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I think I can honestly say I believe everyone would agree with that statement so it is only seventy nine dollars and it's like a full day you just attach it to your toilet. It's pretty awesome. I thought of it like this. Because would you clean dirty dishes like with dry paper? Tony would I Probably not something crusty dirty. Not Saying your butts are like that but I'm just saying if it was you wouldn't do paper You'd what you'd wet it. Beauty Mater That kind of stuff. So turn your bathroom into your modern day. Basis go to hellofresh dot com slash grownup. And Get ten percents off your order. That's Hello Toshi. Dot Com slash grownup. And get ten percent off your touchy. My name is Aaron Kinsey. And here's how I say who Hello and welcome to another episode of Andrea Savage grown-up Woman Hashtag Potholes. I am sitting here with my some. What friend In the process friend. Tony Paxton. How are you hi now? Tony? Today is a big day because this is our first time celebrating your birthday today. How did you know by the way honestly because when we were scheduling the podcast and emails were going back and forth you wrote? I did a while ago days. My birthday start. Shopping now knows my on my calendar. Like somebody who does what real friend a real friend and. I was like okay. Let's mark that down. Still GonNa make them work. But I'M GONNA mark it down obviously just because your birthday you don't work again. Yeah everybody separate young people's attitudes of yours. How young now. Yeah so. How old do you think I think I turned again? Why do you know this Tony? I know that you have this presided. I don't think I put that part of the not but you are in a band. And they're motion city soundtrack. So I have ways all right and as opposed to you. I'm obviously taking this friendship more seriously. I I don't know that I mean I'm I'm impressed because I didn't one. I didn't know that you knew it was my birthday too. I forgot because I honestly I really do. I like to pretend like I make a lot of my birthday but I really don't care of course because your forty one and that would be crazy. I do find people who are like in their mid forties or like. It's my birthday month jar I really. It's also my grandmother's birthday. Today we share birthday. Is She with us she is? That's fantastic ninety six today. Holy Shit Yeah and like crazy with it like you would never guess. She's ninety six. Your grandmother and I are going to get to know each other. Do you think there's a world what's your what's her name Marie. Do you think Andrea Marie ever get to chat whereas Marie. Marie is in Indiana. Okay I can get Indian. I've also we have phone technology. Strew I do. I do have to call her today. Yeah so would you like to call her together? I don't go like she would just be like what is happening. Is She send you a gift? She'll send me a card and nothing she does. Yeah that's very sweet. Yes do you send her anything now? You are piece of Shit. I mean we all know that I just heard the doorbell. I heard that too. That was not in post not imposed. I think our guest is here. Sounds that way Angela? Kinsey is here today. Exciting I know from the office from haters back off and lots of other stuff. I'm excited for this one. I've known Angela for like five years. She is a funny lady and different than she gives off. I think which is yeah. I've seen her on some talk shows here and there. Yeah so I'm excited to sit down with the lady. I know you're gonNA enjoy sitting down with Miss Angela. Kinsey Forward to her remembering the time she and I were on a flight together. We are not bringing that up now. We're we'll get there. Oh God Angela Kinsey. What are we rolling? We've been rolling this whole time. Well son of a gun son of a gun. That is what we're going to be dealing with Angela. You have stepped into my layer. I know I I've asked touchy is coming out of it. I see yeah again. Chris Hardwick gave that to me. Yeah in a gesture of love and affection as one does as one does. He's okay so I was trying to think when we first met first of all and I think it's on hot wives first season of hot wives of Orlando which is crazy because I feel like we are lives. Have done this crisscrossing. That's the first time we was only like four years ago. Five years ago maybe five years. Yeah five or six. Yeah well it was two thousand and fifteen fourteen. I don't know five years guys. Welcome to episode of Andrea in Angela. Talk about dates and minor math Hashtag. This is forty by the way we wish I. I have two more years. This is what I was thinking about though. What do you remember that you and I experienced? What was my and maybe yours most awkward interview that I've ever done for press. Oh my God I don't remember you're GonNa you're GONNA be like. Oh my God indicative that. I've done a lot of awkward interviews and I'm like which one was that it didn't involve it was for hello giggles in New York City involved in art. God you know what I think I would like. It was like my coping mechanism has filed that away. That was insane. I had not thought about that until I was doing whatever last night and I was like. Oh my God I for I think the same and then I watched it. Oh no you did not so let I have lain. What IS THE STRANGEST OKAY? We were doing press. I think for the second season of Hot Wipes. I think it was hot wives. Las Vegas right and for those of you guys. Listening we did a show called HOT WIVES. Orlando and it was basically like a mockumentary of the real housewives. Yes created by Donna Furman and Daniel Schneider and it was Casey Wilson Christian into Shaw Shali Hill. Yeah Aaron Inherently Hayes and God. I'm blanking on our blanking on people so Timberlake Angela and I are New York and hello giggles asked if we can do. This interview called an inconvenient interviews. And it's for a place called the artful bachelorette in New York City and it is a new. Yeah it is a drawing class with a nude model. Yeah and we were supposed to draw his penis over his body body but they kept focusing on the Pena's they really kept pushing the Venus and it was the of thing where it was like. I think they were like Oh. These girls are wild. They're gonNA this all three of us. Were like we were silo uncomfortable. So it was so quiet and warm. It was high. It was a Hot New York hot day and watched one. Tj Who was our nude-model it wasn't like he was across the room. It was like he was a stripper. Right it was like it was like he was like on the coffee table right in front of us. He was maybe three feet we were eating. We were right at pene level. Yeah and he was real chatty. He wasn't like a quiet. We're just doing a professional art class. It was sort of like a stripper slash model slash by a car from you know I was like. Are you gonNa tell us about the windshield wiper features like he was just really chat. I will say we pulled it off and it came very cute but I just remember being like I wonder how did I get? How is this? Is this how do I have a child? How the moment that I love but also I'm not sure I'm mature enough to handle what's happening because part of me is a thirteen year old boy so for the first like twenty five minutes. I couldn't make eye contact with anyone. Look at Andrea or Timberlake new. They may take you off because you guys wouldn't do it. One of US had to do it. We were being interviewed and they were like all right. Who's GonNa take the towel and none of us volunteer and finally I was worst up and you see me do it. You see me not look down and just sort of try to do it as clinically and professionally as Oh my God. That just delighted because I had forgotten about that and that is crazy pants. My favorite part is there's a shot where I'm actually they're interviewing us and I'm talking about how great it is to work with women and this and that and having a very real answer and then they pan out and just you just see but nude male buttocks in the foreground on. Oh my God. So that is how how we met. So that's the story about how I remember. I remember when the first conversations I had with you we seen one of hot wise. Landau was a pretty shoestring budget and we don't believe much there was a string ice hate them. I honestly we're not talking. We loved it. We shot seven episodes in seven days for those of you don't understand television. Usually there's five days to shoot an episode of television so that would be thirty five days. Yeah we shot in one day. It was insanity and there was. We didn't have trailers we were in our cars. Change eight lunch in our car. Yeah we sat carson up in a busted Like housing development. Santa Kurita where they had started building houses and ran out of money. Or no one would buy your ghost town of mcmansions perfect for US shooting. Yeah and then we had one trae was one trailer that we shared with the whole crew. The writers the make arbitrarily makeup wardrobe and we had a little couch that we could sit on and that was underneath the wardrobe and we all changed in the. I saw all them guys. All Your Business all the business outfits where the business was going to be pushed up and pushed out. It was the it was imagined. Like you're on vacation you're going to Wyoming and you have an RV and then put fifty people trying to work in the RV and the RBM changing clothes. Those are my early memories now. I think you were dating your car. You would just maybe started dating Josh. Then maybe I had just. I know that we are the very beginning it was. I remember as a beginning I was like I. I don't know and but it was. I look back on that now and I would talk to him on my car. Right there. But we weren't like dating dating you know but I remember though you guys were having some fun because I remember you being like like. We had some fun well. We saw each other two Saturdays a month. Yeah I won't get into it but we have like joy and things and we only had two saturdays meant so it was like having a long distance relationship like I was like what am I dating someone in the military like. He's back in town or whatever you know. You gave me one detail that has stuck with me. Now it's not about detail but you were like it was like it was so great and so like I can't remember like passionate whatever and you're like both of my earings got knocked out and I was like that really stuck with me and I was like I lost. God I meant to be out there and it was bad it was like I should be hearing ositive stories about that. Well he's he's a very athletic he shaped person and you're very small and I'm a petit. Yeah and that's that's just here like a weird detail for five years. I've been thinking about Josh. You're lying I don't know the story over the you know me okay. It's great lease yours and you never mentioned it. And now I'm thinking about all the school functions. We've been to go to school together and I've been at circle time like look at water. What about like this is how a pop Seco Seca about Lane John that will be it? Bye Quota Antonio don't you fucking don't laugh and smug no he's like oh well well now. I've got something on him. Go like well. She is acting like a real loser immediately. Thought of your your whole premise for the show. It's like just because we're a parent doesn't mean we have to be lame and then super. I'm actually pretty lame like I'll take you down a notch on your cool factor. Pretty fast I feel like a lot of people like you do. Have this sort of like I'm like nerdy. Mom like sweet you know like wholesome. I'm like there's there's an edge there's no I mean my friend. Michael Mika your he loves you. He's obsessed with you but he's always like people to know how dark you are. My inner circle knows. I love like Awkward. Curtsy stuff I love it all right. Do you like to play games? Are you a game person? Because I I actually don't know this about you. Well like like what kind like would you rather hypotheticals those kinds of things if you don't strap in because doing it. I can't say why are you asking me? I don't know if you're a night person off like running charade. I love that like a celebrity or like I love all of those. Okay well then you probably are not going to enjoy the next fifteen minutes on getting no. Hopefully you do okay. Here we go. Here's a I think. Relatively not crazy one but would you rather only to be able to wear a coconut Bra as top? Okay all the time school to everything or so commando on the bottom. No no no no no. You're sorry that was unclear. Coconut Bra but pants skirt. Whatever you want on the bottom but just for your top. It's always a coconut bra at lady. Business cover lady business covered or or have to wear yoga pants every day. That match your skin tone highway coconut top. Every day. You know needs yoga pants that are flesh colored. Not when you're those white as I am not even a nice shade of white and like a pinkish white and also like all. Your stuff would be highlighted. There you'd have camel toe you'd have like but creases no. There's nothing worse than the color of your skin tone. Any piece of away from a locally. I'll sometimes like the ashore coming. And then they'll like wardrobe will be like putting me in like a dress or something. That is my skin color. And I'm like this is now horrified by the way Hansel Igwe like modesty wear. What does that you know when you have to do like somewhat of a like like you know what modesty where what what are you like the stuff to cover your nipples cover your nipples or when you wear like the flesh toned underwear because they're going to blur it out later us. Oh let me tell you I have on a skirt and I wore like the flesh tone undies. That like don't have a line that was on the modesty okay. Someone in wardrobe had given yes and I was like going to a school thing I'll wear. I know you're loving by the way. Tony Sony's should be so lucky to be a fly on the wall to hear about our modesty where mice Kurt and my first thought was. Oh people will see my flesh tone underwear Microsoft. Like I was like I would have rather I didn't WANNA panty line. Yeah but I know that if you're done but also backs in my dress off they're going to that underwear but would you be. Would it be better for you for them to think you're nude because if you're wearing modesty wear your skirt gets blown up? I don't think they're senior modesty. In going she's going commando she's an she doesn't wear underwear. Skirts moved down. There she is Barbie. Smirl down there so would you would you rather than think you wear those horrible modesty under. They are horrible. I don't they're this shape and color. It's who when I have to wear them because I I write myself a lot of horrifying nudity on my own show do it's me like in Dover positions that's unflattering and then I ended up having to be in modesty where a lot in front of the Criminal Andrea so brave. Not Do that. I could not do it. It's only because I think it's funny when I'm writing it and then I forget that I actually have to do it. Yeah but it is so much worse to be in. Modesty wear in front of a crew and in front of people because it fits weird. It's your flesh tone. So it's the grossest color I almost rather be nude okay so you would rather them know you're wearing those underwear or nude you're at school. It's back to school night and it's a windy night. It's the look she just why it matters either way. You're saying it but gave Tony. Like how dare? I'll tell you nothing. I support that communicate that instinct. I'm either nude when my skirt yellows up or I have on people know that you've got flesh. Tone undies undies with no lining. That's odd better story is that you know insert child's names. Mom commando right. I mean I don't know which which headline trying to go for the headline in terms of our school class. Maybe pick one. You know what I think. I've flown under the radar with our schools cloud. Maybe this is my moment. Yeah this is my moment. Is he like to know amyloid. Kenzi didn't wear underwear Susa. It's on bitch. And on his baller set also. It wasn't that Wendy of night sure. How game up yeah? I'd like postcards from the edge. It turns windy. There was no win that night but she made it clear. She wanted everyone to know on. All right we're GONNA take a quick break. 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We've known each other. Our kids go to school together. This yet you show up my house and you are looking for the bathroom. You get a little lost. You accidentally end up in my master bedroom. Okay and you look in quickly and there's nothing in there except to like grass sleeping mats that are somewhat next to each other. I don't even know what like a Yoga Mat like a Japanese. I was literally picturing like a flat of grass. Japanese sleep tiny little energy. Who of them individual size? All there is in the room. Okay and then. There's a large sign on the wall. Above it okay. That just says bless this mess but it's clearly not in not referring to the television show with shepherd and like like I think that's a cute. Now you come back into the pipe and wh-what walk me through your thought process. Walk me through what you say to me. Don't say to me you have now. Seen that is my private chain right. And that's all thanks for that. I would think I would not say a word because I'm southern I would not say a word and then I would say thank you so much for having me your home is so lovely and then I would leave and I would call Mika. I was just wondering who your first call would call and I'd be like listen. Lady listen to what is that. What is that. And then he'd be like. Oh maybe the fine tacky but okay. La Dizzy Andrea think. That's cute joke for her and then he would say. Did you say anything like of course I didn't say anything. Do you judge her. No but I think there ought now. I think there's a story we don't know. Would there be any. Would you chitchat through the class about it? No no just jaw. Yes Oh my God Josh. Have two tiny little mess. And he'd say you know what no one's earrings are flying off at that adults. I'll tear would come down for us from Yes to call back. No but I'm saying what if you wanted to share something? No need to tell me I need to tell you. Things are not going great with me endure and he makes me sleep four. He loves the phrase. Was this all right. I'm not totally sure what exactly this game is going to be. But I know that you are a big game of thrones fan. I love game of thrones and you dressed in cost. I feel like your instagram. By the way your instagram has blown. I mean you are like legitimate like I mean I always say like I'm not im- rata right like I don't know it's just like super models that are like Bikini and Rodney Richie okay. Is that a person's name no no no. I've never heard this either. Really like her and she does some really good stuff. I'm sure she's great but I don't. I can't understand the words. Can you spell what you're saying? I have no service. Oh Yeah we'll give me. I'll look it up here. Get spell it to me. I think this is on instagram. M. R. E. M. R. A. T. A. But that's just the handle that's her? How Emily Oh rattus gay? I can't say her cable. That's her name. I didn't know 'em Rahda always popping. Okay this twenty four milllion now. Angela instagram while. I'm no murata okay. I'm not emily. I don't have a bikini line but also hotch I know hotseat Taty. I know it. Also like she's out there. She's Dooley's doing it. I like it But I do. I do follow you on instagram. I end Oh. Let's be awkward. I was like Oh quickly trying to follow you by the way I'd be like. Yeah why would you do following? That's great so I was thinking about. Is there anything fun? In which office characters would survive. In the game of thrones world sure with people and then do in vice versa. Do you think just cross the board harder to survive at like black or a paper company in Scranton theory like really. I mean equal amounts of sadness and despair. Right obvious right. This is my land sacks. Oh sure sure office hookups. Yeah I mean well. Castle black was all men Always there's one or two ladies. Yeah Okay then I'll see. Like game of Thrones World. I feel like more boredom in scranton and that's a hard thing to have to live through. Yeah Yeah I think Dwight would crush it. You know he would be totally fine. I also like some. He'd be a North Man. I was yeah. It's he though a white walker. I don't think okay. I don't think he's fighting the good fight still. Yeah I do I do. I mean it'd be curious to hear rains thoughts on this because I'm sure as Dwight he'd be like Oh yeah and then I mean and you WanNa be collegiate. Don't we all want to be? I'm GonNa tell you right now Angela. You're you're no collegiate I know and you know Khalil. You know her. She didn't call her to like get my accent. Get your access for hot wives first season. I was Veronica von and I was a mix of Lisa Vander pomp and someone else and they made me do a rich and I called Emilia Clarke because I know her a little bit and was like left a message on her voice. Mom was like can you give me? Can you read these lines for me? And it was like I'm having a laser vaginal rejuvenation surgery. And I like to fuck. The boys like it was like two ridiculous senses. She called me back and left it on my voicemail and I used it as like you played that voicemail for us and it was like amazing and I don't think never kept it. I know it's so ridiculous. Although she's I'm sure thrilled that idea but it was so anyway but I'm just letting you know for the record I know are your well. I can play a bitch that I can. Yeah I'm saying I say you Angela. I'm seeing your character. Oh yes my character yes. You're I'm searching. Oh no for sure. Yeah but do you think Angela has a better chance surviving in game of thrones world or searcy in Scranton? I like to think of her working in the office. Yeah exactly with all the stuff. She would get fired so fast so fast. So it'd be like that show. How many seasons did you guys do? Nine Stat says show would be four episode because she would shoot kill every everyone yes or have them killed or tortured or have them killed and tortured. Who Do you think she would put her eyes on as a love connection? Who Do you think she'd find his her should have a lover and then she would and then she would manipulate who she needed to power. She'd have to show up to relationships right. So maybe maybe like you know Jim would be who? She gave her heart to really her heart who she wanted to have sex with and be intimate with but then there would be like her ponds. Then g would be within public. It's going to find it. How different theory what. I feel like her are you. Game of thrones watcher Tony. I'm like the one person that that's fine. What I love. Angie I get to Tony come on. You're doing great. We'll talk to him like that. I feel like in public like she had was it. Robert Breath Ian like she sort of in public had the sort of more open people and then she had the dirtbags privately. Well Baratheon wasn't arranged marriage. She didn't pick that person. Jamie was her fucking bras and she loved him and they died holding hands. Oh ooh yeah. I don't know I think I think Jim Helper. It's just too nice too because it was especially thinking about about Cy Young Guy. She had sex with for a long time. The Young Guy. He was like blonde he had long hair. When Jamie went on. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah I mean she. She's do you live from soft some software on the side. Who Do you think see? I think her privates somebody you would not. Is it Oscar? No she'd be manipulating Oscar. Yes but but she white Dwight Dwight it's twice. She enjoyed get some weird fucked up connection. Yes yes and they're going to take over the world together. Oh my God she would have Michael killed she would partner publicly with Dwight but she would have some side something. I don't know who with maybe JIM is too sweet. I think gyms to Sweden and honestly I maybe actually like Andy Bernard B. At her Beck and call. That's it dwight as her public and her side. I am going to a hundred percent agree with those two choices. But on the flip I think Andy is her public persona and Dwight's hadn't dwight her secret mission to take over the world and not letting anyone else except her inner circle know about and out in the world she's the wife of a Cornell and an idiot and she sort of puts on a smile and his leg. Obviously I'm running. And then meanwhile she's fucking Dwi. Oh yeah they're doing crazy shit taken over and they're plotting to take over the world okay. I can stand by that. I like that all right now while we got that settled that settled. What about Brian? Stark coming into the now. Brian is the blind. The baby kid isn't that Brian isn't it? I don't even watch brand as you see my seismic whatever brand for the way there'd be nothing better than in game with roads to have people named Brian and Jennifer. You don't hear all tiffany stark. Darrell Darrell A brand brand comes in Branson. He's blind seeing visions now. He wasn't blind on game of thrones right but he goes blind. He goes in division. He's in a wheelbarrow. He's he has a big guy that pushes them around door door to door. Yeah what about him okay? So he comes he comes to the office. How does he received how is he received? I mean I think with some whispers. I guess that Brian. They call him Brian. Obviously he just told me. There's a crow living in the refrigerator. Yeah I think there'd be like people a little freaked out and then like maybe Kelly Kapoor would be like your accu- by the way that is exactly what would happen and Bj would just be like. Okay Yeah right into whatever Ryan. I don't care brands at the funding. Say the other day and then she would get so pissed that rank by the way brand told me that he knows how all of this is going to end up. Yeah and I probably shouldn't tell you but if you want I can tell you actually not alive. I wasn't supposed to tell you that you want me to tell you not really no okay. I'll just tell you that that is also a ring on my finger so I love it. This is fun now. I have one more for you. Just a one quick. Would you rather? I've asked this now to a couple people. 'cause I think it's interesting and I think it tells a little bit about people's mindset. Would you rather skinny dip with a perfect stranger? Okay the opposite sex perfect stranger opposite sex or a male acquaintance that you know I am this involves. Oh I forgot something in the house I have to walk across the patio to get it. Get it come back in. Is the acquaintance like it's not Michael. It's not like a close. But is it like what level of acquaintances? It's like Jeremy. My husband and I added the School Jab at the school. Let's say but someone you've known for a while. Yeah would you rather that or a perfect stranger now? Is it weird? If I don't care either way I none of this is weird. Yeah I will tell me why because it. I don't if they're just an acquaintance. There's nothing they're literally just being in the water with like your brother or you know what? I mean a perfect stranger. I don't see like what's the difference sue. I love that. So you're comfortable nude. I'm not A. I'm not uncomfortable in my body. I'm not and I'm also like it is what it is. You know what I mean like. Yeah it may be in my twenty s answer would be different because I was more self conscious. What would what would your answer of and then probably a stranger. Yeah Yeah because I feel safer in that but I'm forty eight now and you know what it just is what it is. I love this answer and I think it's very in tune with actually the also the other than me trying to horrify my friends and make talk about that being an adult doesn't have to be sucky. No actually you can still be laughing a good time and also be a responsible person. It's not one or the other and also I think sometimes being grownup is associated in people's heads and my and I'm guilty of it of the boring shitty tasks is paying a mortgage. It's having to do this responsibility but it is also that what you just said. Yeah it's going it is what it is. Don't worry about it anymore. Yeah I don't care about that stuff anymore I really don't and it's so freeing I mean I feel like it just it for you at some point you don't know when it just turn a corner with it all right we're gonNA take a quick break. Nobody move seriously nobody move. We'll be right back Tony yes. Let's Talk Bras No. I'm glad this is the one you involve me. Yeah you're a single guy now your up. Bras on the break. 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Give it a shot of a moment where you sort of went like. Oh Shit I feel like I feel like a grownup today. Yeah you know I thought about that because I know that that might be a thing and I actually had lunch with Mika yesterday. for his birthday and and basically there are two people in my life. I download everything to outside of my marriage and my mom I call Michael Oric called. Jena those are Jenna and Michael. Yeah those are my two people and they're so incredibly different and they dissect my life and the most fascinating ways. 'cause they come at it from two different places. What like in what what are the two like. What do you lean on each one for? Well you know like I feel like Janai go to for a lot of advice. That's like kind of mom and like just work and stuff like diarrhea and Michael will be like if I ever have a moment. We've known each other since we were in our early. Twenty S. Yeah. We'RE OPERATORS AT ONE. Eight hundred dentist had multiple lifetimes. I know I said. Yeah like normal. I just knew that. That's yeah. Yeah no no. That's really really long time so any time. Like I have something that bumps me or makes me feel doubt or something. He's known me so long. I'll be like I did this and now I'm questioning. He was like you shouldn't question that that was a great move and not as so like who you are whatever. He's such a good like mirror to hold up because he's known me for so yeah and it's important to have that as my mind. My friend Tara and I've known her since college. And it's my go-to purse. So we're at lunch yesterday. And I told him that question and he goes. Oh Angie you have so many so many moments like that and said I know and he was like well which one stick out to you and I was like well. They're small moments of like. Yeah like the first time I could afford to buy myself a car. I bought a Honda and I was so excited. I was paying my rent and my car insurance. I had my car and I was like. Oh my God I'm I'm a grownup I'm I'm completely self sufficient and I didn't need help from anybody so that was. That was a big moment. That felt really ring. And but then little moments come up all the time. It doesn't matter how old you are. There's different places in your life. There's a moment in your twenties where you're like. I'm a grown up. There's a moment your thirties when I had like my daughter was like Oh my God. I'm like I'm somebody everything I'm grown up. And then just recently I was flying to New York and I was going for a job and I was in first class because when you look job. They fly first class so nice. Oh Nice Perth agree per. Yeah and you know you're getting I was getting off the plane and going straight to an interview so I was glad I could stretch out and everything so but there was an older man sitting next to me who was so nice he was really just a nice person. We really chatted a little bit but at the end of the flight. He handed me his business card. And he said you know. Give this car to your husband. Because if he ever wants to make any investments you know I I work in the stocks. And let your husband contact me. If you'd like to invest and I just looked at him I said oh I said you are mistaken. I said I bought this plane ticket. This is my plane ticket and this is my I saw i. I appreciate this card but yeah you should be giving it to me. And what did he say he said? Oh I'm so sorry well I if you would ever like to make an investment I said thank you I. That was it great. I felt like I felt so like. Oh Yeah I'm a grownup I'm a grown up and I make my own money and I am also gave voice to something would have just let slide like now all I could do. I literally couldn't do it. I can't do it again. Yeah and maybe. That's maybe that's not caring. You know I love that. I love that but also I think the beauty. Is You know the office. He didn't know you know he just he didn't show I was on. Yeah yeah he was a totally different generation. Yeah and that's that is a different generation. All Right Interest GonNa let you go okay. Is there anything I think? It's important bill to brag about yourself and be like I'm fucking great at this. Yes or anything. You'd like to Brag about yourself that we may not know it could be a small thing. I am really really good at roller skating really. Yes I'm a child of the seventies and I can put on a pair of roller skates that anytime awards and backwards and spin and really you two wheels Tony. Why are you looking at me like that? I've been listening. I will come to your. We'll come to your country. Do I would welcome my God. I would love you around ZIP around Cleveland. Are YOU GOING TO BE IN CLEVELAND? yeah. I'll just like skate across stage me like oh by the way people would go crazy thing. I want so. Send Me Roller skated. I keep them by the front door. We have like a little cubby where shoes are and sometimes when the kids take the bikes out. I Roller Skate. So I don't know maybe a few months ago like at the beginning of summer. Wow when you're going like on an unsmooth surface we have I have outdoor wheels. I like those better. Yeah Yeah I do. Yeah I have no idea the difference between any more slick. You wouldn't want them outside. Got It what I'm saying why I love this ever. I have so like I with you but I love. The people have these things where they're like. I don't want to sound like an asshole but I'm fucking good at this roller skating. I I grew up in. Our House was like all the floors. Were all like a tile and my mom they would Days Shakeout. The Rug shall move them. All and I would just skate all through the House. I loved it. I loved that now. There's something that you would like. Go like this is something about me that I I'd love to work on. I'd love to tweak something that you're like Oh God I would love to speak more languages. I love language and I wish like growing. I had so many kids that were in my classes from Europe and they all speak like five six languages and I wish in the US yet. We had a little bit better language programming. Now I probably sound old but listen kids listening when you go to burning man and you want to bond with someone from Iceland. You'll know maybe not know. I was thinking like unfortunately a lot of people from Iceland speak English that thought because their country has actually in Bahrain a world the world English events. My face. Mesa's weird things and it looks like it's judging people but it's really just thinking about the sentencing. Well Fuck now probably I probably Gingrich and then it's for nothing Andrew. I was trying to make learning languages hip for the young. That's why I went to burning a sentence like watching. My mother took combine. Yeah okay anything we should be looking out for you. Yes Jennifer and I might be F F and I are going to be doing a podcast. I think when you listen to this. It's already out there. Maybe I yes when is it co is called office ladies? I don't get it while it's on basically genetic each week. GonNa Re Watch an episode of the office and we're GonNA talk about Just a little trivia and our memories of that episode. It's kind of like hanging out in our living room watching an episode of the Office. And then we're also going to be talking about our friendship. I mean the other day we started off to talk about diversity. Day In general was like Angela. I did some daydream king. And I need to talk to you about it. Sounds like this is normally a role river conversation. She's like I had Rosa. I'm like Roseanne the afternoon. Hello my favorite. And she was like. I think I can't do it and I'm like no you just did it. I tell you the way. Don't help the third class baby girl have to. It'd be done gap. Yeah that is very exciting. I think that's going to be here now. I think it's really smart. You're starting a podcast with somebody that like you know and love close close friend yes. I do know that I went a different direction and started my podcast with a complete stranger. Oh well there's that. And so we all take different paths different paths. I think this is fantastic. I'm so excited to be here in Tony. There's just always one person. You gotta give crap in a room right and that not not not today. It's it's but also step up your name but also brings some stuff to the table. I will say this Tony. How such a kind face? I knew really that I could play around in that unites all time face. Because he's like I don't like that not just say this to you she does. She's several times by more than five. Sorry I have a nice. That's my curse. Is there anything you wanted to say to Angela? Oh this is. This is the kind of stuff that that Tony's sarcastic leader her just because years ago you and I were on a flight together. That's literally end of story. But I have been working miners. I offended you. Yes well where are we sitting like it was? I do remember it was the I had a layover in Dallas. And then I noticed. Oh that's that's Angela Kinsey. And then you got on the same flight as me and these are the kinds of stories. I was bringing it up as a joke. As if it would be a discussion and now I think it's very sweet. She goes into here. She goes onto polite mode. She southern not interest area sweet. I'm GonNa talk about later. This is hard he had home. He's like a pain places hard. Angela thank you so much for coming doing this role I thank you I come back. I'll get back. Hi My name is Sharon Comma. Andrea's mom comma. This is how I say but holds. I didn't I did enjoy the enthusiasm bubbles but I don't know do you. Did you feel comedic? Likely that the commas slowed everything down. No but it made everybody understand who this is how important I am in your life. I involved maybe it did clarify our relationship. I don't think it makes. It seem clear if you are important or not important you are important but I don't think that Senate People. A lot of people are not close to their mothers. Well I'll change it okay. Let's just don't go rogue with the scripts everybody else's following the rules. Mom thank you for coming back to the show. I know you've been getting a lot of positive feedback online. How would I know mom? Oh there's a couple of Nice comments you're the one who texted me saying people love me. Oh I was trying to do my inner turn Sally Shelly. World really liked the thirty year old reference. I don't think I caught that. You were excited. That people people said Nice things about you. They said you were very attractive. Very nice how are you with a costco? Do you need to? Are you going to need to do any trip soon? I was just stare. I asked you if you needed that was true. I did not but that was very sweet that you're running out of Colorado olives an olive. I've got a new bottle jar effect. I used some of the today a whole cup of it. You got another jar. I use a lot of Kalamata. My mother buys Kalamata Olives in a bulk size that you can't believe it's actually sold in that size. I told you and I played truce in ally and apparently I did not give our family's history correctly grandfather mom. I said that his brother killed him before he was born. No got to kill him. Kills His dad before he was born in. Some sort of dual. No he was he was killed by somebody else. I think he was shot and but it wasn't pious brother. I think he was. He was protecting. Some women's reputation is such a fake story. This is what I was told of course. I'd rather he told his brother and I don't know how he would know he said. Please take care of my son before my dad was born so like a Hamilton musical. I don't buy this. This is I was told us of. I'm not saying you weren't told this but it sounds a little too perfect. That the guy that you're that are my grandfather's dad was protecting a woman's honor and wish shot by some mysterious other man and as he lay dying. I asked his brother to take care of his unborn child. Yeah that's what I was told by a couple of people. So was it Lin. Manuel Miranda who okay. I can't I can't like all right. Mom Is there anything else that you'd like us to know or is there anything else while listening to the podcast that you've been concerned about have thoughts about Do you any comments that you constructive criticism or anything about the PODCAST. That things you like more things you like less. I don't understand why you had Jon. Hamm read your diary. I didn't have him. He did it. I didn't add him offer. No he asked if he could do it because my grandsons have listened. That's not my fault. That's my brothers. I'm very bad at my brother. I'm like why would you let them listen to that? And he he was like I couldn't stop them. I'm like your fucking father. Do you think she should be nicer to me? A no-brainer relationship delightful. It is delightful. What I'm going to read you something from Leslie Oles quits who went to a savage podcast dot com and centrist. An email at the end of her very nice delightful email she wrote. And for FUCK SAKE. Tell Tony to man up. He's influencing other listeners to think you're being mean to him I'm pretty sure he's a grown man should be able to handle a strong woman calling him out there. You Go Tony. Well you are a very strong woman my side or Tony Well. You are very strong woman when I was born with when you were born and that was kind of when women's Lib started to come in so my feeling was nothing is going to hold my daughter back And so I always had that attitude with you and I think going to an all girls school and all of that stuff made you a very strong woman. I agree and sometimes maybe a little too strong but okay we. We could have just left over the first part but I okay. So what does this island with Leslie? List telling Tony to man up because the poor guy album with such a strong woman the poor guy. Yeah but I think he mansa just fine. Yeah Leslie Tony. My mother thinks you man up just fine. That's all the validation. I needed all right getting protected. Jeremy Does Jeremy. That's all we ever hear in this house. I have dairy but Jeremy is fucking doing great as always it's delightful. I feel like maybe you're reviews aren't going to great from this one just letting you now okay. Cut out the bad part. Now I'M GONNA cut up the good parts and really take you down pack. We've been waiting for this anything you'd like to say to Mike Shinoda from your nipple. Because I might be seeing him next week. There's a little party in the classroom. So if there's anything what is he going to be there? That's what your nipple wants to ask. Yeah she'll show up just the one how you did say nipple. You didn't say apples but she's going to show up without her friend. Well she'll probably have to tag along mom. Thank you for being here. Do you WANNA give the buttonholes line one more shot. Do you have it? Without without the calmness. I would prefer without the comments but just get some new given a new flavor to my name is Sharon is. Here's how here's how. I say. Kay stumbled a little on that one. Let's try one more time. My name is Sharon and this is how I say but holes. I feel like that. That was the winner. Thank you mom.
Niccoles Self-Tapes, Jackies Possums, Daniels Vanderpumping
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Patriotic by anna q all sorts of fun stuff on patron weekly bonus episodes and i got a note from someone today saying that the daniel and me bonus episodes are during quarantine have been their favorite patriots perk. But really there's an array of perks. There's a level where you guys can text me. And i will text you. I've been doing it for a couple of weeks now. In fact someone on this show is the one who told me about the whole thing and it is very. I've been having a ton of fun. And i have to assume you guys are to zoom parties so much access to me. You'll beg me to leave you alone. Patriot dot com slash. Alison rose if you sign up for a year. You can get two months free. So it's twelve months for the price of ten. Why am i doing my infomerrcial. Qvc hard sell at the top. I don't know i'm changing things up. You guys were coming out of quarantine and shaking it up very excited. Also you can submit carbs. That i'll call you as you heard just moments ago. I am very excited to say hello to my guests. Jackie johnson. Hello hello. I get to go i i know yeah i just. I'm honored you know when i look at the screen. You're directly to the right of me. I know on everyone's screen. Were all kind of in a different spot. But you know fan favorite. Jackie johnson you get top billing. I'm okay with it. And i was probably the first person you admitted into the zoom. I was on time as was daniel. This was being discussed before we hit record. I don't want to get into it again. But there is some hierarchy in play. Everyone should know that the talks the discussions. The summit that we had ahead of time was probably better than this show is going to. I don't want to jinx it at all. But i mean the chemistry off the charts. The rapid pitter-patter rapid fire repartee people bringing some important things to the table. Good responses i mean. I feel like either. We already did our episode or it bodes well for this episode. What do you think jackie. I agree with that. And it's so nice to have daniel back in the mix. Well let's let's say hello to him. Daniel weird thing where. I started to talk without introducing. Everyone it's kind of it's fucked up. It's a power play on my part daniel. Hello i'm back again. welcome back. it's it's great. It's though is though. I never left does that. Does it really feel that way. I mean i'm talking about this chair. Never leave this jersey. Spend all day in a. If i don't know where you are. It's because you're in that chair. Well where am i going to go like usually you're in the garage but there's probably like four times in the past year. So yeah it's fun to be back. I feel like everything's loose. It's like i feel like everyone is still in quarantine but like kind of feels like maybe we don't need to be in quarantine but his kind of we're in this weird place right now. So it's like you're waking up from a asleep slowly or something but you're still a little bit of sleep. Yeah you keep hitting the snooze button. Let's get more into this. When i say hello to nicole thurman hello welcome back. Everyone loved you on my show the first time. Oh yea thank you. I'm glad to be back is to have you back. I have to tell you. I watched like one and a half episodes of call your call your agent or call my agent. Yes call my agent in comedy. Yeah i was super into it despite the warning you'd given me that it's a show that you you can't watch on your. You can't be looking at your phone at the same time. It's in french and then apparently i just couldn't do it anymore. I had to look at my phone. Yeah it's truly like you have to commit so much that especially because i never took french. I took spanish in. So i can understand spanish more and talion sometimes a little bit but if you look away if i look away during the french show i lose completely everything. So yeah that one you gotta you gotta really settle in and i tried to watch it like after like smoking a little bit of week. A couple like not is not going to happen because right. But then i started being like. It's so crazy that these sounds that they're making our words and they can understand them but it's like words are great and i was like you know what. Let me turn this off to you. Have to really like you have to really settle in and settled and like focus trouble. Yeah yeah that's a bridge too far from me and television. Sometimes i think so. I think a lot of tv especially within that legs. It just keeps playing and like so. Yeah you're just you're signing up to kind of just chill with it. Not necessarily stare at it so i got it daniel. How many times now have you seen the last episode of the third season of mister robot. Because all watch it. that's you know. That's sort of my weird quirk. Is that when something's on. I watch it but how when something's on show watch like a minute of it. I mean put aside the fact that she falls asleep. I understand she falls asleep. But there's i'm always like glancing over to if she's fallen asleep because either i'm going to stop it or just know where we were because we'll have to go back tomorrow but there's always a good chunk that she wasn't asleep but might as well for sure because she's on her phone doing something and with a show like mister robot or something. There's a lot going on it as well even though it's an intricate plot. Yeah i'll often just stop and look over and just be like d. Did you even see which happened. Yeah i fell. I fell off of mr by. I think it was a little bit too quiet for me. Because i was trying to look at my found we. We're not gonna came up with this one. It's going to have this. Let me say hello and welcome to the bad boy of podcasting. He called himself. That tony paxton. I welcome back home. i'm back in bed lookout. Consider yourselves warned people. I don't mean to call jackie. But she tried to say she was. The first one led into the zoom. Ben allison even talked about this with me. I'm always the first one you got me there. Tones boom tony. I was hoping we could let jackie thinks she was the first one led in your. I guess i meant the first one in that. Was it doesn't work here. I know. I know i just tried to call out the technicality. But i'm happy that you did that because people need to know the truth right and we all know that tampax brings the truth. That's right or as i'm calling him now. Tam vacs. that's good. Yeah why now. Just for nicole and daniel was there for nicole benefit. Why were we calling him. Tamp facts where we talking about tampons with him. No i just came up with as a nickname because this will constantly trying to come up with a nickname for me and yet kind of new bad boy of podcasting was right there. It would be obvious than you would. Just start calling me. We shifted about for so long looking for a nickname for you. There to the tone actually love that one bad to the town. That's pretty good too little musical for the musician. Yeah i need to get that guitar riff ready. Oh yeah use my soundbite. Now both yes that one to our collection also. Tony something happened. Oh i know. Daniel was reading something something from deadline and i was like you know what i'm actually from people who don't know deadline like reports people's show biz successes and other stuff but that's my mainly what i get out of it. Is that like. Oh this person just posted a swipe through on instagram and for them but anyway something you know. Someone isn't a sitcom now. And i said you know i really am happy for them. And then daniels started singing. Hurry for you. don't do you have that one. Oh yeah. I had no idea where that story was going when that started in original song. It was okay. It's an original diddy put together by the guy who formerly did all the music on my show. Tom rapp aka trap dog and the point of it. The purpose of it is to play it when something good happens to someone else that it makes you feel like. Hey what about me. would you experience often. Although i'm really trying to be better about all this stuff because someone's success is not your failure. No it's not a zero sum game. People have an attitude of abundance. But yes but but genuinely do feel. And i've talked about this his recent episodes. I've had some epiphanies of like. I just have to love myself enough and not be dependent on this external validation and i feel like making little incremental movements towards it but we can still enjoy the song. Oh yeah done something that i believe. You're getting goes smell. I sit here cutting through for. I absorb every day. I didn't mean to say you. And your i won't forgive me if i go. Yeah so anyway to go back to the tv stuff. So mister robot is a show that daniel and i have revisited because we fell off originally same with the americans and we also fell off the leftovers and save is the americans we had fallen off and then we we caught up last summer and finished it. So we're doing that with mister robot. Yes that's what i mean like. These are shows that we've been intending to to rewatch. But so anyway this one episode that daniels now seen we keep starting it at night and then i fall asleep and then plays so. It's like the tonight will be our fourth. Try in watching this episode. Did you know that that that we're doing that tonight. Because we are to see where it goes. I am okay with it though. Because i enjoy the show and there's lots of little things to it's what it's a show that i'm watching reluctantly. Wouldn't that's when it's painful when we're doing that but if it's a show i like i don't mind now. You guys might be thinking. What has he dragged her through that she didn't want to watch. What has she dragged him through the he didn't. Oh my god. I cannot get this out. What has alison may. Daniel watch. He didn't want to watch. I don't know because you're looking at someone who was very into below deck and daniel. I allowed to say the message board that you spend a lot of time looking at all my god. My new hobby place. Oh my god is the vanderpump sub reddit. God cool i love. I love the attitude of the folks on their spirit. Last thing i would have thought you right. You know what it is. It's like i feel like to vanderpump. Actors and quotes are dying for our sins. They are out there to be crucified. That is their purpose in life. That i can feel better about myself. They're not actors. You just meet people on the show with reality. Show the show. They're also failed actors Models come on their credit okay it in a lot of words you guys remember that website television without pity. No it was a while ago. Oh my god honey. We're on show with young people. Television without pity was an old website where they will do recaps of tv shows but there was a voice. There is a consistent voice to all the recaps. It was extremely snarky and very funny and i find that this sub reddit has a bit of that. You know to give us an example of a post. I'm just what does a sub reddit of a show have on it. Well a lot of it is just stuff. I don't care about but there's like a can i can honestly. I'm too embarrassed to talk about. Now i'll let you know what daniels inform me okay so stasi well married to. There's there's when you watch the show when you watch vanderpump rules you. There is so much being displayed in terms of the psychology these people. But it's it's like impressionistic. You're just like a sense of it and so but it's a strong sense for me. I'm watching. I'm like wondering if i'm right. Or how much of it is like just the manipulation of the producers and the ad it and what is happening. What happens on this celebrated is people do like deep dives into these people's podcasts and stuff and and then it's a lot of it a lot of the joy of it is going like i was right about this. Or oh that person was it like an example okay so starchy is married to this guy. Bo and daniel has let me know that the board discovered that he's declared bankruptcy three times. Okay okay so we stasi married this guy. Bow and the whole season that. I'm watching this guy i'm like. I'm getting a vibe. They're presenting him as a good guy like it's clearly edited in his favor. But i am getting a you know you just get that like. I don't know. I feel like being unfair to you. Know and as i've learned as i've gotten older i'm always right because turns out this guy. He's like it seems like shady as fuck like he's he's lied about big parts of his life. It seems i don't know according to this he. He's not even his real name. He's declared bankruptcy three times in his late like there's a lot of things bankruptcy three times after the second time they like. Hey buddy what's going on like yes. You're you've got one more. yeah now. This could all be totally wrong and unfair to him. I don't know but it's it's it just makes me feel better about my powers of perception and that's really daniela's presenting this like they're there to be crucified which i'm sorry. I don't sign on as someone who is in the public eye not in the same way at all. Don't agree with the bravo. Liberties i give have to be on some level re do reality tv at this point. It's like you know you're going to be like an asshole. They know and they make a lot of money doing other things on the side. And i have two friends on vanderpump roles do which ones by the way with areana. They're the only ones that i feel can do no wrong. Wow okay i like. I feel like they're the only ones that are saying especially arianna like she. It's almost like she's the same person in a crazy world. That's what i like. But i'm not saying that because they're your friends love l. I love that. What's i've known them. I've known them since before it was a show. They were literally just bartenders. It sir and they were like comedian. Like arianna is hilarious and we do like comedy videos together and stopped in. No that. And i've known them forever. They were at my wedding. My virtual wedding y'all rat. Oh that's so cool. They were winning two. Why didn't i go to gallery. View say this tomonori on a are like beloved on the boards to good no. They're they're truly. What you see is what you get can confirm very cool very down to earth zero ego funny great people. Tom shaves his forehead to exfoliating. What i would love to have tom nash view and talk about his skin care. I one yet. I've had already on. But honestly i bought some self. Tanner that he recommended. That's how yeah look at in particular. I can't get any sun i'll get. I already have skin. It's i have to do it. You guys stay beautiful danielle. Can you tell me which which self tanner it is. And then i'll put it in my amazon store. Amazon dot com slash shops slash. Alison rosen also in. that store. is the candle that jackie lit earlier. Last your heart. And you sold a good amount of these. Because i get tagged time. Your people get these. Yes people are an ira and tagged along. And i'm on my second one now. I bought this one from your store. Your answer what's the deal with the candle. Does it smell good or something. Yeah it just smells really good. It's their from there from texas. It's called tyler. Candle co i honestly don't know who owns it so i can't say it's a woman on brand or something like that tyler. Yes tyler owns it. But it's the around vanderpump It just really good. It's called bless your heart which is like a southern less passive aggressive phrase. I got it because of that but it is really nice to and did a whole bit with it on the show and then we talked about it and helen hong called the company. It was the whole thing. But it is part of the alison. Rosen laura now and it is a great candle light it every time i do your show i love it. Did you know helen. Hong sister had her baby her secret. Yes nicole helen hong. No she's median and an actor and she's been on she's on silicon valley and a bunch of stuff but she's also found the show a number of times and she told us that she was going to have a baby. And i was like what you've been hiding your pregnancy but then it turned out. It was her coy way of saying or maybe she said like a baby is coming to me. She said something but it turned out that she lives with her sister and her sister was pregnant. Now has had the kid like as of a couple of days ago the two of them live together and her sister decided to do it without a guy. So hence helen is kind of the de facto dad. But anyway it's very. It's very exciting. And so they live together and they're raising the baby together. Yes yes that's sweet. Yeah very sweet. By the way. Can i ask daniel. Is it loving tan. The one i got was just. I think it was clinic. He recommended to one. That's like that. Might be the loving tips like a foam. It's like when arianna. She said she only uses loving tan. This is a couple years ago. She might have left that brand. She's not letting tan anymore. Maybe not for men like facial. Self tanner on. Maybe i can't remember knows a while ago. But i think he said that it was really light and it wasn't like a super dark one in that i would say all my skin care advice from tom for sure because i look ridiculous when i put like the really think shaved his forehead. You're taking skin-care advice from do shaven as fort. His poll fred. He says it's the best way to is to shave. Dermot dermot planning is a thing. Okay dermot planning that. I'll accept that i- shaving a forehead sounds terrifying to me. It sounds like just the way to make your hair grow thicker. It's on the show that it shows him shaving his forehead. My favorite thing. Tom ever did was when he was naming his modeling poses. What was the one who is like. It's a look and it's like signing. Your eyes on is treasure in the distance. Yeah that's it and doing it. If you guys would lake nicole doing this pose. The video of this is a reward for patriotic people. Pay dot com. Slash house and rosen man poetry on such a hard sell from me today. What area wang ama- i know and i haven't even gotten to the other medical bills to pay or something A secret as i do need to circle back to something that came up on last week so we did a rousing rousing rendition of yes please. Or oh police. Internet still talking about it. They called when you were on. Yes no okay. I don't think so. This is where we come up with something. It's like something controversial and we have to say yes please our pauli's to it but the joke is it's never anything controversial but i always pretended. Is this actually so it was cobbler. And i was the one who gave it an oath polly. Yeah that's not true. Did you also plays it. Also gave it a no police. I've never actually had it so i. I opted for gone this long. So why not continue my toni. Braxton erasure on this episode has gone too far it's really flattering. I'm sorry tony. Such a bad boy at i timothy nervous and i forget what i'm saying. Anyway tony and i were the only ones who policed it. Everyone else was very pro cobbler and as it turns out. I think what i thought was. Cobbler was actually a crisp. If it's got oats and little bits of junk in there that's more of a crisp. a cobbler is like thank. You cobblers like a cookie dough kind of situation. And i think i would like that. I don't know if i've ever had a true cobbler. Yes it's like. It's like a pot almost pie crumbles right. I think so with it's like a. It's like a pie with no cover on it. They have like that hasn't been cooked all the way with a little mushy now see house. Ler we know did did that. Sound good to you nicole. Because that i think good i think that's good. Yeah i think it'd be into that does southern thing. Yeah yeah how bler. Let me see if i can find this because someone grasps have have topping which we saw the wikipedia description of cobbler shirk laid on us. Cobbler is a dessert. Consisting of a fruit or less commonly savory filling poured into a large baking dish and covered with a batter biscuit or dumpling. Before being baked dummy. What kind of savory cobbler like a mushroom cobbler. Are those like a pot of high. Yes it is kind but this sounded sorta like a pie. Like i said it's like a pie with no pie cover. But that's what i was saying to. The cover is like crumbled on top and cook on top. Yeah that'd be. The crust is not on the bottom. It's on the top. Yeah which is good. I think that'd be good. Yeah instead of being like soghi and dense it's lighter and a biscuit here tweeted something that someone sent me from forget. We'll see what cookbook. It's from american classics and it lists. I mean there's so many there's a buckle cobbler a crisp crumble a grunt a dowdy. A plate cake shortcake. We're living through doughty. I don't wanna. I don't wanna eat it for the joke. I love them all. Okay so let's talk about what we're talking about before about how we're like in this limited zone between everything being opened up and letting letting the mascow and resuming in person stuff like i you know. I'm vaccinated. I believe everyone i know. Most people i know are actually. I only know of one person a friend of my mom's and she refuses to get vaccinated and her justification is very curious but i assume most people are vaccinated. So really we could probably do in person recordings again but i just. I've gotten used to this. I don't know. Where are you guy. But i did go on a coffee date with someone. We sat outside recently. Where are you guys with how much you're doing in person how much you're still doing remote. I'm i'm i'm pretty deep back into the world. I've been to a party. I went and stayed at hotel. I ate inside with a bunch of people everywhere. You know you sort of want to slowly Acclimate you set rules for yourself. But sort of like a threesome. Once you're in it all rules kinda go out the window get really excited and into it. Sort of what's happening with me. I just i was shaking hands and hogging people and was like never happened. Was you know one of your rules. Like only one time and then all of a sudden everything's filled. Yeah yeah yeah or like. You're not allowed to do this to that one or right. Suddenly it's just body parts everywhere. So i'm saying is just get into it and get there. Were some again one. He's just like a cloud of smoke with arms and legs poking out of it. Yes yeah. Although i'm still recording remotely but more. So because i keep interviewing people not in l. a. And i don't have a studio so that's five leading inside. What was that like. Was that nerve wracking at all. Like why am i had known. Aided i yeah that's the thing i think it's just like you. We're are vaccinated so we just have to do the things that i've been going kind of a person by person basis because i like the other day friend and i we were sitting outside and then she's sitting far apart for me and she's doing the elbow instead of a hug. And then i go see somebody. And i hug them. And we're right next to each other and it's like it's kind of just like some people are just not comfortable or still kind of wary. But i think for me. It's like if i go somewhere in. Someone's wanna come in and have a coffee or whatever. Sure i don't. I wouldn't think twice about it because that's that's what we're vaccinated. It should be okay right right but some people are still uncomfortable for various reasons trauma. I was over at a friend's house the other day. Picking something up and she was like. Can you please wear your masks. I'm gonna wear my master's like sure. Yeah it's it's kind of like whatever like when i'm walking i wasn't wearing. I just wanna walk. And i didn't wear a mask and i felt so weird because you don't want people that they care like of free that does it still but it's it's it's we're supposed to be able to do it so i kind of i kind of have to carry my mouth your arm near earth multiple states. That haven't required masks this whole time. The whole damn town. It's we are so careful. Yeah and i think a lot of people that are fly. Because i'm to fly for the first time in like a year and a half and a lot of people that have been traveling they'll go to like texas and never happened. I mean it's just a different different situation completely. But yeah i'm i'm glad we were all worried and paranoid and i'm glad i never got ovid's so i'm glad i was safe but now i feel like i i wanna be able to feel like i can live life again a little bit more normally Nicole have you eaten inside a restaurant. i don't think so i don't think inside but i'm also i like eating outside. I don't mind it I was walking today. And i saw some people eating inside and i was like and then i remembered your body has the natural you know right. I assumed that it was fine. But and i think i've mentioned this before. Our pediatrician said in kind of an offhand way. A couple of months ago but after everyone was already vaccinated she was like it's going to be a long time before i eat inside in a restaurant again and then jessica malati rivera. Who is one of the leading a i. Don't she's action epidemiologist but she was on alley wards show talking about infectious virology. She's a covert expert and she also said that she wouldn't wouldn't be comfortable eating inside a restaurant for a while. And i i d m her and i asked doesn't the do you not feel the virus protects you and she's like it has less to do with that than what's going on in the community. Which again. I didn't quite understand. But i didn't want to push it because she's a busy important person and i was happy that she backed me at all. But i'm just as i'm thinking maybe it just means that like maybe she and also the art. Maj- our pediatrician feel like they want to set the right example. I don't get it because if you're if you're vaccinated it should be. Okay well. is it weird. Because if people are all at different phases in their vaccination. I mean it's pretty effective from the beginning but maybe they mean some of that. Maybe people all the people who are still refusing to give accident is shutting virus shedding not sitting in a giant crowded restaurant. Yeah they're still distancing them and not letting many people in and all that stuff. But right. And i'm not doing it all the time a couple of times and it was very weird. Jackie you're interested right now. Yes chilies in encino. Seaplane with all the balls in the play pin yes. I went in the play pin and swam in the ball and linked. I licked a lot of them. I do video the other day that dip blow of people posted on tiktok and there was like it looked like spring break. But i don't know what it was that everybody was squeezed in so tight and it was a hundred of twentysomethings. I'm like okay. We're going to be a minute before. That was happening away all of last year. On tech video of jason derulo at a restaurant full restaurant. What had masks on. I'm like what are y'all doing man. Truly i read the. La is actually going to unlike the rest of the country l. As one of the few places that will probably get herd. Immunity community won't be possible for a large part of the country. because there's still too they. They haven't reached a certain level of vaccination. You have to hit you know. I don't know what it is seventy eighty percent or something like that But in la because everybody cut vaccinated We are even though we were really bad. Back in december you know when things are really bad right now. Were doing great. That's still to me how bad it was. And now how are we couldn't the best became the and ask everybody there. Were people waiting in line for standby for hours and hours and hours like we were like. We want that shit. I had like hardcore vaccine. Fomo when people were saying at first i was like. Why can't i get them back. So yeah it was like everybody wanted that shit for sure. It's like waiting for brunch and cheesecake factory at the grove. It's like not even their jainal hospital that brunch shit. Okay i gotta check out that. Brush your long waits there for dinner. Went to daniel. And i went there with My sister and her husband. I don't know three or four years ago and they give you the little coaster that buzzes. Yeah and i feel like it was like an hour and a half. Wait oh my three for the is it the one of the grow. Yes yeah. that's the that's the hotspot say. Did you feel cool working there. No no i worked there in two thousand and six so this was quite some time ago. Did you have to wear the all white like. Oh yeah oh yeah i think. Piece of cheesecake walking down the hallway. Why why don't white on white on white api handling food. That's how they do right makes no no. That's what i was gonna say. I've never quite understood the all white around food. I briefly briefly worked at a coffee place inside a food court and it was a great few days but then the job i really wanted at sam goody for people who don't remember that was a music store opened up and they stole me from the coffee place called coffee emporium i think it might have been so apologies for i mean i pulled a real millennial like i don't know anything to this place of employment thing and i'm gen x. I kind of invented a terrible employees when you think about it but anyway they had an all white thing as well but there's coffee grounds getting all over me. This seems insane. Danes cleanliness though it signals that sterility and people feel like there's not a bunch of filth that's been doctors wear white coats around like comet and fluid lunchtime. Yeah but i was just thinking the other day. When i used to work at a restaurant and we would wear black. We have to wear black slacks because it was kind of a fancy whereas and when i would walk back to my car at the end of the shift might black shoes and my black pants were especially like the lower parts. Were just spattered with food just spattered with filth you know. I mean if if i had to wear white it would have been extra shitty because i've worked. I've waited tables at a lot of places. The most corporate place i've ever worked as cheesecake factory. If you have one tiny little barely visible stain on your apron which by the way is floor length. When you get there they will make you buy a new apron. Oh you've not cheap. I don't remember how much they are. But you have to dry clean everything and you have to have creases down your your sleeves and down your apron and down your pants you have to. You have to iron everything of your trump creases. They'll make ten you home your fire. Wow she's got cheesecake factory with empty theory. That branch day are horror standard. I will say they give you really good health insurance. After six months. That doesn't give health insurance. So lisa vanderpump. What's the restaurant that restaurant sir. Is that still the spot. Oh they have multiple restaurant now okay. I don't follow the vanderpump b.'s. don't get into it. get into it reality person. I just can't do so comfortable. Due to restaurants normally provide health insurance or was that like a special thing. She's cake factory down. I mean not to my knowledge. I think that was my first job in california. Waiting tables in texas barely even get paid. You get literally thirty cents an hour. Oh wow and it's all ten and here. You got minimum wage on top of tapes. And i was like i'm frigging rockefeller over. I was like blown away by that. I you know. I like to think. I'm gonna observant person except sometimes i'm really not but i never noticed all the creases but i think on a subconscious level. It just really must have played into the ambience. Yeah the experience yes exactly. My cheesecake factory experience create an experience. The one in the grove has an escalator inside. It doesn't it yes it does. Don't like that. No offense to your former place of employment. Oh i'm with you. I don't wanna mess prefer could it. Could it be one level a staircase. Actually i mean. There isn't staircase option but escalators. Front and center. It's like i gotta get to choose an elevator to. They've got every option. I just feel like you walk in. And you're right in front of you. S industrial giant basket. I wanna person pulling up to yes. Holy them and poli dumpster. I wanna i wanna be in a dumb waiter but what is called the cheesecake factory. I feel like they could add some factory. Element ryan assembly line. Giving yet a widening. We should pitch this placing glove on a bottle laverne and shirley. That's what they do. Yes yes By the way dumb waiters they were. They held a special place in my imagination as a child magic about a dumb waiter interesting and cheesecake. Factory all the waiters are smart. What we'll get have to because then that menu like fifteen pages memorize menu fifty something page. It's it's if you have to remember that menu you're going to. You're going to have some serious brain. Power could never do that. Got joke failed miserably. I sorry so bad. No one even acknowledged as opposed to dumb waiter really smart. Okay good since we have. Jackie host match butte. And we got three gals on. I think we need to have a little gal. Chat conversation chats nicole. You posted a photo of your hair and it looked so good and it looks so good. Tell us about the do my hair. Oh let's see. I got a haircut fairly recently And i have. I just never do my hair anymore. Because it's like there's no need to. I never wear makeup. I never do my hair. And so every time i do i feel like i have to say something about it. And if yesterday i had to make an audition tape again after. Like everytime on your. I'm talking about this. But so i did my hair and i was late day. My hair looks good. And there's literally no one that's going to see this. So then i post it on the internet for the i understand. It's got a haircut. That's all i'd like literally have worn my hair down. I think once or twice since. I got my haircut so i was like. Let me see what it looks like yesterday. So auditions are still. Do you think people will go back to impersonal additions. I really hope that they do. Because i want to. I don't want to be an actor more. Is this so much work so much work and it's like the auditions extra long. This one was eleven pages. That's insanity like it's just a lot of work. It's a lot of lake lighting sound. My computer never wants to upload anything so everything takes forever. It takes me out and hours and hours not to mention. I'm just a perfectionist. So i would keep taping over and over and over again like get stuck in this like obsessive weird area so yeah. I'm hoping that they go back to being import in person soon. Eleven pages of people. Yeah do you have someone reading the other part. Sometimes i do and sometimes i also have these like this app that reads like the other lines for you mentioned that. Yeah that's really helpful. But yeah it's it's a lot jay. Have you been self taping. Yeah but i don't have a ton of auditions for for people with a ton i know. It has been a different bag but for me. I'm like. I don't want to drive the sony lot and park and schlep in the heat and get there and my audition. I sock and ruin it and i walk home going back to texas buck. This one school. I don't have to do any of that. I just do it in my house and do it until i like it. Yeah i don. it's allow. i used to love him. I really did. Because i that was i the same way like i was like i want to have control over it and get it perfect but now i'm just burned out. I think on it to me. It's like when you have someone to interact with not a friend but like a casting director. You're like someone is seeing this. Someone is seeing me and someone is seeing what i can do. Even if it's not what they want it just feels very like it kinda starts to feel like a little empty when you're just doing take advantage. I hope somebody and it's not gonna be me so again. I'm already part of the problem. They need to pass a law in the screen actors. Guild where you can do three pages and if you want more you gotta pay eighty. It's and so they. Everybody does it three. And then they'll narrow it down to like ten people and they go okay now please. State or whatever. It's just bullshit to make everybody do because they're only going to be watching like ten seconds. Yes and so. that's the problem is just. You're an end if you were going to auditions in person. A lotta times. They sometimes they would make you memorize all ten pages. But then they're like we're going gonna do the first scene when you get annoyed by that but at least you know you're only doing and then they go thank you. oh great. i should have gone to law school. i know i'm just. I'm burnt so yeah. It's not talking about here though. Sorry the okay. We that was just really the entree into talking about additions. Bouche bob isn't there something where actually you are supposed to get paid if you're at in addition for longer than a certain amount of time there yeah right to our but no one really enforces on commercial. They do. And i've gotten paid for that and it's pretty sweet. I'm yeah but it's not honestly it's not worth. I'm sitting in the lobby for two and a half hours. I'm pretty pissed off. I don't really care about the dollar. Check that i get for it or whatever but they pay for it because i understand calls on call bax you can do it on first calls but the casting agent pays and then they'll never call you back again. Own second calls production pays for it. I always sign out on second calls. Oh right that's what i had heard that like. You're you're making people not like you if you do it so it must be the first ones so they take advantage of us. He ended up themselves. And that's the thing truly. I'm just at this point where i'm like. You can hate me if you want. But i'm to be loud. And i'm not mean just can't be quiet writers rooms if i don i'm like you guys have to hear my voice. I'm so sorry. Like i can't not say something. Really take advantage of people we can we talk about. I in hollywood. That's other hollywood i know. Can we talk about you having to speak up more. Because like i suggested earlier. That's something that i've been working on. And i feel like i've actually gotten better recently but i have spent my life being hesitant to speak up and imagining. What will happen if i do and not wanting to be. I don't want him to be too much not wanting to be seen as rocking the boat not wanting to make someone want to retaliate. I i don't even know like afraid of bound shadow kind of yeah. I mean i feel like a lot of people are i have realized and i talked about this a lot. Mother pissed that. I that a lot of people feel that way and i never really because i don't necessarily get it but it's not because i'm judging it's bad it's i think i think there's positive qualities to being able to like shut the fuck up sometimes and just like kind of deal with something. That might not be perfect. But i yeah. I don't know. I think i've always just been like it's hard for me till a not speak out but sometimes it's sometimes you don't want to be the only person complaining like if i have something going on in my apartment building i feel like i'm always the first neighbor to call the landlord and say something and sometimes i'm like i don't wanna be that i because i don't want to be the first and that people think of like a pain in the butt but also the stuff gets fixed and then everybody's happy and so it's like you know what am i gonna do not say anything. I don't know i can't do it. I need more of that. I feel like it's something that it's like once you if you worry less about the consequences of what's going to happen in life with everything you can do a lot more in general. I think i it was acting with whatever it's like if you go into a room being like i'm not going to book i mean you. The odds are you're not going to book at anyway. But it's like if you go into the room being book this then. You probably won't do as good of a job as if if you go in without expectations of what's going to happen you're going to have more fun and work more. Maybe so you've so you've always felt comfortable. I i think i don't know why it's just. It's just really hard for me to sit on my hands. I think it's weird and i. I tried to sometimes. Because i do think like sometimes it's hard because it's like you. Sometimes you want to be someone that people want to work with and and you know not everybody. A lot of people like people who go with the flow all the time and i so i tried to go with the flow for the most part but i do think if something's really bothersome. If a script is being written in something is horribly outdated or racist or the scientists. Are you know i have to say i have to say something. Even if other people don't because i think a lot of people also they get trained by this industry to kind of like chill and be like. Well what can we do. But it's like you actually can do a lot if you just make a little noise. Yeah that's great. Jackie were you with all this. I feel like in my more mature age. As i've gotten older i've gotten definitely a little more outspoken but i also took a lot of. I definitely didn't speak up for a very long time. Because they create this desperation the app they create this environment where they're like if you say something you're out so much that you know and i i mean if the kardashians for commercials are did at any point in your career then you know they are wild and they will ask you to do the crazy. Shit that will hurt you injure you. Have you park five miles away and like unknown. Tell only zone. It's just you're the bottom of the barrel rolls and they just literally spit on you and you're supposed to go. I'm so grateful to be here. You know and so. I've put up with a lot of crazy shit but i don't put up with it anymore but i also don't say i don't speak up a lot kind of i'm between you two. I would say yeah. I think i think i still take a lotta crap. Because there's just a lot of crap like normally i would be like. I'm not doing eleven page audition. Why are we doing this. I don't want to. If i really was speaking of all the time but this is a lot of crap that you have to deal with but yeah i do think because they try to create that environment of like if you want to do it. They're fifty people behind you and your that's fine but you heard me so i think you want me to do it and so let's just try to make it work. So yeah it's it's it's definitely ought to be a little bit of a mix because sometimes it's just the commercial is going to be insane. You're gonna have to dance. People are also being like. I have a friend who went on a went on a set and they were not following over protocol and so she spoke up about it and they that whole casting office literally blackballed her. Wow louise and people are petty and our business you racist you take a risk when you speak up and it's business where you can just not. You can be blacklisted. And not know it. You can just like yeah. I don't know what you're not getting. You know what the opportunities are that you're not being given in so there. That creates a lot of fear of speaking up or doing anything to you know. There's so many things that people haven't talked about in this business because nobody wants to be that person and because all of a sudden i'm just not working why is that. Yeah i think the kids call it shadow banning well. Yeah it's definitely shadow banning. It's definitely blacklist it. I mean yeah it does happen and it's like you don't want to be someone that gets blocked because you like asked for water in your dressing one hundred degrees but it's like yeah it's like i mean but i i do think there's levels to it i think there's like asking for basic human respect and then there's some people who and there's people like you said. You never know quite how to what's going to happen. Basically we're saying. Hollywood is a great place really stable career. I always tell my mom like whatever you expect. 'cause my mom's always like but we didn't they do this or this and like yeah that's the logical way. This is the entertainment industry. They do it the way. That's like a pain in the butt for everybody but certain people or whatever this is going to be. This is interview. We'll get me black listed all the casting directors listed. They're all listening and they're like they ever again. I want to know from the dudes. Hear how you feel about speaking up not necessarily in the realm of like in entertainment other tony you have all your your rockstar experience. But just in general if it's if it's kind of automatic for you to use your voice when something bothers you but i i need to talk about pros. Jackie do you know pros. Do you have pros on your show. Who is custom haircare. I excuse me i mean. Shampoo was part of a jackie. But to say it's just shampoo would be selling it short. You've got your pre shampoo treatment. You got your ship your conditioner. Now they have lieven conditioner. They have an oil. I am on my third round of custom. Hair care from pros and i've done three different sense. I love them all you. You do a questionnaire. A quiz not a questionnaire quiz on their website. I love a quiz and it's very detailed. It's like how long has your hair they have. 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Because there's there's also so many producers and something sometimes that you know that thing that people do where they just want to feel important so they like give you some feedback and for no reason and you're just like stupid. Why are you saying this. And like i literally the scenarios where the guys like. What did you try. Something then tells me what to do. And i go okay and then i just continued to do what i was doing and then afterwards he's like yeah. I think that was better dip shit. There's there's a lot of that kind of stuff. I mean there's great producers out there. It's not they're not all like that but there's a lot of that. Have you always had that confidence like even when you guys were starting out The i don't think so. I think maybe a little bit. But i think it it grew in time i think but yeah because i think when i was younger i just didn't i don't know i didn't really think about it at all. Just sort of did it and Yeah just didn't put that much thought into it right kenya what about you. I mean i'm just trying to think of scenarios where that would be relevant. I don't think i have a problem speaking up. I think the only time. I do would be when i'm in a new environment where i don't know the rules of the maybe this i dunno like or if or or something new to me i might hold back and i but yeah for the most part i. I don't have a problem speaking up. Do you feel like you have a problem. Speaking up to me sometimes marriage cup. I mean what do you mean by that. Well i think the exception to what i was saying about myself before about being nervous to bring stuff up is in my a family of origin and with you it took me a while to get there with you but like with people that i trust and i feel comfortable with i as soon as i feel something i express it often so i think it's. It's just that the people that i have that level of comfort with it's hard for me to achieve that level i am. I am not being that articulate. It's hard for me to get to that point with a lot of people. So i think daniel with you. I do let you know if something's bothering me. But i think sometimes you are more hesitant to let me know because you want to. I don't know because you're afraid of well. I wasn't thinking in terms of like relationship or in terms of professional or just social generally but yeah maybe like in a relationship i might be. I've gotten better and that's something that we've worked on which is to communicate Early when things are bothering you so that you have the opportunity talk it out as opposed to letting it fester. i think. sometimes. I'm still hesitant. Because i not because i don't feel like i have the right to speak up so much as it's like. I worry that there's a part of my thinking that worries that. I'm not being fair that i'm not fully. I haven't thought it through enough. I sometimes don't want to bring things up until i've had time to reflect on what it is that i really feeling that's interesting and sorry to squeeze into the couple please. That's why you're here. We le- interesting. Because i think there's something that happens. A lot in relationships with men where the a man wants to like to analyze it and think through it more before speaking and so sometimes and women and women are more apt to just be like telling you what they're thinking in that moment and then when it's like why don't you just tell me support. It's like because they wanted to like parse it out before coming to you with it whereas in a work situation or professional situation. It's probably more. It's probably easier to just be like no play it this way. No do it. This way to men operate differently like fascinating yet easier for women to say like you're pissing me the fuck off to their boyfriend than it is for them to say you're pissing me the fuck off to their manager at cheesecake factory in work situations. There's no it's not loaded. it's like for me anyway. You're just talking about business. Everything's business so it's just you know whereas in a relationship you know it's emotional and it's fry and there's like the stakes are higher so i just wanna make sure that oftentimes i'll be like especially after having a kid where you know when they're young and you're not getting enough sleep mean so often. My feelings are just basically the fact that. I haven't slept in three days or three months and i might be really angry about something and then in the back of my head. No what i'm angry about is not real. I'm feeling irritable. Because i'm under slept and if i were to say something to you about it it would make it. Seem like it's a real thing that you need to somehow address when i know it's not real i just need to get some fucking sleep. Yeah but i feel like there's a way that both there's a way that both can be true. Which is to say like to acknowledge. I know that this might not be legit. But this is how i'm feeling because i feel like yet we've we've talked about that which is like now now. What happens is i will. I will establish ahead of time like first of all the other day. I told you when i i go. I don't know what's going to happen today but just know right now. I'm under slept. And i'm feeling irritable and it's not personal i might so i'm just like laying the groundwork but yeah i will often say like i don't think this is. This is probably not fair. I'm feeling whatever blah blah blah but this bothered me and your and part of it. Is you learning how to hear that you know and so it's not just me getting comfortable enough to share it. It's it's the or vice versa. But it's the other party feeling comfortable enough to hear it without you know in the in in the right state of mind like you know if i say. Hey i'm i'm i haven't slept in a week But this thing you did really bothered me. But i don't think that that's real. You could take it like. Why are you so mad and get really defensive and start to like take you know or you could go. Yeah you're right. It's not fair like see you know telling me you know and and just like not not meet at a super intense level. I always react appropriately and kindly thing about me is that i'm always like emotionally healthy. And just just knock it out of the park each time speaking of feelings. I'll tell you guys about field. Cbd isn't about what you feel about what you don't feel stress anxiety pain etcetera feels is a premium. Cbd that will help to keep your head clear and fill your best. It's hassle-free delivered directly to your door. Cbd naturally helps reduce stress anxiety pain and sleeplessness. 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A ghost is going to turn the garbage disposal on and mangle my hand because statistically i think it will happen at some point in my life right when people read jesus say to the internet. I love it this is. I feel like very this to be very common. I'm constantly afraid of that. What did oh when we used to wash our dog in the sink and like compare like sometimes like their paw will go down. We'll accidentally go down into the disposal and even though the the switch was like not right there. I was always super afraid of somehow a ghost turning it on. Yeah there's something weird. I don't know if it's happened in too many movies or what. It is every time. I put my hand in there. I'm like that eventually. Something happened and a lot of people were saying that they won't even reach in there without unplugging it first because it's going to happen and it's like that thing doesn't turn on randomly when we're just living our lives but if for some reason when you put your hand in it i just assume at one point i will be mangled. What's funny though. I don't know even one person who's lost a finger this way or has been harmed. Anyone who was hurt by a garbage disposal just knows all around and yet do we. Do you guys have this fear. Jackie do not necessarily of a ghost. But if i have to stick my hand down there i will quadruple check. I will look at the switch. I will stick my ear down and make sure it's not all i will make sure i'll check out the general area. Make sure nobody's going to sneak up on me and hit the button and ghost. But i am very nervous. The joke element of it. Don't really believe in god like no. It's not just some kind of congress. Plummet from being an energy. It's going to do yes. Yeah we don't even have a switch and electric disposal anymore. we have. Maybe it's electric. But no i don't know switch. We have a button. It's an it's my old place had a button. It's an air gap it so it's like you have to push it down. I don't like it because it collects water inside it and then it gets. That thing i hate is the smell of stand water. That's been sitting there for too long and it always like i refuse to put my naked finger. I refused to press the button with that. I have to like watt up a towel and present with that because otherwise that gross smell will get on my finger so i miss having a switch. It's on the side of the sink. You push it in the. Yeah the front of the sink like the front right corner of the sink. It's a button that you but it's not like an elevator by give it a push at probably a little bit safer because it can't accidentally on. Yeah yeah but then your hand will smell tony. You've been awfully quiet do you. Do you love the idea of getting mangled by disposal. Though i've been i've been I've been given a lot of And yes okay. Yeah same thing right. Yeah very similar to a jackie said constantly just looking at making sure nothing is going to happen. Yeah all right. Let's see what i have one. Yes okay because you know. I keep a list. I didn't know that but yet ready for your show. I love that. Yeah i have to. I don't have to say them both. I would won for next time. I wanna hear both okay. The first one is. I don't know the difference between a possum and no possum are the same thing are they not. I don't wanna google. i refused to google it. Am i the only one with this issue. I always just thought they were the same thing pasta. I know they're not the same thing. Honey didn't we recently go through this there. One is like an australian. So they're not as saying they're not they're not know interesting. How stupid i. I thought it was like a regional thing. Where someplace that they say. Oh possum another because cats. Yeah yeah that's interesting. don't en- dog nut. Yes on the on the note of possums. I was at a bar a few weeks ago outside and my friend. And i were sitting there and we by the we were kind of near trash cans and we kept thinking that we saw a rat. And which is gross. But you know it's outside and trash so what you do and then we keep seeing it and then suddenly we realized that's not a rat that is a baby possum realized. Baby possums are adorable. Yeah there was a baby. Oh possum are a baby possum. This was i think this was straight up possum. Yeah i think so low. Possums they don't have locally. Is that what it is daniel. Because i know okay i have seen. I have seen the australian ones in person. I always just thought that. I didn't realize that was. Oh possum that i just thought they were actually like different kinds. Possums australia or possums. Possums are irish. Wait what oh yeah got it. The ones in australia are much cuter. I think overall too is there's a park i forget what city was that. I was in but some city when you walk through at night. And there's just a ton of them and they're adorable. I've never been to australia as someone who's favorite book. When i was in grade school was k. Is for koala. And i checked that out. From i mean i should have just bought it outright. If that was an option because i just kept renewing that book. I read it so many times. I've always wanted to go to australia. is i would love to go to is it all. It's cracked up to be tony. Here's what i will say it's nice at. I think i've only been on tour. And i think that's a very different experience than if you were to. Actually just go on a vacation there. Because when i go on tour i'm just in the major cities and it is the furthest away from home i've ever been and it's the most at home i feel like i just kind of feel like i'm in southern california with accents. Wait that now now. I don't wanna go anymore. You're in southern california. What did you say. You're from southern california. Well i mean. That's why i was gonna say though is because i. I love australians. And i always get along with them really well and i think of them as like mid westerners but they're from australia for some reason they just have the same energy to. Tony is mid western. That fly as i where you from home. Because because i that's what i always think of them as midwestern of the world. The people are nice. I've had a good time there but yeah it's just again. I think if you went on a trip and you're more like if you actually go see like nature in the outback and things like that. That's gonna be a much different than just going to sydney. And and but that's the problem. It's like what you do australia. There's like a big rock an opera house surfing but just spiders. We're gonna get letters. There are a lot of spiders. There's a lot of things to do. There's also a lot of nothing because it is the the middle of australia's just like just they out back my. You're ready to go jackie. i'm ready. I got the i got the language rather go to new zealand. Yeah i've never gotten to go. I hear it's great though. Is that the new zealand where they have the hobbit town the really cool. I'd like to see that all right. Jackie o your second. Okay just mere everyone. If you scroll instagram right before you go to sleep random acquaintances that you follow end up in your dreams cameos. You're like why is that guy did improv. With dream with a random cameo role like a walk on under five as we said. And i'm like. Oh because i looked at instagram right before i went to sleep. You're right. I never put it together but yes that has happened to me. Yeah my social media in the middle of the night is. I got stopped doing that. It's check it in the middle of the night. I do check it on pop out of bed at two thirty and then to start scrolling no pop out of bed i go to the bathroom. Sometimes i get a snack. And then i check my phone on the way back in you get a snack at two thirty in the morning. I have an alter ego not to thirty. That's too early. It's more like true middle of the night. I have an ultra ego we have named her nibbles mcgee. It's running running joke on the show. Although i actually feel like from a cognitive behavioral standpoint perhaps giving this part of myself a name is not great. Because then it's like i'm accepting this and i really don't want to be this person but yeah i'm like my eating is all fucked up i am. I basically don't eat at all during the day. And then i just undo the the the control during the night not always in fact daniel. I'm looking forward to your mom coming to visit us again because she sleeps on the couch in the living room. And then i'm like why can't go. I can't be a possum. that was out the. Oh yeah i can't go. I can't be a raccoon in the middle of the night with a respectable human being standing guard. So it's really. It's really great if we set up a live webcam in the kitchen we in the whole world could change on watching him get work except that there's a lady on tiktok. Nicole might have seen. I think as lee walks in films it on cameras and posts it and it is. Why old on kinds of crazy stuff. But she get stuff out a cabinet to dropped them. You know move stuff around goes into full. Conversations sees things i mean. It's really wild. we'll turn. I'm not on tiktok but i feel like i need to get on tick. I have no idea just comes across my for you page asks. Have you seen it. I've seen. I've seen it once. People were in the comments trying to figure out if she was real or not like a cheese. No it's real real it definitely. Yeah yeah. I'm not only all i do on tiktok mostly as lurk and it's really nice i kind of enjoy it. It's so fun. It's so much better than instagram. it's just so it's like it just feels more less presentational. It's just like random shit the only thing that's presentation on tiktok is couples. There's so fake. I cannot stand that but on my page. They're just like oh and break. Oh my husband. Would i call him by his name instead of calling him baby. And it's like are you kidding me. The woman's like hey greg. And he's like what. You're calling me. Greg that kinda give me a break it all the way to like look at our perfect life in a way. That's very obviously trying to heart. So yeah but other than that tiktok as the bomb. I think it's fun. It's fun if that's my that's my late night when i'm going to bed and then i asked him stay up way too late. Yeah just watching. I don't really. I follow people but i kind of just like watching strangers video says to addicting. I had to get rid of it. Oh yeah. fyp knows me better than my parents know me. It's really does if you'll figure out real quick what's fyp the for you page. You just randomly shows you stuff. It's pretty inch wanted to instagram reels. Except love it. How do i know what i was on that. For a second and then daniel was like the the tiktok has all sorts of security issues. We gotta get off probably true. Probably truly it is true but then on the other hand. It's like it's everyone already. I mean they all did bell. Have your information. I have a theory that there's someone with my whole life in other parts of the world that because they got it from the internet. And i'm like that's fine. I don't care experience of account for like back. In the summer i would log. I would i'd get to net flicks and the recommendations were all like these asian american shows and which is okay but why it would be like continue watching. It would be a whole bunch of stuff like we asian-american just it would. It was all from different language but some of it. Whatever just a whole broad range of asian asian stuff. let's just say and we thought that maybe owen our little like two year old had been gotten a hold of the remote and was just like fultz and around but then i was so sick and by the way netflix. Never gotten it right. You say the page gets right. Networks does not know me at all. Never liked him as well as his dad like but net flicks like their shit on netflix. That i would love that. I have no idea is on netflix. That's all i'm going to say about that. Well you're burying the lead. Though of what so then. So i found out how to clear the algorithms based a lot on what you've watched so i was like i i can't anymore. I need to like so went into their website to clear it out and there are all these loggins from indonesia. I'm like oh that's what's been happening. Someone got my some person in indonesia got my somehow my net flicks account. And that's why it's not like owen or some glitch. It's literally somebody watching shit on my account so i had to delete everything and start over. But now it's recommending a whole bunch shit. I've already seen netflix. Does not like click already seen it right. That's good you. i think. I don't think you can give it a thumbs up thumbs down and i think that takes it as that you've seen it. Do they still have that though. I thought they i mean i'm this on net flicks. Let's just say that down on netflix. Is that a thumbs down. It looks like a sideways. So you're saying oh police honestly it is sideways because they have a couple of the crown. Has anyone here used the peacock app yet now. But i wanna to watch girls. Yeah i love grow. I literally bought peacock. Because i've watched the pilot and i said i need to see the rest of it is incredible however the app is slow in glitchy and non the design to it. But i do love girls five. Ever what are what are you using a peacock on my television which is an android tv. Okay yeah because i run it through the playstation and it's the same thing and i thought maybe it was just the playstation but apparently. That's so nice to know because i was thinking. Oh my tv socks. Or whatever but i so much slower than all the other apps. And i've heard it's really not yes. It's a shame you're the bravo app was like that. So i love surprised. Don't judge me. I'm just trying to bravo head. I love that. I know i refused for so long. And then this one over here she. What did we start with vanderpump. I was like. I'm not watching that. You were like what is this. I don't know it's the show with tan people who yell at each other. But i can't stop watching it even though i don't know who they i can't i confuse them very entertaining to me. I'm sorry people love it so successful but anyway daniel. The turning point was and i caught this on my phone. And i made instagram story. So you were watching one day and you laughed. I remember that. I think i got hooked when Actually it was. Tom was what was he was pleading with ariana to go to vegas with the guys because they were going to have a bunch of bulldozers was like what it was on her birthday right. Yeah he's like they're gonna have a lot of bulldoze funny because it was like he was like a little kid. It was again folks. You're judging me right now. Look in the mirror okay. Just look in the mirror. I think you'll be fun. I know friends that did that at a bachelor party in vegas you get to like drive construction vehicles and stuff. I think that's super call. Does it looks a lot like a lot of fun. All right krista laurenz says just mere everyone going through an automated car wash. I always feel like. I'm going to crash into the person in front of you and get murdered by a clown twist do. This is like oh henry on the track going. It's going off right. That would be such a funny prank murder like all of a sudden the it like changes in their car starts going in a horror just like the the the little fuzzy things funnier window and then they park clowns. I do do that someone by the last few times. I've gone through a car. Wash been with daniel but there have been times when by myself and i do. I do feel vulnerable I feel like there's a. There's a shell on sunset where the car the line is always really long. It takes a long time and once you get to a certain point. There's no way you could get out leave. You can leave. And so i started to get like a little bit weird if i think about it too much because i'm like could just walk up to the car and do something or like the car you know anything could happen and it's the same thing when you're in the thing. Yeah you're trapped in there a little bit. It is little that is you can't think about too much and also i feel weird pressure to like pull up to the right place and go when it's my name. It's i have major anxiety about like fucking up and accidentally hitting my gas and killing someone or damaging. My car like i hate those drive e ones. I don't even do them really. And i feel like they need to teach the whole part where you drive the car in just in high school like everyone needs to learn how to do that because half the people just park and they just let it sit there for the full minute and a half right and you know it's like no you're supposed to slowly forward folks. Yeah there's everybody right. There's so much they need to teach high school that they don't teach and they teach the dumbest stuff. Instead we all come out with no skills new. i don't know the parts of cell. I don't know how to make pajama pants. I didn't know how to do taxes. Okay pajama pants. We did we actually eighth grade. But we may pajama pants and home. Mac and i was like i mean these are cool but i mean how do i do taxes. I'm wish i knew how to now. I have no anything i never had. Home ac yeah island kansas. Maybe that's why they were lake. I know i had it in in dallas but my my husband from dc. He didn't have it he. that's real. Yeah it's like. I wonder if they still teach it. I don't know but they definitely did. Did you do like square dancing music class. Like i don't think everybody is optional. Did that in like fourth grade was it. What was it or something you go and you learned to do ballroom dancing. We had castilian where. I grew up and didn't do it though i didn't either until you like i think to expense expensive expensive. Okay auto though. That's right we were too cool for chilean well. Let me tell you as someone who wasn't cool who did go to qatar. Alien being the non cool person it is. What were you asleep. no. I wasn't asleep. But i was not because it's very like old fashioned and formal and you have to wear gloves and then the boys go around and ask if you wanna dance with them so just like sports. I was like the last one to be picked. Always occasionally it would be like okay now. It's the girls pick the guys they'd sadie. Hawkins it up and then i always felt like i'm sorry nerd asking if you'll dance with me but will you dance with me. That's the last thing. That's a nightmare. No thank you really. It was truly. I understand my mom's thing was. I don't want her to feel left out so even though this is like very much not anything that any of the people in our family well. That's not true. My mom was a debutante so it was in her blood. I guess but. I feel like it's like i was so not a kid but she didn't want me feel left out but looking back i would have been okay to not be part of that because it was very. I didn't enjoy it. And i don't use those dances. They always one day use these. No no literally never have needed to do the box. Step tony did you have homework in middle Yeah middle school. I believe i did. When when i was still in michigan interesting. Did you make pajama pants. No can't say the. Did i feel like i mostly remember having to cook things. Yeah all i remember is making cookies you had to thing was in junior high as well. I missed out. It was a pretty fun class. I mean it seems going truly but yeah we made peanut brittle in science class. With like bunsen burners i. It was to illustrate some kind of reaction. Because when you put in the baking soda or something like i've physicist something cool so i did cook one thing in one class but i feel like i've missed out four. We didn't get to do so. We're even yeah. That's right gas. But jackie i mean i know you i was not just you strike me like i know that you enjoy dancing at parties and things like that and i don't like it and maybe made me hate it triggered. I took ballroom dancing in college and it was so fun and i also had the stress of having to find partners because i am five ten. Some people do not know that. But i am tall gal and i could not. There are only like three guys in the class. Tall enough for me to partner with ngos and one of them was really bad. So it was like stressful. Yeah yeah but. I love the dancing. And i haven't gotten to use it in a very long time. I know how to two step waltz foxtrot and tango honey tanko. You learned you found a work around. You'd learn around the answers. And i bet you could just go on tiktok and learn it all yourself this point. I think you could. I need to say hello. And thank you to the new patrons couple. Special israel dot com slash. Like to say big. Tony that tony. Tony has done this. He's also done a jingle for daniels. Cool beans which is the segment where daniel reviews beans on the monday show in. They're both so good weight. That was daniel that was you that said very catchy right. Yes because it sounds like tony for a second and i was like it'd made it is but i didn't expect compliment yourself. No okay. let's say hello. And welcome to dan evans christian schmidt sam colleague jennifer g. megan podkanski and and lasting are converted to annual again. That's where you get two months free if you convert annual and then penny from a which i'm assuming is that's massachusetts right. Yeah has increased her pledge so to all of you guys thank you. I hope you're enjoying patriot. I love having you all as patrons and you guys have signed up. Sign up I also want to say if you like what you're hearing. Please please make sure you're subscribed or you're following. There's different terminology wherever you are but make sure that you get this automatically. Tell your friends and leave us a review. It helps people find the show nicole. Where can people find you and is there anything you'd like to plug Nothing to plug really. Everything's too far away for to plug and you can find me online on instagram and twitter at at nicole thurman and it's nicole twosies awesome. Thank you jackie. You know the drill. 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"Hey everyone hi hello. Welcome to another episode of alice. Greg what are you doing here. Hey what do you mean what alison. Where'd you come from brag. I came from the world of childish. And i just wanna make sure that your listeners know that you're just is wonderful on the on the podcast you. What if they don't have kids donate donate them a lot of our listeners. Actually tell us they don't have kids. We talk about sex. We talk about all sorts of dirty stuff but also parenting. Yeah so the checkout childish new episodes every wednesday wherever you listen to podcasts best. Hey everyone hi hello. Welcome to another episode of alison. Rosen is your new best friend very very excited to be talking to my guest who i will bring in shortly but first i must talk to tony paxton and catch up on stuff. That may have happened since last time we talked. I dunno tony for me. A lot of stuff has happened. Yeah a hello. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much Yeah i i hope. Good things. I feel like a lot of things have happened. Sort of me but not necessarily not like things. Things have just done a lot. You know what i mean. I'm interested in the in the distinction between thing thing versus a thing you've done. Well i just mean like not necessarily anything. All that newsworthy. Yeah i know. I didn't invent anything. Yeah nothing crazy like that. Just you know got win out a few times sauce. Solid friends saw them the most people i've seen at once in a very long time yesterday. S she posted a photo of your adorable dog. Bentley looking all pooped out and you said that it. It was tiring for him. Yeah it was tiring for both of us like i. I had big plans of going out then last night. Because i was out in the afternoon and then i just got home and i was like no i can't Get an e. Keep easing my way back into normal life because it's suddenly exhausting. That's all. I wanna do this. I think we can't overestimate overestimate underestimate. We need to accurately estimate how how weird it is to reenter society. It's weird brings me to actually. I'm going to start with the less exciting thing tony. We talked about the millipedes in my bathroom. And when we had been from kevin and being on the show he let me know that he had millipedes as pets when he was young. He doesn't see why can't just live gently lift them up and just carry them outside. And i felt shamed. I felt like a monster. I felt bad. That i was thinking of massacring them stronger so i did carry one outside and then don't tell being but i did have the exterminator come and then since then i have continued to carry them outside because they're still here so and also share now to an array of silver fish. I feel like did the exterminator spray. Silver fish. i don't know what they did. But i've seen not one deceased insect. I've just seen more insects. But i want being and my millipedes listeners millipedes sympathetic and also millipedes listening my bathroom is a say. The perimeter of the house is not a safe space but the bathroom is a safe space. I now lift them up on a piece of toilet paper. And i carry them outside and i think i hope being happy yeah. You're you're nicer than me. I think. I don't know that. I go through all that. Although let me propose shamed by being. I think you would yeah. I don't know if you're carrying them outside and then you're still seeing them in the bathroom. Let me let me propose you put them in like some sort of box or something and then like drive across town with an and then release it there and see if they come back. I have wondered. Did i carry outside or do they carry one who's persistent came back and say okay. And then the other thing remember i told you marilyn rice cub invited me to coffee or a walk. It was my big like. Oh my god. I'm actually going to become friends with her. It wasn't just a bit on the show. We had our coffee date now. Daniel told me he doesn't think i should talk about it on the show because he thinks it comes off as thirsty. And i don't disagree but here's look the way this works is you. Befriend me you befriend all of us. So i've must bring the listeners along and let them know that it's really happened. We've really we got coffee. We sat outside. I went inside to cream my coffee. I forgot to put my mask on. They instantly were like. Do you have a mask. And then i felt weird and bad. And i wanted them to know. I believe in masks. I just forgot but also i'm vaccinated. I'm not an anti massacre. But anyway i feel like i feel like we might become real friends and thirsty or not. It's happening that's exciting. Thank you as we said. It's it's it's not easy to make friends bill gates so i understand my second friend in four years. He possibly possibly fewer in more. I don't know and you when you went to a birthday party and it was exhausting. Yes actually i. Apparently i just in my head added the word birthday in the email because their past guest and friend jeff dutton and Got there. And i'm like hey happy birthday. And he's like my birthday. It's like oh did i add that word and the apparently i did. Because here's why because otherwise. Why's everyone getting together to hang out in a park. They need a reason. I ill i think right now. That reason is we're vaccinated. Let's do something. I get that but still i feel like it makes sense that it would be a birthday. Yeah yeah interesting so a non birthday. Hang yeah it was nice though. It was while exhausting. I had a real nice time. Good kim tim. Cow packets was the. I love our friend tim. Capac is but i think tim cow is wife is in hawaii. Is that happening. I don't know she was not with him i can. I can confirm. She was not there. But i think she might be in hawaii based just on her social media. Though it's neither here nor there. I think it is time for us to get to the the the main event the reason we're all here very excited to welcome back to the show. Comedian actor writer producer. Host of the very popular. Netflix skews me host of the very popular netflix. Show the wedding coach. She also wrote a book called with dick euless She played allie on crashing and was a writer on crashing and also she's a writer for ted lasso. It is returning to the show. Her third appearance jamie lee. Oh my goodness great to be back. Welcome back you guys. Yeah this is so fun to see you to the last time you were on. So you're on a two thousand twelve and then maybe two thousand eighteen or nineteen. That feels right. Yeah yeah and we were marveling at how long it had been. So i'm glad that we've narrowed the gaps here but you had you were in development for the wedding coach and you couldn't even see. Yeah you couldn't even say you had asked the couple's you're talking about that. Oh we're talking about how as a the same casting people as queer eye in that made you feel good because you didn't want it to be like crazy reality show. Yes yes yes that's true you couldn't say where it was going to be airing but you said it was a streaming service. Oh that's right. I remember this now. Yeah yeah i had to be like very cagey and they're not that many streaming services these at that time there were even less so i'm sure people sort of deduced what i was talking about but look here. We are now and it's it exists. It is on our televisions. people are watching it. people are loving it. How's it feel. It feels great. I mean it's definitely it's a little. Surreal because this show in particular like we filmed it before the pandemic and it really was a hard production just logistically we had to cast the different couples and had never made a reality show before and that in and of itself is like just a really sort of bizarre thing to be a part of and like watch come together in some really great ways like i come from a scripted television background and like you really can't script reality like you can try. You can try to beat out. Something is going to go and come up with some kind of loose outline but like so many things come up in the moment that changed the course of like everything you thought the episode was gonna look like and i think it was a really good lesson for me in terms of like just relinquishing control. Because i link in scripted. You have a lot of control and then like in reality you have kind of non and so for me. I was like flipping out the whole mocking time. We were making it like truly just like losing my mind. Because i didn't understand that like this is sort of an organic thing. That just does come together in editing. You just have to like have some patience and some faith and so yeah. This is just a very long winded way of saying the fact that it's on netflix. Now i'm like. I just i cannot believe it like it finally happened because it was delayed and delayed. They didn't wanna post it netflix. Because they were like yeah watching wedding stuff during the pandemic. everyone's like sad about weddings because they're getting cancelled. So yeah it was actually hard. Original air date was supposed to be in november during election time. And i'm very grateful that didn't happen. Yeah just like quite tense. Time in history. So it's nice to like knock the associated with that right so let's explain that for people who might not be familiar but if you're not familiar go check it out because it is very. It's funny and it's very watchable like it's just it's so well done you sit down and then you'll like six episode with the whole season just went by it's flies it's an inspection and an operating candy. No totally agree. And i think everyone has such short attention spans. As like. it's it's nice to make something where you're like. I promised you can handle it. Whatever's going on in your life you can fit this in like it did. Takes up no brain space right and it's very. It's very feel good and and heartwarming. But so anyway you meet with couples who are in the process of planning their weddings. And you kind of help. Guide them to through the planning and then sort of help with any issues that come up and issues always come up and then you're there at the wedding and then you have a helper with you. Be it at after or a comedian. Yeah and that's a show. That is a show. Yeah yeah. I kind of win and when i pitched it i was like. Oh i kind of it to be like queer eye but for weddings With definitely like more of a blatant comedy bent to it because most of my plus ones as we call them on the show are comedians. But yeah i think the canadians are actually like a really good group of people to send into a wedding. Because we're so opinionated. And i think we have like a heightened ability with observation to a degree and i think that's like the kind of people you need to surround yourself with when you're going through something as emotional or stressful as wedding planning. I think it's just nice to have people who is in like the backs of their heads insides of their heads and like were just always like looking for things to pick apart and it's like kind of refreshing to have that person around you when you feel like you can't really be that person 'cause you're supposed to just be like enjoying it best time of your life like you know it's nice to have someone who's like okay. Come on the lake. let's cut the shit right. I famously too to some people my family. At least i did not have if you had attended. I had a very small wedding if you had a ten. The people who attended the wedding had not that anyone ever like bitches about a wedding but they were like. Oh my god that was like the most beautiful really really. You bitch about weddings okay. I bet it was special. Yes sol's awesome. It was it was really sweet and beautiful and meaningful and my husband had the best time and i. I love him so much. I'm so glad i'm married to him. The the way it all felt for me emotionally not the like actual vows part but the leading up to it and stuff and drama and stuff with the vendors and like i had a very unpleasant experience sure it was raised. I and i cried quite a bit after really. Oh that makes me so much other here for sure. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah one of the honestly. If i'm being completely one of the worst times in my life. Oh my god that makes me feel a thousand times better. Because i feel like i feel like i feel ungrateful and like some kind of princess. Now that i'm not deal writing letters in my head to our wedding planner letting her know things that upset about that. I never told her. Oh no you're not alone there. That's very very common. i. I have a friend. Who when she when her wedding ended she didn't really talk to me or any of her bridesmaids. No one could get a hold of her and yes. She just really liked sunk into a full on depression because she felt like her wedding planner. Sort of let her down. And she's spent all this money and she'd a really beautiful like proper new york city weddings. Hana money went into it so much attention to detail. She is such a like natural party. Planner type so she had such a clear vision for what she was going for. And so i do think her expectations were really high and i think she was setting herself up to fail to a degree but like the fact that she just kind of stopped talking to people in her life because of her wedding like that should real. So why then do we do it kind of left with that. And i know what you mean because on the other side of it. It's i never heard anyone say anything. Negative about weddings before the actual wedding but on the other side of it. I've heard from other people like mine. There were lots of things that upset me about mind like. Why did we do this to ourselves. Well it's you're kind of you're kind of stuck in a bad spot because i've played out both instances. I'm like okay. Let's say we don't like do all the things. Whatever that means decorations dealing with vendors planner. Lots of guests. Whatever that means for you like. Let's say you like strip it all away. We'll then even when you're stripping away planning goes into properly stripping something away like you're kind of stuck in this place where you're like. I could plan a lot for a small thing. Or i could plan for a thing that accommodates like more people in my life. And then everyone's together and then it kind of takes on this like family reunion vibe. Which sounds really great. Because then you kind get like a two for one like you see everybody and you get married like it's it's just there's really no great option and i think that's what's tough and unless you properly go to vegas and like do like elvis right pro. There's probably shit you have to deal with their who even knows books up years in advance and it's a pain in the ass to like spot there. I don't know because we kept are so small. I think a lot of people's feelings were hurt. And that's something that that's like. It's like i've got the rings of regret and like the second ring of regret is like oh. Was it worth it. No we should have whatever the getting into the wizard but now why why were you depressed after your wedding well. I don't think i was depressed immediately. After but i think that some of the wounds sort of have like carried on with me in ways that i just didn't expect i kind of thought that i think the narrative was always well. You're going to deal with a lot of turmoil in the lead up. But then after the day calms everything melts away. And you won't even think about it and that's not really true. I think for me it was more like. Oh wow i'm kind of blindsided by these pops of resentment. That i just was told wouldn't happen and i'm like but they did happen so yeah i think it wasn't so much a full on depression as it was just like. Oh yeah like. I was lied to like. That's actually not true. You do hang onto things that happened during your wedding process Yeah what about you a. Why was i depressed after. I was hurt by the way i was treated by some of my family and i didn't realize how much i had placed humongous expectations on them And i didn't have we didn't have we had like a best man in a maid of honor but we didn't have a bridal party because it was so small amd because i don't know if other people i mean actually the you know the very top of talking about making a new friend. I something about getting married in my late thirties. I just felt like i don't know who my quote unquote girls are that i would. Churn start if i feel disconnected from people from friends in a way and so i had a couple of my closest friends there. But i don't know something about doing it just it. No you mean another a became another factor to figure out who do we include in this wedding parties like rank your people today. See me the way. I see them are they as close to me is i it. It just is so uncomfortable right so uncomfortable even when you're even when you're bright in your twenties it's like oh man here we go. I have to like yeah. I have to come up with a hierarchy of who i care about by host Like it just so gross. So i ended up feeling very lonely. Getting ready and a lonely. I was like dealing with family drama. And i didn't feel like i had support and i know that my sister hearing this would be very hurt because she was trying her best. But it's like i mean it's it's complicated but i just felt very hurt and alone and then to walk down the aisle with all that kind of churning was just tough and i think afterwards it's just sort of like my feelings were hurt and i didn't know but my feelings were hurt but i also felt i feel like this is out of proportion to what happened so why not letting go and i just. I felt like disappoint in that regard like a disappointment to my husband because he had had a great day and it was very special to him. I mean and sars but that's not surprising to me and so here he is like this is supposed to be the time of our lives. And you're just crying all the time. And i'm like i know and so i very much relate to that thank you. Yeah that's really tough but was any of this triggering so anyway given my all my wedding stuff. Daniel was marveling at my ability to watch this show and not be triggered because i kind of avoid wedding content but i really either passed or this show is just so well done that. I really wasn't triggered at all. Where like where you triggered at all aching it. Yes god truly constantly. Yeah definitely. I mean i also think that the hard spot that i was in was in my heart of hearts like when i 'cause i dealt with six very different types of weddings people who are in different situations different cultural backgrounds like it was pretty diverse. Like emotionally physically. Everyone's experience is just very different and the one commonality was that at every wedding that i had to help with. I did have this feeling of. Why are we doing this. Why are they doing this. why are we. Why is anyone doing this. It's not that i'm anti commitment. I'm not anti marriage. I just was like there's something so flawed here that i'm feeling this way every at every single wedding i'm like interesting and it's so hard when you're they're trying to be supportive. This is a really important time to them. They've spent so much money. Like i really just wanted to be like. What can i do for you but in the back of my mind i wanted to give divisive like like. Maybe you should like. Maybe you shouldn't do it like like. Don't go through this like. Save your relationship doll and we did have one couple who ended up not getting married but i wanted to give that advice for kind of my anti wedding advice. You know but then. I'm like well jaime. You're making a fucking wedding show like so. It's this weird thing where i was trying to be as diplomatic as possible but also be honest and candid and say the things. No one's going to say but also you can't say so much that you're like scaring the people you're trying to help you know. I think that was hard for me is like what is that line between making. Sure your authentic and like making sure that you're helping these people in a real way but also like not weighing in so hard that it becomes about you right right. It's like i think about this though. I think if someone had said to me you know what just elope. You'll be happier. I was already so emotionally and financially invested. I would have been like no i have. I have to have this experience for myself to realize that. I wouldn't have believed them. My mom at one point was like what are you doing this for like. Who is this for. You even want to do this. And i was like yes i do. I really just like what you're saying. I was like. I have to go through this at this point. The train has left the station. And i am on that train. And i can't get off for many many many stops what you were saying earlier about the difference between reality and scripted. And how you just kind of had to like. You're freaking out the whole time it but you had to just let things happen. A moment that i think is so funny. The episode with john gabriel's where episode. Is it the john capers one. I think it is but at the very end of it when you're like no. I'm the only one who talks to camera it. No one talking again. Yeah we were. Oh man we were so drunk at that. Wedding was crazy so much drinking happening and making reality tv. It's like people literally are coming up to you giving drinks at all times. So i'm curious a yeah. I'm curious about the actual process from finding the people who want to have their wedding filmed to like were. They actually interviewed in their own homes because they all live in sparse stylish homes and then like what was the. What are the actual weddings. Like with a crew there. Yeah that's a great question. I think that will the interviews happen. The one where they're just talking to camera. That happens without me like we have a producer who just gets all the information out of them. And then i i i on separate days go in and actually like help them with planning emotional support and all those things. The camera crew at the weddings was probably was probably the hardest part. Actually not the weddings but in the bridal suite. That was really tough because these brides are getting ready. There's a lot of chaos everyone's cross talking bridesmaids or lego. Where's my shoe like. It's just like constant craziness. So i think that was the hardest part is like i couple moments in filming where i felt like i was in the way. I'm like. this is not helpful like this. I need to be here because we're making a tv show but like this is tough like these. People are actually getting ready for their wedding. So i think that was. That was hard. The other hilarious thing that i did not anticipate. Was that on the wedding day. Aside from bridal suite stuff. I was working so hard like there was so much to be done that no one was doing that. I forgot. i was on television. Like i was like. Oh i remember at one point. I'm like i'm just working at the wedding now. I'm working so people come to jamie new to change like if the put on a dress now and i'm like i have to. What get the fuck out of my way. I have to do so. It was funny in that way. Because unlike i'm actually very invested in immersed in this which i do think came through in the show which i'm happy about but like it was the facts like i mean. There were certain moments where like stuff was really about fall apart. And i was like literally no one else's handling nece like they think they think that i am an actual wedding planner like the family and stuff and i'm like no i'm not. I'm just like this person who comes in and like tries to shoulder some of the burden. Whatever that may be but like. I'm not an official anything. So i was kinda thrown into these like positions of authority because i think they just go like. Oh netflix's here jamie's here so that like that's so everyone just give her all the things to do. Were just here to hang out and right. Okay yeah no problem. And i was there for that reason but there are definitely some moments where i was like. I almost missed the wedding. Because i was so focused on fixing stuff up until the last minute and in terms of shooting the actual ceremony like yeah is does the ceremony from start to finish go as it normally would or are there reshoots of things it does. No you guys just like fly on the wall. Yes one hundred percent. We set up pretty early. They get the whole wedding. I mean they really filled the entire thing. Even some of the weddings were longer and they filmed this. Start to finish. yeah yeah. The nigerian wedding was so crazy and cool. I love that wedding. I like a performance. It wasn't performance and no it was it was. I was one of the coolest things i've done. Because yeah they enter dancing. And they're dancing like right in front of you and it's like so emotional like gabor's and i were like teary eyed watching. It was like it's the way i think. A lot of people sometimes get emotional when they see a musical or so. Guess there's just something like all of your senses are being played to which is like music and action and dancing and emotion. Like it was fully that i was like. I had chills from like emotional. I felt just watching people dance into a wedding. It was very funny. I'm someone who tears up at musicals. And i've never quite understood why you think that's what it is. It's the all the senses being engaged at once. It's like easter emotion or something. Yes yes. I'm sure there's like a very quick answer to what it is but that's what i always attributed it too. I was like it's just 'cause like everything is being played to right now. You know what won't make you cry. Please note my excellent segue bomba socks. They're the best socks ever. They're so comfortable. They'll make you angry at your other socks and angry at all the years you spent wearing anything other than bomb us. Lots of things can make your workouts hard extra resistance double speed one more mile. Your socks shouldn't though that's why bomba's performance socks are built to be nothing but comfortable and supportive. That's what jamie and i are. Oh my god people. I'm just like a pair of socks and promised. Performance socks have taken all the amazing innovations that make us the most comfortable socks you've ever worn and added their special hexed tech performance technology. 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Get ten percent off their first month of online therapy at dot com slash best friend. That's better help better. H e l p dot com slash. Best friend okay. So back to the wedding coach. How i'm wondering. How involved were you in editing producing casting like all the all the things. Yeah yeah as as involved as i guess i could be. I mean the casting is interesting casting. I definitely watched a bunch of casting videos but it there are so many factors that played into who got chosen a lot of it had to do with what is our production period and does their wedding fall within that. Or is it like one. Weddings here another weddings. Next year like there were certain weddings that i wanted to attend and i was like they actually just don't line up with win. Were shooting so that had to. That's what we had a rule them out. Another part of it is like background. Checks like there was one couple really interested in and yeah i mean it was just There was some stuff in the bride's past where i was like legally like we. We actually netflix will not approve them. So that was another thing that i learned. I was like. Oh apparently some of this fully out of our control so it really had to do with like making sure. The weddings felt different enough. Making sure the problems were clear enough that they needed help with the problems. Were not like the same problem in two episodes and you're also making sure they look different like i didn't want to have to sort of like backyard. Diy type weddings. Everyone's doing something different. So what. I don't know how much you can say about this. But i'm dying to know like what kinds of things would take someone out of the running in their background check. Well one person in particular has died had been married before to someone who was part of pretty like famous criminal case. Yeah yeah so like Was like accused of lots of terrible things. So she she had been or he had been it by. It was wait. Sorry did i say the sorry. I'm getting confused. It was the it was a dude. Okay dude who's being considered and his ex wife was very problematic I some yes. She was like part of a pretty well known trial. Like kind of a big case that has been in the news and stuff. She was being accused of lots of terrible things. So yeah so that was like and if it was sad because he's like getting remarried and so it's like he's like no. I'm not associated with but it's like well actually like you kind of are like in in terms of what netflix's is willing to accept is a liability like this. Just we can't we can't do this. So yeah ruled out because of potential litigation or just people would associate it would make it. This was both. I think it was fascinating. It was like they don't wanna be associated. They don't want our show to be associated with that abdel got it yeah audit and it's interesting one. They just say like they do a ton of true crime but get separated like we don't want this to be true crime. Yeah it makes sense and it also is such an interesting story. And it was a bummer. Because if we had used them. I would have wanted to talk about it like whoa. Wow what a you know you know. Second times. The charm like definitely. It's time to really rough. So i'd love to hear about it. There was also another one where it was like. This whole larry is wedding. It was like everything was winter. Themed and they going to have ice dancers and like my sculptures and like it was just super over the top. The girl was like a beauty queen and it was like the parents. Were like majorly like drug addict alcoholic. Lakes yeah so they were like it's not going to be great if we like them on camera and they do something like it's just again too much of a liability but and these are not my choices made for me right so it's just frustrating. Because i'm like oh that would have been like such a fun wedding to see and then it's like. Yeah but their families. Yeah it's gonna make it tough. Icecapades drug pricing. no also. That's that that was hard for me. Because i'm like but it's real like yeah totally israel like that's the point of the show and yeah it's funny. How like you want to showcase certain things and then everyone else is like no like you think. That's what you want to showcase. But it's actually not. And i'm like okay like i guess you know. I had to make some concessions and obviously i really had no choice in the matter they were they were forces about me being like no. That's so interesting. I think i would be inclined to be like you like but this weird tangent. But i mean. Did you re drug problems in your family of origin. We've talked about for the Do you think that was part of why you were like this is real. Let's yes yeah. I think so. I think that's right. Yeah i think. Also i just i really always kind of bumped on with with i love say bob like with cocaine but it's something has always bothered me like in watching reality. Tv there's always hard cuts and editing. Where i'm like wait like you left out a main. Yes detail i something. There's a huge leap in logic. I'm not sure. I'm supposed to suspend belief in not focus on that. Does all i can think about sale. I really don't like that. And i was really trying to like not do that with sometimes like with bravo shows. I wonder is part of the appeal. This nonsensical of jumping around thing. It's so elliptically like a riddle for your head it. Yes what is that. And it's like it's become so commonplace like oh these shows are so that. I think we're just supposed to be like. Did you see what will happen on housewives and put like we. None of us really saw. What happened edited in such fucking crazy way. We don't know what the actual story is. We just know like someone off the handle yes also always have these long pauses and you're like that is so clearly done with editing. I wanted a conversation. Just doesn't talk right in response to someone being like your fucking bitch. No-one just is quiet. Yes that's only in reality. Do you cut to someone like giving dead is to that person you're like that's just not you know. We missed so many things right. It just all ended up on the cutting room floor. Yes i always think that do. Yeah do you enjoy reality shows. It's not really my go-to love is blind. Was probably the only one that i watched like truly drooling over how much i loved it. Yeah i don't really watch them. I watched the first season of queer eye. When that premiered. I was like this is amazing. They are doing something with reality. Tv that i have not seen before and like it made me really curious and trying to pursue the unscripted space. 'cause i was like i feel like there's an opportunity here that would be really great if done correctly and yeah but i'm not like a big like ninety day fiance's i do like that show but i don't i don't just pop on reality. Tv i never watched bravo like yeah not really i think in my twenties i watched it more. What about you. I go in phases remember. I got into celebrity rehab and cart keeping up with the kardashians like way back in literary fair is so good. It really is such a good show. I no longer keep up with them. But i did and i would especially with celebrity rehab. I would always marvel at the way. I could watch an entire episode and it was kind of interesting but then in the last two minutes. I'm like oh. My god. I have to know what's going to happen next or i will die like just magically edited so that would have been probably in the early to mid two thousand. I think i remember. I had i had just started my blog. It was at the time it was my blog now has been transformed into my website. I was writing about those shows on there and then a little bit real housewives of new york same when that first came on i was very into it. I got very into vanderpump rules. Javer watch that one no. I never really watched it. Re- it's really. I mean i had a good is a weird. Yes it's really a watchable. I really enjoyed that then. I stopped then. I got back into that. And then what else. Oh i restoring. The pandemic got into below deck. That's what i hearing about. I really love below deck. I had heard about it a lot. And i don't know what i thought. I thought it was going to be like real housewives on a ship or something and it's really not especially. The first season reminds me sort of road rules at the beginning. Like it really is. it's not. It doesn't gin up drama beginning it. Didn't we really is following the experience of these people who work on a charter yacht. So a whole different world i am. I really enjoy it. It's kind of interesting. Yeah i feel like. I saw like one episode of that and i remember being like oh i could get into this. Yeah because that's that's a world. I just don't know anything about or yacht. Culture yacht staff. Like i think it'd be kind of cool to see have a window into that world a little bit. Same i like that too. It was like it wasn't just people hanging out being bitchy right. Speaking of i also enjoy the hills but it is like watching people actually have a skill and like the chef is very very funny and the chef changes but the beginning but but speaking of really good tv shows and tv show that i watched during the pandemic ted lasso. Oh yea you're a writer on what has that been like. Are you guys working on the next season right now. We are shooting the second season. So we've written the second season and yeah it's it's it's almost done shooting. I think that we go back for the third season. August is what i'm being told. Yeah it's been amazing. I mean first season when we were writing it It was like the best job i had ever had. I mean it really was like the best group of people. Bill lawrence's such an excellent boss. And like i'm just so. In all the way he conducts a room and he just keeps the morale really high and he just makes everyone treat each other like adults and like. It's just a really like a healthy place to work. Which i feel like you know. It's funny i i've heard of these shows that people love and then you hear like oh well. It's shocking that it turned out so great considering link the whole staff fucking hates each other stories but i feel like because we enjoyed each other so much. I do think that is why. The first season is Successful in the way it is like. I think that some of that came through because it really was like lightning in a bottle. Everyone really respects each other in like long. That's great yeah so yeah. I'm curious what the second season will look like because we wrote it on zoom. You know that's just a different just different but it's not writing the first season on soon. I think that's that's a lot harder when you don't really know what your show is yet and you have to do it over the computer. I think that's hard. But the one that i think of. When you mention a show where it's like it's amazing. It turned out that well because it was a toxic culture. And i don't think i'm telling stories out of school because oh probably heard this community. Oh that's a big one community modern family. Yeah yeah those are the two i think of the most. Have you ever been in that kind of environment. I had definitely been in environments that. We're talk sic that. I did not realize at the time. Exactly how toxic they were. Because honestly ted lassos. Set the bar really high for me now. I'm like it is possible to like. Be in a healthy writer. You're like you know what i mean. But yeah definitely moments right. I was like just like sort of classic things that come up for a lot of female writers. Like if i am loud my voice gets really high and then people don't wanna listen to you because that doesn't sound good you know it's like stuff like that where you get talk over. 'cause you're like not as loud as the men in the room like just physically can't do that with your voice so there's that or like you're the only woman in the room you know. Not enough diversity. It stuff like that that definitely encountered and at the time i hated it and looking back i hate it even more. So how did you get. How did you get the lasso job. How did that come about. I had auditioned for bill lawrence for a pilot and i tested for. It didn't get it the friends with him. And then he pulled me in to meet with jason when they were interviewing writers. And i went in kind of like i want. I definitely was excited to be meeting on it. But i didn't know anything about apple at the time this was like i think maybe the morning show was on. Maybe the morning show hadn't even premiered yet. So i was just a little like i don't really know what apple is. I don't know if it's like cool or like people are going to have it on their. Tv's like i just don't know if it's anything and the other part was just. I don't care about sports. And i am not a sports person in an i. You know if you're hiring me for that reason like you're going to be gravely disappointed and so that was kind of my angle. When i went in and was like. I just have to be honest with you like i don't know anything about soccer actually really liked soccer. Like if i had to watch sport it's one of the ones i can get into. I'm not really sure why. That is. Because i don't really like basketball and other team sports but there's something about soccer that i've always enjoyed so yeah but i was just like i'll help with like interpersonal relationships. And i definitely like the romcom girl. I can really like lean into that developing those relationships in the female characters and stuff. I i won't be able to add value on the soccer front and then they were like. Oh worry we have two people on staff who know everything you need to know about soccer. And i was like well great. I didn't hear anything for a while. And then i found out. I was getting an offer and i was like okay. I was definitely. I thought that bill was so awesome. I thought jason was awesome. But i i really knew nothing about the project. I'm like i kind of just went and being like this fun and then it ended up being such a great job that i almost didn't care if the show is going to be good i was like this is just such a healthy working environment. I love coming to work everyday. It's so rare to feel that way and yeah and then it ended up being this like huge success. And that's just very surprising to me. Like i had no. You don't know that when you're making it like right. I mean maybe there are shows where people are like. We're onto something guys like i don't. I don't know how you can have that kind of confidence that early before anything's aired. So so you auditioned for bill lawrence as an actor though right as an actor then he brought you in as a writer as a writer so he how did he that. So that's so cool that he knew that you have this year a writer as well. Yes yeah he knew. Because he knew i wrote on crashing enacted on crashing and. Yeah so he just brought me and he was like i think he he also knew my stand up a little bit so i think he was just kind of like i know she's he he really loves. Stand up so. I think he was really supportive in that way and most. That's not true not all well. A lot of the writers on staffer performers as well so he seems to understand that in foster that. I'm sure there are people who don't want to hire writer performers. Because they're like like are they going to try to get on the show like now that kind of thing but yeah he's definitely very understanding of like people having multiple passions within sort of the comedy umbrella. I'm passionate about. Why having a really healthy good looking lawn jamie okay. I love that segue. Look the last thing anyone wants. The last thing anyone needs is another complicated or toxic lawn product. Sunday is more than just a lawn care. Product is a custom lawn care plan with a variety of ways to help you grow beautiful lawn control. Weeds and remove pasts they take out all the guesswork and unwanted chemicals so you can grow beautiful on. That's better for people pets and the planet jamie. You're in new york. So i know this doesn't quite apply you there but it might apply to you in los angeles. 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I know how to play I is it just me or is it normal to like have a running list of very strange baby names even though i don't have kids but i'm obsessed with coming up with what i would name my children. I think that's not if you think that's not do. I always had tons of names and then when it came time to actually like you know what my problem was. I always had girl names. I always grabbed my only have that names but a lotta my girl names her gender neutral but i do only girl names no offense to boys but yeah i'm not i mean i'm just telling you i don't have those names. I don't believe i'm not superstitious. I don't believe in anything but if you do that you are make. You're telling you whenever you're just going to have a boy. Yeah because i have two boys never got to use my girl names. Okay okay. yeah. I don't think that's just you but i don't know any do you do this. I don't do that. I mean it's a thing that's that's you know crossed my mind here and they're like maybe maybe by the i wouldn't say list or anything like that but i've definitely heard of of people do love and i love like i want. I want my kid to have the weirdest name like you know. People always made fun of like what a paltrow for naming her kid apple. Oh i'm i'm like i live for it. I live for apple. a live for moses. I live for blue ivy. Like i love coming up with like crazy baby names so or whatever that that i don't know if they're crazy but unusual unusual ause. You're going to you're going through with the you're going to give them a name that no one has ever heard. Oh yeah no. It's going to be weird. Yeah i'm not really sure where it comes from. I just have this. You know what i think it is. It's because jamie lee is actually a very common name. I've been told that my whole life. So i think there's part of me that's like i'm gonna come up with a name that is like so google lable like like you only have to type in the first three letters of their name and they're gonna come up like nickname iconic. Yeah i could be a name. It and honestly could what i was always surprised about is that i would hear of a name like the first time i thought of it. As like and this is this is years before. I had sure like the name. Olivia like And i'm like wait. It's sort of like. I did a double take the name like wait a minute. I actually really liked that name. And then just like bubbled up to the top of my list and i think for people who had kids around when i did. That name is one of the most popular. Oh yeah so. You like evelyn. Evelyn eve i really like eva. I like those homes love and avalon. Yeah it's very popular. Eleanor is very popular all same. Yes all these names. This is how much none of us are unique. Except for your child. Who's going to be just a force with but i think that's how much we're all like in the same cultural moment. Is this a name that strikes us as unusual rare and beautiful like everyone thinks that you can't bat weird. I know that's why i'm trying out. I'm trying to get ahead of it too. I'm doing all my due diligence to make sure that i'm actually picking names. That are not popular. That's smart onto right now. I mean i think if you did like jennifer kathy dot would be marcy then they're your unique because those are right. Yes totally totally. Yeah yeah if my kid was just named like sarah they'd be like whoa mic drop. Do you want to have kids. I don't think so. I think i do. I don't know. But i get nervous. Because i feel like my answer being i think so is like kind of troubling Like i feel like they're the the fuck. Yes people and i am like a little concerned. I'm not that. I'm definitely really nervous about it. I really like being able to have like a flexible schedule. In not that my schedule is flexible at all. But i like being able to like figure it out. Based on what i need to do and i just get nervous that if i have a kid i'm going end up like having cancel a bunch of shit and like it's just going to get really but then also you want to do that. That's that's what i have to remind myself is like yes. That's because like your like your priorities are changing in a good way. Like it's not a bad. I think that's just the stuff that i as a person without kids. I get really nervous about what that actually is gonna look like and i'm an array bad at it or something i don't think oh well i feel like you re do you know you wanted kids like forever. Yes but it wasn't this like mo. My biological clock is ticking. I never felt it tick. I never i never felt this yearning that you hear about her. I just always knew that. I would like to be a mom someday. I would like to be part of what my life looks like. Eventually like that that i never yes. I have to ask a follow up question this. Do you feel like meeting your husband and being in love with your husband. You're like oh. I would wanna have kids with him like i like. He makes it feel more real. Yes well. I think for him meeting me because he was a little bit on the fence before one point in his life he didn't want kids at all and then he had a health scare and like came out of that feeling. Like oh i think. I do want to have kids and then meeting me. He said that he he could. He could see it. He felt that. I would be a good mom and like he would wanna bring kids in the world with me for me. I always knew. I wanted to have kids but i was never with someone where i felt like. Yeah this makes sense but then amit just everything fell into place. But i think that i laboured under this idea that i want to accomplish certain amount. I want to get to a certain place in my career. I want everything to be lined up before. I have kids and then i have heard people say like just do it because it's never going to be the right time not to me personally. But that's just in general. I've heard that yeah. And i got to a point. Where just biologically. If i'm gonna do it. It's gotta be now sure you know it wasn't like i said i never really felt the biological clock tick in this way of either. Oh my god it's time like my name is ready for a baby to be anything like that. It wasn't like that it was just. I want to get pregnant and then you know so. I was invested in that process. Then i like needed it to work but that was even. That was less about having a kid like this thing that has been such is such a huge expense and so taxing it makes you inherently more invested in it right. You're like. I have actually put time and effort. Yes it wouldn't. Here's literally onto this. Yeah that being said. I'm so happy that i had my kids though. And just today. I was thinking. It's a really like one of my favorite things that i've done. I'm like my favorite facets of my life is being their mom even though i never. I didn't have the feelings that i thought i needed to have beforehand. It all worked out on this end i never. I never wish. I didn't have kids sometimes. I tossed it but yeah but then you're like it's for this thing that i really care about. Yeah do you not feel that way. Like actively is that like a feeling that you have after the factor and you have those moments where you're like. This is hard but it's worth it. I like this is hard. But i love them. Yeah and my god daniel. Can you please take over. Because i need to go take a nap. Because i'm losing my mind. Like i do not do well with not enough sleep. I mean either. That's add main fair. I a big sleep. I like like that's another thing. It's just like freedom. I'm like i like knowing what i need to go to sleep and making it happen like i'm just nervous about like transitioning from like jamie today. Not just about you anymore. Jamie and i think that the initial adjustment is hard. I was like how again sort of like a wedding. Like howard no and warned me that even though people had warned me that didn't i just i remember when we when we had a puppy. Thank you this has got to be harder than having a baby because with the baby they can't really move around but a puppy is mobile. I could not have been. I eat my words because with a puppy. It's not like every hour every couple of hours at your up that being said you know if you have childcare care can help you out. That makes a huge. We didn't know at the beginning but that makes a huge difference. Because all of a sudden you can take a nap and you can take a shower and all these things that you hadn't okay hadn't figured out how to do beforehand so yeah just like family or get or something like that and anne. Yeah yeah. I joke that. I joked that i was like when i have a baby and then i was like sorry when skyler has a baby because it's shot we literally it comes out of china like here can you. Can you handle this. I think it's funny. I think it's funny. Thanks yeah i think. I think you're good. I heard that also you have a hey go fuck yourself. I do okay. People who are like obsessed with going back to work in person and like being like a high can't wait to not be on zoom. Listen i get it like. Zoom is exhausting and it sucks to like sit at a computer and stare at a screen and like yeah you don't get to like give people hugs or whatever the fuck now like people who want to go back to work on zoom. Please go fuck yourselves because it is giving us so much freedom. We don't have to be stuck in traffic like yeah. There is just so much beauty and like rolling out of bed and then like get going to quote unquote going to work just being turning on your laptop like let us not forget the freedom that comes with that so hey people who are eager to get back to work in person. Go fuck yourselves okay. Hey excuse tony. Did you feel personally called out. Sure did get it. I mean i live alone to their. It's just me here. So i understand and also i do understand i get it. I'm just like yeah. I'm living in new york right now and everyone's like you're gonna have to go back to la fine. I love lots of friends there. I just. I'm just like i don't wanna like i don't wanna have to like move for work. I would love to just work where i want to work and get that too but yeah i'm just that's not where that yeah i feel it. I feel it i feel you. I just agreed to do and to be a guest on a podcast in person. ooh the first time this is my first time being a guest on a podcast in person in this entire time. I think they're just getting back to the studio. And i think you and i both i think we both were asked to do the same. Oh yeah probably And i'm like oh man. What am i gonna wear like. I barely have closed outside. I have them. But i just haven't put them on and so i know i know what you mean. I've pretty much just been relying on be presentable from like you know up as someone who has a problematic dairy air. Actually my butts fine. It's the fire. It's someone who. I'm pear-shaped. So i kind of enjoyed just having the top of the pair. Be the focus. No but the bottom of the pairs tastiest part of the pair. You're right it's the juiciest down there and wants to stem speaking of all of body stuff. I have to say. I was really listening to our most recent episode. And the fact that you're was it your grandma and your and yeah yeah like three hauled station. Yeah did a three way conversation when you were in high school to ask you what was up with all the weight you were gaining out like i wanted to fucking die listening to the that and then like listening to that was the reaction. I had on the episode as well. I just i feel so bad for you. It was so cruel. Yeah but you know. I will say like i have gotten to a place and i don't know if it's just trying to convince myself of this or if i actually feel this way but i really like don't diet anymore and i definitely still have the thoughts like you should be dieting. You should dieting. why aren't you dieting. But i really don't and i'm kind of i hope it sticks like outdid i achieve that i think i just hit a point where well i think a couple of things i think. That like lena dunham girls. I think that help just being like go. It's a female lead. Who doesn't look like every other female. Yeah that's good like we have some body diversity here. I think part of it is in instagram. Like some of the body positivity stuff in or whatever whatever supposed to call it positively. It's called body acceptance. I can't remember. i'm so sorry. I know i thought it was body. Positive is but then someone was telling me that that is not the the right term for it or it is but it's it's not anyway. He's calling body confidence. Maybe confidence movement anyways. Whatever i basically. Yeah i think some of that has helped. I also think that like. I'm i'm really active. I work out a lot. And i really enjoy working out so i'm kind of like i wanna work out and eat what i want and that feels like a balanced lifestyle to me. I'm thinking i'm too old to think about food all the time like i want to free up some of my brain space for other things and i just really need that one to get out of there like i want to be thinking of other things. So it's definitely an effort. It's not effortless. But yeah. I'm like i went out and had pizza last night and drank and i was like yeah. It's fine like this. This is what i should be doing like once like. I don't do that every night. I know you like balanced everything. But i do but i want to be able to like especially in new york city. Go out and like enjoy myself. It's really important to me right so good. Yeah yeah i know. I think age does play a role i when i lived in new york. I used to do this segment on channel four in the mornings called best. Bet where i would you know. Go on the news and talk about events happening in the city for time out new york and so it was it like six. Am on a saturday morning and so from midday. Friday to six am or two. When i was done i would eat nothing like a while and just i did it every friday at like. You're gonna notice. Like oh she. I i mean i not anytime film something. I'm like oh. I got to gear up one day before thing i'm talking about. I don't think i in the same way that i can't take a red eye anymore and i mean i could but i don't want to. I don't think i could do that anymore. No i think it's also making that choice to just all yourself and be like i'm not a red eye person. Yes sure we could all do. But no i don't i yeah i feel the same way. There's certain things that like happened in my twenties in now triggered by the my thirties. And i'm like. I just can't i can't do it anymore. Yeah all right. and then. Lastly we have a question that listeners have sent in on patriae on call cuckoo way as how much. Okay whitney see says what's a memorable concert or show you've attended. Oh love that question. Unmemorable concert or show i mean Probably the most memorable for me was. When i was in high school i went to see this band called rocket from the crypt and the venue that i was actually my parents venue. They had a problem with because my parents are in the music business they. They had a problem with their dance. whole license. and so One of the people who worked at the club came out on stage in front of the whole crowd and was like the band is gonna come on. You cannot move like you have to stand there because we have a problem with their dance license and if you literally move your body like you are dancing you will be thrown out this joke right and then no band came out and we just had to like stand their pencils like straight. Don't like tap your foot to the beat. Don't move just have to wash the show and so so insane. Yeah it was insane without miserable. The ban was so good. That yeah i mean. It's you like blue ball. You're like this is crazy. Who's not gonna move to these guys like. They weren't like fucking kenny g. They were like a blast. So yeah it was just really annoying. Anyway funny wow and then elissa van dyke says i'm currently obsessed with crashing and i've loved jamie for about a decade now. I a lot of a lot of feedback like that. You have a lot of fans among my people. Does she prefer stand up or acting in. Does she prefer writing or performing move. God i think my very favorite thing in the world is like my dream is to act in the thing. I wrote That feels like that's like my happy place would be that. But i think stand up is kind of in its own category. Like i'll never not love. Stand up. I don't think there's any other type of comedy that like really touches. Stand up in that way. So yeah i don't know if that's a good answer. Not but that's how i feel. Have you missed it this past year. Not really fucked up to say i. I miss parts of it i do miss. The thing was standard is like stand up. You get stand up so if you if you aren't doing it it's very easy to just be like i don't do that right now but then once you start doing it again you're like how did i ever not do this and I miss the social element of it. I also miss like working on jokes and thinking in those terms. But i think for the most part it freed up some time to think about other things that i wanted to do. Still within comedy. So there's a yeah. I think that i learned that about myself during the pandemic like i really like trying to like yeah just like want to make a tv show and get it made. Hopefully so those are the things that i'm like. Yeah i'm interested in. I wrote a movie. I'm trying to give me their stuff like that. So i'm like. I think that this is sort of allowed me to think about some of that stuff in a real way. 'cause rhymes no alternative. It was like that was all you could really think about. Are you disciplined as a writer. Like i mean or rather what i mean to say is like do you right at the same time every day. You have nuttier. I have very little structure but just get it done the thing. That's cool about living in new york. Right now is that l. a. doesn't open until one pm new york time So i can really use my mornings to like dick around real hard. Go on walks. Maybe go the gym for a little bit. Drink a coffee. Like i can just kinda like ease into my day and then like one to like eight pm. I feel like the window where it's like everyone's up you know and i kind of liked that you get two days in one which has been really nice is is new york unsafe feeling. I had mark norman on the show. Awhile ago he was saying that it was really rough. It had gotten really rough in the pandemic and i was surprised. The pandemic yes. That's what i'm waiting. Yeah yeah it was really bad at first now like great. I can't even envision that. Because i lived there for many years and it was safe the whole time i was there and so of course i heard stories of how it used to be but i never experienced it being roughly. What was it like well. I wasn't here for like the march april. Okay that the onset of the pandemic. I got here in december. Like the end of twenty twenty. So i don't know. I feel like it was better here than it was in l. a. because it really surged in la rona but. Yeah i don't know now it's like everyone's kind of like out in the streets rejoicing. Like everyone's gonna musical. So i'm loving it and the weather got really nice. So yeah well. We'll tell new york. I say hi. I missed so much. I will tell them. You say what. I want to remind you guys that an amazon. You might not know it. Because i like to play it cool. But i'm an amazon influence. Or i have an amazon store. You can shop my podcasting gear my makeup. My skin care stuff stuff for the home. I've got a corner daniels. Coroner where i put items that he uses in it that are barra saying but he does use them. Beano saline spray breathe right strips stuff. I've got my recommendations for kids and to get to there to peruse that amazon dot com slash shop slash. Alison rosen again. Amazon dot com slash shops slash and rosen. 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The Amazing Spider-Man (vol. 5) #65 REVIEW
"Soon the angles on drama around saying questions and the web to in nineteen sixty with orange amazing saw the basing raped by. Hello i'm dapper. Dan gosden and i own every issue of amazing spider man including the annuals which definitely count and i- mischievous marching nacchio. And i own every issue of amazing spiderman but the annuals do not count. Welcome to the amazing spider talk show where to fans and collectors uncover the strange fund and fascinating history of the spiderman comic universe. Thanks for joining us for this review episode of the amazing spider. Talk woo well today on the show. Dan and i are going to be discussing amazing spiderman volume five number sixty five legacy number eight hundred sixty six titled king's ransom part three amazing spiderman number. Sixty five was written by nick. Spencer with art by federico vision teeny and federico sabatini. Don't mix up federico's. Dan color is alex sinclair and letters by. Vc's joke ero manga. The cover is by bark. Bagley john del. brian rubber. This issue was first released on. May fifth cinco de mayo. Twenty twenty one. Wow mar time the party. Get the margaritas going. We'll bring italian artists with us. It'll be a whole thing. Just cultural mixing co co we. We are a melting part of fun here on amazing spider talk. Let's get into it. Dan amazing spiderman number sixty five. Let me start off with a with a broad view that you know there were some fun moments this comic but like a the only one who thought like there wasn't really lot spiderman. Yeah i mean. I can see that i mean it's definitely not peter story at the heart of this thing for what it was. I enjoyed it as a kind of wrap up to the lake. Robby lonnie lincoln thing. Unexpecting we're going to get a big spidey kingpin story in that giant size issue. That's coming out this week so if this puts that subplot to the side and allows that other thing to kind of take center stage. I'm i'm pretty okay with it. I mean what. I like these stories to be more about peter parker absolutely. I'm hopeful that the next one is going to be there. And i think that is the that is the knicks spencer. Respond to beginning. I'm always hopeful for the next one. I don't wanna like get too deep into the weeds of criticism. Here right on the onset. But yeah i mean like i get what you're saying and we certainly have had plenty of comics over the years Within this title in the ancillary. Titles where peter is not the central focus. And that's not always a problem. Were really you know. It's not a constant problem per se. But you know. I i think unfortunately with this creative team that we've had over the past couple years when when i feel when the bookstore as well too far from peter story. It's when i kinda start to worry about where it's going to go next. And the fact that we are kind of in the penultimate chapter granted we have a giant size one on deck lots of page space to to rectify things. But you know we also got a lot of page space in what issue fifty and whatnot so just saying my my not kindred alarm went off but my like where the heck is spiderman in the closing stages of a story alarm went off. So that's where. We're rick cook one up for that long title. Yeah exactly bullhorn But what are we. What are we talk a little bit about the art. Because i do feel that there was some standout art within this issue joked earlier that we had to federico's involved in this book have we had sabatini on inks prior to this. I don't recall seeing his name in the in the roster. I don't remember seeing him either. I think you know he just did the kind of like book ending here. The kindred stuff. I mean for me i think whether they judged it by first name or by arch dial. It was a decent match for federico. Vincent teeny i mean. It was like clearly in that. Same kind of light ballpark of style. But but i would say it was a significant. Step down from federico visentini stuff. You remind me of like back in the days. It's only for a few issues but we had like umberto rama's you know early work where. He was far more exaggerated than he is today. And then he kinda got filled in with francisco for like a couple issues here and there and you could just tell there was something off. It looked like ramos but it wasn't as brahmos has progressed isn't artists i think francisco herrera is really hung out around that early ramos kind of interpretation of his art and to me. This is kind of similar as federico. Saudi team looks like probably wear. Federico byzantine was as an artist like five years ago. Yeah it just felt a little looser and sketchy are not as clean as intini for whatever that was worth i i just. I had not recognized the name before and you know again like you know all all names name similarities aside. I mean they're like you said that it was somewhat similar but different enough. Where like those opening pages definitely definitely kind of shook me for a second. Because i was like wait. I thought visintainer was on. This book of them. Went like once we got into it was. Oh there isn't any. I also think it's a case of like where like alex. Clair's colors are very detailed. And there's a lot of rendering going on but then you get your pencils. And they're like so simple and you've got this like almost like clash between world where it's like one of them is like really rendering these characters and the other one is not really at all and it's like leaving. The color is to do a ton of work. And i just think it feels really lopsided when you look at it so as for the story itself you know we kind of get back to this seeing that. Frankly we've seen for the past two issues which is like barron morteau torturing kindred and kind of norman standing on the side feeling conflicted about it and kingpin. Kind of being gleeful about it. I guess we kind of move a little bit here but you know like kind of to my other point about the spy spider man peter stuff earlier just kinda felt a little samey to me until we got a little further into it but i guess we just kind of want to exhaust a little bit you know the bad guy and more does a bad guy and that norman might be not as much of a bad guys. He used to be sounds. Sounds like a fair assessment of character. Values here dan but like i don't know why we're we're devoting this much page space to this. You know. I just kind of like this would be much better. Space bent on getting inside of peter's head and there are some nice moments. Where we we get our classic peter swimming around the city kind of stuff in this case. He's like racing to get to you. Know sit save randy and and janice and everybody while talking to john and we'll talk about that moment later like i. I could imagine like using these pages on peter instead would would do. Well the counter our criticism. Because you're right it is very samy here. The only real thing that i got out of this. That was really knew. You know ignoring i still think is really truly weird narration from kindred at least i assume it's kindred that purple like boxes. I am not a fan of this. But there's the suggestion that only norman could hear kindred please well he was being tortured and that was a really odd note because it didn't seem to be like hey like kingpin and more to- are evil people so they're like tone death. It seem more like physically. Only norman could hear him speak. And i want made me wonder like we've not really dealt much with like people perceiving kindred differently within the same room and it made me think well maybe maybe there is something till i does does kindred appear differently to different people and then does that mean that. Maybe it's not harry. It's just appearing to be harry. Because norman is there right. I mean and i've seen that theory too. Damn but like i mean i feel like we've had enough people kind of verify at least to them. That attari if that is true. I feel like that through line. Hasn't been fairly depicted in over. The course of the last few years of this book is that makes sense. I mean a hundred percent agree with that. I'm just positing it. Because it seems like such a strange note to be so specific. About like i. If it red flagged for you in that way i mean if i could no prize it a little bit i would say i mean you know is it maybe because haven't reestablished that kindreds insects i don't know they are they worms or centipedes or whatever have crawled inside of like norman's head at some point maybe that like is like that part of him what speaking inside him and he can hear it. I i don't know that's that's my my wild guests to that. That's that's fair. yeah he is one of the few people that has that voice inside of his head and we saw the same is true with doctor octopus. Even before he got the worm at his ear was that he was hearing these voices. So i mean that's that's just a guess You know you could be right here. And i'm just saying if you're right. I think that's dumb. You're not dumb. Just that that that's a dumb development because thanks mark. Ooh yeah no no. No you're you're brilliant. Dan that would be to me a very challenging plot. Because i feel like we. That's just not it's not fair you know like you can't you can't change the game on people this far into a story but i don't know if necessarily this creative team cares about fair sometimes so we got some more kind of buddy buddy cop drama with tombstone in robbie and similar to last issue to me this. This was the highlight of the book from a narrative standpoint. The tombstone ravi relationship. I mean you could even possibly disagree with that day. No because i think the rest of the book is is kind of reveling in being like an art action showcase. And i'm okay with that sometimes especially when it's rendered this way so like yeah i mean to me. This was a lot of fun to read on the page seeing this kind of budding relationship between these two you're relating to each other about you know being a dad's you know i it's a classic situation same thing we got with you. Know jona and peter when they were you know. Brothers in law i if you will cousins and law. I'm not sure exactly how that works. Yeah i mean it's that classic two people are thrown together because their family members are romantically involved. I'm curious to see how this plays out because it seems like it's an on going to be an ongoing situation like you just indicated. I mean it's a common trope but at the same token like it's it's it's common because it works i mean you have to characters that are diametrically opposed and you know what brings them together is is something that is kinda have Unshakably common a love for a child you know like even lonnie lincoln loves his. Loves child is as robbie loves his. They have the same kinds of problems in terms of relating to their kids and their kids not listening to them and and it works. I mean you know. I don't think that lonnie in ravi are going to have some kind of true deeper understanding for each other when this is all over but like you know they have enough in common here to to unite. And like i said it just works a reason why it's tried but true in terms of kind of narrative structures here the inexperience of this duo being tricked by a dope like mirage. I mean i. I don't think i've ever actually seen mirage. Get the leg up on somebody unless it's like you know a wedding party So i mean you know victory garage here. I guess. I mean this is the classic superior foes moment where some dumb dope get is constantly backstabbing. Or i love that. He rubs name with robbie he's like article sounds good now like. Why didn't you approve my article. All about something. Flimsy is giving him a byline so i thought i thought that was a lot of fun. Of course madam mask appears surround. Everybody and then we get to like for me one of the highlights of the book. And i know it's going to sound lane that the highlights are always spiderman swinging around the city. But this one. I thought was really cool. The way the page transitioned 'cause you see spider-man kind of like like upside down but like you think right side up until you realize the whole background is slipped and so the pages like the birds are flying around the bottom of the page. I mean this is the kind of thing of like someone who's really having fun. Would with the artem this book. That's an awesome uptight down. Page from vincent teeny and is the kind of thing. Frankly you wish you saw more in a book about a guy who can swing himself upside down around cities and stuff like that. So that was a nice visual surprise to dec- and good narration. From peter it was certainly a fun. Way to transition into the book with spiderman. I mean you know again. Going back to what i'm saying at the beginning. I mean my complaint. Is i mean. We're what two thirds through this comic and he's just showing up and like you know we didn't even get like any kind of glorified like one. You know the the token one page intro earlier in the book where spiderman is like. We gotta find. I gotta find randy or something you know what i mean i gotta find boomerang know then like cut to all this other story. I mean like it literally just felt like oh right. We're in a man book and now here it just. It was just so kind of random that he finally decided to show up. But you're right very fun. Visually you know the next the preceding few pages of the big fight. I mean this is. This was top notch stuff from venture teeny you know page by page. Here i mean like this a lot to love from a visual standpoint. Yeah in before that. We've got like spiderman talking to jameson. Who's watching through the new costume and is relishing ha is it's robbie who has to be saved which i guess is in character for jameson. I don't think i've ever seen him like wish. Harm necessarily on robbie i guess there is jealousy as reached that point other james and certainly not one to shy away from lake potentially inflicting harm on those. We consider his rivals in some regard to me. This is just another lake. Ellipses on the potential drama being mined from the spiderman costume which like still felt kind of weird to have introduced in sixty one and kind of not do much with. I'll get into some theories. I have about it later on in the issue because i do think that where we're headed. This is going to play a big role. But you're right so that we turn the page and tombstone has a card up his sleeve and he calls in the syndicate to save them from that a mask and you get this like you said. Stunning full page from vincent teeny of the syndicate like bursting through the wall and the next few pages of splashes and and spread or just like seeing the syndicate in action. I was like okay. Like i enjoyed seeing these guys before from umberto rama's but this was something completely different and i like bought into every second. This is so fun. I felt very dynamic. I mean some of the dialogue. I could have done without. I mean like you know just kind of like oh you came anyway. It's like well. We're sisters i i i mean it's if it didn't ring totally true to me in terms of who these characters are kind of what they've been doing to each other in their limited appearances in this book but it was it was certainly visually fun enough in dynamic enough to kind of cover for that. And you kinda wanna keep turning the pages anyway to see what's happening next and you know on top of that you have crime master. You have madame mask. I mean there's just so much on each of these pages here. I mean like this is this is like i mean. We're not quite crisis. On the infant earth levels in terms of george peres but like there was a lot going on here. I like more more than we typically see in a spiderman book and it was very impressive. How the the battle was being staged and the color in the fun of it i i. I would say it's overwhelming but like in a way that you just want to lean into it a little bit more. You know because you know. All the details are going to be really enjoyable. And i think. I actually looking at our commissioned art here that's going to go out to our patrons from vinton teeny and it's exactly the same you know. It is just like jam packed and that kind of thing. He likes his action like heavy. And all over the place you know. I agree with you about the dialogue. I could have done without the linked in line. Which i thought was a little but i actually kinda liked the like. We're sisters line because it's like we're sisters. We're also being paid a time and it's like yeah right like he put on this begs but at the heart of it. You're still a criminal and you're kind of like guiding guiding light but yeah anyway so spiderman busting takes out the crime master and teams up with the syndicate as well which is just as drool worthy. You've got janice taking out that a match. She's no longer her biggest fan and spiderman takes down whoever the cry nassar. Is this time and this master. Six find out who cares roderick. Kingsley makes another book. Yeah right. I i love that like roderick. Kingsley has just like he's almost doubled down on the like everybody is. The hobgoblins is now like everybody. Is everybody right right right. And i don't know if this is where you're about to get into your speculation but robby has a warning to peter about jona here Which was kinda interesting you know in terms of you know to kind of be careful of them which you would think peter would be aware of but i mean like i said this is where you're going with your speculation with the suit dan or are you saving that for even later. No no i think this is a good point to get into it. I mean like your. It's joan right so like the other card is or over the other shoe. Always about to drop. Jonah has goals and he'll get there maybe not always the most ethically ethically whatever way. Sound way you know. We don't know where the suit came from. And i i you know. I think we're meant to kind of hand waved like it's just the threats and menaces sued you know there. Was this big ad in in this book. For the chameleon conspiracy or whatever. That book is being called where it's a split face between spiderman and chameleon may reminded me. Oh yeah we've got a chameleon story coming up. A chameleon story mean someone here is chameleon. Right i mean like he's been working behind the scenes for awhile and infiltrating things and plotting revenge on spider man in some way in you start thinking about the powers of this costume is to basically get insiders spider-man's head and view him from all places an unthinking what if the chameleon has something to do with you know this costume in some way or is working at threats and menaces and using that some way to control spiderman the there's something going on here and if the suit is not gonna play a big role in this arc. I think certainly is going to play a big role in the next arc. And this line here about jona seems to be the setup and so i am i i. I'm all of a sudden hugely sceptical about the suit and its proximity to something. Like the chameleon is that sound at all sound. Yeah yeah no. Totally tracks i do want to add that that house add with the chameleon completely threw me in terms of how was like spice into the book. Because they did it. It took me a couple of reeds to be like. Oh wait no. that's an ad. wait a second. I know chameleons coming in a future story. But it was a little little weirdly placed. But no. I think that's fair. And i think like you know it would be a kind of a logical next step because we kind of had for lack of a better phrase peter and jona on the phrase of a break-up awhile ago because of peter's lack in joanna and wouldn't it be fitting that like okay. He gives jonas essentially one more chance. Here and jonuz through jonuz greed and ignorance ends up like opening another serious threat into peter's life via the chameleon. I i don't think. I don't think joanna would be maliciously plotting against peter with the chameleon. But like you know obviously like you said it could be either nor a or someone who's like behind the suit or something that joanna is absent mindedly working with and and feeding very sensitive information to chameleon inadvertently so that tracks and again that art from that ad seems also kind of indicate as much so we shall see as weird as it would be to see jonah working with chameleon. We've also got married. Jane working with mysterious. So we're things happened. This is very very true. That that mini series for now did happen so That hasn't changed. The you want to talk a little bit about some of the other closing moments of this comic. I mean we have janice and randy despite kind of the reverse psychology plays of their of their fathers. They're going to move in with each other. You know is that to mean. Does that mean for people in the apartment or is peter finally gonna move out. Well i mean what's left of the apartment to right wasn't blow gatherings that's very true. I keep forgetting that. This is yet another apartment that peter had blown up on him. I would have to imagine that there's going to be some separate ways going here. We also don't know what the status of good fred is. Based on this issue. I mean this could get dicey for him as well right so like jumping past. The next scene wouldn't come back to it. You know we have seen spy Peter an mj and gog. And i'm wondering where this is located. I think wasn't she babysitting gog. So this would be in an apartment. Yeah jay's apartment so then. The question is is peter moving with. I'm jay and does that push him closer towards engagement and you know inflame the kindred thing which we assume is linked to that you know i i think that this is just a removing the pieces. Closer together in some regard so of course they use venues gog to track down fred and that seems to kind of move us closer towards while this giant sides. That's coming out tomorrow. Go back to this osbournes. We return back to federico sabatini's art to catch up on osborne. What is he doing so he so. He's blackmailing a guard to get into the cell next to kindred. So what do we what we think that's about. I mean do we do. We think norman's plotting with somebody is he trying to get closer to kin. What's your what's your take on this. Because like i. I kind of had a. I don't wanna say ambivalent read but i had i. I had a hard time figuring out where this might have been going. So i'd be curious to hear if you have a more concrete theory. 'cause i don't have a lot on this. I don't really have a concrete theory. I'm kind of like up in the air. About like who is isn't isn't at ravenscroft at any moment in time like one point juggernaut was there which like okay. I didn't really know how that happened. I know john jameson is like working there. But may you know but to me. It seems like maybe osborne is trying to set up like a diversion something that could cause chaos and ultimately allow him to free kindred or something like that. I don't really know but what's interesting. Is it kingpin. Git gave osborne a day to solve the kindred situation before he comes back. So whatever's going to happen with kindred and osborne is probably going to happen pretty soon i would have to imagine. Don't you love those. I will give you twenty four hours to screw everything up teals favor. No he's got meeting comics. I'm gonna. I'm the evil genius but i'm gonna walk away for a day right exactly exactly speaking of boomerang. He's an in bullseyes sites. He's in trouble kanan. Well yeah but who's to the rescue. I mean i think before we started recording. I referred to these characters. The defenders. But i don't know if they're technically the defenders it was a mishmash of of street level heroes and and maybe not so street level including hawkeye spiderwoman. Iron fist. luke. Cage jessica jones and we. We think wolverine like ninety percent. Sure wolverine right. I mean i'm half hoping it's demand like that would be my dream. But i don't think so. I'm pretty sure it's wolverine you know having these characters in the costumes that they're wearing given although the state of the x. Men right now who can really tell you got like classic brown suit wolverine. And you've got like maybe. I'm just not all way. I'm reading spiderwoman on marvel unlimited but last i checked. She was wearing a black costume. I don't know what's going on here but fine. I don't think the story needed the defenders in it. But sure i get i guess so. Yeah john jessica jones. So i mean fun stuff. I guess i don't know it's it's a very random team up it kinda has me a little concerned about the overstock. I mean it is a giant sized. So i guess i shouldn't call it over stuff. That's by proxy over stuff But i don't like it. Just how much plot are we really gonna win to answer in this book and how much of it is just going to kind of be like fluff in silliness in you know some action sequences and then you know and now onto the next story which you know we really. We really haven't had a good record of late of like ending stories and appropriate way where you actually feel like it's over so i i'm just wondering if we're being set up for more of the same year. Why yeah i mean i. I was really excited about the giant size because it seemed to be like okay this is going to allow us to end these stories and like big emotional notes rather than jamming it into twenty one pages or whatever but then you like added more elements into it. The last minute like i. I can't help but think about like the order of the web. And how little i cared about that and much less like wait. Why are we reading these dudes in if not just to sell books. But isn't the order of the web thing. Why not call them in on this one. I mean now. I'm getting silly. Say there's some kind of you know any kind of marvel. Mci thing going on that involves his character now. Not not right now at the moment It's like we're not. We don't have netflix. Shows right and seemed like strike royal. Yeah like you said. At least the order of the web would kind of work on another level but whatever it's fine we'll see what happens but this issue was just kind of filled with red flags galore for me in terms of where you know things that have happened in this story in the with this creative team for awhile now. So we'll we'll share with your internal optimism. Well there's always next issue but that's kind of my mo is to be a little more cranky than you. I think maybe i appreciated that. This little mini arc racked up and left us room to deal with the bigger thing in the bigger issue. So you know that. Might not come to pass. But when i get a book that looks like this. Even if it's not all art the pages. I got from him. Like i mean whatever. We've been spoiled on on spider for a long time. Even if it's not consistent maybe the the shock kind of worn off you know. But i read enough comics with art. I don't like that it's cool to see a comic have art that i do want to give a singer gray dan. Yeah i'm going to give it a c plus because the story was fine but the art put give it that extra nudge for me see. I'm actually right there with you. Which just goes to show that beauty is in the holder. We were talking this up. I was thinking like oh man. It's going to be a few notches higher than me on this. And you know he's gonna pick on being unfair and it's like no we're the same. I could give me a b minus. But i think over time like i've really adjusted my scale like you know what see flat see is average and i liked this more than the average issue. We'll the are the are elevates it above average for sure for sure did average story with with above average. Art would say absolutely agreed on that one so cool all right. Well thanks for talking to you about this mark. It's always a good time. No of course i mean. Let's let's let's rush to the other finale the finale of our show because it is that time time for all good things to come to an end so we want to say thank you to you. The listeners and viewers for tuning into this episode of the amazing spider talk. I think it should say on that mark. You know we. Are we having a like a really aggressive publishing schedule this summer firm aging spiderman and we have really discussed. How're planning on handling it. But for right now we're gonna try to take it as it comes. I think is the plan that might mean for episodes a month which is a scheduled. But you know. Hang in there. Everybody life throws a lot at you. So we'll we'll we'll see what happens but for right now i think mark and i are planning on kind of just taking this as we normally do one issue at a time. I mean you know if it turns out that sun episodes recorded on a monday or tuesday said of a sunday. Just bear with us folks. I mean that's that's life but we're we're we're here to talk comics in have some fun with it. Yeah absolutely well. of course you know. This episode wasn't made on our own. You know just mark and i. It was edited by rick. Coast with production support from andy myers and artwork. It always comes handcrafted by our favorite artists ron friends album and racer with our theme song produced by riling jack. Tony paxton and spider madge. This episode was originally released on patriots. Fan as a livestream. Hang out with us back when the comic was first released. So if you'd like to come help support. Our shows continued existence and these reviews while joining us on the livestream. 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Jenna and Al's Budget, Jeff's Court Case, Daniel's Tear Ducts
"And now lives in pod cabin in burbank. California is the alison. Rosen is best friend. Show tonight our guest. He's a man who likes his sandwich. Diagonal copy bar barbecued and his lipstick on smudged now he's a producer human petri dish and dealer and black market hugs. It's shoved jeff. And she's a comedian cosmic elevator. It's jenna kim. Jones tone zone is here to give a speech. That full dog whistles because it's a speech for dogs and he wants them to come listen daniels. Same hop onboard. love boss. Say hello to your new best. Ron alison or same. Hello my little watergate salads. Welcome to another exciting episode of alison rosen. His new best friend that particular. Tell you what's in it. I think you'll agree. Kind of gross carbohydrate was sent in patriotic poetry on by kathleen break field. Now what is the watergate salad you say it is. It doesn't even have any lettuce in it. it is a stash. Eeo instant pudding pineapple many marshmallows and nuts. And now that. I think about it actually is something i eat what you say. Jenna doesn't have cottage cheese in it. Oh are you familiar with this salad. Oh i'm familiar. Yeah i've had it lots of times. And in fact. I think we had it on easter this year. With your parents on besmirched guys odd. It's an odd salad tasted. I did not finish it. I was coming around to say. I think that actually i wouldn't mind it because it's sort of maybe a like cousin of ambrosia which i'm okay. Well yeah but i guess it started as a watergate cake or something. And it's i read an article about it and it was weird because it's like you've heard of the i'm forgetting all the examples but like different dishes named after hotels. Well the watergate salad was not named after the famous watergate. So i'm unclear where it comes from. But here's the thing it was sent in by kathleen break field on patriotic poetry on. I know already did it. But i just want to again all sorts of stuff on patriot daniel and i just recorded a bonus episode to get weekly bonus episodes you get zoom parties. You get this video when it is on zoom and i am in the process of getting this situations sorted out video wise so soon you will get videos of all the shows but i'm just not. Hey but this one yes you will get this one. And there's a level where you can text me. And i will text you back and then as daniel jokes and even higher level where you can text you can wear. I'll leave you alone. It's also the fun stuff. I am overjoyed to say. Hello to today's guests. Jenna and how. Hello hello can i just say watergate. Cake is a family favorite around this house. Wow yeah that's the the possession cake. Well we just call it. The statue stands look at the recipe. It does say watergate. So how does it. what's in it. What's different between from. I've lost the ability to speak which is wonderful. When i'm hosting a show but talk me through the watergate cake to watergate salad. So if the only thing that they have similar is the So water salad has like extra things like fruit and walnuts and you can put those things in watergate cake. But we don't but we do. It's it's the easiest recipe. It's a white cake. Mix with estacio putting sprite instead of water. Whoa way oil. Cook it up or mix it up addssome. We like to do semi sweet chocolate chips. But it in the oven and then the frosting is just stash e putting in cool whip and milk whipped together. Slap it on top kids love it. You put some stashes on it. We'll bring in cheese platter. We owe you. yes you haven't written in. i want. I want hot from the rv cheese and pistachio cake. Dunn's jeff hello welcome. It's so nice to see you just boater thank you. I'm excited to be here. I know you have some stuff to talk about. So we're gonna get into that daniel quads. Hello wearing mirrored sunglasses. This started because he went to the doctor today. I don't mean to as fun. I mean to undermined your cool guy image. But he went to the doctor today and his eyes were dilated. And they put like little plugs in his tear. Ducts or something. That i dr professor bit. Yeah you did see an eye doctor bitch today even though you are you. Are you talking in a lower register to match your merits. A everything you said is just about the coolest shit. Anybody who's listening earned too so i got nothing to add. I got i got prescribed a get ready progressive lenses canadian. How your is feeling fucking. They're finally not super dilated but still a little bit dilated. Looked like my eyes. look like Like i was donald trump. And how how're you doing now with these little plugging things in your ducks. Which is gross. When i think about it. Has anybody had this done anymore. What is it. i don't get it. Oh jenna you shouldn't speak when you don't know what you're talking about. Listen i you okay. Godfather cut it once. I had an idea. Apparently i didn't know this either jenna. The your tear ducts are actually a drain. I didn't that's not where the that is. Not where the tears come out. that's where they drain. Oh so that was plugged cane so that when the tears come out the stay you know. Stay in. Business is business. I've vaults that's what i call my eyes out acres. 'cause i'm a dude. Yeah well alison said. Are you going to cry now. I said fuck that shit especially especially not now. Two girls and babies. I'm not gonna cry. No but now. I can't i can't cry. You know what i mean like. Sometimes you cry just flushes. No one knows you're crying now it'll just it'll be like it'd be like a cartoon where the tears start to pile up on your lids fall out. I can't like one of those like cartoon. Imagine a mickey mouse cartoon where the sink is were the bathtub like goofy. Forgot to turn the faucet off. It'd be my eyes. Yeah well anyway fucking hurt. Did she said it wasn't gonna hurt. But i think she thought the numbing. Drops hadn't worn off yet that i'd gotten earlier but they had. What are the what are the used to plug him as a little like a baby bathtub. A wax there's like a little plug with a tiny little chain. No it's like a. It's like a very small. I don't know what it's made out of silicon probably silicone basically like a small tube. I think like or small rod gang had like these little tweezers shared. It felt like someone was sticking a of your eyeball did felt like adding my tear duct and then did you have the sensation that you want to get it out really no no but hours later I like just. I have a habit of you know like yeah crust in the middle like get that out except that's right where it is so i'm like putting pressure on it and it's like and then it feels like i have a splinter in my tear dot com. And they did this on purpose. Yeah she thought waterboarding yeah. I'm so desperate. Though is so dry. And i told her i was like well. You know it feels like in the morning. Sometimes if i'm woken up at this really particular window to our window. It feels like someone has just taken sandpaper on. My eye hurts. She's like yeah. That's because your eyelid sticking your when when it opens. Its riffing off skin. This is this is not body horror. Podcast it's like ripping it off. Yeah dr kronenbourg my doctor. Should i not have okay daniel. I'm glad you're eyes are feeling better. Although now everyone here feels worse. I need to say hello to tony. Paxton hello welcome back. Hello i have things to say about this situation. Because i can identify. I was waiting to be introduced though before i spoke. Thank you. I appreciate your civility. Podcast vampire enter your home and vitamin so even by this. Yeah real fast. What is up with that rule. Is that like we're who invented the rule that vampires can't enter unless they're invited in because my exposure to blame culture like it's victim blaming culture. Honey it's like. Hey grand. Yes i limit your own phone but really i encountered it on that show true blood but i had never heard of it before that but it seems knows driving for writers. But sorry tony good. Yes all right tony. You're you are. You've been invited in all what i want to say was i did know this about the tear ducts. Because this my right. I i have a blocked tear duct in this i so this waters a lot and it has been that way for a very long time it when i was in first grade i had surgery on this i and had the tube put it in this is to try and fix it actually ended up not working And in my first grade photo my school picture. I literally the tube literally came out of my eye and went up my nose. It's tiny it looks. It was basically like a piece. It looked like a piece of string. Like it's not big at all. But i literally had a big white piece of tape on my nose to help. Hold it down in my in my first grade picture. Was that traumatic for you to have surgery when you were in first grade it a little bit but also i had a lot of problems as a kid I was in the hospital a lot. Actually i had yeah. I had just lots of asthma and allergy issues but then also Urinary problems to like tubes in my ears and my eyes and yeah so i had. I had I wasn't unfamiliar with the hospital as a kid. Wow must have been hard on your folks. this is about me right now. Very parents say daniel. I know i always think of things down. Like oh my god if that happened elliott our own always know. So you're kind of half daniel. Tony plugged docked. Your sorry all. I was just gonna say wait forty years later. It's still it's still messed up. I tried to check in years ago. I went to dr again to see if anything could be done about it. And apparently there's just something extra weird going on with my right eye to the point that this is dr actually wanted. She asked if she if she if i minded if she took photos so she could show them because it was such a week. No you never were johnson more with that help. You never want the doctor to be like. Hey come in here. Can you get the students. No i was only in the textbooks. Yes i mean the end of the day. It sucks but at the end of the day it could be much worse. It just means. I have a watery. i'll the tone i never. I've never noticed. But now white hardware sound. The col- cold weather makes it happen a lot worse. So is it weird for you to hear about someone who wants that. Tried to get rid of it. Because i feel like i've never been involved in a tear duct conversation that i didn't start. Well if we give the people what they want. You know so speaking of children. Jenna you are three and a half weeks away from by the time this comes out less. I'm like two and a half by the time you know how so. You were induced with your first. Two right yes. I was induced with sam after ten days of being over cooked. I was induced with dylan on my day. Because i begged and then this one unless it comes early which i've had some action. There have been contractions. I'm a little bit dilated. So stuff is happening. But because i have no hope that i will actually go into labor. I'll probably get into stride around my due date. That's exciting though that your body starting to to get ready. Are you guys ready. This is a terrible question. This is like asking someone who graduated like. Oh so what are you gonna do now but anywhere you already we. We finally bought a car seat and because we threw away our other one it was so disgusting and this kid gets a brand new one and we got a bassinet and we got put the crib together he put together and then i have a few ones where we're ready sure. I think that's like you know you get to the third. And you're like they'll be fine resilient. I finally bought some bottles. But the thing is i bought these things but i haven't unpackaged them or wash them or done all the things you're supposed to do so you know whatevs workout. It'll be fine. yeah that'd be. Do you have a changing table. Setup who yes. We kept the one from dylan so we have that one still. Nothing matches this child lake. Nothing is cute. Someone asked me the other day because they wanted these. Oh i wanna. I wanna get you a little something. What's your theme and colors for this baby boy like Survive and hand me down color. We have just even colors. Yeah apparently that's a thing people do now like you just like pirates you just make orange your patterns and textures. Hell you'd have a theme with Sammer dillon did you know we are zainy lane. The least it's like literally. Like i had a friend who did like safari and you know light green and khaki yeah exactly and then i know someone who had triplets and each kid was a different animal a boy and then based off of that the consider this is like when heading our wedding i was asked. What my favorite flower is. I suppose to have one. Because i don't this. is this time. Two thousand yeah so then if you choose a theme like aliens and and then the kid has did like dresses and alien all the time. He deleted related close. Yeah horns it last. I don't like when they can choose their own theme. That's right at the certain age. Yes no. I don't know it was such a weird question that i i was baffled. Like it was one of those moments. Where i'm like does not compute. Are we speaking the same language. And i didn't have a good answer. And then i probably offended her because i was like i don't would lie. That doesn't make any sense exactly so occurred to me. We have these new drops from betsy. Cro which you. i just heard. And they're my new favorite drops. But there's something familiar about her voice and i was thinking earlier. Oh my god. Does she have a voice. That's actually similar to greg hellers voice and i think we need to have a drop comparison or a drama. California raises are so cool. You don't wanna google how to wash baby's dog shit really so nice way. That's cool bro. That's the way she goes now. Hell yeah boehner sandwich. that's it. That's all i got. They are just do. Just do one of those again help. Turt- they are really similar. they are similar definitely. I like men who look young and are hairless. Just nubile is the best word we gotta get the two of them. I wonder if he knows that his voice is some. I'm sure he knows his she. Is we gotta get found. Betsy grow up in california. She california's colorado. I believe yeah. That's right that's the california of the midwest. That's what everyone i'm new doggy. The mid west jokey guys. So i have a question. I have a lot of stuff. I have a lot of stuff to get to know where we're going to get to all of it. But i do have a question for everyone here. Do you guys have a budget because daniels did you see perk up. He's he's the light is back in his eyes. Hello we so. Elliott just started preschool and it is very early in the morning and it's as if i suddenly well i do suddenly have to go somewhere early in the morning. I have to go to his school. But it's as if i have started school again or something it's like i'm very stressed about getting up in time and he only needs to bring three things to school. He needs to bring a snack. He needs to bring water and he needs to bring extra masks but i am back in school. I'm afraid that i'm gonna forget one of these things but anyway that's a separate point. The point is elliott start started. Preschool cut that check this morning Owen will be starting so it's like we're looking so i'm just trying to keep in mind. Okay so the we've got their preschool tuition and then the other things and then you know. Let's just and daniel and i were saying i think daniel was saying it more but i was agreeing like we should just make a budget. So it's like written down so we know here's our expenses every month and so we can kind of forecast figure out stuff and if our was nodding anymore violently his head he would get whiplash. It's kind of surprising that we don't have we haven't done did it. Did at one point we just It's been a while the way we operate is like whenever there's a major shift and his only happen once all right. It's got we'll do it again. Let's pattern so it's what we do. This shit a major major shift like we're going to be incurring some new expenses. Whatever create a budget just so we know where within the budget so we have a sense of it. We're not like rigidly like. When was the last shift when you got laid off. I think when we bought the house dog daniela's not currently let off but he did get laid off some years ago and that created some panic for me but he was real cool about it like like the cool guy he is and then he just like quickly got a job and it was all fine and i thought i really do as fuck to worry that those though is Lucky scenario for me. Yeah it was. Okay so al and jenna yes tell me about. Your budget can do the numbers. Here's budgets. come up regularly in our house. al has to basically catch me in a good mood. Timing down a tape my eyes open and then talk free through the budget a lot of walking and shuffling papers going like since i have you if you anyway. I know we talked about that food thing. But anyway while. I've got your attention with a quick line. Four that's very much and i. You know what every time we do it in the end i appreciate it because it does give me knowledge and i understand how much money we're spending in why we're spending it and all that and i do appreciate it but i have to say that my initial reaction to having to go through the budget is always very stabby. So yes we have a budget. But i don't think it's like we're not we. We have a general sense. It's not like a very thorough. You know i for him. it is but for. It's like i've seen it. I have a general sense of it all hope you know. It is thorough. Beautiful one page spreadsheet broken down by month and line-item. I don't budget a grocery. I just say like we want to stay under about this amount. I don't go like every week. Eighty dollars so. I don't get down to that detail but i actually went back for a full year of expenses and said like. Oh this is what we spend on like mosquito service bug service. The annual thing hits in march broke down. All the ran every instance. Yeah what are we saving. Had all down on the spreadsheet. It's a really. It's a beautiful thing. It really is beautiful. And i should appreciate it and so then when you spend money. Are you like tracking it in books or something like that. Now no we do not. we don't track it. I pay all the bills. We have joint like we do everything together. But i'm the one who worries about it and pays it. You're the me. Yeah except your way more organized than i am up to al's budget sounds a lot like what i created so i don't know i don't know that you want it to be too. I don't lie very rigid. Yeah i like. Having the flexibility in spending splurging share but mine is more of a. I don't want to get out over my skis russell. A lot of our budget is just going. Oh we have this much extra each month. Were good like within reason. This is right right right. yes yeah i think. How much do you budget for. Skis spreadsheet we ever extra long skis. So you can't go to them. Yeah yeah yeah. That's all we need to do. Basically just look at like. What are we bringing in. How much do we know. Every month is going out and then you know it's really like knowing that we can afford what were previously preschool preschools. Expensive elite we're checks yes. It is a shocking. How expensive it is i. I went to a private school from kindergarten through eighth. And i think it was like maybe five thousand a year and i remember thinking. Wow that's so expensive. And it's like if preschool was five thousand a year that would be so much more affordable than it is disorder by design. Burbank has really good public schools. So it's only so we won't be sending them to private school after preschool. Yes that we're on. Yeah we're on our last year of the private school this year. And we're like oh yeah public school this coming up next year. Yeah coaching tony. Jeff you're both fairly organized people. I'd say pretty organized very organized. What's your budget. he situation. Invite you into the podcast house. I don't have as much of a. I probably should have a budget or no. I definitely should but Yeah i. I'm pretty free wheeling with it admittedly and definitely stand to be better about it. But you know it's just me here just me in bentley so nobody nobody the he's not gonna call me out for spending too much money so back when you are all wife'd up did you guys do it like a little bit kinda sort of but not really. I'll admit that. I i definitely should be better about it than i am. It's not fun it's not fun. Don't better about these. Things mentally disagrees fun about donald corn. He loves it. The numbers matching like the after. Add up kind. Fun i mean. Yeah jeff what's your stance on this. I think it's good to know. I think it's i enjoy a beautifully built spreadsheet. I think it's a thing of art. And a thing of beauty thing of craft and things of science and things like h. I don't keep a budget per se anymore. I keep track of all the money that i spent. So i can look at it and sort of analysed my spending in the past so that if i want to spend money i can say well. How much did i spend on travel last year. And then if. I want to travel this year. How does that compare to that. But i don't. I don't have any kind of kooky extravagant expenses everything's pretty fixed. And just just now. I i definitely live well below my means. So it's just. It's never really an issue for me to have to budget right in terms of looking forward. Does anybody get the year end credit card statement. Oh yes they like. I popped up. And i love looking through that that that i enjoy. That's my big retrospective budget. And then i'm like no credit card statements. I agree with everything that jeff and in our what you were because i do that stuff for a living. So i'm like into that as well but the problem with credit card statements or bank statements for me. Is that so often. You don't know what the fuck the charges like. Charges are the categories wildly inaccurate. Yeah yeah or some code it's like it's this z x. one-two-three like it's like what is this i. That really frustrates me. And that's why. I don't like doing it because there's a lot of manual effort having to go through it and clean up every line item and yeah yeah. I think i will say part of the reason that i don't like facing it is that i don't want to stress about it. It's very selfish because it's like. I don't wanna go like ooh. This feels uncomfortable. Or oh maybe i spent too much or ooh that's like are we saving enough and idol. I want to avoid that. Yes not the way that. But i don't want it like even if it might happen. I'm like ooh. I don't want i don't even wanna know if i might have to ask for that feeling that way about like expenses that have no choice about you. Know if it's something car related or school or something to us. Obviously we have some choices within a certain range. But like when when it's like you've got to spend the money because this thing just came up and it is what it is. I it's like those are the expenses where i'm just like just just hit with it and let me deal with it later because that that's not in my control but if it's like oh you want to buy a new pair of shoes or something. You know computers something then. I don't mind knowing knowing more about daniel. Got up sold expensive face serum from his dermatologist and asked how much it was and he said. I didn't ask because shampoo if you have to ask. You can't afford. This is natural. This is so my research get that for free. No speaking of beautiful skin. I don't know if you guys can tell how beautiful my skin looks right now. I have new. that's right. I've been using tretinoin which is the generic retin-a and a bleaching cream to fade my sunspot and really it's my skin is looking smoother and less dark spotty than ever ever before in my mouth. That's someone who told me that. 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We'll be fifth one and it just sounds like bs. So ricky was like no science. scientists have found found. the taste buds are the receptors. For your mommy and for some reason it just happened to hit me in a way where i was open to it. Most days i wasn't but on this day i was and then a listener wrote in and said scientists have isolated emami. That sent seasoning in the store. That is you mommy. So i bought and i remember accent. I remember the commercials. From one hundred years ago it would be food that was black and white and then they would sprinkle accent on it and it would turn to color and so bottled msg. Yeah it's monosodium glutamate. And by the way they were all these stories about how monosodium glutamate gives you a headache. But then those were disproven but it really fell out of favour. Did you just light a fake cigarette. I don't know what you're talking about. My god damn. You're so cool. So anyway we bought knack says fuck accent and daniel and i both tasted it last night. If this was a really weird snapchat but it does have. I just assumed it had like no flavor and somehow reacted with the food to give it flavor but it does have like a specific flavor. It's like what phil rosenthal said on my show it's save. It's something that savory without being salty. So i guess i am now a new mommy believer figure out what it tasted like though. It didn't even seem like how to taste vaguely salty. But not right on anything or did you just like poor right on your tongue. I licked my finger and then dipped it in. But then i did. I had a delicious treat of cabbage. And i did just like stuff up and i did a sprinkle a little bit on the cabbage and chats and then i read that half a teaspoon is supposed to season four to six servings of something and i thought i just put way too much difference on your food. Not really well. You are only eating cabbage though. Yeah so how. I mean really weird right and also that even wanna bring out the flavor in your cabin no no dialogue down so anyway. I just want everyone to know that. I now believe anew mommy. It's taken me years and years but i'm finally here okay. Jeff yes you recently enjoyed legal and judicial success to tell i did. I believe i've spoken about this on the show a little bit previously but some years ago we were talking about before the show started I had the engine rebuilt on my beloved subaru outback wagon. And the guy's totally screwed it up. They were total from the start but then they screwed it up. And we're doing the math on it. And i think this has been going on since i was producer of the show. So she's this. Ordeal started in september of two thousand eighteen. And i just got a judgment on it a few weeks ago. And i still haven't collected the money that's going to take. God knows how long but this. So we're we're coming up on a three-year ordeal me trying to get an engine rebuilt and just wild. How patient all the way. And so these guys have had them rebuilt the engine and they said it would take seven to ten days and a wound up taking him seven weeks to get done and as soon as i got back and started smoking out from under the hood. Now if the tailpipe and they're supposed to be a three year warranty with it and every time i took back then they were just like dog ate my homework. We didn't find anything. We think it's fine. Have it back after. They kept three weeks after like five laps of this. I just said screw these guys. They're not going to honor the warranty. And i i mean assume. But then i got laid off my job so i was looking for jobs. I punted a little bit for that. And then kobe started. So i couldn't deal with it during cova but then car blew up during my first drive in like super lockdown quarantine like. Remember when it was like. Don't nobody goes anywhere. nobody does anything. Yeah i was totally in locked down. Then i was like what going a little goofy. I'm just gonna take the carmen and do a little lap around the freeway. Get a get a little fresh air and whatever and blew up on the freeway. Gosh yeah so. I'm standing on the side of the five with not a lot of traffic. There's nobody was driving but like you don't with steam coming out from under the hood and average is standing there going like well. At least i'm outside this. This is this is a plus. But you know it was a stressful time feel like dealing with a down car much less suing somebody anyway when it broke down the how did you. What did you do it. It overheated and shutdown and a lot of other things. But i just wait until it cooled off and i had some antifreeze in the trunk and so i waited until it cooled down a bit and then i put antifreeze in. Although there was oil caked up in the coup in the coolant reservoir and radiator is not supposed to be there for people. Aren't car buffs. There's not supposed to be oil in radiator. So i just poured everything that i could in there to try and get it liquefied so that i could call down the engine so i actually got it. Restarted and like limped it home But then wouldn't start after. That has stressful. Yeah it was the worst. But but the weird thing was like daniel with the crazy budget items. It was like there's nothing i can do about this. Just you know it's like you can't even get stressed out about it. Like it's just your scrutiny. And do that is how he felt about the serum. Yeah listen every year. You gotta figure you're going to be hit with unexpected skin. Care product about your eighty dollars sham. Listen lino the shampoo exactly products happen. What are you gonna. is this guy this guy. I mean those results. I'm making a circle around danny on my zoom screen. It's like this is not a cost. This is like this is like a truck. It makes you money. This the moneymaker us okay. So go ahead jeff. So so anyway. I wound up having to sue them. And there's a whole process without like. You can't just sue somebody to do all this lake. They can be total dick's. But you as the sewer as the plaintiff legal expression you have to do everything perfectly right like you have to get all the paperwork. They could just be total dick's every step of the way. But like you as the plaintiff. Like if you don't the i and cross the t on the right form and give it to the right person it's like boom. You're you're you're fired. Rejected start over again. So it's like you have to do everything right and they can just get away with doing everything wrong so anyway sued them. The trial date was during the height of cova So i was not what you call it vaccinated by dance. I was like i'm not getting covert over this crap. It's bad enough as it is so i just did it over. Zoom and zoom connection was horrible. I couldn't hear anything. The judge was saying anything that the defendants were saying. They could barely hear me. And i was just like i saw prepared my case though i was like i i've watched you know every episode of perry mason in preparation and i was just like fuck it. I'm just going to present my case. I don't care if they can hear me on here if i can hear them. This is a rock solid case. Whatever so i just power through it. I was like i need this to be over and i one. Yeah oh wait thank you but then they can appeal for no reason like you don't even have to have you just say i want to appeal and then the court says okay. Let's do the whole thing over again. So they appeal the case. So i had to do the whole thing over again on evidence. Submitted to the court blah blah blah and. It's like a brand new. Try like just because they said like. Hey let's let's have a do over. Like i can't say let's do over but vacancy do over. So they say let's have a do over so they were really not have to. They don't have to submit grounds for appeal. They just asked for one. Yeah yeah that'd be based on anything. I mean this claims court so it's probably more fudgy than court would take this all the way to the supreme court baby exactly so this is the fun part of the story was i had appeared remotely for all the other stuff but i was vaccinated by this time by the time. The appeal case came up ants. I was like i'm going in. I'm shown up in. I'm going to crush this thing right. So i go to the courthouse and every time i had been at this mechanic's place. I was dressed like a scumbag. What's worse for scumbag. And i also i always. I was dressed like a car dude. When i was there. You know to like let them know. Like i'm not some chump. I know about cars like you're not gonna snow me so which is basically looking like scumbag so it's court so i figure you wear a suit to court number one number two it's cove it's like i'm putting on top hat and tails to change the litterbox because like any excuse to dress up. I'm all months in in my jammies. And yeah so. I wind up wearing a suit to court and also i have a lawyer friend that told me if you wear a suit to court or filing papers they treat you really nice because they think your lawyer and everybody else. They'll treat like shit like even the clerks when you're turning paper you're there in a suit. They're super nice anything short of that and they're just total to you so i wore suit so i show up and also i'm wearing a mask because it's still cove it and so on waiting in the hallway outside the courtroom and because i was dressed in a suit and because i was wearing a mask they showed up and they didn't recognize so the defendants are sitting there literally. Two people away from me talking about me and discussing their strategy. Oh wow because they thought i was a lawyer and even had like a little computer bag and it's like i literally looked like every learn place and like the only people wearing suits with the lawyers like you wouldn't believe what people were wearing to court and people were just dressed like they were going to wash their car. It was unbelievable and a woman that was with the defendant in my case. She's like their accountant or something. She's wearing these fuzzy boots. That looked like something out of star wars. She looked like an e walk and then like it was just crazy but anyway so they're standing there discussing their case and talking me openly right in front of me like like an arm's length away from me. Wow yeah and i was really nervous but then once they started doing that i was like i'm going to win. And and so we went to check in for the case in our case was because it was an appeal case and so they said you know jeffrey fox versus company that name later and so i let them walk up first and then i walked up behind him and they said oh which part of you and they said we're fill in the blank engine company and they said where's jeffrey fox and they said oh he's not here he's going to. He's going to appear remotely. I don't know why they would say that And then the clerk turns. I'm literally standing next to the mechanic. And he says who are you. Are you the lawyer for jeffrey fox. And just look at him. I said i am jeffrey fox and the mechanics. Yeah it was really fun. So we went through the court case and the judge resist so annoyed by them. That yeah i mean. The judge practically told them to get out of his courtroom. That would imagine that if you don't have a strong reason for an appeal that it's really gonna piss off a judge for waste out. Yeah that's that's the thing that i took away from. This was like you know. Everything's supposed to be kind of like official loyally by the book. But it's like if you piss off a judge you're screwed you know it's like they're human too and deal with so there was so much shenanigans that i witnessed lake just waiting for my case that come up that like it. This is my advice. You not a lawyer. If you have to deal the judge just like just. Don't be a dick like you are. Give yourself such a leg up like people are such like maniacs and like just be cool and so yeah. They had no grounds. They were completely unprepared. The judge actually said to them during the trial like we. Don't the judge like you've had like eighteen months to prepare for this. Don't you think you should have been prepared for this. How fun so satisfying. Yeah so like. I didn't even you know the judge asked me stuff. And then he s them stop neutral. He comes back. Do you have anything else to say and was like i didn't even say anything else because i was like i'm not going to kill the lily. Judges clearly trying to get out the door to go to lunch like this isn't going help but anyway so then i got the judgment that i won So that was pretty satisfying. But now i'm in the process of collecting. Which is just a whole nother. Birds like it's high as much work as filing the suit and it's the same process over again you you basically like you've got the judgment court. Says this person is bad they have. They screwed up. They have to pay you x. Thousand dollars and and if they don't wanna pay it's like tough crap like it's it's your problem jeff. The court will not enforce the judgment so you have to like go to the courthouse file more papers which costs money time and then of course you have to have. Everything's filled out properly. And then you take them to the sheriff and you have to pay the sheriff to deliver them to the person and then it just this whole process and just the burden of like time and expense is completely on the plaintiff. It's just a total joke. The sounds like a real nightmare. But congratulations jennifer. You have experienced with this not with Small claims court. But i went to court a few times with my brother when he went through some stuff. And it is incredible. What you see and learn and It's so eye opening. But i agree with the judge thing like if you mess with the judge. They get annoyed because it's like they can see through so much to like when people are faking or lying or they've just seen at all and so i've seen judges just be so fresh. Yeah yeah yeah. They've they've heard everything free thing. You're not fooling them. You know if you're in there and you're like snow jobless guy and the person that you're in there against has paperwork prepared you're you're done exactly jeff when you heard them talking about you in front of you. How did that make you feel. It made me feel very confident. I mean it was. It was wildly amusing. Like i had to actively prevent myself from snickering. But it it it. It gave me unbelievable confidence because first of all they just sounded like total maniacs. They had no plan for what their case was going to be. Or how they were going to present it or whatever. But i also heard them say. We've only been sued five times this year. That's that's pretty good. Yeah and i. I've been in business myself for decades. And i've been sued zero time. Yeah if the difficulty of suing and collecting like our make it kind of incentive heaviness out don't disincentivize fraudsters absolutely because with my case depending on how you want to slice the judgment. It's like somewhere between thirty. Four hundred and five thousand dollars was at stake right so on the low end. It's like thirty four hundred dollars. Take into account all the time grieve that i have into it. Plus like the sunk cost. I am not going to get back in any way whatsoever. And it's like i'm out. Maybe six hundred dollars in hard costs that are recoverable so my point being that like i did it because it was the right thing to do and i didn't want to let them get away with it but you can absolutely make the argument that it's not worth it financially to do it. I don't know how you would walk away from something like this but the can really be made that like that is the smart thing to do financially. This doesn't make any sense and small claims court is easy and it's simple relative to regular court but it's still a huge pain in the ass. So yeah i can see a lot of people that have a great case and it's like it should be judged in their favor but there's no way you would take it on too much grief. It's like i worked myself. I don't have kids. I have flexibility. I know how to work a computer. You know it's like i've worked at companies that do legal services like i've a leg up and it was a complete pain in the ass like if you had a family stuff to take care of a nine to five job where you can get on the phones like. There's no way you could access this kind of justice. Had you asked them for your money back yes you have to. So that's that's the first thing you have to do is to send them a demand letter so you have to send them a registered letter saying blah blah blah. This is the this is. What's going on with the case and i hereby officially requests for you to give me my money back and if you don't do that i don't think you cannot sue someone like you have to do all this due diligence ahead of time like you have to do everything perfect and give them like ten bites at the apple to make it straight. It's such a pain. Well congr- also legal term. Congratulations then it does sound like a humongous pain in the ass. But it does. But i'm happy that you won. Get my judgment on buying everybody many bikes from this. What i took away from this really is the wear a suit thing over sure ever had a court. I'm wearing a suit. Nice i mean it's it's an excuse to go into the fucking problem leaving house. We'll listen. I want to tell you guys about a podcast that some people that i really like do and i think you're gonna love it. And it is called the sloppy boys. And it's from our pows jeff dutton. Tim cow packaging. Mike hanford who are also in a kick ass. Rubber band called sloppy boys and their shows about cocktails each week. They drink and discuss a cocktail recognized by the international bartenders association. They also have a great patriot. Fan where patrol as they call them get access to the sloppy boys. Blow out a weekly bonus episode where the guys will talk about music. Movies tv shows are honestly anything. Damn well please and you don't have to be a drinker to enjoy it. They're just having fun. And you'll have a blast listening so check it out for a funny boozy wild time. The slobby boys podcast. She's on spotify apple anywhere. You get your podcast. So they've all been on my show. Tim keller who is a frequent guest on. The thursday show is just hilarious. He his twitter account. His alter egos linda underwear and i cannot get enough of linda the best and because so on the most recent epa patriot bonus episode that daniel and i did. I was sharing that. I'm looking for a name for our patriot. Bonus episodes adriaan. Jeff had suggested boehner showed a long time ago. I do like that. I'm looking for something that's like 'cause okay so more best something that's like you know. Like sloppy boys have. The saba was blowout. Low out the boys. What do they call it. something. I just said it. Yeah the blow out and have the dope boys double. I need like my version of that. The it's the forever version. not spending. I was thinking something like a spin off a friendship. More best friends though is kind of what the thursday show internally is referred to as but then daniel and i were like veered totally against the like sweet cute image because i feel like maybe people like stuff that's tough and then the annual you wanna share what we finally arrived at the. I think it's better if you say it. Okay it's eat addict. Go fuck yourself. Daniel help you come up with that one. Yeah we were joking. We're not really going to call it that we were joking around about that and we thought it was so funny and so when the episode aired over the weekend was like here it comes. Everyone's gonna be so delighted by this. I have not received one positive comment about napping. Can't imagine this really person thinks it's funny. Big obama dixie. The big eater bag addicts like suck it bitch. It's almost like people. Don't want to be told that i know it's weird. I mean we had just a string of similarly feisty names and no one liked any of them so maybe we won't go in that direction people have spoken. people have not spoken. Not maybe like. I'm speaking. You could split the difference. So like alison rose you. New best friend versus that horrible months drops. Ashby like alison. Rosen is a big pain in your ass. That's kind of like a middle thing to say. Chaff like the nice in the gas tank on half. Alison rosen annoys daniel. And now you to listen. Let's do an tunes comment of the week. Which daniel has his comments his she hers. Some get five dollars. Is this one review. Yes it's onto pages with this crossed out. Bit ted joe rogers out of bring rehearsal the crossed out bit. Is this crossed. That says her husband. Daniel is so handsome and cage one. Well that is not what it says. But the crossed out bent is the on page to my printing. Printing game was sloppy. Okay let's see. Let's do the show operation here all right here. we go. this is the best podcast by hope helper. This is my favorite podcast super great and funny segments great music for segments. I have been an active listener for about five years. I love allison and love. Each of the thursday show members. She's cultivated white l. areas crew of amazing regulars who constantly make me laugh her husband. Daniel is a hoot. I love that even when it's people who have never met before i'm sorry take these off. I can barely read not reading. Slow too perfect. I love that wheel to the guy who hey adopt. Hey mistakes last night. I laid it. Hey yes honey. Easy diego's a hoot part. I love even when it's people who have never met before everyone seems so at ease and laughing. I think allison is one of the best interviewers ever in my opinion her questions or probing it thoughtful. So they don't seem rude. You can tell. She says what's on her mind but still manages to frame it. In a way that makes it sound not robotic or gossipy. Listening is like palling around with my friends. I super appreciated her keeping it. So real during lockdown. I think as a listener. The authenticity helped me not feel alone. Do hope she will continue to do. Occasional zoom shows with former thursday show members. Jay j. and the hashtag al and chef. Jeff keep the great stuff coming. Alison thank you. That was woman that was very nice. Listen sometimes i will also a negative. But i don't have a negative read but i could make one up lose. Show they just talk about and things that smoke rose a used to like it but now it's boring. Oh she knows is talk about boring stuff. Not the interesting stuff that i used to like and also i liked it better when these people were on. I don't like this person. And but i do like these people and she's narcissistic and i don't know how her husband puts up with her at that out. That sounds like that. sounds like the rant. I did recently about when people comment about our podcast and out. They'll owl say this is jenny. Show it's jenny. Show and then i get all the hate mail that's like why don't you let al shine. I'm like ow. Stop saying it's my show because people think abusing you and not letting show way. Do they really get up your buns about that. Yes i get like you don't even you don't even appreciate how he's so funny and so great and i'm like why do you think i have him on the show. Of course i appreciate him. L. that's like some three d. chess passive aggressive. Ju jitsu like your preemptive league getting people to yeah. Yeah back done anything. Yeah i know it's your show. No please thailand spa. Then that you're you're even appreciate how good you have like. I get it. he's great. You only married. Get out of the spotlight jenna. I i'm just. I'm like and i'm like i could be done any time. I really anyway. It works actually simpson. You know why. Jenna has made more of my dreams. Come true than any here. We go person or thing in my life. Wow okay no-one. No-one offered to take me to america's funniest videos to me. Tom bergeron but you made it happen. Well actually like it was like allison and it was a combined effort. Yeah yeah yeah. I would know. Someday i'm going to find someone who smears. My lipstick doesn't make my mask year run. You know who you are. We how did i. How did i play into that. I do have a vague memory. But i'm forget it was like seven years ago. They were replacing tom. Bergeron and we got jj for a jess trend a little bit and then afc was like. Send us an audition and we put together. This great audition. You're in it. I remember and they invited us to the show. Then i knew. I wasn't going to get the gig because i was definitely not who they were looking for but a had to read a teleprompter and he's like win. I always loved gina. John's she's great host shoud be okay. It's the band there. I said it would take a break really good. It was great. I'll have other people made some of your dreams come true. Because i don't think i've made daniels dreams come true. No major dad. But that's about. It may get him a good dreams. Come true come on. That's been yes. We have a beautiful family. What else. That's what i'm saying you want to go you too you too. I didn't do anything. I didn't help. I i forget what happened. But somehow i got in the way of you going to have bigger dreams than going to the u. Two concert but i mean i haven't even come close after either. I mean it's true. Well you never dreamed of going scheme but we did go skiing. My new way of living is. I have the dream after we do something. Yeah you're realizing all these dreams. You didn't even know you had like a totally you sitting in the sitting in the chair while i clean the dishes dream come true. We share that dream. Come true. Would you prefer. Would you prefer if i do. I don't have to sit in the chair while you dishes. Stand and talk to you. Yeah there you go. I could dry dry the dishes. I mean there is something about you. Being in the in the most relaxed position human can attain like your head cocked to the side. So you don't even have to lift your arm to check twitter. Like there's it's just like like that that i heard i heard. The negative comment came out of daniel's mouth. I'll try to sit a little more erect next time. Maybe that's it. that's it. just lift to the phone. Daniel help it the either dishes. The dishes happen at like midnight. When i'm not quite awake. Yeah what are you going to do. So i found something out earlier that i can't believe i didn't know. Prior to earlier. Genesis recorded a song called daniel and we don't have the song if we had it we would be here. We're gonna we're gonna get yeah. They're going to find it. But could you tell us jenna about the song please. Well it's a the song. Is i believe the whole song is truly a metaphor or a or some kind of Has a bigger picture element story. But i really think it's about one of my sisters ex-boyfriends because she dated this guy daniel for several years and then she did the solo album all sudden. There's a song called daniel on it I ever told me that you. Your sister dated a daniel. i know. Listen here's the weird thing. It was like it never came up in my brain until just this evening. We got on alison daniels on a phone call. And then i was like daniel and then all of a sudden the song just like blue into my brain. And i haven't heard the song in like twenty years. Anyway we gotta find it. I got here the song it's she wrote it in the ninety s. She's pretty darn good little singer. So do you remember like how it goes or lyrics adalah. I'm just a cat. I remember that razi cat cat. I only remember the part where she says. Daniel a whole bunch. Jinya danya medina like that. I can't this is a. This is a new fruit song. It's gonna be good question though you're saying that it's sort of like a metaphor for something. So is she daniel. She claiming it's not about daniel. Well i'd have to honestly. I need to talk to her about it. Because i haven't we haven't talked about the song and forever. I'm assuming in my like. I was probably ten eleven when she's singing the song so in my mind. I'm like oh this is a song that daniel but i think. She's sort of like alludes to other daniels. Like maybe in the bible. Maybe a like daniel in the lion's den and then also maybe some other daniels song about daniel schorr. Daniel has traditionally throughout art. History in songwriting has been used as a symbol for heroin use. Oh for real when people yes when people sing about daniel goodness. So i'm i am ninety nine percent. Sure my sister would not have known that. I don't know maybe she would. I think he made he made this up. Are you making this. Up is elite. everything. I believe everything. Daniel my dad and wait. What is the daniel on the bible story daniel in the lion's den he gets put in the lines type. We'll story what everyone knows. One of the big stories unfamiliar with okay. Hang on tony. Do you know what the daniel in the lion's den story is no i just i don't mind you guys. This isn't likes to samson's wife stories to you. Know i know of it. But i forget this. No actually i do know it. Of course you know. That's the that's the same book with the guy. what's his name. God right oh some of the stories. I am just forgetting the details of the annual in the lines dental. Could someone please enlighten me. Al lightness years. it's daniel he gets thrown into a lion's den. I don't know why he saved. Nothing is that what was it. Can't pray to the god of israel anymore. They say no sacrificing they were throwing the jews to the lions. Weren't they something like to do. No it's just they just say like no for thirty days. No prayer should be addressed any god and he says. Well i'm i'm still gonna pray in the kind of tournament and catch him and say we're going to throw them to the lion's den. Yeah throw them in there with all these hungry lions and he doesn't get eaten. Nothing happens to him he survives. So it's about faith. Yeah and therefore don't wear a mask for cheap boy so i'm sorry to make a real. I'm sorry. I sorry it has to get this this hot and this real up in this next door someone glasses. I know i don't know if i like me. What is happening. The plug and daniels is plugging up all need to I'm hot over here. Sorry go ahead alison on next. Uh-huh did your duct just pop next door. Someone posted that she believes in natural cures. And the she learned this from her grandma. Or she is a grandma or something but like you take a teaspoon of garlic and you swallow it and then drink some water and eat a soda cracker and that'll keep you healthy and all of these people. i mean. it's like a hot post on next door so many people are like just right on. I love this. I love natural. Cures food is our medicine bubble. I mean just all these like pro natural medicine specifically garlic anti medicine. I hope i hope big pharmacies. What's going on in this threat. Big pharma lives in this part of burbank. But i really wanted to. I really wanted to write like. Oh wow do you think it. It works better than the vac covid vaccine. But i didn't. Because i was like you're just fucking with people that's not something i think like. I don't think of myself as someone who does that. A and b. I'm probably just gonna get sucked into a conversation that's going to annoy me anyway. Like this is a total waste of time but it was really hard for me not to write something. I'm no longer going to be. Lean cuisines bitch. You know what fuck it. I should be able to say whatever. I want if i heard someone being bought them. Sorry but you keep a have you. I have heard about the garlic thing. Never done it. But the people i know who have done it you. It's you gotta sacrifice because fuel smell everybody around. You is not whole cloves of garlic. You're going to be the friend who's got a little bit of an odor a lot of an odor. It's like a lot. It was a hot thread and no one even mentioned the odor. Anything like that. Just some people were like you've got to crush it up because that releases the something or others and then take it and then drink water but definitely eat one soda cracker afterwards that really. That's new york on earth. Some new science on the soda cracker thing. I haven't heard that. I don't know this yet. You about riboflavin does. But i'm just telling you. The people who are fully into this helps. Take away the flavor of garlic. This is relates to judy blume book. I just recently read called freckle juice. Oh wait does no one remember this book. I just read it to the book title. The kid wanted freckles. In this girl's like we'll have got a recipe and pays fifty cents and she just goes like. Yeah it's mustard ketchup. Blend that up for some onions in there and he drinks and gets all sick and doesn't get any more freckles. And then she like Sells a recipe for like no freckle juice or anti freckle juice weight. But does it work now. Pranking for months. And she gets all his money and he's like all mad about it and that's basically the whole but that's the book. Yeah quit quit wishing you had freckles. Yeah what was the judy blume book. It was like taza. Nothing no like the great pickle or something. What was his name great call. I don't know we've been reading all these like chapter books to our kids now because we cannot bear to read any more Like little baby books. I can't i can't find spot anymore. I just i don't care. Is i feel really bad for this next child coming because just i can't i'm so over it so we've been reading all these like classic kid chapter books and it is so much fun nice. What other ones have you read the chocolate chocolate touch. The kid just loves chocolate like he wishes eats special chocolate and everything is mouth. Touches turns to chocolate cool. It's all cool until he kisses his mom on the cheek. Oh no chocolate is it. Rolled doll yeah. We did sideways stories from wayside school. Yeah i wouldn't dow in can get the the story in there about the raincoats and the rat that loved the first chapter is like the mean teacher that turns the kids into apple's. Yeah they like they love so funny. I don't know if you had no it's been a this is it's a great new phase. We're in reading charlotte's web right charlotte's web We got some of the. We did a couple. Choose your own adventures. Those were really fun. When i was a kid. I don't love now interesting. How come. I don't think that the adventures are very great choices. I don't think there's well written as i want them to be like the underwater adventure in the guy dies like turn back to page four. And i'm like no over. Choose your adventures. Were so cool. My memory of them is that they were so cool. Yeah but i think if you read one now you'd be very disappointed. I better yeah. Well i think the whole thing was just a gimmick more than the story right right and that's the problem you like. Turn the page. And you think you're going to take your kids on this great journey and that's like half a page. They've ended the book. We made all these choices. And then you just end it in three sentences. I don't think so so. It is almost time to end the show but i do think we should do just mere everyone and i also want to say welcome to the new patrons. Let's do that. I thank you assume people outside. Hello and welcome. Terry wayne clute. Conrad bowman has bow mendoza. Jen johnson dan stark and stacey anderson and stacey and anderson signed up for an annual subscription reminder if you like a deal you sign up for annual subscription. You get two months free for so. It's twelve months for the price of ten. I also want to remind you guys. I'm an amazon influence her. I keep it on the down low but that's right. I've put together a number of sections of amazon store. You can shop my podcast gear. Homegoods candles make up. Kid's stuffed daniel stuff etc. amazon dot com slash shops slash house knows and amazon com shop. Slash house resin okay. Let's do just mere everyone. Ads done is just game or everyone. All right okay. Melissa is a socialist. Says just me or everyone when someone tells you about their dreams. My only thoughts are one. I don't care. And to thank. God i never remember my dreams. Dreaming sounds terrifying now. I don't have that. But i do think for. I'm someone who talks about my dreams. A fair amount and like in general. No one else really cares. I do knowledge that. I make allison to haul my dreams and then i pull up websites and we interpret them. It's the lead loves it. It's the worst it's like. What does the snake meaning. And it's like well it could mean that you're super scared about something coming in the future or could be something from your past so everything present i have some friends and vais i love bringing my dreams to them because they always want to interpret them. We had one like she had one dream. This was a pregnancy dream. Yeah where we got to a hotel room this. There were a bunch of ostriches inside. The hotel room and i just said like solidity i i do some things i gotta i gotta go to. And she's like literally fighting. Ostriches in a hotel room myself and then we were in. It was a two room hotel room. And i fought off the ostriches and i got him in the other room and i slam the door shut and then i was like what the heck out go. Fight a whole circus of ostriches. So instead of just like what's the significance of my teeth falling out. It's like you're suit. Searching what is fight hand to hand combat of an ostrich nestle and their stuff stuff about it. So it's a thing they clearly has happened to other people. What does it mean. Why don't tell you the interpretation site right here it says ostriches is usually heroin you. So it's dan. yeah there that what. Ostriches mean how it was. Just i'll good you remember. No i think it was like i'm scared for upcoming changes to do something on your own or something. Yeah it was like look writing and running away from the truth. It's one of the rarer dreams. Shocker it's a collectible horoscopes. Hear these descriptions say that's a little vague so anyway are you guys board yet. I actually like about genesis dreams. Have you had more dreams Where cheats on you tons more. Yeah yeah no. It's been horrible. He's been awful to me. There's been dreams. There was one recently where he was just not talking to me like just hanging around me but wouldn't say a word. I was mad about that one for a couple of days. You're going to get negative reviews. About what a jerk you are to your dreams. Yeah look this. Okay a dream about catching ostriches. You can have. There's so many interpretation running away from running beside catching one fighting hunting one. That's the o- attacking you. This means you need to be careful when communicating with people. Maybe we had been in other dream fight. Ostrich thing happened. I don't know there's so many interpreting. don't like okay. Ostriches are a thing people dream about. I've never had an ostrich in my dream. I don't think We'll right in. Tell us everyone tell us about your australia. I would love to hear. Cavs are shockingly up to like there's no subtexts to mind like mine. Have the subtlety of like a first year film students lack of light bill. Like if. I'm afraid that i'm gonna crash my car. I'll have a dream them crashing. My like there's no there's no layers to it there's no there's no layers to that onion it just it is what it is. It's still engines smoking everywhere. Yeah exactly yeah. I have had some dreams where it's like i wake up and i'm getting ready for like totally like there's nothing. Surreal about the dream at all. And i'm like what's happening. What happened to my subconscious. Did it just give up to death. You had j. mode did you. Not i do actually came up with one. Finally just mere everyone the idea that you can't eat too similar things in a in a concurrent time period whether it's in the same day lunch dinner or lunch from one day to lunch the next day. So like someone saying oh. I can't have thai food for dinner. I had thai food for lunch. Just mere everyone not an issue. It's not issue for people in thailand. Exactly what they call thai food in thailand. You guys know i. I'd variety is not the spice of my life. In fact my my liking to do the same thing repeatedly has ruined. Daniel's life but yeah i have no if i had something for lunch i have no problem having the thing for dinner or two days in a row or whatever. There's your politics that's the thing this bonus the anti variety show. That's pretty good. I'm going to write that down. But i know people that like. You're trying to get six people to agree on something to eat for dinner and like that's the hill. They'll die on like trying to get people to agree to. Dinner is tough enough. Shoot it down by saying i you know. I had thai food yesterday. Desert problems you now. I just made up thing like your body knows that you had thai food like you had a thai salad on tuesday and then you have tied chicken and rice on wednesday. Your body's not going back. Well these foods are from this a similar geographical region. They're just don't want to eat that food. Yeah and it's like an annoying way of saying it. Yes right yeah own tag takes responsibility and accountability for your preferences because really you're right and they're just like that doesn't sound good to me but offer up some kind of legal excuse or something right which is like or just say. Yuck no things i can let us try that out jenna. Bite me something and we'll see how it works. Hey you wanna go grab some some hamburgers. At wendy's oh yuck no thing how would that do you feel like you bounce back from that. Yeah okay fine how about this little taco bell. Yuck no thanks fine cheesecake factory. Yes they have found it. Okay says traveling is my not so secret. Excuse to eat a bunch of food. I don't normally have access to now. I'm wondering if he's talking about like junk food or local cuisine. Right like i eat stuff. I normally try to resist right. Yeah i think he's angling for like low rent garbage food because it was local cuisine. That's sort of a fun thing about travel and the right thing to be excited about this is like i'm on a road trip. I guess i have to eat a bag of hostess donuts. Yes we'll have breakfast right right. Which i can relate to. So where are you guys with. I feel like this is probably. This has come up before. But i'm remembering a road trip that i went on with my friend johanna and we bought a bag of liquorice all sorts at the gas station and i was like mindlessly eating them and i remember. She's like you ain't all of them and i felt so fat and shamed but it's true. I had really gone to town on licorice all sorts. How do you guys feel about all sorts. Do you know what they are. Did you have diarrhea later. No my body handled it. Well wow. I was paid for licorice all sorts. No kidding before. I don't know what they are. Oh it's like it's like liquorice variety of grandma candy s old fashioned candy you can think of made of liquorice sugar coconut aniseed jelly black licorice and a whole bunch of other. It's pink it's blue sky. It'll be like yeah. It'll be like us cube and it's got three different layers. A pink layer of black licorice layer a yellow layer. So that's one and there'll be one that's like around blue like blue round center. No they're not hard. They're squishy chewy. Yeah i personally don't like them. But i know if you eat too many of them. Oftentimes you can really. I'd have no that. Have a bath. What she's a natural accident. Yeah no thanks. Yeah when i was in the boy scouts the boy scouts. The moms roy trying to give their kids. Black licorice shouldn't hold it for the whole week. Can't you meet equally man. I really dodged a bullet. Yes i think you can. Maybe we should give and black liquorice seriously other has to be. Yeah also we could just give him like other stuff that he actually will enjoy ingesting as opposed to black ish more black liquorice all sorts for me you guys. This was so much fun. Thank you so much jenna. I'm so excited for this baby to arrive. Feeling i am done. Let's have a baby please. I can't wait. I'm at the point of. I don't even care how painful it is. Let's do it girl though. Oh for sure. Yeah yeah with under. There's time my fear is what if because this is my third and things are happening already that i do go into late or if my water breaks at home we have an hour drive to the hospital. Oh wow every time. They broke my water in the hospital. Before i had the baby in less than two hours so my fear is that my water breaks at home by the time we get to the hospital. It's too late. i have done the baby thing. Naturally there's no epidurals so we'll see what happens. Oh my gosh jerry. Little nervous but excited is the l. Geno podcast sponsored by weather tech car mess. It's about it's about. i know i. I haven't even packed a bag or anything to drop cloths ready to be a noisy right for multiple multiples got a bunch of tarps from harbor. Freight trump right. Is there a doctor closer to you like or do you have to drive that far when when you have your checkups there's a place. I go half an hour away but the hospital hospitals where they now refer to deliver but we can. I mean they say like. Listen if you're going to like if it's happening there's one fifteen minutes down the road to that one. Yeah but that's not the one they want us to. Yeah there's one the one we're supposed to go to narrow it we're gonna we're gonna go for fifth on the middle of the night. No big deal fine. I'll just if it's like seven thirty in the morning still got a horn. I can honk on the side. You get this starsky and hutch magnetic light. He's reach out the window. Plop on the roof of your car and my brother in law enforcement. I'll see if i can get. Oh sure yeah allowed okay. We really at a time. But just real fast. I just have to know. How's the new house a journey. We finally feel like it is our home. I think i to come on. Oh my gosh come. Yes so we. Every day is a new thing. A new learning thing. We've got some kind of invasive trees that are just popping up into our yard constantly all of a sudden. We've got got a canoe take. We haven't canoe. Let's do this right on the lake. Which is actually really fun. The house is good. We have a ton of work to do. But it's good. I read of the red and the kitchen. Oh we had to. I was that felt. Like a purge cleanse like. I couldn't live with the red anymore. It was just well used to be bright red to. Yeah this fall behind us. This got repainted to so. We've we've done things like that too. That i go like now. It feels like it's our house. 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Alison's Shower Squeegee, Kurt Braunohler's Tooth Tapping, Scotty Landes's Postcards
"And now live from Spooky, station and Blueberry California. Replayed Week thirty three. The Alison Rosen is your new best friend role. To Night Alice, it welcomes goes companions. He's a writer and unearth the CO host the. Forty cars but. It's got. This And the ease the super scary skeleton comedian man and the other host of the food gruesome in spine chilling leaf silly podcast but does. Cared browder. Tones orders here to write his girlfriend by dreadfully purchasing all of the puzzle legally Freakish Retro Series Star Wars Action Figures because. I'm her Departed husband. Saying. Inside the bus and say. To your new worst feed. Solace in their own. Spread. How my little reese's peanut butter pumpkins welcome to another exciting episode. Halloween episode Alison Rosen is your new best friend that particular very popular carbohydrate was sent in on Patriot. Poetry on by J, Melville. All sorts of stuff that is very fun up on my Patriot I. Just had a patriotic Zoom livestream party where everyone could connect with their cameras and was. It was fun. We got to see everyone it was great. I did it a and ask allison anything where I it was full of juicy gossip by name names and also of course you can submit carbohydrates Patriot dot com slash alison very excited for today's show I would like to say hello to my guests and I would like to say the top that I'm not gonNA forget this time to say hi to Tony. Just just get ready Tony didn't count that one doesn't count. The. That's right. It's not. It's tease. Go tease for the hello to come Hello Curt Brown oehler hello, Scotty Landes of the bananas podcast which I had the honor of being on recently and also Kurt you've been on my show a couple times. So your your an old friend of ours Scotty. You're a new friend of ours hello. Welcome. Hi Hi, thanks for having, US? Yes we're ready for a new best friends. You kidding would love a new great car best friend. Okay. Good good because it's all about timing really when it comes to being best friends with me. And this is a great time to make new friends because there's so many things we can all do. have. Tony Paxton Hello. Hello, you did it. You it I did it out. Kurt and Scotty. A thing that's been happening of late so many new things are happening of late. Into squeegee the shower door for some reason, and it's like very high. Yeah. and. Also, I'm forgetting to say hi to Tony those are the main things. I can't. I can't keep I can't keep a with the squeegee in the shower door like good. Best of luck to you because I you got to clean the shower door and then you just got squeegee at every single time and it I can't I can't keep up. I tried. I. Have A squeegee. Never done it. In the course of you saying that it occurred to me that I haven't really been results oriented in my shower squeegee ing like all of a sudden for the first time I was like wait. Is it clean? Is it cleaner? I? Don't know. It's really just like. An exercise in using the squeegee. What it does. So when I opened my shower door pre squeegee. The Bath Mat and a little bit of the floor would get all wet because it would be dripping off the shower door. So now that I- squeegee clause that stays dry but I don't know if it's actually an cleaner I'm gonNA say probably not. Like mine is essentially a white door now, like it's a glass door that I cannot see through anymore 'cause Aso covered in scum. So at this point, I'm just given up I'm just going to be this is what this was a shower looks like I don't care anymore during the time when you were squeegee Yang, did you feel on top of the world? I'm going to be up front with you. Okay. Thinking wait hang on a second tony play something to indicate. Brutal on it and a truth. Honesty. Tallow Lean. I did it once And I said, I'm really turning my life around and then I never did it again boy and and I feel like I let myself down I feel like I feel like a failure I made me feel like a failure my inability to continually squeegee the door right zero made it one time that's all this talk and that was just one time. You did it I was like fuck this. Your use a market difference out. You're like an addict who goes to one meeting and then doubles down there addiction. Oh Yeah. Yeah. What's Kinda Fun? Show I. Have Old School Clear Shower curtain I have a claw foot tub. Which is which a lot of people like I don't care for it that much on a little too tall to actually take a bath in it. So it's just pretty much shower only and then. You know how like when you're in developed in it and like you turn the water on and I don't know if it's the heat rising or the drag falling, but then it kinda comes in on you. So now I have learned to secure the to the wall where I literally put little screws into my shower curtain so that it does not enveloped me. Great was that acquire invention it was a little before Coir, but it definitely was one of those things where you know you're just you're washing your hair, your eyes are closed and then you just feel that weird. Plastic thing closing in on your hips and legs God. This is not relaxing and it was going to say what you guys are doing and allison like when you're squeezing, it's a little bit like a vertical zen garden like it's the same movement kind of draw your patterns and. It's Kinda relaxing. It really is. And you say verticals Zen Guard wait a minute I'm not GonNa Forget you I'm done with today's forgetting you Tony. What's your shower like? I just I just having all just a boring curtain I did one of my interests Aho's ago I had I had the glass door and. I had the squeegee Lars I did not like it but my landlord at the time was very very insistent about it and so i. That's my nightmare. Yeah. I have my orders gives a shit. About your activities to that level yeah Oh. Oh I hate that honestly. The weirdly kind of the one thing though this woman was actually like incredibly nice but. Her one thing that she really was like just make sure that you squeegee the door. So good. That's so you guys had good landlords. In. The past are not good. My current landlord is a DJ named DJ skeet skeet This is true and he's a producer and DJ and I've never met him and. When he was like, Hey, names trevor and but he was like, yeah, I'm DJ skeet skeet and I'm. Like Oh, absolutely and I googled it right away but he seems really great. I've always had good ones but I always had ones that didn't seem like they're trying to rip me off. They were trying to get me just to stay as long as possible But about EUCHRE. I think I. I think a last one I've had we used to live above for ten years I live directly above in Brooklyn live directly above my landlord. Home it was like you know a Brownstone and we just had like the top apartment and that was a little tough because it's like they're just always there and you kind of have to like and they were so nice. The nicest people in the entire world. But it was like you know they're just always kind of like aware of what the fuck you're doing and kind of communicating to you about it, and so it was always just like I never I I don't like it. Then like like neighbors I WANNA keep neighbors. This is what a neighbor interaction is like hey, doing. All right. Anything. Is. This like let's go. Let's have some boundaries. Let's have some boundaries. I'm beginning to suspect that our neighbors don't like us and. Also I was informed that my husband told the neighbors, the name of my shadow. Action that makes me wonder could that have been like did I say something is that why they don't like us And there's just a few data points that make me wonder about this. So our neighbors over there and no one knows where I'm pointing to and I don't know if that's north South East or west and it really doesn't matter. But our neighbors in one direction however, this video is up on Patriot dot com slash house when Rosen so you can see me point. They have having small parties A. Quotes in there back in their front yard. Like parties get Gimme how many people talking? I've never really seen. I've heard I've seen pop a little tent up out there I. Don't know maybe like ten ten. It seems really bulls people stop by maybe like between six and ten like. Go out there be out there all day people seem to stop by on and off they're wearing masks and stuff. But I am I simultaneously have two thoughts one what are you doing having a party to why didn't you invite us so the? Feeling. So, this has happened and then I saw the neighbors across the way come to one of the parties and really. then. I was like, Oh, my God did they just see that they were having a party and decide to stop by or were they actually invited that really made me feel left out of the party that I don't think should be happening. And then our other neighbors across the way who like when we were moving we closed on the house and then we're doing some work on it before moved in and it took forever but they were like really friendly and they would sort of let me know like, Hey, there's a car parked in your driveway before we were living here like G. With, sort of I was like Oh this is. They're gonNA, be our eyes and ears in the neighborhood. This is great and they've been super friendly, but they didn't wave at us the last couple of times. That's How do I repeat what they saw us? It feels like since quarantine started masks went on the waves went away. How do I fix this? If this is really happening. I, actually we were leaving them like I'm I made it was like to Daniel. So the husband was out there on a ladder doing something with the tree so he had. Like foliage covering him. So I suppose they didn't see us I'm like, did he say how do you make sure you say hi to him. So I think Daniel went out of his way to say hi and he got a high back. So that's the beginning of the repair rebuilding. Yeah. But it's like isn't it funny that a wave goes from zero to murder as soon as it's not returned like you're like I like them and then One second later, the wave doesn't come in fuck you you know and honestly. And the probably listening right now wave guys I think it's the opposite is I think in times of masks where you can't smile at people just waving so effortless wave to everybody. With both I know I've been I've been trying to like smile with my eyes to people as talk past each other but it doesn't really work Kinda just looks like I have gas. Yeah. I feel like I'm giving like a super intense like weird sizing kind of. You get get my hands out and be waving around. I don't know. I feel like. I'm like, have we not been friendly enough. Have we? And also I don't. It's like I also don't care except the idea of like a whole bunch of people who have decided they don't like us is definitely not okay with me. That's not okay. But the Halloween's common I mean just started smashing pumpkins and like you know just prank the hell these people it's common they ask for. With all. Right with their attack on us that. Is. I don't know if it exists or not. Regarding. Halloween here's what happened. Daniel. Who writes the Intros to the shows my husband he writes interest to the show which we do after we record. On my aunts so of tailored to the guests, so the listeners will have heard it by now and I'm sure it was amazing as on my way out the door to come to the studio He said Oh who's on the show this week and I said you're names like, oh, great He's like it's the Halloween episode and I was like Oh had completely forgotten. So this episode is not GonNa be that whole Halloween a fide other than the Halloween music you heard and his I imagine. Halloween intro, how do you guys feel about Halloween? I'm not a big halloween person like in general during. In general used to be my favorite holiday especially in New York City like it. It was like really my favorite holiday and then last year was like really exciting because my daughter was to last year like the first time she could like walk from door to door she doesn't remember it but my neighborhood like goes all out. So like literally like we we we left the house with our drinks and then like every single person in our neighborhood and then people from other neighborhoods like friends we just happened to run in everybody's drinking on the street and your kids are getting candy and it's just like. A love it. This year we were trying to organize a thing are your kids going to Halloween this year? So we're GONNA have my sister and my nephews over, and we're GONNA like we're sort of trying to. We're trying to figure out what we'RE GONNA. Do I think we're going to? Trick or treat in the. House behind each and maybe do a holiday craft or something so. What are you going to jail? Scottie has a great tradition tradition. This year I don't know if we are normally I. My friend memory, heart who. Loves Halloween. We started about seven years ago. She was like, do you just want to hand out candy to kids? I was like that's perfect. We put on whatever costumes we had handy and we saw salt we handed out like we sold We made a lot of money. We ended out like. I mean maybe a thousand pieces of candies. So we were like one person would run the CVS and by five more bags because it's it's actually the same neighborhood as Kurt and it's just known as a safe neighborhood with tons. It's flat, which is also in La kind of a thing like you don't want to walk up and down the hills. And so now we rent a frozen Margarita machine. And for the parents, we hand out to go cups of frozen Margaritas. Get Candy and now there's three or four of us. We decorate her yard and smoke machines and all that. But it got to the point two years ago where people are like you're the Margarita House and then. Like the dodgers are in the world series now and the dodgers are usually in the playoffs. So like the DADS will come halfway into memories householding. Margarita, watching the dodgers game behind this while we hand out candy and. It's still you know they're so nice. I, gotTa say there are so polite like it's it's awesome. So this year we might do she has sort of like the gate to her fence is like one of those old barn doors where the top to the bottom open. So we might just barn door and then we'll probably skip the MARGARITAS sadly this year just hand out bags of pre bagged candy, underrun out. I don't know kids are going to trick or treating or not because I know that. Whoever is not the? CDC whoever like someone? Some official body locally was like. They you're not allowed to trick or treat now accounting and that's what I thought too. Yeah. Yeah they're just like the. newsome Moose and was just like right. Halloween's canceled. We're just like we organized with our neighbors I. think There's GonNa be like three houses and we're going to have a bowl of candy in front of each house. Like socially distance walk the three kids from one place to the other to the other and then let them walk around outside and then it's over thirty minutes in and done Yup. Pat How nice for you that you have such great relationships with your neighbor. I was thinking. These this this plan we have for Halloween night trick or treating in the House that's going to take like all of four minutes. Done. Why favorite thing that happened last year and same it was like the first hollow Elliott slept through Halloween the year before and so it was. where he could dress up and he was a caterpillar and Owen with pineapple and it was super cute and it was just a really great neighborhood despite the neighbors don't care for us and it was great. But anyway, we went up to one house. Trick or treat and the woman opened the door and La just walked right in. And it's the move head on in. It occurred to me like why wouldn't he? You know it makes this. He has no idea. It makes sense to him that you don't like he only knows of going in place. Caterpillar that's cool. Too Little. Caterpillar just walks into your house. Horrible. That happened year round. Did. You say that was the first house of the night or he just decided this one was the one you gonNA. Walk in. The latter he just ran at this point he was like I just I'm ready to go inside. Yeah bet you. It's just like I'm tired. Now this seems like a good place to. Maybe So Tony. You possibly had jury duty today, right? Yeah. I was I had gotten the notification a few weeks ago or whenever that was but then I checked on Friday and said I did not have to report. So I have to check again tonight to see if I have to go tomorrow. We will see that's the Best I. Think I put mine off three times in a row just because of kids. Had Babies at home and I was like I can't go. And then finally it was like you have to go because it's like you put it off too many times and then cove it happened and there was like right in the beginning when they just canceled jury duty. So I gotta get out I was Simpson sorry if it's going to come back. Yeah. I was surprised to get the notice because I. Yeah. I really wasn't sure if it was happening or not in I'm not. Crazy about it I don't like to really thought of being forced to go do that during this. I know of a couple lawyers who are having to go to court houses. So I think some courts are able to zoom stop and some just aren't I don't understand why though if every like. PODCAST can do it. You'd think that a courtroom could figure it out. So I think that I I feel like I'm Jinxing it so. It's Halloween. I think that I postponed my jury duty last time too. But like a long time ago. So I'm surprised, they haven't come found. They haven't found me. I always want to get picked and I've tried like four times. In College. So like Massachusetts. New York and L. A. I get it, go I get picked because I'm like. Well. It's also like they've been different where there are you rely related to anybody in law enforcement I'm like, no, I'm not and they're like, are you a business owner and I'm like no I'm not and they're like, would you be angry if somebody broke into your home of I'd be like all these basic questions? and. Then I get picked and then they're like your number twenty three, and then you have to report at like eight am the next day and I remember having to do this in Brooklyn and like getting on the subway early as always such a nightmare and then you get there and then they're like they figured it out and so all four times the lawyers like plaid. Like some, they got a plea deal and it wasn't but I'm like I'm the guy that I was here. I WanNa see it like yet and people like well, what if it went ninety days? I'm like who cares I have to do it it's cool. But I've never I've always gotten I've always got drafted to the second round and then never gotten to the big show so. Call me I'll go. I'll go off all wear a wig I'll go for and. Do you remember like Scotty sorry to interrupt. No but in Brooklyn I, don't know if it was there when you were there there used to be. In Downtown Brooklyn the place I went to there was a TV and like you while you were waiting, they would play a video about the history of law which Geno Shit if I'm remembering correctly starts with people having like. A witch trial and then they throw a witch into a lake and then they're like, we don't do that. Is, somewhere to God. I. Don't think I made that up I remember watching it on the TV. I wonder if you may WanNa your listeners know that's actually a real video or I imagined that. If it is real. That's like made by the same people that make driving school instructional video. Yes. So the first time I ever did jury duty in Costa Mesa California. I remember I made it until like the round right before it's like I made it to like I got somebody call backs. Callback I did the chem test. And I was so torn about not being picked because I also like. It'd be kind of cool to see but I also don't know that I want the commitment, but it'd be. Yeah. So. I don't know. And then I also did it in New York, but I feel like that was in Manhattan but you guys both talking about your Brooklyn courthouses I definitely Jay Street Borough Hough I was definitely downtown Brooklyn and it's a dump and they have these huge. They just have folding chairs out like in this really big room and you know what group you're in, and then you sit there and you just wait and it was so interesting like the time. Is Date me a little bit but I think smartphones were brand new. Like the IPHONE adjust come out and they were like no smartphones and everybody had one and was like doing the worst it was like being a kid and like sleeping and they were all talking under a shirt. Tweet a magazine. Looking at. And I didn't have one. So I just sat there bored as hell but like yeah, I get pick a boss out here whenever show runners on. Are these show hawks got picked and he was gone for like. Probably, a week and a half and it was a murder case and it was somebody beating somebody to death with a bat and we were like tell us all about he's like I can't tell it's over and then when he got in, they was just like the evidence was like he was on camera holding the bat he walked in all the stuff. But I'm like that's kind of fascinating like I would want to be in one of those just little. We all watch law shows it'd be great one how it really goes right? 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And then when you see behind the curtains, like you're like, yeah, I, there's just a wall of these white Tuxedo jackets that we just pick the one that kind is the cleanest and smells the best park your car for four hours like you know I'm wearing a bowtie and like. And then Y- every night you'd show up and black pants and tucked in shirt or button down shirt, and then it's just like Oh, this one's only a medium. So it's like you know halfway up my forearm but then people are like just and you have to run to get people's car. But then as soon as you round the corner, you start walking because they can't see anymore. US So, funny. But it was great and I learned a lot about like just. I don't know how people treat sort like the help I guess, and the oldest old old money treats very well, which is weird like the people that felt like the stores in the rockefellers and the those type of people just walk up to you and handy like a crisp one, hundred dollar bill and they're like I'm GonNa hold onto my keys. But just make sure nobody breathes on it and you're like Yes sir right away. Here's the door and then like all the nouveau riche or like I'm going to hook you up you take care of this escalate. I'm going to hook you up and then they come out and give you like two bucks just like thanks chief thanks boss and you're like. Thank you have a great night I put like far away from the other cars thinking you're going to look me up and really it's just like a fun night from. Long. Island. I moved to new. York I met Kurt there. Kurt was a rising standup. I was an aspiring writer now TV writer and I write movies and. We looked up to he and Kristen Shaw who performed together and they were sorta my first they were the first people to take me under their wing or at least say like, Hey, you're good. You can do this. So we became buddies about you know starting around fifteen years ago, and then we really start to work together about ten years ago pretty regularly. wrote. Fast Tony I think you're were hearing your torrential typing. Why does that keep I? Don't know why the preference keeps changing back to reminded me of something like when you respond automated phone call and you can hear like doing that thing i. kept being like, Jesus, about to get transferred. Debbie and HR. It's the weirdest no ways. What I always imagined that it was like. A robot thought like getting ready to talk sounded like like. That it's areas. Okay so Scotty you're from Maryland originally he. Raised in town Maryland and I went to Umass amherst and just went and had fun and then I moved to Atlanta for one year and then to Brooklyn from there and I don't know why I get asked that question sometimes like why New York not l. a. and honestly I never thought I would live in either one and I'm not I don't know I just was drawn to it in the way that sometimes people are drawn to new. York. And Kurt, like what? What was the circumstance where you guys actually met each other? I was teaching Improv to. Red Bull. Off. For readily back in the day, this is a two thousand four maybe. And I like taught Improv at the time and so red bull hired me and then. Scotty was like one of the. One of the guys like, what was your? What was your like official Thai Mobile Energy team we were met met wraps. Yeah. We were met Reps. And they got they fired all the guys. Eventually they went full beverage company status where they were like you know, let's just have attractive women lake and then they were like you just laid off and I was like Oh. Okay. It. Was a fun job. But yeah, Kerr I'd seen Kurt. My first job in New York was on a TV show called Stella. Black and I love that show and I love those guys. I moved didn't know anybody in I got a brief job as a temp and as a temp, my first temp job was mailing fire safety things for this management company. So I had to stuff envelopes and put labels on it male, and I'm talking like five thousand apartments and I started to see Penny Marshall or Michael Rapaport or the goethe like I was seeing these like crazy names and one of them was David Wayne. And I was like, okay. So now I have all these people's addresses. So I started writing postcards all of them and saying like to like, Penny. Marshall I'd be like Penny. You give the best advice always a pleasure talking to you. See you sued and then I would write Scotty lands very clear and very big so that it would be like they would at least have to read my name. If they even get that male were you like your own street team I was my own I was grassroots street team. And I I started doing it to comedy central and to Stella's production office specifically in Green Point and then one day. I got an email that was like, Hey, I've been getting your postcards and your emails I'm the writer's assistant how tall are you and was like six two and they're like Oh David Wayne need to stand in but David Winfrey all too. Little too tall. Do you WANNA be the sound PA and I said Yeah? I had never done anything like that, and then through that show putting microphones on everybody and the cast, there was a comedian named Andrea Rosen and she took me to curtain Kristen's hot tub which was like one of the first few. Hot. Tubs I think and so I saw those guys. That's so cool. Way Back to this whole postcard thing. So you were saying as cards. To Comedy Central. But were you indicating that you wanted to work for Stella? No. I was writing to the production office mostly but I guess to central to and I would just act like we had had conversations in hung out and it was all so that people would see my name. I didn't care. I wasn't like here's my email or my it was purely just. So one day of somebody heard Scotty Landes they'd be like, oh. Yeah. Yeah. Because I just thought that would work and it totally works where it absolutely worked. How do they get your email? On because I started emailing the office to once Stella went into production they got a warehouse office in Green Point and I found that from the onion from the club. Somebody must've done interview or something and they're like, yeah they'll be shooting out of green screen studios it. I don't remember the production company, but then I just started emailing like INFO at Stella Dot. com or whatever. And it worked and then. Worked I love that store I have never heard that story before. Yeah. That's true and then so I met I saw current Kristen I was blown away felt like it was the first time. I'd ever seen people the same sense of humor and I almost cried then I introduced myself to kristen after the show Kurt I think honestly went and got drunk cross the street at Mustang Sally triple crown almost instantly and kristen was like. I was like, Hey, you're really great. If there's ever anything I can do to help you out I. Just think you're special and then she thought it was a gay man. She thought it was a gay man. And the next two times I saw her she just was I? Guess she was like is your boyfriend coming to and it was a Anthony Batista occurred it was my friend, Anthony So. then. They just thought that it was two gay men complementing her after a show and honestly I'll take. Sorry to go back to the postcards and this whole. Oh. I did so much more than that but please it's. It's just so interesting to me that it this I'm just fascinated by the story because. It's so indirect like. And yet, it worked Kurt. What is your reaction to this aside from amusement? Like doesn't it seem insane? No it's the way. Scotty. Operates like he does he's still sends postcards. Now he just sends postcards to anybody on the Internet who will send him their address and he just sends them a very nice postcard. Thousands, thousands, it was it was innocent. Yeah, where nobody ever knows nobody will ever know who you are, and if you're a writer, I wasn't a standup. I wasn't an improviser I was just a writer, and so nobody's GonNa find me and I'm from Maryland not connected my parents have nothing to do. With the business at all. So I was like I just need people to know who, I am somehow and. I was sending it to like. Helmet Lang sitting to like look on Puck like any address that I any name I recognized I would write it in this little memo pad and then I'd go home and send a postcard a week to those names. have. David Wayne remembered on I Senate to his home address in Brooklyn way back in the day and then when I got Stella, there was I've been there for two weeks and it was sort of downtime and everybody gets used to everybody onset pretty quickly and I was like, Hey, I send you a postcard with a guy from Florida and like Speedo and he goes Oh. Yeah I remember that. So I think I. Think if you're like Tom Hanks and those types, you don't see your fan mail just an ocean but I think if you're like a mid tier comedian in New, York, in the early two thousands like all males like well, somebody knows like any recognitions good right. So then you became friends with Kurt and with Kristen. And then when did you guys start collaborating on stuff? What was are first thing was penelope Yay. So Chris and I did this web series called Penelope Princess of pets. which was all about a girl who could talk to animals and who had to kill a senator in order to save the world and that was like two, thousand five I think two, thousand, six maybe. And Scotty was a PA on that and also helped write jokes for that. And then. I just kept working together He would write stuff for hot tub, and then we made a show we made like a web series together called rouse devout where jets need Chicago to New Orleans for charity. and. Then we made pilot. We made two pilots for comedy central together. We've written a bunch of stuff. We just sold a show together. And then we just together congratulations what is this show? Oh, it's just a it's just a pilot. But still that's cool. Yeah. It's an animated pilot which is that's really Do you not want to say anything more about it. Yeah. And I don't like jinx and stuff. Yeah. We've been longtime writers and you know there when you're first starting out and nobody's paying any of us but anyone, it's just kinda like. You just are happy that people think you're funny and that you think they're funny and if they have like a small idea, you do it and then you do this other idea and you do it, and so we just kept throwing stuff at the wall and. and. Thankfully sort of our circle and sort of our smaller click friends that came up like people started to make starting to get those breakthrough so. It was fun. It's still fun. I think a lot of times. We all talk about some of those early shows including penelope and are like. We should get that started like it's still when it was at its purest and most fun. Which is How did you start working? How did workaholics happen? Similar similar thing I I had written on a bunch of shows in New York and I felt like I become sort of like a go to writer comedy writer there, and then I moved to l., A., and start working on Whitney coming show for e called love you mean it and and Adam Devine was a guest. Is a brief. It was actually a really good show. It was supposed to play Chelsea lately and then it got pulled. At the end of the first season, they didn't renew us. And while I was there and divine was on. A mutual friend was like, do you want to meet? Adam. He's going to do a show comedy central and they need a showrunner and sit shore and we met at old smokehouse and after one drank like let's do it and we did a show called House party which was on comedy central for three seasons and Kurt was on season two of that, and then from house party and working together atoms like would you work on Workaho Alex and I said sure I think it's really funny. So did that for four seasons? 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Scotty and courteous house. She does have a podcast called bananas and it's not just a name. It's really a lifestyle because you reach. Our Riposte People's accidental. Bananas like. Bananas just out there just opinion and it's all over the place I have a quiz for you guys. About Bananas Now, I'm wondering though do you feel like you know a lot about bananas? No. I mean not maybe. Okay, Roy. All right that's good. I will keep score. There's. Five five between five and seven questions. I haven't decided yet if we're doing all of them or not. Yeah. But you know what I I realized. There's something I have to ask because I have been not just for the show but just personally wondering, Scotty your instagram account. Every caption is a quote. Yeah. Do you are you constantly compiling quotes? How does this work? It's really easy it. WAS LATE TO INSTAGRAM I've only been for about five years And so I didn't wanNA write jokes because I felt like I had to do that in life on twitter and stuff. So I thought if I could take dumb pictures and put smart quotes or smart pictures and put dumb quotes that it would save me a lot of thinking. So basically once I have the photo, I like I kind of try to just do a key word for quotes about and then a key word and It takes zero time. It takes twenty seconds usually to find a quote there's the website. The most is brainy quote but. Yeah. It just saves me the effort of. Thinking of something clever to say guys lazy. It's lazy. Current. Kind of fascinating that brainy quote thing because it's weird where they pull the quotes from. Your on. Yet, for some reason, I was like I don't even remember what it was, but literally someone show someone sent me a photograph from New York City. You know those digital kiosk signs they have. Now they're just like these big like their digital signs that are just everywhere I think the run by the MTA. Different stuff flashes on them and I guess they have quotes from famous New Yorkers. But for some reason, I guess they like just searched brainy quote for like New York quotes and like mine was up there and it was literally something I wrote I. Don't know I for New York magazine. Maybe. Ten Fifteen, twenty years ago I had no memory of writing it and someone sent me a photograph of a quote from me about New York. City. Where I was just like I I don't think I wrote that I don't. Like Google it and find it and I was like, Oh, I guess, I did write that and it was like just part of A. Part of an interview I did for like a New York magazine like way back in the day. It's Well. New York. oh man. New York for something like for True New Yorkers for some people the city. I can't remember it. It's like the city crushes you like city. City crushes you. But if you're a true New Yorker, you just get polished or something it's I can't remember the exact quote. It's better. It's better than that. Has, it's on brainy quote. It's not like an exceptional quote I don't think. I think it's literally just like an intern it was like New York quotes all right copy paste send it up. It's also fascinating because I look at what's so much and I do have like Bartlett's book quotations and stuff. I do find things interesting. I have an Oxford humorous quotations book A, lot of times. That we all know like, put your all your eggs on one basket. And watch that basket it'll be attributed to like fifteen people and so there are a lot of things like, mark. Twain a lot of quotes that are also attributed like twenty other people. It's. It's just interesting that over time it's sort of what's going on in general where like The Truth and facts and stuff for sort of all, just a you just go map I think that was that person that said it, and then you just go with it. So people have corrected me before they're like Oh that person didn't say that that's from troop Beverly Hills and I'm like, oh I did actually happen. Yes My eighth grade quote was. Life. unexamined. Is. Not Worth living witch. Oh. Yes. Yes. Eighth. Grade. Doing some examining right I think it was a defensive line over analysis when I was thirteen. So it's real. It's real pretentious shit, but it was socrates but also. Like play also Plato also aristotle and I think that it was mostly I usually attributed it's like same and maybe it was also from trip Beverly Hills weightless beverly. Hills one the. Badges. We don't need a stinking badges. That I see that one too. Yeah. No it was some it just happens, and because I just pull them from websites I don't research him but I just like copy paste wherever they quote and then people like actually that Shelley Long Beverly Hills and I was like, okay and all I don't even reedited I'm like instagram it's just Scroll Shit so But Yeah I did have one once like early four or five years ago, and it was just some quote about now nothing and this person's like, do you know that that person is a dictator and that he's talking about Muslims and Iraq medicating them and I was like, no I did not think you and I I literally switched it to an eminem quote that was like I'd try my best. To, get out of this right away. But that was the only time where I sorta like grab one without looking up who the person was and it was like, oops, that was not my. That's not my brand. That is hilarious. That is hilarious. All right. Let's let's see who's the king of Banana. Boy All. Right. I'm ready. Also I would like to point out that for everyone watching this on Patriots on this not as it on my forehead. I. Got a biopsy. And I was like I hope this isn't going to be a scar and he's like, no no it's not going to be a scar and I think I'm going now have a scar on my forehead that looks like is it theory bummed out about it? Notice I hadn't even noticed, but now I do notice big. What did you have skin cancer? Yeah. No. I don't know. He's just like we're GONNA buy opposite citizen like Asher. We'll find out. Faire attitude about your skin I know I mean I got I'm I gotta take care of its biopsy. We're what am I going to do worry about the biopsy until it comes through it's going to find your life unexamined is not worth living. and. We need to talk yet again about the fact that my children and your children. Kurt bear a resemblance I just took another photo of Owen and I've got an email this to you guys because he looked so much like your kids. It's weird us because we. Look like us. Yes. But a little bit all like Olive Yeah Daniels Ginger Right? Or yes I that's why. I. Guess I don't know when is blond haired and blue eyed. So it's weird that he's my son in fact sometimes I wonder like is he really my son? I know he came out of my body. So could have been someone else's egg. Find out he's he has a I mean he's one and a half. So take this is the grain of salt but I'm pretty sure he's going to be a professional ballplayer. He has a good arm. Good. I'm not athletic. Okay. I have frustrated everyone with my saying we're GONNA do the banana quiz and then I didn't Tony could you do some sound effects I imagine you were already planning to Okay Tony Number One. The scientific name for banana is Moussa Sapien term. Mussa sapient him. Does that mean it's multiple choice a yellow and sweet be something you appeal see fruit of the wise men de musical fruit. See. I must say. Something you peel. Okay the correct answer is, and by the way I didn't tell you guys you get to write. Down with but I think we can probably do you have a pen and paper there. Okay. Great. But you can probably do I'm not sure you'll need it but anyway. So Kurt says be something you peel Scotty says see fruit of the wise men. The correct answer is Scotty fruit of the wise men. S Eight is like anno say like a Homo sapiens. Correct. Okay. This is. This is not multiple choice. This one is just. A test number two. There's only one state in the US where bananas are grown commercially. Can you name it? Only or anything while they or music while they are. Only. One state in the US where bananas are grown commercially. Correct. Can you name it? I mean Scotty put that up and So you're holding up your answer and now you're T I think Kurt. I'm GonNa Take Scott his answer. Okay. All right. We have a couple of answers Scotty. What do you think it is I think it's Hawaii. And Kurt. Okay I'm GonNa, go with Alaska okay. Once. Again. Thanks you're right. It is Hawaii. Dole Dole baby although at one time they were also grown in southern California and Florida. And the overwhelming majority of the bananas Americans eat come from countries in Latin America and South America I should say most of these banana factoid cam from a site called the banana police, which I believe is a children's book but there's like banana fun facts on it so. Banana. Police. So right now Scottie has to Kurt I'm sorry you have on the same team we're theme team. We're. All Banana things together one banana banana win for one of you is a banana win for the. I'll just smile. Try to from? My. Three Scary The Banana Club. Museum. Did I don't even know if you know this existed the Banana Club museum houses the world's largest collection devoted to any one fruit. How many banana items does it contain and this is multiple choice. Two thousand BE FIVE THOUSAND C. Seventeen Thousand D- twenty thousand now, Scotty don't hold your answer and I will reveal a Kurt. Offense Kurt. But Kurt you guys. All right. So indeed current says C. Seventeen Thousand Scotty says de twenty thousand. Look who's on the board. The correct answer is seventeen thousand. Specific. Here my here, my theory on this one is. Neither of US know the answer that no but there had to be when you're writing those questions you're going to. It's like it's a very large number. So you have to put one number larger than because it seems crazy that they're seventeen thousand, but there has to be one that's even crazier. Look at that. Did you do well on your sat's with your ability to? Assess. How test questions are put together. To, Johns Hopkins that's no joke. That's a hard school to get into. Apparently. Yes. Identify colors you get into Umass and get some like you get the pell grant. Grant Seventy thousand. It is ridiculous that there's that many though I had trouble envisioning. How many that really is. A Lot. Museum is in Mecca California near Palm someone just send us up with someone just tried listener just tried to go and it's close but she took some photos from out front and there's some crazy stuff. There's like a was like a banana on a toilet. Outhouse, the outhouse restroom was just a banana sitting on a toilet and that's as close as our are banana could get and But we've had a few people go there and also I was going to stop there on the way back. I was on a little road trip and then I saw it was closed because of all this the great coir. So we'll get there one day. We should do an episode from there which the next time you're on come out, bring the FAM- We'll do one out in Mecca I would love that. Okay Number Four Show. which sentence is correct. A. A cluster of bananas is called a hand. A single banana is called a finger. Be. A cluster of bananas is called a bunch. A single banana is a unit. See. A cluster of bananas is called a foot. A single banana is called a toe or d a cluster of bananas is called a bundle. A single banana is called a single. Do, you need to hear that again? I have an idea. Okay. All right. What do you guys think? All right. Scottie says a cluster bananas called a hand, a single banana called finger and Kurt says be a cluster. Bananas is a bunch and a single as a unit Scotty is correct. Oh, isn't it? Weird Finger I knew the finger y'all got to know the fingers. That's the craziest part is, did you grow up? I always thought they grew down? They didn't. This isn't that crazy I. Know they have a horrible carbon footprint I. Know it's like one of those things they like takes a ton of water and then they're having you have to ship them by boat like but yeah they're not they're great. They're very healthy for you but they're not environmentally the best food. Sorry. Sorry Banana Lovers. Killing the planet. All right this is the final question I can't win at the. This one's with five fingers. This is for the win. if you. Want. Okay number five about seventy, five percent of the weight of a banana. Is. What? A fiber. Be Sugar. See. Peel de water. What percentage I'm? Sorry. Seventy five. I'll go opposite my friend I think he might be right there. So Scott says be sugar. Kurt says De Water Scott. Just. Scott is doing that he knows he knows it's water. Come I. Think you both win. The answer is water. You both win on my God. You guys tie humans just like humans. Like everything. There's I didn't include it but there was some crazy like the average American in a year eats like pounds and pounds of bananas I don't but someone else's eating double the amount to make up for me I. Guess. I've had kids. Yeah. Sorry. Scott. Got Good. No No, no I. I was doing a show out in Hawaii and I thought it was dehydrated because it's really humid there and we're shooting outside a lot and they were like you need eat tons of bananas for the potassium because it prevents cramping because my left leg was cramping and then it turned out that I just gotten bit by a spider and was making my leg cramp and but I was Like consuming, they had this mixed drink called like drunken monkey or whatever, and it was banana. Dak, with Coluna I was like no alcohol just giving those and I was drinking those bananas. They have these special ones out there that are called like, Apple Bananas or something they're really small and sweet and I was housing them and then ever since I like it, I'll eat it as a snack. The potassium thing my my wife's friend went into labor and she's like Super Super Hippy dippy super holistic. So she was for like ten hours only drinking cook. Honor. And then she had like they had like and she was trying to do it all natural and everything, and then eventually she had to go to the hospital because she had had an overload of potassium because there's so much potassium. Shot she was being super healthy chug coconut water during labor and then cheap bows what like center to the hospital because she had too much potassium and it was like doing something fucking crazy to our body. That crazy because you're just like, Oh, God, this coconut water being healthy. Yeah. Like you. That's like when you hear about people on ecstasy who drink too much water, right? How how is that? How can you overdose on? Water? Yes I have I'm my daughter. Says Commute To drink less water because I. Do Drink. True I've since I've cut down. Wait what indicates you drank too much water. All of my electrolytes were low on my blood for like months. How was low Mi- tip Tahseen was low all these all the things that if you drink a ton of water, you just diluting your blood. Essentially I was made I was drinking like three hundred dollars a day. Why did you feel like it was a healthy thing or I love it. Love Drinking. Water. Just. Love love drink water. I think honestly it's got it's like an oral fixation I. Always I'm the same way I started smoking when I was young breaking alcohol. We're used to like, Kirk, did this new. York to you where he always had a now gene or one of these aluminum bottles are bottles or whatever and but when you're New, York, you're walking like five six miles a day like you know you're just walking on the subway walking upstairs. You're always some and there's no water fountains in New York like you're never drink in la you're Kinda you go from house to Card Restaurant House the car to wear so I think just also you probably needed more water when we were in New York and now it's just Now. You're just flushing your system. Do you're just? Too many times I had just I had also had a forty ounce like that was the main thing stopped carrying a forty ounce but water bottle with me because I would just fully fill up a forty ounce water bottle every time I could which was all the time. So it just constantly drinking I was drinking or whatever. Seven or eight, three, hundred ounces of Water Day. And it is like a can be like a compulsive like just a thing to do like I know if I'm ever. In a meeting or it's been a while but like doing like a TV appearance or whatever. They always give you a bottle of water myself just like drinking and just because it's right there. There's something I was going to say. What was it? A where in Brooklyn, did you guys live? Same neighborhood weirdly. Yeah, we lived in Windsor Terrace, which is on prospect park. Southwest and it off the train and it's a great residential neighborhood that towards the time Kern I live walking distance maybe about fifteen blocks from each other just coincidentally and But towards the end there, they like bars and restaurants and little boutique places and wine shops started running. But in current was there and then I came years later it was all residential is great. I lived on Ocean Parkway, where were you Kurt Fifteenth Street or something? I was on the. Street it was like Jeremy Lock Long. Yeah and then I moved to sunset park. Nice. I lived in Carroll Gardens and I missed it so much every nice yeah. All right. Let's do just me or everyone. This is the segment where people right in with things they think are doing they wonder is it just me or is it everyone? Perfect for us. We say whether we do it too. We have a SPOOK A- fight song heck year. This. At that Oregon. All right Jay inslee says embarrassed as fuck when I accidentally play a video on muted on my phone in the work or public bathroom. Not, embarrassed I. Don't I've never had to happen. But I had happened. Yeah. Yeah I haven't had it happened in a bathroom, but I have had it happen where all of a sudden like a waiting room or something and all of a sudden your phone is just blaring and definitely not watched. So I've definitely scrolled past some videos where I was just like if if for some reason that the volume came on, I would be embarrassed by people hearing that so I will just scroll past it did not look at it because I'm just worried that it might come out even though I know exactly how volume comes out of my phone. Tap on it, but I always wear I'm just like I. don't even want to get away from that. I'm always surprised though by people in public who have no problem just having the volume on with their videos watching it drives me crazy. Exactly. I can't do it. I watched someone get on. This was just like right before covid. Someone face timing with another person. And then get on a fook elevator and then continue face timing in this small fucking elevate. It was cool. Razi House like bring the asteroid humanity this deserve to live. Yes it's so crazy. And then we had listened to their two sided conversation and we could see them and it was it was crazy. About yeah exactly. I mean you're you're fuming at you're so angry you couldn't hear them anymore and everybody is and it just as I always think people that do that people that talk on their phone when they hold it out sort of flat in front of him like they're about to take a bite of pop tart or something, and then they're just talking on speakerphone. In life feel like nobody listens to them and they feel small unheard and it's like they do that just to be like I dare you to say something to me I have a right to speak. It's like when people crosswalk. And the light turns green and they stare at you like I dare to run over me. It's like all day long that person's getting told what to do and they feel small insignificant and that's their one little power flex its like yet, and they're just they're waiting to say something because they already know they're funny thing they're going to say so the best thing to do is compliment that person really big but sarcastically and just let them hang themselves basically. Like. What would it confidently would be like your hand and that phone were born to be together and then just walk away and then they're like, that's the weirdest thing that guy could have said. But yeah, they feel small and quiet, and then they do it to feel loud and in charge and I just some like no I. Pity Them I'm like go have a miserable existence. Okay Excuse me Guar. Machine. Or? And that is a reference to my son used to think that the word for he's to say that way he pronounced Fart was Gort and More. Yeah. I told him. He was a fart machine and he kept saying I'm a machine that was very funny. Okay. So guar machine says sometimes when I'm stirring something in the kitchen, my tongue twirls around in my mouth. No I don't think I. Have I just told my tongue in no I don't do that I. Don't think I do that. You. Know. I don't think. So art machine think you might be operating on a whole `nother level. I mean sometimes when I'm walking or I used to do this I don't do it anymore anymore because it's pretty intense. Like when I would walk on a sidewalk, the four I would count the corners of squares but using my teeth. So I would like click them because I'm like I have eight points of connection in my mouth on my teeth so I would count like four and four like over and over and over again cow eights. Yeah I don't really ever talk about that. You did. Is like a like the essence of this segment just mere everyone is shit like that like that is such a classic just everyone that's so good. But how just? How like you'd like connect two points like how had where are these key? Explain. This. It's like it's like two were on my near my molars where my molars would be, and then there's these two like like the point ones and then the front ones, and then there's like one, two, three, four, and then one to. Step on one, you would count the four corners, one, two, three, four, and then you step with your other foot count the four corners, and then just count by eights as you walk like eight, sixteen, twenty, four, thirty to forty. Six four, and this was when you you're walking on wet surface. Sidewalks or anywhere if you're stepping off a curb than the four points of the curb can count. The national inside you imagine the inside the one, two, three, four. Like, the four corners of the curb. So like you take your foot and you're like that on it. No you could count them in your minds mental. Actually. Yeah is that most CD thing that seems like or some thing like I I worked with a guy that had the measure everything three times, and he would look at me like when we were like installing floorboards toilets or anything and you go Scotty, I, know I have to do it three times I. Go I don't Care Neil do whatever you gotta do any? Yeah. You would have to measure three times and then he'd drive the nail in those crazy. Yeah. No, it wasn't. It wasn't something I ever had to do or felt like bad if I didn't do it. Pretty much stopped doing. It was more just like enjoyable. Pastime. Yeah more like a way to pass time. I saw things by all the time I don't know why. Interests like if you're. Like if you're. What what's an example something you account by? AIDS. At anything like sometimes just counting by AIDS like I that. Remember that Stone Temple. Pilots. Song. And I would I how is this was back in the day? I wanted to do a bit about this and there's no bit with it, but I would just sing it. But by eight, eight, sixteen, John Fall, or thirty to forty forty. Fifty. Sixty. Seventy to eighty and eighty eight and keep going. But that was you Tony's a drummer though Tony. Don't you play on the eights? Isn't that like a thing? Isn't that a full more more fours? It's half of Eight. There's two of them in an aide so That is amazing. Wait what is the name of that Song I? Wonder if we could find like the Karaoke version? Dirty album. Big Male heart empty. Tiny amity. Long you don't. I would just be like an obsession obsession to sing. You don't have that doesn't mean we can't sing it. See if you can find choice aversion for courtesy over I will go onto the next one while you look for that. I'm already there. Yeah. It's GonNa love this segment. Okay. I gotTA get through this ad for staying on. Guess you can come back to me. Okay. Jill. Stare at says, wonder what's up with couples who have joint facebook accounts? Yes and also joined email accounts. Like sharing a toothbrush, which I think is and it's a big problem. Nobody should do that. It's like it's also not fun. Also just get rid of your facebook anyways like just facebook stupid to begin with. But join email like we kurt and I both responded Bananas Email podcast and the bananas. INSTAGRAM and it's like it's fun because I'll see what he does when I do but it's also like then we have our private. Then we have our life like I get somebody work emails if somebody was like, Oh, you got something from so and so I'd be like get fucking email. So I think that's Yeah that's insane I yeah. I don't understand it. Maybe it's Listen listeners. If you have a joint account, explain yourself either of you can use it to write in Air Iowa. NBA. Show DOT COM and explain yourself this. I know that my dad and my step mom have adjoining Malcolm but that's because my dad has literally never used a computer in his entire life. So whenever I sent an email to my dad, she'll respond but she'll respond as my dad. She dictate he dictates to her yes one hundred percent. Yes. I will get I can tell emails from my mom and I'm like that too. My Dad's voice like my dad just dictated that. It's weird about half show correctly. All Right Tony Are we ready. Yeah although are you are you going just for the chorus or you want the verse? You know. What I'M GONNA. See how this works with the Zoom Zoom at all. Oh. Yeah. There's going to be a leg. No matter what when I was young New York my friend was a manager for pretty big models and he had one named Natalia Body Nova who became the new face of Calvin Klein and C. K. One and I had nine dollars and was. Wearing thrift store clothes but my older body was like we'll come 'cause we're doing an a party for Calvin Klein to announce that she's the new face. So we go to one of those Manhattan, clubs like marquee or something like that, and we get lead right in the line, the doors like two hundred people, and then he's like I have to go. Out and tell you you that thing that you have you can go up to the VIP sections lofted. So I go up there, I have a book bag on and it's it's Scott Weiland from stone temple pilots. Larry Flynn Boyle the Olsen twins the drummer for Velvet Revolver thinks like Matt or somebody think Matt sewer from guns and roses and me, and then I'm sitting there and they don't know the fuck. They don't they don't like talk to me. You can look down on the floor it's empty. That was the other thing I learned like clubs in New York. It's like half the people outside nobody's inside and it was and I just remember sitting across from Scott Weiland, Lara Flynn. Boyle. Being like this VIP and they let me this. Like human debris blow up here and I was just happy to have free bottle service but was. So I've been three feet away from Scott Weiland, which is a huge brag rest and. Was So weird. That is weird. All right we do it. All right. This should be the should be about the chorus right here. Okay. Let's try. A. For on all the the new and Paul. Is. Six Paul seven to. It. All is just the same thing without the words. Yeah Wow, it's like nine. Bucks. Does. Lauren. Now you do this now no one knows I do this now we do. All right and then we'll. We'll go out on. A just mere everyone that Alison Rosen sent in and I really did send this and I sent it the way that I like to get my Jay Mos, which is if you have one, please tweet it to the shows account, which was at Air Iway N. B.. F. New best friend. tweeted there and Use Hashtag J. M. O. E.. So I said I prefer a mouse to a track pad. Is it just me I. Think he'll a really I'm getting a not I feel hindered by like if I have to do something. Like, there's a time crunch or whatever. If I just have my laptop as opposed to my desktop with the mouse and everything like I feel hindered by the track pat or like oftentimes if I'm like copying a file over to something with attract patio, it's harder for me there's more control of the mouse I yes. I haven't had one in fifteen years but I think. I mean I've just had laptops for so long now but I think I think I like amass more to. Yeah. I admire so much room. Well. You had literally the F-. The digital world record like requires a physical space and if something is big enough like you keep moving it over, that's the thing I never liked about a mouse I even still have a mouse pad. Bring back in the day get custom ow pad that was cute you get you get a photo on it and then it gets all dirty and the near to watching dirty appealing and your This, it's super, gross? I'm. Tony. No I don't I. Don't I don't like a mouse I think the the last time I felt that way was before my like right as I got my first laptop because then you know the first time use attract pad takes some getting used to and you're used to a mouse, but you know that takes like a day or two and then. Anytime I've had to use a mouse since then I'm very uncomfortable, it's like it's such habit now of just going right for the track. What I I will say you know what I don't like is an economic keyboard. IS THE SPLIT? Yeah it's. So hard I'm so slow on those. I. Was getting my taxes done. I don't know a couple of years ago. Yeah She pays her tax. A lot of people don't. Pay Their taxes more than seven fifty. And I had to look up something at some in some bank account or something, and I was having trouble remembering, and then my CPA was like, do you WanNa just? Do it at my computer, which is first of all. That's always weird. When someone like invites you to sit at their computer and there. But he had one of those economic keyboarding things and it took me so many tries to get to the right you are out and it was. It was very weird feeling I did not like it. You guys so much for being on the show this way. Well. Thank you so much. This was wonderful. Was Delightful. I'm GONNA give a wait a minute. Man I always I am just I become a real forgetful read. You're the best you're the best. You pay your taxes you're the best. Thank you. I would like to say hello and welcome to my new Patriot subscribers. S. Right William ask Dan h Sara H v Megan F. and Jodi W. Hello and welcome again I've done the hard sell for Patriot patriotic dot com slash house rose in super superfund. And also, right now, there's a promotion you can sign up for an annual membership and if you do get two months free so it's draw months for the price of months if you like savings go do it now also my Monday episode with Bob Saga is up. 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