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139: Release Day [Rebroadcast] & Special Announcement
"Is more than the policemen on the corner more than the courthouse where our laws enforced more than the jail where law breakers are punny. In your whole community, there are customs and moral code which guide your actions, what social controls affect you. I'm gonna call right now. I'm looking at the prison right now. I'm looking at San Quinton. This is life of the law. I'm Nancy Mullane. We have some really exciting news for you here at life of the law were looking to the future. And part of that future is a change. The changes I am stepping down as executive director of life of the law and Tony Gannon who you know as the senior producer is taking on the helm of life of the law and leading this project into the future. We're going to celebrate this change by going back into the archives and sharing episode. That was one of my favorite with you. The episode is called release day and it's the day that a man I met inside San Quentin actually was released and I'm there the morning. He's standing on the curb and we go together into the first hours of freedom. This is released day and I wanna thank everyone who has supported life of the law over the past six years, I've been D. And I wanna thank you all, forgiving, Tony, Gannon, all of you. Support as you go forward into the future together. Thank you. In nineteen Ninety-four voters in my state of California passed the three strikes law after that any person who had committed more than two felonies could get sentenced to twenty five years to life in prison over the years at packed, the state's prison system. But in November of two thousand twelve voters changed the law. Now, some of the prisoners sentenced under three strikes could petition to get out for time served. This isn't the story of all that this is the story of one inmate I met while reporting on all these changes to the three strikes law. And it's the story of one very important day for him. Well, Nancy, this is Curtis is calling on. Let you know that the I just got out about, I guess, ten minutes ago and that's San Rafael transit. I was hoping I could get in touch with you trying to get to the airport. So take your talk to you later. So go, give me your name. I'd met Curtis pen months earlier inside San Quentin, and we'd stayed in touch. He had no idea when or if he was getting out under the new law. In nineteen ninety six. He was sentenced to twenty nine years to life for commercial burglary seventeen years later on April fourth, two thousand thirteen. He was free. Time. Share the moment with you depend. I have to get the first of a man who's free. It's strange because after all these years I thought that I would be somewhat. Nervous, but I'm not nervous. I thought that would be some anxiety that how they assistant calm about me. All the inmates being released from San Quentin. We're putting a big van that morning and dropped off the local bus station. When I drive up Curtis, the standing on the curb, he's dressed in lycra sweats, he's got a big smile on his face, but he also looks stunned to be out in the real world this morning at five o'clock in morning. I was in my sale and and the officer walked by and just said, pin go, Yep, she goes Parolin quickly, kept walking and my Sally was like the sheet. Did I just hear what she just said? I said, I think so. All Curtis has with him as a crate. One of those plastic crates like milk carriers use, it holds everything. He owns in the world, got one bucks. I have my book bag. Bible in the air. I also have a lot of socks hair, grease, hairbrush, toothpaste, toothbrush, and eat about to face. I left my two-year a note about airports, and then I got some some school works. Hebrew brought back with me because I was studying Hebrew. That's it. That's your whole life. I don't own anything else. Yeah, it's kind of sad. It's simple. Yeah. I mean, you don't have a lot to carry. No, I do not. I do not have lots of care. You're you're right. I mean, you don't have to move a lot of stuff. You're free. I'm free. I could go anywhere in the world right now. Yeah, anywhere. But all Curtis has for an ideas, a flimsy, handwritten card with his name on it. This card, it's ticket charge card kept in your possession. The California prison system has an fell in New York prohibited from certain activities. The back. He's got that and a little cash. After all these years, they give you two hundred dollars to fifties. First time I touched the twenty money. Two years. That's all I have. If it was the fall out of my pocket, I had a hold on my pocket draw. It would change the whole dynamics of the situation without this money in my pocket. I made that feel much different than than that individual. I was homeless. The first thing Curtis forced to do when we get on the road is check in with his dad one. I don't. Yeah. The Curtis doesn't know how to use a cell phone. No, you don't have to listen. It's come through the earphones talk. Can you hear. Cellphones, how're you doing. No, actually a friend of mine pick me up. I just on that too. Failed transit. I'm in the car right now that. What she's taking me to get a duffel bag. This gonna take out the breakfast. I'm looking at the prison right now. I'm looking at San Quentin. We drive from Marin county where San Quentin is over the Golden Gate Bridge into San Francisco. There's so much to talk about so much to see what do you see standing here looking out. Obviously the vehicles I see the clouds, the trees and and. I just see fresh air. I see not stifled rust in bars and Bob wire. I see diversity, see people of different ages and different ethnicities and sizes and gender. You know, in prison, you see primarily males and primarily blackmails and I welcomed the diversity. I welcome the. Change. I see paternity. I see lots of opportunity every building. I see. And in stabbing, you know what I mean? I sit in myself opportunity for job somebody you can work there when I see trucks come by place, who knows? I may be working there sometime you know what I mean? Unloaded trucks or driving trucks or cabs, you know, just Sea World of opportunity. Sure. We pull up to a beach near the marina district. It just seems like the right thing to do. Give me the simple stuff. You know, we can just take. Take. Pleasure. Mongan you shoes. Look at that. Just beautiful. Like the fact that got out the first place I come to. It's the beach. Swimming in the beach all the time. Seaming. All that simple. I was thinking to just be alone for a minute. You haven't had any time? Yeah, it was. I was alone for about two hours. I care. What did you like to be alone? Right now, I don't care what you going to do. I'm just going to go sit over there. Just let you to yourself. You wanna do that just take five minutes or so I'll just sit over there. You just okay. Okay. Around a bit or what is going to be over there? All right. Watching Curtis walk alone on the Bay. I decide to forget about all the of the things I have to do. I've been following Curtis his case for five months today. He's free free, not even on parole, and I just wanna be here for him. These few hours. Thank you. Good. So what do you want do now? What are some breakfast? Yeah, that'd be great. I get a duffel bag. Yeah. All right. I hope that preventive being all. Take up your whole morning, very blessed. I was thinking we could go get you. Pair of jacket or something. If you. Breakfast. Yeah, where we go because I only work with so much money. I don't want to really spend too well. I can actually. Front you enough front, I could pay per pair of pants and a shirt really get on the bus. Looking? Yeah. What do you wanna do? It's up to you hungry. I'm let you decide. Really are you hungry? I'm not hungry. We can just hoping the coffee men go over their house that, okay, get a, get yourself a copy out. We just this is just a coffee shop. It's not a okay. I think you should probably eat a big meal right now. There's a lot happening fixed data. Toast good piece of good toast. I mean, really, you don't like. Water. Okay. You can have data. We go to cafe in San Francisco called the mill Curtis's very self conscious. He keeps worrying that people are looking at them after all guards have been looking at him for seventeen years, but no one here is looking at Curtis, they're all staring at their cell phones and computers. We still have a half hour to go before. Yes, to be at the airport. We go to upscale thrift shop. Curtis has to wear right now are gray sweats, hurry. Now. We literally a half an hour to get you close this on wall. This is on us. This is okay. You gonna pay you back. This is on me is just one of those things that gives me so much pleasure. They're no, we go, go ahead, just go and cross the street, go inside and find the men's departments. Okay, I'll be right there. I talked to put this. When Curtis comes out of the dressing room, he's changed. He shed the baggy sweats for charcoal grey wolf pants, and he's picked out a green sweater and businesslike leather jacket. He looks sharp. We drive to the airport, but when we get to the ticket counter, the attendant says his flight is booked for the next day. Curtis's dad made a mistake. I look at Curtis and he looks terrified. This is a big glitch when you're in prison for that long, when something goes wrong, anything goes wrong, you're in trouble. Curtis hands is discharged card to the airline employees. It's not the kind of ID card. They see every day. She stands in front of her computer typing for what seems like forever. Then she prints out a ticket and hands it to Curtis. He's on the flighty wanted. I don't know what else to say. Feel blessed. It is strange because it's like this is mitt to be. The set of the system is set up for you to be afraid to be fearful of the unknown. You know, coming out really assistant doesn't want people to help you. In which it get you two hundred dollars go back to the community in which you. Custom to and. Back to the same behavior. I called courtesy other day, eight months after the day he was released. I wanna hear everything that is happening in your life. Okay. I have found employment. I work now in Berkeley at a machine operator stealing options, transitional housing. They asked me to be a house manager, so place where I manage. Man, different sorters and whatnot. Able to in school districts, I was able to complete that was able to visit my children of thanksgiving. My children and my father. That's pretty much it for the most part. Hundreds of inmates like Curtis released from prison in California every day with two hundred dollars and flimsy, ID cards. Those first few hours after they're released are crucial. Who's able to offer them kindness, a Cup of coffee change of clothes. I'm lucky I could do it for just one guy, and I think a lot about that airline employees who got Curtis on the flight he needed. And what she said is he headed for the plane. Have a nice life. The law. I'm Nancy Mullane. This episode was edited by Julia Martin and produced by Caitlyn pressed a Lisa raw, Shannon, Heffernan, Jillian Weinberger, Katie Barnett, and Nancy Mullane music by Kyle Kaplan. Matthew Dr Todd MacDonald. This episode was produced with funding from the open society foundation special, thanks to Tom hill being. Hey listeners, we are still in high eighties as we put together our next episodes, we will be coming back to you with our newsletter and occasional audio update. In the meantime, if you have a story idea, comment Email us at connect at life of the law dot org, and you can sign up for newsletter at our website WWW dot life of the law dot ORG. You can also donate on our website. Just click support in the upper right hand corner to make a one time monthly or quarterly donation. Any amount helps nonprofit project of the tide center. Everything you go toward production of our stories. I am Tony Gannon. Thank you for listening.
Working @ Twitter
"Haven I'm honored twitter headquarters here in San Francisco. I'm university recruiter here. And I'm going around asking people what they love about working out twitter and I'm going to start with Mr Jordan Jackson. Hey how you doing kid. How are you so how do you like being an engineer here twitter? I'll love it actually. There's nothing rather be doing S.. Partly my one of my favorite things about being engineer. Oh my job I was Kinda like at a front desk or Pilots will come up and talk to me in requesting for me so now I could just throw my headphones and just co for like hours and just being my own little world when I was coming on during our new hire orientation. There was a man working here named Adam Bain had Adam and he had a little video and he was espousing the joys of how much bacon we serve here. That's my co tweet William William. He works in Ataur and he was just in his video with a plate of Bacon and I was like where is this fountain of Bacon and as it turns out we actually have. This cast asked iron skillet in our cafeteria that is just filled with Bacon. And it's there every day it's the Bacon skillet and it's you know. It just made me so so happy twitter's dedication to my bacon enjoyment and so I was. I was just really excited about that when I started working here. I mean obviously you know. There's like lots of fun. People but the Bacon welcome to building characters by at twitter you an inside view into launching a career in intact and how to have fun along the way. I'm your host Doodo meadow and this is our very first episode. y'All dedicated to unconventional backgrounds of tweets. That's how we call twitter employees and I'm going to bring William Jordan back to talk to us about what they did before four twitter and how they got a job here but before we do that I want to introduce you to my co host. This season hand. There's really hey what are you. Tell us what do you do too. I work in recruiting program manager. That sounds like fun. Yeah Super Fun. I was working with you and university and I just moved like a month ago. We had a great time doing university. Now I don't travel as much humans in those pointsman missing out on my travel points. So here's the thing you don't know about John before coming to twitter. He was doing something. Maybe Kinda SORTA. Let's just say different before twitter. I worked as a circus Acrobat for fourteen years which is a really long time to work in the circus. I think toward the circus aerial ropes and double tragedies mostly do you get into the you just find something on the newspaper like about one ED. I worked in film before circuits worked dancing theater and then circus last Oh holy performing career is Kinda Fun because you're a little product manager like you own. Your circus number. Is your product. Say Make this number you make the costumes. Let's get the costumes and the music. And the choreography new. Build this little number you film the Number Higher Viagra and photographers to film it for you and then you ship that video out okay. Here's my number. I could do this in your show circus or for your corporate event or for your cruise ships. Have you ever been like scared in any of your now. I don't do circus anymore after that anything that happens here. It's just like piece of Que. Did have like a job interview once and they're like so. How do you handle pressure? Well usually Julie if I mess something up like a lot of people can die so I think I'll be okay and this is what we're going to explore in today's episode. No not not the circus. But how can you make it to twitter even if your background is not necessarily in tech and the stores you're about to hear well you don't WanNa Miss. I am so stay with us if your student who wants to work at twitter are twenty twenty applications are now live. Go to t that co slash apply. That's t-that co slash apply. Where back and I'm bringing my two tweets from the top of the episode? Starting with Mister William Love. Hello William I love your last name thank you you can think my mother for letting me she per maiden name she. She fought hard for that one. So what do you do here to him. I work on our HR team. I handle a benefits and wellness for twitter so keeping people mentally we physically well. When I was in college I was a history? Major that does not translate into working in the tech industry in any way whatsoever. And when I got out I I sort of jumped into. They have sort of those entry level you know market development reps and sales development where you do a lot of cold calling very unglamorous which which is not a word and it's just not really fun engaging work and honestly my twitter story kind of by accident. I was sort of mindlessly looking for jobs at my house and I get a phone call actually from a staffing agency and they need someone to come in here and do various sort of you know. Menial filing paperwork paperwork me. My job was to sit in a closet for six seven hours a day. Just file thing. I know that closet big closet. You're used to always be in. Ah Yes love literally and metaphors so I spent a lot of time in there. I do want to let a lot of our listeners audience now that hey twitter is not only tech. We have other roles. A lot of people think that they have to have a software engineer. A coding background to work at twitter. And you really don't about a half a rolls or non integral all you have to do is determination and show that you care about this platform and then you know overtime. It's sort of evolved and I started learning a lot of things and I was rewarded for the year and a half of hard work that I put in actually being converted into a full time employee so it was very very unexpected. I've been here. Gosh three and a half years now and like if you had told me in two thousand fifteen that would be working at twitter. I honestly wouldn't have lead you as you can see. See you can come to twitter from any type of background even as a history major. Just like William did and now let's bring back Jordan Jackson and hear his story when I know. What do you do here at twitter? Most offer engineer on health and reporting team before I came in I was active duty and US Air Force served Abou- how almost six years I always wanted to make my own company like of course beyond the bay area. Everyone is obsessed with tech so I wanted to have my own company. One day Tom Kept run into this problem where I didn't have a technical co founder. I didn't have anyone to a code. And then our money to pay anyone Didn't have anyone who's like ability for you. so My solution for that was to teach myself how to cope. So that's how I landed into coding in It was something I picked up a couple of times actually I. I probably started learning how to cope. Maybe two or three times then. I like we'll come back to it And so One day hours on base and I was Speaking with one of the pilots Because that's my job in here. I helped pilots before they took off on missions and I was just talking about like I think I'll blackbirds actually. And then he he randomly just say like go on no one to buy groceries and I was like Oh really. Can you introduce me to this person. So it was really like Randall. which is how I met John Longtime ago and over? The course of I want to say Maybe a year to eighteen months like we just like a really great relationship. While I was still active duty still learn how to code and by the end of my list. Many constantly like on her like getting out Air Force Like the Communist twitter Jordan ended up landing and interview for an internship by constantly communicating with his contact here twitter and guys and another episode. We're going to talk about what it takes to now that interview but I wanted to point out that Jordan basically got connected to twitter through one of our biard. JEEZ twitter blackbirds water. Beer juicy may ask. Here's here's William Love. I'm so right here now at twitter we have the seven soon to be eight so we have blackbirds which has recently been mentioned and we have twitter are open for LGBTQ plus employees. We have twitter women. We have twitter Asians. We have alice which is far lat next. Employees which I've learned is Spanish for wings. We also have twitter parents and then soon we will be rolling out twitter able so really reaching out to our employees. Our customers that deal with disabilities. Nice things like that. So it's it's exciting. We have a lot of different groups that come together and our BIAGGI's and if you WANNA follow a twitter handles they have some great content twitter blackbirds is at blackbirds. I want to interject here. I'm part of twitter. Islas because I'm Latina. That's my background and I'm also part of twitter woman. BIAGGI's are a big AAC part of our lives here at twitter and almost every single employee belongs to one so I asked John. Are you involved with any G.'s Yes mostly involved with twitter opener. LGBTQ group and we're getting cocktails on Friday. We're having a happy hour so but we also bring in cool speakers a lot of times we'll do cool events walking welcome. Frayed invited to his happy hour. FEW TURNS INTO EVE's I hope you're seeing that you don't need to have any one type background to work with us. Make your own path finder strength and go for it. You belong twitter. Hey do you WanNa know where we're going to be on. Campus stay connected sign up for a newsletter. It dot com slash connect. That's t-that co slash connect. John yes choice. What is my favorite moment? Now what's what's that. Let's talk to someone who killed dead with their resume and successfully got an internship here or as we refer to them at twitter turns. This is turn update. So introduce yourself madam. Hi My name is Priya and I'm an intern on the ADS. API team ooh. ooh that sounds fun. Any fund projects and things he worked on one of my favorite projects was adding metrics to the video ads. And it's for a secret client. I cannot say more top secret stuff going on twitter saying now we want to know what was a fun activity activity that you did while you were twitter just getting to know my team and something. I'm really excited about is that I got a one on one meeting with Vigia. She's one of our topic. Sex and I cold emailed her into your applied to meet with me so I got a thirty minute meeting nineties which is really exciting so twitter everyone run loves the interns. Like if you want some things ask them people will give it to you like you're the apples of our interns anything you want. Are we just want you to learn and grow and ask questions head head of all legal so she has the whole policy team under her and the whole legal team under her she is a bad ash. Saw Ed what are you gonNA ask her her. Okay what did you ask her. I asked her how she got to this point in her life like what were the different stuff she she took during her career and also drew her to twitter. And she has a really interesting story about her father-in-law tweeting about the revolution in Egypt and feeling As if that was such a cool platform to be used for that and then found out one of her friends was at twitter and was like can you give me a job here and then two years later ended up here all right. Thank you so much for coming for the turn-up dates and that's our episode guys. Hope you're beginning to see that all it takes to stand out twitter is for you to be you and I wanna hear what you have to say so. Follow me on twitter at Studio and will tweet you next time. mm-hmm building characters is a production of pod. People for US twitter you. This episode was hosted by me. Romeo and end John Julich our executive producer. Rachel King. This episode was produced by Tony. Gannon and Elisa Lambert with production support by Luis Gil. Oh please ascribed this show on apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to podcasts Rytas our review. It would really help us and follow us on twitter. You for tips and tricks tricks from our recruiting team. You can also follow me at its studio meadow and DM me with all your burning recruiting questions. Thanks for listening name. That's one thing that I say. Every time they go to schools is like if you D- Emmy. I will respond to every message. I don't say I don't check my linked Lincoln that much I get. I get work at Lincoln. We don't know exactly and we get like two hundred emails a day so I don't go there. Mailing linked to messages and I don't give my email way but I say I will respond to the dams and surprisingly not less students do it. Yeah I tell my students that the message. Jackie people tweet a track all time he responds.
Interviewing @ Twitter
"I feel like we all have to confess our twitter story. I I showed up to my interview on the wrong day. Oh my God wade the interview that day. No they told me Ma'am your interviews. Tomorrow I showed up the day before the day before it was the day before. But I guess that's shows just how eager lying how much you wanted to Joe Julie Spin. Yeah Crooner Hi there. Welcome to build and characters by twitter. You an inside view into launching a career in tag and how to have fun along the way. I'm your host Julia. Romeo and a University of recruiter here at twitter today. We'll be talking about interviewing. It's highly likely you'll be as the question. Why do you want to work at twitter as my guests? Who told me the worst answers? They've gone to this question. Here's my co host Don Julich. I think a pretty bad answer is like oh I just went to work at a big Tech Company. Oh well I mean you can work at Google to their bigger than we are. Macrae told me help you interview somewhere else then. Definitely not a good answer. I think that the worst answer. This is a net as senior software engineer. Here at twitter. You could possibly give is oh I wanNA censor so and so or not. I hear that solicited as well. Hey Do you have a question for me? Use the HASHTAG building characters on twitter. And don't forget to follow us at twitter you okay. Let's talk about the technical interview what it looks like what it feels like and how to get ready. If you're interested in a non engineering role hold on tight will get to you in a moment and you might learn a thing or two from the section. Now let's welcome our guests for this episode. My name is Susan and I am a software engineer. Twitter I work in an area called client configuration Katie Hawks. I'm in the Program Manager for Twitter University. Which IS EDUCATION FOR ENGINEERS? So we deal with on boarding engineers when they first start in. The ongoing technical trainings. My name is Louis and I am on the engineering recruiting team. I know the also do something really fun. You also with a little bit out there right. I am one of the CO chairs of twitter. Ls here on the West Coast. Okay when I see technical interview going on here twitter. I will often see students. Interacting with their interviewer writing code on a wide board. That honestly looks like hieroglyphs to me so wanted to hear from Susan. What is actually happening in there? It will be structured part explaining something you already know about. We WanNa hear you communicate your technical knowledge and also part show us your ability to write some code so you'll be asked to write a little bit of code for us and we will then walk through what it is. You wrote that we can understand your intentions and understand your ability to analyze what you just provided. Okay so the first interview the first five minutes what what's supposed to happen than the next forty five minutes and lastly the forty-five minutes behavioral interview here at Twitter. We actually let you either type on a laptop or if you're having a video conference interview you'll be asked to connect to a web browser and we'll send you a link and what we will do is watch you take your answers to technical coating question. He was example. Coding question like a ballpark like what's a coding question. Like it's fine to practice with something. Simple like swap two variables. I know that sounds super easy and something that you probably have already mastered. But it's nerve wracking to open up a web browser knowing that somebody is going to watch every keystroke that you make if you say. Hey I know Java make sure that you got some basics you have some algorithms down where you can just type them out cold through your fingers like swapping two variables a good thing to look up before you come to a technical interview. In my opinion is something known as insertion sort insertion sort is a really common algorithm that as an engineer. I have used professionally. Probably almost every single company I've ever worked at look up. Insertion SORT and in your favourite language code up insertion sort and practice that until it just flows from your fingers. That's solid advice. Right there review your data structures review your simple algorithms such as the searches in sorts. Take a look at your data. Structures like lists linked lists Hash tables and understand simple operations and the run. Time OR BIG O. Costs of those operations as well as the runtime and big. Oh cost of those algorithms and yes. It's great if you right perfect code but let me tell you a secret. There is no software engineer. That always writes perfect code straight. This is shocking. If you're Kotas no bugs in it. I doubt you wrote it. Inclusion lives a twitter. We host interactive onsite events for historically underrepresented students and computer science. Learn more at T. DOT com slash diversity matters? That's T- that CO SLASH DIVERSITY MATTERS. Alright Future tweets interns. Do you know what the best interviewees having common don't feel stumped feel ready if you feel challenged by the question candidates that strongly embraced the challenge and Feel Eager. Even they can admit. Wow I'm a little afraid of this question but if still dive right in and give it a shot that's going to show a resiliency and positive attitude so you landon interview with twitter when you nervous and then you make a mistake then. What here are some tips hint? It's okay to make mistake. If you catch yourself making an error. Our job is to make sure you understand in a collaborative environment. Making the stakes is okay. If you see your problem please go ahead and fix it. You've got plenty time because it's beautiful to see someone catch themselves and then given the opportunity to correct their mistake as the interviewee you're sitting in a room for a few hours and people are coming and going and talking to you so it's kind of like it's your office and putting yourself in the head space of like this. Is My office like that. Helps me feel confident. And when people come in stand up I shake their hand. I greet them if I need a break. I asked for on say hey can I have five minutes like in some water kind of switches that power dynamic in a way that makes you feel less like you're on trial and everybody is here to see if you're going to get something wrong but instead of having a conversation these people are coming to speak with you and you're asking them questions as well. It's okay to be excited. You should be excited. We cannot wait to meet you but please be mindful. Body language matters. It's okay to be excited. I would be mindful of the ways that physically manifest so things like rocking in your chair. Tapping the table. I'm somebody who fidgets little bit when I have that. Nervous energy or excitement. So whenever I'm interviewing I always put a pen in my hand. Usually because I'm taking notes while I'm being interviewed but it helps me to. Just keep my hands still and not fidget. Okay future troops and turns if you're nervous during the interview. Try this. It's magic I don't know if you watch family feud but you always have that one person that buzzes the Buzzer to early and gives an answer. That's completely different from the question was asking. That happens in real life as well right. You're so eager to respond that mentally. You're not even listening to it's being asked. Silence is not a bad thing in an interview. Take the question in. Ask clarifying questions at least here at Twitter. We have paired interviews for example. And that's for reason we WANNA simulate that collaborative environment. We want to really show you what it would be like to work here so known ever feel like you're there on your own responding to an interview bring your interviews with you. Bring them along for the journey. Show them how you're thinking and if you're nervous don't feel bad saying that you are nervous right. Show them again that vulnerability interviewing it's not an easy thing and I think we all understand that so when I noticed that the candidate seems to be in this excitable state the first question I asked him is. Are you nervous and you know? They're like nervous excited all that I asked them to put a number on it and then I say okay. Imagine that coming down and as I say these things I tell them look. I'm here to seek out a collaborator and a team mate. I WanNa see the best in you. I as your interviewer. I'm rooting for you. I want you to do your absolute finest work here. Because I'd like to see what it's like for us to see each other every day. Hey we want to hear from you doing the Combo by tweeting at US using HASHTAG building characters and follow. Us atwitter you. I think one thing that a lot of people do they prepare is work solo on things. They think okay. I need to understand this programming language and these problems so they just you know heads down do it at their laptop but that isn't the environment you will be in in an interview. So if you're short on time or preparing for any interview I say. Trying like simulate the environment of the interview. If it's going to be a phone interview ask a friend. Call you and ask you those questions. I would add a couple of things here one. We're not saving lives at twitter so obviously it depends on your situation but if someone tells you that you need to come in the next day for an interview feel free to push feel free to explain why that's not ideal for you how you're not being set up for success and I think it gives you an indicator again of ultimately the company culture and what we're really after. I think you have to be your size advocate for ultimately your success and the second thing I would say is leverage recruiters. Were here for a reason and really rely on them to to give you the preparation. You need for interviewers. We've learned so much today. From what a technical interview looks like to actual coating tips. Now it's time to hear our recruiters questions so I think my favorite question happens during the behavioral portion of the interview. And it's really on some reflection and self awareness. How would your manager describe your biggest areas of improvement? And how would your manager described your biggest weaknesses changing that question? From how would you describe it to Howard? Your manager describe that helps bring that other perspective outside perspective and show whether or not that candidate has us off awareness and understands how they can continue to grow in their deductible or whether they don't and I think that's a really big indicator for success at twitter and really it's a big indicator for being able to succeed in an accelerator career. I like to ask questions that. Give me an indicator of what the person values and what drives them so. I ask things like what's an accomplishment. You're really proud of sometimes. I can really interesting stories out of it. And I didn't know that they were like a national champion in some kind of sport but I find that out in that moment and I also like to ask what what gets your bed in the morning. What lights you up. And then conversely. What's the kind of things you avoid a little bit? And that gives me an insight into what does person will enjoy working on and if that aligns with what the what the work. I will be giving them on the team. I always usually ask what their long and short term goals are. Is this next step in your career working with me. Is that GonNa get you closer to your goal like if goals to be master. Not You probably shouldn't do this job like this is probably not a great job for you to make sure that. I'm hiring them for the right role and this is going to help them get to their long term goals. Create your own hired this amazing once again. It's time for my favorite part of the podcast today. We're talking to someone who smashed their interview and got an internship. Here is the turn of date. My name is Brennan Bar and the town experience intern this summer. He's actually my my minty Alyssa's GonNa say so. Tell me anything funding. You did hear twitter this summer. Tons of fun stuff mateen. The town experienced team is kind of the people who really innovate what it means to recruit new talent here at twitter Really audited are processes. We've had just so many cool projects over the summer. I can't really talk about too much. Because it's mostly some internal hiring things but it really has been a pleasure to be able to. Kinda like just brag about all the cool stuff from my team gets to do. Brennan was working on some internal comms stuff for me and he wrote some stuff that one of the higher up exact sent out so we thought that was pretty cool. He ghost wrote something for someone really high up. Ooh email from some really high that ask so I thought it was pretty cool. So tell me now. What's your favorite snack twitter? Oh I have to say the dried mangos have won my heart this summer to know anything that you learn here twitter. They GonNa take with you for the rest of your life. Well to take a page of John's book his Macho. This summer has been without data. Everyone's an expert so hungry somebody but It really is make sure you have dated a backup everything you say that you can even more confident when you're presenting to people. I want to thank Oliver Gas for being here today. And being part of this amazing conversation see you next time. Hey do you WanNa know when we're going to be on campus? Let's stay connected sign up for a newsletter at t co slash connect. That's T- that co slash connect building characters is a production of pod people for at twitter. You this episode was hosted by me. Do Romero and John Julich. Our executive producer is Rachel. King this episode was produced by Tony. Gannon and Elisa Lambert with production support by Luis. Gil Please subscribe to the show on Apple podcast or wherever you listen to podcasts. Right as I review it would really help us and follow us on twitter. You for tips and tricks from our recruiting teams. 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Interning @ Twitter
"That's the golden mindset for any intern if you have that mindset no matter what team you're on you're gonNA be usual on the right side of things and I remember after getting mail for two weeks. I said this cannot be my internship for the summer. But if I don't speak up you have to meet people halfway. Hi there welcome to building characters by at twitter you an inside view into launching a career and tech. I'm your host doolittle meadow and a university recruiter here at twitter. I'm here with my co host today. My Name's John. Julius can. I'm a program manager for recruiting and in today's episode. We're going to give you some insight on how to land and enter ship at twitter. We're also going to cover what it's like to be Jack Dorsey. First and only intern. And why you might want to hit that conference you've been thinking of and for those of you who end up interning with us or with any other company for that matter we're going to talk about one. Makes you stand out as an intern? Today were talking to experts on the matter. They started US interns and now they're fulltime tweets. Today we're talking to. My name is diamond young and I'm a career development specialist here at twitter. My name is Beebee and I'm a business systems analyst. Hey do you WanNa know when we're going to be on campus? Let's stay connected sign up for our newsletter at T. dot com slash connect. That's T- that co lash connect. I think that I heard somewhere that Google facebook and twitter get more applications for a job than Harvard or any of the big schools. We totally do. You're more likely to get into Harvard than you are getting an internship. Yeah twitter internships are like three month long auditions to see if we WANNA work with the time for three months and they cost money to like. We'RE SPENDING MONEY TO HAVE INTERN. So we're investing in you because we want to hire you. Well we're rooting for you. And that's probably GONNA be true for most companies. We're rooting for you. We want you to do well because we want to hire you so you can solve our problems. Have you ever sent thousands of resumes to no response or worse? Have you been to interview after interview a not landed the job? Don't worry you're not alone. I know I've been saying this all along but every candidate has a different story. We come from so many different backgrounds and here twitter. We make an effort to find the most talented people from all over however sometimes the road to success can be bumpier for some more than it is for others. Here's diamond. I was attending North Carolina Anti State University in Greensboro North Carolina. And at the time I major is public relations and journalism and mass communications. I was very involved in school. I had a lot of like local internships but nothing out of the state out of the city so I wasn't really experienced in that sense but more so just involved in clubs and organizations and after graduating twenty sixteen took a leap of faith. I moved to Orlando Florida. I had on their credit card. A packed up my car and I just went. I just knew that I wanted to learn something but out of outside of the textbook. I started a youtube channel as well. I was pretty discouraged because I want to interview after interview and I just couldn't land one so I was almost on the verge of coming back to North Carolina and I just went to. This conference met the right person at the right time. In two weeks later I was moving west Palm Beach to start work so I started with that and unfortunately a year later they had layoffs so it was. It was a lot trying to navigate. Okay wait I have to go back home because I was just starting to. What did they call it adulting? I was just starting to navigate that I was like. Oh I'm GonNa Talk Ari I WanNa hear your story so I went to Texas State University so kind of the south like diamond. I studied computer science when I did a minor in math so during my sophomore year I was like sending out applications like crazy and I would get a lot of rejections. Still have them to humble myself to this day so then. I finally got an internship with an oil company back in Houston so after that summer I was hoping to come back there but then it just didn't work out and I think diamond. Kinda like highlighted this where it's like sometimes when things are not meant for you because there's something better out there so I'd apply twice before it's twitter got rejected both time gates okay. Buried the hatchet so then finally Mooney reached out to me and she was like. Hey we have first flight and we want you to come out and like interview and stuff. It's a three interviews one day when in there with like just everything that I had and they actually wanted me to come back and do an internship. Sophomore engineer intern. So I want to take a second here to talk about first flight. Which is one of our diversity. Programs for interns. First Flight is a two day for third year students. And a great way to get your foot in the door if you want to learn more go through t dot co slash I belonged. Here's diamond again. So apparently I applaud to twitter late at night. And actually don't remember applying. That's what's funny because I think sometimes especially being in the south most of the tech companies are in Seattle or San Francisco places that you've probably never even traveled to and you feel like I'm not going to get it so I think that's why I forgot that I apply because it didn't seem like something that I would typically do at the time but I'm sure I was like okay. Let's go for it. I've learned to not get attached to too many jobs because you may or may not get it so I think that's why I forgot in the email went to spam so I know your email for an interview into spam Just the hey. We're interesting you like it. Went to spam so another email that came through. It was a march at this time. You're already considering other offers and other things and I was supposed to be an Omaha Nebraska for internship and of course when twitter calls you have to answer and so a few months later. I was in California for the first time working out twitter been. Apparently I was Jack's the CEO. Jack Dorsey. I in turn that he's ever had so. I was new to California new chat new to twitter. The role was new for twitter so everything was new but it was so exciting and I was able to help out so many times last year and mom meet John how creating an Jay. It was just amazing so for me to get a full time offer to come back now a year later. She is four circle. How does it feel to be Jackson? Inter I'll put it this way. I had to adapt and it was a lot of me coming to the table with ideas as well because this was the first time the executive office has intern and so the first two weeks I was getting mail but I think the highlight wishes having access to Ned and to Jack and just being able to have that visibility and and have a one on one with them and I didn't realize how rare that was to have a one on one with him I just want to take a moment here and acknowledged that diamond got a very special opportunity. She is to date Jackson only intern. Naturally we wanted to know more about what it's like to work directly with the CEO. Up to it. The first time I met him. It was definitely awkward. He's very quiet and you don't know he's thinking so then you start being awkward and we always hear like is he shy. He says he's shy. And he is to an extent and we had a long conversation about being an introvert versus an extrovert and things like that and we had a long talk about Zodiac signs. And we're both Scorpio. So that was fun for me just learning more about I guess Hamas being a normal person and he told me that on the he just doesn't have his phone like totally phone lists in just enjoying being at home. You know hanging out with others. I'm sure you buy some over before. He turned off his phone but just being very over the site turning now. Hey we want to hear from you. Join the Combo by tweeting. Us using HASHTAG building characters and follow us on twitter. You welcome back to all of my fellow. Introverts out there feeling left out of the equation because you like to disconnect deliver. Sometimes we just heard diamond. Give us the scoop on Jack Dorsey and as you can see. Here's an insurer to you are in a safe space here now. Let's get back to being an internet. Twitter here's diamond again. I won't say I was being tested but I believe everyone was watching to see. How is she gonNA fill in this whole issue? Going to thrive what is going to happen. And I said that DERMOT INTERVIEWS OFF. Elga has something to prove like okay. I have to hit the ground running so being able to do something new every day but not run away from it. I think was very important and I was able to work with three or four different teams last year so being able to treat each team as if they were my own because the team that I'm on now was a team that I was helping out last summer. They were the ones that brought me on full time now and they said we love how you embrace our team you showed up. You did the work if you said you were. GonNa do you did it. Because they had interns so someone else could have said no. That's not my team where you're not my manager. But I don't believe in that and I think they were able to see that and honestly. They were impressed with me just diving into things that I've done before in not being too good to do like certain types of task for instance. Some people don't like join administrative task. But you have to have a balance you have your strategic things of your projects but you also have those day to day things other answer. I think it was easier because we were being compared in a sense but he didn't want to do certain types of task but I will always rise to the occasion and they said they could see that early on so luckily for me. I was able to get that feedback before I even went back home of why we love you while we want you back and one thing. I thought you did. Well was you had to really hit the ground running and be like okay working at value and you had to be proactive and like no one was micromanaging. You Manage Yourself. How can I help Jack? How can I help my team and how can help these other teams and that's the Godi mindset for any intern if you have that mindset no matter what team you're on you're to be usual on the right side of things and I remember after getting mail for two weeks? I said this cannot be my internship for the summer. But if I don't speak up you know you have to meet people halfway so I would literally walked down row by row the desk and say hey. Do you need to random teams? I didn't know what time it was or what they did. I just knew that I'm gonNA leave your with some type of experience and I want to add value to twitter anyway. I can and it was rewarding for sure okay so a diamond insane about the golden mindset is really important for all of us to understand even though twitter has been around for a little over ten years. We're still figuring things out. Along the way we still have tweets creating things from scratch. Rowen and learning all the time we're constantly looking for passionate people that wanted to grow face new challenges and create with us. But maybe you're asking what's the secret formula for land again internship with us? I'm here to tell you it's all about you being you. I know it sounds in plastic. But if you're passionate and if you want to create an inspire that's it that's all it takes for me. I think it was not fitting into a mold out there. And just being one hundred percent yourself by this company does a really good job of welcoming that and kind of highlighting that for a lot of people and then also just working really hard being passionate about what you are doing and by the company and wanting to actually be here. It's true that they say that when you get interview they WanNa make sure that they're you're somebody that they can work with every day and that they enjoy being around you and I was like okay. I'm going to be one hundred percent myself in an interview and it's either going to go one way or another and they appreciate everything that I had my beliefs on the company and what it does and all of that they took it all and I was just like I appreciate it. I had my fair share of knows with other companies and I honestly feel like I was trying too hard thinking about it too much. Just being my head in you practice practice and you know you hear a different tips but for the first time. I was myself with the twitter energy and it paid off like I was just myself at all these notes because it was it was a phone screening at first with the manager that I would be working four hours to get the position and I had everything about the company mission and values and all the things I thought she. She didn't ask me anything that are prepare for her and I was like. Where's this conversation going? And she was just asking just random things and would you like to do on the weekends. She was so interested in who I was. That was what topped everything else. She could have asked me behavioral things and of course the next set of interviews. I was maybe a little bit more structure but just that first one and knowing that I was enough to move forward it was. It was amazing and it was the first time. I kind of a hat to go with the flow. Because she didn't ask me anything traditional at all. I think it helps to really know your resume like the back of your hand. Because how can you say? I've did this for the last five years. And you can't really recall or really. Be ABLE TO ARTICULATE. What's up there if you say. Oh Yeah I've been able to do this type of tasks. Okay tell me about that. I actually had some sort of the same experience when it comes to twitter. It's like the first interview I felt like I was myself. And that doesn't happen a lot of interviews that I've been to and I got the job so maybe it doesn't tip be yourself. Just don't be intimidated by the moment. Just go do you Hashtag do you. Hashtag do you. Potential turns of the world. Now you know being your thank you is what it takes. But how do you short keys yourself? Here's our advice. We are everywhere. Yes you can tweet us at twitter you you can also come meet. Us On campus. At an event or a conference we literally have hundreds of tweets going around the world all year round looking for new talent. We really want to meet you. Here's John Talking a little more about this. Like tech conferences. All the tech companies are there a lot of times. A hiring managers are there. And they're they're he really wanted to impress ever-higher manger meets you. It was like wow. This person needs to be on my team. You'll probably get on their team. So that's a those conferences are good places to meet people and then referrals Su. I'm a referral program manager. I was and university for me. That makes you stand dowd. Makes me think that you're serious about this so I took the extra time to talk to them. I looked at their resume. And even if I felt like the resume may be wasn't at the point that they should be for a role at twitter. I spoke with one of them and coach them until them like this. And think about taking this courses when you go back to school so bad you'll have a little bit more leverage when you play again next year. The application opens every single year. So you have a chance. Next year one student. I really liked that. Wanted to work at twitter who applied. He loved data so he got connected to our twitter. Api which is public. You can connect to it. Got a whole bunch of data it's data analytics on it and affirmative paper was about but he published it on medium and then got picked up by some other tech journalists so when. I met him on campus. Hey I wrote this article I was like. Oh Wow this is actually a big article that you just published on your own than people picked it up Mike here afforded the Jack for you. It's like Ford. Jack was kind of cool so it was a neat way where he was being proactive. We HAVE DATA. Science teams look at tweets and draw conclusions from that. So he's like I'll just do this anyway. So that's pretty cool. I think in a way to be proactive. How value how can you add value? That is the most important part of this inclusion lives at twitter we host interactive onsite events for historically underrepresented students in computer science. Learn more at T- that co slash diversity matters that's t- that co slash diversity matters. Future turns this episode would not be completed with an update from current turn. It's time for my favorite part of the podcast. This turn update Akron Exude. This summer. I had the pleasure of working with media studios which is part of the video. Org Periscope all that fun stuff. I come from UC Berkeley. And I'm studying computer science in sociology. Ooh That's awesome. I just like to know about both like how people operate and also all the techy stuff is one of the world doing two very different degrees. So coding yeah actually. A software engineer. Intern accusa tells a little about your engines and cool projects in Costa. Did here at twitter so my project. This summer was in relation to block. Scheduling I was in charge of doing the notification system for it. There's not really a very clear way for users. Right now. To be reminded WANNA broadcast goes live so I was in charge of doing that. Ood So you're the one in charge of reminding us there's something going live right now get to Chris. Hemsworth is Paris giving something live. I get a paying this you. Yes exactly. I love like the visibility being able to see my work and see the impact that it has. That sounds cool. Any fun activities did the summer while you were a twitter. Yes I went wine tasting with a bunch of the interest in cinema and that was really fun. That's a great thing because that means that you really connected with interns twitter exactly and actually the universe. Recruitment team does have a lot of events that help us connect with each other so for example we went to the one of the giants games. We also did Alcatraz tons of fun. That sounds amazing. What's your favorite snack twitter? I'm definitely going to miss just watermelon every single day. I go to this movie barring. Grab a bowl of watermelon. Owner keeping a healthy has been talking about gummy bears. I like to watermelon the house. Thank you so much for coming today. Thank you. I'm so glad that you guys weren't here today. Thank you so much for joining us. Put make sure you demise at at twitter you where to how building characters is a production of pod. People for at twitter you. This episode was hosted by me Judy. Romeo and John Julich. Our executive producer is Rachel King. This episode was produced by Tony. Gannon and Elisa Lambert with production support by skill. Please describe to the show on Apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to podcasts. Writers are review. It would really help us and follow us on twitter. You for tips and tricks from our recruiting team. You can also follow me at is through tomato and DM me with all your burning recruiting questions. Thanks for listening.