a little mix to you. Don't talk some sports I mean your girl was was hanging. What Tim Brando and was like West good brings so. I had to get one another mixologist saying mix it up, so don't talk a little sports right now. Say to like loading so that you got from talking about the balanced cowboys my hometown I hate. Dan At all right, so I'm a big cowboy thing and I'm just saying the whole, Dez the Lasko that went down with owner Jerry Jones with his stuck up tight wad, but you're. Talking about the home of the Presidential Marketing Dude. He got three titles. You got three titles, but he didn't get. It was the team in the coaches that got it. Yeah, his money help contribute, but at the end of a date it's not about to about your players on your team and you'll coaches. You can't have a yes man that you have you know as a coach bottom line. Let's get to the heart of the mouth. Dak Prescott. Talk we go. What are you talking about? I want to be on day I mean. that. All right, take it up that. Prescott is a great individual community leader. All of those things he had. His squad. I'm a long time. Cowboy Fan that Prescott leaves a lot on the table. For every play. He's a check down quarterback from what I've seen. Maybe this year we'll see a different Dak. Prescott Take Chances Him and dad's was never owned the same page we both agree on. Agree with you on that. You know what I'm saying. Two different you talking about. East Texas and Louisiana. So, there's always going to be a great Nevada in between that you know what? They had to. To season. The what happened. Nothing happened. That isn't the most accurate quarterback. All I'm saying is. When when when Tony Romo's there. Bryan was setting records when Tony Romo Guy hurt. There's went down. because. In to be the to matter. Where Tony were place the ball in debt and our new weather ball was going to be. That hasn't shown that he can do that yet I mean. Let's forecasts two thousand eighteen for the season. You know what I'm saying. Pass all day, okay? I, don't we have a six and eight? Maybe. Wins. Feeling. I I'm looking at five to five. billion. Eight win. You know what I'm saying. But we don't need that. What we need is we needed to get us a a legitimate. Why receiver, that's not just a deep threat, but somebody that really WANNA go ball. We don't have it so this Michetti Breezy whip mix allergist right here in less. Than a loved until you know what I'm saying I'm always as. Work whereas you can be hate. Is there where. Alabama. From. Vegetables. Know. Me Yeah, so you gotta say. The cowboys season is gonNA. Be Fooling. Affect you feel me. You know I'm always reading my hometown, but diehards sakes baby. They had. I. Let Cha once again. You listen to miss shotty, Breezy F. Say to unload Lodi. We got more for you hits n wonders.

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Best Of: Romo Gets His

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1:07:48 hr | 5 months ago

Best Of: Romo Gets His

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And he didn't deserve to have that job. And how did he retire and get the number one broadcast team and here? We are a few years later as broadcaster. Incredible I mean Jon. Gruden was paid six and a half million dollars a year like this. This is a bidding. War must have broken out because we it leaps somewhere that ESPN was offering fourteen million and those strategic leaks are always interesting. Because it's certainly not coming from the people who are giving the money. That's not where those leaks come from Smith negotiating against an entity that has right of first refusal. That's right Tony. Romo is GONNA make more J. J. Watt Odell Beckham Junior Aaron Rodgers. Patrick Mahomes this season. It's a crazy number and the reason that I find it interesting right beyond marveling at the point that Michael Thomas is making what I want you to understand about all of this when it trickles down into college football and you know that there is so much money around these things that the players aren't getting. Do you understand how much money everyone has to be making off of footfall for Tony? Romo to make more than all the bodies that are colliding in that sport. It's not even hard for CBS to do that hard for ESPN to do that. And this is about someone. Stugotz that I'm telling you as great as I think he is. I don't think he moves the needle. I don't think the people would go from CBS TO ESPN to watch a game. Just because of Tony Romo like. I don't think there would be you know what would improve Monday night. Football's ratings is. We had a flex package that allowed us to put the best football games on there and it wouldn't matter if you had to camel sitting in the boot what. Tony Romo does is enhance a product. That is early great. I agree with you that I'm not going to rush to a game just because Tony. Romo is calling that game but he does enhance a product that you don't have to pay him like that. It's a prestigious layer. You do have to pay him like that if someone else is willing to pay him like. I know what I'm saying is no one has to pay him like that. Espn wanted to make a prestige higher. They because tested torn booker. Whatever it is that you think of them. That doesn't make the splash. Tony Romo makes by ending up as part of your broadcast team. You you immediately bolster your broadcast team by having Tony. Romo be a part of it but not in a way that's going to increase the number. Cbs's that CBS says we can't lose him to ESPN and CBS ends up offering three million dollars more per year than the initial offer motion to have two camels in the booth. Seriously the the ratings are going to sort of bear route that you're going to save a lot of money Tony Romo probably gets you more viewers than to Campbell's but how many more viewers if you put it on the Pole Guillermo at Lebatardshow. Does Tony Romo gets you more viewers on an NFL football game that you want to watch then two camels. Put them near the sideline. They're both wearing cute at you. Hear their noises. Whatever THEY MAY BE? I think that would get old after a couple of games. I think it would be now. You're GONNA switch animals. You can't just do camels every week. Good the camels interrupt gymnasts because that's one of the great qualities of Tony Romo. Oh you know Nancy's looking at this contract like wait a minute wait a minute. How much dance making Nance makes plenty? Lance has a recreation of Pebble Beach in his backyard clothing line. Nancy Nancy Nancy Carlin for you have a clothing line. Yeah yeah big with now. I think its vineyard vines. Oh Yeah owns vineyard now. No he has a clothing line with vineyard vines. Is that on the company? Although I wouldn't surprise me if he has a small percentage binds presents the Jim nance collection. And we're getting an answer season. I mean this is it. This is where is it? Wow on the heels of this contract Nancy's going to show you okay. All Right Tradition. Unlike any other okay. I'M GONNA give my necktie to some nineteen year old. Kid You gotTa Love Me. Hold on put it on the poll. Guillermo is Jim Nance beside himself with rage right now because Nancy saying to himself. Wait a minute. Romo doesn't have to March madness. Romo doesn't have to give anybody tied at the master's Romo just doing football. Basically it's not. I want you to keep in mind. They just gave Romo seventeen million dollars a year in a season. That doesn't have sixteen weeks or that has only sixteen weeks and then the playoffs like he doesn't. He's got half the year off. I am reading here that Jim has is making five million a year. How I am head outside of. Cbs and he is a flame thrower. And it's burning all the plastic. They keep on the furniture. They're like he's just throwing flames there at Les Moonves. I'm sure there's some sort of center. Oh that's right. He got me to paper and my bad. I forgot I just always associated old. Cbs With less mood. I can't say read a paper anymore. Your kids out there. Why would I read of what paper? What's Paper Moon? Says No longer there. The plastic on the furniture still. That's correct yes that is correct. My bad forgetting that he was one of those who got Me Too and scurrying scrambled out the door. What's the Modern Day Quinlan of read the paper? I check twitter checking Internet check. You don't refer to as the Internet that yeah. Dan doesn't know who is he doesn't know who. Ceo and I sent him like photos of Co. who's got a look that sort of iconic because she shields her face she's had all these huge music videos because they're super creative Sheila buff was in one great choreography. And you don't know who. Well he's making good movie he's back. Nobody was hitchhiking. The last we heard of him making anyone's car isn't quite. The roller coaster was shot. But he's back now. He is making artful good well reviewed movies. He was for a while. They're going a bit crazy where he had descended into the the Wall Street World While trying to character act on something and you know whatever the vice has got a hold of him for a while but he He's actually making creative artistic choices that stretch his range Acting and the only reason that I'm saying all this to camouflage the fact that I don't know who she's maybe like one of her last album cycle one of the biggest pop acts in the world is pop music. I'm very surprised but you think I'm listening to a lot of pop music. You think I'd be listening unavoidable. You didn't hear Chandelier Aliens Avoidable. I mean what do you listen to a lot of old blues? My Guy is thank you Roy. I'm glad I have an an ally you heard the same coke at my wedding Yeah Yeah Yeah Definitely I. Didn't you saw the band at my wedding? I'd miss that you didn't either. Laseyette is guessing. If you come up on his computer he tells me wrong look. I'm having password issues this morning so I can't get lost and say yes I can't even get in. I saw him. I saw sausage fingers frantically making their way along the but then every minute is all. This me doesn't know his Password. Any he's he's got. He got trapped there. I know the old password reset it to a new password because the password is expired. Michael Need you during the break. A Band I've lived with him so long in our marriage that I can sort of feel when he's cheating on stuff like I just. I felt he was doing something over there that he shouldn't have been and I didn't do the math immediately on what it was and then of course. It's it's to mass that he didn't want all of your eyes of judgement. Were raining down on me to end up on him. What was going to happen was he would google it if he'd Neil the spelling on the other three letters but it's always an adventure him the CIA keeps going. Donlevatar wasting away you Rita Ville searching for my law. Shaker of sand stugatz. Some people claim that there's a green person belay but I I'm not DCC's Libertas show with this two guys on ESPN radio. Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance. All guests on the Dan lebatardshow appear via the shell pennzoil performance line pennzoil synthetic motor oils are made from natural gas. It gives you unbeatable engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil based on sequence foray wear tests using S. A. E. Five W. Dash thirty. Here's your sportscenter. Update the Lakers defeated the pelicans. One twenty two to one fourteen fun game. They swept the season series. Lebron James Thirty. Four points twelve rebounds. Thirteen says Zaim Williamson Thirty Five Point Seven Rebounds. Pretty deontay wilder has exercises rematch clause to fight. Tyson theory. July eighteenth in Las Vegas at finally judge. Judy is set to end after. The show's twenty fifth season. But that doesn't mean judge. Judy is going away. The Mega Millionaires Syndication Queen will begin production and not a new show called Judy Justice. She makes more money than Romo right. Oh Yeah and she's still rates. This is a curious decision. Oh you know who made the Decision Viacom? They're clearing her off the books and make room for Romo. That's what happened. It's a good best aspect I guess. How much but judge Judy makes a one hundred million a year doesn't she? Forty seven million per year twentieth anniversary. We have all these reruns which is gonNa put you in syndication but old episodes and Judy justice is like I gotta reinvent. I got A. I got an evolution me yet. I can't have Romo coming from my throne. Who Do you think judge? Judy can be in the Monday night football boot. There's something for you lose. If you're game viewers. I mean I think that's a good idea. Should have a replace plan. Dino yes someone who's a judge put it on the go over notice. I'd even better known judge Judy. Judy Justice Great Dave Sports Center brought to you by advance auto parts big ahead and anytime one. Four batteries is about to fail. Get a free battery tested free installation with any automotive battery. Purchase only at advance auto parts for all the latest headlines and information tune the sportscenter on ESPN radio all throughout the day. By the way the joke that was made inside of that Judge Judy Conversation. Where you just heard someone. Shout salary CAP. I want you to think about how stupid the salary caps are in sports because what just happened with. Romo is what happens when there are no salary caps. I that's how it happens that you get a free market. That's exactly right. Michael dominance if you don't want Promo making more than you you need to collectively bargain. The salary cap the hell out of there. Because those owners don't need a fixed costs they allow their businesses to never depreciate because they have fixed cost the bodies are fixed on what it is that they can cost. And it's why Garrett Cole Garrett Cole is out here making three hundred twenty four million dollars because baseball union simply wouldn't go for a salary cap in any way but I'm boring you with things you don't WanNa hear about the entire shipping containers descended into the Internet rabbit hole of Jim nance items. So what have you found Billy has been researching furiously all Nancy and things. Why don't apologize? Because I was distracted by the texture and the pattern of the piscopo hounds tooth performance half zip and realize at the time. Then if you were to go onto the vineyard vines website and have a promo code or you know whatever discount something right to get these at a discount rate. No no no no every single. Nance ITEM has little asterisk next to it. That says not eligible for discount. All of them maybe single one same goes for Viacom. When this contract's up who did you did you. Just say best guy that. Oh is that a Fisher bits. Jim nance fisherman's gear. No FISHERMAN'S HOUNDS. Tooth dance for a little colder weather up in Pebble Beach. You know when you go out on your boat you're trying to catch a little bit here and there fishing during your mom does and speaking up Pebble Beach. It's call the seventy mile collection named after the seventeen mile drive at pebble beach. Where gymnasts lips we also got to thinking because when you wear your peschiera hounds tooth. Obviously it's probably going to a boat day right. So what kind of boat do you think he has? And the only way can describe. It is how I googled it. And it's just expensive wooden boat. I don't know the name of the actual boat. But if you google expensive wooden boat you'll see the exact boat that Jim Nance has how is it? Well it's like a pirate ship. No no going to war across his good Gulflink with his neighbors votes definitely called hello friends with a dollar sign and dollars anymore because Romo what are you. What are you have their own information on the wooden boat? What do you tell me more about this? Tell me as much as you can about the wooden boat. Yeah if you Google expensive wooden boat you'll see what I'm talking about and you immediately realize. Yeah this is probably the type of both that he has. It's something for like a calmer. Water MAY BE A LAKE. Or maybe if he's going through the channels in Venice. Yeah it's not something that you got into the open ocean this is for like a leisurely you know boat ride day something Something that Allows you to drink your Palmer's as you drive as you well know. He has a driver. Obviously Dan you know what it is. It's like the boat from caddyshack that they christen and the bottle of champagne doesn't break a part of the boat breaks. I telling you'd never young kids in the studio. Have no idea what I'm talking about. But you Dan you know what? There is a famous singer and I do think by the way I saw you. Mike Make a face. I do believe we've talked about this before. The verb on a boat is also drive. I know that some people go captain but it is driving a boat. I think that driver though. I think the the verb is too dry any commodore he. He probably doesn't have a common then. Remember an Indiana Jones where he's running away from the people with the Fez hats and jumps into that boat and they're going into the propeller of the cruise ship. That's what we're talking about. Nice Italian leather. Some teak wood. Maybe Mahogany what stews talking about with the with the Christie of the ship and caddyshack. That's sailboats not waiting it. I honestly pictured one of the boats and Gema thrown. I was picturing something with a cannon. Can you tell me billie because I am super curious about all of this? Can you find out what that boat costs? And furthermore as it relates to the Jim Nance Collection. Because there's so much stuff there that we are enjoying How much did you say the best guy they had was because I feel like we should buy some of those? Wear them around their borders. If Dan whereas the more expensive to wait a minute. Wait a minute I thought did you say how do I thought you said? I assume houndstooth hat. You enjoy air out too bright Dan. This guy's really rain down on me. Made me feel very vulnerable. They're thinking that the word goes that. Wow guys I just found a nice nineteen sixty one grenfell. Twenty one footer. Just forty grand. Oh look in protest catch. I am not stuck with this visual nance wearing a bear. Bryant's hat that's what I thought they were describing. I missed it. That was just a pullover that that was a quarter ZIP. We can't afford it. We can't afford their no hats in the Jim Nance collection none zero zero Dan. We're onto the boats. Shorts zips are two forty eight or pop. And there's only six remain. How about how about boat shoes index shoes now? This is a status symbol. I had no idea. Well I just found in nineteen fifty nine one thousand nine hundred. Super Florida whole four hundred ninety five grand houses extensive vote. We can get to work on it. I'm thinking that's trip in would be faster if he chose a boat. I'm not getting because he'd avoid thought about thought about this all the void all the rush hour traffic. I've I've often dreamed about getting like a jet Ski. That's like the Coconut Grove Marina. And just jet skiing over here. Would you believe honest to God? I'm not making this up because I'm looking for a home. I have actually considered the. I'd say the very same idea avoiding traffic from key. Biscayne Bay just taking a jet ski over. I'm just afraid of what happens when I'm fifteen minutes into the ride and I come out in the middle of Mike. I'm from our dad. The ten bedroom apartment on the beach get cramps. I mean that's got to. Did I tell you about the apocalypse zombies around and now another edition of obvious news from GEICO experts? Now say that wearing more clothes in the winter will in fact help you be warmer. We asked cold victim. Trent Patterson about this. And here's what he said. I was the weirdest thing I was a little cold put on a sweater then wasn't cold was also an obvious news. Gyco makes it easy to save money and easy to reach them with licensed agents available around the clock so switching is a really smart decision. 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Lebron will have to remind some people that he's still the best player in the game and these people are peers or the young up and comers. He's averaging thirty ten and ten against Luca trae Young and Zion Williamson and seven one in those games and so he. It seems clear. In retrospect it seems clear that he was just injured last year. And that what happened. Was Those Sixteen Games. They were fine. They were three seat or four seat and then he missed sixteen games and then when he came back there were a number of times you saw him and he didn't look like himself. There have been a couple of times this season. Where he's going up for a dunk and he gets you know he hits the Rim and he's not like he doesn't look the same way that you're used to seeing him look when he's jumper jumping over. You know John Lucas Junior to dunk the ball. He's got better teammates. And I think it was John Lucas third. So is that that that is a fine yet. I mean Lebron used to be the guy to take Matthew Della Vedova to the NBA finals. Or Larry Hughes to the finals and last year. He showed that he's no longer the guy that could lift a bad team to not just the championship. Not even the playoffs. I understand. He was hurt and allegedly battling through that when he came back he didn't play zero dark thirty mode remember and they lost like all the games because he knew them around him because he tried to trade them all publicly so he's not the same kind of player but if you surrounded by the right pieces he's an MVP candidate that's what's happened. He's right back to the top of the sport where it is odd to say because of his age like that's not supposed to happen and I do believe because I've told you a number of times to God's I am old enough to remember how cruel and mean you guys were to Michael Jordan before he won the titles like I'm I remember how much you question him as a ball hog and guy who couldn't win because he was putting up a sixty against Larry Bird in the playoffs and his team was lose it. You didn't even know me then but you knew is doing it. There were so many people doing it and I think we've done it to Lebron like it's actually a very poor reflection on the intellect of the sports fan in terms of being able to appreciate appreciate what feels like unprecedented greatness as it's happening because we bring such judgment to it. I mean we were comparing Michael Jordan. I remember it to Dominique Wilkins. We were saying like you can't win like that right that. He's the reason that he loses in the playoffs isn't because he's got to get tougher anything else now. Think about what he was playing against right. He was playing against total thug ball. The rules were different and so he was just getting He was getting dismantled by the Detroit's of the world. You know how Lebron sort of change the math in winning titles when it came to the Jordan comparisons while one in Cleveland and ending that cities curse means like I don't know like to Jordan rings. Has there ever been a star? That's one at three different places. If he does this Mike if he does this I understand that some people will still do six and four on him but if this year if he can knock out Greek freak and win. Three idols are four titles in three different places. What does it though? I mean I forgot about that because I thought the com- was shack checking pretty close because he got to an NBA finals with Orlando. But that's how you changed Hawaii. All over the map in someone has a fond memory of you. I don't feel like why is ever going to be able to be Lebron. Because he wasn't covered for as weird as it is to say because he was in the finals winning a championship when he was in his early twenties. Ah Koy has done it so quietly that he hasn't gotten the decade long infomercial of here at all times is Lebron James talking about a Taco like every bit of thing that comes out of Lebron James. His mouth becomes a content item in a way. That just doesn't have that kind of thing I think. We'll build the narrative around him if he eliminates Lebron this year especially with that team. 'cause we already started doing it with him as a dozen. Lebron and John and Janas yes. Yes what what if Lebron does it to Hawaii and then Lebron's back Lebron's all the way back and it's his league at thirty five years old. That's the crazy part. That's not just thirty. Five years old thirty five years old with more mileage on the odometer than any thirty five year old has ever had in that sport ever had because of the minute he has played so many postseason minutes that he's basically played an extra season in the postseason international ball to Kobe. Had a lotta miles because when you start getting into the guys that were stars right away from out of high school I mean Kawhi did do it last year to Jaanus and then did it to the warriors it did it. Basically by himself into like the really. You'RE GONNA have to stop doing by Mike by himself like given the raptors warning against GonNa Win Sixty Games this year without him and they were doing that before. I got there and they would always joke in the playoffs. Still it's a different team it. You're saying Bhai himself but they had to all-stars this year they have two people in the All star. I understand but I have my winning one by himself and I have Lebron winning one by himself there. Even I'm not doing anything for Kawai that I wouldn't do for Lebron James Okay but when you look at the second best player that Lebron James had is he going to have had the career that Pascal Siachen is GonNa have Kyrie Irving Kyri. Yeah you better career than Pascal. I think you know that he's going to have that. He probably knew problem. I mean Kyrie's probably GonNa win another title right if you think durant and Kyrie you're GonNa win a title. I don't think well regardless it doesn't matter whether I think they're going to win a title or not you guys think that by the by the time it's done Khyber Kyrie Irving is going to have had a better career. I'm no Kyrie Fan and this year has kind of been a disaster sort of skip a year for for Brooklyn and he's coming off of that Boston mess but let's let's pump the brakes on Siachen. Well how old is he I know. Crm shown like incredible growth by like. I'm not putting him in the Kyri class. And I don't like Harry as a player but come on hold on a second here. Let the outcomes twenty-five years let's talk about this for a second Kyrie's only like twenty six or twenty seven right? Yeah but at twenty five. You're Kinda Kinda who you are even if you're Siaka who was like incredibly wrong when he came into the league I I don't think is going to get that much better. Gary is twenty-seven can you look at the numbers first? Crm This year is the first year where he's allowed to be the center. Piece of a team and the efficiencies of Siaka I understand I. I wonder what you're doing doing a respect for the game like Siaka. This is his first year as an ulcer and he was he was good certainly in stretches down the postseason and his growth has been amazing and Kyrie's on sort of like a downward trajectory but come on cary was I mean second biggest shot in NBA history. Let's Relax. He's twenty three and a half points per game Siaka. Em seven point five rebounds field goal percentage is forty five percent which is actually down from last year. When I was there making the game easier for him so I mean he's out in in terms of numbers but he should be but that's what always happens right. What always happens is when you're star leaves guy who comes in next ends up averaging the twenty-three because someone has to average the twenty three and is efficiency percentages go down because it's easier to stop him when you make the usage rate so high that You wear them out. And he's not getting your primary defender but still it can't be disputed that That the Toronto Raptors are going to win more games this year without Kawhi Leonard Than Kawhi. Leonard is going to win with the clippers. That's that's not. That's not a small thing when you when you're confused by the Toronto a success and you keep going to. Nick nurse can coach and their central player on a on a team. That will probably not make it very deep in the playoffs this year. Either because Boston Milwaukee will probably end up knocking them out but he proved it to his last year. He builds those teams for the postseason. I mean they. They do the maintenance plans over there with the clippers hidden. Paul George haven't really played together all that much considering Georgia's injuries and their nights off. They had the playoffs in mind. They really don't care about the regular season they've won four straight raptors of lost three straight and quite honestly that team out. Paul George and just co why. I not much better than what he had in Toronto last year. Probably even worse and you guys help me with something though because I don't know what it is that you want Toronto to do and I understand that. A BOOT and holzer team One SIXTY PLUS GAMES IN ATLANTA. You didn't trust them. And you shouldn't have because Lebron ends up knocking them out of the playoffs. But can you explain to me what it is that you need to see from Toronto for a t to buy in? If I can't impress you with Toronto winning more Games then coli out. Kawai the season after losing Hawaii. If I can't impress you with that what the hell can impress you with Nothing I seriously I the raptors have to win a title without Kawhi. That'll be impressed. Okay but then but also the warriors have to all get hurt at the same time to make that possible because it's the only reason the raptors one like everything fell apart in golden state in a physical obvious way. It's a shame though it's a shame. They had all those injuries. Because it was headed towards the end of the dynasty all those dynasties and ugly and durant already gave voice saying that he made his decision before the NBA Finals Fair enough. But I mean when you lose clay and you lose Kevin Durant and then you know the next season Steph. Curry is broken. And the Golden State Warriors are among the worst teams in the League. This year draymond green looks useless without the other. Three guys covering goal. I wish I had the ending to like the heat. Run that the warriors had because all their fans can just say We got hurt. And that's what sort of nuked everything when it was probably at its logical end. It seems like in your personal record. Book Dan Kawai did not want to title last year. Let's go my private jet thing going to fuel. I'm just saying you're giving an awful lot of credit and I was amazed his go by his mercenary nature. I was amazed by two but a lot of things had to happen to make that possible and Toronto. I'm just trying to get you to stop saying that. He didn't have any help right but what had to happen was quiet. Sit Out and all that stuff but also what had to happen. Was Larry Rosen continuing to go to the postseason every year and losing it. But this is the thing though I think the stink of Derosa is so lingering that you're still blaming the raptors and still not trusting the raptors because of derosa neighboring derozen. Back and what a tidal within then no one press. That's okay. That's what they have to do because I do believe put it on. The poll. Guillermo is Toronto. Handicapped by the stink of durose. It is your belief in Toronto handicapped by the lingering stink of derozen Don Liberty hard by the way it sounds like a dumb one box plus mine YEP ABOUT RINGS PLUS MINUS. I mean okay. Six M J three for Lebron to God's Lebron's rings in a box and then put. Mj's rings in a box and tell me who has more plus three. This is Liberta show with stugotz on. Espn RADIO ESPN. Radio is presented by Progressive Insurance. All guests on the Dan lebatardshow appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance. Line here's your sportscenter. Update CLIPPERS owner. 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Information tune the sportscenter on ESPN radio all throughout the day Stugatz The Houston Rockets. Have to be the most inventive team in the league. They have to be because they saw wasn't good enough and in the middle of the season they just said I Russell Beer Center and he's been super efficient and they've been good as well. Yep Thirty nine hundred twenty one six straight. They invented a way for them to win themselves title. Though there it is okay so getting back to what you were doing in the last segment where you were making Theocracy wintertime novitiate to prove himself to. You GotTa Win One as one. Okay I understand. This is what just happened. Okay want you to understand that you who doesn't care about being consistent all and I understand that you want to do this with just titles but if winning is indeed the measurement that your going to use to measure these people Siaka is presently having a season that Kyrie Irving has never had as a number one like he is the we have only seen kyrie irving do nothing but lose and foul up the Celtics as a number one so using your measurement of winning is the only thing matters. Yokum is presently having a season. Kyrie Irving has never had kyrie irving career loser. When he's a number one right well he was a number of water on some really bad cavalier team. He was Oh talent around. Was the number one on a good Boston team. It's a good point any nuked and they went to the Eastern conference files without Kyrie Irving Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. And those guys with guys that took them to the Eastern conference a lot. It's a fair point. This is totally fair. Windhorst says okay. Windhorst is answering the question. I'm asking him how much better is Kyrie? Irving is a player then Siaka and his response is that it is a simple question with a complicated answer. Siachen plays a both ends and can defend multiple positions. He's much more valuable than Kyrie in that way. He's also low maintenance and locker room not an offensive superstar Kyri as a spectacular offensive talent. Who can win you games? But his fragile and emotional also poor on defense. Neither one is the number one. Most teams would love to have either so. It's not as much of a difference as it would appear to not be much of a difference as you think it's reputation it's winning a championship if you as Lebron Right now. It's just a purely hypothetical world. Just hey you can have. Crm OR KYRI. Irving one hundred percent healthy for the playoff run. Who Do you think he'd choose? Probably Kyri right. We're also looking at it right now or Kyri stock on the heels of the boss and stuff and him being hurt yet again and no one. Generally liking his attitude is stock is pretty much kinda like at an all time. Whoa whereas you look back. When he was the number two winning a championship. Siachen for as good as he was. I'd say lowery was probably the number two in that. Nba Finals series despite not really ever being a good playoff player before that. So who's a better number two on the championship team easily? Kyrie Irving because he was the number two and he made the biggest shot Or one of the biggest shots in NBA history. Put This on the poll. More annoying phrase having said that or I will say this because Jeff Van Gundy loves I will say this instead of just saying it and we just heard you said that so. I don't need you to tell me that You you said it. I think it's listen. Thank God his biggest verbal Crotch is listen. I think it's I will say this because I don't want to hear you say that basically I want to say I don't care okay very good so you don't WanNa talk to anybody is you're you don't want anyone to say anything. The hour by talking came very very good weird industry. Joe's and you're actually a very active listener as someone who doesn't want anyone talking to you. There's no one who's listening more to the things happening on this show than you want. I wanted to ask you guys this question because I don't know whether I know what I'm married to okay. I'm aware I stopped getting disappointed by students. I've lowered my expectations to a place where I just don't expect much from him. I've noticed that I mean okay and so fresh so there are opportunities that Stu gods has in his life as their every eighteen months. There are opportunities. That's authorize has in his life and STU gods usually requires an investment. God's wanted to talk about this on Friday. We had we went to the heat. Game had a great time with the Jimmy V. Winners who paid way too much money to hang out with us. But STU gods nuked my ability before the game to take these people to meet Pat Riley and Micky Arison because of what I'm about to tell you and it's okay. We did it at halftime but STUGATZ nuked it. I tried to make plans. To God's I'm like happy hour five o'clock on Friday and then we'll go to the heat gain so I'm happy hour. Five o'clock Friday. Six o'clock comes around and like him on the golf course. Be there shortly. You did say closer to five thirty at one point. I did but you came closer to seven thirty. You arrive arrived in the area now. One of the things do God's his lived here so long that he doesn't know he's still doesn't know the difference between Miami Beach and downtown like he lost. He thought I thought he was. He thought he was staying near well. This is what he said and bill. Espn was nice enough to put me up in a hotel because we were doing the Jimmy V. Night. Okay and I'm telling you I had no idea until I actually started driving to the hotel that the hotel was a downtown brickell right near the arena. And no I couldn't get there from from the links to that hotel and then back to Dan for a nice little dinner before the heat game. I couldn't get there and back in time to time out correctly because I have no idea how to navigate around the city. I don't okay. You've lived around here a long time. But how what level of Matt am I allowed to be that a meeting that students requested to discuss his life? He stood me up for two and a half hours and nuked our ability before the game to introduce the winters to these to these important people should be nine on a ten scale considering. Gps on his phone. Were you waiting at the place for him? I mean I was there with my wife so it was fine but yes. The only reason we were there was to to have this conversation with the guy I would say ted of ten but I mean this is amazing. What's happened with Dan? Seventeen years in Shrug Valerie asked me. She's like aren't you mad? I'm like its cons like it's the reason I chose not choosing Tequila because this is interesting because I was wondering if Valerie had said that to you if he asked. Are You mad? I was wondering if asking where is it? It's weird to make a meeting with somebody and then you don't show up for two and a half hours that's not normal human behavior and if it was a meeting why why was your wife. There was an important business meeting because I don't trust import catch. He's such a nice person all as he he'd somewhat trust me when I tell you. I have ceased being the gatekeeper on these things. Most people can't get into my life anymore. That's perfect move. Actually now that I think about it. If you're GONNA get stood up just bring someone else won't be but I'm also anticipating the expectation. I would be mad if I've been sitting there by myself yet but when you said five. I figured I'd get there at five thirty when you push it back to five thirty then I said to myself. I'm going to get there at six. Didn't get there by seven. Thirty is a big place. This city I and happened. Did you get close to the place and then turn around by the time you got there. Did you even get closer where you live? What happened besides Super Bowl? Week was I did get to the parking garage. I offered to drive you to back to the heat game. I made it totally unnecessary. I never made it to the park. I have to go to the gym. And untangle my headphones while warming up on the treadmill and I'll finally untangle them four miles later at which point motorcycles make everything exciting and when Geico makes it easy to switch and save on motorcycle insurance. It's even more exciting. I put my headphones and I realized I phones dirt geico motorcycle. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more donlevatar into the room walks a bear of a man. He's been dealing with testicles for damn near three decades I'm terrified stugatz. I have to get on my back. Throw my legs up in the air. Where's my left hand go? Yeah I need to Cup my package. I'm thinking to myself as I'm doing this. It can't get worse than this. He looks me straight in the eye for the first time. We're about to get started. And he says I am such a big fan of your TV and radio shows dude. That's the time you choose to tell me but you laughing I am laughing. Also mystified. I'm vulnerable I'm still scared. It sounds like he had a ball. Vc's live with our show with his two guys on ESPN radio. Stu Gods his weekend. Observations are coming up in about one minute. But if you're listening on the radio and you just heard that story of me at a testicular ultrasound and the last line from Stugatz is sounds like he had a ball This is what Jorges Don. Oh did yesterday talking to Lebron Dave O'Brien by your your thirteen triple double of the season. How much going out there. It looked like you were having a ball that one. There's some degree of difficulty on that one a little bit because we're running out of phrases to give these guys. WanNa wish a happy birthday here. Real quick to friend of the show forty nine year old method man. Happy Birthday to him. I don't care good luck. Espn radio is presented by progressive insurance. All guests on the Dan lebatardshow appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter. Update WHO STRAP IT ON? I think the Jaguars will use their franchise tag on defensive. End Jahic and Gakuen Gakugei. Oh close so close giving them an opportunity to trade him and got way held out at the beginning of the first eleven days of the previous season's training camp wanting a new deal and we'll most likely do it again under the tag. A women's basketball top-ranked South Carolina defeated number twelve Texas. A&m EXCUSE ME POWER THROAT TO WIN. Its third consecutive game. They will finish the SEC. 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Zero with potential landing spots of Indianapolis or New England. The Red Rifle Andy Dalton is back. Pinehurst to go bleep yourself. Wow people who think. They're good golf. Go Boy Pinehurst number two on a forty six degree day with winds blowing twenty miles per hour in all direction. When you're done let me know how good it golf you think you are. How is it people stand in line her ten minutes at starbucks yet to the cashier and have no idea what they want? So funny man it. Ten minutes of figuring out yelping everyone align the bucks fifty two in it really. Good Milwaukee Bucks. Why does fifty two eight start it? Nba History. The bucks have been stuck at eight losses for a while. Now you can't rule out the warriors record you really can't. He's playing thirty minutes a night. And they're beating everybody by double digits. The Milwaukee Bucks are giving up less than ninety points per game over the last three in today's game. You know what that means. They're defenses. Doing Dan shut them down. That means their defense is suffocating. Oh suffocating my and they should still be better forty points. Twenty rebounds and five assists. It's thirty five minutes. Jesus by the way that wasn't a Jesus like Jesus I'm impressed. I call Jaanus Jesus now because he might actually be Jesus agreed. Jesus he's unbelievable report. All signs indicate Titans Tackle Jack. Conklin is going to sign with the jets. Even though the two sides haven't spoken you know what that Means Exchange Dan a winkle and odd. Oh that's what they've exchange data way to. Not Follow by one of your. I know I know what a non guy I appreciate. The elaboration but it was unnecessary. Awake is and what kind of report is that ridiculous? Nfl is closely monitoring the corona virus. Question is anyone else three atoms. I would've given the same exact answer headline leaked video of Trae. Adam saying he wished she had a bigger penis her perfect. Whoever came up with that should get what trae atoms which is. He had a long extension. Also the person who leaked the video should be fired. What happened there extension? I mean that's a long extension afar. Okay and who's leaking these videos and Videos Mazer? The Lakers are working at the waiter. Oh my trout. He Tour Collision Course Rowdy. John Lester said he marvels when watching Yu Darvish John. What you'll eventually marvel at the most is the amount of times darvish lands on the DL. Trysted worth the most impressive combine. I've ever seen offensive lineman yet. I still have no idea if it'll be any good in the NFL Games. James Hoarded said that thing he said about Yoenis Janas played sixty. Two minutes of basketball scored seventy three points down thirty three rebounds and handed out twelve assists. Dan You know what hardened did to Janas. He poked the bear Dan. Okay here's so bad at this terrible having a tough Monday easy. Easy one try. Aaron Judge Injured Giancarlo Stanton Injured Lewis Saravena Injured Mash Unit. Outfit a year then know what the Yankees are a mash unit. Very are a May do not doubt me. My fluency and marriage to this creep is back before you're finished you complete me Let that'd be a lesson to everyone who tries to throw dirt on Kevin Gilbride grave. The only time I haven't seen JILLIAN ATAMAN WITH TOM. Brady. Was it. His mugshot for jumping on the hood of a car in Beverly Hills as always there. The bears saying they will bring in a quarterback so push Mitchell trubisky after spending the entire offseason announcing to the world. Mitchell trubisky is their guy. Why Ing sees it. I feel like relying on the pouncey brothers to send you a weekly. Paycheck is no different than relying on me. La CLIPPERS STARTING TO GEL at the right time. The only time. David Beckham is not the most handsome guy in the room is when Taylor. Twelve men is in the same room. In February kristaps. Porzingis is averaging twenty five points per game or averaged twenty five points per game eleven rebounds per game two blocks per game at four threes per game. The Knicks traded head for Dennis Smith junior and cap space. They would eventually use to get guys like Taj Gibson. I hate that so did James Harden poop himself or WHAT VIPERS. I think he did. I think he did. It'd be put it on. The poll Guillermo did James Harden poop himself vipers twenty-five nothing over the defenders any given Sunday. Also the vipers did Dan. They made a statement. They pitched a shutout. Oh sorry and you know what? The defenders did didn't defend the dragons. Have the bad off. Gave the battle hawks all they could handle and it still wasn't enough has to be a terrible feeling by the way giving someone all they can handle and it's still not being marriage. I wouldn't agree with that so quickly. A more than fifty years and you just got married. You need to sign a long extension B.J. Daniels and scoot be silvers is are too close together to be any good at quarterback. Peter King said Jay they are. They are too close together campaign on the camera. Put It on the poll. Can you be a good quarterback eyes close together lovesick? Careful Peter King said Joe Borough made it clear. He one of the bengals decide free-agent AJ greed dead. You know what Joe Borough is doing already at Cincinnati calling the shots Julia. That'll man is the devil. Tom Brady shoulder speaking of the devil. Orb riles then. Those are the weekend observations. I mean What do you have now? You've become a chronic caller to the show. Now what are you calling in about? Well you corrected Stugatz on his pronunciation of my mood. I'll go but actually mispronounced. It works. That's did name is Mahmoud with hot H Kinda like when you burn your cool my mood not mock mood. There's no hard gay and they're like what people say Akhmed. There's no name as Akkhmed in the Arabic language. That's something because people can. Now's the hardest for making a case so if you can't pronounce that hard as that my my mood Mahmoud kind of a Su got your holy still got you all right. Houses foam worse is amazing. Do you not have functioning phone. I mean I'll has if you're GONNA call so much get a phone that works. Donlevatar in the hypothetical go-ahead fictionally. Go ahead and come up with. If you're a man or a woman. The worst person in the world for your spouse to be having an affair with Stugatz. It's Greenie these live with our show with the stugotz on. Espn RADIO TODAY ON ESPN daily. It said to be an extra mad march for the NC double a powerhouse Duke has fallen in the rankings. While schools like Dayton and San Diego state are popping out. We tell you why. That's ESPN daily with hosmer presented by Adt Download Subscribing Review Espn daily available. Wherever you enjoy your podcasts. We're going to update the polls in a second. Vote at Lebatardshow on twitter. You can also follow us at Lebatardshow on instagram. If you like a whole lot of content. That isn't a related necessarily to what it is that we're doing daily What do you have their STU? Gods in terms of the polls at Lebatardshow. How many do we have today before we get the funniest thing from the sports weekend? Oh we have about eight or nine of them. Okay so we will get to those in a second but first we gotta do funniest thing people. What Sport May Ula hardness? He's weakened segment. We'll go. What made you laugh this weekend. This weekend. Brought to you by advance auto parts get a free battery testing free installation with any automotive battery. Purchase AT ADVANCE AUTO PARTS THE AHEAD ADVANCE. Tony. What was the funniest thing from the sports weekend guys? I don't think we talked enough about James Harden and him pooping himself. Because that was definitely something that happened. I don't care if he wants to throw the blame somewhere else that it was it was that we know what we saw and I'm going to. I'm going to proclaim this now if you haven't ripped apart while playing sports you're not doing it right. It's happened to all of us happened to the best of happen to me. Well One were no. It was a dry one but still farting on. Who's asking he was asking you much more than a wet when we don't know exactly what happened. There cat was on that but it can only Guillermo what was the funniest thing from scoring can only be I mean. What else would it be those? That color in that area agreed. What Kaka Ermo What is the funniest thing from the sportsweek? Dan Bad bunnies latest album. Y H L Q. Md L. G. came out and celebrated he was kind of just doing things. Young people do young musicians so he's at the heat game and he decided to walk on the court. While triple H is music was playing for whatever reason He's very he thought he was going to entertain the crowd and while he did. He's a very important person that money. He is a very important person and he started doing the tribulation. Where he's spitting out the water and then there was security guard who was not super interested in bad bunny. What he was doing is like. Can you please get well? You shouldn't be doing that on the court. There are millions of dollars running up and down the court. That doesn't need all down. What is he supposed to bad wedding? Badlands supposed to do when triple H is music starts Serna Roy. What was the funniest thing from the sports weekend? The flop that Lebron Jeans had while Dillon Brooks has gone to him. He does those those every once in a while. What about you Mike Ryan? They should find they find him for that. There's a follower flopping. Okay Roy taking the bronze money I have a new favorite Jif and yes I call a Jeff. Get over it. Replacing the Alonzo Mourning Jif is Sporting Kansas city manager. Peter Vermes who in three seconds flat gave us bleep off in declarative interactive. And I took a red. I forgot the he took. He did in re different way narrative in three different ways. He said BLEEP OFF TO. He was talking to an official. I assume yeah well. Apparently the Jif is all out of sequence because what happened was a linesman told him to believe phone. Which is where you get the sequence of all Bob Happen. Well let me see. Jif closes with the question. He went but he was. It did seem like he was initially disoriented by the first bleep off bomb and so was an incredulous. Sort of like bleep off. But I kind of prefer the sequence which is bleep. Aw LEAP OFF. What about you guys? What was the funniest thing from this weekend? Javale McGee Went Very Jersey exchange with Williamson after the game last night. Zion gave his tail. Mcgee javale McGee trying to return the favor tried to give his jersey. This ions I ended up. Want it's funny van. Run so weird down the court questions. That's that's that's what I was saying too heavily on his leg. It doesn't go there. Thank you baggy. My funniest thing from sportsweek and is that a hockey game was delayed. Nine minutes By the entrapment of a repelling. Aqua man's wig there were a series of Superhero. Aling down rappelling down. I went to six flags show once it was like a stunt show clogged insult. God and not only didn't have is but also delays the game by nine minutes stunned show and it starts with Batman and Robin repelling and Robin makes it down but Batmans Cape get stuck. Get the Robin believe. He's still trying to go on and on memory six flags and sometimes they're here. Miss most events that gave crusader battle happened was not the answer and the boy wonder expecting when I said what I said like you came in with some expertise yet. I've seen that before. So I'm saying the funniest thing in the sports weekend is that argument was repelling down through the rafters into a hockey arena onto the ice and the game was delayed by nine minutes because on that repel his wig got lost and then caught in a way that ensnared him high enough off the ice that I could have played the game within their dangling. I don't understand how mike was able to row tort with serious knowledge. An that'll happen to repulse. It's tricky situation. I've told you that story before and now we're not going to get into the polls do that tomorrow. But I've told you the story before of one of the initial Marlin seasons the Moreland Mascot. I don't whether it was opening day. Or it must've been opening day. They had a marlins mascot as marlins mascot was going to parachute into the ballpark and as he was coming down the head flew off of of the mascot and he landed headless. And I as the newspaper columnist for the Miami Herald said. I don't want to cover whatever this is today opening day. I'm going to see scared kid that this thing landed among like I can't imagine you're sitting there in a yard. You're playing with your kids and what falls out of the sky is billy the. Marlin severed head and so I go to the navy seal. Who was jumping out of this airplane to interview him saying like this is funny profound chain. The guy is just totally ashamed. Which brings me to was Aquaman. Totally ashamed yesterday that he delayed the game for nine minutes because his wig like that was arguments. Big Moment should've played on. How WHAT BILLY. Yeah I mean. Play underneath him. What it is that you wanted people to do. How does this work there? Were how many superheroes rappelling down all of whom were able to do it with their wigs. Attack Justice League repel down. I don't know how many they were there. It seemed like there were eight or nine superheroes definitely was the justice and only one of them got tangled so we will get an answer on all this important reporting investigative. Work Billy Antonio doing right now. Which who are those superheroes is it the Justice League because all of them landed correctly and I gotta be honest. They looked like they were pretty mad at documented. I'm good man always remains useless right using the frozen water that got it right argument someone who has trouble with ice we now. I didn't even know man had a wig. Did you know those normal hair? Everyone everyone's trying to look like mold.

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Venti, Vidi, Vici | The Press Box (Ep. 569)

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Venti, Vidi, Vici | The Press Box (Ep. 569)

"Welcome to the ringer podcast network. I'm Liz Kelly, but the Super Bowl in the books. I wanted to let you know about all of our coverage cross the site if Kevin Clark Robert Mays Roger Sherman and more breaking down every aspect of the game including winners and losers key plays from the game and the halftime show performance. Also, make sure to check out our YouTube channel where Kevin Clark talked to Amari Cooper on so Newsday and Roger Sherman chatted with players from each team for their thoughts leading up to the game. Be sure to watch and subscribe to our channel on YouTube dot com slash the ringer. David Super Bowl. Fifty three was denounced by the media as boring and dreary reaching for your trustee. Reporters the Sorus what other adjectives could we call the Super Bowl? Oh, man. Plotting good night, googling this interminable soul-sucking time vortex. It was choppy. I woke up in the middle of the night little personal story. I woke up in the middle of the night to feed my infant, son, and and checked work slack. Just dead, you know, through bleary eyes. And there was only one update since the time that I had gone to bed and that was our copy chief leaving a note for the east coast east coast morning editorial crew saying we have two stories with the word boring and the headline and I'm too tired to think of a synonym right now. Feel free to change one. Yeah. It was it was something. And I mean, it was like that was. That was at least there was a sort of unified take on the Super Bowl. There was no there's no mystery what people are going to be saying about it. And I I guess that helps from an editorial point of view. But man, it was it was slow going, man. We used to be a rule that you'd never put boring in a headline because readers would look at it and say well that article is boring. If you're talking about something boring, but I'm not sure that the Super Bowl fifty three deserves even that rule. I think just like it's I think that's what I think. That's what the people want. Right. That's the content. We want described to me in a funny way. How the Super Bowl was boring. Exactly. And and I might ride with you. When everybody has the same Twitter joke. You're just looking to your to your trustee web journalism outlets for confirmation. We are America's favorite soul killing media podcast. This is the press box a part of the ringer podcast network. The press box is the media podcast. We are not allowed to use the metaphor the fire festival of fill in the blank. We are Bryan Curtis. David shoemaker of the ringer in three big topics today. David I we have more thoughts on the Super Bowl than there were points scored in the Super Bowl some deep media think on a deeply unsatisfying big game. Second we discussed the launch and Hindenburg crash of the presidential campaign of Howard Schultz coffee, billionaire is this even a story. And finally, the other huge sports news of the week. The Knicks trade of Kristaps Porzingis to the Mavericks wire NBA trade so effing popular. Plus our weekly notebook dump? And of course, the overworked Twitter joke of the week, but David let's start here with Super Bowl topic. Number one, David here was the MVP of Super Bowl fifty three. No, not Julian Edelman one Tony Romo. Checked waited the whole to Senate and kill more PT waiting for the big time. Interception. Did you David heavy chance before the Super Bowl? Even started to watch a documentary called Tony goes to the Super Bowl. I'm not making this up that was airing on CBS. No, I'm complicit news to me that exists. It was you know, those little documentaries. They show at political conventions that are just sort of like, you know, here's Kamala Harris, here's Donald Trump. This essentially was that but part of the Super Bowl pre-game show, which is like you like Tony Romo you'll love him. Here's your chance to spend some time in his company, and it was really credible at it had like romo's sings in the booth before the game starts, just as I think it kind of way to loosen them up that kind of thing which is not not out of the ordinary actually for sports announcers, a lot of pump music into the beret into their headphones to kind of get themselves in the mood. He was singing way. This this goes directly to you. And I it's like he's speaking to us the theme song from who's the boss? I'm not kidding. Oh my gosh. I have a new found respect for the gay. Yeah. I felt how first of all let me ask you. How'd you think Tony Romo did announcing the Super Bowl after so much hype and buildup, I thought he did. Well, I thought he did. Well, I thought you know, there is there wasn't as much, you know, prognostication or prediction as as as I think some people were hoping for I think that you know, would have been there would have been a little bit more opportunity if either team had been running off into plays at any point in the game. But but I thought I thought overall he he he he he did he made, you know, I was I was paying more attention to him and enjoying him. You know, more than I have announcers in years past and certainly for for how sort of plotting the game was you know, he he did a good job. I think I'm most amazed at the effect. He said on gymnasts and also on the public media perception of gymnasts, which is that an I it's I asked me it's about this at the at the in Atlanta this week in. He said, you know, I said a lot of people say that you have this new energy, and that you're just kinda groovy now with Tony Romo, and I didn't actually know how Nance would react to that. Because in one sense. It's a compliment on the other sense. It's like, you know, wait was I was I so boring before he just said, yeah, he said, I think it's true. And the point he made at that. That was interesting because like I always just try to match up to what my analyst does. So if it's, you know, Bill Raftery in the NCAA tournament, I'm trying to kind of go there. If it's, you know, the majesty of the masters, and Nick Faldo and all that stuff. I'm trying to go there. And if it's, you know, Phil Simms who was let us say pretty downbeat by the end of his run, the CBS, boo. Versus Tony Romo that he's going to match that too. And you just feel him just smiling along with Tony during these broadcasts and just sort of coming to life in a really strange and kind of wonderful kind of way. I don't know that to me mid of all the Bromo stuff, and we've discussed a lot of it. But that that is that is one of the weird sort of secondary miracles of Romo is that he's sort of just found this new gear for gymnasts. I couldn't agree more. I don't know if this is a, you know, a negative reposited. But I I'm I'm in thrall by the sort of the tension that's on the screen not between them, but the tension when they appear on the screen together because you know, when it's just them talking when you're just hearing their voices, you do it's nance's name. It's like it's like two buddies talking about football in a really in a in a fairly intelligent way. And the and it's in it's really intriguing. I mean, it's it's really gripping. But every time they cut to the booth. It's like Tony is like Tony is. Geez. Just natural. He's a natural. Right. I mean, he's almost like a whatever the word is for for like a physical actor an actor who starts with the body. And then it just comes out. It's all just like he's just talking to his buddy and Nance has this like very visceral. Like, you almost looks agitated as he's making the words come out of his mouth to match Tony's excitement, and he just like standing perfectly still it's real. It's it's it's really great. But yeah, I I I mean the calls at the mean the nance's call was was really spot on and incredibly enjoyable and you're right. I mean, he's a he's he's he's found. He's found another gear or at least recaptured an old one. Yeah. I I sort of think that tension. You're saying is between Tony being totally undisciplined and Nance being you know, just the face of a disciplined letter perfect play by play guy. 'cause the thing about Romo is he breaks all these rules that you're supposed to you know, quote, unquote, observe right? One of which is like, hey when the ball is snapped. That's when the play by play guy talks, you're not talking during that period, and you see Romo all the time jumping over the snap going. Jim, Jim, they got the defense attend champions guy. Look is going to be put over the middle. And you know, they've made that work so well because again, it's like I remember a couple years ago. Grant Hill talked when. The winning shot was in the air in the NCA tournament in which it and you're just like, oh my gosh. Like, you, you know. That's like oh gosh. I cannot imagine what nance's thinking in a moment like that. But he has found a way to let Romo just sort of improvise and come in around him and give him so much space to do that stuff. It's it's pretty amazing. I do think listening to Romo that his big challenge for year. Three is he's gotta find out a tone to adopt. When games aren't very good or aren't for him close because there was a lot of bad in that game yesterday, especially Jared Goff. And you didn't get a ton of Tony Romo kind of just, you know, not bagging on anybody. But I think just kind of recognizing the quality of play that's in front of us. You know, it's like when the game was tied three three earlier in the second half. He's like we gotta tight game. Jimmy has that we got a game here. You know? And it's like, yeah. But the rest of us have been watching this for two hours, and it's really boring. You know, and it's almost that's almost where you'd want a little of that Chris Collins were edge. I think in a litter that Chris Collins worth like, I'm just gonna I'm sorry. I just got to say it. I can't watch this anymore and Romo, you know. Because he's so positive, and I think probably you'd probably take that. But he just didn't have that yet. And I sort of wanna see him do that at some point. Sure, I mean in the end, and he had presumably has insight that I mean that that could have I don't know if it could have spice things up, but at least it would have added a layer of interest to the story. I mean, it's there the the the inactivity and the game was in some ways really compelling doesn't make for a very interesting game to watch. But like I desperately wanted to hear someone talk about the just the fee just the feeling of of paralysis or of hopelessness that comes when you realize. That you you're you know, that your coaches trying everything you're trying everything and there's just no way forward. Right. And they're mean, Tony Romo one would think would have some insight into that. But instead it was you're right. It was a little bit rah-rah. It was a little bit waiting for you know, some cues that weren't going to present themselves. And and yeah, I mean, I think I think you're right. I mean, he he has no trouble filling time, he such a, you know, like, you said sort of devil may care in natural at it that that he that that maybe you know, that sort of that sort of preparation is is is what is the next step for him. A couple of notes for you the Gladys Knight national anthem now, we know that we know that the networks have avoided the national anthem when players kneeling during it. But boy once nobody's kneeling do they love to drink up that patriotic Evian water. I mean, you know, the close ups of the players then the flyover at either Laura Ingram tweeting her excitement about the anthem. You know? No, it's sorta like that was a low key. You know, again like in the in the pageantry of Super Bowls which are all about waving the flag. It's no big deal and totally normal with the backdrop of Colin Kaepernick and other things at the NFL has tried to willfully erase from its memory. Was that was still pretty stunning to me? I don't know doing watching this go, whoa. Jingoism like straight into the heart. You know? Here we go we're proudly Americans year. And when this is, you know, this is a little bit of a sidebar, but it turned out that like the online discussion of whether or not Gladys Knight is the be on the mask singer turned out to be one of the more compelling storylines of the evening. Nothing really happened in the game that are not much Evan in the game that that that led to as much like like you searching through Twitter for for me. Anyway, nothing. Nothing has surprised me more American life than the popularity of the mass singer midnight mass singer number one Trump Trump's election as president number two. I don't I don't get it can number three B Y Todd Gurley wasn't playing in the Super Bowl guess because that's where I'm going next. How how did the media not solve that mystery by gametime or even during the game yesterday? I was kind of figuring it was gonna be a sideline reporter news dump, you know, sometimes they get it. And you're not allowed to share it until gametime, but you know, and then you put it out there when it's kinda safe, but. All we got even after the game from Sean McVeigh was tall girl. He's fine. No problems at all ten carries. Thirty five yards of total non factor for the second game in a row that was weird. And I just think when you have a billion reporters all after the story, it just always amazes me. When there's something they kind of can't figure out. Well, I mean to me the most I mean in the most compelling argument, or the most compelling theory that I heard was that he was hurt and McVeigh was deliberately obscuring that so that, you know, to mess with the scouting reports or whatever else and then had to kind of stick to it to the bitter end because of whatever league rule liability. He would have been subject to girly. Sure didn't seem like he was part of some sort of scheme when he was interviewed after during before during and after the game, you know, it was really weird. And I think that I think if it had been a better game. I mean, certainly if the if the if the. Rams had one that kind of all would have gone by the wayside. But but in a in a night, you know, that was like sorely in need of just some sort of mystery. There are some sort of suspense. You know, the the the question about Todd Todd Gurley sort of filled that hole, even even if it was sort of an an awkward storyline that one carry called back in the fourth quarter. When it looked like he was going to maybe run them down to a touchdown or something, you know. And I was but anyway, didn't happen. Did you happen to notice David baseball writers using a boring Super Bowl and the MVP for PD? I was gonna say suspect, but being convicted PD guy, Julian Edelman to troll football and football fans. Yes. I did see a aware. Weird subplot. Yeah. Tyler Kettner, the New York Times. What was the last World Series is uninteresting as the Super Bowl may be nineteen ninety nine cap again. A reminder that in baseball Julian Edelman would have not been eligible to play in this postseason because he served a PD suspension this season. John Hayman longtime baseball insider, NFL summary, capper, Nick, blackballed, Eshelman glorified. So that was weird. I'm in. I just love seeing the baseball true believer reassert themselves that I I kind of have a soft spot for baseball true believer because it's just so determinedly out of fashion in this age in BA, true believer, man, you're getting all the money, but baseball true believer. You're you're fighting the tide, buddy. But they enforce. I was I was blissfully unaware. I thought that we had moved on. I thought we had moved beyond the like like the P P D's are universally bad point of view, even in the baseball world. But I guess not or at least for the sake of making an argument. You know, anything goes, I mean, I had I don't know. I I mean, it was some of them on their own each of a made for, you know, made for like kind of good little bits of snark. But but taken as a whole, it was it, you know, it's always funny to watch people from other from other, you know, beats that are just like come in with their like just really deliberate point of view catering their own audience during the during other events. You know, I've I Lord knows I've had my share of just like making wrestling jokes during presidential debates and whatnot. But like, you know, it's a there's a limit. I think to the usefulness or the end even even the humor of all that. But yeah, I don't know this this is beside the point. I don't know if you watch the halftime show. But but I I'm pretty sure Adam LeVine was glad they're not spot testing. They musical acts either because he probably wouldn't have been eligible to to to play in the postseason either. The there's a really good column. I'm going to ignore that insinuation. There's a really good college from Joe Sheehan baseball writer who just talks about how this is completely who does not use this opportunity to stand on a high horse, but says violating drug Palestinian NFL as a misdemeanor because it serves the NFL for it to be a misdemeanor and violating the drug policy in MLB as a felony because it serves Melby for it to be a felony. And it's a really good column that sort of traces all the labor anyway, encourage everybody to check that out postgame, David Tracy Wolfson does CBS Aislinn reporter goes to interview Tom Brady. And is lost for a few minutes. And we kind of here this disembodied voice going and now Tom Brady is embracing Julian Edelman and now Brady is embracing Bellichik and now Brady is embracing craft. And it just went on and on. It was like one of those YouTube videos of like the local reporter who's like in the and now the hurricane is coming in. And then they just get like like, they just get smacked on the side of the head by flying mailbox or something like that she Tracy Wolfson like winter win for her like standard post game interview. And just got caught and like a in a black flag mosh pit. And it was it was it was pretty amazing. I mean, everybody was commenting on it, you occasionally would just see your head pop up. And it was just these like the scrums of like if media who was just trying to get all the Brady footage. They can was just like pushing in Brady had the security team that seemed to be more impressive than any offensive line. He's ever played behind that was pushing everybody back, but they are voices were the loudest ones in the. Audio of the whole thing as they were trying to maintain crowd control. And and they kept saying stuff like I'm trying to help you right? They were trying to help her. That's what they kept saying. I'm actually trying to help. Eventually, they eventually they they one of them did Rangel. The the, you know, the the the post game interviews like which one is your camera. Okay. We're getting you in here now. But there was you know, apparently, everything every, you know, I mean, maybe there's something sort of refreshing about the fact that like this fight, you know, I mean, God love, Tracy Wilson. But like everything sort of takes it back seat to the human element of Brady embracing posing players and coaches and his own teammates. And everything else. I think that that's a and there's something sort of nice about that. But it was it was it did it did lend a little bit of drama to to kind of quiet for the fourth quarter. And I and I think it's you know, everybody jokes about sideline reporters all the time. But I think there are moments when reporting is reduced to a physical act rather than an electoral act, and you just have to physically get the person anybody who's. Done sports. Writing knows this by Shelvin ran a locker room or gonna running down a hallway to get somebody or in congress, or whatever it is. And it's like she just has to get Tom Brady. She's not half to wrangle Tom Brady threw publicist. She doesn't have to set. She just has to physically corral Tom Brady. And that is the most, you know, kind of like I said like basic reportedly function and she God bless her. She got him my other favorite, by the way. CBS has Evan Washburn. Who the other side, Leonard porter? He when CBS does the Super Bowl he gets to talk to the losing coach. And I'm pretty sure this was only on CBS S N. I did not see it on the actual big CBS post game show. But Evan Washburn often looks more shaken than the losing coach like he he start. I think it was. Rod Rivera couple of Super Bowls gonna guess a coach, Bobby. I don't know. What did I don't know? What to say by God? You know, you must and Ron Rivera actually looked fine. And I was like on Rivera's. Okay. Somebody go. Find somebody go get some help for Evan Washburn. But I just want to know that he he sort of corrected this time and Sean McVay legitimately look sadder than Washburn. That was that was kind of a big moment in in Super Bowls for me. Quote of the game. Or of the post game goes to Rams tackle Andrew Whitworth told our very own Robert Mays at the end of the day. We're all gonna die. Which feels like the existential sequel to the all-time quarter quote from Duane Thomas running back the Cowboys who said if the Super Bowls the ultimate game. How come they're playing it again next year, which is really fantastic. They are book ends if you want to get past ex's nodes, go talk to Wayne Thomas or Andrew Whitworth. That was awesome. Like, we're this had a great role ever since he signed with the with the Rams has taken on this weird like spiritual animal role for the for the entire press corps. I don't know if it was of like the sad shape of the teams that he played for before signing there. But you know, it it there is something very interesting about, you know, some players will sign with a team like the Rams and be seen is like front runners or ring chasers. And he's just sort of like this, you know, workaday guy who's just like trying to find success in a win a world where he's never been able to sniff. It, you know, and and and it it it sort of fitting, maybe maybe I'm reading too much into it. And maybe it's. Just that this guy is just been the most incredible, quote, the entire time or this just sort of like dark philosopher their edits entire career. That was a real a real incredible moment in one of those great moments where multiple people like everybody in the scrum tweeted at quote the exact same time. You know, everybody's everybody wants to get that out there in the world. Yeah. And maize tweeted, the context makes a lot more sense. But it just sounded like the ultimate dire losers locker room, quote, by the way, I think it's part of the part of the part of the power of it is how Andrew Whitworth looks. Because he looks kind of like, you know, John Fetterman who's the Lieutenant governor, Pennsylvania mayor. So like when existential truths are coming out of the mouth of a guy that just looks like that, it's a little bit more of a little bit gives it a little more who've I wanna close David by talking about the Washington Post commercial. They're ran in the fourth quarter during the two minute. Warning. Let me give you a little bit of Tom Hanks doing the narration. When our nation is threatened. There's someone to gather the facts. To bring you the story. No matter the cost. Because knowing empowers us. Knowing helps us decide. Knowing keeps us free. They used to have a halftime act of the Super Bowl called up with people that was like in our childhood. So this is up with journalism. This is this is the sequel, this is the I love this tweet from our old pal. Dan, amber, of course, the newspaper industry would invest its remaining millions in an ad that runs when the game is essentially over no one cares anymore. That was. Also a note from page six which might be true Jeff visas pulled the plug on a twenty million dollars Super Bowl ad for his spaceflight company, blue origin after it was revealed. His mistress at helps you footage for the commercial and in this might have been the fill the fill in for the spot. He bought what did you make of of advertising the virtues of journalism during the ultimate game? Wow. I mean, I know the Washington Post is doing really well. But you know, I in a week of like mass media layoffs. I'm not sure if that was the. The spending twenty million dollars in a Super Bowl ad really like bounce the scales at all. But, but yeah, you know, you know, I'm sure that like now all those post employees have something that they can show their kids to explain what they do on career day or whatever. And it's that's nice shockingly. It was popular on Twitter with journalists. I don't know if they know that's been sure when you extol the virtues of journalism and the most grandiose manner journalists get really excited, we are the cheapest dates in the world, baby. It's amazing. All right. David for the overworked Twitter joke of the week where we celebrate a gag that was so obvious that all of media Twitter made it at exactly the same time. Can we get the non Super Bowl entrance out of the way? And then I'll cut back to the Super Bowl theme. Yeah. Let's do that courting to Reuters Foxconn. Remember, the company Foxconn is reconsidering its plans to make Vance liquid crystal display panels at eighteen billion dollar, Wisconsin campus, the twenty million twenty million square foot campus excuse me was praised by President Donald Trump as proof of his ability to revive American manufacturing. So it was an overworked and very easy. Overwork Twitter joke to say, FOX conned. Thanks, Jane, drew Lewis for that one. Yeah. I know since we probably should say the name Ralph. For them in this podcast goal. He being the democratic governor of Jinnah who had a black face picture in his yearbook. It was an overworked Twitter joke to say when the question many are asking after your apology is are you the guy in black face or the KKK outfit? You're in deep deep trouble. Thank you to Matthew Benson for that. When a now for the Super Bowl, David the Super Bowl of overwork Twitter jokes. Did you notice how many people were calling Jared Goff Jared gaffe during the game Jared, gaffe, speaking of reaching for your the Sorus? It was an overworked Twitter joke to suggest when the Rams were in the midst of eight straight punts that punter Johnny Hecker should be the MVP. Another one, quote both teams are playing like they don't want to visit the White House that was that was actually pretty good when they had that cool ad for the NFL's hundredth anniversary the head all the players in it. It was an overworked Twitter joke to say girly has more yards in that NFL one hundred ad than in the game. Oh, the halftime show. Now, it's probably a good idea to do the halftime show. But do you think maroon five knew that the halftime show is going to be an occasion for people who don't think about maroon five at all their daily lives just to make jokes about route. I think they had to be dimly aware of it. I mean on the one hand they're the sort of perfect act to fill in that space. But there was a little I mean, we when they announced the maroon five was performing it was in the midst of a. It's a great, you know, quandary into who actually like what is the halftime show in who would be willing to even play the halftime show in current year. So I don't know if they were doing it as a favor or if they were just. I don't know how what they're decide decision making was. But they had to be canny enough to know there'd be a lot of that. Couple of maroon five over works. Number one. This man, I saw this one hundred times. Halftime colon. Maroon five patriots three Rams zero. Some people did that one another one I still haven't heard a good explanation of why I'm not watching imagine dragons right now. Okay. So that at least twice weirdly in a legitimately funny. One from Djamil hill in our own Tyler tines while watching Adam LeVine before this gentrification. Just. Really excellent. And how about is this the first ever time that LeBron James as at an overworked Twitter joke mill the game. He tweets man, where shamans whoa, JR. Hanes mcmenamin at with a shrug emoji. One of many people tweeting during the Super Bowl the Super Bowl was so boring. So if you were lusting for a wo- JR. Bomb in the middle of the Super Bowl. Congrats you made the overwork Twitter joke of the week a lot of people to thank Greg Connors. Patrick Karan at Jay rock four one four Daniel Payne, Elliot powers. Brennan schneider. Jason Mcgann C B so an at our gala umbrella, and by the way, David special, thanks to Greg. Just Greg who tweeted and overworked Twitter joke at Brian Koppelman. Please leave Brian couple, but alone to write screenplays to cinema here. We'll we'll take care of this. Don't worry. All right. David topic number two, Starbucks founder, and billionaire Howard Schultz announced he has made me sort of interested in running for president kind of amazing that Howard Schultz isn't actually running for president this point. But we're still talking about this. Anyway, here's how Schultz was greeted by his cheering supporters. I am seriously considering running for president as a centrist independent, and I wanted to clarify the word independent which view wearily as a designation on the ballot. And what? What you eat. Billionaire. You think sit in a donation after that? Oh my gosh. Oh, my dining and went what Annunciation. I mean. That was just that was a that was a tour to force is amazing. How clear it was wasn't. Yes. I saw like just the leg transcript version. I was like, surely we're not going to be able to hear this. But man, we heard just fine. So a couple of interesting things, I think about the Scholtz candidacy from from our demented media perspective here number one. Nobody knows anything about Howard Schultz, either personally or his or certainly his political views. So we're watching him being vetted on the fly like literally live on television under to watch any of the morning Joe interview. He did. Yeah. The other day, and I can't believe I'm saying this. But it was I thought as vets of Rando presidential candidates go. It was really pretty good numb. You sorta had will. Geist and Mike barnicle pressing him on why he wasn't running as a democrat. And then on the other hand you had me Brzezinski like being able to accidentally generate all these gaffes like him saying that Reagan never took his coat off in the Oval Office. Not true him saying that the best democratic president in the last fifty years was FDR. And here's the Mika testing. Whether Howard Schultz can truly be a man of the people how much does an eighteen ounce box of curious cost an eighteen ounce box of Cheerios. Oh god. Like budgets for the VA. We're gonna ask you question. Why? I don't eat. I don't eat Cheerios. I'm sorry. It's is it four bucks. Yeah. It's yeah. I think the real news here might be the Joe Scarborough also doesn't know how much Cheerios Gus. Howard Schultz has it excuse. He's the med globe. Maniacal billionaire Joe Scarborough, just a mega mega maniacal millionaire. Like, you shouldn't you have bought a box of Cheerios at some point it just shows up on the front door from post mates, or whatever. I mean. And if they actually see how much it costs on the show. The Schultz got a ton of press covers sixty minutes. The view Anderson Cooper, what did you make of something? I saw over and over again this week which was why are we treating Schultz who has like a four percent approval rating as a serious candidate and not treating other marginal Democrats as serious candidates. Oh, that's a good question. You know, I think that there is. I mean, there's there's gotta be some sense of that. If he's running as independent, the the democratic primary will sort of construct the narrative for media, and and and Schultz is a story that is kind of being constructed in real time. And the media can really have a have, you know, an active hand in in telling that story. I it's I think that that, you know, he's he's an interesting character. And I think that people see him as you know, as a, you know, an interesting counterpoint to Donald Trump backstories, and and and you know, business successes and everything else. But I think you know, I mean there had to be some level of hope that he would come forward with some sort of policy that he, you know, some some sort of ideas that he did not I it. It is interesting. I don't know what do you think? Well, just on the base quest. Basic question before we get to his very nebulous ideology. I would say I don't I of course, it's a new story. Right. And of course, like, you're telling me mega maniacal billionaire wants to run for president and will potentially cost the Democrats. What could be a layup election and re elect Donald Trump? That sounds like a story that sounds like a story to me. Now, you don't have to treat Howard Schultz. Seriously. You don't have to pretend that this vision of centrism actually makes any sense or has any kind of hard ideals behind it. But like, of course, that's news. Like, of course, that's that seems like a big deal. And I just I feel a lot of this is like again, I feel we could have like a weekly section of the podcast on this. But it's it's Trump PTSD, which is yeah, we gave the rich guy a lot of attention last time and. And he somehow got elected president. So let's never give the rich guy attention again. And I and I just don't I don't know that that's the reason Trump got elected president. If you watch these Howard, by the way, I gotta say having watched a couple of sheltering this morning. He was much better. I just kind of read like accounts of it and seeing tweets about it mostly and watched again, he was better on camera. I thought but he is not Donald Trump. He does not have that kind of magnetic appeal. So yeah, I mean, I just I just think I just think it is a story. And I think when you watch e again even stuff like morning, Joe the club east cable news show, you could possibly imagine. Like he goes on there. And you sort of come out come away thinking like, oh, boy, this guy doesn't have a lot of ideas as guy doesn't really know what he's talking about now. And that will do the job just fine. Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of the places that gave him. Coverage on morning, Joe is a great example would have given him that same slot. If he had, you know, started new charity, you know, he didn't have to be running for office to get airtime. He is a, you know, successful person that at least the people in those chairs are interested in. But yeah, I mean, you're right. The the the the sort of. The emptiness of it is I think what you know struck a lot of people as as as most galling, you know, we're used to independence or third party candidates being sort of technocrats, or, you know, issue candidates and not like Ghazi idealists, you know, that are coming out here talking about about how both parties have let us down which is true. But it's not, you know, it's it's not particularly helpful on its own. And you know, what we've seen with him. I mean, I think that the the kind of the most poignant critique as as was evidenced by that great sound bite. We played a minute ago. Is that is that third party candidates? Have have come to be seen. You know? It's not it's not the the the biggest obstacle for third party candidacies is is maybe not structural anymore. It's that they're they're viewed as a Trojan horse to just defeat one candidate or another, right? I mean, it's it's not. It the the the the actual message of the campaign is is totally secondary to that, you know, preconceived notion. Yeah. It he doesn't have much of an answer for that. You know, those are his weakest answer by far among a lot of week answers is why don't you just run as a democrat. And he's nerd soggy about how he can't, you know? It's like why don't you run as a centrist democrat your day? You were a democrat. You know, why don't he eat? What don't you try to do what Donald Trump did to the Democrats? If you don't agree with their ideas is running their primary and try to you know, prove that your ideas are more popular than rank and file Democrats. But he doesn't really have a great answer that I mean, it feels like a very ninety s campaign. Does it not? I'm a rich guy. I know how to solve problems. I'm gonna keep saying like, I'm gonna point when they ask you. What are you gonna do about healthcare? You know, because of all the resistance you're gonna face in congress. And he keeps saying I'm just going to have smart people telling me what to do right, which is like a very Russ brust, bro kind of thing. And then also like I just have some kind of CEO know-how. Of how to get things done. I read this piece by Simon Molloy and media matters who was going through some of the greatest hits of centrist movements. Wooing the media. And then going nowhere. You'll remember the unity party and Americans elect also total class. We've now forgotten which was axios co founder Jim Vanda high reading about the innovation party that was going to have more executive Bergen chill Sandberg running the nation. Yes. How did that turn out? And what he taught what he talks about is how this how these kind of candidates are catnip to certain made men and women though, mostly men in opinion media, he mentions yahu is Matt by the Atlantic. Stay would from an ABC's the note, and that's all true. But don't we live in a media world where those people are less powerful than they've ever been. You know, like, I did I didn't know the note was still going. Honestly, I really did not know that I guess as a consumer of media was on. I just feel. Will the media? The political media set up now that centrists actually garner maximum skepticism instead of the loving open embrace of David Brooks, which carries as much weight. What do you think about that? Yeah. I mean, I think it's justifiable. Right. I mean, regardless of your politics, I think it's it means centrism is centrism is not a governing philosophy. Maybe it is maybe it's too much governing philosophy. But like tell us what you tell us. What you believe, you know, don't tell us what you're. What what what makes you like feel icky about the about the existing political parties, you know, about about their structural problems? I think that an and I mean, it's interesting just has you know, I mean from a from a liberal point of view. I mean centrism is is feels like, you know. Hazy night out from you know, last weekend that we're still trying to come to grips with and and and recover from. It's I it's all it means. It's it it just I I don't know it just it just seems like a really just seems like a very strange way right now to try to you know, to to try to make some noise, and especially you know, when when Mike Bloomberg is running as a democrat, who's a, you know strikes a sort of similar figure, but but he's you know, he's decided to go the more. He's decided to go the party route. And listen for you know, regardless of what you think about about Donald Trump's seriousness. You know, particularly was when he was running for president. He was a he was something approaching a public figure for many years leading up to his campaign, you know, a political figure and this just feels like just the I mean, the the the. The sort of novelty of Howard Schultz, just sort of underscores this sort of feeling of a lack of seriousness the fact that he's not coming out with any big platform ideas. Although he's, you know, eager to criticize Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris on on, you know, healthcare and taxes. You know? I mean, it's just it's like he was he was caught so flat-footed not having his own ideas that he that, you know, he's just like jumping and he had to jump in with these like half formed like nags on whatever they had to say. It's I mean, it's been a pretty spectacular brief run. I oh, I there is a there was a great. There was a there was a tweet. I just saw today from I guess it was from a couple of days ago from guy, Dan, lavar at Howard Schultz went from oh is he that Starbucks guy to this man represents literally everything wrong with late capitalism. And I will do everything in my power to stop his rise in like two and a half. As. Close out with solid work. Bill burton. It was the was the political consultant who who is sort of steering the ship. It's it's, you know, there's there are a lot of there's a lot of reasons why this this thing might be kind of tanking the way that it is. But it's been pretty impressive to watch. So far yet. I think the biggest thing you're going to see next is journalists just dining out for day after day or as long as this campaign last on vetting Howard Schultz because there was a there was a post on the lawyer guns and money blog by Paul compos. Who just did some very minor fact checking on Schultz's stories about how he got from the projects in New York City to college and the stories were just totally different. And you know, it again, it was like a relatively minor sort of thing. And it wasn't wasn't wasn't a big. Gotcha. But it was just one of those things where you just realize this. Persons public record nonfinancial public public record has just not been scrutinized at all. Yeah. And you know, this is the kind of stuff was like Donald Trump. You know, is there almost too many moving targets, but that's gonna be the next thing. And that's going to be, you know, days if not weeks of, you know, big big big investigative pieces and little investigative pieces in journalists are going to be very happy. I believe. With get from that. Well, I mean, Jonathan Chait wrote a piece he think he's written a couple of pieces on on Scholten, and you know, for whatever you think about him. I mean, does sort of strike the figure of someone who might be enamored with a Schultz candidacy, but has been pretty clear eyed, and and and tagging towards his chances, and in the midst of of, you know, talking about some other issues he brings up that she'll the the fact that Schultz was shocked at the at the degree of democrat anger and says that that that that his that very surprise is should be disqualifying for his candidate candidacy that he was just, you know, unprepared for this sort of response. And I think that there's something to that amount anything's disqualifying. And I think that you know, you're right that there's going to be a lot of real time, vetting and everything else. I mean, the interesting thing about Schultz is that regardless of what happens to him. Now, you know, if he continues to runs an independent he can continue to run for as long as he wants. To you know. I mean, there's not there's no DNC that's going to be you know, elbowing him off the stage. But, but I do think that that, you know, the there there will be a if there will be a, you know, more of a metaphorical elbowing off, and when people start paying attention to it independent candidate like that, regardless of the amount of money that you have to spend. I think that will you know, I'm sure there's already been a rude awakening. Then it'll only continue. Our David top number three. The Kristaps Porzingis trade will wandering around radio row in Atlanta Thursday. The news came down that the New York Knicks traded Porzingis to the Dallas Mavericks for a package of players and draft picks in my first reaction from the Super Bowl was to Email the ringers very own Kevin Clark and say RIP to the ringers brief run as a football site because I knew ship. The Super Bowl is over maybe soup, the ship was dirty door, the Boers Inga's drape. I guess I'm interested mostly we'll leave the basketball analysis to to the the other people. But I'm amazed and interested in why stories like this aren't just kind of medium popular. But just grab everybody's attention in sports. I mean, this is sort of in my nuts to call this kind of a medium sized NBA trade is that that nuts is this is this is this a giant NBA trade? I don't think so it sort of a medium trade. It has some great soap opera stuff as when porzingas wrote my suggestion to Knicks fans is to stay woke on his I believe on Instagram Sunday morning, which is awesome. Also was at MSG or which which Knicks TV network put up the graphic of porzingas, which all the basic stats and then at the bar, and then just sat in the middle of it said skipped exit meeting with front office after twenty sixteen seventeen. Season that was really getting back at him. But what do you think why does this story? Like this have so much salience with us at the ringer in with everybody else will first of all go Mavericks, and I look forward to. Our mavericks. Look forward to our upcoming segment and in a year or two about the the way the media's covering the Mavericks championship the. Yeah. I mean, this is this was a really weird one a lot of different factors in play. I mean, I think for one thing it just happened. So quickly. And and we can get into the, you know, the kind of the tick tock of it and a little bit. But you know, from from the moment that like there was any rumor at all about porzingas changing location until until the the trade was finalized was. I mean, it just seemed like the blink of an eye. Right. And so it so it was actually news that was breaking sort of on Twitter timeline. And I mean that I guess in two different ways, but eight it was I it it all it just seemed so urgent and so real, and there's also this when the details of the trade stirred trickle out, it seemed it did seem like it is I take what you mean by it being a medium sized trade. This is not, you know, superstar for superstar whatever, but but it did seem like a really lopsided trade. And so there's all the there there is a lot of fans there. I mean fans were justifiably kind of perplexed as to one what the rest of the story was now the trade as it as it as it sort of, you know, came out the trade was a little bit was less lopsided. Than it seemed. But there were questions about like, well, I mean is is forcing us more hurt than we than we've lead on is. He just you know. I mean, there's the sort of existential question is he just less of a superstar than we've been led to believe by the media for the past several years. You know, is it is there, you know. Is there something else at play? And then there's then there's the the real deeper story, which is if you know all presuppositions are true in the Knicks are really just only interested in clearing out their cap. So that they can sign Kevin Durant. Kyrie Irving next summer will then you know, it's pretty amazing that there is a story that is that significant that just no one can really report because it would break any any and every NBA bylaw to to to acknowledge that it's true. There's just there. There are a lot. It's not an it's not it's not just porzingas. Then right. I mean, we're talking about porzingas and every top tier free agent next summer. We're talking about Luca Danni kitchen, and and you know, his his. Rise as a rookie to NBA prominence in what this means for, you know, his time line there's a lot of. And of course, there's Mark Cuban and much more significantly James Dolan, and the just his just hapless helming of the of the New York Knicks. There's just a lot of little lot of major players in the NBA soap opera here more than just Kristaps Porzingis who is in amazing, and who will be very healthy, very soon and leading the Mavericks to a championship. So I got like four reasons they're the suddenness of the trade, which is the sense of any new story right to it. Whether the next got robbed, which is standards or story free agency hypotheticals that this unlocks for next summer and beyond. And then this sort of thing that Bill talks about a lot, which is this sense that people are conspiring in the NBA behind the scenes, you know, with tampering and free agency and all that stuff. F-? I don't I I hesitate to use the words NBA dark web that URL pal. Jake, hang us. But, you know, this is a sense that sense that they're these unseen forces working in the NBA that everybody is dying. No about at that are controlling everything. And that sort never gets public. I guess I guess what's partly amaze me as just like the way in BA news goes from hypothetical hypothetical hypothetical rate. The Knicks have been a hypothetical for. Nine years longer than that. When did they start dumping salaries to get LeBron? You know, the first time those two dozen yet. Right. They've been on and off this for a while. Yeah. So it's just like, it's I guess what's amazing about the NBA. If if there were an NFL team or any other team that had just done this year after year after year and had never actually been a coherent basketball team. We would have just given up, but may whether it's the sort of weirdo glamour of the Knicks team. That's never won anything considering how long they've been famous or just the way that the thing, you know, the NBA works now, I guess is interesting. Also, like, we did an emergency podcast about it. And there are so many good points made in that one was I think it was Simmons just reeling off all the major NBA superstars that have changed teams in the last eighteen months Kawai Jimmy button. Cler Chris Paul, Kyrie Irving, Paul George. Blake griffin. Boogie cousins were singers and Anthony Davis in the next sometime in the next five minutes. Right. Which is just incredible to think of how much news that has all you know, thrown off all those different moves. And also Chris Ryan made this point where he's talking about. Like, why players wanna constantly change teams now? And he said, I think if I wrote this down, right? The constant churn of action is creates more interest in who they are. Right. So it's there's a there's an I wanna win a title thing, which is very real. But there's also an IM brand entity beyond team sport and everything else. And if I change teams people be more interested in me, you know, if I just say like, I'm tired of this. I want to go do something else that will make my brand more potent. Sure. And that's really interesting to me. I guess I guess the funny thing is if it's like that then is the right move to. To go to battle stations every time something like that happens if trae if major NBA moves are that frequent and if they're being done with an eye toward like, I just need to shake things up. So I can get some more attention at least at least partially right? Some of import zinc as I knew it wasn't gonna win anything with the next we wanted to leave. But some of it is about like resetting new commercial opportunities cetera et cetera. Do we in the media need to pay as much attention to these things? Or should we rightly be like well that in a vacuum that seems like a giant trade, but we've just had nine giant trades or free agency moves in the last eighteen months. So maybe we should scale down our expectations of this thing. Yes. I mean to the extent that some of these trades actually affect the balance of power in this season of the NBA. And I guess I mean, it's not I mean, there's a few right? I mean, y Leonard I mean is has made Toronto into a real contender Jimmy Butler. You know, hasn't been the magic bullet in in Philly. But, but certainly, you know, makes them a lot more interesting than boogie cousins you signing with the warriors. And now that he's playing me. And that's that's you know, that's that's a real thing. Paul George in Oklahoma City has been sort of a revelation, but you know, in in whatever revelation the lost in the first round of the playoffs last year was last year right now. No that that's true this year. He's that. He's he's he's he's on another level. But we'll see if that pans out. But I think that I think that you know, there there are those that are that are significant. But an and I think the rest of them are just sort of this, you know, were by and large and we're talking about transactions. We're talking about a coming draft picks. We're talking I mean, most of these trades were were talking about the sort of like the the the post warriors future of the NBA. Like, wait, what what the landscape will look like when there is a maybe as soon as next season when there is a little bit more parody or a little bit more opportunity for other teams. But I think that's all part of this. You know basketball Twitter fan Fiqh that that the league is become right? I mean, it's it's all it's a role playing game. You know, it's get the table top card game or something. It's a it's it's it's we're just we're just kind of like trading cards, and and getting excited about you know, these little these little chessboard moves but the answer to like do. Need to be giving this much attention. I mean, we we do if we do have people care, right? And we all care. So or maybe I'd put it a little differently, which is I don't have any moral Jackson to this. And I don't certainly don't have any moral objection to players deciding they wanna play somewhere else because if it's generated by the player to me, all the better. I just wonder do we need to think about in BA transactions differently if they're this frequent and if if quote, unquote, major trades are unprecedented, major trades or actually happening all the time. Should we should we think about it differently than maybe we did five ten years ago? I don't answer that the maybe right? I mean. Yeah. There's there's definitely a case to be made. And it's I mean, there's also this question about what kind of constitutes a major trade. I think that more than anything. It's just the excitement and the hype. I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot of the, you know, there's a lot of kind of Stroman drawing about whether or not there's enough, you know, with all these superstar teams everybody wants to play together. You know, what happens to the teams that are left over? But like the lists that you read I mean makes it sound like there's actually kind of plenty of superstars to go around. Right. I mean, there's there's in any of you have teams like the nuggets, whoever he was like who seem to be doing really well with just like can zero household names and only one and a half like super-duper stars, you know, and it's an it's a. You know, it is sort of interesting. I I mean as far as I'm concerned, this is I mean, there's there's no more interesting time of year than the time where you're just like constantly hitting refresh on the hoop hype Brumer page to see what's happening. And it's it's it. It's fun for me. And it's nice to you know. I mean, it's we just we just got done watching a really boring Super Bowl with a team that just like basically put together a fantasy team and and could only score three points. So it's, you know, it's nice to pay attention to a to a sport where you know, some of these transactions might be a little bit more meaningful. Did you just use the term Sturman drunk multiple times in his podcast that I use it twice? I think so. Oh my God. Well, they set it. Right. I hope I said it, right? One of those times. It'd be great next next week. Make sure you switch to double ganger or buildings Rome on if you wanna mix more. It's more the more Germans have cheaper your Soroush. Yeah. All right. David. Let's do the notebook up. I got some twenty twenty updates for you. I think we have our first campaign in disarray story, which is tolsey Gabbard, which was probably the odds on favourite for campaign in disarray. Right. This comes to us from politico. The Gabbard campaign saying they are dumping the consultants that they just hired your times reported job and Martin notes that this is, you know, the old campaign excuse when you fire a bunch of people in your campaign has oh the plan was always for them just to stay through the primary. They weren't gonna sit in general election this time, he says the plan was always for them just to stay through the campaign launch. Right. So it's just literally days under our employment also via Martin Gabbard dropped the I use the first documented use of the word. Neil liberal. As a as a as a bad word during the campaign. She tweeted as commander in chief. I will work to end the new Cold War nuclear arms race in slide into nuclear word that is why the neo-con Neo lib were mongers will do anything to stop me. So that was how. Yeah. The tweet from journalism. Professor, Matthew pressman, he says consensus among journalists and media, critics is it election. Coverage suffers too much from too much horse race coverage and treating politics like a sport. So the Washington Post decides to assign thirteen of its top analyst to do a power ranking of twenty twenty candidates just to note that the power ranking is now it's not just for. It'd be a dues Deboer. I I don't think we can guess versions on power rankings here the radio, but just just just throwing that out there, man. Man. They got to that. I jeez. Probably we should have done on the press box. The you know, I always like to keep track of all the people who are calling the end of Donald Trump's presidency. So I was attracted this tweet from constitutional law. Professor Laurence tribe who writes, the great Robert Jay Lifton. But down know who the great Robert Jay Lifton is bullish go with us. The great Robert Jay Lifton makes a persuasive case that a failure to get his wall will deflate Trump's balloon. And Mark the beginning of the of his presidencies end. So markdown February third as the day that the great Robert Jay Lifton declared that Trump's presidency was over or the beginning of Trump's the end of Trump's presidency. Somebody's going to be right one of these days. It's true. It it may it may be November twenty twenty but somebody is going to correctly predict the end of Trump's presidency and finally David bad news of the week. I thought we should have a section called bed. News the weight because something horrible happens to journalists every week now. Vice media announced his laying off two hundred and fifty people or ten percent of its workforce. And I don't know how to talk about this anymore other than just pick somebody who's been affected and actually read their tweet. So this is Nigel dura veteran advice. All right, folks. The lay offs finally came from me after dodging them at Gannett and a p I think I was kinda do love the folks I worked with advice in to watch the show seven thirty weeknights. Anyway, Email in the bio sued, so I feel that could be a horrible KOTA for this era of web journalism mail in the bio. Maybe maybe that's the name of the segment from now on Jesus, and I'm guessing more bad news next week. But anyway, can't joke about the media for for the whole time without without tried to wrap your mind around that stuff. All right, folks. That's the press box. He is David shoemaker. I'm Brian Curtis research from Chris Maida production from Jim Cunningham. We're back next week with more hot takes on the media CNN, David Letterman. David. Did you happen to notice David? I'm a rich guy. 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Romos Big Contract, First Takes Rise, Bidens Comeback, and the Coronavirus With Bryan Curtis and Jason Gay | The Bill Simmons Podcast

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Romos Big Contract, First Takes Rise, Bidens Comeback, and the Coronavirus With Bryan Curtis and Jason Gay | The Bill Simmons Podcast

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The rewatch ables is going back to Monday nights because we wrapped up book a basketball for season one and we are coming back on Monday night. And we'll be on Mondays for at least the next couple of months. So that's all happening coming up the sports reporters. I are friends from project. All right. We're taping this at one thirty on Thursday afternoon. Pacific time the sports reporters are back. Bryan Curtis here in Studio Jason. Gave from the Wall Street Journal is in Brooklyn wearing a hazmat suit. And we're going to talk about a whole bunch of Media topics relating to sports monthly. I wanted to start here. Bryan. Curtis you love trades. I do when there's media traits. That really gets your attention when ESPN EMBASSY REVISITING. An old media trade. That already happened. That gets your attention than Al Michaels. The greatest football boy small-time might be in play. What kind of draft picks can mb CD get you think? I didn't realize I was being moved to the woods. Beat a sports media was kind of this little quiet little corner yeah yeah and this is like the NBA trade deadline. Yeah Yeah and this is as you point out so that the story in the post is it. Al Michaels might be traded from NBC TO ESPN. Yes and he was already traded background. Two thousand five from ESPN TO NBC. I some draft picks and Oswald the lucky rabbit and I have draft compensation down the road some obscure Disney characters to be named later. Yeah this is an incredible story. Yeah Jason Gay. What were your immediate thoughts? And then I'll give you my well. I mean it seems to me. Isn't it sort of part of this? Big Mating dance that is happening amongst the networks now like every one of these networks currently has nfl rights feels that needs to puff out its feathers and preen and dance around like some bird of paradise. Cbs With Tony. Romo deal. What is it ten years one hundred eighty million dollars. Yeah all that is. That's showing love. That is showing field he to the NFL. It's a way of showing. We're very serious about this. My favorite part of his. I really hope they get the NFL deal at CBS. Because if you very weird to give Tony Romo eighteen million dollars a year do the Big Three and the PGA Championship. So this seems to be what this is courtship. I heard that he. There's like an extra year maybe even two extra years that if they lose football and they don't get it he's still getting paid sure so it's like a five year guarantee but they might not have for three years so I will give my Al Michaels theory in a second on why this is happening. We learn this over and over again where these networks think. They have to do these things to win the league over these Luo. We did this when we have the best. If they WANNA give us a super bowl we got improve our nounce teamer. We might not be able to convince him. Brian is in this always about. Hey what was the highest dollar figure? Is there any other reason that the NFL would do anything other than they offered us? More than these people. One million percent or one billion percent so where are these people are falling over themselves trying to improve their Nazi teams? So the way it was explained to me by people who were. Let us say observing the Tony. Romo deal closely was okay. L. Four Networks. So That's ABC or ESPN ABC NBC Fox. Cbs ARE COMING TO THE NFL. And trying to give them a bunch of money in the next couple of months and they want at least a super bowl every three or four years as part of that right and you're not. GonNa get a super bowl because you have al Michaels who Tony Romo but you want to have all your ducks in a row when you walk into that room you don't want to have the NFL GonNa who's GonNa Announce the Games again you know. What is it that Booger Guy? Yeah back yeah I mean I and I don't know how much the NFL actually cares about announcing I'm GONNA say zero. I think it's I think it's a little above your but it's close to zero. Yeah as long as it's not terrible as long as it doesn't insult the NFL right or only test case of knowing that somebody cared was David Stern with ABC when they moved the red stay BC and Brad. Nessler did the first season when it was the spurs nets finals and by all accounts. Stern was like what the fuck is broadcast. He's guys are terrible. Can you get some real announcers? And that led to the Doc rivers Al Michaels combat. Yeah I would say though that maybe Sean McDonough Jon gruden bagging on the refs on Monday night. Football which they kind of did a lot. I think they got the League's attention. So that's part of it. Maybe it's not a name thing Jason. It's more of A. We're giving you this really expertly crafted race car. We want to make sure the driver doesn't hit any of the walls sure. And there's also the internal politics of it right it's like signaling to your company that you are deeply serious about staying in the NFL business. I mean Brian's right there's not a ton of evidence that individual announcers like matter to the NFL. Or even move the needle you know. You have your favorite announcers but the truth is what moves. The needle. Ratings is the matchup period. You saw that with the way that they upgraded Thursday football what moved over to Fox and conversely. You saw what happened when they left crumbs for Monday night. Football and to me. What makes the Michaels Peyton manning thing and it's crazy to talk about this? But but what makes it intriguing? It really clearly signals at Disney wants to upgrade. You know they want You know they've been having these leftovers for awhile now and you know whether it's moving games to ABC which has been talked about Or more playoff games perhaps super bowl or something else they want to move up a notch. Here you don't get Al Michaels and Peyton manning to call jets bengals. You know you just don't and with Romo is pink and say what they want now but they were all in on trying to get Tony. Romo Wong absolute end as like no you. I think their problem is you can only get to a certain number before the other stars you have or like. Hey what about me? You just did this for me now. He's getting that and there's a tipping point I think whereas was CBS. There's no tipping point who had. Cbs is going to be mad. That Tony Romo got that Dan rather than call you know. Hey where's my bump was. I was thinking like the guy the lead in blue bloods. I don't even know it. Cbs Shows Exist Young Sheldon CBS. Let Me Take my dad and see what courtesy we Brian. Isn't it true that the Tony Romo money is effectively the SEC? I mean there is a fan base. That might have reason to be like ha well. I guess that's why the SEC football is not going to be on CBS anymore. Were packaging the NFL at a much higher level or the it was because they lost the sec that they were like. Well I don't think they WANNA lose the SEC. Ever I think he is paying very shrewdly stepped out as one of the better rights deals moves. They made yes on Saturday. What's what matters the SEC game of the week now. I think I think bill's right and you're right Tony Romo to ESPN would have been one of the great talent office headaches of all time. Yeah Miss Stephen. A. Just signed very explicitly to be the highest paid talent at ESPN. And what happens when Romo got one hundred fifty percent of what he made and he's in he's signed like a day ago. And what about Kirk Herbstreet? Who's you know big colleges you know? Maybe I'm not the full Roma but aren't I like a third of a Romo Tavora? David Jacoby just got promoted to four PM. You gotTa Take Care. Take care of them. They just got so many announcers. There would have been an absolute headache for Jimmy Petar. I do think I battle both ways in this. I don't think it matters to the NFL. Who the announcers are ninety nine percent? I think there is that one percent where they had somebody who shitting on the League or shitting on the refs that they're gonNa care other than that. I don't think Roger Goodell cared one iota that Joe Torre Burger were very good last year But I do think if it's the right announcer it really does enhance the game. Like I enjoyed Joe Buck last year. I'm not a huge Aikman guy but when Joe Buck announces a football game I feel better about watching the game. I really enjoyed Nansen Romo and then it would go to Monday night and it was like the sucks. I wish I had better than answers. So it is one of those things you almost notice it more when you don't have it. I think this feeling of control. Isn't it integrate announcer? I'm in good hands Jerry. You feel right now with the announcers because you know that Mark Jones and you be Brown on a Saturday night on. Abc for whatever reason we just don't have enough play by play analyst people. Meanwhile every year. Somebody's retiring. Why isn't Dwayne Wade on the Saturday night? Abc Game What's he doing? So I was going to bring this up. How is the pool this small of available people that you want? I mean al. Michaels was giant starring television. When I was a kid yeah. I'm not young. He did the. Do you believe America's Yes game and wasn't in his twenties bill and I were young. Yeah Al Michaels was a giant Star Network television and now were warriors later and in. Espn says this is the only possible. Answer Jason How? Many play by play guys. Are there right now that you go oh cool. This guy is announcing for me. You know. There's a handful and I put michaels in that group. I was here I would slightly. And maybe at the top of the group candidly I would disagree slightly with Brian about like the dollars being the ultimate thing because I do feel like we have these. You know. All these rights packages are coming out. There's a collective bargaining agreement negotiation with the NFL. Which is all interwoven. With all this stuff but I do feel like you know. F L ownership. These are older people. Legacy brands still means something to them and it were. I don't know Amazon to come with with an offer which was vastly superior to any of the sort of traditional networks. I think they would think long and hard about taking the top top dollar I really do. I think that they still are traditionalist. In that regard and so when you tell a bunch of seventy five year old owners Al Michaels is coming in. They don't look at it and saying like Oh residual like vapors of old Al Michaels legacy. No they're like Oh al Michaels great huge star and I think that's probably the salary part of this too. Which is that the way to look at this like not media. It's like getting movie stars. It's like you know somebody put above the line. Yeah that's true except you watched the movie because the movie star and at least partly I think Jason's point is exactly right about the streaming companies. But I would say it's because of this. They want their shows on network television. Because everybody can watch it. I don't pass part of its. Yeah then part of it said attachment network. Tv Hey it's CB the NFL on CBS. That feels old school. But it's also when we're having a conversation about how the NBA may be in obscurity. Because they're on cable right. Imagine if the game was on Amazon you know there's a whole generation people to build what it will. How do I get that again and I think like if you look the whole the TV networks right now? This is an existential problem for them. We either have the NFL or we don't exist yet. That is the that is the thing so they are going to be absolutely be able to squeeze them for so much money and if there's a seventeenth week and there's two extra playoff games here even more money. Well and the other thing is I just think matters way more to the networks in the streaming. Now you can have an Amazon. Just do the Mike Bloomberg Bill. Ham spending five hundred million month and I don't really care about the consequences but when you look at the ratings which I know nobody loves ratings Bryan Curtis along just obsessed with the next hard though the fourteen day on the overnights You love it but it is look at. What were the top fifty rated broadcast this year? And it's all football and it's because it's alive sport You need to watch it in the moment for nine hundred billion different reasons and then they could promote all the shit. They're in the game. They have no other way to do that. Except unless it's like I don't know though we don't even really have shows that. Have the apparatus anymore because dancing with the stars and whether who wants to be millionaire massingir even that as in reliable is just like an old school round to NFC playoff game packers cowboys US reaching the most people with that and I think the other effect that has on the announcers when you and I were kids the faces of the network on CBS. Were Dan rather the guys on sixty minutes? Mike Wallace and then PAT summerall John Men. Nobody cares about network news anymore and Musburger I would throw it. Okay so throwing Brent. Nobody cares about network news anymore. Now who are the faces of CBS? Jim Nansen Tony Romo. Yeah that's it. So they even have a bigger and young Sheldon Right. John Young Sheldon. If that's in fact on medium shelter video meter maid showed them but that makes them worth more rate in if not in dollars than in some sort of value right because the network. I still is yet to be explained to me. Ym Amazon or whoever would blow anyone else out of the water. I like the game of the week type of thing would fox is and what the Monday night football or whatever air why would they? Why would they would seem like the higher upside would be the season ticket or the Lee Lee passed an MBA season ticket for football The ability to have a lot of content all at once and navigate on some platform because as we discussed a million times. That's how people under twenty five. You know that's how they watch stuff like South Park a couple months ago so their entire library to HBO. Max for five hundred million dollars is amazing deal and an amazing tribute to those guys that eight nine years ago. They get the library. They're basically like deciding whether they want to do more shows. Commerce woke me off for you. You know we don't have a ton of money and those guys were like give the library in comedy central's again cool take it and then eight years later. It's a bidding war for this librarian. It's on there. My point is my son doesn't watch South Park on comedy central. He watched on Hulu. And now it's gone. Hbo Max He's GonNa Watch on HBO. Max and it's all these episodes in a row and that's how he's GonNa consume it. He's not going to the network. Football is the last thing that people are actually really had to go to the networks for. I think if it was Monday night. Football on Amazon. That'd be weird. I don't think they would lose people like my dad. I don't think my dad go to Amazon Watch. I don't I think it is as tactile as giving a remote to a seventy eight year old owner asking him to find versus ABC. And that makes sense. Obviously you know doing it the same old same away but the other part of it I think for a streaming services. It's just doesn't have the kind of like halo impact that it had on a network television. I mean like you know Amazon. You're not gonNA stop using Amazon because they lost Monday night football. You know that that's not gonNA make you more likely to use Netflix. It's sure maybe it make me slightly more to use net flicks but it just. It doesn't have the same it doesn't lay on the same hit but I do think that eventually all this stuff becomes available enough. We've learned the value of sports. Is that you know. It's it's a rationed entity in these contracts very seldom come up and the people who have them know how valuable they are and often preemptively bid. So I think anybody who's in digital video business has to look seriously at it when it comes up the the other thing with the ratings and the numbers. It's just a fact. Some people don't have cable stuff especially in poor neighborhoods or cities or whatever and there are people that still have the rabbit TV and things like that and I do think the NFL owners specifically they love the narrative like courageous in the top. Fifty Games. See we had forty seven of them see. We had forty eight. The biggest audiences see that super bowl so the biggest. They still care about that. They're not that to them. As a selling point of how well football is doing in the perception that football is not dying. And it's not in trouble and it's actually still as dominant as it's ever been and they need kind of ratings to two point two and go look at see once again absolutely and it's in by the way. Why wouldn't you want as many people as humanly possible watching your games and it is funny to sit here and twenty twenty and we're talking about CBS. Sports yeah talking about Brent Musburger. Cbs is the same thing. But it is still alive in that sense and way more alive than the rest of the network or Ano- or somebody like Al Michaels who literally came of age under Roone Arledge when like it was a completely different era of wild spending and King of the world mentality and sports media and that he can straddle that era with this kind of. I don't want to see the pants but much more nimble budget-conscious world is kind of amazing and audiences. You're getting older people are living longer. I don't know if you guys know this right. Now we're trying to elect a president filed this at all. I saw a three candidates are seventy three. Seventy seven seventy eight This is why football will remain on network. Tv We've aging country. Yes I'd like to include myself in that. Here's Mayo makers theoretic Jason. Yeah this is what I think this is really about. Where did he start his career well? Cbs But be flourish tables ABC sports nineteen seventy five seventy six with Howard little later little later. Guess no he did. Wendy do Monday baseball. Seventy six I think definitely eight. I WanNa it's later than that. Seventy nine yeah all right so forty years ago then he has Olympics then he just hits his wide world of sports he hits all the check marks so he's got one last contract left they hired make the Ricco for years ago. Who kind of like. Hey we now michaels retires is GONNA be your job. That's always weird. Hey Kyle three years from now. I've hired replacement out. He's GonNa he's GonNa go sit over there and that next office and every time you walk. It'd be awkward and right now we're just kind of have them stashed in the halftime show and But eventually he'll take your job and I think at some point you look at that Neo. You know what it did. The symmetry of me finishing my career on Monday night football where I became super duper famous. And this is how it should end. I understand the nostalgia factor. You don't like the state. I thought you'd like this theory more but don't we remember what Al Michaels thinks of. Espn when he was ungracious. -Ly almost shoved out the door in two thousand five or whenever that was That was like three. Espn administrations in one schedule. Go through but that has administration looked at their talinn producers and said well. We have this team of Mike. Patrick Joe Theismann Palm Aguire and we think that team is about as good as Al Michaels and John Madden. Oh my God. One of the craziest decision. You know who didn't feel ready. Yeah me neither. That was one of my least favorite teams ever Freddie. Adelie and dress up. We think you're just as good as the other guy i. It was one of the most insane things ever. And it's an AL's book breaking me confidence. Your hours pissed. Yeah hurt and so for him to forgive an understand these are different executives. And everything's changed that stuff but wow al back to. Espn would be incredible USO. Have He's got Alex? Wallow is one of his closest friends. Eiger is a good friend. Heads sure ultimately you know Agar's on his way out at some point too and I'm shared the symmetry this where do you think of this whole theory Jason? Well do you buy that? This is somehow going to be a package deal. You mentioned Freddie Deli. I mean like he's kind of the you know the hidden hand of all this like does he made it higher producer right the heaven yeah. It's not a done deal. This is something that's been theorized and that I think other part of the theory is that you gotta get them both. It's Cohen Paul. George like you gotta get one to get the other give seven first round picks and buy or sell exander. Homebush others suffered. Yeah I mean but but the but the other shoe of that I don't know if that's the proper metaphor but like you're not bringing these guys in to have them do crappy Monday night football game. So what are they? What are they have in store? In addition to the Monday night football gonNA continue ban. Espn WITH ABC. I mean there's no question even bad Monday night football on. Abc is an upgrade from whatever's on Monday nights on ABC. No offense to whatever's on Monday nights on ABC. But I would just assume when you're just getting that kind of talent grab that you have a bigger plan. I don't know is that even then you're GONNA do a couple of years of crappy. Monday night football. Abc So as AL GOING TO GIVE UP. The number. One Show in television was football. I wonder yeah and go into this. You know it's not obscurity but it's but it's a lesser it's a lesser perch That would seem weird. What if it was Monday night football on ABC though saint but the Games are going to change for a you could argue the Gainesville? Get better because they're being a network. Tv versus when they make the schedule would just kick it up a little bit. Yeah maybe I think I think I made this case and talking to Ben Thompson. A couple of weeks ago this podcast. I think more live. Sports should be on network from. Abc You look at what they have on ABC on Wednesday nights it's like the goldbergs. And all those shows and leg would put put NBA on Winston Eh gets same rating. So I'm all for that too. And that makes the Tennyson success. You WANNA squeeze every dollar out of this cable model while you still have it so you can't take the biggest things off. Espn and put him on ABC. Or you're already shrinking cable models GONNA shrink a lot faster. I was so whereas. Sec FOOTBALL GONNA go. That's a good question that's probably ABC. Right yeah but you got began. That's like a lot you could. You could do multiple games and you could do different places. Yeah I was talking about like their biggest game in the week. If it's like Alabama Auburn. They're showing that at ABC. But if you Jimmy Petar right you like don't we? Yeah we WANNA play as one larger Disney Corporation. I think that's probably happening more now than it did with skipper right this coordination between the two but at the same time. You're like we gotta keep this business going as long as we chan because we're not ready for ESPN plus to be the world right. We're not ready for ABC to be the world. We gotTA keep this business. Intact reminds me of the newspaper business. Now you still like a dollar to be made from people who are loyalist who had means of media communication and. I think that you're right that you can't just say like flip a switch and say okay. We're going digital. Only these things still do have value the mistake mistaken. My Book I think is what you start to like. Throw things all over the channel which is like the insanity that baseball. Does you know what I'm trying to find games in there and I don't know the TBS TNT there any number of places. Plus he's a baseball game will be even March madness. I find that kind of ridiculous. The baseball playoffs thing is unbelievable. Like I'm a relatively smart guy and I like literally cannot find a Red Sox game at eight o'clock at night and which one of my nine choices of channels yes came on whereas the NBA. You kinda just you have the habit you it's either going to be on. Espn or TNT. You know maybe NBA TV. But it's one of three places NAM. It's like the year the NHL The Stanley Cup finals versus remember that is or like do. I get that somewhere on the dial. I remember getting really mad one year when I was on the road traveling for playoffs and I had I was in a hotel room that had like sixty channels versus was one of them and I was like neutral if here league is showing its finals on a channel. I don't get and sixty channels on a hotel TV. You did a bad job bad job. Yeah but at least they figured that out that at least has to go on embassy now so Let's take a quick break. We have a lot more talk about. Hey today's business challenges are bigger and more complex than ever for every company progress. Just can't wait. Thankfully helping to accelerate progress in Google clouds DNA. Google cloud lives for the opportunity to help customers. Think through all the different ways to overcome obstacles to make breakthroughs to use technology to create outcomes that matter. 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There's a buzz at home. That's crazy blah blah blah. It's like what do we care what? Cbs gives Tony Romo. Why would anybody care? I have never been offended by that. No and I also think it just means that. Cbs is going to give a ton of money to the NFL. Yeah they're all in which is going to benefit everybody because you as we mentioned earlier they lost sac. And now if you lose football. Nfl football now. Would he do your show golf and March madness? Do I think it's a crazy figure for sportscaster for all the reasons we've allen sure but you know it's television right? I don't want to people just look at an Ebay auction to people are going at it with five minutes to go. That's it right to go up right. Timing is everything I think. Part of what made it such a ripple was that you could actually Kinda look at it like remember those old friends salaries when friends was at its you know earnings peak and it was like a million dollars an episode of whatever. It was like you know. Romo's making effectively a million bucks a game which you know POPs out at you. I think the most interesting reactions have been from players. You saw like Odell Beckham and a number of NFL players. Who are like. That's interesting. Yeah I would like to know more about this. Because the presumption has been Certainly in the last half generation that the stars are so well compensated that they're probably going to be less likely to walk into a booth because they don't need it as much anymore. But you know it's awfully hard to turn your back on fifteen million bucks my favorite fact ever and I've repeated this when John Madden sign his huge deal which used to be the highest per season back in nineteen ninety-three. She was paid more than every player in the NFL. Yeah wow you every player I was worth. He's very born the every quarterback that'd be like Romo stunning with CBS. For forty million dollars a year. Right now I know you WanNa talk about the for next couple of hours but please one you will not see is. Cbs's Tony Romo Okay. We're GONNA do that seventeenth game. So here's two hundred fifty thousand dollars with raise favorite cap that To fifty. I thought it was thought of made a ton of sense for them. 'cause the the other thing is you look at it. What's playing be all right? He leaves Sanal promote Nate Burleson. I like April sent but Jim Nansen neighbor. Also no are they going to be good together or you go and you get Phil Rivers. I just WANNA go on the record and a half before I've talked about this on a podcast previously some repeating myself but I think Phil rivers is going to be really good. You're all in on this. Yeah I study if you really gonNA like. Who'S GOING TO BE GETTING A game? What are the qualities you need? You can learn all of it from the post game interviews and how candid. They are whether they're making fun of the reporters whether they're quick on their feet. You can see all of it. Those why the Barclay was the no brainer selection of all time that he was going to be good at being on TV because he was the best in the league. For fifteen years I think Phil rivers has a chance to be really really good my question for him as why would he stop playing? I know he had an off year last year but I certainly feels like she can play five more years. Yeah two more years. Yeah I mean I'm just saying like the. He's I think thirty five and pretty much every quarterback put. It's still forty now unless they get hurt. But you know if it was Al Michaels and fill rivers at. That would be a pretty good outcome to the one the one. I don't really get drew. Brees I don't I don't see him being. I see him playing too safe and being a little flat what do you think? Am Jason Drew. Brees as an answer. Yes like your number one answer right. He's awfully polite and says the right things. Usually I can't imagine that he would be some sort of like you know Barclay Type Truth Teller Announce it now. I don't see it either. I mean the though is like are we certain Peyton Manning's going to be great in the booth a we just one hundred. I mean I there's this presumption that he's going to be fantastic. Are we sure? I don't know we're sure. He does have this celebrity. That very few. Nfl guys have huge. The moment he's on like. Oh that Peyton manning you're hanging on every word you just you just more interested in him. Here's why it's not gonNA happen. I don't think I just don't think he would take less money than Tony. Romo I just don't. He was much better quarterback. He's going to be like okay. I'll hey can I get two-thirds with Tony Romo? God fuck that. Pay Me one dollar more than Tony. Romo and I'll do it for the plank. That's the price now. I saw the price in seventeen million dollars. So if you want me to come in and save your your show seventeen million dollars seventy million dollars in one penny didn't CBS. We should you know. There's a lot of this reporting. Is Andrew Marshawn of the post? Who's been breaking stories? But I think that. Cbs went to Manning amid the remote conversation and said hey well house twelve to fifteen or some figure around their sound as a hedge against Roma going to ESPN and then manning you know now evolving into this ESPN discussion. He started this X. factor it's like the Brady conversation in the NFL would playing. It's like wherever manning lands has got to kind of set the whole track of who goes where this is like the old theory of announcers but Tony Romo had everything to prove in the announced. Put everything he didn't do as a player he could do as an announcer. Philip rivers will almost certainly listen crazy. The next couple of years had the same thing. He's got this. Here's what I can do Chris Collins Worth Right. Here's what I can do the other thing. Peyton Manning Peyton manning did it. Yeah and it's going to take a lot to really make him lock in and say. I want to be the best announcer I can be well from by all accounts he does everything full speed. He's all in if he's donated even like the stuff he's dumfries. Plastic has been definitely not mail-in by him. You know think because year after year. It's tough but here's the thing it's the greatest part time job in the world. What Romo pulled off getting private jet on top of everything else. We are flying in on a Saturday morning. And you're flying out on a Sunday night. You're working one and a half days and you're done in your in your back home by Sunday night at. I don't know nine o'clock and you're making an incredible amount of money. I few PEYTON manning and he can make fifteen million dollars in that. And it's like just a Monday night. Football's even better. You're leaving on a Sunday. Stay Sunday night. He could leave right after the game on Monday night at home. Whenever I don't know that's a lot of money it is but everybody keeps trying. The Fox tried for Thursday night. We forget that. Do you think he expansion just challenges manhood like we keep trying to hire peyton manning. Obviously he's scared something seizes. Maybe he just knows he. Maybe won't be as good as Romo. They should float that out brady rumor. Ooh Brady NYPD. Chance AS SOMEBODY. Who's listened to a lot of his Westwood one interviews with Jim Gray over the Air Brady Brady would be tough all right? Wh- what's what's audible to I take as a TV show that used to be derided and was the number one thing people would point to as this is the worst of sports. Talk all that stuff too. In Two thousand twenty newsmaker really extremely relevant show. Probably the sports show that breaks the most news and if you go through like the championship belt of breaking news you go to like the seventies while wrote a sports. The most things happen there. That's where Russell would go bill. Russell would go. That's where Ali and frazier would go and just shit happened on. Why wrote a sports? And then that Kinda shifted to nfl today with Brenten those guys and that became kind of a signature thing it all the way through to you know most recently. Now what is it? Was the championship belt holder. I can't believe I'm saying this but I think it's I take. It's once every two to three weeks all of a sudden it's trending for three hours because somebody went on there and shit happened. Am I wrong? I never would have put it in the same sense as wide world of Sports L. But yeah I I think you might be right and I think that's part of the the the the way Stephen has vaulted over all those people who are inclined to hate Steven. Yeah which is our a piece. Ringer called strange new respect for Stephen a Smith Because we all Kinda. I think collectively do have that now. That part of it was that he still had kind of a guy who knows stuff part of him right. He wasn't just opinion guy he had a stake in the league. Had A hand in Italy like players were paying attention to him magic when he had his bizarre resignation from the Lakers. I'm going to go talk to Stephen. It that's the next thing I think. That's a big part of his part of his draw. Right as it is not just a goes bloviating but who kind of knows stuff. And it's kind of plugged in at some level and he bought into the whole or not bought into it but he's bought the I think trust of people in this respect that he calls it like it is and he doesn't doesn't quote unquote play the favorites. And it's like this is. I'm just going to go now. He does have a lot of just mentioned Magic Johnson but the thing is he does have favorites that it does have the Magic Johnson. He and he does do as much favor. Trading is probably a lot of other people. You play magic over Baxter homes. His Co worker. It was bad the sense from the public though is that he calls it like it is and I think the NBA players. When he calls them out they take it really seriously. Yeah and if he says like Kevin Durant he was a coward for not going in the next like if you said that on our show. Katie would go at him on twitter immediately. 'cause you'd feel like. I have to defend myself. Stephen came at me. It's the only person in sports media that has that whatever that is Jason. I mean I don't know if I would go as far to call like I take breaking show but you know it's I think it's more like it's like sports like festivus right where like high profile people like. Spike Lee can go on and air their grievances and then watch it ripple through social media for the rest of the afternoon you know. It's sort of like the central nervous system of sports media right now right and then you have Stephen. What's ironic about this is? It's sort of Stephen a sharing the stage a little bit. It's not just even a going off about a topic. It's him giving a platform to somebody. Who's agreed to go on and talk and when people go on Stephen they kind of feel like they have to match the agitated energy and I think like if you watch the Spike Lee Thing. He was doing it with a little bit of a glimmer in his eye. Because you know he he had to know what he was doing was really gonNA stick in the Knicks crop and I personally enjoyed all that very very much and it felt like must see tv even though I didn't watch it on TV. And I watched it on any number of so. It's on social media but if you're spike in ten years ago you go on ego on Mike and the dog and that's how you do that cracked In Two thousand twenty you going I take and you call up. Whoever I WANNA come on and talk about this and first Texas great it also ties into where we are in social media. Two Thousand Twenty where? He's on coupes immediately on on twitter and wherever else blog posts are being crafted. Immediately people responding. They've changed trending thing on twitter spike. Lee's trending you're like why Spike Lee trending and then it's like and then boom minutes an eight and then all the shows are like earlier today and he. Spn ON I take spike. Lee said this boom ran the clip. Here's my take on. I can yes. It just goes. My brain has been routed over the last several weeks by watching way too much. Cable News So this may be the wrong cop but I think what sports. Tv has tried to replicate weirdly. Enough is morning Joe. Yeah for Sports. They tried it with get up and get up is better now but it's still not a show where news happens. I don't think you think of it quite that way. Still now. It's more entertaining but the thing about morning joe is like. Oh somebody's GonNa come on here in endorsed Joe Biden on the show yes. Somebody's going to drop out of the race or win a big primary and they'll be on our air tomorrow. This is where things happen. Range and sports has groped around for that for the last couple years. Yeah Weird and I don't know that we would have thought I take would turn into that show. I would say the odds one hundred to one eight years ago. Yeah someday this will shout but again it's become more of a salon. I think when it was two guys yelling back and forth at each other. It was a very different kind of organism. And now what you have and there was like the Steven Stout that was gotta it was that got upwards. I take when Stephen Style is I take I take. So you know these people come on and there and you got to kind of give credit to the producers to because they're just kind of letting it rip which you know television a lot of segments are very very very very produced and you know you kind of know exactly what everyone's GonNa say it every time and that's clearly not the case when Steve Stoute is on the air And I like that but I don't think that it's the kind of thing where people are just GonNa be. You know imitating it because again stephen as Kinda sweet generous. It's also a great time. Slot it. I'm on West Coast time. I wake up in the morning. Make Coffee Gone three miles. I put it on one of the things I really like about that show. Is this celebrity interviews so full disclosure. Like I wanted to come on the podcast. The way back I. He probably still has. Ptsd from our h together. Speaking a newsmaker didn't hit not take up the offer he went on a I take it. I just happened to be watching. And it was kind of riveting because he comes on and he talks about the way back why he did it and Stephen as like. Tell us about your performance in doing like asking movie questions. I'd like this is great and then Stephen as and then affects basically like wait. What I WANNA talk about Tom. Brady 'cause you see these celebrities. Go on and they're more excited to beyond than Steven A. And Max are to have them because they're like. Oh here's by seven minutes. I get to talk Sports Steven A. And so he goes right at Max about all MAX's. Tom Brady stuff and now. They're in like the sports part thing. I'm like this. This is working guys some watching every minute of this. I'm joined this so I don't know how they flip the script. But they did it and I can't believe I take. Yeah here. We are right. Jason Jason passed out. I mean listen. I think that like you know Stephen as brilliant as sort of being a man for his moment right you know it's like she has this disposition which he has had forever but it is now just so perfectly situated for the moment that we live in now where it's outrage and even performance of outrage that moves the needle and I think that's part of also the perform and this is what sort of I don't know makes Stephen a more likable. You know I think I don't want to live in a world where like Steven A. Is Genuinely pissed off about things five times a day. I want to have a little bit of theater to it and I'm just curious. Brian do you think that people when they go on the show like in the same way like everyone kind of sits up straight in their chair? When they're on Sunday morning television that people feel that they have to match the energy of. You can't go on. I can be boring. Can't go on I taken just be like down the middle kind of have to have a take. Yeah Having Seen Michael. Irvin appear that show several times which is point if I take my cat. Michael Irvin versus Stephen A. B. Left on the field superheroes battling and top of a building. The Jason hit on something really important. The idea that Steven A. is in on his own joke yet is in on it. Just enough right never going to admit it but we kind of sense that he knows what's going on here. You know that that helps. I think that sports debate show be a little more palatable that you can deal with it every day and not just get turned off by and then all right so high noon gets canceled. What two weeks ago and predictable reaction in certain circles and social media and one of the common refrains was. Oh great you you all the Carnival barkers get rewarded and. Here's a show that tried to do smart sports talk and and it got and they get rid of that one and I'm thinking like is this a straw man argument like what. Espn shows are doing like sports porn. Basically sports outrage corner sports like I actually feel like the network. I don't mean to sound like an ESPN defender. But I think they've moved away from that a lot. I they they moved more toward you know Games and highlights and then I certainly don't think. Pt I is like people screaming at each other around the horns. Probably the closest. But that's a show that's been in on. Its own joke for a long time. Lebatardshow is just weird. Going down the list. It's like who are these people pointing to saying? Why do you? Why do you have carnival barkers on and then this smart so really? They're talking about I take and I don't feel like I take is like that again not to sound like a total I take defender but I. I think there's more going on than the rep that had had when bayless was on years and years ago where it was just two guys trying to provoke each other and say crazy things. Basically it's evolved way past that I think that's a knee jerk. Take that's just been around for a really long time. And the fact that people were saying it when Djamil and Michael were on the air and all these other people at Espn who who may lights were on the air. And I I agree with you. I think that's become a much smaller part of the ESPN universe in the last decade. Yeah it's basically just I to get up nothing like that and to me. It's more about the grammar of TV. Shows that work right? There's a certain grammar 'cause Mike and Tony Work on. Pti nobody says there. You Know Bad Sports. Talk Right we think. Oh that's funny. It's tongue in cheek. They kinda get it right. They're doing a parody of a debate. You a little bit but it's just the grammar of. Here's the issue we discuss next issue. We keep it light. We keep it quick the next issue to me. That's just what works on television and they also have a real healthy respect for each other genuine chemistry and make fun of each other and the feeling of that show and the reason it works. The reason it's so hard for people to go into and do it with them is. It's two buddies talking about the issues today and busting each other's balls and that was something I never felt like noon was able to achieve. It was high noon. If if if you're going to say all right what was the number one reason the show in work for you know whatever rating they wanted to get. The number one thing was just the time slot. You know where you have this really smart show targeted for people. That probably aren't watching sports. Tv At that time in the day. That's an issue but then the other thing is it felt to me a lot of times like they were just trading these monologues versus what. Pti has where wilpon will say something crazy. And then Tony's not like it's my turn to speak now. I'm just going to say my point. Tony will listen to them and go wait a second woman you what do you. And then know. And they'll throw the script away and they'll go for two three minutes off some tangent that wasn't even on the teleprompter. That's why that show works and I never felt like high noon a I think the more they did the show they probably would have gotten there but they never found that rhythm of you have these two people that we like individually. How do we make this a team where they really need each other? I feel like when I watch. Pti Anytime Wilbur. Or colonizers in there. I'm disappointed it's the fundamental I'm like Oh shit and it by the way and Cleveland. I'm disappointed I'm here on. That is the best possible option. Yeah it's a really hard thing to get to and Anyway I just wanted to compare against the standard would I of course and the other thing is you know. I like to think of high noon as a huge success. I myself was on a sports Television show which lasted about six months. So right at by comparison high noon is like banana seventy weeks. Two years just feels like an epic run but I mean I think the the the challenge for all these shows and I always wonder when there are these postmortems when a show gets canceled. Any John Reid. Who exactly is the audience at the given? Our like? Who ARE WATCHING. These shows are people who are you. Know saying it's the end of the world or saying that it's some sort of statement about where the culture is right now. Are they in fact the audience of the show? And by the way he did. There's a second piece of that is should that show being television 'cause IF I had the same thing with my show which the the flow of my show is that I can do all of this stuff I wanted. I WANNA have a smart conversation. Show about sports and other stuff. It's easier do that on a podcast. We're doing a radio in his higher. I have more time I can go and more directions on that trap to certain like time restraint sir. I don't have to take things day and a half in advance. Yeah podcasts are better and I think that's the thing with high noon. I think if they had made that as really gotten behind it as a five day week signature podcast that also ran on. Espn plus or whatever and really push the podcast part of it. I would have been interested to see what happened because it was a really smart show. Bill let me ask you this. Yeah you like to talk about like ultimate like sliding door moments. Yeah to show how you're HBO show worked had been hit or even a modest hit. Yeah that it would be on the air for not just to season but season after season still on the air today. Do you think that you would have doubled down on the same way that you had with podcast? Would you been in the position that you're in to be able to make the move at the company that you made no i? I think I think you at that point. You have to double down on all right. What do I have left? Let's make all this stuff work really. Well I think the issue for me is the once a week parachute in sport. Show cannot work and I found that out the hard way I think the only way that show could have worked and if I had to do it over if I was in a time machine and I was like how could I get this to work. It would have been once a month yet. Big guests he tape in advance. You tape the whatever. The first part is make a top goal. Everything else is banked. And it's cut and you do an hour long interview with somebody in new. Cut It little like how they do. The shop I guess where they take that advance maintained for three four hours. They get the best twenty minutes possible but like that's also a show that doesn't get ratings. It's it's the stuff that actually gets ratings. If you'RE GONNA do people talking about each other about sports is reacting rates at the moment. And that's why I take it's coming on and shits happening. It's like up Magic Johnson. Just quit the Lakers. He's on right now. Like that's always GonNa win over you know parachuting in I feel especially like with the. Hbo Thing When me talking about sports versus sports being on television I'm going against Baseball playoff games. Why would somebody watch my show you know and we try to create a show that would last for like two weeks. He could watch it anytime. But it's like all right well. That's pretty limited upside. You know I think the one thing bill. Maher show has been able to achieve is in the end. I think it's been brilliant house done. It is like Friday nights. Yup this is the one show you know paw politics cycle has the Sunday morning stuff right where it's like those two three hours meet the press the ABC show Here's where all the big people are gonNA come. That's I was watching on Sunday. They had every relevant person was on one of those shows at some point and then Marin Friday night kind of recapping the week and preview in the weekend and we with an obviously major liberal agenda I think for sports. I don't know what the version that would be. And we've certainly seen twenty thousand people try and nobody's done it. I knew this by the way in two thousand fifty. But you didn't really answer my question. Which is that had. The show worked at the show. You know you. It seems that when the show ended you kind of reevaluated. And you did this whole thing differently or you. You really doubled down on podcasting and like what I'm asking is how the show worked with the ringer. Not Be what it is currently depends on what the show ended up being. If it was monthly. I think we could have done everything we're doing now I assaulted restrictions when I was doing the TV show. I can only do one podcast the week so naturally with the show any as able to move to three which really helped the podcast but I think it was a monthly show with interviews and I could have kept a semblance of what the Pie all the other stuff I was doing. I think we I think it would have panned out and actually think this show would have been probably good for all this other stuff but bill as octopus arms. So I think it probably would've can I say one thing on problem on just generally f you at the hardest thing to do whether it's a TV show. Podcast is translate a real relationship you have with somebody into a show. Yes it is really hard you have. It was shoemaker. But I even even at the rare here I think of like the gold standard to me is like you and sal you in House. Russillo Moore And Chris and Andy. Yeah and all the rest of US. We have a great time. We're all working toward that. And it's not the word less. Were not real friends with the person but translating friendship into show is really fucking hard but the thing that we've found the if show works now for us it's mostly. Podcasts are almost entirely podcast. Tv shows same thing if the hosts have the connection it almost as a matter with the with the show is the host is always gonNA trump any awesome idea. You have I show we. I could create the greatest idea for you and some random person and if you didn't quick together since not going to work I agree but it still. There's still. There's still a hill. You have to climb there. Yeah just how do we take a millionaire? Paul money really generally friends and they are generally had these big conversations way before high noon but it was just the problem. How do we turn this into a thing? People want to watch. And maybe you're right. Maybe it was a podcast. It was a podcast. It would have been more natural in that setting where they could just go. I S I think they could have been more creative in a podcast because they have some topic ego for an hour and forty minutes and just you're flying versus like all right. We'll take a break coming up. We're talking about the Lakers. I don't know if that's what I want from those two guys up corona virus in sports. Who which is actually what we're GONNA do last thought Jason while I was curious to ask you like you know the other part of relationships as you sorta guest proof a show right. You don't make it reliant on getting the big ticket gassed. But I'm also curious to ask you when you get a big name. Nee Lister with a big product like how much does that move the neal if at all and I imagine there. Are you know regulars that you have like you know? Of course this will be one of the most highly. Listen to pods. I mean this is like the Super Bowl for me but I mean I is it. You know guest agnostic. The ratings honestly. It's it's it's the reactive stuff that probably does a little bit better short of There was one celebrity potted in the last year. That was I thought was going to do great and it was probably the worst one the worst listen to one over the last year and I was like Oh because should've just talked about the NBA for twenty minutes at the top of this Wait till after the show when you tell us which when that happened to say after. Let's we'll take a break and we'll come back and talk about the virus. Hey turn your dream or reality with squarespace they make it easier than ever to launch your passion project. Whether you're looking to start a new business showcase your work published content sell products and more squarespace. The tool for you. Beautiful templates created by world class designers. 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But we're supposed to call it. We've no idea that this is getting worse and worse. Talked about a little bit on Tuesday with Stephen Dubner Do either of you think there's a world in which there are empty. Nba Rina's two months from now for playoff games by the way was an award. Twitter joke After the Italy thing to say hey. The chargers actually figured this out last season was that was the thing. That's good It's hard to imagine getting to that point. We did have that one orioles game right when there was violence in Baltimore that was played bass. Bug Him Boy that would be really really weird. I somehow I can't imagine it but every day with this and with the way this is being handled you'd who knows right. Yeah early in Teheran Cagney in here. I think I think south by South West will be the first real test case for how many people actually went to this thing versus. We're supposed to go. We know it's out by year after year. It's absolutely jam packed with people this year. It might never. Did you go to the Super Bowl in Dallas? I do not so did you go Jason. I did YEP weird. Hail sporting event at ever been to 'cause they had hail and snow and most people couldn't land and yet it ended up being the the parties that everybody went to there was nobody there and in and it was. I think the most drunk I've ever been in my life on the Saturday before. Hand because hanging out with a group of people and they just had all this booze dead giveaway in every five minutes. Somebody's bringing us a fresh drink and double fisting shots. And and I think I had bronchitis for like three and a half weeks huddled under heat lamps but there is nobody there. It was the weirdest weekend I've ever spent anywhere where it's the super bowl and it's like the highways are emptied. The parties are empty. The hotels are half empty. And I don't know I from I've never seen anything threatened the sports and pop culture counter like this by the way. This is the dumbest part of this whole thing like there. There's so many more serious things to talk about. But just seen just this random thing. Start to upend things that were just used to where it's like you're south by South West early March march madness mid-march NBA play-offs Masters Bid April Kentucky. Derby may second usually a big fight basketball player see. Nhl Playoffs now. We're going to the finals in June. And this is the first time actor. Remember not knowing how this is going to play out. And it's just I think it's been an absolutely surreal. Last couple of weeks will and and a twist on it of course is that you know typically in tragedy. Sports has been this sanctuary. It's been totally for people to turn to. When terrible things have been happening in the world and this is an opposite type of situation where the events themselves might be part of the problem and obviously you know the reason to suspect that we might start. Seeing things here is that it's happened in every place where they've had significant outbreaks empty stadiums in Italy multiple cancellations in China empty stadiums in Japan. And now this whole question about you know not just significant events like March madness and masters and so on and so forth but you know a major limiting decision with regard to the Tokyo Olympics in July. That's the big one right. That's the one I think for instance the NBA. The American team of NBA players is supposed to go train in Shanghai And then go to Tokyo. They go to Shang I I. They train their get acclimated to the time zone difference and then fired Japan. Obviously I would say the odds of that happening in just that form is probably twenty five toll on you know whether they train here and just fly over and just play if they do it. Who's going to be the first NBA star? Who backed out. There's there's so many different subplots that directly affect how we follow this stuff and then it shows you like well who cares like ultimately there's way bigger things at stake. This is weird. This is what we do for a living. We're supposed to think about this stuff. All the time and is the first time I can remember just everything being on the board. We might not have an Olympics. We met had not have the euros we met had the NBA Finals. Being played an empty buildings. I don't how much of this do you think is real in how much this is. The panic had talked about a little bit with Stephen Dubner on Tuesday that this painting culture that we have now where stuff can just get inflamed so fast on social media and people default to the worst case scenarios while in this case the worst case scenarios are actually realistic scary scenarios. I think the scary part is the the answer is we don't know right. Yeah it's somewhere between it's somewhere between don't panic and panic and we don't quite understand yet so then we get into this weird zone. Where like I know you know and I know we've probably all been dealing with this with just travel and friends and family and all that stuff and you're just like were in this. We're in the zone right now. Yeah and and a key thing here also is that ultimately this is not going to be the call of leagues and teams and things like this. This is going to be you know governments and health organizations coming forward and saying. Please don't do this. Let's like just not have these like mass scale events. Seeing in Paris I think is banned anything over five thousand people Switzerland. It's like a thousand And it's not going to be some sort of thing where leagues preemptively. Maybe but I think that is likely going to be at the recommendation of the government and has said like you know none of us are in the position to make any kind of declarations about you know whether it will. I feel like this is one of these topics where we could do this. Seventy two hours from now and have a very different conversation because I think once things start happening. I'll happened quickly. Yeah like my dad was talking to this morning and he is saying is going to the Utah Celtics tomorrow night. And he's like do you think I should go and I was like yeah. He's like while I was thinking about it. You know would have some dude sitting behind me as a cough. It'd be thinking about that guy's cough you and your I won't have a good time and I could just stay home and watch it like that. I don't know if you to you know it's your call. I don't know what to tell you. That's the thing and on are very small and privilege scale right. It's all these little decisions we rate did taking the kids at Disneyland last weekend. My wife and I are looking at each other like. Is this the time to go on Rockin? Smuggler's run you know and we did and everything's fine. I think but it was. It's just strange. We had three people that were supposed to go the song conference in Boston this weekend. We'd we'd cancel it. It's like that worth. It would rather be safe than sorry. Why not and we don't know if this is going to get worse over the next few days it's very very very uneasy times in a whole bunch of different ways on top of it you have the election and all the stuff that's going on there and the most tumultuous I would say week long stretch. I can ever remember no democratic anything dating back to the first one. I remember barely as eighty. I don't think I was paying attention sex but and you have the the incredible Joe Biden comeback. Just incredible like talk about back from the dead so you have all that going on too. And it's just this has been a really strange year so far and it just feels like it's going to get weirder. Yes and more frightening. I thought we were headed to a long hot summer before any of the pandemic stuff. I thought the combination of this big election that is going to be highly pitched It's you know it already proven to be divisive within the Democratic Party. Then you have the whole general then you have the conventions. Then you have the Olympics And you know it's just it felt like it was going to be exhausting and now you add this other thing. I hope very much. Obviously that we have some sort of breakthrough here or you know. Climate change that allows the virus that died down but it just feels like we're not even capable of processing it all at once. I mean Brian You. Do you know the press box. You're talking immediately after the primaries and you can't do all of it at once it's just too big. It's just you know you don't see anyone talking about Biden and Bernie within the context corona virus because it just seems Glib to actually contextualized it. That way is just so seismic too much are we doing. Are we doing any election? Takes on this podcast. I'm ready to do that. I I wanNA hear your LEX. I WanNa take a break and then I wanNA talk about that. Let's take a break to talk about some of the stuff on the ringer podcast network which you can find all over the place but I would recommend the spotify APP. It's the wonderful place legit you know. It's great the spotify APP. You know it's funny about the spotify APP. Fifteen seconds fast forward or go behinds. You can change the speed. I like one point to speed for your podcasts. A little pep sounds like everyone satellite of coffee. Some of the PODCASTS. We've done this week I don't know if you know this but we love survivor here at the ringer. We're doing survivor. Recaps on ringer dish. 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We need to have dignity and does all this stuff and it was the first time in a while and look. I made a million by the jokes where I was actually inspired by a politician for five minutes and then it goes away and you change channels but I was like yeah. He's right. The country is divided the deal. This probably it's probably. That could be joe bided but he tapped into something with with his words. That haven't really seen in a while and and it made me you remember why we're sifting through this crap every day so sitting in the office like forty eight hours after that speech and I said if bill wrote about politics and saw that Joe Biden speech he would be making deer antler spray brand German platelet transfer jokes and then Mallory Ruben. Walk by she goes. Oh actually just make that joke in Hall Joe. House was saying how he wants to send Biden. Hgh INSTEAD OF CAMPAIGN MONEY SAFE. He can he might. He might have cheated. He might have crossed the line by taking some steroids. The physical. I don't know if I've seen a physical transformation like that. And it Kinda continued under his victory speech on Tuesday night too. It wasn't quite as yet more stammering and he was a little more Yeli. Dak Reimi the now but it but it but it still had a lot of Biden. He switched sly Fox uncle. Joe For angry Biden. You know for forceful by fighting for you. Bhai I didn't I was not a fan of on the only one on the stage. Who Dat Dat Dat by the COM? The only one that right I liked the our country is divided uncle. Joe I WANNA help heal this. It did it. Did sound like felt like he found his voice. Would you think Jason? Did you watch it on Saturday? You didn't like Biden like I'm the only one up here who has a print subscription to TV guide. I'm the only one appeared to have cable. I mean I mean you know. Reporters were all convinced. You we people are convinced that we have our biopsies but I think ultimately and it's been said many times they root for the story and you know. Biden's an incredibly attractive story in the respect that he was truly truly left for dead after Iowa New Hampshire and to win and to win in this sort of like not. Just you know the narrow escape but a wildly thumping decisive route in South Carolina. Really impressive Win On Tuesday. It excites the media because it turns everything on its head and and I think we live in a time where you know saying you don't know and saying there are you know shades of grey or it's complicated is not something that registers terribly. Well gets much attention on social media so people tend to be much more declarative and they say like the world doesn't want this or they don't want that and that's that and there was an awful lot of that in the weeks leading up to these primaries and I think for it to be spun upside down just you know it was. It was a naturally entertaining story and I and I do feel like with regard to like Joe as the candidate. It seems abundantly clear that people at least a significant portion of the Biden Vote is he will do you know. I don't know if they're motivated for Joe as you know the pure you know. Iteration of what? They're looking for in a presidential candidate as much as they are just like this is the person we need right now. Best chance to be trump. Yeah to Jason. Jason said two stories. The media loves to write not just the political media but all of US comeback story share. We were waiting for the for the Biden. Comeback Story could have been anybody but Biden was kind of the biggest comeback story on the table. But did you really think you're even GonNa get it Brian? I decided we're I honestly like closer. To senile than getting no democratic does show a numbers. You looked at them and you went. Oh you Kinda fell bad. Yeah I did not predict story number two and she making our love to joke about this. The old guys still got it. Yeah that's one of our favorites. And what was the Irishman Love? If not the old guys still got true kind of way too much guys. Got It for my taste by the way if the Irishman we love that story You know he had one more race left enemy at one more great film one more one more great game on the hardwood right. That he left it all out there I would say there is a third piece. Which was people being surprised that the quote unquote establishment could still have the juice to rally together. I think one of the reasons. Everybody was so freaked out though as for years. Is You have our political system on both sides in just complete chaos. And you have these debates that are turning into like Jeff Ross. Ross Ross Right. Like Warren's at their China convince as she's the best choice to be president and she's just attacking everyone else on the stage and it was like disarming to watch especially because I think I thought she was good candidate and I thought she had some good ideas and it's almost like boy. This is going to be a stretch this comparison. You knew who never wins the bachelor the one who is telling the bachelor or how terrible the other contestants are. That's never the one who gets picked. It's always the one who's just like I. I'm actually easy to hang out with a model out of drama of just a Nice Person Biden weirdly fitted to the that whole bachelor thing and that Saturday night speech he became the bachelor contest is like I don't care about the other contestants. I'm here I'm just here to heal the bachelor's about our relations Sobat us in our connection. I'm here for the right reasons. I mean I would. I loved Warren. Dishing IT OUT I. I found that very refreshing and and in many ways she is probably the best pure candidate. I've ever seen in you know I'm ninety seven years old I've seen it all and You know I found that you know her. You know I mean made Mike Bloomberg you know. Turn to noodles. That was. That's GONNA be her. Her positive legacy of this whole thing was yeah took out Bloomberg. Yeah but I kind of feel like an use him to you think this is still a little open ended with Joe and Bernie. That seems to be what you're applying bill. I don't think it's open ended. I obviously Joe is a major front runner in his. If you look at the gambling odds and stuff. He's a significant favor. I think the one thing we've learned in sixteen and twenty is that it takes forty eight hours to flip. The momentum goes so fast I mean the fact that Biden one Minnesota When Massachusetts spending eleven thousand hours they're never setting foot in the state amid the same state. That is the you think. You're better than Joe Biden. Can't come here you think you'd better than us. And he doesn't even go in Massachusetts and he wins the state at that point for me all bets off. I mean all bets have been since trump was plus five hundred two days for the election and when the president since trump won the republican nomination. Yeah which none of us. Nobody talk so I think it's it's so funny in Sports. There's this whole all. The nerds are against momentum. I disagree I think Menem existed. Sports obviously exists in politics and it can be forty eight hours. It can be one debate. And the thing with Bernie and Biden. Why think Bernie's actually a good bet right now is like five to one ten to one depending on where you are as it's one debate? Where Biden looks like a stammering super old guy who can't handle it and Bernie Lang into Bernie's one on one. I think Bernie could be really good and I think he could flip it in two hours. So that's why I don't think it's over well. My my Bloomberg lasted one debate. Right ten ten minutes of debate that SORTA seemed with starting to seem to certain people like a good idea the polls polls were going up and then it was stover so he added of them the the what. Spielberg did with the shark in jaws words. I discharge scary. You're not going to see it yet. But it's trust me. It's really replace of music. There's a thin and speaking of sliding doors. You know he got. He was only on the stage in Nevada because he got one poll on the final day of eligibility but that was a mistake the mistake for him as he never should have done debate. Just I'm not showing up. No you hang your forget you'll ever get a look at me. Hang around have the bloodbath until have nobody get enough delegates and then get to the convention and like couldn't have done it that way or Ohio. I Dunno point. You think he asked us. He has to go attack one of the boats to appear in public at least once New York though he could have waited so New York right. I mean the other part of this is that like like You know feels like the end of act one feels. There's a vibe of finality here right because all the other candidates have dropped out Tulsi. Gabbard is still in the race as well But you know we still have a lot of time left lots and lots and it sort of reminds me of like you never go to like the rental car place and they have like one rental car left and they wheel it around that. I go here it is. I'M GONNA drive that to California like yes you are and like. There's a lot of road to make up and a lot of sort of You know unforeseen circumstances and obviously a president who is placed by a different set of rules and I just feel like plays by different center. It's for Rita Stars et following young shells. But you know what I'm saying is that I just feel like we are really really in the in the early days here Still as much as everyone wants to make their big proclamation about what it means for America. I feel like this is going to get really wacky. The two subplots left are does Warren. Pledge Allegiance to one or the other Because if she pledges allegiance to buy it and I think that probably Kills Bernie. In less he can flip it in a debate in a significant way because then at him against the entire. Democrat Staff Schmidt then the second one is Obama. And I think he's been has didn't come in because you know Bernie's got really rabid fan base and he you know he's one of those one of those. May the best person win. You know he's wants to know in but he's not gonNA come out and say that when once Biden lock sit down Obama's gonNA come in hard behind him at and that's GonNa really help out and I think that's the best asset Biden has. What did we hear the other day? That Obama had not come out and see didn't come out and say anything but he had given this kind of wink to people around him. He has it got a little. You know. Okay now you can now. You can go support by. Do you think Obama. I feel like this is the biggest black mark on his legacy. Really The for this century is him that thinking enough about who is coming after him and had a shape the party and all that stuff where you know he should have been thinking about that and fifteen and sixteen and I always felt like allow that last year is about how do I leave the office shaping with the perception of what my eight years were like and not hey I gotta pass the baton here to somebody good it's almost like a co like what Bob Agar's doing right now leaving Disney. He's put real thought who he's passing the baton to because he wants Disney to keep succeeding. I don't feel like Obama did that. He was all in on Hillary. Is that my my my my memory here is that he was all in on Hillary and did not want Biden to run against Hillary. Yes he was like as the democratic quote unquote establishment was Right Hillary. Hillary is the candidate. When do you think he was all in on that? Though when it became clear she was GonNa Win for sooner than the Hell I think. Sooner there's part of this also that you know there's a long tradition of like sitting presidents and even ex-presidents they're supposed to keep a respectful distance especially from the early primary machinations in that like for Obama to pronounce his support. One candidate for nearly days. Just that this was not the way that he wanted to do things and I think they made that abundantly clear going in. I think I read though there was a New Yorker piece or somewhere where you know. He has been having audiences with all the candidates at certain points. You know just sort of advising them about you know our ask them why they wanted to run in the first place so I think that he's enjoying kind of having that distance but I don't think you're gonNA see him. You know make a significant physical interaction with the campaign until much later. Plus he had to spend time with people to judge so he could steal office mannerisms and his voice. Cgi CJ Obama. I always fascinated by Obama at the all star game. And how you know he was all around it you know. Obviously it was Chicago his town he loves basketball and so on but like what are Obama's. Nba Ambitions is it. Ownership is it. Could HE BE COMMISSIONER? Do you think he would ever do anything like that. At any kind of official capacity with the I think ownership I I know for a fact it was the right ownership group. He would jump in Chicago. It's not going to be the Bulls because they'll never sell because just printing money there. Yeah but you know I think he would. I think most most celebrities and former players would jump at the chance to be involved with the team. And it's actually really smart. Move for an ownership group. But it's so it's as an owner though not as commissioner or something like that so he doesn't want he didn't WANNA DO ANYTHING. You're an owner essentially. You don't really do much. I don't see Adam Silver's not the commissioner twelve fifteen years from now on something terrible happens. Yeah but but we don't think Obama but if he's an owner that's pretty much a you know it's a nice thing you see courtside you see them in the box and all that stuff. But it's not like that that to me is kind of like even less of a thing than making Netflix shows. Yeah but you could say it's cool. It'd be cool you could say if he's an MBA owner though. Let's say he does like the dare jeeter model where he puts in fifty million but he's the majority teams not that part of the Deir Geeta around where he kills baseball in Florida. The Bar there cheater put in twenty five million had a bunch of rich guys backcomb and is the controlling owner the team even though I only put up twenty five million. If Obama did that I would say the bigger question would be. How could what's forces of good could come of this beyond just being an owner of an MBA team and having that big business investment like how do how do I help shape a league into being a leading social and cultural for snatches for the country for the world's that the rates might time I? I disagree slightly in this respect. I think that he is actually quite interested in the granular aspects of NBA. Like I think that he is the kind of person who would like to be? An trade talks and have a briefing on that kind of stuff. You watched Obama do that. Was it some sort of like you know. There was the interaction with Zayante. But he knows everybody. He's watching everybody. The Guy Probably watches as much. Nba's anybody on the ringer. He's prepped. You know he wants. He listens to the ringer. He listened to the ringer. We know they will multiple accounts. Great Wow yeah. Jv listens to the press box. I'm not sure I knew that he does. Wow I have a last question sports media. Which is that where does Brady make the announcement? How My podcast March seventeenth? Come on She's a Stephen a Smith. Come on podcast you coward Tom. Brady you know there has to be a plant represent yourself? He's got to have some like media. Strategy Plan you know that there's something being a hundred percent with mark and I talked about this on Tuesday. The most fun version of the story is going in the cowboys right. Oh Yeah for just content Jerry. Backstabbing craft stack said the being a free agent. Tom Brady going America's team. All the cowboys fans are hate the Patriots. Tom Brady doing an immediate one. Eighty what a moment i. That's the that's the all-time Fund Most Fun Sport Story and then also Kyle We'd never seen again doesn't Saint Patrick's would we see you again? After drinking binge would happen that the I don't even know Brian's worry to become a cowboy. How much of a honeymoon would he get That's a good question. Two and four. When I'm saying Oh and what do you think? Oh my God. He's washed up we panic. Yeah there'd be there'd be a quick panic button because everything he did would be every. Espn show right. I TAKE WOULD BE FIRST SEGMENT. Second segment probably half the third segment and take a break. Talk about something else in the back of the cowboys and Tom Brady well. That's the thing if he goes to. La Brady's in La cool well there's no chargers fancier there's that one nobody cares Would be cool for him. I'm sure to live in a city with celebrities for two years. His family would be able to come. That have stained these coast with that. It's a good thing or bad thing for him but Dallas Fiji's talk in legacy and you're talking about not spending your entire career in one place and all the benefits that come from that and you're going to another team. This is not Emmett Smith going to the cardinals. This is not know. Oj ending up on a crappy niners team etc etc. This is like all right. I left the Patriots a Winston superheroes there and for my last act. I went to America's team and I was a Dallas Cowboy for two years in the biggest franchise in all of professional sports. That's the noisiest option. It seems most like sort of sentimental option would be the freaky Friday which through with Jimmy Garoppolo like having him go to the niners and then Garoppolo back to New England that I find that actually at the most so kyle signed off on that option. It's fine it's better than nothing. We feel. Like we'd get duped right. We talked about this the other day. It was like the opposite of buying low and selling high right right but I can put if Brady left. That's the only acceptable option for you. Though you would jacoby percent coming back you wouldn't be one hundred seven against either no for. Here's the question. Would you brainy to win another Super Bowl and San Francisco? Kyle like could you do the Ray Bork? Thing got a problem no problem at all. I would only do it if the pet's were out didn't Boston Parade for Ray bore now that that's what isn't one stanley cousin. We don't we. Don't talk about the Ray Bork. How we handle it really happened. I was living but that was when Gerry. Callahan was calling loser town and I. It was just a lot of dark shit happened. Parcells laughed Len bias. Reggie Lewis Hockey. The owner had ruined the hockey team. A parade we prayed and Boston. Yeah it was. Trust me his way worse than that. Every sports bar and Boston was filled with people watching avalanche games like they were Bruins Games. It was really sad. It's like if Dallas had a parade for Tony Romo's new contract who is V was even worse than that. 'cause he'd left a year and a half earlier but we we were just down in the dumps and that's what made this century erotic where it was like. We came with anything anymore. What's Root for Ray Bork? Like that's how satirist for Ray Bork. This right you don't like someone you don't Allston is gonNA open like a niners bar if Brady goes to San Francisco you know. Try to capitalize on the center. I think so people love Brady. Yeah I will pull it off right. Deflate Gate pushed to another level and really made it like an us against them thing with Brady and if he laughed and I think that part of the reason he's been doing this whole dramatic thing for so long. I still think he stays but partisans played up the dramas because it seems like. He's preparing people for the chance that he might leave in his leaking like well. You know. I've been underpaid for a long time and Blah Blah Blah but it is such a bizarre construct compared to like people want to say it's like You know to rant in his decision or Lebron's decision but like he's forty three. This is so weird compared to those situations not somebody at the peak of their powers. I mean you know but if you think about him like a celebrity holding onto his last vestige of his prime like almost like he's an actor you know in comedy weird decisions actors make like what may Johnny Depp WanNa do. The fourth pirates of dependence movies ever seen any of But like when Ben Affleck became Batman. Why did he do that? Things were going so well. Why are you trying to be Batman? Ben Affleck is I fuck it. I'll do it. Maybe Brady's just like fuck it to me. Tired of being underpaid. I'M GONNA understand it'd be like if Johnny Carson you know ninety whenever he retired ninety-one ninety-two had gone to like CPS. You know. I'm going to do one more contract or Letterman. You or Kobe gone to the next for the last two years of his career. Like with that of would what happened the last six weeks would it? Would it have been one hundred percent of what happened if you just kinda ended his career and the fucking next for no reason having remembered? Emmett to the cardinals and Tony. Dorsett to the Broncos. Ray that was I think people would forget. I think people forget about the little echo in no like that. If you're right 'cause I was talking to somebody who is talking about stalking. Ah Die Hard. Pats fan friend of mine who still mad Adam Vinatieri left and went to Indianapolis and we're talking about Brady in the Brady legacy. And he was saying Adam venit tariff he stayed fused the kicker from nineteen ninety six told now for twenty five years the kicker. He's actually in the conversation with Brady Belichick in a weird way. We're talking about the Brady ballot check. Viteri paths and it was like never would have paid for a drink at Boston again. He would own twenty five. Sports bars called atoms. Adam sports bar and grill. He just would have been this attornal hero any fucking to the colts and he gave that up and I know he made a little more money and he's had a great hall of fame first ballot but had he stayed this whole time. His whole career is different in the legacy of it. And so I I do think the stuff matters for. Brady's you know it's hard to compare them to anything but belichick totally cut out the. Yeah Yeah I mean I mean somebody. Who's not sentimental? Belgium Terry left but you know I do think it matters to be in that I remember when yeahs retired and we had yesterday and Yeahs is like ploughing through Marlboro reds on the bench Twenty-three fight it. Was You know he was our guy? He played for the rich his entire career. You know I know that stuff matters. I don't I don't think it matters to Brady as much. The legacy part I think to this really does seem like there's some sort of justice at play here with him Yup our eyes. I've bitten the bullet for this long and I'm not doing anymore. You're GonNa pay me what I'm worth and you're getting me weapons site Jason. No I the one part of this. I find funny. Is this suggestion that he has so many options. You but if you really look at them and sharp relief. They're not that great options. The the the the one that makes the most sense logically staying in New England. And and so when you start from that standpoint you know are there are people out there who are making the argument that the titans actually marginally a better destination from a football standpoint. I guess you could do that. But they have free agency concerns of their own. I just I find it funny that. We're all GONNA hang in the balance if Tom Brady goes to the. La chargers raiders. I know he wants it. He he craves. Turn straight PODCASTS. I've talked about it. This is what he wanted. Dick Brian Brady and the cowboys I just I mean what is what is what's the first twenty minutes like after. Brady. The cowboys happened. I just can't imagine it. Well the cowboys. It's who cares. They will be cowboys or just. The content machine lead time to the Knicks. This week cowboys like that. Even more you know just there they number way dare our number one content mission absolutely. They they really have no playoff says and twenty five years and they're treated like at the six time. Champ. Yeah well. I think the first thing that happens is that Eric shanks calls the NFL has I'll have all sixteen of those fleas. Thank you Lord. Yeah I don't care about the just give me sixteen Calvo Games. Thank you could Fox. Could they pay Brady under the table? Like twenty million bucks to come to the cowboys. Why not? Hey Tom In your mailbox tomorrow is GonNa be a check. Just cash it. Yeah I mean for Fox. That'd be that would lead to some of the highest rated football games regular football games of all time as definitely not going to Monday night. Football Patriots are going to be on Sunday night. Joe Buck Wins. Latter Aikman AIKMAN's in a weird place. Oh an eternal cowboy defender alias to defend Tom Brady. He's how he's GonNa kill the cowboys last year. Which by defender none of the none of the front office and he's been critical on the front office. I mean he he wouldn't criticize Dak Prescott. He doesn't criticize the players. The Edmund Brady th. That'd be fascinating. 'cause I think eight. When was quick on the quick on the draw on Deflate Gate? If I remember correctly hits you know critical com e that'd be fascinating dynamic. Ooh Yeah I was GONNA say remember. Chris counts worth bringing it up with like seven minutes left Seattle Pass. You can't see this. Jason Bills Got Br. Br brought out a list. I'm still mad about the placate. Well the good thing about deflate gate for Patriots fans that you know the astor's have just kind of like broken. The world record is fifty minutes so like it's a whole notion of like deflecting of football by you. Know half a gram of pressure that doesn't really feel like a scandal when it's matched up against someone pounding on a garbage can to alert about a fastball. Just yet the Astros by beaming Joe Broken yet. Yeah How's the altitude? Yeah it won't be broken and it kind of puts everything I mean. Look you're getting a whole run of like you know. Put Pete Rose in the hall of fame and the trail of this. So you know it's just it's it's set a new standard hot. Take best thing that could happen baseball. I kind of feel that way to baseball in spring training. I believe that I really do. Honestly what was the last spring training conversation? You've had with anyone about anything. Well and the other part is that like there is a little bit of an insincerity when people get so upset about the Astros. Like sort of bungling the apology. 'cause had the astro has come out and just been completely contrite and really nail the apology and gone into great detail about how sad and embarrassed and mortified and apologetic they were. We all kind of would've sat around like okay. All right fine but the fact that they were defiant and Klutzy at all that that just kicks the story into a whole different gear and then you. Yeah so I feel like there's undeniably you know. Good press bad. Press part of this career was my favorite was to bay did nothing. He was not part of that. She's a good man but Alex Bregman. He's comeback worth singling out. This one guy who's days that deflategate either TV it. I enjoyed it. It was Ki- imagining that had been a football story. I asked him magnitude of that. Oh my God I love that. Houston is now America's villain between that and the racket. Oh everybody just as bad at the rockets Texan. I'm delighted. Yeah Oh finally the world understands you did not bring up the fact that the NBA media picks on the NBA and ruins the NBA That was our last topic. I was before quickly. Houston they talked about this little during the election. A little bit on Dallas as corner. There's a lot of fastest growing state in Texas stuff with Houston tough tough. Beat for Dalit is and it's it's a rivalry that the world does not appreciate enough. Yeah Dallas has to step it up need like A. I don't know what you need but you need some aquarium. That don't let Houston just like your. I know you are not on my watch. Like you're taking it on my watch control over for these Houston people know but I'm referring to Daryl's comments bed I know What was that? I texted you about that yesterday. 'cause I'm sorry. Who is the TV announcer? Who's running down the rockets kind of Van Gundy? Maybe I wish he'd said podcast. I would have been like I'm right here right. I know that a part of it. Yeah he's he takes very personally. They're winning and succeeding with this goofy style. New Feed formula whatever strategy. They've done and he doesn't understand why people take it personally. He really like is genuinely confused. But my attitude is way shoot fifty threes game and not. Everybody enjoys that sorry. Yeah and if you win an NBA title that's a great way to shut everybody up go to the NBA finals. We'll also isn't part of the fun of being a heretic like that people. Don't get you and they yell at you and get mad and then you get your event to me like that. You should welcome that kind of anger. That's how I feel Darryl Morris thing I don't get enough respect from the media to Pretty. He say that while. No but that's the implication announcers you know the announcers don't like me don't like the style of play and all that stuff. I mean at this dare Amaury Dork. Elvis doesn't get enough love. Well yeah but through this parallel he. I think I love said is that like you would not find a comparable situation in the NFL. Where like you know somebody would be playing you know I think three yards and a cloud of dust football and that you wouldn't hear Tony Romo running down a team for their style of play. 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The Ocho: Cole Beasley is talking about the Cowboys again

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The Ocho: Cole Beasley is talking about the Cowboys again

"Nona. What up world, welcome to another episode of the Ocho presentative in partnership is always that's been nations blogging, the boys dot com name, Arjo me, of course, from BDB and from right here as your host on the Ocho happy Wednesday. It is very happy hump day, June fifth two thousand nineteen. And we got some, some things dog about welcome. Yeah. Settle settle in hope you're doing well, if you're driving if you're walking, you're on a run, you're lifting weights. Whatever you got going on, as you're listening to this hope all is well, first things first, we had an episode of Bruce in the boys in the blog on the boys podcast feed on Monday, episode of the seven five, oh with myself and Tony Casillas on Tuesday. We appreciate if you can subscribe to block of the boys podcast feed. Give us a rating. Kivus review those things help to show help long the boys and certainly are more appreciated than you can possibly imagine next thing speaking of the to be podcast feed. And speaking of the Ocho, I know we had said this on Friday we were supposed to have Connor Williams, Dallas Cowboys starting left. But you know you know how the biz is giving you a little little Pete behind the curtain. Sometimes things come up. Sometimes things change. You know, these guys, they're traveling the got OT as in minicamps and everything this time of year. And so, unfortunately, will not be able to bring you the Connor Williams interview our deepest apologies. Just one of those things that happen, you know, sometimes that kind of comes up. But obviously we're all pulling for Connor helping has fantastic soft more year with the Dallas Cowboys. I think there's reasonably that he certainly will the Connors in general, our group that Cowboys fans are really counting on in terms of Williams and McGovern. This is our Wednesday episode and on Thursday. We will be joined by Michael kissed of bleeding green nation kissed his fantastic. Follow on Twitter fantastic sort of resource for the NFL. Obviously, he covers the Philadelphia Eagles, which is a team that we don't like all that much. I know. But kissed his great, he's one half the kissed and Solex show. In fact, he does a great job running the BGN podcast network himself over there, and it's revenge week, actually across espionage. All of our sides are doing things with regards to revenge. You might have seen I wrote something about revenge into the Cowboys can get in two thousand nineteen up on the side, you can check that out as well. But I thought with revenge being the theme, I thought, what better way to kind of explore that in an audio fashion, then to discuss things with somebody who knows the Philadelphia Eagles, really, well, not a lot of revenge for the Cowboys to get on the eagles in two thousand nineteen. I mean, there's certainly a rivalry in them, certainly want to win those games. But how do you get revenge on team that you swept, so kind of an interesting concept, certainly I'm excited talk to kissed on Thursday's episode that's when you'll get that, but it is Wednesday in a lot to get into in fact, sort of one, one big thing really, that happened on Tuesday Tuesday afternoon ish some quotes in some video started floating around the internet of Kobe's, late and probably thinking do what he's talking about. Kobe. The place for the Buffalo Bills. I know that Kobe's the place for the Buffalo Bills. He said they have incredible facilities. I know all of that. The Kobe's Lee met with the media in buffalo on Tuesday and had some things to say. Pissed off. Cowboys fans one thing in particular, and I think it's a really interesting thing worth exploring. In fact, let's Hugh a coal had to say this audio, by the way comes to us courtesy of our friend Mark Ludwig. Zach marks the editor for bills digest contributes today p so shout out to Mark for this audio Colby's Lee said something that is probably going to bother you. Heckman athlete might be the best athlete I've ever played with that quarterback just being able to throw it and run it do the heck basketball player he could shoot you can hit the baseball. I'm excited to get out there. If you didn't figure it out that is Colby's Leah talking about his new quarterback Josh Allen. That's right. Buffalo Bills quarterback. Josh allen. Apparently at least in the eyes of easily potential, you perhaps the best athlete. The Cole has ever played with as far as his quarterbacks are concerned now I know I know I get it. I get it. You're upset you're bothered Tony Romo Dak Prescott. I know I know I'm here for you for what it's worth the quarterbacks. Kobe played with during his time with the Dallas Cowboys are in fact Tony Romo Kyle Orden. That's why baby shot to the two thousand thirteen regular-season finale, that was worth getting revenge on bring that up around kissed on Thursday. Brandon Weeden good times Matt castle kill in more the current douse offense coordinator. And of course, Dak Prescott and look, I'm going to be honest. Okay. I'm going to be real with you. I'm gonna level with you. I don't think that Cole said anything crazy. I really don't. I mean look, if you don't follow the whole NFL, then other people that only follow the Cowboys have you been only follow their favorite team whatever Josh Allen is a huge athlete. I mean, and I don't mean huge literally, I'm in huge is in a great athlete. He's a phenomenal athlete. In fact, that's his thing when he was coming out of Wyoming a year ago, you're and a half ago. That was his thing he was an athlete, and it was can translate, his athleticism to the NFL can develop into an NFL quarterback, etc. His comp for many people or through the eyes of many people, I should say, was Cam Newton, that's athleticism that Josh Allen has, and I understand, you know, you feel passionate about Tony Romo, you feel passionate about Prescott etcetera coal in, in, in truth to the story here in truth to the matter of that. We're discussing Cole has not really helped himself to. You know, to have the benefit of the doubt work form. Okay. At least in the eyes of Cowboys fans he has taken every opportunity that he's gotten seemingly, this offseason to trash the cops. He did say that the facilities the bills had were better than the Cowboys. Although he said in a far more crude way he has gone out of his way on Twitter to blow up the Cowboys saying that target, you know, decisions, come from management, and whatever this does not feel like that. And because of what he said, people are gonna hold this against him, this feels sort of fair, at least this feels up for debate because I hate to break it to you. I love Tony Romo just as much as you do. But Tony Romo all as good as he wasn't asking ball and Isabel on his great of a golfer as years is not an athlete in the way that Josh Allen is an athlete. I mean, look at Josh Ellen's spider chart. It's insane for a quarterback. And that's kind of a Kohl's talk about as, as far as I see this anyway. Dhec Prescott also great athlete. I mean, a lot of people wanna compare actor Cam Newton certainly, but Josh Allen from a measurable from an athletic measurement perspective actually compares to him. And Tony, both fine athletes, and I mean disrespected the rest Kalo random Weeden. I've been I might have forgotten that castles gonna go killing more. But this is sort of fair. I mean, this is at the very least sort of up for discussion, which is alternately. What is important here? But people are going to be pissed off and mad Kholsa this and he stalled the whatever again, he's not really done himself any favors in the eyes of Cowboys fans leading up to this point. That's because we're only in June. We are only in June of the offseason, that Kobi's they left a cow was in. He is already pissed off a lot of hours fans. That's kind of what happens here. Also of note, I thought this was interesting on Tuesday morning ish Lyle Collins posted something Instagram, and it really was. Isn't a photo. It was like a stock photo like he googled it. And it was Theodore Roosevelt's speech, the man in the Rena and Lyle captioned Theodore Roosevelt and thought that was interesting, only because that speech has become somewhat synonymous with Jason wooden, who, obviously, is returning to the Cowboys this season, etc. And I just this is my own thought here. Okay. Nobody's told me anything. It's just my own kind of connecting dots that speech, if you remember when Jason Witten retired is very, very, very very, very heavily associated with him. I just wonder if you know, maybe Jason win gave a speech on Tuesday, maybe gave some sort of speech. Maybe he talked Delile specifically. Maybe they talked about it. I don't know. But that speech is against anonymous Jason when the fact that Lyle Collins Jason wins teammate would pose that says to me that maybe Jason was talking about it and Lyle was inspired and posted on Instagram because who doesn't post on Instagram when they feeling inspired. That's kind of my motto, but either way, I found that to be interesting on the subject of revenge. I know I mentioned that it is revenge week at Espy nation this week something we will get into tomorrow with kiss, too. But looking at the Cowboys opponents in two thousand nine hundred obviously played sixteen games that's only against thirteen different opponents. I went and looked and I mentioned it. This is what I wrote about a blog on those dot com. You can go check it out for yourself of their thirteen opponents that they play in two thousand nineteen the Cowboys historically have had playoff games against ten of them. That's a lot. They have had playoff games against ten of their thirteen opponents in two thousand nineteen and some all time playoff games when you really think about it, obviously, they've had playoff games against their division rivals, which I know I said obviously, but I guess isn't necessarily obvious there's obviously a chance that you can do all this time without having had a playoff game against division rival. But the Cowboys last playoff game against the wash. The Redskins was nineteen eighty eighty-two NFC championship game. So not a whole lot of fun. Is it was a loss last playoff game? The Cowboys played against the eagles was a very good time in terms of recent history. I cannot wait to bring it up with kiss in two thousand nine remember the Cowboys won their week seven teen game to win the NFC's against philli. And then we later, not even a week later. Six days later beat the goals on Saturday night in the wildcard round back to back home wins against the eagles. Back to back affective playoff games, which was really cool. That was last time Dallas Philly in the playoffs that Cowboys have actually only ever played the giants once in the postseason. And you know the game on fortunately two thousand seven divisional round. One of the more painful losses for my generation of Cowboys fans. Really any generation of Cowboys fan, but if you know, if you're kind of, you know, if you're twenty years, old kind of under twenty. You probably don't remember that loss. That was one of the most devastating days of my life that was, you know, for my own personal experience. That was my senior year of high school when the Cowboys lost that divisional round game against the giants. And that was just I mean I I was sick. Actually, I remember I had a horrible had the flu it was just. It was it was not good. But other playoff games the Cowboys of have historically in terms of teams that they're playing the season. Obviously, they had a big playoff win over the lions in recent memory, obviously, the Packers two of their last three playoff losses of come at the hands of Aaron Rodgers and the Packers and the Rams obviously, and they lost to in the play offs and played against storage safely. The bears Cowboys playoff success against Soviet nineteen Ninety-one playoff win the when the kind of springboard of that group. Tony talked about that on Tuesdays episode of the five, but in doing all of that, there are three teams at the Cowboys will play in two thousand nineteen that they have never played against into the playoffs. It's interesting because the Cowboys are playing the AFC east in two thousand nineteen and two of those teams obviously the Miami Dolphins and the Buffalo Bills were teams that the Cowboys beat and Super Bowls, six twenty seven and twenty eight so good times there. But the Cowboys don't really have anything to get revenge on when it comes to the New York jet. It's are doing patriots. They've never met them in the playoffs, obviously, in amazement enough. The only NFC team the Cowboys play this season that they've never played against the playoffs in. In fact, this is the only team the only NFC team. And I'm kind of explain this perfectly, so you can guess it. Try to guess the only NFC teams we're talking to one of fourteen. I wanna fifty goodness gracious. Could your math, right? RJ. The only fifteen teams in the NFC the Cowboys have never played against in the playoffs. Do you know who that is? Obviously, I mentioned they've played against their division rivals mentioned the bears and the Vikings and the Packers and the lions and the Rams obviously the Seahawks. There's only one NFC teams that the Cowboys have never met in the playoffs. Just fades, never worked out that way, the New Orleans Saints. I find that to be fascinating, especially because then if you ask any Cowboys fan of my generation, or one that's twenty years old or whatever there have been some big time games against the saints. But they've all obviously been regular season games two thousand nine regular season. Game was done to feed it. Saints whatever, even people don't remember this the two thousand six game against the saints was big when he Evan scored three touchdowns. I know it didn't end up being big. But the hype around it was very big game was on Sunday night football I think, and it was just huge Julius Jones broke off a touched on early on, and then it just didn't materialize. Anything and then obviously, you have the game last season when the college beat the saints which was very reminiscent of the two thousand nine season whatever. But that's really fascinating to me that they've never played the saints in the playoffs. Maybe this is the season who knows. But either way, lots of opportunities for the Cowboys to get historical revenge against teams like the Packers and Rams in two thousand nineteen. So that about does it for Wednesday's episode of the OJ hope you have a great hump day. Help you have a great start. Your Thursday, etc. We will be back tomorrow, once again with Michael kissed bleeding green nation to talk about the eagles. If you have any questions for kiss at RJ, we're talking real questions, things, maybe you want to know about the eagles because he's, he's one of the people ask he's in a thorny on the worst team in the world. Really the worst team in the history of the world, the Philadelphia Eagles have a great Wednesday. 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Put Romo On The Green

The Golf Podcast

45:21 min | 11 months ago

Put Romo On The Green

"The now on the T. it's Mattie and the catty. Here's Berry and Michael College. You know your weekly teebox dysfunction of your favorite golf. bozos is back alongside the catty. Michael Cow Patty. This is Mattie and the caddy the podcast after a couple of week hiatus. Yes you know Gulf might not taken off season but we we sure had to a couple of weeks to get some things in order. Now I'll do. I'll do cathy quickly a bullet point. Oh of what I think we should be getting today agreed one. This is the quickest and this is the only time we're GONNA talk about academy and Fantasy football three weeks ago moving on moving on point number two Eliza catty flew across the country. We're GONNA talk about this for for the event with Steph Curry and Phil Mickelson and I had to stay. I was taking pictures with Klay Thompson none of which ended up on the matting caddy social media channels and or the podcast Klay Thompson thing was different bullet-point two point three. Some dude got suspended for three years for a flip it off the gallery. I can't wait to get into this and bullet point point. Four Tiger Woods has been cleared to practice after getting his knee scoped so hey look we gotta talk about Phil Mickelson losing all that weight and instill that goes that goes into the film it goes in Steph curry umbrella all right right so having said all of that. Those are my bullet points. I wish I would like to talk to you about today on on return podcast and I will let you have the tee box. Whichever you want to talk about I well. Let's start from the last time that we spoke and I gotta give a shout out to one of our listeners who actually hit us up on twitter reiterating my argument and even screaming at you for not listening the last time about why tournaments have to be played this time but then he went back on his argument yeah he kind of piddly little but I was happy because he heard what I was saying and he was backing me up but then he kinda the left turn yeah and then he kept listening to the Pike. Here's what he did. Here's this guy did he was listening to the podcast stopped it to yell at me on twitter and then after you're done yelling me at twitter. He kept listening. Dan that was right. I don't know if he went that far. Whatever I don't think he went then for which tends to be anyway so that was really cool as far as the fantasy football thing. I'm up one nil oh but we still have not come up with what are we. What are we playing for because we have one more gain. Try you're bad. You're in a bad way right now in our in our league you it's look you're. GonNa have a tough time winning this whole thing which so mom and I'm currently in six six playoff spots. I'm yeah five hundred I'm. I'm doing two doing two one. We're one remaining undefeated team. Yeah and did you see how much I won by last week. We talked about the one week where you had one hundred ninety four point eight points and I had a hundred and ninety four point one. Thank you would have been the only one last week I literally literally won my match by point four so now become fantasy football matches now or point five my matchup yeah one forty forty point five to one forty point one. How about that man boy anybody. Rally Scott tried to he is man. He was undefeated eighty going into the week in our league and then try to make stupid trade with me. Karma Bittermann bad trade guy needs to get slapped open-handed. What's he trying to do. Would you say the wet poem no but I got one from one of our other league owners. Man Radio Randy's my home but come on you know what that says to me to. You think you're dumb Tom. Now you know what it was. He was trying to make a homer because I gotten rid of Alshon. Jeffery and he was trying to make me get him back because he knows I'm eagles do so so you're starting running back. WHO's putting a mad numbers and I'm like dude. Come on Bro. If you're an eagles fan. Why do you pronounce his name wrong. Why do you pronounce Renounces Dame wrong. If you're an Eagles Fan Alshon Jeffery there you go. You always make me 'cause. I put everything you're that I what s on editor thing. I know and I don't say bathroom. Would you like to go to the bathroom bathroom. Yeah it's F. F. R. T. H. wjr So the fantasy of the conversation fantasy portion is is is done but we still haven't decided what we're going to gamble on which we want. We have time at some point point yeah so to Klay Thompson of here's the trip out to the west coast I would I would rather hear go go with Phil Mickelson and Steph Curry because one of them actually pro golfer and one of them. Could actually I know just I'm really proud of. What's Hampson Family Foundation doing for the Bahamas. I WanNa say that okay. That's like everything that they're everything everything everything at their foundation event and I mean everything they didn't take anything for ministry and I'm doing air quotes. Nothing went to administrative fees like every dollar every twenty five cents every nickel that they made went to the Bahamas Relief Relief Fund it went to helping people in the Bahamas which I was really proud to be a part of because my brother-in-law is Bahamian and lives and has a business snus in Freeport which is Freeport has been devastated. Yeah Um along with abacus so that part was cool. Now I get home and it's like hey steph curry's hurries playing with Phil Mickelson you feel like going to La and say or NAPA. What's is it bad time to go to wine country but I just was over. They're like I could have just hung out and taking close with me but okay so set it up. We're going to do a walk and talk with filling. Steph and then an interview chat with them and I get out there and I'm telling you two things number one. I am trying desperately expertly to get Phil Mickelson and Tiger Woods like they did with the match. Yeah have an undercard of Tony Romo and Steph Curry. ooh. That'd be good. I know thank you. Thank you but nobody hears. Steph is the only one who's like yeah man. Let's go. Tony Romo was like Nah. Why don't we do me and Steph versus Tiger of Hill. I'm like no. That's not how A. B. And then when I it feels like Phil if you tiger do another match how about the undercard is Tony and Steph head to head and he was like you'll what about me and steph versus Tiger Air. You go see which we cannot have talked about this with one of them on the podcast. I'm not I mean we could have raised money for Klay Thompson Foundation on the PODCAST. We will have the opportunity listen number one Bahamas recovery. Not I just hey. We're doing a million dollars in a week so they're good to go like this is going to be years and years and years rebuilding down there so. I'm sure maybe next year we do Mattie into caddy podcast from the event and you could play a great. I know I mean I but I like so who who came up with the idea for Steph Tiger Tony fill no it was Phil Steph Fill Staff Tiger Tony Okay and it was Phil's idea they tiger and Tony would work no chance what nope not not. What did they do that by the way before we do well tiger. Tony didn't say nothing because it was phil came up with the idea after him and Steph play together. I don't think you're GONNA get like Romo is an interesting dude extremely in Romo here's can I just say was not the same same guy that I had not. I shouldn't say not the same guy. He wasn't the same interacting with me as he's been in the past ask which was happily surprising for me now. You're not his buddy nice but unless you're in Romo's click. You're not as buddy right. I put here's the thing it when I saw him and talk to him. At Pebble. He was kind of like a little dismissive not in a mean way but just kind of like the aright like whatever you know do a question and I'm just GonNa keep walking this time when I saw him like he said my name it. Hey Mike what's up man named light. It came over. Hey what's going on man how to go great. Janey wasn't the same guy like in pebble in pebble. When I first saw him this pebble yeah and what was he like this week this week. He was great. He was honest and I mean it was just like I'm not following you. I thought you meant that. He took a step back this week. No I'll stop forward. He took a step forward. I'm saying this in a good way. See your the pessimist simister. I'm the opposite I'm talking about a guy who traveled and and covered him for five years in Dallas when he was at the cowboys still festive and he doesn't do media no. That's the funny thing he normally does not do media at all and he was cool like coming over and chat with me and stuff and we talked off camera camera and like I was chatting with him he had been warming up and stuff like that and so it was like I also will say you have heard me say this on this podcast before and I'm I changed my tune and I have to admit that I was wrong. I say no I don't because I wasn't wrong but I did. I did not believe that Tony Romo could ever even sniff making a PGA tour cut. I now believe that he might be able to do that now. You believe that he can not in a real time. It might turn turn now with a real field your way he played in its ornament where so trust look last week at Safeway. That was a real field Justin Phil who else Bryson Bryson Cameron Champ one like I'm saying here but the bottom feel like top to bottom listen in the fall. That's what you're GONNA get dude. That's what I'm saying. Gee Size Ron him tried about John. Deere a real feel. Oh what Jordan speed this one there so so sex Johnson Jordan into the Masters Trot Trot onto the Open Trot Tony out there in May he would. He does what tournament though know pick one. Well colonial would make local knowledge might make the cut there you see but is that a real field. I'd say probably Yeah Yeah. It is all right well so I'm I am now a believer that Tony Romo can make the cut in a PG to know what I find. I was is not a believer before that being said if him and Steph play ten times. I'm putting my money on Steph every time. Oh my God Yup I was with you. I was with you on this argument until I watched them both play when we were at. Tahoe last year who Tony in Steph I don't they don't count now why because just like when Steph played at the web that where the Korn ferry tour event the dude gets it's awful plane from China and then goes the tee it up she now now okay stay there. I'm with you in that. If steph put in the time that the Tony did that steph would be Tony did much bounty is do we sort of saying if Steph had that kind of time staff could compete on the Korn ferry tour but like right now no yeah but I'm not saying right now. I'm saying equal equal time warming up preparing ring for ten matches. I'm taking Steph curry ten times out of ten and I'll need you to be with me. 'cause fill back me up. Oh well gosh and that I mean what do I I know. What does he know what he ain't got to resume but doesn't matter? He's a degenerate gambler hanging out his matter yes. I can't understand yeah well come on the PODCAST. After last time he agreed to come on. He was the one episode boom now. Sun Devil Sticks ghosted news stick together gather listened not if they're calling each other degenerate game. We take pride in that way we had to remove. We went to Arizona State where we take pride of the stuff. You're that's supposed to attach to to remove but look ten times. Out of ten is absurd. Maybe six hundred ten now because we can hypothe- we could make this Y. I'll tell and I'll tell you why and this is the difference between why Tony is struggling now where he is now and something that is going to be difficult to fix in the future this hobby yeah go ahead. It's it's the short game his short game under pressure is not good. It's just not football booth and not a short game under pressure is phenomenal now. Where do you stand. I go back and forth on this routinely. Oh boy where do you use let them in. Yes look if you separate microcosm friends with all all the Athletes Guy Versus Microcosm Cover Golfer. ESPN you know region stand on this. No I don't know this. I'm GonNa tell you right now. Michael Collins the caddy caddy in the beginning stood at one spot and switched the way that I felt Wallo was caddying and has stayed on that side since then for reason like I here's the thing all of those who will what's the side. The side is I love the fact that like Tony Romo got a sponsor's answers invitation to play. I love the fact that Steph Curry got the sponsor's invitation to go play on the web dot COM event or very served out a korn-ferry tore. I I love when celebrities like that who have legit game now. I was not a fan Dan of when Jerry Rice teed it up as bro and then shot eighty one and then declared himself using the laser during the event like because you're going on one of your your Michael Collins Tangent here and I just wasn't a fan of high show where use Promo thing. I'm all for it you are offered. I don't I didn't have that. I had you as being the the okay now. There's two parts of this one. I think a guy like Tony Romo is good for the sport name. Recognition Tony Tony Romo put golf on sportscenter on a Thursday when there was football Xi's enough said nuff said yeah but what about your you talking to both sides your mouth of this kind of thing no not okay. Where are you really because me the the guy that says some of these tournaments are pointless which I still believe that they are you throw at me. The all wear these guys gotta get. They're playing opportunities where they get their okay. We'll tell you taking that from a guy. That's worked at ASA AUTO NOT NO. He's don't say that you are spreading something that is very false and a narrative that a lot of people pick up. That's a lie you can say. He is not taking a spot. He does not have one of the one hundred and forty four starting spots there so he's one forty five no A. sponsored look if you put the Matt Berry. PGA Asia tour event on and you put up six million dollars right yeah to be the title sponsor the title sponsor you get anywhere where between four to six completely unrestricted independent of the one forty four correct correct great good stuff that you're not taking a plane opportunity away from someone and it is not the job of the tournament to go. Let's see we'll just pick number. One forty five one forty six no the job of the tournament and the tournament director is. Who can I bring in here. It's going to get the most attention attention who sell tickets Tony. Thank you know look eyeballs i. I I hear my argument. When I hear from mini tour guys like that's just ridiculous they would do so shut up play better. Have you ever said this TV tough-guy. Yes no you haven't yes. I I had gone to crazy arguments on social media really yes yes so now you know. I had my opportunity. No you wouldn't because because you've already had your opportunity and you choke it away okay but in the Gulf sense what's Romo done to deserve it not what in UN that's not not what they'd sponsor's invitation is four four would have you done. Here's what Romo's done for golf. You WanNa know what Romo did Romo Got Golf on Sportscenter Arts Center. Is John Smith GonNa do that. No I love Smiley Kaufman but if Smiley Kaufman had gotten a sponsor's invitation Asian to play in Safeway. Would I have stayed there Thursday and Friday. Hell No to be fair. You were there to coverged Phil. I was scheduled to leave on in Wednesday night and then Romo is flirting with the cut and next thing I knew hey. Can you just stay Thursday. Do everything on your own equipment. I'm like Yeah Cou. Oh they said the TV crew they said the crew home and I did everything as a one man band which which you always should shut up in crew. What can we're GONNA sound guys awesome. Should you should never have a sound guy but God I make. It sounds all my goodness yeah but see here's the day after Thursday when Romo was done. There was all kinds of stuff going on like Yo. He makes the cut. We're sending the TV crew back. Yeah you know why you're talking about. This is Saturday college football and Sunday. NFL and we're going to now. Don't tell me you you know why Jingle Heimer Schmidt is bringing that heat now Yari you know why this was going on because it was a nothing tournament and all of a sudden nothing tournament ornament got a little bit of attention. That's it we are don't don't pivot here. Here's what we're talking about. We are talking about why someone like. Tony Romo gets the sponsor's invitation as opposed to Johnny Chop over there who didn't make it through the Monday qualifier or didn't didn't play good enough to get onto the PGA tour Atlanta. We have three was the first alternate who is Joe. Joe's one of my friends he's an amazing horse stories fantastic would he have been a better sponsor's invitation and Tony Romo here no no and I say that to his face I I love the guy to death but he is not he should not have gotten a sponsor invitation over Tony Romo because he has PG tour experience and has made cuts. Sorry so just so you're admitting as long as you admit that Romo is a hired sideshow. He's a hired sideshow who has game. I have made the cut. I'm not saying I'm not saying he doesn't have game. He's got game for other tournaments other than PGA tournament no he has gained for the the PGA Tour Dude. You don't shoot two under par two. PGA Tour von on any real round unless you have PGA tour game sorry now I don't do I. I agree but he didn't do it. He did it one round and then he blew up. That's one more than he's done it before. And oh by the way can we just. I don't know go check it do do like Ted Potter coup because that is one on the PGA tour but you go back and check his first year on core korn-ferry torn now whatever it was then this dude missed every cut he put himself into like twenty in a row twenty cuts in a row. He missed so you're going to say. He ain't got game either. Oh all right. This would all say that about Tony Romo. Oh my God you're GonNa Give Your Eagles putter back. What is your deep like wooded Romo duty. You get this infatuation watching him. Shoot two under par on Thursday completely changed how I see you. Don't go all right so you don't like. We've all had that magical around. You don't believe that was his Nah. Nah -cause if you do if you do that once you can do it again and it's not like seventies the lowest score he's ever put up there. You know what I mean so now it's all what is every everything that we do everything that athletes do is all about getting comfortable being uncomfortable so tony had never shot two under par in a PGA tour of his clever never even sniffed it so guess what do goes out and does it and on Friday never been in this situation before and feels a a uncomfortable level. He's never felt before I in a two player. Would've what correct welcome to what every. PGA Tour pro has gone through at some point point at some level in some event. Every tour player has gone through. Every tour player has at one time probably shot sixty five or sixty four even sixty sixty three in the tournament and now trying to follow it up. Most guys don't the first time they do it. Most guys don't but that's their uncomfortable so seeing I'm Tony do this. It just made me go. Wow it's seen. Tony made you fall in love now man because don't forget. I always go back to if if it's Tony and Stephanie. PGA Tour going toe to toe. I'm taking Steph. Do all of your friends know how many allegiances you have yes. Yes they all here this. They all have heard me say this this. Is You know me better than any. You know me better than almost everybody you know there. There's nothing that I will say here that I won't say in front of someone. That's very true so all of my guys when I talked to all these dudes remember it was me who was telling Dowie Van Wall when he was like them break seventy nine. I'M GONNA eat my golf bag and I was like Dowie Brr Brr. Okay calm down here dude 'cause I'm recording this like and I'm GonNa. Put this out there like you. Don't want to say that this do. I'm telling you I've seen this guy's game. You don't understand and yeah he got it. Okay art stupid and now he still hasn't eaten the front panel of Golf Bag. Yet left led to digest the realistic. I know but he just even faked one like you at least got to eat some leather. Do have a lie so we we are going to pivot off your Romo man crush stop. You look your bro Guy. You're the freaking now one of their member at Tile Brand Jed read to ever forget bread and look. I showed L. Dunkin. My My sportscenter co anchor. I made a joke on air care about Phil being a ripped athlete now. She didn't believe like laughed at me on hairs. During commercial break I showed her picture and she couldn't believe it all you saw it up close and personal holy cow. Two students got the twelve pack. It's a what what is what secrets did feel give you. He's not eaten. What do you mean not beaten shifted. What do you mean that eating like. He goes on five day six day. Fast now remember. I told you how Kelly slater wanted me to ten day. Phil did a six day so the first time he did. It was right before the Ryder Cup the right now yeah. He just did one this year. Didn't he or was he open the open. The open 'cause that's. That's where I saw when I was like. Do you lose weight. You look fantastic and show me a picture of him without a shirt on like doing a pull up. When I was like dude you can almost Mosul like six pack adds here like you're kind of clothes he was again. I don't feel kind of good I lost fifteen pounds and six days and stuff and now he he is gotten like super fit in crazy. He's doing crazy workout stuff. There's a problem though he's not eating no. Oh that's not the pro. I'm not. I'm talking about this problem with his golf now. Yeah Oh yeah it's horrible. You'd think it would make him better. Tony Romo beat the snot out of them mall first day so easily would that do he's just not eating NA NA and Steph. We're talking about it too. Because of course at at the end when we were done playing we do to interview words to three of us again up on a balcony and steps boy comes out with a bucket of fried chicken like the kind that was made by chef Thomas Keller. They're like assure dude it was it was so evil and mean and torturing at the Saint Cause me and filled with like you know that you just bring out a bucket of fried chicken but Steph was like yeah but I did a workout this morning that killed eight that burn eighteen hundred calories so steph looks the way he looks because he does workouts that burn eighteen hundred calories phil does to work output. He ain't eating nothing 'cause he was still trying to lose yeah but that's not healthy in a way it's not. I know the intermittent fasting is and all that but what he's doing isn't healthy well it. It is the first first couple of times you do it and like look. I can't not Kelly slater because I'll see that dude and he does ten day fasts all the time he was. He just drink water. Yeah does this whole like he does that. I guess everyone women called the beyonce thing where you drink like a T. That's it's lemon cayenne pepper and honey and that's it for ten days and Kelly told me about it like wow there's one that's there's is a famous one that you that you mix yeah you mix water with. Cayenne pepper the hunting the lemon juice yes. They're the same as one. It's called the VIANSA beyond in started. There was a book about it back. Oh no she started it but it was like something whatever but that's what Kelly still does those and and basically what it does is it resets your recess your whole body correct to its natural state correct. It's like it's yeah. It's a giant reset button. which is you're kind of wild to think of then? I looking at Phil going. This dude lost fifteen pounds six days and he is healthy feels fantastic. These numbers are amazing being like he's talking about now him amy going on hikes and stuff like that and spending more time just being out doing these crazy energy about eight nine years ago. I tried that one really drives a there was a guy in Dallas radio. Do here's a Guy Dallas radio who did it and my call this to try to reset my body. In about four days in this was when we still lived in Dallas yeah about nine years eight years ago now about four or five days in when you're doing it like the third or fourth day hey you're so weak and you almost feel like you have the flu because your body is fighting. All this weird stuff my wife ashes again. Stop but yeah if you hit the other side of the four day your brand new person but I I I was still working and what I literally was so weak because I couldn't get to the other side of it yes. I was just out of curiosity. That was the whole day it's the master cleanse okay so day to to fill said is the was the hardest for him where he actually he goes. I allowed myself five macadamia nuts which to which steph curry was down on literally on one knee laughing so hard at that as like no man not saying like he was on one knee me couldn't breathe lacks heart when Phil was like art. I did cheat on tate. I had five macadamia nuts and I'll wait. Did you say way I mean we're and Steph is can't breathe going. Is this are you. Is this real. Are you making this up and I'm like I know he's not making it up. So you know you notice sounds like Phil could use but your box every month butcher box delivers humanely raised one hundred percent grass fed beef free range age organic chicken right to your door. I've had butcher box. They sent me some. I cooked it up for father's day and it was fantastic. All of it the chicken the steak amazing put it on the grill one father's. Day put some marinade on it. It was the best and this month but your box is offering new members twenty dollars off your first order plus. 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R. dot com slash Mattie for your fourteen day trial xabier dot com slash Mattie. We'll we'll needs to gain weight and he'll be better but right now because he's so skinny. His swing messed up as going to stay messed up for a while which is why he's been so horrifically inconsistent. You left us without at the break. GimMe more straight. He's really frustrated and you know when here's the beauty the beauty of phyllis his brutal honesty when he's like my golf lately sucked it's been horrible and it's not acceptable but the problem is if if he looked back on history re recent history out call. Patterson DECI decided you know what fat I don't. WanNa be here but they gotta get used to their new body but that's the problem when you lose weight too fast. It's not get used to it. It's that gaining weight takes time from a fat guy. I'll be the first to take because I wasn't always this way so it and this is one of the things that I didn't and think about either like when I started working back out again doing some exercising. My trainer guy was like look man it. It didn't take two weeks to get that fat so you ain't losing it in two weeks the point well with the golf swing if you're playing golf every day and you're slow slowly getting fatter than you know what. I mean like so your your swing is slowly changing very slowly but you're you're adapting to it in that slow slow manner and you don't even notice it. That's right you. Don't notice it at all so now you take thirty pounds off of your body in a month and your swing is like Nah. We still got the fat Guy Swing. The problem is now your arms and everything about your body. We are in completely different positions than they were in as a fat guy. It's just not your arms. Don't even hang the same 'cause. There's no bellied yeah yeah. There's no there's no girth. There's no girth so you look and feel amazing and you think to yourself. I should be able to just go get it but but your subconscious and your body is like they're still in the. I'm the fat guy swinging a golf club and that's what fills going through. I like he was another example. That's perfect remember. David Duval got to world number one and he went on a tangent working out. This dude gave himself vertigo. It's also like these guys. I mean like the guys that we see when rory was pudgy. He was dominant when he became workout roaring and he came out of getting a little hurt a free safety. Yes Jason Day. I mean these guys they're used to the one body coming up then they get the money in the trainers and all of that and then they changed their physique in inherently. That's GONNA change mechanics well yeah. Here's the thing with if your body is not already built like Brooks kept is the freak on on the PGA tour right now because he is already built like a linebacker so he's been working out for a while Cameron Champs same thing like dude. There are dude. Dustin Johnson might not look like it but that brother is rednecks strong like Oh yeah and there's a difference yeah. There's a huge difference but what you know what. Dj Ajay hasn't done. Dj hasn't tried to bulk up like rory. Rory looks fantastic but it took him a long time from when he went from baby fat to like yoked Rory to get used to this swing and then he was changing equipment and God bless all these different factors with Phil. It's all just body and it's just GonNa take him. It's GonNa take him a while and a lot of work like reps after reps but if this keeps him young in shape he's got the time to do it and you know what the fund that he's having now social media and he knows it's like here's another example of a guy who lost a lot of weight did his thing in it paid off in the long run. Vj Singh yeah the he's a noted workout freak oh now but he didn't used to be used to be a little PUDGY PUDGY so we're coming up against it here yeah. We've talk about this three year. Suspension Gimme is good. It's a bit absurd well you shouldn't you shouldn't out relief flipping off the gallery which I find kind of funny Menarini with that either but three come on. I don't have a problem with doing that. Even though it was on live TV how low here's the thing I i. I can't believe I'm going to say this but I'm GonNa give brand-new shambling some credit. Oh Big Daddy you. I know man I know. He still has not unblocked me yeah. I think you'll get over it. Nah I whatever I don't care about that. I'm actually proud that he blocked me that he won't confront me because he scared but that being said I still respect him and his golf knowledge and he did some research and said he found not brandel Chamblee and he put this on twitter because I you know he got burner accounts. He got he found nine. Class D felonies felonies that imposed less of a brisbane sentence then what bur what bio Kim was given I oh yeah he just looking at the twitter right. Now goes to the Korean. BJ Tour has spent a bail cam for three years after he flipped off a fan using their cell phone and his swing Randall said just for reference I looked and found nine class. Steve Felonies then impose less of a minimum prison sentence lanese felonies now this this is why I have such a problem with like people that are like oh how dare he use such an obscene gesture. What does it mean. I and I had a the judge safest to someone in court that I saw and was like whoa someone's he flipped me off and just goes well. What does that mean like when he sticks fixes Middle Finger did you what what does that have a meaning does it. Does it have a meaning to it because if you check no it really doesn't you can take it to mean what you want it to me. My problem is how long have cell phones been around. Oh Gosh a while twenty you're telling me you still don't know how turn your ringer off on a cell phone cell phone so we can we can do a whole podcast on cell phones and just how horrific dealer. I'm look I I am fine. Mine was cellphones being at golf tournaments but I am also the. I'm also someone who says if you do something stupid and forget to turn your ringer off. Dan Whatever happens to you I hate to society. We're GONNA have our cell phones on. It's gotTa be Iran. Everything I agree with that I I do. I mean look they're useful tools and I'm one of them like I use it a lot and I listen. I'm I wish that we can have our cell phone out at Augusta because if I'm down on it number twelve or thirteen and something happens. There's no way for anyone to tell me. You need to get to the media center right now. I'm still deciding whether or not you belong. I'm GonNa Gusta get you. Plus yourself all messed up jacket for that. I'm not gonNA spend eight hundred dollars jacket doc. ID suggested laser his my eight. They didn't make suggested I strongly suggested the story. In the year plus we do this that the ads like what you have to right right. They basically just give the O- camera bio kin they gave the biogen. They're like sure we would read it if you three take each other's heads off and football and they're getting eleven games. I just don't understand I don't know and I'm not going to buy the whole like it's a society thing like society. No I'm saying like I'm sorry I ah should say I don't. I don't WANNA sound dismissive to culture because I'm sensitive to every culture is different in every culture has different different different different ways that they do things and look at things and react to things like there are words in Australia that we don't tell us here in England that we think is one of the most offensive words ever and they just throw it around. Willy Nilly like that's fine apparently in no rise with run run on the run of the litter right so I'm not trying to like I don't WanNa. It'd be dismissive of that and I don't want to come off as insensitive 'cause I am sensitive to every cultures traditions yeah but you're not I'm going to tell me that flipping the bird is a tradition that warrants three pitching me that the PGA Taurus considering upholding too because then that's that's empowering. You're going so if someone wants to mess a player up. All they gotta do is make a noise with a cell phone and if the player reacts the player gets punished. I like what happens to the fan. That's it's it's horse. It's a bunch of bull a bull and I think that the person that had the cellphone. It doesn't know how to turn it off their run to there. It is run. It is all right so we've gotta get the next podcast. We're GONNA do for programming. You and I will both be in Scots out or junior senior PGA event. We will bring your but we'll do a podcast from there. Oh absolutely have andy on any northland dottie pepper while the whole crew. It'd be fond grade. It is it is so the next podcast is coming. It might be late at might be late but it'd be late because y'all aren't getting out there until Thursday next week. I get out no. I don't know Oh you're wrong on all that. No no no. It's going to be until the fourteenth okay there every other week mode right now until you gotta get out there. We're we're not doing a podcast the weekend my birthday. When's your birthday next Tuesday. That's right the eight yeah man. Lebron balance the scales. I can't believe that you can't believe that I was on the side that I am with the whole Romo spa invitation thing there was a lot today lots of digest. Oh Man I'm going to go to a call of duty commercial. Oh man if I if I get my hands into games. I'll send him to your kids. Lease is please do I found out from Steph curry because my ten year old goes ask Steph if he plays any online game so we can play together. All you guys handle. He doesn't doesn't play any none good and Phil Mickelson showed me part of the fireside chat with Larry David. That did not make it onto the air. I met his amazing. It was oh my Gosh Larry David talking about Phil Mickelson missing the US Open that Aaron Hills for his daughter's graduation and it was like I couldn't on one knee in the middle of the golf course it was awesome. We'll find something to do for your birthday. 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