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Thinking Aloud

The Sustainable Futures Report

15:23 min | 2 years ago

Thinking Aloud

"In. Hi, this is day. It's Friday the fifteenth of March, this is the sustainable futures report. And today, I'm thinking aloud. Not intelligent. We've got to do something about the environment about you've got a business around or jump to go to maybe you'll desperate to find a job in all this takes time. You've got a family to feed always to pay those bills which seem to pop up every month. But still take you by surprise you have time. Anyway, what more can you do? Your all ready, recycling refusing plastic bags avoiding plastic bottles. And if you really got to think about being a vegetarian even Fagin will you may be vegetarian choice, but I like meat anyway, what are you do? You. Don't get any. Thanks for it. And it doesn't seem that much fact and should the government be doing more. And then there are these extinction. Rebellion people blocking the traffic if you heard about them the wanna make the point that the environment is important. Yes, I know that they're gonna make me late, and they won't Jay from mind. Already want to say the planet is anyone here who doesn't want to save the planet doesn't want their children to have a sustainable future. This is not helping. That's the climate message. Dilemma actually, a dilemma implies to choices many issues in just two or other. Could we be in danger? Confusing a whole range of environmentalists using getting all priorities wrong. We know bombarded with environmental messages role directions. What's important? What do we do? I. Should we aim at reducing plastic pollution or should we stop eating products that contain palm oil and protect the rain forest rainforest? Should we try and do something about poor aunt? We'll see we could stop driving diesel cars doesn't help. If you've already got a diesel car, and you've got dozens more monthly payments to me. Or should we be doing something about climate change? Can we do anything about climate change? What is climate change? Anyway of the problem. I think is my father serious problem. But let's step back first and defining. Exactly what it is. Do you remember global warming the greenhouse effect? And they think warrant averaging lists summer. Sounds a good idea. But it's not as simple as that. If you remember what happens is that the sun shines down all to the and quite a lot of heat is absorbed. But most of it just bounces off an is reflected back into space. Unlike the moon has an atmosphere up in the atmosphere is a of greenhouse gases that called greenhouse gases because that's exactly how the upright just like the pains of in greenhouse as heat radiates full dearth, some of it is reflected park by the greenhouse gas lab, if we didn't have this all the heat would escape into space in the would freeze, but if the greenhouse gas lamp gets to fake chops too much, heat and the earth becomes unbearably mall. The glassy is in the powder ice caps melt and sea level rises. Don't think so much just heat think about it as energy. It's that energy, which drives the winds and the waves the storms in the schools, and as more energy as trap the stores, become more violent and the rains become heavier. We see floods and mudslides crops. Spoiling waterlogged fields roads and railways washed away houses uninhabitable in some places. People are finding the whatever was flush down the toilet rising. Flood waters. Bring it back up whole countries become waterlogged leading to disease and ironically to scarcity of drinking water. So far only small countries are affected the Maldives, for example, the population of less than foreign fifty thousand but as the sea levels rise and rise permanently. Tens of millions of people will be driven from lands and become refugees, the tide of climate refugees will walk off the numbers Cardi on the move because all. Well, meaning people put up notices in comfortable, middle-class Arabia, refugees, welcome here. But they have no idea this gang grind problem. Now means of dealing with governments need to work together to help these people governments need to plan together. Surely, everyone has the right to life and the right to some help to recover from the loss of ours and their livelihoods through fault in their own some already seeking legal compensation from those industrial nations like ours. Who's pollution has caused the disaster. Last year's IPC report suggested that if we do nothing now will we tipping point on runaway climate change around twenty thirty. You and I will almost certainly still be around. Then it affects us both. Why tipping point? It's to do with self reinforcing feedback. Loops the Arctic ice cap is folks floating on the ocean as the ice melts in the summer, the earth L Beata or the way absorbs heat changes snow and ice reflect the sun's rays, but as they disappear the dark sees underneath them absorb the heat. When winter comes it takes longer to form is on the war ocean and the week is melts. More readily in the following spring mall heat is absorbed in summa less ice is formed next winter. And so it goes on. As ocean. Absorbs the heat water expands making sea levels rise sea levels a currently rising three point two millimeters per year. According to Wikipedia and NASA and this rate is expected to accelerate skeptical. Science dot com agrees also demotions several claims denying this evidence. Three point two millimeters. Doesn't sound very much. It's about the thickness of the cable you used a challenge of phone that's three point two milliliters per year. And that rate sea levels of risen thirty two centimeters all law than a foot in the last century. A new layer of water over the expense of the ocean means millions of tons more water can be swept up in storm surges and an environment already charged with more energy. Wolman holds more water they than colder air. So there will be few clouds clouds a crucial Dover woman because they both shade the earth and reflect the sun's rays back into space. Fewer clouds, more warming, all woman few clouds. All this affects us both. We both need to do something. What can we do school? Jill going on strike today. Fifteen to February young people in forty nine cities across the UK will walk out his school to protest about government inaction of climate change. The movement was inspired by Thornburgh a fifteen year old Swedish go who launched a sultry protest outside the Swedish parliament in the run-up to their actions. She went on to address business leaders at the World Economic Forum in Davos last month, telling them, I want you panic. You may have seen much the same message from Sedav labral also devils you can find it on YouTube. You can find a link online blogs. Well. The U K move onto his demanding the government declares climate emergency reforms, the national curriculum and tight steps to communicate. Verity of the crisis. Well, the IPC published that report on the threats from climate change at the end of last year, it was widely reported as saying we had only twelve years to take action. What did actually say was that? If we don't take immediate action, we risk reaching a catastophic tipping point in twenty thirty. That was twelve years after the day to report. Tony eleven years now. We need to do something we need to do it. Now. What can we do? We need to get energy under control energy to drive your energy to heat your home energy to run the lights and the computers in the television, the dishwasher, the washing machine in the coca and by the way, supplying clean water. Your home takes quite a lot of energy to. Climate change is caused by an ever denser, greenhouse gas lab, the principal greenhouse gases c o two. We put c o two into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels in our cars and our power stations burning gas and oil to heat our homes. What can we do? We can use cars less owner that really depends on government providing alternatives reliable public transport. If you saw this week's channel four dispatches. You'll know that's not a government. Priority of present something not in the north. When you change your call by actually more efficient one you can still get the space anti foam. It's you need and save money on fuel as well considering electric car. Although if you listen last week, you'll know that they're not yet right for everyone. Avoid long-haul holidays. I say that with a heavy heart a guilty, conscience and family in Australia. I expect to be paying very much more for that sort of travel all along. What about your home your workplace, your office Britain has some of the leakiest hose in Europe and thirty four percent of the gas used in the UK as used a heating new materials me is now possible to insulate almost any property, regardless of age, in some cases, it's possible to save as much as ninety percent of heating bills realistic? Fifty percent is not unreasonable. Would you like to cut your bills in half saves you my cousins com footprint? I'm planning sustainable futures report about integrating existing homes for later in the year. Eventually, they'll be case studies and videos, and of course, cutting energy in the workplace. We'll save you money if you're responsible for heat intensive industrial prices, you should find ways of making use of the waste heat. All be if you're in that sort of industry, you've probably being managing your energy is. The second most common greenhouse gases me thing is less than CO two. But it traps about twenty times as much heat may is produced naturally from decomposing vegetation on organic matter. I'm from melting permafrost. Much me thing is trapped beneath lakes and oceans in crystalline form. But as they heat up be saying bubbles to the surface. Very significant amounts of me. Now ex hails livestock cattle and sheep as long as we farm animals. We add into greenhouse gas emissions. We all go totally vegetarian. But if we eat meat less frequently we will go some way to reducing our impact on the planet. There's a new book out next Tuesday called the uninhabitable earth story of the future by David Wallace. Wells, it may be just token view. It may be an exaggeration. But some of the things he's talking about. I'm not out of line with climate change predations. Those are the doesn't mystic predictions. The media seems to ignore for example, he talks about the consequences of sea-level rise in how New York we'll build up around Manhattan to keep the waters out to the way from all those expensive properties. At the same time. He says that the city is spending less on refers won't repairs of the infrastructure in areas, like south, Brooklyn and queens because our recognized that these areas will become front an uninhabitable in the not too distant future. Here's what it said on the cover of it is was much worse than you think the slowness of climate change is a fairytale perhaps punishes as the one that says it isn't happening toll Nick your anxiety about it is dominated by his of sea-level rise. You all Banney scratching this is what terrorism puzzle even within the lifetime of teenager today. Over the past decades. The term arthropathy has climbed into the popular imagination a name given to the geological era. We live in now one defined by human intervention in the life of the planet. But however, sanguine you might be about the proposition that we have ravaged the natural world, which we surely have it is another thing entirely to consider the possibility that we have ugly provoked engineering, I in ignorance and then in denial climate system that will now go to war with us for many centuries, perhaps until he destroys us. In the meantime, it will remake us transforming every aspect of the way, we live the planet. No longer nurturing dream of abundance, but living nightmare. Sounds like the exaggerated sort of stuff just make people coast minds and go away. I still think ought to read it. Academic. Suzanne see Moza has identified the challenges that communicators face in trying to convey, the climate change message in visibility of causes descend impacts. Luckily agency during the experience of the impacts lack of gratification for taking mitigating actions disbelief in humans global influence, complexity uncertainty inadequate signals indicating the need to change perceptual limits and self interest. It's not simple. I think one of the most serious problems in promoting. The message is drawing the line between complacency based on over optimistic expectations and exaggerated warnings. Which just make people close that go away. David Attenborough center. What we do now will have consequences for the planet for thousands of years to come. It's a message that I wanna share with everyone along with a message that we can achieve most of the changes, we need not my wearing sackcloth and living in a cave, but by doing things differently and preserving standard of living. But we want to give it by doing nothing on waiting to see what happens. I believe that this is a stable futures possible. That's why this podcast doesn't make me reg, it doesn't make me famous mind you set of famous who could help you get the message across. I'm Anthony day that has been the sustainable futures riddle. The next one will be on the first much. Meantime, spread the word. Let's do all we can to make the future sustainable for ourselves for children for their children to.

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Ep.54:2 Honor Is What Love Looks Like FEAT. Kelsi & Jason Murray

Kingdom Family Talks Podcast

30:13 min | 1 year ago

Ep.54:2 Honor Is What Love Looks Like FEAT. Kelsi & Jason Murray

"Hello everyone what company kingdom family talks part two of our tying together with jason kelsey murray if you missed the first part part one i encourage you to go back and listen first because this is a continuation of this amazing story on jason kelsey your truth heroes in our life that it is also an incredible powell full story of redemption shannon of forgiveness and reconciliation i encourage you even at this very moment just fasten your seatbelt because your boss have fresh encounter good miss kind of guy but what i i know like for my own wife that you know very well jennifer at just sometimes when i go in she does know if i come back and somebody then she goes through from the whites perspective that's why a doctor randy clark off and when we are together he he speaks out loud at the voice of you're also talking about jennifer as a true hero so i'm saying here now as you you got married but when you marry you knew the you got married to someone that is not going to totally see how beautiful you all you have family together and again as saying i knew that you you married in two and now you're gonna have family and you know so it's not just the war in the battle he is experience you have your own battles and on top of it you're gonna have the bottle of of of the wars that sp brought home shows in the middle of that what were some of the things that you went through and someone you're processes i haven't fully look back at it until just recently 'em i think part of it's probably a defense mechanism going through it because it's like well you just you just did like she had at the time being being in a you know and it wasn't it it'd be although you know you you what was it like and i never i never answer that question 'em 'cause i don't know if i even have the words to explain it which just the you know the deal yeah something that i did in it it was it i would in this in are relationship for the long haul you know i mean yes we were engaged but i was in it for the covenant not the convenience of it stops a huge yeah through the whole thing and you know i did what i had the do i didn't end adjusted i get adjusted my life's do what had to be done so you know yes i would limit hospital whole time i sleeping on the floor i would therefore whenever you needed and then each each season of her life is changed after we got out of the hospital in her life changed again because where now at homerun so then were adjusting are live to to whatever that new surrounding looks like in the whole past fifteen years is just been just that is just to challenge that arises were adjusting in filtering the thing is it no longer work in bringing in the things that need to to be in places that are lies work better and but i mean shoe is my dream for me to do work you didn't think syracuse at the time but looking back to me is is you don't we got sent back home in dallas it's you know where china redefined what a new normal for us is and then on top of that you have everybody wanting to to trust me into the limelight you know you gotta go do this you africa till you're testimony you gotta go here he'd tell these people thank you what they did you know that that's how good and well but it's like you know we never had time in the beginning obviously the sit down and figure out who we were and i wasn't a real big challenge that is coming up later yeah i love later you know speech as we've always been kind of forced into what you have to go do this through you have to go do do that you know in just tell me a little bit because i know i'm hungry remember what year we met you probably remember the details but i still remember the service i still remember where you stoop like i still remember you kids so i do remember those details but can you help me would move in what happened during that season in life accurate bailing ready to to do the human conference in two thousand ten shows before that in two thousand nine and so that was that was funny because we didn't know anything about she never urging they did know history did what you did in i mean that was you know five years from now on the battlefield field in i in telling my testimony churches it showed how much loved me because of what he did for me in everybody likes that because the bad guys this is when you go out there and you're talking about how you go to these muslim countries i don't see thought to myself well user's phone maybe he didn't get the memo like a steeler enjoying iraq time back then but i mean it was just one of those but then you you're talking about going the pakistan but that's it if this helps with the timeframe that's when you start in the eagles circle the donation thing in you know after you you're certainly not the end you know if you gave us a thousand dollars to be part of the eagles circle obviously when i first got there i have no intentions of do anything but the holy spirit said you need a gift now it's kind of like if you say like you know my she gave her not i'm being honest like oh like mcrae here hearing when i mean i agree i felt it right now are on sale it was you know you need to get money to him so i could take the same love you to they're like okay you know fortunately for us or relationship kelsey and i as i i turned over said we need give into this and she didn't question it she just said okay and so when you were praying for people where they go get we just had brian so's before two thousand ten so worried about brian in europe frankford line i mean you know and and we were like well how are we supposed to give this to you and that's when officer caught todd were like hey i need to give him just check info todd walker says to you and that's that's what i gave it to you honestly i didn't i didn't think anything of it i don't even think you'd remember me a student of being obedient in i mean can i say that from that that initial service was i drastically change no but his seedless planet and i didn't even know it because you know you came back to two thousand ten to do the the healing conference that was awesome randy and bill and then when did you got a backstabber first almost eleven you no i i had been in pakistan since ninety four ninety five so i had been in pakistan for a long time going in and out through the healing comfort stuff correct now yeah in eleven we did one of the better ones we did a huge one thirteen to one we passed a million mark yeah it was it was the first one that we donated to tony eleven is you can then go around it yeah he wants to run yeah given us also my lover you know he's having watching those right now now he gave us you're he reached scriptures drag it might stuck together what really hit me what's you're book cinder advertise update but as we talked about that muslim lady in you know doing she got face in you know she said how long have you heard about jesus you know the story you wanna go federal crimes but i mean that's that's what rex me was it allowed me to see their first game as people not just sp energy anymore the human race to go to a changed it it it it destroyed and it makes me cry spanks that's i mean i have children more tattooed on my right forum i'm not kidding triggering amongst that it was almost like she did with their fair seats formula cast disturbing you're talking to have that same mindset that we punish these people purity my son who the hell how stupid is that mindset in you learn to i guess you could make it easier ls by you further and that's what i don't even know what i heard story rex you're husband said they're both died at a high temperature has risen brothers we said the hell is this war so like i said that correct me if you do the majority just blossom meritless to the question is how do i get vindication for what happened to be in at the lincoln family of kind of work that whole perspective shifted to i mean i got rocked bears were over here they go up a fairly scott said you know it's not supposed to be about the people that are deep freeze you just see what do you want people to see the bus to the people who did it to that's how justice is served imaging you know it's it's like what you what happened in twenty thirteen you don't extremist came in bomb churches kid a lot of people had a dodger edge somebody's got saved many people go heels you know it's that's that's justice kagan you know hey sir hey that's that's the sad part is is a lot of my friends love and forgiveness it's like poison that lots of from you find out they treated with drugs and alcohol to pay if they can't they can't get rid of it ultimately bottom end up committing suicide destroying their fans i mean it's not hard to see the fingerprint of the devil came to what joe steel destroy you see it all over but it's a lot of it's rooted in unforgiveness you know that was that was the beauty of it all you know you came back in twenty thirteen you learn all those people to chase and see the god is good you know it's it's what we've learned the goodness of god that leads people to another thing that rocked me is i think they'll johnson pointed out either one of his books services it's been two minutes it lucchino when the disciples one is called fire down upon village or did they get that idea from destroyed her meal test what did jesus terry you don't know what spiritual that's not the order the father each season you know it's the only thing that bill talks about but i like just you know in some twentythree where he talks about he'll prepared speech free in the presidency you're gonna love beautiful picture to take in in mine in me find reconciliation put him in a table in front of the devil say look at this you lose that's kind of where we're at so i mean i know i'm jumped around tried to make this and that is just beautiful i thought about bringing up because i know about one of the many highlights in moments but will it was so beautiful to watch you and atlanta in together with family and i still see where you're sitting i could still see a building in conducive for that also you kelsey but here you medical support i think metal tyreek but i know you met her she you miss a few other ones here we have suddenly family gathering on a one of them to share was there he was from iraq another one if tyreek is from pakistan of previous muslim and suddenly here we have this family gathered around the table together as one big family totally one loving one another and just recognizing how at being celebrated not tolerated rated everyone find a place at the family table anyway i just i that was almost like a dream come true so kelsey what you're feeling at the found the getting annoyed one moment you were laying on top of me i had a marine on top of me in colorado you've called on the stage joined the ship and my shirt the book would appear some we've had we've had some amazing moment so i'm sure people who is not laying on top of life donor stage thirty minutes i'm i'm just smiling as i'm looking were probably looks like going you had a captive audience my goodness yes a stretch canaan family gathering the funny thing was is it and we weren't sure a we were gonna be able to go on we kind of talked about it we knew and it was a i was right before then i wasn't an assistant cheerleading coach at the high school that's mile down the road from us 'em but there have been some feeling in me though i'm like i you know it's it was time for it to come to an end and i actually had quit resigned or stepped out or however you wanna stay at my job two weeks before the kingdom family gathering and i told jason i said hey you know i was the only thing that what's holding us back what do you think about this what do you think if we go in i do take take take a bath of jesus came to my mind is i remember phil talking about if you would like to know what he made i think it's one of the is certainly backing up but he talked about if you know god's gonna show up you need to do whatever it takes to get there it's not like having like we need to go and i was like i told you got censorship so yeah we we i called my mom like when you watch the kids for at you know three days right before before school starts in that book tour tickets and found all the information on the jimmy website is hotels and everything got the car rental daily were also up here here right now you're all in everything get lined up and it was just kind of a whirlwind you know and conference lifer three days of the the i don't even know how to say they environment that you're in you're soaking into and you don't never wanna come home by the way the whole the whole experience it wasn't a physical conference feel like a lot of conferences like you're you have so many different speakers in a minute if and kind of get hideous but that one it was just just laid it was awesome if you or a loved one a blind guys come see me i'm just like you know when you talk like you you're more at ease sometimes you hear as you said i in terms of earth don't get me wrong is awesome to see you and you know up at jack in all of us there just to see everybody together and i mean how ironic part of that was i hadn't talked it's about what had happened to me i mean ten years in ten years a long time and you know at least credit earlier you know she again captive audience like kids were underway asked me to talk about jim bay but i mean after i got up there enjoying insured with i shared i sat back down and i mean there is a kid from afghanistan came up to me i can't remember his name like i said so rick was there and then i mean it she comes up in d i didn't know it was him he looks good morning so i think when you're worshipping he put his hand on my back and you could tell you is getting rocked it he's praying for me and i'm just thinking to myself what what's going on here so he it gets done price freeway at whatever then i turned around it gives me a hug and say hi my name is he just says i'm from lebanon and then also what this austin prophetic it i mean david confirmed the f f d n this you know what what really got me was i connected with drake that'd be shaken i wherever a special connection we catch you know he told me you know send me an email critter you prophetic word sucking cheaper you know some neighbors and i mean in that email he gives me the prophetic word but he also says you know i feel as the middle easterners to ask for forgiveness worth is racer is deeply but i'm going to excuse me in i thought i had forgiven i guess wars the mental exercise but when you have the actual human beings step into it place dirty direct that forgiveness to it looks like you're going to roll over different level in a minute ride out that forgiveness letter which i think t shirt but you know what i told my i choose to forgive me for taking my you know formation be buying scarfing pay me it's about fan you don't use forgive you for the fact that i've never seen kids you know what you just said hey man you know you've talked to my brothers and their evidence you know in in and so forth but i mean well now it's gone it looks like you know the little bit of twice in unforgiveness got sucked out our phone like maybe tied up new this is i mean thirteen years after the facts not only seventeen seats thirteen years but i mean there's so much feeling that this case to a simple active right about that forgiveness later but more so when you hear his story about what happened to his family from extremist knows the genocide but they they perpetrated against his family they have him step in their place and ask for forgiveness of dirty ass is truly mind it really is i mean we we stay in contact with a minute left here and we have some chocolate chocolate trick to it is awesome the top three because you could get a different perspective on muslim cultures to kind of understand why they do what they do you know it's kind of added that he unknown next year takes root you gotta love it yeah no that's why it's beautiful tyreek i talked about ten o'clock last night with him so he has you know resources spiritual and part of the family and then how she was there this week and so it's kind of a sudden all of these people of all of this is very very fresh timmy am and again as you may be no i just came back again from this last trip that was just ordinary phenomenal lot of opposition we got the breakthrough in again got to be able to in a way that yeah i i don't know if i've ever seen the level of how powerful love is and how trends formative love is and what the miracle cure forgiveness looks it's like i'd one person he was any mom and he said five years ago you said i touch her hand and he said i went and wash my hands because i touched on in federal and i was on clean but he said this stomach came in i hug and kiss juice and that's when i realized set the language of love is the language the blind eyes conceit ended death fair skin here and i want it is because i do know that we actually have perfected to full programs and you're gonna find a good place in the middle of the break at and we're trying to do about thirty minutes we gotta i'm very glad that we got a full hour not a one in both of you just because part of what we wanna do is i'm celebrating the fourth of july i'm celebrating america and us saying i've traveled hundred hundred countries around the world being the fifty states and i met at from when we living in columbus and see fort benning to lauded replaces ron oldies signed beautiful people that has paid an incredible price and that's why i have such an honor for for all of our servicemen but also people on a daily basis if that's ever and who is a spiritual son who's in firemen and all the ones that are police officers and we we have so many find people that are serving austin and it's paying a price at a lot of us gets to play in the den some of us gets the pacers somebody else gets to play i just hope that that one at just celebrate first of all the servicemen that's all of the ones that has paid a high price and i felt several times yeah i started the week while you were sure you're thinking about veterans that are holdman federal broke and then just what they've done true and people don't understand that meant so i do understand a little bit because a few times i've been in three for ptsd and i'm wondering you just because who you are and what you become and i know you are also in the process they tell you to release just a blessing just bless the people that are listening and bless the people that are serving your country less a lot of people out there that still just struggling in life and they need to just happening count and experience what a god how good he is and how lucky they are in the middle of their circumstances that they can experiencing some of his piece if you could just pray prayer or maybe both of you and just released that i the first one the receipts well we just thank you sir pretty awesome testimony agree goodness i miss you unrelenting saw the we we thank you for your face peace of mind surpasses all understand other leaders just released their blessing on his father to to see the value in each shouldn't be well there was a former enemy somebody who's done wrong to you my father's you've been whistled valuable century so as you so loved the world that each other we just thank you for that other i thank you for my feeling i thank you for my testimony from transformational brother thank you how you do it to those to hear this all right just pray that the seeds of love planning and there are just as it did with me the first time i'm the father i just pray that we have the ice of christ you see the suffering that goes on around us recognize fingerprinted the enemy tober kermit you did with good mother release who you are so that people see a guard that looks like jesus acts like jesus loves like jesus other respects to the restoration in my marriage between kelsey alliance through the struggles that we've been through we just released better for everybody listening to the veterans in particular i just come against the feelings of guilt and shame find you in change to a moment in the past but you do nothing about a trainer to release basketball christ to set you free to let go of the asterik brace now senior future dubious son to be a daughter to walk out forgiveness forgiveness you'll find freedom freedom finding love love those around you love those who did this to you it's life you're kids where it needs to be looked at more so celebrities so i think that kelsey i i just want you also just the price best especially because a lot of whites the children and i just sons there kelsey that you have the power our and you have a thority over the area will just chirpin has been you but you also have a thority over the year that you love and you have loved well kelsey is i just wanna do for you to release especially in that could be firefighters white but his wife and his out including white people that just over commerce you're very big powerful so good i like the lord i just i just think you i think you were family family is what curious through tough times and make it interesting to earn she hold i might have to start again this is why this is what families all about so we love their brief brief interruption of these beautiful children are coming in they're so beautiful that momentary i just i pray i prefer family and i think you for family because he knows his family and family is you know what what get get this through the hard things we've been through and and and and just lip service lift up and i just i just really feel say like you know why they you are seen in family you are seen and you may feel like lots of things that you do go unnoticed or unappreciated but you're seeing here at the first level of of the father seeing you and he sees you and he's where you know people appreciate everything you sacrifice her service men in service women whether you might have been might feel like you're seeing that stance but now we appreciate all that you do behind the scene for us philipon the freedoms that we have and i just bless all that you do why plus the time the chase to to take care of the teams macy mundane but they're important so important and it keeps everything functioning in moving forward you're sacrifice is so important in seoul valued and so held high in the arms of are father in east issue and i just pray that you would be see you would feel seen it know that you're seeing and so loved and so appreciate it and so so valued men mainland father i just thank you for this precious time together and i just want to release a blessing over jason kelsey and i think if you just for that overcoming annoying thing i think that love wins because love never fails i think if i every single person listening including myself i i i just think if you're touching us and you're doing something innocent through us i'm just hearing healing or healing hope i thank you father right at this very moment you and the heat a hole in people's life i noted hope deferred each people's hearts sick at this moment it's time for you to dream again and desire again because that is the tree of life and i just what he's even at this very moment i think if destiny destiny destiny is over each one of her life and what the enemy meant for evil god is gonna use it for good so i think for upgrades that is gonna take place in your life fast were salty and listening to this story that is bringing life and life more abundant t because that's what jesus came to give a thank you jesus forgiving us life and life more abundant so what he enemy came to kill seat undestroyed there's always life and life more abundant see the jew jesus came to given all you did is what you saw the father do science bless this time together and i think if a kingdom family talks that we could talk heart heart i share a story and i think that that is 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Your Last Decade #5: "James"

The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey

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Your Last Decade #5: "James"

"Hey friends and welcome to the happy. Eirik Jamie podcast. I'm your host Jamie and I'm so glad you're here each week on this show invited girlfriend to join me and we chat about the big things alive live the little things in life and everything in between happy last day of January of two thousand twenty. You guys it's a new decade. We know that I thought it'd be fun to talk to a few friends about what life was like for them. Ten years ago how life has changed. What the year two thousand ten brought them? What the last decade has brought them and what they hope for over the next ten years? Today I'm sitting down with one of Lindsay's friends. Lindsay works with me at all things happy hour and this friend of ours has had a radical journey in his space spaeth over the last decade James. He'll be known for this interview shares. How his story began with being raised in a home with the Hindu father and a mom who was a part of the underground underground Christian church? This is the foundation for his faith story. In so many times at the last ten years there are moments that can only be categorized as many miracles. You guys will not believe believe this story here is my conversation with James about how his last decade has looked from unbelieving to giving his whole life to God's purposes. Okay James Welcome to the special edition of the happier called your last decade where I bring people onto the show to talk about what has happened in the last ten years of their life. And Lindsey who works with me who a lot of our listeners know introduced me to you as she said I have this friend who has amazing sort of in the past ten years. You'RE GONNA WANNA here it. And she told me a little bit about it and I am so excited to hear your story so james take us all the way back to two thousand ten ten years ago and what did your life look like. Then as far as your faith in your education your family and then you're going to walk through all of the things that have gone on in your life in just a short amount of time of ten years so take us Mike to do ten. Thanks so much in twenty ten. I was kind of a not a believer in in the Christian faith but I was raised underground Christian in Houston in Texas and displaying. That real quick. My Mom Brooke Shin and my dad or India. They met to arrange my dad was in Grad School in the US and e actually flew back in the middle of finals to marry my mom. I met and my mom and agreed to become India's part of the wedding. Jaegerna Nickerson background. I don't think she was a believer but when she moves the US she became a believer and my dad's hostile towards that she kept her secret She had bibles of hidden in an attic stairs. Her house she was is not able to travel out to go to church. Allowed to go to meetings and things like that and so she basically look on her bone China a secret or until my brother elder brother the other night were middle school and that's what she showed. The Gospel with us in secret told us not to tell her father because the risk that were involved announced pretty hostile. So wow wow I believed I. I'm kind of like you know Play the secret agent Games. Like I won't tell my dad. That s cool. I was raised Hindu induced. My Dad and I didn't really go individualism about religious icon with rocks for a week Ebola and so that was just me being invisible. Conceited and stuff was the first time you heard. The Gospel was from your mom. Yes I have. The Gospel is from my mom. I remember Count Room that we rather admire you. My sister was six years younger since he was a baby. Then and my mom could occur in the room she shares with us because she might pick up some words and say something added. Wow what a lot of like I mean. I'm thinking as a mom Komo has been using facebook. What amazing faith and to think like? She wanted you her children to know this faith as well even in the hostile environment that you guys were living in right. Yes yes and that was a big part of it. My Mom's mom my grandmother on her death data think for last words where me and my brothers names and my mom had initially thought it was because She missed US or something. But you realize you haven't heard the gospel yet and so became really important to my mom that we know and we're raising the names of cheese she is is the reason me and my brother and mustered out everything that we are today because of her bay in the price the cheapest every day even to stacy still not a lot of church wine her and your dad better still married together still Houston Texas. Wow so you grew okay. Okay tell us about more about like keep going with the story because that is crate. We could sit here for a long time. I have so many questions. Yes but keep going because at this point she doesn't Tan your mom your race here but you're not. Are you a believer in two thousand ten. I it was a I was a senior in high school. doesn't tend was very strong in my eighty eight this but I had it Christian back in the hat to passionate love among because excuse the nicer areas but I did grow up in contentious multifaith in man US infused. I think I was passionate time for reasons. I I remember my mom to have this Hidden Bible closets. My Dad go to work She would spray or when he's in the shower spray and I think it was just very interesting upbringing. That never knew anyone has summer store at the time. So it's very isolated and you know and I wanted to learn about Christianity. We couldn't go to a church service and understanding it taught what about the old bibles that we had our in my mom's language that I can understand. I remember putting up Microsoft Carta in the middle of the night and searching Paul the apostle trying scientic get like a little bit of understanding of what the Christian faith is about misery sheltered upbringing little Cyprus ship little access to resources because of situations pushes my dad would even track my mom's car she went. And I'm just praying home so it was just like we have to keep it secret By that where do you against him. was there ever a moment in those times where there was like a slip up there was someone accidentally said something or your dad thought suspicion that might have been reading the Bible. Did that ever happen in your home. I think my dad was inherently suspicious. Because my mom didn't like going to the temple and he knew that she was race patient and so he had some suspicion back to remember a couple incidents in particular comes to mind and it was my dad he works in downtown. Houston about an hour away from where we lived and so oh he was on his way to work. It doesn't usually come back salon commute and my mom went to shower and he had just left early in the morning. And she put on some Christian tracks a Music in our TV and she out. I'm being serious. My Mom's running out of the shower in her towel telling me. Turn the music off the Holy Spirit to turn the music off and as soon as I turned it off by that back into the driveway. Oh my gosh. And he walked in the door and there were a lot of the near misses like that and I think it taught me that God had intentionally blinded. My Dad's is isn't wasn't the right timing for him down but it also you know looking back and I don't. I don't I didn't see this Dan but looking back there are two meatless. Winstons is not to be God. Wow so I thought he looking back was watching over the entire time. Yeah and and you know raising us in that way for reason. Wow Gosh. Eighteen is such a hard time in your life in a way is. You're trying to figure out who you are you're going off to college potentially and all of these these decisions and kind of inward conflict that you have as an eighteen year old and then compounded on top of that is your conflict of faith within your home your claiming to be atheist. Your mom Mrs Underground Christian. Your Dad is into. I cannot even imagine what that felt like. James Yes I don't know either. I think it was just happening. You know it wasn't you didn't have time for things to process through An SME. I guess in Indian American kind of perspective don't process We don't think about banking just kind of do. Ah were expected to perform So we don't we take a pause and think about. Why am I going to do this? So there was a lot of isolation a depression coming out by ten a culture that I hadn't going out on because I talked to my father by a lot of things. I- conflicted my mom on religion. I didn't feel that close to her. During ADDS to connected a lot of my friends will. I have superficial friends at some friends. But it wasn't really was isolating. That's what led to my freshman and their series as abandoned. I can Tony Eleven about two weeks before going to T. Austin I was in jail cell and that's where I've felt total isolation. Right could not help of myself and on my eighty s did not help me there. And that's when I you know I've prayed to God. He he came four million. Yes you even have yet. And that's when I gave my life to Christ. I stopped at Yale. Center became a State Bureau in two weeks later I started at. Ut Austin said it was just a an intense upbringing okay that is all intents and a lot of intense things is just then about to start college in jail cell At the end of your rope. You know it's interesting I I you know. I've been met with a lot of skepticism from people of when when people get fined religion or find Jesus or become Christians in jail people will awesome will often say well of course you. Are you know you view. What else can you do? But I have met plenty of people like you and other people that I know that literally got takes you to the end of your rope. It's the end. There's nothing else she can do. And it's in those moments that you say okay. I'm going to reach out I'm going to trust and that's what happened to you. See become a Christian. Yes right before you go off to the University of Texas. Do you call your mom or what's going on here. Yes yeah so I had talked to my mom and I think she and I just had a good experience in Chino Got Me back in secret. I remember speaking out during high slow quota. The doctor appointment and she took to her church. rows baptized. Not a big moment for me. I was going to watch this kristen life but I didn't really know how in our context I know I didn't know what was I didn't know what church wasn't didn't even notice any service blessed. I didn't know Chris. Tomlin was wasn't a nine hundred three. Sometimes we could Houston and then moved to Austin. I tried to live my freshman year. Kinda I wanted to be up those worshipping Bible. I also had my oh party lifestyle and so I did that for the first year thing visited the stone once or twice. I remember you know being out late on beacons and then like three in the morning shoot after Asid. Hey It's a party or something and this is really confusing for yet. It No I've heard that there were personnel campus. And I didn't really know what they were this one girl. I grew up with in. Houston she will also not Austin representing it basically message to some people that Newark Including her as I do I I remember sending the space that message out In literally said something like do Christian people meet together talk about God. Is that a thing. And you know. I was brought into Campus Crusade for Christ to save convention of Amid a bunch of Christians there and it was I beginning of a wonderful journey of being disciple than getting taught This is for us for the earth and I took a course. Paul Perspectives Cisco. It's hard to the nations and that was my hero sold in twenty twelve and I remember you know in that jail cell I Felt like this was my savior but now suspi coming my Lord at guy as very task task us premeditated really academic focused. But I started to really buy into Gosper was for me and my life and I wanted to come away from being so this is your sophomore year in college or your freshman year still business. This is about into my freshman year and then I started going to fellowship at the end of my first manure throughout my sophomore years when I was getting disabled and I was learning to live by Christian. Yeah that's amazing. You know I find it so interesting. You just said something that I think. A lot of people who grew up in church can take for granted. You said that you you say you're a friend of basic message and said Hey. Do Christians meet together to talk about God and I remember even as myself personally. I grew up in the church but when I became a believer it it took me a while to like figure out. Like what does it mean to live my life as a Christ follower and so I love hearing you even say that because it's an encouragement to us you myself if anyone that's listening to Christian that when people come to know the Lord like there's so much grace for them figuring out how do I follow him. How do I make my ways his ways and my desires desires? And so I love hearing you speak on that as a part of your journey of trying to go. How do I do this like how do I actually do this? There was one moment that I really felt that You know be grateful moment when I live in the dorm at ut innocent tests this John And I remember getting their rise being nasty go to stone and it is up front on and the Bible that I had was one dollar dollar store you tested by all like you know like we had that one I can hide it in my back pocket and put into bags. It wasn't State Bible internal carry around because risky for us and I remember walking through the halls of Sandjak exit and only net New Testament in my hand out in other and I thought that was the strangest had the first time I carry the word public And I think that moment was full to be in this place I can walk walking freedom. I think that being at ut was that I could be a Christian year. Top of me Because I was three hours from Houston and my dad's is you you know and so that really grateful. I love that which is so interesting because you know in America here we would think of the scenario. You just said as something that would happen on the other side of the world worlds and let you. You're living what a lot of Christians face around the world so you I'm imagining. I can see where your story might be heading is that God has given your heart for what it feels like to be a Christiana Ski Christian around the world. Yes and I agree. It really did I saw I didn't know the person Lingo Bersin culture. I wasn't in a person bubble In that Kinda see that sometimes when when people would kind of talk about missions excitedly I was like why would you go admissions us. I just kind of had some kind of cognitive dissonance where it didn't make sense to go overseas when there's people that are here in the US So I watched my friends on mission trips and short term trips Montera tips and I could never go because of my dad that really did influence my favorite kind of like even. If I could not go I was going to do everything. I can't be increased right process. Okay so what I know next about your story is that your dad finds out. You're a follower of Jesus. Tell us how that happened. Yes well so I had gone on ED mission trip to New York with my church and it was like it wasn't really mission trubisky. I'm like a volunteer service thing. I told my dad was conference. Ousting friends trying to keep it may true route ninety one when she asked two questions about it. He said he goes our church Suspicions and it kind of blew up. it was the first time I'm an member of sitting not living in Houston visiting on a moment Aaron My Dad didn't know for sure about my mom. You didn't know it. All my brother remember sister and I think that was turning point because once he found out just caused a lot of personal problems in our family in the kind of exploded He was really upset and a A series of events that happened I was forced to drop out of ut. My Dad wanted me to stay open. HOUSTON you wanted to enroll in India's Erica's class and you bring amy papers literally somebody to sign that I should throw Jesus in the trash and my mom told me not to ever sign it at that. Because Jesus said you'd be for men of him among other So there I lost everything I had really good friends really community at Church. My Bible around a car. I lost my taste And I really felt I remember sitting on my back porch. Dan Remember Jesus asking me to be Nothing else that I wanted. I couldn't live openly Shimla Madness is Jesus himself enough. I need only extra things Not just facing a lot of the illogically heart actions there and as the young Christian it was just art Then I feel like the only I trusted. Jesus do Me and my Mama and so I felt like I trust take more than contesting my earthly father And that's what use became my Lord. He was more than just a savior. And I said yes. Jesus you are enough. You're you're more than all those other things. You don't need a car. I don't need an education. I sit here on this back porch in worship you and that's all you need And I think now is. That was the biggest turning the life of. When I wasn't just a same a believer I became follower of Jesus teachings at this point where your siblings also followers of Jesus? He's US yes at this point. My brothers were also but because of the precarious nature Amalie they did not know. Vocally support me or Opened up that they were Christian as well because the way that my dad had treated us. Whatever kinda fault that the kids would make you can take on my mom so she would suffer offer If so my brothers chose to speak up not because they were afraid but because my mama took us when we were gone for college. She's home at my dad. Rose or safety reasons. We didn't get to ourselves while a lot of cultural things. That are just hard for me personally to understand. They haven't grown up in the culture that you have in having to wrestle with all that at the same time as well I know you eventually get back to Austin. How did you get back Austin so my dad had it was a miracle I remember distinctly? My brother was also. Ut Austin you're older than I am. He came down to visit. Use Going Back Austin my mom you know being a Indian moms come to you on food in wanting to send it back with him but she's cooking a lot food. One day. I was just ALMAC Jemison. I was just one person that I have faith that goes back to and asthma brothers in the car. Looting the car go back Austin and that weekend My Dad just came out randomly and said five. Go Back Austin but you're independent for me. You have ten days to find a job. You can't support yourself and you're gonNA live with Houston and that was the ultimatum that he gave me says ten days to find a job so I I jumped in the car. I went back to Austin and I didn't really know what to do I. I wasn't student I just went back to my own apartment. We didn't even pay rent in my friends at cover my rent for a while but on day ten I got a job at Laham drag and I I started out fried chips and it was beginning something entirely new season for me so that was a process. Isn't my dad. Finding out it'd be getting out of that and becoming independent. I wow okay guys. I know that you're loving James. A story it's crazy isn't it. It's so unbelievably crazy. How things have worked out? Just wait till you hear the rest. I WANNA stop real quick and easy to special announcements number one. Do you have a recommendation for. I guess that should be on your decade. Do you know someone or maybe you who something profound has happened in the last ten years or are you a completely different person than you were in two thousand ten. If so e mail US WE WANNA know podcast at Jamie Ivy Dot com second tale. You Happy Hour live is in May Fifteenth and sixteenth. And we would love to. Have you join us. This is the live event that we put on twice a year for. I invite two ladies to join me on stage stage. We have a live interview. We have dinner. We have drinks. We had goodie bags. We have shopping downtown Austin Texas Friday night my guests are Tasha Morrison and Shelly Gig. Leo Leo Saturday night. My yesterday Jenner Allwood and Christy Wright. It literally has the most fun girls that you'll ever have come join us. Check it out at Jamie Ivy dot com mm slash events. Okay here's the rest of my conversation with James. Wow did you feel relief that you're able to get out from your housing. I think back to Austin even though it had some circumstances that weren't the best compared to what you had been doing before. Yes yes for sure I was I remember I was. I think that was like twenty thirteen or fourteen And I was twenty two perspectives class. Number it was a Sunday night that I went back I had to drop out of that perspectives class because because I was stuck in Houston because of my situation and there's just so mazing just like drive in Austin and jump backing that perspectives lesson and feel like I belong here. This is writing rugby. Be Free and You know being the word of the began to so much freedom breath of air demand. What cost that came? If my in education or BIOS Doesn't matter I got to do that and not to me was more important than things at home. So no Russian housing. It'll be happy to be back. Okay so yeah I know eventually you get back to school you go back to University of Texas. How did you make that happen without your dad? Well it was hard Tuition these days is not cheap right but it was about a few weeks the after I started this I really think this is the Lord of but few weeks after joining up. Lay UNNECESS- tuition reimbursement. I worked there or year full-time and continue working there. They'll reimburse a years worth of tuition at any university and previously. I'm there's only like starbucks who did that and it was to simply university our mind They do any public university So I I mean. Ut qualified And so I was working towards that Muslim save money but I got really discouraged along the way and About like limits spoon was appointed battled. We need that. I've really sought up the dust bowl. I WANNA be missionary I did that training Math Austin stone or year the face to the base too and I was ready to go full time or Hey this is this is the next step from guy I'm independent. I can do this now. Because my dad's until mile I'm overturning one And you know I also had this like hashing that because I couldn't travel because I couldn't go anywhere Let them go on missions my friends I volunteered people that were neighborhood in Boston. I mean in Austin Myself and I volunteered but some such shocking organizations in the city worked refugees threatened soups of Texas. And even to the Austin Stone got engaged. Some people I saw the salvation. These people were and I wanted to the way to help them to intercity kids Oh I also worked at Lindsay at mission possible Austin and that was just like an incredible volunteer experience for me just being like just being able to serve some people in internet owner Batman her own backyard and for me to we live on a Christian life and and do you have Mexican sesame right here. got a heart for them and I had I didn't really have a lot of ambition. I was like the kitchen manager. And make more money. And then you know transitioning or it may be an end emissions full-time and our my mentors than had asked me to help them meet admission to Africa which was huge him as candy because we're training people from churches not as big as a stone or other take care too soon as small or Asian American churches in in the city that needed help data heart for missions of didn't have the sending Pasadena so we're seeking out about and I went to Africa Told my daddy was just like a service trip but I mean I didn't go too much detail ask. I don't think have communication kitchen but I went and it was a text book discipleship from years. You know read about in perspectives to read about about nations. You know you image people in a hus- by remember mum chanted Ospel someone who's never heard of Houston four persons of peace and through translator. It was just like surreal. I couldn't believe that was actually doing this. I've been wanting to do this higher. Extend Life and finally doing it And it felt like this is what I wanna one do and then I clearly heard the Lord speak over a Bible study that I was having an honey sent home. This is not what a half mile. Oh and that was really hard. So you're going back now. Are you going. You're going back. You're you're going to graduate from University of Texas and then what you're going to go to Grad school. Yes well I wouldn't be basketball wasn't in the plan. I had no idea what to do also on the fight back from Africa just processed my mentor and decided to you. Know my money that I know saving up to Oregon cancel raising and nobody will finish. Undergrad yet for Undergrad. And it was hard because it was in two thousand fifteen I watched all my friends graduated as class and then I had to I two years later in twenty seventeen and I had to re enrolled at. Ut had two years to finish the. I dropped out after sophomore year. reimbursement one year so to take twenty six hours last semester. Oh my gosh graduated has been tense. Ruutel 'cause working working fulltime To and taking class couldn't really go to church for almost a year at the whole Bible studies ash polar apartment To kind of keep the faith going. It's kind of when I felt like I was gonNA leading me towards the business sector when I took a business class at. Ut really liked it and professor got me an internship airman even at Go to mess. That wasn't my heart. At that point I really liked the tech industry I engaged a lot with Austin in in Austin but I you know again this refugees traffic jams and stuff. I really want me to connect those people with the business world in technology world and I. I don't really know what I was doing. Apply to basketball to go to business school because of those actions that was coming easily to me and I got rejected from ut actually for housing first choice. I wanted to stay in Austin. I was Later Gun Nelson. I could go to Harvard in that. Was Surreal for me Wow Yeah yeah it was just it was the Lord I think looking back it was just Guide live just taking me along this path that I had never know that I would go towards. I want to go on missions fulltime at that stage of my life but got us in the also awesome. So how is it when you have with your dad. And you're telling him. I put myself through college. I've been working at triple eight now. I'm going to Grad School at Harvard. Like is he proud out of you. What's the relationship with your father? It's it's a little strange because I think I have myself to some past Rafi independent financially and and finished school. But I also I wanna go to grasp. Let's also take more loans us off a lot of financial questions a lot and there wasn't a lot of trust either of there. Because I you know I was going on mission trips knowing and I didn't have a good presser him And actually to put in my deposits are to go to Harvard. My mom was one. That's positive I am. I didn't believe in that. You said I'm not touching this you can go do whatever so i. My brother was actually just moved. Boston was also guest In Boston that year and so I moved to your actor known anyone else Johnson Boston and joined any foreign being connected to the local church. Boston Gotten Kinda got plugged in there but it was just it. Took two suitcases moved to Cambridge near Boston. And I've started to grasp airlines. I can't I'm determined to finish this without many loans. So actually got a lot of scholarships and it worked also full-time while in basketball. Just because I wanted to show my dad that I could do in loans and So I I graduated last year may two years later Got To do amazing things started. Start up To work travel a lot See a lot I saw you. Yeah People Nice Sylvia's racism segregation in Boston In my travels I was made aware are privileged and I applied to this law school program at Oxford to you know get understanding and that was really when my dad came around When I flew up to Boston for graduation and mm-hmm I date usually? It's a little tense because we don't really know what a relationship is at that point But the second day he actually went the Harvard Coop store bought got my degree like framing E- actually about a video camera out and everything and just. Finally you satisfy Indian parents. It's in I had needed of money to put down into the Oxford. was like they wanted all the money. Upfront expensive expensive in the down. Payment was high And so my dad actually at dinner. That day for graduation he said he wow. There's a huge moment. This is the first time since I had dropped Outta my dad's that's unbelievable. So where are you right now. Starting starting twenty twenty in January two thousand twenty. What's going on now yes now? I just finished Oxford. I took a six month a job at the UN did finish that last last year came back to Boston And I started an house church through any oxygen plant in Cambridge on for Right now don't ask don't have a job because my job is open to start a new job next week. I in China Leverage Smile. Privilege my my my gifting to buy justice through technology in working to the local church. Really believe in that Serving a lot in our church trying to find solutions. Thanks to racial reconciliation in through the church And Work for justice. I think the words that really got me in this journey today as I look from a nice job. And what's next closest one twenty eight and twenty nine sus him. We preach warning every minute teaching every all wisdom that we percents. Every minute of it can Jesus to this end that Labor striving working which at that. Because I know that that's my task to matter what we have in this rural. Don't have Avin Vs Christians we can wake up every day and because we have salvation. You have nothing to gain on. We've already been given everything and for me me. That gives me a lot of purpose that no labors of others communities have that out and I want that show my career in my ministry. So that's kind of where I am into twenty. You see where things are going. Wow I'm telling you I've talked to a handful of people about their last ten years and I might say that you have the most drastic ten years of so far are that I've talked to anyone about. I mean you told us you know ten years ago your your mom is a Christian hiding bibles. She can't Tell Your Dad. Your Dad's do your atheists believing leaving nothing but wandering and looking around and then dot is just taking you on such a journey in your faith is so evident I'm so excited for what's in front of you. You what do you wish for. What do you hope for the next ten years? I think it just continue going my fate I think revolution seven nine is kind of like my Lens. I'm looking through ruin. Seeing a multiple number nation. Shafts equals standing just washing. I WanNa see that happen. I WanNa see that attorney charity I know is going to happen. would be part of it and so whatever it is whatever career shows up for me whatever ministry option you show up. I've learned that God is faithful to finish. We started. Yes plan or for us and it's not only about us it's about him in l.. We can Co Labor with him. See His grand epic story layout and understanding my role in that. And I've been humbled to know that action trying author my own path. It's going to reveal to me what he has for me ski. Once at that time time one day at a time and I of the next ten years I hope to be serving Jesus up to any kingdom in industry rear I don't really know I'd like to start a VC venture capital firm long-term On cushion startups to kind of you know. I WANNA see reconciliation. Church Boston's Ritz. University is hard to deal with that issue. Here it's by our is a one C Tapia solution to that. So that's kind of been what's on my mind lately socio where that goes but the check in ten years unbelievable I. We'll check in ten years but I have three more things to tell you number one in Boston And while I was there earlier in the year my brother ran the Boston Marathon. And so that was fun. onyx on your city. Great City Second. I just flew flew through Boston and had some clam chowder and they're important but my love is so good. My last two questions since number one does your dad know your siblings are believers now. Yes I think. He knows that my brother is. He found my sister's journal one one so he found out that she was believed. She's at Waco. She's a student at Baylor And my brother is also Boston. Still described My brother's as an engineer just like went down to be and I think at this point. You can't really control any of US kids. It's hard now is just how he treats by mom at home uh-huh don't expressly make public. That were Christians. And we don't just rub into space because whatever he won't inflicted on US anymore because we're older But my mom's home in in our ultra. My mom is innocent survey to my dad. My Dad rules over her life and so hard. See that And so if if we wrong she's GONNA suffer more so we don't ask But we try and live life and we're praying and my mom has a vision for salvation and I share that that even thirty years later. That my Donelson Christ and you will become providence. So that's what we're still waiting for. The next question was how fervent do you and your siblings and your Mom Dad Salvation. My mom is pretty intense. US She's the kind of person who wakes but for the morning before my dad is up on her knees everyday issues texting s to pray on a daily basis that she is an amazing woman again like I would not be land. Eh wasn't rice of a MOM's still continues to pay my brother and sister. I don't want to speak for them. You know we're all figuring things out My brother's lever year ear Because my sister you know she's battling her own thing but she's you strong believer. Cuban cussing or dealing with things we all have different relationships interest their dad and so I think one thing that I've learned how compassion for him and I think you're going to be angry at a father. That was so hurtful. You you said But I think from his perspective you know. He thought using a Hindu family into raised US altogether in faith and four of us. Want the other direction and I know that he must feel lonely and alone And so for me. It's like our priorities families to be there or no matter what And then to pray for him to love him show kindness and in Carson Times. But again it's not about us and we can be. Tim represented by Sloven. There's Eddie while will your perspective and your gracefulness towards your father is evident and God's Word is clear about how we speak the truth and in graciousness and respect and so I am prayerful with you that your dad will come to know the Lord. What an amazing story you have James and I really really appreciate you taking the time to share What God has done in your life in the past seniors? It's basically unbelievable. I think you have the I think you have the start of a very amazing book right here in front of you because what is done so your world yes yes so much in your world and so thanks for sharing that with us yes of course it was great. 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History in Five Songs 78: Proggers Go Solo

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History in Five Songs 78: Proggers Go Solo

"You've heard the music now. Here's the story from director frank marshall. Hbo's new documentary the bg's how can you mend broken heart. Chronicles the highs and lows of brothers berry maurice and robin gibb and the evolution of the prolific career as the bg's through interviews and never before seen footage discover how they navigated the ever changing music industry and complex dynamics of family and fame. Watch it now on hbo and hbo. Max everyone just how woken filed. And you're listening to pantheon podcast. History in five songs with host martin popoff production. He of theon podcasts. Let's rock out with martin while hello once again. Welcome back for another episode of history and five songs with martin. Popoff brought to you by the good folks at pantheon podcasts. We are pleased as always be part of this. Vast and ever-growing pantheon podcast network Were available on spotify itunes over forty other podcasts platforms All right this is going to be a really fun episode for me. Because i literally out of all the episodes this episode seven eight. I swear to god. I'm looking at the songs this is. This is the greatest music. I've ever played On one of these episodes. I think these are some of my favorite songs of all time by anybody and You know. I wish i could play more of them. it's funny. I'm going through some of these while. I'll tell you when i when i get to the one but but i'm just trying to find my favorite part of them and i just keep your no. That's it no that's it. No that's it. I mean unbelievable. I this is one of those situations where you just want to play and play this music. Play all of it and just Proselytize about some of your favorite music. But i get to do that anyways. But it's mostly with words of course so all right episode seventy eight. We are calling this progress go solo. I was inspired by being on pizza. Parties sea of tranquility show recently where we just went through our top ten favourite prog albums of all time very surprising lists You know it's hard to do that. As as i said in that show. It's like okay you you you know me. I would probably have thirty or forty albums. that would be ten out of ten. So you know ostensibly. It's a tie right as i was making my list. I thought i was thinking a couple of things a. I'm seeing a lot of albums here by by our individual people as side projects or when they left that prog band Sort of situation. But then also i was looking at some of these records and saying i don't know if they're prog records proper so maybe i should stick a little more conservative and go go with bands and go with things that seemed like more prog records notwithstanding the weird happenstance and i got definitely got called on it but i as i sorted it all out in crimson beat was my favorite prog album of all time. Who knew anyway so it inspired me to to look at this idea And it's it's a little bit of a A narrative in here a concept in here That i always love this idea of these guys going solo kind of like to crash through the limb no veil of Complacency basically right. You know i. It's so so. I'm not talking here about robert rip exposure. I'm not talking here about another gorgeous album. Chris squire fish out of water. The steve howe album his second one What else would qualify. Some of the john anderson album so those kinds of things are not applying here because this is more a situation of of these guys needing to break out on their own having so much creativity in them. They're just bursting to let loose beyond. Even what is a very creative. I mean progressive. Rock is a very creative genre anyways. it's it's almost like the guiding principle of the thing and yet these are titans of rock You know found their way to needing needing to to go beyond and make some of the most beautiful music ever made. I think so. All of these have slightly different situations that we will explain as we go but definitely proud to play some of this stuff and and hopefully turn a few people onto this music all right. So let's Let's start with our first one and we shall discuss. This is roger waters with deja-vu Saw they all right. So i picked that very jarring explosion. Roger is a very political guy. You know i keep. I keep forgetting or i know and then i forget and then i check it out or i don't understand but roger waters is somewhat reviled out there for his politics and i can't even remember what his politics are exactly but you know this. 2017 album is this. The life we really want is quite a political album But and and this song is about a war in the middle east but No he's he's just an absolute rock god to me. I mean there's so many great things about him that i almost don't even want to know what these bad things are about him that That people talk about But this record from twenty seventeen is probably going to stand is my favorite record of the last ten or fifteen years. I've played it. I don't know it's almost too new to yet that i'd be exaggerating to say. I played it hundreds of times. But i've probably played it hundred twenty times one hundred and forty times Love it start to finish Just love his voice. And and you know this this reverie on on you know being at the end of his life and looking back on the world and his own personal life You know with with so much passion But it's but it's quite mellow music. There's some there's some things on here that are little rocky But it's just a gorgeous well-paced album of of different things and even some recurring themes coming back to certain things. Love is voice. love his quiet singing voice. Love his loud. You know loud singing voice which you heard a little bit of here you know that that sort of anxious paranoid scream that you heard and pink floyd at times you know. There's a gorgeous part in here where where he clears his throat and it just fit so perfect in what he's doing this kind of like little campfire acoustic sort of song thing But just love this album death and and the thing why roger waters fits in here is is. I just feel that this is a guy you know. Pink floyd was definitely a power struggle. And you know maybe a tyrant or whatever but here is a guy that that you know slowly took over pink floyd to the point where You know it was. It was a definite huge power struggle in the end and the album. Scott you know quote unquote more roger waters as they went went along more last right until the final cut where you know. People almost talk about it in loose terms as being a roger waters solo album but the wall even had that sort of happening like. He's really taking over the reins in the wall. But i love radio. Chaos and amused to death in the pros and cons of hitchhiking especially amused to death. you know i. I don't really care to look into any of that other stuff. The opera classical type stuff but Yeah this record with this terrible terrible title and not a great album covers. This life we really want is just start to finish. Just a masterpiece of Of again a guy looking back You know and and and with with a lot of sort of despair and sorrow at the state of the world and You know adding up the pros and cons of how his own life has went sort of thing. Just beautiful beautiful record you know. I'm surprised people didn't really talk about it a lot. More than they did So there you go. Roger waters one of these progress gone solo and wisey going solo again. I think he's just got he's just got so much of his own personality and intellect that he needs to pour into music that you know being part of anything that wasn't called roger waters Was was getting to hold them. Back had shackles on all right next one Take this this. Is steve hackett with till these is toys of town. One night in well to All right i thought this was a kind of a neat theme following on from the roger waters because this song co written with With his wife. Jo stephen jones is lovely people but You know this. This song in itself is a short gorgeous gorgeous reverie again on the idea of you know one of these old prague guys later on in life and and it's a very delicate look at it but but it's it's like you know okay. Are you ready to die. When i you know win your eyes have seen enough kind of thing. That's what the song is about. And so steve hackett really fits in here again as just a super high reputation well-regarded guy who you know as as genesis at the height of maybe them then possibly breaking or whatever. I mean we can talk about whether you know they were you know he's leaving this great situation or whatever. I'm sure it didn't look so great at the time but The the neat thing about this guy is that is that he's leaving genesis two to break out on his own and he's made so many albums and so many amazing amazing albums in a lot of different styles he's done blues and classical and And lots of live albums. He's revisited genesis you know so very a lot. So it's not like he's he's got ill will to that material but he's gone and done that but he's gone and done so much more on his own. I i really loved for some reason. I was a big fan of the cured album from nineteen eighty-one which is which is very Kind of synthesizer pop. It's kind of an odd thing from him but my favorite by far is is what what is it was the exact title again. I can remember these titles on to watch the storms That's why i can't remember it. But i love love strutton. Ground on their circus of becoming He he covers a at thomas. Dolby right The devil is an englishman But really really neat stuff on here and and this one That i just played. You is from beyond the shrouded horizon. Which is a double album double studio album and Yes steve hackett. So seen 'em live a couple of times and you know the fans are just lapping. It up they're just loving the whole thing Both times i saw kind of a cushy smaller theatre environment Kind of like a community theater environment. It's it's interesting not not exactly a rock a rock and roll venue. One thing about steve. Hackett that i'm not a fan of Is it's funny. i'm not. I'm not a super huge fan of his loud hard rock heavy metal squalid noisy guitar guys playing right. So so he's it's it's again. This is the other reason. I picked him as a theme on from roger waters. I always kind of joke and complain that you can't set your eye. You can't get your volume levels To a roger waters album because It's going to be absolutely close to inaudible where there's just just some ruminating going on. And then there's gonna be some big explosion Literally an explosion Or and and and loud music. So it's got so much dynamics between the quiet bits and the loud bits that that is hard to even set your stereo and and your jolted awake all the time And that's that's how. I feel a little bit about steve's catalog he's got he's got this sort of Almost like You know king crimson. Ask noise factor to him and then he's got the most gorgeous acoustic songs spanish guitar with that with that gorgeous voice of his over top of it so i guess what i'm trying to say and this i found one. I did peace episode as well. I like i like a lot of the more commercial things that you get out of a lot of these prog bands. That's why king crimson beats my favorite one of those. But but so with steve hackett. It definitely is some of my favorite songs ever done in the history of mankind are a lot of steve packets quieter songs with vocals. So and there's lots of that across the albums but the albums can be very jarring between between big rocky jazzy. Prog bits With his sort of howling tone remember he was one of the He was one of the early originators tapping but he also has kind of a howling feedback thing that he does too but yeah just just one of the great unsung acoustic guitar players of all time. All right let's take a short break. We'll be right back. Okay back again here on history and five songs with martin popoff episodes seventy eight progress. Gone solo This is one of my favorite example of this whole thing. But it's more like this is one of my favorite rock gods of all time but he actually doesn't fit into this theme perfectly in all explained. Let's take a listen. I this is. Adrian blue with nineteen sixty seven dental. What all right i I essentially think that's the greatest song of all time Written by anybody ever this is one of these where playing you a segment from. Four minutes and twenty seconds in thirty seconds of that. I think the song is a total of five minutes thirty seconds. I swear to god this is. This is a prog rock concept album masterpiece in five minutes If you like the beatles there are probably about fifteen beatle esque. Things he does in this song And all of them. I love a thousand times more than the beatles so fifteen times a thousand. So i so. I like this song. Fifteen thousand times more than the entire beatles catalogue Love adrian blue. He's he's probably my favorite creative music maker of all time I loved what he did. in king crimson. I mean those three albums the red the blue yellow are three of my favorite albums of all time and i could easily see. This is where i almost i. You know joking. With pete at the end of our thing you know. I said Do i have permission are woulda i of had permission to include twang bar king and lone rhino In this list because those are those are probably two of my fifteen favourite albums of all time by anybody So i just love his sense of humor. I love his voice his various voices. I love his sense of humor on the guitar. The noisy nece that he can do on guitar. But i love the mellow things he can do on guitar. I just love his whole idea of of how to put together songs. So so these albums. So how how. Adrian doesn't fit. The theme is that he still dove tailing kind of in and out of king crimson. All his life kind of thing right but he's got a ton of solo albums and and the first two are amazing This album mr music had the nineteen sixty seven is from is not one of my favorite adrian blue albums and certainly not one of my favorite albums of all time. Although like i say it has the greatest song ever written in the history of recorded music and unrecorded music You don't including all the classics in renaissance and everybody So throughout all of the history of mankind this is the greatest song of all time so including recorded music and non-record music and So adrian you know he comes to this from so many provocative creative experiences talking heads zappa king crimson. David bowie But his. His own albums are so so absolutely you know like i say the first two level love him a lot the other ones. There's a lot of experimenting and weird stuff going on this side one side three or whatever. It's called stuff you know. There's there's a lot of instrumentalists well he. It's it's almost like he gets a little bit infected by the you know the thing that happens to king crimson later on but i have mention the other reason i just. I just love the catalog of adrian. Blue so much is his band. The bears from back home in cleveland. I believe is right Anyways the guys. He was in a band within They've got the second album called rise and shine absolutely one of my favorite albums of all time as well and even later with car caught fire and all that and even the first one which is just called the bears. It's got that you know. I think it's more drucker. The the guy from mad magazine drew the illustrated. This cartoony picture of the band on the cover. So that's that's Almost a more conservative pop rock situation little bit new wave but more like just uptempo pop rock maybe a little bit like the knack i suppose but with way more brains and just just the geez heartbreakingly gorgeous lyrics and great singing and stuff like that. So we've got rise and shine twang bar king lone rhino. The bears throw that one in their discipline. Beat three of a perfect pair So yeah one of my favorite makers of music of all time. I've seen them live to in a solo situation. I'm not sure i've him with king crimson. Yeah i think. I have actually but you know just so much fun and a solo situation because again he's got that thing he does with technology and he's and he's doing all these cool looping things with himself Very very entertaining. And then and eric slick or were in his band this one time. I saw them. Unbelievable i think tony. Eleven was in his band. Once that i i believe that i saw him with once. Maybe not maybe that was. That was tony levin at the same venue that i saw him with julian eric but Yeah incredible live incredible on record enough about adrian. Blue right All right so let's move on This is our fourth selection on progress. go solo Take a listen to this. Chroma key with graveyard mountain home basement. Isolated earns tables kitchen. Sort Okay so this is a truly one of these situations where i just feel like You know the the point of this episode is is People who are just so creative have so much you know frighteningly interesting creativity in them that they have to leave their situation. This is kevin moore the keyboardist for dream theater. Leaving dream theater and striking out on his own. And i think this is the perfect example of you know a promising band But you know dream. Theater's always kind of bothered me as a band. That kind of gave you what you wanted. Know if if you like. Hey man. I wish rushworth heavier bandmann so okay. Here's dream theater right Progressive all the time perfect productions long long records Heavy all the time Just just no no No eccentricity to it in a way it's just literally If you were to vie to devise the perfect progressive rock robot. It would be dream theater. i hate saying that. You know. I've tried so many times over the years to get into a interviewed. The guys many times over the years But it just never sinks in right but this is this is kevin moore going off so okay so he does a couple of chroma key albums and they're more like they're more like the The second coming of brian eno from here come the warm jets and another green world and taking tiger mountain there. The gorgeous gorgeous Records of Kind of like electronic. Percussion and an innovative keyboard sounds But then he does this one graveyard mountain home. And i swear to god i. This is one That is old enough. That two thousand four. That i have played probably over two hundred times And the the amazing thing about this record is that you know the the cool thing about kevin number one is he moved to. What was it. Santa fe new mexico los angeles when he's doing this album. I think he's living in istanbul turkey. He's lived in montreal So he's even he's he's even building a life of a creative person but but yeah. His music is is incredibly incredibly creative. He's like he's like a musical genius. I think so what he did with this album. He went and searched for a. He found a high school guidance. Film i think from the nineteen fifties. It was about twenty five minutes long. And it's this kind of really sad story about this high school guy whose mother dies and he thinks he hears her voice on the radio. All this is just a heartbreaking story and then he takes that twenty five minute film and he cuts it down to half speed. So it's now fifty three minutes long and he he writes a soundtrack album to it. And it's it's an unbelievably affecting album. It's it's quite creepy and sad and gorgeous produced like it like you know the the the amount of textures and tones an interesting stuff on here. i've heard it said that you know that will absolutely affect almost anybody. Who's into music if you if you play with with that you know watching it at the same time but but it comes with a second disc that is just the music and i think it's just as great i mean i think it's amazing And the cool thing about it and this is the other reason i wanted to have kevin follow. Roger waters is that there's a lot of spoken word and weird buried kind of laughing and sound effects and film reels coming off the real and and it's like either crying or laughing and people talking and You know call to Call to prayer. That you know the big the big horn thing going off So lots and lots of weird effects and then acoustic guitar and long musical passages. So it's it's doing that thing. That always thought the main reason. Pink floyd got famous is spoken-word bits. It always makes you sound really cryptic and wise and it's really cool and people always remember those parts. I swear to god. I mean i think the things people remember the most about pink floyd. The highlights of those records are when there are little spoken word. Bits everybody remembers those. So i thought that was just a genius thing that they came up with to do that on records and that that is the kind of record this chroma key graveyard mountain home. What title is it really reminds me of roger waters album. That's that's basically. The bottom line reminds me of amused to death or or when pink. Floyd is really doing a lot of that on final cutter on the wall or whatever But it's so so creative as just a masterpiece album and again this absolutely fits our theme because this is a guy Who's just fearlessly going out on the frontier and creating new kinds of Of sound collages. you know in in the absolute spirit of progressive which you know he. He politely as he's leaving. Dream theater says an enough of that cheesy progressive rock by numbers stuff for me. Thank you Honestly i that's that's kind of the theme of this episode that these guys see see i. I bring that up and it reminds me of. I can almost do a whole episode on metal guys who have done stuff like this and that that would you know. The the big examples are rob alfred and bruce dickinson And they're kind of leaving situations where they're going. This stuff that my band is doing is really cheesy and stale. That's that's what they're thinking like. I'm growing as a human being. these other. four guys are not growing as human beings. Obviously i gotta go try something new. And it's so so commendable when they do that and the results are usually pretty darn good. I think But in prague the difference is you're leaving a genre where creativity is like literally the main thing so so you're already in a very creative situation and you're getting more creative i think. Okay so our last one Let's take a listen to this and we shall discuss this peter. Gabriel with no self control. Talk all right. So i picked him as the ultimate example. Because i think he's the success story in doing this. It is a clean break so it's a little bit different from the asian blue situation so he's massively commercially successful with multi platinum albums huge huge. Tours he's leaving. He's leaving a promising situation. He's making a clean break and he's making music. That is very very fearlessly. Creative again like a kevin. More steve hackett is not is not really making crazy crazy music or nor is roger waters and you know in a lot of cases while no adrian. Blue is so awesome. That i i can't i can't put him down in that respect but kevin more so far and peter. Gabriel are definitely to hear that went the furthest out on a limb now. Peter gabriel on on car and scratch. You know those self titled albums that's kind of a cool thing to. He didn't name any of those albums. Right we had to name them for him just to be able to talk about them. He's got the scratching. He's got the car screen with the rain on it Or the or the side window. I think it is and then. He's got knelt face melting. Cover so so. This is from the third album. The melt album which i always You know aligned with When kate bush did the dreaming the very creative album this is. This is the big step up and creativity. Because when peter gabriel i i left the fold His his albums were kinda rocky. Kind of poppy. Kind of a ballot. Here and there And beautiful beautiful albums in great songs But they weren't particularly really really super creative. You had here comes the flood and stuff like that but But on this one obviously with biko and games without frontiers in those female vocals and the gated. Drums you've got jerry marotta on here you've got to phil collins on here. So you got all sorts of production pioneering going on games without frontiers. It was a hit immediately because people were just going. What the hell is that. It just had to be played on the radio is just. It's like bohemian. Rhapsody all over again but for different reasons like this is so unique and interesting it just had to be a hit and it was a hit So games without frontiers biko. You know you you think of you know with with the The south african politics and what he was doing here. He's kind of like peter. Gabriel is almost out on his own are creating a world music boom and then he and then he does his whole label and he. He has different world. Music artists With him but then after this he also he also does the security album which is even more kind of world music and more atmospheric so incredible incredible catalogue of great music And again so. Here's a guy leaving the fold. Basically saying i've got so much more in me and so further to go then. I think genesis really wants to go. He was proven wrong in that. Because genesis got really creative and off and did a lot. Lotta cool things themselves. you know. Granted people put it down for being daring but almost daring in a pop sense and so it had it. It was a mix of conservative and Novel in it certainly was moving rapidly beyond genesis That that's something that we could regard them well for i suppose But no peter gabriel. Yeah i mean you look at you. Look at security album and this album They are so interesting and creative and truly in the spirit of prague. I saw i saw the band. One of the greatest shows i ever saw was the first show ever at vancouver. What do they call. Bc play stadium. You know with the with the whole You know kind of see-through dome on top of it. This was the first concert there ever and it was Or for big concert. Whatever the tubes on an album. I loved inside outside peter. Gabriel as the sandwich band if you can believe it on security. So he's at the height of his power and then the headliner was david bowie at the height of his commercial buzz that he he would ever have the. Let's dance album and You know and oddly. I noticed that There's some some later addition of of that or some live album or something out there that that album has been commemorated on a on a proper or that show has been commemorated on a proper cd which is kinda cool. It's it's neat to see that happen. Because i was at that show. But yeah and and what a transcendent experience seeing you know that banned on On the security album So there you go Those are those are five examples of absolute creative titans a going solo from prague situations Progress go solo. You know. And so like i was saying this is not a place to talk about steve. How solo albums or robert trips excellent exposure album or chris squires fish out of water album Because these are leaving the fold. Because you just have so much in you that you that you need to do your on a mission to create And aren't exactly leaving the fold Situations You honorable mentions here. Steven wilson leaving porcupine tree. Mike portnoy also leaving dream theater. Bill bradford in a sense. You know leaving yes to king crimson. That's kind of a big step up. In creativity. I think as well in in bravery daring nece and then he did a lot of solo. Album stuff You know and then went into king crimson. So this is a guy almost jumping from banned banned but but he's moving into more fearlessly creative situations the whole time so it's a little different as well all right. If you dug this show. I certainly doug doing this. Show want to support future episodes go to kofi rhymes with no fee Kofi dot com slash martin. Popoff hit that red support button by me. A coffee or a pint Either i drink a lot of both of those and on that front. I do want to thank This time out. bruce campbell. Dave fisher jeremy french. Christopher clement dan keyes wetter Kevin latham jason leonard at gusting garcia de paradees Also my moderator. What do you call those things. Moderators on the on the on the page on our facebook page which is a pretty hopping page we We have a lot of debatable. These episodes so thank you augusta. N- scott. Ray brian sager jared shelton andrew smith and roberto vega and you could go to martin popoff dot com for all your book needs. Basically there are paypal buttons for everything that is in print. I'm sending out a lot of the angel book almost out of that now I still have the thin lizzy visual biography. I've still got the maiden. This is a rare situation where all three of them maidens are available. I have the first priests not the second prese running out a few other things. But anyways martin popoff dot com. Thank you very much for listening. Go play some of this stuff man. If you had not heard that chroma key album go play that. Chroma key album and go play adrian. Blue nineteen sixty seven. Just go to the song. Forget everything else. I've told you buddy drew just go play nine hundred sixty seven. Thank you bye find. 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The journey from Practitioner to Product with Hassanatou Barry

The Fractal Marketing Podcast - with Gerard Doyle

26:05 min | 1 year ago

The journey from Practitioner to Product with Hassanatou Barry

"If you're a freelancer contractor agency or consultant you know the pain of billable hours. I'm guessing you've also dreamt In in some way if you've tried to pack up your advice then you know how hard that can be in this episode. I'm talking with us on a to bury who is the baby's Agoura has sought a to ease taking her experience as a New York City Babysitter and servicing the babysitting community with advice. That's often hard to find. And often not openly shed welcome to facto marketing. Names jarod doyle. And this is the podcast entrepreneurs. He want to grow their company through smarter the marketing the goal of this podcast is provide you with Martin tips strategies and insights to enable you to grow your business. You'll hear from fellow entrepreneurs says who share their learnings and insights on how they growing their businesses Gilo say. Hey for marketing professionals. He'll give you easy to execute marketing advice. And of course you'll be hearing from me. You might be an accountant a graphic designer. I recruit a startup founder. Even a babysitter. If you're the best kept secret in your industry then you'll businesses just just not going to. Let's get straight into the episode so welcome to the episode Ham so happy to be here to join you. It's great to have you here too and I'm really excited to understand how your business works so first things first. Let's get straight into your pitch and you can tell everyone who's listening what the Babysitter Guru is. It does of course so hi everyone. My name is has not to Barry and I'm the founder of the babysitter grew which is an informational hub for babysitters to seek resources and guide Addington becoming the best baby so they could possibly be an also assist parents in their transitions into seeking quality childcare on lumber pitch that just rolled off your tongue. You've said that plenty of times having when you. That's great so your target market. You Talk Persona Babysitters. These are the people you're educating and you'll schooling up is their geographical restriction attraction for babies. It is or if you've got like a global ambition for this business. I see as going global to be quite honest with you. I mean you could be a babysitter anywhere from the age of eleven up until twenty two years old says a huge age gap where I felt everyone cover late. Why not start as your first job as a babysitter right? You're dealing with little ones. You have a love for children and then it also leaked a little money on the side. So it's a global. It's a global thing for me. I love a ten year old daughter. WHO's about to turn eleven? She's two weeks away from Tony. Eleven and so you sort of pitch tare in that market now. I'd I want her baby sitting. I'm going to do that but she's read. All the babysitter called books and I know she heard this and she's not going to that she would be straight up often saying Daddy. I'm ready to go. Let's make some money on paying my own way. I love independence. I love it. You know what she would would be really good at it sir. I went I went dafna spirit too much so what am came to talk about is when you. You obviously decided. This is a business that you wanted to do. What was the problem program that you identified that led you to creating the business so so majority of my information? Research is done directly through parents through babysitters babysitters Talking to them. Whether it's doing a facebook poll weather is just you know communicating with them through email. I love getting my research directly from the individual themselves south still I just recently did a facebook poll and I do this every week with parents in facebook groups and I asked I said you know why are parents sometimes hesitant hesitant in hiring a babysitter and seventy percent that was out of one hundred twenty parents stated that they are intended hiring a babysitter. Because you melt they can. I trust them all the way right. You had this individual. This is your heart this is. You're everything your child and it's Kinda hard to put your full blown trust into someone to take care of them. When you're away way whether your work on vacation running Erin on a date night you want someone to care for your child especially if you don't have a family member to do it for you right so I saw? There's a lack of training that babysitters have because you can start early as you know. Eleven years old. But there's a lot of train that goes into caring for another human being when the parents not there so I want to focus on training babysitters as much as I can because I myself start at just sixteen but I kinda received training from in house because I come from large. African families always surrounded by cousins nieces. Aunts and uncles. So that's how I got my training from in-home however there's others who kind of need that training from outside so that's where I came about in all right so if I understand that correctly we're talking here about. It's the parents who sort of the problem resided in the parents. Nothing to know I guess it's the qualifications in the stand in the education of the babysitter. So so you'll schooling up the babysitters but for the benefit of the pair. And so that they're more able to select the best the best. He's at the right idea. Yes and then. There's also the babysitters perspective some babysitters sometimes when they do become babysitters at times. They don't know the information that they need so in terms of what to charge per hour depending on the state that you live in or what responsibilities are given to you once responses that are a bit too far you've been compensated for it how to navigate that communication in regards to if you have to leave your current position as a babysitter to another family. How to have a maneuver that conversation with the parents? So it goes both ways for babysitters and parents. And so you'd be developing a lot of trust and authority with as babies. It is because your schooling them and encourage them and teaching them and guiding through does awkward moments because it is a bit. You know it's one thing to get a babysitting GIG. It's another thing to ask for payment or discuss how you might be. Let go or how you want to quit and those kind of things so I guess that puts puts you in a privileged position of knowledge and power in that relationship which is a good thing for business or A. You're in that position. You get the charge. If I understand so just understand correctly the customers where you make your money that's in the consulting to the babies. It is that correct wok. Yeah and is it consulting is it causes is a programs is a authorizations nations certifications all via behavior so as of now is consulting within the New Year in January twenty twenty. I'll be releasing babysitting course of my own so that would be another portion of the service as well where in addition to consulting them are also have the babysitting course. They'll be able to purchase it and go through. Training Chorus is that our review allowed the important information that babysitters need an towards the android receive a certificate of completion. I love this because this is one of my favorite topics. bakes is the idea of productized service. So it's something that you would do and you can salted you say well. There's only so many hours I had a day. How do I product is what I do? And that's it's what a coast gives you but of course in itself is it's sounds gripe and it's hard to sell guess what you're doing now is establishing credibility joe putting a stake in the the ground so to speak in producing the content I and the coast comes off to which I think is the right way to approach it so now. I'm curious when it comes to creating a coast. Have you looked at programs grams and platforms or you following guidelines or. Are you going to sort of write. These yourself in. It's going to be done. The spoke from the ground up. I'm glad you mentioned that. I recently purchased an additional additional course which is called chorus from scratch where they teach you how to build your own course so. That's a bit heavy right now. Some kind in the process of doing it I commit about five hours. There's a day in Going through each module in deciding in how to grow on course it does take a bit of time as a bit intimidating when I first purchase of course myself up to teach myself how to create my own course right because you Kinda WanNa be Independent that process and Kinda you know being the process in creating your own course because it is yours. It's telling your story are your expertise so yes all right. I'm in the position of doing that right now. And hopefully it will be completed by January twenty twenty so the outset from there. It's a great goal. I I've had it in the back of my mind that I wanted to same kind of thing and during that slow education courses and how you put them together and it sounds so simple when you start and then as you dig in. AP Actually. There's a lot in this stripe photos. I thought it was going to base. I credits you for upsetting such a short time line for yourself to achieve that one bank. It's a bit intimidating dating to because it's a lot of work especially if you don't hire someone to do and you're doing on your own investing yourself you're investing your time so yeah so hopefully hopefully gets down by the new. Yea I'm determined it will get done by them great so when you get onto the market you've got your clothes you've got you consulting. What's the competition? What's the alternatives that babysitters have have out there at the moment to the services you're currently offering you're planning to well? What if you didn't exist? Where would these babysitters go? And then how you better than that I guess is the question why so currently what I offer it's offered to nannies. Only the one of the main reasons why even decided to start the babysitter grew because I saw that there were so many resources of information services for Nannies but there is none for baby sitters and I found that interesting because babysitters happened to be the number one short term option for parents right compared to nannies because of the price range. That's number one and for babysitters there on call you. Call them when you need them. Where Nana's is more of a commitment so I thought that there was not enough? Resources is for babysitters and I wanted to create this platform. So currently there isn't a market for a baby sitters however there is a market in terms of course creation so through like the Red Cross. The broadcast has credible babysitting quarters but my chorus is a chorus created for babysitters by a babysitter. Everything they talk about everything that I put into my course I've experienced myself. And I've known other babysitters who also had the same issue in also has questions about it. So that's what I put into my course so directly right now my competition would be right across but then also nannies babysitters we all love each other. Were all within the same group. We have a compassionate in caring for children however the age gap and then also also the responsibilities commitments. A bit different between Nannies and babysitters. It's interesting you say that because we mentioned before recording a Painting York a couple of times and you go to the pox and and as a terrorist you take took my daughter into the pox on the swings and digest that actually there was a lot of nannies and old babysitters they with the kids and they all knew each other. And so as you said there's obviously a real community and you sort of and why not. I mean there's no reason that you conquered the same pocket the same time and have grown up compensation while the kids run around. Do you see see that as part of the way that you're hoping businesses going to sort of propagate through the network is that we provide a great service and a particular babysitters loving what you're doing that they likely to talk and there's this sort of a grassroots virology with what you're doing is is at the plan or have I misunderstood my three weeks New York there. Now you're completely right. There are several nannies around New York City. You'll see them as soon as you walk out of the airport there train station. You'll see them so the babysitter. No nanny community is is one where literally one. We love each other everything that we do. We share tips with one another. We talk to each other every day. We even have nanny babysitting Alex. So it's completely normal however with the work that I'm doing because as more advanced and they received more advanced vacations and they're much older might target market would be just a babysitters her a new baby. Sitters who are just coming in and trying to find their independence and get you know money. And then in addition to that they're good with kids so when it'd be primarily targeted to Nannies as well. Oh baby just be just for babysitters may sense especially in took him at you positioning and how those already products in market better the Yukon at a really nice nation Aaron babysitters and make IOS Said before before baby can talk to each other and before he sort of posts gets going you need to obviously get that out there. The information you'll services you're consulting Tokyo look it about what you've done to date to go to market. How have you promoted your services in Inca people to find you so far eastern a youtube video? So I've started Youtube Channel Back in April of Twenty nineteen of the year and to me. I feel like I have a personality. If I'm talking to you give you my all I'm Gonna I'm GonNa have the blaze the ad it's like everything so in my youtube videos I give you my one hundred percent. There's nothing that's added nothing. That's you know that's not normal. It's just all call me so when I felt when you find someone who you could relate to who you could speak to a friend who could speak to has a sister. It just makes them what you don't WanNa learn more about you so for example. I advertise my services through my youtube. I also do instagram. Live and then. I also post my videos to Lincoln. I Love Lincoln as I mentioned before I love. I think I kind of call myself the beaten like so with lengthen Reno. My market is a bit different because those are parents on Lincoln however I just do videos I feel like my personality sells through the videos and also pitchers so right. Now it's just through those channels and then also talk into babysitters one on one whether I see you walking in the supermarket or the meeting Seen yet outing for example a part of the that's that's the hustle hustle pot that just gets the first people over the over the line. But just looping looping back down to youtube so when you do these videos what do you put like. What's your inspiration for your content and what's been working for you specifically on those videos on Youtube sometime I inspiration ratio would be less for example? Let's say I was shooting a Youtube video today and I just came from babysitting last night and I had a situation with the baby yesterday. I talk about a my youtube channel. Like okay guys. This is what you should do. When the baby's Fussy doesn't WanNa go to sleep so that I'll get my inspiration just from my personal experiences war if a have babysitters for approach me with several questions and I say that they're the same questions I'll do have beyond that as well? I love the idea of doing the from the moment as soon as you get harm after having that experience because it's going to be really roar it's going to be fresh and it's GonNa be some real passionate emotion there it's not gonNa feel contrived like you're making it up. It's like this happened to me today. Guys is has happened to you to say great. What's the what was the one I guess of of Youtube Videos and how many you've done sorry? I didn't Find Youtube Gentlemen Mistake. What's been the video that's work the best for you? Why do you think that's been the case? It would be how much to charge. It'd be homage wrong. I feel like into the running the business. Exactly money is such a sensitive live. Talk it but everyone needs it right live so yeah. It was how much they should charge and the responses. I've gotten from that it's insane. People will just email melanie or section below and just write a message. Like Hey I babysit in Arkansas and I charge seven hours that too little. You know or currently I babysit for four children. The parents only pay me twenty a day stuff like that and I always tell them I give them my honest one hundred percent you know sometimes as I either answer them directly or I personally shoot them email this shoot me an email by tell them like. Hey these are the five factors that you need to depend. You know your rate on and don't ever go below that you know especially for starting out and depending on your age too because I like the younger you are the more easier to take advantage. And that's something I don't want offer my babysitter's so yeah suggests being wrong. I one hundred percent I find really interesting. I had a professional sort of job in salary talking talking about in sort of the way I was brought up. You didn't talk about income here and talk about what Because that's really that's not polite and then I married into a family of Office of actors and seeing as an stage people and they openly talk about how much money they make like not not in the Cross wacky my head but they kept they talk about this this much. They're offering this and how they really awkward. Think a heck can you have these conversations and then my brother-in-law explained to me really clearly when he said look. If we didn't talk openly about it we don't know if it being ripped off no again the right right and so act as toque seeing as an performance. Talk to each other that I do that. How do they know if they're in the right right? And and then he comes from the fact that it's not standard is it's not normal and so what you said then really resonated with me because it's the same thing there's not there's like minimum wage but it's not always gonna be down through the books so you know it needs someone like you to jump out there and say hey this is this is right. This is what you should be asking for an A. gives as it gets people the confidence to sort of be the offer moral thing actually. I'm on a pretty good deal his. I'm going to stick with it side I. I wonder if it's a trend. That's true of a lot of different industries where minimum wages over right and sellers on published alleged. Safa I find it quite intriguing. That you've that's the video has worked for you because I think it correlates well with theater and acting probably a bunch of other industries where salaries op that. Well no Owen so it makes sense and I guess the thing too is again it reaffirms you in that position of power that position para negative way. I just made like authority. You're in that position of authority art and trust so I can say that works really well for you wonder whether it'd be worth yet like coming up with standard rights and so two suggested prices and all the different different variables who spoke about. Is it a full time as it light at night as a four kids two kids is the trouble. I'm guessing these are all factors. You consider right. Yes yes definitely one of the five factors that I say to determine your rate is the minimum wage in a state that you currently living your educational background a type of trading our certificates. You've received in the past your experiences. Also your references so those are all factors that you should put it into effect when determining your rate and the reason being is because Aziza you want to go into a babysitting situation or a babysitting Gig or even interview before you can accept the position knowing that. Hey this is my rave and I'm not GonNa go below it because you have to also be a guarded when determining your rate because you need information to back it up right so if you come into a situation a hey. My rate is twenty dollars an hour. You know the parents are gonNA WANNA WANNA see why. And that's that's what I always mentioned. Hey make sure you have your certificates in your training. If you have previous experiences never go below the minimum wage ever the state that you live in the country that that you live in to me. I just feel like that's not the way to go. especially if you're good at what you do when you're good at what you do. Your your work speaks for a south. I think it's always. It's always better to to go at the higher end. I think you end up shape no matter what happens if you end up pricing low to get work you end up getting the worst word you know and you really WanNa be. You'd you'd rather have. Oh I would rather have a higher expectation of me and trying to work up to that then just always be feeling like I'm short-changed myself and everything's cheap and let's be honest it's parents and kids. You'd I like to think that they're not going to go for the cheapest so this cosimo's forward a little bit let's into next year so you've got the course things assigned to work. Where'd imagine a you is your plan to try to keep scaling? The business through organic non paid so the social media engagement or do you hope to add a paid media. String T- oboe and stopped ought to actually sort of promote youtube videos instagram facebook linked in and actually start to work on customer acquisition. While a happy day actually mentioned that question. The reason being is last week I did this for the first time. I promoted one of my post and it was to talk about maybe consultation services and you know something to Amino you know. Just try to promote this and see where it goes. I invested about ten dollars into promoting it just to see how it wants and so is my first time doing it. I made sure I had a a good story to tell it was anywhere from a hundred fifty to two hundred words and the pitcher the visual that I had was very appealing so kind of went to see where it goes my first time doing it and I thought it was okay. This is my first time. Maybe if I do more often in different social media platforms different response like limp gain or or youtube or facebook right now. Everything's done organically for the New Year. That is something I would look into our for the New Year I'm also working with different partnerships as well to kind of expand the babysitter -gars so hopefully it grows from there. Just organically and trying to partner with different brands and different companies instead of promoting it. Ah that makes any sense. ABS- absolutely look I for what it's worth. I wouldn't be spending money on linked in link. Danny's Dylan organic reach network you. He can still do brilliantly on linked data without having to pay and when he found Lincoln especially for might through a company page which loses all of your personality ride. So we you know your face friends Santas took Non Requested my advice when you didn't request it is I wouldn't be doing that I'd be but I would be putting some money behind facebook. FACEBOOK is one of the best ways to spend small all amounts of money. And there's a chapter at issue who I'm going to totally misquote. Hiya but he's GonNa strategy that he's a dollar a day and he's ideas that every posting doing facebook. You should be promoting antetok audience for one. Dollar is recommendations one dollars seven days but the idea is you spend the dollar because it's the minimum right and then you do it to all your posts and then you have a look at those posts and say which perform the vest and they need more money behind that one so it's a wider. Might in the couple of reasons one if you don't promote on facebook it's really hard to get near h because facebook now is just saturated with hosts and content a little bit of money behind it. He's ideas you put the Dole behind all the posts. Look at which one gets the most out of reach and engagement. Whatever metrics entries one measure by and then just cram it back into that post on pay you know recommendations? That's the best price top got ten behind that one and so you backing you winners rather than loses and you get much better bank the buck so to speak. So you know if he's going to recommend he's been facebook and then try to keep it organic on Youtube instagram and linked in until you really scaled and you feel super confident. Thank you so much for that. Rationale definitely look into that especially for my post for next week as planning at right now great. So what's been the biggest early hit so far when it comes to to this business. What what's the thing you sort of run into and got? That didn't work at all and I wish. I wish I hadn't wasted time summer. Wish I'd have known that before. Do you have any sort of lessons. Learned advice you want to give to anyone who's listening. Yes actually. When people I learned about the babysitter grew did that I was at agency? Let's see so. I spent a lot of time trying to tell them like. Hey I'm not a agency and the reason being because I feel like this is something so new and so intriguing. Some people become curious about it that when they hear the Bean Citigroup was the first met comes your head okay babysitting just probably a babysitter and that she probably pairs parisot acid babysitters you know. There's nothing beyond babysitting in parents. You know and I'm trying to change aspect of it. So tell people. Hey I'm not an agency. But I'll be your go-to to baby sitting expert. When have you ever heard of a babysitting expert? This like the meal and this is something new so yes that's something that I've had a huge hurdle with and they're still parents who come to me like hey. Can you help me find a babysitter and I saw like. I'm not an agency fair you but I can assist you. I could let you know like the tips and tricks in the question. They should ask your babysitters during the interview process. I could help you with that. But in terms of paying. That's not something that I do. I'm trying to do something different. China Arrive Lucien. Is You know the whole caregiving. Were basically just a small thing. Yeah that's a fun thing letting big and I don't think that problem is unique to you in any way shape or form because it's it's a classic positioning problem where People's that arise to they look at you look at the website and the business is trying to. Oh it must be what I already know to people's at a frame things by they reference points have already gotten so looking at will you either a babysitter. Or you're matchmaking service. So they're the two things I know which one I and that's why that position is going to be really clear. It's like yeah. No actually. I'm something new attention to me so I love that way. You said it reminded me of supernanny. Who I think was the British nanny yet He's an early. I think it's sunny Britain. I think probably has made it across to the US now to so but she was always she was always a little bit not a she was a bit full on. But Hey what do I make my kids a lovely so I loved her actually still watch her episodes years back back these to play her episodes on. TLC couple of years ago. Brilliant said look if people want to follow your journey and stuff online. You've said you're on linked in. I think we've covered. INSTAGRAM is Youtube. What are the best places to find your content to say what how you're expanding business sure definitely lengthen? I update everyone. I kind of call them my Lincoln family on everything that you do whether still podcast like this one my speaking engagements hurdles experience so lengthen for the parents in particular or youtube. If you want to see a personality goes to my youtube channel. If you're going to hear me talk and see my face and go to channel Instagram I do anywhere from engaging with my fellow nannies. You know I have a lot of nannies on instagram. INSTAGRAM little snippets tips in here and there on instagram and then facebook and sustained information that I have on my instagram gets transferred to my facebook. Fix Up is a bit more cleaner and editing regardless visuals and you know tips here and there also may face a page brilliant move all include your linked. You've sent them all through to me in emails on my show. Put them in the shine. Sorry if people were like Swipe episode in there and I find on whatever device you're using I'm hopefully link she cliquier them now in some of the social media goodness there but a senator. Thank you so much for your time. I really enjoyed chatting with you and I I wish you all the best of luck with your pulse. Creation and launch Ellie next year kinky semester out. I certainly appreciate this opportunity of speaking with you and I look forward to staying in contact interiors. Thanks for listening to this week's episode. I hope we're able to provide you with some great marketing ideas. That will really help your business as always if you'd like to support me and the show just jump onto chains or wherever you listen to this podcast and write and review those reviews really make a difference and and help me reach a broader audience. If you'd like to connect the best way to find me of course he's on linked in following me on social media connecting and if he could ideas for future sure episodes or your data and you would like to appear on a future episode. Hit me up on lead as well. I'd be happy to have a chat. Thanks look how. Look forward to speaking with you next week

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Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 8/4/20--Guest Forest Boyce

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

38:16 min | 5 months ago

Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 8/4/20--Guest Forest Boyce

"Narrow. Maximum security has been defeated king for. This is the Jason Beam racing podcast brought to you by twin spires, your daily home for Horse Racing News Interviews, wagering discussions, and more. Here's your host Jason Be. Around eight good Tuesday morning the all welcome in to the Jason Bay horse racing podcast brought to you by twin spires. This was attempt to number two at that intro because I said Monday because I'm recording on Monday but it seems like Tuesday because we ran at colonial on Sunday. So I have no real clue what day it is. But I think I got all of them right only took me two times to kind of figure out exactly what is that the whole recording date advance thing like it does throw me off on occasion. You know my world is structured kind of on a Sunday to Thursday week which I've worked. You know I worked Wednesday to Sunday for years like at Portland Meadows that was you know during the off season and then during the. Season you know I'd be off like Thursday Friday or some, and I love having days off during the week like you know if you WanNa, go to a movie, this is all of course, pre the world falling apart. You know if you want to go to movie, you want to do something like that it was easy to do. It was like crowded. You could go run your errands and it wasn't as zoo Saturdays and Sundays and Just good times we're getting ready here in Virginia for the arrival of Tropical Storm Isaiah's I. Believe it is I've never been through a tropical storm or hurricane or been through wakes I think we've probably probably been through three or four good size earthquakes. I mean, obviously, we've all been through. Hundreds of those little ones that you never feel but. Company had a couple of shakers I was in the kingdom for one of them. Figo look on Youtube Seattle Mariners earthquake. It was like, I think it was ninety, four, ninety five. Maybe even ninety six and Albert Bell just hit a home run for the Indians. And we were sitting you know my uncle had really good seats. We're sitting in them and all of a sudden everything started shaking and there's this great video of Ken Griffey junior coming out of the dugout like point to his wife like get Outta here, get the hell out of here. This place is gonNA crumble because the pre the year before they'd had the roof. Collapse in on them or something but you know through we had a big windstorm the day Bill Clinton was inaugurated. It was called the inaugural day windstorm. and. I remember I was stuck in medals class all day because the power went out and second period and so Mr Halstead who Mr Halstead was this like. He was Vietnam Vet and he was you know big grizzly beard of guy and he had kind of a lisp and he would tell like these old story back He was almost kind of a caricature of like. A Guy from that period of time but Basically got sit with him for like five hours in the dark because they wouldn't let us go home and our parents came and picked us up and by parents both work Mr Halstead. One time told the story that still makes me laugh. He was showing us how to use the buffer to buffer the metal. And he goes let me tell you story about the buffering why you gotta be careful. You don't WanNA get your apron stuck in the buffer. Inside like we make sense. But he goes. Back ten years ago they were just kid named Ernie. Ernie was huge into buffer to China medal and he got his apron stuck in the buffer. And all of sudden it started to pose apron away started to choke him and Ernie turn Pale White. which weird because Ernie, which black? Sitting there looking at this guy like, did he really just say that story? So I never got my foot stuck at the buffer in in metal shop back in the day. Oh. How did we get so far off the but yeah, anyways getting ready for the storm. One of our great e-mailers regular Listeners Sally Ellen message me she she gave me a long. List of things to do just in case the storm comes down. Make sure I Saleh I got. I got. I got protein bars. I got drinks I got. By. chargers are already go. So I appreciate the the local knowledge from that to our email. There's. been a lot of good emails from you guys really appreciate it. been crazy busy the last couple of days. So if I haven't got back to just I, appreciate your patience and bear with me of this week is a little bit little bit nutty. We're going to be joined here. Just a few moments by forest boys very excited to welcome forest into the program to talk colonial Dow's but also just her career and writing and. You know she's kind of been a solid regular here in the Atlantic circuit and off to a fast start here colonial vows riding some for shook mcgahey will talk about some of those mounts from opening week yet she wrote a couple that I think are going to be pretty decent She wanted Virginia Oaks last year in the often colors for Mike Stidham and company. So we'll talk with forest boys here in just A few moments, Tony Galileo GONNA join us a trainer from would I think I'm GonNa man the Horse player Thursday ship by myself. I have a few things I thought it'd be interesting topics to discuss and so We will. We will do that on Thursday show and we'll also kind of start to look a little bit ahead toward the weekend on Thursday and Friday. Of course, the jury will be here and we will. Talk to them look ahead to the weekend like we always do you know just a regular all week of shows. But I'm excited for all I was think it was interesting I was I was thinking I go for my morning walks. You know what I ponder things. I. Think like we all do I you know his thinking about the world and in our country and what's going on in the pandemic and the politics and all that kind of stuff and. I was thinking about. Careers. I was thinking about my career and kind of how the twists and turns it's taken and. Wear it might go I mean one of the Nice things about life you know. If you have some some hope in life in any aspect of your life. You know you're hoping that something happens this way or maybe works out this way and I think he got to work to try to get to that but. I was thinking about like when a young jock breaks in or young trainer breaks in or or my case, a young race caller breaks in like you know. I would think that a lot of younger folks when they set out on a path in a career they have. You know you don't have a clear vision least I didn't but you have hope said you want to get to either a certain level or a certain location or a certain place. In your career whether it is monetarily whether it is status. You know you want that or whether you just want to be successful and move up in certain levels. You know if you're if you're a trainer, maybe you want to start out. Somewhere small but your dream is to one day saddle a grade one winner at Santa Anita or to be leading trainer at naira. Obviously those very very very top spots can only be filled by a small number of people. One, two three depending on exactly what we're talking about. I mean. How many people get to be a top five trainer at naira well five. At least for each season. But over the course of twenty years, there's not very many folks that get to have the kind of success. Chad Brown has had todd pletcher had Christoph, Klayman has had I mean these are. People at the very, very top of. The top circuit and their industry. It was interesting because I. I always thought. At least as a race caller, I would you know of course I would love to go to San del Mar or something like that. But I always thought it would be great to someday a living and just be able to work do something like and pay the bills like that would be great but I always thought it'd be great to. You know if I can get to like kind of a mid major track or circuit and get to call a few great ones and you get to to call good solid racing the better liking liking to play like to me I. Feel like that would be overall career win. And but I also think in some respects like there's something to be said for you know being somewhere being passionate about it wherever you're at and. Creating a legacy there like I think about Gary Henson, who was the voice long acres for twenty years he never made the quote unquote big time. But I think he has a really great legacy afford in horse racing in Washington I think a lot of horsemen in betters and stuff think fondly of him and you know was kind of the sound of our youth to me. That's a that's a pretty damn big win is terms of career stuff you know and not even I mean that's not even tangible stuff, but it's it's it's legacy I guess is the word but. I don't know. I was just pondering a lot of that this morning. So I thought I would just air it out here on the air do ought to. Look back just a couple of things from Sunday that we missed didn't get a chance to talk about, of course, the cloud L. Hirsch going on over at del Mar on late Sunday. Philly. Division over there is you know it's I feel like it's not all that. Great. But between CC it hard not to love and all these candy it was like there's You. Know there's a solid little group there of. Of runners and I mean I've said time and time again. Over the last couple of months about Ali's candy like. She just she always seems to show up she I mean I I really dismissed her and I know and part of that was because del Mar she had had a win where she came back against that real nice horse of Billy Kacha. Them Not Sugar Spice I forget the name. What are you talking about? I got real bad with like. Out of my hat but anyways but I remember when they got that slipping God. They're just not that good that group and always candies proceeded to go on and just run super brave races time after time and you know I just. Want to starts back. I just finally said you know what? This gal is just a hard knocking sort so To see her back in. Fighting Mad for Bob Baffert. Certainly, a big player in this actually ended up going off your five favorite. Let's take a listen back quickly to the criminal hirsch from del Mar on Sunday they're off in the Clement L. Hirsch and fighting goes immediately to the FRONTON opens up here to a two and a half length lead. Instantly Ali's candies away running in second dog tag is out third seed to the outside at the rail hanging star. is next and hard not to love will be last in the early stages here and she's backed off about eight lengths from fighting mad who's loose on the lead around this I turn Ali's candies getting a bit closer. Now, she's only lengthen three-quarters behind the first quarter was up twenty three point one, five seconds. So a bull city Oh, takes a hold of fighting Matt on the lead they lead it by a link and a half. and. Then it's Ali's candy on the outside dog tag and Cece right there in fourth by another two and a half hanging stars next hard not to love is last of all seven legs off the lead. The half was forty, six, point five, five seconds up the backstretch they go with fighting mad the leader by lengthen three-quarters Ali's candy second dog tag third of the inside. CC. Nudged along the goforth. She's got four links to make up as they make their way into the far turn that it's hang star and hard not to love around the turn fighting man to catch fighting mad the leader by linked to the half. CC's putting in her bid on the outside. Ali's candy is in between those two and the. Three of them will arrive at the top of the stretch in the Clement L Hirsch and they're into the stretch in fighting man turns for home in front hollies candy fill out trying to come and get her seeing his third furlong to run fighting mad holding onto the lead. Ali's candy second on the outside still trying hard fighting Mad Ali's candy coming down to the mine fighting head wins the clement, Del Hirsch and heads to the Breeders Cup. Hollies candy was second and that it was CC and hangar. Star. So. Finding mad scores a win in the Clement l Hirsch I mean this has become the. the BAFFERT way in terms of winning races. Right. Go to the front set a solid pace let chase and then you know They don't they don't catch it fighting mad at one the Santa Maria kind of in that fashion and you know she was sprinting. Almost. Exclusively as a two and three year old they they finally tried the Mile Torrey Pines and it was like you know kind of a light went on the oddly enough went back to a sprint wasn't able to clear off, get the league at beat by Bella fee, but you know when she gets out there on her own. Very, very tough baffert after the. Suspension, the disqualifications for Oaklawn he had a big weekend Around the country this past weekend and all these candies I mention just another superb efforts. Hard not to love you know kind of the disappointment in the race I mean you know she? She's lost a couple now and she was obviously up against it from fighting mad from a pay standpoint last time and I don't know if she just I i. have to think that the one turn is is better for her just based off results right I mean. I would think would be where they try to kind of make her future at but we shall see also real quick over Saratoga they had the stone, which is a mile and three quarter of always fun Moretti scoring that one. Let's just listening back to the stretch call real quick. The two of them. All right. Together as they come down for the eighth pole it is already who is now prevailing Moretti is clear by three lengths rocketry second Moretti in front, and after a mile and three quarters Moretti has won the bird stone stakes turned out to be close for second. Between. Your to blame and rocketry. There was a secondary I thought you're to blame it was GONNA come. Tang. On the wire Johnny was kind of doing the you know put number Eddie Elena like a whole other pal somebody's rolling. But well, clear should never questioned the great johnny embryo but. Ready getting another win. They a think softening up the class and level. He's going against I think make a big difference for that horses just not quite that. Top, top graded stakes level that I. Think they were maybe hoping he wasn't who knows. Maybe he is. But rocketry rocketry had that incredible run there where he had a couple wins in a row in those you know Super Long Marathon type races and ran a big one in this one just couldn't quite keep up. I looked top stretch looked like he was going to go by in just didn't have. Enough left. Let's take short time out. We come back forest voices going to join us here. It's a Tuesday edition of the Jason Horse Racing podcast brought to you by twin spires Twin. spires not only offers the best way to play the racist from your desktop or mobile device but we also have great offers for our players. visit twin spires dot com slash offers to check out all of our great daily promotions from our players. Pick four bonuses to win Sheri- thoroughbred to harness. 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How are you doing good I appreciate. It takes time for so lots I want to ask you about yet very good opening weekend at colonial obviously three we three wins on each night and including the camp town steaks with what the Beep I imagine pretty happy to get off to a fast start with this meet. At A. The camp town stakes itself it seemed like kind of just a traditional wire-to-wire job where you surprise didn't have as much pressure in that race. On paper it doesn't look like there's a lot of feedback though when she broke sharp I just I'd go with it and you hope that we could hang on and luckily it worked out that way. After the race carrying, God's the winning trainer, she was tearing up a bit emotional wind. She's a small barn that I think basically just runs here imagine it's kind of neat to get a win for her that was obviously pretty special. Oh, absolutely. It's always fun winning for her. She does a great job with her horses actually want to take on her last year at colonial so it was nice to. Be Able to repeat a winning performance couple of winners for sure he too as well. Including vigilantes wait for the fifth stable as a race caller I have to pay a lot of attention to silks and I was excited to get to call the of the famous Phipps silks on the track. Is it cool for you when you get to ride for a famous owner in their silks like that or is it just another race? Oh, absolutely, it's very exciting to ride for a racing dynasty. You. Know they've bright. So many nice and race stomach. Nice horses over the years. It's really cool to be a part of that. Easy Goer ran for those. That was all I. Kept about like I kept hoping to my brain I was GONNA go. Easy Goer. No absolutely. It's really cool. One. Of shrugs other winds of course was North Dakota I thought that was actually one of the more impressive races we saw because you guys were able to real in the leaders after what was a really really slow pace where you worried going into the turn you might not be able to catch him because of how slow they'd gone. But yeah, it was a little bit of a concern going on the backside I realized. I. Was like Oh my Gosh Klaly. We've got a very good feeling 'cause he had to think, oh, they're going to kick in. As well, but having North Dakota a few times. You know it's very confident that you. She'll always have them. You Know Very well-prepared and I knew I I would have plenty of I was just worried other ones. We're going to have kick as well but luckily, you know I knew about at the three eighths while I had it want the Oh that's always a good feeling. It was interesting Merv, and I were talking in the pre ratio because the first couple of of route turf races they did go really super slow and with vigilantes way it seemed like you kind of maybe capitalized on that because you kind open it up a little bit early on the turn and just kind of random off their feet. Yeah. Yes. I mean what a cool Philly you know that that good fifth pedigree there She's just kind of went out there and I mean she really impressed me you know her first time on the turf and you know you get a little chill gone. Able to keep getting along like that. Force. Sports joining us here on the program four shortly before the meat started Maryland and then eventually colonial announce the writers we're going to kind of have to pick one track in stay at it. Was it a difficult decision for you to pick which track you're going to write out or was colonial can always going to be the the option for you See what the difficult decision I have a lot of trainers in Maryland that really supports me and with the whole Kobe situation and everybody's just trying to survive right now it was definitely a tricky situation make. My agent call a couple of train. I. You know what they should. And five out as far as the mid Atlantic where they were planning on running the Giardi at their horses. And it sounded like a lot. You know most of them are going to try colonial. I figured it'd be a good opportunity. It was nice to get a change of scenery You know having been in lockdown for quite some tie. You know it's kind of Nice to be looking at a different four walls you know. It's funny. You say that I was a friend of mine was asking valley. Oh House Virginia are you doing this because my home base is over in Seattle? and. I was telling them. I was like I can't go out and do any of the fund tourist history stuff. Well over here. But I said at least it's different four walls. So I. I was thinking some of the writers might have picked colonial just because of the Monday Tuesday Wednesday schedule and you guys actually get weekends off for the first time ever right. Yes. No, we do. It's just a really weird thing. And it's kind of cool. But Hey, we're doing. We're in coping. So there isn't a whole lot on the weekends so that really wasn't a factor in it it would mainly, it seemed like I would have some good business going down there though. because. I mean. In a perfect world, you just ride a both right. Oh. Yeah. Absolutely. We like we all have up to a job I I think you would have seen a ton more riders. And you know if that had happened. Trevor. He'll he'll hire the helicopter and fly everybody down I. Think. Force voice joining us here on the program I always like to ask for how they I kinda got into horse racing and I know you came to a family with was strong horse ties but was it was racing or was it other stuff? It was actually a combination to my my father died states. father and my uncle. both trained horses, and my uncle continues to work in the sales industry thoroughbred sales industry. And on my mother's side, she grew up shelling and doing things like that. So it was kind of natural that for me to be a writer. was. Younger Years Jockey. The goal because I feel like a lot of parents aren't thrilled when their kids say I WANNA be Jockey. Oh Yeah, my mother did this day is still not thrilled about. She's happy for my success, but I think the frightened service My Dad loved this. You know. But It was somebody I always I always knew what I wanted and I wanted to be able to do that. They need complete college I have a degree in fine art. Yeah, I feel like a lot of Jackson. Obviously it's something you can get started a lot of sixteen and many of eighteen. So I've only known a handful though and Sanguinetti I don't know if you've ever knew her she went to pepperdine and got a degree out there. I only a handful that that I know went the kind of the full schooling route I. I noticed looking at at Equa, base that you wrote early on Oh six. Oh, seven Oh eight, but it was just a handful of races and it seemed like it was all female writers one hundred and forty pounds tack was like a special series or something that you writing in back then. Doing Business arteries amateur rider club of America. Okay. A friend of mine has got me hooked into in she got me set up with that and just to get my feet and see what it was like and you actually watch the first race I ever rowed with that Charlestown on a long shot. winning. Yes, I one, and if you ever see that race, you think she's never going to make A. Little they asked what happened the little live back. wrote a free rate that came from off the pay which are here like You don't really do in Charlestown but I they grown up working for Mike is moving and dickey small, and you'd never had a war with either one of them you always you know always wanted you to hand write them, and so I was in Brady and its own have never actually reached back and hit of course you have talked to shoulder. And I had plenty of lawyers that the quarterback will attack hit this thing. And if you watch a like stand up there, my service and turn around and look where I'm hitting. Awful to watch but I want. That I couldn't get it pulled up. It's like I said I mean you did that for a couple of years right where you get Gallup horses in the mornings and stuff at that point. Yeah. Yeah. Galloping in the mornings and yeah road those. like. A couple of them. Yeah, it seemed like it was like you'd read like four or five for like three years in a row. So so when did you make the decision? When did you kind of think you're ready to to make the decision to make you become a writer full-time? Graduated College ochre then I told them. I told him I I'll get myself a year just best. 'cause I, you know I've watched of people you know having worked Spaghetti. You saw a lot of people come through the bar some of them made it. Some of them didn't. And, he was always really good at getting people going and so I told myself I'll try for a year and it doesn't work out then united need to go find somebody else to do. And the first six months disaster. A. Slow all the coast Actually wound up in colonial. and. I think it was around July. and. I got the agents that I have to this day. Jay. BERTA and. We wound up doing very well there, and by December, we were going to the clipboard. So it was pretty wild. How it all worked out your first thoroughbred win. There was at colonial and it was a twenty to one shot and I looked at the chart looks like they just Kinda let you coast on the front end. Do you have memories of of winning that first one? Oh. Yeah. That was really cool. It was a woman that I grew up. Galloping or she? with my Keith. And It was a horse. I've actually been the Philly at point to point. and I'm Alex asked me. She's like, do you WANNA rider and master man when it comes time and so actually her for that city's first start and I actually went. On to win stakes on that matter. So that meant a lot and I knew the the woman who owned are research very important to me lately. And so it's really special that when. You mention the having the successful apprentice season of being clips nominated and everything you know I gotta think it's exciting when when that ball starts rolling it a little bit but obviously probably to a lot of work, right a lot of apprentices they'll you know they'll put you on as many as they can while you got that allow or were you doing the whole driving around all tracks in the mid Atlantic thing Oh, absolutely, absolutely exciting I went You know nothing able to buy it out to then you know everybody wanted me. and was very exciting. You you mentioned your age and you guys have been together now a decade I mean lots of agents and writers they split all I have a buddy that's an agent and his nickname was bullet because he's been fired so many times. But I'm curious. What makes you jay's working relationship so good because obviously you guys have had good success and it's been now ten years of working together. Yeah I think the keen and I doing that we have fairly similar personalities And I think what also have is back. We both make plenty of mistakes and we own it with each other you know. and. I think that's what as really the Makita success you know come up to him after a bad around say what come on onto your job better. We do. Plenty of that over the years where I'm like. Come on Jay like what are you doing that? Why did you choose that or? You know or I shouldn't have done this in the race and he'll be like, yeah, you shouldn't have but it's all right. We all make mistakes. You know they were very forgiving of each other's mistakes. One that one horse I remember you writing a lot was eight too fast to catch was Maryland bred that had a real long run of success I think it's really fun when you get a good state bred horse like that because you can just really rack up wins and steaks and you kind of always know weekend you're looking forward to with those kinda horses. Oh. Absolutely. A bad word means so much to me and the coolest thing about him is last year Tim key his trainer called me up and asked me if I wanted to have him. And so he's giving him to me Fox M. stuff. So yeah. So I got to spend a couple of years. The races and yeah he was an incredible voice like Tim always ready and so you do. When you got on it. You're going to be right there every time. And then to now get to have him as a Fox it's like. You Are you've been based obviously mostly. Maryland. The mid Atlantic, your your whole career I know you did go down to fair grounds for a bit has riding on a different circuit has been. You think you might ever try again or you pretty content to kind of stay where you are for now. Offended you know. Did another move Yeah. The the right move. Has the you know I have to like I'm GonNa have business somewhere in order to try another spot otherwise we might as well. I can only start at home. Somewhere else. That sounds like a line. A jockeys have been saying for twenty years. Start at home I like that force really appreciate your time. Thank you so much and continued success down here colonial. Thank you. All right. We'll be right back after a short time at to be more racing podcast brought to you by twin spires. The Jason Beam voicing podcast brought to you by twin spires is your home for daily thoroughbred horse racing conversation join host. Jason. Bean has he discusses racing from around the country interviews, jockeys, trainers, media personality, and horse players every Monday through Friday. The show can be found at twin spires, dot com or on I tunes squeaker Stitcher or wherever you get your podcast from the Jason Beam horseracing podcast brought to you by twin spires. This is the Jason Beam horseracing podcast brought to you by twin spires. Thanks forest boys for joining us. Hope you guys enjoyed that conversation. She is just delightful. Wasn't she? I thought so always loved getting to meet new folks in this game and talk with them. It's just such a cool cool part of this whole spears and we'll do that again tomorrow with a trainer Tony Galileo young upcoming trainer up at Woodbine toxin racing with Tony who started his career Portland Meadows I called Tony's first winter. If you believe that back in December. Of Twenty, fourteen Oh. My goodness was that A. Interesting time. Interesting time in my it was it was a good time because like I was that was the month of the I beam awards December of two thousand fourteen, my last month Portland, meadows Leifer Louisiana down shortly after that it was. It was a good time because I was. I was like doing better at the time in terms of like my mental health stuff and it was the first time in a couple of years that I had really enjoyed announcing again, 'cause like twenty, twelve, two, thousand, thirteen and even like Tony, eleven like it was. It was rough. I missed a couple of different weeks because of panic attacks and issues I was calling racist from downstairs in a closed office because I was too scared to go upstairs it'd be far away from my car like it was just. Disaster. Season Folks Disaster Season but twenty fourteen, it was cut turned a little corner there and I really thought like Oh you know what? I'm doing this I'm going to try it and then the Louise Antioch came up and I'm like, yeah, man I'm GonNa this is I'm doing better. I'M GONNA go ahead and do it then it was like crash. Total crash. So. But we'll talk about the the good parts of December two, thousand, fourteen with Tony get his win. But we'll talk would buy and more with him. Coming up on tomorrow's show keep thinking about the travers and you know Tis the Lanka Chuck and the match up there you know with honor AP. Losing I. Still my my thought was that he's not going to lose that much. Steam when it comes to Derby but I do think that. You know there's a little bloom off the rose and in terms of the fact that he just got beaten his final prep. You know I I could see that. There might be some folks that are going to get off that train, and so you know I don't know that he's going to go. If he was going to be six to one I don't know that he's GonNa jump up to eight to one, but he might up to seven one. Maybe. And I'm really curious to think about what happened because obviously, uncle chuck needs points and I think second place would probably get him in or put him on the borderline but. I mean, you have to assume that. All, you know I mean. It's all all hands on deck as far as the Ankle Chuck camp is concerned and Tis. The law has enough points to get into the Derby about eight different times but that being said. Because of the connections and Toga and all that stuff I mean. I can't think that like they're telling bar and maybe they you know we had Jack Nolan the show and like he talked about, you know their relationship Barclay tag and then have had in house I mean obviously how successful it was with funny cide and they've had a couple of Nice horses over the years. But. You know with that group and everything I have to that. The travers is a big big thing. is is much as it pains me to say as someone who's show is sponsored by spires. Like they've won the Kentucky Derby, that group trainer and obviously manny would love I. Mean they all want to win the Kentucky Derby but I'm just saying I feel like they really want to complete that that mantle in terms of trophies that are up there and the travers is that but. I mean, certainly, there are plan of attack is to win the next three races I. Mean you want to win every race right? But? Sometimes. Traders will use races as perhaps or you know, hey, look, we're not gonNA you know we're not gonNA go. Out that Derby's coming up and four or five weeks or three weeks or whatever it what is it now? Oh God it's thirty one days thirty two days. COMES UP, fast doesn't it but you know I mean. I don't foresee any situation where the laws not going to be ready and cranked willing to go. You know I'm I'm not somebody who watches workout and Baffert was quoted as saying, Oh, I wanted to think of something snarky to say about his work, but he just looks incredible and stuff and you know humble Bob he's GonNa try to. Downplay it a little bit, and then he's GonNa come over. He's bringing monster I mean uncle chuck is going to be is really good. You know whether he's Tis the law good we shall see but. It's GonNa be a showdown this weekend and looking forward to that car of course, looking forward Ellis wealthy the Ellis Park Derby. Coming up this weekend and so and it sounds like I think that's where Ano- doors actually pointing a pointing towards so. I was wondering aloud. I try to follow racing as much as I can and a big chunk of my day is spent just reading and updating and checking in on horses and all that kind of stuff and when the announcing thing gets thrown in the picture, you know the part of my day that gets reduced as is that extra research and so I always loved that. You guys. Keep me up to date in the emails with stuff if I if I talk out loud and don't know it is it is much appreciated. So anyways, big thanks to force boys. Big. Thanks to you guys out there and listener land. I want to I. Want to thank you again. July was another record month. I think we've broken our download record. I think like five months in a row or six months or really. I hate to say it. But since the pandemic started I mean we're we've actually we're up like. Over fifty percent since March of where we were and I already thought we were doing good march. So I just can't thank you guys enough I've got a lot of emails from people who have been like, yeah I rediscovered horseracing which. was something. A lot of people were talking about in the pandemic. This is our chance to get new people in. And I haven't really gotten any emails from people who said they're new to the sport because of what was going on then but I have gotten a number of people who have come who came back to the sport during that time out and you know whether we can keep them or not God I hope. So but you know we still continue to work on a lot of these issues we've been working on for a little while. If you are new to the sport if you're just finding out the sport and by the way, if you are new to the sport and you're scared ask questions, email me Jason. Charles Beam. But Djamil DOT COM I get. Emails from folks for questions that I think a lot of racing people would think of is very basic, but we have to remember the learning curve and the point of entry to our sport is a little bit of a difficult one and it's also a little bit of an intimidating one I mean. I had my dad for ten years. Explain every stupid question I have you know dad what's Lasix? Does. It make the horse's nose bleed or what stops the nose bleed all these kind of things and they're not stupid questions because I didn't know the answer I. You know their whole theory of you know there's no such thing as a stupid question. I think it's one hundred percent true for people who are seeking knowledge. Now, if you're supposed to be an expert and you're and you're asking dumb questions, Ben, it's a little different but. I mean, you can't find out an answer like people get mad at jeopardy guys when they Miss Sports Questions, joxer? Oh, they thought. They thought OJ Simpson. Was the leading NBA score of all time. It's like well, yeah. You know that because you've spent your whole life looking at sports but now let's see you go answer something about eighteenth century French literature they're probably laughing at you and your. Chopin. Calmed down over there. anyways. Yeah Jay's Charles be. Bell DOT COM is a good place to email me and thank you guys so much. We'll see you tomorrow. Have a great rest of your Tuesday.

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Who cares Told you and cami last week. You guys didn't wanna listen. I made the late switching together. Lineup nice smart. There you go so a big ben also rusting Colorado mason rudolph is in speaking of. He's out too so Irv smith expected the big game. James robinson Front running running back for rookie of the year. But i don't think he's gonna get To others but the right phenomena. He's out a jared goff cooper kupp both out week. Seventeen golf had thump. Surgeries should be good for the playoffs if they make the playoffs if they made the cooper copy of covert so he's out yup acres did not practice with the ankle injury henderson With sprain so look for a lot of malcolm brown. This week Dalvin cook is of else. Madison is starting this week. Mike davis out for the panthers. Go figure mccaffrey to who saw that common. Yeah so keenan. Allen expected to miss the season finale as well he's been hammered all year so finding give him some rest hundred. Henry silman. kobe lewis is. It could be a big week for mccoy who mcwilliams on say mike wallis not mike danna. I'll let michael harrison bryant both covert up out this week I was going to take a big fire on computer. Ryan comeback from injury for the jets. so here's some bryant's out. I think the browns have a couple cova cases now. So interesting comes out of there with that i think they expect their receivers to back the forest. He was at missed last week. Best on to be back because they've tested negative every day this week so so that was a mess last week for baker. We all baker onto that news Kobe's week to week lag. Although he has not been ruled out this week coach coach such week to week. You're not playing especially in a pretty meaningless games. clinch playoff yeah last newsworthy. Item damon harrison snacks got signed with the packers. Seahawks caught him. Packers claimed them he was all pro. Two years ago for the lines. No giants not With all more when he got traded in lions midseason two years ago and then last year was terrible. Yep so yeah. Hey bolsa de 'cause you know how it's gonna be playoffs are going through lambeau. It's gonna be allow running on out there. So he those seattle cut him so very surprising Mostly only does all right now. Plop scenarios michigan does. There's gonna be confusing. We'll try to make it as easy as possible for you. Guys playoff scenarios so as mentioned the chiefs clinch. The number one seed will serve see chiefs on. They got a bye week. So they're russell guys a buffalo and pittsburgh or the two or three seed pittsburgh was. He doesn't care what they are I think you're gonna see buffalo. Try to you know. They're to match up so it doesn't really matter but buffalo thing's gonna burst. The players book always take consideration when you're picking team so if you're between digs and another guy you know calvin ridley may go ridley only because the bills might bench there stars. We actually last week days saw him. You know scared get caught off late. So yeah because the players there now. Here's the pittsburgh. Afc is hot. you got five ten teams battling for four spots here. I think the first time ever in the you know even would this seconds the the x. Yet so it's real easy for four teams if they went there in the ravens. The browns the dolphins in the titans win in. Indy would be the odd man out. India needs someone needs one of the above to lose or tie or indie time one of the buffs loose so pretty much. All india's news win hope somebody else loses but yeah we'll see it's unfortunate in their hands but those are all teams those teams. You know. they won't you. Don't worry about them. Benching their players get baltimore. Cleveland miami tennessee indie so one to the happens. Nfc are not as tight but still still race. Green bay wins. They get the one. Seeds are seattle takes loss victim seat so green bay should win the bears. They're suck bear but-but-but. Here's the thing. Bears do need a win again in the playoffs doesn't say they need to win right. Yup there's win in the end zone law so right muslim for the bears packers. You want it to go through land bozo for them. A new orleans second third seed. They're locked in same with seattle With munis can get the. I see right bill to get the thirsty. They would need a packer loss and seahawk one. Okay so they can get. Seahawks would need green bay to lose right. The tiebreakers are some. I don't know but green bay doesn't get the saints. Seahawks are gonna be locked. In two or three tampa bay is the playoffs. Depend on seating. They do wanna win though because if they win they get they get lost in that five seed. They get a home game away playoff game vs seized so they definitely want to win. They wanna stay that five seed. 'cause you know who doesn't wanna play cowboys or the football team or the giants. Yeah festival team. Alex smith yeah so tampa bay does have a little bit the play for but again. They're planning so mostly the rams one in there in cardinals winning. They're in they play each other rams can went our can lose than so in the plane an chicago. Chicago loses rams. Okay am cardinals right. So arizon- must win. Otherwise they're all right bears when all cardinals loss washington. The football team won their end. They play sunday night thinking about flex the dale the giants played charter in the early slate. If washington loses whatever team wins that game knicks. right so pretty. Much dallas or giants would be hoping for the eagles to upset the football team. Correct sunday night they won't know the results of dale's giants got to play for their lives winning they could potentially compels washington ones than the rows but a lot of exciting football looking for to all of it never thought it'd be looking forward to watch washington philly plan sunday night but i probably won't watch it. Am i gonna especially military maclaurin. Yup terry's looking. Oh you're not even mentioned him guys. Just got a nullification bottom type up. My notes earlier. Terry has tried to solve. We didn't want to see him play but to. Obviously you know no practice. It's thursday is a big big day out there. L. smith to. I don't even think he's practicing now They cut haskins the football team. So you only had only quarterback on our team is hanky panky name. Tyler hanky yup so he looked good in relief but yeah better than half some today. Yeah they arrested playoff coke some toddler I have choice. They don't so excited for pantley. Baby go pat goes. They're going to get the buy seed they're gonna ri- lambofield other witness aboard will kick the chiefs ass down all right. We'll see so week. Seventeen us last week. I hope he does listen to us. We gave you some monster advice. Naming kamara gaskins coulda had over them with Gronkowski manco gail are all guys. That all went off. If you had almost lineup you can feel we should do that. We should orlando shit our players. Y'all kelsey mahomes missed on that. I think i'm bad. Look you're for sure rogers. Last week. they had one of the worst game of the year. Custom homes the worst game in ten weeks ago. Who i take Macho for having killed soon have their game. No yeah he had eight catches eight straight games. But you know the seven for ninety three all right. Let's go pay attention. You don't make all these players down pick from these players Yourself exactly maybe it'll away. I might do that. The sample not touching on. If i said i was going to do that last week did not do. Not touching it again. Our quarterback this week. So i have a couple different guys I'm looking to go for go towards one name here. is dare car. Hopefully they've let me down this time. is going to go on for fifty seven hundred bucks against denver last time against he didn't do so hot but i'm hoping with this in the last game of the year he's still. He proved that he's a quarterback where that team so 'cause mary came in in china last week i was there carpet. A twenty six points against miami. So are derek carr at this point. Does it matter now. so i i like strove. A quarterback are a lot of guys are like Obviously mahomes all. You got lamar sean book. A good match up Your boy her ververs that chiefs players tannehill houston. I'm on the same boat as you will. Hopefully this guy does not let me down again less tolerant heavy on him. It really backfired. Giving kirk cousins burst alliance six hundred hundred bucks of detroit. A lot of the last three coordinates played the over thirty fancy points in for the last five three points versus a rod ryan tannehill. Tom brady and the shawn watson. Obviously some of the better quarterbacks but still their parents defense is reeling Blaine gabbert got two touchdowns last week relief since week. Also noticing. Ken lines run. These excellent decent Once rush over seventy two yards. When i was king henry with one forty seven. So that will cook. You know madison. If he comes out slow as he did early in is starting this year In all cousins aired out a line through the four hundred dollars you know he loves throwing the ball six hundred bucks. I live so i figured you ago. Kirk cousins You know just just off the off the matchups in one finding note. This is the worst defense in history. Since the two thousand eight lions win owned sixteen. They've allow more forty point games than that team that they won five games the had matthew stafford amicable core by winston yaris. Herbert you mentioned. I do like her with this week against kansas city. Seventy one hundred bucks But i don't think he'll be the top quarterback this week and looking for a quarterback spend eight thousand and go for in the mar against the cincinnati I predicted tax learned this week. So i like i do like herber this week last year. but i will go lamar jackson faith. Yeah ramos gotta win so You know some name those guys on your i. I'm gonna play cousins. Gonna name this guy i'm not gonna play confidently if you wanna take Throwing him do it. John wolford burst the cardinal starter for the rams this week over forty nine hundred bucks. He played solid in limited. Preseason fast two years obviously it's preseason. Nobody cares about thirty. Three completions. Three thirty yards three touchdowns pick. He's a afl. Owner football league product is af younger came in. He led the league in touchdowns he real good throwing the deep ball the inside the number stone dp at a perfect passer rating that year. So you know nobody knows what he's never made. Nfl pass in a game that counts and arizona for three touchdowns last two weeks versus hurt. Jalen hurts and cj beathard They kinda struggled Scrambling quarterback if you know if you go through and look at their deflate this year so like i said at the dart throw forty nine hundred bucks. You really wanna stack up on the position players. go john wolford for four hundred. If you one touch him out there. Right i mean you know. He had a golden cousins hammer. He's wolford's projected fifteen point. So if you go wofford new stack up on a bigger name. Guys might have breakout game. It's not a bad option ago. switched to Rennebach yup are running back this week. i have a couple of wildcards in that i think to do well This guy is a detroit lion tiger isn't he's not asking different johnson. My bed anyway. He's a scrub typhus. Because no bring your low. The michael p ryan when i go tie jackson tie johnson last only a running back down. Their team was against vegas. Twenty two points. Twenty to carry two hundred and four yards and a touchdown with two guests for thirteen yards. So expect him to be the bail back this week for three hundred bucks for a hot new york team that should be the patriots patriots. A beavis has been pretty bad this year with all those code opt-outs so i'm gonna have forty three hundred. They dig it. Tom hammond josh adams. Nothing but i don't think he's really that good. I don't think that might not be when he did. Performance only third down only big game. Yeah the only game. He was not only backsaw. Yup all right. I'm saving money on running back. I'm going jonathan taylor. The jags something four hundred planning a third worst run team versus fantasy running back week. One he got fifteen points versus most receiving He's a much different back now. Much different game plan in the ball. Lot nothing. Jackson was allowed to fifteen points at least last five games the moment so jonathan taylor has been taught even hides comes in but in the red zone. Taylor's guy Takeout jackson jimmy johnson. Taylor yeah i was actually. Oh sorry. I was actually thinking. Jonathan taylor as well I'm happy i bill a bit more research. I like john. Sale will be the number three Running back this week for for fantasy teams or fantasy slates this week. So seventy four hundred bucks is is not terrible for japan. Guys like henri camara. Who for nine k but this guy as well in a bargain bin on bargain shop and not james robinson this week so give me dare john bowe. While wally faster john wiley become pronounced it ranked. It sounded all right there so last week. against chicago scar pretty run defense Fourteen carries for seventy one yards yet. Seven or no five targets So i was. Yeah i think jacksonville is going to be down in this game. So at least he'll get some. Pr value forty. Five hundred bucks. I want to save him running backs. Who are going to be seen to the bill. Belco bats offered teams on a bargain bin. So give me him about a good thing about seventeen. see a lot of players that normally don't play. Yeah exactly interesting so we had no noel. Ryquell armstead no days iverson so we really saving their money. They're saving money. You're going to bring up. Yeah come running backs Will know your name. Jonathan taylor other running back of the had penciled in I'm let you go more. I another running back. I don't background if your name. I got four guys left. Okay well i only one more if you if you When i go these lease david montgomery for one. He's hot ride the hot hand. I said that last week Seventy seven hundred bucks the past one-two-three for five weeks he's put up twenty plus points. Last week was kind of only kind of the but last only played green bay eleven carries hundred yards five forty yard touchdown than the other one becca at the top end. Nick chubb going for seven hundred buzzing. It's pittsburgh pittsburgh's defense has been kinda getting gas lately so why not in a couple of blood. The pre lhasa de jeb bush. So you mean hemmings hundred bucks He didn't have a game yet. Suggest last week But he has to have a decent amount of catches fire for thirty eight yards. You don't really can make jabs moyer. They are banned all wallace injuries. All right like those guys. I'm surprised i didn't have any holes among this someone named couple of guys. I'm gonna go pretty quickly. Melvin gordon. I'm locking in bursa raiders if these discount other Fourth most points of the running back this year. They've lost thirty points to the last. Three games of locked. Twenty three rushing touchdowns was the second worst. I'm unmown they've given with rock. He's been hot the hottest. He's been all year. Almost four hundred scrimmage yards and two touchdowns last four games. And lindsay's out so melvin. Expect to get a big load and the on. Good david johnson mambo. You've seen him come alive lately. Yes thank you with. No do johnson yoko versus titans. Sixteen hundred bucks tennessee's allowed at least seventeen years running back in six of the last seven games. They've done to come off. As to best games of the season over one hundred thirty yards in both with hundred five rushing. One hundred seventeen receiving. So he's doing about fourteen catches twenty russia's he's doing it all. Gimme david johnson. Titans Have to keep up with him. He's capable of so right great. Let's go the andre swift. The vikings liking shitty shitty defense he saw them lasted get absolutely torn. apart of by alvin. Kamara six hundred bucks for dan rea swift. They've allowed twenty two points. Three the last four games on the you know the one game they didn't it was fifteen point so they're not good a swift as dominating the last two games after concussion so expect to be involved a lot early in a lot on the passing game the running game. He's their best running back by far so feed them. It's less game. We'll bubble up form. Expect a while ago. Yeah last guy. Running back josh. Jacobs the broncos only six two hundred bucks probably the cheapest barrel year. He split cares book last week but he wasn't feeling well. I think that is why he so cheap. He killed them early in the year. So a ride. Josh jacobs for sixteen hundred bucks now as it. Yup also were the easily elliott is around that reigns to be so. He hasn't done for touchdowns. His dad went out a hundred Her first time a long time so he could be. Finally healthy in motivates playoff shots. Yeah so like all right. So why receiver give me calvin really eighty five hundred bucks against tampa bay's a swiss cheese secondary right now. Last time he played tampa bay. Thirty five points. Ten catches hundreds of yards in touchdown I don't expect julio this week. I don't know if we put that in the news or not. I don't think he's playing. The ad did not. I didn't see news adolescent weeks but it doesn't matter cameras hot. run out in. Give me come really. Yep he's been absolute stud. I knew you'd name the so. I didn't wind up this week. Justin jefferson verse. Lie down your last. Three weeks of six watts. The score over fifteen points of law seven touchdowns three one hundred games They're not good for the last. Five games jetsons fifty four targets. He hasn't scored the last three games. Despite being targeted in the end zone often tied with 'em feeling four targets three weeks so look for jefferson have a monster game on him up with cousins. I thought i thought about the sack up. Didn't last time did not work out. But this should especially no dalvin cook it some way Receiver especially out with cooper cups out. Gimme robert woods. Sixty three hundred bucks against arizona's defense. They move robber was run Patrick peterson or baker The last time he played arizona hit catches for eighty five yards with eleven targets As aspect nothing. Nothing less next will give me robert woods. Sixty hundred bucks or lifestyle nuclear cups. Yeah that's smart that even with wolford end. Yeah i mean because one thing about the rams the rams don't shove as smart office coordinator play caller. Joe jared goff has just been terrible mostly this year so he hasn't really been able to do something similar Run a ball that wells expect them to do a lot of smoke screens for robert woods. He does do a lot of the places they move them around the end playcalling definitely i think lula benefit So give me this out. Forty one hundred bucks vs cowgirls darius slayton So he's been asked lately last three games. He has nine catches on twenty five targets so so he's getting targeted a lot team-leading twenty nine percent air yards. But you can't get it going week. Fibers to cowboy cowboys eight catches eleven targets for one hundred twenty nine yards down without thirty two passing touchdowns this year at third. Most i think slayton is due for a big explosive game when the giants host. Yeah i like steve. S victoria's Else this receiver. I wish i would've started last week. Jamison crowder Five thousand bucks against england yemen. He's he's he's been killing lately. Donald has been hot because he has approved a draft a quarterback he has a show the next coach and gm that they don't need new record to have him so jamison. Crowder has been kinda hot lately especially against cleveland. That was seven catches ninety yards. In the touchdown. New england's defense is not good. I don't think gilmore's playing this week. So that's even more than merrill star james conner. I can't believe i mean two jets aired but also. Yeah almost donald. I almost did that talking about too much. I would do all right another borgen. What i love the swing. Richie james for the forty niners. Where's the seahawks. only thirty. one hundred bucks He passed kinda born on the detriment. Ninety percent of the snaps last week only got one target. Those timeframe absolutely just pounded the rock. Jeff wilson Also targets lyceum. Only twenty from ten running back but richie james with you can depot both outward teams rolling. Wideout will kill him. You know kiddo. Obviously be the number one guy but a less james played in a game without a you can depot kettles out as well but a monster game thursday night after like nine for one sixty yourself in the test. I think to once i saw. Yeah so don't hundred bucks just volume. He may see what could be a high scoring game or seahawks. I'll take him. Take a gamble Stack of my team with other more expensive as you got any more wide receivers. Yup i got a long list of them. Are they early bargain bin or you got. I got both I like marvin jones this week as well. I don't have any in my lineup. But i do like martin's this week As i as. I predicted earlier in our shows. I'd say kim galley would not play another. Snap of the detroit lions He hasn't he's already been ruled out. Obviously last week we saw. Marvin jones only have a measly three targets for three thousand nine hundred yards. Staffer was not in Chase daniel came in. I do expect staffer the play this week. Because no one unorganized until no so. I do spend saffir to play as long as a full game aspect big output from marvin jones. Yeah that's a big football. I'm not taking that gamble lineup. If it gets closer game. Time and staffers play. I mean i expect to play but you again air. Any big hit the takes though so. I'm gonna name up a bunch of guys here of kenilworth. What's one of them. Brandin cooks the titans. Six nine hundred bucks twenty five targets the last three games Tells us lots seven wideouts over seventeen points list five games so they'll get little Night's game dj more for the panthers the saints fifty seven hundred bucks last five games. His forty five targets all ninety six dollars in three the five games full touchdowns versus saints early in the year dealer. More to in jags. Fifty one hundred bucks nine straight games five straight games nine fancy points four touchdowns in those a five games. He only two games over nine points. The first eleven weeks of the year with zero touchdown so since we have forty four percent air yard share so they're Him a lot. So gimme a wine. A must win game. Nelson agholor the broncos four hundred bucks fixed percent end zone target. Share for the raiders. This year that's crazy. Yeah especially because We have an indirect team. Yeah so yeah but they just seem water angler over wallet right on the why. It's been successful. Denver's face the sixth most unsown targets any other. The most fancy points of the last four weeks six straight games with over four catches for lower. So he's been good a monster game. Mike williamson last week. He let me down. I'm back on this week vs chiefs. That could be resting a lot of players. Five grand twelve targets since week. Eight second most only touch from show for it so he is due for a monster monster game. This could be the one especially with keenan out again. You're jerry jeudy fifty targets last week. He had five drops. Forty two hundred bucks. The raiders that kind of the workload fifteen targets. Yeah he connects on some of those game for fourteen hundred bucks. He's dropping a lot to he's built saw copiously out. John brown expected to return. Kobe lists if he doesn't gabriel davis both good players versus the dolphins from thirty six hundred bucks especially them especially if they if they sit digs to yup. So i'm john brown if he's in known guy stefan digs. Don't need to say much more about him. A decay care of tee higgins Games miko hardman. Watch out for him. Mainly khoza They're going to rest the guys Gimme michael all right all right. Full yup titans. That's how i got. You take the lead here give me a break your always all right so tight ends so i like also hooper this week Past two games. He's had a fourteen plus points before june fifteen Last week Fifteen targets causing having a wide receivers But the week before a six targets five forty one yards. Expect a game similar to a week. Fifteen contestants giants also hooper for thirty eight hundred bucks. Nice outside another tight end. I don't think name guy go ahead name them. So the chargers do not have hunter henry. Right he's out also. The chargers might not have donald parm junior farm junior on a right. Exactly the guys like six. He's so give me stephan or stephen. Fry even me steve anderson For the charters. Tweet six hundred bucks. candidate teams. He had six targets. Were forecast forty yards last week or so and he's only tight on the team list like 'cause farms expected not to play so wake up and see farms in. I'm putting this even affect. Draftkings has not playing five hundred. Twenty six hundred seventy concerned. They're expecting a big game people scraping the bare minimum. Going to go is kings. I seem to do. He's doing them all right. I like those guys will. I don't know about the third guy on the second guy said but we'll see god like monk andrews versus the bengals fifty books fiddler's versatile or the bengals have allowed some big games to evan ingram zaki harrison bryant trae burton and more games earlier in the year. One excuse me one of his better games some fantasy points. He's boxster games over thirteen points with three targets in those five games so andrew's been hot lamar's firing looking through them. You seeing that raving ravens offense. Getting back to what they did last year. Pound the ball on the ball. Pong ball in throws Alec martinez this week. Eight hundred another guy like mike exactly. I the bills two hundred bucks six straight games. He's played in his five targets. Photons in that span it eight catches one hundred thirty yards and a touchdown in week two versus the bills. Buffalo is not good versus so any guitar on they play. The you can look into the technical. They've played they've got over thirteen points. And there's four or five good solid Have gotten burned so and loves him to go. Got all the time so Forty two hundred could have a monster game last guy. I like the one. I'm taking to stick with cousins and the jefferson. Herb smith irv my dog. Smith really doesn't go your face again. Man i really don't know all three but thirty nine hundred bucks lines Four straight games. Ten plus points tied and nineteen catches of the last four games with four touchdowns irv had two touchdowns in week nine lines. So look for hopefully him to catch a touchdown to defense yup on donald locked in on jets. No no. I did have them. I scrolled up and saw this. While i'm going with the jets went three hundred bucks Fits in with what. I'm trying spend so giving the jets and plus new england cerro can now. I thought about the jets like i said. Don't take the jets. Whatever you can do Make extra cash for cleveland's defense versus the steelers at twenty five hundred bucks really mason rudolph san. You've seen pittsburg pittsburg can't run the ball. You're right twenty five hundred bid against rudolph all day seven hundred bucks last week. Yeah okay how much they are. Brown's about mount make sure that is your defense yes must-win game missile game myles. Garrett gomez mason rudolph again last year. That's hilarious here at my job. New three six. Oh yeah. I'm sure he hates mason. Go yeah must all must ongoing. Alvin kamara We saw what he did last week. he barely got the ball on the if i- targets must win game for them because they have to get someone that never once he gimme him. Ninety five hundred bucks i was. He had that record breaking or record tying performance last week so hundred bucks cheaper at the wrong position king henrik. Yeah those are seen those two. She's been all week five versus two hundred. Sixty four total yards in two touchdowns. He's from the second worst team is running back. Look at last week. They lost much piero and giovanni bernardo both over twenty points Houston's even tennessee needs to win they are gonna ride hammered. Only thing worrisome. Here up big lead. They could rest them mr. I don't think they will now. He's trying to walk in their russian title. I think cooks close to but could not playing. So you might haven't been article king henry. All right Do trivia rick. Yeah what y'all is. So this is a game happened week. Seventeen ten years ago. Two thousand eleven noticed game. This game had a four of the top five finish performance that we found teen yet. We've seen in two thousand eleven was garbage game or playoff Implications play vacations actually division implications actually or wasn't playoff mutations for one team Twenty eleven colton balls no because when evolve goo brees the saints. I the falcons. No it was it was it was it was in the nfc Nfc division during the game. Okay i want to give too much away but the nfc division game two thousand is yes two thousand to two thousand eleven all. Let's think the nfc tony eleven. The scores forty five to forty one giants. Eagles now are cowboys. nfc north division okay. She what's gotta be packers now. Packers against one team was the team twenty eleven. The lines will good back then. They were pet. Be the vikings lines. Oh wasn't lying now. Who was a quarterback for the packers in that game games arrived Out in started a you telling me the packers fan over here. I can't remember all that shit. I don t rodgers will not the quarterback opened. Actually that question. That's what i'm trying to think. Back of accent. Oh a cynical. All of us know that seems he. This guy partly That game into a massive contract with the seahawks. All listen came out. I remember that game. Whatever that guy's name that scrub is you got a hinge. He's correct lsu. What the main math. Leeann matt flynn. Four hundred eighty yards passing six touchdowns olympic dan mess. Every at finding twenty are specified onto picks jordy nelson nine catches one. Sixty two three sound man trying to hundred forty four yards meaning sound about right forty five forty one lines. Good wisely that game to win go to play. Yeah and so that matt. Flynn get a huge payday. Jeez yeah i remember it now man. I can't remember the years. And all that shit i got you. That's a winning matthew four k. l. The standards you gotta remember me. I know those number of that game. They up here early in the show. Go pet goal right Cain obscene packing a gun and get that one seed and other civil go pat goal of goals and had some support. Yeah the packers blow. They blood. I will make a lot of fun of them as they bought. Now they won't bears trubisky's record wrestling One win maybe. He's not good. You might have a one on now. I don't know as as a matter pounding lombardi home. You got that right titletown yell who right. But the about radio do the picks picks real quick and then takes and then we'll sign off so be sure to listen to that we will be posted in the The for sure. so what. We had a two-game Lee right yeah so anyway. Yeah we're gonna record. i'm recording. oh shoot i don't know. I thought we gotta do editing. All right now. I mean are. They wrote down when all right added olympics. Antica break cook needed. So we'd sixteen standings and i both went ten six. Finally i got two game lead on him. He's not good. So i want to stick dinner. Hey kobe still only now so to toledo never been to think they had twenty bucks. A kobe's wasn't even fillet kobe by okay. So that's the. Kobe remind yet and it was at pray. American raghu. I'm sorry. yeah did they. They're the same thing. Yes but but waggin brain of kobe. Yeah so yeah so. That's so that's american hybrids copan. Yeah that's not bad though. Yeah twenty bucks down so in a nice panelists announce what do you mean All right so you just keep your head in the game. Packers blow for even all right so started off dolphins At bills this'll be solved. Game top one. Yeah give me the josh salesman deal and we'll take the bills. Yeah i run so mad to take buffalo. But i can't afford to lose a game that one. I wanna miami but we can be buffalo. I can't because they they're still playing for something and miami's playing for welsh right. 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The Imbalanced History Of Rock And Roll: Peter Gabriel's So- A Collaborative Masterpiece

Rock N Roll Archaeology

49:50 min | 5 months ago

The Imbalanced History Of Rock And Roll: Peter Gabriel's So- A Collaborative Masterpiece

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Anyway we're talking about going to bath England because that is where Peter, Gabriel set up shop. When he started going Solo, he converted Asham House into his studio away from studios. He had the house right and he had that old barn that we saw in the documentary both just watch. We'll talk about that a little bit. and He created his musical universe in a converted barn with the studio that he built right there at his house in bath. So that's why we're going to bat see Peter Really it's not surprising that Peter Gabriel built a studio in a building on some property. He's totally the type of person and musician that would do something like that. And you get that vibe from him because of how he's been over the years with not only is genesis music titled Solo Albums, and each one of them conceptually awesome and very different but you can tell that he put a lot of time into. All of those records you're heading in the right direction. Bro, that's all I'm GONNA say and the way we get the head in any direction is because of our sponsors one CBD Check Amended O. E. CBD DOT, com, and by crooked Iberian, the heart of hamper online crooked eye brewery dot com but we always tell people to check him out on facebook because that's where you can find out what's going on over there. Crooked I well, folks we are definitely talking about Peter Gabriel this week on the podcast and specifically we want to focus. On one of the greatest albums of the eighties recorded at Ashkelon House with Daniel and Wa and a cast. That is amazing. We're talking about so the classic Peter Gabriel Album here on the imbalance history of rock and roll you know Ray I still remember hearing this album for the first time I gotta be honest with you. I cannot remember the first song I heard I, remember heading over to wax Trax records in Denver Colorado. Buying the album and playing it from start to finish over and over and over it's still is Mr. Man. Very end it reflected everything that Gabriel had been doing solo up to that point basically said look I'm putting it all together here, and this is the best stuff I have. Now Dan did an amazing job. We should talk for a second about the documentary you turn me onto, which is a classic albums I guess it was on access I, cut it on Prime Video And it's basically a documentary of the making the album. So I don't know man I learned so much. I. Felt like I didn't know anything when I started watching I, know the the amount of knowledge that was thrown out and just the amount of cool information that everybody's shared about the behind the scenes work and how it all flow together and how it all came together was incredible and to hear it from Daniel Anwar's perspective as well as like Tony Levin and Modern Caccia came in and spell other people. And Yeah Yeah. So some great people really spoke about their part in this masterpiece of an album it's one of those albums that's as close to perfect as it gets, and there are many of those in the rock and Roll World I. I really really am looking forward to digging in and talking about this and just all of their cool perspectives and who's on this album because I think a lot of that gets overlooked when you think about this album, people don't go into those details as much because there's a lot man that's all. A Lot look at Peter Gabriel before we get into talking about so look at where he came from Genesis of course, the early days of genesis he gets to the lamb. Feel, something, different happening, and in the documentary David Frikkie from rolling stone talks I don't always see eye to eye with him when he's on these documentaries and stuff. But the one thing that he said was absolutely true when you look at it and think about the first four solo albums are more of a continuum rather than individual concepts records. It is a continuum of something that Gabriel was working on in together they are pure genius individually they are amazing records that set a career in motion that takes us to nineteen, eighty, six and one of the. People that I actually know that was in that documentary Gary Gersh was in the middle of that he worked for Geffen records at the time they'd had them for a couple of records and they were looking forward to a new album from Peter Brian. Gabriel but they had no idea what was going on what was taking so long over there in the country and bath England right from what everybody said in the documentary the one year to make that album was the fastest album Peter Gabriel had made at that point this home recording at the barn in the. Backyard taken you know a pot of coffee and some lunch in walking across the yard with the dog and going to work it. Kind of gives you that opportunity to do it or not do it work in the middle of the night or whatever you want to do, and that became his norm out there. There's connections to this man in Philadelphia the support in love that he got on the radio in Philadelphia for those first four solo records unbelievable because it wasn't happening everywhere. So we got a different perspective here and that was before you came to. Town what was Denver thinking a Peter Gabriel going into the so record I know his earlier stuff from the self titled Albums was getting played on like k. z. y., and some of the Rock radio stations because they had that a oh, are five that not vibe but they were aor radio stations just like w Amar was. So we got to hear a bunch of the songs they went very deep on it at that time it was before so before so they d I definitely heard Biko on the radio I definitely heard Games without frontiers on the radio. That I feel are amazing in that everybody should know and I'm glad to hear that another major cities like Denver got to hear some of them on the radio, which is how we got exposed music for the most part. In. Salisbury Hill another just brilliant song. Yes we can D- were wrecked. We really could yet, but can we talk about the album so I don't WanNa talk about how many it sold them, where it charted and all that we talked about the music and who helped put it together and how and that's where the documentary really really gave us a lot to go one daniel landlord lived in that bar. Pretty. Much for a year and P. wouldn't Peter Gabriel reach out to them and said, Hey, do you wanna work on the next album with me after Lan wa did the Birdie soundtrack with them? He told him much. You're going to be here for a year Sherman I LSU and there was thought of going with a different producer but having done birdie they really felt like. They had a connection there. The other people that spoke in the documentary also spoke highly of their chemistry in the booth as well, and you heard that throughout the entire process and with the engineers to part of the discussion was the song. Sledgehammer. Which Peter Actually had written for what would be his next record he wasn't planning on it being on. So that kind of. Surprised me because you think it's the first thing. Most of US heard from the album it hit you in the head like a sledgehammer. It just had all the elements that you needed to go. Wow this is exciting stuff. Right in almost didn't make it onto one of the biggest outside of the eighties. That's my point about that shoe another one of those few who? I now, who knew moments think about it and that video is absolutely groundbreaking they changed. The video I mean what they did with the claymation and how they put it together and they talk a little bit about it in the documentary is unbelievable Peter one of the many fantastic and and just really cool things about him is that he likes to bend everything in a way that it hasn't been done before he likes to try new things and the way he. Makes a beats into his pop music and his rock and roll music on this album is fantastic and he took so many different styles and put them together to make this album. I can only imagine they were knee deep in tape on the cutting room floor because it was done with two inch tape. The funny thing is they were GonNa have sledgehammer on the next record and That turned around as soon as they started making it because there even though it was done at the end of the sessions towards the end of the sessions, they realized that they were short even in the age of CDs you know they didn't have enough really to make a two sided vinyl album. So they talk to Laurie Anderson, they bring in. This is the picture the excellent. Bird song and it's very different than a lot of the stuff on the record, but it is compatible if you think about what that song does to balance textures, add things to the album. So there's another case where it wasn't going to be on record and ended up in there because they went. Hey, what about that we need we need something we we have room for that. It was great to see Laurie talk in the documentary. I'm a huge fan of her and her music but let's talk more about the songs on so that everybody knows I mean we got hit with so many hit records off of this I. think that was the thing that surprised probably even Gabriel he had like we've discussed pretty good air support from the people who who liked him and loved his music in the radio world in April they released sledgehammer that just takes off. We just talked about it was top of the charts, top the air place drive in sales the Khulna yards. then. They come back with don't give up a beautiful song that I absolutely adore it's one of my favorites and Dan explains in the documentary. Kate. Bush just poured emotion out. New. So they quickly change gears and come out with in your eyes. You talk about you. So Indoor Remodel Kaci and all those guys having a major influence on Gabriel sound. It's right there in it's unbelievable after hearing you door and learning about him from this album. He also did a song with Neneh Cherry called seven seconds and I ended up buying that album and his beats and his music and his songwriting is really beautiful. Could. See in. Nick the. Up We should. You GotTa Watch the documentary to get the full impact of it because they show you sue and Gabriel onstage together as brothers dancing feeling the music. Doc. And there's a Lotta Nice things that he has to say in there too. But one an amazing song in your is a huge hit for Gabriel and it keeps the tide rolling with this album. Here's something I learned during the documentary as well that they did ninety six takes or versions of inure is before they were able to cut and paste them all together to make one out of them. I. Saw that and actually had a note to talk about that and since you brought it up, most people were thinking what's the big deal? Well, in those days you didn't. You know terabytes did a data storage. You had physical two inch tapes that held twenty four tracks probably then right so you take each one weighed. Five ten pounds somewhere in there and they had ninety six of the fuckers in a wall how to decide how to put it all together like a Frankenstein right again, knee deep in tape in that studio from all of the workday did and they they laughed about the fact that Peter Gabriel would sail. That's fantastic. Do it again I? Want another take we're. Getting into talk about my new because the funny thing about him getting into the project I found was his friend kept calling him and tell him mccollum back and he thought he was being punked. So we never caught him back. So eventually Gabriel's like so what's up with your friend? You know he's not returning calls so they call them together it was one of those. Unreal. He almost blew the session because he wasn't calling him back. And his feel on these tracks. Dan does a great job of describing what they were looking for what is concerned was with bringing them in Kenny do this and he just comes in and really flavors the tracks that he's on I mean Miranda played a lot of the drums. Manute Kaci brought, and then later brought to the stage for capable is pretty incredible. I was watching the documentary my son came in and he was watching parts of the with me and he kept asking who monitor was and he loved the way he spoke and he just loved his energy I don't know what it was but out of all the people in the documentary that he saw, my son was most Ron, D'Amato Josiah. So yeah, because you something about Bonnie man that Dude's amazing. But Ninety six versions of that song. And I've heard about some crazy studios stories but that's what you have. First when you have resources, Zach, you have a bar and. Store tapes and stuff that there was no dubbing like Oh let's up this this eight bars over to an because you'd lose quality that the depth of everything so that it was literally cutting and Ken Scott talks a lot about that in his book from Abbey Road Dizzy Star about the physical part of producing those days. I can only imagine it was pretty physically grueling especially when you were. Under a lot of pressure and you had a lot of tape to go through I can only imagine how physically grueling in stressful. It was holy cow. The next track they release is in early eighty seven comes out in February and we were talking a little bit about the video technology for sledgehammer they really dig into when they talk about big time and that's another groundbreaking video from this album. When MTV was really still playing a lot of videos the way that they show you how did the Stop Action and how they did. The frame by frame painting of things that were in shot how they had a direct Gabriel the stuff about the dancing chickens all that and how they pulled it all off is in the documentary we were talking about. So that's something you want to check out if you get a chance yet, it's called classic albums. I think it's on Amazon prime or access TV. So you check it out. They have some incredible albums in that series I, think they did like ten seasons of. It but there are a lot of good albums that have been put together and rock and roll. So it's a good series to check out if you WANNA learn a little bit about some of that incredible music you're listening to. It'll tell you how they got the beginning of Red Rain, which is the next single from the album comes out in summertime somewhere in there between don't give up it in your eyes and the release. Red Rain actually met Peter Gabriel it was so cool. Did. You have a conversation with him. Well, I had to look it up marcus because there was a long time ago but it was November Thirtieth Nineteen eighty-six Peter Gabriel was in town for the so tour and I was working with John Developing Mr. he was there then and I kinda got the word that I should come to the back room of the press box at. The spectrum, the Old Philadelphia, air conditioned spectrum, which is no longer there, and when I walk in the door, there's John Sitting casually chatting with Peter Gabriel and I got to spend a few minutes with them. I just found that being around him made you feel more peaceful or relaxed, and it was really nice and he was very nice. But that was an incredible night and. Just love shows we can talk about that. Maybe in the second half, we could talk more about that because I'm still digging into the singles. We're talking about a lot of records that were released a radio and you look at it one, two, three, four major chart-topping airplay records for Peter Gabriel on the so record and that's what drove the sales and made it legend. In a documentary one of the things I really enjoy and we were talking about it a little bit before we crack the Mike's when they got to the point where sledgehammer was almost done they realized that it might sound better if they put some horns on it. And they could use the fairlight I suppose but they actually went and contracting Wayne Jackson and the memphis horns and his part in there is really funny. Actually that's who's playing those horns those trademark horns on sledgehammer. It's so funny when Wayne Talks about his participation in the recording of sledgehammer and how he was told what they wanted and he's like I can do that. We can do that no problem we got it but he was like man, all these guys are so. Weird and different, and we're good at talking to people and he was really warm and friendly. But he was like I've met basically I seemed like he was saying I've met so many musicians that are so unique and so different that I've had to learn how to adapt, adapt and be able to talk to all of them and to be able to relate to all of them and he did, and if you listen to the horns the horror, they're ferocious on that album. Read. When you're a muscle shoals studio musician and you played on hundreds and hundreds of exceptional songs become hit I think you get a feel for what's going to be a hit or not? You know what else I learned in there that I did not know before. Because of Peter's affinity for Country Music Dolly Parton was actually their first choice to do the woman's part on. Don't give up I was like. I was so shocked when I saw that on the documentary as well and the story behind this inspiration for the song is just as fascinating you know those old pictures of poor Americans during the depression and stuff they're beautiful pictures that are both sad and powerful in the same way because of the emotion that they captured and it says a lot about Peter's person and about how he cares about people funny how that Song really could apply in a broad sense right now in the world her. People need to hang in there. We know you're listening from all different points on the globe and the situation is different everywhere. But our friends and family here in the US are very concerned. Don't give up we can do this right mark. We get through it in good humor you can, and if we help even just a little bit, we're glad to do that. You know what else about that song that I thought was really fascinating was Tony Levin talking about his quote unquote unconventional string dampening method using his kids diapers to get that bass sound any different things he had like the the deadened bay sound and then he would use the the. FRETLESS. Olympic. Over Tony Levin I love that Man Tony Levin Daniel Landlo-. Monte. Caccia. Favorite parts of the documentary without a doubt because Tony Eleven in his work with King, Crimson some of my favorite in that time period his work on this album is absolutely brilliant. His just one of those musicians that you should learn about when they were doing the record Peter and. Dan decided they needed some different sounds in some different fields. So Larry Klein, and this is my reference to the recording scene in bath England Larry Klein, who at the time was married to my girlfriend Joni. Mitchell was actually doing a session nearby and got word that they might be looking for somebody to do some base work. So he went on. By, to Lasko and brought his wife with him and he laid down, Alana lines on Mercy Street 'cause he also loved poet Anne. sexton. Witches who that's on was four. So that's kind of a cool way to tie together to Larry and Johnny go to the sessions. How is it that Jones? Voice is an added somewhere in there in the layers. Of all the amazing voices, the help the comprise the vocal parts of Peter Gabriel. So she could have been on their offering that a unique sound that she has no wonder why not you know that's a very good question because a good thought to wonder because having somebody like Joni Mitchell right there near studio wall, her husband's land down some slick base. Burns. Up at the house. While you're down in the born bring jody born give me a little something for red. Rain, you know Joni there's no way. Johnny was up at the House having tea when all these musicians ernest studio please she's definitely in the midst of it. All these talking about Peter Gabriel so marcus, it's making me thirsty man I know I'm parts to we definitely spoke a lot about Peter time for a beer on the imbalance history of rock and roll. You know one of the things that I appreciate is anytime I go into crooked eye brewery right there York in Montgomery in the heart of Hafbro always feel good and that includes feeling safe about where we're hanging out you know what I'm talking about Marcus I definitely what you're talking about as during the covert pandemic, it is important that people feel safe when they're going out and about very important and crooked eye has that warm safe five and they're doing everything according to the governor's directions there the they know dance what's in everyone's best interest but they're still serving Markus that's right. Take out your growl or your crowder, your sixteen ounce cans all still there all. 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I thought it was interesting in the documentary and I guess this was a more common practice that I was aware of what they did because they weren't sure what order to put these songs. They recorded the front and back ends last five ten seconds of each song, and then took the clips in dubbed the monkey sets in all different ways so they could hear what? It is sad going into sledgehammer in ways that didn't end up as the secrets. So they finally go through that I. Guess they must have had a bunch of cassettes by then dad over a hundred did something like one, hundred twenty or something like that how to fuck you keep them straight that's what I'm saying I. Know It's like it's like when you get demo tapes for something you know and you put the ones in the Yep consider that this one will think about and goodbye, and so you have one hundred cassettes and there's like twenty five thirty of them in the middle and there's ten over here and. Over there. Know. Put, look it was the eighties not fully digital technology. That's why the videos that we talked about in the first half of the podcast today or even more amazing when you think about it because they couldn't just l. let's put a Pastel. Watch over them. You know what? I mean. They had actually do it. They settle on this run order and it becomes iconic classic and certainly his most successful album and he seemed very happy about it. He never really cared about commercial success. He just wanted to make the music he wanted to make. So he starts with Red Rain in they're trying to get a specific sound and they can't quite get it all from what they're recording. So who did we get sewer Coppola come in? Do some hi hats But the funny thing is is at the very beginning of the record Peter Gabriel wanted no symbols. No Hi hats and Daniel. Landlo- had the talk him into that because he was like, what are you talking about? You're GONNA need it. And the thing is that's the way Gabriel had operated all his self titled out that there was no big high end. He didn't want that as far as the sound goes, and if you think about some of the sound you get on those first four solo records explains a lot. But here the beginning he's blown away Daniels, talked him into it when they do the part where they show you how all the parts flow together when they put it together on the board for you, it's an amazing part of the documentary. So you start there it's very dramatic. into the big one that almost didn't make the records lead have right. And that opening song read rain is extremely dark extremely heavy, and then it lightens up a little bit with sledgehammer but sledgehammers still definitely has a little bit of darkness to it and boy what a booty Shaker that one is I think that's one of those songs like in black that everybody knows everybody knows sledgehammer those of us who love Kate Bush I remember seeing her for the first time on Saturday night live in the seventies and gone, Oh yeah I'm GONNA to be checking in on this one and keep it up with her career. There she is doing don't give up which we talked about a bit in the early part of the podcast. It's a song of hope one of my favorite performances ever live was Peter Gabriel in the round. I believe this may have been at the new place in South Philly Marcus and it's a phone booth on stage. It can't see the band light on the the old fashioned increase phone booth any walks up and he Uses the phone as a microphone, and he played all sides of the house, the whole things turning. so He's played all sides of the house but when it starts really getting to the dramatic part, you know he he starts walking away from the phone with you wonder how long is the cord they made it to the he could stand insisting at the end of the stage leaning on it leaning over the crowd with singing. His part into the phone own like goodness before that this was always one of my favorite songs that nobody talks about much from this album after that it became a stone cold favorite song and nobody really talk much about is that voice again co written with David Rhodes who didn't really talk much about in the documentary roads and Gabriel work together for years that's a great song. It shows you the consistency of that album. and. How song after song it stays at a super high level and doesn't let up throughout the entire album. If everybody knows sledgehammer Marcus when you flip the vinyl over and you put on in your eyes, everybody loves that's on I. Don't know anyone who has ever had a bad word to say about in your is I have to agree with you on that and say anything helped keep that big a few years later but. That song is fantastic everything about it just makes you. It hits you right in the fields. Again that whole album hit you in the fields it's the unit that he put together firing on all cylinders Tony Levin Right. You've got David Rhodes Motto Kaci. You have the extra flavors of Larry. Klein Yusuf door also on backing vocals that no one talks about much. Jim Kerr from simple minds. Yeah. No. I saw that when we were doing our prep for this and I was like, Oh, my God. Simple minds holy cow. He's like a gym drive down do the vocals. Okay. I wonder how many takes he did and it's all those little things that when you add them up, you can see it in the documentary hell Limo adds up including I never heard of Ronnie Bright, but he does the real low part on in your eyes in your And that's part of what makes the song locked in your brain. That's true. Those vocal harmonies are fantastic. The way he layered all of the voices to make it flow and to make it just move through and then Richard Tee on piano the piano is beautiful. That's. All over that. You know what? What's really great is we're kind of updating the research department. So we're developing things on the fly I actually got a proactive text from the research department while recording this podcast. Yeah. What they say, Ronnie Bright the BASS vocalists that we're talking about owning your is yeah. Any of these groups ring a bell for you the coasters, the cadillacs, the Valentine's he also sang with Jackie Wilson? We didn't even ask for help and they gave us some that. Right there shows you Peter, Gabriel's knowledge of music inside and now to be able to pull from so many different various areas there really are some places on this record. We can see his movement towards wall mad and his his own explorations of world music beginning and taking commercial shape and after that. You have. Mercy Street, which is another beautiful song from the record that I don't think enough people pay attention to. It's definitely considered a deeper cut. But again, this is an album like you should do with all rock and roll albums listened to it from front to back listen to it all the way through you get a feel for for the album when you. Listen to it all the way through and the special way especially that first time you hear at four some perspective and support Marcus my brother in his position these guys went to the trouble to make one hundred cassettes to figure out what order to put these songs in to make an album. It meant something it means something and you know what I found even. If you're a spotify person, he just listened a lot of music on on stuff like that. You can get the album and listen to it in order. So do it yet don't don't hit it on shuffle the album on shuffle listen to it one through nine. All the way through gives you artistic intention this public service announcement from the imbalanced brothers here the history. Big Time Time brother, and I want to thank everybody for their support of what we've been doing on his fucked up. But somehow our getting there that song is another one. It's more like sledgehammer than the other songs on the album we talk debate about the video and stuff but beyond that, it's him exploring different sounds again, the lineup on that song alone is pretty solid and Stewart Copeland played the entire drum track on that song as. And that Dude's wicked I mean you've you've heard him in the police and his other stuff that he's done over the years including a lot of studio work in movie soundtracks as well. He is an incredible drummer fast as lightning and in that time that dude was lightning fast and he hits really well. So part of the crew on the next track, we do what we're told and also on that voice again is l Shankar. The violinists everybody goes because L. because is his full name is pretty amazing. It's lack Shimin Narayana just call him L. Shank. Easier again, a small player in a big production whose contributions and make a difference in hell, the album sale and how it feels. Who else came in for one Song Nile Rodgers he's a legend one song he came in and played on all these musicians came in and did that with Peter Gabriel so that tells you that some of these me what these musicians knew about Peter Gabriel and how much respect they have for him as a musician and for who he is in for what he does. So to be able to get these these kind of top tier players to come in and do this on a once you know just come in pop by do a song and then buggy pretty incredible and it says a lot about you as a musician. Now, Peter Gabriel I've been recording at the barn for a number of years right knew that it was their people. Knew if he was recording in the local community, right? Yes. Do you think that there was an element of Holy? Shit hear Gabriel's got going on over at the house you got to go over and see what's going on and when you get there and go. Oh Jim Kirkum on. We got a part for you. This was coming by Hey, can you L. Shankar over? Here Kate Bush, how are you love you hunt come on him you and spend an hour or two in the vocal booth things like that were going on against the backdrop of what they've been creating. It's so cool back to the seventies remember there were festivals and all kinds of stuff and bath. It is kind of like its own unique little community within the overall. British community. So let's talk a few minutes at least about the success of this record worldwide I realized I did copy down all the charts in US only hit number two but it was number one in the UK which when you're thinking about a man, that's probably the big thing for him and them a lot of the people who put the record together giving was. Happy with what was happening here they were selling multi-platinum and it had done something that they'd hoped would happen when they put Gabriel on the Geffen roster a couple albums before that, and that was him becoming an international superstar and along the way he got to be a spokesman for a lot of the causes, a musical styles that he was fond of just because of. What he had just achieved gold and platinum and countries like Spain and new. Zealand. In the Netherlands Hong Kong Germany, France and Belgium. It's sold everywhere on scale big time. So to speak that's on par with albums like back in black and rumors and some of those, and I know it didn't hit those numbers and sales but that kind of world domination on the charts. Is Pretty incredible I know that a lot of people like the measure that stuff like by sales, international sales and all that numbers. But when you look at an important album, the did something while giving us all joy great music and so if you at the same time, it's hard to top. Peter. Gabriel. So and that's why we're talking about it here on the podcast. One of the many great things that we discussed about this album is, is that it related to so many people of different musical backgrounds and that is the power of Peter Gabriel's world beats and understanding of putting them together to make the sound that he made. Well, think of it this way. Okay. Mentioned Dibella earlier, right? Right. He's older than me by bunch of years and then think of me where I was at an eighty six and then we're you were turning twenty right yet three different slices of American. Rock. And Roll, life as far as our ages go years apart and yet we all could agree that this was amazing. fucking record to the highest level ever people like John who were part of Peter's career path like what boat supporting the with airplay and interviews and all that stuff. This is validation of everything you believed about this man, his mass appeal, not only generational, but across the world. Gargantuan and this is the kind of music that is still not only relatable but relevant songs like give up or even more important. Than when they were written and the importance of that song because you can feel the pain and the suffering, and still the light at end of the tunnel make a big difference and that resonates strongly you know what else that song does and I think it's one of the most positive impacts it has. It inspires empathy for the people who were in the store. You're right and one other little Peter Gabriel factoid that I heard from that little amazing documentary is one of Peter Gabriel's biggest influences was Otis redding because like Peter Otis was a drummer before a Sam I saw that house like That shows you how much of a student of music. Peter. Gabriel is and we've mentioned him throughout this whole thing the man who pulled all this together we haven't really talked much about Daniel Lamont genius. He really is if you look at the wide variety of people that he's worked with from the new artists to the legends Willie Nelson Emmylou Harris he were to Neil Young Bob Dylan right you most famously produced the Joshua Tree and Achtung baby my two favorite youtube records. But he also produces bands like sports who are on the newer edge of progressive music. So he's an amazing character and when they made all this, he was still young. Bach and I didn't realize and you don't really get the picture from his look in the video but he's like late sixties now really is I think as you pointed out worth digging deeper into an might be a good reason for doing a producer series series of podcast within the podcast where we just focus on the producers just talking about what they've done and in getting. It on people's radar. So they get the bigger picture, which is part of what we're doing here growing this family tree I love learning about music and I love learning about the people behind the scenes because they all have interesting tales to share and they all have interesting stories about what was going on inside their heads at the time this music was being made. So to hear all that and to have them share all that hopefully as inspiration for people moving forward so that the next generation can create great music by learning from their predecessors Just learn research department is working overtime here. 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The Inner Workings of an NWS Office

Weather Geeks

40:36 min | 1 year ago

The Inner Workings of an NWS Office

"The National Weather Service a lot more than the blaring alerts on your TV when there's a tornado warning in your area or the notifications on earphone about the Severe Thunderstorm Watch issued for your state. The National Weather Service operates over one hundred and twenty weather forecast offices across the the country and each office constantly issuing local Public Marine Aviation Fire and Hydrology Forecast Twenty four seven and we thank them the national. The Weather Service never sleeps because the weather never sleeps. I'm sure my next guest can attest to many sleepless nights on the job. Keeps delmon. Is the meteorologist in charge. Ars for the National Weather Service Peachtree Sinti or National Weather Service. Atlanta's we like to say and as I know personally. This area rarely has adult weather day. Keith thank you for joining joining us on the weather. GEEKS podcast now. Thanks for having. Yeah keep an eye. We've known each other for a while. We both here in the Atlanta area. You came to the National Weather Service Peachtree city office in Atlanta. I Guess Back Twelve two thousand twelve hundred twelve. And so you were the warning coordination meteorologist for the National Weather Service Shreveport Office two thousand seven to two thousand twelve and I want to talk about what that means means. You've also been at the National Weather Service. Regional training thinner I guess southern region in the techniques develop meteorologists reason headquarters Techniques Development Element meteorologist Fort Worth Fort Worth. What was that like what was so? That was an interesting job because it was during the age when the Internet was starting to it really blossom and so we were developing things in fact some of the stuff that's on the web now but code. I wrote back when I was there. Okay thousand so you've kind of kind of had your hands hands in all kinds of things. Let me just continue to go through his resume before we dive into all things National Weather Service. Because you know I think this is a first force to have a meteorologist in charge on the podcast and we're going to dive into the inner workings of a National Weather Service Office. He was also senior hydro meteorologists and the Lower Mississippi and west Gulf river forecast centers. He has has a master's degree in meteorology from Florida State University. I know a little bit about that place and a Bachelor's degree in Atmospheric Sciences from Northeast Louisiana University as well so we have this this tradition on the podcast where we like to ask our guests how you got into meteorology win. That all started for me. It was just like any meteorologist you talk to and it starts at a young Asia so funny story. I grew up in Pennsylvania. North West Lake effect snows. Where thing Gary we were just south of the main core or the snow belt off lake areas but we still get pretty good snow and I was always the kid that would turn on the lights outside to see if it was snowing late at night in the wintertime? Ironically when I was five years old my parents bought me one of those United States. Puzzles that puzzle pieces right right right so I knew my capitals new state so the young age but more importantly there was a show that ran out of state college it was called. AM weather. I know if you remember. Remember the short classic for those that don't know we have a lot of young listeners. May Not go back and Google some of those. Oh great stuff so I used to run it twice a day. They'd run the morning show and they'd rerun it later in the evening and I watch it every time they'd come on and I had my puzzle pieces out and I would cut out construction paper. The blue and the red in simulate the warm front cold front on my map my us matt right just like they would do it on on the show so it started in early age. And that's so consistent and I I remember some surveys for our field and so many people in this field that That really send it to the level that Keith has ascended to in his his career at it started when we were kids. I mean that's my story to so and now he is the he's the person in charge he's the head of the National Weather Service Office here in the Atlanta Atlanta area. And as I said it's technically all the National Weather Service Peachtree city but I know your twitter I think says NASA National Weather Service Atlanta right right so I think that just makes Petri cities suburb south of Atlanta explained to her. Just give a sort of an overview as we kind of dive in here. What does it mean to be the meteorologist in charge of the sure? So I mean just. It's like any job. There's a manager or a person that's in charge of the personnel the inner workings of operations the equipment. Any issues the facility. So I'm also the facility manager so things go wrong with the facility. I gotta deal with that everything from the janitorial contract to the to the you know the yard long contracts I deal with those hiring the retirees as the it encompasses everything that a typical manager would you are. You are a manager of but do you still get your hands your yes. In fact it's it's written in my job that I have to work at least ten percent shift work so that's her at least one every two weeks and is short-staffed as we've been in the last couple of years I've worked for more than that worked as much as twenty five percent shit so and that's midnight shifts. That's worked Christmas now. One of the things we want to do on this show. It was really just peel back. A weather service offers listeners. Talk to what what are the shifts are the three standard shifts so our office and this varies by office. A lot of offices will set up their shift rotations around their key weather events for us. You know we know that summertime convection is an issue. So we've backloaded the shift schedule later in the afternoon into the evening so we have a lot of people around for the convective component of the day but for us we run nine shifts a day nine nine different shifts law. So there's nine different letters that somebody can work on on the calendar and each one has a separate responsibility. There's three of those nine or specifically dealing with the short term forecast and the aviation component icy at Hartsfield. Okay we got to shift today. That look at the long-term forecasts saith days three through seven two shifts who are dedicated to upper air and public service data collection. One shift is right are only. They are glued to the radar. That eight hours in that eight hours may shift for example. We're looking at severe weather potential later today day tomorrow. We're going to move that person to where we think the best chances are so that they're working radar during that time right and then we have what we call a decision support shift. That's it's for dealing with emails. Partner relations phone calls anything to help spread the word like position. I see we have that shift once a Dan right now. You staff a typical National Weather Service Office. I WanNa Kinda go there. I know that I mean you're the senior administrator in charge there at the office but I know that there are science operation officer shutout Steve Nelson as in that role in here in Atlanta warning coordination urologist in other sort of lead forecasters castle. Just talk about what you have. An office. Typically show the typical office and again not all officers are the same but the typical office. You have the meteorologist charge myself. And then there's as to whether managers that work underneath. That's the Su- science and operations officer. Let you mentioned Steve Nelson. They're responsible for the training and development staff any research projects researched operations type stuff. And they're sort of on the leading edge of the new technologies and things that are being implemented in the office to make sure that the staff is up to date on up to speed on things. We have a warning coordination meteorologist. They're like the PEO- the office. They're always at meetings partner meetings etcetera. It's Dave Nadler for for us and He's been for a long time actually was Huntsville. WGN before he came here and then we have three senior forecast or no. I'm sorry five. Senior forecasters those are the shift leaders. There the shift supervisor so we each each shift. There's a a senior forecaster on-duty they they're responsible for the shift. They need more people. It's their call right and those usually come to us first or to make sure and to see what the villa billy's are. I will discuss how we want to best approach. If there's supplementation to the to the schedule that we need to do and then we'll come up with a plan on how to do it. We're talking with Keith's delmon WHO's the meteorologist in charge of the National Weather Service Atlanta office about the inner workings. I'm certain anyone listening to the weather. podcast right now. A benefits from the National Weather Service. Whether you know it or not and I wanna Kinda go there now because a lot of people don't realize sort of relationship. The National Weather Service Office has between say their media NIA partners. You guys work quite a bit with local television stations. WHO's usually the front end of what most people see but beneath that its you all your your warnings? You're the the TV stations can issue watches and warning doing that. Talk about them. So yeah I mean the a lot of the data. We have twenty one meteorologist working in our staff and always looking at the data. The things that we don't have to worry about are the things the folks have to worry about. There's other things they have to do But we obviously are diving into all the data mining it and determining what's upcoming wing and then when we get to the warning phase they're the ones that ultimately pull the trigger on issuing the actual warning so when that warning goes out the TV folks get it through our dissemination system awesome The variety of ways people get on their phones etc if it's a tornado warning or flash flood warning but then those folks the TV folks help communicate the message. They're they're sort of helping us with the voicing and giving context to the warning on aiding in what people should do how they should react to the warnings if they're in it and or helping US convey the message of the of the day or the impacts that are respected and I wanted to. I WanNa Kinda stay there a little bit because I just. I don't want people to understand because I know we have a broad range of listeners as podcast people that very much cadet explain that but others that are like oh I didn't know that One of the things that I'd like Mike for you to share with us also keys and I teach at the University of Georgia and so in my intro classes. I just want the students to know how things happen. So National Weather Service is part of Woah as the parent agency of the National Weather Service and National Weather Service has these predictions enters hurricanes. Inner S. P. Storm Prediction Center. The I guess the EMC mm sea and others. Can you talk about how information filters from these national sinners into the forecast offices. And then how you make us so for as as we're taping this here in early February in southeast. US is under a severe weather threat including Georgia and so somewhere there's a model that was run and Somewhere the storm prediction center is making some decisions and things were kind of filters into the W. F. O.'s. Talk a little bit about that process. Sure so each center and you named a few of them there's Wbz the weather prediction center of the Hurricane Center. The climate prediction center the storm prediction center. Space weather prediction aviation aviation creation weather center. So all of those centers are we call them experts in their field right so the hurricane center obviously experts in tropical. Wouldn't want them necessarily they not that. They don't know anything about winter weather but that's not their focus so they're not doing snow forecast say that's WBZ's realm and and But for example you brought up the storm prediction center. So they'll they'll run numerous models. Come up with some sort of blend An Ensemble whoa approach and highlight the area of greatest threat for the following day an outline that in their various products that information shen is used by our forecasters to then hone in even further on timing on Specifics that the storm prediction center has out looked They're not necessarily issuing the warnings now. They are coordinating the watches. They're the ones that own this. She ate watches both severe thunderstorm and Tornado. And they'll buzz us if one of our air. If our part of our areas is the area that they're interested in and we'll start are discussing which counties we want to include and we may have a reason to include for example. We don't like to split the Atlanta Metro up in watch. We just rather go head. Include the whole Medoro zero. There's a philosophy behind okay. Same thing for North West Georgia a lot of times. They'll want to include the punts field area and then there's there's a little corner of North West Georgia they cuts out part of the Chattanooga TV market and it goes into. The Tennessee covers. Also part of Tennessee well geographically graphically. It doesn't make sense for us to cut that out. So we'll include one or two counties in our area so these are the discussions that will have on. Can I ask you about that. Because I've seen some. I saw something recently on twitter twitter social media that had this sort of tornado warnings by forecast and there were some things that we look at it. And you're like oh man. There's an uptick uptick tornadoes in that region but in there may be but there's some sort of philosophy differences in the offices in terms of why the numbers might look different right sure and everybody. Nobody you know that there's reasons why somebody would issue a tornado warning and not or continue on and a lot of times. The tornado warning for for an a one office. This will extend all the way to the county lines that they don't have to reissue a small little warning for a part of the county that ends of their line because we don't have the ability to draw well into the next warning area over so it's just easier to extend it all the way we'll if that storm dies then we're never going to reissue at the line so therefore you have one morning on one side and one on not one on the other so you start getting these oddities that may accumulate over time and you end up with what looks like some oddities. In the way they're drawn on out and we are back on the weather geeks podcast. I'm talking with meteorologist. It just keeps delmon. Who is the meteorologist in charge? You might hear it called the M I c the National Weather Service Atlanta and we're peeling back the inner workings of a National Weather Service Service Office. People know that the National Weather Service is out there. I think they have some understanding in. Let me just step up on a little soapbox for a second and say that the National Weather Service is one of the the greatest values in the federal system. I think Keith correct me if I'm wrong. I think the overall budget for the national weather services over a billion about it ran a billion dollars that one billion yeah and I think I did an analysis one time for an article I was writing for Forbes and I think that broke out about the cup of cup of starbucks coffee for every American or something along those lines huge value. Think just stop pause as we're listening to this and think about your day without without National Weather Service forecast and again remember. We said that the National Weather Service's there underneath pretty much any weather information. You're getting think about your day. Think about transportation tation flying energy farming national security anything and so. I'm glad that we have keeps delmon here now. What are or some of the specific forecast challenges that you have faced here being perhaps you're in Atlanta? Or maybe even before that in Louisiana there any particular challenges that that really and I know one of the freezing precipitation right now but just from your in your years of experience would have been some of your biggest forecast challenges on just so. There's everybody's career has a couple of defining moments so to speak and obviously that speak to some of the challenges we face but the biggest one is probably the snow. Jimmy Vesey Snow Jam. Snow podge whatever we want to call it. He's referring referring to the big event in Atlanta. I believe is around two thousand four hundred fourteen. I remember it well Keith. Because that was the year the meeting was held in Atlanta and I was president. So yeah yeah that was the week later. And then we had an ice storm followed on the heels of that and so that was a very rough two to four week period during that time. 'cause we were also helping with MS meeting. That was the weekend re re briefly. Recap that for the listeners. So that was an event where it was a very subtle feature in the upper levels coming through and there was a lot of question question early on whether there would even be enough moisture in the atmosphere to breathe. It was very dry. Atmosphere do points were really low and and and so there was just models. Were struggling to produce any amount of precept and you know if if on a normal day if it's raining and we forecast a tenth of an inch of rain and we get a quarter of an inch of rain rain. Nobody seems to care right. It's not a big deal but when you're talking about snow and it's magnified time's a factor of ten or in that case even higher ratio was higher. Now we're talking a big Deal and that's kind of what happened was the models weren't seeing a lot of precip out of it we ended up getting a little bit more Q.. F. So to speak out of it and the ratio's hire so am get off for the uninitiated meteorologist you mentioned to terms. I'd like you to Canada. I'm right down a little bit. You mentioned q pf You mentioned ratios. Okay break those goes down fighting for the person that's not a weather that may not so. PF is the call. It quantitative precipitation forecast is basically the amount of liquid precipitation. Were were expecting and you'll hear that term Q.. PF that's that stands for liquid now the ratio snow ratio snow liquid water equivalent. Basically and. We're when you take rainfall or liquid and it converted into to a snow. There's usually some sort of ratio when you melt it down to liquid water equivalent and typically. It's about a ten to one ratio she for for every a Point one inches of liquid water. You get. That's one inch of snow if you do the math so you can see. There's a factor of ten magnitude there and and so with higher though this was about twelve to fifteen on that day so we had very little liquid equivalent but multiply it times. A factor fifteen. That's why Louis ended up with two point six inches of snow right right and at and the interesting thing and I know you have to deal with people like the governor's office and all kinds of stakeholders because this was not jeff about the actual weather forecast. It was about the timing. It was about the fact that as I recall just where we did some just analysis for class particularly cold day a guest in so we usually are hovering around thirty two thirty three stuff froze of media so that that particular day we had had a prior just prior to that a pretty good Arctic front come in and and so the air mass leading up to it was already cold a typical ingredients winter weather as we got air the cold air in place it. It doesn't come in after the fact but the temperature at the start of the snow was around thirty and we migrated down to twenty seven even in by by seven. PM At night we were twenty one degrees and it was still snowing. look historically in Atlanta There have only been four four times in Atlanta that it snowed under the twenty-seven degree threshold. Wow and that was one of them. The other one the most famous one thousand nine hundred snow jam that was also in under twenty seven degrees snowfall To other events occurred on weekends. So it's it's rare fair to have the combination of snow and less than twenty seven degrees and that's ultimately led to the quick rephrase on the roadway. Yeah and I just so ease up on us down here in Atlanta. This is nominally event. Van We can handle two to three inches of snow but when it's two to three inches of snow and it's really cold and things start freezing and we have a different infrastructure. In terms of snow I lived in the DC the area and the they have a little bit more than we do. But it's still they react about the same as we to in Atlanta so just kind of ease up artist hills to and we have great point we have hills. It's here and topography. So what about me. I know you in your office. I mean with Hurricane Michael. Two thousand eighteen came in southwest Georgia still packing hurricane strength. Winds hundred mile per hour gusts What was your role or exposure an office with Michael? So Michael was the first time we had ever for issued hurricane warning from our office when I was thinking and Obviously we don't take that lightly it'd be in the first time we'd ever did. And of course in context context. We didn't have the ability to do that many years ago. They added that ability of the inland offices over the last ten. Is that something that was added Post. Sandy or is that different the whole post. This all came about post the two thousand four two thousand five hurricane seasons Katrina with Katrina and right. The we went into the Greek letters for naming Greg and and how far inland those storms had an impact and the inland office's ability to convey a message. And so that was added for those officers to handle that kind of thing and really think Bacopa was another example of one that would have met that at qualifications Lou here but for us it was really communicating the message. We knew once we started getting close to the event and seeing the storm continued intensify. We knew that we were going to have a win. Event on her hands and then we started looking at timing and what concerns us the most and we conveyed this the merge managers manager's by phone call. We call each emergency manager in the hurricane. Warning on the phone and talk to them individually to let them know that the storm was going to be hitting our area moving into our area in in the middle of the night and so what they needed to convey to residents worse. That obviously weren't going to be able to respond to calls. They come coming into the night. If trees coming down on people's homes and that may be something they have to deal with Throughout the night and then figure out when they're going to be able to respond to any calls that do come in assuming power still up Do should trees fall on houses so those are the kinds of things conversations that were going on behind the scenes with merged manager. Just just a prep them for that kind of scenario. I think I'm glad Keith Minton this because I don't think people realize how much someone in a key position has to interact with not just to be urologist and his office Chris but with emergency managers and what not I know for example. One thing that your office does here every year there's something all the integrated warning team at the WTO and Dan so that I mean talk a little bit about sort of the you have in. Ws Chat. Then you have. The women are things that you send out daily talk about some of these non meteorological dissemination strategies that you use share any and everything I if if you think about communication and in what what we do it's really about trust it's about establishing trust so that when we have something that's really important where we believe is important that that our partners trust in delivering that information to them and so we set up a lot of meetings outside of the the the weather weather events to begin to establish the trust. Explain where we're coming from so that when we do contact them there is a level of trust in that. They will trust us because they're having to make nick decisions based on the faith of the forecast and their trust in us in looking at the forecast and conveying that information to them so a lot of these meetings are enabling Austin get together build relationships to establish that trust so that when we're in the heat of the battle we have that open line of communications and trustworthy each other and we are back on the weather geeks podcast. I'm Dr Marshall Shepherd from the University of Georgia speaking speaking with keystone and from the National Weather Service Atlanta. When I have a little fun with this next segment? Because I know as meteorologist we deal with sort of perceptions about whether whether we're rider Ryder wrong percent chance of rain when you issue a percent. Chance of rain forecasts key service office. Can you explain to people philosophically what that means. Thirty percent percent chance of rain. So I mean it's it's there's a one in three chance that you're going to see precipitation right. It's not zero right right because not zero low twenty third in that think they perceived that it's not GonNa rain still one in one in five or one in ten right. It's the same philosophy. He really is the whole hundred year. Flood it's a percentage right. Exactly it's not. It's just another every hundred years. It's just it's a probability. Yes it's a chance chance. Yes so we ran five computer models and there's a twenty percent chance of rain one of them said it was going to rain four of them to set. It was not right. What about this idea about the aerial coverage? Because I've seen this idea of confidence times eerie. How does that play? Well I mean the bigger the area the greater the chance chance. It's GonNa rain across the area right. So it's it's For the chance for the folks that here twenty percent. That's twenty percent for you in your small little area you make up basically It's not twenty across the whole area. We do our forecast on a grid. So it's a four kilometer grid right right and so th that brings brings to bear another question. That's a great each office. Has this area that you're responsible for in your area I believe is mostly north Georgia and into central injure for exactly as well how many counties is ninety six ninety and that has to be larger than average Switzerland. I thought so by the way for those listening. We're taping here in Georgia. which Georgia already has I believe? One hundred and fifty nine counties. I don't want that grew up here. We had to learn them and so I would imagine that his offers. It's not surprising for me to hear that it's the largest responsibility area and that create specific challenges all. Yeah yeah definitely creates a lot of challenges. There are ninety-six emergency managers. We have to know them all and you know there's fourteen counties in the Metro Atlanta alone. So there's I mean the Metro Atlanta is his his a significant workload for us just by itself. We've got the mountain counties but are up in the north. You've got the coastal plain counties on the south the climate varies various drastically across that so and so does also and this is another point. I heard it night. WTO One time don't are there. Different criteria for so the mountain areas areas versus as we get down here for certain things like winter advisories and things like that so we we are a little looser with the criteria in the north in the mountains because especially the peaks above about two thousand feet We tend to get a lot more snow in those counties in so we may not issue is often for them or will raise the criteria to three inches instead of two inches for the mountains. And that's a point of discussion. I know the the other offices around us do the same thing for the smokies are much higher like six inches of snow for winter storm warning but as far as the county's go yeah it's ninety six counties and we have you know eight million people within the It's I think the ninth ninth largest. CWA In the country and largest in terms of county. So there's obviously a lot of things happening within the county warning area and the problems it creates because because the counties are so small is when we do warnings not to include too many counties in a single warning because that just makes morning too long and so We have that as the challenge. Obviously yeah so it's it's interesting to hear that you think about the sort of false alarm issues and perception issues of the forecast as well. I know in the National Weather Service. There's weather weather ready. Nation and impact base forecasting and those types of things facets and all kinds of things that are ongoing to try to sort of bring being the forecast out of our room sort of more meaningful information to the public. Are you in your office. Engaged in any of that. And what are your thoughts. Oh absolutely it I mean. It's an ongoing effort reaching out to partners partners that we probably haven't even reached out or haven't even communicated with yet we don't even know exist and it through whether any nation it's about discovering those partners those that are impacted by using them to help convey the message to be message amplifiers for us because we realize we can't the twenty folks in my office can't do it all and that's where TV media and and all of these close core partners come into play to help us communicate the message about whether impacts whether safety All the sorts of things that work with weather question for you as what I would considered the lead federal meteorologists here in the state or at least in the northern part of the state is the. Mac what would you tell the average listener about how to consume boom weather information from APPS. Do you have any sort of specific thoughts about the APP based world that. We're in of weather because I constantly have people shoving phone in my family. My APP said this so I you know I always check the source of the weather and where you're at where it's coming from. Every APP is pulling its information from somewhere. Check that source. I just know that it's coming from a reputable source but more importantly double check it if it's if it's specifically going to impact you check another APP or another source of information to see if there's differences if there are differences than obviously. There's maybe less confidence in. That forecast ultimately the APP. There's going to give you a number because we have to give you a number but behind that number are probably a wide variety of other numbers possibilities. Sometimes there altogether. Sometimes they're not and so if there's a specific forecast that's of interest to you or it's going to impact you buy advice would be check other sources to see if it agrees. Now that's really really a piece of interesting advice that Keith just gave you just essentially ask you without you knowing it to do some unsolved forecasting of your own. Because you know we we use ensemble and quite a bit in meteorology now on this tour looking at multiple streams of information sort of see sort of whether range of uncertainty may be a bit of advice. I've never heard I actually really appreciate the key said that because I think that's really good advice and perhaps some that I'll start passing when I get that question now I wanNA shift now to sort of workforce and issue hire hire people and so I know there are a lot of than I am candidly. The good news is I've been seeing some hiring going on in the national service. We were in a period where things were a little dyer and you mentioned earlier and and not just your office. There were some short staffing and things like that. I'm seeing that sort of loosen up some so for the young listeners out there they're interested in the whether service. What are you all looking for for the students? I have to tell you the four that I just hired if I had to compete with them today it'd be goes You know two of the two of the four have masters degrees one has a PhD. I just hired right out of college. One guy's got a college degree and Coast Guard experience and still and still the active and so there when you look at their resumes. It's more than just getting a degree. Its leadership its involvement in various programs in and out of the office. It's maybe church leadership or youth leadership or there's there boy Scout Eagle Scouts. All of these things are part of their resume and they all factor into rising to the top of the list. When you're when you're applying some some of the candidates are coming in are so impressive now? What about things like? I know this is big in our program and I know we have a graduate from our program and it's in your office. Now shout out Nick Morgan out out there but you know we've been emphasizing. When we're training our students yeah the meteorology but also getting exposure? GS modeling those things important. Roya they are absolutely our because in the end you the assumption is everybody's going to have a degree right. So what is it that you also bring to the table that that could be of use in the office and sure enough that you were seeing. Those skill sets sort of play out with creative ways to map data and display things things or show things that well you need when we got to talk to partners etc and so All of those skills are certainly playing themselves out. It was one question kind of the not fit in the sequence but it just dawned on me that I wanted to ask you this earlier because National Weather Service office here in in Peachtree city. There's there's also a river forecast center also somewhere in Atlanta area. I think there's an aviation type activity as well as a part of whether service or no as well. Can you distinguish how how what the difference is in the RFC's and aviation activities and is that typical of all forecasters so that's another another example of makes my job unique. Here is the fact that we have those other components. The River Forecast Center is its own separate office. And it's Co located with us so there's a what what is the head. That is a hydrologist charger. Hi So K.. And he is essentially my counterpart he runs that operation. There's only thirteen of those in the country. Their sole sole responsibility is river modeling. Most of them are civil engineers. They got a few meteorologist on their staff but they are calibrating models running computer models for the rivers. I from the mainstream rivers mostly taken the rainfall that fell plus the rainfall expected and running it through and giving us forecast on the rivers. They're working with also corp engineers nears for dam releases pool level stuff in management of the dams and reservoirs as well and so that's their sole function and they'll communicate Kate with us and we'll talk to them about various river forecasts especially when we start getting in a flood situations and we have hydrologist on our staff right right as far as the Aba Shen goes there are there are twenty one where they call Center Weather Service Unit. They are the aviation arm of the agency. In fact back there are actually funded by the FAA reimburse I didn't realize their salary is paid by the FAA but they're weather service employees. They they actually worked for me. There's a there's was an MSA of the unit he's underneath me as well And then he's gotTA staff a three and they're embedded within the air traffic control center which is over in Hampton Georgia. Here and they're sitting right next to your traffic controllers. And they're helping manage the airspace. With in the airport itself the landings takeoffs the traffic in and out especially when it gets into low ceiling situations or wind shifts there helping communicate our forecast ask to them on specific timing and in Atlanta for example. If you get a wind shift from the South East to the South West they have to flip the runways right right and it takes about an hour and a half for them to do and get all the planes changed sides right. So were communicating those types of things simple wind shift to the folks that are embedded over there and the communication that the air traffic controller so that they can begin to establish a plan to flip CETERA. Better and I wanted to make sure I got that question because again. I don't think people realize the complexity of operation that's the national weather last question for keystone over over the years. You've been at this for a while. Now what sort of technological or human resource or modeling advances have. You have made your job Bob easier with. What do you think are the top couple of things that really have made things better for us? Sure so I mean it back in the old days say the old days. We only had a couple models to look at and we didn't have all the fields to ever to view etc.. There are so many model choices ensembles now and we can run them with with computer with the computer speeds that they can produce these things for example champ. Her model the one that runs every hour. I just looked at her model before I came into the interview today because my daughter Sixteen dollars taking her driving test today and I didn't want arraign at that test with those trying to see what the her model was say. So I mean there are so many of those didn't exist just ten years ago. They were in the works and the planning and but they made the job so much easier by giving us a lot more detailed information. There's becoming so many more of them that we're able to unsolvable them together to come up with ultimately what it's turning out to be a better forecast and that is one of the things that's changing in the whole forecast paradigm. It's there's the ability of the computers to rerun and re initialized in recreate forecast so quickly just like the her and some of the others that it's it's taking us maybe a step back from the creation of the forecast to the managing of Oregon. Oh Wow that's an and I'm here a lot of time was just that the ems mess meeting as you. Were you up in Boston. A lot of talk about artificial intelligence machine learning. Maybe it's sort of in the next phase of that process and I and I know you all have a dual pole radars Adar which I I've radar guy. We're working on radar for earlier part of my career. I know that's been a boon for sort of severe weather assessment winter weather and so forth as well. Well yeah no the. The whole Dole poll aspect that came in and Tony Eleven twenty twelve. In fact we were one of the first offices to see the tedious signature on on the dope. All right. Oh Wow really Steve Nelson was one. He's been doing a lot of research with that. He's in Oklahoma guy cries in fact one one of the big studies he's been working on for years. Is the whole relationship between the tedious tornadoes. Injure and height the height of the debris and its relationship to the actual intensity intensity of the tornado itself and there is a relationship and we're able to use that kind of information now in the warning trying to warnings itself and so another advancement in technology allergy. That's leading to better information. Yeah and I think the sort of as we get ready to draw close here. It's been a great conversation exactly the kind of information that I hope hope that we'd be able to conveyed our listeners Keith. Working People follow the National Weather Service Atlanta or follow you in social media sure so whether dot gov slash Atlanta Lanta is our website at Atlanta's our twitter and you can find us on facebook as well and we've done some pretty good things on our social media Think we're getting ready to set up facebook live and do some some live stuff and we posted love our briefings on our youtube channel. Maybe Youtube channel that all of our briefings that we do for our partners within thirty minutes are posted there. So if you WANNA see what we're conveying our partners there will be on our youtube. John now is that something that all weather service offices are doing or is it something unique to Atlanta. All of them have the ability to do it. I don't know that they're all doing it. Right right or shutouts you guys for doing it though I get a lot of those Briefings through my my email but I. I didn't realize that it's actually available to you on Youtube. F Eric Address. Well before I get out of here know what time it is whether geeks listeners. It's time for the Geek of the week. We like to highlight his scientists superstar. Great geologist or weather weedy at the end of every podcast episodes geek of the week is Jordan. Girth Jordan is a leveraged observation lead for the National Weather Service which means that the data that comes into the weather service via resonates aircraft ships satellites. Etcetera is his curated and organized by Jordan and his team hailing from the mid west. He has also been taking twice daily thermometer reading since grade school. He sounds like someone like me. If you or someone you know deserving candidate for next week of the weed please check out our social pages on twitter and facebook. I'm Dr Marshall Shepherd from the University of Georgia June this

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"Hey kevin o'connor on. Today's episode of the mismatch chris vernon and i discussed the latest news about next season start date. We also hit on some players that were watching out for and free agency possible trays as well as to draft prospects that we got our eye on all that next today's episode of the wringer nba shows presented by hulu. Hulu has live sports. Which means you can watch all your favorite sports know great. It's been to have every sport happening at the same time. These last couple months with hulu plus live tv get access to over sixty five live channels in the largest streaming tv library star. Your free trial today. Live tv plan required restrictions apply. Learn more at hulu dot com welcome to the wringer nba. Show chris barney tournaments. He does every tuesday for the rigor dot com. Kevin o'connor kevin obama kevin o. Conflict kevin o. Camera kevin concert kevin o. Climber given oh candy land given candidate. Oh what's going on good luck. Take good luck today. You're on a lot of ballots. Three or four different ballots across the united states. Now the legal marijuana party in minnesota. I'm a republican in massachusetts. I feel like someone else. Tweeted meet today with one. I hadn't seen before i'm not sure if the state but i was running somewhere else as well so who knows who knows. Maybe maybe maybe if people like you enough then. Those other guys will benefit from that. They'll be like hey. I know a guy that kevin o'connor i didn't know there were so many kevin o'connors politics it's wild from all all across different parties to cross. Well i am. Hopefully this will give people a brief respite from all the stress that is going on throughout our country As it is election day and we are just going to talk some basketball so hopefully everybody could get a little bit of an escape. The biggest news kept by a wide margin is that we don't know when our next season is going to start in the nba. And it appears as if this needs to be done by friday. And i read the article by agent ascii and zach lowe some of it a very very interesting To the big things that stood out to me. Were obviously what we thought. Which was the players not crazy about it. Starting then there By december twenty second with that there is the financial reality that not starting at that time could cost a fortune. You have ability to try to make some extra money through partnerships with gaming through partnerships with casinos etc. But they are talking about a billion dollars in losses by not starting in december. Now we don't know if that is true or not and so i am left thinking if this is the financial reality of all of it then you just figure it out and you start playing at the end of december even if your players association at the beginning says hey. We don't really want to do that. Like it is what it is On the other hand is there a happy medium that they can come to. Is this a either. They're starting on december twenty second or they're starting on martin luther king day. Is there something between there and amount of games between their right. I i read that. And i go. What about if they played sixty two and they're giving up twenty five percent of their salary in escrow rather than because it feels like they're either giving up ten percent escrow or fight forty percent in escrow. What if is there a medium and games start time money that can be met or is this a either or i mean it's certainly it certainly a public negotiation that we're seeing here and from some of the conversations i've had with people who worked for teams they mostly tend to side on. We should start in december. Because you know you're going to lose a lot if you push it past christmas and you don't get those christmas days in from the from the broad craft from the broadcasting rights money that you would receive and for the players union. You know i mean. I think it's understandable. Why players want more time off. I'd love to have more time off. But also what's best for the league and is to start in december two despite the short start because it's not just the start. Time december twenty second or mlk day weekend. It's the fact that if you do start late. You're pushing the finals into the olympics. And that could be disastrous from a ratings perspective from an interest perspective from an engagement perspective. Whatever metric you wanna use once the olympic star and not just here in the united states but around the world to and obviously the nba has a large global footprint that is significant to them and waiting for the olympics would have significant risk ano- by the way there are players also would like to be finished by the olympics because i want to play a meal olympics. We'll so when they say like a game or seventy two game season and then the other option is. They don't wanna do that. They don't want to push it all the way through so then. They floated games. That you started dead that it'd be fifty. What i'm saying is can we do sixty had somewhere in between that what we're trying to less off sorta like sixty six game lockout shortened season. We had back. I'm tony eleven right. Is this an either or is this. Now it's a negotiation if there's one proposal here's another proposal. Then they find somewhere to we have. There haven't been any middle. It's either like you play seventy games and you start. Starting december you play fifty games starting january about split the difference here. Is that what we're trying to get to. I don't know yeah. I mean well as zack in reported than their article. They're also trying to find other guidelines for sports betting alcohol casinos to generate more money for teams. Feel like these are. The types of things are trying to do around the margins to try to earn more and get back what's gonna be lost anyway but ultimately the nba's goal from the nba perspective is simply get back on track for october. Start in twenty twenty one and get back on the normal track and the way to do that is by starting in december. Originally the idea was starting in march or february because higher likelihood of getting fans in arenas but i do think you know the the lower ratings competing against the nfl. The mlb playoffs. Everything else did really minimize. The the interest around league including from people that previously did have interest senate to do that and for the players union. I do wonder if they will come around to just got to start in december getting get the christmas days in. It's bad for the health of the league term. But we'll see man. This is certainly public negotiation. And if they do are willing to take a hit in january maybe next season could start in november instead slowly. Move back to an october track Rather than happening immediately and twenty one. That gambling thing is interesting because as you know. I'm in memphis and on sunday. You've got a partnership now right with sports. Gambling became legal in tennessee and immediately the memphis. Grizzlies announced a partnership with fan. Do they are going to be a presenting sponsor of the broadcasts. There's like a promo code. You can enter you know in order to sign up and so you see these. You see these franchises even on a local level obviously going all in and getting very involved with sports books in the in the places where it is becoming legal and clearly over time this is going to become extremely widespread but i was fascinated to read data about the league is a whole and the amount of money and the partnerships that they can garner from that one basketball thing over regarding these negotiations. It stood out to me. The most. Which i'm gonna tell you. I don't think that we have talked about this before. I had not heard this before. But it was in adrian and anzac article and i love it and that is how they do the playing. Now we talked about this last year this year ago. This is the one that was pitched. originally it was. Yeah this is the one. Wait where the where the seven eight play. Yeah yeah this is. The one that was from a year ago. I thought that was seven. Ten play there is different variations. Like one with seven and ten one would seven eight. There's there's whole whole. I liked this seven and eight play but then an eight and then nine and ten play and land seven and eight. Yeah yeah loser of seven and eight has to lose again. I like that. I think that's a good variation i mean. Obviously this this last real quick basically like the seven and eight would face each other play on seven and eight would face each other the seven if they win therein than the loser. Eight would face the nine or ten. Like i said. There's a whole bunch of different variations of this that they could toss around and make work but the counter argument is. Are you penalizing the seventy too much. You know dallas would've been a seventy this year when they have games ahead of other teams. Should they be penalized play in the tournament to me. You know you gotta lose twice though. There's yeah there's got to lose twice but there's two ways to look at this you could all you could do the thing they did this year. Where the the nine seed has to be or the tennessee has to be within a certain amount of games in order for there to be a plan game or you could look at it like this if that seven seed as a fight for their life to get the succeed in the sixty to fight for their life to avoid the seventeen and getting out of the plan tournament that is one of those factors that makes the end of the season. more important. i love this. I love and to me. That's where the greatest interest is or. That's six seven fighting over that and that makes the end of the season matter. Where teams aren't you know trying to get playoff positioning in out. Tanking games to get the seven scenes of the two seed to me. It's more exciting this way. And i'm a big fan of the plan tournament in fact they should. I'm glad they're trying to install it permanently. It's great and ken. This look you get you know. I come by this honest because the play tournament did not work out for the grizzlies. It just didn't work out. And yet i still loved it. It's totally fair. If you lose twice you don't have anybody to blame but yourself that's it. That's the truth if you lose twice like if you blow it then so be it. I don't care about Get the seven seat if they lose to the ten seed and then they turn around and lose to the ninety two like who's feeling sorry for them. You can't feel sorry for them. Like oh you have to do is win to prove that you deserve this spot and you know you get to the end of the season. Sometimes these teams can get injured. I know that sox but you might have been really really good. But then your best player went down. And so now you're the seven or eight seed. It will eliminate somebody getting bombed out in the first round. If they're really not good anymore right. I mean there are teams that that happens to where they get a rash of injuries but they had they had piled up so many wins that they're still holding onto the anc but everybody knows they got no. They would not be a playoff team as they're currently constructed and so it kinda. It helps that too right The with the with the teams that could be banged up or not the version of themselves that would have been in the playoffs. You know if we played it out from that point. So i like that i do. I really back then and to me like that. That is something that drives excitement and drives interest for teams. That might otherwise be out of it. It keeps more fans engaged from an entertainment standpoint. Whether someone feels like the seventeen might be getting screwed or not. I think overall overall it's a positive for the league as a whole. Here's hoping that we get news by friday. Here's hoping the collective agreement doesn't get blown up. It seems like everybody's positive that they can come to some kind of agreement. I mean i do think the players the players have the wisdom to know. Look you're you're in a you're in a business where it's a fifty fifty revenue split the to the matters the revenues not there. It's not there so we gotta figure this out right like i mean. They've got they have a really good deal when it comes to the partnership that they have with the nba. And i think that's why unlike other leagues there has been much less fighting and labor strife. you know And you don't see it you don't see it coming out in the public. Nearly the other thing is it. Seems like michelle roberts and adam silver. Have a good relationship. And they're both cool-headed individuals that aren't out in the media prodding and poking each other to make each other look bad which then gets egos involved in everybody gets pissed off at each other and then he got a big problem her hands. Yeah i mean this week is obviously huge win for the nba. There against the clock here and getting this done to have a december star and bottom line for me. My basic thought here is. I'm not quite sure that that month is worth the potential loss for the players. And whether you're a middle class player or your max player whatever level player you are in the league To me it feels like maybe the short start which isn't really a short off season for most teams majority of teams have been off for quite some time. Nearly half of the league hasn't played since march many others including your grizz since mid august. That's a lot of time off for majority of the league to me. There's lot to lose by pushing to the january star based on everything that we know and basically based on everything we understand now seems like the december twenty second starters for the best for the long term health financially the league so as we do away season as we're in the offseason last week we chronicled three different players a returning player or a player. That's under contract a free agent this offseason and a draft pick and then we discussed three of those that we each picked. We will do that once again after these words today's episode of the runner. Nba show is presented by hulu. Hulu has live sports. You can watch all your favorite sports can guess what next nba season could be right around the corner for december or january. Start time. Actually what's going to end up happening. With who plus live tv you get over sixty five live channels plus the largest streaming tv library including originals and the hottest shows and movies. You can start your free trial of clue plus live tv today so you don't miss a moment. Live tv plan. Required restrictions apply. Learn more at hulu dot com. I kevin where you want to start with you. Start with the free agent. Let's start with the free agent star with the free. And you take. I cur side a free agent. That intrigues me. And i went with a big name this week. Because i don't know if anyone had their perception of who they are as a player change as much during the time in the bubble as the guy that will be the reigning sixth man of the year the nba mantras zero. Like i feel like whatever his stock was when this season broke and then obviously people thought highly enough of him that they voted him the sixth man of the year of the mba. He averaged almost nineteen points. A game he was. I believe forty second in the nba scoring. He ever seven rebounds a game. He was thirty second in the nba and rebounding and this is a guy. That's coming off the bench Face up game got a lot better. A lot of great articles written about him and and this is a guy that got his usage rate. Went up despite the fact that they added kawai leonard and paul george and he was admittedly awesome all throughout the season and then he was a shell of himself in that bubble he ended up. Averaging ten points. Three rebounds ee is just nothing likey was during the regular season but that is the lasting memory. You know he. He went The tragic passing of his grandmother. He left the bubble. He came back he he never had athleticism. He never had that hustle in that energy that he brought to the table. Like all all that was mantra zero. And how great he was and how much i thought he was going to be. Such a highly sought after free agent that off seemingly operated during the bubble. And so now i don't know i really don't know where he lands on the scale of. What kind of money are you investing in him. you know. How much does he moved the needle. I i will tell you. The mantras that play during the season moves the needle in a massive way. The much of the plate in the bubble doesn't move the needle at all. And so what do i make of this. Has he become a mid level player around with my god knows what he's become. He was sick man of the year. I know i know. I know i mean look i would say. The absolute lowest is fifteen to twenty. Well look at the teams that have more than the mid level available atlanta new york. The troy miami charlotte phoenix which of those teams is giving him more than the nine point. Three million knicks. Maybe or maybe not seems like a dibitetto guy maybe the pistons if they were to lose a christian would they attempt to replace him if they would sign elsewhere. I don't think the heat would. I don't think the hornets would especially because we know they have interest in james. Wiseman i reported today. They have interest in the usc center. If they stay at number three. And i don't think phoenix either. I don't love the fit with harrell next to deondraye eight and you don't know i don't 'cause 'cause i i'd rather have a big who can space to floor like a christian would but ultimately atlanta i mean they just traded for cappella they have you know john collins. They have other big on their team. Knicks i mean. I'm not sure what the market is. And that's why. I think there's a i think there's a good chance of mattress could be signed in trade and then that bose also that's always the the path we go here where it's a team that doesn't have cap space. Assigns and trade for him. Yeah and and then. That actually helps the clippers out the clippers. Don't let him just walk for nothing. Actually they do this. Sign a trade. So they actually bolster their team and so that's why he becomes so intriguing. I think he becomes a huge piece in this free agency beyond just the team that goes on signs him how much he enable the clippers to get better or do the clippers. Run it back with him like he's a he's a good player he shouldn't over-react stretch really good. He's really good. But the guy that i have on my list intriguing to me is a free. Agent is joe harris. The nets guard. Joe harris shot over forty percent from three in his career. Is one of the league's better shooters off of screens off of handoffs. A smart qatar reliable defender to me. I look at those teams of cap space atlanta. I'd love him next to trae young. The knicks i'd love to have him as a building block on the team is another young piece the pistons again and other young player that would fit into them. The he'd probably don't need them and they're probably saving cap space anyway. Charlotte i like the fit phoenix. I like the fit a lot of teams that have money. I'd have interest in spending on joe harris to bring in and help be a real glue guy on the team is a shooter and as a reliable defender decision. He's just one of those guys that can fit next star players and that's why for the nets important they keep them his katie and carry could really use the guy like joe harris space on the floor oncoming offscreen. What was that number. That i gave out last week about gallon ori. He actually fit in that. Let me see like a find it. It was harris's in that group. One of four guys that shot forty percent on over three hundred attempts from three thriller. Good man in the last couple of years and so that speaks to how rare it is for a guy to shoot that volume from that range and be able to make that boy from that range. You're right and he and he's not like a total one trick pony right. This isn't like no. He's not just a spot up shooter he. He could come out screens he and caught. You can use them on hand off. Actions solid defender. I mean we saw the value in some of these shooting players. You know whether. It's a duncan robinson tyler herro. We saw miami or other throw the league in terms of what they can do when they're given space and when they're giving opportunity playing off of stars while and tim burton's and gallo and they're all free agents some good shooters you do need somebody that could bank threes. That's these three guys. I mean they're all available and there's another one and that is my player under contract. That intrigues me. Greatly this offseason. And that is buddy healed buddy buddy. All year he was pissed off when he signed his contract and then got more pissed off as the season went on. He went from not playing crunch. Time to then coming off the bench now in fairness to luke walton. Their record was better with him. Coming off the bench But he was a sour puss the whole year and then that that didn't go away in the bubble. Now he's averaged over the last four seasons twenty points a game five rebounds two point seven assists. He shot forty one percent from three. He is going to start the first year of a four year. Eighty six million dollar contract and it could be up to one hundred million with incentives. Some of those incentives are totally reachable. Like three point incentives others which are like they to the western finals. They get to the nba finals. Those are probably not incentives that he's going to hit. I think it's fair to say that being said very sought after amongst nba teams. Now they have totally new management there so that old regime that he was pissed off about. I know he's still you know it was a Subotica with coach but body develops out there anymore. Right now. they've got a new guy. And you got a big decision to make because you're about to have to pay a fortune for bogdonovich if you want to bring him back and you're not going to be. You're not gonna pay a fortune for donna. Vich and a fortune for buddy. He'll something's gotta give here. The other thing is about two weeks ago. There is one of these reports that came out sixers interested in trading for buddy healed and i saw where he was like liking instagram posts about him. You know like it's just something that's gotta give here. You mean like end. If i'm them i bring back bogdanovich right. I get rid of the guy that's been a malcontent. But him go get a fresh start somewhere else and just white by hands of it and let somebody else you know deal with it and i do bring back bogdonovich. What do you think. But he'll feels like one of those guys and if he goes to a contender could pop. Oh for sir. When you put him into and has his ideal role as a guy playing off of stars. I mean to me. That's like a card that you would go out and try to get now i have. I have coveted him in memphis Healed correct chris but he only healed. Psa degrades the crazy thing is. I went back at buddy yields. They got his wrong birthday on them. Saw those are even more rare. He's he's don't even say he's right birthday all seriously buddy though like he. It seems like he took a little bit of a step back. This past season obviously not a great situation for him and he wasn't happy but overall though so one of the best shooters and basketball 'em next the stars he could be unleashed wellin- dj to say. Hey man let's work this out and payback donovan and then you figure it out after the season starts it just so you've got both assets to me like that's what i prefer to do but it depends on what else is out there. What are opportunities are there. What can i get from a team that has interested in trading for him. And we don't know all that But i i certainly would have interested buddy hield if if i'm an nba because you're close to the fox contract getting close on that right kick. That will start twenty one twenty two right right around the corner. So you're really close on the fox guide track so now what do you mean and does that help or hurt that 'cause you know because you don't want disgruntled guy you don't want people thinking. Geez man i'm wasting four or five years of my career doing this right. You want to start building around. I know fox feels about the whole thing and by the way that probably plays until. You're thinking you're talking to us at fox it'd be like hey you know. What do you feel about buddy. What's your relationship like with. Buddy what do you think. What was he like in the locker room last year. How how was he with his teammates. Says he seemed revenue win or is he focused on himself. And that's where you get the feedback from your your star your best young player the guy you want to build around and that can help inform the decision that you make you know from us you know sitting here not being in that locker room and all that it's hard to tell but that plays into it that plays into it. I'd say this man. I have always had a soft spot because i i loved him in college. I love to watch for emma and he got better. Every year journey. I saw him play personalize air. And then just two years ago Sacramento came in played a game. And i happened to be over in the arena. They had can't like they had flown in the night before they had cancelled their shootarounds. In everything for a game day but healed was out on the court at fedex forum at like ten in the morning. He's himself for two hours. He's a worker. And i'm like yo give me this guy. This guy could by himself. No i'm not nobody rebounding for him. No no other players on the team. It's like they had cancelled shoot around. It didn't matter he was out there sweating his ass off for two hours. Just trying to get better. And that's what he wasn't oklahoma. Yeah works he got better. Improved as weaknesses improved. Shooting improved his ball handling and proved his body. And that's happened in the nba. Two after a slow. Start with new orleans you know. Look the pelicans up. Sorry the kings did hire alvin gentry to be an assistant there. And he had entry in new orleans as a young player. Maybe that could help things. Maybe a conversation between gentry inhaled the nature of their relationship. But maybe something like that can help. Because if you're the kings and lesser getting something back that you know is good trading. He'll come back to bite you down the line because like i said a guy like him somebody who personality like he is so hungry for ws. That guy wants to win. He's a winner. If he goes to a situation in which he's winning and competing at a high level and maybe going you know with championship aspirations. You're going to see him rise and you're going to see him be a guy that it'll you. People look around the league at him and view as it is an impactful player like he was for the sooners in call. Do you take somebody comes out. It's restricted free agency. Do you think somebody comes out and just throws a massive bag bogdonovich. I mean i sort of feel the same way about bogdonovich. I think he can get super dicey right. Because heald's got up like i mentioned atlanta for joe harris how about atlanta for bogdanovich. Another fit that works but it's a four year eighty eight or four year. Eighty six for buddy healed do katie bar the door if you if you have to match offer for more than that for bogdonovich i mean you'd figure he probably gets four and seventy right. I mean that's seventeen and a half a year figure probably gets at least that or which is another guy analysts everything i said about buddy and think can he said about bogdanovich because he's another guy that ever since he's been playing over says sees has been draining game winners that dude as a game. You're he plays hard and he's a little bit of a better passer than buddy to you can do a little bit more off the dribble as a creating for others. Not he's not but the thing is he's not an elite shooter. Like buddy. buddy is a is top level shooter. Bogdonovich is a very very good shooter. So that's the difference between those crazy as they can both be starting shooting guard on awesome teams. Yeah and somehow they're on a crappy you figured out you'll save like either either of those guys could be the starting you'd feel great about them. Being your starting shooting guard and your team can be really really good. You know like they could be starting shooting guard contenders. And it's like okay. They got both of these guys and they obviously can't start a both all right. Who's your returning player. That intrigues you. How about drew holiday. Pelicans guard one of the best defensive guards in the league. Very very good on the offensive end of the floor. They're in an interesting situation there. One of the many teams looking to trade up from the late lottery. I can't imagine that they would want a package holiday with your pick. Move up but you know maybe you'd be open to trading him for something out there maybe not in the draft by maybe another player. Somebody who fits your timeline with holiday. Maybe you do wanna find somebody a bit younger. That fits the trajectory than the timeline. You have around zion williamson. And i think there's a number of teams that could use a jrue holiday it could it could bidding more start between teams like milwaukee in philly and so on you know teams need to guard and that could use a guy a veteran that can come in right away. I wonder if the pelicans stir something like that up doesn't feel a little bit different though because of them hiring stand van because you know how much onus he puts on defense and how much he would value a guy like drew holiday unlike. Say you know if they brought in mike. D'antoni might tony has done one to whoever has the ball in their hands ends up having their biggest offensive season when they play for d'antoni right but the guy that plays point guard for stamping gundy. He's gonna want somebody that the grinder a look when he won big. He won't big. What jamir nelson right. Who's like this little fireplug kinda guy. That's really gonna compete. All the time. I drew holiday is. He's better than jamir nelson but he is a a competitor. Hard nose guy. He just feels like the kind of guy that stay in vain would love so i don't know if they'd be willing to come off of him as easily just because they hired gun you know. I think. I think you're right there. Because the pelicans do have playoff aspirations here but you know you do still have to take the long view and i wonder you know vincent goodwill reported a couple of weeks back for yahoo sports that he's hearing that you know eight nine. Ten teams have inquired with the pelicans for holiday in the nuggets. Were one of the teams. That are really high on him i. It's been reported past that they've made attempts to get a holiday from the pelicans as well. So whether it's you know denver philly or whether it's milwaukee there's a lot of teams that could use somebody like holiday. I just wonder if a team that's younger. Like the pelicans and holiday being thirty and has a big deal. I do and airbus have to pay anger for that matter to do kind of wonder if there's a bidding war that could put it this way. Holiday could be the best player that gets traded if he were to get traded has. There's not a lot out there. And if he's the best guy that's potentially even available you could create kind of an auction for him. I think you know now that you talk about. I do think you're right about the whole more of the long view. Yes they want to compete. Yes they want to be able to get into the playoffs by winning title next year. So and that's why this season rush zion back onto the court this year. 'cause they're like what good is the eighth seed. What good is it for. Holiday holiday has much greater value to a team that is trying to win next year. I'm talking about like win a title next year denver right. You've put him next to jamal. Murray and you know you you go into the you go into the game with holiday. Murray and yokich. That's nice album sudden. You got some. You're walking into something with a chance to win a title right whereas the pelicans appel by the way yeah with holiday this year. You're going to need a really good offensive guard for that matchup against steph. And yeah you're going to need that guy against you know in the east if he were to go to philly or where to go to a milwaukee against kyri irving in the nets. You're going to need a guy like that and he's a really really good player. I mean it's amazing. He's been named an all-star only once all defensive team only twice but this is a guy everybody around. The league knows is a high level player. Oh yeah that on a winning team championship contending team again. Another one of those guys. Where i think you'd see the true impact. That player can make in that type of environment. Unbelievable character guy to. Oh yeah great everybody. Everybody loves it. But you're right. He does not. He's not on the zion ingram timeline. They haven't they haven't taken any playoff lumps yet. They haven't even played in the series much less. You know i mean and by the time they do and take those lumps. you're old. you're outta holidays. Prime mean he needs to be somebody that can win right now holiday just to lay out his contract this coming season. He's guaranteed for twenty six million the following year. He is a player. Option for twenty seven million. That's a year that i could see him. Depending on what the catholics like either opting in or opting out for a larger payday because he'll be thirty one years old might be the last year to get a big four year. Max contract so he could opt out after one more year. So for the pelicans what he want to stay. There ought rather go to a team. That has those championship aspirations immediately. Who knows but for the pelicans. I do think it is worth investigating and really deeply exploring the trade possibilities out there for a guy like that when he could leave after this. Come up because that's that's not a bad deal not at all it'll be that's manageable for so many teams hail when you're talking about some of these guys making forty two million if i'm paying him i get him and another fifteen million dollar player for my forty two million mean like that doesn't that's not punitive you mean in by the way for that receiving team to let's say i mean he's had some injuries in the past. Let's say he falls off a cliff. It's not like you have them at a four year deal. It takes him until he's thirty four if you're if you're that contending team taking on the player to me the shorter deal gives him more value because then you'd have a choice in a couple years or in a year to either keep him long term or to say so long. We want a championship with you. Or made iran gonna move onto another option out there to me. That's another factor that works really in favor of both the pelicans and in favor of the potential receiving team. But i'm i'm fascinated to see holiday still because i'd be thinking really hard about it. If i'm david griffin. I like that one all right last. One the draft pick. I think you're gonna like this fire. Fire away. I went with a i went with one. That is high on these draft boards and on the ringer's draft guide he in the mock draft. He currently sits at number seven. He says number seven and this is it. This is my mock drafts. Yes so my mark drafts was updated today and who players go on. Centauri's albert yes tarries albarn. Okay so the reason that this is my guy this week. That superintendents meet Everybody was abusive in their praise. About halliburton When we talked on friday with kyle. Man and jonathan sharks and and we all had this discussion about the upcoming draft Shades of on the nba draft guide nba draft out ringer the wringer dot com are shakeel alexander. Samkah sell okay. So that is those are great. Like i love that right off the bat but the reason that halliburton intrigued me so much is because of going through an entire season being around and covering john mirant. Now matale this together. The reason is because so that staff the jamaran staff from murray state. They left murray state and they went to iowa state. The same guys the same guys right. Once upon a time they found. John moran john mirant played two years at murray state. He flew up the board. Nobody was talking about john moran and then everybody was talking about job maria by the time he was a sophomore at college right. Nobody talked about him his freshman year haliburton not much different. It's like wait. Who and next thing you know. He's like a top ten draft. Pick okay so. I reached out to them to the iowa state staff who i become friendly with through the year because obviously they care so deeply about mirant success and this is what the guy that recruited mirant is a guy named james kane okay. This what he said to me. He said i love him. He's got a body. Like reggie miller is a wizard and ball screens. He can play multiple positions on and off the ball high energy guy in the locker room and the court low maintenance total winter is an absolute joy to coach and he said that thing about these under recruited guys definitely have a chip on their shoulder and they aren't afraid to put in the work they also know how to handle adversity a lot better when things don't go their way and i will tell you he would shoot straight with me on this kid he would and if he would have responded something different i would not You know what i mean. I wouldn't kill the kid on a national podcast. I would you know what i mean. I would have just said my piece about Talk to people. And i don't really know totally sold but you can't get a sales job than that and i'm telling you these guys had moran. They know what a player is new meaning. They know when they got something special. And you take that thing one by one everything that guy said to me about halliburton. I loved everything. That's who he is who he is in the draft guide. I call him a coach's dream that's what he is as a player on the court with the actions you see with hustle plays smart passes unselfish decisions and also what you'll hear from people that have been around him as a coach name or scouted him or worked with hammer trained with him that he is one of the highest character guys in the draft and some of the you can bet on to maximize whatever he's gonna be whether that's star player or very very good player or whatever. He's going to maximize his potential because he works and to me in this year's draft class that sort of touches on the the question teams are asking. Do we want to try to you. Know swing for the fences and take our big risk or do you wanna go with a guy that you feel like. Maybe you're just hit in a single. Maybe it's a double maybe somehow around the bases and get get a triple but you know. That's the dilemma here. Driving upside or drafting for certainty. And there's a lot of certainty with halliburton. any still retains some upside. If that handled can develop any can become a shooter off the dribble because he's already good at everything passing shot creation for playmaking shooting off the catch but shooting off. The dribble is really what would make him. Not just good but possibly great. I love that point about the under recruited guys. 'cause obviously these guys have become expert at it right the when you find the guy that was not supposed to be a top ten draft pick. It ends up there and this idea that the guys with the chip on their shoulder aren't afraid to put in the work and that they also. I think it is a extremely important point that they know how to handle adversity. When everything's gone your way and you've always been highly recruited and you've always been the best guy what happens when it's not going your way and that these guys are especially equipped to deal with that right then if it doesn't pop right off the bat they're not sitting there pointing fingers and say coached this by code right like they they they been humbled. They have no reason to walk around thinking. They're better than everybody else that they're not getting a fair shake because they've already been in the spot where they didn't get the fair shake right. They they were in the same jim as all all the players and coaches watch them all and like the other guys better than them so now. They've got to prove themselves. I love guys like that too in. Jesus please i mean like like it's obviously and let me just say this. The there are a lot of guys who we go through the draft. Do the years. I ended up contacting a lot of people that i've met throughout the years. That are now coaches at different places or coached against or coach. Guys and i will tell you that they it's not always be are. It's just not pieces and honest. Dave really are more often. People are honest. You find them to be honest about these guys because truth be told in the end. You're going to see them again and they don't want they. Yeah you told me that this kid was going to be so it so it doesn't do them any good to try to pump up some kid That's not gonna that gonna make them look smart inside the as you can also read between the lines. People say i mean if they're not saying wow this guy gets in the gym right away. Just saying i mean. He worked offices without much enthusiasm right. I mean we're people we're all human and you can sort of sense a lot of time when someone's trying to be a salesman and sometimes when they're just being genuine analysis tell you something really funny a real quick before i get to years please. I like funny stuff. Your mock draft your mock draft as we talked about god updated Number eight killian hayes. And here's the The side sidebar on him. Hayes is my top ranked prospect. It could be to steal for the knicks. He brings dynamic shot creation skills and a defense personality. New york needs everything. Hayes could bring it all now. There was once a french point guard that was taken number eight five the new york knicks. The kevin o'connor loved i mean. I'm not drawing comparisons. Don't just saying what the time here. What's a french card taken with the eight in the draft but the new york knicks. And now you are advocating once again. Let's go back to the well. Let's just keep taking them. Do we end up with tony. Parker one one. That's still. I like frankie smokes. You're going to take a french guy right over the top of him. Filthy for legal and killian hazmat together could be pretty exciting. That's a great defensive backcourt. I'll tell you that. I can't imagine new york being less excited about anything. Now do hell no mix fans whatever i got as the nixon my mocks or like yeah love. It fans want killian. Hey do they like them a lot. Okay all right kevin. Gimme your draft. Pick that intrigues you. We talked about him. A little bit on friday show with man and sharks but i wanna hit him again real quick on yet. Ko congo usc center charlotte hornets really really like him at the third pick. And i've been told this these things can change but it sounds like that could be the guy with the third pick if lies is not on the board but when it comes to the potential trades on draft night i continue to hear including this morning that minnesota is having a lot of conversations with teams to trade down including charlotte and number three. Because they'd like to move up and get wiseman and in this alcon routes to me is one of those guys where he sort of symbolizes. How wacky the strap could be. This is a guy who could go third. But if he doesn't go third could he fall to nine or ten. He very well could. And he's somebody a lot of teams like because of his potential versatility on the defensive end of the floor. Six nine two hundred forty five pounds. He can defend bigger guys but he also has some quickness to switch screens in the perimeter ban at a bio type of element to him in addition to the fact that he's a great finish around the rim. A good decision maker can handle a little bit for you. There's some potential there for him to be more than just like a rim protector rim running big and a lot of teams like that guy and i wonder the pending what happens with one if that if minnesota trades down. Where does okon do end up. Going to me is one the things to watch for in the draft because i see a number of teams also trying to trade up for him from their position. Either in the middle or the late lottery so conroy to me is somebody that is being talked about as much as some of those top guys wisemen lamelo edwards and understandably so but he is has quite a lot of interest from teams drafting in the middle of the i drown or if he doesn't go three. We'll see what happens. How 'bout all right so him versus at. I know the different positions but oporto from auburn. Which one are you hire on. I mean i had congress ahead of okoro with with okoro Freshman wing from auburn. There's little doubt that okoro is going to be able to come in right away and being impactful defensive player with his body six six two hundred thirty pounds long arms. I mean he's built. You know really top. It looks like eagle dollar with the muscles and all that and he could very well become an dollar type of defender to me. You know the concern with embassy shot twenty nine percent from three shot sixty seven percent from the free throw line and not only were they low percentages but he was often reluctant shooter. Somebody who passed on open shots and said gave it to another teammate. Or drove into the lane sometimes when it was packed. And he's a good player. And i think he's gonna be a really impactful player for you but the shooting ability. I do have questions about that. Can limit his upside whereas with okonkwo. It's a different role in. The shooting isn't necessarily as important though i do. Think call can develop a shot as well. He showed some mid range touch on owners. And you know shots from the elbow area. Okay let me ask you this. And i'm not i'm not saying this to poke holes in it. I'm asking this honestly. Is this kid. Do you feel like he is high. You're and he has risen a little bit and you've talked about. Yeah yeah because there's not bigs. This is so light on bigs that in another year where there were a bunch of pigs like. Do you look at this guy. Let me try to think okay. A couple of years ago did deluca draft. There was a bunch of big right. Wendell carter went wet like seventh something like that. Is this guy a better prospect than carter. That was somebody that you really loved. Some just bringing up a name right now. When carter and a different era might've been i would i liked carter. Moore's prospects interesting so it is. It is partly because of the year that this kid is falling into and that there is a lack of. There's not a lot of six nine that are on this thing. You know what i mean. I mean if you're plopping wiseman or edwards into the two thousand twenty one drafts. i mean. They're not going top three. They might not go five maybe six next year. Twenty twenty one. He's somebody i mean. Some of these. Whoever goes number one might not go top five next year. And it's the type of thing where when it to a congo being the third pick that's can only be said about this year's class But comparing him to other prospects. Cia say i saw like wendell carter a lot. Yeah still quite a lot. But i probably favored cars slightly more than okon woo. Though i will say this. Congress shows more versatility on switches is carter did in college and that's something that it's close. It's close between them some years. We've got a lot of biggs and some years we don't and so like the fact is is it because the you know you're in a year it's kind of like how there were there. Were a bunch of guys that said You know what. I'll wait until next. Nfl draft to come out. I'm receiver right. There's fifty guys that are going to get drafted in the first round. So this year for me and unfortunately if trevor lawrence you can't go back because then if you go back the jets off the number one pick the following year. I hope we get to see him. Play a college game. that'd be great is so fun images opt out though ebay. Just say the hell with this crazy. The patriots could go from having the the best quarterback in their division for two decades to the worst of two in miami josh allen in buffalo and possibly lawrence in new york and the patriots have cam newton passes five and jarrett stidham. Esa sounds to me like somebody's not a believer. I like stood him. I mean. I think he's i think he's i think he deserves some reps to finish out this year of you. Want me to hit you with the nfl. Hot take ready. Lee's i'm ray it'll be okay. Kevin is next year. You'll get jimmy garoppolo back. I don't i don't want jimmy g. Bag yeah you're getting back. They're going to be done. It's over disco. He's gonna move on. The poor niners man takes to bring it back. They've been ravaged by injuries. Man jimmy g. kittle injury terrible injuries and the backfield's i mean i think i think it's right like twenty plus guys out of their fifty three man roster taryn real. That team healthy would be really really good. No i hopefully. Everybody enjoys a basketball talk. And you're able to talk a brief respite from all the stress that everybody is enduring over the course of the next forty eight hours or hopefully forty-eight hours. Hopefully this thing that dragon into sex did with frigging dorji bush and al gore for like december that we found out who the next president was going to be terrible Kevin enjoy your week. The best you can i. We'll talk to you on friday a week. Everybody thanks to producer. Sasha as always and we'll be back on friday.

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Podcast #934: Should You Buy a TCL Series 4 UHDTV?

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Podcast #934: Should You Buy a TCL Series 4 UHDTV?

"Welcome to the HDTV podcast featuring guys are under dairy in Afraid Russell now the HDTV podcast. Hey Welcome to episode nine thirty four. HDTV and home theater podcast. This is February. A seventh of two thousand twenty and as it is the first show of the month are full. Contact Information if you WANNA get a hold of us or find out more about anything that we talk about today a visit. HD GUYS DOT COM. And of course if you'd like to be involved sometimes we read emails back. We don't read all of them but sometimes we read emails. That are interesting not interesting but add to the content of the show. They are interesting but not that we don't read. It doesn't mean that your email is an interesting Trying to dig dig my way out of that hold their fire off an email to h guys at hd guys dot com and we are available on other social media platforms as well Twitter facebook all that stuff available at HD guys dot com. Scroll down to the bottom of the page I think that's it. Oh and if you want to do a voice comment you can record a little diddy of yourself say in something On your phone or tablet or laptop or whatever and just attach it to an email and send it to us. It's a whole lot easier than back in the day when we used to have an actual call in line that we would try to record off of and it sounds a whole lot better. So that's the best way to do it if you want to get your voice on the show so you remember when we had all the various platforms didn't Google have something for awhile. Google plus grueling. Yeah we had that and then Like you said we had the phone number We had facebook facebook page. Actually now the only thing we have left is just our twitter's at Brayden Russell and at at HDTV podcasts. So it's very simple to get a hold of us. We do get some questions asked on twitter. I try to answer them the but the preferred way to ask a question is through Through email but go ahead if you do twitter's away You like getting in touch shows us. We just may not answer it as quickly right. Yeah we used to have a newsletter all the way back in the day which was actually just to show notes bundled up as an email that we fired off to a list of people that subscribed and then that went away and I think it became up an update at Google plus for a little while. That was how we were doing the newsletter until until Google plus went away. But that's going way back in the archives of the show I remember that newsletter. That was Yeah it was just a cut and paste and we we would just send it out just shortly. It was Kinda your way of knowing that the show was posted But I am a little bit under the weather so if you can hear it on my the voice you might hear a few sniffles or cough here and there so I apologize in advance. The other thing I apologize for as I am in Atlanta again and I have been in hangers angers all day I've been here all week. I just have not had enough time to put together a full show but we do have a I think a good show for you. It'll it'll just be a little abbreviated. It's going to be an awesome show and abbreviated or not. The content is going to be a blast. And you're gonNA love it so much that you're gonNA WANNA help keep keep the show alive for many many more episodes to come and as this show is entirely listener supported there a couple ways you can help support one is by signing up to become a patron one of the podcast at Patriotair dot com slash. HDTV podcast and of course You can get to that link to help sign up if you want to contribute at our website he said hd guys dot com and the other way is through our coffee metaphor at our website. You can click on a cup of coffee equates to a different dollar amount and that is done through paypal So we appreciate it and if you do the largest coffee it's a calf pal. You get a shout out on the show a lot of people I choose not to do shot up but we do read your name and the first one is from show van. All men or Allman is how I would pronounce that he says. Thank you for for the podcast while I haven't automated my home yet. This podcast is my sources say current with the evolving home theater technology. I am not an early adopter Dr my plaza plasma. TV has a great picture and doubles as a room heater in the winter when my niece was setting up her apartment after college I recommended the T. PCL based on Britain's fan boy advocacy. He says keep up the great work. All right yeah fan. But we'll have a little bit more about my fan boy advocacy later on in the show L. But The second calf. How we got today was from Charles? Charles simply says just wanted to thank you guys for a great show so Shobana Charles. Thank you very much rush for your help and for everyone who signed up to become a patron of the show. Thank you as well Dan. Charles sent me a picture not for sharing but I won't show the picture but I'll tell you what what is. He built himself his own home. Entertainment system out of some Oak that he bought I. I don't know if you bought it at a big box or another store but it look really cool and I think about it if you can build something like that you can build for a fraction of what it would cost to go buy something and and the Nice thing about building it was perfectly weekly custom to the heights of all equipment and got everything to fit in there nicely so if you have a little bit of woodworking skill or maybe you've got a friend who's a good work woodworker and you could trade something something you do really well for something he does. I am finding in the Woodworking a Lotta trading does go on which is Kinda Cool Brayden Did you watch the Super Bowl this weekend. I did watch the Super Bowl and I did. Watch it in four K.. On the FOX APP at my brother's others house What did you think oh I did? I thought it was phenomenal. The four K.. And there was all kinds of emails and and news stories and everything about how wasn't wasn't true for k What people were saying? It was just a very good digital picture. A ten eighty P picture that was up converted but as we said in the past using the up. Conversion tools of the studios is a lot more sophisticated than what you would get in your. You're on TV. I thought it looked phenomenal. The HDR looked great the The halftime show. I wasn't a fan of the halftime show but the colors and and when you could see it with a black background it on my Ultra short throw. Projector just looked phenomenal. Yeah the halftime show show is kind of a crazy psychedelic. Who knows what? But I don't think it's for the people who are interested in the football game is not what the halftime show is for is funny the people who the house who didn't care about football cared about the halftime show so I thought that was kind of so there's something for everybody right. They make the they make the Super Bowl. Something that you even. If you don't like the Super Bowl you sit around for halftime. Yeah and the the quality was excellent and because it was being streamed. It wasn't perfect for us all the time every once in a while well it would stutter or the picture would kinda pixelated a bit Which I think is just it's either you know your local Internet connection Kinda goes haywire for a second or or just the fact that it's being streamed in your cable network provider? Whatever has a hiccup So that was a bit of a bummer. But I can't say that like HDTV. When I was watching coaching on cable when I used to have cable wouldn't have similar issues from time to time but the quality was every bit as good as I have seen on a standard standard ten eighty P or attorney I guess Over the air or cable broadcast which typically the streamed? High Def stuff isn't as good as your over the air. Hi Def stuff but this because it was in four K.. To me looked every bit as good as what I've seen the super bowl in any of the years passed so it may not have been true four K.. But it's as good as I've ever seen the super bowl. Yeah makes you kind of excited about when they do get four K.. Through four K.. How incredible is GonNa look the only issue we had in my house was it did take multiple attempts attempts to get the stream to load but once it did everything was fine But again I agree with you. It looked phenomenal. The air is one comment the the Red Jerseys I think those were the chiefs were a little over saturated and there were a few comments of people saying the same thing But other than that I really liked to quite a bit. Yeah it was great. What do you think the commercials? You know it's funny. My favorite commercial was that that whole series of the tide. Stick of that guy going through the entire show and And then at the very end he was much older any any look. I got it Out and you know implying it was like thirty years later. I thought that was Kinda cool and I don't know if it was tied but there was one note was proctor Dr and gamble a company. They had commercial where they managed to get all their brands in one commercial. Which I thought was pretty funny? Yeah that was pretty good I I like the bill. Murray GROUNDHOG age my favorite. Yeah of all the commercials are there are a couple of good ones. Most of them were just Kinda Ma- but The the Bill Murray one actually I. I really enjoyed the Tom Brady. One was pretty good too. But just from I guess a little bit of a shock factor William and you get the fact that he's not going anywhere so I guess yes. He's staying with the Patriots but at least not retiring right. Oh you're right I see I interpreted it. I'm not going anywhere meaning I'm not leaving the New England patriots but Yeah you could be. He's just not retiring but yeah yeah because the commercial said something about You know the the best no one is time to like hang it up or or call it quits or whatever and then he said. I'm not going anywhere Which I guess it could be the one he staying with the Patriots or at least the fact that he's not retiring? I heard the chargers are going to make a run at him so I wouldn't mind that at all. Yeah the that's the beers can and get him and ruin another quarterback. That's just kind of what the bears do all right. Let's get to the email we I think we have two of them today. And from from longtime listener Paul Warner out of New Zealand he sent us an email. Hey guys a bit of history has gone the second to last blockbuster Buster video store in the world closed in Dargo Ville New Zealand leaving. Only the one in the world left in Bend Oregon and and Brayden. Don't you think that means you and I need to take a trip to Bend Oregon. We yeah we need you know. A bend is beautiful. It's a great spot is I've been there. Haven't been there in quite a while. No but I wouldn't mind finding myself in Bend Oregon. Yeah it sounds like one of those things. It's like a trip to Mecca last blockbuster. That's hilarious so so you know benders probably saying we just hang in there. I know those New Zealand guys. They're they're gonNA close soon. Yeah it's gotTa be like subsidized by local tourists The local tourism economy is to get the the last vestige of people who wanna go to best buy. I'm sorry a beg your pardon a blockbuster best buy's not gone yet. Yes not yet and the next email is from Anton he says hey guys. I've listened to your latest podcast and number nine thirty three where you read an email from a listener who's not satisfied with the music quality from his. Av Receiver are mentioned. The possibility of adding a separate Stereo amplitude additional speakers basically building a new system mm which requires extra space in more speakers or upgrading to a higher end. Av Receiver and Anton says I'd like to suggest a third option and one that I've been using for about a a year now since the listener is satisfied with the performance of his system in movies. I wouldn't upgrade the AV receiver but instead at an integrated stereo amp with with an hd bypass input the stereo amp should be connected to the PRI PRI out section of the AV receiver nowadays even lower to mid range. Ones have them so that the stereo ample become power aunt in multichannel. When listening to music? I would go directly to the Stereo and this way you could use the speakers for both music and the movies and get a great result for both of them. He says approach has many advantages not caring about the receiver. Stereo performance makes it easier to choose an upgrade great in the future without sacrificing music performance. You can choose where to invest more money based on what's more important to you. Music or movies. He says I believe such a setup is the best for people who want to enjoy high-quality movies and music in the same setup. It makes sense. I mean just kind of a a a selector for your amp versus receiver and use the same speakers assuming that the speakers are the quality that you want for both situations I think he was saying he liked to speaker. So yeah I think this might work out for him. So thanks for that that suggestion Anton and we did actually have one more email. It was for Mitch's actually came in today. Says I've got a question. I've got a hard of hearing friend WHO I. I don't want to exclude from movie nights. But if we turn up to the point if we turn it up to the point she can hear dialogue. Then it's crazy loud for the rest of us If there was an explosion or something I guess it gets really loud. I realized we could turn on subtitles. But do you know of another solution may be an easy way to have a bluetooth headphones. Play the same play the same time as that most system because everything is so smart these days if you connect the headphones to the TV and APP and receiver it mutes the audio and the speaker so that that is an issue and So Mitch here one suggestion. It may be a little expensive but it could to help your friend out just in general. They have these devices that you can get. That are essentially microphones and it will pick up noise and amplifier. Amplify amplify it so that you can hear better in the Paradigm Bluetooth headphones or if your friend has hearing aids or something like that and then you could just have it at regular volume volume and then your friend could make it louder for her to here. So that's just one suggestion and maybe expensive though because I think these types of devices might need in an auditory exam to get but I'm not one hundred percent sure on that So we put this out to our listeners. If you've got a solution for Mitch let us know because has there are ways to get Bluetooth but as Mitch said even if it's smart or not smart it typically is all or nothing either you get only the Bluetooth person listening or you get nobody. Nobody listening I you know what. I wonder if you use headphones. If the headphone Jack I think the headphone Jack Kills you too right. Yeah typically it does. Yeah I mean the way you'd have to do that as some sort of a splitter coming off of the back receiver to where the receiver didn't realize that there there were headphones plugged in. So you'd have that splitter go off to a headphone amplifier or a Bluetooth transmitter. And then also to your speakers if you could find one that just runs off of like a speaker Input then you could send like the center channel to the headphones so that the dialogue is louder for your friend But I think typically you're going to have to do that somehow outside side of the scope of the receiver because if you hook up headphones to the receiver in any way it usually is like you said Mitch. Smart enough to know that while you're not gonNA use headphones and the speaker so it's GonNa turn the speakers off are jumping over to the news. This was an interesting survey out of the University of British Columbia. Consumers evidently are more more worried about family and friends misusing smart technology than they are about hackers doing so. They said they're worried that their housemates could order stuff online over over here private conversations or access other people's reminders calendars and phone contacts according to a professor at the University of British Columbia called. Constantine Bez says nosov. I hope I got that right But I think that probably comes more to if you have roommates because I'm not sure I'm worried about my family getting access to these things as I would be if it was roommates people that I wasn't you know related to flatmates so to speak. Yeah Yeah and so. I'm I'm not worried about it but the only issue could be by accident. My daughter or wife for somebody wants to send a text to one of their friends and It goes through me and So it looks like I'm the one who sent the text now. Siri has just. I'm we're not supposed to do that. We got an email where we're not supposed to Aggravate are talking tubes. Somebody was A little bummed because I think on the last show. I mentioned the The Amazon Lady dimes. Yeah Yeah and and I explained to him. It just seemed it was awkward for me to say a lady or S Lady. But we're we'll have to try harder because we don't want to irritate listeners. So let's Let's try a little bit hard but anyway I think would the The Mike Device which is in a home pot it Noz my voice now. So that's kind of cool so if I say set a reminder it knows it's me and it'll do it and what it will do is if you can't exactly determine if it's me it says who is talking now. If that was the case of my daughter did it and she could lie and say it was me but you know that's typically not going to happen. Yeah all right so go ahead. No I was GONNA say Jim over and talk about this four K.. Fail well let's do that last. Let's let's do our Tony Eleven in review and then we'll talk about the four K.. Fail so we're going to do a twenty K.. Twenty eleven in review will Kinda we did at this Couple of weeks ago and we're going to kind of go a year at a time over the next few weeks and go through the entire decade so one of the things we'll do I are are there predictions and I believe the first four predictions are mind in the last four. Predictions are are Brayden. So here's what I said from twenty eleven. LCD LCD TV's hit six hundred Hertz. Refresh rate in that was just me grasping. I don't think that ever happened. Do you know anything like that. Brayden no and I think that that was to match with plasma exactly right. Yeah Yeah Then I said automobile based video will become a reality not in twenty eleven but it is today. Okay with the Lt and I guess the forthcoming five G. and if you have like an IP TV set up Like I do with. At and T. ED TV now I got mobile based video. Yeah in a three point O.. Supposed to be adding to mobile functionality. Yeah but I. I don't even know if that's necessary with the IP TV but We can talk about that later and then and LCD TV will be demonstrated. That's one millimeter thick or less. I think we did do that. Not In twenty eleven though. So that's your time yes we typically are and then this one. I think I got right. Google TV will flop so we we have android TV but before android TV there was Google TV. There was there was that Logitech Was a Cov. Call the view or something. Yeah I don't remember what review something like that but yeah I definitely flopped. Google has made some TV products. Like the chrome cast. That have been very successful but Google TV back in the day. It was a big flop all right so I said that designer there will be designer three D. glasses. This was kind of piggybacking on the fact that everyone was pushing three d down our throats and I think three d. went away before designer. Three D. glasses could come out. Luckily so luckily I was wrong on that one. Pico projectors will build a niche. I don't know that that actually ever really happened He Co projectors or just kind of a It's it's a really really tiny niche so I guess there is a niche for Pico projectors. But it's just a super small niche. Nobody cares about what you think about. Pico projectors I agree Now Oh Pico. Projectors are the tiny tiny ones right because we have like ones that are. That'll fit in the palm of your hand. I don't believe those would be considered Pico. Projectors though were we thinking thinking the ones that would fit in your phone that would be a Pico projector. I think it was more along. The lines of it was when people doing projection if I remember back to this projection projection projection mapping on walls in the rooms and you could essentially turned a whole room into a TV screen. Using a bunch of Pico projectors select an array of Pico yeah and that never obviously yeah. I agree with you but yeah I I sent both of my daughters to school with these tiny projectors that they plugged into their phones and they projected him on the wall and my next one was that we would get new releases via streaming. And of course we get that now like nine years later. The Irishman and a bunch of really big budget a Well known directors producers and actors and actresses making the movies. But I don't know I don't remember honestly how long it took for us to get there certainly wasn't in two thousand eleven from what I can recall and then I said my bridge my prediction was Alta Google for the win. And I don't remember. Why took Google for the win win but Google hasn't slowed down anywhere so I think Google still winning good? I think you were saying they'll come up with something somewhere aware during this year and my guess is if you go back to twenty eleven they did come up with something somewhere but probably not something home theater related. Because I think you're right Google TV in flops. Yeah all right and then we did a quick. CAS RAPA Brayden. I'll hit the high points in you say you your Thoughts on it on live everywhere everywhere. HDTV HDTV's blue raise a BLU ray players tablets and phones on sale to celebrate Now I I don't know what that even means on live. TV everywhere on live everywhere. What does that even mean? I don't remember on live. It was a game service. That's what it was. It was a game service and it was on all the. TV's in the BLU ray players. Everyone had it. So that was the point that that was a big deal. In fact I remember we went into one room and they were demoing it and saying this streaming and look at how how responsive it is and that was going to be one of the things to take down a playstation xbox but that never really happened. Yeah if you search on live now it comes up as classic game system so yeah I think kind of disappeared and then TV powered by boxy and View Sonic was building one and remember when boxy was a thing. I do remember when boxing was a thing. It was sort of a home theater. PC based software. Sort of deal. I but that never happened in plaques and then there was Xbox cody and there's a bunch of other stuff but boxy Kinda just went away and then there's a video goes ultra-wide scheme string a screen remember. They had that twenty-one by nine HDTV which was Cinematic cinematic aspect ratio. I don't think that anything you know. I mean it's an interesting idea. But it's just such a niche format for people to want for their main TV I. I didn't didn't hang on for very long. And apparently JVC showed a prototype to is a fifty inch and They for all we know they could have been building videos. Z Os just went nowhere. And then there was the I o gear wireless. Three d media kit announced the currently. It was supporting five. Point one on audio with four HDMI inputs. So they were building. External boxes to create Wireless audio that's that's what it was. It was for wireless five point one and we have that now. But it's definitely not the I o gear. One yeah yeah the. I don't think anyone's gear stuff anymore but there is full. HDTV ADP Sixty Hertz. Three D content. Five point. One channel audio over wireless is pretty straightforward now and then. TV over the Internet. We have Panasonic and verizon demo tape e three D video streaming over files in and Sony plans. IPTV hook up with Time Warner. So that actually did come to fruition Sony did have their view. But that's gone by by the wayside but Panasonic and verizon demo. I don't think I think They were trying to stream Specifically but now with Eighteen Nineteen Hulu and all those other services that kind of became the thing. Yeah this didn't really come into its own until a couple years later when sling. TV came out right in place. Asia followed soon after a sling. TV was really the one that sort of Kool aid man broke down the wall and then a ton of other services followed after that and then Article we had in twenty eleven was mobile. HDTV and Motorola Mobility one time subsidiary of Google Released released new APP in the Google playstore called Yup and oh you bucarest it sorry. It was called mobile. HDTV and the APP enable select select phones and portable devices with the proper hardware to watch live TV all over the air. HDTV right on your android device. The concept is pretty simple will and you'd think it's very compelling but turns out most people can't use it and because you needed the right hardware and everything but now I believe every single phone. That's soul today can get mobile. HDTV yeah not in this way. They'll right I mean there's a special broadcom or qualcomm antenna In it or something that allows you to pick up TV over the air And but you're right now if you've got a four g phone and any of the streaming services you can watch TV anywhere you go and it's a whole lot easier than doing it this way just more expensive depending on what your data plane is i. Guess Yeah that's the one thing I like about. At and T. TV now is is that if you are streaming over their data network. It doesn't go against your Band caps but I did buy an unlimited plan land anyway so and pretty much it is unlimited because they never turn your off but after a certain amount they do slow you down but that amount is actually she pretty high and we don't come close to hitting it all right. Yeah that's just not that's not go through the holding but let's pick some of the items like we did in twenty eleven. What were some of the items that were cool? I don't know about the items that were cool but I mean some of the stuff that sticks out. How did you hear is like you could get a Sony? Fifty five inch ten eighty P led TV for seventeen hundred dollars And the price for a fifty five inch four K.. TV now is like three hundred bucks And in fact a thirty two inch seven twenty P TV at target back in the day was about the same price as a four K or four K Fifty five inch TV now. Two hundred seventy seven dollars at target and I remember back every year that we've done a black Friday brave you. It's been all man. These prices are crazy. I can't believe how low these prices are. You can get a TV for for this much money But looking back on it nine years later the prices would be considered ridiculously high nowadays. Yeah and you know. Samsung had a BLU ray player for ninety ninety nine and Sony had one for seventy nine ninety ninety nine. Those prices are pretty much what they are. Today it's funny the BLU ray just hit a price and just stayed there it. Never 'cause how much lower could you go. They'd have to give them to view. It just turns out. Nobody is really buying many more. They almost do have to give them to you and Paneth's K.. Mart had a fifty inch Panasonic Panasonic Plaza was seven twenty p. That was five hundred dollars. And what else we got on here of anything interesting. This sharp had a seventy inch. TV So right now today seventy inches is not anything that extraordinary back in two thousand eleven you and I were Kinda celebrating seventy inch TV's and the price was actually pretty good even in twenty eleven at at two thousand dollars it just. I believe that was about the beginning of the end for sharp and I think that the price came out it was because they're trying to get rid of him. Yeah that could be true And it was a ten eighty P TV Doesn't mention anything here about about three D. or smart or I don't even know if this yeah it was so it was essentially a ten eighty p seventy inch. TV with no other features of for two grand and that two grand prize would have been phenomenal elemental at the time And it's really not that bad now if you're looking at a seventy inch four K.. With all of the features that you WANNA get HDR in smart features and everything But yeah pound for pound. I mean probably is a whole lot more to but I can imagine a salivating over two thousand dollars seventy inch. TV back then all right and the last thing. We'll talk about from twenty eleven is we asked the question over the Air TV signals. Are they still needed so in twenty eleven we were asking were they. They needed They did we did quote an article where they did a survey and the first question asked us. How do you primarily receive your HDTV in twenty honey eleven? It was primarily over the air at sixty one percent cable was twenty percent satellite was fourteen percent and then telco. At and T. or verizon was four four percent so back then over there with sixty one percent and I thought that was overstated. I really had a hard time believing that the in twenty eleven most people were getting their. HDTV over the air because that was like seven years after the cut over. I believe yeah that number is I mean it may have been that in addition to other. Sonic you had the antenna up in addition to satellite But you primarily watched. HDTV From the antenna because it was higher quality than satellite or cable. That's true because when when at that point I remember direct. TV He was one of the first ones to move to 'em peg four and they were able to get a little bit better compression in a little bit higher quality as compared to the impact too so but but even by then I think we were starting to see it tail off then they ask the question. Do you plan on or have already completely cutting the court to receive your TV via the Internet internet or over the air and back in twenty eleven sixty six percent said yes and thirty four percent. No and I think most of those those people probably did because there's a lot of cord cutting it's it you see it all the time in the numbers that come out from the cable companies. The satellite companies how many subscribers are losing. And how many are going to P. TV services. Yeah I wonder if that first question how do you primarily receive your hdtv if that was asked asked again today and twenty twenty obviously the the streaming services don't show up as a question Back then but what would the percentage be people using one of the streaming services not a specific one but like in general a streaming service versus over the air cable satellite or Telco You'd have to think that there's a lot more people streaming stuff now than are doing over the over the year with sixty one percent back then It's just so much easier to stream now than it was to get over the air now. This obviously doesn't in fact in rural where you can't stream and you're probably still getting stuff over the air or cable or satellite in those areas Before areas where you can get high bandwidth you know instead of putting a giant antenna up on your roof and and hoping that you get good connection to the broadcast towers you can just stream it to me. Seems like that would be the number one. But I don't know all right and the last question do you use any of the following services so net flicks was eighty eighty two percent back then. Amazon video on demand was twenty five percent. They didn't even call it Amazon. Prime at that time it was just Amazon video on demand. I tunes forty-three percent. Hulu forty nine percent is a diva one percent in cable and satellite video on demand nineteen percent so a lot of people we're doing streaming back then but I would imagine Kim Netflix of got any higher than eighty two percent. I don't know but Then we would add Amazon. Prime Hulu is now us. Yeah Oh yeah. There's there's a lot I I believe. Streaming is going to be king if not already I think this was before Amazon had any of their own original content before they were doing any of the free prime stuff. This was just when you would do essentially the same thing as I tunes where yes S.. Like buy movies or rent shows from Amazon which is the I think? Now they're numbers would be much higher so many people have prime exactly the all right so the last thing we're going to discuss today. I found this article. It said four K.. Fail why completely hate. TCL's cheap four series series HDTV. A piece of junk. I saw this article and I immediately thought Brayden and let me tell you who wrote this article. His name is hairy coziness. And he's a senior director at the Center for National Interests and he works his work and ideas have appeared appeared in the New York Times Washington Po. CNN Fox News CNBC USA Today. So he's got a lot of credentials. I don't know of of any of those have anything to do with HDTV. But I just liked the article. And I wanted to ask Brayden questions. So that's kind of go through the articles really short okay first thing. He says despite some very serious concerns about who makes them and the illegal financial support they received to build. TV's at too good to to be true prices. US consumers love TC LTV so immediately. He's taking a shot at the Chinese manufacturers says in fact they also love their Other consumer products like sound bars and what appears to be some amazing foldable smartphones. And it's not hard to see. Why the Chinese manufacturer make some of the Best TV V. Sets on the planet they are built with quality materials well-constructed and delivering amazing picture? Now at eight K resolutions that rival and many times is top various models made by Samsung. Lg Sony or anyone else. The new T C O Q leads even get compared to ole Ed's and that says a lot so he sets that's it up where. TCL He says they make good TV's so brandon's right on board here right. Absolutely so he says the pros is love these. TV's as well interview after In a review in review after review the TCL's five six and new eight series. TV's when award after award so more of that but what. He says he had a friend and he had them said a foresees four series TV. That's her Lohan TV. And that's that's probably the ones that had the really really low prices at Black Friday and he says the picture quality is awful. I came in contact with the TV. I want a good friend asked me to set it up. He says powering up the set I know is pretty early on the picture. itself was very dim even after turning up the brightness of maximum Brayden your comments on that so this is the four series that we're talking about. It's the entry level. I own a four series actually own a couple three series because they're really small and the kids rooms other the ten eighty p. TV's to four series is a four K. hd our television but The one that I own is the fifty five s four zero five. The current version of that is the fifty five S.. Four twenty five. You can get it at Amazon for three hundred dollars so you can get a fifty five inch four K.. Hd Our television with roku built in for three hundred dollars so when you talk about how well does this TV perform you have to factor after the whole package in. You're buying a fifty five inch. TV or you know whatever size you happen to buy for the absolute cheapest you can buy a TV to be honest so if you're putting it in your home theater or you're putting it in like you kind of your centerpiece area of your house and you want it to be that the The focal point of your entertainment. You're putting the absolute cheapest. TV You can buy in as the focal point of your entertainment area. Mine mine happens to be in the master bedroom and I have absolutely no problem with the brightness in the master bedroom it is not a bright TV. So I'm going to say he's absolutely right there. It's it's not something where you know it's GonNa while you with how bright it is but it isn't at all too dim for me to be able to watch and enjoy content on it Is it the TV you can buy at fifty five six five seven five inch no absolutely not but it's the cheapest you can buy and I think it's still really good so from brightness perspective. Yes it's not super bright but it's easily bright enough for anything I watch on it. Yeah and he said he did turn up the brightness and it ruined everything so it did make it brighter but he said the whites were Pasty and harsh. The blacks at higher brightness looked very bad as well he says. TV from twenty. Five years ago. His Sony Vega from two thousand had a better picture sure and he says we tried different. Hd My ports blu rays net flicks and other devices in the picture. Quality did not change. Then he says four K.. Hd are perhaps was the biggest disappointment as it looked no different than standard for K.. And I'm not even sure how that's possible so my answer to that is the let's take. Hd are out of it for the for the very first part of the discussion four K.. On a fifty five inch. TV If there was no HD are you're not gonNA see any benefit from a resolution perspective agreed yes now. HDR should give you a benefit but if the picture is dim You need that brightness. So you can have the contrast so I think that makes sense just make it a little bit more dim in a essentially right if you have already. TV Yeah So I that stands to reason the picture quality I think were going to agree is bad then then he says build qualities cheap. I don't want to agree. It's bad okay. After I read this article I went and put on some net flicks four K. hd our content and there's a new Ah like five minutes. But there's some new documentary called night on earth or something like that where they do a bunch of video shots through Night Lenses on cameras and it shows a lot of very very dark content and I thought on my four zero five. TV looked compared compared to other. TV's that are three hundred bucks. Really really good. I didn't you know it wasn't too dim. I didn't lose contrast other probably would have been areas where on. TV A brighter TV. I would have seen more war but I didn't feel like I couldn't see what was going on. I felt like I could see the contrast I needed to be able to see and this was during the day it wasn't at night wasn't pitch-black in the room And and it didn't look bad so I would not agree that it's a bad picture or that. He says that the picture quality is awful. Maybe he got a bum unit But I I wouldn't agree at all like when I watched that night on earth content. I thought great. I thought that picture quality was was really good. Okay so he could have just been You know being a snob job picture snob. And there's a place for being that. Like for instance when we were watching the Super Bowl that we talked about earlier. You want the best TV possible so that you can can actually get the best picture but In your scenario it's going to do fine and you know what the other thing is if someone that's all they can afford That's GonNa be the best picture they can get because the hand afford anything different so But I guess what we're bringing the the people's attention is exactly what Brayden said remember. What the use cases if it's your main unit and you can afford a better TV and and you're just being cheap? You're not GONNA be happy. Maybe you will. But that's not the way to go if it's a unit for your bedroom then it's perfect right and I agree that it's not a very bright TV so if it's going into your main the no living room or wherever your main TV is and it's a very bright room with a lot OUGHTA windows. You are going to struggle during the day trying to get a good picture on it because it's just not bright enough to overcome that So yeah I would get a brighter. TV for that kind of environment. But if it's a an environment where lights are controlled or you can close curtains or whatever And is like you said it's the best you can afford. It certainly not awful. So so what's your take on build quality compared to year six or seven series. TV's he's saying that it's noticeably different. I mean it is cheap deep But it's not any cheaper than most of the TV. They're out there it's a plastic frame Around the TV one thing. I've noticed lately with the four is there might have been in an update to it because it seems like the U is a bit more sluggish than it was when I first bought it or maybe I have too many apps running on it or something so it it certainly isn't the most powerful awful TV And there there are some knits to it But I've installed so many different. TV's from so many different manufacturers. As I can't say that the build quality is any is significantly worse than anything else. Okay and Sound he says you need a sound bar. You have a sound bar in your master bedroom. I don't I've thought about buying the TCL wireless speakers for it because the sound isn't very good But it's I mean listening to sound through. TV on pretty much any TV. Sucks I have you know a few. TV's like a a Phillips TV in a couple of others who are just listen to the sound through the TV. And I you know other other than we had A. JVC once way back in the day that had a really interesting speaker designed built into the cabinet that gave it a much fuller richer sound. I don't remember what that JBC model Oughta was And that was the one TV. That I saw that I thought okay. Wow the speaker itself in the TV is built really well and sounds really good but otherwise watching you know listening through a TV speaker. Just it sucks yeah I agree and then Lasting says after a few days my colleague ended up bringing the TV back. I can considering his options for a few weeks before making another purchase. I try to convince him to go with the more high-end Q.. Lead series sixty. LTV which delivers amazing quality for a good price. Sadly he was pretty turned off by the four series in won't we won't consider E. C. L.. Now honest I can't blame him. I wonder how many other consumers will come to that same conclusion so that's an interesting point. There is a reason why manufacturers occurs have different series and if you go with the lowest series it's safe to assume that it's not their best TV and a lot of times it's the difference between some features but the picture quality is the same but other times it's actual picture quality. That's that's the difference. Yeah back in the day when I had my first plasma my brother-in-law got a DLP TV. And you had a D. L. P. S. I do and I I watched your dot. And I thought awesome that was. HDTV IT looked beautiful. Look really really good. He got a DP was a different manufacturer. If I remember right and try as I might to calibrate it I couldn't get it to look good and he ended up just getting frustrated he returned the DOP and instead of getting a different deal here another drp the saint plasma I had And you know it looked good and he was. It's fine with it. He was happy with it So every once in a while you'll just get you know an experience where maybe it's the TV. Maybe it's just you know the environment or your expectations or the source content. You're putting into it and it just doesn't look good. It doesn't mean that every single one of them is going to be terrible. Maybe it's just not the right one for you but Just because he had a bad experience with his. TCL doesn't mean everybody will like just like when my brother had a bad bra. brother-in-law had a bad experience with his deal. P didn't mean that I was GONNA call you up and said hey you got to return your DRP. It sucks you know. I mean I thoroughly enjoy the TCL that have in the master. And would I change it. Offer a better TV. If I could probably not because I'd spend that money elsewhere it's good enough for me for that that location that I don't have any issues with it So this author had a bad experience experience with a four series. I can't tell you if it was the TV or if it was just higher expectations of what he should get out of the three hundred dollars four K. TV or not but that doesn't mean that everyone's everyone's going to have that same experience so that's all we got for you today. That is it if you have experience positive negative or or Not with a a particular. TV or especially TV. Fire off an email to us or coming up at the webpage and if you have one or whatever kind of TV you got go estimates D. 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Ep 100: In Dog Years, this is Episode 700

Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone

1:44:38 hr | 7 months ago

Ep 100: In Dog Years, this is Episode 700

"Weren't. Coming to you live from our houses in Los. Angeles. California it's nobody listens to Paula. Poundstone your comedy field guide to life tonight, canine cognition staying at home. It's been a lot of quality time with our dogs. But what are they really thinking? Are they wondering when we'll give them some privacy again? Dr Alexandra Horowitz Senior Research Fellow and Adjunct Associate Professor at Barnard College has spent her life studying. Studying domestic dog, cognition and behavior. She's here to tell us what our dog fake do. They love us as much as they love food. Parents of teenagers often ask that same question and get same answer, plus it's our one hundredth show. Wish centenarians will celebrate being nobody's who made it to one hundred. We owe it all to a diet of double stuff, Oreos and the wrong kind of exercise. I'm Adam felber. Man Who tries to this shows conversation trucking inside the typical dog run then now, please welcome the woman who bounds over every conversational offense and houses the moon even in the midday Sun Paula poundstone. Welcome. Thank you so much a big welcome. To tonight how span flouted Lindsey Goodman from pickering ten Ohio. Fantastic. Flouted I have never felt comfortable that word. Would, you prefer flutist. Yeah fleet just sounds. Sounds. Yeah Yeah. Yeah any anyway so nice to be here back on my treadmill. That's not turned on. God, yeah, otherwise rate I go right through the back of my closet. Right yeah I'm having one hundredth birthday. Paula not birthday episode. Episode Yeah. Yeah I. You know I think he's GonNa. Have Datum well. You'RE GONNA find. It feels very much like the ninety nine hundred. And will find that. It's very similar to the hundred and I. I don't know I'm not a big like I've told the story thousand times, but it really is true. which is when I was turning fifty. I thought for sure I was going through some sort of. Some sort of emotional portal or something you know like there was my build up to turning fifty people always talk about it. It's the big one it's. It's a milestone. It's very much like driving over the Alabama Georgia border there's no. It's. It's the same. Yeah, it's very much. So. You're saying that because you're fiftieth. Birthday was no great shakes. You'RE NOT GONNA. Let our hundred episode be special. Oh No. Every show is special. That's my feeling atom. Paschel but that's. I mean I. I raised my children in the era where that's what you always told them. That they're special and that. You know every each each of them is special in every child through special. Well, you know now. Apparently, they say that we raise a generation of kids that are kind of entitled. Trophy generation and I read a article about that one day a nightclub. My kids up and I said Oh. My Gosh I've made a terrible mistake I, said. You're not nearly as specialist thought you were. Going to help. That's what everybody wants mom to call and say at some point. Yeah, yeah, I. Think you know since we had that frank discussion. They've really turned a corner. Yeah so anyway, so yes, every show is special atom. Wealth of yours on his special. Special all right. See you know what I. Maybe this was was this last night. I don't know how the days you don't know anymore. What Day was what day? We are. The heat of this thing, this thing a yeah so okay. I'm not able to go. Do standup shows in theaters where people gather in large groups? And they don't because they because they don't and they shouldn't let me just say I'm not sorry that they don't I'm sorry that they can't but I. don't want them to until they can. Having having said that, so I don't have any income so I'm very careful. What like with food? You know I know the difference between wants and needs I. Don't I'm lucky to have what I have i. don't need things right so very careful, so you know I don't eat out obviously I don't even order food, too. I so I had gone to the grocery store a while ago I'm very careful with my phone, so I had planned in a meal planning at him I planned to have rosen beans the other night, but the last time that I've had beans. It had a flip top. Can. I feel like a story could have started at rice and beans, but okay here we go. Okay so the last time I had been, there was a flip top. Don't snack a lot during the day either very careful, so really hungry for my rice and beans dinner last night and get to open the CAN. There was no flipped up on it. And so off! So I did around in a drawer. Hold on. I'm going to need a second I'm going to need a second there. It was a regular old can. It was regular old cannon I. Dig around in the drawer and I find a can opener, but. I don't know works. I dig around in the drawer and I found another can opener and a different kind. And I didn't know how that one worked either and I kept trying and trying and nothing doing working in now i. Get like Ken opener. The kind that has you know for beer so that? The thing that you like puncture tomato juice cans with you basically out. A Lot. Couldn't find one I didn't. Follow to be honest. If you've found one unless you spend a long time with it, you would be extracting those beans one at a time from that can. I had already spent a long time with it. Is trying to open that Cam for fucking our. Event I went through the cabinet like I know I. have more cans of beans in here, but they were all this a regular kind of so. You know what I had for dinner. I do not I'm guessing rice. That's exactly right. Wow I had a large bowl of rice and frustration spiced a little bit with all tears I had to look it up on the Internet like I didn't think to that day. I looked it up the next day. So now you never use a can opener. It was totally not the way I was using. I can't imagine how you would use it. I do I. Know How to use a can opener. Yes, but these two can. openers were unlike any can open I've ever seen at my daughter. I'M GONNA ask you to do us a favor. Would you take a couple of pictures of those can openers and post them on our social media? I WANNA see wh-. I think we all deserve to see what the can opener that flummoxed Paula. POUNDSTONE looks like. I know I don't want people to get the idea that I'm some sort of you know entitled Wench who hasn't had to open your own cans for years. We had a can opener that worked fine. I think what happened is when when my daughter was living here I think she decided that it wasn't like it was somehow not modern enough. And so can she got rid of the one that I knew how to use because I can't find it anywhere, and she bought these like I think she got it from like Suheila. Tableau or something see I think Netflix. Well. But it's like some fucking modern. I want to see a picture of it I want to see a picture. I wanted to go up on our facebook. Group I wanna see what is the can opener that that destroyed you, but before we go. A picture of is what I did to my teammates. Do you try to open a can with your teeth, yeah. You shouldn't do that I. Don't have a lot of food I, wasn't I really wanted being with my rice? And you've never seen a can opener. This can opener by the way I've never seen one like it. It I'm picturing some sort of Dr Seuss like machine that's powered by mice and stuff. Yeah, it makes a hunting noise. When I? When I did finally see how it's used and I don't know if I could do it or not myself. I was holding it. Sideways. I had I had it the wrong way. I know I get it. Well. We've reached this moment. Let let's take a second and go around the Horn and say hi to the rest of our cast of characters here on the show. Find out how they're doing and hopefully stuck here in in our corona stasis. They've experienced new things as we can tell us something new and exciting, so Tony Anita Hole in Studio City California. How are you? I'm fine. She sends brimming with news. Starting to question a segment. What's new Tony? Nothing, nothing is new. I have to be honest really. I mean. Nothing I know one thing that's new for Tony which is that she has been approached by CBS. News anchor. Really allegiance because of that kind of presentation that she just gave. Good evening this is Tony Hall and here's the. News here is Indiana. This is I'm tonita. Hall, IT'S A it's A. It's not a long news. Show she just. Everything's fine. Things. Yeah, wow all right well, Tonia I could see how you would have. Not seen the segment coming that we've been doing for the last three four weeks and. Not, even made something the fuck up, but okay. On we go. See Lady of a busy. Busy. With. You working on stuff. Or for the PODCAST for the the game show for. Midday job. Busy nothing to? Tony. Tony is the person who reaches out to guests. For your new game show for your forthcoming game show for us for this show. She reaches out to the guests to get them to come on the show and so yeah, absolutely yes, so she's been polishing her ask. She does it. Way What does it? She's been polishing her ask. Her Ask Oh, yeah, okay. Wow, that's better than the thing. I thought you said. She she goes. Hi. This is Tony Neto? Wondering. What if Jerry Lewis now. Jody. Wondering if you. Show. No. It didn't sound like no. It sounds like Tony Anita Hall. Okay. Bonnie Burns from some horse farm up north how you doing? Event I'm not prepared. Captain. crinkle Bonnie Burns Paulo's manager producer and just automatic noise generator. What's new? Well, I'm trying to figure out if I have the nerve to Tau. This really embarrassing story of what happened to me this week. Do All right. So, you're stuck in a well. I! Was that stuck in a well? I think it's even more embarrassing them out. into starting to well no but. UNFORTUNATE! Okay go ahead. So remember last week when I said that I'd been wearing the earplugs it. They were just like a cheap headset that you buy at the airport, so you can hear like radio or something. Not a radio, but you know like. On the plane so. Yeah ear buds, but I don't WanNa. Get confused with rate Kahn, which are like you know high and. Your brains okay so anyway. I wore them and I've been wearing for a long time. I got a really bad. Eric and my daughter said it was because I've been wearing them for too long. And I thought that was weird because I do wear them for a long time because I do some editing on the show, things like that so I take him out and you know figured it would go away in a couple of days, and it didn't and now I'm trying to put i. read on the Internet and it says you can use olive oil like what you stew for New York all of. God you going to sell stuck in, you're either. Going this is going to a bad place fast and then I said to my daughter. Can Go to the store and see if there's something like four sore ear and get me some drops, and she comes back with something that was holistic, but it didn't seem like it was for Sawyer, and then in the directions that said you know may cause the to feel worse for a couple of days, and then it'll go. Right I don't WANNA use that wasn't seal. Was it flexible then? Of course you feel worse. So then He. I was. When I was younger, I put like hot clause on your ear. That would feel better. I'm doing that. That's reasonable. Everything felt better because you were younger, so don't use them. Yeah. Yeah, now I wake up in the morning. I'm thinking this year. Feel better and someone would feel a little better. I'm starting to think because you know they say after five days go see Dr. now. It's been like maybe seven days like maybe an infection going up into my brain or something and I have a good med-. Today should now. It's getting close to memorial. Day and the ears actually starting to feel worse, and it seems like it's going into my jaw. Getting concerned and I'm thinking. Memorial Day weekend I'm not be able to get anybody if this is an emergency and actually I'm thinking what if like I have to call an ambulance or something so within you got. What you could be in the parade, I can. Take you all, so I managed to get into my doctor. WHO's at Ucla I'm in such pain. I got a navigate those thing with the mass and waiting. They let you go up in the elevator one at a time. I go in and go. My ear is so sore to really bothering me and she looks at with the scope. Excuse you haven't earbud. Graham Bonnie. Okay. I need to hear more now. I never thought I'd say these words but Bonnie to hear more from you. Don't busier. Aren't those ear buds attached to wires? They are like when I'm. On My. Oh my God, apparently in her in her sleep, she gnawed through the wire. I mean. The wire come out or something. Tony. Would you shut up? Oh God. I now I'm the impossible task of asking you to answer a question that I need an answer to Bonnie. Okay, so when I because I'm on the computer so much I only wear one bud. In my ear, not both of them. Why is this? Well because it just really bothers me to have all the sound blocked off site, only Q.. Buds were these wireless buds or something. No, it's like you plug it into your computer. Okay, so Adam's point is there's a wire connected. To the EARBUD. What did you do with the wire? So I had one, but in my ear, and I never I put whatever, but is I, see laying around I stick it in my ear. So yeah, you're right. After few days I, did see one bud lane around. That didn't have a little wire. Hair Brawny. Turn to translate here, you know the Little Doo Hickey you put on top of the budget. Change sizes sometimes. Yeah, she's right. Little silicon do Hickey wasn't he earbud? Several. These were like cheap ones. I bought it the airport with my daughter. Over it was a little red rubber tip in. Okay, here's the really grossest port can't believe. I've gotta tell it it wasn't she said to me like a what it's in there. She goes yet pink, right. Now was red. Little Red Silicon of rubber thing. Kid who's ten would do. So. I gotTa Tell Ya. Body Burns all I can say is you went through a few horrible days with this incredibly irritating thing in your ear, right? That's what it's like. To Talk to you. Know you know the thing is I've noticed certainly that I mean talking talking to Bonnie. CH-. She doesn't hear very well, no I. What she does is instead of saying. I'm sorry I didn't hear you. She'll guess what she. said. Absolutely right oftentimes guest. Has Jack Shit to do with what you were talking about? Well. This must have made that worse for a few days. Because now she had A. Up to a tiny little red rubber condom, inner ear, preventing anything from getting in. So, we'll be talking and Bernie. You'll say well. I say I was going to interview somebody about a book and she'll say well. Did you read the book and I'll say no I didn't finish reading the book and she'll go fished in a brook. Oh, my God. All right I need here's what I need. I've got my needs on his hundredth show that I feel like we've already destroyed. I need to stop thinking about that thing in Bonn easier right now, so I'm. Not Telling you is yes, this happened to be some sort of earbud thing. But she has for a long time used her ears as storage. Well Bonnie I gotTA. Thank you for sharing that. That's. Brief thing to do a very brave thing to do. Care God politics, you have a word. I'm. Help all the paint. It's the word is slipper, and it means something that might be an burns his ear. Oh Lords. US further proof that are hundreds. Episode is like most others I have a word. Fantastic? Casuistry, it's a noun that means the use of clever but false reasoning here all use it in a sentence. Her her throw death. Penalty arguments are casual. CASUISTRY casuistry. Street? Clever but faulty argument, so it sounds like a good. Yeah, precisely so if you need any more growth that this is a show like any other, despite the fact that it's our hundred episode, the proof is this. Here's my vocabulary song. This week's word is. Story. It's changed the use of clever but false reasoning. It's not wrong to eat meat if you're using seasoning last week's word was. Announced that means a sign of what will in the future, an omen after the Seder. The kids are GonNA. Find the off the Komen the week before that we had Cav, though verb that means make trivial complaints or objections I. Don't WanNa Condom on my boyfriend's erections going back before that we had in your verb means become used to something especially something unpleasant like napping in school to say present not long ago we add. It to now that means money especially when gain this his sleeve. There's probably a slice for handed not. Let's not forget. Go, Emma free which I pronounce wrong until nobody James Hider corrected me. Its announcement means confused, jumbo or medley of things hodgepodge. WHO's watching? Budge. Adam dozen. Myself? Bull Replica Bull. replicable. But I do I do I do I do a? Wonderful Wonderful Song. My Gosh. Boy. Bernie, did you hear any of that? I don't think he did follow yeah! Bonnie. Back in the day when we could have dinner parties in Bonnie Burns would host a dinner party and it was a cool night in December, she might say you can take your coat and you'd say yes, and she shoved her ear. Today's. I just loved that at. No point in Bonnie say to the other human being her house. Her daughter Hey I mean. Would you take a look in my ear? I did I said as my ear look infected and she said well, it's swollen. Shine! Shine a flashlight. But. WHY WOULD I be? Know what an infected ear looks like? She's not a doctor, she this. This must have looked awful. You know by the time well. No, it wasn't I. Don't think it was affected by the time I was at the doctor. That thing was so far down in my ear, I guess from swallowing or something. I guess from swallowing or something. What or no got so this is such a good stories you. Know. No that thing was so far in her ear. taffer bowel retracted. Wow, that's far hey, poundstone. French. They'll bear. Oh, French trump welcome to the show and trump. You've got your own spinoff I'm told I do a announcing to you. Nominees that will outsmart impress the enemy of ZIP. At another French trump press comfort wrong. What's Mini PODCASTS ZANDT? Rob's each week on Friday at five PM. Eastern time and two PM DO PM Pacific. Tom Zehr. A stray our times a twelve hour time difference which I calculated no computer scratch paper because I and very stemmed genius. You're very. Genius I'm such a stable genius. Putting, not zing in my ear. Even listen. That's a little goes in Jesus. That's something you have in common with Bonnie Burns. Based French trump coming up. Will Rogers said if there are no dogs in heaven than when I die I? Want to go where they went. We love our dogs. But what do they really think about US canine cognition with Professor Alexandra Horowitz that's coming up when we return on, nobody listens to Paula poundstone. Better help. The world's largest counseling service has asked me to talk to you about something. That's really important, which is your mental health and how to reach out and get help, which is so important at this time you wouldn't hesitate to go to the doctor for professional care if you had a broken arm, your mental health deserves the same attention. Better help assess. 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Of course, he must be much bigger now. She's a giant, but you know when I was looking for a new puppy. Somebody sent me like a picture of Little Labrador and they said Oh. You can have this puppy and I say you know what I'm not gonNA lab because I do not want a tennis ball obsessed dog. Got My dog Mo who is a part golden retriever Newfoundland and she is the most tennis ball obsessed. Dog I've ever known in my entire life. Just what you get a retriever if you didn't want Doug. Tennis bull obsessed I mean it's in the name at no. I grew up with a golden retriever. He you know we would play with a tennis ball, but he didn't. It wasn't all he thought about. So I. Don't know I like the talk a little fetch, but this is like beyond. Fetch no I hear you I kind of wish. My dog were closer to your dogs. Spectrum gets Luna. Our beloved and wonderful cockapoo turned three this week. Show fetch something maybe twice and then she'll look at you like. Why do you keep throwing that shit away? I've brought it to you twice now. It's your problem then. Loan is GonNa. Point out to you that. The third birthdays really not all that meaningful. SF. I bet she will anyway for all of us who have pondered what our dog is actually thinking when he looks at us with those mournful is we have a leading expert on canine cognition Dr Alexandra. Horowitz is a senior research fellow at Barnard College and the author of inside of a dog. What dogs see smell and now? Also being dog, following the dog into the world of smell, and most recently our dogs ourselves. Please welcome, Dr Alexandra Horowitz. Dr Horowitz thanks. Thanks for having me so. Our gender on the CNN website. There's often an ad that they're trying to get you to click on. And it says find out what your dog is trying to tell you by licking its paws and I've always lorded, but recently. I've noticed that my dogs do keep licking their paws. They trying to? well I love that because advertising is all about getting you to obsess about something that actually don't care at all about right right, so in this case I think it's actually done you kind of a service. It's gone you to notice a perfectly normal and unremarkable behavior. That maybe you? For. Having. Licking their paws. Chewing their pause a little bit because my my dog chooser pause. So I mean licking is pretty normal. It's part of self grooming you know or also. It's part of just keeping themselves. Busy during the the many hours in a human household that there's kind of nothing for them to do. So, if they are looking to the extent of chewing that the for is missing, or there's raw skin I. Guess they are telling you something which is go to the vets, because maybe they have skin, condition or they're stressed out. otherwise it's perfectly normal, and probably all their. If they're not actually making bald patches on their, I should just leave Luna alone with that. Yeah, yeah, they're just trying to kind of by the time basically, and maybe it's a way of a little bit getting your attention. Get off the CNN website and kind of hang out with me because it draws your attention to them, but yet normal behavior so when I. When I leave the House, which obviously don't do very much, but you know. Go to the grocery store. Go fill up the gas tank or something I. Put my dogs in their cages, and and they give me that look that apparently means. Don't worry about me. I'll just be in here like in my boss is. Exact! I like how you put you. Put them in their cages. It's like a crate. Yeah, but it is sort of like a cage again. Yeah, it's yeah. It's a little cage. Yeah, so the. Crates because it doesn't sound bad right, but little K- tandis bag. You put them in their little zoo there. Yeah, they're just resigned to it. I mean they put up with a lot of things from US including just waiting for the moment when things are GonNa happen for them, which is usually when we do something with them, right? We take him for a wash. For them, so they're just resigned to waiting. So, let me ask you a kind of a more from thousand feet up question. How do you tell were? Dogs are thinking that seems to be what you do. How do you that? Yeah I mean that's that is sort of professional GIG I. my interest is really what it's like to be a dog. So what is what did they perceive like? What do they detect in the world? What do they think about? But the only tool I have to do this? Just really close observations of how they behave. Will you in his cage? And then you'll have a sense. Well, that's kind of abnormal behavior. Write them in a natural sort of a natural setting so one way study behaviors. I just look at dogs interacting when that kind of thing was happening all the time. Over long period of time and I try to see patterns in their behaviors, so it tells me something about what they know or understand about each other so our most recent study we asked them to. For interested in if they understand how big they are, and if they understand their own size, relative to the environment. Do not. Yeah, there's no right you solve that for us then. Days it, it does seem like the big dogs thing that they can fit on your laps, and the littlest dogs think that they can take down like a pack of Wolverines all by themselves right now. I think you're right, but it's but for instance in play when you see a really big dog in a really little dog playing together. The big dog really moderates their attacks of the little dog they don't. Dog You know they, they do what we call self handicapping where they they don't do as forceful bite, or as forcefully jump, or they lie down on the ground, and let the little dog kind of walk all over them, and the little dog tries to make themselves bigger by making a lot of noise, but that really upright posture that like a little Chihuahua might have. They seem to know their size and play together really well. You know acknowledging that made me. My Dog Mo is just an asshole because. I I. I. Don't leave her alone with my cats like even in the other room very often because I just, there's something about her that I don't trust, but I have a couple of really elderly ailing cats that barely they don't move very much, but they don't seem to have the good sense to get away from the dogs I think it's like end of life behavior. They're just like go ahead. Eat Me, but when I go out, be making. Trying to open beans in the kitchen and when I go into the living a week. That could take. When I go into the living room I, often find my dog Mo with her paw, and this is a big dog with her paw, totally crushing. One of these ailing cats. Just SORTA squish down, not really objecting by the way and the dog just sort of slowly nibbling her. and. How seemed to have a feeling like she's doing anything bad. And I'll. Donate that cat. Um It is and she thinks she's playing and. Is playing. Sweat she seems to have no sense. That cat is so infirm that a big dog paw on its head. It can't stand up. Alexandra. Are Some dogs assholes? No, okay, the greatest thing about dogs I think they are just all. Lovely creatures. They put up with humans. What what Alexandra I used to have this theory, but human beings I taught it to my kids to I always told them there's no such thing as a bad person. That's good people that sometimes make either bad choices or just didn't understand what they did or Blah Blah I've changed that recently and you think. I mean dogs. Don't I don't think they try to do things badly. Some rude a little bit. You know summer lighting push boundaries. But I got give it to them. They're in this totally foreign environment with all all these different species, and they have to figure out the rules of this whole other species, and they more or less. Do Okay. You know and I feel like that's a credit to them. That's true. That is true. Okay, but what about this Alexandra? The other day it was in the kitchen, trying to open a can of beans and I came into the living room, and my dog Mo had mega hat on. What about that? Well there goes your theory Alexandra. I see problem. Exactly what she was doing. Now Alexander. Let's talk about something that that fewer humans do which is peeing on stuff. And talk about. Dogs they'll go. They'll sniff sniff around the neighborhood they'll. They'll piano Doug's P. it's not marking territory. It seems more like sending what's going on there. It's actually kind of a brilliant question. Because it gets at the heart of all these things, we kind of misunderstand about dogs. We get these like really sticky ideas about dogs like Oh dogs are trying to be the Alpha. In family or dogs are marking their territory, and and you're right. That's not right. It's just some myth. Dogs thugs do kind of mark meaning. They're peeing in place or away. That'll be noticed by other dogs because there. It's a way of leaving information about themselves in their urine is just. WHO THEY ARE! Basically, it's their identity. It's their health. It's their sex. It's what they've eaten recently. And they leave it in places with other dogs will notice it a kind of dog bulletin board, so it's like a made drugs league leaving its resume like a calling card right if they're smelling and other dogs p than they're not trying to cover it because it's their territory if they either to. It's that they're noticing. Hey, this is a really good place to leave a smell like Hustle K.. I noticed it so I'm to leave my smell here to. Maybe it covers up someone else's. Maybe it doesn't. It's yeah, it's like a little bulletin board with all this little cards stuck on it. You know my dog. Dog Named Cal at one point and he. It was so hard to walk him because. He was forever stopping to sniff and the thing is. It was a really active dog, and so I wanted him to walk when we were walking to wear him out a little bit, and you could tell that he thought he was a great hunter. Like a great tracker. You'd find actual dog waste on the sidewalk and stop and sniff a really long time as if he were saying to me, you know. I think another dog was here. Thanks I mean the thing is I've really loved that and that it's some level. You allowed him to sniff. Because that's their whole world, their world is about it's going out for walk. We'd go out for walk like let's have a good walk your. Let's get around the block or get home. Before I gotta do that other thing and they're when they go outside. They're like WHOA. It just smells so amazing here. They're all these things to investigate and I think that's like the idea. Walk for the dog is where they. Along, and then they sniff something for as long as they WANNA. Sniff it and get a sense of WHO's been by. You know that's why they love walks more than the then say hanging out in the backyard it's it's not overwhelmed with smells okay. Exciting I do mean work I. Don't I don't let my dog stop and smell things usually because I want to be the pack leader and say when we're stopping. But that's me otherwise. They take my shoulder out of the socket. 'cause we'll be making pretty good time and all the sudden I like. Oh, there's a smell here. Anna and they're anchored to the ground, and I fly forward. So, how do you deal with that? What? Are the pack leader. No not really. I mean. The analogy to wolf behavior doesn't work dogs. I mean. There's no I mean you are in charge, so you can do that and dogs are here. I Will Harken back to my previous comments. Good enough. They will just deal with whatever we say is going to happen with them right like you WanNa. Have a fast walk, you WANNA take them for a run. They'll just deal with it as much as they can. But for them. That's like Smelling the exciting thing about the walk and And you know this. That's their social world. It's like you're going for your drive. Pass the Grand Canyon. And you're like looking at the Grand Canyon someone like slams the window shut like turns your head the other way we would say this is the point of being here to look smell to see this and for dogs. I think that's what it's like. It's always these like olfactory fireworks all around them. They're excited about it and we can just say like you know what we're getting. We're going home going home as fast as we can, but you. I kind of take the approach, which is the dogs like? This is what they WANNA do. GonNa let them do it. Within win later that night are squirrelly because they didn't get enough exercise like. Geez. You know you only work a few feet. I don't don't well. Not everyone has to be a sniffing walk. You know maybe like they have a sniffing walk is so with my dogs. They have a time when they can run around like mad and then another time where we just do these really slow sniffing walks where you have to be really patient and just imagine all the exciting things that they're smelling. Even though to us, it looks like nothing you know. It looks like a dog turds weeping, but that's it's interesting to them. Have you taken your dogs to smell the Grand Canyon. They. Feel like they are every day smelling. The Grand Canyon I took my cats at a grand canyon. You. Mean you took your Cat Canyon? What did they do? Well when and I were driving across the country to move to L. A. it was just the two of us and our cat horatio in the backseat, and he got really comfortable riding in the car, and looking out the window and stuff, and when we got to the grand. Canyon I was like I can't let this cat pass up the chance to see the Grand Canyon so I picked him up and walked them to to the view. You know what that explains why when I took donkeys down to the base of the grand, Canyon. There was a dead cat there. He didn't die I. Didn't drop them. Hey, Alexandra let's talk about instincts for a second, because dogs do a bunch of stuff that they couldn't have learned from anybody, but they all seem to do the same thing. What our instincts. Where are they in a dog's brain? What's up with the instincts? Stinks which we have to. Just a reflexive behavior that's for longtime in psychology was distinguished from these cognitive kind of more sophisticated, thought out behaviors. The instincts are the things that don't really require the brain. Per Se so. A you know I, see a Lion I. Don't sit around and saying hey, what's that? It's like some kind of large feline. Maybe I should take cover I just run. It just run. It happens right away. That's instinct. Parts of the brain and being instinct, Oh, yeah, oh, we have plenty of reflexive behaviors any I mean if you see a lion, while maybe that's just me, but when I if I. Lie In just wandered into this room with me. I would have this instinct to get away from the lion I wouldn't just kind of sit there and cogitate on what's happening to me now. If you found that you suddenly had a an object lodged in your ear. Would you actively act? Take it out. It sounds like there's more to that story. Yes, there is. There is before you came on. We found out that our stead. Our producer Bonnie Burns captain crinkle had a piece of an earbud in her ear for what sounded like a week. Wow. Yeah abolition early it would be most adaptive to guess investigate that strange for an object in your ear. 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My dogs scan around in the backyard, and even if they're in the house, they insist on going into the backyard when people are in the alley, because there's so much more foot traffic now with people trying to get out I find it annoying. Are Am I supposed to let them do that or not. Bark at people who goes by yeah. Yeah, well I mean I think it is. It's funny because the bark probably developed. In dogs in order to kind of match human language in other words. Wolf's do not bark for the most part. No other candidates really bark. No other members of the dog family coyotes Howl, but this barking behavior is mostly just dogs so at some point in human history would probably encourage them to do this because we wanted them to be good guard dogs. And so now we have the you know the generations after that who feel like this is the right thing to do and at some level. It's kind of not their fault. There's not a lot you can do about it except for redirect their behavior, so the thing you could best is just like change our own attitude about it. What the I think barking started to look different to me when I realized how many different types of barks there are, so you know there are guarding barks? It's really different than a play barred. It's really different than a this food is mine bark. For then a I'm by myself. I've been left alone on my by myself in the house. Spark the isolation. So, they're all lanes. Really different types of barracks in that makes it seem more communicative and then unless just noisy when they do it. My dog has different barks is definitely an aggressive one until she recognizes the person at the door and it got all high pitched in greeting like. I mean they're telling you like I've noticed something and they're kind of surprise that you're not all excited about their observation will. Wouldn't it be enough in Alexandria to say to them? Yes, I see, thank you. But when you open the door. Then often, they will stop barking like it's your. That's the way you acknowledge they don't understand. Are you know they understand our behaviors better than our language? Just the same way we understand their behaviors better than their language. You don't really like it. You keep citing with dog. I am on the drug side I. I have a friend whose dog. Eats its, waste. And when you say friend, you mean who? Argument she can't here right now. Okay, so so bunny, Burns who shall remain nameless, has a dog who who eats poop, not both his own and other dogs. In Science. We call that. Copper Asia so that we don't have to say they eat poop. We'd say. and that's really normal behavior, unfortunately, because among. Dogs that there are a lot of nutrients in the POOP. Other dogs in the poop of. Humans that. Behind the tree. There's just a lot of nutrients still in that poop and. Peter of a dog, you've just gotTA. poop eater of dogs, nothing you can do about it. You can do something about it, but it takes a lot of effort. Basically you have to be on like poop surveillance, and when you notice poop out there in the world, you have to distract your dog with an even better treat than this delicious poop popsicle, so if you do. Do that repeatedly than when they start smelling it than they'll look to you. Be like okay. I smelled the POOP. Like where's mind delicious, non poop treat, but if you it, it kind of requires you to be on the lookout for poop of other dogs or of your dog, which most people want to do that, so with takes guarantee. Your body's not to do that. there. A breed that eats waste and it's A. it's called a short hair waste, not want not. That what is called Paula Yeah. Yes, let's move onto some myths or some things about dogs that have recently been updated one is. We were all raised to believe. The dogs are colorblind. That's not what we think anymore is. No, no, that's not true. That's another one of those sticky facts that we've just. Leave about dogs because I guess it sounded good. That is not in any way. True Dogs Aren't colorblind. They have. To Color Vision, so humans have three different types of cells in the is called cones that fired a colors. That's what creates all. Our Co chrome colors that we see in the world. We have a when the fires to red and one blue one. The virus degreen dogs just have to one that's kind of fires to blue, the other one that fires to like a greenish yellow, so a experience, a color most strongly when it's in the range of Blue Green, but they consider. Read. That will not not the way we do I. think that's the thing I think when I think of an analogy to it, it's it's kind of like a dusk when. Colors seem less strong to us. You Know Sun starts going down I think I. my guess is their experience experiences a little bit more like bats, but they can still tell the difference sometimes between red and yellow things, because they are differently bright, you know. They have different levels of saturation, but they do see colors I think it's. We didn't think they did because. Oh, we thought just good smelters, so they. Probably you're basically blind, right? We don't have that much of an imagination when it comes to other animals perceptions. Policies taken a dogfight again. Yeah, honestly you. Can you know what? I thought they were colorblind. Because when I showed my dogs wizard of Oz, they could give a shit. Even at that big moment right right even when she cooks out the door in is way to us and everything's colorful like that. They didn't care at all. KINDA disagree. Then I showed them on a VCR, so I rewound, and I said no look. Do you see how it's dark is black and white, and she comes out of the house in his color, and they just looked at me. And sniffed they not all. Not all dogs are big judy. Garland fans I've I've found that, so that might have been what was going on there. Alexandra. My Dog Mo-. I used to bring her with me back when we were in a studio. I just bring her with me every week to to record mostly because I couldn't leave her alone. Choose to little to be left alone for as long time as we were at the studio, and so. You know this was. She seemed like she liked it. When every week very very friendly and well loved by the People in the studio and Then one day she's changed and everybody would into the studio. She would need to bark at them. Growl, and I mean like. You know could've aggressive. What do you think a now? She's terrible strangers. What do you think and So. How old was she when this happened? Couple of months. So dollar more more like six or seven months. I think when she turned. The thing is dogs. Go through when adolescence that's apparently very similar to to human adolescence, and it's about that age. That's the only time I will say. The dogs are kind of jerks. That's the moment where they thing you want them to do and they start saying. What I didn't i. didn't hear you you want me to sell. So they maliciously go back after that and they become more trainable and susceptible, but they have that time of adolescent teenager hood. Wow! Sixty six to nine months is exactly the time that would happen. That's show interesting because you know what. When she was a puppy. Hearse. It was so good it was adorable. I said sit, and by God debt was on the floor. and down took a little bit longer, but not much. And now she's a little bit over a year and she'll do what you tell her. What she she definitely thinking it over i. little teenage behavior now. She's probably in a place where she could. You could train to do those things again you might be. She might need a little more incentive, but you kind of have to recreate it if you WanNa, do it now. No, we train every night. And what's funny, too? Is She what I trained her to do when she knows that use one of those little treat things that clipped on your belt. She sees that thing. And, she's like Oh. Yeah, so sit now where okay you want me to go down, but if we're outside I, don't have that thing. The likelihood is that she wants to what I asked her. because. It's not going to get a reward. You know the great. There was a psychologist in the twentieth century. Be Skinner, right? Who Yeah who? Pigeons. trick which is is actually very useful with training dogs, which is, he kept all his pigeons like third underfed. You basically didn't have them hungry all the time, and so then they would basically try to figure out anything. They could do to get food interesting, and so when you want to train a dog to do something that's important like come when called. It's easiest to train them to do that when they're little bit hungry. You. Know keep that in mind that that that that might be very helpful. Less! Now, limited as you one more thing, because I think it's so fascinating I. Bet you must have read about this. Because I think this. This broke within the last year or so talk to us about dog eyebrows. The eyebrows of the dog for someone of my favorite parts of the dog, so there was this research that showed that. Dogs who could raise their eyebrows? In those little sort of Puffy, it's where the eyebrows are. They don't look like human eyebrows, those little puffy parts inside and above the eyes. Were faster to be adopted out of a shelter than dogs who couldn't and in fact they have a muscle. In their eyebrows that that Wolf's do not have so they. They have developed a muscle in their eyebrows to basically just be appealing to humans. Did Not. Their eyebrows. It's so cute. Yes, we did that Saddam basically. always selecting like this one's a little cuter. I'm not sure why, but continuing to breathe that one and it turned out. That was the eyebrow one. You know Gosh I never. Heard that eyebrow, so we could choose like a random trait, right and just make it. A thing yes, you know that's the kind of crazy thing about reading is that we have kind of created random things and made them a thing like we have all these really flat face dogs. Now you know who have almost no knows at all like the pug. Yeah! That's because at some point. We were like you know what I really liked. Dogs whose faces are all smushed up like that and we started breeding more and more of them, and now we have dogs. WHO's they're never going to grow? A knows Basil's. Face, because we're all Winston Churchill fans and the to be like that. Let's bring things full circle right now and talk about talking speaking of of behaviors that we breed in. Is there anything Paula can do to make her dog less obsessed with tennis balls I say it's a retriever and it's always gonNa love the tennis balls. Yeah, no, that's true. It's like in fact. Probably the eyes of that dog are especially sensitive to little bouncy things along the horizon. That's the thing about dogs like that. Have retriever them as they. They actually have more cells in the middle of their I long horizon, so they're really really sensitive to the little squirrel running away the ball bouncing along resin. And, they that's not going to turn off and so basically they have cataracts and they can't see as well. Why don't we? Enjoy I enjoy throwing the tennis ball for her. We have automatic tennis ball shooter. Thing that I like playing with her, but I mean. My thing is I just can't stand that every single time. I come out of my bedroom. She's right underfoot like just now. We're GONNA throw the ball now is. Could we do it now? You said earlier that we're GONNA. Throw the ball. So I wouldn't mind a break from it sometimes. Sometimes, dogs, who were really good at retrieving also really good at other types of dogs sports if you actually wanted to do other types of things, with which is like agility, where they kind of go through tunnels, builder hurdles and It's actually these very great acrobatic sports, and it's just. This is the thing your dog knows how to do with you I feel it's sort of like very appealing like here's the thing we do together like. The Mall and you throw it and bring it back. We do that again. If there were other things, so it'd be nice to Paula is let your dog sniff the tree and throw the Damn Ball. Already suck it up Paula poundstone. No I like this idea about the agility thing. I think it would be fun to build like a thing in the back. Obstacle course. Yeah, I think that'd be great. Both things are cool. Yeah, I like that idea I did. And I have a video online about this train her to. Clean out and organize my linen closet. Activity. That's always a good activity. Yes, it's fantastic. Thank you, Dr Howard to making sure we don't bark up the wrong tree, and now we're GONNA. Take that information and run it through the old poundstone Nater Paula. Thank you an ING Lindsey Goodman House. Band Lindsey could if you could give me a little of that. Beautiful Flute Music. I'll tell you what I learned. Clearly I've been guilty of forcing my dogs to live in my hyun world with little understanding of their world. That ends now the next time so knocks on my front door. All three of us me and my two dogs are going to run to the door and jump up and down yelling. There's someone on the other side of the door. I'm sure that go to the window and see not go back to the door now. Go back to the window. The door. Window now. You're. Getting exercise on a boring old walk I'll just bring a chair out to the alley and open all the trash Kim leads. then. Maybe we'll stroll over to a tree and smell some profiles. Looks like a five year old Labrador tow. Who Enjoys Puzzles and smelling butts on this site? An older Chihuahua who enjoys trembling snarling and dressing up and only once today bigger dogs. Lou, this smells interesting a seven year old West Highland terrier who seeking approval and expressive eyebrows. And finally instead of bringing my dogs in when they bark on their right to the fence and Sake I. Live here. Get the fuck out of the Sally. Don't even thank about walking in this l. e. ever again. Was Great Paula. Her latest book is our dogs ourselves Dr Alexandra. Horowitz. Thank you so much for coming by then US my pleasure. Thanks great to have you here. Thank you very much. I want to check in with you sometime and tell you how my improve behaviors are. My pleasure thanks for having me. All right, we'll be back with more. Nobody listens to Paula poundstone after this. 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Tony Post a question on our facebook page for for the nobody's. Asking you know since we've done you know we will have done one hundred episodes and it was like a joke question, right? I have a copy of that question. Right here. If you want to hear it, it said nobody's. We are approaching one hundred episodes. Have you listened to all hundred episodes and if not why? So what I meant was that they would say like Oh. You know there was so much laundry to do, or you know traveling all over the world or you know got a Lotta Kit I thought they would be like. Studying seven languages, who has time for podcast? was what I was thinking of an didn't occur to me until after people started posting stuff on facebook that their their interpretation was 'cause it. I think that's fair and we did. Go ahead and ask them what they'd like for the next hundred shows as well. But we did get a Menagerie of different kinds of answers, both of them very very nice, but just a rita sampling of glitz. Bring to the MIC, our own Tony Anita Hall. Tony. Yeah. Tony Are you at your desk. I am. Love every year. If you stand up your, you'll be in your kitchen. Yeah, that's me yes. Yes. All right okay, so what are we? What are we have Tony? Okay the first one comes from I'm going to try these names I hope I. Don't butcher them. Joseph Could Akao. he wrote. Certainly we've been waiting since November of two thousand eighteen. Our cats be cat of the week, but the man who is on every show will not pick her. We did get her accounts. Don't pussy pillow, though so she has been canceled. Okay, so, this is a complaint more than anything. Right. Yeah, he threw in there, and by the way thanks for the purchase of the poundstone Pussy Pillar Joseph, but it does sound like the way he interpreted it was you know? Why aren't you? An and his answer was because my God. Damn cat never gets her. Name mentioned that was his. That was definitely the subjects in fact, I wouldn't even call that subtext. I would call a text. Whose right out and I I will say this to just quit Hausky. Just I read the cat of the week, but I am not the selector of the candidate week. The this election process for Canada Week is a lot more complicated than you'd think and. We're not going into that, but it's a complicated process. It's a big responsibility and I am not the selector of the lake like many institutes of higher learning. We're turning away from the SAT. Because have model, was helping out a certain kind of privilege cat. That's exactly right the Persians. And a couple of the cats of the week Apollo I hate to announce it, but I think we have to say. A couple of you might have photo shopped your cat doing activities that it doesn't really do. So. You know people have written to me over time and back when I used to work in theaters, where large groups gathered and I would say things I thought were funny, and then they would laugh. Sometimes those events. Sometimes it those events people would come up to and say. How do I get my cat to be out of the week and I would just be honest with them. I would say you know. It's a lot of responsibility for a cat. You sure are you sure your cat is ready? Yeah I mean. These stage, mother and stage fodder cat owners that think that there can handle anything that can get them into a little trouble when it comes to things like Canada Week. Yeah, exactly that one cat little Miss Sunshine. She was. She was good all right, right? What else we got twenty. I'm Michael currently wrote missed the first few because I was waiting for live from the poundstone institute to come back. WHO UK go wait a minute so Michael. What kind of. I WANNA. Be Gentle about this. Bonnie, please cover your object filled ears. Michael What didn't actually hear what Michael. Don't read. What what what bunny heard? What's for you in the Horse You wrote in on? because. She is a thing stuck. She has a monopoly piece stuck in her ear. God at the Iron and not the shoe. Well, it's ever since we did the episode with the guy. Who was the monopoly champion? Remember that? Episode Twelve or something? Do you remember he had that? He carried his monopoly piece in like a little jewelry box that he opened up. Yes and he had a piece that was painted on the top the same color as monopoly board. That's exactly right. And he wrote to US afterwards and said he couldn't find it. Oh Yeah. Buddy check coup body. Do you WanNa just? I think it's time to look in your ear. Turn your head sideways and Kinda pound. All right, let's. Let's get back to Michael though. So you're waiting for more episodes of our first podcast. Live about institute, and so chose not to listen to the actual podcast we were doing. Yeah Yeah. There are some sour grapes here. Well actually Michael Thank you very much for having enjoyed live from the poundstone institute. Man Adam Ajoy doing it as well but. It was really fun. It was. It was costly because there were excellent sound engineers. This is before we realized. Buying saying I. Don't hear it I. Don't hear it and so. We had. Just kept bringing in more and more expensive sound engineers. That's exactly right, and then Lo and behold. We find out years later. That Bonnie had an. Entire. An entire package of frozen corn in her ears. When you've gone to MPR. Have you ever gotten one of those like NPR buttons that you could pin on your jacket? Yeah. Yeah, totally yeah, well. Don't put them in your ears. I don't know why she has to be told all right Tony. What else? Let's keep hearing from our listeners? Cash Body roads I stopped episode eighty five minutes. A lot of jokes are just repetitive in not funny. Wow now I want to underscore got a lot of you. Wrote Really Nice things. Lot of Things but but cash body. Listening I think I. Both have a message for you. Know. Frankly, this is my favorite one so far just. No there's no. There's no subtlety just down and dirty. Just a lot of the jokes are just repetitive and not funny anymore. I gotTA. But I agree with you. I liked that I liked I like his honesty. Paulin no, you must be wondering this, too. Is that you stopped listening fifteen episodes ago? What the fuck are you doing on our facebook page answering? That is where she's listening. Because the jokes were headed him, but apparently the facebook pages just. Fresh. Every day. She's finding things on the facebook page that she never even conceived of. Every single day afresh array of humor that one yeah jokes are just repetitive and not funny anymore and let me just point out. My favorite part is that she did the thing with the colon and the. Parentheses. Fed Bay make to make a sad faced right, not funny anymore. Wow Which? The unkindest cut now. I haven't seen the Post I. Don't know if there's a man or woman, but wow hot teff. Alex a woman. A woman. Yeah, it's definitely woman. Okay Yeah, because I demand, do those goofy colon, and then the parentheses face. No? We don't because that would be not very masculine. Men Don't have that. Feeling for men, it would be an angry face God deva juncture, repetitive and not funny anymore. Guy's. Got More I'm loving this this help us marshals milestone. Oh. Andrea Apple wrote your, but because you asked I'll be honest that have not so the. To the. Best career corner because it's informative in funny, it would be cool. Fallen Adam reveal documentary film, so we could potentially learn something new. Wow. Okay. Thank, you so much for your feedback again. We Weren asking for this is we didn't post a? How am I driving sticker on our bumper? Weren't asked me for. My fault though because I like. Ice when I saw what was coming in I realized how like wrong? My interpretation was of the words that I like I. Really Thought People GonNa, write us like funny jokes about what they were busy with you know. People, did a lot of. People would write like a memorizing every every lyric to all the Beatles. Songs just don't have time, but instead you know I don't really like the move. Now! We have we did get a couple of listeners that said what they wanted from the next hundred episodes was more movie reviews. Yeah but Andrew didn't say that Andrea hopes fondest hope. Is that we never? We never do another goddamn movie review unless. Unless it's a documentary inter I just have to point out one thing when we're trying to choose a movie to review in order to tell people. The idea is that we're tell you whether you to watch another movie. And so we review a movie. That's somehow related perhaps. But it's a read to hang it on, but yes, and no, it's great, but in order to in order to do that. It's helpful if people are a little bit smiliar with the film that you're reviewing. You know who has like a long list of beloved documentaries. You know. Oh I have to I. I'm really enjoying this party, but I have to leave early because Adamant Paula are reviewing showa tonight. And, that should be so much fun. Yeah, yeah, I! I don't think they were reviewing story, which let people know what it was like to have lupus and Nazi Germany. Exactly yeah that and then we could potentially learn about that while having a laugh. I. I think what you're gonNA find Andrea Hope. Is that a lot of documentaries? Don't lend themselves to big laughs. Through yeah, just something I've noticed. Turning the give us another one. This is Tom wait. I have to say one more thing to Andrea Rope Okay Andrew Hope. Sit Back. The other thing is we've done like four. Or Five. I don't how many you guys. Five movie reviews out of a hundred. So are you telling me you watched all ninety five other shows and it was just those no I think that you haven't been watching and that you're trying to lay blame God. DAMN TRUMP! Is it Obama? That made you not watch the. She's blaming Obama for her own. Lay blamed for not watching. Okay, go ahead Tony. Eleven, let's continue lambasting our listener base. Keep Guard, Tony. Julianne gained wrote I've listened to them all except for French trump press conferences I really don't like French from am I allowed to say that in this comment stream i? Don't want to get in trouble. All like the other guy did. Jillian you can say whatever fucking thing you WANNA say! Yeah, Julianne, but honestly you. You observed that somebody took. TOOK EXCEPTION TO FRENCH TRUMP It was my fault. Phrasing the question that way, but you know we did say. Have you listened to all one hundred episodes? And frankly the French trump press conferences, although encouraged people to listen to them, because they can be funny to other people other than Julianne Mangan But we don't count them in hundred episodes Gillian so. The truth is Julianne. You didn't even need to bring them up. So Paul. Juliana heard someone else criticizing French trump and getting kind of excoriated by you for it and yet she chose to sign in. And do this again. Yet what she's a risk taker. She. What is that a park course thing they do in, Israel she started that. The parsing of France says as I think we're started, but I'm sure they do it in Israel as well. Yeah. Yeah, she does, she does that. Jumping off buildings and doing flips and shit. she started to do I mean she decided to take on French trump and park orders French so I. Guess that's Apropos, but she didn't have to. Not all mentioned the French trump stuff. You! To say, you did not lack French traveled. Bearded Defense? Different Star, busy DISEA- FRENCH SEAN press comb. Foul rose is not even powered never listens to pella per stirred is a separate is a separate mini podcast, so the question was even about Zach. Dan. That's right and. French trump actually makes me very Point here because we have numbered these episodes. We're at number one hundred, but that's not counting. Trump's so. Julianne, actually went above and beyond the call of duty here. To crap trump. Jillian that's like saying. which which rocky which rockies your favorite rocky movie and saying well, I hated Ali movie. Right exactly. Do you. What's your favorite rocky movie? Well rhinestone sucked. Julianne? Thank you Joan and I. Thank you to all the nobody's for writing an and I deserve whatever I got there. I really my fault for raising the question that way Adam. Answer the phone. What really? One hundred caller. Okay I. of course we're still doing that. Hundred two hundred caller contest. Abdelnour answered the phone. Hello. Hello. Adam. This is Nan Mumford from Hudson main. Matheny. From questioned menu asked if we listen to all hundred shows. I'm calling his. Thanks thanks for calling. It's my pleasure I. I get and listen to all one hundred sharks. Okay then we'll leave it at that. You don't have to tell us why. I wish betsy. Okay! Well now. I'm curious because that's just who I am. Nan Mumford from Maine. What were you busy doing? Here and Man Adam half the year scraping off. The ice for windshields, and have the we spent pulling our galoshes and other belongings out of the mud. You step body a house one day in the spring, and you sink right down in the mud. Only the strongest toes can hold galoshes on. A lot of the folks. Our toes cramp up and we lose our divorces. Fortunately the good people of Man will rally around and help you retrieve your galoshes, so we make a human chain, and the whole community rose, but of course once you get your own galoshes back. You want to help the others get. There is a niche. And the trucks. What cats. Then why are you calling then? 'cause you asked. All right I got to. Go! visit truck stuck in the mud. Right outside of my house. Well that was interesting. Manson mom another call this quick. Okay Hello Hello. Just warning. You don't listen to this shit. For the sake of argument, I think today it is. Who is this calling? Scorcher. Ask. No I'm not currently wearing masks Denison. Yes, I do wear a mask. Shit, I Wear Nellie. Ever been hit. Them. Never you. Kicked by a horse. Didn't think he had a tell you what? A shopping mother fucking elk. One killed him dead. Indicate run the head but teeth. A mask on kill. Don't be so. Don't you wear a mask for safety me Nelly. I tell you one. Make packers wearing their. Masks, the mate should be labeled in the grocery backed by a bunch of mask wear Nellis. NEW NASA, where packed meet a shoot. Me! I'm not listening to Shit I'll tell you what. Would Dennis captive variety. She's got the right idea lot of your jokes. Repetitive, not funny anymore you know what I wanna serve one thing you. You're Goddamn. Colin! What. Good well if you don't say which parentheses. Litter. Frowning at me Dennis. Nick. Well. Thank you. This I probably the yeah. Well you. GotTa go. I don't have time for this. Okay well, clearly you don't. If anybody cares. I believe Dennis are seventy fifth caller in our. Data, one! Game I'm just GONNA. Because can cost me. Sometimes, that's why active calls me. Listener has kiss Ronnie. You're talking about. Deaf and she says up and listen to. Nobody Listens Impala poundstone. G said you knew why nobody listens because it's repetitive of born a lot of jobs. You're funny. That's why. I would I would listen to his ship. With a FARC in horse off to my head, wooden, listening shit I gotta go. Listen Anyway but thanks for calling. Going to take that as a smile, okay well. Known. You can't even read a room. It was a colon and a frown and parental Sir. Dennis. That's southern. Polite, right there. Tony Zach include our one hundredth episode segment. Right, Well. Tony Bonnie Paula Landreau. All the nobody's out there. Happy one hundred. I've been here as Paula likes to point out every week. You know in honor of our hundred episode. Because so much to me. You've already spelled out exactly what it means to you, but go ahead I have prepared. A simple simple dialogue because Adam fortunately, what some of our listeners actually enjoy the show I would say most of them. Yes, as we've acknowledged many times in the course of our first one hundred episodes, we love those nobody's and we desperately want to continue to make. Nobody listens to Pala poundstone. To help get them through the choppy waters ahead in order to keep making our show, though we have to continue to increase the number of people who listen and the best way to do that is for each listener to share with their friends, family and coworkers that they enjoy listening to. Nobody listens to Paula poundstone the problem Adam. Yes, as it is it that can be an awkward conversation. This is wonderful to have this back for a special hundred episode reappearance. So I have written some simple simple dialogue to help listeners. Break that trail. Try this. 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97 - Preseason Testing 2020

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97 - Preseason Testing 2020

"Hello everybody and welcome to shift one podcast about speedy race cars. I am drew scanlon. Joining me Danny. Dwyer how are you? Danny I'm doing great drew. I have already watched all of Dr Survive Season. Two and looking forward to season three nice coming up soon. Acne is also with us. How are you rub not bad? I'm savoring drive to survive but that Haas episode And I know G let's not don't bring it's it's it's it's great it's brilliant. It's better than last year. Is the whole thing wonderful? A great time worldwide. Wonderful time to be alive or dying injuries case Yes as you may be able to tell I have a cold and am super second gross. So I'm probably not GonNa talk very much this episode. So what you wanted to take it away Danny Juries handed the baton to me this week because he's not feeling great. I will say that I was I was feeling all right this morning. But since I've been editing in studio for a couple of hours and I GOTTA. I'd never get headaches. And it just got a headache and now. I've been coughing a bit so Perhaps by the end of the podcast that'll be the baton to rob and it'll be a solo effort listen to the rest of the podcast To find out yeah. This is effectively the first episode of the two thousand twenty season for us here shift F. One our preseason primary was up. Obviously we've done a bunch for patrons but this is where if you'll excuse the PUN. The rubber hits the road for formula. One at testing is over. Now we've had Was it six days total. I think of Of Testing at circuit at Barcelona and Catalonia Spain. Where we we will be returning midway through the season if the corona virus doesn't mess with that we'll talk about that later but Yeah we're we're basically here today to talk about sort of the top points from testing over that two week period ahead teams fared where they sort of look and we're also going to cover up a bunch of the news that has happened am since Since like sort of around the testing window 'em either in relation to testing itself for some other stuff and to keep your eye on as we enter the twenty twenty season and look forward to Melbourne Ab to get the show on the road. Rob Do you mind giving us a little bit of a sort of a an over under on what exactly testing is for for the uninitiated. Yeah so tessie. I don't know how it was Served before I started watching. Remember the early days of my Phantom. I don't remember the preseason test being quite as big a deal but I think it's become a much larger deal as like more and more restrictions have kept coming in on testing. Basically TESTING IS F. One has famously. Failed at cost. Containment measures pretty much across the board and four. They're sends F one testing. Pays the price so f one has a really restrictive testing regime In the past this is some Info drew drew. Put Together For this episode but drew is You know obviously is obviously wounded But you know we used to have eight testing days This season we are down to six This is not without controversy. I think is clear Williams like during the During the during the test sessions was saying that this is not enough time to sufficiently test these cars which is a bit rich because last year they only had sex. Yeah how many days of the Williams actually run to like midland is two of them. Yes it would have been six of the ace actually only turned up or I think the but I think that kind of points to it as well is some of these teams can do a lot without ever hitting a track other teams lottery struggling outfits when you are trying to pin down reliability when you got a lot of performance issues to to trouble shoot. You desperately need testing time. And I think the restrictions on testing have been one way that F one's kind of hierarchy of the power rankings kind of baked in But as a result it puts a lot of pressure on the six tests days to get a lot of data out of the car Every single lap teams are looking for looking some aspect of performance. Drivers are going out there. They're trying to do fast. Lap Sometimes Other Times they are just basically pushing the car to its limits. And just to see. Where is it unreliable Where do they start to have problems? Crop House the car wear as it spends time on the track Sometimes you will see during testing. These cars will be carrying a looks like a chain link fence or like an old radar array almost And that is to measure airflow You also sometimes see the car's covered in Like a streaky Neon highlighter effect. Yes as drive around or something right. Yeah and that is That's a flow viz and again that's a that is a way to get that. That is a way to basically have the era dynamic behavior of the car literally painted onto the services The flow of is is sort of dragged streaked around as air passes over the car and based on those patterns engineers can discern a lot from a lot about how the car performed aerodynamically that you really just can't get in a wind tunnel. A wind tunnel tests tests. You know largely air moving in a straight line over the car but out on the track you obviously have cross breezes you have cars turning So it's really important to see that sort of data as well Teams run one driver at a time. the other is watching and listening to the radio You also have testing is also paternity for teams to tat like basically do Dress Rehearsal pitstops Which the mechanics are always sort of doing Pit Stop Training Back it back at H. Q. But testing allows for a more serious Rehearsals of that stuff And then you. Sometimes you'll have teams intentionally Short the fuel in the car and that is to see how that's that's basically see like. How far can this CAR GATT on a zero fuel situation because remember these are teams that do basically want to finish a race with a with a splash of fuel left in the tank and anything more than that is just extra weight that they WANNA rid of? Yeah for sure I. It's a big part of I. Guess the the the whole idea of testing being that. It's not really heats. It's more the you're trying to test at the best and worst of the car and get as much data as as possible. But that doesn't mean that we're not also looking at the the the times and taking a look at 'em those times that the teams have gone out and tried to set hot laps on on some of the softer tyres. There's a lot of variability in this obviously In terms of what the pace is like different tires and the amount of fuel. That's the card anyone second at the Jerusalem. Oh you're saying it's Two point three five seconds per ten kilograms Barcelona's often cold this time of day or this actually was an unseasonably warm and week for pre season testing for winter testing 'em it was also been windy as well For the last couple of days especially the last day which was probably just as well that they don't quite love their air worker earlier in the in the allotment. So looking at these times. You can't retail altogether at where everyone is but it's it's painting a sort of a broad picture and looking at the the the top ten here it kind of feels in line with With with some of the stuff we've been hearing about. Actually I'm not sure he's Williams owner Williams. Are there okay? Well maybe it's particularly in line with the top spot or going from I'm going to basically go down the list here The fastest laps We saw for each team In the order in which they were fastest in relation to the other teams of course Mercedes F facets of the bunch on the c five tire on the third day of testing val towboat sitting in the seats Got A one fifteen point seven three two max for stopping next the red. We'll get into the teams in a in a hot minute as well but the rebel looking pretty mighty fast on the final day. Max I think it was. Maybe his like Fourth last lap of the entire am six day test. He managed to pull off a one sixteen to On the C. Four which is impressive in its own reis They did a lot of running on the C. Four and C. Two in the couple of days at Donnie Ricardo at posted his fastest time ever in preseason testing on the C five win sixteen to seven Just two tenths slower than the Red Bull Ferrari were next Charlotte Clare Or Charles Leclerc called himself once again drive to survive and complicating things further on the final day on the C. Five one. Sixteen three six Sergio Perez in the very fast. Pink Mercedes The racing point on day six in the sith three hosted a one sixteen. Six six caught my attention. Yeah that is an extremely good time on C. Three now obviously probably have to make allowances for the fact that some of the guys in front of them are sandbagging It's we'll get into this with like Ferrari like Ferrari as slow as they seem Is Mercedes holding back on pace? Nevertheless like Peres doing that on the C. Three on the C. Three compound Given that harder tyres you're basically surrendering a what. Is it like about roughly a little over second lap thereabouts For him to turn in that kind of time. does suggest that the racing point may have some actual pace in it. Yeah Mighty Raid that was one of the. There's a number of things we'll get into the teams really sort of peak people's interest and that's certainly one of them Carlos Sainz in the McLaren basics on C. Four again when Sixteen Point Ace Georgie? Russell managed to get his Williams around in one sixteen point eight as well appointed seven on day six Using the C five. And then we'd Alpha Tories Danica Caveat on the final day on the C. Four point one six nine Robert Kabila and the Alpha Mayor of course being the Tester For Alpha this year Alfa Romeo. I guess I have to actually delineate. Which now on the fourth day running the C. Five you gotta a one. Sixteen point nine way off. The pace am nine. Four and way off the pace Was the Haas of Roman grow? John has probably had the most difficult of the teams in preseason testing in terms of speed on in terms of laps actually on day six on the C. Four. He got a one seventeen point zero. Three seven M reliability as as probably. We shouldn't be very surprised has been pretty good. We're kind of at the end of the life of these cars. New regulations coming in two thousand twenty one as we talked about in the pre season primer. The teams have really dialed in. Not just the speed of these cars and managed to get them back to where they were before the the the sort of the latest change and but also the reliability is far far better which is great news for Every team not the least Folks like Williams who really struggled at Mercedes of course is to be expected manage to edge the most laps of nine hundred and three followed by Ferrari at eight hundred forty four McLaren at eight hundred four racing point. Seventy two red bull just shy of them with seven. Eighty Alfred Tori seven seventy Renault. Seven four three William Seven three seven Alfa Romeo seven three five then Haas with six hundred forty nine bus. You know all things being equal. That's not a bad showing either but It's probably time. We dove into some of the specifics. Because it's been a very interesting preseason test at maybe maybe the least surprising who's on top which drew will talk about it but It was fun to see. I don't know like a like an aeroplane control be used one car. I guess sort of fitting in a way. Yes so I think this is also the first year that they have televised every testing session. And this is something that We may not have seen before the Australian Grand Prix. If not that occurrence right so Mercedes. Has this weird thing called dual axis steering? Where they can. Actually the drivers can push and pull their steering wheels in and out and in addition to turning them left and right and what that does is changed the toe angle of the front of the car. So if you imagine like looking down at your toes as you're standing usually they're parallel right. Your feeder pointed straight forward. But if you move both your toes away from your body your feet are pointed out if you move toes in their you know a pigeon toed and La like if you've ever learned to Ski Pizza French fries and so this has a few Mercedes. Says the effect will be small person. Yeah of course they're saying that and also I guess we don't really know because they haven't even had a chance to really try this on track very much so That's what texting is all about. But the thinking goes that you want an outward toe in corners because the inside tire is turning tighter corner than the outside tire. So if you're just locked unparallel tires and you're turning one of those is going to be Scuffing along the ground right But if you if they're turned at different rates you get a much better You know even patch of grip Not as much scuffing. So but you also want your tires to be parallel on the streets going straight forward unless however you want to heat or cool different parts of your tires so if you change the toe while you're going straight you'll essentially be dragging the inside or the outside of the tire along the ground which we eat it up which sometimes what you want right like we see cars weeding back and forth under safety car sometimes to to get their tires temperature chain bearish also has a really good explanation video for Das which we will link in the show notes and of course as soon as I really enjoyed seeing this happen in real time because I didn't watch testing live of course but like there were a fun little clips floating around of like all of the Renault engineers crowded around the TV screen. Looking like what is that. What are they doing like? This is the first time anyone has ever seen this. And it wasn't until you know the broadcast crew is like. Let's take a look at this clip that we found of Lewis Hamilton pulling his real in and out but everyone was a little taken aback by like. Is this going to me. Legal and I'm not going to quote any regulations here because I don't know them but apparently it is for the twenty twenty regulations rice But is not for the twenty run regulations and that's not I think It can seem like the FAA like instantly. Change their rules for twenty twenty one after this happened but in fact that rule was in there before this came out however Mercedes says that the DA is not news to the FAA. It's something that they've been talking with them for some time about So I could see them talking with them like hey we just want to make sure this is this rules in place in the FAA saying okay. Yes but we're GONNA make it illegal for twenty twenty one Ferrari also came out for our he said. Oh Yeah we were We were thinking of doing that as well but decided against it. Yeah no time so one of the thing. I will say that I saw some speculation about was that while the FIFA appears to have signed off on it. There is a there's room for a challenger Kinda depends on whether or not teams really. WanNa push this That it may still be challengeable under park firm because the park fair may rules are pretty specific about adjusting the suspension after the car enters park firm. Oh Yeah Right. But is the Toe Angle classified as suspension. I think that is the gray area. That is so the thing is like in general. Like for instance. Okay this is unscientific but like you're playing a racing game and usually the way. It divides car set up in different categories. Right you go into toe. Toe Angle has always been like in the suspension category said it along with Sway bars if your cars have those you tend to like in general if you look at Exhibit Three Colin McRae rally. Yeah but in terms of the Toe Angle. This seems like it's been pretty. Generally regarded as part of setting up these suspension of the car So grey enough that if anyone if anyone somebody could make that argument. I suspect somebody could The question is whether they will like the Mercedes are like five seconds faster than everyone in Melbourne. You know they will. Yeah Yeah. Other teams have estimated that they wanted to try and replicate. Das that it would take six months or so to do so it would be you know not an easy thing to integrate into their cars The Mercedes team principal. Toto Wolff is big on not being complacent Being humble and not taking anything for granted I think is a reflection of this continuing to innovate Even though they have won the past six driver's and constructor's championships in a row. So I expect Mercedes to be every bit as competitive this year and it would also that is supported by the fact that they do have the fastest lap time in the most laps overall there were few gremlins and testing like electrical and oil pressures is oil pressure issues but Mercedes' is generally very reliable. So I don't personally put a lot of stock Or worry in that But yeah that's that's Mercedes. So Ferrari yeah part of them they lost Ford and Lemond in one thousand nine sixty six. I believe I've recently watched two movies about them and recorded to podcasts. And that's how America gained its independence from the totalitarian. Enzo Ferrari yeah. So Ferrari came into the season having had another really disappointing campaign last year Last year was obviously the year that it was really expected. They were going to bring the fight to Mercedes because arguably back in two thousand eighteen they had a pretty reasonable chance at nabbing championship and last year. Ferrari looked really dominant in testing. And there's a lot of questions to why that pace all went away like was Mercedes. Sandbagging was also as you alluded to earlier issues. With the unique time of year in temperature profile of winter testing as opposed to wear those early races were actually run Who knows but FRY came into this into this testing Season with the interesting goal of not chasing performance and Bananas Public Statements. On this. Were very much like you know to. To the tune of last year we were really chasing performance pretty much throughout testing and we ended up with a car. That wasn't competitive This time we're going to be evaluating for other things consistency etc The other thing. That Ferrari has emphasized with their twenty twenty Twenty twenty model is that it is an Arrow. I designed last year. Mercedes Ferrari basically staked everything on the power unit lifting them to victory and they never really did. They never really did catch up to Mercedes performance in coroner's particularly slow corners. And you could see that playing out on the track where if the Ferrari was within striking distance in a straight line. Mercedes disadvantaged but the Ferrari could rarely get into that sort of Attack Range and stay there so I really did build a car for aerodynamic performance and they were pretty upfront about having traded away some speed and that appears to be reflected in the kinds of times they were posting throughout Through throughout testing this year If you look at what vessels Fast time was this year he set a one sixteen point eight on the on the CPI the softest higher But in that session like immediately after he did that he brought out a red flag because he went off the track So there are the Ferraris. We're not setting amazing times Throughout this throughout the Wonder testing and it looked like they had shed more than a little speed Trying to try and improve the Arrow and also the drivers will. That'll least didn't sound too happy about the actual airport formats of the car He was he was complaining about understeer Apparently there issues with the with the car having drag and everything about Ferrari unless this is again some masterful like you know bluff. The thing that's worrying is when you come into the season saying this year we we really did put era. I and We're we're served crafting last year's mistake but that shouldn't necessarily come with a major trade off for speed. The you know what I mean like this is the thing is teams can always trade off. Speed like downforce and top speed. That's always a bargain. You can make the way you make actual gains. Is You know you get the You? Get the improved engine and you find a better aerodynamic solution it sounds like what? Ferrari have kind of ended up. Doing here is just adding more like aerodynamic grip to what they already had available at the cost of maybe slowing down the car and maybe change as handling profile in some ways that were not terribly productive so it was a concerning It was it was a concerning tasked. I would say for Ferrari And in terms of looking like they're heavy battling championship day. Look pretty well a rear of Mercedes and even Red Bull To to be to be quite honest And TAT insult injury. There was some talk probably over hyped That they are starting to view racing point as a potential threat Which is not we're for. I want to be yeah. It's interesting I think we kind of make our way through these teams. We're GONNA get the the the narrative of well Mercedes. Notwithstanding and perhaps Williams there does seem to be as sort of a a contraction of a lot of the mid pack and also question marks over. Who is going to enter this sort of fight for second third fourth Which could be quite dynamic this year at red bull looking at the moment like second place in terms of pace in terms of consistency and they had a pretty great winter testing. They had a little bit of difficulty on an ultimate day with their rear suspension but overall the car performing without spending a lot of time and working on various tire compounds and trying to dial those in the one question mark over the red bull seems to be. It's issue handling speed. We had both for stopping and Albion. Losing the rare. A top speed 'em and it's it's it's something that I played down interviews after the fact Bush Sort of a consistent issue that they seem to have especially when they're posting fast times and it wasn't until the final day that Max Ridi went for a couple of goes on the The C. Four. I think it was that he set the. Yeah the second fastest time of one sixteen to six nine and they actually spend most of their time. driving around on the sea too so they did five hundred eighty three of their seven hundred eighty laps on that seat too. So you know it's you can read the tea leaves and lots of different ways with this stuff but we could be looking at a car. That's very much focusing on consistently consistency over long stretches during the race but perhaps an issue for qualification. If their top speed is is is rubbing up against whatever problems they're having with with the grip and it seemed to be you know we. We see a lot from red role in terms of they changing the car over the first couple of races. So maybe we'll have a bit more You know insight into if that an issue for them and qualification or it whether or not these sort of scoreless that they're having is something that they'll they'll died in Once we're into the first couple of races but overall they seem pretty consistent and not up to pace with the Mercedes but definitely you know beating Ferrari looking like they have some space between them and McLaren And maybe some of the other Cars we mentioned before we've got into an in a second but yeah It looks pretty much. They seem pretty satisfied with what? How at testing went and I have the next team as well which is McLaren who also had a fantastic test this year as well chasing down fourth-place again but now sort of maybe looking at at the top three as well. There was an element of you know. We talked last year a lot. I remember about the sandbagging issue. Whether Mercedes Ressam bugging you know. Rob Bringing up the very good question of whether this year. We're seeing Ferrari not focusing on top. Hasten maybe they'll surprise us when they hit Melbourne and you could say the same McLaren. They seemed very happy on lots of tires. They put in loads of laps. But you've also got the feeling that perhaps and they were knocked showing off their their top speed. They did lots and lots of laps in the hard tyres. Similar to Red Bull am dialing in that sort of long distance Elements which is just you know part and parcel for for winter testing. I guess and plenty of laps and then good times on the last day as well at the question for them. I guess is who they're fighting with next year which I think is the the the thing that a lot of these teams are sort of trying to figure out where they land. There's big question marks over Racing point of course there's also question marks over off Atari Which Robs GonNa talk about in a second and then perhaps the biggest question mark at the moment is is kind of Reynaud like are they in the GOP. Are they in Matt? Fight at the top and or are they slipping down a little bit more? Donnie obviously did his fastest lap ever in preseason testing but I'm interested to hear more drew. Where where do you think Reynouard? Yea I it seems like Reynolds a team. That no one really knows how to nail down in terms of testing some people put it Pretty high in the mid packs people put a pretty low but I think the kind of the the biggest thing that stood out to me. Something that will buxton pointed out in his his paddock pass. I think it goes where he basically just walks around as a breakdown of this the session after every He does it for testing. He does it for like before each race weekend. I think we we also neglected to mention in preseason Primer F. One's youtube channel. Does a really good job showing some of the stuff? That's outside of the regular racing broadcast. Yeah but the. The rental cars apparently the product of an old design team. That is no longer with Reynaud the whole team. I guess because they they've brought in a guy named Pat Fry who helped turn around McLaren and so he is now working At Reynaud although yeah unsure how much he actually had to do with this car there were some issues during testing for rental required. A Down Day three Reliability has never really been reynolds. Strong suit They also did the fourth fewest laps as they did point out. They only used one engine and McLaren which also use a rental engine also on the east one engine so no no engine replacement that'd be done Thing Buxton said was the best indicator usually intesting is body language. Because you know you can look at the time but not really representative and you can listen to the words of a driver or a team. That's not really representative because everyone wants to be positive and Ricardo seemed a little reserved. I didn't I didn't see a lot from Esteban. Okon their their new driver there although he did get a a good chunk of track time his first in a in that Reynaud So yeah there's kind of a question mark regardless said. We know we've still got some work to do but generally I think they kind of know where that work needs to happen. I also I'm looking forward to seeing with their with their car actually looks like they're they're running an all black testing livery for this. I imagine it'll be the same. Black with yellow trim come Melbourne but Yeah next team. We've got here is Alpha Tori Alpha. Towery yeah I think I think you're I want you to say Alpha towery but I don't. I don't know that we're going to be able to do that. Their drivers Daniel Caveat and peer ghastly both kind of saying that the car feels good. But they're still dialing in that sweet spot feel like they've made progress from last year and the Honda engine has seen a few improvements in those seem to be working as well. I think generally it seems really solid ghastly. Says we have a bit more coming and as pointed out. He backed off on one of his fastest laps. Yeah I don't know if we define sandbagging but that's what that is that is hiding your true pace to confuse your enemies. So Red Bull looks good. And if that's coming from the Honda engine and then it could turn out well for Alpha Tories as well. So who had a good testing Session this this time. Round was Racing point the former force in the team. we'll talk a little bit about this on. The preseason primer But racing point are really Lawrence. Strolls team at this point And they are headed for a marriage with Aston Martin and will probably be converted to something like a works team You know for for next season They're also much more flush with cash than they were as part of the business dealings around Lawrence Stroll and sort of clearing out the wreckage of the end of the VGA Ellie era This cargo is interesting and a little bit controversial when they showed up to Testing they showed up with basically last year's Mercedes W ten. They took the aerodynamic configuration of the Mercedes and effectively cloned it and this is something you just don't see that often autism a little bit. I find it odd that you don't see it more often Because it does seem like it would be an easy thing to steal from year to year is just like consumed the other person's advantage By taking as much as you can from their design as viable but of course the reason a lot of teams couldn't do that one to one is because most teams running different engines different gearboxes and have different configurations racing. Point runs a Mercedes engine and so they were able to create a near of last year's championship. Winning Mercedes and technical director. Andrew Green Sorta defended the move and explain that this way. We had a car that was running around seventh in the championship. And we've got one more year of these regulations and the development that we're seeing with the high rate car just wasn't going to deliver so is worth taking a risk That risk being taking the sort of taking the design of the Mercedes. This is interesting because this was one of the major controversies around Haas when they joined f. one that they had done something very similar They affectively bought as many as they possibly could have off of Ferrari. And that's what looked to a lot of people like a sort of Alternate Ferrari team And this is done for a couple of reasons like this is considered controversial for a couple reasons. One is at one even though this clue been up in viable for quite some time. F One is still an engineering competition. There's still a little bit of presumption of Presumption that everyone should be at least trying to win the engineering battles much as trying to win the racing battle on the track and There are regulations around one as to what parts of the CAR You're allowed to sell two of teams led by Versus what has to be bespoke Nevertheless it There were limits to this as one of their one of their engineers explained anything to do with. The chassis is kept in house because that is something that can't really buy off of Mercedes really make sense to So suspension systems chassis wishbones. That's all the chassis author in through is a racing point component. The mechanical stuff is Kind of what? They're what they're building around but the the the air is is Mercedes And and to be clear it is illegal in the rules for Mercedes to directly. Give their data to racing point and share it like that So the way I heard it explained was racing. Point basically just took a lot of photos of Sadi's twenty nineteen car and basically recreated in autocad or whatever they use yeah so this is rubbed some of the teams of the wrong way. But I think it's probably. This is probably the direction we're seeing one going Christian horner basically a you know through his hands up and said he'd never problem with it because Obviously the the backmarker teams are not going to be viable Unless they start getting to shortcut to more viable designs It's not fun for one when somebody's basically driven themselves into an engineering cul de sac As we saw happen with Williams the result is a car that Sergio Perez has said is probably the best car that he's driven in his career and they posted generally respectable times We talked about a little bit. You know toward the beginning of the show Peres setting that One sixteen point six on the C. Threes that is kind of a shot across the bows Probably some people in front of him were sandbagging but like could they all have been sandbagging than him. Running out there. That may event about a second a lap slower And he was. He was in the second of fat like the fastest time We we saw this This testing so that car looks pretty competitive Lent Straw did not do quite as well but like some some set some decent times but it does look like if Ferrari hasn't kept some pace In their pocket racing point might actually be in a position to start battling for you know P. Five P. Six During races and that is very exciting for us and very scary. If you are Ferrari speaking of scary situations find it exciting but I I suppose if I were Alfa Romeo. It might be scary. The fastest time in an Alpha male set during this testing. Yeah was set by Robert Kubica Yeah it was I mean yeah the watch continues. Gentlemen and I. I say that kind of unjust but also Tony not season. That's that's yeah I don't get it. Yes jeevan artsy like you can go through. We've been sort of a bit reductive generally been using the Timesheets for all of testing sort of just takes the best times from throughout the Throughout all of the testing sessions. But here's the problem. Giovanni never really had a like particularly impressive day You know you you start looking you start looking. Through The Times. He's routinely down in the You know eighteens for his fastest These are not the Times that he's supposed to be setting And Kubisova looked pretty competitive. Alfa Romeo and I do kind of wonder like I don't know if the deal is contractually. I don't know what options are available to them on on the record was set is Robert Kuby says at Alpha male in large part to help them improve specifically their simulation capacity. No he says they basically didn't have much right right there They have a fair amount of new infrastructure. But the thing they're missing is an actual Like engineering grade racing simulator. Like I saw a headline that said it'll take them eighteen months to build right. Yeah and listen to this a little bit. It kind of looks like so at the like at the quickest and dirtiest version of once. You have like the place the console game like bef one thousand nine hundred twenty eight one hundred twenty Not a bad model but again like it doesn't know much specific about any of the cars and it is using track layouts and try and like an approximate modeling of like the racing surface and such but what that series hasn't done is do what they do. I racing which kind of your next step up which is like laser. Scans of the racing surface Like pretty much like one to one fidelity Between what the feel of the course is and how it's laid out and what you see in the simulation Famously remember last year it was Kubisova. Who kind of beached it in that Kink at Baku and the explanation that serve came out has been the sims that Williams was running. The kink was slightly like misaligned from reality if memory serves and he took an angle that worked in the SIMS and didn't quite work and in that part of the course there's no margin for error but what Alfa Romeo is needing is something that has sort of hyper fidelity simulation of the tracks and that's not too hard to hard to get but also live aerodynamic modeling of what their car design is and have that model in the race track. That's that is kind of your gold standard. And that is what they're trying to build towards. Because then the changes. You are proposing in the car design can be modeled in that simulation and you will be able to approximate how they will feel to the drivers As compared to what you already know car feels like and it should all behave roughly correctly. And that's what they really need to be bringing along and supposedly that's what Kubis is there to do is help them get this feel for the car. The problem is and Tony G of Nazi does not appear to have any kind of feel for that car. And like if you were to look at last year even like like look at the standings for last year he came seventeenth right largely. Because what happened in Brazil. You got fifth place in a crazy situation. Where a bunch of Marcus? Gupta points? And he managed to get past grown. But he like grow Jonah Magnusson had abide year. Like kidding. Gosh three times as many points as you have a Nazi consistently underperformed am I? I know it was like I guess I season. I seasons on you right. So you're like okay but like unique on the top ten three other times and it was ten th and he came ninth in Monza so I don't yeah I I wonder if we'll see like Kabila. Is THERE ANYTHING STOPPING? Bits GETTING IN DURING CERTAIN RACES. Or anything stop like. I wonder if there's something contract wise. It'll protect Jovanotti. Like I don't know I think. In general these guys have clauses contract protecting them from Shit like this. I'm not sure G. of Nazis position does right light. You know this this protected from this if you're a red bull junior driver So I think I think he like my my feeling is that he may be vulnerable. Unless there's something else that he's bringing to the table You know maybe there's some sort of You know pay situation behind him. But I don't call having kids published oil money a Polish Energy drinks that. Yeah Ben Awhile. It's been awhile since we've had a good energy drink scandal in F one. Why not do it around Kuwait to watch but I think it is like concerning to me that the best the Alpha male looked was with Kubisova behind the wheel now You know key Cuny's an all pro You expect him to do well but even he didn't show that kind of pace exactly so I am very curious what that car looks like Coming out of this And and what sort of the season for them. Yeah there was a good interview On Wills Truck Walk saying the interviewed one of the engineers. I think it was And they seemed very Pleased with how the car is doing so it could be a quick one. That people are kind of WE'RE NOT. We're not seeing everything added car. Yeah interesting situation with the drivers for sure. Drew you're up next Haas right. Yeah speaking energy drinks So good or Steiner team. Principal for US said Crucially yes Crucially quote. We learned the direction. We need to go speaking of the car from from last year. We are happy with what we have seen at the moment. Magnusson echoed something similar It's a new car reacts differently and there is something to learn there but it's kind of a good sign that it's different. It's not just the same scourge on also seemed pretty positive. Says they haven't dialed everything in yet. But they're well on their way can't complain says we know where the positives are on the car where we can improve Although it was worrying a posted the slowest time and the fewest laps grow. Jonah magazine. Both crashed so this Along with gearbox issues that they had contributed to the low lap numbers they did have the highest top speed of anyone at least in test one. Although I think we've seen Williams do the highest speed trap in years past as well so that. I'm not sure how much that means. I am the optimistic part of me. Wants to believe that. They're just kind of taking their time here in the test. Not Pushing too hard making sure they understand everything Because that's where things were really went bad for them last year. Although I it nothing is really telling me that. They're going to make any leaps and bounds. Necessarily so yeah I this coincided with the there's an episode of season to have Dr Art survive which really goes through the whole off problem last year and and in a way that they were chasing pace last year. Kind of like what we were saying earlier whipping and auto and Ferrari where they were they were chasing this one the like the pay so much. They sort of got tunnel vision. And by the time the car needed to be sort of reconfigured for for racing and for all these different tracks they were kind of stuck not knowing enough about the car and the name of spending basically half if not all of last season splitting the cars and kind of running testing on every practice session for the rest of the year at trying to figure out what it is. That's that's wrong with the car's performance. So Y- maybe maybe going broader this time will will Will suit them at the final team to talk about is Williams. Of course first. First they turned up on time. Unlike last year in fact they were the first cars out on the track and once the green flag was waved on Day One Testing we saw Nicholas Latifi at turn up as well which is great to see him doing some interviews I did he's a guess he is a francophone. He's a Qubit Quad Canadian so speaks with an interesting accent. It took me a second figure that he was that he was speaking a second language and He had a car break down on the first day. And they had this issue with oil which Mercedes too But people were sort of wondering if it was just an issue with the Mercedes. Perry and William CD suffered a bit. More than say is in that respect. And but there's still ron consistence number of laps. They got a hundred and fifty laps. That day They ran one hundred laps On five of the at least one hundred sorry on five of the six days so they got plenty of data which is much better than last year but generally it looks like while the car might be a step forward. It might be a little bit too much for them to close the gap between The underperforming Haas of last year and Alpha Mayo which looks like it might be more powerful than at than we sort of realize the rest of the the crowd is obviously sped up as well so It's going to be tougher Williams. I think they've probably the todd yellow sagas behind them. And maybe the car is looking a little bit better. Probably mostly just you know holding on to Your Life until the twenty twenty one rags come in but They might be doing better this year but probably looking at last place again. There's also it hit them the worst but there does appear to be this across the board issue at the Mercedes. Engines this year Hamilton had to abort a run With an engine failure Williams I think burned through two engines over the course of testing. Wow and they were quick failures And they had they were shipping. Those things back to the Mercedes engine facility for analysis but it looks like there's something up with the There might be something up with the Mercedes and that jogs a memory actually from Sort of the mid off season Thing that that we were doing Which is that Mercedes? Did try to do a lot with Basically remember last year. They were struggling with with heat issues. and they change the tweet the engine a fair bit to try and handle some of this heat issues and make them less of a less of a problem so the notoriously reliable. Mercedes engine may have quietly had a more profound revision Then we've seen it have in In a little bit here so I'm very curious to see what goes on the Mercedes engines over like you know these I Eight races that they run whatever races they turn out to be and that's the teams that's everyone that's our our. Lemon Don's gentlemen predictions. What are we? What are we thank? Who are we all kind of resigned to the fact? This Mercedes will be leading the pack. This year I mean I think that's a a a a safe prediction to make at this point. What do we think for seconds robbery? Were you thinking? He's thinking about tapping his so close to saying rebels can do this. It feels like that sort of momentum feels like at least but you can never do so. Yeah yeah I'd say I think red bull easily get second I'm saying like I can see a world where they were. They pull out. I who like having just talked about like if Mercedes engine optimism. If that Mercedes engine yeah has a weak spot Then the factory team posted the most laps of anyone though. Yeah but they still had the issue. Right I don't like the the the thing that kills you you start yielding points up through You start yielding points through penalties and I think the thing we did see last year as the Mercedes doesn't have that sort of dominance where they can start wherever and just crush all the top teams like over the course of the season Like in several places that red bull became pretty competitive So I could. I could see them. I could see them being a real threat to Mercedes. I think unless Ferraris holding something in their back pocket they're gonNA roll over for me. Think and looking farther than the field a little bit too as well. Mclaren and Renault. Where do you think that that sort of two to six up in I mean? I think yeah rebel strong contender for second. I mean I I'd be crazy Furry and racing point I think have like a dead heat for third for me okay Maybe Ferrari third racing point four. Here's here's what here's why for a wins that because they don't have to run a stroll Very good point okay. So all right then after that I feel really good about McLaren. Yeah two more question mark surrounding Reynaud but they also have signs showing their strong. And Nour's there. I feel the two of them are just bubbling optimism. Is I feel like where he's Ricardo. I feel like that could kill him a second year. Okay the thing around Renault's been super interesting with Them and Ricardo to this whole season. There's this weird like if feels Like staged drama in some ways all the Renault leader shepper. Like you know. I don't know if we're going to be able to keep Daniel You know we're just trying to make these little incremental improvements but we know Daniels got his heart set on like a championship. You know Daniel World class talent. He may not want to wait around. you know for us to get our act together and then you have. Ricardo on the other side being like you know. I'd love to be in a more competitive car but I do really like being part of her now and I. I really wanted to be part of this journey and so I think the thing they are. I think these are two parties. They're kind of stuck together right like I think this is one of those. This is a couple that should not have gotten married but mortgages are expensive. Yeah there's these kids now and so this little like public like dance. They've been doing feels very much. Like a An attempt to sort of both show how they understand what the other is giving up to be there and both like understand like both demonstrating that they think. They're dance part their partner in this Can do better and hasn't been them to do better. And they respect online level 'cause I do think like overall I I I think the prospects were no were a little bit dim Ghana's will happen next year but this doesn't look good. I think Bottom for for me goes Alpha Tori offer a Mayo Hoss Williams Yeah I can see that I feel like this is something that we haven't seen although I I do have a big question. Mark over the ability of Antonio Juvenile to to make good on that. I think we could see. I think Kimmy will be more competitive this year. but Yeah but I also find that hard to argue with ten Haas Haydn's enough from Hossan. Yeah Unfortunately Williams. I think are probably going to be stuck where they are it. If Haas has the same tire issues than it doesn't matter like they're screwed Hopefully they've they've liked those. I don't know time will tell 'em let's jump in the news. Gentlemen and the news of the day on surprisingly in the sort of grander new cycle and also one is the the effect of the corona virus. Which is obviously you know. It's a changing story on a day by day basis when it comes to events Certainly in in our sort of industry The game developers conference consoles here in the bay area and as a bunch of different Companies pulled out because of the you know sort of travel at the collection of people that you get there and if you're looking at sports in which people are travelling to different countries from different countries and you can't pick a worse Sports to suffer from this. I think then Well Motorsport in general but certainly F. One it's already had a massive trickle down effect and a bunch of other racing series and there are concerns from lots of different and parties involved. So I'm just GonNa Kinda rattle through a bunch of the the corona virus updates here. Drew is very at greatly put together for us so motor. Gp is already council there Qatar in Thailand rounds as Super Formulas Council that season opener. Of course we have seen the last of the Chinese Grand Prix. Here informative one and the questions aren't just about the actual consolation of specific races but also in terms of the ability for personnel from different country. Hundreds to get to those races especially on the high timeframes and which are necessitated in a twenty one now race calendar year at some quotes here from autosport article around a Ferraris sort of assurances over corona virus am italian-team personal and drivers have had trouble getting to this. Weekend's Bahrain F to test because of fear over the virus Been Auto says so if there are any medical screenings we need to know about them and it's important ready to make sure that before leaving the picture or whatever is the scenario we know it's we know us It's known in clear at one issue for Ephraim. Kobe that one or two teams run in Australia because staff. Can I get there but all others are fine whether race should go ahead at that time? That's going to. That's the thing. I think that we're going to see the knock on effect of especially with Ferrari of course exactly as such a a serious outbreak at the moment at we'll get to the fried stuff in a second and I say this has been on again. I say it's not only two teams because we are supplying assistance to Haas on the Alpha at cyber team as well. So what will the situation? So what will be the situation that eventually fourteen count Ron and if the race will take place or not? That is not my decision There's a line here. Is this from Chase Carey. I think we do. We do not plan to proceed with sorry. We do not to proceed with the race. He said we do plan on. Sorry Vietnam in relation to Vietnam. Sorry he sat on a call with Wall Street analysts all systems are go of course Vietnam having a pretty serious Africa as well as like. I said it's a sort of evolving story. And who knows in a day or two could be very different all over again at furrier in their own little pickle about this because of the outbreak in Italy at the moment they locked in the factory Ju- to the covert thirteen should be more specific Akron. Oh virus and what was the the note you had your drew and in relation to the scrutiny? Yes so The issue specifically is that yeah when they when Italian team members went to Qatar they subjected Italians to quarantine Specifically as coming from country with an uncontained outbreak In that starts happening then that creates you now have critical staff Basically quarantined somewhere else. Where from their homes but also unavailable for any kind of work. They're taken off the board and so for our. You're not going to send like you know. Imagine imagine like Matteo Auto Just has to like chill in a motel mistrial for for two weeks You know while the F one season is underway That's just that's a nonstarter But where I think this gets really complicated is and we're kind of living this dynamic really intensely here in the US as well But this happening in F- One microcosms additionally everybody wants to do business as usual Nobody wants to actually take emergency measures and treat this like a major public health. Emergency and Where we see like the real incentive for this with a f one if you were being pragmatic right like if you and I were just sort of sitting around being like okay for real. Can we have these races can we? Can we run in Vietnam while you were running one? Should we even try at this point given the uncertainty? I would bet you like. It feels like that would be a sensible thing to be like this. This seems like it's probably something we're GONNA have to make preparations to cancel F. One really doesn't want to do this in part because When they when they had investor call liberty media had an investor call Earlier this week. Their share price dipped from forty seven dollars to thirty seven fifty over the course of a week. A six month low mccranie Dita Rankin de basically Undid a lot of their stock gains that liberties had for the past three years. So this is company. That's been like trying to claw. Its way toward Like healthy profitability and canceling these races. And not getting those Fees from e event holders could be really crushing For the sport and not just not just liberty media is a hall Rankin breaks it down This way if you take Williams they make about sixty million dollars a year From Liberty If you were to take five rounds off of the F one calendar That means that six million dollars basically goes up in smoke And that is if the broadcasters still pay the full value of their contract despite not running the full balance of races if the TV contracts parade in that same way Then you're looking at like a twelve million dollar hit to the budget. Twenty percent of the revenue of the Williams team for the year can can a team like Williams eight that contain like Haas. Eat that So this is. It's a scary situation from the public health standpoint but also like a lot of the people whose job it would be to sort of assess this and judge Whether or not these events should move forward and what's worth planning for A lot of folks really do not want to contemplate the realities of what like truncating? That scheduled require yeah. It's going to be interesting to see how this all sort of Plays out in terms of the races because at some of them may be more dangerous like Japan. For instance seems like. That's probably one of the more dangerous places to be flying in which people into they've already had I think it's a two week and ban on a bunch of the the schools are out for two weeks there But of course that racism until quite late in the season. It's the second week of October. So no one's going to be pulling the plug on quite yet and I and then of course you know. China was so early in the calendar so as Vietnam it was meant. It was the week prior to that fifth of April so soon like the Vietnam one especially feels very tough. Because the PROBAB- I imagine as well that the annoy based in you know investors and everyone who setting that went off are probably been really banking on payday and twenty twenty With the building of circus and or the or the event rather so it does make you worried looking at the rest of them. It really depends on what happens in Europe where we're having. Obviously it's it's kind of this case is basically everywhere now. They're in Ireland's Northern Ireland the Iberian Islands Spain France. Italy is obviously. I feel like at least probably again. It's kind of I don't WanNa say lookie it's blessed in a way that it is later in the season second half a season after the summer break or we're going to Monza but like surely at at what stage you know the reason. Gdp for instance again this game developer conference that we sort of we. We operate in as we also working games the reason that one was cancelled wasn't because GTC pulled the plug it was because so many companies stopped sort of sending their people to us. So do we see a situation where there's an outbreak in the country and it's particularly frost and you know engineers don't Wanna go or drivers don't WanNa go or the you know it's sort of out of the FAA hands in a way where some of the teams are like? You know what that's probably a little bit too close for comfort. Yeah I mean it it. It could get really weird here for the next few months Although you know it could lead to My Own Personal Cinderella story where I go to a grand and none of the FRY guys can show up and so they have walked on trials to be pit crew and then I become a hero you look like Nicaragua or Kevin. Magnusson offbeat picker. Yeah okay like why not just full Ligo like angels in the Outfield Airbud? Yeah some other Not other but some different good news here yes. Espn confirms to be commercial free this year and for the next three years is that thanks to our friends mothers it is thank you mother's Polish So awesome yeah just put it on my skin how I get this. This glow. Just say yes this comes from motorsports reporter Adam Stern on twitter claiming ESPN assigned mother's Polish. Your three year renewal of the company's sponsorship of Commercial Free F. One action this the only way. I can watch racing so yeah kudos to them for for doing that. Toxic rob you ought to talk about F. One is saving the planet. Yeah they're they're on the case I mean they might cancel bunch of races. Which would probably be the most positive thing that could do for the environment in calendars racist comedy but they are trying to work on the carbon neutrality of the sport And one of the targets that Ross Brawn has laid out is the motorhomes If you are like F one events you will see these huge Trailers pulling up and a lot of them will sort of be bowl tron together to form these kind of like trailer office buildings trailer apartments For for the F one teams and then the four things like Like Monaco for instance. Sometimes they bring out like special trailers of that Ross Brawn describes as like the Djinn Palace Trailers which are ridiculously hospitality Trailers that are really just kind of these sort of unfold into transformers. Yeah yeah the. And they're really. They're really kind of incredible They're they're really impressive pieces of cat and I've always Like I I kind of am fascinated by them but nevertheless That is hauling around a lot of weight and putting a lot of mileage Out there Mostly for the purposes of creature of creature comforts and like hospitality suites And one of the things that Ross Brawn points out this is mostly an issue for the European racing. Don't bring the trailer to the fly away events because obviously you can't drive them there and it doesn't make sense so when the teams are at fly away races they tend to just use whatever facilities are on hand and they can still put out a pretty good spread writing still host guests while they can still be pretty comfortable China the had does that. Oh yeah there's a cool as hell. Gerrad man missed the China the Chinese down But anyway so bronze position is. We could do that at every race A lot of motor sports Facilities have decent facilities or something nearby. The teams could probably use in a pinch. They should maybe do that But also there's just some breathtaking reinventing the wheel or yes in this case the steam engine type of quotes from this interview with Ross Brawn. As he's working out the problem of how do we? What do we do about the two hundred fifty six thousand five hundred fifty one tonnes of carbon The F. One contributes the atmosphere each year? What can we do to lower the footprint of the Sport Braun? Some guys at the moment are looking at all. The alternative forms of transport and train is actually a very efficient way of moving stuff around sea. Freight is also a very efficient way of moving around in terms of the impact has so we're looking all the logistics to see how we can minimize our impact Assist race trains. I'm I'd be there for that but it's it's more just you know. This is particularly frustrating for someone who You know the. Us used to have a really good rail network. Like fifty years ago and largely demolished it and sold it off to To freight haulers and it is not usable for a lot of small business logistics Which is the kind of use case that you're actually talking about with F. One does not small business. These are like you're not really shipping stuff viral enough one. These are sort of special cargoes that you'd be booking Nevertheless feels like this is probably something that should have been on the on the radar for a while so feels like something that could have been possible Before now sea freight I do understand as being tough because it's slow And so like what? He's going to have F one cars flying around the Pacific for for for months on end. I don't know but it's something they're looking at but there's another point they had. That was interesting to me. Which was you know the F one calendar doesn't really make any sense They don't take the shortest distance between points they're constantly zigzagging they go to Canada as the worst one. Yeah it's completely nonsensical to Canada is considered part of the European leg of Brazil to Abu Dhabi. Yeah it none of it makes any sense. But even I guess even if you just Like rationalize the European calendar What they could end up doing is they could end up. Saving like Thirty four hundred kilometers of of distance travelled during the European leg Which comes out to like one point one two five million kilometers of of diesel mileage. So those are those are options on the table and those are probably things like that F. One should consider doing there. Those are literally. Look the least you can do to start out because you're not actually giving giving up. You're just changing calendar dates also. WanNa toss up. Data Franken wrote an interesting post over at race fans about the fact that having a lot of attention for being Vegan and for being outspoken on environmental shoes but like George Russell said some more things and in general like younger people are more concerned but climate change and F. One drivers are not really exceptions to this Yes you do have Max Out there being like I love red meat but by and large adding a lot of the younger drivers do sort of share these concerns but Louis one of his big issues is plastic. Waste and plastic pollution. He sort of famously insists on Banning plastics insofar as possible from the Ferrari pit and this year. Mercedes all day five year. deal with the chemical company. I ne- US Which you'll see their logo on the red End Plates on the On the Mercedes Wings this year and the House is not a petroleum company but they are a company that largely bought up the chemical manufacturer assets of petroleum companies and became a petrochemical production giant and Per rankin plastics of the variety produced by any US at the rate of three hundred billion pallets per week at one plant alone are said view. Major contributor ocean micro plastic pollution And that's going to be a tension and F one that they're going after Navy not just the sport has this like massive environmental cost but also I- Niaz by sponsorship to Mercedes and part so that they can get a nice shout out from the drivers and such is Lewis Hamilton. Actually going to be out there saying like Ban could have done without any US Or is he going to keep the novels length? At which point you have kind of again a weird distance where you have drivers increasingly conflicted. Not just about the sport but maybe also some of the sponsors And that is going to be. That's GonNa be tricky like motor. Sports always seems to have dubious sponsors. you know when. I was growing UP CIGARETTE. Companies and that was sort of their. They've been driven out of pretty much all other advertising. But I mean it's still cigarette companies. Right they're just hiding in plain sites. Yeah I mean there's mission winnow Yeah and you know it's been Gas Companies For for ages but those are starting to fall into a similar sort of toxic reputation and once those advertisers begin to dry up. Like what's the next? What's next avenue for has revenue You know if one last piece of news I think big news anyway We want to just yeah. I guess talk about it. As much as we we can would be the The Ferrari engine settlements stuff which I feel like. I'm more confused about this than I was before the news even came Ash So the FAA Ferrari reached a settlement at Robbi. Dan For this you okay taking one but it's a confusing story because this is all kind of under wraps he remember last year There was the there was that point. Where Ferrari suddenly gained a lot of pace and people intimated that there may have been something Not Quite not not. Oh sure yeah not. Quite kosher about what fry doing and nothing ever came of it but also supposedly furry then made some modifications. Nothing wrong with the engine but for our may have some modifications and the pace went away and there was a lot of. I feel like that'll do some shit talking about Leclair Because everything is about those two When when they get into it But there was a little bit of shade being thrown from other teams that When fry picked up its pace there was something Not on the up and up and so what has come of this is there was a settlement reached between the FAA and Ferrari over that twenty nineteen Ferrari engine Following and investigation. And all that's been said is that there's a settlement and no further information will be forthcoming but settled. Here's a great. Here's a great part of that statement. The FAA and scooter Scuderi Ferrari have agreed to a number of technical commitments that will improve the monitoring of all Formula One power units in the forthcoming championship seasons as well as assist the FAA and other regulatory duties in Formula One and in its research activities on carbon emissions and sustainable fuels so the therefore I reckon everyone else's also messing with fuel consumption. The just like. Hey if you're going to stop us make sure no one else does it not to me. It sounds like the caught to me. It's to me. That sounds like they did get caught. And maybe maybe part of their defense. Is this a standard practice at other teams? Everyone's ask deal on science mine. Everyone's on it but it. Kinda feels to me like they may have found a way to work around how saieed detect did breach us and as part of hushing this up for our is going to help the FAA of void. Those kind of miscues in the future this is such a hacker who has been like caught by the FBI but now they're going to use their skills to catch other akers. Yeah yeah the entire thing. The entire thing feels sketch As as the kids say yeah. I guess more on Nash As we continuances the season or or not. Maybe that's the last year of it and that's all there news. I think gentleman rich energy is sponsoring a British superbike team but We will get into that and enrich energy watch as we proceed throughout the season. Got a couple of emails here if we could jump into those shift iphone podcast that you dot com if you have any emails. F. One DOT com slash emails. Any thoughts about who you think is sandbagging who you think is. GonNa be a surprise amid team. Mid-table winner Let us know shift our foreign podcast com. I'll take the first one and this one kind of in relation to are the the the lion share of. We were doing here Over the past months which was talking about Ford Versus Ferrari on the twenty hour war which were two of our a patron exclusive. Podcast PATRIARCH COMSTOCK SHIFT F. One found support the show and listen to our whole archive of Podcast check now This coming in from Michael a good book that sort of compliments the movie or movies. Hey guys big fan a show I. I'm another new fad from drive to survive last year. Who went from more or less no lodge to watching every practice session? Two Weeks Off Gossiping a great help and keeping me involved in up to speed on everything and I really enjoyed being a patron to so thank you. I wanted to write into guys to suggest you to book. Go to go like hell by go to hell go like hell by AJ Beim. This book covers the events in the movie. Along with much of the history and backstory leading up to them this being the Mon- nineteen sixty six and sort of Iran. There and the book has an equal focus on both the Ford and Ferrari aspects honestly the Ferai parts are generally more interesting if focus on his personal life as well as the deaths of his son. Dino and the long process of legitimizing his son with his mistress Piero g Mac They also go into detail on many of the FRY drivers on the criticisms of Enzo at the time in his management style. Many peoples belief that the high pressure environment led to a surplus of racing debts on the Ferrari team threat the fifties and sixties. Some of this was actually covered in the documentary. As well as I've interested to see how deep it goes found this one I was doing one of the nights nights kimball unlimited trials and figured it would be worth a read with the movie coming out. I would definitely recommend is to get more knowledge regarding the battle but also the history of Ferrari's race team and road car divisions as well as Ford's racing for gamma and the domestic issues that affected such as the race. Ralph Nader's book unsafe at any speed. Which nearly derailed the racing program for reasons which wasn't included in the film? Thanks again for the POD looking forward to another season. Keep up the great work so if anyone's interested without is go like hell. Aj Beim at Aj and be a I M E. Were checking out if you want to some further reading on Ford and Ferrari Arab on this one just got to point out the they actually interview. Ha Beim In the twenty four hour war anti original title for verse. Rory was go like hell. You're kidding yeah wow yeah. I wonder how much it was used. Then for the script or something must've been a resource Shirley at least sorry. Go ahead problem. Comes from Andrew in Calgary There's some good news for us. Canadian listeners F. One TV is now available in Canada. I'm watching testing right now. Particularly exciting to me is access to the race archive which currently goes back to the nineteen eighty-one season. Are there any particularly good in Torius races? That would be worth watching a particularly good seasons. I'm sure these properties are great to watch. Thanks for all the work you put into the podcast and listening since it was an alternative one. That's been great to continue to develop and grow rob's amazing edition. Thank you thank you sir I agree. It's IT'S FUNNY. We're still talking. Rob Addition is this your third season a half. Yeah yeah I'd probably rather. Yeah it's cool. I'm glad to see that the one that comes to mind right away since this person's in Canada Canada Tony Eleven. Of course he'll yeah the the ridiculous double red flagger and God. I think there's there's so many races from last year I'd watch again like Germany and Brazil. We talked about this. I think when we were In the off season break and looking for things to watch. Yeah we we did. I think you're right. Was it the last public one we did. I think Actually end of end of the season. We okay so we we put together this actually on f. One DOT COM SLASH BLOG. Slash offseason twenty nineteen We can actually like this In the show as well but we said from two thousand nineteen the best races. Were Bahrain. Australia. Great Britain Germany Hungary and Brazil. And I think we kind of brainstormed older races and came up with Belgium. Ninety eight area Brazil. Two Thousand Eight candidates twenty eleven Brazil. Twenty Sixteen And Azerbaijan twenty seventeen and two thousand eighteen. Yeah totally also just like try going back into the F. One TV archive. They don't have every race every season. I think they're slowly adding more and more but just like pick a random one that's old. Yeah it's it's fun to just see how different it is. I think I watched one from the eighties or something in half the field retired and I watched like the following race in the same exact thing happened like f. one is just different back then watched the two thousand seven season. If you WANNA watch a great season F one watched the two thousand seven season two thousand seven so Hamilton's first season. Yeah when he's cared for non to Alonzo Yeah Zoo. And there's a good case made that like McLaren would have had that in the bag that mercy that McLaren had the pace that air. And maybe the best car. But the problem of course. Is that the two drivers. Just fucking hated each other And it got way out of hand In terms of their rivalry and it escalates to an off the track drama as well. Which is that In his parting shot from leaving the team in a half. Fernando Alonso basically may be Kinda SORTA dimes team out to the FAA About some technical infractions and gets them excluded from the constructor's championship and a one. Hundred million euro find levied against the team Seven seven just great racing drama on the track and then just if you look at the politics around it at the time it's just great stuff then only five five races from the twenty seven. Such thousand seven season R. R. A. F. One TV archive bomber is the Brazil. At least yes I think generally what they do is they pick the best ones. And then they give you like a ten minute recap of the other ones. Oh you're right. Yeah don't that that's how they do it. They sort of have these little like I think they've pulled them from like a TV or something channel. Four it was like a little like a news. Wrap up show or something. Yeah like in in situ and final email drew. You WanNa take this. One sure Joey says has a League been created for twenty twenty f one fantasy in fact. Joey yes there has it is called shift F. One official over at fantasy dot Formula One dot com. And if you want to enter you can follow the link in the show notes because I could give you the URL and the the code but that would be useless for anyone who's not sitting with a notepad and paper because there's an invite code that secret only for Sheffield listeners. Yeah we I can't remember if I did this last year but I've opened it up. You can have three teams. Who so you can kind of do different strategies teams Yeah divide and conquer so is already some really good team names in there. So yeah check that out Actually just twitter about some of his favorite teams Roman Groshans continued employment. Go Fund DOT COM Slash Reynaud. Team jet Gander mountain trucks. And it's you boy drew scanlon. That's beautiful which I'm thinking. I might go with Antonio G. O. Uinn Nazi I saw the signs and it opened up my eyes all great essay. I Ns at I think. Oh yeah okay. Also that's emails shift of one podcast at G. DOT COM or ephron dot cool slash emails That's pretty much patron. That's pretty much a patriot. That's pretty much like ask for this week Make sure to follow us at shift of one podcast and the Patriots. Of course as patriarch com slash. Shift one if you want to check that out. We had the Docks like I said the twenty four hour war podcasts. Sorry on the four vs Friday one. We're having a sort of a knocking of heads later on this week about adding some cool new stuff to the F. One shiffman Patriot on this season. Also we've been creeping up in patrons rope to over eight hundred. I think now and if we hit a thousand we did promise weeds. Do some film some on-track action with all three of us. So we're dangerously close. I would yeah. I think so. Expect that we're going to do like a sort of an announcement some cool new stuff coming to the Patriots on I have a bunch of games over there. We're going to continue doing the F. One game history or break out of it. But I think we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA add some some new stuff Otherwise to But yeah a few We're we're pretty close to getting there. So who knows maybe before Melbourne will will have gotten that enough to go figure out where we can go racing but Yeah I'm excited to do more fun stuff on the Patriot on this year it was. It was optic blast last year. I think really sort of lit a fire under Iris's as well and Made made even the the core show. I think more fun just because we were spending more time on it and having fun and then it got Mr I don't usually host. The show is running off of the stage or no. I don't think so I think Yeah like you said you could follow us on twitter at shift on podcast. I'm Atra scanlon. Danny Wires at Daniel Dwyer Rob's acnes at ROB's acne Yeah anything else from you. Rub Nope just really eager to get these racist. Started before you can get cancelled points next. Podcast then pre Australia. It will be yes. Pool in a fortnight's time I want to say. 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Evo 2019 Over Tea

"What's up everybody. Welcome back to the show. This is the outliers my name's frank frank adams with me as usual yo yo what's up man. How you doing pretty good by you. Be trying to beat the heat dude trying to beat the heat always have air conditioning. I know you know this zeller's podcast. Everybody welcome back to the show. <hes> weekly geeky e type of podcast. We usually have offerings right up front. I think we're gonna just jump into a little i today i feel like all over the place. I don't know if it's the heat or what what it is but there's ninja news. There's a little bit of evil news. Let me just start off by saying. We'll do an offering in a second but i'm tool fan and they're allowed to you. Listeners may be tool fans to and there's a lot of news about tool lately but let me tell you something. I don't understand standard and i have talked to you about this. Adam and you seem to agree with me to a certain extent. I just don't get like why people are so excited that it's all stretchable annable now because as of yesterday all of tools albums or stream -able now on all the streaming services but people and i know the there's probably like an age gap. I was thinking about it. There's probably like a huge age gap be because the last album was like in two thousand six so since then like shit there weren't as uneven phones there wasn't even smartphones whether we're like the nokia ones but there wasn't touchscreen smartphones yeah and there wasn't anything like streaming services for music or anything like that so i get that people maybe i don't know that they have like cds or what but i don't understand the hype about all the streaming shit like i have on my phone as m._p. Threes and i have all the cds and people are just like online and everywhere. They're just like oh my gosh they beat drake on the charts of you know what who gives the fuck in about three four five six seven days that she's going to go back to normal tool is just not mainstream and it's my favorite fucking band of all time i mean them and nirvana but it's all it's like all right guys enough. You need to chill the new album is not even out yet. It's coming out on the thirtieth so you know when i get pumped about out to like the way the people online are acting when i'm at a show like when i can actually see you know what i mean yeah. I just don't get it and that's not really an offering. That's just like an observation and i i was reading a lot of stuff online and it's like oh. The all four albums are in the top tens in like people are like they're scrutinizing the album art. That's showing going up. Is that like when you stream stuff and it shows the album and they're like. There's this big old seeing like everything's remastered in it. Sounds brighter can hear it some certain things that i never heard before. I like sure you can exactly. It's like you know what i listen to that. Shit on the regular and i mean it's weird because they're the streaming services they stream music at lower bit rates than like cd quality so even to it's down to the point where people we'll have like made. Wave files not wave. I'm sorry wave forms of each each track the streaming version and the cd version and they're like oh look at the differences of the wave forms arms and it's just like look you guys i mean i don't wanna say like this but if you're like a legit tool fan you'll you'll have that stuff available until you already on digital regardless. You know what i mean. <hes> it's like that's how i roll with my shit. I don't know about everyone else anyways. I got an offering for y'all's. It's kind of a scientific offering. It's kind of not it's just something that <hes> i been into lately and i think it's worth mentioning everybody because it has a lot of different aspects to it <hes> <hes> so to be frank because my name is frank yeah to be frank with the with regards to the offering section of the podcast today <hes> <hes> i used to do a lot of a lot of bad partying things in it resulted in a lot of addictions and stuff like that and i'm not going to get into the to the details of that but safe to say i have an addictive addictive personality insofar as when i get into something i get really into it so been cleaned from all the bad stuff for a while <hes> there for a minute. I was really into wine. You know i got into wine and it's like not to the point where i was dog drunk falling over in jail but to the point where i needed to realize what was going on and it it's funny how that works because it transfers over to different things but the latest thing that i'm into is is not bad. It's not a bad thing. It's it's t. Transferred over to know so <hes> you know get into black teas in white teas and green teas and all that stuff and then not too long ago. I made a trip to san francisco oh to the tea gardens over there and discovered macho now. That is my offering today's. Do you know much is out of a ah. I've heard of it but i've never had okay so much is d- just real quick like brief on t. T's all the same plant black black tea white tea <hes> green tea. It's all the same plant is just like it's kind of like bell peppers. It's when you pick them. It determines the color and stuff like that so <hes> green tea is <hes> is what much has made from because when they say oh you know you've i'm sure you've heard that and i don't want to sound like an infomercial but i'm sure you've heard that green tea has a lot of health benefits and stuff like that right. <hes> okay so macho is basically the the tea leaves that are it's traditional japanese t t but it's the actual green tea leaves that have been ground up so you're not just getting the the healthy stuff from the tea leaves being soaked in water in the that those that healthy stuff transferring to the water but you're actually consuming the tea leaves in powder form and there's a lot of there's a lot of things that <hes> go into this. I was intrigued by it up there in san francisco. It's it's just a fine green powder. You mix it with hot water or milk if you want some people make green macho latinos as and stuff but let me word of advice skip the starbucks much stuff. It's it's like eighty percent sugar. <hes> it's really weird when you're looking for. It's really really rid when you're looking for t- nowadays because if you get into it and stuff back in twenty eleven the fukushima reactor in japan it fucked up and melted down because of that soon nami and a lot of the macci. It's known to be like ceremony for japanese. <hes> like rituals. I i guess it would be. I'm not really up on a lot of the the japanese the way they use it and stuff but i know it's like a ceremonial tea and i went recently in bought some macho powder here in a local t. store and they had like different <hes>. I guess it's different qualities. I'm not even quite sure what the difference is because i asked they had the ceremonial quality and then the food quality and then like not only do you have to take that into account when you're buying it but you have to also take into account the fact that this stuff was probably <hes> grown and and farmed over in japan so since tony eleven there's a lot of fucking radiation over there <hes> so you kinda <hes> like look at where your stuff was farmed from and see where it was imported from and hopefully it's it's all legit as far as what says what it says on the label <hes> so it's a lot that that goes into it when you're buying watch a <hes> it has a lot of it's packed with antioxidants including powerful edgy c. which let me much tea contains a unique potent class of antioxidant known as catta chins. That's e. e. c. h. i. n. s. I don't even know if i'm saying we might be kid akins which are found another foods particularly the catechin e. g. the c._g. App let's see if i could pronounce if my science words are with me today epochal epa gala khachigian galley nope no good provides divides potent cancer fighting properties <hes> most importantly c._g. And other kachins counteract the effects of free radicals from the likes of pollution u._v. rays radiation and and chemicals which can lead the cell dna damage over sixty percent of the cousins and macho are actually easy c._g. A daily regimen can help restore and preserve the bodies in integral integral wellbeing and balanced <hes> not only that but it has caffeine the way it has <hes> the way the caffeine works in it though some of the stuff that that that's in it it kind of is like a slow release on your body so you don't really get like jitters and stuff like that. It's yeah it's it's. There's a whole bunch. It's a different health benefits to this stuff man. It's like it has a mean an amino acid l thinning <hes> it helps you concentrate and focus it says over a thousand years ago macho came to japan as an aid to meditation practice during long hours of sitting monks were drink macho to remain alert yet com modern science has recently confirmed the lessons of centuries stories of the centuries-old tradition much as rich and elfin a rare amino acid that actually promotes a state of relaxation wellbeing by acting upon the brains functioning that music nick for me man better mood less stress. I this actually says <hes> this actually says it counteracts some the stress inducing beta waves and put some put your brain in a more or less agitated state than creating by creating alpha waves so there's a bunch of stuff man. It's i've been drinking a lot of it. Lately actually have a case coming in nice. You know how we addicts do it yeah but i mean like bags or just like the leaves. It's the it's the actual it's the it's the ground powder so okay. You're gonna see me like fucking <music> coming up off of the table with green powder all over my face and she won't say one thing. That's probably the way to do it. No it's not the way to you mix it in with hot water like little. I like a whisk bamboo whisk and everything i got my whole setup. <hes> oh yeah yeah. I'm really into it. I mean it's it's just something you know. I would recommend commend somebody anybody trying. I mean as long as you're not allergic to t- <hes> it's fun. It's it's one of those things you know how people have coffee rituals and they like to drink coffee and make their coffee and ground beens off the same thing with the macci <hes> i think that the difference between the ceremonial and the food grade is is that when they're growing the they have the ceremonial tea is the leaves that are picked off of the top that hurling 'cause they have they shared the plants for a while for a few weeks because i think and that makes them produce a lot of chlorophyll so they it turns really bright green and the top leaves are the ones that are plucked off of the plants and ground up to make the ceremonial stuff because those the most bright bright green in with the most i guess chlorophyll and the rest of the plant is ground up for the food grade so there's a lot to it. I mean if you guys if you want to go out there and study up on it. Look into a little bit. I would definitely suggest it's it's a fun and interesting thing to be into it. There's a lot of health benefits to it. <hes> i'm not i kind of took up a lot of the time on the offerings. Do you wanna. Do you have something to throw out there now. Yeah go watch yvo this weekend and that's all i have to say since i want to take too much time of with the like what i have but i mean we're gonna talk about a little bit of yvo stuff anyways so i mean since go watch yvo oh yeah so since that's the recommendation this week are the offering this week and i want to say something everybody that clip of like go one go ichi winning the dragon wolf <hes> fighters championship ego oh and like he's like crying. John sonic fox's like laughing and like happy forum and hugging him you know and original sonic fox's so so like wholesome. It's just like you clearly haven't been like following like the f._c._c. for awhile you know now. I'm not saying that like sonic fox's a bad guy like i'm a really big fan of his but like the guy talks trash okay like he backs it up but like he's smacktalk salat so stop being like oh. He's so wholesome like oh. My god like come on lake that just shows like you don't even fucking watch the shit like at all like it's like i'm not saying he's not like a good guy you know and like he's not like a great guy and he's not a nice guy. You know 'cause. He seems like on twitter <hes> but i mean come on like stop it. Just stop. You know just stop selling. I mean it's it's just funny to me like people doing clip right now and peop- people do like one thing they're like oh. He's so yeah but he's also lost matches where he's done like passive aggressive stuff. I like that might be this. No i mean he's he's. He's i read his tweet and he seemed pretty pretty genuine. He's laughed at a like lost like when he's lost before and he's kind of like giving people props you know and <hes> <hes> <hes> i think <hes> he he in like gucci or go one. They've been kind of like back and forth salaam like all mortal kombat a drag amal fighters tournament so i it's just like a friendly rivalry. You know but it's a yeah it's just funny. Everybody's just like oh. This is awesome awesome like i'm so happy to be part of like the gaming community and i just like all i hear. My head is like the record scratch. You must be new due to the f._d._i._c. like yeah. There's like some great moments and stuff but let me tell you there is trash talk a plenty in the f._t._c. but i mean don't you think it should be like that like it's not all fucking like you know. Grab ass fucking this and that is is even even just the fact that it's not a sport that there's contact tacked. These people get serious and they talk a lot of shit. Yeah i mean and the competition serious <unk> look. This is different than like any other sports all right right. There are no team yinka a team of people with you. There is in three other people to back you up four or five. Whatever our it's you and your skills versus the person sitting next to you and their skills. It's whoever's better you know. Sometimes luck plays into it because they drop a combo uh-huh or you know you just get that last hit or whatever it can be anything. You know but it's like it. It's the the f._t._c. is more primal. You know it. It's a lot more emotional. You know because you know like i said you're playing by yourself. You have to rely on yourself. It's like you're gonna put like everything in there and you know and people take people were super serious you know and like i think one of the reasons why he's laughing because i think sonic fox is like oh well. I lost but i'm also like gonna win like probably mortal kombat. Actually he did win. Mortal kombat diddy rom eleven yes so he's immoral comma yeah i i think he's won the last like every single nether realm game that they've had except for maybe down. I can't remember if he wanted justice do but he probably did but every basically every well every mortal kombat recently starting with what do they do eight or nine when they redid everything nine. He's one ego so i mean he wanted to vote tonight of moral combat eleven but yeah. It's just really funny to me. That people are just like oh. It's so wholesome. Get out of here like you're. You're you're you're exposing yourself. We're not watching all this. You know what i mean. I think there's aspect of it and i think maybe a lot of people wanna frame it like as if it's that accessible when in reality it isn't even i i mean i don't play a lot of games but i follow a lot of this shit like follow it as is closely as i can not just because i have podcast because i i like to play games time and just you know what i mean. That's how it goes but even i have like no don't know the ins announce or the fucking like inner details of stuff like they f g c which i mean. Some people wouldn't even know what that is you know yeah and then like i said i said i just want to repeat like i don't think sauna fox's a bad guy. I don't hold the trash talking against him. Because that's just part of the juicy like you talk smack back. You know and you never see anything personal like yours just you just it's always about like how they play. You know like it's never about beanie be need. He you know you don't say stuff personally about people <hes> and he never does and but it's just really funny that everybody's just like like oh. It's so wholesome and oh man. I'm just like your ass with the fuck and floor buddy wholesome and it's just like come on man in my opinion you see what happens when he doesn't ice go ichi momentum like he did last year in the evil final yet like style. Thank you very much much. This is what happens you know. I knew go gee would have won last year too but people with this strategy while <unk>. That shit wasn't fucking present here and look what happened open up you know he's he's gone. She's defense is just too good. That's that's what the thing is <hes> anybody who would like a refresher on last year's we having episode <hes> specifically about that about evil twin eighteen <hes> believe it's called believe the title is a sonic fox. Show <hes> yeah yeah go. Check it out. Listen to it. <hes> <hes> compared to what you're what you're getting this year. Keep up on that shit yeah but like i said i don't i'm not trying to i'm not trying to do like discredit song fox or saying that he wasn't genuine. I'm like i'm from following him for a while. I'm sure he was like super. Happy for gucci dan. This motherfucker finally beat me. You know about you know about time kind of thing <hes> you know and <hes> but like come on people like stopped thinking like oh because he was happy for his opponent who beat him that like oh the gaming deaf the f. t. C.'s like so awesome and it's like just like last month. People were like oh the f._t._c. has gone too far when really like it went. Another player was talking smack and trying to discredit a win of you know <hes> somebody else unlike another tournament and then when they fought at. I believe it was c._e._o. That one player like any other players facing like was yelling at him because he beat them like basically like yeah. Motherfucker like fuck view like you're. You're trying to like like am i that bad beat you like as if they were at home and everybody and everybody's like oh like he got in his face. Oh my gosh and it's like well. I mean people nowadays like if you're gonna talk trash like online like you better like you'd better back it up. Totally you know like in game. I'm not saying to go like punch people because that's just not. You've got to have like a level head. If you're a pro player but you know <hes> <hes> like you got to be able to back it up. If you don't back it up then you got to eat the consequences and the consequences somebody getting your face and be like yeah you think shit white before with you motherfucker so suck my dick. That's that's how what the trash talking. Is you know but it to me. It's just funny that like last month. People were condemning the f._c._c. and now people are like dilma god. This is amazing. This is so wholesome. It's like okay like i mean pick what you want. You want like people to be happy for each other or like goal. There's no trash talk or like you ain't gonna acknowledge the trash talk when he gets too far and then be like all the f._t._c.'s there if there's this is just too intense as you know people are just to the people are just too intense and you know it's like well shit man like i don't understand like which everybody talks trash to each other on on twitter all at the time. There are people who they're like. Some of the top players are just super troll like they they teabag in the middle of matches sonic fox does it you know but ah it's like you know that's how they are like. It's mind games. You don't know what i mean like for them and that's what they do so it's like but i feel feel like a lot of media just like picks and choose what they want to talk about with the f._t._c. You know and it's just like all right like whatever you know. I mean what's funny because there's like you know how the n._f._l. <hes> you can't celebrate the end zone or any of that shit anymore than the media they. I think what we're dealing with. Here is a new breed of athlete and fuck you if you you don't consider these people athletes because it takes a certain set of skills and a certain amount of practice get where they got <hes>. If you think that you you could do what they do. Play me in a fighting game because i bet you won't be able to beat me and i'm not really that good bitches there. It is but yeah like i was saying and and i think what the some of the media even some of the viewers may be. I mean most people who watch it close enough they. They're aware of it. I mean i like i said i follow a sonic fox online and you're right. He does trash talk just randomly out of nowhere he'll mention stuff regarding matches and stuff and people that he plays but i think a lot of the media may wanna frame it it. They've kinda wanna frame the story or spin it to where it's accessible to more people because then it makes you know it helps them but i don't. I don't think it's always like that yeah. I mean like <hes> he like. It's one of those things where you know. <hes> i feel bad because i feel like people are more like like oh like sonic fox so wholesome. It's like wool. What about like go one who just one night in who's like the champion why isn't he he gets the attention. You know so. It's just kinda like i mean you know. I love that they were the two finalists because they're the two best like dragon bullfighters players out there. <hes> in the world and coming number three is causing oko because says he's always like a beast in all anime fighting games. He's like oh jeez <hes> but <hes> yeah i mean it's just you know it's just interesting that people cherry pick like moments. I mean like i said i'm not trying to rain on people's prayed and i don't want them to think that like oh the you can't i think this is wholesome and <hes> all this other stuff and i i want like i would like more moments in this where people were like happy for each other and they're not like super salty about losing. You know what i mean but it's also just like look like it's it's okay that they also like talk trash each other. You know if they do or if they pop they do the pop off which is where like they jump out of their chair and they celebrate. I mean everybody does that and they should be allowed to do that. Without being like oh that's taunting or no come on man like any. They're excited excited because they just one you mean oh totally anybody who's played video games head to head on a couch done. The pop off man you know is next to someone and you get you know you. You beat them in the game or even like nowadays. It's all it's all online you jump off the couch and you'd be like yeah motherfucker. You know like goes yeah. It's just a it's. It's a it's definitely it's it's to me like just being like a follower of the fighting game community for a while and like these players and seeing everything. It's just odd that like people are just so they're so quick to condemn the f._c._c. and like certain things but then like all of a sudden like one good thing happens and they're like oh look at this. This is so great and it's like. I don't understand like oh you got to realize that this stuff is become with fortnight tournament. They just happen. You know it's funny as i read today actually because last week this this past week fortnight thing happened where thirteen year olds are getting becoming multimillionaires. Six sixteen year-old won the tournament in he was three million dollars yeah. That's that's a multimillionaire are in. It's like a lot of the fortnight gets a lot of hate on online a lot i mean i don't really necessarily know why i'm not why but i don't necessarily surly know what it is that people online hate on it more but i don't think in real life that they they really like you said it's different when you have face to face with someone who plays fortnight. Are you gonna be like fucking. Fortnight is a bunch of you probably not. You're probably just going to start talking games with them. You know i hate the game because of how like praise on like little kids because the whole micro transaction that these <hes> battle royale games do it's all about like cosmetics and little kids. You know they had the mindset of like oh. You don't have the skin you know while you're not cool like like they're gonna get teased about it and you know so they need to go and like by in game credits to get like a blue box to possibly get the skin or to buy enough in credits to like get the skin if it's on a weekly rotation or something and like and like the that that game targets like that's why putting forth nine it has made so much. How do you think a free game has made so much money just because it's because the kids you know and that's why i don't like the game because it's directly targeting kids and and that's what they're doing with these lou boxes and like the skins and all other stuff but i mean it is what it is you know so right. It is what it is and i'll tell you what seems to be my perspective and the way i see it as like what you just said makes a lot of sense and i can totally agree with that. It does target kids in it. There's you know you hear stories about <hes> <hes> what is it called like online gaming addiction some kids of went through because of a fortnight and luke boxes and all kinds of other crap that they're talking about but i think that translation one of why people dislike dislike fortnight kind of gets lost as people go online because i've seen a lot of people say that that they disliked the game because kids play which that's kind of an asinine statement in and of itself because video games if they're for anybody that for kids you know what i mean. I'm not every game is for a child but for night come on that game is for kids you know even if you're an adult you can enjoy it but you do have to realize the fact of the matter is a lot of kids display and that's it's the game of generation for them. It's like an a. b. It's going to be the call of duty of this generation by far. You know i mean all you deduces. Look at like the average j._j. Tournament i mean like that's that's obviously who's playing that game. I mean you don't really see that. Many young people like that like at the at yvo yvo no you know every now and then you'll get like a fourteen fifteen sixteen year old or whatever but it's rare yeah you know and also there's not a lot of money when you win like like a fighting game tournament and the evil has been around for a lot longer but there's just no i mean there's just no money in like fighting game germans a lot of it's grassroots kind of stuff. Have you know so. I mean you win money but it's not like it's not three million dollars. I'll tell you the no it's not and that just i think that's a reflection of how big fortnight is as a whole i it's it's they can afford to do whatever they want and if they wanna make some of their players who are really good into millionaires epic's going to do that. The funny thing is though like how you you were saying <hes> people finding all the soft and fuzzy stuff when they want to end the f._t._c. and then shitting on it when they feel appropriate when affiliates appropriate after the a fortnight epoch competition where the the people were made millionaires that the kids were made millionaires. I seen a lot of stuff online e tweets on even tweets on on just just on my regular twitter feed. Dude were <hes> kids. Were like all of the sudden. My parents are like so happy that i play fortnight all damn day. They wanna buy me snack accent me in front of the t._v. And encouraged me to play fortnight all damn day. What's going on here. People find people people find the soft and fuzzy see things. If that's what you want to call winning three million bucks you know what i mean all of a sudden you know it's it's strange so i mean gene oh and then i can't remember if i mentioned sonics one the mortal kombat mortal combat eleven so congrats to him. He's just his way. They dominates like now the rome like games. You know like mortal kombat. Injustice is just ridiculous. I mean can you just can't touch him. When he plays people like he's like he's lost but you know but i mean like most of the time like you just watch like his movements and everything and like his timing. He's just like another level like it's just like you can't even you came in touch him. I mean he's just to watch. It's that kind of stuff yeah. He's he's on unstoppable but the dragon fighters final was like really good so congressional one you know and uh uh like i said you know like i'm not trying to crap on sonic fox. He's awesome. I'm a fan of his but you know it's people need to realize that like it's not it's like this isn't like a every time thing enjoy while it's here yeah but i mean like i said dude you know i we don't even have to justify justify what we say about this because just go back to our old episodes last year's episode we were all over the sonic fox team winning a book and it was a controversy. The way he won last year wasn't it. I think it was a lot of people the f._c._c. thought it was two people. Were talking about it a lot but i mean you know but you know my point. Is that we we've. We've followed this for over. You followed it for fucking years. I've followed it for at least a couple of years because we have the show as far as like the indepth competitions so yeah we we're. We are definitely on fox fans. I mean we're not oh yeah. It's just we have a little bit of insight as to what the f._t._c.'s really about out which a lot of people may not have <hes> but that's why you should come listen to the allies available on spotify stitcher apple podcast google guests only good stuff boom home soundcloud and <hes> she's on soundcloud. It's like tokaido got eliminated early in the street fighter five of like bracket he <hes> he won the twenty seventeen yvo streetfighter five and then he got second place last year and then he got forty ninth place this year damn so he got eliminated related really early but i mean should happen. You know like i it's it's it's not surprising because of the fact that the sports that that happens in all sports you know what i mean in our it it <hes> i mean it's just one of those things where it's just like well. I mean you know not much you can do but it's just it's crazy because he is so he's so good you know and so you would you expect him into to make a showing to be in the top eight showing yeah and then <hes> you know it yeah. It's just it's crazy. You know that he didn't make it to like even like the top like twenty or ten like but that's just shows you like the level of like like dislike competently competition like the discipline you also have to have to like. He is a top player. He's wall known you know what i mean like. Totally you can literally just like google like his name and watch videos of of him and you can study like him like every day all day with with if you're against him you know i mean if you're like the other person person like. How is he going to study you if your this is your first tournament like he doesn't know what you're gonna do like. He doesn't know who you're going to pick. What kind of shrugged we're gonna use that character. You know so you like being a top player. It's like it's hard. I mean it's like you gotta. Let me you've got to know everything and anything about that game. The characters everything it's crazy easy you know the amount of like focus. You have to have and so like him placing like so low. You know like a forty-ninth like it's just like i mean it. It just shows you like also like the competition. Of how fighting games are you know now when somebody who with his caliber like came in break into like the top ten you know totally. I mean it it it. It's kinda like boxing. You know the the up and comer can like study the reels of of a champion they can they can game them. You know what i mean yup even looking at like stuff. Now <hes> like the top eight for yvo in sri fighter is a lot of you know i think as as as it gets bigger i would be happy to and i hope that a lot more people get get at least to the status of i don't want to say celebrity but at least to the status of competitor as a competition fox in what is it. How do you say his name. Go yeah. They've obtained you know because we need more of this. It's not like an even and i'm i'm gonna say it because it's true true even the kids who went on the fortnight shit. We need more names that that big for east sports you know it it just all it only helps it. Only helps is pro push forward east sports and make it more of a mainstream thing and i don't see anything wrong with eastwards becoming a mainstream thing. I mean fuck dude. Why not fuck. It's it's if you think about it if everything goes well and n._f._l. Keeps going the way it goes in later on down the line. There's gonna be fucking virtual football ball virtual n._f._l. So that motherfucker won't begin concussions in lifelong brain injuries. You know what i mean yeah. So who knows you know you madden madden or a football. All american football type of simulator hooked up to some kind of fucking athletes who know the game. Maybe the thing of the future you never know true you know. It's you know it's a trip. Do you fucking brought it right now for this whole half hour and we end the show right now and be like boom episode in the books and it's fucking kick ass episode but we're going to stick to the topic video games and <hes> we're going to move along to the ninja story now. Let me tell you. I read enough of what i needed to to read about this shit today. <hes> it seems like the ninja story is having a it's. It's having an effect. It's man and i i. I'll be straight up on his. I had no idea what the fuck mixer was until this happened until ninja. Okay basically what happened. Is microsoft owns something. That's called mixer. Mixer is what could potentially be a competitor for twitch. Twitch is is like streaming service where we obviously video games are on their podcasts are on there now. A lot of different things are on twitch but it's it's. It's mainstay can video games and streamers. Who do that a lot of interaction with your with your fan base. A lot of back and forth money is made by you know different means in it's it's it's becoming an ecosystem that that a lot of i would say a lot of <hes> technology has to catch up not really catch up with but has to be regulated in terms of like who's going to go where what's going to happen and w- what kind of things are going to be legal in terms of making money and how all that kinda shit shit. It's it's crazy the amount of economics that has gone into twitch and streaming services in it for live streaming video games dude i was blown away by that and obviously ninja signing with microsoft's and undisclosed agreement so we don't know what he got. A lot of people are speculating that he got stock options. He he got offered <hes> the same amount that he would be making on twitch for the next few years. <hes> a lot of people are speculating that ninja seen his career career peak already and that he was moving over to mixer in order to secure his his future in in you know be able to stream things things other than fortnight which honestly dude it just blows my mind that like all this shit has developed this. This far is so fast with regards to these two streaming beaming services and there's not there's there's more than just mixer and twitch but for you and i we can discuss until the fucking cows come home you know but yeah it when when i think about it and if it hits on when it really hits home is like. Should you know you hire trying to not. We're not trying to write rival any fucking streamers or anything but we're trying to bring the outliers to some sort of streaming channel. Do you think we should consider mixer. I think from my understanding <hes> they have this thing called co streaming dude. I think <hes> i dunno one microsoft like can suck ass okay well. We the allies do have disagreements occasionally folks. This is one of them. I i <hes> since windows ninety eight. I have and that's nineteen ninety eight. I have been a staunch supporter of microsoft through the attempted break-up by the the government. I have been a staunch supporter of microsoft and all their practices. I declined mike claim to the settlement that was offered me after the break-up was attempted by the government because i was not. I didn't need to take their money or anything. So i support microsoft. I will admit microsoft as a company <hes>. I i think the most valuable company in the world not valuable but they they're like worth quite a bit more more money than twitch. <hes> it's up in the trillion. I think i think about what nine nine point seven billion or some matt and i'm sorry amazon owns twitch. I shouldn't say twitch so amazon is like at about nine point. Seven billion and microsoft is like one point three trillion. It's around there those estimates my point is i support microsoft and all this shit they do also i. I do know that they buy up random shit and they destroy it they by random shit and it goes to shit because microsoft should be doing is focusing on making windows a lot easier to port over to new machines when you build new machines because that she gets annoying having to buy window yes it does i. I like how microsoft used to be when they were having their hands and everything that having been said mixer seems like i don't know man. I'm i'm inclined to say mixer seems like a kosher alternative to twitch zhou because of some of the features they have but you. I know you have a different opinion because you've told me that that is like the fuck and when you get punished from twitch you go to mixer yeah i mean i feel like i think twitches. I mean i think mixer is more like juvenile. Harsher rules rules. I mean it's more of like it's. I'm going to release say they're harsher. It's more like ridiculous stuff and it's mostly dress code stuff. What do you mean like dress code like okay. You can't tit stream on there. Is that what you're trying to say so okay so for example sample like their focus on like cleavage right really this is this is this is what we're talking about. I was but okay yes so like yes yeah so like here's the thing so radio ratings specific clothing guidelines family friendly stream clothing must covering the entire visible body from a few inches above the the bus line it cannot be strapless and show little to no cleavage teen stream clothing can review more than a hint of cleavage but still covers the entire visible body cannot be strapless list eighteen upstream. The chess must be covered from the bus line to the end of the ribcage no under cleavage so basically like you can have like under boob but i mean i don't even think you can. How would you even know if somebody under unless like they. They're showing you under yeah like obviously <hes> oh you you mean. How do they detect it. I'm being sarcastic like even know. I'm seriously trying to contemplate how you're right. How would they how do you know i mean what if it's like what if a streamer streaming on mixer and they they have their with their within the guidelines for the lower level one but they reach for something you know a grow reaches for something off camera and like you see a flash of under bennett's completely just because she's reaching for something. You know what i mean yeah. Ours is mixer really that fucking weird. I'm trying to find more o'hara go well. Let me find what you're gonna. Find so here's so here's the eighteen upstream more stuff interesting so clothing that shows the midriffs such as crop tops are allowed a strapless tops. This is eighteen strapless. Only the top can be cl- only the top can be clearly seen on camera. No one should have to guess if the streamers wearing clothing so basically like if you wear a strapless top. You have to show the shirt so it. You can't just be sitting there and it looks like you know you just don't you're not wearing a shirt because because people people do this thing i guess no they do they totally do <hes> and then <hes> situational appropriate clothing is allowed swimmer that is considered acceptable acceptable at a family beach is acceptable when it swimmer that is considered a hook swimwear that is considered acceptable at a family beach is is acceptable when at a beach pool or participating sporting events i guess you can wear a bikini poughkeepsie bathing suit yeah because keating bikinis are became bathing meeting. Susan are acceptable at the beach but a speech volleyball yeah here we go body areas defined shoulders breast bone the area bressanone i phone yet the area on the body between the breasts so your sternum yeah yeah the home line on male presenting and female presenting this is the whitest area below the shoulder fucking a mate or what mail presenting this sounds like fucking discovery and above the ribcage where brawler or pasties would be worn ribs the bone ribs the bones that protect our insides guys <hes> okay yeah oh and here we go never allowed. These activities will get your account suspended or banned nudity. Duh shirtless regardless of male presenting or female presenting persons think presenting means like streaming <hes> outside of the words for them outside the appropriate settings so it's an appropriate setting for some shirtless. Well okay so do they. I mean i guess because i know twitch has the r._l. Right where they where people walk around in stream. I guess that's true yeah shirts but see that's what i was trying to determine at. The beginning of this is like and i looked a little bit. <hes> looked it up a little bit before we did the show. It's like what's the difference between mixer and twits. It's like i don't even know of mixer has ira which i guess it does because to have those kind of guidelines where you're you're going to be like a scenario appropriate or what is it environment pro appropriate yeah. You must have some kind of i._r._l. I guess i mean okay so that's a big. Is that a big difference. Is that like a big departure. From what twitch does those rules. I mean not really not really yeah. I mean it's fighting some red red lights. It's it's basically it's basically search. Will it's like the same thing but everybody's just like oh. They got all this other stuff and you know but here's here's the thing it's not like. It's not really like that because okay like nobody's what he's really been on mixer and they haven't and they have they haven't really been in the limelight now. So like people like aren't like people aren't on there and so now all of a sudden they're going to have like this huge influx of people because ninja coming you know not just people like who are watching coaching by people who are possibly using the platform now so like now. It's like okay so are you actually better than twitch slick when somebody fucks up or doesn't something stupid like. Are you actually going to take action or you're going to just like let it slide like twitch does with some people so now it just now like the pressure's going on and like i get like they're trying to you like like they're trying to do a really good right now or whatever but it's just really funny to me you know i mean. Do you think that they're do you think that bringing ninja to their platform is gonna uh bring enough spotlight to mixer to where the decisions they make with regards to those rules are going to be like news like seriously. You know what i mean because they have ninja now. Oh a to a mixer streamer gets banned for showing titi or a mixer. Streamer gets banned for playing a prank. That was really fucked up. You know like dude. You don't see that happening just because they bought me just because they bought ninja. You know what i mean. They're they're not that big. I i don't think no yeah but i mean i i looked up the differences and i found this really interesting article. I'll tell you what it's on. A website called. Tom's guide five ways mixer beats twitch and these are interesting not to think about. I mean my question at the beginning of this. This mixer twitched conversation was should we attempt to stream to mixer now that this is happening what is mixture in in in general <hes> mixers microsoft's platform microsoft owns it. It's a first party thing for them. So if you're like say it makes it a lot. Go to stream from xbox live an xbox one <hes> and all that bullshit. It's just an overall better experience <hes> if you have if you're trying to stream on twitch from the xbox one you're going to need a connect so that you can have the camera going if you're using mixer though it supports any any webcam so that's a huge difference the bat for xbox one users. You know what i mean. It makes it so much easier to just use any web cam. I mean that's that's because it's a it's a in house thing for them. They they don't they don't they're not gonna make it difficult for people who are using their own shit and that's that's a staple of microsoft stuff that microsoft has been playing those kind of games since back when <hes> netscape scape was around and they were using internet explorer fuck fuck over netscape <hes> which i don't agree with it i it's a level playing field. Netscape just died <hes> they have. This thing called coast streaming makes broadcasting more social which was interesting to me because mixers co-starring feature allows up to four broadcasters to simultaneously stream their gameplay to a single location the features it's perfect for for letting audiences see each player's point of view during during a match you can cochrane with friends directly from on the xbox like you can put together like a four person production if you really wanted to without like a lot of technical stuff because it's all built in twitch kind of rolled out some similar called squad <unk> squad streaming but it's it's that is only limited to to twitch partners which means you have to be established on twitch and making money yeah <hes> <hes> i guess it's more interactive as far as watching <hes> some of the unique features. It has our focus on interactivity. Their platform gives broadcasters the the option to offer special controls to their viewers which i think that's that's a twits thing too but with mixer audiences like vote on important story choices in savior playing a game <hes> audience can vote on like you know story choices that you're gonna make or they can trigger special audio effects with the soundboard which i mean it's going to be game specific obviously <hes> and even twitches having similar style type of stuff with the as regards interactivity. It's called extensions feature but mixer. Serhiy apparently has been doing it since since day one for them. I don't know the mixer also has something called hype zone which gets makes like highlight reels of of all the stuff that's being streamed on there like say chant that something's going on in like player known battlegrounds or fortnight or apex. It's like game winning. Kills are being the show a mixture apparently hype zone cha- channel will <hes> it'll break it all down and give you the those scenes only so you'll see the final moments of matches isn't stuff like that also they have some kind of x. P. system where you can get a multitude of unlikable digital stuff. I guess that's a big thing for twitch which though to <hes> emotes and badges and crap like that where you can spend money you can even by the i guess mixers way of of making money for their streamers includes <hes> certain like certain things called embers which is a premium currency <hes> viewers can purchase and did they purchase that with real money and it's so they can support their favorite streamers stuff like that so there's there's a lot of incentive for people to use mixer now ninjas there so i don't i know if that translates directly to an incentive or what but what do you think i mean when we start because i'm going to build this computer and we're gonna fucking throwing shit up somewhere. Yeah i mean should we test the waters with sure what the fuck is going on there. I don't know that co streaming shit sounds kinda. Cool man out of the do like more research into mixer because i just i don't know enough like i knew of it like i never that's hilarious dude. I mean nobody are like well. I don't know what what makes me. Nobody really used it or wrote about mixer yeah like they never like. They never streamed on it. Really you know because i know it's a big thing with like microsoft and like xbox because has obviously they own it so like mixtures like really prevalent like on xbox bud. I mean most people stream on twitch twitch. I mean that's just like how what is see. The thing is that i was thinking though is like twitches twitch seems like it already has like a big disconnect between superstar streamers streamers in like the everyman streamer like you're either gonna be in the fucking elite category of streamers on twitter. You're going to be just fucking part of the fucking peons peons mixer now. I'm not even sure that fucking the environment in mixer like there as as of like now the only the huge streamer there is the one they purchased which is ninja right like obviously because you you haven't even heard of anybody on mixer. Oh no no not at all. That's what i think. I think it's good that ninja will bring attention to the platform warm but at the same time like but is it just a blip or is it like going to be a solid rise. Will i guess it just depends it depends how people take to to you know if if microsoft is able to use ninjas like the spear to like push their stuff together like i mean that could be great you know and and also like if ninja like as part of his exclusively with mixture got some sort of like some sorta like developmental control like he can work with them i._p. Pie i yeah well like if he can work with <hes> you know mixer to like improve them as platform as a service than i mean that might be great you know because they can definitely use him and his knowledge you know with what works i mean that makes sense but i've i read a lot of stuff about people who are. I guess that's what i was talking about earlier about the economics of these kind of things. It's like just because they bought ninja. Does that mean that the people who are ninjas viewers on twitter gonna necessarily like migrate are they just going to go to the next big twit streamer streamer because there is not a shortage of people who are doing what ninja does on twitch on a surprise surprise. Everybody like who wants to do something. Eighteen big on twitch is doing trying to emulate like people like ninja so and and it's not like i mean it's not as cut and dry as i as i kind of characterized actor is it right now. There are people there streamers who are just as you know not just as influential but they're on par with like the bigger version the bigger a category of streamers on twitter so if ninja goes the mixer and people who are hardcore ninja fans say they don't have any interest in going to miss her they they were. It's it's been you know speculated that they will just stay with twitch and migrate to a new streamer that they like because of the fact that that that stream it does basically the same thing as ninja in. I mean so clear whether or not this is going to be a blip or it's going to be like a steady rise for mixer the i mean i don't know i would be depending on the features that it offers. I i mean i think i think we should look into it but i don't know i think i mean and we're trying to get. I mean if we get huge huge but we're not trying to like be fucking the hugest fucking twitch stream. We're just trying to grow the outliers brand but i'm and i obviously i'm thinking of this in terms of us as opposed to like being viewer because i mean i'm not going to be just like tuned into twitch random of the fuckers playing video games games. You know that's nothing. I think <hes> i think it depends like <hes> you know like how how long it takes for her like him going over there to like figure out you know like is he is so if it is ninja being on mixer. Is it gonna completely like take off like soon or is it gonna take awhile because like you said how. How many people were following him over there so i i mean just it. It entirely depends you know. I say people won't really know on for like until like a few months because obviously the initial move is going to have a huge response because it's such a crazy thing but after that's when it kinda like that's when you'll start to see like what the actual reality of it is like like was just like you said like a one time thing like a blip or was a like it. Did it stay. I mean you know the funny thing is either way. Ninja made some fucking cash josh bro oh yeah either way he made money. You know it's if he's locked in and he's making and he's already has the contract. I mean what the fuck is. Microsoft is going to do with mixer. If it doesn't work out you know if i think the thing that would have to happen is other top twitch streamers and i mean the tip top twitch streamers would have have to migrate over there not in droves but they would at least have to have a good portion of the top streamers migrate over there to have a chance you know. I don't think they can just buy one. I don't think they can just is by the top streamer and then be like twitches fucking ultimate competition i don't i don't see that happening. Although i think it would be nice to have that i think it's <hes> i think it's a like i move of them trying trying to be competition like they're taking the first step to you know trying to acquire like in be on a level playing field <hes> it's kind of like <hes>. It's like back in like the wrestling days with like the monday monday night warriors win w._c._w. Bodily like hulk hogan and they signed like hogan signed. Macho man started in <hes> yeah. We'll i'm talking about more wrestlers jumping ship you know and like you know w w became like they kind of got more serious into competing when they signed like people like roddy piper hogan <hes> macho man randy savage like they they signed all the in unlike kevin nash and scott hall who obviously became the end of your with hogan and then you know like w._b. Signed like chris jericho look i who was like the one big the first big like major star and then you know more or people came over later but i mean you know like a could definitely kickstart like competition. Competitions always good like that's just yeah. I mean that's just how it is so i want. People like should want mixer until like be really well like i i like want mixer to be like really good in like supportive of their creators and get rules together in actually you know like like get their shit together when it comes to like disciplining their streamers with how twitch always seems to be getting in trouble of like not really doing and i mean maybe now like they don't want to because they don't want people to go to make certain turn right. They'd be like fuck it. Do what you want yeah so i mean i don't know like if i mean who knows it's it's going to be interested in definitely to see like how goes it was further you know and how mixture grows or if it doesn't if it just stays what it is. It's just an alternative. I totally agree. I think this is just the beginning of what what's going to happen with streaming and for all we know twitch end mixer could go under because some other bad ass fucking person with a bad ass. Streaming idea just comes with a new brand dan. You never know i mean it might not it might not all be on the shoulders of the influencers you know there may be some innovator out there with a new platform that is just going to blow everything away. You never ever know it's hard to say true. It's totally true. <hes> we're at the hour mark where exactly at the hour mark this has been the outliers podcast everyone we are gonna be i think next week <hes> there's a lot of personal stuff going on in the back in the back like the behind the scenes for us right now especially for me <hes> and yano we're like this is episode one thirty seven. I believe we all know that we were solid with regards to consistency <hes> for the sake of of not being up in the air next week. We're going to skip it and we're going to go into another biweekly schedule so next week no outliers unless zay a wild hair up my ass and i go through the old fan mob and published i might do it. I will let us know on twitter i might do it depends on how i'm feeling what we got going on <hes> because like i said i got a lot of stuff that involves a doctor's appointments and whatnot <hes> no sympathy because it's all good stuff for now but that's where we're at and i don't. I don't wanna like bullshit. Y'all like oh. We'll be back next week like we usually are. We have a huge back catalogue. We just got onto soundcloud and all the we're like tool. We just went onto all the streaming services services. Go check our shit out. Yeah basically <hes> so if you like what you heard i would advise you to go. Check out last year's evil coverage that we did <hes> <hes> hit us up on. Let's see i tunes are apple. Podcast google play podcast google play music soundcloud. Full catalog is on soundcloud spotify defy. Everything's there iheartradio. It should be up tune in radio should be up stitcher for damn sure that's my choice. 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Starting 9 Episode #94 - No Hitters, Sales Renaissance and Cubs Walk-Offs

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Starting 9 Episode #94 - No Hitters, Sales Renaissance and Cubs Walk-Offs

"Walk back to starting nine episode ninety four their Dallas lemme. Let me just tell you. How I started my morning. Yeah. Woke up to a text message from my father. And you know, what that text message said Dell. I don't remember what you got said. I don't know. Why you would remember you weren't there? That's oh. Sorry. He text me. And he says, hey, just the you don't forget today is the anniversary of Dallas's perfect game. It's almost like it's more per than like your birthday. They hate 'em. Forget Dallas birthday today. My dad wanted to make sure that I didn't forget that. And I didn't I knew that today was the versity my. Yeah. Patrice yell. He made sure that we were well aware that it was the anniversary of Dallas Braden's perfect game that happened in the actual big leaks. Like it was a major league game sanctioned by the Commissioner of the league. Two teams were their players were on the field fans are fans, plural. I guess it was plural. We're in the stands. Yeah. And it was Dallas as. As you sit here today in twenty nineteen sitting in an apartment building in Oakland. Did you ever think walking off that mound looking up seeing your grandma giving her a big old hug afterwards? Thinking grim someday. I'm gonna do a podcast with Jag corrobos. Ahead. I had such visions of grandeur Jared. I had I had a. I had a life set out for myself to be totally honest. There's there is a trajectory. I take myself back to two thousand ten no point does two thousand ten Dallas have twenty nineteen L sitting down with you on a consistent basis in order to talk about baseball. I feel like the outlet the outlet might have had a different ending in my head this this played out a little differently. Not exactly how you draw up. If we're being completely Frank. I'm not complaining. This is. I'll never forget it tears tears streaming down her face. And she whispers Dallas, this is it this is our ticket. This is our ticket to do a podcast with the rocket. This is nobody would dare dream this big. Yeah. It which some aim for the moon. This was this was me aiming to do just completely encapsulate the universe in my hand. And obviously this was somewhat of a special week for the Oakland A's because Mike fires throws. No hitter, number two. And you got to call that. And you got all the the shod Mnaya. No hitter April of last year. Yeah. That's for it one year later, Yokel nays. They I saw someone being like, yeah. No wonder the as have all these no hitters at home. It's because of all the foul territory. I went back and watched the highlight reel of Mike fires no-hitter. It's not like guys were fucking floating out twenty feet on the foul lines that catch pop up, saving, it know, give the guy credit. Full default argument. That's a default argument. People people always go to that argument. Yeah. Foul territory had nothing to do with Mike. Fires spinning the gym that he spun it had nothing to do with that whatsoever. It was. Yeah. Was a non factor. I don't wanna say it was a non factor, but it was a non factor. Val territory. Had nothing to do with what? Mike fires in the Oakland A's rebel to accomplish go back and look at the tape. There's there's one ball that sort of went over some Dandari's, but laser Ramon went up and got it. Scum back. Come on. Are you fucking kid me? The dude is ridiculous. It is ridiculous. As looking at your Instagram, Dallas. I think it was it before the no hitter. There's some there's there's a video that you put on your Instagram before the game of Laureano out in centerfield throwing rocket on like on the fly to third base. And then you just start laughing. Because like, and honestly, I swear to God I half the time. I'm at the baseball field. I wish there was video of people videoing me video the shit. I was seriously. I was watching this unfold. I'm I'm I'm watching what's about to happen. And I'm thinking to myself. He's about to I promise you he's about to just let this fucking thing. Fly and I'm going to sit here and be like I wish I had it on video. So I was fumbling around trying to get my phone out in time because I had all the time in the world to get my phone out. But but then I see what's about to happen. And I'm just watching it on like fuck. So if I get my phone out, and I'm like, please, please. Please just please. Do this few times in please do something? Awesome. And sure enough first time buck and Binks seed, and I'm just like no way. This is gonna credible is stupid because I was just in like that wasn't the only time that happened. And it looked like that out of the I don't know ten balls. He might have thrown over to third base. Yeah. Fuck it six of them. Matt Williams didn't even have to move. Just don't don't don't don't online. It was impressive. So take us through the no hitter. Obviously, this is it's it's history. Someone someone actually I didn't have to think about the answer to this question and Dallas you obviously can't answer it because the answer to you is obvious Jay and the office yesterday. Somebody said to me would rather have two no hitters or one perfect game. That is easy. Yeah. Like, it's a no brainer. Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you don't even have to think about it. No not in an instant like no hitters. They fall from the sky perfect game three hundred or whatever of them. There are twenty three perfect games. Correct war. People have thrown multiple no hitters than have thrown a single perfect. How many how many multiple thirty five which was the most shocking stat to come out of Mike Myers performance to me? I couldn't believe that seventy of the three hundred no hitters of all time have been accomplished by this like by a group of thirty five pitchers. That was amazing to me. Do they count? I'm sure they do do they do they count a perfect game as a multiple no hitter like his burly count. So know they and the only reason I'm going to answer this is because this came up last night. Like in the in the conversation that we're having regarding this very topic. And it was separated. So it was the twenty three and then it was the three hundred and like fifty or whatever, and it's a total of three hundred seventy something. Got it. So yeah, I mean anyone that has rendered seventy seven or some shila anyone who has to think about that question because I guess that was sort of the argument is that you know, there's thirty five pitchers who have thrown two no hitters than there's twenty three perfect games. Like at least it was like close and you've had two good days of work as opposed to one. But I don't know. It's if you throw a perfect game that is the upper pantheon of pitching accomplishments. Dallas you get more nervous watching a no hitter. As it's developing because you can really kinda put yourself in that situation or do you or does that make you feel less like what is your experience? How does that impact? How you view. Mike fires on second. Honestly. It kind of feels it kind of feels like a a blessing into curse at the same time. Gonna get kind of weird on you the green mile. Have you guys seen the movie the green mile? Yes. And if you haven't the premise is essentially that this individual was blessed with long life, but the blessing is also a curse because you're going to outlive everybody and spoiler alert. If you haven't seen this twenty five year old fucking movie. But so he's blessed in a way that he's experiencing the life. But he's cursed in a way that he'll never ever get to get to shed that. He will always be wearing that he'll always be bearing that cross if you will the loss of life. They'll never get to just experience it on his own. So I almost like I get to. Yeah. Sure. It's fucking outstanding. Because I've been there, I know what's going on. But it's like, I I'd really like to watch the whole game, and it feels like buck and can't because I like I like Kuyper broadcast partner glade is telling the story last night on the post game show. You know, I wouldn't let him go to the bathroom. He's like he's going to get off the headset like inbetween. Okay. I'm going to. And I just I didn't even look at him. And I just reached my arm out and fucking grabbed him and didn't even say a word, and he was like got cool not going to the bathroom. I'm not going to be paying until like fires gives up a knock with rose fucking hitter fairly. And I then watched the ninth inning facing the back of the booth staring at our stat guy and our stage manager because I am a nervous fucking wreck. And it like I don't even light saying it because it makes me feel like a little bitch. But I just like I don't wanna even if I feel like I look at the ball. I'm gonna fuck this up for and I can't I can't do that. And like I'm trying to like call the game and be a broadcaster at the same time. I'm losing my shit because I still find myself being that giddy that much of a fan now. Now, you know, like I have felt myself make that I guess full transition from player to media, head type, whatever the fuck, and I don't look I get it. I'm a fan, and I get to watch baseball. I'm a super fan because they get paid to watch fucking baseball. So yeah, I it's a struggle for me to not want to fuck it up as a fan. But also try to make sure the fan experience at home is exactly what it should be. If you're spending your evening watching a ballgame with me, it's my job to make it as cool as fuck impossible. And it was all dude. It was it was it was incredible, man. It was he the defensive plays in the sixth inning alone. We're just like outta here. I think it was a six may have been the eighth inning of a profile. Lays out makes us sick catch in shallow right field. And then obviously vodka comes up. And you're just like all right. This is the last we wanna pride. Now. We don't want him to have to hit again, the fuck deep flies center. And I love my hands are on my head. I'm like come on like this, really. It was the last outs wires you hito on a filthy Koerbel. That ball gets that ball gets hit and vodka is just kind of not posing it up. But he's kind of he gives it that fucking dog. Confused head tilt like that's probably God. So. Just like you gotta be fucking shit me right now Dallas on for that play. I don't know. I I don't think so because I'm up in the booth. I I wouldn't even know where that camera is fuck, I hope not. Because I was losing my mind. I was thought they usually have you done on field level. Yep. But this this. I do do games down on the field level. And then I'll do games where it's just myself up in the booth. And so this is one of those time periods where it's me up in the booth just myself and Glenn Kuyper. So I was down on the field. And I pray to God. They don't have a camera looking at me in the in the booth because I was acting a fool like I was it was it was pure insanity. To me, I'm not gonna contain myself. I can't contain myself kidney the kids do shit like that on on a nightly like that like for an appetizer. I'm watching him throw baseballs three hundred feet on a fucking the line. And then for the main course, he's just snagging preserving would be homers. No hitters booking serious, man. Come on. There's always that one play in every no hitter. What was what was the one place? I feel like there is. There were played who's playing first as Derek Barton. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like he picked a few at first base was was there like a highlight reel play though. I feel like it was mostly just shit throws God dug up by Barton. No there there. And we talked about this little bit. But Kuzin off Kevin coups off made a great play in territory. And he made he made that play like closer to the dugout, but I talked to him all the time. Because I was there waiting for the ball, and I have to stop and let the athlete Ptolemy all author. And I remember talking shit to him as he's catching this fell ball or he caught the foul balls like stealing my fucking glory. You kidding me? And you know, we had a good laugh about it. But that was really like the beginning of the I always go back to play. I think it was like late in the game of a hardline drive off the bat of deandre Navarro like a line drive out to left field and Eric Patterson was playing field for the very first time in his in his career. And that's happened a lot I had taught Walker playing first base for the first time in his entire life and my major league debut couple guys playoffville tire. So, but yeah, there was no like super ridiculous place. I mean, just you know, a ton of great defense played a ton of high level bigly. Caliber defense. Played binding. Yes. Yes. There's always one just some couple couple of news and notes the cub. Have kids. Might fires before we get going here. I because I I know this to Mike, and I know this to every kid out there who is thumbing through their Twitter time line and their Instagram feeds, and you're seeing a lot of these velocity farms promoting the idea of a law city, and they might even be instilling, a false sense of insecurity in you. Individuals who aren't yet lighting up the radar gun who are blow in triple digits. You're not walking out with hundreds in the back pocket that doesn't mean you can't be a big leader. That does not mean that Kyle Hendricks just through an eighty one pitch complete game. Never touching ninety miles an hour might fires albeit having ninety three or whatever when he needed to go get it never ever once through four or five fastballs ninety four miles an hour or harder. And he just punt his second no hitter at the big league level. This was a guy who brought his own fucking catcher. To try out to get himself ready to become a professional. Okay. There's just not many that are cut like that. And I'm sure if you're listening to this podcast is a good chance, you are cut from that kind of clot. So keep grinding that fucking acts and don't let the radar gun deter you from what your goal is while velocities important. It's not what's going to make or break you as a big leaguer. If that is inside of you it helps it's not the deal. So don't be discouraged. Preach don't let the radar gun to find you. That's right. You to rocket. The cubs another walk off. I mean, it's the Marlins but still some specialists happened over there in Wrigley. This team was they were five hundred not this past weekend. But the weekend before now, they're just being everybody's ass. I think they're five games under five hundred a couple of different times. This has been a team that we talked about this on the last podcast. This has been a team that I felt like got complacent last year. This was a team that on paper we were talking about hobby by as again, we we still should be talking about hobby by as you know, this is he's probably been there there one constant this season. But it's great to see Kris Bryant sort of coming out of it because he he's gotten off to a slow start. But obviously he was my pick is my pick for nationally give EP this year. I feel like this is when we when we talk about the cubs. We immediately go to hobby by as you know, he's he deserves that over the last couple of years, but I think we've all sort of forgotten just how good Kris Bryant can be and has been at this level. So he was responsible for the first walk off last night. They walk off the Marlins after blow in the lead in in the ninth inning. So I guess for you guys. Who is the best team in the NFL central because run differential right now would tell you. It's the cubs. The brewers they've had their struggles. The cardinals have been struggling recently. But to start the year where sort of asserting their dominance. A we sort of all in agreement that the the cubs are the best team in the NFL central. Or is that sort of like a it remains to be seen type deal? I think it still remains to be seen type deal. I think it's I think it's easy to be excited about the cubs being the best team. I think it's easy. You can you can make your arguments over sustainability. And how long this group, you think would be able to you know, to against the state of certain level of play as opposed to the other two teams that you've mentioned actually really didn't even mention another team. It's just between the cubs brewers in your head. Apparently, the pirates are not playing baseball in the L central anymore. How much the pirates pay you to hype them up? It's I just like I just I wonder I wonder why the pirates are that much of an afterthought is there is there a person on earth who has the Pittsburgh Pirates emerging as the best team in the NFL central on known. I don't I don't I don't think. So I think well, there's I know of at least four dudes with beards and one of those what are there's wise one of those mothers. I believe the pirates are are the squad. Did we hire? It's when the cubs walked off for the second consecutive night. Jay, Jared dot it up. I'm just answering questions. Look just about the backpack. Walk-ups they've just been hot. Yes. And what what it to the point that you made getting back to the question. Ebony resort and Kris Bryant those two behemoths start to get hot looked lookout lookout. And that's what I think is the bigger. That's what's at play. Here is Kris Bryant being Kris Bryant again, not going through the struggles. Injuries gone and him becoming again, the cornerstone that him and I mean come on. Where's Brizo we need Brizo and co to get back to pumping out souvenirs? That's what we need. And frankly, that's starting to happen. And I think that's where the separate you'll see the separation again this pitching staff at this point in time. Lead by Kyle Hendricks is I mean, they're throwing the shit out of the ball as well. Stroke shrimps down. Right. Trump's hurt. Schroeck on the deal. So I mean, you know, regardless of what that what that bullpen is is going to do. I think the cubs. Yes. I think it's fair to say that the cubs are eighteen that you could get comfortable with seeing finish out. The season is the lead horse in the central. I just think. I think with with the Milwaukee Brewers their offense is it's one to be reckoned with man. It's reckon wits. Aunt good. Glad please was going to say with the end and the pitching staff like I feel like I feel like the offense of the Milwaukee Brewers is enough where you're not necessarily worried about what you're going to get from the pitching staff, you know, that based on what you've seen based on what you think you're going to get that's going to be more than enough for that offense to do its job. Cubs at walk off home runs in back to back games for the first time since. September twelfth thirteenth nineteen ninety eight. Rue those players Orlando Murr said and Mark grace. Race. Pretty crazy that neither of them were Sammy Sosa. Odds would be in his favor. Do we touch on the Red Sox, really fast? I love to touch on their what they did last night. Because I've got I've got an entire friars worth of hot dogs for your ass. Okay. Here we go listen that what is not going to say as say out love to just pass the ball to you, Jay. Because that way there's no Jared was sick enough. The Red Sox. Listen, if we're gonna if we're going to question what's going on with Chris sale? When things look extremely dicey than it is only fair to acknowledge when he goes out and throws eight innings of zero walks and fourteen strikeouts. So that's our tagline starting nine their fair podcast. We're fair he joined Roger Clemens and Pedro Martinez. As the only players in Red Sox history with multiple starts of fourteen. Plus, Drake outs and zero walks. It was his third career. This is amazing to me. It was his third career start of at least eight innings zero walks. Fourteen strikeouts. To then result in a no decision third. The rest of baseball history has seven such starts. Everyone else seven Chris sale three. With fifth pitcher in Red Sox history to throw an immaculate inning, which he did in the seventh. Obviously joining a list of Red Sox. Kimbrell with me. Klay tro o. I remember drove and Pedro. And finally. The Red Sox pitching last night. Twenty two strikeouts zero walks. It is the first time in MLB history, or at least since nineteen eight when the data goes back to this per Andrew Simon that a team has struck out more than twenty batters without issuing a walk in a game. How many times first time? Oh, wow. Making baseball is Serie over here. Good to see their toward all Shipman. Ooh, any thoughts. Any thoughts Dallas on Chris sale being back? I know that you're excited that he just said it in a no, I know you don't understand what that means. And I know maybe some of the listeners don't understand that that means. So I'm I'm gonna let you look that up folks, I'm gonna let you look that up. I'm gonna let you do that homework. And I'm gonna let you type that word in. I'm gonna let you figure out how to spell it never thing. And I'm gonna let you read up on it just like Jared doing right now what the fuck is that? And then you're gonna read and go. Oh, oh, oh, okay. Makes sense. It's an anti inflammatory. Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Right. Yeah. And this is. Coming from a guy who would wake up in the morning and go. No, it looks like we're doing everything right handed till we get to the yard. And then would you know, the toward all very shows up and guess who starting to ballgame just use their left arm now. So I can imagine what a guy who's, you know, rolling out there with eighty nine Indy might feel like if he gets that fits that. Visit from toward all fairy. And now it's fucking ninety nine feeling good. Well, slid Joe Wilson's on his best behaviour now. Just get line, folks. Chris sale put your ticket step right up. Brought to you by tore it all very any folks. I'm not talking shit at all this is completely street legal if I could get my hands on it right now, I would be taking it just because it makes you feel fucking great. It's it's an anti inflammatory that it kind of it kind of turns your tendons into Frank the tank because once it hits once it hits the lib Frank the tank. No, no, no. I I was like I don't want my tendons looking or acting like that from from old school, tore it all. All is to your tins. What beer is to Frank the tank look once it hits your lips. It's. It's gonna say, I don't want my tendons. Claiming ubereats tried to scam me out of two thousand dollars Frank tanks. But up to at least. So so, yeah, that's that's. That's my thought. It's it's. No credit. No. Where do you? What do you? Is that I expect ten plus strikeout game in his last four starts. It's going to one seven three things like forty something strike things. Forty two strikeouts. Last twenty six innings. Is backed Alice. Yeah, I mean, his because you know, what it's gonna take. It's gonna take it's gonna take. It's gonna take a poor outing next time around for everybody to be burning their fucking Chris sale jersey ago. Fuck this guy can't believe it. He sell fucking consistent as fuck. I can't fuck it. Depend on them at all. I can't believe we gave them all that fucking money and then five days from that. He's gonna shove it up somebody's ass, and we're going to be printing fucking t shirts. So Chris sale. I feel I feel bad for the fellow because that's the kind of shit. He needs to do to slap. You fucking chowder faces across the. Hey, I'm still good guys. I'm still gonna I'm still a good baseball player. Can can you just bear? With me. I'm going to there's going to be days where I'm shitty it's going to happen. There might even be a couple of those in a row. But remember who I am just don't don't forget who I am least remember who. I don't fuck and forget who I am. And it takes this kind of performance for Chris sales owned fan base to appreciate him again. That's unfortunate. Because I like Chris sale a lot a lot. So it's it's tough to see this guy have to tread that kind of water have to egg beat like that for all you water Polo's out there and do that. It's tough. Yeah. 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That's promo code starting for ten dollars off your first seek purchase. Doc, Jack props at try, Jeff. Yes. Yes. Let's do it. We got four matchups to talk about right now. Six forty eastern Yankees. Mariners that's J hap-, and that's Mike leak. The line is one point five Yankees. The over gimme the eighties in the over hammer. The over under is nine hammer the over if you have to hammers take both of them and hit the over. I will be going with the Mariners and the over. And that's not that's not an anti. Yankee is no. Oh, it's not it is J hap- being mediocre at best this year against some of right handed. Power bats in a joke of a stadium. Pretty sure the Mariners have hit the most home runs of any team in if not all baseball than at least the American League. I know they have the most homers. So I like the Mariners in the over. Here's two notes for him. The Mariners obviously huge splits in terms of when they win when they lose eight point two runs per game in their wins this season and three runs per game in their losses. The Yankees they lost obviously on Wednesday to the Mariners. They have not lost consecutive meetings of the Mariners over three years. April. Fifteen to the sixteenth twenty sixteen. Pirating cart pirates and cardinals seven fifty eastern. That's Joe musk grove, and Michael wocka, the cardinals are giving one point five and the over under is eight point five, let me drop some nuggets for you. Joe must grove one point two three era in his four road starts this year. And Michael wocka on the flipside five innings pitched or fewer in three of his last four starts. At give give you the pirates in the under. I would like the cardinals and the under- it's time to time to get back on the horse. Buck goes in the end. Rangers and Astros little AL west Texas showdown at eight fifteen eastern tonight, Mike, minor Wade Miley. The Astros are giving one point five and the over under is nine. How are you going on this one Astros in the over? Mike minor now while you're thinking about Mike minor one point four three ERA over his last six starts this. This is Mike major. So look at you, just havens. That's that's why I took pauses because Mike minor's been throwing the ball. Well. Ooh. Minor and Miley. Yeah. Couple southpaws tangling out there and the where they at where that enters. That's and Hugh. On skis, Houston. Yeah. I think I'm probably still gonna roll I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the Astros in the under in a well pitched balking. All right. Feels like Joey Gallo and George Springer hitting home runs every night at this point. Maybe that'll continue. And this is the first time on this next and final match up. This is the first time. I think we've seen this since we started doing prop lock and drop. It is an over under of seven in this next game. Wow. That is that is easily a run and a half by running a half. That's the lowest lives nationals Richhill Corbin. This is a ten fifteen eastern. The dodgers are giving one point five. And as I said before the over under is seven, Patrick Corbin. Maybe this maybe this is factoring into Vegas thinking here zero point seven seven ERA in four starts against the dodgers last season. And and the nationals have scored only seven runs combined over their last four games. Well, here's here's the thing. If the over under was just based on the starters, I'm taking the under. But the back end of the dodgers bullpen has been an issue. The nationals bullpen has been trash all year. I like the dodgers and the over. Those either put it over. I take. The see they just got rid. Don't back sotos not back until this weekend. I believe. The nets do fucking bang. The lefties. Yeah. I think I'm gonna take. I think I'm gonna take the dodgers in the under. We've agreed on nothing. Euro that's good. That's very good. Do we have a track record of our picks J when when should we we need to send out a tweet tracking that okay, although although back compile after this week's episode and see, you know, kind of what our success rate is we need we need to you guys aren't very competitive the two of you. So it'll be a good thing to kind of you on over the courses season. We do we need to make sure because because essentially what we're doing is. We're we're giving you, you know, we're giving you parlays here really is is how that plays out because we're you know, we're giving you two picks at once. It's not a matter of just picking, you know, money line or just picking the over the under this is I mean, you're getting you're getting essentially two winners at the same time. 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Do you hear that? That's the Minnesota Twins comes Cleveland Indians. That. Loaded right now. Minnesota led by nineteen manager of the year. Rocco? Vol deli. Absolutely crush the ball. Boom stick. And if you look at the bay for reference for aliens more number two for a long ago. Often loaded AL in Dong, Eddie Resor, yo. And even with the twins pitching is phenomenal right now with future Siam winter various and darker science this year and the marketing team arrays. Lackey cut her twin win af into this year. And when the motherfucker will series book, I'm happy I'm happy that we lead with twins fan because so my I feel like I well as team has played no one's really given. Their do everyone is spec to is expecting at least four. You know, the I think it's sort of like a balancing Cleveland ends are gonna come up. The Minnesota Minnesota Twins are gonna come down. And I don't know that that necessarily isn't going to happen. But for now, I'm enjoying the Minnesota Twins. Join them. I couldn't be happier that we had that twins over minute lead in because I believe this is real believe the minister told you fuck beginning of the season. I felt like this could be a thing. And I think it's a thing. I think is a thing that can stay thing. He mentioned reasons thing it is a thing. And I think it can still beat. I think it will only grow into a bigger thing. Yeah. Yeah. There's definitely teams that start out hot. And it's like all right. Yeah. Have your month of April? Whatever the Minnesota Twins. We talked about this the additions that they made plus the guys that they already had in house who were prime position to take a step forward. Plus you add in Rocco ball deli. Who's you know, there's a reason why he was in the same spot for as long as he was is a fucking leader. You knows how to guys we should definitely get Rocco on. Rocco? If you're listening come on Hala, I got to see him down spring training is really cool when we Dallas flew home to go be a baby daddy, and I went inside the twins clubhouse. And I mean, this was you know, day whatever still a handful of days on the job for Rocco and rod Karoo is fucking walking around. And I went into the slow like hallway to talk to Rocco in the hallway. And it's just like, dude. Like, what's what's this like for you? Like, this must be this must be like a whirlwind. And all I know is it if it were meet put in a position where it's like, okay. There are some guys like Nelson crew is no crews older than Rocco ball deli without looking. Yeah. I was gonna say it's like you're young first year manager you're being tasked with managing a team in a division that has been run. By the Cleveland Indians for the last X amount of years the expectations for this team or low, but you must be feeling a lot of pressure being that your guy that is brand new to this no experience outside of like, you know, being a base coach in Tampa. And he couldn't have been more calm about it. He couldn't have been more like I can get. I can get a sense. If guys are rattled or not. He is not that got. He was just he was ready for it. So I think at some point we will get Rocco ball deli on the bug cast in when we do you're going to get some insight into a man who is in a prime position to lead the Minnesota Twins back to October baseball. You could say that we might get some perspective on Rocco's modern life. Yeah. Next up. This guy, by the way, props to Adam for talking about a guy who is just not intimidated and will not give up. Three times three times called in into got a little bit better. Because the first one was twelve seconds. So. Glad you're able to fully satisfy this. And let's listen to what you had to say. What what out of Newton queens that? He's talk about my natty red light being fuck day. Mike Purna corner ear the summer for the National League central. Vile young pitching they have one of the best in the league. So far this year headed up by Lewis, Kathy? O your twenty nine at Al winter and our young outfield with Nixon Zo, Robin Thicke taking the rain my friends your point yacht. The we don't let him get hotter. National leagues and trouble. We got Joey Votto he's out on much up all this year and leadoff hitter. But is he always he'll get Hakam the summertime anyway since resting they might be one to compete for that third LA carte spot. And even if they don't there's always next year, right, right? Couple of things. What third wildcard spot has been invented that. I don't know about. I'm sure I'm sure he meant third while. I know what he meant. I just had to throw that out there. And hey, shitty timing. Portia. One table is now ready. Yeah. Great seat for your right here at the Coliseum to get that dick shove down your fucking like five not so much on the red leggings. And I think I think next year next year crepe place. Great places start looking if. On the on the Cy Young pick, though castio. Still very I mean, look it's early. But I don't think it's I don't think it's overzealous. No, it's it's. Anytime you get the performance you got last year from from Blake's nil in a scenario where you're thinking, maybe his team, isn't that greater whatever you could very well just look up at the end of the year and see a performance from Custodio every five days be one that sort of helps keep the reds at a level playing field. And who knows maybe they do surprise, folks. But I think ultimately the take home from this voice mail is you're probably right as a collective unit probably not your year. But. Pretty exciting to see what could steal is going to do. I watched Sonny gray last night. Not great not special five lakhs, easy Radic. But. The Casteel thing definitely something something to pay attention to. Next up. As seven from Connecticut kit for the Mets Homer minute ready. Tops major give the team. I don't care that you the hometown boy from Tom's river, and he has a picture with Derek. You're a Yankees met the vinyl played back in the day like a little bit. But he sucked and said Jay Davis playing the twenty seven year old one for the metric lane thirty something year old even though Jeannie does stupid. Double pop before the fall in the end, he probably like Sinfield singles due to him for Gasol speaking at Oriel. Hey, I'm one prospect two years ago feel the damn book. You're you're in use it twice catchable probably critically follows most. But he does he's have swing colonie. What number you haven't seen play? But he would swing the harder than he does Amelia poster actually, no don't know why we find him again, three years thirty million. Unbelievable. Plus it down the toilet. And then Jason Vargas your so damn all off the team. Get everyone off the team in our THEO. And it says finish. It was nice joins of on. Thank you. Good. Bye. We'll get everyone off the team. It's may nine come on Mets fans keep it together. At least ride it out a little bit longer than that suck. In such a volatile group. One thing. I want to say about that Homer minute. I think he really captured the essence the anger and the speed. Yeah. And as nice, yes, it was nicely paced. You can feel the energy you could feel that it wasn't necessarily planned out. But it was thought out and web it. All right last one thought this one was good too. I really like the variety of teams that were represented in this week's Homer minute radar teams. Some teams that deserves some attention. Here's one of them. What guys? So I wanna know why fuck to keep blue bowl of me left. And right. We get twenty win four teams get there right now. And I don't know what they just got absolutely destroyed by the race. Two games are out after sweeping the eighth in the two games that I'm just lost that I thought Christian Walker was Jesus Christ himself for the first two weeks of the year. He's pretty much disappeared parole. The I mean, he's about as good get right now for us. But I don't know what holes we need to fill and on in law. Like, we're gonna win games. Are we going to compete or are we just gonna fuck and sit in the middle division all year. Thanks, guys. I like the fact that a d backs fans exist be there is that. Hey, are we good or not? 'cause you know, you go out and trade, Paul Goldschmidt. And that's sort of know waving the white flag. But it's at least saying we're moving in a different direction. But if you can still captivate a fan base to say, we might not be too bad like that's not a bad position. But obviously, I I deal the you'd like to have the financial flexibility. If you could go back in time, I'm sure you'd rather take that Grinky money and give it to Goldschmidt. He should be the face of your franchise. But that's hindsight. I like the fact that there is still fans out there that are rooting for the Diamondbacks, and they're invested in in a team that essentially said, hey, we're moving in a different direction. That's a good thing. Do you feel do you feel that way because the debates like if you if you look at the roster? They don't have that like superstar. Yeah, they don't they. And that's and that's why that's why I think the d-box fans are like what fuck who are we because I think they literally or ask themselves at time. Who are we? And it's not like these guys. I and trust me by no means in my calling these guys a no name roster. Absolutely. I know these fucking guys are willing who these guys are my point is these aren't like organizational foundational type pillar type guys there really isn't one of them here Adams Jones was that guy. But not here right now that was in Baltimore, and that was a career ago, frankly, and that's just not the case. So I can understand like aside from the Greek money you're looking at this roster going well, who's our guy who's our booking, dude. And maybe there isn't one. And maybe this is going to be a matter of the sum of all parts being really what gets it done over. The course of an entire season. You don't need that one big superstar to just be the guy that everybody's pitching around or the one guy that gives you a chance to win every five days, and that's it. If everybody's kind of pulling in the same direction and doing the same things and taking care of their job. Who knows you might be able to look up come July, and maybe even closer into September. And see a team that's still still hanging around. Jay, do you have any thoughts on the d backs? I think they are marginally more interesting than I thought they were to start the season. And I don't think that there is a tremendous amount to be excited about that. That's a no on staying power. Then. I don't think they have legitimate staying power. Like, if eighty eighty two eighty two wins gets you second in the west, which I think there's a reality where that plays out that way. Then. Okay. Yeah. You don't think that most likely I don't think it's the most likely scenario, but I do think there's a chance that. That the Diamondbacks are five hundred team. I think there's a possibility that the Rockies are a five hundred team. And while the Padres are more exciting than that. I'm not totally convinced. Someone someone said the Rockies are a better or the Padres are a better story than they are a baseball team right now, which I think there's something to that. I I'm very attracted to what they're doing with paddock and Machado in cheese. And all those, you know, the kind of life friend, Neil. Yeah. Friend mill in Renfro in like, some of these marginally interesting outfielders, but if if they kind of cooled off or kind of slowed into September in the second half of the season that wouldn't totally surprise me because I'm not convinced that they're they're in it to put all in for this year. I just want that last statement, oh from j to be something that grabs people's attention. Because if you're looking at that division and the Arizona Diamondbacks are somewhere in that eighty to eighty two eighty three win range, and you. You look at the rest of that division behind him. If you're Padres fans, you gotta be fucking excited. You have to be excited because the giants are a non factor in that division and the Colorado Rockies are playing the same type of baseball right now. I think that'll change. But at the San Diego in a lotta ways is right now like this is their quote like Nado is now Blackman like a lot of their key. People are are supposed to be at or near there. Primes right now where with the Padres, I think you can say like, yo we we're looking good three or four years down the line to exactly like the Atlanta Braves situation where we're coming. We don't know how soon we've got an idea, but but we show up early. We might surprise you actually get the directions in the address right and chill early. And by the way, the thing that could ultimately separate like the non dodgers portion of the NFL west over the next two to three years is the franchise that decides to invest the most heavily in their product. Right. Because the diamond we've heard about the. Diamondbacks stadium situation their financial situation, quote, unquote. They just unloaded Paul Goldschmidt instead of paying him. They've been trying to get rid of Zach ranking with some level of effort since they signed him, basically. And like if the Padres decide, you know, we're real baseball team. And we're going to have one hundred sixty million dollar payroll than like the future is theirs. Yeah. Should change his quickly. Good Homer minute segment. D-backs Mets and these. Yeah. Oh, yeah. What group shout out to the grounds crew for bringing it in the Homer minute. Speaking of bringing though. When you need red wine at four PM sushi at nine pm breakfast burrito at eight AM, and I'd be pro at ten AM posts made it post mates is your personal food delivery, grocery delivery. Whatever kind of delivery service all year round anything. You're craving post mates can deliver. 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You need it posts made it download the post mates app in save with the promo code starting nine being that it is our Thursday episode. Jay, we've got some mother fucker weekends series that we wanted dabble with. Yeah, we do. So let's start with the NATs and the dodgers. There are some really sexy weekend series today some start Friday. Nets dodgers, obviously, the dodgers have the best record win percentage in the NFL. They have the highest odds to make the postseason in the. They're almost considered a lock already which I think is actually kind of fair the nationals. I don't think we I don't think it was clear that they were the best team in the NFL to start the season. But I think some people had them there. And they were certainly in the conversation for that division. They are fourteen and twenty two the only team in the NFL with a worse record is the Marlins who are just a baseball team in name only. I think there is. I guess here's my question for you guys is like at what point are we legitimately concerned about the nationals as a team as a viable postseason threat. And they've got sure Strasbourg and Corbin going across not in that order but going in this series like how important is this series for them to at least get a split for you guys. Well, it's it's big in. Look, it's not. I'll say this can't it's not gonna determine their entire season. But it can definitely hinder their their ability to have success later in the year. You don't wanna get put behind the eight ball right now this this far back especially with those guys on your pitching staff because these are the guys that are supposed to be able to in the face of a struggling offense. Keep you in the race. Right. So for the nets heading into this series. They're gonna see to lefties. The nets have the best slugging percentage, which is at a five fifty three clip against lefties in major league baseball is also featuring the second best slugging percentage in all of baseball on left-handed breaking balls. They're gonna see review they're gonna see hill who's been just unbelievably right, right? But the so they've just just those are and again, they're not gonna get Soto back Saturday. I believe so we'll have Soto for two out of the four. Ryndam dome back now, it's a it's a it's a big deal because they're going to figure out look this is where route aside from seeing Kershaw. They're also going to see the best offerings that the dogs were featuring right? So it's it's it's definitely that Liz test offer. Bueller? Max Scherzer is. Oh, it's it's sexual up to the billing because Buehler. Buehler hasn't been bueller yet. But Hudson review I thought because his last time it was the complete game shutout against the Braves. And I thought he was just kind of on a hot streak because I saw the last time I eight innings one earned run against the giants. He's been great all year like hasn't given up more than two earned runs in a start all year. No, he's filthy. And that's why like so you get performance like that. So when you kick around the whole Cy Young conversation in fucking may look I understand I get it. But there's a lot of guys. Maybe not a lot of guys. There are guys who are having who who have had those types of starts to their seasons. The one thing that the NATs did do they went out and procured the services of one Gherardo par and you heard Dave Martinez skipper talk about a lackluster offense, not much punch at the moment. Some swing and miss and what does par provide sub twenty percents strikeout rate at the time being it's at its highest or one of the highest point that's ever been eighteen point six percent strikeout rate right now, but having never had a twenty percent or rate higher than twenty. He's going to add some bad to ball. Maybe that can trying to get them going. But they're fucking the injury book right Zimmerman Matt Adams deal. Sorry, dude. If you're counting on Ryan. Zimmerman and Matt Adams to be like bastions of health plan. Totally. Well, yeah, you're not. I mean, the bottom again, the bottom line is these guys were on the team, and they're not, you know, you're factoring them in being healthy to an extent being able to produce. So. Let me let me sound the alarm on the national for a second before we move onto the next match-up. Thank you for doing this, by the way, I didn't wanna do it. Because I did it last year ended up kind of fighting in the ass. But. That guy. It's just numbers baby. You can't argue with the numbers until they change. Correct. Those. This is all per fan, graphs. They've lost thirteen percent off their playoff odds in the last week alone. They've lost thirty percent off their playoff odds. Since the start of the season they've gone from seventy eight percent to forty eight percent to make playoffs surprises even that high in in terms of their projected wins they've gone from a beginning of the season ninety win projection to a current projection of eighty four wins. And here's perhaps the most eye-popping and maybe the most random, but also eye-popping they are one in seven in max sure's eight starts this year. They went eighty five and forty six in his regular season starts through his first four seasons with the club. So this is obviously for guys when multiple Cy Young as one in seven, isn't is a total aberration in outlier, but he hasn't been exactly max shurer this season seven area. Believe very I don't want to say hit -able. But he's been he's been max Scherzer. He hasn't been Mad Max, I think I think this is going to be a fascinating areas. I mean, there's little at stake for the dodgers. Getting the fact that this to win eighty four games means that there's gotta be this fucking matched. And what I'm saying crops here is the team to go to an eight trust me. I fucking know. And be hoping what was this is not who? What are these guys doing? And then you turn around and go eight into and your entire season that was over ten days ago is now gleaming with hope. And so it just takes and speaking of streak thing about this over the next fourteen days the NATs will play the Mets seven times and will play the Marlins in one four game series as well. And they'll have the cubs sprinkled in there in between. So you're going to play the Mets three-game piece four-game piece you've got the Marlins for a four-game piece. I feel like you've got an opportunity to turn some shit around. Yeah, they do. But you know, you you still have to capitalize and at the end of the day. What do they thought my head like eight games under five hundred? Yup. They're eight got. All right. Yeah. So I mean, it's not impossible. And I still expect them. I don't think they're gonna finish the season below five hundred but they for sure have their work cut out for them. If they're going to be a team that at when it's all said and done is a couple games over five hundred. That's they're going to have to go on quite a run. Let's stick in the NFL another hot little sexy. Matchup and central brewers cubs. Dodgers starts today. This brewers Cup starts Friday. We get Campbells and that serious. I believe we do. Yes. All I my question for you is and this has been a running theme with the brewers obviously their starting rotation never really caught up with them last year there slate. ABC's and yo- leash Assine during this season this series. They currently have the third worst starting pitcher Yara in the NFL, and they have the third worst fifth to go along with it. And I looked at those probable starters. And I know Zack Davies is off to a great start. And I said that's us. That is just not the trio that you would ideally run out against a division rival that you're competing directly against like. I'm just I guess my question is are you guys convinced that it that it will or will not catch up with the brewers this year, they're their lack of rotation depth and impact and all of that. I still don't think it's a rotation question. I think it's you know, the reason why the brewers were able to skate with the rotation that they had last year was because if you got four five innings from starter, which is in great, you just handed off to the bullpen and it's game over because you know, the brewers are gonna hit their homers. They're gonna they're gonna drive in their runs, especially at home where they haven't. They haven't played well in the road yet this year, I think they have a losing record on the road this year. But with the brewers it's like, you know, if you get four or five innings three earned runs something like that. Even even four earned runs. You can handed off the bullpen, and it's pretty much game over if you've got a lead by that point. But they haven't been able to just handed over to their bullpen this year. So I still think you know, obviously, the the rotation is far less talented on paper than the bullpen is. But the bullpen has been at times very ineffective in in. Inconsistent in their performance. So that's that's been the problem is if we give you a lead can you protect the for us. Maybe we'll maybe is not good enough when we're dealing with what we're dealing with from starting pitching perspective. I still think this is a matter of their offense being being strong enough to be able to survive some of the some of the. Some of the slugfest they might find themselves in. I think they'll come out on. I think if we look at games where both teams have scored seven or more runs. The brewers. We're gonna win the majority of those games. All right. I disagree. Thank you guys can wrong. But. That's why there's three things podcast. I think this starting rotation is four cry from what's good enough to ultimately win the division. When if you're. You're gonna GO GO can even be close to what he was last year for them down the stretch what five games at seven early unemployed two weeks ago. That's fine. Oh, sweet unjustly exactly that. You can throw that out there. You son of a bitch. So as Dallas Craig kimbrel are those too even jail in that class. No, no, but unjustly unemployed. Sure very much. So so sure fuck you very much my hand unjustly unemployed and also like a number four. That's fine. See you're calling him a number four. If you want to go back to look at the production over the last five to seven starts or whatever it was for the for the brewers last year was that number four type production. Or are you looking at that going? You know, what if I could have that guy over the course of a full season. I wonder what that could play out. Look like, I feel like that's probably the answer. Nobody's looking at that stretch run that GIO went on last year ago. And now, you know, we don't really need that. I mean. No getting that. And everybody is looking at it going. Yeah. I don't know if we're going to get that all year. But if we can get something close to that. Or anything was Ziming that I think we'll take that. Because that's a sub one book and whip j what if that grows into a one three or you'll k with that? I bet you are. I bet your yeah. Yeah. I bet I am. If I'm the brewers and desperate for anybody who can go six innings in his start. That's not really my point though. My point is is that they don't still have anything resembling high end pitching on that rotation and the numbers back it up that their starting pitching has been but cheeks this year, but third words. Rockies. I believe the only ones that are worse. Ain't the Marlins had a better pitching staff the meteorite now statistically wake up. No. All right. Don't. Let's over the AL for the final weekend series preview, the me's and the raise the two top dogs in the AL. The most interesting to me because I think we both. We all know these teams are good. They're both projected to make the playoffs right now. Yankees still favored in the division. According to fan graphs by about a game or game and a half. I find each individual pitching matchup here. Interesting on Friday. We have to Mingo her Mon. Two of the sexier young pitchers. So far through the first what six weeks of the season. Yeah. The the dirty main go thirty Dominguez. We also have on Saturday a veteran crafty lefty owner of a Cy Young owner of three thousand strikeouts Tabatha against a younger lefty owner of a Cy Young owner of a couple of hundred strikeouts. Blake snow. Yeah. Like Maka against the. Nope. Inner presumably on Sunday. Don't write off the opener. What do we know that? I'm not writing them off. I'm just saying it's hard to like sell that is like right actually match up the other two when we don't even know who did like, okay. Yeah. It's Tanaka guy. John torino. So I wanna know what Tampa's record has been since last year. Yeah. With the opener like just with the opener. Yes. Over five hundred. Yeah, I'm sure it is going to take me to do. I'll circle back on that one. Yeah. Including this year plus last year, what is the raise record when they use an opener. I'm going to say, they're probably like. Five games over five hundred though, I would I would have I didn't even higher. Yeah. I wouldn't we didn't. Aims than it is in their other games. Interesting. I really like to know that little figure it out. We'll have on Tuesdays podcasts. Yeah. We'll have that answer for you by then we'll have another game to add to the sample. Who do we like in that series, Tampa or the Yankees? Well, the question is what happens if the Tampa Bay rays are able to create separation here. Look, I don't think it's a big deal of the Incas even get swept if I'm being completely honest. Not a big deal. The again a great place team. It's it's as of right now, they're not the New York Yankees baseball team. I mean, they are. But they're not who did not who they're not who we all thought they would be or who they thought they would be in terms of health. Let's let's just the bottom line. There's that's the elephant in the room. That is what it is like you can't accurately project the New York Yankees at this point because they just haven't been the New York Yankees. No. I just I think it's that simple when you're talking about adding the guys that you'll be adding if your team there's no way you can even entertain a like a reasonable analysis right now of your club. Like, you can't listen to anybody tell you who your club is right now, you just like, I I if you were to if you were to break down the Yankees the same way that we just attempted to break down the brewers. You're not gonna look at starting pitching. I guess you could. Tation if you were gonna look in and hope, yes, we're the Yankees in league wide open. We'd be like all right. Well, that's not really the actual team. Right. Hitting with runners in scoring position shit like that. Like, that's all these aren't the guys. That's the bottom line. These aren't the guy. So is it something to worry about if they get swept is it something to worry about if they dropped two out of three if you're the Yankees. No, if you're the raise it's a great opportunity to just as I said create that separation, and sort of remind people that you ain't fucking around, right? I think the overwhelming point here is that there is so much still to be cited in the AL east decided in the AL east. As of right now fan graphs has the Yankees to finish with ninety three wins. The raise the finished with ninety one wins and the Red Sox finished with ninety wins. And they are all between sixty three and eighty two percent to make the playoffs. So plenty as they say, plenty of blood yet to be spilled. Third-placed team. I'm sorry. Who you talking about the Red Sox Dallas? I'll make I'll make the bet that you have with me about lad, I'm willing to make a bet with you that the Red Sox don't finish in third place or lower. Oh, wow. Wow. That's that's. How's that live jeered? How's that limb that the defending World Series? You just suggested that they would finish in third place. Did you not? No, I did not. I did I Renault best. Ensure I repeated what Justin haven said, I think it's I think it's fair. I think it is kind of a Lyneham. Okay. Well, this is basically this is just the raise. So hold on. Is this just the raise finishing higher than the Red Sox? Or is this the finishing higher than third-place red locks have to finish first or second in the alias for Jerry to win the bet. Yeah. Gotcha. I mean. The Blue Jays in Orioles relevant to this conversation. So you have to wear. Jerod should have to wear a halter top and boy shorts to the office. Vernon tire week if there had socks. Finishing third place. To come to the office. If you lose you have to you have to go to the office every day or office. Or or given the stakes. I've seen you eat in the past. We can do a nice steak dinner. We could do that. Slave. You know? A halter top to an office. I don't even go to that. Was that was you that was just you showing up to the I thought I thought that was bad enough. Like, I thought that was going to be punishment. Like now, I'm here. Who are you wonder if my swipe card would still work at the new office? We don't even have that set. Yeah. Can you can kinda just like fuck and walk in right now. That's good. Yeah. I feel safe pans out there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not ideal. So Jared, if lead junior doesn't hit three hundred I think I think I have an idea what you'll be doing. Yeah. Will not be agreeing to that. See we we needed install we need this shit set right now. So that when you're fucking wearing the bet there's no no not going to do that. No not gonna do. You can't know fuck it wiggle room. Fled juniors. Gotta hit about six hundred for the remainder of the not looking good a mirror ground ERO. Okay. Right now, he is hitting. One sixty two with a four thirty three. Oh, PS stay this about many guys, you're but you're going to absolutely need him to least hit his weight to get anywhere near three hundred. Yeah, we need a to seventy batting if he's hitting his weight than hell out. Ted williams. Boy. Yep. Could be. Maybe it's a maybe it's two nine shaved into the side of your head. I don't know you're saying, that's wait get the gun. Hold on this. This address is like their words cut off. You guys have this ad read because the way that like on the on the document that's sentences. Just go into nowhere. Oh, yeah. Do see that. It's not your fault standby. I'm gonna go get drunk in the stands today at the baseball. Yep. I give away my tickets, and I'm only gonna give away three today. And I'm just going to show up in the second inning sit down next to him with a bunch of beers. Get wasted. Jared since I just have it in front of me want me do it. Sure. Starting the formatting that these guys send these androids inist just said. All right. Three to one CBD MD is a leader in the CBD oil industry. 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So now, if you're you know, as those others were quickly approaching the end of basketball and hockey season where everyone just sorta comes right on over to baseball. Welcome on in. On in the water's fine over here. And. Come on few. If you're if you're just kind of dabbling in those other sports, and maybe you wanna get into baseball little bit early. Thank you pick the right weekend. Do it. Absolutely. There's no doubt about that. Can't wait. Ooh. I hope my final thought after a no hitter. That was the start of which was delayed because of light issues. Followed by thirteen inning ballgame. I'm hoping for I mean, let's just keep ratcheting it up. Let's go for seventeen tonight. Dallas. No, we're gonna we're gonna see we're going to see another dynamic pitching performances. What we're going to get its might have to change it for pal town, a no-no town out here corrobos, it's jilts kinda what just kind of what we do out here. It's it's really becoming old hat. You know, I see them. What time what's the last time? The red a Red Sox pitcher through a no hitter j I thought we were gonna play a little game of is looking forward to that. Yeah. The rundown was. Well, reading can be tough sometimes so yeah. The rundown was was absolutely. But yet Jerry was probably still still mere ashes in old Patrizio skin. Fires. The last time a thug Red Sox pitcher through journalists still probably in fired off into a tube sock. The last time a Red Sox pitcher through a no hitter. You know, what's you know, what rapid fire. We got. We got a couple of minutes. Let's play that game last teams. No hitters. Ready? Yeah. I'm fucking ready. Bluejays. Dave sti? Yes. Nineteen was Dave Steve. Yep. Damn and he did it twice. Right. Auriol's orioles. No, he taken no hitter. Nighttime back to. Oriole's this lame. So I'm just gonna skip it. It's a combined between Bob Malacca. Mike Flanagan Mark Williamson Greg Olson in nineteen. Quite like that asshole for even bringing that up even having the Orioles in their raise. Did she also on? Nope. It's the only no hitter. Yes. Hundred forty six pitches or two thousand eight. Where what did you say Red Sox? Oh, yes. Eight. Yeah. Johnny Leiceste Yankee nineteen ninety nine. David cone. They recoun- home. Royal's nineteen Ninety-one. Bret saberhagen. Yes. Tigers twenty eleven ver- Lander lender twins also twenty eleven tatters out to in this game. Yeah. I remember that White Sox twenty twelve early. No. Oh. Had inskeep. Had to throw the runner out from the backstop after the final strikeout behind him. This is Tony eleven twenty twelve twenty twelve fuck. He only ended up with sixteen wins in his career. I feel like I should know this just because like hawk Harrelson's calls are always great for shit like this. Spill. Yes. Yeah. L moving. The battery was it was the Seattle. Mariners about it was Brinton Ryan. Wow. Good memory angels, two thousand twelve. He's been on the podcast before Jared Weaver. Yes, we've. Astros. What year it's the man himself Verlinde? No, it's the same guy that it is for the ethics. Oh fires. That's right. Right. Right. Mariners this. King Felix your last year. Now on the Yankees. Oh, yeah. In Toronto Canada. Rangers nineteen Ninety-four. It was a perfect game. Douse. You should know this MLB dot com. It was called by career. Minor league umpire who had only worked a total of eight MLB games behind the plate. Wow. Dude. Fuck I don't know most member Kenny Rogers. Oh, what I think he did that with the Tigers. I don't know. The tigers. I don't think so probably just like pissing the pine tar all over his glove. Larussa never said anything in the World Series. L east Kent Mercker. There's the answer. There's some reading issues that we talked about earlier two thousand twelve Mets Jetta. Phillies twenty fifteen. This is one of his last moments is affiliated brewers nineteen eighty seven. This one's a tough one. Jesus. I should probably know this. But I won't be no hitter in Bruce history. Yeah. I got nothing. One nevis. Cardinals two thousand and one this came at the age of twenty one for this young man in his eleven big-league start. Not walk a carpenter. No fuck. Why can I think of his name right now? Fucking newer every much. No, it's very much a baseball name two thousand and one that is eighteen years ago. God just bud's for you, bud. Smith. Yep. Skipping around a little bit the reds 2013 one of them. Yeah. Again, or one of five act of guys with two and finally get to the NFL west the d backs one of Dallas's, I think favorite pitchers two thousand and ten. One of Edwin Jackson. Yes. One hundred seventy five pitches. Walked eight. Bitch. Giants. This is an obscure one even though it was just twenty fifth. No, chris. Oh, no. No. No. No, no, no. It was hit three batters stride. Chris Stratton Jonathan Sanchez. No it is. It's Chris Heston Heston, sorry, processed Rockies only one only one in Rockies history. You. Were you differences? No two thousand ten oh, all the minutes. Yuck. Cut out. And finally. The San Diego Padres. What year trick question? Only franchise that never thrown in no hitter. First game of the franchise was April eighth nineteen sixty nine and. Nice. It's been anything. But ice in terms hitters for the Padres. All right. That was fun. It was out of order, but it was still fun. That's fun. We have fun here. His. Baseball on yet. Until Tuesday intil next week will fuck in CNN X time. Now.

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NLU Podcast, Episode 298: Phil Mickelson Deep Dive

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NLU Podcast, Episode 298: Phil Mickelson Deep Dive

"Beater right club today. Yes that's better than most about. It is better than most fatter than most before we get rolling here with today's episode another round table deep dive episode. This time led by none other than Big Randy let you guys know. A few programming updates strapped is scheduled to premiere on Fubo. Tv At six PM and six thirty eastern time. You can find Fubo on any smart. Tv just by searching for fubo TV as Welby no laying up. Podcast will officially be on Dan. Patrick Radio Mondays Thursdays and Fridays at six PM on Sirius. Xm Channel to eleven. So we're looking forward to To these podcasts hitting the airwaves on Dan Patrick Radio on Sirius. Xm And finally before we get into one of the topics that we're going to talk about with Phil of course. Is his penchant for golf equipment. Always been a tinkerer. Never shy about mixing up. What's in his bag? He's one majors one driver in the bag to drivers in the bag in with no drivers in the bag. We talk a good amount about that. We're talk specifically about the Franken. Would that helped him win the UK British Open presented by Her Majesty the Queen? It was a one off custom club that Calloway that actually I know this. They actually inspired calloway's strong often. Fairway Woods that are available to all regular golfers out there. The maverick line has a three plus currently in the bag of our own. Very very own tron Carter Those also of course known for his wedge play he collaborated with the callaway. Rnd create the PM Grind Wedge. I can't really describe this thing. You have to at least go. Look at this wedge. How big hype. To- of it is in the groups that go all the way to the edge and all the way to the hustle play that lives very close to the hustle like myself. I might WANNA look into that allows for a ton of versatility around Greens. I believe neal has described it as cheating. It feels like cheating around the Greens with the PM Grind so not surprisingly Phil was also the first player to game a chrome soft with triple track technology to help align at not just on Putts but also on T. shots and we'll also discuss how he probably could have used the triple track much earlier in his career as it seemed to have been defined by missing a lot of short putts earlier in his career. You can learn more about Phil's equipment at Callaway Golf Dot Com and learn how to hit bombs from Phil on Calloway's Youtube Channel without any further. Delay here go ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the no laying up podcast Another book report addition. We have a substitute teacher for today. the actually. Kinda one of those situations where. The teacher is going to be a student in the classroom. That student is going to be Mr Neil Schuster on not a in professor. Randy's course today and I'm thrilled to Professors put his glasses on right now Which is which is fitting while. I am excited. My notebooks open. You know pencils out laptops down the thank you Let me see here. Gosh she's excited to get the class. Started here is here. Hello Sally Mr Dj Pie. Here's greetings hello and now finally time for the Professor Randy here to talk about one of his favorite topics. Maybe in the world. Mr You introduce it we Today's subject is one Philip. Alfred Mickelson Alfred already. Wow write that down. I'll take what do you do it? How about the fact that used to be an actual substitute teacher? That's Yeah God. That's no one at the stables more qualified for this he could do a whole nother podcast on that the key. I'll say this the key to substitute teaching. You have to quickly establish that you care less than the. That's the only way to gain. The upper hand is that your approach to today's lesson it's somewhat. It's like the line from office space when he talked about jail. It's like within the first twenty four hours you to beat someone up or become someone's bitch visits. Yeah so we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA dive into the life and career of Phil. Mickelson can set the scene. I for your unabashed love for the man how that dates back and and y yeah Great Question I will never apologize for being Phil Mickelson Fan. I grew up a huge huge fan of his. I think I mean anytime. Somebody shares your your first name. I mean you got to be a fan right no I. I think I was coming of age right Although he was the second third fourth best player out on tour he he was in a way an underdog to tiger the heartbreak kid and he was the heartbreak kid. He was over forty six which we'll get into in his first majors Eleven and a half years of majors and I think I was naturally drawn to that. And then more than that. His style of play was always. I appreciated it right. The gopher broke reckless swashbuckling play. He exhibited on the course was fun and I was hoping you'd say swashbuckling and I guess more than that you know say what you will about and we can get into some of it but he had a certain persona and charisma on the golf course and the way he treated fans in the way he would talk to media and give stand up answers and I don't know I appreciate it especially in contrast to tiger and everything about tiger woods at the time. Can I ask you kind of existential question? I was thinking about it. Yeah it seems like everything Phil runs antithetical to everything. Big Randy. Well I'm curious. How those things square for is an opposites attract you to willingly. Let him pull the wool over your uh. I'm curious if you've thought about that. And if that's a fair assessment I have I think I think my admiration and Phantom for him was solidified at a young enough age where one. I wasn't really aware of you. Know maybe this could be an act and and two I. I wasn't fully formed in my pessimism cynicism about about the world. And so it's kind of like he's grandfathered exactly. Yeah I think that's exactly the right term He's outside the statute of limitations. Yes but it's it's a point we'll take also good. I mean maybe this is a discussion afterwards but you know if somebody's been acting quote unquote acting like something for twenty five years. Isn't that who they are at this point? I think that's that's a very good point as well. It's at some point. You fake it till you make it right. I think there's GonNa be a lot of parallels with the Garth Brooks Documentary Garth Brooks podcasts. We did. I never made the Phil Garth comparison. That's a really good one. The one question just because it's going to set the scene for today's lesson kind of in comparing howl American history books may be conveniently. Leave some things out you know when I look back at my time in school as well. Why didn't I learn about that? Is the name Billy Walters GonNA come up? We will begin. The we're getting the real story today. Yeah and so the format I WANNA use. I want to go. I feel like chronologically is is the easiest way to go about it. Let's dive in. Let's go you turn fifty this year so he was logical. So that's I think you're gonna hit the class triple well. Here's your first trivia question if he turns fifty this year was he born. Neil nineteen seventy nineteen seventy. That's right so head over. Their salary hand raised outside and sit in the front and the DJ sitting kind of back. Like yeah professor thinking full of Shit How can you actually like this guy? Put a Goldstar by my name. So He's born in. Nineteen seventy two Philip and Mary Mickelson San Diego California is he the second. He's not technically the second but I don't know I don't know if he's a junior. I didn't see anything about him. Being does have the same middle name to be a second listen. I'm asking the second they didn't say well. Yeah the Second. I'm not junior. The second guy was we're not. We're not doing that shit but we're not. I don't think Randy said Said his father's middle name honestly. It's not my notes. It's a good question. Why don't you come to my office hours? We can discuss that further. He's right handed and everything. Is there your first little trivia? I think everybody knows this right. He's right handed but became left-handed Mirroring. His father's swing So as his father practiced in the garage right handed young Phil would stand across from them and Muir his father's action which created a left handed swing. His father was an avid golfer. They had a short game area in their backyard Which I think goes a long way to fill becoming the short game artist That he would become really not much. Is You know. Very typical childhood. Obviously loves golf. Their stories about you know one time at age four. He ran away from home with a golf club. In a bag of balls and a neighbor found him down the street and return them home Is this his version of Greg? Norman getting caught off the On his boat by the Coast Guard is like. Hey It's the wind guy the golf guy. Maybe he was just playing around around. The neighborhood story went. Yeah he was like mad about something so he was going to run away and I may miss it. He grew up in southern California. San Diego Diego. Yup so I WANNA point. You obviously is an Avid Golfer. The first Career milestone comes in nineteen eighty where he wins the junior. World Golf Championship in the boys. Nine ten division it would be in San Diego in San Diego correct. Yeah it would be the only World Golf Championship. He would win though four years later in one thousand nine four is that official WDC event. It's not okay. For years later he would lose. It would be runner up and the thirteen fourteen division to South African named Ernest. Els Great Photo from that day. Yeah Yeah was Ernie a big unit back then big unit yes has always been a big unit can looks like Freddie actually as a teenager. It's funny you mentioned. Freddie is actually modeling morality Freddie's left. He's modeling my swimming. Biki come over the top. I kind of a swashbuckler to for sure young swashbuckling hair. The only other boys junior event that I wanted to point to a Guinea finishes runner-up Maybe setting a bit of a Motif for later in his in his career in one thousand nine hundred eighty six. He finished runner-up at the junior worlds to Korito Villa Romana and what was significant about this. Was He finished runner up by eleven shots. Mr Korito Shot a fifteen under a record at the event and absolutely dusted the field and I thought that was kind of interesting because I have never heard of Korito villa remond. But that's next week's lesson come back into the story later. Not This guy's so he he graduates from the University of San Diego High School. I don't I guess it's a high school on the campus of University of San Diego. That named threw me for a loop university. Sandy or there's The dawn's know that San Francisco that's right. Yes the not the aspects at San Diego Toros Torah exactly right. This is the University of San Diego High Schools. I don't know what high school mascot he he graduates in In nineteen ninety heads or excuse me one thousand nine hundred and he heads to of course Arizona State of course forks up and I just WanNa take you through. I'm not sure people appreciate how good his college career was. So as a freshman he wins the NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP. He plays on the Walker. Cup Team comes back. His Sophomore Year wins the PAC ten championship the NCAA championship and the US amateur quick note on the US amateur. He defeated Manny Zimmerman. Five and four at Cherry Hills. Manny's Erman finished runner up two times in row with the the. Us Am nineteen ninety and nineteen ninety-one DJ. You're shaking knew that Sean Martin. A Huge Fan. You bring that of all. The time is he turned pro. I believe he's a teaching pro now. I'm sure he had a go of professional golf. He went to Arizona He and Phil were actually high school. Teammates University Nagel Highschool. Manny was from South Africa but moved over to the states And then went to Arizona and I believe he's now teaching prudence South Florida. It anyway Quick note on that. Us Amateur Win on the first hole of the final Phil conceded thirty foot. Par putt to German Mickelson had a two foot birdie. Putt and conceded the par putt to German Saying later that I wasn't going to try to lag it to footer. You know this is me putting words in his mouth now. I knew ahead to make it which I think is the first fig jam like imagine that your opponents thirty feet out of the US am final. Your good man I'm just GONNA put all this pressure on myself to make this foot Birdie pucks. I don't WanNa lag it. That's sick. I've never heard just like big Radi. True celebration so he was very he would go on. That was at Cherry Hills obviously one the US A. M Became the first person since Jack Nicklaus in nineteen sixty one to win both the NCAA and the am in. The same year became the first left-handed swinger to win the US am. Wow and in nineteen ninety wins the Fred Haskins award for the top Kind of the heisman trophy of college golf. So that's a sophomore year at Arizona. State let's turn now to his junior. This is a time you gotta remember. People aren't turned pro early You know these days. I think he wouldn't obscene his sophomore year. Was You know? Besides I was pre nine eleven and pre-nine eleven so in Nineteen ninety-one he's the two-time NCA defending champion. He does not win the NCAA championship in. Nineteen ninety-one Warren shoot of unlv fill finish is tied for fourth. He also does not win the. Us loses in the round of sixteen. He does however win the Fred Haskins award again as the top College Golfer And Oh yeah what also was special. Nineteen ninety-one he also one on the PGA so as a college junior. He wins The PJ tours northern telecom open in Tucson by a stroke and he got he got the dumbest Helmet. No not that dumb ass. How conquistadors was that the old that's how the Phoenix Open. No it's a. It's it's a bygone turn actually The TUCSON event which are Thorpe won back to back years back when it was a match play of course of course a quick break year to introduce a new partner here to the podcast and real marsh. Shoes Real Mar R. I O. M. A. R. If you're like me I've always kind of struggled with a casual shoe to wear to and from the golf course and just a casual shoe for summer. Tennis shoes can be a little bit too. Sporty sometimes low. I can be a bit too. Stuffy. This fits that right in between. I love issue that you can wear without socks. Ever that loafer. I've ever worn the shoes up. 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So if you want some special just like you can email. The merchants are in our shop. You can email the Commodore. He will do his best to oblige. So if you'RE WORRIED ABOUT SIZING AND FIT. Don't they want you in the best fit for you? They'll happily exchange your kicks so don't sleep on this rare opportunity to get a discount real marsh shoes R. I O. M. A. R. DOT COM. Use Promo Code. Fifteen fifteen percent off at checkout. Let's get back to it. So just a couple of things to note from that. He became the sixth amateur to win on tour. He is still the last person to do that. Obviously it was twenty years old. When he won in the final round tripled the fourteen th hole. He was leading. Triple the fourteenth hole to go three down but then birdied sixteen and eighteen For the one shot Victory Odor Rossi so again even even as a twenty year old At the start of his PGA career. He he's central. He's always been. That guy was ninety one. Yeah Okay and he played the Walker Cup that year to Second Walker Cup. Yeah so we give a shout out to the team please. Alan Doyle who has had to of in mid forties at that point David Duval David Eger. Franklin Langham Bob May Phil Mickelson timeshare. Jason Segel Mike sposa Mitch versions. That's eight names any partnered with with Bob May in one or two of the matches. You guys talked about that with Bob. Megan you think we talked about as Walker. Yeah I don't know Bradshaw episode six or something like that one was. He was back when you had to have been runner up in a major. Get on the trap door. Yeah Yeah I WANNA know how. Many days how many ways Phil qualified for the ninety-one Masters because he won the US am. He also WANNA tore event to as an amador. He's shrinking the field. He's still played in the replayed as amador in ninety one in ninety-one correct because I was gonna say he comes back to school for his senior year in Nineteen ninety-two unfinished. Business unfinished business. That's a fig jam. Move so all right so he he comes back but then he turns pro midway through probably fast forward he completes he turned pro in June of nineteen ninety all four years. Yeah I thought he went on for years baby. Yeah Oh my gosh. That'll be jumping ahead. That's a bit of the jam. Move like Oh yeah. The money's GonNa come like where I'm that good business right here and then we'll get to that stuff. I think you mentioned that people just didn't turn pro early. No you didn't turn pro. I mean you look at all the college sports. It's it's full of really like people we go if you left pro one year early. That was like what people did. Maybe but yeah people. People went off for their stories of him walking around with wills of cash from his like during his college days. I couldn't find any on the record but I'm sure you know who could possibly say. I'm sure some Eddie some Greg Norman last week. I'm sure there's going to be coming. Your way was indeed that I hope you share with us now might be in the off book report. Yeah so nine. Thousand nine hundred comes back as a senior he wins the NCAA championship for the third time. He wins the Fred Haskins award for the third time joining Ben Crenshaw's the only three time winner ever heard of them so you wraps up his College Career Winning Sixteen tournaments and fifty one starts in then as I mentioned. He turns pro shortly after graduation in In the spring obviously doesn't need to go to q school goes right onto the tour because of his His PGA tour win visit winning so they hold that exemption once you've won for two years like that's the exemption for winning a tournament right. Yeah you get two full years. The current year. Yeah even if you're not professional apparently how about that. What really come up much. I know that's really dumb question. He's the most recent amador to win an event right. Yes correct correct. Komo pay attention one Web tour event. Gotcha in in Athens. Correct and Shane. Lowery won the Irish open as an owner. Correct nineteen ninety. Three's for sure on on tour. The only real significant thing to note Besides he won twice was he hires Jim Bones. Mckay as his caddie obviously a relationship that will Will last a long time. What tournaments that he win the Buick Invitational Torrey Pines and the International in In Colorado Stableford one of the Castle Castle. Yeah that's what format for him. Going low Jacques Cousteau style. Did you say I don't know if this is in your notes But wasn't his college. Coach was Steve. Yeah good good Great question what is your name. Great question thanks heavy. Be here Steve Louis was college coach on a state. And then transitioned shot the government and dramatic you to his agent and business manager upon graduation. Only reason I bring that up is a foreshadowing. If somebody's brother will exactly do later and be. It's a pretty baller. Move or or weird move. I don't really know to be a very successful college coach. A three time national champion and they'd be like fuck this. I'm an agent now manages business. I think when you get certain. Show ponies exactly. Yeah you got to attach car to to the generational guys. I'd like to give a shout to any Nicholson. We'll get to her. Yes we will but I guess they met when he was at Arizona State. She was a junior in college and was Phoenix. Suns cheerleader at the same time so she had already Gone Perot. Some people considered truly sport. Exactly she but she she went and she kept going with her degree while doing the Phoenix Sunday school. Do you have the the first date story in your notes. I don't do you have it. Yeah well he's he's tells it all the time but he talks about how he was a psychology major. Yeah and so. He made sure that their first date was to a scary movie because he knew that you know. This sounds like sociopaths stuff but he knew that. Like you know heightened Whatever your adrenaline gets going. Which makes you implicitly. Trust the person next to you more. He's again there was all this all the signs that went into. Why chose the first day? Because I knew she would be nervous. You'd be more you know more apt to kind of like let me let me in you know and He's again it it's worked out. He's on Ferte in the leathers. I have heard that essentially the fear and the attraction. Yeah go ahead kind of the same physical responses and so he was able to like substitute the attraction for the better of anyone. You're attracted house food. This this point. Johnson my favorite Cedric Ceballos. Xactly Chuck Barkley. They were runner up. Ninety three Marlene Thunder Dan. Do you have any notes of a history of him running around with Barclay? I don't okay did he. Has He talked about that? There are some stories out there that are like yeah. I can touch a little bit on that. Basically like guest speaker there was some Some routes being run between Phoenix and Vegas. And there'd be there'd be instances where they'd be together and in Vegas and whatever chuckle be out till whatever at night and it's there's situations where some of the people that may have been involved. We're also like do. He is out and they played. They're playing the Knicks like tomorrow night in Phoenix. And they go like. We're taking the Knicks. Man This is crazy. Like chuck out super late embark. We go back and put up like forty. Two Thousand Sixteen sons would just wipe the floor with the. Yeah well we're going into gambling stuff. Of course Jon thank you for pointing that out. Those Phoenix Suns teams. Were were awesome. Shot the Paul Westfall. Yeah head coach so really everybody. The next five years on tour really the timeframe between nineteen ninety four and nineteen ninety eight Phil savages himself as a very good player onto he wins ten times as seven top tens at majors. He has two third place finishes one at the PGA Championship one at the master's off. The course he nabs a speaking role in the nineteen ninety six film Tin Cup. Of course everybody is familiar with that. There was a story that I found. Apparently somebody bet him that he couldn't flop a ball over a tree onset and there was like a pool of twelve hundred bucks That people ended up for and so the story goes you know mixing of course takes the bat hits the flop shot and as the ball like essentially before it reaches its apex over. The tree bends down and picks up the money and walks off It was pretty good. So yeah he may told her bucks on the set of Tin Cup. In one thousand ninety six he marries he. Amy They They officially tied the knot after four years dating. And so this all sets up you know. He's he's one over over ten times on tour he's had some good major finishes how we all right so how how is first three or four years out on tour did it. Was It successful? Was it. Yeah that's what I'm saying. He's he's ten times he's twelve times on tour and he's got a third place at the masters runner-up somewhat third-place RPG. A third place at the masters. I think if you're freezing it right there. It's like nineteen ninety-seven baby. The next decade is mind. I am ready to take off. Well you know what I'd like. You know we obviously have the tiger tax which you've genius put together of how much money you tiger put in other people's wallets. I think there should be phil tax calculation of just how much money extra money Phil has paid in taxes to live in California. We're going to get there so yeah. Theron I guess to answer your question. He's like I have to think the Pe- people have won twelve times on tour is we're getting into rarefied air. I'm just saying stricker's hokuto. Yeah three of those wins. Were Tucson like you know. Is He went in big events? Take me or is he just scratching the surface here? He's scratching the surface like he beats up the international he beats up the west coast swing really which he does his whole career. So we go in nineteen ninety nine and this is the first instance where this is kind of the initial wound in the US Open. That will develop all kinds of scar tissue throughout his career This is the famous bieber tournament. Amy's back home. Eight nine months pregnant fills ready to leave at a moment's notice. They're expecting their first child would be their daughter. Amanda so Phil shares the first round lead. This is at Pinehurst number. Two shares the first round lead with a sixty seven. He shares the second round lead after a second round seventy. He's won back after the third round. He shoots the seventy three And so we go into the final round he's dealing with Payne Steward of course Fulfil the cat chokes. The cat the catch oaks. People forget that. Rip Cat Right Phil has a one shot lead going into sixteen on Sunday. He bogies after he misses six foot. Par PUTT Pain makes a twenty foot. Putt to save his par So now pain is tied paint. This is ninety nine. Yeah on the seventeenth all sixteen. I'm sorry yeah me Major. No pain pain. Makes a twenty footer for par on the sixteenth and then birdied the seventeenth to take a one-shot lead the nugget from that is if you look at the scorecard that Phil signed afterward. He writes that too. Like bold paint. Makes THE BIRDIE. It looks like it's in. Penn. because he writes. I wonder if you've got a crash. That's a good question Mickelson. Mrs Presented Seven. Let's talk on seventeen and then of course eighteen. Everybody knows pain makes his fifteen footer To win so just the the what I wanted to paint. There was obviously film. Misses a couple of short putts Pain makes some tremendous pods and Phil Finishes runner-up at the USO this little ass cranial shafted thing right all the chrome Yonex Right And I do want to mention Phil's thirty one inches on we're going to get into other sponsorships through the years but Phil's early sponsorships might be the best game as seen Between Hugo boss Rolex Onyx Yonex. Sometimes he would wear the the two reviser in the early days. He just wouldn't wear a hat it all flow that was pre bearing point all pretty. Yeah pre any kind of real financials. We've gotten to Ford Barron Point. Yeah that's the Dark Ages. Well this is my my lasting memory of like as a high school middle school golf around this time was just you feel missing. Short putts. That's all I remember. It was just like. Oh He's not gonNA make this like no. They wouldn't even touch the whole they weren't even close that's true and then things clipped eventually for him where he started making those putts but for so long with the Shinnecock and it was like no. He's not GonNa make this as a kid. I thought I was like man this guy so good. He just can't make any like shortly. Yes reports what I never thought of when I was a kid. I locked word for word with you what I never thought I was like man. This guy hit close a lot. Which is what I should have thought I'd like how. How many shots do you think? He cost himself every week by playing short ass blade putter or had come back to. It was like manny look cool. Yes I bet. All of US tried to play. I tried to play a blade putter. All that so swaggie I make any well. That's great foreshadowing to we'll get to something along those lines tron So I wanNA take us now and do the year two thousand and I want to focus on a four year window between two thousand and two thousand and three in that window He wins eight more times on tour. He collects eight top tens in majors including three straight third place finishes at Augusta and then he also has runner ups at the two thousand and one PGA Championship and the two thousand and two us. Open a one as David. Toms broke his back by laying up on eighteen. Yes correct and then the two. Us Open. I believe as bethpage Yup Which he wasn't really. It's a runner up but he wasn't really. That was Kinda Tigers. The galleries were pulling form super super hearty and Tiger head about it wasn't it wasn't a near Miss when Sergio couldn't pull the trigger gas A. Wagle situation of bethpage. Yeah okay thousand. Bellsouth classic fill one shortened to three rounds. You guys who runner-up US I don't Gary Nicklaus really the amateur so that's on the course. I want to go through some off the court stuff between that two thousand two thousand three window. The first thing I want to talk about is in August. Two thousand fill places as a twenty thousand dollar bet on the Baltimore Ravens at twenty two to one to win the Super Bowl. Baltimore goes on to win the Super Bowl and fill collects four hundred and forty thousand dollars that ravens theme Shoutout Trent Dilfer Lewis Whitening coats read every pre that pre. I think that was firmly. Ed Really Yeah. Shot out the club and that was the next year. I actually was the Cobalt Lounge. Okay I thought it was the year before and then he goes on to win the Super Bowl police while while you look that up let me let me In April of two thousand one Phil claims to have correctly bet on Duke to win the Ncaa Championship. I could not find him. Floyd Mayweather or some of the most successful bettors. I've ever seen you know they. I see so many winning tickets. Yeah that's right biggest on. How does he do wells? Only Phoenixville and in the spring of two thousand one he places. Another twenty thousand dollar bet on the Arizona diamondbacks to win the two thousand and one world series at thirty eight to wash they go on to win the world series. He collects seven hundred. Sixty thousand dollars. At least this is the most fill thing ever by the way to publicize these to make sure he has to pay taxes on it like he doesn't care about the actual money. It's just flexing on people that he that he won. The bets mentioned was Yvette. Sixty grand for the orioles chose that was rainy. Johnson Curt Schilling well. That's why I was GONNA say Trans Deepen Research now at the Ray Lewis stuff but of course the two thousand one world series was monumental for Curt Schilling Dutch boiling sock. That was no no Dutch boy. Sock with the Red Sox won was the Yankees and all. That's rice chat schilling with on the night and chilling. Yeah come on. Chime back shamed hold on. Put your personal device. I have a feeling chilling and Mickelson. They guys seem like they must have gotten along when he was playing for the diamondbacks or they could have been just to like to Alpha for each other to hang out there you know what year was the Super Bowl. A one could sink. It could go I. Two thousand was the was the murder. Yeah so it happened here before. That's why I was when Ray Lewis won. The Super Bowl was like very poor guy. Yeah fill those twitter. Kerry polarized came out in the World Cup that just like tweeted a million different scenarios that could happen and then deleted all the ones that didn't happen so the twitter feed is like all penalty. Come into the ninety first minute and everyone's like it's all fix that's filled with pedic bets on everything and then shows us winning ticket. Yeah allegedly sick so in October. Two thousand won his second daughter. Sophia is born and also in two thousand one. The lower course at whisper rock opens to A lot of accolades it's Phil Mickelson's I designed Venture I worked with Gary Stevenson into any of that in two thousand and two this is. This is where we start. I feel like this is a big transition. This is a big shift In the life. Yeah talking about the Bob. Hope Chrysler Classic when he beat David Britannia Junior and playoff. No but that's that is noteworthy. I'm talking about in September of two thousand still claiming that broken heart is major medical. I'm talking about September two thousand when he signed a multi year deal with Ford which is one of the most amazing inexplicable sponsorships. I've ever seen in the world golf a left chest deal to like this big little Nike. Swoosh Nicholson do you remember like four four? Xl Shirts Brown yellow off gold shirts with the Ford collar. Mock turtleneck. Yeah so let's go to two thousand and three now with like the shiny black pants. How long did that last for that sponsorship multiple years I think like two thousand five? I don't have the exact date. I just remember the wral. He was planning to wral like the picture of the shooter. And then he and he and Cowan to-to-to Durell when you're right. Well I would love to hear phil explain. Why did that's Baen? We all know it's because they rolled up u-haul with money in it but he'd be like you know I took a f one fifty for a test drive and I you know you'd have some like really american-made he'd have some logical like rambling answer. That would that would make a lot of sense. But then that's not true. It would be this so you know. Rick Smith I can Rick Smith's bags do you know. Rick Rick Wilson. Yes so I met him at dysfunction he introduces me to Steve Steve Bartholomew over here who rented this donation. And that's that's how I met the guy from Ford and they're really doing some great so stars stability track so February two thousand and three where he's quoted as saying He takes a poke the cat. He Tiger hates that I can fly a pass them now. I'm quoting Mickelson. He has a faster swing speed than I do but he has inferior equipment tigers. The only player who's good enough to overcome the equipment he stuck with. This was an interview Phil Gulf magazine. He went on to say. I'm thrilled with my title list equipment and proud to represent the company but my I'm sorry W- gets blowback from this. Do you guys remember even hearing it again. It's like wasn't even a distal tiger dude. You're better than me. I just have really good equipment. Yeah everyone's like. Oh my God. He has slammed Tiger Woods. He literally said Tiger is way better than me. Tunsil tough deal on the equipment coming more than it's Tiger. The equipment companies paying tiger. Yeah it's also the I don't think it was known as a favourite tiger maybe the first example of of Hashtag hitting bombs with Phil Ironically. Three he didn't even win though. It's it's Year and we're playing equipment at that. Well we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA get into that so he he kind of walks back. The savings says I'm thrilled with my title. Is Equipment Proud? Represent the company but my remark was absolutely not intended as a knock on any other manufacturer which I remember. This is before golf intent based it sounds a lot like the Watson press conference at Twenty fourteenth. Oh sorry you took it that way. That's not what I meant. I didn't take that as a shot at Mr Watson. Yeah Ca March two thousand three his son. Evan is born and I think this goes a long way to why his two thousand three season was not good. Very difficult pregnancy mickelson would later say he has son didn't breathe for seven minutes and had the emergency nurses not been there with the equipment ready. He might have had some severe brain damage or other circumstances. It was also touching. Go for his wife. He said we were two or three minutes away from losing her. Nicholson said so very traumatic obviously experienced during the pregnancy there. Which at five thousand? That's two thousand three which I think goes into why you know two thousand three was more or less a lost year on the cores forum makes sense so we roll into two thousand four. Everybody's healthy everybody's happy presumably. He wins his first. Start of the season at the Bob. Hope beat Skip Kendall your boy and we roll into Augusta now over forty six majors and I think this is where he's firmly you know has the mantle of best player to never win a major. And where you this week. I am in Hilton head South Carolina. I am a sophomore at Washington and Lee. We are on spring break. We've rented a house with some other people your family or your friends friends for an s college break and he shoots a final round sixty nine including a thirty one on the back nine to win by shot over Ernest. Els Get some back for that boy's thirteen fourteen championship els got nipped him on. I shut three consecutive sixty nine birdies. Eighteen obviously follows it with the infamous leap. I followed his leap with my only. I ran out the back of our rented house and jumped into like those that lagoon. If you've ever been held alligator well I was a little inebriated and I was out there. Like celebrating and the neighbor comes out. He's like hey man you should really get out of there. There are alligators around. I said okay. Yeah you're probably right so I climbed out of the lagoon and it was just euphoric and you world at that point well and I was thinking about you. Know why do I love Phil Mickelson so much which you asked me at the beginning was I the teams I really care about the Cincinnati reds one world series when I was six years old and I didn't really have much appreciation for it Phil Mickelson? Winning the masters was really the only time a team or an individual deeply cared about has won a title. And so I think it was just a monumental like moment of my own fandom Putt went in it. Was it was very joyous. Congratulations literally great. Nance call while the other is it as time at long last. All of America was rooting for him. And if you look at the if you watched that replay just to the absolute jubilation around that grew. Yeah it's a real very real thing randy any of your friends on spring break or they invested as you or like none of them were they like wise golf on no they were. They were watching the none of them were invested. I remember they got like a twelve pack of Corona. That's what we're drinking Drink under only at twelve packs. That's got you drunk enough to jump in the lagoon. Gators anybody else. Have any get four mass memory My girlfriend dumped me that morning. I remember Outta Senate sorry and I. I remember that because after he made the PUTT. She texted me like. Oh my God. Did you see that how crazy it was that I was like? Are we getting back together happening? So because they get us back together we did not. I do remember that though. It's not you it's me. It was me so I wanNA roll forward to June the Shinnecock. Us Open fill three PUTTS from five feet to make double on the seventy first toll It'll cost to drop from a tie to to to back off seen He would lose to receive two. That shot to the putter. Yeah that's that's another heartbreaking. Us Open runner. That's the same term. He made the double number seven where they lost. The Green. Goose is a is a interesting character. I don't know anything about goose. Was a killer there for a little unless he kind of came on the scene and then left just as quickly. But he's kind of been killing the champion's tour. We talked about Randy Senate the US. Open W auto killer. Status Guy had like two and three. So is Lee Johnson. The Jackal then is it like one of the Tier. Two cats that too. So that's in June in September Phil Signs. An endorsement deals with callaway after ending his title Steal Sixteen months early Word comes out on previous fall. Two Thousand Three Phil took heat from tireless after he phoned a callaway Rep. Who had helped his brother with equipment. supposedly callaway played the voice mail. Phil Left Forum at its national salesman meeting sick that so we're going back to tyler. Tyler was less than pleased not happy. They agreed to terminate the contract. Sixteen months early That's September two thousand four also in September two thousand and four two weeks. Later Phil goes to the Ryder Cup. Where Captain Hal Sutton Pairs? He and Tiger together in two matches. They lose both. They lost in. Four-ball demonte padre tune one and then they lost in all shot to Darren Clarke in Westwood Clark and Westwood bogeyed eighteen Instill beat Tiger and Phil Phil said about the experience later. Vote alternate shot. You play with one ball and that was the issue. Mickelson said Tiger found out the year before when we played at the Presidents Cup. That the golf ball I was playing was not going to work for him. He plays a very high spin ball. And I play very low spin ball. We had to come up and we had to come up in two days with a solution so I grabbed a couple dozen of his balls. I went off to the side and I tried to learn his golf ball in four or five hour session on kind of an isolated One of the other holes out there trying to find out how far the ball goes forced me. Stop my preparation for the tournament to stop shipping. Stop putting and stop sharpening my game and stop learning the golf course in the history of my career. I've never ball tested two days prior to Major. I've never done. It doesn't allow me to play my best with allows me to play. My best is to learn. The course sharpened my touch on the Greens. Sharpen my chipping out of the rough and ball striking and so forth instead. I'm taking four or five hours. I'm out trying to learn another ball to allow us to play our best. Had we known a month in advance. We might have been able to make it work. I think we probably would have made it work. But we didn't know until two days prior. This is where Phil comes back to. I'm not trying to knock anybody here. No offence to anyone actually love. How decisive Captain Sutton was. I feel like that's a sign of great leadership to be decisive. Had we had time to prepare. I think we would have made it work and could have had. Some success apparently was so bad. He was struggling with a ball so bad that he didn't WanNa do it on the south course anymore so he went to the north course to hide away from all the fans trying to figure out the golf ball. That's how bad but his game was also not in good shape. I think at that point and try to limit the golf ball but it was. It was so far off the planet that he didn't want to do it in front of isn't that Kinda Alpha that without even any conversation. He's he just seeds to to the cats ball. Well yeah I mean it's a cat. We play my mom but that the interesting thing and all of that was you so much is made of Phil deciding to change equipment sponsors but it was kind of dry for one support the move. I think he couldn't have made it better. There was some conjecture too as to whether you know Vegas played a role in it. Some potential accounts payable. I was hoping that would come up. I have tried to source that back to something and I just wonder if that's one of those Gulf rumor things that just became truth and I've never been able to get it like hey like of course it's hard to get them to go on the record. That was the case. That was gambling debts. That were part of the reason. I'm sure that was a factor in his decision. Making in you know. I don't know in wanting money sponsored. I have no idea but I can't get that. That's just kind of became one of those lower things on with a few other Gulf rumors. Excuse Michael Jordan. Yeah just like sh l. out there that are there's no basis effect. I can't find any basis in fact I'm not saying it's not true. I don't know if that is as factual people make it out to be November of that year Phil shoots a fifty nine at the PGA Grand Slam of Golf. His lowest scoring competition is that considered official fifty nine. Yeah is it yes? Go to Bermuda expert Neil for sure. Yeah it's a competition official fifty titian. Yeah they might not be like a tour time but it's a competitive fifty nine. Let's Billy Mitchell said. Can you let me know what he does? Gusta that's listen that's fair as as unofficial tournaments in minor tours. It's it's listed. So there's there's a lot of lot more of those so he is not listed gossip on the Wikipedia page as PGA tour fifty. Nine's those are the bits of furious. Fifty Eight geiberger Chip Beck Duval goydos. appleby feerick can jt. Adam had win branch net Accor- Kevin Chappell. Those you're fifty nine and PJ tourist. I didn't even know like half of those at the unofficial ones for the PGA tour. Maryam fifty eight in the US. Open qualifying round David. Gossett had a fifty nine at Q-school Phil Mickelson's at the PGA grandson of golf and Harrison Frazier at qualifying school tournament. Imagine going to q school shooting in the fifty S. What if you run into a fifty eight at the? Us Open qualify. That's been of the weird with them. One of the weird. You know big moments to topple during our golf lifetime. Yeah you know what I mean like. When that Reagan's sixty barrier yeah I mean divall was kind of like the most recent one I remember when I was younger and then member being a big deal. Yeah then who's WHO's after divall? Appleby is one of fewer anyways. But yeah now you don't have to go live shot at fifty eight a kingdom. Yeah off hope yeah whatever the military tribute means even more there. That's true it was the greenbrier classic. It's time no. It's a Military Tribune. Stricker shot Sixty Day goto chef. It's always been a military tribute in some form. Yeah it's just like you know you look at fills Fills wins did fill fill one. The new sponsor ghetto one so he fills technically won the Mexico Championship Twice now so geiberger did it in seventy seven chip beck did it in ninety-one Duval Ninety nine so divall was third and then. Goydos appleby both. It'd and ten. And then feerick did it. In Thirteenth furic might be the goat fifty nine because he beat everyone by at least seven or something. Yeah Kid was on site that day. I watch. It was fun. Let's roll to two thousand five Phil Wins three times early. In the year he wins at Phoenix. He wins a pebble and he wins the Bell South in Atlanta I don't know when exactly this happened. But in two thousand five he partners with Exxon Mobil he and he and his wife Amy Launch the Mickelson Exxon Mobil Teaching Academy Stem Initiative. Exact science which I think. Tcu's commercial gotta me at that time. No absolutely not. But those commercials they were on loop during the Masters Yeah. I'd also like to give a shout out to the Bellsouth Classic That year as well. It was shortened to a Fifty four hole event. He beat Arjun Atwal. Rich Beem brand job and Jose. Maria double play great stable of runner up there so April we go to the masters and I had forgotten about this. I WANNA I wanNA remind you after the first round this is from New York Post report has the New York Post has learned citing multiple sources. Who were eyewitnesses that Vj Singh and Phil Mickelson were involved in an explosive incident? Yesterday that escalated into an animated shouting match that nearly evolved into blows exchanged inside the Augusta National Champions Locker Room. This is such a such a New York Post after. Yeah the story goes sing. The number one ranked player in the world which you know because he was a complete manage that delivered. What one player called quote a completely classless move of quote clear gamesmanship when he complained to a masters referee about Mickelson spikes early in yesterday's completion of the first round? Sing playing in the group behind Mickelson summoned a referee at the twelve. Th Hole where he was playing at the time and complained that Mikkelsen spikes relieving large spike marks the green. The referee then caught up with Mickelson's group after teed off on thirteen and conveyed sings complaint mickelson according to an eyewitness the referee told. Nicholson another official is going to be sent out to file down his spikes causing one of Mickelson's playing partner. Stuart appleby crack. What are they going to send? A blacksmith. Report goes on the official with a file was never sent out and Mickelson continued playing in his own size twelve. Calloway issues The official said catch me outside. So according to buy senators mixing remain calm outwardly. Calm throughout this odd inquiry But according to sources the scene complaint infuriated Mickelson defending Masters Champ and later led to what one termed quote a serious altercation between the two players inside the locker room. Whoa I had not heard that Jay. Yeah Yeah I remember. Grinding my feet on failure spikes or too big. I will say one player. The New York Post story says one player who requested anonymity was shocked by seeing saying quote. You never do something like that in the middle of around. That's something you take up with. The player after the round is over three putts. I think T- fifteen. Vj there were some. Oh Yeah. There's some abusive abusive spike marks cleats in this in this era. Tc as a metal spike. I've already feel. I only play metal spikes when it's approved by the course that's that's the way he's area in the Greens for them. Unfortunately that was kind of the end of that incident That we know that we know of they you know. They didn't beat each other up or anything that we know that we know of so August is August of that year. Two thousand five. He wins a second major the PGA championship at Baltusrol wired wire shares a lead in in each of the rounds. Wasn't there skiing accident standpoint. Do we miss that? You know I don't have a skiing accident in my notes. Okay we can take that on fine if I could have one of my researchers. Look into that. I'm going to turn the calendar. Two thousand six is anybody. Remember the two thousand five. Pga Baltusrol Monday. Finish it you remember it. I winning now I like it could have been assimilation missiles. What you're getting that. Why was glued because again? I'm a big Fan. But he broke his legs. Skiing in flagstaff in Nineteen ninety-four according to New York Times which is a moment from. Oh five that kind of gets lost to history is before he goes to hit his approach into the eighteenth green and Baltusrol he goes over and taps Jack Nicklaus's plaque yes and then misses the green. I remember him battling elk as a write in there was also just going to your personal history in this will be a cardinals quarterback later on it was the year that Carson Palmer got his leg. Broken thy Chemo van. That was a tough scene. So two thousand six in March. I found this interesting Durell. He hit a fan with his baugh. Broke the person's watch and gave them two hundred dollars April. He wins the the bell south thirteen stroke shirt. Victory Thirteen shop. Victory had two drivers in the bag. That was it. I think that might have been hold on. Let me see what the last year the best two more years Zach. Johnson won the next year over. Ryoji Amata in the worst playoff. Tv sugarloaf and then Regina Motto One of the following year. Tv sugarloaf over. Kenny Perry your boy. But Yeah Phil Phil wanted minus twenty eight forever putting to bed the the phrase if you have two drivers do you really have exactly well. So he takes the drivers. What was the point of the two driver? Well he takes the two drivers in the bag. Augusta and the reasoning is one is. He didn't want to change his swing so he said he can make the same swing with each driver and one was like an inch shorter and promoted a fade and one was longer and with the same. Swing promoted a draw. I was actually playing T- drivers at the same time for three years. God that makes way more sense and trying to draw so yeah the reasoning was. He could make the same swing and the ball would react differently. What did he take out doing? I don't know exactly what is taking like wedges out at Augusta I think I think it was three. I don't think he had a three. Maybe three I don't know what will he three from like driver to like driver driver to iron but he could hit one of the drivers really well off the ground too so he wins. It worked for him. It was the Masters Second Green Jacket. He's now won two majors in a row and we go to the. Us Open in June of two thousand and six a win at the USO. Talk Joining Tiger Jack and Ben Hogan as the only people to win three consecutive majors in the modern era the final round. He held a two stroke lead after the fifteenth hole on Sunday at Wing Foot. He bogeyed sixteen and he parred seventeen. He has a one shot. Lead standing on the seventy second hole to win three majors in a row Of course I don't have to tell you guys what happened next. You can't wind. Absolutely crushing flows is Dr Felix. Baumgartner way love coming home. Left of left tries it. Unbelievable recovery doesn't I I just. I don't WanNa don't feel that bad for him for that one. I feel bad for Monte people. Forget Yeah People. Forget Jim Furic. Bogeyed eighteen to miss a potential playoff by one. Shot over mega up and down wanting doubleday team said thirteen. I thought he chipped in on eighteen as Meghan. Nippy headed up to accom- Eclipse Bureau mickelson would be quoted in Allen ship. Nex Post game pieces saying quote. I'm still in shock that I just did that. I can't believe I just did that. I'm such an idiot. It was crushing. I gotTa say it was absolutely crushing. Did you cry no? I didn't cry. I just remember? It was just like just numbness. I remember watching that and when he hit the drive off the hospitality tent. I was like Whoa sick. Like this is awesome and then as progressive as when I was like Oh this this think oh no like oh he's GonNa get in trouble. He's fine and then it was like. Oh my God he blew it. I think may whereas my brother-in-law you guys know is the biggest tiger woods fan and so just like the text messages and good piece of Shit See. You didn't do it because that was your dad over there. You wins that. He's he's he's on tigers level at that point in time like he almost surpasses tiger as like. Yo It's he's he's the captain and now would have been. What three hundred zero is he though? Ogilvy Japan on seventeen a Polish fear. I don't think he's surpassing tiger at that moment. In time. I think absolutely the power holding three three majors concurrently going for the slam But where it was the open. Six and then the cat researches himself yeah so exactly Nothing much to report the residue thousand six two thousand seven Make the cut at the at the open and willing I didn't write that in my notes. I think he did. He wasn't competitive. E The oh six. He Tiger Twenty Two tiger missed the cut. Those six raptors dad died horribly unprepared but yeah so he would've won three in a row and tigers coming off. I agree I think. Power ranking wise. I'm not saying that the careers match but at that point in Time Inc. Mickelson's the new like he's the new he's Alpha. Yeah maybe a DUMB QUESTION. Was He number? One in the world up to the never never had ever may okay on that a little bit but so two thousand seventy switches coastal every player of the year. Never number one. Yeah he draws real and goes to butch harmon in April in May wins the players. Did we ever get into politics? If you don't have a your notes but I've always been curious how him and Rick Smith got together. I don't know much about Ric Smith his his association with Phil. I don't I don't have that. I think facts until the story like he worked with Rick Smith and Smith famous for on the range like somebody you hit a bad shot and then hit another one in. You'd hit it well mixed with big. That was better. No offense no offense two thousand and eight. I found this interesting. He was inducted into the National Italian American sports hall of Fame Rats. Here we go back to the players. Sure do you think that's the most unlikely victory of his career or the British or I was Gonna say that or the British open but yes. It was tremendously unlikely unlikely. But he wearing the turtleneck the mock turtleneck. Well it's such a precise golf course off the tee like you can't spray the ball you can't essentially any. It's not a good core set up for fills type of mistakes where you know if you miss wide usually that means you're in the water at Sawgrass Or if you go for a flag like your hand in a cookie jar you're probably not getting it up and down that. Interestingly enough that was the first year they switched to May and I would think is game would be better for March like Y- overseas easier to hit out of I think than like Spongy Bermuda. Yeah I don't really remember exactly how that course played in the first time it may but interesting even he himself later on like you missed a couple of years ago. I was like how yeah. He's he's when he said. I'm going to skip it like Phil Three Point Zero the last few years. Yeah so June two thousand eight. He finishes Type Eighteenth at the. Us Open The only thing I wanted to bring the group's attention was he did not carry a driver in his bag. Would later years later say quote? That was a mistake. So the king the over correct. That was recently. It's like okay. I'm getting old well. Guess what I'm just going to try to hit it as far as I can. It's like yeah it's a complete over correct for no reason which which northern trust Rivero victory was it. Oh eight or nine or the guy rolls down the hill later. Thirteen year. Bill Haas one. You're taking us out of chronological. I thought back. Raise your hand if you want to ask you a question in this class. I'm sitting right next to teach otherwise pipe down so the not caring and driver in the bag would later say that that was he would he would say what a great idea that. I'm going to play with a three wood and then I missed the fairway with the three. Would that was ridiculous. That didn't work out. Which again is where I like. Why do I like him? He's honest he you know. He December two thousand eight is. He seems on thinking about certain things he says interesting things. That's a savings. Big oddest thousand eight December stevie Williams is quoted in the Taranaki Daily News. As saying he wouldn't call Mickelson a great player quote. Because I think he's a bleep. I I don't know I don't know what word he was intimating. Except it's an expletive trash bag non class action in an interview. The next day with another New Zealand newspaper The Sunday Star Times Williams confirmed making the comment instead. It was no secret that they don't get along tiger kind of scolded stevie publicly. And you know that was that was the Mickelson after seeing mickelson would say after seeing Steve Williams comments. All you could think of was how lucky to have a class act like bones on my bag representing me those moments those are the votes. That's what he's at his best when he's played chess like class act. Chess is just like I know as you say I would take like a cartoonish high road. Was there ever. Because I think we're probably out of that. Timeframe was there ever a tournament or a juncture where he could have ascended to number one TC? I couldn't have fed better question to ask me in March. Two thousand nine Mickelson closes to within zero point five two points of tiger in the official world golf ranking which equates to essentially you would threaten to pass them for the number one or for the number one ranking for the first time essentially. I think sorry this is win. March two thousand nine. So after the cat's been on the mega exactly which which plays a part into it Essentially it came down to like if tiger misses the cut in one week. If Phil were to win and Tiger Cut. He would've passed him would have massive Astros though. Because it's crazy tires on a shelf for like eight months wasn't he? He should he feel he should have gone to Europe. Well I think somebody Japan to FILL SEASON BY SEASON. I believe in March. Two thousand nine Mickelson tiger came back at bay hill. It was at one week where Tiger emcees at Bay Hill and Phil does really well in his next term in which I believe was the shell Houston. They would flipped and Tiger. Wins Bay Hill. And PHIL MISSED THE CUT AT HOUSTON MOTHERFUCKER CLASS. Act like bones on the bag at least right May Two thousand nine. Amy Mickelson was diagnosed with breast cancers and Phil Suspense as PGA tour schedule to be with her through treatment. He only the off he only made two starts between May and August of that year which was the US. Open the week prior to the US Open whereas to starts which that US Open. He tied the elite on Sunday on the sixty seventh hole at bethpage and then promptly misses a short birdie on the sixty eighth told three putts the sixty ninth hole eventually. Finish two shots back. Lucas Glover tough scene. It's the toughest Dave is. Dave Duale was up there too. Yeah I know which was finished. Remember miserable because of the weather Whether it's like when the Monday finish now bethpage but it was just all these guys are my God. Just want filler. David Duval the win slope leading out. Louis Glover turns out. He's a great guy but you know but it's not who anybody. We didn't know that at the time. Yeah although he was I think. Didn't someone say the last sexual qualifier to to win a believe? So yeah I think that's right July two thousand nine Phil's mother. Mary is diagnosed with breast cancer. Phil pulls out of the British open to be with her wins the tour championship that September And then we roll into twenty ten January. Scott McCarron comes after blasts Phil Mickelson cheating because Phil uses a square grooved Ping eye two wedge at Torrey Pines we McCarron of all people. Nicholson for cheating. Mccarron say quote. It's cheating and I'm appalled. Phyllis put it in play If I can set the stage for you Phil was among four players at Torrey using a ping eye two wedge that was made twenty years ago and has square grooves. Such groups are now banned on the PGA tour because of the US. J. Regulation that says irons have to have V SHAPED GROOVES. But that was a sick wedge. The square one of those for lying wedges remained legal because a lawsuit that Ping filed against the US j. That was settled in nineteen ninety Under the terms any ping I two made before April first nineteen ninety remains approved because it takes precedence over any rule change so he was using a twenty year old wedge the PGA tour. Can't you just picture? Well let me explain to you what happened was Carson Solheim in in the people vs well and Mickelson would say quote. It's terrible rule to change something that has this kind of loophole is nuts. Mickelson said but it's not up to me or any other player to interpret what the rule is or the spirit of the rule. I understand black and white and I think that myself or any other player is allowed to play those clubs because they're approved end of story so this was almost Mickelson like needling. Like how dumb it all was. This is where we started this living performance art. Yes this is to to set the stage now. I believe both fill in solitaire team. Kpmg at this point is that right. Well we are on the same team at this point so I I have to recuse myself from this conversation. That was Tori early February Mickelson's taking the wedge out of place this past March. Tony Tan Mickelson allegedly transfers. Nearly three million to Gregory Silva Vira a former sports gambling handicapper acting as a conduit for an offshore gambling operation. Silveira would plead guilty in two thousand fifteen to three counts of money laundering funds from quote an unnamed. Gambling client multiple sources. Identified that client to be Phil Mickelson. Three point five million. It was like two point. Seven five million. Sheesh you gotta remember this is in two thousand ten so it's that's twenty ten dollars post recession on April twenty ten. He would win his third green jacket the win for the family. That's exactly right. That was NANCE's call because the the breast cancer stuff before and it was just a jab at tiger That's true I didn't. I forgot about that. That's right. That was tigers first masters back after a escalating he birdied the seventy second hole on that one. That's where he went on the Westwood and Friday was in the mix. Yeah Phil would not win. He didn't have any more to her. Wins the rest of twenty ten but in August two thousand ten? He announced he had been diagnosed with three attic arthritis and he had plans to go vegetarian and hopes to aid the treatment. That's at the end of twenty ten. I remember preamble. I tweet some day but I remember. This doctor. Friend of mine was talking about this. He's like do you like you would not believe when all those fucking commercials came out at that time every like fifty to seventy year old man within a hundred miles of the hospital would come in with sore knee. I'm pretty sure I got this oriented arthritis thing so I I need to. I need that Enron stuff. That's talking authorized if you just prescribe me with that. No you're just old. No that's not what it is in the spring of Twenty Eleven Phil officially begins a campaign for Amgen Pfizer as a paid endorser for the drug to treat PSORIATIC arthritis. That's the commercial rate where he puts the puts the rake back at grab. It looks like he's about that's enough guard dealing with this is fun. I can't talk Tony. Eleven T to at the at the British Open. Well I want to take you to January of twenty eleven gun seek. I take your hand Torrey Pines trails bubba Watson by two shots on Eighteen Eagle as bones. Go attend the flag on a seventy two yard explaining the decision. Mickelson said quote when I get a wedge shot for seventy two yards. I usually fly within a yard. Ninety five percent of the time I remember that if Taibbi like ninety five percent of the time he was trying to fly a pass and spin about well he wanted to give you one one to fly into the whole directly on the on the spin back and that's why I wanted bones dependent on the sped. Folks tells that story stuff he was look. I think this is right. Same whole he's looking back into the sun and he's terrified he's going to get hit by the ball because the tend to think about that he wedges it to like tuna feet wasn't great shot very good shot but then he loses by one. A Bubble Watson won that day Baghdad. Jerry Yeah April Twenty. Eleven wins a shell Houston Open. I was really impressive win. I remember that he he shots like sixty three sixty five on the weekend. And you're like Oh man. He's he's prime. Yeah I remember that too. Wasn't he like way he's weighed. Left on Golic up and down out of the trees the replays assault on the weekend. Yeah and you're like. Oh man he's either going to win the masters by million or he's GonNa totally flame out because he's blown load this week which he didn't win them did not win the masters show shorts on July as as associate T- said Fish Tie for second bridge open where he briefly shared the final round lead after a front nine thirty. That was the one Darren Clarke would go on win. Dj hit his infamous Shank out of bounds. so to give a sense a fill at this time he's the second highest paid is at the end of two thousand eleven. He's the second highest paid American athlete. He's earning about sixty two million dollars a year. Fifty three of those from endorsements from taxes the gambling that's a takeover of extended we roll into twenty twelve. And this is maybe one of the more impressive wins of his career at an February at the eighteen. T Pebble Beach pro-am where he shoots a final round sixty four. He's paired with tiger. He beat Tiger by eleven shots. You remember you getting really hostile with good var paying it back to him. Charlie was runner up. That's right that's exactly right because then would say quote. I just feel really inspired when I play with him talking about woods. Class Act on the back. Can't overstate how much that impact this. The dynamic right. Because he's working with butch and a lot's being made of like how? Bush is giving him like the the mental tips to be able to play with tiger and so this was starting to pay it off. That's the year he does the thing with. Romo or he hung out. Romo was Tigers partner and he got dinner with room. Oh the night before and like Romo didn't tell tiger. He was doing that so first. Fairway Grill out. Hey Hey Tony Great. Time at dinner last night man looks back over at Tony. Like all pissed off. I couldn't believe he was dining with the enemy. You got a class act on the back at this point is well. That's true. Thank you Byron. Vel Not no longer twenty seven during twenty twelve. I duNNo. Dj. You probably would know. He's a -ducted into the World Golf Hall of fame sure. I don't know what time of year there's usually the players I believe. Okay so it was there as well because he was staying. The fame gave an exceptional speech had put some really cool stuff in his locker. Had this Ping Pong Ping Pong Paddle? Locker had a very plain in there just because he was fascinated by doesn't happen flyer. Yeah that was. I think. The last Hall of fame induction ceremony. Everyone was it was fun. Peter was got in as well do the army himself around her. He has flown himself in the cockpit in his private jet. Sometimes what is this? What year did he fly home for something during the US Open? And then come back. Get their September of Twelve Mickelson. This is all. According to a sworn affidavit by mickelson's business manager Nicholson pays. Billy Walters nearly two million dollars to cover a debt related to quote sports gambling. That this will come up later We roll the calendar. Twenty Thirteen January twenty thirteen Phil causes a stir when he says publicly he will have to quote make drastic changes due to new California in. Us Tax laws takes a lot of heat for this again. He's making about sixty three million dollars a year later apologized for saying this things out loud and walked back his comments we fast forward to twenty twenty though and phillies moving from California to Florida. I think this was The time where he was doing when all the like You know paying under the table for the gambling stuff. When he was doing the weird press conferences where he was just there. I remember one still vividly where everybody can see him from the media center out it is parked car with Steve Loy and I think maybe and they were just standing there like his press conference was supposed to start at like eleven or whatever it was like eleven twentyfive and he's just literally standing fifty yards from the media center. Just stay there talking like clearly like going over like fuck like what are we about to say. All the media's basically just period through the window at a like take pictures like what's he gonNa say they comes eight it just kinda slow news week. What's what's going on guys at each is all cut like dairy charming and I don't know I'm sure it worked February of that year. Two Thousand Thirteen. He lives out on eighteen at. Tpc Scottsdale for would have been fifty nine in the opening round. He does go on to win the tournament. June we go to the US. Open at Marian. I believe it was when flew home early. The week for graduations are what was the year though that the F. B. I. picked him up for questioning this memorial. This'll be late because all that stuff comes out publicly. I believe in twenty fifteen. Okay Gotcha. Yeah so twenty thirteen Mister Medical Center is a special agent. Here yeah US Open. Marian Phil holds eighteen thirty six and fifty four hole leads on Sunday. He three putts three and five for double bogey. Then he Holds the Wedge on ten for Eagle to get back in the lead he was. Chelsea with Mike Davis. The whole week was three the three. Yes three hundred yards. You couldn't even get through because you weren't carrying a driver and Franken is this franken would isn't it might be. I think he has a driver here. I think maybe the most critical mistake more than his drive wing foot was the airmail wedge on thirteen. Which leads to Double Boat Era? Which leads to bogey seven hundred five yard? I think yeah so now he trails Rosie by one shot fill. Misses a Birdie. Putt on sixteen which was kind of his last shot. He eventually finished tied for second. This in two thousand thirteen his sixth runner up a US Open July twenty thirteen. He goes over to Scotland wins the Scottish open and then Follows that up in twenty thirteen with a final round. Sixty six Muirfield to win. The British open started the day. Five shots behind Lee Westwood Phil birdied seventeen and eighteen bones would call the final round. The Best of Mickelson's career mickelson would later say quote. I argue I played arguably the best round in my career and shot around in my life range of emotions. I feel are as far apart as possible after losing the US Open. But you have to be resilient in this game. I remember hearing after that people like I can't believe won. The British open hits it high. But then listen to this. He came second the year before Darren Clarke so really wasn't like he was kind of turn the corner at some point. I think is ball. Flight was at least adjustable. At that point his career he was able to fight it down in the knockin on his he would go over there and hit these flop shots hitting shots off the hard pan and finally kind of adapted the playing style required for that kind. Of course I mean as I started fitting and really west. I nine or ten appearances. He didn't he finished inside the top. Twenty five one time. And then he got solo third in two thousand and four this look like an outlier. Yes scuffled a lot more and then and then eleven. Thirteen sixteen okay played. Well thank you know. That's a great point. The last thing twenty thirteen that I want to point out is Mickelson's design company opens the Aqua Championship course Kunming Shining Star International Club in Kunming China. One of my favorite mickelson designs. I found a review on planet. The early stuff it's exceptional playing golf dot com Oliver. Correct bear with me. I WanNa read to two paragraphs from it. The opening in the closing so the review says short drive from the capital of Kunming the ACA course Opened in twenty thirteen and what is designed collaboration between Mickelson his former coach Rick Smith and locally based American designer Joe Bringer the file paragraph L. Skip but says aside from the design itself the shaping here at the most basic imaginable in the vegetation planting makes little sense as some of the whole concepts. The feeling of playing in a flat field through artificial mounting is one that we doubt connoisseurs will enjoy unquestionably the best thing about the aqua experiences the caddies in there cutesy plaid plus for outfits the Eighteenth Holes. The other highlight as. It isn't awful ends the suffering. Not sure what the Shining Star developer expected for the millions. He paid Mickelson's design company. But it had to be more than what was delivered. Aside from the Mickelson name. There is nothing to get excited about here at all. You're ever in Qingming. China would encourage you to check out the course Maybe they've shown itself because as it's while still on his website So we go to twenty fourteen He misses the cut at the masters for the first time since one thousand nine hundred seven in. May of two thousand fourteen. The Wall Street Journal reports the F. B. I. S. S. C. C. Are Investigating feel and associates for insider trading in Clorox Stock Mickelson denies wrongdoing and later the investigation would find no evidence and be concluded without any charges total exoneration perfect trades in August. It's August twenty. Fourteen it's his only top ten of the season when he finishes second at the PGA one Hala where Mahala. Yeah where they invite. Rory and I believe Rick or ricky with Phil or ricky was with Phil. Yeah they play through because it's getting dark I think we're always out completely alfred them. That's they said I'm playing through. Yeah they might have mangled the end of that tournament. Weird look sick. That was awesome tournament though it it was a cool tournament. I that's that's a good Major course so twenty. Fourteen is the only is. It's the first season in ten years. That doesn't win on tour But he does play in the Ryder Cup that September and this is when he rips. Tom Watson saying no it wasn't it wasn't minute Tom Watson. You took it quote. Nobody here was in on any decision. Mickelson said at one point and loud. The system used earlier by Paula. Zinger in two thousand and eight mason quote unfortunately we have strayed from owning formula for the last three Ryder Cups. We need to consider maybe getting back to that formula. That helped us player. Best as the story goes Watson ripped the team Saturday night. Leaving everybody more or less speechless and then fill went player to player until like a nice story about each guy. So anyway Is that according to Phil Mickelson. Who I'm sorry took it. That way is in many ways to skin. Yeah so one of the people said Said one of the sources. I don't what article I got. This from quote. Mickelson was trying to lead the team and protect the team there when he put himself under the gun. Pretty good on Sunday night. He did that for a lot of people. South selfless exactly so. Let's go to twenty fifteen quickly finishes tied for second at the masters. It's the tenth major runner-up of his career. Which places him second? All Time to Jack Nicklaus. That's the one that speed one July he the only thing to note from the British Open. I thought this was funny. You can remember on seventeen at Saint Andrews. He hits his drive onto the balcony of the hotel. He makes triple. He was two shots off the lead at the time but makes triple. I didn't know that there. May I guess I'm a little out of order here May of that year up at the memorial in Columbus. I don't know if this is when he was like approach must be but I found a little anecdote that he stopped at a little kids roadside lemonade stand in paid for one dollar couple made with one hundred dollar bill until him to keep the change. What else happened that? I think. That's when yeah that must have been when when you approach by the agents. It was like pretty dramatic. Came up to him in the locker room. They were on site at moral. I remember right and like whisked him away for questioning how disappointed Jack must have been. Oh man the feds able in September twentieth. Fifteen their plans to design and build Mickelson National Golf Club outside Calgary Which is actually set to open later in two thousand twenty but obviously we'll see with everything going on. It's must be cool. Yeah for good things. Yeah which you know if it's like whisper maybe we'll be He leaves Bit Butch Harmon in Two Thousand Fifteen Forbes magazine estimates Mickelson's annual income around fifty one million Twenty sixteen he hires Andrew gets in his new swing coach In January of two thousand sixteen there is a stir when Ryan ruffles is quoted talking about a gambling incident with Mickelson. Ruffles says quote. We get to the I T. It's pretty early in the morning advocacy and ruffles is now quoting Mickelson. Saying I don't wake up this early to play for anything less than twenty five hundred dollars the forty two time. Us PJ tour gave ruffles two to one odds. If one Mickelson will give them five thousand dollars if he lost ruffles would have to pay up. Twenty five hundred after he turns pro reveiz seventeen year old. Amateur at this point Rebel says I was a few down through nine but then I birdied six my last seven to win by one shot and took his money so that was pretty cool. Mugabe's in please this all got made public quote. He's young and he's got some things to learn talking about ruffles. One of them is. You don't discuss certain things. You don't discuss specifics play for you. Certainly don't embellishing create a false amount just for your own benefit so those things right there are. That's high school stuff and he's going to have to stop doing that now that he's out on the PGA tour. You only publish it. If it's your forty two to one winning the super bowl or the diamondbacks winning the world series at what point does fill. Start palling around with all these young guys. That's always been kind of a red flag for me when he started when he started having this romance with with Keegan. And we're deepen the scale and Rubio's do the practice round so the other age don't really want to hang out with kind of the same way right like gts all those guys. They're mentoring the next generation the passenger onto easy just it's placed hitters. Come on them fast. But he's played magic's gets high schoolers money. Being Kiana I said May two thousand fifteen I actually think it might be may twenty sixteen when he was approached because on May nineteenth twenty sixteen Mickelson was named as a relief. Defendant in another. Sec complaint alleging insider trading Dean Foods Affair Yes. This was the dean foodstuff now. This this is kind of complicated. I read a lot of French. Onion dip dean foods so deal with. Cpg companies. Well let me let me set the stage for you. The FBI approached him in two thousand fourteen after his round. Soka all right So that must have been the clorox stuff so this this action stems from Trades and Dean Foods Twenty twelve in conjunction with confidential information provided by Thomas Davis who was a former director of Dean Foods Company. Also linebacker for Thomas Davis tipped his friend and HIS FRIEND IS BILLY. Walters obviously the professional sports better. The SEC did not allege that walters actually told Mickelson of any material non public information about Dean foods but Mickelson made trades around Dean foods. He'd never made any trades previously with Dean foods and He cleared a profit of nine hundred. Thirty one thousand from Trading Trading Dean Foods. Walters gets convicted in twenty seventeen of making forty million on this Thomas. Davis's private information between the years. Two Thousand Eight twenty fourteen. So this Dean Foods. Exec is is feeding billy walters private information about teen foods walters using it to to make investments on Dean Foods. Now why is he doing that? Because Thomas Davis had gambling. Debts to billy walters so this was like his way of share. Repaying that at one point Mickelson walters two million dollars. I think that's when Walters told Mickelson. Hey you should invest in Dean Foods. I think something good's going to happen. Mickelson does profit and then uses that money to pay back. Walters so we got this whole like insider trading web Going on 'cause I had I was allegedly. Explain that is allegedly. I was thinking Mickelson's I can. I can imagine him trying to explain this like Investment Dean Foods. I you know I just love their French onion definitely and I liked Yoko rocks to the counters. And I'd like to invest in companies. That I I use respect and love. I forget if this is like a widely publicized story but this is shortly after. This is When couture also during it was during rain delay or something comes into the locker room at some pg to prevent Dean foods now is they send for meal. I think it at yes. Yes yes yes. Okay pill come sit with US and like cooter takes office sweater and has a dean foods shirt as soon as phil sits down. That's pretty good life. I did shortly after that So Mickelson this is where. It's like convoluted Mickelson X. Essentially never gets formerly charged And at one point he pleads the fifth and refuses to testify Walters. Billy Walters never cooperated with the authorities so investigators are able to learn what if anything he told. Nicholson about the source of his information about Dean foods liver inches get stitches situation. Exactly fill lanark well so the government has no proof that Mikkelsen intended to violate is intent. But what the FCC did do was they named Mickelson. I said as a relief defendant in a civil case. Meaning that agency believed that. He profited from insider trading even if he didn't engage in it himself So Mickelson settled the civil case by agreeing to surrender his trading profits of nine hundred thirty one thousand plus interest and in doing so Mickelson neither admitted nor denied. The allegations of the complaint. Is that Alford play. It sounds a lot like an. Yeah which which we know all about. Yeah so that's kind of the best I can. I can summarize that whole operation was because Billy Walter Never cooperated. Mickelson essentially pleaded the fifth and was able to like not testify. Anything publicly. Would Mickelson going to jail for an extended period of time or prison. Federal power in the asset century. Would that be equivalent to like? Mike Vick getting arrested on federal dog fighting charges just as far as the Mike Vick Ones Luma visser shocked. I think it'd be like the Martha Stewart Martha dogfighting on a different level. Because there's a lot of emotion there's so much more just for how shocking like Martha Stewart Creek one of my favorite golfers going to prison. Well I think Martha Stewart like in her will was like this wholesome popular character. People Really Martha Stewart insider trading. But Yeah Mickelson you know he wiggles out of that. I don't know if this is in your notes. But isn't like there. Billy Walters Book that's GonNa come out. That supposedly is not going to be great for Mr Mickelson already. Come out okay. Yeah I don't know have my attention though I could be. I don't know what what would have no source for that. That's that's the alleged of alleged right there. So this is all May Twenty Sixteen July of Twenty sixteen we go back on the course and Mickelson shoots and opening around sixty three at the British open. tying at that time the the major record for low around Inner is of course one stroke behind stance and going into Sunday and Phil shoots a bogey-free sixty five but loses by three shots because Henrik shoot sixty three on that Sunday which I think it was on the Fifteenth Club or someone Jake Nickell. There's somebody put together like a an analysis of the best performances in major championship. History and fill that we put forth the fifth best performance in major championship history. I was Troon Hendrix. Such a attended the second best performance like that. Not only should he have won. He like legit was one of the greatest performances major history. That's a good say we have a couple of stats to go along with that. Mickelson finished Mickelson. As runner-up finished eleven shots clear of third place which is a major record. Whoa I forgot about that. He's seventeen hundred remember and the next guy was like six and then that Henderson eighteen or twenty. Yeah birdied the last one last Middle Finger Mickelson's to sixty seven score is the best ever for British Open runner-up and it's the second lowest. Major runner-up score behind Jordan spieth Nicholson's to sixty six at the two thousand one PGA. It's his eleventh runner up now on a major So yeah that's wild fall of twenty sixteen. I don't know the exact date Mickelson as two surgeries for sports hernia issues. Twenty seventeen is kind of a light year He comes back but I think quicker than anybody really expected from the Sports Hernia. The the one thing that I wanted to note at the US in two thousand seventeen he withdraws from the US Open To attend his daughter Sophie as High School graduation and then two weeks later in June He and bones partways so as first reported by. You WanNa give some some color in that. Yeah it was. That was a weird wild night. I was big so I just quit my job. I was living in Amsterdam and I was moving back to the states but I'd started kicked off like a month and a half trip through the UK. that I was doing before I moved home. This summer of solid. Yes it was what it's been known as and We got a text from a well Source individual that says. Hey guys can't say anything yet but bones and filler announcing tonight that there there's going separate ways I'm like Oh my God I can't say anything so I'm actually playing a round of golf at Brora and I tell guys I'm playing against anything but I'M GONNA be on my phone because there's GonNa be some news breaking at some point while we're out here that Bones a filler breaking up and I check my phone a few holes later night miscall from bones and I was like whoa. That is really bizarre So I call him back and I'm like. Hey and ironically he had told me he's like you gotta go see this Bra Place. You have to go see it. I'm like dude. You're GONNA believe this. I'm playing right now. He's like no way. I won't keep you long. Just hey check your email. I got something for you and I was like okay. What's up he's like? Oh no nothing just like check your email and I knew what it was that I'd act like I didn't so I check my email next forty five minutes. And he had said he sent to a bunch of people that he knew in media or whatnot. But I don't know if he tipped off anyone else but I had just been checking email so I was able to break the news. I is this fake the whole this was right before I think the whole and So I I'm so distracted during whatever tweet goes out. I'm so distracted during this round and it off on the fourteenth hole. And I call them. I hit a really good dry calm back and I'm like hey you know really appreciate you the tip. Like let's let's catch up Blah Blah Blah. And then. That's when I go up there and like I'm kind of looking for the ball but not really some checking my twitter mentions going nuts and all this and we got there. I made a whole part for any opportunity. I get to work then. What it was a wild wild wild night world so yes that's June of Twenty seventeen twin seventeen hundred Mickelson's worst seasons on worry misses the cut then at the British and the PGA. At what point did he did? He start working out and getting rid of the was it. Subsidies fat well. I think that I think that coincides with something. I'm going to get to so let's go to twenty eighteen march. He ends a winless drought on tour. Which is stretching back to the two thousand thirteen British open with a victory at in Mexico at the WGC though awesome great. Final Awesome Day. Yeah Justin Thomas had his whole out on the seventy second hole and in the playoff April. The only thing I wanted to know here was Was the unveiling fills golf shirt which made appearance in the master's practice round with tiger. Which was wild yeah. There's a lot of wild stuff in that sentence in June at the US Open. I don't know if you guys remember the third round of the US Open Phil would shoot in eighty one. The highlight being He would hit his ball before it came to rest on the thirteenth hole What would be two shot penalty? Phil would say look. I mean no disrespect to anybody now. Intend to disrespect. I know it's a two-shot penalty and at the time I just didn't feel like going back and forth and hitting the same shot over took the two shot penalty and moved on. It's my understanding of the rules. I've had multiple times where I've wanted to do that. I just finally did come up very quickly. Like hey dude you couldn't take it. Unplayable replayed from the previous spot. He tried to paint that as the smart decision. And it was one hundred percent not any yet tarred feathered while Curtis strange asked them if it was disrespectful to the championship and Mickelson said that it wasn't the case he quote. It certainly not meant that way. It's meant expect to take advantage of the rules as best you can. In that situation I was just going back and forth. Gladly take the two shots or continuing that display hug. It is that though to see like someone's brain just short circuit on like I literally not hitting the shot again. Basically the next guys feel about it what he saw the first sick. I was withdrawing. He was going to withdraw. I remember getting a text I think from my brother like Oh my God like Mikkelsen. Just lost his mind losing his mind. Yeah I was like. Oh my God this wall. They were losing. The course to it was shocking. That was a good day. Yeah it was really shocking. I really wish that Putt that he hit. When he like jabbed had gone sweet the next week he did. Walk it back a little bit. He got back down apology he said. I know this should have come sooner. But it's taken me a few days of calm down my anger and frustration. Got The best of me last week. I'm embarrassed and disappointed by my actions. It was clearly not my finest moment and I'm sorry which was a good apology Sally and I were in Chicago at that time at the KPMG Women's PGA events and When I got to meet my fill for the first time in my life Madame at soldier field and I was thinking possibly possibly could be the tallest combined height of to Phil's anytime anywhere thinking Phil Jackson and Phil Blackmar have met each other or until I meet one of those guys Phil. Six three is a unit. Bill that you were Jay. Cutler 'cause you you tend to look like Jay Cutler he did not mistake me for Jay Cutler anything you guys like taking a picture together and you were doing a video like there's a video of this whole via video like well I was. I remember him. Golden for like the Like the picture and you're like no it's okay he He played along though. And I I can't say of. This was a throwaway two minutes for him but like he was he was really good that day. I you know he was impressive with the kids and I don't know he turns it on the sponsor stuff breath super nervous August. You'll remember the Mizzen and main commercial areas with Phil dodging golf balls on the driving. Range bone boom bump bump we did our own spoof. September is a captain's pick for the Ryder Cup. He goes on to though as the. Us loses irresponsible captain's picks of all time. November is the match. I think we all had our own thoughts and feelings with the match Phil trying to win. The match took home the nine million dollar prize Very Awkward Playoff. Yeah and then. Wrote a check to billy walters at the same time the infamous Mickelson or the JAYCO and story about Mickelson at Speiss wedding. I don't know if you remember that. Where Owens essentially went up and complain to him about this technology work can watch the match and you know. He wants his money back filter. One hundred dollar bill through to Jayco and said Go. F Yourself I think it was kind of ingest jest but There's more to essentially Philip saying one hundred dollars bill. Just one like ninety thousand ninety thousand nine thousand of these nine million dollars. Do you think they split the money. I think you one more than that. I think the split a separate pot. Yeah a split the money from the agreement in anything he did win nine million dollars. I never the whole match thing was just shadow tower. Friend the make RIB bigshot. Bob said it for breaking what's been thought was an open secret for the last couple of months yesterday on twitter about the match to the match to Brian Stadium Manning which I thought it was going to be at Muirfield Village. All the all the cove in nineteen stuff. It's a very fluid situation. It more fluid possibly here in here in Florida. Yeah so is this real quickly. We're in twenty nineteen. We're we're last year on course he Wednesday. Tnt Pebble Beach pro-am which was sick which was sick. It's his forty four th career. Pga Tour Win. He tried to Alpha Paul Casey. I thought kind of gusted on the last hole. It's his first. Pj WIN on American soil since two thousand twelve. At and T. O. Beach pro-am now. False twenty. Thirteen Phoenix opened. Two Thousand Thirteen Phoenix. Open still thanks. Tc Six years. Thank you TV. I regret the Air February. Also last year The PGA tour implemented their new rule allowing players to wear shorts during practice rounds and programs. Mickelson's cavs go somewhat viral. You Guys Tadic ads. Yeah good cavs out. No denying that he had to say about that June. The fireside chats with Phil failed on social media the social. I've got weird real quick. Can I put out a call for I can't find this tweet. And it's the hardest. I've ever laughed at a tweet when Phil does video when he rolls down Magnolia Lane. And he's like here. We are nothing better Saturday at Augusta hidden bombs and somebody spliced it with the scene from the office where Michael Runs into meredith off was the best ever see but I can't find it so if somebody knows where the where that is. Please send our way. You'll remember the first fireside. Chat video was the He tells the story of the two thousand six memorial when the officials out changing the Cup someone to get dumping the cost. Somebody took a dump in the Cup which may have been that may have been back in thousand six a you guys were there in two thousand. Thanks where the guy who is going after Nick Nick Price. Faldo very well the same year July to your you'd asked earlier. Tc about the Diet. He shared that he had completed a six day. Fast Mickelson had of nothing but water and a special coffee blend in Sawyer. Big on the he lost fifteen pounds. I think he was targeting. The what'd you call the sub subcutaneous fat. Yeah which he'd been talking about for a few years decades. Yeah I would say really yoked you guys just can't tell because I accept detainees fulfils. Been Fascinating at the beginning now. I don't know if you caught fascinating. But when he it's almost like it clicked firm with social media. He must get some type of Serotonin hit. It may be from gambling or something with like. Oh look at this I can. I can reach like an exponential amount of people then. I can't in my press conference but what from everything that we've been doing over the last two hours leads you to believe like he's not going to get super bored with what. Okay cool. What's next? Yeah I'M GONNA move to Florida. My favorite thing about the Diet and the novel Wake Server is like he's like fifty right. He's almost fifty and he he talks about it. Like yeah have always known this. This is how you do it. Of course this is what it does to you. And it's like dude. You had a lot of years of your pride that you could have been a norman quotes about him like yeah just come to weight training earlier like I knew about it but I just you know it's like which is it. Did you know about it or did you up? I just discovered yeah exactly. I think he's a sociopath in the best sense of the word. The ultimate come October a little. Now get for you guys. Last October Phil visited the Chinese city of Macau for the first time as against the Los Vegas Sands. I can only imagine the gambling you got into a cow. He build the cities McKell November to the coffee thing. An interview with I think owner Stephen Film made the claim. I drink coffee all day long in the last ten years. I've been sick a single day Dylan to chair for our friend Golf magazine published like three public. Instances where he has been sick and Shawn's Oct- From Golf Dot Com. Did the the six day coffee fast. Yes in early. I would encourage people to go read his face batch. If Tomorrow Mickelson teamed up with Jenny McCarthy and went on like a big anti thing. Would it surprise anybody in one sense? No but that's the thing he's always balanced like he's he's weird and he's out there but he's got like such a good understanding of how it plays publicly and also that you got to look at the the stem foundations a big man of science. Yeah I will say in all my personal dealings with them. He stay at the at the Ritz in buckhead regardless of where the tournament playing in Atlanta was or when he would go. Sometimes you'd have a corporate outing over at Peachtree Eastlake or wherever or if he was coming into Augusta a couple of days early for over there for the day and then to a corporate outing and always stay there regardless if it was at athletic club or wherever you like staying there and every single time he came in and he tipped every Bellman Doorman. One hundred bucks didn't do it in an ostentatious showy way and then he would wake up at like six. Am every morning and have breakfast down in down in the main cafe and read the Wall Street Journal and it was. It was remarkable like normalcy. In routine we got to the hotel stories trapped raw. There's a great call cons con's brother man so to put a bill on this. I guess the only like public thing. He drew heat for was in December. He announced he would play in the Saudi Arabia event. This year which he did go and play in he was really excited to see a little world that he's never seen before and all the haters he said quote. You'll be okay I'm to quote Kevin Hart. I`Ma Dumi wasn't that it. Yeah also the only thing to add He did not make nine thousand nine or excuse me did not make the two thousand Nineteen Presidents Cup. Which is the first time. He's missed an international team competition since nineteen ninety three Ryder Cup. Which I thought was. Did you mention the dual Sergio? Pretty interesting the Ryder Cup. Do you guys remember. They had Hazeltine Hazeltine and what shot like a worse ball. Sixty three years. Something crazy like the two of them. Just do it the whole day. That was that was one of the most remarkable things. I've watched agrees. Yeah kind of overshadowed by the Rory Reid. Yeah match but yeah. That was far better. I got two two things that stick out to me about. Phil's career in all that he's only one three WGC's which would seem like right up his alley cat WANNA mall. Let's through one. Two of them in non of two of his three or a donut and then the other one was. Wg Mexico and then. Also he's never won the Fedex Cup from I thought you can add Fedex Cup never been ranked number one. He's one like I said that this is kind of like my bow right. He turns fifty this year. One forty four times on the PGA tour is one five majors. Of course he's over. Ninety million dollars in encore earnings his. I thought this was an interesting stat. He's got twenty three top three finishes in majors which is third all time behind. Jack's forty six and tigers twenty-six always thought was not not perfect parallel but an interesting parallel for fill. Is Arnold Palmer? WanNa bunch majors. One major short of the career Grand Slam always played second fiddle. Basically to the dominant player in the era made a ton of money off the course the huge market Guy Beloved Guy People. Just tell me up. He took the thumbs up from Arni. Arni obviously more comic figure Game Golf. But there's a lot of parallels between Phil and Ernie I would also say one special projects that we've we have not been able to to do yet but I hope we can is having Phil or Phil are Randy. Walk Eighteen holes with Phil Mickelson and count. How many times he gives the thumbs up in the head. The head nod to the crowd just document every every single. I would love to know. How many times does that in one round? That was good when when when we get back to normal. That'd be a good project at at an at an event. So that'll shocked with Scott McCarron looking ridiculous so I hope maybe learned a little something. That was excellent man. That's that's a look into the life and career of Philip Alfred. Thanks for teaching today Mr Randy. Well guys hey homework get it done all right and enjoy yourself this weekend thing all right. Thanks very tune in chair. School Resource Beater Right Club today. Yes that's better than most about him is better than most. I don't expect anything.

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Mac Power Users 465: The Mighty Mac mini

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Mac Power Users 465: The Mighty Mac mini

"Mac. Power users episode four hundred and sixty five the mighty MAC mini. Hello, friends, David Sparkes here along with my friends, Stephen Hackett. How're you doing today? Stephen, david. I am good. Glad to be back in. We're gonna get nerdy bus MAC stuff today. Yeah. Mac mini the apple released. A new MAC mini. We've got a lot to talk about it. What you can do with it. I think a lot of people are wondering where does this fit my life? Or is there a place for it? Well, we're going to cover all of the options today. And maybe a MAC mini does fit in your life. But before we do that a couple preliminary announcements don't forget the Seattle meet up for automakers. And and frankly, MAC power users and all the other relay folks that we're going to have on January nineteenth. They're still maybe space for that. But it's filling up very quickly, and we'll put a link in the shutouts. Also, don't forget we're doing a live our users episode recording in Chicago in early March. And that is another one we're going to put the Lincoln the show notes, but it's filling up quickly. So please get in there if you're interested. Yeah, we love to see people on I'm so bummed. I'm not gonna make it to Seattle. I thought about a last minute trip, but it's not gonna paint out. But as a Kaga was going to be a whole lot of fun. We're excited to take the show on the road, and and get out and meet some people. And you know, I've heard there's something in Chicago in the in the early spring called snow, so we'll get to experience that that'll be fun. It's gonna be it's gonna be great Chicago will fake you out. You know, coming from California. I look out the hotel window in Chicago around this time of year, and it's like sunny, and it looks nice. I'm like, oh, great t shirt and shorts. Right. And then you walk out the door and the wind is coming up at lake and I think I'm going to die. Yep. It's pretty it's pretty exciting. I like Chicago. Yeah. I mean, it's it's a it's a fun place to go to do work stuff before we started. I would like to thank everybody for such the warm, welcome. Our previous episode has been up for a couple of days now when we record this, and I've got so many gracious and encouraging emails and tweets and messages in the forms. It's really nice to be. Welcomed into such a institution, like MAC, power user. So thank you to everyone. Who's who's taking the time to write me a note? It really means the world to me. So we're we're excited to get going. All right. So the MAC mini got an update it did it did what a great feeling for a while. We weren't sure if it was going to fade away into the night or or what was going to happen. But the got an update, but we thought we thought we'd take the MAC mini on today. But before we kind of talk about the most recent update, I guess there's a little bit of a history lesson involved there is and you have me now to talk about MEC history. So you told me my initial twelve patriot for this. You didn't accepts I short. The MAC mini came around in two thousand five it came in at a time where the ipod was just lying the world on fire. Right. The ipod was huge hit. And there's something called the halo effect. People would buy an ipod. And the next time they need a computer. They look at, you know, an ibook or PowerBook or something that, you know, because hey, it's made us people make my pod that works. Really, well, but the computers were well and to capitalize on this. Apple introduced the MAC mini. It's called the MAC mini. Meeting people understood the ipod mini, and we think they're going to understand the MAC mini just as well. It's a new member of the Mack family. And this is what it looks like it's very very tiny. And it has a combo optical drive. A slot load combo optical drives. So you can not only play DVD's, but you can burn CD's as well inside it, and it's really beautiful. It's got a bunch of cool things to it. It's quiet stuff. The slot load. Combo drive. It's got fire wire and USB to a modem analog and digital video output Ethernet, and it's really tiny. So this is a very robust computer, but it's very very tiny. It was what Steve Jobs called BYOD KM, which sounds like a NASA abbreviation, but it's a bring your own display keyboard and mouse, we supply the computer use supply the rest. So you can take MAC, mini, and you can hook it up to let's say are twenty inch cinema. This what? Right, and keyboard and mouse, but the great thing about MAC mini is you can up to any industry standard display, keyboard and mouse. A lot of people already have this sway in a US. Keyboard mouse. And so that's MAC many women up to almost any industry. Standard is way ward. Or mouse, the idea here was pretty simple, right? You've got a home PC a Dell or HP or something and you want to switch to the MAC will use by this little at the time four hundred and ninety nine dollar MAC, unplug. All the stuff from Europe plugged the same display, keyboard a mouse right into your MAC, and you were up and running. It was kind of made for Switzers and four ninety nine was the cheapest MAC of all time. I remember that price point really blowing my mind when they announced how can how can amac be only five hundred bucks. And of course, you could upgrade and spend a lot more but starting at four ninety nine it was a big deal. And so it really was kind of brought into the world is this idea of yours going to switch from a PC or the MAC and sort of the lowest friction way possible, but it very quickly as well as we're talking about kind of group has that too. We're going to put the link to the announcement in the show notes. And it's five minutes of Steve Jobs, where he he waxes poetic on fire wire and tells you everything that's great about this. But really it was five hundred dollars for a MAC. I mean that was unheard of. Yeah. When I got started in this racket, you know, so I was really happy at the time. I know a lot of people that came to the MAC with that original MAC mini. Absolutely. It just opened the door to so many people, and I don't know how successful it was wishing machine. I'm sure people did that, but you know, very quickly apples at arrived. It was more. And they started updating it was there was another round of PowerPC g four power to MAC minis. That was actually a silent revisions have not used by many. It was faster than what it said on the box. It's kind of strange different time. But then it moved to Intel in February. Oh six and it came with the core solo chip is only MAC ever use this pretty underpowered and the price was now five ninety nine. But again apple. Trying to keep it in that zone of like if you want to buy your first MAC, this is a pretty reasonable want to do it. But I think by the time like twenty ten rolled around in the body style change to what we know. Now, it was six ninety nine and I think apple sort of realized that people are buying these for more than just an entry level machine. Yeah. I remember the term core solo. And it felt like it was like a marketing name that perform the opposite effect of marketing. Or solo? Really, it's okay. It's it's like half the computer, you would get with a real CPU. But I think that apple when they started the MAC mini. They assumed it was just a switcher MAC in those bringing people over. I don't think they really expect to the way all of the already existing MAC users. We're going to find creative ways to use it though. Because I think that started kind of immediately. Yeah. I know. So I I have a story about this. I many actually have one it's here in my office. And I worked for like a little nonprofit in high school and just like on weekends and stuff and night. And we bought a G four MAC mini this original machine as a file server because I am the person I worked with both had laptops. And it kind of like shuffling hard drives around just got old like, well, we can just by MAC, mini and put a big hard-drive dangling off the back of the fire wire and just put it like literally up on the up on a shelf somewhere and not have to worry about stuff. Orage any more. And that wasn't a switching sort of situation. Right. Didn't replace a PC server artist. Bought a MAC mini because it was small and cheap. And it did a job that no other computer really could. And I think that to me is the heart of this is that the MAC mini can become many different things depending on what you need it to do. I'm sure you remember this too early on. There were people who like putting MAC minis in cars right with little LCD screens. And now, it's silly Cillian apple, ipads, and car plant stuff. But it got MAC mini in your glovebox to sink, I tunes to your cars. I I don't think apple intended that. But here we are. And for me like really the heyday was like around two thousand eleven when apple released the MAC mini without an optical drive in it and really kind of embrace the MAC mini server concept. And I know a lot of people. In fact, I have a friend who runs a law focus on one of those quad core MAC minis from two thousand eleven still. Yeah. Absolutely. I was using one at home until very very recently and getting rid of the optical drive. The price drop back to five ninety nine which was nice. But you know, I think at that point the drive sort of like if you're not using a workstation of using his a server, you're not you don't need that. Right. So you can get rid of it. They also had some options and like MAC mini server skews with like, two hard drives and optical several different models over the years. But there's twenty eleven twenty two of machines were really well love because they had quad core processors and in two thousand fourteen apple went back to dual core. They made the ram non great -able. The backlash against that was really severe. And I think it's because people were using MAC minis in all these different ways at apple. I'm sure they were aware of by this time. But maybe they didn't think we're the primary use cases, including myself. I was pretty upset that I couldn't replace my twenty eleven with a new one that had half the cores. I I didn't want to do that. So until this new mkx mini. There's like twenty seven two thousand twelve models. A bunch of them are still running around. If you try to go buy one on EBay people are getting big money for him because it was your only option for a long time. If you needed, for course, if you wanted to a server configuration, and we're we're going to talk later about using one as a server and how that works and what the benefits are. But the but just from a historical perspective. I as I sit here, I can't think of any other time that apple has really gone backwards on performance with a quote, unquote, upgrade and with any device, you're the. Official historian Sam I'm sure there's an example somewhere, but it is a very unusual thing, especially if it's a prominent machine that has such a broad user base. Amine, people you do things all over the place for all different things. And I think the new MAC mini reflects that better that it's a really flexible platform to do a lot with the other twenty fourteen just felt like a swing and a miss. But they've they've corrected it, you know, we have the new thousand eighteen model it's in space gray, which everybody loves it looks cool. It's the MAC mini that I guess north Vader would use. But it's it's definitely an improvement. I think Darth Vader could attach several to his to his outfit. Like, yeah. Get rid of those analog switches on his chest and just to come back many up there. That's good slot right in there. Right. I mean, the piece is about the same size. I think I think that would work. See we solve real problems here on MAC, power users got Darth Vader, and upgrade they go. I guess, you know, it seems like they got it with two thousand eleven there was a period that everybody in hindsight. A speckling apple was kind. Shying away from MAC. And maybe that's the reason why we had that weird twenty fourteen quote, unquote, upgrade, and and so much so many years where really just got no attention from apple. But now, it seems like they're back in the MAC business. And you're right. We've got a brand new model came out twenty eighteen and and they have actually a performance quite a bit. You. So you can spec this thing out from from basic to a pretty advanced, computer. Oh, yeah. So a lot of that has to do with the CPU. And there's a great link. We have it in the show notes to an article everyone MAC observer about sort of like terminology around CPU's, it's different than in the olden days. You just kinda bought based on processor speed. And that was the only factor. Yeah. These options in the MAC mini in particular, really really sort of spread a wide gamut. So you have the the core I three which is the base model that entry level MAC mini. It's three point six gigahertz, which is great. But there's no turbo boost. And there's no, hyper threading. So if you want to read more go check out that link, but sort of the high level here is turbo boost effectively is like a top speed that can be achieved in bursts. If you have a really CPU, heavy tasks like you're encoding of video or you're installing something the CPU can ramp up to a temporary high speed. If turbo boost is an abled. And that core I three doesn't have that. So it's always running a three point six. I always thought that was like if you're in a car, and you wanna blast pass a truck on the freeway. You know, it's got that extra little bit of gas in it. And that's right. It doesn't work for extended periods of time. But it it is there, and the interesting thing is usually when you need a turbo this. You don't need it very long. And so yeah, it is a significant improvement. Yeah. Absolutely. It also lacks, hyper threading, so this is sort of sort of hard to put into an analogy but visit hyper threatening if that's an able it means that for everyone CPU core the system sees to virtual cores. And so if you have a an application that's written to take advantage of multiple cores that can run more quickly. So the I threes a quad core. No, hyper threading, so it just sees four logical cores now, I will admit to you David that I was hard. On this CPU option when it came out like sort of publicly connected and on Twitter like this isn't great. But the reality is now that I've actually have spent time with one and Jason Snell ball this base model. The I three is an excellent option for almost anyone who's just using it as that sort of Switzerland tally at you just need like a basic MAC desktop either at home or at school or maybe you're an office. And you're putting these on people's desks. The I three is really great effect benchmarks. Like a like a macbook pro from only a couple of years ago. It's really fast, and what's nice about it is it's going to be the quietest and the coolest out of all of these. Because it's not turbo in up. It's going to be easier on that fan. All of these are quiet, and none of these are ridiculously loud machines. But if that's a concern that the I three may give you a little bit of ground there. I think it's a great option for most people. There are things to upgrade to we can talk about. But the. Arthritic is a lot better than it. Looks like on paper after it's kind of been in the world now for a couple of months. I think it's easy to get hung up on a clock speeds and stats on these processors. And you gotta stop to think about what you're using it for you. I mean, if you're running Microsoft excel, or you know, doing surfing on the web, this you're going to be fine with this. I three. Oh, yeah. And the I three actually is the highest clocked of these options. And so if you have a workflow, that's really like single task single threaded thing. And if you're using application like a specially application that is written this way the core. I three is going to be faster than the I have the I seven in that regards. There's trade offs everywhere. The I three is is for a lot of people plenty of CPU if you do need more there are options you can go to a core. I five which is now six core as opposed to the quad core on the I three it's three hurts. It has a turbo booster four point one gigahertz, still no, hyper threading, but the base clocks little bit lower. But you. Got more cores than it turbos faster. So a bit of an upgrade that such back about two hundred bucks when you order online, and then you can go another level up to six four three point two gigahertz four point six gigahertz turbo booster with hyper threading for an additional three hundred dollars for all the complaining. We did for all those years about how the MAC mini fell backward night and get a six Cormac many that and the macbook pro both have six core options. It's really it's really sort of mind-blowing sitting here this thinking as you said four point six gigahertz. Turbo. I remember one gigahertz was a big deal. Right. Like, yeah. People listening to you. Remember when a hundred megahertz was a big deal. It's things have come so far. I think my rule of thumb here. When looking at CPU is I three is fine. If you're using it to sort of as a regular workstation, if you're doing some light, you know, audio video editing or doing some encoding transporting a media, the I five maybe a little bit nicer. I think you really only need the. Seven if you're doing software development on if you're running ex code on at your building IOS apps on it or you are doing just a lot of av work. Then that I seven may speed something's up the the I five, you know, is pretty well rounded with the I threes. No slouch. I don't think you've got to go into buying that many thinking you have to upgrade the CPU all the way to get a good machine. I think all three of these options are are good for for a lot of people. The I think that transmitting video thing is a trap people fall into they say, well, I'm going to do video on it. So I need this spend an extra five hundred dollars. It depends on what kind of video trance coating. I mean, most people are not working in like four K. Most people are doing an eye movie once every month or two with the family, and you can get away with the I three on that you do not need to spend extra money. Yeah. Absolutely. The ram. We should talk about AIG by stock. The ram is technically upgradable, but you need to take it to an apple store or to an apple authorized service provider to do that yet basically the whole machine apart you risk your warranty. If you do that. So that's only to consider a gigs of stock. I think out of you put sixty four gigs of ram innomax, which is hilarious to me for fourteen hundred dollars. You could buy a whole another computer for how much that ram costs. I think I think if you're using it even day to day, you know, eight is fine. I think sixteen is is kind of the sweet spot. But by no means necessary. And again, you could start with a gigs and in three or four years if you want to sort of give it a new breath in life. You could take it into an apple store and have them put sixteen in it for you. It's only two hundred bucks. If you're doing a lot of editing or a lot of heavier workflow stuff, sixteen gigs. Aram is nice, and you will feel the difference. But again for a home use office, use it gigs. I think is plenty. I just these prices I cannot get over on the rim. I I just can't justify it. I I don't know how they got so expensive. I mean, the SSD's I can like swallow on that I'm like all right SSD for whatever reason I can deal with apple prices on these. But the ram could because apple for such a long time they were gouging on the rim for. Forever almost. But then there was like this nice period where they're Remm prices were a little more than you'd spend. If you went out and bought it, you know somewhere else, but it was reasonable, and it feels to me like they're kind of going the other direction again with this. Yeah. I I know there was like a memory shortage. And there was so much even I think some price colluding among manufacturers, it was going on Asia, some ram has gone up all across the industry, not just with apple is two hundred dollars or sixteen gigs. Like, okay, but thirty two gigs for six hundred like these things don't scale as nicely as I wish they would your. I mean, this is you can see very quickly how you can spend a lot of money on. I'm MAC mini. Right. Upgrade a little bit here a little bit there. Suddenly you've spent a thousand dollars or more. It's pretty easy to do. When ram is gonna cost you two hundred bucks to upgrade sixteen gigs. Yeah. I think if I were giving someone advice I'd say if you want to upgrade ram, don't upgrade it beyond sixteen gigabyte, unless you've got a really really good reason. Yeah, I I can't help but feel that like any. Year. It'll be cheaper to go to an authorized service provider and have them have them. Upgrade the ram. It'll probably cost you less than six hundred dollars to get thirty two. Oh, yeah. I agree. It's always a good option. And it's an option we have again again, apple listen to the users of the MAC, mini, and this twenty eighteen model fix a lot of the complaints. You mentioned the SSD's this. These machines are all no number spinning hard drive, which is awesome. It's great to have as a stays on the entry level MAC. This cannot be changed later even by the apple store. So this is something you need to really look at your needs. See how much you know, if you're if you're moving from an existing computer, see how much space you're using. If you're gonna use external storage that should factor in it is it is what it is when you order this machine. And and I think the rule of thumb there's get as much as you need that is a place to splurge a little bit because you can't ungraded later. But also there's a lot of ways to manage your storage with an external drive. I mean, it's kind of the idea of a MAC mini. The way that you plug things into it. I know there's lots of MAC mini potential customers out there that are looking to attach it to a now's drive or some really big hard drives. Anyway. So just gives them to that the extra LS D's are getting increasingly cheaper and better. So even though I don't think that's quite as ideal of a solution as having the internal SSD because you know, it's nice having everything in in one drive. You can absolutely for less money attach them, very fast, hard, drives, even SSD drives to it. And run a lot of your software that way. Yeah. I mean, the MAC mini that seven nine nine model sorts of the one hundred twenty eight gigabytes a story that's not much. It's not much at all you go all the way up to two terabytes against sixteen hundred dollars. Again, goodbye, second, computer. You know, I think most people these days, you know, to fifty six hundred twelve somewhere in there is is probably good again. Like, you said we've talked a lot about an MP and other shows there are a lot of great services to help. Manage the stuff. I call it photo library to apple music to things. Like dropbox selective sync. You can't get your data set down in size. If you need to be one hundred twenty eight gig as storage out of all the specs on this machine. This is my biggest complaint hundred twenty eight is just the love it. It's pretty pretty tiny, especially with the idea that a lot of people are going to buy these as the home repository of their photos library. Yeah. This is going to be the one exception where you do want the computer to download all the photos and granted you can locate them on external drive if you want, but I don't know one hundred twenty eight is not enough. But I kind of feel that way cross the board with apple SSD allocations. I feel like yes, all of them could be stepped up like all the one twenty eight to to fifty six to fifty six to five twelve and I would feel a lot more comfortable with with what they selling same. Absolutely. We should mention the Ethernet as well. Especially in a server context while these may end up being hardwired in it comes with gigabit Ethernet out of the box. But you can. Just one hundred bucks and get ten gigabit Ethernet installed this. So this does require to reach these speeds, you gotta have good cabling. And you have to have a ten gigabyte switch, but say that you have a MAC mini server and an I amac pro in your desk guy. Do you can have ten gigabit linking them, which would make the the file storage? You know, getting files off coming files back to it all of that dramatically faster. I love this in the MAC mini. I think it's a great auction again. It's a nod from apple that people are using these servers in their homes and offices, and if you're using it as that, especially if you're going to keep his machine for a long time, your your network may not be tangled goodbye now. But if that's a possibility in the future, I think this is a pretty easy one hundred bucks to add to the cost. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. I think this is this is one hundred bucks, you'll regret not spending. If you're gonna use it in that capacity, this persona MAC power users is brought to you by our friends at Luna display. Luna display is the only hardware solution. That turns your ipad into a wireless display for your MAC. So you'll have a super portable second display with stunning image quality, and basically zero lag and setting up. Lou display is so simple. You just get this little little hard little piece of hardware mind. I've got the USCC version it's barely longer than the USB port itself. 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I think to if you're looking at you know, sort of a MAC mini versus a notebook. There's some things to think about, you know, if you're like my old setup before the I MAC, I had a MAC book pro and display, keyboard and mouse, right then approaches and clam shell mode, and in if you're sort of in that environment where your notebook is affected a desktop replacement. Amac, many maybe a nice way to go in the future. You already have all the other stuff. You're not really really using your notebook as a notebook when the MAC mini. Maybe a lot cheaper of an upgrade than say. A new macbook pro or something. So I think. That is something that's overlooked a little bit. But I think it's totally evalu- so this machine, and it's it's so many so small and quiet like you just have it on your desk. And you're never gonna think about it. Right. It's not like these old towers that people used to use it had to be under your tests. You had to run cables of too many small quiet. You can have it right here next to you. It's totally great. Totally a it's a great co worker if you will at your desk, while also I think, you know, the success of Iowa in the fact that so many people are getting a lot of their mobile work done on Iowa's in in a lot of those people are carrying laptops around or they have laptops that sit on a desk that never gets carried around. Right. I mean, not only is a laptop more expensive and quite a bit more expensive a for comparable specs a laptop. Also, the thing about laptops, is they've got so much technology compressed into such a small space that I feel like things can go wrong with laptops. You know, there's just a lot of heat and. Mectron IX jammed into that little case. Whereas with a MAC mini. I think you're actually might be. I don't know. This is just speculation. I feel like you you in some ways how a system that may be more stable. I think there's also an angle here. Talking about a MAC mini versus an I Mak. Right. If you're comparing back desktop to MAC desktop, well, if you already have a display, obviously, this is far cheaper, especially if you like a retina, I'm Eric. Yeah. But Apple's displays over really nice looking at mine right now. And I gotta say pretty sweet. You can put any display which you can go on Amazon and get a nice display for a couple of hundred dollars. Yeah. You're you will get in there for less money. But I just like you. You're not going to get the I MAC off my desk because the retina for me, the retina displays is so great I feel like the whole vector of this decision. I MAC MAC mini centers on how important it is to you to have retina display because you're just not going to buy something out there. That's going to look as good as an I'm Akron display. I mean, even if you buy the LG, then you're spending six or seven hundred dollars, and then you're back in I'm price territory. Right. It's sort of a circular thing. And it's not as good ugly. Basil to display does have some cons. Right. If the display fails on I Mak out of warranty, that's a really expensive repair. Maybe the computer still good, but the displays bad. Yeah. I don't know if that's something to really keep you up at night. But it's it's a factor. I think worth considering it's always been the thing with the MAC as you always say, well what happens if the display? Spat on me or vice versa. Right. The display still good. But now I'm ten years in the computer is not meeting my needs anymore. You sort of have two things in one to deal with with an I Mak. Yeah. There's a thought to have a portable desktop. So you see I see MAC minis when I travel for work like in audio video rigs, or in you know, sort of these different sort of mobile desktop environments where you need to take your desktop with you somewhere else. There was an old ad for the original MAC. At some like university campus at someone like picks up. Their original MacIntosh and put it like in the basket of their bike, and they ride across campus. You can be that person with the MAC mini today. Right. Yeah. The original MAC outta handle. Sure. It was it was made for it. The MAC mini. Sally doesn't have a handle. But it is small. So if you're in that sort of use case where you know, I need a desktop set up in a couple of different environments, or if it's, you know in the past I would deploy these sometimes in an offices or in schools for clients where it's going to be used for like a semester in one classroom. And then go somewhere else, you know, you just unplug in a move it around. There's some there is portability to it for a desktop, which is an interesting twist that if that is in need of yours is that many is of the only thing that that can't fill that need from apple. So that's that's an interesting angle to. Yeah. I think it's interesting because there are I can think of use cases, let's say you're doing you're doing some more high end video processing, and you get a loaded MAC, mini, and you've just got a keyboard. And mouse and display your very and you go to multiple locations. There is something to be said for sticking. The computer in your bag and heading out. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, I've I've got some friends who work on like professional like video sets for like movies and TV shows, and they're ingesting video footage and audio footage and stuff and MAC mini show up there for this exact reason wri publication production. I should say breaks down when the TV shows done. It just goes back in storage and waits for the next show. That's a pretty unique feature of the MAC, mini and one that I'm sure apple did not think about when they introduced it and no five, but people are using using them that way today. So let's say that you fall in that category. And you're thinking, hey, I want a portable desktop, computer. But you need a good monitor. You know, you want the best caliber monitor you can what what's the situation with the twenty eighteen MAC mini. How many can you attach and how far down that rabbit hole can we go? So if using four K you can have up to three displays you've got thunderbolt three then you have HDMI if using five K two. Plays. You're gonna have the ability just to use to one via thunderbolt and again won via the HDMI. So you know, that's a thing to consider looking at your desk set up your multiple display person. And you want three you're gonna be stuck with four K or lower. But still four K display on a desk is really nice. And I think most people are probably single or dual display people in which case go crazy with the five K display, you really gonna like it going to go to the full Al Gore. You got to lean back in your chair to see the top one. That's an option to tease multiple displays. I don't. So I have the I MAC pro. And then when I want to use a second display, I use my ipad and Luna display. It's not I've never really been in multiple display kind of person. Honestly why I added one in in. Portrait mode on the right side of my my five came I MAC, and I use it as a reference my I've talked about it in the past show. But the that actually works for me having a little extra display, but I don't want the big wide thing where you you physically have to turn your head to get today, though. Yeah. That's kinda why why don't Medusa it. You know, the twenty seven inch still I feel like I've got turn my head a little bit. Or at least move my is around a lot. So it's not for me. But I know a lot of people really love it. And the MAC mini can be the heart of a setup like that really easily one of the things I like about the new MAC mini is that it's thunderbolt three, and which is a fairly accepted standard at this point. Because we can argue I think so and and it's got the US spec- stuff. So you've got a ability to expand. Its I mean, it's always kind of been the idea is that this is, you know, the the brain. And then you can expand it with the expansion ports. I mean, we had fire wire to begin with. I mean, just for that reason. So have you looked into some of the things you can do with USB ports in the new MAC mini? Yeah. Absolutely. I think a lot of people are going to use them for storage. You know with the MAC book pro use spec- Thunderball threes your only option, so if you need regular USB or Ethernet HD or something you've got to adapt out. Well, the MAC mini has those other ports. So Thunderball three news. We see really gives you the ability to drive really fast and like big storage. You know, if you have the two hundred fifty six gigabyte internal drive, but you've got four terabytes day to store you can now do that over USB or even thunderbolt three much quicker than you've ever had before. Fire wire was great and it's day with under bolt. Simply runs circles around it. I like the the Samsung are they have the T five which is a USB see really tiny SSD, and they have a thunderbolt version two that's a little bit more expensive little bit bigger. But a lot faster than the US BC. And these things are just really smaller bus powered they're cool. They're silent. There's no moving parts just SSD. And if you just need a little bit more storage, you know, you need a terabyte more or five hundred twelve gigs more a single SSD hanging off the back is a really great option, and you can still back it up really easily because it's just a local drive, and it's not going to add heat or noise to your setup. Like, you know, we see stacks of extra hard drives and those always make your desk vibrate. And you know, you have to worry about mechanical failure SSD gets rid of all this concerns. The and it's going to be cheaper than the apple internal options for sure upgradable loom. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's a lot to like about that. But you can also just hang a big spinning drive off. Which are which is which makes can make sense. Depend what you're using the MAC mini four. That's how I use by. So I have a twenty eighteen MAC mini at home. It's my home server, I'm using a thunderbolt to drove. Oh, so have a thunderbolt three two hundred two adapter, and I don't play Olmec many put the new and right in the scene immediately. So I have whatever it is ten terabytes of storage on spinning hard drives because I need that much space as like to do that with us as I'd have to sell my house. It's still too expensive. Or those those ports are still going to work. I love I would love look forward to the day. I could replace that with an all SSD storage array. But if you need a lot a lot of storage spinning hard, drives are still your best choice and still a lot cheaper than SSD something else with this that I thought was interesting was the the GP you support because you know, this is something apples been talking about for several years. Now, it's an external GPU graphics processing unit that you plug. In and just use the port speed to basically put something that used to always be part of the internals of the computer external. And and I knew that they were working on it made a lot of sense for me, for instance, that they're selling these with the macbook pros like if you have a video workstation, the, you know, the the video card inside your MAC pros is okay. But you know, if you're doing a lot of video work, and you are traveling studio like we were talking about earlier having one of these boxes you plug into the macbook pro suddenly gives it. Video rendering superpowers you can do that. With a MAC mini. That's crazy. Yeah. The GP you in the MAC mini is not incredible. Until integrated graphics on all the models doesn't even hold a candle the mecca pro. I mean, it's not even close pretty weak sauce. But for a for most people, that's totally fine. But if you do need more, you can do any GP us. There's an apple support documents in the show notes. There's some fine print with this about supported enclosures and supported graphics cards. For instance, this is all AMD stuff you can use an Invidia graphics card, but it's not officially supported. So your mileage will vary there, but there are several options, and they're even some options like the black magic GPU the you can just buy like as a kit. Like, it's all comes ready to go. You don't have to put a GPO inside a chassis and screw it together. And what you get for. This is applications that are written to support it which most of the big, you know. Video editing that sort of stuff they're ready for it. Now, you can offload a bunch of that work to a GP you that's in its own case. And with a MAC mini that is generally kind of always in the same place like a desk set up. It's just another box to plug in. Right. It's not like a macbook pro we have take the GP and the notebook somewhere. If you're just using this as a workstation is just on your desk, all the time ready to go. And these things, you know, the use thunderbolt three in the new book your x number display to the back of the GP use it gets accelerated as well. It's really pretty cool. You know, this is like GP's are kind of an old idea. Like, what if you had a small computer, and it was more powerful than you put into these things Thunderball three makes all that possible. Externally really for the first time in this way. And so it can be it can it can be expensive. But if you want a mecca that has a little more graphics. Grunt? This is the way to do it. I feel like this is something if if we lived in a world where I o s. Didn't exist because I always take so much of the public bandwidth out of apple right now. But it's like it's like future stuff. I mean, can you much? We have lost our mind just a few years ago of apple had a box you can attach to any MAC triple the graphics performance. Yeah. It would be it would have been a main mind-blowing thunderbolt three is finally what makes it possible because it has the bandwidth. I mean thought about threes effectively like internal connection over a wire. And so you finally have enough bandwith to feed these big us and get data back and forth. Fast enough. Yeah. It really it. Really is amazing. I have not used one of these again, I've got a I MAC pro that has a big beefy AMD card in it. But if I was still like a MAC book pro on the go kind of user ID may look at one of these when I do my four K video. But this does make the MAC mini a lot more flexible and again more future proof because you can upgrade that GP you over time. And the MAC mini kind of stay this like computing core that is kind of untouched, but it gets better through thunderbolt over time. I think that's pretty cool. I love this. I feel like it's a it's kind of new I know they've been talking about it for years. But it just feels to me like in the last six months, this has become a real. And I'm really looking forward to see where this goes like as I understand it. Some there are some configurations where you can change things together. And I just I'm really curious to see how powerful you can get a MAC mini. If you want to spend some money. Outside the box. Also, I think we should note that we have Steven has made reference to an apple support article. It's the first time since Stephen join amac. How users that he was able to do that. I think that is a little bit this occasion. Yeah. I have a an ongoing series on my blog where I it went up today. I call it k- base article of the week if you pay attention is usually about something else, I'm working on. So the one this week was about the MAC mini. But it's funny. I actually now have done it for so long. Sometimes I come across a port documents. I think I've read this before and then I searched my own blog, and I have linked to it in the past. So again problems when your blog is a decade old. But yes is the first time of many middle will get a sound effect or something every time I mentioned support document, you can ring a bell. There. We go. It is. It is funny. When you we need Google problem. And you find the answer in your own blog. I I've done that many times with. That's. Oh, I've got a problem. This episode of the my power users is brought to you by squarespace. Make your next move with squarespace squarespace. 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But I think in our context, it's a it's a computer that is performing tasks for you, you know, whether that be serving files or running applications kind of twenty four seven that's sort of what it's more or less dedicated to doing computer you buy for this sort of sort of job you need done MAC. OS server used to be a thing. It was a separate product from MAC OS itself. These like mecca western client MacOS since over. Yeah. Akerson so reach to be like hundreds of dollars, and then it became cheap. And then it was free. And now, it's gone. If you several years, the NPR Kaif's we did entire shows on how to run the macalister or software. We had experts in you know, it was a thing where you could have your own Wiki, and they had mail servers in all sorts of server based software and was it last year that they just said. Oh, by the way, we're not making that anymore. I think it was last year year and a half ago. I believe we got that. No. Yeah. Most of it got rolled into MAC OS clients a lot of the sharing stuff just kind of showed up in high. Sierra mecca, silver is still technically a thing. But it is extremely limited in scope, it just has a few functions to it for I think for I think for everything we've talked about and are going to talk about in the show. You don't need it. Like, you just install MAC OS Mojave out of the box. And do what we're going to talk about because they've just brought most of those features over, but it was a sad day. But I think apple like, surely there are people who are stuck in a rut because they needed things apple just doesn't support anymore, but for sort of the home or small office user think everything you would need is still present is just now on your MAC out of the box of free as opposed to having to install some of their weirdo s or some application from the app store. Yeah. And that's really one of the big questions of this episode is so what do I do with his MAC mini be on having a workstation a lot. People are using them as servers, and there's a lot of listeners that are saying why I don't really know what that means. And what it means is you've got a MAC in the background always doing stuff for you. I mean at the most basic level. So think about that like let's say you've got a laptop and you've got photos when we're talking about photos earlier, and because it's an apple laptop it the SST's probably too small the whole volume photos with a MAC mini in a closet or on your desk. You could attach an external drive or get one. With the big enough internal hard drive in say photos is going to run on this MAC, mini, which is going to be running twenty four seven. And this is the one that I want to download the full quality photo of every photo I lift upload to my library. And so suddenly you've got in your own house or office. A computer that's got full resolutions copies of all of your images. That's very powerful. Because before you. I bought them. Many. You just had the online versions with small scale down versions on your laptop. And while I have not personally heard of people losing photos through apple server, and I know now now that I've said that the forums the emails going to light up. But you know, there's something to be said for just having your own data in your own house. And that that's one of the many things people do with a MAC mini server, and it makes it, you know, that source of easier to back up because you you have it all there. I think that this sort of the photos thing you were talking about that setup can work for a bunch of different cloud services. So like dropbox for instance, you may have some folders not sinked to your notebook, but your macaroni. That's always there. Maybe with a bigger pile of storage, you could sink all your folders to that. And then, you know, your time machine or back blazer. What have you can we backing those files up saying with one drive, you can have it just be another place for cloud drive to to sink it stuff? You know, sink is not back up, but sink can get your files on computers that you can then back up more easily, which I think is can be really powerful place. You can say give me the whole enchilada and string on as many spinning drives or SSD's or now's drives as you want to that MAC, mini and all of the data. You know, all the ones in zeros get delivered to your house or office. And you've got them there. Stevenson in passing back plays an important point about back places. They don't it's it's the online backup service I use. And they don't back up a nasty drive. You know and network attached storage drive, but they will back up attached, drives drives that are directly attached to the computer. So you combined a MAC mini with a ten terabyte drive. Like Stephen has. And you wanna get back plays account on that? And suddenly, you're you're in the loss column for back place. You're one of the accounts they lose money on. No. That's okay. What's exactly why have that way? I used to use a NASA NASA just not attached storage issues that now I use this for this exact reason another really interesting use case is Apple's mail rules. So if you something like g mail like, I do you can have rule set up like on the server, quote, unquote. So those rules say that, you know, messages from this person or this subject get put into this folder emails from my great aunt who. She's just since the same cookie recipe every time archive those all those rules in g mail get filtered all the time his G mills in the cloud. It's always running. I cloud Email has some server side rules, if you go to IKEA dot com and log into your Email, but they're very basic. They could be a lot more a lot more powerful and more flexible fairly it barely qualifies as server based roles. What what I call? It gives. You just I was trying to be nice. But yes, they're pretty sorry but mail app, the built in milk clan of the MAC has a very robust system for making rules that apply to any mail that it receives so I called or G mail, if you just have an I map account setup someplace I cover or or fast mail or someplace else that you could do all those rules on your MAC, but the the the sticky bit here is male has to be running. So get if you're that user where you have a laptop, and you have an iphone will those mail messages aren't getting automatically filtered and those rules on applied unless your laptops open. But if you have David you have your MAC, always working for you in the background like you said, you can just leave mail open and male roles are just happening all the time and your phone, your laptop sort of always the way you want them to be because the MAC minis doing all the heavy lifting as mail comes into it. You know, every time at checks, and I've done that. And it's so satisfying to see something. Come into your inbox on your iphone? And then watch it just vaporize into somewhere else. It's the MAC back at home said, oh, I got this and takes care of it for you. You really opened a separate category here. In addition to cloud services that you want to download lots of data from there's also just some great MAC apps out there that you want to have running twenty four seven and apple male roles in other example, another great example, I think is Hazel Hazel, which is the auto filing application, and like I've got this these apps. I used to scan documents when I'm on the go the receipt. Scanners, you know, like scanner pro or scan bought and they save to a special folder on my cloud storage, which Hazel is looking at and in Hazel sees that. And if I save it in the right way Hazel gives it a name and moves it to the right folder sin. The copy of my countinent does a whole bunch of stuff. I did a whole Hazel field guide. So you can go check that if you're interested, but the, but basically the MAC is at home saying, you know, it's like the dog waiting for you to come home. Is you here is it here yet, you know? And then as soon as that file drop. In. When after I buy my burger, it immediately does all that processing this CPA gets the gets the receipt before I even eat my burger, and that's great. And that happens because I've got a MAC running the Israel. So with a MAC mini as a server you can pick those apps that work for you in that way. Just leave them running all the time. It's super cool. And it lets you build workflows like that that you couldn't otherwise. Yeah. Right. Otherwise, that's F would just be waiting for you. And if you're on vacation for two weeks, and your laptop doesn't get open all that stuff's queued up and having something this is always got your back when it comes to your workflows is really powerful. I use Hazel Minnie's over before I moved to the library to do all my photos sorting. So take a picture upload dropbox, Hazelwood, rename them and automatically sort them for me. It really makes. It's like having an assistant or like some sort of, you know, Butler going around behind you making sure all your files. Are you want them to think about it? Because the MAC mini just always on uses very little electric city. It's quiet. You have it on a shelf somewhere just making your your digital life. Better. Another great app to have running twenty four seven for this type of service. Keyboard maestro. You know, that you can do all sorts of automation that you can trigger on your MAC back home or just have it. They're looking for things to do for you. And you know, it's like I talk I've talked on the show how I really have embraced the ipad and a lot of ways. But having a MAC running for me at all times is an essential part of how I hold it all together. And if there wasn't a macaroni twenty four seven a lot of things would fall apart from me. Yeah. I it's amazing. How quickly you can build multiple task into the server where you know. All of a sudden, you've got five or six or a dozen things running that for me, at least they kind of fade into the background kind of kind of forget their happening because it all works so seamlessly and then one day at stops. You're like, oh what what happened? You know, must have lost internet at home. He's not working for me. It can be sort of surprising when that disappears on frustrating. Why is everything broken? Katie was having a problem with her MAC mini at one point. And she had I'm going to get it wrong. I think she had attached a one of those internet of things plugs to her MAC mini. So she could remotely does literally yanked the plug in plug it back. Yeah. Yeah. Jason did that to on his old one? It's like. Gets gets frozen or something or it's failing. Yeah. It's that's one way to do. It. And then another whole area of having this all on MAC at your house or your office is the idea of remote access. Yeah. So you can get get into your server from your local network, or even if you're not at home, and you need to get in giving you giving you a way to do that there. Couple of of pretty interesting ways to do this. If you're just on your local networks for me. I have I MAC in front of me. And my minis in the house, I can use finder can select in the sidebar hit share screen, and then I'm just controlling my MAC mini. I don't have to go over to the TV where it is. And like, find its keyboard. I can just log into it and work on it in a window. What's really cool about the way? Find or does it is you can drag and drop files and announcer say there's something on the the server you need or you need to have something attitude. You can just drag it over and it copies it over the network. You can share a. Clipboard, which is huge. If you use something like one password, and maybe it's not set up on your server where you can log into things by copying it and your one password on your local machine and pasting it on the server, it's really neat. And it's it is not nearly as frustrating as you think it would be to have remote MAC because MAC OS makes it as native as possibles age drag this file, and it does the right thing. It can be really great. But it does require you to be on the same networks. There's some other options if you need to get in from the outside, right? When we were when we were in London for for Hurley's big day. I was on the south Bank one day doing some work. And I bumped into a problem. I had an ipad didn't have a MAC with me. And I bumped into a problem where I had a web service that just would not play nice with mobile safari. And so it's like, I don't know. It's like six AM London time, I use screens which is connected to my always running back back in California logged in remotely Yousef. Sorry on my MAC took care of what I needed to. Then went back to work. I mean, it's it's just I mean, there's so many different ways to have that remote connection that you'll find excuses to use it. Yeah. So I screen. It is a great MAC app that gives you this remote control. It has something called screens connects. Like, you said, you your MAC is in California, you're in London, and you can still get into it screens connect as a little menu bar app that runs on the server, and it basically just tells the screen service. Hey, this is my p address is where am and you launch screens on your ipad, anywhere in the world and your home server is on there because that screens connect app is running tap on it union your password injure in. There are a couple of things I think we should mention here, though, if you open a machine up to remote control to the internet. You gotta make sure it's got a good password on it because. On the internet like, it's not visible to other people. Right. But you are you do have an opening to the outside world you've you've installed a door. Yes. And you wanna make sure the lock on that door is really good. So make sure that your your adamant password to log into that computer, your user password is really strong. There is an argument to be had that if if you do this, maybe actually don't have your stuff in an administrative user, maybe use a standard user fraud, you're apps and everything you need to run. So when you log into it, you you're not opening admin access directly. It may also require some portfolio in the screens connect apple walk you through that. So for me for my particular setup at home. I didn't have to do any of that screens. Connect can just negotiate what it needs. But some sets may be choir. You to log into your cable modem, or to your router and say, hey, I need to open these ports this IP address and against Greece. Connect can walk you through all that. And it's a one time thing you get set up and you forget it. And then then you're set it's funny because I don't run. Screens connect twenty four seven on my on my my MAC because of security, you know, I just don't want it. I don't want the door to always exist. So like when I took the trip I would turn it on. If we're going out of town like anytime, I'm knowingly leaving with an ipad and not a MAC, I'll turn it on something just occurred to me while you were talking. I could I could automate this. I could make a textile like with a certain code in it and just as a look for it. Then run an apple script on Hazel to launch greens. Connect. Oh, I love that. I love that so much. So so let's say I do find myself away with without screens. Connect connected, and I need honestly I needed about three times a year. So it's not a very frequent thing. You could you could create a text file that you save to a specific location on dropbox, or I cloud, then you could just have Hazel looking for textile with those contents, and you make it a very obscure phrase or term or whatever or one password long string wanted sees that then you could trigger an apple script with Hazel. That would be very easy apple script just to launch an out that would give you kind of a back door into launching a screens connect on your MAC back at home or the office from anywhere in the world. That's that's great. I really like that a lot success. You're you're opening a you're opening a door. And it's something to something to consider there. I'm going to put that in place. All right tonight homework. Good do homework and and right up for so we can follow along. Yeah. Well, I will I'm thinking I can even put it into a serious shortcut. I mean, there's you could allow this. There's one less thing. I I will mention while we're talking about this remote connection. If your MAC mini is headless that would mean, it's not hooked up to a display MAC OS will set the default resolution pretty low, and so when you remote into it, it may be sort of difficult to get around. And so there's a little HDMI adapter. Our friends at MAC stadium came up with this and found it, and it's basically just a little it's just a little dog'll that plugs into the HD my port, and it basically tricks the MAC mini into going into. To ten eighty p. So when you log into it remotely, the resolutions, a little more usable. So I use this on our headless MAC mini that we have with relay and it works. Great. I can connect with screens and everything it's a nineteen twenty eighty a really usable size, and it's like nine dollars on Amazon is pretty pretty hard. It's just it's just a little plug, and it's like a half dollar Idi bitty. 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Thanks the same box for supporting this show and relay FM. All right. So we've been talking about the things you can do with the server what we haven't one topic. We haven't covered I think is kind of important for your home servers media. I think it's a huge use case. Right. We have movies and TV shows or other things that we want an essential repository. But that's not going to be our laptop for instance, or ipad, and it always starts with plex. Well, we did the whole show on plex years ago. But it's still just as good. I mean, it's great with flex. It's a effect. It's better now because it used to be you had to do all these hacky things to get plex running as a server and now they've got a, of course, it's a subscription. Right. But they've got a service that you can attach you can have not only the the stuff serving up to your home media at your home. You can even have it a serving up to you when you're on the road, and you just install the server app on your MAC, can you set it up, and you're you're media just available to you. It's really awesome. You can share it with friends. So you've got a friends with. Cool plex library. You can log in to watch their movies. Yeah. Hello, Casey lists. It's really great. There is one little sort of follow up to the CPU conversation, though, there's article on flexes website talking about the CPU requirements if you're going to do a lot of encoding, and depending on the type of media you have and kind of how you input it. You may need to do on the fly in coding, and they recommend an I five for that. But if you do your research into kind of see how wants to stuff to be formatted this. I don't think this is big of a deal for a lot of people who are sort of on top of the stuff. But just be mindful of that that if you're going to do some live and coding, the I three is not necessarily going to cut it. But isn't that also one of the selling points of amac? Many versus network to storage that even the lowest in MAC mini run circles processing lies around. Oh, yeah devices. If you go buy something like sinology, they have specific models for media encoding. And you gotta make sure you get the right one. And that is. Whatever. So just having it as a MAC capping in just makes it makes it a lot simpler, you know. I run a plex over on mine. And what I what I have in my plex over is old apple kina videos. So instead of just going through a folder in finder. I fire plex event. Like for this episode. I wanna watch the macro defy five-way Anderson. Mac many I just found it on my plex server and it was off to the races. And just a couple of minutes. That's great. I know even think about it running it just it just launches and runs automatically. I love that about you. Stephen. It's it's great. Even the of the one with the socks you got that one. Oh, yeah. I've got him like going way back. It's important to have your ipod socks all covered up. Well, so you run plex. You can also run your I tunes server as well. I tuned floats. Download everything if you've got the big hard-drive attached to your to your MAC, mini one. Yeah. I do this. So if we purchase say we've heard some movie on the apple TV, the MAC mini O's being the background downloading it. So it's on the drove for future use. I think this is maybe a little less important in the world of like streaming and apple music, but it's definitely still available and we still buy fair amount of TV shows and movies on itunes. So it is it is there. We also have kids who have like they have like an ipod nano and I use the items library on the MAC mini to sync music to that. So we still purchase some music like soundtracks to kids movies and stuff, and it's have seven lightening cable dangling off the back, and you know, that I ipod Nayna Anderson a couple of times a year and sickening music to for the. Kids. But I think that's probably less important than it was. But it is a great option that I still provide you just like anything you buy download it. I'm just gonna download it. So you know, you have it. It's pretty cool. If you go back long enough in the NPR fives. I mean, there was a time when I was way, you know, deep into the stuff because you know, when your kids are young they will watch the same show a thousand times. So, you know, so you need the the whole system, you know, you need to have a way to serve it up. And and back in those days actually was quite difficult. You know, with all the the ways you had to get the the one zero onto the drive than how how you had to get one your TV, but I have completely fall off the wagon. And all that at this point for me. It's just like I buy it on I tunes. I stream it through my apple TV. I don't even run a plex server anymore. So I I am the the worst candidate for this stuff. Because I still I looked at all those movies that I had ripped of you know, I am not going to be watching the Barbie Princess movie. You know in my kids, don't watch it. Anymore? Either. So I just dumped all that stuff. Sure. On. But the. Yeah, if you need it, this is it's way easier way better than it ever was before. Oh, yeah. And there's a lot of people who are just like streaming only, right? Who who never ripped others DVD's? And like us talking about that they think it's bananas like want. You just stream it, but it's a it's a nice option. You know, there's a lot of stuff you can't stream. So I tuned is a great fallback. And having it set up. Automatically means, you know, again, many is with up to our television via HD mine. In fact, it's how we watch kids. DVD's still have lecture the USB super drive on it, which is not the same color as the MAC mini anymore. Which really bothers me. It was covered up with some tape. But the apple TV is the main interface for our television. So we purchase something on there. I just know I hit by and a couple of minutes later. I can hear the DRO spin up. And I think I tuned saw that I bought something and his downloading for me. So it's a nice yet. Exactly. I just like with photos. I'm one hundred percent in there with ya. I want photos downloaded locally. Oh, yeah. You know with my copy of of round midnight. It's okay. I'm all right. Another another big uses file sharing, you know. In addition to your media. What about just your home file system? Yes. Again, this that used to have to have MAC OS server four if you weren't a lot of find green control. But now, it's just in the sharing preference pane and system. Preferences, so easy now, it's so easy. He flip a switch so easing have file sharing in your house. It's great. You can you can say I want to share this folder like in my case where I have a job. Oh, I just shared the hold robo just with the network. But if you have specific folders, you want certain people have access to and other people not you can set up folders, you can set up permission based on user. So you can say this some logs in this user, they have access to this folder, but not access to that other folder over there with the secret stuff in it, and you even have different privilege permission. So you can say, okay, you know, people can read and write to this folder, but people can only re data from this folders if you wanted to share. Filed of the family member. But didn't want them to be able to delete them. You can make it read only you can do the opposite and say make this a write only dropbox where people can submit folder submit files into this folder, but they can't get things out of it. I used to set this up all the time for teachers in schools where they could just have a folder, and the the students could just drop in a word document or a pages document and turn their assignments. It was great for that. Yeah. I did that for instance, when I I kind of lied because I well, I stopped the serving the the Barbie movies. I did put them on a full, and they are shared my kids can get access to them and strange as it sounds as they are older. They still case you want to go back and watch the shows. I've watched this kid so sure so they're they're around. But it's not served up the way it was I used to be doing it. I would imagine you've done something similar with all your apple kina. Sure. Your wife wants to get in there and get those all the time. Right. Oh, yeah. This you never know when she's going to be a one. Her. You know, what was it like when the ipod video was introduced, but. A cousin to file sharing is a shared folder for time machine. So again in our sort of imaginary household we've been talking about we have the MAC mini with a big bucket of storage. We've got a couple of years with laptop. So, you know. Yeah. It could be difficult to remember where the USB drive is to plug it in. It's all of a sudden, it's months, and you know, some laptop user in your household has not backed up their stuff. And then disaster strikes. A MAC mini can solve that too. Right. Yeah. And you know, this this kind of treads in the territory of time capsule, but Apple's getting out of the business time capsule. So this really is the modern solution. If you want to have your laptop owners getting backed up reliably. So it's again, it set up in the sharing system preference pane, you basically pick a folder, and then you right? Click on it. There's a little contextual menu. Where you can go into advanced enable time machine. I think one of the smartest things here is you can set a quota so say that you have a a two terabyte drive dedicated to, you know, time machine dry backups, and I've got to users. I can have a quota for one terabyte each and when they set up time machine on their laptop it just shows up as a terabyte worth of storage. And so they're not going to have one user overfill the drive, and the others are not able to do a whole backup you can segment it out and make sure everyone has an appropriate amount of storage that is super helpful and really useful. If you're doing this for for multiple users. You know, if it's just your laptop onto your server who cares. But if you've got kids running around with notebooks or a spouse or roommate or something it can really save you a lot of headache down the road when your time. Volume is full and people can't back up. And or you have to add somebody down the road. It's like, oh, no. What do I do this sort of segmentation you could do in here can really save your bacon in a couple of points on this number one? Is this is an excellent use case to buy a cheap spinning drive. You know, you can get definitely like I think on Amazon you can get a five terabytes spinning dry for like one hundred and fifty dollars. And then the second thing is this is one of the things where we I think benefited from the demise of Makhala server because this is baked into the operating system now like you don't necessarily need to go buy a MAC mini to do this. If you've got an I MAC that's running twenty four seven or even if you've got that laptop that you never unplug. This is something you could use with any MAC in your house. Absolutely. It's it's a you just plug it in there. You have it under the desk and forget about it. It's really really sweet. But if it's not there when the laptops look for it, that's a problem. So you really want to you really want to have something. That's. All the time. Yeah. Absolutely. It's a great point. What about? Content. Caching, you know. Yeah. This is sort of a strange one. It's it's one that apple doesn't have. There's a lot of explanation in the MAC OS preference pane stuff of what this is or what it does. But if you an able this basically what it's doing is apple at the MAC will use however much storage space you allow it and again, you can set a default amount here. So it doesn't have to overrun your whole driving and say, hey, just us, you know, half a terabyte for this. What is going to do is apple is going to use that space to store temporary files that that systems on your network may need? So a good example of this is a new software update comes out for the MAC, and if you have content caching turn on that will download it. And we'll make that file available to the other max on the local network. So you're not going out over. Your internet service provider three times to run the same update on three Mex content caching is to reduce that band with usage. And of course, speedup installation installation was the only use case, I could think of for it. It's about it. And it's pretty invisible. Like, your client machine is not going to tell you. Oh, I use content caching to download this, right? Like, basically you have to trust that it's working. Now, you can open activity monitor on the server, and there's a if you have this running there's a cash tab that shows up there. And so I just looked at mine and over the last thirty days, my content. Caching server has saved or has served twenty three gigabytes in the last month. So I don't know what's in that twenty three gigabytes. But I know that the MAC mini server with his drove oh has saved at least a a large amount of bandwidth over my Comcast connection because it downloads at once and then shares I'm super curious about that. Now. What is happening? Stephen. I guess in a lot of MAC OS updates. I don't know. I cloud can also use this. So I think things like I caught the library and maybe apple music. These other services can dip into the storage. So it's doing a lot of stuff, but it's pretty opaque about what's happening. I haven't turned on you and have a lot of storage. I think dedicated a terabyte to mind seems fine. Did it does seem like sometimes I go Dallas something like, wow. That was really fast like well. And then I think in my back, and my head won't mind, not many grabbed it. I don't think this is a reason to go buy a big hard drive just to dedicate to this. But if you have the space, it's an it's an extra. I think I'm just I've always written this off. But now you that's a lot of saves downloads. I wonder if you took your laptop like go to Starbucks, your laptop and open iphoto. I'm sorry photos. Call it iphoto. And you know, you're going to have the caching thing on your laptop. And then do the same thing at home. I you can do some AB testing. Yeah. I wonder where it's like serving all your photo. Ios for you from that. I don't know. That's a good. That's a good question. But it it it seems faster. And it seems like it's doing something. So like, I said if you've got the space, this may be an interesting thing to do. Another use for a MAC, mini or a server that a lot of people don't realize is you can roll your own VPN. Yeah. Th this is one of those things that was in Mac OS server that kinda didn't make it to MAC OS client, at least in the gooey. So there's not a place in system preferences, like enable this you can do it on the command line. There's a Lincoln the show notes that talks about that. If you're familiar with the terminal, you could do it. It's not the most approachable thing in the world. But the there's a fifteen dollars utility called VPN, Abe ller from havi that basically this developer has been a lot of really cool machi- tilles over the years, but it's a little MAC at that sort of gives you a front into that stuff. So if you want to set up a VPN without going into the command line two to enable it this little fifteen dollars utility can do this was nice about this as you can have a VPN. So your connection is secure. You're writing your connection back through your MAC mini at home when you're out in public wifi somewhere. And if you don't wanna pay for like, a VPN service like many of us do if he doesn't need every once in a while, this is going to be really nice option or if you want to have a VPN for your traffic at home. This can do that as well. So it's a use case, and they're like, Dan Moore. And and Jason Snell. I've talked about in the past. I think Dan still uses it. It's a little harder to do than it used to be. 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So we've talked a lot about using a mce server today. I think there's a lot of great use cases for it. My favorite just running back apps. All the time something like having Hazel all the time. It's just invaluable. Yeah. But they're also there are some alternatives. We spoke a little bit about the network, attached storage or a nasty. Vice these are, you know, they're basically little computers. They usually run some sort of Lennox have little OS on them, and you can stuff them full a heart is I mean, some of these have like fifteen or eighteen hard drive bays. If you need that much storage now, usually for home. But yeah, they exist. That's a tornado going through your house. They are there. I use one for a long time. And like I said earlier, I moved away from this. Because I wanted to do cloud backup more easily on all my data. You can do it on something like a sinology, but there's a lot of hoops to jump through. And it may not be officially supported by the provider you want or the version that's offering sinology may not have it. You got a third party thing. It's just a little bit Messier and an ultimately for me. I wanted the backup. And I just like I said I wanted to MAC doing this stuff 'cause I'm most familiar with MAC, definitely more. So than like, the OS that was running on my previous Nass is it just made sense for me to bring a MAC into this role. But it can't be a good alternative. If you have some specific needs or you just need like as much storage as possible. You don't care about the sound or the weight of it. You know, this is a viable option for a lot of people too. But like when you do something like Hazel, that's just not going to work on that solution. And and I think for a lot of. People that are considering this you need to think about whether or not you want to run MAC apps because if you do if you want the ability to tunnel in and run a MAC you want to have Hazel doing stuff in the background. You're going to have to get yourself a MAC. Yeah. Absolutely. It's sinology. You know, it does have its strong since you mentioned like a backup for an office is a huge one. But a lot of these have like applications that can run directly on them. So you can do some of the stuff like a member for mine. I had an app that ran and it looked at the master feed from realize website and just downloaded every empty three. We published like now, I can do that on my MAC and use a different method for that. But you can't do a bunch of that stuff for you know, with the tools on on a nasty. But if you're familiar with the MAC or you just need a MAC application, the MAC mini. I think is more attractive more attractive choice, at least at least for me where I am. Yeah. I agree and later because you actually have several MAC minis in your life you between your biz. In your home. And I want to actually go through those at the end of the show. And have you explain why how you configure them in wash? Or I am somebody who has been on the fence about the MAC mini as long as a mcnamee's been around. Always understood why they existed, and and I thought it was cool. When you see someone run a whole office on a MAC mini server or see some of the things you're doing with your MAC minis. But because I have this fancy I Mak on my desk. And I just leave it running all the time. I've never been able to convince myself that I need to go spend more money on a digital MAC. You know, it's sure come comes with additional overhead. You know? If you're going to have another MAC, you've got to make sure it has the update. Yes. And you've got to make sure this offer is running in. You've gotta get the Hazel rules on installed on all those things. And and for me, I've always just kind of felt like, well, I've got the I MAC, I don't really turn it off. And I can get most of what I need just running that like I can hang a lot of drives off this as well. But I I think that's a question for some people is what is that tipping point between. If you've already got a MAC sitting on your desk versus you know, what point do you need to go the extra mile and get a MAC mini? Yeah. I think that's a there's a lot of possible ways into that. I think if you don't run your MAC twenty four seven so out of all the time as well. So I could do all this on. I'm back it's on twenty four seven. But if it wasn't that would be an issue. The real reason I use one in may this will be helpful to some people is really really two reasons one I do have to our television to play DVD's. And so it's in the entertainment center not out here in my studio. But the biggest one is that that drove oh is too noisy for me to record with in the room. And I didn't want to have to like turn it off or you know, checked it and turn it off every time I need to record. And if for me having it like, it's in the dinner. It's a little noisy. I mean, it's kinda like in the entertainment center, it's a little annoying. But it's better than having it on my desk. Again, the future of like all like ten terabyte SSD like sign me up when I can afford it and not so my house, but until then for me, at least, I don't I don't want all that rotating storage all my desk. And so the MAC mini allows me to sort of put it elsewhere. It's accessible on the network. I'm go control directly to the TV. I have a keyboard mouse up to it if I need that. But it just sort of removes it for my everyday working environment that was important to me. But it may not be important for everybody. I think if you have an I MAC or another desktop, and it is your primary system or even if you have a laptop that is affecting a desktop. You can do a lot of this cool server stuff in on that system. But if that's a system that could go away, if you take it to work in the foul silver turns off or if you shut down the I'm back at night, and you can't access your stuff. It's something to. Attend with a server in my mind is going to be twenty four seven. I just want as like background thing. Available at all times. Not just when I'm at my desk. I think there's a tipping point into me it evolves storage. It's like like right now. I have underneath my desk here velcro to the puddle on the desk. Three five terabyte laptop style drives connected to the Siodmak between backups and archives storage and other things. I've got three. Oh, it's like do. I do I put a fourth because what we're talking about using this machine as a time machine for the family. I thinking, oh, I would have to buy another. So. Four drives on this thing. Yeah. What point? Does it become ridiculous? I think if you're going to do media serving like if you're going to serve up a bunch of media in your home, you're probably need one. I, but to me, it seems like it really comes down to how much data are you going to sling around and at some point it may just need its own back. Yeah. I think that's that's a great way to go about it. And if you're looking to add one, you don't have to go out and buy the most expensive, MAC mini, don't even necessarily have to find a new one, right? You can find a gently used twenty fourteen or two thousand twelve even MAC mini, especially if you're not doing a lot of video encoding or that sort of work, if it's basically just going to be a file server, you don't need a lot of computer to do that. And that may make it a lot more forcible. Or if you upgrade a family members? I'm acrylic a friend of mine for a long time used his seventeen inch PowerBook as a home server now, that's sort of hilarious because it's an enormous laptop. But it he just had some hard drives hanging off of it. It was up in a closet somewhere always on. And he already had it. I didn't have to sell that machine. And go buy something else. He could repurpose an old. Mac, and if you're just sharing files and doing time machine backup, and that sort of thing, that's totally fine. You don't need something brand new. I got a better whatever friend who has destroyed laptop screen, and literally I mean, the screen is. I it looks like somebody shot a bullet through it. I don't know what what happened. You know, the computer runs fine. And except there's no screen and he runs it as a headless server. Stuck it in a closet literally had the server poor thing? Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Sad. I kind of admired that though I thought. Well, hey, it's keeping the the MAC running. And you know, it's still doing a job. I like that. I I like that re-use approach it can be. It'd be a great way to to cycle a MAC, you know, from from sort of everyday use to secondary use a machine that may still have life in it. And there's no need to go out and get something new unless you're doing a lot of plex and coding or you're using it to like, offload development tasks or something like that then. Yeah. You probably gonna want something newer. But for a lot of people even the way, I use mine, honestly, I need new one I replaced my Tony eleven because it was on its last legs. And sometimes it would start and forget that it was a MAC and lose its boot drive into all this crazy stuff. Okay. I've had it. You know, seven years. I'm okay to upgrade this. But you don't have to do that every time, and it's probably less time to replace it before it fails, then the wait till trails train. Yeah. Put. It back together. What what about we haven't talked too much about the small office room? We've talked about home server at the top of the show, we're mentioning that two thousand eleven optical driverless quad core Mak mini was a great office service. Lucien you think that's still true with a new with a new twenty s I think it is. I think a lot of people in small offices who wanna MAC server have used a MAC mini for a long time. Again, a use case that maybe wasn't on everyone's mind at the beginning. But for all the same reasons we've talked about it being a good home server. I think all of those apply to an office server, especially like the time machine backup. My last job. I had we were all max. And we ran a MAC mini with like a huge lissi raid. And it was our file server, and then it was time. She drive and accessible to everybody in the office. And that can be a really like affordable way to do as opposed to coming up with some sort of like, quote, unquote enterprise. Lucien, blah, blah, blah, like a MAC meeting. A big drive will take care of a lot of your needs. And so I think there is still a use case for for officers in this in this space. And I think I think the use cases between home and office, probably the fewer differences than you might think. And one of the one of the issues really is. I don't think that many people use office servers anymore because everything is so cloud base. Absolutely. I think I think the Google Drive and draw boxes of the world did like the officer over and much more than apple not updating it for a long time. Right. Just moved to the cloud for everything. And and that's fine. Something I've always been fascinated with. I've never done this before. And I know you have is off site back. Many. That's where you get a MAC mini put it some location somewhere. And it used to be called MAC mini Colo for a long time. But I guess now they change your name to Maxine idioms. Yeah. Yeah. So if memory serves there in Nevada, but I'm not really sure whether at yeah, they've got data center in Nevada. And they got a couple of others Maxine has sponsored relate stuff in the past. And in fact, our my offsite. Mac mini is at MAC stadium. If you listen to any of relay FM's live show, so connected and some other upgrade we stream the show live as we're recording. It that is all routed through that MAC, mini and that mcminn as a twenty eleven the Jack died on some using a dog to Ethan at out of it. So that's probably due for an upgrade. So they they call it. Okay. You're, you know, you're Ethan at port looks like it's accidents. We've put a dog law, and I'm like perfect. So it's still still going strong having an offsite. Mac server gives you all the utility. We've talked about in your home, but it puts it out on like a really fast internet connection. So if you're moving a lot of data, and you're traveling a lot, you know, that can be a nice option, you can have a VPN server going through a I mean, really fast data center, not like your home. Comcast you can even host web host big websites on a MAC mini services. You have an IP address and power and cooling and all this stuff in a data center. But you get all the benefits of running a MAC. So the relay server we do the live streaming software on it. And then we have our dropbox account signed into it. And in a relay is just like a bunch of shared dropbox folders to in host and everything, and we have everyone add this like sort of nondescript really, Email address to it and that Email address has a dropbox account. And so all of the relay. Folders for all the podcasts. Get sink through that MAC, mini, which is getting backed up again to time machine. Toback blaze and on occasion that has saved someone like, oh, I'd leave. This file I can't find it. And I can go get it off that MAC mini, and it, you know, it's necessary. But it's I have the space, and I have the bandwidth, and it just a nice safety net. You know, we can store some files there that I know will be safe and sound not on a cloud service. Because like I own that MAC, mini, I shipped it to Maxine. But that's my computer, and I can call them, and I can get it back. And it gives me some sense of peace about it that it's on hardware that I own a control degree. And it makes a lot of sense for distributed company because you've got one personal London one person in Tennessee. And then you've got assistance that are spread across the globe. So it's not like everybody's going to a single office. Anyway, right. Yeah. And it's always available because again, it's an data center. I could do that in my house, but like a tree falls down in my backyard and our servers down for two days. Like, it's like a like a big boy data center with like armed guards and air conditioning. Like, it's gonna be okay. And that that like bedrock stability can be huge again, especially if you're using a MAC to host a website or to provide some mission critical function to your job or your life that having that extra safety net of like, it's run by people who do this for a living can be a nice, really nice thing. Okay. I've got this vision in my head when I do not want you to correct me. Okay. Okay. It's a the the relay MAC mini server, and there's like a couple of guys with machine guns. You know, like European security level just just standing around. I can't confirm or deny that of course, with with dead is dead is. All right. Great. Yeah. So this is Stephen I like, I said, I I have been tempted by the fruit of the macaroni, but never actually bought one. And I don't think I have at least at this point because I'm getting by. Okay. Although maybe once I get six drives hung off this thing. Do you run out of double sided sticky tape at some point, right, or or or or square footage underneath my desk. Or maybe it's just maybe that's on the reasons room get so hot. I don't know. But the, but you've got several. So let us know, you know, you've talked because we talked about the one at max stadium. So I think we've got a pretty good idea of that. But you bought a new one how did you configure it? And why and and how's it working for you? Sure. So the one I have at home like I said, it's serving that drove oh to the network. So it's got that thunderbolt and all of my like work files that are actively working on are stored there. So like this episode of 'em pew. As I go through the edit will be on my I m Mack when I'm done with it. I'll archive it on the DRO bow and have two years of project files there. We have our I tunes library on the job as well. I have a set of his time machine target for my macbook pro. So it's just backing up when I'm at home, which is really nice does a bunch of stuff that drove. Very busy. I share my library from it. And then I have a I have a few like sort of background processes going on as well. I've got Hazel doing a very slim similar thing to what you described where I can just scan something for my phone, and it ends up in the right place. You know, depending on how I say that's really handy, I've got a utility called carbon copy cleaner, which is like a backup utility, which I've talked about before it's a it's a great back utility that I back up the dribble in the mcman until like external drives there's like five of them now because it says so much data and that is runs on the MAC mini server. I don't have to do anything. I just plug in a backup drive. And it detects it and backs up automatically. So I don't even have to log into it for that sort of thing. It's all really handy as far as configuration. I bought the I five because I do some plex with it. You know, not using the CPU very often on it. But I like that is there, and I did the sixteen gigabytes of ram though, through those kind of sound like future proofing to me more immediate need the last one lasted seven years and say that my I MAC pro something happens to it or something having to my wife's I MAC, I could if I need to I can work. On this MAC, mini, right? Like, I could pull it out of the entertainment center and plug it in somewhere and use it as a workstation that actually happened with my old one a couple of times. And it was nice to have a spare MAC? But it's got you know, the stock is DNA all the storage is external. So I felt like the I five and the sixteen because rain was little future proofing. But you know, I didn't I didn't definitely didn't feel like I needed to go higher than that. I kind of barely could justify what I did. But it's it's nice to have a little breathing room. Again, if anything for just longevity, and of course, it's running Mojave nothing special there about the the the software the OS because all of us Bilton now like we talked about you don't have to run some crazy file manager thing like used to. It's just all built in which I really appreciate because it keeps things a lot simpler when you're troubleshooting or or setting something up new. Yeah. I thought about that, you know, having one just because I run my whole enterprise, my legal Mexbar stuff on one MAC. And if that thing went down what would happen? The way I've got my backups done in my storage. Honestly, I could go, you know, I live ten minutes from the apple store if I had to I could I could be up and running pretty quickly. Yeah. I mean, that's that's like a pretty extreme use case and probably not one like heavily consider. But if you know like my Prozac production machine, if it goes down, I have problems. And so if I had to to get out of a jam I could work on that MAC mini to to get something done. So it's nice to have that sort of tether there. So you've had a few months. How are you happy with the purchase? I really am. The one thing we did. They did we didn't talk about is the cooling is on new in the twenty eighteen months old one at here. The fan part of it was that it was old and like the fan was just noisy. But even encoding video. I don't really ever hear the MAC mini. It's really quiet. I feel like it can survive in the entertainment center. You know, it doesn't have great airflow through there. And if like it's going to be fine. And yeah, it's been it's been rock-solid for me. And. Just like the old one. You know, a MAC mini server is best when you're not thinking about it. And honestly, I haven't thought about it much. So I think it's doing his job. Pretty well. I I believe I think also with that SSD. It's gotta be quieter and cooler. Yes, definitely I had put it SSD in my old one at some point which made a big difference. But having it just built in from the factory a it's a lot faster. But yeah, it just it just sits there and does his job quietly. Most of the time. I don't think about it. And that's how I want it to be. Well, I'm glad we can talk about the MAC mini and because for a long time. I was wondering if it was gonna come back or not it was so sad to talk about it for so long. But if you and it's great exactly if you've got a MAC, mini, and you're using it in some interesting, fun ways, or maybe you're traveling around to five different work locations. And you have your MAC, mini, you know, attached to your chest plate. Let us know, you know, head over to talk to my power users dot com. Unless no idea we do we are gonna do feedback show at some point. So we'd love to hear some interesting uses for the MAC, mini, and you know, what the title sticks. It is the mighty MAC mini. You can still do quite a bit with that little piece of hardware. Absolutely. In some ways this mightier than ever. Yeah. So we're the MAC power users. You can find this over and we laid out of him slash NPR. You can find Stephen over five twelve picks dot net. You can find me over at MEK, sparky dot com. Thank you to our sponsors or friends over looney displace, whereas pacing box and Omni group, and we will see you next week audios.

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Starting 9 Episode 156 - Mookie & Postseason Rule Changes

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Starting 9 Episode 156 - Mookie & Postseason Rule Changes

"But we'll come back to starting nine episode one fifty six. This appears to be the second episode in a row that we'll be discussing a monkey bets trade because Dallas. I tried to tell you I tried to take the whole medical things sometimes it. It just doesn't work out. I told you I was going to go. Hey mookie you feel good your house. Hollywood sound pretty cool. I like movies. Yeah you like the Oscars. Not They have a lucky strike strike. Yeah all right I mean try to sell you. Try to tell you that it wasn't I try to tell you that. Sometimes things don't work out as originally intended attended and this deal did not work out as originally intended. We've got no ring. Did you know that you were a fan of the Baltimore. Orioles all the sudden overnight. The Red Sox became the oriels. What happened like the medical is like? I'M GONNA just go ahead and say this year because I know that you won't say it and I don't know if you believe it or not but I think i. I think it's blatantly obvious what happened here is there was a there was a public. There was a public skewering. skewering of the return there was laughing. There was snickering going on. And that's when all the sudden the guy blowing a hundred hundred two miles an hour with disappearing sinks slide combination. Just wasn't wasn't going to get it done. He wasn't going to get it done. And if I'm wrong but if if you could point out one of I'm sure there were a few but if you can point out one area that the Boston team struggled like I dunno is bullpen helps up that might have been on your radar. Yeah Yeah I mean. They weren't too bad bullpen. They just didn't really have a closer but brand workman was one of the best relievers in baseball ashes. Better numbers Enron Chapman. Hey Hey I just feel like that would have been a guy that would have been on a Boston. Red Sox type of radar and then all the sudden boom. Nope not good enough so they they do some wheeling and dealing nickel back to the drawing on board right they pull it back now so McKie's like yeah I am going to. La Wait guests. No wait hold on 'em okay. What the bucks going on? So so then they go and get a couple of other guys right going. Go and get their kyw. Jeeter downs noted Yankee Fan. So that's That's probably sitting pretty well with your right now. Made it all the way up up to Aa care of that. Made it all the way up to double A. He's a twenty twenty plus I as far as the minor leagues are concerned between Aa Twenty four homers twenty four stolen oh basis. They project his speed that we're being real how much to speed really factor into any given offenses game plan these Damon. He's an everyday the day player. I mean it's not like they. They didn't have the liar. Top prospect scouting reports have said that he's an everyday player The big league level So I mean like did they get a top prospect. No was that what they were saying. All along they were GONNA do. No luck is not coming back in this deal. We knew that may wasn't and come back in this deal. I mean I feel like you know. There's there's a lot of different sides to this deal in terms of you know fans are pissed that Mukhi didn't get paid understandably so but I feel like from the way your best player that you've seen a god-knows-how-long twice. Yeah B- Ah I'm not saying. I approve trading. mookie Betts but for the reasons that have been laid out. It's understandable. Why this happened but then you also look at you? Know what is what was the reaction at the first variation the trade people like. Oh the red sox didn't get enough then. The second time around people were like Oh the red sox did pretty good comparing the return to the into the Paul Goldschmidt return and yes mookie. Betts is a better player than Paul Goldschmidt. And he's younger. Yeah I mean this was something that the Red Sox Knox felt like they had to do because of how far apart they were on the contract negotiation so you can understand it from both sides. You can understand it from the red sox being like. Hey listen If we can't pay and then we have to get something for you and from Mookie side. If you feel like you you know you're the second best player in baseball and you. Can you know back up the brinks truck do wit. You absolutely deserve that right to do it. So from both sides I get it. It doesn't mean that I have to like it. I don't but the return fine. We'll see what those players lawyer. And here's the kicker here that we haven't been getting out now what you're getting though is you went from getting. I guess I don't know if you WANNA call a big league ready League guy because it's not like he spent one on one place that place we should replace. Jared and I'll be the first to tell you my friend you gotta you gotTa have an idea where that's going you. You gotta be able to harness that you've got to be able to pitch with it because he doesn't have a whole lot of swing and miss and that's why I say you could say that they are big league ready Verduga in his first first full year right not a bad performance not a bad for showing far as that goes. And when you're thinking about the need for the Red Sox you were you. You were pretty excited about like what that could potentially turn into you mentioned workman but you mentioned as I did that. There's some voids behind that greater all seems like a guy that could be fitting right into that but they project him as somebody who was going to be starting those ball games so that's not exactly and that's that's the big point there is that if you're the red sox and you think that you're acquiring homework exactly are you serious. It's on the Red Sox Red Sox way you see that guy your. There's no way anybody nobody in that front office though. That's what I would be fee. Yuri is about if the Red Sox fans alright trade aside guys all right SOX nation. Lend me your ears. Listed did the puck up section. Five ten is in session if you are expecting X Y and Z out of a player. You do your homework. You know what you would have to part ways with in order to receive that player in return because you have projected him out you know what his future looks like all the way you remember the Shohei Ohtani letter that we read to you what eaten he spent his life out at thirty seven. He's taking his one here deal. I'll try and do whatever the hell it was like. That's the kind of stuff that front offices are doing. They will have your children graduating from a local area high school on on their projection sheet. All right the red sox clearly bugging didn't do that. That was clearly not the homework they did for them to go hold on it must have been a Typo even report. It said S. P. starting pitcher. We got him as a RPO relief pitcher. What happened here? It's it's not even about the Medical Dallas which is why this falls even more on the red sox because if you google grabher all and you read following the Baseball Prospectus Specter's twins branch and you're following these prospects. This is all like just google information that the twins saw him as a reliever. I mean this is opened a. You didn't need to see a medical to be like this guy projects more as a reliever. The twins already made that decision based on everything you guys already had TJ. So that's where I kind of look at this. Not just as a red SOx fan as a baseball fan looking at this from all sides. How do the Red Sox needs to look at the medical we thought we were acquiring being a starter we? He's actually going to be a release so we're going to need another piece from you and they think about think about the moving parts here so this is the original trade right. KANTA goes from the dodgers to the twins for do go to the red sox. David Price Mukhi bets to the dodgers and growl would go to the red sox so basically the twins were giving up grammar all for Asia and then the Red Sox are like we're going to need another top ten prospect to complete that deal. Why would the twins ends be like we were just told? We can't a my Ada for one prospect and now you're telling us we gotta give up to when you already said Yes to one. Why would the twins wins do that? So when the twins back out every reason in the world to be like fuck you guys you guys figure it out for yourself and then grab it all ends up with the dodgers and all this so the Red Sox don't get this power arm that that they need so badly but I don't blame twins at all. The twins handled this perfectly so far. We haven't seen any leaks of the twins being like how fucking unprofessional was that you know the red sox be this was google information you do not need a medical. From the Minnesota twins there was held by only the Minnesota twins at the time to know that was going to be a fucking reliever moving forward. So that's with the red sox are trying to say. Hey we thought we were getting a starter. This guy is only a reliever. We're GONNA need a little bit more. Did you fucking Google the guy did you hear. Did you hear about the name change. That just happened. hyme changes name from behind bloom to hyme late bloomer. Because we've got to wait to see how that now this traits jeered I've seen I've seen smoother rough goes early on you stumble in out of the gate here. I'm I'm high horse right now. He'd be on his way to the fucking glue. Factory is the front facing person and all this. He's going to wear it for for how this went down. There's a whole fucking department there. There's a whole department of people right now. How yeah? How do you fucking how do you acquire a guy and N. B. Like all right? We got a starting pitcher here when it is public information early pitcher part of that part of that I do believe in this is the last time because look man. He's got a lot on his plate. I understand that coming into this situation. So it's not like he's just entering his GM hood with you know a clean slate really not not much to worry about aside from getting rid of or curtailing payroll and moving a marquee player. That's a hell of a position to come into as a first time and GM regardless and now. Now you've gotta deal with all the other outside distractions that have gone on as well Paired with your initial task which was payroll move. mookie stay competitive. Don't get the fan base to turn on us before I pitch Late March and it's an impossible task. Oh it's been until I mean let's be real jerk. You guys just hired an interim manager like I said the Boston Red Sox was two years ago top of the mountain as we sat today before noon Pacific Standard Time. I believe might have been sooner. The Red Saux did not have a manager going into spring training pitchers and catchers right around the corner. So it's been a it's been a tough one right now. Ron Ready early. And that's that's that's another kicking the Dick being honest because ricky a qualified a very quality. Measure the airman has to wear this interim tag right right now until this investigation gets taken care of and then hopefully then and only then will he be able to ditch this saddle of the interim title. And hopefully that's the case and that's just another thing that's going to have to happen right because now we're going to have to come and they're gonNA have to have that meeting. They're going to have have to have that press conference as well you know or or make that statement all right. So what are we gonNa do where we're going to extend ridicule like. Is he going to be the guy man sees a whole season's already looking like it's getting along and red SOx nation. No because the whole thing with Reynecke is that I. It's it hasn't been reported yet but Reynecke was going to retire. Reynecke is doing the red sox a solid here. He's not like man. I worked my way back up and I finally finally. I'm I'm back as manager again like now. I got this interim tag like He. He's doing a solid by staying like he was going to retire and then the core thing happens and he's like well fuck. We need the manager and by the way the bench coach. You know this Dallas for the listeners. The bench coach runs spring training anyway. So last week when you were bussing balls while the Red Sox don't have a manager I was like well they kind of do because they knew it was gonna be Reinecke and if they go into spring training without a quote unquote manager. I was like well. Yes but no because it's going to be Reynecke and spring training would have run smoothly regardless because that's the bench coach anyway. That's running spring training. So in that sense they were fine to wait in the interim tag that might be were waiting until the investigation his over before we remove the interim tag. And he's our manager but I don't think that that's going to be the case. I think he's going to be the interim manager for twenty twenty Johnny and then do you bring Alex Cora back if it's only a one year ban in the league finds that his only his only infractions were with the Astros. Because if you're the red sox like all right right yeah you sat out a year so we had to move on. He didn't do anything here. In every indication the USA Today is reporting then find shit and the fact that they're they said by spring training that the red sox like we'd have all the findings they don't have anything they don't have core bill. Trent twenty twenty one the fuck at t insurance they have found plenty on Carlos Beltran bound to that. So let's just athletic is all over that Shit. Yeah let's let's put a bill on this one. Are You satisfied. Are You satisfied as a red sox fan or the Red Sox satisfied and then we can talk about the dodgers. Because you have to. Let's just talk about the dodgers Jerry. Let's go right there. The dodgers have to be satisfied. The dodgers the best team in the National League Corrobos. I just got better. They just added a former CY. Young winner for fifteen mill year. They just added an MVP. In mookie Betts to lock down and lengthened. That already extremely girthy lineup okay. I mentioned the power. Potential one drew four one through five in this lineup. We're talking one hundred thirty one hundred forty plus bombs based on the numbers last year. And that's just your first booking hitters pal. Yeah that's yeah that's think AH folks and and we're going to get into this conversation about the about the potential proposed playoff format things that look as it says today you you can go ahead and punch your ticket to the postseason as a dodger fan book book it baby. I mean that's that's more than a bit so let me ask you this because because you're talking about the dodgers getting better. I don't disagree with you there. There are better team now than they were before the straight. But you're not taking this rotation over last. Here's rotation I mean. Are you signed with the Blue Jays. You just traded Kim to my Ada. Original is now at the twins. Alex Woods did he sign with the angels. Yeah okay so Alex Wood is with the angels. I mean you're you're taking last year's rotation over this one so in terms of overall projected wins above replacement for the dodgers. You're talking the overall package here. Not just starting rotation. You're taking last year's rotation obviously does grow help the bullpen. We'll we'll see because the bullpen is another question. Mark for the dodgers. How much better how? What's the gap like? How much better do you like? The two thousand two hundred twenty thousand nineteen because I feel like the twenty nine hundred and team. I'm like I just yes adding mookie. Betts makes you better. But someone's gotta be starting the I mean you've got walkability David Price and and you have Clayton Kershaw. That's a very good one two three but which you not tell me about the gap if you like twenty twenty better than twenty nine thousand nine. What's that margin? Look like for you. Well I honestly think it's easiest starting with mookie Betts and I know that's an easy place to start what you think about what the dodgers are saying goodbye to or no. Excuse me that's right. Jock Petersen states. It does but I think they'll still explore that. They're going to have to jared because the point that was being made aide was you're losing jock and remember. I made the point about the angels when they were going to acquire. John Peterson that between he and Brian. Goodwin you're still lefthanded platoon and Jock is not jock isn't even at the Mendoza Line career wise against left handed pitching. So that is that is a whole and you're not going to platoon cookie beds. That's not a fucking thing so so you can go in hand that spot to movie and just by default you think about the deepens exciting Tapie pollock and all this like pollock has been disappointing since the signing would you consider you know if you have jock I mean in the mix there and you have Mukhi and Center Kazuki Luke Complaints Center. Oh no there's no doubt there's there's no doubt but you also look based on that outfield. You're talking what you're talking bellinger or mookie. Right and that's one of the two and then it's either going to be shocked or it's going to be pollock. Yep that's that's obviously the only way to slice it but then again it's about about being able to match up if you have mistake jock in there. You're talking about at some point in time in that line of if I'm if I'm correct I think they've got like four or five. Let let these in that book and lineup like that. So you you've got to get I mean you gotta get jock out of there you gotta you gotTa. That's where that's where the difference to me is is being able to count on a mookie Betts consistently but you mentioned the the the rotation I saw another another year older another another years worth of tread on those tires Walker Bueller and other ear better another. You're better emerging David Price. Where does he fit in all of that like does he is he aging with Clayton? Kershaw is he he. He's not reemerging. That's the case. is He able to become a stabilizer at this point in time. Because what you're asking how to. David price is probably not one hundred in eighty to two hundred innings right. I don't know if you'd like to see that. I think he can give you one seventy like he's a guy that was very very durable up until all I believe twenty seventeen is when he really started sputter he had. And that's why I kinda like would love to be a fly on the wall and those negotiations when there's they're looking that medicals and it's a and you got the red sox but he's going to biotic elbow and it's like well it doesn't look so good but he really does. Whenever he was essentially going into two thousand seventeen seventeen he was already on the fucking operating table and he avoided that he avoided a major surgery that was almost catastrophic for the red sox? He avoided that the the the concerns of their. He's got the wrist whatever so that was last year. I don't know in terms of durability what is fair to expect from David price but if he gives the one hundred sixty five innings next year. You're happy with if he's taken the ball north of Twenty for north of twenty five starts. I'm happy with that. If I'm a dodger fan I just yeah. I think the one in place is based on the performances that you got last year from review and Richhill sure the rotation might be the one spot that you're looking at with question marks because I mentioned with woody and Yuriy areas at the back end of those rotations. That's where you're going okay. All right Alex what through the fucking ball great Atlanta right the ball very well and and if that can continue well now we're talking about the bullpen and then coming in and my point is you're not looking for one hundred seventy or you're not looking for one hundred eighty two two hundred price. That's definitely not going to be the case for wood or your is or anybody else in that three four five slot I would say and now you think about reinforcing that bullpen. TRYON's they're probably bounced back opportunity. Ross stripling stays in house as well. So there's there's a lot to be excited about overall with the with the completion of this club the depth. I mean fuck man. They've got. You're still rocking Keith Hernandez Chris Taylor I mean come on God warns Yeah. They've got depth. They've got and the other thing too. Is that the dodgers over. The last three years have definitely made a concerted effort to stay under the luxury tax. You Offload Jock Petersen somewhere get another piece that can help you out in two thousand twenty. That puts them in a position financially to be able to add at the trade deadline line to like if they want to assess the situation. Hey when you know another arm in the rotation or hey we need some help the bullpen. They can go out and do that. They obviously have a farm system to be able to deal from. And and you know you mentioning the depth. I hear trade pieces here. We've got some assets here that if we don't do something now before the season starts come June in July we can. We can move some bodies around. We can get some guys in here that can help us in the areas that we have now assessed. We actually need help. And so the dodgers in a great position we knew that we knew that on the surface but there they are in a great position now to where if they need to add once they know what they've got they can still do that. There's no doubt and that's why I firmly believe the dodgers and I. I'm not going out on any sort of limb here. Anybody can see this. Anybody would say this with confidence. Seeing the postseason it's going to be It's a slam dunk. It's it's the easiest bet to make dodgers going in the post season. They are the class of that division. They have been for many a years now. doesn't seem like their Their reign of terrorists over. It doesn't seem like they're they're consecutive years of winning the NFL west will be over for any time soon. So stay tuned for more dodgers. Talk because that's that's something that's going to be a common theme throughout the entire season Dallas before we get into. I mean. There's there's still a whole lot we can talk. I still WANNA hit on the twins a little bit but last night. I don't know if you saw my to. You did see my tweet because you re tweeted it so I just I know it's it's crazy but I just figured out how to play Youtube on my TV. So I don't I don't use cable at all like I'll watch I'll be network. That's that's pretty much the only time I ever put like cable on like if I'm GonNa Watch MLB network or like whatever game is on here But now I started watching it on Youtube where they've got got. These full games on Youtube. Sounds like an ad read it. It's not They've got like full length like I can watch any like classic guys watching The Jose Jose Batista Backflip Game. I was watching the the angels giants World Series. I was watching Cardinals World Series in twenty eleven with Texas. It's crazy been watching this but then I was also like. Hey the starting on Youtube channel is it's on here too. I can lay these videos so all last night. I'm sitting there and I'm just watching the spikes up tore last year. Got Me all fucking jacked up. I was like this was great. I feel like not enough. People saw what we did in spring training last year like that was great and that was the only year one so it got me ten times more excited to get down there we leave we get there on this Sunday. We'd get to work on Monday all next week. As the spikes up Toran Arezzo surf out there for Spring Training Stay glued to our twitter's because we're going to be telling you where we are on which days We don't you have any like officially sponsored meet and greets will kind of just be like. Hey here's what we're going to be today if you WANNA come hang out with the RV by all means do that. But we have a lot of guests lined up already I feel like more will roll in. We have an extensive list of guests that are being put together. I just added a bunch more to what we already have. We might have too many guests. We might have too many guests. Yeah we've already got barbecues plan. Folks we already have barbecues planet and then there's more now that we were talking about Arizona. I've got some. I've got some big names in Florida being van like. Hey maybe Maybe we should get together so Florida's going to be a thing in March but the spikes up tour hits the ground running next week the week of the what the sixteen sixteen sixteen. That's right. Yeah Sixteenth. I'm going to be driving into town into the cactus league. Why because I am afraid of the corona virus so I am going to be driving my vehicle instead of flying in Bullshit Dallas? You just don't want to bring your fucking Bong through. Airport just has like a four four foot tall bong that he wants to bring with them and he wants nothing to do with the the fucking. Tsa Can't bring this on the plane so Dallas will be driving Just so that he can have that in his bathroom and he's probably gonNA duct tape. 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Probably take another two of them before you go out there because you're pounding water you want to retain and Shit and seriously I've been drinking these things for like I don't know about a week and a half or so and I ha- like that's how I know it's because I'm sweating more and more and more so yes I note laundry sucks but nearest guy. We promised the twins fans we hit on this a little bit too before we move on to the The new rule proposal We kind of talked about this. The last show it didn't take shouldn't really vary I guess the only thing is going to the dodgers instead of the Red Sox But getting into my ada that goes into having richhill coming back in June homer Bailey in the fold. I mean I said this before. One of the twins ends to kind of be in on a Dallas Kaikal type. Like you knew that they weren't GonNa Spend Garrett Cole money you knew that they weren't going to be on top top tier pitcher sure but getting someone that can really come in and make an impact. It's not like Kinda name came to my aid for me is status factory snow. No but is is going to help you. Are you better off now. Having him absolutely one thousand yes yes. He's not necessarily a stabiliser of sorts but but he is exactly a stabiliser. What I mean by that is? He's a guy who can pick up the slack on a day where your starter or where your your frontline guy gets knocked around say burial has Shit Day right in a series and you need to be able to pick it up on getaway day because he's the third guy in that rotation. He can absolutely absolutely do that. He can go out and spend a gem and get your bullpen back on track and being a stabiliser means the guys behind him as well don't necessarily surly feel the pressure to try to have to pick up a slot. Meaning your swing man in who who's going to be the young kid Dope neck. I think homer Bailey's is in in that rotation as well who's not a spring chicken anymore and that's what we can do as well as those guys back to back. They absolutely really helps stabilize that. If my ADA isn't there you're looking at Barrio. Soda Rizzi Bailey. Question Mark Question Mark now with my eight in there. It's like all right now we do. We've got some. We've got some stability here so when I say that he's not the stabiliser I guess he's not. The equalizer is what I do mean. But he's absolutely the stabilizing table. Is it yeah. Couple friends program we can. We can talk about really quickly Trevor K.. Hill still employed major league baseball. Yes the DACTYL. The giants the giants the San Francisco giants also Jerry blevins I believe another. The show signed a minor league. Deal with the. That's an interview that was never released that we have to do over. Wait what I thought we put that out blevins. Eleven wasn't blevins. A call in the audio was so awful that we couldn't do it couldn't do it couldn't do it. I didn't know that I thought we put that out. Yes we need to do that again. When you hit that camp we need to get him on the show? Another friend of the program can PA- lar- hit starting nine Youtube Youtube Channel. That interview for any young player. That's playing d three D to maybe you're not getting scouted. Maybe if you believe in your talent and maybe you're not having the scouts aren't there for you can pull our is the perfect success story for someone that was drafted in what the thirty second round as a d a two collegiate baseball player made it to the big leagues has made an impact in the big leagues. He signed with the Boston. Red Sox makes a lot of sense not gonNA spend a whole lot of time on this because people don't care about the red sox on the show but they have all three outfielders left easy. Get Benintendi you've got Bradley and you gotTa we do go now. So now he adds a a right hand bat. In the outfield great defender Hits lefties. Well makes a ton of sense for the Red Sox. Let's let's get into these rules Dallas. Oh my God so I'm kind of like I. I'm a little bit of both. Is that okay. I'm not. It's not who care up being middleman. I'm not laying mental. Just some of it. I like some of it. I don't like I don't like yeah. I'm going to say I'm going to say you don't like well depending on what schedule you're looking at her. What win loss record? You're looking at. Maybe you do like the extra teams in the playoffs. I'm GonNa say you don't like the extra teams in the I don't like the extra teams in the past. I don't I don't I don't what does it all boils down to if you add if it's seven teams making in the playoffs. It's thirty seven percent yes you you have a coin flip chance of the year to make the play. That's hockey. I don't I like that. I don't like when dog shit and it's not even like dog shit teams would make it but you'd have some like eighty three win teams. I mean people will talk about the fucking 2006 in Saint Louis Cardinals. Winning the world series has an eighty three win team. That was a team that would have been banged up all year and then when they got everyone healthy and then they they got hot at the right time that St Louis Cardinals team was not an eighty three win team. They just had a rough year and made the best towards the. I don't want that in my postseason. What that seven teams in the American League finished with a record five hundred or better or excuse me above five hundred? Yeah so so so all of those teams would have made the playoffs under this rule. Okay nine teams in the nationally finished above five hundred last year so only two out of those nine would not have made it. You see where I'm going. We you start to water down the product but before we even get there let me ask you. Why are we playing one hundred sixty two games? Why are we doing that? If that's the case that has always been the argument is the season is too long and if the season is too long been why would we just just start rewarding teams for really not happened to show up. Yeah you just don't go. This is not how oh you draw. Look you're trying to draw fans to the game. You mean to tell me that like you all are trying to do is draw interest wrist to this game. That's what you're trying to do. The people that are watching this game that aren't going to see their teams in the postseason are still watching the puck and postseason. They're still watching it because they I love baseball. Just by throwing this caveat this complete just turning it upside down on its head you were not engaging new you fans. You're not growing the game per se and we're where I start to go with this year. Is the competitive nature all right. The market has shown teams have proven. Front Office overhauls have rear their ugly heads to show us that they are all about trying to maximize the dollar bill. How do we put as least amount as possible into the product and get as much out of it? Well this is how this right here is how I said it. This is like trying to vail competitiveness and and it's just not going to work work. This isn't Oh man dude I just get so flustered about this. I get so plus because because talking about compensating players if the teams don't have to laugh bonuses for eighty three when teams look as a player. I'm into that that I would love that right but I I think about the front offices who would be sitting there going. Well hold on. Why do we want? We really need to make this push. If two more slots just opened up. If we just missed this window without these two additional slots why do we feel like we actually need to go out and make that big impact move. Why do we need to make that splash? Because with these two spots opening up I feel like we're in pretty good shape here. I like where we're at because what you just did. Is You just told us no. We're actually we're doing it right based on you open up these slots were doing it right. We've got to. We've got to get a little but better. We just got to get a little bit so we'll have to go out and make these big splashes we're GONNA have to make this big impact. It's just it's just not gonNA happen then. I start to wonder or team's going to be you willing to try to trade guys during the deadlines to hand them off to other teams. Who would be on the cusp? Who could then back their way into a world series championship or teams be more prone to keep their players and let them go on? Because you know what I wonder if the Red Sox feel like they've got a decent shot of making that seventh wildcard or that at seven playoff spot with a murky bets and David Price on their team. Felt that way. I wonder if they'd be okay with wearing the mookie for a year and not getting much in return for him. Because of at the end of the Rainbow is another fucking playoff. Opportunity is another postseason. I think about the revenue that's being generated for that organization. They'll be able to say goodbye to Mookie and then retain mookie. They'll have all of those things still in favor of them. And you mentioned the Red Sox. Yeah if this ruler in place last year the Cleveland Indians and Red Sox make the postseason in the American league and the he d backs and mets make the post season last year in the National League. And I guess when when when you when you think about seven teams Sir each league you're like Well some shit teams are going to get in. I don't know that I would have had a problem with the mets and d-box getting in from the National League. The Red Sox did not deserve to make the playoffs last year. The Cleveland Indians were ninety. Three win team. I don't think that many people are saying. Oh the Cleveland. Indians didn't deserve to make it so it's not that way where it's like. You know you. You should want to win your division. You want to win your division win. I think on merit jared what happened to winning the fucking ballgames and that not needing something so when I when when the team takes first place when the team wins their division. They've got the best record going and they're they're now now gonNA chill for a little while and slow that momentum down and now they're going to be able to hand pick their opponents all right. Well let's I'd say that's second-place team. Now they hand pick there. Is that really how you want. This thing to unfold is by people making a by making a selection by I sort of playing roulette. You know being able to have some sort of control over. That's what winning the division is about is being able to control your own destiny but not to this this point not because we're adding other teams into the mix because we feel like we need to make this a pageant. Is that what you want you. What Front Office members standing there on your television screen like you're excited about that? You're honestly excited about. You're not excited about that. You're not no NAH and I'm not but I can look at it from both sides and it's like all right. Well let's just say I'm not. Let's say I'm a fan of one of the teams that that made the playoffs last year. And we've got these two new teams that are making it and it's like all right. We'll just you know it's an easier roach me if I've got to play one of these teams. They're not that good. Just beat them all this all the people that like myself that are saying. Oh I don't want these bad teams playing the postseasons like all right. Well then just fucking beat them you anyone else to deal with them anymore like that. It's pretty clear like like like think about the Oakland A.'s. In the ten race right let me just read these numbers offer you this the estimated into the year payrolls for two thousand nineteen Tampa Bay rays sixty five million dollars Oakland as ninety four million dollars. Those are two teams teams. That battle it out for one of two wildcards spots right Now now you're essentially telling those teams you guys are good because you're already in the mix you're already considered based on how you're operating right now and the return you're getting on your players in the situation you've created for yourself. You're already good. So the idea of like revenue sharing and having to spend to put a better product on the field. That all goes away. Because you are now a playoff-caliber baseball eighteen based on the schedule that we have put in place. So why do those two teams have to try to keep up with a New York Yankees team. WHO spending the two hundred and forty eight point one million dollars? Why do they have to try to compete with the Boston team? Spinning one hundred ninety one point one million dollars or Astros team an Oakland flonaise team at ninety four million competing in their own division against the team. WHO spending more than twice their amount at two hundred and fourteen million dollar into your payroll for the Houston? Houston Astros. Okay and now you now you start to factor in the Cleveland Indians who are spending a hundred twenty four million dollars right but are not into the party. They don't get to come and play. Well why would they want to to make a splash and take on big money if they're just outside of those windows if they're just outside that means they're as close as they've ever been based on how they're currently operating. So why would they now need to make a push to try to get stronger or make a push to try to get better and where this is coming from his players side on thinking about compensation on thinking about free agency up thinking bout teams and their desire to win a championship. But at what cost. And if it's about taking on money for a conceivable coin flip of an opportunity every year. I don't see the fern offices that have been as rigid as they've been in spending and cutting back in recent years all the sudden going you know what fucking we're let's fuck do it two hundred billion dollars. Let's go take on that big ass contract because who knows no. I think the front office is up. showed us that they'd say you know what I like. I like our chances at the coin. Flip and are I like our options in house. We don't need to go and spend forty million dollars a year on a guy which leads me to that positive side of this where maybe you do go spend fifty million dollars on two guys for one year because you're like fuck it. We think those students do not even I. I heard a rumor in the last week and this is what I said before. He even assigned that they were my dark horse. I heard a rumor that the Blue Jays offered Garrett Cole three hundred million dollars hurt that. I don't know if it's true but I heard that and I said why the fuck wouldn't the Blue Jays being on call and everyone's like why wouldn't that that's not what they do. Bluejays have one of the richest owners owners in professional sports. They also have one of the best developing young cores. In Major League baseball the Blue Jays would be the exact type of team. That would become interesting to me. If more playoff teams were were sort of added here. And maybe it's like I don't know maybe maybe seven too much. Maybe maybe there's like some sort of expansion bench now there's thirty two teams in baseball and they're six. There's six playoff team or some sort of they do something like that. Maybe there's some sort of middle ground that we can find but I think that other teams like that that you're not thinking about in free agency it would be like well shit. I mean like we're not we can't win the division. I don't think that we'd be the one wildcard representative. But if they're if they're making the the net wire here I think we can. We can get ourselves in that forty six percent and it's like does that make free agency more interesting does it. Yes this old lesson. That doesn't lessen the accomplishment of making the postseason. I feel like there's a lot of different questions that come out of this but one of the other things too. Now that we're talking about is being able to pick your opponent like if you have the best record and I say this I fucking put this out there last October when we were talking about wildcard match-ups with teams of the best record. I was like well the tea with the best record. 'cause I think we're talking about like the nationals. I don't think the dodgers would pick the nationals in the first round and guess what they didn't want the daughters in the first round they fucking loss so in a situation where you're talking about a rule where the team with the best record could pick which team they WANNA why. I like that rule because for me. That's tired for me. That is tired. Go get yours go get yours. Don't sit there and then hand pick your way two way. Doesn't that talk to your point earlier about like sorry. So the the the Yankees they spent all this money and they're probably GONNA have the best record in the American league. It's like there. What's the benefits and out to that? If there's so many other fucking playoffs record give me an advantage like why if I win if all you rioting warning the people that are willing to come up out of their pocket book. And that's that's the discrepancy that will still exist is now you're gonNA look at the Yankees so basically what the luxury tax would represent is your willingness to try to fight for the ability to pick your playoff opponent. That's what the luxury tax would represent because if you're going over the luxury tax than you are trying to secure talent that tells you we are going to win the division otherwise. There is no need to even flirt with the luxury pre-tax because you've got two extra playoff spots that just opened up so the way that the landscape sets today. I believe you're going to have more organizations organizations trying to back their way in two slots six and seven as opposed to really try to become front runners for ultimately which becomes the opportunity to pick your pick your poison the opportunity to pick your opponent. So you're you're you're you're going over the luxury tax to secure a first round bye. Why and to pick your opponent? That is what you're going over the luxury tax. For any other reason. You could miss me with any explanation because you you could be the Tampa Bay rays at sixty five million dollars playing a division series after one game or after you're not guaranteed anything anything because the red sox went over the luxury tax and they would have been the number seven seed in the American league and also the worst record of any playoff team in major league base- and now do you believe that should be rewarded for twenty. Nine hundred. Should not have been rewarded with a playoff berth. And you WanNa know what happens. Your boy evolve. He doesn't get breaded up for his stallion performance. Because guess what. We don't need to pay you that kind of money because we get back into this motherfucker next year too. Yeah so we don't need to secure you for why. Why would we do that? You can do what you just did right now. And we don't have to try to outbid other people for that type of performance because they're in the same boat too. They might have somebody that they feel like. It'd be they're poor man's evolved. That could get you know what I mean and I. I think that's what this does. I don't think it discourages the big market teams from still spending the way that they do I think it entices the middle of the pack teams to spend a little bit more. Because if you're the Red Sox fucking spent all this money and we're the number seven seats You don't want that path to the world what series you spend that money so you can win the division. And you don't have that you get that first round by you don't have to play in these little fucking wildcard series. That going on like that is a punishment. It's not like all all right. Everyone's in so we're all on the same path to the world series. Like that's not true. You Win The division you. You're the best record you get a bite. You don't have to do all this other shit like we're especially if they I don't I don't know what they would do if it's like a best three or if they're going to keep it this this one game playoff which are super exciting for the fans. But I know that I wouldn't want my fucking team playing in Dallas. You can speak from personal experience. You probably don't WanNa play in the one game playoff doesn't seem like a fun time so there is a penalty to not being good enough to win your division and just get get in the natural way so I don't know it would be interesting to see what the impact is also. I don't know I'm kind of intrigued. By the whole like you know the decision and making process of all right we want them. And it's like Oh shit like your instead of instead of scouting department I mean. Hey you better pray to God. The Red Sox aren't in that spot because they would clearly fuck that up based on being able to scout and project who they want a piece of they don't even know what they've got starters and relievers Jerry but that conversation for another day. Now you are going to be dependent in on those eyeballs. That are watching those advanced scouts. Those guys are going to be so important because the computers picking the team. I mean. There's like you're not going to have like a front facing person it's like. I think that we should play that team. It's GonNa be like all right. Put It in our team pooper. People all right. What what who? We've faced better against Bush. That's where we're GONNA play like it's it's GonNa be a fucking machine and telling you that after. No that's where you're going to see that's where the combination and the marriage of analytics and boots on the ground half to exist they have to coexist there because the numbers could be telling you what a guy has done well over the course of this entire season alright and the numbers could very well. We'll tell you what he's done and they would tell you what he's done. Say over the last week and a half two weeks what you how deep diving into it. It doesn't and always work out that way so simple loss guy is a guy is his over or as his two for twelve. What does that too for? Twelfth look like eyeballs on the ground that have been following him around per week and a half. They can tell you what that series two for twelve. Look like they could tell you. There's a lot of loud outs in their folks. And that's where it's going to get important and again. Righty lefty matchups bench depth. All of that comes into play and for me. Sure the computer could bear that out. But you've gotTa have feel man so to your point about having feel. This was the first example that I thought of the twenty. He's sixteen division series between the Indians and the Red Sox. So it's like you can put numbers and it's like fuck. We don't want to face that team because they're really good. I mean they came within one game of winning the world series that year but going into that division series Kluber was heard hadn't pitched in two weeks before his start Salazar was out and Carrasco was out. So it's like Yup. I want that team. Guess what they fucking swept the red sox so even if like you have numbers numbers and you have feel it you still got to play the game if you ain't got to play the Games so the computer tells you so. Let me ask you this based on a team like the Cincinnati reds right now based on what the reds have done. This offseason Do they make the same amount of moves. Do they make the same type of moves with these. Two additional wild card spots now now added with these two playoff spots. AWW I think that they're they're making moves to make the wild card as it exists today. I mean I think I don't think they're going to get there but I think they're trying so I I I mean the Cincinnati reds made a valiant effort to better their ball club for right now like you have teams that are making moves that are like all right. Well we're building our team for down the line. I think the reds are trying to win the best that they can right now. I mean they're obviously not in the mix for the top name free agents. But they're they're making the moves that they feel L. is going to make their club. They they WANNA keep taking steps forward. How big those steps are I mean that remains to be seen? They're not huge steps but they're steps in the reds are kind of getting there so my my I like my point is would we ever find us in teams find themselves in a place where they're like you know what Castanos be a great great ad for us. We agreed ad for so Mike Moose Dacas I feel like if we add one of those two guys which one of those guys fellas can be the guy who backs us into that seven spot which one like are those types of conversations that start to happen as opposed to saying you know what we don't even WanNa sniff that wildcard spot. We want the division. GimMe Casinos Gimme Moose. Timmy bucket. Bauer Gimme Miley Guinea. Game all to me give them all to me like within their realm of reasoning. That's what excites me is a team that I feel in the reds having having made these moves and even added bugging what occupation or whatever his name is like they're they're like Yo. We're trying to play ball here like we were coming for that Crown Japanese News Kevin Youkilis. Yeah we're coming for that crown and that's the kind of that's how everybody wants to start the season baseball fans. We'll be there at the beginning of the season. I feel like trying to drum up interest at the end of the season by virtue of adding extra teams so more people are now involved in it like for me. All I see are all I feel about is just revenue creating revenue wanting to create money wanting money one and it just like we've gotten so far away from the game and health like I feel like the bucks dude. Maybe add the wildcard. GimMe a three-game set postseason. Oh seized for baseball just to them now I. I enjoy myself during the month of October. With or without the seven teams the Barstool store speaking of adding revenue. We're putting out more merch. You guys have been great with your submissions. We asked for ideas from different fans is of other teams. 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It's kind of an exhausted topic as of right now but more stories. Continue to come out. A new article from the Wall Street Journal comes out. Basically Jeff Blue now ladder is fucking teeth about all this which is unfathomable to me. That like he could put out a statement just with blatant lies not understanding that there are so many people that were involved. That just don't have your back. That are probably going to tell the whole truth. And that's what happened in this Wall Street Journal article where Lou now the Since fired general manager of the Houston Astros Released a statement saying he didn't know about it It was it was them. It wasn't me and then we find find out in this Wall Street Journal Journal article that not only did he know about it he was involved in it. I mean he would pop video room he would ask about it. He knew the name aim of it. I mean it was. It was all the fucking teed he. He's scapegoated Alex Cora and trust me. I know I defend. He's my guy. I know Alex Cora is not innocent in this. I know that he was involved in Houston But to the way that he was painted as the mastermind when this article came out and and we're told that it started in two thousand sixteen when core was at ESPN and they were still doing it in two thousand eighteen core with the red sox. I mean fuck you astros for doing on that that guys. I mean you know the way that it was the way that it was written up in the way that it was projected. Early jeered I. I'll be honest man. I myself had moments where I'm sitting here thinking like. I just don't know that I can place Cora like coming up with all all of this and like fucking conducting and being the maestro behind like I just don't I just don't know that he's got that in just don't know that he's got that in them and and then they were days roads like fuck man. Maybe you just never know. Maybe you just never know it dude. You don't know how far and that could very well be true or not in this instance but to think that a man in lieu now's position looked at Alex Cora and the players it's like they were disposable. Because that's exactly what happened is these guys were disposable. I can throw a item throw a low level employee slash bench coach title on this guy. Let him take the fall here. I know the players aren't going to have to you. Know the players aren't gonNA get sacked so no big deal. Yeah this'll slow over. I'll let him wear it and that'll be that that's exactly how that went down to that is exactly. I didn't even have the balls to mention core in in his statement. He said it was orchestrated by the players. The bench coach his name. He's the guy that can beat you in in two thousand eighteen The Wall Street Journal article was kind of eye opening in terms of what the Astros were doing like a the intern in two thousand sixteen. Had all the data they turned it into to the trash can thing at talks about when they started it. It talks about how long it went on for Again not innocent. Had you know was was very much involved in twenty. Any seventeen was not the mastermind But then you also have this athletic article that came out today. This on Tuesday and that heavy implicates Carlos Beltran. And we've heard these whispers about how Carlos Beltran basically came over from the rangers because they were doing over there too sorry ranger fans like. That's not out there yet. But like that's where he got it from he was doing it with the fucking rangers comes over to the Houston Astros walks in there and he's like. Hey Hey this is how we're going to win like this is what we're going to do and this is how we're going to win. And when I I like heard those rumors I was like. There's no fucking way I know. The Calls Beltran Hall of Fame Caliber Player. He's brand new to the team. I don't care how long you've been in the League for what your stature is. He walks in that room. And everyone's just like yes. Mr Beltran whatever you want Mr Beltran from the players right down. Aj hinch and it was his fucking team it was AJ. Yes Mr Beltran will do. Whatever whatever you want and the whole thing about like we've heard the stories and the reports about? Aj hinch breaking the TV's and all that that might have been true that he broke a TV once or twice but guess what when he showed up at the ballpark. It was there the next day and he didn't do anything to stop it and in this new athletic report saying you know the players. They felt helpless. They nick they couldn't step the Carlos Beltran. Aj hinch there was nothing he could do to stop it. Don't give me that like Aj hinch if you wanted to stop it. You could've stopped it and I. Sympathize dies a little bit a tiny bit with the young guys. Like if you're if you're a rookie on I look more to Brian. McCann I look at McCain and I look at radic it'd be like you're the veterans the team you you can say. Hey this is not only do over here. You can't I know you want to and I know saying that out loud. You want to believe that that would what happened. And there's been accounts you know them can't win up to Beltran and said we got to shut this down. I know you WanNa believe that that happened. Not Not that McCain did that. I mean believe whatever you WanNa believe I mean there's many McCann with the fucking trash cans like he still did you do you. And that's where people are questioning a you know. Hey will it be said that is it a matter of. I can only say so much before. I'm told this is how it's going to go and at at that point in time like like if we just want to dive off real quick and get into that. What do you do if your Brian McCann? And you are privy to the system and then can you hear like because it is deafening. Trust me if you are already geared up to here or be listening for something like that for those cues and and you hear them. You're not ignoring them. It's like the human inability to stare at words and not read them like you can't just stare at the word milk and not read milk. You're going to read it milk. You hear that Bang Bang you. You know it's you've been Pavlov D- my friend you're starting to salivate here at fucking income's sit back so if you had that conversation what this is speaking to is. What a lot of folks don't understand and this is where I have to say that ugly if you've never been in a clubhouse you don't know what I'm talking about kind of thing because I jerked how many times have I told you the story about uh-huh uh-huh going to Japan in two thousand eight and the players being compensated very very nicely and we find out that our coaching staff and the other staff members are not going to be compensated? The way we are so we have a choice to make. Do we let them wear it. And just cash our checks and say fuck it or do we prepare air to say we're not going to play. Keep your fucking money until you pay everybody the same. Well I had Eric Chavez he of a sixty sixty six million dollar contract stand up and tell Dallas he Of A minor league salary. All of I don't know what does that like fucking ten grand year. Whatever it is that you're going to say no thank you you're going to say no? Thank you to forty thousand dollars because these other guys are getting paid. I really wanted that. Forty thousand dollars doubt life changing amount of money for me at that point in time and I was was being told. This is how this is going to go now did Chubby. Tell me something that I wasn't willing to be on board with absolutely not. They could've taken by. I forty granted bucket Burger because traders working to get paid on not going and I was in that boat. And that's how this game goes so with that being ingrained in me on that end. Think about the like jared. You see me like like I have a relationship with Ricky Henderson. That I'm very fortunate to have. He's a fucking hall of Famer right and he jokes with me and he knows my name and that is a feather in Mike Cap that Ricky Henderson knows my name. My hands still get sweaty. I still get nervous. I still don't even WanNa make eye contact with that man because of who he is and what he's done in the game and I love and I just have a level of respect for that that I couldn't even like no like I'm not even GonNa fucking no just and that's that's how you feel with a Coz Beltran rolls into town writing writing that wave writing this hall of fame carpet right off into the sunset and he's willing to take you with him to the promised. Land is what you're thinking and he's telling you this is how it's going and you're probably thinking well shit man is illegal is this might seem seem like students got twenty years in the Game Hall of Famer like he's not trying to. He's not fucking anything up like on a level where you know respect would be lost or anything like that right and well shit shit if it is right now like who's going to write out a hall of Famer who's hating on a hall of Famer. I'm not hating on a hall of Famer. Those are the thoughts that start to permeate a clubhouse. It's it's like you understand how players would feel like they are being held prisoner. I can understand even. I don't even know if it's being held prisoner. I think some of them were excited about like I wasn't done. There's a lot of guys who who will take those scenarios and be like. Oh Damn shucks looks like this is my lot in life. If I'm going to have to know what's coming during the season sucks to be me right right right right. Jane is talking to one of my buddies from back home about it. Because he's not he's he's like a baseball fan but he's not like a huge basis. He doesn't keep up with it now but like he was like a diehard baseball fan like growing up and I was explaining. Explain it to him and I was like yeah I just I don't know I I don't know what I would have done in that situation. And he was like well. Let me put it to you like this. You know you're you're You're a rookie or whatever. You're young player in that clubhouse right and I'm thirty now so let's just say I'm twenty three twenty four and I'm new to the big leagues and I'm on a team. Ken griffey junior gets traded to my team and I know that he is in his last season and he comes in there and he's like hey guys listen up. This is what we're GONNA do. This is how we're GONNA win and you're looking at that guy being like. Oh Fuck you put it to me like that. I'm like I'm doing a Griffey's saying because griffey junior you know what I mean like that guy comes in there and it's like you know you you look at him like Holy Fuck and you know that it's his last year and it's like we have a group group here that's capable of winning a world series. This guy doesn't doesn't have one. Let's get them one and he's the guy that's saying that this is what we should do. Not only is he in an approval of it. It's his idea the end for hitters. Jared you have to understand. There's a different subcultures in this game. There's only so many things that pitchers can pass along to each other when talking about opposing hitters Holes and guys swings. We'll know what those are all right. It's just about sort of relaying Sequences and situations where you've had had success against the Guy Because you've executed this pitch in this game situation time and time again and the computer tells you you're telling him your buddies are telling everybody knows where this guy's whole is right but for hitters you start to pass around. These notebooks these. These books on books on books chapters and chapters and chapters on individual guys are and I'm not talking about tangible notebooks. Sometimes sometimes I am talking about tangible notebooks but there are Delgado did that then Delgado having entire notebook of like every pitch that every pitcher ever fucking through them. Yeah that's I mean that's brilliance. Billions at work folks. That's logging his memory in real time being able to go back as he's sitting there looking at the looking at the order going right I'm fifth Fifth up to sitting. which if I'm going to I'm going to bat? There's going to be traffic. This is what this guy does with traffic. This is what he did against me. Two two weeks ago in his ballpark with a runner. On second with less than two outs. That's all right there in a notebook for him to reference before he goes to the plate and has to then lay his nut sack on the line against that nut sacks sixty feet six inches away and the the best man walks away winning that battle. That's what Carlos Delgado did like fucking brilliant hitter. He was no these secrets are being passed around these hitters. And if you could latch onto a veteran jared if you're a young dude who's in his first big league camp who might be ready ready to break camp with the team and you've got a Beltran who's taking you under his wing showing you how to look for pitches being tipped he showing you pitch sequences and now. Oh you find yourself fast forward to the end of the season here you are nut cutting time getting rid of the cash bonus check. We've got hardware st a world series ring as well upstairs a twenty. What are your hall of fame candidate in the face and I'm gonNA tell him to clean it the fucked up Carlos? I'm not telling you what that conversation is not happening. No it's really not and I get it. I get it now It's almost like you mentioned like Pavlov. It's almost like the Stanford prison experiment. Where you just like get put in a situation? Yeah and it's like you are on the outside you're like well of course I wouldn't fuck in convert to the environment mm-hmm and do things a certain way. That is just completely fucked up and then you get put in the situation. You don't really know how you will act in a certain situation until Oh you're in it and I feel like a lot of guys that maybe who let's say in an alternate universe never ended up on. That Astros team are probably reacting the same way that like like the Freddy Freeman's of the world are with like that's so fucked up and I can't believe it but if you're in that situation the exact same one where you have Beltran walking in. He said this is how we're going to win. This is how we're I'm GONNA do it. What are you doing with that information? How are you reacting to that because apparently no one not one person Brian McCann was like hey clean it the fuck up? We can't be doing doing this. And then guess what it's still taking acts with the trash can and let's and folks. Let's establish something here because some of you are going. Well the manager bubble when when Carlos Beltran walks into your clubhouse and your Aj hinch you need to know you're not the most important levels you just need to know that people people are not looking up to you like she is carrying more weight and more cachet then you there are just certain and that is not a knock on. Aj Jay because he himself has talked about how he feels that he has grown in terms of being a leader. Take Take that for whatever you will. He feels he has grown and being a leader from early on in his time with the diamondbacks to now and so the ability to command the respect of of a room full of multimillionaires. That is something that is learned and earned learned earned. You need to learn how to handle these personalities personally and coexist with these individuals and then you need to earn their respect by showing them that you will go to bat for them but you also also he can take no shit and this is where it stops and that's a very very tough row to hoe man. That's a very it's it's not an easy thing to establish especially when you've got some of the guys with the cash that we're talking ab