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"White Sox bring back Tony LaRussa" with Ryan Theriot - Episode 034

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"White Sox bring back Tony LaRussa" with Ryan Theriot - Episode 034

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I have felt the second awhile Fingers crossed it's not co- bit i'm gonna go get tested once for this and You know hopefully all's well some coming home and a half weeks so i guess if there's one silver lining of this that and getting sick before i come home so then i'll be able to get the full home experience on back all but Kinda sucks right now especially with the great weather last football game. This weekend it's really inconvenient time dissect but i was at the focus on my health above have times. Okay buddy. I feel bad for you all right. Let's let's talk about this episode. Your white sox hired tony larussa. After firing manager of the year candidate. Ricky run to who took the outsiders to the postseason for the first time in twelve years. They hire a septuagenarian hall of fame. Coach tony larussa. Clearly jerry reinsdorf decision. Everyone knows the story that he never got over the fact that he let hawk harrelson fire. Larussa thirty four years ago. When hawk was the general manager and now late in life. He's making amends. Jason mo- sox fans hate this. Move if you were to believe talkradio here in chicago. How do you feel This so this is one of the things. Obviously i q things about the white sox before they get out. Here was the things that might happen. People were talking about the field. Talk about and when i heard the first time in my twitter like there's no way how they're going to do this because the back was against the organizational direction of the young team with players that are under control for the next five sixty. You would like a manager was used to working with that. Aj hinch and and manager who is able to cater to a young clubhouse a clubhouse that obviously has a lot of fun. let's celebrations in the handshake. I mean clubhouses very diverse of one of the most diverse clubhouses in baseball. And they hire seventy six year old manager who has left baseball before defensive shares manager challenging and statcast than in the game. So it's gonna be really interesting honestly. I've been telling all my friends and everybody i've talked to. They win the world series next year. The move will always because for me. Because all i ever wanted is to see what sock world series but if we are two years on the line and the white sox of not wanting wealth two years at the very least made it to the world. Series is one of the worst in sports history. The white sox had the opportunity to the top five managers in sport and age agent. Alex cora and then an interview either of them which is an absolute disaster in its own right but rousseau there's no doubting that he's the greatest man history of the sport that i believe the game has tapped them up. I don't know he's going to be able to adjust to the game. Like i said he was not thankful the last time when the manager challenges in fact he. He's been retired for three years before the manager challenged within the play. Or you're going to be and feel the series he's going to be able to just three better minimum our guys giulino or dallas parkway going to be left in the game for too long i. I'm really concerned. I'm intrigued and i'm really hoping that. End up being the best move. But i can't help selfish on jerry reinsdorf part but you know what's crazy though is that he's supposed to be the anti analytics higher. Get when tony. Larussa came into the game as a manager. He was considered the nouveau manager. Because he was a lawyer he had a law degree and he was outsmarting everybody else and people thought. Oh gosh this is new school baseball. It's never going to work so if he was able to change it back then. What's not to say that he can't adapt now. He's a smart guy. Well he's the only time. Baseball fact white sox test stuff in to stanford grads and as ancient sam fold so clearly. There are other smart guys out there. I suppose the cards of the ability to it for a second time to a changing game at the age of seventy six is something that i really really worry about i again. It goes back to shifting. Goes back to do. Pick changes pinch hitting tampa bay. Rays came to game short of winning a world series. And they did that through. Platooning airings teams for the most part using openers have their playoff games and fifty percent playing the match. Yes it ended up coming back to bite you having cash in the the cold lake now and in the fifth or sixth innings saying. But that's just a small small sample size especially for ran. The table was topsy. The american league made it all the way to the world series and put up a fight against an incredibly good dodgers san so again you need to have analytics baseball. And what. I've been telling people what are the most the higher rehires around him. It's not going to be as much about hamilton about the bench coach in the pitching coach. Now i just hope that they can make the right decision with those two because truth be told. The bench coach is likely going to be the max manager and if they get somebody good like joe's fodder from the astros or a heard dickers- he's named thrown out there a million and a half times Even to sign yada your bellina the backup catcher. The theory wonder yati couldn't breathe it into being a future manager because of his leadership and game calling skill so it's gonna be more about. Who hires around him. Obviously the micro. The microscope will be very much under this year. it makes me laugh a little bit to the white sox had has this in their hands. Ej answer could have fired him world series winning manager when the no successful managers. Recent memory say what you will about cheating. But i think that a lot of people would rather have a proven cheater than seventy six year old at this house while you're gonna see lot of them now that he's in the division and that could really really come back to the white sox rhythm stars is absolutely you know who else is in the division the one of the youngest managers in baseball rocco baldelli from the twins If former larussa understudying. Mike machine and terry francona include went. Who he could be seen the end of his managerial career. And then the indians are going to hire young. They can hire sandy alomar junior. Who was brought up to the white sox role in. There's so many storylines especially in the al central next year. And i really hope to. God the ricky renner retired somewhere else because that truly is one of the most depressing sad baseball stories ever especially for white sox end up winning the world series in the next two years. But you know. I do agree that they needed to change. And it's gonna be so interesting seeing how larussa manages guys like Tim anderson and louise robert and jimmy court going to be allowed to to pull up his sleeves and show off his by us. When he's pitching probably not is anderson going to be able to bat with a homer in the third inning of the game in april. probably not. it's it's going to be so so so interesting. I just hope that it doesn't suck all the fun out of his team because they really truly have an exciting roster and it's only going to go three agency. Well i listen. I think that larussa smart enough to understand all of that. And he's he's not dumb enough to try to just impose old school ways on a team like that and suck the life out of them aggie and even said this week that once. Jerry reinsdorf told ozzy that he would not be the manager as was pretty upset about it but when he was told that it was going to be. Tony larussa is. He said it's the greatest move they could make. So why don't we jason. Let's bring in. Let's bring in someone else. Who has played for tony larussa. Maybe he can put your concerns at ease. How about somebody ryan -tario should we give them a call. I jason. so you're upset about the larussa higher. Because you're such a big white sox fan. I want to bring in someone. I'm not sure if he can actually give us make us feel a little better about it but he did play for tony larussa two time world series champ former cardinal and former cub now host of the riott podcast on one. Oh four or five. Espn baton rouge ryan. -tario is joining us. Hi ryan alario. Great peggy our you. We are doing okay. But i gotta talk jason off the ledge here because he really wanted. Aj hinch in chicago on the south side and instead it looks like jerry reinsdorf got his way and is kind of you know making things better at thirty four years ago when larussa was fired by the white sox played for tony larussa. So first of all. Were you shocked when you heard that. The white sox hired him and brought him out of retirement to manage again. I look i wouldn't say shocked was a little surprise. You know when when the Brought back last year houston kinda bianca. I thought i had say. And he's probably gonna come on and manage again talking to rival those guys had and you know let's stuff with No i mean. I don't think shocked the word surprise. Probably a little bit like you said that. There's some very qualified managers that are out there still but i think doing very job You know we you. You played for him right before he retired winning. Winning the title in saint louis. You were brought. I believe they traded for you right that season. I signed a finding a free agent. Okay so you signed as a free agent so take us back to twenty larussa. At time was sixty in his mid sixties late sixties. What was he like to play for. you know what what should we expect. Well you know. I was very blessed to play hall of fame. Caliber managers You know l. la and baker. Joe torry Tony bruce bochy. You know so. It was really awesome to me to be around. These base. Bikes and leaders Tony of all of those guys are prepared By far meaning nothing taught him off guard. He had sticky stotts and information for everything that was going on the of today's game We will not be too much for him. he's probably actually gonna love it. you know. And and And the great communicate. You know a guy that can get that can communicate with all different types of baseball player that you had no clubhouse. Major league can be extremely diverse Guys from all over. America different backgrounds. But with all the major sports you know probably soccer is similar but you have players different areas of the world and bomb different cultures and tony was just the master force communicating with all these players. Play hard for jason. Good thing that the thing that i've been seeing on twitter and honestly little bit and mentally stay with myself that i think people are getting the most caught up in the age. Seventy six years old is not young. No matter how good you look no matter how good you sound. Do you think that the age is really gonna matter because people are worried. So much about their god. It's gonna peak when he's eighty and we needed demand for the next decades. You think age is really gonna matter. What the objective is a racist to win the world series. That's a great question. i mean what. What is the manager. really do in any way. It's a great question to ask now more than ever when we see a move like kevin cash smell. And it's been rumored you know that came from cop and everybody says the general managers another shippers actually making out the lineup smile and and he manages just million in your head. You've seen managerial salaries. Go down because of that. They've added back in analytic support You know zoom meetings with harvard grads get never played baseball before telling you know major grand jury who should probably in what condition in a game has shifted and changed quite a bit. I don't think tony's age has anything to do with you know now. He's even in good health. I know that You know he's got a ton of energy But i i don't see that being a problem it would be a problem if he says. Hey guys i'm gonna manage for a couple of years and then i'm out you know. Then you gotta wonder free agents are gonna wanna come in and play. If they don't know what type of stability gonna be a banjo standpoint. But i see in taking the job. Jason and last he's got five six seven years in and you know to give to organization a couple named i've seen brought up your your and chris carpenter was mentioned as a potential to be the new pitching coach. And on your molina. Who's created this year twitter. This week the his name was mentioned as potentially being brought into the white sox backup catcher so can be on either of the two former teammates. The impacts and House like their abilities would help the white sox if they were coming out the organization next year we'll start ever see out again back up so You know we're talking about the greatest catch and every year on you know. I don't care what you say guys. Expensively impacted the game in an era where great athletes. I mean the the peak of the athlete in baseball and yanni was shut down the offensive game. Changer thought himself to be a a really good hitter. You know so. I don't see now if you could get chris carpenter to manage to coach and that'd be a great get car has some really interesting traits. We saw what he did on the field. You know i'm saying. Saudi did eleven in the world series. Great career prior to that but just a leader in every sense of the word players gravitated toward him when he spoke people listening. You know he's kinda got that commanding personality. You mentioned the game changing and get a little bit younger and and a little bit more. Flashy you know it. It's tony gonna have the ability to change. You know if you bring in. Chris rock and they're going to have the ability to change. Because it's not what it was five ten fifteen twenty years ago you know as far as the players expressing themselves differently and and the unwritten rules are starting erase as we've all seen so i think there's gonna be some give and take on both sides. Motorist this marriage to work. But i do think it's environmental higher anytime you can bring on and tony larussa. I think i think he gotta do. Y'all honestly i'm still just before and a few interviews talking about this. He's the greatest baseball mind. I've ever been around and i mentioned some pretty good ones and it's taking nothing away from the guys. I played for because they're all phenomenal managers but he just was excellent in a lot a lot of areas. That's really interesting. One of the things. You brought up ryan jason. I were just talking about and the whole thing about you. Know cana- guide change It'll be interesting to see if he can change some of his philosophies but just talking about whether or not a guy can change. I have to take umbrage. What's what something i've been hearing in chicago radio and people saying you know here. He was very outspoken against the colin kaepernick's and other athletes who followed in kneeling during the anthem. And he was asked about that at his press conference after he was hired and he said i've changed. I've opened my mind to it. I understand and i applaud the way baseball and other athletes are looking now at the injustices to people and racial injustices. And i gotta tell you like. I have to agree with him because i didn't like it. You know when it was happening. At first. I didn't understand it. I opened my mind. I've changed the way. I now see it and understand it and when people look and say oh come on. He can't change it. Drives me crazy because you know if we all can't have you no room for growth and becoming better people in our lives. Well then we're all going to be stuck where we've been the last couple of years and everybody you know hate on each other so i happen to think that he a smart man. He very intelligent guy. I think he is going to open up his mind to it. You know he's got children and grandchildren. I think he is smart enough to know that tim anderson is going to be able to do the bat flip because that is what the fans love on the south side of curl. And that's just how i see it and it takes them. It takes of very mature person to be able to do that. You know you mentioned intelligence and takes intelligent person to have the wherewithal and it's something valuation. I guess probably a better phrase but so you know what. Let me think slip back in and look at this and and really try to learn a little bit more You know about what's going on in our country and and in the way that we can approach affect change and and look. I think so too things couple both from in wishes just the world series this year but i felt like the games where I felt like the games were scripted. which which they all are to a certain extent right before the game starts. The manager has a really good idea of what he wants to do. But i think managers stuff because they should and didn't kind of manage their water feel You know and also you know kind of talking about the world series you you would see even a off all but you know you would see guys on the bench that had three hits the night before or just because the the number said that they play I'll give you an example. There was a game and this is from my play career. But when i was playing for tony there was a game when i was then. We're paying milwaukee. I think it was the playoffs and eleven. And i had just the brewers throughout my career I love hitting in that stadium ball like a beach ball over there for whatever reason in their pitcher spot so it was a match made in heaven. But i'd go in You know what about noon before the game get ready. And i wasn't in the lineup. And so obviously. I was pissed so i went and told his office that. Hey man what the hell's going on like achilles guys my my lifetime dining arbor and he you know whatever was here and you know the guy that was pitching. I can't remember who it was. But i had a lot of success off of them. I mean i was sure i was going to be in there. And you know he says ryan the number say you should play but i got some different numbers that say you should on this day when the temperature is below this. And then you know he goes all these numbers and mattresses. And and i'm looking at and i went in there with every incense get pissed. But i couldn't because you know he was right and lo and behold skipped schumacher goes out and he gets two or three hits. You know he was right. So i think managing with managing with your gut also managing you know using the information that's available. He's gonna be deadly if you would have put him managing the tampa bay rays this year. They win you know. It's a mixture between both all. There's not a doubt in my mind he's gonna manage circles around come of these guys that have relied solely on a laminated part rather than using their eyes to see sixty. You know who the hot hand back to our conversation in a minute. But i have you ever dealt with bunions. I have got to the point that i couldn't even wear shoes without having shooting pain even at night. I couldn't even pull the covers over my foot. It hurt so bad. It didn't matter if i was wearing slippers or boots gym shoes working out or heels for a night out. The pain was intolerable. I finally decided to do something about it. 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I think the second he walks in that quote policies gonna command so much respect that it's already don't you know there's there's certain people in our games that command respect you know when when when county would walk through the clubhouse or everybody shut the hell up you know when he called you in and and she knew was for something important now i was ten years ago and these guys probably you never paid against them but all you gotta do screw this guy's track record or ask around you know what type of manager what's the guy is i mean. I think our players are so informed nowadays. Where it's not gonna be not going to be very difficult. You know winning over a clubhouse 'cause i love by the way i love the white sox i love the energy they play with and i wanna be a great change I think it gives him more problems. I mean from a team. That's using with confidence. Anyway right i mean you guys have seen I think they have more now. Quick story about tonal. Probably talking too much but i apologize. No you're not just as great. You know he always talked about having an edge. Always that was his thing you know and so before the game started. He wanted to make sure that you know we had an edge and sometimes it would be. It would be a lot of times. I feel like he was just making stuff up the convention that we were better than the the opponent day he probably was truthfully but he was big on an on an edge as the cardinals any leather and we say so much versity but go. We would go into games there. The end convinced we were going to win when the entire country you know knew we were gonna lose. But but he'd created some sort of false sense of security that we have this thing like We can't lose today because it's seventy four degrees in the wind blowing more south know six miles an hour. We got Paulos pitcher in his. Era is blonde when september. Second like we go okay all right. Well let's do it done know we're win this thing so i think he gives them a boost yaw i really really do and baseball is such a confidence driven gain. You know. throw those numbers out the door. If you feel sexy in the batter's box and you're confident you're going to have success. And i watch kenley jansen and i love kenley jansen. I played with a wonderful guy. Got a great career. I walked kenley jansen and the world series going into his hat or you had a card in his back pocket when pension or came up and he pulled it out and he looks at the car. And i went you. Don't he doesn't have confidence in what he's getting ready to do. He's not prepared. Not his mind is sending. He's thinking rather than executing you know. Tony's going gonna give them that confidence. Not edge jason. I hope i'm making you feel better. definitely are but but he is. Y'all i'm just telling you. I witnessed it. I thought i lived at. I mean he'd beat the hell out of me for you know seven years when i played for the club and then i got to see it firsthand. You know exactly what it was when i was in saint louis. I know jason's got another question for you. But i gotta tell you when you're saying that about looking at you're looking at the card to see the player that was up next. You know. that's what bears fans are dealing with right now. And that's matt nagy who has phases so deep into his laminated play card. That he doesn't have a feel for what's going on on the field in calling a game with a feel behind it. so but i digress. That's a whole nother problem that we have here chicago. He wants to be honest. Ryan ryan. They are the best five and two team. That's okay now are actually the worst five into team. I actually picked them to beat the saints last week. Purely on temperature and condition. 'cause does not like playing outside. Yeah this is our weekly bears exasperation with them. But jason. i know you are at school. So i wanted to let you ask a couple more questions to ryan and ryan's got his podcast a tape as well so go ahead and jason again I watch just about every single white sox game religiously ever since. I was in fourth grade and i can tell you the biggest problem under renteria mental aaron. The just like just like your good stuff like where anybody at home watching with. Actually it wasn't the right decision or like ball joins through going under the gloves. Just mental layers knocking disciplined t not in your fundamentals up to par through that because they know what you're saying it sounds like he's more players manager than what he is paints into this and you're gonna see a jock analytically and culturally so how it's going to be able to shore up the fundamental and you bit airs premiums white sox team full circle. I can tell you a lot of that stuff at six and spring training. You know It's it's corrected with personnel number one guys in the right uniforms and the right spot Which would she'll be a part of you know But that a lot of those things you're talking about man that's address early. I mean that's addressed in You know in arizona or florida during spring training so You know that's my look a lot different the that this team prepares per season This year as opposed to the ones you mentioned in the past i believe is going to change. You know They prepare we prepare from day one to win in october and win. Ball go through your legs or you're not covering the proper base. You're throwing the wrong days through. Can advance a runner. Get a guy from third plus to if you can't do those things you can't win in october and it has nothing to do with personal numbers or You know accolades. i mean. Look at look. Could david freeze and and and really great player had a wonderful career. But if you could. David freezing. Got in october. You know he is dangerous. You know the the whole thing is a preparation you know to to to to win the world series. It's not a we gotta get to the playoffs. I'm telling you that that's not the thought. That was the one big difference with spring training for me. When i walk clubhouse spring training florida there was a feel of not and hope we have a good year. Let's let's let's you know. Make the playoffs. It was all right. We're we're winning the world series this year you know. How are we going to do it. Everything was the that was talked about. You know we we prepared for that and when the bright lights came on you know and it's it's You know go go on you know. The guys were prepared. You know they were ready to go. So tony larussa is one of the hands down when a great managers of all time the hall of fame. He's three world series four managers of the year that the ancient seventy six. What do you think he is personally trying to would. Why did he come back. What is what is he trying to get out of managing one last time when he's seemingly accomplished all you could possibly want to accomplish as a manager abysmal without talking to him. Because i have it. You know i with him a little bit. Haven't talked to him Without talking to him and can probably be the better one to answer that question. I think that he probably sees something almost outside that it's very interesting. You know. I think he would have to guess that that he thinks the team has a great chance to win a world series and probably he sat back. And watch going on in the manager's chair and went oh that's how they're going to do this. I wanna get back in so you know he wasn't gonna go manage a team. That didn't have a chance. A really good chance to win a will to that was not gonna you know so. He's probably looking for the right for the right opportunity and once he got that right opportunity job man and and you know. I commend him for doing. It told he's got a lot of energy. Does a lot of charity work. You know obviously stayed in the game front office standpoint. i he probably see something else. I do a lot of other people by the way. That aren't lifelong white. Sox saying something going on up there and go oh man. It's got a young core. They've got exciting players. They got arms like they could be set up to really good for a while. You know That he wants to be a part of that. And let's not forget guys you know another bears reference here. He's not he's not john fox's looking for his retirement job he obviously still has some juice to sit on the bench. He still wants to be a part of the game. Which i think it's great. And i'm i am all for it. I think it's going to be very very interesting. And i agree with jason's assessment. Let's see who. He hires says his bench coach. Let see who has proteges are going to be that he may be handing it off to in the next couple of years. So hey ryan thank you so much for taking the time to chat with us about tony larussa. We really appreciate your insight. Some great stories. Not a problem appreciate. Y'all have any jason. Thank you and you gotta take care of that that. Lsu tigers team man. You guys got some work down there. Tell me about it. Hey thank you okay jason. How about your predictions. Okay about prediction so college football this weekend. I know. I think i mentioned to say like when we're taking this weekend's pretty big for college football because by this weekend every single conference will be back because the pack twelve is opening up this weekend. The mac is starting this week are actually starting which is really exciting But anyway i'm going to say right now that the big hand is going to be an absolute disaster. The first week was cool. Don't get me wrong. But with the situation in wisconsin right now and the badgers and now cancelled to back game. And if they can't play third game will not qualify for the big ten championship. That would be an absolute catastrophe because right now look at the top of the big time. It's ohio state wisconsin. And that maybe indiana. But i don't think indiana's for real so if wisconsin ends up having to cancel a surgeon -secutive game and thus be ineligible the big ten championship. I don't think a big ten team will necessarily make the playoffs this year because ohio state would just lack the resume and they would also lack the schedule because if we can't other cuba to cancel games and i don't think ohio platefuls schedule so i know i'll probably want a little too log but i'm gonna say that no big time team will make the playoffs but writing. Okay yeah. I know you're trying to rescue a little bit. Box are going say of bears up making the playoffs. I know five three is especially when you start out five and one. But i still really like the fight this team and i really like the way that they match up against the division in particular they match up well against tampa and then tampa beat the wheels off green bay. So i'm hoping that that can translate. Obviously there's no transit of property in football. But i'm hoping that that can translate Once he gets healthy. I think david montgomery going to get more involved. So hopefully we'll see a lot less for patterson shock and hold off. But i think there's still a good old foes fold good at the end of the game and i think ten six. We'll get into the playoffs as wild card boy not to mess. Okay do you have one more. We're going to speed minnesota bright against there's three wins right there and the jacksonville and and then don't win. Okay okay so my final prediction. I am going to say that. I do not make any mueller each side or any appetizers thanksgiving this year. Well that's an easy win there. I remember what nixon all right. Hey here's my final thoughts. John lester found four thousand eight hundred thirty eight ways to say thank you to come. Fans the cubs declined his twenty five million dollar option making him a free agent so the pitcher may have played his last game in chicago. So it's been quite a ride. Six years co mvp of the two thousand sixteen elsie. Yes he helped. Bring the world series back to the north side after one hundred and eight years. He is the winningest lefty in cubs history. So how exactly do you say goodbye and thank you to come fans you buy them drinks. Lester bought four thousand eight hundred and thirty eight miller lights for cub fans at four different bars in wrigley wrigleville. He posted his bills on twitter under the hashtag. John's tab and for a grand total of forty seven thousand dollars he spent and get this. The staff got thirty percent or more tip seventeen hundred dollars and thirteen hundred dollars onto the bills in chicago. Leicester's time became miller time a pitcher with great taste. Don't know if he's less filling but everything you always wanted in a sports icon for cub fans and with that. Let's say our goodbye. Jason our thanks again to ryan -tario for joining us. You can follow him on twitter at our theory. Oh i'm saying that because you got to know how to spell his name at our t. h. e. r. i o. T. seven or listen to him on the riott podcast one. Oh four or five. Espn baton rouge on their facebook. Page ten pay our our. You know that works owned chicago. Podcast on apple. Podcast google podcasts. Wherever you listen as well as our network on youtube and not forget you can find. Podcast looks like amazon dot com on facebook twitter youtube pinterest to hey thank you all for listening a reminder if you love the show please leave us a review. Go to rate this podcast. Her dot com slash sports caster and follow the simple instructions. Thank you everyone given was safe. Jason be healthy. Okay buddy through. I wanted to undertake better job than i have been like the title earlier in the show on there and weather right now. Hope that all is well. We take you inside wearing masks of up notes but not more careful. All right buddy. I love you goodbye. Sports caster under son is brought to you by elektra. Flex a global leader in electrical conduit for over sixty years electrically connecting our world. And by. Foot first podiatrist. It's time to get your bunion fixed with foot first. Podiatrist exclusive sklar bunion. Ectomy no visual scars. No cast no crutches. no kidding visit foot. i dot com.

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"Chicago white sox. You knew it was coming well. I knew it was coming. I knew it was coming the moment when i found out. Tony bucer got another d you. I take alcoholism very very seriously. It's a disease for more whole sieff food. Sins seriously i mean. Do you see ring. Do you see my rain. I don't have any rings. I don't have any rings but apparently mlb major league baseball. I am back the other now bandits but back again more specifically tony larussa really chicago white sox really you mean to tell me you knew about his dui. I and you still hired him. Look it sent into proven guilty. I get that innocent until proven guilty. I get that alcoholism is something. That's very seriously or something. Did very serious and i take that very seriously. I've have Chicago white sox. You knew it was bound to happen. Do you really think that nobody was going to say anything. Nobody was going to say a word. This swept twenty one bound to something more was bound to happen. Something basically more things were coming along the way chicago. White sox hired tony larussa. No problem with it higher. Tony larussa after knowing that. He had a d. u. I not the not the one eons eons ago but more recently like before the higher i get that why get the fact that you're innocent until proven guilty okay. Let's play along. If i was considered an expert if i was considered something like the best at my job the best in my field the best in my profession. And let's say i took some time off away from that profession right okay years later. Let's say decades later. Maybe i decided to get back in that profession to get back in that few in i slip up. I made a mistake. I do something that leads to my detainment leads to my arrest and basically wise endanger right. Would i still get higher in a position on expedient what i still get hired in a position that i am a hall of famer in when i still get hired in a position that i am qualified for put with this baggage. Now when i i get hired for a position like that would you get hired in the same situation for position like that in there in lies the problem. Sure it's your team you can hire and fire whoever you want to and we can not like not like in critique all of that just the same. Okay okay okay. I got it through my hands up in the air. I have to throw my hands up in the air because this just makes no zero since ryan to make sense of it. I i really am. I am definitely given benefit of the doubt. I'm just throwing them around like going around. Light cake sickles. The number you have dialed is not in service at this time.

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Tony La Russa Hired by The White Sox, AJ Hinch Close to Signing with Detorit, MLB Trevor Lawrence Tests Positive for Covid

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Tony La Russa Hired by The White Sox, AJ Hinch Close to Signing with Detorit, MLB Trevor Lawrence Tests Positive for Covid

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We don't I'm going to go ahead and say that the that it's not the right hire for that team. The why was dusty the right high for this team because he's not abrasive? That abrasive and he needed to be a PR. Far Less micromanaging yes. Fair. Enough. I mean maybe Tony Larussa now that he's almost eighties a little less invasive. But you can't beat the. Manager he was to even ten years ago. Game with today's player Yeah Yeah. There's no question they'd think different and. I wonder how the players feel. Now I know that some of these dudes went totally Larussa was managed and they were they were in the womb. Yeah. Okay. When he first when he was in Oakland. Some of these cats won't born. Most of most of them yeah. So A Expected in the obviously baseball one of the best managers of all time in a highly respected and regarded baseball guy, the question is well. What's he seventy seven? Thirty six yeah is. Can He. See. The forest through the trees. Can He? From the simple thing of celebrations to the. Do Young Guy Tim Anderson throwing his bat towards the Dugout as a full. Handle that a decade ago. larussa wouldn't handle it. You have handle decades ago he would've set the guy down. The question is now. You could say all the right things how's it going to feel because a lot of time seventy six year olds are set in their ways I'm not saying you can't change and I'm not saying Tony needs to make wholesale changes. He's going to have to adjust just like gruden out in Oakland. When eight to ten years about ten years out and had adjusts in a few years younger than Tony Tony He's been a great baseball guy for a long time. But. The game does change and I'm curious how he evolves. There are a lot of people who have a lot of opinions. On this not the least of which is Jeff Passan. Let's hit seventeen. What Jerry? REINSDORF. With Tony Larussa Jerry reinsdorf is in his eighties right now, the greatest regret that Jerry Reinsdorf has I believe in even greater regret than breaking up the Bulls and giving us the last dance. Was, getting rid of Tony Larussa, nineteen, eighty six, and now with Tony Larussa in his. Third or Fourth Act. Back. Managing one of the best teams in baseball. That's a thirty four year. Regret. That's pretty net all that's say you're operating you got a problem keeping on he was managing. The He got rid of Tony Larussa when they were wearing the white. With the blue and the red riding the chest. It looks like the MLB logo. Exactly they would. He was the years when they weren't sure now that was like seventies early eighties, seventies, Chet Lemon probably early eighties. there. Was One season they were the sliding shorts with high white sanitary socks. untucked white jerseys went Chet Lemon and Richie's this were playing there from seventy nine to eighty six. There you got. So it was in between the. Late seventies early eighties I think is when they were wearing. The the sometime in the seventies early as they had the one season where they wore shorts, not every game, but once in a while. ZOMBA's short. Play. In their cleats out of their high white sanitary socks it was. Well. It's seventy six. There you go. So late seventies I I knew it was sometime and I actually. I think it was before Tony. cause. I don't even know if Tony would allow that. Right wasn't Tony Their seventy, nine, hundred, sixty, seven. It was because I can remember in my youth. Does that look cool in other padded sliding pants and then? And I thought well I don't know that the cool and it was it was. As a kid a kid you're like Oh that's nice. Change over the summertime wearing shorts and then you realize oh That's exactly. That's exactly right. Jeff passing also had this to say. Was this a head scratching higher. This is not inside the white sox organization, a popular higher. What is Tony Larussa going to do with this dynamic group of players with Tim Anderson with your arm on Kata with Louis Robert with a lawyer and manage you can go on and on about the dynamism of this team. How is Tony Larussa going to fit in and going to invigorate it and going to be the guy who accepts bat flipping who accepts? Things that were just not part of the game when he was in it. And Jeff passing also said, what is the biggest challenge facing? Tony Laruso guys of Tony Looses Ilk. Managers that ran everything. Just, not in baseball anymore those one person put it to me earlier today. If you opened up the managerial job for the twenty, nine other teams in baseball how many of them would a called up Tony Larussa and said, you're our guy? The answer zero. The answer is that reinsdorf wanted Tony. Larussa, and thus Tony. Larussa is now the manager of the White Sox. That's exactly the reason. This is when owners get in the way of being smart. We saw yesterday if it's real or not. Everybody they're assuming that it was going to be AJ hinch is well, they had the internal email that was sent out or whatever the email saying you know we've hired a new manager and had AJ hinch his signature undertone of the Russa's picture and it right and now it appears that Aj hinch is going to be Detroit Tiger Congratulations Tigers on the greatest gift from God that the Chicago White Sox dumb enough housing to go higher AJ I don't get why aging. Yeah layoff al Qaeda I mean this was A. Hint should be the white sox. Well, they delivered him a gift. They delivered the Detroit Tigers gift is what they did. Here's Tony Larussa on a what he thinks. Well, of course, they have a chance to win and obviously at seventy six, he'd like to be a part of it I think all managers would understand this everybody would understand this. How rare it is to get an opportunity manage team. That's this talented and disclosed a winning. Most of the time your chances are are the opposite. So the combination of. Looking forward to get back down there and and checking myself, you know to have the energy and all that stuff and the white sox making the call. with a chance to win sooner rather than later. I'm excited that they made that choice and looking forward to what's ahead. That's Larussa hiring a guys got check energy. Well. You Might WanNa, check yourself. Maybe for the six game season, I would have gotten down with this one, hundred, sixty, two games. He's probably GONNA get tired. What if they say what if they treat it like certainly do like older broadcasts and say, Hey, you don't have to travel on some of the road trip you stay home I. Kinda it'd be hilarious all. I honestly think pitching coach hitting coach will be the guy who runs out and goes and gets the pitcher whenever they're going to the. Questions eight against him on age. Put it this way say. He's going to have to have a lot of energy for a buck sixty, two at seventy, eight, seventy, six years old now one thing about this too is here's what I believe and we know Tony Larussa is history but you know what? Everybody's eight that there's a lot of great coaches that got to a point where. That it's like okay I don't want to say the Games passed him by, but you get to a point where say you're seventy six right and they just got rid of a manager that everybody was pissed off at because he didn't use the analytics right? He was terrible making decisions in Game Baseball Analytic Linda. Well, we're about in the players griped about Antonio was telling us all feel old school baseball and every not going to match I don't think. So but here's here's the deal at I believe this. The White, sox if they win a world series are not GonNa, win it there. They'll win it in spite of his decisions. Yeah. They lose at aren't very good. A lot of it'll be because of some of Tony Larussa old school decision I'm sure he'll make some calls. Guys wouldn't that will work out, but there's also be caused where it's like every single number every single just modern day baseball point in a different direction and it'll cost them. I'm anxious to see what happens when they go through a little either way a winning streak that he's made calls on that were not analytical that we're just feel as an old school Beijing guy and if he gets to the point where the chess starts to pop out shoulders back saying see I told you. That this is the way you're supposed to. Then all of a sudden they go through a losing streak where analytics needed to be applied and weren't gotTa have a mix. It's obvious but Tony has never been you at seventy six when you take that job. REINSDORF apparently, the way that sounds was going to hire him regardless we deal now. But when you go in there and with with Han in the front office and you're talking about this and you probably agreed Tony, we gotta do things a little bit different than you did ten a decade ago or twenty years ago when you were winning world series and urine Saint Louis and urine. Oakland, and doing all those things, it made you a hall of fame guy things have changed even a decade five years from now things are going to be different. So how how are you going to handle the key is when you're a stubborn micromanager from the past when that happens, can you adjust to it or does it become so? Uptight that you say, well, this isn't what I. When you those? Well, back in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, seven. Back, in one, thousand, nine, hundred, five, I was a good player right in my mind you get my point a good player now. So and I don't ever say that age is Dick. Lebeau was coaching defenses at eighty and phenomenal. Okay. I don't have problem with that but. I don't do an adviser. He was Arizona's 's front office all these things. What is I mean you ask your players to adjust has tony and that's I don't know I don't know it's hard to change those spots. At that age? A little smaller bigger, but to completely change him or get rid of him. If there are things, Tony can't I mean literally cannot do. Get a decade ago if I'm the white sox begging him to look at what dusty Baker did here and say I need you to be dusty dusty everyone. Yeah. Let everybody everybody run everything and you're basically just hanging out making you're making decisions but you're letting embryos handle the grind and the important stuff. Well, we come back with here with Tony Larussa has to say about protesting celebrating all the things that have become. On. The front burner. In Twenty Twenty and. How Tony's GonNa handle now will they just automatically disappear? No, there's things Tony's got to recognize it when Conseceutiuve Maguire were bashing home runs. Thanks for a bit different. And it's going to be different Chicago and the expectations are through the roof because this is a world series caliber roster. Players every day and they've got that type of young talent. How you deal with like I said, some of these guys won't even in the womb. By the time Tony Larussa was they were teenagers playing little league or plant you know. Babe Ruth League Baseball in some weren't even born when he started and was managing world series. So we will discuss Tony Larussa on celebrating next sports talk seven hundred. This is sports talk seven hundred home of the Rockets Astros and the best lineup in Houston sports now back to Sean Salisbury. Apparently The white sox are down with OPIE P. Tony Larussa. No Song when it came out. You. Know. BBN IOANA. Jesus Ferguson Jesus did. Not Denying that. That was I don't even know what they're saying you. Know I don't have any instrumental though. So if you WANNA freestyle go. I've not free style. You know what I like to do I like to beat box sometimes. Filming here. Let's go. Shot if you get allow talk start beat boxing sit down. You got this I got to you know. What if I have to Hawk in? Don't beat. The plastic. That's exactly right divider. Exactly. Right. ABC's here long. Joss the and I'm here and we're talking Tony, Larussa. And we'll also get the tea law Trevor Lawrence not to be confused with Dehaenne, right? Josh. Exactly. Let's let's can we go back over three? Do a rewind hey, Josh what do they call? Tennessee running back. Derrick Henry his most common names king but he will probably be called. dehaenne from. Your Walk out of here right now. Journal. Arts. We'll get to that here shortly test positive for covert will not play ten. The protocol, and then Notre Dame next week question is what will happen. So the next handful hours important Clemson we'll get to that there are thirty one and a half point favorites over Boston College keep that in mind. Yeah. Boss four and to just keep that in mind. As, we'll get to our specs pick a little bit later. All right. Tony Larussa. I guess we call not law to see what I did there t law law there. Do you think it's seventy six anybody calls Tony. Larussa at law. I don't think so you don't think so T-. Roles you think somebody was out the Reuss what's up Bruce Bruce Yourself. Walking in. Rose Up Roost W. What's up? It's SUP reuss. You know don't you pick Sounds like a very common. Recalls Manager Yeah because for instance, parcells. Bobby Knight Animal Roussel Horse Buddies Right. I. Mean. They go to the horse rate. I. Mean you think there's three those three cats together some of the stories were there at the horse races. and talking a little abrasive. That in common and all three of them probably aren't into analytics in common and all three probably get little pissed off when you question. Their old school ways right but. I don't you think like parcels and and Bobby Knight when they're at the horse race says they roost when you go up there hey, put this. Horse Number One and I want the the TRIFECTA I mentioned they talked to each other a lot afterwards I saw I just aren't for Sale Saint Louis C. Bobby Knight just saying anything it seems to military stringent to say what's up roose? Yeah. A sub bruce I don't see it. You know I don't see it. Do you think Reinsdorf said Sup Roussy on how you ought to be my manager I? Think REINSDORF is too busy sucking on a wall. Where there's original. He always sounds in damn lasting. So He's selling candy in his mouth could have what what was our candy that we talked about the other day the. Zeller's not not czars. They're the ones the ones that came up A. Jolly rancher out like a jolly rancher, his mouth is that what you're telling? All Right Tony Larussa one of the tight. So odd at this stage at like one of the main things how you gonNA handle guys who celebrate, right? Well, here's what Tony Larussa said about celebrations now that he's a seventy six year old manager on a world series type team family is so important and the culture. So important. Issues we discuss in these last two calls. With it's my my feeling on You know protesting. Racial injustice or whether it's celebrating something that you accomplish on the field, we discussed at length in you've heard. from me, how how I feel about it and and I think that the organization feels that. I'll be sensitive and And in be supportive. And also, I'll have my opinions that that I'll. Of. Presented the players, but I'll respect them. And stand behind. They are and Tony Larussa that was a lie I'll be sensitive I'll give but I'll give my opinion it first time frigging him Anderson throws a batter. Lewis Robert runs out of does whatever or have been as bad float he gonNA. Do you gonNA take them down a tunnel on. Them and they're going to. To revolt, I can imagine whenever player gets hit by a pitch after you're celebrating too hard. The player will want his manner to defend him and it'd be like well, it's kind of the unwritten rules you gotTa Kinda of expect it, and that's just going to be starting at five to make more and more players just be like you're you don't understand today's baseball. What if what if? Tony Larussa. is a different dude. What if he's changed if you change completely, can he be a better manager? He was a great news. No no I'm talking about Kennedy a better manager. Then we thought he would be because he's changed or will a guy who? Will Guy who's? Let's say one hundred mile an hour throw decides I'm GONNA use my? Off Speed stuff more than I am my overpowering stuff and then he goes to Helena handbasket. You're not gonNA with his best you get my point if Larussa. What am I D tours out of his abrasive micromanaging ways as a softer gentler, Tony abrasive softer. Gentler. Tony. Larussa with his players. Will it affect as managing or can can he at seventy six years old be the exact perfect fit for them. Rant he picked to me he can't be the exact perfect fit I. think this team was this team spit to me of the Astros before twenty seventeen after that twenty, six, th season Aj been here. But they needed different sorts of players but Asia was the right guy in charge in guys came in and boosted like this doesn't boost a young team per se to me i. think that you can also hire guys kind. Of like how the rockets here were Stephen to find a veteran head coach to you know help them with defense I. Think it's the inverse here word Lucy's define these guys who are GonNa Find Joyce. Bata basically find someone who can do what he can't do. He does he he stays himself and then you know gets these other guys to help blended to make the perfect manager quote unquote brush Dave Stewart as pitching coach. I'm kidding I don't think. Kidding I that that won't happen but I. I'm always willing to give a guy a shot, but he's got a lot to prove. This is a it is a very curious higher, but it's real simple. This is honestly a makeup call. That's what it is. Because it was I remember back when Jerry Reinsdorf Larussa go. There was a lot of talk about it and Tony's up going and having you know a hell of a career elsewhere and I mean if it turns out to be a makeup call that. Cost them the ability in this like because we've seen the here the window of guys being young and cheap when you have them is massive and that team just finally spent for the first time on a free agent big ever last year if it costs them this window of the ability to to win the title and get over the top and they're going to regret it. Yeah I listen. I'm always room for people six hundred. Gets he's got. Here's the thing. This is. If AJ Winnie's hired by Detroit, he's got a bigger uphill climb than Larussa does you just personality and let baseball take care of an understand you gotta look at the landscape you're in and the players you're dealing with these this day and I don't want to change his basic fundamentals of here's how we do it. You know we go out we're goldfield ground balls right? We're going to do it right but he's going to have to make some changes on how he disciplines and talks to players. Yeah. Seventy six and the way it's change you just does that's the way it is players run the show and it's whether you like it or not. There's very few guys you've heard Jeff Passan say With a manager when Tony was there Tony ran everything even though they had a general manager president you in Saint. Louis. Jesse had approval with the diverse. It was just the way it was and Mike Matheny learned from him and Mike Catt some abrasive side of them to so I I'm I'm always willing to give a guy a shot at this right now if you're curious about Well maybe the white sox didn't hire Aj hinch because of what happened here, right? Well, let me take you back to what Black Jack McDowell nineteen. Strengthen blackjack won the CY young and what was at the late eighty s early ninety somewhere in there. McDowell been early nine. Yeah and but here's what he said. About Tony Larussa cheating to see if we can kinda parallel to if there's any any parallel to either one of them, we had a system in old Comiskey Park. In the late eighty. Gatorade out and right center had a light. There was a toggle switch in the manager's office in a IN A. A camera zoom in on the catcher. Okay. I'M GONNA whistleblowers I'm. Getting tired of this crafts. There's that there was that Tony. LARUSSA put it in off to the head. The first team of all the things people doing steroids yet he's still in the game making half a million. You know no one knows he's GonNa go after that. It's just it's the stuff's getting old where they target certain guys let other people off the hook and you know like the media doesn't know it's all happened was going on everybody knows everybody who's been around the game knows all this stuff while Sunday became a big thing I have no idea. I loved by Jack Mandel still to this day because all of every bit of what he said there is so right listen there's a lot and. Guitar Plan Musician Blackjack and I were in del Mar having A. Cocktail. Early nineties okay. So Blackjack, and our having some one of the great if you just want an honest opinion. Big. Jacks will give it to you, and so we're in Grell Mar right near the beach and having a blast and just talk and everything. So this doesn't surprise me and here's what I know. I got I gotta we gotta get. We need to get blackjack on and I'm going to tell you why we seriously remember when he and I'm I'm Oh, come on get a hold of him and tell him I. Get. Your ass up on the West Coast come on my show, right we'll get him up. And I'm going to have Jack. Talk about this but you here and there when he said I'm tired of that. He's making a half a million I got news for Jack Dow. Just. been as the what he was doing, it was because Tony was still a advisory. Yeah and so what I'll do is I'll just T- it up for Jack when he comes on and say, Hey, meg about two million dollars now and he's right Jack Popoff that surfboard and put that guitar down for a second. My favorite part is about and talk about Tony's money. Is Him talking about the fact that? The media new but caused the media knew what was going on in baseball and still does yes. So we will see Tony Larussa Fares during all this. At the root. Root for success and I know that there's some people that are shocked. But twenty twenty one is going to be quick and so spring training. So we're about to find out if Jerry REINSDORF regret pays off for a young world series talent type team in two, thousand, twenty one can Tony Larussa change his. Ways. When it comes to abrasive micromanaging baseball, it's a little different than even when he managed ten years ago in two thousand. Eleven. By the time, he takes the field up next we'RE GONNA discuss. Our Big One is just going to be this. We're GONNA talk about Trevor Lawrence in this and the covert stuff. And, the effect may have on the national title landscape on him on. Clemson. And the rest of his career here in Clemson. And I think I mean when I say rest of his careers. The effect it may have on. Does he take a step back and say? What does it do on Clemson? Does it permeate through the team and is now going to be a three or four week thing for player after player after player important critical forty, eight to seventy, two hours for Clemson as it is for any team that goes through this. Now, the number one player in the country's missing game this week sports talk seven hundred we were talking about. Things that you could regret are something I'm going to tell you this right. Now you're not going to regret getting the new balance greater Houston today and seeing the fit specialist and getting into the perfect world custom fit with what is on your feet made a massive difference for me again yesterday headline new balance shoes on my feet when I'm doing my workouts and the moment feet. 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Say Alexa Play Sports Talk Seven Ninety on iheartradio. Towards socks seven, ninety, you guys know about T. Law Right? Little covert positive test name is trevor. Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence. He'll t law. Okay. Guarantee they call them that that's not even that's not even a question that's a guarantee. I'm just telling you not. A. Data on the phone. Okay. Let's just get one of his players. Hey. WHAT'S TREVOR? Lawrence nickname. Probably Sunshine I. Call them that. But I'm telling you some guys who just the t law thing just rolls. You know what I'm saying now cloven positive. Boston college come into town this week thirty one and a half point dogs. The bigger picture is Once again is my daily this my daily cup of tell you that it's not a matter of if. It's a matter of when. He most part whether twenty, twenty three before there's a vaccine. Somebody, make we don't want you don't wish it on anybody but every day we hear news that will this guy testify that guy test positive it's going to happen is the last college team is going to test positive for covert and ain't the last business it's not the last front office person is not the last salesperson. It's not the last person in the White House. Okay it just isn't. It's GonNa Happen. The doesn't know the difference between Democrat Republican. It doesn't know the difference between white and black doesn't know the difference between young and old. It doesn't know the difference between you and me it just knows that I mean if it happens. Okay. Some may be more susceptible to the I'm not telling I'm not trying to be the CDC to. It'd be more serious for them or that they don't have. They're not in a position to where they can go. You know that they still got to go to their financial financially can't stay away from work and they may be more susceptible to it or going to grocery stores. It just happens and Trevor Lawrence around college kids and who knows where got it but now The quarantine begins and then you wonder with all the people he's been contact with now. What right? So, somebody else more than likely this than what the initial test came back to where they haven't had any other positive. So right right. So the question is and see how that goes summer false positives, and some are some are negative negative boom it hits and some are. And the negative comes in and you don't know. Then that incubation period of couple of days or whatever it is when you get it. and. Unfortunately. The chances are I'm just going to say the chances are. On a college campus, you're gonNA run into right the there's chances, and if you've got it, there's a chance that somebody I don't know if he has a girlfriend. I. Got A girlfriend I? Think he does yeah that's right. Thirty six senior. On On twitter I think she was at the National Shave? showed her so that the lives alone but I would assume that means her a lot of the time. So she's probably got it. Prop. Chances are right. You live in the same house as somebody or spend time together swapping spit you're going to get. There you go. So and listen do does Trevor Lawrence deserve more care than the backup tiding on the team? Absolutely not God it's going to be talked about more because well, he's. That's right. He's the Best Player College football. The question is, what is now if you're Clemson, you're obviously concerned about your team's health from the people around. But you're also concerned you get the bear football part of it is. Is Our big fella going to be ready to play a top five team in the country. Notre Dame we've some people think it's going to be a final four team. What are they a week from now? Right? Days. From now they played Notre Dame next Saturday. which will be the game of the week and I'm quite sure that College Game Day. We'll be hanging around. Is it in south bend or Clemson I can't even remember I. don't even know where it's at but I'm assuming that's where college game is going to be when the top four teams two of the top four teams in America or top five teams are playing. Not to mention by the Way College Game Day or beat Augusta. One of the College Game Day is coming up to which will be frigging awesome. Yeah. Okay. If you're going to do it in twenty twenty with all the crazy fans, Augusta's a good place to do it fifteen years ago speak at a Tony Larussa. He's aged. You would've told the the folks at the masters. We're GONNA come to a really rambunctious fun college football show with energy. At Augusta they look you said. that. You See. Did you take your meds? And by the way, you know that what are those all those? That waffle house down at Augusta? down. On. The, corner. Of Dear College Game, Day van there and set up that right on that parking lot because guess what you're not doing. Rolling into Augusta. We've had a golf announcer that said you better have a good supply of bags because the ball went behind a green and hasn't been welcome back to Augusta Sakina. said that to both? Okay. He said if you hit the ball back there I'll. Be Back and he said the Greens like Bikini Wax, and our Guy Gary mccord unfortunately who's an frigging awesome. Never. Got Invited back. Yeah. Never broadcast again from Augusta now he's not. He's not broadcasting which I still think they're broadcast old school broadcast was better. That's just my opinion. Yeah. My opinion but neither here nor there. So just the odd thing of. College game goodness that people are saying why? Why not put it in on the Greens? It's GonNa. Be Awesome. The. Notre. Dame game his in South Bend Okay so that I can now you want a Game Day. My favorite recruiting trip even though its cold as balls. Is the his when you're a seventeen year old taken a recruiting trip to south bend seeing touchdown Jesus sued. And you know they were talking about the the the the boxing on campus they were walking through you into the book store and it was dreary and cold when I went on my recruiting trip there it was like. Oh my gosh. All the places they're all fun. But when you walk into Notre Dame, there's different right from church to touchdown. Jesus to walk in the field to play like a champion today all that stuff and then you walk into the head coach at Notre Dame's office you like. This is like going meet Father Hess Berg. It's like Gosh Dang. I'm seventeen I don't even know this, but it was overwhelming right? College Game Day, at on the number one team in. America. I'm assuming they're going to beat Boston college regardless. Yeah. Beat Boston College that Notre Dame Clemson at Notre Dame in south bend in the fall. When it's just starting to get a little cold right possibility you know that the weather now you could get a little bit of Snow Right Yeah I've in your thinking. Now. That's GONNA. There's there's there's college athletes. W people from that Game Day set. I'm talking about production people if they've never walked on. Notre Dame's campus that are going to be like. This is really cool. Yeah. I'm assuming all the people that have the the the talent has been there right but what an unbelievable place and it's just it'll be. It's a bummer that the fans can't be there. But even without fans, it's going to be challenge for whatever quarterbacks. Playing Clemson at that. Yeah and not only that, but it's going to be awesome. Just regained data be there 'cause the presence of Notre Dame is like waking up the echoes right is. Well take them to two times in a month. They get to go to South Bend and they get to go to Augusta. To what we call hollowed ground you know what? I'm saying yeah. It's like it's like religion right and they get to go be A. Dame literally is related. It is Gusta ten years ago like I said, if you try that they look. Sorry. We don't do college football and all that talking a little bit Louder Nano. No, we don't do that when you drive down Magnolia Lane that's not here now. Come on man. So what a great thrill in twenty twenty why not man but what if they're not gonNA be any fans? Those are two places that. Ain't a bad place to go south bend, Indiana Gusta. So be pretty cool. But Trevor Lawrence we'll come back and discuss the impact of this the impact. And I'm sure the frustration for college football with Wisconsin and now this continues to grow, but we had to know what the protocol. That this was common right? Didn't we have to know but we also what we do we also get a little bit more uptight when what? Star. which is still exactly that his life is no more important. Human being just like everybody else is. Profile but his travel or As. If it's more important than the than the the the middle linebacker. But that's the way it works. He's Trevor Large and he. Wanted to play through all this member he was one of the outspoken guy so not saying that's how I got it but he and he'll deal with it and you'll compete and the rest. Let's hope everything's Okay and there's no complications for anybody on that team everybody get back to doing. Lying Notre Dame, they lumo. Season's done well. Go look there damn schedule. It's bad. Yeah. Like it is ever UCF hold it against but the only saving grace 'cause because Lawrence and their land because the big ten twelve I mean normal your should be done but one loss they still may be able to sports talk seven hundred. Sean Salisbury Continues on seven ninety. So. Highly recruited. Young quarterback will take over for Lawrence this week, Boston College who's held in high regard pronounced Dongola delay if I'm not mistaken. He was a I remember him when he can lead eleven kid really signed last weekend really highly he'll put any claim he'll play whatever lawrence goes out. He'll get some run in. And they blow out a lot of opponents right but he's was a highly recruited high school k through three passes. Last week one of three eleven yards he's got, he's got a truckload of ability. When travel art are you just don't see the field vans from California? Yes. Is Big time. How do your schools out there? Don't not catty keep a kid from the West Khaki kid from the West Coast going there. So many of from last day, but there's a bunch of. There's a group of this kid was considering Alabama's well. Background I think he's Samoan or Tongan. Humor which one? Yeah which is you know they Miss six, four fifth folder when he was in high, that's what I was just about to hear when I watched him likely is like a eleven highlights and watched him in highschool saw some highlights and you know people talk about the guys that are coming out you go watch him. I looked that's that's a grown man. He was a grown ass man. Yeah. You're looking at this picture. He doesn't look he'd be put his eighteen nineteen years old. He looks like a grown asked me. That's what I'm saying. So you think it my first thought was when he was playing high school football league. Tackle that dude right just I mean just a phenomenal. So. Powerful explosive and supposedly really really gifted football guy I mean not just football I the whole thing and and. He'll well, when Lawrence decided now he's a guy sitting back saying man I love you trevor but could you make sure you're out of here? So I can take over this program and do the things that I wanNA do. But he was a very highly recruited one most highly recruited players in America so and he's a big stud. So we'll see he kind of looks like the Milton Kid from. Michigan how big? Fifty I mean big thick strong powerful guy with a monster arm that that's what he kind of looks like. This far as build so he'll. He'll get his chance but highly recruited guy know you said it Alabama you were thinking about him to you wanted him. Yeah. It was him embrace young that were I didn't know about Brash young yet but those two guys and they're both considering Alabama and as Michael said, they're both from California and it's just these guys want go win in I was hoping we could get the pro-style guys. So the threat guy but I wasn't going to complain with Bryce young either and he looks pretty good so far. But young delays just like monster he's going to be A. Typical pocket passer that's just GonNa Destroy Teams and put at four hundred five hundred yards daily can rip it and I know what you're saying MC's cows SC. Not. Just them but any does. Not Keep that kid on the West Coast Housing, not going to Oregon. Oh I agree but here's the problem. Is it all of a sudden well? We've recruited this kid from modern day and then they got the kid from Saint John Bosco and you get a kid from. Wherever that day Lasalle, high school up in northern California. What else we got the CRESPI high school and you know we you know what I'm saying they're all over the place. There's so many great players head down to Orange County where in a world where Carson Palmer and that Rancho Santa Margarita and like well, why would any of these guys leave? Then the problem becomes well can't. You can't have four of them right? Right. So now but but it's just it's now become commonplace when you left like the pack when you left for instance, if you're getting recruited as a west go back in the day, you know fifteen years ago if you didn't go to see then maybe it was ucla maybe it was Washington right you one of those schools now it's like well, I'm not. Going to see, well, let me roll out Texas. Let me head out to Florida. Let me go to Clemson Alabama you know what I mean yeah. They're going and you mentioned didn't you mentioned the highschool recruit yesterday from Texas lost recruit lost with the twenty twenty, two top I've worked with that kid. Quick. Quinn Yours Yeah. Some now I work with was an eighth grader going in the ninth grade. I duck basketball like thirteen years old. He's I walked off the field of working with him in Dallas. And Talk to his dad had you know? For. A weekend. And I'm like this will be. And I told a few college coaches along the way I said, I. Want you do me a favor and let you take a look at this freshman out in Dallas. toot. was about six three then about six four now and he he is. You Know Dunk a basketball baseball ninety I mean just everything at all. And when you said yesterday kind of blew by me and I know he, he turned he. Backed out of his commeneted University of Texas Yeah. Everybody in the world country wants Watson things are going well with Tom Herman era there he would throw balls like Dole. Whole shots like outside. In the whole like you know ripped shots up in the whole against too deep. And here's this kid like eighth grade, the ninth grade and it'd be like. It sounded different. Like, a whip of arm and he really was still learning how to play right? Got, all these sports on his mind and just say got any just kind of casual and I'm like. This. Is this. I said this kid's different. Yeah, and I'll be damned if he's a twenty, twenty, two kid who? Maybe as one of the top quarterbacks in the country today you know what I'm saying they got big decision I sent his data message last night too. I'm proud of you guys hanging in there I said it I said enjoy this process while the decisions are there enjoy the process of the fact that? Someday he's GonNa look back and say man it was you know right now it's like it's it's unnerving. It's over well yeah and then you look back when you go to college and the rest were, you say that was really pretty cool. Right that everybody courted you and your held to everybody wants you. You'll know when the decisions right but he I'm attached if you ever get a chance go on Hud or whatever see highlights this kid can flat out. Sling it and it seems like we're saying that about some freshmen or or. Greater every single year, but he put it this way. He's one of those guys. Go, one of these guys were talking about that you know when the lead eleven rolls around, he does all this he'll be like, okay. Yeah, that is why and he's not going to you just. What. Well. There's a place out in southern California that I'm quite sure that would. To. Believe now is GonNa go how state when he was doing his recruiting originally I believe it was Texas Ohio state in Alabama and now everyone believes it's Ohio state that's going to get. First crack at them. Let's be honest. He'd be smart to go there over Texas right now because Ohio state's been pumping out quarterbacks. Fields will be gone by then he could start at SC as a freshman year thinking that. He could. He could start Texas a freshman rank. All started Ohio state. Audit. Have just tried to get I've tried to get at least thick west coast for a second your tariffs right there. Hey now hey, look if I had to choose. Southern. California versus Columbus Ohio guess where I'm picky by that time other in. California by that time our young play we might actually be good again. We're like on the national scope again, slow this is a good player and but he was like a three story, but it's a really good player. He's going to be really good. He's actually elevated is play, but this kid just comes in at a different level right? You just a different cat so. Wishes family well and I'll stay in touch with him and I sent the kid a message last night too. So he just kind of humble kid I. Realize you know this is really kind of cool. Well, enjoy it. I would enjoy the process because people telling you how great yard because you walk on campus. A lot of dunes because there's. That's exactly right. Sports Stocks Diety head towards our number two will stick it out in about fifteen minutes. You guys want to chime and we're talking is Tony Larussa good higher. How you feel about that much to discuss as well as Texans well, their bye week. So no game plan to kick in and we got Dr specs picking the week. This hour's well sports talk seven, Ninety, seven o'clock hour next we've got. Bill quarterback. Longtime Sean Salisbury. Since this Sean Salisbury show. Sports Talk Seven Ninety, that's what we are. We're sport socks ninety. You didn't need to be reminded I did you we are. Your home of Astros Baseball. Basketball. Sports talks have an I.. R. Reese Davis Right Post College Game Day and do not only the football side with the basketball side been a guest on our show longtime friend damn good at what he does about. I don't know where do we know where he was were they interviewed him on sportscenter. pilled L. K. with Van Pelt last night. With Scott on Scott Show and so let's roll through these matter of fact, just one after the other there's three cuts on number one clemson's next forty, eight hours. Trevor Lawrence is start next week, which would be Notre Dame South Bend. And Dabbles approach to the other players during this health situation. Here's Reese Davis host to College Game Day with Scott Van Pelt the thing I'm most curious about is for those tests going to look like become back on Friday. Are there other clemson players it will be impacted for the Boston College game which then potentially would impact them for the Notre Dame game the following week that's that's one thing. The other thing is obviously to see their backup quarterback who I presume and likely will be starting Dj Gallegly, who, is a five star guy highly touted but he doesn't have any experience Put Him out there Scott. He's the best player best quarterback in college football generational type guy, and he's played a ton. So I would view it almost like an NFL situation where a guy would get mental rests and probably a ton of zoom meetings and opportunities to study the game plan when she'll know inside out anyway, based on his experience you know there's bound to be if he can't practice at all can't throw there's bound to be you know a little bit of Ross. For something. But if he is nate will play this is just my judgment on it certainly, not maybe not dabble about it. I can't envision a scenario which trip awards is clear to play and he wouldn't start the game. There's no way on earth there's going to be nothing untoward done about this that would in any way shape form or fashion jeopardize trevor's hell or risk anyone else around that's not how dabble operates and frankly Scott I. really don't think it's out any coach operates. Mana reason reese Davis is exactly right. No coach while they WanNa win I wouldn't think with any brain. Is GonNa put his players coaching staff members of the building in harm's way. Liz. Winning now. Now they are I. You know I guess I should say no because there are some guys out there that are so Wacko. That at any cost right but he dabbles not that guy doesn't need to be that Guy they're going to be Boston college regardless. I would I would think and dabbled probably knows that all he said I'll out we can. And Trevor Lawrence will do everything the mental side of getting ready matter of fact, he'll probably do more mental work sitting at home for Notre Dame than he would. If, he was busy with doing everything else you know the the everyday life sitting home quarantine you'll watch extra tape and you'll be all up on the game plan and if he's healthy and cleared, he'll be ready to go. There may be some depending on. How the symptoms are right. I haven't been there and know what it's like that. You know whether it's down the energy level all those things and they'll do everything possible. That's the one thing about being a guy like him is that the program's going to watch and he'll get all the fluids or whatever it is that he needs to get himself for. No question and that's okay. It's a good thing and and so he'll if his energies right I would anticipate if the negative tests pass an meaning if the negative test if he passes those that protocol did he'll be ready to go in south bend now I'm not a doctor nor my dabbled sweeny but I would assume being the fact that we knew this that's around in that ten day range that Friday next week is ten days from his positive test right and. Sometimes honestly. Guys sometimes take a step away. From the physical part refreshes a guy in the middle of season on an honest to God. Well, we see in the NFL the Vikings came in here and won a game Tennessee had missed them that there's that feeling. It's almost like I know the feeling that when you win coach comes in and says, Hey, don't. See you guys on Wednesday. No meetings on Monday, you're off onto see on Wednesday the fellas go crazy right and you come back rejuvenated just an extra day and you're like our coaches school. Now you don't want it to be like this to get a week but sometimes getting fresh legs and you know what they do do on practice you throw and you throw and you throw and throw sometimes the fresh arm a little different imagine you'll come out with a little pop against Notre Dame, as well not that he needs any more than he already has. So. They'll. They'll do the right thing and restaged is exactly right most. Of. These guys are great examples for the kids that coach and understand the health ramifications and the risk factor and dabble will approach it as such and I believe that you know he'll. He'll do the right thing. Yeah they'll do the right. The I'd be shocked if he's not playing for the Notre Dame game two. That gain matter alive if he's if he's not cleared than I would imagine that they don't do but. I would go ahead and guess that he's going to be there and it's for a weekend of college football this week at least make something interesting to look at to go see that team play this the slight this weekend is pretty crappy. There's about four or five pretty good game now and the rest of the schedules hell the season's almost over but this actually makes now I forget it is the season three games looking. Over the gamblers. Or fantasy football guys. We'll have an eye on the Boston College Clemson game for some obvious reason. And if you WANNA get the line get while the getting's good. Absolutely. So And you may depending on which side or your weight if you're. A clemson guy who's GonNa vote that way Not The player but somebody, WHO's watching that? Not that anybody gambles very much just all in fun. Of Corn monopoly money it's for Diet Coke So. Who has who do we got some sound on about SEC protocols heather didn't choose been a longtime ACC. Covering the ACC for a long time right. How many? How many years she's been there. Since probably at least. Fifteen or so far more than decade, right? So Heather has. The Protocols. And also on on the Notre Dame game and availability not injury. Let's hear what Heather had. Say Char Lines went into isolation starting on Thursday when he got the result of the test, he does not live with any other teammates. So clemson has told ESPN that contact tracing at this point as far as they know, shouldn't be a problem remember Clemson also tests on. Friday so. We know more later today about the scope of this but then in order to return it CDC guidelines at least ten days of isolation. But then much like in the big ten Trevor Lawrence has to go through cardiac screening to make sure everything is okay there, and then he has to be river fever free symptom free for at least twenty four hours before he can return. Director Bill Hancock last night while he declined to speculate about any hypotheticals, he did say that the selection committee considers availability of players in games and if you look at the protocol which hasn't changed since the inception of the playoff, it does talk about when comparing similar teams. Injuries to players are factor and handcuffed. told me. It shouldn't be injuries that should be availability. Even, if clemson loses that game with or without Trevor Lawrence, they could still potentially redeem themselves if Clemson and Notre Dame play each other again in the ACC championship and look if those two teams split, we could be talking about both of them in the semifinals come December twenty eighth. That's very possibility. Yeah. Now I know we say this a lot about Notre Dame at this time, and then somewhere along the line they. Over. Screwed up whether it's yeah but this could be. Really good football team. He got to the playoff one. Yeah. They lost to not the playoff but to the championship game that was the last time had been one of the big ones I believe them. And they got smoked threat they haven't been to the playoffs. Last year. As a bad championship game got hammered. Yeah. They got. It was done it like halftime was that McCarron's year one of. Trying to Karen that. It's been it's been a bit but Notre Dame's. Program here Brian Kelly is good football coach. They'll be ready and I can assure you Brian Cloudy. Notre Dame plays this week but I promise you. He's not talking about next week but deep in his mind he's expecting Trevor Lawrence too polite. Yeah. The only way you can they play Georgia tech this week, which we saw Clemson hang fifty plus on them in the first half. Kagins. Yeah. I. Think this will put it this way with thirty one point favorite that Clemson is over thirty one and a half points over Boston college both of them were coming into south southbound next week undefeated. Now for gamblers and point spreads that's up to you to figure out but as far as lens go and when we waltz into South Bend next week both these teams be undefeated and Clemson will still be number one and Notre Dame will be what are they four? Four four then they won't be moving off that mark. It'll be one verse four next week in South Bend, Sports Talk Seven Ninety shot South Ratio Mc's here. With me in our Guy Josh See. IT IS A. Sports Talk Ninety Rolling along we'll stick it out next. Let the celebrations start more sean sounds very on sports talk seven hundred. Sean. Now the sells very stakeout some. On on the Sean sounds ratio. What I'M Here is we're playing the stakeout. That's right. What you got. The Detroit Tigers mentioned they are on the verge of hiring AJ hinch to be there next manager after his suspension ended after the world series ended my question for you on the hinch hiring their Detroit is. When will he get them back into the postseason? They've not been there since two thousand fourteen not had a winning season since twenty sixteen. How long? Do you think it takes Aj hinch to get them. Back to a winning record this past year they went twenty three and thirty five in the sixty game season the year before that they went forty seven in one fourteen. All right he's going to get along leash. Okay. Not only. Yeah. I now. So he's hitching closer to a contract, right? God Yes. All right He's hinges away. Aj. Stay away from baseball to stay away I don't need to Hinch is. Twenty two, they win more than eighty two games. Next after this next, if they play baseball yeah. If there's not A. Right. So they will say, Max. Three. Years Realistic two years. For me. I think you're probably right. They've got some young prospects. And I think he'll and they've had the ability you WanNa talk about. Out They not they've spent in the past two. In George Springer, could land there. He wouldn't wanNA land there but they've gone big on players. Oh. Yeah. We like we said, money can change a lot of things man yeah. You can wait and try to hundred and seventy-five million bucks. Yeah. Well, if off season somewhere else you don't think AJ would go in there and pined for that. Yeah. What what a what a great way to start off leading off your games with George Springer Atlanta George Dongo. So I'm GonNa say twenty, twenty, two, they have a winning record. Latest while say twenty twenty latest twenty, twenty, three close in twenty maybe right around five hundred. Little under. But by the time he's into his third year they'll be optimism in spring training. It'll be optimism now when he science because Aj hinch but those prospects start to rear their head. low eighties by two, thousand, twenty, three. Make Sense. Yeah. I mentioned it earlier. I'm surprised AJ would actually go to Detroit I know it's probably the only job offer. He really has a chance to get right now but I think if he just waits a year even maybe later in the off season. That opens up that's to win now I thought about it too. and. Then I thought about this aspect of it. He sits he sits out he still has to wait another year to get a job this time guaranteed to come. And get a feel that. A lot of people aren't right jumping on this because of the bad pr. I mean the good jobs typically don't come open that's so he goes and takes this Detroit job. He deals with the media storm now, which isn't a typical media star has also been calls. He does it again, Spring Training, and then once we get playing baseball again, nobody's going to talk about him because he's managing the Detroit Tigers Right Stink and here's the deal. Remember how big a hero he was sixty game seat going from Sixty Game Seasons Division winner sixty win seasons. Now HE TURNS THEM INTO A. He's a hero. because. He again, he's going to have a leash. He's GonNa get along deal. That's right. He's going to get a long leash to turn this thing around like he's got he's got a great job scared look. I wouldn't want to live in the city of Detroit but I got news for you when they're winning good baseball. Yeah it really is so I don't think it's As crazy as I initially thought, it wasn't taking edge. Now if I was still I wouldn't take it. I would I would wait for different job, but it'd be WANNA get back in. You don't want you won't want to hold onto this thing make it last longer I get it I do too and plus when you're out of something guys out of any job you. Get better you end somebody presents you opportunity to give with one of the. With with eighteen running the show and having a long leash getting paid. More poorly, than the money right now for AJ, he gets a chance to get back and do what he loves to do. It's hard to replace those competitive juices again and getting rolling I get it now valid tramline sweet Lou, whitaker can just come back and get the short porch in right field again now, maybe Miguel Cabrera will hidden. because. He's only under contract like another four years. Here's what they do. Go Out and get go out and get go Cabrera actually lead them at home runs this year go out and then and bring in. Mar Martinez JD signed bachelor. It could bring back Got All, right? Miguel Cabrera's under contract for a guaranteed one two three more seasons at thirty, thirty, two and thirty, two, million through the age of forty and then he has vesting options which won't hit but he could potentially be under contract for another five years. Mickey. The last three seasons or something with Miguel. Cabrera. Has Been A to fifty hitter to eighty two with twelve home runs. To nine with three home runs to forty nine with sixteen home runs, he's not good anymore they're paying thirty million bucks a year Mickey. From Maggie Maggie Cabrera great great name though isn't it? He was on key Cabrera longtime. Love it. I agree maybe he finds something as back this year he's thirteen home runs away from five hundred and. Career about one hundred, forty hits from three thousand eight triple crown winner at one point. Crown. Two. Batting titles pretty good. That's a that's a hall of fame. Wait to happen from Gal Cabrera With that and macgyver lost my train of thought Was it about Aj Hinch? Detroit. Miguel Cabrera Berlinger JD, Martinez Oh by the way Pozas waived. So they're going to be fine looking for a new closer. Yeah. Ever in that was inevitable right? There's no way they're gonNA pay him ten million bucks to maybe that was a formality. Not, having he hasn't had Tommy John to be honest with you get a second opinion that said he didn't. But that's why you can't risk that. He continued to put it off. You continue to delay your return. Yeah. So yeah. So I think Aj Hinch my twenty, twenty three and yeah. Cabrera's getting paid a lot of money for. Old School. Production. He. This is a lifetime achievement award production but hey, he got to get was good negotiated. It can't blame him. Don't hate him for it. Mickey Cabrera Great Apple Hitter to Right Center. Greater. All right when she got for me Josh you mentioned earlier about when you visit Notre Dame before that issue something different. You just don't can't even describe how you feel when you're there fact if you're a recruit coming out of high school right now and you couldn't go to USC. What do you think your dream school would be or at least? Where would you go and visit? That's what I six two. So I had six visits, right? My visits if I was coming out now. would be to Notre Dame I would still go back and visit one just because of history. I know what? I'm going to get their good academics and you're playing great teams all the time. And know that I mean just the feeling of. Being Notre Dame and I, love my occur tip then I'd still love it. Now I've got to take a trip to Lsu. Trip to Alabama. I take a trip to Clemson I. Then Do Civil Sean we recruited don't mean an era I was I was. The number one recruit in the country that position the country coming out. So I would have I'm assuming I would have a recruited by where you WANNA go right I would I would go to I would take a trip to the University of Texas Because that's one of the great positions Texas quarterback and I would go and I can't go to. USC. Stanford Oregon Probably Stanford. Just. Because of I've always said that and I you know I took a trip to cal had one to Stanford decided I was gonNA cancel it because I wasn't going there elway was there and I thought well two years but I wanted to play sooner and I wasn't gonNA play in quarterbacks weren't leaving early days they played all four years, right? Yeah. So I but I'd Stanford would be the PAC twelve school that I would visit the best academic school that you're going to get out there on the West play good football and I love David Shaw so knowing what I know about David Shaw now and then so yes, Stanford. Notre Dame. Lsu. Clemson Alabama. and. Would I miss Texas and Texas that would that would be and I? I would I now you're I'd probably take a couple unofficial wants to pay on my own. You know if there's a certain. I would have a hard time knowing their offense and how well they are not taking one to Ohio state. The big boys, but the first six that come to mind and the Ohio state I mean, how do you know Michigan the big house see if I was going to the big ten to be one of those two right? I would I would have to consider taking a visit to Ohio state. Over Stanford Better, I get it but I still the Stanford thing would loom large because of the mix of academics, David Shaw, and they played better football they're no longer a bye week Stamford's good program. So my last one would be them or how state how state would be intriguing because it's the Buckeyes and they win but I would probably say Stanford right now but I would and there may be a change maybe I'd go instead at Clemson, go to Ohio state or but. I'm assuming today you asked me no six came to mind pretty quickly though that that would be it. I would go to Harvard and I would probably come down to Texas and oral how state maybe as the other one that I'd want to go to Texas, because it was the first school that showed up on my campus. Texas when I was in high school yes the football sure when I was in high school, the first coach I ever met was Mack Brown. There you go. They won the title he was there like two weeks later. I remember Mike My high school football coach who was the defensive coordinator on my team to handle a lot of the recruiting came up to me and I was a sophomore and he said, well, you got your first because I had been the had had basketball people come in baseball cucumber I never had a football because it wasn't playing varsity football. It's freshman we had. We had like an Adidas, all American and his dad was athletic. WHO's a hell of a player? As our quarterback so and and. One of my best friends like man I. I couldn't beat him out when I was a freshman, right? So. I Guess Sophomore Years, and my coach comes up to me and I really. I never played Pop Warner football to play tug at the High School Saas kind of it was kind of wrong. Yeah. Basketball Baseball where my sports and he said, well, you got your first one and that's what he said to me Jeff Carlisle. So what do you mean I I one? We're getting ready for Spring Ball, and he says. University of Texas here today I'm like. Okay south pretty cool. I. To, watch for spring for all this shit exactly coach over my head, the coach then had to be. Dang nineteen. Their royals? Was, coach, royal the he wasn't the head coach that was there. I don't remember who the assistant was while you're wasn't there was there that had to be what seventy nine. Eighty seventy nine somewhere in there. He was caught. In between coach. Royal. Coach royals, your I'm pulling it up. Let's see. Seventy nine for the Texas longhorns would had been. There you go that. Thank you coach acres but he wasn't on campus who was an assistant coach and it was my first coach that showed up to a practice spring ball who is pretty cool. So there you go. Pretty Damn awesome unless he was lying to me but I don't think he was because he knew I was a college coach never lost while yeah. No the high school coach, my high school gate coaches just never lined general ever ever especially when it comes to recruiting never have but it was pretty cool. So yeah, I would have those. That's good. FRASCA now. If I've thought about that often if I couldn't go to SC, where would I go stance would probably be the only PAC twelve school outta visited, and so I mean some of those teams have changed or were good back then and then there's some teams that weren't even on the map. Then right if you went back to my feelings now to the way, I look at the PAC twelve, the field, my back in the how they were then to my feelings now, University of Washington was a program 'cause I actually was going to take a visit there but I cancelled it because it was PAC twelve and. I knew I coach Don James here. So if you told me, that was still that Washington team but my feelings now I would probably mix them into cause the man, the campus, the Histamine, the tradition, the crowd as well. It's like, Seattle seahawks are the brutally loud. So if I knew then but I, The Washington program now that coach Peter, they're still trying to get themselves back, right? Yeah. That's and it's great quarterback program so I would have considered it but I'm good with the five I gave you outside of the pack twelve in Stanford. Now, that would have been my six sports talk seven hundred rolled along. And Sean Salisbury Show, and heading towards our number to. The end of it here next thirty minutes, we'll get you guys involved seven, one, three, two, one, two, five, seven, eight, John Clayton, nine thirty. Tony Larussa seventy six years old Adam Sega if you're listening call in matter of fact, we need him to call in so we can just dog him. Over the fact that Aj hinch well is going to Detroit sports talk seven. Ninety. This Charles Barkley you guys thought, I put on some weight since my playing days usually Sean. Solos. Borough Arbel. Now back to the SEAN, Searle? Bora show. Knuckle. sportstalk seven ninety. Trevor Lawrence. Positive. For covert out. Tony Larussa seventy, six, hundred, seventy, six years old the manager. Of the Chicago White Sox and. You were not real sure if this is gonNA work out but apparently is Jeff Pass said it's a makeup call from. which is thirty four years ago and eighty six when he left Tony Larussa goat that's Jerry Reinsdorf. And now seventy six believes he's the best man for this team. If there's one less team, if it's going to implode them a little bit and there's one less team, it's a contender in the American league. The Astros deal with next year come down with it sign me up. Let's go Tony Larussa going there and screw things up because I felt that team was going to create issues for everybody and that includes the astros they got to the postseason some point I would not want to face them. So over there's a lot of infighting and they don't even get there. That's my hope. That's your hope. The wrong. I'd rather teams implode make make I'm not I have no issue with life being easier. For the team I love which is the Houston Astros and I need to see them get back to where they're going. So you're right now or hating on Eurocare either do no don't do right now. What the team is going to do in terms of. Bullpen because we were brought up the Zuma's out which we all knew it was going to happen. Jephson's me yesterday and I think it's an interesting thing to watch the. The Indians the same thing yesterday to Brad hand. You know there's going to be arms available. They've better beef up there. They'd better beef up as much as they can keep an outfielder and talk about an American League West West champion next year, they could take down the team like tone of the white sox from thinking to the postseason. I'm good dare no day would also be a good choice that got waived yesterday. Yeah. submariner Darren O'Day. Right, he's still coming down. He's still throwing underhand. Hey. I think the part of the you know like Brad hand thing, and this is what I think people were needed to prepare for in the baseball winter. You know the guys getting placed on outright waivers before they even had to do the tendering of contracts. This is early for this to happen if these teams they want to keep these guys, they would have waited a little bit longer teams are hurting for money badly. In the market is going to suffer tremendously like their. George Springer is going to get paid, but he's not getting anywhere near where he wanted Michael Brantley is actually going to be. About the same dollar amount may be cheaper than he was in the past like guys are going to get crushed as free agents it's going to be bad and teams are GonNa be more guys available in US thing because teams have to get rid of money. Look at the world series ratings that doesn't make you feel better than it's been this money does not help. So it's unfortunate message in an unfortunate year. Speaking at closers Liam Hendriks is going to be available call me right both of her free agents Astros need closer. And get one. And depending what you're going to. You know what you we'll see if they can spend. Right. I mean talk about Astra Yeah, I mean they might not feel comfortable like everybody else in spending and they also made just use somebody in house. We've seen that before in. Addis. Wrap it up. Let's go got one hundred back there at the SEC does anymore and he can keep it at one hundred because he doesn't have to pitch much. If he's back there, give me A. Three out guy four out. Guy. Probably Say, yeah, and so the ramp it up Gimme give me A. Twenty pitches. Let's keep moving. It's going to be a and you could bus it it a c note you're usually near the back in is opposed to if you're not starting right back there unless you got now well, you know what started fair to say Nowadays Hell Ninety Eight, ninety, nine, arms all over the I mean ninety, four and fifth any one hundred well pitch. That's exactly right. If you're not throwing ninety six, you're probably not getting the majors unless you were. grandfathered in like is that greenkeeper new May and if you're throwing ninety, five, ninety, six here on the low side of these high school, the high school kids coming out right and what are you throw your sixteen? Yeah. Rampant about ninety nine you could throw it. Breezy. Slow it'd be like Christian Havi air throw ninety three, but is deceptive win. It has that run on it. Catches up on those guys and then that's the truth is when Havi here's the different cat yes. When you throw it, he reached back and get ninety six. But if you can throw ninety three and be that deceptive, don't need to know they don't need to extend the arm and that may be time we got to wrap it up a little bit but You're exactly right. The the art of deception is Biz and you don't want it's heavy and it gets on you quick like his does it feels different than ninety-three because ninety three's commonplace for these guys these days. I don't care if you thought one hundred and five if it doesn't move, you got no deception. They're gonNA hit it and they're gonNA hit a long way to. So we'll see if the astros have to go out and find a closer if they can afford to find a closer or if they stay in house going to be this is for a lot of different reasons going to be a crazy hot stove league. Off Season Right it's. Concerned. About you. It's GonNa. Be Crazy because we don't know what they're. GonNa pay. How much movement you're going to have if teams are going to say. It's such an odd year. We're not really going to be that active. We're going to stay away from it or the ones that say well, everybody else isn't being acted like you mentioned Detroit got money will spend. Let's go get somebody. We've got a manager here while everybody else is sleeping on it a little bit. Let's get our teams that are guaranteed to suck won't spend because look at the get back into ballparks next year. Now they'll make no revenue fans show up to their stadiums. My concern about like the Red Sox even though they normally spend. Yeah. Is because of this and they furloughed employees and stuff there that no one they're not going to be very good because they can't fix that pitching staff in in a year like this to go into next year nor they're not going to be very good. They're not going to do anything I. Don't not that which concerns me that Springer's going to leave here I'd love to go there which concerns me. So you just let let's go for now. It's bigger price and springer's GONNA make. But are you going to reinvest a lot one hundred and seventy million bucks into a? Guy That's close right right and which tells me the chances when I had Boston at the front runner I'm not sure they are right now. Win in Boston I think this is a market that's going to benefit the contenders more than anybody else because last. Guys Yeah. They're gonNA, find a lot of players that are going to be having to take a one year deal way less and they're just going to go join a big boy. and. The Astros could be sitting there with Brantley. Ready to come back for a year and somebody else. That's you know in a bunch of relievers like well, this team's good. I'm not getting great offers I can get. One good year with one good team here, and then hopefully it resets and and then also being a lineup with a bunch of hitters where you can hit you put up numbers. Yeah. Team wins on a one year deal and guess what then you back and still there's time to go get another pretty decent size contract. Yeah. Yeah. It's not if you're willing to bet on yourself, I think I think a lot of guys are going to be forced into that. They want it's either be forced into one year decent size contract. Go put your number's up on a good team win and get paid the next time or Google. Set a four five year deal but guess what it's going to be a lot less than you wanted. Yeah. So if you're going to bet on yourself for you want the security even though in those three years, you may play like a monster and we're redoing your. Contract and a five year deal three years into good luck with that. Yeah exactly. So be interesting to to see how they feel like there's going to be a lot of those Kimbrel Kaikal type situations where they're going to either go into the season without a deal or right up to the season before they actually signed with the team and then they're like, all right I got nothing else I'll sign away your worry somebody signed him. Cancer starting and everything. I think it has a lot of potential to it. I do and and there's GonNa be some teams that are going to get some really good one year players that are worthy. The big contract and Springer may very well of Bradley be two of them. Whether it's here's your springer played on a one year deal next year. That's all you know about them. If it happens, that means the market's terrible screwed as it gets. Well, he's the he's the best free agent out. So he was. The market I don't know if said it's the right word it may already be set but. We'll go no real quick. With springs money if it happens quick were the rest of the fellows are going to be slotted right? It's going to be either really ugly or surprisingly good. I. Have a hunch that surprising good won't be the answer we come up with when all said and done. Yeah. In Two thousand, twenty head into twenty twenty, one I- business on his you struggling. With how you're going to recover and move forward crazy right. Insperity is ready to help you develop a plan one that focuses on your organization. It's a people strategy that Supports Your Business Strategy. So what if the HR strategy that human resources strategy included employees access to better benefits to keep the employees you have in effect new ones when the time is right or it helps you make sense of the new legislation coming out of Washington that infects employers insperity was built for times. 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Ninety just a couple of minutes. We'll roll indoor specs picking drink of the we. who we have lasted. Oh. Good God. I have to pull that up right now the while we're looking for that I. Moved a lot I'm having the worst year ever had picking games. So k. k. what stay the course now don't stay the course change it up a little bit. With. You stayed away from Florida state which a wise move but your pick didn't work last week either did it I knew I knew I. Find It yeah. I can't remember what pick last week actually. I can't either I know the week before I failed miserably again, talking about it'll be contracts to and WHO's going to get paid, and this is a crazy crazy year. The market doesn't seem like it's going to. Closer to more on the bottom than it is on the top let's just put it that way. Let's get Jason. Jason Welcome in Miami doing. Good. How are you guys? Great. Ice So. I'm ran Lau with what you're what you guys have been saying earlier I'm I'm thinking I mean, hell I'm James Clinic I mean why not offer springer a two year deal and maybe you know one years obviously you know a guaranteed one at second one maybe like a player and a club option two years fifty, five, million, he's still getting paid. You can still get back to free agency and his and and obviously the same thing with with Michael Brantley. Less money even though that guy's been I mean just a professional hitter. Since he's been here. He stayed healthy you know every year but you give these guys and other opportunity to get back to the free agency and you know make a to get another big contract. You know after post pandemic year and it it's weird to me but I feel like these guys is it's almost like it's not a package deal with the relationship these guys built like maybe they wanna play together somewhere else and why not do it here because you have just as good as chance if not the best. In the Al.. To win you know now then then you would anywhere else. Jason I think that makes a lot of sense. Do you think two years at the main or is I just don't think you can get George silent you. Get a signed deal has an opt out after a year but. I think on paper have to be like a four year ninety million dollars just. Lucky optics of it. To make sense of what we can say about. Now you're you're thinking that you know maybe actually longer the other keeping her long term would be would make more sense. You can make make that offer, but the has the opt out after a season. Can Go back out and hit the market make even more money than sure Jason I think that it's a bonus. Stays I don't think I think they'll make a courtesy offer to George and he's moving on a George wants to move on. That's my personal belief i. I'm resigned to the fact Jason that George Springer, plan somewhere else next year and You, both just answer my question. Then because the way it seems, he just didn't seem like he I don't WanNa say he doesn't want to be here but it just seems like maybe a lot of stuff stand craft that that we're all you know we're all disgusted with the way they portrayed us is i. it's just got to him. It seems like. Jason we're at the point now like we say what sounds good to us I think they would have to make George Springer a monster offer to change his mind about leaving I. Don't think one that's like, Hey, it's an covert I. Don't think. I don't think that would that would matter I think it would be like a blow him away offer to bring him back. That's all resigned. I think he is leaving. And you're right and I and. It may be an astro fan for the last thirty, seven years I. Think George Walking or is probably going to be the the biggest. It'd be the biggest heartbreak for me just in in in. It's too 'cause my kids love him. So I mean I brought them through the ranks also and I. Think. It's it's it's tough but it seems like we've all of tried to prepare for the inevitable. Thanks Jason I'm with you man he's. My favorite player in this city? I can't imagine me being you know look through the Bagwell busier I can't imagine one of those guys picking up leaving as a kid and how devastating that would be this is going to be devastating participation in baseball it's going to suck. We got time a Nick Sam and Corey Sam you're up next I'M GONNA. Get you but I want you guys to hold because we've got a lot of Texans Springer talk and we gotta get our specs pick of the weekend but Sam we got about thirty. What's on your mind? This real quick inside I won't take long. Live in the neighborhood as. George and Brantley for that matter. Just I don't know how telling it is, but if it means anything. Springer's home is apparently already up for sale. Yeah. I've heard that as well hey sam. It has to be telling, right. That can't be coincidental in a I. Understand that people sell houses now because the interest rates are so good but I think it'd be a little coincidental free agent. The market what happened and I think that's probably a I don't want to say great indication Sam but I think it's a fairly good indication that. The. George isn't buying one down the street. How's that? No I I agree completely with you at were. You know I don't know myself personally but I've got friends that are neighbors with them and they pulled me things that. All indicators are pointing that he's He's pretty much got both feet out the door. He's just looking for the next landing spot. There you go. Sam Great insight appreciate it, and I think that's the. I think that's probably the overwhelming favourite Yup sets happen. GonNa take a lot of upset money to bring George back I don't think it's going to happen they're. They're not making that offer because realistically standpoint the it's not smart decision right and I it bums me out because like I said he is by here's my favorite player here. Yeah. Has Been for for a while alright MC pick of the week. Our specs link. Feel good with some some drinks day go specs online dot com I found are picks from last week by the way to how'd you do I had I. Had Penn State. They weren't good. Yeah with the. Experts Tech State covered. Got It. Okay. So I'll take that one. Byu, came up last week in the Zach Wilson's climate up boards when it comes to be in a high draft, right our specs online dot com, go into specs to get all your snacks, your meats, cheeses, all the booze you want cigars it's got. I. Mean it is fantastic. You guys been there. I'm not telling you. 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I'm going to stay in the college game and I'm GonNa take a line that's lower again because I've had some I've had some bad six not had success with the higher lines. I don't know how this one is this low it's at home for Cincinnati. We're talking about that and the other day they'd been awesome. They're only a six and a half point favorite over Memphis at home I am taken the bearcats to cover that six and a half with E. Sweet Cincy is the final four potential. There are a couple of analysts maybe it was pat McAfee at the beginning season pick them in the final four, the playoff L. Right now crazy thought the number seven physicals doing a great excuse me doing a great job coaching that team right you got that one I like that I'm going to jump on the most popular talk of the week. Even on stop popular because it Trevor Lawrence. But that's made it popular 'cause Lawrence's and plan pay their backup quarterback who's highly recruited kid is a good player. got a little bit of experience not a lot Lawrence's out. We're looking ahead to Notre Dame. They're worried about a lot and they'll be focused because without the quarterback dealt dial in. Boston colleges form two they're not bad. Yeah. Now they are going to Clemson. So it's I in death valley is not exactly the place to play, but that line's gone from thirty one and a half to some places twenty three and a half to someplace is twenty four up to twenty eight. But Vegas says for the most part, it's right around twenty, seven, twenty, eight. So I'M GONNA. Take it at Plus Twenty eight Boston College Boston College is going to make this about twenty three point loss, but they're going to stay in that number. They'll play enough and you're gonNA miss some of the explosive plays trevor. Lawrence I'm Takin, Boston College at plus. Twenty smart. 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They've done some good things tonsils GonNa Nice job of protecting his quarterback. He didn't give up. It's been a lot of back path since tonsils given up a sack Jj's played solid. He has been their defensive player of the year. I. Obviously Watson is well, Watson. Plays Right. He always does. So that's been a strike. The problem is saying this last night in San Francisco and show. That I actually believe. When you look around the league good teams. And good quarterbacks. Right. That have our team with a great quarterback. Let's put it that way and I'm GONNA get to you Steve. Dave. In Nick here in just a second when you get when you look at teams with great quarterbacks because they were talking about matchups this weekend. and. Wilson the discrepancy between greatness and I know this is weird to say, but Seattle's defense. It's for a great quarterback on a really good team. Yeah. The discrepancy between how good russes and how bad their defense is enormous I. It's for a good through will ben Lamar a keiler. Even. If San Francisco is one of those teams walking bay kind of like watching Oklahoma Football Tampa Bay right. I mean New Orleans you start to look at all. Tennessee. The colts the discrepancy between on good teams, the quarterback and the defense. The rest of them if the quarterback doesn't play, Tampa can still turn you over play hood and the saints of proven they could do it if drew's not having bet right. So Russell Wilson the the responsible he bears if he does not play. Great, they can't win. Three picks last weekend and they ended up losing exactly and he does. Say. He's still pretty damn good to those three pig right and it cost him and they can overcome it in the past Seattle's defense would turn them over and get a few stops and you still would have won the game right? And then here. The team's not good. But the next biggest discrepancy between how your quarterback plays. And how your defense place is. Enormous even worse than Russes problem is. The whole thing shown because we're one, six there what five and one. So that's those are the two biggest. And so you can't now people say what about I'm not just talking about the defense I'm talking about the quarterback with back out the the quarterback didn't play very well now Dan Dalton and. The defense sucks. So Russell Wilson on a good team. Think about we know that our guy here's got a burden to bear every week to carry a team right RIA and they don't win. Rose has got that man we got a chance at a super bowl I mean people talk. Oh my gosh and now you gotTa Stop The forty nine team with kittle and the rest of it and Jamal Adams Morgan likely isn't playing if it's going to be difficult. But here with with Shawn Watson who is the team MVP make make no mistake about it and he's playing like it throwing the football but even through his greatness. Everything being individuals are playing Jj Tonsil, but through his great, we'll fuller's having a good season. That he can overcome it, he can't overthrowing for three hundred yards a week. Doesn't matter let's get to Steve Steve, what's up Steve Davis Things Steve, day Steve Day. Why is that explain that one and you want me to? Steve, Dave Yeah. It's all one word at the family name. Is it really? So it's Steve Day Really. So it's spelled just like Stephen Dave and it's all one word. Yes I. Love it man that's that's a that's. That's the first I've ever heard of it but I like it. All right, Steve Dave what's up Realistically what if we gave you if we offered Watson and what and Fairbairn at a trade 'cause we get the homes and return Steve Dave. Not, even in your family with that family name, you're not going to get that. You said what? He said Watson Watt and Fairbairn. What are we? What else would we grow in the whole team g stadium all your most of the franchise and you wouldn't get mahomes I first of all Kansas City and I'm just telling you the truth if you called Kansas City and said, we'll give you a watt and Watson. We'll throw in Fairburn and we'd like Mahomes they would they would probably smirk and say April's not till April first isn't until next twenty, twenty, one not. What if we grew? Toro. I don't think it's going to work now Steve Dave Dave Steve Steve Dave Desert. Steve doesn't he call often and give these crazy scenario. Steve You call never? You called before. Yeah under a different name and I got news for you Steve Days not as family name I can assure you that's not a fan of the hell the name Yeah I've heard I, think he changes his voice when he calls because I've heard him he's one call in and give some crazy scenario or say something like that trade this Israel's own Astros in I. Think she said Toro's name more than once he has dumb ass calls is what you're saying well, maybe that's okay. That's okay. So stuff that he knows he's that guy that drive down the street says I'm. GonNa. Just kind of I'll give a different name. Yeah and I'll throw up some crazy scenario that I know that they're going to just because he wants to hear himself talk on the radio. But that's okay. I know Steve Dave which I know is not his name member Dave Steeb never that pitcher. Dave still this is Steve Steve Day v B. But right when he started the economy fairbairn for Patrick Mahomes, three shoes his creativeness. Trying to make a deal happen here. That's why I kept about the. Funny through Abraham Toro in there or did he throw the masks? were. Abraham tomorrow to kidding. But what Abraham as torn? beat. Kidding. So. I always have to ask us what's the name of the mascot again, right. Now I know that it's Toro but I can throw in Abraham twirl with that. Make a difference in the deal. Toro and Abraham Toro. But he's I think he's thrown Steve Davis is mentioned Turrell before and a trade as the I think. So okay. Now you may say it wasn't him but maybe but you're not for Toro Fairbairn Watt Watson. They're. Still not getting laughing at you. Yes. They are Steve Steve. Dave. I. Like I like the what's the word I'm looking for you set creativity. Yeah. It's nice thought. It's good to start. He's been a specs yesterday. Doing. Say Quick Question on on the Texans coach search I like did they ever like consider hiring like as a consultant for two months? You know like Jimmy Johnson or you know the the the GM equivalent of Jimmy Johnson to get this thing going again and how much? Say the Jackie can be have I. I. Don't know why you still in the building. I was curious. What do you do when you're starting? Starting from scratch and burn down how do you? How do you make that first decision? Thank you for the call. Did that back in the with Dan rea here's what I remember. When I said I would talk with their hiring Korn Ferry, which is a consulting firm to choose that GM who's GonNa choose the coach. So they're using that firm to find the guy. I'll tell you who's good Jack Easterby. What kind of power does he have? He's got right today. Allow of counter here he is making the decisions whether we like it or not day. Once the GM gets here and we're hoping that Jack is the right hand man for cow hoping we've probably gonna be that the GM's going to have more power than Jack when it comes to football choices right I would hope assume that that's the case. I said all along I. Don't care whether it was. Tony Dungy or somebody like that. Whatever name it is you like and you mentioned Jimmy Johnson who I've said if the cowboys would not have gotten rid of Jimmy Johnson, they'd already have another Super Bowl I. Personally, no, I understand consulting firms and all that. I would love to have a guy in say here we'll pay half a million bucks for for two months. Go the draft. Dmitrov to help, right. Gummy, he knows what he knows current guys that are spying. Miss Somebody's had some success in the league. Yes. hyperion PAM say Thomas for the next four months pay half a million bucks come on in here pretty much. Let's get free agency. Help us out. Do some due diligence would you do hear what shouldn't you have done here? Yes. I would completely do it. You'RE GONNA pay consulting firm I got news for more. Yeah more net. You got the money and order to build the most important hire your career as ever franchises ever had and say draft pick. In decision making it'll be the GM because then you'll be responsible for the next most important higher, which is this coach for this franchise with Watson here in his prime. So that guy yes as long as you can put egos aside, bring a guy hit here and say Thomas Dmitrov for whoever or our guy attended John Dorsey somebody somebody has it right that says now don't do that I tried that that doesn't work. Yes. That have good football guy no, don't do that. Yes. Here's the GM he'll turn it over to him and here's the coach he should hire because it fits with this system do all that and if you still want to use the consulting firm and they match wits. Great and then. I always say this. Put the pros and cons on paper. Give me your recommendation and let a good man make a decision for you. Right whoever whoever you deemed that is I know I would but I just for me, it's a great point by our caller that has to. Be Done. They're not gonNA do that though they're not going to let east to be in the guy's house they're gonNA, they're gonNA go through corn Mary's Korn Ferry Code I say Korn Ferry Korn ferry suggestion and they're gonNa hire GM and then they're going to deal with free agency and they're going to deal with the draft and they're gonNa, do this and that's what it's going to work now. There's no reason to have faith that this is going to be the process that is proper to get the historical. Korn ferry's hiring your GM, not Jimmy Johnson, and four. Eastern retiring GM with with Korn Ferry. Suggestion suggested what based off what he wants. Korn. Ferry says something that Jack Easterby does not like. Court very is going to get paid for a second place finish. It'd be hilarious if they go and hire Korn ferry and then after all these years of chasing it, they somehow still find a way to get nick area. That it leads to him. Yeah. I mean like if if they could somehow work it out with New England and let him out and he comes here and it's just like, okay why did you spend the money on Korn Fair and then Jack? Why didn't you do all this and then longtime ago Josh mcdaniels will become I'm new. England it's done with New England I gotta ask the question about that. So I think Houston on a show the about a week and a half ago Houston's done with the New England patriots people less Bella checks the one coming sports talk seven nine that didn't sound right I met showing up to house. 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He's gotten a five year extension as a Max value of one hundred, twelve, point eight, almost point nine, million He will earn forty, seven, million by. March thirty first between twenty one, he has a total guarantee of seventy point, eight, six, six, million. They think about the average is about half a million more per year you know it's awesome. Is Now we talk. About tackles, chew him like that. They talk about quick matter of fact, he's the highest paid quarterback in the history of the game. Pre think about this pre what let's just say pre two thousand for the. Health. De. Realize that salary right. There would have made him the highest paid yearly salary quarterback in League back elway and Jim Kelly and Marino they wouldn't have sniff that how about that between? Sept it's basically the such a twin September thirteenth into through March thirty first of twenty I guess that includes this year salary. He's going to make forty, seven, million dollars. You imagine that in less than a year or six months or whatever. Basically making forty seven million dollars member we saw Steve Young's contract at the USFL. La Express was like forty, five million before we went to Tampa who drafted him and then on his way to San. Francisco. He was like, oh. My Gosh Stories about that Gary Zimmerman my office tackle Steve Were Teammates Express. He said it's sometimes he'd go in there and there's a story. It's not a secret that he'd go in there and open up the drawer and there'd be checks cashed. Now I know stop noticeable. I'm getting my cat my check guess what I'm doing with all of them. They're going street right. Bank well Steve. Steve is one of those guys that money's really never been a driving thing for yeah and he was just he just I've known him forever just Kinda nonchalant not nonchalant retakes for granted. Yeah. A little. What would I call loof? Yeah. Big Time when it comes it's like Oh. Yeah that's right. To the bank he was we'd be playing basketball and Byu's campus just all the time in the off season and competitive as hell, but I can see oh, that's right. I gotta three million dollar checks in there but gary say. They were on. Direct positive back, and then they were just get checks on the company I'm probably preyed. Dude, cash the check put it in the account. Yes. We're waiting on you to do that. So we can do other things that are money great story it's like. What are you doing? Go do sign it over to me endorsed. Yeah. Thing. So yes, Stanley gets paid, but it's just fascinating. Great. I think it's awesome I don't like I said. I don't like to get anybody I'd like to get into the wall. Have them give me their money sure. But I don't ever like the judge that went and he doesn't deserve stands a really good player and he is one of the best tackles league. We got one here. There's a handful floating around the league. They're really really good. Now he says, you know what the other guy waiting in line says thank goodness. Because I'm a bypass you next right he's been tunsil. Deal. Ooh, let's go that. That's exactly right and he deserves it. He protects a a really really rare talent quarterback in Baltimore and it's a good thing to have and good for him but I think about it. Seven, all eighty million guaranteed almost eighty million dollars guaranteed man's wild. That's almost fifty million guaranteed who was only a three year deal right? So you think about the court and like I said, those big FELLAS got to protect your quarterback, but it's like they are making the money. that. quarterbacks just five years ago. Yeah. Warrant Meg OPTIMA guaranteed money right now. Yeah. If you start to think about what was the most guaranteed money five years ago I'm not sure we hit eighty million dollars now maybe I'm way off but I don't think so heck we're just getting to the point. Okay. I take the cousin signed the first contract. With Minnesota about four years ago. Guaranteed you right eighty, seven, million or eighty, four, million guaranteed. Like wall everybody went nuts hundred percent guaranteed eighty, four million. Tackle. God bless him I mean look at me should be paying guys that are that are doing their job, right? Love it. That's a lot of money a ton of money but. That you you got that you've got that quarterback that really need you to protect. Worth you're paying at no question about you imagine what Stanley's what full. Yeah. Yeah Twenty six twenty seven mark doing his thing. Can you imagine what he's going to get a lot? A Lot. He's GonNa make the Sean contract. There's no question about man no question Ronnie Stanley is what. It is. You said it's a five year deal five year deal. Yeah. Okay. So what's HE GONNA? Basically a six year deal yeah. He'll be thirty, two. He's twenty, six, thirty, two year old tackles. That are still good. Get paid more money. Yeah I mean he's another three your there's plenty of. Great a lot at making double digits. Brown. And you know what? Ryan's Ronnie may never get eighty million again guaranteed after this he won't need it. I wouldn't think thirty five now, but he's still playing high level. If Ronnie, Brown's just good at thirty two but if he's good healthy. You're looking at what by that time what? The average tackles making ten, twelve, million bucks a year fifteen, million menu went to another pro bowl. Let's sign another three or extension for sixty million dollars or whatever it is. Right crazy stuff now, I don't even know what? I'm just throwing numbers out but ain't bad from thirty to thirty five. You still got another contract coming down the pike. No, it's a good thing to have. So I would take congrats, Dirani, Stanley, and these guys will keep getting paid I. Wonder You know you always asked us. We asked us in baseball member one, eight Rod got paid. We said, well, that's got to be two, hundred, fifty, two, million remember from the Rangers you. Say. Well, there's got to be a ceiling now right Kinko Nets just were double always does dominant trout's for something a-rod Rod? Got To those deal right two of them right and now we got mahomes at five hundred million. So where does it stop? It. Doesn't because what if Trevor Lawrence plays like Mahomes did In, his first few years and let's say Lawrence goes to a team with a lot of money the jets right? New York endorsed. Let's just say yeah. And gets to a super bowl and your to. and. PUTS PUTS on basically caliber number to play three years the contract before he he. Hit to play four years you can you can sign up the fourth year. Right gets a five year I. When you get to be on quarterbacks fifth year twenty, one, twenty, two, twenty, three, twenty, four after the twenty, four season. So, looked. Like. Center fifty million dollars. That's why I'm saying by twenty twenty, five, hundred, pay seven, three quarters of a billion. Think about that and a lifer in the city, right? Now. You say he goes the jets and I want to okay maybe not that's if he took the mahomes. Deal whatever right. But I'm saying that kind of money if he plays if he goes somewhere and it turns it around, they start winning. Yeah and he puts up huge pro bowl type numbers and make senators. He had to win a super bowl on that I would find it. Thanks so yeah, I. Like to get to the mahomes standard right now, he went to somewhere like Ben. Did remember when Ben got draft tenth or eleventh whatever it was and he went to Pittsburgh as opposed because he didn't go as high as he thought and went there and went to a team that wasn't read that didn't have to retool they just. Reloaded right? Yeah and Ben was part of a good team well, goes on wins had been been doing that now. How he did that urge. He'd be it'd be making that kind of money he has to banked over yeah fifty. Oh. Yeah. No question. Easy. So I'm just wondering what Lawrence would be paid. If you think about it though we knew Cam can't city far better than the jets. But before Bahamas took over, we looked at Kansas City as a playoff team but really never said, this is a super bowl. Yeah. Right I'm talking about in the Mo-. I started code we over the job and we have the Oh Alex. Smith can get them to the playoffs. INS May too. They can't get to February, well, then they got the quarterback got up now those are hard to come by but just from Lawrence's ability, the way people talk about and we're looking at another. If things go great for him, you're looking at a six hundred, million dollars seven hundred, million dollar quarterback, right? The way thanks change. Unbelievable sports talk seven hundred Sean South Show we are GONNA ice cold. Take him next who some of the things people say right here with MC with Josse and me and we'll take your call seven, one, three, two, one, two, five, seven, ninety right here we are ice cold takes Nex. It's your home teams anytime anywhere. Got Love your whole team. Just tell your smart device sports talk seven, ninety on iheartradio. This is the Sean Salisbury show and his name is. Shawn Sean Really. On Sports. Talk Seven Ninety Time to crack. One Open H town. Is Better Do Stone Code seriously, the ice cold takes of the week extreme cold on the Sean Salisbury show. All right takes the week. Those things people say MC. Let's start with you. I'm going back something. We talked a lot about the other day because it still was so baffling when it happened game six of the world series Tampa Bay, Rays Los Angeles Dodgers Blake Snell out there dealing through five and a third. Would only give it a couple of hits in the ball game stout nine top of the order coming back up who he had struck out all three batters in each of their at bats was a total of six strikeouts for his nine. We're against their top three hitters in the order and Kevin cash in the numbers they went to the bullpen and they brought in Nick Anderson, who had set a record for most consecutive outings in a postseason with Iran allowed at seven with what he did in that one. And only had two outings in ten out of the postseason where he did not give up a run which is embarrassing and Kevin Cash went to him. What are you know the race small lead of one nothing was quickly gone and then after the Game Kevin cash when they lost the world series in this game was asked, would you do that again go back and pull blake snail after seeing what happened personally felt blake had done his job and then some mookie coming around for the third time through. I value that. I totally respect and understand the the questions that come with it Blake gave us every opportunity to win. He was outstanding. They're not easy decisions And, that's where I came to the decision. I felt it was best after the guy got on base Barnes at the single. Didn't want Mookie mookie or seger seeing Blake. A third time if we had to do it over again I would have the utmost confidence in Nick Anderson to to get through that inning I mean just one of the dumbest takes in the biggest spots you could ever have especially when you go look at the numbers where it told you that the hitters that he specifically brought up there mookie and Seger are worse against left handed pitching and you. Brought in a variety mookie on the season was sub six hundred for the Oh ps against left handed pitching in seager. He was a better hitter against lefties than mookie but worse against lefties than rice just so dumb a dumb explanation. One of the best ice cold takes of the year is Kevin Cash and what he did in that game six and they deserve to lose the world series with how he managed. There has nothing to add to that. There's no question we went over it and it bore repeating and you are one hundred percent correct my friend, Alright Josh witchy gap. So we we all know that Dallas lost their star quarterback Dak Prescott. Couple weeks ago. Well a I'm sure a common guests on this segment decided to. See that there's really not much of a drop off between Cuban never wanted to be number two up in Dallas Jack and Andy Dalton through the numbers out. It's the same. Do Dalton was drafted Higher Dalton had a very productive college career Dalton has had more double digit win seasons don't the more touchdown passes in one season the idea there's this massive gap. There really isn't. And I, mean. Look. I get a few years ago Andy, Dalton was a winning quarterback was helping Cincinnati have some of their better years. Any now is not that guy and if you want to just see how the cowboys feel about it, look at what happened after Andy. Dalton. Took that cheap shot and what happened when Dak Prescott went down with injury people were crying over deck they wouldn't even defend eighty. and. I'll tell you this and that's a great point. I've always I've loved Colin I don't need to practice for a long time. He says a lot of things. He's on here every week. Our school takes everybody doesn't mean I don't like him respect him and listen. He's clever. He's smart. He's a hell of a radio guy. TV, now to an but I it's okay like he you can criticize a player. Concord says a lot of hot take stuff that that Barrett and he's getting two of them on this show. Two of them and you're right about Andy Dalton before I give mine hit what Richard Sherman said and you talked about the love for it and complete disrespect bogus Bush league such a horrible thing that teammates did to. Andy. Dalton but Colin Coward saying that the gap between forget I'm talking about this social I'm talking about just performance. DAK PRESCOTT IS GONNA make forty million year I like Andy Dalton is a backup or a starter somewhere else maybe one day again for a couple years, he's not even in the same area code as Dak. Prescott period. When it comes to performance, he deserved better on this Andy Dalton is a good player and a good guy the dallas cowboys dissipate demise is what the cowboys are. This year listen to what Richard Sherman said about the Dallas cowboys if you're in Tampa and somebody hits Tom, Brady, like that. I don't think that guy. If you're in if you're in. Seattle up the Russell Wilson. I. Don't think got next few if you're in new New Orleans in happens to drew that guy does not make. He's one hundred percent correct. Dallas cowboys with all the horrible stuff. They're doing this year on the field defensively. That that that's as heinous as it gets somebody should've taken a a personal foul and and that dude, I don't mean cheap shot blood but somebody should've taken notice and take a number and made sure that they allowed message because you don't let your player do that. That's family what happened last night with Teddy. Bridgewater taking that shot you saw all of his lime and. Go up in everybody else's pace that should never happen when it's family and your team made his family. All Right back to Colin Coward. Now remember this he's never started a game. I want you to listen to this before now here's a national champion and the rest of it. He's never started a game as an NFL quarterback until this week right when he plays the rams. But here's what Colin Coward had to say well. Did. This guy just got really no shot. He's going to be a failure right to is small and isn't really that athletic small doesn't have a huge arm doesn't run around and wins. But. I had this epiphany I'm like, what am I? Wait a minute dis- could be terrible. That's first of all. That's take right there. My is called Donovan what he said about two is shorter. To It's not overly explosive athlete like we got here in Houston or Seattle I'm talking about with his feet. He's a great pocket maneuver guy but he's not going to rush for ninety yards away. You're not Kyla Murray. Helis Dot Carson Wentz with his feet right? And yes he doesn't have an explosive arm. He's got enough arm to make the decisions and throws you need. He served throws you need he's smart enough to make the decision need an accurate enough to excel. There's a guy in New Orleans that doesn't run well. Is Not Tall, and it's been pretty good Mount Rushmore type. Of Guy. I'm not comparing to him, but you could see comparisons from the left side with with the way he does his job drew brees pretty good rest. Wilson's not exactly six five. Kyle. Murray looks like he's about five seven stakes Nathan as five ten, Baker Mayfield all these Mayfield's a little bigger than people think he is. Measurable Zero to do a success anymore. Now, if you can't throw the ball from Media Josh will you're not GonNa last in the League to can. He. Played Top programme. Yes. Get great players around. Do I think to can carry a team like Russell Wilson? No I don't do I think it can be really really really good and possibly a star in the league I do because. Being a quarterback is far far more the successful ones I know a lot of guys who thought through car wash without getting it wet. And are very good and I know a bunch of guys that are accurate. The throw on time and or smart and guts that will last a long time to be startlingly. But see how calm clever. But that's why I said. He's clever. He covered himself on both ends. Player one more time and listen to you guys. You'll know exactly what I'm saying. So you can never really rip pim if to is or isn't. I know but listen to what he says to is small. Isn't really that athletic small doesn't have a huge arm doesn't run around in wins. But I had this epiphany I'm like, what am I? Wait a minute. This could be terrible. Now, what he say all those measurable don't add up but he wins. The second half of that he said this. Terrible. So now for years from now, if he's if he's good. He's GonNa, play the all these measures, but look. He wins. If he sucks it's I told you that he could be this this this may not work well. Let Me Talk I'm going to tell you guys this down. So I want you to put this from is called take five years now. Trevor Lawrence has all the measurable, but maybe too maybe measurable maybe Tall Guy You know six, six, six, seven. Six maybe you're to talk because it's got to have Y-, there's so much ground. It's too much of a over extended release. And but he wins. He's been a national title. And but I'll tell you think about this and I think he's so good in college and at Clemson all those five star recruits he could if he goes to the jets. Now, not not win could. See what see what I did there, and also the thing that call and fills of mentioned and I think this is what's going to dictate to success more than anything else and I do agree you have some ability nowadays just as a quarterback unless you're just one of those elite passers and understand the defense and smarter than everyone he did have some mobility when he was healthy when he first came in as A. He was running around everywhere. There was enough to be get outside the pocket universe down. Right. So you want if you WANNA compare them to cuyler or Lamar. Cool. Nobody's those. There's all tell you what mahomes isn't those guys mahomes buys time could scramble a little make the throw but mahomes isn't gonNA consistently run the football successful as Russ or or Lamar he just not. He's a pocket guy who can extend place to is a smaller version of you mean of a of a lot of guys that may not be overly explosive athletes but I got news for you. Can you anticipate? How's your football Iq? Can you throw the ball? Accurate? And can you handle? Can you win when you're not playing well, I've seen to do all those at one level. So see you cover yourself. I think he's got a chance to be really really really successful and I think he's going to be. His height is not going to matter. Whether he's successful or not. There may be other things. Put it this way if you had a strong armies inaccurate, he won't last long if he's in if he's accurate but has eight seventy, five, percent arm eighty-five monarch fastball, he'll succeed. So I don't know listen I. Don't know how he's going to be in Miami until I watched the dude play I know how wasn't Alabama and I know he's everything you like about him. As far as all the other stuff the non stuff that's not measurable or Siebel to as God. You've got a better arm than you think enough of armed last the NFL he may not have all the measures, but you know what? I know a lot of successful ones that don't. So I'm leaning on the side that he's going to be successful for all the reasons that people who haven't played the position don't quite understand the the entertaining. Guys like me average mic guys like him a chance to be great. There's a reason why drafted fifth you gotTa take a risk. Hell I still think Sam Donald is going to be a good player because I've seen stuff about him, but you gotta get to the right team to is not going to. Russell Wilson carrying a team, but too can win super bowl somewhere if they keep built around him a good players around him, I think he's got that ability sportstalk seven, ninety the ability for using them that it's great as well. It's going to be great for a long time. 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How's it going for all the people the judge Pat Mahomes for being a Texas Tech quarterback judge the players for who they are not by who they played or where they played out. No no Mike Leach quarterbacks ever going to be successful. Yes. So starter in the late kyle was too small and you know transfer didn't win. It couldn't win the job at a and M. First pick of the draft. Yeah. Cliff. Raved about him forever. Would have any Oklahoma quarterback success before Lincoln Riley right yeah. In the NFL guys trins there guys that are different than what the trend of a note. Nick Sabin. Literally never had a quarterback to Baker Mayfield starting on a five hundred team in. Contrary same and has got both both their teams on a planet as we say Mayfield started at Texas tech as well. Right. So I just I understand people say but we get caught it. Well, it's the same thing well, since Kisha wide receivers. So all of a sudden no USC wide receivers be Robert Woods is good I mean but. Flying Veterans and a wide receiver is GonNa be good because well, they went to USC that's that's I. I understand why people have that perception but just like you're going to have to judge Mack Jones. But Jones right just like you're going to have to judge. How many Sabin quarterbacks drafted in the first round? I don't think was he there for Russell Shepard? Lsu. was where I think he was gone gone by Marcus Russell, Russell Chat Rush Chevron and Jamarcus Russell. Russell. Shepherd who I played against school. Was Jimbo assistant there at the time jamarcus Russell was that nick. Sabin quarterback. That's a good question I. Don't know if it was. If it was less miles. Miles. Was Jimbo de Jimbo coaching. Jimbo's was coaching him or not. I don't remember who is who is his quarterback had. Less miles. I'm thinking it is too. I don think Nick Sabin was long on by he's been in Alabama for a while. Went to Miami, I believe two thousand. They're saving recruited him. Four. Saving was coaches first year at Lsu. Cable. Milestone government. Let's. Right of his starting time. Who Was the coordinator to? Four was. Cam Cameron. Wasn't there he came after that. If I'm not mistaken. Jimbo was offense coordinator world must champ was the defense. Jimbo. Coach Five Year Right. So there you go and Jimbo remember Jimbo also had EJ Manuel and Christian ponder right then he coach both. State. Yeah. So Jimbo's been known to take guys did in college you wondered about and tournament first round draft picks were on the other side savings team around him. He has first round picks everywhere else but. quarterback. So I listen and it's not right. Sabin. Never had. We, there's not fair to judge to just like. You wouldn't judge Keaton Slovaks by Sam Darnold. Carson Palmer or or Sam. darnold because of Carson Palmer or because of Matt liner, it's different players and I mean you remember what? First few years when Alabama and start producing all these running backs and Trent Richardson busted every Albanian rain back was the bus because Mark Ingram wasn't doing well yet marking your son Well Eddie lacy when ricky didn't fell off and now dare Kim maybe the best running back in the NFL. Christian. McCaffrey game. And you know. Henry Bad Han. Teric Henry to call him D. Hint here. That's just I mean Derrick Henry it is. It is or what else is it? The Keyword, the king. Yeah. So I don't know why you disrespect him like that emcee Okay. You might want to just let D. Hindu thing did. Not As name. That's not as names what you're going to go with YEP, but he may be very well be the best inside the tackles runner in all football yourself you just can't judge the point being made is you can't take what's happened to some guy, their DNA. Now. Some guys don't know how to coach very I. Don't want another quarterback if I'm the jets right now coach by Adam Gates. Sorry. I just don't because you don't maybe not give the best chance seek out of gates does XS and Os, but it doesn't seem like he knows how to control the team is a head coach Dick Sense summits up made for some but I'm not judging to buy well, Nick Sabin had him in college and Nick. Sabin. Finally came around why don't you judge Nick Sabin for his way that he's recruited quarterbacks forever he finally came around to realizing that the college game has gone so heavy offense and that he needs a quarterback. That's great. So he started recruiting quarterback and when's the last time and Nick Sabin quarterback through four, hundred, four, hundred, four, hundred, almost four, hundred I don't know if that's ever happened in Alabama history truthfully and Mack Jones did. I quarterback that he's had that was legit. First Round town and he all on two hours. Yeah. Any and. How he goes now and judge tool by what the next coach does with them and how they develop it in an NFL style often. So we'll see I understand people's. The. Going against. The you know they're sticking to the trend of then we should assume that now every quarterback that comes out of Texas tech is going to be like, Pat Mahomes, right? Yeah. No, it's now you gotta judge each individual has different DNA in different strengths and weaknesses but I get your. You could also grew that go back and always say watch the player when they're in college and determine did you in? If that person did or not when I. Watched two in college I always said that's an NFL quarterback. It looks and same with Pat Mahomes, anybody that watched patent homes at Texas. Tech you knew that that is a dude that is going to be good in the NFL Sunday player in Mahal does even better than we thought right far better this fast sportstalk seventy, John, Clayton, and thirty minutes we'll talk. Well, we'll continue to discuss this football a big weekend pit I think Pittsburgh and Baltimore to get it on this week. That's that's going to be a fun sportstalk seven Eric. Homemade. Multi French Shaw Salisbury. This is the Sean, Salisbury? Show. Our number four. Here on a little bit chilly. Speaking of chilly it is nice. It is. Isn't it? Nice out there. I'm. Looking at the weather forecast for next week to by the way Houston Open in town out at Memorial Park Party and I'm. Party. I'm. GonNa Party I think I'm going to try and find some of the secondary market tickets overpay for it and go because the girlfriends out of town next week and she's going to Disneyworld with her mom for her birthday. So it's Michael's weakened and I can just do whatever the Hell I want you just talk in the third person I did my Advice, will you be a gentleman Michael Bo Jackson Michael's going to eat whatever Michael once next weekend he's going to possibly go spend some money and watch some one hell of a field but lined up to play the Houston open next week. The only guys not coming unfortunately tiger woods has passed. Do they have a pro-am? I don't know. Assume they do but we were invited I. Wonder if they don't have a pro-am because of covid. Year might be right because I'd like to play in it. To. I've never been invited to it. Prancer Fun to I've been invited something by Jim Crane Jam. If you're if you hear us, we would love an invite. You invited me before to fly on your airplane that course we'll know but he. Found actually. Put It on. That's what am I saying the memorial course anyway, right right. They put all the money to ask foundation put all the money and did a city course that it's. It's harding park, right? It's a city or among. I used to play there once a week and I loved it before they did the renovations because I think it's just a a hidden jam and it's cheap I always like they've been doing car Pat Riley and I'm not doing. Yeah, I don't WanNa hit. To judge hit it near the cart. Without it being cart past. Tournament hopefully. It's corporate. I'd Love WanNa, play there a few times I. Keep, thinking whatever you think a golf tournament I think private course. No memorials obviously public courses CITICORP's. But at that, they've got dressed up back to its roots I guess it's awesome. But the pro am I would like prions or blast. If you can get us in one. Let's go okay and they are blast I just put it out there but I don't know if they're having one because of covid. Might you probably can't do that. I would think because otherwise we'd be here in la the band about I would say we would be invited. That's just my prediction on all we've invited yet. They Astros Foundation did run it last year still and I didn't get invited to that one I was hopeful. I'm begging on on the air you want to know how nervous I honestly I'll see I'm going to be nervous. You would not would do I'm telling you right now wouldn't be you one, hundred percent would. Be on the golf course like I'm not nervous with pros. Yeah. You would be because I know they're gonna I'M GONNA look. Idiot. That's the point I. Listen I've been in play, the ninety, thousand, hundred, thousand, Notre Dame, and that I remember my first pro, it was a senior prom was my first one I don January. Great old. Don January. and. We've myself Mike Madonna the hockey playoffs the local top sports broadcaster in town in Minnesota and me and Don January our teatime happened to be like 1205. The prime were everybody's off for lunch. The weather was beautiful at Bunker Hill's. Dude. I said the same that come on now. I, know I drive I said the same thing you you are one hundred percent wrong I'm not saying you're you're not gonNa be you don't think you can hit the Gop I knew I could hit the ball I was playing my best golf at the time but I feel I was afraid I was going to miss it and they don't line like behind you they were lined up four feet from me because Dan it's amid down the fairway. It, they were people and I'm like, do the hard thing I had to do put my tee in the ground I might my hand was shaking. And the people you put your, they want to be stupid enough staying down there did that I told him I said, well, you guys can talk you want with me and by the way probably not wise to stay in their. Cage and they laughed, and so all of a sudden Madonna gets up. And frigging. Smokes down the right side right to left typical hockey player. Joe Schmidt gets up there boom hits a good one I'm hitting third January's IT FOR All my gosh and fortunately. I hit the ball and hit it solid and it just rolled into the first cut but a good shot. My heart the rest unlike on the walk down the fair you know you hand your club St Caddy. You feel pretty cool and January is all the way back for the tournament and frigging smokes one right down the middle typical old school texts and tough guy right and so I'm talking him as we're walking having a good time and at some point now, guys like that what will happen once you get off the first box you kind of going around. They will make you you. You focus on your game that for five straight holes I played out of my. mind. I made. Four or five partner of to me out of my because. I have one in the rough tree hanging down and I hit it under the tree land to about four feet was one of those really like please let me this looks pretty That slowing up the group and all those guys Joe Schmidt and I are about the same Madonna far better like single digit. To who or whatever it was and January alls I wanted to do is make sure that when I walked up to green, I get to fix my ball bark and yeah hot like everybody else right and I had one of those moments were like for about four or five holes par a chance at a Birdie or two but missed the you know what I mean but I'm just telling you brother I've been nervous before that was about as those programs because it's out of your element even though I'm going into the my swagger hanging damn. Yeah okay. Okay. Your Heart's GonNa pound a tad faster even want will, but they're fun. So we need point is so. You're having gay pro-am nextwave. Somebody out there listening that has the ability to get us in it. We'll take a spot. I? Just don't even know if they are. We should look and see if there's a prime do it I wonder if it's online but yeah, I was I was so uptight and don made it easy. But you know people talked about when he was a regular on tour. Here's that tough guy grinder right but he was all Texas tough and I had a blast him. I was just nervous as hell playing at that unlike man I played in front of bigger crowds in this air having. This is uptight as I've been. waitlisted only for the Wednesday pro-am Kerley are. Are Invite got lost in the mail everyone Monday assuming that are invites there right probably somewhere in the our offices here You know what's going to happen Doug Pike will be playing in and out us. Oh yeah that's a good point. Don't put up way here I guess. I played look. I love the Astros. The excuse I tried to make the probably not having one because of covid. Yeah. But there tried look they're having go when you go to the Houston open website. Bigger stars man probably some stars from out of town or coming into plant to imagine maintenance a huge field series bigger, Bresca. Fill. He committed yesterday it's a loaded you need is do via buddy with a PGA tour player plays in it where he calls up and says, Hey, I'd like to play with. Yeah. You know that that's the key there. Right? I'm GonNa Start tweeting Brooks Koepka. Right now. So if if somebody's in town plant practice around this week. And you hear this guy. Yeah, we'll play. Kept right now. Have time to come on the show while you're at it. You should speak to yourself with a third person in a tweet as well. Say, Hey. Hey Michael Michael Connor would love to play the program and I won't be nervous and I won't slow you down put that on their. Address yourself and the third person like you said Michael next week gets to eat do whatever he wants Michael Light Plane Golfing when light for you to invite and it's like the Michael will make a few Birdie putts to. Not Right now, not my game I mean, last time I played I did I did have the most random round ever last time I played I had four birdies, an eagle and three triple bogeys. Yeah. Man I'm but I was rogoff unfortunately I'm telling you that was that was one of the my heart was stood I was afraid. What you don't WanNa do all you ever pray for in those things for me as a begged for pray for as for get make it good off the first tee because if you bogey hold number four, the truth is maybe people may not be watching. You want that initial thought process for not only from your playing partners but from the people watching that when they go back home because. They may be perched at the first old that they say man. Player. I saw hit it really good teashop all but you didn't follow the arrest of the tournament to see. But yeah, it was good times man but my nerves were on the first I thought Schon dot snap hook it don't miss it. Don't take it with your driver which we've all been known to do and we swing I mean all of it slow your tempo down over all those things. I had a million swing thoughts. I'm shocked I could even out I eat and then like I said Madonna steps up and hits it like. On Dude I hit slap shots from one hundred feet. This is easy and I'm to whistles a low boring right to left drive was awesome. tweeted KEPCO. I told him to come on the show and also told him to get you and me and the pro-am. There you go. There you go. I want to see if it works out I'M GONNA start tweeting everybody in the field took these D- Shambo come put. I wouldn't tweet him and just call him a bitch. Though. He's probably a town listened right? It'll be over here. Right? I don't see him on the committed. He said he had a four hundred one yard drive on a practice tee. Resting new drivers I'm a tweet Phil. Phil next I played my best round of golf with his sister and I told you that in San Diego Name Dropper No. Did you know I just said no I sean sows replayed his best rat golf with her the reason I say that is because when you're playing with somebody like a female, who's she's straight all the time and talked me through eighteen holes of Sean. You don't have to hit driver here when I know what I mean actually. One of the sweetest nicest people in the World Tina Mickelson is and a hell of a player. So it was a great teaching lesson because she teaches. Teaches as well and it was fun for me my it's still the best round of Golf I've ever shot. And it was with. Walking me talking me out of being an idiot double bogeyed three holes in a row swing actually can shoot my best golf ever. So there you look get you. There you go. Get kept getting. There we go. We'll find somebody else's start tweeting to John Clayton and fifteen we'll just treat them altered. I'm telling you. 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For me there certain things like it's kind of goes hand in hand like on I'll tell you what for instance I used to eat French. Dips. Halloween was a French dip night. Okay. You know you have. French. Dave did just for for years. It was like you just kind of that. Like. Turkeys Thanksgiving Halloween was French dip. But for me now it's chilly time man homemade Chelsea I'll ask for Sup- Yesterday when we didn't have anything to make soup. Really, okay. chunky white meat chicken noodle soup over at central mark. Same Way two days ago. Yeah. Solid Guy. Yeah. I love chicken. Soup Chili twice in less seven days or maybe like ten days and I have a head. Chilean probably, I don't eat chill year. One homemade one was James. Coney island like French fries with a Chili and cheese on it. Okay. It was good. You put Fritos on top of your chilly ever. Yeah. Always like that. The call by you MC you chilly guy I'm not a big chillier. I like Chili like if you very rare very, very rare more about. Chili hotdogs that's about it. And that's weird some. Dogs. Just because I'd never was around anybody that may chilly. So I love children who doesn't mean man? Talent. Or. Did you get Hormel out of the CAN Josh? My mom made it for me. I don't remember. I don't know. But it was good. Yeah, it was real good I. liked that allow big spice guy with my i. need I need that's where I'm at if it was nice and spicy like the other night I told you I made we made I made. Did Tuna. Tuna. Fish. Like tuna steaks. I ever. Did you bake them like I said I did I probably could him about five minutes too much? It sucked but you didn't trust my first. What what was your normal? You did you did the? Seared for two minutes on each side or put in for I put in for. Probably Thirteen twelve, thirteen nine now stupid odds little longer largest. Not. I never done it before and it wasn't like was over but the thought is good. Yeah. But the spice I use this Asian Teriyaki thing. Awesome I'M GONNA kick my ass was so spicy love that at a little Sabi to Bingo you're not all I mean it's a loss I was knows running the entire time. Awesome. Yeah. I I just wonder if fall is Is a I told you guys I have a the. Superstition that guy said this last year but you know how like normal years like accompanied? Bring your Thanksgiving deleon. Yeah, I don't every Thanksgiving meal. Before thanksgiving. I will ever like when we usually have our meetings here whatever and. I will I will grab like a role. I will now holly whole thing I won't eat stuffing. Mashed potatoes and gravy with the Thanksgiving. I will not eat creamed corn or the Turkey it's. Amazing. Food, you can have. Between because I don't want ruin it. I'M NOT GONNA. Have cranberry sauce one other time. I don't eat less I. have it then I am. And I make this like four cheese green bean casserole the frigging off them hung on the hook I'm ready for Thanksgiving and. It's only between Thanksgiving and Christmas and my allowed to eat that. If you came to me right now said Sean, we're having an unbelievable spread. With thanksgiving, you know we're we're going to have it three weeks early I'd say that I'll come back can't eat it. Just won't do it. Yeah because I WANNA wake up on Thanksgiving Day. That's my first. Introduction of the year. Now I'll eat Turkey Deli meat right I'm. Not. Having. Anything to do with Turkey and I it's one of my favorite meals I love it but I liked that I liked attempt myself but I don't like to do it. That's the first time of the year now between Thanksgiving and Christmas, it's all good but once January hits I'll see you on the Turkey stuffing all that stuff the next year. Because I'm sick of it is just because I. Love giving so much I think between Thanksgiving and Christmas it's all in for those meals and I will say this right now I am pissed off I know we don't do anything other than eight at Christmas or Thanksgiving, but I've walked into so many stores last couple of days and everything out there is Christmas already. Is, we haven't even hit Halloween. I'm not so sure. Thanks not my favorite holiday anyway. Thanksgiving's the best because you don't spend money on as you see. There's no guilt about gifts and the food's awesome and all you do is eat. There's no way around this year, we get to watch Texas, get their ass kicked by the Lions on Thanksgiving it'd be great. Can you imagine actually you know what the Texans are one against the lines on Thanksgiving? So let's go for a second not as well. Keep perfect I'm GonNa, get some duck and I think this this Thanksgiving John Little Turn Duck, and Garett, what's up man? Jon For taking my call Man I. You know I called about Tom Herman this morning, because I heard a rumor that if they. If. They lose Osu. He'll be fired and I wanted your take on that and you know, Texas don't go ahead I was going to say where's the rumor? You don't have to tell me the name of buddy is. An article is you're just a friend that you know. Let's tied it. It was off one of the Texas fan pages. Okay. I can't remember what but that's what That's what they are saying and and so no. Ultimate. No with the five star quarterback and then the four star wide receiver committed. You know ultimately or just seeing Texas as a place where they you know they're not. Able to go to the next level or there are some. Atmosphere there you know, and that's really sad. 'cause obviously that university they're not playing a and M. Right now. So there's nothing that the state can really about in terms of interesting. Other than like Texas against the other teams in the big twelve but you know, no superstar matchup hat is interstate. and. So you know I think turnage really got a lot on his plate. All against them and so you know. It just seems like. There's a there's a really interesting situation there. 'cause ain't 'em. It's somehow. Right now managed to break through the mediocrity and so I don't know Texas quite done. Anyway I mean. Think. Flashes but they they create they creep back into it too. They're not. They're not where they want to be as a football team. Although we know and the extra I. Hate to say it expectations in Texas are usually Texas is supposed to be. But The ATM's more physical than they've been the past which I like and I still and Jimbo sign a long contract. You're not there's no danger there may be a top twenty, five, fifteen team if everybody was already playing right now but their top ten area because a lot of people aren't planning that's exactly right. There's no doubt in. Am then as we know their schedule gets tough, it's tough to win in the Utah about am yeah it's tough to win a consistent basis, but I actually trust Jimbo Fisher and I listen I've. Interviewed Tom Herman many times in Tom's always been kind to me and we I love talking football with him. But the fact of the matter is the expectations are higher and you can't just do they've been doing it. Texas it's got a I don't know I have no idea. I've not not privy to any rumor that if he loses this week he's getting fired. Listen to fan discussion pages they don't have correct room right because I think do I think that the leash that the star? That Tom had when he went there is saying I think it's shining as bright and that doesn't mean it's not a good football coach right now they've got to do more Texas because the expectations whether we think it or not the expectations at Texas. The same they are at. Organ. Alabama clemson flood just are now on a national scope they may not be anymore but Balan the universe on campus and I think here in Texas we expect now they haven't been on that. It's been a while but going in we always say well, they should be in aren't they winning more big twelve titles why aren't they in the final four? Yes. So do I think there's pressure on Tom Herman I absolutely do do I. Think Tom's good good football coach I do is the perfect fit for University of Texas I don't know he said it was his dream Gig, right? Yeah. That's where he. University and he's coached there before assistant. So I hope Tom Turns it around I do hope he turns it around and they get rolling in. He doesn't have to worry about his job, but the the reality of it is the ever say Texas has to be better. They just do yeah and we we've asked for hell handful of years. Now we're on three coaches in a row that we've asked for win win is it going to be? What are we going to quit saying this is has to be better. They gotta develop players better, and like I said, I've been a supporter of Tom Herman, I had I was in favour of getting the job but once you get the job, you've got to keep the job and keep the job doesn't mean an eight games losing Oklahoma every year you gotTa win more and you gotTa beach arrival. That's the way it is that all the big schools and Tom Unfortunately for him to know different the leash short there is no question we'll see how well. How many different rungs your Taylor what? What are those called The. CIA links, links, links, and the champ, how many of the shortened or if Tom can pull off and get this thing going and then grabbed himself and other contract right now Texas has to play better they just do. All year long on a consistent basis Cova or not. They had to play better sportstalk seventy John Clayton the professor next, we'll play four downs. Hey this Whitney. Mercilus you listening to Sean Salisbury. Real Texans Talk Sports Seven. Ninety. Sheep. Sports talk seven hundred GONNA play four down here in a second and welcome in our Guy Espn seven ten in Seattle. John. Clayton joins us the professors. He does every week Johnny Lim let me get to Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Think we. Both had Pittsburgh making the playoffs in Baltimore probably win. The. Division has your mind changed and how big a game is this matchup this weekend. Huge because I think what you're seeing is that the Camp Pittsburgh top Baltimore Yeah We. We both figured going in particular with the schedules of both teams had be twelve and four teams, and so as a matter, we'll go who's going to get the advantage as far as the seating and everything else you know tiebreakers and everything, and of course it Pittsburgh can win this game I think they have a chance to be able to do it. They would end up having a little advantage of the tiebreaker because they won the road game and that was the home game back. and. You know they have one easier presence because they don't have to play the Kansas City chiefs. So this is huge for both teams which look at is at the Ben Rothlisberger has fully recovered from the elbow is playing great you. They have Juju Smith Schuster doing well then you add to a chase Klay Pool who looks like one of the better rookie wide receivers go with a top five Defense Baltimore's is better but the offense is not performing as well as it did last year. Jackson's a little less accurate than he was last year and he's not running as much. So I think you know the odds favor Baltimore because they are playing at home no crowd though but I think Pittsburgh has a chance to win. With that in mind, John and Lamar Jackson stand in the pocket for five throws. You don't run the ball very few teams are going to run it on Pittsburgh consistently Ken. Lamar sit back there and beat him just throwing it. If that's the case I, question it although the one thing is from year from his rookie year two second year, he made his good of an improvement. As any quarterback we've seen in a while throwing from the pocket but again, there's limitations to those rows of the pocket. I. Would he be able to be very good on the quick passes in the middle and the pass on the outside? It's just a deeper throws from the pocket. He's not been as consistent on and that's something that hasn't improved from last year and so knowing that. He can stand there and throw the quick passes that can work because you know Pittsburgh fifty percent Blitstein, and so they're going to be coming. So he may not have time to throw the long passes from the pocket. He's GonNa have to roll out to try to be able to do. That would be a great game. I can't wait to superbowl caliber teams battling for field advantage and to stay at home let's play four downs. Are Enormous. Time to play four downs with Sean Salisbury and Professor John Clayton first. down. Should the Texans hires GM. Good question I, think Nick Caserio seems to be somebody that is of interest to them. I think that might be You'll one that the least moves to the forefront because again. They were looking for bill. O'Brien. To bring him in and of course, you figure he's going to leave New England at the end of the year. So I would put his name at the top of the list John Do. Here's the thing about. Current GM's good ones stay where they are, right? Yeah. This is kind of a weird and why am I losing? What's the assistant GM and Kansas City's named John off the top of my head I why am I losing my mind player personnel guy? My Mind's gone blank. Do Remember who did we taught Orsi? No in Kansas City. Anyway, it'll come to me, but because you're looking at success then I'm leaning towards the enemy as the coach but John For me you know Thomas Dmitrov, who had it John Dorsey is available I would love him to bring in a consultant that would at least help another hide korn ferry to find the GM see for me. I don't necessarily because unless I'm in the building, it's hard for me to stay across the bad guys in Caserio seems to be a Jack Easterby Guy a New England guy people around here. Don't really want New England around here but Caserio is the hot talk because. Well, he comes from Jack Easterby and that group in its knowledge. So for me, I want guy hired I don't necessarily have a name I'm going through experience and where they've been in Seattle in Kansas City places it F- success that you can learn under like we've seen in Green Bay in the past. So for me, it's not necessarily a name it's somebody who's been around people who make good decisions but please make it a football guy not a guy who's a numbers guy, I can hire that guy not a guy found by a consulting firm I want football guy finding a football guy. The most complete team in the AFC is who? I'd say the most complete team that would be the the Baltimore Ravens because they've got a good defense got a good. They got a good offense, a good running game, good coaching and all that stuff. You can also make the argument for the Pittsburgh steelers to because they're a complete team You know you can look at Buffalo and kind of question and a little bit because you have. Josh Allen is much better but are there better on offense but how good are they on offense? So I still Kansas City's defense is a little bit better than last year but I'd say for complete I'd lean towards Baltimore Pittsburgh. Now listen, we'll get to another question later on but I I'm going to Pittsburgh for this reason, all the reasons you said John when it comes to defense both of them play really good defense both of them compressor both of them Compla- zone, both of them run the football, both of them have some perimeter weapons in. And Klay, pool as you mentioned earlier, they can score at a high level. Then it comes down to this which quarterback to you. Both are well coached when John Harbaugh Mike Tomlin I mean they all over the similarities hearing the difference is. quarterback play a different brand of football. So my question is of the weaknesses which one of the weaknesses stronger. So flip Lamar Jackson, throwing from the pocket on a consistent basis is a perceived weakness is Ben Roth asperger's escape ability up received weakness. I'm GonNa tell you what I think that's pretty even to because we know that Ben can deliver from the pocket we know Lamar on the are the best in the business. So it depends on which quarterback weakness there is I think there's more playmakers with Ben Rothlisberger in the past game I. Think slightly I'm going with the Pittsburgh steelers as football's most competitive. Should I say the AFC's most complete team right now? Down down. Is The seahawks defense good enough to win the Super Bowl. Right now, no way they're playing because again, you've got more yards than any team in NFL history and they're getting absolutely no pressure on the quarterback had nine sacks that a game certainly against Arizona were Tyler Murray Drawback Forty eight times to pass, and they only had one quarterback no quarterback kids no sacks and one pressure. So that's not good enough right now but still there's time to fix this they made the move to get. Carlos done dunlap that could help that. Can they certainly need Jamal Adams back because it's such a great player looks like he's probably not going to play this week. So there's time to get this defense better. They still have talent is just not meshing together right now not meshing because of the pass rush if they can get the past rush going, that could help them get to the super. Bowl there is no discrepancy in the league. With really good team Super Bowl, capable team with a great quarterback. And then a defense that the distance between the good quarterback in the bad defense is greater than it is in Seattle. Now you'd say Houston but the problem is he's not a super team. They got a great quarterback horrible defense, but they're not going to the playoffs. Seattle's best really good great quarterback team that has the worst defense possibly of the group of great quarterbacks in this league the discrepancy between that is brutal and while I I never look at Seattle is a staple and say, rather defense is bad. Normally we're talking about their Mo's they hit you in the mouth they play. Great. Russell. Carries you the twelfth man they're they're missing about three or four the traits that make them a great team yet they're still a super bowl contender because number three there are good players, but the piece on defense are not very good as we sit today I agree with you. John. They are not super team the burden that Russell Wilson must-carry to have to play great every week. If he plays average, they're going to lose a handful more games during the season but the problem is for other opponents he doesn't play average very often it's going to be a fun game against the niners this week. Fourth down. All, right. Your life is on the line here you have to pick who represents the AFC and NFC at this point of the season the Super Bowl, who would you pick right now I go with Kansas City and still go with Seattle because one of the things going to happen with Seattle because in China where both right about the defense. But also to what happens with Seattle if they can get through this four game stretch and get a couple of wins and all that stuff you. Know they have San Francisco Buffalo they got Arizona later on the rams go their schedule gets easy right after that, and it's easier than any of the other teams in the division and most of the teams in the AFC. So know because they get to play more NFC East teams, play AFC East teams that have young quarterbacks, and so they can take on the winter. Really. We'll know whether Seattle can be that Super Bowl team in the next month and I still think they can do it. By the defense is going to be a problem but if defensive numbers will get better particularly when they get into late November and early December but they take on a slew easy teams I. My my only concern Ross is going to win the MVP this year but I think at some point they're going to lose to a team that's not very good because their defense is GonNa they're gonNA blow of of some coverages and miss some place and Russ won't be able to overcome it once which. May, end. Up costing them homefield advantage throughout the playoffs schedules easier I'm going with Tampa Bay and Kansas City if that's who I picked to the preseason and they've done nothing to tell me different plus the buccaneers defense is picked up, their linebackers are nasty brady starting around in form. If Antonio Brown's not a headache, you added other weapon who doesn't even need they don't need him. He's a luxury and they are playing really really good football I like this team and when Tom Brady gets to January. Forget it. You can. There's a really good chance. You may be seeing him in February and Kansas City when your life's on the line defenses improved I think I think they can make enough plays and they just know how to win an Andy. Reed's the best play caller in football right now, I'm going with chiefs in buccaneers as teams will meet in February, and my mind hasn't changed even since August. John. Great stuff brother hopefully, we'll get a good GM here. Don't care about the name your care that he knows about football and how to put something around Watson and hire a good head coach. Appreciate your brother. We'll talk to you next week. All right. That's a great. John. Clayton it is sports talk seven ninety. One thing we don't have real quick is when you go through because you're not going to get a great GM from a team. Yeah. Caserio is the big name. Everybody has an assistant Seattle and Kansas City and people don't know very well right right and yet but you know they've learned from the best that's what I want I don't care if it's a retread I don't get infants John Dorsey or somebody loved fine I care that somebody who has great football acumen and is allowed to do their job. Caserio is the name that we know because of New England me I won't be mad if he's the GM but I just don't love the the New England stink right and I would like him to be able to have the freedom to make all the football. Yeah. That's that's. When we asked that question my thought was I don't care about the name I care about the training and that they're in charge of the football stuff and they'll make good decisions because the names. Most, people don't even know who the other guy is in the building. In most places, we know Caserio because of the New England cassette connection it's sports talk seven Guy I'm GonNa, take off a run. Along distance in a short period of time you better get running your legs tired. They are going to chase that refrigerator brother and for you guys. Thank you very much. We don't take for granted you guys will take home I'll see you on Monday. Go. Texans go weekend on. sportstalk seventy. This is Craig busy. You're listening to Sean Salisbury on sportstalk seven nine. Oh. Fuck your home of the Stroz. Aren't. So final segment, the Sean Salisbury show has sean had to get on Outta here we play some golf lucky him but my connor jockey's still here and with the next show in the trenches. Chris Gory Sean. Jones's here fresh off of an airplane from. Jamaica Medica. He's here. Saul. His luggage in. Here, but Sean, leary just came straight from the airport. So we got all you guys you guys. What was eighty five, ninety every day down there Oh, beautiful. It's just got home, but it's beautiful is it is it better than the current state of the Houston Texans? Anything is isn't it. But not favorite this week. Yeah. They're not even other sitting at home either been on since since since all this got fired here, right after they got fired, you're here for A. We've kind of tried to do it last week but it was a horrible connection, the Texans, and the trade deadline. You've been in that world. We all know that they should make some moves because they are over the cap for next season. The will fuller ones the most obvious but They're going to move somebody out going to be the small guy like Kenny stills. I don't think they have haven't in one in the room right now to make those decisions I mean you have to plan and the biggest problem that you have is at you I have to plan to undo. The mess that you currently have people don't understand. The. Bill Brian Experiment. Is GonNA cost us to five years? that. The other day five years, five years of productivity. GM that comes in. At least. Jackley and if you're coming to give you three years never would take job. You'd have to have five years and you'd have that protection for your staff and everybody because it's GonNa take that long. You had draft capital. You don't know what kind of team you are. You know what kind of team are we? So you can put the pieces in place and then to make a decision, right, you should be able to make a decision right now. So you can have some traffic capital who's making that decision. I mean, Jack Easterby the chaplains guy algae is you have you heard anything about this guy at all like I've known of Jack for. Vacation though. Zero. Jackson, Nice Guy and everything but and he's Supposed to be a spiritual coach type refers culture type of Guy Right makes you have the right guys in the room. He's not a personnel. Personnel is hard man personal his heart you legend. UNDOING BILLOW BRIAN's. Misdeeds, they don't have a first round, pick a second round pick this year I think that's what people are looking at the trade deadline. Let's get more. Personal, you don't WanNa pay will fuller. Seventeen million. No. All right. So try to trade will fuller to a team contending Greenpeace interested green. Bay. What can you just loss? Odell I mean get get something for him. All right and I'm not I am not on the on the Trade Jj Watt Bandwagon no I figure you of all people. He's an icon in this and I'm I'm a purist I like guys starting career in one place. But it's treating because he's the owner draft capital that you have. Can you get rid of? Whitney Mercilus with that? They don't have a lot of they've paid a lot of players, but don't have a lot of great players that represented reminded good players of value fat. Now. So that's less appealing for teams because they don't want to bring in a Whitney mercilus opium, a ton of money. The next couple of years what would be good value do you think four a will fuller I mean the you get maybe a third third or fourth third or fourth I will do for will fuller But at this point you have no picks now you just have to try to grab Pixie can bundle pick so you can move out in thirds vote jacket. What you have to you have to find a way to do this over the course you can't go into the draft completed baron. You've gotta find a way to get it on. That's the work. That's the work right there. Well, you get more of that over the next two hours in the trenches Chris Gordy indie clue and that Voice Sean Jones fresh off the plane from Jamaica Talk. Texans. On the by weakening Sean said they will lose this weekend even if they aren't playing I'm McConnell Josh See thank you for listening and we'll talk to you. Monday right here let's sports. Talk Seven and this is ludicrous and I'm to tell you that Joel volt matters is time to get involved and make our voices her exercise. Your right. 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Real or Fake

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22:39 min | 3 months ago

Real or Fake

"Crude oil is crude natural gas is pure. That's why Pennzoil's based oil is made from natural gas not crowed gives you unbeatable engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil based on sequence for aware test using SA Five W. Thirty. Pardon the interruption but I'm Mike Wilpon. Tony it's national fossil day. I'm Tony Kornheiser shout out to you be browned. You'd better be careful. With shout now to you. Better. I was going to say what I was going to say is that you and I are getting close to fossil them ourselves. Point. These jobs you dry is going to be up soon. You're welcome. Boys and girls. In today's episode the dodgers you down Jose L. to they can't throw. Levian on bell is done with the jets but we begin today with how wrong we were about Tennessee titans. We both thought they wouldn't be ready for the buffalo bills because of their involvement with Corona virus but Tennessee manhandled the foreign old bills to the tune of forty two, sixteen afterwards Buffalo Coach Sean McDermott said quote we beat ourselves more than anything unquote one is that how you saw it? Well Tony. Buffalo made a bunch of stupid mistakes and penalties and we saw a drop pass. It should have been caught turn into an interception. I mean, they did a lot of dumb stuff. They look like they didn't practice like they had a week where they were trying to figure out and concentrate on ridding themselves of the corona virus and its effects as opposed to Tennessee, which actually had that and Tony. There seems to be maybe there's a simplicity to the way Tennessee plays with titans play the just maybe you don't have to have timing and maybe you don't have to have as many practices or maybe you can concentrate on things that are within your control but I know and I was watching this last night. It was too late to call you but I was pretty stunned by the way that game went. So what Tennessee did was they went six for six in the Red Zone and if anybody looks at this game and says, they saw a different way they need to go to an is surging immediately six for six hundreds. If you get opportunities and you cast those opportunities in, you're a good football team. They have thirteen guys with the corona virus did eight regulars did not play last night yeah. Yeah. Imagine how good they'll be when they're healthy like. There's some things that have to be said about Tennessee and the first one is this. They're going to use this as fuel all year long in the way the Marlins in cardinals used it in baseball. They've already said publicly a lot of people doubted us a lot of people said, we made mistakes a lot of people a lot of people a lot of people and that's going to be fuel and the second thing I think has to be said. Is it might rebel is the best pop bill Bella check of all and it's not. You know his team last year beat Baltimore in the playoffs and people thought it was a fluke and then they lost in the AFC championship game to Kansas City I don't think it's a fluke I think Tannehill I think the problem in Miami with Tannehill was coaching not Tannehill I didn't Tannehill Derrick Henry or pretty good one to shut this a really good team. Now my they're good. We'll Tony, it's the one two shots. Portland is kind of old fashioned. I mean I think posing defense is still think of history as the Guy They Have to fear, and then Tannahill can just sort of operate in the shadows, which is a very old football construct. That's not something that we've thought of the last I. Don't know twenty years even when it was a great running back Emmitt Smith still didn't think that Troy Aikman was operating in the shadows because he wasn't but there's something about that with Tannehill and Derrick Henry on a night where he doesn't have a whole lot assuming some place where you just like people are physically afraid of him Tony but I will get you all. To the Tony Buffalo did that that's an effort they ought to be. Embarrassed by giving the day were undefeated. They had something to play for, and maybe they underestimated the opposition like we did thought they were preoccupied with something that they were not. Let's move to baseball with a dodges are in whole. Owen to Freddy Freeman started the scoring last night with a home run as a brave sprinted out to a seven zero lead then held on to win eight seven. The dodgers hadn't lost back to back games in a month they're throwing Julio aureus against the Braves Kyle right tonight. Twenty you so confident that the dodgers who you have said repeatedly are the best team in baseball yes. I had truly come back. I have said that about the dodgers I believe that about the dodgers but if you use the word confident, no, I can't say I'm confident at this point, Freddy Freeman goes up there at the beginning games and blast one out and suddenly to braves are always leading dodgers are playing up if they can play catch up at all, they scored a bunch of runs last night late but they didn't win the game they're down to old at this point. If you ask me if I'm confident until you something that really impressed me last night from John smoltz whose terrific on TV before the dodgers said even scored and they were way down John smoltz said this they may not win this game. But if they can start scoring some runs, they may have some confidence for the next bunch of games, which may be exactly the way it's going to happen and I'll give all the credit for that. I am not personally confident. nope. Tony. I was busy yesterday out in the vast expanse behind me. You know what I was doing and I walked into a place with lots of TV's and it was seven nothing. And I just said. All right. Let's turn. Let's get the other games on this football on. There's baseball other than this on, and let's just just get away from this 'cause this is nothing and then I had to turn back and I watched the comeback and I was sort of I must admit that was rooting for the dodgers just to even I don't I don't have a team. Yeah. A Horse in this race, the series I wanted to close game close series. But Tony Sometimes I play the game. If I was still sports writer and I was in the locker room, what would I be asking and I want to ask guys who tell the truth and I might want to ask them on background you might not want to say it on the record but I want to know. Do, you feel that any part of this comeback will actually help you tomorrow moving forward. Now I don't know what the answer will be because Soda. You know we go to certain guys in the locker room for truth you go to some guys because they wanna to be show ponies on TV and radio a sound bites and in their podcasts and there's some guys are GonNa say to you what they believe and I don't know what the dodgers believe in their souls about those seven runs and getting really close and a chance to win that game. That's why you know I would use the word hopeful instead of confident, the dodgers will have curse you on maybe to pitch once but the braves are going to have freed and Anderson to pitch again innocent goes out there pitches four five innings and never gives up a run to braves haven't lost at all. They haven't lost that all in the playoffs. So obviously, dodgers have to they got to win four out of five. It's going to be hard to do but yes, I still think they're the best team but I, don't know that he's a win the series in the other baseball series Jose, altuve, they continued his throwing misery. Bounce throw to second base on a double play ball and Tampa ended up with five runs that inning Houston lost five to to to go down three. Oh. In that series, we'll buy we all know Houston cheated many people say now this is Karma. To say, in the Astros Tony I I don't know about Al to personally because I don't have a sense of him who he is what he stands for and what kind of guy he is I don't have a sense of altitude and to get my empathy, use the I. I got to know something about you. But I will say this watching that game and watching those catches that the Tampa Bay outfielders made Tony. They've made for three games now. Oh I. DO believe is Karma I do and I don't even know the generally speaking I believe. In Karma but I mean some of the rockets hit and some of the some of the blue balls that should fall in don't fall because guys catch them off the top blade of grass I just sit there going Oh my God, the Astros are getting exactly what they deserve here, and I must say Tony, I root for Dusty Baker. So I want dusty Baker to be separate and apart from that, but he can't be and as far as to I I don't know I think I leaned toward feel sorry for him but not for that team whole. So, let me get out to bay for a second because these numbers are interesting. This is completely out of the blue with him in forty seven career playoff games before this year one throwing error in the regular season this year zero throwing errors in the playoffs four, and in the last two games threes a former MVP. He's a terrific player I. don't go to Karma with this Mike I go Steve Sal Chuck Knoblauch. Maybe, he's got maybe this could be the end of a career. This guy might be able to put up hall of fame numbers that doesn't mean voters will let him in because of the cheating, but he was an MVP. Now if you can't throw these routine throws, you gotTa make them the Nats Ryan Zimmerman wasn't able to throw from third to first. So they moved him the first you can't move a five foot six inch guide to first base. You can't do that Al to base dot to be able to throw the ball and I do find myself having sympathy for him and I agree with you that the Karma is the batted balls did. Every single time every time rockets yes loops. Field should not be for Tampa Bay and I know they're good. Don't want to underestimate them Tony, and defensively, they appear to be the greatest thing ever for wow. If you who feels bad for Houston right now outside of the seven one three who feels bad for them. I'll just I'll just amplify the dusty. Baker thing good for him that he's going to play out to tonight. Good for him. Keep him out here. You have to do that. Let's take a break but coming up the jets released levy on. Dell. What does that say about them? And as Tony Larussa Tony Larussa. Really the number one choice to manage the white sox seven one, three Houston did I get that right I have to have gotten that right? I spent a lot of time in my life has got to be seven, one, three as opposed to. Three, which is the via DMV. GEICO presents monster. Counseling. Dracula tell me how you're feeling. No understands how known me these. No one will even let me into their house I knock knock but they ignoring me. What else I look in the Mirror Don't even see myself anymore if you don't see yourself clearly, can you really expect others to I'm having a breakthrough it's not easy to be a vampire but with gyco, it's super easy to switch and save hundreds on your car insurance. NAPA KNOW NAPA WE'VE TEAMED UP WITH AAA to save you twenty percent online or in store. That's why they call us the savings Dream Team. Okay. We're the only ones calling us that but it's true. Your AAA membership can save you twenty percent at Napa. So we're basically superheroes with the most specific power ever saving you twenty percent quality parts helpful people. That's NAPA. Know How know-how twenty percent off retail prices valid AAA membership card offer ends ten, thirty, one twenty. A. Time get verbally charismatic in my attic for what's the word word up what's I? The jets are playing for releasing lady on Comical I. Mean with the jets, there's only two reactions you can laugh or you. You can cry they're in a steel cage death match with Washington for the worst franchise in the NFL I don't even know why they wanted this guy to begin with. He's a team killer Antonio Brown S Pittsburgh if they're happy now that they're not there aren't they gave him twenty eight million dollars mighty. He played in eighteen games. He had four touchdowns and never gained one hundred yards in one game. So that's seven million touchdown they released apparently because he went on twitter and complained about the way he was used I what are we doing here? He stinks at this point Sam Darnold isn't any good Adam gays isn't any good the jets, our own five they are a clown show. Bro, and the great irony here is they are owned by. The heirs of Johnson and Johnson, and there's not a bandage big enough to help the New York jets. Thank you. For said, wing into my word there clownish that's what they are. It's cloud show. Bra It's a clown show every time Tony at every turn signing him because of who they are was clownish stupid trying to trade him and just sort of having a public in nobody wanting him. That's Clownish the coaching. Of Him was clownish, the releasing of him is clownish did the executive level of the New York jets? You know I used to be if you wanted to pick a franchise that sort of expressed, how just look sorry everything was used to be the clippers for like twenty five, thirty years it was a clippers. Now Tony it's the jet because I think they're all wrong lower than the Washington football club if that's possible. Let me. Tell you who's laughing right now Mike Tomlin's laugh and right now. You should be it's Blake Tony Larussa is reportedly the white sox number one choice to manage the team. It's the static. This is Bob Nightingale story in USA Today that Larussa might go back to where he started nineteen seventy-nine as you well know my first managerial job was with the white sox they fired a midway through nineteen eighty, six somehow Hawk Harrelson came down from the booth then became the GM and fired this guy got his record his record by the way was five, twenty, two, and five, ten in Chicago more good numbers since then the white sox have had eighteen losing seasons fifteen winning seasons, five times to the playoffs advanced once when they won the world series in two thousand five. Larussa do he won a world series in Oakland? He won two and Saint Louis He managed twenty five years nineteen winning season six losing thirteen playoffs and hello he's in the hall of fame. So I mean if Tony Larussa feels adequate to manage that's a good place for him to go back. Well Tony if it is I, don't know about this. This is about Jerry Reinsdorf because Jerry and. Then general manager role in him, and if you want to get a little historic brought Larussa and worked in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, three, the white sox I mean, we're just a great team. They did not win the world series that year but Tony Larussa had them go and very much in the right. Direction Hawk Harrelson as you mentioned comes in Kansas Jerry Reinsdorf his hated that and regretted that firing ever since. Tony this mackey in as in Connie Mack who was born in eighteen, sixty two and was still managing in like the nineteenth late forties early fifties. If those are the war years for you millennials out there says it happened it was no grande then you might wanna Google the civil war no, not the Vietnam War not world. War Two were one not the Spanish American war war the civil war Connie Mack was born. Larussa has like a suit and a hat like like an old to Connie mack look I, maybe it will work. If you're white sox fan you are very fun. It's still we're news uniform on Sunday afternoon games at home at least they wear those uniforms those Tony Larussa airily uniform. It's a very static time you're writing this algae. Lewis is still looks great by the way. Words on. Let's take one last break still to come our old to Derrick Henry, stiff on of your boy Josh Norman. And withstanding, Gundy, be the right coach for the Pelicans about that. What happened to use them? He's not in the Houston deal. Anymore is not be Jeff Van Gundy this just Antonio there are two. Accidents the that. But those two have sort of you know distinguish themselves in the NBA they're both good on television. GEICO PRESENTS MONSTER COUNSELING DRACULA. Tell me how you're feeling. No one understands how lonely these no one will even let me into their house I. Knock, but they ignore me. What else I look in the mirror? Don't even see symphony more if you don't see yourself clearly, can you really expect others to I'm having a breakthrough it's not easy to be a vampire, but with GYCO, it's super easy to switch and save hundreds on your car insurance. Happy Time Happy Twenty Sixth Birthday Jared Goff unlike, Dak Prescott Goth found the extension offered him by the rams to be just fine and he signed it for one hundred, ten million dollars in guarantees without having to be franchised goth was the overall number one pick by the rams out of cow in two thousand sixteen but he bumbled under Defensive Guy Jeff Fisher offencive Guy Sean mcvay took over GOP thrived. It was in the Super Bowl two, thousand eighteen, the rams were thirteen and three, and at thirty, two touchdown. Passes and twelve interceptions completed sixty five percent of his passes both golf and the team regressed last season his touchdowns went down to twenty two his interceptions up to eighteen is completion percentage and yards we're off and the team was nine and seven so far this season, the rams of foreign one gobs completing seventy one percent of his passes eight touchdowns three picks the yellow caution light is on though because all for those victories against the Putrid NFC east where no team has even at five hundred let alone above it. Tony. It's hard to have a great season. Jarod. Goff had a great season, but it's harder even to sustain that and have multiple great seasons because if you do and you sustain it even for decent of time since you on a trajectory to can't and I started watching Golfing Person At cal northwestern cal game and we actually intercepted golf. Important, stretch of the game to beat him in CAL at cow I've been watching it and root form since then and I hope he can sustain it. Happy Anniversary Francisco. Cabrera on this date twenty, eight years ago. The braves. Reserve Catcher at a two out two run pinch hit walk off knock in the ninth inning of game seven of the. To Send Atlanta to the world series instead of Pittsburgh Cabrera, hit a line drive off Stan Belinda on two one pitch that I scored David Justice with the tying run next for the agonizingly slow foot sits in Brim with a winning wrong sliding classically ahead of the throw from left fielder Barry Bonds to win the pennant. Amazingly, Cabrera had batted only ten times all season. So Bobby Cox must have felt something this was the end of the pirates three year run as division champs. Left for San Francisco, the pirates not have another winning season for twenty years. The braves went on a player Toronto in the world series they lost in six. This was the second of five world series they would go to under Bobby Cox. Tony is great as dramatic home runs are we talked about Mazeroski yesterday there was of course, Joe Carter. These home runs world series games to to to influence a win them as great as those are a play at the plate of Cla- slate slate is. Exciting. Then ball going yard in the world series to me anyway. Hundred percent sure. Happy Trails Josh Norman's dignity. The Buffalo cornerback was humiliated last night as he tried to tackle human tank Derrick Henry and got stiff armed into the dust of history. This is the equivalent of the butt fumble for a DB heavy sticks out his hand and brushes Norman assange like lint and Norman tumbles away not only did the Tennessee players on the sideline begin to toward Norman you can hear the TV announcers laughing for someone like me watch Norman. Basically steal seventy, five, million dollars from the Washington football team this feels like Karma Norman came to Washington from Carolina announcing he would become a big national star and left with a whimper least after four years in getting benched last season Norman made a big video deal out of going to Pamplona and running with the Bulls when he was supposedly recovering from injury as footage of him jumping over bolts. Great. He should've tried to jump Derrick Henry is embarrassing place wanted. Tony. As, much as I sort of used to laugh. Still, laugh about things involving Josh Henry is like Philip Rivers on the. Seem to be such Josh, Norman they seem to be such jerks but Tony There's a lot of evidence that says these guys to stand up men off the field and with you go into the communities in which they live and operate people have incredible testimonies about them and what they stand for and they stand up. So I don't know how I feel about Josh. Norman anymore. Quick Commission, the Pro Bowl was canceled. Saturday's Lsu Florida game has been postponed to Florida's virus outbreak very quick to finish still can't stand in Gundy met with the Pelicans on. Tuesday good fit. I think it'd be a great fit for Zion particularly. Yes. I'm rooting for that. Hal Steinbrenner. The Yankees fans are not coming close to the world series is that necessarily? Know, they got people are that are team that really did the athletic reports at the NBA is targeting January eighteenth starting seasons. That makes sense if that's the over under for the season's starting out, take like six weeks beyond that. Tony if that the over under the saints are reportedly talking to Lsu about play the battle ruse. If New Orleans, we'll live fans in the superdome your thoughts. The answer, all your questions is money. This is about concessions many. Tonight Carolina Number Twenty One Louisiana Clears the raging Cajun's it's about politics I got baseball on two screens bedfellows. 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The Dodgers Rout Their Way Back Into the Series. Plus: Houston Hangs on to Avoid a Sweep. | Baseball BBQ

The MLB Show

43:49 min | 3 months ago

The Dodgers Rout Their Way Back Into the Series. Plus: Houston Hangs on to Avoid a Sweep. | Baseball BBQ

"Hey Mlb show listeners. This is Jordan Shusterman one of the hosts of Baseball Barbecue, another baseball podcast here on the ringer podcast network, and you're going to be listening to one of our episodes here on this feed. If you enjoy it and you enjoy more baseball talk here at the Ringer we hope you go and subscribe follow us on spotify. US wherever you get your podcast and we hope you enjoyed this discussion about this wild wild postseason. Thanks. Hello and welcome the baseball barbecue the only podcast. On the ringer podcast network brave enough to ask about that tight pants I'm jake manse that's Shusterman Jordan. October rolls on. Yes Jake. Indeed although the actual reporter who was brave enough fast that that didn't go so well for. But I'm happy to be here recording another late night pod with you sir true honor and a privilege. Now. We've got both SEAR I. Continuing we've got Astros raised just played game four a minutes ago again back in the car late on. Wednesday night. Early Thursday morning. Braves dodgers was a blowout today. We're GONNA get into all of that and we're GONNA also get in to some tight pants. Okay Jake. Since we last spoke both of these championships theorize e I mean we're talking like. That's true. Believe are I know you? You might think like, wow, that's incredible. They don't speak of such amazing chemistry for never speaking between podcasts. No Jake and talk we taught. But speaking terms a lot has changed and we went into this evening. Wednesday evening with the possibility that one of the series was going to be over the Astros. Did manage to extend it. Of course, we're going to get to that game, but we want to start with the nationally and the dodgers and the braves, and we're GONNA catch you up, of course at least. A. Little bit on how serious got to where they are today, and then talk about the Games we watched tonight. So let's talk about the dodgers braves because this series we when we previewed it earlier this week, we talked about the neither of these teams lost in the postseason yet they were both coming in hot. We were wondering how the bridge we're GONNA look against the team much better than the marlins and the reds and the braves looked really frigging good for two days there MVP Freddy Freeman was amazing their too young starters Max freed Andy. Were spectacular and the dodgers offense until the ninth inning of Game Two did not look like the best offense in baseball at all they just look bad and I know part of that was global I feel being an absolute gigantic disaster for hitters always as we feared, but they just didn't look right. But then even though they lost the game, Jake, the end of game to it looks like a loss there was some life for talking about some great losses. Know, it's very important to lose purposefully in the postseason you WANNA be able to squeeze out as much bullpen juice as you possibly can whenever you possibly can. All the pressure counts at all times. Did the dodgers lose game to? Yes. Could they have one game to? Yes. Should they probably yeah but they lost it. But what happened in Game Two Paves the way for what happened tonight in game three and holy fucking shit eleven runs in the first inning. Just an incredible. Just eruption. Yeah offensive. Just. Oh, I have no words. It was a it was a volcano of just dodgers hitters looking like the hitter we've. We thought they were pretty much and again in the ninth inning, they have like the average like one, hundred, six miles an hour exit velocity and just barely came up short and they come in tonight as the road team, which I had a feeling was gonNA make a difference if they can just go up there against Kyle right making his you know his I guess. You've started against the Marlins, but that's a little bit easier than facing the dodgers and they just it was. It was an air raid. It was crazy and I want to bring Bobby Wagner in here our wonderful producer because I wanted to I I, you jake like, what was the experience the first thing and bobby you told me before we started recording you had an interesting experience with this I eleven running by the way the most runs scored in one inning by one team in the postseason. Yeah your boy had a busy day. You know I was trying to squeeze in some errands by errands I mean I was trying to walk the dog because that's the only thing that is your errand and I watched I watched the first couple runs I watched the first couple outs now's like, oh, dodgers got three runs. You know they got two outs I. believe that was that was the scenario right? They got two outs when they only had three runs. And I'm like good start for the dodgers offense. This is big. Let's see if they can protect this lead right now the kids ready to go she's asking the come out a Mike. All right. Take the dog out we walk the dog or back in no joke. Ten minutes, five minutes, seven minutes whatever you WanNa say I come back and I look back up. Eleven nothing. Eleven runs in one inning Justin eight runs in a dog walk I was GonNa say eight runs in the shake of a dog piss. That's all eleven runs in inning is a record but eight runs in one Bobby Wagner dog is big. Truly truly a hard to crack that Jake were you were you watching now again this started with the replay Mookie, Betts? Out An infield hit a two thirds as great play by Camargo Great? Play. By Freeman he just barely beats gonNA replay then. Okay. Movies on SEGER double boom. One nothing Turner ground out. Muncie grout. All Right Hey, hey, we got to we got to, and then as we love to do with the beginnings, let's just listens. Rallied US off here. Double Walk Homer homer walk walk single hit by Pitch Grand Fucking Slam. WILL SMITH STRIKE UP? A So we'll smith went for tuning This was ridiculous. What what was your experience? Did you watch this from from first pitch here before I was whipping up some dinner and I was making I made some salmon burgers tonight. So I was doing the part where you put the salmon in the blender and so I was I was in the food processor. So there was like a big. Like going on and so it was kind of drowning out. Some of the home runs right so. I would urge the salmon with shallots and then I would like look up with. Fish Cook on my hands and it'd be like, Hey, now it's six zero. That's cool. Right. So Jordan wha-wha-what Mundane household thing did you do while? I was sitting on the couch with my brother. We turn the game on We were just we're watching something and maybe me. Turns it over okay boom were you know jock hits a home around like Oh my God this is crazy. This is going nuts wall I'm like trying to find the clip of US talking on instagram about how they were gonNA score six runs in the first inning editorials heads another homer. I look I. See Rios giving a high five and I'm like wait was he giving jump Houston Hi-fi because drug peace not only he? Hit another home run and then I was it was hysteria and then suddenly five minutes later backs Muncie. It's a Grand Slam. It just kind of devolved into total. Okay. So you didn't dust the shelves or fat I was ordering I was I was ordering dinner I was putting in order for my brother to go pick up by the yeah. That's what I accomplished during the dodgers Levin run historic. Hey, to the listeners. Of Baseball Barbecue. If you're still here, let us know on twitter. What were you doing? I did tweet this where were you when the dodgers ninety, nine, zero it did not end up being ninety zero but still let us know you're up to and I'll. I'll I'll say Jordan like they scored eleven runs. and. I put some music on and like checked out of the game, we were basically killing time before Astros, race started. Now they were fifteen to nothing after the top of the third, and then they had like one hit for the rest of the game they subbed out most of their starters in the braves were, of course, it was swing early whatever which is fine. That's what you expect and thank you because thank you to the dodgers haters for not piling on for the sake of this game not being any longer than four hours and fifteen minutes, which is what it was. But yeah I mean it was It was it was a bludgeoning. It was exactly what we WANNA see if you're a dodgers fan and sets them up quite nicely because something we did mention earlier they lost Clayton Kershaw game toback bathrooms that they seem like they actually knew sort of. Baby going to be an issue I know we woke up the day of game to and found out that he was missing. It was like Oh shit clean kershaw. was ready for this sounds like they kind of knew. The kershaw was having some issues now they're heading into game four. With kershaw against Bryce Wilson who has like forty major league innings and the dodgers look like they're a great spot again so it can happen pretty quickly. Can you imagine a lifestyle a lifestyle where? Whether or not you work on a particular day. Is Determined by your buddies back like how he? Like if she gets out of bed and he feels like shit like you have to go to work and if you feel good then like you're you're chilling, you know you just do a little running and share the Dugout Baseball's a weird sport. I think we have to do your job on national TV What a weird what worries? Okay, we got game for tomorrow like you said, I the dodgers like set up. Pretty good. I would take them in game four and then we'll have we ourselves a series. I mean I think the Houston Tampa one will be over relatively soon probably in game five and I hope that the dodgers one goes seven. So we have entertainment up until the world. Series Quick to quick sear is never fun look braves going up to will make me feel great about my dodgers in seven pick but we'll see I mean like you said I gotTa feel great about the dodgers in game four two other things we have to cover in this series before we move onto the American league one is. Let's give the braves from a little bit more love here because I, know they just got completely. One. But like they are winning the series and they are I know Kyle right got ambushed but like they're they're playing very well, Freddie frame looks amazing and the obvious to mark Melanson homers in both games were tremendous moments and just like a great wonderful baseball thing that. Happens once the season ended of course happens two nights in a row. So I have to give a half themselves that the one disappointment I'd say for them so far has been a Kunia who is not really a look I know he's really done a thing quite yet Freddy Freeman has done multiple things, but he's been good. He's been fine. Buddy is not yeah and I would say I would say that's when he of course, he gets pulled tonight because they were down by fifteen. So I. Understand that and other x factor with len is that they lost. You've all now we've got Pasha Christian Pasha their top prospect who hit his first career home run tonight seventh guy ever to hit his first career homer in the postseason tonight which is pretty cool but and he's going to be playing I mean he's playing center over Kunia, and that's because he's like one of the best defenders in the world also. You could convince me that he should be out there. Anyway probably over Marcus and. Oh I'm glad you brought this up. Can we can we reflect on again the the to pig parts of the braves these which is big marcus ops out because Freddy Freeman has like terrifying levels of covid he where he's like in his bed with like one hundred, five degree fever and he's like, yeah, I talked to Freddie Freeman that really scared me I'm going to stay home. Remember that happens that happens he says that then mark is like. Oh wait pretty premiums back in the braves. Really good. Never Mind I'm actually going to back in for Nick, diggers comes back remember you hit that walk off home run like the day he got back to. Your man come on sure like I. Don't remember when it was when it was reported that he was coming back. We were like wait they can opt back in like I, don't think we none of us rely was even allowed and then honestly three on since then he's been back like he just he hasn't really helped the middle. So I agree with you I certainly rather watch. So. Anyway. Last thing we used to talk about Jordan, our pants. Oh. We have a pencil which pans what what level of Pantley war what type of pants are we talking about the everyone is actually talking about the tight pants because someone had tight pants on for those of you unaware. Walker bueller dodger's starter had some very tight pants in game one the world series we have seen tight pants before we are not strangers to tight pants. Justin verlander has always worn tight pants. Kika says has been known to dawn pants of a certain tightness. However, Walker Buehler's pants looked tighter. Way that they looked like an error they looked as if someone had made a mistake in the distribution or a-, maybe the drying of these particular pair of pants. And it became a thing on twitter. Everyone was talking about the pants because that's how this life works now and Hell Yeah let's talk about. But's that's fine. Daughters, I tweet someone dropped me zoom link during the. Game. It was like when it was tied, it was like Lemme Lemme the zoom link I'll ask about this. Dodgers loose devastating braves rally in the in the night. Then in Zoom Link reporter asks Walker Bueller about his fucking pants now. This is tough. Right this is what's so stupid about this right? Is that like? Sorry and and then Walker Bueller just this this guy will play the clip quickly right here. Another time or place Michael. All right. So here's what Stop Right I obviously IMP- row asking Walker bueller about his pants. Now, I am pro asking Walker bueller about his pants if they win. Because if they win if they win the game and you're like Walker, you were wearing tight pants he's probably going to be in a good mood and he's going to be like. Yeah you know like the guy a little mix up and but I guess they worked out because we win the game and it's like a fun moment for everybody. But like you just have to have a level of field to know that walkers not in the fucking mood right? Just not the fucking mood and. Not The time replace and and listen he's right. Now. Was it more the time? The place it was definitely definitely is. The only place there's no time you're going to talk to talk but definitely, not the time of course, it's hilarious because he should should've said not the time or the score. Also. Here's the other thing about this. Race. Is that he he then walks off. Now obviously usually when the pitcher or losing pitcher, it's going to be short interview. He's already not going to be happy you're not gonNA hip narrow day but like I also like to think that there were probably other reporters in there with like actual gouaches. Enormous. Blister. Like, note got lasko pants. All right now although we have mentioned this because. Okay. So while we agree like, yes, I mean we support asking more interesting questions on Zuber's yes. But this is as Jake says tremendous lack of field however. One Mr Andy Martino who is not known for the best takes. decided to quote tweet this video Walker Bueller with this, which is I. Just I? Actually, not. Basically. Preview this to me being weird bobby decided that I'm excited to read this to you. There was a teaser trailer of this twists and this is Andy's take. On this on this Marco Cancer, he says. This question absolutely had to be asked by the way. Would have been an indictment on all reporters present if it hadn't, it sucks to do it after a loss, but it was still part of the story Buehler's answer is incorrect though his emotional state is understandable. Okay Hello. We're getting an indictment on all reporters present if it hadn't been asked. This is implying Andy's basically deciding that the tight pants were the reason that Walker Beulah struggled and lost. That's pretty much like listen. That's clearly why he was getting hit around was because of the type so I had to ask it. That's just me being a journalist. Okay. So hold up. Now. I'm going to take a journey into Andy Martinez brain like the Jimmy, neutron intro? Yes. Into Raynham threw it into the crane. If. He believes that the tightness of the pants played a role in Buehler's ineffectiveness which doesn't make sense because he was pretty good. Right then does it the question need to be framed in that manner exactly orders xactly or to be like a just enquiry bobby bobby what are? Your thoughts on this I. So many thoughts go ahead first of all. If that were the case and the reporter meant to ask a follow-up or a second claus of the question Walker biller him off. So the world may never know how many licks does he take to get deserve a touchy Bob. Number two. I'm so glad that I went to journalism school so that I could get funny tweets off about journalism ethics on twitter. My tens of thousands of dollars student loans are laughing. Laughing along with me as I make these jokes on twitter about how this guy knew the task, the question I think Jake's point is so spot on because I don't know if Andy Martino was in zoom. Okay. But two thoughts come to mind one is that the idea that Andy Martino was in the zoom with his stern reporter face on and when this person asked. Thank goodness someone brought this up. or or but if you wasn't I really you're telling me if you were in the zoo Mandy, you would have been walker you seem to be struggling and it was clearly because your pants were too tight. Is that correct? What can I say, something Yes Let's say, Walker Buehler's shoe was clearly broken right? That like there was a like a flap hanging off his shoe and it was getting caught on every pitch right? You would have to ask the shoe. You're right that's true. Walker was fine though Walker was fine. So do you think Andy thinks walkers pants distracted walkers teammates Oh. Or counterpoint do you think that Walker took one of his teammates pants and his teammates were wearing the wrong pins like he was wearing or it affected his teammates? This one's happened to me in college actually switched numbers with a guy who is six four and was just drowning in pants. Were tight So I I like the implication Mrs Dance Trending on twitter I liked the idea that Jake McGee or like. Flake trying like comes into this game and it's like a big spot and his head is elsewhere. It's just thinking about Walker Buehler's shaping ass in his baseball lululemon apparel and he gives up a homer due to a lack of focus frankly selfish frankly selfish by. Thinking of the team is so amazing is so and so in conclusion. I also just love the other best part of this is euler answer is incorrect saying that it's not the timer, the blinds, which again will give you andy that it was the place but definitely, not the time not the time here's okay I can't go. Okay we're no more no more. We've done dot pants chat. There's actually two other baseball teams playing. Yes. So let's let's transition here. Let's move over to the eventually I'm sure the raising ads like, yes, this is. There's more baseball talk about sorry pants coast bias or sorry. It would have been an indictment on this podcast. Had We not just this tweet? The did the discourse about. Pants Gate in. All right, let's move on to the American League Championship series, which currently sets three to one in favor of the Tampa Bay rays. when we last spoke to you here on Baseball Barbecue game one had been completed and the rays were up nothing they proceeded to go up three Oh with a combination of randy arose arena continuing to be the greatest player. We've ever seen some of the most unbelievable defense and positioning, which let me just make a note here. Yes they are making all the plays but like they are in the right fucking spot every time it's unrein believable and their plays that the Astros who I'm sure have all the fancy position to are not making because their guys are non the right spot and it's just unbelievable to watch. The raise defense has been obviously the story of this Series so far we've had I would also say other factors include incredible batted ball. Luck that has benefited Tampa over Houston a number of different examples of that I would say Tampa's bullpen has just been exactly what we expected it to be and that Tampa, was able to win game three due to a lack of experience in-depth in Houston. Bullpen. Houston got three. Like. People always say, Hey, you get that start from insert pitcher here you take it every time and the Astros got back to back to back take it every time starts from Fromberg Valdez. Lance mccullers and Jose or Keady. and. They lost all three games and then today. Came and gave them a you take it every time start. And they actually won the game. They did actually win the game they finally us, Christian, Havi Air who is awesome and I hope off people know his name by the end of this postseason matter how much further extras make it but yeah, tonight tonight was an interesting one it it had its moments the raise made it interesting again at the end there Presley I just have no like I. Know Harvest Pitch is getting up but I was like. Leave him in like I have no faith impressive whatsoever but they're the astros survive another day but Alex Alex Presley. Jesus Christ who says more this is the second time this week you said Alex Presley and I just want to remind everyone at Alex. Presley I don't know how he made such a strong impression on you on the two thousand fourteen and fifteen astros but those ninety seven games and six twenty, five p. s. clearly just you know still your heart and you just want to keep remembering him. So Ryan Presley Ryan Presley. Induces more. What the hell are you swinging at remarks from fan then really anyway. He doesn't induce. Notably. More swings and misses than say like a, you know an elite love like Nick Anderson but the pitches that people swing out from Presley when they're working are they they're insane like there's like forty feet to the mound like. It's like a cricket pitch. You know. It's really really nuts and the raise they almost got to him. You know three more feet up in the air, and like this podcast would be recording two hours later because the Williams ball goes over the fence right and I mean the Willie play like I don't blame Willie for thinking it was out. Although I will say, we didn't get a definitive replay on how hard hustling. You could say if that was a triple, the next pitch was a wild pitch maybe he scores housing there whatever the point is. No I don't. Know I I'm just striking that from the record okay I. Think he could have had a triple who's bussing on the box I'm not blaming really I also thought it was gone saying as soon as he got the second and he looked on his face like ash, it should be on three next while Pitt whatever doesn't matter the Razor Still GonNa win series point is is that the Astros survive and let's talk about the ashes a little bit for what's been going well for them because you mentioned starting. Pitching has been great and it's barely worth. They're still down three one and we'll talk about why they're going into tomorrow extremely underdogs what Jose Altuve who I know had about with the we're not GonNa talk about that 'cause I'm sure he's fine. It was a few bad throws that ended up having terrible results after the fact, and that's why I was magnified but altuve and springer man they are destroying the ball at the plate and that is keeping Astros and his games more than any defensive miscues. And it's very impressive. It's it's an important reminder. Did the astor's cheat? Yes. Did they have good baseball players anyway absolutely and? You know we talked about this before he recorded but I have this working unproven theory that the cheating stuff like the trash can bang specifically helps. Your down order guys more. Like obviously obviously like. Download our guys getting a base helps guys later like back at the top etc etc but like. I don't know like I. Just watching springer and altoona in this postseason. Is just a reminder that like they are good at hitting at baseball, right? Like that is an indisputable fact. But I will say that you springer was was great season two they was back. He was tear to his bat and when I would watch him in the regular season like I was like Jesus Christ like I don't care whether this is you know Whether this is cheating related not like he was amazing last year fine. But like as we saw with Dustin Pedroia, like it can go very quickly for a player like his we can right and I'm not saying I was convinced after forty eight games that he played or whatever But I, was not feeling great about Jose altuve coming into this postseason at all just forget. He and on believable and like you said like, right he's still an amazing baseball player. So you gotta give them credit for that because he's he's very much keeping them in in I'll tell you this. No one's banging trash can because we would definitely be able to hear it. Yes absolutely. Okay. Let's let's look ahead here because the razor show up three one and as you mentioned earlier, you still feel very good about this. Ending, pretty quickly because as we saw with the DS against the Yankees when they lost game four, it was like Yep no problem like we feel great like we have our whole do our whole staff is going to be ready for tomorrow we are great loss. We use three dudes that are not going to rely on the big important game that we're trying to win Amara and same thing to throw some freshmen. Astros are going to be throwing I mean again, the only pictures that have not pitched for them on the roster are chased young, who again was in India both two. MONTHS AGO and Luiz Garcia another rookie who has never pitched above able after that I mean they dusty already said after the game that it's not going to be from Orlands on short rest the raise could go snell on short respite. I don't know why they would bother when they had the whole bullpen fresh and they clearly can do the best bullpen game in the League. So I assume the raizal bullpen it with like Fleming, and mcclanahan and Casio, and you know Anderson Whatever but it's such a huge advantage to Tampa because Houston just has not arms to go tomorrow. You know if you sin is able to score some runs early, it'll be interesting to see how Kevin? Cash. Chooses to play it because there is a thought that's like. You if you go down like three Oh early. Do you hold your able pen back so that for game six smell on the mound, you have all the horses in the stable ready to go. Instead of trying to go halfway with it, it'll be interesting to see just how that plays out. Yeah. That's true although you know were if they lose somehow then they'll have snow on full rest and then. If it gets the seven Charlie wanted for like it's still heavily heavily tilted in Tampa's favor just because the pitching So yeah but I mean again, like we I when they went up three Oh like it's not like the Astros haven't played. Well, it really isn't and so we can't be shocked when they win this game and we can't be shocked if they somehow continue to extend the series but I don't think especially like we saw with the dodgers game to like I think it'd probably helps to have that rally again happened in the ninth. And I. Think Tampa just looks great and I don't think this will slow them down at all. So if the Astros do win, that would be on Saturday night and we will do an emergency astros Saturday night. Two Thousand and four Red Sox. Could you imagine owning the owning to Red Sox fans with this astros team being the second. To ever do it all that fires me up. Sorry. Okay. Jordan. That's it for the postseason you mean. You definitely, you mean, Yankees fans. No. I mean astro red. SOx Fans. I'm talking about the two thousand and four Red Sox are the only team to come back from being down three zero right. It was an if the Astros do this right they will be the second team right and I feel like Red Sox fans take immense pride. Oh The only team who's ever done that and therefore they'd be like, damn it the Astros. That's fair. That's fair and I like the idea of the Astros then sticking it to the Yankees, the rays and the red sox in one swoop. Yeah. I will say though from where we sit like again we react so quickly with these games and like yesterday. And you know certainly before that dodgers comeback in game two people were just like, oh, Jesus Reyes braves like this is not what anyone would want to see like I mean we would love eight. It's awesome. Baseball too great teams whatever. But like. We're right back here and these are too serious that could continue to go on again. We feel pretty good about Tampa ending is pretty fast but like the dodgers are integrate spot and that would not be surprised at all to see them continue to walk. Are At jake we wanted to talk about one more thing before we get out of here because. We have time here. This podcast is in too long and we have some other baseball news going on. I know that we should really only be carrying about these four teams in the postseason, but we have a little bit of manager hot seat. I. Hot hotseat already opened just manager open vacant see and there's some spicy rumors already swirling specifically about Chicago White. SOx. As we sit here, there are three jobs that are currently opened the Red Sox, the white sox and the Detroit Tigers head into twenty twenty one doesn't look as. Loose socks and he blue socks I believe. Yeah I think they I'm not sure. They said they have manny. Ramirez isn't going down there. Pretty dramatically in the okay anyway. Let's talk about this for a bit because the white sox job seems like a whole lot of fun. Now, I know where we don't have to make it. We don't have to review why. Just let's move. Let's look forward here. Okay. The White Sox very fun. We've talked about them a lot this year you know the kind of flamed out early, but it's still so much talent and such fun group of players that you would want to manage. Now, the rumors immediately like within minutes of the news that renteria came out was at the white sox are looking for. A manager with championship experience from outside the organization it should be noted Rick Hahn I believe said that yes. So if you eat championship experience outside the organization and the two thousand and eighteen and two thousand, seventeen world series winning managers are both available for hire after the cheating scandal and and you know Alex Cora Aj hinch that's GonNa come up. That is if you say that people are going to talk about it and so shouldn't be surprised right before. We talk about Alex Cora I WanNa do, WanNa bring up. Tony Larussa Tony Larussa name has been banned read a about in the white sox rumors if the White Sox Tony Larussa as their manager I will walk from New York to Chicago. I will walk it with my fucking legs I will do it will raise money for charity like you know people do this all the time they try and find themselves. I feel pretty found I just am. I there's no way no way. The White Sox will hire seventy, six year old Tony Larussa and all of his cats if they hire him to be like a special advisor that doesn't count, he has to be the big league manager and I'll walk Chicago Jake I just want to let you know I'm not one of those ringer producers that's GonNa let you go back on this bullshit like I'm not gonna let Johnny Kwok, clete this shit this audio is forever it will live with your boy on on the Internet forever you're Gossiping who the Windy City the winter is coming up by the way he didn't say. No. I I know that. He's just jake hold on why are you saying I? mean I understand. But if you could explain you just like state of this, why are you feel so passionately about this? Okay. Well, he's seventy six toilets seventy six and we have this old school new school dichotomy going on in the baseball world right now but Tony Larussa is so. Like old school in a way that we can't really comprehend anymore like dusty. Baker being the manager of the Astros is pretty wild. But like dusty has like a general understanding, I think of advanced metrics and you know how to implement them in some sort of way or else Astra's winning a hired him. and to me Tony Larussa. It just. man. I. Just Yup now and in and the other point last point that him being the manager of that team is SORTA particularly bad fit for me where it's this like young exciting like bosterous Enga-, like they exude like energy and joy and I just can't imagine Tony Larussa being the manager of that team I mean I agree I certainly cannot fathom it and part of me feels like so he's currently in the Angels Office and had to get presence why came out because he got permission for the interview for this. So I don't even think we realized that he still wanted to manage, of course. He got permission from the angels. Yeah. So is this Say. We didn't say. Is this like. Me Getting. Permission from. My girlfriend to like go on a date with a supermodel who I've never talked to. Tony Larussa with angels. He has one of those like I've been baseball forever. I'm probably making like six hundred k. to basically just answer the phone when the GM who just got fired calls me and says, Hey, do you think we should do this? is like sure boom cash it that's one of the best jobs at baseball if you're a seventy six year old baseball lifer so it's a pretty this is pretty cushy get yeah and I should point out. Tony Larussa. Does is like a hall of fame manager and House like insane amount of win with the wants to bring up is that he managed of course we lost some winning the world series with twenty seven cardinals. And then we assumed like, right dude, you're sixty six like you're done managing. Great. Okay. Bye. All right. We don't have to think about we thought he would want to hop this job or any job any manager so that is kind of weird that said. Let's get back to Incheon corier. Okay. Because that's the the real spicer unless just move Larussa to the side part of me feels like that's getting out there so that I don't know how white sox fans feel about maybe hiring Hendrick Corre I'd be very curious about that. Actually let us know because I I I really WanNa know how about that boy almost feels like it'd be like, oh woods. Okay. We'll hire the guys that got banned for cheating way than Tony Laruso. Which we agree. But you think that that would be that like Corey, you go hired core like you. I I yeah. I would yeah. So I. I. It's tough. Right because on one hand like. You don't want reward people for breaking the rules. And like that's what you're doing if you hire them right and like that is essentially a exhibiting like it is okay to transgress. If then you are rewarded on the road for it on the other hand, do I think Alex? Cora is the best manager available. I. I do one hundred percent like I think he is super good. I think he's great relationships with his players. I think he exudes confidence in the postseason, which is such a like. Under I know you can't quantify that etc. but talking about Aaron Boone like it matters and when they made their run in two thousand eighteen, he was unflappable. He never flapped and never flopped never flap not once and yes, you know it's a huge gray area and I don't want to be the person who has to make that decision. But I think Alex Cora is the best baseball manager available. Now, if the white sox determined that all that comes with hiring him is not worth the calculus and I totally understand that decision I. think there's a good chance. You're right that he is the best option and hiring him would be a smart move i. also think that like it's just kind of a weird look when like. That's how you go about like there's no search. There's another I mean we just so many. Candidates of all, there will. There be a surge there. I'm not saying they should pick up the phone like bring him in tomorrow but right that said though I think we talked about this a couple of days ago but. I do like the idea of war that hinch or Corre goes to the Tigers that feels more like probation. Right I think is the word us where it's like you get to manage again but you don't get to immediately go to a team that is a division contender like you gotta go manage some swap. You know that all link do some time and go manage tigers and you know hinch hinch managed. You know he was managing the Astros at buffet at the very beginning I. mean he he of course, his first year was two thousand fifteen and they were winning team. So he wasn't really there when they're really rebuilding so. Let's go. Let's go through that. Let's say you deal with that Aj hinch like that's the thing if hints your core to the Tigers job. And they're they're. They'll get hired and people will be mad for like a week and then it'll be like. Wait the Tigers are not going to be that. Good. Like whatever by the way and then it will fade away. But if they take the white sox job at this story, the whole year, right by the way just saying that as a basically as it would be funnier because ball reports, they already have other candidates. They're already looking at a few names so like I don't think. It's going to Detroit I'm just saying it makes more sense if we're looking for managerial justice or whatever that sort of its own vegas last one I would make on this is that if the white sox really want Alex Cora, they might have to get him from the team that already had the red sox who rumored also maybe one in back. So I I and I don't know if Alex Cora if it was completely even Is GonNa pick the white socks over there. I don't know that'd be that'd be very interesting. Maybe we'll find all this conversations like also extra the extra layer to it as right baseball has this tendency to just do musical chairs with the people who have done the jobs before exactly, which is a problem. Let us a whole number of ways and how you end up with such an overwhelmingly white. Older demographic of guys who have been managers in baseball history and like rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic like. Doesn't necessarily do anything and that's why I do have like some general reservations about the idea of just going back to the guys who've done it before where you have candidates Hensley Mule who deserve a look and deserve gig. But I also think. Alex Hinton core. I don't want to get into differences between the two of them but I'm just a big Alex Cora is good at that job believer sure I'm with you on that and. I'm I'm curious to see how quickly this gets resolved because there's nothing stopping them from hiring him tomorrow like they can go do that. So No, I think there is actually I don't think so I don't think you're allowed to announce mosier transactions during the world series. Recently, people have been high but you you might be right be close enough to the end, and of course, maybe they are doing an actual search and whatnot doesn't his band technically stay in effect through the world series this year isn't that the GIG Rob might be a little upset if they announced. That would be incredible if they somehow made through all the hoops to then do that and. Then they're like wait. Oh. Right. You're still banned press conference not sell DOVE MEMBER FOR ST. That'd be so funny. Anyway So yeah, we'll see I mean again, we just wanted to mention it because manager stuff is usually spicy and this. Spicy. Okay. So then I guess the things we need to know from you, the listeners are. Your thoughts on the tight pants situation send that in White Sox fans like how you guys feeling. And That's it. That's all I got Jordan. That's it. For today. Today's tonight's show. Thank you minutes. Thank you. Bobby Wagner for your contributions to the show and for producing it and making it for you find listeners to enjoy it. Thank you to Jake's car for serving as the studio once again, and when we talk to you next, you just honk you get that beep. I? Heard that when we talk to you next. We will We'll have a world series to look forward to. So that's I very much looking forward to finding out what that is. That's pretty cool I. Realize I'm a total dickhead for beeping it like twelve, forty, five in the morning I, Dow is not cool and I. Have a good weekend Enjoy the baseball and may randy arose arena continued to rick tobacco. Thanks again for listening. MLB show listeners again, if you enjoyed that, you can listen to me, Jordan Shusterman and Jake Mints on. Baseball. Barbecue follow on spotify. We put out new episodes, every Monday and Thursday, and we look forward to our next one as the world series rapidly approaches. 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10/29/2020 - Best of The Odd Couple

The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker

36:04 min | 3 months ago

10/29/2020 - Best of The Odd Couple

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Sports Radio Find Your local station for the odd couple at Fox sports radio DOT COM or stream it live every day on the iheartradio APP by searching F R. Party, you're listening to Fox sports radio. Interesting story today. Cuyler Murray who's having a nice look. We this Martin Weiss. And Kala Murray is not going to be the MVP a nine. You know we'll have to apologize Martin Weiss while those. Comments but. Yeah I mean he's he's he's down a bit, but he's having a great year and surprisingly Arizona cardinals are two at five and two still relatively early but they're playing good football obviously coming off the win over. Russell. Wilson and the Seattle seahawks and Murray was great. He did an article. There was a story on the day in USA Today interviewed him. And he said I want to be the best to ever play the game. Now. He didn't say it in a braggadocious way nothing arrogant. But just that's the goal and I'm fine with that. Do you have a problem with a guy saying that I just don't I mean I. Think Everybody wants to be the best that they can be I just I don't look at that as. I don't know if you have to say it or out loud or somebody just think every who doesn't want to be the best don't you WanNa be the best. Radio Guy or TV analysts, Chris or writer that you could be or like one of the best ones ever I think we all want that. I. Think you have to I'm with you. As I said, I got no issue with it I don't think go and proclaim that to do it I just that's inside everybody been around Lebron. At times where he's told me, he wants to be the best player ever in this goes back a few years. and. You know I I got no issue with that. I do think though rob only only guys at a certain level can say that I'm GonNa be honest. I don't know what the future holds maybe. God's got some grand incredible plan for me and radio broadcasting I know he's got a plan for me in live. But maybe as like this huge thing radio broadcast, maybe you'll take over rush limbaugh one disc. Would never I would not say I want to be the best radio broadcaster ever 'cause I don't think that's within my reach. Okay. Now, like I said if Gaga special play where it is in my reached great and if I rise and rise and rise and rise to where I think is actually in my reach their maybe I would say something like that but I think you Ryan Tannehill can't come out and say I want to be the best quarterback WANNA walk he's not he doesn't have that ability but but what if any I'm just but what if what if he? To be great but he like. I think there's only a handful of guys that can say, I. Want to be the best every if Kyle coups McCain and said I wanna be the best basketball player ever I. WanNa be one day well, but debt but look anyway ways. Yeah. But but if that's where he burns internally and that's what motivate I'm just saying anybody who's playing on that level can say they want to be the greatest whoever play that doesn't mean you're GonNa get there. That's all. It ability. Lucia last year and they know it too. But all right but also. David. Car. You know the NFL dot com analyst obviously former quarterback as well. He said he listed yesterday a couple of days ago. His. Top quarterbacks under twenty five years old if he had to build a team around. As, somewhat surprising the. Jar me a little when I saw the list he had Karl Murray Number One, Lamar Jackson number two. And the more I thought about it though rob the more I kind of analyzed it myself. I gotta be honest now I think at this stage probably say Lamar's better I mean he did what he did coming off what he did last year. But if I could choose one. To be my quarterback going forward. I honestly would take collar Murray and they'll slight Lamar maybe some people will maybe you'll think is a slight crews. Say Not a slight guy. He's not great but I would take cuyler Murray. You would take an undersized shorter. Doug Flutie and where it looks not. Louis Carla Murray is a fantastic undersized. Fantastic. Talent I'm not I'm not. Taking anything away from him. But but to really to to put them on top of a guy who was a unanimous Mvp League, won twelve games in a row go look at the wreckage and the. Carnage that he left a he was unstoppable. He was the most unbelievable thing we had seen in the NFL and and all they've done in the last two years in the La- is one. Eighteen out of nineteen games and have one big game and they lost to the chiefs and all of a sudden he's underneath Kyla Murray who's under five hundred career wise and I get it. They're five and two and coming off a game against a terrible Seattle defense which has given up five hundred yards. So almost everybody and I'm not knocking him but to bring it off that game against that defense, I'm sorry I often I ju I'm talking about the writer that's what is coming off. Of A. Game against terrible defense the same way I look at Baker Mayfield you could bludgeon the bengals. All you want you comparing I'm talking about the people were trying to, crown? Baker Chris After that game up, that's all. Now you go ahead of Kyla Murray goals and does that against one of the best defenses in the league and puts up five hundred yards I'm going to take notice I'm just saying the disrespectful Lamar Jackson ridiculous how you haven't seen this guy that I got it he. Won The playoffs year he ain't. been. In the playoffs. He has one in the playoffs. No I got I said that I saw. One I, mean obviously this is Colin Murray second year. He doesn't have as good of a supporting cast as. Lamar. Jackson has. He's on pace rob. You mentioned it the unanimous MVP last year and he was tremendous and he deserved it but just because you're the unanimous. MVP. Steph curry was the unanimous. MVP At me. He's like the best thing we've ever seen now at the quarterback position we never saw guy do that when they went through twelve in a row and Be More them saying that's all I'm saying is that is that it's mind boggling to me that you could play somebody above him. Way In one in MVP I'm just I'm just saying Thailand VP Murray I'll look at the winds. I don't know who they beat they beat Seattle I'll give you that and defenses pouring and rich gannon running mvp you can't that can't be your argument was MVP no, that's not my argument is that I just told you what it was. It wasn't. Just, that he was a unanimous MVP on a great team that won twelve games in a row and slew the league they went through all the good teams they didn't beat also rans they were unbelievable winning by double digits every new what happened in the playoff they lost that's okay. Carla Murray hasn't been. He's the guy he hadn't even been to the playoffs. To the playoffs the first year Chris. Here's why would take collar Murray. He. Run Lamar runs better. I'd never seen a quarterback I think everybody would agree with that. Lamar is a better runner but collars very good run. And he's not Lamar running it, but he's very good himself, but he is a much better passer. Lamar still is throwing consistently outside the numbers. And maybe you'll improve on that and get better he's improved a lot of other things. But that is why I would take cuyler because he is better passer then Lamar and as far as size I mean like I said, they're both under-sized. And I think is a little stockier. and. So I'm not really I'm not. I'm certainly not more concerned about him getting hurt than I am about Lamar Lamar is not having near the year last this year that he had last year impart because he's not. Running the ball as much, which is maybe good for as long term career but because he's not an awesome passer yet. It's hurting his production. He's not running nearly as much as last year. And cuyler Murray is great as Lamar was last year rob and his numbers were outstanding. Cuyler. Murray. is on pace to have a much better year statistically. Lamar last year through. Does it wake nerdy one let let me make my argument Lamar. Through for thirty, one, hundred, twenty, seven yards last year, cuyler Murray's on pace to throw four more than almost eleven hundred more yards than Lamar through four lashes. Lamar completed sixty six percent collar completed sixty seven percent Lamar rushed for twelve hundred, six yards collars rush for nine is on pace to rush for ninety nine. So he's GonNa be like two hundred, seven yards short of what Lamar Day rushing but again, eleven hundred more yards passing and keiler is on pace. To have sixteen rushing touchdowns. Lamar had seven last year. Now Lamar thirty six TD's colleagues on pace to throw for thirty. But he is I would say all told. Those numbers by Murray are going to be if he continues on his pace will be better than the season Lamar hat last year, and the fact that he's got that same five in two. And is that nearly defense there Baltimore has I like I said I even started this by saying right now I'm fine. What you say Lamar's better I, got no issues with that right now. But if I had to pick one of the two to build my team around. I would go with Murray. I would go with Murray. I. Think over the long haul, he will be better and more productive. Be Sure to catch live editions of the odd couple with Chris Broussard and rob. Parker Weekdays at seven. PM. 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Know I wrote a column before this went down for deadspin that I was against it, and then today Chris we hear the news well, that news being that the Chicago White, SOx have hired Tony Larussa. As. Their new manager seventy, six year old Tony Larussa he becomes. The oldest manager in the majors by five years. and. He's only the second manager in Major, League Baseball history to take over a team as seventy five years or older. Jack mckeon be the other. He was eighty rods. which is just that just sounds crazy. I mean I guess he was in great shape, but he was eighty two over tomorrow as they wear forty and fifty. and His old job because out and there was an old joke about I'm not going to give you the punchline. An old joke about his nickname was trader Jack Right. Jack mckeon. Eddie was eighty years old and the old joke was like he's so old that Guess what they were trading back. There wasn't ball players. You know like how long he's I think I know where you were. Saying I got my views on this hiring, but we want to hear yours I. I think this is totally ridiculous living in the past you've got this young swag filled team Chris with the white sox they made it to the playoffs. They did lose to the as but they have a bright future and a Lotta. Great Young guys there and I just see a disconnect. This is like. An old crutch and Tony Larussa was in the front office with the angels. He retired on his own terms Chris. He won a world series and say Louis last one retired right after that got into the hall of fame to the Veterans Committee like just a beautiful career. Right three world championships US tremendous man, right So, this is not like Tony Larussa like there's something wrong with him I just don't understand. The thinking behind this the trend in baseball is hiring these young guys who filled with analytics and who haven't managed even in the minor leagues like most of the managers you look around, they don't even have any minor league experience and that was the trend and for the white sox to dig deep he's not sixty two Chris I'm not saying if you're over sixty, you can't work and contribute but he's almost eighty years old and we've seen old guys do this before, right? Joe? Gibbs, came out of retirement and went back to Washington and. Phil? Jackson was almost seventy years old. You know he didn't coat. He was the president. He was the GM and is a slew of other people and they can't let it go i. just think this is a bad way that what you want. Do you want Tony Larussa to fired when they start off Chris five twenty five or whatever it is is that that make seventy one? Yeah, but seven. Days was obviously this is the first year with the Astro. What how did how did you? How did you get his job because of the scandal that went on but they have they're saying, had it not been for that? This is a young and upcoming team dusty. Baker what was given a team? Chris that was basically on life support he wasn't given a plum franchise at seventy, six years old and. Zoo were very good team. Who the astro now they finished under five hundred they weren't that good I mean. The playoffs, there's a lot of teams that are really good. They may a wrong good but. The playoffs. And I. Did a good job here here. Obviously, I'm pushing back. And look you might be right Larussa might. Be Horrible. But I'm pushing back because you mentioned all the young. Managers who don't have any experience who were higher to manage these things why are they higher rob? We know because they're gonNA sit there and do exactly what the front office is told them to do. This is your lineup. This is when you go with these batters. This is when you go with these bitches. This guy's got this many pitches he can go and then you gotta get him out there. They're just sitting there there puppets for the front office to do their analytics and most of the old guard aren't putting up with that mess. I think the white sox are going in a different direction I. Definitely don't think Tony Larussa is going to sit there and be a puppet for the front. Office. I think he's going to do old school managing mixed mixed with the analytics. Let the Animal I'm sure he don't know nothing about analytics problem relatively speaking but let the guys the experts in that come make their suggestions tell you what they think. But at the end of the day Larussa is GonNa take all of that information and then he's GonNa coach with that plus his feel which we know is feel for the game is great. And I actually like it rob I the a buck showalter back in the game I know he's not seventy six, but you know like this to me. Maybe. This is a step away from what we've been seeing too many of these teams. Here's my other problem. You've got guys like Marcus, Thames who hitting coach for the Yankees who's put in this time don't work for his first opportunity as a manager. Here's a guy who's a boy was a baseball player did all the other stuff he can't get a job. Because it's still Bopha what about giving Bo Porter. Chris way youngest who still in the game was a broadcaster what about Bo porter what about giving him another opportunity? This is just this is once again guys taking care Tony Larussa already managed their Tony Larussa is the good old boy. Let's call what it is A. He's Nasariyah. He's. He's a good good old. Good old boy ends why he was job at seventy six hiring Tony Lorraine Rondo up you. Wrong. -tunities Chris Can Rob Washington, get another opportunity on know why can't? You know rain to. Series there's a Lotta other hires that they could hire brothers instead of some of these other guys especially if they're gonNA, just dictate to we're talking about but I'm talking about seventy six year old guy who was retired that was my problem. He would just like when Jay Cutler came back out retired. Already doing how Lynn and you know what you're is a verse. Let me let me pay opening day in Chicago for your. Here's the white sox you ready. The white sox take the feel. And Seventy six year old Tony Larussa takes a couple steps to the top of the steps of the dugout. Any yells out this to his team. What? Kids off my lawn. You know what you need. With Alex that's where we are things now. Fun. Party Alex Smith Asleep at the switch ready to go I was just a little loss for. Me Look, there rob we're about. How old are two candidates for president? Rama I'm talking about that. I'm not talking saying it's tonight. They're both in their seventies. No. But this is usually a role of guiding you get hired. You manage a baseball it's absolutely ridiculous. It just is the other. Other people who are looking for opportunities. Chris out. I'm going to sit here why they're not. Radio show at seventy dollars all. The best man for the job they think he's the best man. He's got Shrek a familiar. This is what's going on. This is the old boy network. It's about hiring people feel comfortable with and who you know instead of giving some other people opportunities a seventy six year old guy who's already manage their already wiry and already. The hall of fame why we don't to. Coats. To leave him out to pasture yes he's done he. Heard here. Six year old guy he didn't have. Lewis retired on his own. We've seen Michael. Jordan retired and he wants to come why don't we? X.. This let me tell you something. He won't relate to these guys. This will be a disaster. This will be Michael Jordan Nolan. Washington we listening we. Tom. Brady going to play Tampa Bay. This is what this is going to turn Tom Brady and Tampa Bay is freaking great right now. Over. We'll see but the facts are showing he's doing damage stop it. Seventy six, he's in great shape apparently is he'll be fine. And this hot young white sox you're talking about yeah, I like their talent. But this was their first winning season in like nearly a decade. Follow up with it may be the Roussel's the guy to get through to. That's what they gotta do is relate you relate to guy. was, sixty nine. He took over the Memphis Grizzlies white chocolate Jason Williams, and they had a great relationship and he won fifty games. The second year to help whoop de do fifty games my God of the NBA. Season and here's the rain about Lamar, Jackson winning regular season. Here's the other thing too. Was Connie Mack not available. Did they reach out to Connie? Mack. Casey. Stengel like what why not go there and let the era go dig them up. and. Goad air though that's why I told you. So Paul intensified. To tell. You. This is living his life. He he Zinc euless. Working, you're the only one who could buy it or endorse a seventy six year old guy. Manager's job in the new age of baseball seriously then. You complain constantly. Everybody manages that way quiz. My point is Tony Larussa. Long Road Foucault. I would rather Marcus Thames or give Ron Washington another chancellor angle fine. Of course, I want more black managers but you can you can say that about any higher no. I'm trying to tell you that this is a good old boy higher. That's the problem I have with. Typically as win, the dude is a bad man. Has Been a great manager. He wasn't ready mad and who does what he wrong for ball set in world series. You can't. He might still be for all. 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If you WANNA simplify sports betting and make solid picks, the easy way get started at sports betting dime dot com but we all talk about the Dallas cowboys even though they're horrible they are still a big story because they're that bad. Brett Farve who obviously played for Mike McCarthy the cowboys new coach won a super bowl with. Mike. McCarthy. He. was talking about how you know some of the players in Dallas Had these anonymous quotes, criticizing McCarthy and the coaching staff essentially saying like they didn't know what they were doing. I'M ASS ROB G to read one Afars quotes. Yes. Right. Brett Farr was on Sirius Xm NFL radio. On one of their shows here's what he said. I'm a little bit baffled because Mike's Pretty good at handling players and dealing with issues. He perfect. No one is I think maybe part of the problem is he's pretty stubborn and strong minded into disciplinarian but not in a way like it's going to the principal, he just got that tough Pittsburgh mentality, which is where he's from maybe the group of guys that they have the core group that you count on maybe there guys that. They're not guys that take coaching very well unquote. He also says something about. Them If they're upset they if they don't like McCarthy. That's no excuse to go out there and laying egg and not play your best football, and this is what I WanNa get into rob. I are the cowboys players getting pass. Because every, we've criticized Jerry Jones and we're not the only ones. Jerry Jones is the main problem. Most people feel that way it seems. And Mike McCarthy's getting some criticism. Because obviously, he added done a good job Mike. Getting ripped to shreds. But. The players do seem to be getting somewhat of a pass. What's your thought on that route? I don't think. So I just think that when you bring it coach that everybody pointed to. Garrett that it was. It was Jason. Garrett fault and he's a bad coach and that's why they didn't make the playoffs and if they upgrade to coaching. So when you bring a coach like that and you'd think like ESPN and other people had them go into the Super Bowl 'cause they looked at the talent and they want to know what happened why isn't this coming together and they're going to look at the coach because he came in as a magical mixer, the players in change that much they already said they were talented and this is even before that got hurt. So who's the new person involved in this right? What Avenue last year to know what Jason Jason Garrett's fall that's what that's what people wanted to say, go get them a coach and look at all the talent they have. So my point is that we're Mike McCarthy comes along with the Super Bowl in his back pocket and he brings in Nolan Mike Nolan and all that. That's what you point to. What happened. This was supposed to be fixed. This was supposed to be better look at the talent on this team. And I think. Most people are. Nobody saying McCarthy's shouldn't get criticized. Cry There's no way team play a game or lead size to yet, but they should get a get criticized but they shouldn't be playing as poorly as they have. It's one thing is thing here. So doubt as waiting the lose there's another thing to play poorly at and not compete and a lot of that comes from coach just like penalties you remember the cowboys with all the penalties that's coaching, Chris Nobody's saying it's not that McCarthy shouldn't get any blame. But these players is it's it's the players fault. If. They go out there and they don't play with heart and energy. If you if you can't do that because you don't like the coach same on you. I coaches our like obviously didn't get near anywhere near the pros, but you still gotta go out there and compete. I can't blame that on the coach. So they gotTA, they gotta get after it. s ought to it and they are starting to get a little bit of criticism. Here's Ezekiel or Maurice Jones drew on Ezekiel? Elliott. He actually says he's not playing. Like a ninety, million dollar player, which isn't. Here's his quote. Zeke is certainly not playing up to the standard that came with the ninety million dollar contract. Says Week six dollars ranked second to last points per game and told her yards per game in Dax absence. The last two weeks Zeke's got ninety four yards in twenty four carries thirty seven receiving yards. Now obviously, he doesn't have a quarterback this getting him to football. But Zeke's got five fumbles, four of them, he lost in the first seven games. It's not the coach's fault. Zeke's fumble five times. Those are both league highs and it's also not when the coach Gets Credit and coaching a year when. Zeke Elliott Russia's for fifteen touchdowns and. Fifteen hundred yards that the coach had nothing to do with that either. But but that's not how we do it and we look at how not Black and white nobody's saying because I'm just saying blame or not. I'm not saying that they're not getting any blame Chris but the Magical Elixir was Mike McCarthy that that's that's what's new to the mix. That's all I'm saying that's why people are pushing back on him. This whole notion you've covered Chris, you've been a beat writer the greatest stories when a team is bad that's when people grumble. That's when people talk to report off the record and give you dirt. That's when all this stuff comes out not when you five Oh when you're five and old is nothing going on is boring to cover all I'm saying this not new when things go bad people pointing fingers and all I'm saying is. Mike, McCarthy was the shiny new toy who was supposed to turn this thing around because everybody would you agree says that the cowboys have talent? On both sides say it. 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10/29/2020 - Hour 2 - Tony La Russa Needs to Focus on AARP not MLB

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10/29/2020 - Hour 2 - Tony La Russa Needs to Focus on AARP not MLB

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I wrote a column before this went down for deadspin that I was against it, and then today Chris, we hear the news well, that news being that the Chicago White Sox have hired Tony Larussa. As their new manager seventy, six year old Tony Larussa, he becomes the oldest manager in the majors by five years. And he's only the second major in Major League baseball history to take over a team as seventy, five years or older. Jack mckeon be and the other one he was eighty rounds. At, which is just that sounds crazy. I mean I guess he was in great shape but he was eighty two over tomorrow marlins they went forty and fifty. and His old job because out there was an old joke about I'm not going to give you the punch line foot. There's an old joke about his nickname was trader Jack Right Jack McKee. At he was eighty years old at the old joke was like he's so old that. Guess what they were trading back. There wasn't ball players like how long he's half. I know where you were going with. Saying I, got my views on this hiring, but we want to hear yours I. I think this is totally ridiculous living. In the past you got this young swag fill team Chris with the white sox they made it to the play offs. They did lose the as but they have a bright future and a lot of great young guys there and I see a disconnect. This is like an old crutch and Tony Larussa was in the front office with the angels he retired on his own terms. Chris, he won a world series and say Louis his last one retired right after that got into the hall of fame to the Veterans. Committee. Like just a beautiful career right three world championships us, tremendous man, right So this is not like Tony Larussa like there's something wrong with him I just don't understand. The thinking behind this the trend in baseball is hiring these young guys who filled with analytics and who haven't Manitou even in the minor leagues like most of the managers you look around, they don't even have any minor league experience and that was the trend and for the white sox to dig deep, he's not sixty two Chris I'm not saying if you're over sixty, you can't work and contribute but he's almost eighty years old and we've seen old guys do this before right Joe Gibbs. came out of retirement and went back to Washington and. Phil Jackson was almost seventy years old. You know he didn't coat he was press what he was GM and there's a slew of other people and they can't let it go. I just think this is a bad way. Is that what you want do you want Tony Larussa to get fired when they start off Chris five and twenty five or whatever it is is that where does that we make or seventy one? Yeah. But seven days was obviously this is the first year with the Astro. How how did you? How did you get his job because of the scandal that went on but they have? Saying. Had it not been for that? This is a young upcoming team dusty. Baker. What was given a team Chris that was basically on life support. He wasn't given a plum franchise at seventy, six years old and. were, very good team. Who the astronaut they finished under five hundred they weren't that good I mean. There's a lot of teams that are really good. One good but. The playoffs. And Dusty did a good here here. Obviously, I'm pushing back and look you might be right. Larussa might. Be Horrible. But I'm pushing back because you mentioned all the young. Managers who don't have any experience who are hired to manage these things. Why are they higher row? We know because they're gonNA sit there and do exactly what the front office is told them to do. This is your lineup. This is when you go with these batters this. When you go with these pictures, this guy's got this many pitches he can go and then you gotta get him out there. They're just sitting there there puppets for the front office to do their analytics and most of the old guard aren't putting up with that mess. I think the white sox are going in a different direction. I definitely don't think Tony Larussa is going to sit there and be a puppet for the front office. I think he's GonNa do all school managing mixed mixed with the analytics let the annual I'm sure he don't know nothing about analytics problem relatively speaking, but let the guys the experts in. Come make their suggestions. Tell you what they think but at the end of the day Larussa. All of that information and then he's GonNa. Coach with that plus his feel which we know is feel for the game is great. And I actually like it rob I see a buck showalter back in the game I know he's not seventy six, but you know like this to me. Maybe. This is a step away from what we've been seeing with too many of these here. Here's my other problem. You've got guys like, Marcus Thames who the hitting coach for the Yankees who's put in this time were looking for his first opportunity as a manager. Here's a guy who's a was a baseball player did all the other stuff he can't get a job. Because it's still Bo porter what about giving Bo Porter Chris way youngest who still in the game was a broadcaster what about Bo porter what about giving him another opportunity? This is just this is once again, guys taking Tony Larussa already manage their Tony. Larussa is the good old boy. Let's call it what it is. He's nasal spray and he's he's a good good old. Good old boy why he's been with job at seventy six hiring Tony Lorraine Rondo up you rock. -tunities Chris Can Rob Washington get another opportunity on know why can't You know. Series. There's a lot of other hires that they could hire brothers instead of some of these other guys especially if they're gonNA just dictate to. Talking about but I'm telling about a seventy six year old guy who was retired that was my problem. He was just like when Jay Cutler came back out of retired. Already. Throwing towel in and you know what is a verse? Let me let me pay opening day in Chicago for your. Here's the white sox you ready. The white sox take the feel. And Seventy six year old Tony. Larussa. Takes a couple steps to the top of the steps of the dugout. Don't any yells out this team. What? I let their kids. Long. You know what's Up with Alex that's where we are things now fun fungi. Alex Asleep at the switch ready to go. I was just. Their rob we're about to how old are the two candidates president. Ron. I'm not. Saying it's. They're both in their seventies. No but this this is. Guiding. You manage a baseball. It's absolutely ridiculous. It just is other the other people who are looking for opportunities Chris how? Now, they're not. Radio. Show at seventy years old. The best man for the job they think he's the best man he's got. A familiar, this is what's going on. This is the old boy work. It's about hiring people you feel comfortable with and who you know instead of giving other people opportunities a seventy six year old guy who's already managed their and already wiry at all ready. To Hall of fame why we don't want to. Coats most leave him out to pasture. Yes he's done he. Heard here's all your six year old guy. Lewis, he retired on his own we've seen Michael Jordan retired and he wants to come back while we. Exit this is this. Let me tell you something. He will relate to these guys. This will be a disaster. This will be Michael Jordan. Say Washington we whistling Tom Brady. Going to play in Tampa Bay. This is what this is going to turn. Tom Brady at Tampa Bay is freaking great right now. It's all over. We'll see but the facts are showing he's doing damage. Stop It. Seventy six he's in great shape will apparently is he'll be fine. And this hot young white SOX team you're talking about yeah, I liked their talent. But. This was their first winning season in like nearly a decade. I mean, let's the follow up with it, and maybe the Roussel's gotTa get through to them. That's what they gotta do is relate you can relate to what? was. Sixty nine he took over the Memphis Grizzlies white chocolate Jason Williams and they had a great relationship and he won fifty games the second year whoop de do fifty games my God Abbie A. Season and here's the rain about Lamar Jackson winning regular season game. Here's the other thing too. What was Connie Mack not available did did they reach out to Kathi mackel Casey, stangl like why not go there and let go dig Green. And Let S. Go there. That's right. Told you all the intensive thirty? Two. Long live in his life he. Ridiculous. Working, Judy. Only one who could buy or endorse a seventy six year old guy getting a manager's job in the new age of baseball seriously then laid you and I complain constantly. Who? Manages that way Chris my point is Tony Larussa. Road Foucault I would rather Marcus Thames or give Ron Washington another chancellor angle fine. Of course I want more black managers but you can you could say that about any higher no but. I'm trying to tell you that this is a good old boy higher. That's the problem I have with. Typically win the dude is a bad man. took. A great manager he wasn't man walk for ball who just said pass world series. You can't. He might still be for all. We know we'll see. And if he's bad I'll admit it was wrong. But he I think I'm not Pooh poohing the higher. I'm not saying just because a guy seventy six that he can't be a good manager. I'm not I'm. Not. Going there. Because some people I know or darn near seventy six, and they're still on the radio right near Raven Ramona to leave Jason's. All right is the odd couple as seventy, seven, ninety, nine or Fox your turn to weigh in. You've been listening to us go back and forth about this. Tony Larussa hired at age seventy six. Are you with it? Do you agree with me hey, that doesn't mean he can't manage because he's seventy six. He was a great manager or are you with Rob Stop it? He's way too old. Let him just sit at home and watch TV your turn away eight, seven, seven, ninety, nine on Fox eight, seven, nine, nine, six, sixty, three, sixty, nine, I, couple Fox sports radio be sure to catch live editions of the odd couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker Weekdays at seven PM Eastern Four PM Pacific on Fox sports radio and the iheartradio APP. Okay. So there's a lot of talk out there about taxes. So here's the deal. 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Mean we We give those people watch this Jimmy Neutron people love this show. Out I'm old I guess I'm. was less watch cartoons neutral but I was in adult by the time. This was a it was so good. Yeah. Yeah. I heard it. Okay. I'm I'm lost rob you only. Ever seen, you stumped like this no I I I'm not that young hey, eight, seven, seven, ninety, nine, all to the number of you want chime in here's the question is Tony Larussa to old is seventy six to be hired as the Chicago White sox manager your turn away and let's get to it. Yep. Let's go to nate in Connecticut Urania I couple Fox sports radio. What's update hey, guys up. Yeah. I think no way he could manage. I, come on guys think what seventy six is. About six so much from now you may think, yeah, he really doesn't have it. Nate how old are you? May I'm seventeen. Okay. Come when I was seventeen rob I thought thirty one was old. Is like what you hit thirty. What's life about? What's there left? Say. One was old. When I was seventeen, I was looking at people like man. I didn't think that I thought maybe in their fifties I thought people were older but so nate has no. perspect- well as a young guy was saying somebody your age shouldn't be managed Nah that's different I mean I I don't look at it the same way I just think that let's let's stop doing this and stop denying that happened a lot. It doesn't happen. I just. I mean this this this is a good old boy higher they like him they feel comfortable Chris is not about his credentials or whatever. He was a fine manager I'm not ripping was this alias deal blue gruesome. Wants to say. Can't do. I'll just. Seventy six I mean I'm trying to hire the medicine man for this? Just Comfort Food? This is this is we feel comfortable. This is somebody we know it doesn't matter that he's old and has been out. The game has a managed for eight years Chris? It's been eight years. It's not like he stopped managing last week. I. Ain't. Now you mentioned some Guy Ron Washington he did a great job. He was good. He should be somewhere managing. There's no question about it in my mind. but. I would rather see Tony Larussa. Then wanted these young guys who's never managed and who's not GonNa get the opportunity to really manage he's just gonNA paint by numbers. You know listen to what the Front Office tells him to do, and that's that I rather see told you the Russa get his shot. Maybe he does well, maybe this finally put a somewhat of a nail in the coffin of some of the stuff we're seeing I think this will and badly where the players won't relate and they'll be like a problem with this. Just there's there's a related ability Chris with younger guys and where the game is headed and where Tony Larussa comes from this guy was around baseball lifer even after retired is in the front office with the with the. Los Angeles Angels. So I get it and you know it's easy to say Oh yeah I'll adapt and I'll do this and I'll do that I just don't believe you could teach an old dog new tricks and And you know what? They'll probably these. Office as well. What well? Yeah. There could be with the front I. Mean they gotTa know they gotta not not bringing in a puppet no because you know what? When you bring a guy in and you give them this opportunity said, yeah Oh. Yeah I'm I'm here I'M GONNA learn I'm willing to this and that, and then you get down there and when he gets the job then it's always hard people will say anything to get hired they will they'll tell you oh yeah, and then when it happened but he didn't need this right there's no like he and now granted maybe he was bored maybe to get back into you know. Get the feel back. You know like you said, he's a for all these known. So yeah, he probably wanted to get back to that Chris. He certainly didn't need the money. It's not about the money, but it's it's an ego trip and I'll tell you this I. Promise you. I, will not be. Out. There covering games in the press box at seventy six years old so that people can say, Hey, wasn't that Rob Parker. Looking at guy in the front. On no man. To your like that. No never. Go ever retire that that is you don't have you. Are you kidding me I know? You think you're GONNA work till you go work. I work all the holidays but when we're. Done, I'm done. I. Want and I want to give other people opportunities and let them experience and have an opportunity. This is like typical old guy trying to hang on and it doesn't. It's not a good look for Tony. Wells. We'll see if he leads them to some success is going to be a good look. All right. We got our mayor Greg Jimmy's coming up. In a moment as always fun. But I be sure to catch live editions of the odd couple with Chris Broussard. Then Rob Parker Weekdays at seven PM Eastern four PM. Pacific on Fox sports radio and the iheartradio APP. We're about to be joined by the Super Bowl champion the Fox NFL analyst. And up and coming bodybuilder rake man and Greg Genie's brother was. Good to have you on as always I, liberty let me just jumping the Falcons in panthers, a playing and Greg. The. Falcons obviously. have had a disastrous season. We saw the. Todd Gurley play and you know how they lost in a lie and you were doing that game back. In fact, I was watching that right? You would do in that game. Right I don't put that on girly by the way I do what you Mazel. How does that happen and I know that Morris the coach took responsibility. But how does that happen? Greg? If he just stops before the end zone runs the clock down, they would've won. They would have won the game kick field goal and wouldn't allow a had enough time for Matthew, Stafford to lead the lies down the field. Yeah. So that play was it was a unique way obviously the the Detroit lions defenders, most of them all but one. was allowing girly to runs free straight into the end zone, and if you watch the play, what happened is the safety, the last line, the fence he came to tackle girly, and so girlie Kinda leans forward with his head down his momentum and that is what carried him beyond the gold mine if that were to never happen if that defender to just move and remove himself from trying to even impede he, he gets down no question no thought I truly believe that but because that defender played as though, he was going to tackle him. It caused Todd Gurley to continue in his his momentum moving forward to attack Oh if you will, and that little moment caused to cross the goal line even. So Greg is that girl I mean I get yes. He doesn't score a win the game, but can you put that on girly how about the defense step and they just marched right down the field on that defense and then Chris to that point that was the point that I made during the broadcast. Okay. girly score. Well, the game is about twenty points on the board. Obviously you WANNA be clock managing. In that moment he tried he failed. Now this is why we play complementary team football. This is why it's a team sport because we have an offense that needs to put on the board. We did that not the way we wanted, but we did it now it's up to the defense to do their part and they didn't they fail as disagree with you guys more. To let Todd Gurley off the hook on don't you? Know. Greg is just like the Super Bowl when when the Falcons have intended to twenty two, all they need to do is to kneel down three times. Kick a field goal, go up by eleven and they win the Super Bowl. You know what they do. They go back for pass and there's a holding and there's a sack for fifteen yards and they take themselves out of field goal range, and then you blame the defense for not stopping Tom Brown Park gave him the ball Rob Parsons. Parker Rob Parker. Have you ever been in a in a uniform on the national stage running trying to elude a tackler and then needing to go down have you ever had to do that? I do. and. So my point, my point, Todd Gurley himself owned it. He didn't shy away from it. He didn't say it was on my defense. He said that was on me. All I'm telling you is what my eyes saw as a spectator that was there and saw what his body did to guard himself from just being tackled willfully. Is, that is what led him to crossing the goal line with that momentum. We saw he wanted to get down. But if you go five steps back, you will see exactly what I'm trying to explain to you. Who Even if you see it now you still will have your point that you want to make and you would disagree. We spent four minutes too long on the Falcons. All right. It up. This Greg knows rob from undisputed. So he will go at you. You know that rob. We were talking earlier we were. Debating over. David Carr put out his list two days ago. I believe of the top quarterbacks he would build around under twenty five years of age and I was initially surprise he had column refers and Lamar. Jackson. Second meaning I expected of course Jackson to be first but the more I thought about it the more I analyzed it. And I gotta be honest. Great. If you WanNa, tell me Lamar Jackson's better right now I'm fine with that. The League. If if I had to build a team right now and I, could start with either of those two guys. Personally. I would take collar. Murray. Where are you at on this? I'm taking Carla Murray. I'm taking Carbon Murray for this sole reason only because. I see what he can do right now as they pass thrower in this league and right now his level of throwing the football quarterback from the pocket and throwing the football accurately and being able to win a game when the by his arm. And his arm alone because he can run, he can he can be he can show capability as well. Not like Lamar not comparing him at all, but the game is won typically with quarterback arms when their teams are down and they need to make that surge in that charge in the Mar. Jackson just simply has not been able to do that how they've won seventeen out of eighteen games. How did they do it? The Ravens with his talent with heroin. Diva sasken okay? Asking I got another question how about Michael Thomas what's going on with the saints and and He was supposed to come back and then he got into some altercation. I mean, this guy had the greatest season last year and it's just been a disaster is there more to this. I think there is more to it rob when you look at the dynamic that has played itself out you pay a player obviously people started saying, Oh, well, we'll the player changed well, I. Think Ultimately, guys will change a little bit but you look at the relationship between drew brees and Michael Thomas, and nobody will ever mention this or had mentioned it. But you about the the comments that were made this past off season after the George Floyd incident and everything about the flag and dealing and all of that in the first person that comes out and says, I'm that's my quarterback I. Forgive Him Michael, Thomas now it's almost like is this relationship fractured? And what is it that would have fractured? This relationship is potentially that is it is it something that we just don't know is it that Michael Thomas Really See something Andrew that he doesn't like any more as a quarterback I don't have the answer to that. All I know is Michael Thomas he's been to productive and he's been too good both on the field off the field to start having these questions loom in our minds so that we can create these narratives keep playing ball my man in do what you've been doing up until this point in your career. Well. Said I'M GONNA throw a hypothetical at you. Greg. I'll. Say Dallas. Finishes two and fourteen or three and thirteen or something like that and has a top pick your obviously not getting Trevor Lawrence with the Unless you're the number one pick. Let's say if they could either trade up and get Trevor Lawrence or they stay at five or whatever, and they can get justin fields from Ohio state. Do you think that would be the smart play or should would it be the franchise that can just stay with him? I personally think if you could get Trevor Lawrence at any. Any position if you have the opportunity to trade up in the team agrees and says, okay, yes sure and you can get trouble on. Takes every morning that the only player that I believe is worth. Trading up for if I'm the Dallas cowboys with giving my quarterbacking situation outside of that Dak, Prescott, is your guy. His he you know for sure he's GonNa be healthy or I mean yeah. That's health is held is in question with any player? Now. I get that. He's I get that. He's heard now but everyone always questions. Okay. Will they come back the same well I mean he's not the first player that has gone down with the broken. Ankle or a torn ACL or a Tibia injury or any of those things that has come back and played well when you look at look at tour. He's about to start for the first time in his NFL career and the question on him was will he be the same player we're about to see but a team still took a chance. So you have a guy already that you know has. Experiences League. It has taken it by storm if you will as far as his statistics in. Dak Prescott. You have a guy if some. Of the back would you sign up to a contract before seeing them play like a new deal? backrest yeah. Absolutely so you would okay. Last thing, Greg we got. We got about a minute left. I forgot what I was Gonna ask it was a good question. Wasn't that important great as usual. Oh here. Here you go. Here we go. You play for Mike, McCarthy of course, what is your thoughts in what do you feel and in think when you heard these anonymous cowboys players, they're coming out saying you know the coaches have not prepared and this and that, and it Kinda paint him like he doesn't know what he's doing. Yeah. I'll say this rob, you know this from our time I can't stand the anonymous quote I can't stand them out in this player or coach or staff or employees. Own. Your comment if you're GonNa do that, but that just shows me that there's a deeper fracture than what is transpiring on the field. It is beyond the level of play on the field and everyone wants to throw this on Mike McCarthy and he should own it. He's going to have to he's the head coach. But at some point, these players going to have to own their part everyone thought Jason. Gear, was. Was the issue he's no longer there. You address the coach. Now it's time to let okay. Let's identify players that are in players that have to go. And let me just say this as a journalist of life. Some of the greatest journalism has come from unnamed sources and anonymous sources including deep throat with Watergate and sometimes Greg I hear you as a person player not warning that. But sometimes the only way you can get information that that can make a difference. So solely, agree have to get it that way. We agree. Yep. I that's our man Greg Genie's we appreciate the time brothers always. Absolutely, take care. Piece we got a sneak peek into this week's inside the Parker podcast coming up. 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The Sean Salisbury Show 11-10-20

The Sean Salisbury Show

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The Sean Salisbury Show 11-10-20

"I got a quarterback friend. sean salisbury. This is the sean salisbury. show very. Good morning houston tex. Sean salisbury show. I am on job sees here and so shot. Mortar guys man. I'm doing good. How are you guys doing today poland. It's a I guess jeff little is gonna sue off get twenty two million bucks back right the up. Some of it baseball had a rough night. Or i don't know if it's rough yet with jeff lynne. Osuna tony larussa d. You are become a korean baseball league fan. I'm watching him right now. That's still it's still on there in the playoffs. They're not even they're they're in like there. S or lcs right now. I didn't watch it when it when we weren't playing in the united states saw did i mean i know what other than what is on in our studio. I didn't know it was still going ought is. I didn't know it either until yesterday. Good gracious that's a august. It's a normal season considering when we're playing in the united states it's a hundred and sixty two games and they started about sense. This is the playoffs you said. Yeah it's like the round before the final round of the postseason which apparently the t the number one team in the regular season gets to sit back and watch the other teams play three rounds of games before they they play against the one of the teams already secured. Well there you go guard. Can't wait to break it down. Blast could be. It's it's it's the nc dyno's so it could be the kt whiz of the do son. Deuce on team is can't wait now. I on bears look forward to our the analysis. Look forward the now night joss emc. I'm here seven one. Three two one two five seven ninety. Jeff koons lawsuit. He's going to sue the houston astros. Jim crane used quotations around the word investigation and calls in the resolution between jim crane rob manfred that enabled the team to keep its world series championship and went to great lengths to publicly exonerate crane and scapegoat. Luo that's part of it Going on and i imagine he's got some what he's gonna do is force baseball's hand and they asked astros hand to make sure the next step is to tell everybody how this went down and quite frankly while i like i said i don't know if it's frivolous or not It's obvious throughout this whole thing. Why we didn't hear you know. Not us but jeff wasn't same much. He was crafting. The right thing to say in that press conference the rest of it and and It will be a battle. I think they're going to have to listen to actually going to get to court. I down because of they'll saddle. Yeah reading stuff really. I guess the chronicle all put together some legal people illegal team worth of people here in houston saying that. They don't think that not a single one of them thought that it was going to get to. It'll it'll go to an arbitrator and in the work it out. Yeah oh no he's gonna get paid. Jeff gets money and so so you don't to be if you don't see you don't get to hear everything that was said or went on behind the scenes because you know subpoena those That whole thing because it'd be different lawsuit as attached to the original. You know suspension Or should i say a lawsuit attached the original suspension. and so. yeah they're going to go to it and you probably hear anything about it other than there was a settlement and it probably won't take you know it won't spend one day in court more than likely you're exactly right so but I understand just frustration but depending on the and yet none of us truly deeply no every branch to the story about you know whose fault was really was the you know the original who started it and major league baseball for the most part for them hasn't been overly transparent through a lot of this. Just ask the the People who wanna know about the yankees and the rest of it right exactly. So they're they haven't been transparent and we don't know all that went into this and the red sox and other teams being investigated so you know i. There is a frustration. Part of it. And i'm sure there are some who On jeff ludo side with this and some don't but here in houston just trying to move on from rb yeah. I'm sure the legal people who know far more about this stuff than we do would be able to answer the question over whether they think that. that this is going to end up in court most likely won't And sometimes that's would it be a doozy. Well that's what i'm saying. They did if if it did and all of a sudden they said. Nah no. we're going to battle you on this giving up any money and that's not going to happen. Because in essence what a settlement says his. We don't wanna go through with this because there's just you know let's just let's just get this thing over with which means there may be some usually in this. I'm not saying this for the astros but usually in this when there is a settlement. They they're not sure they can win. Okay the side and says let's settle if you know what i mean. They're just like we all. This could be. This could get interesting. Let's get this done and not just here but it happens. You know we see these type of things not in a cheating scandal but these type of things happen all the time but it would be that i would imagine jeff's analytics and a smart guy. I would imagine his team would be you know and missed the upsides really smart too. I would imagine there'd be some deep diving into that situation with the the the cheating scandal in sign stealing scandal so but jeff leno is suing file a lawsuit against the astros for twenty two million dollars over Breach contract basically and Felt like scapegoat. So that's something we will keep a close eye on and discuss and Maybe you guys have an idea. Seven three two one two five seven nine hundred if he's got two legs to stand on with this And will listen and white sox hire new manager white sox new managers got a dui. I believe that's number two. Then he fall asleep at stop sign. Handful y- years ago like down. I think it was two thousand eight or two thousand seven governor so some explaining to do the white sox say they're aware of the situation regardless of what it was or how it happened. What's going to happen with this. Not a good. Look by tony larussa. You know a guy who's been given another opportunity at his age to manage major league baseball He's obviously a hall of fame guy manager. Should i say unfortunately this This is a. This is a mistake now like i said i wasn't there. I don't know what his blood alcohol levels. I don't even know that they have all he refused. Say there's no way probably even dip. Yep oh but it's it's still a and he was widely wise to refuse the test league. He's wise to do that. Not wise to drink and drive and not wise to put himself in this position when he's been given a tremendous opportunity and i don't know if it's going to cost him money and embarrassment but i still think he'll manage the white sox when they opened the spring with a slap on the hand from the organization. I this is a bad look it is. It is a very very bad. Look considering there are a lot of people resisting this higher. Anyway his stage you know his stage of the game. Yeah i mean it was the dumbest higher of the offseason to me and it will continue to be he. He wasn't the choice obviously should have been. Aj hinch and they didn't go after him because their owner wanted this guy. Oh here we go. Here's a dui good luck with that. Yeah house app for validate. And hey you know we really appreciate You know you give me the opportunity to manage. Let me go out and celebrate. I mean obviously that. I don't think that was tony. Larussa thinking but you just. I've always wondered. Why guys in that situation. Don't arts smarter about it. Almost comes back to the micromanaging ego thing right. Oh i can drive got this we have. I know he's like seventy put on his phone. It's not that hard. Yeah i all the more reason. Why the elderly the the the more you should do the you know. Protect yourself and get somebody to dry for your call lubar. Even at a time. When it's you know covid or or don't fall asleep at a stop light or stop sign. Don't get in your car and drive when you've been drinking. Just don't do it. It's done and he should know better because wouldn't wouldn't he like i said i don't like to judge people but this is just this is just stupid. It's just down because wouldn't will. What would happen. If one tony larussa players came up to him and said coach or they got a call in the middle. I coach. here's what happened. Last night wouldn't be. I mean that's just bad decision. And while you're good player. We do this canada blah blah blah blah and. Go through the checklist reasons not to do it right. Yeah and you would have thought he learned the first time and here. We are a grown ass man making decisions you think. Well this guy's gonna lead my team and lead a team that's filled with young players. Listen drinking and whether you're twenty two or ninety two and driving is is not smart but you're an influential guy unfortunately driving under the influence. But you're an influence. You've got influential guy who's been given another opportunity to make smart decisions that you ask your players did make and unfortunately tony larussa starts off and really well. He's got a lot of things that answer to now. And that's a it's unfortunate for not only the white sox but also for an organization that many people thought show hired somebody else right it. Just it's a bad. Look terrible luck and a good good again. Good luck to that. I mean just there. There's there's just kill. The reason dropped like people are going to love their team. The optimism of thirteen. I can't imagine being a fan of like okay. We hire this guy now. This has happened fun. Yeah after all that's gone on you you'd like to fresh you like man alive this is. This is what a golden opportunity right ban ivy given this incredible chance. Don't drink and drive okay. You want to celebrate. Do it at your own home. If you're going to have a drank hire somebody hire a buddy pay a buddy not to drink and give them a couple of five hundred bucks. It's gonna cost them a lot more than five hundred bucks to To go to this. I'm not sure if money matters to this stage. I'm sure he's probably got plenty of it but the embarrassment and and the message you're senator an organization the team you're trying to lead doesn't fly it just doesn't all right sports talk seven ninety so tony larussa dui and jeff leno suing the astros. The texans. i wonder how many people get caught up into the false. What's the word. I'm looking for into the false. Because they want hope house even go deeper fat zero of them yesterday. Thank god Oh the that believed in it. Yeah i just don't don't buy into it when they can buy into certain positions. Don't buy into this a good football team because they let a young rusher and a young quarterback universe start. Put them two points away from winning a game. Regardless of the good players they have the defense is just. They can't stop anybody they just can't sit on. Don't don't start buying in yet. I mean you can be a mr optimism but do not buy into They took a step closer now. I actually. I actually feel like the would. They took a win in the win column. they did. They didn't take a step closer and fixing their woes will talk among other things. It's sports talk. Seven ninety m c josh. A great to be back here and great to be with you guys on tuesday morning. Come right back this godless quarterback. Listen to sean pulse berry holes. Were john salisbury. sports socks. Ninety your home of us baseball sports talk seven ninety and a master's starts mc josh. See here the masters will start on thursday. No patrons and tenants No ropes family close friends members and their families if they want to attend Supposed to get a little bit of rain or a lotta rain on one of these days soft. So will the distance guys played better sergio. Sergio garcia will miss because of his Covert positive tests whereas wife tested negative So he won't be in. Its first major. He's missed in about one hundred years soul. The the names will be there. They're kind of excited. And the golf course looks really good. Be different colors weird with no grandstands but Still masters is the master. So you know. Tiger always a favorite there but Start to think of d. Sham bows and there's some really really good players and listen to them talk. They seem jacked up. Juiced up about it Regardless and this is the this is the longest and eighty some years or whatever The shortest distance of a major in some eighty years. It's like a hundred and thirty days or something hundred and thirty three days or something between this one and the next major which obviously be the first major twenty twenty one is the master so whether it'll be in the eighties today As another practice round kicks in and they get themselves ready and probably the some of the best news coming out of augusta yesterday was the committee Their decision and the members decision to have lee elder in twenty twenty one give scholarship men and women. There's college scholarships to men and women golfers Also elders name longtime golfer. African american will along with gary player. And jack nicklaus and twenty twenty one to further at the honorary tee off and he will be that guy so a great. It's awesome recognition and bringing more awareness than bringing also more young Minority african american athletes into the sport and he made a big impact. And guys. i cam. And charlie sifford and calvin peete. Jim thorpe Tiger woods obviously now so this is a great move by not only the you know the committee probably overdue. But we'll get a new face off twenty twenty in april at at augusta's on honorary captain and that'll be lee elder along with jack. Nicholson gary player. I think it's awesome. It's going to be great and thursday. Honestly just can't get here fast enough ready to go. Yeah you're probably pretty pumped. I think it's going to be I'm just curious. We watched de shambo. He's not gonna use the forty one eight inch driver because he says it's too much torque on his body as well but he will still try to bring the course to its knees. And you know if it's really really wet you would think now it's a shot makers but not a lot of rough so they can score. Everybody then comes into play even the inaccurate drivers he would think that the long hitters. Can you know when you're hitting. I guess yesterday and a practice round to par fours or par fives. He didn't have a shot at of more than one hundred upper eighties into a green. So even on the long par fives. He says even said himself. He said par for him on this golf course sixty seven. And that's all into cocky. And i'm really ever then. He sucks now. That's that's what he said. He said par for him. If he's planning he goes. I could play poorly as well. No doubt about that. He goes but if i play. Well my par- my head is sixty seven on the golf course so that means that you know. Obviously his life is going to he believes is gonna come into play it. Will you would think that a soggy golf course means less carry which means the people who can who have the carry in the air unless role should i say and The people hit long and far and you know people who can change their change suggests there ball flight. He also hits at high when he wants to amfar. So you'd think that's an advantage depending on how accurate is us open. People didn't for the longest hitters. They favor of the most accurate london. He he didn't have a problem Was the us open. Yeah not the pg us open. He had no problem Taking care of business on that course of his length so it's it will we'll see You wonder how much fill in tiger come into. Play here in the filter company He's he's done. Yeah i just wondered. I wonder now with with the no rough. There's no pine needles and all that stuff or the lack thereof option. I'd say a lot of graphs t that's an i'm just but i'm wondering if you know. And he he can't. He hits it off the tee. At times i don't mean lengthwise but like an amateur something that he does he gets me like. What are you doing. But i would imagine. He's gonna come in here thinking he asked pull that out of his golf bag. And you know cut corners on certain driving holes to get there and we had a hit an iron into greens but because he's still fairly long just can't keep straight. I wonder though if the lack thereof of you know all the stuff that goes on is gonna help him. You know d- shambo also. I think on the fifteenth fairway. I mean on the fifteenth coaches. That dogleg left par five. I thought it was hemmed. Who said he is going to hit it over the trees into the fairway on fourteen on purpose and he likes the angle into the green from their better. Now we're talk. we're we're tired of holding. The he's changed in the shape of the golf course to play played in there with the last time. You heard a guy. Say i'm gonna hit it over the drive. It deepened into the fourteenth. Fairway so i can come in from the fourteenth fairway. Because i liked the angled better of the whole now you know that will piss people off because the design will this is designed for you to be able to hit it over there and play over here. We don't want that but he doesn't care so Interesting approach if that's the case if that's what he's going to do to approach this golf course this week but i can't wait. It's weird to have it. Now that it's it's still guston. I'm pumped up for the it's going be an awesome thursday and Gonna be basically must watch all weekend. Do bet this tournament no. I honestly haven't bet on anything in a while. i really have been wanting to get back into it. But we're doing other things that are not spending money so i'm probably going to be out on betting until next year i would. I would definitely do it. Who would you bet. Take one of the favorites. I think i watched kept over the weekend play here. I think he's playing. I think he's he played really well and his putter started to look good. I would bet him this week. Honestly he's been close there before. Yeah the you know. There's the guys like bat cooter who were good putters and just hit it. In the fairway steady. He'll find his name. Probably somewhere in the leaderboard somewhere. Dustin johnson who do off covid what he i think he finished in second place last. He's another one right looking at yup. So that'll be interesting to see how he he's always a name but those names and they'll be there's more europeans in the tour than there is a us players But that's a lot of times the case and they're always good. I mean although. I'm trying to think when's the last time lee westwood's finished second twice. I think was lee westwood. Or maybe what lee westwood. It was Who's another irish golfer Scottish call for now wasn't graeme mcdowell. It'll come to me but he's finished. What the the whoever no. Maybe it was lee westwood. Maybe it might have been lee westwood but Finished second twice there. Good player But they you know there'll always be a guy the mean the those staff so many european players that they'll be they'll be on the leaderboard. I'm just trying to figure when the last time a sergio one win twenty seventeen. I think he's probably the most so sergio tiger in two thousand nineteen and of patrick reed gave it the tiger. Yeah so k. So yeah those. Somebody great golfers europeans and young players old players and the young players. They're hitting it so far that they're they're on the ass. These veteran players veteran players are trying to keep up with him. It'll be on and they seem to have no fear. I mean it's like you know. Then you've got the tony females. Who were always good players. That'd be fun. i can't wait. I can't wait to see what it looks like. Actually on golf thursday friday saturday sunday when they're none of that and the loud roars and you know the tiger made a of to fairways over. It's gotta be a blast to watch. We got much to discuss. Obviously in the nfl. The texans we will discuss their next. At cleveland And then i believe the patriots follow that focus on the cleveland browns and they're similar teams in the way. That records not similar but in their heads scratching a lot of times for different reasons the way they play against good teams and we will discuss it. Sportstalk seven ninety emcees. Here joshi's here you could chime in. You got a master's choice. Seven three two one two five seven ninety canada. Texans win two in a row. The cleveland browns will us next men's t clinic. Men's clinic dot com. These are my guys the If you're feeling testosterone slow if you feel like you're sluggish you feel like you Major weekends back your libidos down. 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Tiger woods is going to be on a sunday on moving day on saturday. The big question is are you as pumped or excited about the masters in november as you are when it comes around in april so is there are pumped about both but is there one is going to be a different look. The colors will look different. The golf course will look different without patrons and ropes and it's kind of field. It's going to feel different and the weather is going to be a little bit different degrees wise. So there's a lot of things it will look and feel different for you. And are you usually ready for golf in november when it comes to tv golf which in the past has been like silly season and getting yourself tuned up for that. We've changed. How the golf season worked. So are you just as excited or should it more excited now or less excited but the excitement level between august and now however josh you're gonna go word it and level Exciting in november the gusta or but five plus months later or whatever. It's going to be the exact day For the masters in april. So there's your choice visit and maybe give us a reason why you'd call in seven one three two two five seven hundred. I wonder if there's anybody more pumped it says. I mean that is so if you weren't going to like if they were moving this golf tournament to this day and this weekend permanent. They're not gonna do it. They're right back out of it. I wonder if during football and the rest of it if the people would would Be bothered by having a major this late in the year. And i wonder why we don't and i well i mean timing wise for sue sunlight available with the babbio it's limited the field to from what sixty it's now fifty the way that they the people that make the cut and the rest of it and they're starting i think at both night. You know both nines where they they don't call it the front nine the background. They called the first nine in the second night. I believe in augusta. You have to call it that. But this'll be lanced barrel the producer. Not many people know him but fuel will watch golf and he took over fracture kenyan And he this is his last masters That he will broadcast in the booth. He started as the spotter. And kind of his do everything lance lance barrel for pat summerall. So he's also a great article in golf magazine about it I was reading it on the plane and just All the things that barrow scene and pat summerall He started with and ended up now at the top golf job on the planet by at least on tv of producing this great event. This is his last last one. But i just wonder yeah with the daylight i just always wondered. And that's the main reason and obviously football in the cold. The cold in the year gets They don't do it but i mean they did. They're doing it here in the neck keeps people's you know. Oh my gosh. We got master's in in november. This is really cool. I didn't think i'd like it at first. But i've missed it. And i'm okay to crown a champion two times in six months. I think it's pretty cool. Yeah it's going to be weird and awesome to have it happen that quickly twice. I mean i'm. I'm not mad about that but i'd prefer the the normal time of year. Gab april yeah right after the let you go. Final four Augusta and they usually go with. What is it seat. Pine harbour town. Is that with the hilton. Hilton damian in that next tournament usually follows. They're on their way to south carolina. I think So that that whole time. Right around there is awesome fired up about this spring So the question is do you. Are you just as pump for this. One is you are for the one in the spring when it comes to the masters tournament again. Congratulations to lee elder. Who will be part of. Jack nicklaus gary player in twenty twenty one in scholarship and tremendous recognition. Is he will be one of the honorary Golfers at t off on the first hole to introduce the masters Next spring and and i love the fact that they're waiting till the spring. Why because all the fans that are going to be there. Lee elders deserves as the golf deserves to have all the patriots. When i say fans patrons that's they call it again other patrons their to cheer him on when he tees off on the first tee box that'd be a great thrill for him so many great great for golf. This is an awesome decision by them. So i i prefer spring. I'll take now though because when you're a football teams you know baseball and basketball over. Although basketball is going to start seeing your football team is to and six and not playing well. i'll take four rounds of golf At augusta. I'll take rounds of golf across the street but on tv for your viewing pleasure The for instance. This sunday i will probably be far more into this final round. Especially if it's closed depending on the leaderboard or even not that. I will be on a couple of football teams that i may not be interested in watching at a certain time day right the later after depending on what the afternoon games are I have no problem tune into golf. November watching the masters as opposed to The haves and the have nots in the nfl. We also get a lsu alabama leading into the mass or after the master. So you can just leave your tv on saturday. Yup at in In question to right now though. There's it's that games. There's a possibility could be in question in danger because of covid missive mississippi state game That game has been postponed and moved the because of covid I think texas a and m. has delayed As i don't wanna say shut down. But his temporary delayed Football operations. Because i think a player in somebody within the organism within the school or somewhere a student or something close to the program has had Possibly tested positive. So that's possible. I mean this is just it's gonna keep it. Listen like it's not about of if it's a matter a when it gets to every program yes there you go so it's games are gonna continue to be endanger games. They're going to continue to be postponed. And the longer you go. i don't believe we're making. I'm not sure. But i thought they said they cancelled it the university of arizona. Utah game last week. I don't know if that was postponed now. Maybe i'm wrong. But i thought it was canceled. And maybe they're planning to different date. There's not a lot of leeway for that conference. I believe it was just cancelled. Yeah there's on one last game not a lot of leeway for the conference to have these the these situations and it's going to happen it's gonna happen it just it. It's not a matter of going to get to your program. It's a matter of win. It's a matter of lynn. And i mean hate to say it till you folks but if you're one that doesn't get it the hopefully the symptoms will be down and not not a lot but i'm just telling ya your it's all these programs these tell. It spreads easy. it is not the. There's i'll be shocked unless we don't know and hear the results if most programs since it started to now if there hasn't been a player or so on every nfl and college team that plays that's been tested positive at some point and maybe they'll have no symptoms. Or what have you. But i just it's just people who you can wear a mask one hundred percent of the time and there's still a chance that you may good chance you're gonna get this virus. I mean i've been there and some some people may not even know they have it. So i hope i'm wrong but i just it programs that are taking all this protocol and even in somewhat of a bubble is much as you can be on a college campus. And they're still getting you know flip. Athletes are rounded. It's it's going to happen. And hopefully i mean it's proven that it happens a lot of programs and the question is how do you keep it from being spread. Rampant is going to be a key and you know everybody living up to the protocol and being respectful and enduring the things that they need to try and stay away from it but even in the offseason you may get it so it's a it's a virus people get and unfortunately people you know some people get it worse than others. Let's hope they don't but it's just it doesn't surprise me that we keep hearing this on college campuses. That's all i'm saying and it's not going to surprise. We keep hearing it in pro sports. It's just not. I don't know if you guys talked yesterday did you guys talk about notre dame storm in the field. You have a problem with that is not i said was helpful. I've just pointed out how funny the internet was because yet everybody earlier in the day out in the streets party and about the election and everybody on twitter like multiple accounts or pointed out like. Oh we're taking to the streets. This is so great to see and everything and then the pig tweet pictures of the football game and saying how awful this isn't there storm in the fields like. Yeah while they're in the streets party celebrating for yeah no question. It's just silly all right so the poll questions up at sports seven ninety you can check it out and re tweet it as well. We and tell us what you think sports. Talk seven ninety. Mc josse myself boy. It'd be nice if we had a six into football team to talk about wouldn't it. We'll discuss the texans and What's next as we move forward and play the cleveland browns shots southbound show normalizing your testosterone levels can favorably impact a variety of functions improving your mood. Cognitive function improved energy. 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Go see my friends and dramatically improve quality your life. Men's clinic dot com. What happened and he's got a lot to say about. Sean salisbury continues on seven nine sports. Talk seven ninety asking going through watching this game on the weekend. The texans jacksonville and i would have thought going in that. This was going to be a much bigger large victory texas regardless of players. Were out the code. That you're facing luta Jeff luton who's a rookie quarterback you facing a running back who you know as a young kid who's not exactly a first round draft pick. Your day are a team. That's while young with some good players you're should have been they've been outmatched good ones and they weren't yeah it it just. I'm fascinated every week. That i watched them play that i can't see them. Put a fourth quarter game together. It's painfully obvious for david johnson. I you know. I don't like to see anybody hurt or anybody's expense but duke johnson's a far that are player running the football. And he wasn't he wasn't even goodness game right and he's better it. See just hits the holes better just does he sees it better. David johnson has and neither one of should be the starting running back to the texans and twenty twenty one. That's my while david duke. Johnson's a better player. All around right hits that hold a little quicker. they're just they just. There's not a they have no chance right now with explosiveness out of that position because they're limited if they don't pass well they just don't win Now like i said. I i'll take a win like i've always said i'm not going to go away from you. Find know good teams. Find ways to win when they're not playing their best. The problem is this now. The texans play every week. They were a two point conversion. I i didn't like the call. I would have got the quarterback on the move to give him more than just a one quick out option But there are two point conversion away from pushing the overtime who knows. Then you win. The coin toss game could have been over and does any do either one of you guys trusted. The texans would have gone off the field. They were not getting off the field. I mean he had the luton had a couple of moments where he looked like a rookie but for the most part he didn't he had twelve incompletions threw three hundred four yards. I mean that's yeah any razov now. For a great run of his touchdown run was outstanding and they ran the football effectively enough. It's sesame statistically. They weren't far off matter of fact in certain categories. Were better statistically than than the texans were. And in truth like i said. I'm just trying to point out. All the people complain about calls they got i counted. It was almost four seconds between the clock. Zeros and the referee not calling the delay of game. When they threw the touchdown pass the fuller. That was it in it by like a half. A second i i i went with thousand one one thousand two thousand three as i started to go down to one thousand four. The ball got snapped and the clock was still zero so they stole it. They they they got. It wasn't kind of a kind of a gift it will now who knows if they'd gone down and scored anyway but it was a major gift because it turned into a big home. Run for a touchdown that should have been five yard penalty and they're fortunate there so and not like oh wasn't that yes. It was a cab back and forth over dole. It was between get to three. Try lifting your arm up when you're going like a referee does count the guy in the back court you'll get your third second almost coming down to your fourth when they finally snapped the ball to my count so the the rest blatantly you can bank play on a passenger ferrets. But that's that is a controllable call which is inexcusable. But fortunately the texans took advantage of it a touchdown so you take them how you can get them. But i i just. I don't know why people are so hung up on band. This team's got players where you tell me if you keep telling me. They got a bunch of good players. And i've tried to hell. I bought into two by watching sample. That pretty good player and that guy's a pretty good player that kind of good and most of them were on offense when you're on of good players and then you get down to it but the the the the sun does the departs while some are a few of them are fine. The some of this team is just is not good. Correct that affect played consistently as bad as not name. The jets in the maybe. I don't know the giants seem to have moments. As far as defensively goes they've played as consistently bad as any defense cowboys include. Catholics actually played better this weekend against pittsburgh but it's consistently awful as any defense in the country in the nfl this year and they're giving us all these yards bad teams like this. There's no way when. I mean if as long as baker mayfield's out there playing this week he's going to feast against them well and imagine the run game two because dave's they're committed to. I mean this is a good that they run the football pretty well in cleveland We'll discuss when we come back about the plan. That i listen to your right if mayfield having one day put it this way. It's easy to be accurate and to to to get put the texans or one of the best teams in the league at if you're having a bad offensive performance to get healthy against the if you want to eat. Play the texans defense. If you're like man i have. I'm feel a little hungry. I need to eat as a player. you'll eat when you're playing the houston texas defense. Everybody in fact they eat so much they stop themselves and they're sick after the game because they got to eat so much against texans defense it and how you can you fix who. Who are you going to get superman and batman an eight available incredible hulks not available either. Who you get. You're not getting any help on defense right now. One guy can't change this defense's might point and quite frankly offensively they're inconsistent to. Let's just say. I mean they'll put a passing yards because they have to. But the offensively watson. I'll scare you and then they'll do some silly stuff. The team will but offensively they. They'll cook points on the board. But you gotta score. Hell they damn near how to score thirty to beat jacksonville. Damn near had scored thirty to overcome jacksonville jacksonville. With a guy who'd never started a football game has life hell. I don't even know if you it. A snap. No not in the nfl going into the season so and he he. He didn't look like put it this way. If i told you this kid started would you have been able to tell me if you didn't know him and i said well how long you think he's been league. Or what have you and you wouldn't have known that it's just a rookie quarterback because he did not have any struggles you know consistently that a rookie supposed to have against a good defense. So i don't know how you know. Eight games all. Yeah i would not like to thank. There's people out there who are bs themselves into thinking. That were a player away. We meaning the texans. We'll discuss next. And how you approach the cleveland browns right now. The approaches survived. It's just surviving. Keep winning now. The colts we'll discuss the division to the colts. Don't beat any of the colts. Winning percentage the teams a colts beat. I think they're winning. Percentages like four hundred. the so. they're not real good against good teams either for the most part They're better team but they're not real good against good to good teams. So and neither is cleveland against pittsburgh and baltimore so that's the similarities. We will discuss next. It's sports talk. Seven ninety going around the league to to a looks. Pretty impressive is young. Quarterbacks are setting the world on their ear man they just every week. It's another one playing great. Football sean salisbury. Show mc josh our number two next gulf club of houston golf club houston dot com my peeps out at golf club. Houston and i am so fortunate to be part of that family with such a great group and the golf courses phenomenal phenomenal. You know it's gonna previous site of the of the houston open the tournament. Course when you go out there and play. I had an nfl buddy know when he was in town Jack del rio with me to go out there and play golf course he. He walked away san south. 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Dui as the new manager of the chicago white sox obviously refused to take breathalyzer at all that. So we'll see how that happens and what goes down with that. After just a handful of weeks removed from being a a couple of weeks removed from being the new manager named in new manager of the chicago. White sox moving forward and then you have Jeff luneau for twenty two million to file a lawsuit against the houston astros. Basically saying he was a scapegoat. The drop manfred. Jim crane Wanted to ask us to keep their championship so he became the fall. Guy basically so the question is will that lawsuit ever reach court. What happens next will jeff luna work again and That relationships obviously been Well it's it's not exactly on the best terms so we'll see where that goes. I'm not sure we'll ever hear. It would be very interesting to hear if that was ever in a court. Look what was said about major league baseball because major league baseball hasn't exactly been transparent with all this but i don't think we're going to hear anything about it probably get settled and move on right. Imagine that's going to be the case and and part of that settlement would probably be Gag order not allowed. No talking allowed a lot of times if you're going to get a settlement. I think that will look to that. There's some who'll you're not allowed to if you're going to write a book. Guess what doesn't get touched. The story exactly right right so wants. This is it. You may not hear much from About the situation depending on what the word loss it goes and if there is a settlement that i would imagine if i was the person if i was the astros at part of that settlement would be The it stops today. We were talking about it. So we'll see jefflin's sue the houston astros and twenty. Two million dollars. Seems to be the figure and then the question is will this affect or what affect will it have on jefferson his career or what is his career for a very bright guy who helped build a baseball club and says that he didn't have knowledge of it. So of what went on with the astros so We'll see and and we'll see were just career goes. I was about this guy's and we'll get to the texans. We got plenty to talk about with them but not a lot of you know. Put it this way. They don't they. Don't make you wake up in the morning pumped up about your football team right. You don't wake up in the morning you wake up in the morning so blah. It's like it's not we get to talk about him. You know what it is. We have to discuss this that that. That's how i feel. Sometimes because i feel like it's groundhog day every week. It's it's an obligation to an extent to watch them because they are the team here in the city and we want you mean for for us. We're going to have to talk about them on going to watch them even if they stink. But it's easier to be. We've talked about this yesterday to have no emotion involved in it clearly because it's a bad football team that's it. They're not good in anybody with a brain function. We actually had somebody call yesterday and they look a lot better. And you know they're they're that's that's the kind of stuff you need to see to get you back to the play offs and it's like What did we see. I mean nothing. I saw. They have they suck. I'm just trying to figure out that. It is an obligation. I will be honest with. You is a football fan. Die hard football fan. That has my computer in one lap. And tv's on and watching the nfl ticket wound scrolling around and look at it every game and then going back and watch shortened versions of so you can talk on other shows. You gotta go onto about the team. You're going to talk about like the cleveland browns this week on wednesday and fortunately for us. The opponent is cleaned brown. So i get double double dip and talking about these two teams. But i personally if i i'll tell you this if i didn't live here in half and you know we need to inform because there's nothing worse than somebody trying to come on and tell you about a team that hasn't watched right trying to analyze and breakdown a game that you didn't watch is is is not really a recipe for given fans true insight to a football team so you gotta watch and you gotta watch it right and you gotta be honest and i know some people like there are some people in some cities. Don't want you to be honest. They just want you to tell them how great their team is even if their teams not that that that is going to happen on this show unfortunately because well or fortunately. Because that's just not how we do but it is honestly. I would not watch the texans. If i did not live here and i i wouldn't either. Well we'll say at least this game is past weekend was semi entertaining from the offense the standpoint that there were points scored but i still will not watch them. I wouldn't i hate it. But it's just the truth they stink. I go back and watch some highlights at to shine. You know i'd let sportscenter show me f- five or six highlights. I need to see or the ten highlights. I need to see. I go back if i was again. Just because i'd wanna be up on where they were. But i a for instance. If i'm going i'm not watching jacksonville's games there's if there's fourteen twelve thirteen sixteen sometimes by weeks over games a week. I'm i'm not. I don't spend time watching four quarters of jacksonville jaguars football. I don't spend four times watching. I didn't watch last night's game had stuff going on scene family. I i saw plays because it was on in the background. I go look at it this morning. Watch i i didn't i could. I know the patriots won and it was a good game. And i know the jets were winning and i did tell a person last night. That was watching the jets. I don't wanna lose this. Because we're gonna get two trevor lawrence here in a second jets. Don't want to win this football game. Maybe they got to back off be told. Hey man maybe we should Quit plan well you know we. We don't want to win this game. Well i said exactly. I said don't worry about it. It's early. the jets will find a way to lose this. And i'll be damned is. That's how adam gates does but i didn't watch i mean what interests you have other than if there's a player on there you wanna watch but this it's so frustrating to watch and it's not like you it's not. I'm not going to bad mouth. Just bad mouth them but you gotta break it down to be honest football teams. It makes it very difficult to get into for four quarters. Each week is my point right and we very difficult watch and it's it doesn't give you the. Ah you're looking for juice each week and it just it doesn't give you an ibm. If i was working in another city the texans would fall into the well. Yeah i also the texans would fall into. I'll watch the highlight. That's how the texans would be if i wasn't here right now. Watching them play frustrating. But i'm never quit on them but because the quarterback but the defensively. I'm always looking for them. Have they had a. I'm looking for a signature game. I guess is my point. And i haven't got it this year. They have the beaten the jaguars twice and barely diverse. But this one was even the only up thirteen seven going to the fourth quarter right right so it is a not that they're doing it for my viewing pleasure and you'll like i said i know windsor tough to get in the league. No matter who your plan. But i think that people honestly still think that the team has chance. I just try to figure what tells you. They're going to go on a defensive run. What tells you absolutely nothing. Nothing's going to change. They're going to continue to be look and we talk. We went to the optimistic group yesterday. That their next three games are all games that they they can win. Who's a third what gets Detroit the game. They all the next three opponents. They face they could also get beat by all handily and i honestly to them on the road. I'm gonna pick them to lose two of the three guaranteed like because they're not going to stop anybody that's exactly. That's the biggest reason why. Yeah i don't know what the weather's going to be like in cleveland this week. I haven't they haven't seen the weather report but it just like. I said i pull for them. But they're hard watch. Because i i have every team that you were a signature performance of good teams. Good teams have signature performances. They haven't had one as a group this week and i. I'm not sure who you talk to yesterday. Said man now. That's the type of game makes you think they're gonna win i. I didn't see that. I saw flashes like i do every week. I'll offensively see flashes over there every single week but flashes of it. Get you to six in look at the teams that are winning even when they don't play their best. They entertained enough to win the football game against good teams pittsburgh kansas city and town. We haven't seen those teams play the best look at the tampa bay buccaneers. They're supposed to be a good team. They played like you want to. Humiliation is a worst game. I've seen a good team play in a longtime worst. I've seen a good team playing a long time. But that's neither here nor there or with the texans are here and they will. They will frustrate you week after week. We'll see with their approach to the cleveland. Browns is defensively this week sportstalk. Seventy the group is here. 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He's sweating twenty five years old so he was young when he was drafted Got experience You wouldn't have to. He's only do. Let's see what's he do. His fifth year option so he is a free agent now negoti get him cheap You will get a guy who's got some edge rushing skills and i would imagine for some at that age of venue. Change would be good. It just hasn't worked since those first two seasons when he was a really solid player. I would i would. There's a handful of teams that should look into it. I would see what he's got an attack that's one that's not going to help them win a championship. Defensively right now with the people they have but he instantly becomes one of their best address yours automatically and even though he struggled so why. Let's see what he's got under the hood. I'm all in. Yeah i would at least give it a look i would i would. I would do it. Hires on that for sure just from the standpoint of mean keep them around for next year right yeah and then like i said it's not the cheese is not expensive. You know right now. He doesn't cost that much in the could be actually a bigger reward than risk right. I mean so. If i who who hasn't struggled in atlanta the last couple of years defensively and that team finishing game so i am. Mckinley to me is worth Kicking the tires on and bring him in. Somebody's going to and it's going to happen sooner than later If you're a team that's looking for one extra player and you're on the cuss. That could really help you. And if your team is defense isn't good taxes and you could you. You may start to see some says if we can get something out of him like it landed when they made him a first round pick His first two years then. It's worth the goal. That's my opinion. So yes i would. All right sean. So super or your. Nfc favorite shruggled just to say the least their sunday night against what was the most concerning thing or what was your biggest takeaway from that game Biggest takeaway was first of all this team. How often do they put three in. Tampa bay three or five three four back to back to back games together. That a really really good. They struck they. Didn't play well against the giants. The one thing about them with all those weapons they somehow. There's something missing from the clothes you out in completely dominate. You like they did against green bay weekly because their personnel says they should might biggest takeaway was the game was. I didn't see any. Defensive adjustments drew. Brees that they've you're not. You should not against a veteran quarterback. You should not play. What's the word i'm looking for. I would never play The soft zone vanilla defense and not hit drew brees. I would take him off as mark. Drew brees is at his worse when you force me east and west and make him throw the ball down the field vertically now drew brees is when he had his worst is pretty good but he can't beat you. Push the ball down the field like you used to and sometimes struggles with. They played right into his hands. Allowed him to drop back. Throw the short stuff in zones without hitting him. They killed him. The i'll tell you what else they rushed. Five times for eight yards. Tampa bay rush five times for eight yards and again and i think the saints and the time of possession the number of plays it was like they had like thirty more. Plays than thirty or more plays than tampa bay. Did i mean the when you look at the statistics which sometimes can be misleading statistics. Statistics misleading. This was brady played awful. They didn't run the ball. The drop balls dating target proper receivers. Their todd bowles made no adjustments. And he's a good defensive coordinator tells me right now that the afc has minimum of three teams better than the innocence. Vesting right now. Kansas city pittsburgh baltimore and maybe buffalo. On a they dismantled the the seahawks defense the bottom of the third best team in the afc. Minimum of the third is better than any of the the the better tampa veteran green bay. Better new orleans better. Seattle is better than any team in the nfc. The afc's the the now the has become the better conference this year. Top heavy wise. They're better. Kansas city and pittsburgh are better far better right now than the best team in the nfc and right now the baltimore may be as well. Baltimore was playing tampa on a neutral site right. Today i would take baltimore to beat them me too. I take baltimore right now yet. I'm not going away from the tampa hopefully can get it right. I got them You know going to the world to the world championship the super bowl. And i'll tell you. Another thing is blowing homefield advantage see without fans. I'm telling you teams that. Don't the breeze doesn't want to go on the road and play in green bay in december. January damn righty does. So when i start to look at that. Who's the best suited to go on the road in the nfc. Russ and darren. Rogers you don't wanna go into green bay and have to play them in rogers and he doesn't care about that weather and with the wind and the rest of it so you had indianapolis is the same way. The colts going on the road to play pittsburgh in january. There they got no shop. They will not win. I think like you said in the. Nfc is there's not that many elite teams i saw stat yesterday. That cam newton threw for. I believe it was three hundred ninety six yards against the seahawks defense going into last night against everyone else. He only averaged one hundred and fifty six passing yards a game. That's the hawks. Devi insists on. How many think about what. We're saying about some cowboys. Texans seahawks rule defense. I mean just horrible defense atlanta. You could score on all of them. I mean every single week. It's like it's a quite frankly humiliating. So yeah i learned a now. I don't know i would've thought that tampa after. Lose them to orleans early in the season. It's a divisional game. You did not play well and had to really really earn a victory against the bad giants team. I would have thought it home that they'd been ready to play. It looked like a team that surrendered in about the middle of the first quarter. I ain't never seen that before. So one of the worst all around performances. Like i said by a team that i've ever witnessed honestly. It was embarrassing from wins the last time you would watch a team that good and say in the middle. The first quarter by halftime wanted to turn the tv off because it was a it was. It was embarrassing they were they were horrible. They got some fixing to do if they're going to gain that respect back as new orleans looked like new orleans. Look like a super bowl team. The tampa did not make it difficult on them at all right sports. Talk seven ninety steve. Tyler zola's gonna join us next. We'll get some insight on the texans and we'll try to move around the league a little bit too after we talk about the tax. There's not really a whole lot to talk about other than groundhog day. Because i can guarantee you steve's going to have to come up with well. They didn't do this. they did this to this. I'm wondering what's there to be excited about other than that. I mean the the offense can put up big place moving forward. We try to tell them. Every week tried to go a different angle and it always leads back to where they can't stop anybody. There you go sports talk. Seven hundred steve follow next. You know. it's not healthy stressing about work. You know maybe you're out of work or not getting enough hours. 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It's not rocket science. It's my computer career dot. Edu throws it doubt then house listened to rockettes radio on your smart speaker alexa. Play sports talk. Seven hundred on iheartradio hottest hottest takes in houston sports team. The sean salisbury show continues on sports. Talk seven ninety right sports. Talk seven hundred ninety seven thirty. This is our time of the week. We join steve pal. Solo senior analyst pro football focus. The grades us out in grades a local team and quite frankly getting around to great some other teams force to their insight. Steve welcome in i am. I feel like every week when you and i are talking while you give such great insight that it's kinda groundhog day watching the texas. Yes they won. But steve you and i and this is the most maddening thing about it. I can point to the same mistakes every week. And that's a problem for me on a football team. Yeah there's a lot of the stuff yes. I don't have time to add this week. You know. it's the same the same strengths and weaknesses. I think we've seen from the texans. I still wanna point back. Being encouraged by sean watson's player black three week. This wasn't this wasn't best game of the season. I think what i'm more encouraged. West actually mediocre game. I think overall for watson but great encouraged with is the lack of a disastrous game. He's had those teams in the past where he's just been so far off and he's he's avoided those for the most part so I'd be encouraged by that. I think the offense still showed Even though everything is knock clean down for down when you have fifty plus yard touchdown to bring the cook. The seventy seven hundred well fuller. I think that's what they built. This offseason is that big playability that that's in there and then gives you leeway in other in other areas so i think that was like the say but yeah but down the down consistency. Both add to the boss still still lacking for the titans. Yeah sadly if watson's the blow up games where he wasn't very good what happened against the two. The two wins. Jacksonville were a series or two would have cost them picker something wrong. They'd be on eight. Thank goodness it didn't happen in those two games because they got pushed to the brink this past week. Stay you make a point and i'm with the run game. Let's start there i. They're starting running backs down on their team in twenty twenty one. I don't think the guy who's on here now but is it. Is it obvious to you. Or am i missing something while. I'm david johnson's a nice enough guy. And he's had good moments in his career. That duke johnson should be touching the ball. More if they're gonna give if they're gonna establish something doesn't do johnson have to touching the ball more even though we don't consider him a three down back. Yeah absolutely. i mean what's the three down back and saves. nfl would you look at christian mccaffrey. And he's a three down back right now. A great duke johnson. His entire career has maximized touches. He was you know he's a guy that dabbled at playing actual wide receiver with the browns. So he lives up all over the place he Does really good job in the run game when given an opportunity now. He's left efficient this year than he's ever been but we're talking about a guy that Generally makes guys generally creates a little bit after contacts. And he's more of today's nfl type running back so Yeah there's definitely something something to that. You know as far as giving given more opportunities i think you know the the offensive line built the path for attach more than it's built run block. I think that's the key for the and again it's not the worst thing in the world. the can't kansas city is actually the same way but they're just so good everywhere else. Teams cats respects to run so they have more space so I i think that's the biggest tea. Is you know if you you pass to set up. The run in the past game continues to create big place. That is what you hope kind of opportunities. I'd say the run game. Steve you've studied. Cleveland is well both teams. Have the odd that against good teams. They don't close it out and beat good teams. Meaning the browns and the houston. Texans both have some explosive players key positions. So i would ask you this. what With these two. Teams are headed to cleveland this week if they both played their best game of the year that they've played just this year known what you know about both rosters who wins next week if they both play their best on this year's teams. Yeah i i think cleveland is is better all around you know. I think they. They've made more plays and they're back seven they have You know one of the corners in the league and award myles garrett who just makes plays up front you know. He's he's the best pass rusher in this game. If the if the best game though comes from watson versus baker mayfield. That's where we have some some questions. You know bakers just been so inconsistent. He's actually had his highest rated game. Pipe standards this year bengals and then the lowest rated game of his career which was against the steelers and they came back to back weeks and then everything around that has been a kind of a well-protected season for baker protected by the scheme. that is Where defense he's done a good job so i think the browns have cleaner all around team but as always comes down to. What does the what does the quarterback play look like and again in any given week. You get high watson who can certainly carry a team if you were trevor lawrence. Would you leave this year. Yeah i'm not. I'm not this you're not buying into this time. It because what if the jets lose and go back next year. I mean they could be the first pick next year. I mean. are you buying that. This is his last five or games as a clemson tiger. I think trevor lawrence has done in college. He's gonna come to the nfl. I mean you just you just go to just go to the team that needs you. Go be the. don't be the guy. Go be the star. I don't think the jets are gonna look as bad next year as they are this year. They've not only do they. Have they have lost her. That was not good but then also got hurt quite badly So they you know. They're they're looking worse than they probably. Are you know. And if jacksonville ends up being the team who cares. You know. they'll turn the jags around. Bye bye boy martin. Now with the star just go Go to where you have to go. In turn franchise around. I think trevor lawrence will be. When's the last time you saw a good team that we hold in high regard embarrass themselves as much as we watch the tampa bay buccaneers against New orleans this past weekend. I can't think of one. It was so cantieri. Every everything was back Defensively there was multiple times. David guys lined up whether it was a run fed or whether it's coverage is the end zone brady was off. The entire. offense was off the often. The wind got beat up. I mean it was all it was all bad But still you know when you watch the film to. It's not as bad as it feels. I mean that one felt like a single game right but it was also you know early on drew. Brees throws one right to j. p. drops it many throws a touchdown and brady has dropped touchdown in the end zone. I'm not saying that changes the outcome of the game but it probably changes the perception just to touch but overall it was beat down by the saints in a game that they needed to win both teams. They win to take control of the nfc. East south. I it was just a statement by the saints. All right stamp. Thinking about two veteran quarterbacks. Let's leave brady out of this for a second. I still think they can recover. And i would hope because i i liked him in the nfc. But i still think that. Kansas city pittsburgh and baltimore all better than the best team in the afc in the nfc. I do. I believe they are but let let me ask you this. If if new orleans and indianapolis in different conferences have to go on. The road in january in inclement weather can drew. Brees philip rivers lynn. I got a little bit more faith. In breeze than rivers rivers rivers. Neither one has a good arm at this point. Breeze is playing with that. My my podcast called the accuracy slider like dramatic jacked up to one hundred or the intimidation slider jacked up to one hundred. Right he's still sees the game as quickly and as clearly as any quarterback this degree. I could see him handling it but by the way we're also one week removed from him playing chicago in the howling winds. He had one of his grade of the last four years by our numbers. He's got with thought he should have thrown two picks. He should've thrown a picnic and the game overtime and another one that actually could have ended the game. Eddie jackson so i think the saints certainly much better. Different team outdoors would rivers. Yeah part of his issue is he. Doesn't have that level of anticipation and accuracy. The freeze does Plus import decision making their plus. Any hint of pressure and rivers is Just not feeling it right now. It doesn't have the maneuverability of the pocket so I definitely trust a little rivers in those situations. Did anybody like josh. Josh allen i think was twenty at twenty with windows of three yards. didn't volume hit the ground as mahomes past russell. Wilson is the. Mvp front runner. I would say no i think. You know wilson did throw the game away a little bit. But i think we sweep. Think we get too much into this week to week. Russell wilson young. Someone else gets into what i mean. People are gonna look at mahomes and say twenty five touchdowns and one interception and he is not in the mvp conversation because of twenty six plays. he's not. He has six stream passes for touchdowns more than anybody in the league and he had about five or six dropped interception. So if you're just looking at those twenty six played and saints. Mvp you're missing it Love isn't the mvp compensation because he's awesome and still playing well but wilson still claims phenomenal. Yeah yeah yeah. He's the homes is not playing as well as russell. Wilson aaron rodgers this season so i still would put them ahead of mahomes and that's not take anything away from patrick but you know he has. He is so well protected in that system when he has a bad day the stats. They'll look good other players. Don't have that luxury in their respective system. So mahomes is really good. But it's not because twenty five touchdowns and one interception. That's not telling the whole story. And steve let you on this. I honestly and watching mahomes. I mean i know you watch it and studied every week and watching pittsburgh and ben and mahomes and kansas city. Every week i i honestly do not believe yet. That eater quarterback has played their best game this year with dan. They're finding ways to win and they're both very good and make have slashes where it's like. Oh my gosh and we know how special mahomes is. But i don't think either one of them have been the home sharp. That did if he has that game lookout and he said you know you look at the numbers but i'm just talking about the deep inside stuff that you study your that i'm looking at. I don't think ben in mahomes have had their best games yet this year. Yeah i agree overall mahomes. I'd say maybe the raven game right at night. Football the jets game for whatever it's worth. I mean it was against the jets. Say the raymond game. Was that from a home but big ben. Same thing i mean we. We got steelers. Fans all riled up. Say look big. Ben's middle tier quarterback this year as far as how he's playing. He's doing his job. Well he's playing calling alex smith. You know he's taking care of the ball distributing playmakers. He's not taking turn it over. But yeah i. I would look at that and being courage. If you're the steelers and say yeah. Big then. Got more in the take in their undefeated without complaints football. I completely agree with that as an a crazy mahomes is doing this and i just said well have seen his best football this year. It's pretty scary with those weapons what they can bring to the table on any given night. It's frightening to watch steve. Great stuff man. Have a good week. And i know you'll be back at it and we'll look forward to break down this browns and texans game and see if something changes in our groundhog day conversation about the houston texas football club. I always appreciate brother. Thank you got it. Thank you john for accents. 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Jeff sebastian at classic chevy sugarland classic chevy highway six chevy highway six on sundays sports. Talk seven ninety so steep. Pelizzoli was pretty cut and dry about less than you go. Where your drafted and go change the franchise around and play. Are you guys. Let me ask both of you guys this. What would you do if you were. Trevor lawrence is gonna do. What would your families. Are you advise you to do. If if you're coming out this year the jets were going to be the first pick. You go where your drafted period. That's that's what i would do. I wouldn't consider anything else. I wouldn't would you. Would you stay in school. Would you stay in school If i didn't love the spot i would. I would stay in school over forcing a trade and doing that. Whole drama and create net situation. Yeah here's the order for me before josh before you answer one is if you've made the decision to go out you kick but the rest of the college football season hopefully get back to a championship play well and you leave the first pick of the draft. You didn't you didn't i. At no time that we hear. Here's two things i know. We grew up doing whether your football baseball bat fell safer me and although baseball basketball where my love's first but you want a number one be the best play you want to say. I'm going to be the starting quarterback four and we all grew up loving our team right. I was the oakland raiders. But as time goes on while you have your team you never grew saying. I'm starting quarterback for the oakland raiders in the first pick of the draft or nobody else. That's not what we did growing up as kids. It was like matt love to play for my hometown team. I want to be the starting quarterback or the center fielder shortstop for the astros center fielder for the yankees. Or you know. I want to point guard for the lakers. Whatever it is so we grew up. Saying i want to be the starting player for our favorite team but as time goes on while it's a dream. I don't remember college. Saint if i don't play for the raiders. And i don't wanna play football so if you're trevor lawrence and we don't know maybe the jets are team that he liked up. I don't know but i can tell you this. The number one way you do is if you made the decision to go out you go you go play for whoever takes you period. Secondly if you decide you're not sure want to stay beco- back to clemson and play another year and have a blast and be in position to win another national title and probably a heisman trophy or at least be in that position because after missing two games you may have lost out on that opportunity this year and then number three is you want to force the hand. i think. That's the last option josh. What would you do. Yeah i think if there is a chance that there was someone else who could are. There wasn't as high of a chance that the jets were just going to be the first picnics years. Well i would consider maybe coming back but at that point i would also sit out the year not risk the injury because while trevor lawrence even if he gets injured still probably would be the first pick. You don't take that beating. Don't take the chance of getting hurt or blowing. Acl doing anything like that. When you have that money much pocket right now right and that's why you go play. If you're going to get injured you might as well get injured under contract right exactly. Go play unless you have a big insurance policy which maybe does clemson. But you know what. I never have made a decision. Like what if. I get hurt but but they have to now. I mean the money so big and you have to think about your career but for me the and even the last option is to sit out a season right. I wouldn't do that. I'm talking about a full season next year of. You're going to be starting quarterback at clemson. Your decided not to go on the draft. Replaying all our games. I don't ever. And i understand it for a guy like boasts that when he got hurt. Couldn't come back. And then set out the last handful of games for ohio state and then was drafted. I get it. But i would never encourage a quarterback to sit out a full season. Would you guys. I just don't believe in that. I hate it russ could make you just look terrible whereas you come out as a rookie and then that could lead to snowball effect of. Hey do we believe in this guy you start to lose your confidence as well as just as it's tough to to sit out but i can get it for guys like a leonard fournette and things like that where that wear and tear on a running back is one thing quarterback. You don't really need to sit out. You just go get your money when you can pretty much. I think that i'd be willing to. I don't know what the gambling odds are. But i'd be willing to gamble that there's no question in my mind. Trevor lawrence goes in his first pick of the draft and doesn't demand that somebody trade him. If it's the jets. And i'd just i still don't see him asking for trade i don't either. I don't believe. Just watch perot doing me. How many times is the main thing even happen to manning. Elway doesn't lead to long time. What happened did mike. Michael vick said he wouldn't go to the charges but they ended up not getting the first pick right right so he didn't have to face it. Yeah of the two studs of now. Andrew luck went back to school. And maybe that had something to do with who was supposed to go to it. Wasn't luck gonna be or was he going to be drafted because luck went back to school. Now you can either say he just loved going to college and one which you said you definitely by the andrew low school no question about it so yeah or if it was like he made it seem like he loved going to school but decided. I don't wanna play for that team. But i can picture andrew luck state. Nah i'm gonna stay. I love this calls life school right it. It was by the way it was the carolina. Panthers there you go okay. So cam newton been that awful right so there then hell. They may have taken him anyway if they fell in love. You don't know we don't know that it taken right. You would think andrew lucked with was a stud to coming out of school so just interesting. I don't believe. Trevor lawrence how how would this change that draft by the way lock does come out you think by your of pride takes number one denver right number two they von miller they probably take cam newton there. Oh for more than likely. Yeah more than likely they have no they. They had quarterback manning was already there and he was always there yet. Tibo very i pay. Was that math that next season. So that was josh mcdaniels. Coaching the team. At the time. That was good. Lord had to be john fox his. There's john fox than john fox's fox first year okay interesting. And he's a defensive guy so you makes you wonder what they have taken cam newton and built for the future or would they have jumped all over and stayed with miller. They went eight eight year. Interesting turn quarterback. Private wasn't any good very very well. Could have changed. We'll discuss but what would you do if you were trevor lawrence. I can tell you this clemson's quarterback situations good for the next couple years largely to tell you that we do We got lay is pretty good by the way no other. Well there you go after. I after taking him into first round. We'll discuss trevor lawrence and his future sports talk seven. Ninety sean sows we shall whitsett vision. 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Mahomes is twenty five and one. I want you guys to think about the take about this now. Mahomes hundred touchdowns in three years in his throne. How many picks did you say josh. Eighteen nineteen picks. Now you now. let's just assume. First of all the touchdown to interception ratio stupid when you compare them to like at this same stage when far when rodgers gets to four hundred. He's like two hundred. Ticks lesser hundred and eighty picks less than Farve less he has not had. He's had two seasons of double digit interceptions. Just doesn't throw laws. Goes two thousand ten yet. Still thrown in making big plays off ballots. You know what i'm saying on. How many how many over the last three seasons do you think he has picks yeah eight. That's exactly right eight. It's it's it's some guys will throw that in four weeks okay. Now i want you to fathom this and both ways number one. How good mahomes is at at his rate. But you think about this now. Think what we how the regard we hold mahomes and his hell explosives with all those weapons. Let's assume that he has a fifteen year career and averages which is pretty phenomenal. That you're you're talking about zoo thirty three and a third touchdowns a year okay. Which in this leaks pretty good. Let's just say over the next fifteen over the next twelve years. He does the same so for fifteen years. The averages one hundred touchdowns every three years. That's what five hundred touchdowns right. Yeah he's going to break the right her by lot but think about it well but think about this so it looks phenomenal. And his touchdown interception ratio will be through the roof as good as he is. But you think about this. Do you know how how lucky you gotta beat a play fifteen years in this. This leaked the where you just expect like. I mean the the franchise quarterback is playing that long because they don't have too many examples of them not basically playing that long right right but you start to think about guys who i mean cam. You think cam's going to get to fifteen years now. But he's a star. He's not that plays right. He plays a little more getting beat up and knocked around and he runs. Physical point is though even then as good as you think about even then now he may have a season where mahomes goes back to back fifty touchdown seasons. He's at good thirty. Three may be on the low side for him as we continue to roll on once. Say this facetiously ineffectually. Once he learns how to play okay and and even understanding what would he gets even more grasping this game. It could be frightening once he on pace for this season. It's gotta be forty something. Well he's he's twenty five eight games. Now are the nine they are. They're nine games for almost fifties on pace for forty eight. Forty six to forty eight hours ago finished. He's on pace for forty seven hundred yards forty four touchdowns in two picks and may not win the mvp. Yeah if he's all those numbers that you can't not win the mvp if he will unless unless of course with russia's defense and he goes russell roll the ball the team though right roscoe's forty eight and fifteen and they make the playoffs a thirteen touchdowns thirteen interception. I don't know if russell though that many but you're right did it could be. Maybe i don't think homes is out of this mvp race. Let's just put it that way. And that's an understatement. But think about this though. Averaging almost thirty five touchdowns a year if he averaged thirty five touchdowns a year for the next twelve years. You know what he's not going to be ahead of brady and brees. Yeah so we're looking this guys. I mean if we if we parlayed this out. We're looking at mount rushmore guy right. I mean we're looking at one of the not only skill set. But his skill set is touchdown performance will match the potential assume. He's going to be mount rushmore guy. Right i would. I think it's and while maybe an assumption the performances barron itself out quickly. okay. I'm with you one hundred percent but you think about what he has to do and what he is doing. And what a tribute to the longevity of reason and not just longevity but you know how a lot of guys will play really good for a decade and then we start to see their game then they start throwing twenty five touchdowns a year. You know what. I mean twenty. It's just start to see a tail off unless it's the but the brady brees rivers. They still keep putting up touchdown. Numbers i trip out. Because i can you imagine though. And all that. And you still haven't reached those guys touchdown passes because their longevity and brady still not done and brees. Maybe he's done at the end of this year and and working at nbc. Which i think he will be. But you start to think about that. How phenomenal it is what it's going to take to get to six hundred touchdown pass now. Mahomes is definitely capable but good gracious. They make this guy's a sizable. I promise you supposed to be this easy it now. Maybe it's they. It's not easy to them but it sure looks like like the mahomes of the world make it look easy. Don't they just like bingo at no time when they're playing do i ever think that he's not gonna take it down score. It's weird. i mean. I just always believe he's gonna make me a throw. That gets him in the end zone. And andy reid gonna dial it up but you look at all those guys that all those guys get a chance to make things happen right and get a chance to to put the ball in the air and mahomes can have an unbelievable career and at fifteen years still not be the all time touchdown leader which is hard for me to fathom and we we talked about extrapolate or whatever. The proper term is mahomes. Doing exactly what he's been doing for that fifteen years he'd be at around like five hundred. Td's and ninety five total picks that that part is why he ends up. Like i mean if there's a guy that's going to flirt with it it might be him but they also throw the ball so much that at some point he's going to have your big. He's going to have a season where he goes back to like. Twelve picks has a few of them. He's got away. Mahomes has got away with some this year. It should be higher. But you can say that about every quarterback you know a an interception dropped. But here's another thing that's fascinating to me about the mahomes thing. He's not in a. Hey let's Low risk football operation. He's not a low risk offense now. The low risk part of it is the screen game. They throw a lotta screens slow screens. Bubble screen smokescreens tied in bubble screens at the goal line. They saw a lot of those high-percentage not not as easy throws from the angle. Trust me and coach the people think high-percentage but as often as he pushes the ball down the field and throws off schedule and off bounds. They pushed all this is. Hey let's protect the football. We're not gonna take chances offense. You know what i mean. They don't play horizontal football all the time they mix it in but they ain't afraid to take shots and push the ball down the field as we've seen a million times in his three year career at his third year starting so it's just pretty fascinating that he still protects the ball so well but can make throws in windows. Two other cats wouldn't even attempt. I just am fascinated by the numbers game. Which leaves you to say. Guys are quarterbacks and then from josh allen who's obviously on a charge we got some really good players at this position man i mean and in homes is the very best of the best and you know the guys behind him a pretty good not in his team. I'm talking about all over the league. The guys at art. Patrick mahomes any other. Time would be the consistent you know. Oh in a lamar jackson mary. Russell wilson to shawn watson. I mean these guys are all so phenomenal yet. The buck stops at mahomes. When we're saying build a team and it goes to no other player it stops there there. It's not it's not. This is close now. As good as a quarterback position is when jerry rice was the wide receiver in the league. It was rice. Still is rice. Randy moss probably the closest second now after their careers but is rice rice rice. Rice rice. Tell me is there one. Gm in this leagues did taken anybody. But mahomes i no matter who their current quarterback is. If you can't right now. I mean it's it's a unanimous decision correct regardless what they tell you in public about their correct net right. I haven't been having to be behind. Closed doors texas it here in love to shawn watson if you could go to them and say you can have patrick mahomes to they want to say. Thank you for your service to show. Yes we're going to patrick mahomes. Not even and they wouldn't question it and if they did. They wish they'd be stupid. I love or anybody any of the young good young coordinator Anybody it'd be stupid to say. I don't want that guy thirty. Two head. coaches thirty. Two quarterbacks are sitting in an office right now and and we're not going to know who says what and they're sitting around and it's it's a private you know a pentagon style private meeting. Guess what they're all saying near sixty four cats you know they're saying i've got the first pick dude who you want one of those fun. Fantasy joke drafts. We all okay. You got i bit. What if you had a. Who would you take every single one of them. Choose them mahomes correct. And if they don't then. I got a question what sport they're watching correct. Yes you hit him on the head. And say yeah. Va today. that's a that's a great one. Yeah or are you have one of those snickers bar moments come on. It's mahomes and that's saying something because we've got some great players at that position but no greater right now. The number fifteen. Kansas city when it comes to overall building a franchise in doing the things he can do. And there's some really good ones doing it. Sports talk seven ninety shot south. My peeps are here. The phone number seven one three to five seven hundred eighty. If you disagree on the fact that would you take somebody else. Other than one of those dan. Patrick mahomes to start your franchise prove it call in and let us know no matter what team. You're on sean salisbury. Show soda at home program soda weight loss s. Ot at stamps her state of the art right. Let's be honest if you're struggling with your weight and you're like i need to go on a diet. Don't say that word around me diets and appetizer. Suppressant till's it. You're gonna go right back. That's not soda. Come at me and say. I want to change my lifestyle. I wanna weight loss program. I got it. 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How are you stopping the run game because it is the best one two punch in the league over under two hundred rushing yards the over. What jacksonville we just talked about. This is that they were in for one hundred forty something. I think they outgained you in that game. Oh yeah over. Under two hundred yards between them. The entire time saver thirty four carries for upper one eighty s. Yeah pushing two hundred. And i would. I would be hard pressed not to take the over in the game. I don't know and especially of the chubs if he's practicing now and he's got fresh legs and determined to get back at it. It's not a good sign. I don. I don't listen when you when your biggest strength for your team. When they're both healthy is running that football. No matter what you say about baker mayfield myles garrett. Obviously maybe their best player. But i've talking about their defense isn't their biggest strength their biggest strength. They're going good as is the they they can run the football and if chubb is right you're dealing with the you're you're gonna have a hard time because that they would have to play a wing. I'm just trying to figure out where they're going to get are you. Are you going to have these guts and say well. We're just gonna load at the box and well. That hasn't stopped anybody yet. But you look at the box and stop the run game for them. Baker mayfield is capable of beating man coverage he's going to. I mean like the texans. They don't have anybody if a rookie like luton can go out there and do what. He did baker mayfield. I don't care how badly i think he's done isn't nfl quarterback overall compared to where the rookie year was. He's going to feast against the texans. Cashew saying that. I'm with you. I hate the you know having to go in weekly thinking this is. This is what i mean. You know. the texans are the capable of beaten a brown jacket. I honestly the browser tail two teams. One week i'm thinking man. This is really impressive to watch the next week. I'm like these guys. These guys are not a playoff team. That's been the browns. But you know they're still in playoff position obviously and they're really the record says but look they'd beat the they haven't beat but then they're planet to and sixteen right. Yeah this should fall into the category of good quarterback daily not not difficult to beat the text attacks by the way of giving up over two hundred yards rushing to two teams this year. I'm guessing you can guess which ones that were. Tennessee correct and look. Give me their teams. They've played again pittsburgh. No pittsburgh didn't get yards. They did not Tennessee it's another north team. Oh baltimore baltimore. Baltimore had to thirty on thirty seven carries and tennessee. They had to sixty three. I'm twenty seven cares. Yes take this thirty sixty three yes. That's like big twelve. That's like big twelve playing against an fcs school right. It's it's nuts or an sec planning against an fcs school that they you know. They're favored by thirty eight to win. The game. i i. I don't if cleveland smart. They're at their best. Look their record when baker mayfield stolen under thirty times. Twenty three twenty five. He's at his bed now. He had twenty three in a row. The data ended up being. What was he twenty. Three to twenty eight through less than thirty times misses i five against cincinnati and then went on to complete i think twenty two twenty three straight and then the game ended so when you take a look i mean. They still through under thirty times. Throwing under thirty times for baker mayfield is worked wonders rushing the ball in the thirties and winning the the attempts running over again yesterday The attempts it's overwhelming number of teams win games. You'll get the aberration or kansas city. Can throw red half the time. It's still beat you. But they're screen game as we've talked about is nothing more than an extension of the run so but it's overwhelming again attempts and they're going to get a lot of attempts. Why if you're watching the tape with the cleveland browns. Do anything different. There's no let's come into the rescue. The phone number seven one three two one two five seven ninety. I like to know what's coming to the rescue this week. The tells you you're stopping the cleveland browns. Because if you look at their weapons don't aren't they one of the three or four best teams at texans. I mean weapons wise. Yeah a parameter. That the texans will have played this year so far even without odell beckham. They're going to be insanely difficult. Yes as good weapons as gets right. So i just i'm actually tripping over. How how come up with this win on defense now than they score. Sure how you block in if myles garrett moves around you how you can block him this week. No they're not going to. I mean like pals was saying. They're definitely but i felt like they had they had deployed zach fulton way too much i think lie but they they were terrible against the jags. That passed protecting to sean. Everybody was like love. And the i thought the offense. They made some big plays in the passing game which they do every week. I actually thought that the texans offense was just okay. This past all completely agree because it was great early like you said with the big plays and then it went just mia for a lengthy period. Four quarters where they've been great right. I was watching it. And thought. I this is i mean we watch the game. I'm like i was thank goodness. They made a couple of big plays in some runs after the catch and the the one where there was a delay game didn't get called and hit will fuller but overall i was like okay. This was very it was uneventful. It was like okay. They should throw for that and made some big plays. But when i saw a couple of yeah now this is the way you're supposed to look. I don't know what that met because it just to me it was. I thought it was a very inconsistent. The win i'll take. I guess they're tough to come by. But i thought it was a very inconsistent and kind of blah offensive performance. Didn't you guys did. I miss them. No it was completely blah and uninspiring and outside of the big place. I mean i guess it was uninspiring because there was just a lack of consistency and there was absolutely and that's their one facet a team. We're watching it. They can only throw the football. They can't run teams know what they're going to do. Isn't it weird. How we say every week like you said. Mc and we do this all we all do and and rightfully so we so well because a quarterback they could win the next three. Do not often. We said that will they could win. We say could win every yeah every week they could win but you know what. There's a really good chance they won't win totally secure that they can. They're going to hammer the new england patriots in two weeks. I mean no because much as bad a season overall cam newton has having he he and that offense should be able to guess what moved the ball on. You i. I'm just trying to figure out how we're gonna come out of a game this year where we like when the grades come out. We're like yes. That looked like a team i saw at points last year. So it's just. I i want the win. I'll take it to in both wins game against jacksonville. You got a chance to go on the road and get a. I don't know if i'd call it a signature win but against a good team. Who's in playoff hunt on the road. At who knows about the weather and pull off a win against a team that can run the football and got good weapons. You gotta show me something. And i know we keep saying they can win but i got to see three or four and you know what josh. You mentioned it during a break. This team is great at this going on about a two or three game. Run and people's ears perk up. There is see were close. We're not far out of it and then losing a couple of games where they had a chance to win and breaking your heart. I've seen this movie man. I have seen this movie. But i'll tell you this movie i haven't seen is their defense. This bad since. I've been in the city. Yeah we haven't seen this. This is the we tried it was. We found the years the two thousand ten team this. This defense is worse than the two thousand and ten team in the two thousand ten team was horrible on defense. Yeah and i wasn't here in town at the time nationally. Yes when you're seen it from outside but living in test. I've been here in the city. For seven years. This is by far the most inconsistent team and the worst team. I've seen when it comes to overall put sixty minutes together and on defense it's not close and i can't imagine what it looked like number four wasn't playing. I can't. I can't imagine it'd be really. Yeah they want a game. If he wasn't i don't i don't think they can quarterback for that. I feel like they could luck into a win against jacksonville. Just 'cause jacksonville so so bad but josh's right you can't guarantee if they would have won either of those. Mit they might be one seven zero eight team right now. Yeah and you got one of the best quarterbacks right yeah you got one of the best quarterbacks at a league and you're still to in six and the only team that you beat our jacksonville with quite frankly with most people thought was kind of backup. Quarterbacks i think is a good player but they haven't beaten a great quarterback yet sports talk seven ninety rolling on. It's it's interesting seven one three two one two five seven ninety gives us something good to go on folks gigi we. We need a little uplifting about texans this weekend against the cleveland browns shirt salary show our number three with mc and josh here on sports. 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Seven hundred ninety crew is here taking your call seven three two one two five seven ninety update on some news tony larussa. Dui new manager chicago white sox tough way to start. Jeff leno's suing the astros for twenty two million dollars basically breach a contract Saying he was used as a scapegoat. So the astros could keep their world championship and basically was pushed off on him and he doesn't like it when he the astros and we'll see where this goes and wonder if it's gonna get uglier or if it's going to get settled if aleve and make it to court and hopefully by the way the news. The report was out yesterday that they are attempting to get a deal. Done michael brandon brass. He's interested in returning as well. That would be a positive for the astros. Obviously yeah wouldn't they. The thing for me is what would stop them from attempting to get a deal done with them. I mean this should be a foregone conclusion. correct. I i completely agree. I think that was a i said yesterday. I think they knew is a must do. And they're operating as if it's a must do and clearly him being interested in coming back is the most important thing because he probably have his pick of places to go and i have a feeling that they watch like. He's one of the guys that i think gets off the mark quickly. The rest of them are going to sit forever. He'll get a deal done just to stay here which in turn. Which would the only bad news about that. Which means that it. George springer won't be here and i think we do that anyway but more than likely that the odds of both them coming back are slamming pretty close to none. I would assume so. If i think we we thought we've seen george springer take his last at bat here but this may even validate but probably a much better chance of signing michael brantley than you would george springer to and less money correct. Oh yeah over the long haul. So but michael bradley i agree with you. I don't see him being let it fester guy right being getting this done and became a free agent a few years ago when he signed here it was he didn't he was one of the guys that again didn't sit around all winter like he pounds on it pretty quick so do the astros that kind of like that guy. I mean i understand why people want to get all the cabinet. If you think you've gotten close to what you want and you like the security and you can get back to business. As usual and work. He seems like kind of just matches his personnel. He lasted less than a month. A free agency. He signed an early december last time. Around so helluva player and just goes to goes to work. What a great example for young and old alike veteran players and young players to just how to do how to do work then. He's good at it and he you know you hear the term professional hitter with him. He's just a pro all the way around in every in every aspect of the way he approaches his craft biscuit. Welcome in and by the way texas am have. What do they say. Stalled or temporarily halted football operations because of covid test. Trevor lawrence should be back this week. Arkansas head coach has covered positive tests. They're they're just they've just got it. They're gonna continue to filter all around the country and we should be used to this Not the we think it's okay but used to for the fact that people are going to test positive biscuit. Welcome in a the morning till you fellas. Hey johnny and and how you guys talking about the texans and I i had a question for you. Because i'm watching the game and Want a certain player when substituted him. It just seemed like it was a break. And i'm looking at the running back position and with the team they got on. It just seems like johnson is just a better fit than david johnson and adding to the trae look even worse but my question is as a quarterback. What's way to quarterback quarterback the hey man you know on like that i can. I get this the game a little bit more. I mean do you. Can you as a quarterback starting quarterback signing can you go into that also coordinators the head coach in a private office and know nobody around us. Hey let's go with. This is that that doesn't happen own regular regular occurrence biscuit. Thanks for the call. Let me let me respond. That is it happens all the time. It's not a knock on player coaches lakota players for solicited advice and say. Hey man what do you what do you think about. How do you feel about this receiver. It doesn't mean they're not from a personal they're talking about how how how is he in the huddle house. He practicing. Why because who would know better than the guy is thrown to a receiver and as a running back. Goes you know. Sometimes you'll get alignment that you're standing around limelight. Come up to you and say mandy. He just hits the hole faster. And then the next thing you know the quarterback's let me off of it like you say you never got a bad mouth. The guy david johnson's a good guy. But the fact of the matter is in bisky hip a really good point on another part of it is when you said. Hey i don't make the trade look worse and you are one hundred percent correct with. Guess what you can't do operate like that because if you operate like that guess what happens is you as a franchisee get worse. You can't be in the lifetime achievement or all. We got david johnson. We gotta make sure we've experimented. We're eight weeks into the season. David johnson is not as good as duke. Johnson it's fact and it's it's obvious to see i mean he's he just is a better player right now and it doesn't make david johnson a bad guy and but i think and you make a good point biscuit but i think that we've already realized that trait sucked so now to the texans smart football team. Say this sucked. It's time let's go fix this. Let's give our team the best chance to win moving forward knowing that david johnson's not going to be on your franchise next year and duke may very well not be either so but i i. You have to make a decision. What gives us the best chance. So yes does does shawn watson reserve the right to walk into romeo cornell say coach or tim kelly the play more. Of course he does and it's not like. Hey i don't like david johnson and you wouldn't do it out loud or embarrass a guy but yes it's responsible. I believe the quarterbacks job all the time or the leaders on the defensive player and you're the middle linebacker and your sam linebacker is coming up and saying hey man or he's not playing good football and every day he's putting your middle linebacker and defensive bind. Don't you at some point if you're the middle linebacker talked to the defensive coordinator position coach. Say did he's lost. Gotta get somebody who understands more that that's not being mean that's just the truth putting our job. Yes you're putting our job in danger so yes biscuit. If the shawn watson likes david. Johnson great likes to the same about liken. You can respect a guy still and like a guy but go behind say coach. Our offense is better with this guy we got. We got a plan and quite frankly. If you're coaching you don't listen then. You're not watching the same that the rest of us are watching. Or what to sean saying. Yes you're comes a point time when you just can't follow let's just toe the line and the the trade sucked but we gotta protect the trade. Because and i think that's what you're saying we just got a biscuit. We just gotta you gotta move on and realise. The trade was not a good trade. So what are you going to do next. Play the guy that you've turned you're making the duke. Johnson trade not a good trade by not playing him that was a third round. Tick conditional so now. You're making it will. That guy's not even getting any run. So that's just as bad with the second round or not. I mean notwithstanding deshaun deandre hopkins. So yes you're damn right you got to. That guy has got to. You've got to let them know you just do but it is and you're right when you saw the other guy come in. He hits faster he just does so it works. Doug welcome in how you doing our young good. What's on your mind. Hey i heard discussing the brantley situation. And i rated the astros. Go ahead and resign him. I'm just not really understanding. Why what the whole situation is. We can't have them both. We can't find him in springer you got burland or green tea. That are going to be coming off the books in the next couple of years. And that's basically seventy seventy million dollars. So i'm not real sure what the astros are thinking like. I mean they have these studs that are all under contract for the next five years bitching and we're concerned about all. We've got to figure out what we're going to do in center field. I mean it just doesn't make any sense to me. Hey doug thanks for the call. I think part of it is a day. Use it right. I think you can do it financially. If you want to to. In a free agent contract guess what you have to have to to to players us and the guy that played the position in the negotiation. He's got wanna stay in. You got want to keep them for the right price and then you start to look at okay if we signed to a five year deal. How old will he be. That deals over for the money. We're paying him and so the question is does it fit. It's not a matter of next year. Could they fit. Brantley and george springer under sure could. Yeah the sure they could but the question is do you want to. And you feel. It's best for your future and your team moving ahead. I love springer rally. I think that. I think in their minds that they've already resign themselves to the fact that they may make a small go at george. I don't think they've. I don't think they believe they're gonna make the pitch. That's going to keep springer in. Houston i don't want him back. It's just against the fact that he's thirty one years old and james clerk came from a franchise that doesn't operate on signing old players analytics. Don't say sign old players. He's not old but he is an older player and they're going to prioritize signing younger players. So i have. I mean brantley not younger. But he's a short term deal. You live with that like. They're going to prioritize. I think signing carlos correa period. And quite frankly probably understand. Although it's a bummer. Right yeah i'm talking about. I mean honestly in the business from the business side of it. I wouldn't consider signing george springer as well period. You're a businessman as a fan. I want him here yesterday. Yes that's just not going happen right. We can discuss. And i know fans are the exile that goes with it. Hopefully michael brantley all limit your anxiety a little bit more and They can get this deal done. Texans take on cleveland browns. This weekend looks like nick. Chubb is going to be practicing all week and more than likely will play this week. This doesn't bode well in the run game much to discuss. You know what's not healthy though will play against a good running team if you're the texas defense but also stressing about work. Maybe you're out of work lost hours. You're not getting enough hours. You need to stop stressing hit the reset button. Because i got a great option for you and you could start a new life as an it. Pro and internet information technology professional as little as four months from the comfort of your own home was zero computer experience instead of waiting to see what happens next. Let's like when life gets back to normal and quotes. Why don't we just take care of that now and get ahead of it and get ahead of your future now by jumping on it. 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It's going to rain pickling got you think yes. It is and Teams that stan to improve themselves That are really good already. We will discuss sportstalk seven ninety and we were talking about duke johnson and number forty Josh romeo cornell on duke johnson's performance now it wasn't oh my gosh stellar to the point. Where a blue your doors off. But she did see something different. It looked a little bit different. Here's a romeo cornell. Had to save duke johnson as a running back. I like the fact that he was able to step in and Get some tough yards. He stepped up and he blocked protection. he can catch the ball out of the backfield. That's why we had those those two guys. They complement each other. Have david duke will take the load and i think we'll like what we see From him doing that job and he did nice job. Yeah you will like what you see. Can we get more of him. Need to get more of him With duke johnson and he also mentioned about the shawn watson and he spent time and time again number. Thirty on the shawn watson and and how good he is and heroes romeo cornell onto sean this past weekend you this describe that he has going. I think that's going to help the team quite a bit. And you know his running ability as we talked last night. I mean you know. You really don't want him to have to run But when he does he's got a knack for feeling the the rush of the pressure and being able to to get himself out of trouble and so We'll let him run if you can stay out of trouble guys. I heard that comment previously. I i don't why don't you want him to run. I don't know because this team we've gone over this. A million times no incentive to losing games. They should actually try to win them. And they have absolute zero running threat and you should be letting them run the football. I don't care like watching guys. Run all over the place running. This is different. I know i know. Romeo came in the league longtime ago. I don't understand now. Do i want him to have to bail all the time. No on of course not. Of course. I don't i don't want that. Nobody does. But i'm just i don't know why we'd say we don't want him to have to run. Don't know are they running the ball pretty well with quarterback in buffalo doing okay. How about the quarterback in seattle. Doing all right now. Aaron doesn't have to because he just different yes he can. You extend plays a guy in baltimore. Ultimate is not bad. Kyle kansas city chiefs arizona. Miami i mean i don't i don't know why we're discouraging that matter of fact. I'm under the impression that we should call more. Designed runs for to shawn watson giving him on the edge to create pressure on a defense see. Here's what happens when a defense doesn't feel pressured to ways and they just dominate you one way and then every single. Then everything's more heightened. Every single thing you do in the passing game has to be perfect now. Does shawn had a decent gambling. I watch he missed some throws it were wide open and then he makes some throws you say damn good okay so for this past week it was just. It was for shawn watson in my mind. It was an for him. Judging were his bars. I thought it was an average game for him. I did. I thought it was just kind of a. It was enough to win. And how do you played like that against kansas city. They got blown out of the building considering all the restless stuff right. Yeah i mean. The other quarterback was a good quarterback and a good team. The jacksonville is not a good team. And to sean t threw for two hundred eighty eight and he was. He was solid. But i've seen him play far better and he missed some throws it. Well did he shouldn't miss and that's okay but imagine the windows that are open if you the effective not only in the run but if he becomes a run through most of the showers runs if not it seems to me ninety percent of them happen out of him stepping out of trouble now if romeo speaking of that will you don't want it to run like half to run like that no sweat there a. Yeah you want protection to be sewn up. But i don't know why we discourage a guy from breaking defenses heart. I really don't i. I've never understood it. Well we don't want to get hurt a say again. The most vicious hits quarterbacks take unless lesser dumb running the football meaning don't know how to protect themselves and decide they wanna take on the best strong safety in the league doubt that's that's dumb right less third and five and you gotta get me. You know six yards in. It's the fourth quarter. Don't take the guy on but there's also smart running and getting to the point where you get out. Put pressure on him when he makes those runs but designed runs to put pressure on the defense. I would love to see more than non forced runs and more design runs. Now i'm not talking about lamar jackson style. But everytime sean breaks the pocket runs he gets me eight. Ten twelve yards. Don't you agree. Look what it's doing for. Josh allen when winces at his best. He's doing both right he's struggled. I mean it's just. I don't understand why the discouragement of that makes any sense. They have no run game. So i i'm not going to your best running back your quarterback. Yes yes you hands in that way right. That's exactly right so i to me. I think the discouragement of will. We don't want to run since the wrong message is the encouragement should be. We want him to run. Because guess what happens when your best football player has a football in his hands. Plays or made do yes sir. Good thanks good. Thanks actually have a chance to happen. See what we don't want. Mc is like when when altuve as having on rolling we don't want him with the bat in his hands when he said they're rolling. He's hitting everything. Hey writing lay down a bunt right here right right or take every pitch that comes right down to you know. Take the tissue. Just don't go swing at it. No we want you to swing at him and we want you to do your thing. I don't wanna take the ball out of my best players hands the hell the more i could put it in hands the happier i am. That's just me. Maybe i'm selfish. But it gives me the best chance to win and limits. My defense happened to be on the field and we have breaking news real quick by the way the in nba the nfl. Ben rothlisberger has been put placed on the covid list. Well benjamin so now that means that he will. We'll see but more than likely are they buy week this week. pittsburgh off or they play. I think they might be all or no. They were already off weren't they. I thought well. I thought i thought the nine and on our they eight now maybe eight now nine see now. You're now i'm thinking of the bengals this week into okay. Okay there you go. So they are eight no i think. I don't think i think there weren't they part of a covert with another team to ten aside and they have tightened so all right so big ban. We'll see we'll. We'll see what progress progresses but the undefeated now the undefeated season on the line. Because if ben doesn't play it's a different team and the titans are pretty good. All right sports talk seven ninety hour number four next we will discuss been discussed the the impact that has on this game. And we'll also discuss you know the the nba calendar and what we're trying to bunch in there and what it means with free agency and the draft sports talk seven ninety sean south reshow classic chevy sugarland classic chevy highway six. I just wanted to explain something. All the deals are spectacular. I think that's pretty obvious. 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All come down the pike here very soon. Here's a calendar november eighteenth. Which is let's see this friday the thirteenth. so fred. What are we teeth. Night yes tried is the thirteenth andy. Draft of ember eighteenth. Free agency starts november twenty at six. Pm november twenty second free agency. Signings can begin at twelve. O one pm is that is that twelve one pm. Am yeah 'cause pm on the tweet usually has to be a m. It's who's going to be waiting. Whose door waiting for a Whatever to sit down with each other it's going to be who's going to be waiting zoom room right. I've never known at. Yeah exactly. i've never known it. Pm at twelve o one in the middle of the afternoon for a free agency to start. I'm assuming just for me. That's twelve one. Am on the twenty second. Free agent. Signings can begin december twenty mean december first training camps open and december. Twenty second is opening night freeze on trades. Being lifted is still to be determined but remains like here. You go free. Agency starts at five central on friday the twentieth right six. All these are eastern. Time is six. Pm eastern time but the signing. That's the free agent starts at twelve one. Am starting november twenty second. Yeah so that should be eastern time one set time. I don't understand why you gotta have a two two day buffer period. I i don't. I don't know what that. Why do we have to have that one to me. When they say free c starts. You should be able to start signing people. let's go ahead and tell me that tamperings not going on already. Well the guys that are gonna leave going damn right. They do they already. But you think about this from november eighteenth so a month in two days we gotta get a draft. Get rookies ready. Start free agency. Sign the guys in free agency open training camp and be prepared open. The nba season december. Twenty second three days before christmas in a in thirty two days basically and you got all that done and have your offense put in and new coach is taking over their teams. Doc rivers all these. I mean envy ready to go and just ended your season. The lakers haven't even fitted their fingers for rings yet. Good luck it's it's going to be the whole the whole doing free agency in november and playing the scene a month later to me is wild. Hold the crazy thing about it is. These guys are going to sign. And they're gonna blinken. They're going to be in their new city. It's great houses quick. You have to be what we were already i saw. Pj tucker yesterday. He's working out at the facility. Already with the rockets facility. Because you have to be at this point. The literally camp is going to start in less than a month because you know. What is your 'cause. It's easy to lose conditioning and stuff. You can sit around for two weeks like oh my. Gosh i gotta start all over but it's hard to get back it's like damn and every year by that offseason grind becomes tougher and sometimes they forget just the physicality part of it physical random another court. It's the mental and emotional part of just dealing with another seventy two games plus playoffs. I quite frankly. I know team like golden state's fired up because well they've been hurting their guys been waiting right so that that team's excited they got the second pick of the draft but and i'm sure a lot of players are excited young players on a roll but if you're a veteran it's been in this league and while you'll agree to because you want to get paid and get going i just i. I don't see how this is well. I i know how it's called money but it's just. I wonder what the players privately think about this. December twenty second start after the season just ended. I mean can't be thrilled digger. The bulls are really bad teams. That didn't go to the bowl. They're happy they're happy. They're ready to play. They don't want it to be delayed any longer because they haven't played since what february march wounded. That's the last time they played. If you're a bad team you may be able to steal a few wins early against right golden state. Is you want to talk about a team to watch them. Come out and just blaze people early with everybody me especially with. i mean. we'll see what they do at the second. I still don't think they're keeping the second. Pick their tradenet away. There's been a lot of talk to that. If they did wiseman would be the pick right. Kicked eight. oh he's an athletic played can defend both ends. I mean play. The rim at both ends does develop into a really good offensive score. And you know night. Be good for them. But there's also talk that they're gonna dangle that out there to go get something else because he's a good pick and he's gonna be a really appears that he's going to be a star in this league because he can run the court to yourself watching him play he is he's pretty he's pretty damn impressive but yeah i would imagine. I think that sentiment is You know you hear that the ball. Ball's name bantered about what edwards is going to be the first pick right. The kid georgia's more than likely putting lamelo boston. Fellow ball right yesterday that there's belief now that lamelo is going to be the first pick instead of edwards and. I don't know how much i believe that. That may be just some agent trying to put it out excitement for a guy again but it's going to be interesting draft and if you're golden state if you're somebody who likes to bet i would imagine early in the season bet golden state take the over. Yeah legs all my. Gosh could be fun to watch i. We'll come back and discuss. 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See and M. c. on sports talk seven ninety grateful to have you guys along as well free agency in in Basketball the draft signings regular season training camp all that usually sale man. We got an incredible six months. No that's in thirty two days up and it starts on december starts november. Eighteenth is when That's the draft. You had on the due diligence. I wonder how you know with all the the the twenty twenty covert stuff. I wonder against the emphasis like in football this year. And anything you're scouting department in how you rate a guy how you observe him than how you break him down in great him had to be with more urgency and you have to trust in people and put a little more trust the people that have seen a guy more than in the past or do you think of the nba that turn on the tv and watch the tape and say that guy's got game. I'll take him. You gotta do your do diligence to find out what he practices like. I mean with they've had to pick up the tempo with this one right. Yeah i mean you ha. You have to have an idea right. You don't need all the advanced stuff to know. I would think you have an idea of more basketball than any other sport right. Yeah i think the only thing is because there for at least a college players. You didn't get to see a season from them. Did it and get enrolled either. Exactly it's hard to really know if there's anything that changed but like you said in general you see a guy you can kinda tell if he's an nba cal replay or not. I can you walk us. Just take us three for example in a sport if we walked into a. Let's say a gym with the top. Let's say we went to a big highlight. The las vegas invitational big high school basketball tournament. Right we would know. Yeah and we're sitting there and we watched about four or five games one after the other just. We love high school hoops that are watching one of the two or three best high school tournaments in the country. I remember when i played in it. It was. I mean some of the best guys had gone onto. And you'd look that guy that guy that guy the best of the best were they are right from all over the country and and you'd sit there and everybody you'd be sized them up when you'd walk into the casino your stay in the hotel and then you go in the gym and the gym within all these games are going saying oh man oh he's going to ucla. Yeah ralph jackson a ball where he was in inglewood high when they were the number one team. You know you can tell as a fan if us. We walked in oak hill academies there you know you start looking around the country wouldn't i. I can tell about a half or a game. I can dwindle down. I know who the fifteen best players appear to be in this gym. I think i could now. There's always that guy who made in shoot well and then in games two and this right right and so while. i know. I'm not trying to simplify it so much but damn it doesn't take much to watch. Wise men play or edwards. Play the or ball play and say okay pretty good now. Let's get to him scout. So i would imagine i easy. He's probably not the right word. But i get a better feel and you talk to the coach kind of practice habits. Josh made the point without having season we missed another season. How clutch they are in in moments you know or for some guys we we missed. Who would the fast. Riser of ben. Right there's always that guy in college season that you missed the college season. There's always that guy to you. Like man he went on a twelve game run or had a great tournament and pushes himself into the first round right. You miss that guy. But i would imagine that if we can see it with the naked eye. Who's got that. You know the guy with extra handle the guy who's a really good passer. It doesn't take me long to figure out who the best deals on the corridor. And i would imagine that the nba feels that same way. When you're now you just gotta decide well. Is this guy a little bit better shooter than this guy who's got better who shoots it better. Long range under pressure dizzy fit in with our team. You know that that think that would be the harder part fit then it would be the guy got game when skills i i'd be looking for the weakness more than skill because the skills stick out sometimes a game. When you're scouting you may be able to hide some weaknesses because of a as zone defense. Can you play man. You know those things. But i think it's pretty obvious to me now. The the if we were to put the top twenty five players in the country in a gym and we watched and and we didn't put the names on the back of the jersey. Just the numbers. I'll betcha we could say well that guy. I'll bet you we could break down. Let's say there was thirty dudes. I'll betcha we could get close to pick in the top fifteen or twenty nine betcha we could now. I don't know if that baseball. I still more difficult. That's exactly. I gotta see a long and in football like at quarterback. I got to see a bunch of that to go. Who the biggest workout freak is. That's the problem you find it football. I'll i i've witnessed that per i went to the johnny manziel pro day and i was completely convinced after watch then person standing five feet away from it. I'm like oh my god. This guy has a rocket for an arm. He's going to be incredible right. Yeah he can do everything. Well he had don't forget he had shoulder pads and he put through his pro workout. He did all that to show them that he could throw with. All that is hard going. Everybody else going to that. Like i was really. I was in the in the category of this guy's going to be a superstar and that's where the workout freak in football can kind of be hidden right. Yeah there's a big difference in plan shorts and a t-shirt where you can throw the ball and then all of a sudden yeah but he doesn't recover very well when there's eleven other dudes out there. What have you in baseball right. The main over the course time so difficult to fight you. That's gotta be along. But i got news for i promise you i think i could go watch edwards play five times which we've seen in play and say well that guy's a on court right because guess what they do play in shorts of t shirt. That's right right and you what you're seeing. There is what you're gonna see when he's playing pickup hoops. I mean now pressure part of it kenny. Is he again. Can he make free throws when the games on the line. All those things but listen if you could shoot shorts and a tee shirt in when you're playing ball georgia or you know you're playing ball memphis and and you're doing those things you could see the moves around the basket know we can see those guys and as long as it's then you're saying well okay. I know the strikes let me find is the guy. Movers feet on defense. But i to the three major sports basketball would be the easiest. If there is a word called easiest scouting anybody would be the easiest to define who the best players were the fastest. That would help us in a year like this. But now they're going to be facial all this pressure of bunch all this crap in and in the meantime making sure your veterans are taken care of seeking get younger players. Ready to give the veterans arrests. The first couple weeks of the season right. I say rest is limits minutes. They get their legs underneath them. Having to worry about scouting. These young is which you'd think most of it's done by now but getting them in camp. And then roger that it's all right. Who are we going to add from free agent. It's a lot in. It's probably going to split your team in twos of. Hey y'all are worried about this. You already about this and then hey we have this similar mindset that. We're trying to work with. But i think in general. It's not tough to do. Each one in basketball issues the cumulative effect of all in such a short period of time. That's best the real challenge for them. Oh i agree. And i will not be surprised with this thing. We were talking about teams that are jacked up that were didn't get to the bubble and teams that didn't get to the bubble but when they're healthy argued into the bubble if we ever had what again. Hopefully we will have to do that again. But you mentioned golden state. It will not surprise me if they're in the nba finals. All not one bit insanely difficult. But i i'm very interested to see. Because i think that trading the second pick in for salary standpoint being able to match it up now honestly i would. I know that. He's the the time their heart and soul if you had to use dream on dream on second because the contracts not good but they can use. Andrew wiggins is an actual negotiable piece to get maybe some better. Somebody's looking to move. Something i yeah. There's been a lot of talk about. He's been the biggest aside from if they were going to drive to. He's been the biggest name bantered about up in in northern cal about the wiggins. If he's there without you know what. I mean the just the whole fit for andrew wiggins what you're talking about The are you a fan of his i. I'm very interested to see how it goes with with the other guys like. I think he could be a very good fit. And i think they may end up being the third. I mean he's not going to be a number one guy anymore. We never needed to be like he can be nineteen points and i guy i think in a very efficient level because he has other great players around him when he's being asked to go score twenty five twenty six night. He's not good at a lot of guys are better and i think that's the he for sure doesn't have to be the first of the second right now. You don't have to be the one of the two and he may be he could turn into. Golden state has away he to be a better three point shooter. That's born to me. That's exactly right but he he's a he could actually be you your third option and your third option at eighteen to twenty points a game. It's pretty good good option. Yeah also the thing that the warriors can do with this pick. That's allowing them so much flexibility because they have dc young players and guys like wiggins. You make a lot of money. You can match big sellers. They have a seventeen million dollar trade exception. I believe still that they can just float in and not add a play anything yet. Almost twenty million bucks a seventeen million. You said seventeen point. Believe i mean. They're sitting on top of the world right now. They're part of the story. And it's at here locally. Obviously you have to and it's going to be interesting to see all these contenders play it because the west is going to be a monster in this year and you can't screw around early in the season because this season it looks like you. Add the golden state. Warriors to the mix of memphis is right there with a young budding team last year. Portland expected to maybe be better new orleans. Yes should be better. San antonio's not great but if they keep all their players they'll linger they make you work. New orleans ended. The conference could be twelve deep right. Utah's always gonna give trouble. Portland is going to give a troubled. Denver lakers clippers mavericks rockets. And we've mentioned all those teams. Oh by the way those at team who knows how to win championships like we said it. Golden state so it is going to be a monster. But i'll tell you what if you if we had tics and you wanna give me golden state and some odds to be world champions. I'll take him. I think. I think they have that capability and i would imagine. They're they're probably want to take it out on the world after what happened. Fbi's right now they are trying to bury a so. They are in a really good position. Josh you mentioned with the the you know the money in the and with the second pick and getting the most out of out of their players not name klay thompson and and And steph curry. They're well coached. I mean what's not to like about him right so put it this way. Good teams go. Miss playoffs couple of this year. State has the fourth best is in vegas to win the title. And who are the three they got milwaukee. Milwaukee is just ahead of the meth third right. And then you've got the lakers and clippers one into what brazil to lakers are one right behind golden state at the frost eastern conference team of seventy sixers. Now celtics note their sixth he not the heat their seventh staying Brooklyn brooklyn fifth. always forget. Oh yeah they have. A they have steve nash with dad tony staff now if nothing else that will be a very interesting watch. Let's put it that way With kyri and new. I mean it's going to be be fun to watch. They'll score some points. I'll tell you that one of katie is going to be the same after aquiles workout. At least he looks pretty good. Yeah i was gonna say what's not good for him and you know i mean bug and test. He may be mad at the world to kind of gold state is katie. May decide he wants to go all you know. What do they go wall What's the what's the phrase they use. Version no not all hand- will handle or legal. Yeah you might go away if you if you want to bet on something for brooklyn. Their number for total wins. It's seventy two game season but it's forty three and a half fire on the over. I'll take the over twenty. I'll take in the over seven hundred seriously going to get online right now. That's not a bad idea. All right sports talk seven hundred thirty minutes left in the trenches next with md. And chris gordy. This is fun banter and we're going to get a lot of the next thirty days because well the nba is gonna budget. 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These young guys threatening for a world series will jeff will win. Money in this lawsuit are settled. A win money yes. He will get at least some of his money back that he was going to get. I don't think he'll get all of it. It'll reach settlement like age. Aj hinch reached a settlement quietly. It never got to this. I'll say yes. But i party wants to say no just because of what could come out of it but it. It feels like the ashes will do anything to make sure that none of astra's don't want us to go. I mean yeah they're not gonna want go to corn. The answer is yes that we will get paid. Don't know if you'll get it all but he'll get paid just ended. Yes that they'll put a all you know a lot of the old gag order on. Don't talk after this is done and move on and he's gonna get paid just because nobody regardless. Nobody they want this done. They want to move on and twenty twenty one will jeff luneau get another job by twenty twenty two in baseball now. I think this with all the other stuff. I i think. His name is going to be rumored about. It's been lightly brought up already with the angels job but there sound like there was no real actual discussion of it. I i just get the feeling. That the way that i think unless until he sits down and i just think that he's being so defiant with it's going to turn a lot of people off but only takes one would want to win and he's definitely one josh. I'll say not baseball by do think there's a good chance. He goes and becomes a some sort of adviser for like a soccer team in england or mexico or maybe gaming mean like an eastward team. Something weird i think. He'll have a job but i don't think he ever gets back in baseball for how he's handled this by twenty twenty two for sure not. He'll have a job in sports. It just won't be in baseball running a team and after twenty. Twenty two maybe twenty twenty three twenty twenty four. Somebody starts to decide that enough times past but also when lawsuits hit baseball teams. Get leery of that sports teams do. They're like who could that happen to us. You know what i'm saying. They just they don't like it when people go after their former employer because they're wondering if that's going to be damn whether we whether you guys you know like at home or not but no baseball by twenty twenty two Cam newton and patriot past this season. Nope not a chance. I'll i don't think so. He's not been good. they're not good. I think they'll draft quarterback. I'm going to say yes. But i think most of what you said scraped. I think they're going to draft a quarterback they may bring some young kitten or a young guy in that has an upside. Like maybe bring setback or something. I think cam still on the roster. But i don't think he's gonna be there guy for the future i think he just maybe a holdover until they get the next guy that they want to at least see what he has you know if cam newton's dot the star going in not coming back i don't think he's back and i think there's a chance of this continues at jimmy. Garoppolo could be the quarterback in new england next year. I think that that is a depending draft. A guy garoppolo. Well at the san francisco for the dc. They only have to pay four point. Eight million dollars. You cannot believe the banter going on in san francisco. Where do you go from there. You have a super bowl roster that just banged out this season and that that's and that's the other side. I've tried to bang the table for that same. Listen let's not. Let's not make knee jerk decisions if you're the forty niners but here's the problem. A lot of us look around the league with like the. The instant impact. Quarterbacks are making in the passing game right in. Jimmy struggled issue but he helped. The team gets the soup with good numbers. I think what it is is they think fans and media think that there's another quarterback gets another level and that if you let him go. Could you trade for sam darnold for a third round. Pick under a rookie deal and do that. And now there's a lot of banter about zack wilson. Now the kid from byu. I moved to trade for him. I think jimmy is a good player. I think they think there's i think they liked jimmy. I'm not sure they love him. And i think there is the chance. I talked to the patriots color commentator. I said who's on. Who's your starting quarterback next year. And he said he he's on forty niners roster right now in which way. I found odd but they loved him. There didn't want to get with him. Could happen because it only costs and four point eight million dollars total over the next two years to get rid of one hundred million dollar contracts. So we'll see. I like jimmy. I just wonder if they love him enough to keep him. I think a lot of the san francisco fans have also started convinced himself that aaron rodgers is a real threat. And i don't. I don't think it is it all the he's gonna stay with the packers as long as he wants. Then they'll bring in love. They're not gonna get to love quicker to get aaron rodgers aaron rod jordan. Love going to be doing what he's doing this year set in his ass right on the bench a plan while rogers air and the forty niners are not gonna be able to pull that off next year. But there's growing there's a groundswell of new either change. Is there any chance that rogers says. Let's let's go ahead and do this. All if he's pissed off they keep pissing him off like they do baby. And it'd be perfect. You give rogers a healthy forty niners roster the way they run it and they're def- lookout man different story right rogers on that team when healthy and deebo samuel and they're pretty good. george kittle. Yeah bosa back. Be interesting all right. We'll fuller texan next year. Yes i think that they franchise tag him is my guess money but i just i don't think they would have kept himself into a corner. When did that's exactly what i was gonna say. I if you asked me three weeks ago. I would have said no. But because they are so defiant about keeping it feels like i'm just they have to lease franchise tag him. At least they may give him the big deal he wants but i don't think he goes away at all like he's a little bit. Is sam darnold a starting quarterback in the nfl. on another franchise next year. Yes i will. I will say that. He's starting for somebody whether it's chicago chicago. Mix to inver sometimes. Been right for them. I think i think locks future for denver. But i think this is an intriguing. One as san francisco to with their rosters right. Yeah somebody who. He'll start for somebody in extra. There's no way it just won't be the going to look at. This guy. needs a reset right up in place where that's not the jets. Yep i would agree. One hundred percent josh. Yes or no yes. I don't know if he's the fulltime star but he'll start a game or two for at least some team next year okay. I'll let you mull this over and before you answer. We'll patrick don't don't blurt it out. Will patrick mahomes of win the mvp this year sports. Talk seven ninety. Willie or won't he will they or won't they will it or won't it. We'll finish that up here on sports. Talk seven hundred. Sean salisbury show a lot of hardcore good opinion here continue to roll on with the crew coming back sports. Talk seven hundred you know what's not healthy a stressing about work. What's even more unhealthy as if you're out of work or you're not getting the hours you need to support your family case. Ah let's stop stressing. It's not helping anything but hurting yourself even more and kind of paralyzing you're right kind of keeping you where you're not moving and moving forward well let's reset and move forward. Start a new life as an it pro in as little as four months from the comfort of your own home without zero with with no experience zero computer experience without even having been able to turn one on. We'll we can do that right so instead of seeing what happens next. Let's make something happen. Now take care of the future. Go to my computer career dot edu and take care of the present and take the free vacation today. My computer career dot edu helping people start an it careers what we do live online classes. Meet just twice. We can start soon to give but you'll need to start your new career more than a school. My computer crew helps you get into the industry by working. 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I'll say yes just because it seems like no matter what happens every single year as long as he's healthy compla- off time. Lebron james somehow makes it to the finals. This is the first time. I'm going to say that in a short season he's even going to. I mean as what a freaky is. But that may be. I don't know is will get too comfortable Not with his fitness but to what they want again. Now these done it with the lakers will tame the same challenge. Be there for wanting to for wanting to get to the championship right. I mean and he pushes himself and josh. You're making your point as long as he's right he there's a drive in him right because now everyone's going to sit here and say well the age is finally going right here right. Thirty about to turn thirty sevice. Thirty six december and the beating on his body cool kinney take the short offseason. And so he'll take that as another challenge to piss him off and go. So i don't i don't doubt they're going to be in the final four in the western conference final. Say somehow some way that they just somebody else gets there. Will he win the mvp again in the in the regular season mvp. Will he ever win another one. I would bet no just because there's too many other guys that are going to put up more rawal massive numbers than he is going to put. Did he deserve at this year. No all right josh. I after the fact if you include playoffs. I think he did deserve it this year but going forward i think if there's a player on the lakers that wins in mvp it's going to be. Anthony davis yeah. I don't have. I don't have loved. James harden here locally is gonna put better numbers for regular season. Mvp award and to me. It's going to be more deserving of the mvp award most seasons because his numbers are going to be way better. And i think will be the case again next year. That's just one player there. Janas will do the same. I think you could give the mvp award that. I think it's like ballot. Check when normally. I think you could give the mvp award coach of the year award. I think you could give it to lebron every year. If you really want. I can make a case every year. Why he should win it but i also can make a case. Why somebody else. What you won't. I don't think he wins another mvp but there may be a going away party at some point for him to do it. Will yana sign a supermax in milwaukee. Nope absolutely not. I've i can't believe pivoted on that. But i think that there is. We all know his last hurrah with the bucks after after that he series last year. I think that's when he decided. I know that they're trying to say at this stage. Exactly i think there's growing optimism and everything is they're saying up there but i don't believe it i just think he knows. Hey you need to sit around with a elite shooters and other guys who can score whenever they pack the pain. You know like when i they shut me down i need someone else. He's not going to get that in milwaukee and to me. That's why he is the he's a great player and he'll probably find a way to at least playing in a finals at some point but he is completely overrated completely because he can't shoot and in crunch time. I can't give the guy. The ball. I know i can get to the rim. But i can't remember offense through he shoot. I used to think that he was a he might actually be better when you have another guy. That's as good as him on his team. That same when i played with james harden like that would be amazing for him because he wouldn't have to shoot threes as i mean he could he would. He might average thirty eight a game because he's so physically means that good mid range and inside and i don't know if he's ever going to be able to develop a three point shot right on a consistent basis. He's a great player. But when i say somebody better than embolism anybody bed but if you want with harden where he doesn't have to be the clear clear clear number one that uncertain like an la who's the number one now is a lebron or is it a d. so you think anthony davis joshes right now. Some could say that they wanna championship. Because anthony davis not lebron. James could make that argument this year. Correct but neither one was winning a championship. This year without the other one janas needs another one like him. It is does. I think and it would make me even more effective than he already is so with that in mind. He's not going back to milwaukee he is gonna he's gonna fall into the trap of the big he's gonna go somewhere where there's other star players not named. Chris middleton still just think he's going to miami and you may be very very you may be right. Let's end with this one now. He listened closely. Is there a better chance that brady wins the super bowl this year or before. He retires or rivers. Breeze darnold fulls. Garoppolo are all are not playing for their same team next year. Whether it's retirement or elsewhere better chains wins so there's a better chance of brady winds and there's more likely of moral put it this way more likely chance brady than all five of those guys are on their same team correct. Okay i'll i'll go with all those guys on their team. Just for the fact that i think the only one that really i believe has a shot. Stay on their team next year. Is garoppolo breeze retires. This year he plays again. I think he has a good shot. They'll be in there but everyone else is done on their team. So i actually think that. It's pretty close that i had brady winning one and i know. Mc you're buying into what we were talking about it to ours. Brady get another one this year. But i- garoppolo maybe of those five guys the least likely not to move but it's probably fifty fifty right now by the people in that city. Who think he is gonna move so it's interesting to find out. We could have a whole bunch of changes at quarterback across the landscape next year. And we'll be back to try and change the sports world tomorrow for mc and josh. I'm sean we don't ever take you for granted in the trenches with andy. Chris gordon next followed by the math thomas show with ross the a team this afternoon appreciate you appreciate my partners. We'll see in about twenty hours. Be safe out there. Thanks for joining us in the trenches next.

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Barstool Rundown - November 10, 2020

Barstool Rundown

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Barstool Rundown - November 10, 2020

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It sounds smells not great to help all that So good a dude. Products dot com or you can pick up all their stuff and amazon or walmart and use the code rundown ten for ten percent off. We'll start with jets in the past last night. Boy oh boy nick folk revenging boy feel mother fucker now. My world man. That was regular game for me. You guys are like so stunned when you have to watch mediocre football nick. Welcome to the terror dome. Absolute quarter was just dude. I when the that. I'm surprise vegas like didn't take off the board of the fourth quarter where they went via was no legal formation on the goal line or something like that young man and there were so many like. Oh you're like like. It's like the reverse alabama when they go low go morph. They won't point prior to the jets final series. The pasadaran twenty-seven offensive plays in the fourth quarter to the jets. One and they went through. They went three and outs ended up before four but prior to that three now when there was so there's a couple minutes left in the fourth. They had run play and offense and play and i. I was fuming. If you go watch the episode of the goddamn jets. I was even by my standards. I was a lunatic last night. I'm gonna break under the brick everything in my house including all the bones in my body. When i throw myself out the window you weren't gonna find me splattered on agent when. I jumped out of the window because i was like. It's monday night football. It's the jets in the pats. I lose this game a hundred years in a row by all sorts of scores forty five to three thirty eight to nothing. I mean monday night. Primetime games. That's when the jets lose to the pats and the one time i need them to win. They're not gonna. I was gonna fucking have an aneurism. Finally pull it out. I mean he's going to be historical game. I think that game is going to lead to a change in the rules to where they can now flex monday night games. Yeah it was it was. It was ugly. It was like. that's actually. The end of the day was entertained. Yeah that's true. With the broncos ago weeks ago it was like this game socks but it was fun. Was kobe myers and rent rewards. Yes i mean there were so many places like fucking on it was crazy and it was. I did say. I think when you guys were up. Twenty seven seventeen. Maybe i finally reassessed my stance on the year with my take on the season before early before the season started where. I said i was excited. I was like i was ready to have. Your team wasn't just guaranteed if the playoffs shop your head off i wanna to be funded grant. Apparently what's going to happen. I have now come to the revelation. And i'm ready to admit it is much more fun through pro football team that is going to be guaranteed the it's way better breaking news. I can't even tell you how much better than the other side. It's you missed out on so much happiness. And i know that when you were saying this is the game. Where we get crushed. It's so fun. Going into that game going to destroy. Yeah and i think the line before was minus ten and a half of it. Like that and i was looking at it i was like i don't feel the pets. Most times i was in pats minus fifty. Yeah i did not feel. And i was right in that but i was like. I don't feel although it did but the under that didn't go over so well but the point is changing fun to win. It's thanks to lose. Except what last night. I would've been fine with a loss of very fine. In fact i made the prediction before the during the drive. Where i was like. I've watched this game. I not going to get into field goal. Range folks going to miss it. 'cause that's what has to happen. I wished i happened just because again. I guess in a testament to keeping it in the monday night slot overtime hilarious off over time. I was thinking that on the video at one point have the revolution. I was like. Wait a minute that means over time. Like i can't keep doing this. I don't want to watch. I'm interested to see if even non i i don't know what they do with like the flex on thursday night. They still have the titans. Jags and i be like monday night. Football games aren't as good as they used to be. Be me sane. Thursdays is terrible. I think money still hasn't really really bad match. Maybe maybe they'd get rid of games with young guys leave you to like i love. I absolutely love. But he had comment in the on. The pats drive second scored a touchdown where it was third and goal. They don't have to make a decision to go forth. Yes steve thank was down. Can we can you fucking assholes stop with the tanking. you're not taking is not good You're not taking i. i think i think yes. Who's gonna win. You're gonna win six games this year. You're going to be like the jets always are. you're not tanking. I'm tanking getaway. I don't think you're you're probably just be horrifically injured end or paralyzed. And then i'll be in the hospital. And i'll be unable to move but i'll still have brain capacity you know we'll do the rest of my fucking life autumn on respirator to be like you know what it's football season. He loves the jets. Let's put on the jets. And i'll be watching the jets on sunday as a goddamn brain dead vegetable. You know who. I won't be watching. Trevor lawrence trevor. Lawrence will not be my team because they're going to win this guy damn game. I see. I don't know. I don't actively tank i think doesn't care. That might be true. But you know like we went from genius and that we're going back to the super bowl to jeans. Never tanking a matter of like five weeks. So you're just might flip. You're just you're just just start with the bills and a bad division takes doing. I mean they're not good and you're not going to be good for a little while because you're you're your lineup is pretty. You're pretty bad. And it takes a long time to build one. when you don't have to rely offers losses bad. The defensive roster is just out because coping. yeah. I think i think. I think i'll tries trying. I don't think he's not trying. I think he just he's he doesn't think this is a real year. Fuck this year and then once you accept that and acknowledge that you're probably just like you're not giving all of sock and he's just like bill checks off nine players and coaches. They don't think players were coaches tank. You're fucking money's online. Yes jason by john. Try and get the right players but players. Once they're playing. Wanna get a new contract right. So i don't think players coaches tank. But i just think part of bill is like fuck this season. I think not that. He's not trying bill. Close his eyes. You just footballs. And i love navy watching fucking i don't know i mean they. They are just not good and they're not going to be good for a little while because like when you have the i think i think we're getting a little ahead of ourselves with. They're not going be good for a little while. Takes why what's going to happen with that offense like overnight. I think that they'll get top five top ten pick and then i think they'll probably have a qb there. And then i think what's elements healthy myers has flashes birds. I think there is i. Don't use banging on this rookie quarterback in the top ten. That's gonna i actually. I wouldn't say. I can't again if he's gonna take another that same kind of deal but he's not good he's done. He's played well last night. Well i don't think anything's Asked well the thirteen twelve. Thirteen hundred zero yards and a half. Yeah he played well last night because he the camera. Well okay with me because that ain't adding theanswer so being your own former. Mvp only it's the worst bridge. I think it's pretty bad bridge. Because i think that almost keeps you. They're like yeah as a former. Mvp but only ever going to be that guy again. And i think you're going to be stuck in that mediocrity level which is the worst to me. I don't know. I think you'd rather. They should stay their instinctive. He's really that bad. And then and then tacked either tank or or. I don't get better but that middle grew up that that's going to be six and ten seven nine type ship your ignoring an elephant in the room. Which is bill when he cares. Okay this i have a question for you. So when i was a kid from indiana bigeye. You've had that. I thought that was the greatest and then the game kind of passed by. He said my dad told me bill. The game will pass bill check by some happened. You think now the gone the game pass built by the locker room doesn't have bill jokes back as much as they did no. I don't think. I think bill's i i didn't like i think that those takes started. I think bill. Simmons started take with ballot check when he turned fifty five or something like that. I wanna say sixty three sixty three sixty five something that i don't know the answer being get that but it was like mine when he was fifty bill. Simmons started that take and yet there is a point but sixty eight momma. He's older than i thought he might be dense soon. Well there was that whole. Bill would retire when he's whatever but then was like like i never. He's now like our shack. That shit he'll he'll be a practice on wednesday in debt on a sunday wants to make sure his kids already. I think he was not like they're both. They're both on the Tucson has seen far from now But i mean. I could also see like if they are. How many years in a row would you need to see mediocre football to be like. Yeah i mean bills probably had this time in this on three three okay. Because i think that's entirely. I think that me when he's seventy still playing this game And by the way everyone who's like. Oh trevor lawrence is going to stay in school like the jets are you. I'm going to pick up again. The judge gonna keep getting an one lawrence. Because they're that fucking band trevor lawrence. Did you see someone on I don't know who the other heisman candidate is But someone i it was. Our breakway tweeted it and it's trevor. Lawrence and the other heisman candidate with their hair switched. Trevor lawrence looks like a fucking rocket and the other guy looks like a straight up woman. Like it's gonna it's crazy. I don't i don't know who the other guy is. But it's a girl and a weapon a guy the other the other is again. It is chair. Lawrence looks good. Trevor lawrence looks. Yeah like walsh's exactly and and this other dude Looks like a girl. I would absolutely have sex with a girl i would hook up. Gotta murray hill bar and you take on. 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He's one hundred years old almost got he can these guys. We don't give a shit but he's like nah nobody. That's that's toxic masculinity. I'm jay sober. Wife don't tony. Tony is Tony the first time he was like sleeping at the red light which the tiger woods Move and now this one. He pulled out all timelines year. This one bibs what was it it was he brings back there. Oh i'm a hall of fame baseball person. Which which i don't fucking care a hall impressive short but it hurts a little bit every time you don't get to say player. Every time hall of fame baseball person maybe spoke coach. They go yeah. what was your batting average during. Your fucking doesn't matter where you play. I think he. I think six seven years in the league. But i'm gonna guess he was low two hundred alabama drinking and driving. You get a dui right away if you say celebration. Oh i would announcing your i would like double arrests. You know what i mean. I was going to let you go but now like from the book and it's no it's it's it's is the person you just because you say you're clearly didn't create versus an idiot person. He white sox fans got to be there beside themselves because this hiring sucks but now he's also big. Oh man they knew about it. Which i don't know like tony got arrested. They knew about it then. They announced him now. It came out that they knew about nfl. Level of competency. Like seeing like the ray rice videos. Like i guess like you can't is that enough to like not hire. Dui yeah like. I don't know but you also can't come out and be like well we're gonna we're about to announce this i don't know you're you're in a tough spot where you're just like god damn tony different level different levels of society. There's dudes fixing four sixty five in indianapolis that had like five talking to the i. I know a few things you said was hiring out here. I call it. Thought about indy. Five hundred pit crew guys. That was uh part of a car in the pits. The old days where. I mean you. I wasn't the thing was like well. You know. make sure you get home safe. It's like well the problem is i'm fucking probably won't let me go here and i might not say yeah even like the eighties. The like how far you live from here in just a couple of a couple of miles like all right. Get outta here. Just what we're drunk to. It's happened less in nowadays. Of course but i had to happen to a buddy wants On a scooter. He's no eating live and he's like he's like off the street guy got that's tough. Dui on a scooter. Full blown one. It wasn't like Like you would have had like a real dui corners. No but it's not like you know intoxicated while operating machinery mind. God that's that's that's embarrassing. Gulf car aren't on a golf course. Golf course in a golf cart. You're probably drunk. Should be speaking of golf. You got this whole of one from jon. Rahm jason rom. Jon rahm at the masters this week. It's so bizarre. Out of all the weird sports stuff lake masters in november is really like breaking my brain but Today was like the par three hole in one challenge. We skip it on the water. And i mean this is this. This is the greatest hold on them all time. It's like a video game. I mean when when i when i i watched i thought it was you know skipping then the whole was going to be relatively close to where it lands. I mean just the rolling on the green is more impressive than the fucking skipping on the water sh magnet like a fucking tractor beam pulling that in there. It was crazy now. It's incredibly impressive for a great video. What i wanna know that he needed didn't mean it almost feels like a half court heave just like three quarter car he court. He say he wasn't even even go really well. I mean he's i if i'm not saying he definitely they were all kurban. Not he wasn't fucking was he was so far away. Yeah we know for sure he was going on to off. The water wasn't skipping over I many have done. I think for the most recent one was i know. Vj singh before what is it's wildly on top ten because i'd be like no no no not even hold on one just anything. That wasn't hockey. Because i was a little fucking prick and worse. That's just the fucking it's just court house. I i wish. I could all the hockey fans in the world and eradicate camera. That's my new change. Find ways i've changed my ways but there was. I was definitely for a while. A police fucking rudy was like that too. I just can't stand any of those five to- finger people asked that andros. There's a vin diagram toes. You did you ever have like bloody nipples do you. Do you like outside. Okay okay. let's talk about it. There was a moment where you were like teenage boy. And you are on the cross country team or whatever your leg all right. I'm going to go do this. And you're on mile like eleven twelve your nipples start profusely bleeding and then you're just like i'm going to do this again. I can't wait to still be a cross country runner on this team and continued to compete in this fucking sport. They never started like profusely bleeding but they would if it was like raining or something. They chafe but my freshman year of college. Which would three school and our jerseys were basically burlap sacks so i had to i had to put in my nipples cross-country college nipples. I mean come on i graduated. He's not good. I mean crazy honestly probably from nineteen sixty program. There's bad couldn't bad before the mighty ducks when they were district five complicity uniforms. I mean i guess you could say that about a lot of sports but like the ballet dancers their toes all manual old I i mean. Even when i was like playing basketball i remember my senior year having like every finger jammed at one point as like bruce on the same spot for was diving on the floor for balls and i was like i'm just hop is elbow. What's that i like. My elbow pads and hockey were the same pads. I wore like as like a fucking score and it would fucking my elbow. And every if i got hit what's happened every game. Yeah i'd have to go get a drain because it would blow up like this. It's called the popeye's elbow or students elbows. I guess happened. What happened is the first saxon. Your vote explode and then just like this fucking big fat thing would just have to get drain and be like yeah. This is just what we do now. Oh the description satisfying no. You didn't feel it really no i. I'm gonna spend the rest of my day watching videos of popeye getting drained. I know it's not but it wasn't like they would just stick any draining. It wasn't i mean that is just absolutely fucking file. Man was basically like every sunday to thursday. I just have like dot dot spearman in the morning to just go. Drain my elbow. How do you treat popeye's elbow protect your elbow hockey. Haven't been once rose Yeah like i'm gonna watch this after it says do a doctor drains elbow with big needle And last on the run down. We have So we've been watching the reaction to the election. We've seen all sides are handling it with my favorite reaction. So far has been the evangelical the fucking religious nuts particularly kenneth copeland. Who is the scary pastor who was in the news for corona virus in april. He's the one who said that god was going to blow it away. Remember he was. He was sitting there going on you. You you are destroyed forever and you'll never be back fiery mix well this time. This time He and his his congregation. We're just straight up laughing at the mainstream media. Calling joe biden the president and he just walked around the stage the altar. Where the fuck. They call megachurches. Just cackling laughing and all of his congregation joined in and started laughing. Said joe biden's president. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. I mean this was. This was the worst look for religion since like all the rapes. Just the biggest fucking astles in the fact that one person ever shows up to this guy's mass about because he looks like like all the cartoons of satan ever tara exactly phase satan any movie cartoon any example of saying this is what he looks jigsaw. Looks like a claymation evil villain but the laugh is. If i heard that laugh i would just like. Ptsd go running out. Because it's it's the last like your girlfriend does when your jumble laid you hear this like i started thinking about everything he's done for the last week. Walking the dog just being hung it went on and on and on and they all joined in. And it's like i don't i mean yeah he is like i don't know but i guess the joke's on all of us because he's worth three hundred million dollars. Yeah we'll three hundred million dollars because he just takes taught you goddamn ed thing. It's a full blown call. If you're in that if you go to that church. I mean it just over you as a person used. Because they're but they're just doing christianity like their christian. Yeah but i think the mega church takes it to a whole other. Yeah there's the. I feel like there's some there needs to be some. I suppose say in leading the congregation would be the twist. I'm looking for There's this got to be a bit of a twist like he just does christian mass right. Yeah but but but i think he does. These antics a lot like the blowing of them in like he. I i think these are time. Like oh the ghost notch. Shlo- showers wins touch people. And giving you know they do do. Baptist yeah i mean there's not exclusive to them but see like like for example another cult that's in the news twist they dress like justin bieber. Who's west. Oh oh the twist like beep right here. What's the twist here I don't know if i'm ready to label this man he's a creep and i'm not sure. Label him a cult leader. I think he's just like the oj. Not tunis yes. A co leader. There's a copy of jolo teams and other one. He's the motherfucker who wouldn't open up the doors during the hurricane. He's an asshole but at the same time joel osteen like i look at him and i trust him. This guy joel embiid compared to the evil passer. Like if i had to pick between two i see evil passer. They're laughing. I'm out of here on like. Oh this guy. I will give you that. Let me let me. Just tell you if you see joel. Osteen given his used cars stick try comparatively to the the creepy pastor a almost anybody before downright terrifying saying i can see how people get by joe. Cs creepy pastor. No not johnny. Yeah not at all that you would never trust. I mean he's like jump changes to its worth seven hundred. There's guys that are like ties shit. Yeah well yeah they still. If you're criminal. But i i i don't think it counts. If you're giving anything like the wolf of wall street i've watched the guy did wrong right. You call someone up. okay. I'm an expert five grand like done on. You deserve that fiber debts on you. If you believe that if you pay a man ties thing god will reward you. That's on you three minutes with just these okay. Yeah but that's just that time. So he's a church israel but he's not he's not the he's going to reward them with the money god on this. So that's that there was another one tied tied side effects tongues stick. There's another dude back in corona. Who was saying that god like don't worry about the toilet paper like god we'll just make it appear. Here's don't worry you're on the toilet paper like god knows it's coming and it's just like no it's not just going to have a whole congregation of bots. Ted cruz took six weeks. My throw the paper gate here. Thanks amazon would like factors. Such a dummy penn cruz marco rubio just taking on like no wiping it. Kicking i in the wilderness. Is the podcast visit buddies. Who were playing junior hockey. Import colbert canada. When i was a sophomore college freshman maybe and they didn't have toilet paper but because they are out of toilet with. They knew they didn't have any money to get to a paper so what they've been doing is they've been saving their The cardboard itself discussing and like the role appeal. Allaire off the roll. My dear absolutely it was horrifying worse than his nipples in the burlap sacks just wrong okay christ almighty all right Let's ending Oh my man. Uncle stevie cohen had his introductory press conference and he said shit. He said exactly what every fan wants to hear with the primo line. Being i'm not here to make money got a day job. I make money. I'm here to win. I could've fucking come on this. But he was talking about building a winner he was talking about given the fans what they want us talking about. Not shit about money. You are fought tommy. You know how. I've never seen fan base celebrate new own. I mean you wanna world series already. Like i'm excited. I was tired of the mets failing as these small market can't spend anything. I'm excited to see the mets fail as a big market team finally. I'm excited. no you up. You know how fucked you. I really don't. I think actively shooting for wins every season. Now i think i think acting anything short of not realizing that that steve cohen just does not lose what he does. Is there still the meteoric. See that's the point that no they're not no there are no. They're not what they they have a guy who is like bigger than that like. They're in the mets because of bad owners now they have a good no but they have Like a loser. Fan base and organization. Top to buy i write right. You souverain good seem you. What tommy specifically. I like tiny because he's the only one who admits that he doesn't like the mets. Like everyone else is like. I don't even care about like fucking kidding because we're not winning now every promise you will hate me. I guarantee that all already fans both teams to be good. I want competitive. No i will make you eat your words me personally. Probably a bunch of. But i will promise you you will hate me when the mets are good. I already ate at yes and that. But that's also fucked more than anybody because when we are good. And when steve cohen just puts together this dominant team. I mean everything. I've heard even like off the record stuff he's like. I don't give a fuck about the luxury tax. I don't give a shit about anything other than just putting this dominant. It's like if i had billions of dollars. It'd be an idiot with this. He's a fan. Who has enough money. That is play fantasy baseball. But for real okay. It will cost urged the yankees and the steinbrenners spend even more dan. How does he want to spend. He loves the standard the luxury tax house here for the money. Steve is this is the kick in the ass they needed. Let's flip what you asked me earlier. How many years before you're like fuck. It is the same all mets. So he said if we don't win in three to five years. I'll be disappointed so i'm going with which is an awesome like i. It's very easy to step up there and be like not do the lebrun be like we got a lot of work to do. That's our goal. But i don't want to put numbers on it like three or five. So quake five is like three is really fucking talks right. Yeah that's pretty much every not everybody but like when the socks got no one they wanted to win. The cops got anyone who's they won and the dodgers. It took him a little while but they were in the playoffs every single year since they got new ownership. So like steve. Steve should be doing the end. The thing is they're pretty good like they're not starting from a bare bones. Operation francisco indoors. Coming mets would be stars are aligning like he needs to go. The indians have made it. Clear the mets are are going to be like the ones they have the players to trade. I mean he's he's two thousand to two. That would be. That'd be. That's a pretty big way that go in era nado to fucking excuse me the whole side of the infield done because dvd's here on c. You tell him tommy. Mets are not. The mets was at details bags. Know what to do with me as like having confidence and like i. It's not people you love to be. You love to lose. This is you. Need this for your stick around. I trust me. I don't want this to be this way. I don't wanna be a loser. I wanna win. So i'm once. I actually have something to be confident about. I will be confident. This is the only time it's ever happened moment but it sounds soundly used throughout my life. When i did make this announcement i if the mets get good. The jets are on the clock. I i'm just not gonna i i can't deal with. I can't be like this awesome. Happy cocky baseball fan. Like in september and october when the sports overlap. I can't be like talking all. This shit has a baseball fan and then on sundays. I'm still hapless loser. I don't understand how like yankee and jets fans operate. I don't know how that's even thing so you know. You always said that. That's why boston got so good. Every team drove each other. They like everyone else been ever. It's been the opposite here. It's like well. I don't know how to do a better job. We all fucking suck if the mezzo son become winners in the jets still stink. Sorry fellas on out of here came you anymore. I'm a fucking winter. Come on tommy. You are so fucked ourselves more so than anyone tom.

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Young and the Restless

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Young and the Restless

"ESPN radio on Sirius Xm is where you need to be if you live and breathe college football, we're talking live games the latest rankings conference and team news analysis from experts like Mark Packer Greg mcelroy and EJ Manuel all leading up to championship specials and more take Sirius Xm with you in always have the latest college football info you need listen right now on the SIRIUSXM APP or online at Siriusxm dot com slash listen ESPN U.. Interruption, but I'm Mike Wilbon, the white sox hired Tony Larussa. On Sony Kornheiser WHO's Curious Whitey He's furious. You know when I heard the Lusa News, it made me start thinking about managers of my youth. A lot of gone now about Leo, Durocher who manage the cubs was a kiss, my Walter Alston Al, Lopez Sparky Anderson, and all these guys. Tony. Larussa. Seventy six. But. You know what what Tommy lasorda still with SORTA yes. He and why Di Hers August. And Bill Gordon is apparently still wouldn't have known that good for them. Welcome to PTI boys and girls, and today's episode baseball considers punishing Justin Turner NBA players pushed back on December start and we got some Falcons football. On Thursday night, but we begin today with the Chicago White. SOx. Indeed hiring Tony Larussa to be their manager loses seventy six years old and last manage in two thousand eleven when he won the world series with the Saint Louis Cardinals, the White Sox? Improving team that made the playoffs this year and then fired Rick Renteria afterwards we'll buy. This is your city. Know you're cubs guy but it's your city do you like this higher? You know Tony I do I mean I realized you know just you can be old and you can reminisce and you can say, Oh, wonder what about the good old days? The Bulls hire somebody maybe Phil Jackson's available. I. Tony The roosters, uniform waiting. You know the white sox wear those uniforms that people said look like softball uniforms with the horizontal stripes. On Sunday at least at home on Sunday, Tony Larussa was in those it. Totally I guess with the White Sox are thinking and Jerry Reinsdorf specifically who who, who, really regretted his general manager later firing Tony Larussa 'cause they had success with them. I guess what he's thinking is we got these young guys and they need a firm senior hand. They need somebody with some experience to guide them and get the best out of them is a gamble year but everything's again. But when you hire a coach or manager, so is this more extreme than that I don't know. So the the headline of course, is it Larussa? Is Seventy six years old and Jeff Passan of ESPN is reporting that it has ruffled some feathers within the white sox organization at some employees are afraid that he will not be able to connect to younger players and I'm saying this is somebody in my seventies that when you work around younger people which I don't in my attic but I do if I ever get back to the studio. When you work around younger people, it keeps you a lot more current. You you're. Open to more things than if you are only around people your own age, I mean the two guys running for president right now, one of them, seventy, four, one of them, seventy seven I'm a harder job than managing the white sox. So I think I'm rooting for Tony Larussa in this particular regard and I've heard the same things you have about Reinsdorf that that is his big regret that they fired Larussa. Then he won in Oakland then he won in Saint Louis and Reinsdorf wants to complete the circle and bring him back. Tony is fascinating is going to be worth watching like all the time in every day, and so those nine years like how far has baseball evolved in nine years in two thousand and two eleven I. Don't think Tony. The reuss will be removing a pitcher who given to singles. If he was in the world series I don't think. Would do that. But how much has the game of all? How much does Larussa have to evolve to stay current as you said, and to gain the trust of those younger players and bench coaches and bullpen people what does he have to do or does he already have it because he's Tony Larussa? It's a good team so it sort of risky because they're on the trajectory. I mean, but it makes it very interesting to watch I went to a dinner with him a couple years ago Saturday the table with him thought it was brilliant. Totally Brazil. Yeah. Happy for the move we move. Now we stay with baseball, but we moved out of baseball's unhappiness with Justin Turner which stems from Turner returning to the field for the Post Game Celebration Though baseball officials specifically told him to stay in the clubhouse and once on the field, they tried to get him to return in saw Turner had tested positive for corona virus and at times pulled his mask down while on the field. We'll. What should baseball due to Turner? Telling you. This is hard and I hate to suggest a sliding scale. But I think that may be the case and Uber Producer Matt Kelleher suggested this warning, and then this could be like a hockey. NHL Situation where if somebody suffers a broken jaw, the offending parties out for like three weeks if it's just. You know he missed a day then you bring it back I part of me doesn't want to accept that but it seems reasonable and logical, and if there are no consequences suffered by other people on that field when he was out there taking his mask. If there are no consequences I find it hard to say throw the book at Him. But if there are Tony's I wouldn't have a problem. Yeah. So I've had twenty four hours to think about this and I was too easy and too equivocal on this yesterday because I found a couple of things I didn't realize one is that he's the player Rep that means he wrote the protocols he sold the protocols to the guys on. define. Makes it worse. He deliberately defied those protocols that he was involved in, and the other is that he's a free agent and I wondered, did he say to Himself? I'm not going to be back here anyway. So I'm just GonNa Enjoy this to the degree that I can I understand why the players want him out there and I WANNA draw this distinction There's an inherent risk for all players and everybody in the dugout during these times because very few people the players weren't wearing masks in there and he had this in the first inning and. Financing along with the eighth him right. But they willingly take that risk who I don't think willingly takes that risk of the families on the field and the staff on a field, and so I'm torn on this one as you are. Yeah. Tony you know the players I can I can understand if you're player you said, wait a minute. I just spent all day I was at the cage with with Turner. We were hit the dug out his gather and nobody had a mask on. It's a why am I gonNa feel differently an hour and a half later and I can see why players will say no, stop it. But again, yes the other pimple that didn't sign on for this that Turner could have put in danger and that's what you have to assess and isn't result based Tony. It could be maybe even should be. I'll tell you this Mike in Hindsight I think baseball's very lucky that went six and world series over because the next day. What if a bunch of people tested positive and they couldn't even play game seven they couldn't. That's a possibility. We're never going to know that now because we're not looking back but Tony, if there was a game seven, he wouldn't have been out there celebrating so. No I. Point but but as you say in the DUGOUT, everybody's post all the players each other they are. and willingly willingly. Let's right. We may not be getting the NBA for Christmas after all Thome Kris Haines of Yahoo reports a substantial faction of players including stars is pushing instead for January eighteen. Martin Luther King Day the NBA estimates that the December start would be worth five, hundred million dollars more to the league than mid-january start. So thome, where do you see this ending up? Yeah I mean I love these reports I just wish somebody would tell me the names of all the players, all the stars that don't WanNa play we assume Lebron because any green said so. How many others I'd I'd like to get some names I'm going to quote. Don Almir. It's my favorite quote of all time the answered all your questions is money. If you read what Michelle Robert said basically what she's saying, what are you going to give us if we agree to start on December twenty second right and I think I think that's the critical issue here. What is the give back Tony I agree but again let's go the start with the if asked with all your questions is money. What about the five hundred, million dollars that's two, hundred, fifty, million dollars each and if you start dividing that up among the two, hundred, fifty million dollars for the players and I know people like, Lebron don't even care about the average the average of that for four hundred, fifty players would be about five hundred, thousand dollars six, hundred, thousand dollars per person on average obviously, Lebron's amount would be much more than that and it's still wouldn't be anything to him but Tony I think as I tried to listen to a players talking about first of all, this is very new. There hasn't been an official player Slash Union response to this yet not yet that's why they're. There will have to be one of the players are going to have to sit and think, okay what what am I assessing here? How much money does it mean? Yes to me not to the Union to me personally am I ready to play what's the physical risk involved and the owners have to look and say Okay Tony the five hundred million dollars becomes more real when you look at all the the revenue streams that won't be in effect like ticket sales and parking lot fees and hot sold in Jersey sold in arena. Those things aren't going to be there because they're not going to be any fans for for the beginning of the season maybe all of it. Yeah, well, let me let me get to this if I played on Miami and I played on on the Lakers. I wouldn't wanNA play Serie maybe if I played on Boston maybe if I played on Denver, I wouldn't WanNa play but this is we're talking about eight teams have played since March six more teams haven't played since August thirteenth and ate more teams haven't played. Since August. So twenty two teams out of thirty you'll going to get three and a half months off, and if you start, if you started mid January and you gotta get seventy two games, so you don't have to give back TV money. You'RE GONNA have to go of back to backs. You're going to have to go three and four. There's an interesting thing in the ringer. Compress the travel so that you might be playing series. In a row against. That'd be fun that'd be like the playoffs wouldn't it? That'd be fun. Let's take a break coming up in Boston. Miss More Tom? Brady removed key bets easy answer from me and as the steelers and Ravens prepared to meet each other we compared there to I wanted to go back into the whole thing with Kevin cash in mookie betts but we're being faded out. I'll do it some day. I'M GONNA come back at you. I'm pretty sure newhouse might be haunted. What makes you say that the furniture is levitating on the ghost welcome home. Spooky. You know what's really scaring. Missing out on Gyco for help with homeowners and renters. Insurance GEICO makes it easy to save a bunch. Great. You're not sticking around. The bar he's just getting started. A We call today and see how easy homeowners and renters insurance can be. I'm pretty sure new might be haunted. That the furniture is levitating on the ghost welcome home. Yeah that's that's spooky. You know what's really scaring. Missing, out on. GEICO, for help with homeowners and renters insurance GEICO makes it easy to save a bunch great a you're not sticking around. The Bar is just getting started book. Guy Go week call today and see how easy homeowners and renters insurance can be. Time for Tossup. Has Me as the betting favourite once again was I toss up? Who Should Boston Miss More Tom Brady? mookie Betts. Well, there's no question at Tom Brady, accomplished more in Boston than mookie betts he won six super bowls. Nobody's going to do that again mookie Betts won one world series and I think the people in Boston at this point or even rooting for Tom Brady to do well this year because they've liked him over such a long period of time but here's the big but leading mookie Betts. Sco. was catastrophic stupid just for money because the next ten years with the dodgers, a team that has money and spends money he could be there in October. Every single time he's there in October. It's a slap in the face of the ownership and management of the Red Sox. Tony every word you said, but I'm going back to the beginning Tom Brady nobody's ever going to win that not in the right time with people who are now entertaining this question in New England who part of PATS nation, the answers, Tom Brady and. Be like. I guess it could be analogize to saying who would you miss? The Yankees Franchise the Yankees Franchise Babe Ruth or Aaron Judge Yes. I know one guy is current. It can do more, but it's Babe Ruth who? Michael Jordan retired and gone or somebody who might come in spectacular for a couple of years might win one. No. The answer is the icon. The answer is the person that you're never going to see his like A. That's exactly right, but he's not going to be right in your face for the next ten years like Mookie Betts your. Next time. which coach would you like on Sunday? Mike Tomlin John Harbaugh. So my answer to this is Wilbon. I'll let you pick the one. Happen to take the other ones right because they're both terrific Mike Tomlin has had no losing seasons. John Harbaugh had one losing season. Tomlin has a sixty five percent winning percentage horrible sixty, two percent. Each has won a super bowl. Tomlin has been to two super bowls I mean. Tomlin's been luckier in the sense. He's had rothlisberger the whole way but harbor has a guy won a super bowl form and flacco and he's got the MVP and Lamar Jackson. I mean if I had to choose and you know you've heard me say for many years Tomlin is such a good quote that I would probably choose Tomlin. It'd be great sports writer but. That's all for you. Now, let me just mentioned Tony The reason why we're talking about this. These two guys are meeting for the twenty fifth time as opposed coaches I. mean nobody else nobody's met that many times now in the Super Bowl era and we go back obviously Halis v Lambeau is something that happened much more often like nearly twice as much I think forty eight times they met but currently Super Bowl era these to Tony I'll take I wouldn't want the first thing I wouldn't want the pressure of it. I'll just say Tony Take the first big I'm going to take the other guy happily right and you would take them probably for another few years and all. Of them belichick over everybody else Andy Reid. would be in Jewish and everybody else playing, and both of them were surprised hires and both benefited by stable organizations. That's it. Let's take one last break still to come giants in the chargers sent players in positive ten. Cam Newton maybe without one of his big weapons for awhile and he can't afford to miss any weapon gaining by the way. The score right now is harbaugh thirteen and Tomlin Eleven And that's even really close and they're it won't. Yeah. Have you time people have twenty, nine, th birthday trae burt he's a tight end on the colts now but he played quarterback in high school and was recruited. Florida's a quarterback he ended up playing mostly fullback running back wide receiver and tight end for the gators. His highlight was breaking Tim Tebow's record by scoring six touchdowns in one game five running and one by catching a pass. Britain signed. As a free agent with the Eagles and has played for them the bears and the colts seven seasons in the NFL one, hundred, forty, two receptions, thirteen touchdowns all this is marginally interesting, but it isn't the reason we're doing Burton's birthday. We're doing it because trae burden is the guy who threw the phillies special touchdown pass to nick. Foles tell win the Super Bowl over New England when both Were on the Philadelphia Eagles and I guarantee you burden will never have to pay for cheesecake in Philadelphia. Well you have to pay for stake in Chicago because he was signed by the bears to a four year deal with thirty, two, million of course, the only played two years and then cut but you know he had a pretty good first year really I you with fifty four catches and he was productive but you know somebody else's wearing eighty now in Chicago uniform playing tight end. Jimmy Graham. Happy Birthday they'll fifty four patches in no. Yeah Happy Anniversary Madison Bumgarner on this day six years ago. The San Francisco giants ace starting Pitcher came out of the bullpen to throw five scoreless innings of relief in game seven of the World Series and save the victory over the Kansas city royals. This was just two days after pitching a complete game shutout over the royals he think Kevin. Has, a quick hook spoke he did not hold. She knew where his bread was buttered. He managed Bumgarner through three world championships. In this one bumgarner was Beasley he went twenty one innings gave up one run at seventeen strikeouts zero four, three earned run average one two games and saved one that's almost incomparable and one bumgarner. The World Series MVP, Bumgarner is no longer the pitcher he was then his last four seasons three with the giants in one with Arizona he's just twenty, twenty, nine with a three two, we are a but what he? Did in two thousand, fourteen world series defines postseason pitching, greatness Toyota does it you don't have it for forever and you would hope your manager of all people would let you be out there and do what you do and do what you do for your team and for him and Bumgarner run was spectacular Toni may have been emitted come to already he was one in four with the e R, a of six and a half was zero Zona. This season I don't think you can get it back. Can you have another very late career run? But you've taken shot after shot at Kevin Care about back weeks have. Christian. McCaffrey returning for the Panthers Tonight yes there is the Thursday night game and no, it isn't much of a draw. It's the largely faceless Carolina Panthers against the awesome choking Atlanta Falcons who really need to keep Arthur blank off the sideline the game just got a little compelling if possible because all pro running back Christian McCaffrey won't be activated. McCaffrey is going to continue to rest the high ankle sprain he. Suffered during week two, interestingly, the panthers were owing to when McCaffrey went down and they've been three into since in large part because running back Mike Davis is averaged over one hundred yards from scrimmage in the first four games of McCaffrey's. Absence. Carolina's done. Okay. With new coach Matt Rule New quarterback Teddy Bridgewater Atlanta finds new and humiliating ways to lose every week. We'll I assume you'll be glued to this game. You know Tony I probably will be I mean what is sports on tonight to watch for me you know I'm I'm sure there's some collegiate something or other, but I will watch this and Carolina was three and oh without McCaffrey they won their first three games without him and they lost the bears and they love subsequently again. But you know showing they're they're able. To evolve and develop other players in his absence, and that is pretty good from rule, isn't it? So I feel the same way you do we had that glut of games we had basketball and hockey and baseball, and every night we also game together not now in the NFL and maybe college football depending on what happens. Yeah and you say to yourself whatever's on that's. Signed up. Yeah nowhere is today. Let's go to the big finish. The New York giants and Los Angeles. Both at an offensive Lineman test positive your thoughts, the players and close contacts of quarantine Tony Hope, it doesn't spread beyond that. Julian had knee surgery. He will miss at least this week's game against the bills. That's a big loss. Isn't it? With you have surgery enrolling GonNa Miss One game. What kind of magic surgery is at least Italy's adamant is a great great. All purpose player for many years with the Patriots he lied some with twenty one receptions. Go over the Middle Mike My. Doubt Yeah, he might be He's knocked out. Big Ten rejected Nebraska's attempt to replace Wisconsin. School. Yes. That's D. to ut Chattanooga's at the right call. We're going to stick with the big ten schedule. One schools did listening the a d the maybe the full was I don't get started. Jacks. quarterback Gardner Menchu was multiple fractures and strained ligaments in his right thumb that significant is throwing hand right this throwing hand. He's on the by let's see if he can get it back or it's Mike Glennon last one rope early back in action today anything here that. Joe's Day Marine Yo and Tottenham lost the Antwerp one nil respect. Toward Tony I'm talking to you. Shocked O.`Neil. Time trying to better the next time on suddenly Kornheiser I'm Mike. Wilpon same time tomorrow knuckleheads. You can get the podcast on the ESPN APP or apple podcasts. Tracy Colleen. Shout out. Look haunted. Think so what about those two creepy girls come stay pass Truly frightening. Missing on a guy goes great service with Kako, you get twenty, four, seven access to licensed agents. Thank. 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CBS 2 News AM News Update 11-10-20

CBS2 News Chicago

01:14 min | 2 months ago

CBS 2 News AM News Update 11-10-20

"I'm ryan baker in the cbs to newsroom with thursday morning headlines the united states supreme court will hear arguments today two in the affordable care act commonly known as obamacare. The high court upheld two previous legal challenges but this time there's a heavy conservative majority on the bench but the addition of president trump appointee and former chicago judge amy coney barrett newly hired white sox manager. Tony larussa is facing a dui charge. Larussa was arrested back in february and arizona. But the official misdemeanor charge came just hours before. The socks named the hall of famer as their skipper for a second time. This is about two weeks ago and they knew about it. The seventy six year old larussa pleaded guilty to driving under the influence in florida in two thousand seven this time. He allegedly ran his car into a curb near phoenix's sky harbor airport. He refused a breathalyzer test. The socks reportedly said he is not in danger of losing his job record. High of seventy four is expected today but it will be followed by possible severe storms late this afternoon and evening. A significant cool down is coming tomorrow. Download the free. Cbs chicago app for updates throughout the day on our digital streaming network cbs in chicago. I'm ryan baker.

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WBEZs Weekly News Roundup

Reset with Jenn White

20:19 min | 3 months ago

WBEZs Weekly News Roundup

"Well the last seven days that brought us more tricks than treats like covid nineteen level spiking the situation here in all of Cook County City, and suburbs alike is bad and it's getting worse businesses pushing back lawsuits have now been filed on behalf of several restaurants across the area and concern over Chicago's budget. There's nothing easy about this budget. No easy decisions whatsoever I'm Justin. Kauffman and we're taking you deep inside those stories and more on wbz's weekly news roundup. Joining me this week around the virtual table eighty quit from crain's Chicago business eighty. Welcome back. Thank stressing it also with us propublica Illinois reporter and columnist. MIC DONKEY MIC WELCOME BACK Good to be here. I was a little surprised about how the mayor was emphasizing the city's post-election plans eighty take us through that what what they talking about doing on election? Day. So merely lightfoot said they had been basically preparing for this sense this summer with an eye toward potential unrest on election. Day, we've known for a while now that we might not actually have results of the presidential election mate, Senate races on election night. So she said we've been doing tabletop exercises. We've strengthened partnerships that we have with city agencies with county folks with Illinois State, police with federal. Partners at the FBI the US Attorney's Office to basically mobilize for the next ten days over Halloween weekend election day after the election just in case anything happens and that anything encompasses a lot of different stuff. She said we tested we tried out if we have a giant storm if we have a big covert outbreak, if we have violence and looting did earlier this summer if ballot boxes. Get set on fire. They basically said, we wanted to plan for all eventualities and ensure that we make people feel safe until them that we have a plan so that they can feel like they're voting safely. I can't remember in my time mick being in Chicago a mayor making that kind of press conference before an election I interpreted this as in addition to getting some inkling of what They're specifically, GONNA GONNA try to do or be ready for just to try to send the message that, hey, we're thinking about this. We're GONNA be prepared especially the way that people saw attributed what happened over the summer and and how upset people were about that. But Ad L. S. question I just the idea that those the votes of the the situations that happen this summer were after A. Black. Man was shot by police. So what makes them jump to the conclusion that there's going to be similar things happening in Chicago based on election results any emotionally heightened moment, and I would definitely count this election as emotionally. Heightened moment gives rise to concerns about massive protests and even back in twenty sixteen, the city saw protests after Donald Trump's election. So she said given how can keyed up everyone is motionless is what large stakes we have here we want to show everyone that we're ready and make everyone feel okay and that we don't get. Caught off guard by all the different things happening right now because we not only have this election, but we have these these new cove restrictions and there's so much going on right now in the city basically saying, we want to be prepared for all of your discussion going on around the country about getting ballots in access to the polls. Safety of getting asking to the polls both because of course, and then potential threat. So even people who are claiming, they're not being threatening. You've talked about to carry arms into the polling places tough. That's going on around the country. So it just seems wise to me that they would not only have a plan. Of course also I tried to let people know that they have a plan I, just I. Agree with you I think the preparations important. It's good to say, Hey, and communication as well. But I don't know when you start talking about dump trucks and blocking streets and things like that. I it just seems like it's it's more inevitable than preventative interesting story. All right. Let's move onto Cova Nineteen yesterday Illinois reported a new daily high for the states over sixty three hundred confirmed cases fifty-six additional ad. Talking about the response we're seeing on the state and local level. I'm always kind of astonished honest to look at these everyday our test positive at eight point one percent. Daily Tester twelve thousand daily cases are at eight hundred, forty one that's up about twenty five percent a week ago we're approaching a cumulative total in Chicago of one hundred thousand cases. So this week mitigations ramped up big time. We saw some last week from the mayor. It's been very confusing soldiers say here's where they stand not here's how they've changed. So No. Indoor drinking or dining no booze purchases from grocery stores or liquor stores or Walgreens after nine PM and the city's mitigations will now match the state. Basically everything closes at eleven pm that includes liquor sales at bars and restaurants. You could still do carry out of cocktails and beer but this week was notable not only for more mitigations kind of this back and forth. Between the mayor and the governor, would you think of that mic the governor putting the restrictions to mayor I stepping out saying we want him to change that and then ultimately agreeing with him? Well, I. Thought that it was just a that our governing officials like the rest of us are incredibly frustrated and looking for answers and there aren't any good answers you know we could bore into the politics a little better. I'm sure Lori lightfoot wanted to be seen as standing up for the restaurant and bar industry especially after. As AV mention, she had restricted the hours that they could operate. So it's the old adage they're trying to control the things that they can control, and that's you know putting restrictions on these businesses they really can't control people independently deciding to get together in the privacy of their own homes. So I think they're just trying to be seen doing something about stuff that's within their power to to ACA. Well, this morning add Illinois Restaurant Association had their press conference they're threatening legal action they're going to do legal action against the governor they. Are. Completely against any mitigation when it comes to closing down indoor restaurants here in not just Chicago but the state of Illinois. I mean, they're becoming sort of a political player here in the way that they're representing restaurants but they're also getting you know they're being heard in the political arena right now I think the restaurant association has been a political player this entire time they just haven't had to be an oppositional political player I think they've been at the table with. The mayor they love saying we like being at the table not on the menu over over there in a tough spot with their members. A lot of their members, restaurants and bars will close because there's not enough revenue they can't make it through. But in the end, the governor has one on most of these things on many of these lawsuits brought against him. They have a far more winning record than they have a losing one and the other thing is the mitigations have been the mitigations for. Some time. The governor laid these out back early in the summer It just sounds like as soon as it got to Chicago in the suburbs that became a really big problem I think folks were hoping for a few more weeks of a mix of indoor and outdoor business and having indoor completely shutdown has a big impact while the Illinois Restaurant Association. Says, five thousand restaurants have already closed. We've also seen mic in outside of Chicago. You've seen number restaurants say they're going to defy the order. Dickens work any better than the carrots have. I'm not sure that it will but you're totally right Justin I mean we see people were in an age we see people like on social media posting proudly pictures of themselves in social environments where they're not wearing math I saw a conservative talk show host do not be named here posting proudly with a group of unmasked people at a suburban restaurant basically saying look we're defying the rules and again I just want to come back to you everyone is frustrated I I certainly. people turn to lead us through these multiple crises are incredibly frustrated. What's been interesting to see is how the governor and his team tried to message this because obviously, we've all been hearing these messages for months and months you have the social distance you have to wear a mask you have to wash your hands and at some point people that frustration and covert fatigue that we're all hearing I think is becoming. Difficult for people to get over but if we saw Dr Ezekiel last week, this kind of shook me a new. I'm one of the people that updates our Kobe tarts every day and Dr Zeke broke down in tears the other week thinking about all the people that will have Thanksgiving dinner with family member not there and. What I think leaders are so tired and frustrated by is they're trying to save people's lives and like Nick said, people are proudly probably the fighting it. I I don't know how you message how you message that people are dying. And get people to really hear it looks to talk about what's really happening here from the top down federal government. Approaching United States is one of these people. Okay who is openly defied a proudly defied made it basically a theme of his campaign to defy the advice, the top officials in his own administration and so I think that's why we have this topsy turvy situation. There is no unified message coming from the top about what we're supposed to do share more or. Less is among public health people but you have all these other political leaders who have tremendous clout and influence who are defying and saying they're going to defy it and a Lotta people actually believe what was saying others. It's just the moment where you know to be the opposition to the public health people to be the opposition to the governor's inclined to impose these kinds of mitigations which are really restrictions that just in political favor with a certain group of people it. Founding okay. That's Mick dumpty with Propublica Illinois. We're also joined by eighty CRAIN's Chicago business. We still get a lot of stories making news this week stories like these newly released police camera footage, reveal some of what happened just before an officer fired the deadly shots last week in what Keegan as Supreme Court ruled on the consequential ballot case in Wisconsin the Senate confirmed. Amy conybeare. To become the nation's newest justice the after he was inducted into the baseball hall of fame as a manager Tony Larussa is back whereas coaching career began forty one years ago as manager of the White Sox I mean things that happened on Monday feel. Happened weeks ago months ago. What a week all eighty let's turn to the city budget. It's going to go into hearings. It looks like the Progressive Caucus is GonNa make their asks are you thinking that the mayor will start to see some roadblocks put up for this budget the fact that any conybeare was Monday and also the the first budget hearing was Monday. That feels like a month ago. So Alderman of had a bit of time to go through things. They got briefed by finance officials on Monday and they've been going through departmental hearing the. Rest of the week another easy thing to get fatigued by these things last from like nine am to six PM and it's all over soon. But to bring everyone up to speed the budget is three big pots, basically borrowing cuts and new revenue and it's enough to make everybody mad. But when Alderman from the Progressive Caucus specifically said this week was we need to figure out how we can avoid this ninety four, million dollar property tax increase and how we can avoid these three, hundred fifty layoffs and the things that they suggested a couple of them. Would not be good for the city's already kind of shaky ratings they're advocating both were either aggressive borrowing getting more aggressive with this already one point seven billion refinancing were planning to do or drawing down more on the city's reserves, which is also not. Smiled upon by ratings agencies, we're just GONNA continue to see pushback on both the property tax hike because no Alderman. Lake's property tax hikes regardless of your ideology and I think the layoffs too because no one wants to lay anybody off in the middle of a recession. We the mayor on Wednesday and she was yesterday I asked her about horse-trading. This tester like, are you going to be given some of these goodies to Alderman so that you could pass your budget she said she's not for sale. So she kind of campaigned on the idea that it's not going to be business as usual and that business as usual how budgets got passed. So is she in a tough spot because she's not going to be able to compromise with some of the issues in this budget you don't have to be there sale to engage in horse trading that is part of compromise that's part of politics as. I understand it. She proposed to create a new city council committee that would essentially keep one of her allies in a committee chairmanship as part of this budget that certainly doesn't seem absolutely necessary for looking for cuts across the board. So the notion she's not engaging any kind of horse-trading I think is is pretty silly and I would hope that she dies because she needs to get something passed. I think the bigger problems justin in a D is that she doesn't have a lot of horse trade with there's not much money here everything in a d just laid out it's going to cost taxpayers one way or another whether it's a property tax whether it is increased fines and fees whether it is we do services, which in turn people will have to you know probably we Come up with some other way to get those services they clean up their neighborhoods whatever or whether it's basically you know increase costs four, the debt that the city has a very substantial city has no there's no free. Pat. Here's this budget process is going to be a certainly it's about money. It's about politics. It's about which groups you're going to be asking to pay now, and how much of this you can kind of put off and hope that things improve or hope that's an aide comes from the feds or the state later. Another story I WANNA I WANNA move onto a Waukegan, the fatal police shooting of a nineteen year old black man in Waukegan Marcellus dinette. And the city said. They fired the police officer and they said, we're going to release these videos. We're going to show you were going to be transparent. We're GONNA do everything that other police departments haven't, but the videos came out and what did we find Mick what on the video or what wasn't on the video more importantly. Once again, this police officer didn't have a body camera is activated, and so I understand that there are gaps in what we are able to see and So many of these things followed some kind of gray space but over and over again it's one name after another that people are just left wondering why do the police have to keep shooting people lie aren't there some other approaches Other alternatives even if you're talking about the need for mom I, why isn't there? Another series of alternatives or systems in place to keep people from getting shot. That's the we keep coming back here. Yeah. You always help when there's body cam footage or Dash Cam footage that you'll get a whole story we don't, and we're not and it's playing out everywhere. It's played out here in Chicago. It's hard and discouraging to try to keep up with all of these cases we case in Philadelphia Obviously, Chicago has had its long history with with this kind of. Stuff and I don't want to bring it back to the budget every time. But this is something that Aldermen are considering in this budget worse in ways that we can actually work to reform the department and not mix things up just at the edges seriously rethink about how it operates and what it's mandates are and part of that. That's not directly related to this kind of is in terms of thinking differently about how police operate as who is responding to these calls. And what are they responsible for something Progressive Alderman want to do is have a mental health professional respond to mental health calls and they don't like the mayor's current idea which includes an officer who can use deadly force responding to the scene at the same time So this is this is played out for months and months I out cities around the country are grappling with this in the wake of George Floyd. But this has been going on for years. I always love talking right before the election because you break down the racist that are important. What, which ones are you watching locally because we're obviously, there's so many all eyes are in the Senate and the and the White House but but locally, one of the races that Illinois should be paying attention to. So I will give you my brief overview. I care a lot about what happens to the fair tax and how quickly we find out the fate of that that might be a couple days because of the way these ballot initiatives workout I'm interested in whether Mike, Madigan grows his current supermajority into a super duper majority. Has, he has a seventy four nickel term that's a technical political term So at seventy four right now but if he wins all the races that he's outspending Republicans on in the house, he could have eight more seats, which is just a crazy number. I'm also interested in Kim Fox this has been a big money race, a big political race. We've seen some downtown Alderman defecting to Pat O'Brien We saw Kamala Harris come in and endorse her this week receiving tons of ugly adds up but we haven't had a we haven't had a Republican states attorney here since nineteen, ninety, six, I think so I'm just I'm interested to see what the margins are there. Jack o'malley, right? Yeah. The last The, they'd starring Mick. What about you? What are you looking at? Just, add to what easy said her list with. The congressional races, a couple of year that could affect probably not control the US House although who knows everything is still crazy but. It'll be interesting to see if Democrats can hold onto a couple of the seats they picked up in the suburbs or right outside of Chicago area two years ago, and then if they can make any more inroads in other. Feats here so I think that's definitely something alive. Last Story to bring up in our Friday news roundup is Tony Larussa the White Sox You know a mic I. Know You're Baseball Fan Tony Larussa coming back to baseball at seventy six years old the oldest manager in in baseball. What's your thought on on bringing him back to the South Side Jeff and I was picking mad. It's good to be fifteen years old again 'cause. Yeah. He was manager I remember from when you and I about the same age these a little bit younger than us We won't hold it against her but. You know remember him damaging at the old Comiskey park go to game to the old comiskey. Park. So my first impression in one of my best friends from growing up who is you come guy first and foremost but my friend who is a diehard sox fan was just a you know w t f question-mark facts that I. I think a lot of people are scratching their heads. He's been out of the game for almost a decade net said years a hall of Famer. He's one three world series titles at two different clubs, and you know we'll see if he can look match again I mean what? What are you thinking? What would you? I don't know I I I'm a guy, and it's tough I mean yeah. He wins wherever he goes and I. saw a great someone put up on facebook. Just the idea that you know we've tried the player managers or the you know the PLA- the managers that relate to the players. How's that gone so far? Just, bringing manager who wins eighty what's your thought on Tony Larussa? So I am only a Sox Fan because my dad is a SOx Fan. So I texted him to ask what he thought. He said good move. He's smart. That's always. And then I. Also pulled my bridgeport sources and they said, you know Jerry Reinsdorf always regretted firing him in the eighties. So there's a little bit of politics there. But the biggest worry is his ability to relate with younger players, which which will be interesting to watch. That is the extent of my analysis on the. Go. I. Love It. The. Best analysis of heard so far your dad was. Data. Sources. All right. That's it for the Friday news roundup. Thanks to our panel today eighty crain's Chicago business and Mick Donkey of PROPUBLICA Illinois ad mic. Thanks so much guys. And that's WBZ's weekly news roundup for the Best Cuny around the COVID nineteen pandemic watch this podcast feed on Sunday for our conversation, Dr Mia, Tear Amina, and take ten seconds to give us a rating. It really helps other people find this podcast. I'm Justin Kauffman thanks for listening and we'll catch you right back here next week.

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Postgame Show: Exciting News!

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

18:55 min | 3 months ago

Postgame Show: Exciting News!

"Guys, I have to apologize to everybody who did the show with us today it was so hectic and so busy and so weird that I wasn't able to go to you guys as much as I wanted to just to talk about stuff because the show was moving. So fast today Chris you looked uncomfortable all show billy you looked really uncomfortable during the breaks like that costume seems to have been something that really weighed on you a little bit. I you Chris like what shape are you in after wearing other than round it was a bad shape before the costume but he was wearing like a box all show that garbage can cost him. It was a good costume. But you're uncomfortable. All show. Yes I. had to sit leaning forward or else you couldn't even really see me it wasn't a box by the way. This is an actual trash. Can I don't have to know that you can't see it really, I I used an actual traffic in that I was sitting in holes that I cut out of it. So it was my back is really hurt. Yes. Judging by the listener reaction on twitter it seems like outside of legs they enjoyed your cost in the most our listeners they did. It's fun. It's a funny costume and good costume. So good work there. Billy's was also funny but funny last year when he wore. And it looks uncomfortable. It looks it looks really unwieldly. It's it's very impractical to be doing something and so like. It's uncomfortable deflated. I had to change the batteries at some point in time I had to find a screwdriver because for whatever reason, the battery pack requires a screwdriver to do that I had to find the batteries and then I had to follow along with looks likes I. had to take it off because I couldn't see through that and then the Games So there's lots of, it's not the easiest to do the daily activities in while you're wearing plus I couldn't find my a-rod I had to put the headphones on underneath then put the cord through the sleeve and then I was cutting that off and switch our it was you know Happy Halloween. Like all show you guys were sort of fighting and wrestling with your with your costumes. was there anything you guys wanted to get to like? Larussa, we didn't even get to talk about Larussa headed back to the big leagues seventy six years old whatever the Mike Sharon unhinged Mike share calling in Col- Mike sure real quick. Ribeiro Call Mike sure. He'll come on here. It's not exactly how an open invitation work she can't say, hey, open invite they don't call them and you're like I'm getting. He's pretty much G. WANNA come today. I mean he's already done so these actions Wonder his action show up Mike reach out to. A was on the group text. You do the thing where you're like, Hey. Let's see if Mike sure has any time but you you've essentially done it and bye. Bye. Bye see seeing him on a tax. Put Him on that text. That's my bad. Habit. I like Larussa saying that this is a win. Now move you don't say Tony this isn't going to be a ten year rebuild seventy, six seven. Way Billy when I was in the hall of fame, he's already inducted into the hall of fame. They take it very seriously. So there's Larussa the wait five more years after he retires to get. This seems like the type of move Tony Larussa would rant at someone else for doing. You're already in the hall of fame. You're embarrassing the hall of fame by going back to the game after being inducted what are you doing? This shouldn't happen but hey, it's Tony Artie, get rid get rid of Rick Renteria for being too old school. What's going on here? Did you see their email announcement to season ticket holders? I don't know what was going on behind the scenes but maybe AJ hinch was in the mix because they put out a graphic. Tony Larussa signed but the signature on this sort of baseball card graphic that they put out there was AJ hinch is thought it was really funny. and Aj hinch has now been hired. Right I did was he hired? Are they negotiating a deal right now? I think it's Tigers are or working with them. I am going to give the audience those promised thoughts from. Mike. Sure. Via twitter here is can tremendous on twitter our friend Mike. Sure he is a you know one of the big show in Hollywood on Brooklyn nine nine, the good place and he did parks rec created parks and REC. It's very important that we clean his up henches not been hired yet, but he is talking with the Tigers about taking over the very zero position more. Important than the white sox cleaned that up because that's a very bad mistake to hire Tony Larussa and put the signature of Aj hinch on there. But what Mike Sure Rights and he was steaming yesterday, and this is basically all you need to know about the Larussa higher because got also got that bad moment on our show for years ago where he's talking about Colin Kaepernick in a way that sounds not only wrong side of history but it sounds like He was a bit ignorant as it regards ripping Colin Kaepernick for seeming an insincere person when he didn't know Colin Kaepernick but he was saying. You knew him because he's managed on the West Coast before because he knows the west coast was in the proximity of them. So I basically. So here is what Mike sure has to say the White Sox are young fun as hell and predominantly Latin. So who do they get to manage the team? Naturally seventy six year old white guy who hasn't coached in a decade supports the tea party and Glenn Beck and was arrested for being drunk and asleep at the wheel of his suv hard to overstate how exactly precisely wrong. Larosa. Larussa is to coach this team specifically just perfectly wrong if you were trying. To sabotage the white sox like trump sabotaging the post office you'd hire Larussa. He's the Louis d joy of baseball managers. I'm losing my mind when we talk about alienating young people and losing market share baseball deserves everything it gets no he's just a manager, but it's hard not to predict one of the most fun and dynamic young teams in the game just got more boring and worse. Tim Anderson is great and fond and loves to FLIP HIS BAT looking forward to his game internal suspension for not respecting the game after he hit to walk off to beat the Yankees and pumps his fist a little too hard. Wow. I really thought. You. Don't give anything that much thought. You are allergic and incapable. Of thought it's just Larussa. Because why would you because it? If you care about baseball, you know what I keep hearing these people care about baseball. That's Kirk today they're afraid. Yeah. They're afraid their game is getting so distorted that they don't even love it as much and when you see sort of society spill into baseball this way. Where Tony Larussa 's being sent in to manage a guy on the white sox was exciting but he himself has told us that he finds baseball boring and he got all sorts of trouble because he's find baseball boring because he's a bat flipper while maybe this is a step in the right direction for baseball and for Tim. Coaching because I will tell you this. Okay Tony Larussa is not coming out to grab Blake's now after five and a third or sixth. that. Did the mixing in Malachi remind you of Dave Stewart. If you walked out to the mound that tried to take the ball at stews hands, he would punch you know but Larussa invented the change, a bunch of relievers. Right about that but that was a long time ago. Dan I've been California. Cool. Long enough this East Coast bias obvious and you didn't go to me when we were going to the to the costumes and stuff you ask Chris in the Mid West. Obviously Miami. You don't want to talk about the La Dodgers that's we've talked about the raise long enough. Are we suspending Justin Turner forever? That's my question to you. He went out there it broke. Celebrated with somebody with a survivor who celebrate with a team with a city. Under Siege Right. Now, if you want me to be honest and you didn't ask me how the traffic was today, you didn't ask me how my kills movie was today I'm going to have an Avocado Burger later on launch A. East Coast on this show. Sickening. So I'm hoping that some point you guys can get your act together and us here in La can actually starting into the Shari Tony I really appreciate. Okay because I did not give your Halloween costume enough attention and you just took it by force by being in character Daniel day-lewis as Jorges Sodano I salute you for that. That's a big hack by you and I salute you all around for correcting me and getting your costume out into the universe because you deserve it you're a good costume and I should have gone to you for more Sodano impersonations if you want to wear it next week fake Sodano is welcome here. Okay. If you want to be has to wear the cost. But if you have just told you, you've just earned a spot look speaking of earning spots. Okay. You have just earned an inherited a spot on next week show as only. You will get more my time, but you have to be in character all week as Jorges it on. Amazon I'm glad. I'm glad we're doing that to you. Next week Mike does not think it's fair Mike thinks it's wrong of me to do this thing it's inside. inside and so what we are inside, we are secret joke for the audience here in the post game and big Suey and the local hour and many of you who have been listening for a long time. No the story of Juju Godley, and we're going to give you a little more of this story of John Gotti because. He is a guy who represents the spirit of this show in a way that is a bit hard to articulate but I am going to attempt to articulate at the greatest compliment that we get around here I. Think I don't I haven't actually spent a lot of time talking about this with the guys but it's when someone tells us that we brought them through a dark time that as creatures and characters that exist in their head through this intimate medium where it's not largely visual and too many of you. We feel like your friends we feel like a people that you know and want to. Hang. Out With and WANNA watch games with for the ones who care about us. The most a Juju Gotti was in a super dark place and this doesn't even make sense when I'm about to tell you right. It's a bit incongruous but this young black guy who does hip hop on the side he befriends Greg Cody of the Miami Herald and befriends him away. That's unusual because during his darkest time, a Greg Cody of the Miami Herald was doing things on the show that ended up making him laugh doesn't make sense in Congress. What does that mean? Yes incongruous. It doesn't make sense it something. Is Not I'm glad I can help you with that anyway. So Juju Gotti basically credits greg cody in some ways laughter during Dr Time for saving his life at a time that I believe he was he was homeless or at least I think he was living in his car and so anyways. Incongruously. Juju. Gotti has a tattoo of Greg Cody, and now he's gotten a tattoo of a bunch of the shows characters. To symbolize, I would imagine that whatever that is and we're proud of it and we're happy to have him be a part of what we're doing. Many of you have also noticed that he's exceptional at social media. Many of you have liked dude you Gotti so much that allegedly you got fired from the job that he was at because you called too much and he no longer had a job and so because he's earned it and proved himself around here because you really seem to like his social media presence we have hired him to do our social media stuff not just. Not just on weekends, but he's going to end up, doing it for us and and we're looking forward to what that produces right now as soon as I'm off here. As soon as we get off here, he will be handling our social media accounts for the foreseeable future, which means rest in peace unsigned tweets from Dan, Le Batard. To sign all of its now as well Ju Ju. It's really fun over the weekends and we were trying to do out for the better part of a year and a half and he's proven himself. We got what we were looking for in terms of new followers and more is looking at some of the stuff that we're doing and we got a kick out of and you did too. So Ju- congratulations you've earned it pal. Do I still put up the Poles. Good question I could go to. Sorry. Would you like that off your plate Guillermo like that side? To handle that because we I mean he's higher now we're we're paying them money like that's. I'm sure. Judy. would be happy to Awasthi. Time though I mean. Is. It why? How well I mean we have someone doing it. We want you to be really create. The big picture big picture, Yeah Yeah Yeah Chris. This announcement seems to have been something that you were surprised by your reacted with genuine joy that I mean I just didn't know that news. I am kind of close with juice I'm just extremely happy for him because I know he's wanted to be a part of this as much as we'd let him and that's a big step and I'm just happy for him. He's a warm sweet man Juju gotta he really is he's just a nice caring man very thoughtful person. So I'm super excited for that is a great job by by Juju and a great job I you Dan getting them on the Steph Mike. CAN WE TAKE Some calls here? Just let's bang through them because these people have been waiting for for a long time. Let's just unscreened. Let's just do some calls because we promise these people we were going to do some to calls a congratulations to Juju Gaudy we are happy to have him around as another member of the team. Let's go ahead and do we have names are just lying these are unscreened and kind of tricky because of the Tim Kirch Show I couldn't get rid of to a calls to get Kirch in baseball calls without it being another to call. So it was a confusing day here on the Lebatardshow, we're going unscreened here line one you're on the air right now. You. Is. Flaming Lips. All right. Keep going. Keep lying to you are live on the air. Crew to to where Chuck to go to. The. Really. We may have a good t e. But sure let's go and change to. Our backup QB. And he looks right check out that ball. Man The spy rules But I. Still don't steal. WHAT EP classy. Field. Miami me. Honestly you could've stopped after two ago chuck. Salute you yes I mean. You had us at though at the very beginning. Thank you for calling. Line three, you are now on the air. Or to Tile here low. laurey bench tweets Patrie. Fine nor quarterback east who still GonNa go away and a towards who? Little Stephen Ross is Brian Florida. If you get hurt more on. Donald. Might up to calm that marked for under Jewish. Know not as much. In school. I know. You. Tagging just because we check. You FIG poverty? No No. No. Number will need in Bravo's well done very much. Good Work do we have many more? Should we end on that? No, because I do a lot better than that. But we also I feel bad for these people have been holding all damn shows people haven't been holding all show. They're just still calling because their mental. What are you guys say risk for the Bisky I would like. I have an idea Dan, give them your phone number and they can call you sing to you do that right now and then we end on a high note. WHO's GONNA give it out. Just. How is that going to entertain the audience? You'll tell us I'll get it is. Six on the air. Go ahead. You guys still thinking to songs. Go quick. All, La, he runs throw here on WPRO. I'll take it. We actually have a celebrity submission I mean Kerley Call Zach Harper Celebrity but Zach Harper who's been doing some twitch streams with us. Right work for the athletic. He sent me this voice notes submission. So let's go ahead and give them. Some Jain. To to a to a to of everywhere to to to or two thousand everywhere to to or to a to a passing everywhere I've found you my new qb hiked the ball and the to Devante Hall of Famer in a month to get the hips right see what the dolphins do. Not Terrible. The plane Gabbard. Yes. Once again congratulations juju guiding. Make sure to follow us on her social media channels at Lebatardshow on twitter and on instagram. It's a welcome addition to our team and we're really happy about that worth your time and your follow. This place look haunted. Don't think. So those two creepy girls come stay with us that he's truly frightening. Missing Mana. GYCO. Great Service, with Geico you twenty four, seven access to licensed agents. Thank you creepy girls to see her room. Working Asleep in the car now. We'd switch today for twenty four, seven access to licensed agents.

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HR 3: Guess who bought a new house?

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54:51 min | 2 months ago

HR 3: Guess who bought a new house?

"Three o'clock row. What is going on people. Thank you very much for being out there. Thank you very much for listening. You mean a lot to us. So so jon jon. Heyman has a podcast. Mlb insider it's called the big time baseball podcast and he talked a little bit about the dodgers on his last podcast. In here he is on the subject of francisco. Lindores to the dodgers. You know more likely. It's going to be one of the new york teams or you know. Look at la They good move cigarette secret. A third base. I think that's a long shot. Probably at this point. They had tried form linda in the past. I do think they'll try to keep justin turner. Jose free agent and He's been fantastic for them. Obviously had a blip on the resume with the finishing of the world series in coming out there with golden so at one other. Skip to the Number three there on nolan are nado at this point. I think he's going to be traded in the fact is a no trade Just gives him power doesn't mean he's not going to be traded Because at this point. I think wouldn't mind being traded so I probably have to look at the dodgers right eat. Meaning that's blends he probably wants to go is from orange county there And also the angels which is in orange county ability say the angels of l. a. or whatever was angeles angels so yeah los angeles angels of anaheim i think is the official way. Never really stuck with us. So john the idea that a francisco lindor truffles is out there for the dodgers. Still an option. Would you go. If i tell you you can make that trade. Do you do it What's it explained to me exactly what who would be going out in the. Let's let's call it all prospects for door for linda. Yeah you get them all for all prospects. Yeah see i think glendower is very very overrated lindsay. You you follow the indians you. You agree with that right. Yep i was all on the the lindores train and these past two years he's been. He was slightly above average last season. And then this past twenty twenty season. He did not have a good year and he's never shown up in the playoffs. He's the reason why that early exits in the two years. Since they've been to the world series so after the twenty twenty two season there are five shortstops. They're going to be in the market at the same time. Carlos correa. Who's now at the astros francisco lindor hobby bias from the cubs trevor story from the rockies and cory seager from the dodgers john if i give you a choice of i'm gonna plug in a shortstop for the for the next five years. Which of those guys do you want. rob ably career because he hits with power all those i pre- pretty happy with cory seager but he's a scott boras client so i think the dodgers are going to have a lot of trouble re signing him yet. Cory seager from that. Group is my first choice. I mean he was just the mvp in the world. He's going to be looking for mookie. Betts contract you think a monkey batch level. well think about got boris's adri. He's not as productive as mookie. Betts he doesn't do all the things that mckee bats doesn't mean you all the things that machado machado get three hundred million. Yeah i'm a dig at three hundred million. It's fair point and by the way you know what that guy did this year. He won the silver slugger award. Never went to any words with us but won a silver slugger with the padres. Yeah i i'm not as high on door. Is everybody else. The idea of cory seager at shortstop for the next ten years to me makes perfect sense. That would be my priority. Trevor story would actually be my second choice there. He can go thirty thirty anytime. He's got more power than Seager he steals basis. He would be my second choice. But i think i story puts those numbers up once you get out of colorado. It's fair question the stolen base Number real right yeah. He may not have quite the quite the power that is that necessarily shows up and will be in a national league. Ballpark like like Dodger stadium or but i. But i do think trevor story is a beast of a player right so let me regarding cory seager right because scott. Boris is his agent. He's probably going to free agency right. Yes if you're the dodgers do you try and get something for them before that happens in other words if you're going to resign him maybe you do what they did with kershaw for years ago and you just get him signed early before you ever as a chance to go to free agency but scott. Boris never really does that he always takes guys to the open market correct so if he assuming that that's going to happen here and he'll and of course we'll turn down any offer. The dodgers make to him. Yup do you trade him get something for them and then you could always go back in and re sign him when he becomes available or you can sign one of the other guys. What do you think. I think you probably wind up with one of the other guys. If that's the case in trade secret and get something for them. Yeah but you don't wanna trade. I mean you want to go to the playoffs with cory seager. You don't wanna waste a playoff year with cory. Seager defense what you get back. I mean we're going to the world series again next year. We need corey singer and we're going the year after that we need for well. Listen this is now. This is now has dynasty right. But who do you think. The dodgers have dynasty potential last team to win back to back world series. We'd have to go back to the yankees. I think you've got to go back to the yankees. It's hard to do. It's but three world series and four years and one win. I think we're going to be in it every single year to go to the world series. I am so frigging optimistic. So optimistic about this This dodgers team all right. So i want to ask you something completely different. Do you know we've not done this in a while. But there is such thing in the world as a karen and a karen is a complainer. Usually someone wearing a mask. No somebody not wearing a mask. The doesn't think like they should have to put it on so we found this karen right here. She actually dials. Listen gosh awareness. Because i can't. I'll have a panic attack. I will freak out. I will have an anxiety attack. Yeah as pie. The nineteen sixty four civil rights. Act i cannot be discriminated against I do have a right to be able to breathe. Oh to co two and i m being discriminated against right now i have a religious exemption right and a god given rights to breathe over to the medical exception a haunt yes medical exemption to so. You're one of the first people that i've called nine one one who actually doesn't seem to understand that in the end i'm actually the one with the right. You can say all you want. I do know in the end. I have the right. And in the end i wanted to sue this gentleman. I quit and i will win. I work with dell victory over with. Robert kennedy jr. I'll work with peggy hall. Those are names that you might not be familiar with. But i am and i know that everyone who calls in order to have their rights. Species is Even every a bad name was. I was in medical or religious. It was everything it was anything. Yeah calling the nine one one. That's that's where. Are you surprised. John by the way that we haven't talked about this that. Aj hinch got the tigers shaaban. Alex cora got the red sox job. I told you they would not be out of work long thought. Oh going to be trouble getting work again. They basically sat out there year. Now have jobs. Yeah i was a little surprised. Bob nightingale on the show when you were gone and nightingale said basically that there is no hangover from that whole cheating scandal. The players didn't get punish. The managers are back in baseball. Nobody cares about lou now so he said that. Really the whole. Mlb punishment was a joke. Well i think lou now who was president of baseball operations in houston. He suing to save more than twenty two million in guaranteed salary so they terminated him without pay and his attorney is arguing that he is being made a scapegoat for the organization. And by the way i think. Aj hinch was much more involved in the signed. Su stealing scandal than jeffrey. Luna was jeffrey luna is an executive. He's not down in the locker room hanging out. Bang trash cans. That's something that. aj hinch knows. About and jeff luna may not. So i think jeff munoz got a point that he's being scapegoated for all this while. Aj hinch is skating. All right so let me ask you this about lou now yup in the suit. He claims he had no knowledge of the cheating scandal. It was executed by players and coaches in the dugout. Yup rob manfred says they have tons of evidence that indicates otherwise but even if luna wins the lawsuit. Yeah doesn't this pretty much scare off any other team. That was thinking about hiring him. Now that we know he's the guy that if you ever fire him he'll just sue. Would you call it. He's being. He's suing for wrongful termination. Right i mean. They ended twenty two million dollar contract over this and he says i. I didn't deserve to be fired okay. So let's say telling the truth and he didn't know anything. Let me tell you. And he'd be fired for lack of institutional control that that this happened on his watch. Yeah but i mean it happened more on. Aj hinch is what he got fired. And now he's back in the game and jeff that is able to get back in the game but yes it's been canceled as he's yeah but he's suing jim crane. I'm saying if you're on the jury. He's suing jim crane for whatever you said. Twenty two million dollars right and couldn't jim cranes defense be look I hired jeff. Liu now and aj hinch to be my management team. Right luna was my general manager. Hinch was my manager when this story broke. I fired both of them. And to use a steve mason line. Aj hinch is back in the game. Why why can't jeff loon. I'll go get a job. Well i think. I think jeff luna should be able to get a job. I think he was wrongfully terminated right. So what's what's stopping him. Why why is that. My pretend i'm Jim crane wise up my problem i fired both of them fired inch i fired lou now. Why hinch suing me. Because i don't know how much money hinch lost. I don't know how long has contract was. Well he's not suing me for anything right. The balloon o- supposed to make twenty two million dollars. That's a lot of money to anybody man right. Twenty five million dollars is a big deal. I'm in the jury. I'm finding against liu now. I am finding against all of them okay. I think they're all wrong. I think all are slimy cheaters. And i don't want anybody to ever forget what scumbags when they stole the world series front. What from us in two thousand seventeen. But if i was see a woeful baseball if i was the mets steve cohen. Just said okay. I didn't buy this thing to make money. I bought it. Because i think mets fans deserve a winner and if we don't win a world series within three to five years. It's going to be a disappointment. If i was steve cohen. i would hire jeff luneau. I think he already hired sandy. Alderson he did he did to me. That's old school i want. I want the. I want what houston did what tampa is doing with the dodgers are doing. I want some of that magic dust. I went home. Blum who's boss is our lookout for the mets. That guy has deep pockets. Oh yeah that guy could go out. Signed two or three huge free agents and trade for door. He might if he he already came at a press conference today he already said we're getting to the world series of than three to five years and he's gonna spend money he's going to be. He's they're going to be dodgers east. Those guys spend a lot of dough. Yeah all right coming up next for you. john kass. who sold their house. Do you know. I don't know this is intriguing. And also what do you want your house to smell like for the holidays. Okay smelled you. think of. That's coming up next for you. Don't forget at any moment we could give you the destination. Write it down and then be listening in the five o'clock hour with george chelsea. They will give you a cuticle be caller number seven. You want a virtual key. That could start the brand-new mazda. Cx five sport with a thousand dollars cash in the glove. Box from culver city mazda. Any moment we're going to give you that destination. Make sure you stay here. Mason ireland seven ten. Espn i seven ten. Espn one of the big stories of the day. By and don't forget that destination don't forget it in being here in the five o'clock hour for a chance to win a virtual key to the twenty twenty one mazda. Cx five sport with a thousand dollars. Cash the glove box from culver city mazda remembered that destination okay so one of the big stories of the day is that tony larussa who was hired as manager of the chicago white sox it turns out had a dui earlier this year. The white sox new about it whether it was disclosed or whether they did a background check they knew about it The incident as described in the police report included. Tony larussa saying listen. I m a world series guy world's hall of fame to see this ring bro. You're thing me. And i thought baseball guy and if i'm chicago i don't want this embarrassment. I fire this guy. That's a ridiculous position is not a somebody breaks the law on my watch. Seriously wait a minute. All's it takes for you to fire somebody that if someone at our radio station breaks the law you i mean it depends what law it depends. What law gets a. Dui gets well if you are going to do. I think we're done. I think we're canceled. Probably although i know. I know announcers who've gotten them that haven't been canceled do you. I do so do you. So yeah like a clause in your contract about morality or serious. Yeah i think it would fall under the i would. I would blow the guy out. I mean i'll be. I would just blow the guy out i. I can't believe they hired him despite the fact that he had the dui and played the. Don't you know who i am card. While he was being arrested right so john guests. Who sold their house. Was it konya. No mookie. betts has bought a new house and it belongs to another celebrated los angeles. Sports figure really ideas. You're gonna love this. What city is it in. Encino really encino who know neighbor it is okay it is in this will make greg bergman very happen happy. I think it's gonna make you very happy chip. Kelly sold his house to mookie really. Yes now does that mean. Oh maybe that means that. The kelly regime is ending acid. Might that might be exactly it are ending ahead are eight and seventeen. National nightmare could be over. Yeah you guys were so excited. When ship came in well. Here's the thing that chip stor. Here's what i'll tell you. Yeah if they fire him. I seriously don't know who had rather have well. You'd rather have somebody that at least above five hundred and it doesn't go in and seventeen. But i mean i don't think they'll pay for urban meyer now. Jim harbaugh is now damaged. Goods might be available though. Who else is out there. This is the game where you take the young assistant and you run with it and you may be taken college. That's harder than it is in the nfl because in college you really what you gotta do is take a guy from a small school. That's that's over achieving. Who's the coach at indiana. That guy's going to get another job. He is yeah. What about the guy at western minnesota. I guess has already moved up. Yeah he's moved up. I i honestly think we'll look what the trojans have done with graham harrell. They brought in a young coordinator klay. Helton's they head coach but they brought any young coordinator Yeah and by. The way wasn't graham harrell. Didn't they give him that job. Kind of by default when cliff kingsbury backed out. No kingsbury was offense of success. They didn't weeks. Yep but i think that like i went to gram herald. I had be questions about graham harrell last game. Particularly what those calls on fourth down we're really un-imaginative and it's like you know. I hate to say we're just gonna lineup are big against your bigs and run it right into the middle. You know if the other team knows. It's coming that doesn't work and they did it three times. I think you've got to be more creative than that. Let but they got away. The good news is l- for seo fans like you. Yeah that they got away with it. Yes and if you get away with it then you can kinda survive in advance. And let's see how graham harrell adjusts this week. Yeah this week it's arizona this week for usa. And they're on the road in tucson so there in arizona. And i are they playing in that early. That weird early window. I don't know the answer to that. I don't know what time they're game time this week. Yeah i don't either. But they played in the nine am window this week which was really weird to have. A football game played at that time but chip kelly. Maybe that's it this weekend. Yup twelve thirty time prime time then. Is that like big noon. Saturday on fox. Yeah big news. Saturday was weird this week. Because they had to kneecap the pre-game somebody got covert. Oh really yeah. Yeah it's called. Goes all those guys. Were out rod stone and matt liner reggie bush urban meyer in also schedule out. Def definitely going around all right so john. What is your house smell like during the holidays kind of smells like which is weird because we bit like the last three or four hundred alive tree or victory fakery but she puts up live garland o so it smells like pine my house. My house smells like trees. I have a serious question. S you though okay. All right so you've made no secret of the fact that you are a fan of esca put a esca. We'd the big thing with what i remember about guys who smoked a lotta weeding college because the fraternity yup is. There room always smelled like that. It smelled like weed. Get that smell out of your house. Well i always i. Whenever i enjoy cannabis. I do it outside. I don't do it inside. So that's that's why. I don't think my house can really smell your own house. Yeah you know you become. What are they all that. In one of those you become used to knows knows blind. Yeah knows blind. You don't even know. I like you know they got them. Pine cones are rolled around and cinnamon like that kind of stuff and evergreen. We get a live tree. So you get the evergreen smell kentucky. Fried chicken has a different option. For a what is it. They have created a fire log k. That makes your house smell like chicken. Okay can i tell you. I don't hate that will come on. I'd like to smell of fried chicken. You walk in and the fire log is making your house. Smell like chicken. Who would actually by that. Fire log me what did you. Why wouldn't you just make fried chicken so over the weekend. One of our favourite neighbors moved out. They're moving out of the place where we live. She makes great fried chicken all the time and she made it over the weekend and the first thing i smell i walked in was the chicken. And it's pretty good. I might try this. Kfc thing is it available now. Fire law yet. Just go through the drive through at kfc. They can make your house smell like chicken. Wow really y'all know really exists. Then it must be a popular because as an avid yankee candle collector. I have my over three hundred fifty of them while they make more capable over five hundred fifty candles. When i moved out of my three bedroom house that i owned in ohio out here. I had to give away like two hundred of them and it was devastating. Like i had to really really like choosing between children which i see three hundred fifty candles. You have a lot of cans but anyway they may wait a minute. That sounds like an obsession obsession. I do have a candle accession. Although it's been kind of kneecap because out here in california the closest one is like an hour and a half from where i live. And i'm not driving like i've driven an hour and a half waiting by candles. Maybe twice here so have to buy them online. And there's always a limited selection online. So i'm really bummed about that anyway. By the way i never got the story i heard it in the chris morales a promo yesterday. But why do you own a crossbow. By the way as before she before she gets because we did this last week. And i'll let you answer. Lindsay bet mace. When the first thing you think of when you hear crossbow is what i think. Walking dead really see. I thought this was easy for you. I think tyrian killing his father while he was sitting on a good one. Yeah with a with a crossbow but lindsay. Why do you own crossbow. Because my my ex boyfriend who i dated in high school was big into hunting so we would go to georgia to visit a sister and he taught me how to hunt and then up in ohio to like hunting season. I think it starts like the day after thanksgiving. It's a big deal so we would go. We'd go hunting in ohio. We go hunting in georgia. I have a crossbow and compound. Oh no okay. So i know we have lindsey theory coming up and then we have games do a real quick hail fellow. Well man yes. Let's do a hail fellow well-meant okay. Did you see who passed away. today. I did tommy. Heinsohn tummy was mr celtic. Okay so as the lakers guy. I would naturally be inclined to dislike. Tommy i never did. I thought that he had a great spirit about him. I thought that every time one of the fun things michael a who knows. We'll get to do it anymore. But when we went back to boston for all the games was to give get a hard time and give a hard time to tommy heinsohn and cedric maxwell and the radio guys heinsohn in the eighties when magic when michael played in magic and kareem were there was the network analyst for him and dick stockton did the finals every year. And i remember somebody. A laker fan gave him a purple and green striped tie striped horizontally those half purple half green and heinsohn war for all the finals games because he wanted to remember to be impartial. And not just home it up for the celtics and he actually tried pretty hard. He was pretty much a homer. Though when he got to the celtics he completely became a homer but but he passed away today he he i mean he never took himself seriously he is just lose it on the air You know if the celtics are playing bad or if he thought the cells get screwed on a bad call he would just let the refs have up. And i'm gonna miss a man you know. He did games this year. Mace did he really. He did home games this year. How was he when he passed castaway today he was born in nineteen thirty four. So i'm trying to think. What does that make him. He lived into his eighties. And i eighty six right depending on what his birthday is. Yes in good for you. Know lived a grateful life. He's in the hall of fame but he was mr celtic but we like to say on the show. Hail fellow well met. Yeah you're gonna miss them. All right life well lived. It coming up next for you. The rams notebook with lindsay theory. I haven't talked to her since the What i call the dolphins debacle but they've got a really big game coming up this weekend with the seattle seahawks at five. So we'll get into that with with lindsay theory coming up next for you mason. Ireland seven ten. Espn so we're gonna do something weird here. George we cannot hear anything. Are we on the air. Okay is this thing on yes is loosely. Super lynch test tests. I'm surprised that we haven't had that happen more often. Yeah i know i know. Technology is seamless our technology team. We have technology team makes all this work including our executive vice president of the technology team. Adam brunstein yeah. Now we're going to try and bring lindsey theory into the program but this is all experimental at this point lindsay. Can you hear us. Can you hear me now. Yes yes. I lindsay late okay. So i'm going to start with a question that i want you to promise me. You will answer honestly okay. This is not going to be easy. I know it's not going to be hard. It's not anything that's like intended to embarrass you like. We normally do just this past weekend. The rams had a by. Did you watch any football. Be honest now. i didn't. I'm proud of you good for you. Yeah you know. Sometimes you guys you just gotta spent. I completely agree with you. I can get away from it. All so i i did not watch any football and that's okay right. That's okay not only is it okay. We're proud of you. It's going to be one weekend the entire year where you get to say that and by the way lindsay it has been revealed. And we'll talk to coach tomorrow but it has been revealed that over the bye week coach. Sean mcvay watched. This is us now. Linzie do you this. Do you watch this as us. You know what you guys. I watched it for like a season. And i had to quit. I i just wanna cry. I know exactly the same way. I watch one episode. I said if. I want to be depressed a live real life. It's just it's the most depressing thing ever of all the show and mcveigh is kind of like an upbeat positive dude. I'm surprised that unless his fiancee like roped into it. I'm surprised that's where he went. Yeah you know. He said he's a seon. say you know is the one who got him to watch it. So okay i'll buy that But again like there's a lot of ways to spend your by week. I'm not sure sitting on your couch crying. You don't have to completely agree which you think made him cry more. The dolphins game or this is us. As i knew you were going to go there. I had so many people reply with that on social media yesterday. When i tweeted about sean but in the week watching this like if he wanted to cry why newswatch dolphin tape and all i had to not re tweeted. He's using social media mean place. I'm not trying to pile on but come on. That was hilarious. Okay so yeah so lindsay. If you look at the standings right now the rams would be the seven the saints would be the one. But there's one game separating the rams and the saints the rams are right in the middle of this thing this schedule in general though for the rams gets harder in the second half correct absolutely. I the rams really are right in the thick of it. They're in good good position coming out of the by into week ten but really their schedule According to espn analytics is the fourth most difficult in the league. The remaining schedule You know the rim i to they got lucky but they had the nfc east start that the season and the nfc east is easily the worst division league so on one hand gave like the rams a nice kind of padding are nicer runway. I should say to kind of build up their defense trying to figure out who they are an offense but it also might have been a little bit of false false hope on the sense As they get ready for what really should be a pretty tough stretch of their schedule. I mean they've got the seahawks twice. They've got the cardinals twice. They go to tampa in fact. It's home to seattle this week. And then another cross country trip to tampa. I think this is their last one That they're gonna fly across the country you know. I'm amazed in surprised that the rams are actually in vegas one point favorites over seattle in this game on sunday are. Are you surprised. i'm not stunned at the rams. Have historically last several seasons. Been very good against the seahawks And especially against russell wilson who really hasn't played well against the rams during his career so I i'm not shocked by that. And other seahawks defense leaves a lot to be questioned. Especially they're passing defense. So that's gonna be something where they can take advantage of that Coming out of the by week having obviously seem the seahawks weakness close You know when they were playing in buffalo over the weekend. But i'm i'm not surprised that the rams are favourite here just because i think the way that the matchup has historically gone plus obviously passing game is a strength for the rams lindsay. The seahawks have two great receivers in tyler lockett and dj metcalf train. I don't know the answer to this. Oh this is what. I'm asking jalen ramsey. Assume he's gonna play is a lockdown corner when they go into jalen always line up on the same side of the field or are they more likely to assign him to like one receiver to lock that guy. What are they do with ramsey in a situation like this has been a little bit of everything actually this just in the past kilo lockdown one side of the field this season. They've really been using jalen. All they're calling it the star position but really that's just means he's been lining up as i inside kind of more of a slot corner at times. He's playing on the outside still at times they line them up like he's a linebacker so you can expect that he will be moved around just as they try and really kind of get him more involved Which is a little bit ironic. They right shutting down the field but they're just trying to get him in position to make some more plays So you can expect it. Obviously he'll be monitoring they'll be tracking their the seahawks top receivers. They're but they're really trying to get jalen action that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be shadowing their top receiver the whole time. You know lindsey theories with us zara. Rams be i've got a. I got a confession to make. Lengthy i i cheated on you. I read sports illustrated. And they said cam akers is going to play a more significant role in the second half of the season. What do you know about that. I believe it when i see it. I'm you know you're just saying cam. Akers came out of training camp. The starting running back. And obviously he hurt his ritz. He was out for a couple of games. We thought darrell henderson. Really come on You know malcolm brown has kind of played a steady role route You know. I think sean mcvay said that before. And here's one thing is after kind of covering it sean. Mcvay team over the last several seasons that a a pattern that's been developed. Is it if you kind of fall out of the authentic game plan Earlier with sean. It's really hard for you to get back in it. And i don't think that's an indictment on anything cam akers has or has done. It's just the fact that he wasn't available and in his absence. Darrell henderson malcolm. Crowded wealth So i think it's going to take a concerted effort for for sean to really get cam akers going again and He may do it very well. May do it. But i'm just not going to be terribly surprised if can still kind of just fighting to get some carries lizzie. Last thing for me if you look at that dolphins game the last game. The rams played really disappointing. Because when you look at the statistics you and i talked about it last week. The rams outgained them by three hundred and twenty six yards. They killed him on time of possession. They were just really sloppy with the ball. Four turnovers for jared goff. I'm curious who were like. Look mcvay took all the blame for it after the game like he always does but how much of that is on goth. I mean how much of that was this position. That coaches put him in. Which is what. Sean always always points to. And how much of. It was jared being careless. Look a lot of it was on the position. The coaches were putting jared zero pressure like. They're they're coming jerry. They were coming nonstop at. Jared guys had an empty backfield but some point like the coaches need to change that. You can't have an empty backfield if there's your pressure right but that's also a lot. I'm jared goff like you can't stand there and hold the ball. You know guys are coming on the hot row right hut. Rub your nose that's happening. I mean it happened over and over and over again. He has got to get rid of the football and at the very least if he knows he can't get rid of it he'd better hold onto it for dear life But so i really the blame. There's on sean. It's also very much on. Jared in the fifties and he's got to be aware of those guys are coming. They're coming up a lot So you've got to be so much faster with the ball there or at least make a better decision to get rid of it quickly. Like throw it away onto editing. You can take it down. You know last thing lindsey. I love pro football focus. I subscribe and it's really good stuff and it tells me stuff that i don't know And one of the things they wrote this week is that the rams have the fourth best defense according to their grades in the national football league. It's weird because they're facing a team. That has one of the worst defenses in the league on on sunday. Seattle really struggles on defense. Why do you think they their their defence is soft. Why do i think. I'm sorry you cut out there. I think. Seattle seattle's defenses so saw. It might be the worst eighty. I don't know because the thing is. They traded off seat to strengthen their defense and bring in some heavy hitter So definitely it's kind a little gut check moments where the crc to figure it out. They should it be soft there. They historically have been very very strong on defense So that that's kind of one of the big mysteries of what's going on in seattle right now all right. Well listen lindsey. I promise. I will not cheat on you again. I will own into your once. A cheater always take way. I've gotta let it go this time. I don't let it happen again. Okay will not happen again. I will not read any other writing about the rams only lindsay's hey lindsey thank you very much. We appreciate it as always. Thanks guys appreciate you. See there's lindsey thiry coming up next four years game of games in the meantime show. Shush is here for a look at what's happening on the roads. Once a guy cheats you never trust him again. Right absolutely correct. You said at once a cheater always achieved don't think people can be can be reformed from cheating probably definitive answer and it is time for game of games and game of games has been such a big deal john that we're sponsored now yes by power plumbing and heating plumbing heating and air powerful professional affordable to they are. It's in their name their my plumber. They wanna be yours to call them at eight hundred five eight four four one one six or visit power pro plumbing dot com all right. The game today is mine. In the month of november ireland has to lindsay as one. He has one momo and clinton each have. We'll see. I think we need to. I think we need to group in the fill in hosts to give them a fighting chance of the fill in hosts have to. They're actually tied for the lead. You're giving them too. Yeah more as one and clinton has won so they each have to now. Yeah no. they're day. That is one if i see. I see what you're saying so guest host to Has to okay got it. That makes sense All right here we go. This is Usc football over under you're familiar with this game. football season. You will have to go closest without going over on each of these. Okay matt barkley has the record for the most yards thrown for in a career at usc. How many yards did barkley throw for. At usc ireland your. I doubt discount like is it. Are we saying for like one season no yardage in a career so in the total amount of yard said he threw four yup. He started all four years. I'll say ten thousand ten thousand lindsay Say thirteen thousand thirteen thousand and ninety five hundred lower ninety five hundred and our winner is lindsay. You went just over john. Ireland is on the board south of the answer is twelve hundred twelve thousand three hundred twenty seven yard john. You guessed ten thousand so you're up one. Nothing okay number. Two marcus allen holds the single season rushing record. How many yards did marcus allen. Run for in one thousand nine hundred eighty one lindsay Thirteen hundred thirteen hundred. That's the same guest you had the last time for sticking it eventually. That's going to be right or hey eleven hundred. Eleven hundred and john all right. So it's just rushing yards for that one season for one season yes and lindsay was the highest one at thirteen hundred. Yeah all right well give her a fighting chance and she gave me one all say one hundred john ireland the point again. The answer is twenty four hundred and twenty seven yards. that's what marcus allen. Ran for nineteen eighty-one. All right dwayne. Jarrett holds the usc career record for most receiving touchdowns receiving touchdowns in a career. How many touchdowns did wayne jared catch in his trojans career we start with he say five hundred. I just wanna be cleared. The dwayne jarrett had five hundred touchdown in his career. That is remarkable. I john trying to remember if he played as a freshman no you or if he played as a senior might left too early. I'm going to say thirty. Five thirty five lindsay own. I guess thirty lindsay guess strong. The answer is forty-seven john once again takes the point forty. He got forty seven touchdowns yet his career one yet as it is huge. How john is up three to nothing over everybody. Oh i like it. Marquees lee holds the record for most receiving yards in a single game receiving yards in a single game. How many yards did marquees lee receive for receive against arizona in two thousand twelve so this is receiving yards in a single game. John two thousand twelve getting single game. I'll say to fifty to fifty lindsay. I'll guess one ninety. Nine one nine nine bob and hori three hundred three hundred and the career and jorges steals the point. Yes the answer is three hundred and forty five. He had three hundred forty five receiving yards in that game. I really underestimating these guys. You are you really going low although yeah as the one so it's three for ireland one for four. Hey nothing for lindsay. You may see mean. Danger didn't catch. Five hundred touchdown passes fell short of that by about three hundred and fifty last year. Keaton slow this through for single game yardage record for usc against ucla. How many yards did slow throw four against ucla last year. Lindsay kim fifty to fifty. I really questioned whether you understand the game or college. Say three twenty five three twenty five all right. I may burn myself here. But i'm pretty sure i should get three twenty six. But i'm not going to do that. I'm pretty sure cadence. Lewis is the only quarterback to ever throw for five hundred yards in a game at usc. So i'm going five hundred on the dot. The answer is five fifteen john. Ireland takes the pointed as ireland. Four whore hey one lindsay. Nothing one more here because it's okay. Listen you're going for the curtis. Yeah you're play closest without going over. How many total games has the university of southern california one all total of all time. So how many total games has usc one football games in. Its history going back to eighteen hundred and something. Eighteen eighty eight so john. You're you're winning so since eighteen eighty eight. that's one hundred twelve plus twenty one hundred and thirty two games. If they average ten wins a year. What's one thirty two times. Twenty maes you're good at math. Let me just do a quick one. Six hundred forty. Are you serious okay. That's what i'm guessing african style. Forty one lindsay. I'm gonna guess. Eight hundred eight hundred and fifteen hundred fifteen hundred lindsay salvages. Her got off the curtis. Yep eight hundred and thirty nine career. Victories football victories for the university of southern california. So not as high as you thought john not even close john. Ireland now has three wins and love of november and whore. Hey by the way. I just want to point. This out believes dwayne jarrett. Five hundred touchdown passes in his career. That would make him. The greatest college football player in the history of the world join played three or four years at. Usc played about forty games. So what you're saying. Is he caught fifteen a game in the w good. I'm not justifying. But i'm taking over here. That is a career that is a real career right there right there. You have it there. Game of games brought to you by power pro plumbing and coming up next for you. We're gonna do some cross talk with george and l. z. Mason ireland seventeen. Espn dettori time. and morales. has less something off of his fastball. Today guys so beware when you hear him on your show. he's he's sort of. I think he's overworked. Because he's making some mistakes it happens. It happens so all of these gets up at like two in the to get ready for the keyshawn show. Yeah i don't understand that. So he gets up in the morning. He talks to keyshawn at two o'clock in the morning. Yeah and harvey suspect by the way that that right. There is suspect. Talk to in the morning. What are you guys talking about. Yeah how does keyshawn function because you worked with in. You both worked with them in the mornings. How does he function in morning. Times is he guided just rolls in two minutes before the show and says oh no i i really i went in. I went in. But he's also i one out correct. It's not i one in last one out newnan in this is first one and i went out. That'd be like peace. i'm out here so Listening to caspian los angeles. It was sitting there. So we've been talking a lot about the tony larussa thing today. Tony larussa apparently had a dui earlier this year and the white sox hired him anyway and now does become public can win. Tony larussa got arrested. He said you know. I'm a hall of fame guy. I i am a world series. Baseball guy said something like that. Don't know who i now. What should the white sox do with tony larussa what. They should do what. They're gonna do what they should. I know what they're gonna do. But what should they do. They should i mean. They claim that they they knew about this though. The timing doesn't add up either according to passan's reporting yes But what they should do is they should at least spend you know what i'm saying before starts i think at the very least why because if that's sweat would happen with that would happen with the player right exactly. What would have with player at it by the way it doesn't if it doesn't line up that they knew and they're lying just to cover it up that makes it worse that he didn't disclose it during a job interview right right but what. There's a legal system to deal with. What tony larussa did in his vehicle. What does that have to do in managing the white john. You if you don't get a dui that seven ten espn in the lakers. If john got before he was higher than his john's business if they made a decision to do it happened before he was hired. That's john's personal business. I think is tony's personal business that he got a dui. I think he's still trash. But i don't think he should be punished for something happened when he wasn't even an employer last the white sox are just saying they knew because they're embarrassed that they didn't do harrap they should be embarrassed. They hire tony. Laruso in two thousand twenty where embarrassments should be aside. They should be embarrassed that they hired do. Think that look. I know plenty of not plenty but i know people that have gotten a dui. And i'm not saying. I'm not condoning it. That's not what i'm saying. But i can see one time you make that mistake. This isn't the only time. Does this happen to tony. Larussa by the way right. No he's a drunk. I mean right now trying to be cruel but if it happens this often in this capacity right this is what it is one time you could say to yourself. Wow that was a terrible mistake. Thankfully nothing happened nothing happened. Nobody got hurt right but if this is now a repeated thing with him well let me be clear about. I don't think tony larussa should ever drive again. I think you should have his license taken away forever. You can use coupons or get a driver. But i don't think it has anything to do with him. Managing the white sox i wouldn't suspend him or find him when you're in a job interview they ask you. Have you been You know they ask you about your criminal record right. And then i say you ask me again a corner where i'm getting jesse jackson. Sharpton we marched up and down this hallway. Rosie you and i are lockstep on this. I i don't. I don't see how one connects to fire. Just flat out fire. Why would i would fire him for endangering a lot of people while driving while under the influence right. But that doesn't mean anything to do with whether or not he can lead the white sox world series or how tony you can stand up in front of a bunch of guys and say. Hey here's how we conduct. Hey here's life. Here's here's here's the way this is gonna work in this team and this locker room you once. You've been so reckless. He's not that guy anyway. That's the trash higher. He's disconnected from the generation of today's players. His sensibilities don't line with today's players nor where we are as a culture and while. I appreciate all the hard work. He's done his career and all the great things. He's done for several franchises. Including the st louis cardinals. What you can't suggest is that he's going to be a leader of men because they're not gonna willing to follow him in that capacity they'll follow him as a manager but as a leader of a man and character stuff. No they're not gonna follow him right on a much lighter note. How do you guys got. Everything is lighter than that. You see the tweet that espn los angeles. Just put out about our show. No okay read it. Go real quick. Because i know that you know you you. You're on the computer i am. I'm always on the computer. yes go to. Espn los angeles twitter account and read what they tweeted thirty one minutes ago about what we've got coming up all the way through the words. Greg bergman okay continue. Your tuesday was sodano. And l z granderson. How will tell kouzmines potential contract. Look like rams versus. Nfc west five fifteen mark sheriff. Six thirty brian windhorst. Maybe amino hassen if he responds to greg burt. Oh if he responds to greg bergman right right. He has not responded to greg bergman in hours and it's just like you guys know this you worked with gregg. Nobody response to his tag well. This is a direct byproduct of bourbon being a no guests. No calls producer for ten years right now all of a sudden when he needs to go to the whip. He's producing a show where you guys are insisting on guests and he can't go he doesn't have that club in his bag. Well well it's funny. So guess. Who got marks. Larry than brian. Windhorst on the show. You would be you right. Yeah exactly dave roberts on the show last week. L. z l. Yeah yeah yeah. So you're booking your own show pretty much. Yeah i mean who is like basically who is born of the family around here. Yes responded bergman. That's amazing that's amazing. Well that's because that whole mint chocolate thing chocolate thing. He likes chocolate. That what's what's wrong with mint chocolate ari. Here we are again. We are again us. Minorities don't like mint chocolate. For the most part there are some outliers But this is. I think this look in a in an era where we are divided amongst many things. I clearly see now. We are also divided culturally by the love or disdain of mint chocolate. I don't understand what mint chocolate has to do with being white because most of the people we did our own straw poll and most of the people who actually like it or white and the people who are not white that science. Mace got science. We did a poll. We know we absolutely did a did a poll on the air with callers. We did a poll on twitter. And that was what our findings says so black guys. Don't eat doc. I don't eat like thin mints where we don't like generally speaking because i can't speak for all of us. Yes qb little wayne taught me that What i will say is that what we don't like is the flavor of toothpaste and dessert. I interesting fair. Yeah i guess. I guess i'm okay with minton chocolate. I'm okay with george floyd ask you. What's coming up on the show but now now. I know that you're going to have any. You can book and literally no one else right right or else he can book and by the way and i wanna point out sometime in the five o'clock hour. Oh you guys are going to open the phones and somebody heard the destination in the three o'clock hour. Got a chance to win that brand-new mazda. Cx five sport with a thousand bucks cash in the glovebox from culver city mazda. Sometime in the five o'clock hour they got a chance to win. Right with our buddy sal gonzales. Thanks to him you know. Us's we are out of here coming up next for you. We are told you everything that got coming up. It sounds like a hell of a show me. I got to rush out to the whole. Wait to see if a mean gets on. I think that's the one thing we need to figure out we'll mean actually answer bergman's text.

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ALCS Juggernauts, Cardinals' Offensive Woes, Tony La Russa/Matt Spiegel Interviews

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ALCS Juggernauts, Cardinals' Offensive Woes, Tony La Russa/Matt Spiegel Interviews

"The following is a presentation of radio DOT COM sports seemed to have had the advantage the edge at home are they love their ballpark Judge in for that right field obviously they've got some his yankees theory is probably a good place to start two hundred ten combined regular season wins between these teams it dawns me if we get this podcast dot a New York team against the Houston Astros with your team just trying to avoid that guy so knowing that coal is slated for game salmon is kind of the it's been a total of nine games between the two teams this year to in the postseason as we take seven in the regular season home team has only lost one of those nine one picture that it's like oh no we're not going to touch this guy and I know Mike Scott and Garrett Cole or two very differently wired people with different skill sets but here it is again it gives them an edge and we saw a game too that they kept a close there and I just think Anki lineup is a little bit higher right now overall in I think the Yankees have a good shot at this even know people are saying Houston's the favorite every minds league strangely Jonah of a series it Kinda dates both of us the six in order for absolutely and it's interesting you mentioned that was among the most wins the two teams combined in any series that ninety eight the best baseball voices around once you know where to get it we remind you to listen over the three three hundred stations or eleven hundred podcasts provided by radio left sluggers as well and you know I think the advantage you know believe it or not I know that people are picking use because of the Colon burland and they've already one verleger game but along with John Heyman we are the guys bringing his broadcast every week bring you some pretty decent interviews I think Tony Larussa is going to join us today and promises to be series was very different though with the Yankees one hundred fourteen games padres ninety eight the Yankees were a huge favourite and swept we expected Yankees and Houston here and not talk about vantage cereal insight here surges but every week we're bringing you inside the top scorer lines across major league baseball or episodes including a chat with us and this is the kind of series where the ANC has to be decided by three hundred four point homerun at either ballpark and there are players on these teams world series was a New York team against the Houston Astros and it was basically a race to avoid happen if they spike Scott again is what it came down to because that'd be your team they had to close and so far it is one to one so we shall see how it goes from here but you you're absolutely right the home field is a big advantage a yankees dot communist floored by location or find whatever you want so with that St John Let's get my do it. Obviously the Goliath versus Goliath used in Earth one mass beagle from Chicago will take us through the cubs managerial surgeon. Obviously Jonah Amy by now well enough to know we're not gonNA do segment I think the Yankees starting pitching is pretty good and not maybe not as good as cold the best on the planet in from maybe the second best but then relief pitching thing about psychology. Here's the light okay we either win this in six or we're in big trouble is at the Yankee thought well right now cozy beds pitch games and you're absolutely right about coal incredible I thought this is maybe like the two thousand nine world series where would avoid cliff Lee and quickly here because they didn't really have their whole team for basically the whole year I mean and now Stanton is GonNa is questionable and we a Yankees twice the Yankees won all the other games but now the Yankees have lost her lander and certainly the Houston having to great pitchers is a huge plus it just is the best team going between the starting pitching and the lineup and everything else that you you count for but the Yankees I think might be a little bit underrated landed and he doesn't scuff the ball does of the jet I think he just changed the way he did it you know and Pittsburgh he was pitching a contact was kind of a ground ball pitcher to some degree in he's just a gun with his strength and Houston they've done a great job with him it's only gonNA help this free agency and we'll talk about I'm with you they got to try to avoid that game raiders and I was out in La and I did not see that game in person that are serious fantastic obviously go down lower as one of the greatest World Series House or th- Western had no desire join this fraternity really until the game got good and everybody in that house and it was like a house divided half read not like they were a hitting juggernaut the astros or Yankees to begin with but my goodness I mean the nationals they've got mo jo now and it wasn't just that game six yeah I was out in California and I know eighty seven was my first year covering the angel so no I I actually was covering the in doolittle and Hudson and was going to be enough and a lot of people question it but their starters are so good and right now the short bullpen but it seems like this postseason one of the themes of it is were swinging back to starting pitching as being a key determining factor rather than bullpen a minute after the ball went through a place for that reason so the other series John The cardinals obviously ace and he stifled them. Obviously we know the nets have three excellent pitchers he's were fourth starter you know the nets the Russa was there and then and now shelter did a nice job with an upset in the first round I mean Saint Louis State they can be tough let's see him but they've got everybody else so you know I think the Yankees have a good shot at this with the with the home field advantage that three three other next pitching all over and they did well too but you know I the nats problem was going to be that they basically had to relievers that they could trust staying although they bite but they put him in a position it certainly was unenviable that it to put kindly and the Halley Kendrick walk off you know I mean I I don't know by the way since we bought a baby six not for nothing with where were you working yet on actual major league baseball coverage and doing that series where where he it'd been going the other way for a while but we have the nets very strong starting pitching and Houston very strong starting pitching and I mean the razors for that ball park I mean I don't know if I've ever seen anything like that yeah I mean at Saint Louis obviously in trouble now and they're just not a great breaking ball hitting team in Anibal Sanchez the relief crew then for the Nansen and beat them Saint Louis is full of surprises particularly in October. And we're GonNa Talk Tony Larussa later but it was seven if you're if you're the Yankees you gotta try to finish that out in the bronx with three in a row I know that's a tall order playing Houston one paper I think many woods in phantasm shape Saint Louis tough team to put away though I mean they've been a bugaboo for the nets forever I was there in two thousand twelve when they were down six nothing came back on store you know just beer flying around people throwing their shirts that each other shoes and I got so swept up by pledge of fraternity that night like literally all other remarkable things that happened in between the last podcast podcast maybe it's not remarkable kershaw continues to struggle but that's definitely million to hit that home run against his former team I mean that's a highlight of a career and deservedly so because he has a real pro in terms of some of the other things that we had Mike Rizzo on a few podcasts ago and he's been very good at free agency and that is one of the great under the radar free agent moves probably ever two years seven what's gets in the mets and the fever pitch the swelled in what we call the Tube Room when you bought the TV Tube Than Live had the drum beat on necessarily like oh everybody gets Howie Kendrick everybody sleeps on how he Kendrick that'll be disingenuous to say that but I always thought this was I can say that and so you know the fact that he was the hero I don't know I mean I wasn't completely surprised by no he's a great hitter of professional hitter on Yeah I mean the discussion of the day Roberts is managing status I thought was ridiculous I the guys have been tastic manner underrated Guy John I mean he's got a three twenty five batting average over the last three years that's the highest batting average in the major leagues anybody with a thousand late of yours I mean nobody get the most out of his players had eight rookies come up they all did great at the main thing for a manager these days is really to get your players to play to their potential handsome guy who has been your closer for years I thought that was very odd but as I say one move to moves that you could criticize the at this stage it's grown I remember him when he was in Miami throw ninety miles an hour right now he's basically all breaking balls and changeups and that's the worst guy for the cardinals to have him decide after five innings I want another inning and then he throws up in on a Kunia and then comes to the plate I thought that was a a needless what's Max Scherzer but from out of nowhere it's remember Anabol- Sanchez in those first two games explained the cone of silence is dropped down from the arch on top ever I'll give you my quick story on that anybody cares but it was the night in my eight zero nine of my eighteenth birthday they don't forget stuff like that and I was watching a fraternity run you know maybe it would have taken some major courage big stones whatever you WanNa call it to take flaherty out but I wouldn't have had bid six there may not have been the right move some disagree with that but then certainly did not go with Kenley Jansen I'm sure they talked it over the front office so we don't know exactly who to point the finger ah I personally would not have gone with Kershaw even in the middle of the end he got out of that but obviously he's had his postseason struggles I think the put the pressure on him right out there would've given me an offer so that's ridiculous another managerial thing that I thought was interesting and we touched on flaherty coming big in and he was one of six hundred fifty six that's certainly should weigh more heavily than two and three I know people who are in La are upset and certainly a left some room to criticize there is it because we got him coming up next Saentis Benz a class presenting big time baseball from radio DOT COM sports I we are so excited whatever that should not come to the forefront and and supersede a terrific major league if Dave Roberts had been let go every team here but Tony you went out on top in twenty eleven in I think one of the more fascinating world series ever seen it I was just looking at that look like they're in trouble now but they can be this amazing they had a ten run inning to basically put themselves in this position and then everything stopped it's really remarkable this morning remembering how for example back to back games cardinals in Texas you guys scored sixteen runs tonight zero the next on Derek you have the games where they're really tight and you're looking for ways to score and a lot of times especially against the better pitchers of the the unanimous so incredible career by you What what and obviously managed a long long time I wanted to ask you about some of the changes now I'm Tony Larussa on with US longtime manager current Red Sox front office executive talking about the postseason and maybe even into some of the managerial upheaval which is all around us Headbutt to go with Joe Kelly for two innings a guy who had really spotty first year in La and had some arm trouble in September over Kelly the opportunity is always more opportunity for retaliation and has it at ninety nine point nine percent you're gonna WanNa stay tuned for Tony which game so far this offseason Hey Tonia John Hayman here and I don't WanNa be remiss in not state your record here three World Series Championship six all into a hitter things can just go up and down so crazily in October Kantha or they sure can and normally in you see your in your that means an injury and I give them credit for not retaliating throwing it flaherty I thought that was an opportunity that they gave him there and twenty twenty ex-con around the corner are are are not nearly as as often as the ones where teams tober usually have enough pitching his shut great offenses down so risk that didn't need to be undertaken I understand him wanting to come to the plate after doing that s you I'm the man drums saying no no you're not come get us next year whenever we don't terms of the managing and the input that the front offices have when when you managed it did anybody ever tell you what the lineup should be or give you hints and there's an not-so-subtle plus to that you know it's leadership in having guys follower has to do with respect and trust in the first inning once you're up thirteen to one certainly that game is over I mean I don't have to look at Fan Chris not coming back Atlanta was done and I would have taken them out and I certainly wouldn't winnings 'cause you certainly need them in the lcs and I know he's young guy strong innings thing is seem to be bothering him like some other younger guys but what you have ten there how was it and how is it now do you think since you're involved I mean obviously Arizona you had a big Job Boston same thing you think this is a good albuquerque's a great example this all season I miss is this postseason the the games were there are a lot of runs scored we were talking about we as our coaches staff and myself we were very fortunate in Chicago Com Saint Louis that ownership and the front office radio easier thing to do is just to get a lousy rallies started with a single or walk in and try to get him around and score rather than the hero complex so a lot of wealth ah we work together but in the end the healthy thing is to give your your guys at uniform the ability to make in game decisions World Series Two thousand seven hundred twenty wins third all time a first ballot whole fame I don't because I out it was a first ballot and I think in baseball today and it's trying to find the right mix I think if you look quickly at the background you know surgeon making and then how you transmit it than what you expect from the guys in uniform and I think in many cases but to me the game today are the mix is gotta be the proper balance between all the information that's available to the front office friend that there's more involvement from the front office and what was it like for you did you did you have any at all or you just write your own lineup John s that's the hot button issue is where the first years of this have been there's been a little bit overwhelming the people downstairs a certain disrespect for what you believed in the value of the coaching staff and there are day to day experiences and opinions and the ability to just based on the game so right now in October and I know people listening to this week while we're taping it they'll look back and say maybe we don't know what we're talking about I'm watching the cardinals right now the hidden white sox team that all of a sudden other than rudy law you get into the L. C. S. thank you guys that like to eleven against Orioles pitching that was just top flight at them the if you're struggling offensively should push you're better off being aggressive offensively wouldn't doubt I think maybe a lot I'm not sure what he's GonNa do this lineup leading the ability of your your managers coaches to lead those guys in tough times Tony Larussa visiting with us and I won't ask you Tony Real quick just about what we're seeing out of a meeting with your hitters or just how does that go for you at that point probably all all the above Josh a main point so if you're mike shown right now and as we're recording this you know the cartels are starting to hitting at all what do you do I mean did you shake things up derided where outstanding pitching shut him down and pitching Sanchez did muna ball round changing speeds and then the all the plus stop electric stuff that serves her and if most of the time the common sense thing is that the respect goes to the decision makers so if the guy's stairs are writing the scripts all you're doing is under browsing that's really important is every game that you play learn something especially with the intensity of the post season and so you know they've gone through two games is opportunities since we have you now and there are eight managerial openings just few too I mean we know you're with Boston with Arizona but you follow the entire league our time we had a lot of communication with front office and ownership I mean we are always held accountable though what you do is you know you explain what we were doing yeah I know it's still near and dear to you and it reminds me a little bit of where you came in is a postseason manager in eighty three you had this you know hairy big so what we had the debt to get that earned that credit in that respect you know we really thrive on information through vacuum we're we're really plunging every bit information get that's why I think we've been very comfortable in a with all the extra weapons that you have as far as preparing has I mean and now they face Strasbourg so I think you know you can expect the most gains is going to be tough to put rallies together Israel opening the would you favor experience and who who do you like you've seen managing the last couple of decades as a great question I appreciate your comments to John but manager over the past fifty years or so and you obviously went in the hall of fame with Joe Torry Bobby Cox and cases could be made for others but I I wanna take it's you gotta read what's happening sometimes like the Yankees the twins are runs scored by the Yankees now you're going against Houston the second game was as you've retired a few years several years ago what managers who you've seen over the last several years do you think really got it in a real Oh base I think Mike is Shield's good obvious stolen so basis just can't get anybody on but I I think the mistake that you make sometimes is not understand Tuck do big thing so if your offense is struggling what you try to do sometimes you just gotTa push you gotta try manufacture it really to the extent that they get guys if you see something in a young guy I think the number one quality is leadership and that's what we talked about earlier and you've got to be able to invest your management the opportunity to close to winning and are expected to win so I I just think it you know you have to look at the individuals that you're that you're looking at you know there's nothing wrong with our young like social wants to manage again you know dusty has has a great track record a guy who I don't think it's enough credit is the really really good managers may be underrated and what do you think of this trend I know you were hired very young you had an unusual background having a law degree I don't think it's disrespectful fowler can move down the line of you just give it a little different looking and and you know just show that you're thinking about the different but I I really just argus disrespect as much as not really knowing how dynamic it is down there in a game in a series you know literally any to enter in our the openings now summer it seems like the trend may be swinging back and we're looking at some of the experience guys as well but what do you think if you if you had motivated move guys in the direction that you want so what's leadership qualities of of a young guy you're looking at the fact that he hasn't pulled the trigger is a negative the respect and the trust of his players so they come out they play really hard for himself I just think as an organization you that'd be careful so if you have a bench coach like Alex Cora last year of is a really gifted guy but he had Rodman if those tough times ron is really a sharp experience the manager Bob Melvin you know Bob deals with a lot of informational upstairs but he finds a way to distill it and he and he and he earned you know now we have some saying that inexperienced who's better summer saying let's go for experience how would you look at Hey tony real quick before you go and we've only got you for another minute or two but you know not only thirty three year managerial career people forget sometimes you did play in the became somewhat of a controversy and you know I kinda got it I think the Veterans Committee should have its own way of looking at things it's going to be different as I think you got it would've been a great manager in the end yellow frustrated just became the greatest pitcher greatest pitching coach ever and it's interesting that he was a catcher a not a pitcher but fantastic career I think now Houston branch drama is making a case he's going to have lawyer background came in handy because you had a debate with several people on broadcasts podcasts such as this on Harrow Baynes when get get in the whole thing here on score you just have to keep reading being flexible in all you manage Tony I would look at your record even if I don't look at your record I would say you're the best I think it's it's it's very hairy I mean a number of openings and actually you know there are some clubs that are struggling which is I usually get a job demands but there are clubs thanks for six years to all that time that you spent around bigly players is there a guy that you can think of that never managed that you're shocked never managed roll downstairs and you really need to have somebody you can work with not just to work for us he told me I would agree with you on Dave Dunkin being the Baynes had a fantastic career incredible hitter clutch guy played for I don't know who's the twenty four years surly very famous his I got it doing a little bit longer Dunkin obviously was your guy for a long long time and really fantastic I want to ask you about another day you went back to the white sox with the writers who are maybe looking at analytics a little bit more something like that I mean Harold Baines had a fantastic career I know you're you're if he's young and you see some really good qualities there's nothing wrong guy but I think some teran's they're showing that they wanNA manage the more I'm all in for them as well seems like probably my biggest concern now is that it's something that I mentioned earlier where owners front office guys are looking for people that can baseball man but I look at I look at some of the veterans now they're getting their names up there at at at a high opinion of guys like like buck you know back from the guys that are with the with the cardinals possible Lanka always thought had you know a real good smart way to play and yet away of connect you with with players you're not GonNa have a club the response to the manager and they're not going to be able to adjust to the game too you know dynamics but at the same time either got you played with or played against managed against where you're thinking why did that guy never become a manager well that's a great question please make that the last time we are referred by playing coach of all time is Dave Duncan dunk at all the quality so I think it's a it's a unique responsibility and with the hiring a guy that shoe can control and the guy is really just a functionary for he's down there is taking the information because that's not gonNa Work Radio DOT COM presents big time baseball's brought to you by the twenty nine dollars as Ben's Hey class we appreciate that very much this is Josh Lewin alert game back in in Chicago early days Mike squires was a fire that he actually went go to allow them to scatter for a long time I thought he could whole thing with Harold Baines and I thought it was great when he did his speech and I didn't know he could do a speech but good for him and I have no problem with it but other people did in I'm sure you're aware of that didn't vote for him I did vote for Lee Smith but just an and I don't mind that the the Veterans Committee gets it say because I think we overlook some people 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S. dot com slash swings I we continue big time the two biggest criteria is if you look at the at the generation of the player the pitcher and you look at the guys great stat game winning run walked off thank you so much my friend continued success G. at Boston okay guys thanks coversation thanks very cool dozens of themselves with licensed physicians and FDA approved products to help you grow your hair for hymns connects you real doctors online get the hair loss treatment everybody Tony Larussa with us we got more coming up big time baseball right here hey everybody cody decker here from swings and misses the radio dot Com sports original here talk to you about four hymns dot com for him dot com is your one stop shop for hair loss skin Karen sexual wellness for men sixty six percent of men lose their hair aged thirty five and you know what I'm thirty two and I've been taking him for three weeks now baseball did everything I could to take my hairline away from me whether it was just wearing a helmet wearing a hat or my managers Word Hall of Famers in that Time Odyssey rank and secondly if you if you see that he's comparable was his l. wars are nice nice metric but there's a heck of a lot more to picking a hall of Famer than just you know some mathematical formula layer and this is something that I would challenge anybody with the Hall of Famers that I've talked to over the many years you know bunch of them in Saint Louis before that downstairs one of my biggest Javanese long enough and that's why we had twenty district categories were herald was among in front of and behind happy today with the information that's provided Dave Doug van was that was a pioneer in creating a lot of strategies that we used in any he's got a general manager to help hire in in Boston so tony I will never bring up your career again even though you scored that very last game major league game which I think is Gago people what well there there is stuff happening with the mostly two cups has some white sox that stuff maybe we'll get into maybe not mostly cubs here because of the departure and he was a teammate I was pushing for but I have my responsibility to hall of fame and that kind of set me but I tried to make one of the Dave Duncan and he's he's the answer I think a lot of issues to get when we talk about what of Joe Matt and we've already talked about it a little bit met in eighteen I'm just curious because you've got to be on the ground in Chicago what do you think them from a starting in his video work and all this stuff a lot of metrics actually correspond and and our together with issue his Abi Strategies that we developed and dunk was at the at the forefront of a Lotta pitchers in an organization using the day is Donald couple of weeks up his fifth year the infiltrate the group so they're ready for a different kind of voice a different kind of leader somebody with with that tool in was a lame duck season that he amped up to get more involved and he did but it's really not his normal mo so it wasn't really until the final couple of weeks when he said thing like I'm going to try this up I just infiltrated the group that was the phrase that he used he and it took a long time it took until the the backed up by you legitimate formulas and not just his hard work which we have more time with Tony Larussa always great stop it's definitely an overall failure of each from the front office that wanted to build a dynasty here in this in this off season they've got the wherewithal baseball here in a postseason month we're happy to be joined by Matt Spiegel said seventy the score and understand wait a minute oppose season we're we're going on a talk with lint calm gear with which he manages a baseball team and last year in the off season of Theo Jed demanded of joe going into what with that but also with Joe and I think most of the fans have come to realize that Joe Madden has on very stable it's going to happen in terms of the replacement and what were the fan all reactions on the score it was announced that Joe is going well when it was time to whether they were going to bring jobs back you had a lot of people jumping to each poll of the conversation this is this for Theo Epstein's issues in the front office disasters just him which certainly meant him and we did but some of the players to and obviously they have a very story nucleus that helped them win that world a year and while we know that's a stat of opportunity in modern baseball it's still has exposed you know several several Z. and the truth is the Bryant set a really terrible final couple of months of the season and the RBI numbers have been down the past are capable of more than if given over the last couple of years. Hey Matt I want to get a little bit into who who might replace him at some point but you know when they when they met with Joe Madden in a toolbox if you will and that doesn't mean a screamer or yeller juice mean somebody to be more hands on and try to get the most out of out of their guys that they believe are rarest I mean who could be on the block what could they do here to shake it up a little bit if anything it may be that was just a thought at the time and they they will keep he's he's GonNa get as much money as anybody will possibly get and he and Scott Boras been steadfast about seeing it through to free agent and then you gotta deal not for prospects right but for young affordable very good players right now with a guy to get the most I think that's the one you get the most value for if you're looking to to jump start this mix and give yourself two more years of viable championship contention there is a cloud of regret but it doesn't fully rain in terms of Kleber Josh because they want to title and even though Chapman was problematic in the world series I don't think they win the Tytler War Joe is responsible for the complacent and kind of lifeless way this team has played the last Tuesday of the truth ends up somewhere in the middle offseason that they told him flat out that there could be big changes probably would be big changes if the team that has constructed didn't win and I think he took it to mean station but those guys you'll get nothing pretty much for those guys even though Nice Timber and finished his player of the week and Carl Hooper finally over the second half John if there are other guys had worked out well enough to be trade bates like Amora Ian Hap and Addison Russell at this point that may rooting and really that there's more in him and it just started to show it so I think Bryant is the one they might have to so really look at it and say in two years Taller famers and he went pointing reader so I think you nowadays are at it's peril got criticized wore number was doubt situations in games in series stretches were Bryant has not been a guy to come up with with big hits big moments so I this past year start to show the more hit than just slug and you know look there's still a chance that they deal Schwartzberg that's the guy as you know they've been in love with series break that hundred eight year streak but what do you think ATM Assuming Rizzo is going to stay and bias is GonNa save but what should should I assume anything could bryant or Stewart announced back Ian Stewart because they didn't like Lemay his profile he didn't fit the slug that they wanted to populate their lineup with and we spent labor and and Chapman You know they they broke one hundred years street so I I consider that one of the great traits of all time because it served both teams interest oh him into a trade there's been a lot of bad self routing and it's not something we thought we were going to see from Jed Hoyer Jason McLeod Group but it's been there August is Labor Torres and all his chaplain came the other way as a rental then he obviously did some good things but is there Canada's cloud of regret Ross is considered the favourite he wants it people think it's

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Tony La Russa on the Home Run Chase | 6

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Tony La Russa on the Home Run Chase | 6

"From wondering I'm Dan Rubin steamed themed and this is sports wars over the course of the series. We've outlined the stories and rivalry of Mark mcgwire and Sammy Sosas explosive record breaking nineteen ninety eight season the the aftermath of this historic year has obviously been filled with controversy but it doesn't make their historic run any less fascinating just one with more context and Dan well testosterone today. I'm joined by Tony Larussa manager of Mark Maguire with both the Oakland A.'s and Saint Louis Cardinals which obviously includes. It's that wild nineteen ninety eight season. I mean I could feel the vibes from his brain where he was just really tuned in and then go to bed to me. The most impressive or of what mark accomplish was he ability absolutely tune every distraction out and just concentrate on see the ball hit. We'll talk about out Maguire's career leading up to that point what it was like to manage the cardinals throughout that craziness and how he now looks back on the full scope of what happened during both that here and that era in Major League baseball even people at the top of their game know what it's like to choke under pressure I mean I think the tiny alien microbes living hang on Mars heard about John McEnroe's temper Tantrum at the French Open in eighty four but if there's one place you really WanNa keep it together and perform well every time time it's the most intimate of places the bedroom for both clean audio and accuracy sake. I'm recording this in a hotel room underneath the sheets. It's literally right now. Yeah that's true. The great news is you can be confident every time it's time for sex. Thanks to blue DOT COM blue. Dot Com has the first ever chewable that brings your performance in the bedroom to another level. 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Oh come on long longtime Major League Baseball manager he has every award we have a World Series Award winning manager and who better to give us insight into into what went into not just Mark Maguire not just a home run chase but really the era of baseball and the modern era of Baseball Tony Larussa. Thank you very much for giving us your time they. I'm looking forward to it. What do you remember about the the state of baseball in the years following the nineteen ninety four strike. What do you think nineteen ninety eight and a home run chase played in bringing popularity back to the game. I think it really was a tremendous this boost of energy you know baseball and and it's fanatics have a you know it's a deep passion deep love and so they have a a forgiving giving side so the strike of ninety four hit hard and there was no doubt in ninety five that you could feel the disappointment frustration anger of some fans there towards you season. It got a little better ninety six than a little different for me because I had just come to the National League and you walked into the the passion pit of Saint Louis Cardinal Baseball for sure we were regaining a little steps but in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight them and they just took gigantic gigantic the game took gigantic steps to reenergize our fans because of of Sammy and mark's home run chase. Do you think anything else could have brought fans and media attention back to the game other than something as over the top and bombastic as these two players hitting giant home runs to very likable double players hitting giant home runs the way they did. I don't think that hadn't thought about it that way but just make quick gut feel would be no because if you think about the most dramatic example offensively as a home run and one of the different say you had a pitch a couple of pitchers that were having just amazing seasons well they pitch every five days but in home run chase you had two guys that were playing every day and the the dynamics nine annex the drama of the chase as especially as it got to the second half of the season was an everyday occurrence and people look forward to it every day and every day there was there's some kind of of impact which spurred even more interest so by nineteen ninety-eight you had been managing in the Big Leagues for about Twenty Years Nineteen in seventy nine to about nineteen ninety eight at that point. Did anything prepare you for that type of day in day out attention and scrutiny for from from one of your players if you take the example of participating in October baseball especially to be more specific if you get to the world series by that time you know had had the three year experience with the Oakland A.'s of eighty nine and ninety and what you have there is on a you know for about ten days potentially you had total attention to the baseball world tons of media from around the world watching gene the best of seven series between two teams. We recognize that that kind of you know almost overwhelming wing attention and you knew it was like and then you transfer that to the ninety eight example and as I say especially has it built to its conclusion in the second half of the season. It was very similar to a world series experience with kind of attention. It was getting from from media and fans. Can you see the forest through the trees at that point how well this is reflecting on baseball. How many even non baseball baseball fans are paying attention to the sport because of the home run chase or is it. You know you're in that daily grind. It's sort of hard to take the ten thousand foot view. Now that was was that was a a no brainer because no matter where you walked I mean 'cause you're GonNa have a night game. You're out in the streets going the lunch or whatever and you know you're running running into people and the the comments and the interest was so apparent and it was so strong long that you couldn't escape it and once you got the Ballpark then you're totally embraced by all all the the interest and the desire to see something special that night the best example obviously was in early. September MAC and and Sammy we're in the same ballpark there in at Busch Stadium so in the two teams played again that that really brought it to its maximum it was captivating and and we all enjoyed it. What do you remember that. It was interesting that you said you know you go out for lunch. Especially on the road and you can't escape people talking to you about it. What would people say to you even on on the road about the home run chase even May June July. What what were the comments or the comments to me are they. Were pulling for mark sure that the the cubs fans would be pulling for Sammy but they were all about aid. You'd think they can do it. you know what what are the keys. I mean I'm a does he is. He heard is he is. He retired again frustrated. Easy Hawkins constantly the probably the most important and and frequent question was how is it possible for mark and I'm sure guys say same questions were being asked of Sammy how can an individual concentrate with so much attention and so much pressure to keep this thing moving forward and my answer was well. It's we watch it every day and and in our guy and evidently there guy is is really just finding a way to tune things out and just concentrate on on their craft which is looking for good bitching hitting as far as they could. What do you remember about marks mindset. During this time. Obviously Sammy had the much bigger personality. He was an extrovert whereas mark seemed to be a lot more reserved a lot more focused and thinking inside of his head rather than having a big personality externally. How is he handling things. Throughout the season the part that couldn't be reported because you know the reporters would know enough was Sammy was extrovert in which just really embracing all the attention and market time they thought people said he was surly and withdrawn because you know he's he has he has a shy quality tool and really didn't like attention being put on himself to the exclusion his teammates but the other side to it that I think it's important to mention when in the sanctity of that locker room and around his teammates. which were his family you know mark? Mark is engaging personality. I mean mark was the first guy to laugh at anything. We always thought that if you're a comedian we're doing a GIG. A comedy place put McGuire in the front row. I mean he can't help himself so it would mark part of his sanity was surrounding himself with the family and in having a great time in that in that locker room and they were kidding and you know doing things the guys doing it and they're having fun with because mark wanted to have fun within within the family but so as a cameras were all in a game was over you know he was he did not like center of attention but in the end the thing that that impressed me the most when you when you have a really wasn't just strength it was a stroke that did you could hit a strike and get that underspin where the ball carriage forever and all you know that's mechanical and it's timing and were a product of art work in the end the thing that I did most of us remember the most was his ability to concentrate at the moment of the games the at bats and if I could give you a verbal picture of it because they showed us so often if Mark Maguire was the third hitter that inning and there was a hitter at Bat and a hitter on deck mark would be in the corner dugout and you could see him. He ended battering shoulder and you could see him. Sometimes is closing his eyes and you could just see it was apparent that he was kostrate. You wouldn't take a nap and then he would as one hitter was done. He'd walk to so the on Deck Circle. He had a certain routine where he stretched his shoulders and took a few swings and then he do that same thing but abandoned shoulder and stand there and when when you were close to him and Doug I you could I mean I could feel the vibes from his brain where he was just really tuned in and then you go to bat and one way to bring had to life or to explain it would if you remember you august-september whenever both those guys came to bet the cameras would flash soon as a pitcher's throwing because they wanted to catch the swing the swing right well. Mark never saw those things because his concentration was so focused on the pitcher that you're looking at the the ball out of the guy's hand and as I repeat to me the most impressive part of what they and mark from our experience accomplish was the ability to absolutely tune every distraction out and just concentrate on seasonable hit and you probably doubly no mark better than anybody in the game at this point and even to today probably given your time managing him in Oakland and Saint Louis was he always like this it does it did his disposition remained constant from when he was a rookie until retirement or was there a way in which his personality and focus evolved Ono on he grew. It was a good time in his career. You know he signed his rookie. was everybody knows his nineteen eighty-seven and he showed his potential hit forty nine home runs as a rookie and it was and he was just seeing hitting any he didn't. WanNa overcomplicate the contest between the pitcher and a hitter didn't run a lot of advanced first reports didn't WANNA watch a lot of tape all he wanted to do is go up there and just see the ball and and his batting average reflected that there are times that he got fooled yeah but by the time you know ten eleven years later he had developed a real understanding of what pitchers and catchers were doing to get them out and the adjustments that were necessary and so he was studying what was likely to transpire fire so he could be ready and then he can be ready to adjust and you add that to the fact that over that ten year plus period he had really changed his mechanics to where he could get to pitch in the strike zone and get through it to elevated with underspin power so he he was he was exactly exactly ready for that moment because he was so smart not just about the concentrating part but about the game between the pitcher and a hitter and what his swing wing look like any edit outstanding hitting coach you know that that kept kept him on track and that's why a ps of that years later when he retired in two thousand ten eleven he became the hitting coach with Saint Louis Cardinals that went on to coach the dodgers and padres because he had developed that expertise way beyond his tally is basic talent. What's it like coaching the rest of the roster when you have so much attention on on one player more so than probably any player in any season during your career or even really since one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. How do you manage a group of guys who are treated did as surrounding players by everybody watching the game that is a great question and fortunately you know an. I and I don't ever disrespect Sam because they were raised different places you know mark was raised. In southern California went to southern cal. I mean he's he was used to you know a a lot of Nice things in life and im- Santa came up in the Dominican where he you know he became something special without the background sound of of all the privileges that come with with success like that salad sent. Sammy really embraced it and there were times that the his teammates were really excluded in almost and had to be pushed aside because there was so much attention on him well. It's is a hundred and eighty degrees degrees different with the cardinals because partly because the personality difference we discussed but partly because mark really felt like he was just a teammate in his contribution was playing good first base great first base and doing something offensively to win a game and and as a consequence he was beyond concerned with his teammates getting credit to the point where he got criticized if he hit a home homerun and we lost he didn't really WanNa talk about it. 'cause we lost and he didn't want to be celebrating a home run the clubhouse while there were guys in that club author contributed to loss if we WANNA game and he hit a meeting this home run when we wrought by seven to make us up by eight he wanted the attention on the guys that have gotten the six or seven on the board and a pitching to the point where go interview them first and later so efforts like those really endeared mark to his teammates because he knew they knew that he really wanted include exclude them in any way if it hadn't been that way if mark were we're more of a loner. Do you think he could have accomplished what he accomplished with. You know being a shire more reserve guy part of his motivation was just to contribute to the team but he's a competitor right and once he got into the competition with Sammy he really embraced you know going with Sammy and see who could hit more home runs so he was very competitive about that. Do you think that was happening. The majority of the season or at a certain point when it was clear that Sammy and market separated themselves salves was when mark really turned his attention to making sure he stayed ahead of Sammy. Were there was another story. That really started it. By the time we came to spring training meaning. Everybody was talking about what kind of year he could have and there were conversations and questions were being asked him in spring training. Can you hit sixty. Can you get to babe. Can you pass Roger. He was being asked at the beginning and opening day the Grand Slam homer to get it started and so the very I would say the first half of the year. The attention was hey look at look at the pace that he's on and can he break the record and then what happened is a sammy also went you know got really hot on the other side the other team and then it became the contest between the two but the point is it's mark carry this burden the pressure of it literally from the first is spring train to the end to the season. How much time do you have as a manager to pay attention to other things happening around the league that may affect not necessarily how you manage but how people people are looking at your team so managers do that because they feel like it's part of their job to make sure they stay abreast of what's happening in baseball and especially in in your particular league but in my case it was it was a labor of love. I mean you get up in the morning and you got a night game. You know you got ours ours so studying the box scores was just into you know part of it was yeah what what what can you learn it might help your club that night or soon thereafter but the other part was just fascinated by the game of baseball and you watch it and you watch the pennant races in every division and you watch who's pitching well. WHO's hitting well. You even see who's struggling struggling. I mean that's all part of you know love and the game and enjoying us so there's plenty of time to do that and completely concentrate on your team against team that night by one thousand nine hundred eight you had managed in the central and against the cubs and Sammy Sosa a fair amount. Do you remember being surprised by by a hitter like that going from. Being a guy who had thirty five forty home runs a season to what he was doing in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight especially. I think he hit twenty in June. Yes I was surprised yeah. I saw Sammy when he was with Texas you know and he was slender that he just got bigger and stronger but at the time that he came to the cubs you could see the power potential but he added refined the other things about quality hitting like you know having a good strike zone and and making sure that you select a pitch swing it you could he could be very aggressive and chase falls out of his own for example so so that the as and when he got by nineteen ninety eight then he he had refined those elements of good hitting. which is you know you you can only hit the pitches in the good part of the strike zone? If you chase bitches at the edge of the strike zone you're batting average is going to be under two hundred so you can see him develop as okay put that power along with the elements of good hitting by the end of the this season obviously mark sets the record breaks the record and sets the record at seventy if you were to look at a pie chart of his brain is it a higher percentage of relief relief on his part that he was able to fulfill the expectations of the world watching him or excitement about what he accomplished interesting that I think that when he passed the first couple marks was you know get to sixty and then pass it gets a sixty Z. to go by Roger. I think those were very significant effect. They happened in September with some games left. I think he was proud of of it very excited about it but there was a thing that fed both of them was that continual competition see who could hit the most home runs and that really spurred bird both of them to keep you know focusing on the at bats doing the best they could and and the and the race continued literally to the last weekend and and the reason. I kind of smiled about that was by the time we got to last weekend series against Montreal. Mark was physically the and more mentally exhausted There's even antidote about the Saturday night after he hit two home runs so that that that point he had sixty eight he asked me. We were dinner and he asked them yet. I don't know if anything left for tomorrow. You know we he was sitting like Margaret. He's saying you shouldn't you shouldn't play arrest a looked at me like well. What if this is no way I mean you got you. GotTa play people were there and we had a discussion that I'll watch and if you look like you're about to faint because you are literally exhausted. I'll get you out before you faint front of everybody else and he goes out there and hit two more for seventy that was such an exhausting ordeal pleasant ordeal for both of them by the time they they got to the end of the season both of them didn't have anything left in the tank they gave it their all and that's that's why it was such a great race in each one of deserves tremendous respect. One of the things you mentioned at the time was that you felt. Sammy Sosa deserve to win the MVP award for all he accomplished and the fact that the cubs who they were closer and headed to the postseason. Do you still believe that what what was your thinking back then just the fact that his team had a better record or was there something more as because that's in the end how do you how do you differentiate behind between a players in your league that are having outstanding seasons if there's one whose team ends up earning a spot Tober them by definition your contributions have contributed more wins ends and the reason that everybody starts playing is to play in October so I disarmed him was not disrespecting Mark Right. accomplishment is it's just the fact that you know. Sammy's that happened in his team was going October. Marks wasn't did you get blowback for that for not standing behind your guy or or did people. I praise you for for being honest and sticking with what you believed well. I didn't go around the League and listen to the praise but I know combing. When you're you're the Cardinal Family Garnell nation they were not happy with that one now obviously this many years later there's a lot more context to the season looking back at this era of baseball in the late nineties and early two thousands and PhD's and mainly that and you've said this that mcgwire and Sosa and Barry Bonds were products of an era of the sport in which their accomplishments were incentivized. Do you think do you think it's too much for a majority of fans and media to ever recognize that that context when talking about nineteen ninety eight. I just don't think it's possible to have a really intelligent discussion about what happened because there's too much that people don't know about right. you know here we are now. You know hitting home runs more than ever and and there's testing in place you know so. Will you know the home runs are byproducts of several things and that era there was PD use. I have said on many many occasions. mcgwire hit forty nine when he was a rookie. Yup if we mark Spain praise today he could still hit home runs he works got to this day the great great great majority of Mark Maguire strength and and talent came from years and years of very very intelligent displined workouts and dieting and I really believe that there had an instance to where you know he he went too far but I don't think the great majority of success came from an understanding what hitting was about and and and changing his mechanics to where he became a three hundred hitter right who hit the ball in the air with underspin so but that's you know it's a difficult thing to to talk about. I do believe that that era of the PD's was you know there's a it was a stain on on the game for that but pitchers were using them as well and I think the story that has never really been honored. Is that M O B through its players in uniform right through the organizational front front our front office into the Commissioner's Office. Were proactive about trying to get testing long before it became and I don't second guess I just disagree to Player Association in trying to preserve the players rights of privacy and collective bargaining just refuse to allow testing so testing could've come in a lot sooner than that and I wish it had because Maguire would have kept hitting home runs while he was still healthy and we would have been able to see the his greatness. Enjoy it more. Do you almost think that because the heights were so high because people were so enamoured because the accomplishment was seen so once in a lifetime that that it almost made the support like the supposed- alleged crime feel that much worse it was almost an emotional reaction rather so than a a strict by the rule reaction. I think so I mean it you know you we've had the great love affair with what Babe Ruth both did and then you talk about Hank Aaron you know and you know that golden era of baseball and so when you see some of those records broken uh-huh and you find out later that you know it wasn't broken you know without some help. I mean that that upset so yeah my answer's Yes. I think the level playing field is what is what fans want. They want to be able to trust the results whatever they are. They want to trust them and they are generational. Changes guys has got bigger and stronger but YOU WANNA do it. The best you can to a level playing field. Do you think the fans really want a level playing field when stars are worshipped like they are or they just want the stars on their team rather than some other team one of the interesting things that happened in one thousand nine hundred obviously reporter noticed the the the bottle of andro pills and marks locker and the reaction to it was this guy is a lunatic the report. Everybody vilified the reporter do you do you think there's an element of truth to to reporters helping to make a very awkward situation inside the sport. I'm not sure I I know how to answer that I I like to say is that there was a furor over the Andro pills that became a distraction until the point of taking something away from mark and his exploits except that those were pills that we were bought at a health store in the mall and it was yeast extract the one thing and they were not it wasn't illegal. You'll mark bottom because because he's you know he's working out in and it made him as workouts more productive so I thought at the time to point that out now when you buy those things at a store. I thought that was trying to take away from what mark was doing. Andrew was was and still is it's yeast extract you know on and he bought her at a mall store and I thought that that was unfair to take something away from his dorm from something that was available. Did anybody from what you know how everything is transpired throughout their post playing careers with mark and Sammy and Barry Bonds. Are they at peace. They have regrets. Is there lingering animosity with how they were treated and how they behaved what what you know about their mindsets today in two thousand nineteen well. I don't talk to bury about it. You know so. I don't know his attitude. I don't talk to Sammy about it. You know mark is very much. this is what it is now he's in the moment you know. He has an older son met. That's doing really well. He and Stephanie Got Married and they have two sons that are now approaching high school in a really great baseball. Prospects have a great life and they're going forward word. I think probably the credential that would be the best question to ask any of them. you know. Berry for example has been spoken about it. You know mark doesn't talk about it and that is all there at this point not in the hall of fame and are you know they're not on the voting thing anymore so you know he doesn't talk about it. He just doesn't think is possible do I do. I believe that he would be excited excited while I was inducted into the car hall of fame couple of years ago and he's being inducted in the Oakland A.'s Hall of fame this September and I can see the his is joy with that something. That's you know people already know that we mentioned a little while ago is you're still involved in the game and something interesting to me is there's the modern stress on launch angle or players really trying to get under the ball to drive as many balls over the fence or as far as possible. Whatever that's a a big new concentration in the sport these last few years didn't seem like an issue for hitters like mcgwire Sosa and bonds but hypothetically if they're twenty twenty five five years younger and coming up now. What types of players do you see them. As in two thousand nineteen as if they were all thirty years old effect it is that there is a proper way to hit a baseball extend your swing through the strike zone to where you elevate the ball and that has been a focus fitters for years and years and years not just now right and on the the pitching side what you try to do you try to get the ball where it's put in play on the ground or the only extra-base basis you get right down the line so that that that battle that confrontation was going on for years in my opinion when you see guys they're hitting into the low two hundreds to fifty and hitting home runs that emphasis on launching and and and the angle of attack and the exit speed all that I think that that's been generally detrimental to sound hitting and the the fact is if you put the ball in play so if you strike out one hundred two hundred times and you hit thirty home runs and hit two thirty that that that's not good hitting hitting and a lot of us believe that if you hit three hundred with a proper swing you it hit many more home runs have many more hits and make a much more enjoyable game because the ball is being put in place so you know some of the the measurements that they're using now about the Exa to speed off the bat right well. You could see a ball fly off a guy's best. You know he's got a live bet. Versa doesn't so a lot of it was observational and now they they are ways to measure them right but my point is that the IMF assists in getting the ball in the air has diluted. The proper stroke doc to were guys or hitting for less than average. They're striking out so much so that if they don't if they strike out for less less balls in play mean that they don't and help their Club you had twenty home runs and go to bed six hundred times that that's not very productive year twenty-five snap very productive you gotta you hit three twenty. You're going to end up hitting home runs. It's been proven by guys like Aaron Auto You. Take the great hitter today. When they hit over three hundred they hit more they have more home runs and what's happening as guys trying to elevate the ball people are saying it's okay to strike out and they're really taking away from the game and eventual production production. Is Home Run hitters. What do you think Mark Maguire looks like. In two thousand nineteen in terms of a home run chase in terms of physically with the advancement of of how much better recovery is now than it was twenty years ago with with how much worse social media has made things in attention. Do you think it's a different Mark Maguire in a home run chase given the modern world in two thousand nineteen. If you take not mark from eighty seven but mark for ninety seven ninety four ninety five we don't need three and eight to you know that's when he started changing his stroke if you take that converted McGuire with the better stroke and by as we explained earlier a Guy Guy who really paid attention to nutrition and training so they actually lost weight but got stronger you take that bad guy and you put them into the circumstance today with the ball is flying and and and guys like that would hit more home runs than ever hitting their life and that's why you know baseball is probably going to do something to to take away because this is distorted home runs right now and the number of guys are hitting are distorting. The value runs especially in relations to the historical generations of guys who are true power hitters so mcguire today with his stroke with the ball away carrying it. It'd be site two bills. Why do you think it is historic now. Balls being juice thing. Why why is it that you think that numbers are going so crazy? There are a lot of hitting coaches now that are teaching a swing to elevate the ball that in doing so they do things where they rotate a wave their head away from the ball they get under it and they hit with overspent and they make a lot of outs. They pop balls up in his strikeout right. The elements of good hitting are being mess with and they're getting publicity in fact that's the game today. A Lotta hitters have private hitting gurus and in many cases they are not nearly as productive as the true hitting coach who understands the finer points of not just power hitting but high average hitting. Is there anybody today that reminds you of mark and his approach and his productivity yeah. There's there's there's a bunch of out there are amine you look at just look at the guys that are hitting home runs that are hitting three hundred a right at three hundred and they're you know they're putting the ball all in play those guys that's it's emit easiest way to look at it is are you a power hitter and a high average hitter then you're hitting properly if your power rei because you hit twenty five running you strike out and you don't have a good average or not a good hitter. Taranov Tony Larussa. Thank you very very much for your time. That was fantastic. ASPIC and I think people are really going to enjoy this insight. I hope so I enjoyed talking Gordon again. That was Tony Larussa former manager of the Oakland. A.'s and Saint Louis Cardinals finals during mark mcgwire's time with both teams on our next series we dive into the head to head battles between boxers. 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Ben Fred Friday  October 23, 2020

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Ben Fred Friday October 23, 2020

"It's a Friday on scoops with Danny Mac dot com, and that means the weekend is here we're loaded with sports and let's talk it over with Ben Frederickson of the Saint Louis Post dispatch and Stltoday.com lot of people on a Friday will always come to the website because they like to hear from Benfrid show good morning. Ben Howard things going with you good morning man I'm doing well and grateful for the listeners a love hearing from folks who are chicken up the podcast and Whether, they're putting their kids down for naps I hear some that's a good nap like good naptime podcast when they're the baby down or driving to work. So it's fun man every Friday a chance to look back at the week and good chance to look forward at the weekend. Well, I'M GONNA take that in a couple of ways I hope this isn't putting them to sleep. Putting themselves to sleep God they're putting their kids to sleep okay and then check out the podcast Yajah. They're wired for for for for Benfrid Fridays Gotcha some hot takes coming. Scorching yacht it got it. Okay. You wrote at stltoday.com I've been talking a lot about this because I'm fascinated by a seventy six year old guy that we know quite well, I think we want to see him back selfishly in the game in a different capacity Tony Larussa. So you wrote about this potentially coming back managing the Chicago White, Sox I WANNA see it happen. I'm not sure it's Realistic they're gonNA go through with this or they're going to interview him I had Mike Shilton the podcast yesterday, you can go to the website I asked him at the very end I said, Hey, what do you think about it? He Goes Hey, he's a big boy go for it. I said good. Let's get them in I. think it'd be great. Think about Tony Realistically managing the Chicago White, SOx. It's one of those things where first of all with you I'd love to see it happen just because I think it's a great story and it would be fun to watch play out but the more I think about it the more sense it could make and it's one of those things that when I first saw the name I go oh I don't know about that. You know he does want to get back into doing that and and what you Shouldn't they probably go with somebody who's younger and then at the more you think about it and the more you look at all the things that could fit it really does start to make sense and the sides one is start with the white sox right they've got this loaded team full of young guys who need to figure out what they have to do to take it to the next level. They're no longer rebuilding they're ready to content and they need a manager who's been there done that who can both hold players accountable but also get the best out of. Out of players and help figure out WHO's the we're the best guys to bring in around this young core. Tony is old school in a lot of ways Dan. But as you know as low as anyone, he's not old school and how we treat players he has unique relationships with each player. He knows what's guys need need tough love. He knows what guys need around their shoulder. That's not something that phases out at the guy knows how to do that. He knows how to do it and he's not been. You know away from the game. So He's been golfing he's been. He's been at more winter meetings than anybody. In between you know the time he walked away for managing again, he's been active in multiple front offices. He's got relationships with current players, some of the young players that he was. Managing back in the in the you know his time with the cardinals are that get some of the guys who love him the most to this day. So he speaks that language he knows analytics more than some people give him credit for he was doing analytics before they had a name. And then the other thing I think is the what's his motivation and that's the big question is why would he want to do this? Well, Tony Love Stories and he he loves he loves books loves movies. He loves the idea of of a good story and this would be a great story. He is he he's managed three places. He's won championships at two of them He didn't have as much success as you would have. Liked to with the white sox his first stop he he remembers those days as as part of what makes made in the great manager he became, but he didn't get to have that success there. He's remained fins with with chairman are Jerry Reinsdorf who has called firing Tony Larussa, mistake it would be kind of full circle job and I think that it would be i. think it would it would be good for both of them. I talked to Tony the last night talked was during what would have been opening week. For Baseball, and I said Hey. have. You thought about retiring and he you know politely scoffed and he said I've got too much to give the game if they as long as there's somebody who wants me to give something to baseball and I'll give it and he was so crazy after a month without baseball that. Maybe, re reminded him how much he liked managing. So he's too old think he is very very. Up to date with what's going on with the game and I think he would command respect with that that clubhouse. So I hope it happens. I. Think it's more realistic than some people are given it. May Be given it credit. We'll see I think they wanNA talk Aj Hinch, and everybody else. But they did talk to somebody who's been winning the White Sox Organization for a long time. He said look this thing has some legs to there. It's not just people throwing names round he has interviewed. At least met with the white sox once about it which I don't think he probably would have done unless he was interested in the job. So we'll see how it goes. You know I I've been asked about this and I said, it's not like taking some guy off the couch from ten years ago. That hasn't been around the game and that that is the big difference you know in Arizona running that franchise then being with the angels and if you watched any of these games and he's always in constant contact with members of the cardinals in particular like Mike Scheldt he he is in a Owner sweet or he's in a GM boxer president of baseball operations or at the Boston Red Sox. He's taken notes and he's trying to do his due diligence with those two teams and and or those three teams I should say in his capacity and in those roles. So you know you're not just coming off the couch. Insane. Well, here I am I'm going to try to do what I was doing ten years ago. The game is completely different than it was ten years ago. So He's around the game and as you mentioned, yeah, the players they they've changed a little bit but he's been there with those. And in terms of just instinct credibility, he walks in the clubhouse in my mind. He's got it because he's got the resume and when you shake his hand, he's got the rings. So he's got the credibility. You're right he knows when to kick a guy in a rear and he knows when to put his arm around you. So I don't know man I think he could do this and I just I think it's fascinating I think it'd be great for the game. Yeah I think to the motivation for him would be there I mean what? What a thing that would be for him to put the final chapter of his baseball career by leading the white sox to a world series. You know he won them in in Oakland he won he wanted to in in in Saint Louis, he three between goosing the to you only had one first place finish. With the White Sox he he had one postseason appearance than they passed the. The Alcoa. CITED ONE Like knowing Tony you know that sticks with it, he can both enjoy start that he had in Chicago. But no, you know what it would mean to him to go back there and win big in. This is the team to do it. We got to mention to and this is huge cardinals. Fans will know Dave Duncan is a pitching advisor with the white sox he's but the organization and know how Tony. Feels about Duncan and what their what their relationship was and how they were able to really co-pilots when it comes to managing a game. So the fact that he's already there I think makes things makes things really really interesting You know I don't think he's missed a beat when it comes to Enga- management and I think he's probably if anything more receptive now to at relationship a front office and manager. In this current modern age than he was when he was a fulltime and he's seen it from the other side. So I think it's an intriguing name again, the more you think about it the more the more sense it makes especially when you factor in the fact that that Tony knows a thing or two about stories in wanting to put his mark on things to in things the way he wants to be really I just think it's it's so interesting to see. What kind of coaching staff he would assemble a mix of youth and maybe the the old school guy and and the Kinda guy that he would get I. I'd really be curious to see what he would do what direction he would go and what he's been observing through the years of what kind of coach he may one and maybe he goes against some of the guys that he's had in the past you don't know or maybe gets the band back together who knows I mean. That's what I said. Well, we not all be simultaneously watching the cardinals reading up on the White, sox if he was there. And I loved it. I loved that Sheltie says Gulf War Man. sheltered silty just glad he's not in the same division probably because. They. The that would go from an and they love each other really do have a great relationship but I imagine they could get cross with each other pretty quick if they were managing kids each other wouldn't it be in the same division? Hey, wouldn't it be weird and interleague play see those two guys go toe to toe and start screaming at each other I'd be there for it though I be copying. There could be some red asked. To meet each other. OFF TO AWESOME I'll give credit and he's really was one of the first to come out and say, and he had a good relationship with Mike Metheny I? Don't. WanNa make it seem like there was just taste between those two but. When when chilled got the job Tony. One of the first guys to come out and say, Hey, an people don't know much about this guy but need to wake up this guy knows what he's doing. I think I think he was very outspoken in his support. and I think that resonated with a lot of people and they still talk a for folks who ran is Tony dated Mike. Show doesn't call Tony and say, Hey, what tell me what to do here that's not how these guys talked to each other, but he does call him and say, Hey, here's the situation. Here's what I did. What do you think about that? What would you have done tell, and here's what in they talk baseball and Tony's talking baseball with guys who are still managing night in night out, he'd never has stopped. So this idea that he was been at the golf. Course or something or doing only is our dinners for for for for ten years. Now, it's just not the truth a the gold gloves Ben were determined at least the finalist yesterday in it's done in a different fashion this year than in the past usually there's a vote by human beings or at least a portion of that and this year solely determined by numbers and that's using sabres defensive index and Yada Your Molina not finalised at catcher. The cardinals do have three finalists, Tyler Neo Colt. Long Paul Goldschmidt. So no Yati. So He's trying to get that ten gold blood. What did you think? Well I think the my guests here is that some of these players don't understand how it was selected this year. you know they were actually talking about this before we started recording just the selection process and you can't do it the old school way, which is the only way it normally works as you have a group of voters in it's this is like the one award where people can't get mad at the writers it's the it's the managers and the players. So the writers have nothing to do with it the riders, worth broadcasters, but they send out these packets of the stats. Here's what the numbers say but. We also want you to use your eye test. You've played against these guys in bandaged against them in. It's it's their vote, but it's it's they hope it's informed by the numbers. Well, this year because there was no crossover play they just decided to make it all about the numbers and that's really that's all there is to in the numbers they selected the defensive statistics day valued. That's how it shook out. Now you're gonNA when you only go by those numbers numbers, you're gonNA get some surprising things like. Every in central catch are getting love except for Yati Your Molina. You're going to get things like Tyler O.`Neil. Being mentioned as a finalist who was a very good defender but I don't know that anybody says if you ask ten people if they would tell you that they think Tyler O'Neill's. Gold glove finalist in left field. At some of it with the audience, it was the games played. A key factor into those stats he missed time due to Kobe and it was an incredibly short season. So I think that was going against him. He also had more it's a kind of an uncharacteristic masterpass balls this year. So if he has a better understanding of how that happened, maybe get that upset response, but he was almost like he was upset about the voters but there were voters it was just the numbers. So I hope they don't keep doing it this way because I liked that the players and the managers have a say in it. But for this year, it was it was going to be hard to vote that way. So I really think this is a lot of noise about about kinda nothing to the honest. Complaining. About the voting process or the the selection process I is fine but it's not like there's a person or people get mad about you I. Think if you if you go solely on the numbers in this is strictly numbers you would understand Fan Graphs Defensive War Molina ranked fifth in the national among catchers defensive runs saved he was seventh framing metrics. He was thirteenth led all nationally catchers. He had five airs. He trailed the three finalists in fielding percentage. He allowed three passed balls five for eleven and attempted stolen basis. Now those are the numbers. Here are the facts and I, think you would agree with me on this bend we watch him on a nightly basis he controls a running game he controls. A pitching staff he is a savant behind the plate defensively and understanding how a game is run. He's like a coach I mean it's Cliche but he is like a coach or a manager on the Field Mike Sheldon the podcast yesterday with me said, he sees the game better than I do and he said I'm not overstating that he said he he. Sees the game better than I do and he said I don't mean disrespect other managers. He sees the game better than they do is quite a statement from Mike shelled. So when you start factoring in those things that don't show up his just black and white numbers, then you get a full understanding of what he means to the entirety of the game. Well said and you're not gonNA ever get a full appreciation of Audio Molina based off of just the numbers which kind of makes it a little odd the Rawlings in the the group that awards this thing decided to. Just, based off the numbers in the season that was sixty gangs right all we're hearing about this year is how these numbers were not supposed to read too much into it. Now, sometimes I agree with that sometimes I don't but this would be one of those cases where it's hard for me to agree with some of the things the numbers are are wholeheartedly Sixty Games as is is a very short amount of time. In terms of valuing some of these numbers. But if the goal of the award, this year is to reward those numbers and that's exactly what they decided to do That's that I can see how they made those. There was really no decision to make you punch it into the computer and that's your. That's your vote. That's that's that's who wins. That's kind of why I feared like this is a bigger picture but. Hall of fame voting can at some point be argued in that way well, you punch these numbers into an algorithm and this guy's a hall of Famer and this Guy's not, and there's no wiggle room. Well, that's not I don't have a vote yet, but that's not how I will vote in and I hope that's other people kind of include some other thoughts into that thing just besides the stats I, think you WanNa talk to people who played with game people played against these players and if that would element was involved than it. Usually is in the gold glove selection. I think you probably would have seen Yada Marina be a finalist again, but the way they explained it, I, get it I. Wonder if some of the players who seem to be upset understand why things have changed this year world series it's been fun. This postseason expanded playoffs I've really enjoyed it. Now we're getting back to I don't know if the word normalcy is right because there's no at least not a full stands but we're seeing some fans in the stands which has been interesting in itself. It's. A great pitching matchup tonight Walker Bueller for the dodgers Charlie Morton for the raise and in terms of the offense. I. Mean The dodgers that lineup it's deep. It's powerful. Man is patient on the other side the Rays I. You know I was saying going into this. If the dodgers win this series, it'll be their offense which is really good and they cannot pitch to randy arose arena which they have not. He's walked three times. He's one for six, and all they're doing is really a with breaking balls. I, was looking at some numbers with him. Ben He seen twenty nine pitches so far in the world series, he's only seen seven fastballs. The amazing number that I dug up with this, the dodgers have sent seventy seven batters to the plate. They've five home runs, eleven walks, and they've got twenty six strikeout so more than half their played appearances have resulted in a bowl, not being hit to a fielder that's an incredible amount. So you understand how deep the dodger lineup is, and you understand the importance of randy arose arena and it sets up to have a really entertaining game number three tonight. I think the other gentleman in his game are those raise money relievers? No doubt. They've got this like cloning machine guys who can throw gas for two plus innings and it's it's really remarkable if they can get a lead to the bullpen, their chance of winning goes up big time So that's the other kind of interesting element there. I had a kind of sense going into this theory that that man the dodgers are GonNa win this thing in six in it might not take that long after that first game I? Thought yeah they're gonNA sweep this thing but raise to their credit resilient they bounced back they're going to have to have heroes emerge offensively that's going to be the secret for. Them, they're going to have to get leads to the bullpen but in order to get there, they've gotta have some guys beat that beat the dodgers that aren't randy because the dodgers are doing exactly the right thing. Same thing that we saw the cardinals try do against Fernando Tateishi junior late in that series where they just don't let him be who beats you. Someone else do it, and if you can if they do that, then you tip your cap and that's that's a good game plan execution. Counter but but don't let this guy who's turned the postseason. Do a breakout performance just continue to do that against you give him pitches that are hit. It can earn it and don't be afraid to walk them and you know the numbers were there with the raise do without reindeer rose arena. There are very meagre hitting team. Yep. So make they. Compete against that team in take randy out of it. I think that's the right approach and I think over a seven game series that will that will reward the dodgers I still think they're going to win it but it has gotten a little more a little more interesting. So credit the race for making it a better series. I'm it's fun to watch these two teams because of the story lines, right? I mean one is the the cost conscious. New Wave of of baseball value is everything and the other is kind of the throwback, a spin two wins, and we're GONNA see which which one claims. But I'll tell you what it's fun to watch Lewke beds. Level with all the ways that he can affect the game I mean in his base running in his defense in his saw, the power show up in game one. He's an incredible fund, incredibly fun player to watch and. I'd be okay at the series was was thirty games. If he gets to play like that every night he's incredible. I want to switch gears talk a little college football. We've got the big ten kicking off. So the fighting align I we've got Mizzou and Kentucky tomorrow, and let's start with Mizzou and Kentucky Kentucky you know they go to Tennessee. Off a very good volunteers team in my opinion, but they go to Knoxville and do it. So they're gonNA come to. Tomorrow and Eli Drink. It's it's been a couple of weekends since we've had that LSU UPSET WIN howdy size up this game. Well, it's it's interesting because Missouri went from writing that high of that lsu upset to thinking it was going to go play vanderbilt to think. It was It was going to play Florida at Florida to think in Oh. No get ready for Kentucky, and it's Kentucky team. That kind of stumbled out of the gate is now very good football with back-to-back wins was a throttling they put on the volunteers in Knoxville last week they're really solid program it never get the respect they deserve and people talk about this enough. They have this week leading into this. Missouri. Is Lost to Kentucky. Now, five consecutive years Dan I remember talking to you about this last year and it's gotten worse since then there is not a player on this campus that does what it's like to beat Kentucky and football. Vice versa, there's not a player in those meeting rooms in Lexington that knows what it's like to lose to Missouri. Now, the gains have been closed, of course, one of them being the painful. UNTIMELY DOWN ON A pass interference call in Columbia fifteen fourteen believed was a score that one where Jim sturt cut cut cursing on the sideline after the game and they've been some painful losses but they're really. Really a dividing line in the SEC east, and you know what what everyone says is you're either team that Beats Kentucky order not well, but no one acknowledged that mark stoops has discredit mood that line up Kentucky Kentucky is now. The team that wouldn't lose to Kentucky. If that makes sense you know, and they can point to that winning streak over Mizzou and and say that they're not flashy. They're not going to beat you with their big armed quarterback Terry, Wilson rather run it as much as he throw it but they run the ball they're dedicated to the run their average in something like around five yards a carry which is. Twice at the first down I'm not good at math but I do know that if you round up and then you also have a defense that's playing lights out creating turnovers taken picks back for touchdowns. He's not gonNA be able to score to have to hope to score fifty point in this game to win, they need to play good defense against Kentucky's run game and they need to force Kentucky to try to beat them through the air because I think they will. They will have more success with that. They did a great job against the Ron Against Lsu, but else you also didn't try to run it in. The first half at all Kentucky certainly will so that nothing's going to be the key to this game, and if you lie drink quits can beat Kentucky and snap this streak. It will not be celebrated like the win against Lsu was, but it might actually be more quality win by the end of the season. Yeah you're right and so lovey Smith and the align I and the big ten they're back in action as the finding ally and the big ten they've got eight straight weeks no off week. So Sec, they built in some off weeks even the championship game if you're not in it, they could play in that. So, if you do have a team that's hit with Covid, there's a chance then to maybe slip in a bye week and you could play there and play in the championship weekend. Those kind of things the big ten, the testing is every day. The line is you know they're testing couple of times a day with saliva tests and whatnot they've been at the forefront of the big ten. They've got Wisconsin Tonight just give me your thoughts on how the big ten is trying to do this, and then dovetail into what you think is going on with Lovey Smith and the fighting align I. Well. I think the big ten is smart the test every day across the board I do think they made a mistake by not starting early enough that can include any wiggle room weeks into their schedule. In case team has a setback. They have a very strict rule in place about the number of players on a team that can be that can. Have a positive test before they have to not play that week, and if they get to that number than they're gonNA wish they would have scheduled in some by week. So they could do what we've seen the SCC do which is kind of rewrite the schedule on the fly. So many things are going to have to go right for the big ten teams to. Avoid missing any of their games. They're planning on playing. Eight gangs but there there's no, there's As, the one that there's no chance to make that up and I think that could be a real problem. If you're talking about Ohio state, its resume to make the College Football playoff or maybe like an undefeated surprise big ten team say Minnesota everybody's in love with Minnesota's chances this year if they are if they play. Limited like six games but they're undefeated. Then how does that way against maybe a one loss Georgia team and you can see how that conversation's just get chaotic? In because there's no there's no wiggle room baked into this big ten schedule. So hopefully, the everyday testing works hopefully, this becomes a non issue although I'm afraid it will become a problem at some point as fail annoy. Interesting Year right I mean they had they had the the kind of the high watermark last season. Where they were able to to really you know get sin Lovey Smith into promising. In that discussion but as is his job on the line. They have huge win at Michigan state came after they had beaten Wisconsin Wisconsin team. It was four wins in a row, and then the worm told him a little bit. They lost that that following week to Iowa. Okay. That was a ranked Iowa team that lost northwestern. They would often boss their bowl game and it was three consecutive. In the season that kind of soured things a little bit not all of it but a little bit. So that was frustrating and now they have to I think the thing is you'd really like to see them have a winning season. You'd like to see any of that hot seat conversation talk about Lovey Smith Return. It always fascinating place because they've got a coach that they they extended in they'd have all is powerful. Of. They also have this financial climate that we're GonNa see where if you have a fresh coach off fresh extension with a big buy out and play, then you're going to be less likely to move on. So the best case Illinois it'd be to keep. People from wondering about Levees Future there. Hey Man. Awesome. Stuff should be a fun weekend lot of college football line Mizzou. All inaction got the world series. And let's just keep it going and make sure you stay safe and healthy, and we'll catch up next Friday. Sounds good but I talk to you soon have a weekend and it will catch up in a week and if anybody would like to hear the Mike Shield interview that's up on the website and wherever you get your podcast, give us a positive rating and also you can tweet at us as well. We appreciate Ben Friday we do this every Friday on scoops with Danny Mac dot com.

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Jason Isringhausen  Hall of Fame

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Jason Isringhausen Hall of Fame

"Welcome into scoops with danny mac dot com and my visit with cardinals hall of famer jason isringhausen. I was able to record this visit with jason at hotshots. It's and this was something that was very very important to me to do and <hes> jason talks about so many different aspects of his baseball life in this visit from his parents being booed games him being booed closing out the two thousand four national the league championship series to what it means to him to wear the red jacket. It's an amazing comment that he talks about how important this is to be on that stage in the cardinals hall of fame with some of his heroes. All that is covered. It'll give you a better idea of what this means to him to go into the cardinals hall of fame game. This is brought to you by hot sports bar and grill. Don't forget about the free golf. 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I think it's it's just a dream. Come true. We've a third time was a charm you know i. I finally got my family to vote enough. I i think that's what it was but you know it's just like i said drink true so to be up on that stage with with my heroes kind of behind me you know and then plus the guys that i played with that are now have the red coats on like carpet jimmy edmunds and now scott rowland myself. It's just a a new generation of guys going in its from those it's two thousand teams and you know hopefully we'll get a few more of us in there from our generation but if not you know it's a good fraternity to be part of. Has it sunk in yet that you're headed to the cardinals hall of fame now. I don't think that will start until i have to speak in front of everybody and i get that lump in my throat and yeah about ready to throw it in my own mouth. There's going to be a lot of people there sure is gonna be a ton of people on a ton of people that you know and love from this side of the river brighton illinois and we're we're doing this at the hot shots edwardsville show a lot of these folks have come out to to see you and that's what makes us really special and it's no disrespect to the other guys that are that are in all fame and they deserve to be there but you're a native. You're a saint louis cardinal fan. That's got to be a little bit more special. I would assume because you cheered for the team. You cheered for those guys and now you're part of that fraternity. They don't i to me. They don't consider me a local guy because i'm from among the across the river so to speak but we grew up here on this side of the river rooting and cheering for the cardinals since i know i did since the day i was born i remember the eighty world series eighty two world series with with willie making those catches over the wall and <hes> just all through the years and the mets being pond scum and and then and and then i got drafted by the mets so they didn't go wealth my grandmother a bad <hes> so it's just been a long time coming in there's diehard carnivore fans on this beside the river to and it's just like i said a dream come true for me and my family and a lot of my friends that have been diligent on the on the online voting you know the facebook and instagram and everything in between and i all this to them into the fans. They're the ones that voted me and have you thought about the speech number one and have you written any of the speech yet. You know when i when i come up with something i jotted in my phone so i have some notes here and there but it's going to it'd be a i want to do it. Closer to the time so everything's fresh and i can remember and i my whole is not forget anybody. I mean there's a lot of people i can think and there's a lot of people i think this is more than about me. This is a journey of a lot of people that helped me get here and you know it starts from my parents and then it goes on into coaches in high school and college and and then you go into your scouts and the guys that sign you then you're minor league coaches that never gave up on you. You know when things are going bad and you know i. I owe a lot to the mets for. I had my tommy john with my first one and they didn't give up on me and they they traded me to oakland so i oh billy meaning oakland a lot. He made me a closer walt. Jocketty brought me here so i mean then you got tony and dunk and everybody else along the way you and guys that have kind of been in <hes> lobbying for me throughout the way i mean there's just so many people to think. It's just been a great ride. I don't consider myself a career. I don't either but this is different but this is different when look down and see my mom and dad and they've been going through a lot lately. You know my mom's got some health things going right now so there's there's a lot going on in my family. Family from texas is gonna come up and there's been some things going on down there. So just there'll be a lot of emotion and then if i see some teammates and things like that they go on the i it's. I'm gonna i try not to but i can't. I can't tell you for sure for the guys that are already in whether it'd be baseball's hall of fame or the car the hall of fame ozzy willie those guys as you mentioned that are on that stage now you're part of that fraternity who is your favorite growing up why and a follow up to that. What's it's been like being around them as a player now working for the organization. I think it was anybody that played on those teams. You know we're all we all grew up playing with football wanting to be ozzie and willie tommy her pendleton and lonnie smith and wanted to be bruce suitor and joaquin and hard darrell porter. I mean it just goes on and on. I mean if you're a baseball fan when you played with a ball in the backyard. You wanted to be somebody. I mean if you're pitching. You wanted to be bob porsche. You know it didn't matter if it just so you want to be somebody and it was just that whole that whole group of guys from those eight teams those early eighty teams in every one of them are worth being up there how many guys have reached out to you about this aw and going into the hall of fame whether it be hall of famers now or you know guys that you played with and said man is this is this is unbelievable. You're going to the cardinals hall of fame you probably half the guys that'll be behind me every stout to me but you know when you got mike shield reaching out to you you know and and coaches out there now that i've worked with throughout the years and and players that i played with in the past i mean like yourself and bernie mac lists and guys like that guys on the radio sale that covered me and hummel yeah. I mean it's been it's been very humbling so to speak but it's you know i haven't got the whole gist of how big is yet. You almost never became amo cardinal and my understanding was. I think you told me this that you were playing golf and answered a phone call directly from bill dewitt junior here. Is that correct yeah what happened big man called and you had to listen yeah i a friend of mine and i we were going out to golf and i told my wife when i left the house as they were signed with the texas rangers you know they got family there to have both of my sisters live in dallas and we i was signing with the rangers and i think i'm going to go golfing for the day and we're golfing to mr duet called and said what's it gonna take and i just personally came my mouth. Was you know million dollars and he said okay done. I was like oh crap. Maybe maybe i should have said more right and i just thought i've never seen a million dollars in my life so i was just like yeah million dollars dollars he goes okay done and that was it and that was it and i was like oh crap and you've verbally agreed with the rangers. Did they think like okay. We got is he. Now we're on to our next to my agent. Yeah we're going to sign with the and then i had to call me and say <hes> take it back. Take it back. I'm not doing it. How pissed were they. I don't know i. I never got a phone call from him but you know it was just one of those things where i mean i could not turn down my home team. Maybe on the rangers had made an offer that was was substantially high and we didn't really talk to the cardinals at much and then mr do it just made that phone call and it was still less than what the rangers offered but it was just just one of those things where i went down to texas had dinner with the owner mr hicks of the rangers so everything in the world of meat to have mr dewitt call me and i it could have been one hundred dollars with the cardinals. There was just that but was your agent like you're a moron. What are you doing. We we negotiate this. We got leverage h he knew what i wanted to go. I mean i told him i wanted to go and it just never we just never talked much about the cardinals and then when it came down to it it was like it was a no brainer it was it's coming here. No matter what you went through so much physically just to play the game of baseball and for fans that are listening or watching give me the litany litany of injuries and surgeries that you have had just to get to this point right now waiting whenever i'm ready. I'm going to do my eighteenth surgery and i'll have my eighteen. I'll have my second knee replacement while but no i mean since i've retired. I've had my back done. My knee done hip neck but i had thirteen was playing brain. Yeah i need my brain fixed kyrie soon but not had three tommy. John's wada's playing a knee six hundred shoulder three tommy john's three tommy john's yeah you must be one of the guys that ever made it back from that. As far as i know yeah yeah and that's like the only anything that doesn't hurt today your elbow yeah wow when you decided to come to st louis and get that i say do you remember that going out there and that i stein wearing the cardinal uniform or even maybe opening day and the clydesdales in the pomp and circumstance that opening day the first opening day was such a bler. I don't remember anything of it. It was such a whirlwind coming here. You know having to say no to a lot of people about getting tickets and things like that. It was a it was a cluster to say at least but you know we got through that day and i don't remember the first save. I don't remember a lot of the saves. I remember if you you know closing out championships and here and there or pitching in the all star game or something like that but pitching in four world series against boston. I mean the little things like that but like the day to day stuff. I don't remember i remember remember certain home runs. I gave up to certain people and i remember certain saves. You know against a certain guy or something like that but a lot of it was a blur. How did you handle the winds. The losses in the blown alone saves always knowing that the sun was gonna come up the next day. I mean it's gonna be a brand new day in tony's gonna put me back in there and and so i didn't have time to really dwell on it. That's why i did so bad. As a starter i think i think i dwelled on it for four days and then to think about it and if i had to in a row then i really really dwelled on on and then you know blowing a couple of days in a row is it's hard but knowing that you can go out there that third day and get it done it kind of puts it all aside and then you try to get on another run and put a bunch of more saves together. How did you become closer because you were part of the izzy pulsipher wilson big three coming up and you guys are getting compare air to new york to seaver and all these great pitchers that were there in new york. You are the big three in it. It just didn't materialize except for you. How did that all happen but you gotta remember when we were the big three or whatever like we didn't have pitch counts so when we were in the mire leagues we were. We were being being groomed to throw nine innings. No matter what whether took eighty pitches or one hundred and forty we were throw nine innings and if he didn't make it through nine hundred you got in trouble yeah so that's how you learn though and that's how we learned i mean that's what that's what our job was was to go to nine innings and did matter. If you get one run or ten runs you're going to get through ninety one way or the other and just wore on us and we all had to have tommy john and i came back from mine and i started when i got back from my first time john and then i tore some scar tissue my oboe and then they said are you going to be the long out of the bullpen. I got my first save new york as a three any save and i think right after that i got traded. I got traded to oakland and billy bean. It was the general manager there and he said i was going to close games and i just <hes> there was an old veteran doug jones in the bullpen and i said teach me any. He taught me everything that he knew. I mean he was a fastball changeup. Guy which i didn't throw it was just my main thing was like don't get beat to the short side of the ballpark late in the game so i never wanted to give something somebody could pull out of the park for a home run so i- smart i worked my way at being able to throw that pitch down away with is closed. When you struggled gold at home. How did your parents or loved ones deal with it. And what did they have to deal with in the stands honest about this well. I mean it was like getting that phone. Call the next day. The next morning for my dad was like oh great. I gotta go to the cafe and listen to all my buddies. Give me crap over coffee about how bad you did but i mean it. Was you know my my friends would get in fights in the stands. I mean my parents quit coming to games. I mean they realize yeah. I mean moms still hasn't been to a game and i don't know i don't know if she'll come to the induction shen thing but i'm trying to get her to come yeah. Yeah i mean it takes a toll but everyone goes through it. I mean i just went through it because i was a local kid. It's the fans ends jobs if they want. It's no big deal. I mean we're used to that and it gets personal sometimes but that's just the way it is. I mean it's just part of the job i mean. That's why we do it. I mean because of the simple fact that you're you're the here the goal every day. There's no. There's no in-between brad. Thompson told me that the best thing about is he. If he bluish louis save he knew he would not have to buy any liquor that night because as he was getting going to gather up all the guys and we're we're going to go out and we're going to get rid of anger or my anger meaning you and have a little fun and that was one way to kind of cope with it. Just get with the guys. Go out and put it behind you. Yeah i mean i'd say what you're saving. Ten in a row is no fun well. I try to take the young kids as much as i could and we had a good time but yeah if i did bad we're you're gonna have a long night. Yeah you had to go out and get rid of the demons no matter what we had to do to get out of the next day all over so we had a lot of fun doing that he he's told that story more than once. I had a bad night. We were going to have a good night. Lee are so yeah. We did that quite a few times. What was it like pitching for tony larussa russa i i i give tony a lot of credit for my success because i think he had more faith than me than i did and and even when i was hurt and he knew i or i knew i shouldn't be out there. He's still told me you at seventy percents still better than what i got down there so i mean he threw do me out there a lot when i told him i like tony. I don't know if i can go. He said well. You're going to go tonight and we'd get the job done. I mean i'm out there with throwing look like i was throwing throwing beach balls up there at the hitter. I mean just you kind of just have to will yourself to get the job done. You put the pain but the pain aside. Maybe take an extra shot or an extra pill. Do do whatever you gotta do to get out. There for the guys was one guy now that you're done. You could say this one guy that you did like that. You liked to face one guy. You did not like the face. I i didn't like anybody. Whether mentality has to be i can get you out right as a closer. I'm here. I'm the best of what i do. I'm gonna get you out no matter who you are. You're my thing was my my confidence. It was like i knew i could make any pitch that i wanted to at any time so i knew that day. If i was going good and i can make my pitches is i was gonna get anybody out but it's those days that you don't feel well. We're that little extra zip now and your fastball on. You're you're hoping that the hit line drives people you just try to keep it in the ballpark ballpark and and have all your gold glover's that we catch it yeah and then you tip your cap to your outfielders in madrid and go onto the next day four you closed out l._c._s. and you talk about certain saves that you remember and i remember seeing the camera. That's on the ground and all you kind of did was kinda. Give one of these in glove and give a little fist pump and that was it but that had to mean so much to you because you were taking the team that you cheered for for the first time to the world series since since one thousand nine hundred eighty to eighty five eighty seven i mean it was a big deal. There was nothing that happened in the nineties so it's been a long time. What what was that moment like for you in closing that out well. It's <hes> i still and still to this day. I just feel like when i see these kids act the way they do act like you've done it before so to me no matter the last save of the season or whatever it i've done it forty more times before that so it just another save i mean i knew it wasn't the last day of the year i mean we had to get to the world series yeah the last save the world series it'd be really big but until then it's just another game and the one that stands out the most is probably not even save it was a win. I mean it's it's kind of weird because albert was just in town yeah when he hit the home run off brad lidge in houston houston i pitched the eighth inning and thinking that okay okay the game's over i just didn't and then run and i'm like oh my god i gotta go back out and pitch tonight and that was probably the most nervous i really was on the field because i knew if i screwed that one up i wouldn't have never been booed out of saint louis forever. That would have been tough to come back from yeah. There's no down because i appreciate that we got out of the eight. It was a top of the ninth brad lidge who's been unhittable all year long came in and you know exxon has that little drinker gets on first base and then albert hits a hanging slider over the tracks and everybody's jumping up and down the dugout not only thinking oh you know what i gotta go back out and pitch. It's a podcast podcasts. You could say it. It's all good but i won't in my mind mike. Oh my god i gotta go back out there and get through outs and i can remember that last pitch was a cutter chris burke and he had to fly all right here and they caught it and just amazing and i gotta w that in a win not say but that's probably the one that sticks out the most i always always in. Mike shields office the other day in a semi private conversation but jim edmonds was my partner. We're in new york and i said you know the thing that made those those teams that you played on great and i used a different word to describe it. I said there were some jerks on that team and i meant that in a good way you guys are really good guys and always treated me very well but i mean on the field between the white lines yourself jimmy rolan albert molina mo- larussa russa dave duncan. I mean there was an edge to those teams. Where you guys you wanted to not only beat people you want to beat him up and it just seemed like there was an f. to those teams and that's what made you guys as good as you were. I think that all started with tone. You know what i mean yeah but i think that all star tony and anybody that knows tony. Hey tony how you doing doing day. I'll let you know ten thirty right you know tony was all about he was very businesslike and wanted to beat everybody and i think it started there and it just kind of trickle down to the starters to the bullpen to the players and yeah i mean we knew we were good when you have a good team. You know you only have this team for so long. It's going to be together so he's this guy you gotta take the most you gotta make the most of what you got and we had those meetings all the time where tony he gave five of us five veteran guys that we ran the clubhouse so we did everything the way we wanted to do it and if something got really bad we let tony so we had these meetings with the players saying we got a certain chance here for the next couple of years you know and then you add somebody like larry walker right on you. Get something like that. It's great but if not you got your certain guys in you. Gotta make do it and you've got a three or four four years span. We have to make the most of it. You can't and we knew that so. It was like get everyone why we can win. Every series we went to the three at the end of the year. We're going to be great and was our motto. I hope when you're on that stage jason. I hope you wear your oh six world series ring and for those that don't know he refuses is to wear it because he said he wasn't on the mound and getting the final out wasn't part of that run because you were hurt but you did so much to help that team even get to the point of getting to postseason play then he got hurt and then you made a point to be a great teammate and help out adam wainwright wainwright wouldn't be wainwright. Well that's true. He wouldn't have struck out. They opened the door for him. You mean it's like what is it. You're hurt okay so you you need to wear that and understand that you're a huge part of that championship and a huge part of that run you should do it and i do believe i might wear my back to back triple layerings hiring zone. You can wear the oh four chelsea s. ring to we went back to back and aaa the last two years. I've been there so i might wear those. That's all right but you shouldn't feel that away and i wish you would change your mindset on that. We'll see do it. Maybe maybe i'm going to wrap it up with this question as it sinks and going into the saint louis cardinals hall of fame. What have the fans meant to you in this journey along the way good and bad aw they they they're. They're the they're the reasons that you get fired up. You know when the when the bullpen door opens up and they cheer it feels like when you're in your hair is on fire and you just want to do everything you can in the world to get that out to hear them cheer again you know but in that same sense when the door opens they start booing because you've had a bad week you kinda just hope the first pitch is a strike you live and die with the fans. I mean that's and it's their job up to cheer you on and boo boo. You're doing bad because you deserve it. I mean that's just part of it. I mean there's no other job in the world besides professional sports sports like i don't go into someone's office and boo them when they put in a bad report or something like that yeah. That's why we get paid to redo. That's why we have broad broad shoulders just jump on my back and let's have a good ride and we do it for the fans and we do it for the fans and we do it for the guy next to us our teammates. One one final you are the all time saves leader in cardinals history three hundred saves by the way you got to that magical milestone and then to put on on a red jacket and fans don't know this. I said to jason and asked him about it and he said you know this a couple years ago. I got a letter from baseball's hall of fame where i was on the ballot. You said you didn't get a vote and you said that was meaningful. Because you got to be really good just to be on the ballot. I mean you gotta be elite and you said even if i was to go to cooperstown that would be great but it's still wouldn't add up to putting on a red jacket being there on opening being days from now until the day you die. You know those those opening days to be there at every ceremony that welcomes in class where were this rank for you you putting on that red jacket and all the things you've been able to accomplish and what has been a terrific career. It's as anybody would be in the same position. I mean besides side your children and your family and things like that. I mean for my job which was playing baseball. This is the ultimate dream i mean. I don't i don't care about cooperstown. I mean and i grew up here as a cardinal fan to put on that red coat means everything i mean i believe for me to be able to stand up there with ozzie and willie and bruce and lou brock rock in stand before he passed in red before he passed to be in that same group b. mentioned with those names edmunds and carpenter ueno yadi audience a few years hopefully not but you know they're going to be in. I mean it's that fraternity with that red coat. It's just something that you can never replace in my grandkids grandkids in my grandkids kids. That's something that i can always be proud of and nobody will ever be. I'll take that away from me. You earned it. You deserve it. Cardinals hall the famer jason isringhausen awesome stuff. Thank you thank you are you ready for the boys of summer. Well pulled up a front row seated potshots sports bar and grill for all the cardinals action this season at one of their eleven area locations during every cardinals game. 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Jeff Passan on MLB Offseason Scandals

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Jeff Passan on MLB Offseason Scandals

"This has been healthier for months. During roy has known about this for months and so what he is saying by not doing anything about as i still want him. I still want tony larussa. He has the listen now to the community in chicago and find out what they are saying. And i suspect a lot of them will say something like this. How can you manage your team when he can't manage himself. It's not the first time it's the second time we learned this week about not the first but the second drunk driving arrest for tony larussa. The newly rehired white sox manager at age seventy six. Mlb insider jeff passan broke the larussa arrests story and today he breaks it down alongside a flurry of other key. Hires that say a lot about who gets a second chance in baseball. and why. I'm pablo tori. It's thursday november twelfth. This is espn daily jeff. Before we start here i actually do want to clarify. This has any other tony. Larussa news broken in the last few minutes. Because we're getting to the point. Where any number of headlines seem plausible to be so mike twitter. Dmz pablo have been open for four years. Now that's dangerous jeff. Passan isn't espn. Baseball insider and he has many many many followers on twitter. It's really dangerous and it was this very like non idea in my mind that some day some random kind soul on twitter which which itself it seems like something of of a fallacy. This random kind soul on twitter is going to slide into my. Dm's with the story that i'm going to be able to use and i cannot tell you the number of gigabytes of absolute gifted through over the last four years waiting for one little tip that actually came true. And that's how i first heard about the tony larussa d you. This came to you because someone slid in to your dangerously open twitter in box. That is accurate there was. There was a lot of legwork to be done. Because i've i've got another tips in the past. You know look out for this. Look at there was one guy. There's a guy on baseball. Twitter name mr sugar and it was not him early. Yes but it was. It was someone in the in the mr sugar over and that was the closest i come until this point. Let me tell you i. I don't know that the tony larussa information has come to a complete it yet. i tremble. At what. Mr sugar has in store but jeff. I do want to catch people who are not familiar with this story. And all of its detail and i guess just tell us what happened here with tony larussa and his second. Dui yeah let's go back to two two thousand seven in march of two thousand seven. Tony larussa who is an at the time was one of the most successful managers in baseball. History fell asleep at the wheel at a traffic light in jupiter florida and was charged with misdemeanor. Dui and eventually pleaded out and apologized and said this will never happen again and this year February twenty four th at eleven forty pm Near the phoenix international airport. A driver on state route one forty three called the police and said there's a car on the side of the road that was swerving around hit a curb and is now smoking. An officer was dispatched to the scene and found tony. Larussa standing there on the phone talking to triple a. And said what happened and tony larussa. According to the incident report that was filed said. I blew a tire and went into his car to to get his. Id was fumbling through a wad of cash and other cards and Actually passed his. Id twice before you recognize that it was it and i handed the handed the id to the officer. Tony larussa response after the field sobriety tests which the officer said. He failed when he asked him if he would take a portable breath test was. I don't trust it out followed. By what makes you think. I don't have control of my facilities now when you're talking about control of your faculties and you say control of your facilities. Maybe you don't have control of either and tony. Larussa ended up blowing into the breathalyzer. Blue point zero nine zero just above the legal limit of zero eight and was arrested but as he was going into the car he looked at the officer and said to him. According to the police report. Do you see my ring. I'm a hall of famer baseball person. I'm legit. I'm a hall of famer brother. You're trying to embarrass me. The most embarrassing part of this situation is not just the fact that for the second time Somebody in in a great position of power and influence has made the choice to drive drunk. It's how the chicago white sox have been absolutely silent on the matter and and have said that they knew about this and that they're not going to say anything about it which which has been extremely curious because this was such a a surprising higher in the first place. Tony russa being nine years removed from a major league. Dugout being seventy six years old In age when you do not see managers come back to manage a but but more than that. It was the fact that tony larussa was hired because ryan store the chicago. White sox owner has long regretted firing him more than thirty years ago. Felt like it was his greatest mistake. An even bigger mistake. Then breaking up. The michael jordan era bulls hold jeff. I'm still wrapping my mind around everything you just said because i understand how tempting it is to hire as tony larussa put it a hall of famer baseball person. But what you've just said about jerry reinsdorf that makes me wonder if jerry reinsdorf has control over his actual facility like what is happening in this organization chaos and disappointment. Pablo when you look at what the chicago white sox have done in rebuilding their organization absolutely magnificent for the first time in twelve years. The sox are going to the playoffs. You know when. They traded chris sale to the boston. Red sox they were essentially saying we are going to start over when they traded adamy to the washington nationals. You've got two guys on their team friendly contracts and getting rid of both of them in the prime of their career. It was a risk. It was a bold move but the white sox had yawn. Moncada back in the chris sale deal. They had tim anderson the dynamic shortstop coming up through the organization. They would go on to sign. Luis robert who just won a gold glove as a as a rookie and like a like a four hundred million foot home run in the playoffs this year against days. Maybe no more exciting young player in the big leagues luis. Robert is not a finished product. He drills one the left field and tosses the bat aside my goodness. Where will it. Land a up and outta here titanic. Home run from the rookie. Luis robert day. They signed yes. Monte grondahl dallas kaikal to round out their team. they signed jose guy who Very well could win the american league. Mvp awards. i mean they. They have put together an exciting fun dynamic teen. It's the fact that tony larussa given all of that exciting youth within the white sox organization seems like maybe v. last person you'd want in charge of it and it goes deeper than just the generational age gap. I mean tony larussa in two thousand sixteen very famously said in response to adam jones calling baseball quote an elitist white man's game. I have great respect for adam jones's a player and person but when he says it's a white elitists kind of sport i mean how much wrong or can he be. There was also the position. He took against capital in that same interview in two thousand sixteen. I really distrust knicks. I was here in the bay area when i was a star. A real star. I never once saw him do anything but promoting himself and all of a sudden now. He's a second stringer in got this mission onto. I don't trust the sincerity. And this was all when he was the gm of the arizona diamondbacks so jeff logically. Speaking was this consideration that these exciting fun. Young players on the white sox. Maybe don't see that. As particularly amenable to their interests. This was not a logical higher. This was an emotional higher. This was a higher to write a long ago committed wrong. This was a higher of a friend. This was cronyism. this was adam jones's words personified with very person who criticize them. I am all for the idea that somebody can learn and somebody can evolve and somebody can grow in bruce maxwell who himself famously was the only baseball player to kneel around the time. That colin kaepernick. An eric reid and so many in the nfl. Were doing though. bruce. Maxwell vouched for tony larussa. He said we had a good conversation. And i believe that he's changed. He came out in his introductory press conference in said essentially. I am a changed man. There's been a lot goes on in a very healthy way. Since two thousand sixteen. I applaud and support addressing identifying the injustices and as long as peacefully protested and sincere when your protests actually have action oriented results. Way that you're going to impact to make things better. I'm all for it. If tony larussa does keep his job and that seems like the likely route because jerry reinsdorf values loyalty over absolutely everything. It's going to be an awkward situation for him. And there's a lot of work to do to get the clubhouse onboard. Tim anderson last week said tony. Larussa hasn't called not great. Bob i was gonna ask about tim henderson in specific jeff because he has become the face of like this almost cultural revolution in baseball around having fun and you know showing things like emotion joy and competitive streaks in ways that may make people have certain age uncomfortable. Tim anderson is black. How important is it for larussa to come around or prove that he's come around on this subject of quite frankly race relations. I think that will be the difference between him being a successful manager and one who spends one year here and says. I'm not gonna do this anymore. I think fat as long as someone like jerry reinsdorf owns a team. And lemme. lemme say this jerry. Reinsdorf is not donald sterling. Jerry reinsdorf is not somebody who who i think has those those just awful bones in his body. I think jerry reinsdorf is as old school as it gets in this case though man i it's it's just a very simple thing. He thought his friend was going to be best person for the job and his friend got the job. Simple as that. I want to be fair to larussa as much as i can hear. Jeff have you got a chance to speak to the man has. Espn reached out to him. What has he said if so we did reach out to him before we published the story and his response was i have nothing to say and he hung up the phone coming up be. Mets introduced their new boss and the houston astros signs dealing scandal. 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And it was everything from steve cohen in his forty five minutes sounding as much like a guy who's going to call the michael kay show and talk about the mets and talk about them in an exciting fashion and forty five minutes from sandy alderson. The team president that he hired unrestrained and sandy alderson remember was president of the mets under their former owners. The wilpon family. I don't know if it seemed like he had a muzzle on in all times. But sandy alderson is is a very impressive person. You know somebody who has won a championship. Somebody who was a marine somebody who has a code and Away that he goes about things and speaks about things That's just really impressive. And when he was with the mets felt like he had a restrictor plate Sandy alderson was going like one hundred fifty miles an hour and he. He seemed so happy because what he's about to do is embark on the building of a juggernaut. And that's what's so exciting as somebody who covers this sport somebody who appreciates great stories about the new york mets right now. We're about to see in real time. What happens when you take dysfunction and theoretically tried to turn it into function and the mets have everything at their disposal right now because steve cohen is worth fourteen billion dollars in steve cohen does not by his words seemed to care a whole about making profits from his baseball club. You know i'm not trying to make money here. I have my business point seventy two. I'm you know. I'm i'm making money over there so here it's really about building something. Great building something fans winning. I just find this an amazing opportunity. And i you know i'm so excited for it. He's here to win championships. And that is just the total opposite of what the mets have had. In the past. When i asked steve during the zoom conference you know what what team out there do you look at it and say i appreciate how they go about things his answer was the dodgers with the dodgers are doing. I think that's one team that easily. You know seems to make the mark in type of places that i i want to do the same and i don't think that was just because they want a world series championship a couple of weeks back. I think it's because they really do things the right way. They spend money. They prioritize player development and drafting and international free agents. And they're not taking a year off their goal. Every single season is to win a championship. And they're going to exhaust themselves doing. So yeah i wanna get into this notion of of what kind of a character. Steve cohen is because part of that caricature of you know being the real life. Bobby axelrod part of it is rooted in a part of it is in this fact. That steve cohen paid one point. Eight billion dollars. Jeff in insider trading fines in two thousand thirteen running. Sac capital one of the famed hedge funds in the world of finance. What kind of a guy is this. What's the what's the what's your understanding of how he is as person i think we're about to find out there have also been gender discrimination complaints against his firm and You know the alleged mistreatment of of women and and it was interesting to hear him talk about what he wants. The mets organization to be like i want professionalism integrity. I'm not gonna put up with maybe the type of stuff that has happened in other places and i want to hire the best and brightest create a great farm system develop our players and also. Let's not forget the fans when when they interact with me at at the stadium or on our media platforms wherever that. Their experiences is extraordinary. Now a couple of things to unpack their professionalism integrity not putting up with type of stuff. That's happened in other places sounded like a little shot at the astra. Yeah but but also let's get to the point that he made at the end. He talked a lot about the fans like he grew up a mets fan. He's been a mets fan he. He speaks the language of mets fans. You know for the last thirty four years without a championship. He's been frustrated as a mets fan. And i think what kind of guy he is. It to mets fans almost feels immaterial at this point. I think they look at steve cohen as an absolute savior and that whatever he may have done as a hedge fund manager doesn't matter because he's going to sign george springer. Trevor bauer yet. Speaking of the cost benefit analyses that baseball fans in baseball teams run when it comes to ethical questions. I do not wanna let the funniest news. Dump of the century pass by on analyze jeff because last friday morning literal minutes after it got announced. I believe that the state of pennsylvania had maybe just changed. the outcome of the presidential election. News was leaked that the boston red sox were bringing back. Alex cora batted. You're the man who led them to a world series in two thousand eighteen and as the bench coach of the astros in two thousand seventeen was the alleged architect of the whole trash can banging scandal. So did any of this seem coincidental or surprising to you. I mean i just thought everything in the world. That was bad was going to come out after the election on tuesday and they were going to try and ride the ride. The wave with everybody's attention diverted but in in boston. This was a really big deal and this was. This is an extremely popular. Move among red sox fabs. He's the guy who's who's young fiery who's Just somebody i think they all look to as as almost the air to terry francona in a guy who if you're in boston he means everything to you. They are essentially saying what major league baseball teams pablo have said about players who cheat who have used performance enhancing drugs for going on two decades. Now which is welcome back. Well the other figure in this astros scandal coincidentally gm jeff luneau. I mean that guy got fired in the wake of all the controversy as we know and this week. Jeff he's just filed a lawsuit against the astros claiming that his dismissal was part of this deal between the astros owner. Jim crane and mlb commissioner rob manfred and that deal supposedly is what let houston keep that 2017 world series trophy that he and alex cora one so lay out the legal soap opera here for me. What's at stake with this lawsuit. Jeff luna had signed a contract extension through two thousand twenty three and a guaranteed him. I believe thirty one million dollars nine million of which had been paid twenty two million of which was left. And that's what he is suing the astros for at this point. Twenty two million dollars that he feels like He had unfairly taken away from him by his firing with 'cause now jeff luna continues to propagate the idea that he did not know about the sign stealing scandal and he's he points to the the evidence that major league baseball laid out in. It's what he uses the term quote investigation on because he thinks the whole thing was a complete sham. It's him trying to say. I didn't know but not addressing the fact that he probably because if you are in charge of an organization's baseball operations farming and you don't know that your baseball team cheating. Are you not doing your job. It's a totally valid question. Jeff and the other person who just got a new job that you mentioned before is aj hinch so. He's the third leg of this tripod. I wanted to discuss with you here. He was invited to interview by the detroit. Tigers apparently thirty minutes after the world series ended so that second chance that's just an undervalued asset because hey people are afraid of hiring this guy and therefore we have an opportunity to use him to our benefit. I think ultimately it comes down to how does one handle himself in the wake of scandal jeff. Luneau ended up taking the path of militaristic action. He came out firing and he came out. alleging that major league baseball was essentially pulling a scam on the public. And he says these things without providing evidence that there was other nefarious activities but at the same time pablo. I'm not gonna sit here and say that there weren't like it is it is eminently possible that more teams were cheating and trust me. I have heard plenty of allegations. About how other teams she i. You know. I haven't been able to get the kind of evidence necessary to print them and in that threshold is extraordinarily high. Which is what makes ken. Rosenthal in evan drellich story so fascinating in hindsight like they got a guy on the record talking about arguably the biggest cheating scandal and one hundred years in baseball. That is something right there. and jeff luna's reputation in baseball. It was as somebody who thought he was the smartest guy in the room in in maybe he was but he was also the guy who would tell you. He's the smartest guy in the room and that is the way that he has been treated. I'm not gonna say. He's been blacklisted. But their gm jobs open that he has has not gotten a sniff. At and i think that's because of the way that he carried himself because of this reputation that he has And that to me is the big difference between aj. Hinch alex cora and jeff luna jeff did a very careful and principal job in explaining the high threshold for evidentiary credibility that we should all have when investigating allegations. I just hope that if he's out there listening that mr sugar is not deterred. Listen my dm's are open and he got cheating allegations. Anybody who's got evidence by all means slide on. Thank you for joining us on. Espn daily always a pleasure problem. Thank you are coming up easy. I has made her college commitment. So katie barnes explains who she is and why this is such an enormous deal. There are a lotteries to like. At and t. Five g for example. Lisa who's a professional race car driver and base jump wing suit enthusiasts. At five g because it's fast and then there's terry who's a bodyguard who once wrestled a hyena when it got too close to his client on safari terry likes. At and t. Five g because it secure and take sasha who is a librarian and hasn't missed a day of work in twenty seven years. Not even that time. She broke both her legs and had the measles she likes. At and t. five g because it's reliable switch to at and t. five g it's fast secure and reliable and now it's nationwide five g. It's not complicated. Five g requires a plan. Five g may not be in your area see. At and t. Dot com slash. Five g for you for five g. coverage details. Here's another story. I want you to know. I'm easy side. Today is my eighteenth birthday and it is also the day that i will be telling an announcing to you guys. My college decision. You may not know the story of as fudd but you will soon in women's basketball you point out of washington. Dc is a prospect unlike any other the first sophomore ever to be named the gatorade national girls basketball player of the year a two time. Gold medalist with team. Usa the number one women's basketball player in the class of twenty twenty one and yesterday on her eighteenth birthday easy announced so. I decided that i will be attending three years. The university of connecticut our own katy. Barnes has been reporting on foot for a while now working on a longer profile. That'll be out in the coming months. But i wanted katie to explain to us what this news means for. Asia and women's basketball at large so katie is joining the greatest and most storied women's college basketball program in the country. The university of connecticut huskies. I'm curious what kind of impact do you think she's going to have as a freshman. What kind of clare is she. What style point guard is she. How is she going to fit into this team. So easy is expected to have an immediate impact. Of course she is going to be joining a really loaded. University of connecticut team can have a lot of young talent and a lot of guard talent. So it's going to be a very competitive space for her to be in. I'm as a guard. She could play both the one and the to. She has good sized. she's quick. She's a great shooter. Great score so they're sort of looking at her as being a jack of all trades for them in that way and for defense also typically underrated but she takes great pride in. Yeah if you've never seen easy fudd play basketball. How would you describe what you'd be watching. A real dominance but one that's flashy you know she just makes shots she makes plays and she has the ability to take over a game. But it's not something that a similar to our best friend who's a freshman at the university career page bekker's who's very flashy In you an easy is not like that at. Aw instead she's going to lock down your best player. She's going to make the right play every time down the court and suddenly you look at her stat line. And she's had a double double and he didn't even realize it was happening. So how difficult do you think this choice was. I know that it was very difficult. I think there's a temptation to sort of look at the facts as you laid them out. Nearest connecticut is this great program. Her best friend already plays there. Obviously this was the choice that was always going to be made that it was inevitable. And it wasn't you know. When i did a piece about page bekker's last year and i talked to easy for that. She made it very clear that she loves playing against page as much as she loves playing with her. The decision making process really weighed heavily on both her and her family. Her dad described to me. How easy kind of retreated from him over the last year They weren't having a lot of these conversations as it was hard. I want to turn to the big picture for a second year because the twenty twenty season is coming off. This phenomenal degree of attention on players. Like sabrina and those records he broke across the college game. And we've also seen the audience for the wnba grow this year in a way that was surprising to many people so easy decision getting a certain amount of spotlight on it. It does feel like part of this evolution of the women's game. How does she factor into the future of that sport. It's very clear that was basketball is having a moment and easiest decision as far as future of women's basketball. She's a part of this generation that grew up with social media. She already has a large amount of followers on instagram. She's already so plugged into not just the women's basketball landscape but the entirety of basketball in general and because they're such a groundswell of interest in women's basketball in general. Easy is gonna really plug right in there. And as long as she has the kind of career that people expect a her and she expects herself. I don't think this is going to be in the last time. But i'm talking to you about as inside no katie barnes. I hope to talk to you again as you continue your reporting but for now thank you so much for telling us exactly how big all this news really is driving me baba i can. I can even explain how excited i am to be going to yukon or two assigned to uconn and be there next year the next four years. I'm pablo torre and this has been. Espn daily talk to you tomorrow

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Hour 1: Harden and Westbrook Want Out of Houston?

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Hour 1: Harden and Westbrook Want Out of Houston?

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Brought to you by straight talk wireless hardin westbrook making noise. What's going on with the leadership in houston. One thing you can say about daryl. Morey and mike d'antoni then tony's never wanna championship but by playing the most efficient possible style. Maybe he was too doctrinaire about it. Right doctrinaire means you go buy your philosophy sort of no matter what you have to be ideologically pure about it and maybe it was a little bit too much with not only gonna place the highest yielding bets. We'll place the most highest yielding bets. Three point shots free throw line. Maybe they had to be a little more diverse in the offense. I don't know. All i know is they never had the most talent but a couple years ago with a golden state. Warriors team with a healthy steph clay k. d. and draymond green not to mention they had a dollar on that team all those dudes know who had home court for game seven. The western conference finals the rockets and if not for the worst shooting performance in the history of basketball rockets would have beaten. The war is not possible how you beat that. Warriors team d'antoni's system. And by the way. Daryl morey constructing that team daryl. Morey is gone and dan. tony's gone and the players on the rockets the best players. Hardening westbrook like whoa. What's going on harden westbrook by themselves are not good enough to get past lebron. Add they weren't good enough to compete with that warriors team. They should have never been competitive yet. Because of daryl. Morey and mike d'antoni they were you say live by the sword. Die by the sword live by the analytics die by them right and and this is the. This is the kind of danger of playing that way. What if the whole team goes cold from three. Well i would say if the whole team including the leader of the team and james harden goes cold from three in game seven and your second. Best player chris. Paul isn't available. yeah you might lose by single digits. D'antoni had some bad luck. I think harden and players played for him realize that that he put them in a better position to win than anyone else are. They headed out of houston they out and where should they go. Eight save espn. I loved the idea of harden on. Excuse me harden westbrook on the clippers. Chris paul is a great fit. Wherever but i love the idea of westbrook on the clippers. Because he's a more of a team player. I think people realize paul. George had his best season with westbrook as point guard. And the real issue. The clippers have right now is no one dynamic off the bounce knowing pushing the temple too much kind of half court basketball. You think about westbrook. Patrick beverley can shoot the three in place in defects and westbrook. Can't shoot. but you think about westbrook with with paul george and you've been thinking about the personalities. Westbrook was a mismatch with k. D. because he had the alpha personality but katie was better. Coup is not worried about alpha beta. This why does his thing. And if westbrook can make help make paul george look the way. He did a couple of years ago. What can you help co. Why do the poultry both high volume. High percentage scores right. They touch the ball and they score at a high inefficient percentage and they both play. Defense straight talk wireless. No contract no compromise meantime. Doug peterson eagles head coach. Finally response to what brett farve said on. I take the stephen a. And molly yesterday that by the way. Look if you into the show at all. You know that i've gone. It carson wentz a bunch. Because not because i think he's the worst quarterback in the world i think he was being overrated. And i think he's overpaid understand. Every football player earns deserves a lot. More generates a lot more revenue than they get paid. But there's a salary cap so the reality is you got rob peter to pay paul in the nfl right so if you give carson wentz one hundred million you're not going to have some holes in other places carson wentz play going to have to elevate the team and make up for those holes. He has not done that. And he's injury prone and because he's like even mcnabb was benched. You know what happened that same season the nfc championship game. Which these do every year back. Then but wednesday's not held accountable. Turn the ball over thirteen times in the first eight games. In eagles territories not held accountable. That's why after the last after the last game he comes out at the post game press. Or hey maybe. I'll never know the fine line between went to extend the play and went to eat it. You know. it's just that's just kind of going to haunt me for the rest of my career and have to deal with but that's the way we play around here. Oh you sure you sure all your teammates to play that way you pick the fans you sure about that carson wentz holding you back from being better quarterback from being naturally good quarterbacks that of middle of the pack guy and usually by year five if they haven't figured it out ain't good figure it out you still waiting for jay cutler to put it all together waiting for a longtime forgive forever for carson. I think so. Brett farve comes on. I take says. I haven't gone with nick foles. I will remind everyone. Nick foles who was a strutted arizona. Nick foles who the first time. He had a chance to start when eight and two to twenty seven touchdowns to two interceptions for chip kelly. Then he wound up in a bad spot with jeff fisher and then wound up there. We went back on. The eagles led them to the super bowl. Carson wasn't playing in those playoffs bulls and then the next year they were dead in the water. Full takes over for once again and injured carson. Wentz the team catches fire. They win a playoff game. They're supposed to lose it. Soldier field they almost the same thing at new orleans then then falls finally gets paid so he goes to jacksonville. They're terrible falls is not the kind of guy. Like wentz. who who's talent maybe can like makeup for some deficiencies is the kind of guy. Where if you give him what he needs. He can operate your team for you and come through under pressure so far said i'm surprised they didn't go is foles peterson. Anything for like a day and then finally said no. The gm said winston and the owner says wentz. And i say went really coach. Because what i hear understand i talk to people and what i hear is wentz's never really run. Peterson's offense he has way too much power on the team and in the offense and changes a lot of stuff. Hard for peterson to operate. Under those circumstances however okay. He's back in his guy up. I don't think how men's backing up if howie roseman. Were backing up. Why draft a quarterback in the second round if wentz was thirty. Three okay fine. What's he did that dressing quarterback in the second round me. Ask you this. Wentz's contract was coming up now. You think they give them another one hundred million. I don't i agree with brett. Farve i don't think doug peterson telling the truth. Actually eighty eight say espn roj. My screen is completely blank. I have no rundown in front of me. Well we have a rundown but you you just win you know you caught an audible like brett farve and then you just did something totally different. So now i have to vamp for for ryan clark blanks. And that's fine but even when you're doing the rundown you always have to have something in front of me for example so i know if there's someone on the line because right now awkward amount of time. There's like a minute and a half before ryan clark. I've come to a conclusion on my went point. I'm saving my larussa stuff for the next block as we discussed. Maybe i wanna take a phone call. Maybe i want to lewd or refer to another point. That's coming up later in the show. But if i have a blank screen roj matlock. Weren't we weren't too happy about that. So we decided to leave it blank andrea massachusetts. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio you doing. Max thanks for taking my call. Listen that's still. Houston made a notable mistake in terms of letting mike d'antoni go and i'm gonna tell you why. Look in terms of the playoff Mistakes mishap atlanta championships. Fine but people forget james harden one one. Mvp finished second twice and third once and the mvp race under mike d'antoni leadership afford the antoni comes to people. Forget james harden was not everybody's best friend he wasn't a beloved guy and houston. They were game winning shots. Whereas teammates celebrate mike d'antoni and his offense and him saying listen. James harden is not a to. He's a point guard. he's a quarterback. Let him run my running shoe if you will seven seconds or less offense. Let's see what happens. That's when james harden's career took off. Okay st adidas merchandise and all took off. It was under mike being tony and forget about. I agree with you about that and steven i debated. I thought it was a good idea to make a point guard. Steve debated about that originally going back. A couple of years but forget about what it did for harden. Look at what it did for the team. The rockets played a game seven at home against a warriors team. It was so loaded cheated like they played the cheat code and lebron before their series was like nothing. I could do with these guys. Basically and got stopped. But that warriors team with k. D. and and steph and clay and dre an iggy all healthy that warriors team had to hit the road for a game seven at houston and houston didn't even have chris paul available to them their second best player and they were so overmatched in terms of talent. What would they do and playing a home game and they should have won that game. They had the worst shooting night from three in the history of basketball. Basically at one point. I think they missed twenty-seven street shots. There's something like one for twenty something like that from three. What is ridiculous. and they lost by single digits. Mike d'antoni with the sons had. They not been all those objections. Probably beat the spurs win the championship that year. This dude has gotten close. And guess what he's never had. He's never had the team. The most talent ryan clark joins us now shell pennzoil. Performance line are sell my god. What's going on. We got a lot of football cover right now. I don't know where so much so much going on. You know what. Let's start with cam. Because actually i agreed about this on the show today on i take today. How cam has to play. Does he sell out to be the best version of himself. Even though it risks his future what do you say about that. I do max back. I think this is it for. Can i think this is his opportunity to show that he could be the reason why a team wins again. I mean we all understand that they don't have the weapons on the outside of this team is talented and some of the other teams. We've seen the patriots have but can't leave is that x. factor. I think so. Many people do reason we thought that would be a good place for him to go because they could use them in the run game he could also be a guy that gets out of the pocket in play action it can make plays with his legs or arms and right now you know there are a couple of plays away from being the winning team or at least being five hundred so if you're doing the patriots you understand okay. We gotta use camp to the maximum potential and that means running the football account. I mean maybe him being your need goal line. Russia your lead short yardage russia and also being able to make the plays in the passing game. And if he doesn't do that. I believe it's over for him now. You know what the patriots season but for him. I like that you make. Because there's something about camp situation where everything's dove tailing in terms of doing the right thing. Now it's like in the fight game ryan a lot of times. The blueprint the interest of the fans and the interest of the fighters are diametrically opposed to the fans. Want to see you tested in a tough fight but the fighter. If you're a fighter's manager. You're like i want this guy to suffer little damage as possible. Make as much money as possible right minimize risk maximize reward and a lot of times. You could say well. Football's the same way. You have to be irrational. You have to into the sacrificial thing irrationally because no one's going to help you on your bottom line later in your life if you have. Ct if your bank accounts light get your money but in camps case ryan cam you. You brought it up on the show. He's going to be if he tries to do someone else if he doesn't do him to the best extent that he can to the best to his best ability he's going to be sitting at home anyway. One hundred percent you know. And that's how. I see it if he tries to be something else if he tries to preserve themselves to have a longer career. It'd be put in a better position long term. Then he won't be a football player anymore and and maybe it's about your priorities if his priority. Is you know what. I wanna do this. A certain way so that. I have healthy the next the smart thing to do. But i don't think he can do that and continued being an nfl starting quarterback for any teams in the nfl to pass on it right. Pick of how his fortunes could shift. I keep bringing it up on. The show is brought up to plays this year. Seattle goal line bills when he got stripped. And he's five three with four great winds right and he is. Cam should keep an mvp. You can't judge him by traditional stats that kind of stuff instead. It's like maybe careers over as a starter like these this second half of the season right now. So the variables like the swing is so great for him. The story of this season could either be. Oh my god look at. How cam matured. Look at how he sacrifice i team look at. His teammates saw that followed him. Look at how. He took the patriots from looking like dead in the water to contending for a playoff spot or it can be cams four him anymore like what. I can't remember a player given camps age accomplishments yet coming off injury with this level of uncertainty at this point in his career can you. I can't think of an example. That's alert this now. You really can't especially at that position. Usually you accomplish some of the things. That cam newton has you kind of have a get out of jail. Free card teams are gonna continue to recycle you. He's going to continue to use you to they feel like you're us all the way up. But i think what we see is maybe because of camps injury maybe because his style of play that they like he's used up already and i think some of the things we've seen throughout the season which i agree with you can't play the exact same way. But he gets into the end zone and seattle hold onto the ball against buffalo. I think we're speaking of the differently because you can't judge by traditional stats. But you can't judge him by his effect. He has on the game and wins and losses and leasing. Those games hurt him. Because you do look at the traditional way of playing that position ryan orlowski said yesterday and i had also said the bills may be the biggest threat to the chiefs at this moment in the afc. If the playoffs started right now. Who do you think's the biggest threat to the afc verse of i think for many reasons. You is probably believe buffalo but we all see the quarterback a little differently. I don't think. I don't know if you can't beat patrick mahomes without having the dude who believes he's better than patrick mahomes and not necessarily delusion other words. Yes no listen i had. I was talking about a player in the league with chris law and he takes me back and he goes. He's one of my favorites teammates of all the time because he's the competent right basically saying that he thinks he's a lot better than he is and so sometimes he competes in plays in that way. I watch his birthday girl at the end of the game. They'll be scared. That patrick mahomes is on the other side. He doesn't feel like you know what i have two championships. I two super bowls. We've watched him make plays wildfire season. That team has the best defense in the afc. So i believe. They'll make patrick mahomes and the kansas city chiefs worked to score points. And i believe offensively vacation than trouble and they have a quarterback who make big plays. It's ended up the games because think about the only time he's ever seen patrick mahomes lose in the playoffs. He was playing the greatest quarterback of all time. And it still took one of his guys to lineup. Offsides in order for that to happen. Yeah i always that a team. Like i know you're a fight fan. So a student of it of combat. Sports i always think of a fighters and teams with overwhelming offenses as becoming overrated antique. Because mediocrity can't do anything with an overwhelming offense they just get steamrolled but well roundedness doesn't share the same against mediocrity doesn't look as dominant the naked eye as just an overwhelming office so the greatest show on turf loses to the patriots but you never knew the patriots were great until they did that they had to a felix trinidad loses to hopkins. But you never would have thought how hopkins was better to trinidad till you saw them. Together because hopkins who's well rounded trinidad was a steamroller right. Pittsburgh reminds me of that. Pittsburgh may be the kind of team that needs another great team where you can really see everything. They can do both sides of the ball but against just whatever kind of like it also ran team. You're not gonna be blown away by the steelers. you may be right. They may pose the greatest risk to the chiefs for that reason. They're actually well rounded the steelers. I think but you know how it is to those. You know max. You know those type of fighters you're talking about you. Know they may be thirty one or thirty two but people always find ways and reasons to pick adam and pick them and then when they get that big win now you look at their record and its totality and you respect they become hall of famers and i think that's kind of what the pittsburgh steelers still are what they've done and i said this on get up is everybody has a bad day right. The kansas city chiefs had a bad day. Against the las vegas raiders and they lost and we all believe that they're the best team in football. Well the pittsburgh steelers display no matter who they play whether it's the browns Whether it's you know the baltimore ravens tennessee. Titans they've never had a day bad enough to lose a football game and that's difficult these in the miami. Dolphins are the only undefeated team to win the superbowl. Because it's hard to do. The pittsburgh steelers are that team. That could really give the kansas city. Chiefs fits in a playoff type situation. I'm glad we. And i got to talk steelers because i know you know you know you. Years ago were winning. You know winning with the steelers championship right. And and that's great and and contemporaneous at the same time. I was playing against the steelers in gm mode as gm in franchise mode using the giants. And i beat the steelers in the super bowl. This is going back probably about ten years. It was just simulating the games on on mad. But still i think that means that when you and i talked steelers there's some value for the audience. It's a great ryan clark. Ladies and gentlemen max kellerman show presented by progressive insurance cars homes boats motorcycles our visa more progressive dot com. Should the white sox have looked past. Tony larussa dui espn radio on siriusxm is where you need to be if you live and college football. We're talking live games. The latest rankings. Conference and team news analysis from experts like mark packer greg mcelroy. Ej manuel all leading up to championships specials and more take sirius xm with you and always have the latest college football info. You need listen right now on the siriusxm app or online at siriusxm dot com slash listen. Espn u. max kellerman. Show the podcast. Tony larussa as everyone commented at the time. Jeff passan sarahspain a lot of people at espn. Who commented on it. We're like this. An ideology hires julie. Essentially it was an idiotic higher jerry reinsdorf. I know you can hear me chicago. Reinsdorf pulled a really kind of arrogant move. He said to hell with what the fans want to hell with being competitive to hell with following the rules. I want to make myself feel better. Because i didn't want to let them guide regret letting him go in the first place. I want to hire back my guy. Who's a stupid stupid. Move by reinsdorf stealing of stupid. Here's michael wilbon on. Hold on before. I even get let let me let me let me not get ahead of myself tony. Larussa is being charged with the dui. It's not the first time in his life upon his arrest. He told the police are more hall of fame hall of famer baseball person. He flashed the ring it law enforcement who arrested in february till the mama hall of famer baseball person while being placed in the back of a cruiser. The incident report obtained by espn also showed larussa appearing in coherent and expressing mistrust in blood alcohol level tests. The white sox. Monday night that they were they wear of larussa pending charges which were filed one day before. The team officially hired him october. Nine twenty ninth. Think about this second. You have a million better candidates for the job. Larussa hasn't managed in almost a decade. This tony larussa. Who said about capper. Nick for years ago. If i if someone tries to do that on my team you know that he won't be allowed on the field. Shut up larussa. Who the hell are you. You can't tell a play play. Go out on the. That has nothing to do with your jurisdiction. You're representing my team shop. And then he had to walk that back he had to walk it back. He loved the idea of imposing the way he felt about political issues social issue on his club. Well that's not the place to make a political statement. Well if if by s- not standing for the flag you're making a political statement then by standing for it. You're also making a political statement so according to tony larussa it's okay to make a political statement. As long as it's his political statement wrong dummy. Not how it works. Now here's the thing. Tony russa's one of the best managers of all time. There's no denying it. The question is why number one. He's a very loyal guy and he gets a lot of loyalty that reciprocated. And that's a commendable personal quality. That is a commendable quality and a lot of times with people about with whom we don't agree about a number of things or whose moral fiber we call into question or whose behavior we question or intelligence. We question or whatever things about them. You don't like we can also acknowledge where they are strong and let some people may say hey personal loyalty when interferes with judgment or with ethical behavior is actually a bad thing but we all we have to acknowledge that we appreciate that as human beings that that's that's something that we find on some level to be emotionally satisfying and he appears to be a loyal guy and he's appears to reciprocate loyalty and that's one of the reasons. I think he was very good. Manager is one of the best in order to another reason. Might be not jack mcdowell. White sox cy young winner back in the day. Early nineties late eighties. Early nineties can't remember the exact year late eighties. Early nineties jack mcdowell won twenty games a couple of times and not only won the cy young. I think he finished in the top three. Maybe mid second in the cy young the year either before or after. He said that when he got to the white sox there was a system already in place left by larussa where they were stealing signs from center field by flashing a light. And in the manager's office there was a video monitor where they could zoom in and steal besides and the starting pitcher that they according to mcdowell was in charge of turning on the camera now larussa when he was asked about. This said we'll ask mcdowell if he was on those teams because larussa already left before mcdowell. Got their kind of kind of answer. Is that ask him no. He wasn't on the team. So how would he know. Do don't be slick don't talk slick don't talk slick tony yes or no. Did you do it or not. It's dude falling asleep. Inebriated member in his parked car. Going back on. How many years already. So that's cheating. And is there proof that tony larussa cheated. No according to jack mcdowell who's really making another point the point mcdowell's making some people are gone after and some people are given passes for the same behavior. Right we're outrageous some people steal signs. But what if it's tony larussa. Now that's one instance of cheating if it if it's true mcdowell seems to think it's true then larussa manager of the oakland as they were a juggernaut ever notice. How many guys hit on the oakland as some of whom had never hit before like that we all know was a flashpoint. Not the guys had juice before then but that was a big cheating team. Cheaters team can saco maguire. But you won there. Then he goes to saint. Louis you ever notice how many guys on those saint louis teams in the early arts. Two thousand five six eight whatever it was also hit like never before. These were good players. Saint louis had a stack team. They were loaded. Guys were having career offensive years. There and tony larussa manager. He's in chicago mcdowell. Says they steal sci. He's in oakland there. Obviously juicing and can seko's admitted it then he's in saint louis and everyone's offensive numbers. Jump up and this guy gets the white sox job. When he seems to be out of touch with his players he had to walk his cabinet cabinet comments back when he hasn't managed in a decade when they were much better choices than him he walks in with a dwi dui charge where he's trying to. He's trying to use his status as a as a hall of famer to get. He doesn't think the rules apply to him sign stealing juicing the their rules he doesn't think they apply to him but what he does. Think applies are unwritten rules. If he likes them he applies them to his players. You think it should be the white sox manager. Here's michael wilpon on tony. Larussa probably back out of the agreement that they have with tony. I mean being responsible and being accountable are seemingly to me anyway more necessary where we are in the culture now than ever before and it's not enough to be accountable and responsible for a baseball game when you explain yourself afterward real life circumstances account even more tony. Larussa comes off as particularly stupid in this case. And he's not. We know that know about a lot of baseball things. He's not. i don't know i've never talked to larusso. I don't know if he's smarter stupid. I don't know but he is an excellent baseball manager who has been accused as even as collateral kind of he was sort of collateral damage in mcdowell's talk but has been accused of cheating in more than one way in more than one instance in with more than one organization. Where at least that. Those teams cheated while he was the manager. What's he done in the intervening ten years except the an awful executive to get a job. A plum job to the white sox are loaded because reinsdorf is saying look. This is my shiny toy the white sox on the owner to hell with the fans to hell with trying to win to hell with fair play to hell with the law. How many do you is is the guy need. He's gonna. he's now. The manager of the white sox have fun chicago max. Kellerman show is brought to you by shell. V power nitro plus premium gasoline. Should the jets trade the number one pick if for when they get it. The max kellerman show the podcast max. Kellerman show on espn radio. Espn plus the espn app and sirius. Xm channel eighty and on your smart speaker. Eighty eight say espn seventy nine. Three seven seven six. You mentioned this earlier. Literature breath far thinks. The eagles should have gone nick. Foles over carson wentz because full foes shines better in the eagles system. No doubt but foles couldn't do anything with this eagles team with all the injuries. Either no quarterback foles is the guy if you have pass protection if you can run block if you have a running game if you ever see a defense all you need everything falls. Yes foles is a guy where if you put him on a loaded team not only can he manage and run your team properly. He will play big on third down. He will be big in the moment of truth he will get his teammates will believe in him and he and then he'll be able to lead he's the guy where if you're if you're ready he can put your over the top whence is more talented but is at this point. It's five if we're still saying what is he going to put it all together. The answer is probably never years. Wow all right. Hey listen to this todd. Mcshay taking listener todd. Hey man the jets are so bad. They should treat the number one pick son. I like i like greenies idea of training of trading darnold to the colts. I think that makes a lot of sense. Actually mad that i didn't think of it. I think that's a really good idea. Colts need a quarterback. the jets. we're gonna pick. I gotta take if you have a chance to get a special quarterback. I mean a special kind of mvp caliber player. You must take that. So yeah. See you later sam darnold. Hello trevor lawrence. If you're the jets of course grown up. Skip one or go here to cal cal. Who's mill once. A sizable contract for the lakers lakers. You're paying them. Well what is he. Doing for the lakers sizable contracts. For what is he in. Nacion are now doing sizable contract not to play basketball. He may have some other talent modeling. Kyle kuzma not getting paid to play basketball. Come on kyle kuzma. Maybe he is not an average mba player. But he's not an average starter. He's good enough to get minutes in the nba. he is he is not an amid. Pack starter. right. He's not a three star player. He's a two point. Seven five star player get paid. What the mid level exception. What is he talking about. Get paid by the way that said kyle go get your money right. Heard that thomas on one michael jordan. He just wasn't my competition. My focus on berg magic. Dr j. and kareem abdul-jabbar until i didn't realize mj felt about that. Way about me. You by net. Max not at all not at all but i will say this. He's not lying like just everyone keep in mind. When jordan came around the pistons were on top of the world. Jordan was not playing with another all star. The first time he played with another all star scottie. Pippen took the pistons. seven games. pippen got a migraine. They lost game seven next year. They came back. They swept the pistons. They never looked back they never. They won the championship every year throughout jordan's prime after that in under seven games so he wasn't jordan competition because no one was any competition for jordan. Zeke was the greatest little guy of all time hardened westbrook underway way out of. Houston max podcast.

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