25 Burst results for "Tonkin"

SRM The Talk Of Crypto

The Trader Cobb Crypto Podcast

02:44 min | 8 months ago

SRM The Talk Of Crypto

"Talk of the town at the moment crypto anyway has certainly been the FT xt five project listed cold serum s. e, U. M. S. Ram on the Tonkin listening and Yet listed in its sitting a dollar forty five at the moment it listed at fourteen cents. Can you believe it now did shoot up pretty damn quick. So yet be join the spot to get your order Philip Fourteen cents but that's a straight up Tannock's wrought. They're so good money was might have not by many that will working on that it was a light not eleven thirty PM and their Todd. Dip I'm togs look fivethirtyeight Duma walk but I feel Good money was mine. and. That's what we do. We make money we focus on what we know and we stick to it and we tried and we do. Well, that's the goal anyway, and of course, the rest of the market while we saw a bit of a sad sack face on the old bitcoin loss, not of course, before we get to Bitcoin on one of the touch on a gold and the reason wanted to touch on gulled. Is quite simply because it kind of a very large amount lost not. You know we fell five point six percent on goal and Bitcoin felt the same time. Now, what does that mean like correlation was a don't really know we did see the the Dow come off a little bit. It's a tiny bit the S. and P. as well. Two things I'm just looking to save as any correlation. In, and around they silver also came off i. a staggering fourteen percent is right there in the criminals are now it's a, it's a pullback resigns. So we'll. We say bitcoin bounce. Let's have a look at it and I'll tell you what I'm saying. Because Yeah. We currently down four point, seven percent on Bitcoin. Now, we still well and truly in the cradles this is my major issues. We've had a very strong Ron bitcoin still sitting above eleven thousand for that. Ungrateful. Was Sitting at eleven thousand, three, hundred, fifty, two dollars I said wrought. Now we've got the clothes coming up in about an hour or so. From. When you got a hold of this first up in the morning, if that's you and you know it's it's it could be an opportunity on whiting to say what Bitcoin does not looking for any trades on bitcoin right now but it is certainly has had that little little pullback a theory of down now five percent three, hundred, seventy, six dollars, and twenty seven cents guy that consolidation continues as does very similarly to Bitcoin we are in and around that cradle four hundred also k. mock on theory at the mine off the white and say what goes on once again on not really. Looking for any particular trades road now I'm more sort of looking at it. From the point of we're to break down sort this consolidation and we're gonNA break up

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Who should replace Ellen?

Who? Weekly

08:22 min | 9 months ago

Who should replace Ellen?

"News is ongoing. Generous. Ongoing News that won't stop are one nemesis might be replaced by our other nemesis. On their talk show the Ellen show. Well, these are that this is them news, but I do feel like Ellen could be replaced with a WHO, if this all comes to fruition or like a WHO thinks so too person because I'm seeing a lot of people nominate various talk show e people although apparently the rumors are like James Corden is going to replace Ellen, but like he has a show so. That makes no sense to me on any. That's what blows my mind. Why he has eight hundred shows. He has just made another daily show like that doesn't make any sense to me at on. The also has carpool. Karaoke. And then he also has the cat sequel like he has plenty, oh. Yeah. Let's replace a supposedly nice person with another supposedly nice person like. Haven't. We learned anything from this thing. These people are Nice. They suck. I think always be wary of people who say their thing is being. I think the number, one person who should clearly replace Allen is Kiki Palmer. There's literally no. Better obvious. Getting a lot of a lot of traction and she showing up a lot of tweets because it's like she just had a talk show that got canceled for no reason on ABC. Well, it was like that one hour of Commerical Strahan. Michael? And Kiki Sarah? There was A. Third Sarah. Sarah. And Michael and Kiki It just give it to clean working it. Just everyone likes he. We Love Kiki. She's a great host. Who else do you think if if we're going if for skewing young? I think we to Kiki for skewing older, I think it should go to fucking the woman who should have gotten David Letterman, amy. Sedaris like give it to amy sedaris because people like her. She's silly. I don't know that, amy, the thing is I. Don't know that Amy Sarah's would want to do that I. Feel like. I don't need that. We're talking about this on the Patriot. If you WANNA. Go listen to that about how drew Barrymore also has daily, show a daytime show coming out, and I'm like who would want this job? Drew Barrymore wants this job since when like it's just to meal a a weird job that you wouldn't want that could turn you or probably. Turn you into a monster, right? Yes. but the to provide a context in case you've been under a rock people are like there. There have been the rumors for years and years and years, but specifically the past few months they've really you know the hit a critical mass and started being reported publicly like Ellen is an asshole to everyone. Ellen is an asshole. The people she works with Ellen makes people not talk to her ellen cruel. But now there are reports by like news and variety and insider that it wasn't just ellen being a to everyone and celebrities and not liking Ellen like being on Ellen show. It's that the executive producers were actually like being abusive like in sexually harassing the employees. So it's like a culture. Culture of toxicity. That is the sort of thing that I don't that Ellen is deciding up allegedly that she doesn't want to deal with anymore. So she's like this sucks like I just rather not do this anymore. Right. So but this rumor, this isn't this is in fact, this is rumor because people keep their keep going back and forth and saying some some sources say she's not leaving this show sums his sources as she's leaving the show. I. Can't imagine somebody as likely a annoyed with the whole situation who is known to be not a very nice person would want to continue to fake be nice and have to apologize and half to like kind of whatever because these rumors have been. Kind of like I for some reason I, keeping you Kevin Spacey Pre the abuse allegations like when everyone knew he was gay, but no one knew he was gay like it was weird thing where it was like if you knew, you knew if you didn't, you had no idea what be totally shocked it. Kind of feels like that type of Hollywood news where like everyone knew that Ellen was secretly mean except for Ellen fans who had no idea where living happily with ellen everyday of their life and like the show was wildly successful, right? very strange. A very strange thing. Do you think that this will happen because people are so bored in their craving, the Gospel, and then somebody just this is this is what I mean I, think it's I mean. It's a combination of a lot of things at one of is like the people finally speaking out about their employers. It's like finally like shutting down like the. The systemic issues and leg, not being corporate America and knowing that people will support them and believe them and believe them, and that like the media machine of Ellen isn't powerful enough to shut down. So many voices if enough come out and and we'll talk about it later in the episode, but it's like the it's similar to the. Vanessa. Morgan thing, it's it's shades of an ESA Morgan being like I'm going to speak up against the riverdale creators and the Riverdale producers because people are people are realizing that they can do that and they won't get like dumped on by the press or of their fans they will be seen as like heroes. But. It's also just like, I, Think Dakota Johnson had a tiny bit to do with it because Dakota Johnsons like Open crubaugh open open. Rudeness to Ellen SORTA. Gave People. I don't know permission to speak about rumors that she's an asshole more openly. They're like, it looks like that's what Dakota's referencing. So I didn't even know you liked me. Of course, I. Like you. You Knew I. Liked you. You've been on the show many times and don't I show like. But I did invite you and you didn't come. So this time you invited me, are you sure? How do you? I don't think. So ask everybody. Jonathan. Your producer. I was that, why didn't I go? I don't know that became a meme. You have people like Brad Garret and who else replied to him. Leah Tom's Tom's joins. She is mean she is. She. Yes. Now, I can't believe I just called the Thomson. So Deutsche US minor. That was obsessed the disease of this show right here. Yeah. Leah Thompson also respond to that and said Yep I mean, I just think that it's like no one was a true story note once you lose grip on the fear, you are the power you had over I mean, and it's funny because then you have scooter Braun coming out her being like Ellen is great. I. Love Allen is like so people still. Look at the people coming out and say L. Like scooters, hedging his bets at this, all go away and back to normal and Ellen will still be powerful and whatever, and then you have people speaking out i. just it's a fascinating reveal of a monolith almost kind of crumbling that you didn't think would ever. Be exposed like this. I didn't. It seems like Palmer is getting a lot of A lot of press over like a lot of tweets being could replace. Ellen is trending key Palmer got a lot. Tiffany haddish. Got A lot that woman who does the like trump impersonations? What's her name? Sarah? Cooper. She got a lot of people tweeting about her I mean, I think it's just bomber just someone who someone who actually. Got Some tweets booing reply Oh doodoo be from drag race also got A. Drag. Race. Got I. saw that. Yeah. But I think he palmer when you when you want someone who has like the resume as well like. You of don't WANNA, pick someone random like Sarah Cooper. As funny as she is on twitter, because like her her her skills as a as an interviewer, not proven whereas Kiki, Palmer is a link interviewer host. Yeah I mean I would say like the Ellen slots, big slot made we just move up the ladder. We get Kelly Clarkson in that slot. We get Drew Barrymore Kelly was and we get key. Palmer. Work. Curse, lot I know these are all people on different network. So it makes literally no sense but you. Better like we. We cannot confuse the audience. We must replace the Ellen show with someone named. Ellen. Ellen Ellen. Page's like don't look at me like another gay. Just like I will not I will. Zone POMPEO, she wouldn't do it. I. Don't I don't need Elon Pale. Ellen Page Ellen Popular, and Never Would Ellen Pompeo every interview Ellen Pao's ever done. It's been like I. Love Grey's Anatomy I. have nothing but free time like. She will never do that. You know who would do it. Who Ellen Barkin? Embark and all Ellen Barkin wants is a soapbox like did someone say soapbox?

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Bella twins welcome babies a day apart

Who? Weekly

01:07 min | 9 months ago

Bella twins welcome babies a day apart

"News this morning, the Bella twins had their babies eating of mix ups, 'cause they're twins. We'll. They had they had. had them in different cost, but well, the different times, different lineup, they mixed up the babies. But WHOA, that'd be crazy. They're just twins and I'm sure there was mix up. Yeah. They they member, they were pregnant at the same time for the last nine months because that's a long. You're pregnant day welcomed their babies one day apart, which is honestly so crazy that it could be because they have a reality show. It almost feels like it was scripted, you can induce. Enough about pregnancy to know you can do you think they. Use Well, I'm just saying I wouldn't put it past. These wouldn't put it past them dues although I feel like if they had actually induced, they would have induced on the same day. Can you imagine a production system from e being like? Hey. So Heineke high. You look so good. You're glowing. I imagine them on the phone with the doctor being the. Hey. So calling on behalf of. Of the Bella twins. I. Love to get this induction date induction inducement.

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Robert Caro on How He Does It

The Book Review

09:47 min | 1 year ago

Robert Caro on How He Does It

"Robert Carroll joins us now he is the Pulitzer Prize. Winning author of many books. New Book is called working researching interviewing and writing. He's also the author of the years of Lyndon Johnson four volumes of them thus far and the powerbroker Robert Moses and the fall of New York Bob. Thanks so much for being here. Pleasure to be here all right so everyone has been greatly anticipating a volume five of the years of Johnson. But instead you have written this other book working researching interviewing writing. Why did you decide to do this? Ever since the powerbroker I kept myself out of the book. I don't think the word I appears in there many times. If soon as the book came out people started asking me. What was it like ten of you Robert Moses and I realized that I should have put in something to tell people what that was like so for like forty five years. I've been hearing that question and people ask me what it's like to work in presidential libraries were. Can you find out from interviews? This isn't the adviced anybody but it's sort of. I said we'll I WANNA give people some glimpses into how I work so. I took time out to do this book now. I'm back doing the volume. I mean it's an interesting question about interviewing Robert Moses because you had read five sessions which women seven sessions with him. Which was very different from the Johnson. Biography where he was dead already for several years. Before you could get started and I'm curious you write about it a bit in working what the difference was like for you. Writing the book writing a biography of a person who was still alive versus writing a biography of someone who was already gone in one sense. It's great to write about someone who's still alive because you get to meet Moses. Didn't talk to me for the first couple of years of the book. Then we had seven interviews. Soon as I started asking questions. Pamela the interviews were over but they will long sessions and I really got to look at him with Johnson. You felt okay. I came along just too late. He had died just three years before was great about him was that he died so young he would have been only sixty seven when I started. He darted sixty four that everyone was still alive. He had I think twelve people in Johnson City High School. When he was there they were all there to be viewed. But you can't make up for not meeting and talking to the person writing about you just can't do feel that absence and working on the Johnson. Yes you do everything you can to overcome that you know you interview the people closest to him over and over and over again constantly asking them what was he like. If I was standing next to you what would I see him doing? So you try to get a feeling of him now. We have these telephone transcripts where you hear him talking hundreds and hundreds of hours you can listen to him talking and see how he deals with people and how he gets what he wants from people. That's always amazing to me. Has that changed the way that you've been doing your research having access to those types a change the writing of history in general like on the Gulf of Tonkin incident which has been sort of mystery. What really happened there. How many attacks were there? On our destroyers. You know that led Johnson to launch these launch bombing attacks on North Vietnam. Now you actually hear the communications between Robert McNamara. The Secretary of Defense Cincpac the admiral at Honolulu and the commander of the fleet. That's an in Viet Nam. You hear this and what was really going on in real time the other aspect of your interviewing that. I thought was so interesting that you write about in this new book working is the delicacy of interviews and especially when you get to touchy subjects. And they'll you didn't interview Johnson for the book did Interview Lady Bird and tell the story about how you and when you approached the subject of Johnson's longtime affair with Alice Marsh. Well when Johnson is in the Pacific during World War. Two year allowed easing Australia. You're allowed one telephone. Call the senator from Texas. Just Johnson has to decide whether to run again for the House of Representatives or to run for senator. I'm going through all the correspondents and suddenly in the middle of it. There is a telegram from someone sewing. Alice I've never heard of Alice. She appears in no book and it says Lyndon everyone else that happened to me in the White House. Everyone else thinks you should run for the Senate. I think you should run for the house. Please try to cool love Alice. I said WHO is Alice. Who was the person that he makes the only one telephone call? And who's giving political advice which he follows shortly after that? So that's you know. An example of going through the papers by luck her sister and best friend show up at the Johnson Library and ask to see me and I go down to see them and they say you know we wanna tell you about a woman named Alice Marsh. We don't want to portray to some Bimbo. She was really very important in Johnson's life. And they told me the whole story of this Lauren and significant relationship and his life. So how do you then? Ask Lady Bird. You know panel. That's the only interview I ever had in my life where I couldn't bring myself to look at the person I was interviewing. Alice was a small town girl. She turned herself into the brilliant Washington. Hostess Brilliant Brilliant Salons and she came from a little town called Morlin. Now no one would go to the mall. And unless they were looking for inflammation analysis a little town in the middle of nowhere and I never know I went up there and we learned about her. And how remarkable she was but all of a sudden we have a mutual friend. Who lived in Morlin? Who calls me in a panic and says the bird in Texas? Everybody Calls Lady Bird Bird. Bird and always. You've been in Marlin. So she knows you know about Al. Assad said well that had to be if it doesn't concern me but her secretary then shows up at my desk in the reading room says Mrs Johnson would like to see you out at the ranch this weekend. We had been meeting in her office so we sit down at the dining table. She's at the head of the table. I might her right. Hand my stenographer's notebook like like the one you use is is down on my right hand taking notes and without preamble. She starts to talk about Alice Quiz. How elegance she was how sophisticated she was how she taught. Linden things and everything that she taught him. He followed the rest of his life. You don't hear these lawn when she met him. He was this new congressman very awkward with Lorne Gang Leo Arms. She said turn them into an asset. Always wear shirts with French. Cuffs and very nice cufflinks. So when people's attention is cool to them it's called in in a in a good way. She told him. We're kind of Necktie to favor. Countess Myers Tie. But most of all at crucial elements in life. It was her advice that he followed an in a number of cases one in particular. It's not exaggerating. Very much to say she saved. His career is takes a moment to tell. But it's it's interesting his early careers financed by a very fierce huge Texas contractor. Herman Brown Brown and Root and Herman was prepared to keep financing his Roy and in return Johnson was getting huge contracts for Brown and root when all of a sudden they had a falling out Lyndon Johnson was getting them authorization to build a dam which they wanted but Linden wandered low. Rent Housing Project built in Boston in what was a very poor Mexican American neighborhood. The houses in that neighborhood were owned by Herman Brown. The tenants were paying rent to him. They were very profitable and he was enraged at Linden wanted to condemn them for his housing project and his chief lobbyist and his chief lawyer talked. Instead you know Herman was about to turn on Linden and when Herman turned on you he never turned back when Alice here is about this and invites them both down to Greatest Stadium Virginia. She sits down at her table. And says why don't you just compromise give Herman the damaging winds and the land and all of a sudden everything was okay. So Lady Bird starts talking not only about her elegance. She says the quotes are in the book. She was so sophisticated so beautiful. I remember her neck succession of wonderful beautiful dresses and me in well not so wonderful. And and then she said you know Lyndon Basically Linden always followed Alice's vice during that whole interview I have to say my head. Just stay down and I took notes. I couldn't look at her so that was done. The next week we went back to ordinary interview she just launched into it without you. Even though I you know I sometimes think I know something about politics. I'm really glad I don't have to write about. Women never understood why she did

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What exactly are 'war powers' and why is Congress voting on them?

Weekend Edition Sunday

05:05 min | 1 year ago

What exactly are 'war powers' and why is Congress voting on them?

"The United States moves with me to translate into action the United Nations call to arms against the aggressor American occupation troops in Japan are hurried to the defense of the Korean Republic combat units of the United States Marine Corps arrive in Vietnam joining other marines already there the peak in the pattern was Lyndon Johnson's Gulf of Tonkin resolution in nineteen sixty four that led to the escalation of the Vietnam War last year act of aggression directly around persons okay brings home to all of us in the United States once a restaurant of the peace and security in Southeast Asia nearly a decade later as that conflict had stretched into another president's second term Congress rallied to reassert its constitutional role good evening the Congress of the United States in a historic action today made effective a limitation on the powers of the president to make war in nineteen seventy three democratic majorities in both chambers past the war powers resolution requiring the president to notify Congress within forty eight hours when troops were sent into harm's way that legislation also required president to end any foreign military action after sixty days unless Congress had declared war or passed an authorization for the use of military force a phrase that's come to be known as in a U. M. F. since then however the law has fallen short of its author's intent in part because presidents found ways to work around it and also because Congress has shown itself willing to follow the president's lead in matters of foreign conflict there's a new war this morning in the Persian Gulf a rock turns to blood shed to settle its oil price dispute with quite a different level of difficulty arose after Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein invaded his neighbor country of Kuwait in nineteen ninety this is the seventh week of operation desert shield and now they're about a hundred fifty thousand American military in the region and the number is growing every day president George H. W. bush deployed hundreds of thousands of US troops to the Persian Gulf region before Congress had taken a vote to authorize I know what it's like to have fallen comrades and see young kids die in battle and it's only the president it should be asked to make the decision Congress did authorize that use of force by relatively narrow margins in January of nineteen ninety one and the first Persian Gulf War began just days later since then we have seen presidents outmaneuver Congress again and again president Bill Clinton in the Balkans and later president Obama battling ISIS in Iraq and Syria president George W. bush called for two authorizations for the use of military force the first just days after the terror attacks of September eleventh two thousand one I was immediately approved military action against terrorists wherever they might be and bush soon send forces to Afghanistan good afternoon on my orders the United States military has begun strikes against al Qaeda terrorist training camps and military installations of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan the following year Congress debated and approved another authorization this one focusing on a rock the debate was emotional but in the end the vote empowering President Bush to go to war with Iraq was larger than the vote eleven years ago authorizing his father to take on Saddam Hussein one or both of these measures has been cited to justify it literally thousands of drone strikes and other military actions against those the US has labeled terrorists ever since it appears the US military has launched a missile strike in a rock including the one that killed Iranian commander customs money this month a revered Ronnie in general and one of the country's most powerful military leaders is considered by the you asked to be a terrorist president trump has often describe bush's two thousand three invasion and occupation of Iraq as quote the worst single mistake on quote in the history of US foreign policy but President Bush can at least argue he submitted his request to Congress before his invasion of Iraq began trump has yet to seek congressional approval for any of his actions in the Middle East very very nearly three thousand additional American troops have been ordered to the Middle East tonight at midnight and in the latest instance in the did not even inform congressional leaders of his plans other than via Twitter he said some of his opponents among the leaders in Congress could not be trusted with the information in that atmosphere of mutual distrust it is hard to see how the founding fathers ideal of shared powers could succeed in war making or any other aspect of national

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"tonkin" Discussed on WGN Radio

WGN Radio

02:35 min | 1 year ago

"tonkin" Discussed on WGN Radio

"The funny thing when that record came out in the late nineties rain kid rock was you know one of the highest rate is one the hottest acts in America in like nineteen ninety eight nineteen ninety and you know you just kind of knew that the guy was up to no good right because the whole thing is about him being a pamp in the you know is it they have in the girls at the four seasons for all the right reasons the house I mean it was it whatever he was doing that's what that's just what he was doing the guy was kind of a little nuts the bad boy a cowboy right the cowboy rapper yeah you know it is over a generation we have a couple rapper you know sometimes you don't even know that the guy has got a Batman ask sort of to personality thing happens so now do you happen to be at the big honky Tonkin steak house in Nashville and he might have a few drinks he gets on stage and he starts getting kinda mad about of all things Oprah and then he was also mad about joy Behar and Kathy Lee Gifford and what a little hard to make that out but basically he does not like Oprah or joy Behar and you definitely want kid rock on your side and he's a cool dude he's going to get exactly and people are gonna call him a racist but not a racist but it might be a racist about rock stars from Michigan there's just a thing about rock stars to Michigan I don't know what it is who is now adopted a country accent yes like an American hockey player a developing a Canadian accent what you go up to the north woods in Michigan it's a it's it's like for a family affair of cold four panelists now you can't reminds me of the son of Ted Nugent yes trays and they'll turn into Ted Nugent and why am I waiting for Marshall Mathers to turn into Ted Nugent it hasn't happened yet but I know it's going to I let us now just close this thing up.

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"tonkin" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

01:50 min | 1 year ago

"tonkin" Discussed on KGO 810

"During the Gulf Akon Tonkin crisis has so called as you mentioned earlier August of sixty four he had responded with two days of our of air attacks now the attacks started right after piko in a continued often on actually right through the Johnson administration and the Nixon administration within napalm and all kinds of heavy bombing all right we're going to we're going to wait we're going to wait for just a moment professor because when we come back it's going to be March of sixty five and they're gonna be simultaneous tragedies building the professor mentioned civil rights and Vietnam day by day in the March of sixty five you'll see the themes of sixty five emerge and they're not happy eve of destruction is the book how nineteen sixty five transformed a map transformed America James T. Patterson is the author I'm John bachelor this is the John Batchelor show on KGO eight ten celebrate Halloween with dressed up donuts from Duncan like the spooky sweet Halloween spider doughnut trick or treat are you a little bit old to be trick or treating no this is so it's just a really good costume anyway I hear you're giving out Duncan spider donuts didn't I just see you with your kid no that was just the my friend yeah is it working Rhonda Duncan on Monday for the Halloween spider don't get ten Munchkins donut hole treats for two dollars America runs on Dunkin this page may vary let's say you just bought a house bad news is your one step closer to becoming your parents you'll probably most along and see if anybody.

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"tonkin" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast

The Lawfare Podcast

04:17 min | 1 year ago

"tonkin" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast

"Rationality statement really does make one despair, and especially when juxtaposed against the giants stake, it was made into three and I was obsessed still am by large by the Gulf of Tonkin incidents in nineteen sixty three sixty four I remember as undergraduate reading high of stone in the New York review of books written these articles about health of talk, Ken, the resolution that followed authorized war or seemingly authorized, the war ended. Opera it was clearly, it was clear. Also that liberal myth that congress didn't authorize more. You made that clear. Yes. So then the questions remained whether two incidents in the Gulf of Tonkin early one. Right. And if there was only one who knew that and win. Now, if you listen to Johnson's phone calls during that period of time, it's pretty clear to me. Johnson knew it, there was no second attack in during my interview with McNamara. I asked him. Why did you change in retrospect, he said, I didn't change from the hardback to the paperback. So I didn't change it at all. I what about the footnote on the Gulf of Tonkin said, oh, that? He said because he learned for the first time when he was in Hanoi in the nineties, the that attack had not occurred you live. It brings me to something that really deeply fascinates mates really behind all of the work that I do is self deception. Do I believe that McNamara convinced himself that he didn't know it a kind of do? But can I answer that one way or the other I find it extrordinary that he wouldn't know? So what you just said that you're a lot of films are about south deception that captures for me was great films, maybe including my own, I wouldn't exempt myself himself of we'll get to that. But you really have them they're right on the camera asking them. You only have a few shots at this, and you got it a couple of times, and it's clear when they're amping. This is true Rumsfeld more than Matt Moore, even Vince. Sometimes it's true that you ask the right question, you have American camera, and you can see in their face that either they're lying, or they don't understand that. They're deceiving themselves. And you can see it comes through, and we are all like this to some degree. But you capture that in some very important, but to nice thing to hear. I thought it was having that face right in the middle of the screen and watch every little facial expression and the cameras days, I'm no phone person. But the cameras zoomed in for a long time in the little twitches in the little, pauses at it really, if he's me that's, that's on the service throughout all this. Self-deception. Also, can we ever really know the truth? I mean that's an obvious thing but it's. So much of those two films and abandoned, poem, which will get to in a second seemed to have that the I wanna move onto Bandon if I can the van and film. So it's call this is to say what the status of it is at our understand what is the painful topic. But what is most certainly is a painful tippety my talking about knob at all. So what, what's the deal you make film? You're famous belt maker. It's great fell. What's the deal, this is called the film is called American Dharma? We'll talk about what that means in a second. But can you explain why this film has not been publicly available? I knew there was going to be trouble. I thought a routine amount of trouble, same trouble that I had McNamara film Rumsfeld film. It would be no different than kind. I was wrong. The film premiered at the Venice film festival and either the day or two days before the..

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"tonkin" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer

AM 970 The Answer

05:39 min | 1 year ago

"tonkin" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer

"Forget greatest Boyce nineteen eighty six hours together, and they just released it this morning online. What if what was doing? This was a solo album that he was putting together back in nineteen Eighty-six did not release the song so very much. Time waits for no one here. It is what, what a wonderful good fine Albert. Hey, Joe, good morning to you a lot to get into Frank. I know you're happy drones being shot down. One of you could see a press conference today. I'm predicting secretary of state. Mike Pompeo John Bolton. The president, you can't you can't just take down. First of all, is it verified? This is an anonymous source, and that they're in is not enough to start a war with that information. Wouldn't think so. I mean, we've certainly gone to war for less right Gulf of Tonkin incident, the war in Iraq. But so. There are two things that give me some solace. Maybe three one is, you know, President Trump is a non interventionist, and he has very good instincts when it comes to this stuff does many always follows his instincts. Sometimes he does get sort of side fooled, but he gets convinced by some of his advisors to take a different path. But the president is very good instincts. So I think he's going to do the right thing here too was reported yesterday that the president is talking pretty frequently with Tucker Carlson about the Iran situation and Tucker Carlson has been able to explain better than anyone. Why what we're doing is so foolish, and then three separate story. He apparently told his aides yesterday behind the scenes that they better tone, down the rhetoric on, Ron and do so in a hurry. So there's an attempt to deescalate what what's happening? The president was has been talking to Tucker Carlson. Yes. Like arts. What's being reported? Really? Yeah, I mean, you know, he frequently does that he has these folks that he checks in with decker calls knows allow. Clearly when the smartest absolute on television in any regard. And, and sometimes he makes a lot, a lot of a lot of sense where I say, take them out. Then he's why we should not do that. But at, but if they shut down the Joan, you gotta be tallied. Somehow, if that indeed. I think the big question, Mark is it was shot down over international space as the Iranians are claiming excuse me, as the Americans are claiming or was it over a running space now, if it's over a Ronnie in space and they're shooting down in American drone over their own airspace. Then I think this very little justification for any sort of a retaliation, if it's under international space, then I think then maybe it's a different situation but people should make no mistake. No. So the, the, the general Cellamare salami. Exactly right. The he Lincoln. All right. I'm general. Super Saudis coming. I knew I soon as I said it by title. I knew I was, I was going to be open yourself up there, but no general private Martha della. Hey, loni. Though he never he's never around. Well, this also general Sola money, who is a separate person. He's the head of the could sports, but they do not necessarily March in lockstep where her son. Is so both Bobby. Six thirty three. Be one of those shows. You've been warning. Very nice. Courtney. In. Yes, let's all go home. But anyway, released a lobby. Yes. He's a chief commander of the Islam revolutionary guard now. So general salami said that we do. General S b like like must or or. This kinda hoagie kind of see. As an observant he shouldn't be eating. Anyway. That's right. But so he said, we do not intend to engage in war with any country, but we're completely ready for the ready for the war. Today's incident is a clear sign of this accurate message. So you have Ronnie, and salami who are not necessarily always on the same page and. Baloney. He said this whole thing full of baloney. Great quote, come on. That's actually pretty good. That may require violate your. Baloney metro salami with. Got to put that out of the tweet, we think morning. Joe Joe Salamis full of baloney. Hey..

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"tonkin" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

02:17 min | 2 years ago

"tonkin" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"Gulf of Tonkin. Now, we're being against as boatmen Trump pushes closer and closer to a war with Iran. Has this country? This message. Radio. If you don't. Tell you. In them. Which is that black mask? Even mine's plot destruction. Depth structure. In the fields of bodies burning. Machine keeps turning. Two men. Rain washed, my. The fact that occurred of today. Clear. US. I'm louis. You are listening to ground zero. Call eight seven seven seven three one zero one. So I pointed out.

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"tonkin" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

05:08 min | 2 years ago

"tonkin" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"Breaking on through the other side L Tonkin Dari Nokia in on the Dan lebatardshow. Tomorrow's they've never never worked together. That's gonna be awesome Michalis an I'd never finished up strong here. One person not happy about thanksgiving. Kyrie Irving after being wished to happy thanksgiving by reporter following the Celtics lost the next up at the Celtics five hundred record. Now Irving retorted doesn't sell the holiday before saying at thanksgiving. Tweet. He used the words it shouldn't be used a professional setting. He meant no disrespect to the holiday, and those who celebrated respectfully is mother was a descendant of the standing rock Sioux tribe told NBC sports Boston is issues of the holiday stem from his native American heritage understandable. If you are of that heritage why you would look at at this holiday, a certain way, I think we're sort of beyond oftentimes something there's a reason something originates, and then it becomes something else. Lucien correct. And I think we're not necessarily celebrating thanksgiving because of what happened with the pilgrims and the native Americans back in the sixteen hundreds whatever we're doing it more as a sign of thanks for our family and friends what we have at the end of the year kind of thing before we get to Christmas. So I know what he's saying from historical standpoint. Not technically while we celebrate today. Right. Gratitude is the theme. Yes. Before we get to some clapback the second one other story story they want to get your take on Adrian Peterson. Sometimes still uses a belt on his son. I saw this is are you kidding? He told bleach report he the disciplined my son. Is speaking the other day with a belt? This is notable in case to jog your memory. He was suspended the NFL two thousand fourteen after being charged with felony child abuse for using a switch to spank his then four year old son. He also says he disciplines his kids in other ways have them do wall squats sitting timeout or taking with electrons last year. I do as well taken try saying out fine. But anyway, the belt I mean, what I I shouldn't be surprised. He still does it surprise. He admitted it was such candor. We'll see we could have a whole hour on this particular subject, and you're going to get different answers. Based on a where you were were you grew up where you were raised and how old you are. It's a generational thing. But it's also a cultural thing. Yeah. I'm old enough and was born in the south where that was calm. Place. I was disciplined with belts switches like my mom would make me go get my own switch. So you have the physical pain, and then the mental anguish of going to get some the beat your own ads with right? Just think about that. Right. But I never felt like I was abused right discipline and being abused thing. But people believe the manner in which you discipline is automatic abuse. Some people believe that my mother clearly didn't believe that. My mother was a social worker. Okay. My mother was a social worker she did with people who are actually being abused. But she's using things to discipline me that other people could see it as that way. But she saw differently. I saw it differently. Now, I don't have kids right now. Would I do that? I don't think I would. But I can't say for certain I really can't just because of my culture upbringing. But the thing that got me about the story is that I find that's who he is what he believes. And that's what he continues to do. But then the agent comes out and trust it on the reporter said that he he used his trust in a in a deceitful way. No. He didn't know he didn't. He asked a question and Adrian Peterson answered it if he didn't want to go there all say was you know, what I'm not going to go there for the age of the comeback and try to take a little pressure off of the situation. No, he's a grown man who can answer a question. He did. And that's just how he feels any repercussions beyond. This. Do you think the Redskins talk Adrian Peterson dizzy NFL center? Is this just a story go? Wow. Okay. Well, I think they let it slide and we're into thanksgiving holiday. A lot of people probably would pay that much attention to it. You kind of let it slide. Look, Einstein why people trip on that. I really do. But also group in school where we had paddling in school. Like I had one in high school. I got a paddling in high school. That's crazy. Right. And this was night time and place. Nine I got a paddling as a junior in high school, right? That's intense. But again, it's it's cultural it's generational is it happening today. No. But sometimes I'm in the stores. I'm like man, somebody needs to be della, boys. But. Just to clamoring for punishment. Give us some clapback. So we've got a minute left. Okay. We'll give you two relieving with this aunt. Are. You dating yet? Me. Are you married yet? Jeez. And less aunt reason. Usually these terrible odds because those are the ones usually go say some stuff kind of pop off a little bit auntie is that your second plate me is that your second husband. News are your thanksgiving clawbacks for two thousand eighteen we'll tag thanksgiving clapback right now on Twitter. It's going off send us off to God's got those in the weekend up surveys juice around here. What are white women? Overtime. That's a question. A lot of us are asking with conviction. You have to play the game. Seriously, come on. I'm looking at the white women. Thank you. That's a question. I have right now. Michalis? Mike us opinion, you're catching tonight on sportscenter. Check us in a foul..

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"tonkin" Discussed on Part of the Problem

Part of the Problem

04:20 min | 2 years ago

"tonkin" Discussed on Part of the Problem

"They conspired against Alex Jones because he was a conspiracy theorist. It's almost like the Whitney Cummings example. They proved him right with their attack Facebook, Facebook, apple, like all these giant companies banned him on the same day proving that they conspired against him because he's a conspiracy theories. We live in a country with the Gulf Tonkin and these proven conspiracies like the government was setting up shooting down airliner to start a war with Cuba like these aren't. These aren't crazy thoughts like the Federal Reserve is in part of America. It's like our entire money system is based on a story like almost like the big friendly giants. So the fat when you when you get when you get hep to the war stuff. I mean, that's when like the whole idea of someone being accused of being a conspiracy theorist, just it loses all of its gravity, all of its weight to it because I mean, it's not like like every single war every single war. We are lied into a group of people who get together and plan out the war, and it's just it's like everyone every one of them the war in Libya the war in Iraq. The fuck like every God damn one of them. And then of course, Vietnam, like you mentioned the World War One. And then you see the other plans where they were planning on line to get us into other wars. So it's not, you know. After you realize that it's like, oh, yeah. Well, it makes sense that people would have a healthy level of conspiracy and make sense that people don't trust. This covers. And you know, and then you could also look at a lot of other light conspiracies like, look, I mean, the banker bailouts and stuff like that. I mean, these are a group of men in closed door meetings who conspire to steal everybody else's money and bail out their friends who tanked the economy. So no, I agree with you on that. And I do think that there's gotta be like when you were saying that I, they came for the Jews thing and referencing Cavanaugh. One of the things that's really amazing to me about, you know, particularly on the left is how. How could any white man get any straight white man be going along with this stuff? It's like, what? Self way straightaway? Yeah, like like you would look at Cava and not a little bit think to yourself. You really are like the ju- helping Nazis round up other Jews, like you realize you're to. Yeah, you're fucking source in this shit, like win self agent of it. Yeah. Well, that's a lot of black people are moving away from the Democrats as well because of how they reacted to because it's not about being democrat Republican, it's being allowed to have your thoughts. And I personally a few black dudes that saw that. And these are diehard. They hate Republicans and they said they saw how they were like, oh, no, but you can't be a Republican and they're like, wait what it's like. So we can't. We've, you know, and, and that's one reason why I think the left took that movie get out and made sure it had one hundred per se. And rotten tomatoes, and because it was mocking liberals, right? I voted for Obama third time dog. That's why they killed. Malcolm x. dude, started understanding some stuff, and he was talking about how the liberal is actually the enemy of the black man and they took him out. Yeah. Is now a friend yet and he's talking about like the nature of the state Malcolm x. toward the end had a whole lot of really interesting shit to say, and then he conveniently met his a his fate. I think you're right to me with Konya in general. It's like I haven't found anything that he's actually said to be that interesting. Never a guy who I've looked to for my intellectual cues before, but the action to him is really interesting. The reaction or so panicked that own. I got like it's kind of. It reminds me of the situation with you as well where it's like Hollywood, so takes it for granted that if there's one hundred of them and one of them feels differently than the rest of them, they think it's like fucking a huge problem. And you're like, you do realize sixty three million people voted for Donald Trump or something like that..

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"tonkin" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

02:34 min | 2 years ago

"tonkin" Discussed on KQED Radio

"A web of deception from a modern white house it's horrifying but sure isn't new lyndon johnson and the gulf of tonkin nixon and watergate clinton and monica gate then there was the george w bush administration when a tissue of lies about supposed weapons of mass destruction triggered the invasion of iraq at a cost of roughly a trillion dollars in many hundreds of thousands of human lives and ongoing deadly chaos in the region the rob reiner film shock and awe revisit the run up to the war with its trumped up intelligence and a credulous mass media that mainly failed to challenge the bush administration's motives its competence and it's phony evidence of an iraqi threat hussein is about revenge he has anthrax he loves biological weapons he has terrorist training camps including them seven seven to practice on one person close to the debate said to me this week it's no longer a question of if it's a question of how we go after saddam hussein george bush's a president he makes the decisions and it's just one american wherever you want to be the lineup just tell me where the movie focuses on the reporting of jonathan landay and warren strobel formerly if the night ritter news service who refused to defer to the government's narrative and unraveled the fraud call your boss we're going to run or whether he comments and not actually yes it is a matter of life in debt we're talking about going to think of all the president's men with the added element of the heroes working in an environment of colossal journalistic failure jonathan landay is now a national security correspondent for reuters and is played in the film by woody harrelson and welcome back to thank you for having me you and strobel had asked the right questions you'd put it all together the fabricated intelligence that leaks from dick cheney's office but you were voices in the wilderness why it's a good question and it's one we get asked all the time i think there are several reasons we're talking about a time immediately post nine eleven there was a propensity on the part of the public and the media to stand behind the president that at time of national catastrophe down here all of us.

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Japan June manufacturing PMI shows growth but export orders contract

News, Traffic and Weather

02:13 min | 3 years ago

Japan June manufacturing PMI shows growth but export orders contract

"Details in just a moment mexico's peso has posted the biggest gain among the world's major currencies at the presidential election results came in largely as expected with andres manuel lopez oberdorf poised to victory and the peso has strengthened one point two percent in trading here in asia china's tyrosine manufacturing survey came in with the reading fifty one in june that was slightly below the survey estimate of fifty one point one hit followed the official pmi as being a little lower than estimates and sentiment for japan's large manufacturers fell to twenty one from three months ago the forecast was for reading of twenty two this is according to the quarterly tonkin survey released by the bank of japan the outlook index for large manufacturers increased to twenty one that was slightly better than the forecast of twenty well some celebrating at tesla bloomberg's data whole says workers are telling her that tusla's model three has hit its milestone production target of five thousand vehicles a week we did here for one worker that you know kind of a cheer went up when the car reached the end of the line they managed to hit this target that is pretty critic critical one for them in a memo to employees obtained by bloomberg ceo elon musk you said we did it and in doing so we've become a real car company tesla expected to release the official numbers as early as tomorrow in california the the nikkei at the moment is trading down about a tenth of one percent and we see also the shanghai composite trading down about a third of one percent global news twenty four hours a day live and it tick tock on twitter powered by twenty seven hundred journalists and analysts in one hundred twenty countries in hong kong i'm bryan curtis this is bloomberg who's winning weekly earnings growth was off just over three percent booze there's been two years more funds have liquidated then have one looks the future of money management hedge funds are really using etf's to lower their costs several managers that we talked to have different things that are alarming then this is bloomberg your yours for trans investing strategy and asset management with john tucker and begging collar.

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"tonkin" Discussed on Well This Sucks

Well This Sucks

02:00 min | 3 years ago

"tonkin" Discussed on Well This Sucks

"Stigma for my self to which i like that's something that also keeps comes up a lot in our episodes because like i i still feel a stigma because i think of a stigma as like a taboo like incest or you don't like stigma yeah yeah stink oh yeah we can't say that referring to your taboo words like cancer you don't say it like right actually this all because because he treats tanel like a stigma a stigma answer yeah i am can't i my birth tonkin's oh my god everything is everything all this is so currently but yet you know yes you're about to die turn that thing off your extra to you like a stigma and so now like it's caused a rift in our friend group because like people don't want to treat you that way but then like things quickness awkwardness comes you bring stress on everybody literally does like you're not making it you're not only making it bad on yourself maybe a bad for everybody yeah like just make everybody happy i know don't be so suck up your feelings and you can't treat and you'll be happier to yourself yeah we will definitely because he obviously still wants to be friends you know he's not about to get a new friend group and he will be happier you'll be happier this is what moving this is this is what moving forward means but yes you can't treat people like individual people as you know maybe some exceptions like serial killers or something i don't know but we still gotta talk about them to talk people get lots to talk about people like stigmas and we can't treat people stigmas when we treat cancer like a stick his cancer is not a stigma.

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Lehigh Valley Phantoms' five-overtime win over Charlotte Checkers marks longest game in AHL history

The News with Gene Valicenti

01:17 min | 3 years ago

Lehigh Valley Phantoms' five-overtime win over Charlotte Checkers marks longest game in AHL history

"The incident in sports last night the yankee score four times in the bottom of the eighth inning sox closer craig kimbrel they rally for nine two six win over the socks six thirty airtime am seven ninety red sox tried to avoid sweep at the hands of the red hot yankees they're in first place this morning celts say bring on the king they closed out the seventy sixers one fourteen one twelve game five win in ball austin last night one other sports note it was a night for the books in the american hockey league the calder cup playoffs standards charlotte north carolina they played into five overtime last night lehigh valley and charlotte the phantoms one that came in the fifth overtime two to one the goaltender for the bantams former yokel tender alex lyon made ninety four saves in the game including the last seventy four shots that he saw the longest game in the eighty four year history of the american hockey league coming up rhode island's anchorman is going to give them the business news and gene valicenti gino's on the way after the latest on the highway out there and swansea it looks like we're finally getting elaine literally as we speak finally getting elaine the highway open fixed got that update next along with elliot the accuweather forecast rain's coming in this weekend wbz news time is six thirty four from the new england truck solutions traffic center here is your courtesy hunting tonkin regional traffic traveling.

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"tonkin" Discussed on WZFG The Flag 1100AM

WZFG The Flag 1100AM

02:09 min | 3 years ago

"tonkin" Discussed on WZFG The Flag 1100AM

"In the tonkin gulf incident whether those american destroyers the maddox and the turner joy i know some of these things michael because i was in the white house the day of the real last saturday night massacre in the oval office when elliot richardson was about to come in to be fired and that was a time when we had another crisis in the middle east you had the war the israelis had turned it around thanks to american age flown in nixon's orders and the russians were now talking about intervening on the side of egypt there was talk that there were nuclear weapons on some warships moving through the bosphorus and the dardanelles kissinger was in moscow tried to talk sense to the russians and so we were defied by elliot richardson who refused to issue an order to is is the special prosecutor andrea and so that's when the saturday night massacre occurred archibald cox from elliot richardson bill michaels house they went and bought borg got up and fired cox so these things we've been there before but what bothers me here is that trump is elected by the american people get keep us out of these horrendous middle east war in which we've been involved since two thousand and one in afghanistan two thousand and three in iraq and in libya and in somalia and yemen and in syria and now if you've launch this strike there's a real possibility we're in a major war in syria when trump came along i backed them one hundred percent i put them over the finish line because i knew as an outsider he would probably not be a warmonger i saw him as a man of peace i don't understand how this war party got control of the steering wheel of the ship of state pat how in the heck did they do this i think one thing we we shouldn't underestimate the emotions of donald trump he was clearly a year ago and we had a previous attack or alleged attack with sharon gas it was moved by the sight.

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China Unveils Plan to Lure Big Tech Stock Listings Back Home

02:29 min | 3 years ago

China Unveils Plan to Lure Big Tech Stock Listings Back Home

"A barrel up about six tenths of a percent at sixty five thirty one and brench just under seventy dollars up eight tenths of a percent at sixty nine eighty nine bob china has activated its promise to increase tariffs on us agricultural goods more from bloomberg's yvonne man in hong kong decision applies to one hundred twenty fruits and related products in the us china is slapping a fifteen percent additional tax on those and it's increasing terrorists on eight imported pork and related products by twenty five percent the nation's customs tariffs commission says the move is designed to defend chinese interests using world trade organization rules the move is in response to washington's new tariffs on steel and aluminum imports into the us yvonne man reporting from hong kong the next shoe to drop may be from the white house the trump administration is expected to announce which chinese products will be included in the fifty billion dollars in levies by friday and china took a major step toward seeing alibaba by do at others list in its domestic market announcing a trial program that would allow the technology giants to see their sheers bought and sold in the world's most populous country while china has been a breeding ground for some of the world's fastest growing and highest value tech businesses companies have headed off shore leading the local market rely on state run industries confidence in japan's large large manufacturers that from the highest level in more than a decade during the first quarter in the latest tonkin survey the strengthening yen clouded the profit outlook for japanese companies here in the us a busy week on the economic front it starts with today's is an factory report and concludes with friday's employment report economists are forecasting the unemployment rate to fall to its lowest since two thousand at four percent also looking for an addition of one hundred eighty nine thousand jobs that reported out eight thirty am walls street time on friday wall street gets back to work after a losing weekend a losing quarter a preview of the week ahead from bloomberg's charlie pellett in addition to a full plate of economic data including the jobs report will also be hearing from fed chair jerome powell wall street is looking ahead to corporate earnings the cornerstone of the nine year equity rally howard ward is director of growth products at gabelli funds during these market cycles sometimes the focuses on the.

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"tonkin" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio

C-SPAN Radio

03:00 min | 3 years ago

"tonkin" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio

"To do with nine eleven but the bush administration lied to the american people iraq had no weapons of mass destruction it was not connected to nine eleven the american people want misled by the bush administration into believing that the iraq war was necessary to prevent another nine eleven and congress did not challenge them on those planes in a way that congress should have with disastrous consequences that was a republican administration now let me tell you about a democratic administration where once again congress refuse to assert its constitutional responsibility bernie sanders let us go back to nineteen sixty four to a club click that began on civil elite false premises president lyndon johnson cited an attack on a us ship in the gulf of tonkin as a pretext for escalating the us intervention in vietnam and sending more and more and more troops into that quagmire but we now know from g classified recordings that johnson himself doubted that that ship the us s maddox had come under fire on august fourth nineteen sixty four as we all know that alleged attack was used the push for the gulf of tonkin resolution authorizing johnson to escalate us military involvement in vietnam and we now know that secretary of defense robert mcnamara misled congress and the public in order to generate support for that resolution now you don't have to believe me this is what lieutenant commander pat patterson wrote in a pap up for the united states naval institute and i quote the evidence suggests a disturbing and deliberate attempt by secretary of defense mcnamara the thought the evidence and mislead congress and the quote patterson interestingly enough also quotes another author who wrote and i quote to enhance his chances for election johnson and mcnamara deceived the american people and congress about events and the nature of the american commitment in vietnam they used a questionable report of a north vietnamese attack on american naval vessels to justify the president's alison to the electorate and to defuse republican senator and presidential candidate barry goldwater charges that lyndon johnson was a resolute and soft.

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"tonkin" Discussed on American History Tellers

American History Tellers

02:02 min | 3 years ago

"tonkin" Discussed on American History Tellers

"If the deep psychological sense that scarred the soviet union for the entire time the followed how much debate you think went into the gulf of tonkin resolution or or even in more modern day is the the patriot act not nearly enough i think it seems clear in hindsight what what what's all these really striking me about the gulf of tonkin resolution in with the benefit of hindsight is how relatively uncontroversial it was at the time and how i how many how bipartisan it was there were a lot of people on board for the gulf of tonkin resolution the same thing that said i mean i'm glad you brought up the patriot act you could say the same thing for for the decision to go to war in iraq as well those were late those were wellsupported like they were that was the kind of consensus of the political establishment who is that these were the right things to do at those particular points in time but you know consensus is a funny thing i mean is certainly in politics but but it makes me think about historical consensus not how the historians of viewed the fall of raw but how histories themselves seem to fall i mean clearly the the fall of rome were studied by more than just the historians of the nineties how did a revolution in history about history happen i think to some extent we're just always going to be a prisoner of our times we're going to be limited by the kind of broader prevailing currents in society and in fought as a whole i'm i think at the my way of viewing historians as an academic discipline is that were kind of jacks of all traits we're not specialist and literature but will use literature were not archeologists but we may use archaeology were not dead we're not enter apologists but we may drawn anthropological theory so i think historians more so than specialists and other fields are constrained by what's happening at a current moment in the world around them i think we're always writing hit our histories of the past are always histories of our present you know in some in some deep and meaningful way and so when you're living in a period of time with this were the the the soviet us relationship define.

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"tonkin" Discussed on On The Media

On The Media

02:13 min | 3 years ago

"tonkin" Discussed on On The Media

"No i didn't even know that broke by the way and the tonkin gulf until i saw the actual negatives of the pictures taken during the shooting in tonkin gulf would you contrast what the story was we were told in what you saw him what the american people were told in nineteen 64 was that north vietnamese boats attacked american ships in the tonkin gulf area and that our ships fired back him and protection mmm but what i found out when i actually saw the negatives of the pictures taken during that night these were negatives that showed our ships firing huge guns and no evidence of any small ships firing guns at us i was astonished confusion in the gulf of tonkin initially and later outright deception enabled president johnson to effect a huge escalation in america's participation in that war it was that aggression that created the the foundation of for it that's right the it provided the public justification i would argue that you may under estimate of the significance of the more or less continuous lying all throughout the conduct of that war i don't think this underestimate the ally i was witness to it i know what it was that i know who is doing what you think the media the narrative about it is is outsized i think it's outsize based on the pentagon papers brooke and if you read the papers here ellsberg created the myth that what the papers show is that all was a bunch of laws but the truth is as i said people actually believed in the war and were ignorant about what could and could not actually be done to do well in that war that will you see what you actually read the papers as opposed to talk about papers.

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"tonkin" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

02:17 min | 3 years ago

"tonkin" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Two dissenting votes on the tonkin resolution no were engaged historic debate in this country on differences of opinion i happen to hold we point of view and go to be too long before the american people repudiate our war in southeast asia that of course in a good news the hanoi senator i know that as this mirrors the hugh militarism give to those of us that hirano differences pinuel you but i don't intend to get down in the gutter with you and engaging with kind of debate bureau i'm simply saying that in my judgment the president nine states is already losing the people of this country by the millions you and the president my dedmon this guiding them for a long time in this war fifty years on many historians view these first fulbright hearings as a tipping point in the vietnam story when the hearings began the president's approval rating was over sixty percent when they ended a month later that number had fallen for the first time to below fifty percent the fulbright hearings had allowed millions of americans to hear expert testimony from a range of perspectives on the war minds began to be changed as a result but not at the white house where the criticism only caused the president to doubled down on his own vietnam narrative the prevailing wisdom at the time was that you have to walk very carefully in dealing with lyndon johnson that oh vert criticism and opposition fury aides him and could have the opposite result which hoping tanned seth tillman was fulbright's longtime aide and chief speechwriter especially coming from some like fulbright when he did good opposition was worse than an enemy he was a traitor it was a friend do would be trade is being johnson's perception fulbright's betrayal was to go public with his opposition to the war which he did in a widely publicized 19th 65 speech the speech abruptly ended a longstanding friendship forged when the two men had served together in the senate and broken only when fulbright concluded reluctantly that the president was not going to end the war what his motives word what moved him to pursue that policy over that of history we i tried what i could be persuaded not to all.

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"tonkin" Discussed on KSFO-AM

KSFO-AM

02:12 min | 3 years ago

"tonkin" Discussed on KSFO-AM

"The gulf of tonkin during the vietnam war the following october his plane was shot down during a bombing mission over hanoi you spent more than five years as a prisoner of war mccain is also survived several bouts with melanoma a dangerous in cancer and in sports pin major league baseball last night washington beat miami two to one the nationals lead in the nl east is now at seventeen games over the marlins stephen straus strasbourg now twelve and four on the season pittsburgh four the cubs three the pirates rally from three runs down in the eight for the victory detroit the kansas city the to to tampa bay to minnesota one lucas duda with a solo homerun the game winner for the rates then philidelphia beat the mets 9to1 cincinnati over milwaukee nine to three the cleveland indians won their thirteen th in a row nine to four over the chicago white sox colorado nine sent francisco six three hits for nelson are a nada st louis beat san diego eight two five and have a manny machado he did what superstars do last night the orioles beat the yankees seven to six with many wins the game for the orioles with two out to run at gamewinning homer for the orioles justin verlander pitches his first game not in the detroit tigers uniform and gets the the wind producing three or one boston beat toronto three two two romero's drives in mookie betts for the game winner in the ninth inning for the red sox the rangers and braves were rained out they'll play a doubleheader today in atlanta in the nfl the miami dolphins will not be playing their game against the tampa bay buccaneers at hard rock stadium dissent day due to the threat of hurricane erma the question is where and when ruled a play many reports say the game could be rescheduled for november night peace as both teams have a bye week according to league sources an official decision should be made this afternoon and the sixgame suspension of dallas cowboys running back is dq elliott for violating the league's personal conduct policy on domestic abuse has been upheld however because of the late announcement the nfl is allowing him to play the cowboys opener against the giants this sunday the suspension will begin next week we tube of the regular season i'm john hunting this is.

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"tonkin" Discussed on War Stories w/ Oliver North

War Stories w/ Oliver North

01:47 min | 3 years ago

"tonkin" Discussed on War Stories w/ Oliver North

"Robert mcnamara and the joint she sustained knew that it was at least very unlikely aren't that a second incident in the gulf ty did not occur but they were very anxious to support the president in getting this resolution through congress and avoiding a debate on vietnam if passed the gulf of tonkin resolution would allow lbj to use force in southeast asia without declaring war but first macnamara would have to answer some tough questions in closed door congressional hearings mcnamara rings with him uh the chairman of joint chiefs of staff general or a wheeler and general wheeler and secretary makmur lie about the ambiguities surrounding the second attack later that day mcnamara briefed lbj on the hearings by digging hearing her break that factory near unanimous support congress overwhelmingly passed the gulf of tonkin resolution on seven august it gave lbj the power to take all necessary measures to repel any armed attacks against the forces of the united states and to prevent further aggression it was basically a blank cheque and it would be cashed in vietnam when america bombs more funeral it isn't understood that that the north vietnamese communists are going to respond by increasing infiltration into south vietnam the viet cong were growing larger at the same time that they are stealing the countryside out from under the government in the slow seepage of guerrilla warfare in november of sixty four lbj was elected president of the united states and annoy downed pilot evert alvarez it endured three long months of isolation and starvation at the hanoi hilton.

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"tonkin" Discussed on The Nerdist

The Nerdist

02:11 min | 4 years ago

"tonkin" Discussed on The Nerdist

"And in answer to your question i'll tell you a couple of stories i wanted to do what my dad did when i was a kid but when i saw the presidency of lyndon johnson and the vietnam war based on a lie at than talk to with the tonkin gulf resolution and then nixon followed two with the added i just thought man that's a last thing i'll ever do and i became i went to vietnam came back and i worked as a journalist for five years and thought that's what i would be for the rest of my life but i started covering government and it kind of reawakens some of those uh uh young uh childhood thoughts uh uh i began to think that maybe i could do this a little bit better than some of the people i'm covering it anyway i jumped into a race for congress and the main point i want to make is that when i started doing these town hall meetings i called him open meetings and then went back to the capital in dc ana said goodness it was so thrilling the sounds a little corny but i could almost hear the battle hymn of the republic be unharmed in the background on amina a promise you was really an amazing experience and i loved it and our founders designed a system that takes into account all those contradictions that you referred to and setting up your question they knew these tensions would exist on it you know it's not a problem to be solved it's a dilemma to be managed on if you have really strong feelings about something and the majority of your constituents disagree have a chance to explain yourself and collect information from them take it back to dc then go back and tell them what's going on in the uh you know in the committee meetings and on the floor the congress and i did that and it and it was as i said to thrilling.

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