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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Tony Bennett and Clark Kellogg (04-09-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Tony Bennett and Clark Kellogg (04-09-19)

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And I know the people were probably not expecting a whole lot. But I think you got a whole lot more than you thought watching. And that was my point. Sometimes you watch a game. And you're just watching the game because what's at stake? There was a national title at stake. Congratulations to Virginia. We'll talk to their head coach Tony Bennett will join us coming up here in a moment. Clark Kellogg CBS. He will join us coming up as well, Abby Wambach the greatest soccer player in US history. Will join us coming up a little bit later on a couple of headlines, by the way, Dan Patrick show. Brought to you by Calloway's epic flash driver flash. Based technology featuring calories I ever driver face engineered from artificial intelligence to deliver ball speed faster than humanly possible preorder yours at Callaway golf dot com. Learn more at Callaway golf dot com slash. A Virginia Beach Texas Tech in overtime, and Kyle guys the most outstanding player he's known as the mop. That's the most outstanding player. They don't give a most valuable player. It's a most outstanding player, maybe a golden mop or something like that would be nice tonight rockets in the thunder as we close out the regular season got a stat of the day play of the day. Your phone calls are always welcome eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Twitter head with GP show, and you can watch if you'd like on our live. You can stream it live on be our live dot com and the audience number channel two thirty nine. We welcome in the head coach of the national champs. Tony bennett. How much sleep last night? Coach. A little bit. But it's all good. It's all good. When did it hit you? I don't know if it quite as yet. But no, I think that this journey has been amazing. And you know in the final horn went off, you know, after we wanted to overtime. I'd just sitting on that stool because you're up when they put you on such a stage for the floor. I just gotta bowed my head, and I just said, thank you. I was I was overcome with thankfulness and humble in a way that I felt like I, you know, so improbable, you know, how we want these games and all the things that went on. And I think it just it dawned on me, and you know, to see former players to see Joe Harris, Malcolm Brogdon there in the locker room after just to look at the guys that we had to we did a cool thing after that meant the world to me think those moments in it'll continue to thinking, but it was so good. So good. I couldn't help. But think your father having been able to broadcast one of your games when you played and having met your father, and I still tell people the practices were probably pretty boring to the players, but so clinical, and I just see so much of what you're doing. Now in what you're father probably gave you and for him to be there in insure that. What was the moment? Like when you saw dad afterwards. That was specially I got he arly comes to any games. He battles nerves so much. I think haven't been in the coaching profession, it's hard. But he came to the Sweet Sixteen league games. That was maybe the third game had been tuna probably. I dunno few years and then for him to not come to the final four game. But the championship. I was. I was glad he's there to see because I think it was like you said I heard you say it was really a high level game. And I know a lot of people it's gonna be so low scoring, but ironically, you know, it wasn't quite that way. But it was teams answering each other. And as I said, his fingerprints are over my coaching and. I watched him do it with, you know, maybe less talent and take programs beyond. So it was really good. That was that game. You mentioned was that one of your first years of broadcasting. I think it was nineteen ninety one or ninety two hours a senior. And we did the it was Butler verse. Yeah. Bay was that was that one here for stains doing that. I recall that a long time ago, and I remember that you didn't play much defense back there. Tony. Well, but I made it three pointer. If you remember to win it. I didn't know you could score. That's why I I'm always curious when a score is trying to teach defense because you guys are known for you're not as I did. We're talking to Tony Bennett. And he's head coach of Virginia. If I would've told you a year ago after the loss to you MBC. Hey, you're winning the national title next year. You would have said what? I would smile at you and said, that's you know, you're just trying to make me feel better because I feel like crap right now, honest answer. But, but I knew that it was going to be it's going to be a year that was going to be probably so important in all of our lives because of what we're going to have to face go through together. And absolutely new. We're going to need to rely on each other. And it it did some it did some unique bonding and boy built resilience in these guys in a way that I don't know what else could have from sports standpoint is like the player by that. This is a game. And this is sports. It's not life because there's so many worse things. But I do think it's a good message of like, you said hope and resiliency and guys come together. I I can't think of much better story in sports like, you know, for for us at least. What about bonding in the offseason, they have the devastating loss? And then what do you do as a coach to kinda hit the reset button in the offseason with these kids? Yeah. It was actually it was pretty cool. Everything was pretty intentional. And you know, obviously, we once we started our workouts. I decided to to go on a whitewater rafting trip. Just 'cause we said it's a blast. And that's fun. And and we we we did it. We had a good time. But the story the short of it is and went white water rafting. And I I talked to the guys about it. Why we were doing it? And I remember floating down the river. You know, looking up just saying to myself, Lord, what does this year have in store for us? So when we get to Minneapolis for the final four they gave us right when it got off the airplane. They for some reason, I get well, it's because the land of ten thousand lakes, they gave each player a paddle. And it says the road ends here. And the first thing we did as a team was go whitewater rafting kinda as a real strong team bonding thing besides, you know, the meetings, and you'll is all about the, you know, paddling together being in the boat. The ORs I thought it was really it was it was kind of neat iron. Neither way it started. And then the way kind of ended to getting to the final four at any moment in this tournament. Did you think it was gonna come crashing down? Well, yeah. And I guess to be honest. I I had made peace with whatever the outcome would be all year. And I noticed the sound strange. But if it meant I wasn't sure if I wanted to be initially another another number one seed one the fact that these guys stepped up and won a share of the ACC and battled, and then, you know, as we're getting closing like, all right. We're probably going to be a one c and with that comes unique pressures e even if you haven't lost that game. But when you've lost being the only team they history the game. And then you've got to step into that moment. Again. It's a pressure. Unlike anything team is of course, ever experienced and then to add to that when we were down fourteen. I thought that moment it was it was a bit much. But I remember telling guys at halftime, listen, you can't panic, but you gotta fight like crazy. And I think being that moment and seeing those guys like, you know, show the resiliency in the poised to win the Gardner Webb game. I think that and that's what I told them. Before the championship game. I said, you know, you you handled things and I said you were built for this. Because the pressure you face and overcome. I think that in a powerful way let us handle any of these things. But as I said sorry for the long answer I made peace with. Hey, if we're going gonna lose in the first round again, or if we weren't going to get advanced. I was okay with it. I went to being good again. But I know I could handle it. But I was just holding it with open hands. Now. I know that you're in the game in the moment. We're watching the game and your poor wife. I mean, I I don't know what you're going to do for her or take her someplace, Tony. She was every moment she was grinding grinding more than you were. That's awesome. She's actually one of the homeless most peaceful people. I know so I'll be curious to hopefully, oh, let me ever see watches got it. Hey, congrat- in joy, and please tell your father. I said a low. Thank you. Tony. I will Dan thanks for having me on. That's Tony Bennett. Continental tire coaches corner. Proud to be the exclusive tire the Dan Patrick show. No matter where you drive what you drive how you drive continental designs tires for. What you do? For more information. Visit continentaltire dot com. Continental tire for what you do. Yeah. He was referencing a game that I did I believe with George mcginnis. The former great ABA player and George was my color commentator, and we did a game at Butler Fieldhouse. So it's Butler against Wisconsin. Green Bay and Tony hit the game winning shot hit a three and he was a really good player drafted by the Hornets. But his father was such a clinical type coach like everything they were they were practising pick and rolls. And it's you know, a veteran. Team in it. I was thinking oh my God. This would drive me crazy, but he left nothing to chance, and you were practicing the same things over and over and over, and you he went onto Wisconsin. But a brilliant coach great coach and congrat- Tony. But you know, it's got to be a fun night. Where you're watching your son win a national championship. Having a hard time watching your son win a national championship at that. Yeah. Mclovin. I couldn't do it. I would I'd be right there with the data. I had trouble watching it with not even a vested interest last night. No, I I'd be the same way. I'd be out probably walking the corridor. I just like peak in or something. Yeah. Phone do you find your find yourself last night, not knowing who to root for minutes minute. Like when tech would be down seven like come on tech. And then when Virginia was down and they're down three, and they that kick out three like all right Virginia. I I couldn't tell who to root for well. You had Virginia winning at. All. Right. But I I really enjoyed having Chris beard in here you oh boy that guy, but you know, no dog in the fight. No. I just wondered. To see a good game. It was weird. I wanted to have people be proud of college basketball. Because I I I love it grew up on it always wanted to be able to play college basketball, and I sort of just wanted a good game. And I was hoping that there wouldn't be controversy. But you just can't have that anymore. There's always something. And you know, it's just because of television technology, and you had that. But guys made big shots when they needed to and Virginia picks up the victory last night. I think UCLA UCLA still didn't have a coach, and I'm gonna guess they're gonna go after Texas Tech's crispier d- when he was on with us last week at the final four, and then I brought this up and he said I'm just here to win a game. Well, he was there. And he won that one game. He needed to win the other game. But I'm gonna guess Chris beard with that leverage. I don't know what he can ask for from UCLA. But if they're gonna go after him and take a big swing it. You know? And you know, crispier strikes me as the kind of guy who might just say, I love Lubbock, Texas. I don't want to go to Los Angeles. And you could live well in Lubbock. And he he was there is in a socio you'll the assistant head coach Bob Knight. Yeah. Mclovin. Timmy, say the same thing about Brad Stevens and about Chaka smart. I mean, they loved like they love their small town teams. But eventually they always seem to grow out of it. Okay. But Chris beard has been all over the map. In fact, he didn't even know all of the stops that he had when we questioned him he missed one. And it just feels like he wants to find a place where he says that's home because he's been he's been a vagabond coaching vagabond. He's a rand McNally. He's forty six years of age. Do you want to stay in Lubbock where they'll build a statue? Or do you want to go to UCLA, and I don't know what UCLA's gonna pay him. And also is there a buyout at Texas Tech? He signed a contract extension. I think a year ago two years ago. Oh, yeah. Fritzy? Then you still have that strike while the iron is hot. And you're the hot thing right now. And who knows what the future holds if they start to dip then this is the time when you can go to some major program right now. Yeah. Phone this may be a hot. I don't think UCLA is a better job in any way. Forget the money. Texas Tech has a great fan base. They pack the place men's women's basketball. They've got a lot of money down. They could pay him the conference is better for basketball, the Fancher. It's better for basketball. I wouldn't go to UCLA even for more money. I would say at Texas Tech. Yes. It does seem to be certain programs that we hold onto that we remember being great. But haven't been in a long time, and that UCLA feels like one of those where it's like, no, no, no. They're supposed to be a hot property. That's supposed to be a big job. Yeah. We keep saying it's still a great job. But I don't know if it's a great job because famously cheap, and then you're not going to buy out, you know, somebody's contract. And then you're gonna look at somebody Mick Cronin. If they take Mick Cronin. They'll go to the tournament. I think he's that good a coach. The question is how. Successful is good enough for UCLA right now. Yes, mclovin. I think we're being too country. I mean, Westwood Lubbock. You really think there's no advantages to go to UCLA, I think that's that's beyond high. It's westwood. It's the nicest campus on the planet. Although I mean, he's one of several it's an amazing place amazing history. The obvious answer is you Sheila. I think I don't know if it is. I I don't eat. It comes down to comfort like where are you comfortable view wanna be in Los Angeles where you're just another team in Los Angeles. You know, it's it's a Laker town. You own Lubbock? You are Lubbock, and then you can say, well, yeah, you're still in Lubbock. He seems to like that. So I would I be surprised of crispier took the job at UCLA. Yes. I would seem saying I feel like what engine just said is exactly the point. He's aside from it being in Los Angeles in California where you're like. Oh my God. It's amazing. What about the history right member? All that old stuff that they did that was awesome. And no it's still supposed to be that. That's the problem. And they're they're still living in that era. Like, the sixties and seventies where we're UCLA and now people go, and yeah, fritzy, what about the challenge of you could be the coach to bring UCLA back to that national prominence back to those wooden days not to that type of success. But you could be the one that gets UCLA back on the map that that's kind of how being the guy who put your school on the map in the first place. He almost won a national championship in the previous year. They went to the elite eight they beat Villanova. He's a good coach. He is. Yeah. Polling the one thing. I'd be more worried about if I were Texas Tech is someday when university of Texas comes calling Chris beard went there. They have the deepest pockets on earth. That's the one I know it's a couple of years down the road because they have a good shock. Oh, yeah. Yarmuk love you can Google any NBA team can have a vacancy and crispier DHS. Name comes up close to the bulls or one I tell you the NBA might call him too. I hope he doesn't do NBA. Defensively NBA could have work. I you know, you love this. But Tom fill is a defensive minded guy and his players hated playing for him who the hell wants to play defense when you get to the NBA while at work out like the NBA's where you don't have to play defense. Like, you know, that's what I was waiting for. If I got to the NBA, then I would have been great because I didn't play any defense supposed to be playing ball whose work him, by the way, we picked five fans to compete in our subway celebrity bracket challenge congrat- to Donny Jeffries. He's the fan winner. He's the big winner. Well, well, done Donny Donny beat among the luminaries. Drew Brees, Bryan, Cranston. And fritzy and he's going to get free subs for a year. Courtesy a subway. I got my subway gold card that I have to send to Doney. So this is what you get this year. This is the gold, Kurt Butte. Yeah. There it is. That's the subway gold card there that send out the dining, and congratulations and thanks to subway for being the title sponsor of the celebrity racket challenge. Mclovin. You'll have a poll question. Clark Kellogg on the road to CVS will join us coming up. Jeff Eggers is the author of walk this way. And it's something a little different for this show. But I think you've come to trust me that this will be something entertaining. He wrote a book based on one song Aerosmith's walk this way. And then the collaboration with run DMC, and what that song meant to radio, and how it opened the door and change radio hill. Plane that Jeff edge is a great writer. He'll join us a little bit later on and the greatest soccer player in US history. Male or female, Abby Wambach will join us in the final hour of the chef. So few things to get to your phone calls are always welcoming seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Say good morning to our great radio Phillies around the country. Fritzy, great job in tracking down Tony Bennett. Once again, the golden phone was in question. Todd last night was a little nervous when we went to dinner because I said, look you can't live off your past your pants laurels here. If you're going to get the golden phone is greatest Booker in sports talk history, especially had to happen at the top of today's show. Yeah. And you don't want you answered the bell. So when we give out the phonies later on this year. The phonies. You're you're going to get one for the Tony Bennett. I look forward to receiving that. Although I did notice that Mike Greenberg and get up had Tony Bennett on as well. So maybe everybody got Tony day every. I can't control what other give us our guest with us. We should JT brick is he going to get get. I mean, I think they get two questions as out. All right. We'll take a break. Clark Kellogg will join us. Now that'll be coming up. We'll get two phone calls as well. Come up with the poll question stat of the day play of the day. All that coming up twenty after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick show. You don't see? And I can't believe I have to tell people this. But one of the most important things we do for our health every day is brushing your teeth. But most of us don't do a properly. You learn poorly when you're young and you never change developing bad habits early. Absolutely. That's why you gotta get quip. You know, sensitive sonic vibrations gentle Nuff on your sensitive gums. This is the best toothbrush. You could ever use. 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Geico, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance. Got a poll question in the on-deck circle. Your phone calls Clark Kellogg will join us coming up a little bit here. Not everybody thrilled with replay last night. Just judging from the reaction on Twitter quite a few people were offering their opinions. This from Jeff Schwartz replay was created a fix obvious miss calls and oversights. It wasn't created for whatever that was last night. If that's what you want replay to be then we need to review all plays like that inside two minutes because you never know pinky tip could graze the ball lands airline. This is the very reason that the expanded replays in the NFL, we're so concerning to me and why I was against it. I get that New Orleans got royally screwed, but that level of screwing that would cost a team a Super Bowl is an unusual outlier. This is now a potential pen door's box in the NFL as well. Tom e current this is. Cruder film BS Michael Beller were about about two decades into widespread replay review, and we're still letting unintended consequences rule. The day. Never was never will be the spirit of replay. But it was called correctly. That's this is the dumbest outrage of all time. People are watching people are watching the call made correctly. And they're like, yeah. But come on be wrong. That's the it's the dumbest ache of all time. But it also goes back to what we think of with baseball. Hey, it's the spirit of the game. If you get a coal wrong. You know, it's it's part of the game. And I'm going, okay. It's part of the game. And the game is on the line or championships on the line. And then we're going. Where's replay? Yep. Point. I think people are bothered by the natural fact that the player from Virginia's tapped the ball out of the Texas player at Texas Tech players hand, and he's the one who knocked out of bounds. Did it technically graze the guy's finger last. Yeah. Yes. And the replay called the quickly, but a minute earlier there was a ball out of bounce off tech guy. And they said it was tech ball, and they replayed it everyone in the booth all the guys Nance and the guy said that's off tech that should be predictable. They hit they said tech keeps it so Virginia got one. Called against them as well. Clark Kellogg, CBS Turner sports Westwood One college basketball analyst and joining US Clark. Let's pick up where we just left off with replay. Did it is it good? Do you like it too much too? Little. Oh, no. I like it. I like it. I think it's far more good than bad, but there's a human element that you can't override, and you sometimes can't dismiss with technology. But I like the complementary nature of technology to to help us get things. Right. That maybe we wouldn't have in the past. But I also understand and enjoy the human element. We're gonna flood names on the air. We're going to have our facts wrong when we're doing broadcast and be you me or anybody else. Officials are gonna miss calls coaches are going to make mistakes players too. So we're all human. So I think that element of it is unrelenting, and there's going to be there should be we have to accept it. And know that sometimes it's not gonna always work out in our favor when you're in the journey of life or the heat of competition. But also I look at how much is enough replay or not enough. White what is review -able or should reveal? Yeah. That's a great question. Dan. I don't know exactly where you draw the line. I think we've gone in a pretty good direction. But just because we have technology, and we think we can get everything right evidence shows that we can't. So I don't know. I mean, I think that's always going to be an ongoing debate. Where do you draw the line? What things should be reviewable? You know, you think about goaltending. And should that be something that's able to be looked at I tend to think it should be. But at what point how often I mean, again, you have to deal with those kind of nuances, and I heard you mentioned unintended consequences. Sometimes you don't know those until you go down a certain road with your decision. Virginia. Great team. Really really good team. And I would I mean, heck what thirty was that thirty five and three I think, but we have great teams anymore in college basketball. Oh, I mean, it depends on how you wanna look at it. I think we have. Obviously, the landscape is changed. But I I reserve I really try to be judicious with the word great in any circumstance just because it really is unique. When you start talking about great in any category. So I would say a championship very very good team was trying to for Jin. But if you were going to sum up this game last night for somebody who didn't see it. Uh-huh. Which is how would you sum it up? An excellent compelling championship game between two deserving teams. And I probably would leave it at that. You know, no monumental greatness. Either way really good teams styles that were obviously anchored and defense. But we got what we hope for in terms of compelling tight drama feel championship game and extra basketball to boot. So I think it's one of the better championship games. I'm seeing was my twenty third final four in some capacity as a broadcaster. And I would put it in the top top top five for sure of the twenty three that I've been part of as a broadcaster. If you're Texas Tech today. How are you feeling? Disappointed deflate. It. But good about the journey. I mean that may take a minute when you're in the heat of losing a chance to win a championship that doesn't just immediately go away. But I think those kids in that program, and the coaches will be I'm certainly the kids in the players kids in the coaches will be disappointed because they had an opportunity to do something Guber special, and yet they'll still take great satisfaction and pride and what they built together and some of it. We don't see Dan relationships. The share adversity overcome on the bond of friendship with the diverse group of guys. I mean, those things are are lifelong and lasts forever. And you've got this shared experience. Sure. It didn't end the way you wanted it to but there's so much in the journey that is life edifying life building and memorable and good. And I think you end up ultimately grabbing hold of that. And it's going to get better. For them as the years go on because they'll reminisce reconnect around this great journey and share stories. So I think it's painful now, but the good of it is going to be on Phil for a long time with those kids accomplice. He's Kellogg's CBS Turner sports. Westwood One college basketball analyst did you play against Barkley? Yeah. The NBA. Yeah. We never cross passing college. I got drafted in eighty two by the Pacers. He came to the Sixers in eighty four, and I'll tell you a story, man. I he always tells about when he was thinking about coming out of college or I made his decision to leave college leave all and after his junior year Sony Smith is coach gave him gave him three guys to kinda look at it that time to maybe model his game after under-sized kind of power forward that that had some parameter skill to. And it was me Dantley, and John drew. And so there was a an admiration from a distance Barclay towards me as a player. And then when we got to the league, I think the first time we met I got the best of them. And and he implies that it was because he was a little bit in all. And then the next time I saw him. He got the best of me because he wanted to prove that he was on our level. And I knew then this was his rookie year. I knew then he was headed for for greatness because of his competitive spirit in his unique package of strength and speed and skill does. He talk, you know, does he give you grief? Always man. He likes to jab. You know, it'll jab you while he's looking at you tab, you from the side of the back. I mean, he likes to start a Potman. He reminds me of some of my friends in Columbus that like to what we call instigate through trash talk. He keeps it he keeps. He keeps it fun. And he's such a good natured guy, I love the three weeks that I have with all those guys, obviously, you see Ernie and Kenny and then I'm with Greg and stuff quite a bit. But the three weeks we have together as fun in part because there's mutual respect. And we enjoy the game. And a good laugh. I'll leave you with this. If you're Chris beard and UCLA calls. Wow. Man. You know, what I'm? I'm all about fit, Dan. And sometimes even though it looks it shines and glitters in one way, it might not be the right fit for a guy like Chris. And I don't know Chris well enough to know what I do know. He's a fantastic coach. And he seems like terrific guy. But it's about fit and alignment fit in terms of where you'll be and alignment in terms of what you thinking. And what you're administration is thinking in terms of vision and direction and culture. And if those things aren't right, then I think you have to think long and hard about staying where they are right. Yeah. I think that's well said Clark. It was fun. And always appreciate your time. Thank you, always great to be with you take care. That's Clark Kellogg road. Do the final four Westwood One. College bounced by endless was one of the great high school players I ever saw spectacular and knee injury. He went to Ohio State and wasn't the same kind of player healthwise when he got to the NBA but been around long time doing this Virginia's the first team to win the national title and lead the nation in scoring defense in the same season since nineteen fifty nine when California did it Bill. Russell in San Francisco. Also did it in nineteen fifty five and fifty six, you know, it feels like if you're going to have players who were gonna stay longer. I can teach you defense. I can I can have a philosophical approach to defense, and I can have less talent. I might not get the one in done, but I get the experience talent. And then you know, Tony Bennett's teaching defense. Chris beards teaching defense. You know, Kentucky, you might think. John Keller Perry's like he gets he's one in donors and just let him play. He teaches defense we know coach K teaches defense, I think sometimes college basketball gets a bad rap that it's you know, kind of sloppy in the one in guns, but these coaches they're trying to teach defense, and it's not exciting. Like granted, you know, when you're watching through teams that are really good in defense, even in football in the NFL like we're so past that now where you go. I can't wait to watch the bears dominates somebody defensively. You wanna see offense same with college basketball? And then, you know, the advent of the three pointer and the willingness to build your offense around that is really interesting with college basketball. So you have coaches trying to teach defense Tony Bennett's stickler for defense, even though he didn't play defense when he played in college. But his dad was a great proponent of teaching defense when he was head coach. So defense wins championships. I don't care. What sport it still comes down to can you stop somebody when you need to stop them never fails. Tried and true. You know, you look back on the Rams against the sings they stopped them. They stopped them in overtime. And then one and then they went to the Super Bowl. The Rams couldn't stop the patriots. When they needed to you have to have that moment where can you play defense in the same? You know, the NBA playoffs could come down to that can somebody stops somebody when they need to on. Do you think that crispier and Tony Bennett will have trouble recruiting the top ten high school player because their defense first team and have had that trouble? But if I'm looking at Virginia and Kyle guy and tiger own they get to shoot. So you other asking for in this may sound like a strange idea. We're asking you to play both ends of the floor. That's it. Yeah. So that's what coach K says you can go there. We'll have fun. We'll run but you gotta play defense here. And that's what Virginia did pile guy got shoot whenever he wanted to. I told you you know, what was a couple months back tiger OEMs NBA player. He's a really wonderful player hunters going to be you know, a guy draft in the first round. I don't know if somebody takes a flyer on Kyle guy. I would not frayed great range and still hit some of the biggest free throws in the history of the sport. When you think what's at stake there, and he goes to the line and makes three and even last night. He was shooting a free throw with a couple of seconds. He was teammate. And he's like chuckling. And then all of a sudden, boom, boom like nothing. So pretty remarkable. All right. We'll take a break. We gotta play the day coming up stat of the day. We'll settle on a poll question as well. Busy first hour here in New York City down the danettes, Dan Patrick show. Okay. This is just a thirty second commercial. And I'm gonna throw a lot of numbers that you, please. Please stay with me. 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Couple of coming at critical moments. He finished with twenty seven leading all scores. Virginia gets its first ever national championship. Play of the day. Brought to you by truecar car shopping can be confusing terms like dealer price list price, invoice, truecar shows you what other people paid for the car you want. So you can recognize good price when you're ready to buy a new or used car, visit truecar and enjoy more confident car buying experience. Mclovin. Do you have a poll question for me and fritzy has mock headlines from last night's title game? Okay. I have a couple questions that are similar. What's good NCA tournament? I love when I'd say fritzy's got mock headlines, paulie, immediately turns around. Yes. Phone brits. He's off to a great start this morning. Good day yesterday. Twenty Bennett already today. He's concerned which rightfully so that could be something inappropriate to send it out to everybody. I knew you. You you're leading the marathon at the halfway point. And now, you're gonna drop back headlines. You know, I'm just putting it all into the center of the table is basically saying why ruin a good daytime. Are we still doing that same thing where if the first one does it work, I'm done coming? I'm gonna let you if you wanna go down in flames and continue to throw, you know, wood on the fire them. I'm okay with excellent. Okay. So we're ready for market to mock headlines music here for phychi. All righty. Here's my headlines from last night Scotto game is thought for all right? We're going to start enough with flublic Texas Tech comes up short not instead of Lubbock. He added it you'd be f- there. Okay. Humiliation to jubilation Cavaliers come full circle beard science formidable defense created not enough. He said a weird science. It's beard signs. What a guy Kyle named most. Outstanding. Okay. Okay. Blue raiders going to take a while to get over that one. Instead of the red raiders blue raiders imposing their Charlotte's will to national title. University of Virginia in Charlottesville. Imposing charlotte. Artists will be post near will. Okay. Give me way is that beyond a stretch rate Charlotte's web. That's what I thought. Okay. And we'll wrap it up with this sounds like I'm getting a look at your a Mooradian defeat balls now being served spaghetti and meatballs, Meridian and. Okay. All righty. You slip back in the pack here. The wall is a Kenyan going by you in a few of them. Yeah. They're gone. Thank you. Thank you, mclovin. Which poll question today? So I put it earlier in the hour was good NCA tournament. Overall. Fifty four percent said yes, now, I we could ask the question was last night. One of the best title games you've ever seen as Clark Kellogg said. It was he said top five that he's done. But so so five in the last twenty three years. But I I think I think the issue that CBS is probably going to have is how many people went out of their way to watch it. It's it's one of those things that you're watching it. And you may have you know, had somebody give you an update, and then you decided to you know, kind of tune in a little bit later on. I, you know, the first seven minutes weren't very good. And then after that it happens that way you got to settle down you get into your offense. Your defense a little bit more of a rhythm. And you block out, you know, the insularity stuff. But I thought it was exciting. I thought this was a great fun tournament. You had some really interesting moments there, you had a couple of players who came to the forefront that you probably didn't know everybody overshadowed by Cihan and Virginia to book end two seasons with losing in the first round, and then winning the national championship. I think it's a great story. It's not an exciting or sexy story. But it's a great story. Yes. Mclovin. Any problem with the nine twenty eastern tip off time would I like it to be a little earlier. I would. I would love for it to be eight twenty instead of nine twenty people on the west coast. I'm sure loved it. And you wanna get all time zones involved in it. It's just there. I remember growing up where you were able to watch games. I don't remember where it was so late that I couldn't watch a game. And I think a lot of these leagues are catering to a time instead of to an audience if that makes sense like I gotta make sure that the younger fans will watch. This are interested in this. And not hey, we got to put it on at nine twenty because we gotta get the west coast offense. Like there has to be a little bit of give and take there but nine twenty is is late for somebody on a school night. It's it's late for people left to work the next morning like us what other questions do you have? Okay. We could get into a replay new have a problem with this detail the use of replays. We saw last night if you have it then use it. Like you. You can't go, you know, what we shouldn't use it here because let's just let that one go. You know, what this game to be decided on a fingertip pinky? Well, if you're using it, then use it. That's all it it. It doesn't make sense to have it. And then say, let's pick and choose when we use it here. Yes. It would be kind of fun, though, if we instituted a new rule that was like, well the ball the guy touched the ball is touched it a little bit. And then it doesn't count like just got a fingertip on it doesn't really count. So I'd rather not have replayed. All. Just in all sports that well because I I'm with you. I think we're going to itemize so much and slow things down so much and we're going to scrutinize every single call with these officials. They get them wrong. They make mistakes, but we always added more replay. We're not we're not taking away. And then you add more. And then you have the advent of five K I four K change sports late show, we get this. And then, you know, the minutia that's going to be available there. I just I don't know how much you replay. When you replay like in the last two minutes. So we're going to replay everything. Okay. And then it's all well, something happened at two minutes and seven seconds. Let's make it the last three minutes, you know. And the reason why we change replaying the NFL was because of one call the New Orleans call that was horrible. I didn't want to change it. I just wanted to make sure the officials called it correctly or not have these all star. You know ref. Therese together you have teams together were there. No egos, where somebody can say, hey, you know, what John I think you made a mistake there. Yes. He people have gone absolutely insane today with a great play that. No that the conversation is about they got the call correctly and people didn't don't want it to be the right call. They want the wrong call to happen. That's actually people are saying today would have been better if they had stuck with the wrong call. That's I think people look at it. Go so stupid, doesn't it feel like the ball like Virginia knocked it out of bounds. Yeah. But they but it went off hand. Sorry. It's no different. If the guy had tipped it. And it went off his knee instead of his pinky sorry. Sometimes somebody tips the ball, and it goes back off your own body. Sorry that happens in the game a thousand times, I'm not big on the tuck rule with with Brady. And the raiders I think it was the wrong rule. But the interpretation of the rule was correct. I didn't like the rule because I think it was a fumble. But the tuck rule and how it's written. Then you call it that way instant replay. Is ruining sports because it keeps getting calls, right? That's basically what we're saying today replay keeps getting calls, right? And it's ruining the game days where we could be wrong. Just move out our lives. Exactly what people are arguing today doesn't. It seem like that would be a headline on the onion. Instant replays ruining sports as it gets all the coals. Right. We're living today. We're actually living this conversation. Yes. Mclovin. But I think the problem is still going to be two hundred wrong calls at a game. Like, you can't you can't catch everything with replay. Okay. But how much are we going to reply? That's what's open to replace what I wanna know like where we going if that had happened in the first four minutes with they've stopped the replay. I don't know maybe. But you they have a choice where they're allowed to stop. And look at it. There's no coaching challenges. Right. I don't know. Coming up. He wrote a book on the song. Walk this way. Jeff edges will join us. How that changed radio Abby Wambach raiders soccer player? US history. Will join us as well. We'll get to your phone calls. Eight seven seven three DP show. 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And let it be done on this day that nevermore shell the word redemption be spelled without the letters U V. Let's take you to the title game last night who saw this coming a phenomenal game of the night for the national championship. Number one seed Virginia number three seed, Texas Tech in Minneapolis, picking up in the second half three and a half to go. Texas Tech's down three not any more. The drive the dish. Yes. And Patrick Mahomes all of a free throw tie the game in the closing minutes later under one deployed, Texas Tech down one Oliver covert me. Yes. Suspending the score. Texas Tech has a here's the huge moment in the game Virginia down three twenty seconds of light patio. Leave. The Andrea hunter opened in the corner. The three times he had seventeen in the second half. We're tied at sixty eight in suing taxes taxation covert for the way. No, good run overtime. Where's time to championship game and eleven year in the OT Yuba down one hunter again how good with this kid twenty seven points for the fight it up back in Charlottesville. You'll be up to same school minute fifteen ago Jerome driving. No, we're going the other way. Here's a huge moment. In the game. The ball post away by hunter taught the hands of Dave Moretti, literally office hands a very close. Call alternately ruled Virginia ball, we'll talk about it in a moment. Because this went a long way toward the side of the outcome. In the end Virginia was briefing. And then this uncontested Jan Virginia wins eighty five seventy seven it was closer than the final scores out. And so again a year removed from the worst loss in basketball history. Virginia atop the college hoops now. Forget last year. The has just everything you turn up since you're a little kid. You know what I mean? I'm not even thinking about you in be right now. I'm just thinking. This is a dream come true. You have scars. Right. You have a scar. That reminds you that. But. You know, it's a memory. I does go away completely. No. I wish that went to happen. Some ways now say, well, if it bought us ticket here, so be it. We definitely had our time. We're in our shows and upset and whatnot. But to be able to move past that and get where we are. Now is incredible. He's the pain gone run. I still feel a little 'cause I remember that feeling, but I think I'm okay. What a remarkable game. And you know, who took notice you NBC. That's the team that knock you out last year was a sixteen seed offering their congratulations on Twitter what an incredible season for you VA that was truly a turnaround for the ages. Congratulations to the champs, and of course, on the positive side. There's always the negative side the tough loss for crispier and Texas Tech. Chris look like you stopped to talk to a couple year guys before they walked off the floor. What was your message to them after the game there? Just. Just taught him. I loved him. And. You know, relationships just getting started. Those guys I weddings one day. Hopefully when their kids get born. Do everything I can talk them out of getting into coaching. They don't ever feel like this. But I just love those guys. Tough loss for crispy or team at a three point lead with twenty two seconds left in regulation that gives them e seventy six percent chance to win the game. Virginia, overcoming a deficit of three or more points in the final twenty five seconds of regulation in each of its last three games. So perhaps we can say they were destined to win this championship. Let's a Minneapolis. Or we find ourselves Greenberg. Live good morning set. Thank you for doing this early in the morning. Let's talk about it Virginia down by three in the final seconds as they always seem to be and still found a way to win. What is your reaction to this incredible run? Well, you most times degrading at team reflects its coaches personality. And when you saw what Virginia did in the last three games when the game was on the line. They ever say comments contagious that you looked on that sidelines. You saw Tony Bennett. He was relaxed. He was calm. He was in the moment. And so was his team. Whether it was the Auburn game where there's two Purdue game or last night. This team was poised. They were well coached to a row prepared and they trusted their instinct with a little bit of luck. But I really believe that this team is a reflection of Tony Bennett at his personality, a fierce competitor. But a quiet calm. Couple of real interesting moments to look at in this game. And let's start with what I guess we would call the defensive breakdown you tell me when Virginia sets up the game tying three late regulation by hunter. Here's a Texas Tech team that got here with defense, but they leave the wide open shot. What did you see on that flight? Yeah. On that last play as tiger um was coming down the floor. You so little bump at the foul line on that bump they switched or the OSCE. Got stuck on tides Rome. They took a bad angle on that play and that Mabel tie Jerome to get into lane and get downhill when he got downhill quite honestly, give them the two points. Texas Tech over helped to players rented a basketball, they kick it out the hunter, and they knocked down that three but Creedy as Portas that play was at the end of the first half that was just as important play. They gave up a three at the end of the first half. And they had two fouls to give that is a play as much as the last plate over helping taking a bad angle onto switch as bad as that play was the play. That's really gonna hunt crispier is at the end of the first half they had two thousand to give to to give. So instead of giving that those two thousand they gave up a three and in the end that was the difference in the game. It's a game that winds up in overtimes. Of course, everybody at ones up mattering. I also want to get your take on the loose ball play in OT. Would you showed a moment ago? And the highlight it's a reversal. It gives Virginia the ball back. It's an enormous moment in the game. What was your assessment of how that call was handled? The whole idea of of replay is to be able to get the call, right? And the officials got it. Right. I mean, they went to the monitor you can see stuff Moretti's hands. And unfortunately for Texas Tech. They don't get the possession back. But the officials took their time they went to the modern you can see come ready saying and unfortunately for Texas Tech, they lose that possession possession possibly could have been the game winning possession. But you know, the whole idea at the end of the game the whole idea of replay. We can complain about play. We can talk about how long it takes. But the most important thing at the end of the game. Get the call, correct? They got the call. Correct. Great for Virginia unfortunate, obviously for Texas Tech nine Seth Greenberg. Well done. Thank you so much for getting up early this morning after late night last night. And after the game was over people were still talking about that call. But. Why? Terrible. You think replay on the way of what had done on the link. I'm don't play in college bathroom. So I can finally say I don't say that. All right. So it's understandable. Why they would be that kind of frustration there and everything else. So Jalen and farnam, Sean, I'll give you your first crack at this thing here. It's it's ironic because we wanted replay the other night to try and solve a problem in the semi final game. And now some people are saying replay caused a problem last night. What is your perspective? It's the same people is the same people just looking for controversy. Okay. So the other night when they miss the Jerome double dribble. It's all we need more replay in the game. Then last night. It's like, oh, no, no, no. We too much replay in the game. And it hurt it down the stretch. I'd be interested. If if the shoes were reversed if Francis would feel that it was still a bad call if he was if it was Virginia that that ball went off, and they reversed it and gave it to Texas Tech. What do you feel that was about call? No he wanted. He would know that. It's the correct call. That's the frustration. And the emotion of the moment, I totally get it. But the other day you want the call, right? And if you look at it from another angle, he probably got away with a travel. So the the officials did not cause the winner or the loser. Okay. At the end of the game in regulation. You cannot you cannot give up that open three early hell by Culver your best player. He cannot allow that three to get an open look and for him to knock the shot down. I think they were demoralized once. They went in overtime. They didn't come out and how to same fire take us through those circumstances. They again is the conversation had at some point late-game, twelve seconds left. I believe is exactly what's on the clock three points allow the layup you heard Seth sake allow the guy to try all the way to the basket. If you want you to think about your best players is they have to be the most disciplined when the stakes are the high. Okay. One hundred four threes in the game. He's probably going to be a lottery pick covert play will throughout this NCA tournament run. He's probably going to be a lottery both of those guys were on this play. So where he when this ball handler turns the corner, you got allow them to shoot delay up. You cannot give up. Straight line pass to a corner three. He knocked the interesting thing about that to me. Is you go to the zone, and that's what they played on that possession. They went to the zone defense. And I think the philosophy all year long for Texas Tech has been when someone drives we gotta plug the hole and not allow them to get to the rim. Right. And in that moment, it's a mental breakdown. One hundred percent, you're right mental breakdown. But they went to the tendencies in which they've played with for thirty eight games and the way that they've been drilled in coached the entire. All right. We have so much San this. Let's just take a moment. Jalen, I mean, what UVA does here a year ago? They suffered literally the worst loss in college basketball. History is sixteen had never beaten a one. They will always be the first one ever to lose to a sixteen and twelve months later, look where they are what does that say embody the thrill of victory and Agni defeat that term, and I wrote down a couple of things they had to overcome in this evolving events NCAA tournament. They were trailing two sixteen c Gardner Webb at the half. They were trailing twelve sea org. At the have they won an overtime versus Purdue. And we saw her cars to Edwards was pointed a miracle to send that game to overtime in the first place. Absolutely. Didn't obviously you be Auburn on last second free throws. So this was a team that didn't get anything handed to them. They had to continue to show their resolve a squad that frankly, we have not talked about all year because this program, correct. Because I on played in their conference into the win the confidence design he knows by the way, they've been the most consistent team in that conference for the last six years they've won four of the regular season championships. And for all of those people that said, Tony Bennett style of play cannot win a national championship. Cannot get you to the final four. Let's put that to bed. He's one of the elite coaches he has a clear identity. He knows what he needs to get to be successful. And he does it every year we will talk to him live. He's going to join us in this hour about thirty minutes from now, we'll have Tony Bennett live much much more on the title game. As we continue this morning on get. But we have other things that we want to bring you this morning. Let us. Talk about that man because LeBron James Lakers season comes to an end tonight LeBron season as we know came to an end some time ago, but the Lakers season will come to an end tonight. And our Brian went horseshoes with us. This morning has a new book it is available. As of today is called the Braun Inc. To go out and pick it up right gradulate win. And there's been so much talk windy about this. So the Lakers season comes to an end tonight. And thus LeBron's for season. Officially comes to an end tonight. How do you put it in perspective, macbook perspective? However, we look at it what this year was for LeBron James on the Brian came down. It wasn't wholeheartedly a basketball decision. He also knew that they were going to have to build this team. And he thought that the building of the team was going to start last summer, but it was a false start. And here we are a season later, and they're really not any closer. And frankly, they don't have a clear path to making this team a lot better the free agents that they're gonna go after they are at best the second choice all the top to your free agents. Doesn't mean that those guys I twice as well. Materialize. They won't go to the Lakers, but they are hoping for lottery luck or free agent luck. Elsewhere it helped him well their off season begins officially tonight. And you were telling us in the meeting the first decision they need to make. They could make soon as tomorrow, I would expect that they have a decision on Luke Walton already made that they will hopefully inform him tomorrow. So that he can get on with his life. He will I believe get another job at some point relatively soon. And that they can move on with their coaching. Search quite frankly, there are guys lining up trying to interview for this job. And I think they need to get the process going because they have a major they have made your move that's due to their roster. They need to move on from coach their approach to this off season. I agree with you is going to include second tier free agents, the four ks is I'm calling Katie Coa Kharian clay. I think none of those guys ended up with the Los Angeles Lakers. It's going to be interesting to see what happens. We'll boogie cousins. He's going to be a wildcard he can't necessarily get a big deal with the Golden State Warriors Jimmy Butler. I think he's gonna find a way out of Philadelphia in. Probably going to end up in a large market, either New York or Los Angeles. So those are the two guys I'm kind of looking for the see if they can join the Brunton Ella. And I think coaching obviously is one of the most important cogs. I agree with you trying to set the table early. The names you here in Los Angeles. Obviously is Jay kid you hear tie Lou. Maybe Mark Jackson out of those coaches, which ones would be most appealing to some of those free agents at Jalen talking about. I think you have to get an experienced coach here. Even though I think there's a guy like Darvin ham or guide you on. How would you could do a good job as an MBA head coach with a thirty four year old Brian James turning thirty five managing that managing the expectations. I think they need an experienced coach. But says why think tiles name championship coach experience with LeBron rises to the front Ireland? I think Todd Lou is with the job. We'll see one of the things I wanted you to mention to the audience because you said this to me earlier today and had never really crystallized my mind this way, a lot of people are criticizing LeBron saying that the decision go to LA was not a basketball one you made the point the decision to go back to Cleveland. The second time. Maybe also not purely actually bats the ball though. He was going to have really good team a better team than the one thing. He didn't Cleveland then he couldn't do in LA. He convince somebody to come with. And he picked up the phone and got Kevin love to get forced trade to Cleveland. But yes, there's no doubt this media business in his future. Played a role in decision to go to Los Angeles. But that shouldn't necessarily be a sin against him. When he came to Cleveland was a family decision and a lot of ways. Yeah. It was a family and a redemption decision talked a lot about redemption this morning. That's what that was for. Lebron? The real question is are they coming back with basically the same cast of characters and a new coach next year because of the answer to that is yes, this thing could take a really ugly turn much more on this as we go. But there's huge football news to get into because the second fourth of June Aaron Rodgers Mike McCarthy continues. And now it is Roger speaking out in a big way not at McCarthy. But at the notion that the organization Y dysfunction is his fault. All this in response to a report published by Bleacher report last week that contain critical accounts from some of Roger's, former teammates, here's some of what Aaron said. Yes. Yesterday. It's not a mystery. This was a smear attack by you know, a writer look through advances career talking with mostly irrelevant bitter players who all have an agenda, whether they're advancing their own careers or just trying to stir old stuff up part of the the article seems to to want to say, you know, the Packers a worried about me as leader the football team moving forward if they knew that. Why would they offer me a contract last year and two if I really dislike Mike that much? Why would I resign? No one if I play well, and we do what we do around here. It's going to be me and Mike my career. So if I really disliked him that much got re-sign, am, I really that is the money that important to me. I love Mike McCarthy Mike has been a huge part of my success and my career, and I've had some amazing moments on and off the field with my. Mike. That was just a taste of what Aaron Rodgers had to say yesterday. Let's bring in our NFL analyst Astle back. Timmy, what where do we begin? What is your reaction to Rogers response and all of this? I think couple of things greenie certainly Aaron Rodgers kinda stuck up for himself a little bit. There's been plenty of criticism of him as a leader. But I think the big takeaway here is how he really did this to stick up for Mike McCarthy. I mean think about this was really about, you know, the the Bleacher report article made a lot of people look back, but it made Mike McCarthy, look the worst. And you know in that interview. Erin spent a lot of time in you just played a part of it where he's talking about. How much a part of Aaron success has to do with Mike McCarthy. So I think this really was was kind of interesting from the standpoint of, you know, Aaron Rodgers probably spoke out as hard as he did to stick up for Mike McCarthy, this really I don't believe was as. About Erin as it was about Mike, the other big dramatic story. I mean, we should be talking about the draft here. There's this drama among NFL stars the next one, of course, is end Tonio Brown. We see him repeatedly calling out juju Smith Schuster. It comes up again that he brought up the late game fumble week sixteen last year against the saints. Now other people around the league are coming out on this. This is just an read of the Texans tweeting about AB I respect his game. But I can't wait to smash this dude, no need for that ram safety. Eric what a little, of course, played most of his career in the AFC also responded, no need for that showing true colors right here. No respect for this, dude. So guys are coming at a B. He wasn't done. He kept going. He posted a screen shot. Yesterday of a direct message that juju Smith Schuster had sent him back in two thousand fifteen asking for advice. He has subsequently you should know deleted this post, but it's up there. And as we all know once those things go up there for all intents and purposes, they're out there forever. So tim. What do we make of all of this drama? Antonio Brown continues to create on social media. I think it's it's making him look worse. And quite honestly, it's making juju Smith Schuster, look better. I mean since deleted post really made me think about juju Smith while he was at USC, basically saying, you know, hey, I love you Antonio Brown. I'm a wide receiver. How how could I maybe get better actually made me respect juju even more and juju is going to be a great player and already kind of is in his own, right? I think it makes Antonio Brown look selfish now with all of that being said granny, you know, this you look at the last six years the production from Antonio Brown has been unparalleled. I mean, he has been absolutely dominant the last six seasons. And so I think when you say, you know, you're talking about over one hundred catches over twelve hundred yards double digit touchdowns. He is a great player. So people can not like it. And my. Would be one of those people at the same time his production has been ridiculous. I just think we're seeing a selfish side of him that maybe we didn't really see in the past. It does make you wonder your career, obviously, a brilliant player. But he got everything he wanted. You got the trade. He got the money why he won't. Know why he's upset? Yes. I agree back. You're the best. Thank you, my friend. Good to see you. We take a quick break. Here. We got so much still to come out next anytime. Tiger Woods comes to Augusta nationally is in contention. We'll tell you why his first nine holes Thursday will determine whether or not he wears a green jacket Sunday. That's on the way. And from the biggest upset in history to champions last night. How does Virginia coach Tony Bennett field this morning? We'll ask him as he joins us live in this hour. You're watching ghetto on ESPN. Up is brought to you by Liberty Mutual insurance. Only pay what you need. We've got a terrific power coming your way on get up including insight into Aaron Rodgers response to all of this criticism. What did he mean? And why did he say we'll go live to Augusta as we prepare for Tiger Woods quest to win another green jacket and the coach of the national champions. Tony Bennett will join us live twenty five minutes from right now, which brings us to a little sneaky, hembo, time. This one's for them. Regina last night became the third team in the last twenty years to win the championship with three or fewer losses were the other two three or fewer losses. 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When our friends from ESPN trove, join into the big the hottest topic since board, but Monty and Pablo greenie, Jalen Levitan through reality and Woody plus Tony and bike you earned it the lot of big top so tune in each day next week at ten AM eastern as I think welcomes the best the ESPN. Fun next week. Jaylen we'll get to that in a minute. But right now sneaky, hembo, time after Virginia wins the title last night eight farnum there the third team in the last twenty years to win the title with three or fewer losses. Who were the other two? I'm gonna go with Kentucky twenty twelve with Kansas in a way. Oh my goodness. He got it. Exactly. Right. The Kentucky team was the Anthony Davis team Trigano, hembo, and they didn't hit harder team time. Oh, Bardem gets it done. And our coverage of the championship game continues here in just a minute because we'll be incredulous as we welcome. Tony Bennett to the program. The Victoria's combs among the VA will join us live in fifteen minutes, but between now, and then we got other business to get to including more from this Aaron Rodgers again, we played you this lengthy bit of sound from him just a few moments ago responding to that report in Bleacher report last week. That was extremely critical of Mike McCarthy and very critical of Rogers himself and to sort of sum it up. Again, we played you it in detail a few moments ago to sum it up. He's strongly defended his former coach Mike McCarthy and blasted some of the former players who are quoted in the article. And so I want to bring in our NFL insider, Dan, Grazziano, what do you make of all of this? What what should we be taking away from this? As the Packers begin the next chapter of their organization. Well, look at you know, blame the media is not a new concept. Unfortunately, we live in a time when maybe more than ever and in arenas far more significant than ours. Newsmakers are able to get the public on their side and say all of this is the media. This this stuff from Rogers is right out of the blame. The media handbook. This is the writers trying to make an aim for himself. The players involved are irrelevant, and then a straw, man argument of well, if this was the case, then why would I have resigned what their answers to all of that at the bottom of this? This is a player doing what he has to do. So we can walk back into the locker room. So he can face the fans all that the perception of Aaron Rodgers as sort of arrogant, and aloof and condescending has been out there for a while the story, obviously brought it to light in tremendous detail with on the record quotes from former teammates. But he's still there. He's still playing quarterback for the Packers. He's still operating the public arena. So he obviously he has to come out and strongly defend himself. All I. Is were already on this situation the intensity of the scrutiny on Rodgers and the Packers will only ratchet up as a result of all of this nine. I agree with you on most. If not all of that, let me get to the other dramatic thing here. We just talked about the AB thing quickly pop up all of these social media pieces because it started with Antonio Brown. Does not letting it go ripping juju Smith Schuster on social media. Justin Reed who plays for another team entirely. Houston tweeting about AB I respect his game. I can't wait to smash this, dude, Eric Wendell. Who's now on the Rams tweeted, no need for that showing true colors right here. No respect for this dude Antonio Brown. Meanwhile, doubling down the posting a screen shot of a DM. That's the juju. Smith Schuster sent him. Looking for advice back in twenty fifteen. Antonio Brown took this down as we always say about social media those things on their own level, stay up forever. What are you hearing around the league about Antonio Brown who seems to have gotten everything he wanted and just will not let it go. He won't let it go. And look, I guess the emphasis of this was a tweet or an Instagram post saying pointing out that juju Smith Schuster was voted team MVP of the Steelers last year look talking to people close to Antonio Brown. And around that situation when it was all going down before the trade, it became clear that this is a player who felt slighted and that the emergence of Smith Schuster as a star and a beloved figure on the team rankled him a bit because he felt like this is a guy who's just getting started. He wouldn't be as productive. If I wasn't on the field with him that may be true. But it definitely seems to have stayed with Antonio if you're right. He got everything he wanted. He's in Oakland. He's got the new contract. And yet it's still bugs him that somehow in Pittsburgh. He felt like he wasn't appreciated as much as he should have been looking forward. What's it mean for the raiders, obviously, this is a player that they're going to have to keep happy? Obviously, that's not necessarily always going to be easy. So another situation that people were watching closely that as a result. Of all this the scrutiny will once again, only intensify. All right, Dan, Graziano, well done just craziness around the league is we bear down on the draft. We'll check in with you again soon. I want to get back to the basketball again, the coach of the championship teams going to join shortly. But the Atlantic recently conducted a poll among current NBA players about the most important topics and discussions in the league right now it included the headline awards like who is the MVP. And in that question which Brian winters voted yesterday. Live on our show for Yana Santa Cuco, the players voted for James harden with Janas right behind him. And Paul George third. I didn't want to focus on this. Because this one is possum. Anyway, I don't think anyone is going to be outraged regardless of which of those two guys winning. There was some secondary questions that I thought were much more interesting when the players are asked to is the most overrated player in the NBA. There was a tie between Draymond green. And Russell Westbrook. That's the one I want to bring to the table windy. You made an interesting observation when I showed that to you earlier today about trauma. Well, drink by believes he's one of the most. Rated layers in the league. And he thinks he's one of the most underpaid players too. So that would probably hit him pretty hard. What do you think challenge is Draymond green overrated or underrated? Draymond green is underrated. I've been watching trae migrate says he was in high school for those that don't noise from Saginaw Michigan. He was a champion then he overachieved at university of Michigan State University. He played there for years. And if you look back at his footage. He's changed his diet. Any changed his approach in approve this jump shot. He was a second round pick. Yep. Now, he's a three time off star and a three time champion and a starter on the best team in basketball. Yes. But for how long because it does bring up an interesting question, depending on how this postseason shakes out. What do you think drain moms immediate future? Brian Windhorst might look like well Draymond has pretty much yelled from the rooftops that he wants a contract extension this summer, which he is eligible for and he wants a big one because he feels he is under paid from his last contract that before the. Spike. The question is with his body breaking down a little bit. And frankly, his last season and a half. He's is numbers have decreased as well. Will the warriors be willing to give him the contract? He wants this is going to be a battle. We know because Draymond has switched agents and hired Rich Paul of sports to go to battle form. And the question is if Kevin Durant leaves we'll the warriors retrofit their roster around the slash brothers and look to trade Draymond green somewhere secretly in a drawer or in a locked file. There's a list of trade opportunities that the warriors have come up with for Draymond green. Because they have preparing for this moment, and the primary person the warriors might be trying to get in a trade their dreams. Now, if they lose K D is they will call the pelicans offer for Anthony Davis. Now, the big thing Davis is what happens with the Celtics. If Kyrie walks to the Celtics make the premium offer because the Celtics can outbid the warriors. They can outbid the Lakers, but the Celtics. Don't make premium offer, which frankly is possible. If guy re walks it brings in a whole lot of other scenarios, but any team that would trade for Draymond green would inherit the exact same issue that the warriors are facing he wants to be paid a huge extension this summer, but how much of his numbers. Do we credit to the fact that Katie is there, and there's just not enough basketball to go around to maintain the numbers that he one point in time had with his roster. It's a legitimate question. The other question is he is in such a perfect spot. Look, I respect Draymond like crazy. I agree with you. I watched the big ten every single night he made himself into a really good NBA play. But he's also with the perfect circumstances for what he does. What do you think of that next year? The warriors could be no K D. No, draymond. No boogie and add Anthony Davis. Does that feel like a possibility to you? It does the Anthony Davis part doesn't seem like a possibility for me. I agreed in their starting five. I believe only the splash brothers. We'll be returning next year. But when I look at that overrated list a couple of things. Kind of stood out to me one Draymond in Russell, a both abrasive aggressive players. And so that's going to always rub guys the wrong way in a league where everybody seems to be friendly toward one another. This is personal you think these guys taking person personal dig. And if you looked at three four five in no particular order those guys were on the same team start this year starting this year. Jimmy Butler Wiggins in town they were all on the same team. They probably voted for each other. How about how about that? But how did how is Russell Westbrook legitimately on that list? I think he's the most under appreciated player what he's been able to do three consecutive seasons of averaging a triple double. We've never seen this before. Really? And yet we sit there and nobody talks about him at all. And we say he's stat hunting or he's this look Paul George and the benefit of what Paul George has done this year. Some of that is to Russell Westbrook. Sean, you noticed planet UCLA, MS Jim for years played out there for fifteen years. Was there? Russell was there. I remember when they made it to the NBA finals, I walked down to the court and gave Russell a hub and apologize for the way that the media was assassinated in this man's character and talking about his game since then he's become an MVP. He's overcome K D Lieven hall. Georgia state. Billy Donovan is still the coach. He's averaged triple doubles for three straight years. He's become one of the best players in the game. I have to break. His Tony Bennett is coming out. We'll ticket very short time out. But after engineering the greatest bounceback in basketball history. And I think it literally is that Tony Bennett coach if you cut down the nets last night joins us live next. We're back on get up. And you remember it. Well, last year Virginia became the first number one seat ever lose to a sixteen in the NC double A tournament losing to you NBC this year bouncing back the Cavs and big way winning a share of the ACC regular season championship for the fourth time. In the last six years. They have been consistently the best team in that conference. They didn't lose to Florida state in the conference tournament semifinal. It was their third loss of the season. It would be their last. They would advance to the elite eight taking on Purdue forcing overtime. I'm that miracle shot overcoming forty two points from Carson Edwards to advance to the final four in the final four the national semis against Auburn. Another extraordinarily close. Call. Kyle guy. Unbelievably clutch making three free throws after a foul called on this play do send UBA to the championship game for the first time where de'andre hunter made that huge three to help send the game into overtime. And in the end. It is Virginia cutting down the nets last night winning. The national championship in overtime. And we are the lighted to welcome the championship winning coach Virginia's Tony Bennett with us live on the phone now here on get up. And now coach I've been trying to put it into words this morning. I'd love you to do it for me from where you were twelve months ago to where you are. How would you describe this journey for you and your basketball program? Humbling. It really is to to experience what we did as a program, and how tough it was and kind of knowing what we'd have to face. But seeing our young men answer the call. They just they kinda would they just refuse to to not just not take a step back, and and we had to deal with a lot of stuff. But as I've said many times in in ways, it draws closer together and the hunger in them to to have a great off-season. And then just we talked about Kyle said of the press conference. We said let's instead of worrying about the finish line. Let's run to the starting line and get ready to you know, I don't wanna say it was revenge. But it's just we can take step, and you know, some of the pressures had a face even in this year's tournament. The first ten minutes being down fourteen minutes to a number sixteen number another number sixteen that was real pressure. And they the way they responded and showed the resiliency or whatever word you want to use was I. I think remarkable. And it was only the first of many times, I just ran through a few of them here. Again, your team was behind and needed an incredible comeback and a late shot to beat Purdue you needed to three free throws to beat Auburn you needed to lay three last night to send it to overtime. How did your team? Find ways to win these games. When in so many circumstances. They look in the verge of losing again. I wish I could say it was all this fine coaching, and you know, being strategy. But they those young men found a way they made the plays. They did so much stuff. And I don't know there's a great story that that is kind of unfolding that. I know it was just a basketball game or a basketball tournament. But what I don't know. I just think it was a message hope, and perseverance and enjoying the end that that I think is is a good word for so many people and your father was a great head coach. I remember from my days in the big Tannock, Wisconsin took that program to the final four once upon a time. He wasn't there Saturday night. He was there last night. What did it mean to you to have him there last night, a great? I mean, he he's had the biggest impact on my basketball career anyone to play for him coach with him. And and he battled his nerves so much. That's why he'd never comes. Or doesn't your watch my games? But the fact that he was there for the elite eight game to go to the final four. And then he came. Into the championship game. I'm glad he could just take it in and savor it. And it just just a father son bond is so special especially to do the fresh and so meant the world that he would come now, it may or may not be reasonable. But we tend to view championship winning coaches a little bit differently. What do you think this win does for you? And for your program. I don't know. I honestly, I don't even really care. I'd say that respectfully I it just was about I love competition. And I love like just kinda get a groupie young men to be really good. And for our young men. I wish I could've taken that team with Malcolm Brogdon, those guys we got the lead eight against Syracuse and lost a big lead. But I just I'm glad we did it. And and it's you know, people will have their opinions of your style. What you do what you don't do. But I just I enjoy the game. We always talk about the joy of competition in the fun and the pursuit of a championship. And and we had a blast. And we grew a lot. This process, and whatever people think of our program or me as a coach is doesn't really matter couch. Congratulations again, I think you said it, right? It is remarkable story of redemption for your program. Congratulations on a wonderful win. And thank you for doing this this morning bikes like Sony van with us. Now, let's get to Augusta. It represents are Super Bowl trophy represents our NBA championship trophy like the holy grail of the guy. This mythical thing that's rarely seen. But everyone knows about it represents a fraternity and sports like, no other. Hey club and a membership. Like, no other and golf tournaments like no other symbol of what is all the best in the game of golf. And I think that's really neat. You know, it's a perfect segue because we bring Curtis Strange into the conversation. If you watch it last night after Tony Bennett won the championship. He asked Jim Nance if Nance could arrange for him to come play Augusta. So the perfect weight I to segue to the masters, which of course is this week. And we've got it for you on ESPN, and our friend Curtis. Strange is with us here. Let's talk about it cortisol conversations begin with tiger at this time of year ago. We were just happy to see him walking eighteen holes. Now, how do you assess his chances of making something special happen this week? Well, this year is a little different than last year. Mike is that we didn't know if he could go four rounds with his body, but he's in good shape. He's injury free. He's playing reasonably well. But in past years with talked about Ken, he put it in the fairway more often than he has if he does that he has had a chance this year. We're talking about can't he make putts. He's fifty four on tour and driving. So he's driving it pretty well. We know this is the second shot golf course. He's a good iron player. But he's really putting quite poorly. He ranks last. Near the last almost every putting category. He's gotta find a way to improve that. So I'll be down there with you later this week. And so for our audience is that what to watch for on Thursday of tiger is putting well would you say that is the single most important indicator of his chances of winning? Well, you can't put too much emphasis on the first round. Remember when he lapped the field when he was so young here in one by so many shots. He shot forty on the front nine. So I'd like to see how he's driving the golf ball his rhythm of the swing. It's the old adage where you can't win on thirsty. But you can certainly lose the trim on thirsty. Let the tournament come to you gain momentum in new game bomb Venema making a couple of putts. All right. Let's talk about then ROY McElroy who just won the players and his obviously playing great and has won all three majors aside from this one. So he's looking to complete the grand slam. What are you seeing in him heading into this week? Well, he's playing well. And he's one of the favorites. It's hard not to pick him as a favourite Cam over Dustin Johnson, Justin Rose, you never know. But Rory when you look back on his record, quite honestly, he's he should have won in two thousand eleven with a four shot lead going into Sunday. But only one other time has he been in the top. Two or three going into Sunday and within three shots of the lead. He's back tend backside top tens two or three times. So he really hasn't played all that. Well over the past years. Let's get to your favorite, then if you had to pick one, and again, we've seen what Las Vegas things who is your favorite to win this year. You know, it's tough. It's every time I'm leaning toward Justin Rose why? Because he's number one of the world. He has no weaknesses. He has such a good even keel attitude on the golf course just beautiful swing two-time runner-up in the last four years all above. But then you go look at the stats of dust to Johnson and ROY McElroy. So I'm saying Justin Rose wins in a playoff over Dustin Johnson. I'll sign for that right now rose over DJ and a playoff sounds awfully good to me super quickly as I looked over some of the notes each of the last four winners at the masters have been first time, major champions. So for looking for someone who's never won a major before it would that lead us to Rickie Fowler, where where would you look there took the words right out of my mouth Rickie Fowler has had a heck of a career only one five times with the way he plays. You think it would have won a few more times than that? But he has such a good record in majors last couple years. He seems like he's on the. Page of the leaderboard every single week. Rickie Fowler is the guy. But let's not forget about Jon Rahm has lot of power to play here this week. Absolutely. I've curtis. It'd be great to see you down there this weekend. Thank you for getting up and doing this for early this morning. And again, the masters is on the way ESPN with enormous. Coverage begins tomorrow with the par. Three contest from Agusta, three o'clock eastern on ESPN. You could watch it on the ESPN app. Ticket watch from work or wherever you may be a coverage of the masters begins internist tomorrow, we will take a short time out. Huge. Our coming out on get up. The Lakers close out a very disappointing season. Tonight changes are coming, but we'll be LeBron's next coach when he's got answers as we continue. It's on ESPN.

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"They partner up shin. But I'm Mike well by Tony naked Russian, man. Tried to board a flight claiming nudity makes him more aero dynamic. Tony Kornheiser wise, everyone reporting that I'm Russian there's no collusion here. People. I am more aero dynamic wilpon tell the people how you know that I am more aerodynamic because you did not drop like a stone. After you taking those pills, we flew to Atlanta Friday, by the way, you know, a lot of us call you behind your back Sergei. I'm just saying you might not know never we do. How was I on the flight? How was good minimum of drugs. No, screaming crying. I the cockpit. I shouted. Why don't you mazing? No, you can't mixed that with pills. Boys and girls in today's episode. The Sweet Sixteen is set wrong for tires and the NFL we considered the onside kick, but we begin today with the great escape of dukes. Overall, number one seeded team from the clutches of central Florida yesterday. This is so far the greatest game of the tournament and central Florida was just one slightly over spinning tip in away from recording one of the great NCAA upsets ever done, do you. Now think more or less of Duke after this game. I don't think more don't think less. I think more of Zion Wilson. 'cause I mean that he is. He is a man the plays. He made were NBA plays at the end of that game. Will you get yourself to the line or score? Yeah. He did them. Both Tony I think more of Williamson I think he likes to be coached which I wish certain other superstars in the NBA right now with take that attitude of gotten it somewhere loving to be coached hard because he does. But I. My thoughts. Johnny doctrines, I covered the and a lot of do games. Johnny Dhaka's from Washington DC where we live. I'm not I'm always lights only adult life. And then some I felt for him. He helped put Misha shefty on the map. Yeah. Dupuis considering getting rid of my chef ski early on his career when he hadn't done much yet. He and Alary and Bilas Tommy anchor they are like, Mike. She chefs case sons. Yes. And so people say, well, why was his emotional 'cause he beat his kid in a game believes his own son who coast for him on that business system deserve to win more than he did. I care more about that than I care about the actual result. So I'm going to deal with the actual results since you did not and everything I everything you said, I agree with that. They love each other. You could tell they loved each other in the post game in the rates. I did no question about that. I think more of Duke, and I want to be very clear about this. I think more of Duke than I did before because they won that game. There was every reason for them not to win that. Game zion. Williamson manage to foul the big fill out. Okay. On a play. That was absolutely necessary are managed to get an offensive rebound and put it back in someone wins and someone loses and they won. We have you. And I covered twenty five thirty of these things together. And in most cases, Mike the team that ends up winning the tournament has one very scary one very close game. I think this was dupes game. I I'm not saying that I always pick them to win. I'm not saying this propels them. But I'm saying that by winning that game. I now do think more of them Tony understand why you would think more in terms of people talk about character and will a bunch of stuff they use you have no idea about and I could see all those things coming through and Duke evolving with these young kids, they weren't two weeks ago. I'll give you all that. Ziya wins. The other guys chipped in just plays when they needed him. But man, fifty they weren't cya Williams. Make those plays in BA place. It'd be a place on physical took the punishment got the ball rim. I'm impressed with him. Even more tell near some teams had a lot easier. First week in the Duke for junior, Tennessee, even North Carolina all had anxious moments and at least one game top seed in the west Gonzaga and third seed in the mid west Houston or mung of fuel teams that enjoyed back-to-back blowouts. So Tony which team has been the most impressive so far to you. Okay. So I am right. Where I wanna be in this tournament. I said repeatedly on this show that I only thought they were five or six teams that could win it. I said repeatedly I thought we were gonna see very chalky tournament. This is what we have. So far the five named repeatedly were Duke Virginia North Carolina Michigan state in Michigan. I am now going to add a six and that has gone zag. I it is very possible that I actually underrated guns. Zag? I know they didn't have to play great teams in his twin? But they look like a very very good team right now, there's one other team that I will mention and I'll bring up a phone call that you and I had that. I'm very impressed with at least over the last three quarters or three halves, and that's for Jinya because it looked like they were going out to Gardner Webb and had they gone out. What you said to me on the phone was look, I love Tony Bennett. They got a fire the coach they got to suspend the program this motion Marable that and one I'm glad it didn't happen, obviously. Yeah. It was overly emotional. But Tony the number of people saying that to each other and others to themselves is insane. Because yes, it would have been a loss of such painful nature. You can't stand it. Okay. So it didn't happen good. Tony Bennett NAT team. I think a right back on track. Now to I think that I think the genius better off having one. When that first game that way, Michigan state is you know, who I have winning and do those t-. Are all impressive. Tony. There's no Cinderella. And you needed. A Cinderella central Florida would have been that team that that tipping goes through for young dockets, the Tony how about Oregon. I mean, we're going to mention Oregon here organs a big conference school that has had success in recent final four team. We just ignoring them. Do they have no extra? Peo no no might. Here's what has happened in this torn amount. People put their big boy pants on in the sixteen that are left. You have fourteen teams, including Oregon from power five conferences, you have guns zag, which is a traditional power of recent number one seeded team and you have used in which one league. There was a four bid league. You've got real teams in here at this point, which there no oil was you don't see this all the time. I'm convinced that the best teams are now in this now to me, it becomes a slug fest this Friday Thursday and Friday, great. But that stuff off the table. Now, it's off to me. I don't disagree with any of that to me the tournament is not as appealing when you don't have it when you have on with it. I'm gonna be a right with it. But you're not gonna tell me that most people don't like to have a Cinderella when they check into this. But my couple of times four number ones. Four number twos. Four number three cents already guy. Mr. New York yet have big power teams like syndrome. Sorry. I'm sorry. The last Cinderella was from Chicago. Okay. Then you're team's there now from small stopped with this rob gronkowski. Just twenty nine years old announced his retirement yesterday on Instagram with just enough grammatical mistakes to persuade you that he wrote it himself. There is talk of him going into acting. There's talk of him going into wrestling will do you think this retirement will stick, and how will you remember gronk as a player he's going to go into huddle? He'll go into somebody else's huddle. He said or drew Rosenhaus all has already said Brady calls him is not Brady's call that will determine whether he goes into England. It'll be Bill Bill chicks call but somebody's going to call them. I don't believe retirements gonna stick at all. I believe grunt will be in somebody's huddle by mid October doesn't want to do this. I know he's been beat up. If you wanted to stick with it. I would applaud them I'd like to hug him. The guy is a first team. Hall of Famer first ballot hall of Famer, Tony I don't believe this is going to stick. That can't believe you do either when he is healthy in the last five or six or seven years. Here's the best position player in all of football. He's absolutely first. Ballot all Famer I just want to read you some of his numbers on big games. Just big games. Mike playoff games. He played sixteen games that say full NFL season. Eighty one catches one thousand one hundred sixty three yards twelve touch us. Put his Fenian on twelve times set, Jerry Rice, Jerry Rice number. Okay. Jerry Rice's first. He's second. Jerry Rice had Twenty-nine playoff games, head sixteen playoff games. So he's in the hall of fame. Do I think that this will stick? I disagree with you on this one part. I don't think Bella chick will ever call. I think Brady my said Bella checks, not gonna call my summer L. I don't think he's going to go. I think if he goes back to go back to the patriots Brady's gotta look at Eshelman and gronkowski and realized that if he loses both of them. Them. Those are his main guys. It would not surprise me. Brady, call the wouldn't surprise me if gone cow ski went back, but I I don't think Bill. I'm not gonna call nobility going. No Brady will persuade saris collie the call. Well, I I'm not sure he's going to be back. He's got a great brand. I think he gives it a couple years to see if he can become the rock something like that. I think that's possible if twin on he has the rock, oh, need pro football. I'll tell you that twenty nine years old just he's just twenty nine. He's got that appears got the rocks appeal on the buck that he might he can be a side kick to this kind of. A lot of beefcake. There's other NFL news breaking here in the desert. Tony, and I'm wondering if members of the competition committee of the NFL suffered collective sunstroke. The Denver Broncos officially proposing subsitute strategy to the onside kick consisting of a fourth and fifteen play from one's own thirty five yard line. It could only be employed once a game and only in the fourth quarter and the committee supports the Broncos proposal by seven to one vote only the giants John Mero dissented saying, quote, what a we the arena football league close, quote, a mini John Mara. Tony, please you want any part of this junk absolute shout out to John Mara fabulous quotes of that about that. Yeah. I'm going to go the other way from you. I I actually like this. And there are two reasons. I like it one is because I think it's an exciting play, and it sort of conjures up ally manning David Tyree or something like that. If you can make that happen. More importantly, I really do like the onside. Which is you can still employ it anytime, you want to employ it. But the defense is so good now that it only works seven point five percents because they changed the rule is that Kazuki is there any better to me back to the old rules alternative that I like, and I and I'll pose the question for you this way, let's say you have Tom Brady. Let's say you have Aaron Rodgers let's say you have Padma Mahomes. Let's say you have the mar- Jackson, and you're facing this fourth and fifteen play. Do you really wanna see a kicker dribble? The ball a few times or do you wanna let your quarterback see what he can do in a must win situation. Maybe he can draw penalty a holding penalty of pass interference penalty to give all they're going to reward. Every guy you just said except Lamar Jackson. Why he run olden boys? They're going to reward them. With that junk, Tony this is manufactured junk happened in basketball your head would explode if they put some fraudulent rule. Land to try to increase scoring trying to give a distinctive vantage to certain players. And John mirror is all I want to have one thing to say to you the great revolution in basketball. The sport you love the most came from the not the NBA. It was forty years. This is a great innovation that is already being employed. I believe by the ass. And I think this is good. Let's say everything you need coming up. John moran. He's out of the tournament. But Titi making case to be the number one overall pick turn it would be better. He was in other hurricanes pushing celebrations too, far I liked this idea forth and fifteen one and done. I wanna see just wanna see golden boy quarterbacks on the field. All you care about. You don't care about the game anymore when Marge interruption as to you by Mercedes Benz, the best or nothing and the new Wendy's Vicky bag, price and participation may vary. Male time where we give you eight plus answers to be minus questions. Let me get on. Listen, get tired of you question. Their questions did John Moran. Make a case to be the top overall pick. No, no, no, one who is going to get that big likes of the Knicks, and Cleveland and the bulls and Phoenix nobody who does that for living is not gonna take Winston. So let's go onto the next thing. Okay. Is this kid John Moran? I've been telling you about this number is number two pick. I think in many situations. He will be Tony maybe not saying the Lanta. They got trae young last year. They got a primary ball handler. Maybe not Dallas because they too have a primary ball handler for next ten years. Everybody else. John ram that triple double the way he played the composure he was tough to make a deep run. But that kid proved himself beyond a shadow of a doubt to me. See I think he's going to be a very good probe would Florida state did to him is in. Truck that they took away all of the passing lanes, and then he shot eight for twenty one and his team lost by twenty eight point. So there is a way to defend them. And this is Florida state with college kids. This is not necessarily the NBA. I don't think rose, by the way was John Munro plan we in beyond like he will. I don't think it hurt himself. But I don't think he elevated himself in that game. Like he did in the first second, lower, all joh- Moran. Should the Celtics be more concerned than they are letting on? I was I think they are more concerned Tony all bone. There's certain team having lost four straight. They know look like they're ready for the postseason whatsoever. San Antonio went into the Gaden and took them apart. I mean, a games Dave loss recently. And I know like kyri Irving to watch his monologue every night. That's become must see TV in NBA to see what car is going gonna talk about. But they ought to be worried. Yes, if they're not. Not worried. They're completely stupid because they've lost four in a row, and they're going the wrong way, and Kyrie irvings monologues reveal him to be every single night more and more miserable about something that team might looks. Now, he is criticizing the coach that team looks like there's something systemically wrong that team looks like they are not enjoying each other's company. They're going to be in the playoffs. And if you win two series fine. Then everything is all right. But if you look at them right now, they look like a team that is saying what are we doing here? What's going year ago today? I thought the Celtics were going to the NBA finals they should've beaten Cleveland LeBron get there. And now, you're right. The wrong way should the Mets. Listen to Noah Syndergaard and give Jacob degrom a new deal right now. It doesn't involve listening to Noah Syndergaard, Noah Syndergaard makes great pace. He talks about the trend now of all of these so many pitchers, Tony. Being extended being given new deals, and so it's Chris sale is a case in point of that. And certainly he's got the credentials to do this. Although he is under contract for nineteen and twenty about seventeen or eighteen million dollars, and the mess will have to Jack. But I think it would be if he's going to be your franchise guy. It wouldn't be such a bad idea to extend them with it. I'm sure they want to Graham, and I'm sure they want Syndergaard sale is heading into free agency after this year. And as you say the Mets have the grown for two more years, if they don't do it right now, there's no urgency now, they can do it in in a month and six might have urges. He would beat a wrap this guy making happy if he just saw young on them for six to eight more years making up he'll be happy. But it's nice it. Syndergaard came out for his it was for his teammates. The Carolina Hurricanes go too far with their latest victory celebration. Now, you know what I was even aware necessarily the Carolina Hurricanes. And their celebrations. But this one coming in the hotbed to Carolina is recognized players. They set up plays guy setting the screen. Somebody's jumping off of skates down to do let the other team is on the ice that I can see nobody is riven by face in. It is not like an end zone celebration. I'm fine with what about you? Okay. The reason the other team isn't on the ice because the game is over they point. They do this at home games when they win they start with that Viking clap. And then they do some sort of sports choreography, they do it for free. And they do it to entertain fans at the moment. The only person in the world is against it is Don cherry now, if you wanna line yourself with on jesse's you Don chair he's in the business of being Dongcheng. But to me, this is a delightful thing that they do that they work on. And I I can't fathom the criticism for their pay cuts. Tony they're going to be a playoff team. Yeah. Kid one last break, but still to come Johnny Manziel. You boy makes us spirit debut in the. You're only one you keep talking about it you keep doing it. And could Jason Kidd be the next coach of the Laker where he was fired by Milwaukee. Right. Most recently. Yes. And major up James to you by Geico, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Happy time people have the fifty four for Avery Johnson. Not a particularly happy day since Johnson was just fired as basketball coach at Alabama in four seasons. Johnson was seventy five and sixty two in Alabama. I know only made the tournament once and that was last year, but Colin sex and walked out after one and done and bama's of football school. How can seventy five and sixty to be so terrible. You fire the head coach. Avery Alabama just lost at home in the IT to Norfolk state. How do you explain it? You should get rid of a happy birthday. Matthew wilpon? Don't you're getting for your birthday nothing. Happy anniversary David Thomson on this day forty five years ago, yet twenty one points flee North Carolina State to a national championship over Marquette, North Carolina State had great geographical draw. They played the region on their home court in Raleigh. And then he played the final four in Greensboro. They never left North Carolina. The big win was over UCLA in the national semifinals and on that court two of the best five college basketball players of all time. David Thomson and Bill Walton league roof Lew Alcindor Magic Johnson Pete mayor Vic do pretty well three. I like those three throwing Leitner baby to rails to a win for the raptors to run up to with three point one sec. Let's go when Charlotte inbound of the ball to Jeremy lamb who started out going the wrong way. Then after mid course, correct? Shen lamb threw up shot from past half court forty eight feet out. Of course, it banked in as the buzzer sounded in Charlotte one this game. It is not the greatest buzzer beater of all time because it's not a final or playoff or tournament game. But it's in the conversation now is just sheer fun. We don't need to rank that with the other place on your right that other shots have had greater consequence. This shift fun, very generous to match you to give him absolutely nothing. Not got two hundred eighty two rouse says Jason Kidd will be among the serious coaching candidates for the Lakers that makes sense. So it gets it makes sense. He's been a coach with some success. You know, I think there's gonna be some Laker family guys involved in that consideration. Don't you? Johnny Manziel made his debut three for five forty eight yards to Russia's the twenty. I'm sure you're impress. It's pretty good. It's a lot better than Sanchez new this year the patches in the bears who play on the Thursday NFL opener. Not the patriots that a right with you. Yeah. I mean people that everybody wants to patriots all the time bears Packers in they're like nine hundred game. Yes. Knicks loss of sixty there. Sixty of good job by your people. They're either they Zion. Williamson or the Lakers consign wings tanking for that last one women's tournament. Eighth-seeded Cal and number one overall seed Baylor snow in the lose at home notes forty trying to better the next time. And I'm only Kornheiser Mike will bonds Saint knucklehead you can get the podcast on the app, apple podcasts. Byron Scott, Tony. That's my nominee for the next Lakers. Coach by I'm glad Delta Airlines.

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Top 10 Countdown: Reigning champion Virginia will have some new faces but still checks in at No. 4

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Top 10 Countdown: Reigning champion Virginia will have some new faces but still checks in at No. 4

"Skirt tuesday november. Seventeen th two thousand twenty. Welcome back to the cbs sports. I on college basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss campbell fighting a leaky black matt. Norlander is here with being today. We are continuing our series of episodes dedicated to the schools ranked in the top ten of my top twenty five and one. We're up to number four and number four is for genu- the reigning national champion. Oddly enough kevin. There's returning three started from a team that closed the regular season with eight consecutive victories. Thanks largely to defense that ranked first nationally inefficiency efficiency and they are adding a big time. Transfer in the form of sam houser. He averaged fifteen point seven rebounds two seasons ago at marquette he could be for genius best player this season. What's to like about tony bennett team. What are the concerns. We'll get into it momentarily the first check this out. Welcome to the nothing. Personal with david. 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Not only that we'll be welcoming in some of the best in the industry to try and figure out what was real and what wasn't from the abbreviated sixty game season. Listen tuesdays and thursdays on apple. Podcasts spotify stitcher and wherever else. Podcasts are found so again today. We're focusing on virginia the reigning national champions because we didn't have national champion in two thousand and twenty. They finished twenty three and seven last season but doesn't really tell the whole story. They started four and four in the acc but went eleven and one in the final two games to finish fifteen and five in the league norlander. You also have in the top five of your one two three fifty seven ranking so. We're on the same page here. I know why. I'm high on the cavaliers. Why are you high on the cavaliers right now. Just couldn't be higher on the couch. I guess technically i could be we. We both technically could be higher on the cavaliers and we are but we are pretty high on them and this is as i wrote in the one to three fifty seven. This is where virginia is as a program. Tony bennett has this program operating on an almost annual basis to be in the top ten in borderline even top five in this season. We do think it is top five. I expect sam. Hauser who was a wonderful compliment to marcus howard to step into and this is a projection for me. I think that he is actually going to be the rare player that steps into tony. Bennett's offense and truly pops think is going to be a seventeen eighteen point Night kinda guy. And that's that's way easier said than done given the offense that virginia runs. We've hit on plenty of podcasts. Leading up to this one about. How virginia was just brutal by its own standards which are lower than most other power conference programs from an offensive efficiency standpoint but not this season. It is interesting to see. That virginia is sixteen camp and the preseason the projection. Broadly is that they'll have the best defense. And then seventy six heading into the season on offense for the for the who's going into this season. I'm excited to see virginia. Play everything again knocking on wood. If everything can remain as scheduled. I'll see virginia. Play against florida at mohegan sun next week. They're in a neutral site game in virginia. The better but that should be a good one. Sam houses the biggest reason. Real quick before Before throwback to you key clark. I don't think that he's disrespected. The maybe this is going to be the season where people really i mean. He's known for having a heads up. Play in a huge moment to keep virginia's championship season alive He's he's a five nine water bug. But i think that he'll start to rightfully get his respect. Hell have a big year jay huff. I think we'll get better. He wasn't as better last season. I thought he would be. And then i think casey more cell is actually going to be the break-up player in the acc. I think it can be a top. Ten defender can start to hit from beyond the three point. Line that will make the offense even more dynamic. So that's just an initial scan of what i think sets up as definitively the best roster in the acc you mentioned this is where twenty minutes program is right now They finished in the top ten. It can comment five of the past eight seasons and it didn't include last season when they forty second number one defensive efficiency two hundred thirty four in offense efficiency that was worse by the way worst among all power five teams. They could not score and yet they still closed. The regular season with eight consecutive wins go eleven and one in their final twelve because they were so awesome on the defensive into the court they ended up going four and two against top ten teams last season. They finished sixteenth in the people. So that forty second at kim palm like. I'm not arguing with the numbers. But they were a much better team than that by the end of the season. Tony bennett has actually said that. By the end of the season we thought we could beat anybody now acknowledges we could also lose to almost anybody you know scoring thirty eight points a game. He didn't say that part. But i. That's clearly what he meant but he played really well and would have been a a hard out for anybody in the tournament. Earn but one of the issues on the offensive in and there are a lot of them but one of them was three point shooting. you know they. They shut thirty point. Three percent from beyond the arc last season that ranked three hundred eleventh in the country. And so sam. How are is going to be impactful for a lot of different reasons but he fixes that or at least improves that immediately. This is the guy who shot forty five point three percent from three as a freshman forty eight point seven percent from three sophomore more forty point two percent as a junior while taking six point four three pointers per game. This is a high volume reliable. Three point threat and so just by adding him to the starting lineup in theory. At least you become a significantly better three point shooting team. I'll put it this way. How do you become a three point shooting team. You have better three point shooters taking three pointers for genius. Going to have that this season they are and i will qualify this by saying we are banking on hauser. Being just a a high impact player obviously sat out last season and now he steps in for his one and only season he's a redshirt senior With the law. Who's now if you wanna look at. What bennett has been able to do. Gp referenced the the finishes and ken palmyre just just you know abroad. Look fifteen thousand feet above. What virginia has become here why. I think it's reasonable to presume that this is going to be the best team in the acc and we'll be a top ten team again. He gets there and twenty nine two thousand nine two thousand ten fifteen sixteen wins and since then twenty two twenty three thirty thirty twenty nine twenty three thirty one thirty five national championship and then twenty. Three and a season cut short. Last season could have been easily at least twenty five wins yet again there. It's just a reliability year over year and this is a program as you'll see when it's revealed that virginia's somewhere tucked inside the twenty six to fifty range of my ranking of the all time greatest programs and college hoops history. Bennett has been responsible for bringing virginia To prominence as of late but historically this is not a top forty program from a statistical standpoint. I mean we're talking about a program that went got a once in twenty fourteen then a two seat than a one seed had five and twenty seventeen than had the one when it fell to you. Nbc was a once. he wouldn't want it all. I think it set up again because of the defense and i wonder any coach will tell you that if you have a team that is reliable. Truly reliable on defense wants to play. Defense has the athletes in length. That is just gps. It's more of something that you can rest on than offense with no fans or almost no fans and just about every venue. That virginia will likely play during the regular season. I wonder if that helps them. All the more you know like they're gonna play at home against michigan state and yeah they won't and that's scheduled for the acc big ten challenge on december nine. So yeah they won't have the the gp j. crowd there with them but when they have to play on the road or in these neutral court environments specifically to start the season. I don't know. I just think that is another built in advantage in. What's going to be such an uncertain season. That i think it will actually help virginia. If you're a home team and you don't have your crowd to boost you against what can just feel like running into a wall possession after possession and they slog you down sixty five sixty six possessions in a game. It's all the more reason why virginia should be considered a top five team by pretty much. Anyone that's not a computer campos's not as high but if we're trying to objectively project how they're going to do i think that's a fair estimation they lead the nation in scoring defense for the third straight season last season only allowing fifty two point four points per game some of that is tempo but yes. They are awesome on the defensive end. Let me ask you this. We talked a lot about what they're adding. What the bring back ever talked about. Mumady de akita and braxton keys to the top three scores from last season's team but i'm not worried about what they must have. The offensive in those are also athletic. High level defenders. Does that concern you at all. Or do you trust trust you could take basically unified guys in the world. Give him the tony bennett. Let me work with them. And they ended up like crazy so those are legitimate losses specifically defensively De key i think was a little bit of a little little bit of an underperformer last season. From what. I think he would have expected himself to be there Braxton key was just a solid Role player plus kinda guy Four twenty minutes. A losing them does mean something. They were both six eight six nine good links Good athletes good strength there. I think i m you you question. Like cody statman. Who's now a junior. Is he going to step been. He was second on the third on the team block rate a season ago. You didn't play a ton of minutes. So him coming again. I do think it's gonna be a guy that steps in plays significantly well on both ends of the floor. There's a freshman name cayden. Shed rick or she'd rick i can't. I don't know how you pronounce last name. He sat out last season. I saw him in vegas When he was on the recruiting trail and he was he was surprisingly good for the for the lack of buzz. He was getting and he was just one of those guys. We see him every year when we're able to go out and do this kind of thing where it's not it's a five star kind of guy but someone that when you watch you say whoa like you know who's who's recruiting this this kid here. He wanted to go into virginia. I wonder how much burn. He's going to get he six eleven and he could step in and really be a good teammate slash under study to jay huff not the same kind of players half and and just one more thing. I'll have generally wants to be a stretch. Four stretch five. I think that he has to be a lot better than what he was. Last season i was pretty gung ho on huff becoming a top fifteen player in the acc a season ago and that just straight up wasn't the case there. He's now a senior at the time is now so i think. His improvement is as critical. Virginia's advancements is pretty much anyone else there but on the whole you touched on. Just how reliable bennett is with this. Coaching system and it speaks to his ability. I mean you really do get the sense that yeah i'd takes real investment and he's built up a program in yes throwing the cliche of he's built up a culture there but it's remarkable. And if you talk to other coaches about they bring the guys in they want to bring in but even then like never underestimate just how much of a bear. It is to play against that defense. And that's not going to. It's just not going to change like when they play florida if they can play florida on november twenty seven florida's also going to be a defensively oriented team. I'm straight up. Think that's going to be like a fifty five to fifty one virginia win and that's how they're going to want it and i think that's how they're going to continue to to to keep the keep the leading. Acc once we get into twenty twenty one. When i was talking about the offensive struggles from last season earlier. I mentioned that there were a lot of problems on that end of the court and there were the most obvious. One is three point shooting. We've addressed at the other one. Was they turn the ball. Over a lot. Uncharacteristically a lot of turnover percentage was twenty point one which ranked two hundred and fifty seventh in the country. Was the worst turnover team of the tony. Bennett era and a lot of that was key clark. You'd like him. i like him. He did average three and a half turnovers the game last season though he did nine turnover game against st in a loss and i think they're trying to figure out like what what what happened there. I don't want to speak for tony. But i think maybe he was asked to do a little too much. Always asked okay. Run the team. Take the shots on this team. Take on tough defense assignment like maybe guard. The team's best perimeter player. I mean he's five nine but he gets after. You played thirty thirty seven minutes a game. They enroll a top seventy prospect in the class. Two thousand twenty eight beekman. He's a six three point guard. And i would assume that he is going to lighten the load on key. Clark a little bit like get him a little more risk asking to do not quite as much and because freshman big six three he can obviously backup clark but he could also the erratically. Play with them i think. That makes key clark's job a lot easier because he was you know really the only competent natural point guard on the roster last season. I think you're right. And i think you're hitting in for the virginia hardcore listening. I think they are hoping expecting clark to not have to be a vessel for offense and scoring as much as maybe he would have been tasked with last season. Hey maybe maybe he winds up still trying to accomplish that. But you mentioned beekman and then another freshman debris abdur rahim. Who is the son of sharia doreen he enters in. I think that he's going to get some decent burn as well. I will be interested to see how much bennett trusts. The new faces. And i would include hauser in that just because he wasn't playing last season because there are plenty of new players are going to have to step in and be significant minutes getters. Here we've mentioned we've mentioned plenty of them here so I don't have a real estimation on whether this is going to be virginity and that's really like nine deep closer to seven deep That's going to have to be determined as we go throughout the season and maybe virginia will be affected just like almost every other team when it comes to if it has covert pauses The rhythms of your season every day. When you practice when you can't Will that have an impact on basically how much trust. The coach will wind up having particularly when like bennett and his staff know what they have. They know they have national championship. Contender reminder reigning national champions and they're gonna have a chance to To keep that crown here and have a decent chance of doing it but Not knowing how many games are going to be able to get in. I think is going to have an impact on virginia as much as any other team. We've talked about on this top ten series of little podcast series. We've done in that if you tell a coach. He's only got thirteen games. Fifteen game seventeen games however many it's going to be Fewer games the fear of the opportunities. The more every game means for your resume to get into the instability tournament and less likely you to trust guy. Eight nine and ten on your roster. I feel like virginia when we get to january. Might not be as deep as bennett would hope it would be covert an impact. That one last freshman odebrecht carson mccorkell. He's a top one fifty guard in the class of two thousand and twenty six three shooter. That's his reputation. So i'm not sure how much he's going to be able to get on the court. This season as a true freshman true freshman who borderline popcorn fifty guys. Don't usually play a lot for tony bennett immediately. But if he can't get on the court and he's at least another shooter. Tony bennett might have available. 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04/09: Virginia beats Texas Tech and completes one of the all-time incredible stories in college basketball history

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04/09: Virginia beats Texas Tech and completes one of the all-time incredible stories in college basketball history

"Hey, Jerry, very parents to April ninth two thousand nineteen welcome back to the college basketball podcast, but we sometimes discuss Campbell fighting and leaky black Matt norlander is here with me we both Levin app on Tuesday morning, traveled home. So I'm home now norlander is home. Now, we decided to spend a few minutes looking back on what turned out to be an awesome national championship game. Final score was Virginia. Eighty five Texas Tech seventy seven in overtime game get off to a slow start. But it got great in the second half. Bigshots controversial calls controversial replace an offense of explosion that created a super fun game. I obviously have thoughts on what it means for Tony Bennett for Jinya for college basketball in general. But I watched it on TV from television set norlander you were in the buildings. Let's start with you. Your thoughts on Virginia winning a national title for the first time in school history. Your thoughts on for Jinya becoming the first number one seat delus- to number sixteen seed in two thousand eighteen and then becoming. First time national champion in two thousand nineteen. I have many thoughts the first of which obviously has to be that. I picked this to happen. So. I mean, I don't know to say no to tell you. I pull up the bracket page the expert picks on CBS, sports dot com or CBS sports app. I actually did have I'll tell you what we we're on the same page with this. When we make our picks on selection Sunday, we make them with around really fast. I some years, I'm fine some terrible. But I I never think about the fact that there are people that use those brackets to make their pools. I had I don't even know how many people hit me up and say, thanks. I used your picks one my office pool. Like, I'm glad it happened for you. But Dulles me next year because that's just blind luck. There Virginia's best even college basketball. It wins the national championship that doesn't happen. Every year, of course. But it happens frequently and that was the case this season. Weirdly, though, well, Virginia was in college basketball. Texas Tech was the best team in the tournament. I would say that still the case even in light of its loss against Virginia. When you looked at the six games, Texas Tech played in the six games effort Jimmy played. But this was. A great game. I think a couple of columns that were written, and I won't I won't sub tweet and vocal forum particularly den Walken who you have as a frequent guest on your radio show and Pete Thamel high believe is your mortal enemy, they wrote that was my enemy. They wrote some they wrote some columns leading up to that game. That got a lot of run that basically were trashing the the game trashing the fact that it was a Texas Tech versus Virginia that you didn't have big star players that, you know, one in Duns weren't involved and all that stuff, whatever like the the family in teasing dams, a great writer, great reporter, a friend and all that. But he used the TS it was generational unsexy. And so I saw I saw the face generational unsexy. Pop into by time-line relatively frequently. As the second half wore on. What was just an incredible championship game championship game that I would rank top ten all time for sure. Maybe not quite top-five. But really, really good. I mean, the fact that we got to OT only the eighth one ever and the first since dosier for the championship, by the way. Did you realize that happy and ship? No, we're headed to overtime. That's right. I and so way, Kansas and Memphis. The game itself first of all highest-scoring title game in nineteen years. So the defense is actually played relatively well. And yet you have the highest scoring title game since two thousand you have the first ever title game. This actually prize me first title game in history were both teams made at least ten three pointers Virginia. Flawless from the line down the stretch. Deandra hunter starts out slow again somehow winds up with a game high career high twenty seven points. And then it was actually voted hunter for most outstanding player. But Kyle guy got the mop. It was close. I thought that between those two and then tied Rome who had a few a couple of huge buckets. I thought collectively it was probably their best game of the season. And I think that's no coincidence. Esso's three played that. Well, and it leads to to Virginia win. I know there's a few things that we need to get into specifically in terms of you know, plays late and it cetera et cetera. But. I guess I'll leave it. There of 'em Goetze some of the stuff after the game in a minute here. But yeah, just awesome stuff. Great environment. Text second fans in the building. But Virginia came strong. There's no doubt about it. Dick bennett. Tony's father wasn't a building. And that was that was really good. So GP just caused basketball is developing a fun habit of having really good national championship games on both sides, men's and women's immense side in particular. I wanna say like six of the past eight have been good degree to downright epic. And this I think this fall short of epic like Jenkins winning at the buzzer and two thousand sixteen that's that's a classic. But, but I you know, I I can't ask for more than what we got. And I think it's fair to say that the game exceeded everyone's expectations even people like me who expect an you. That thought it was going to be a good entertaining game. We didn't think it was possibly going to be on that level. First things. First let the record show Pete them was not my enemy. Pete them was actually my friend trivia time. Do you know that when I got hired CBS in two. Thousand six there were four of us that interviewed for the job. I won't name the other two because the other two obviously weren't involved at the end. But I was one of the people and Pete them was another. And if I remember correctly, I think the job was offered to Pete I he was at the New York Times, and he'd if I remember correctly, he decided to stay at the New York Times at which point they offered me the job. So if not for Pete them turning down the job, we might not even be talking right now, we might not I might be doing a podcast with famil- podcast with beat them. All right now, by the way, my apologies to Pete. He organizes the media pickup game every year at the final four. It is a great time CBS sports shoe duties kept me away. I hope the schedule allow me to make my grand return Atlanta in twenty twenty but continue so yeah, I thought it would be a close game. I thought it could be an interesting game. I did not think it would get into the eighties. I can go back and listen to the last pockets, I didn't think anybody. Into the sixties. And I think you are on that same page with me and boy with the way the game started. We were we were looking smart for at least ten minutes and basically twenty because every everything that critics of the matchup thought, it might be in terms of an offensive disaster. I two minutes of the game it it was exactly that like how long was it before Texas Tech even gotta fill. Kgo eight minutes yet. It was a long time. And they didn't even get a two point field goal. Perish till what like. Nine minutes left in the first half off threes and foul shots for a while there for them. And then and then obviously after halftime got going, and I really do. I thought the second half was just awesome. And it was big shot after big shot on both in de'andre hunter more than anybody else. So he gets twenty two points in the second half finishes with twenty seven, and you mentioned him walk in from USA today earlier, you know, his column post game was broke down in a pretty simple way. Like, you know, we can talk about replay. We can talk about miss calls. We can talk about cow guy. Getting tripped by one of his teammates and Texas Tech and called for a file, but ultimately, it might have just come down to this. These are two comparable teams both of them have a lottery pick and for Gina's lottery. Pick was awesome. And Texas Tech's lottery pit was not Jarrett Kover, whereas the under hundred gets twenty seven points twenty two in the second half chair Kover goes five. Twenty two from the field. Oh of six from three point range in hundred gave it to them at one and then shut him down at the other. And if if if that's the reason you wanted to vote the Andrea hundred the most outstanding player the final four it certainly fine. With me. I think you could make a case for for for Cal. But but but hunter was terrific in the championship game these star of the championship game. And if you were an MBA general manager trying to figure out whether you're going to draft a Jarrett Kover or de'andre hunter if you're picking fourth or fifth or sixth or wherever I don't guess you base it on one game. But if you did base it on one game, you're taking the honor every time you are Francis. Shila called this by the way, happened to see him walking to my seat just sorely before the game started, and I just ask real quick hundred versus Culver, you know, in this game. And also draft wise like who do you prefer? He said hunter in both regards, and he didn't he wasn't. He thinks that this realm. Close. But the hundred was was better set up to succeed in this game and expects to be taken before Culver in the draft and friend looked right in wake of that hunter just pick the best time to have his best game. And he you know, he started slow and the rest of the team picked up around him, which is what kind of Virginia's MO the entire season. Like, they have never really lagged. Even even when they played do earlier in the season. You know, when I said the best team is going to win the national championship on Twitter. There was you know, people just like, no Duke actually lost. Now Duke was the best team getting even rate as the second best team in most metrics and not even the third at camp. It was fourth. So if your opinions at Duke was the best in college basketball this season. We'll that opinions wrong. I don't know what to tell you Virginia barely lost on the road against Duke. And then it happened run up against Duke. And what was the strongest game the blue devils played the entire season. And the only other loss was against Florida state, which might have been their worst before. Silence of the season in the tournament there. But just three losses Virginia, by the way from deficiency. Margin standpoint is the third best team in the Ken palm era, the they comfortably finished as the best. Even college basketball. I thought that was that was fitting and also just with hundred applicable to start and guy coming up with some big shots tied Jerome reliable as ever there. And then he kinda took a back seat to those other two guys down the stretch. I just love that. We got a great title game. A great final four a great elite eight a really good Sweet Sixteen just fantastic finish here on the back end for the tournament after the week one after the first weekend wind up being a lot of shock and not a lot of drama there. But. Tony Bennett in in getting this guy to win within the industry already regarded as a top ten coach. If you need a title to like make it official. I guess then fine. Now, it is. He. I mean, he handled the loss last year to you in BC better than I think any coach could have possibly handled it, and this is the redemption ark. This isn't incredible story. We've actually had an interesting pattern developed because have also seen some stuff about like. Yeah. But you know, what like North Carolina lost at the buzzer to Villanova and came back the next year and won the title. Like that's just as good. I would disagree. It's an awesome story. But for Jinya is not the program that North Carolina is North Carolina had won many previous national championships in Virginia took a loss. That was way worse. You can argue the level of heartbreak, I guess, but college basketball is actually seen to redemption story sandwich by Villanova national championship. So perhaps Nova wins again next year, and then two years from now, we'll get another really cool store to to blossom out of that. But I'm totally fine with that. If we want to get these awesome kind of arcs building with ACC programs or otherwise that's fine by me on the not see programs here GP. This is. The first non Duke, non Carolina ACC champion since Maryland and oa-to. And if you don't want to include that because I mean, you should include it because Maryland was an ACC program when it won the title. But if you want to eliminate that and say Maryland's now since it's in the big ten it doesn't qualify, then we gotta be looking at NC state and eighty three I believe. If you include current ACC schools, you get Louisville you get Syracuse. Right. So if you want to make it go both ways. But if you yeah. Yeah, fair. Yeah. Yeah. There's two ways to look at this. I think from a big picture perspective. One is. Wow. You and it'd be one thing like if you lost to a sixteen and in that team all entered the draft away teams that are overall number one seed, sometimes do and you come back the next year with a mostly different guys do it. It would still be unbelievable. But you wouldn't have the opportunity to contrast Tiga Rome, then against hydro now cow guy then against Cal guy. Now to me. That's what's I don't know about most interesting, but very interesting about this is that they were embarrassed. And heartbroken. I don't wanna get hyperbolic. But you know, we had tiger parents on set with us yesterday Monday afternoon before the game. And you know, they they explain that, you know, the way the season ended last year they e- stayed up with tie till two in the morning. Consoling holding their crying adult son because he couldn't believe that just happened that he was a part of that. And for him to go from that night. That's the way your season last season. This is the way your season into this season. Like, we've talked about many times, that's a that's a great documentary. It's a great movie I'll be shocked if somebody who doesn't make it into a documentary, and or a movie so just a tremendous story. And then the other way to look at it is. Jinya was down on the scoreboard in the final fifteen seconds of three consecutive game again. Yes. Yes. Yes. Was it ten? No. I'm saying again. Yes. It's just. Yeah. But continue in the elite eight final four national championship. Gained their down on the scoreboard, three consecutive games it with fifteen seconds to go. And really if you count the elite eight in as we talked about on the last podcast. I believe delete him the final four game. They were literally down in the final second. Like if you if you Paul's the game when the clock was at zero point nine and said, okay now, what's the score? They were losing inside the final second against Purdue and against Auburn because I think yeah. Throws come with point six and decay to mommy, Deke Tae shot is it's it's at the buzzer. Right. So they were down. I mean think about that per second. You're you're behind on the scoreboard with less than a second to play. Literally all I've been thinking about for twenty four hours thing. So you win the Purdue game then you win the Auburn game. And then. Yeah. You you're not down in the final second. But you're down to the final fifteen, and you need de'andre hunter or anybody to to make a three pointer against the best defensive team in the country. You got a score against the best defensive team in the country that nobody's been able to score on in this like that's what you're up against. Hey, fifteen seconds left your down three. And if you want to extend this game you better school right now against the best defensive team in the country. Good luck. And they did it and that possession will just haunt crispier forever. Because I don't know if you were in the post game last night, but we cared it live on CBS sports network and somebody asked him about fouling up three. And I think that's obvious to any basketball person. It's too early to fill up three. Yeah. I think I think the consensus among coaches is that right around seven seconds, six seconds. That's when you up three if you're committed a failing three, but anything bigger than that. You just you're you're dragging out a game, you're extending a game. It's not it might not work in your favor. It might it's not the smart thing to do at twelve seconds. But it is a smart thing to do at six seconds. So it was just too early to Phalle up three. So if you're somebody screaming, why didn't they follow up three? The answer is simple. It's too early to do that. But what Chris somebody called him screaming on the possession? His players was notary. Yes. And it's almost like, hey, let them drive if they want to drive to the basket, let them do it. But do not leave shooter to help on a driver. And they just lose the Andre hunter in the corner and he knocks down. And then of course, they've got a chance to go win the game. And it just that didn't go. Well, so the overtime and then what happened happened? But the idea that for Jinya could be trilling in the final second of two two games. And in the final fifteen seconds of the championship game and escape each of those. I don't know whether you call it resiliency or composure, whatever it was it was awesome. And I I don't wanna call it lucky 'cause they had to make the plays each time. But they were fortunate. Honestly, they went from fortunate to be even be in the final four to fortunate to even be in the championship game to fortunate to even win the national championship. But who cares that banner? Still look just like anybody else's championship banner. All right. Let's let's touch on a few quick things here as the game play out. 'cause I as this is happening, by the way. I'm trying to get three hundred and fifty words that I can send at the buzzer to live on the site. So all right. First question, I'll get a few place. But first question for you is this GP, I'll set up my thoughts. So as as regulation is playing out before we get to overtime as regulations playing out. Virginia Virginia for the second consecutive game. Blew a ten point lead in a blue to ten point leads in this game. I never thought because I was actually thinking about the previous two wins. They had and there are still plenty of time in in Virginia's world, they had them write what they wanted them. Did you were you like I never put Texas Tech? It like above say seventy five percent. They were winning the game. I thought they were likely to win the game say five seconds before hunter took the three. But I still thought this thing can still get crazy here. Head. You reached a different conclusion at any point in the in that that moment or the or the minute before that, you know, what like barring something ridiculous, again, we're gonna watch Texas Tech when a national championship. I'll tell you where I thought a while Texas Tech really is going to win this game. It was when they finally took the lead. Like when they go up. I guess it was sixty six sixty five on a covert bucket with thirty five six mazing bucket by the west that was going to be one of the things I mentioned continue. But that that bucket that spin move was awesome. And it let the place on fire when he did that. So when they go up I mean, it's just like they're they're climbing climate and they've been climbing the whole second half and their climate. And then boom y'all there ahead thirty five seconds to play. And then of course, they get a stop. There's a foul. There's two made free throws. So now, they're up three twenty seconds to play. And that's when I did think they're going to win this game. I thought they were gonna win the game right then. And then of course. The hunter hits a three with twelve seconds to go. And then I thought we might be headed to overtime. I didn't rule out like a Matt Mooney three or something like that. But yes, I with thirty five seconds to play really from thirty five seconds to to to to thirteen seconds. I spent that amount of time in real time going Texas Tech is really about to be the national champion. So odiaun she hits both foul shots. He's a sixty six percent shooter from the from the line or something like sixty three percent shooter. When he hit those I thought, okay. This is this is wild. But I still thought that drummer guy we're gonna get a good look. And the I still believe something was going to happen. Now, the tiger own pass to find hunter not like, you know, the most incredible pass ever just extreme headedness. Okay. Let's let's get to the biggest place for Virginia in the tournament. You've got you've got you've got the Clark pass. That's for me. That's that's the biggest decision. That's got to be one. Now, the DEA ki Tae shot itself. Can't be that far behind because it is where you are. When you are get get the ball turnaround. Get it off in time, and you could easily see a play like that. I can I can see it fall in way short of the rim because you're trying. It's a rush it's scramble. So I think like. Akita he's gotten a bit of love for making the bucket. But I actually think that Doreen difficulty on that was higher than people recognize. So I will go that for two I'll say the hunter three it's third because that was a big time shot ties the game on a most critical possession. I say the guy free throws are four. What about the guy three pointer to set up? I know I'm putting it right behind and I mean, really close to guy three pointer on the previous possession, which was action run on the opposite corner there I'd put that five. I'd put Jerome's pass to hunter six because he gets into the thing about the play as he gets into the lane and tech which prided itself on collapsing into the paint he squeezed through. And you're maybe he's he's got such. He's got such great. He's got dapper touch. We saw all in. That national title game. And I think a lot of players would have tried to get the two there, which wouldn't have been the terrible decision, buddy. Trust hunter who was just feeling it. And then he hits the three, but you've got six significant plays. There was nothing. Really? I think in the the organ game was ugly. There were a few things that organ did that I thought were big. But it was not on the UVA side of Virginia fan can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, and then like the first the first two games was more like runs, and they were down early to Gardner Webb and all that. But the point I'm making here's for Jinya has play after play after play. And if if you're looking for us to make a lot about the the call reversal that's going to have to be all GP for two reasons one I obviously had no vantage point to. I'm also trying to file deadline and like preparing for okay, Texas, a win this thing rewrite. So I I don't know if that if that's nearly to the level of the previous game, you obviously were watching through the beauty of television, speak more to how that played out and the expectations when they reverse the call so floors yours. Yeah. Well on on the reversal of the call the rest gotta right? Like if you if you hate what? They did. Then you hate the rule you hit replay. But you can't eat the refs the refs did as they were instructed to do. The ball just ever so slightly went off of finger tips. It just did. And it's not something any official could see in real time without the benefit of replay any other any other situation that doesn't have replay that ball remains Texas Tech's ball it just does. But because of replay in HD in super slow MO you can see the ball go off at the fingertips. So it's gotta be for junior ball. What it reminded me of? If if you're a baseball fan, you know that they now have replay on double place and ten years ago. You didn't have to touch the bag if you were a shortstop four six three double play balls hit your second basement, boom, you slide past the bag make throw to I it's a double play. Well, I don't know if he really touched the back. Nobody cares. If you were in the neighborhood, it's a double play well now because they have implemented replay. If you are. A a centimeter off of the bag that is going to be safe the other place that happens all the time. Still seconds still stirred they hit the bag and then their foot pops up and the third basements gloves stays on or the shortstop's glove stays on them. And when they're they're foot pops up again, a centimeter off the Bank if that gloves on them, they're out. That's not the way baseball's ever been played. If you beat them to the bag. It doesn't matter of your foot comes off the bag by a half inch you're safe. But now if challenged and the super slow MO HD replaces, but look right there foot just slightly off the bag gloves on the leg. He's out. That's. If baseball fans, I don't know if all of them, but lots of our frustrated by that come on. He say his foot barely came off the bag you hit replay, then and if you wanna change it like petition it, but the referee the Pires when they make that call they're getting it, right? And last night Monday night when the officials reverse that when when they when they said, the balls off, Texas, they got it right based on what was what the video actually show if you wanna be frustrated as a Texas Tech fan. It's the foul on Cal guy. That's a killer. Because what that replay shows have you seen this yet? No. I don't believe. I did actually. Okay. So I think the situation is we're in overtime, Texas Tech is up to and it's like it would be foul GP. Do I have this? Right. It's it's cow guy getting fouled near the baseline. Oh is this is this the trip discrepancy? Yeah. They. They call foul on Texas Tech in both Texas Tech players in the vicinity are like what they throw their arms. We didn't touch him. And when you see the replay super slow MO they didn't touch him. He tripped over its teammate. I think it was Di Di Di Kate Dickie day. But it's like there's to Texas Tech players. They're neither touch cow guy. He fell it should have been turnover. And so then Texas Tech's up to with the ball. Instead, it's a foul in Texas Tech. And I don't know if it determined the game change momentum. But it was back haul. It was horrific. So if you're a Texas Tech fan don't be mad at the referee over the replay. Because the referees did is they were distracted to do. But if you wanna be pissed because they screwed that moment up. Yeah. Get you because they screwed that moment. I for sure for sure a few more, and we want to move this podcast long. But I want to hit on a few more things here. First of all, this is the first champion surprising to me I champion since ninety that didn't beat one or two CD when the title of. But whatever for Julia was awesome the season, and they owned every little bit of it. But just the road broke their way twelve of twelve from the line in overtime for Virginia, which I thought was actually fitting because the final margin wasn't Representative. How good the game was. But for Jinya so often it will squeeze and it will suffocate its opponents out. Now, it got some luck along the way, and it didn't need any last-second row IX in OT, but the free throw shooting in overtime was was big in addition to what you just what you just mentioned there, which I thought was was pretty notable overall, Texas Tech crispier d-. Incredible season. I expect me back in a final four as to win. I don't know. We'll see. They came dangerously close. It's it's amazing to me that they got that close that he that we talked about Texas Tech title game. And that they really really came just they were just I can't say enough about how good of a coachie is. And how how by the way how good that team wasn't like on and off the floor like lot lot of fun and to Rico and stepping up the way he did high ankle sprain. Just totally gutted performance. That was fantastic. Just an awesome title game. Really? I I made one China moment. Now, the shove didn't make one shining moment. But I may want China moment wanted to mention that. And by the way, Virginia fans, shouts to you. So we love you. Because one you're watching CBS sports HQ GP. I had like it's interesting the the mindset of the Virginia fan because not just what the UNBC stuff. But I think that they're they've gone through a lot of little brother. Stephan the ACC for a long long time. And I wasn't the only media member. Our our buddy Mark Titus who we of course, we got to see in person in Minneapolis. He was in on the Virginia stuff all season long. But I mean, I had people coming up to me and not just at the gains. But when we were doing HQ, basically saying, thanks for thanks for being behind Virginia all the whole way. So the fans who came up and said, hey, hey, it's appreciated just went with the team that I thought was best. So it's going to be probably someone else next year, although Virginia really they might have case for top-five depending on who comes back. But but they were great got to interview IB, I've got number two in the top twenty one right now. Trying to take take my shine right now. Like, what are you doing? Well, like. Okay. So I had Michigan state one. Yeah. He's done cash. Winston coming back and right now as far as we know all those guys are coming back to Michigan state. I had Michigan too. But now, we know that Iggy birthday is entering the draft and staying in his plans to stay in. So you you lose your leading score. It's got a knock you down a little bit. So I knock them out and that move for Jinya up to number two. And that's even if they also in addition to Deandra hundred lose Taj, Rome, I mean, they still back in theory, cow guy de Akita. Clark will be back Jack king, Jack salt. Yeah. I mean, they bring that good pieces from a championship team. Yeah. No. And we don't we don't have to get too much into this. But like, I could I think the Las Vegas odds came out today and for Gina is the favorite to win the national title. They could win back the back tidal. Okay. Let me let me make real quick. 'cause. You said, you know, if you need a championship to validate top ten status as a coach. What least now Tony been has it? I think top ten's way low. I was asked today I did Bill ridership on CBS sports radio. And he said, where's Tony Bennett rank in terms of best college basketball coaches, and I said, you know, I'll I'll let somebody else rank them. But if you wanna make the case that he's the best it's not our to make the case this guy who's won four of the past six ACC regular season titles. And I swear to God if one of you nerds tweets me GP, there's really not newsy regular season titles. You're a nerd if you're the type of guy who wants to tell somebody who has a job like me that, you know, technically. There are no ACC regular-season your nerd, nobody. You're not in lightning anybody. Nobody thinks you're spart. Nobody thinks you're making a good point. We just think you're nerd across the board your nerd if you want to point out that. Technically, not ACC regular season titles. ACC teams hang banners for them. There are exe- regular-season dials far as I and everybody else in the world except you nurture concern. And Tony Bennett has four the past six if you ask people who's the best coach in college basketball? Most people will say Mike Jesse and that's obviously reasonable answers. Well, maybe the right one Mike zero ACC regular season titles in the past nine years. Tony's got four in the past six he has been a number one seat. I believe three different times. He's now got a national title. And he might want another one next season. I don't know if I would rank Tony number one. But it's very reasonable to a number one trivia time. Okay. Okay. What program has the most wins in the past six seasons in college basketball, Gonzaga? That's right. How did you know at that fast though, because I just thirty game berry. That's correct. Who second? Is for. Yeah. I guess it is not I'll spoil it until you Virginia is fourth. Who'd if you tell offered I'm hanging up, and then we're done with the. It's not I would venture to say Wofford's, not even crack on the top seventy. But anyway, I got I got the six seventeen years one with one ninety four for Jimmy's at one seventy eight who do you think is second who do you think is third. Pest six years. Yeah. I would think. Dukes up there somewhere Duke is fifth at one seventy five. I would think North Carolina's probably up there somewhere. Seventh one seven one. And I thought they would be higher. Is Wichita state up there somewhere not in this list? Very is. I mean. Just missing an obvious. They're all. Yes. They're all obvious Kentucky, obviously Kentucky's third. So you need to and six both obvious. What? Is it Michigan state? No. Parish. What are you doing right now? I'm just I'm just really just naming teams you want to answers the Mets had two on two outs down six three two gums been terrible even teams and trying to see if they could get hit the it's a new era. The baseball has started crossing over vanilla Villanova. I almost said vanilla of vanilla Nova is second with one ninety one campus one seventy three my man. All right before we move on. I got I got a prediction question for you. But I also want to thank Tony Bennett for doing it on court interview with me for HQ that was just a personal career milestone highlight that was awesome. Because this came after one shining moment came after you to answer, you guys have come a long way since he was violent shoving you just a few weeks ago. We have we have indeed come a long way. It was great to talk to his father after the game. And all this all this. Good stuff. A fun note that I couldn't work into my story. Tony Bennett took his daughter. She's taking senior like AP calc or whatever and high school. He took her homework that she actually has to like hand in and started diagramming plays on it like the night before whatever like that. So that's actually turned into like, I asked Tony afterward. If he used any of the plays that he was using their like late in the game. Like, you have the play that they drew up for hunter on that homework. He couldn't say for sure I got a follow up with him on that. But if so that's that becomes like a like a thing that you wanna frame and the Virginia offices if it's actually that. But his daughter action needs to hand in that homework. So a fun little note there, also thanks Eric Bacher who helped get all that stuff done. And then just people who run the NCAA tournament are awesome. Dave Warlock, Dan gavitt amongst many others. They do a fantastic job. And it's not an easy thing to do. Because there is so many media members on the ground lots lots of boots on the ground there. And it's it's always pretty flawless. And and by the way, I didn't catch this on the I do have a question for before move on. But Bennett apparently asking Nance if he can get around in at Augusta to hear this. I that entirely I did not hear that we had to go on set as the game was wrapping up. So we I think we were live on TV when Tony Bennett was talking to gymnast that's a heck of their way at works for contractual reasons is that we had to come on the air at eleven PM central, but we cannot start our actual show and start showing highlights until after one shining moment. Right. Right. We we're just we're just out there talking. We're just out there feeling time until until one tiny moment is over. And then we can boom snap your fingers start the show. So while we're while Nance is talking to Tony we're on TV just like talking to each other about deandre hunters. Shut. Sure was something wasn't it just trying to get to the Janney moment. All right. Here's my question for you. Instead of an over under. So Tony Bennett takes takes him. What twelve thirteen years to get this first national championship and winning the title is extremely hard. So be it. He stays in college for twenty seven more years or he's there two more years. And then goes on to the NBA does Brad Stevens and never returns. We don't know. Okay. So all possibilities are out there. What is your answer for how many titles? Tony Bennett finishes with at the end of his coaching career at the instable level. Finished with two. I agree with you on the money. I think he will get one more. But if you told me if you told me that Tony Bennett who is forty nine years old right now coached until he was seventy. I mean, again, which is not an abnormal thing for a great coach in college basketball. If you told me he was going to be in college basketball, twenty one more years, I would tell you he gets three Nash at least three national championships. But I don't think he's going to. I think he's going to be an NBA coach at some point. Yeah. That's the big wait and see there because of the style that he runs a hill. He will have to you. Can't you can't he coaches in the NBA, but Brad Stevens adjusted. Yeah. And Tony totally by the way, Tony who played in the NBA can absolutely just there's no doubt about that. I would expect the Tony Bennett going to the NBA storyline is specially after winning title here and less. He comes out and publicly says. That is not for me now or in the near future. I think that'll just be something that some scuttle butt to it going forward. But anyway, I know two things one he is intrigued by the NBA. The idea that he'd just be like, I think ROY Williams might be like, I'm a college coach, I'm not going to the ROY Williams might have felt that way forever. I don't know. But like, I I do think there are some guys who just love college basketball, and they would never consider going to be a coach. I don't think don't he's one of those guys. I think I know he is intrigued by the idea of being an MBA coach doesn't mean he's begging to get there or he'll take a bad job. But I know that he if the right situation presented itself. He would he would be very interested in at least seriously considering it, and I also knew this that NBA teams have reached out to him before. I mean, I don't know that this is ever been reported. I know the grizzly tried to talk to him a few years ago, and he just he was like on that coach them of his curtseys. But I know they were at least interested in sitting down with him. And I don't believe you even sit down with them. But I know he's got interested in the NBA. And I know the NBA got interested in him. And eventually, I think they'll be a match that make some sense. All right. So you want to get to the? Few non NC double terminals that are some discussion here as we put a bow on the season. Yeah. 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There are also instances in the past were guys who weren't the first second third fourth or fifth choice have gone to school and wanted being successful. Certainly could be the case here. But. The status of the UCLA job. And what the school is willing to do and willing to commit to. I think I think we'll be interesting there. Healy Cincinnati having gone to the tournament the past nine years only once we sixteen UCLA fans if you are under wellm by this. I guess I don't blame you, but Kronen has operated at a top twenty five level. I would say undeniably over the past seven to nine seasons. And so if you're the UCLA. Athletic department athlete director you need to minimally get a coach at that level. It doesn't reflect well when you have these public swing and misses with Calipari and Rick Barnes, and Jamie Dixon, and the ones behind the scenes, like some bigger names, frankly, Tony Bennett, or you know, I even heard of that, you know, UCLA just because when you are running a search like this you owe it to yourself. You just say Tom Izzo. Are you willing to leave state to to come see what you might be able to do out there for second? Because. No, you shouldn't ask Tom Izzo. It's the dumbest thing in the world to ask Tom Izzo. He's willing to leave Michigan state for UCLA. I always hear every year and to interrupt you or. I'm gonna do both for a second every year. I'll see somebody. Sometimes they're even our friends who will tweet something along the lines of will. You know, you've got at least pick up the phone and call Jay, right? No. What you don't have to pick up the phone and call Jay, right? Why Jay writes, Jay Wright is icon status at Villanova forever? He's a Philly guy. He is not leaving Villanova for your college job. Michigan. Thomas is not leaving Michigan state for your college job. Roy Williams is not leaving North Carolina for your college job. Jim behinds not leaving Syracuse for your college job. Mark fused, not leaving Gonzaga for your college job, Mike. She says he's not leaving Duke for your college job. John calipari. Not leaving Kentucky for your college job. You do not. Oh, it to yourself to pick up the phone 'cause you're wasting your time. You're making yourself look stupid, man. That's like, I hope every athlete can just hear what just write down. What I just said. He got. A phone call to pain don't think we we owe it to our selves to call Tom Izzo. No, you don't you're idiot. If you call I actually made this very I'm this very argument for UCLA with Tony Bennett. I still think that you have to at least try I just think. Happened. But if I didn't put Tony on the list earlier, I'll add him right now. I think I think adding amount quality job your shop. Sucrose. We'll see what happens Cronin works in some ways like he's anti grad transfer, and it's actually worked at Wolfram at Cincinnati. We'll see if it doesn't UCLA UCLA, the the admissions process. There is more difficult than a lot of other spots in major conferences. I think he will do. Well. But I would I would say this to make to his face. I don't know if if you see is now going to rise to a certain status return to a certain status, maybe does. And if it does it's it's great for him for for Mick personally, like this is a huge personal achievement. You go coach at an all-time blue blueblood. Now, it's obviously it's just been a roller coaster there for going onto decades. There's been some really rely highs and some very low lows, but you know, UCLA stuff, I know we talked about in the GP a really nice calm. You should read. Just check us Twitter feed. Google it gone CBS sports app about the disaster. UCLA search the if you're UCLA it's two in one. Of course, this happens because this is just the institutional issues that are happening at that school. But also like you cannot have this. If you CLA. It's an embarrassment that even took this long. And after the Barnes thing fell apart you're able to salvage yourself with Cronin. And I think that they they really had to entice mic. I don't think mic was like begging to leave because he had a good situation and was due to get a pay increase it Cincinnati like in the coming days. Okay. So if it wasn't going to be Cronin. Then I think you were in some real trouble there. But he lands there. And we have we officially have a change over there. And I think every big job is closed for now, we expect L assu we expect LSU we'll open and we'll see if anything else opens in the coming weeks. These these these things can both be true UCLA disaster running the search. I mean, they could not have been dumber. Like. Why are you even talking to Rick Barnes? He's at the end of the day is not going to pull the trigger on it. Like, here's the thing. You get into a bidding war with an SEC school. They have all the money in the world. They can pay Rick Barnes, whatever. And then remind him what it costs to live in LA rip. Barnes was not rip Barnes is from North Carolina. He wasn't going to move to LA even if he thought, well, maybe I will. No, he wasn't at the end of the day. Tennessee was going to do what it had to do to keep it like it was such a page out of the Calipari playbook. What Rick Barnes just did that it wouldn't surprise me? John gala Perry picked up the phone because he Ricker friends and said, hey, Rick, you want to get an extra million dollars a year at Tennessee. Get your agent on the phone, call UCLA. Here's the number because I've been talking to over two months. Call them, tell them you're agent, Tom you're interested, and then have your agent give it to a report let him tweet at your candidate. I can get you an that that'll get you an extra million dollars a year and someone money through your systens within the next forty eight hours. All you gotta do is to do what I told you. That's because that's what he did. He was I just I tweeted on Sunday night. And I never thought the reporting was bad. I believe that he was a real candidate. And I believe that UCLA thought they could get him. But it's just like. It's not quite as extreme as John Calipari or Tony Bennett. But like he was not going to leave Tennessee to go to UCLA beyond that. If Rick did at UCLA exactly what he just did at Tennessee. They wanna fire him. Yeah. Too bad seasons in a row and then had a surprisingly good season. But lost in the round of thirty two and then had a season in which it was ranked number one in the country, but lost in the Sweet Sixteen UCLA is want to fire him. And it just got a raise it to at Tennessee. They're like ban reports. Amazing. We can't afford to lose it at UCLA do that. Exact same thing. They wanna fire you. So just wasn't gonna leave. I dunno. What they would just silly. They embarrassed themselves and wasted another forty hours and then circle back to where they could have been two weeks ago mic, and I I think makes gonna do. Well, there I think they hired a good coach, but they should just hired Cronin two weeks ago. If they were gonna hire me Cronin at skipped all this other silliness because what they did with Mick is like mic was the girl at the bar when you walk in at nine o'clock. You're like, okay. I can go home with that one. Okay. I go home with that one whenever I want. So before I decided to go home with that. Well, let me see if I can get this one. Nope. But what about this one? Nope. What about this one not interested? What about this one won't even look at you? What about this one hate your guts? What about this one not a chance? She. Still over there. She still just sitting at the bar waiting like mic was that. And I like like MC I I'm not trying to on him. But like that's what he became in this analogy. And so then they just finally circle back loose. And we gotta get a coach job open New Year's Eve didn't feel to April night absurd. It's absurd. Like, I'm hesitant to call. These people who are running this search dumb because it can't be Dom. They're super successful people, and I don't know Wasserman. But I do know Dhingra not dumb. So I'm not like saying all these idiots, but they would about this in an idiot way. I think that's reasonable. Like, I don't think I'm dumb, but have I ever done dumb things. Of course. As recently as yesterday. So that's what I would say about them, not dumb people. But they went about this incredibly dumb manner. But I still think they got a good coach they win about all the wrong way. But here's the truth. Somebody asked me, how do you think makes gonna do at UCLA? I said things going to do. Well. And then I think he's going to get fired because he won't be good enough for them because nobody's ever good enough for. Yeah. In five years is Mick Cronin. Still the coach at UCLA. I'll say, yes. To five would say, yes, here's what happens at UCLA. They assume you should get the best players in the country have like top five recruiting classes because maybe you should. I mean, it is UCLA southern California. Plenty of players they do wanna come there. That is the best thing about the job is you just have access to players want to be on your campus. Because I don't know if you've ever been to the UCLA campus, but it is awesome. Like if I were seventeen again, go back, I try to go to that place. It's amazing. So they expect you to get the best players in the country. And then they expect you to do what you're supposed to do. Or at least what they think you're supposed to do with the best players in the country. And that means Sweet Sixteen are not good enough. By the way, like what really what mixed been doing for the past nine years only once sixteen in at nine year span sweet sixteens at UCLA are not good enough. And that's not my opinion. That's what I was told. When I pointed out that Steve Alford went to three sweet sixteens in like five years, or whatever. It was UCLA has told me GP. That's not good enough. So you just took a job. Sweet sixteens aren't good enough. Elites is the only way you can keep your job. Final fours. National good luck. I don't care who you are. That's incredible part of set. And so I think Mick will do. Well, here's what I predict in five years, you Nabi talking and you'll say, hey, do you think makes done at UCLA? And I'll say personally, I think he's been really good. But they're about the fire or they've already fired. They'll fire. They'll fire guys who do well because it's not good enough for them. That's the UCLA job. And I think Mick smart enough to know that he got twenty four million dollars. No matter. What happens? Yeah. So like, he smart enough to know that. But it's it's a tough deal. I really do think it's one of the toughest jobs in the country because the expectations are are just at least in my opinion, a little out of whack I agree real quick. Just one other piece of coaching news that happened today as we were traveling and also a bad look for university. It was two days ago. Maybe three days ago, I've lost track of time. That Mike Craig the new athletic director at Saint John's put out a statement on Twitter. That's like we have our coaching criminal. And there is no we are not conducting search we are happy with their coach. And then by the way, Chris Mullin resigned. Like, it's a terrible for Saint John's for that to happen. And there was I mean, come on on the ground at the final four there were rumors starting to circulate that because Mullin was losing Matt up Massey. One of his sisters to return to working for Fred Hoiberg. Who did it? I was state and now we'll at Nebraska amid other things and a lot of player departures that Saint John's might have some coaching turnover than the eighty comes out with the statement. And now Mullins out I actually think it's the right move for the program. But I think the programs that disaster at this point you're talking about a school that does not have as much history behind this UCLA. But at Saint John's there certainly is someone who lives in the northeast beat the fan base that general sports pop. Fearless people that root for the big. There's an aching for Saint John's to just be good sustained. It's not happening Mullins out there. Here comes another rebuild. It's going to be a couple years before this team is even relevant again, we wait and see on. You're already hearing Rick Pitino attached to it you're hearing because of the Duques dis arming the Saint John's ties to Duke, maybe Bobby Hurley from Arizona state. I think that might make sense. But when I said before that every job at closed, I'd forgotten the moment that Saint John's actually technically opened on Tuesday. Don't know if you have any quick thoughts on that before we left the pod, but definitely worth bringing up here in light of Cronin becoming official. I would say this, and you might have heard otherwise. But I heard this was more Mullins decision than Saint John's decision. Clearly, they were unsatisfied with them. And I get y but I think he knew like next year's the last year. Like, I if I have another mediocre bad year, I'm gone, and I'm. Probably going to because you just lost his best recruiter. And like, why am I doing this? That's what I was. Totally. I I I would I would by that. I mean, it just it was not the right fit. It was. I was told that he reached the point where he said, you know, what I this is not I don't enjoy this. This is not what I because the knock on him. And I really don't know Chris at all I've talked to a couple of times. But I don't know well enough to label him, but the label he got was that he just didn't work did not put in the work the way you have to put in the work to be a successful biggies coach. And if you don't put in the work, that's just as you don't love the job. And if you don't love the job, and you are Chris Mullin who's made a lot of money in your life. What why why are you doing it? And I was told that he essentially reached that point like this is this is not coincidentally. Why we've been recording this podcast. Magic Johnson has resigned. What is happening? I know. I just saw GP and his explanation is built he's basically a billionaire. Yeah. Or something close to it. If not that this isn't fun for me. Like I like being Magic Johnson where I can go on a yacht. If I want to go on a yacht or just being an ambassador of the sport or just I don't want to. It's fun running a basketball team like at least it's not fun for me. And I had more fun. When I wasn't the president of the Lakers. I like being the point guard at the Lakers, but I don't like being the president of Lakers, and I'm just walking away and on a much lesser level. I'm told that Chris kind of got to that point. Like, this isn't fun being the head coach of Saint John's. It's not what I envisioned. This is not the way I wanna spend my days because it is a grind. I mean. These guys are well compensated to do a job. So I don't feel sorry for any of them. But it is a grind. And if you don't love it or need it. It is not a it's not a happy way to live. And I was told that he sort of he's sort of got to that point. Yeah. We'll say as we as we podcast and the coming week. Who fills that season is over? But the news cycle is sure to continue with that. And then obviously, I mean is so many kids that are going to declare you can now declare with an agent still come back. So the draft stuff, by the way, this has become the postseason to the postseason. Always just one after another. And even today was busy Joe Jared. Harper gone for good Iggy breath day is gone for good. And then the big ones. And this is the last thing I wanted to touch on then we'll get outta here. Because I'm competent my wife hates me. Right. I'm right there with she this. This is not this is not good for a home life. But you know, what we got to get this part of the listeners by man. Can you can? Yeah. Well, I hope the listeners are going to be willing to have sex with us because that's where we're gonna be. Okay. We're gonna be cut off at oh. We're going to be cut off at home. I'm confident anyway, Ashton Hagans. Hagans and trae Jones both announced that there were turning to school obviously ash into Kentucky trae Jones to Duke you surprised by either of these bolted these if you'd asked me a month ago trade Jones gone. Yep. Ethnic gone, but they're back in school. And that's massive for Kentucky, Duke. I've got them both in the top five of the top twenty five more. Yeah. I think I think I'm listening GP us some time to top twenty five and one I took a scant through it. I didn't have any major disagreements with you think I think I'd have to Kentucky five trade Jones. What surprised me I thought he was going to go the fact that he returns because he's he's not a great perimeter shooter elite defender, but he's like a Solomon rain shoot and get to lane. I think that he would have been he would have been drafted if he left, but he returns that's a great thing for college basketball, love it. He would I think would have to be. He's a locked for our top one hundred one top ten. That's there's no. About it. So big for him and another Fender national Hagans big time stuff there on that end as well. So some good bonuses for for college hoops, and that the two most popular disgust polarizing programs in the sport get something outside the norm. They get really talented high profile freshman to come back for a second season. This is of course, the second season's happen with Kentucky. And I wouldn't I guess it's not abnormal. I mean, we've seen we've seen this where they've had four stars. And certainly five star guys at UK wind up coming back a second season for one reason or another, but but that's really good and. Yeah. Because of that those teams are just stone cold locks preseason up ten, and I would not be surprised if just even outside of is when we get to the poll in October and all that stuff if blue devils and Wildcats as usual wind up in the top five in the preseason. By the way, I've changed. I published a top stories on one this morning, and I've already changed to different times today. And I told her God bless markets Nelson, by the way if. He's listening. Absolutely. It couldn't possibly have time to listen to sixty minutes of this. But my man just works nonstop. And he handles the top twenty five and one and I sent it to him late last night. He publish it this morning, and then I was like yoga. Okay. Remember what happened? But something happened. I was like, okay. We got a chain. Oh, Mick Cronin. Lifton? Sandy that matters. I was like, okay. I gotta drop Cincinnati. So I'm gonna drop Cincinnati. I think I added Ohio State which house fans, I realized I probably should head into begin with at Ohio State. He gets that done. And then Hagen's his coming back trae Jones announce these coming back Jared Harper announced he's leaving all burn. So we had more updates to do. He's working on those. I think like right now. So the top twenty five and one will be Michigan state one for Gina to Duke three Kentucky four Michigan five Louisville. Six Marquette seven Maryland, eight Carolina nine Kansas ten when it is updated. But I told him tonight. I was like how about this. We're not going to update in real time. Because it will just be exhausting for both of us. Why these players are making these decisions. We'll just update every morning as needed until everything settles down because we updated three times today. That's too much. Yeah. It's another reason why like exhausted. So, but but those were two big announcements because you just assume that dukes gonna lose its best players, and he's gonna lose his best players each year. I guess last year Kentucky PJ Washington comeback. So that was similarly surprising, but big development for both of those programs. No question. Yeah. I think that's a that about doesn't here. My man. Yeah. I think that about does it here. 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Tony Bennett is going to join us here in a few things. Listen, let's go Utah state Nevada. You have been defending the Caroline kid. What do you know? Well, I know from what speaking with equal at Nevada's. We can directly with some of the people and have some semblance inside information that I've coached class state. It's it's a tough environment. Coaching thing said coarser games that are not nowhere society. Should be said. Some things were said, I'm not condoning Caroline's behavior. You know, he's got the oh sticks and stones can break your Bose. Certain words, you said that obser- push over the edge. And I think what happened in that situation is your let's have lost to Mexico. No issue. They lost the San Diego State notice. Right sometimes team beach. Sometimes you have these better that night. That's fine. But and and you terrific team. They really are good team. America can escorted young freshmen bought shots. They're good. They're very very good team. But it was an environment. I've always thought I'm a supporter of court storming. I think you gotta have a plan to help make sure the kids get off safely officials get off safely that that. There's really no interaction fans. But you can't you can't stop people from saying with it or to say, and, you know, unfortunately, some things were said, I think the kid was emotional after the loss in that and responded in the way that he responded, I'm not condoning all of Utah state. I'm not condoning, I mean, I'm not I'm not condemning all of you. Utah state, and I'm not condemning all their students, but there are certain things that should not be set in unfortunate. Individuals said in and you know, the league I thought was interesting the league appeased, everyone believed basically said you state you handle your house, Nevada you handle your house. We don't want veal with this deal with it internally, which is fine. That's great. But if you nor certain things than you're condoning them, and I like, I went through situation that Mexico state a long time ago where Samantha things written on a on a greaseboard came to play there. Then some things you said, you're of course of the game. I had a choice to make was I condone that was either nor by northbound condoning that ager or is going to bring to light. I felt like I was going to bring to light in talking with the parties I talked to from from you know, from Nevada. I felt that it was the right thing to do to take a stand because a lot of ways, although I don't condone what George. Caroline did. He was a victim. And I didn't wanna see him paint that as. Do you think he's been painted as villain? Patronize avila. But you know, you know, perceptions reality that videotape is not very flattering. Let's face it. I'm he looked at in the mostly kids. So I don't think anyone I have not seen. I've seen some things that were actually posted that were. Agreed. Yes, that were sent to me that I would I wouldn't post share with anyone. But I think the video speaks volumes to. In a negative connotation of you just look at the video. So that when I painted as billion I think that the video is is not a real good reflection of what this kid is been at school for four years is done. All the right things. Worked to stay off. He's terrific players. They do have a genuine family environment at at Nevada. They do a great job with commute in the community would a lot of different things for a lot of different causes. And I didn't want that one incident where he was responding to something to reflect negatively on him. So that's why it's such a strong stand. All right. We got champ week coming up. I gotta ask him before. I get into championship before we get into champ week in my world, and I've talked to our friend in a couple of others, Indiana is the topic of conversation Indiana being in the NCWA tournament. I don't know. I mean, they don't have any quadrant three or four laws as they have six Quadra on wins. They beat Michigan state twice cluding on the road. Only three road winds all year, and excuse me to road one Nutro what is your thought on twelve loss? Ts. What is your thought on a team like Indian or teams like Indiana? Is it twelve loss teams teams that have losses in your conference in your conference? I look at these you look at Oklahoma. And my man Joel brackets has those guys in all right? And like the two best ones. I was state within your league. They basically have nothing to show for the best win. I think Oklahoma as Florida they have some bad losses. You know about band losses because he's not really bad losses in the big twelve. But he's got he's got those guys it. So like here, here's my litmus stats now. Do I take a team that is six twelve in their conference? You get into the letter. No, I don't I don't. I mean, have you lose six gab? You lose twelve games. All right. I mean twelve game. So two thirds of your games and your conference you've lost. You should make a turban. Just wait is now look. Twenty game league. Twenty game league. I think gotta at least eight. My gut feeling now look I look at the end they got chances the one thing that people forget, you know, you could look at the Mars states, and I loved Murray state, and I think they're great store. You can look at the grease Ververs. You can look at all those schools and look the coaches of great job. They've wanted ten games. Here's the deal. The question. I would say is could they beat? She can stay twice today will win it was constant against Wisconsin. Could they be Arquette are those teams good enough to beat the better teams that have been attorney Indiana has proven that. And that's a look, and that's that's a positive. They just haven't been consistent enough nighttime ban losses. Sit eight wins. I think would be the minimum. I would even consider taking your team from a from a major conference eight and twelve. Here's what here's my problem with what you just said. I love I love what you just said. Except for this. Can you can that team beat Michigan state twice? I don't know whether the candidate camp, but I can go the other way and say would that team lose to Nebraska by twenty at home, which is what Indiana did I mean, very state or Clemson. It'd be down eighteen to nothing to to Michigan. Here's my thing. And I'm curious your thought you go through league play and we've eliminated the last ten game thing in the NCWA tournament. You know? Okay. And a team like Indiana. Yeah. They beat Louisville que. They beat them at home by one or three. Yeah. They beat Marquette. And that's a good win. But I watched Marquette, I think they're very good the other day. Yeah. It'd be bothered bowlers. I just I look at this. And I say man, I'm not mad at looking at the last ten games of the last fifteen game. Seth because I think those are the most important. Yeah. Look, I agree with that. Let me ask you this though way. College basketball today with twenty game schedules eighteen game schedules with you know, I think that when you look at one look win-loss records just in league play. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard because you know, what Lee plays especially in that conference than those type of conferences. I mean, people point twenty league games. Bam. Bam. Bam. Bam. Bam. Bam just every single Thursday Saturday Wednesday Saturday Monday Wednesday Saturday you play those leagues. There are no rocketmortgage games. Even a bad teams are pretty good. And even a bad teams. You always thought about the big ten there's so well coached and scouted that they're taking away certain things. And look every league has that even Vader's low badges whatever because you'll every league as they're more of a level playing field. But I just think when you get into to to that conference. And look if they can't sweep these three games. They don't belong in answered over. That's the way. Cami. Could if they can then they gotta be in the conversation. We can't just eliminate them. 'cause they're eight and twelve league playing in that league unbalanced schedule they have wins against the field. Like when some of these other teams, and I know that don't get the opportunities Royal, you know, what life's just not fair. Look, I been those ju coach knows lanes. I get it. But when they did get the opportunity to play those guys they they didn't win the games and y-, you know, you gotta win those games. Look it makes me sick. I hustle. I went ten eleven eleven and then get a tournament. I'm hearing Jolan hard Comey. Six twelve are getting into tournament. It doesn't make any sense. But for some reason the Pac twelve is downside or more spots available. The big uses and going to have as many guys that you know, we're gonna have three probably four teams in the tournament and one of the themes say John's played knowing in their non conference, so. There are more spots available. You know, are there certain teams that are serving like like, I look look buffalo Wofford Belmont. You know, what if they get knocked out? I think that they're they're deserving. But I mean, some teams that just, you know, haven't played a team have beat a team better than to twenty because they really deserve it. I let me ask you 'nother thing because I think this is important, and I'm gonna use Indiana. And I looked at sop, and there's a lot of these teams have a lot of road wins. Now, Indiana has two wins again to road wins and one neutral site, so total of three now you've got how do you acquaint that against a team like Murray who's got eleven road wins? Does that factor in because the level of competition isn't the same? Yeah. It's hard. Like, I love I love. I love the job has done. I John Moran. But here's here's my take on mart. We put trae young in Turnham it last year, and they lost a gazillion out of a conciliate one. All right, and somehow, someway, they put Oklahoma insert. All right. So do that just put John Wrentham service because you know, what? They wanna cut they want a ton of games. And they've got a guy like that dynamic and makes the turn or high. Do you put do you put a team like Indiana? Now, they always say, you don't do you put them in because it's Indiana, and they got a fan base. I mean, that's kind of what you're saying. Well, John ran I'd say he's gonna fall. No because. Gets in there showing not going to be in the mid west. So you're saying you're saying it would be more towards a player getting interest saying, that's what should be just seem to me last year. I couldn't find any way she performed put Oklahoma turkeys outta by. No, I agree. They were dysfunctional. Not getting getting better at the end. They were awful here. Yeah. They were horrific at the end. So I don't see the big twelve. We we go big. I don't see a way that is six twelve piece UT. Could be turn. I don't see a way a six twelve of home team could be the term now. That's just speaking out my guys when they got someone in. I just six twelve you lose a third of your games in your conference and stated round Robin, and it's imperative and a good defensive teams, you gotta outscore more than six. That's my I'm gonna tell you one league. I think stinks. And I watch a lot of basketball in this league over this weekend. And you can have the Pac twelve and I'm stunned. I text Dave Pasch. He was working with Walton one night. And I said, you're the only thing you too or the only thing making this interesting because that league I swear to God they've got like athletic looking do. And I know they have good coaches and far bid for me to say guys, aren't good coaches. But the coaching in that league stakes people play wild in that league. They throw the ball over hills half acre. There's no defensive stance. I look I'm not I'm telling you right now. And those guys are all I get it before you hate on me people. I get it. They're all better coaches in me, blah, blah, blah up. I get it. I'm just going by what I see. And I'm telling you man, I watching that going. This is crazy this league. Like if you did and I test I wouldn't put anybody in like, nobody even if you want. Oh, God that was a pickup game. Yes. Unbelievable that game. And then I'm watching America's worst team. And they are I think they are the big six. Yeah. And they beat the number one team in the league who looks atrocious. And then I watched him again the next night. And I saw Stanford Stanford couldn't come in. They'll fifteenth in the big ten. There's only fourteen teams and they're playing cows Washington right down to the end. It is terrible. Arizona has all these dudes. And they're just insane. The thing is nuts. This thing. What ramp is which is literally I was on road last week. And I'm watching the UCLA USC. And I remember the UCLA players complaining that they did have freedom. That was the wildest thing on a was so bad. I was sitting there. Yes. Pretty because if you crossed half court, and you had the ball odds, are you just lifting up and shoot. Yes. It was not let's put this way. It was not coming back to you know, it was crazy that that. How about the power, those fools? You're talking about world class universities. I mean, you're talking about powerful institutions that you're talking about places of destination. And you're right. I I have never seen. I watched punch plaque. This. We also and I was flabbergasted at at like UCLA they knew how to play. They got good enough players those kids would buy in. I mean, you're saying a good. But those those got eight reminded me of ever will kills grassroots Bastable. A remind grassroots all-star game. Uptown you right now. And I thought this at the time if my team played like that we would be practicing after the game. Crazy. I'm telling you crazy. These guys was unreal. Like don't tell me that's an AU game. I would say that's not an AU team. I coached because that was absurd that game. And you know, what a good for that telling you good for them. Man. I'm all for you. But. That the a look, you know, what's going to happen Seth. Here's what's going to happen. Somebody going to get in. They're going to get to teams in and they're gonna end up winning two games. Right. They're gonna end up getting two teams to the elite eight or not alienate to teams to the freaking Sweet Sixteen and everybody's gonna talk about how everybody was wrong. I don't care. They can get five teams to the Sweet Sixteen that league's a mess. That's. Arison states could there so crazy that? Get on a run. But I I'm with you. Because I was I was literally flabbergasted, I think the game before that was like Michigan that killed the Brask. So I said out I'm gonna stay up. You know, that was an awful. Thought back ten miles. They just they just keep quaint ally ways. And just it's awful. They just you did that game. Yeah. So I said, you know, what I'm gonna stay? If I'm gonna see I'm gonna watch all Pac twelve I can't sleep anyway. And I was. So funny. I said you all through my mind was back in the day, the back, Jim you went out v when you had to walk between the two gyms because those two places that they play, and you waited an hour to to get to a pay phone. So you could put corners to make sure that I knew where you're going, right? All right. We vetted. I'm just telling you. I'm not done. I'm not done on that leak that league anyway. And there's some guy in one of these teams Walton was doing the Waltons world with them. And dude can they guys in that league to that can run and jump and play. He's. He's. He's him. He's final where he's I'm look. I mean that team is able that Noah Dickerson got Chris over Glassman of Mike Hopkins inherited a very very good team. I got the kid well score that league is while you're right about that. Hey, we'll talk to coach Tony Bennett of Virginia in a minute. But I don't settle don't settle for waiting in line shopping for tickets to every game go to vivid seats, the official ticket partner of ESPN, a vivid seats, you can see your seats before you buy them. And they're back by a one hundred percent buyer guarantee may have to find another way to spend your time. Besides waiting in line. Seth. But, you know, you'll be close to the accident ever before head on over to vivid seats, the largest in that pendant ticket marketplace around and special and spend less time in the waiting room and more time in the great seats of your choice, though. Just by any NEC. Get a vivid. The worst thing in the world being the worst thing in the world. Is you try to kind of go through some backward. Channels to get a seat, you know, where you end up being fob euchre seeds, go vivid seats. No, barb euchre seats right there seat. You want to be in the seats that you know, what who knows beyond say might be next year. That's how good seats. Are. There you go. How about that beyond saying? Hey, we want to welcome in coach Tony Bennett who last night, man, man, UVA put an absolute clinic certainly in the last fifteen minutes onto cues coach, thanks for taking the time. Your team last night. I know you've had great games over the years. But that was about as good a fifteen minutes is I've seen all year in college basketball -fensive at defensively. What were your thoughts on it? Those three were so hot and just started clicking defense. Really? You know, it kind of I guess fueled our defense. So it was important that was a tight game. And it it opened up with. Like, I said sort of a perfect storm. But it was it was fun to coach that. That's stretch was as you guys know as well as all of. I'm not sure Dannon I had it. He goes. No, no that brother. No, no, no, no. What did you say you guys at halftime because you guys are pretty loose with the ball in the first half. And then the second half did a great job Kate and care the ball. And you did a great job of figuring way to get almost matching up with zone. And then getting it to the middle of Tak from there. What was your message? Yeah. I think we had eight turnovers and we gave up eight offense rebound. You know? You always look at those stats that we like to say, you know, what do we have to eliminate losing? I, and we gotta have better having a or a minus in, you know, taking care of the ball giving up, you know, or one and done on the rebounding, then obviously, no fast-break points. And we just have those gotta clean up and play the game. And you know, our guys have been experienced, and and that it can go both ways it takes a little bit of a just in the length of it and all that stuff and also that zone of just you and your playing well, so it's a double edged sword. But thought we adjusted the, you know, we got some guys behind his own that could catch and finish. We missed a few in the first half. So it wasn't. I didn't like blow 'em up. Just like listen if we're going to be effective as what we have to do. And I thought the Andre really guarded battle because they have some really good individual players are defense. I thought took a step, you know, in that stretch where we just spread out. Out played are gaps. But we bothered individual shots. And then as I said kept him off the glass with that accompany with the kind of the shooting and the offense of output. Really? You know was a quick turnaround. Coach it emits Noord blow your team up. I'd seems to me senior back in the Bahamas and watching now this looks like a team at the blow up very often. Is it? No. I think you feel the mood. I think you know, practice has to be sharp and intense and challenging, and then, you know, if you sense it as a coach in a moment, whether it's at halftime at a time out just to okay. Yeah. Sometimes have to trust that. But when you have experienced players, you know, it's this level. You gotta play the possessions. And it's whether there's different ways to do it. But I think the experience and no one, you know, we're we're in a race year where it's important for us. That was a huge game for us. Now, we still have a chance at an ACC regular season championship. It was you know, just about not playing. Perfect but playing the possession. Well, whole those the majority of the time, you know, call guy was ridiculous. But the more I watched the Andre hunter, there's a better defender in college basketball. I don't know who he is. Because he guards point guards to power forwards. How unique ac- just a half his office versatility along with his defensive. I still think remember, Malcolm, Brock and could do that. He could guard was so strong out of Paul, but both him almost seven foot win spanning the Andre has seven two wings fan and taller the ability to have that link, but you had a guard one through four I guess, you could say five and in today's game the way the game's going, I think that's huge. Because so many of the form in our terrific guards. Or you got to go out on the perimeter. And and then do that. And I think the Andre is always really continued to improve his slides on the ball. And you just see. Him coming into his own that way, and that's really important because times if you want to switch a ball screen, you can do that. Or like, I said put him on some different smaller guards and try to use his links to bother them coach. What do you do a lot of people talk about, you know, conference tournaments that kind of a lot of people out of their great defensive team and your your offense. I think if gets overlooked a lot of times based on a percentage fans know like how much you practice each offense defense transition, you know, but by percents how much do you give each? I think it's pretty balanced, you know, some days of different and you get to this stage. You know, we had that was you know, quick turnaround with a Saturday Monday game. But but you try to be sharp. I think you shorten your time. We we is what we do. We short in our time. But but keep the intensity up, but it's a pretty good balance. You know might be early in the year, you might be you know, fifty five sixty percent defence forty five offense and it's just the field. But it's not like we we don't bring the balls out. You know, we we we sit against the wall for five minutes. Not like that. It's right. It's one on one three three four four work. You guys are playing offense against other. But stuff, you're kinda mixing and matching. But I would say you, this is interesting you guys both as as you know, coaches, I was on a podcast with my father recently and really happened. But someone asked him they said how how what's the secret? 'cause he's way ahead of me. Or was way head of me. How do you get your teams to defend the way you want to what's the secret? Like, how do you do that? And his answer was interesting. I even told it to my team his answer was every night. He just said every night. That's the way you do it. And it doesn't have to be the whole practice. But it has to be, you know, the same not what she teach what you emphasizing. And if there has to defense, you can't just say, we got it. Okay. We'll leave. It will be fine for a couple of weeks. You have to continue to pour into it. And have a a mindset, I think staff does and your. Your players have to understand that. Or you got to make sure they understand it. And and it's gotta be a nightly or or a very consistent kind of thing could sister like just your principles. I know I had chance to do some games last few weeks, and I see people go through walk throughs, and they cover. Thirty place twenty place instead of just saying, right? You know offense. These are the five things they wanna do whatever the just covered have to give take away. But, but you know, every we're just gonna cover on our principles how much your principles change game to game. They're pretty consistent. I think the principles don't change. Now. You have to look at teams. They okay, they have something unique. And maybe they have a few things that might challenge your principles. So there might need to either be. All right. Here's how we're going to do it. But here's what we got in our back pocket or here's an adjustment. Let's see how it goes. But I just remember as a player an Indian just my philosophy. And maybe how I was coached to the it's hard to remember everything in the moment. You you have to understand if you things no tendencies that are staying personnel. But you have to be freed up to a certain aggressive in. What you do? That's how I think you can play your best. But, but boy, there's so many different ways to do it in saying that I know some coach there so detail, and they're so good and players have every play memorize I think our guys because they're ever Jinya. Their minds are so full with the academic side that we can't do that with the basketball side. But I think we're more principle in sets. And then, you know, make some adjustments. You you destroyed the state of Indiana. And you do it every time you're on because Kyle guy goes for like every time people watch, you know, the the state, but if you don't mind talking about him, you know, he's an interesting kid, right? He's not the normal. I don't know the right word just you know, he's not a normal kid. He's an interesting kid. He's got a lot to him. Correct. Yeah. He here's a, you know, if you watch them, you really you look at it to be, you know, his statue. And do what he does he's deceptive with his athleticism. But he he loves the game. He has fun. You know, he he knows a coach he stopped smiling and giggling with the opponent, we're getting ready to tip off or this is a serious part of the game. And you'll Kyle. He just I think he he understands that. But he's he is he's going to enjoy life. He's like that with his family's like that with, you know, his friends I see that. And I'm in and sometimes you marvel at that. But he's been significant coming here. And and just, you know, continuing to, you know, help our program so much, and he has a gift then you know, that ability to to shoot the ball like where he can turn in the air get it rolling in a streak that that not a lot of guys have. And that's so impressive. Seth. Seth better than you thought. He was. I. Yeah. I mean, I didn't you know? I was pretty excited about it. Because I saw high school at times and you'll you made the McDonald's all American game. He's the first guy we've had that I've coached that that did that. And so I was excited about him. And you're always hopeful. But no, he's he's had some performance. I think he's continued to when he gets on role. You're like how did he just do got that fortunate to coach Joe Harris? But I talk about clay, and I've had a couple of those who could just a few guys that can catch turn in the air shoot, you know, and just get that quick release. And he's he's got that as well as any. He gets, you know, slow quick. Yes. Yes. Yeah. He got us shots that were just absolutely absurd to me. Non that? He never did the ball and he catches kids there. And just just is that something you guys work on is that something that quite honestly he came in. That was carved this kind of DNA he was well coach had good form. But we always talk about, you know, a Compaq, you know, some guys can do it some can't. But a Compaq tight repeatable stroke, obviously with balance footwork, but you know, guys at drop it below the belt buckle and a lotta guys. Do we sometimes can't break those habits, but you watch the efficient quick shooters. And it's just a quick little dip is very compact. And you know, Kyle. And we work on that stuff. I'm gonna talk those guys and we kinda shot progression. But he came in with a lot of that. But I do think is great of a shooter as as all these guys are they have to whatever call them their vitamins they have to hone their strokes. They have to work at it. They have to keep keep it there. And you know, you don't always make them, but it's got to be repeatable. And then you have those nights where all the sudden you getting his own and and. He's done that more than one night. But that's the result. I gotta ask you one question at as that play. That percent. Got the flavor one. I don't know. I'm sure you've watched a game tape fat. But right. He tides Rome takes a shot right across his mum. And the only thing does it gets hit. He doesn't even flinch the ball. Swung bullet a fat line. He just got back to the base on it side and continued to defend the post. I mean, I have the kids even talked about that you see that play yet. I did I did like we're back. I m I remember it was is interesting. What happened in the game? I kind of I don't know if he was stunned a little bitty eight that Elvas we set, but he I looked at him. And he looked at me and someone on her bench. And hey, he he caught one above the, you know, the shoulders, you gotta noble to the face or whatever. And I had ties. Did you hit the elbow you? He goes. Yeah. And I said to the ref can we check that. And the rest of like me. Are you? Sure. And I try and I looked at are, you sure you've got goes. Yes. Sure. I got it. And so the ref said, okay. We'll check it. I said no check it. Because you know, you wanna you don't wanna waste the rest time on it. But I I didn't realize until I saw the the replay after that it was that way. I'm glad it. I don't know. If it connected fully, I guess I got asked high about that. We did talk about it. But glad it didn't knock them out or connect fully is. It was it was the greatest like like, I it was almost the best. You have like he just worked weight of yellow side and got his hand cross the bridge. At the pass. It was the greatest. Did move them to the right position on the bottom side. Coach. I gotta ask you man last year the tournament sixteen seed one you guys you have a plan for how you're gonna handle any of this. I mean because you're gonna get bombarded with it kids are gonna get bombarded with it as you get through all this kind of stuff. You know? I mean, it's just it's what it's going to be. Is there a plan? Do you talk about what do you do with all that? Well, I think we tried to do right with it when it happened after it happened in this year, and and address it and use it and take ownership and say it is two of our stories. What happened can we most of us have grown so much from a type of adversity or two in our life where it has hurt us and helped us, you know, you know, basketball and beyond and I think that's been the case. And you know, it's been something. That's always brought up a lot. We get answered or asked about or your crowds chance that, you know, the UNBC chant, but you know, this we're in a race right now this year, it's new. Team. And we've tried to glean from what we can from it. And I'm sure obviously is we didn't turn. Of course that stuff will be brought up and asked, and you just you just laid online. There's nothing guaranteed in one and done. You know, I just I'm so proud of our guys because we're in an eighteen game conference where one game left, and we have a chance to win, you know, an ACC championship, which is is unbelievable. And then we step into the ACC tournament. And then the NCAA tournament be there laid on the line. Of course, we've been proactive about it. But but you gotta show up and play and play your best. And that's that's the reality of this or your fun team to watch coach. I just watching your kids just tied the whole group just how much they enjoy each other and trust each other both ends, and that it's just fun to watch your team play for people that question, your style, your your style weight or well that sometimes you have a fun team, but coaching and you. A terrific team. We enjoy watching play. Appreciate it guys and respect you guys. Both your minds for the game. And like several plea. We can just keep on and enjoyed being on with you guys. Thanks a lot coach. All right, Dan. Slam champion. Maybe what are you doing warming up for the game? Like, we'll all the games. I watch people when I can't get tickets. It helps bring stadium atmosphere to wherever watch it. Dosen again, come on Vick. Save it for the air. We've got a game and check out vivid seats. It's the easiest way to get all the tickets to the games you want to go to vivid seats for the win baby. This time. I'm charting this. At that want you to know. I am charting our picks. I don't know. I'm started this week because I don't want to just make picks on a win people money. You ready? Let's go gay Thursday. Number twenty Cincinnati at number twenty five UCF at seven PM eastern on ESPN two. So you got. This is tough because I saw taco fall S week that is the largest you could be received log grant, it's almost comical how big us, and you know, he actually catches it and puts it in the whole net since I made up UCF plays. Really good defense. I'm in their athletic in long. They play hard. Pretty good job. But Cincinnati I mean, but you see have they made a run off reductions is really good heavens said back. Count for pound pound for pound gun. Mick cronin. All did sweep. He wins. Grinders gets coast games has guys play hard. They graduate guys. They guys go to the NBA, and he just keeps on winning despite everything I am fighting Macron's on wrote pound for body ways, like six pounds. Well, that's what I'm saying. The guy's going. I'm going with Taco Bell. Because I think taco fell I like their team. I really liked their team. I like their team. I have. Here's my problem, though. All right eye problem with college, basketball, basketball, and football. I've a problem picking a team. That's not used to great success the game after they have great success. You see them saying here UCF beat Houston? Are they going to be able to play? And I always tell people this the best thing Bob Knight ever did as a coach at least when I was with him at Indiana. It was get you to forget the last game. Now, he reminded you if it was a loss, and he crushed you. But he never let your head get to. I it's Indiana was usually pretty good. I'm back to back after good wins. I'm not sure UCF's going to do it. But I like their talents. I'm taking UCF and taco fell ball fell bell ball fell alcohol. Yeah. I know. I know next one two PM eastern on ESPN news, Saturday, number eight, Texas Tech at unranked Iowa State in who you get Texas Tech is going to win this by six hundred seventy two I think Texas Tech is peaking on the road. Yes. I think I was state's lost some at home. But I am a I watch Texas Tech last night dismantle Texas. And I'm thinking to myself, why should Texas Tech be better than Texas? Right. I mean to me it shouldn't be that way. But I love their toughness. I think offensively they're better than people give them credit for and I think they're getting better. I think they're the one team in cal- in that league. That is alone. Kansas state. I like Kansas state. But I think they're just getting better. And better said, I'm going Texas Tech. Catch sets crude they're making ten threes. Agape? Yeah. I didn't threes game. The team that you know, early in the season relied on Jarrett Kover late clock of just go get shot this guy. Back Mooney back moody is a tough. Do they got to fifth year tranches graduates mangoni Trico those two guys that changes team? I mean, they lost pros. I mean, they they lost. Really good players. Having said that I was state. At home. Senior night. I'm a big believer senior night on just senior night brings out the emotion one way or the other teeth. No either way. But I think I was there due to put it all together. There do to not only compete are actually. But the PD Fettes rebounded ball. So I am going to go with the magic. But help. Keeping your keeping track. Next one number four, Duke number three North Carolina, Chapel Hill six PM eastern on ESPN Saturday, Seth he got. This is this is. Syndrome is they said can guess he don't know if you're going to be honest. I do know one thing though. I watched I watch Duke North Carolina in person first time, and I saw the most undisciplined defense I've ever seen like you play Carolina. All right. What's first thing? Demand on defense. What seven you got to take away to secondary? What's third venue? You gotta do out of a time out. No that in a scramble. So you can turn it over. All right. I still look may when Zion lames went out Zion. Williams was a bad match Carolina. When we he went he went out. Luke maye became a bad match up for Duke and Duke showed no discipline whatsoever. Having said that my gut is that Zion plays and do Quinn's. How I just got a dissertation bad. They're they're gonna wind up taking. Here's my problem. I can undermine is different than yours. Mike and under is that I never think. And maybe it's happening. I don't have it in front of me. And I really don't care. But my my thing is do Carolina never disappoints it disappointed in the first game. Because the talk of the first game design Williamson blown out his shoe and Duke not playing defense. I don't think this one's going to disappoint. I think that Duke is going to play. Well, but I think North Carolina's gonna beat them. Now having said that Seth I know what's going to happen. I know because nobody ever sweeps this thing going to do some weird stuff and win the game. But I love the way Carolina's plan, I'm taking Carolina, and I hope that Zayn Williamson's back. I hope that vertigos done with old ROY. And I hope everything's good in Chapel Hill or wherever the hell they're playing a game. So I'm taking this Carolina sweeps. I think they do. I do they do. I look I think this thing is so fluid like all of a sudden Michigan state loses Indiana, and I still saw them on the to line. I think there's a lot of stuff yet to be determined here set. And I think that's one of who's going to be one in two. I agree. I agree. I last game number seven Michigan at number nine Michigan state at eight PM eastern on. On the call on the call. So can I pick it or? No, you may really. I don't think. So I won't tell anyone. All right. I'll pick it. What the hell? I'll pick it. I'm gonna pick a tie because I don't wanna hear from anybody. I don't wanna hear anybody's all over me. I'm going to pick this. I'm gonna tell you the right now the fans are going to boom, e I'm gonna go do it's thing. They're gonna chant. We hate dockage because Michigan state, and I don't get along. I love Izzo. And is a love me. I love Beland my son played for him. But since I'm doing the game. And I see every other host. Curb street and the rest they don't pick the game. I'm going to say it's going to be a tie. All right. That's good. First time his accounts fast. Give me the keys I'm gonna make you, you know. What are the keys to this game? Dan. You can't go eight to ten minutes which Michigan can do not score. Because Michigan gets as you say stuck on offense. And they don't. And they don't have anybody that can just shoot them out of it. Now Iggy bras Dake is at times Jordan at times. But I'll tell you this Jordan pulls got a little too cool for Jordan pool and school. So I'm saying you can't go on these five six droughts. If you don't and you're Michigan. He got chance to win the game because Michigan state Michigan state can go through a bit of a drought to Indiana. I thought guard on the entire the entire time and guard him very well. I'm interested, but Michigan. Seth Michigan goes too much too. Many too many too many droughts in scoring and Kansas flat jump up and shoot their way out of them. If Thomas wins this game, this'll be this will be the best coaching job. He's done because you think about thirty four points. You know, Josh light for a Nick ward casher, switch the wonder if he's just worn down just worn down 'cause he's asked to do so much, and he's got it at a high level. They have no bench scoring whatsoever. If goings and Tillman Santa Fadul because they are really good defensively, and they keep Xavier sips, and if Charles Mathews placed rows matters 'cause I mean what trophies replied from getting to their right hand. I mean, why does anyone let Xavier Simpson gets who's writing gets his right ends passer. He gets his right Haiti shoot the floating Billy faults running hook. He gets his right hand. He contract achey aching. Put more pressure on defense. Why they let him get through his right hand is absolutely my by. I saw that the other night against Maryland. The dude is get right handwriting and right hand in what way against these. Pretty good Ivy. Michigan state stops. Who into his right hand? I think that Michigan state with goings until men are better defensively than ward. I cash is gonna have a big game. And and and that Quaid is got to really step up. I think they will. I can't see them losing back the backers. And I think out I think I they had grass stepping tonight. But I think when that one and I think that the mission statements game. There you go people. There is America. You've just been educated. Thank everybody for listening. I wanna hope you go to wherever you get your podcast and give us a good rating. Maybe we said something you didn't like about your team. But this podcast is off the change y'all so go give us a great rating. It is the world's greatest podcasts. It said Greenberg, our friend producer gape, and Dan dockage peace out where the mother thank you for listening to courtside with Greenberg. Dockage? You can listen it. Subscribe to all ESPN podcast in the listen tab of the. ESPN app, including the latest from the NBA in the hoop collective podcast available in the ESPN app or apple podcast.

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Vogue Love Stories: Love and Basketball

Vogue Podcast

22:04 min | 3 years ago

Vogue Love Stories: Love and Basketball

"This is the vogue love stories podcast a series of personal stories about love in all its forms. I'm your host vogue dot com. Culture editor alissandria codeine ah in. This is Michelle Ruis reading her essay from last year, love and basketball. Look at you to a good friend recently marveled at my husband and me. I am loving this. Teamwork. Dan, I were sitting wrapped before the TV and her Dan clutching cold beers and routing maniacally for the university of Virginia. Cavaliers are alma maters basketball team, alternately leaping up to yell clap yell at the referee's total BS calls and give each other high fives Daniel shrugged off the compliment as our friend. Well, new we really weren't one of those couples in fact before this. He laughed a little we had nothing in common. Never mind that we've been married for five years have three year old daughter a baby son on the way and had. Yes. Attended the same college where we'd met as freshmen and from which we share a bunch of the same friends, those minor details notwithstanding he was right? We were largely different people who had shared little to none of the same interests or hobbies. In the immortal words, Paula Abdul and MC scat cat. We went together 'cause opposites attract he's from the south Atlanta. I'm from the north Long Island, perhaps accordingly. He is humble and easy going while my default, speaking volume is Fran drescher he's the business. Major turn financial analyst despite his best attempts to help me pass to wanna one I became an English major and writer, my husband rox business casual khakis on the regular while I'm counting the days until I can break out my leather pants post baby or cultural tastes have been. Similarly, divergent Daniels idea of musical nirvana is thirteen minute. Fish jam I on the other hand blasted bitch. Better have my money after daughter went to school while unpacking boxes during our recent move as a black belt raised on John Claude van Damme. Daniels prefers cinematic diet includes the born taken series while Narian award season shall pass without me. Scouting the latest indie darlings to cry over for better or for worse. We'd been like the left brain right brain of relationship for years. Or is another good friend suggested charitably like yin and Yang far be it. From anyone to wonder what we were doing together after meeting? Young. We had after all dated on and off and long distance for the better part of a decade before getting married to dating my opposite. Sometimes drive me a little crazy. Sure. But over time having nothing in common just didn't prove to be a dealbreaker more outgoing guys just seem cocky and cross compared with Daniel. And I can only assume that any demure southern belles heating countered were boring compared to the little old me in search out hands. Here we through each other bones, of course, in the name of love. I'd suffered through my fair share of fishes and Daniel had ever thoughtfully taken me to see the nutcracker in not one but two different cities. I resolved that as independent headstrong people. I guess we do have a few things in common. We didn't have to share everything to ask him to be tall dark, handsome and equally obsessed with the onset felt pretty delusional. I reasoned we didn't both have to love Wes Anderson movies, if we loved each other, right? And so it went until three years ago when Virginia basketball came out of nowhere and became a marital game-changer while happened to be homebound on. Maternity leave during one of the snowiest winters in New York history. The basketball team at our alma mater, God good for the first time in a long time Dana leapt at the opportunity to root for a winning Virginia team. And though it always been sports agnostic. I watched the Super Bowl strictly for lady Gaga in my pitifully lonely. Stated home with a new baby I discovered college basketball was exhilarating. Unpredictable. Addictive. Tv suddenly, we were both tuning in standing over our favorite players. Texting e-mailing postgame analyses and national rankings huddling to watch team press conferences on Daniel's phone and in my case falling deeply in love with our coach the almighty Tony Bennett as we'd danced to the playoffs. We booked babysitters on the fly for dates. I never imagined. I look forward to heading to the neighborhood sports bar Blondie on the Upper West side, truly second to none for beer wings, and the emotional adrenaline fuelled roller coaster of March madness turns out it's one hundred percent more exciting than talking about work over an average sushi dinner. And pure fun to finally on the same team. At least one team three years later. Virginia basketball is a boon to our marriage. We've built more than one spontaneous kid free getaway around tournaments and big away games. And now count one of our dream trips as the TVD city that hosts the final four someday when Virginia makes it again, and they will trust our differences still rear themselves. Even in our shared phantom. I'm a fiery sometimes, okay? Often sore loser while Dana managed to find the silver lining in defeat. But even lamenting a big loss to UNC together at two AM at a waffle house in Greensboro, North Carolina felt like a treats. And in everything else will remain yin and Yang like every child of the nineties. I had the earings elementary school in scrawl them inside my Lisa Frank shopper keeper. But I never looked up the definition until recently they are two opposite yet complementary energies, Google recently informed, me, although they are totally different opposite in the visual, qualities and nature. They are independent yen, and Yang cannot exist. Without the other. My husband will never watch the Golden Globes with me, I will never venture to the dark side and join him in true fish fandom, but will always have basketball. Thank you so much reading sure I feel like I just saw on Instagram how you doing doing well right air doing so. Well, they're doing so great. It's actually crazy. We just beat Duke at home of the most hostile basketball environments in the country for the first time since nineteen ninety-five. Did you go we didn't go, but we hosted kind of a viewing party Blondie just mentioned in the. Game and just shot out to you. And we all watched the game and just lost our minds. It was great. But yeah, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that you have another really fabulous essay that you wrote for vogue dot com, which is confessions of a fish wife, which is with a ph about navigating a marriage to somebody who's committed to fish the band. Yes. Everyone should go read that if they haven't already having gone to a boarding school where I was subjected to many jam bands. I feel for you. I can't imagine. It's Brad I deal more with dad rock. So I can't, you know, fresh fish and other level, which is a particular brand of fandom ph. Yup. Really, it's something special. I mean like it or not you have to kind of throw the praise hands up to the fish fans because they are devoted committed. They will circle the globe. They will bring the Anthony Adam they will go to the same venue for four five even thirteen consecutive nights. Just happened at I mess g last year, the baker's doesn't and their love and devotion to the span really knows. No bounds. Daniel Goto Vickers doesn't. And he went to the baker's dozen. He only went to about four or five of the dozen. I really thought was like amazing. I thought that was restrained. So good because people are like going to thirteen and I was like goodness now. I mean, just he does have a job less than and a little bit of a life outside fish. So he didn't two children to be that. But we did just see the lead singer randomly. We were in a car on the way to airport and all of a sudden Daniel Craig on the window and screamed screwball trae because. He's sought the lead singer just walking down the street, and I was just like wonders never cease here. Yeah. I mean, there's something very sweet about that. It, you know, it's cool as kind of as we sort of get into in this story. There's something so fun about. Yes. Loving a band or a team, and it, and it is nice when you can share that with someone else not to be for fish with us. But at least sorta sociologically anthropologically right behind it fascinating enough that I had taken a hiatus. But I did go to one to one show recently. You tried. You did. Yes. You did the thing. Yes. I feel like I mean in your fish story. I don't actually remember which in the fifth straight. You talk about being sort of like the cool wife. Right. And I feel like it's it made me think of Gillian Flynn thing about being the cool girl, and like this pressure to be you know, like I twenty hamburgers, but I still have no body fat. And like, I'm totally down for whatever. Over in L sorts of ways. And then it's like, actually just I dunno. It was funny to meet a read that into like, oh that doesn't stop when you get married. Like, you still want to be not totally not totally. I think like for in the beginning. I what I was trying to be looked like cool, supportive, right wife and not like the shrew. Right. Who's like complaining about where you go. And and do nobody wants to be king of queens. Right. So it does it really does continue it. So funny to think about it. It's like the cool girl. The cool, y you're there's this sort of sense of wanting to be the accepting woman in in a scenario that changes, you know, changed for me when we had one and then two kids where it's like, you're, you know, fish phantom and some of the pitfalls of it are no luck white not quite as tolerant about like, sure. You know, go goat fly to Vegas for a bunch of Halloween fish fish shows. Right. And if I'm. Going to be watching kids not as into it. Whereas before them, I would just kind of go along, right? And you can go to one show. But I think it was funny because the fish the fish fandom was like the pointed out that there are a lot of women fish fans, you know, and I was like, well, I never saw their word. I just said that I'm not one of them, which is okay. Right. And not every wife has to be you don't have to be into the same things kind of the same that was sort of like fundamental question of the that I came into the basketball story with which was kind of like how much common interests matter, and like how much stock should you put a non like, I remember a friend was having doubts about the person's shoes. With one of the things you talked about was thinking about those on the way over here was that he this is back in the madman era didn't watch him madman. And that they couldn't talk about it on Sunday nights. And it was probably maybe emblematic of other things, but it really and not to minimize it bothered her like she felt like she would sit there with her like mind exploding with Don on the, you know, on the cliff at the end, and like she had no one to talk about that with in her home. And she wanted that for some people. I think it really matters a lot and is a thing to be like we both love, Paul Thomas Anderson. Movies like, we share this, or at least that you care enough to try that like you have to love it. But like you'll watch it or you'll you'll try you'll go you'll ask a question like or you'll talk about it. Yeah. Totally think it's like that's what I love about your piece too. Is that it's sort of like gesturing at that. Like, you did happily like meet over the shared thing. And you actually both really enjoy. But like, you know, I don't know it's nice to find the common ground. It's like a it's not a giant thing. It's basketball, but fun and you're like a married. Couple is fun together. Which is. True. I think I was kind of defensive or like to that nad men friend. I was kind of like, whatever, it's okay, at least for me. 'cause she kind of I think sought me out on the topic. 'cause she knew that my husband, and I didn't have a lot of like common pub, cultural interest, and she was sort of questioning like how important is it? Like am. I being crazy that I'm so upset that he doesn't watch madman or or is this or is it okay to say like, why don't we share this? And it's bothering me that we don't have this thing in common. And I think she sought me out on it. Because she knew I was kind of like look to me it's on the deal-breaker, and I was a little bit like prickly about it. I think because you see on Facebook and Instagram constantly like that like that ubiquitous birthday anniversary pre wedding message where it's like. Tomorrow. I marry my best friend, my rock, my soul mate, my intellectual sparring partner, and who happens to also share my love, Paul Thomas Anderson movie, it's like and everything the real golden standard in a way. Like now, or you know, it's a modern thing compared to when like brides just like bought with the dowry and had nothing to do with like common interest. But, you know, an ester Perol talks about that where she's like, it's kind of nuts. Expect all of these things from one individual can't. And you know, our common interests one of those things it is an interesting thing. So I was kind of prickly about it. And then once we had this thing that is kind of enduring in common, I sort of saw the value in like having maybe at least one one kind of interest like this that every year, you go to this like festival or these concerts or you follow the same team. What have you? It is really fun is kind of fun to share in that joy excitement together. Yeah. And so if they lose is it like nuclear devastation because that's the thing. I could never handle. I'm from Boston. Oh god. Take sports losses. Very personally end like deeply, and I just stopped caring. I mean, I love the Red Sox like go, pats whatever, but it's hard. I'm always like, I the idea of ruining your day or your week because a team of people you don't actually know like law was I was just like now there's real thanks to be upset about it. It's not not that. Yeah. I mean, I think we he's pretty logical. He's pretty logical human being I'm probably more emotional about it. I think a few seasons ago we got very far and we got to the elite eight and so we were on the cusp of being in the final four inches. Like, everyone knows the the big the big deal big deals and. I think I was more depressed like shed a few tears when I saw like the team coming off the airport. I was like actually shed a few tears legitimately because people had showed up in the rain at one AM. Welcome home from the airport just to like show their support. And we were so excited. We'd like booked to hotel and minute forget what city that final. I going to be in Dallas. But we were like pretty sure we could make it and we like to hotel, and we were like rearing to go for this mazing life experience. And then I was super upset. But I mean, it's it's I I it doesn't ruin our day in the in the way that I think about like, you know, my uncle's Steelers fan who hangs banner in his living room. Like, I think he might be more upset, right? Maybe than either one of us were front style. Yeah. Yeah. We're like we're not living for it. But we're really into it. And and it's fine. I mean, and this year, you know, this off office the prize this year, we came in very kind of moderate to low expectations because we didn't know. We lost a lot of big stars. From the teams over like, whatever happens happens. It'll be fun. And then we're number two in the country. Amazing. So it's really been like a I've noticed on her Instagram stories coaches kind of hunky. Oh, he's so cute. Coach is Tony Bennett. Really cute. Tony bennett. Like, the singer hysterical. Yeah. Like, I think maybe last year or two years ago. He he fell on the sidelines. He had like a he fainted or something and everyone thought that it was the real the real tiny. Tony Bennett had collapsed so upset that he looks like dad or something. Yeah. He's amazing. He's an amazing coach he's very easy on the eyes. And he in a in a sport where there's a lot of underhanded, scheming and elicit behavior around recruiting people like bringing prostitutes to high school children recruiting events at money changing hands licitly. Tony's like above the fray that way. He's really he's a man of faith. He loves he loves he has like these ethics, but he was still on the team. So he he's someone you can actually look up to which right? Which is great. It's like Robert Muller like someone here. Like, oh my God. Actual legit man that you can like get behind and not right. You know, there would never be a metoo. They would never be new hope. Yes. Coach Tony better than do. You guys have any like Valentine's Day traditions. You celebrate it. You know, I'm trying to think so I mean so many years ago when we met we met not that long before Valentine's Day, which can be sort of hearse on your relationship. So long ago, this is like Valentine's Day two thousand one so seventeen years ago, and we met over kind of casually dating or newly dating or whatever. And he had to go traveled to a funeral is passed away. And then he came back to school with like a crush dead rose that he got to be do work or whatever airport like put in a suitcase like a really cheesy like pop-up card that you like opened and like multiple a cartoon teddy bears like offs out of the guard. And so it was a very like cheesy yet like sweet appreciate her gesture. Nineteen year old persons dont Hines day. So not really I mean, I think we kind of take it light pretty light heartedly. It's like we'll go do something. But not on the nights last year. I had like heart-shaped ravioli for him. I mean. Yeah, I think I think the of going out on Valentine's Day night for like a prefixed Jenner is already week. So I would never I would always be like by babe I'm going to like twelve shows and come back like sad and exhausted. Isn't there like a fake? I think there's like a fake Valentine's eight Victoria Beckham shows not to be confused the gallon tines day. But I thought that there is like a like the fifteenth. It's a it's like a separate Valentine's Day that people like actually celebrate on to void just like the cheese and like prefix silly, right? Nisa Valentine's Day, but I like the sentiment of it. Yeah. I mean, I think acknowledging that it's a it's a hallmark holiday. But it's nice to be appreciative of people that you love is. Nice. Yeah. Like, I'll take the excuse to like have have some flowers given to me. I would like some spread love. I mean, I think it's q- like my daughter, they do a little cards to the class and stuff. And like I remember in second grade, my best friend, and I love this boy Ryan Titus, and if you're listening. Hi, Ryan, and I we gave him like we like inundated all Valentine's into his box like super aggressive eight year olds. But I love like, you know, I love doing that. With her really we make a little little the little like full Dover card from the drugstore and give it to everyone. And it's just cute. It's nice hallmark holiday that. You can get behind. That is nice. Yeah. I'm glad that redoing the series again. I mean, it's it's sort of like a good time of year. I feel like to a love this series because I love like, you know, I love all the different forms of love that come up with it like sisterly love Lena love between friends. It's funny. How hard it is to get people to write about other people. Yeah. Everyone's like, oh, I have one I, you know, like planted a tree outside. Yes. You're once or tell it anonymously like hang around. Like to kind of tell them nonex- anonymously, and she was like, no. It's hard to write about your personal. It's really hard. And you know, I I worked at Cosmo for years as the sex and relationships that are it's like kind of fell on either one side where some people were like wheels up to a sex retreat with her boyfriend, and we're gonna write about every detail about that and other like God. No, I would never tell these details. And I think and then sometimes it's split where like I'm more of a share. But I'm not the only person in this relationship. And so you kind of both have to be on board with like sharing your personal details. Having them be Google bowl right to your like once future bosses. It's it's a lot to to do. But I love love stories because you see, you know, it doesn't have to be around atis romantic fifty shades of grey love. Can be all kinds of love. Yeah. And I love that. Thank you for coming in. Thanks for having me happy. Valentine downsized eight, Hugh. We will have a love story. Published on vogue dot com every day from February first fourteen including a new one by Michelle Ruis, so come check them out. Thanks.

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Rachael Ray: Up Close and Personal

Christopher Kimball's Milk Street Radio

53:32 min | 8 months ago

Rachael Ray: Up Close and Personal

"Hi, this is Christopher Kimball. Thanks for downloading this week's podcast you can go to our website one, seven, seven Milk Street Dot Com for recipes, culinary ideas from around the world or latest cookbooks. Now, here's this week's show. This is military radio PX I'm your host, Christopher. Kimball. Racer Ray made a last-minute today show appearance almost twenty years ago and was immediately signed by the Food Network and has been household name ever since as a celebrity among celebrities or like still produces awkward movements such as the time she invited her hero P- Tony Bennett, and his wife Susan over for. Dinner. I go to pull the chair out. He goes to sit down in the chair falls out from behind him and he hits his head on the marble counter. And I started screaming. In my husband who's got into the other room check on those. So BUCO. Comes Ready Oh my God, the only person calm in this whole situation is Susan. She's like Oh. He's fine. He'll pop right back up. Doing if you didn't. FIRST UPDATES my interview with Jarvis on the multi-million dollar launch of a new apple, the cosmic. Crisp. Brooke. Welcome to milk street. Hi thanks for having me. So we're about to witness the quote largest launch a produce item in American history. Yes, the cosmic Crisp Apple, which is also known as Wa- Thirty Eight which is the name under which it was developed. Now, this is a big change recently idea in the apple growing business it's value added Apple. So what's the value added apple? So. There's kind of a new generation of apples that people might have noticed in their grocery stores, things like envy or jazz or sweet tango or ludicrous they have excellent names That are apples that are proprietary managed brands. They're not something that just anybody can grow. They are often managed by. Cooperatives or companies or international consortiums that are very careful about the branding of the apple about supply and demand, and just the entire marketing a bit as a as a product in a way that. The apples. Of Not so long ago that we're familiar with including the red delicious but also things like gala or a wind sap we're not managed in that way. So years ago. There were thousands of righties, just wild apples. How would farmers or scientists? Come up with new apple varieties. What was the process? The process of breeding apples is fairly simple but what's interesting about it is that the plant doesn't breed true to the parent. So what you do is grafting instead of planting the seeds But yeah, as you say like in the nineteenth century, some counts show that in the United States growing fourteen thousand different varieties of. Apples and then the story and the twentieth century was very much standardization and consolidation here in Washington The Washington State Apple Commission used to advertise using a poster that showed stoplight and there was one apple each in red yellow and green because you know that was all you needed the way you would get a new hybrid let's say is Cross pollinate from one tree to another And then. Today's that's still how they do it or is there a more sophisticated way of? Crossbreeding. So at the The Washington State University Breeding Program. They get ten thousand new trees in a year and each and every one of them is genetically distinct and they plant the mount and give them a few years to produce fruit, and then taste that fruit and from there, go back into the lab to do lots of detailed testing on the storage in starch levels and all kinds of details on the apples that. You know appear to be. The most likely to be successful, but it's It's still very much. A melding of. Traditional Biology and Sophisticated lab work but the problem is unlike a fruit fly with a fairly short lifespan is going to take. Seven eight years to start bearing fruit for an apple tree something like that. It can be less than that. But the process is long because you WANNA have multiple generations of fruit. You know they'll start with just a few trees and as it appears that the fruit is more successful, they'll have more trees you have to wait for that generation. One of the people that I interviewed said biology is just a real problem here. which is funny because an apple, the biological product, but it is also now becoming. You know this product product of which different things are expected. A friend of mine he grows a lot of the old fashioned Fridays. And I have to say they have. Real Apple Flavor and I find the newer varieties tend to be juicy or sweet, but they don't have complex flavor is something by design. The people don't want. Sort of savviness in an apple or depth of flavour because I find the new ones are just sweet. Those a good question I may have I've certainly heard that same criticism from a lot of people including apple growers who are often frustrated by. What the consumer likes, you know the the grower will get really attached to a certain apple and think that it has a lot of depth of flavor and it's going to be really successful than it. It turns out not to be you know there there are thousands of these heirloom varieties, but supermarket is only GonNa Stock. So many commercial apple's so you have to appeal to a larger audience. So the goal is to dominate the apple industry with this one brand of apples cosmic crisp. Does this mean that people th they want people to just turn to it as they would have, let's say Mackintosh or Granny Smith is one of those. The go-to apple is that gold given the huge investment they put into the trees. The definitely want it to be a Goto Apple. What you always hear people in the industry says I don't want people going to the grocery store and on their list it's as apples on their list should say cosmic crisp and they should you know look around the store and ask the salesperson until they find it. There's one person that I interviewed who works for the Washington State. Tree. Association. Who people are always asking him which apple is going to be the next red delicious and what he always says is that you know you're sort of misunderstanding where the industry is right now that's like asking what car is going to be the next model t I think there's a general expectation that. You can't count on something dominating for very long anymore. Brooke. Thank you very much. It's been a real pleasure having a milk street. Yeah. Thanks so much for having me. Jarvis her article launch was published in the California Sunday magazine. Now, it's time for my co Sara. Moulton. I to answer your coloring questions. Sarah is, of course, the star of Sara's weeknight meals on public television as well as the author of home cooking. One one. So, before we opened the phone lines I, just have a question. You cooked lot to leap French restaurant in New, York City Manhattan. What is it that you did there that you've never done again like a cooking technique culinary trick only worked in that restaurant you've never repeated. We used to make this smoked tongue and flog raw. Pat Day. It was absolutely killer and I don't think I will ever make that. Again you know you would poach the tongue with all sorts of Sally Darwood, poach it, and then we'd slice it on a meat slicer paper thin and it was my job to layer the fog Gras Mousse in between the layers, it was absolutely killer. So that was a unique technique of Sally's I. Don't think I will ever seen anywhere else and I certainly will never do it again. Well, I think in the next issue mostly will do tongue moose. Ahead, you could do chicken liver Mousse excellent idea just will keep that in mind. Thank you Sarah Yeah take call. Yes. Welcome to MILL STREET WHO'S CALLING Hi this is Sylvia from Brooklyn how are you? Oh, Hi Sylvia from Brooklyn Well, how can we help you today? I have two girls they're eight and five and I pack them school lunches every and I just need some. New Ideas for a school lunches but we have some restrictions. I can't serve an eat meat or chicken where they go through kosher school. So it needs to be dairy or PARV. which. Means neutral. This school is peanut free not free incessantly free. Well deal. Okay. What do you got for me? What did they usually like and what would have been hits I send them Bento boxes and everything that they eat is room temperature because there's no way to heat it right so I make them mini quiche as I mean some small individual pizzas. Like mini bagels with avocados spread but I need stuff that's filling and healthy. Well. How about like some Veggie meatballs that you dip in tomato sauce that has been a winner how about more of a Savory Pancake Zucchini, lot car or? With other vegetables in it, I wouldn't even after heat those up, I could just put them in the box streep exactly. Mike is as you like grain bowls. Rain whatever you want is the base and then put whatever you want with it. Especially do that. Have five compartments put green and the biggest. And the components in the other you could do Tortilla roll ups. Wiz A. Vegetable filling. The problem is those are GonNa get soggy though careful the other thing you can do is just a very, very thin omelette and have that be the role do as Spanish size here, which is made an Saute Pan. It's just very thick omelet with potatoes in it but you. Mostly potatoes and eggs. No I don't think that would freeze. So well, it only takes to make things in muffin costs and SMART that's smart cake in the Chin No that smart you've tried all sorts of whole grain muffins with all sorts of healthy things in them. So I've tried it and they complain their still hungry. How about smoke salmon do they eat locks? They love locks could you do roll up school because it smells? them how `Bout like? Pasta for Totta where you add pasta. Bake. that. Oh, you forty four you've you've really I if you written a book about this, almost I think you should do. That's a great book. For. Datta, in the petito Prada are good options. I'M GONNA, try small mouth and freeze them to see. You can make a thick multi grain fruit bar thing those are wonderful and you just make a whole tray of those and those last long time. How about F- lawful I mean you can make. The chickpea batter for. Takes. Chick peas you don't have to use Tahini. So you could scoop it out, fry it and then freeze it. How about with Garlic Yogurt dip that I could try yoga it's got some protein and yes, it does I just had an idea although there probably not kosher those rice paper wrappers because you can stuff those with vegetables and maybe even Tofu. Till. Like baked marinated Tofu and the Vermicelli noodles and. Great Carrots and Zucchini Yeah. That were sleeping. Are you a professional chef yes. I knew it i. knew what I like everything we mentioned. Already, she's like been there. You're okay. Thank you I'm GonNa. Let you. Pleased to. You so much. We learn more than you did thanks for calling. Take Care? I by. Welcome Milk Street WHO's calling? Hi this is Mike From Land Lakes Florida. How can we help you have a question about Cutting vegetables. Okay. Years Ago I had a visit to the doctor about my hand earning. Can. The doctor Said had arthritis? He gave me some sort of a topical treatment or shot or something that fixed it for a while. But now I notice when I'm doing something intensive like cutting a bunch of vegetables. My hands start to hurt. I figured out to use the food processor since it was sitting there on the counter. And that works pretty well for the most part. But I some questions about cutting at the onions. The first time I tried to chop up onions and the food processor I ended up with effectively an. Onion smoothie. Flick slushing there. And we noticed when we're eating whatever we cook that it had a very funky. Tanny. Didn't belong there flavor to it. So I converted from the blade in the bottom of the processor to the blade and the top of the food processor chop some rather than grinds into a smooth. And then I started pouring off that excess onion juice. And that seems to help. Quite, a bit improve the flavor. What's the deal with that onion juice stuff and what is it causing things to to come out pace them? Poorly, the more you breakdown garlic or onion. There's enzyme activity release compounds, and you're absolutely right onion juice if you process an who. Does. Have bitter compounds and that's been actually studied in a lab now. I- oddly enough make a tomato sauce grated onion. Which I really love but the greatest onion doesn't really release that much choose. So it's the juice juice sits around gets bidder. I do have a suggestion for you though about chopping vegetables, the Japanese vegetable knives are thinner blades sharper and they also have handled that I think are easier. They have octogonal handles as traditional. Japanese knife. And when they chop vegetables, they slice them that you know they slice through them. They don't chop the way the French too. So if you've got a good Japanese knife, it's vegetable knife like an Ecurie which looks like a Chinese cleaver except it's only two inches high. I Find I use those nice for vegetables and my hands don't hurt and it's much much less work. That's one thing. But you're right the juice. Juice is not a friend if you don't like bitter taste, well, the more that you chop an onion or rough it up the more you develop those compounds. Lies Thing I've found I almost never finely chopped onion anymore. You can coarsely chop on your for most recipes, soups and Stews, and that sort of thing. So. I trained in the French method which everything has to be exact and the Brune was the sun and the other thing they're very recipes. You need a very fine dice. So for most recipes, of course, chop is fine and that's much less work Sarah. Kim depends on how long it's in the recipe if you're doing a quick saute. Onions then it's just fine but not in recipes, of course, shop is fine. So anyway, thank you for calling. Okay, mic. Easier. Yes. Thank you. Okay. This is most your radio. If you have a cooking question, please give us a ring eight, five, five, four, two, six, nine, eight, four, three, that's eight, five, five, four, two, six, nine, eight, four, three or emails set questions and Milky Radio. Dot Com. Welcome to milk street WHO's calling? Sandy, Hi Sandy, where are you calling from? I'm calling from Palm Harbor. Florida. What can we help you with today? Thank you so much for taking my call. I just admire you both so much and I'm just really grateful that you do this to give the opportunity to ask these questions. So thank you so much. Well, thank you for having a question. Yeah. My question has to do with garlic always been told that you're supposed to never cook garlic at a high heat. So you don't burn it and get a bitter taste I come across so many recipes off the top of my head there's. Certain sheet pan recipe where they're trying to mix everything with garlic, and then you're blasting it and a high heat in the oven and I'm just wondering, is there a way to cook garlic on a higher heat without? Getting better, we'll let me ask a question in this particular recipe was the garlic whole cloves wasn't minced wasn't sliced while. Minced Oh doesn't sounds that doesn't sound like a good idea. I agree with your gut, what was tossed with what protein like chicken or I would guess it would be chicken. That's normally what it is. I'm that type of recipe GonNa Cook It. Yeah. Well, then I would think the GORLIC would burn by the time the chicken was done I mean if you'd said whole cloves and let's say they were sort of talked underneath the chicken or something probably they would have survived the ordeal but generally I don't Cook garlic at high I'm with you. I usually started you know she'd pin you can't help it or I might add it later to the sheet pan. Add things to the sheet pan in stages. There's no you know rule that you have to put it all in at once all the vegetables. All right now we have a recipe we call it trae baked chicken. It's its name we got from Nigel. Lawson. You put chicken parts on a baking tray and put garlic whole cloves pil-ho close in the middle with some herbs and stuff, and you can roast it along with a chicken he won't burn. Roasting a whole garlic it'll get a nice buttery creamy leave at in the skin or take it out of the skin. It's totally peeled close. Okay. Is Not a whole head and then when you take the chicken off, you add some water to the pan a few herbs, lemon juice, and you can actually whisk it on the pan with the chicken juices and it makes a wonderful sauce. So as long as the clove is whole, you're okay. But once you mincy, you're absolutely right do not WANNA use high heat in general high heat. In garlic's a bad idea. Yeah, I agree yeah. Okay. Oh that's a great idea that sounds delicious that sauce with the garlic and the lemon and so forth, I'll have to try that and just keep my garlic. Oh Yeah and and the great thing is those juices exude from the chicken as you bake it that's the basis of your sauce in all can be done on the sheep panic it's simple and it's great. Great Well Sandy thanks for calling. Thank you so much. Take Care bye-bye. You're listening to milk street radio next, it's Rachel Ray that's coming up right after this break. We spend one third of our lives asleep in bed. So the choice of mattresses well important and we all know that sleeping temperature is critical and the couples of course rarely agree on what the temperature to be. 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A star is born she filled in as a last-minute guest on the today show almost twenty years ago driving through four feet of snow to get to New York for segment without roker food network executives saw loved it immediately signed her on and the rest is, of course history. Her latest Book Rich Array Fifty tells her story through autobiography and recipes. Rachel Ray Wilkins Milk Street thank you your new book which I love has a little thing in it and you say quote I'm a waitress at heart. And that sort of stopped me for a second. So what exactly did you mean by that? So my mom worked in restaurants for sixty years and my first memories in life are being on her hip in restaurants. So I don't know if it's part of my DNA but certainly the way I was raised it's very ingrained in me. Pleasing people feels good and it's part of my role. On the planet I. Like to give people what they're expecting into surprise them by surpassing that. and to me, that's that's what a good server does. So when I say I'm a waitress, I take that seriously and I think it's a compliment to be a very good server. It means that you are being compassionate to the people in your community were in the room. And it's it's my motivation. You also said your mother used declares as a pressure valve. That's the first time I've heard something like oh Yeah well, and you could also use it to. See how bad the situation was going to go for you. If my mother was a little upset with one of the three of us. First of all, if my mother is upset with one of her children, she's upset with all three of them. It doesn't matter the age when my brother was a baby. If my sister myself did something wrong all three of us were rotten children. Like she has to keep it even. and. You could tell how bad whatever the thing was that we did based on how large the box from the bakery one eclair you know okay it's not gonna be pleasant but in half an hour, we'll all be laughing and in our it'll be forgotten and we'll all be eating spaghetti. ANYTHING OVER TWO We were petrified. My mom used declares to. To commerce down, she loved pastry cream in dark chocolate and it's very funny. I don't love to bake. But one thing I learned how to master beautifully federal how to make my mother airs. For any situation that I deem necessary or just for her birthday or mother's Day. Learned quickly. Let's just do a quick recap of some of the highlights of your career. You were started out with the today show appearance now roker doing snowstorm, and then soon after the food network snapped you up, I didn't know this. You said that during the taping of your pilot on Emerald set. You started a small fire. was actually quite a large five I I it was like a good six seven foot flame at. But they still you on and say quote the brass there had faith and hired me even despite the fire. That's good. They took it really well, that's what happened was I was so nervous I just kept asking questions and I've never worked with any sort of assistance whatsoever. So the pre pro team had been pre heating my pan for like an hour and I had no idea. Of course, the second I put oil into the Pan Hoesch. Huge flame shoots up. and. They told me don't stop the camera that's not your job not for any reason. So I'm chuck in salt in throwing sheep in trying to save every set and I'm like shortest careers food network history. While I I think I told you but I did start a fire on the today show so. They did have. that. That's great. TV you had a great story in your book a state dinner visit at the white. House God which was. kind of disastrous or near disastrous. I'm only comfortable telling stories about myself that make people laugh or make them understand that we're all human in life never gets easier less. Than, your most awkward Dane, High School. This state dinner, I love the Obamas very much a known them since well before they were in the White, house. And Mrs Obama Michelle, Obama's initiatives were very closely aligned with my own improving the quality of school food in a radical hunger and lowering childhood obesity rates. So we get invited to the last state dinner at the White House. and. I picked address that I thought was great. It was October unfortunately it was unseasonably warm. It. was in the mid eighties and I was wearing a dress with a black turtleneck attached to the skirt and had no other choice. But to wear these giant. Autumnal ballgown with many many layers so I was melting. And a river runs through it like just sweat. Everywhere thank God. Is At least black, my hair. Fell within like three minutes and it was hours before you. There's all these lines you have to go through security. And I'm walking up the steps. And Shove my shoe I'm very bad walking in high heels through the underpinnings of the dress and it gets the giant. He'll gets all tangled and caught up in it and start to panic and I make it worse. So it ends up looking like almost like a wasp's nest or Hornets nest wrapped around my right foot. It was so bad by the time I got myself to the check in desk. The woman behind the desk had to literally go to an office, take scissors and come out while the people are getting checked in and I'm the entry way of the White House and they are cutting my dress apart that I probably haven't even paid for yet. They're cutting the dress off of my shoe so that I can continue to walk. So that has. got. A couple hours later, we finally are in the big room and everybody's finally sitting down to the big state dinner they walk us over to our seats. I'm seated at the head table next to the first lady. And I'm trying to whisper to her girlfriend to girlfriend a little bit of what happened and she's like, no pity for me this dress weighs twenty pounds. You also your story almost killed Tony. Bennett won't evening who was off and he told me I could tell people as long as I made sure to make it clear. It was completely my fault. And I'm such an enormous Tony Bennett fan my whole life I have a talk show and I get to meet Tony Bennett like I just couldn't believe it was even happening. And then he and his lovely wife Susan said, why don't we all get together some night and have dinner so they come over I'm feeding. Tony Bennett I'm so excited like this is such a big deal. I have my floors Polish for the first time ever because I live with a sixty five pound pit bull. So why bother making the floors extra shiny she scratches him up all day. And I have the orders in the champagne in one room on these hardwood floors. And in the opposite room. I'm setting the table. For, our dinner. So I take Tony Bennett up to the other room and Susan. My husband pours them their bubbly and I'm explaining all the snacks and Tony. It looks like he's looking around for a cherry wants to sit down. So He's holding his his she advantage exists. If I go to pull the chair out, he goes to sit down in it. The chair falls out from behind him and he hits his head on the Marble, counter? And drops to the floor and I start screaming. In my husband who's gone into the other room to check on. US. So BUCO. Comes running Oh. My God. The only person common. This whole situation is Susan she's like Oh. He's fine. He'll pop right back up. And If. He didn't. He ate more than everybody. He laughed he shook it right off he popped right up. I Love Tony Bennett and we've been great friends for many years and I'm really grateful I didn't kill him. Also, talk about being at your home seth like George and you talk This is my favorite one of the book quote I iron all the pillowcases and talk sheets. Now, you don't like ironing but I mean, that's I dislike it. I don't think anybody my households ever Irish she but my point being that you you feed the people you cook, you do the cleaning you don't live the lifestyle someone might think you do when you're not on the show. I like that work. and. It's always made me feel very happy. It makes my home feel like just that my home I don't want to look perfect I just wanted to look welcoming. And I like. The discipline of ironing, I don't enjoy ironing itself. I don't like hot in the steam comes up in your face and it is monotonous. It freaks the dog out. She's like the his esteem but iron because it feels good when I'm done and they make a bed with nice pillowcases and it, you just can't wait to get into it. You know like it's a big pile of fall leaves or something I love that feeling. So in order to get that feeling, you have to do the job. You mentioned your notebooks a lot. 'cause you. You use them constantly and you were quite miffed I think is the right word when the New York Times said that you didn't write your cookbooks but. Yet. It was all oil there in your notebook. The. New. York Times fees. They asked me what I think about food stylus. I said I. Love Them. My friend West makes things messy for me does all my books because if I can't be there cooking and I wanted to look like I did it that doesn't mean that I let other people right. Might my books and things for me? West. It actually writes some beautiful gluten free desserts for me but because I hate gluten free and I hate to bake and he got proper credit. In and that was just like Okay. That kind of stinks people don't think that I put the work in but I think we misconstrued each other. are a person who believes deeply kindness and yet in the last twenty years the world from my perspective seems a little less kind maybe social media, maybe the the press in general How do you reconcile that because kindness is important to you. You can only pay attention to the positive. My grandfather taught me as a little girl. And I always think lesser of people that come to me and say things just to be provocative or perpetuate negative feelings between people I just don't understand the purpose of that. Not Everybody's GonNa like everybody on the playground there was a whole website called I hate Rachel Ray for years, and they were devoted watchers viewers. Great. Not Everybody's going to like you and that's okay by me. Of course I vent when I go home, end the day to my husband to my dog. And you get it out of your system. You'll let go I really do believe. That The love you give is equal to the love you take I mean you you have to put good out to receive good back. Well, I don't. Think I know anybody who's putting more good out there than you. Thank you. My friend. Thank you. That means a lot. Rachel thank you for being in Milk Street it's a pleasure having you. It's an honor. It really is. That was Rachel Ray. Her latest book is Ray Fifty, memories and meals from sweet and savory life. Rachel Ray just turned fifty and so is Jennifer Aniston Jennifer Lopez Edward Norton and check black of course none of them look fifty. Maybe that's why celebrities celebrities who just turned seventy include Meryl Streep Richard. Gere. Bruce. SPRINGSTEEN and Jeff Bridges. They also dome their age and by the way, an amazing number of celebrities have lived to be one hundred including oper Berlin and George Burns. So to live long, you don't have to eat well or exercise. You just have to celebrity fame fortune and a long life some people just have it all. This time to chat with James Hirsch. About this recipe fresh with herbs and Pechory. Jam How are you? I'm doing great. Is Usual. You've been on the road I have. You just got back from Sardenia which is sort of the more rustic. That's possible version of Sicily. Traveled, very much. So it's an island off the western coast of Italy and fascinating part about. So Jimmy is that the cuisine evolved despite not because of the sea seafood around it. Many centuries been vader's drove the local population inland where they're cuisine evolved based on grains and produce and meat and dairy, and so seafood is actually only recent contribution to the cuisine. Going to the Carribean, you get fresh fish. Sounds familiar. You. Can come back with a Fisher's now I came back with the. Recipes. Let's start. What is art prego is simply the easiest pasta make at home I couldn't believe it. It's it's little nuggets pellets of Pasta that are made very similar couscous. Actually the difference between Prego and couscous is that after the fragrance is dried, it's then toasted. And that means that when you cook, it has a very chewy tender meaty texture and in addition to that, and this technique that we love it milk street frankly is almost always cooked in the sauce and so it absorbs so much more flavor than a typical possum boil in water. You made the mistake of mentioning couscous I, Remember Paula Wolford's first book back in the seventies you took three days to make. And now you said the simplest pasta. So why is it so simple to me? You can make it in about five or ten minutes like actual hands on time and you need no special equipment at all you take a bowl, you take your semolina flour. In the bowl you sprinkle some water in it and you rub your fingers around in kind of a circular motion and it clumps together. That's it. That's regular or you can buy it or you could buy it. Yes, and actually we give a cheat because semolina flour is a little hard to find. In the US if you don't feel like making your own even though it is very simple, you can actually buy the Pearl couscous and toast it yourself. It's very similar to real fragment. So what did you do with it? So I had any number of ways and believe it or not there is a seafood at the more authentic. is actually based on fresh herbs, tons and tons of fresh herbs, a little grandchild and what was really fascinating. Is Pork Gel yes. Exactly. Although we use pen chatter because it's a little bit easier to find here and what was fascinating to me is that they cooked it much in the style of a risotto they've put the fraudulent. With these other ingredients and they keep adding liquid and they keep starring in, keep adding liquid and keep storing, and eventually those little nuggets are plump and Chewy and tender earn little bit media and really flavorful because again, those other ingredients have cooked into the fray. Me When you travel through. Let's say Europe. They're still all these recipes that we don't really know hero. It's you'd think by now we would have sort of run the gamut, right but this is fresh with herbs and Peck Arena the recipe is something I've never really had before you go into these little villages and every time you turn around there's something we've never seen before never heard of that is just commonplace there. So thank you you went to Sardinia came back with the recipe for freckle with herbs and Pecker Reno can make it yourself or use Pearl couscous. Thank you Jim. Thank. You. You can get this recipe for regular with herbs and Peck Arena at one seven, seven street dot com. 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I highly recommend you check it out get unlimited access to every masterclass. In Milk street listener you get fifteen percent off an annual membership go to masterclass dot com slash milk that's masterclass dot com slash M I L K for fifteen percent off masterclass. This is mostly radio I'm Christopher Kimball nextstep Sarah Multi will be taking more of your culinary questions. Welcome to milk street who is on the line. Hi. This is Allison Allison where you calling from. Idaho Oh. Nice. How can we help you today? Okay. So I have a question. We have some friends who are Romanian and they had a dinner party and they served traditional though vegetarian version of the stuffed cabbage rolls and They were totally different than any other. Cabbage rolls that I've ever had and they told me that they usually pickle or do something with their whole cabbage heads and I'd never heard of that before and thought it was really cool and I thought well, that would be really fun to try and make but it's really hard to find pickled cabbage heads and I thought well, I, wonder if I could put in. Our crowd or something to kind of mimic just that little bit of a tango with them. But I couldn't find anything online that would answer that question. So I thought I would ask you guys. Well, let me ask a question. So for these stuffed cabbage rolls was the cabbage itself pickled the role part that had the stuffing in it I mean, where was the pickled cabbage? They, take the whole cabbage head and they core it out and they put it in a brine in there like they did it themselves in buckets, and then they let it pickle like in a cool place like in a garage or something like that. The whole cabbage head is pickled and then they roll the filling and then I, think they actually cook there's over a fire 'cause there's a little bit of that smoky. Hint to it okay and then the stuffing, what are they used for the stuffing you know I don't know I'm assuming that it was some type you know how there's like the beyond Meat Bernard. And rice in it to okay. The unique flavor was that cabbage Habich because it was just a little bit pickled and it was so good. This kind of cabbage dishes like Bosnian Croatian Serbian Bulgarian sort of thing that there was this website called Balkan fresh. So I would check that out because it sounds like you don't WanNa make your own Chris is at the sort of thing you would make a whole there. Two ways to pickle one is fermentation, which is salt and water, and that's what they're doing here. They're taking heads of cabbage putting a barrel putting some seasonings if you like obviously Brian. Submerged covering was weights and letting it sit usually it's thirty to forty minutes a lot of work and it's well, if you did Arab panic cabbage heads, you be the game but you can also pickle overnight, which is sugar water and salt and flavourings, and that's only you wouldn't do a whole cap. De Leaves and you can do that overnight and that would pickle the catch. Them and then put them in that mixture or would you just put them that mixture raw? Well, if you're going to wrap into cabbage rolls stuffed cabbage, he would not blanche a I. I don't think I would just let it sit in the sit in the mixture. Yeah, and then The next. That's an interesting idea. I-. Sauerkraut won't work because it's already shredded I think actually I'm going to buy some heads a cabinet I think the idea of doing whole heads of cabbage that are cord is real simple. You just need a big barrel and throwing some chilies and some chilies would be juniper but you know it's Okay Chris? You Go. So you're GONNA, do some homework and you're to. Four next time we record or bringing you. pickled cabbage. But in the meanwhile, Alison, I would go for his quick pickle or go check out. Balkan fresh and see if they have the frozen. Sour cabbage head either you do if you do it just make sure it's fully submerged and keep in a cool dry place. Yes. Okay. All right. Take care. All right. Yes L. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome to milk street WHO's calling? This is Patricia some self. Patricia from Philadelphia. What can we do for you? Today I have some yeast questions. So concerns, instant east versus regular east. Right. Normally I always have regular east around and then I read this recipe that looks interesting and it's calling for instance. My first question is, why does that recipe rider ever choose instant yeast and that sounds stupid I know it's like Duh because it's faster. But my second question is if I ran across one of these recipes and all I have at home is the regular? Is there some sort of algorithm of you know using a little more giving it more time that would allow me to substitute regular for the instant? Yes. Cool. We can answer all of your. Most of your questions. First of all regular active yeast has a lot of dead yeast cells around the outside of the granules, and that's why you have to prove it I in some warm water to activate. Because otherwise, it'll take too long. The reason people call for instant a rapid rise is those dead yeast cells are not on the outside, and therefore, you can actually just add the yeast directly to the flower that dry ingredients you don't even have to prove it. So it just. Moves that step. So that's why people call for secondly. Substitute active drive for instance, Easter vice versa one for one. Yeah. It's not a problem for. But active dry. You need ten minutes of three proofing in one hundred and ten or twenty degree water not hotter than that but you can use it for one. It's not a problem it may take a little longer. Bread to rise a little extra, maybe twenty percent twenty, five percent, but it'll be. Fat is such good news because I hate looking at a recipe and thinking Oh, but I was gonna go by the rapid rise fool. You know once you run out of your supply of active dry yeast, you might WANNA consider getting from King. Arthur. Flower. Their Label SAF which is the instant yeast and they tell you to just keep it in the freezer and then you just got it all the time you save money you don't buy those little packages. It has Chris said more little granules of yeast that are alive than the active dry yeast. Great. Okay. I'll go get that to thank you so much. Thanks for letting me talk to you. And I love this section of the show the best of all of course, it's the best what Chris does without just useless I know. Thanks for calling. Thank you very much. By. This is radio. Now it's time for one of our listeners who will reveal their best culinary hack. Hi, my name is Hannah and I'm calling with the cooking stiff about baking when I'm baking a generally leg her place, some of the dairy or some of the oil with either Sour Cream or yogurt. And then I like to add half a teaspoon extra of baking soda and it makes it really more a little bit. And always also gives a good rise. To share your cooking tips, military radio, please go to one seven, seven milks dot com slash radio tips. Next up. Let's hear from regular contributor. Dr Aaron Carroll. Dr Aaron Carroll. Welcome back to Milk Street always a pleasure and what is on your mind this week. I thought we might talk about chocolate and now it's not nearly the health food that a lot of recent media has made it out to be. Boy Really. Well. It's so funny because I feel like most of the time I come on to try to tell us that stuff that the media is trying to scare us out of is in his as bad as they say in this case and fortunately I'm here to talk down the other direction to say it's not as good as they're saying I mean come on it's chocolate. It's candy. It's not healthy. Well okay. But my wife's a health nut and from time to time investigate the pantry right to see what strange things she's bought recently and the Chia seeds. Kick counties, right so those are very much part of the sort of wellness diet, right kick cow. So I mean, first of all, it's important to understand that what literature medical literature it exists is often looking at specific component specifically cocoa flavonoids, and there have been some studies which show that if you get a certain dose of cocoa flavonoids did it might lead to slate reductions in blood pressure because they have an effect on blood vessels like nitrates do, and we often hear people get treated with nitrates when they have a heart attack opens blood vessels, it allows. For more blood to get where you need it to be, and that will also lower blood pressure. But if you if you look at sort of the dose in some of these studies, you'd have to eat about four and a half ounces of dark chocolate to get that dose of flavonoids. Seven hundred, fifty calories. If you're eating milk chocolate, you'd have to consume about forty ounces or about fifty eight hundred calories in order to get the dose that's not healthy. But so much of the research that has been done. To promote chocolate has been funded by the chocolate industry. There's like the Mars Center for Nutritional Studies I mean, I'm butchering the name a little bit, but it's along those lines. The vast majority of research is done by industry, and almost all of it is positive which leads us to believe that they're probably publishing the positive studies and burying the negative studies because of course, that's how research works. Almost nothing is universally positive in that way. So let let me stop you for a second. So when the industry does these studies which they all do. They do let's say they do twenty studies. Twelve of them are not. Supportive of their product and those get dumped in the circular file somewhere. In the eight that actually shows some promise support get sent out on the PR news wire. And we see this with pharmaceuticals and drugs. This isn't just the food industry that's guilty of this but at least studies of drugs have to be registered with the FDA. So we can go in and look at which studies do and do not get published with respect to studies funded by the Mars Center for Coco Health Science we have no idea how many studies they've done and then which they. Actually, choose to publish or not. But when we see almost all or all of them as being positive, you start to question things. We've also seen lots of evidence that they will do what we called outcome switching where they will initially say that they are they were looking for one thing let's say low blood pressure but then when that doesn't turn out to be positive, they look at other things. To try to find something that turns positive maybe mood, and then they'll publish just mood study, and of course, if you check enough things, you will find something to be positive. There was a journalist just a couple of years ago who actually conducted a fake study of chocolate in an effort to show how this could be done. So he he rounded up some people he got half of them to. Take chocolate or flannels and half of them not to then they did tons and tons of statistics to try to find one thing that turned out positive. Then they published it in a predatory journal they sent out press releases all over the country over the world for that matter, you know about how they showed the chocolate improves memories and news media all over the world picked it up ran with this. They actually covered and said, chocolate has been proven to do this. And the guy was just sitting I. Don't think he even thought it would go this far and then something like a year later he actually came out and talked about it, and of course, lots of people went got very angry and said, that's bake science you're destroying science but. They actually use the same and techniques that a lot of these companies and scientists will to try to find positive associations or positive outcomes to promote an agenda rather than looking at at true science. So so you would you'd have a control group and irregular group. One of them we get the chocolate or flavonoids one wouldn't, and then you'd measure let's say twenty different health aspects, mood, etc among these groups and if a measure that number of variables you're bound to find one or two that occurred in the group eating the chocolate versus the group that didn't right. That's exactly correct and so that's exactly what they did and they did it over and if you just published on the one positive results, this epson, all kinds of food studies pick almost any outcome you can think of you can probably find a chocolate study. Which shows that that it really will work but chocolate is candy and wallet. It's okay to have once in a while and I'm not going to demonize in that respect. No one should be under the illusion that chocolate especially as you eat it, not not some of the ingredients in there. But chocolate as you consume, it is going to be something that's going to help you more than it's going to hurt you. Of course you know it's always nice for mood and it makes people happy and if it's desert, that's great but it's not a health food. So in other words, you have to eat so much chocolate to get any potential benefit that should be eating. You know a thousand calories of chocolate get enough flame nor. So, the answer is each chocolate, it may make you happy but it's not going to necessarily make you any healthier correct and treated just like it is it's something extra it's desert it's chocolate it's not health food the next time please come back and tell me why bourbon good for me. Okay. I will do that absolutely I promise actor Carol thank you so much. Thank you. That was Dr Eric Carolis. The professor of Pediatrics at Indiana. School of Medicine also a regular contributor to the New York Times upshot, com. Earlier. 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Reacting to Coach K's Comments; Former Wash. St. Guard Taylor Rochestie on his Grind, Tony Bennett Influence, Recruiting Klay Thompson, 10-year Int'l Pro Career

All Ball with Doug Gottlieb

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Reacting to Coach K's Comments; Former Wash. St. Guard Taylor Rochestie on his Grind, Tony Bennett Influence, Recruiting Klay Thompson, 10-year Int'l Pro Career

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They walk them into the newest all ball. Boy doug godly and i've been promising thoughts on nba and thoughts on college basketball. Only say this about the back and forth now with mike chefs ski saying we should pause for a second and he didn't say we should not be playing. Let's be honest about my chefs. He he did not say we should take month break. We should he just said. Let's get our bearings here. And of course you got coaches like nato. It's and i got beyond with the said the same to others saying out as he's nate's alabama's head coach he's been on the elbow. Podcast you should listen to his life story. It's pretty amazing. But he's like liquid would makes chef ski had lost to non conference home games. Be saying we should take a break of course not but this is my stance with football. This is my stance of basque. First of all to the idea that i've heard jay bilas say this and it's a i don't like when things are misrepresented. I understand that jay and many of you believe that college basketball players should be paid. My argument is was has always been the scholar the entrance to college the scholarship the support the not just the gear. The coaching all of that stuff. You have a kid. You have a child if you do you play in a basketball kay. Now add on top strength. Coach trainer dietitian booed room board. How much would you be paying a month for your kid. And that's i even the highest level. You're talking about the best of the best of the best frigging expensive right now. Painting those fees bless you know paying for college. And you're getting the free promotion of dick vitale and jay. Bilas and myself and steve lavancy. Great these guys are. There's a value in all of that plus getting into school. You probably couldn't get into on your own. So i believe that it is you are being compensated fairly so maybe even above your actual level of importance most people reading well more. It's much better deal than anybody be you credit but this idea that college athletes because they're on campus by themselves and in some sort of bubble now is something new and different that is in fact. Bullshit that is the epitome of bullshit. Every year thanksgiving break christmas break Martin luther king junior break spring. Break if you're still playing your campus by yourself yet per diem when the when stuff's not open so you get a little extra money And you're you're practicing. You're playing your hang around. It's actually in many ways the best time to be on a college campus. 'cause you don't have the nuisance of traffic raining. You just go to work out you go back to your place you can hang out with your boys. You get shots up. Whenever college towns usually empty so this idea that somehow this is something new and different sure the testing and the need to to quarantine and not go out mingle and good parties like okay but the fact is the idea that we're here by ourselves is somehow new different. That's bullshit anybody's ever played basketball. Knows that's bullshit you round all christmas break. Nobody's around show i and you're safer at home. You're safer there than you are at home at home. You don't have a trainer. You don't have kobe tests you know and this is not going home and sitting in a room and doing going home and hang out with your boys and go into jimmy. Getting shots up. You're better off your safer on campus. Continue on some gone through the protocols. And we'll be fine i don't i. I agree with mike chefs. You we should take a breath and make sure we're doing the right thing but when we do take a breath will realize were safer very normal for this time of year to be on campus by yourself and within reason you play as many games as you can. That's where the funnest are the practices words. Don all right. Let me get you to To taylor rochester. He was a very talented guard at washington. State his path getting to wash state via two lane Growing up in santa barbara is interesting in and of itself. We'll get to that. We'll get to tony bennett. Dick bennett was like to be a part of the. I team that tony bennett coached at wazoo. And whether or not he surprised level success that virginia has had. But i also want to ask about playing overseas unbelievable experiences. Had the big clubs that he's played for as a guy who was very lightly. Recruited becoming kind of superstar in euro hoops his entire career and then he is a book that set to come out way. T hear his tail here. He is star guard. Formerly of washington state originally from santa barbara. California taylor rochester. Be sure to catch the live edition of the doug. Gottlieb show weekdays at three pm eastern noon pacific on fox sports radio in the iheartradio app for gender perspective. You're in belgrade playing for red star fans near us. Here's a couple hundred fans That they're allowing right now. Mostly scouts people involved in the organizations. But when you're used to having they haven't arena here that's twenty two thousand and they pack it out and it's crazy european soccer light fans with flares in gym now to play in an empty arena. Where you can hear the defensive you know called out play. A plays in plans from the coaches is a whole different atmosphere. But you have to remember that no. Hundreds of thousands of fans are watching on. Tv's so they're still just as intense there does not okay. We're going to get back to your illegally. gets your travels. Let's start where it all began. Santa barbara california right really tough. Hard streets of santa barbara california you think. Gang shootings graffiti everywhere. Your first memories of hooper's where will the the interesting thing about that. Is that when you think about tough upbringings when it comes to basketball. That's not easy place to to grow because to get to get noticed. I mean you have to go into. La gotta go to las vegas. You've got to go to the tournaments. You gotta go east coast. There's not a lot of scouts in a lot. Not a lot of players. Coming out of santa barbara all all their good talent. But i grew up in a little bit texas born in houston And sizes love basketball. And i love houston rockets growing up. My dad actually worked in the building of the old summit. We go over watch. Washington games after school My mom and dad would be there and so coming to santa barbara. I just always had a feel for basketball and new. That's what i wanted to do. I graduated a six graded. They made a little video what we wanted to do. We're in now older. And i said i'm going to play division one basketball and then i'm gonna go play basketball overseas or in australia. And that was that was sixth grade. And i didn't even know about the league's never seen a game. Never anything. But i just knew that i wanna play basketball and i wanted to travel the world and so i had this vision when i was younger. And just kinda came to fruition. That's craz- High school like high school was amazing. I mean i had a blessed blessed upbringing. I had a older brother. That's alex basically my best friend He was a senior. When i was a freshman so i had really amazing transition into school Or he kind of took me under his wing and his friends were there and so that was kind of a jock Had friends that someplace or some did place for santa. Barbara's an amazing place to to grow up in call home and read by the beach. I mean there's not much else. You could say everything. You need ever end up. Basketballs great had great coaches and was fortunate enough to with some of my friends. And i have a great team what i remember is i remember my dad. Talk at bob. Wish you play for my dad. How many summers Two or three summers. Yeah branch You my dad at my dad was like craziest thing. Bob williams kid from santa barbara and it did not scholarship and he just he. He couldn't hitting part of him was mad because he was a good guy. Like bob like there's no bad feelings. Whatever you just couldn't. Why do you think it was. They didn't offer while. I think i think recruiting is one of the toughest things you can do. There's players that are good at one level or good at one situation and then who knows what they're going to be like at the next level or in a different environment. I think there's a lot of pressure to bring local kids. I think that when you look at just rob potential talent so many great players out of southern california in california area that it's difficult most hanger bringing in one guard out of everybody you now so if for two years and you might have two point guards at your school. They're out scholarships. So there's no hard feelings there. Bob and i have friends everybody. Ucsb they've always been welcoming media. Go out there and practice with the team. When i was in high school. i wanted to go there. I was in a room with him one time and there was an award ceremony where he was given us fiji now as i was thinking in my head man. I know he's gonna off scholarship. But i think one the best things was me having to leave my hometown in. Go out and try to prove myself in a different environment. I think that's what pushed me to be better. And i've always had a chip on my shoulder in. That's one of the reasons. Why still playing basketball show you You went to and as a dickerson ensure we should coach right. It was sean finney my freshman year and then dickerson gober sophomore. Okay so you it. And i think were late. Signed like we are available late. You go and you cited too late not two lanes and amazing university in amazing city but could not be any different than set of set from santa barbara. If you try right like garden district in new orleans is incredible but very very different. What do you remember about touching down here. Like i'm in. I'm in new orleans you land. It's hot as hell like what what what was that. What are your members. Will you gotta keep in mind like you said. It was the late recruiting Your dad your dad called me and said let's go to one last Tournament it was it was a houston classic or some around houston kingwood glasses or something like that and I wouldn't played well and got offered a couple of scholarships before that i was like spring my senior ice cool before that i was going on recruiting trips to d two d three so the idea of playing division one basketball. That was my goal. So i was so excited when i showed up on campus and i had different expectations. They were telling me that there was a senior point guard. That was their main guy in the. Ib learning my freshman year and come in maybe off the bench a little bit and playing my sophomore year. Within a second third game freshman year. I was i was starting had a role for myself and so it was just kind of a whirlwind that months before i didn't know i was gonna get individual scholarship and even thought about walking on in some places so so when you get there But what what was what was it actually like like what was what were the memories of like you get. 'cause they the tiny little jim i and there and you're like you introduce yourself people. You're not like a highly rated guy. You're from santa barbara. What was what was school. Like what was the experience of teammates. Like what do you remember about those first couple Finding as i remember school being tough. I mean it is one of those places you you hear this idea that. Like athletes get an easy easy route at. They really help you out. I was in a. I think it was an acting class that i must've been a bad actor but my teacher told me that if you leave even for school function you're never gonna get that knowledge back so i can't give you credit for the class. I said well. I'm going away for basketball game. And they said it didn't matter you know you have to be class. You've got to read the book you got. You got to participate so the school was definitely definitely difficult. basketball wise. It was great. Because like i said i just wanted to play division one basketball and i've never passed the looks tests. And that's part of the the hunger that i haven't. I love that. So i love showing up every day and compete so as far as basketball lies. I was just hungry to to prove that i belong and wanted to earn my scholarship. Okay so i believe. The guy's name was marcus kinser. Who's the senior partners right. Yeah i suppose was he liked to. You is like you show up. And he's the guy and you end up taking his spot. Take me through that that relationship. That relationship is actually greater than you think. It's funny that you ask. Because i showed up he was a little standoffish. Not because that was his character. Just because we just kinda move through different circles where like basketball is there but he had been there for three years. He had his own france. He had his own stuff going on. And so we didn't really communicate as much. It was a great leader. Great teammate. To have in lead by example and that it wasn't until later on that He's got his whole skill wing. Abby going on right now and he's doing a bunch of workouts in a message. Tim of years ago and actually He flew out to california to work me out and to help train for for going back out and play early as though we kept in touch with we became real close and he's an amazing trainer and just become great friends over the years so it started off as maybe more of an intimidating thing. He's the big guy on campus and then it just turned into a good friendship even when you starting ahead of her so we ended up starting together so they had like a two to guard start. What they realized is that it could be a good attack. That was a time. Where will tony bennett always talks about. Tnt he played with another guard. I was playing with derek lowe at washington. State's is kind of a two point guard system so it just Decided the two small guards work and we play well together lab. So you're playing your. I think all freshman team conference. I say i and like kind of like you made it You you go home for the summer and you come back in there katrina where you'd homing I remind me of the time of katrina. So i got into. I got back to new orleans the day before katrina or the day before we had evacuate and so i put some stuff in my apartment and they said we can't move into your apartment till tomorrow so i win state at a friend's house and i woke up and everybody was talking about being sad because we had to evacuate now had evacuated year before as freshmen we left for about a week in a mccain back at school so everybody was sad. Li got their people wanted to party. They're back at school and they didn't. They didn't think it was that big of a deal. So some people were debating whether they're gonna leave or not even if it was a mandatory evacuation so luckily my mom's live in houston at the time and so i went to my mom's apartment houston to ride out the the hurricane and little did we know We work in a combat. And so i got a call After about a week that texas anthem was going to host our team and so they moved our team in a couple of teams from to texas in south still playing for two lane but attending school at sam university which was crazy way. I know so. So what am i having been to been both campuses right like two lane is. It's almost like a museum like you like. That's what like a classic school supposed to kind of look like 'em animas classic kind of texas i. Everything is gigantic beautiful mostly brand new but but just gigantic. The on scale is so much bigger than anything else. But then you're you're living this weird existence right you go to lane you play for two lane. You go to school at unm. Where'd you guys live. So i think first of all did a great job cygnus. So i always have love for text. Santa nagy's but i think they were thinking of a breakdown certain buildings and constructing up something else and they found apartments that right off. Campus for us was our soccer team. Are volleyball team our basketball to even so they hostess all there and it was crazy for us because now we're walking forty five minutes across campus when we're used to walking five minutes across campus because everything's so in texas and Were looking up. And i was just excited to be back. Playing and fortunate that weren't any orleans I tore my knee and they told me that i be outfit. Bunch months announced sitting at a campus of a school. That i didn't choose and i'm forty five one hour a crushing my way to class and mike go just ended in front of the door making sure on time and sit in the front row and it was just a it was just a crazy experience. Okay so you toy ratio there. I thought you told it when you got to do. So what what. What was the conversation like. Now because now dave dickerson coach and so basically. What did he did the africa. I forget 'cause. I thought you guys played it. Moreland some your summary games as well university orleans again. I from the first semester was it takes sanam and so. That's the start. Dave dixon at just taken over that year and so he's a great guy great coach and he was about to take over maryland. I think you want to kind of his own pap and and got offered a job or two languages. Grace moved his family down there and within a month or so being there. Hurricane katrina happen. We get displays. We go so. He's trying to lead us in group. Blessed texas sanam so when i tore my knee there there was a big debate about what was going to happen as far as getting back to new orleans because my heart was in new orleans my heart was with tulane university but i think all the sports we're going to be using one small training room facility and there was a bunch of question marks about what was going to be open not open at her. Mold was certain buildings than you hear. These different stories said. I just figured that time that i needed to transfer find a different place that i could recover rehab and just it back playing basketball in this special episode of wind down now available on iheartradio or you get your podcast. Janet kramer gets together with her celebrity friends upcoming holiday plans. Their kids and ways. They've been surviving quarantine. Speaking christmas. i feel like things are already starting to get so messy around. 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Plus free shipping on any credit line with code. Iheart akiko dot com. That's fifty percent off your first month at k. I w i c c. dot com. Promo code iheart. Okay so as i recall it again. This is my dad's no luck with hit calling him story. Now you can pop in. I remember him saying he called tony. Tony i gotta point guard. You have to take. And i think he had you know again. Based upon his perspective he had talked tony into clay as well Had go down with you getting from two lane to santa barbara to wash state. First of all your dad was the best curve outside so he would sit. You would sit Put me on a three way call. And he would say okay. Don't don't don't anything about to call these coaches you're here you're gonna save actually so Those are the best of all time. And i think all the coke the players who are on the other end but i think it was a combination of tony. Bennett had reached out to me at high school. They didn't they didn't have scholarships and we're both smaller left point guard so maybe he saw something in me that that he added he connected that way and said you know in. What are you really say. When a lot of coach call say walk on my program in of course you want to believe that they really love you and they really want you to be there but you never really know and so. He called me when i decided to leave. I talked to your dad. And i talked to some people and he started making some calls in and when they realize i wanted to transfer now. They had a scholarship so he was talking to me. I think it was christmas day. And i'm in santa barbara the given us. You know six days off from tulane lane to go home and christmas day. I was getting a call from my two lane coach as getting a call from tony bennett. He said why don't you slide up and we can see washington state and then Dickerson was asking what my decision was. And i told him that i wouldn't be coming back. And then some sitting there with a torn knee. It's christmas time and i need. I need to find a school. And so tony bennett. Took a big chance. He flew me up to go. See a game. I had a a a southern california hoodie. And some light sweats and he flew me up to pull pullman washington Started spokane like negative ten outside. It felt like i was going to see spokane arena. Yes they win. They won the first First part of the first half via that was still dick bennett. So dick bennett was the coach and they had a great team coach. Great individuals And they were just turning the program around where you could see the difference in the game. They're playing and they add That's that's the foundation for the future. In my first year there was actually thomas first year was was there ever a thought of like the place. Oh slow is because that's not technically your style pastoral. Will i think at that time. I just wanted to play the pack. That was my. That was my goal. I i grew up with. I grew up with Usc ucla watching them on tv An opportunity to play in the pac ten and To be able to play basically at home in some of those games that everything. And i didn't really know how slow the offense was. I heard about it. But then again like i wasn't really recruited at a high school always a chip my shoulder. I wanted to james and so when they offered the scholarship. I was ready to okay so so you. It's actually crazy your squad like you go back and look because because people always say clay play with anybody like your first year you had cow weaver. Who played the league. Anghel aron baynes ella team tony's connections down in australia Your sophomore year. Coming off an acl. You don't play the whole season at. You're not eligible till semester. What what was an different place. Different style different coaching. And again this before clay arrives and you have your boy derek lows junior at the time. Okay what was always that will. The interesting thing was so i. I tore my knee at texas stadium. Than when i arrived at washington state after a little while having pain in my knee and then they told me i needed a second surgery. They said i was trying a rehab so fast that no they need to go back in and clean it out so that just leveled me. Because i was in a new place now. It's my third school I'm trying to figure out what's going on trying to work my way back on the team and so my first season playing the beginning. I don't even know if they hadn't done minute. Restriction or whatever it might have been. And i was wearing a niece and to age myself. That niece leave is very thick. It wasn't like some of the niece leaves that they have now and it just looked like i came off a surgery so it wasn't until about halfway through the season where i decided one game that takes his sleeve off and i think we're playing at on a rivalry game and it just it just kinda took over from there in about halfway through. The season went from playing small minutes off the bench to Took over my sophomore year and then it went through the end of my senior year. Aaron baynes the I'm a big supporter because Anybody that plays that hard. Just care about getting hit and we'll just do whatever the coach says it. Just run through a wall. He's one of the best screen sanders. He's one of the best Role man big man. Nice guy he's just ready to play basketball. So i always believed him he just need to find the right place at the right time in the old blocker mover offense. He is definitely a blocker. There's there's crush. how did you adjust to that style. Because look it's it is. It's good clean basketball. And once you're kind of convert to it. You're like you're all in because you know where shots come. You know you just guys you wear dudes out like no one wants to guard anybody that off. I can't imagine being in the second team in practice. Appears okay so. My first year notre dame i was i was promised does what went house. Start and first couple of weeks of practice. I plan against the motion offense which it didn't really high school and you had these gigantic dudes set me screen and it was. It was basically blocker move without. We call the to side motion. Whatever basically kind of locker room. And i remember being on the gold team gold The second team and it was the worst like they're they're working out their offense and you're just getting screened your neck. Her back hurts. And it is the worst existence on earth. I cannot imagine being tony bennett's practice and being the second that if that's what they should be in the first nothing will. I think i think part of it was. We went the years. I was playing there. We we experienced less success. And so i think when when you're going from from winning games to practice than that confidence carries over i think it would have been a little tougher. I arrived there and we're losing games. Were grinding it out. Practice going through those same block hoover but it was working in the game so we get into some drills where we gotta get like six or seven stops at ten to get out and they were just rotated the offenses in and they can do whatever they want. We had just grinding down. Play defense but you start to gain so much confidence in each other and so much pride defense that became it became fun and then as as a pass first point guard. That's how love is astros point guard in highschool hannah. Turn me into a little bit of a score. Because in high school most time the stars in highschool half the world more and so when i got back to college I was excited to just be part of the program. I was excited to be part of the team. Just try to win games and there wasn't any Type of feeling of big time players or anything. We just had a well balanced team. Everybody had a role and it just it just fit perfectly. They recruited a perfect those years. Your junior year was your is your best team right in and it's funny like most people forget klay was actually there that year. You're seeing. what what. What about that team. That team kinda came together. Really really nice identities. We had Coachman at had a slogan my sophomore year was ta and everybody thought. I had my own nike t shirt. Because taylor taylor and so it just it meant turn around year and so when he took over as head coach he had this mission that everything was going to change and we were just kind of turn this whole program around and just Adopt this mentality of winning and we had gotten to the second round of the tournament and lost I missed a game winner and went double overtime. We were playing vanderbilt the second round and so what we. We lost that game. Play at the georgetown in the sweet sixteen. We all came together that summer and we looked at each other and we just committed to the system the program to get it back to the success that we had found and it was something really unique in washington state. Only kind of have success one other time. I think it was a crazy low team during those times and so we were just committed to having that feeling again so it was just an amazing atmosphere around campus and the the desire back to the tournament was was everything so that junior year was special because we started with foundation of you know we already knew we wanted to be instead of having it be a first first year thing. And then we just kinda sought out you get to determine hammer winthrop you Hammer notre dame forty points by take on north carolina now. I don't know at the time if you knew it but famously. This is like my senior year as senior year. Two thousand and north carolina von for and for and dick bennett coach. Tony was like a manager and he'd quit playing yet here. His knee to right And famously i think after the first semi-final roy williams said like they played purdue. I think i'm trying to remember exact end. He said like that set college basketball back forty years and it was you know. North carolina likes fast. It's out they got the best players. Like danny green came off the bench. That's yuppie that team but it still was something that really stung like generally how we roll in college basketball like big benefits all time great guy all-time great coach. He's not the you know cadillacs. He's dealing with you know courts was. Do you remember like for tony. If it was there was any special. That mentioned motivation. I know you guys get your butts. Kicked in you struggled personally but was there any special motivation with that game. I think i think we came into that game and the promotion for it was clash of styles you know is just like what what styles gonna come through isn't going to be. The defense is going to be the offense. You know you hear when you play for the vent system than a quote unquote orients style of basketball. Or whatever you might feel. A lot of players are excited motivated to go play for. Act's because they play fast and score a lot of points not north carolina's always known for having exciting teams. But we were confident. What we're doing so we came into the game and we wanted to prove all of us not just the coach all the players that you know what we're doing You can get to a final four can be number. One team was tough about that year as we played at north carolina against the number one north carolina so he showed up to the practice. And there's twelve thousand people in blue you know us as we're walking up a practice so as a home game for that very difficult but we came into that game confident that we were gonna win and obviously it didn't. It didn't go our way that day. But that's part of why so amazing to watch coach now in the acc having so much success because At the end of the day his system definitely works his style. Basler definitely works and a more than one way to do it. Did you think at the time at the time that you think. It's like a national championship. I've always thought We used to joke around sand man. He could do that with us. Imagine if he has a real talent and so he got to the point where he's a. He's a top twenty team every year. Preseason postseason midseason and so that's the foundation that he's built at virginia just speaks to what he can do as a coach speaks to his system coaching staff. Everybody brings around the the quality. Claire she does she dark side as he had this he tours closed all of sudden he starts dudes and then the guy's case i've seen him at the peak and he's calm and i've seen him at the valley when they lose unbc and he has great perspective. I just and i know. I know him pretty well but i don't know miss intimately as you do as he have this. Other kenneth switch where all of a sudden. He's he's a different. The other side comes up will i. I have a saying where it's When i know who. I am not stressed about what i do. And there's a big foundation that i got from from coach bennett about the things that really matter. If you talk to you. Talk to him that basketball something that he enjoys that. He's amazing at both clare him. As a coach he has a foundation in up different. Faiths family friends and a core belief system that That gets through his day so he really has That even keel when it comes to those highs and lows because he understands he has constant perspective about life and ended. Things happen for sure. So you get home. First of all like i gotta think was who so bad for so long you go to the sweet sixteen and you'd like to have a good time. I'm guessing the police was a good time after both these terminals hours It was amazing. And what what younger players never understand is how as it is for seniors and so the seniors just a great time because they really go out on top even though we've also lost to a top seeded team and and people at the police were starting to talk about. Yeah we're going to beat north carolina so that was the excitement that we kind of builds up two years before that they wouldn't think we'd make it to the tournament and so we had build up this confidence but coach talked about. He didn't want to be a flash of pants so we were already thinking about next year. And i'm looking around my guys. We still got one more year. This is pretty fun we can do this. Get your dad head famous. Promised towing like man if you ever need a scholarship. Let me now. I'll take care. That's the again this is the the running story If you ever you. Ever tight on scholarships character nobile so your senior. Didn't you play as a wachner senior year so so this story is taken on so many different lives of its own. So what happened was I think somebody had reached out to my dad and some other people about if they wanted to give back to the program in my dad was talking to me and talking to the tony people you know like let me know the best way to get back to the program. This program has given so much. And i think tony said something jokingly about a scholarship or something like that but he would never ask Something of that nature. my dad. my dad night talked about it. And i said hey no if if it ever came down to it i give up my scholarship for the right reason and at that time i made a deal with my dad in high school. That if he didn't have to asia college that you would buy me a car and so he said hey. I don't have to pay for college a by your car. And so i i was gonna attack car i was afford. It was used for ford expedition expedition as big play like that. Amaze amaze side that car it was a two two wheel drive car in pullman washington and i lived at the top of the hill and so i realized that if i was going to give up a scholarship after a long thing avid tony came to me and said. Hey no Was you really do that. There's these two players that were looking at. We have one scholarship. I said man. I was hurt. I was in a bad place as far as physically. I really just wanted to play basketball. He took a chance on me win. Almost nobody would And i said. I'd love to give back to this program. I love washington state. I mean i'm wearing was shirt right now And at i said yet if you if you guys want to recruit those two guys. I'll give up my scholarship and i sold my car In order to help pay for my senior and so he. He told me that if he if he ever he said it. You know if somebody decides to leave the team or somebody decides to transfer something like our ship becomes back available Love back to you. And i said well if that happens it happens in. I think it was some time in the summer. One of my Ex teammate society to leave and the scholarship team back. So i never played as a walk on but right up until senior year. I was prepared to be walker. Okay so then did you get another. Yeah traded in got. I got used Dodge durango it was a little bit different Car and it had a little more miles on it but it was probably better for the snow strangle allow riley goal out. There i had. I had my. I had the same deal with my dad and my dad. He acted like he knew by cars. And you nothing about cars. And so i wanted to get like a grand cherokee laredo. I want those gps off road and so it was like all right roll. My brother's like dude. You should go get a barrel. So nineteen ninety-five Camaro super sport with like it has like a corvette edge right so he goes for a test drive at see. She was pickup right. And you're trying to not clinch it. Stand that you're basically driving a corvette. So that's what. I do around my senior high school. Which is like wow dickey's so then i thought but i signed a notre dame doesn't fit so my brother wants to car. He had little accurate tegra trades with i sell. We sell his acura. Integra chevy blazer. And saw the for mapping indiana the best chevy blazer and then when i was at oklahoma state i sold the blazer at my senior year. I had a ford truck because everybody By it's is that. What kind of car do you have. What kind of truck you have assimilated to to oklahoma culture Your first time you met klay thompson what you say Entertainment kinda hosted him. He hosted him at. I was helping them around. Campus southern california kid so immediately. I was talking about know. What do you think about it up. Here it's not that bad because people they don't people that don't in order to lose especially the come from southern california. Today donna how mazing it is especially as a college experience Into play air basketball is just truly incredible. So i just wanted to break down some of the barriers of some of the things he might thank or what people have told about glues and so he's sitting there he's got some flops. I think some some shorts flip flops and a shirt we start rebounding the ball playing and having him shoot. Somebody team may not throwing the ball. He was at the top of the key. Now keep in mind. He's a high school kid used to high school three and so he's sitting there shooting college threes. You'd probably made like twenty one or twenty two out of twenty five from the top of the key with with flip flops on on a college recruiting trip and we're like a man. Looks like shoot a ball and he just looks dead. Dead nar is like. I would have made more of it. I'm not wearing my shoes. So me and my team mate. We look at each other. Like i think he's serious. Okay like i don't know where to go from there out these Obviously we didn't we didn't know much about him We just knew that. I knew that i wanted to go to. Ucsb in high school. He probably wanted to go to maybe ucla usc or whatever he might have wanted to do but we had put together such a great program that people really looking at washington state as a team to contend with so he vowed washington state and he ended up committee so the story goes something like this. My brother was new state. Maybe a cal at the time and he would play with my dad in like the spring events. A play great and then he played for the pumps in the summer and you know they just had dudes yeah and but they don't run the the offense in really share the ball. You know the experience everybody comes down. Just try and get. There's right and high balls rain spread out. I'm gonna go get mine maybe kickoff for a dunk. No you get you get yours. Whatever and you would kind of like shut down emotionally like you. Just have people thought he was a powder and that he was soft and really. Who's just pissed because it didn't get the ball and so people pass. And i remember watching him play in high school at at ocean view with his brothers on the team to and and like is like sigmund. Helen does i. Don't get it with like what are people like value now. It's the bigger leveille gets a little soft. I was like okay. What was he like when he got the campus He's a pretty quiet kid i used to. I used to joke around like his. Dad's voice the lakers. So maybe he took claes voice at the at the beginning but once you get to know him you realize it. He's just a really good guy you know he was. He's a little more reserved in every year e. Came more and more out of his shell. You really became the klay thompson. The people know now I think in the preseason or maybe in summer they might have come out to summer school. A couple of they came as a class upset set so they are really closed group. There is not many upper class and so we played one pickup game where it was a upperclassman against the against the rookies and so we were talking a lot and at the end of the game regard each other and kind of going after each other and he tries to back down and shoots this fatally shot and it's a game when he shot me and this is a freshman coming in my senior year and it wasn't by the basket was like out by the three point line. I was. Yeah this guy might be pretty good That year was up and down like seventeen and sixteen. And it's really hard. When we're senior year everybody had dreams idyllic senior year of you know how you emotionally him. I think it was tough because Like i said there were seven freshman when you have seven freshman especially all getting recruited. Everybody's got an idea of what they've been promised but maybe what they expect. Expectations can be dangerous. You know you can have goals that. Expectations can can kind of catch you. And so everybody had these idea of what's going on claim time minutes. Were trying to figure that out. And trying to incorporate all the young guys in our system and we kind of knew it was like they were still ready to grow up a little bit said. Hey was still got years and we're going to be good. Wait till were juniors and seniors and all that stuff and and this is my senior years as it. And so you're just dealing with a leadership role in trying to some consistency. I think that was the biggest thing that we are inconsistent. We read some good teams then losing games especially at home that we shouldn't have lost so it was definitely difficult knowing where we wanted to go but at the same time it was just a different role. Just you have to accept it. Today's horoscope brought to you by geico. People will take note of your sunny disposition sagittarius. 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I'm talking the two thousand nine shop player last game for me it was. I'm gonna play basketball overseas. So i had that i had that goal. When i was young i was like let's get on. Let's let's get some nba workouts. Let's try to promote myself as much possible escape to the summer league. Let's try to figure out where i can go play. was fortunate enough to find a great agent And european player changing agencies almost as common as changing tides and xiv at graduated graduated college which unfortunate bar names tidily age at arizona so we had a great relationship and he told me almost earth day we met. He's like i love to get you. Get you to play in germany. It's great league for young. Americans is fast league. And the first time i talked him. He he didn't want represent me he said. I don't know if you can play basketball or not because you've been in the bene- system for three years and you've had some good games. But then i've also seen you dribble the ball for twenty five seconds and then i've never really seen black so you should come down to arizona and work out a little bit and then let's see what you got night after one workout he said. Let's work together You know it's great a decide to you and we start working together in in within. I think the first game summer league. I ended up getting play with layers. Which was a dream. Come true and i'm a setting out corny guy. I think the first game. I was vegas. He contracts migo plan. Germany sets of great okay to germany was Gin yeah beating. So this is your first time playing overseas first time professional. I'm sure you went to a camp. I've actually never been a plate. Overseas three years never went to a camp central for sure did go to camp. I forgot about that What was that. What was the build up like. What was your arrival in in guten wiping. I'm one of the most people ever. And i was blessed to go out there and it was basically like an extension from college. We had i think. Seven or eight. Americans that were all first or second year guys overseas. Just a bunch of y'all. I'm big young core group of guys that were just in extension college so we were just out there. Basically it's felt like same kind of brotherhood except we working class. And we were making money for me for the first time. Went out there. And get data. Play basketball living dream that i've had for a long island's especial so i was excited to get going ahead. No idea what would be like ahead of crazy coach. And i call them crazy because we're good friends even so now and he would tell us. Look i'm gonna. I'm gonna get you the point. Is you off so you play harder. And i'll find a way to issue us. And i was just like. Wow coming from tony bennett. Who's just a big support system that just tries to get the best out of you and push you outside your comfort zone this guys. Tell me y'all and he definitely did. Just that. So names john patrick. He's a coach out. Germany great coach successful guy and he. He knows he knew what he was doing. Great recruiter brings guys in and get the best out of them. But you told me before the first game he's like. Hey man you're going to be my started guy. I'm pretty excited about it. is on the way to the game as like. I'm the rookie. I know you're young. But i want you to lead his team at three hours later. I was the last guy off the bench in the first game. And i was looking around. I said what's going on. Maybe that was him trying to trying to get on me as early as the first game and so within a couple of games kind of found my rhythm of having a really successful rookie year but the transition overseas a lot of people have these horror stories of what it's light and me i had the opposite. I had just such an amazing story. That's probably why i'm still out here. Would you make first year. It might have been maybe sixty sixty sixty five thousand and then. They gave us a coins at a place called sausalito. So we go for dinner and then there's two at restaurants we go eat as a team so we were spending breakfast. Lunch and dinner together and just playing basketball was crazy. Best part about gooden far as living there like if somebody's going gonna go visit what's cool about well. There's a lot of cool things about it. I first europe europe. Does christmas the best. I mean they have these christmas markets and you can drink this hot spicy wine christmas markets and when he gets cold. Everybody's outside and we have a downtown just walking areas. No cars gone by so it was a really close knit group of people in germany. I think australia and france. They envy's vip rooms after the games so all the sponsors in all the team and family. I'll get together after the game. So it's it's a special family type of bond where you feel these. I'm not saying it's a smaller team but in these smaller cities and so it was that family feel that kinda drew me to getting in and wildlife. Love is so much has the beer. The beer was You've got to ask my dad. My dad can't pronounce pacifies such as soon as he came to visit me. Let me get that banana. Had any wouldn't be able to say it so they have a. They have vise in that they mixed banana with that. You wouldn't think it's great but it's it's the best out there so your second year you go and you play for a big club in In turkey right when they Colorado Siri whatever Tesseract golic tests arrived. We i played against when we were. When i was in israel we went and played in turkey and by the way turkey is amazing was an istanbul which is its content and opal like two continents. Right there come together. I remember going to the the bizarre and just walking around and it was like something out of a movie could take me through. Okay so will like you had such a good experience in germany widely. Just want money. Yeah i mean it was. It was a chance to move up i signed a one. Plus one. I think And it was a chance to move up airplane in a euro cup. I'd play into the uric pounds the year before in your challenge so as it was an amazing experience there and so a chance to up to the euro cup Play on a bigger a bigger platform and experience was pretty wild for me. Because i've played in pullman washington at played in a small town in germany from santa barbara. You walk around. You see people you know announced establ- and it's just it's just a whole world. And i wish i had gone there. Maybe a couple of years later it was a little older more experienced and had been around a little bit. Didn't realize how special istanbul was but it was really a unique place in offered so much not just basketball lies off the court. I thank my mom. My mom always inspires me to like see everything in the city. She when she comes to visit she has a book already highlighted with forty. Five things that you have to do just in my area that dragging by every day but missed and so not only was playing basketball there. But i was checking out all the sites and it's one amazing place live and to visit. Who is a coach off. Time mc moody was. He like he was. That was my first. That was my first experience with Trying to work through a situation that that wasn't that comfortable for me. So when i got there normally when you recruited i tell a lot of young players that you're recruited for a reason you know they believe in you as a person you have to find a way to include who you are into the team aspect so i felt like i was being my salvin. He brought me in and said. Hey listen i game. You scored twenty plus points and he had five assists. But i want you to be appointment. Scores ten points a game and has eight assists. And i want you to get everybody going and about halfway through the year when i was ever jeans something of that nature. We had lost one game up until that point. He said things aren't really working out. You know thought you'd be doing a little bit more and Management wanted to get rid of me probably due to statistics right. That's not what was what was his national background Pretty sure he's turkish pretty serious turkish yet. He had been. He'd been coaching in turkey a long time. A good guy but just very demanding is my first experience with a really highly demanding. Coach in a coach was repetition. In you either go hundred percent or zero percent and so it was just a one hundred percents. All the time and i was like eight man. I'm i've always been a guy that changes changes face the percent hundred percent. That's who i am said. No no entrepreneurs. I want you rent full speed so I learned a lot now experience. Definitely grow from there so then you went to album right. Which is isn't that traditionally the big team ensuring yeah it was until Byron munich decided that they wanted to have a basketball team that could match their soccer team. So they really built up a great program in germany and now they're the number one of their so so you go inside mid-sized rights now you're experiencing all the different again much more normal for a european player than it is now american player like you signed a one plus one then all of a sudden around the different team But for guy would. That was a disappointment. How'd you handle again. Get hype was trying to do trying to please this guy. Second year pro. Don't get it now going to ab who you play for an album katzrin. Now you're really getting into my memory. Combative names that. I'm getting them right now. So there okay. Okay so it cape but now you're back in germany where you've had so much success but with a completely different squad. Did you have like equity within the country where everybody all okay. Everybody knows replay. Yeah i think. I think it was exciting. 'cause they recruited me big. I can't run the same time. And then the idea was just lost a game by like thirty five points That was a surprise to a lot of people may said you know. This team was in third place fourth place at the time. And then me miss this big guy kinda came at the same time in the vibe around. The team was while we chance to the championship. Now and so it felt good to come back and say hey. This young kids got a lot of promise and it wasn't about my situation turkey. It was just about moving forward and being in germany. Okay so Here's owner to okay. I want you tell me one thing because you played in all. These countries played in france than you went in. Played shoot i think. He played in spain. France italy italy russia russia russia. Again israel back to russia serbia. I mean every everywhere china. Okay right okay. So so here's we're going to mention where the country and you tell me one thing about living there that's cool and yeah and and if you have a good story like just just go okay. Let's start france in lamont. I've been lamont actually played for climate for all which was they. Were trying to move division one. We played lemoyne's fouls a friendlier is game. I can't remember. I do remember is kinda random city in the middle of france wasn't much to for me france. Go we'll france there you go. That's my home because I've been happily married three and a half years. I met my wife in france so wait. I don't bear the bear lead hedge meter. I met. I met her her best friend into her best friend I met her and I think my first day with her she came to a game and then she'd met my mom After the game and so it was it was right to the fire. My mom looked She said ord eker liberals really nice as like. Oh you thought she was nice. Well all right. I'm gonna. I'm gonna i'm gonna see what what else is going on. So for me for francis for instance by all. I have a house there now at this place like surmountable. Okay wait. so she's french. Yes did you speak french. I did not speak french. Her english was not great. Okay so how did that. Hell data volve. It went from a very short conversations limit. Google translate and extreme extreme patients extreme patients and my wife is amazing with languages so she had taken school but didn't really take it so seriously which he met me. She started focusing a little bit. You know with more of Learn language and getting excited about English initi- moved to australia for a little bit. She got really good at english She came back and She just wanted to learn more. And more and more and more more animated easy for me and so are talking manage with each other is english and then when when it comes to returning the favor and i'm trying to get her to talk french and teach french. I'm not as smart as she is. And she's not as patient as i. Oh so it was just a bad mixture of trying to trying to get two languages. But after a couple of years. As many some time. In france. I picked up more and more on so now feel more confident talking with Your house in france's is it. Flat is a house like like again from somebody from southern california will. How would you describe your your palatial state in entrance. I would say it's it's more of like like a countryside all so my wife My wife grew up about ten fifteen minutes. Outside of the mall Her mom lived in the city. Data had the as arm outside of the mine actually a farm and they produce stuff salad league. Everything i've worked out in the farm brothers in her in her dad especially during the pandemic. that's where. I spent five six months and so it's about. It's about ten minutes outside the city and we have a nice place. We bought it with her mom so she lives there. We we have a nice place in others cows side of the fence in the backyard. It's a big difference to run up in santa barbara. California are the amazing part of my job is creating this diversity for my kids to grow up in where they can experience growing up. Speaking different languages seen different things learning different cultures and just being more open to the world. So it's like san luis best buzzer. Telling it's slow town Best thing about food period. I had hook up in italy where he was a fan of the team and he said it. Listen coming in will make whatever you want. Just give us twenty euros. And i said what do you mean. He said whatever you want just tells the day before it will make you. American pancakes will make you. This and i said no. I don't want american pancakes. Best food we would show up. They would have sliced ham and cheese. They would bring appetizers pastas in stakes and everything you can imagine. Bring some desserts. You drink wine. You could stay there for hours and you just need twenty euros. He wouldn't let you lead. It said nothing is just love talking. Heavy conversations speaking english in just sharing stories that it was just an incredible spirits. Russia cold the My first experience there. There's a town called news not rob now. I owe a lot. Tunisian ended up having a mazy season out. There really opened up some doors for me. Moving forward and success law wise but The first year that my wife decided to live with me Resided we gonna live together three weeks later. I signed a contract. Live initially inaugura russia. Which is an hour and fifteen minute flight east of moscow and we lived in a small small apartment. Went little one bedroom apartment. And i issues with my dad or my mom walk into the grocery store and it's minus twenty minus thirty outside and it was. It was a different situation. I saw people on skis. Walking around was while only a so i. i played my shoes in euro. Great which is in We should pay perm russia right. Pet him rush. Same type of thing. It's a two hour flight from from moscow. I'm play. I played there okay. So and we won the league like we were the first not ceska window league. We your stat. Alice one game my all time russia and it was only because i had play with the juniors we. We won the league by somebody games. They advanced to the semifinals and they were like us. You must stay to play with juniors. So i played ceska with all these juniors and i was terrible but it was like one man band the anyway. Here's my here's my russian cold story so we just got married and i wanna come out there. Okay so We're living in a flat on the six. Four that six floor building or ninth or whatever and i get home from the morning workout. I shoot lift in the morning and cracks in the afternoon. And she'd wanna let's go do some seconds apart so we went to. We'd go the rock. Which is the market and never get one day was like minus forty and we have like everything covered up except our noses and our boogers froze a literally frozen stiff like ice cubes and ragweed never doing that again. That was way that was to cole. Without we're gonna lose skin. It was it was so incredibly cold and it used as i felt like he would. It's not every day i was there. That's what i remember. I remember like the first three months. I would wake up ago. Snowing all scattered like being smart ass. Luli mike mike. Mike coach told us one time he said a tomorrow brief some extra stuff because we're going to warm up outside and look each other. It was the beginning of march but it was freezing outside and so we all came with all our stuff. We had sweats gloves. Bees and we did our whole warm up on a lake which was frozen over and we just ran on this Frozen over lake in as you got to keep in mind. There's these big seven foot. Russian guys and i hear cracking cracking of snow and cracking of ice. And ask them like. Hey what's going on here like oh. This is for weeks now weeks if i fall river i'm not i'm not i'm not call. It ended using River outside of practice we. Would we win. Trained in a lithuanian in charlotte. What is that the type to russia so danced the play offs in semi finals. And we We end up training and playing all these lithuanian teams to lead up to the playoffs and we went on a run. We'd go on a thirty minute. Run in the morning and say took us down to the beach and the released pass like a forest and then there's the beach and the other american with willie burton and willie was in his thirty s. He played the nba using interesting drew. A guy and you had the guards that were like the high achievers right then you had the big guys that were just like big lumbering russian dudes right then he had cata some of the dudes in the middle and so we all take off. And i'm with a high achiever group right. I'm trying to get a good workout in and willie's kind of in the middle. And then i think he's like a gazelle right so i think at some point he was f. this i'm going to catch up with the other group and it's like winding trail and somewhere along the line he gets lost. I know turn left. Turn right or whatever and you're supposed to like stay with stay with the group will start with the middle guys with guys. Willies like that. Fm ago so we get back to the bus everybody sweating drenched in your drinking. Give us big they. They don't believe in cold water night. Warm water sitting there as i just assist go. Everything smells value on. I just want to go to the hotel. And like whoa. Goodly weight is really on his pager. I don't know wait is it. So we'd get off the bus and we kinda like way. We're in the middle of nowhere. I where i fuck it. I guess you know like he'll visa to figure it out so again. Same thing like we'd had a morning workout. We go back to the jim with shoot and they take us to the hotel we sleep. And then we scrimmage that night back in the hotel like your cones willie and you know like he's pissed at me like i left it dry left. The guy behind exactly got a book in middle the radio. I'm like dude you with a group and they will not with the group in like we call for you waited for like fifteen s like you're nowhere to be found so then you know like everybody is mad at you because i didn't know where he was like. That's not my fault. He's mad at me because he got left eye. And you're just sitting there going like this and then you start to think to yourself. Like that's legitimately scary. I remember on of you've ever you've had travels all i ever had. This thought. I remember landing my first time in russia guy. Picks me out these smoking stops to get something to eat. Nobody speaks english. And i'm like so tired. You're like in and out of consciousness. Look there's like red square. They were going to some other airport. Not russia like you fly into share meta and they take you to another airport. And i just remember thinking like if this guy was a bad human being like he won by money. You're killing me like pushing out the door. We would know for weeks maybe months maybe years because he be underneath slow. I like what. What's the craziest middle of nowhere store. You can show lifer the craziest story. I've heard is Is a russian story. Where a person without being mentioned Was supposed to get a bonus and somebody k. russia's Knocked on the door and he has some bonus. Money i dunno fits for advancing to the next round or something like that guy opens the door and the bag up the bat. You know bag of money. It's handed into his hands and it's all good and everything and so he goes. It doesn't think anything of it. Thirty minutes later. Knock knock knock. Somebody comes. I'm here of the money. So what are you gonna do. And so you know the team says. Hey you know. We dropped off the money. What's the problem. So they know nothing about the second guy knows just like so at a certain point like you said it's just like I'm going to say as many texts. I can keep my location on in case just so people have some documentation where i am. What's going on so especially americans that that think about what's going on and they're like. Oh well you're in russia with the war with With ukraine all kind of stuff. And it's really not like that but for people that don't know the situation your stories like that and it really is like that. You wrote a book which is about to come out. When did you start writing. Book excited man here. It is. I started writing about three years ago. I think i'm belgrade right now. When i was in belgrade the last time i played year my wife and i we got pregnant with our daughter joy and i thought about writing a letter to joy and i thought about writing a letter. Just a my thoughts about life about her. You see these books about like if you could. You know in impose some wisdom on your kids. What iggy your. I thought about writing a letter might wish for her for the future. That letter turned into a little bit longer than i started writing down notes. A bad sleep at nights. I stab at night. Especially after games. Can't sleep a right now said positive messages and spiring quotes and things that i wanna share with my kids and so that turned into more. I went out to play. China had a lot of talent road started adding more thoughts to the paper. Then it became more of a process that end result side. just -joyed writing enjoy getting thoughts out. It was kind of my way to relax amount even reader. I didn't even think it would really be a book and then slowly. I decided that it was going to turn up. Some ideas into chapter is into a book and then through some help of people Like cousins was amazing. She helped me edit the book And just became what it is now and so now january twenty second. There's a book coming out in. I'm supposed to be a writer now so excited. What is what is the like the two sentences of what the book is while it's right on the front front cover. Read the books cultivate joy. Reprogram your mind define life through an authentic leads and so i've got around the world and learned a lot of troops. I write in a book that you know Your truth in america might be different than somebody's truth in germany and even in america. Everybody has their own truth. They see life differently. Not only do we see life through different lenses physically. Where i have bad is got ice surgery but we see things differently and so just sharing my experiences sharing my ideas than really feel like we can cultivate joy. Cultivate happiness from the inside and especially right now. I was talking with some people. I didn't share this with yet. Bet yesterday was the end of my contract. I'm in belgrade serbia. I have my wife my two kids and in the next forty eight seventy two hours. I'm gonna be moving to a different country. I don't aware i don't know what team and that's that's that's all these external factors that come into life. in there's i call it controlled. Chaos and to be able to find your life from the inside out of foundation of confidence in optimism can really change your outlook on everything and especially of his twenty twenty message where twenty twenty two shook up the world with covid nineteen. I think it's the perfect time for this message. I think it's a book for everybody. And i'm just excited to share it to the world and my family not no no guests somewhere. You're gonna play. There's a couple of different places a couple of different countries. The cool thing about playing so many places. Like i have a couple ideas of where i might wanna play france. You know potentially kind of going back home and cleaning out in an area that i loved israel been there before turkey. I played for a lot of coaches played with a lot of jabs light. It's a lot of players some players. When i started in our gm's coaches because Now thirty five and got a lot of calls in. It's extremely humbling Habit announce yesterday that i'm changing teams and to have my phone ringing in some. You know five. Six seven professional basketball contracts. The offered is truly blessed. Hey it's your homie. Sorry it's your home. I know you don't like it when i call myself homemade so i have some favors to ask you. Could you get rid of a few chairs in the living room. My floorboards are tired. Another easy thing. We save money. If you bundled your home and car insurance geico one more thing. I know you love lavender. Scented candles but could we try to he vanilla. I think it would fit my five better. Go for bundling made easy go to geico dot com today. Okay so There's there's there's a bunch. I wanna kind of buy into hero real quick. What do you wanna do when you're done. I think one of the most amazing things about life so in the book i say life is not happening to you. It's happening boy and so there's just so many opportunities so many things. I've known since i was five i wanted to be a professional basketball player. And so the idea were i can wake up in. Choose what i wanna do or just open up my mind to the created events and especially now with the internet in the world being what it is that you can kind of figure out what you love to do. Try to make that a profession and so love to do other than play basketball for the funny things It's gonna be tough to be involved basketball. There was a lot of traveling. And i wanna i wanna i wanna travel but i want to travel a little bit more pleasure. Now travel in the tell me what close to where what. Color t. shirt and what time to be at the gym and things like that. So i want to travel take my family around the world i wanna. I never thought i'd be a writer and now there's a book coming out so i don't know how much longer i'm gonna play But i'm just going to enjoy every single second then when i'm done better ideas in we started thinking about a couple of things but i'm open to everything. Would you tell. My son is eleven year old left-handed whites in orange county. Little if he grows grow late know and this is a world. Where if you walked into a room and said obsessional basketball player for last fifteen years. This is what i thought you were like. Bullshit i've never in an american like ever already. That's a of it right now. He'll ask somebody. Like i played in bladen euroleague and high levels. All these big clubs would you. What do you tell the kid who looks around. Says i can't do this. Everybody's everybody's looks. Looks more the parkway a couple vince I love the idea of whatever it is you seek. You're gonna find it so if you're if you're positive if you're seeking a certain thing you're gonna find people that are positive you're trying to motivate yourself to be go a certain way you're gonna find that will help you get that way if you if you feel yourself with doubt in insecurity and you and you're seeing that route and you have excuses and things like that you're gonna find people that will sympathize with you and go along that route. I believe anything is definitely possible. And to focus on improvement instead of perfection. that's been my mo so every day there's no such thing as perfection and I talked in the book about meeting kid in china and trying to help him with drills and just trying to keep his head while he's doing some dribbling drills and he and he did it again didn't he head up and i said hey man. Maybe i didn't translate. Maybe the translator didn't get it and he said no. I understand english. But if i do that. I can't do the drill perfectly and i said that's an interesting concept. Tell me what player in the nba. You love the most and tell me how perfect as if he ever makes it states and so we start with that and we go back so you have to work on improvements. That perfection perfection. You're gonna fall. Short improvement is about. The journey is about everything that you can't control and so if you focus on your effort and not the outcome i mean world just opens up to you and that becomes that becomes a habit and if it's basketball if it's something else you develop a style of living that just becomes your heaven. You are one of these. You said that stuck with me. You're talking about your coach in istanbul. But how going one hundred percent. Whatever i remember i it's funny and you also talked about not wanting to wear the same shirt being a like i. I you go through when you're done playing okoh through like a. I don't know how long it'll be like a a point of rebellion. I don't wanna. I don't wanna i don't wanna be i don't wanna work out with a bunch of people. I wanna do everything when i want to do it right. Because that's part of the regiment of being an athlete is somebody's always telling you. And that kind of motivates you or somebody can take your spot etcetera etcetera But i remember i remember. It's some point. I was doing like remain leave. I've literally done this for thirty years. I never i like it's taken me. I've coached youth basketball now for three years. Guy back at the younger level and only this year have i- reintegrated like three men. We've is part of the drills. Whatever just because you want passing catching in cutting some of those things. I do understand why exists. But i would just show negative towards like how many times to the same thing over and over again have you have you gotten to that. Is that is that part of it. It's the it's not. The the games are great. Players are great even the preparing for the games great. It's just those other things that everyone feels like. They have to do as part of practice to say. There's a practice that you're that's the part. I can't stand as an as i've gotten older. I've kind of been like five on five or bust so you you show up you rack this good knowing my and i think he coaches might be back in israel. He was in in turkey. We had a bit of personality conflict. When i was in israel sky sharon drinker played against sharon and he would goodly professor good libya know so much about basketball kind of content totally condescending and loved his practice has all we did was five ahbfive like that was it like i would love we lift. We'd shoot and then let's let's go and it was competitive like that. Was it that what. What are we doing other stuff for. I love when they're like okay. We're gonna do this drill and they're saying oh no no the fifth guy will be there and like let's put the fifth guy there and let's see where he'll be and let's play that because in the game is going to be fine on five and i and i respect all the drills an aesthetic especially the preseason you have to work on certain things where five on five might not be there but at the older. I've gotten. I definitely felt that i got to italy and somebody shared a story with me I can't think of the name right now but there are player at that. It was playing for the team the year before i got there and it was like five games into the season and he showed up to practice in right before he walked out court. He was in practice tearful gear. Everything just went through the preseason five games he just sat there was looking around. There was like a manual gays. You don't feel good and he said i'm done took office practice uniform. Five games in untidy shoes carried issues with just left locker room. And like that's it is at a certain point like i. I don't want to go out there and again. I don't want to do this practice. I don't wanna play another game. He was just it. I haven't definitely not gotten to that point. Love the game so much. But i have a feeling that for me to finish It would have to be something where i just look at my family and i said hey you know like if there's something if there's a better avenue for my family and if there's a way that i can create more for my family than i would take that route but for right now basketball is bringing us too much. I don't know if you know this. But if i were to go back and play in france service six games inspection house. This research miss my last perfume by going out with a bang. So i had done. Espn games for a year. And my agents. Michael siegel and michael was always calling me throughout the year. Like man you gotta come. I got contract for year contract for their. I only played two years. Undo the the thing you did. I got lucky enough to get an a. to espn gains. And i was like. This is what i wanna do. The next forty years so I never forget. I did Tulsa won the whack championship. And i lived in a house in oklahoma city at the time and it was like tulsa versus nevada. And i'm driving back on the turnpike and get a call. And it's michael siegel. And i had a radio show in oklahoma and he said if you leave today i gotta deal for you in portugal. The team's first division gonna go. The playoffs could win championship. Be a good bonus. Whatever leave today. We leave this weekend. a two and france of they're trying to advance point guard got hurt to two months replacement the month and a half replacing deal the pay the guinea bonus. Whatever no car but you're flat while anyway. So that was the decline of taking because i had radio bosque. Larry steve and i felt like i had to face to face with them and tell them like. Hey man i know. Radio show. But i just i don't have this out of my system yet. He was cool about it. I probably could've taken the portugal view. But anyway so i go and play in france and were playing. You know all the teams there who played them all. We played first division. We played a paris against perish racing. But this is a team from up like around normandy. Can't remember the name of the team and like may. Where's the moshe worst. The mortgage limos llamas more south. I'm trying to think of the tea you're talking about. I i know it. it's much healthier. So so here's what's crazy about so it is my last game and they're like you could stay but we already have the guy your salary so we cut your salary. We love above the bottom. Like nanga and i was going to be with the symbols in their camp for summer league. Whatever and of getting do the it like again. Like serendipity got to do the nba draft on radio and that's kind of spn. Career took off by not staying. But i remember like the teams getting off. The bus. And i see kelvin gibbs whose he's now police officer and oakland berkeley and he. I played against them. Us at pepperdine. And i go up and daf mop whatever and then off. The bus is true story. My high school. Teammate has got david lawless. So la la Had gone to notre dame. I got him to go to notre dame when i was in day so he was a freshman when i had left. And then he left you edit and then uses like his first or second years of pro and he was a late pickup in his training with the team travel with them. Like what are the chances in this small town of france at like my best friend and this was before we have cell phones. John this is like two thousand two or two thousand three and so he hopes up at my wife had just arrived in town and lalla was in my wedding right so so a plane this team and it's a close game at the end of the game have a french point guard east eject white do and we're kind of going back and forth and back off if he plays up close and we're just doing like four go by him and then he plays up close go by the health kick obligated done and ain't backs up a hit three perfect ending to this low run and so he's running his mouth and i'm like or board. I don't understand scoreboard so he goes. He goes by me by me and we have these two young french dudes and they both block his shot. She'd have to time bitch and he's ready. So we're like squaring off. And i'm not gonna fight anybody check all of a sudden karenin and these young french who are literally like like in americo. Guys don't really fight. Everybody talks like they fly. And they are squaring up and the icty there whistling and the refs threw me out of the game because on the instigate perfect so so they're seventeen seconds to go into game and the way the the gym and clermont. Baron is like the gamma tori locker. Room is at is behind one of the baskets like stands behind the air on top of that stands on one side and then there's like really small like high school stands on one other sites. I'll say jim not. Yeah and so. I'm blowing kisses to people because my life and then la la not on the bench. He's sit with my wife behind up behind the hoop pointed to them. You i hear this. Like aurora from roar from a high around here comes frenchie. Is he got around the game. He's come after me and then here comes both teams. And there's this massive were just so they're footage against You have somewhere. I gotta find footage so they were in our locker room. And you guys have jerseys and there's you know everybody's talking like they they just. Everybody was mike tyson and that you know anybody got clean shots in. I didn't get. I didn't get hurt and get punched. Whatever but at tackled so they. They grabbed five guys that go out. They run the clock out finished the game. Or you know and then. I say goodbye to my my buddies that are getting on the bus and the next day on leaving and they the coach in the general manager come over and they give me like a cash bonus and they're like by the way you must know like you are suspended next six games. That's how my professional career ended. So i'm not telling you that's how you should end. You're not a bad way to go out is go out where you get suspended right. You're not a drug guide. Use drugs but if you wanna go out and take a swing it somebody. That may be a good way to go. We'd be like handling the gottlieb exit. The lowest i've ever finished a was playing bernie talented team in this year. I think i didn't go to the playoffs. And it was the last game of the season and we knew it was the last season. And this is the closest i get to your story itself. The might my teammates are kind of already checked out and this is a game that we can win. I'm a super competitor. And i always wanna win. Doesn't matter situation as and i realized that these guys are checked out and we're losing to a team that we should be losing like this to and so the closest thing i do is walk up to the referee and i asked him to kick me out of the game and because i could be a part of it anymore. It's the only time i've ever done anything like this. It's ask kicked me out of games. I can't kick you game. So i used some choice words for it to give me a technical foul and i was like man. I walked up to him as their street. I want you to kick the game. Can't just kick you out the game as you can't now get gabe game a little push or something like that Go after the game. I said I don't wanna push you you kind of forced me to do that because if i keep talking to you you know you already gave me the tax look bad you really young so i just pushed him in and left and and so. I don't know if i'm suspended from the The italian ma that's pretty. That's that's pretty good when you have a curse in a different language. That's the only time. I curse when i'm on the court is just a different languages just because You get so used to it. It's more fun way to curse at. It almost feels like you're not saying anything bad but the weird part is agree. If you directly translate their curse words way worse way worse and so when you tell some of these young americans with these coaches were saying what these fans are saying it makes them want site. But you realize it's not it's not like it's amazing appoint. That's when i went to russia like my my dream was kind of your dream. You're living it was my dream. I want to play a different country every year and learn language of your complaint russia we take a russian tutor. It was the worst thing. I ever could help me order food and helped me have conversations with people because nobody spoke english. Whatever but hurt me. Because now i understood what all the coaches were saying about me and say about me and i was like no and then when i was in israel i didn't really learn hebrew phrases. But they would always they would speak english and there was another american point. Guard probably play against guide contour and and never forget like we play in the first half. And if i played the only israelis viewed play a lot and they play some together. Whatever but they they'd speak in english and then when there was some issue in hebrew. And you're like wait. hold olen. let's let's go to english version here. I know what you're saying but it's actually kind of a bad thing. Sometimes the learn what people are saying and how they're saying it because you're like wow. I really wish. I had not known that. Ignorance is bliss unless they pointed me when they start pointing at me. All right here. We go english english english. Only just bring whatever you need to say. I'm right here. we can talk about it. Cut back the same language of i have to. I don't want to but let's just. Let's just do it proper amount of time to work out for practice individual for you in your train. I grew up a kobe fan. So i heard about his throat workouts where egypt. He got forty five minutes to to throw up. I talked to some trainers in the weight room. Say once you go pass our not getting anything done. Satiric for the bias. I'm a big efficiency person where let's let's do it in practice instead of doing it to. Let's do it in a shorter amount of time. But if we're gonna be on the court let's get stuff done. Let's take it seriously. Let's work hard and then you know a lot of times they'll be like okay. We're gonna go through a lot of these things that we're going to go half speed all seven. It takes a really long time. Like go full speed. Let's get game raps. Let's let's knock each other outlets compete at the highest level and then we'll see the single best player that you've ever played with her gets i think that's i know not because i'm still playing. I can't keep anybody that type of that type of process i want. You can't say one guy that you play by play against us you know what's interesting is I always thought in college. The toughest player to guard was jerry. Bails so he was at washington state. And when i was in the pac ten it was i. I mean every single night. What you're planning against the guy that ended up being a top fifty pick and like you said you had some players coming off bend. I mean i think Westbrook was coming off the bench at ucla. And so those type danger claiming extra so you had you had Players has isaiah. Thomas it at eight but i remember like like you played mcabe tel tel-aviv. Like i'd never heard of area mcdonagh before playing against your own macau granada the mike. This guy's good holy shit Will slow for me for me. It's about it's about a red light yellow light green light so if you're playing against a person with green light in europe i mean it doesn't really matter if you know the name or another name anybody with with a green light. That's taking x amount of shots per game. I played in china where these guys have taken thirty four shots per game or something like that where. It's just like nygaard an all night. And he's got green lights at stuff so i can't think of anybody individually i can think of Some i can remember some games that were a guy. Squeaky johnson played at uab. When i was freshman and so he he picked me up full court. We played at at uab. And he had. I think i had five turnovers at. Uab haven't thought about us is humbling. And so then we played the second game at too late to call and are coming into the game on the freshman. He's like a senior point guard. the all defense. Whatever he's picking me up full the game so the game start online. I'm just gonna take care of the ball. Don't worry about myself. Just just take care of the ball. We win the jump ball. I take one dribble goes off my foot at once. He wasn't even guarding me at the time. I think i was thinking about so much during the day. Gerbil bounce and that's that's light is editor of hitting the game winner in the game at beaten. Uab and it was a memorable game. But i just remember coming into the game. I all man. I don't wanna play this game. The best you ever best game you could've ever play the most memorable The most memorable my last time wearing a the cook jersey at home. Washington state we're playing arizona state at home and i hit a game winner against a heart State says last time i played in beasley coliseum so that was my senior night That was amazing. I made the first shot at a game. I think i missed twelve straight shots. I've always been the most incredible free throw shooter. I missed a free. Throw to seal the game fowl. James harden he makes three throws to go to overtime in overtime still playing bad trying so hard to have a good senior night. Every tony bennett said. He was preparing this speech to these guys that he had grew up with like. How am i gonna talk to these guys after such a big letdown. Especially taylor and i came running down the court pass to a teammate. Just yelled at him to throw back to me through back to me and just four seconds left shot at from beyond. Nba went in. And it just happened that memorable night You know for a senior is probably that the are you an exotic food guy like have you gone like when i was. I've tried cath brains. Tried cowbells tried all that stuff Exotic traveling the world and seeing all these planes. What's the most exotic food you've ever. They have a blood tofu in china. That's pretty nasty And then i wait to was that mean what is blood. Tofu just like threw it out. Like blood oh blood. Blood tofu oh blood you know blood. Tofu blood software right. I mean tuesday night His alexander Some type of animal. Blood that's Tofu marinated it or something and then they love to eat. I really don't know to this day when i was eating. The most exotic thing i had was i walked into a buffet at a really nice hotel. We went up to one of those. Little sky lounges where the place rotates around. And you're looking at and had his amazing buffet as walkie down I noticed a huge crocodile head. It's like a huge Closer i realized hollowed out and the raw crocodile. Me is on the inside alligators crocodiles. So it's a head with the body the whole thing is they're hollowed out me and you like scoop out the meat yourself and then you give it to them to put on the grill and then you eat it and so that was probably one of the craziest things i've done on the guy that will eat spiders or eat different stuff like that and i think that we all learned a lesson from cope. Nineteen that maybe some of those markets in china are probably not the best places to To get your to get your exotic foods but there you go francis home. There's one other place that you've traveled to your like. I could live here. what would they. There's two places. There's a apart of athens. Greece ugly fatah fatah agrees is like kind of the southern cal of of greece. Greece's like the whole places like california water but mainly Truly amazing. I was playing last year. They were with Bianco's down to home. They're basically family friendly and then i love tel aviv. Israel tel aviv is just incredible. Wife is in love with it. She has great friends there. And we develop great bonds me being there is like being at home because they the style of people there is all about family having chabad dinners and just people come together around food and there's no cell phones on the table and everyone's just in just a join sommes Okay here's the last. This is a really random question off air. We were talking about ordering out stuff like case so here. We have a jordache breach. Whatever granted you're in belgrade you're gonna change locations like is it the same set up like an app to order food to go pick it up with the pandemic is for sure for sure they have. They have one of the most amazing things about traveling. The world is the they have amazing. Cultures are amazing. The people are amazing but the food antastic unfortunately the second time around now vegetarian slash vegan. Eat a lot better staff would before hours. Eat never out here. So they have everything you can think of it's a misconception. For the most part when you travel different countries today still have the stuff that you have back in states. Sometimes they have all that and more and sometimes they have just the same type of stuff. So everything's just perfect in our worst place you've ever been like they're good. Yes when when. When i was there everything felt great but looking back. I don't think i could go back to certain places in russia just from a standpoint that i'm older now that got my kids. I don't think i could take anybody that you know. It's a negative twenty weather but I honestly founded in every place. It was one of the worst contracts. I had signed not from standpoint. Anything else but i felt like i taken a step back in a way i was really trying to go through. This one ended up signing in france. And now it's where my home is is where my wife is. I love the management. Still my favorite president. I've ever had the favorite management i've ever had one of the favorite teams i replayed for it was in france and at the time i thought it was the right. Move for me looking back. It couldn't have been better. listen. I can't wait to read the book. I do get events. Copyright twenty twenty vision. I of course again advance copy and i would love to hear. Where were you play next. And what the next book is. And i may if you're not gonna if you're gonna be in france i may have to bring my guy my little guy come work with you and do those forty five minute throw throw workouts. In the meantime this is amazing simply amazing and we miss you here stateside. But we're just thrilled by your success and like you so much for joining man. Thank you so much for adamy. I really do appreciate it. Look forward to speaking with you again. The book is twenty twenty vision right the available in january of twenty twenty one by kayla rochester. Integrate stuff. man can't wait to read it. 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11/08: Jim Boeheim hates playing Virginia, Cole Anthony unleashes the hype and our five favorite bets for this weekend's games

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11/08: Jim Boeheim hates playing Virginia, Cole Anthony unleashes the hype and our five favorite bets for this weekend's games

"Eric scary Friday November timber. Eight two thousand nine hundred and welcome back to the CBS Sports College Basketball podcast. Where we sometimes discuss Campbell fighting leak? Black Matt. Norlander is here with being. Today is the fourth day of this college basketball season. Hopefully we both slipped a little since we last quarter middle of the night Madison Square Garden for those keeping track through three days of this season as an no rank teams have lost to unranked teams. Ranked teams remain undefeated against unranked opponents and that includes Virginia. And I want to start there because norlander under was at the carrier Dome earlier this week to watch the reigning national champion not the defending national champion. The reigning national champion open it season against unranked rank Syracuse and Tony Bennett's eleventh ranked cavaliers. They had no real issues. They want forty eight. Thirty Four for junior replaces three starters from last season's title team still regardless incredible defensively they hold Syracuse to thirty four points. Syracuse only twenty three point six percent from the field. Seventeen point two percent from three-point report rain so for Julia Basketball is still very much Virginia basketball and gym behind a steel grouchy norlander. Let's talk to form its first. Then Gyms post-game in comments What did you think of the new? Look but still suffocating Virginia Cavaliers offensively disgusting. There's a lot. There's a lot of room for growth. For Virginia's offense defensively Bay said afterward that going into the game he thought defensively Virginia would be better this season than it was last season and while he didn't say explicitly I think that's in part because for as good as tides Roman Kyle Guy were. They were adequate but not high level defenders and maybe on the whole given what. Virginia A has They could be a better defensive unit but still even though the prospect of Virginia being better as a as a defensive group this season versus last is quite scary. Although I believe they finished fifth in in defensive efficiency last season was not the best group. Ever under Tony Bennett. But yeah the the offense was rough but I tell you what a lot of crazy stats came out of this. It's game on the Virginia side. First of all this is this is wild I I it was an ACC opponent to open the season. We'll get to that in a minute air but Virginia's Virginia's never lost an ACC opener under Tony Bennett. Every single time. They've had their first conference game. They've won. I thought that was kind of wild credit The Great Chuck culpepper. Who was there on hand for the Washington Post on Wednesday night over the past four games that Syracuse has played? Virginia it is seventy two you for two hundred and thirteen from the field. Thirty three point eight percent. I mean that's just a miserable existence and it's got to be interesting for behind perish and that obviously he runs a distinct defensive system with the two three zone that is obviously proved to be the right way to go about it for him over the course of more than four decades as a coach. In fact this is the forty fourth season for behind a coach and they manage just thirty four points but for him to run up against Bennett in his scheme. I mean it's gotta be something that he just absolutely Louis dreads at this point no matter the personnel on the floor. Virginia has Syracuse. Is Number Overall Bennett in particular Bennett is is seven and one Virginia is seven and one against Syracuse in the ACC. which is wild? Virginia's won four straight against Syracuse. News and Bennett himself is seven to all-time here's a couple more things. So this is like everyone wants to make a lot about Syracuse. Only scoring thirty four points and that that is wild. That's the lowest ever behind the lowest since World War to carry them record obviously the last time Syracuse was this low they played something called the Sampson Navy. Like what's but it was the first time since one thousand nine hundred. This is crazy for Virginia perish the first time since since one thousand nine hundred eighty three three cavaliers had at least ten rebounds in a game and the last time it happened one of the players is now a current assistant coach. Jason Wilford. It was one of three along with Yuri. Barnes and junior borough perish didn't even cloud go into a trivia time with you there because I know you wouldn't even have it but how about this okay Clark. Got His first career double double. He gets eleven rebounds. He's the according to Virginia. He's the first player in the ACC play under five eleven to have at least eleven rebounds in a game since nineteen ninety nine when it was. I don't even shadow to this dude. I don't remember him playing. Virginia's Donald Hand You. Do you recall who donald hand was. GP I have no recollection of Donald Hand. Donald and hand good with the hand was the last time a player under five eleven in the ACC had at least eleven boards in a game chefs to key Clark for getting his first career double double Jay also had a career high twelve rebounds and on the whole Virginia offensively. Long Way to go but to step into the season even with makeover ver- roster and to put up one of the historic defensive performances in program. History I mean more staff free I mean this was I had it in my column. GP EP This is insane whereas it this this is the twenty fourth time this is stupid. This is the fourth time. Virginia has held a team under forty under Tony Bennett. That's that's incredible. Considering the way modern basketball has been trending toward in the past decade twenty four times and obviously Virginia's never lost any of those games because even if they do offensive issues are normally cracking forty so yeah just an incredible performance overall and wind up not being the exact kind of game I thought it would be but I did think Virginia would win with some comfort and it looked ugly but they had the crowds leaving with more than five minutes to go there and the carrier for forget holding somebody under forty percent they have these dudes under twenty four percent twenty three point six percent shooting from the field. Not even one out of every four shot Syracuse took went through the rim. Just absolutely absolutely incredible. And you mentioned that Jim Boeheim at this point must hate coaching against Tony Bennett. I think it's probably safe to assume. Everybody hates coaching against Tony Bennett. Because because he's going to slow the game down to a tempo at which you're probably uncomfortable or at least you don't WanNa be there and then he's just GonNa make it impossible for. Oh you to score right now. Virginia ranks first in defensive efficiency past six seasons check this out. Two Thousand Nineteen ranked fifth breath two thousand eighteen ranked first two thousand seventeen ranked second two thousand sixteen ranks seventh two thousand fifteen ranks second two thousand fourteen ranked fourth past six seasons. Three top five finishes never lower than seventh in defensive efficiency. The average finish is it's three point five and it'd be one thing if this word the NBA and they had a dynasty going into the same core year after year after year. That's not reality in college basketball. The due to finishing second in two thousand fifteen got nothing to do with the team. That's ranked number one right now in defensive efficiency it doesn't doesn't matter the cast of characters it doesn't matter who leaves who comes back who enrolls. WHO GETS suspended? WHO GETS kicked off? The team for Gina is going wing to guard you every single year at a at the very better than basically everybody else or at least as well as everybody else. I would make this argument that nobody year after year after year is better at anything in college basketball than for junior. Can you is at guarding the opposition. I WANNA I wanNA spring onto a tweet. You had when I was at the game that I saw that you tweeted me all right right. Let's say Tony Benn. Let's legitimately try and guess what would be the outcome here. Let's say Tony Bennett. Takes the number ten approximately the number ten team in division two basketball that entire roster okay and he inherits that roster in in June before a season starts it. Okay nothing but D. Two players and they go through the run up of the preseason and he feels that that roster would two to questions. What with the schedule? That Virginia has in front of it. How many wins? Do you think Tony Bennett gets with that division to roster and just Tony Bennett even with a roster full of division two players still manage to have a top twenty five defense in America. I think the winds would be tough tough because at some point I mean you. You've got division two layers and you're playing division one basketball. I think it would be tough to win consistently although honestly if anybody body could do it I would. I would be him defensively if you told me. They weren't even if they were division two players. If you said listen. They are Division Two caliber Oliver Basketball players. But they're not lacking size and they're good enough athletes. I think you can still have a top fifteen defense in the country if you just like. He's not playing with a six five center. He's the player even at Division Two caliber players. They measure properly for the position. They're playing for the most part and they're good enough not great but good enough athlete. I don't care about basketball player. Just they can move their tall enough and they can move. He'd still have a top fifteen defensive team in the country. I'd say I'd say the chances of having a D. Two roster and getting top fifteen would be tough top thirty. I'd buy it and and I think that Tony Bennett and this on a certain level like ut almost any other coaches Tony Bennett could win twelve or thirteen games against this current schedule with thirty two roster which is just. It's stupid that should that should not be the case. You take most other coaches give them d two players against their current schedule and they're gonNA trouble getting out of the single digit column but because of the scheme he runs the way that there's I was talking with one of the Virginia assistants after the game and he said You you know it just takes a certain kind of player a certain kind of mindset to play for Tony and the play of Virginia. There are certain guys for many reasons that they that they will not recruit. You need to have a specific kind of approach and humility about yourself to throw yourself into playing into that system and then yeah eventually the rewards come when you look up and year. After year after year you are a top team in the conference you are fighting for one and two seeds there and so with all of that backdrop and to see what has been able to do somewhat regardless of personnel. As you stated earlier parish I mean it's just year after year after year and players are still. Don't get their talented. There are due to have jumped from D to d one and become like impact players. There so I do think that he could win. Twelve or thirteen game which is absurd but I had never thought about it but you brought it up on twitter in the midst of this game when you see a Virginia team that is like okay. How good will they be or not be? They hold a granted I know Syracuse accuse isn't maybe even a top fifty team but you're starting on the road in the Dome Against Hall of Fame Coach and Syracuse has some linked and you win by fourteen points and don't even score fifty a few things. I guess better defined Virginia the good and bad of it than what they did on Wednesday night one for you and then we'll move on so according to WHO Kim Palm the worst team at this moment in the ACC is wake forest. Their eighty second in the country of four spots behind Clemson wake forest is according to Kim Palm projected to finish last in the ACC. If you gave Tony Bennett wake forest roster in on April Fifteenth Eighteenth. Where would they finish in the top six? Probably I if if anyone disagrees with that I need I need to see your case otherwise because just look at the history of what Ben has been able to do from turning around Washington Got Washington state to be a a three seat in the four seat him back to back years and only coach there three seasons. And there's just no there's no saying otherwise man there really isn't I mean. He inherited his worst team ever ever was the first team he had at Virginia and that was fifteen and sixteen with a five eleven record in the conference but since two thousand twelve the basically enrolling enrolling made the tournament every year except one. Even though they didn't make the tournament they went twenty three games and won eleven in the ACC. So yeah I think like the floor for Tony Bennett. Coaching the wake forest roster is six six and if you told me it was high as four I totally believe it. So oddly the biggest storyline coming out of the game wasn't actually Virginia's win. It was Jim behind post-game comments he ripped the ACC because he didn't like the idea of opening with a league game shows. Do you norlander. You actually asked the question that got the quote that created did all of the national headlines The quote was you Never WanNa play these league games. Early it's stupid. It's just a money. Grab they got scheduled Games for TV FOR THE TV contracts. So you've got to play Games early and then somebody had the brilliant idea to open up the first game with a League game. I just don't think it's good. Would I don't think it's smart. You want to build up the league. The League's most in the League is the most important thing. So why would you play. The first game of the year in the League makes no sense is to me in quote. Norlander is jobs criticism valid. Or is this just Jim behind being Jim. It's definitely behind being behind time and I did. I didn't ask if you liked it or not because I know he wouldn't like it so the question I post him. I said Jim is it beneficial for you and your team to open the season even against a strong conference opponent for the long term health of your team. Then he went off and said what he said there. I did also I would. I could have answered that question. uh-huh yes yes. It's great for us to open against Tony Reigning national or knew who even if we shot it. Well we're probably going to score forty three thirty four yet. Wonderful New Orleans. Hey y'all got though we're talking about it and I asked Tony only the same thing and Tony said if you'd asked me twenty four hours ago my answer would have been a little bit different and and side. No Tony did you use the fact act. You were the reigning national champions and the schedule makers push not even just a conference they put you on the road against one of the more distinct tougher defensive opponents you could possibly face. He admitted that he thought about that. A little bit. But the staff didn't necessarily use that as a huge motivating tool for this kind of group. He said this group is kind of but different but that might have been the case last year with guys who definitely had an edge to them in German guy specifically but with Bay Heim does he have a point. Sure from a coach's perspective perspective Perez. He's got a point there. This I also think will be a one time thing I mean before the even the Syracuse game from my understanding and maybe the SEC AC network winds up wanting to do this again. But I think there's Been Enough Commotion From The Coaching Fraternity to to make sure this is only a one year thing since this is the first year the SEC network. But I think it's good to have like I only went. Because it was the reigning champs at Syracuse Game was conceivably endow doubt going in Virginia GonNa look without its three. NBA players from a season ago. But coaches don't want anything to do with this in fact what behind said Wednesday a parish even tied back weirdly to what cale said Tuesday night when Cao was trying to get us to push the champions classic back to how it used to be these coaches. I want to play a one or a pair of games against by opponents. The patsies from the lower conferences. So that they can kind of just ease into the season. It's understandable why they would have that opinion because they they don't WanNa be tested right off the bat there because as behind said your offense sometimes needs a couple of games to even find itself self in many instances but I don't have an issue with it because it brings a little bit more intrigue overall. I mean Wednesday. We were completely void of any interesting college Thursday. I should say we are devoid of any interest in college basketball whatsoever so Virginia. Syracuse isn't going to go down. As one of the twenty. Most watch must watch games of November or anything like like that but I did like it. It is a little bit weird to have these conference games in November. But no matter what they're at Twenty Games the ACC as this is the big ten sec packed. All these conferences. When you go to the Big East it's going to go to a twenty game schedule and what that's going to mean is having conference games? Maybe not to start the season but squeaked in on the back end of November or particularly in in December a couple. That's never going to go away. I know coaches hate it. But that's that's the deal you make with the devil when you want to go to twenty games in these conferences in their television networks parish. They WANNA make money because they need the inventory and they want. They want to sell that it to advertisers there. But I wasn't surprised by comments but personally I guess I like it more than not. Even if it's a little bit weird weird but I'd rather have syracuse opening at home against a team like Virginia then Syracuse opening at home against Binghamton last season eastern Washington. Let's say you well first on the subject of there being no good games on Thursday because I saw Jeff Goodman mentioned that as well like he was complaining about that because everybody played on Tuesday or Wednesday was the everybody. You WanNA open your season as early as possible because those wasted days if if you don't and so everybody played them to. Basically everybody played on Tuesday or Wednesday so they weren't gonNA turn around and play again on Thursday Friday night Saturday. We'll get some more compelling games but I wasn't bothered by Thursday's lack of compelling basketball as much as as some people you make a good point about the opening with a League game if anybody should have been upset about it. It shouldn't have been behind. It should have been Tony like we're the reigning national champion making this go on the road. Certain season I think you tweeted is the first time in fifty two years the rating national champ had had to start on the road so if anybody was going to sit down and complain and I guess you just don't Complain Plane A. If you're Tony Bennett. He just doesn't really do that or be you. Don't complain after a fourteen point win in a season opening road games. But if anybody had an issue I think with the ACC the office it would be for Jinya not Syracuse beyond that. Listen to state the obvious. I've never been a college basketball coach. So perhaps I don't properly grasped the issue that so many seem to have with opening with a relevant opponent opponent but why is this a thing in college basketball and yet in basically every other sport you know it's not it the the mets to open next season against the nationals. Imagine Carlos Beltran got the job the other day. And he's like you know what I don't understand why Major League baseball makes us open with the world series champions we gotta face Max Scherzer on opening day. Why couldn't we get the Marlins or maybe even a AA team it'd I'd be like what the NBA you open against in some cases because it's sort of a high level competition in the NFL same thing nhl well same thing college football? We'll have big games on the opening weekend. Duke Opens Against Kansas Kentucky Opens Against Michigan State. Michigan State opened against Kentucky. Kansas opens against Duke. I don't understand like why it is such a non starter for some coaches to actually play compelling basketball right from the jump particularly when then it is also the other teams first game now tonight at the Naval Academy Auburn David Singer going to play. It will be Auburn. Second Game Davidson's first game. Perhaps there there Bob mckillop could say listen opening against Auburn. It's tough and also like Auburn already. Got One game under their belt. We don't that that places us at a disadvantage but when it's when it's your first game and somebody else's first game I don't get the big issue with you. You know it's gotTa be eastern Washington or somebody like eastern Washington for instance. You and I were both up very very late on Tuesday night I went to bed like around. Four four forty got up around. The antics forty slept two hours traveled home. And under I promise you if Syracuse playing eastern Washington I would not have watched that game I would have gone straight the bit but because they were playing a relevant opponent I watched the entire game and I don't know whatever whatever drawbacks there might be to opening with equality opponent if you are also a quality team I think the advantages for the sport outweigh the disadvantages because it does provide an interesting early matchup when we otherwise. If left up to coach we wouldn't have. I agree and and the details that you laid out out there with the pro leagues. Obviously there are official schedule makers in those that the coaches never have and never will and the team's never have control over the schedule because it's run by the League's who are doing it with conjunction of television network contracts so with with in the NBA case with Espn and what TNT and the NFL's Kelce case with CBS and Fox and and and all that college basketball at college. Football is okay. I don't want to give the sport too much credit and I like me some college football plenty. You usually get a couple of good neutral site games in that first weekend but college. Football's problem is actually if you really look in recent years weeks six to three and sometimes four usually to those three weeks after the opening one you've got just the dregs of it. All I mean you've got power conference schools vying to get into the playoff eventually playing in schools amongst the likes of you know in East Tennessee state or a Wofford or something like that at at that college football level which I think is in some ways unavoidable but also cultural bomas almost has this weird hitch in its giddy up to start at season whereas college basketball. You get the Champions Classic Tournament so you've got you've got good Games. It's kind of spread throughout. I actually have always given the sport. I think it's due credit for how strong relatively speaking November is. It's not like we need a massive headlining then game every single night of the week and as you pointed out something like that on Thursday was inevitable but when you get reaction it's like we got parish from behind and other coaches that would that that would react similarly. It's because they control the schedule they always have. They always want to and the reason why we are in this kind of situation. Is That College Basketball College. Football Paul doesn't actually have a commissioner looking out for the the big picture wellbeing and benefit of the sport. I think it would benefit if you could do that but I don't even know how you get all get your arms around all of that because yeah in a perfect world college basketball for five five. Six seven consecutive nights would have an undeniable headline match up. You have to watch this kind of game but given how scheduling works. We're just not GONNA GONNA get that what we have now. I think is plenty good and as we're going to get to in a few minutes here like this week in slate going up against football's actually. It's fairly impressive. Overall given the teams that are involved but bay where he reacts because Coaches Want to control their non conference schedule as much as they can so they can get more wins that helps their contract obviously helps their career numbers there and when you coach in the ACC and you've got to go against all these tough teams eventually. Anyway you want to try and minimize that as so I don't blame behind for saying what he said but to me. I'm just more interested when you can get top fifty type programs playing as often as possible in November all right. Let's move on Koa. Anthony had a historic debut at North Carolina. Earlier this week. We'll get into that next but first check this out. Are you looking for sports to be decoded from a unique perspective. I'm I'm David Samson. 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You need to hear that unmistakable dose of performance enhancing using audio every week. It's the state of combat. podcast with the Brian cavell subscribe download today so a night after possible number one overall Pick James Wiseman got twenty eight points eleven rebounds and three blocks in just twenty two minutes in his debut at Memphis possible number one overall pick away and he got thirty four points eleven rebounds and five assists and thirty seven minutes in his debut for North Carolina. He was twelve twenty four from the field. Six of eleven from three. His thirty four points aches. Were more points than any. UNC Freshman had ever previously scored in a debut. That includes Michael Jordan. Vince it's Carter Jerry. Stackhouse Tyler Hands Bro. Leaky black everybody norlander Cohen th-these debut which came against real competition. Titian specifically Notre Dame a sign of things to come is he going to be college basketball's biggest individual attraction. It's looking like it. That's what I wrote on the site. Yeah I mean at least a half dozen times in the preseason. I think I mentioned on this podcast a couple of times as well but I do love and I love that. I know why wasn't wasn't playing against what was it. South Carolina state like Carolina State South Carolina State. Who's the coach at South Carolina State? I can't even tell you that I know. Do you know 'cause they play Adam. Yeah I I only knew it because Memphis played them and I've already forgot it. Okay so you knew it now you anyway. The point of making. Here's Wiseman had a great start tyree smacks. We talked about on the previous podcast. I'm loving that right away. We are having these big time freshman step in immediately be impact. Doc Plays I think Cole Anthony will be just the one that shines brightest because of the programming place toward the role. He's going to have and how much they will rely on him. More in Memphis will rely on Wiseman more than Kentucky will rely on Maxi and we'll wait and see what other freshmen step into this. I think it's going to be a fun year for Freshman. In fact I think at this stage maybe we have of a maybe under hyped a little bit collectively how good the freshman class could be. How about this? How about a trivia time for GP? Ready Okay okay okay. Okay Trivia. A time in the last fifteen years only three division one freshmen have had a game with at least thirty points. Ten rebounds five five assists in five made three pointers in that game colon. Anthony obviously one of them who were the other two Devon endowing know the names leaky black not Devin Downey not leaky blackouts dominant down black but no audible dame so you can get these thirty points. Ten rebe thirty points. Ten rebounds five threes and five assists in the same game only happened three times times in the past fifteen years. Coal Anthony is one of the idea. trae Kobe trae young. Oh Yeah trae young and then Steph curry curry sure very gettable but hugest just pulled the ripcord on that way too soon. trae young Steph curry in Kuwait City in Coney unlike the other two does it in his first game against a power conference team extremely serenely impressive wrote the by the way he went with the wrecks. Start Yeah that was. The line. Didn't like got rid of them. Pretty quickly I know but I kinda I like it back. I got trivia time for you. Okay okay only two players have ever done what I'm about to describe. Hook averaged at least twenty points at least five assists while shooting at least fifty percent from the field it is I seven. NBA Games to people ever done it named him NBA NBA Kobe. No Okay Twenty points at least twenty points at least five assists assists wall shooting at least fifty percent for the field through seven career games. How did you even come upon this? You'll know as soon as I tell you. It's not Kobe White. Unfortunately is it future leaky black. I would probably. He'll be the third I would assume but he's not there yet. Is One of them currently rookie. Yep As the other one recent rookie knew how old is the other one old enough to be called the goat Jordan. Michael Jordan is one of them rant and Jomhuri other. These have drafted the next Michael Jordan in his name is John Moran Averaging Twenty points above five assists shooting above eighty percent from the field through seven career games. All right. Let's get back to Kuwait. What the hell does that have to do with Anthony? I just wanted to brag about jamboree a love it man loves his job in awesome right off off the bat. No doubt if he's awesome he's been awesome right off the bat. Oh you want more John Marantz I was GonNa say College Basketball podcast or not like if we want to occasionally give Shasta the job like as far as I'm concerned college basketball she's still take some ownership over them so I don't I don't oppose war. You know what sometimes I see these players move on and you J- just college basketball fans just like it's so off the radar particularly if they're playing for a bad team and yes. It's been like one minute more on this but John has been awesome through seven games of his NBA career he is third in the NBA in fourth. Quarter points. Right now James Harden and Damian Lillard or one and two and third is John Moran so he's He's already being awesome just like Cohen. Anthony was awesome the other night. That's my way of circling back to him. What's interesting most about about? Not just what he did but like literally. The first two days of the season I was thinking about this the other day so we spend the entire offseason talking about what's to come and whether it's you and I or other people people there starts to become a consensus opinion on things like like Michigan State should be the number one team in the country in the favourite to win the national championship or cash. Winston should be the preseason national player of the year and yet two days into the season. If if I asked you right now. WHO's your pick to win the national championship or right now? Who should be national player of the year? You probably you might. I don't know what you'd say. But you might not say Michigan State and you almost certainly wouldn't say cash Winston that's interesting. Yeah that's why I get concerned with group. Think when this happens almost every single preseason because usually that winds up being incorrect but with coal anthony. I'll be through one game very much on the money's there and I think what he did against Notre Dame will be a common occurrence. I do think from a you should standpoint volume a. He is going to be that guy. I mean Carolina was my pick to win the urge. Komo finish atop the league standings if you will. I think they're gonNA wind up sharing that with Virginia but I couldn't have been more pleased and seeing him do what he is doing and through granted. It's just one game but I was looking before. How about this? There are so can can palm has player of the year standings so call Anthony's currently the number one here. Here's here's the top ten. Through three days worth of data coal entity one tyrus Maxi to cash US Winston Three Marcus Howard. Who had like doc thirty seven or something? I think he had a really good thirty eight thirty seven or thirty eight. Yeah he's four Jordan. Warren Louisville had a good game at Miami is five Marco. Marcus Santos Toast Silva if I gave you one hundred guesses. Could you tell me who marcus. Marcus Santa Marcus Silva Place for you. Like I don't sit in Studio uh-huh for eighteen showdown there you go. You know what you're doing. VCU He's VCU one of six one of the one of the top six scores from last seasons team to return to this season. VCU Team Vcu. The only team in the country to win it's league last season by multiple games and return the top-scored scores. Don't ever question me about the rams again. You sound like a man that might have emceed in Atlantic ten media. Evan you're talking to the ten media date MC GONNA ask me who marcus arcus Saito. Is that my seven is Peyton Pritchard. Eight is Trade Jones nine. I don't even know how this is possible. But allies Hughes at a Syracuse. Is the ninth most important player through three days. According to Ken Palms play the Algorithm. And then key. Hey Clark coming in at number ten but yeah no call anthony be an awesome Wiseman Maxi loving all of that eager to see what they do in the games to come but a good thing for college hoops just to have those high profile guys immediately have really good Games. They are already Must Watch okay. So this is the Friday podcast and in November. The schedule is kind of weird. Not Our schedule. We're going to be here every Friday but the the best college college basketball schedule is kind of. It's not unusual because it is exactly the same every November. But it's unusual in the sense that we're used to watching college basketball games on Saturdays and Sundays and yet Fridays Fridays. During most of the season are pretty like there's not much going on but in November there are more I think there's eleven ranked teams playing on Friday and only six playing on Saturday and it just comes down to to television college. FOOTBALL GETS PRIORITIZED FOR TV on Saturday. So it's tough to get on TV if you're a basketball team on Saturday so you play you play Friday and also like these schools don't want their fans having to choose between basketball games and football right so you put 'em on on on different days and so what we're going to do on the Friday podcast. Every day toward the end is we will highlight five games and we will pick them against the spread and if norlander wants to actually we keep up with the records. He can't keep keeping up with this okay. I'm keeping our favorite five. Let's let's just call it. The favorite five hashtag favorite five. I just came off the top of my head it. It sounds like it came off the top of your head. It's a good starting point and perhaps it'll be where we land but for now. Sure favorite five. Is that what we just center or the faith five F F F IV okay that's five games We'll pick them against the spread. Every Friday I will be in charge of picking out the gangs things because I'm the one in charge of scripting this however much we script itself we'll start Friday six o'clock eastern number twenty four Auburn Against Davidson. That's that's in the veterans classic. You can watch that on the CBS sports network I will be in studio at the. CBS Broadcast Center for pregame Halftime postgame. Whatever else again Auburn against Davidson at the US Naval Academy Auburn Minus One and a half norlander picket for? Yeah and by the way. Let's do this by the way going forward I. I don't want to know the Games ahead of time that way. We can have some time with this so because I actually don't I mean I got an idea but this is a good game so I this is like a how high quality game against six o'clock Friday night. CBS Sports Network. I got Davidson ahead of Auburn in my one. Two three fifty three. This is a neutral court game. I gotta go and Auburn rates as the better team Ken Palm Right now. But I'M GONNA GO Davidson here. I'm going to go Davidson to cover I'll say Davidson. Like Gimme Davidson like seventy nine. Seventy three BOB mckillop. This could be a top three team that he's had interest intrigued to see. What Auburn is? We talk so much about Virginia reigning title. How they come off season Auburn coming off just completely devastating stating loss in the final four? You know so what will they look like after losing some NBA talent there. I think it'll be good. I think tournament but I think Davidson's the better team. So gimme Bob mckillop. Obviously obviously Auburn lost most lost some of lost the best players off of last season's team but they still bring back okay so they played for Jinya in the final four. They used eight players in that game. Five no eight players play double digits in that game double digits minutes and they returned turned five of those eight. So they're missing. Jared Harper again their best players. But there's still a lot of pieces back from a team that went a whole bunch of games. That's this this is game by the way opened over minus three so it's been moved down to auburn minus one and a half whatever you WANNA make that. I've got Auburn ahead of Davidson. And the top twenty five in one but I do have Davidson also in the top twenty five and one so for my purposes. It's a game between two rank teams. I'm I'm the Atlantic ten in Media Day. WHO ARE I? Don't know how I could pick Akins Davidson given that reality. So I'll take Davidson. Plus the one and a half will all agree on that one Friday. Seven o'clock eastern Colorado state at number four Duke. Duke is a twenty four point favorite New Orleans picket Colorado state at Duke. I mean first of all Colorado State's got to do that you recently discovered Nico you're Acting like I don't sit in studio and provide halftime commentary on Mount wits game. I believe it was a text message. Two weeks ago where you're like wait. The Second Nico Carvalho led led the nation and rebounding last season should have been like our sixtieth ranked player in our top one hundred and one. We had him way too. Low He is kind of ECHO. GEICO Corvette Joe Average sixteen point one points. Twelve point nine rebounds last season and now. He's going into Cameron Indoor Stadium. Watch out yeah random Friday night game for Duke What was that line twenty four? Now I'm riding with Niko medved in his rams was riding with the Rams to cover that. Yeah for sure. GimMe Duke to win but could be due to win. Like seventy seventy nine sixty six predict the Niko carpaccio. Stay Stat Line. ooh That's actually that's a good. That's a good one. Because he's he's listening he's going against big boy there in Vernon Carey very who told me when he played Euka as Buki on on Tuesday night that that was by far the most fiscal player. He you've ever going against like he's A. That was my welcome to college moment. Like I never faced a dude that strong before and I don't think Nico is quite a strongest strongest dope. But he's six eleven to fifty so it's going to be another rough game for Vernon Carey I'll say Nico Eighteen points. Fourteen boards. ooh ooh. I'll say I'll go NICO. Twenty one points thirteen rebounds. Duke wins the game but Colorado State covers Friday nine thirty eastern this go into Washington Against Number Sixteen Baylor. It's an Anchorage Alaska. Baylor a five point favorite. You ever been to Alaska. I have never been to Alaska same. I'd like to get there. That's that's definitely on the to do. This just seems like a long way to go it. Just be cold or you can go in June. It's not gonna be cold in June. I'm busy into all right now. Really Alaska JR generally early intriguing. What would like to would like to go to Alaska? Tom Saying this is super intriguing. Washington has some fun talent quasi green. It's GonNa be eligible here and how good Washington is this season could ultimately come back to if quad green can make a noticeable jumped from the player that he was at Kentucky Baylor considered to be maybe the second best team in the big twelve to Kansas. Maybe we wind up finding out that Baylor can be just as good as Kansas I. I don't know we'll wait and see Tristan Clark. Not really much of a factor in Baylor's game against the central. Arkansas bears a one zero five sixty one win for Baylor on Tuesday in the first game of the season. Just so you know but I will take. What was that line again? Baylor minus five yeah. I'm attack Washington. I'll take Washington to cover but lose. GimMe Baylor Sixty eight sixty five. I have long been the president of the Sky Fan club way before it was cool to be the president of Scott Van Glove. I'M GONNA GO BAYLOR MINUS five but I do like this Washington team or I. I like the makeup of the Washington team. I mean you got to Said this I believe on the last podcast to projected or to podcast ago recent podcast to projected lottery pigs plus a dude who used to start at Kentucky. Like that's that's a pretty nice roster and so I do think Washington is going to be very very good. Would if if if I had a top twenty five and two Washington would probably be twenty-seven right now but I will take Baylor to to win the game. Baylor minus five will move onto Saturday. Seven o'clock Eastern. This is a good one Texas at number twenty three perdue. There is no line nine posted yet so I just took the Qin projection and I would think the line is going to be a little lower than this but Kim has a projected purdue minus nine nine. Yeah that's a lot do we by the way. So it's do we know why like maybe a listener will know this but I. I've actually never researched as to why this is. Maybe it's because of time between game I don't even think that's it like the NFL. When the Games end Sunday the lines for the next next week are available but in college basketball? You don't get the lines until twenty four hours usually before the game play. GP Do you know why that is nope. No idea no I I. It's usually the line will come out late the night before the late the day prior someone. WHO's a complete degenerate? Please tweet at us. Let us know and we'll Maybe we'll talk about it and give a reason. Why the next? But I've actually wondered why that is the case because I'm surprised that the line for Texas purdue is not actually yet but Ken Palm as a general rule The lines are usually within a point. Definitely almost always within two points. It's rare that you'll get more than a two point difference in spread between the Ken projection action and with the line winds up being. So we'll go with purdue minus nine that being said I will take Texas here. I don't think there is. I don't think we'll come to find that. There's you too much difference between Texas Mathu at the end of the season. This is a road game tasty one. Hey I love it to power teams playing in an on campus environment. That's GonNa be a tough task for for Texas. I don't think a win but I will take if we're going to go to minus nine. GP GIMME Shock. Has Longhorns to win this. I'll go purdue along the lines of say seventy seventy five to sixty nine so purdue to win protects us to cover your purdue wins the game because the game being played in West. That's Lafayette if this game. Were playing in Austin. Texas would win the game. I'll take purdue to win but if you're going to give me Texas plus nine outtake Texas plus nine one note in Ut's opener. Andrew Jones Got Twenty points in twenty nine minutes. That was Just terrific to see I remember talk into shock about him. I guess at USA basketball in late. July early August whenever we were there and He was encouraged by what he was seeing. Obviously this is a young man who battled leukemia. And when you were battling Kimia Getting on the back on a basketball court and performing at a high level is like way low on the on the list of things. You're dreaming aiming about hoping for he's healthy. Obviously that's the most important thing but Healthy plus being a productive college basketball player. They're just awesome. Awesome stuff so I didn't see Texas opener but I'll have a chance to watch this one looking forward to seeing Andrew Jones on the court again performing wing upper due to win the Game Chore But Texas Plus Nine. If I can get that. That's what I'll take. We'll wrap it with this one Saturday. Eleven PM Eastern Boise State at Number Fifteen Oregon Oregon minus eleven. Look at you. This one's way off the board. I like it. Leon Rice's Broncos who would you call them the bulls like a month ago. Hogs maybe Boise State Bulbul going on with that Eleven o'clock eleven o'clock tip on a Saturday on PAC twelve network. What are we doing here? I don't see that you you see if you offered me five hundred dollars to figure out how to watch that game and just be you just have to keep your money All right I'll go with Oregon to win their my direct. TV Bill. Four hundred dollars a month. I CanNot Watch the PAC twelve network. Impossible it's just so stupid Yeah GimMe Oregon to to win and a cover. Eleven points is not insignificant. Actually think Boise. The state will be a clear cut top three team in the mountain west season. But at this point I would trust the ducks to to get someone of blowout win. I'll take Oregon will win the game. Boy What Boise State plus eleven. I'll take boise state plus eleven. It'll be a single digit Oregon victory. That'd be good enough for Boise state to cover. So those are the picks six of the five games coming up on Friday night and Saturday and like I said every single Friday. We'll we'll we'll we'll carve out five games and really in addition to picking them. Who Cares gives? It's an opportunity to talk briefly. Hopefully about five different games to sort of touch on five things. That should be interesting from from the weekend. So with that South Devon downing she has suggest to South Carolina she has to Terry Mto. He's alleged she has to learn now. 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Full Episode: Tuesday, August 4, 2020

World News Tonight with David Muir

20:05 min | 10 months ago

Full Episode: Tuesday, August 4, 2020

"Tonight several developing stories as we come on the air the storm that slammed into the east has a hurricane then tracked north tonight, it has been deadly billions without power in the middle of this. Deadly storm slamming ashore overnight in the Carolinas roaring up the East Coast today Washington DC Philadelphia New York City incomes catching fire a tornado outbreak across several states. Homes destroyed a mother protecting her daughter covered her in the bathtub. They survived the high water rescues tonight drivers on their cars. In New York City, a sixty year old man killed when a tree fell on his car at the danger tonight the down power lines, the explosions one right near our reporter in the middle of. Her interview and where the storm is right now, we're also following a major headline from overseas tonight the massive and deadly explosion in Beirut destroying buildings at least sixty kill more than three thousand injured. Those numbers still expected to rise into the evening hours and the early clues what might have been behind the explosion, the president making news tonight the interview from axios on Hbo the President. Of the pandemic the charts saying the US has lower than the world, the reporter asking lower in. The back and forth at followed about the death rate and on Cova deaths in this country the president at one point saying it is what it is at news tonight male unbalanced the president appearing to change course at least when it comes to one key battleground state Florida. Going back to school the first wave of students and reports of positive covid test results in hard hit Mississippi tonight the governor there now ordering students to wear masks, hundreds of teachers out sick and Georgia in Indiana, a student tested positive on day one. Tonight after that family children ordered to the ground police saying they thought it was a stolen vehicle but what's happened now? US authorities part of the rescue after this SOS, is seen from the sky. This is ABC news tonight with David Muir. To, have you with us here on a Tuesday night and let's get right to it major news on the virus, the horrific and deadly explosion in Beirut and the deadly storms sweeping through several cities right up the East Coast Day today. There are still tornado watches in parts of the Northeast as we come on the air tonight and more than three million Americans without power. Now in the middle of this pandemic hurricane, SAS making landfall as a Category One hurricane in North Carolina and the overnight hours wins topping. Eighty miles per hour, and in one location wind gusts hit one hundred miles per hour. The storm igniting fires several homes went up in flames and I'll beach the storm has turned deadly tonight here in New York City the damaged trees down the sixty year old man was killed when a tree fell on his car. We're also monitoring massive power outages stretching from the Carolinas up to Massachusetts the close call in Suffolk County New York several people running out of the way a strong winds downed trees in their neighborhood. The storm unleashing a tornado outbreak that mother protecting your daughter in the bathtub, they provide a hospital daycare center in Bucks County Pennsylvania damaged several children are being treated for injuries. Tonight, this system is now a tropical storm it's racing north across parts of upstate New York and into New England. So we'll have the current track for you, and of course, the damage, and so we begin with our chief national affairs correspondent Tom Yomas. Right here in. New York. Tonight the winds rain and storm surge from SIS taking lives carving the East Coast and hitting major cities in the northeast as powerful tropical storm trees down across New York City. This one killing a sixty year old man in queens strong damaging winds from SIS torture parts of Brooklyn Line Sycamore trees in this part split in half the massive branches crashing down and crushing. Cars below the heavy rain quickly flooding roads and trapping drivers on interstate seventy, six near Philadelphia. No scared are fighting to. She thought she was gonNA drown outside Washington DC two cars with multiple people inside swept off the road some clinging to trees one on the roof teams, rescuing them with rafts, an air boat. No one seriously hurt and across the northeast multiple tornado warnings. This photo cloud spotted in ocean city new, Jersey and homes throughout this Delaware neighborhood torn apart. But the really bad part of this area is this house right here. But the whole backhaus of the house is gone the tree lifted up out of the ground. At that point, that's when I saw the whole back of the house coming off of the property I thought is thank God that we're here God spare my wife. And my voice powerful winds from a likely Tornado in Birdie County North Carolina flipping cars and splintering multiple homes to were killed twenty hurt. Tunisia Thomas was home with her daughter. We made it in the bathtub and I put my body over her. Hit me at the time. Did you lose everything? East of Richmond Virginia homes knocked from their foundations. Isa Making Dangerous late night landfall just north of Myrtle beach as a category one hurricane with sustained winds of eighty five miles an hour. Those powerful winds drowning out our rob Marciano on Carolina Beach. Plus life threatening storm surge flooding homes bearing cars and sand and filling homes with debris in Oak Island north, Carolina residents, writing out the ferocious winds and surging water in the dark house show. First Time I was in a house that ever showed. powerline sparking fires on Ocean Isle Beach Multiple homes engulfed thankfully empty as most had evacuated. That's just incredible. Let's get right to Tommy's live in Brooklyn tonight and Tom we can see that partial collapse behind you right into the second floor of that building. But I know you were telling US earlier. There was another major word today with these high winds as first responders were still out there answering calls. That's absolutely right. David. So the winds picked up here in Brooklyn building collapses the firefighters rushing they realized nobody's inside that's the good news but then they also realize the winds are still picking up. This could all be projectiles they shut off the block luckily, nobody was hurt here David that is always the worry with debris Tom, thank, of course, all of this, playing out his hospitals treat patients in this pandemic as families try to stay safe, and now millions are without power as we head into the night and right here this evening the moment the explosion from down power lines in the middle of our reporters interview illustrating the danger as we head into the Night Stephanie Ramos from New Jersey. Hurricane. Isa. Sponge waterspouts along the Jersey shore and brought with wind gusts over a hundred miles an hour we started feeling in Cape May New Jersey just after nine. Am that washing machine feeling. That's what we're in right now would actually just calm down in the last five seconds but the wind the rain, the sand, just really whipping around those winds knocking down traffic lights, trees, and power lines putting more than three million in the dark across the storm zone more than a million. Just a New Jersey should you have to go out and come across a downed power line? Please immediately reported to emergency services. Someone reported this sparking line and while we were interviewing emergency manager. Jerry wise it exploded. No one was hurt. This is basically a result of the storm power lines down causing fires and explosions in scripture. You saw what can happen tonight hospitals up and down the storm zone that we're dealing with the corona virus. Now, dealing with this storm to these coastal communities, no stranger to powerful stores and all kinds of weather emergencies. But this time it's different to say, this is not an easy endeavor in the midst of a pandemic would be the understatement of the day. David the city manager tells US electrical teams were delayed in getting to this area because of damage across this region. The Governor of New Jersey says, that is the challenge they're seeing all over the state. These crews will be here through the night and into tomorrow until power is fully restored. David, we're glad you were standing a distance from those power lines a good reminder for everyone as we head into the night Stephanie Thank you. Of course, the storm is still on the move at this hour. So let's get right. Ginger Zee with a late track ginger. That storm just raced of the East Coast. So fast today and I want to take you straight to the map because there are still tornado watches out for parts of New England including Massachusetts, New Hampshire, you can see some of the moisture that has now moved almost the Canadian border. So that's GonNa be gone in the next couple of hours, but the winds are still gusting behind it anywhere from thirty to sixty miles per hour. So you're still going to have that from Boston up through Massachusetts into upstate New York we're going to be keeping on that and. Of course, the timing of it all we're going to say goodbye to sis by tomorrow David Good riddance. Sorry. Thank you. There are awful images coming in from Beirut tonight after a massive and deadly explosion buildings destroyed at least sixty dead more than three thousand injured and those numbers are expected to rise right into the night and just before we came on this evening president trump said this look like a terrible attack in his words but would have forties in Beirut are now saying about early clues of a 'cause here's our senior foreign correspondent Ian Panel tonight. This was the movement can entice city shoot to it's As a massive explosion erupted in Beirut pools the last occurring around six PM local time I winners video showing a fire and a series a smaller detonations unconfirmed reports suggesting perhaps fireworks but what happened next was far bigger. A devastating explosion sending a mushroom cloud across the city the fronts of buildings ripped off comes shops, appointments, shattered the streets showered with Deborah for miles around as day didn't shell shock citizens staggered through blackened streets. Hospitals are overwhelmed with casualties the Lebanese health minister saying scores a dead and thousands injured the healthcare system already overwhelmed by rising covert infections and an. Economy in freefall tonight the questions begin about what caused the blast and who's responsible just unbelievable pictures tonight in with us from London tracking. This IAN president trump. As I mentioned just said quote, it looks like a terrible attack. We know that other US officials have called this a horrible tragedy. So what do officials in Beirut say right now was behind this blast David. Firstly, they're not suggesting that it was an attack. It's now pointing towards being just a tragic terrible accident. The country's interior minister saying that highly explosive material may being stored on the side even pointing towards ammonium nitrates, which is highly combustible. Bombs and in sufficient quantities capable of causing this level of massive destruction. David. Already inner thanks to you tonight and back here at home this evening at the president is making news after an interview with axios on HBO. More. Than One. Hundred fifty six thousand American lives have now been lost a covid and at one point in the interview, the president saying the US is lower than the world, the reporter asking lower and what you're about to see the back and forth and on Kobe deaths in this country the president at one point saying it is what it is. Here's Terry Moran. With his own task force members calling the pandemic. Narrowly wide spread across the country president trump in his HBO interview with Jonathan Swan of axios still insisting all is well and suggesting nothing more can be done anyway. I think it's under control. I'll tell you what how a thousand Americans dying. Dying. It's true and you have it is what it is. But that doesn't mean we are doing everything we can. It's under control as much as you can control it. This is a horrible plague that besets us more than one, hundred, fifty, six, thousand Americans have died far more than any country in the world but the president keep saying it's the testing that makes America look bad. You know there are those that say you can test too much. You do know that WHO says that Just read the manuals, read the book. Read the. Read the books and Charts in hand, Cherry picking statistics on deaths from the virus right here. United States is lowest in. Numerous categories. will lower than the world load lower than Europe in what in what take a look? Here's a case deck. The facts while the US has a relatively low death rate among those infected case debts of the countries most affected by the virus. America's one of the highest cova death rates per capita, but the president didn't WanNa hear it. Oh, you're doing death is a proportion of cases I'm talking about death as a proportion of population. That's why the US is really bad. Much worse than South Korea Germany and said, you can't do that. The interview with Axios and Terry with us now, and I do want to get to the other major headline from the president today after railing against mail and voting he appeared to change course on this at least when it comes to one key battleground Florida saying that in that state mail in voting is in his words safe and secure. David. He apparently wants his mail in votes perspective from those elderly voters all important Florida to count while he continues to undermine and try to sabotage mail and voting. In other states. The facts are clear and voting is nothing new. It's been going on since the civil war tens of millions of Americans use it and Malin batting balloting fraud is just incredibly rare. So the president still fights on many fronts but his votes coming in the mail, he wants Count David Terry we know you'll stay on this. Thank you of course, millions of parents now facing that question of what to do with schools reopening and what they're already seeing in some schools that have now opened. Here's Steve and Sami. In. Mississippi tonight, we're a handful of high schoolers have already tested positive for the coronavirus and we're many children are already heading back to classrooms. The state's governor says he was forced to act today I will sign an executive order. Their requires the use of mask by all adult and children in our schools. Unless there is a medical reason. to He says, he's also requiring face coverings for everyone in all public places, but only for two weeks and he's delaying the start of school instruction but only for older children and in areas without breaks ninety, eight percent of the ICU beds in his state have someone in them and one out of every five people tested for the virus is testing positive the highest rate in the nation at the University of Mississippi Medical, center in Jackson they ran out of bed in the ICU ago anytime Abed Opens up there multiple patients waiting for that bad. The death rate from the corona virus across the country this week as twenty, four percent higher than last week according to the government twenty eight states are seeing an increasing number of hospitalizations outside Atlanta hundreds of teachers are out sick the crane family and Georgia sent their kids to school today with masks. The father says it was a difficult decision ammo bit concerned. I, heard on the first half of the children are wearing their mask the other half. Dozen I completed my work. And everything went show but. I wasn't really happy with the people who were wearing masks and Phoenix teachers concerned about getting sick or protesting how do we keep them six feet apart and how do we keep them safe from each other teachers in eastern Arizona? have already lost a friend Kimberly Lopez bird was loved by her students and her superintendent says, he's concerned about reopening classrooms I'm scared that somebody's GonNa die. Here in Georgia and Turkey County, the family of a second grader is learning that their child tested positive for the corona virus and school only started yesterday. This means that that child's entire classroom of twenty students and the teacher now have to quarantine at home for two weeks, we're going to hear more of these school year. David is just getting started very difficult road ahead Steve. Thanks. 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Final Four Picks and Betting Tips: Texas Tech vs Michigan State and Auburn vs Virginia

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Final Four Picks and Betting Tips: Texas Tech vs Michigan State and Auburn vs Virginia

"That thou board. Never will. I bet you twenty bucks. I can't look for the end of the day. He'll fifteen grand how pay. Pay. That's men his Manny. It's the board podcast. Really, really like. I won't bright back for stone. I could still pick winners, and I can still make money for all kinds of people back home. And why mess up a good thing airs pain insider and Todd. Into the the board podcast powered by bed. Online dot AG from sixty eight to sixty four to thirty two to sixteen to eight now down to the final fours. We figure out who will be cutting down the nets Monday night for Minneapolis. I am your fearless leader ferment joined as always by my steam colleague coast, a man who gave out a fever on this podcast, or maybe the first time in college basketball history with Michigan state last week and the one the only pain insider, I'm still checking your math on that from sixty four thirty two to double check chicken scratch right here to make sure that I was having the numbers the right way. And I didn't miss one of the interval somewhere in there. No, your math checks out. I carry the seven and and at the two and. Hey, they say long division at this point is lost on kids without calculator. So I like to think we're a part of a throwback generators go. Remember, the Texas Instruments the ad to have it was like one hundred and eighty dollar calculator at the time had to have that thing. Yeah. You had a couple of cool yet a couple of cool games on there like race car, or whatever it was that you had to try and dodge some of the obstacles. I mean, I feel everybody on phones these days, you don't need to fancy graphing calculators. Don't you don't a favor is that is that something I don't usually do is that what you're you're telling me. I sent people say we do a lot of things around here. In bet the board country we've been on how many years we've been doing this for five years. So what do you think we give out favorites? Whether it's college basketball college football of the NFL fifteen percent of the time, or do you think if I'm sending over under there? I don't know. I don't really I mean winter. Here's the thing winners or winners, but we tend to gravitate towards unders underdogs. So it's always funny. We give out a favorite I immediately. Get text would soon as our show goes. Whoa. You guys are on a favourite and public favored at that said just wait the game's gonna play out we're going to build a double digit lead early. And we're gonna kick back, and that's exactly what happened Tom is only speak to about nine people. Well, that's up that's up from six that you told me earlier this week. So I don't know where you met three people over the last five good mood speaking to people recently. What are we doing today? We're going to break down the two games. We're going to have to do it on our own as Nick, boss. Daddy, reduce. Yeah. He's carried us through the first couple podcast. But we told hey, we got it from here. Nick, we'll take it to the finish line. Dave Mason, of course, will be here to join us a little bit later to share how the books have done and what they're looking at for this weekend. Upcoming podcast. We'll get to that tail end of the show and we've talked and teased NFL draft stuff. But we haven't discussed it behind the scenes just yet. Two games. Quick update on the futures bet online. Eight Virginia priced at three two two Michigan state to to one Texas Tech four to one Auburn six to one favorites in the final four pain since two thousand five twenty four and five straight up. So it's interesting when you factor that in one last thing before we actually get into the games themselves. Anything that you watch basketball perspective surprise you last weekend? Surprise me. I I don't know. I love myself from Texas sex defense social in the second half against. Saga? I thought that was was very impressive. And I wasn't on the game. But I was a little nervous coming in. I wasn't sure how TEC would handle Gonzaga's bigs? That was the biggest thing for me. It's what kept me off tech tech switches everything and we saw it against Michigan. But Michigan's big men they just weren't good enough to like. Take those opportunities in capitalize. But I thought is big could potentially do that they didn't. So that was one thing. That was interesting just how they choked out Gonzaga in the second half held on the thirty six percent shooting. If you actually look at that game break it down Texas Tech in the second half only allowed eight total shots. The first nineteen minutes the second half. It was just remarkable the other thing, I just I thought the games were also I thought the elite was fantastic you had big name schools in there. I'm all about an upset in the first round. And maybe a Cinderella. But you just get a better product on the court when the best teams get together for the Sweet Sixteen in lead eight the other thing, I was busting your balls about a little bit about was the produce Virginia bad beat that was going around social media a little bit. I had a different take. True. I understand that. I mean, I know the tweet referencing there that I felt bad for folks that had Purdue plus four and a half. But if you to broken everything down for expected feel percentage and Carson Edwards pulling out from the parking lot Purdue goes from being an unlucky loser. And regulation to probably not being the right side for what we do in this business. If you unpack the game for the full forty five I mean, I came away. Saying to myself Virginia Purdue played one hundred times, you might only need two hands to count the number of times prove eat beets Virginia. I mean Carson Edwards has this out of body experience on the floor that night even a great night where he goes for like twenty eight or thirty the it's a double digit blow out, you know, he's banking in threes. Taken these step back twenty one footers over six ten lottery. Picks draining them even take that. Once a further I had like Purdue I was shocked. I was very surprised as soon as the game on my Jesus they gotta homecourt advantage in here. Like the crowd was like packed with boiler fans. You spot them ten point lead? 'cause I just didn't miss early. I don't know you put it all together like Edwards. Couldn't miss the home court advantage. You spot him ten point lead. You still couldn't win cover if you're produce. So I just I don't think there's a successful sports better that kind of that game at halftime and said man produce the side here, and I just I didn't feel like they were ever going to cover when even even Virginia downtown. I'm like, I feel okay here. Didn't bet the game. But we had the the region future. Plus thirty didn't hedge it didn't middle. And I'm like, this is going to be a hell of a way to lose. This damn thing. Virginia extends it to like eight. I think in the second half like, oh, they're going to run away with this thing. And then Edwards like goes for phase two of the ridiculous shot making. So to me, I just I envisioned that that would stop right because you watch these games, and you see a guy like Matt mcquaid, for instance, in those two matchups against Carson Edwardson Purdue early in the season. Matt mcquaid for Sparty is like taking caution Edwards out of the game. Like put the clamps on it. I'm like, okay. So. Tony Bennett defense is eventually going to turn this thing around. But using Tony Bennett presser he's like tell you that kid. Drove me nuts. I ripped up my defensive play sheet. I just had to throw up my hands. I didn't know what to do anymore. Well, I mean, you could see them extending their defense, and it didn't matter. I mean, he was Steph curry type range pulling the ball from a handful of feet inside the midcourt line. I'm getting everything to fall highlighted by the Bank that you thought was going to be the backbreaker Virginia. But thankfully for improbable sequences and Cisco de Akita also known as mama d Akita. But with the blonde hair, I gotta give proper shutout getting the shot to fall at the end of regulation and Virginia dodging polit-, which I think pain provides a perfect segue to Virginia matching up to a team. That's look like the greatest thing since allies. Like Marshall Mathers in the blonde hair. I thought that was the transition. No, I figure I feel like he looks more like Sesco than anything. True. You were big fan of the song. I mean, it may have given me an earworm or to back in the day when I couldn't shake it. All right. So when we look into two games, of course, Minneapolis US Bank stadium. Home of the Minnesota. Vikings will be the venue for these two contests. Auburn Virginia will kick things off six oh nine eastern on Saturday. You're looking at Virginia a five and a half point favorite bet. Online dot E G total in this game. One thirty and a half and pain when we look at the roads that both these teams have taken again here. Auburn three and one against the number wins over New Mexico state, Kansas North Carolina and Kentucky first team since nineteen ninety seven to beat the three winningest programs in route to a final four airs own of course, cut down the nets that year Virginia. Meanwhile, they haven't exactly gone through college basketball powerhouses fail to cover against Gardner Webb beat Oklahoma by double digits got to the window needed to outlast, Oregon and then cover with late aerobics against Purdue to into against the number before we get to the players on the court. I want to start with the head coaches. Tony Bennett eleven and six straight up in the dance three and four against top eight seeds, Bruce Pearl five and one in the NCAA. Ornament with Auburn eight and six during his time at Tennessee in two and two at the Panthers. Wisconsin Milwaukee who do you give a coaching edge to with extended Tyner repair knowing how this game will work out. Whatever you think about Bruce Pearl then gaffe to give them credit for what he's doing. It. All burn great recruiter. Obviously, great motivator his players. Love him. You can tolerate they're like willing to run through a brick wall for the guy. Made to the final four God forbid cuts. The next down does something over and hasn't done before. So I think kudos to Bruce Pearl. But I don't think anyone's gonna confuse pro with being this master tactician. He's not the best Xs and os guy. Tony Bennett, I superior in regard. What's interesting here, though, when I was looking at the coaching match there is some familiarity Bruce Pearl came out Monday during his presser, and I listened to that. And he was talking about he was coaching at Milwaukee in two thousand one and he says, I all but stole my defensive principles from the team playing nearby in Wisconsin, which was actually dick Bennett's team. Tony's father so Bruce Pearl credits. The Bennett family for his denial heavy defensive principles, which I thought was was pretty interesting in Pearl still uses them to this day. Now you look at like the Bennett family fast forward a little bit. Dave completely changed their defensive strategy up. It's this pack line defense. I think it'll be fun to see which works best in this matchup, but just a ton of familiarity with the coaching styles in this game. And when we look at it two teams Virginia making its first trip to the final four since nineteen Eighty-four Auburn its first ever appearance in a game of this magnitude Virginia comes in pain, thirteen and one the last fourteen games shooting less than forty percent, though. The last two games the dance. Meanwhile, I look at Auburn winners of twelve straight games, including five wins teams ranked in the top twenty eighty s wise eight and four and we talked about the blue bloods, they had to go through to get there. But when you break this matchup down, I guess we can start with Auburn we know about Harper Brown. But how big a loss is Okita in the middle given that we saw Auburn finally struggled for the first time in your March madness scoring in the half court against the team that they know all too. Well in Kentucky massive, I think this is the game where that losses really felt. I really do. And you mentioned obviously like Harper and Brown to the lifeline to the Auburn offense. It's. It's really on those two guys to break down the defense either get to the rim, which which Harper did a fantastic job against Kentucky doing or their job is to force help. And then kick to an open shooter because they rely on the three a lot, obviously. And when you're looking at what Virginia does again, they play the pack line defense. They do a good job. Not allowing you to get to the rim. They are trying to force you to shoot threes. So that's pretty interesting and it's evident, right? When you look at a lot of their metrics Virginia's three hundred and thirty eight in the country out of three hundred fifty three teams in three point field goal. Attempts allowed per one hundred trips up the court. So they want to force you to shoot long ball. This feels to me, you know, we're like Tony Bennett is gonna use that same strategy. He's gonna make a allburn rely on guys like Dunbar in pure for endowed. Mackel mortar beat them from the outside without okay. I think that's that's where this. This really comes into play. He's gonna force those answer. Larry weapons to beat them. One thing. I did notice about Auburn. And I thought was was pretty good. It was pretty telling that they could win a game against Kentucky without going to their bread and butter. Right. I was looking there seven for twenty three from deep, and this is a team that I think most of us thought, you know, for the most part lived in died by the three ball. And I was looking at some of those metrics alburns the seventh highest three point ratio to field goal attempt team in the country. But you just watched how they played a little bit right Brown. Started moving towards the basket som-. He was using some of his mid range game there. Harper and overtime, basically tact the rim effectively on a free throw shooting exhibition towards the end of the game so harbor Brown. Didn't settle when the game was on the line. I think that's important. But I think with a week to prepare for Tony Bennett, the strategy simple, right? Cut off the driving lanes. That's basically, what his pack line defense. Does force the secondary options to hit shots. Ula to this. This is exactly where aquis loss is going to be felt it's likely more minutes for a guy like Austin Wylie. He's been beneficial. Obviously rebounding the ball in the defensive end, but he just he doesn't provide the floor spacing offensively or the versatility. So I think it's a little tougher sledding for Auburn if you looked at some of those metrics in the previous two meetings against Kentucky with KiKi on the floor and with him off. It was staggering the points per possession. Nearly cut in half that game. Does not go over unless there is overtime obviously against Kentucky. Like, I just I don't think this. Auburn offense is nearly as potent without this versatile guy who can defensively rebound a little bit protect the rim. But also just space the floor offensively. It's a massive loss especially in a game like this. It sounds dumbness saying I'm going to say it anyway. So you can tell me if I'm not don't mean to come off insensitive by any stretch of the imagination given the injury suffered. I almost feel knowing the level of familiarity on. Auburn had with Kentucky to previous meetings. We know that Auburn loss by Doucet home. And we're absolutely blown out. Lexington. They had the advantages far as Xs and os and matching we're going to be knowing they needed to adjust their game plan and thirty six hours where Kentucky had no clue. What auburn's offense was going to look like without versatile. Big in the middle. Yeah. For me when I watched it. I just thought the moment felt a little bit too big for Hagen's hero. That's really what it came down to. I mean Kentucky goes out gets up early ten in. You're like, okay. This is just a style. Mismatch didn't work. Well in the first two games. It's not working well here, and then Auburn made a little bit of adjustment defensively, they basically treated hagan's like he was trade Jones, and he just hit one shot celebrated like you wanna championship afterwards. But couldn't shoot the rest of the game. They just they played off him hero. Wasn't as aggressive as we've seen, you know, just to freshman. The moment got a little bit too big in Harper and Brown just simply took over in beat those two guys. That's what it came down to. We knew Kentucky would have the advantage down low PJ Washington was fantastic. Read was fantastic. When the refs were calling straight. They allowed Auburn to play very physical down low which help them kind of beat up two of the bigger guys. But it came down to the guard play Harper and Brown just. More experienced the moment didn't get to them. They rose when the occasion got bigger in the two freshmen didn't in that. That's what I saw was being the difference in that game. And you mention guard play we know Virginia has a talented trio of guys that are capable of helping in various ways, whether it's tied Jerome or Kyle guy who found shooting stroke in the second half. After tweaking the ankle, right? When Virginia needed it keeping neck game close like we said letting Virginia Bill to Lee before Purdue battle back a little bit. And then key Clark. I think has to be a lockdown defender who has the alternate pest on is going to be a thorn in the side of Harper Brown. But the one thing pain when you go through not one thing, but we know tempo is going to be a big discussion Virginia dead last in the country. I mean more fewer possessions per game than anybody. They bleed almost twenty one seconds off the shot clock. And we look at Auburn. I mean, they're averaging nearly seventy two possessions per game in the two thousand nineteen term at the most of any remaining team. I mean, you told it to me I and we hear talked about all the time. It's easier to slow teams down than it is to speed them up. How frustrating you believe that can be for Auburn Virginia makes play in the half court from start to is going to be very frustrating. And it is. Much much easier slow game down. And if you don't turn it over that's going to be the big key in Virginia's able to dictate this game in the half court. I think it becomes very interesting. Right. You could see a scenario where potentially if Auburn is hitting shots. Maybe they try to speed this up goal little goal little press. But it's all about controlling pace here for Virginia. I think they're going to have that advantage in controlling the pace. Listen, you know, we haven't gotten to the war. We're breaking this game down yet. But it just as I look at this. And I'm talking in you see a line in Auburn has gone through the gauntlet, basically, removing all the blue bloods from this tournament from Kansas to UNC to Kentucky. And all of a sudden you're looking at this line five and a half in the entire world is on over. It's a very very telling line, and it really insinuates that that Virginia is going to be able to. Dictate the tempo of this game. And of course, we'll have Dave Mason here to share where they're seeing some of the early action on this particular contests. You mentioned how some of that may be breaking down in the side. Anything real quick on the total before we head into the second game that you've seen as far as number maybe being too high or too low given the contrast in styles. Listen, I think when this total opened a little bit lower than its core. You have the shooting sight lines come into effect oddsmakers doing a little bit better job incorporating that into these totals once you get to the final four the stadium setting. You know, there's this massive backdrop at hurt shooters the oak KiKi injury. Obviously is hurtful auburn's offense. But you know, for me, I think there could be some some areas where? These teams have some success. If auburn's hitting shots from the outside in Virginia's executing efficiently. There could be some points scored in this. When I look at this game for me bottom line Virginia's in the final four them and shot the ball. Well, at all, you know, you're talking thirty percent from three in the tournament guy had this three for twenty nine stretch from deep. I believe you have a projected lottery dozer Todd firm in like numbers out. There you go three for twenty nine from beyond the arc. Of course. Do that unguarded them, man? I don't know if that'd be a good bet to see if we at least did NBA range. I don't know if you're going through for twenty nine probably not an it's the obvious looking jumper that there was so they'd have to people that are listening to the podcast would have to trust us on the honor system because I'm not sure I ever want video footage of my hideous jumper making it to the Interweb min viral is good for things like that the board. Until it looks like a full body seizure, and they go I can't listen to this aspect pick games where even try break them down. If that's how one athletic. He is a jumper from twenty plus feet. Absolutely. And now, you've you've taken my ADD in my mind. Elsewhere, what was his guy? So like, you know, he's had these poor stretches from deep obviously turn it on a little bit in the second half of the Pru game. You know, you have this projected lottery pick in in hunter. He's played about two handfuls of good minutes all tournament. You know, Tony Bennett sat to do down. In the late stretch of the game in regulation. Started him on the bench and overtime. He affectively turned himself into like a jump shooter last week and Bentleys into him on the sidelines. You can see him kind of bench usually pretty cool and collected lays into hunter on the sidelines. Suddenly brings him back in with about three three and a half minutes to go in overtime against Purdue any starts attacking the rim at will. And you know, you're going to need more of that. One of the matchup advantages here. It is Virginia's offense the rebounding. I think right. They missed a lot of shots. Like I mentioned, but they've done a great job crashing glass. They've rebounded forty eight other MRs so far in the tournament. That is the weakness of alburns defense this season now to Bruce Pearl's credit kinda going back some of his his coaching job that he's done. Whatever he's done. He basically instill in his team that rebounding during this tournament is vital. So you're looking at an Auburn team that got crushed on the offense of glass defensive glass kind of thing. Right. They they weren't rebounding. Very well defensively. And then all of a sudden you're facing teams in this tournament like New Mexico state like Kentucky like a UNC. Those are three great offense of rebounding teams. They all rank top sixteen in that regard. They've held them in check while below average offense of rebounding performances for those three teams. Austin Wylie has been a pretty big factor on on the defensive glass. We mentioned him on the UNC podcast with creaky out with the ACL. It means more often widely. I think he's their best rebounder per forty eight minutes of per forty minutes, rather. So I think that's key. When I was looking at some of these matches Virginia, I just think hundred needs to be more focused on on not hanging out around the perimeter kind of channel that last three minutes against Purdue. When he took over the game in kind of capitalize in the paint. I think he's going to be able to get the ball on the back end of auburn's defense, which is where they're really vulnerable. It's important that that Virginia doesn't turn it over against alburns ball pressure, which which we know they're going to do. You look at Harper Brown. They liked to gamble at times if you can make the right past you can have success bigger guards have given Harper and Brown some trouble. Right. It'll be interesting to see I think if if Jerome has an advantage in the post, they don't really post him up a ton. But maybe Tony Bennett does that a little bit. There's a lot of intriguing things here. You wonder a guy like Braxton key? If he's going to get out of Tony Bennett's doghouse. He's a six eight wing. I think he probably needs more than two minutes a game. We played two minutes in the produce when you're facing an athletic team. Like, Auburn, who's got six six six seven guys that can shoot it. Maybe we see more Braxton key in this game. So this this is really intriguing to me. But the line just I keep coming back to the line paints paints, quite the picture here. Stylistically? I think for Gina has a little bit of advantage. You're certainly Auburn very athletic. But. Oh, bad sign. They're bad Santa Fe. Hopefully, we've had enough Virginia Auburn game. That's a bad omen if for for a live dog alert. So we we let's go to the nightcap where you talk about lines. And what they tell you and very curious to get your take care of Michigan state and Texas Tech. We're looking at stadi- two and a half point favorite bed. Online dot AG. Total in the game one thirty two and a half Michigan state's road to the final four included a win, but not non cover against Bradley and a trio of wins and covers against Minnesota LSU and Duke to get their first final four since two thousand fifteen meanwhile, Texas Tech covered against northern Kentucky, covered and blew out. Buffalo covered and blew out Michigan and covered against zag. The only team perfect against the number. This tournaments crispier bunch makes its maiden voyage to the final four may as well. Start with coaching in this game as well. Paying Tom Izzo eighth appearance in the round of four two hundred seventy five more career wins in any of the other remaining coaches in the tournament. Crispier Dono slouch in terms of his trajectory eighty two record in the national tournament seven in one since taking over in Lubbock. I don't see anything that immediately pops out and gives beard or is oh discernible edge over one another. I think probably the casual fan might think is own a landslide. I don't see it that way. Like, I love is. He got the Duke monkey off his back. You could tell he so badly wanted that and that one and eleven run I think it was against coach K. And is oh comes up roses. Right. Those last two big offensive possessions against Duke is calls time out designs to plays. Now. They may not have been executed how they were exactly planned as caches Winston said in the post game. But you know, sporty comes away with a lob layup to tell men, and then goings is wide open for three. So is did something right there when I look at Chris beard. In the path that he's gone through. What you mentioned, right. He takes out one of the hottest names and coaching with NATO to just took the Alabama job makes quick work of John beeline. Probably the most respected coaching college basketball and you start to look at his pedigree. And I don't think a lot of people approve of of Bob Knight's human behavior may be. But he's he's one of the best Montgomery baby. He's he's probably Bob Knight's one of the best college basketball mines. And so a lot of the stuff crispier does. It's got a lot of Bob Knight in it. And he served under him for eight years of Texas Tech. The guy can flat out coach, I think he's he's probably got a little bit more likability charm the night. But I. Beards a program builder. Right. Bottom line. He's he's great with Xs and os the players like him. He holds guys accountable. He's intense. There was an interview the other day with Bearden. Eli comes is like man, I'm really looking forward to practice one hundred five of the season. And I'm like. Does he know that? That that's kind of being anal in detail pain attention to detail. I mean, you know, I think would be like okay a little bit of micromanager. But it's clear he's hands on and this may be shocking for some of our listeners. But a lot of these head coaches. Are not as hands on as you would believe what? But I think it's it's clear. Right. Chris beard is legit. He can build a program you live in Vegas Dodd. I'm sure you LV would love to be. Talk about it. Don't wanna talk about it. I mean, no not. Well, I guess it is a knock on Marvin Menzies who was released pitching threes. I mean, let's not kid ourselves and the jury's still out of the new coach from an Xs and os stamp with the guy. They bring it from South Dakota state great, but you have zero west coast recruiting ties like, I don't quite different discussion. Greg cote. The worst of of every world known to mankind. Like he can't really coach his teams at New Mexico started tick down a little bit when his lead assistant left. So you hired a guy that that wasn't very good Xs and os wise didn't prove that he could recruit overly. Well. I mean, it was the worst higher in the world this guy. What's what's Reggie Theus up to? He's I don't know just bring in bringing Patino. Dada was gonna happen dot it was going to have this guy can coach, but the recruiting will be interesting. You saw the introduction ready rolled in the helicopter in the cheerleaders. Were welcoming him maybe gets that little Vegas vibe in his women led do things to to get players there. But I'm seeking surround go way to spent way too much time on UNLV basketball. But let's just say there is increased competition in this market for share the sports while with the Golden Knights the raiders moving here and UNLV basketball that used to be the only show in town when Tarkwa building national championship caliber teams, it is much different dynamic in this day and age, but you mentioned beard pain. And we look at what Texas Tech has done. So far this tournament. They're plus sixteen point differential average margin of victory. Fifteen points came in white-hot, thirteen and won the last fourteen games loan-loss inexplicably to West Virginia in the opening round of the big twelve conference tournament twelve and two against the number would says, hey, oddsmakers may have undervalued them. And they're doing a defense number one in the nation defensive efficiency overall the season number one in the tournament. And you look at where they rank third and points allowed per game. Second and. Opponent field goal percentage. Ninth in opponent three point field goal percentage. And they've held all of their opponents largely and check the switching defense. They employ at a recipe for success against Tom Izzo offense. It's a great question. It's always going to be tough sledding. Right. When you face the number one team defensive efficiency in college basketball, which is what Texas Tech is to me is all about caches Winston right for Michigan state offensively. And I think the positive here is we haven't seen any lingering injury of facts, right? People were talking about knee tendinitis and a torn ligament coming into the tournament. Cashes appears to be one hundred percent fine. You get an extra five six days here. Full rest before the Texas Tech game. I. Bottom line smart. He's going. His catches Winston goes. He is the straw that. Stirs the drink he gets open shots from self in his teammates. You look at all the key shooting metrics from three pointers to mid range jumpers near proximity shots. Total shots even free throws Sparty ranks top twenty five and all five of those categories. They really shoot the ball. Well, the one concern we had coming into the turn. It was Michigan say turns of all over a little bit right there. One hundred seventy six in the country and turnover percentage, they go out and they face a team that they've seen multiple times in Minnesota. And they turn it over twenty two more times again there, and you thought maybe that would be a concern that was the lone concern in the LSU game for us. But it seems like Winston stepped up his game. When the moments got bigger only seven turnovers against LSU, and and Trump wanders Zabol hawk only seven turnovers against Duke again trae Jones is a ball hawk. I think that's the key here. We know Texas Tech loves depression the ball turnover their length in the country and turnover percentage. Texas Tech as you alluded to loves to switch defensively when they do it's imperative you don't turn it over. And you get the ball. Download to tell mental ward goings once those guys get the ball. I think they have to make tech paver switching right? They're gonna have smaller guys on them. And those guys are gonna have to protect the ball. They're gonna have to be quick with their movements in they're gonna have to finish and be efficient. I think that's big. You know, Torri goings the Saint John's transfer he has been ridiculous on the back line. He is like the ultimate racer this season. He's been that in this tournament. You look at tech. They block nineteen percent of shots the rim, but their little their little lanky down there and Owens is long doesn't have a ton of. Kinda size down there. And you look at some of the at rim. Percentages tech allows fifty five percent shots the rim to go in. So I think that's that's key for Sparty. Don't turn it over get their bulky stronger. Guys. Download to take advantage of the smaller guys on them. That's that is going to be the key to this. Texas Tech has to rebound MRs hundred ninety eight in the country and defensive rebound rate Sparty top twenty five offense rebound percentage. So that's another thing to watch for here. If Sparty is getting down low they have to finish if they don't finish. Are they going to get the offense of rebounds and put back that that's really the key concern here? I think if you're Texas Tech defensively when you look on the other side of the ball pain. We know Texas Tech. Of course, led by Gerry Cole over who stock rapidly rising, maybe even into the top five initiators NBA draft. Should he declare lead the team points per game at more than twenty one rebounds per game? He's tied in assists per game. So far in the two thousand nineteen tournament. Matt Mooney brings a ton of experience. What's his third? Stop in the college circuit at South Dakota air force now, a graduate transfer here when you try and figure out how techs operate offensively against Michigan state Sparty is getting back to their roots. We look at how well they've played defensively. So far this season throughout the tournament. Can tech find any edges to export on that side of the court? I don't know right in. They're gonna have their hands full with Michigan state defense. There are no slouch, right? Like, Chris beards going to get all the defensive headlines this week Michigan state St. in that allows about eighty six points per one hundred trips up the court so MSU actually does a better job than Texas Tech defending near proximity shots number two in the country in that regard smarty also allows about five percent less shots at the rim to go in Texas tax. So for me when I look at this tech is going to have to continue to hit shots they've made over forty percent of their shots tournament. So for it might not sound great or lead to most. But you look at who they faced. Number two, number twelve in number thirty two teams in defensive efficiency. So they've done well hitting shots guys. Like moretti? He stepped up hit bigshots family flew over from Italy, see him that seems to have sparked him a little bit. Obviously text defense has played a major role, right? Basically clampdown Gonzaga. But I think for that game started you said to yourself. Hey, Culver is only gonna go five for nineteen from the floor is probably unlikely anyone thinks text beating Gonzaga you mentioned, Matt Mooney. He is another role player of sorts has hit some big shots tournament had seventeen against zags. That was the second highest out output of the season. I believe so to me I it's offenses gonna come down to roll players. Right Moretti and Mooney need to have big games. I think with week to prepare, you know, call you're gonna be the focus for his, oh, we all remember Izzo chewing out the freshman Henry. But this feels like to me is always looking ahead new some of their opponents moving forward. So if you watch closely Henry's a guy at six he's got long arms. He's got length. He's got athleticism. This is not the most. Talented sporty team. He's the one guy that that kind of matches up with the athletes LSU ready Cho's for quadruple as dole added twenty that game averages five on the season. He was wasn't outmanned athletically against LSU. He gave Barrett. Some trouble at against Duke. So I just I think he's gonna get his first crack at Culver. Let's see if that works here in if you can stop Kover enforce other guys to hit shots if they do. So be it you clap your hands. But that that's gotta be the mentality from Michigan state defensively side in total oddsmakers get these numbers. Right. Need to be with Michigan state coming off of that. Huge win against Duke, tack flying largely under the radar maybe up until the round sixteen in the round of eight and as far as totals concerning kind of right in line with Ginny. Auburn will see in the first game tough for me to to buck sporty here. But that that line is a touch high and three did not. Last. Corner. Number made this closure to pick him total is is pretty in line. But again, I think. Texas Tech defensively, if they can you know, defend the backboard defend the rim. They're gonna have some pretty good success here. Michigan state defensively as I loot it to is no slouch seen a little money come in on this under. But man, I it's tight we made it exactly the pinnacle opener one thirty three so not a ton of value on this total. But if this gets into a half court game or Texas Tech's defense continues to do what it's done in the Sweet Sixteen date. Michigan state's defense is really I think shocks people with how good they are in we've seen Matt mcquade kind of taken handle some defensive assignments. Maybe that's who they try and Gulliver's. It'll be interesting to say their defense is no slouch either. So if Michigan is in hot shooting threes in Texas Tech regressed a little bit shooting the ball. This could could certainly play under. Two different breakdowns and perspectives from us. It's time to hear a different voice. He joins us every week here on the bet. The board podcast talk about all things from the book perspective you, of course, can follow. Dave Mason on Twitter at Dave Mason, B O L. And Dave we knew every favourite has its day. At least they did in the round thirty two. How did this? We'd sixteen and elite workout for you guys about online at AJ. Wait, all for days action was the rule we had some wreckage record-setting action coming in and can't complain about the results. You know, the first weekend we lost big Sunday. But last weekend, we went all four days Sweet Sixteen as and. Eight-game? So so yet results really fall on our way for this witness to ornament, I know pain, I'll have some questions about how the actions looking for this weekend. But just when you see the four teams that ultimately punch their ticket to get to Minneapolis. I mean being behind the counter, do you worry about the name recognition? Dave since we don't have in North Carolina. We don't have it Duke. We don't have a Kentucky vying for national championship this season. I mean, it might it might still action will bid, I guess, you know, it right now numbers are great early action is awesome. Now might some the late guys on the late sign ups. Not come in. Because there's no Zayn Williamson. There could be that. But you know, it's it's is what it is. Right. You know, he really can't worry about that flipside North Carolina's out, and they were only liability on the future. So you know, you can spend these things one hundred ways, and if you put too much thought into it and wish for matchups this. And that the other thing you get a headache. So, you know, if you room for certain, and, you know, it's just to this let the game twenty and I know the I know the action is going to be good. Sure play Kentucky in the final or whatever the UNC ensure acting been a little bit better. But whatever actions gonna be great. I know that that's interesting to hear that the early action is is through the roof this week. As Todd mentioned what some of the blue bloods, not necessarily being in here. But what have we seen? So far, anything sharp come inside or total or any liabilities that you're going to need. It looks like we have a little public dog so far with Auburn yet. Now your hundred percent rate sharp, not a lot yet at a little bit teeny bit on Virginia, minus four and a half. But not not significant sharp action yet that'll coming closer to the games. I'm sure as far as the public needs that the three percent of that there's early better on Spartans, minus two and a half. That's you know, fifty fifty fifty fifty. But yet your hundred percent, correct. The other game is going to be the sweat. Looks like seventy seventy eight percent. A bets are on all berm plus five and a half and the bunny line to eighty one percent of their early bets are on Auburn straight up at at plus two hundred get pretty what pre wild times we talk about the public gravitating towards underdogs this late in the season. I mean pain I know when I got started. In this neck in this world. I mean, you couldn't buy underdog tickets for games of this magnitude might have a little Super Bowl like action there with some with surpress money line on Virginia. That'll be interesting to see come come game day. Now, you're. Go ahead jump in there. Now your your hundred percent, right. So you know, most most actions yet to come in and pride ninety percent. He actually had to come in and probably seventy five percent of that on on on Saturday morning Friday night, Saturday morning. So he's the lines could still move in. And especially depending on the sharps whatever they're gonna play. I know the national semifinals are big deal. And of course, the championship on Monday. But you guys offer some of the lowest dime lines. Major league baseball all the way up to a dollar eighty five. 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Thanks so much well pain. I mean, Dave more or less confirming what we already thought in new to be true, the general public gravitating towards Auburn and creating a nice little situation, especially as far as money line liabilities concerned. Yeah. Absolutely. I man interesting to hear that again, not huge in that percentage is determining what I'm doing with the game. But certainly this time. Years I- lewd two on the opening podcast helpful in determining wind to enter the market in. So I don't love either these games. I think if I had a gun to my head. I'm really looking at Virginia in this spot. Do I wanna go out in lay five and a half juice? No, I know touched six this morning in Auburn took a little bit of a head. I just I don't think the market's going to be able to hold this price. I really don't especially when the public gets involved in game day. I do think we see the Super Bowl affect where the casual fans are coming out and betting this game. They're gonna be looking at taking over on the money lines. Suppress that total that money line. A little bit on Virginia me personally. I'm not going to be going nuts. I will likely be on Virginia on the money line here closer to tip off. I would love to lay two dollars on this game. I really would. I probably not gonna be a big bet for me probably something where I'm going to take a position to win half a position. In call it a day. I don't see anything. I love your. But that's certainly the the way I would go I wouldn't call it a best bet. But that would be the best one of of, you know, the final four for me again, I wouldn't make it as large as our opening round game. Forgot who gave out there Hieaux stated belief, but it probably be more in line with with the wager last week on Michigan state. I'm taking a position half a position here that that's that's what I'm I'm looking at like Virginia. But I think the message here is to wait until tip off. He didn't wanna full blown deep dive on game two of the CBI between US after Paul Wisconsin. Green Bay Marshall or Lipscomb Texas for the NIT. None of those were exciting and should made a comprehensive breakdowns for our podcast. I I don't think. So I think with these final four teams, we don't have any blue bloods in here. I think our strategy was make this quick get in and out and around forty minutes and not ninety minutes and hope people actually listen because the blue bloods, aren't in this thing. From that. We come. I'm shocked. You didn't hit us, by the way with one of those fun facts? So I'm going to do that right now. I had this fun fact written down, this is gonna look you told you told me we were under a time crunch for all the people. Listen, double triple and quadruple speed. They'll be able to this thing. Like, eight minutes waiting for the subway or wherever city that their home from. So I cut out some of the fun factoid I through and they're glad that you're bringing it to the table. This is going to be the first final four since nineteen eighty seven that Duke, North Carolina, Kansas Kentucky, Louisville or UCLA won't be involved. So because of that. I'm shocked that Dave said volume was up early this week anticipation of this. We said, hey, we're gonna have a thirty to forty minute podcast here because I'm not sure anyone's going tune in for ninety minutes for these four teams. So yes, we did make it quick. I like Virginia. I am going to be looking at them on the money line having but it yet gonna be looking closer to the game day that that's my strategy here. By the way, a hat tip to anybody. Who bet the proper will the national champion mascot, be an animal or something else. 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Hour 3: 4/2/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried passion and patron tree of college. Football leaves here. Fiske's? The Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast. Glad you're with us here on a Tuesday afternoon. Let's go to Jerome next. Hey jerome. What is going on man? I heard you tell the collar earlier than, you know, the media poke fun, and we own the top Alabama paying we've been using we using say, well, oh, na even we Don. Poca funded. What's his own, right? Then here comes Clemson. And they've won for clues. We still be poking out. You know that? But it's okay, though, we'll be back. Now what's going on with this basketball fan? But I've been more days we got left in it. We've got another week of it. Okay. My question. Did you hear did transport? You know, I have a lock on it. Can you lock the dog on over? How players when they decide to leave. You ain't got that. If I'm gonna have you, of course. Let me tell you don't wanna I don't ask me a question. If you if you know what else I always debris. L Maria que- visit coach locked door by having them down playoff five on giving. They jumping training four g you could shoot people up. Apple he run a fad pays office. What you gonna tell me? They don't get corporate business shots quicken. So do you like the guy or not? No, none of that out of five. Oh, no, no. I don't want that. Well, the dot going in. But we may isn't it? I'll go home the contract like in the month to the player. He needs to be five. That's what needs to be fired because he he's not going back at the evening. We took the jet the dog Odessa. No the day. They should have fi-. He'll J should have been on New York. So we have all we need somebody for fear. They New York somewhere up that could shoot me way. Somebody that can shoot a basketball. What don't guy go come back? What they do. They can help us. It is a basketball players. Well, go I read it all care about European well opportunity housing. Thank you very much room. That was an exciting. Call Laura is up next in Tennessee, Laura. Thank you very much. Hey, paul. Thank you so much. I'm like a little kid up in Christmas presents I can't believe I'm on show thrilled United. Thank you very much. Yes. I just want to thank Bruce Pearl for what he's done for Auburn. He's the reason why I'm all fan. But he's the reason why I even started watching basketball game because I've always loved football. But Bruce Pearl brought so much energy in life. You know, when he was at Tennessee. And I just love him. He's a good coach. And I'm saying go off, and I hope they go all the way. And thank you so much. I just can't believe this. But, you know, thank you for your show. I love it. Great to hear from you, Laura. Okay. By you bet Catherine is up next and Florida, Catherine welcome to the show. Hi there Paul how you doing today or welcome back. I should say this. And I hear you talking about the nineteen eighty six Auburn team and one of the members Frank Ford grew up hearing Qasimi awesome guy. Unfortunately, he did pass away at the beginning of the year. But rosza. Yeah. But we followed him, you know, from high school, and then when he played it all with Charles Barkley and Chuck Peres purse Pearson or person, but his story is he grew up next to this young kid named Jimmy mcraven Jimmy parents live next door to Franks brand parents and these kids played, you know, from the time, I guess that they could dribble a ball. But then also we had a coach Ed cart. Schnur who is winning is high school coach here in Florida? He came to 'cause semi probably about nineteen eighty two and was lucky to get these two young players who, you know. I mean, they knew how to play with you know, with each other. And then we won our first eight tournament in nineteen eighty three. I mean, we're a small town. We didn't even know that there was state tournaments. I think for basketball, but Ed was Ed was an awesome person. He also he and another friend of ours. Roger Jones they started. It was called the great fl- Florida shootout, it would be held in December. And they would bring teams from all over the United States. I got to meet Rasheed Wallace when he played Simon GATS and Bobby Hurley played down here. And I mean, it is just awesome. And and we didn't even really know that basketball could be that good. But it was is this really exciting and Frank. Was he really was a very nice person and a good player. And I do want to tell you that we are just loving this basketball this year, some some of the best that we have ever seen and the teams just seem to be drilling together. I mean, the players team they'd be playing well with each other and they're playing well against the other players. I mean, you know, there good sportsmanship? So and then, of course, you guys are just doing mazing job for covering. So we hope that all them can go all the way, it would be really good. So thanks. Great to hear from you. Diane is up next in Alabama. Hello, diane. Hey there. Hey, you remember me? Of course. I do. Yes. We we've talked twice. My nephew was Michael and Derrick Henry named him highway forty six or do you remember when he was you know, he was well, you know, what he was. He was he was always say for them. I just wanted to tell you funny story because I already talked to you about I don't know anything about about basketball, really do not. But I'll tell you if any story, I'm old and eighties with REBA. And she's she invited me to place to valley avenue. It was called. Well, I don't even know what this call back then. But I was there and she said me Blake's, and I said, hey, you doing. And he said, I'm he said, I was fine. And then he says name was Charles Barkley. So I said well felt the team p play. He looks like a football player. He looked like a football player. Okay. So I so re. But I you know, we modeled. I mean, we were good looking girls guy. So I said, I'm sorry. But I don't know are you serious or are you a full player or not? And it goes, I'm a basketball player. He hated me the night went terribly wrong, by the way, it would terribly. Well, it just went terribly. Well, Paul story. Thank you for sharing. It. Lou Ann is up next in Alabama. Hello lamb. Okay. Long. Go right ahead. Thank you. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. He, sir. First of all. Thank you for getting me down. I two eighty five Atlanta every day your show. I wouldn't wish that on anyone who his Ross but do live in Pell city album. My question few holler called the snippet today on the news about w Hatchimal in North Carolina women's basketball kinda wondering if you know what spoof is going there. I remember her from way back when I played it at college Charleston. I don't throw any dates out because then you'll count on your fingers. And so the old I am. But anyway, just didn't know if you you knew what was going on wrote about it. She's I mean, I saw she's been coaching for forty four years and her resume is is unapproachable. I do not know specifically what this is about. Whether this is involved, the with with an admissions scandal, and there's no way this could be connected to the past at UNC that's already been judicata. If I. Guests, and it's all that's all it is is there's something there's some tie in here with this edition scandal. Because the fact that they would put the entire staff on leave is quite extraordinary. Yeah. I was thinking that to fall because she's I've known her having run into her and years and years, why didn't just an amazing person in Christian woman next coach. Thank you, especially at a school that seems to have no standards when it comes to comply. So it had to be something that is the just they just learned about. And and it's currently that is in the news. And that's the only thing I could think of, but I would keep your eye on that story pretty closely. I I don't think we have heard the the end of it Calvin is up next in Michigan Calvin. You're you're on the air. Go right ahead. All five a knock of John Calipari and dukes coach for going after the one, and does I would say if they came to any of those guys schools, they would accept them and everything and and let me put in a plug for. But John Calipari. I don't believe it's just about being having older players because I mean, there's been freshman teams who he's jailed like the one with ethnic Davis on. It was a complete team that won the championship as been freshman lead teams. That's won championships. Like come ethnic winning it at at Syracuse. What he was a freshman. So it's a mix of both just talent. If the talent is there doesn't matter what class then if it's about how they play together. And I think the one thing I can say about Giancarlo Perry. You get a bunch of freshmen, but to get to the point that he gets to with freshmen ball players and making them jail together in such a short. Period of time. That's the job that I look at what he does and say he's done a great job here. And you had a call a call in early and try to not call a Perry talking about the players that he got. And and and what what happened with those players. I'm not for sure was an Auburn fan. I don't remember. But I do remember I remember what fanny way I I do remember the call bicker. I mean, I think more than two tuck they have had issues with NCA violations and everything I mean, one of the reasons that person does not with would alma right now is they were paying players get that he was an Arbor fan. So it's a lot of places to have those issues that had those issues in college basketball that just has been what the times has been like in most of the places with college basketball here. So I mean, that's not not want to bring one down to pool. Yours up at everything. But I think I'm Calipari has done a good job your with Jalen making freshman Joe together. And and Duke they want a. Complete team from the beginning. They said they had them all one. I was impressed with the most was was dying rooms the other one's still have laws negate. Yeah. Yeah. I think RJ Barrett while he led the team in scoring was really overrated as as a great college basketball player. Right. I look at the team and say, the only one that was consistent was I wait until I mean, you know, the other ones had their moments, but I mean, and and it could be why there may be just freshman. But like, I said, you know, you know, we get caught up in worry where someone is projected in the draft and RJ was projected second, and we translate to. Well, he's he's an incredible player. Well, he is an incredible player. But you saw what happened at the end of that game. And I'm not listening any a lot of great players have missed free throws. But I it was just comical he he missed the free throw years trying to make and he made the one he was trying to miss. Hey, thanks for the call were up against the break. And you can get in right now if you'd like to join the show eight five five to four to seven to eight five and listening to Paul finebaum show podcast holding back. Glad you're with us here on a Tuesday afternoon, Bruce Pearl earlier, Allan green talk to Seth Greenberg coming up as well. And let's continue. You balancing around various calls and Bo is up next Bogo head. We're doing great. Thank you. That was my Jerome impression. It was. It was it was better than Jerome today. Romo's is angry. Yeah. Well, that's not typical right? No, he he's angry. But usually has a point today he was a little bit lost with this new Alabama basketball coach. All right. So here, here's my take on it. All right. So all birds now, I've lied Chris. But all through Kansas. You knows North Carolina. Good touchy Vanderbilt are not manigault excuse me, Virginia law twice did nuke. Once the Florida state. Why why why is there? No love for still over like, I said I'll bleed crimson how your personal? How can you say? There's no love for Auburn. I hadn't heard any love from a couple of days shows today. You know, I Bo I I don't mean to to be snippety here. But I have no earthly idea what goes on any other show because I don't listen to any other show. And if you even listening to this show all week. That's all you've heard is love for Auburn. We have we've had Bruce Pearl on. So let the other shows do what they want. But on this show. I think they're getting their proper due. Well, all the. Ginny. Well, I don't know. What do you think? I think they got a really good chance. If they did that to those other teams, I mean, they're all over it. I I mean, I haven't I haven't I haven't I haven't made a mind yet. It's tuesday. I'd like to see how that plays out. Okay. Would you agree that Okouchi was a bad bad law than that could play? I would say with Cuban there. I probably would like Auburn but without him. I I have great. I have great concern. I, but you know, listen I had concerned against Kentucky. But I think Virginia's a better team than Kentucky. Okay. I do share your call their Georgia's up next in Memphis, George go right ahead. Thank you. Hey, paulie. She see fan here in Memphis, one of them. I want to ask you what kind of job you saw Bronco mendenhall with my cavalier football team things done. Well. I I I don't want to cite the most obvious the last game. But I mean, he he made will muschamp look peewee coach in bowl game. I don't have expectations that they don't want a national championship. But it's just nice to see them really, well and games and win. So no, I'm he's a he's a really really fine football coach. I thought I was I was curious about that decision to go to UVA. Although I would have a hard time turning UVA down if they offered me a job anywhere on that campus. It's such a beautiful place. But we're going to be hanging. Hopefully, the national championship banner in in the basketball Rena here shortly. So thank you. Thank you. You got a real good shot at it. I can tell you that he lie. You is coming and he's in Clemson, South Carolina. Yeah. All right, man. How you doing? We're doing great. What's going on there? I'll may not much just a little weather debt. But other than that, we're doing pretty good for a question. I guess about recruiting for the the twenty twenty class, I guess regarding mostly Nick saving read an article that you with the Georgia VM in recruiting and that being a big part, which I agreed with of course, the beaten him so poorly for national championship when he got rid of all his coaches. Yeah. I think I think people misunderstood my premise there. And I think the headline was thanks to Georgia Clemson beats Alabama. No, Georgia play a small role in that. But what what the with the point of all that was was this that saving overreacted to to Georgia beating him in recruiting. And he brought in a bunch of recruiters and one or two of them in particular on the defensive side were incapable of being. Being coordinators, and I think as a result, the season got a little bit out of whack. And by the time they got to the Clemson game. They were probably more disoriented than any Alabama team. I can remember in a national championship game. I would definitely agree with that. And then that would leave me it's not second part of that question is would you think if if it were to happen again by say, you know, maybe if data would pull it off in twenty twenty was better recruiting class. Do you think it would have similar repercussions? No, I think saving learned from that the problem Nick Sabin has I think versus dab Sweeney is that he has had such a massive turnover on his staff that it does take a toll and as good as he is. And we know how great he is. And he's got individuals from very good coaches. But can you make them work cohesively with the players that he has certainly his players are as good as anyone or better. I I liked Davos staff better. I mean, I would take Davos if you said, okay, if I had to take one coaching staff Davos your savings, including the head coach, I would take Davos, I think it's a I mean, he would he I mean, the the amount of time his coordinators have been there the experience authencity. The end defensively with Brent Venables. It's just unbelievable. Hey, listen. Thank you very much. We're gonna take a break. Seth Greenberg will join us coming up in just a moment about what happens next in college basketball. Can't wait to talk to him. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. We welcome. You back. Glad you're here on a Tuesday afternoon. Counting down the days before the final four and one man who will be front and center. There is our next guest. He has Seth Greenberg. Oh, he's great with his time. Seth thank you so much for joining us. We've already talked to Bruce Pearl today, and that certainly has captured the excitement in the imagination of a lot of people in in college basketball before we get to Saturday in what maybe beyond let's talk about their journey here, especially how they have gotten here and what impact Shula's injury. He's had surgery today and it went well, but he won't play Saturday a good afternoon. Yes. It's unfortunate Shuba was playing at such a high level for those dudes. I mean, it was unbelievable. He was becoming one of the toughest match-ups or. Yes. See with his sizes quickness is ability to defend pick and pop post. I mean, I had a chance to watch their pro day early in the season. I spent two days with Bruce. And he actually asked me to talk the Truman said like as a true how good you. He goes. I I don't know. I said you understand how good you are. And how good you can be. And how important you are to this team. And he was clueless. I mean, he had no understanding of the role that he needed to play for their team to be good. And then he got to that point. And it's so unfortunate they went down. But it's one of those things he went down and yet other guys stepped up, and you know, the backward is just tremendous. And that's where they want again. They're backward dominated Kentucky's backward. Their backcourt was tougher than thumbs back court. And I thought I did a great thing second half. He said like you two guys right air. You guys you go win this game. He's talking to hopper Brown. On. And and then he empowered those kids at everyone who came in to to step up, and and do something special and then he rolled Truman like he was well street. I mean, it was unbelievable. Thought I thought it was gonna come through the tunnel. I was at that game. Here comes here comes Chuma through the tunnel except he couldn't play. But the job he did empowering his team giving them the confidence creating an imposing their style creating the chaos, and you know, it started when Kentucky beat them in that blow out game. And at instead of letting that beaten down it it actually was kind of the end of that season in the beginning of a new one, let's get to Saturday and knowing what won't be happening with Chuma playing. But knowing them the match ups like you, do you see in Virginia number times? You've obviously seen Auburn help us better understand what this game is all about. And what what what's likely to happen? And how it will look if this game is, you know, opposites attrac- them. You're talking about Virginia. They're improved offensively. But their team that owns the temple of the game. That takes you out of transition that runs you up to three point line that limits your second chance for -tunities and on the other hand, we know Auburn is Auburn wants to create chaos. They wanna get open floor. They want to. Shoot the three. They wanna speed you up. So it's legitimately legitimate chess match. I'm what what people in for Jinya owns the tempo of the game of their offense and defense with their offense is connected to the defensive transition. So by making you defend by being officiant offensively by getting a good shot. They always have floor belts. So by having floor balance. It takes you out of transition because their defenses said, and I'd watch the ton of film on on Virginia today, and it is amazing. They don't put but more than one or two guys to the glass. So they always have three back. Now, they're used to defending inside out. You can't defend inside additives stalwart. So that's going to be an adjustment. Tony Bennett is going to have to make but their ability to set their defense, not turn it over which they've been vulnerable. They haven't turned it over lot. But there'd be games where they've turned it over at a high level. So that's going to be something to watch. And then you know, what Bruce. Have to do the defensive discipline. It's different defending Kentucky defending. Virginia is Virginia runs sides or blocker mover offense. There's a lot of random movement in their offense. And you've got to be able to cite that and react to it. It's it's a real big difference doing guarding bad than guarding a play. So that'll be something else that at offer is going to have to deal with talking to talking about the Auburn Virginia matchup. We talked to Bruce earlier the sets a about getting there, and you've seen it sometimes teams get there, and they're overwhelmed. It's hard to believe this team will let that happen. But how do you guard against the moment because I is big as the regional final is is because the SEC final is. It's still not the Saturday the final four. Yeah. Terry house. I was assistant Virginia when we went to the final four eighty four and Terry Holland says something to our team the night before the game about your. It's great that we've arrived. It's great that we've accomplished this. But you'll never feel. A worse than if you walk off that court, and you don't and you didn't give everything and anything you have inside your soul to compete and win this game. If you ever have you walk in this locker room and have a what if or a question it, you'll never feel worse because it's something that you have to cherish. And it's not the pretentious opportunity when championship BRUCE'S, great at creating causes. He's great getting getting his team in the moment. Bruce's, a master motivator and terrific and empowering his team. He's great at creating causes. You know, I thought the funny thing he talked about the Cinderella. And I would have biggest Senator L, and no, you're not that's Texas Tech. But you know, what Bruce says that they believe it, and that's great. So I I would suspect that he will build his team up to a crescendo starting with probably today getting them at that crescendo on Saturday. And the first thing is if you look the odds on winning championship there last. All right there. It is as I chip. Now, I believe we can win. All right, then he will find little pieces to eventually kind of not just create the cores, but have the cost come full circle. And it when it becomes full circle it will be and this is why we're going to win. And this is our going to win and he's really good at creating and create creating a vision for his team. And I suspect he'll try to do that during the course of the week not just on game night. But as as the week builds up, I'm fascinated as as someone who's been to the turnament as coach at the highest level. How much of that matters. Once you get into the game. Once you're past the eighteen minute, Marco, the all the motivational talks, all the all the hype all the videos doesn't matter any you can play with your game plan matters. But all that stuff gets you guys to buy into your game plan. Right. So like, I it's more important as you get up. To the game just to get those guys focused on y'all. Coach's job is to create who are we at? How are we going gonna win? And it's create a vision. And then it's to empower those guys to do to basically make that vision become a reality. So that all comes through as you're building up to the game, especially game of this magnitude, but it's all in. How are we guarding the move or block or block them over and how we guarding their size, and how are we going to guard their ball screens? And how are we going to guard when they double us big debate? And how are we going to guard when they hard hedge us on screens. And but as he's creating these scenarios you'll so he's also going to be creating the solutions. And the reasons why we can win was working to do this. And we do this. We're gonna find a way to be successful. And in the first time, they do that if they're successful in the back of a player's mind. They're going. Yeah. We got this. We got this. We're ready. Yeah. Coach we're prepared. We know exactly what we're gonna do. They can't take us out of our stuff or we can guard. These guys co. Which was right when he comes off that down screen, you know, we're going to do this and all of a sudden during the course of the game. And then you're building confidence in division. Seth before you go on and on talk about the other coach in this game. Tony Bennett father took Wisconsin to the final four. He he's had a great run in last year suffered one of the toughest losses ever for any big time. College basketball coach, I'm really interested in your view of how he handled that from that moment on to where we are. Today seamlessly. They it was a lesson. He he's to say, Tony, I I remember when when you first came into the league at league meetings. I've just sitting and talking with them. And I said, you know, I coached against his dad we were fortunate to play them when I was at south Florida. We beat them actually the they with the final four. And I said, how did you? How did your dad handle? And how did he win at Washington state and one of his things that he said to me is sometimes you've got to learn to lose before you can win. And I think that you know, he is so even keeled an a manner in which he handled that situation the grace of the ownership. That he handled that situation as the reason that they're here. Now this season had nothing to do with the healing process. And that's the one thing that as I watched them through the tournament. The the what happened to them in turnament was the motivation that they had working through the summer. But once the league season started wants to non conference started. All right. That kind of went away they were in the moment wants to turnament started. They had to deal with their demons, and I thought the poison which he handled Gardner Webb early in that game and the lack of overreacting and then preparing his team that you know, this time when this team this underdog makes this run we've been here before we're not going to overreact. We're going to get to the next play. We're going to continue to be who we are. We're going to stay poised. We're going to support each other all those lessons were able to be realized because. Of how he handled it in the moment when they lost that game. I I have so much admirations for Tony Bennett. Now, I thought one of the coast things that weekend Paul was there was a picture on the court after the game of Tony's dad giving him a hug, well, and to me, you know, I was a lifer. Coach until I've aside started doing this. And to me to have that shared experience with his dad and look his dad gave him and back. You know? That's you know, it doesn't get any better than that. And that's kind of a little bit like the circle of life and in listening to his dad and knows that well and listen to his dad talk about his own demons is that can't even go watch him his team play in person because he just has a hard time watching it, and, you know, his dad who's a brilliant coach and an innovator talk about how much better Tony is because of his balance in his life. Was is just phenomenal. Listen to just such a great family. So good for our game. And also show that you can do things to right way without drama without without with high character kids and without cutting corners, and you can achieve the highest level. And it's a great lesson for young coaches that think that there's you need to do it another way wonderful conversation as always many, thanks for dropping by Paul. My pleasure anytime. Well, what what an incredible conversation that was and always is with Seth Greenberg. We're heading to the bright more of your phone calls after the two listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back as we continue here. That's checkout. Mic in Green Bay for red conversation with Seth. Hey, mick. Yes, sir. I just wanted to connect with you the other guy kinda stole my tongue thunder so to speak because he was telling you about the history of dick and Tony Bennett. Yeah. Witness that history when he was in high school in college and Pro Bowl, we'll tell us about it. Well, Tony was Tony was a good good. Good young, man. I I had season tickets to his high school games in his in his college games. But he was good ball player. And he went on to be a pro not a a real pro pro. But he was good. And I just wanted to say that dick and Tony Bennett or a great team through high school and college. And and and he was he he grew up in Green Bay, Wisconsin played basketball probably high school in Green Bay, Wisconsin. And then went onto his college career and his. Abbreviated professional career. But he was he was a good tick good good guy and dick with a great coach and his son is turning out to be. Right. His own history. And well, you know, it's pretty amazing to have father and son both making it to the final four. That's unique. It is. Yes, it is. It's it's. Something that is is. Something that somebody would write in a in a in a, you know, a book. Oh, yeah. I mean, I often top of my head. I I know I feel like tapping. I just I'm not really thinking of when and where but it it is incredible unique. Yes. It is. Yes, it is. And I just wanted to give you that piece of history. But the other guy I lived it. And he and he he knew it. So well, I'm glad you shared it with us. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me on. Well. Great to have you mic up in Green Bay. Let's move down south and talk to Joe in South Carolina. Hello, joe. Hello. This is how you doing. Oh, we're doing great. Thank you. Is one. I just want to hear your thoughts on how do you think over will be out of puff another one without to mow KiKi? Well, I think it's going to be difficult. Joe if you're if you're honest with yourself now, again, not too many people, I know thought Auburn would be North Carolina Kentucky, so this is become a trend here. But I just saw on ESPN the the BP I think it has an eighty percent tile chance of Virginia winning very few. Listen, there will always be someone predicting Auburn, but not many will. Yeah. I was in North Carolina fan, and I I was shocked. How we played. Well, yeah. To me that game looked a little bit like last year. When all of a sudden Carolina went cold and got run an really got just got run over. You know, what you need? Well, thanks for having me. Glad that guide to call. Thank you very much. Terry is up next in Tennessee as we continue to tell you what Terry hold on. I hit the buzzer to quickly. I didn't realize didn't even look at the clock. We we hear t- hinted the hour I'm going to come back to you Terry a little bit later. We had a very busy show. But we still have time for you at eight five five two four to seven to eight five great show on Tuesday. And we're back after this.

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"Slam jam Ben dick, what are you doing warm up for the game? I all the games I watch even when I can't get tickets. It helps bring stadium atmosphere to wherever on watching all the diaper. Daddy, doesn't again come on dick save it for the air. We've got a game and check out vivid seats. It's the easiest way to get all the tickets to the games you want to go to vivid seats for the windy. The buzzer. Sometime. Coincide with Greenberg. Dockage the definitive college basketball podcast. Welcome to court Sabbath Greenberg. Dockets this quick passing. The final four is on us. I mean, the only thing that falls the final four is too. Great Gruber dockage next round of golf competition. Which is. Yeah. That's that's just a model on mono absolute odd magic. I mean, you walk taking your shoes off. And there's a beach into one, and you you you beat me. Got me twice. All right. But I felt I had to go and get baptized. I go into the sea. It was unbelievable. Four Seth Wayne think man. I mean like all right. So let let let's let's look at this here, Texas, Tech Michigan state. I'm going to say it, and then you can expound upon it. Definite rock fight rock, light rock five rock fight. Which I take mutt? I take is. I'm so glad Michigan state's there because I just like this. I like this team. I don't think there's a there may not be a pro on Michigan state is that is that possibly switch. It has come back. Does he come? Look if you're going to college accomplishments. No. But if you're going on what the NBA looks. Yes. About for Texas Tech, three cones pro. No. But Jack overs Culver. Yeah. He's to why he's the one guy Moretti might eventually he can really really shoot it. But I mean, this is a game. This this is an old school final four semi game. This is older guys to a little bit older maturity experience. Obviously Michigan state's been together longer bears. Been able to get those guys playing like they've been given logger we've seen Texas Tech speed up Michigan made mincemeat out of their three point shooting. You and I both talked on our previous podcast how we felt like got sped up. I can they speed up. Michigan state. Can they speed of cash Winston? Yeah. That's what it's gonna come down to like when mission Sates. Good cash. Winstons ten one dams that assist. One turn of when they're not good. He turns it over. And then all of a sudden they're playing from behind can they? Yes, will they I don't think. So I think they'll have possessions where that they will. But can they do that over the course of a game? I'm not sure because everyone talked about trade Jones being this great on both Fender. And he was he's a disruptive defender and cash has got a couple leanings where he got away with it. But that dude was like playing at you know, he was like in in the adult league. You know in Detroit just doing his thing. I mean that dude how good is he going to be in a wreck league in about fifteen years catches Winston at some point in his life will be the best player until he's ninety. He'll just whatever's. Shame. He's going to be the mayor of the trite governor of Michigan because you're brilliant kid. Great kids great kit my favorite kit. Junior junior in. Family. Yeah. After doesn't play not playing anymore junior ace my favorite co ACC offered this career gadgets was is my favorite kid to watch in college basketball because he doesn't have a great body. Feel good about my body. Yes. He he just balls. He's happy like I hate to say this. This is not a shot. But it is as I've gotten older and away from college basketball. I was the most miserable looking guy on a silent. Like, I look at coach K and for all the success. He doesn't look like he's having any funny looks miserable than you look in the crowd at Duke and everybody looks miserable and caches Winston. And I see a Duda. Just having a ball. I mean, I see Winston is just like smile in play and ball in and. Yeah. And it's interesting relationship he has with Tom TOMS challenging challenging challenging and as a freshman. He could handle it. As a sophomore junior. He embraces it. Yeah. And which is what what it's all about. I look at I look at this game. And just there's certain matches Mooney. And and caches Winston Woodson against Mooney in Texas Tech defense. I think that's going to be a really really interesting matchup. The speed of play can can they can they get Michigan state uncomfortable. Like they did to Michigan. That's going to be a an interesting thing. And then you know guy, we don't talk about Matt Quaid. Oh, like he's gonna end up on jar Culver, and they're gonna play obviously outnumber they're gonna they're gonna be physical. Now the motion is an issue because he's gonna get Sarah Kover coming up screens rescreen. He's going to be congenital calls issue. Please. The best off ball defender that I saw maybe Evers Ronald NORAD for Butler back in the win. Butler was rolling. I'm not so sure mcquaid isn't in the top five like when I watched mcquaid play playoff the ball. All and have to guard. Curls. And he is so locked any beach to the screen steps over the screen and he's good enough. And he understands enough that a guy can read it and pop back, and he gets there speaking, he's long to why I just I don't mean to stop you. Right. I agree. I think that is a horrible thing. That's a horrible matchup for Michigan state him garden called. That's that's that's one to watch her. Yeah. Hey, we'll be back in a minute. But first word from vivid seats think about this squared usually we get the freebies. You know, you could pick up the phone most times getting most readers get a pretty good seek and media pass. But there are times that are no freebies available having the right venue to get a good seat to a sporting event. And having that ability man, I that's good. What do you think about vivid seats? These were. Don't settle for waiting in lines. I don't I don't I don't like to you don't like to. None of us dues shop for tickets to every game with the official ticket partner of ESPN as vivid seats, vivid seats, here's really important. You see your seats before you buy you to me because I like sitting in their back by one hundred percent buyer guarantee, you may have to find another way to spend your time besides waiting in line, but you'll be closer to the action Seth and you've ever been before heading over to vivid seats, the largest independent ticket. Marketplace around I want to get to the headline. I want to get the best seats. I want to be up to get in the seat in Georgia's show and do whatever need to do. That's why you have to go to vivid seats, less time in the waiting room and more time in a great seats your choice. Don't just by any seat get vivid seat the one guy defensively. He's he's developing defenders Aaron Henry playing against emotion where hasn't seen tough. And you know, it's funny because the big ten used to be motion league, it's not as much or Ohio State more of emotion team. No. No pretty much sense. Right. Purdue runs it better than maybe anybody. They sprint off screens. They cut his home my gosh. But I so he's guarded that. And he's guarded. You know, he's guarded. Well, how about has wells Howard hand? Aaron Henry is development and that right hand jump hook. I still have figured out, but but his kit for left hand, but his his development in terms of maintaining a level of intensity for long periods of time has been really impressive. I mean because this with with Josh life. He was supposed to be a backup. He was supposed to be ten to eleven minute. A game player. The dude is playing thirty five thirty six thirty seven minutes and to be able to maintain that as a freshman under the microscope. They're under with the demands that they're putting on him. It's been really impressive. Seth he this is too. He's the lease going freshmen in the final Florida under six game five point eight a game. Now, that's that's a full grown nugget. That's that's not even more. So that's just. In a world, where freshman dominate everything here. We are in the biggest day to freshman star. Yeah. And look Henry to me is again, I'm going to give great credit junior. Yes. Junior siding junior was the team manager this summer for the Indian all star team which had Langford and Henry and a bunch of guys. It's a big deal in Indiana. You play Kentucky. And it's a big deal calls me. He goes dad, the winning guy in this entire thing. Both teams is Aaron Henry he is Romeo might be great again. He was a little bit. Like you on room you lot. Like you actually good player bumps in your with. Yes. He's like, Dan, I'm telling here and Henry is gonna win wherever he goes. And he was going to Michigan state because it's a perfect fit. Because the dude is tough. The dude is athlete. The do doesn't say nothing to do bosses. You know what? And he gets into lane. He can score. And he could jump over you in scorning rebound. He's willing to do it. I think it's going to be a great match. Like, I think if you said to me like if you said to me, take the shirts off. Put Duke shirts on and played Michigan state with with Texas Tech's team people would be so fired up for this match up because of the motion the cutting the movement and in Izzo story, but men I'll tell you what Seth I loved the way Texas Tech. And you you can you said this earlier they've developed their offense the middle of the floor spread out screen off the boss stay away from each other space space it out or doubt timing of cuts is huge in motion. I got the bond top now, I cut I don't ball's not over here. And I'm cutting over to my right. The balls to the Leno Chris beard and his staff have been great offensively. And I thought it really crushed Gonzaga. Can do it to Michigan state? I don't know. 'cause to big guys connect, that's the I think Michigan state win. My gut feeling right now is Michigan state wins this game because of saver Tillman? Yeah. And Kenny goin- and Tillman wasn't. He supposed to be a fifteen minute a game guy. Yeah. I mean. Well, here's the deal. Categories average, two points a game last year to rebound to country. It tillman. I got full disclosure. I've watched in practice two years ago and Thomas had got this. He's gonna be really good. And I'm watching practice, and I'm going like seriously that guy's lost twenty seven. He's got himself in great shape. He made to defensive plays in that game against Duke playing up the line denied entry passes with his hand across perfect. It was a clinical defensive plate. I think in the end Michigan state was going to win this game because of the three headed monster. Upfront is just a little bit more productive than the front court of Texas Tech's. That's my gut feeling I can say is going to win the game. But to go back is going to be a rock fight rock fights. Biggest play you cited you could say rock fight now. Yeah. Right with you. I mean, rob nothing better things play the game. And I may have this wrong. It was a nine point game. Michigan state is something to watch for three one. I thought they ran the floor and got three from acquaint on the right side. Yes. Yes. You know what I mean? And nobody got back and that kills you. Now. I do think this. I do think Texas Tech much better getting back on guarding and do not even close still cooked really yet when he got up nine. Yes, Duke looked really young right? And that's what that's my point is at all of a sudden, you get up nine and hit goes going here goes mcquaid, which in the scouting reporting his Michigan state you'd better block out and you better get back on defense. And you know, where the running winces got the ball mcquaid's on the right Henry's on the left and boom main street, they can do it. I do think this. I do think Texas Tech will what was it seventeen to four transition points or whatever it was do against. Was zero zero no points. I do think I do think that Texas Tech will do a better job of taking away transition because I don't think they turned out. You mentioned Moretti. I think Moretti's really good. It really is good. I think she can stay wins. All right. So get to Michigan state's slam champion. Maybe what are you doing warming up for the game? All the games, I watch even when I can't get tickets. It helps bring stadium atmosphere to wherever watch it. Doesn't come on Vick. Save it for the air. We've got a game and check out vivid seats. It's the easiest way to get all the tickets to the games you want to go to vivid seats for the win. The fighting Bruce Pearl's against Tony Bennett, the man who handles failure and defeat in the same way. He handles victory with Grace's voice things that quite honestly you and I would have no chat of. And one of the cool bad about myself. Wife divorce me Marianne really one of the cool moments to me after that game was his embrace with his dad. Yeah. I just thought, you know. I mean, you know, it sounds silly. But coming from coaching families, you know, your Latian ship with your kids and everything is it's hard. It's hard to be the coach Kate it's hard and probably being coached by your dad. It's hard to see, you know, as a parent to your kids go through difficult time like one sixteen. I thought that was his cool a moment as there was in the final four and then on the other hand, you you've got Bruce pearled. Okay. He goes down, but by Bob, and yet they still find a way to win who owns the tempo naked. Well, I I think I. Watching what Virginia survived and the barrage against Purdue. He say where the produce good team back down open that night. They were playing great. I think Virginia's gonna win the game. I just gotta believe that. Okay. Not being in. There is going to catch up to him against the team that I mean who's beaten Virginia. Luke twice state, Florida. Stay right now. I'm always say only four losses in the ACC over last year's that's another. I did say this after I watched Auburn up close this summer, or this this winter it was such a maker miss deal with them. So to say that I think Virginia's gonna beat I guess, but it's maybe hasn't been missing since they lost to Kentucky. Right. It's been making maker make now they won. They won the other day. They only made seven threes, and they still won had his Virginia deal with those high flat ball screens will they like me. My gut feeling is how they always deal with probably blitz him and hard hedge and come back. Let's hard hedge and come back and recover. Back like Kentucky switched him some. And they just went at retreive. He started rejected them when trying to push into the screen. To me guarding Harper and containing him and then Virginia's team defensive runs inside out in transition. They can't do that in this game. They've gotta run with bodies. Yeah. I mean because Brown at a plane the second half, he had a layup. Then he realized I don't do that. And he just backed out and got himself ready. Got behind the ball poop, not down. Now. I do not think that they will be able to export Kyle guy and tied roam the way they exploited tally hero in those kind of semi isos. And I think that's one of the reasons but I've picked against Auburn the whole tournament. So Bruce, you're welcome. Again, I think Tony Bennett. Learn something in the Carson Ebbers deal. I don't know if you saw this belated game. He decided he's leaving Drome left his men and went and double. Yeah. He just said to hell with this. I'm going to go double you. Somebody else is gonna make now that's where maybe k- k now being in. There can hurt where he can lift up shoot. Maybe purify has to make shot maybe purify has to make a plan on. No. But I gotta believe that. Tony Benn who I'm not you watch Virginia far more than I I'm not sure I've seen Tony Bennett do that. Now, I've never even that was totally out of character. Any luck tried Kia on them early everybody? He tried hunter on 'em. He did some switching had Drome little bit. No. That was out of character. And that's got to say, wait a second. We can't abuse. And I think you'll see that with Harper. Harper Brown, I prop Brown's probably canton or whoever's going. Yeah. Whoever's got a call, and they skirt fifty two points between them. Now. The one thing that. Without o'keith. And it goes back to Duke a little bit is you've got two guys that have scored half of their points. Right. Played. Can you win a game? With two guys without a KiKi scored half your points against Virginia team to basically, they're gonna close down one of those guys. So who's the other guy that steps up for? I don't know. Is there any other guy that can step up in the middle of the game yesterday against Kentucky? They start throwing the ball to Wiley, which is interesting because you wanna throw the ball inside because he calms everything down around in it. But you also want the guy inside to be able to do two things. Number one, make a basket. Number two, make a free throw or. Yes. Number three, passing us and out of it gets get double big debate. Right. So I don't have the answer that that's what I said earlier. Awful stretch in the in the middle of it which goes to trust, and Bruce as you said earlier, I think this I think that whatever needs to happen for Auburn. I've become a believer is going to happen meaning pure for needs a hit shots somebody's you'll make show early in the early towards the Tigers. I am, but I'm not alter mentally because I thought I really thought this pay say I say, I really thought I say. I thought if you're if you're going to beat Virginia Purdue was going to beat Virginia. And I know some lucky things happen. I get all that. But let's be honest. They had to get one. They had to it was a perfect a perfect storm. Miss a free throw or the games one. Bog, it's if you're going to tell me park is going to be running backwards with the clock running down from five point nine seconds into the back court. I'll take that one hundred one hundred times, but here's the point. They didn't beat Virginia. But is like so. Going potentially a worst to first scenario. Wow. I live for Jinya. I think they're. There's not the only thing they can get at times Kyle guy out there the difference car guy in that game and he struggled. He was like two for. He elevated man Seth he got against Brian Klein, and I love Ryan Klein, but I really well. And he knew that he continually got separation off of Ryan and Ryan knew it. And that's all I watched. I didn't even watch. Bob was just watching those two guys entire game. And I went back and watched it and my wife's like, why are you yelling 'cause that not couldn't talk and all of a sudden guy's gonna hit a three. She's just like you. You saw they can't guard him, but he actually elevated up on like like like I went back like he must. He was affected. More by the one sixteen in a pressure dancer AA. And then you make a great point because he was familiar with Kline. So that may be made him more comfortable than in that moment in time. That's that's that's a that's a great point. And you know, what really fall down. Now, you know stuff. He talking about when he played a ewbal. Did he really cross clan of enfold on singer rose played nine thousand he was working on clients? I think I think that was pretty good. All right, one of the cool moments. So and Carson Edwards was hitting all those you're gonna took the ball out of bounds and game thumbs up. Did you see that? Now, these guy do that. He he bangs his four three or whatever client to guide takes about bounds. Looks at Edwards and kind of gives them a thumbs cool affect the other thing was when the Keita made that shot and he was crossing Carson Edwards going to the bench fee over time. And. Carson Edwards slap the keypad on the chest and gave a smile like like respected as that was big those. Matt painter didn't mazing job. He's oh. Such a good, dude. And he always talked about selectively aggressive Carson Edwards. I think I got thrown out the window. Just do get as many shots as you. Can you make it every one of them? But was that's your best shooting up for two games fine in the second half of the verge or the Tennessee game. And then Edwards for basically was the best shooting you've ever seen. I'm believable. The shotmaking. And I think it also dispels it, you know, in terms of and everyone's we we had a little disagreement days like I said like Virginia system can win enough championship. And they may chassis another game. I get you to find four that. That sounds great. But in the end, they didn't change who they was like they were running up the floor, you know, shooting. I shot they were moving people screening rescreening getting of verse. They just happened to make a ton of shots. But to me, it's the system, it's the pack line. It's it's it's the motion. It's owning the tempo of the game. It's all those things to me that if you're able to do that and do it at a high level if you can only lose four ACC game in two years doing that. Then you know, what that's good enough to win Nash championship. Get set if for Jinya had lost. We would be talking about what an incredible disappointment Kentucky is lead eight hoop. Duke is. ACC tournament champs elite eight and Virginia ACC regular season champs analee. And all of a sudden that's a disciplined what the hell? Are these other guys doing that are making five million dollars a year at all these other schools have has thirteen guys? It's so he picking on picking Virginia, I've got Virginia. Well, so Burs sure in good shape. Thanks sponsor of today's show, vivid seats, I love seats, man. I don't wanna bats. You don't wanna good seek? You know, what I do I go to vivid seats and be sure to check out the hoop collective podcast with Brian winners as we draw closer to the NBA postseason. 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The Final Four Is Set Following the Elitest Elite Eight Ever | One Shining Podcast

One Shining Podcast with Titus and Tate

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The Final Four Is Set Following the Elitest Elite Eight Ever | One Shining Podcast

"Today's episode of one shiny podcast is brought to you as has been all season by cheese and Pringles. Hey hoops fans. Do you want to play in a basketball game with some of today's biggest stars with Charles Barkley or shack as your coach Pringles and cheese at are bringing you that chance with the celebrity crunch. Classic offer the wind sweepstakes. All you have to do is go vote for team cheese at or Pringles celebrity crunch. Classic dot com slash P. Visit the site for more details Pringles versus cheese at pick aside stock up and go for the win. No purchase necessary. We are also brought to you by ourselves and the party that we're throwing for ourselves in Minneapolis. This Sunday a win a lot of Tex about sneaky Pete's. Yeah. Questions. I did not know a sneaky Pete's was. Here's what's needed pizzas. The state there. The one bar that stepped up and said, we will host your party. So I was excited about that. And then we said last pod that were hosting a party a sneaky Pete's on Sunday night nine pm downtown Minneapolis in the people have said, I've got a few like I promised. I would never go back to sneaky. Pete's but don't go back there for you. I have no idea what the hell does places, but I'm excited to find out. I've heard that there are stripper poles. That's all we know that I I don't know if it is a strip joint, but I think the her there's there's an option Kyle said, he's not going. I'm sorry, go see some three star rating season four star rating. So okay should be. All right. Yeah. So we we're doing a party if you're going to the final four if you're one of the fans of the teams that there or you're just a fan of college basketball, and you go to the final four you're one of those guys that wants to be like eighty five years old. I've been to every final four left sixty three years me and my country Super Bowl commercials. Yeah. You're one of those people will be there. That's where we'll be Sunday night comes say Hello wall. So be walking around in tuxedos throughout the entire weekend. So if you don't see us there, maybe we'll see somewhere in the words of Charles Barkley said this when Auburn was going to go to the first final four he was setting it up and say, I never thought I'd say this. But you know, you'd expect them to say auburn's going to the final four. He said I'm excited to go to Minneapolis. You feel the same. I feel the same way I'm excited. Also, one more time, I'm gonna plug up. My foundation started club trillion foundation for walk on. We're starting a scholarship for walk on basketball players so go to clubs Julian foundation dot org. Throws throws the ghetto word. Yeah. We got we got to know her. Yeah. There was so little just a little bit skim some off the top toss. It our way. If you if you have some just one, you we'll take whatever you got a trillion day of giving right? We should do. We should do day giving on the podcast for. I think we'll talk about this take the final four set. It's not the final four. I think a lot of people expected, but there are four teams we expected that much and there are four teams that was one of the greatest elite eight Browns I've ever seen in my life. It was back to back days of great basketball bat fourth overtimes big moments. Bigshots big free throws big MRs beaters. It was it had it all it was the one that everyone brings up is two thousand five as like. Greatest of all time. And now so the the question that we're the zone Illinois game. We're we're sitting down right now, we are recording this right after Duke lost. I had tape was running around like a maniac had to grab him say. We have a pod to do in my mind. It's not doing great right now. But in my head I was running circles around we recorded this right at the podcast, the debates going to be is two thousand five better than this. I'm just going to say this was better because this is the one we're talking about and it makes it easier. I don't wanna be the guy. That's like actually hold on. Everyone. Don't be that excited. This is only the third best that we've ever had say, it's the best the people of history. So we get Auburn, Texas Tech. First timers, we give Regina Tony Bennett. First timer. So the first timers club. We're going to talk about all these great day games. We're going to talk about the final four. What if I told you the final four became the first four who interesting? I'd say I'm not going to date. We are going to talk about everything that has happened and everything that might happen in Minneapolis. But I coach K. All right. We have a ton to get to as we said these were the four four the greatest day games. I've ever seen in my life. I think the people expect us to start with the game. It's the one that was played last. It's fresh on all their minds the odds Zion Williamson his careers, probably over. He's not made a decision yet. We still have to respect give him space and privacy. And the words that coach K respect the moment. Respect the moment. We don't wanna get ahead of ourselves. I think most people are expecting us, especially with you being Carolina fan. The tar heels lose your your down. Your little sad do keeps pulling out these winds in the now Duke loss, they expect us to start at that game. We are going to honor basketball, and we are going to honor the the game because that's the most important thing to us as always the game. And we are going to honor the game by talking about the game. That was the game of the weekend. Virginian Purdue I want to start with that one one of the greatest college basketball games, this nothing to do with your Indiana bias at all no, this has to do with the fact that Ryan Klein and cow. Guy were matched up, and you were going crazy watching these two guys. Oh, my new each other's moves. You know what? I mean, they're trying to get each other's head. Well, we were talking. We're we're in the bar talking about it Ryan Klein is older than Kyle guy. And we were trying to decide how much that matters. How guys a better player, but Ryan clients older? And we were just kind of reminiscent on like how like if you took me back to to to browse Berg Indian to play pick up basketball with the guys who are you know, when I was in eighth grade, they were like seniors or whatever and I played with them. I would I would be shitting my pants because I'd be like, oh my God. Those are the guys that were so so good when I was growing up, and we we were talking about is that going to to to be a factor is like Ryan client gonna get in. Kyle guy's head and be like a member and seventh grade when you were in sixth grade, and I punch you bitch. And there's going to be that sorta talk, but there was not cow guy. Played a phenomenal game and leading into the game. Cow guy had said at a press conference. I think he said he had crossed up Ryan climbed before Ryan was asked about it said never heard of her don't remember that. What are you talking about this guy in the world? Are we talking about the mental gymnastics that is if someone's older than you than you have that, you know, that little brother complex? Yes. And rank line was kind of feed into that at first, but we were talking about as well as cow guy is better now. Yes for Ryan cleanse perspective. Like look at this. It's when I go back to a state all the guys I play basketball with still treat me like a second class citizen because I sucked, and I was a walk on, you know, that dynamic never leaves you where you're you're you're in this order that the totem pole the pecking order, and you'll always be there in people's minds. Anyway, we are not talking about the one guy who stole the show Carson Edwards. We should probably focus most of our discussion on this. Because part of the reason this this being one of the greatest games I've ever seen not just that. It was an awesome finish not. That was just a close game. It was just once the stakes first of all of both of these programs have not been in my lifetime, and I have gray hair in my beard. So that's been a while. Neither of these teams have been to a final four neither neither coach had ever been. No final four the stakes were high, obviously. But. On top of all of that, the the it was back and forth, but it was back and forth in the most absurd way I've ever seen. We were watching this at a bar in California. We we somehow found like Purdue bar. I don't know how this happened we stumbled upon it. And we were there watching and felt like half the bar like went to Purdue and every time Carson Edwards shot the shot. The ball is like everyone was having an orgasm. It was like before the ball even went in. It was like the rainy Marsh picture is basically what this bar was as soon as he's fired from the logo like. Like. Oh, this relates noise is being made in the bar. I'm like my God, go to California way, find out. Find out, but it was deserving. They weren't they weren't overreacting. It was I've never ever seen anything like this that that is one thing. I I'm going to do a lot of reasons he biased because I'm just so fired up. We finally got the tournament we were hoping for in this round. But that is one thing. I don't even think I need to worry about is it might do in recency buys with that. Because I legitimately was the most insane tournament display I've ever seen including Kimba, including stuff gray. I was gonna say the exciting part going into this game is you're you're worried that Virginia and producer both. They're playing tight because they're worried about getting over the hump. So they, you know have a game where it's like Oregon game where they can't buy a bucket, but it doesn't seem like a team's gonna win. But they're not gonna win because they can't they can't buy buckets fifty to forty nine forever. Right. This game. It felt going into it. It might be like that was kind of a struggle. Maybe people were called people are tight. And it said Carson Carson effort is basically unconscious the entire game. I think it forty two of the seventy five points. That's insane. That's don't really I don't know how school enough from thirty feet. And it was a great shot. I mean, if he didn't shoot it was bad. Like matte painters teams like pass it to him right there. That's got Carson, please. Well, he was falling. My forty percent rule if you've ever shoot better than forty percent from three you weren't shooting enough. You gotta keep jacking up until you get back down to forty percent. That's what I say the motion offense versus pack line defense. Contrasting styles. It was it was for basketball. This is good for everything. It was it was it was good for everybody. But fans of Indiana hoosiers who had to watch an Indiana, Mr. basketball, we guy going up against the Purdue Boilermakers introduce able to pull this off. We said that there would be an emergency press conference. Bob. Knight would be welcome back. Yeah. Right. She was going to get fireworks. They're putting it out there. They're going after coach Cal. It wasn't just that. They were you know, Kyle guy, Indiana, Mr. basketball his grandparents had season tickets. Now, you did not get along with Tom Crean? So went to Virginia. And then Purdue obviously, Indiana drive. It wasn't just that. It was at this game took the form of Indiana basketball. This is what like when when people want to explain why Indiana basketball's different people like me. They're like, it's just a different in forty nine states. It's basketball, but it's just different India. They want to take this game and just show and be like this every single who's your thinks that every Indian high school basketball game looks like this guy's curling off screens hitting threes and just back and forth. Like that in in hoosiers were not involved had nothing to do with you. I use like searching for an identity identity. They've now pretty fragile loving this by the way that I'm talking about you know, that didn't make the term. But this is so produced been released eight more recently that I you bother has been to to Notre Dame has been to two and anyway, so tough times for the hoosiers. Very I don't know. How we I don't know how we get out of there. But I will say for produced perspective on this. Carson historically, great performance in the four games. He breaks Glen Rice's record twenty eight threes when he hit the Bank in three to make it six nine sixty seven to win the races six nine it looked like that was the one I thought he does signs point to everything's going their way it's going to it's like in the Texas Tech game when the three when or no the Auburn game. He takes the three in the corner and bounces up and the goes, and you kinda like that's the that is the moment where things are going to bounce your way things are going, right? Carson also most outstanding player first time for the losing guy. The losing team to be most outstanding player since Steph curry, and he bested Steph care he broke his record for the most points in this four-game around that he's had ten three pointers in this game. Most threes NCAA tournament history by one player, and he did in four games in Clinton is had the record dick six. It's incredible. Dude. This game was oh again. Can we talk about the Akita shot? We talk about key Clark. First of all, I thought Clark did a great job on. Carson edwards. That was was so insane about it is like Virginia. I I was proud of Virginia because I felt like Virginia never panicked and last year against you in BC. They panicked the panicked in a big way. And that just made the snowball get worse and worse because you in BC was hit shots Virginia was like fuck. We about the lose sixteen seed and Jerry sizes like yes, you are. And they started their defense was a stretched out, and they had no idea what the hell they're doing in this game of felt like Tony Bennett. Like every time. I was just saying he's going to miss guys and just trust me. Going to stick with what we're doing? He's going to miss and then the next time. I would come. I promise he's going to mess and it just like never really happened. But but they stuck with it. And they were rewarded for it? And I'm very excited about this. As someone who has been writing Virginia bandwagon for what five six years now and just getting the shit kicked out of me every single March along last we did it play. God's plan. Kyle yet. No don't do that. That's going to cost us a lot of money to get sued bedrick. Let's get someone to pair to sing it. The pods plan. He hits the three. Can we just go through the sequence at the end of the game? Because. Insane. So hits the three at sixty nine sixty seven we go back down cow guy. Tries to save the ball out of bounds foots on the line. And that seems like one of those moments where like oh my God game of inches. That's going to be the costly turnover. Ryan glut of foot on the line in this tournament less few, you know, a lot of plays where it's like you're zooming in. And was he on the line was? Yeah. Just just. Yeah. It's turning into the NFL where we're going to do play reviews for every little thing. Save doesn't save the ball there. They go down. Ryan Klein makes the first misses the second get seventy sixty seven and then a boy tie ballgame tied Jerome comes down. And this is what RG bear wasn't able to do Tigra makes the first ones wish MRs the second one purposely beautifully. DJ taps it out as all the way down to start of the court Clark goes down grabs it and this to me. I mean, I I can't think of a pass. I mean everyone's talking about the past that Clark makes. And also the fact that Tony Bennett had this was one of those moments where Tony Bennett is going to be roasted to say, the least if they don't call a timeout. Out there Deke did doesn't get a shot off. Right. And they just throw it away. And it's the turn over. Now, we have produced celebrating, and gene, katie's going crazy. And that that was what the moment was leading to. And this is why I mean talk about revenge fade destiny, whatever it is Clark makes an absolute perfect. I mean, Dr perfect Pasadena ki Tae and in motion floats it up boot loader at the buzzer to win. Apparently that was the best way to win. Hey, we gotta go over. Well, they probably thought it was to win because there might so for real. I mean, well surreal for real whatever it felt like well Clark's pass was not only great like the past that he made. And it was just a crisp. Like, he saw you know is a baseball passage was act come out to right field throwing someone out of home. It's the fact that he threw it. That's impressive to me. How many how many people in that situation would even have the wherewithal to realize you have friends of mine. Yeah. The presence of mind. There we go and not just throw up like a half quarter. Or like, just you know, throw like most guys would throw up a half quarters like two and a half seconds. The Gordon Hayward heath. Yeah. That's the. Case scenario in that situation and this kid is a freshman. Yeah. He grad law one hand throws a D. I I just can't believe Tony Bennett in that moment says himself, I guess they can draw their defense were inbounding. We're gonna get shot might as well, just go forward Clark mixed. Well, I think it was partially to like they Virginia got exactly what they wanted out of proof out of three we should mention. Then that the strategy is always if you're up three times running out. Applying MRs they've composite. What's the worst that could possibly happen? If you file up three in Tony Bennett. I think he was probably thinking like we got what we want here or maybe wasn't thinking. Well, we always like plug in. What these coaches were thinking like it happens a snap. Second. Like how many guys are just like sitting there? Just like it feels k he's just like staring off in the Disney like what the fuck happen will happen. You know, it happens so fast that he probably has no clue what's actually happened. Maybe that was what was going on. Tony Bennett was just frozen had no clue or do you think is one of those things where I thought I mean going back to the RTD no play. The fact that Villanova had drawn that play up in practice, and ran it so many times throughout the year. And then you think they drew this play up you play up. I think it was at Bennett new. All right. Here's what we're trying to do. We're going to miss the forty-three draw draw that I'm seeing the play. How many times in practice has tied Jerome been at the free throw line in a situation setting bad, Jack gotta tap it out. Yeah. So I think they had that he was like we got what we want this. We gotta go with like what is calling timeout. How's it going to help? It's going to let them set the defense all that stuff. Yeah. So that was probably what is thinking or or. He just wouldn't think anything at all. It's like sitting there just gotta hope this works. He's like game winner. I don't know going to go over time. I wanna say this mad harms versus Deke Tae. The greatest blonde on blonde match match blonde. Macha was great in playing along right over harms. And then each each team also put out for non blondes with them. Get it at the the band, the okay reference that you guys. Sorry. Okay. Also, the Virginia fans on the eighty. Yeah. Yeah. Those are the Ralph Sampson fan no-one tweet at me that you understand that reference. You show your age, the millennials are gonna roast you for all the millennials. Are we are millennials? How you fellow kids? Yeah. I'm doing the Simmons thing reticent when younger than me is a millennial when I think I am a Malino myself, anyway, John Kerry hunter, okay? We gotta have the uncomfortable conversation about him. Well, it was so Clark. You were saying he's doing a great job on Edward's watching this game. The whole time Edwards is pro. That's the only person on the floor. That's a good matchup for him to get the shots off. Even the clock is all over him. He's being a pest fallen maroon everywhere clar Carson numbers every time. He goes up so shooting over Clark. So you're saying to me you're like, why don't we just put hunter on him but hunters at Kach? Yeah. Hunter was on them for a little while it wasn't working and Clark was like kind of working. But it also wasn't working in a different way. I I wanted hundred stay on Carson because I just wanted to get him going in some capacity. He will he didn't have it defensively. He didn't have an offensive. It was very bizarre game. And I don't know. But it's it's kind of a reminder like we talk about some we. Talk about this a lot that that they are college basketball players, and you never know what's going on with these guys that you never know if Deandra hundred got dumped that morning or his, you know, or like his brother broke his leg on the tire swing at recess. And I don't know if he has a brother that would be at recess, but you don't say is that we got personal these are all these things like these guys more than than than they do the pro players. So you never know what the hell's going on. And why guys suddenly you're just completely disappear or maybe to suck? Maybe it was just like you do remember these are all student athletes. They are student athletes. Max, I one little sidebar here. Do you think it's weird when they're doing the press conferences in there like any questions for the student athletes, and then they ask the questions, and then as soon as they get done with the questions ago, you're dismissed as if like they're in class. Really is treated like that. Like John was like, thank you. Glad to be out of homeroom down the hallway the bell starts ringing. You got seven minutes. I wanted to win did you? So we go to overtime. Obviously. This happens the shot. It's tough Virginia. I almost felt like they celebrated Monday it hit the shot to win the game. I mean, and that's always a weird moment to where. It's like. Okay. Now, we have to lock back in and go to overtime. I thought that was gonna favor producing they came out and over time to get the first bucket. They get up like seventy two seventy a little bit of momentum on their side. And then again a man by the name tied Jerome split. The double team throws a nice little photo floater off the back ties his game up and then from there it just felt like Virginia kinda got the reins back in that was the difference. I think the year before where we said go into this game. We wanted Edwards verse cow guy Edwards verse tied Jerome in. Cobb guy was what we got which was Mirvic and Virginia needed someone to kind of set the tone to say like, you know, what you need in the tournament guard that can get a bucket when you need a bucket Jerome was able to do that. Carson was doing that the entire game too. I mean almost an obnoxious level at one point because it's like can someone else helped us, man. I mean, it it is a singular effort at this point. This had to be the way that Virginia got to the final four with Tony Bennett. The it was always going to be this way where. They started out. Did they had a close game with a sixteen seed? They're not close. It was down. A halftime come. I tell first-half whatever demons are back. The demons are coming back. They have that didn't they play Oklahoma. Don't play particularly well in that game beat Oregon, but don't play particularly well in that game going into the produce thing they needed a miracle at the end, they have a guy like all signs are saying produce gonna win this every every step of the whales. Like, I mean, Virginia's outplaying Purdue Purdue still feels like produce going to win this. They're playing in Louisville, by the way, which is a twenty minute drive from west Lafayette. I think yet so the whole crowd is full of proof fans. Everything was going wrong for Virginia in that sense of like this whole tournament run in those like, oh my God. They're gonna make all the way to the lead only to lose to just the most insane shooting performance we've ever seen and then they won. And that's like it. It was never going to happen. Like, they're were never going to get over the hump by beating everybody by seventeen you know, head to head to have happened this way. And it makes it all. The sweeter Virginia's in the final four eight all the haters can suck it. I've been saying for seriously six years next year is our year. But I am worried I should mention this. It feels like Virginia is just happy to be here a little bit just in like the twenty four hours since they won. If you're following if you're following how these guys are talking about what the Virginia Failsworth talking about. There's there's a little bit of happy. I'm pretty sure that whole Virginia asphalting was at a baseball game day like chugging, bud. Let right like throwing the regional trophy around. Pablo? There's there's a chan- there's a non zero chance that Virginia will forget to go to Minnesota. I'll just put it that with that. They'll be just partying and Charlottesville right now. It's it's it's a tie ballgame. You know, they're already one we've got to go to overtime. We'd go to the final four Wego, Minneapolis. We gotta see what's going to go on. I will point out the Andre hundred two we were kind of ragging on there for second in overtime. Carson by the way, I felt like after we went to overtime. It's been discusses if Virginia just kind of ran away within overtime sort of what Auburn did a Kentucky. But cars with forty two seconds left drives the lane hits a floater there up one. And it's a situation where okay, I mean, produce going to do it. It's going to happen. Yeah. De'andre hundred comes down and has the bucket to sort of say, okay? Yeah. We're we're. Okay. Deandra hunter is gonna be alright, and it gets lead cow guy hits the free throws at the end of sealant poetic. It's great. It's very very good. And what's crazy is I still don't think Virginia's plead that well, they played better in Purdue. I it got to the point where pretty fans aren't going to believe me when I. Say this. But I generally didn't really care who was going to win. Because like Carson was going nuts. I was like man he does not deserve to lose. But then Virginia was playing really really. Well, I've Virginia outplayed Purdue this entire game. And they didn't deserve to lose either. It was it was one of those situations. So I really didn't carry one. And then I thought about it more. And I was like Virginia fans are going to be on suicide watch if they lead eight again and produce fans, let's be honest. They were a little happy to be here a little bit. They were just kind of the they can't believe that this team made it to the and it was so at that point. I was like all right. We we definitely need Virginia to win. Because I don't know what's going to happen to Virginia fans if they make it they fall short of the final four again, and it's not even their fault. Because they they outplayed Purdue the entire game. I don't think car. Here's here's the hottest take you'll ever hear. I don't even think Carson Edwards even played that. Well, I think he was just making everything which is a distinction that probably doesn't even need to be made. I president shouldn't even said that. But let's call it the gym or difference. Yeah. You're playing greatest men this guy. He's like he's pulling. And it's all he did was pull up from like forty feet and make it. That's good. That's obviously good. I'm just saying that it wasn't like it was wild. How it just kept happening? But I will say it fell within the flow of the game. That's the phillix salvation almost where it was almost with Napier and fourteen. It was the same thing where it's like you got to make this show. We have no what I meant. By hate didn't play wells. I met that. Like, there's never a point where you felt like the Virginia defenders he was making them look like idiots. You know, it was never like God damn. He's so much better than the Virginia defenders was like Virginia's playing great defense. The dude was this hitting the most absurd shots that no one could possibly guard thirty four point eight most sensitive players connection. That's wild. And also the most jimmer for debt knowing got to average thirty points per game since dimmer for Dan twenty eleven so I mean, that's pretty much. It was a singular effort from Carson efforts. Which is why at the end of the game when they have a chance possibly, I mean, they're down three seventy eight seventy five I look at you. And I'm like Carson over is going to dribble down and just spray it from half court, and we're gonna go double time. And unfortunately, he has a turnover at the end. But you can't at least it was him. You know of all people to turn the ball over. There's no one else on the team. That's like, hey, man. Would it blow it like if his Grady I for? Look pretty fans one is head on a stick met harms like dribbles it office near like that. It's a big thing. And he has the, you know, the person that everyone points to but Carson was doing it. It just felt it sucked. But also this guy had done everything. Yeah. Man. What a game that. That's seriously. We should do a they're the we're doing the rewatch Ables at the ringer here with the sports games. Yeah. Yeah. Bill told us we gotta pick games. I really just want to pick that one. That was incredible game. Those I don't know I'm gonna remember that for very long time and tide Jerome. I you've brought them up a couple times. But I feel like he got lost in the fray, at least in my mind because I was just watching the guys bombed the threes. And he was thrown verse no gel eastern amused. Basically, those two guys back and forth. He knows my that was my Ryan Klein cow guy. Right. I was just watching client Kline was great to start out hot. And then Carson it really did become a singular effort. It was incredible. Carson just. You knew he was shooting. He knew everyone in the building new they're shooting and Tony was dislike he's gonna start missing guys. And he just never did. What are the odds were going into the tournament that the only one seed if you would ask someone just a casual college basketball fan of you said only won one seat will make it to the final four. I think Virginia's the fourth team that people would pick for sure for sure for sure. So I think that's you know, I think Virginia has basically overcome. What is expected of them in the sense that this game was supposed to be boring. It was electric. It was awesome. It was great. It was college basketball. It's finest. And then they go to the final four. They're the they're the only one see that's there that the favourite probably now, I would I would think there should be the favorite. Maybe Michigan state will be but we'll see. But that's also I may be better for them. Not to be the favourite. I mean, Texas Tech has been playing in Saint basketball's will all these teams are great. I'll I I would say auburn's definitely the least favored and just in terms O'Keefe you being out. And yeah, there were like a two man show today. Auburn's obviously good. I think Auburn can win it. We'll talk about them in a second juicy. Tony Bennett, cutting down the nets like the just the primal scream just the jubilation jubilation magnificence. I Don I I I'm just so happy. They did it. I don't I don't think you understand what it's like to put your neck out for for a program that you don't know anybody in this program. I don't I don't really care. I there's no one in my family that went to Virginia earn. I have no reason to care about Virginia. And I was just watching him like five or six years ago. I was like I like this defense I like this team. And then I'm I think I'm going to trust this team in March, and then they fucked up, and I was like, that's okay. That was just a blip, and then they fucked up again, and then they fucked up again. And then I became kind of added to start defending my integrity in my what do I know about basketball, my credentials, my basketball credentials, and it's been a rough go for guys like me who at least if you're like Virginia fan, you're like fuck and I'm going down with the ship. And I had the way the decision. Do I stay on the ship? So I go down would do. I jump off. You've got off the bus off the bus stayed on the ship. I stayed on the ship. I said I'm going down with Virginia. This is James towns. Sixteen o seven all over again. You're taking a ride through. Tony Bennett says yes, I don't have Tony minute says yes to UCLA between now. And the final four because he thought the season's over because Virginia celebrating so much. He's like all right. I brought you guys what you wanted a mile and then he takes the UCLA job. And then they're like fuck we still have to play game. And that becomes a thing where every single time before they're about the planet tournament game like Virginia Tech leaked at buzzer. Williams got offer the texts and John highly considering it right before they tipped off that right? We don't want that come on. Tony. All right. Congratulations have Virginia. I am. I am saying right now if Regina wins, the national title, I will be in Charlottesville, celebrating whatever that looks like unless it happens right away. But in my mind, they're going to have like a celebration like two or three days later, and I'm flying there for that. I don't know what I plan on doing there. But basically just walking around and hoping people recognize me and give me free beer, that's pretty much it. That's the plan is the Jackson coming. Yes. Of course. Of course. You can. All right. Let's get to it. This is the this is the real game that just happened that this this isn't the game of the tournament Virginia produce the better game. But this is the story line of the tournament that Zion. Williamson is done Duke has done. RJ Baird is done Duke has now in the last fifteen years Tate. Here's a stat for you. The last fifteen in state tournaments Duke has made two final fours to final four since two thousand four granted they won the national championship. Both times those time. That's why today was so important because of do goes Minneapolis their win it. It's definitely definitely they're not going though, they've they've only made two final four since two thousand four that is one more than loyalist Chicago was made since two thousand dollars. That's one more than George. Mason has made to two thousand word that is that's fewer than UCLA in Florida though, for real that in the last fifteen years, you still have been Alan damore final four love era, the Darren collison air. Yeah. The Dow revisionist history. Russell Westbrook has been to two final four since two thousand four coach on the seat. Go ahead. The floor is yours. Duke lost with the top three recruits in the country with the the number one pick in the draft with with one of the best college basketball players of all time as their best player in Mike Shosh Ascii who is the greatest coach of all time has one of the greatest players of all time on his roster could not win the regular season. ACC could not win a trip to the final four. The floor is yours. It's a time where RJ bear put it pretty perfectly. Interestingly you just said it's over and that I think is so tough for do coach K objectively speaking about this game. I do feel for Duke in the sense that. Last year that shot that grace now took did every single thing. But go in and at that moment, it just felt like, wow, maybe that's a little bit of karma get getting back to Grayson at a certain level. But also that's a tough loss, you know, for duty take especially with that team with Bagley and all those guys. Take into this year coach K ups the ante he says, I'm not just going to get one five star. That's got Carter and Bagley, but that's too. I'm gonna get three now. And I'm gonna get in the best one of all. And I'm gonna get a guy that's going to transcend basketball, transcend the conference amid around bass in the midst of an FBI investigation into corruption and college basketball recruiting I'm only two to land the top three recruits in college basket, we're going to monitor the situation. I haven't heard about that. And you just lost your press credential. You're out that's all that is. But you so coach get going. There's so much at stake for Duke in this game in the sense that so much investment. I mean SPAM plus all the shows, you know, it's been Zeile is all. It's time for the start from the start from the start day. Yeah. The the candidate or the the earn everything the Zion. Every all you know, we were guilty of it too. I've talked about Zion Zion was was worth talking about for most of the season. The whole regular season was basically Zion in terms of like interest in college basketball. And and it's not because the media only talked about Zion. And that's the only reason people were interested in it's because the people that's all anybody was interested in we have. I don't know. I don't know. How to explain it to people like I didn't wanna talk about Zion. I kept waiting for other stuff to happen. That was more interesting. And there just wasn't. He was one of the best players. We've really honestly ever seen in the sport, the one knocked that I had going into the fact when Zan committed to Duke, the one thing that I was upset about as a basketball fan at large Zayn Williamson is he's not going to be able to be the one on a Duke team with so much talent. They're so they're so stacked. Right. He's not going to have to do everything. So we're not going to see the full range of skills at the guy has I was wrong Zion had to do everything. I mean that was no he didn't have to do. Thing. Let's let's pump the brakes your k-. This is the worst coaching job K is ever done in his career. Although Duke a better team when they be Kentucky than they were today. Yes. Yes. Exactly. What I'm saying? How do you get worse? Yes. How do you have a team of freshmen and get worse over the course of a season. It makes no damn sense. This is case the by far the worst coaching job he's ever done this season. But I would argue he probably didn't even do a coaching job. He probably he's entered the Paterno phase of his career where he's just trying not to shit his pants on the sidelines. I mean, that's the I don't understand it. It was very very frustrating. You're completely right Zion. Williamson had to do everything quote, unquote. But he didn't have to do everything. How did how do they not run any offense whatsoever zero offense? And even the defense everyone's saying like, I mean, this this should have been one of the great defensive Duke teams, and they were very very good defensive team. But they weren't good because they they they had good principles defensively. They literally switch every screen one through five which is the laziest shit. You could possibly do in basketball is just let's switch. Let's not fight through screens. We'll stock communicate. Let's not worry about matchups. The got away with it because they're athlete is hell and they're long and they do have great individual defenders. But there was nothing about this. There is never a shred from from January on where you looked at Duke. And you're like man, that's a well coached team. If it was if it was anyone else on the bench. Everyone would be roasting. The co I'm sure people are roasting K anyway. But if it was your eye on the bench, that'd be fired immediately. They'd be like this guy. Doesn't know what the hell? He's doing out there. He's wasting his talent. They're not running any place the defense. You're you're literally switching every screen. And I know that's kind of like, I know they have the personnel to do it. I know it worked a lot. But I don't know there was there any evidence that k- was coaching at any point this season whatsoever. He'd finally got in the huddle to draw a play at the end of the game there, which I liked he was finally into it some at some level. But what's the achilles heel of Duke over the past? I would say I mean twenty fifteen was the year that they had the guy on the inside even though he's somehow a laughing stock in the NBA, which is a whole nother conversation. But I'll leave it alone Gelo Kuffour when they had a guy in the post what I'm saying about Zion is okay, we're asking ion. Go down on offense. And we're going to throw him the ball in the post and say, you do everything you're going to get the ball here. And you're going to go one on one with this guy and get a bucket. Yeah. So we gotta do that. Also when we're on defense if someone gets by their man if trae Jones by caches Winston, you have to protect the rim, and I think when you look at that Duke team, and this is what it comes to making guys come your early to do which is a very coach K thing that he's done for a while. So it's not a new thing. But when you make a guy like Marvin Bagley era, not once they make. But when you get a guy like Marvin Bagley to class, right and window. Carter comes any may be expected to say an extra year. Then you don't have the guy on the inside. And you're you're relying guy, but you know, Bolden. I don't think bulletins a bad player by by any ma-. You know, he's he's fine. But he's not going to match up with Tillman and ward and going like you can see the horses on one side with Michigan state a team that's built to play different ways. Duke is playing one way which is to be the best players on the floor into downtown into outhustle. When to do everything it has to do all of that, he is out hustle U s. Outscore you he has to block in in cover for guys on defense. I mean that is so much to put a woman's plate. And I kept waiting for some other like, let's draw something else up here. You know what I mean? But it is a one man show and it came back to bite him. Because I mean Zion said after the game he said, they were double mean the post and guess what we have tape on you doing the same spin move since. Right. First game against Kentucky. Tom was not an idiot. The scout team for Michigan state. They're not dumped they know what you want. They know obviously, you can get it. Because you're so great, you're so supremely talented, but is exhausting when people know what you're going to do. And you're still having to do it and carried on your own on top of that exhausted. They were so worn out and that rotation is so short, and then she can stay has the horses, man. They could batch they matched up well sign. They got those guys Hillary inside killed him inside. I mean, it goes back to college basketball at its root in. That's why I think it's so funny that k is playing a different game now because he's getting beat at a game that he used to win. You know, what I mean like Tom Izzo was beating him in. Side. No getting getting easy buckets on offense drawing up easy place to make entry passes down to the post to get you know. All right. Let's settle down. Let's get a bucket. Let's get back on defense. Duke doesn't have that. Because it's like RJ go. I so Zion. Go I so right trade Jones hit this open three that we're gonna give you every once every ten possession. And and when when it's not Zion. Go I so it's let's let reddish and Barrett shoot threes, go ice o and shoot dump shots and then Zion. You get the offense to rebound and get the an one that that was their offense. That was I'm not gonna shut it to your for Duke. I I really want to do to make the it makes it makes the final former interesting with Duke. Let's just be honest dukes there. It's a better story. People. Are there's more excitement going in the final four not the Michigan state to slouch of a team. I've I've loved Michigan state for most of the season. So I don't have a problem Michigan state in there. But I think most casual fans I mean, we we saw Bill as the game was going on. And he was he was said is there any reason why should watch the final four through doesn't make it? And I think that's the sentiment that shared across the country with a lot of casual fans, so in that regard like it would be cool. Duke was in the final four, and you know, they choke. They they lose in the national championship or something. And it's makes for riveting television. But I'm not going to shut it to you for this. Because they were not a good basketball team. They have not been good basketball team for a while. They've just had an otherworldly player who's done everything for them. And and they are not a good team whatsoever. And the they got the reap what they so. That's that's also about Duke, and they kept skating by two. I mean, it felt like obviously, you can't lose. I mean, you lose the UCF. It's over obviously. But they kept winning these games playing this way. Which is a very, yeah. Let's I mean, I saying this as a watching the game the best offense. The do CAD was let's break this shots. Zion. Can go up and get the rebound and put it back and hopefully get an an one. Yeah. That that was their three point offense. It wasn't being able to make threes Zion through Moines. Plays. Yeah. That is not something to rely on especially horrible. We have seventeen turnovers. Seventeen turnovers. You have to be, you know, curry Klay Duran all these other guys that have that many turnovers and so when a basketball game, and I I just think laureate played well, I mean they had. Laureate. Got dunked on by every mcquaid until told me got him to ask you another would if if I had said to you Matt mcquade will make the two most athletic plays in the game against sign. Williamson. I mean, what what are the odds on that the Dunkin the the spinner who talking about Michigan state? Michigan state fans are pulling their hair out there. Like, we get it get off of Duke. Can you talk about the team that actually won the damn game yet respect to the moment? Yes, we can't. Conversely, all the all the stuff I said about K and this being the worst season this has to be the worst season he's ever coached. They didn't win the regular season. ACC? I already can feel that the people tweeted me calm down with. I personally you had the three best players. You might have you have three of the top four draft picks on one team. And you can't make the final four get the hell out entertained got worse. That's really what it was. I'm not overreacting to one game. It's the entire season of like you watch them against Kentucky. You watch watch them against Indiana. And the the when Indiana was still a decent team. And they beat the brakes off, Indiana, you watch him in Maui. I know they lost zag. But like just that that team up until. Will basically Zion goes out was better than the team is now it's wild. So anyway, let's talk about Michigan state because everything I said about K applies to Izzo except the exact opposite. This is like this coaching job from Tom Izzo is unbelievable. Is it a federal is he Mr. Martius March? He's got a back. This has been this is the best coach is I haven't closed at forty minutes. He's back Michigan state fans feel free to disagree because you know, your team better than I do. This is the the number one coaching job I've ever seen from Tom Izzo. And I'll tell you why take not only do they not have a ton of talent. Which is the point. I've been making all season not to despair, these guys they're great college basketball players. But none of these guys are jumping off the page is NBA players cash us Winston who knows Aaron Henry is athletic enough. He might he might make a roster at some point. But like none of these guys are surefire lottery picks. And he he he beats Michigan three times. He wins the big ten regular season. He wins the big ten tournament. All the Josh Langford out for the year. Nick ward gets hurt every other every other day. And then also just as who the hell knows what's going on with him half the time. And you're talking about people know what you're gonna get nigga word has a broken left hand. They still know he's gonna use his left. Yeah. He's still his broken left hand still better than right hand. They have all this for everything going on with that. And not only does he win all these games. But just the way that he's constructed a Michigan state team that has the old school toughness of Michigan state like they destroy everybody on the board. They had the hor- like Michigan state Duke has I I still favored Michigan state's frontcourt in this game because of just how physical they are. And they were never ever intimidated by Zion. It's never there's not one body. That's going up Tillman was on. I mean there were disguise rotating on Zion. And every single time you're asking a guy that is six foot six at best to go up against real guys at a foreign five who are just as big as he has as far as I mean, they might not be a Jeep. But but I mean, there's something they might look exactly their Dodge Ram. Yeah. Oh, lord. But no, I is is build the team with that identity. But he also does it where his best player in his point guard is let's be honest. A guy who doesn't love defense. I wouldn't say it's tough in the sense that you think about where he's like physically getting in people shit type tough. He's more of a finesse point guard. And I I'm this is not disparaging caches Winston whatsoever. He's just like he he he's got a feel for the game. Just get he he he belongs the way. I I saw someone explain this on Twitter when Michigan was playing Michigan state in the big ten title game. And I thought it was perfect is basically that like that that cashes Winston is a beeline point guard. He should be playing for John felines offense is how great John beeline is historically coaching offense Xavier Simpson should be playing for Tom Izzo because he's just a hard nose tough defensive point guard. But anyway, that's what I mean by caches Wentz to not be not really fitting the vibe of this. But Izzo found a way to make a work to take a point guard who wants to push tempo and play like more of a finesse basketball and spray the ball around and golf ball screens control tempo. Use that. But then also take your horses down low and just beat the shit out of people in out rebound people bring it together. You don't have the most talented team in the country. But they've won everything. It's incredible. And this goes back to coach into so going into this game. You know that they have caches once and obviously he is their best player. He has been carrying them all season Kenny Smith at halftime, you compare them to Mark Jackson in the sense that you met you may say is not like traditionally tough. But he knows exactly what the right play is. Yeah. Every single moment. He's he's thinking through the game as it's going on Matt mcquade might be running around unconscious and just doing things as happening flying all over the place, but caches wasn't his thinking through the game. And the thing that Duke is done with trae Jones pretty much exclusively all year as coach K is said to trae you're going to be in that point guards grill, you're going to rattle him. So therefore, he's thinking and worrying about you being up in his grill. And he's not going to be thinking through the game. Running running sets get everything set up for the team because he's worried about this guy. Who's Lilly opened his grown doesn't leave him alone. Yet, just the frustration basketball. You understand that when someone's? Doing that. Even if you're planning the YMCA and some guy trying hard you like calm down. Dude. I it's we're playing pickup. That's what trade Jones is supposed to do K goes in that game. He's running the same thing. He's like all right. Trey you're going to disrupt. Caches Winston perfect. That's our plan. Caches Winston is a vet caches Winston has had plenty of guys Xavier's, a great example that have been in his grill. They've tried to do that. And guess what chief drivelines? Yeah. Look for my guy throw nice little rally. Hit a nice little shot here. I mean in in case that after the game. I mean, he made the right play every single time. And that goes back to a college basketball veteran a guy that have been there a guy that's been pressed together. It's been in that situation going against Roy Jones who's doing what he's done to Kobe white and all these other freshmen point guards, and it's worked right, but it's not gonna work against cash. Winston. So what is the? It's almost it takes a certain amount of hubris to go into something and think I've worn eleven out of twelve right? I expect to be you. Yeah. And then to get out coach into to lose to a team that is obviously inferior as far as talent. Yeah. That is that is what it comes down to in since sense. We're that's why is August praise asked what coach K is the one that. I think takes us on the chest because you're asking so much Zion. You're asking so much for no regional guys. Do we Baker? What happened there what happened of Alex? Okay. These people in the rotation is so short. It's so finite. And it's it's basically it's a one way or the highway way of playing. It's so frustrating Duke fans can't like this. I mean, they had it's fun. It's obviously fun to have Zion Williamson and RJ to to to get all these best. But my God. It's so frustrating to watch. It's not like it's not like it was I n surrounded by a bunch of Jack White's, and it was in. He was doing the best. He could. And they just came up short. It's at the start. I mean you keep saying like he he Zion. Has to do everything. He does not have to do everything at no point does. He should he ever have to do everything. And yet that's where they find him. That's what ended up every game. I don't know, man. I'm a I'm really happy for Michigan state, though. Like, you said Izzo Izzo see almost seemed to disbelief when they won like he he he's lost a case many times, he's lost a ROY Williams. So many times you just kind of assumed he was like he went into this game hoping to have dead to rights. Yeah. He you actually had a another Izzo moment. This is the first time I will say this is a nice things about coach K coach is more approved. I think by the public right now at this game because of the Izzo stuff going around, and he was losing his mind on your tone at the end of the game in cash wins. Like coach you'll out cameras on camera. Coach K on your coach K coach K doesn't yell. He's never yelled at his guys. He's not much of a he's not much of a yeller. He's more of a father figure just a loving. Yeah. That right. Yeah. I'm here. I'm your dad in since. I'm a mother about K how about I I can't believe it didn't bring up the fact that. Duke had gotten called for. So few fouls in the second half that when it came time to foul and extend the game Michigan's date was not in the boat or. Yeah. Michigan state more fouls. Can we talk about that? That was kind of funny that the irony of that is unbelievable. But even that secrets at the end where RJ goes to the free throw line. He has this moment this chance I mean, sort of I don't want to bring up there. I mean, it was a moment where tiger Rome is the the fifth assists of this where he it works out perfectly for Virginia. That's how the the destiny of the situation. He missed the second one. It's great RJ misses the first one, you can see, you know, the deflation a little bit in his face second one. Okay. We're gonna set it up. We're gonna miss it on purpose in the basketball. God's step in it goes in and then we have the imbalance play in caches once. And again, this is I know that they have to foul I know that they have to get to more fouls. I know there's only four point seven seconds limb. Let's do the math. If I run away from these guys game over and RJ Barrett is already thinking about the fact that I dismissed that free throw is actually made this free throw. Now, he's somehow own caches. Winston it whereas caches do he takes one step left are all right sprints of the right? Throw it in beat them dribble round game over. I mean that is just like that is just being smart and being a basketball player and being aware of a situation. And that is being in a moment. I mean under any what the moment is in different strain, big ten and ACC basketball agree freshman, the Varez the best team in the ACC playing the best team in the big ten. The big ten came out on top. When is Virginia may play. Michigan stays true at that would be a demons game as well. Michigan state Virginia biscuits days of the team that started the Virginia twenty fourteen. Yeah. Yeah. New York is a it's been tough road from for for Virginia. But Michigan state was the team that. Yeah, they they beat him those two years, and that kind of started the Tony Bennett chokes, it can be sure this can work, but that would be that would be incredible story line of Virginia beats Michigan state. That's gotta be how it happens Virginia's gonna win the title. They have to be Michigan state because we know the big ten is good at beating place. Yes. That would be that would that would be the greatest the greatest runner ups in. If if this if college basketball is truly scripted. That's what's going to happen is Virginia is going to beat Michigan state. That's that's how it has to go down at this point. But before before we get off the the the the the Duke Michigan state game. I did have the big ten stat of the day. Okay. Please with with the big ten marching on. It comes to us courtesy of atoms. Hooker of CBS, he says this since nineteen Seventy-nine. Michigan state is nine into in elite eight games, which is the best record among twenty three teams who have five plus appearances in a league games in that time span the s ID that has to look that up. I mean that is such an arbitrary process. I mean, defined the way we're getting done. This is a big Tim bay. Could you say the same about Virginia or key saying about Duke or Carolina because I wouldn't be so long big the best deal with it deal. Deal. Here. We are are there any final knows. I mean there have been John Williamson. I mean, what are the final thoughts on? What's next? I I don't. That's that's my the. Going to go to the NBA. Probably. That's true. Well, let's let's do a postmortem real quick on Duke. I know we already a kind of have we should on him a little bit. This is again, we talk about Duke a lot already know people rolling their eyes. Go more do talk fund but Duke was the team of the season. This was this is what we we kind of set. It all season was like even the teams that were good. You always like stack them up against Duke because Duke played all these teams are left all the teams ever basically at the top. There was some sort of like how do they compare to do for Zaghlul's like, well, they beat Duke. So they're legit. That's how we know. They're legit. And it's like Virginia's legit, but they also lost the Duke twice or it felt like everything the season revolved around Duke, and it feels like every season, I know for a lot of people, but this year in particular with three recruits. So my question to you. And I feel like I know where you're going to say, but like is this this has to be a failure of a season for Duke. Right. But not really because at the same time. I wrote an article way back at the start of the season in November December where the thesis was basically like it doesn't matter. What's going to happen to do because they've already won. And now that I think about it. That's true that they did win at the end of the season. No matter the end of the day. We're all winners. That's what you're saying. Whoever won the national championship. Don't you think like most people are gonna remember this as the year Zion near of Duke? I'm not saying I will I'm saying like, well that's larger question. What is what is hurting the situation? The Duke brand is not heard co here's case a different game. Like it is a successful season for Duke because it's the headline game. Yes, they gained a lot of Twitter followers. They they were on sports center. All the time. They had ESPN doing their tour in the documentary. So does it even matter that they didn't make the final four. I don't think. So I mean, that's the Kentucky's playing the same game. And we'll get to their game in a second. But not so much with this team. But like, that's what Callan K or doing that. Where it's like they wanna get guys drafted. They wanna get their brand out there are they even trying to win anymore. It's hard to say the fact that if you pull Bill in here right now, and he told them the Duke has been two to four since. Oh four and Kentucky's won one national championship under John Calipari. I I would love to see what his reaction. Well, he believes the cow thing. He's trust Kelsey Joe class Caltex title. But no, I just feel like I feel like casual fans that that just tune in for the tournament. They they are under the assumption that Duke and Kentucky are our head and shoulders above everyone else in college basketball every single year because they have done the best job of branding themselves of convincing everybody that there's only two teams of matter. And then when you actually look at the stats like wait, they've been to to fun, and I know they've won the two titles. But I dunno feels like dukes men to seven final fours unless fifteen years feels like Kentucky's won four national championships under calbury. Well, that's 'cause that's called the press. You know, that that is the hyperbole of the coverage has gone on with both programs. But I also want to say. To me. I compare it to the twenty fifteen Kentucky team the team that obviously loss to decker. And all those guys Kaminsky, Wisconsin that that whole bunch that whole run I compared to them. But the thing is the failsafe for that twenty fifteen is well, we were thirty eight. No we made the final four, right? Those are it's hard to argue that the failsafe is we wanted a tournament. And I I mean that may carry some cash shea in some circles, you know, in Durham and other places probably the Hamptons. But other than that, you know what I mean? That's why that's why I would say from that standpoint. It's more of a failure than twenty fifteen Kentucky. But also, it it doesn't matter because the brand matters coach Kane canine, inches were managers keeping the machine churning deadly. And the machine is going to continue to churn, and that's all that matters. And it's tweet out the mar zion's top ten dunks season. Right. Yeah. That's what it is. And everyone remembers that like you're you're right in the sense that what we will. Remember is not what is should be remembered read is that is the world we live in the same way that most people know Lonzo ball instead of you know, someone who's actually playing basketball. That's pretty good. Josh Jackson, like, that's the I think I think the only way I think Virginia wins the title that could sort of mitigate the remembrance of Duke. I think Virginia winning no disrespect the other three teams. And I think you're wrong about that. Because what will happen is Virginia? One's a title. Everyone's remember the Duke beat the do. He's twice in Virginia. Never beaten. That's a good point. It all all roads lead back to. Luke my God. Oh, we have two other games to talk about Texas. Tech fans are losing their minds because they're like we're the best team left in the tournament. You guys have even talked about us really all season. Which is not true. Now have first of all Secondly, we have not talked about their game with Kentucky which in any other year would have been the game of the tournament. But this was a very different year. So we're gonna take a break. We'll come back hit Texas Tech, Gonzaga. And the Auburn Kentucky game Porco. All right. Quick break. The talk about CBS sports HQ, as you know, folks, we are in the heat of one of the greatest ordinate events on the calendar. I'm not going to say one of the greatest of all time March madness. And the best place to stay on top of all the NCAA tournament. Coverage is CBS sports HQ. What is that eight? 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The first game on Saturday. Feels like a lifetime ago as all these games in this tournament do especially when they're stacked like one great game after another. We had to go back and kind of refresh our memories as to what happened all I remember was the Josh Perkins tech. Honestly like at as I was watching the game. I remember thinking like this is one of the best games I've ever seen in my life. And then by the time Sunday night rolled around. I was like what happened in that game? Yeah. The Josh Perkins. Basically a one possession game the entire game. This was back and forth as close of a game as as you could possibly ask for up until the end. Yeah. The first half, it was nine lead changes back just kept. I felt like every time Mooney Mooney was great in the first half of the like eleven points in the first half was kind of getting everything going for that Texas Tech team. And it was that same situation where every time Tex Mex running a hit back in the mouth by Brandon Clark, doing some amazing and athletic and it felt like Ryuhachi Mora was trying to score fifty points. Yes. From. The start from the very beginning. He was like I've heard a lot about this defense. But I'm gonna go at him in the bliss. This is this is my breakout game. This is my over the shoulder turn around little hook chat every single time. Yeah. It it felt like he was going to have like a Derrick Williams moment with with their Zona. When when he destroyed Duke human, then got like that was what's gonna have. He's like everyone's watching on the norm going up against the top defense. In college basketball. My draft stock is questionable is they allies. The new show does anybody know where I'm gonna actually go drafted. I'm gonna put it into all of that. I'm going to go nuts on Texas Tech. And he did play. Well, yet hit a really good game brain Clark, what he finished with like six turnovers those tough then like to see that. But Texas Tech's defense, man. I don't know. What else we can say about it? They're incredible. They've been they have one of the I think someone said there now number one and Kim palm of all time the diva the entire history of Kim palm has been tracking defense. I think this is the number one defense ever. That's a totally since like. Yeah. That's that's something. And. And on top of that. Like we keep saying most of the time when you hear that about defenses. There's always a letdown offensively in in at times that has been the case with Texas Tech when you can catch them on a random game in January or February. It's like my God this offense as a trophy that has not been the case for very long time. Which is why Gonzaga did not play poorly in this game, Gonzaga? I thought was the best team in the country for most of the season. Even come into the terminal like in Zagreb became the the odds on favourite to win. Right. Isn't that you do the game lean podcast and didn't like as Duke was struggling in these games skins aga- become the favorite to win. Yeah. Over time. I think they ended up in a they didn't lose this game because they choke. They didn't lose this game because they didn't play. Well, they didn't lose this game because someone got hurt and or anything like that. It was the maybe the best team in the country. They played like a b plus a minus game. And Texas Tech is just that damn good. And do the numbers going into this game Gonzaga number one in the country and scoring eighty eight points per game and every single analysts going into it is like, well, they have to keep them keep his game in the sixties. You know, what I mean the classic races sixty nine this is where we're going to be at. And it felt like Mark few set at halftime as they were going in who's getting interviewed. He said, you know, we talk about the defense with his team. I think we're running great offense. We're getting good shots. But you gotta say something about their offense. Because it's sort of the same thing you expect a team that has designed is sort of like a West Virginia field to it. Where a team that is designed around his defense is not going to have the horses on natty. Yes. Or to state at time, exactly. Like, it's going to be ugly on the other side. But instead Moonies a smooth guy. I mean, Culver is ready. A smooth guy Moretti, I mean, Moretti's family flew and he hasn't seen him in a year. And they show that pre-game they're like Moretti's families here. And in my mind, I'm like, oh, that's tough. Because sometimes you, you know, you know, how it is pillow hero ball res-. You're trying to show off and say, you know, welcome mom and dad. This is what I do in Texas. You know? You know, I don't have my well, my parents never actually came to any of my game. So I actually. I have no idea but continue anyway Moretti hits those big threes. I mean, he had the moments where you had the turnovers, but but whatever it was it was like big shop. I'm ready every single time that Gonzaga was like, okay, we got we got our feet underneath us a little bit here. We're fine. It's going back and forth. But we're at the end of the day. We're the better team Texas Tech made these big plays. And it wasn't a situation where it's Carson Edwards in covert being that guy or covers like I had to. I'm the one that has take the shot and run an offense misconception tech is that. And this this has been true as well. So like if you have this misconception. It's not necessarily your fault because you probably just call it the wrong Texas Tech games throughout the season. But the misconception is that. Okay. So their offense isn't horrendous. But it's still just jerk over Karen them. It's still going back to Cincinnati because I love shooting on how much hate Macron's system. Like Jerry over his Sean Kilpatrick on the Cincinnati teams were like, he's the one. Okay. So he's the one guy though, I'll I'll give you that. They have. One guy who can score. But that's it. That is not the case with Texas. Tech mooney. Moretti are great that they're they're kind of the difference in why Texas Tech has has become so good as you can count on. At least one of those guys to bring it offensively. Here's the analogy. I threw throw this out as we were watching it, basically when when to Rico inside the block and then he stepped on the he stepped out of bounds. But they didn't call it and saved it at the end of the game. Who do you block was a Perkins at the was Perkins? Yeah. Maybe was Norville. I don't remember. But he has a block in the corner, and he stepped online there, we go all the all these lines. Are they just keep coming up said at the time? I mean, if he had made that save like when he goes up and makes the block and he catches it at the time. They caught it like it was a real. I mean, right. That would have been one of the greatest blocks of all it'd be up there with Zion Virginia, blah, he he didn't go with. But I mean, Ted the presence of mind. Yeah. To come down and land and throw the ball back of me as I saw that play on folding. I thought to myself that is a chemo work. And then I thought is Jarrett Kover Carmelo Anthony. And then his mood is Matt Mooney. Gerry McNamara or Moretti Gerry McNamara? It doesn't matter. But then I I just couldn't get that on my head. I was like is this oath receiver accuse with the chemo work in Carmelo? That's that's as close as I got to the algae the flesh this out more, but three gallons. This reminds me of teamwork and then Jericho over I guess, but and then Mooney has the buzz. He's gonna get the MacNamara look a little bit the MacNamara vibe. So I don't know. I'm ready has the he has his big threes in that game. I think it was three minutes left to get it like sixty three to fifty nine. And then he hit the other one with one forty something. Like that in the game was sixty six sixty those are moments like at Syracuse every time that it would have to happen. Either. Melo would go ice o and get a bucket for you or you'd have a McNamara big three like that Moretti sort of fell into that same vein. I want to point this out red raiders three now against zag tournament beat him in two thousand five two thousand seven beat 'em in twenty nineteen. Congratulations. Yes. Is that true? There are undefeated going into the game. There were a little little mental Evan's little little brother syndrome. They will rank line cow guy in this. You know? Yeah. Works out. I just now noticed this by my tech. So Texas Tech won the big twelve. Michigan state won the big ten Virginia one ACC in Auburn won the SEC tournament which the the regular season SEC, but they did one C tournament. And I bring that up just to say the like it. It's cool that we have four teams from power conferences that all our champions. You know, what I mean, they're not that not that? It's not fun. When there's a Cinderella. There's not it's not fun when some like team to finish fourth in their conference makes around or whatever. But all these teams are deserving to be here. They've been great all year in their own ways. And and that's pretty cool. So I don't I don't know why I thought of that right now. But I just wanted to say that until I forgot I forgot Chris beard said what I felt Barkley was going to say, which is, you know, auburn's going to the final four for the first time. But instead Crispin Texas Tech is going to the final four, and then everyone is kind of like. Yeah. Of course. And they said no, I want to say that again, Texas Tech people in the back, Texas Tech. I coach them they're going to the final four and then. You're welcome. Look at me what an act seriously. I mean, it is unbelievable. I mean in in the context of I think, that's the beauty of this. Final four where you said. There's no Cinderella. But Cinderellas are fun to a certain extent like loyalist fun. But then you watch him plans. Like, I gotta watch loyal to play in the final four. Yeah. Auburn is good on their door. Again. It's did everyone to win. Texas Tech is really good. And then different. They're going to go the final four. I mean, that's I think that's Virginia. The first final four we've seen with Tony Bennett. Every I it's it's good teams. But it's different teams. And that's all have all four. These teams have very very obvious identities that could be just boiled down to one bullet point Michigan state. Toughest shit Virginia Paklin defense Auburn shoot a ton of threes. Texas Tech best defense, maybe in modern college basketball. Boom. That's it. That's that's all you really need to know. But there's more to him than that. But it's also interesting to me that we talk about, you know, offense and basketball and all this sort of stuff, especially. At the next level. But it's been all defense has usually ended up late tournament me too stupid cliche as it is defense wins championships. Michigan state was the better defensive team today. Texas Tech sort of the same thing. I it's whoever's the more physical team the team that is kinda taking it to whoever they're playing. I mean, it's a little bit of a confidence game going, but Texas Tech for as much as you would you would expect them to have a little bit of a complex to say. We're not supposed to go the final four the confidence and the way that they play down the stretch of wasn't. I'm holding the ball. And I hope the clock run. Exactly. It was. Oh, I got an open three. I'm taking it. Yes. That's that's inspiring. They're scary, man. They dick legit win. This thing they picked what seventh in the big twelve coming into season crispier. That's that's the that's the big clarity wins for the red raiders has not said to UCLA either. I'm still calling my show. He's he's he's going to be his coach. I don't I don't really have any information on this other than the under armor connection in the fact that Chris beards like the hottest coach in college basketball, right now and. Gets a bigger offer from Texas. It will say Texas is gonna give them all a college basketball coach, we'll get some bigger bigger offer. If you're Texas near say, I want the best right now is it Tony Bennett. Is it Chris beard? It's not Bruce barrel. Is it coach who is the guy because I think Chris beard is probably I think across the board it he has the Bob Knight toughness that people like, you know, as far as just a general fan. Yeah. So he can settle he sells to a broad audience. As far as the way coaches the way handles his players. It's all about respect family all sorts of stuff and in the locker room afterwards. They play that amona take mind. Whatever that song is you I I mean, I know it, but I don't I don't be listening to that. You know? I don't know the song. That's what I mean. I thought for sure you know, I mean, I watched the video, and I was like that looks sweet it's obviously something kids are into. Worse than. And then they were going crazy though. The the most fun thing about this. Final four for me is the exasperation and the excitement of the guys. It doesn't seem like Dookie almost feel like, of course, we're going to final four teen in Kentucky. We w- routines were supposed to do. Texas Tech is like less go over Julia's doing the same thing. They're going crazy. They're popping bottles. And I don't know that means fun. The one team that was shouldn't be that excited just in terms of their history. And all that kind of stuff is Michigan state in like like, we said like Thomas was on the verge of tears when you finally got over the hump against K. And it was almost like studies like this wasn't supposed to happen. We were supposed to just keep it close. And and the design was supposed to make some absurd play and beat us. Speaking of speaking of Chris beard and Bob Knight. I told you this off air, but I want to repeat it just for all the people listening. I will say our conversations offaire are way better than I feel like I've already said everything that I come to say Pete's. Yeah. Exact-? Echoed us new UPN conversations off wherever we're so much smarter off there. Better off the record. I told you I watched I was watching nice school the the ESPN. ESPN reality. This is absurd that this happened Kyle. There's no way, you know, about this. Now, I'm looking at up now, though, there's a there's a show called nice school. It's like that movie with Tiffany, haddish heart. I love that. I ever do that where Bob Knight had taken over the job at Texas Tech. This is after he got fired in Indiana for choking student or no he choked to joke. Tabasco you grab a student's arm. Anyway, he gets fired. He goes to Texas Tech and ESPN does this reality show where guys are trying out to be walk ons for Texas Tech, and it's the funniest shit. Like the very first episode nights coming. He has all the guys sitting down like it's camp. And that's like the most emasculating thing ever is like all these guys are college age kids trying to play college basketball, and they're sitting there like criss cross applesauce. And they're sitting there in just waiting for the teacher to come out. And it's it's the funniest thing because Knight Knight comes out in the very first thing, he says is like, you know, I it would serve a lot of you. Well to take your hats off or turn them forward. But he says that condescending night way. Where you see the guys just like slowly like sorry, sir. Or in take the hat off. And that's my dad is number one rule not saying I was a catcher, none of my hat backwards. Like, you know warmed up for the game during the head around. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I was that triggers. People people get upset about that's that's the ultimate sign of disrespect. It's it's one level of flicking someone some people. Yeah. You're absolutely right. It serious. You the direction of your life is the direction your bills Moines gun that wanna laugh when I was when I was working backward. Tat's back in the day. Yeah. But the reason I bring that up. I was watching. I watched a few of these episodes. I have no idea why this is just what happens sometimes with me. I'm on the internet. It'd be great about Nate says you're dismissed after yet without. Yeah. Crispier was an assistant as this was going on. And there's a lot of lot of really fun crispier moments of of like, I none that I can really relate. It's nothing like no isolated incident. It's just the fact you're seeing like the hottest coaching college basketball, who's an assistant for Bob. Knight on a fucking reality show on ESPN. And this was what fifteen years ago just all of that thrown together to what to go back and watch it is pretty do. They have like confessionals where Chris beard sitting in a room. And he's like I like the way Walker was planning today. But you know, coach nights not a fan when you know, he came in with a backwards hat. Yeah. They kind of do the players told me. Like, oh my God. Coach night. Chris Chris write down notes. He's like all right. Yeah. Teaching the defense. Yeah. Don't choke. It is funny. How they talk about. Like, what are you talk about? Chris beard beat a night disciple. Just how much you're willing to say. He's a night decide you're like, he's a night disciple. But in a good way like he he knows how to win. But like the other stuff not so much. It's funny to watch people talk about he knows how to stop at the finger wag. Yeah. Exactly. The Tom Izzo finger. Wag is is where he draws the line. Anyway, Texas Tech, we we I'll speak for Tate. We are very impressed with what we're seeing from Texas Tech. This is not fluky in any way, shape or form. I guess Gonzaga played very well. I thought in this game not perfect. But obviously not perfect. They were what they had sixteen turnover. Bring Clark was getting ripped every time. We put the ball on the floor. But would you be upset if you were marked you or if you were someone else in that team and Perkins obviously reaches over the line gets technical in that pretty much. There's it's a two point game at that time he wipes his arm. I mean, it he could say it was intentional or whatever may be. But it ends up costing them the game. Which is unfortunate. Again comes back to what you're talking about foot on the line. These lines. The lines handy ally. What are we doing? So much controversy with these lines. Just get rid of them. Do we need them? I ask you this about Duke. I'll ask you about saga. Because I think this is an interesting discussion we can have a couple of minutes. What is this season mean for Gonzaga in the sense that they want basically for me from my perspective, Gonzaga is sort of in national championship or bus mentality. That's the only thing left for them to do. They don't need a four hundred and seventh C title. You know, like they have they've run out of room their trophy cases for W C C title. They don't need anymore. Those really all they're working towards two years ago. Three years ago was two years ago was the final four they get over that hump. They make it to the title game. They're so close against Carolina ball bounces different way. A couple of times they probably win the national championship. Probably some would say the the whistle blows a different way a couple of times, they're probably winning the national championship. So I feel like as a program, obviously each team is different like Rui hatch Amirah doesn't care that. They. Didn't win the title that you're like he's trying to do his own thing. And and whatever so he's probably happy to win the WCC, whatever. But as a program, it feels like in zag has gotten to national title or bus mentality. And I think to lose in the elite has to be disappointing. But at the same time like you're the best team all season, you've kind of proven like no one really doubts saag anymore. Like they used to where they were the chokers in the tournament. Kind of like they were the Cinderella. Everyone loved them that they started choking when the Morrison crying thing was going on. And then they kind of had that Virginia run. Whereas like, I'm not I'm never picking for Gonzaga. They've gotten over all of that. So what what else is there to do for Zog as a program other than national title? And if they don't wanna national title, I I'm I'm left like, especially this might have been the best thing they've ever had. So my my my instinct is to say that this has to be disappointing in failures probably too strong of a word. But well, how do you how do you see this? I think that the twenty seventeen team was more of the the right every single piece on that team sort of fit where you had the garden williams-goss who could Perkins. Is a beaver Zhelev williams-goss in the sense that I think the twenty seventeen was better. But also, they weren't like Zach Collins wasn't playing the Karnowski minutes of the minutes were in it wasn't set up the right way in that sense. And then this team. I mean this as stupid as it is. I mean, this is a terrible is a bad batch of Texas Tech is such a good team that I mean, I think it was three league match. They had to play a good team. I mean, a sucks and they played poor. I mean, they didn't play their best game Clark was the top of the turnovers. I mean, he had a couple of just boneheaded moments in this game. And then even the Perkins thing. I mean, that's such a you don't win championships making stupid plays. I mean, that's that's what I made. I thought I thought when I say Gonzaga played well, like, I don't mean they were perfect, obviously, they they did have a lot of bone edit. They could've fixed. I just mean. Like, I don't think Texas Tech won this game. Because zagging choked. I don't think Texas Tech one because Gonzaga, you know, I don't think the story from this game. Is that consi- didn't do XYZ? I think it's that Texas Tech is good as shit for me. You you disagree? That's okay. We can do that on this program. I was gonna say basically, I would look at it in the same way that Duke is the way that they handle the situation where we expect that we're going to be able to come back in this game. We are good enough do that we have the talent to do that. And if you've been playing the WCC yet, we're down to Saint Mary's, but we can get back in this game. Because look at look at who we are looking right. We have. And then in this game. You played Texas Tech. They make you pay when you don't score with is a woman. In game. And you come down you have empty possession. You don't run a good set, and you dribble it off your knee? Or you throw it away. They're coming down there hitting the three that's pretty much what it was. And Gonzaga was a compounding situation where there was no way to come back. And it felt like they thought that it was just going to happen. And again, like Mark view in this team. The reason I think it's we're Gonzaga's a program. That's a good place to be the national championship or bust their past the Virginia level, we'd got to the final four. We did that Virginia. Just check that box. Then after this year, depending on what happens if they don't win the title. Now, they're in the territory like we're we're trying to win a title. We're trying to build a team to win a title. I don't think Mark view. I don't think this is much of a deflating loss for Mark view as it is for coach K. And do I think Duke was more all in Texas Tech is deflated for Duke is. No, no. Oh, you're okay. Sorry. Sorry. I got confused there for oh. It could be it could be, but Mark view in general. I mean, they're going to be fine there the class of the west coast. Yeah. It they will be back. I mean, you're married. But no, yeah. You Pepperdine but back for now rumour? All right. Let's talk about the last game. We gotta we gotta rep disting- up in the curse of it's wild that a game in which Kentucky loses. And it goes to overtime in the elite eight is the last game. We're talking about like did that this was not the game that immediately came to mind when it came time to talk about all that happened in Italy date. That's just how great this lady. Was that one of these games had to be last? We're we're we decided that Auburn Kentucky would be last just because that's kind of how shook out but. Where do we start with this? This was a two man effort for Auburn fifty combined points from Bryce Brown and Jared Harper they they were unstoppable Kentucky's guards were not good in this game. Tyler hero was not a bucket. Unfortunately, title hero was so not a bucket that like by the end of the game. It felt like he was very timid in passive and did not almost didn't wanna shoot which was wild to me. I'm not saying he didn't wanna shoot. I just like he passed up some shots at like Tyler hero from who. Do they I forgive you even play Houston? That's right. Tyler here from the Houston game would have pulled. And then he would he get these spots. He made his movie do like a step back. Like now, I'm not gonna shoot that one. And they pass it up or it was the hesitation on the first pass catches the ball hagan's drives kicks it out. And then instead of pulling it, right, then he takes a dribble. Takes a second little hesitation the hero hesitation. But Donna good way at after the game, which you just said they had two guys get fifty points thinking about that. You know, what I mean think about that? And you have quickly have Hagans give guys like a match up on the perimeter Harper. You know, he's a Johnny Flint. I is a small kid that has the speed to get by you, obviously. But you're also the size to garden, but he was going crazy on Hagen's by getting beat down the floor time. And this is what I was talking about with Carolina. They did the same thing to conduct the did Carolina. Which is all right? You wanna you wanna play? It. You won't play hardball. You play fastball. We that's what we wanna do. And we're going to do it better than you. And we're gonna play tougher than you. And yes, this is the game that you wanna play quote, unquote. But guess what we're gonna do a better. I mean, that's that's a simple as it was and for all and is a program to be Kansas to be North Carolina. And then to be Kentucky to go to their first final four. I mean that is you know, that's a storybook run for a program for Auburn basketball. I mean, they about eighty four one of the one of my roommates from college his dad Bill fly put it on the Richmond team that beat Barkley. They eighty fourteen was supposed to make this big run. Auburn were so good. And they get upset by a guy by the name of Bill fly. You know what I mean? That's that's what they've had this history of we could do this. But we don't do. It and they get over the hump. That's great for a program. Great for Barclay, Bruce Pearl. It is what it is. Is what he said. He said is said, I'm a mutt. That's what he said. After the game. They were like they talked about all the recruits and they had coming in there. You know, Kansas Carolina. They didn't recruit these guys they didn't crews recruit Harper Brown, or whatever it may be. He was like, I'm a mutt. Too. Did I I've said my piece numbers pro we don't need to go down that road. Again. This was a great Bruce pro game. First of all, Bruce, Berlin, great coach. I I should've. I should've made that point. I was going in on his character. And how yeah, he probably shouldn't be coaching college basketball anymore. But he a great coach. We we had a grey Bruce pro game today from the the reactions. I mean, he he coached a game. Whatever who cares about that the demand sweating is ball's off like making the the getting so frustrated the one where he was shaking his head the looking bulldog. Yeah, it was fantastic. We also should mention Auburn should've lost in the first round for being honest to Mexico state, not I'm not disparaging Auburn nothing. They don't belong. I'm just reminding like how fickle the NCAA tournament is we kind of made this point last year with Michigan that if Jordan. Who'll does it make them? Iraqi the shot to beat Houston is Michigan's like Michigan the outlook on Michigan is completely different. It's wild. How those little those little moments just change everything. Well, it's twenty fifteen Virginia. They lose to Michigan state in the second round. Right. I mean that's the game. It's the seven two games. So if things don't bouncer right way, then it's a complete failure. It's so wild hell, I'm not saying I'm smarter than everyone. And I don't do this. Because I I fall victim to the students. It just re these reminders of how much weight you put in just seconds of the NCAA tournament that the ball bounce this way. So that means that this coach is a genius. And this coach is a fucking idiot and all that kind of stuff, but Auburn had that moment against New Mexico state that if Auburn like the Bruce Pearl right now, everyone is kissing his ass. Glowing reviews. Bruce, how can you not love this guy? He loves his players so much like who would not who. How can you not love sprawl barbecue what's up? It's a barbecued come off. What's the this a big that was that was years ago? How do you not live Bruce borough? No one would be saying anything if they lost in Mexican state like this should have. And again, I'm. I'm not saying they don't belong. It's just like that stuff. Fascinates me that that Bruce Pearl's like entire perception has been changed because AJ Harris didn't wanna shoot the layup. And he kicked it out for three. And then the guy miss one of the free throws. And that's what it comes becomes. The tournament. Yeah. And I wanted to get away from Bruce, bro. Because I think it's it's about mo- KiKi. I think it's now Harper I think is about Brown. It's all guys on this team that you can tell I mean, even Bruce bro like we're playing. This is the these guys love each other. And I basically told them if you buy together, you're the town to do this. And they've done I mean Schumer for the before the game said he couldn't be in the building. Like it was too much for him to bear to watch them play without him being on the floor. And then Dunbar comes out he's wearing his jersey in warm ups before the game Dunbar. Also that huge block rated staredown. Yes. It was nice. That could have been a technical. I like did they weren't calling and texting contexts? Zazi wreck game. They're like our let these guys talk that. Which was nice good to see. But Chuma comes out in the wheelchair. I mean. And it's the it feels like almost like a Kevin ware. We're we're so because he he lives my question. But the team didn't know they didn't know that he was gonna come. I mean, they were inspired by that. And this is the debate that's going to tear this country apart is aqui Kevin ware or sister, gene. Which which does he fall? He's Kevin zero is Barclays sister Jean. Okay. That's where. Until you do say, you're tweeting on a podcast. That's a that's a fun movie that people do where they're like tweeted this. Mr. wrote a story on the radio dot com. Fazli Barclay picked his team to lose in this race. My piece on Berkeley being RT myself right now. Yeah. Barclay picked his team to lose in the Sweet Sixteen and obviously they did not now they're in the final four. We remember last year sister, gene at a very similar thing. And then wanted to do a revisionist history where that never happened. She was scrapped scrapped the bracket. Get it away from me. So you know, here we are Charles Barkley. So let's get him in a wheelchair. Let's roll him in. Let's let him wave to the crowd. Where little you know, something around. I don't know what he would wear. I guess an Auburn. I don't know like a tiger tail or something like that something give him a sister Jean treatment. And let this man live limb thrive. He said he's excited. So I'm excited Ashton Hagans. Did not have a good game. I don't I don't wanna rip on Higgins. I just want to point out that he had seven turnovers. I felt like that was where Kentucky at one point. I noticed Ashman guards will be freshman going. Yeah. But I thought they were sophomores now. Oh, that's right. It's up. It's been a. Yeah. In four months. It's weird. I'd it's confusing. I can't follow that ask. Hagen's? The only reason I bring it up is because I felt like Kentucky was in trouble. When I started noticing Ashton Hagans more than anyone else on their team. That was a problem for me hero as we said kind of disappeared. PJ Washington was killing PJ. Washington was great love that kid. He's not gonna come back here. There's no way comes back who who's Kentucky losing the we even know Calvin Johnson's probably gone whether heroes are gonna go. It becomes a test the water situation, which is the entire team will announce that they're going to test the waters, and it'll have the combine at Kentucky. The Kentucky Brad will be there. There will be reported that Brad made ninety out of one hundred three's. Which will be great. Yeah. They'll all announced. I'm so sad that they didn't make it. We were going to try to get Brad on the pod if Kentucky made it to the the demeaning we're actually going to get him on. But didn't didn't look it. I was going to try to get it. I was going to call in some favors and get breakout Perry on the podcast if Kentucky made it if the final if he agreed to do it. And you didn't show up wearing a mock turtleneck dressing Justice breakout point in you. Brad haircut. And you it was a it was a tough day for. But I honestly I think he handled the the loss rate. Well, because again, all they did they're playing great basketball. I mean, they're playing in your grill. There's one shot one never is a fun team. Auburn is th they're fun to watch. They're funded route four they have Harper at twelve points in overtime. Did he really Asahi's eleven for eleven from the line? That's incredible. Brett Brown was taken dumb shot. He had like the Carson Edwards there for five minutes stretch resist like my God, just the one sequence where it gets fouled on the three makes the first two free throws. Mrs Steele's the ball turns in the corner and turns and fires it up in his at three as a five possession. Swing from just Brown. And that's one of the moments. We talk about again, it's like that that play happens and you say to yourself. Oh, Auburn I mean, they're they're not backing down there. Very happy to be in a situation. And it's tough Kentucky to play a team that you beat twice to play them with every time that is a very bad draw in that sense. And it's also one of those things. With Kentucky going into this game. I mean all over the they know you I mean, it's just like we know what PJ washes gonna do. I saw a lot of people, you know, big blue nations very upset that PJ washing. He struggled with his free throw shooting. You know, people are pointing he six of eleven those are five points that we needed. You know, that stuff is is ridiculous. PJ was great in this game for the most part. Yeah. That three he hit just to keep them in at the end. I mean that made a statement to me, but they had no guy like you said that one of the shot. Kelvin ended up having to take the shot a all the time and just getting swatted. I felt like this Kentucky team all season was I don't know. There's this. There. This. Yeah. They did sort of feel like overachieved. There's always some about it. Because even when they were doing well, and I I started to believe in them a little bit. I will say like Tyler the one cool, David tither hero figured out how to play at this level where I obviously people have been listening to podcasts know how much I hated him in November. And and especially what happened to do game. But he figured it out. That was cool. But I just never liked really loved the way their roster meshed together and play together. Even when they were waiting. I was like I'm acknowledging that they're winning. I I guess maybe it could have been wrong about them. But but never the idea of like Kentucky plane on TV. I have to watch this team because they're so fun to watch. And they're so good. I never really had that thought. So. Yeah, I I don't think there's a bad season for Kentucky. If we're going to do the post mortem for all these teams I've lost. I think I think Kentucky making you lead as a good season. And it was getting because at the end in his press conference. What did he say he didn't say tough day for my kids? He said, I love my guys. That's that's all you can ask for that. Is that is a bonus the. Yeah, that's how you get there. That's all. You can ask for that's that's more important than go on the phone before. I would say is having coach Cal call you guys. Auburn is a scary matchup for Virginia Virginia's better than Auburn Virginia, especially the KiKi penile Virginia should win. I saw the spread earlier it was like five or something four and a half of a Virginia should be considered the better team in this game. But this is I mean, if you're Virginia fan, you're watching Kentucky Auburn play you one hundred percent one to Kentucky to win that game Kentucky is like a normal basketball team. They they run normal sets. They have normal personnel. Auburn is not Auburn just goes balls to the wall Jack's threes. That's a nightmare Scituate coming off the Carson Edwards game to now have to play these two guards. That are just you have no idea. What the hell's going to happen when they step on the floor that they're capable of doing basically anything. That's that's a I don't know. I'm not worried about Virginia Virginia's gonna win the national tied up and saying I'm going to continue to say till it happens. But this is not a fun matchup for Virginia not match, but I will say. As final four at large going into it. It's a greater offer Tom Izzo going against these three coaches that are in a new environment new type of situations. Final four for all of them. They've never been here since will play a role in the final four. Yeah. A couple of times. What what was the remember the status all four your players under Tommaso into one final four. And then like that that that became the big ten Saturday because they like because it was great goings in this going. Of course, you remember he was on the twenty fifteen team. But then they had they had the one gap where it didn't happen. And then they change it to just five your players. And then I did we ever get to the point where it's all six year players down. I don't know if he ever gets be Tom is us back, Mr. March's back. Let's let's very quickly talk about these games coming up. What are we looking for in the final four? What is I mean? We already kind of touched on it. But I I just this. Michigan state, Texas Tech is all these games are great. That's like I I keep saying it. But it's it's it's a great fun of four it. I know that most people want to do or Kentucky in there. Because those are the names they know I know Bill said who's the best player left in the final four. And that's a fascinating thing. Like who's who's the guy the NBA player or MBA fans should care about? I guess John. Jay hunter jerick over probably. Yeah. I was gonna say if you are watching from that vantage point, which I don't know how many people actually watched that way. But let's say that they actually do cO Ververs hunter in the title game would be something to watch just because. Yeah, they are quote unquote, every single draft guide will say they are Leonard to pointer IRA. And so if they play other you can see that match especially on defense with both those guys, but I mean overall both these games are good draws the they have played Texas to every single team. That's in the. Now, it doesn't feel like a Sira leaf to get here at felt like they had to overcome and do something like make a run like Virginia did or whatever may be to get here. So I think it makes for a fun week in Minneapolis. I think they're all here to win it too. And and we're not the people that would I'm not even joking win. Not even taking a job. Well, loyalty wasn't there to win it last year. Like, there's always I feel like there's typically one team where you're like. All right. So like Michigan state we keep keep bringing up the twenty fifteen tournament for some reason when Michigan state was there. They knew they weren't going to win it. They had to play Duke. And then they had to play the winner of Kentucky, and Wisconsin they were like, I mean, we hope we win, but we're not gonna win it. It does feel like there's often one team that doesn't really belong in. Auburn would be that team with this field, but they belong there. You have no idea what the folks going to happen when you have a team to shoot that many threes. And is that hot right now? So literally nothing that happens in the final four would surprise me it if it's Auburn Texas Tech that would be shocking and given like going into the season. No one would have predicted Auburn. Versus Texas Tech. If Auburn beat Texas Tech for the title. But now that I'm looking at it. It's like that would not surprise me one bit. If Auburn beat Texas Tech to win the national championship, if it's to Under Armour teams under armor has to put a campaign out of God's plan and them saying this show all the FBI reports for there's no under armor mentioned. And then they just are two teams in the final. That'd be great. Yeah. And at large I will say this whatever team wins an ashtray manship. It's either Michigan state wins the the league the most chalk scenarios at Michigan state wins the title for the first time since two thousand regardless we have history that is on the way. And that's exciting. We get Texas Tech. Obviously first time here. Auburn first time here Virginia first time under Bennett, whatever none of them have won national titles. We we have in at t's every day. I mean there there is a can't lose do. Yeah. Said everybody went I can't lose. Because I said this year, the one thing I want is the big ten to one a title or to really streak none since two thousand or a new team because it's been since two thousand six Florida was the last time a new champion was crowned. We're getting one of those. Well, we're definitely getting one of those Kyle. It's great. It's happening. We did it. We did it. Congrats us. Yeah. I I can't wait to get to Minneapolis. We're going to be there when we fly Wednesday Wednesday. Yes, we're going to be there Wednesday. We we are still. I guess before you give anything else before go quickly Vanderbilt, Jerry Stackhouse round NORAD two guys are getting talked about for that job. But other than that Vanderbilt. Yeah. Ronald nor it your boy, Indiana Ronald NORAD coach in my high school. That's a story for another day. Maybe he after Butler, he became the head coach in my high school, and it was a it was a decision that was not well received by the community to have a twenty two year old Twenty-three-year-old negotiate a little too close United program that just one the largest division state championship with Gordon Hayward in a way. But anyway, that's a story for another day before we go one more campaign. We are trying to I I've been saying the state, I don't know if you're even aware this I got a phone call from we we have a mole inside of inter sport. Which is this production company? That's put it on the slam dunk contest. And we've been campaigning trying to become dunk judge contests. Judges. I have a mole with we already said we have a mole within the production company. That's putting it on it is happening on Thursday. And they said that they actually do have a spot open like they have they have like a they've been calling people trying to get them to be judges, and they have a spot open in our mole. I'm not gonna name names. But here she told me that there is a non zero chance because they're making a bunch of calls trying to get people to 'cause they wanna have forget how many judges they said they won't have like one spot open and a lot of people don't really want to do it. And I was like motherfucker we wanna do this. Let us do this. So I'm not really sure why I'm saying this on the podcast. But if you wanna continue if you want to continue to arrest at college, slam it might happen. It might we're going to be there. Anyway, that's the other thing is like we're already there. Just let us just add an extra seat if if need be I don't know. So I wanted to put that out there. I'm not I'm not asking for people to harass at college slim. I'm just saying you're not asking. Demanding. I'm just saying that's one thing that could happen that people could do that. And that is well within your rights. I think maybe not maybe Twitter, Twitter perspective. What are doing whatever? That's it. We are. We are next time. You hear our voices? We will be in Minnesota boots on the ground doing some journalism. We have some guests. We have a couple of guests lined up already. But we're just going to basically walk around with microphones and shove him in people's faces. We should take a microphone to the this big party that we went through last year. We're all these coaches are drunk off their ass, basically shove microphones in people's faces and see how long it takes before get kicked out shadowed. Diana Williams, step dad for we're gonna Dita sweatshirt because I was the most Dita's coverage we got this tournament. So that's my final thought. Good luck to all the teams in the final four. I keep saying that every round I just feel like it's it makes me a I don't know a positive guy dare you said good guy. Good guy. Yeah. I hope I hope all win. But especially hope Michigan state of Virginia win because I want the big ten to win. And I also want to be on the float why don't keep saying there's going to be a float. There's not going to be a floor. I feel like there's gonna be a like Virginia wins the title. They're just going to be some float like it's like it's homecoming in the mid west, and you're building floats. And and I'm gonna be on the float waving. I don't know. Why sound like your sister Jean thing? I don't know why this fantasy mind but not good for Virginia. All right. We'll be back later in the week probably Thursday. I believe once we once we get to Minnesota check that out. Thanks for listening. So you get.

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Insult To Injury

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Insult To Injury

"Breath. This is the to me never forget where you come from Jean. This has been a remarkable year from where it ended last year for their first championship. The reason for going to college is to prepare yourself for the day. You can't play football a hundred thirty five players coming out of school. Do not have their degrees yet again, another lead turning the dust the alliance gonna cover guys insurance. They're going to have to answer a lot of questions. Once you've sees treat your perception of any sporting event. Get this good. From the outside the lines. I'm putting today we've got Nike making headlines for reasons that have nothing to do with sneakers. A personal look at the now defunct football side of the af. And a baseball in verse three this spark a different discussion surrounding hardball today. I our big story. It's not quite worst to first. But if regina's men's basketball team manages to go from becoming the first ever one seed to fall to a sixteen seed in the NCAA tournament to national champions. It'll be a redemption story for UVA head coach Tony Bennett the likes of which we've never seen at this level. They got past Auburn in the final four in a nail biter that featured the first of two controversial calls from the weekend is really grateful and thankful. You know heard about a lot we knew that. And as I mentioned that I feel like I repeat myself too much in a way, it's a painful gift like it. It did draws near to each other. As a team, they could help us as coaches, I think it helped the players on the court and helped us in the other areas that you know, rely on things that were significant on the other side of the ball. Texas Tech's Chris beard, the twenty nineteen AP national coach of the year has taken an unlikely group all the way to the brink of title, they outlasted Tom Izzo and the Michigan state Spartans to create a first time national championship match-up for both teams tonight. Think just a couple of years ago. People would hammer us and recruiting talk about don't go play forbidding, those guys it's like positional as basketball, then all of a sudden, Golden State wins a couple of championships and positions basketball becomes the hot thing. So now, all of a sudden, we're cool. Again. Why are we bring both coaches because frankly, neither one of these teams has what we call stars. The Cavaliers cow guy is a former Mr. basketball from Indiana and a nice kid for sure and the red raiders Brandon Francis from the Dominican Republic is a great story. Absolutely. But in a posed I on Williamson world the ball will be tipped by two teams. That are just playing good at basketball. Even if not flashy. We bring in ESPN college basketball analyst, Jay Williams to break down. Jay, let me ask you about that very point starpower. I know it's something that's easy to just sort of refer to and talk about what do you think that how do you think that affects this game from wash ability standpoint, the general public? Well, these are two of the best teams in nation. I don't I don't think best team translates to transcendent player Zion. Williamson is a transcendent player. You still have to lottery picks on the floor. When you look at Jarrett Kover from Texas Tech. And then the Andre hunter who's a position player for UVA. But it is interesting no claim because what happens with this game. Is that these are two great defensive teams. But with the one and done rule being about to change in two thousand and twenty two with NBA pouring warm morning into the G league. Not being an alternative for other players. This could be a common occurrence or norm for college basketball years to come where you won't get the prolific stars of the game that really give it national appeal outside the college basketball fan, you'll get more of the college basketball fans dream if they wanna see the best team. But that doesn't mean the most sexy game. So what you're saying is that there's an appeal to the purest if you will for college basketball. And this mess up tonight. Yes. Oh, very well. I wanna get Virginia because Tony Bennett story in the where where this team has come from. And where they've gone you obviously played at a high level in college. What do you think about the mentality? The mental fortitude of the Cavaliers to be able to make it all the way back from that loss UNBC last year in the first round. I love a man, you know, it's like, my it's my scar on my left likely. So I got to accident two thousand and three and every morning that I wake up I have a little bit of pain, and I have to look out in my leg. And it helps me remember what I was giving from that experience. It helps me jump back into that moment. Say I have to make the best out of what today has to offer. Because who knows what life can bring your way. People can't understand why Tony Bennett or other teammates when you via the talk about this experience all the time. It's their why it's their best motivating factor. It's the one thing that pushes them. It's the best gift. They can never ask for even after they get to the championship game. He's still talking about them losing to sixteen seed and also I call them McDonald's all American game. So I've been covering cow guy for a long time. He suffered from executive this past summer. I watched him get death threats from people because they lost to a sixteen seed. I watched people Josh and clown them all the time on social media. The fact that he uses that even the kit from you and be. See that kid. I forget exactly as name that the point guard they tried to invite him to do game. And the guy even tweeted to them invite him to do game. Let them come. I wanna see his face. So the back that all these guys have used this opportunity to build off of it to lead them to the championship game. I commend them for that that takes pure strength on the other side of the ball. We've got 'cause beard and the Texas Tech red raiders spirit is become sort of a personality, you know, on the internet for those who didn't know tell people about what a little bit about what this team is a makeup standpoint that they might not otherwise know if they're seeing them tonight for the first time. Man. Chris beard is a salt of the earth kind of guy. Right humbling beginnings in his process to get to where he's at now not having scholarships early on in his career and now being at Texas Tech and having a ton of transfers came into the school from muni to to Rowen's from Saint John's he's gotten these guys to buy into something bigger than themselves. Jerick over to the last year you had to guy Zaire Smith leap from his team last year. And nobody even pick them to win the big twelve they end up doing that. This team has underrated chip on their shoulder. Their coach epitomizes that the big question will be if he wins the championship with Texas Tech. He's gonna get a lot of big time offers from other schools, so we got asked this question. They on game day, Texas Tech here to stay and you're like well, hold on a second to ask Chris beard is here to stay. I one word is Jay, what do you think about the fact that Nike says it looking into the fact it's Williamson we gotta get paid. Let's play it properly. One word. I can't give you one more. And this is going on for a long time, man. This is nothing new. This is nothing new from coaches being paid by agents to Nike putting other play players on their parents on payroll. I do know one thing this is just an in defense of his parents, this isn't allegation. So if it was proven then follow through on it. Let it be proven. It's proven. Then we have a further conversation about all, right? He's williams. College basketball analyst, thank J. Basically, keeping our spotlight on matters, NCA and amateurism related Alabama head football coach Nick Sabin had quite a bit to say Saturday about players leaving college early for the NFL draft happening later this month in Nashville now, we have guys that have no draft grade. Seventh round grades free agent great fifth round grades that are going out for the draft. And you know, the person that loses in that is the player while he's right on one front. This situation doesn't exist in a vacuum for many players pipe dream of football glory, isn't why they're leaving campus. It's paychecks the chance to get paid for something. Anything is worth the risk. You can always go back to school. But it doesn't mean that they aren't getting bad football or even life advice. It's the culture, and it's the trend and actually changed how talked recruits now, you know, I tell every recruit that I talked to the reason that you're going to college is. Is to prepare yourself for the day. You can't play football. Meanwhile, on the basketball side, one of the top players in the country. Sabrina UNESCO has decided to go back to Oregon to play her senior year when she likely would have been the top pick in the WNBA draft. Oh, we really believe that staying in school is the best decision for most players above the opportunity to get paid. Let's bring in the SEC network Paul finebaum and ESPN's today to discuss Paul off the rip you are close to save in. This is what you deal with every single program on your radio show, all these players who nobody's ever heard of trying to come out. What did you think about savings comments just in Joan personal? I'm a huge fan of his. But I use had to choke when we're not when I saw that Saturday. But first of all if there's a coach in America that can afford to lose more players than the Nick Sabin. Please show me who that is. I mean, it's a talent of riches. They're put more players in the NFL than than anyone. And when I heard him say, I'm having all. Ter- my my approach recruiting choke for the second time because you go to Alabama to play for Nick Sabin into be part of a championship. And I'm sure somewhere in there, you find out what your major is probably not immediately. But, but that's a crock, and I found this especially interesting that Nick Sabin decides to go with this after losing by twenty eight points in the national championship game that is a pattern that I've seen saving us in years past when that rare occurrence that he loses a game. He finds some way to change the narrative while you does any validity to the notion that guys come out and forget about Alabama other schools that have no business even trying this and end up in that wasteland between league and college. Absolutely. There's a lot of a liberty to that. And the numbers will support that. I just found the fact that saving is so upset about it to be the the part that that got my attention the most, and I think that's getting all of our attention. Listen, everyone of these players has some sort. Evaluation. And then they make the choice. You can't blame the the NFL then it's not a perfect system. And they're not getting the absolute grades. But they have some basic idea of where they're going to end up, and it's their choice. It's not mine. It's not yours and they're taking the risk. And the reason you said at the beginning they're taking that risk because they're ready to go. Try something else. They're ready to go try to make money and support their families. Get get get a better future for themselves. This is a lot bigger however than the Nick Sabin today. I want to switch gears to you the situation with Sabrina UNESCO is very different. She would becoming out at possibly being the top pick in the WNBA drafts mentioned, but she's going back to Oregon. I understand the national title is riskier you were topic in the WNBA, Jeff, how do you feel about all this that are you surprised by her decision and that peace with Sabrina decision? You know, being a Stanford grad, I'm really sad because she came back. And now they're probably number one in the preseason. But she made the right decision for herself. Because if you think about it the. MBA will always be there for her. She's a sure bet talent. Now the question is will she still be number one next year? Someone can emerge in the scene and go number one. But I think the bigger idea here for Sabrina is the fact that she wants to compete. I played in three final fours. She played in one. You get a taste of it. You want to win a national championship? Again. The WNBA I'm gonna just try to keep a one hundred the money is not the similar transitioning from men's college basketball to the NBA as it is women's college basketball into the WB. So that money is not necessarily big incentive or big motivator for her which means get get a shot at winning a national championship. Go back for your senior year and the difference. Here is the WNBA players. If you want to submit the draft, you go after you junior year, most people think why not just stay for my senior year. Get my degree be a little bit more mature get my skills going. Maybe win a national championship Sabrina thinking and then go to the WB where obviously she'll have a spot. Do you think this affects the way people view college basketball versus WNBA? Know your stance on the players association gets too much about that. But how do you think this affects the perception of the game? If the best players aren't even trying to pro in the league that we have domestically. She definitely wants to go pro. She just saying I wanna spend my four years and get those experiences in college. I and we have no problem with that as w gay players because the league is extremely healthy twelve teams twelve players per team one hundred and forty four players if Sabrina doesn't wanna play guess what there's going to be another great player in the WNBA that has a spot. And that's that's for the benefit of the league. Right. So the WB is great. It's an fantastic spot. If you look at our ratings from the finals of pass years our game is growing as the vice president of the w we recognize all these key metrics, so the WBZ unhealthy place, and I think Sabrina going back makes college basketball hoping place. So it's win win for everybody. Paul. I'm message you talked to a lot of fans of a lot of these kids in a lot of these sort of networks of people who exist around these schools, the real life element. Here is very serious. A lot of these guys washout and end up in towns that are just like us. Fusco who's because they can't get much further than that. After they've gotten the college. I mean, how much how do you feel about the way that this is going to end up for a lot of these kids you talk about on Saturdays. But then you never hear about for the rest of your life, very sad, especially when they give up the opportunity that we just heard about, but but again, they are taking a risk and they're trying to make something out of themselves. We had a player last year in basketball, Texas, a and then that came out early. He got nowhere. He ended up not even deciding to play in Julie, Gordon, Europe, if he'd stayed he would have gone down, maybe one of the greatest players net schools history. But I think everyone watches the same thing that we do here. They watch television. They all think they're better than they really are. So when that opportunity comes they grab it, and sadly, and we could fill up hours upon hours on this program and others most of the stories don't turn out very well today. Quickly in basketball. You know, you see these options you cover the NBA guys have different choices. They can go overseas. They can go. Elsewhere. It's not the same in football. What do you? Think about that on this from a football standpoint from what you've seen versus basketball. Yeah. I think with basketball, and it's sort of trickling down to football. There's a lot of guests men. Yes. Women out there that are telling the players exactly what they wanna hear. Which is why I think feedback is an information is extremely key. The fact that the NCAA men's players can go to the combine get direct sources saying, hey, we think you're going to be a first round pick a second round pick. Maybe you're not going to be drafted that person. Also has the opportunity to take their name out of the pot and go back to school. That's the best case scenario for all athletes out there, all thank you very much. Got coming up. The af is done with football. But the pain of it's demise is not going away for many. We talked to Johnny Paul next who's all too. Well, those all too well with that feels like. Geico presents yet another voicemail from your roommate? About the kitchen turns out when there's a grease fire. You're not supposed to throw water on it wouldn't own right anyways. The fire department is here, and it's totally cool. Can you call back when you get a chance? The co insurance agency could help keep your personal property protected. Like if danger is your roommates middle name. Visit Geico dot com to see how easy it is to switch and save on renter's insurance in our Vive. La today. Once always you'd that's the rallying cry the former Salt Lake stallions and university of Utah linebacker, Johnny Paul has heard ever since he broke his arm and what turned out to be the final game of the af season last week. We heard horror stories of players getting stuck with hotel bills and having to pay for their own plane tickets home and ignominious end to league that was looking to become a mental stage for the NFL. Now, Paul is drawing on the community to help him out. Now that he's got nowhere to play in an arm to help heal. We we bring him in now to talk about the next steps Yanni, it looks as if your arm is still a little bit hurt obviously this link, and you just take us through the steps of what happened for them moment. You realize you were injured to where we are. Now. Doing Saturday game. I'm not trying to break it with pass. And at a great safety wave what way opposed to be at come across and the hit and on got between the hit. I remember when it happened. My arm to win jello and off into the. Garages new day was done for for the season. So I would just being very optimistic. You know, like always next season. My automated goal is to go to the NFL to get film to stay healthy that thrive in into and his new league. I have surgery on Sunday morning. And I'm at the my surgery we had a meeting on Monday play was often players off on Monday and Tuesday another meeting where they discussed the. And operated to a L, and they they were going to keep us focused. I mean, keep us focused on what's what what we did what, you know, big good. It came from the league to stay out to mystic and you start asking about a medical bills start asking about hotel bills on David handle ask for us. So. Leading out. I talk to train is in on it. They will do the best to help me. But it was kinda laid off too and the the inoperational. So hey, I am stuck with. On that got twenty screws in it three plates and on what to do next. I got a place to stay and unluckily Riley one of my good friends play at university of Utah house I here and a couple of plays way with a crash over his house to we figure out next move. Did you ever expect not to be in this kind of position? But you said you went from being so hopeful you trying to get back to the league trying to get some film. What what was going through your mind when you end up on an injury. You got on your college field at a Buddy's house with that injury. What were you thinking at that point? It's not just a football career, which a in general. To tell you. Just blank right now. I'm just we just shot. We put so much into the season as a player coaches, China style, work overtime to keep us healthy. And just a just a Wicca one days all over and you put so much into it, which is smack an office. Have you heard from the af all regarding doctors or anything cereal these horror stories about them, basically just disappeared? All the players. Have you had any official communication with the football side of the league since this happened about a couple of days ago. And for me that you know, they working on things and everything will be okay. And I'm still waiting for a callback to come. I found is everything. So I just wanna say optimistic and just. Figure out when nex while. So you have heard from the league if you could just tell me quickly little bit something about the Utah community. That's come together. I see they're trying to raise money for you. Obviously, that's your college family. What's that been like in terms of how you felt from getting getting back from the people that she wants play. I say thank you to Utah community. They saw Twitter. We know what was going on and about how players for the medical Smith. When Dan about being you want? Always you were you talking Mindy Riley behind me, they came back and miss. The gofundme pays up to help me out with my medical bills things, you know, forever grateful. I'm still trying to figure out. How can I do some community to show my gratitude in? Appreciation listen real root for ya. That's tough situation. I'm sure the Utah, you community and the rest of your football family's gonna be behind you as well. Johnny paul. Thank you. Thank you coming up forty five years ago today history was made in major league baseball. But that anniversaries let us do a different discussion. Not be is next kiddos. Tonight on sportscenter at six eastern with Kevin Gandhi and Keith Olbermann college game days must see matchups in tonight's title game between Texas Tech in Virginia. And today's after noon game market turning point for the cubs. 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03/31: That was probably the best Elite Eight in NCAA Tournament history, and it includes the end of Zion Williamson's Duke career

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03/31: That was probably the best Elite Eight in NCAA Tournament history, and it includes the end of Zion Williamson's Duke career

"Sunday, March thirty first two thousand nineteen welcome back to the island college basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss Campbell fighting and leaky black Matt norlander is here with me. The final four is set. The remaining teams are Michigan state, Texas Tech Virginia. Ann Arbor techs Technomic are in the final four for the first time in school history. Crispier Bruce Pearl and Tony Bennett in the final four for the first time as coaches this'll be Tom Izzo eight final four in may the elite eight was incredible for genius overtime win. Over Purdue was an all time. Auburn OT win over Kentucky was loads of fun. What Texas Tech did too? After doing something similar to Michigan was super impressive. Michigan state Duke decided in the final seconds four games decided by six or fewer points by a total of just eighteen points. It's the lowest margin of victory for four elite eight games and NCAA tournament history. Two of the games window OT all four were one possession games in the final minute. Norlander? I want to talk about how each team got here momentarily. But let's start with your thoughts on the now set two thousand nineteen final four it's one number one seat number two seat number three seed and number five seed, it's three conference champions one conference tournament champion. It's Auburn for Jin Virginia. I national semifinal Saturday six oh, nine eastern, Texas, Tech, Michigan state and the second national semifinal Saturday around eight forty nine eastern d love this like this or hate this. You'll never find me complain about a final four because we are wired differently parish in this regard. I like diversity with my national semifinals. I like unexpected teams. I like matchups that change up things just as much as I liked traditional programs in powers being there. I can find something interesting about every single final four every single year in light of what we saw here on Sunday. And the two powers the two blue bloods, not making it on through Kentucky failing and Duke failing. There is some early. Lamenting over the relative lack of sizzle in the final four. I acknowledged. That's undeniable the case, but I think it's awesome. That we have an SEC team for the second time in three years breaking on through in a surprising way without Carolina two years ago. Now, it's Auburn and Michigan state is no surprise to me tomorrow in that second, but I did pick Michigan state to beat Duke on selection Sunday. So so there we go. The field is enticing an interesting veteran-laden. There isn't a one one in done player. That's in this final four that is not unprecedented. We've had a couple of times since the age minimum bumped from eighteen to nineteen at the NBA level. But that's something you're going to hear about your also gonna hear a lot about because of that. How old these teams are? I think that's also a storyline. But I don't think that's exclusive to this year's college basketball season. Do could have came really really close to winning. And that storyline wouldn't be valid and wouldn't exist. If do could broke through, but it didn't. But they're all really tough teams as well. Like these teams. I I think the games have very good chances of being close because of. D- do darn afraid to play physical and in in very different reasons all four the although they're tough physical. I think that they're their makeup, respectively different. So I enjoy this final four I enjoyed because almost no one. I mean, I think I saw CBS sports tweet out that zero point four point zero four percent of all brackets had this final four CBS sports. So certainly some unexpected stuff. And by the way, you get to coaches getting there for the first time, no three sorry Bennett beard Pearl, and Bruce, and then Thomas the other end of the scale he was eighth. So I like it. My favorite part. Is you get three coaches there for the first time because we talked about this on CBS sports network, right or wrong fairly or unfairly in it might be on Seir coaches get judged by whether they're or get labeled by whether their final four coach or they're not a final four coach. And when you never made it, especially when you're otherwise super successful that becomes a part of your resume like, oh, yeah. But he never went to a final four, and I don't think anybody's had to hear that more often lately than Tony Bennett. Like, this isn't really something people say about crispier, and I don't think it was a weight around the neck of Bruce Pearl. But certainly with Tony Bennett. Yeah. But never been to a final four was a part of his story. And now, it's not you know, he will forever. Be a final four coach. You'll never have. Nobody will ever be able to say. Yeah. But can you can you play that style and get a final four? Yeah. But can Tony Bennett ever? Actually breakthrough silver Mark. Few and Gonzaga got there for the first time it's a little bit. Like when John Kerry was first national championship, these big things people say about certain coaches. Yeah. But John's never won the big game. We'll anyone it. So you can't say that anymore. Maybe now the conversation is can't win it twice. But he did it once now Tony has been to the final four crispier incredibly gets there as well. Bruce Pearl after losing to Mckee in the Sweet Sixteen as a underdog to a conference rival. He punches his ticket to get over there for the first time in school history. So I love that. But undeniably when you contrast this with the final four, we could've very reasonably had it is it as you put it lacks sizzle in. I really do think is television ratings killer. I mean, we've got for Jinyan Michigan state Texas economic in the final four, and by the way, all these things are good like they were all top thirteen. It can palm win this tournament. Started for Jinya. Michigan state and Texas Tech all one regular-season power conference titles and Michigan state won its conference tournament title was well and Auburn won the tournament title. So everyone of these teams is good. It shouldn't be that surprising. But when you realize we could have had a final four of Duke, Gonzaga, either UNC or Kentucky to go with for Jinya. I mean, that's the difference between a final four that like set ratings records and a final four that is. Yes, still interesting. But not nearly as interesting as what we were very close to having also worked noting. In many lottery picks in this thing. De'andre hunter jerk Kover. But is there another lottery pick in the final four? So we're lacking the star power were lacking. You know, a Duke a Carolina a Kentucky. And it'll still be interesting like you said, their storylines that still exist. I think Texas Tech might beat the best or maybe Bruce Pearl considering you know, some people a year ago didn't even know if he's going to coach at Auburn this season, obviously for Jinya being upset last year punching through to the final four this season. Great stories, but not nearly the final four that. I'll just say. I bet television executives would have preferred. Yeah. That's. Undeniable. But I do think that we are going to have three games left on the on the docket. Not knowing who will get in the title game. I think the we'll have good elite carryover now Virginia's what a five to six point favorite depending on where you can get them in the aftermath of this here on Sunday night that they will be the bigger favourite than Michigan state heading into into Saturday's national semifinals. But I think one of those games is going to be is going to be close. Both have a good chance of being close. But Michigan state Texas Tech on paper sets up the closer one. So what I'm getting at here is even though we are lacking. What would have been also, by the way, a huge media contingent on the ground there. You lose the Japanese media, which is just ridiculous with with Rui Hodge Murray, Gonzaga, they won't be there. You have to figure. Maybe ten to fifteen percent of folk in the media that would have gone because of Duke enzyme Williamson will now not be there, and then Kentucky has the largest beat in the country. So they're out as well. So a little less media clutter there as well from an on the ground perspective. But I think we've got a good chance of having some competitive games, Minneapolis, Kim palm has it. Michigan state sixty seven Texas. No. Yeah. Michigan state sixty seven Texas Tech sixty six that's the projected score to that semifinal. It's got it projected for Jinya seventy Auburn sixty four that that national semifinal. So if the favorites win the game, we will have a national championship game between for Jinya and Michigan state, and that is one current hall of fame coat against a guy who was almost certainly going to be a nascent memorial hall of fame coach as well. We've got plenty of time this week to get into those national semifinals. So I want to spend most of this podcast. Looking back on what was an incredible elite eight we're gonna do that momentarily. But first check this up. We have this is Brian Campbell. The CBS sports state of combat podcast reminding you to get some of this. 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The masters coming up and the only place that you want to be to get ready for the masters from all the different angles is here on the first podcast called the the narratives the story lines the picks, we're going to have it all we are chip in as you know, nothing in sports excites me more than masters week my favorite week of the year. I started writing about this year's masters back in January, and you're right about the story lines. I mean, Dustin Johnson at the top of the sport to Tiger Woods and his second master's back. I'm excited about every storyline. You got Amador's. You got former champs? It should be a lot of fun to cover the masters all the fantasy picks you need, a we are gonna have it for you. So make sure that you were subscribed now to the first cut podcast. You can find it wherever you get your podcast and now on Spotify. So the game of the week. And I think was the elite game in the south regional it was for Jinya. Purdue Carson words makes ten three pointers in the game finishes with forty two points. Purdue was up three in the final seconds. Tiger Rome at the free throw line makes the first misses second. But not intentionally. He said later said he just short armed Mamadee Akita slaps it into the back court key Clark, chases it down and with three seconds left. If you pause it. He is holding the ball at the opposite three point line. And what most people will do in that situation is dribble dribble. Shoot half court. He does not go in your season is over producing the final four instead brilliantly. He recognizes that he's got time to get the ball to Deke Tei. So he throws what is basically three quarters court pass perfectly de Akita knocks down a shot at the buzzer forces over. Overtime and then for Jinnah wins. When Carson awards commits a turnover in the final seconds norlander. You were in the building for that one. I was in a hotel room here in New York City for that one. I I can't remember the last time I had that much on watching a basketball game. Because it wasn't just a close game. In an intense game. A high stakes game. It was big time shot big-time shot one after another after another the Carson Edwards performance was incredible. The way for Jinnah was able to get it to the extra period. Insane. You were in the building. What was it like there? Perish. I don't know where to start. What was it like there? It was an amazing environment Purdue had about eight to ninety percent of the fans and the building the shot making was absurd. Carson Edwards had forty two. No other Purdue player had more than seven which is wild. Because like Ryan Klein, I think at the first basket of the game for produce. And then he missed like there's so many elements to this game. The he missed a free throw that kept the door open for Virginia. And then the the foul shots Arom. Mrs. It's a weird bounced Lia ki Tae just barely gets it. It's a weird tap all the way to the back Clark recognizing and by the way, talked to Kyle after for CBS sports HQ guy said he you know in in in the win. He's terrific Moody's like I was I was I was frustrated angry in that moment because I was I was open right there. And he didn't pass me. The ball gets it to say. Who? So that was Clark's only assistant second half dictate only made field goal. The second half. I do win those moments happened in your in the building it is indescribable like literally got goosebumps. Just unreal. An end this by the way, it comes after Carson Edwards out of his mind. He averaged thirty four point eight points in the tournament had the most prolific three point shooting performance in instantly terminal history. Think it's twenty eight GP. Let me check their eight and four games the twentieth. So no one had ever made twenty tournament alone. He didn't four games just outrageous. And he he kept her doing it these swing why this was such an amazing game. This is the second best game I've ever covered. I would still put Carolina Villanova one because it's title game. You get the buzzer beater in that it was close. You had the swing with Marcus pays before that. But it's close because you know, what this one there was it was like from the tip as soon as Klein hit that first three. And I think guy return on one of the next two possessions. Start the game. Even though produced a ten point lead at one point. And the Virginia was kinda trying to massage that six to eight point lead in the second half. It just always felt like it was within three to five points, costly, if not if it wasn't if it wasn't tied as all this happening now kind of trying to keep an eye on painter and Bennett and just so cool. I mean GP I'm talking we are having these absurd. Three pointers go down like Drome had one from from real Kyle guys twists ankle near the end of the first half. You think this isn't good? No, not only does he return. He then finally starts being able to play like the guy. He's been for most of his career and snaps. His his incidentally tournament three point struggles. Which we mentioned on the previous podcast in the middle of this trade these haymakers painter Bennett. They're just calm, the calm the whole way. Although Bennett did saying I didn't see this. Because I I would I've been looking at this moment. But when Carson hit the tenth his tenth tenth perish, it ten three pointer. The one that banked in which was right in front of me. And I just I had Mike decor to my left and Dan O'neil impact forty and I just stared at them. I just give them a hard stars. Like, this is stupid. What's going on? Right now Bennett said that he tore his play card in half. Because it was just it was it was unreal. As the game of the tournament. One of the best games Dermot history. I don't know where falls. But if if I had the the time in means, I have to believe, it's it's like top six or seven I think and forty was at the Kentucky Duke game in ninety two. That's still the best elite game ever. And it is arguably the best tournament game ever that one's better because it has the buzzer beater. It has Leitner one of college players ever and has dude versus Kentucky that one still beats this one. But. If you really go back and watch that overtime ended up as a five point of rental. But Carson has got the ball with a chance to win a tie game with less than ten seconds to go, and then gives tries to digit decline. That's you hate it. When you get an epic game and ends like that. But unlike that it did I mean, I could go on for forty minutes about this. But and we'll get to my running with the Bennett family in a second. But. That's that's my quick overview. I just I I didn't think that the Purdue Tennessee game could be talked which by the way is like a top five game. I've ever been to in covered and this one easily topped it. Louisville was very kind to me very kind of everyone that was able to see those games in person because even though Virginia organ wasn't that appealing. It was still close. Like it was in doubt late so good job on the derby city for coming through with three huge games for Jinya wins the game. I still think Carson Edward was the story. I mean, I mean first off to forty two point games in the NCAA tournament as you pointed out every thirty four point eight points in the four games. And it got to a point the second half where he was just he was just going to. He was going to win the game or lose the game. But it was he was going to be the one responsible for it. Just pulling for anywhere. And like, you know, he may ten three pointers, and it's amazing on that stage for a player to be able to knock down ten three pointers in school, forty two points against anybody. But to do it against Virginia. I mean a team that was by the way number one in opponents three point Phil percentage heading into the game. They dropped three after Carson. So they're now at twenty eight point seven percent, but still Purdue only allows opponents to shoot twenty eight point seven percent from three point line. They guard that line year in year out as well as if not better than anybody else in the country and that to Carson Edward put forty two on that to Carson Edwards made ten three pointers on. And so just like I said, I love it. When college basketball on big stages has games like that. Because it draws in people who otherwise wouldn't care it felt like on Saturday night at least on Twitter. The only thing anybody was doing was watching Carson Edwards try to beat Virginia. And then it goes to overtime just an amazing game. And you happy for Tony Phil sick from that. I mean, my God, you're up three in the final six seconds. And then you're up to and key Clark's got the ball seventy feet from the basket with three seconds ago. You're supposed to win that. Game. And you know, we've gone through the play just amazing stuff all around fun game. Let's get to it. Why Tony Bennett push like that? That was. Excellent. Well, I'm surprised you said that because you know, what when I watched when I went back and watch the video which I did not know was I didn't think it was thought that the TV was done. But I guess they keep the cameras rolling for like the montage and stuff. So then I start getting text from a few coaches being like, I think I saw you on television get shot by Tony Bennett. I was like oh gosh. So yes, I when I watched the video it doesn't actually look, but Tony gave me like a real shove a happy show. But he it was me and another reporter don't know the gentleman's name who was standing there. But so the context of all this is gay men's everyone's on the floor. Tony Bennett gets it done. And I I knew that I was going to write about Tony Bennett makings for final four relationship with his father if they won because I almost went the story three years ago, and they blew it against Syracuse in Chicago. And dick Bennett has been documented that you know, he he has had like serious issues with going to games to the point like he can't handle it. He's acted inappropriately with with other people with strangers of opposing fans, and he's gotten better at it in the past year. Although I think I want to say that the organ game in this game of the only two games he went to the season. But for reasons you can read about in the story column feature that I wrote overnight on CBS sports dot com. He made he made sure that he was going to be there. And so when I saw dick Bennett after the Oregon when I went up to him. And I said he goes no interview, I said, I don't need you right now. If if Tony wins, though, let's just try and do something like you got it. So. So that's also playing in my mind is this game is going on. So I'm not I'm thinking, I'm thinking like, I I'm like, okay. You know, what I'm gonna have to keep putting this off until don't bet it's gonna make a final four eventually is going to happen too. Good not to but I'm fine with Carson versus going off. Like, he's just bunkers and then Virginia starts coming back. And I'm keeping eyes on dick Bennett on the opposite end of the floor. And he was pretty good. Although he he had a couple of moments where he was fired up going after the officials and then gay men's and I find him on the floor. And I give them a moment to kind of watch watch. Tony's it's speak on the podium, and we start talking Jeff Zell. Oh and a couple other writers getting real quick. And then everyone else kinda filters away as I was. I went Tony comes in. I was on my last question, and on my transcribed of my video, my audiotape Dick's finishing answering the question, and he goes in here he comes. And I didn't know what he was saying. I didn't it didn't register and then I can hear Tony Bennett's voice. But I don't see him. 'cause my back is to him and it's getting louder, and he goes get out the dang way, man. And he shoves me and the other reporter embraces father, really cool kind of surreal. Awesome moment that couple of people were like this better wind up in one shining moment, which would be amazing. I don't think that is. I don't think that it will. But but yes, that is that is why that happened and wound up running about dick Bennett. Tony Bennett finally breaking through nineteen years apart. They become the second father. Do what I make a final four. The John Thompson jumped on from the third connection was the one to before this. And as many listeners probably aware of twenty minutes only, a coach be that just because his dad was a coach not just goes played for his dad, but it's because his dad asked him in the nineteen ninety nine two thousand season after Tony played pro in New Zealand played in the NBA and his playing days were behind him. He said, listen, I don't know how much longer I'm going to coach why don't you just come be a part of the team this year specifically for that for that tournament run? He didn't have a staff opening available. He was not making any money. He did it for his dad I met with Tony's wife earlier in the day before the game. She gave me a photo of him at that tournament. I think it was the first weekend because it was a mountain west side, they played it to mountain with schools. But anyway. When that was all happening laurel Bennett, his wife's told me that Tony was not into coaching at all it wasn't going to happen. And it was only because Wisconsin as an eight seed made the final four that year. So think about how unlikely that is. She said when they got to Indianapolis, which is where the final four was that season. That's when Tony was like, okay. Some like exchange in a hurry. Like, no, I want to do this final four. This is amazing. Are you kidding me? Look look at how incredible. This run has been. I wanna be a coach. And so maybe he winds up being coach, no matter what. But maybe not because he's been he's been pretty transparent about that. If Wisconsin just does what it's supposed to do and loses as an ACL before the final four who knows who's coaching Virginia. Who knows we're Tony Bennett is right now, but that connection with his dad nineteen years removed. They complete the circle in both beat Purdue, by the way as Wisconsin did in two thousand and Virginia. Does I thought that was just an awesome awesome story? I know you don't care, and I found it hilarious. But that like was like kind. Of inappropriate to show somebody that way. No, it was not. It was let them have their moment. I will know. Now, how dare you know? I actually I don't I don't even remotely care. Let them have the moment. 'cause he was also looking for his dad and look he saw his dad was walking there. He's just shoved you out of the way like push you hard blocker charts GP. It was it was like, I think. I want to be very clear, I am not making a big deal out of this. I'm not going to open a radio show Tamar going. But did you see Tony Bennett shove that reporter like I thought it was the funniest thing? I've saw on Saturday night on Twitter. But like, I'll say this. He do that. He does that to a different dude. Like, it might not have been a different good smile. The way you smile that was like there's a way a walk around somebody to hug your father. You don't have to like push somebody out of the way as if they don't belong there. It was just kind of it was hilarious. But also kind of weird I got admit I didn't think about it like that at all. But. I see I do see where you're coming from afterward. When I interviewed Tony on HQ. He did apologize. And he also said they didn't catch it on TV today. I was like meth actually did. Oh, man. So he like he had like a little bit of remorse. I don't I thought it. I thought it was awesome. That was one of the highlights of my tournament so far. He couldn't mean that was that was a cool little deal there. But one more real quick before. We you're now forever. The guy at the tournament who has Gusta sticker and it got pushed by Tony Bennett. Who you are. That's your legacy. I want that is my brand I'm steering right into it unquestionably. I'm not I'm not even a little bit. The photos of Bennett on the on the ladder after he cut the net. Like, and I and I say this like endearingly like he looks like a frigging madman. But that that he wanted this badly. He's got the scissors in one hand the net and the other he's got this like toothy. Roar about him. He was completely exalted. It was it was a really cool moment. And you know, gotta figure that deep down probably those players in that staff that it was done. I mean, they you stimulate out that ending GP one hundred times and really probably like ninety seven ninety eight percent of the time. Feels like they're gonna lose. But it didn't happen that way. They wind up getting the win. Tony Bennett moves on. And now painter I think in even in the loss that painter will just be I think more well regarded in terms of where he stands in the overall. Coaching landscape and would be on the shortlist of best coaches have made a final four I think that's one of the upshots of that defeat. The photos of Tony on that ladder are terrific. And it looked like we see coaches in that moment every year four of them right to cut nets on their way to the final four, and they usually look happy filled with joy, Tony obviously looked that way too. But that screamed with this is closed in his hands in the air. It almost looked like a guy who recognized. I don't have to carry that around with me any more, and I got good life balance. And you know, he he has he puts a lot of his faith really matters to him. His family really matters to him. Not all coaches have have proper perspective on life. Not all radio podcast, host television analysts slashed writers have proper perspective either. So I'm like not talking badly about coaches anymore that I'm talking about people, but not all coaches had proper perspective proper balance by all accounts. Tony does. So I don't know that he needed that to to to get through life. But he did look like a guy who felt relieved you know, that he doesn't have to carry that around anymore. I mean, that's the way I interpreted at least I think that's I think that's fairly accurate. And and it's it's not done. Now breaks through the final four. And we'll obviously it's this on the next podcast. But for Judas the favorite too. In the national title and the final four broke it broke kindly for them. So notice gushing for another time, but just an awesome awesome seen in Louisville. It would be a miracle. If we got a better game in Minneapolis than what we saw there on Saturday night and cow guy had a great quote act word. He said we're making history we made bad history last year. And right now, we're making great history. And if dinner does go on to win two more what an amazing story to go from the first one seed avenues to sixteen to a national champion inside of a year or roughly around a year from one year to the next would be pretty incredible. So for Jinya advances to the final four and the Cavaliers are gonna play Auburn. And that's because Auburn beat Kentucky seventy seven seventy one on Sunday afternoon Kentucky by eleven in the first half. But Auburn battle back tied it in the final seconds of regulation and horse Spencer decides to launch a three pointer at the and this is like a ROY. Rush. Like, hey, he just happened to be the guy with the ball. So he's got throw it at the rim like dosier for the championship. It was just like DOJ for the championship. Although you do wonder if Memphis would have had key Clark to make a better decision than Robert dosier perhaps that game goes differently. Hor Spencer has had the ball and he had a teammate to his left wide open. And yet even though he only took three three pointers attempted three and its first three years of college and was three of seventeen this season from beyond the art, which means he's three of twenty four years of college basketball from. He still just launched it. Right. And he was trying to be an all time, incidentally, tournament hero unsurprisingly that ball did not go in. But we went so we went to overtime, and then Auburn ends up winning it. I think Jared Harper and Bryce Brown combined for fifty points in Auburn wins despite shooting just thirty point four percent from three point range. They only had seven makes which surprised me. If you like I did talk about this before the game. We did a two hour show on CBS sports network. And I said the scary thing about Auburn. It's nothing unique to me. I think this is pretty obvious. The scary thing about Auburn is about fifty percent of the Togo tents are gonna come from beyond the arc and if they get hot like they did against North Carolina. Then I don't care if to monkeys playing or not they can beat you. But I thought they'd have to take thirty and make twelve or thirteen fourteen. Instead, they shut thirty point four percent only made seven and they still beat Kentucky. Which means that is I want to be exactly right on it. I think it's four straight years. Maybe five that Kentucky. Now has not been in the final four now Kentucky or because they made it in fifteen. Okay. So they make it in fifteen so sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen four straight years Kentucky has not been to the final four. And I don't want to turn this into a conversation about whether John Carroll Perry's maximizing his potential, John it's been two four final fours in ten years at Kentucky. I believe that two more twice as many as anybody else in the same span. Like, I'm sorry didn't have more national championships. I'm sorry that he blew a double digit lead in this one. But the guy still doing an amazing job all things considered. And so I think that conversations just kind of a stupid conversation, but they were favorites against shorthanded Auburn team today team already beaten twice in the regular season. And they could not get the job done. So just your thoughts on. What we watch between Auburn. And I think so I so I would rank the delete games as. For do in Virginia's one Duke, Michigan say to a sink in Texas Tech three. And then Kentucky four and the fact that that's four is absurd. Fourth only because Kentucky it lacks some shot making it needed. It did. Hey, listen, the game to overtime. But Auburn wasn't great from three. It was. It was entertaining. But I think it was the lease. Well, played game of the four. And that's why I rank this fourth and that being said, it was still awesome. Like it was a great game. Auburn moves on also, by the way, it was a game where I did not think Kentucky was going to lose until maybe a minute ago and overtime. I just thought like Auburn really going to do this can I picture Auburn winning this game and making the final four under Bruce Pearl after people thought he would not even have his job a year ago after Auburn which has been treated kindly, actually like Purdue by Ken palm most of the season. But did not beat. A tear a high level Ken palm team until earlier this month, and yet they've been on this crazy hair. I mean, this is this is there a better team than this? But this is like VCU when it went to the final four in terms of like once it got into postseason play. What it did was not Representative of what it had done most of earlier in the season that VCU team. This Auburn team is guard oriented hot from three Sunday's result. Not included. And they do it without to mow KiKi. I can't believe it. I mean, I guess I can't. But I didn't give him almost much of a chance because they didn't have him Kentucky was built to be Auburn in this game. And it didn't. All I can say about the game is I'm happy that it was it was it was close Calgary to another lead eight great on Auburn. As certainly add something interesting for for the final four in that Barclays an analyst, and he went there. So who knows what who knows what kind of fun fun loving lunacy? That might bring their. I four final four in program history. Bruce, Pearl had some Tennessee teams that were better than this one. That did not make the final four in the my lasting GP. And I agree. We don't have to like, I'm not. I'm not banging on Cal not going to happen. He's great. I saw Jason list. We doubt this this on Twitter. He said Kentucky is averaged three point four four wins in the tournament when Calvin the coach and in that same span all number one seeds have ever two point nine seven number one seed. So if you're if you're going to try and make the argument that John cale Perry's underachieving, I just don't think hold much water. I mean, the final four appearances getting lead eight period, it's the high seeds year over year. We've talked about this plenty on podcast before over the years. And I understand losing to Auburn and playing the way that that that it did today was was frustrating and hangings wasn't good at all hero in the big picture was a was a good player but fell short in. Some regards. You wanted him to be a better than he wound up being I get that. But Kentucky also had obviously injury issues and all-told Cal defined job. It's going to have an awesome team again next year. And maybe the bracket will break right for them or the the how the ball around the right way for him there. But but yeah, I you're not gonna hear me say anything about about what caused on the Kentucky is doing just fine. So Auburn was a preseason top fifteen team returning lot of key pieces from a team that won a regular season SEC title last season. And you referenced this their resume was really lacking for much of the season on February fourth or the Mon morning February fifth. They had exactly one win over a top fifty Kim, pumpkin. And that was over Washington. Oh, Washington which Finn which finished forty eighth at can palm. And that was a home game. So they had done nothing. Notable on the road. Nothing. Notable on a neutral court and really not that much notable in. General they were two and four to start in the SEC. They ended up seven seven at one point in the SEC. But since February fourth so they go basically the first three months of the season. Beating not getting any really good wins. Again, one top fifty Kim win since then they've got eight more eight they have gotten wins over Florida. Mississippi State, Tennessee, Florida again to see again, Kansas North Carolina Kentucky unless there for a second. How many teams let me schools have beaten Kansas, North Carolina Kentucky, consecutively of games. I mean, that's blue blood with a hall of fame. Coach blue blood with a hall of fame coat blue blood with a hall of fame coach, Arizona ninety seven's. The only other one to do it. Trivia time trip asked them giving it to you consecutive games at didn't have consecutive. But just three blue bloods in the tournament and Zona did it and they by the way wound up winning the national title as a foresee that your you're correct. So now Auburn is on a twelve game winning streak and heading into a game against Virginia. And we got time the rest of this week to break these things down, but I will say where Auburn wants to try to beat you from is three point line. And again, really only Carson Edwards ever does arson ever. It's going to be sitting up for Bruce Pearl air GP. Piette it'd be advantageous. Bet. You Bruce wouldn't a veteran. Bruce, wouldn't turn it down. And so happy for Bruce to get his first trip to the final four. No, he's controversial slash divisive figure. But I've always liked the guy. And I think he's a you know, what he did it to see was remarkable what he's doing at Auburn. He took Tennessee to its first ever elite eight now he's taken Auburn to its first ever final four so good for him and all SEC battle in the mid west regional final Auburn wins. It again the play for Jinya in the final four. Now, let's go to the west regional because that's where Texas Tech on Saturday beacon zag, a seventy five sixty nine Gonzaga shot. Fifty three point two percent from the field on the season. Thirty six point five percent from three against Texas Tech, forty two point four percent from the failed. Just twenty six point nine percent from three they only scored sixty nine. It's it was only the four-time zagged were held the less than seventy this entire season. And now crispier he's got Texas Tech to its first final four in just his third year. And it's crazy because the guy inherited a good situation from from tubby Smith all things considered. But then in year two goes to the elite eight with a couple of guards who were freshmen sub one hundred high school prospects. I mean. You're not supposed to win a league. Like the big twelve with freshmen sub one hundred guards. And yet crispier was able to do it last season. He had Jarrett. Culver, of course, in the other one was air Smith there ends up being a one and done top sixteen pick after being a sub one hundred prospect. I believe that made him because I remember referencing this at the time the first ever one in done. No redshirt sub one hundred player sub one hundred high school prospect like it had never happened. And now his mate who was also a sub one hundred player who I saw somebody tweet this weekend. Like, Texas didn't even ever go see like shot. The smart never went to recruit. Gerry Cole for at all jet. Culver now going to be a top ten pick. Definitely lottery pick perhaps a top five pick after two years under crispier d-, and he was also a sub one hundred prospect. So like, I don't think. Just got lucky twice. I think he has developed those two players into stars. He has developed this team into a great team. They sit here now thirty and six big twelve regular season champs. I final four in school history. Despite losing five of the top seven off last season's team at any like he replaced losing five of the top seven scores off last season's team with Zion. Williamson and RJ Baird. And Cam reddish trae Jones like you had a McDonald's all American group. He's just done a hell of a job developing. I. Identifying players that will work for him developing them into something better. You hear this all the time that teams better than the? Its individual parts. And I don't think there's a better example in college basketball perhaps over several years, then better than the individual pieces than this Texas Tech team is. Yep. And you mentioned that it also means that Texas Tech is the only team that broke through to the final four that was facing that kind of roster turnover. But there were a lot of them in the elite eight I wrote about it with Purdue which lost four starters and came close but didn't break through. And then obviously do Kentucky given the way that they operate and with their recruiting and flipping one one players also lost that many starters an impact players. They also only made the elite eight Texas Tech breaks on through the first final four in program history. It's it's very impressive. It ends a Gonzaga run that. So now like, you know, the the twenty sixteen twenty seventeen Kazakh team we can say for sure that still the best team program history. I think this one is is the second best. And I wonder if the fact that didn't make a final four with this team if it might go on to be a bit underrated in years down the road. That was a really good game. A tough game a game that ended like Carson Edwards trying to get the ball. Ryan Klein ends in a little bit of a whimper. Josh perkins. Inadvertently I can't remember who is passing the ball. And I was watching the media room at the centre with you know, like one hundred people I can't remember it was trying to pass the ball in. There wasn't Moretti. Anyway, he he technical foul. And that you know, that takes a little of the air out of that ending tech sector sits big three's played the game that it wanted to play by the way. Given how good the other three games where by the way, if feels like game was a long ago than than even the producer genius game. But I just wanted to take a quick second here too. Had a really really good season came very close to the final four and only didn't get there because it bumped into an incredible coach the number one defense in America. So that was obviously number one versus number one offense defense out in that case, which isn't always the case. But it was there, and, you know, no shame on that team, which I expect even though it's gonna lose guys I expect it to be pretty pretty good again. It's going to be a recruit reload for for Mark view, the zags it would have been fun to get them back, but they don't break on through. And that was the first indication that we would not have. I guess it was Secondly the second indication Carolina loss before that in terms of one's breaking through. But yeah, you hit on so much of what I was gonna say with Texas Tech. I don't have too much to add. I think they have a real chance to win the national title. I think if people follow. Follow college basketball, college basketball, they're giving Texas shot, but for those that swoop into watch the tournament in aren't used to it the same way like if you don't watch a lot of college football, but you kind of pay attention once we get to like thanksgiving games or just hop in with the college football playoff and in a random year. Let's just say like the Queant would be lake. I mean, historically, honestly, like the equivalent might be something like. I don't know Oregon state football making the college football playoff something like that. Like instinctively you wouldn't give that kind of team much of a chance in your head to win the national championship. And if you find yourself kind of their right now because they're playing a hall of Famer program that's been so many final fours, and you think well, they're good. But Michigan say stuff, I don't don't sell them short. Texas Tech has been eaten people's lunch taking their money off this for two years with that kind of tally. They can absolutely win two more games. And what they were able to do was one of the most impressive performance. We've seen in the tournament. No, listen, I'm not gonna pick Texas to win the national championship. They actually don't fit. What is normally? The description of national champion. In other words, they they're not top eleven in both offense and fifty and defensive efficiency as I pointed out many times on this podcast six of the past seven into tournament. Champions are top eleven in both. The only exception is that fluky Kevin Ollie Shabazz Napier uconn team. They're number one defensive efficiency. And my God. All you need his eyeballs to note that that was probably true with what they did to Michigan inconceiva- in consecutive games, but their thirtieth offense efficiency and usually not always. But usually have to be better than that to tax cut. The nets on that final Monday night of the season. That said they just beat the number sixteen at compa by nineteen points and the number two team it can palm by six points and looked great while doing it. And so why do not check the boxes for a national for typical national champion in? Terms of individual talent or offense efficiency. I would submit that if you've just beaten the number sixteen at Kim palm and the number two team it can palm. There's nothing crazy about you went into more games. I. JP say, no more. I I agree. And I give them a real shot. Just with the way that they're built that that we will previous more upcoming podcast. But I think that that Michigan state game is a fascinating matchup, but we'll get into that down the road. So Texas Tech advances and it will play Michigan state in a national semifinal. And that's because the east regional final was settled on Sunday night. Michigan state sixty eight Duke sixty seven's Iowa's and got twenty four points, fourteen rebounds, three blocks in what was the final game of his college career Duke shot thirty three point three percent from three point range. It was a problem all season. It was a problem in the elite eight our debate missed a potential game tying three throw in the final seconds. Guess he did technically do that. They were down to he was at the line less than six seconds to play. He missed the first one then tried to miss the second one, but ended up making it, so I guess he never had a game free throw. But he the way he had two free throws. If you've made belt they could have tied the game. He missed the first made. The second. And then you know, we've seen it a million times basketball games. Michigan state's gonna inbound. Dukes foul. Michigan state's going to the other end and going to try to get one shot at it. This didn't really go that way. Michigan state imbalanced bought a cash. It's Winston he gets free in his able to basically dribble out the clock. And so a Michigan state wins at sixty eight sixty seven and a couple of interesting notes. I saw one from Zach Brazila for the New York Post who said who tweeted that Zion. Williamson took only one shot over the final six forty two and this from Roger Sherman. He says he tweeted Duke lost three games was I on Williamson in the lineup this year. RJ barrett. Went over nine in the final minute of those three games. The rest of the team had three total shots Zion had one that is. Barish wavelength you and me Cruzan side-by-side Holden hands. That's right because I had that same exact weep brought up shouts to Roger Sherman. Who by the way, pulled the at Roger handle on Twitter. Nice find their Roger that's an incredible stat. Because it it goes back to the zag loss at Maui. Right. Where just a little bit was made of RJ parrot kind of get some tunnel vision. Trying to get some hero ball in silence and play well in that game. And when you just through the context of just that the only three times, it's on Williams. It was on the floor for Duke loss had one total shot and those three games and Barrett. Never made a field goal. There's more that we can get into here. But let me just volley this back to you real quick. I mean, do you find that to be an indictment on RJ Barrett? Do you find it to be an indictment on Mike shoshefsky and his end of game approach? What is your overall takeaway on it? I think it's some of both right RJ's just wired to you know, try to in games in those moments. He we thought for the first time in Maui when they lost for the first time. It was when RJ I got the label of being selfish. Whether it's fair, not I'll let others aside. But certainly that started to become a thing selfish RJ Barrett. And it is also. The time where when Duke left Maui, but before it started playing games again. So the next game they played after losing was an Indiana game, and they beat Indiana ninety sixty nine and restless season, everybody just beat Indiana every game just beat beat Indiana. But Mike gig knowledged after one of those games whether it was Indiana game or the steps in Hartford game. But I think it was the Indiana game. He said we'd he spent some time putting in stuff specifically to ensure that gets touches because he can't not touch the ball the way he didn't touch the ball. And yet it was a common denominator in in the losses was in the lineup, and it was costly on Sunday and the day like when you've got somebody who is other worldly, and he really is other worldly, I mean, my even in defeat on Sunday just some of these plays. He was making and the way he was big boy and people at the rim and blocking shots on the other hand. I mean, he is something special. And I know I'm not saying anything that everybody doesn't realize. But when when you know he's that special and yet he still amazes you basically every game. I mean, I can't I can't speak more highly of him. And you got to be able to get that guy touches down the stretch more than he got down the stretch again. This this thing just can't be true. He took one shot over the final six forty two. And I know Michigan state started running double teams at him. I got it. But you gotta figure out you're a hall of fame coach, and you've got an probable future hall of fame player, you gotta figure out a way to get more than one shot over the final six forty two. Right. You do. I mean, the final game of silence is college career featured a lot of the stuff that we'd come to. Insanely, but pragmatically expect the the block on the three pointer. I think that was going top of the key crazy the recovery block. We had to duck. Under the backboard as he's falling back down to earth proving once more that he is actually human even though he is giving evidence otherwise, and so many games. He's played the season was awesome. He had just an awesome up and under move. I mean, there was at least seven or eight moments in this game where it was again. It was just like what he's doing. Just we just have not seen a player like this. And the fact that he didn't give us opportunities surprising. Because he's just he's just a fish int-. Like so much of his efficiency is his dominance in his instinct, and touch which I think is important to know around the rim. He didn't get those opportunities. The game itself had seventy is sixteen lead changes credited. Michigan state well-coached caches Winston is a stud when you watch him play. He he doesn't have the prettiest looking shot. He almost has a alerts to him. Like, he's you know, he almost looks like he's bent over more than he should be. When he's when he's dribbling the ball. But he's willing distributor. He's a smart shooter. He has a great instinct about him. He has nice touch. He gets by and around other athletes. He is the biggest reason Michigan state one. Now. Michigan state had enough physicality on the front line, which I didn't hear a lot of people making a lot out of heading into that game. But I had Michigan state overdue and the reason why thought was not just Duke in the Fallon stuff ailing them, which happened three pointers failing him, which was inevitable. This was always to me. This was always going to happen to Duke seem obvious, but that was part of the equation. And then I just thought that Tillman who has come along and plates wrong and been much improved player with the past few months, Nick ward, who is good. But also missing bunnies. Mission. Statement miss a few bunnies. In that game. They just seem to have quite enough. I mean at close shave win, but Duke Florida with fire never played a complete game. Like Virginia hasn't. Played a complete game yet either. And it's made the final four, but played really well to get past Purdue like it played to a standard that it would be happy with Duke did not play to a standard. It would be happy with any of its still include the the one where eventually pulled away from north coast state trailed in the first half late in the first half of that one. And then it just barely escapes CF. And then it gets just barely escapes out of Ginny tech that was that was a close one as well. And then here it goes up against a real opponent team that some people thought deserve to be on the one line in Michigan state gets done. So fantastic game. I just I love the fact that you get that Sunday League game, the final one, the reason why this lead it was so awesome. And the reason why I kinda chairs he's ages there the last games in the natural environment. You get them in the arenas, the final four awesome. But is is a different state. It's the biggest stage you're in a football stadium. These you just hope that the basketball games and the basketball arenas. You can get one or two good ones. We got four awesome. Ones. I similar to how I thought Kentucky was gonna get by Auburn. I wasn't convinced. Duke was going to win in the moment. Even though it pick Michigan state. But as I as they kind of just kept creeping around a shot. Michigan state should have should've made didn't go in Duke was still just hovering and I was expecting Zion. Williamson to get that touch never happen there. Which was a bit surprising. So credits Tom Izzo, his eighth final four mics jesse's. Now been denied in the elite eight in back to back years last year lost an OT to Kansas. This one loses by one point. And so he is still tied with John wooden at twelve for the most final four appearances ever. I expect him to finally break through there. But but he has had a lot of really good talent the past two years hasn't been able to break through and and yet Michigan state which said injuries gets over the top credit to credit Sparty. They've also had quite the quite the turnaround in a year's time and nothing to be embarrassed about if you're Duke, I mean, listen, you went to the elite eight and you're. Earn a final possession game against a you know, a big tin tournament champion and a big ten regular season champion Duke was more talented, but Duke with always more talented than everybody this year, but Duke was not unbeatable or perfect. They did have a flaw. And I I don't know that three point shooting cost them the game. But they did not shoot the ball well from three and that is something that was a factor in in all of their full all of their sign. Williamson. Let's say their full string losses. They didn't shoot the ball most of their losses. They did shoot the ball. Welcome three. I will say this though, Mike Jesse is down to final force in the past fifteen years. Did you realize that I did realize that the two now the reason why that's a surprising stat on a surface is because it's less than you think. But it's also I dunno shaded by the fact that he won the title both. They made when he gets there was the died or at least the past two times. But he's got two final fours in the past ten years for some context. Villanova's got to in the past three UNC got to in the past four Kentucky's got four in the past ten and Duke got to in the past fifteen and I don't know if that means you need to reevaluate your. Roster. The way you assemble roster. Like, I wonder if in Kentucky and get there either. So whatever, but I really thought it was smart that Kentucky was able to. Go get a grad transfer or two and obviously retry a different level grad transfer, the new using to be able to get, but you know, Gonzaga was awesome. This year with a sit out transfer. Kentucky had a grad transfer. If you're going to recruit one in done players as often as Duke is going to recruit them, I think complementing them with grad transfers might not be the worst thing in the world. Yeah. I probably I I I I'm thinking that kind of threw I think that's not not a terrible idea. If you look in the big picture though, right? Pairs? Bennett. Tony Bennett get's wrongly chided up until this year because the system he runs like it's not good for March. But I always say, you know, what if you look at the true sample, not just stabilize the quality of teams for is playing year-over-year year. No, it is showing you that can work in it does work in the final four. I think we'll probably shut people up at junior doesn't win a national title stupid, small contingents gonna exist. They're similarly if you look at what Kentucky Duke done with the approaches that they've had. I maintain that. This is working for them. Duke won national title under this kind of philosophy as to Kentucky recently. So I don't, you know, getting grad transfers, and if you can get a blend of both. Yes. But I don't think this is situation where for as long as we're going to have at least for another two three years, the one and done model on the NBA behalf still in place. I still think that we're going to get that. And that's that's fine. By me, by the way, my last thing on this. I tweeted this out like Zion. Williamson is the kind of player we never saw before. And almost certainly will never see again in college basketball. Now, there's there's weird hate for Zion. Because he has been this media magnet. If you've got an issue with that, you're loss cost. I don't know what to tell you like if you cannot appreciate the kind of athlete and player he wasn't by the way. He's a super terrific kid. I know that there was stuff attached to the FBI case with Kansas and all those allegations. I don't push those aside. I'm talking about who he was and how he was on the court. Just you could not help. But watch this dude he made Duke as watchable as it's ever been. I don't think he's minimum likable because in fact, I actually think I've seen more Duke eight in the past month than even I n ticketed, but he's done. So we don't have the final four little bit of bummer, but whatever we had whole seasons worth of him. And instead of like writing this like I can't wait for college basketball to get back to what it should be without Zion. Williamson all no like, it should be this it it should be having these awesome stars that we can revel at and if they get knocked out of the tournament, that's the nature of the beast. That's what makes the term unpredictable and amazing. I love it because of that. But but that's just a quick rain online overall. So I don't know how to segue back to you. But I wanted to squeeze in before we wrap up here. Now, I'm with you on every time this happens. People say well, see you can't win with one in don's. Yes. You can just that some teams heavily reliant on one players have fallen short of a national championship. Final four. It doesn't mean you can't. Win with one and done. Here's the truth. The goal every year should be a symbol roster that gives you an opportunity to win a national championship that when you head into March you have had the type of season that has given you the type of seed that has created the type of computer numbers that suggest you can win a national championship. And that was true for Kentucky this year, and it was also true for Duke this year, and then guess what we're in a single elimination tournament of forty minute games. And the only thing that kept Kentucky out of the final four with its freshman. Reliant roster is in overtime game against a team. That's currently eleventh that can bomb and the only thing that kept Duke out of the final four with its. It's heavily reliant on freshman team. Is appoint a missed free throw. One stop or one make and to draw big conclusions about what can or can't be done based on the results of games that could have even Bruce parole and Tommaso attell, you could have gone the other way very easily. Just like, I'm sure Tony Bennett would tell you his game against Purdue could go either way very easily just like, I'm sure crispier would tell you his game with zag could have gone either way very easily to draw big conclusions off of the results of games that. Were one shot here or there from being totally different results to me seems a little foolish, and so I'll try not to do it. You wanna make final four picks now or save them for later podcast. You know what let's save him. Let's say them picks straight up and it gets spread. Let's save them. How's your let's remind real quickly about it anymore? Well, I mean, I got to my final four in there. So I just wanna see how you were doing. I don't care anymore. It doesn't matter. Okay. It doesn't matter. Okay. 'cause I lied Duke to get Tennessee UNC. Gonzaga. Right. Yep. It was all good just a week ago at fourteen to sixteen Sweet Sixteen teens and then everybody just blew up on me. Why did they do that? Why can't you trust these stupid team? That's the beauty of this. And I will end on this after the literally statistically the weekend. Ever. Everyone's brackets looking good. And you can see how many people relying on Duke and UNC to a heavy degree as well those booted out, and and obviously have your favorite one. They're just. Yeah. That's the tournament for you. Yeah. Let's get out of here. Because Bomani Jones tweeted earlier today after Auburn made the final four for the first time in school history. He tweeted attention, New York City. I don't know where Charles Barkley is going to be tonight. But the place to be wherever Charles Barkley is going to be tonight. You gotta go find nowhere. Charles Barkley is going to be tonight. And I am about to finish this podcast and go to that place. Go find him and have a hell of a time. Yes. Love it. So that's the Devon down to test set Carolina. She has to Terry impotence. He's a legend to the home alarm now. And if you haven't subscribed to the island college basketball podcast be apple podcast yet. Please do that. Because we are far as I know the only people give you three college basketball podcast per week. The next one will come. We gotta figure that out either Tuesday night or Wednesday afternoon or Wednesday night. And so the best way for you to know the answer to that question. When is the Knicks? I coach basketball puck is going to come out is to subscribe to the college basketball podcast because then that thing. Gonna be right in your phone right after Matt norlander upload, so go subscribe. And while you're there if you got a second rate at favorably five stars and nice comments, and we will talk to you again, very very soon. 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Championship Monday

Courtside with Seth Greenberg

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Championship Monday

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I thought that it was interesting. I thought that Michigan state got overwhelmed by the Texas Tech defense thought that their -bility to make life miserable. Seh cash swinson their inability Michigan state to get any post ups because even in their switching Texas Tech out around in front of the gave backside help I thought they were absolutely phenomenal. You could take that game tape and and the game prior for Texas Tech probably any game. Tape and clip it out and you could have defensive clinic how hard they play. How connected they are. How they keep you on one side and pressure the basketball how they're switching is tight and connected, and they get up and denial. I thought they were phenomenal. Then Matt Mooney happened. But Matt moody happened for a while. Then the game was on the line. I thought that Chris beard called the number of the best player on his team and got him on a couple of pearls and made a big three Jerry Culver. But that game was really fascinating. Because you don't see Michigan state and a lot of ways get act tuft and get taken out the way, we saw them get taken out the other day the other game. Have you had to thing? Right. We're wanted. They're upset five minutes to go. Life is good. And I thought they put the brakes on and when they put the brakes on Bryce Brown happened Bryce Brown knocked down back to that threes. I think they were three four for seven from three point line in the last five minutes Auburn after being like four for twenty five or five twenty five early in the game. But you know, I thought Auburn. You forget about what happened at the end of the game. I thought you know, Auburn without aqui. Really did a terrific job. I thought the Andrea hunter without her KiKi, you know, in the second half. I jaggery hunter kind of impose his will on the game a little bit by you know, being more assertive. And you know, he's one of those guys you wanna see more assertive. But I thought it, you know, I may personally, I I think these games are. Well, played teams know exactly who they are. And how they're going to win. I think that you know, Virginia got chance to own a temple to game. And and in the end they made to incredible shots. And it's good to be Tony Bennett. You know, like like I like this. I know there's attention on the double dribble not double dribble, but man down for Kyle guy, rips three. And then Kyle guys gotta go shoot three free throws in front of literally the entire basketball world, and you could not be cooler in that situation. Then Kyle guy was it was incredible. And to me that was the story of the day. Look, I get it. You know, I thought it was absolutely file you can't throw your body into the body of shooter. Yeah. And a double dribble fine. They missed it. Go crazy, folks. Go crazy. But I just hate a guy just did something that I believe very very few human beings can do I believe that? I believe very few people have the stones to knock into three down one down for under pressure right corner. And then have the bigger stones to knock in three free throws at that time. I just don't I it just up stuff doesn't upset me. But it's just like what the hell. I mean. Let's celebrate the stuff that this guy did as opposed to. Let's stop with the nonsense. That's how I look at. I think first of all the first three, and they were down for the poised averaging you had 'cause I'm sitting here watching them bring it into the action quicker. They were never rushed his ability to Xiaofei can make that shot that three. But that was incredible. That was flat. Yes. The second one. His elevation on shot, and he was fouled. And my thing isn't my thing is at the miscall like here. Here's my thing. My thing is that my thing that I was born said about is after the game. I think the NCW needs to come out and JD Qazi come out and just own it, get it. Over with Bomani, where coaches are held accountable players are held accountable broadcast held accountable. The officials need to be held accountable. That's all nothing else. But in terms of Cal guy, and I found a great nugget yesterday. Great. This is good. This is actually this is even more than a full grown it. Do you know, I'm Macau guys grandma yesterday shoot? Kyle guy t shirt shared very, very nice nice. But family that his brother, but Kyle guys grandmother gave me this nugget. Do you know Tony beds middle name? Kyle die. Jeez. I might have known that actually guy. How about that? Tony bennett. What recruit a Kyle guy? And he was ebony guy Bennett. And then he went recruited Kyle. You don't get that anywhere. That's why this is the world rate is odd cats, but I agree with you guys ability step to live with the whole world had just get that time between making the first two and. And just step it up knocking out at three that was that was that was big time have you ever seen? Michigan state overwhelm like that zillion times overwhelmed. They were overwhelmed. They had absolutely no answer that kept setting that middle ball screen and all they did was switch. They being Texas Tech. Put a big guy didn't matter who was on them. He everybody can move their feet. Here's the one thing that I was absolutely stunned. I stunned by my brother, actually said, Dan, it seemed like there were six guys on the court for Texas Tech. When the ball went into the post. It was incredible. If you drove in the wrong spot Chris beard. Crispier learned a lot from coach night. There's sweats not stuff. But I'm not sure that a lot of people wanna give coach night credit, particularly in my world where I live in Indiana. But I'm not sure in the last how ever many years Bob Knight's teams ever played like crispier play. And truthfully. I'm not sure that I've seen many college basketball teams over the last ten years play the way crispier plays because nobody gets out in passing lanes. Anybody? Nobody really tries to pack line. A lot of ball screen different ways to play but manages aid. They keep the ball on the side. They don't over help. They have their head on with all the terms that we used to use with coach nine hundred years ago, and it is fantastic to watch. And I think you put it on Twitter. You know, here we are two different styles. And I love I love this championship game care with any little media Torp says I love this championship game. One style is keep the ball on the side. And the other style is field forced to ball into the mid. To well coached teams two teams that have really good players. If you don't like it. That's on you the hell with you. I agree with is. It's interesting. I felt Chris thinking they did interesting. They got around in front of the posts and double the post backside, and it sometimes just kicked the front guy out, and he rotated out to they seal down. They were so connected defensively. But yeah, this is a game of defense. This is a game of Pac line force it a little bit to the middle early help recover. Boom catas- keep it a front knows all that bad law. Bob. Aw against the team. That's going to try to keep you sideline influence you side on four she down to the bottom of the box. You know, when you keep it all on one side of the floor interchangeable like I thought cast Winston when they got a switch would would try to go make a play quick. But the problem is when he did the length and the swarming mentality of of the Texas Tech team is unbelievable. How about this though? How about crispier journey like he's so relatable? He's coaching for every single due to coach Juku every single do that that took a division three every single Dudek coach division to every single dude that he's a basketball lifer. He's relatable, he's genuine. He's emotional. He's passionate. He loves his players. You could see that. You could see they love back. He coaches hard. I've been like like this dudes journey is a thirty for thirty movie. So the other day, I'm doing a Dan Patrick show. Oh, and you got to go to a studio is it's a big it's on TV. It's a big deal kinda right? The L. I'm yeah. I'm finishing up the show. And I'm at the other end of where Dan's desk is an entrance and you kind of walk through the basketball court, and I come out of the door and there's Chris beard. He goes, hey, I just wanna say a low, blah, blah, blah, blah. We talk we talked for the law for a long time. And this is what I really liked about. Chris this is this is. Something I think is very cool. He had nobody with them. He he had s de that was upstairs, we went downstairs. My wife myself, Chris and one of the production assistance, like where's your entourage? Your coach coaches can never be by themselves. They always got to have fifteen guys with and he's like well I dis upstairs. But that's just because you know, he wanted to come to see the show because otherwise I'd just been here by myself. I very very cool. I do I I. Yeah. I just like the guys are, you know, Tony Bennett's the same thing. I was I was at mass with his with his uncle yesterday. And I saw him walking the streets yesterday. Guys, the greatest. Yeah. We were just talking about. He goes. Yeah. You know, he goes I remember the day. Tony was born dick Bennett, his dad came honking ended the into the driveway. We got a boy we've got a boy to clock in the morning and. I don't know just just two great guys coaching their brains out. No, you know, here's what I look at no recruiting stupidity. No parents acting like idiots. Just no press conferences, and it just guys man. No pun intended. But just guys coaching and guys balling in to me. It's awesome. To me. It's absolutely great to be. It's it's really good to ears view. I said it's too easy guys to reform. Yeah. Like, Tony, Tony? They went to championship. That'll be thirty thirty. Sure. But but like, Tony is stays true. To is. He doesn't really get bothered by what people think about how they play style of play race the pace recruits guys that fit system doesn't get caught up even with their successor changing who they're recruiting. It's guys that can play want to play in what they're doing. Chris Han, how the teams were put together are totally different. I mean, you think about to fifty you know, seniors. I mean, how do you go from air force to South Dakota to Lubbock? How do you go Tennessee in New York City Madison Square Garden, Saint John's Jamaica to Lubbock, and I think his experience in junior college and experience in division. Three in terms of putting team together quickly has enabled him to put this thing together quickly. I totally agree because he is not bothered by. I mean, I'll outwardly. He's not bothered by results. Relative to who's there. And who's not there? He just goes out and figures it out. Hey, we'll be back for more of our final four reaction. Of course are championship preview, but I I of word from vivid seats, we've all looked for seats. Whether it is different websites. Whether it is scalpers actually in Indiana scalping is legal and it's miserable. Experience to go through you pay far too much money for a seat that usually is not any good. So don't settle don't go to scalpers and lis- don't wait in lines. Shop for tickets to every game with the official ticket partner of ESPN is called vivid seats, and vivid seats, you can see your seats before you buy them. And they're back in this. I think is very important by hundred percent by guarantee you may have to find another way to spend your time besides waiting in line, but you'll be closer to the action than ever before head on over to vivid seats the law. Largest independent ticket. Marketplace around spend less time in a waiting room more time in the great seats of your choice. Don't just by any seat, get yourself a vivid seat. Hey, I gotta ask you a couple of things relative to tonight's game. Somebody asked me this. And I don't really know the answer. So you. Yes. So I'm going. I'm throwing up throwing if you're if you're Virginia. How do you tech? Texas Tech, Texas Tech. Yeah. How do you Tak them? 'cause you're not gonna change anything. You do. Let me let me ask you the better way. What did Virginia does is going to affect Texas texts defense? I think I actually think going to have a really hard time because I think that. On all that mover blocker stuff or side stuff. Whatever you wanna call it. It's a kind of a two man motion gain. I think that Texas Tex gonna keep them on one side and making really really hard from the first ball. So they can't get the ball centered. The Maccabi up to drive it to the middle to get that flare screen on the side that they get a lot in often ulcer switch to ball screen. I think when they get to that. I think you're gonna take the ball side post. What's it? They can move them a little bit. They're gonna take their ball side post and lift them all the way up behind the play drive at then from there have a guy behind and try to just add to what they do. Try to eat the crack or create some kind of weakside flare action. I think that's one of the things to try to do. I mean, they're gonna switch a lot of that a lot of down screen action and thrown it into Jack salt. That's what I'm saying. Right. So I think that the I think they will have a hard time because they don't have a lot of guys who can beat you off the bounce and that and that was the thing that I thought happened with Michigan state Michigan state if you've got the ball out of. Caches to say who else was gonna make a play. I thought that Michigan state for a minute or two little something going little something going throwing Lord. Yeah. The middle not on the side. Yeah. No, no, no. I know. And then all of a sudden that went away. And really there was there was nowhere to go. And I look at I look at Virginia. I do say this. I do say their ability to simply step up and knocking shots, regardless is going to be huge also say this Virginia defensively against Texas Tech. There were two points in that game. Where Texas Tech was got awful offense where they were throwing shots where they got totally discombobulated against Michigan state. And I gotta believe if you're sitting there watching film and your Tony Bennett and his staff. That's that's where you wanna get Texas A and M. I don't know exactly why it happened. But it did. And it allowed it allowed Michigan state to get back into the game at halftime. But and make a run in the second. Yeah. And make a run in the second half. Yes. So to me since Texas Tech did that that means you can get them to do that again. And if you're Virginia, I think the way you do it is just simply being solid and don't let anybody get past. You just don't let anybody get past. You seems that. Mooney. My thing for Texas Tech is real simple run your motion. But don't run you motions. You jump shots. Rodney strive to to get curls second side drives. So you're forcing some covers very good good. Carlos the you know, he is a good job of bump it back and then step down and getting a rescreen and curling. I think he can throw that pocket pass. I don't know about you ask you can finish. I think they'll try to force audience to finish. But I think that you try to create outfits at your defense. Don't defend us rep keep it on one side be really early swarmed all the stuff that they do. I mean, like here's the deal they allegedly forced to turn over twenty three percent of their possessions. All right Virginia turns it over about. I think eleven Senator who is that battles can be. It'll be interesting analytically. But I just think the bigger thing is which defense can really impose. Will we like Virginia? If Texas that keeps that ball more on one side and disrupts the rhythm of the move of blocker stuff. Then Virginia's gonna go to their boss Crete stuff. Virginia goes to the ball soccer stuff. They're getting they're getting they're not beating his team going to that ball screen stuff. They do because they really don't score they end up into ball at three quarter court with Kyle with tightrope shooting a deep three. That's what they end up when they get. I think you know, the other thing that I really like about both of these teams Seth, and I really didn't feel like either team change anything about the way they played like, I didn't think anybody that the moment was too big the, you know, all the stuff that we make a big deal about the size of the gym for shooting the ball that kind of thing. I didn't think either team was affected by any of that kind of stuff. I really did. And I just felt like these are these are older teams as we've talked about these are tough teams as we've talked about these incredibly well coached by level headed guys. And I didn't. And I think the same thing in the championship game. I in -ticipant neither of these guys are neither of these teams being influenced by the circumstances. Do you or do you think they'll be some jitters from from someone? Here's the deal. I don't I don't think they're just for someone because I don't think there were jitters from the coaches, right, right? I think those guys will just like they were playing ball seventy two thousand people. All right. You know? I I I'm different than other people. Maybe maybe I'm I'm an idiot. I think once the ball goes up like dudes are playing ball. I mean, like older got these are older guys ball goes up in the air. Let's play. I mean, there's more people screaming and yelling at I mean like every time these guys plates at anyway, they play in places that are packed every night. So it's more packed. They plan on national TV every night. So it's more. I mean, you got grown men out of here. I mean, you know, I mean, I to me it was like I got a kick out of you know, we talk on game day. Well, you know, the inexperience of the of the coaches mummy, and my made Chris veered coached for you know, out of a car ABA, the South Carolina worries twenty nine into I mean, he coached it seminal state. You know, you know, I mean like I mean, like he drove him, you know, van in a bus at McDonald's and thought it was a four course meal because he got a happy meal. I mean, you know, like these are just coaching her teams and players just playing, and you don't let I think both coaches are allowing players to enjoy the moment. But then when it's time to work work. That's that's my thing. I agree. Couple things that I heard this morning that I I'm just. Like what the hell? Would you have replay on that last possession where they did not call the double dribble now here? Here's my thing. I just have better fficials. Yeah. Can you have a one challenge in the last minute of the game or two minutes at a game? He has a last minute review. My my thing on the whole thing. Ficials just have to be careful. You know, if you want to reply hit a have won one challenge where you hit one button and it lasts two men. She at one challenge. I know you'd love it because you love when guys go to the monitor. But I mean, I see the foul is judgment, call the double dribble is a call. I mean, it, you know, it's it's not an interpretation. You know, you could fumble and pick it up. You can't fumble pick it up and dribble it all right? So look, and it said fortunately, people talk about my biggest my biggest thing is that the ficials right in line with the play. It was right in front of the trail official was right there. But even if you miss it, even if you miss it JD counts coming out and say, well, the one dot gonna comment on this. Why not want to come out and say, you know, what this zillion calls into game. But that moment of time. You know, though, you mentioned you ficials name. You know, we missed a foul, and we missed the double dribble. Obviously disappointed that happened. But you know, officials are human as well like if you made a bad decision at the end of the game that cost your team win you'd have to answer for it. Griot broadcaster the end of the Virginia game day Purdue game. The poor guy said I thought the game was over instead of game going overtime. He got killed on it. Well, then why wouldn't he fishes become? This morning. I think I heard Jay talking about the NBA rule of one file under two minutes as opposed to a team like for Jin or excuse me a team like, Aw. Yeah. Virginia who had fouls to give at the end or Auburn had house to give whatever it was. What is your style? Can I tell you my stance on it? My stance is right now, we have so people know we have to have that we have seven files if you have four files with a minute to go that means you got to files to give. And then the third file which is the seventh will make a one in one. Personally. I don't wanna go to the NBA rule because I like rewarding teams that have a little bit of discipline. I like rewarding team that doesn't fall. Like, we're ordering a team that keeps his hands off people moves their feet, and I think you do that. And I think that if you all of a sudden make everything equal in the last two minutes, and you're not you're giving eight more undisciplined team a better opportunity, and I personally don't like it. Your thoughts. Well, I think we continue trying to be able to never be gay. Gay. Like we want to put ourselves in that same category of being an NBA game. And that's great some people believe that we can agree to disagree or you know, whatever, but we're not the NBA. So like I need to go to twenty four second clock because they know it's not our job when preparing the players to play with recycle out. But you're talking about like, you know, thirty players every year. It's not our job to prepare them just to play the NBA's and short o'clock. It's not the one rule. I would like, and I just think I'm selfish because I think create greater finishes as advancing to basketball. The one thing you just said about the defense. This the thing that the determining factor in this game could be that Virginia defense without fouling greater than Texas Tech defensive felling. Totally agree took that that could be the difference in the game. When you look at teams that play well teams that play. Well, don't turn it over. And don't file, you know, the other thing about this. And I've always said this thing, I have a conversation. Maybe we've talked about it on an ongoing running text exchange with the GM of the colts. Chris Ballard about this about more teams lose games than they do win games. And you think about it? I know that you can call whatever you want you can say whatever you want. But man, if you don't file cow guy at the end of that game you win that game. I mean, you say whatever you want you win that game nine maybe he hits the shot. If you don't follow him. I don't know. But the. The thing. I like about these two teams they don't seem to beat themselves. I just don't Virginia being the number beat being the poster child for they do nothing to beat themselves. And ultimately, I'm gonna take Virginia in the game. Because I think personally I think that sells in a game like this. I think that wins in a game. Like this. I'm actually I agree. I mean, like, I know coach night you say stupid loses more than smart wins. Right. Isn't it wasn't right out? But anyway. It's interesting. I think that you know, and that's a good like, I think the fouling is a big thing in this game. I really think to either get into either team's benches. I it's a huge advance. A u you advance. Braxton could play a big role in this game for Virginia in ten minutes. He plays. The one guy that you're known talks. But I think two guys from junior. Like, I was picked I'm like. Like X, quote, unquote, not X factors. But guys if let's see how come again, I think d- key think-i Clark are bigness Cape de Keith day because you know, maybe, you know, as they're trying to keep he might be up to get to the glass. He might be up to, you know, get them in easy basket. He might a and then key Clark. Can he keep Matt Mony? I mean, you talk about the shock. Will key Clark is wells you precious bona does everything else like he's got a tough match-up. Batch of Matt Matt six nine wingspan madman. Matt Mooney, you know, a guy that that made big shots in that game. At who they end their motion. We'll post them up quick little back screen emotion and get into block or or get them on on on a downstream lifter big bigeye up a little bit back a guy down. I like like that's going to be that's going to be interesting. And then the other thing we haven't talked about this Trico it's going to be able to play. To size in a boot today. Everybody's in a boot. You Seth everybody. It used to be wrapping up. Now, you put a boot on it. If you want to bring on it. No put a boot on it baby. Anyway. Yeah. So set to me I agree with the following. I agree with the bench, and I agree with the Akita. But you know, who is really good in the middle of that game was de'andre hunter offensively. I thought he was very good in and you have been talking about de'andre hunter the entire year. I think this is a game for him. I really do. I think if you're gonna go beat somebody one on one Kyle guy shooting over them is one thing. But de'andre hunter doing it from the foul line down. I think is another thing. I do I think it's big always can't play. It's really big because they don't have the matchup for limited like Owens, and look they're gonna end up in some switches. Anyway. Yes. The overall size of Texas Tech is something that's a factor in this game just their overall size. I mean, like they, you know, they they're not switching with six foot guts. There's with their switch with six five six six long, armed guys. And that's what it's which is good. If you're a coach switches like you got to recruit to your recruits here, the defense like when I when I coached we we had six seven six seven wings. We had big point cards, and we did that for a reason. And we we had three wings or garden, and maybe a big I might be six eight. But the reason we wherever switches 'cause I know I used to call him. I just a joke. We need more medium sized guys. Medium-sized guys help you win games. And I think that those medium size guys could be the difference. In terms of how they defend Virginia. We'll be back with our final four reaction show and our national championship game preview in a minute slam jam maybe what do you do warm enough for the game? All the games, I watch even when I can't get tickets. It helps bring stadium. To ever watch. It. Daddy, doesn't again come on dick save it for the air. We've got a game and check out vivid seats. It's the easiest way to get all the tickets to the games you want to go to vivid seats for the wind baby. All right. When you go through the entire basketball season. And you look back on the whole thing. And we all love Duke, and then we all have aga-. And then we all have whatever is Texas Tech playing better basketball than anybody's played all year. They had the best tournament of anyone. Dominated tournament. They have they dominated the tournament like Comey, can you remember a team that has dominated the tournament the way they have. I mean, they'd be a Michigan team to everyone says was a great defensive team. And it had a chance to get off. It's the Michigan state. You know, who you know, let's face it pedigree and playing really well big Ted conference term champions. N m let let's be honest. Michigan state. I mean, how how they got here though, is no Lankford ward was out mcquaid was out in the middle. I mean. Who who had been who would have been very big in that game, by the way, he's type of guy that has toughness in ferocity and resilience probably could have been a good player in that game. But I mean they've had an incredible season. I hate when people say, well, you've been to eight final four zero one more on what I mean. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, and they should be celebrated for what they accomplished this year. But Texas Tech to me like you can't say Virginia's had a great run in the final four for domestic. Maybe. Five. Auburn Purdue was auburn's gotta be the best team they beat. But you're talking about the run to them playing Virginia night. They're not plight. If you say who's played better right now in this moment of time visi, easy, not even close, Texas Tech. The only reason I'm taking you as because they seem to never lose. Easy easy. Texas Tech's playing better in Virginia. Not even close. No like, I'm telling you. When you watch Texas Tech play. Econo- get the feeling the other team doesn't have a chance. Would you agree? Yeah. They've overwhelm their opponent. Absolutely overwhelmed their Ponant. It's it's it's undeniable how they they imposed what they're doing defensively on there and dominated them. They've dominated their opponent, basically. So like, I mean, if you're saying all right in this moment and thought who's playing better? It's not even a debate tip out. Perfect pass catch it finish. Seven six points. And whatever seconds a bump back side out of bounds. Get found on the three you'll push it up the four make it incredible three a really good player. Step into the line making two three to keep keeps hope alive. I mean, it's not even it's not even I mean, look Virginia's terrific. But they they they like Tony Bennett said the date advancers survive at its greatest. Yeah. So I mean, are they charmed is this is Tony Bennett the anti Jim Valvano, but having a Valvano rod? The anti. He is the anti he's. Yes. Well, Tony Bennett, America's greatest living human being. Yeah. I mean, I told you wear no time still look good kind of. Can I ask you a couple of bigger questions that you may not want to answer? But this is the world's greatest pot. I think you're gonna ask me about avenue and Duke. Yeah. I knew you ask that I was thinking to say we have to touch this don't we? I mean, if if I if we're all to believe that the recordings of Kurtis Townsend at Kansas saying, we all know the deal for Duke, or we all know the deal for Zayn Williamson, we all to believe then that he went to Duke for free. I mean, there's got or or is it like migraine? Berg was saying today. Perfectly legal. What's the problem NCWA says that it's violation which means that it's fraud, which means that it's in federal court, but really it's a victimless crime. Where do you stand on this? Well, first of all, I mean, I think here's the deal. I mean, if they're donate or giving money into what is it the one, oh, whatever it is. Van profit? That's how he would get away with. Here's here's I this guy. Why would he be saying this? He doesn't have factual things to back it up. Like, why would you? Why would you is this guy so wacky? And so ninety that he's going to be making these statements and not have proof to back where he is thirty. So he's supposedly thinks logically and in progression. And in order. So I mean, any of us shocked that that may be another shoe company would do vigorous just chameleon Dida step burn this shoe wars that we're trying to secure relationships. I mean, Marvin Bagley comes into same conversation. Marvin Bagley stat had had a contract with Nike as well. So I mean, so that's first and foremost, it's just that's the way it, here's my here's my problem with and everyone thinks I'm going to get I really don't care. They said, well, what's the big deal the bills because it's against? The big deal is if they're getting paid one hundred fifty thousand dollars to make sure they go to school ex a Nike school. It's an NC double violation and diskettes drills for all the guys that are not having someone do the same thing for them. It says nothing to do with all the players deserve more. That's fine. That's great. And when roles change they should be given more. But while the rules the way they are that everyone should be working under the same rules. And you know, look do gets great players do close got great players. Well, I don't know. I mean, you got Lance Thomas, and that's. Relation. You got the right way back with Avery in always to Kansas City. Yeah. Now what he was from Chicago. But he played for Kansas City. Hey, you teams. Yes. Magaji? So I mean like, I mean, here's the deal. I'm not pointing fingers I don't have the formation. But let's not put our head in the sand and act like nothing has happened. Because if this if nothing's happened. This guy's just like throwing haymakers. He really is crazy. But I can't imagine him saying this stuff unless there's Blidi too, right? I looked. All right. Is it wrong? Is it wrong for you mentioned Marvin Bagley Zayn Williamson? He was in the Washington Post. I believe Romeo length for one hundred thousand dollars from Adidas to his dad is a U program. Is that wrong? It's a way to do it legally. Right. Right. So you ever finds lives in grey or so you could do it legally. Until they change the rules, or whatever, then, you know. Is it wrong? It's business. And I I think shoe companies are trying to develop relationships to find the next Michael Jordan to find the next Brian James to find the next penny. Hardaway, whomever, it is because let's face it. The basketball. Market is a very very small market. I mean, this you are making money on who makes money in and shoot. Lebron? Maybe koby. Who who else sells you big guys don't sell shoes? But what do you? What do you mean? Like, what are does fire? I mean, that's just the way it is. Now is it writers wrong? If they can do it legally within the rules. I'm all for it. They're they're the shoe company's doing and say, we'll do this for you. But we wanna go you to go to school ex that then then it becomes a little bit different to me. Yeah. We saw if I got a standing, and then my my. Self worth or whatever is going to, you know, I'm gonna go to heaven based on giving a kid money who needs money. That's not a bad thing. I'm a little torn on it. If you wanna know the truth Seth, I don't know that it's necessarily awful for somebody give somebody money. But here's here's my deal. And here's where I just I don't like it. I quit a little bit. Seth I quite a little bit to steroid use in this vein back when when everybody was quota everybody was using steroids. Everybody wasn't using steroids and the guys that didn't use steroids. Guess what they got? They got the boot they got they got nothing. They're back home selling insurance in their hometown. The guys that did use steroids. Get the big contracts guys did use steroids. Got you know, the fame hall of fame even some of them because it hasn't been proven. It's kinda the same thing in college basketball. If you don't involve yourself in nonsense, if you don't involve if you feel that, hey, look a hundred thousand dollars to a kid from shoe. Isn't what I want to be involved and you get punished for that. And that's why that's why I really love this final four because at least to this point. I don't feel like Tony Bennett. And I don't I don't feel like. You know, Chris beard are involved in that stuff. And I like that if that makes me a bad guy that it makes me a bad guy. If that makes me anti whatever that it does. But. I just don't like if you don't participate in something that is either against the rules or skirting the rules ear a lot of guys have been fired because they won't Cheech flee. I mean. I don't know. I don't know. I just I don't like that element of it Seth I'm all about helping kids and helping families, but I'm not all about buying. See I think is the difference in my opinion between helping a kid and buying a kid. And I think when you flat just by the kid to get a kid to come to your school or having someone by him for you. It's surely a big difference. Because to me that's intent. It's not being the the the intent to get a reward and not being the intent just hopefully a person that struggling in their station in life seventy talking about let's wrap it up with your pick. So you got and why I got Texas Tech. I think Texas Tech in a battle of defenses a battle of pack line verse sideline battle of I think they have the ability to disrupt and and make it harder for junior to score. I like Texas Tech because I think that they they're motion is predictable unpredictable enough that they'll try to move them a little bit. And then they'll curl them drive them. I think they'll be up to offensive rebound. Just ted. And I think that this just watching Texas Tech. And of course tournament they've been the most dominating team in the tournament. Why would it stop now? I totally agree with you. I'm taking for Jinyu only because duke's not here, and it's the only team really to beat Virginia. No, Florida's steak did this actually this Texas Tech team. Does remind me of Florida state to a degree. I mean, obviously, nobody's deep. But man, they get after defensive letting Texas Tech's gonna win the game. But I'm gonna take for junior that is the ultimate B S nonsensical hedge, and I'm embarrassed for myself, and I'm going to go in front of the mirror. I'm a knock myself out with a right cross to chops honest to God. Like, everything about me says text tech and win this except for the fact that I'm gonna take gonna take Virginia because I just simply don't think they lose. I don't know about a magic run. I don't know about blast. I'll about all that happy horse bleep. I just don't think they lose. I don't know makes it makes sense. These squash set the college basketball championship addition of the world's greatest podcast. 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Tony Bennett, UVA Head Coach

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Tony Bennett, UVA Head Coach

"Slam jam Ben dick, what are you doing warm up for the game? I all the games I watch even when I can't get tickets. It helps bring stadium atmosphere to wherever on watching all the diaper. Daddy, doesn't again come on dick save it for the air. We've got a game and check out vivid seats. It's the easiest way to get all the tickets to the games you want to go to vivid seats for the windy. We want to welcome in coach Tony Bennett who last night, man. Oh, man, UVA put an absolute clinic certainly in the last fifteen minutes onto cues coach, thanks for taking the time. Your team last night. I know you've had great games over the years. But that was about as good a fifteen minutes is I've seen all year in college basketball -fensive defensively. What were your thoughts on it three or so hot? And just started clicking them in our defense. Really? You know, it kind of I guess fueled our defense. So it was important to that was a tight game. And it it opened up with like I said it's sort of perfect storm. But I was it was fun to coach that you don't always that stretch was as you guys know as well as as all of I'm not sure Danny Hannity. Those. No, no, not like that brother. No. No. No, no. What did you say to you guys at halftime because you guys were pretty loose with the ball first half. And then the second half did a great job of taking care of the ball. And you did a great job of figuring out a way to get almost matching up with zone and then getting into the middle of ninja satanic from there. What was your message? Yeah. I think we had eight turnovers and we gave up eight offense rebound. You know, y'all look at those stats that we realized like say, you know, what do we have to do to eliminate losing? I, and we gotta have no you better have an a or a minus in, you know, taking care of the ball giving up, you know, or one and done on the rebounding, and then obviously, no fast-break points. And we just have those gotta clean up and play the game. And you know, our guys have been experienced, and and that known it can go both ways it takes a little bit of a Justin the length of it and all that stuff and also sometimes that zone just to you and you're playing well, so it's a double edged sword. But thought we just at the you know, we got some guys behind zone that could catch and finish. We we missed a few in the first half. So it wasn't. I didn't like blow them up was just like listen, if we're going to be effective as what we have to do. And I thought the Andre really guarded battle because they have some really good individual one on one players and our defense. I thought took a step, you know, in that stretch where we just spread out played are gaps. But we bothered individual shots. And then as I said kept him off at lasts without a company with the kind of the the shooting and the offense of output. Really? You know was a quick turnaround. Coach it you mentioned the word blow your team up. I'd seems to me senior back in the Bahamas and watching you now this looks like a team that you don't have to blow up very often is it. No. I think you you feel the mood. I think you know, practice has to be sharp and intense and challenging, and then, you know, if you sense it as a coach in a moment, whether it's at halftime at a time out just need to. Okay. Yeah. Sometimes have to trust that. But when you have experienced players, you know, it's this level. You gotta play the possessions. And it's whether there's different ways to do it. But I think the experience and no one, you know, we're we're in a race year support for us that was a huge game for us. Now, we still have a chance at a an ACC regular season championship. It was you know, it's just about not playing perfect but playing the possession. Well, all those the majority of the time. You don't call guy was ridiculous. But the more I watched the Andrei hunter, there's a better defender in college basketball. I don't know who he is. Because he guards point guards to power forwards. How unique ac- just a half his offense versatility along with his defensive. I still. Yeah. I think a member Malcolm Brogdon could do that he could guard and was so strong out as Paul, but both of them almost a seven foot win spanning the Andre has a seven to wingspan and taller the ability to have that link, but yet guard one through four I guess, you could say five and in today's game the way the game's going that's huge. Because so many of the form in are terrific guards. Or you got to go out on the perimeter. And and then do that. And I think the Andrei is always really continued to improve his slides on the ball. And you just see him coming into his own that way, and that's really important because times if you want to switch ball string, you can do that. Or like you said put him on some different smaller guards and try to use his links to bother them coach. What do you do a lot of people talk about, you know, conference tournaments all that kind of a lot of people out of their great defensive team. And and you know, your offense. I think it gets overlooked a lot of. Times based on a percentage fans know like how much you practice each offense defense transition, but by percentage how much do you give each? I think it's pretty balanced, you know, some days of different and you get to this stage. You know, we had that was you know, a quick turnaround with a Saturday Monday game. But but you try to be sharp. I think you shorten your time. We we is what we do. We short in our time. But but keep the intensity up, but it's a pretty good balance. You know might be early in the year, you might be you know, fifty five sixty percent defence forty five offense. And it's just the feel of it. But it's not like we we don't bring the balls out. You know, we we we sit against the wall for five minutes. I'm not like that. It's right. It's there's one on one three hundred three or four four work. You guys are playing offense against southern. But you're you're kinda mixing and matching. But I would say you, you, this is interesting you guys both as as you know, coaches, I was on a podcast with my father, recently and rarely happens. But someone asked him. They said how how what's the secret? 'cause he's way ahead of me. Or was way ahead of me. How do you get your teams to defend the way you want them to what's the secret? Like, how do you do that? And his answer was interesting. I even told it to my team his answer was every night. He just said every night. That's the way you do it. And it doesn't have to be the whole practice. But it has to be, you know, the same not what she teach what you emphasizing. And if there has to defense, you can't just are we got it? Okay. We'll leave. It will be fine for couple of weeks. You have to continue to pour into it. And have a a mindset, I think your staff does and your players have to understand that. Or you got to make sure they understand it. And and it's got to be a nightly or or a very consistent kind of thing. How can sister with like just your principles? I know I had chance to do some games last few weeks, and I've seen people go through walk throughs, and they cover. Thirty place twenty plays instead of just saying, right? You know offensively. These are the five things they wanna do everything else. We'll just cover have to give or take away. But, but you know, every we're just gonna cover on our principles. How much you principles change game to game? The pretty consistent. I think the principles don't change. Now. You have to look at teams. They okay, they have something unique. And maybe they have a few things that might challenge your principles. So there might need to either be. All right. Here's how we're going to do it. But here's what we got in our back pocket or here's an adjustment. Let's see how it goes. But I just remember as a player an Indian just my philosophy. And maybe how I was coached to the I it's hard to remember everything in the moment. You you have to understand if you know tendencies, understand personnel. But you have to be freed up to be a sort of an aggressive in. What you do? That's how I think you can play your best. But, but boy, there's so many different ways to do it in saying that I know some coaches are so detailed, and they're so good players have every play memorize I think our guys because they're ever Jinyu. Their minds are so full with the academic side that we can't do that with the basketball side. But I think we're more principal in it sets. And then, you know, make some adjustments. I you you destroyed the state of Indiana. Anna. And you do it every time you're on because Kyle guy goes for like every time people watch him, and you know, the the state, but if you don't mind talking about him, he, you know, he's an interesting kid, right? He's not the normal. I don't know the right word just you know, he's just not a normal kid. He's an interesting kid. He's got a lot to him. Correct. Yeah. He has he has a, you know, if you watch he really you look at him to be, you know, his statue you what he does he deceptive with his athleticism, buddy. He loves the game. He has fun. You know, he he knows a coach he stopped smiling and giggling with the opponent, we're getting ready to tip off or this is a serious part of the game. But you'll Kyle. He just I think he he understands that. But he's he is he's going to enjoy life. He's like that with his family like that with, you know, his friends I see that. And I'm and sometimes you marvel at that. But he's been significant and coming here, and and just, you know, continuing to, you know, help our program so much and he has a gift. Dan, you know, that ability to to shoot the ball like where he can turn in the air or get it rolling in a streak that that not a lot of guys have. And that's so impressive set. It was better than you thought. He was. I I I mean, I didn't you know? I was pretty excited about it. Because I saw high school at times. And you know, he made the McDonald's all American game. He's the first guy we've had that I've coached that that did that. And so I was excited about him. And you're always hopeful. But no, he's he's had some performance. I think he's continued to when he gets on a roll you're like how did he just do that? You've got that fortunate enough to coach well, Joe Harris, but I talk about clay, and I've had a couple of those. But who could just a few guys that can catch turn in the air shoot, you know, and just that get that quick release. And he's he's got that as well as any. He gets on slow quick. Yes. Yes. Yeah. He got us some shots that were just absolutely absurd to me. Non that? He never did the ball, and he catches your kids there. And just just now is that something you guys work is that something that quite honestly, he came in that was car this kind of DNA. Oh, he was well coach had good form. But we always talk about, you know, a Compaq, you know, some guys can do it. Some guys can't put a compact tight repeatable stroke, obviously with balanced footwork. But you know, guys at drop it below the belt buckle and a lotta guys. Do we sometimes can't break those habits, but you watch the efficient quick shooters. And it's just a quick little dip is very compact. And you know, Kyle. And we work on that stuff. I'm gonna talk those guys, and we kind of have shot progression. But he came in with a lot of that. But I do think as great of a shooter as as all these guys are they have to whatever call them their vitamins they have to hone their strokes. They have to work at it. They have to keep keep it there. And you know, you don't always make them, but it's got to be repeatable. And then you have those nights where all the sudden you get in his own and he's done that more than one night. But that's the result. I gotta ask you one question at as that play that were set got the flagrant one. I don't know if I'm sure you've watched a game tape fat. But all right. He. Tides Rome takes a shot right across his mum. And the only thing does after he gets hit. He doesn't even flinch the ball swung below to fan line. He just got back to the baseline inside and continued to defend the post. I mean, I have the kids even talked about that you see that play as I did. I did like we're back. I am. You know? I remember is interesting. What happened in the game? I kind of I don't know if he was stunned a little biddy kind of eight that elbows we set, but he I looked at him. And he looked at me and someone on her bench that hey, he he caught one above the, you know, the shoulders he got an elbow to the face or whatever. And I said ties could hit. Did he help you? And he goes. Yeah. And I said to the ref. I can we check that in the rest kind of like me, he goes, are you sure? And I said try, and I looked at are, you sure you've gotta goes. Yes, sure. I got hit. And so the ref said, okay. We'll check it. I said, no check it because you know, you wanna you don't want to waste the rest time on it. But I I didn't realize until I saw the the replay after that it was that way. I'm glad I don't know. If it connected fully, I guess I got asked high about that. We didn't talk about it. But glad it didn't knock them out or connect fully is. It was it was the greatest like like it was almost the best. You have like just work as waiting on the other side. You gotta say it across the present and divide the pass. It was the greatest. Did moved into the right position on the bottom side, right? Coach. I gotta ask you man last year the tournament sixteen seed one you guys you have a plan for how you're going to handle any of this. I mean because you're gonna get bombarded with it kids are going to get bombarded with it as you get through all this kind of stuff. You know? I mean, it's just it's what is going to be do you? Is there a plan to you talk about what do you do with all that? Well, I think we tried to do right with it when it happened after it happened in this year, and and address it and use it and take ownership and say it is two of our stories. What happened can we most of us have grown so much from a type of adversity or two in our life. Where it it hasn't shirt us and helped us, you know, you know, basketball and beyond and I think that's been the case. And you know, it's been something. That's always brought up a lot get answered or asked about or your here. Crowds chance that you know, the UNBC chant, but you know, this we're in a race right now. This is year. It's new. Team. And we've tried to glean from what we can from it. And I'm sure obviously is we didn't the turn. Of course that stuff will be brought up and asked, and you just you just laid online. There's nothing guaranteed in one and done. You know, I just I'm so proud of our guys because we're in an eighteen game conference where one game left, and we have a chance to win, you know, an ACC championship, which is is unbelievable. And then we step into the ACC tournament. And then the NCAA tournament will be there lay it on the line. Of course, been proactive about it. But but you gotta show up and play and play your best. And that's that's the reality of this or your fun team to watch coach. I just watching your kids just tied Jerome whole group. Just how much they enjoy each other and trust each other both ends and that it's just fun to watch the team play for old people that question, your style or your your style win or well, that's sometimes you have a frontier but coach in and you. Have a terrific team. Are we enjoy watching black bra? Appreciate it guys. And I respect you guys. Both your minds for the game. And like I said, hopefully, we can just keep on. And I enjoyed being on with you guys. Thanks a lot coach. All right, Dan. Art.

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Carolla Classics: Dave Coulier Celebrity Farts, Coach Tony Bennett, DAG as Bryan Cox

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Carolla Classics: Dave Coulier Celebrity Farts, Coach Tony Bennett, DAG as Bryan Cox

"Thanks for listening to the Adam Corolla show on podcast one. Well we're heading right on into ended the New Year with momentum these beautiful corolla classics love these things. Enjoy listening to thank you guys for listening to and GonNa hit it hard in the new year. Make you proud of US so Spread the word and enjoy and also macari New Year's here Make a resolution solution deal with all that junk. You don't WanNA use don't stuff in a closet sell it. You got a bunch of stuff this year. Then you've got a bunch of old stuff and you don't want that that old stop but don't let it gather up and gathered dust take care of it. macari snap make selling stuff super easy. Just take a few picks of it added description and you'll be connected to millions of potential buyers macari even emails a shipping label when it sells no awkward meet ups five hundred thousand reviews on the APP store average. Oh nothing. Four point eight star rating not too shabby five of course so ring in the new year with less stuff in your home and more money in your pocket and more room in your closet. That's M. E. R. C. A. R. I. Macari the selling out hello and welcome back. Corolla classics for December Thirtieth Two thousand nineteen the show. We highlight the greatest moments of the Adam. Corolla show playing you some little nuggets little clips and we've got a great great show for you today. My Name's Chris. Locks Amman executive producer of the atom cruel show and with me as always Corolla archivist superfan Giovanni none of these clips are dug. It's that's right. They're not the more and more strips. Yeah Oh yeah. We got chicken strips today and they are flavorful. Actually I probably wishing relate this first one to food because it is a clip about celebrity wind. That's right dave cool. Ea from full house else came in in two thousand sixteen and showcased a very impressive talent. Geographic Brian Adam. Very impressed with his talent. Play the clip before incredible demand. They want to hear it again. Episodes no longer in the feed Adam Corolla show eighteen Dave Cooley celebrity wind for May Twenty Sixteen St Mission You said Oh students are upset about but it sounds like it was one student who laid one tweet. Why why would you change your bit if it was just one part of canyon catering to such a vast minority because it's happened a few times now but that was the first time someone reacted in social? She'll media and tried to like start up with it you know. And here's here's my deal on stage. I'm a glorified birthday clown. I grow up and blow hand parts. Do Voices and I play my Harmonica Z.. New comedians pen farms by doing that on stage takes place the celebrity wind impressions Lindbergh. Okay well hold on. I'll tell you what you gotta do is name a celebrity. I well I will win depression. I should I name the celebrity you can name for burt. Bacharach curb perfect. Well As far as I can. That's why task deal. Are you talking about the young Bert or burt younger. The younger younger bird in his prime. Right every. That's it seventy seven. You want to hear the difference now. this guy is in love really have changed. Yeah maybe anybody I mean I'm out on the morning show. I believe one of the scenarios was John Goodman in loose shorts around two PM at the craft service table. Okay so scenario scenario. He's not wearing his Tommy John Underwear like he's here I don't I don't I don't mean to correct with Charles. Berkeley wasn't really us. One more that went kind of the opposite direction snow is a Sarah Palin after she found out that she was no longer in the running for president and she was wearing pantyhose. How about timely? One Data Ted Cruz. His wife got elbowed in the face. Go you by surprise. Kinda world around there all right. This is yeah this is this is Gwyneth paltrow actor or one of her two hundred dollar smoothies okay. All natural as she. He's stepping off of the best by stepping doing that. Mover after step off ashtray. Dropping kid off I got. It's quest up at sounds rush. She's in shape just so dead nuts on I was is there that is dead nuts on. Do you want her now after like a fat burger. Yeah yes the king cheese Chilean neg all right here. We go when it's Belco the way your kids are GonNa love Jimmy Booger and they're gonNA love it. There's a song call we love to Fart in in there and as you scroll through the pages the music starts playing. Oh so Robbie Wykoff the lead singer of the Roger Waters Walter Wall tours in this Dave 'cause play sacks yeah we got some we got some great music inherits a lot. That's a lot of cool music. A lot of jokes for parents I and again let me just put that out there now exclusively on I tunes. Let's see we go back to farts anytime if you we'll do one more Oprah she's She's going camping with Gail. All right. Okay and the head. Didn't he moore stew that night and she is really. She's doing that move where she she. She does not have to use the bathroom but since the bathroom is the woods and she has so much pressure built up from the dinty Moore stew she tells Gail I gotTa go pay off. I'm going to walk away from the camp but she's really doing it just to release the the gas has been building up over the dinty Moore the night before and then the following morning. She's going to get as far away from the Campfire. She can't really just let it fly. Hi Dave stood up for this. I gotTa Grease I like to pop and release at the end. I'll be I'll be honest. I don't see why you need that. Bruce Jenner smart it up so high. You gotta come to my house. And then we're going to camels increase find pretty good audience over there. Yeah all right. Where do you go from there? You go then you in an hour Dave Cooley back in two thousand sixteen doing something that he does best celebrity impressions. I'm sure he'd be flattered by that. Yeah no he really is just an incredible talent I watched America's funniest people. Yeah Yeah exactly. We Love Dave Cooley in. Please please come back and you know G O. We've played that one a couple times on and cruel classics still get requests all the time for us to play because we get a lot more and they wanNA keep hearing so we'll keep playing it because it truly is just one of the greatest moments ever in history this show all right. Let's get going some more cliffs before we do though. I WANNA remind everybody Adams going to be in Milwaukee January Twenty Fourth Chicago January twenty fifth fifth. and IT'LL BE CLEVELAND IN INDIANAPOLIS in February so come out check. Adam Cross unprepared his standup show any also does some Improv. In also shake your hand and take pictures of the afterwards so it's it really is a great time. Let's all laugh together now. This next clip clip. This is from two thousand. Fourteen and features Alison Rosen. Brian Bishop and David Alan grier girl show thirteen ninety nine August two thousand fourteen Dang Brian Cox the NFL hard knocks impression. Everybody looks as has there. Ever been an instance when somebody was either buying an automobile or buying a flat panel TV where they went in and instead the salesman. Here's how much I have to spend and the guy came back with a slightly lower number. has that ever happened in all the annals because there you go I if you buy a car you can't spend a nickel over twenty six thousand dollars in the guy comes back we can put you in a three series for thirty one. Five Live the monthly payments. What whether it's stereo equipment or cars? Whatever number you give them? As a matter of fact you have to take your number and take twenty five percent off that a number because they will attack on twenty five percent to that number like catch a contractor does with call times for me Hitchin. Yeah thank you. This show pitcher. uh-huh is that how you buy cars. Because that's not how I buy cars by driving into other cars going on a lot saying this much money and I go I go on a lot. What test drive the car thinking about then? I arrange make a decision that I arrange to buy it but I don't buy it from the lot. I get it through broker doc. Yeah so you're one of those guys who goes in to best buy looks at the flat panel. TV goes to stop right there. Selfie Southie Southie Southie Southie the pound that Selfie Selfie Matt Southie so come back Selvi so selfie Southie Southie sopheap fat black woman. I'm GONNA give you. You ought to seeing someone. Southie Southie Southie. Then car drive all right well. This sprint springs Redo a very. I feel like I just heard your instagram instagram feet. This this brings me to a very important point with when it comes to black folk. Why do you guys all pretend into no and like each other and if you do why you keep shooting each other? Why not in Ferguson? I don't what I'm saying is that's my closing big. No I was saying that. I was on an airplane with Jim Brown John and Tommy Zone. Jim Brown Davidson Tommy Davidson and Tommy Davidson and Jim Brown who are separated separated by thirty years and Twen ten thousand rushing yards literally hundred fifty pounds. They had to hug it out and I realized they don't know each the other. They don't like each other. They have to do that. Are you mocking the white man man. Because Jim Brown's a legend man you got to the point the point. We need to Brow Bank. No I told him. That's just a Yamakawa criterion is it is it. Is They stressed Yarmulke. Kufa that is I'm just curious I'll have oh. Is he still filming. What I'm saying is this? We love each other man. We love each other but but listen. Listen when I see Adam Sandler. We don't hug because I don't really know him very well. I know hugging but when you go and see black they hug you right. They want to. I'm not a big proponent of hugging I like to hug family members People Women. I'm dating and Shit. I don't WanNa Hook strangers. What happened to the handshake before cabinet? fist-bump it's just high. I don't WANNA hug every fucking body. I mean right. People are really offended ended now offer hand. Yeah how about when the guy takes the handshake and turns full where he does the thing and then he founded in sucks you shop gravity. I teach a class on how to repel the hug. Is He doc we could. We could do it here. But it's not visual but mostly for the girls ladies how you can push off positively lot of Gung Fu is involve Hock Kito Kito using the other person's power to push them the fuck away from you in a pleasant way so they keep walking and they're like damn what happened. There's a lot of different different double reverse back away push grabbing gently and ushering them out all. How are you dating now by the way? I'm don't break my heart DAG now. You're I mean first off after a look at Alice being married for fourteen months you know you know you know that feeling guys got the old ball and chain on. Yeah from age forty eight and a half to age forty nine you know what I mean just yearn to break free after all those weeks all those weeks if not being able to faulk twenty to your altar weeks once. Oh yes. I'm social social some guys that one year inch hold on with that. Who is it over seriously? WHO's over there at all Brian? You fist-bump actually I didn't I thought you fucking died at the book. I didn't get to the truth. I didn't know what happened to great i. It crime weak. I didn't think you made it. I got to the kisser part that it was too sad career. I'll spoil the ending for you. You don't perform a my benefits. You look good. I didn't know who the fuck that was. This is awesome. You watched hard knocks training camp. Oh fucking love this show baby. I had a great. I had a great moment last. I I I had a little buzz going. It was the end of the night. The kids had gone to bed Lynette got up the kitchen about eleven thirty at night. She was walking past the Dan and it was right during the part where the special teams coach love. You and I don't know who that brother is. But he's fucking you haven't earned the right to ask me and then he does the thing which I'm sure these guys love which is the magic of of digital replay where they can see guy almost like. It's an extended dance version of him missing. Just missing a block doc in perpetuity over and over again now back in the days when they had filmed film would burn up. Like bucket. Bulb would burn through the bill. If it only you know you could vince. Lombardi could only show a guy fucking up like two times in black and white but this is high def and a guy getting burned that a laser. Here's are being blocked with a fucking laser pointer and he says fucking laying into everybody into in that room and I just pulled and and I said that's why I like people that play football because they're fucking used to getting yelled at. That's why you were dumb ass 'cause you doing shit the what you WanNa do it. How did that work out fucked up and the player goes what's your way next time because they don't work your mother Fucker do it? My Way yes cove keep going. I love what I in your fucking perfect catastrophe. What I tell you about the standing naked Dave Up? That's disrespectful like how he put. That's disrespectful. I'll wait a minute. Wonder Whoa wait a minute. Wait a minute you let your team down due sitting there too man fuck you down. He turns guys bad stance into a personal attack on him. And then Mama left you because you'll oh damn feet you would move. The black bitch like told her she couldn't have got the house that's disrespectful. I love it when he starts talking about. Why is he wasting his time telling you what to do? You're not gonNA live. The best part is a previous episode. They're they're you know. Had A man talk and shit smoking cigars and he goes you got. Ah Vice all trust motherfucker without no place you got having liquor pornography something. You don't have a vice. You got dead bodies in your basement. This dude is like Yoga. Can I tell you that when I did an episode assode of Best Damn Sports show on on Fox about seven eight years ago. When my boxing movie the hammer came out they they said Oh? You know what's going to be funny. We'll do a segment. Where you and Brian Cox? Brian Cox is the scariest man in or out of the NFL. He here's a great middle linebacker. He got traded a few times but he's just he's one of these dudes just naturally big and strong and he's meaning gene and scary now. He's what Coaching D. Line. He's doing these coaches and he's smoking a cigar. Well they said Hey. Don't don't worry we'll put on these big oversize novelty foxy boxing gloves. And you and Brian Cox can duke it out. Well I said Yeah. That oughta be funny. Me and Brian Cox Duke it out with these huge gloves. That are just the size of pillows. You know all right. How much damage could be done? Well you know they don't tell you they don't tell you that in order to keep that glove on your hand. There is a wooden handle inside of a sawed off off. Mop Handle that you slide up your arm and then you grab all the padding is at the end but if you're just throwing Tomahawk chops at the top top of my head like Brian Cox. Doing I'm simply getting hit by X.. NFL linebacker and a wouldn't plunger on top of my fucking looking ahead. You being bludgeoned yes. It was basically Rodney King and reverse admit you deserve. I should have set on fire after that. But I'm saying good. He was coming down on me and bludgeoning me with a fucking rolling pin on top of my head and he went berserk on me immediately and that was just fucking around in the studio of Foxworth. Was Your Dad those because they're so hard core. You can't go home and be like hunting. No today was fine now. I think I retire. Asked for him and they've got it. Get your feet in the right play. So you can address the stove. Got They are hard man not bullshitting. Just throw another twenty eighty five minutes on those guys because the guy the guys that are sitting in the meeting room are somewhere between dead in beleaguered. They're just like tape is rolled up to the back. There had one lonely dreadlock hanging out from the fall cap just there before they got to the Aso but it was the scene before he's like on. Oh so they don't WanNa work all I deal with them tomorrow. He was real smooth hockey. Today is the next thing was with the film footage. It was beautiful man. Can you imagine if that's your father. And he filmed you getting high bank in the car and this motherfucker right there. Bam Pollen driveway. Then later on they had some three hundred pound guy running gas and it was funny because he run down onto the ad and he'd come back and his helmet would be missing. And then you run back the end and come back in a shoulder pads or offie lost article of clothing. And here's this. You say you ain't gotTA worry you'll be here long you're going to be at ups next week anyway. That's tough love all right but don't well we don't we want our son's experience a little that just to have a little intestinal fortitude. I mean what's the honest at just being a full US US museum opposite all right Brian. We have a house for my stance pretty good man pretty good address audience. Okay okay address. Arms don't lock your knees. Don't like it knees. Go hands off your hip feet right right right front. You want to be able to push Chris Graham Okay here's on our side. You Okay Amigo. The toilet seat day the one that dreams are made of stop wiping and start washing people. Take care of yourself. I got one of these things man to my bathroom. My office I hit every day. This thing works. All I'll say. Is this about Amiga You'll you'll never go back once you get that Amigo. You'll be bummed out when you travel you. Stay in a nice hotel. Because it doesn't have the AMIGO toilets. Even they had a wireless remote note and mounted on the wall. Right there push that button man. Quick and easy to you can self install. You don't need a plumber or an electrician plug it in tied in. It's easy to do for better health and hygiene stopped by wiping. Start Washing through the wash first and then to dry yourself off off a little bit warm water by the waking the temperature and everything get ten percents off your order at my Amigo dot com slash Adam. That's my I am Y.. O. M. G. DOT COM slash. Save ten percent. It is a game changer. And that was DAG. Is Brian Cox riffing with Adam. Back in two thousand fourteen now before dad comes back on the show I you know I will say this. I think he will. Oh I do too. Yeah there's no doubt in my mind. Actually he's he'll be back all right before we get going this next to the bone. Remind everybody that Adam Karol as a new book coming out on your emotional support. Animal navigating are all woke no joke culture. It's available for preorder now so you go down Kroll Dot Com and get the book and support. The man really does help mount and I hear an audio book is also going to be coming up pretty soon to keep. Your eyes is peeled both both yes and There's always look there's always a little extra content whichever when you get so. Make sure to check above above now this next clip. This is from two thousand seventeen. There is a college basketball coach. Whose name is Tony then? It just so happens that Jay Moore was in studio and he does a great Tony Bennett impression. Not the same one yet hilarious because because they are combined. It's a merging of two Tony's. Doing Your Soda. It's Tony Bennett. We all know. But if he was the Tony who coaches college football adam girl. Show twenty one forty nine j more Russ Roberts Gina Grad. Brian Bishop this aired in September. Two thousand seventeen the first time Jay coach Tony Bennett. Check it out. Have that scene from the specialist stolen. How `Bout Weissmuller and we need we need the a scene from the specialist where he's talking to Oh we're looking at Tarzan. That looks like Bill Hader Daddy Donny. Weissmuller they named Tarzana after Tarzan and take a toss Anna droopy themes like you'd be singing about Tarzana instead of Rosanna. I like the thing about chats. Where usually thinking about Amateur Code Chad film then Chatsworth? Well they needed boo. LAY leader Double a ball of a ball granted Mu Oh by the ball or the old switcheroo they think owned the blue and then they ignore the lady and the husband you invention. Hey I know the character has been done a thousand times turn if lifestyle. That'd be dog but this one is the best version I've heard who else does that Assar. Now no nothing endo does. The alternative is no. I'm putting my flag down this and that's all had someone in her high school class overdue and alternative lifestyle. Droopy spacey does good almost everything but yeah you wouldn't. Brian actually full the time. What if dog did ball Brian? That sound like either legacy my reflecting back you hit now. We know who's where I need. New Tags apparently apparently you doing ball. Drying Bruegel fee about uh-huh maybe needed nice bomb. All right get ready with the news. Gina Gina Grad. I am dying to find Rod Steiger because I just feel like you will purchasing the movie right Rob's Rod Steiger. It's at least we could do all join join here great I can make it very quick. Buddy Hackett told me Marlon Brando told him about Rod Steiger from on the waterfront in the back of the car when he goes I come Ontario Ontario and he goes. Oh Charlie now Lama Bum. He hated Rod Steiger's so much. 'cause that movie's fascinating because it's like Karl Malden Brando or new. The new acting of just like the next guy to throw beer bottles going to get punched in the nose like he's the cool priest and brand just like borrowing emoting a little bit plays licensed Steiger's locked like half the cast locked into that. I'll tell you something else. Fellow right everybody around the country to crickets making that rhys right and and then in the back seat he hated Steiger so much when he goes. Oh No it was. Because he hated with Rod Steiger was saying the way he was acting and he goes. No no now yeah. It wasn't about the dialogue. It was book he hated Rod. Steiger's acting like Rod. Steiger was a major ager movie star for many many years at the very end ended up with stallone and James Woods. And and and and Eric Roberts putting on a crazy Cuban accent and maybe one of his last roles in the specialists and it's it's always I look forward to that day in my career with sly fly. No not now for me. No I'M GONNA end up playing like the coach in a reboot of saved by the Bell L. and I'll be like coach. Lame Lehman and I'll be seventy three and I will go down in history as Adam. Curle Corolla Yeah. He played coach. Lehman right even remember Joe. He'd make us jokes about his fallen arches. And that'll be any. That'll be the only thing anyone could take it under the arches. Not My fallen are killing me. Big Laughs K.. It'd be a Sitcom maybe three camera. Mahadevi it'll be what agnes moorehead was to us. I'm sure she was on her of the stage back in the day in a legitimate Broadway actresses of Out that was his mother-in-law that was really good point like You know Norman fell like Ocean's eleven. You're right right. Norman Powell as the cookie neighbor from. Three's company Roper Roper Right. He'll end up as Mr Roper. Little of it is the era you end up in the seventies. It's a real disaster Mr but I'm love to know like the greatest example of that sort of major talent when they're in their thirties and forties ended up a sitcom mom in the eighties. And that's all they ever really get credit for. I mean there. There are a thousand examples. But I'm trying to think more has a big one and this is something had I known own coming in I. I would have had like probably four specific to my childhood but Orson Welles was ended his career very ignominiously as the voice of a transformer the bad transformer animated films Unicor on social the point that they didn't even know what he was doing. He came home on one of his last like like recorded things he said to someone like Oh what are you working on these as orphans like I place a horrible robot that does horrible things to other horrible robots uh-huh. I was seven years old making out later in life. Like Oh Orson Welles. The the guy who was the voice of unit chromos is also citizen Kane Rosebud that altron bad boss. That's a pretty good. For example from transformers fall often gracie I think used to do like Gallo wine commercials meltdown. Wine uh the meltdown online is doing something for ps every June. He's show me how to make this work and I'll go down on you. This is impossible impossible copy. And it's like you have June. You have a picture of people harvesting piece. That doesn't make any sense. Try to you're gonNA tell me driving says the shot of peas were Ilia I. We'll see if we can find that The man to tiger. He's got that great rent and the January man. You Ever Win an academy award. I bet he did. No now. You gotta find out what he did after the specialist so I think he also and other. Oh who was in soil and green. There's another like a guy increase decrease people know his side kick was like an old Humphrey Bogart Humphrey bogart like an Old Tiger One now not g rob Edwards Robinson. One of his last movies was soiling green. Just weird they're getting the seventies. I liked it when the Ten Commandments. Yes that was a great casting won an Oscar just actor for for in heat of the night absolutely terrible insecure okay Sydney. PORTIA is bad. And how many movies did he do after special vitamin let's do a little news and Gary will fine call. Aw Gino breaks all those crazy trump's casinos ban gene the news with Gene Grad for the first time in about four years. Richard Simmons may come out of seclusion and L. A.. Judge scheduled a Wednesday morning. Hearing in the fitness Gurus lawsuit against the National Enquirer two summers ago the tabloids front cover story claim that Simmons was transitioning into a woman named Fiona they they wrote cemented undergone gender reassignment surgery including breast implants hormone treatment and consultations. Yes I don't know if she goes fast but it is we do gender reassignment or they have assignment now. This is the first time hearing it as assignment assignment reassigned lady. There's an interesting sort of loophole. Twist to this so to this day. Richardson Stolman Oh man in May. He sued the National Choir for invasion of privacy and defamation. But here's what's crazy. The tabloid filed a motion claiming. Defamation should be off the table because in their awards in these modern times being referred to as transgender cannot rationally be held by a court to impute negative characteristics. So we're not saying it's bad we're just just reporting. It will lie so we'll just change the language that you report. It's kind of an interesting argument. which is if someone told Rod? Steiger Rod Steiger's is becoming a woman he'd go with that hurts my career. But then you have Caitlyn Jenner. WHO's probably made more sense this proclamation and you can no longer? I say hurts any more than you could say. I guess you couldn't say gay or lesbian so much would hurt your career It's kind of it's an interesting. I think counter counter argument that hey in this times. We're living in the city we're living in. That's not gonna be the one that's bad and we're not right. You WanNa hear Rod Steiger Egger Jay Moore of course thank you know what the chief of police work with us on the problem memo. I'll say former employees the Shea and here's an explosive explosiveness for it and I think he come be a big out. I don't know this is becoming very public and I'm sure you WANNA keep a little profile. That's Todd Steiger's younger. I made that out the hard for you. Know what I mean. I'm alive in keeping a low profile. I'm GONNA tweet about the President Fifty Years James. James say that I'm the one you can trust. Which is the main word here? James Dean are the best in the world really well. I hope that's true. I love her. I WanNa Herod's dire one more time. Just take it from there picturing. The business is no forget that saga was in several more films In the next almost decade he was in Mars attacks tax. He was number one in hurricane. Jerry Maguire came out of Washington right. Sorry wait yes no sorry. You're the judge. And he's Awesome Schwarzenegger Film. He worked a lot and he must've has to work until he was in his eighties when he passed away. We'll never with a great Cuban accent that OP center with Tom. Clancy the specialist. Strange and Columbo episode. All right let's keep going all right. Well Today's American Dad is slightly older than DADS from decades past according going to CNN the average age of a father of a newborn in the United States increased from about twenty seven and a half to thirty one between nineteen seventy two and two thousand fifteen. Meanwhile a little bit more have a breakdown. Asian American Dad's of Japanese and Vietnamese. Mostly we're the oldest fathers on their ages horse because they're the most successful when you put that stuff off your more successful exactly earlier you do it. The less successful your group is yep upwards of thirty six years old when they have their newborns warns more years of Education of course also correlated with fatherhood happening at an older age during this forty four year study period. Typically Fathers With college degrees are just over thirty three. I have a baby. All these last movie was pool. Whole Junkies remember Christopher Walken? which if you guys find that is is maybe the best speech by walking ever a good movie better than James Woods and the specialists when he went into the Miami bomb squad division and told them how it was done? Because we've seen that one and that was pretty awesome. I'll give you the first two sentences And says you told me you ever watch those nature shows on the cable see. You don't want them out the lion that I got that way. I brought this. This is my ringtone. Every morning I wake up to watch those nature documentaries on the cable questions oft stories you see the one about lions yeah lion. He's the King of the jungle. Uncle huge main. He's land down on Retrea Jay. He's so big so ought to move now. Little Lion comes start messing with him. Bite Nistan L. by museums. He doesn't do anything enhanced. She starts coming in trouble. Still nothing no the other animals they know us this nice thought move in the jackals Anush Bark and laughing at them toes and eat the food. That's his domain. They do this and I get clawson classroom boulder. On till one day the lion gets up impairs entails the And everybody wants eats everything in his path because every once in a while the lion has to show the JACKALS jackals is too. Who Late be scared? Kill me wrong you come out with all right. You got to recreate that entire so so good. Better than Rod Steiger on helium. Now that was awesome. You want to do half that but I've never seen that movie dispatch or the specialist. I have behind my eyelids like Clockwork Orange they throw them open tattooed. Insides what am I. Close at Eric Roberts with an almost almost mullet going. What are you a fan? What happened Charlie? What did she rob? Yo- did you smack around. Eric Roberts Disgrace Roberts. Eric Roberts is great because back when they made movies were guys had to be an asshole. An asshole twenty four seven like keep coming to his house and kick cast. You just had to do it and the Pussy was looking. That's like He. He saw he saw stallone like looking talking atom on the sidewalk and he stopped. The car gets out of the CAR. Everyone always forgets how buffs alone is in real life. If you saw a real tough guy standing there little less. He comes around walks around gets in his face like say he stabbed seven times a week if that person actually actually existed because buff guys. You're standing on the sidewalk in eyeballing you. They have their own space. You invade ten day tend to kick your ass. That's why nobody bothers. I mean you a man they just bug ray raise a skinny guy. That's right randy. Puff towed we doing. We're we're not brad guys. Yeah not rap Max. I can't twelve grabbed. I'm I'm drunk the you can't no but you can throw a lot of weight around the pyramid. You started one thirty five. You got like one. Eighty five six or seven times and then like to twenty-five I jacked twice. They'll just put it back on. What do you put on the hack slide? These days actually ended up to eight hundred pound. mcvay testaverde's strong really Brung player with the jets odd metric for strong you. Are you better watch out. He's a Cillian. We'll cut you off. Feed with sauce had a lot of lower lower body on on fading speed bodies gene. Hit that yeah. No my hands I'm talking about is wrong. I'm tripping on molly rubber short for the last two hours before I got any. I'm glad to see you look good. She was all over me but you know what she's a virgin. She don't do nothing and she does. A good kid else. Get Care. Yeah maybe it can hook up. I mean Gina. Well yeah I like to sleep. That's my new thing sleep. Wake them up. Oh ooh hammered the wrong bedroom but don't keep him out Shaar. Let's get going. Well you guys you just fall asleep next to him. And then in the Middle Asleep crepe slave crepe sexual assault some people call it rape not you not a good girl where you call it sleep grape. Yeah so you want to be a beggar. We'll go ahead get involved. Yeah but how do you how do you get into bed with him in the first place and you go like. Hey Daddy's home they're like what are you doing my father my father daddy but I'm on my brother used to it all right right right what time take time it is usually about two forty five. Am Yeah that's weeknights. Yeah trying to get ready to get into it he goes. I don't even know who's House that says. This is your sisters our well. We all know whose house already working Randy Am. I work in a little bit. I'm doing carpeting in carpentry. I thought that was kind of weird right. It's done. They're pulling my leg new carpeting where you want me to be because I still got the van with the wolf from a side window. come up the carpet diarrhea like you know. What if you WANNA do jokes? Talk to Ace. Ma'am I was up north doing plasterwork and Plaster Vail. It's just not the same but I left my the center. She laughs she did know more. She gave birth sent out the window center. This is where the Guy Australia just kind of out. Now we don't local locally. They like it when I said cold as the other guy he was like. Oh I know what that is right right choice in here. You can't roller one joint. Set up two hours as acting raspy voice. That's why he's on a pod short in the pond. Don't ever buy grass. It takes three hours to clean it on a black album. Cover like back. I'm like body. Good just get. I'll take some seed. Let me get Outta here. I got Portuguese girl. Mind Shit you don't mind shake I don't care what it is. As long as they they get the win heroin or snowboarding or drink and party atom bomb me now but you kind of everything. I do everything I got. You know like where Louis I o I bill sammon towns bottles James. I'm like well those are my dui lawyers. Let's get garland Andy. He's got the van with the Wolf sicker on well. Yeah people don't know what the sticker you kind of blowing my gosh sorry Latina girls. They liked paint with his hands into a wolves lynnwood. Yeah yeah download with the ESA. Ross out the window. Who's that guy you don't have now now used to have a Camaro with the thrush Muffler Woodpecker with the cigar hanging out of his mouth? That's when I got my fourteenth. Dui Derek Fisher. We rolled holded. We're GonNa Matt Barnes House take shots at old eighty. Oh Man. It's like Fast Richmond. Highway Palisades high. We picked up the way. He's like. Ah I want to go for guys. That's smart rainy. Doing Amazing Forest Whittaker. Yeah you didn't prepare me shree go. Would you'd have to do something else for way out. It's amazing so randy You're you're probably really impress. You're doing a little work. You're working the cardinals I can. I've been fishing off to Venice. Purana mackerel oh you fish enough. They say this mercury and donate it's got mercury and I'm like well I can eat fish. Got a Malibu Ninety four miles south. Also there's all this mercury poisoning. It's tied it's going to go everywhere. But what do I care about mercury. We have smoke crack. Listerine like Margaret was going to affect me. Yeah you're right you know what I'm sober now by the grace of God. How are you sober? Well no way but yeah. I don't do anything man I'm clean. Judge might be listening so I'm judged Tora our rarely yeah I got hooked me up with him. Big Mama got all knows ocean. She's got all she takes care of you as well. He's Tony Bennett's cousin big. Oh sorry right coach Virginia Cavaliers not the singer right. Oh different guy. Coach of the Virginia Cavaliers had a heart attack during the tournament. Like many he took a knee Like ooh ooh take him out and he was trending on twitter. I get well get well. Oh my God into it. Tony Bennett tweets. Hey I'm okay everybody. I'm healthy as a horse. I'll see you at the theater Friday night. And they got like thirty thousand retweets. His next tweet was my heart. goes out the Nancy Sinatra and the loss of Frank Juniors forty re tweets all. How what are we go to zone coverage and if they get up six? We're going to go man again. Sixty minutes to help somebody to box out fundamentals fundamentals. Lowering your hips That's your rebound. Go get it houses. Twenty second timeouts coach twenty. Second time out. I just want to tell you guys I love you and thanks for Remembrance Kamran now. Please tuck in shirts Outta want. US Run wind sprints team seconds. It's a one point game why you're worried about the time now. The referee really me a Lotta money. So just do me a favor go to the rack. You're going to get the foul called coach. Paul can you donate your free. Throws you're GonNa get get thank you. Everyone Italian handwriting love it better basketball coach three. I love it. No guy players like to be a place goes I treat you like men. I expect you to be untying football ways basketball player. Let's go to the twenty two personnel. I WANNA jumbo to Tannen to run back to protect tip. If he's out his back you can't throw I love it I love that whereas Oj Howard. WHO's hair is his pubic hair? Tony Bennett's pretty pubic or Who's the black professor? That goes on. Bill Maher yes cornell was like I don't know if you closed your eyes and had had to just put your hand it's Pubic Cornell West or Tony Bennett. I said you just close your hand. You gotta put it on this little tiger woods. I am one hundred percent convinced. The the Cornell West Harris real kit is the same percentage for Tony Bennett I took a trip on a train and I went to the store to get the elastic bands for my house. It saying with Lady Gaga. She's a wonderful young lady and I remember when we're recording. She said something and I said I can't you. Eh whatever periscope and somebody will just tweet like Tony Bennett. Doing van Halen. I the only band. I'm stumped on his bad brains. It's impossible but Tony Bentley. Manhandling Tony Bennett Doing Pearl Jam. And it's like this weird on. I mean I've gotta gotTa Bend Guy. Got It dead Ed. I'm all for teacher little girl from Jerry Loan. How could you be so bold? Didn't know the golden rule the better like what he lay down. Take off your top. I swear to God I if you don't run the right slant route and takes a while aalto develop don't get jumpy. Let it wash clear out. There is going to pick set for you. Just have you handled. Tell me tell me the the great thing about my government's he catches a lot of bad examples. The great thing about Vincent Jackson he catches a lot of passing traffic. Been Devon's catches a lot of passes and traffic. I'd like to know why is always in traffic. There's a reason he's in all my seperation routine Jameis Winston at the crab black buffet team. I love it. I love Jay Moore. I'm a huge is. I Love Cornell in West by the way I ask everyone does but he pubis poodle hair if you closed your eyes. I'm looking. I'm looking to be diverse. Racially coaches like Clemson. Forty years ago like all right. He looks like an old. SEC coach there. Where does he wearing bike? Shorts with the double snap on it if they ever panned out. What are you taking me all? That's my motivational podcast. Let me tell you you wonder with my man. Let me tell you. Can't you get the book coming out. Yeah I can't wait first GYCO. Everyone's got the to do list how. `Bout you add. Save hundreds of dollars on car insurance. You don't have to go anywhere. Screw GEICO DOT COM fifteen minutes could be saving fifteen percent or more on your auto insurance appearance. You take that extra money put in your pocket save for a rainy at GEICO DOT COM GEICO DOT com. Spent a couple of minutes. Find Out. 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What is now known as the raw tomatoes game but the time they're really going with rotten refresh the rotten tomatoes bagels game which is like? It's like a catch phrase name for a fresh tomato which I don't really mind either way. AMC Adam Cruel show twelve twenty one Niccolo matchy elsom rose and Brian Bishop December of two thousand thirteen. It's a second time. They play the game with Matin studio. People have been begging for more ron refresh so instead just putting random ones in we put in the last one and we put the first one that figured this pop. Mount Order just put him in order to see what they've played like making fun of old widey. Because I've done the math on old whitey. One day we're never going to be young Puerto Rican. I know we'll be old whitey. When the average I think we can point the finger at the old old? I'm just saying let's get the focus off for making fun of the old white males temper that this is not working out all you. White dudes out there with a testicles God willing some day that hill speeding right for trees are dumb will be that on day. I know it's focused. On the young female Puerto Ricans. Okay all right all right from this day on on just putting that out there to everyone. WHO's listening WHO's white keeps making fun of old Whitey? You're you're gonNA be old Whitey. One day. How about rich Old Lady? We make fun of rich old one would be rich may be rich. You know. Yeah I've seen those lottery commercials. Poor Haggard is going back to a shitty apartment young woman of looking through the people. She got him a couple of fucking looking scratchers. Those fucking lottery ticket commercials fast forward eight seconds when the guy scratched off three cards and then throws him in the fucking garbage and walks away shaking his head right cracking a beer show the end of the commercial with a person scratches the fucking thing off and goes to boot and a fucking lucky charm and a snake and fuck this and any throws it away show that fuck and part of commercial fucking corrupt assholes got damn commercials. Sorry where were we meant. I The quiz quiz sure. Oh wait a minute wait wait we gotta theme on Forgot About Matt. I've forgotten people on twitter. Going crazy game. I'm tired we need. We gotTa Snug Barry. I The love that Song Radio All right so gary is gonNA keep track. We'll find out how far we are on the critics. Not The top credit just credit enough credit rotten tomatoes and again you could win one round by two points but you could lose the next one twenty and you'd be down eighteen. So we'll combine the scores awards the aunts and aggregate score. Garrett is all right so in honor of his appearance in out of the furnace this week. We're going to go through. Woody Harrelson underrated. Housing's something's all right first up one of the ones that really got him a lot of notice. Nine hundred ninety two white men can't jump speaking underrated Yeah not a bad film was saw that I would see bits and pieces of it on cable all the time. They always pop that thing up. I don't know if it's Grantland if somebody did a great history of that yeah love stories about it. It's a funny thing because it became part of our language it was sort of A. Where's the beef sort of thing? I'm going to seventy two percent. I'll say say seventy five. I think this is the wall. Reviewed movie seventy five. I'm going eighty eighty the answer seventy seven. Oh Wow right in there was into game wins in the game here. We go all right next up. Nineteen ninety-six do a little comedy with the Farrelly brothers kingpin now. This is a funny movie hilarious movie the IRA underrated. This is on gene. SISKEL top ten of the year that year. This is a really good movie. Don't like it's a really good movie. Well it's the kind of movie that's it. We thought was really funny and it was a really funny movie. But I don't know what the critics I have no idea what the critics they brian you go i. I'm right down the middle fifty percent. I said this is a very divisive movie. I'm with you on that but I'm still going to bump it up a little. I will go fifty fifty seven percent I wrote seventy seven and then crossed it out and rose sixty seven. So I'm going seventy two. Brian is dead on the percent. Wow still all things Pretty Pretty well knotted up audience seventy percent. This is a funny remove certain movies where I have to. I WANNA slap the audience around critics around a little like Griego like luck. Hey critics critics who you see. A lot of comedies right. What percentage of them are better than kingpin? Like just have more and then you know what I hate the review on a comedy movie. They you go sure there was a lot of laughs but I had what it didn't fix a leak in your transmission. Sure there was a lot of laughs. That was enough. That's enough it's a fucking fucking comedy question for you. How much are the is this based on reviews at the time versus people coming back later both so reviews usually we could find from the time but any review critic reviews it now than that counts? There are certain movies that you could tell had an an old older feel to them in their view because historically have gotten better movies. I don't know like slapshot stuff. That just gotten better throughout the years all right one one negative review we have for wizard of Oz from somebody at the time. That's so like the. The negative reviews tend to be closer to the release of an older movie because when people look back on it with rose colored glasses all right here we go okay. Controversial movie directed by Oliver Stone. Natural born killers. It's tough Alison. You gotta go. I now seventy nine. That's a little high. There's just too much going on in this film to like a lot too. Not like probably be turned off by. I'm going to say this is more in the sixty sixty eight percent okay. I wanted to go right down the middle to because this is a really divisive movie at the time. But I'm going to go up for the Oliver. Stone factor sixty you are still clauses forty eight percent through UN under fifty percent or fifty percent. Yeah a lot of people really. She didn't like it written by Quentin Tarantino ridden story from Quentin Tarantino a modified right Barbara. Heavily Modified Tino itself doesn't really like the movie so the reactions were all over the place. A couple years later Director Miles Forman. Same Guy who director one flew over the CUCKOO's nest autodesk's the people vs Larry Flint. fucking tough is a really good movie. It is a really good orange greatness. Courtney love our love goodness all right. I'm going to say fuck didn't like this movie. Eighty six percent. I think it was up for best picture for sure was up for best actor. So I'm GonNa say Eighty Fuck Doc until I say eighty three I wrote it down. I was GONNA say sixty five I feel like I'm wrong but I'M GONNA go with anyway. The closest Adam Corolla eighty seven percent off. You were so close. I was GONNA say eighty-seven but my last guest with fifty Eh. Stop saying seven my instincts. All right all right. What do we have final one? Final One two thousand nine directed by the Disaster King Roland Emmerich two thousand twelve. Oh he was in yeah remember he was the crazy dude that trailer on the radio. No I don't remember I remember birtwell talking about and was near. Yeah also starred John Cusak. Amanda Pete's Oliver Platt's Danny any glover. The thing I couldn't I couldn't wrap my mind around with that movie and I've only seen it twenty six times the thing I couldn't figure out about that movie was Q.. Sacks license it was the movie we gotta find it brought it up on the show show before but the movie took place in like two thousand eleven or thirteen or something or or twelve. Two thousand twelve dollars sorry stupid. I'm sleep deprived the movie. Two thousand twelve at some point Kuzak pulled out his license and it said on his license that he was born in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy nine. That would make him younger than me. Here why y you're the art department. You gotta you gotTa make up a license for Kuzak back to at the time. The movie came out. Two thousand twelve was only a couple years off Kuzak when he made the movie was forty. Forty four. Why have younger than you need? Here's my point that Kuzak say I want to be young. He had the two kids. Have you ever met him. He was divorced now. I have a sneaking suspicion. He's very obsessed with seeming younger than he is He used to go on he went on. MTV MTV TRL when the top five list movie came out though high fidelity so out of place like trying to relate to the teenagers and it was like is he. Ah Is he wanting to. I don't know anything to do with this. But it feels like he wants to be a lot younger. Well you're playing a divorced father of two you you can be good your normal age right. It would seem the best choice for the character and a struggling author as well. You can be that movie movie. Had One of the fucking worse messages. Oh who who director again rolling on Amer fucking guy in the nuts. Yeah Stay Dancer Tomorrow. That whole movie got so cool. High Spoiler alert that movie was about the powers powers that be knew that the basically the end of the world was coming out the whole world was going to be covered in water seawater and two thousand twelve so they were building the giant arcs. Essentially and if you're amongst the elite you could buy yourself a place on that arc meaning if you had a whole bunch of like if somehow you could help finance the we were Damon. Do this movie. We're whereabout fracking thing. If we were if we were aware of this you go look honey a year from now. There's going to be nothing but water here sell the house. Sell the cars cash in the stocks. Do everything pay five million dollars and we'll get a room on this arc and that there's it's building in the Himalayas. They're building them in the Himalayas but at the end of course all the all the heroes were saying why can't everybody everybody. Get on the ARC. This arc shouldn't be it should. It shouldn't be close to the poor and it shouldn't be closed. It should be art forever. Well Oh okay. I'll tell you the problem. I off the fucking arc. Wouldn't get built if the rich guy did not give the money to build these huge super expensive are. That's that's why the arts exists number one number two there's not enough fucking room on the Ark for all the poor people and number three. I want the super educated super rich people. People going off to start the new world fucking poor people with zero education. That's me so so marex shopped the old open the art. Everybody everyone piles on the Arkansas. How about the fucking people paid for the Arket to be on the fucking arc? Play some games a little batch. That's what I'm saying fucking message. Why can't ever want to be on the fucking arc? Okay all right Ryan. You're the leader. Okay so I'll go first. I wrote down forty then crossed it out thirty eight then crossed it out so I'm going to thirty three thirty. Three's going with very savvy v because our only choice is to get at least fifteen off a ball Brian. I would think Gary running tally. Okay Yeah it's a good fifteen maybe more I feel like I'm like one hundred off. Yeah you're pretty close on a couple. I think I'm going thirty nine okay. That's a horrible strategy. I know but I don't I can't figure out in pride get in way member ving rhames is talking about that. Oh fine fine little choice. No I adjusted. I wrote fifty four. And then across Sandra forty eight and then I brought it Ding feeling a deal. So what do you got thirty-three Brian Finding a forty eight forty eight all right. I'm still not sure that's going to work. mathematically I'm I'm going to go like fifty two or thirty two. Wouldn't that be a good a smart bet for you. I'm I'm sure it is in the thirty ish range but I'm not interested in getting close. 'cause I gotTa Win by I gotTa get I gotTa pick up fifteen points here so I'm either going to say I'm either GonNa save forty eight okay or if if you take the same score or okay or or I'm going to go down and go more the eighteen range yes I try and nail it. I think I'm going to go down and that's smart I'm going right. So what are our final choices. Eighteen thirty three thirty nine the final score two thousand twelve eight thirty nine yet. Good one else thank you long. Thank you questioning my non-strategy all right but you only picked up six on ball Brian. That was the problem right. Actually forty eight one. Exactly right. I got one right and I'm modified my WanNa make myself wrong aright final. Oh Shit I just fill out a second place with my crazy. Granted actually tiebreaker. We need it all right bald Bryan. Twenty four wow adam fifty four. Jesus fucking thirty. Oh I threw threw away from right combined total away from all the corrupt but before I made my crazy hail Mary. You're thirty three gas. I was I was Sydell. I was at thirty three so I was. I was in that range where I was seventy. Brian takes again all right all right. Let's bring it home. Do we have the always the bridesmaid. I do enjoy that game. It doesn't matter playing rotten afresh. which is now known as the rotten tomatoes game that we play weekly on the show and what I love about the game shows? It's timeless. You could say long and I hope you prove that when you pull out of the show. It's actually perfectly removable. Usually nine to eighteen minutes. It almost be great thing to put it up on Youtube. If you had the video of all these these shows because recording most of these or even put up audio with a picture there's really great bite sized chunks of the show and for people who are fans of it I didn't they would just let it play all day. Yeah right they'll do for Corolla classics. We have one more show for the year tomorrow. Branding it on a high note to make sure to tune in feel bill then manage Chris Locks amount that superfan. Giovanni I actually have cuts all my fingers because of Tony Bennett preparing love line tape. Jimmy Kimmel style hobbies Etape Occa- rock and they had to cut up with razor blades. Cut Myself Pieces so. I'm not happy with Tony Bennett right now. I don't get it on.

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