19 Episode results for "Tonio Brown"

Moment of the Day (05/29/19)

Boomer & Gio

01:21 min | 1 year ago

Moment of the Day (05/29/19)

"Three choices here. Well, I'll start here because earlier we played this clip from end, Tonio Brown. I think it did. So we play that. And sadly, none of the one two three four five of us. I think Bob in the back as well had any idea what it meant so Allen to work. I did just Google Ye and it is a thing. It wouldn't mean it's a like if you Google Ye all these things come up. What is Ye mean, would you like a Ye t shirt? It means it's like a slang term for you. So it's like when I see you walking in the hallway, I go Ye. Just like being like a you the man being thirsty. There's going to be your new thing. I might be there's a golfer. I think that even uses it real Grainger Smith. Is that a guy? Oh, you're right up the tiger. Woods. Granger smith. Insurance company. Oh he's a singer. There you go moment of the day. All right. Thank you, Jerry. Everybody pitch. All right. These are real golfers that you can see some of the world's best. I want to see greater Smith. Phil mickelson. Brooks, KEPCO Grainger Smith. Justin thomas.

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Hour 3: Alejandro Narciso

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Hour 3: Alejandro Narciso

"The Dan Le Batard Woodstock Gotcha podcast is brought to you by the capital one's ever card or four percent cashback on dining and entertainment ju- percent grocery stores of one percent on all of the purchases now when you go out you can't Jim what's in your wallet terms apply Donlevatar. I think when I was young I actually called Chris Berman at ESPN and left him a message Dave Winfield Flyer Stugatz. We've got the nickname was playing then and I left him. I left him a message. I said you really did that <hes> because if I did that all I know well you would do that now. I did it when I was twelve. This libertad show with as two guys. Let's phone. ESPN RADIO ESPN radio is presented by Progressive Insurance guests on the Dan lebatardshow appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sports center update. Elena della became the first WNBA players. You fifty percent from the field forty percent from three and ninety percent from the free. Throw line. Thanks to twenty five points join to the mystics way and versus the Sky Man Kyle Murray led the cardinals back from an eighteen point deficit to tie the game with forty three seconds remaining in and forced overtime and eventually finished the game tied with the Lions Cuyler finished twenty nine of fifty four three hundred eight yards two touchdowns and an interception and finally do to insanely popular demand white cloth the hard seltzer. That's taken America by storm. This summer is facing a shortage good problem to have. Here's these selectquote difference. Most companies give you one option what policy one rape but selectquote selectquote shops it could get you up to ten options highly rated life insurance companies very free personalized quote do what I did call eight hundred seven zero ten ten or go to selectquote dot com for all the latest headlines that information tune into sports center on ESPN radio all throughout the day people are mad at the Tonio Brown story. They are mad at the Patriots atriums. They want them investigated again. Drew Rosenhaus is all over the air today saying they're giant smile on his face saying none of this was orchestrated none of this <hes> that gives Antonio Brown too much credit. Look someone who paints their mustache. That color has there's no master plan. Okay Stop Giving Antonio Brown strategic brilliant point but maybe drew had the master plan. I mean let's not forget the steelers would not not deal Antonio Brown to the Patriarch Freeze your feet and complain about your helmet and fight the general manager. I'm also complaining <hes> really confused at the time line of the master plan because I heard on. NFL countdown that the plan was sort of set in motion after talking to consultants by posting using that fine however he wanted guaranteed money because he had the emotional want yeah what master plan he's up there with the captains weeping in front of the team crying signing begging to be back on the team all part of the plan yeah. That's that's how you Luhrman because if you say from the beginning Dan I don't WanNa be here. They're not gonNA. Let you go and do whatever you want what you need to make. It seem like you WanNa be there in your crazy. I'm not I don't look if he was wearing a suit and wearing glasses. Would you think he was crazy. No IT'S B it's this bias because of his blue hair and his must that's going on here and that's the key having them think you're a little bit off a little bit crazy but you know what's going to happen you know all along with no one wants to get played by a genius and if he was wearing a suit and glasses you'd be like this guy's a genius but they'll allow crazy person to go so they don't have to deal with the crazy. Z. Person But all along it was a gene isn't a crazy person disguise but he's putting out like all these inspirational quotes and he's really trying to sell that. I guess he's just as misunderstood understood. Intellectual like come on man. Yes come on. Man is one way to put that we're just mad because our teams didn't get. It's correct that is correct doc because you that team got him. You you would be amazed though how Mike Greenberg tone would change. If all of a sudden the jets had Antonio Brown own at wide receiver. It'd be startled by that right because right now grady is outrage our good friend Wilpon if he were on the Chicago bears in Greenie they call it the Muslim professional thing he's seen in sports scene like dolphins fans on my timeline accurately point out there was a coach that did a white powdery substance videotaped it the exact quote it was what we have just witnessed is the most unprofessional act that I can ever remember seeing in professional sports. I mean I mean force or got a job again. I mean o j got away with murder. He said that he could remember okay. That is the out there dilute her at free last last year. I love the idea though of you guys pointing out crazy when these are just going to read them right now because I'm I'm sorry to laugh at this but Richie Incognito Okay Patrick Claybon writes on twitter last year a player your went on a casket punching spree in a funeral home before threatening to shoot everyone inside it after they rebuffed requests to hand over his deceased father's severed head and then someone comment on that this is the same individual also through dumbbells at a fellow gym goer for approaching me with level three NASA ece documents on my phone and say documents on my phone and the victim didn't have enough government clearance to speak with him that is in the raiders locker room listening to Antonio Brown's tearful apology and then watching the video the next day as Tonio Brown days as after is tearful apology is free as an ego in his backyard and it's making people mad in a way that this guy tweets tweets in regular people can't do whatever they want at work. They just worked their butts off and are grateful to be working cheese. Be More valuable to your boss man regular. I mean you. That's correct that is correct. You cannot do that to your boss. Well no you could if the Patriots were willing to take. You and you are not good enough to do that to your boss is my point sir. Who's busy tweeting US thoughts like this breath. That's the deal. It ain't a nobody who's desperate. Who told you this guy as talent. It's a got who's never willing to give up his big draft picks and was willing to trade a one for him when he became available. I mean it's the guy who knows more about that at sport then anyone saying. Oh Yeah I can get him cheap. I would've given version big forum and to me thirty thirty five million dollars. The next two years is cheap. I can get him cheap. Whose reaction would you most want to see once that news. What Dan was it Rothlisburger awfullest Burger Tomlin any of the Rooney's. That's the thing we were trying to get at. We wanted to pay we wanted to have a start an APP around and <hes> reading Ben Rothlisberger texts as all this was happening over the weekend. They were laughing. Oh yes that's right. He's I'd love to read the amount more than I wanted to read them before because no now you'd get the ones from before and also the Oh you've gotta be kidding me because I'm sure everyone with the steelers wants. This investigated to kind of gotten a one for me. Do you think he texted Brady Rothlisberger the the idea that this doesn't happen in football man. This does not happen where you guys think it is unfair and I think so too. It's unfair that the Patriots got him. The steelers were this steelers could have gotten a better offer than the one they took from the raiders. They said no thanks. We don't want to get better by making you better. We don't want the better offer or they could have kept them. Can't outsmart a genius man. That's all part of the plan. Let me explain something to you though that is also amazing around this scenario area. It wasn't put one damn game ago that he didn't even play in that none of us thought in Tokyo promise crazy if there hasn't been a game played in the time in Tonio Brown Antonio Brown has not played in a game in the time from from his reputation reputation to go from. He's a really excellent receiver to clown show to going to be a champion. I'm still not so sure. He doesn't try to suit up for the raiders tonight. I'm not so sure it's not going to suit up for the raiders while playing for the Patriots against is the dolphins next week run around. I settled on this helmet. Play the raiders put it on the poll. Poll is Antonio Brown's. GonNa play <hes> for the Patriots in his raiders helmet. If this were all part of the plan then he would have done it just like a day sooner so he would have suited up for the Patriots against the steelers last night. They don't play the raiders. Have you seen the Patriots Agile that they might run the team. You mentioned it is schedule and the link in week nine three game gauntlet but other than that I mean our loser. Ville meant one game in the season's. It's over and we didn't even need that one week. As soon as Antonio Brown was dancing at back yard. Everyone's like never mind. That's what I want when my sport so somebody called Ted Wells again the only thing I can lose. The investigation to the only thing you'd have a chance of winning is an investigation in your football buckle. I love Monday nights. You've got a loser leaves town match. I round jets. I can't wait seasons of high. Expectation playoff game and a lot of us is going to be rejuvenated me a playoff game. This week God's here week. One is in the books draftkings isn't finished celebrating with some huge fantasy football contests per week two of the football season. 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I'm just an idiot these lebatardshow with those two guys on ESPN radio if if you missed any of the show you can listen to all three hours of the Dan lebatardshow plus our Miami only hour our best podcast on demand in the ESPN APP and subscribe to the podcast network network featuring South Beach sessions stupidity mystery great new episodes every week please rate and subscribe it's all available in the more tab of the ESPN APP every minded golic and Wingo. We'll be live from Maryland this Friday covering the cowboys redskins matchup part of ESPN radio's fall football tour brought to you by marathon. Get five cents off every every gallon. Every day with market can't reward from merrythought to sign up visit. I don't know if this is right Roy. I don't WanNa give out the wrong information here M. A. K. E. L. T. count dot com or download the free APP today. I gotTA give it out. Give give it out okay. You could have just done it instead of stopping everything to blame someone else. Oh I see it now long weekend. Make IT COUNT DOT com. Are you kidding me. Well listen. It's all like together out. No no no spaces I want commas. I want space is uh-huh dashes. Are you kidding me. It's been a long weekend in you went straight into excuse making mode hold on a second okay. We will get to God's his long on weekend. In the second. I just want to revisit what just happened. There he spelled out make it count of blamed Roy for it and then and <hes> wasn't dashes and said it was a long weekend just lapsed immediately into excuse-making. We will get in a second to everything that happened. Open their reservoir. I didn't write the copy right straight from Bristol. No one's blaming. You know. You just dashes commas. That's you know that's your responsibility responsibility. Okay thank you and it's a website so that would if you were to start saying dashes or commas in their website. You'd be sending people to the wrong place. Make it count dot com is where you want and again was amazing. It was watching you do all of that slowdown at all the speed bumps in the reads. It was just amazing thing to watch and they can count. It was incompetence at the height of incompetence. Now you guys if I ask you STU gods. I believe that we have the biggest get in all of football coming on with us in about fifteen minutes. We gotTA ANTONIO. I don't WanNa Antonio. Let's that's just going to be. The ravings of a loon would want no. I don't want the ravings of a loon. <hes> the biggest get to me is the guy who made that video idea for Antonio Brown. They've got him out of Oakland is with us in fifteen minutes. The Guy who made that video I want to know so if they were taping Jon Gruden without his consent more reported that Jon Gruden founded uproarious he could not have founded a brewery is twelve hours later because Jon Gruden looks like a bigger fool than Antonio Brown does today at the time. GRUDEN was trying to get to Monday so it didn't matter. He was tired of the entire situation situation but you're right. I'm guessing twelve hours later a little bit upset well. I got to meet this guy. I got to meet Antonio. I never got to meet Khalil. So at least I got to meet a great great players. The last sound of Antonio Brown's Raiders Career Okay because the celebration the backyard came afterward the last a sound of his coach is a possibly illegally recorded sound of Gruden Kissing Antonio Brown's but at the very end thank you a you're. You're the most misunderstood guy I've ever met. In my life man great football player man you won't be right or not and he never answered the question of a Red Flag. This answer not seems to be the answer. We'll get to armies tackling a second. Oh they're good good. They are amazingly disciplined. tacklers not surprising you watch every game football. Everyone's missing tackle never army army. They might get their slower than the resume. They don't do not break any tackles against Army Angle Chris. Can you look up for me. Just the last couple of years here's in terms of penalties it navy and Army because I also believe they never cheat. They asked one of the kids on army where you intimidated on the road one hundred thousand people the big house he's like. We're the army man talking about. It's a horrible over there. What he does is in really scary. It just is looks like it <hes> but the thing I wanted to get to I though is what just happened with Stu gods during the break because I'm not making miss up. Okay stugatz has been complaining about being tired this weekend and what he's tired from is not work what he's tired from. Tom Is Stimuli so Mike. I'm not joking when I say God's looks like a little drained. He looks just he's defeated right and he's just complaining about about the amount of stimuli that he consumed this weekend whether it was Texas. LSU or or Antonio Brown or everything that happened in football all yes. Uso mets thing he knows right. He's watching cardinals lions disoriented and then breaks out Medvedev Medvedev. Excuse me but <hes> what ends up happening here. Mike and this is funny. Stu Gods says Dan. You don't understand late last last night. I just went outside laid by my pool and listened to jazz. Listen to music. I don't even listen to just to soothe myself from all of the Stimuli of the weekend I had to get away from sports going outside just put some music on what she put on was jazz little Duke Ellington. She just needed some soothing and the Duke and then he needed to go outside just to get a respite from sports just not healthy the sports stimuli and so what ends up happening is things like this where stu gods is trying to read and he can he can never read but this poor even by his illiterate standard get five cents of every gallon every day with market cat reward from Maratha sign up visit. I don't know if this is right Roy. I don't want to give out the wrong information here M. A. K. E. L. T. count dot com or download the free APP today. I gotta give it what how did he spell Macon County so now I'm starting you. Confuse the I in the L. Vic capital saliva right wasn't broken. Oh dashes no dashes but he did capitalize it for you that you could see it was one word but you just storm right through recapitalisations because as I mentioned you're the most literate broadcaster in the history of literacy and broadcast. It should be lower case. I'd up Donlevatar Art. Is it fair to say that STU gods isn't trying very hard. Stugatz the liber tar show with his two guys on on ESPN radio and finally vinyl record sales are set to surpass CD sales for the first time since one thousand nine hundred eighty six sport center's brought to you by advance auto parts that can take advance at anytime one in four batteries is about to fail get a free battery tests and free installation with any any automotive battery purchase only at advance auto parts for all the latest headlines Information Tune into sports center on ESPN radio all throughout the day so for all the up and down with Antonio Tonio Brown. Will he play will he not play. Will he play because of his helmet. <hes> is he trying to fight his general manager. What's going to happen from fighting his general manager <hes> <hes> we left here Friday after all the talking all the noise with Jon Gruden as as we left the show Jon Gruden saying Antonio Brown will play on Monday and so that appeared to be the end of it until Saturday morning when the machine got humming again and it got humming again because of a video you know this guy made which looked surprisingly polished Saturday morning and was part of Antonio Brown's trying to get out of Oakland because they took away his guaranteed money so he was saying release me so Alejandro Narciso of SSD L. N. Creative joins us now on ESPN peon radio because he's the one who put together this video. Thank you for joining US Leandro first of all <hes>. Can you explain to us the the process that you went through that. You arrived that morning deciding to make this video for Antonio would be a supplemental the supplemental video to his wanting out of Oakland it so <hes> it actually wasn't supposed to be like that kind of video at first so I was in. La Hey for work and then I hit baby and I said Hey I want to go and shoot you for the first week so I can make like a cool Monday night football the deal you know I'm used to making like hype videos for people and it was like yeah of course I'm down so first day that I get there. I think it's Tuesday. I tell them oh I wanna go into into the stadium with you and pads. I think that'd be cool and we go and they don't even have the lights on but we shoot them anyway and I was like all right well this puts coolest cinematic and and then things like starts like this roller coaster type away and everything's good and then goes to practice and then you know everything's things bad you know and that plan some few dollars all right. What what did I get myself into and so the day happens where <music> all this stuff is getting thrown into the media where you know like apparently he threatened to punch Mike Mayo which never really happened like that like it was everyone on just walked off and then he went into some meetings like nothing crazy hats and then it was just got spread all over the media that he was about to punch him in the face. Call them a cracker and he's like what what like. My wife is white. Why would I even call credit and then and then <hes> he had a dinner with Gruden and then he got it back into the car. We pick them up and he was like everything's good and I was like okay so I started working on the video and I worked on the video the entire night and I he woke up at like five. Am on this is what I made and I showed him and he's like wow that's beautiful. That's motivational. I love it. I'm like all right. Let's posted and he's like no wait stamp okay so and so he goes to practice everything seems to be good and then we pick them up and he's like yeah like everything's not good. These guys don't stop. They kept saying kept saying welcome back act so <hes> I know left. You know like he's wanting to practice. You want us to practice a day after posting the find in letter which by the way that whole social media consultant thing like that not true like nobody's consultant. He posted that on his own online. He's his own consultant guy like you know what he's doing and anyway <hes> Osman translate. That's okay follow this train. Wherever it goes my friend not to go to practice on Wednesday and he was like okay like you went into the facility getting Mariah. I don't come to practice then everything happened that day and then everything gets settled with Gruden and then the following day eh you know he has like that that meeting with the team and <hes> and everyone like everyone's like oh welcome back. We're glad to have a be back like he's like. What are you talking about? I never left you guys told me not to go to what are you guys talking about and then he also gets a <music> a fine letter where it's like boys his contract and at that point. I was pretty much over because he felt so disrespected that he was like now you had to play essentially essentially week to week for his contract and it was and he'd called the coaches and general managers and owners and he'd be like so you you guys keep saying that you have my back yet. Now I see news that I called Mike Mayock a cracker and you guys voided contracts on week to week so exactly. How do you have my back and then at that point you know there was no like it was a terrible you know so he asked me? You're the video that you made is amazing but it's too. It's too like positive right now. The initial missile video that I made I had to change it up like okay so I like a new shot at the end and I sound bites where it's hidden literally literally saying this is my life and no more games you know all right so and then told the owner he was a nice conversation tation. He said it looks like I just don't think this is GonNa work out for either of us. I don't I don't feel the love from you. Guys the way that you think you you say you do and like I would just I would appreciate it if you released and the owner was like okay you know I'm going to do everything in my power. I'm sorry I just didn't work out and then at that point all right. It's go time like them so he posted it and the second he posted it. I'm getting hit up by bleacher report and all these people like hey can. We posted it goes up to forty cents cents. You're going to go to jail and I just I freaked out. I l. like Oh what did I do and I go in. He's lying. They'd be like hanging out with kids. You're not everything's good but for me. This is all new to me like I'm used to everyone just talking fire. Those not like you're a clown to your moron around now Jesus Christ I I'm not and then I sit down sit down by the pool house like just contemplating contemplating everything else I finals right now like what happened and then it only. It only got crazier 'cause then yesterday I land in Vegas because I had to go shoot something in Vegas and I started getting hit up like Oh oh apparently AV hired social media experts to shoe sale this this release social media experts. I'm literally like a twenty five year old. Nothing plan this whole thing like post what he wants. I'm not as consultant insulting. You know like like Oh yeah it'd be. I I got a guy off this in you. WanNa hire me. Oh it has been a world when I wake up and go take me. You'll live with you on the show. I'm like what's going on cook well. I've got some more questions so many again. Alejandro see so is covered a lot of ground there. Yes he really did one of the most. That's the most amazing answer we've ever ever got into a question firearm. Oh Man. SD L. N. creative <hes> so <hes> so how did you find out that it isn't illegal the goal to <hes> to put that out with without John Gruden's consent so the way that happened. I was shooting him all day. You know like just just documenting everything because eventually it'd be cool to use it in like a a longer form peace and he's talking to your Rosenhaus and then suddenly he goes <hes>. Oh <hes> GRUDEN's on the line so I I. I wasn't really thinking at that point of anything you know I just and I wasn't going to be like hey you're according to the way you know so so we reported it and then I put it in the video and then while we were doing it a B.'s marketing marketing manager calls them and says hey you know that that's illegal so you know post that without him telling him I and I was like damn he's right so I was in the process of taking taking all the GRUDEN's stuff out and then I told they'd be like or like we told him hey just send the video to Gruden and then he wouldn't thinks thinks like we can get some sense that way so my whole thing the entire time when we were waiting for Gruden's response GRUDEN's. It'd be like listen I B. I love you man but you know that's disrespectful. I can't be having you having post like our own conversations. which the response that I think anyone anyone would think was going to happen and then he responds like fifteen minutes later three tech fields while I love it love it? I love it and I was like. Whoa what we're like all right. There are some changed my million a year. Wow thank you for being on with us. Thank thank you we appreciate it. That was amazing. Thank you thank you guys paid the it is paid. They you have to be kidding me homeland. God that was crazy. Ziprecruiter people you do not have to find employees the way you used to let. Ziprecruiter do it for for you. They have made this process very efficient the texts from Gruden wow what do you mean by the Donlevatar. Did you know that Jose Could Seko's finger fell off during a poker game. We did a good show today. Man Sixty eight percent of the audience said so we got to that all job is done stugatz. That's that's a quality program. We put together a job. Everyone live show with as two guys on ESPN radio. I do not want to be too hopeful because I don't want my expectations to get to unreasonable place where I will be disappointed. However since we have been on television we have been trying to be e. News makers that go viral one time that go viral with someone in here dressed in constume that requires explanation so that if the news shows are the blogs WanNa pick something up and people are being introduced to our show for the first time and have no context. They don't understand why today STU gods dressed like Iraq but I'm hoping that that interview right there might be too long because usually the attention spans aren't the attention spans. Don't stay with something for ten minutes but I am hoping that that goes viral the last ten minutes we just did on the air with stugatz wearing a rat costume because everything in there was interesting if you were in your car. We haven't had one of those in a while. If you're in your car you're not leaving your car. Even if you had arrived at your destination because that's what honesty sounds like not the crud you get in the media. Nah nope. That's what honesty sounds like. Hey I was just sort of there and that's what happened and when I was there my credentials and children are not in dispute coach. Kinda like the video so nothing illegal their permission gotten and the way that he told the story th the like everything was good one back and then the next day it wasn't so good got a hold on the video and then everything's Alpher and now he's a Patriot and the League's ruin that kid did it. That kid ruined the league out there to make video. It's like this is too positive. This kid got into a raise. I hope one of you give them a job. He got into the Patriots and and just recklessly that is correct at lebatardshow on twitter. If you want to vote on the polls what do you have. I got the twitter Paul's brought to you by dollar. Shave Club dollarshaveclub delivers the products you used a look feel and smell your best right to your door plus with their handsome discount. The more you buy the more you save go to dollarshaveclub dot com slash. Dan for a special offer at lebatardshow on twitter will the Monday night. Football Music always get excited. Seventy eight percent percent of the audience said yes is the Monday night football music the best sport specific music ever produced sixty percent of the audience said. Yes yes. What else is there who looks like the bigger fool today Jon Gruden or Antonio Brab well. We just upped the stakes if devoted for Antonio Brown of thirty two percent of you did you might want to revisit that sixty eight percent of the audience at wow love them. Well amount means by that. Is there anything better during football season the mocking your friend steam really isn't my friends. Let me have it. We're GONNA spend the whole week doing that too. Poor Chris Cody Greg Cody Mike Ryan and jets Brown dolphins the three biggest embarrassments the sport yesterday eighty three percent of the audience said No. What's more surprising that many dolphins are asking to be traded or that. Many dolphins are willing to stay ninety three percent of the audience said willing to stay as Dijon Jackson been ten yards behind the secondary for two decades. The ninety six percent of the audience said Yes did you a seventy three year old woman could give birth twins by the way ninety one percent of the audience said no is Antonio Brown going to play for the Patriots against the dolphins in his raiders helmet eighty five percent of the audience said yes. Those are the poll. Put what up another poll should we have that kid back on tomorrow. There were more questions to be asked. There were plenty more questions to be asked and it won't be as good as it was the first time time but he was actually in the middle of it so we can find out whether some of these reports were true or not true like he's telling you it's not true and I understand that he's working close close to Antonio Brown but he didn't sound like he was lying. No he sounded like it was a crazy situation. It's like he was telling the truth. I I want want more details. We ran out of we ran out of time <hes> but if you're just joining us just understand that Jon Gruden at the very end after kissing the Antonio Brown but signed off on all that.

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REShow: Ryan Clark. Hour 1 (01-02-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

REShow: Ryan Clark. Hour 1 (01-02-19)

"Orig- is on demand. Your show your schedule. Fifteen minutes after ball dot com. Check out the casts at richeisenshow dot com. Let me tell you without Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice. Why some nights he even slept in his Hoppy skates. Pete practiced and practiced onto one day when he was forty seven Pete realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his gates in the trash, but then he heard how DIKO proud partner of NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out. Everybody welcomed this dish in the rich Eisen show. Happy two thousand nineteen happy new year. Everybody. I'm rich Eisen. Yes. Happy new year to you guys. I'm rich up. Del tufo, you use revived whatever shut you had the password. Fidelis the other night. I'm good used to you. Usa that New Year's party. Maybe we'll maybe we'll deep dive a little bit more. Oh, wow. Two thousand nine thousand nine hundred out with you need to get a new phone. Yep. About that top story here on the rich Eisen show. Okay. You know? The college football playoffs. We're waiting for where we're sitting on Clemson and Alabama and what we saw yesterday. How does that play into the narrative? It's kind of like every game that we see is playing into the narrative is to whether we have the right format. You know, I'm an eight-game guy. And I think there should be an eighteen eighteen guy. We should have eight teams in Ohio State took on Washington in the Rose Bowl yesterday in urban Meyer's, farewell, where everybody showed up from Ohio State, and and watched the buckeyes take care of business, although the back door did in fact open in the fourth quarter by condolences to salute to you of Chris Brockman over there. Okay. Brutal condolence on to twenty nine thousand nine hundred and that passion terrible terrible start the you know, and anything I say about Ohio State comes from the gut because I'm a big ten guy. I'm Michigan guys. We all know that all and I don't I don't mean to go Jim gray on you. You know, we're we're Pete Rose has his big moment and brings up the negative. But all. I can't I could not I still can't believe what we saw in in canton, Ohio in the first week of August. When all the Zac Smith stuff was going on. And everyone was wondering if in fact, it would be the end of the urban Meyer our right now that was all nobody's talking about any of what happened earlier this season. It's totally forgotten and the lions ation of urban Meyer that happened as he said farewell to me was just shocking. But then again, I view it through the lens of having to sit here and talk about everything but urban is a winner use a winner and champion once again, he wins his Rose Bowl. He wins. His farewell eat leaves on top. He won ninety percent of his games as a head coach in the Nash in in the in the NC double NCWA ranks that he has been in dominated for years. And you sit there and wonder could I beaten Clinton? Could they have beaten Alabama because that's the team that they would probably have they've done better than Oklahoma. We've been close would have been close could've been good twain Haskins seen what he could've done against. Clemson. That would have been interesting to see. But but the only team in that, you know, four five six seven eight nine rank that one all the other teams loss. Your Joe lost yesterday to Texas got smoked which well at game was never close me close in the end. Well, it the you know when the game ended, you know when Texas won the Devaux beaver beaver, by the way, not unless you're your love your seventies disco filet Mignon eighties eighties disco. But when when beaver tapped ago prior to the game who thought that was going to be a good idea, by the way, why are we bringing little dogs in front of big steers? I mean, what are we doing here? Right. Why did the Georgia Georgia should have performed much better? And of course, all SEC fans, and I'm willing to take your phone calls at eight four four zero four rich. If if you if you blow your bowl game, that's not an astral semi-final or national final. Then you no longer interested in playing because it just doesn't it? It doesn't matter. But if you win your bowl game, it just is sign of the SEC dominance. Let's just because it just means more. If it just means more to the SEC than Georgia should show up against Texas. But Texas deserves all the praise right? They're back, man. I know so Texas just beats the brakes off of Georgia. Oklahoma isn't hardly within two scores of Alabama. I still say eight teams I still want eight teams. I am not on daunted from eight teams. I think eight teams as much better. I think Washington versus Clemson would have been a better game. Then people think certainly the way that Washington finish the game yesterday on the fourth quarter. We saw some really bizarre coaching decisions from James Franklin out of Penn statement Chris Peterson at the end of the Rose Bowl punting after calling time out with less than four minutes ago needing to scores to tie is really strange. But to me, you know, the New Year's day stuff would have been so much better yesterday. If we had the Rose Bowl in between the two national semifinal games. I mean, come on. Let's play Texas and Georgia over the weekend. Let's play LSU and UCF over the weekend. The granddaddy of them all when the granddaddy of them all is not involved in the national semifinals as a location as it was last year with Baker Mayfield and Oklahoma taken on Georgia an overtime game. It was fantastic. There is no better setting. That looks good on television. Is it doesn't person in any sport anywhere than the? Rose bowl. When the granddaddy of the mole isn't involved in the national semifinal put it in between the national semifinal games on New Year's day. I mean, come on Saturday was fun to watch even though they were blowouts. But it means everything it's the game the bowl games that mean vol most put it on January first, I mean, come on January first you have Bogue aims that matter. The most national semifinal between Clemson and Notre Dame start the Rose Bowl. Then the national semifinal between Oklahoma and Alabama after that. That's the way we should settle into New Year's day. Let's get it right, folks. Eight teams do it this way. And then. Next thursday. You have the national championship game between Clemson and Alabama art. So there's that then NFL we've got CJ Moseley on the program from the Baltimore Ravens defense. The number one ranked defense that Tony romo's said at the end of the game on the broadcast on UBS between the Browns and the ravens with four downs to go essentially when. Param and and Jarvis Landry. Made these incredible fingertip catches on some dime. Throws from Baker Mayfield moving it up against the down field needing just a field goal to just drive the stake in the hearts of ravens fans everywhere. Once again in week seventeen and just like Andy did last year Roma was saying if you want to be the number one defense, you got endgame go get him, and he expected the house to be brought every single down because it didn't happen that way in Kansas City. And that game is the only blemish on Lamar Jackson's record, right? Now's a professional quarterback. The only loss. They could have seven straight wins going into the playoffs under Lamar Jackson right now. If it wasn't for that loss in Kansas City. And and so I I look forward asking C J Moseley if that was their thought process when they got that on the field and Moseley was the one who on fourth and ten picked off Baker Mayfield to finally wrapped the game up. There was no nightmare finish for the ravens this year. They have the AFC north championship in their back pocket. They've got Philip rivers in the Los Angeles chargers showing up on Sunday afternoon for the wild card weekend. We'll chat with him. And the fact that they win the AFC north just stuck it right into the gut of the. Pittsburgh Steeler fan base as they finish up the season out of the playoffs from seven to one two eight two nine six one and home for the holidays. Which is as we all know. The NFL PLs. So now comes the aftermath. For teams that don't make the playoffs comes the aftermath. You fire your coach fire gentle manager you pick through your roster. What are you going to do? And the Steelers have already taken the mantle there your clubhouse leader on the pick. And through the carcass. What in the hell's happening fingers to be pointed and blame to be assigned of the two thousand nineteen non-playing season in the NFL, and they're not even firing their coach that's still not happening. Even though Mike Tomlin. I think for the first time has a huge amount of blame. That is being put on him more than before. Based on what we learned over the last forty eight hours. I kind of made mention there's a lot of rumor and conjecture when we came on the air on Monday, noon eastern time in Pittsburgh heard a lot what was going on Pittsburgh couldn't fully confirm it personally. But I pointed out that they need to check on trade friend Tonio Brown because of whatever's going on between him and his quarterback, and we found out whatever went down between him and his quarterback went down in a Wednesday walk through last week in advance of the Cincinnati Bengals must win home game that was their part of the equation to make the playoffs. They needed Baker Mayfield to beat the ravens and they needed a win at home. And here comes a walk-through in which Antonio Brown, criticized for not running a hot route properly and he throws a ball at his quarterback. And then strolls off the field. All of a sudden comes a knee injury out of all this that we still can't determine his real or not. He doesn't play on Sunday players were stunned to to to learn that Brown had an opportunity to play Sunday apparently is. From what I was told his jersey was put on the pads placed in front as locker, and I guess the way Tom was handling. It was like okay Antonio if you say you can't go look your teammates in the face and say, you can't go, and I guess he looked teammates in the face and said, I'm not going and the only time he said, I am going is when he took his mink coat that he was wearing and left at halftime of the game. They had to win this game to make the playoffs and MRs lay Antonio Brown walks into the facility in handles his business for the week. Certainly wasn't booming. Business was busted. And as I said on Twitter yesterday to a jet fan, saying, let's go get an Tonio Brown who according to Jason lockenfora has in fact asked for a trade. Big bend. Can't be a day at the beach to play with. Where he's constantly taking responsibility as a team leader while in the same sentence on his Tuesday radio show. Talking about who else should share the responsibility of why the team's not winning from center that pushes a defensive lineman too deep into the end zone where he throws a ball because receiver didn't run the proper route. And another receivers jumping instead of running through a route to catch a ball. We can go on and on. And the x Ray machine didn't come out with a good enough of a of a picture about the ribs. There's always something. It's always something else. There's always someone else. There's always something extra involving Big, Ben. But he still is a first ballot hall of Famer. And if you as a dominant highly paid wide receiver. Can't figure out how to get on the same page with a first ballot hall of fame quarterback, then why should any team acquire him? And stick them with a second year franchise face quarterback and say you figure it out with Sam darnold. I mean, I I don't know what the market's going to be Fran Tonio Brown. But I think the Steelers should figure it out unless Mike Tomlin decides to put his foot down with Tonio Brown because the same way that he handled it apparently in Pittsburgh last week was for him to say, okay Antonio. You say you've got an injury and can't play. Then you tell your teammates. You don't wanna go. Instead of basically saying well you strolled off the field and throwing a ball at the quarterback on a. On a walk-through day. And then didn't show up as a matter of fact, according to the Pittsburgh post gazette he didn't show up to a mandatory meeting prior to the week in New Orleans where he did ball out. But at some point there are some people in the locker room look into a coach saying when are you gonna discipline this guy because I know you do the same to me. So you got a coach that you have some players looking at saying, do you have control of this situation or not and you've got a coach basically saying, well, I'm trying to control the situation by treating them as men. Even though I still do need to discipline a somebody. But I don't want to. I guess penalized the team on the field because somebody can't handle their business professionally. And I also don't want bench the best receiver technically in the game. Even though my own players voted you Smith Schuster a team MVP instead of Antonio Brown. And then I got a quarterback. Who had a ball thrown at him in a walk through and then on his radio show. This sound Mike del tufo when point blank. Asked. What happened in practice? Antonio Brown said this in practice on Wednesday that set this off. That's the kind of baffling thing to me is people are making a big deal about a walk-through on Wednesday that there was a blow up fight between between he and I I don't know anything about that. If there was a blow up or something I should affected it. I consider if you wanna closest president team. So I'm not really sure why where someone is coming from. I've reached out to numerous times or call them text them, I know other guys team to and haven't heard back from him but Thursday morning, and I talked and there was there was no issue. So I'm not really sure. So outlook one when you could say he's covering for the guy. What's going to come out and say, you know, what we did get into an altercation, and I need to do a better job of not calling them out. Or I need to do better job of figuring it out myself. Put out guys and other points season. I mean, a holy heck of a mess. Mike Tomlin's meeting with the media right now, we will get as much information as possible as we can while we talked to Ryan Clark, former Pittsburgh Steeler now of ESPN. He went on Scott van pelt, the VP sports of the other night and told the story about when he was playing with Antonio Brown Antonio Brown. I got his first big contract when Mike Wallace was on the team and the team did not pay Mike Wallace potato paid Antonio Brown. Instead and Ryan Clark saw signs at that point of how a monster would be created. When Antonio Brown was getting paid. Here's the scoop Antonio Brown makes next year. If he's on the roster cost twenty two million dollars on the Steelers cap if he is traded before June first, which is exactly what needs to happen. Because you gotta get your draft choices you're not gonna get real players back for Antonio Brown and get draft choices. You gotta use them right away. It cost twenty one million dollars on the Steeler cap. In other words, if it costs just one million more to play them, you're gonna figure out how to play instead of twenty one million dollars on using draft choices that is just not going to happen. 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I don't think they're firing the coach I don't think that you're getting rid of the first ballon hall of fame quarterback. I mean, I think all three guys will be on the team next year in order to do that. We have to sit down with everybody in the room. And I guess if I'm Mike Tomlin. I look Antonio Brown in the face. And I say, we have a different arrangement. Now. However, I've been handling you is a problem in the locker room. And any anything like what happened on Wednesday? Anything like what happened with the Facebook live stuff? You're now going to be sitting games. And you're not going anywhere an Tonio, and that's your quarterback and Big Ben that you're wide receiver. And and let's figure out a better way on how to communicate with each other in a walk through where you don't feel like you're being called out by a quarterback and embarrassed let's figure it out. Because again, everything coming out of Pittsburgh. And I don't know if it's because it's coming from Ben or not it's it's Antonio Brown. Not being able to run a route properly and a hot route and being called out in front of the team and him feeling like he's disrespected. And I don't understand how he feels like he's disrespected he's. He's gonna make he's got a cap charge next year. Twenty two million bucks. He is widely believed it the best one receive. There isn't a gang. So but in terms of running their time out, I mean in terms of the one most viable to be sent packing. It's Antonio Brown. The question is though is that's not the question. We're asking the question who do you think should be? Done with their time is up eight four four two four riches the number to dial on that front as well. Vote on our poll question, you know, what I'd like to do later on next hour is where does Tonio Brown rank now on the top five roster decisions that need to be made. Okay. Based on the first blush news at the end of the season. There's a lot of dicey roster decisions that need to be made give you my top five. We'll do that next down for the moment is Ryan Clark on the phone line. Right. Yes. He is. All right as promised joining us from the worldwide leader in sports where he is done. Terrific works stepping off the field in the National Football League spent eight years with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He is Ryan Clark. How I Ryan. Are you? I'm doing better. We haven't spoken in a long long time. You do a great job you doing a great job. And I really appreciate it. You bet. So I just wanna get right into it. Because I know you're at the underarm game, right? We're mariucci's try not to screw things up on the sidelines. UT has the control. I believe he's actually coaching my son. Are you serious playing in the game? So I think the coach which is doing a great job guys. I'm not a big time yet. So I'm just hoping eight great game. I one day. I'll move to that stick. Okay. Great. Let's get into the here. And now, obviously with Antonio Brown and Big Ben and Mike, Tom what in the world. Do you think is happening there right now because it short? I I think this is something that is just grown over time. Rich, I think coach Tomlin does a great job with letting players skied individuals and letting players have their own personality. And I think some of that is some guys don't understand how to handle it. And you know, I told the story on SDP the other night and for good, bad or worse. Whatever people. So how about it? But it's a true story. You know, I'm standing in in the weight room as twenty bra Wong's by on the day that he's supposed to finish his deal. And I talked to the strength coaches hesser coz, I say, listen, we all give this money. Young crater Masa gonna have to be able to handle it on. Sure enough. The next practice we go out. And it's it's one on one kina is playing it gets a little too physical. And he starts you franchise. You can't put your hands on me like that. He gets into it with coach Bigalow. Bowl was a hall of Famer someone that Shaw. And I, you know, question talk to that way. And he and I almost come to blows. You know over that just 'cause I just didn't like the attitude. I did like the star of that. And then we've seen different things throughout his career progress and come to light publicly, and some of those things rich, obviously, they obviously pale in comparison to many things that's happened behind doors that people don't know. And I think just in the locker room in general, they just had enough of it. And from what I hear from talking to different people there that situation his growing, you know, discontent with the team with certain things as really worn on this team as years progressed, Mike Tomlin, speaking to the media as you, and I are talking right now Ryan, and you know, the question is is has he lost control of the situation. I mean, you could essentially make that case viably right now. What do you think, you know, what, you know? I think he hasn't control in the way that he wants to the way that he feels he needs to obviously to me on the. Outside looking in. I feel you have lost control is becomes down to costing you winning football games. It becomes down to the fabric of the locker room. And where it needs to be. And I was like you look on the other side of the rich and you've been around forever. Dan that good players get certain leeway. And you know, I would venture to say that many of us believe in Tonio Brown is one of the best players in the cell. So I think it's allowed him a little latitude in the way that he's been dealt with. But I think coach Tomlin really has to look into this situation now in the all season and see having Tonio on that team with this production with what he can bring to the field. If that outweighs the problems that he's causing now the locker room and now also publicly that these things are starting to see into Tony Brown. Not even dressing out for games and being in the mink coat leaving. You know, reportedly at halftime Ryan Clark from ESPN here on the rich Eisen show. Former Pittsburgh Steeler. Well, the thing that makes us a three dimensional game of crazy chess. Roth is that Big Ben also has had a lot of leeway given his way and for him to go on his radio show this week and say, he doesn't know. Where this coat unquote comes from about an altercation at a through that everybody who was there and is said on the record or off the record to reports to me to me. He had the ball thrown at him. So how can sit there and say what he said and say, I welcome him with open arms when you can't tell what's going on in from who Ryan. Well, it was here. Here's what I'll say the way I see the situation. Obviously, we've seen been at different times say things publicly about players, you know, whether it be on the field officer of the way, it was about Levy on the way, those about Martavis in different things where he had to bring to light some of the things we didn't look didn't know if you look at this situation, rich, she doesn't have to right. Like, you say you had people. Whether it's on the record author record saying these things happen, right? Saying this happened to Tony Brown. So now, here's an. Opportunity. We're being doesn't have to be the bad guy. Right. Ben doesn't have to tell us. What happened because we're hearing it from different places been doesn't have to say that. He wouldn't welcome Antonio Brown with open arms because other people whether it because Tomlin Kevin Cobra the GM the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now, they have to deal with this is Ben gets opportunity to be neutral to be a leader to protecting Tonio Brown in some sort of way because everyone else is telling the story. And so for for been to come out and say what he said, I'm not sure why sure he has a most behind it. I'm sure he has has a reason maybe it's because Tony was catching so much like and he wants to take some of that off of them. But you know, I think you know, you, and I and many others believe that this altercation did happen to believe that something needs to be done. Whether it's finding a way to comments on the finding a way to punish them or finding a way to shop and get something back from him. Because you can't lose him the. Thing where you lost levian Bill. If you feel like you can't be a part of this team. Well, he's asked for trade, according to Jason lockenfora, and you know, the Steelers rarely accommodate team players that do this sort of thing. We just saw what happened with Levy on bell. And as I mentioned at the top of our program the salary cap situation. It would cost them twenty one million dollars to get rid of him trade or cut, and it's gonna be trade and twenty two million of them. So it's it's it makes no sense to trade him essentially unless he is such a problem. So what what does the what's the out here? I mean with Rooney Tomlin Big Ben AB. What what's what's the solution? Here. Do you think I don't like, you know, when you look at the numbers, there's feasible out? Right. When you look at the numbers, and you look at business, which football is in makes more sense to keep him on the team. I think that that's what they're going to try to do. I like I said in talking to people who ball players know how to play right if. 'antonio Brown comes to play. It's audio ground behaves in the way, the locker room and own the field and makes him at least decent teammate. I believe he's a guy you want. But can you make that happen other pieces, you can put in place if your coach Tomlin to ensure that that's the way that this team because we all believe they have the talent we all believe they have the pieces, but when you see the season like we seen this year which much in fighting with different people coming out in the media. And exposing some things that usually on exposed active players on teams. It just seems to me that you find an in house solution while keeping him there. But that's gonna be the challenge from my town, and that's gonna be the challenge for about his birth where Tony Brown because there's a window for the Pittsburgh Steelers currently constructed closing now. And do you waste time. Trying to get rid of Antonio Brown and rebuild or keep him and figure out a way to make this relationship. Tenable that last one for you Ryan who's. Lost the locker room the most Antonio Brown, Ben Rothlisberger. Or or Tomlin because there are some players that are not happy with the way that Tomlin handled last week situation. I would have to say it's coach Tomlin in the sense that you know. And obviously like I love I believe in everything. He does always have a followed everything he said, but I believe the it missed situation players are waiting for him to do something to fix then Tonio Brown situation players are waiting for him to step in and do something that only makes or hose Antonio accountable but also allows him to play and help his team win gains. And when you have a situation that you allowed to get to this point. And then that allowing it to get to this point, you sit your best player, and that best player doesn't come out and still Aguirre. It doesn't come out to support. The team has on a meat coat and leave it shows his lack of respect for your thirty. So something has to be done. Something has to be fixed. And I believe it also has to be public because this situation has become so police over coach Tomlin this is going to be. A a very pivotal moment. It was all ready been his long haired coaching career, Pittsburgh. Well, enjoy the under armor game hanging out there broadcasting with ESPN and then watching your somewhat position does he play. Plays corner. He plays court, and he's gonna go. He's gone ASU next year the play for her. Excited about that. That's mazing. That's fantastic worked out, really. Well. Okay. Well, congrats on that Ryan. And again, don't let screwed up. I mean, he's already got it all set. So don't let them screw. How makes to tell them? You said that today. I mean seriously of all prime prime could maybe teach them and think about locking down at that position. You know, moved the head coach's experience leaning excellent. Ryan, thanks for the call. Great job as always with ESPN. And I'd love to have you back on the show soon. Thank you so much receivable. That's Ryan Clark of ESPN and formerly the National Football League year in the rich Eisen show. That's good stuff. At a Ryan Clark. Imagine. Again, you have a kid who plays corner. One coach the under game as Dion Sanders. Another Steve Mariucci that'd be kind of like one of my kids loves music, which they do like Zan loves music loves dancing loves music. Let's all of that. And he's in the care of you, Brockman, right? Of course, instead of my because I mean, you love music, but that guy Deloitte, Foale is. Musica, and I think Dion would greatly. Appreciate me acquainting him with you. Thank you, rich like think you went to. But I'm out that guy who might have lost the locker room the most as Tomlin. Because why why give why did Tony Brown have a chance to even play Sunday? If he stormed off the field on Wednesday at a walk through in front of a whole team. According to what I'm reading right here. And I'm gonna take the break here because Ed bouchette of the Pittsburgh post gazette was live tweeting. Yeah. The Mike Tomlin press conference during the conversation, though, as Dedi it looks like Tomen heard from drew Rosenhaus Antonio Brown's agent Sunday morning that Brown was ready to play. And they expected him to show the question. Why would even have a shot at playing? Yeah. We'll Tomlin's response was that's not really how it goes the how it works. And the you don't the coach is talking to the agent on the game day that you need more than any other game day. Wow. What a mess. And then, of course, Antonio Brown tweets during the press conference we to hear all that. I'm trying to decipher what he did to because I'm looking at a out of one I all the stuff on Twitter having conversation with Ryan Clark will do all that at eight four four two zero four rich number dial as well. 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And that's extremely successful. That's going to be a twenty percent drop. You just went seventy percent as a twenty percent drop. And you know, do we have a urban Meyer sound bite with? With tomor. Nali after the game. Okay. This is what Herbert had to say. The moment has come. What do you reflect upon a reflect on? I'm very blessed person with my family, very blessed. I've had some of the best coaches in college football coach for me. And you look at our rosters over the years as we've had the best players ever played this game. And very proud of that never is a very big word. What are the chances will never see you lead another team out of a tunnel. I don't believe that's going to happen. Joy tonight. I don't believe I want to coach you. Dot's. Yeah. Read. Well, I mean to say, I don't believe what does that mean? Clone. Ever. I'm never going to coach again exactly as I'm standing here right now. I'm never coaching. I don't believe that you'll ever have Harragan, but it's possible and likely that you will. Know what I mean? I don't believe I'm going to get my hair done. Right. Right. Correct. I don't believe that. Two years. We might see you, you know, running your hand three hair convertible. Yeah. Convertible turned fifty this year. You never know what the hell. I'll take this has been life at fifty. I'll take that right now. Did you have the way that they were planning on airing the Tom analogy conversation? Yeah. Okay. Go for it looks here. Can you replay the Tom Rinaldi sound for me? Please reread it back now that we have the proper music. 'cause when Tom Rinaldi sticks microphone in front of you. It's a totally different ball of wax. When you have this music. Oh, for here now urban Meyer, the moment has come. What do you reflect defined? Very blessed person with my family of re blessed I've had some of the best coaches in college football, socially. And you look at our rosters over there as we've had the best players ever played this game. And a very never is very big word. What are the chances will never see you lead another team tunnel. Boy can happen from joy tonight. I don't believe when got. Together. Get you get you. Right. Where you live. So. I'm trying to read what at Bush, Ed and de Kinkel, blah or tweeting out about this. It seems like at times Tomlin didn't give an answer. And then at times he got he flashed some very strong statements about Antonio Brown. Okay. Okay. Here. We got we've got some soundbites Mike Tomlin. All right. I I don't know how to set it up. So just roll what you got over there. Mike del tufo woke up Sunday morning and got a call from his agent. Rosenhaus drool express that he was feeling better. And that he would potentially be able to participate land the drew that decisions were made like that. But I would be interested in visiting with him in person stadium prior to the game but playing on the menu. So drew relate that to him I met with AB prior to the game. He asked what he could do as the best thing he can do in terms of helping us win the game to be there and support his teammates. Playing wasn't on the menu. What was that? What what what's the conversation? Like can't go coach. Okay. You got anymore soundbites over there is that the only one that we've got cut so far. Okay. We're still getting getting more. Thomaz asked if he thought that he quit on if Antonio Brown quit on the team, quote, you can call it. What you wanna call it? Change is part of this is what he said but won't say whether there's any changes in his staff yet Antonio Brown also did not show up for Monday meetings. According to Mike Tomlin, it's twenty one million bucks. If you train them before June first, and if you train them before you have to train them before the draft behalf to you have to have to and it will get Amari Cooper first round pick. It we two number ones friend, Tonio Brownlee. What's the price tag? So I've got a got the Antonio Brown tweak, and we put that up on the screen if we have it for the television audience the Tonio Brown tweet it's him smiling. Beautiful photograph of black and white photograph a close up of him in in profile smiling. Happy new year be great is what he tweeted out as the as the copy. And then the photograph has next to it the words my option. My options may seem limited by people or circumstances. It is then that I remind. Myself. I am in command of my attitude. I n divinely blessed with free will utilize that gift choosing to take charge of my life to express the creativity vitality and wholeness that truly defines me. Eight four four zero four rich. If you want to have no idea what that means. I have no idea what that suggests. None zero. I don't know what to make that. He is an incredibly talented football player. I mean, he has a hall of fame resume that is being we've together from the position. There's no other way to put it. He is. The top behind del Beckham paid receiver in the NFL. He is by all accounts of anybody that that talks about the sport for living. This always one of the first names that come out of your mouth retail best receivers in the game number one. Okay. And then when it comes to fellow players. George kettle when all of this went down from the forty Niners tweeted out sup me the forty Niners putting him out there for Garoppolo. Mckinnon comes back healthy kill there at the wide receiver at the tight end position Goodwin on the other side. The they ready go. So why can't you tell the forty Niners? All right. Second overall forty Niners. Would you give second overall pick up as one of the first round selections, not even gonna think twice about it? 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But let's examine for a second. The macro. A thirty one year old receiver under contract with no leverage under contract for several years. Decided through social media. To nuke the team of the Rooney's and football and the Pittsburgh Steelers. He decides to nuke this even though he's under contract. He doesn't have any real power. He just has the power to make a mess. Now. The next thing that has to happen is the Rooney family first family of football has to get out of the way because I'll Davis scarecrow kid has given to media members a whole bunch of power to people. He picked off television to just pick them off television. People who are around football talking about football. I'll take may Aachen Gruden right? Those are two guys who already traded number one receiver not as good as this number one receiver leads you know, everybody in touchdowns the last few seasons. But Antonio Brown has just ended up through social media as a very. Diva a very bad rebel, a very bad martyr in terms of being under the thumb of the man and the mustache. This dude got exactly what he wanted. And the Steelers got bleeped the Steelers did not get what they wanted. The raiders got what they wanted and Tonio Brown just rigged the system, and it was like watching a clown car show up in front of the Pentagon a tiny clown gets out with a blond moustache and the Pentagon crumbles like this is the Pittsburgh Steelers. The first family football. He makes a mess on Facebook. Nobody can control him. He gets everything he wants location. Now, you ain't train me to the bills. I thought to the bills are you saying they botched this. I'm just marveling at how it happened is amazing. It really it should be the playbook if the broad could do what he didn't took thousand ten now every diva wide receiver in the league has the playbook just make a mess. These teams can't handle that they don't know what to do with the social media. They're too old. They're there to stuck in their regimented establishment ways and the Rooney's get scared by the social media guy. And what? Happens. The Steelers get bleeped Antonio Brown gets everything he wants. And Furthermore, another layer of this more complicated. The two black guys with the Steelers. Having a problem that they were willing to extend rothlisburger early Ropley. They've got a policy don't extend people early. They did it for the guy who's got a lot on his resume. That's worse than what twenty Brown and later on bell have on their resume. If you don't think that's a problem. You ain't paying attention to any race relations in the locker room when the organization sides with the quarterback and extends him outside of policy and won't give the money to the other guys one of whom was dramatically underpaid. Antonio Brown was dramatically underpaid for four years. He agreed to that contract though. That's fine. But that's the rules in a leave. It shouldn't have a salary cap. You grade to that contract with the contracts are inherently unfair. And you're right. He should have honored the contract that would have been the more professional way to do it. However, you tell me if he got rewarded for honoring the contract. I mean, listen he went from zero guaranteed dollars over thirty million guaranteed dollars. He got exactly what he wanted to raise easy. It's crazy. A clown car. Just knocked over the establishment because this. Look ryen russillo was asking this question on Twitter because everybody's gonna take sides on this nonsense. He's he's saying here I've been trying to think of the most conversational way to ask this question. Do some of you think the players never wrong in the way, they go about trying to change their situation. I'm starting to feel that way Antonio Brown was wrong. But he just got rewarded for it in the most spectacular way when no leverage. Here's thirty million extra guaranteed. You can leave and you can go exactly to the west coast. Like you want? Don't you think most teams though with all that said everything Ben's past Antonio's past you think most teams side with the quarterback. I mean, that's that's the most important one. That's right now at this point Antonio Brown's better at what he does than Ben Rothlisberger is what he does and his younger, and is more valuable given his contract situations, you can make that argument in front, but it short-sighted the sealer just nuked themselves for several seasons here because they are taking a cap head on this as if he were still on the team like the Steelers got bleeped here up and down bleeped by two guys. Ben rothlisberger. Thirty seven years old. We've already seen his production godown is certainly not the same quarterback, especially on the road. He is now pushed away 'Antonio Brown. Someone that has helped extend his career a career that Ben Rothlisberger doesn't seem fully committed to because he can't give straight answer as to whether or not he's going to retire because of health reasons would be with his family. He's there's some far vibes. Here doesn't want to help the young quarterback. Sort of has an attitude problem just been accused by a former teammate of fumbling on purpose when he didn't like a play call in an ten point game in the fourth quarter. These are things that if they followed a quarterback that looked like saying Tonio Brown would be a bigger issue, especially when you consider the pass that somehow Ben Rothlisberger has largely gotten away with and hasn't really had stick to him in a way that it might have a quarterback looked like around you can't reward this behavior you because it was a total clown show. We have not seen an ad. Athlete behave this kind of unprofessionally in the game and a long time. And he just got everything you wanted only because he was willing to make a mess. This is weird. Normally, you're the guy, that's pro athlete in chaos and against the establishment. And you seem to be on the Steelers. You are so wrong about this. What I'm saying is you don't have to take a sign and Tonio Brown Ken be wrong. But the system just rewarded him. I don't care whether he's wrong, right? I'm more fascinated that football for all its rules all its discipline. We're going to be tough. We're going to be stronger than you. We're going to be more of a man than you. We're going to go into retirement limping and die early. Hey, never mind would just lost a small clown with with a terrible mustache, which just loss. We like he just kicked our bleep up and down the field. You don't between doing, you know, mass singer and dancing with the stars. I love it. I think he looks perfect through what he's doing great. I'm not disputing them. This great. I love it. I just think that he the pioneer is a clown. And I love all of it. I love the energy in it. Because. All the contracts, you believe in think about the coach he has he just trampled a drill. Sergeant. Just trampled him here. Never mind. The rest of your career here is not going to be a whole lot fun pioneer. Mcdonald's is Ronald and our great for him. It's a great point. It is an excellent point. The pioneer mcdon-. I put it on the poll better clown to lead movement. Ronald McDonald, earn Tonio Brown donlevatar. Guillermo sassy. Stugatz sexy. When you're Sesing VC's live at our show with two guys on ESPN radio. So if James Dolan is not the worst owner in sports, he is a hall of fame loser. As an owner. He's not the worst. He's in the conversation. Now that Donald sterling has been run out of that league. And so we've got some sound for you from basketball from James Dolan. And a lot of people have been telling James Dolan for years to sell the Knicks TMZ has some sound here. That is funny and interesting, but before we get to it. Let's just get to that. Troy Aikman story involving Michael Irvin. And Alvin Harper because the way that I had always heard the story was that Michael Irvin? Ran down the field chasing Alvin Harper with a touchdown. That was supposed to go to Michael Irvin. Let's hear Troy Aikman. Tell that story. True or false Alvin Harper was running in the Super Bowl with the football. And Michael was chasing him a touchdown for Alvin Harper Michael was chasing him because it was an audible yelling. That's touchdown. You're running with my touchdown. That's my touchdown. Well, that was that was in the NFC championship game. Our first one in ninety two and we had called this play. It was eight ninety six flat in the six curl route. And the eight was the skinny post, and and Michael had been running skinny post the entire game. And I'd never thrown it, and he has been running the curl or Alvin Harper, Ben running the curl and based on coverage. Every time we call that playing the game. It it pretty much went to Alvin Harper. And so there late in the game we call eight ninety six f flat Michael would do this from time to time. He would try to line up where he thought the ball was going to go. And so he told Alvin, hey, you run the post I'm going to run the curl because that's where he thought it would. Thrown again, what's interesting about that. Is that I think because Michael went to run the curl. Is it created the coverage that we alternately? I don't know that we would have gotten the same. Look at Michael was the one running that route. But, you know, Alvin taxes the ball and Michael believes that he would have been the guy getting it had he not sold Alvin changed position. Yes. He was running down the field claiming that you know, he was happy as he could be it was not a selfish act on his part. But he was screaming that that was his ball. And it should have been him making that. It is a funny thing and the most cloudy, I mean after Ocho Cinco Tarallo wins. Michael irvin. The most clowney unprofessional behavior from diva wide receiver. We've seen is from this guy with the died mustache, you know, between takes on the mast singer and dancing with the stars. Totally nuking the Steelers we will talk to Bill Barnwell about that. Because I really am. I I'm really startled that all of this worked out with the Steelers taking a beating and in Tonio Brown getting everything that he wanted when he had no real power except to make a mess. How did this work out perfectly for Antonio Brown? I think about that. Well, he's really good. That's that's how it worked out perfect. I mean team had them would zero guaranteed dollars. They could have just kept him. And he turned that into thirty plus million by missing a football game. You know, what to do to get out of Pittsburgh and the pillar of professionalism? That is. Is the Rooney's. Go ahead and hire drew Rosenhaus and be something less than a pillar of professionalism. Unless of course, you're the quarterback with two rings. Then they'll pay you forever. I want to get to Bill Barnwell in about fifteen minutes. But before we do that how bad is this James Dolan sound Mike because the Knicks exist just to be laughed at and James Dolan is getting told by everybody for years that he should sell the team. And what does he do? He does what bad dictators? Do he tries to kick people out of the facility here. The sound comes courtesy of TMZ sports. Want to come to anymore games? That's rude. And you know, enjoy watching them on TV if what bring him home for cabinet all the cabin old infra Kevin. Any ken? What's anyone going to do about it boss move? It is a boss move. I mean, but listen those fans who care about that team, and that organization so much and have endured so much Barrasso in so much losing they deserve the right to say James sell the team, and they should be able to say that without dulling. Oh, but he's got the power. And no one's going to do anything about it. What are they going to do is the Commissioner going to find him for doing that to one of the customers? Or is it Commissioner gonna hide under his desk because the owners are in charge. What would you do? I would not allow an owner to treat my customers that way, and especially not that owner because everyone's fed up with that owner in the way that sterling got gone is not because of the racist things. He said it's because everybody was fed up with that owner like everyb- all the other owners didn't want him around. He was consistently embarrassing other owners, and this guy's doing the same thing. Like, he's he think about this who second place right now for worse donor. I don't I think this is the consensus numb. Number one overall, pick worst owner in sports, go ahead and give me an we're including the one whose company was indicted and football and speaks to homeless people to draft his quarterback the Rooney's are in that conversation right now, they are not. You don't have a better contribution than that. That's the best. I don't have a war zone or anywhere at sports than than James Dolan. I mean, he's the absolute worst. But I am holding out hope that we get direct Kyrie Irving and Zion. Williamson. And then he becomes the best owner sports Dolan was right on that wasn't an opinion from that guy isn't cleared sentence. His right on sell the team is not an opinion. Yeah. Should sell the team and opinion. So that was semantics that Dolan was kicking him out for. Yeah. Well, yes them like what what do you mean? My opinion. He's like, no, it's not he wins point. Well, he wins in every way. Right. And keeps getting except for you know, the place that matters which is in the uniform. I mean, it's your stance on not allowing an owner to talk to people this way is an interesting one. No, no, no. It's denying them the pain customer access to the arena. It's not the he could say back, whatever he likes. He could what he can't do is have security escort a paying customer out for that. Yeah. Because I just always assumed your. Just because you have a ticket doesn't allow doesn't give you the right to treat people like this because it doesn't. But once the owner does that and really honestly, the owner can do that just don't get caught doing that. Once there's a video of an owner saying that to a paying customer, if you're the Commissioner, you ought to find the owner Daniel Snyder put it on the pole Guillermo at lebatardshow, who's the worse owner, James Dolan or Daniel Snyder, I'm gonna give zone some credit. He actually was pretty polite in banning this person for I told him on joy watching television time video could have gone a lot worse. If he were he was mad at the guy and he handled it his tone got outta line. I'm citing James Dolan. That's his move is to ban people. Didn't who didn't do it. Did he do it to Charles ultra trains course? He did also told him to sell the team. He's got him arrested. I mean, you got him arrested in front of everyone acknowledges it square. He lost that one of the court of public opinion. But it's actually these are boss moves from James Dolan. The team doesn't have to be good for there to be a demand for season tickets. He's speaking from a point of leverage, and it's a privilege to have those seats. No matter how bad they are. I'm just imagining this Kevin guy. He said hold him for Kevin. What is Kevin do? I imagine Kevin was a big black cloak. I'm afraid of the guy that's holding them for Kevin. Can you imagine? How about Canada's? If he's like everyone else with the next. He's not any good at whatever that job is. You don't think they're gonna kick people out of that arena? The best they need to give. There's only two instances that we've ever spoken about. And they've actually been pretty embarrassing for the organization. So maybe they're the only time we talked about the Knicks. Last season's is what they're doing things. Like this. It's been about eight years since we talked about the Knicks. And it's only when TMZ sports is a finger around somebody's telling James Dolan to sell the team. Some other good basketball sound came from Jeff Van Gundy. We will get Stu gods is weakened up survey ships here in about forty five minutes per play the Van Gundy sound trading LeBron. And look I think in the off season they have to retail this roster. Right. It could be true. Four and Anthony Davis or I think they need to export trading. Lebron for dealing as much as they can what are you doing? No seriously. What are you doing? No. You gotta get on the right time. If I could trade him for the clippers into cap space, which could give me a better chance to get Durant or Kawhi Leonard. Would I not do that? The bronze aims not get training. Okay. You got to put everything on though, you can I hear from the players now is business. Everything is business. It's business than I have to do with festive my business. I'm not saying, you definitely trade him up saying everything on the table to get this team better. But bottom line, there's no way that's happening. How do you know? I can't believe it. That Gerald is presenting the quarterly budget report with finger puppets. Look here comes one point seven percent decrease in fixed overhead. Hello, everybody. No. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance guy. Go are you Bill projected increase in organic Khukri revenue? Believe it. Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. 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Do you think you would like to try milk coke? Yes. Or no Bill Barnwell is with us. Now, he wrote an article about Antonio Brown that you could check out on ESPN dot com. It sort of explains everything that happened here. And if you're someone who likes the little details that make transactions happen in sports. You will appreciate the information in this article. Let's start here with Bill. Thank you for joining us. How the bleep Bill how how can a player who's thirty one with? No, real power end up just turning the establishment upside down knocking over the Rooney's ruining the Steelers and getting everything he wanted out of the deal when he had no real leverage contractually. Social media is a wonderful thing. And I think at some point I mean, he just used what he had to go. We wanted the Steelers. I mean, some of the fact that he was not worth the when I kind kinda figured they thought they were gonna get a first round pick. And then in the long run and attorney got a free and a five with her. No better offers out there Bill. I mean, it seems crazy a third and a fifth round pick for it. Tonio one of the best receivers football. I mean, you felt was going on and you know, in the media, right? You been leaking out? We wanna first pick. Well, we don't need a first topic. We'll settle for a second round pick maybe headlines Friday. It's not Friday. I think they were desperate, and they had Bill offer that was the nine for the twenty Tonio Brown. So that might have been a little better. But it's not the sort of I you know, standard I offer. They might have expected them januar- didn't Tonio Brown indeed nuke that buffalo deal by simply making a mess in public and saying he was going to retire. If he got traded there. I don't think. So I think you hear us accidental situations a lot when it comes to trade because someone say interested if he went here, and I don't think he wanted to. I didn't think buffalo with a great. I don't think there's hoping factor executives. I don't think they wanna tolerate until Brown who I think it's a great player. But who has that we some legitimate off-field concerts? Do you know who was advising Antonio Brown and telling him to make a big public mess was derozen Houser? Was it someone else? I have no idea. I mean, you figure has it makes sense. But at some point, I mean, this is N Tonio Brown's doing your house works for Antonio Brown. Not the other way around. So I mean, this client typically, don't do this sort of thing. But I'm turning Brown. I mean, we wanted something different. And it seems to work his client, no clients. Do this sort of thing. There is no such thing as a client who does this sort of thing. She the Bill any like, I'm sorry. No, no like, I can tell you problem wanted to Pittsburgh at some point. And I think. Lady handled. It ended up getting more. He wanted for better or worse. The Bill barn will show every Monday and Thursday. You can listen on the ESPN app or apple podcasts. Can you explain to the audience the salary cap mechanisms, and you explain to them what you've found interesting about why it is in Tonio Brown would be upset that Ben Rothlisberger would get extended going against the Steelers policy, but they wouldn't extend him the same sort of value. Yes. Coming up around twenty fifteen that playoff game against the Bengals. He gets knocked out concussed the by vantera perfect in that game. Then we could have penalty winning that game. He can't play in the next round. He's been the best receiver in football for three years at that point in a row. He's making that seven million dollars a year about half of what the rest of the NFL's top rec- was making and that offseason still say well policy is not to extend a player with less than one year, meaning on his deals. We're not gonna offend me. Because he was two years near deal. But we're going to be coupled with extending than rothlisburger who has two years left on his contract. You understand why on the might not be with the organization from that point photo, isn't that the source of everything right there that that Ben continues to beat him up that management sided with Ben on an extension, and he's like bleep this somebody give me my money. Of course. And he should I mean realistically defended off our after two years, even eight and a half million dollars. Which was a good Beck by the field. And it turned out to be such a good bet that by the middle of that contract. He was the most underpaid veteran in all flip. Also, they could have done things could've added more money for the deal that they waited and waited and waited and they wanna they paid him reasonably and twenty seventeen he has no guaranteed money left on his contract. This is his last chance to get money. And he got it from Oakland. The Bill barn will show Monday and Thursday, listen on the ESPN app or apple podcasts. Bill is with us now on ESPN radio. So can you explain to us when in Tonio Brown all of this that happens in the shadows in the background? Can you explain to us? What do you say to the person who says, hey Antonio honor your contract? I mean team on our contracts players do poorly. You know, this is the two street, and I think it felt cancer got away with a lot of this for a long time. I don't think Antonio Brown's shave. Here we seventeen is something that I would recommend or suggest that other players follow. I don't think that was especially cool. But you know, the the slowest has done plenty of things where they've got fires happened productive. So Antonio Brown's fighting for what he thinks is right. I, you know, I don't agree with every case. I can't fault them in some cases better. How about the people who are saying give me a break with underpaid? You sign that contract. You made a lot of money. Yeah. I mean, listen, Ernie families with a lot more money than Antonio Brown. And they're not getting concussions for planning on the field. So that's one of the NFL players certainly deserve more than what they get right down. So I can't I don't think Antonio is under different what he risks and given how he's produced over the past few ses Billy left a really good situation. And a great quarterback a great quarterback that he clearly doesn't like. But do you think the numbers will suffer it all in Oakland? They will. I mean, obviously, Derek Carr the same caliber quarterback. He hasn't had Jewish sister on the opposite side of the field that he's gonna cut a ton of targets. I mean, he's not going to be at the fish Puffer player. That's going to go the vaulted, especially if they don't resign Jerry puts as a free agent. I mean, this is an offense where he's going to be the sorry. He's going to get one hundred eight hundred ninety talk it. So he might not be thirty in terms of actual football. But in terms of fantasy football I think he's gonna be just fine in terms of yards. Ben Rothlisberger is still someone who will get you a lot of those. But even that he's pushed out his wide receiver here. Like this is not going to age. Well, how can it age? Well, he's already turning the ball over weight too much Bill. Yeah. I mean, he took a step backwards. I think last year from case it's a lot of open receivers downfield now two years ago. He had judicious ter- Antonio Brown, and theoretically heavy on bell all on the same. I had a few games together. But not a ton now knowin- Tonio Brown. No, let the chips Connor is pretty good. You have jitters a youngster star. And if they have been something to give him another weapon this offseason because this offense just as productive you lost to the spires at their respective positions in all of football. Give us the most interesting thing about everything in Tonio Brown related as seen through the eyes of Bill Barnwell looking at the macro, not the micro. Knacker pitcher here. The most underpaid player in football from twenty twelve to twenty six twenty Sinai five year extension. I think there's gonna be team sit there and say, hey, we have a player who think it's really talented. We're going to extend him. I I think you can't sit there to your snow. I if that player secrete them, okay, we're going to stick with that contract. And then it's going to change the way team sort of value players because you know, players are going to stand up in the south. I think to a greater extent than they have in years past with Antonio, Panama theon, bell sort of setting the example for that. I just don't think he's pain guys, you know, a fraction of their market value for three four five years in a row anymore. How rare is this Pittsburgh policy of not extending people, even if they deserve it. In terms of their contracts. The only football the does this where they only guarantee the signing bonus. And then they don't guarantee anything else in the contract in terms of the thing where they don't guarantee guy. So there's one year left in feel that's generally a league wide policy kings will be a lot more comfortable making exceptions for superstar player like a Hulu Jones. For example. It's gonna get an extension with two years of his deal because he's Julio Jones, and he's incredible. And you want to keep him happy. And this was about make that exception within Tony Brown bellowed other players on their Auster. Besides their quarterback is in Tonio Brown going to be a pioneer messy clown bleach. Mustache pioneer is the way that LeBron James was with his television show. I wonder if there's gonna data mustache over I excited to see that see what he comes up with for the Oakland situation. I think he's he's going to be a player with it. It's not gonna hotter. Trying to guys, but they're going to be at the top of the market who are underpaid who are going to follow this sort of strategy. Thank you Bill. We appreciate the article in the work. Thank you. Thank that's. That's. Mony Mony Mony Mony. They teams are upset like as a jet fan. I'm upset. It's only your Brown could have been had very third and fifth round pick. I mean, I love his idea of black and silver. Like, let's go that was your takeaway. I know now everything there is to know about this in Tonio Brown move that was so rapid fire and thorough in its detail. His gotten very good at giving information sound bite, you'll Barnwell heart. But my main takeaways also I want to see him die, his mustache, silver and black. It's my main takeaway like, that's the way you gotta go. The face of the franchise now needs to be black in the silver. Let's figure it out vastly different takeaways there. We have yes lightly. He should play with an eye. Patch? Yes. Yeah. Put that on the poll Guillermo shouldn't Tonio Brown play with an eye patch and should Antonio Brown. Be the face of raiders football by dying his mustache silver. So he his face is then blackened silk donlevatar risk reward of going into the woods by yourself, you die or you. See some trees, I'm not going to die to go. See some trees to God's his me. You've seen one you've seen them. All okay. There's no special time with. That is true. Great. This is nonsense. SEC live at our show with his to God's on ESPN radio. Stugatz has a lot of thought he was off skiing. His body hurt is back from vacation. He's got a week of thought that he has not been able to share with the microphones. It is now time for Stu gods is weekend observations. It is time for us to to share his game notes. No, one in the media will tell you what happened better than my voice to weekend of Asians wrought to you by vivid seats need seats to a game. Download the vivid seats app and enter promo code chimps at checkout to get ten percent off your first order don't buy just any seat get a vivid seat, then Jon Gruden Mike Mayock and the Oakland Raiders are back just in time to go to Las Vegas. I thought you were going to say to go five and eleven I should've said that Chucky. You know, what else is finally back? Dano college basketball watch out for Murray. State twenty-seven and four winners of the Ohio valley conference experience. Gore play with John Moran winners of eleven straight head coach Matt McMahon who won't be there much longer has his team playing their best basketball headed into March. I have them as a potential five or six seed in the midwest, Dan, don't be surprised if the racers by themselves in the final four, Shawn Miller. It was nice knowing you the jets could have had. It's only a brand for a third and a fifth. I hate them gays. I love you. I really do. I'm trying but cut on its tradition. Unlike any other the five AM Tech's from lebatardshow while you're on vacation sleeping on the west coast. You don't plan Vegas Vegas plans. You. You agree with that? I got people going away with they're trying to make planes in Vegas. I might just go to Vegas. It's like lazy river, let Vegas take you. Where it takes you with you compare to many things. Lazy river guy who stands behind you serving the blackjack table at telling his friend as he walks away. He doesn't like the table because he likes to play first base. Go bleep yourself. Coach K said Zaylon Williamson should be ready for the ACC tournament. I get it. One of Malusis up on all the money. He'll make if Duke wins the ACC tournament coach K if his name was on chefs ski, you wouldn't be telling him to come back wishes name science ships, then you know, who put the K and selfish coach K congratulations to ravens defensive coordinator. Don, wake Martingale for having the. The greatest nickname in the history of sports masters week. I see at this point there is nothing left to do. But simply tip your cat to Alex Rodriguez. Nice to see Bryce Harper self-aware recruiting Mike trout to the Phillies because he knows if he's the teams best player that team isn't good enough to win a World Series, the Phillies spent three hundred and fifty million dollars on not good enough. Not certain. There was anything more impressive last week for me than having a front row seat and seeing how easy Rachel Nichols makes TD look she's a credible. A nervous wreck there. It's not as easy as she makes it. Hotels. Do me a favor. It's enough that they have to pay your resort fees. I'm Kerry to coffees three waters. My phone a Muffin at two bagels. Do I really have to use my bleeping key to get the elevator to take me to my floor, fix it. I I I've just saying a lot of things I paid a lot of money, and I'm trying to get some food up to my kids. I had to stick a key in an elevator slot to get into my floor. Someone five dollars. We're going up to your room exit. Congratulations to Chris Paul for passing Zeya Thomas her seventh on the all time, Sicily's less, unfortunately for Chris he still trails. Isaiah by two on the all-time rings list and trails everyone else who has one by one. What happened? Matt Harvey said he still yearns to get back to what he was Matt. What you were. And what you are what you will always be like is a fake. I know. You are right on that one man on that from the very start that there was a fake age. You shouldn't take a victory lap. Rick. Poor sellout is demanding an explanation from teammate Stephen right regarding his positive drug tests. Rick. Here's his explanation. He was doing whatever he had to do to be better for you. But the team at for himself James Dolan, it salt or threaten one more fan or former player, and I'm gone unless you get K D And Kyrie in the off season that their paper straws have ruined fat will drink. Sorry. I get it. I understand why we're doing it. But they have absolutely ruined found a storyline. That's being lost over I two thousand nine hundred. Can we do a better job of coming up with something that feels more like a plastic str-? Aw than what we're doing. Now, we can just make it a plastic strong. Keep destroying Byron. I don't wanna destroy the environment. I just want. Oh, I know. But on the poll, please gamma what's more important preserving the environment or getting the old fountain. Drink back at. A storyline. That's being glossed over is this era engagement excitement. Jaylo now has one more ring then Jeter? Congratulations to Luke maye for plague in his twenty second Duke North Carolina game. Then you know, what season it is. It's LeBron talking with his shirt over his mouth season. Does anyone tell more secrets than LeBron? He should wear doctors mess. It's also I Paul Bowles a handy season. And he Dana whoever runs the Steelers should no longer be running the Steelers. There is no one better at what they do. Then Adam Schefter is at what he does blow. Second me. Alex Hornibrook will be transferring to Florida state or his seven season of college football what to Utah? Last week, then some would call that God's country after that I went to Vegas, which everyone would call Brian's country, then those are the weekend observations. So Luke, Luke maye has been there since before the shot clock, right? It's incredible. It is. Yes. He is time for years to work on his case. He's a good player. But this on the poll Guillermo is Luke maye and good player for a forty year old. Also, the Billy Corbin movie, you said a rod wait until you get a load of this movie screwball. That's going to debut later this month. It is so quintessentially Miami Philly steroids were medicine for baseball in a way that was unbelievably amateur like just staggering Miami soak in cocaine amateur. It's just it's breathtaking to watch just how stupid all of it was and how it kept resulting in two hundred million dollar contract. It's just it's breath. Thank you will watch this and be like, it can't it's gotta be baseball got to be better equipped to deal with this than and just Miami came in and just soiled the entire sport. Is it how they get away with it? How did baseball not know is the entirety of the clowns? Jonah can't is just all Miami tanning salons. We're going to get black market drugs. We're going to get two hundred million dollar contract. It's crazy. Put your box people. It has the finest cuts of meat for your next backyard barbecue gods is here to tell you how you could support one of our sponsor. Yeah. Please support the people that support us, but your box has been supporting us for a while. 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That's what she said climbing right up the poles climbing in I tunes in podcasts podcast is chasing down to potty. We'll talk about that. In a second for all the way to headlines information, tune into sports center on ESPN radio while throughout the day took a week off. You didn't do anything during that? We either even though you promise that you were going to do stuff on vacation. And so Sarah's a thundered into the breach. And she took all your listeners. Mike, what do you want to tell people about that podcast, even though she's here her first one because I will ask her in a second. But first, I need some man's planning. Yes. Let me explain this to everybody. We're relaunching Sarah Spain's podcasts. That's what she said. It's a part of lebatardshow and friends it's officially the fourth member of our arsenal. Meena Stu, Dan. Now, Sarah, all these great podcasts on the laboratory and friends network. And I heard the interview of the first episode and Sarah can speak to it. But if you're fan of the show, I think you're absolutely going to love this interview. And it's probably a must listen if you call yourself a fan it was uncomfortable. I did to Dan what he does to other people. Although I don't think I had a question ready. And I don't think I actually asked it which was going to be about. I did ask about the time when you guys had to bring in a couples therapist, and how real was the tension, and what was really going on there. And I meant to ask, you know, when we when you're at your lowest, what was it like because that's dance favorite question to ask people when they were going through something tough. I don't think I quite worded it like that. But the end result was still the answer. I was looking for in terms of how how real that was and how tough you guys had to work to get through that video ask you, it'd be ever doubted. That's another one, right? Loves that you ever doubt. Yeah. Yeah. No. I turned a lot of Dan's owned tricks on him and for the most part he played along occasionally he would pretend to get lost in some sort of other thought so that he could avoid the real question. But I tried to bring them back to any play. Did you ask him at what point did destroy goal feel worse? When was your wondering that look for my so, many drinks were you having when you were at your low point view ever dream of speed of his tunes that has been seven years since I asked anyone that question when you go to you ever these obscene. Wait a minute. It's because Randal hill told me some sort of dreamy had many years ago actually racing cheated so freedom, and I even asked that question in seven years gear with me. Yeah. You did talk about your relationship with Mike to which I liked almost like he's like your son, which was which was touching. I got uncomfortable listening to that. It was a little real. I got uncomfortable talking about as well. Anyway, she gets in there. So that's what she said. She gets in there. This is the first episode of his of the relaunch. Yes, okay realtor. Yeah. Anything? Yeah. Just there hasn't been an episode release. Oh, just other has actually about two years worth your work every week. It was on one of them. Right. Yeah. You were you were think episode to I've X admin Mel which Dan copied for south beach sessions and good work on that. And then you were episode to which would be funny to listen to now because we didn't know each other that well, then if you need a bump after day, I'm available it's climbing because our fans are out there supporting us already, I look which she said salt bribing to it. They want to support everything that's going on with his digital audio network because it's a lot of work there under stand that and your faith in us will be repaid almost immediately with this first episode because I love it and a little tease that next week is going to be another lebatardshow favorite. Oh, I already know my guess for next week. Can you believe that I have three years lined up right now do how about you for your? I have no idea. What's coming on this week? Right. Through. If it's going to come out Thursday, it might be this conversation. He barely got in here on time today easing and broken from vacation with a cold and his entire body hurts. I mean, listen, I took my I took my daughter skiing. It's it's similar to a zip line story. I told you guys years ago where I I told my daughters, we're on a cruise ship, and I'm terrified of heights. I said, listen, you do zip-line I and I will follow and they were brave and courageous and they did it, and they did it. Well, and then it was daddy eastern. And daddy bailed on both of them. I told them you learn skiing and daddy will ski with the entire day. They learned skate. They are great. I mean, I am telling you Rachel has a chance to win. A bronze medal giant slalom in a future. Winter Olympic game. Her attitude, though is something else and Emma has a chance of winning a silver medal. So they took a lesson. They were fantastic. They went up on that mountain. I felt four times. I bailed on them. Can you guys? Help me with something because I don't have any experience with this his teenage daughters. He's interested entering a very difficult. Time high school teenagers. And I'm wondering what's the age you stop calling your father daddy because they're already a little embarrassed. By even though the kids love. Stugatz. They're already getting to that point where they're a little embarrassed by him. When are they going to tell him a it's not going to be daddy anymore? It's going to be dad I stopped well before the age they're at now with daddy. I think really the thing I really called my dad. Daddy, very much. They're still calling me daddy. And I hope it never ends. Yeah. But, but I know it's going to end, and it's going to very very soon. I'm surprised that it in the skiing, expedition, you you have you hope it never ends the daddy. Never ends. What what is the right age for that to end anybody for me? I decided it ended up fifteen once I got in the car. I was going to stop calling another grown, man. Daddy. Don't we think? It's weird when women call men they're sleeping with daddy. Why is that cool? That's so weird to me or poppy. Well, now, wait a minute. It's not me like your dad, but like, poppy puppy. Why are we let's Pash? That's weird. I mean, I wouldn't know. Papi is. Yes, when you change languages are go with poppy and Spanish, that's passion. I'm still I just realized I'm still calling my dead. Daddy, in Spanish, I just realized that what is it in Spanish? No, no. It's we all. All in copper CAD in Spanish, it's sort of. I dunno Papa by poverty, at least her calling full-time. We're all the urine Papa. Padre come out. So meek, by the way. I mean, it was why didn't you say Padre because his father. That's just a word author. Nobody's owning Papas potato pompous Bravo's delicious. What is how do you prefer your French fries cut? What's the best of the French fry cuts for you? What is the best is has been a raging debate here for three weeks? What is the best of the fast food fries? I don't really eat fast food. But curly fries are delicious. But there are a close runner up to a nice thicker, fry that's got a little skin on it. Not a full wedge. But when they call it, it's almost like a sort of like the Wendy's for I. A fast food. It's like you'd get at a restaurant, and they'd cut it a little thicker, and there'd be a little bit of that Brown skin on risen, ROY four. Russell wedge has too much potato in a wedge isn't a fri- a wedge is a delicious potato treat. But it doesn't count as a fry too wet. But it on the poll, Guillermo, Crispin of the wedge. Is it a fry? Or is it a what potato treat a delicious potato trees? It is because think the skinned to potato ratio failing to be a friend way too much villa? Crispin sair why'd you have to start with. I don't eat fast food. Like, I just when people are with that sentence. Like, you seem to have a judge. But I listened to that whole show you guys did. And I was like Ivan eat any of those except for McDonald's French fries nine years ago when I was on over and in a moment of weakness Polycom, that's a that's a that's a conversation them. Everyone has connection points to your. They're only one some of us like me, and Dan don't get to eat that still last week. You had like a four day binged watching cubs games. You didn't have one night. You're like, I just gotta go get some check. Sailly stop listening. The Dan AP's shouldn't be growing that way. If he actually ate the way that he. Okay. Well, that's true. We put prince rise in his salad. I do not put French fries. My hanging the man's word for not taking his stomach for I get drunk and eat things that are not healthy. But I never eat fast food. It's just it's just my thing. It's not a to open up better than you guys because I literally can't without my but being the size of this whole studio late night. I gotta make very serious choices like a late night bell come on. Let's all your Instagram videos in Arizona. You absolutely had to have crushed some late night bell number. I have not eaten a single item from fast food in nine year old get at eighty seven in case. It was I see everyone's gonna think I'm this is not a judgment, Gino. Right now. The what qualifies must be with you every second for the last nine years. No. But here's the problem. I don't wanna step any sponsor toes, though. I can't explain to you. I'm allergic times. If you have gone five spans redress run, you just don't remember. What's the difference between fast food stadium food? I don't really eat food. Eat. Missing exit for Wrigley. They have a really delicious black bean burger. What I think what I think Wrigley and a baseball game black beans. The worst. But I can't truly fully explained beam burger and a Beyonce. There's there is no greater shame than jiggling fat. Chris standing up pointing at you as it relates to your eating and just yelling. Donlevatar? Did you know that Jose could say goes finger fell off during a poker game. We did a good show today, man. Sixty eight percent of the audience said. So we got to. Is that all job is still God's that? That's a quality program. We put together job everyone. These live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. So you should check out. That's what she said a rate. Subscribe and reviews era, Spain's new podcast. If you're a fan of this show what we do how we do it peaks behind the curtain. The first episode was very uncomfortable for me. I'd prefer you not listen to it. But it's too late. So you if you want to support the show subscribe, rape and review Sarah, Owen in the reviews, I need people to leave dilemmas for the commission to fix. Okay. Let's yeah. Because we've got plenty of cleaning up that needs to be done because the Commission's lost some of her power. We've lost all control of everything that's happening around here. And we need to reconvene and gets to God's to pay the ten things that he owes including something from three years ago that was doubled. She doubled the poetry freestyle that he has to do. And he still hasn't done. Well, you'll hear in the podcast with Dan that I regained all my power during the podcast or the grid of death is back the iron glove in the velvet fist is back. Right. And all of this would just going to let it fade away into obscurity over Dan empowered me, and I'm back and everybody watched butts. No, it's not the death of grit home. It was pulled. It's over sorry era. Oh, it didn't realize Daraghmeh was the commission. Oh, boy gear tread leading. I've been appointed as legitimately as you have. So. Say no, no one appointed. You anything where? Thing you'll free to my punishments and pass them along the Ghirma. Oh, I just might. Okay. So we've got rulings that are going to be made here in the future. But stugatz main in the middle of the fried discussion off air, Stu gods made a a revelation that made all of a stop in our tracks. And this is how the exchange went. Still gone. I mean it had to do a fries gods. And then he went to fries last week. He went to get fries last week after going to a Michael Jackson show. I did that that granted businesses not booming right now in Vegas for these Michael Jackson shows, and that's why I went because I got great tickets. I mean super affordable front row was fantastic. We're most people see in moral. Sundram got CS. What that on the Polk where pope where people see a moral conundrum guts only bargain. I was it. It was fantastic. I gotta be honest. He's got amazing songs. I mean, the dancing was was pretty cool. He added Qatar is that looked exactly like Howard Stern. And then afterwards I had listened. There was McDonald's just down the Qatar. Here's this show the stratosphere like exactly like I would start. It was weird hanging around the stratosphere. Well, I listen the one they have to shows tickets were cheap baby. Nobody was going to the Michael Jackson. They you to go wasn't one at Mandalay bay, which is very expensive. Yes. Monday night. When I had to take it down to the stratosphere. And what a rip off of that is because you gotta ticket. He had a little dinner. And then they take you up to this. You know? To the top floor. You just check out biggest. So it's like did you just go to a Michael Jackson impersonator show at the stratosphere? Whoa. You face. Howard Stern impersonator too. Do you guys want there to be local Vegas news interviewing stugatz outside the Michael Jackson show asking about whether? Cody style. He's just you know, going off about how great the show was. There is the stratosphere is it on the strip or is it off the street. I think it's slightly off extra. Did you take your daughters? I did take my daughters. Hold on hold on. Let's just backtrack for a second. Here. See if we can figure some of this out, my give me more information on the stratosphere, how long has it been there? And really, I just I'm trying to measure. It said quotient that area's known that whole circus circus area. Like, you say where you're staying, and you say that area people do look at you with some level of judgment. I just likes to God's trying to get in. The what is Michael? Oh, that's the oh the Excalibur that is so depressing. That's I literally stayed there once and we were walking down the halls. And I was like this is where you come to kill your the terrible thing to think about. Thank you. Like a rich compared to the strategy. At least the Excalibur is on the strip stratosphere is so far off the strip. What's speaking to see an impersonator over even a Cirque show? I just love the idea of guys like spreading his arms. Like why is there? Nobody here. Like, why do I have the place to myself over the myself? I'm like why is it so close to me go to that table over there in time though, dregs, and then there was a McDonald's, right? When I walked out and French fries and a chocolate shake wolf was that good best part of the show at lebatardshow on Twitter and Instagram if you want to vote on the polls, you keep pivoting to the French fries, you keep wanting to move away from the what did you? Choice that you make it wasn't a great choice. I I actually in a rare moment of awareness, actually, said something to the people. I was with this is probably a bit of time to go to a Michael Jackson. Going to the stratosphere. You're literally going out of your way in support on Michael Jackson show yet. Mandalay bay to stay there. You're right. Go slightly off the the strategy because you got a free, you know, a free view of the top floor. Did you prices? I mean, the prices did you pay our Kelly's bail after that. Oh. No. Wanted to go to an art Kelly show at lebatardshow on Twitter. What do you have for updates on? The polls to got better clam pioneer Ronald McDonald's or Antonio Brown. Grey question. Fifty six percent of the audience that had Tonio Brown. What is the plural of Bigfoot? Your choices were big, folks. Big feet. Fifty nine percent of the audience at big Foot's. What's crazier about Jose can Saco his jealousy or his promise to take you to see Bigfoot and aliens sixty two percent of the audience said Bigfoot, who's the worst owner James Dolan, Daniel, Snyder, seventy one percent, James Dolan. Would you like to try milk? Coke sarah. Would you it sounds nasty? Right. 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Emergency Podcast: Raiders trade for Antonio Brown

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42:38 min | 1 year ago

Emergency Podcast: Raiders trade for Antonio Brown

"All right raider nation. I'm jewelry go along with Nick Hamilton and Caitlyn socal tonight. It happened. You've been hearing about it and Tonio Brown. Arguably the top wide receiver in the NFL was just traded to the raiders for third fifth round pig, and and Tonio Brown has a new deal that pays him roughly seventeen million dollars a year guaranteed and put this perspective. I'm gonna the unique covered them. Sammy Watkins who has not even a tenth of the production that Antonio Brown has had in his career is getting paid sixteen million a year by the cheese Antonio getting seventeen million by the raiders, I do not think this is a bad deal for the raiders at all and still using with a ton of cast face to go. Make more moves when you look at it from that perspective. Yes, not a bad deal. But also look at a Tonio Brown is thirty one years of a star sue years left when his deal so this seventeen million dollars in a dish. That it's you know, it's a new deal. And I believe it runs for another three years. It comes out to fifty point one something million dollars. So basically you have aids thirty once age. Yes. I'm not head over heels for the deal. But I know that the raiders do need a top notch y received at ease by Derrick Carter throats who Mark grouper? So I think in that respect it is a good thing for right now in the short term long term may not be so much because you dealing with a thirty four year old why received by the time his contract in what I look at it for right now with this year and possibly next season. When they go to Vegas is affected. You're going to have to need a why receiver again, it goes back to the old question. Can they get the old line together because they can't get the online together you think that's only Brown pissed by getting the ball. Pittsburgh his really gonna be pissed by not getting the ball from Derek Carr because they're not gonna be able to get the ball off in time because he's gonna get crushed with that week along before thought the Kyle Nick on. I wanted to stow this out there, the raiders, essentially, I made three major trades in the Jon Gruden era. This is what they gave up Khalil Mack and Amari Cooper, twenty nineteen. Third round pick twenty nineteen fifth round pick twenty twenty second around picking twenty twenty six round pick in return. They receive Antonio Brown. Three first round picks a second round pick in a fifth round pick. They also have a receiver who has has twenty fourteen five hundred seventy six catches fifty two more than any other player. Fifty nine receiving touchdowns. Fourteen more than any other player two thousand two hundred and four receiving yards in twenty one TD's in the fourth quarter alone. Wolter league is Kaelin. What do you think of this deal that the raiders made to add arguably the best receiver in the NFL to a team that quite frankly, he's going to be motivated new money new team out to prove people wrong with a quarterback who he supposedly loves him in Deir Grison in lovely tweets to each other Hailin, what do you think in the deals overall? I think it's a really good deal because Antonio Brown is a good deep threat and he spreads the field. More for deer car who has struggled in the past. To source oh ranked eighteenth last year actually in throwing the ball deep. And I think that he will actually be a very good player for dear car, he will be more reliable than Amari Cooper was in his ever been while we talked about it Nick on the show that we did the other day, the twenty seven seconds show. What I brought up to brought this up to Joe Pacheco. Who's a radio version, Fresno, a Ruger friend of mine, we're having dinner a his wife myself in? Julia. They got introduced to the baby last night and talked to couple of the raiders fans as well that I'm really close to. And I asked him the same question that I asked you in kaylin you can hear it for the first time. But it wasn't the case. I said if you gave up pick twenty seven for Antonio Brown you essentially traded Amari Cooper for Tonio Brown. If I would ask you that a year ago, you would take it. Now fast forward you gave up with third and fifth round pick not to mention the Steelers are taken a twenty one point one two. Two million dollar dead cap money charge. They get them best receiver in the game. Arguably and you still keep your four picks in the top forty if you're a raiders fan. You have to be going nuts with glee over this. Well, let me ask you guys questions because you mentioned about their car being spread the ball with Antonio Brown. The biggest problem that their car had that he couldn't push the ball down the field, especially with Amari Cooper. Now. Granted I'm not saying that Amari Cooper is without blame. Because he got quite a few balls especially deep zone in the last couple of seasons. So my question you guys is with a being a raider. Now if being the top notch wide receiver that is can their car be able to get the ball down the field because that's been partially his problem. So does that make Eric Carr a better quarterback? Yes. Somebody like it's on your Brown or throat or their on the persist, regardless of him having Tonio Brown or not. Yes, it's going to help air car immensely because. Antonio Brown is a proven commodity endear car can trust him more than he has ever trusted Amari Cooper in the past Amari Cooper, has never a proven self to be the number one guy. I mean, of course, he's shown Dallas he can be this. Nick, I want to answer your question. It shows two things one the raiders are committed Derek Carr. First of all, I think this screams that Derek Carr is our guy were not moving to go get another quarterback in a draft. And I think what it also does kind of gives you a glimpse into what they wanna do. And they don't add any offense of lime in in free agency. I think that'll be a mistake. They're gonna build from the inside out like you're supposed to. But when you got a receiver like Antonio Brown on the outside that still leaves you a lot of money. Now, there's a lot of money and the other killer is out there lady on Bill again. I said this the other day said it to Q it's lining up to what the raiders brought to do off-season in my opinion. And what people have told me where they add Tonio Brown to add beyond bail with Derek Carr. Now, they. Have weapons around him weapons? Jon Gruden can use to really facilitate the raiders office the way he wanted done with Jordy Nelson. You can drop the receiver somewhere, you know, in this upcoming dropped in between the first and the fifth round. You can go ahead, and maybe keep Jerry cook eight million a year to three or four year eight dollars you got tied in now you have weapons now. There's no more excuses now the homeless fall solely on Derek Carr in. He doesn't get the job done. Then they move on find somebody else after this as less of a cabinet. They can move him. But I think this was more pressure on Derek Carr than it does anything else. The thing about it is to is this Derek Carr definitely has stuff up for. I know he's been injured last couple years. Bagging it usually those type of injuries. Like, I said it takes a couple years, but you get your footing back and get your mind right now. This is the year the Mako break year for Derek Carr. The problem I beyond its only Brown is Jordy Nelson because they're putting Jodi Nelson into the slot. And he's not a slot receiver. That's part of the problem. But even. With Antonio Brown less at a sign of YoM Bill is this Oakland Raiders team to at least compete for while corn division because to me even though this the great move as far as getting Tonio Brown as a number of receiver. You may sign Levy on Bill. I sit on think it's enough to beat the chargers. I still don't think it's enough to be the Kennedy. I disagree with that. I will say that none. I disagree with that. I will say this. I think the raiders aren't necessarily looking for being a wildcard team next year. They would like to but they're building twenty twenty when they first come to Vegas, quite frankly Canley knows this was well as anybody Nick, you covered hockey LA for a long time, you know, this from covering the ducks in the kings, really the kings. And then ducks are Orange County. Sorry about the LA did immediate despaired you putting Orange County teen with the Los Angeles moniker 'cause I'm very I'm very hell-bent about that myself. But the reality is this the Golden Knights success last year by going to the Stanley. Cup finals took away any honeymoon period that the raiders may or may not have had they have to come in ready to win. And really Chris and that new stadium with a playoff push right off the bat this symbolizes. Okay. Now, we're looking that way. And we're looking to really go get we get these young guys in use find a Levy on Bill. You know, some people I've talked to NFL people that said they still feel. He's the best running back in the game. You add Bill with Brown. Pick your poison you put eight in the box. You got the best route runner in the league just gonna route almost any DV. Now, if you drop back into coverage now, you got a running back that can do anything in everything. But from catching the ball to get into yard to break in a long run off for a touchdown in your backfield. They gives the raiders weapons on offense. I think adding Brown kaylin, I think adding Brown to this raiders team gives them diversity, and it makes them tougher to scheme against overall going forward not just this year. But in twenty twenty twenty twenty one and beyond yet because it will give them more opportunities go after for weapons. In this Jeff it'll get them and more of a to go be more aggressive after surgery knowing that they don't necessarily go after a number one wideout. You know, Joe that was nicer I call you puff daddy dance around. That question was wonder what I have okay? Okay. Do the straight up this this season? Do the raiders have enough this season twenty nineteen to become a wild card because I don't think they're going to win the division. I only they come close to winning vision. I do not think they're better than the chargers. I don't think they're better than cheese. Okay. Do I think? So I think it's way too early to tell we talked about this. The other day is Patrick Mahomes gonna throw fifty touchdowns and season. I don't think so there's gonna be a slight regression. They're they're also potentially looks like they're gonna lose de forward. I think caused eleven fumbles last year I'm saying that they recovered with everybody caused eleven led the league in that. They're talking about trading and either the forty Niners or the Packers that is very much in play right now 'cause they don't wanna pay him. You look at the chargers was last year a blip on the radar for rivers who's pushing forty now was it a blip on the radar year. They're going to lose Tara Williams. Looks like are they going to be the same team the in Denver? You know, they get Joe flacco is he the answer there. Lord knows probably not. But the reality is that. Defense is still going to be damned. Good. And it's going to be tough to go against you worry about the offense now with the raiders Gary on Conley turning the corner. Carlos really had a great last quarter of last year any when he finally stayed let him play a lot more. Now. Karl Joseph can have the ability to go in there and secure his job and really played a high level as he got that he's getting fifth year from the raiders there's some of the young guys looking Mohur played will jelly Ellis PJ hall when you look at look at offense. Jalen retards from vac. So when when you look at a lot of the pieces of the puzzle some of the young guys did play well, and they were starting to turn that quarter. Are they while carting mister it's too early to tell on paper right now. No, they're not because there's a lot of holes on the defense side of the ball. They still need create pressure from the edges. So you know, I think they need a middle. Linebacker to really get silent silent and go get it. They probably need another quarter. They definitely need another safety. Reggie Nelson comes back raider. Nation. I'm going to be offended for you. Okay. So the day at the end of the day, they're still questions there. But just like every other team in the NFL. There's going to be questions. No matter what I mean. I think it's really. But I think it's. I train this great every innovative mass questions. Well, like I said before yes, there's going to be some digression as far as Patrick Mahomes and his in that offense. But at the same time so the high powered office when you look at the Los Angeles chargers. Yes. Philip rivers. I don't think there's a blip. I think they they may have taken a turn forward the defensive side of the ball. They got rid of their way Jalil dot at the same time resigned Jenkins. Maybe maybe they wanna step up and be able to fill that role. Also, they have to worry about it Adrian Phillips, not leaving it make sure re they resigned him because he was a key piece to their defense and Gus Bradley's defenses. Well, and he still got the emerging during games as a safety go inside outside. So he's already eighteen division. So they're already have some key pieces that are going to remain there. Okay. Yes. They lose IRA Williams, which Oakland could actually absolutely pick up at some point. If they designed to pick him up, which would be a good pick for the raiders if they decide to go down. Direction. I feel like I don't think they will compete by think they can compete because the chargers might be on the fringe playoff team. The raiders can maybe grab a win against him moving, and these sort of second place in the AFC West End, I think it's very possible for them to be there on again like this, and I'm not talking. I'm not trying to force the playoff spots playoff spot. I think right now, I mean, the NFL Detroit first of all campy announced officially until Wednesday. But I'll say this last year the raiders traded a third round pick for Martavis Bryant that obviously didn't work out. Well, fast forward ten months later. The raiders traded a third inefficient Tonio round. I'm excited about a guys. I'm gonna tell you why I listen to the Darlington interview. And it was I thought it was very informative, and you kind of seen the type of person Antonio Brandon's. He didn't come across is, greedy. He didn't come across his selfish. He came across the guy that at that for a while has been putting up with with a lot of things behind the scenes and not saying anything and finally decided to take control of his own destiny. And Nick United talked about it on the never would be herds podcast. If. We talked about how when he said down with LeBron in the shop this past week. You were really a fan of it where I thought it was very impounded for him to do that first of all because the south should be called the king's court where where we get together we ball washer does exactly what happened. Anytime you go to a real barbershop, you leave with at least fifteen or seventeen different opinions on the same side, right, Nick. But also, what's the first rule of the barbershop will goes on a barbershop stays in the barbershop? Exactly. So what I'm saying is when you have his show called the shot, and you're acting like it's a barbershop. You don't sit there and everybody agrees with the same thing. Everybody agrees with everything you're saying, no, that's not how the barbershop goes. I don't know any black around harvest that you could sit down and everybody agrees universally all what you're saying. Hell, no. So first of all as a misnomer. Secondly, give back to your original question. I don't. A problem athletes expressing himself. I'm always going to be for the athlete where at the same time. It's a way that you go about doing it. If you have a grievance or a problem, and I said this on my radio show earlier today that there's a time in a place in a way to go about doing things just because you can doesn't mean you should and just in. It's not so much. What you say, it's how you say the way Tonio Brown win about getting herself out of Pittsburgh. He was digging himself a deeper and deeper hole because they were I will leave was about nine or ten teams that we discussed Joe that were there were actually potentially interested in trying to trae for it's on your Brown, and then all of them except for maybe one or two one being the Oakland Raiders all of them pulled out. So my problem is this, and it's only Brown has to be a profession because you are a veteran. You are thirty one year old. Why receiver you worked your way up from a six round pick and became the number one? Why receiver in the land you have to be more profession? Oh, that's not to say that you can't say anything or express or voice. Your grievance voice to the people that have ears and let them here because here's the problem. The Pittsburgh Steelers still own your contract. They had a choice of training you to the raiders or not. They could've easily said no you're not trying to forget it. We try to Siberia in buffalo. They could've enjoyed that. No. What I'm saying? But I'm saying they could oppress. They could've went back and say, hey, let's see we're Buffalo's talking about now they could drag this thing out even longer if they wanted to. But my thing is this the Pittsburgh Steelers and Tonio Brown. This is something that should have been handled behind closed doors because you don't sit up there on the sidelines because you're not getting the ball understand you frustrated. You'll get the ball understand Ben Rothlisberger. It's gets better treatment than you. And that's fine. But at the same time, you still have to remain professional enough to say, okay, I got to take care of my business. I can't be throwing Gatorade carts all over the damn sidelines. And power like a nine euro girl got a bike stone. No, that's not how you act and there's a certain way of professionalism that you have to maintain as NFL player, especially a star player like Antonio Brown to me. And so Naro Brown is trying to act out. He's acting very immature. He do. He acted worst juju Smith, Schuster Judah. Smith Schuster is way younger than him and had more sits of how to conduct himself. They're saying. So which is why I had the arguments we talked about in the twenty seven second podcast, his then is do beyond his talent. Was you know, this guys mislead talented? We know he can catch the ball anywhere on field. Right. Is this guy? You wanna bring it to your locker? We'll because if he is not happy you think he's not going to act like this. Again. Let's say dare car doesn't do certain things. He wants their car to do. You think he's gonna sit around to say. Hey, derek. Let's have a moment or hey, John. Hey, coach Gruden. Let's go talk. I need to talk to you about some. No he's going to act out the same way on the sideline. If it walks like a duck quacks like a duck. It ain't no damn Mongoose. This is this is a pattern for this do. And when I'm saying is this if he doesn't get his act together as thirty one years old. He's the raiders are going to have the same problem. Two years down the line three years down the line. The same problem with the Pittsburgh Steelers at with him acting out on the sidelines and act the in the locker, okay? But like I said in that never will be heard podcast they knew night because of audio issues. The bottom line is this you got to have strong leadership in a strong personality. The raiders have that with Jon Gruden who quite honestly is making more than everybody on that team. Which is just which is his scratching go. Well it, but he's still the leader of that team. So again, watching the entire Jeb darling tain interview to me opened up and shed some light into Antonio Brown. It's been going through this has been going on for years. And so then that I didn't realize he never was invited or gun chance to hang out with the Rooney's. Like, Ben Rothlisberger another Hines ward in other players. But yet all of a sudden, he gets all this stuff starts happening. It's like, oh, come to our house in hang out with us. No, I'm not going to now because things have gotten so bad. And I'm done taking your crap for the last X amount of years. I'm ready to move on. I don't wanna be here anymore. I'm taking care of myself. I'm out, you know, like trade me, and he gave them essentially, he didn't say anything January most February came out towards the NFL when you look at the Steelers receiving core without Brown. They have juju Smith Schuster. He's going to be the number one receiver who Nikolai VO feel isn't quite there yet he needs someone like. Until Neo Brown on the other side. But then you have James Washington. They took an around twenty eighteen and he really didn't pair well with with Ben Rothlisberger. They have Ryan Switzer. And then you look at the rest of the guys periods. Hayward bay all raiders fans know who who that is is they took him over bricks ver-. Yes. And then you also have a Justin hunter and Alai Rogers. So when you look at the Steelers, they have a glaring need for another receiver opposite of juice misuse ter-. How does affect the Steelers in houses of other teams in the north? And you can't say Cleveland's winning the division is going to affect because Dame's Tyner is going more people folksy on James Connor in the running games is going to be more people, of course, folks in doodoo Smith Schuster. I actually believe is going to lers without Antonio Brown being the main folks team, but the on him the roster is leak in the passing game in do you need another. Talented wideout to here with them. In order. You take the pressure off of juicer, the not going to scores may point. I'm gonna limit say this Mike Tomlin will probably be a casualty of all. This is probably be gone next year. I'm looking at JT the bricks Twitter feed right now, right JT, obviously meant one of the most of my mentors in the good friend of mine, and he was in Oakland tonight for a special event, they're having former raiders and he's in a pitcher out, and he says great night in Oakland and Tonio Brown celebration at the airport Hilton as line is forming outside Oakland goes big cliff branch all over again love this deal. JT is not one to mince words with anybody. It's already a big deal in Oakland. Nick. I know you well known you a long time brothers from another mother. I could just see your face when Kaelin said two things. First of all, I could see nodding your head in agreement with Mike Tomlin being fired at the end of the year should. Steelers regress night habit successful season. And the second thing when he said he believes juju Smith Schuster who we've known since high school, do gene I loved you. First of all, he's a breath of fresh air that we need more juice, not just in the NFL but in the world, but when he said jujubes are flourish without Anthony Brown or excuse me Tonio Brown. I could just see your head smiling. I knew you wanted to retort which you want him to finish. I'm let you go. First of all Judas bishou Stor is not gonna floors them much without Antonio Brown because one thing about its own Brown being there, it's fresher object. So when Antonio Brown commanding double teams, it may do Smith Schuster wide open target because he could take the one on one. Now that you don't have an it's only Brown. Now. The the pressure is going to be on juju Smith Schuster. I wanna see how well he deals with the double teams because he's gonna get them a lot more often than he probably ever had in his NFL career. When I look at what the raiders gave up for Antonio Brown in the comp. I mean, it's not it's not a bad deal. Joe? And I wasn't saying earlier that it was a bad deal because they didn't have to give up a first or second rounder speaks volumes to me that this is how bad the Steelers wanted Antonio Brown gone. They will take third and fifth picks to get rid of a number one. Why receive? Ver- probably the best. Why receive they've had a long to get rid of him to go to Oakland. This how bad they wanna Antonio Brown, which brings me to my earlier point of is this the kind of guy that you want to your locker room. Now, he could anybody could change. They'll give me wrong. Anybody could change their attitude like you said earlier a breath of fresh Air, New anew change of scenery, sometimes certain people. Well, and it's only Brown's case. I don't know. I don't know how well it's going to turn him around. Because again, I'm going off a previous system Goff previous history. It sells me if he doesn't get his way is gonna pound his way out of. And that's exactly what he did with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He powdered his way out of town stuff. He didn't like he touted about it. He cried about it. And now he's outta town. So you said earlier about Jon Gruden being the leader. There is the problem. Jon Gruden has to be the coach the leader has to be the guy on the field. You never once mentioned Derek Carr being leader which. Which could be a problem later on down the line. Because if I don't when I think about a leader by about Aaron Rodgers, I think about Tom break. I think about Philip rivers. I think about guys that that under center who are leaders on their teams and guys they can get guys going on their teams the fact that you didn't mention Derek cars leader tells me quite a bit about how you think about their car. You may like they're leaving Derek Carr. But I never heard you once mentioned the word leader or leadership when it comes to Derek Carr. I haven't heard you mentioned. No, you may have Derek Carr to me is there, according Carden me's, not any hit a he hasn't had to be because there were veterans. They're big vocal leader. But I think you as last season went on you seen him. Get more vocal use seen him in Gruden kinda spat on the sidelines getting chillers grill a little bit and Gruden loves that that's when Gruden Gruden wants it out of his quarterbacks car. Loves to be coached hard. I'm gonna be honest. I think he'd be a leader against it's only only when his time. I don't know. I don't know. I absolutely. 'cause I don't I don't know if he came. I don't know of anybody can stand up to Tonio Brown, his deeper attitude. I don't know saying. Not saying I believe I believe he can I'm gonna tell you why there's many different forms leadership. Let's be honest with been Rothlisberger a great leader in Pittsburgh. If you got three kids below him of the GM thinks he is, but has been Roethlisberger ever been considered the leader of the Steelers know what he's been is he show toughness by coming back in hurt and played in games hurt. Maybe some games. He shouldn't have he got away with some things in his life that most people probably would never be able to get away with. He's done things on the field. That are great. But let's be honest. He threw a ball this Antonio homeless and made a hell of a play arguably the greatest catch it Super Bowl history to win a Super Bowl and the Super Bowl before that the team relied on Jerome Bettis running the boss don't like he led them to victories in the Super Bowl players may play around him. How good is he if you don't have those players around him. We're going to see. So I don't know whether or not Ben Rothlisberger is going to be or. Is a was a great there. I don't think he was a great leader people eat, Pittsburgh dental speak. Highly of Ben is a leader not at all. You don't ever hear them saying thing about that? Derek Carr, you have former players Desa DC data's thing. You don't hear him saying on DC's addict or DC didn't do this or DC didn't do that pill? I've talked to people in other lock people that were Ingraham as locker room during breath bars final couple of seasons, and he wasn't delete her at all people thought he was, but when I think of leadership of football, he's one of the first people, I think of so at the end of the day, a you don't need to be in your face, you need to do what I said because I'm the quarterback making the most money leader. You don't need to be Philip rivers at times belittling teammates on the field leadership comes in different qualities. Do I think Derek Carr can do it? Absolutely. I do does that mean that he is going to do it. I don't know. We'll find out this. Well, here's what I'll say when you dealing with the caliber player like Antonio Brown. Forty other top notch wide receiver. You gotta deal with the nego every player has some players keep their egos in check better than of again. I think it's only Brown the mislead talented wide receiver. I don't know long-term if he's the right fit for this team. And I don't mean that will goes on the field. Short term short long-term. I don't think so and I could be wrong. But as I'm looking at it with the naked eye today after this alleged trae that we can't believe, you know, truly it won't be official until after Wednesday. Somebody's gotta step up in of because the coach can only do so much. It's gotta be whether it's whether it's Derek Carr or somebody else in lock somebody's gotta step up that Tonio Brown. Look dissolve. We do things in Oakland. This. What will stay? Forward is we'll be don't stand for beyond the coach because it's a little bit different. When you have a coach versus a player telling you the same thing, you know, this job because you coach before yourself, you know, sometimes certain players respond to certain things different ways. Meaning you could go tell the player one thing they will hear you. But they won't take it in. But another player on the same teams and tell the basically the same thing that you said, and they'll take it in as gospel. So there has to be another player in that locker or players in that locker room that will sit until your Browns. They look we saw in Pittsburgh give you a clean slate with this having operating if you can't meet those man's don't buy the coming through those doors, and you gotta lay down the law with Anthony O'Brien, and if nobody lays on allowance oneal Brown he's gonna wreck shop because there's gotta be some form of leadership in that locker room beyond John grew. And that's going to be a problem. I would. Saying about Derek card is different form leadership. You're absolutely correct. But there's also leadership that makes a strong impact to certain place. And when you don't do that there's going to be a problem we've seen happen time and time again, and that's my biggest concern. I wanna ask you guys. Both the same question killing. Did you see the interview Jeb Darlington Antonio Brown? I did not see that interview at all. Okay. Nick. Have you have you wash yet? I've watched the full the full of ours watched half of it. I implore you both to wash the entire interview. Anybody listening? You haven't already I implore you to watch the entire interview the reason being you will see and get is just one side. And again, there's three sides to every story hers. His and the truth that lies in the middle for. So you get to hear one narrative that's not coming from the Steelers or their PR department are big van in his PR department up. Up until this season. You really didn't see diva ish attitudes from Tonio Brown. You've seen a guy that was packed ads. Passionate about football. You seen a guy that wants to win. He wasn't out there. Doing too much guy. Never been criticized for the amount of work. You put in practice always been considered the hardest worker at practice like what more one more. Do you want them? Because of he of being labeled the Bagai because a Big Ben in and he wants to be labeled. I mean, that's ludicrous. Yeah. That's that's that's stupid. But at the same time, I'm looking at what I see. The naked eye. I'm looking at the video footage of you knocking over stuff. People cannot come down. Because you're so enraged behind whatever it whatever's going on that you cannot keep yourself in control honest about passionate understand about determination. Trust me. I know all about it. But we also saw another. Why receiver also as passionate and came off very demonstrative? And now he's no longer in the league. And that was Dez Bryant who got sent home for a while before the New Orleans Saints picked him up. And unfortunately, he went down with an injury. This the same behave and what I'm saying to you is this. I don't I don't I don't third party. You know, what is been Ross's, burgers people or organizations people? I'm looking at what I've seen what you seen with everybody else's C. And all I'm saying is the aware be careful. I'm not saying it's audio Brown bag. I don't know the right beyond what I see again mislead talented football player. I will say that time and time again, but basically. What we've seen and also to he was not named if pe- by his own teammates the personnels naming VP by these teammates was juju Smith Schuster that also says something to me as far as how teammates in the locker. So yes, does that told you Brown have problems? Yes. Yes. The problem. He estimates you, but can you keep those issues in check because the spotlight is going to be on their Tonio Brown. If you say, you're the good, okay, fine. You're the good guy now proving because if you screw up and any point in time, and you know, this show to be true. The microscope is going to be intense on Antonio Brown this coming season, and Oakland, if he flares up if he starts throwing things knocking things over pulling away from coaches is going to be all back in everything that you're saying is going to go up in smoke because all we're going back at the Tate is you know, what? This is the Tonio Brown. We've been telling you about everybody says he talks about how he's the good guard all this other nonsense yada, yada, yada. That's how the good guy acts. That's how good guy carries himself. Okay. Yeah. That's the good guy. Well, these will who the hell villain apparently Las Vegas loves the move. Because the raiders went from seventy five to one odds to win the Super Bowl to fifty to one odds. Oh, let's get the parade. Ready? This get ready. No. But I'm saying I'm saying they're not you're not as down on the move. They're not as pessimistic grieving leery of it as you are Nick, which you have every right to be. And I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying. I'm gonna from a different perspective. Kaelin? What do you think? Antonio Brown is going to bring to the raiders next year. I think he will ring a little easy, of course, like you side with you that. Their car is going to be more vocal leader next season. And I think it might be a decent chance that Lynch comes back and he comes back. I think will help control in Serbia leader with Antonio Brown. Clubhouse C J Anderson said other podcasts he was there for one week Jon Gruden he says is sort of like the team might has teen hanging direction. And I think that would Jon Gruden I think it's going to sort of sneak other a leadership there in sort of that until we won't be that much of. And I think in Tony Brown's definitely mccleary ship. I think he'll bring good veteran presence. And I think it will open the offense in I think he's going to help improve the raiders maybe to second place in the AFC west. I think he's going to post. Okay way. I think we're Agadir. We're not we're not getting season predictions. What would I do think is going to happen is I think Tonio Brown's gonna allow Jordy Nelson? The Nasi double coverage at all at any point during a game. That's gonna help Jordy Nelson. Now it going number two wide receivers on teams. And I tell you this much I think the trade works well for both teams the side the twenty one million dollar cap it who's going to have to deal with the Steelers had no position power after the Bill straight. None zero. They were not in a position of power to get a third and a fifth round pick for a player that you're the you may have actually decided to dump at some point. Because you you can't get anything for him to get a third defeat us. Good value for them. A lot of teams talk to third would be just about right? Second would be okay. The raiders paid a little bit too much. Like, I said it's the good is is good for the writers as far as the picks going far, which you had to give up giddy. But at the same time like I said, we'll see we'll see what happens will he be able to change his image. Or prove that he's been a good guy. We'll see I mean, I would love to sit down and talk to Tonio brownie camp. I would love to have a conversation with him. Those are the questions I would raise them guys. We got two minutes left expectations for the raiders not just with Antonio Brown with Antonio Brown now on the phone for the offseason not in season before the offseason. Kaylin you go first for the all season. I expect to go out and go more heavy towards the defense now that the offense as sort of a low swith over, of course, go after I believe another receiver maybe later, Jeff they don't have to necessarily go after one in the first Joan, I think a young runningback they Bryce love or someone else. I think they'll go. After more decent were defensive heavy in the first time because their defense was there atrocious past season, and you need players inventors scheme while Carolyn you're wrong. Here's Wasser you're wrong because we have to fix something offense line in order for you there car to be successful. They're gonna have to do some things to fix the offensive line on stand defense does a great deal as far as being able to set the team in motion. But this is the offense of driven league has been for quite some time. And this is the quarterback driven league. And if you cannot have effectively get the ball down the field to your targets your receivers or be able to get the running game going for your running for your running bags either hand the ball off or catch the backfield you're going to fail miserably what I see the raiders during the off season is fixing the old line because when you bring in a top notch down like Annette Tonio Brown looking to bring in someone running back like levian veil. Because we all know marshawn Lynch is beats mode is pretty washed up where. Where we seen him at before. It was a great gesture for Oakland to extend their hand to Oakland native like beast mode, and I love these mobile these most time has come and gone. This is why you need to go. After Bill Nye expecting the go after lady, I'm Bill also expect them to possibly go after tyrel Williams if they presents itself, and please get Jordy Nelson out. The damn slot is not a slot receiver. That is the biggest mistake. They could've may make that man. What he was. He's a receiver. You can do it in a way where it benefits everybody. Nice. The writers to come out and drive. Very well this all season is no excuse for them not to draft. Well, they have great picks in the first and second round. So they have they can address them knees. As as Kayla would say, the only thing I do agree with him about is that they can't address needs in the draft. And that's why I see what the writers doing this off season. Besides toasting their final wine celebration Napa before they. Moved to the state of the vita. Well, I agree with you dig where I think they're gonna go after Levy on Bill. I think that that is a must for this offense also agree with I think they make a run a tyrel Williams, but there's gonna be a team on the east coast, namely, the jets that has a big big hole a wide receiver with the quarterback would really like to make a run at him an Anthony Barr and lady on Bill for that matter. So they're gonna be battling those guys for those players. I agree that maybe it'd be there may be a couple of guys on the defensive side of the ball that the raiders make run it. I don't think it's gonna be any big names unless unless you see a player that grooten in may, I firmly believe can come in and make an impact right away. But they've made perfectly clear that they're not gonna stay big money in this free agent class. They wanna kinda serve things up. And Bill with some of the young guys that I know they wanna lock in some of their own dudes. And if you can get Earl Thomas to pair him with the Carl Joseph I like that you got to center fielder with the in the box eighth. And if they if they can pull off a an Earl Thomas and away beyond Bill and filling stuff around feeling guys around him going into the draft. I think it's phenomenal off season. And I agree with you, Kaitlyn. I think early on in the draft is gonna be defensive heavy unless there is definite. I mean, maybe one of these new age titans of Noah font is available twenty four. If maybe Irv Smith at twenty seven. So it's gonna be very interesting season starts on really Monday. Monday mornings, you know, when they start the tampering period and Wednesdays when the deals get announced get ready for a wild week for raider nation, again big news of the night or the morning whenever you're listening to the podcast and Tonio Brown traded from the Pittsburgh Steelers. Here's the Oakland Raiders for third and fifth round pig, and he gets a new deal three years. Just over fifty million dollars seventeen million dollars roughly guaranteed fully guaranteed thirty million for an Tonio Brown to come to the raiders, and they get our events receiver in the NFL for Nick Hamilton for candidates soco. I'm Joe Rigo. We thank you for listening to this emergency addition of a silver and black pride podcast powered by SP nation. Have a great day. My name is Spencer home by name is Jason Kurt. 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Q&A with Your Boy Q & Joe Arrigo Episode 4

Silver & Black Pride

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Q&A with Your Boy Q & Joe Arrigo Episode 4

"Welcome to Q and A, which boy Q and need. Joe rigo? It is a free agency addition the madness began on Monday and today's the new league year, so happy NFL new year TQ, and we got a lot of go into man. But I how was your weekend. I taken down a slow weekend as raider fan this weekend. Man, I'll tell you. I don't think anything was ever slow for me all weekend long, and especially with what happened on Saturday. And then obviously with the kind of keeping up trying to stay up and awake to see. What was going to happen Levy on bell? And I don't know the last time I slept. It feels like I bet for ever for the last five or six days. So yeah, no, no slow anything for me. But I'm just glad that the big fish are already kind of already on the hook for whatever team. They're going to go to now things to slow down a little bit. And I might be able to get back to my regular schedule program, which is sleep every once in a while funded. I'm gonna pill to Kurt and a little big go back to a Friday. So Friday afternoon, folks, I have a group chat with Q, Nick Hamilton, Scott winter, nyah and Cailing base with the entire silver and black pride podcast network. And and in that part, it was probably what is probably around. Like, I knew the one o'clock. I could've takes them got word raiders in a B R B. Working on new deal. Somebody's to that effect. Right. And and cure like what the compensation that are in it at the time. Her Darius reports, the two four was one could be a two could be three to five a lot of variables. So we're going we're back and forth in attack. And then that night comes and nothing really happens. And then it's batter day. And I literally got done topping-up sound that we were gonna use for this show today to talk about a variety of different things. And I probably working on that for two hours to Lisa with sitting there waiting for me. Like, are you almost done? And then I get attacks Roma source within the organization it says we just traded for AB gave the contract details. Told me what they traded for. And the first thing I did before I put it on Twitter was I'd take the you guys. It was like. Bryant podcast who's down. I know you're in Texas. I know you're two hours ahead. It was well one thirty in the morning around that around that time and the proverbial thought that I had regarding the Tonio Brown. Trade was real simple a three and a five and giving the guy money to make him the highest paid receiver in the NFL, which is really only a million dollars guaranteed more than Sammy Watkins gotten. I I'll take Antonio Brown. Seven days out of seven days and five times on Sunday over Sammy walking that I thought the raiders really got over on Steelers Antonio Brown. Flex his muscle as a player to get out of a bad situation for him and put himself in the situation where he wanted to be and I couldn't be more happy for the guys involved because I know grooten mayo. I know Mark Davis Mark, the Dane the entire organization really wanted Tonio Brown. What he brings to the table on the field. Yeah. No doubt. Man. I saw the the numbers on that on that trade. And I saw what the. Leaders gave up and that was my biggest fear. My biggest to Sern going into the whole off-season knowing that the raiders were going to s some point players or try to be players at least for Antonio Brown. I thought man everybody in the league is going to try to get one of those first round draft picks. You cannot give that up that is where your team is going to be built, right? There is on those first round draft picks. And I was even little nervous and a little greedy. With that second round think we talked about on the podcast few times. Like, yeah. Yeah. I can give away the second round pick. But I don't want. I'm just being greedy. And to find out that they didn't have to give up the second round pick. They gave a third and a fifth. I was cool with that. And the money that they gave him. I know he had absolutely no guaranteed money left on his three year deal. But the flip that around a given thirty million dollars. So what you telling me that Antonio Brown's not worth ten million dollars guaranteed each year. I mean, you know, saying like when I look at that. That's cool. I'm not okay. I'm not mad at that. At all. I mean, basically, that's all they did is flip his contract in the what he had on there. And they just made it guaranteed money instead of no guaranteed. Money. And and I mean, the dude works his tail off. He's not one of those guys. He's proven that time and time again bending the league long enough. He's not one of those guys that gets his paycheck and runs. He's a guy who gets his paycheck, and then looks at okay. What's my next goal? What can I get now? What can I accomplish? Now. How can I prove that? I am that dude. How can that chip on my from liberty city come off on my shoulder a little bit stronger? That's just who he is. And I appreciate people like that. I love the the underdog dude the guy that's been pushed down his whole life. Like, oh, you're not going to be anything. And then he proves to himself and everybody else around the he could be that guy. And so that is who had Tonio Brown. That's what he is all about. And he is going to go out there and be a go getter. And when I saw those those numbers on that contract and saw that they were able to land him man, that was really music to my ears, and is just it blew my mind. How much my own change after all those numbers, and how much some good negotiations can make every situation better talk about what he brings to the table. Jon Gruden actually talked about that. Dad the press conference. Here's what John said. Excites him most about AB I get excited because of where this man comes from. I think the six round wasn't a division one. He did it the hard way. And he's done everything in his power to be the best. He can possibly be on and off the field. His body of work is not only impressive. It's fun to watch. He's electrifying after the catch. He's a great competitor. He wins the fifty fifty ball. He's outstanding short areas. You have a great imagination as football coach. When you coach man like this. He can play split in. He can play flanker. He complained to slot. He can return punts and sell popcorn and a half time. We're excited about this guy. And we're going to put them to good work. And he's got his whole army here with them. And he's gotta Ali, and I'm gonna get all Apollo. I'm gonna get all these young Browns at work here too. But just just the life that he has is in two zero. The play is contagious. And when we signed Antonio Brown, you'd be shocked at how many other players have have wanted to to come along with them. It's really been a really a great experience. What I like best ball with Jon Gruden said. Right. There is the fact that he likes player with a chip on his shoulder. He likes to God is gonna come in and hope players accountable, and he's gonna make jobs offense, better Amari Cooper and Antonio Brown to different players not saying player at all. In fact, Mike silver. Brought it up today. Something I really did he consider until he brought it up what he said Amari Cooper would have gotten paid by the raiders anyway in the long run out the fork out money for him. Anyway, they just do it for Antonio Brown and doing it for more productive wide receiver. And it's for three years you have to be happy with that deal. Big time big time, you if you're not happy with that deal. You're insane. You know, what I'm saying top of that? It's only Brown alpha dog that's other that the raiders haven't had in a long time. I mean who is been the alpha dog for the raiders. They haven't really had one. They haven't had a guy. That's an enforcer a guy who can like you mentioned hold guys accountable guys who can say, hey, look, look, at the way, I work. That's how you need to be working in Khalil Mack at his at his peak with the raiders wasn't really that guy that would get in your grill. And and make you follow his lead. Antonio Brown wants to be that guy. He's made that perfectly clear that he's going to go in and hold guys accountable. He's gonna show him his work ethic and encourage them to follow his footsteps, and who am I to say? Oh, no. I'm not gonna work as hard as that guy. If that guy who just got thirty million dollars guaranteed, and you know has all the money in the world. And is is you know, one of the best wide receivers in in the league. I better follow his lead. You know what I'm saying? And a more Cooper was never going to be that guy. He was too quiet. And honestly, you didn't really even look like he cared to be there that much. It was just kind of. I am not questioning his workout. Because I know. I mean, look, I know Amari Cooper went out there and worked I get that. He was a good route runner. I liked Mike Hooper. He wasn't a guy that I would follow. You know what I'm saying? He's not a guy that I would just say, okay. He's working. Hard. I do the same thing Antonio Brown. Is that dude it Tonio Browns that do like, hey, man? You know, if a young cat for liberty city can make this happen. You can't let's go. Let's get to work. I mean, you saw how excited he was. You see how quickly he went landed in the bay area already went to their cars house. I mean, he's he is fired up. He's ready to get things going improve and show. Why he's getting the money. Not just well my pass accolades shows while I'm getting my no I'm gonna go out there and show right now why I deserve the money that I'm getting. You went to the raiders put it on the YouTube channel believe it's on raiders dot com. As well. This is the clip of Antonio Brown. Surprising. Derek Carr with this home? Visit and listen to how they talk. You can hear the excitement inner voice check this out. No, no. How you doing? Have a real. Crazies row. That's amazing. We decided real long time ago. Ago. He's already through. You come on my thoughts. Guess. Family lesson excited. These. Unlike me raider nation rated nation. Craziest. They really hit me. Sure. What I'm going to our kids for? Yeah. You've been years somewhere else different on the side of what's up. Oh, gee. You here. Cloudy. He says before he went to Clint about Cooper, not being extended doesn't look excited. Never looked excited about being a writer someone put a pitcher, and they took the pitcher van Tonio Brown from his issue with the water sled behind him with the water in the pool, and they had the picture of Cooper on draft day and Cooper's looks like someone just like killed his best friend, and they get in Brown is happy. The mustache was still gold at the time. I believe I mean, you see someone that wants to be somewhere. There's a someone that was like, I honestly I'm gonna be one hundred percent on this. And and I think Cooper has all the ability in the world if he wants it. I think that he never truly was invested in being a raider always had his is to somewhere else where he maybe wanted to be. If it's Dallas or somewhere else, I think he always had a one foot out the door mentality. I don't get that impression where Brown what actually feel like just from grooten and may arc and and welcoming his wife and his kids. Into the to the facility letting them run around and getting to know them that spoke volumes to Brown, and he spoke about it earlier than press Commerz. But that's what volumes him about a family atmosphere. Something that he really did it feel in Pittsburgh. No, he didn't you know in. It is that he talked about him. In fact, he talked about it in that interview that he had with Jeff Darlington from ESPN where he said, you know, I've been on the scene nine years in the quarterbacks been to my house once you know, what I mean. And the owner doesn't even know my kids names. And I mean, that's just not right. You know, what I mean is this not I mean, I do a radio show with a cat, and I've been doing radio show with within for five six years. And he'd just about knows everything about me. And I know about him, and we don't even hang out. You know, we don't hang out. But we know about each other, you know, saying because it's something about when you got a relationship with somebody regardless if it's a professional if it's just a you're my homeboy, we're going to hang out. You don't say like people know about each other. If you're invested in in in getting the best out of each other. If you wanna have a little bit of chemistry, and and that all, and you know, Joe, you know, how this game goes. I mean, you gotta have chemistry to be able to to. Exceed, you know, if you're working with somebody else, if you're working with a group of people you've got to have some kind of chemistry, and when you've got a guy like big band who's supposed to be the alpha dog for that team. And you're not even going to your number one guy. You're numero Uno guy in in Antonio Brown and showing him some love showing his family some love. And that's why Mike Mayock was genius at the press conference. Mike Mayock was genius. Jon Gruden was genius. They mentioned the word family. So many times that wasn't on accident. That was definitely not an accident. There's a reason why Jon Gruden shouted out. Antonio Brown's kids names, he was then to be elm that hey, this is a family environment. Being a raider is being part of a family. And this is who we are here. And I'm gonna get all the Browns here working. I mean, that's I mean, he said that you know, what I mean like he knows that that family in that family environment means so much Tonio Brown. They showed that at that press conference. And so now this dude's really going to go out and show what he's got an show what the raiders could be helped get them back to where they need to be. And I mean, he he knows that the grates that have been there. You know, he knows the Tim Brown's that have been. In there. He knows Jay writes as he knows the cliff branches. I mean, he knows those guys that have been there in walk those halls, and he's read it live up to that legacy. And even go a little bit further. What does this mean for the raiders like on the field off the field the way, I look at it like this when you have Antonio Brown, and they always obviously signed Tara Williams today as well on the outside. We'll get to we'll talk more about your findings later. But for the purpose of what I'm gonna say I wanted to bring it up. I think we're grueling wants to do. I don't think. Well, first of all, I don't Secondly, I don't think Jordy Nelson gonna get cut. I don't either. But I think what I think what Gruden wants to do that move route around if he sees that he can get them outside one on one with a corner that that that he knows can guard him, you know, playing impress or whatever which most corners can't he's put him out there. He's gonna move into the slaughter few times. I think you're gonna see Jon Gruden move AB around so often that you're gonna be like where's yet? They're gonna have to try to row cover. That's gonna. Free up Tyra Williams on the other side at six four two hundred and something pounds running four four. That's your give Nelson one on one covers with team second or third corners. I like what Gruden did just by. Adding that one chest piece to the raiders offense on the field on the field. He was Swiss army knife. I mean, that's exactly what he is. I mean you described it perfectly. You can put him anywhere. Jon Gruden said it as well. I can put this guy anywhere. The biggest thing is getting the ball in his hands. And letting it be known that he's on the field. Don't go away from him and don't just disappear like Amari Cooper used to disappear at times. And you never knew he was on the field that will not happen with their Tonio Brown. He won't allow that to happen. John gruden's not gonna Lau that to happen. I love what Michael Irvin the way. Michael Irvin described Antonio Brown watching NFL network just hearing him describe him. He is a dog. He is a dog. And he said is Jon Gruden Derek cars job to make sure this dog eats in if he eats he's gonna bite someone else if he doesn't he he's going to turn around and bite. You your job is to make sure he's biting someone else. And not. Bite. You let that dog come out in him. But obviously you want that dog to go the other way get on your enemy get on the other team that you're going up against I thought that was a perfect way to describe him. Because again, I've been saying the raiders need that alpha dog also on the field. What that does for the raiders that gives them a legit, dude? Liquid who Derek Carr was throwing the rock to at the end of the season Jared cook and as invest great he had a nice season. Jalen resort. That's great. It's cool to be able to check the ball down to him. And let him go ahead. Do his thing. He got a little bit of wiggle afterwards. But look he had Brandon fell. He was going to tell he tours achilles. He had Marcel eight no disrespect. But he was a seventh round draft pick out Oklahoma state. I mean, he he came in really really late kion Hatcher. They actually brought him back. He never got no burn. But he got you know, what? I mean, he came back. It was really joining started shine a little bit. But it really was. It was a cassock characters that nobody really knew or even feared. There was no fear from any other defense. Now. At least a defense has to say, okay. We need to know where eighty four is at it all ties, and then like you said. It's going to open up everything else for everybody else will make Derek cars game easier. You'll make marshawn Lynch whoever's running back back there. Doug Martin if he's going to be there. Chris Warren, if he's going to be there. Jalen, I don't care whoever's the guy running the rock toting the ball back there, whoever that guy is gonna free him up a little bit more to it's gonna make that offense that much more dangerous because you have a real legit weapon in Antonio Brown. You don't think that Gruden and Brown? Mayo cabinet already been scheming. Listen to what might may. I said when Brown met up with grooten and mayo just to hang out prior to the finding period never seen a better connection between a player and a coach when these two got together. I mean, John had four hundred clips of Antonio in the office. I walked in this morning. The two of them were sitting in there like little kids watching four hundred cups of Antonio everything. He did everything. I mean, they were like little kids in a laboratory. And that's why we're so exciting. The truth is Mark Davis invited. Mike, and I are. Our wives doing event in Las Vegas so excited to get Mike out of the building. We went to Las Vegas. It was a great event Mandy May Iraq, my wife, Cindy. And I instead of having a nice date double date, we dated Rosenhaus Antonio Brown, never saw wives. But it's his happy as as Cindy and Mandy have been since we've known them Antonio agrees. Thank you, brother. Truth Ori, dude, four hundred plays of just Tonio Brown chopped up at Gruden Brown went through each and every one of them in Gruden explain them. How is gonna be using the offense Gruden right now with salivating because I'll go on record right now. Brown is in the top four he's ever coached at any level from Green Bay receivers. Coach the Philly to become the raiders head coach we had Tim Brown and Jerry Rice to Tampa Bay. I think he's had three guys that Antonio Brown to be compared to and that Sterling Sharpe, Tim Brown, and Jerry Rice, that's a pretty good threesome if you wanna if you're Tonio Brown with Jon Gruden. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, he knows exactly what to do with the guy who's a real deal legit weapon. A guy who can get it done. Again. He came out right before the raiders play the Steelers twenty eight teen and said, this guy has a work ethic. Like, no other the only guy see work as hard as him as Jerry Rice. And again, you don't just though Jay Rice's name around there. It's just not some dude. You know what I mean? It's not it's not Jerry Johnson is Jerry Rice. You know what I mean? Like, it's not just some random cat from off the street. Some do that you met at the YMCA, man. That's a real deal. Dude. That's that's the that's the goat when it goes wide receiver. So you'll just though that name around you'll know how much respect Jon Gruden has Jerry Rice Jerry Rice talked about. I might have to come back. Now, the John gruden's coaching I might have to come back and lace them up again. And he was lightweight serious. You know, what I mean, he he he wasn't serious. But he somewhat was like, I probably could do it. You know what I mean? Like, you know, so I know Gruden super fired up, and you wanna talk about a dude who works a guy who's going to respect the dude who has the work ethic like that is due to work ethic like that and Jon Gruden just you talking about all those four hundred cups like come on, man. Who who does that already? Yeah. Jon gruden. He's in the lab doing that. And that's that's like Antonio Brown walked in there and just his eyes lit up. Okay. Okay. This dude serious about me. So why wouldn't you if you know, a dude is that serious about you and excited to bring you into the fold? Why wouldn't you get excited? To go out there and prove him, right? That's like the alternate. If you're a player like a you have organization that you come through. And they say your our our dog, you are the guy in our locker rooms, you're the focal point of our offense. I checked out four hundred plays of you. This is how we're going to use you each and everyone of the plays. We're going to integrate that it's already inter offense. This is what we call this. You get ready to rock and roll. Because at the end of the day. This is how we get down with you. You have to love it and Tonio Brown actually told the media what he brings to the raiders on on and off the field. So let's go ahead. And you hear that in this talk about that for a second accountability bring up bring up bring actions, you know, not what I say what I do know how things, you know, holding Gaza countable and receive around developing a pot, you know, challenge guys if you drop a ball and be going to have a pot to super accountability, you know, a whole Renault. Maybe an apprentice when I'm doing my job. Sheen's bring the whole group over to see the jug machine that will ever gonna group. No, hey, we don't we count on you to make that catch. You know? I'm I'm watching you work making that catch to because when we all we together. So bring us some of the principals and some of the things that make karate and Bill good teams to some of the things I notice no whatever needed. No being here being a leader. And take a hold of this thing full full round it. So you're you're talking about that he's going to be in pants. He's gonna hold players accountable in the locker room in terms of finding them. They drop all bringing them in front of Derek Carr. Have dare commend the receiver meetings and say look this is what we're doing. This is what this is how much he's been fine. You gotta love that for a guy like Jordy Nelson. Who's was the elder statesmen in that locker room still probably is and Georgia's probably back to okay, I like this minds me a lot of what I'm used to from Morale's playing in the past. I also like the fact that off the field. He's going to bring this. Swagger that I think the raiders of black. I mean, yeah. Marshawn Lynch and Oakland, Oakland, people are going to love him. But if you're right or finna lives in mosquito Wisconsin, or if you're ready friend lives in billings, Montana or even Toronto Canada. Like, you don't get the Oakland vibe. So you're not really a lot of times you're not gonna be able to vibe with marshawn Lynch and some of the things that he does because he is he is Oakland core. But with AB it's a little bit different because you're like, yeah. 'cause he had all that swag in Pittsburgh magin, what he's gonna do it raider nation. This is off the field the field, they marketing him. Yeah. Without a doubt. But yeah, they do they need that guy that could stand out to the ground. And look I love everything about marshawn Lynch he is all the way Oakland like you said, and you know, being Oakland do myself. I totally respect him. I love everything he's doing but live when he came back to the raiders when he came and came out of retirement he did that to fill his childhood dream of village. Childhood dream. He wanted to be you know, play for the raiders because that was his hometown team. And he's doing that. And that's great. And it's been nice. It's been a nice story. But it's not been the, hey, I'm gonna lead my hometown team to a championship has been the I'm gonna do my thing again, not trying to talk bad about him. I know somebody will take it wrong and say how could you talk trash about marshawn. I'm not. But it hasn't been a marshawn about the leader's team to championship or I'm going to be that alpha dog and hold guys accountable. Marsala just wanted to be there to put on that silver and black put on that helmet with the pirate on the side. I mean, that's what he wanted. He wanted that shield. He wanted to do that. I don't know if he's gonna come back at twenty nineteen if he does great if he doesn't that's okay too. I mean, it's not I'm not going to lose any sleep over Marsov ish. Not returning the whole little deal has been nice. But it that's that's all it's been. You know, I mean, I again twenty seventeen when he decided to join the team, and they were a team you looked at and thought, okay. This team has an opportunity to really make a deep run. And now you have a Bruce running back marshawn Lynch his opening press conference. Somebody asked him that question. Hey, what about trying to win the championship? But this team. And he said, yeah, that's cool that they got that going for them. They got that going for him. Not we got that going for us. But they got that going for them. So he wasn't in my opinion, ever really a member of the team. He was a member of the Oakland Raiders as an individual who was fulfilling his childhood dream. And again, I'm not mad at him because we all have dreams, so go do your thing. But it's not like it's been I'm about to go win a championship for my town for my city. That's just how it hasn't been that. And again, the city of Oakland always gonna ride marshawn Lynch, no matter what he could play for the patriots, and they still ride with them. But you know, it is what it is. So so Antonio Brown is taking the team bring in a whole different level of like, you mentioned accountability a level of swagger a level of just I mean, he almost seems like a pirate Doni. He almost seems like a raider. He always. Yeah. He I mean, if he wasn't a Steeler. I mean, those really the two teams he could've played for the Steelers in the pirates. You know, you got that that blue collar mentality. And then he's got. That that that that Reiter mentality. So yeah, I think he's gonna slide into the silver and black and put on that a helmet with the shield on it. Are they gonna do that just fine? And and help take this team to to great heights and man one year in Oakland and the wait till it hits Vegas watch at all. My final question regarding AB to you. It's a raider nation out there. Do you think this is the first domino in a return to prominence for the raiders? Yeah. Absolutely. I think that if they play their cards right in this draft. Again, this draft is is the end be for me. They played their cards right in the in the draft. They can they can have that resurgence in the in the division. The only problem the only problem with that where I don't wanna get too far in front of myself is the only problem is the Kansas City. Chiefs are a are going to be a dog. They're going to be absolute monsters for quite a while Patrick Mahomes, in my opinion, ain't going nowhere for a long time. I think that that dude is a is just an unbelievable talent. That was dude. I was watching at Texas Tech. He is just a monster. He gets things done that just are unbelievable. I think that they're gonna ride him out for a while. And it depends on how quickly the raiders can get this defense turned around try to contain that do just a little bit trying to put the pressure on him a little bit. I think it really can come down to the raiders getting good. Really quickly and a given the the the chiefs a run for their money. I still think the chiefs are the without a doubt favorite in the AFC west. But I think this is the first domino to bring the raiders back to relevance. Like, okay. Okay. Yes. We can do this. We got the guy they could pull the trigger and Derek Carr. We got a guy that could make plays an AB. We got off offense line that can hold up. We gotta defense. But you gotta get the defense is going to be there. I think a lot of it's gonna be had in the draft. And we'll see I'm not disagree with you. I think AB end the first domino. And the return of prominence for the raiders, I agree with that. I don't think candidate that they lost both their edge rushers. Yes. They find the Honey badger, but they lost arguing heart and soul. Their defense. And Eric vary by cutting him on Wednesday that defense stink already was bad. And they got worse. They got worse. What made them run? Most of the year was not just powdery kiln alpha Kareem hunt now in Cleveland, they have a whole running. Back right now, they. Money. They they don't have as much money. They can't go get a running, but really isn't anymore. Running back to free agency really were getting. So they're going to rely one the draft. So now are going to play them different type things and Yego actually the best team in that division because they're the most balanced, I think already better than Denver. But I think the raiders are going to creep up and creaking creep up on Kansas City. Even though Mahomes is the best quarterback in division. I still think the raiders can creep up on it. Because I think this draft is it's going to revitalize their defense, and I like the pieces that are adding a free agency. You don't see Kansas City do that. I like what Gruden may have doing their like minded they're getting they're bringing guys that are like minded with them. The raiders are going to start paying body gruden's image personality, and that's been teams get really really good. I think San Diego's gonna regress a little bit again. I think the most balancing, but I think that the vision is a little more wide open than what people think. I mean, you you could be right. You could be right about it being more wide open. But again, I still think Kim cities the cream of the crop. And again their defense always stumped. But the running back position member they got Damian Williams as well. Damian Williams carried the rocket did a hell of a job once Kareem hunt wing, you know, he went down. So I don't think that they missed anything matter of fact, they might have got a little bit better in the running back position. I'm not worried about that with them. Their defense is going to be a question, Mark. But again, it was a question Mark before they don't have Bob Sutton there as defensive coordinator more, he got fired. Now, they got these bag Nola. He's gonna switch the defensive at three four. I don't know or actually switched to the four three excuse me for three. Yeah. I don't know if he's going to improve the defense or not. But that's what that's what the goal is. You know? And I I do agree with, you know, getting rid of for that was kind of silly. But they didn't wanna pay him that raise money. Yeah. But you know, he has good years. And then he has okay years, and then he's healthy, and he's not healthy. So it's kinda hit and miss with e Ford Justin Houston that was another one that they let go, but we'll see we'll see what they do. They they got a couple linebacker. They did sign a linebacker off the off the the Cowboys squad. And so he's going there and and their defensive their linebacker coaches. They're the Cowboys linebacker coaches, Casey. So maybe they you know, they have something going there. I just think ause you got Patrick Mahomes. You got a fighting chance. They got tyreek hill. That's still a problem. Travis Kelsey, that's still a problem. You know what? I mean, they they got dudes. It's it's still a problem on that offense aside the ball kid, you stop them. And that's why this raiders defense has improved. You can get into a shootout if you want, but I don't really suggest it because it's not that fun. A raider have Kelsey equalizer, and I'm gonna tell you who it in. When we come back from this quick break. You're listening to Q date with your boy Q and jewelry. Go on the silver. Black pry podcast network. Hard by nation. Hello. I'm Spencer hall from Espy nation. And I wanna tell you about my new show. It seemed smart. 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In tech news virtuous is on apple podcasts. Spotify everywhere else. You listen to podcasts. Check it out. Welcome back, which boy Q and me Joe Rigo on the silver black pry podcast network. Powered by be nation, are I q? Now, I kind of teased when you brought up trying to kill. We got the Travis kill C equalizer. And that is my man the five foot, or who is absolutely is a tremendous football player a guy that you can play in the flying complaints deepest. Well, lamarcus Joyner one of the raiders three free ages as of the recording of this podcast on Wednesday. That was fine to a four year, forty two million dollar contracts. Sixteen point seven million dollars guaranteed essentially, it's a two year deal. If they wanted that way, and he did a really good job against Kelsey in that fifty point shootout that the Rams and cheese that he's just a turnover machine. I think he's gonna come in and really help out cujo in the back into the secondary. I think that that's true to a lot of raider fans question that signing because he's short, you know, he's. Little duties five eight, but he's fast. And like like you said he brings that kind of ability. And he did do a hell of a job when it was Casey against the Rams. He did a great job matter of fact on Kelsey. And that's something that the raiders are going to have to figure out how to do all the time. They're not going to be able to just do it one game, you know, because they had one really good game this past season against the chiefs and really had an opportunity to beat them if they hadn't fumbled the ball three times by three different running backs. But that's another story has all digress on that. I don't wanna talk about that me myself all fired up. But yes, so they have to find a way to consistently be able to compete with the chiefs. And I mean, I don't want to disrespect the chargers. They're gonna have to find a way to compete with the charges all the time. I agree when you said that they are already better than the Broncos. I do think that's that's the case. But we'll see Vic Fangio does as the head coach. There's a reason why he has been a head coach his whole career in the league. And we'll see if he's ready for that job. If he's better as coordinator. So that that's going to be interesting endeavor to see how that shakes out. But again, just going back to the city and those weapons, you know, speed kills tire. Kills about to become the highest paid wide receiver in the league in quick fast in a hurry. You know, and he's he's about to get that any day now. And so he's not going anywhere. And that speed is just unbelievable. You know, you know, I mean speed is going to do everything in the world for you. So we'll see. We'll absolutely see what happens. You know? I hope that the raiders could fast track. They're they're not rebuild. But they're just trying to trying to reload. I hope they fast track this case and look with Jon Gruden took over the raiders the very first time when Davis hired him. You know, he had a plan. He pro he made that plan go to go to work put in action, and boom, you know, that the raiders are also relevant, and they were damn good really quick, you know, and these kind of following that same blueprint that he did the first time. And so if you can get that and get this team rolling like you did before and not leave this time. You know, the raiders could be in a good position. I I don't think that they're going to be battling for the the AFC west title in twenty nineteen, but I could definitely see him at twenty twenty be knocking on the door of a that's going to be our division. You know what I mean? I. Definitely see them doing that. But it's gonna take some work. And it's going to take hitting on these guys draft. This is very important coming up in April raw thing. The markets Joyner was asked the most Twitter Monday wasn't he safety? What's he going to be an put this out there because I asked them usually after they agreed to terms safety or nickel and they said both predominantly nickel. So you're looking at your Nickelback guy is gonna be used a lot like the Honey badger. If you wanted to keep going back to that. But that's that new age defense that a lot of teams are running. They like having a shorter more athletic almost like your best athlete on the back end plane physician. That's what they view the Marcus Joyner as he will play some in base as a safety, but I do think with Joyner cujo, right and presume rookie coming in unless aired very have. They have interest in air berry of until they're going to see they're going to check the medical to see what's going on with him. Him. But Eric berry would be another guy. Good fit on the back into play that free to kind of be free in Rome and this mind, thank you. You know, this lows anybody bro nowadays sixty percents of defenses are in nickel or dime, or sub packages. More Selden playing their base package is really getting phased out. There's not a lot of teams that are that are running to receivers are a running back and tight end sometimes for most teams are going to buy one or two by two receivers and tight ends. So this fits a new age defense something that they didn't have last year. No, you're right. You're right. And that nickel coverage is all the time. I mean sometimes teams start off in the nickel. You know? What? I mean. It's just. Yeah. They jumped right into it. Maybe it's one play in the base. And then also, hey, boom there in the nickel during the nickel offense defense already. So. Yeah, I can I totally see that. And again, lamarcus Joyner he has so much versatility. And he could do so many different things. And that's just something that I keep keying in on that word versus. Ability. I just think that everything you see from Jon Gruden offensively and defensively from this raiders team. It's going to be a bunch of guys that are very very versatile. I think that is going to be the key guys that can play many different roles. Not just specialize in one thing. But somebody that can jump at you know, jumping at a at a drop of a diamond and play a role that there needed to you know, I mean, I just think that that's going to be the key to the rate of success moving forward, and you could see that by the guys that they're bringing in even you know, flip back over to the office aside the ball even looking at AB, we talked about how versatile he is. And where he can line up. You can line up all over the field. Those are the kind of guys that Jon Gruden. Those are the kind of guys Paul Guenther are gonna wanna want are going to wanna have on that roster just to be able to execute the way they want to grinning added back in the day to now only Pam Brown. Charlie gardener Yoon runabout, get him in his lot. I mean, the Polian Kaufman. A bunch of guys position with NFL. That's what it that's what today's football is becoming you have a conviction. But. They want guys that are productive play multiple positions. So they can have position list position. So to speak less live over to the offense the side of the ball, and I brought him up earlier Tiro Williams receiver big six fours and to think like to change you're looking at a four year forty four million dollar deal. Half of that is guaranteed twenty two million dollars. They get it from the chargers chargers were loaded wide receiver with him, Mike Williams and Keenan Allen some teams viewed him as a number one receiver the jets being one of them. They were in on him the saints were eight hundred on him as well. But he chose to go to the raiders the raiders actually identified him as their number one receiving target as a free agent early in the process there's interest from him as well. They get him. It weakens. The chargers with that's a big thing to me and he's legit. And over two next Antonio Brown, Jordy Nelson, you know, he really is the thing about it. The Steelers were looking at them too. You know, the Steelers wanted to so that has nothing to shake a stick at man. He had guys that they will had it that we're interested in him. And so he chose to go to the raiders that weakens the division opponent, man. That's that's a win right there. That's already a win. So now he knows that he's going to have a major role because like you said the charges were loaded up at the wide receiver position. He knows he's going to have a major role. He knows that he's going to be counted on to go and being that number two guy or even number three next jury Nelson. But I mean at the same time they're gonna spend a lot of time on the field. They're going to have a lot of action go their way, they know what John gruden's gonna be trying to do. And how he's going to try to make this offense click, so yeah, he has an opportunity to play against one across from a really great wide receiver in Antonio Brown to a guy who's been there done that has been great in his own own, right? And is a damn good professional Jordy Nelson. And then he gets a slide in as well. I mean, that's a that's a hell of a one-two-three combo. You know what I mean? It's so good things could have it for that, dude. And and oh, by the way, he's another guy that has a chip on his shoulder that do went undrafted. I mean. That was undrafted guy. So everything he's gotten in the NFL. He's had to earn. Guess what? The guy way across from him. He had to earn everything and Tonio Brown. Yeah. He's a zillionaire at this point. But he had to earn every single penny. I mean, the guy didn't even have a legit deal logistic offering college that he went to you know, what I mean. I mean, he didn't where do you go western Michigan? Yeah. Western michigan. I mean think how many colleges D one program kick in their tail for not looking a little bit harder Tonio Brown. You know, think about that? He went in the six round of the draft. I mean, come on these guys there's guys out there with chips on their shoulders that got things to prove and Gruden loves every minute of it. 'cause he knows how much he can get out of guys like that. I want to say this again because I know again, it was bantered about on Twitter. I know is Packers Twitter as well. We'll the raiders cut Jordy Nelson because they find Williams than have Brown. No Jordy Nelson redid his contract at the end of the season rapid season ended to make and sided flipped it towards fully guaranteed. Right. Now. So it's a team friendly contract. There's no way the raiders are gonna cut me take that cap it they have until Friday to make the decision. But why would they do that? They have veteran receivers one the understands Gruden system completely. Now, another one is the best receiver in the game. Arguably and a guy six foot four that Rosa four four that knows the division and has played outstanding the division you got weapons for car. They're not going to take a weapon away because they added to I'm sorry. That's just not going to happen. So for those it will Jordy Nelson slow. Jordy Nelson can run rouses separate off route running Jordy Nelson's gonna be going against teams third corner. Sometimes their fourth corner, I will take Jordy Nelson at this stage in his career going against those corners that I would last you're going against teams number one. Because last year he came in as a number one receiver, but he really wasn't a number one receiver. There's a reason why he was like oh from his former team we talked about that last week. But. Now as a number two or number three receiver. I absolutely love Jordy Nelson role. Yeah. Not to mention his hands. That's the one thing. And and you saw in twenty eighteen even though the raiders had a terrible season. And Derek Carr wasn't great as far as getting things done when it mattered. I mean. Yeah. Numbers wise. He did. Okay. But as far as the big time moments. I mean, he wasn't that great. But joining Nelson putting balls on the ground either. That's one thing about it. And that's one of the reasons why he was brought in because he's going to secure the ball. And then he's gonna go. He's gonna make that tough catch for you in traffic. He's going to know how valuable ball security is. He knows that. I mean l he worked with Aaron Rodgers, and he wasn't gonna let that dude down. It's something about working with perfectionists. You're not going to let them down. You don't want to let them down. That's what makes Jordy Nelson. So damn good. That's what makes it Tonio Brownsville. Good because they are perfectionist. It's gonna make Derek Carr that much better because he's going to not want to let them down either. He's gonna wanna give them catchable balls. I mean, that's just that's just how this game works. You know? And so that's what's excited about it. So no, I don't see joining Nelson going anywhere. If anyone's going anywhere, I'll be. Seth roberts. He'll be the guy. That's that's cut let go and by the way, there's no debt there's no dead money on his on his contract if they cut him. So, yeah, if anything said Roberts is on the first thing smoking somewhere else. I would agree with that. I think he's the one that does get cut on think I going to have relatively soon that's gonna believe almost four and a half million dollars for point six million. I think Donald Penn is another one that's going to be that's another. I think seven million right there. And look people wanna say what they want about Jon Gruden, and we could say all we want about how bad Colton Miller played last year. Jon Gruden is not admitting. He made a mistake with Colton Miller over Jon Gruden is saying is we're gonna get him some help, and he went out and did that in a big way by getting a big man Trent Brown was really the first domino to fall. When the frequent free agency hit on Monday signing a huge deal for years. Sixty six million thirty six million guaranteed sixteen. Half per season making him the highest paid offense of lime in league history leaving New England this is a man that's like six eight I believe three eighty. I mean, that's ridiculous. That's air William size. The guys got really good feet long reach personally. And I don't know this to be one hundred percent true. I think he's going to be the left tackle Miller is going to be on the right side Parker, unless they find another guard is going to be swing between Dr smoke tackles and guards. And I think they found their left tackle to give their car time to throw the ball to Antonio Brown to Jordy Nelson, Terrell Williams to handle Boffa wherever's at running back running behind that, ma'am. It man it's going to lot of points. You know in the thing about it is and the reason why I love the signing Trent Brown is again, another word that I've been using a lot. He's versatile because he might be the left tackle. But you know, what he might be the right tackle. And I know it's a lot of money to pay for right tackle. But in the AFC west, it doesn't matter on the right side. You got von Miller coming at you at the right side. You've got joy. Bosa coming at you at the right side. You say you got guys coming at you on that right side. So in the AFC west, it might be make more sense for him to be the right tackle. That has always been the the suspect spot of that offense a line as far as a as far as I'm concerned over the last few years when the line was even solid, you know, Donald Payne was at the left, and then assembly was left guard and Hudson was there at the at the centers position, and then you had gave Jackson, and then you also had a an issue you gotta turnstile right there at the right tackle position. So maybe he plays right tackle. Maybe he plays left tackle either way. He's able to do both. He's also able to kick inside and be a guard if he had to he's done it. He's you know, what? I mean. He's done so many different things in San Francisco. He was very versatile. He goes the New England start sixteen games protects. Tom Brady goes on that playoff run and men he was outstanding in the playoffs after the and through the Super Bowl. And we all know how defensive that Super Bowl was to the point where people are saying, it's boring. Not me. I thought it was fine. But whatever there's you know, he he kept Tom Brady upright. In the Super Bowl against the dogs on that Rams defense. So yeah, I'm good with whatever they do with him wherever they decide to put him. He is a guy who can get it done. I'm excited about him. The problem. I have is can Tom cable get it done. That's my big question. Can Tom cable use him the way he's supposed to use him. Can't he make this offense align go from what it was last year? They gave fifty two sacks to two on their car and cut that in half or even more. You know, I mean that that line has got to give Derek Carr time or else here gonna be throwing the ball to anybody. I'll say this brother. I think this the maker break your for Derek Carr. And a lot of ways of giving them any reason to make excuses for him in terms of not being able to get the ball off because he often for mine or not having play makers to get the ball to. But I think if even bigger indictment to Tom cable who gave up two sacks last year is the line coach Yuki to you looking at a guy who I believe it was three. The last five years D worse office of lying grades in the NFL. According to pro football, focus. I'm not a big PF guy. But they've put up some really good numbers. I'm not to olitical, but the same time that's been that issue. incitement of how bad his lines have been and I'm gonna take one step further. Q? I was told yesterday prior to cable getting the job Pat hill, the former Fresno state coach was a finalist for the job, and many people believe he has the job until from cable was fired became available and then Gruden brought his old guy in to run the office of line. That would be don't be a pretty shocking to me if that was the case, and I I don't really know why Jon Gruden would make that call. I know he had said that he he really hadn't even didn't. He really notes on cable just knew of his accolades from the past. And look I I'll give Tom cable credit back in the day. He was he was one of the best coaches in the league. I remember everybody was singing his praises, but he's lost a step or twelve. Over the past few years. And I remember when he was in Seattle that offense ally couldn't block for nothing that offense ally was terrible right after marshawn Lynch they had no run game. And Russell Wilson was ready for his life the minute. He leaves and get fired. And then takes a job with the raiders all of a sudden Seattle's number one rushing team in the league Seattle also protecting the hell out of Russell Wilson. All of a sudden everything's turned around. What was the common factor? Tom cable, once he was gone Seattle's off it's a line became that much better. And a lot of people say that well, the Seahawks didn't put any any assets into that office a line. No, they did they may trades. They went to the draft. They signed free ages. They did a lot of things and nothing worked out. Tom cables, gone in everything sunshine Rose's puppy dogs lollipops, so Tom cable this he better get it. Right. This year, if not I think that the writings on the wall for him. I would agree with that so Terrell Williams the markets Joyner Brown big free agent signings dust, par for the raiders. But what neck are they gonna look to next? Will they retain Jared cook Gupta's, we'll tell you what we know right after if you're listening to Q and A on the silver and black pry podcast network. Powered by nation. Hey listeners. This is Luke Thomas show hosted enemy fighting if you like mixed martial arts and combat sports. You should check out our weekly show. The enemy our each Monday. 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Song writers producers journalists listen to switched on pop. Every week starting in March on the apple podcast app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to QA. With your voice queuing me. Joe Rigo on the silver black pride podcast network. Powered by nation Q posed the question what next for the raiders in free agency, not just who they're going to bring in or looking to bring in but with the wrong guys. Now, we're broke tonight that a Jared cook he has the opportunity to meet with the saints coming up. He's taking a trip to New Orleans monitoring the situation from what I've been told. But he may be the number one tried into on the market, and he made up into war Orleans when it's all said and done are you willing to give him eight million maybe ninety year for four years to remain a raider or you willing to let him walk and hopefully be able to draft two guys could come in and play right away for Jon Gruden offense. I'm willing to let them walk. I think he's a hell of a talent. But I don't wanna pay him. What did he thirty one thirty two? I don't want him to. I don't want to pay him for four years. And I know that they've been writing some really good contracts. So I have confidence that they can write something that's really like a two year contract. It'd be able to get out of it. But if he's gonna sign for eight or nine million or he's gonna go and and make that move to the saints or even heard the patriots as well. That's fine. You know, more power to them. I think that he was a nice piece for for Derek Carr. But I believe in Mike Mayock, I really do. And maybe I'm being foolish, but I really believe in his draft inability because he knows these guys he knows what he's looking for. He's a very good talent evaluator one of the best. I think in the business, and I think he's going to be able to get it. Right. There's a lot of tight ends in this draft. There is a lot of tight ends in this draft that you can go out there and target and the raiders have opportunities to get a first round side. And if they want to I think John gruden's definitely going to use at least one of those first round draft picks on offense. If not to I would like to see him do all three on defense. But I don't think that's how it's going to shake out. I think he's definitely gonna use at least one on the offense aside the ball. And honestly, if there's not a wide receiver there, and I'm okay with not taking receiver. I'd be great will take a tight. I I'd have no problem with that. So jerry. Can go out there and get that big time money. This is probably his last opportunity to get a big contract going out of your business, man. You know, go ahead and get that. And the raiders will dip into the draft and see what they can do their. I think if the raiders are going to use any of the first round picks on offense will be tied in and get to be twenty seven the reason why if you have a guy if you're twenty seven nurse aide picks later, you're at thirty five you're probably gonna have the same type of let's say cornerback or deep it's lime in and they're going to be graded really similar. You'll be good. They're reading tailings. And looking things moves a look at a team like the Green Bay Packers who spent a lot of money on Wednesday to bring in three defense players and an offense alignment very team that I believe is gonna take tied in twelve. Are they gonna know you're looking at Noah fonder hockessin at twelve. And then Trevor one is not there, you're probably gonna see one in the mid twenties. And then it's earth Smith junior. And then there's a fall. Off. So you don't wanna be the guy that misses out on one of those big three, and then be stuck when having to do with the guy that aren't as good artists impactful. I'm thinking twenty seven is unless they both of them are off the board by twenty four and you're sitting there twenty four hundred look the guy like a lot of twenty four should be there. Twenty seven then take twenty four I think one of those two picks. And I'm I would say as it today. Twenty seven we'll be the spot to look for tight end for the raiders if they let cook go. Yeah. I think it'd be definitely in the either twenty four twenty seven I can't really pinpoint it to just one just because you just don't know how the boards going to shake out in front of them before they get to twenty four you'll know who's gonna make a trade who's gonna make moves. But I think that they're going to look for a tied in and I could see it being one of those last two picks right there, you the twenty four twenty seven if that's where they're picking it. I mean, there's a good chance that they moved back from four. So they do that who knows where they're at. You know, who knows what they're picking at at that point. So I mean, there's so many variables that can happen. But I don't expect it to be the first pick that they have in the draft. That's for sure. So I'm thinking in the second in the second or the back end of the the first round either twenty four twenty seven they look for the best tight end as their or the one that they covered the most of I I like Noah allot Noah fan. I like him a lot. But like you mentioned you think he's gonna go. Hi, maybe even twelve that. I in my opinion that it'd be very high for. But again, you just don't know how that boards gonna shake out and who's going to be there and who's gonna want you know, what they want at that spot. So it should be interesting. He's my favorite I like earth Smith a lot from Alabama. But I'm dude who really likes Alabama guys as well. So sometimes a little jaded, I I'll admit that off the top little a little bit. I mean. If you had your wavy Quin Williams through be herbs Smith, drew. It'll be MAC Wilson theon Thompson. I'm I'm not really that keen on the Thompson. I did in the national championship game. All I remember seeing the back of his jersey, and that wasn't very good. So that's crazy. Okay. So let's talk about some guys. Well, we will. Let's talk about this some house cleaning mongo Feliciano who the raiders really hope to sign and plugging the left guard. Buffalo often a lot of money more than the raiders. He took a chance to go there and start right away in buffalo with been the bills guys. They John Brown. Coal Beasley Frank gore. Yano? I mean, they add that if somebody else today as well, they really added some really nice pieces, and they they did they actually the giants called them before they call Cleveland back to check into see if they were interested in Odell veterans. Well, exactly they're trying to make some moves. Oh, yeah. And they added the all pro kick returner Roberts Andre Roberts as well. From the jets. Okay. So they they added a bunch of guys buffaloes team that gots Niki good. And I like their. Coach McDermott the guy's really buying him. So listen Yano gone to buffalo. And then we turn back to what could be, you know, there's there's some names out. There is a few of them. I have a few written down that kinda come is potential candidates. I talked about one earlier aired very new we know how the raiders like plucking former chief and bringing them into the silver and black and then having success seen them do it. We're rich Gannon. We seen them do with Harvey. William running gas Albert Wilson of remember Lewis. The last year to just didn't last long. Yeah. And he actually enjoyed his time in Oakland. He said, yeah, he thought it was they're doing things the right way. So that's always a good thing. But Eric vary is coming off in Killys that was they said day-to-day, but really it was almost month to month. You only played in like three games last year tuned a regular season one in the postseason, so far according to NFL network, and I believe it was Mike garafolo said that the doctor is a foot specialist was working on the work on his achilles said he should be good to go this year. She's fully cleared as somebody for a low a low deal the on the lower end that somebody that you really take a chance on if you're Jon Gruden might may know, I stay away from him. I mean, he's got damaged goods. He's damaged goods his wheels. A is. And if you're real is damaged man, you good to me as far as I'm concerned. Look he might be. Healthy. And this might be a good season for them. But I he's clearly on the decline of his career. And I just I just say no to him. I would pass on them. I bet you can get them probably on the cheap. And yet it'd be a nice little dagger to hit a hit Kansas City with. But I I just think that you could do better at this time at this stage of the game. You could probably do better. Clearly, there's guys at wanna play for the raiders where a lot of people thought people weren't gonna wanna play for the raiders. Oh, man. No one's gonna go on for that team their disaster their circus. Clearly, that's not the case. So they've had no problem being able to get guys to go to Oakland. And I'm sure that they're going to be able to get guys as well. Other guys as well. I just I'm just not very high on Eric berry. It was a good story. Everything that he's overcame and his his life in his career has been awesome. I wish him the best put at this point of the game. I just think that you know, his better days are behind him. And just go ahead. And and let them sail off into the sunset or sign with another team. I agree. I I would probably pass on berry. Just because I wanna younger died in there. I want Abrams. I know outer the guy that everybody has been on the raiders scouted him intensely earlier in the year all season that Delaware. Herb Adderley is is a hall of Famer. But I like Abrahams from Mississippi State. There's something about the way he plays. This the fact that he's a shirt hackler that he just flies to the ball. That's the type of guy. I would want on the back end of the first round he's available. But let's stay in Kansas City. We talked about this other guy earlier as well. The raiders pass rush. Someone opposite Arden key a guy that's out there that you probably could bring in and use him in various situations. Justin, Houston, you know, if he's used as a situational pass rusher. Like Dwight franey was late in his career. I could see that. But just in Houston, the problem with him is keeping them healthy when he's healthy. And he's engaged. He could definitely make things happen. So if he's a situational pass rusher, which sounds like a luxury if he is that guy I could see that if he's going to be that guy he'd be on the cheap as well. But dwight. Free who and I hate to say because for new a hall of Famer he's one of the best ever do it. But at the end of his career, he just like I said was that situational guy? You know, he came in on third and long he came in on second long. I mean, he was that guy passing situations. Okay. Hey, you know, Dwight go get him. You know, go hit him with the spin move get him with the club or whatever. And and that's what he did. If Justin Houston kind of adapt. And be that, dude. And I know he was kind of that guy last season with the chiefs if he can do that with the raiders, I wouldn't have a problem. Go ahead. And and giving a flyer on him check him out because again right now, the only real pass rusher on the roster is Arden key. And he didn't have a lot of success from the the the pass rushing. The the edge in two thousand eighteen he got there. He got home. He got his hands on the quarterback his problem with getting them to the ground. So yeah, I I wouldn't have no problem going head. You know, just giving him something. Very cheap veteran minimum or whatever maybe a little bit more and letting him go ahead and be that situational guy. I think they may have interest for the right price. I don't think he has interested in them. I think he wants to go to a team like New York with the jets to play with a Greg Williams. They got money to they got money. That's true. And they and they and they spent we'll talk about Levy, I'm Bill maybe a little bit later. The fact that the teams need a pass rush, and they let their to pass rushers go that to me is a is a red flag in the the alarms are up as a warning another guy who's been been hit with the injury bug last few years that a lot of success rushing. The quarterback EMA slide inside play some inside linebacker, and there's no guarantee he's going. He's going to go back to his former team, but clay Matthews. He's got us available as a free agent Green Bay's letting them go. There is some interest of bringing back at a reduced rate. Like five million dollars one year five million dollar proven type contract is that somebody you'd wanna see donning, silver and black. Clay Matthews is a pros pro you know, there's not too many guys come for Green Bay that aren't he's just those are one of those franchises. That are really well ran they always have been now, obviously twenty nineteen they're doing things a little bit different. It's not tit Thompsons Packers anymore. But. At the same time. It's their professionals. They're they're they're pros pros in. So if claim after us has any desire to go to the raiders and be a part of getting them back to where they need to be and be a guy that can help out and maybe mentor Arden key a little bit and help him with some technique and help him master the art of actually completing the sack I wouldn't have no problem with that. And you know, he he's got that long hair. I could see it coming out of that helmet. And you know, have that silver and black and here in hell's bells in the background of him getting a little juiced up. Yeah. It's all good, man. I I don't have no problem. Clay matthews. I wouldn't be opposed to clean Matthews coming in. I think in order for quite a be successful Gunther. We'll have to move him around to various places he L any movement inside moon to the right side of the left side. That's gonna have to do and you have to pick a spot to rush. He's not an every down player anymore. Right. Somebody. I've watched his entire career last year. He got hosed on a few calls for roughing the passer. That weren't roughing the passer calls ridiculous one couple of cost. His former teams from game. But at the end of the day, I think quake could be affective as a situational pass rusher not necessarily every down three down linebacker anymore. He's just not that guy can see somebody that is and just was released today. Zac Brown from the Washington Redskins plays middle linebacker. He's a guy that can get sidelined the sideline is that. A very productive career believe with the titans and then with the Redskins the rest games were really trying to find a way to bring CJ Moseley until the Justice out spit everybody to keep him from Alabama north. So what do you think about that ground potentially being a raider? I liked him a few years ago when the raiders attempted to bring him in before Washington got their hands on them. I I liked him a few years ago. And I remember that the raiders offered him a certain amount of money, and he wasn't. He didn't think that that was enough. And so he kind of clown them or talk about him on Twitter a little bit kind of look low key comments about the raiders. So I'm kind of out on the Brown thing. I think he's older and the tooth now. He's not really that guy. There's a reason why the Redskins let him go, especially when defence is basically their bread and butter. I know that they left they let another guy goes. Well, I think who was it a it was another former raider or he wasn't a for that ground was the former raider. But this guy that they let go with him. He was a former Reiter, and I forget who it was. But anyway, yeah, just I'm not big on Brown anymore. I think is better days behind him. So I'm good. I pass on that, dude. I would actually take you me. And I think he's the guy that can and will be successful wherever he goes get. I think he's a cop cement pro-. I don't recall this stuff on Twitter, but I do recall sky having over one hundred tackles and making plays for the Redskins. I like him. I think play I like to do I like to but his production has gone down each and every year. It's twenty sixteen twenty sixteen. He was had a Moscow year with the bills under a believe Rex Ryan at the time one hundred forty nine tackles, then in twenty seven hundred twenty seven tackles last year ninety six tackles, you know. I mean, it's like. His production. His sacks of going down. I know Sackler his number one thing. But I mean, he goes from four to two and a half to one. He has one interception zero interceptors there. I mean, everything about his production is slowing down. It's just kind of like his age is starting to slow down. So I just I I don't know, man. I mean, if they're desperate for a linebacker that can get it done. And I know he knows the game. And he'd probably be one of those guys that Paul gutter wouldn't have a problem bringing in and just kinda plugging him in. But I I just feel like you can go and get a guy out of the draft. And and he can plug and play and be your guy for quite a while Paul guy that is available Montana. Perfect home. Brought the day conversation considered the history that he has seen him in AB. But would you birthed on your team, man? I don't that dude. I don't think so he's he's not gonna play a whole season. He'll be suspended for four games. And then it'll be you know, I mean, then he'll he'll he'll miss another couple for injury. Now. He's just a dirty, dude. You know, I mean, and then again, you brought up a AB. I don't know how that would go over in the locker room either. I don't know if AB wants to all of that do can walk. In in because I mean, he feels wronged by too. So I I don't know. I think I'd have to give it a strong pass. But at the same time you do need you do need a car thief on your team. And I don't think they have that Carthy it. I like the fact that on defense you have to have a few those guys they gotta have it. Ain't no screws in it. Yeah. He's a no they need goons like that. Yeah. Do the raiders have that on defense? Currently do they have anybody like that currently under defense? Then you're walking down the alley. You're like, man. Yeah, I'm cool. 'cause I got I got Q Whitney. No. I mean, they don't they don't they don't have that dude right now. I don't think I mean, I'm trying to think of who they have that. They could even think about considering. I mean mo- hers is a dog Jonathan Hagans is a dog, but that's on the defensive line. And that's right there in the in the middle detached positions either they need a guy that can that could roam. And and, you know, be make you make you fear coming across the middle of the field. So now, I mean, they don't have that guy. They need that guy. But they don't have. I don't think so well someone that in thirty that's available and wash down the west coast and dominant sue he's not gonna resign with the Rams and Rappaport reported as either the Seahawks chargers or raiders are his preferred destinations would you be interested in coming in and playing on that defensive mind. Yes. Yeah. I would be I don't know if he's going to be motivated like he was towards the end of the season with the with the Rams, you know, I mean there are certain parts of the season. Where look I okay. This is a guy that. We know who he is. You know, he's that Nebraska sue, and then there was size where it's like where do you go? Is there any kind of disappeared on that playoff run with the Rams on the way to the Super Bowl? Also, you see he was a motivated, dude. And if he's gonna come in there and be a motivated, dude. Yeah. I can see that. And again that that you wanna talk about goon that is an absolute goon. I'd be okay with that as well. Hail. Yes. Now, if you wanna put together the alternate goon squad high ham, amber fit to no, no, no that that'd be great. You kidding me? That doubt be like old school. Tom Flores, Lau Vado net million raiders, bro. Now, if needed the the real like, okay, the league is out to get us because every tag will there is a flag for sportsmanlike conduct or or spinning or whatever I would be down for that. If I can get though I'm down for that, bro. The old school raiders win survive in this in this day and age of football. They wouldn't they couldn't make it. There's no way there'd be Jackson's. You can't have that. That's those cats would be they'd be old school writers that couldn't make it. Those those school teams would not there's so many players that are in the hall of fame. They got a goal Jackie that if they played now, they would never make it. They wouldn't even be that guy because they're not allowed to do half the stuff that they did it just wouldn't work and that goon squads together get those two guys together. Oh, no, no. You can't do that. Imagine the fund that that defense could have though about I mean, if you really think about it, you get those two there would be a lot of fun. That'd be fun to watch you want. Somebody with an attitude plays with an edge. Somebody that's available. As of right now is lot receiver golden Tate. Is that somebody that you wanna have in your locker room that could play plays with an edge? And they can do the dirty work to maybe free up. Antonio Brown's and free up tyrel Williams and give car national security blanket just underneath routes. I actually was one in the raiders the grab a golden Tapei. I don't want the raiders the grab him. Now. I think that they've already done enough as far as a free agents go with, you know, grabbing Antonio Brown by trade, and then giving him a little guarantee money, and and now tyrel Williams giving him that big deal. I don't think they need to go get golden Tate. I think joy Nelson could be you know, could could do the dirty work from the slot in and do some some dirt over the middle and be that possession receiver. I think they can also pick up a nice wide receiver in the draft as well. So if they hadn't gone and got Tyrell Williams, I could see them using golden Tate as some similar to what like anquan Boldin was at the end of his career with the forty Niners. And you know, what I mean that kind of guy where he's just that the hands do the possession, dude. He can get some yak yards, obviously. But I think that I at this point I could pass golden Tate, but I did like him originally. But then after they signed tyrel Williams. I was good. I'll take it that you feel family about Randall Cobb day. Yeah. No, definitely passing Randall Cobb. I would agree on both cases. We got an Email, and it was like or excuse me, the tweet from a j k b k. Thirteen sixteen that asks the he heard the raiders and the bears are talking about a deal that would send Jordan Howard to the raiders as true or not. I haven't heard anything about that to be honest with you know, I haven't either matter of fact here that he's probably going to get cut. So I don't know if they would really going to make a trade for him. I think he's a guy that you can wait it out. And and hang out and see if the the bears released him, he's not a guy that fits what? Matt Nagy wants to do in Chicago. He just doesn't fit their scheme. And sometimes that happens. They have a really good offense. Or they have very creative off. It's not gonna say it's good yet. But they have creative offense, and he's just not a part of it. So I could see them letting him go. But I don't think that the raiders have to make a trade form if they're interested in they just got a hold it. Hold out a little while, and he'll probably be released choice of draft or who's left as a free agent or one back that you could realistically ad or a draft pick or whatnot. Who would it be? What way would you go? Well. Route. So a guy in the draft to to you have your choice. You get one choice. You can either if you drafting somebody you're probably bringing back Lynch for one year, and you get everything that that comes with marshawn. If you go free agent, you're not bringing Lynch back or if your trading for running back, though, you have to be realistic. It's like they're going to trade. We'll give up our second round pick for saquon Barkley, right, right? Not going to happen. They're not trading Barkley. So would you choose one route with route would it be? And if it's a free agent or trade who would that be I'm going to go draft. And I got two guys that I'd pick. I'd pick a pick you the data from Alabama socking and or pick Darrelle Henderson from Memphis. One of those two cats of the way, I'd go bottomline if I'm gonna go and get a guy that's running back. That's the only way I'm going to go. I'm not going to bring in a free agent. Now, if a guy like Jordan Howard, happens of end up, you know, cutting release maybe I'll I'll look at him and kick the tires on him. But honestly, I think guy like Darrell Henderson a guy like Josh Jacobs could do wonders in gruden's offense. And you know, I have no problem bringing marshawn Lynch back one more year to play in Oakland for the final year. And hopefully, he's motivated in season Tonio Brown out there and thinks that hey, this team can do some things and kind of reminds him of his own ole Seahawks teams, go out there and and tries to get after it one more time. So that would that would be fine with me that that'd be the way I'd go I'll go draft. And it would be Henderson last thing. 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Dak's worth | Luck's injury

"It's the stink in truth. Podcast with marc slayeth presented by core water podcast. I'm your host mark slurred along with my co-host mike evans and scott to hub producing the show. This spot right here is for sale and he would like to sponsor this show. You can just get him to hit me up on twitter mark schaller easy right. I'll direct message you back the next thing you know you're cut me a cheque. At how cool is that mike. It's great to be with you man so excited for the football season so many topics the n._f._l. Is the gift that keeps on giving right. It's a i mean it's three sixty five twenty twenty four seven. Just i mean monster that needs to be fed and there's a lot of things to talk about all your low well if they're the gift that keeps on giving an antonio brown on is santa claus because does that make sense that make sense santa claus that give the yes. I think it was anybody give more gifts to us right now than i an tonio brown. No and santa is a big time gift giver yes. I thank you antonio brown. Can you believe he so. He's back in the raiders facility for the first time since july thirtieth right and he's like yeah you know wish i could be here but you know some unfortunate events kind of befell. Tell me some in four you talk about self inflicted wounds. I've i've had a series of fortunate events yeah because you're a moron and you make a bunch of bad decisions that are all about you. I'm gr- i'm happy to be back with my team-mates. That's what he said. I'm happy back with teams. Are they happy to have you back like seriously. You missed all this time. One you gotta kreil vac thing crou- back i was machine is at the crowd you have. Are you familiar with kreil back. Have you ever done never been in a kreil vac machine. You should try not going there but it's supposed to shrink drink like it's really cold. Maybe just looking over the size of your head. We could use some significant shrinkage over there. You know what i'm saying. I do have a giant head. You do have a big mellon but yeah. I mean it's it's it's state of the art now. All these athletes are doing this. You g- winning with bare feet it goes to like minus one hundred degrees fahrenheit or some crap like that had i mean it makes no sense to me but the real issue is the reason you haven't been in camp is because i mean you're a petulant child who wants to wear we're a helmet that has been deemed unsafe and so the the n._f._l.'s basically said with the n._f._l. P._a. by the way this is a joint venture between the two so they've said hey. We're going to anything over ten years. That doesn't pass certification. We're now. We're no longer going to let you wear these helmets and so it's not like again. Tonio brown's the only guy right. Tom brady has complained about having to change homeless put he did it. There's a bunch of other guys. There's probably five or six other guys on his team that had to change their helmets out and yet. They're they're a camp. He's the one that didn't show up and i will tell you you talk to anybody who's played with antonio brown and they'll tell tell you on the practice field. He's an absolute monster. I mean there's nobody that works harder. That goes full moore's full speed. All those things like there's nobody out works in all this stuff now now. He may not show up to meetings or she'll mandatory events or he may miss the flight or whatever the case may be but you know when he's actually on kale's yeah he's actually on the field the guy the guys unbelievable right so i just like these are self inflicted wounds. You haven't been with your teammates. Not because of unfortunate series of of circumstance is because you chose not to be with your teammates. That's what it that's why my let's accept responsibility here right. You chose not to show oh up because you you know wind like a child about the helmet that you wanted to wear. That's what it it comes down to but what does it all mean wasn't mean for the raiders. Okay he's back. So what does all this mean moving forward well. I mean i think i think the raiders are a team that new kind of they were realistic with where they were last year talking to the raiders doing a raiders game last year on fox <hes> just domain listen we we're gonna strip this thing down to the studs and rebuilt it so he's part of their rebuilding process like you look at their roster when i was calling their game i'm looking at their wide. Receiving leaving core might not one guy on here. Who's a legit like even number two receiver that a bunch of number three. I don't think there's any receiver on their football team. That was is there last year. That's kind of where they were so they've really strip this thing down. I think they've done a good job of starting to rebuild the talent base you know but but i mean they've got a ways to go but he's instant offense like you have a quarterback that you want to make a decision on antonio brown assistant office the the guy as legit the guy is legitimately uncomfortable and so <hes> he certainly is a big play waiting to happen but we always talk talk about this mike. We always talk about when they revamp a coaching staff when they come in with new coaches. It's about reestablishing culture right. Does that guy help you reestablish a winning culture okay. Here's where i'm going to disagree with you because these are the raiders tres okay. Antonio brown comes from the steelers. The steelers had a super bowl winning culture a super bowl expectation in culture that antonio brown hurt the raiders the raiders okay so the raiders would love to have the kind of culture that the steelers had this past year even one that was hurt by antonio brown so my argument is in all this is that that the raiders are at a point right now. They need talent. They need talent. They need difference makers they have they need guys that are going to make the remaining fans ends in oakland and the new fans in vegas pay attention and the n._f._l. Talent league they send that message out constantly with all the bad guys do bad things that continue to get second third fourth opportunities in this league because of their talent and right now. I know oh that you're about culture because you were part of winning cultures all over the place in your time in the n._f._l. But the raiders have to acknowledge who they are right now and right now they need more talent than they need to worry about guys who are going to build some eventual super bowl culture i think see i think you fall in you fall into do a a narrative. That sounds really good about talent but you know one when you're building football team. There's no right way to do something wrong and when you put selfish players out there when you play you will you players that are more concerned about <hes> about statistics than they are about wins losses. That's a problem all that and and that will permit an organization and it doesn't take many of those guys to have an adverse effect on everybody else. I don't know why this is mike like an and i. I've always wondered about this. You can get you know you can get a roster of fifty. Three guys only takes two or three bad apples to spoil a bunch lunch of those players in it's amazing. You have all these professionals guys at work hard and do all this thing and there's this fine line that you stand on you. Tiptoe this this line and you get two or three guys on the opposite side of that line all of a sudden. It's amazing the the cultural effect. It has on your locker room. I don't know why that is. It's just that way. I would much rather have a group of guys that to me. It's it's kind of this is any walk of life or any business to mazing doing what you can accomplish when nobody cares who gets the credit and to me antonio brown is a guy that wants the credit like it doesn't matter the accomplishment as long as i get mine as long as i have ten or twelve targets. We're going to be cool. As long as i'm producing. We're gonna be cool but when i when you don't throw the ball then i'm thrown over water buckets or i'm doing whatever it is that i'm going to do and i'm going to stop and scream and and i'm not showing up to meetings and i'm gonna miss. You know mandatory things to to make my point and also i'm going by. Mike is is what i have to go by which is his past and we've got a snippet of things that have happened that have become public knowledge. I'm telling you what go behind closed doors and talk to some of the people. I've talked to many. We're not even scratching the surface of some of the stuff that cat has done and and i and i for one i'm with you on pittsburgh but i think he's been a big reason now. He's not the only one but a big reason that they didn't you you know make the playoffs last year or they having like you could make an argument that pittsburgh has been so uber talented on both sides of the ball to not win a championship in these last five or six years which is a travesty well when we're talking about culture guys attacked prescott. I think it's gone a long way towards reshaping yeah the <hes> the cowboys comedy. I'm a big. I like that a lot you like him so much that you pay him forty million a year. Let's not get like let's not get crazy easy like let's not like. Let's that's among the reports are that he wants forty well i. I think there's a couple of things going on here one. I think that that you look at dak prescott. You know the guys who are getting paid more than anybody else in the league like guys. He's like you know the aaron rodgers of the world ben rothlisberger the world now. I think the highest paid guy in the last contract. Negotiation was russell wilson right about thirty five million okay back those guys all have these things called super bowl championship trophies on their walls. <hes> that has not done that so there's two things i would say about this one on you always start the negotiation way higher than you know what you're eventually going to settle for right so i think that's part of it the other part. There's two things that have been released just here recently one is that dak turned down thirty million a year. Now i have to believe that that is release release. That information is released from dallas cowboys side because now it gets all the fans on the cowboys side. Jerry jones aside what thirty million dollars two years a fourth round draft pick. He hasn't you know he hasn't gone to a gone to a super bowl. Like are you kidding me and oftentimes when the league the teams announced those thirty million dollar a year those things are so backloaded and there's no frontloaded money. There's no guaranteed money that they're not really thirty million a year. They're fake monopoly money contracts but the team releases those numbers to make the player look bad. It's what happened happened. Kirk cousins for years in washington. It's a fake contract and so. I have no doubt that they offered him something that that said thirty million dollars dollars a year but it wasn't real money. It was backloaded that he was never gonna get so. I have no doubt that happened. I have no doubt that the cowboys released that information. I also also have no doubt. The cowboys also released the information that he asked for forty million a year because again. It gets everybody on their side like he's being unreasonable but here's what i would say about l. negotiations. If you know you have a guy and you know he's gonna be your future and you know you really like the guy and you think he's a great leader and he's got an old soul about him and and and you think he's going to be really good player and he's just gonna continue to progress. This is a classic case of make make sure you get to him. Proactively two years before his contract expires you think about it had the dallas cowboys cowboys come to him a year ago at this time and said here it is man. We're going to reward you twenty two million a year. He's a fourth round pick remember. Was he making right now this year. I think two million dollars like we're a this is not only generational this life changing money this goes from your your generation to the next generation in the generation after that and you still have two years left of making you know one point eight and two point two. You think you think that looks at that and goes. Yes you think his agents looking back and go yes see instead of why would you let your is is that you know are going to be part of your franchise. Get to the point where they can smell they. Can they look they go. Look free agency on the horizon. Why would you do that because the franchise tag now kirk cousins prove this the franchise tag now is a huge. It's huge money and it's one year fully guaranteed not big money deal right so it's going to be thirty. Plus million is going to be real thirty million a year. You know so. I mean i would always say that. That's something that you have a half to look at when it comes to the way you operate. What do you do if you're jerry jones because you've got you got. You got ezekiel elliott. You got amari cooper and i think a very telling comment here from jerry jones who said quote. I've gotta realize that i could let a demarcus ware out of here because i don't have enough money because i paid needed to many others that happen to me. I don't want that to happen again so but but again but how do you how what do you pay all three. It goes back to know and it goes without well. If you're gonna leave. You gotta leave one out that that has the shortest shelf life which which is zeke zeke yeah. I mean if you're gonna leave one but again this is this is management of your roster did you you think all of a sudden you were you. Were you after last season or during last season. Do you think you were making a decision legitimately that or not sure of dax czar guy we might wanna get dip back into the draft and see if one of these you know what's the kids named frahm from georgia or <hes> a to a tunnel. Oh oh la vote just call them to tour tongue valona viola viola not tongue tung too violent telling you just go with her to toungoo vile tongue of shallower tongue of a lower. I'm below all right good. It's close enough to we'll go with to tour. <hes> yeah. I mean are you. Are you willing to say hey. Let's you know let's poop. Can this season and <hes> and get ourselves the number one number two pick come on stop. It's it's unrealistic right. You've built a really good roster really young good ross. You got one of the best offense of lines and football yeah. I mean you've got. You've got a lot of talent you. You're we're just gonna use gonna can't it and go okay. Maybe we can get to a stop it. You knew you were going that direction. I mean you know what i'm saying. You knew you knew that's the direction. You're going to stay with it. So you prepare. Let zeke walk. If i have to yeah what leverage does zeke have running back in this league was and is is todd gurley as good as todd gurley. Early is is todd gurley in on a cautionary tale about playing playing that position so i mean that guy went from hey. He may be a <hes>. <hes> you know he may be an m._v._p. Candidate all the way up to week twelve and then from week twelve on he's taking to many hits and he's got an arthritic knee and things aren't convenes just non existent though the last four or five games of the season in the playoffs it just he just wasn't very good on the subject of the importance of quarterbacks. I like the colts this year. I think for all the talk all the breathless hyperbole. That's been thrown the cleveland browns way. I think the colts. It's are actually a much more serious threat in the a._f._c. but then i heard about andrew lock having yet another injury. This was good because you love the the use of fish you know a middle. Ish you like the use of issue right so how chris ballard the coach g._m. Saying that <hes> right now andrew luck latest injury injury is in the ankle ish area. Yeah yeah the ankle ish. That's brings a lot into play. Hey give me a high ankle. Sprain can be a calf. Be you know the dreaded achilles. Here's the thing you know remember kevin durant when his was a caffeine yes that all of a sudden became a popped achilles. See you know your calf muscle. Actually comes down and there's a junction point were for it becomes the ten in the kelly's tendon right like that that's like i have. I'm not a doctor and i haven't taken any a anatomy classes but i haven't heard lot and kind of fed twenty nine surgeries almost like a mini doctrine right but so a a calf injury if it was just a calf strain or some type of calf injury thing would heal within a couple of weeks. They're like hey he. He had this calf injury injury in the offseason. O._t._a.'s and it'll be fine by training camp and then it's like well it's not fine by train again but it at the beginning of spring but he'll be ready to go on a couple of weeks in the middle of training camp like hey he may not be able to go till week one or week two now like at what point does this go beyond a calf injury to become you know a tendon injury. There's something that's more significant does easy run the risk of plant really hard and pop in his achilles tendon like kevin durant. I mean this is this is again. Andrew andrew luck went from you know the greatest. The highest draft grade in mel kiper draft board can't miss can't miss prospect to <hes> to right now. The injury issues have really hindered his career and he was really good last year again but <hes> but very kind of frightening for indianapolis annapolis colson the colts fans isn't that right away for him to say ballard say it's not a definite that he's back for week one. I'm i'm reading between the lines there that they are thinking about what happened to durant that we have to be real right careful with this because it could eventually become something that you know is is is season ending career-threatening. There's i don't think there's any question but here's the deal if if like if it hasn't gotten significantly better to the point where you can play now like what makes you think that when the week one rolls around two rolls around and you go out there like they thought the kevin durant was going to be able to play that kevin durant was okay they it cleared him to play and as soon as he planted really hard you always to call it the button the button is when you have an injury three like you have something that's bothering you. When you get into the game that buttons get pushed right so you can go through practice and you can feel feel pretty good and you can do all those things but eventually when you get into the actual games that funds going to give it doesn't matter where the button is the buttons getting pushed and and that's kind of one of those buttons situations like you can get through practice and it's not as intense and everything else and you get into the game. There's just different. Shearing forces is on your body during games when real live guys are trying to pummel you and you plant really hard and pop goes the weasel. You know i mean that's the way it works. I always he's okay. I i i really like watching play. I like his personality. I in his league and the colts could be a really good team with him tatum and so i i i hope that this is just a minor set and yeah and and i also love the press conference stuff. I love the neck beard and i love the fact that he sowed really days. Lido boast you know is like blue really plus civil war account right. I need that too yeah. You gotta have the civil war kind of like the whole the whole thing. I mean it's all part of the package yeah you you got any <hes> ish areas in hurting right now. The all kinds of all kinds of share is of both the shoulders fish areas shoulder issue ed or shoulder ish area. Yeah sore knee ish area yeah yeah. I know all kinds of things things. You got my back cash. Hey everybody take take care of your issue. That's right. Take your your shake. Carry those issues right build. Be afraid to put some healing sav on your ish little go on your yeah that thing taken care of for everybody associated with the st jude podcast for myself for my for scott. We appreciate you listening. Thanks so much and we'll be back with you later on the week.

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Free Agency Extravaganza, Day 1

Around the NFL

1:10:05 hr | 1 year ago

Free Agency Extravaganza, Day 1

"Around with the NFL podcast will only answer to Mr. big chest. Welcome to another edition of the around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hans this and I'm joined in a room filled with heroes. Mark sesser, Chris Wesseling and Greg Rosenthal. What is up boys? Hate in free agency week is here. It's here boys, and, you know, high notes important week is Mark's got a sport coat on. You nailed got a text message eight forty two group. Text message labeled under eighteen boys. That's that's a sub head for the group boys with z with z eight forty two for Mark settler wearing a sports coat today. That's how you know. This is a big week. A lot of times I try to get certain amounts of laundry done during the weekend. And I'm not saying it's only for that reason. But I at the point where like all I had left were shirts. I hadn't really warned since two thousand fourteen. So I thought I'm gonna go out ladder. Now, let's be honest, though, there's a little bit of ambition bleeding out of the pores here. Sweating out of the ports. You wanna kill this week? You know, the eyes of the world football the world inside this building. What are the guy's going to say, oh, we have an fell dot com shows of video shows going up. We got our Twitter show coming up. We got four pods coming up this week. It's your time to shine. It's marks time. Well, I mean, it's I that none of that is so Kentucky wrong that I have no problem showing up in sports this specific week. But the idea that you would put it as personal ambitions misdiagnosed west brought up big velvet. So. Yes, this is a big week. I'm not. Yeah. You're you're we're in a place for competing with west is Wardrope at this point to slide where he was two years ago three years ago with his clothing he'd be wearing like an NFL network one of those like summary little short sleeved shirts, that they give something the NFL shop that was that was an old west move and west likes to say, it has nothing to do with the paramour come say, everything changed my style. Definitely changed. She brought it out of me. But a lot of what I pick out in wear gets credited to her then you wear velvet today who would have thought to I like Belvedere defensive-minded head coach that hired a great offensive coordinator. You're not really happy that he's getting or she in this case all the pop for scoring so many points and. No way, shape or form. I defensive minded head coach. I am all offense baby. All right. Oh, yes. It's a week. So we start this show was breaking stood better better. Not be about Paul Reiser. Breaking news sources, according to Ian Rapoport. Former giant star Landon Collins is signing with the Washington Redskins for eighty four million dollars over six seasons. Interesting as we as we start the show that literally drops bar. So the giants made the decision that they could not at least what it seemed from the outside. They could've decided Landon Collins was worth star money. But Wes, the the Redskins the Washington football organization. They have no qualms they have zero qualms playing against him twice a year every year and saw how much of a difference maker. He is. So how much of a playmaker he is. And they seem to be really reshaping their defense word around the campfires there in on CJ Moseley to and are willing to trade Nason foster and Zac Brown their inside linebackers. So this could be a totally different defense next essentially do not trust the Redskins front office to do much of anything. Right. I mean that just seems to be. An ongoing theme for them. But who is an under intense pressure to produce immediately this season and their defense has been an issue for a long time. Well that includes their defensive coordinator who they kept Greg Muskie, even though they literally interviewed people for his job, and then didn't hire them. And this is a team. We've talked about it here. That's desperate. And I think people have looked at the Alex Smith contract and thought, okay? Well, this team, you know, isn't going to be able to spend, but they have some cap space. And I think they they're approaching the Alex Smith situation, especially after getting case keenum, the only way they can which is just it's a sunk cost, and you just have to ignore that happens. I mean, Pittsburgh is paying as much for Tonio Brown on the cap as Washington is paying for Alex Smith, and they're still going to try to do business, and this is aggressive. I wanna see the guaranteed money. But it certainly is good news. I think for all the safeties out there trying to make some money this year. Because no matter what it is in the first two or three years and the guaranteed money. Going to be a lot. And he's going to be the highest paid rap. She has forty five million guaranteed and paid out over the first three years, they go. All right. A lot of big names on the move. Another one is Nick foles. It's been speculated for weeks and weeks that he would end up with the Jacksonville Jaguars. And that's exactly where Nick foles ended up. He signs deal a sausage deal. Mark Cecil with the Jaguars that goes four years or eight million includes fifty million in guaranteed money and Markle start with you on this one so foles, despite the fact that there weren't a lot of teams that were connected to him. Maybe just one team. And it was the Jacksonville Jaguars. He stills. He's still gets big time starter money or competitive starter money. I think when the numbers came out. There was a lot of weight course year this been talked about your team competing against no one. Why wouldn't you try to bargain basement the quarterback position and Mike garafolo said it perfect Lennon NFL network that their viewpoint was what do you? Telling the rest of your locker room. If you bring in Nick foles at a discount rate, you wanna make it clear that he's your starter. For now. He's you're starting quarterback you pay them like one you start that relationship off well versus something sort of more in the contancts region. And for me like the this is about what other quarterback where you're gonna go get that you could be secure in as a week two weeks starter there just weren't that many out there unless you wanna go in the draft. And I don't think that this regime has enough time on their hands to convince Jaguars public that we're gonna we're gonna slow cook a quarterback for two or three years. This is about Nick foles the person to they've really this guy who I think is leadership and what we hear about. Nick foles has been growing in positive and he's a bit of a transformed person along with player. I think he he had plenty of leverage. Blake Bortles and teddy Bridgewater, whereas leverage and John D flip. Oh, the offense coordinator they brought in who has worked with Nick foles in the past. This is leverage. You don't wanna go back to Bortles? You don't wanna? Pay for Bridgewater who you weren't interested in last year has one starting three years and was outplayed by undrafted rookie in that start. Go get the best quarterback available. That's that's Nick foles leverage. Right. And you don't know what a ceiling? I I like it. Because it's I think they should keep taking shots. They should try to develop a quarterback. They probably won't 'cause teams never do this. But they should still draft a quarterback. Maybe even in the first round. I don't care. Oh, what's the big problem that you're going to you have too many great quarterbacks? It's like wow needs. Right. A lot of I know they do and it so it's probably not gonna happen in the first round. But I don't think you close your mind to developing quarterbacks because he signed it falls. I also wanna see the specifics on the deal how much guaranteed into the second year. My guess is it's basically a two year contract. And then they'll see see what he looks like he can get better. I mean quarterbacks do get better throughout any has been not just visibly better. And with the ceiling of the greatest performance, I think in Super Bowl history by a quarterback. But he's talked. About how he looks at the sport differently. And how he looks at the position differently in terms of how he interacts with his teammates and everything like that. You're getting a different Nick foles than the guy that went to Kansas City, so many years ago million guaranteed or whatever it ends up being is a big investment. It could end up being an overpay. But I agree with everything you guys are saying that this is a team that made its bed when they gave Blake Bortles at unnecessary extension. They ate it this year, and they needed to move over to the -sition that needed to make a splash voles to me an efficient effective splash to make a now. Now, we'll find out what the what the Jaguars if that defense can now turn back to twenty seventeen status because it wasn't all Bortles leisure. There are other problems with this team. They need to have a much better year and twenty nineteen that's fair. The offensive line was so banged up. And so awful last year, they need wide receiver core was awful running better. There's a there's a lot going on. But to me, it's not that Nick foles or any of these. Level starting quarterbacks like cousins that's overpaid. I mean under overpaid. It's just like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers and those guys are like crazy underpaid. It does sort of make no sense that all quarterbacks is make the same amount of money. Good chatter liked it. We're gonna keep moving. There's so much talk about very exciting. How about this Sean Jackson? Let's the slow his name out there. Two years in Tampa didn't really take off didn't work yet some moments early on in twenty eighteen especially when fits magic to cold for a few weeks there. But it didn't work out the bucks. We thought maybe he could be released. Instead a trade. He's going back to the eagles. Twenty twenty seventh round pick and Jackson from the bucks in exchange for a twenty nineteen sixth round pick. The eagles also signed to Sean Jackson to a new three-year twenty seven million dollar deal. So Jackson who's been around awhile? He's thirty two years old will turn thirty three during the twenty nineteen season. But west we saw last year that he could still tear the top off a defense in the eagles want that element in their office. We have to worry about a player who's going to be thirty three years. Old in his game is built on speed and nothing else. Just speed. And he's taught us something about quarterbacks in Tampa that he was on fire last year with Ryan Fitzpatrick who has a weak arm, but throws a pretty Deepal. And now he's going to Philadelphia where Nick foles doesn't have the strongest arm in the world. But throws a pretty depot. Carson Wentz has a strong arm and doesn't put enough loft on the ball. So I'm wondering how that connection will work. It's definitely filling a need. Mike Wallace didn't work out in Philadelphia. They need that speed. Gotta stretch to feel it can't work out worse than like Wallace. But they do keep getting older aging deep threats, and it just at some point. If this doesn't work out again, you've got to look at a younger person for that fit. But what I love about this is it just shows you that these NFL feuds die so hard. This felt to me like one final Howie Roseman f you to shift hell. A few. I mean, they've I'm curious if they're going to keep Nelson Aguilar, who's do nine point five million dollars. I have a feeling they might cut or trade him later in this week. He's not really deep threat anyways. And I I hear you long-term west on the Sean Jackson, but for two thousand nineteen I think, that's really all. They're thinking about in the short term. He led the league in yards per -ception. I mean, so he's yards per kick. He's built on speed. And he still totally has it at least in two thousand eighteen it's not gonna last forever. But he has shown no signs of really dropping off. Carson Wentz said a lost year in two thousand eighteen you wanna give him a good team around him to really try to bounce back. He is your guy after all you chose them over Nick foles will now have God. Adding Zach ertz there Sean Jeffrey, not a bad offense. There's Garmendia running back. They look a lot more loaded in the passing game than it did last year. Let's talk about an old face. Mark Antonio Brown. We're going to get to a minute. He left the AFC north. He is now out west. Also joining him in the Pacific time zone, Terrell. Suggs, he leaves the ravens after sixteen years in Baltimore. And he's going to agree has agreed to terms with the the cardinals. He will be outside linebacker. He's working under Vance Joseph three four system. He still seems to have it. He's an old man now maybe slow too little bit. But still can get to the rusher. Still a beast your thoughts in that move. Mark someone to pair with Chandler Jones. It's one of those signings though, where the looking at him in a different uniform. I can't I think the weirdest one for me ever was Peyton Manning. Suddenly in a Broncos uniform took me months to or anyone else's concern. That's my issue recovered. No, I at by the end of the. Preseason. It was like, okay, I get it. But this guy is going to be weird to see in anything other than purple and white. And I find to be. From personal experience of of him on the field after the ravens won the Super Bowl a less than delightful character. But I wish him. Well. Do you do you? I mean, would you be totally cool. And you could say yes, by the way, because thrill suggs, God knows not not the best person you'd be fine. If he's going to have a single second Zona, nobody would fall for it. I'm not going to spend a lot of time with that as my major concern. But I, you know, tease head to find career at this point. He was still playing at a high level last year. It was solid. He's one of those signings and. He went to high school in Arizona. He went to Arizona state. So that's great for him. It's nice and warm. There's always these guys every year. That's like, well, we're going to sign him to kinda be an example to the young guys in bring kind of the work, hard culture. And like, so we're going to give him a little extra money to kind of be the guy who sets the program and say, I don't know. I've never been an NFL. Maybe that is totally worth it. I have. No, I have no idea if that's worth it or not. But there's always a couple of those. It's like, well, we gotta we gotta bring in sucks show. All the I'm not sure he's first guy. I'd put into the mentor category. But put it this way. He knows how to play in the NFL. He knows how to be a professional player at a high level year after year after year. Like he's done it for eighteen years. He was like twenty years old when it gave me is gonna roll a lot of these young men in ball so hard university. And they will excel Mark. Not just I wanna see I wanna see the teaching credential, but not just football lessons. Lifelock also hard. BSU? Well, good riddance. Ball B S H U. Ball so hard either. Moving on. We have some slot receivers coming off the market. Let's start with Adam Humphreys who signs or will signed. I gotta catch myself. Their league geared is not start now to Wednesday. The official Adam Humphreys to sign with the Tennessee titans. The former bucks slot guy. I guess a four year thirty six million dollar deal west you like yourself some Adam Humphreys and the titans they need some weapons around that quarterback throws about twelve touchdowns a year about a guy you can trust in the slot. As a nice shot at Morio. Like, this is a little bitter sweet for me. Because what Adam Humphreys is one of my guys like he is what you want us lot. He's like in your wedding party at this. I mean, doesn't this already clinched the team of west the L? It's the titans again. I wanted him for the cools. I wanted to be throwing to Adam Humphreys because they could really enhance each other. And I just don't have that faith and Marcus mariota anymore. It's definitely a need for the titans. They've needed a slot receiver for a few years now. And they got a good one. This is what you want in a slot received this kind of worry that he could disappear in all of. Yes. Titans wide receivers always disappear. Are you? So you're sticking with the colts for longer than you stuck with the tight to know. This is about wanting to see a player going to where he will succeed in his best and help the quarterbacks seated into his best and the colts. I felt really confident that they could really make each other as good as they could possibly one hundred million dollars in Cabra. Now, they don't have to spend all that. But to us point the seems like one of those useful players that could have had one hundred ten catches with Andrew luck. Instead he's going to have fifty four catches with the titans in two hundred twelve yards. Slack is getting paid though. I mean Jamison Crowder Jamison Crowder signs with the jets the former Redskins a three year twenty eight and a half million dollar contract with seventeen million guaranteed. So kind of in that same group I like the signing so far like Big Mac stolen right now last few days. He's twenty six years old bad year last year, but he was beat up. So you kinda wipe it out. Alex Smith, wasn't working the whole thing was a mess in Washington. So you. Take a slot receiver. You pair them with the kid and Sam darnold guy you can trust. And maybe the develop a report with and we are flying towards tennis six you aren't paying that in Tonio, Brandon. I think the jets have something going at wide receiver. They might need. It could use another body or two, but this is not the worst wide receiver room in that division and both Crowder and Humphries. The original reports on their their salaries is under ten million dollars a year. And I actually think slot receivers catching up, but compared to other free agency free agent positions. I think they're worth. I mean, I don't think nine million dollars is outrageous for Jamison Crowder at all. It's I think at seventeen million over the next two years. I really like him. He was my favorite of kind of this crop of slot receivers. I think he's going to make life easier for Sam darnold like Kirk cousins won't stop talking about. Jamison crowder. Just like what a nice mind Mel they have and just the type of guy that can get opened quickly. Make just make everything. Easier. And to me, this is a great move. I moved into a time where you need four wide receivers you need five or six defensive backs. And so to your point they're going to get paid that way. It'll return value. You know, I think a lot of name a lot of things with developing quarterbacks looked at what happened with Jared Goff months. Cooper Cup went down safety blanket there slot receiver. And now, you know, if you're saying darnold, that's a great thing to have Jamison Crowder. Crowder, Robbie Anderson cuisine. Wa and Chris Herndon at tight end. Ed, La Belle and continue to improve the line. We're we're cooking a little bit plays out. Florida's Ken Brown behind the glass today. Filling in for Erica who took a hilariously mistimed vacation. Let's just let's keep it out honest. The fact that we like Erica so much Ricky Hollywood really shields. A fact that with in other in our past other producers, we probably be about this that she's going across Europe. Having a great time. What I admire letter up the hawks he's digging in on the fact that she could care less about the free agency or most off sees right off calendar NFL events, she she openly just asked what free agency was less. She does it with with panache. You're right, though, it does fit into the near like it's not surprising that she didn't know which week free agency was and maker vacation the she's the only daughter daddy's little girl who gets away with murder. That's that's what's going on with the situation right now. She goes across Europe, Ken Brown, filming behind the glass. Can't thank you first of all for being here. Yeah. Of course, it's a lot of fun. I'm happy to fill in free agency frenzy and talk a little Tonio Brown, leaving the Ted's more like Kenmore like the sun that gets blamed for everything even if. Oh, yeah. Because I'm the middle child. I had an identical twin was eight minutes younger than me. And he might as well been twenty years younger than me. But well, listen, we love you can thank you for being here. Be ready. There's of you with breaking news drop because as the show goes along things can happen because. Yes, while free agency starts officially at Wednesday Wednesday at four pm eastern. I believe it is. Yes, right. I mean, who cares? What that that's when the deal that's the new league year when it begins, but regency for all intents and purposes happening right now, as you just saw I reminded of that, by the way, the Carmine just a quick point that that the Broncos and the ravens were afraid to talk about the Joe flacco trait because actually trades aren't even allowed to happen until when that's such like under the radar thing. And I applaud the NFL for not carrying about it. But just change the rules, aren't we? We're probably a year away from all of these bizarre, soft rules, just just vanishing note. I'm not hearing start time complains about. Anymore? I haven't heard and I was a little out of pocket this past week with the fan. But what I haven't heard a lot of from today what watching NFL network and on Twitter and all that haven't heard a lot of legal tampering period. I think we're we're as a society and the NFL to the shields credit is like, let's just keep it real here. The free agency is on right now. It's just like if you woke up on Christmas morning, if you celebrate Christmas and your kids had been up all night opening all the gifts before the so-called official start time when mom and dad Rick forget about it. Open them up start playing so bunch of stuff has happened over the over the weekend and today, and we're going to talk about it. But we have to hit out the window the toy pass on December. I don't like this one. Okay Antonio Brown. We gotta talk about it because it went down over the weekend. Finally, and it was the team that we were told early last week about the the one horse race. The Oakland Raiders were gonna get into Neo Brandon. The of course, the bills report that turned out to be not come through and the. And an Tonio Brown was not going to Buffalo Bills while he goes to the Oakland Raiders. And it comes on a great bargain for Jon Gruden and Mike Mayock and company. One of the best receivers in the league goes to Oakland in exchange for a third round pick and fifth round pick in next month's draft and Brown then turns around and gets that contract that he wanted. The man is getting everything he wanted. He gets a three year deal worth fifty point one million Max's out just under fifty five roughly twelve million more than his old contract. Thirty million guaranteed. Greg wrote about this on the dot com. And your lead. Nice way to get into the piece. I enjoy it as a reader of sports content. It worked I mean. And then everything in Tonio Brown did whether you like it or not and who would really like just enjoy everything on since December. Ultimately, he believed he had the leverage to get out of Pittsburgh and to get more money. And I'm a little surprised that he was able to pull it all off. And it shows how desperate the Steelers were to get rid of him that they took virtually nothing in return. I mean, third fifth round pick is fine. But that's. Third round pick for you love that's twenty five cents on the dollar for a guy this ability. It is and and Brown gets gets the money that he wants. I mean, he was probably one of the best values in the league for much of his career. And now he has made sure to earn to maximize earnings because he also got paid about eighteen nineteen million a year over the last two years. I don't know if I'd say this if he had gone to say, Tennessee or something, but it was a move that the minute it became Oakland's new player that immediately shifted for me, the where we are with a couple of NFL franchises those that didn't go get in Tonio Brown. The raiders who I mean were essentially in many ways last year the most disappointing team in the league for all the hype and hoopla all last off season about group in the way that they tore the roster down. And now that the way they're building up. The the raiders are interesting again, I guess I find myself being tired on the quickly. But if they go out, and they make a play for Levy on bell or whoever else it is. Like, this was the aggressive signpost of how they're going to try to team build with Gruden veterans and big pricey pieces. I don't I don't see anything resembling a plan there, unless it's okay. Last year we were too far away to worry about building a team. Now, we're close to moving Vegas. So he wants names and headlines on our team. I don't I don't think there is like an overarching plan. It's just reacting to whatever happens in the moment. And what we can talk about Trent Brown in a minute. But the fact that the draft to tackles with their first three picks of the John grew Nara, and then they pay a huge amount of money to Trent Brown tells me they're just kind of reacting now when you look at the Amari Cooper and Tonio Brown deal separately in even Khalil Mack. They're all very different. I mean this in Tony Brown is is short term money. I would I would personally rather have in Tonio Brown by a decent amount. Compared to Mari Cooper over the next couple of years, and I would not necessarily be comfortable giving a huge long. Term contract to Amari Cooper. And you got a first round pick in the deal. So if you're just looking at what they didn't terms of the wide receiver position. I love it. Because I I agree that maybe the plan isn't like crystal clear, but they the other thing could have happened. It could have been fleeced in this trade in the they absolutely got him for less than most people would have predicted but salary cap space and cash is valuable valuables draft picks. So they didn't give up the draft picks. But they're giving up a ton of cash and Antonio Brown did not get everything he wanted. He wanted to play for a Super Bowl contender. And he's joining the worst team in the AFC along with the jets over last you just get the sense that that was not that was lower on his priority. But it's not everything he wanted right? Did wanna play for a contender? Now. He's playing for a team. That's not really relevant. I see a little bit more vision to the group and move in the sense that I think he got there and his number first objective was the tear it all down strip down for parts. Because a lot of these guys Parcells was another guy, if you're at a certain level, the ego, whatever or the PASOK sess you. Wanted to make it your team this. I am going to build this thing from the ground up and anything I inherit doesn't mean you stay even guys greatest Khalil Mack. I mean, that's what group that makes sense. I mean, just because you didn't drink Khalil Mack doesn't mean that he's not one of the players on defense. Oh, I'm not saying that was the right move. But I'm saying he's entitled to that. And when he gets the ten year deal, that's the organization making the commitment to you do what you want to make us a contender. And I think you know, we'll bring up that Trent Brown just got one of the biggest contracts ever to play left tackle for the raiders leaving the patriots after one good season. I don't think that's a good signing. But it's a it's a sign that he's looking now to build this team in his vision. And we'll see how it works out. I'm interested to see how I wonder if crude into because I again, go back to the common. He just seemed like a different Jon Gruden to me. And I wonder if last year took a bigger toll or if it was going to be a two or three year tear down the PR hit was far greater than it would have been twenty years ago. When there's just less media coverage of the NFL in general, and maybe whatever the plan was shifted midstream. Well, and it'd been awhile since he had lost games as a coach and he hadn't been through a season. Like that ever is that safe to say and going through a miserable season. Like that is going to change. How you think and in the key thing to me is in Tony around is awesome. Matt Harmon was I think he's still raiders are paying big money for his decline face there. It's really a two year contract the third year. They'll decide when when they get there, and he's paying they're paying a lot. They're paying what the chiefs they're paying a free their pain as if he was a free agent, which is seems kind of unnecessary. But it's also a three four million dollar raise than what he was getting. But they're paying them what Sammy Watkins got last year. I mean, let's not get carried away. It's just sort of like a mid it's a free agent wide receiver pay if you look at Harman's reception perception, our old friend he had in Tonio Brown getting open on a higher percentage of. Of snaps than basically any receiver in the league still last year in that over the last four years his numbers are actually better than any wide receiver. And I think when you watched Brown last year and the attention that he got to me he just looked like peak in Tonio Brown. So I think you're getting a you'd better get another you log twenty three yards per game on his two thousand seven I hear it. I hear you. But the he scored a lot of touch on. He looked great. And he's getting a lot of attention. He still looked like a really really great player to to less quick points for me one. What better way to know for sure whether or not their cars guy than bringing in or you'll be the best receiver in the league. And I think I think that's what we'll see could be surprised maybe Mary ends up being their quarterback in week one or somebody else. But I think maybe grew to now sees if put him with a true number one. What happens also your winters losers one one that I did not see in the winter category, which I think should have been there. The rest of the AFC north including Mars Cleveland Browns, because I'm not saying the Steelers. You know? In there. I'm not saying the Steelers are done. But now, we officially know for sure that that kind of era that book is closed the killer bees. And I don't think the Steelers will be a favorite in that division at this point. Perhaps they win twelve games year. But yeah, I think it's a great news. Great day for the rest of the AFC. I won't question because we heard up until the end of the eagles. The titans jets were put into this mix at one point. We're all in on an Tonio Brown and making some sort of a push for them were they all outbid by this, hyper low offer or did they jump out because for else wanted to pay him with the raiders we're going to pay? I think that's it. I think I'm not I don't like the one thing is this is this is still a great player to me. Or are you just you're saying they're going to get? No, I'm going to have his numbers will be down. I'm saying I find the raiders to be a directionless team organization and you look at team like the patriots. Who are Evansville voice says running laps around the rest of the league, right? They watch the giants. Go out and make Nate solder the highest paid lip tackle in the league. A third round pick. Compensation wise for that trait. A third for Trent Brown fifth round pick move him from right from right tackle to left tackle to fill that hole. Now, they're going to collect a third round pick the raiders make him the highest paid offense of tack on a league annually. They drafted Colt not play lack. Now, they're putting him at right? Tackle right to take the guy who was a career, right? Tackle owned. It be used as a left like, where's the direct jet that the move is to get these guys before their big money. What the patriots do what the raiders do is throw away more money than anybody else in the league at two different player. Bad teams. Get stuck doing that. I hear you. But I just not ready to call this like Antonio Brown's decline phase yet, although as numbers will be vastly down, potentially everything. But basically Jerry Rice in history says that this is I do think we should we should say that the Steelers, however, they handled it they lost. I mean, they've if failed. I mean, Kevin Kolb this whole thing of China set a deadline, and there's all these team. These teams interested. I don't know what the option was because it right in hammer. The Steelers for dealing with a crazy, just and write a precedent? What three players could do this next off season? Yeah. It's unique the Tony Brown situation because there's not many in Tonio Browns. But you're right. Antonio Brown put them in such a tough spot. And I think you're right west. We may never really get the answer. But I think the raiders who apparently offered that third and fifth early in the process, and they just sat on it. And they were willing to pay Tony Brown, but they weren't willing to give up much draft capital. And I think there are other teams like the bills maybe the titans who knows that we're willing to give it more draft picks, but weren't into the money. And when you watch when I watched Rosenhaus is interview on on NFL network with Andrus Ileana. You definitely got the sense that like the raiders were fine changing the money. And I think ultimately it's like Antonio Brown made that happen and the Steelers are losers, and it is Colbert's fall on some level because they are eating twenty one million in dead. Cap money largely because they should have foreseen his wide receiver quitting on his team ahead of time that Colbert's full because he didn't manage the cap well throughout the last three or four years in every year. They have to keep doing these things where they move their base salary into guaranteed bonus for Rothlisberger for a lot of the offense of linemen. And they did that for in Tonio Brown last year, you can play what having foreseen in Tokyo Brown doing this. But I can't blame him for the right now, I'm saying I'm saying most teams are not in such cat problem that they had to guarantee Antonio all this money last year. That's a big reason why because they had to change all of his money around. You're right. They didn't see it coming right now. Like the other option would be to hold them hostage. Even if he's not gonna play not trade him at all. And just keep that was always your careers. That was found out to be phony. He kept saying we'll we'll keep them if we can. And they obviously weren't gonna keep no matter. What was before we move on? You know, what would have helped you'll have a covert? What would have helped him? Hey, we have a team interested willing to give up a third and a fifth and give a thirty million dollar guaranteed contract at me. Oh, I think that I think they essentially had that already GM app removes any question whether or not everyone is plugged in. That's fair moving on, Los Angeles. Rams more. Breaking news more breaking news from Adam Schefter patriots. The end Trey flowers intends to sign with the Detroit Lions in five year deal. Wow. Can't just jumping right in there. Well, Ken Brown. Oh, right now can't typical you will slack me. I did. But you didn't respond. It's. Trump on it. Can't technically channels go up till hours later. But yeah. All right. Thank you very much for that. I love it. Trey flowers does leave England Patriots. I'd we didn't tape the show any early. To go to the lions. Do we have any contract details? There can't at this point two five year deal should be according to wrap sheet more than sixteen or seventeen. Okay. So the lines who really do need to make a splash make a big one and grabbing Greg the best all around player on the patriots defense. Yeah. Once they didn't think it was worth franchise, tag and Trey flowers, I assumed that he was gonna get a deal. Elsewhere. Whether it was in the AFC Easter now, it makes sense patriots midwest in terms of Detroit the lions have already brought in Danny signed Danny amendola. They've already said they're not going to the playoffs that stink Coleman. They've also signed Justin Coleman who's really a sea hawks product because the patriots basically gave him away to the Seahawks. But Patricia knows well after his two years of quiet play in in New England. And then he really played well in Seattle. But this is the biggest move. And it I think it's a good signing. I know west maybe you don't think he's worth that sort of money. But to me, he's like a tie. I have to put the list in front of me. But to me, he's a top ten to twelve you know, def- defensive lineman or fifth top fifteen defensive linemen. And I don't put he's not exactly interior is not exactly in edge rusher. But he's perfect for this type of defense that wants to be able to change what they do week to week. Okay. You wanna to man front one week? You wanna three you wanna four you wanna five trae flowers can do it all I can set the edge. He's smart, and he really does disrupt plays in the middle of his prime. And that's just how much people cost in free agency. If Olympia Vernon was worth seventeen a year three years ago. I think he's a better player than Olympia Vernon which is why you see a lot of bad teams mega moves right now. Because that's when players get extremely overpaid. And how many times that we've seen a coach go to a new spot then way overpaid bring in his guys? Get rid of the last guys guys. And then he's fired within three years, and, you know, Trey flowers, it's really neat. Trey flowers released right? When match Tricia gets fired from the lions, I mean to me, it's a lot like me Jackson. I nobody compared him to Michael Bennett yet. It reminds me a lot of lake Jackson into the Jaguars and the clays Campbell Yanni Gaga. Marcel Darius there to help him out who's helping to a flare-up you got snacks there to Sean hand. It's it's Jackson signing with something. The Jaguars would do over again and flowers the I just got really plays about three hundred four hundred more snaps jazz just to be on the field. I went back and listen to a portion of our I guess, you would call it. The opening free agency bonanza sum up scenario from a couple years ago. And like sorry eighty percent of the people that we talked about are either on their way out or on their all ready gone from the team. So it's there is a lingering buzzkill to all this like manufactured excitement overall signing. I totally agree. And yet, I think flowers is really safe. I just don't like what the worst case scenario to me with him. Is he solid, and he gives you ten to twelve million dollars in value. And yes, you're better off if you're the patriots and you're drafting guys like that. And they certainly had a price for him. And it wasn't this high in that's unfortunate because I loved watching him play. But like he's not going to turn into a bum. He's he's a good player and the flip side to the coach going to from a to b and bringing in his guys is map. Attrition. I like the idea map attrition. Knowing exactly who trae flowers is using the right scheme and putting something a known quality into Detroit's defense, then trae flowers going to group coaches that have never worked with him have no idea and work out about Quinn's since two thousand sixteen. So even though it's only same looking right Email, but not good even though it's Patricia same air Quinn is under some pressure to make some magic. I mean, they paid Ziggy Ansah seventeen million. I'd settle for even vaguely exciting instead of magic. Let's move on so much. Two. The Rams Eric Weddell? They're in business. The Rams agreed to terms at a two year deal with Weddell that is worth up to twelve and a half million Weddell had according to Weddell eleven offers now that list down to five chose the Rams so Weddell the thirty four year old veteran safety who was cut by the ravens last week. Lands with the Rams team with that Super Bowl window wide open. Also staying with the Rams Dante Fowler who came over that midseason trade from the Jaguars made it impact specially down the stretch while he sticks around. He is off the open market and at one year and fourteen million rap sheet reports feels like a pretty good deal for the Rams who don't have to make a big commitment really to either player and have two pieces in place. Leto got what I've never seen before the Pailin Johm contract. Every figure in the contract. Reads, the same forwards and backwards Hulu signing bonus. The actual money czar. Have never seen that before. I think the agent did it just to be fun cute cute Fowler. Especially surprised me because the specially edge rusher. And all that I felt he could have gotten a better contract on the open market for me for one year, though. I don't know. Maybe that's that's a lot of bucks for one year. I think that's a usually. I am skeptical when you give teams too much credit for attracting free agents in terms of like how they sold themselves or it's an attractive place to play or the coaching staff. But I would tend to give the Rams staff a little bit of credit that I think they convinced Dante Fowler based on his experience with them. Look how great that just worked out for you for eight or nine weeks. We're gonna pay you what you would have made if not more on an average salary, but we're gonna make you look so great again for another year that you can go be a free agent and make even more money a year from now 'cause I agree with I think he would have done. Guarantees and a long term deal, but the long term potential is maybe even better if he gets paid a lot this year. And then people aren't teams aren't worried that it was just a fluke. I don't think he was gonna make Trey flowers money as a free agent by any means this. I don't know if his agent would would agree with that strategy, necessarily what happens if you tear UCLA early December agreed to the deal. Well, the one thing I like is the ram these feel like more honest contracts to me I can trust that weta will be there for two seasons. And we know foul will be there for one don't don't lace this up with these. You know, these phony four year deals, blah, blah, blah, and they're not they're right. The land deal is already. There's no way he's getting to the end of that six year deal. You see a lot of prove it contracts that are for one year five million. You don't see willing year fourteen million prove exactly that will consume contract almost identical. So they took basically that sue money and gave it to Fowler. Sue wasn't proven everything. He was a three time four time. All pro. He's not he wasn't trying to prove anything. You're right. I think it's. It really is a case of betting on himself. If you're follower. I think it's a belief that he is he must believe that he's going to do even better this season because I'm not sure and wait Billips defense is a good place right here in Los Angeles. Right. He had a he has good contract push. I think after pretty star cross career as any player in recent memory. Don't we should not discount how inviting an alluring it is to be playing for the Rams right now. Yeah. That's what I mean. He probably had an unbelievable time playing for them. He loves it here. The media's here the clubs are here. The fans they had a lobotomy remove the Super Bowl experience from his meme played great though, it's Super Bowl contender. So maybe chill. Wade's not gonna be like having you runnin gases, and that you it's gonna be club club. Wade. Here's another big contract. Quantel exander who? Missed most of last season after suffering torn ACL with the buccaneers the former fourth round pick he'd become important player in that defense. Well, forget about the ACO. You know, forget about everything because the forty Niners say we want this man, and we're going to pay him big money. He signed according to wrap sheet. He's expected to sign excuse me, a four year fifty four million dollar deal with twenty seven million. That's again, the important number in guarantees a big payday west for the twenty four year old thirteen and a half million average tops, Luke Keithly this crazy money. This is crazy money and it's all because the forty Niners drafted the wrong guy Reuben foster their linebacker core is depleted they needed desperately to pay for linebackers. They get a guy who's a bit bit like Alec Ogle Trie physical athletic makes big plays. But also misses a lot of tackles is not always wear. He needs to be. And I would question outside of picking up the phone when Bill Belichick wanted to unload Jimmy Garoppolo on Kyle Shanahan. What has John Lynch done? Well in San Francisco. I agree with you, including the Malcolm Smith signing two years ago, which is another linebacker. He is your McKinnon. He's going to stay. There was bad luck. But it was a curious signing Malcolm's with is going to stay on a pay cut Quantocks coming off a tornado C L. I always I've been thinking for a few years that there's a there's a market there for value in terms of guys coming off tornado sales or big injuries that the almost seem to get undervalued sometimes it's free agents. But maybe that's out the window because I mean, he's four he supposedly three four five months from football activities. He might not be you know, hopefully is ready for the start of the season. But he was an up and down player who made a lot of big plays. But I think bucks fans would tell you. He was so aggressive. He gave up a lot of big you almost have to look at that front office and say they've gotten lucky in one sense where the late season trade two seasons ago for Jimmy G. Brought so much optimism that you you covered all the sins that in the rest of the team building. And then the early. Season injury Jimmy G last year, gave everyone this mulligan. Like, well, of course, we are seeing the real Niners without Jeremy kinik. Now this time around you can't go six and ten without some heads this. We're taping. It pretty soon after it was first reported. I would be curious to see the guarantee guaranteed money. There's some there. Now, the insiders they're getting smart, Dan, we've been getting on them for like sane guaranteed on this show guaranteed. Money's not really guaranteed. Now, he apparently has twenty seven million dollars in rolling guarantees, and what's rolling Garin, whatever that means. So maybe it's like a one year contract for all we really know at this point. Let's move on a trade. Trade trade Sonam e it's coming. It's been here. It's been here. It is trade trade to NAMI talked about the raiders earlier. They also made a meal made a deal this weekend. Sending Coletta of similarly the left guard two time pro bowler who suffered a down season a twenty eighteen so Gruden ships out of town along with a six round pick to the jets who get offense of line help, which they need. It's a twenty nine year old player who if he stays healthy if he's in good shape and all that represents a huge upgrade for the jets in the middle of their line. And like I talked about this last week as important as bringing somebody Levy on bell is fixing that line in front of darnold is equally important. And I think this is a good step in that direction. Your thoughts Schulman and seems to me that the raiders who they're all reports from me as. Peon specifically that they are cash poor after pain-free Antonio Brown and Trent Brown so Trent Brown like deferred most of his big money into the second year after they get to Vegas in theory because there's no income tax there. But maybe it's you know, helping the jets build their offense of line because they can't afford Colletti assembly. I'm sure they also think that assembly in declined from where they signed him three years ago. Yeah. He was one of those guys that Mark if I think if you listen to the show three years ago, we would have been talking up off the top. He was a top five free agent their whole on and he was on the potential cuts list because may I especially after at the combine maniac kind of set assembly thought was up and down year ago, which was maybe telegraphing it, but for the jets, it seems like a very I mean at worst. He's a competent starting guard, which is better than Jacob carpenter possible. The get these veteran pick swap deals are like, you know, the new moneyball and Matt Paradis is the big center on the market. Report out there that it's between the jets and the bills in terms of the fight to get Paradis. And that would be a nice upgrade to the middle that line. So we'll see how it all plays out. Another trade the patriots in business. They acquire Michael Bennett and at twenty twenty seventh round pick from the eagles in exchange for a twenty twenty fifth round pick Bennett we'd heard he was of his salary was a little bit restricting for the eagles. They were going to potential release them. Instead, they move them in a deal Bennett. Mark still even at age thirty three makes an impact on a defensive made the rate the patriots a little bit better. It sounds like I mean, I guess to West Point you look at this. Michael Bennett guy who systematically knows he's going to play into January every year. He's in the NFL. He's proven he can do it. And you're not one of these teams blowing the Bank for someone coming off a big season. He fits with the patriots, and I sort of over doubting anything they do at this point until they prove that they can't operate a football team better than anyone else in the league. Michael Bennett, you've already you already had the other Brennan brother there, why not just go full house Martell. Wants to come back. Now Martell says he wants to play again, I have a feeling the patriots. If we need that aren't gonna go along with that. I think they'd feel one Bennett is enough. I think people have been waiting for Michael Bennett to fall off. And it hasn't really happened. I mean, he's still very solid starter if not better at a cheap price, but the eagles to the credit. I think they think a little more like some baseball teams. Do they looked at me Jackson out there and thought well, we'd rather have me Jackson for a few extra million dollars more than Michael Bennett? And we'll just we'll just move on from Michael Bennett expected to sign a three or thirty million dollar deal. According to wrap sheet me Jackson, how about west pointing out that that trait flowers was the Michael Bennett of the patriots defense last week. And I think the patriots were listening. They were just like, let's get the original for way cheaper. There have been post released whispers in Seattle in Philadelphia that Michael Bennett cares about rushing the passer to the extent that he no longer plays. Great run defense. Now, I don't think PF Fs grades reply. That. But both of those teams apparently thought that the patriots do need an edge rusher. And he does play sort of the same position trae flowers where you can go inside or out any we sold down the stretch last year. He can definitely still get to the quarter never stops playing. He plays. He plays a lot of snaps, and they they're going to need some talent on the defensive line is not a good defensive line without without Trey flowers there. It also might be a guy he's been in the NFL longtime. I mean, you don't want to cast aspersions, or you know, it might just be like after a year of Michael Bennett, just been like, okay? That was that was good. But maybe that's get a ring and get out. Let's move on Greg this this. You're patriots fan of McGee. You've recently noted that you're not really a patriots fan anymore, and you're just waiting for. That's that's been blown out of poets portion. It's actually not been focused on enough. But I I raised the possibility would've loved we talked about that wouldn't Bella check retires at my really going to be I have L checks out outcry decided I'm just saying like, I ain't gonna feel. No, I'm I'm talking through it on the podcast. All right. But yeah, I am is it is it possible that I'm not going to be mostly invest. I mean the dolphins as emotionally invested after Don Shula. Probably not. You gotta you gotta watch few assumptions being thrown. You gotta watch Cam Cameron running the show and be like, oh, Yep. I'm just as into it cannery. How it feels seems like a pretty diehard dolphins fan all through the bad year. I have thoughts on that. Therion I share it's not cutting or anything. But it's my opinion that you've enjoyed this amazing run with the patriots the team that you grew up following. And you've had this Brady Bill check ride. But also now listen, you're getting a little bit older, you're making waves and NFL media. Maybe you don't want to tach to a team a fan anymore. So this gives you in your mind, this could be my clean out. So no longer will. I be a fan of a team. I could be Greg Rosenthal. NFL insider, I know I don't want to be an insider, I'm a fan of a lot of teams. And I think the patriots no matter what will always be one eight. And you guys seem to be confused when I'm like rooting for other teams. I that was a Springsteen. Ian, I don't think he's right intro right there. But it's true, though, anything it's phony. No, I just think it's interesting that the minute. The patriots lose their hall of fame. Coach you're out. You're not. You're not a fan of things. I I kind of given up on other sport. I you're right. There is a point and getting older that I don't like giving up like my emotional wellbeing or stability to anything. Like you also have decided to myself. What do you mean? I mean, try to be a jets fan for twenty years you've essentially just like this magic carpets floating around from season to season every autumn you sort of a thousand feet above everyone else. Trying to convince I may still be a patriots fan, please. That's what gambling was invented. Because as you grow. Older adults have very little reason for a stake in games. Eighteen rain a little there's a little bit of cognitive. It's happened to all my other sports. I mean, I've kind of given up being a real I'm with you there. I grad socks and Celtics fan too. Like, I put a gun to my head watch college Baskin emotionally invested in the Yukon huskies anymore the Springsteen. Ian, trope sports writer trope that you might be drifting toward. Yeah. In your forties is on a road for teams. Root for good stories. I don't. But they all like hate football. I love football more than than I ever have in book part of. I'd love a little less. When like the team you're rooting for is making you miserable. I think we've spent enough time on this topic. The chiefs move on from Justin Houston. This is good. I think I think it's a good one. I think you guys to think about it think miserable. You guys are on Sundays. Maybe you could get that love of the sport. Great. So now after you're saying, I should now jump out when things. With the misery. I have read apostasy with the jets. They they don't ruin my life unless it's like a rare thing like when Ryan Fitzpatrick those three interceptions and week seventeen in buffalo. But usually I have enough distance where they don't destroy my life. I enjoy root for the jets mean Keith we like it my brother, Kevin. It's a family thing it you don't have to it doesn't have to ruin your life or overpower titans distance. That's all by the way. Greg look into your right pocket presence into your pocket to that was like so confused. There's a random slim, Jim like in my zip. I call it. And I was like. That's great. But I totally assumed it was me because I'm someone that's, you know, Caisley at the end of the day, I'll like empty my pockets, and they'll be some strange things a little Nash. No. But they'll stick and you'll be like some strange things that I have no recollection. Taking the. Cut ties Justin Houston, not a huge surprise this happened on Sunday the net. It's a natural. I mean, it's an old Wisconsin the knockoff slim. Yeah. That's the real deal. He's not the real do Holyfield. Brad VH. You know, the combine did not deny reports that trade could be possible for the veteran linebacker apparently no of suitors found so they decided to cut ties with Justin Houston, west thirty years. Thirty years old still can get to the quarterback, but maybe not at the same level as a few years. Back nine sacks last year had to Saxon. The postseason a guy I feel like should have a market, right? I think he's gonna have a market just not at fifteen million can still get quarterback. Like you said. And I think we've said on this podcast last year. The only two teammates to be in the top ten and pressure percentage or just in Houston Defoe. Lord. He can still get it done. I could see smart team going out and signing him. He I think people anywhere, but Kansas City he'd be seen as one of the best pass rushers of the last five years removed from the twenty two six season of people forget at nine and a half in two thousand seventeen and nine last year in. Games. I mean nine and twelve games. But at ton of a ton of pressure and watt and sets the edge. Does it all really? Well, it's interesting that they're going to move on from their best to defensive lineman. If they do trade deformed, there's some talk that the Packers and the Niners were maybe interested in trading for D Ford. And I think that that would be tried to send them there last week. I mean that would be that would be a fun one could Chris Jones as a one man defensive. He made it into the top ten of our top one one free agents just continuing to be updated. I got the sense living breathing document west gone this weekend. He was in Saint Louis the baby how was the baby shower? It was it was a lot of fun out a shower, it's a little strange wedding shower, but he doing their shower the men not a baby shower going this on our last podcast. My family is also throwing a wedding in Cincinnati next month. And I'm not even allowed to go to that one. Because I'm a guy I'm event party party for the wedding yet. I'm making up a work of that was and that's not your good, man. So you went, but I'm making up actually we have this big podcast meeting. Can't I can't miss too. I can't be at the wedding show. But not getting Lewis. I can't make a new it's a new owners meeting to discuss the twenty twenty two collective bargain, you could say anything and that's perfect. Damn it. All right. Well, let you know how it is. I'll send photos you, please. Do ended up being a good time. Like, it's definitely not my scene. But her friends are very cool. So I brought that up by the way to say, I get the sense. You think Justin Houston? I over rated them a little bit put him on this top. I am a big just in Houston. Okay. Good. Good. Good. Good. I'm or nine same page. Scientists good. Denzel Perryman staying staying in LA the chargers agreed to turn to the linebacker on the two year twelve million dollar extension. Rap sheet reported on Friday second round pick in two thousand fifteen draft. Nice move by your bolts, Greg. Yeah. Like, I mean, west west always points out, and he's right. How they're just they're a bad run defense in general and they're much better. When Denzil Pearman is in the lineup. They also got rid of Jalil die. The chargers are not that far away for. I mean, they shouldn't they were thirteen weaned team. That does not get a lotta respect. I feel like I wanna see them. Make some moves to get excited about this. It's gotta stay healthier though. Yeah. This the ton again, he's an old school. He's a throwback player like a thumper of a linebacker, which you sorta reminds me of Brandon spikes when he played for the patriots. You're only goal is to stop the run. And I might as well just to you up on this one as well, Greg because I know where it's going Sean Lee will stay with the Cowboys. He gets a haircut. So he will make haircut wears it. Go duck shit salary. I think this is a west bit if no no, no, no. Well, what he's a Garrett guy. I mean, you can't get it. Can't they can't quit guys? Get rid of Garrett guy. I mean, I think go ahead claybon claybon. Put it well in on Twitter something to the effect. You know, Jason Witten, Sean Lee making eight million dollars or whatever it is combined this year, but hundreds of million dollars leadership values these guys they could know the biggest problem with this move is that the Cowboys typically play two linebackers on most of their downs, and Jalen Smith, and and vendors are just simply way better than Sean Lee right now, don't depth though. Not not at the depth doesn't play special teams. It's expensive depth because it's a sentimental. There. Can't be any Jerry Jones. Like, oh, we're gonna make sure Sean leads got a big part of this. The is just enough with going to say stuff that's annoying to me, Sean, Lee and I robo team robo back. Get Jay Novacek back in the building turn the page. Cowboys Dez was onto something get back air it guys. Danny playoff him adult. We mentioned that didn't when he signed signed appreciated by deck press guy. Braving the cold in southern California in a desert to watch. Serena Williams Friday night, what a Matt maybe the match of the year. Serena versus sorry as Aranka. He was out there. I you're there. I wasn't. But I was watching on TV at first he was trying to look tough like wearing a tee shirt. And I was like oh, man. It's gotta be. It's gotta be cold there. And he had like a little blanket over later on. He's got a hoodie in a blanket over over salting. Don't try to be to Manley like an FDR blank here. Put a blanket over later. Yes. Wow. I don't want my quarterback weren't enough. The our blanket I feel like it shows weakness that's after trying to be cool. I mean, I keep real here going with their point. What a what a map though, I want I want Sam darnold sitting there in a pair of shorts cut the. Hi, and the nice sleeveless t shirt and just take in the old. Tennis people want to pretend it's not cold in southern California. It's fifty three degrees in windy. That's cold. Well, I mean come on. I saw you wanna be Sam darnold, and like a nice USC flavored romper with some little mittens. Now, you're speaking back to Massachusetts or New York for a winter and see if you think fifty three and windy cold. That's fair. That's bad Damadola reunites with Patricia as well. So patriots midwest is that. I mean, I would rather I'd much rather have Sean Lee for three and a half million then Damadola for four and a half at this stage in his career. I'm a little why do non-playoff teams keep signing. Danny amendola who's usually injured ineffective during the regular season. And only turns into a great player in the believes logical unless you wanna spin him to play off team near the deadline. Nobody wins here. I think it does point out like how difficult it is going to be. I don't know. I don't know. Why say this patriots win the matter what? But like as more and more of their guys go to other places like the dolphins and lions seem like they're gonna compete for every patriots free agent health it I mean, it you don't wanna pay for depth. He's thirty four like spending a lot of money for backups. He's literally never had a season over six hundred sixty yards in his entire career under ten yards per catch. This I think there is a thing. We know this guy is from the whole idea of calling anything anywhere patriots midwest or patriots west or south you better be mimicking even even a bread crumb of the success of the. Gene. We're calling you located somewhere else in the mid west. Yes, I feel like a little we've had this conversation. I think. North overly cute with what what midwest is now? Right under Michigan and growing up in Ohio. We were only reaper did I know geographic Brown. Just got. My said Pittsburgh's the mid west too. I everything consider Pittsburgh way. More mid west there in the east coast. There's a lot of conversation, especially like, yeah. Is Pittsburgh certainly Wesley Youngstown east that just seems like it's become a catchall. Well, no. So there's a country flyover country it extends spec extents far west of Michigan in east Michigan. The midwest sort of begins with Ohio and Michigan. I know Pittsburgh's on the west side of the state, right? But the east side of the state is damn near the Atlantic Ocean. But here's a long state not included in this map, by the way. It's way more destroyed. Cincinnati. Getting the. Midwest my friends came back from college and on talking they start off they like NASCAR. Suddenly, so that's you know, but I never got because we draw lines to make states doesn't mean that everybody in those lines acts like the rest of the siesta does. All right now, Mark has a map up here. And this is now. Okay. Name these states by well, this is not good audio. So the so Pennsylvania, according to this map is not the mid west. Thank god. But Ohio is okay. Let's well, I think Pittsburgh much more DNA with high. Does she go Adelphia? Yes. For sure. Glad we figured that out. Finally, pro cut Pennsylvania down the middle. I think that we pay too much attention to borders, which big statement there the lions agreed to terms that we mentioned this Justin Coleman. We did. We didn't good highest pay nickel back in the NFL. This is the year that nickel players. Start getting paid slot receivers. And slap corners are getting paid like wide receiver. Twos and cornerback twos. Is this the year that nickel back? The band gets the respect that they've cravenly their entire careers. I'm gonna go with no Ken Brown. The greatest rock artist of all time is rock artists. Mick jagger. Okay. Okay. That's a safe answer. Rolling stones. As the band. But yes, okay. I'll give you Jagger unless your solo stuff. I'm just saying you said artists, I didn't wanna say so I went with the best. I mean, I would maybe go with someone that like played music as Mick Jagger is part of his arsenal. Mick Jagger from Kent England there you don't you dare say Ken Brown is not bringing the heat to the around the NFL podcast. Did we say Jason Peters is back to eagles on your deal? We did not did not. So that's all Famer hanging around. That's big useful. They figured it out. Not Jason Peters anymore, but he can still there was some doubt about that one. And they figured it out. He's way better than vita. Right. I mean, he it's funny to think about because like how much better is he then Trent Brown right now. He's so much better than Trent Brown, and he's so much less expensive, Greg. I will honestly you're going to be surprised by this. But I will support you if you attempt to distance yourself from the throne of sleaze, it's just more intellectual. Gotta promise me about that. I'll never. Let's say twenty years down the line. Maybe we're all different parts of the country. And they were all together. Who knows that? I've not listened to an interviewer a podcast with you as the guest, and you someone asks you, well what what do you root for who? Do you root for Greg from New England? I root for good stories. Just promise me ever say, it's fine. You would never listen to that to that podcast. I mean, that's mayor. But I won't say that and this whole time I've said they'd be one A it just be a little different it just going to be different there. One. A it's like I was there at the at the old World Series last year written on the Red Sox. Am I living in dine emotionally like I used to know because you're not putting in the sweat equity of watching them. Every time doesn't mean you're rooting against them. You got your family? You got every day. Deidra stop. And a lot of nice words. Just something about it feels wrong to me. But I'll also do the work to try to figure out what on earth, you're doing. I am worried. You know, you never wanna like if you have something that you do you don't wanna just do it. But worse at any point and the patriots, whatever they're being a fan of them. It's going to be going to do it. But worse retroactively it would. We don't have time. We don't have retroactively might affect not that matters to you. Just like you're saying, I wouldn't listen your podcast. It doesn't matter to you. What do I think of you as a fan? But I would think somebody that quit on the team as soon as they weren't good anymore. It's like a bulls fan getting out on Chicago after Jordan retired. I would think oh you're never fan to start with. Well, I think that's fair in Greg's defense. So I've considered myself a San Antonio Spurs fan from the moment, they drafted Tim Duncan and as much as I want the love to be there. Still now, the Dunkin Kawhi Leonard or gone. It's just like, okay. What am I really to the list? Of course, be rooting for them. And especially if we're still doing this podcast when Bella check leaves. You know, outlive this podcast. I'll be rooting for him. But in your heart is it gonna mean as much now, I'm just being honest, probably not my still Knicks fan of a haven't watched an game in ten years. I don't think anybody's doing. It's also more like what do you want out of out of being a sports fan? It's like if you've everything you want. If you've gotten the best there could ever be. It's like again, you're asking surrounding morally are really nice PR job. But I think more where some of us are getting to is your from another angle is soon as it becomes a struggle. I'm out you want the ease. And the joy, I know. That's not what you're saying. Because you're talking about is an intellectual curious exercise, but but on the surface level from another angle when this isn't like pleasurable to me, I'm not going to ride with this entity whether team or something else the tough times to is better not bleed over into the what you do other things. That's all this is exactly what was talking about the other day when there's. Inverse relationship between toughness and quality of life. You don't want to endure the bad times. And that doesn't mean that means you're not going to be tough. I'm more open minded on this. But they're making great points. You have to say the kissing cousin, sir. Sometimes you have to endure the bad times. I think it's more just getting old. And like wonder, you know, when you go down to those super Super Bowls have changed that a little bit for being there in person like going down to the locker room like when they've won and loss or whatever. And it's just like, oh here all these guys. But it's like there's not really any difference between the patriots guys. And the Rams guys are the eagles guys. And it's like, the they're all these millionaire athletes that wear this uniform for a short time, and they're just don't really have just laundry. And then you're just like, okay. Well, it's a little different. I know what you're talking about the toughness the battle the Yankees head like three eighty five win Susan's at a row man earlier this decade, and it you stuck with that. But where you as into them though seasons. I was that's why again, but I love the Ke's as much probably more now than I did ten years ago. Just because they were released from anything NFL really related. That's part of it too. Is we do this for our jobs absolutely agree with that? All right. Good talk big week coming up. So we're gonna have a show an NFL dot com. Free agency. The name of the program free to see live frenzy. Now, I think they dropped we're not included with. Frenzy for the most part free agency live is the okay. So we're we're doing a show today. Is that correct? It already of air by the time, but it will be on NFL dot com afterwards. Yes, we we're doing to NFL dot com. Video shows, and and you could get the links from our Twitter pages or hopefully, the around the NFL Twitter handle, but this podcast. If you're if you're all about purity, I just listened to the pot, then we don't judge you. You gotta show Tuesday Wednesday when the official league year begins the new league year begins and then Thursday, we should have shows. Well, so a lot of content coming your way. In addition to our Wednesday Twitter show, we are productive. That's it. Was that hands of signing off for quiet storm? The moment the boss can't turn out coming in with the breaking news. First everything we loved. See tomorrow. Bill tuesday.

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Don't Hate

The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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Don't Hate

"Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the right time. My name is Bomani Jones. Thanks for listening on the ESPN app. Pike as wherever goodbye gas. We appreciate it. Right. As review give us five stars. Only goes four stars. I'm inclined to think you are hater coming up on this episode. Wow. They didn't Tonio Brown trade actually happened. Apparently black people like Duke in public now who knew but I. I don't even like exactly know how this happened. I actually was watching the thunder in the jazz for as long as I stay awake. Last night. I watched some of the second quarter. I even got after halftime I got to some of the third quarter. I don't know win. Exactly this thing. Russell Westbrook happened. But I guess if it was a thing that you would just judge strictly from watching the game. You wouldn't you wouldn't have seen because this became a bit of internet nominee. But anyway, Rosa was rookies told before about the way to fans in Utah treat him, and he says that it has very much to do with raise. And he's not the only person who was made some stay miss about playing Utah anyway, Russ Gada until some do they got them all camera. And he tells them dude, they you going to believe him up and that he's going to believe his wife up to. I magic this cause in internet firestorm. I did not witness the internet firestorm in real time. Because I just woke up in the morning, and I happened to work on a podcast and TV show. And so two stuff came up and people would bring it in my direction. I honestly am a bit surprised that this became a bit of a firestorm because NBA players threatening to bleep up fans really doesn't register with me because it happens fairly often. And it might not be sort of situation that happens like every game. But this is so much rare. Like, I think of the guys that I've seen have some sort of threatening type of interaction with a fan of Isaiah Thomas a couple years ago in the play offs stills. Dude, I will bleep you up, and you know that. By the way. I think that he was too for two. I think he was correct on both counts. If I had to guess, I went to a playoff game last year in Philadelphia Pablo went to a Celtics. Sixers gay Greg Monroe, Greg Monroe. He like the jolly green giant, right? No man, Greg. When row has dude he was invited to come down. So it he scrap it out with him. Like, yeah. No, no players being ready to fight fans, or at least making it clear to fans that if they want to fight it's an option. Yeah. I don't think I didn't really get it for me. I've I'm assuming here that the part that guy people was the fact rust said, I'll believe your wife up to. Okay. I can understand why that would make you stop. I'd honestly do not take that. As literally as other people did. But I also understand why it is in this day in time that you might not wanna give somebody too much room for interpretation such matter. Now, if you are sincerely making that argument, our which you, but you can't fool me. I know a bath argument when I hear what like it is eight actually did you believe what you're really concerned that I'm gonna look at you such. But in the end, I guess we come back to the basic age old question of like what should players have to put up with off fans and well. It's an interesting question. We'll get into that. I want to start though. But when you hear what Russell Westbrook had to say after the game about saying he would believe that dude up and his wife to the rules. How started young young man whose wife into stains told me to get on Mondays like he used to for me? That's just completed disrespectful to me. Racial things. Just inappropriate innocence. There's no protection for the players. Figure veer great fans and run award. I'd like to come to the game. Enjoy the game. There are people that come to the game to say mean disrespecting about me family. Community years doing all the right things. I've never done anything to her harm anybody on never been insurable whenever four fan. Been le- let me years closely. Humble, take whatever all the criticism from everybody had been doing the same thing for years for me dishes. Bed would not be taken from me on my arm completely just sit back sometime and just take it like one video but the whole game since then here, especially here in Utah. Come here's disrespectful things. I said from me, I'm not going to continue to take dishes for my family. I just think that got to be something done. It's going to be some classes for those type of people on the come to the game just to say, and do whatever they want to say. And I don't think it's fair to the players not just to meet on the players if I had to do it over again, I would say the same exact thing because I truly stand up for myself for my family for my kids. So why for my mom for my dad every single time? I spent anybody else to do the same on. So that's kind of where I met with the host. As for. His wife. I I've never put my hand on the woman. I never will never been any domestic violence before never had before. But once he said to come in his wife repeated the same thing to me is well, so. Kind of how you guys got into video. But started a video is way, more important and more disrespectful. Didn't what you guys disrespect will. Now be tolerated. I feel like he could sum that all up basically with that one right there disrespect will not be tolerated. Raza, west strikes me as a man of principle in that way. That's how we wind up here. I also then from hearing from him, I think they gives a bit of an explanation as to why it is that he said he would leave the dude's wife to he was not simply saying he would leap up the whole row of Airlie. She also got involved in the act now the way they're Russ characterize it in the whole get on your knees. Like, you used to at first I thought that this was actually more of a homophobic reference, then a racist one from what I read in hearing how Russ put on like, okay? Like you used to by the way, that doesn't even really make any sense. Like win win win. Was it that we was doing this getting on our knees thing that this gentleman talks about the Kuttan wasn't going to pick itself guy? Like if you go if you take it back to that. No, no. No. No. No. No, no. That's not that apparently wasn't how we were getting down. They would they would know it wouldn't get on you knees breaks. Nope. Nope. That wouldn't happen. There was actually probably a lot of hard work that was taking place. You know? Maybe I'm crazy. But anyway, there's that. I'm just really not here for fans being able to say, whatever the hell they want to people. That's like win these sorts of things happen or win. They come up. I am like almost always going to lean on the side of the player. Just because I noted while stuff that people say and the weight on folks react when they say is wild stuff as somebody gets up in they grill about it. They know they not right for that. But we encourage this in a lot of wave, right? Like, we take boorish behavior and call it passionate. When people get out here and act out of hand, we act like that's the sign that there's something good about you think about all the places that are known for having so called great fans. How many of those places are also Nova there fans being utterly ridiculous. Philadelphia's the great example, right and that saying that all y'all behave badly, but the image of your passion is one that behaves badly in the passion is treated as noble, and like this other part is almost like the exhaust. Like, you just gotta have is in order to make the engine run. By this is the way that these things are being seen. Now what I think is interesting about this is that this is happening Utah and Russell midge in Utah before in other players have mentioned Utah before as a place where they feel they take and uncommon level of abuse. And so to me, I feel like you should probably be asking more questions in this situation about Utah and the arena, then you should be asking questions about Russell Westbrook that being said I personally which strongly recommend. Not saying you're going to bleep up his wife too. Like, yeah. I can kind of see high goes gets all caught up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you buddy. That when right. There's probably one that you should not ro. I do. However have this question gave except ask you this. Right. Fez. Did you see the interview with the fan that the TV station did after the gang? I did did that man sound like someone who's wife had been threatened. Not exactly right. And I'm not saying why didn't get threatened because obviously there was video of this fact, I'm just saying that man on some level knew he was wrong. At least that's the read. I get off him. And the reason that I say that is he wasn't up there with none of that bravado. Like, we said that about my wife, you'll you'll go on memo. You know, I'm gonna go handle that now that's not what he said. He was like, well, I told my wife. Oh, that's that's the NBA welcomed his first game. Welcome to the NBA, Brooke. And you can you imagine that somebody like threaten your wife and over Eason that's going to be over sponsor, Honey, that's just what they do in the NBA. Be doing that. That was right. That do was backtrack after that happened. And it reached me like you knew that he was online. I think that anybody here me and known is right now, you can see why it is that I would draw that conclusion you can go find video that man man, but talking to the TV station, the TV station absolutely wants to have his side for every reason when you gotta remember about this in the way that this is going to be covered. And I'm curious to see like what the public commentary is going to be about this. If you watch the footage that fight in Auburn Hills in a believe, it was December two thousand four or November one of the two eight way if you go look at that footage of that fight and the commentary that took place after it. It was decided Lee and tie fans in that building. It was very much chastising the people who who were in the arena who started with the players don't want to be around and everything else. That was the spin you read this book, the ESPN book Jamila did the oil history things called those guys have all the fun as I'm like that. You can go read that decision was made shortly thereafter that we are not about to come out here and lecture the fans put it. We ain't never gonna make no money like that. That's ridiculous that call was made right then and there and the tenor of the discussion around that whole moment change isn't aimlessly 'cause I call been made you a not going to get very far out here. Lecturing fans on their behavior is not gonna happen. Klay Thompson when he did say the other day, right? He's about the fans you need them to be into the game to man ain't never been one person ever get up. No press conference talking about we need fans to be more in the game. They kind of let us down in the fans be like. All right, cool. We'll show you next time. Hundred works is that what it does. Right. Definitely don't get too far telling the fans that they deserve to get beat up. Apparently like, they did it fell Auburn Hills. Right. So this can be a tricky to reign as an industry for people to deal with. But in the end, man, the conclusion reached on that stuff was basically this. It doesn't matter. Somebody deserves for you to go punch men phase punching a minute phase just against the rules in. There's no discussion to be had after the fact. Did you know that's other goes Roseanne, go push them in face. No roseanne. Go approach that man. Nope. Don't know what net. Eight is gave them a lot of real tough talk. That apparently seem to register. I am personally down to call bygones right in there down to go to Gaul bygones. You know, why import down to call bygones, Gabe. I gotta feeling this man. They never gonna tell nobody like that the Rena ever again India here scrubbing is a his Twitter account. He take the whole damn thing. Now. All kind of conflicting reports on Twitter versus him, deleting his Twitter account versus him deleting all of his tweets guys, you know, he instantly went to try to take care this like he he did not behave. Like a man who believes it was all worth it. You know? I I think the smartest thing that bad. Could have done was not do that interview that TV give people in trouble bore you still walking to people? Hey, you wanna be on TV? I love to be on TV. What does man have to gain for being TV nothing at all? There's another good that could possibly happen to him from going on TV, right? Fact, how long is go fund me? How long have we go from me up? Go fund me for what? Oh, people cookies. That's why his thing. I don't think he go lose his job behind this. But you know, people whose jobs behind things like this right here talking about you. Don't you get back on your knees? Like, you like you used to you know, if that's what he said. I mean, that's what Russ heard or as believes her. If that's what he said, you know row Elving, Utah you necessarily lose your job at her own boss. Check that out. It'd be like man, we gotta we gotta get you pay. And then you put up to me and suddenly losing thirty eight thousand dollars your job, you know, made a quarter million dollars. Matto mata-. But he he probably didn't have to do. None of this going through his tweets another nails. If he doesn't go do that interview. 'cause correct me if I'm wrong Gabe there be any other way for anybody who the person was. Oh, no. I mean that would have been like you would have had to do some pretty lake. Thorough thing to get this guy's name like through ticket stubs, and all that sort of stuff that would have required a lot way more sleuthing then a league past game was going to get right is Thursday game of the week on TNT. Right. This is our channel like fifteen thirty nine or whatever it is. You didn't have to do that. But if people came up their TV Keira, and I don't know about you gate, but me personally, and I'm not married, you're married, and maybe maybe I'll see the world differently, right? But I would not be in a hurry to get on television until the world about how I got punt in front of my Queen. I don't feel like that's not the brag about you. No. And the thing is too is like, you know, Russ was arguing with a number of fans. Yeah. So for him to come out and like have his statement. It's like, no he was arguing with me. Yes. It's like, I probably would have just taken a back seat to that. And been like wasn't me. Now man who knows it might treat them like a hero. I had crib. I got no idea. But I don't even if you think rush shouldn't have threatened to bleep up him and his wife. There is no behavioral and this man side to condone. You know, a lot. He did a lot of heated that he did not sound like a man that was proud of what he is doing right. It wasn't quite like that. You remember when Marcus smart up in ground to do when he was in college. And that dude you look at him the whole way he was like I deserve that. It was written all over his face. I deserve. He ain't will call for no security today. He set there by himself embarrassed. 'cause he was went to four when too far. And I think there's a little bit of it with this, man. But otherwise like, it's an interesting altar. But is it another in their marriage? No punishment. They shouldn't be no thing. That's going to dominate the news cycle full couple days and anybody that tells you that it is honestly is somebody acting in bad faith. Don't let a run the okeydoke on you, baby. I would just try to like stick to where the jobs are do you feel like there will be or should there be any sorts of changes in the future? In terms of how close the fans are to the players. When it comes to NBA games. Because if you think about it like MLB NFL soccer like the fans are not that close to the players. Yeah. They still be saying stuff though. Right. Like, that's the the problem to me is less the proximity of the fans in more of the behavior of the fans. And by the way, if you say a wild enough thing how close you are don't matter. They'll come get you. But I know like we don't need to make this about arena, we need to make this about what it is. Which is the level of entitlement that people believe that they should they have because they purchase a ticket. And they are they are they are treated by people in my industry and everything else as though that being a fan part of being a fan is being ridiculous in. No, it doesn't have to be that way. And that stuff is to have to stop. And the problem at the players have in. This is in our natural lives, where we all on a daily basis the thing that stops people from saying crazy stuff is no that somebody might come beat you up. My whether you think violence is appropriate or not that is the constraint daas people from saying, whatever they want is believed that somebody might come put their hands on you. That is a governing dynamic in this you take that away in the arena. And so how do you get these people to stop the players? Go have to point out to security all these people like is that what is gonna take? But I mean Nviend the fact is that the way we handle this normally is not the way that you can handle it in that setting. And therefore these people who buy tickets ole ole customer's always right type suckers gonna keep on acting life foods chill, somebody check him. And then they're going to get on TV trying to victims. It will be bad to talk about Antonio Brown in just a second. But first, Robin Hood is in investing after let you buy and sell stocks ETF's options and cryptos all commission free. While other brokerages charge up to ten dollars for every trade. Robinhood doesn't charge commission fees. 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May while in Tonio Brown goes to the raiders and gets the money guaranteed. As money was not guaranteed and got off of a teen. Then he didn't wanna play for anymore. And by the way, it should be noted. Didn't just get off a team that he didn't wanna play for anymore. Got a teen that didn't really seem to want him to play for them anymore. There's also that part. And I think the fact that the Steelers didn't want him to be there anymore. I feel like that point is really made enough in driving. How this happened because people keep talking about how Antonio Brown has kind of shake in the structure of the NFL because he managed to work out this trade he managed dude as he managed to do that. And I'm like, I hear you. But here's where I'm not like totally sold on his idea. Significant variable on why Brown was able to do this the way he did was that the Steelers were so tired of him. Like if they had to be sick of him to be willing to take the cap it to get him out of there. Because look in the end, this is football, man. They can just keep them like they always had the option railing. No, you're not going anywhere. Let's see if you're actually willing to miss some paychecks. Let's see if you're willing you crazy football maniac. Right. Let us see if you are willing to miss paychecks and to miss playing football. Which is the one reason that they kept him around as long as they did is because of his outright, dedication, and love of playing football. They had that option. No, man. They're like, Nope. Nope. Nope. Got end has got here right now. My Florio profootballtalk has hypothesized that maybe just maybe this result of somebody perhaps been Rothlisberger saying that this head to end and that time was up. Fran. Tonio brown. Baton was up. You can't pull this off like Julio Jones couldn't pull this up if Julio Jones out to clear blew up and didn't like show up to practice during week seventeen last year, and then tried to play and then they sent him home, and then send some crazy videos out on Instagram talking about this to falcons ain't getting rid of him. Tired of him. Yeah. They'd be like, oh, man. I wonder what got into who you. Just didn't didn't think over them. And then they said Julio and be like, let's see if you willing to miss out on some chicks. That's what they would do. So like this strategy as it was played could really work for an Tonio Brown. Now. It coulda worked for Antonio Brown perhaps in Pittsburgh, if he was willing to like hold out miss him games. Because that's the thing that everybody's really gotta choice on like are you willing to go out here and miss some games? Are you willing to go out here and miss him? Check. And I am not blaming you viewer. Not out there willing to go miss him checks. But that that option always maze there what I wanna know about. This is is this going to shake up the way to the Steelers do contracts where they only guarantee people's money in the first year. I mean, that's Puerta. How we got. Here's the Steelers only guarantee money in the first year. And then what affectively winds up being the bind to constrain on the Gary on the money for you. And like the subsequent years is that they'll never cut you. They don't wanna take the cap yet. Because if they just like took a twenty million dollar cap had to get into oneal Brown out of town. They just did. Izzo like with the structure of Brown's contract. He then did in fact have the leverage wherever he got traded. Because he's like, yo the money's not guaranteed. I'm not showing up unless you guarantee the money like a lot of things had to break right here. In order for him to be in a position to shave the table in the way that people say, but a lot of those things they're broken way that allowed him to do it had to do with the Steelers and not him. He's every guy that good get somewhere, you guarantees money on this. Otherwise, I'm not sure what up and what he did demonstrate though is that maybe I won't show up. So you can't make the trade unless you are positive that he is going to show up. You just can't. There is now he gets to play for. The raiders. I don't know how excited I would be about that personally. But it seems to work for an Tonio Brown. This is my read on this from the Jon Gruden side of things. Everybody's a little surprised if the idea Jon Gruden we'd take Antonio Brown said thing Tonio Brown isn't Tonio Brown. Does all the football stuff. By that matters to them. He does all the football stuff. You'll get on your nerves and everything else. But he does all the football stuff the counterargument there, of course, is Jon Gruden and his poor relationship Keyshawn Johnson. And whether that portends toured a poor relationship with Antonio Brown, and the answer is that it might it could. I'd love to watch hard knocks gate got to be hard knocks. Right. There's gotta be them done home man that would be a treat deserving. We deserve we need this. Let me tell you. I don't know who around the raiders organization. Does it doesn't want them to be on hard knocks? I imagine the raiders would probably prefer that they'd be on hard knocks next year when they moved laws Vegas, but not no Tonio Brown is probably the person to he probably sending the most letters to the NFL. He's an auto lettuce to HBO, Matt. Thank the raiders. It'd be a great choice. He had here creating troll accounts like Botts blowing up the HBO Twitter account. Tom about raiders for hard knocks was another more than to be on camera with them. I don't understand is the only conclusion that we can draw from the moves that they made last year that they just didn't have the cash they were just cash poor because if they're willing to pay his money for trim Brown. I the biggest contract ever for an offense of Lyman, and they they while. Yeah, they they made that move. Antonio Brown guaranteed money that they're giving him. Did they honestly just not have the cash to keep Khalil Mack? Because the the way they played it when they traded MAG, and they got those picks, and then they trade Cooper. And then they got that pick. They were playing it as if they were playing for the future they had a con a coach would a contract reportedly for ten years. Right. So he has that big giant contract. And he's got all the time in the world. So let's start planning for the future. Accept. These are all win. Now moves. And that's a hell of a pivot to make given how not good that team was last year. And given the fact that we still don't know if they've got a quarterback now core played a lot better later in the season than he did early in this to me puts him on the hottest of seats. Because if he can't get the ball Antonio Brown, man, I going to be a profit. Herb ATI, bro. Air body. Thing about it. Jodi, Brown deer run an open Deir car still checking down because you'd be scared to throw the ball downfield. You think I told Brown going by about it top of the fact if that happens the raiders aren't going to be good? So the raiders aren't going to be good. And one thing we can't forget about Antonio Brown is he's never really been on a bad team before. It's been on teams that aren't they good? But he's never been on a bad team. How you think he's gonna handle that? Not. Well. Yeah. Man. Yeah. Exactly. How in the world? Do you think that he is going to handle that? So let me bless their hearts figures out. But I don't think that this is the game changer. This ain't changed the game. No more than Kirk cousins contract. Change the game. Remember, his contracts? Rules changed the game. It did not air riders air rods did manage getting a guarantees stuff. Like because when we thought that that contract was Bill James today. That's not what this is going to be. I'm just a little surprised, but how many people like I feel like people are retroactively mad about week seven teen Tonio Brown because he got rewarded with a guaranteed contract right era. Mad about it. When it happened cool. And if he wound up getting traded, they all would understand that. But the fact that he then parlay that into getting some money for himself. Oh, man. Now, people are made now people fear use and unlike alcohol man, he won the game baby. This the game. Like this is not the time to get mad at the game. He played he played it in a way that ain't gotta remember the, man. Most people ain't got the stomach to play the game the way he does. I don't think I got stomach to play the game the way he played it. Most people. Don't right. I mean, he played it hard. And he got his I don't see how you could do anything other than respected. You know, and deal with the fact that, wow, this was underpaid for very very very long time. He's getting his good for him the rate get wire receiver good for them. And Tony Brown gets Derek car. Good luck with that. All right. So Jesse Washington undefeated wrote a very interesting piece about Duke and black people rooting for Duke, and that apparently this year, the the percentage of black viewers of Duke games is higher than the percentage of black viewers for other college basketball games. I don't really have noticed on the internet that it's a lot more black people out here saying that they root for Duke. Then I ever remember happening in my childhood where did y'all come from? I'd never seen child before. But here y'all are you guys are enjoying it. Right. You know, Jesse story then wound up being kind of a look at some like historical type stuff and kind of how he believes that we got here with the attitudes that black people had about Duke basketball. I do not agree with a lot of the conclusions that he drew. I thought there was some blanks that were not filled in you. Go check it out. I I just I lived in Durham for ten years taught at Duke, I've been back and forth. Duke fans on a number of things. I have been called into the office said due to talk about whether I had a problem with them before. I am fascinated by this topic. I got some on the ground experience in dealing with it. But I am fascinated by the topic of raise in do. Because I feel like everybody gets right and everybody gets wrong at the same time and lots of things get left unsaid and Duke is like the rare thing where people will talk about raising its own way. Because there is like the white basketball player. Fact, I just it's just all over the place. Oh, and by the way, let us never forget that my chef ski once had a run of seven final fours in nine years. Seven final fours in nine years. And in those nine years, I believe that involve one two three four five national championship games. So we'd air all right now. This is how I think that this is like kind of played out or the way that ultimately went there is this dynamic of in the way people view do as be like the school. Would the white dude's basically, which is interesting because that has never been like a constant or consistent thing that's been a bit of a fluctuation throughout time. Go look at that nine hundred ninety nine due roster, which you the best team might just head. Oh, look at their roster. Why do think that easy to find on that team? Right. You start rattling off who the dudes? We're on that team goes rattling off a bunch of black dudes. I want to talk with a gentleman named Bill Brill bills passed away since I talked to him the press room at Cameron indoor stadium is named after him. And those are very conservative men, and it was very interesting because Bill like really like my radio show, except as I said bill's very conservative man, and I drove him crazy. I can never tell the Bill was trying to figure out why he liked me so much or he was trying to figure out like why he? Like me so much. I feel like it was really very to cause confusion. So we caught up, and we hung out one time for lunch. I remember he was talking about like going through like some of those olders teams. So the perception had become in the middle part of the decade prior to this one that there is a strong preference that Duke had for like upper middle class to affluent parents children of those households and like he would mention on that team. He's like, oh, man. David Henderson grew up in a in house where the dirt floor. You know, like, it was very interesting, and like a Lustre tive to talk to him in those ways as he kinda pointed out like where it was a lot of these kids came from the idea that the players were a bunch of rich kids for a long time did not really stand up that doesn't apply to Bobby Hurley that doesn't apply to Christian Leitner, Danny fairs different. Ballgame is dead was a in NBA general manager. But a lot of Antonio Lang Antonio Lang. Talking to win. His teammates. Antonio Lang had never met a white person until he got to do. There's actually a much wider range in variants in backgrounds personality types for a lot of his run of Duke basketball than people realize. But that actual truth where these guys came from didn't come from that never seemed like get across to media people in the way that they talked about the team. And Duke was just always so often positioned as though they were the analog to what the rest of college basketball was and one thing that most of the rest of college basketball was was a lot blacker. But what I think is somewhat interesting about this is I think is earlier in this. I can't remember now, but I'll say it again. Indiana basketball is something that people could say similar things about. But Indiana basketball, never really liked generated the visceral reactions that do basketball did they branded the hell out of that thing. Man, right. They branded in a way that made it that Duke was probably the most pervasive brand in college basketball, like somebody wants to tell me this about do generally speaking because basketball is that they're the one program that don't matter who you put them on TV against going rate. Doesn't matter who they play you put do gone. They are going to rate. But it was always I say the perception to do was positioned against the UNLV's and against the fab five in those, you know, those sorts of teams, and I would say that might suggest himself never really leaned into it. But the selling brand new basketball was always kind of like, we're different than the rest of y'all. I don't think there's anybody that. We're really disagree about that. And by the way, if you go I don't know how things have changed now the do recruiting change a little bit. But if you will go through message boards like ten years ago. You would clearly see a brand built on people who believe that they were different than terrestrial a really wasn't hard to do. Right. And he's not about black holes. If you talk about how y'all different than the rest of y'all in feels like the y'all you're talking about is us, probably number to go ru for you. I think that makes sense, right? I got I don't think that that's finally illogical. Like, I think that that ED's now. Thanks change for do. Especially in the decade prior to this one. I don't know what we call is all it's gay. But we're going to school and calling it alz. The new alz. Okay. So but in the offense. Do in the eighties and nineties like, I do it is one thing to be like, oh, they gotta team for the white, man. Why do is ready to fight? You like Christian Leitner is ready to fight you. Bobby Hurley dad's a probation officer. Yeah, he's a big time college. I mean, high school coach to a probation officer in Jersey City, go go look at who to kids word it. Bobby Hurley was playing high school ball with. Yeah. Like Saint Anthony's was not some super highly privileged private school. That's a school that closed down recently because for so long day, but keeping the tuition low so get kids from the neighborhood or the ones who could actually go there. Like, no, the part of this. We do was like anxious that they do. But from what I've been able to gay maybe you can give a little more insight on this than me. I've had other people mentioned in before. But from what I can tell here, man. I don't think there's anything anything in the world that make a white man feel better about himself than defeating a black person at the game of basketball. It seems to go along way. About how many movies we got that are just simply based hoosiers hoosiers. What's so moment is about dang thing. And who's except for the fact the into in. They beat the team for the black, dude. Why people are told that they are not that good at basketball. That is what they are told. Win a basketball game against the black dudes against the black school. Whatever it is people love that man. It gets the folks going if I'm surprised by has made a movie about do kit where they just changed everything turned Christian Leitner to a whole new human being that's three hundred million dollar movie right there. Fair point there people love that. It's really kind of the same AMI people love that. And it's not like they were out here like scam in U and beaten, you right, or with some old crazy trigger ration- or we're going to have to run zone because we do know man cats were getting in your shirt playing defense. And if you bang them, they banged you right back like the thing about Leitner. Is you get a lot of white dues that are really good at basketball. And then they wanted to be an overrated in ways that are not necessary pretty much every player of consequence. Every big man of consequence of his era Christian Leitner gate, a blues to he gave a blues shag he gave a blues to Alonzo Mourning ground giving the blues UNLV by the time it's done like every single one of them. It wasn't no smoke and mirrors, man. He went out there and gave it to them all as so, you know, once that happens man, people get out of hand with it. Hey, going exaggerate a little too much. They don't go a little bit too far. And that's generally not going get the different not go get. The the African American community on your side. Not really how it works. But our department odds though in boys wouldn't tough. That's when they started doing all that flop. You remember that gate? Paulison him. Oh, yeah. What really behind there? I was really JJ ready. Kind of call some strays seemed like he was a cool enough, dude. He just happened to go to do, you know? But now, then they had a stretch time man where it just seemed like them kids when cool at all. Like there was some cool about the tough do squad. There wasn't a cool about Greg policy. No. That wouldn't would words and that started affected who they could actually get to show up in play. You know, my buddy maj was radio always tells about when they ask Patrick Patterson after you committed to Kentucky about his visit to do and his answer was I wasn't filling them. What do you mean? It was like I wouldn't feel in them. All right here. Some bar. Here's aims. I wouldn't. Everybody's definitely going to go do for two years before he wound up going to visiting. I'll do Carolina. Thanks. You know, like that was that was the place that it had reached. And so what I think is happening now. Hey, like, we're separate from the Duke identity of like the nineteen eighties and nineties that's so far in the past tense. Now, it doesn't matter by Bobby Knight doesn't matter when Indiana's recruiting at this point. I don't think you know, like like we're way past that. My suggestion is now the coach of team USA. That's that's that's the image that people had their and now they are able to get an amazing caliber of talent to come out here and play and ESPN research has indicated I remember on new guy who worked on his couple years ago. One major difference in like fandom between black people white people in this country. Is there white people are much more attached to teams and franchises? And black people are much more test players. So yeah, you get Zion. Black people are gonna watch you've got to have more black people who like ultimately say they root for do. You have more now than you have before this. This miss some different for the last ten years, then it meant for the ten years before that then it meant for the ten years before that like, I imagine it's a whole lot more black people that root for Alabama, for example in two thousand seventeen than it was in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven, you know, like you get out of their push away from a lot of those things. But one reason I bring this up is. Radio in Durham, and I was talking about like man, Duke, man, y'all's refereeing strowman kidney kinda lame. I hear any streets and people get really really really mad at me about that too. Just call me a raises an audit stuff and everything everything they need to do they done unless junior every single bit. Because the brand new Guidon wack, the brand new guiding stale. And by the way, it got stale among white people too. Like, I actually find. Now, the people who hate the most passionately or not black people anymore. White people who decided that was not cool, and they were going to go to super hard on. Now is interesting to me about Duke is don't have a personality to me anymore. Less fun. This way how you felt about Duke in the first place. There's nothing really to do is stop by for year. And then keep it moving. But like there's no brand to it anymore. There's gonna there. And I mean, look really good basketball players. So this up into that they're not gonna win championship this year. But it was it was more fun. When there was something pretty specific to they were it would have been easier to appreciate him. If you just didn't have media that would just go too, far like say, the Celtics with the eighties in it would have been easy, depreciate them. You didn't have all these guys that always talked about how much smarter their team was than everybody else's and all that stuff. Right. That's stuff. Then say anything Joe black people way. We ain't stupid. We hear that. Right. He's really only why they hear that kind of stuff. It'd be like. Yeah. That's ounce about right, but people like again real. We hit it. And it does not make you think highly ado. I'll say to Stephanie more about away. I absolutely no idea. Too busy watching Zion. Don't. Trades is you we know you can't be on top of all the news and information of the day. No need for the social media feeds, we got you. Now if you haven't heard. All right, Bo. This first story comes from. My name is Peter Holly. I'm reporter covering technology for the Washington Post. My latest story is about a startup whose goal is to make the bible more millennial friendly. Now, if you grew up reading the bible going to church, you're probably familiar with how traditionally looked it's usually black or dark Brown. The text is really small the pages are thin, and it's often numbered in the front and somewhat difficult and dense to read as far as millennials are concerned the bible is boring. The start up that I wrote about called alabaster as repackage the bible to make it look more like Instagram instead of endless pages with dense text. This bible has big colorful photos and thick expensive paper. The book uses a trendy hipster font and lots of white space. If you just picked it up off the table, you might think you were holding a lifestyle magazine that sold beard oil instead of a book with the Lord's message. But in some ways, that's kind of the point millennials are running from organized religion. And the founders of alabaster think that's partly due to the packaging if the bible looked up. Today's date for generation raised on social media. They reason perhaps more people want to read it in some ways. None of this is new thousand years ago when the vast majority of medieval Christians were literate the church had to find new ways to appeal to them. What do they do? They created incredible stained glass windows, massive, cathedrals, beautiful sculptures and elaborate frescoes the packaging was what delivered the product though, it may sound controversial alabaster is doing what Christianity has always done and adapting to the times. Even if that means being more like Instagram, man, I'm not religious in any way. But I gotta say that it was stop you from salvation that you'd think that book look to borne you up. Nick. Like, that's your barrier. Correal. Wow. And as I was this again as a person that is not a religious the bible is many things. The bible is not boring. Like, oh, you mean, the bigger hell of a movie I stuff they'd be talking about in the bible, man, AB scrapping whole lot six. I mean. No. I mean, if he's stuffing their man like, you know for youngsters out here. You might wanna you might wanna go. You might won't check it out. It might be a little more cracking. Then you realize, you know, preheat some points, heavy handed as some. Yes. Correct. But man has got some pretty good stories. Is he going way? Did you? I didn't. Every day. That way Peter highly MVP MVP there at these stories. I don't look at the bylines. He just keeps picking things. I like. Dude. This next one comes from law enforcement. I'm Jim STAN with the Associated Press. This story is about a investigation that was opened into the improper use of a contraband cell phone by the pharmaceutical entrepreneur known as the pharma, bro. Martin scrolling been serving a seven-year sentence at fort Dix prison in New Jersey about forty miles outside of Philadelphia. And contraband so phones are rampant in the federal system. They're coming frankly, any jail, this particular embarrassing case for the United States bureau of prisons appears that Scully has been running his company finishes AG from behind bars. The Wall Street Journal reported last week that he regularly post to social media since deleted his Twitter account after this came out. But this essentially is a case where the bureau of prisons will now investigate to see. See if this actually happened how he got the cell phone and the federal authorities have said that he could face additional prison time if he's convicted of up to a year additionally behind bars and also possibly disciplinary sanctions violating the prisons rules on conducting business behind bars skelly had been charged with eight counts of security fraud conspiracy to commit securities fraud wire fraud, essentially lying to investors and cheating, the mega millions of dollars. He was found guilty. Several of those counts. He previously had created quite a stir when he raised the price of drug use to treat infection that occurs. Some aids malaria and cancer patients by some five thousand percent was something that caused a lot of outrage and he later became known as the pharma, bro. Hate him. I hate him. And who Tang hates him too. Zita? Election one of the jurors v disqualified because he said they didn't like any disrespected to take. Didn't he like by the rights? You bought the one copy of the album he bodies, and he's just an awful, man. There's nothing redeemable about this, dude. I hate him so much like I hate him so much that can we put together a go fund me. So that goes face can get like three months in jail, and we make do. Is it too much because I'm pretty sure the guards attorney airbags if somebody was to beach Elliott. We may have to watch out of easy in a mood on the street, by the way because the way they feel about him. They're not going to punch you they not gonna shoot you this personal. You know, what that means? Pistol whip you. And the students was tweeting, and it was active on his social media accounts from jail, she where at some point he's probably going to get pissed. This less story from tech. This is Hamza Chabanne with Washington Post to clamp down on corporate tax avoidance, the French government proposed a three percent tax on Google, apple Facebook and other tech giants. The proposed tax would affect web companies that bring in more than eight hundred forty eight million dollars global revenue and twenty eight million dollars in French revenue. And it would be applied only on sales generated in France, more than two dozen companies meet that threshold most of them American the tax would raise an estimated five hundred sixty six million dollars a year. The French government said the French proposal like others from European nations comes amid broader efforts to modernize the international tax system. Global organizations developing a plan to close tax loopholes that allow billions of dollars to escape government coffers critic, say the tech giant's generate enormous wealth, but are not appropriately taxed where they do business. The free. Government says that major tech companies pay on average fourteen percent less tax than other European companies. The French parliament is expected to pass the tax proposal later this year, the cost to individual American tech companies could be significant, especially if other nations follow suit or if the European Union establishes its own block wide tax on tech firms. They say they gonna put it three percent tags on these governors, and I don't think you could do that in the US gay what three percent of nothing pay taxes. Big on his money. They make all his money and don't have to pay any taxes. What are we get out? It is oh this is your vela's device posted up in my house in my hand. Yeah. And you have like different sender's, speaking out trying to potentially break up the big tech companies and they're getting their ads taken down off Facebook. Well, I mean, then you understand country. Like France is like they don't care about this capitalism. In the way, that we do like we bought this in a way to very few other people are France, man. I went over to France. I remember getting up as the more. I don't wanna go get me some like croissants frost. You know? Ain't nobody opened these dragging even come to work. Maybe maybe not like they're just not they're not driven by the engine of capitalism in way, too. We are they are as over them. Like. Yeah. You we we need some of that. Brit. Right. Why? Because the last thing they tried to do is go out and have to work too much harder. They just don't it. Just don't work that way. They don't think of it in the way that we do. Voicemail say, whatever you want get creative with it. But this is your place to talk back to show top back. In light of NFL free agency. All these these getting paid, including our may be we put out for. What you did with your first big check. And our first one is from Kristen Detroit. Chris betrays Dak prime where you got some free Asian money. This was back in twenty seventeen or I was just worn the point and. I I was that age where they were telling my back because I had done so out there and we were in tax free zone. I just hadn't really grasped how much they thinking on sax too. I just check where. It was close to what I was making for months, and this one was a crazy and actually recently got in trouble. They didn't even let me off. But I I was gonna fight them. I spend my money buying louisi- Dany and a pair of those that I probably got thirty and got gotta hold on. That's when I got my money. Thanks. Oh, man. Spend it out of spite that always works out will. Next from Hatheway Zona. Hathaway on their own. I did I was sixteen. My dad was a bum social security. He didn't claim claiming my mom found out long story short and check comes on day in this has numbers on hassle. Sweet. I thought it was twelve hundred dollars a month. I pay attention twelve thousand six hundred dollars. I think that money I'm living in Germany at the time. I run New York by like thirty five hundred dollars the clothes come back. They're gonna I'm the man I got close stores. The seeing internet wasn't booming at this time. So everything I had people couldn't do except see on TV. So, you know, I got the cyber tech jacket. The only video people like, oh, I don't TV felt like the main. But yes, sixteen years old. You can't do better than that. I think my dad being these definitely 'cause I was living. Good good. One letter show peaceful. My dad for Viga deadbeat at that point thirty five hundred dollars spendings for either. I don't think I've had it thirty five hundred out of spitting expre- yet. That's a lot of money. Yeah. Harry. Harry dollar things and not even that many. But I have been also yell but hit the ball dead at the other love eighty story that involves the internet wasn't booming like that if. The thing about it is to like, you know, he bought all of that stuff in New York. And then brought it back to Arizona. Yes. I mean, thirty five hundred dollars worth of clothing, especially the type of clothing that. This man was describing how did it all back there Zona? Also. I mean, I know it can get cold air zone of. She was ragged the savage takes in the desert. Thousand thing that was also a bigger thing than the now the idea that like y'all got it in New York because they got it there. You know, what I'm saying like like the stores had totally different stuff before the internet. You know, you go I can't get back into crew. Yeah. I mean, I like when I was in middle school. I went on a field trip to New York, which is like a pig thing any went there. And I was like oh on a save of monies? I can buy special stuff that they only have in New York, you know, and it is like you can get stuff anywhere. The internet that happened. This last one comes from Pocatello Bama. Was this taco from Birmingham down one time. I gotta shake they made me feel like Asian house working Auburn. Video department itchy network, and they had a regional super regional southbound of going on you know, that fair to good check out of. But wounded stuff is team. We get to fifty doing this. You know, sometime we do games day. So after this reasons in I think, I did about seven eight games. So and a van coming through. And you my Boris worked. We we decided we was gonna ride, but you're from Atlanta and just have a good time do stuff from us at Politik, whatever. So that the eighteen got to ACM when they check out a thousand dollars. First thing we got to New York where Asian them probably blew 'bout to my. Fhu new clothes and shoes. Everything out of that. So we we go we were there for about a week. Now, we have been in New York a few times before, but we stay with my partner and his grandma, but this time she had people over. So we had to get us a. Everything was, but we had to pay wedding before stuff when you're taking in a safe, you know, having to go from New Jersey all the way into the city was hit. So we thought it was gonna be buying for about it that we and we did all we offer today. Yeah. That they they run with with shortly. You know, nice. I hadn't suits on man. Nobody. For. I was waiting for that part about the hotel. What he said he took out a thousand dollars. I was like oh, man. The hotel gonna come in. And that one was amazing. He's always even two days though, it was cracking. You know that in two days, you gotta get extra money lead pocket not supposed to have not better than that. Have you ever had vacation like that? Where you set out thinking that you had a certain amount of money, and then about halfway through the vacation rain Etta money and spend the rest of the time at the hotel. Yes, I've been there and actually got lucky because I went to the Bahamas for my twenty first birthday, and you thirty five dollars to get back as a tax you pay als is really down to like change in my pockets, and I started playing slots and I hit two hundred. Clutch hit the luck their house. Clutch. Clutch lazy gentlemen, joining us here on the right time. Do this thing a couple of times week Mamane gave by saying? How does everything behind the scenes? Thank you, sir. Thank you to our sponsor. Robinhood, also, thanks if you haven't heard contributors, thanks to the MVP Peter highly check out his story on the new startup Alabama's redesigning the bible at the Washington Post. Thanks, Jim musty into the AP. Check out his story. Martin scraggly. 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Hour 3: Hack In My Day

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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Hour 3: Hack In My Day

"The. Some different stuff in this hour. I'm excited about something that was rumored from the shipping container. I don't want to say anything almost anything else. She at that. So I'm excited for that. And I'm excited. I get to go. I have a feeling that's really gonna land. So I wanna go first for what I'm gonna do. So that I don't then get up staged in overshadowed by what I think it's going to happen. So you're the opening act and Billy's really kind of excited about this was a sort of rubbing his hands together right there smiling. Big what's what's that cost that excited about high was excited about it until I did a preview, and you guys didn't seem to love it back here? So I feel like it's gonna fall flat. So the best kind aren't they? That really do we have imaging for hack in my day. Yes. We do. We do. All right. Let me fall flat. I here comes hack in my day. It is time to think at three down memory lane. Here is your guy round the Escot. If I. Actually, did it actually voiced it. Hey, it's great to be back in south beach party in the city where the heat is on right? Tonio Brown stories crazy, isn't it? You mean to tell me a world class athlete wants to win and thinks the best way to do that is to get the ball. More often have greater impact on the game. What a monster. Who does he think he is every lead athlete ever? What can? What can Brown do for you? My right. Sky gets it. Ben Rothlisberger said he's been trying to text Brown and get a hold of them but row won't text back. Oh steelers. More like hurt feelers in my right? Who do you side with because somebody's got to go? Do you want the Thirty-one-year-old receiver who's an exercise freak or do you want the quarterback he'll be thirty seven when the season starts who eats like carnival, squirrel and his hinted at retirement each day the last couple of seasons. You want the physical specimen or the guy who puts cheese on his salad. Do you want work out fiend or a guy who brings his own ranch boat to a buffet? But good for Ben on calling him out when I need guidance on off-the-field behaviour, I turned to Ben Rothlisberger. Oh. Oh, speaking guidance. It's good to see urban Meyer. Go out on top co teach a course called leadership and character in the spring semester. That was the joke. Meyer was at Ohio State. Speak. You guys at college for seven years hunter Renfro can win another national title on Monday night that he's been at Clemson since before the war. Which war? I don't I don't know you pick run Furlan I used to share an Ethernet cable. So we could download dispatch and Papa Roach online wire in college. I helped him set up his computer. And I said dude, you're getting a Dell we high five. Renfro and I used to call home from college using ten ten three to one. He turned to me one night. We were playing Dreamcast and said, you are the weakest link. We high five again what to try out some new material kind of workshop in it. Louis C K more like Louis not. Okay. Am I right? This guy knows what I'm talking about. Be though almost killed a couple of people ended dog at the Sugar Bowl almost lobotomize. The couple of Tigers more like LeBow vine is all right. What's what's what's his beef? Anyway. Right. It was very it was very on brand, right? Did he have a stake in the game? Photons should have steered clear. Why didn't they move over this? This guy gets it. That guy definitely gets it. I'm getting the light. That's my time. This guy gets it is my favorite. I mean does that really work when you're out there, you're bombing? And you got like one guy laughing to make you feel better. I think if you really bombing like you have no one laughing, and you just face gets all hot, and you sweat ease. Want to leave you want to get this far far away? Did you hear that Tiffany haddish story is that how you pronounce your last name haddish haddish had us? Yeah. She's really good too. I don't know that was down in was that down. She was probably in Florida. What it was New Year's though. So was was there something else involved? Like was she just I don't know. I think she was the main attraction, and I think she bombed. She even forgot a lot of jokes or some of her jokes. How does that happen, by the way, so stuff just come second nature like unless you're stealing jokes? Now. She so she so so funny, I wonder if like it was new material or because the photo I saw was she had a bottle in her hand. But that could've just been like a stock. I heard she like she had a couple of drinks with the audience was sorta like, hey, I'm sorry for what's happening. Yeah. You'd have to be quite a few drinks to make thought that one. Well, man acting my head. I think it definitely picked up momentum. After awhile, you should quit. Sportscenter starting. You're clear, clear pun. I mean, you have really go in the whole time. Symphony lasts from ROY. Yeah. Laughs when he. Drunk. Apparently was there any you guys were nervous. No, you know, CK around that park. Yeah. But I figured just do the not. Okay. And then just move out. Like there was nothing. Then just move on. So bad. So on the scale of the open, Mike that you get dragged to is the earth that you go to willingly for your friends for whom you care so much. How does that rank with what you've seen at some of the local John at the chuckle hut? Well, I mean, listen it sounded like the people in the studio audience over there loving. And so that in itself created an atmosphere that allowed me to love it even more the I'm trying to think of like the rest of the acts that went up that night because it's only one night that I can remember, and my buddy Bruce was actually funny. But I don't know if it was just like his mannerisms that were funny and the way he speaks or his bit or whatever. But I would say yours would have not done well in comparison, but it's because of the audience, it's because they don't really know the sports, you know. Yep. Hot crowd. You do need the right? The right crowd. I would when you write that. Are you like are you actually saying it out loud, or you practising it out loud or you just writing doing it in your head? No, I wrote it down, but I didn't practice it. I wrote it when because. Hit me up on Twitter idiom on Twitter was like, hey, what do you think for for Thursday? I was like, yeah. Yeah. That was that was what a couple days like three days ago in. So it was like all right. So I had that much time to sort of. And then thank goodness for beaver. That was great that just. Just the potential pita incident there. I was like all right at the very least there's this, and you can do some puns, and and then the other stuff Antonio Brown sort of let's see how good you are on your toes, then ushers hair. With us seen it. Oh, man. Just Google that real buying time. Hold on. No. You definitely need to Google is hair I-, shears hair. You'd notice that he'd been growing his hair out for a while. And looked looked like he had, you know, kind of like a flat top type of little bit of a fro-. But he then I don't even know the proper terminology on this ROY. What did he do here? You got a Perm the got a Perm associated with like. Term. I'm Steve is associated like perms with getting making your hair curly Perm straighten it out like what is that? Yeah. It was more like a process, really like probably. Yeah. Like a got banned from temptations. Actually. I mean that is what it looks like he saw the picture. I see he's in a fur coat. So he looks like part of the for coat is on his head. But it does look something like that. It does look like there's a very well trimmed animal on top of him. It just I always wonder why people are actually making fun of him. Because it this isn't something. He's walking around every day. Looking like he's doing this for something. Right ridiculous. That's why does look ridiculous. You look stylish somebody who's trying to go for what it's like. Fifties. Vibe lose like, call Millo Anthony on the temptations. What's wrong with Carmelo Anthony on? Temptations. He doesn't like in the still of the night with like three of his best friends on a street corner in the fifties. It would probably sell more than his last record. Yeah. Hanging around the hanging around a barrel with the fire the Cygan doo-wop. I wouldn't I wouldn't say anywhere here. Fire with that here. Probably pretty dangerous is he in a move like doing a movie like this could all be like a five or a no and nine figure joke know, it very well could be and I think it is. I think it is. It's got to be some sort of projects. He didn't say, hey, you know, what let me what was that not permit. What was the other thing process? Let me go process my hair and throw on this chinchilla real quick and get my best fifties. I don't even know. Fifties cars Ford, something take a bunch of pictures real. That is a look man that with the white time the white shirt. That's that's strong. I'm actually not even gonna mock him for it. If I could grow my hair like that. And then. One more time ROY processes process, it I I would I would wear that. Look just just I the process in my right? No, hang it. Hey. Can't all be winners. Let me tell you about Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice. Why some nights he even slept in his hockey skates? Pete practiced and practiced unto one day when he was forty seven Pete realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then you heard how DIKO proud partner of NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out lebatardshow. Stugatz. And also. DC's libertas show with this two guys on ESPN radio. So is he NBA tonight kind of light slate, but one of the day, you know, they're gonna be good. Yeah. Rockets warriors, listen raptors and Spurs is really good. But rockets warriors is also it's good on. How was raptor Spurs not on Christmas day like that one that one's pretty mind raptor, Spurs. That was mind boggling to me, that's a miss as a mess. I there are a couple of questions, and I think you've grown tired of the surprise questions. So I'll start with the one that we we pitching in discussed. Just the is Russell Westbrook. Having a good season. And it's it's it's weird because he could be a victim of his own previously. Great MVP historic seasons. I mean, if you're looking at by comparison to him, right? It's obviously not a great season, especially shooting the ball. I mean. He does so many things and it's hard to sort of really quantify everything else. But. Ten point one assists. Two point seven steals. Still still in double simply want us. Right ten point nine rebounds, getting twenty point seven points. But he's shooting forty one point six percent. And as a field goal percentage would be his worse than his third season. Our second season rather. So it's currently at forty four point six percent. He hasn't been healthier long. He is one of those guys that regardless of what you think of his game. He takes shots at our while. They are his shots are not the best shots even a lot of his attacks in the paint since he draws so much attention is at times over a few hands and through a few bodies. But he's also not getting to the free throw line like he's averaging five point six temps per game. Which would be the worst again since the second season. So. I'm not sure if he doesn't have a little bit of that spring. And maybe he's not getting shots that he thought he could get or maybe some shots or more difficult, or maybe it's a a product of being even more, passive and deferring even more to Paul George this year, given that Paul seems to be in a rhythm and looking like him, you know, MVP caliber type of player self and even last night when Russ was what three for twenty. Paul had thirty seven and they won that game at LA. So I I don't know if he's having a bad season. He's just not having a Russell Westbrook that we're used to season. And yet he's still averaging triple double, and what would be a career high steals by a lot. That's that's your. It's so strange to talk about someone averaging triple double with twenty. We're not talking about a big man triple double where the scoring is at twelve or thirteen points a game. It's over twenty. But it is the shooting numbers are so bad for guy who for his career doesn't shoot at a crazy high percentage of music thirty percent three point shooter in his career. And that's down what six points six percentage. Maybe hitting thirty this season. You know? So it's not like he's going to be the freak athlete forever. And maybe there is. You know, maybe there is something to him having to find different shots, and you sort of adjust his game the way, you know, any of the great athletes do or any of the guards who have strong athleticism have to eventually do. And so maybe there's some of that. It's great for them the thunder that Paul George is playing this. Well, he had like a drop foot situation early in the season in his left foot wasn't feeling great. Now, he seems to be feeling. Okay. It's great for them that he can work through this. Because if there's anybody in the league who is you can feel confident is going to remain confident in his abilities. It's rough Westbrook. Yeah. No. I the confidence is not an issue the entertainment value there in Los Angeles and closer game, especially with Nola Bron for the Lakers. But seeing the fund that Westbrook was having with George Atlanta Stevenson's expense, and there's no ill will. I don't think there's a will there. Right. I feel like the former pacer teammates or are still on good enough terms to where even George well the air guitar. Funny to me like I just love. It's funny. How he presents himself? When he does interviews as if he's very angry and doesn't wanna talk to anybody. It doesn't like the questions. And. Yeah. Yeah. And and a malcontent, but everything else about Russell Westbrook would seem to imply that he's not only fun and funny, but he's a great teammate. And you know, he does do the. Doesn't really vibe well with posing teammates, right but opposing players, right. But that's what you're supposed to want from your from your stars. Or from your players. You don't want them to love the opposition. You want them to love their teammates and be really good guy and really cool in a great player. And Russell seems to be all those things he does. And so does that Stephen Adams? He was pretty funny yesterday talking about Paul George getting booed in L A. And like, I don't think there's a ton to be made of it. Like if you expected Paul George be cheered just because he's from the area ends twice turn the Lakers down last night. Like, I don't know that shouldn't surprise anybody. And I don't know if anybody really needs extra motivation, anybody really being Paul George extra motivation to go ahead and beat the Lakers like trying to beat a team that isn't in playoff contention outside of do. We have the sound from Stephen Adams last night, where he basically goes into like, I don't know. It's probably a curse word where he's from in Australia. The whole the word bloody feels like a skirt around of that like dodging the cursing issues, but it was pretty funny hearing Adams. And the accent talk about hey, we are professionals. We are grown men. We shouldn't need this go outside her personally. It's good like if someone else into teammates professionals in becoming every night, I'm not just to rely on the fans to do. So you got a job to do. I think it's most us knowing that like, you know, we got a play it full each other more than just I all the fans are getting in the hot time play them Hotta. Title. Maybe he didn't dodge the cursing. But I I absolutely would like disagree with the guy in the sense that the Lakers fans are just creating something out of nowhere. Like why? Or why do you hate him? Like, why do you expect it because there were rumors that he wanted to go there and you made a better decision? It was never a Laker. He wasn't even a UCLA Bruin for crying out loud. He was just the guy who happens to be from the area, so them chanting. We don't need you as stupid and wrong because we don't you mean, we don't need. You don't need you to make the playoffs. So we don't need you to be better because they definitely need him to be better. Yeah. Lebron was their LeBron's there on the on the sideline stabbing him up. He's probably like, hey, maybe we could call it with some of this because like maybe maybe could complete with us, and we do sort of need him. And when could use him to go win title, which is of course, the ultimate goal for tonight. Do you like, okay? So the other night with quite Leonard. It was historic forty five points is career high better than seventy percent shooting. Would you rather watch that forty point game? Or would you rather watch? Of the forty point games. We've seen on this run. From James harden where it's forty points. But it's like twenty two free throw attempts. Yeah. I'm not a big not a big free throw shooting fan. I don't like to watch him. I am on an James Harden's camp, though, where people who complain about it just need to stop fouling because they are they're failing him whether his game, you know, lends itself to that. And it's not a statically pleasing, whatever. She's still getting fouled. And so stop it. And I think what happens is in the playoffs of people do and they're just like make shots. And and maybe he's not making as many in their more beatable. What have you? But yeah, I feel like especially with coli though, it's it's more very much. So the way he gets his points is almost intriguing because it is almost fun to watch the old school approach a little bit. Like he does he does play the mid range game. He does have that that mid post, and then, you know, some of those fadeaways, and it's not where the analytics guys will tell you are the most efficient shots, and yet he finds a way, but even he's getting to the foul line. Like Joel Embiid had a forty some point game. Was it last night? And you know, you got to line nineteen. And it's not as fun to watch either. But you know, it happens in like, I don't I'm one where I'm not going to knock James harden, just because he gets foul line in order to get you know, do what he has to do. I mean, he's still putting up Kobe numbers. Just because it's the popular seemingly the popular thing to do the invoke and be Twitter thing to do is rip the guy who's getting the line. We're going to turn things over to Billy the I don't know what this is. I'm going to sit back and watch. But I know it's happening next, and I'm very excited about it. Donlevatar? Stugatz. When you have the hammer go to use it DCC's donlevatar show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. So I don't know how to handle what's going to happen next. I think I know how I'm gonna react to it. I think I'm gonna laugh he will have really hard. I think I've made it two and a half hours without realizing being called a low bowl loser on the graphic. Is it sure? Is it not it? It is factually accurate. Yuck. Yeah. There's nothing that is not wrong on there. All of it is correct still hurtful, but that's fine. So is Billy taking it away. Are we introduce no actually, I think we need to probably get into this Antonio Brown situation. Because it is the crux of what our game was built on. Nice. And so I'm sure you're in the audience is pretty well filled in on Antonio Brown situation. Right. He apparently walked out on the team during the week of practices. He tried to come back. For the game on Sunday was told. No, thanks, and that's not how things operate and reportedly left. Ryan Clark, one of our own had went on the air and told a story about Antonio Brown. We have a sound of that. But it's the reaction to it. That's really intriguing, but here's the story that Ryan Clark said on the air quick story. It's only overall is walking past a weight room in training camp right now, we hear that Mike Wallace has turned on his deal. He's going it's going to stir year you Mike Wallace turned on his deal. And I knew already that they were going to offer Antonio and he's walking past and I turned to the strength coach. And I say when you give him money, you're going to create a monster day practice Tonio, and I almost get into a fight because he say things to coach the book, he's screaming coach lebeau screaming at us defensively. Don't touch me. I'm the franchise this and that and which is a reasonable story. It's doesn't matter who you take that side on whether you take Tonio side or. Orion side, it seems like something that could happen in an NFL room. And then Antonio Bryant response was on social media and you'll Brown excuse me. I always say Antonio Bryant. Why Tokyo Brown's response is just the words, Tom? And now, he's got this whole organization in shambles. They're trying to figure out, you know, probably won't trade them because of the the cap hit it'll cost them. And yet he's sitting there calling out people creating a rift or what have you all this is going on right about now? And it's a mess in Pittsburgh. And then this show called the mast singer comes along, and you know, the premise of the show. I do I'm familiar, right? Yeah. And so the mast singer, and I'm gonna let Billy ticket from here. Well, for those of you who don't know the massing or eight as a great show. So it's a singing competition, but they have celebrities artists athletes performers of different kinds, go out and perform in a singing competition, but they're basically and mascot costumes, and obviously what did you ask yet giant wants to kind of throw off not only what they look like, a body type, etc. It's big baggy. Clothes like yesterday was the premiere episode hosted by Nick cannon and the judges are Ken Jong Jenny McCarthy, Nicole Scherzinger and Robin Thicke, and they're there to try to basically guess who these celebrities are and these celebrities with under disguised voice, do give some hints right? Yes. So they'll come out before they perform, and they'll give three or four hints, and they have like altered voices. So they can't fill. Out who they are. But they're kind of clues. So you can guess who they are. I can read to you. What end Tonio Brown said yesterday. Sure, he said I'm used to performing in a mask, and this is of course. Alternatively? Spoiler alert Antonio Brown's yesterday. He was a hippo used to performing in a mask and in front of thousands of screaming fans every time I win. I just got a dance. Even if it gets me in trouble. I conquer every arena that I enter. I don't think you need to change your voice. Yeah. No. You don't have kids. Yeah. So anyways, the first round was peacock versus hippo and peacock was pretty good people are starting to say, I just so you know, is he if I feel like I've been checked out today. It's because I've been looking up like fury's onto who these people are during the show because I can't get enough of this show. We wanted to have a show Randy. Whereas you could call on every week, and he could tell us what he thought of that show. And then we thought the singer would be good. But it might not be great because kind of the suspense is gone after they perform, you know, who they are. But the way they take a week to week. This is perfect because there's so much buzz today about the Massingir. So the first round was peacock versus hippo now as spoiled for you, we all know hippo ended up being Antonio Brown and peacock some people think is Donny Osmond. So they voted the peacock was more talented. So he moved onto the next one hippos endanger next round monster versus unicorn now monster had a tremendous performance. But somehow the fans in the audience voted for unicorn to move on. So monster was endanger, then we've onto the next round. Dear versus lying. Dear is Terry Bradshaw. I don't care if someone other than Terry Bradshaw comes out of that costume next week or whenever it is. That's Terry Bradshaw. I can't wait until somebody that's entirely different than it. Terry breads, Terry Bradshaw. The body type is the same. Even with the distorted voice you had that southern twang in it. So he's the only person in all of celebrity who has a southern accent? It's Terry Bradshaw. Telling you, I am more convinced that it's Terry Bradshaw than I am that monster is t pain because that's what everybody's saying ping could be monster. And you can actually think that's the thing. He throws people off. And then here's the suspicious thing about monster and t pain's antics last night. So everyone at monster is t- pen. I thought we were playing a game. And we just go over time. We're just explaining what's going on. So people know what what's going on here. So people start tweeting at t pain. Hey, I know you're monitoring your monster. And the team is like I don't know what everybody's tweeting me about. And it's like deeping trying too hard. Okay. We know your monster. Now, here's my question because then Tonio Brown got eliminated. So is hippo now like an acceptable nickname for Antonio Brown moving forward. And that is interesting. It isn't the timing of all this is crazy. Oh, but it's such bad timing because you know, that this tape like months from June from whatever. Yeah. It was ju I'm Madge Terry Bradshaw was free. I'm imagining Mike Tomlin though last night watching it just at his house. Like, this is a good show. And all of a sudden. Brown. That's what I love about this. I wonder like I'm sure he probably spoke about it to teammates and stuff during the season or whatever oil on this. I don't. Secret. Show is you really think the dude is Facebook live in his in his own low post game locker room is not gonna tell a handful of people that he was the hippo. He kept the secret man, and they show them movie. The and artists out of the studio completely like with the visa Vano mass covering their faces. So you can't see what it is that they look like well in that case I wanted nothing more than in my living room. I'm not assuming he's watching that game where maybe the GM or what have you watching the reveal of that? And being like, I mean because it really doesn't do anything. You can't really say anything negative about him. It was filmed in June. Whatever it is what it is. But this is when he decides to a that they decide to air this happens to lose. There's also speculation that the deer is von Miller. Really? Is it just all athletes? It's now von Miller the deers I'm telling you right now. Dear is Terry Bradshaw. I'm convinced and the judges have to guess who they think that it is and their guesses are terrible their guesses are simply horrific. I don't know if they don't know what these people sound like what's going on. Anyways that inspired this game that Lorenzo actually came up with. Which is called the masked taker and we don't have time for it right now, we don't have time for the next segment, but the way this works is we have takes and we've distorted their voices. And as I'm explaining this realizing it's not good because it's not a visual thing. So the only way you have to enjoy this both TV and radio is hearing it, and if you can't make out their voices, it's an impossible game. This sounds like it's going to work amazingly, donlevatar IVA friend. He was very early on as great as a great awful story. It's early in the dating process she has to go to the bathroom bathroom overflows with debris. Oh stugatz. Cheese quietly trying to clean it up. He walks up the stairs. And sees her on her hands and knees, they meet is. And she immediately begin sobbing. Gordon? She's gonna begin sobbing. I would have begun summit. I would've looked up one. Libertador show with this two guards on ESPN radio Philip stugatz. ESPN radio the SPN app. Siriusxm. Channel eighty. I've enjoyed my time with Israel Gutierrez one day. We'll we'll meet again in person is he maybe the next talent summit. I've enjoyed my time with you. Randy, Scott voice. I'm very glad that like print out a picture of me to put in the studio the just disembodied graphic representations. Good. Good enough for me every time. I look up. I think we should give the floor. We have had a thorough explanation of what behind the mask is. And how Bill is going to try to like make it his own adopted some I'm gonna get out of the way. Again, it's called the massing the big fine. Randy what did I say behind the mask? That's clearly that we're going to do on it later. Ten dollars. No five dollars five. Oh, sure. I could do. I'm taking a step back, Billy. All right. So as we explained you guys, I think are familiar with the premise of the mass singer. I could go through one more time you'd like, okay? So we decided and Lorenzo pitches idea to us of having something called the mass taker so what we've done is we've gotten six personalities who we've either had on the show or played clips of these people on the show, so famous sound not just any sound famous show sound that we've used on this very the Dan lebatardshow with. Stugatz. Played it before. Now, we've distorted the sound and we wanna see if you can get who these mass takers are. So who is the first mass take? If you're. Kind of Connecticut. That's a nightmare. I can tell something about putting it in my backyard in New Haven, Connecticut goes new Canaan, Connecticut. So think money that's gotta be like a celebrity celebrity. A what kind of mask was this person wearing? This is going to help a baseball helmet baseball. Now, I'm going to go with man. I don't know if he's ever been on the show or even if he's still alive. Lenny dykstra. You have any guesses. Randy I'll go. Yeah. I will go with. I'll go Tom kurkin. Oh, Mikey CD of guest. Bobby valentine. Oh, all right. Here's. I wanna watch those fame ceremonies if you put it in my backyard in you can't Connecticut, and that, of course is Chris through. So all right next mass take going well. So I like it. I like it. I noticed. Somebody on his line, right? That is mean a guy. So she's the first one eliminated or she's just got it. Right. We got different rules unmasked that women that we've unmask. All right. Who's the next mass taker? Wait. What mask was this guy wearing sky was wearing a hockey mask? I don't know the guy's name. But it's that sucker guy who called the messy affront. Is that the Greg name is that his actual name is Ashley? Is it Ray? Oh god. No. All right. Cool. Wasn't Ray anything. What's the guy's Hudson? No, it sits sex Shera talking about. Did. You wanna hear the clip? Yes. Ray Hudson that Rinaldo from Brazil could play with anyone and win. That's greatness. That's a goat. That's the guy respect fraud. You know, people used to say that I looked like that Renaldo. I never heard of called fat Rinaldo. But just for purposes of that reference. Do you get that at all? No, no. All right. How many more do we have we have three more probably gonna run on time? Who's next? Support. Thanks. Man that was tough. It was very well disguised was it human. It's definitely a human maybe two humans man any guesses. I almost I wanna hear it again. But I don't wanna hear to get. Do. You have any guesses. Randy. I need to hear it. I could not make of it. I don't know. But now it sounds like a song when I hear it. I hear a cuss word. No brand is no come on. What do you know? I know there's. I'm going to say, it's Billy and Chris. No randy. I'll go is it the cody's. Cider Mike, Golic and wingo. Who good guest win the damn doesn't get any run support? It's at three point six runs. You gotta hey. I sold very famous Frank guy. So the with Michael wilbon. Yeah. All right ready for the next one is going great. So sorry, Joe. Oh. This is a really famous cliff on this show, really famous most famous. Wow. These slowed Adele so much. Yeah. I don't think we have time to think about it. Just give it to me. One that truck I've often said offense. All right ready for the last one that of course, Stevie. All right here comes the lanced stopping. Rosie finds it here. Everyone knows the end gave it away. You know that one come on. That's another famous show about quarterback. And he really here really quick really quick. Marshawn Lynch is Randy. Oh my God. I can't hear the. If you're one of the people out there that is planning a parade for Owen sixteen. I will fight you see me right now. I'm at Buffalo Wild Wings as Tony Rizzo. Never would have gotten that would have gotten though. And that is a great game you really need to speed those up a little bit though disguise to well. Their ransom note phone calls is what they are. I liked it though. Good job, Billy. Thank you guys. Thank you, Randi. Thanks. Nice.

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Moment of the Day (8/12/19)

Boomer & Gio

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Moment of the Day (8/12/19)

"<music> tonio brown last hour the helmet saga dragging on even though it seems clear he has no ground to stand on others have complied. He hasn't geo knows that's how it tonio. Brown is doing five hundred dollar cameos. There's no way he's gonna sit out entire year. Within the other thing i would just say this and i know that it's easy to complain complain but i i would just look back at your former players that have played in this league in some of the things that they're dealing with. When it comes to head conditions yeah i mean this is going to end and in a spectacular way. I'm sure it's just gonna be antonio brown with old helmet on spray painted silver leaving in a hot air balloon. Ah yes there you go fellas moma the day we'll see you tomorrow morning all right see low as c. In studio ceelo had poison ivy <music> beyond friday boomer so hopefully that is <hes> rectified by the time that you show up as you said very close ten minutes highly contagious don't touch lixion at all but that's all right for my for my purposes.

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Cardinals are desperate - How full is Flacco's tank

The Stinkin' Truth with Mark Schlereth

23:42 min | 1 year ago

Cardinals are desperate - How full is Flacco's tank

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Find out more at hydrate with core dot com. Mike, how are you buddy? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I can't wait to see where in Tonio Brown lands Amal excited. I know Adam Schefter of ESPN kind of put out there on Twitter that they expect Antonio Brown to sign by Friday or by this week. End. So it'll traded yet trade it trade. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe not signed, but trait. Well, you know what I meant. But it should be tomorrow Friday or a Saturday sometime this week got a feeling as to where it's going to be Derek Carr came out and said he would love to have Antonio Brown. Boy, this is just seem like a raider move. You know, right. You know, it's it's like the kind of move out. Davis would make looking at bring back, you know, the downfield lateral passing game. What are you trying to? Downfield lateral passing game. Fifteen plays in cloud of dust lateral passing game. So true story. You know, you and I do our morning show in Denver. Yeah. So we're talking we've talked about this before. And I said, yeah, I said, you know, the the downfield lateral passing game. And you look at like two times. And you're just looking at me. I'm like, wow. What am I gonna booger? Trying to get me, you know, the downfield vertical passing game. And I'm like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mark. I was trying to get you shrewd like a FOX. Yeah. Nothing says downfield passing like a swing pass to the running back. Yeah. Pretty funny stuff. But it does. I mean, it is so raider esque, right? And and I think if you look at you just look at the raiders last year, they're number one receiver had about sixty sixty three catches that was Jordy Nelson. The lack of the lack of explosion the lack of productivity in the passing game last year under Jon Gruden you. Look, I mean. You look at their receivers. It's like looking at a witness relocation program. Right. I mean, it's itself Roberts. It's Martavis Bryant. It's Brandon Lavelle. Brandon la- fell. I it is a list of a bunch of threes and fours that they had a play with every week. They're tight end with Jared cook, I believe was there tied in. He was the most productive guy. They had on their roster. Jordy Nelson had sixty three catches for like seven hundred yards. It was pretty pathetic. So you look at the explosive nature of Antonio Brown. That part makes sense. Also, if you wanna talk about Reiter, s can mean think about all the Al Davis moves where they went and got the, quote, unquote, malcontents, you know, and the autumn wind is a raider, you know, and all that kind of mystique and all those bad boy situations, I just wonder if you can't get along with hall of Famer Ben Rothlisberger. If that's something you can't get you can't get down with. How are you gonna mash with the rates? I mean, how are you going to mesh with? I guess you'll be happy, man. Antonio Brown had like a hundred and sixty some targets last year. So you won't be having unless you get two hundred with the other receivers you might get two hundred targets with Oakland. But it's not like Derek cars. A spare at quarterback the guys good quarterback the question, but really good run their prior to last year. So there's no reason why that combination can't flourish. You would think me. But if it's the only like if it's if it's what you base out of its if it's what this only thing you have and Jon Gruden really it's funny because he really got away from running the ball last year really got away from kind of the formula formula formulaic, I formulated X formulaic from your ladder. Tomato tomato formulaic approach to what the west coast. Offense has always been obviously wanna throw the ball, obviously want. They had the quick timing routes and the slant routes, and you the swing passes and all that stuff. But there was a lot of running involved a lot of the running game, you know, back when he won a world championship with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They ran the ball, you know, multiple backs and stuff, and they really got away from a lot of that last year under Jon Gruden. Of course, you know, some of that is just personnel issues that they have and strip in this thing down kinda to the studs getting ready for that move to Vegas Amine. You think Antonio Brown's a problem in Pittsburgh, wait till he's in Vegas. He'll have his own. He was on the he was on the mass singer, right? He was the hippo is he going to do a show is he going to be the hippo is he going to have a Vegas show or I can't show up to practice because I've got a Vegas show that I'm working on. I'll just show up on game day. Got twenty minutes masked hippo. Residency at Caesars or something. Right. Exactly. He's just out there. Singing old Bobby Brown songs. But. Here's the thing about an Tonio Brown, though. Isn't this kind of just? This notion he's gonna come in and be a headache doesn't go away the moment. He gets the new daily wants come on hasn't eighty five percent of all this Ben about getting a new contract. And if he gets a new contract, he'll be fine. He'll tow the line at least for the beginning. These her year or two I will pay them. I mean, I would imagine me. He he got a new contract who was the highest paid receiver in football. And he's still shows up late and misses meetings in and now a lot of that's on the Steelers on Mike Tomlin because you've allowed it to happen as Herm Edwards always said, and I love her homeless my guy, but he always said in regards to coach and he's coaching Arezzo state. Now is you either coaching allowing it to happen. So you either coach guys to be late or you allow them to be late one of the other. You know, you either you either you either accept the rules that are in place the rules are in place. They have a purpose. Right. It's about discipline. It's about showing up and it's about. Carrying about your teammates and you enforce those rules. Are you don't enforce those rules? And so a lot of Antonio Brown and the issues that in Tonio Brown has because he's been allowed to have those issues. Now has he developed so many bad habits that regardless of who's coaching him. He'll you know, he'll question the authority or he won't you know, fall into line. I I don't know. I I mean, I would assume that you know, he's already down that path of he he's I mean just listened to him. He's crazy. I don't believe in overpaying overdraft ING wide receivers. They play a dependent position. And if you look at the teams that win Super Bowls. They don't over invest in in wide receivers you look at the highest paid wide receivers. And it's it's not like these guys are putting their teams into championship games are winning Super Bowls. That said I think that you have situations like the raiders have right now where your quarterback needs somebody to throw. And maybe the day will come where there's enough around. Derek Carr that Derek Carr will. Everybody looked better than they really are. Right. But until that moment comes this offense is so lacking talent. And Derek Carr has so few options to throw throw too. I think Antonio Brown with raiders makes perfect sense. Perfect. It does from that standpoint. It also does as you go to Vegas, right? You wanna have immediate? You wanna have kind of fireworks? You know, you wanna have kind of a coming out party as you move to Vegas and they've done they've done what they had to do as far as stripping down the roster and kind of starting over from the studs. If you will that's kind of the philosophical approach to what they're doing right now is an organization. So I I would tell you that. That it does. I mean, it makes more sense than Antonio Brown going anywhere else. I mean, where else have you heard of potential deal going like, I I would say this, you know, from dysfunction standpoint, one of the most dysfunctional organizations in my mind in the NFL having called several their games and Bennett their practices and the Miami Dolphins like he'd be a perfect fit in Miami. Dysfunction central dysfunction, saying well, I'll tell you another place that I think is shaping up on. Fortunately in cardinal fans aren't gonna want to hear this. But I have a feeling that Zona is heading into. What's it? What's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different resort. Look what Arizona's done they they fire Steve Wilks after just one year. Josh Rosen by the end of that first year. You're hearing people say, you know, the red flags surrounding this kid were legit. And now all of a sudden they turn to cliff Kingsbury who couldn't win Texas Tech with Patrick Mahomes as quarterback. And now the likelihood of them drafting Cuyler Murray making Murray the first under six foot quarterback ever to be drafted in the first round. And he's going to go number one overall. I just get the sense that the cardinals rinse and repeat Mark I fully expect them to be redoing this entire thing. Coach and quarterback two years from now remember the movie ghost. That movie Patrick Swayze? Sure. Demi Moore Whoopi Goldberg member he's trying to annoy Whoopie Goldberg and he kept singing. I IM Henry the eighth by him and radiate by I am an it goes second verse same as a I I am Henry the eighth. That's thank God. You went that way. I was afraid you were gonna make be recreate the whole pottery wheel thing with you than some all bad any who? But it does it just feels like second verse same as the first. I mean, it feels like a obviously a move of desperation. Whether that's Steve times desperation, whether that's ownerships desperation me when you go, and I called a bunch of their games, man one. They're not putting people in the stadium. Like, they have in the past obviously winning, you know, winning begets people coming to your stadium. But when we went there, I remember doing Chicago Bears game there and Chicago immediate was like Chicago home game. And I understand that Arizona's kind of collect the population of people from all over the all over the nation. But they've got to put an exciting product on the football field to get their fan base excited about coming out to watch their team. That's where they are right now. And I mean, I'll give them this credit you've gone all in and whatever it is. You're going all in on. I it seems like you're going all. In on college football. You know, this this spread type of offense. The what do they call that? What do they call that under air raid air raid offense? And and you know, you're going to go with Murray, and you're going to run around and do all those things, and I'll tell you what. Now, all of a sudden, they're pulling back on the whole Josh Rosen's open for business because you know, the the word on the street right now is you're not gonna fetch more than a third round draft choice form this guy that you from don't forget you moved up several spaces and the draft several spots in the draft to go up to get the guy at the tenth overall pick. And he came out and said, remember, you know, it's kind of an arrogant kind of cocky, kind of a maybe a confident whatever, however, you want to have or you want to do whatever spin. You wanna put on whatever your narrative is said, well, I just think there were nine teams that made a mistake in the first round. But not taking me. I well now all of a sudden is values a third rounder. I still. I think they're going down this direction. I think what they're trying to do is pull back a little bit to see if they can garnering interest to get more than a third round draft pick for Josh Rosen. And I just don't know that you are. I don't know that you're gonna get more than kind of that offer. But in fairness to cliff Kingsbury, I mean he had to get hired. He just didn't, you know, claim himself coach, and you've always said you have to empower your head coach. So doesn't that include if I'm hiring this guy because of the offense of genius that I believe he's going to bring don't I have to let him go all in with the kind of quarterback he wants, and even if it feels like we're starting all over again, and we wasted the Josh Rosen pick, and we might be saying ourselves up to be doing this all over again in two years. Once you make that decision to go to Kingsbury, right? You gotta let the guy be who. He is. I've always thought one of. One of one of the organizational, organizational mantras, you have to have or or tenants that you have to have is when you make a mistake. Let it go move on. And if they truly look at one the cliff Kingsbury thing is the way to go and he needs his quarterback. And you look at Josh Rosen. Like man, we blew that pick. But. Like here in Denver. We watched them hang onto Paxton Lynch for three years where you're looking at it like you knew from day one that it didn't look like it was gonna work out when you're getting beat out by seventh-round or and it's not close, you know, you're going. Oh. And when all the reports are doesn't wanna work last guy to show up in the morning. First guy to leave doesn't want to study. You know, you have to you have to do a really good job of assessing what kind of guys you have in your building. And if a guide doesn't fit what you hoped he was to move on quickly because you look at you look at Denver last year. I think part of the reason they didn't go quarterback when they had the five overall pig, and they could've traded down. They could it may be traded up. Whatever the case may be part of the reason they didn't go in that direction is because they were still holding out hope that Paxton in his third preseason his third training camp. The light was going to go on. And you can't let one mistake compound and become three or four mistakes. You can't let it linger for half a decade. You know what I mean? And I think I'll give him credit if they decided that Josh Rosen, and I don't know if they've made this decision or not. But if they decided he's not our guy. Then at least you're ripping off the band aid. And I think that's I mean, I think that's important. Don't you think? Think it's the wise decision. If you're going down this road. Now, I will say this like Josh Rosen multiple coordinators in one season McCoy first and then Byron left, which I think he had multiple coordinators at UCLA like, I think all those things are exceptionally difficult to overcome, and you know, and you had a t you had a dearth of talent. I mean, their offense of line was awful. They couldn't block their way out of a white paper sack. So. You know, and and obey the way not Larry FitzGerald was kind of their most dynamic receiver playing in the slot. Now, they drafted Christian Kirk who I think's got potential to be really good, but he should be a slot receiver and they had him playing outside out of position. So I think there's you know, there's a lot of. I think there's a lot of of things there that you look at that say in. It was an all Josh Rosen. There's a there's a lot of issues here that he had to overcome. And he was putting a pretty kind of untenable situation as far as winning is concerned with the lack of town that they surrounded him with eight. Oh, we haven't done it in a while. What's that look question? Mark question. Mark, you know, where people can. Tweet into you right with civic questions that they like answered. Yeah. So what do you say? Would you some of that here? I'll give you my Twitter feed. And you can ask me a question from the hundreds of questions that came in as they always do. So go at you. All right. This phone comes in from Matt who asks Mark are the patriots making a mistake. Letting so many key free agents go out and test free agency. Past week. They didn't put a franchise tag on Trent Brown, Trey flowers. Right. Or Stephen Gostkowski. Is that a mistake? Trae flowers is the one that's interesting to me. But here's what you have to understand about the New England Patriots. They always feel like listen, we're gonna draft guys when coach them up. We're going to get the best out of those guys, but we're going to create pressure. We're gonna create we're going to create great defense through schematics. According to put you in a position to have success and a lot of those plays or a lot of those sacks. Or a lot of those things. Obviously, you're good player. Obviously, you know, you beat guys obviously, you do the right things. But we're gonna put you in a position to have success. And so they feel pretty strongly that they can get that done. Think about this Chandler Jones was I think the lead leaguer league leader in sacks in the AFC when he was with the New England Patriots. I'd like twelve and a half sacks. And they weren't gonna pay him. You know, and he went on to lead the league with Arizona at seventeen. Seventeen and a half sacks one year. I mean like the guys a legit player. But they're if they're not going to overpay him. They're certainly not going to overpay. I certainly not gonna play overpay. A flower. You see, maybe they're logic. Their logic is something where they look at it and say, okay, we drafted flowers in the fourth round. We know based on free agents that we've lost in the past that you likely get like a third round compensatory pick. So they're thinking, maybe look we used a fourth rounder on flowers. Get a third rounder in a compensatory pick. And we already have a track record of being able to find guys and coach them up. So it look. When it comes to the patriots and their decisions at this point. You really can't criticize them you. Just gotta say they seem to have a method to their madness. And it seems to work for they're just not overpaying guys just for the sake of of paying guys because they hit free agency. So, you know, good for them. They've got a philosophical approach who might argue nine Super Bowls in the last eighteen years. You know, I mean every other year, so whatever I mean, that's the way they operate. What are you got question? Mark got another one got another one from Rene. What will the Bengals do those five six round picks? To have five sixth round picks will based on the Bengals they're probably going to get some criminals right in that with the Bengals do Tom Brady. Six round pick. Yeah. Terrell Davis six round pick. There's a lot of really good. Like, there's a lot of good talent. There's a lot of good play the the bottom line, especially there. You have got to just look for the best football players available, regardless of position who are the best players at that level. Because the guys who slipped down to the six round. There's a lot of really good players. They just don't have the measurable 's. Right. That that's really what it comes. They don't run quite fast. And they don't jump quite high enough. They don't do enough, you know, enough reps on the bench test all that kind of stuff. But I'm telling you like you can find really good players. And so that's going to be the philosophical approach. You know, it'll be funny to see kind of now that Marvin Lewis has gone what kind of player what kind of direction they go. They've got the young quarterback coach from the Los Angeles. Rams. What is his name's activity leader is their head coach now. So how the their approach to players in what they want to accomplish Mike one more from Russ who asks Mark how much does Joe flacco have left in the tank. I think Joe I think Joe flacco. So is you look at Joe flacco me, I think nine of the eleven years that he's played. He has been started all sixteen games. And so on I mean, you look at just that Mike come on. I think they used to be a day in this league. Where you know, you got the hit the quarterback, you gotta drive into the ground. You gotta do all. So you enter your private like twenty seven years old. Now, you're hitting your prime thirty one thirty two years old like you're walking into your prime and guys are playing deep into the thirties, even in their forties exceptionally. Well, drew Brees going to be forty years old. Tom Brady is going to be forty one years old Ben Robbins, burgers, like thirty seven thirty eight. So is Philip rivers. I mean, come on. So I think Joe flacco for all those people out there that think that this is John Elway's one year fix. I think you're I think you're mistaken. I think they're looking at flacco like can you get us through three or four years? Are you that guy for three or four years? So I think he's got plenty in the tank and the hip in. Injury is what it is. He's recovered fully. He was ready to play last year. They went in a completely different direction with that kind of offense under Lamar Jackson last year. So that's kind of that's where we are right there. So I I guess I guess the answer the Russia's question is they got plenty of time, man. And to your point flacco just turned thirty four. So he'll be playing this entire season at age thirty four right, which you're right. 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Hour 1: Stu Guts

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Hour 1: Stu Guts

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This is the Dan lebatardshow with this got spot Cass. I have lived long enough to see Mike Ryan look at television screen where LeBron James is being interviewed point at the television screen and say the words, this chump, we'll get to that in a second a startling thing to have spinach your television. But that's where LeBron James in a mess of a season finds himself. We've spent an awful lot of time talking about a guy who's not gonna be in the playoffs this year that season a staggering amount of time. Greg Cody is with us today. He is sitting in for stugatz in one half hour. He is going to unveil Stu guts, we're going to see where that and up Billy's got a complaint with me in terms of Iraqi video that we sent out. Yesterday that you may or may not enjoy number of things I want to get to and Tonio Brown and just how awful his birthday messages are Konya west amazing to see that he has now not allowed to retire. And all the guys who came a foreign warned him. Don't be the artists be the executive. They all warned and now he's in a lifetime contract because he was a sucker. We'll get to that in a second. But before we get anything else. Chris cody. Oh, yeah. I'm starting with Chris Cody so yesterday, if you're listening to the show, this is not surprising to you at all. Chris Cody product of nepotism, huge freckles on his face was red faith that huge. Just a lot of them red faced with shame yesterday because he was at the Tito's vodka tent four vodka in on this weekend. And somebody caught him. Yelling VJ sings name. If you're watching on television on ESPN news and the camera closes in on Chris cody's. I want to say neckline, you'll notice a bacon neck on that shirt. It's not because it's having trouble fitting over his skull. No, it's because he's been pulling on his neck area for fifteen minutes since he heard there was more to this story coming okay now yesterday, if you were listening to us, you know, that someone accused him of this and he had to cop to it. He did indeed for vodka in shout VJ Singh. But he thought that was the end of it. Now, we've got another accusation here because Chris Cody drove home from the Honda Classic. And he wrote home someone else. Drove he he went home from the on the classic, and and he was singing along, and he had too many vodka and then fear struck him a bit of a panic attack. These like what did I do? Did. I do something that's so unprofessional that it's going to have consequence. But he thought he escaped it yesterday's you guys. Tell me if this is true. And if it makes it worse. A tweeter writes in. I recall watching VJ on seventeen and being profoundly embarrassed for the solo VJ enthusiasts shouting his name, not only did VJ back off the tee shot. He then proceeded to hit it in the water and immediately fall out of contention. Chris Cody is that what you left in your wake and your vodka soaked wake as you drove away from the Honda Classic. Did you ruin VJ not drive away? He was driven. And what and we say was seventeen. Yeah. That was on fifteen round Ruiter. Did did this happen? I need to understand. I need to know if this Google again that was not me. I mean, I was thinking of like just playing it and saying that was made. But that was not me. I did not go to the seventeenth hole. So you're saying more than one person yelled VJ sings name. There was nobody else in this field. He didn't make it to seventeen. You ruined. Jay saying I need to know if this is true or not I need to find this person on Twitter gamma plays. And let's hunt him down and find out. What's true? And what's not true? Is it regards? Chris cody. But I gotta take Billy's complaint now. Billy is right. When he complains that my hand was a little too firmly on his, but when we were dancing around frolicking in the water in our recreation of rocky threes, homo Arado slow motion celebration the beach before we get to your hand placement. Not a bad outing for VJ only three strokes back the leader. I mean he'd finished this a top six finish highest international finish, right Vija. You got him back. Okay. So he didn't fall out of contention a field where there was only one. No name. And Chris Cody was shouted. Welcome. VJ? Oh, no. This is this was a good. This is a good tournament right here. I see Ricky Fowler Brooks KEPCO furic is over that Sergio Garcia. I mean Schwartz. Oh, yeah. They only had three of the top twenty ranked players. Billy. Where are you? So we released this video. Yes from you. That's right. I am. And in this video you were playing the Apollo creed athletic character. I was the underdog lovable round underdog rocky Balboa, and as we recreated this is it on Instagram Twitter. Now is it everywhere where people can see it. It's on Instagram Twitter. I've seen it. Okay. And in there, there is a scene in which Billy is complaining that my hand. Just it was too vigorous on his. But Mike Ryan agrees. The finger. I described it as a bit Hansie which looking back at it. Now was a generous description. I'd say, well, I didn't realize until seeing the video how close I came to getting in there. Yeah. It wasn't. It wasn't the fun is the shoots. And there was some cutting because your your face was very close to my face at one point also. And I was like this is this is getting weird. Okay. Well, if I may and I'm sorry for your discomfort. And I need to offer a public apology on behalf of anyone that has dealt with employees before in my meager defense after running that many sprints Billy, and you came to hug me in the water. You came to hug me because you didn't think I was going to be able to run anymore sprints or that. I was going to have anything left in the tank to do another in water celebration. You came to me before we were supposed to celebrate. You caught me off guard. I'm exhausted. I'm delirious. I've won the race and falling down. I did not know that I was that close to really coming in there. Horrible freezing. Yeah. Raising. I can't see the tips of four of your fingers. Dan enjoyed it so much he kept asking one more take. He wasn't gonna make one more take. Honestly, we were not supposed to be celebrating at that point. It was planned out. And we were then going to go into the water and a separate take. But I realized when you collapsed in the water that you'd be completely soaked, and we weren't going to get an actual other take because you're totally soap. So I had to you know, then go and then great improvisational work. You you really took one for the team there. Thank you for being such a a soldier willing to endure. Everything everything really. And thank you for sharing your story. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living, most of her life in the dock inside the other nesting Dole's. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly, she has no brain, however, when in a most nesting dole. Here's the gyco not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer. Piteously in a most nesting Dollond her lot in life. Dr lebatardshow, you can't have fun when you're old. Stugatz. Look at me. I'm having a ball. Mona VC's are show with his two guys on ESPN radio. Greg go whenever you want. It's ten seconds. You can throw away things during the brainy ones. You're not on download the vivid seats app and enter promo code champs at checkout to get ten percent off your first order don't buy just any seat, get a vivid seat. If you haven't tried the delicious high-quality meat from butcher box. You're going to be blown away. Sign up today. Butcher dot com slash Dan and get three ground beef for the life of your subscription and twenty dollars off your first box. That's Greg Cody of the Miami Herald, bringing his special brand of incompetence to our Tuesday's, thankfully, I'm only dealing with one of him today. Usually it's him ends to God's rodeo clowning their way around here, but we make up for it because Greg will be back on Friday. All right that and he also will be, you know, reincarnating the ghost of Stu guts, if you're not familiar with this character. It is a blowhard taker that it's mostly a visual joke, but Greg Cote, he's got opinions that he will be delivering from the gut with the gut because I believe we were making fun of a reporter Marcus helped me out here. My I don't know close enough in which he said in his gut. Kevin Durant was leaving. And so we were wondering about the idea of the gut as a news breaker because that's not news. It's just someone giving you their opinion. And so still guts is gonna make an appearance here in fifteen minutes. Greg, Cody, you're going to want to be near ESPN news when that happened. It wasn't deed, Marcus Thompson of the athletic baiter, and that gut just got off a four day cruise. So that gut is full. Yes. That gut has been gorging and that Mexican crew. Who's Cody is dying. He's been coming in here dying to talk about the Mexican cruise. But I think I'll feed him a little bit of his other self involvements here. Mike are you aware that a minor league? Baseball team is having a Greg Cody day. How did this come to be? I've caught win that there's a minor league team in the state of Florida that wants to have a Greg Cody day. I don't know if this is official or not I do know that overtures have been made. Overtures have been made the Fort Myers miracle a class a affiliate of the Minnesota Twins reached out to me wanting to have a Greg Cody day, I thought it was a joke. I thought it was a buddy of mine disguising his voice except that. It was an Email. So, you know, I knew it wasn't Joe. But. It turns out it's true. And we've been going back and forth. We're trying to settle on a date. It's gonna be sometime in July or August. So. Wow. Okay. So we're going to film that as your son going to go with you. You're gonna make it a family event a single a that sounds like one of the saddest things I've ever heard. Isn't sound sad to me. It sounds like a wonderful experience. It's going to be great. I got to work. I'm throwing out the first pitch. So I gotta limber up the old wing and bobblehead. I hope so that'd be. Yeah. What else goes into, you know, they're giving out like, Greg Cody shirts to the first five hundred or thousand fans. They expect five hundred. Oh, yeah. They they they they say the show is very big in the Fort Myers area. I can back that claim up. We can get five hundred people out there. Chris can you give me the median age of Fort Myers. What are the oldest cities in the world because I just came back from Palm Springs, and the number of people there where the median age was death was amazing to me. I've never I've never been to a place more suited for witness protection than Palm Springs, California. In terms of just the sheer number of old people is Fort Myers, high ratio of old people more Saint Augustine Florida's just littering the top ten it's all over the top ten cities. Even highly is on this list. We love for Myers. We have a good friend in Fort Myers beach. Meet the median age in the US is thirty seven point four in Fort Myers. It's thirty nine point nine ago. Anyway, so that's coming to you. As people continue to waste their time and money with resources poured into the stupidity around this show. Speaking of wasting your money on things can you guys? Tell me about this. Antonio Brown ad. It's not an ad. He's being paid five hundred dollars to leave personalized messages from his pool that barely make sense. It's very insincere no-one should pay for this. I don't know why Tonio Brown is out there in his blond moustache trying to grab five hundred dollars at a time from people with poorly crafted videos. All right. So the idea behind this. It's an app also website cameo, and it has about six thousand five hundred talents to choose from where you can get a personalized message for feet. Now. The fee varies on the celebrity. I've seen the 'Antonio Brown one. Which made me laugh? I also saw Wesley Snipes one that made its way to the internet. And that one's a barrel of laughs. So we are trying to get the sound cleared on both of these things, but it's hard to do because these are pay services, we should pay if we need to to clear this out just so you guys can. Here. How not worth it is for an Tonio Brown to not try his way through a message while in his pool, then he wished somebody both happy birthday and anniversary happy second anniversary wedding. Oh my God. This is the kind of thing Jose, Ken, invented as a money maker. Okay. So there's some real bargains on this website. We can get a personalized message from Seahawks wide receiver Tyler Lockett for just thirty five bucks on it are can we do some of these can we maybe what is our budget. Can we just start right now having these athletes does what they'll say what we need them to say within limit? I guess within limits. Corey Feldman can be head for a hundred and twenty two dollars. Stugatz has got to be on his website. Right. Like, let's secretly. I I'm guessing ESPN people aren't allowed on there. And once you open the door for one ESPN person, they're all gonna crawl through it to try and grab the five hundred dollar. Norman Donald can be had for a buck fifty who's the cheapest guy a buck fifty a buck fifty one hundred fifty dollars. But it would be funny if it would be on brand for one dollars. This should be a dollar fifty would be a book this. This doesn't surprise anybody. You can have Brett farve make a personal. Oh, wait. This was the website that he got hat on. Right. Isn't who speaking in code is this a one because remember he did that personalized message and a white supremacist group like snuck in a bunch of code, right? Well, that I mean, you can have them for five hundred bucks. Mike. This is what I want to find out how quickly Darren rebel thirty nine dollars. It is damn near impossible. I feel like we can get one of those for free. We can have Darren reveal do one for free for us. That's hilarious. It's a chronic listener of the show we need to figure out here though. My I'd like to figure out and this place is is like trying to move a battleship. It doesn't move quickly when it comes to spilling resources, but for a couple of hundred bucks. I would like these guys to do some of our rejoins at some point this week where you've got Tyler Lockett Tyler Lockett, bringing us in from break on ESPN. How many hundreds of dollars can we spend just buying the lowest rung of. Insincere flattery from these people. Well, we have that whole incident where we paid for the naming rights sue hippo couldn't actually get the naming rights, and that's really taking a chainsaw to my whole budget. However, good news, Dan, this battleship is moving a little bit. We did get the sound cleared courtesy cameo in keep in mind. This is five hundred bucks per message, and within Tonio round that money actually goes to charity. This is the message happy thirty eighth birthday. And I hear this anniversary. What? I been working really hard as a defense attorney and your birthday is here. Happy birthday. We celebrate you today of your birthday as Bowman. So was it a birthday and anniversary or wedding? Congratulations on you being a defensive Turney. Either way. Hope it's all booming. Okay. I I'm telling you that paying for that unless you're doing. So for the comedic purposes of it has to be a great disappointment wasn't one of the comments. Hey, can you do this better? Please wasn't one. Now. The comments section of cameo is dirty place to spend your time. But wasn't one of the comments the idea of? Hey, we need you to do this over it kind of stinks. Wow. Brian Urlacher five hundred forty dollars because he's a hall of Famer. Oh boy. Oh, well, you know what though? This is funny. Alison, we should tell this story. How things change when you're hall of Famer because Ed Reed used to be super available to our show stupor available, and then he became a hall of Famer, and we text them out. And he's like giving us a team of people that we need to talk to now on. Yeah. Caitlyn jenner. This is the most expensive one that I've seen thousand dollars. This is a fascinating website. I I want to do this for the rest of the show. And I wanted to just start calling these people I want to on air transact. Hey, Tyler Lockett, their years. Thirty two dollars say something for it. We can get better leads aim for five hundred donlevatar when did we stop? And why did we stop throwing rice at weddings? I think it's been fairly recent. And there's a specific reason for it. But I'm not sure what it is. I think you could put an eye out by throwing rice. That's that's for starters. I think it had something to do with being bad for birds. It could be wrong still guts, you know. I think that is it plus uncle Ben objected to it as well. It's a misuse of his product. Okay. Uncle Ben's converted rice is high minded he wants it used for a pilaf. You know, just for a beautiful side dish on not to be thrown like a rag DC's live with our show with this two. God's on ESPN radio. I have over the years, really rush. Greg Cody in a variety of different. Ways that have killed his credibility around here. But I have to salute him, Mike. His reads have been better than anybody's his his best in that chair where that share gets almost the most polished of talents. Greg Cody actually rises to the occasion and defeats the chair with regular regularity exempt. He forgot the read the billboards at the top of this was center. So sometimes it gets him but in its offense. He's presently not sitting in the chair. He's reading well. If you guys want to have him read, whatever sponsorships because we exist for the sponsorships if you want him to start that over can Cody hear me from the other room where he is preparing to be Stu guts coating. Can you read the beginning of that, please? Because we've got to take care of the sponsors though. The reason everything around here is free. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Guests on the Dan Le Batard show appear via the shell Pennzoil performance line. Thanks, greg. Get triple action protection for optimal engine performance with shelve e power nitro plus premium gasoline. All right. We went for the visual joke a little early here. If you're listening only to the show, you do not see that right now, Stu guts is there and ready to give takes again. This is a character that we have created air that is dangerously low on those genes, look, we need to be careful here. Mike because we're going to get Disney in trouble for pornography. If we go one inch down on on that gut. We are awfully low were awfully low there. There's some landing strips centrality. All right anyways. Here we go. This is this a character. That is now breaking news from the gut because we've told you before that journalism has changed and much of what you see on ESPN is just a bunch of people speculating. And giving you their opinion and gas bags passing off news. That's not news as news here is to guts to give you the latest information from the gut go head to gut. I have a gut feeling Duke zone. Williamson is going to be a monumental disappointment. In the NBA kid can't even wear a sneaker. Right. He's going to be such a draft bus. He'll get a nice gift basket from Sam Bowie. How about that? Defrocked? Montreal elewa. Johnny Manziel is going to sign to play in the alliance of American football. And be the league MVP this season. He'll play the team coached by Steve Spurrier because that's the only person on the league I can name of of Trent. What's his name? Dwayne Wade will change his mind and his last dance farewell season with the Miami Heat won't be either d Wade will limit crazy misunderstanding in claim he meant all along that this season would be the sort of an endless three year. Farewell tour like Elton John tiger, Greg. Greg hold on a second. Hold on. How is it that you've turn this character into a terrible lounge? Ac that's clearly reading like how at look I do you mean clearly reading. I'm a ventriloquist listen to me, you're reading. So clearly that your guts not doing anything in the way of performing and talking because you're so interested in reading correctly, and you're just sort of blowing through the the terrible comedy line. You wanna you wanna start again in sound like you're reading slightly less. Tiger Woods will boldly predicted. He can still catch and pass Jack Nicklaus for career majors. That'll be from an interview given in two thousand and forty-three when tiger is sixty eight neck and back feeling better. Tiger will say swing is getting close the latest. The Lakers will make the playoffs because LeBron James. We'll take over himself and take almost all of the shots on his team. Averaging fifty six points the remainder of the season and stealing the scoring title. From harden? Baseball umpires will not be calling balls and strikes in two years. It will be all laser technology. Close plays at the plate will be decided by the first base umpire, who'll do double duty gut feeling Peyton Manning. We'll replace Jason Witten in the Monday night football booth and for one season and then like Whitten come out of retirement zoom his NFL career. How about that? All right. That's enough. Thank you, Stu gods for just a truly terrible performance. Was he given me was he given any coaching now drink water right now. It's visually after he's making all these Radha tat tat terrible. Mike. Did anyone read that copy before he got out there to just do a terrible lounge at why didn't he have a rim shot or something? He made Stu gods into Sheki. Green goes an eighty year old comic that just. Donlevatar you could get the delicious succulent ham shank, or but portion they said but portion and I thought to myself, I eat the, but but I don't want to know that I'm eating the but portion still God's is the but portion a delicacy some sort it very much is I can testify to this. The cut of me when I make pulled pork slow cook a pork rose to make pulled pork. The cut of meat. I use his called the Boston. But so it's the delicacy I eat, but all the time. This is not live at our show with a two guys on ESPN radio. Happy fifty third birthday to the playmaker. Michael irvin. Happy birthday to him. I don't care. Good luck. I could talk about this, dude. For awhile. Greg Cody was covering him from the very beginning when he came through Miami. Greg Cody wrote a. Column for the Miami Herald about Michael Irvin's relationship with his late father. And he was an electrical wire the moment that he arrived in that huddle. It was crazy in terms of collegiate personnel. My gosh that he's been living for thirty years off of a character. He began to craft here in in Miami thirty what are we looking at here. Thirty five years of Michael Irvin. The playmaker. Stick working. Is it a stick? Is it a character because that seems pretty authentic? I've never seen him. Not be the playmaker. He was like that from the beginning. He didn't have to grow into his role. The first time I interviewed him was over breakfast at Denny's right across from the campus. And I bought the breakfast, which probably violated a dozen NCWA rules. But he was that way from the moment. I met him. You know, he grew up in a huge family. I think he's one of sixteen kids or something like that one of seventeen. Yeah. And so maybe he had to be sort of out there and up there too. To be heard or whatever, I don't know. But he was always like it's hard to explain to people. How crazy is career was because this diluted version of bad boy Antonio Brown painting, his mustache blond and getting in trouble. And social media is not quite what Michael Irvin was dealing with in Dallas when they were at the height of the sport winning championships getting arrested coming out of strip clubs going to lunch at strip clubs and Michael Irvin. As as an as a personality, I remember being at his mother's house as the newspaper arrived on their lawn. With the headline police officer arrested for trying to put a hit out on Michael Irvin. Over some details involving a police officers girlfriend, and I'm like what kind of life is this. It's not cameo in the pool in the off season is a bad. Boy like you want you want bad boy stuff. And I hear this a second anniversary wedding. Like, the the bad boy has really been diluted at the position when we made the descent from Michael Irvin to Randy moss. This guy with the blonde moustache of your birthday as Bowman you mentioned going to Denny's with Michael Irvin. What does he order there is he a moons over Miami guy a grand slam guy? What did he get considering? It's probably been thirty years thirty two years. I can honestly say I don't remember give nothing. Nothing surprising, though, that you would go with the cheapest possible meal trying to wine and dine it's cheap as possible breakfast. I I love a sampler there. You know, what I went to Denny's a couple of weeks ago, and it was the first time I went to a Denny's in years, and I was really disappointed to find out. They've really scaled back the pies we used to be such a highlight to walk into a Denny's and peek into the glass refrigerator and see which you were taking home that night the displays gone and check the menu, no pies. I used to be renowned for their pies. I'll tell you what I'm over. I hop guy myself love the all put it on the poll. You gotta put it on the poll Denny's or I about Ojok hopscotch to original house of pancakes slowdown there would face just back off for a second show over here. Why does it have to be either? Or why can't we like both? You gotta pick. Yes. I take a side, man. Yeah. You can't be a mental a Yankees fan put that on the poll as well. Can you be both an ihop and Denny's guy and Furthermore put on the poll is Denny's the cheapest possible meal? No, no, no, no, no, Taco Bell offers incredible value also has a lane that Denny's also caters to if you catch my drift. Don't drive in that lane. But Michael Irvin's career seriously. Honestly, I I want to tell the American audience given mind I have been a player apologised all my life. I have been there writing the magazine stories on Tarallo ins and Chad Ocho, Cinco urinating on sportsmanship terror. Loans will cost you three hundred and fifty dollars on cameo. Well, what's happening there where negotiations here where do we get some money? We call fos who can give us some money. I don't wanna hear that. Our budget has been eaten up by that hippo donation that had to be made swallowed up as a as a hippo eats watermelon. That's the exact example. I would give you right now. I mean, we're probably looking at a lower tier if we want anything, Omar Gooding Kubasak brother two hundred dollars. That's overprice. Come on really starve playmakers. Star of playmakers. I mean, he was main storyline. Yeah. It was. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know that Zach Galligan you may not know him from his name. But you definitely know his face from gremlins thirty nine ninety nine gremlins. I got somebody here. Making fun of me. How old you have to beat a reference checking green, and I went comedic -ly there with the funny name of a comedian. That's on you for not knowing who shaking all you got to know who check green. You don't have to know who shekel green is ally. It no, no, I don't like my allies borscht belt. What were you trying to do with the stew guts, you were just barreling through the jokes? There was no you had no comedic timing. You are a funny person you would just rushing through the jokes of poorly written lounge act poorly written. It was a LAN Jack. I'm I'm I have the soul of abortion belt comedian. I should be in the Catskills in hundred forty five opening for shaky green. That's why I was destined to be I pitched this stem yesterday. And I tried to tell him that. Stugatz. Does this off the top of his head? You just gotta have bullet points and go it was so bad loves to pre right everything. It was terrible because he was pretty writing as opposed to just giving a sports opinion. That's a hot tank like you not hard that is to screw up. I feel like I can do it better than that. Next segment. Ghirma we can get Ashley Parker angel for fifty five bucks. A message. Is this actually Parker angel because a photo of him is just him and his underwear and duties cut Bill, you gotta put waffle house up there somewhere. Right. Same family of drunken wonderful food same family. Julie Stewart banks five dollars can get JSP. This is what we need to do. This is what? Cameo has to get a cut of this. So she's not even getting five dollars. She's probably getting a couple of dollars. I want to do it for a dime. And you're gonna get your money's worth out of me. Think my clubhouse leader right now is Bruce Vallance for fifty bucks. Clubhouse leader. I don't want to buy just one of these. I wanna buy several of them when you can get the sincerity that in Tonio Brown gave us from the comforts of his swimming pool where you can hear the cash register in the background just taking your five hundred dollars. He's wishing someone a happy birthday anniversary wedding happy thirtieth birthday. And I hear this a second anniversary wedding. Hope your birthday as Bowman. It's amazing to see you cameo. And remember each five hundred dollar purchase. We'll go directly to charity. What the hell happened Cody has been ripping the diva wide receiver for many many years around here. What the hell happened to the hardened tough diva wide receiver. You never know.

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Bye, Bye, Brown?

Highly Questionable

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Bye, Bye, Brown?

"Yeah. Hello and welcome to highly questionable. This man what you say on television yesterday about that he'd came bumpy. Oh, that's right. It was my carpet ride, buddy. I'm the only analyst he is that gave you the analysis before the game after game after again, anyone can do it very beginning to the show. What do you like the show time for that? He already talked for too long. Valid bumpy. Is really making a mistake by police in the possibility of trading, and Tony Brown is the Steelers owner, but beyond that he sort of a football name in every way. And of course, he would do it the old fashioned way. He would go to the Pittsburgh post gazette newspaper, those of you who are no longer reading those. And he would say that he cannot envision scenario wherein Tonio Brown is there, and I don't really care whether they get less form. I find it fascinating. That this old school owner just told everybody you will not nuke our season. No matter how good you are. That's not something we will have. And now take the calls, and everyone will know that in Tonio Brown is available. And if they get the right offer he will then trae him because the Rooney's liked to put their names on things. What is the newspaper gonna have to explain a little bit here? Someone throw it in my bushes. That's how I got that information really in the modern age, what is the newspaper. I don't know if art Rooney, however is actually telling us anything we. Already know we know it's difficult situation with Antonio Brown. And it's interesting to me with Antonio Brown. It's different than the Levy on Bill contract situation. Antonio Brown is just over eastern one years old going into next year. He doesn't have that much life left in his legs. And he's working with a great quarterback. But they continue to underachieve. So what are ruining is telling us? Hey, I'm gonna talk to these team leaders, and we're going to decide if Antonio Brown is still going to be on these team who are these team leaders if it's not Antonio Brown and Ben Rothlisberger. And what are they going to say, no get that guy outta town. We need more stability in the locker room. But we need to be worse on the football field. I'm not sure what they're going to do. But if they do trade Antonio Brown, they'd better get a lot back for that guy. We have to talk about. Bill. He's on Facebook over. These steelers. Weeks ruining train them already. Well, those Bengals plant hire sack. They say about the NFL. This is a weird thing because the NFL has rapidly gone from all these recycled morning wings and mum checks to hiring the same guy and every city across the United States where they need quarterback help. Just get someone who's got an idea of what Sean McVay is done with Jared Goff, and the lack of creativity across the sport that alleges leadership and wants you to believe there's merit in the way, they pick players in the way, they teach them. They're all doing the same thing. Someone's found innovation his name is Sean McVay. And so we're in a position where this thirty five year old guy. None of us know looks like all the other leaders across the sport is we're getting rid of all the way Philips of the world. Would you rather continue with all the weight Phillips in the Mike munch ex and the Jeff Fisher rumors? Or would you rather have some new blood in the league last year? The average age of the NFL coaches was fifty one years old which is younger than the year before it seems to be trending younger. And that's fine. I'm all in favor of getting the coaches to be more Representative of the. Players although the race thing is still a huge issue. But really really really Cincinnati. Do they care who their head coaches if they don't just try to move on from Andy Dalton I mean, he seems tired as Marvin Lewis at this point. So I don't know exact Taylor is gonna come in and make AB Dalton anything better. But does anybody believe that that can happen? So Cincinnati Bengals fans are probably sort of subdued in their excitement. I think if you're Cincinnati and you've shown over the years everyone else's running team that's trying to win and you've been running a business because you kept Marvin Lewis and Andy Dalton and charge while going oh and seven in the playoffs. If you actually cared about winning in a meaningful way, you would've said antidote in the way in the same sort of hot air balloon that you sent Marvin Lewis in at the end because he got renewed about four five times more than should have been so going to hire somebody that went to summer camp with your watch. Yes. That's right. And then though the next coach is going to go get him like kindergarten teammates and some sort of robbery situation. The Rams loosely. Cowboys the end to CS and for shock value, Wayne, then you just see our enthusiasm for Sean McVeigh, everyone in the league is trying to hire the next Sean McVeigh they can lose a game in a single game sample size anyone in the NFL can lose this weekend. But the entire Sean McVay phenomenon is based on only one thing, you can see all that creativity. And you could see all that space, and you can think that he's a genius. Because you don't understand football the way that he doesn't nobody at this table or many people in the media understand football the way that guy does however Jared Goff that is his solution to everything he made Jared Goff manner. And do you trust Jared Goff in a football team against the team with very good defense? I don't know if I do. But if he loses this weekend, it'll be part of the unraveling of system quarterback that he made around his system. I really hope the doozy. For Sean McVay doesn't Wayne because it's probably going to be a bunch of organizations firing head coaches that they just hiding the test you week, but it would be funny. With this game. You're getting Todd Gurley back getting them an extra week of rest after being injured and got Zeke Elliot on the other side this could turn into a running contest and could be low scoring game. That's what gives the Cowboys the best chance of doing it. And that Rams rush defense has not been great. So Zeke Elliott could have a great game. That would be funny if it's low scoring and rushing against rusher, and Sean McVeigh's Lincoln, they'd be I'm not that much of a genius. But he desperately needs a playoff win because it'd be oh in two at this point if he loses and so then the question Mark might arise, you know. The most wind everyone is going to dry too hard the next chase on. Put him on that one. Do the patriots film are vulnerable to you this year vulnerable is a funny one for him because it's Spanish and you say differently. He's doing this show and his second language again. We'll Nergal you see what happened there. There's a little bit of a hiccup there. I'm not the best person to ask here because I've been predicting doom for Tom Brady for about five years. I think he's won seven championships in that time. So I've been writing off the patriots. But this seems like a week team. They can't win on the road. And I believe the team that's going to visit them this time. Even though you might not believe in Philip rivers is more balanced than they are. This is exactly the kind of season. The patriots had to have for me not to trust them because they have looked vulnerable when they go on the road and the team they're playing here is better than the Jacksonville. And the mariota that we're going through their last year. I honestly just don't think you're loud to answer this question. Even yet, Dan, I know they look vulnerable. But you've got a Philip rivers coming in. Oh and seven against Tom Brady. And I understand that that defense, according to Gus Bradley did amazing things against the. Raven seventy Bs look genius. But what is the seven db answer against Tom Brady at home with an extra week to prepare. It does seem that he's more vulnerable. If only because of the fact he's facing Philip rivers and Hasley Andrew look or Patrick Mahomes in the next round. If it gets there's a posted a couple of quarterbacks that he face last year. But if you look at the regular season schedule they beaten the colts and the chiefs this year. So I'm not sure if it's fair to say the Tom Brady looks vulnerable this year. I don't think we can say it until finally Lewis Mon the three key Niki one. I don't sewn the Billy. Spell check not della cheat, I think that's. Sounded like would be based we go football for me. Kind of petered out is whatever during its item from passion into indigestion of some sort. We're done poppy. Now, you can't do it. Again. We're done. More than us. Meet the Moro butterick Mahoney. Surrender your love. We have szeswith the quarterbacks. The name is not Mahoney's. That's in Spanish, it's Mahomes. He's fifty touchdowns this season. But I really don't think this game is about the quarterbacks although Mahomes can lose. You wanna pe- starts getting Recco with the football away. Andrew luck doesn't. I think it's running game. The colts were able to manhandle the Texans along the line Texans three yards a carry all they allowed the chiefs up five yards a carry if you want to beat the chiefs outdoors against Andy Reid, keep the ball away from a homes, hold for forty minutes. That's the way you beat them. This is probably the most difficult question ever asked them this show. I cannot decide which one is going to be the bigger weapon in that game since week four the colts of scored thirty one points game. If you take out that goose egg against the Jags, which didn't really make much sense. Okay. So you know, they can score against anybody. It doesn't matter that it's Kansas City. Of course, cheats, has that poorest defensive could probably put up fifty in that game. But man, I have full confidence. Patrick Mahomes can. Carry that team out and score fifty five and still beat them. With tyreek hill getting all those yards after catch and Travis Kelsey getting all those yards after catch. He just needs to get the ball out of his hands and not in the colts players hands and that offense of the chiefs could give you one hundred right there. So I don't know. I can't answer the question. I'm sorry. Wow. That is not can we get someone else in here. Who can? Oh, I have a prediction. What's that? Oh, wait a minute. I'm sorry. I was I was going to nodding off there. We gotta get excited. What's prediction puppy? You really really public. This. We're ready puppy real ready. Hang on. Okay. Now. I'm not really really not ready. You're ready. Ever reading ready ready? Always ready. That's what I do. Right. One cares. Go to commercial nex highly questionable. George Russell areas would exactly as Mr. wrestle doing his training hitting curves at a high rate of speed. So he has strong neck muscles looks like he's trying to hold explosive diarrhea. What about this guy behind him? Look at that back there. Let's consider the secret life of the Imos nesting dole living most of her life in the dock inside the other nesting Dole's. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly, she has no brain, however, when in most nesting dole. Here's the guy co not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes, twitching tonight co is no brainer pity INA most nesting Dollond her lot in life. Do play the game that gets better with age. Do you quest you own you, give us topics events that we question what what's true for most of the table. Do you question? If Terry coin is an elite athlete. This is crazy question to ask because we all know he looks faster than anyone. He's playing against any super tiny. And those guys don't survive in the violently being super tiny. But he looks unbelievably athletic is he not at basketball. With the small guy that seven. Have to see that again. He's trying to do too much there. What was that? I could have blocked that Saudi deserve that right there. Right guys, wearing pant guy who was wearing pants, and I think workbooks living here the sound again that that made the sound that old pants and work boots. Cohen. Pants. Rick will never live this down for the rest of time. Oh my God. Even even almost. Hold on. Let's see against that. You guys can see Tariq Cohen three different times us by dude jeans. You don't play pick up at an LA, fitness, if your professional athletes, they're all out to get you just number one. And here's what not fast enough to prevent the lamb by old jeans and Dixie work would sky. Do you question formula? One drivers are on the right there athletes. Poppy, how does a Formula one driver trained? You know, how they train? Yeah. Sure. On their seats on their seats. Yeah. I suppose that's an accurate answer the question to train no on their seats. Yes. Let's check in with a Formula one driver whose name alludes me right now. George Russell areas would exactly as Mr. Russell doing his training hitting curves at a high rate of speed. So he has strong neck muscle looks like he's explosive diarrhea. What about this guy behind him that back there beardless Andrew lucked staring in judgement? I want you guys to watch this camera of this guy in the background. You get fixated on the guy in the front who looks like he's had a terrible accident. The guy in the vaccine what this clown doing these kind of workout these she see one is this furrier. This. Gator legend. Code ball. Coach. Question broadcast from the clear Lander hotel feel south beach Miami. Glazed again that this master at faking human emotions seat on. On. Oh, okay. Very good. Tell us what's on television. Tonight. We'll tell you for intrigue. Oh. Sunday on FOX equals and saints. Yes. Philadelphia got smoked last time. They played the forty eight seven and Michael bender whose had a crazy Goodyear was asked about Nick foles the quarterback who wasn't in that game saying that was the turning point the Wenski losing forty eight seven was the turning point. What is Michael Bennett think about that? After that saints game that really bottoming out it kind of led to what you guys became brought you closer together, you agree with that. What did you see happen? After that. I'm never disagree with new clothes. Show me from success. So wherever Nick says is the truth and. Okay. Thanks for playing for the eagles. Carson wentz. Is here. You intrigue whatever Nick says the truth, whatever poppy says about Nick moles is the truth. This is going to be the trade. Carson Wentz game. Right. If they win this game. It's official went this out to forty seven with. And then you don't lose with foale's won the Super Bowl. It's gonna make it difficult bumpier you intrigue CC, very treat. You know? Let me New Orleans Saints season this going to come to an end on Sunday. Bra that full. It's gonna get even for the eagles on this mart. My words, you know, what I made me. Do we will because we have? And you always take Nick foles, and he'll always wins. But again, that's my guy not this week. Tomorrow on ESPN plus Murray state in southeast Missouri state all of your saying, why would I be interested in this game? There's nobody on the court that I could possibly no let's see if you guys can spot the guy who is a little Russell Westbrook's. If you guys can spot, which guy on the court among these ten is the one who might be a top five picks if you can find Gama rand gonna give anything back door to them. That dude there who did not get the charge. That's six foot eight judical. And how about a face full of this is very much intrigued, I'm not gonna watch this game. Probably, but I'm very much intrigue about next year's NBA draft. This guy is going to be amazing and those three do player. It's going to be loaded. Can I see that again? I just wanna see that six fold down again, and how weak do you feel when you get a face full of that all show the call? Thanks. Beautiful up here you and tree. Oh CC. Very intrigued Murray Murray state is ever sustained by the name of Maury. Teach that in Hubei jersey, California. No Murray Murray. Hi. Are there must be a real small state? No. On a nest camera in both L, Washington a package delivery. No, the blink cameras support the Dan lebatardshow with through God's on the radio. So I will not be interested in this particular nest Cam, but I am interested in showing you the nest ham that reveals an incompetent package delivery. There is the kind of customer care, you can expect from the white van guy who is going to go against him on that way right there, by the way. That's how newspapers used to be delivered. Is there you intrigue. Again, I ask what am I answering? Yes. Or no to my intrigued by series of nest camera videos, if we're going to show me more than yes. Yes. More like that popular you intrigue CC beliefs in these worst thing that happened to ditch. This. Oh, you're tickling me. What? Takes dark turn right there. There's the dark turn it's funny right up until guy get stretchered off. And then becomes funny. Tomorrow morning on NBC, the today show, Bobby a lot of people were heartbroken for the guy that you call Cody pork, even though his name is Cody parkey, but he suffered in silence. No more. The today show is the next stop for the failed kicker of the bears. No as a kicker, you know, you live for those moments. And I was like you said I was I was three for three before that a lot of confidence going into that kick. So I went out there and. My long, snapper and holder did a great job. And I saw the win moving a little bit. I said this is where I'm going to play it. And obviously, I didn't know it was tipped or anything. I just went down. And I thought I hit it. Pretty good kick it up my foot and then looking up, and then I saw it hit the upright hit the crossbar on my shirt. Surely it'll go in. Unfortunately bounced towards me. But I am disappointed. I let the fans my team-mates and the whole organization down, but just continue to keep my head held high because football what I do. It's not who I am. Chicago hates that, dude. He's a peaceful person. He's a spiritual person. And oh, by the way, important thing. That was mentioned there. The ball was tipped. That's not his fault man is your intrigue. I think I know what happened here he got so much credit for speaking to the media after the game and standing up for himself that he decided to speak to the media for the rest of the season by the time training camp comes he'll be team hero again. No, he will not be they will hate him so much because he caused them the last season the guys who actually played football. And then don't go on the today show when their seasons ruin Popper. You intrigue CC ever kidding me guy became in TV is starting now that's play football anymore. He got his rounds. And everything we show, you know. Have you one thing that was ready for it? You know, practice of my own life football, these kick seventy seventeen. Over and over again, you know, he's the moon. I guarantee you that he'll be a millionaire billionaire he'll say they'll have to play football anymore. I I'm here to make on TV. Why no the mini happen? You know what? I mean. I'm the that that that take, you know, hit the crossbar than I thought it was going going. You know, you know, what I mean the holder. He's Joe by taking plan for you. Yeah. My name is Cody Porky and then you'll never forget. That's all the time. Whoever today. Thank you for washing. Get us. Yes. We'll see you loonies. A couple of more thoughts to share about goalie Porky, you know, the appearances for him to going to making movie right in book, the story of his life. His family came through the ranks. You know what? I mean all these struggles he suffered and all the things that he had to face, and he thought that he was out of the of his misery and overly. So he went back into the whole. So he's payback time for him. You know, he's done used by failing. You can make a lot of money. So he doesn't matter. How many times you've come failed? If you can capitalize on it. You know, you're going to work out with a lot of money being milionaire.

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David Vs. Goliath

Business & Biceps

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

David Vs. Goliath

"Get your mind off the fact that we're something like we're like when when someone thinks oh I'm somebody it's almost like indirectly saying lime owed something just by defacto rule of the fact that I'm somebody you ain't Shit motherfucker. That's how people get run out of business when they think they're somebody when you always odds of fucking hunt like David and Goliath analogy like David would have to fucking fuck with a guy like Elias always gotta be on the hunt for that little advantage that little that little back and and I think that is that's the essence of starting you don't in business and continuing in business and also as an employee you have to go out and fight the giants and you have to win dude or at least you got a fucking given bruises and you've got to bust up their body before you can knock them out but this is the game on this episode are are you dated or do you think your mother fucking alive think John Hey Goliath. Stop listening. Listen now warning fucking ass roasted listen we all have to approach our days in a very particular mindset food and I think that's what this show is about. We'll take the analogy and expound upon it as we my dad's great show was relative to what's up everybody you woke up to another episode of business and you better wake your ass up. Carr's on today's show. We're going to talk about being unmatched. David and Goliath going out to slay the dragon every day John. I heard you say every day. It's like that so I can't wait to hear your feedback on this topic Johnny Dude if anyone has a brain and and and they realize or they look at the macro level of of business or whatever the fuck they're doing. You're always outmatched meaning. There's always somebody somebody or an organization or many organizations or many people that are way bigger than you. That are way stronger than you have way more resources than can you so you are David. We are all David and every day it. It's how am I going to chip away a buck in goliaths Elias Achilles Tendon so buck in one day. Maybe I could shop that big motherfucker down right to the Achilles rate to the Arana. I love it. Hey y'all go to the karate. You know listen. If you want to track your karate you could go to whoop we give you fifteen eighteen percent off on the whoop membership and they send you a strap and you can track your sleep corey. When you say strap people can take it in many different ways. It's I strap on John. I say I didn't either. I didn't either rose to optimize your body. Okay is your body John Bosco Osco go to whoop. We're GONNA Lotte. They're going to get a lot of subscribers a your questions and we'll give you fifteen percent off because a lot of subscribers are going there. If you use the fastest Acti- biceps John Before we get to the topic I want to ask your two cents on what the rise and fall of not only as a person but as a terrible businessman in Tonio Brown what he what d-box debauchery just it just displayed bockel every damn I yeah so bad man okay so talk talk what he is guilty of everything. We talk about right. It's like having a huge ego like I'd like a huge ego. That's blinding having zero self-awareness not being aware of his surroundings not being aware of how people interpret him and how how he behaves in return and just simply not being aware of the fact that he is one human and one area of expertise football and everyone in every area of expertise. Wherever is replaceable doesn't matter how good you are when you become too big of a problem mm-hmm or you take too much of the attention and not only do you do that but you feed that you feed that machine. These these are the things that happen. I mean this guy many would argue is the best receiver in in the NFL. Obviously physical skills are absurd but he he thought that he was bigger than any team he was on. He was bigger than the league like I I heard a quote from him on hard knocks and he was you know he was a dog in Gruden or maybe it was on instagram when he recorded a conversation with Gruden and in Gruden was like you know. The coach of the raiders was like what the fucks going on. Are you going to play football or or or what's the deal and he says to me he goes. I'm so much more or than just a football player motherfucker. You're talking to your football coach. You stupid motherfucker. Your football coaches there. Did you coach you in football. He is not Tony Robbins. He is not not tell your football coach. I'm so much more than the he doesn't fucking care. He gets paid to fucking coach. You and football you stupid Egotistical Moron and then the GO-TO fucking bill ballot check the guy who's probably the most system oriented. I don't give a fuck how good you are coach. You are going to conform to my my way or the highway in a fucking second you go there and you make the ABC show well. Guess what you're gone dude and that skill that could have paid you fifteen twenty million dollars a year. You're out in the cold and the one skill you have in life because you've shown you're nothing but a fucking more on the one skill you have in life. You have fucking cut short and you've lost dude. You've lost nine figures just because you're an ego goal maniac idiot dude. I knew that you were GonNa have some amazing things to say about this but I never anticipated that it would. It'd be that good job because I was over here. Adventure Diet Dot Saudi Rob Dude who says to their coach basketball coach Oh. Are you gonNA come play ball tonight coach. I'm so much more than a ball player. Much more shot ought to fork up on the fucking field lace to fuck up and show me how you you you can play football because you're getting paid a lot of money motherfucker. I don't give the Shit Woo Hoo. You think you are Jesus crying. Laughing Stars Amazing. What I WANNA point out is. It is exactly what we talk about about here and that's why I wanted to bring it up because you think about the ascension is a a high draft. Pick a high a low draft picker. Whatever later later low low draft pick late around from an a no name school at Central Michigan or Western. Whatever comes into the League works extremely hard hard. All the things that we talk about you have to do right works extremely hard makes the team does the extras builds his confidence builds relationships as with this which would be you know the organization which is bordered place and in hones his skills at the most elite level but then something happened right then the believe in my own hype syndrome happens and that's where I really wish he could you'd go dude. I feel good about who I am but I was draft. Remember where I came from. Remember how I got remember how I got here. It is unbelievable to me that a guy who gets drafted in whatever six round is being an idiot enough to pass up thirty million on the table Bro. You're lucky at that drumming and you're GONNA make league minimum but to to let your ego each get you up to think that you're going to tweet and tag the NFL to say Oh. I'm not gonNA play football anymore because the odor's in the in the league yeah fuck this go go go go to. I hop good dude yeah and he's made him billions of marks slayer tweeted. He's like you're a fucking idiot in the NFL is going to go on like that's just the suck. The show goes on you ego maniac mother Fucker so here's a here's the thing though I think what true if you look at his career and this is just my personal opinion a lot of people especially with people with enormous egos they must be the big fish and I believe what happened is Juju came and Juju started getting mad had love from your. He's likable not only that he was Pittsburgh. I believe player of the year last year over that's starting to Tonio Brown Brown and the sign of a strong mind is like death. Fuck Yeah Man. I got a squad now. I got another but the sign of Egotistical Freak show is Oh my God. Maybe he's maybe he's going to be better than me. Oh I got to get out of here. Ben Rothlisberger has been good to me a dude bro. You have a magical career and then all of a sudden you start tripping because I believe Aleve you feel competition that that to me that to me is the mark of a fucking bitch but see even that situation happened so often often in day to day business workplace corporate structure so John. All of these things that we've seen so publicly from him and I and I agree I mean I'm a steeler fan. I agree with that. A hundred percent Juju not only was he producing was he likable from the organization standpoint. He's relevant with the suit with the young his he he plays video games on the cover sports illustrated with that and being like he in he's quietly humble so all of those things instead of saying Yo. This is the next dude coming up under in as a squad like you said we could murder this. He ran the other direction which ultimately was his just in Wilby his demise manage. It's really a little bit sad because you see the ascent ascending nature from where he came from in just this is everyone got to know. This like talent will only take you so far case in point right the fuck here in essentially only if you look at it like he was at a major uphill climb in reached the pentacle big contract. That's the best at you know even in his early thirties especially in this league you know people were looking at it as being old still thinking he's worth that amount of money and in all of it can be taken down just because you're feeling on yourself and you think you're sweeter than in everyone. It's unbelievable but it's taken down even greater men than fucking Antonio Brown. It deserves it. Hey there's there's always going to be a machine that churns out your paycheck. That's bigger than you. You know there's always gonna be something that will continue to go on without you. Every good structured organization is created to be able to replace people because has anybody knows who creates a structure or an organization people are GonNa. Come and go ensure. You're going to have some great ones that are going to contribute. Listen listen. If you think you're bigger bigger than the organization you will find out the hard way and he did well and I think the last wrap this forego the other one is Bella. Check was the nail now on the coffin to sue you know metaphorically is the fucking now on the coffin economy of name. He is the nail in the coffin dude because he said I mean look look at example well. Josh Gordon comes in. He's had a lot of problems but they can. He continually is attempting to get better and they're staying with them. Ab must have shown something Anthony. I heard Gronk talk about this before. No one's treated like a superstar in New England. Not Even Tom Brady he must've showed some of those qualities bill belichick says are you fucking kidding me. He's he's got the ultimate system plug and play. I mean literally the ultimate the only one that stays the same as Tom Brady and him everyone else's plugging play so broke his running lying but he has a running back named Sony and the Guy The guy fucking performs he can his system is so flawless and that's why to not have the awareness awareness that you're walking into the latest system met may maybe maybe an NFL history seriously and to think that you can behave in a me first manner when you got there. I mean it's it's literally like like the awareness of of like seven. It's crazy crazy all right so shifted. Let's shift into the intro of the David and Goliath thing John like Gimme a give me some feedback and some just statements statements around just how you operate with this. This whole mentality is i. I like where you're going with it in the intro so it's like okay. If if you're going to be an employee or you're going to start a business essentially you have to take you have to take something that is currently someone else's whether that's sales as an employee you have to go and make sales that your peers would make AAC because you're more aggressive your better ugo an an and you take them right but there's always gonna be fucking guys sitting up on the mountain top where the big producers who you know you're going to have to go after over a long period of time in a business. When you start off you have no customers zero so the money that is funneled your way through a customer that money would normally go to another business but why why is that customer now going to blind item that money to Your Business. You have to give them a phenomenal reason to to change their routine or were. They spend money to now shifted to your new fucking idea because what's behind your new idea. Just your your new fucking idea so will you come out of the gate as not you are nothing. I think this is such a healthy mindset especially this day and age where everyone thinks. Is there something once they've done. Something like you are nothing and each and every customer you get to touch whether you're selling something on on the phone in a business or you're starting a business and you're trying to acquire customers. You have to know you ain't shit. You're so every interaction so important because you have the opportunity to earn someone's business and that's that's just how it is it if we can get our head and get your mind off the fact that were something like we're like when someone thinks Oh. I'm somebody it's it's almost like indirectly saying well. I'm owed something just by de facto rule of the fact that I'm somebody you ain't. Oh Oh shit motherfucker. That's how people get run out of business when they think there's somebody when you always are on the fucking hunt like you know if you're gonNA use a David and Goliath analogy like David would have to be to fuck and fuck with a guy like Goliath. You always gotta be on the hunt for that little advantages does that little this little that and I think that is at its core. That's the essence of starting in business and continuing in business business and also as an employee you have to go out and fight the giants and you have to win nude or at least you got a fucking. Give them bruises and you you gotTa bust up their body before you can knock them out but do this is the game. This is what it is Janis halftime. I know you who's been then. Maybe Whoop Mass Rupe Hoop in. I don't know or to be honest. I've been doing a lot of dance to mightly bringing that back on well. Have you know listen. I've been tracking my dance moves because it's a cardio you know when I when I took John I'm I'm James Ellison. Go James Brown. I don't know about yeah listen. That's how I move James. I'm sorry I'm a little bit Taller Taller James but that's how that you can do the splits like James Brown. Yes I can't hurt my peanut. anyways yeah go ahead and you've use the code biceps over whoop whoop membership will dot com and it gives you fifteen percent off. You're able to track John actually actually how many calories that you're burning during that workout in early ads dad's it's able to spit out and let you know if you ever covered from that from your sleep data. Listen don't don't don't be racist because I'm white and you can't do that's reverse. That's reverse reverse racism and I'm not GonNa fucking stamp. You can't fucking matter what color you are listening to me right now. This is reverse racism. I'm going to report you to the fuck in sec see even though that has nothing to do with this and I'm more. Oh yeah armpits anyway was stopping racist I I can dance just fine so I will prove John. Through with strapped three point that my skills are more efficient going into through the analytic data about you. You are a fifty percent off if use the code by some cheese all right. Let's go to the show. Let's go as you're talking. Johnny it. It just keeps coming into my mind is strategy awareness execution strategy awareness execution because if you think about it you break down. Goliath Elias is really like the guy that was born big talented. Maybe easier way in in theory and in David's really the undersized person that like you said has to have every advantage every nook and cranny. That's been you know thought about it has to take spots spots and execute at a high level to even have a chance at right and I think that people have to this is just real life life stuff like everyone has situations where daily they should be operating in that David mentality because that's that's how you climb the ladder. A lot of people think well. I don't WanNA think about having strategy against my co workers at work. We'll fucking then. They're going to beat you like you're watching me right now and you're getting beat so why don't you why don't you have some competition and try this strategy because their strategies in your ass right now that motherfuckers has got the promotion and you know what he walked by your desk so ask you how you doing a fucking. You're pissed. You get it but guess what his strategy was better against the big guy. That's what it was was. That's what it is he had this lead shot and you wasn't the US fucking trip on and you think will one day. They're gonNA come over there and just throw to you. It Ain't GonNa work that way so you. I need to be mindful of the strategies to pick your spots in do these things to ascend to what you want no matter what system business you're building saying it's just part of it and I think if you're not mindful of this in thinking about it daily. You're fucked in their glide smash every day. She's listen. Listen listen. You're not big okay apple's big yeah okay Amazon's big. They're big the big. I'm not big. Core is not big. No one's fucking big so so to take this analogy and continue it. We're all we're all David but the problem is and I guess the question is do you wake up like that every day. Do you wake up black a WHO fuck. I can't make a mistake or I'm. GonNa get fucked up. A Antonio Brown thought he was Goliath but he's really David Johnny on the NFL is Goliath Brown in everyone else's David yes period and glide squashed him like like like but he wasn't aware that he was David and that's kind of what I what I'm talking about. There's always a bigger machine. Goliath is the big machine scene and man so much of this so much of this stuff is is is is humbling yourself man yeah so much of this stuff is humbling on yourself because dude a I mean there's a lot of people a lot of people out there who make good money or this or that and like their existence is like like to let people know they make good money and all this stuff and it's like okay okay that can last for a period of time. Abreau the Faucet the Faucet awesome turns off when you least expect it and if your existence is to show people that you've made money the the key word in that sentence is made. You know I'm interested in making hill I die and when I die that among my my name my whatever is still making making money so Yemen. It's a fucking mentality and I want everyone to think okay in the position. I'm in the business. I'm in the job. I'm in is there someone bigger and the answer is going to be yes and if the answer is yes you are David every day and and and if you're not if you're not ready to defend yourself in the most aggressive manner well you're gonNA. You're eventually going to get squashed. It's all John. The moral story is it's all rooted in daily humility just like what will said right. He said looking for humble people that are aggressive. Gra Her. I mean that that right there man that might be one of the best quotes on all the years anybody. We've talked to that you know whether if we interview interview Tim Ferriss. Et we've interviewed all kinds of athlete off and on we mean you've talked basic quote but but but but just hearing hearing it put a just connected just two things about. I mean it's just really it's just really spot the fuck on so spot on it was it was it was really good. I think it's interesting how Antonio Brown just our dialogue and bullshit in about that a mess suit thing just whole thing was such a mess and then but how it ties into exactly the unaware part of it that you know the the Goliath doesn't owe you anything in infact they will step on you every day of the week to keep being dominant and so that's where a lot of people think got fucking twisted up that that fight you have to bring that energy that excitement statement that fight every day in a confident but humble manner if you're going to get anywhere and I think that there's that is exhausting costing to think about for most people johnny in most people are GonNa fucking foul. If if if that's every day we have the ability to you know do great things. We have the ability to to be arrested. We have the ability to be positive. We have the ability to perform in whatever we do with energy and that's what it takes to commit to building something or building your career whatever you're doing. That's what what it takes every day and if that's an exhausting thought to you. Will you better change something or you're. You're just going to be You're going to be the guy who I've always feared. Being you know the guy who's interviewing for jobs at thirty five forty five fifty. you WanNa be that you want to be managed by some twenty two year old when you're fucking forty five you gotta take you'd better fuck and take the ship serious. Jason Newlove your boss Yeah. That's what they're going to happen right straight up. I mean but you know what the the same David Goliath thing the thing that POPs in my head. I want to share his that not only was I the six-man on my basketball team like actual. I always felt like twitter that was fighting for a spot. It never was easy for me. No matter what some board I played no matter what lifting area I was is in no matter what show I did. I always felt on the borderline outside that I would have to work. You know twice as hard as the guy that may be got third place to just get fifth in honor of that's partly my perception of partly of just what can happen like everything I did. I was always he's one guy out or right on the edge and I think that that mentality of understanding that for some reason that was my path on an invasive everything everything that I've I took that into the workforce daily understanding that hey that I'm not the only way I'm GonNa Crack. The starting five five is by being that David that underdog that like literally one of my favorite cartoons when I was kid underdog literally like I I just always have felt that way inherently in in it's like I was behind the eight ball. You know the one that's the afterthought even Nama even like growing up just being included in things maybe as like the outside of the cool group. It seem like across the board. It was always that way so that but these are things that you know from being a kid playing sports lifted weights competing. It's just of always taken that approach that I'm naughty starter and if I think if you order that's so I don't know it's interesting but that's that's always kind of happened happened. whether it's common core there's only five starters. You know what I'm saying so everyone listening here. I doubt they were one of them. Yeah you know he's an most people. Aren't you know I in that cream of the crop and what I what I see. A lot with the people who are in the cream of the crop is a lot of natural gifts get people in those positions but natural gifts sure there stewarded and they're and they're built with with a lot of hard work but most people who are naturally gifted don't don't really prescribe described hard work because they feel they don't need to because they got to a place in the starting five but they weren't aware that it was only high school basketball about the NBA but they got into the starting five because they were naturally gifted at that point in life now maybe if that person who got into the fucking starting five realize. Oh Shit I'm good but if I work my balls off I might play college basketball and if they took that same attitude college maybe they would actually monetize thing doc and go to the NBA but I think a ninety five or more percent of the people listening. They're no different than starting five e e. It's all about putting that work exactly exactly and so. I guess really my main point. was that because that kind of happen on accident. Essentially it really was such a blessing blessing to me because it made me just hungry for so much more in not only that. I feel like that from an athlete standpoint. I felt like that obviously from you know. I don't know just having less than what everyone else did around me. Even in my situation living in the country I was still on the low end of what was happening and so it's like those things are just like the kind of common denominators of what put that you know kind of. I think the life or I'm sorry David Good mentality in me daily that still carry an I still think people are against me and don't think I can succeed and I play these head games whether they're true or not not anymore. They've just continued to work and we talked about that before but I think that's all part of that. David do holiday carrying it out each day and you know people should really Kinda. Take some like it tastes inventory on this type of stuff. I think you're not listen. You're not living. You're not living like David if you get comfortable you know what I'm saying. I don't give a folk hawke who you are or what you do. If you're comfortable with where you're at like comfortable you're going to lose what you have because there is David's bids everywhere and they will come for you. They will necessarily come for you but they will come for something in your area and the more comfortable you are. You're the more at risk you are of being taken out. I want people to understand this at. I don't want people to have anxiety and go home. I go no no I. It's about committing to a work ethic and a mindset on a daily basis but once once you think you've made it somewhere oh come on just read just read educate yourself on the fucking rise and Fall Antonio Brown thought he made it somewhere on the rise and fall of people people who get to that place where they say I me I'm good okay. Okay man that that that that's dangerous injuries so you gotta you gotTa wake up uncomfortable you know in a positive way saying you know. I'M GONNA. I'm GonNa work towards something. Once you stop up feeling like you gotta work towards something. your purpose is lost when your purposes lost your faulk and that's the pursuit that's really with that movie the pursuit of happiness that's people don't understand sometimes it's over. That's actually where all the happiness was not actually when you get to the end so but good stuff johny good stuff man. Hey you know it also has good stuff is whoop I mean. I don't know if you're aware John Yeah. I'm aware they know you are aware mu passing in writing analytics for years. You've been hooping for years. You've been whooping only for a couple of weeks by we give have you fifteen percent off the Wu membership and they send you the strap and you get used biceps as your code and you can track your sleep data. You can track your calorie. Optimize your body Korea. I am optimized like Optima optima prime dude that hucker it here and the reason I'm optimus. Prime is clearly because of whoop so I asked this prime and I'm talking optimus prime not from these new stupid abid fake. CGI fucking Shit Hollywood movies. You'll I'm talking. I'm talking about the fucking toys. I used to fuck and have eh dude cartoons on that optimus prime. I don't know about this new. Shit Jon Quick Story and then we got around the I got the optimus prime transformer when I was a kid. It was like the only thing I got for Christmas so pomp. I took an never forget this one of the saddest days my life. I took it to school. I had it set on the out of server. This explains the added sit on the on the bus seat and we hit a bump in the motherfucker fell off. It went to hit the ground. Both arms broke off dude. I was so offset John my mom probably really struggled by that for and I broke. 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Hour 1: Antonio Brown

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Hour 1: Antonio Brown

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Because I know you guys are largely tired of everything on bell and in Tonio Brown related, but for a moment here, I just want to marvel with you the country. On what happened here? Just so that we're clear on what happened here. I know you're tired of Antonio Brown. I know you're tired of him being a total clown show. A bit of a non team player. You might say a bit of a jerk bit of a clown. But let's examine for a second. The macro. A thirty one year old receiver under contract with no leverage under contract for several years. Decided through social media. To nuke the team of the Rooney's and football and the Pittsburgh Steelers. He decides to nuke this even though he's under contract. He doesn't have any real power. He just has the power to make a mess. Now. The next thing that has to happen is the Rooney family first family of football has to get out of the way because Al Davis scarecrow kid has given to media members a whole bunch of power to people. He picked off television to just pick them off television. People who are around football talking about football. I'll take may Aachen grooten, right? Those are two guys who already traded number one receiver not as good as this number one receiver leads everybody in touchdowns the last few seasons. But Antonio Brown has just ended up through social media as very bad diva a very bad rebel, a very bad martyr in terms of being under the thumb of the man and the mustache. This dude got exactly what he wanted. And the Steelers got bleeped the Steelers did not get what they wanted. The raiders got what they wanted Antonio Brown just rigged the system, and it was like watching a clown car show up in front of the Pentagon a tiny clown gets out with a blond moustache and the Pentagon crumbles like this is the Pittsburgh Steelers. The first family football. He makes a mess on Facebook. Nobody can control him. He gets everything he wants location. Now, you ain't trained me to the bills. I thought of the bills are you saying they botched this. I'm just marveling at how what happened is amazing. It really it should be the playbook if the broad could do what he didn't took ten now every diva wide receiver in the league has the playbook just make a mess. These teams can handle that did they don't know what to do with the social media. They're too old. They're there to stuck in their regimented establishment ways and the Rooney's get scared by the social media guy. What? What happens the Steelers get bleeped in Antonio Brown gets everything he wants. And Furthermore, another layer of this more complicated. The two black guys with the Steelers. Having a problem that they were willing to extend rothlisburger early. Ropley they've got a policy don't extend people early. They did it for the guy who's got a lot on his resume. That's worse than what in Tokyo Brown and Levy on bell have on their resume. If you don't think that's a problem. You ain't paying attention to any race relations in the locker room when the organization sides with the quarterback and extends him outside of policy and won't give the money to the other guys one of whom was dramatically underpaid. Antonio Brown was dramatically underpaid for four years. He agreed to that contract though. That's fine. But that's the rules in a league that shouldn't have a salary cap. He grade to that contract with the contracts are inherently unfair. And you're right. He should have honored the contract that would have been the more professional way to do it. However, you tell me if he got rewarded for honoring the contract. I mean, listen he went from zero guaranteed dollars over thirty million guaranteed dollars. He got exactly what he wanted you rising. It's crazy a clown car. Just knocked over the establishment. Because this look ryen russillo was asking this question on Twitter because everybody's gonna take sides on this nonsense. He's he's saying here. I've. Been trying to think of the most conversational way to ask this question. Do some of you think the players never wrong in the way, they go about trying to change their situation. I'm starting to feel that way Antonio Brown was wrong. But he just got rewarded for it in the most spectacular way when no leverage. Here's thirty million extra guaranteed. You can leave and you can go exactly to the west coast. Like you want? Don't you think most teams though with all that said everything a Benz past Antonio's past? Are you think most teams side with the quarterback? I mean, that's that's the most important right now at this point Antonio Brown is better at what he does than Ben Rothlisberger is at what he does and his younger, and is more valuable given his contract situations, you can make that argument in front, but it short-sighted the Steelers just nuked themselves for several seasons here because they are taking a cap hit on this as if he were still on the team like the Steelers got bleeped here up and down bleeped by two guys. Ben Roethlisberger's thirty seven years old. We've already seen his production. Go down. He's certainly not. The same quarterback, especially on the road. He is now pushed away 'Antonio Brown someone that has helped extend his career a career that Ben Rothlisberger doesn't seem fully committed to because he can't give a straight answer as to whether or not he's going to retire because of health reasons would be with his family. He's there's some far vibes. Here doesn't want to help the young quarterback sort of has an attitude problem just been accused by a former teammate of fumbling on purpose when he didn't like a play call in an ten point game in the fourth quarter. These are things that if they followed a quarterback that looked like say in Tonio Brown would be a bigger issue, especially when you consider the past that somehow Ben Rothlisberger has largely gotten away with and hasn't really had stick to him in a way that it might have if the quarterback looked like Antonio Brown. You can't reward this behavior you because it was a total clown show. We have not seen an athlete behave. This kind of unprofessionally. You know, the game long time any just got everything he wanted only because he was willing to make a mess. This is weird. Normally, you're the guy, that's pro athlete and chaos and against the establishment. And you seem to be on the Steelers you are so wrong about this. What I'm saying is you don't have to take a sign and Tonio Brown Ken be wrong. But the system just rewarded him. I don't care whether he's wrong, right? I'm more fascinated that football for all its rules all its discipline. We're going to be tough. We're going to be stronger than you. We're going to be more of a man than you. We're going to go into retirement limping and die early. Hey, never mind. We just lost to a small clown with the terrible mustache, which just loss. We just kicked our bleep up and down the field between doing mass singer and dancing with the stars. I love it. I think he looks perfect through what he's doing is great. I'm not disputing the great. I love it. I just think that he the pioneer is a clown. And I love all of it. I love the energy in it. Because all the contracts you believe in think about the coach. She has he just trampled a drill. Sergeant. Just trampled him here. Never mind. The rest of your career here is not going to be a whole lot fun pioneer. Mcdonald's is Ronald and our great for him. It's a great point. It is an excellent point. The pioneer mcdonagh. I put it on the poll better clown to lead movement. Ronald McDonald earn Tonio Brown. Let's consider the secret life of the INA. Most nesting doll living most of her life in the dock inside the other nesting, does she has plenty of time to think if she could Saturday she has no brain, however, when most nesting dole, his gyco, not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer pitchy in most nesting Dollond lot in life. Dr lebatardshow is the number of people who would risk certain death to go to Mars staggering because I don't believe it is still God's. Although now thinking about it. Wait, can I get famous is there an appearance fee? What is Mars pay is an appearance fee? I could colonize an entire land of content where I storm around and teach all the people of my primitive ways, I start sports radio and more. It's just you and no microphone listeners are going to be a struggle at the beginning. Maybe we don't know. Really? Right. Maybe we'll have the number one show on live at our show with as to God's on ESPN radio. We'll talk to Bill Barnwell at eleven o'clock eastern about what just happened to the Steelers. And how rare it is what just happened to the Steelers just know if you're listening. I don't know how Billy heard from me that I was anti Antonio Brown. When the only thing anyone ever years for me is that I'm player apologised, and I defend athlete misbehavior. I'm saying both things can be true. He could be acting like a clown show and be wrong at every turn. And yet still the reward is he gets it right at the end with the only thing that mattered dam, which is getting his pay fixed and ending up somewhere else. If he had it was horrible tone. I'm with Billy. I I had a tough time deciding you met at the Steelers humanity. Tony anybody? I'd love. You'd have to be mad at somebody. You have to take a side radio come up. I'm all for anything happening in sports that has Mike Greenberg. Tweeting don't hate the player hit the game. If that whatever happened good. I don't understand. Why bad leader follows Aaron Rodgers around and not Ben Rothlisberger. I mean, it's anyone else confused by this. He's pushing weapons away thirty seven years old. He's throwing young receivers under the bus constantly. He has passed. He's just been accused of fumbling on purpose. He always fought with his offense. Am I am? I crazy here having this conversation. Well, when you stared his hand there are two rings on it. There Rogers has one is to the threshold is that the tipping point to not make this a national talking point. He should be displaying better leaders. I think I might be right on this look at what to rings his gotten Eli manning people discuss ridiculously the idea of him in the hall of fame that second one is big man. I'm telling the second one is bid because Joe flacco. That's second ones the difference between getting in the hall of fame and not getting in the hall of fame. And right now, Erin seems to be on the bubble when Eli in I made a flacco at a second. He'd still be a raven. On the bubble. Right. I just learned something to that was unaware that Aaron Rodgers is on the hall of fame bubble. We don't make the rules here. Dan, just how it is. You have to rings. You got to go one on each handwrite. You said he had he had to on both. I would go if I had to rings them going one on each hand. That's fair you stare at his hands and he has to rings on those hands. Right. That's it doesn't matter where how he wears them. Well, let's figure this out for a second. Because I'd like to know what the Stu gods statistical scale is for the stuff because he's right when he says twos, a big one. But does this move across sports because LeBron James and shack have both been called underachievers by Stu gods? And they've got more than two. So is this a football thing. Yeah. It's a football thing. It's it's a different sport. Where in the NBA that one guy means so much to his team is organization. Rothlisburger is not out there all the time. Okay. Lebron is Rothlisberger has to rely on the defense. Lebron does not. So it's totally different. Lebron should have more and shack. Most certainly helped me understand. What your rules are in terms of position in sport and stuff, so two and football makes you golden forever. The franchise should side with you forevermore, you're too and football at quarterback if you're a quarterback, and you have two or more in the NFL you are set for life. You're go into the hall of fame, and you could stay with that organization for as long as you want. I think it might be right. I think that I think Mike you're wrong. You lose that Benz chine- rings have blinded Steeler management. They've gotten rid of all of their talent. They're going to be paying into new crown. Ton of money this year under the salary cap birds. What is it is it eleven percent of their salary. Cap is going to end Tonio Brown this year to keep the sealers keep taking fires on young quarterbacks because they don't know Ben Rothlisberger level of commitment for the position for the years to come and Ben Rothlisberger refuses to help them and takes a publicly combative stance against them in the media was the Steelers helped me here because the Steelers that a lot of funding stuff around them was the Steelers Villanueva thing the thing outside the locker room with a former service member who didn't want to be in the locker room during the anthem was that last year or the year before last I remember they fixed it last year, and everyone came and watched the NFL again because it's no longer an issue so Z year before okay because I want to go back to that moment in time and just like reconvene right there with Mike Tomlin and say, hey, what might you do a little different from right here from right here. The kneeling. You got a guy outside your locker room. You just told in the sideline report. You just told the sideline reporter we're going to remain in the locker room, and it's just going to be us. And then the next thing, you know, I mean there have rarely been three skill Blair's on the same team like these three guys and two of them blow up in your face. And now, you're just with the bloated Thirty-seven-year-old. You got you. I mean. Okay. Fair enough. He's gonna get sick. And as soon he's gonna get sick of it because everyone's getting sick of it there. He's pushing everybody away. He being Ben Rothlisberger. Open your eyes people and don't be blinded by the two rings, which is an absurd threshold to ranks. I mean, there are only three quarterbacks playing in the NFL right now that have multiple rings. Ben is one of them Brady and Eli they have job security for look at Eli. That's the perfect example. It's hard to argue with you when you look at ally when you simply looked at and I would I would say it's a bit of a stretch to call a job security. What do you I have? I mean the Steelers of one six Super Bowls begs responsible for half of them. I don't think it's a bit of a stretch to say that he lamenting has job security. He was out man. The people fired and then got gone already. And then they read. They didn't feel sorry for Joe flacco. Because one thing you know, what this argument has merit. I've been I've been flipped. I think got is right about this. You have to rings. You can do whatever you want, which is the sort you've made in Tokyo Brown bleaches mustache. And that's the reason that you've been able to do it the shine off those rings Brett farve. Zach got old. You know, why one ring? Exactly, right. Joe montana. Career as a forty nine. He went to Kansas City to rings. Many rings many well apparently to is threat over can get ready. You don't want to have too many Joe at four. Oh is that? Right. You don't wanna have too many? Okay. Steve young. Backing you up, okay. We gotta talk about this Jose gets. It goes story. We will do so next donlevatar punctuate this segment with what is your strike three. Call strike one. Would be sure. And then you stand up, and you have a good point to the right? Stugatz. That same for strike to strike three. You get down low. You got your hands behind the catcher? All right. The right arm goes up into the air. And then you finish it with the punt right on our way up into the air. See that. Does. This is our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. We had some fun at the expense of Antonio Brown who was charging five hundred dollars on cameo for very poor scripted messages that were insincere happy thirtieth birthday. And I hear this a second aniversary wedding. I loved it. I saw another one this weekend thought it was one of those cameo things. But it was just Antonio Brown. Telling Derek Carr, he was open. I'm not joking. He just comes out of the box with DC. I'm open. How do you think this is going to go friend Tonio and Oakland? Oh, he's gonna make a lot of money to go. Well. I think it's gonna go well in terms of production. I mean, he's got thirty million guaranteed to Dan sport. And then. Yeah. From a production standpoint, I think it'd be grazed not closer to the Super Bowl. But he got more guaranteed money on the other side of thirty. It's gonna go great because those checks are going to keep clearing. The raiders aren't going to go out of business before they go to vague vis a lot further away from the Super Bowl. But he's a lot closer to retirement. I mean, I mean, he's just closer to more money, which is what he wanted. Right. Yeah. Which at first it didn't seem that way. And then you realize that was a play here. No state taxes in Nevada which is where they're moving next year. It's just kinda hard for me to have faith at this will go well because it's the raiders for one. We have talked a number of different times with receivers like Steve Smith, Michael Irvin. Michael Irvin told that great store, you might have it. There of something that happened in the Super Bowl with him an Alvin Harper, but over the years, we have talked to all of the diva receivers, and in their most honest moments what you will get from them as I'd rather have the ten catches for one hundred thirty yards in. Loss than two catches for ten yards in a win. So stop making it about winning. And losing even though that might be the important thing to you the athlete winds when he cashes in in that sport with guaranteed money. But I'm not sure he's gonna get a catches. How am I supposed to reconcile what I saw with Mark Hooper? I thought Amari Cooper was washed because he just wasn't productive as a young player because because if it doesn't work there like it didn't work for Randy moss than two years from now, we'll have that same contract and he'll play somewhere else when Jon Gruden get blown out and may get blown out. He'll have the same contract and go somewhere else to play the end of a thirty three year old in the last year of a deal. But this was his time to cash in. It's why he did it with such deal. Like, it's what the reason that he did it is because of the way negotiations went with Ben Rothlisberger getting extended two years before they had to and they didn't do that for Antonio Brown. It was his absolute last chance ever to get thirty million plus guaranteed, and that's it took it in credit to the raiders because they were making some pretty confusing deals over there. Oakland. This is relatively low risk. They got him. If all the costs is money and a couple of food the productiveness of that guy is crazy. I can't believe the Steelers took this offer. I just can't. I'd rather Antonio Brown. Just sit than have a third and fifth round pick. I would he had to take the offer. He poisoned the well. And by certain reports, he wasn't exactly playing ball. With other offers that were out there. It's funny man with no real power. He had all the power, regardless. We'll leave it alone and come back to with Bill Barnwell in a second. But Jose Canseco, and I'm still waiting ESPN. Let's go thirty for thirty on just can take. Oh, he deserves it. If you're going to do it for Dion. You gotta do it for the stories knots. And so considered goes now on Twitter gamma where you're gonna go. She with Jose can can say on seeing aliens and Bigfoot, I'm pretty sure that legal's not gonna let that happen. Be idea of having multiple employees at an undisclosed location in the middle of the desert with Jose can Saco seems to be something that they're not. This is my father says his greatest enemy are ESPN and Disney's lawyer wait, their lawyers and security should absolutely be worried. Oh, they can Saco is promising you to see ski sasquatch is you're going to a special sasquatch reserve. You don't know how sasquatch is will act. These are very dangerous creatures that we don't know enough about. That's exactly right. I've had multiple conversations with other people and in my head, and these conversations have cover lots of issues involving safety, and if I will die on this. And then one of the things that I was worried about that. I was kinda hoping maybe we could get Jose on the phone to talk about beforehand is if he's encountered these big foot big feet. I'm not exactly sure the plural. If we ever do this poll. What is the plural of Bigfoot is it big feet or big foots? So if we were to see these big Foot's in their natural habitat, I'm assuming he's done this in the past. But I'm not sure the temperament of big feet, you know, and I don't know if he knows. The temperament of big feet. And he is familiar with big feeding, you know, like sometimes you see someone's dog, and they tell you this is the sweetest dog. And then a stranger comes in the dog kind of loses their mind. I don't know if it's the same with big feet. So I'm concerned that if we do encounter the big fee, which he says, we will what happens if they you know attack the RV that we're in how strong are the big feet. I don't know these things, and I don't know that he knows these things which is one of the concerning things that I'm assuming is going through the minds of the people at legal. Plus, we haven't even crossed the alien bridge, which is also a part of this. How do you even ensure a trip like this, honestly? The thing that you just reminded me of and I'm hoping you can do this for the rest of the show of this subject keeps coming up isn't arrested development episode where job the brothers splits his teeth on a candy apple and the rest of the episode everything. He says sounds lispier through the tooth like four or five times. You can hear the whistling through the tooth. And then they just run the joke. It happens like eighty times during the episode where every tenth word with an S has that I want you to do that with big feet. I want you to make the plural big foot. Big feet. No. I just want you to keep referencing big feet. The plural of it. Can I get to this consent? Go story. I'm kind of confused by this whole arrested development thing where we go in here. So here is some Twitter action from Jose Canseco over the weekend. So his belly speaking with a list, just so we're all clear quote watching world of dance watching jaylo text Alex Rodriguez little. Does she know that he is cheating on her with my ex wife? Jessica poor girl. She has no idea who he really is. I was there a few months back with her when he called her and her phone he continued and then Alex Rodriguez stopped being a piece of bleep stop cheating on Jennifer Lopez. And then finally, and this is usually how it ends with Jose can take Conceico diatribes on Twitter, usually Alex Rodriguez. I challenge you to a boxing match or an EMMY meant anytime you want for money. Of course, I know he doesn't say for money. But that is that it goes without saying. Great. Last week. You said Jose can Saco has regret over leaking some of the the names in juiced and that he's been ostracized. And he doesn't like that. But he does stuff like this, which seems a double down all, but he's crazy when it comes to women and has been all his life. Like, these e is crazy in terms of jealousy. Just in terms of women because he's promising to see aliens and sassy and he's praising all right? Put this on the poll. What's crazier about Jose Canseco that he tells you that you can see a big feet and alien big Foot's or his jealousy. It's tough here who do you believe more could Saco or Iran. I mean. Arabs, not saying anything. I don't think Iran's denying it right now. Billy, you didn't understand anything. I was saying did you? I think it's big feats donlevatar. Who? Guillermo, sassy, stugatz sexy. When you're Sesing visit live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. So if James Dolan is not the worst owner in sports, he is a hall of fame loser. As an owner. He's not the worst. He's in the conversation. Now that Donald sterling has been run out of that league. And so we've got some sound for you from basketball from James Dolan. And a lot of people have been telling James Dolan for years to sell the Knicks TMZ has some sound here. That is funny and interesting, but before we get to it. Let's just get to that. Troy Aikman story involving Michael Irvin. And Alvin Harper because the way that I had always heard the story was that Michael Irvin? Ran down the field chasing Alvin Harper with a touchdown. That was supposed to go to Michael Irvin. Let's hear Troy Aikman. Tell that story true or false Alvin Harper was running in the Super Bowl with the football. And Michael was chasing him a touchdown for Alvin Harper Michael was chasing him because it was an audible yelling. That's I touchdown. You're running with my touchdown. That's my touchdown. Well that will. That was in the NFC championship game. Our first one in the ninety two CS and we had called this play. It was eight ninety six flat and the six curl route. And the eight was the skinny post, and and Michael had been running skinny post the entire game. And I'd never thrown it, and he's been running the curl or Alvin Harper, Ben running the curl and based on coverage. Every time we call that playing the game it pretty much went to Alvin Harper. And so there late in the game. We call eight ninety six f flat Michael will do this from time to time. He would try to line up where he thought the ball was going to go. And so he told Alvin, hey, you run the post I'm going to run the curl because that's where he thought it would be thrown. Again, what's interesting about that? Is that I think because Michael went to run the curl. Is it created the coverage that we ultimately got I don't know that we would have gotten the same. Look Michael was the one running that route. But you know, Alvin taxes the ball. And Michael believes he would have been the guy getting it had. He not sold Alvin changed position. Yes. He was running down the field naming that you know, he was happening. He could be it was not a selfish act on his part. But he was screaming that that was his ball. And it should have been him making that. What it is a funny thing and the most cloudy, I mean after Ocho Cinco Tarallo wins. Michael irvin. The most clowney unprofessional behavior from a diva wide receiver. We've seen is from this guy with the died mustache, you know, between takes on the mast singer and dancing with the stars. Totally nuking the Steelers we will talk to Bill Barnwell about that. Because I really am. I I am really startled that all of this worked out with the Steelers taking a beating and in Tonio Brown getting everything that he wanted when he had no real power except to make a mess. How did this work out perfectly for Antonio Brown? I think about the well, he's really good. That's that's how it worked out perfect. I mean team had them would zero guaranteed dollars. They could have just kept him. And he turned that into thirty plus million by missing a football game. You know, what do to get out of Pittsburgh and the pillar of professionalism? That is. Is the Rooney's. Go ahead and hire drew Rosenhaus and be something less than a pillar professionalism. Unless of course, you're the quarterback with two rings. Then they'll pay you forever. I want to get to Bill Barnwell in about fifteen minutes. But before we do that how bad is this James Dolan sound Mike because the Knicks exist just to be laughed at and James Dolan is getting told by everybody for years that he should sell the team. And what does he do? He does what bad dictator? Do. He tries to kick people out of the facility. The sound comes courtesy of TMZ sports. One or not. Anymore? That's rude. Opinion. And you know, what joy watching them on TV what three of in all the cabinet all per cabinet all hip academy. Any ken? What's anyone going to do about it boss move? It is a boss move. I mean, but listen those fans who care about that team, and that organization so much and have endured so much Barrasso in so much losing they deserve the right to say James sell the team, and they should be able to say that without Dolan. Oh, but he's got the power. And no one's going to do anything about it. What are they gonna do is the Commissioner gonna find him for doing that to one of the customers? Or is it Commissioner gonna hide under his desk because the owners are in charge. What would you do? I would not allow an owner to treat my customers that way, and especially not that owner because everyone's fed up with that owner in the way that sterling got gone is not because of the racist things. He said it's because everybody was fed up with that owner like everyb- all the other owners didn't want him around. He was consistently embarrassing other owners, and this guy's doing the same thing. Like these. He think about this who second place right now for worst owner. I don't I think this is the consensus number one overall pick worst owner in sports, go ahead and give me an we're including the one whose company was indicted and football and speaks to homeless people to draft his quarterbacks Rooney's are in that conversation right now, they are not. You don't have a better contribution than that. That's the best. I don't have a war zone or anywhere at sports than than James Dolan. I mean, he's the absolute worst. But I am holding out hope that we get direct Kyrie Irving and Zion. Williamson. And then he becomes the best owner in sports Dolan was right on that wasn't an opinion from that guy isn't cleared if sentence and his right on sell the team is not an opinion. Yeah. Should sell the team opinion. So that was semantics Dolan was kicking him out for. Yeah. Well, yes them what do you mean? By like is an opinion. And he's like, no, it's not he wins point. He wins in every way. Right. He keeps getting except for the place that matters which is in the uniform. I mean, it's your stance on not allowing an owner to talk to people this way is an interesting one. No, no, no. It's denying them the the paying customer access to the arena. It's not the he could say back, whatever he likes. He could what he can't do is have security escort a paying customer out for that. Because I just always assumed your take. Just because you have a ticket doesn't allow doesn't give you the right to treat people like this because it doesn't. But once the owner does that and really honestly, the owner can do that just don't get caught doing that. Once there's a video of an owner saying that to a paying customer, if you're the Commissioner, you ought to find the owner Daniel Snyder put it on the pole Guillermo at lebatardshow, who's the worse owner, James Dolan or Daniel Snyder, I'm gonna give zone some credit. He actually was pretty polite in banning this person told him on joy, watching television time video could have gone a lot worse. If he were he was mad at the guy and he handled it his tone never got outta line. I'm citing with James Dolan. That's his move is to ban people. Didn't who didn't do it. Did he do it to Charles? Oh training. Course. He did also told him to sell the team. We got him arrested. I mean, you got him arrested in front of everyone act Madison Square Garden, he lost that one on the court of public opinion. But it's actually these are boss moves from James Dolan. The team doesn't have to be good for there to be a demand for season tickets. He's speaking from a point of leverage, and it's a privilege to have those seats. No matter how bad they are. I'm just imagining this Kevin guy. He said hold them for Kevin. Kevin do I imagine. Kevin. Where's a big black cloak? I'm afraid of the guy that holding them for Kevin. Can you imagine? How about Canada's? If he's like everyone else with the Knicks. He's not any good at whatever that job is. You don't think they're gonna kick and people out of that arena. They're the best they need to give. There's only two instances that we've ever spoken about. And they've actually been pretty embarrassing for the organization. So maybe they're both the only time we talked about the Knicks. The last few seasons is when they're doing things like this. It's been about eight years since we talked about the Knicks. And it's only when TMZ sports is finger around somebody's telling James Dolan to sell the team. Some other good basketball sound came from Jeff Van Gundy, we will get to Stu gods is weakened up survey shins here in about forty five minutes per play the Van Gundy sound trading LeBron. And look I think in the off season they have to retail this roster. Right. It could be. Trade four and Anthony Davis or I think they need to export trading. Lebron for getting as much as they can what are you doing? What are you doing? No. You gotta get on the right time on if I could trade him for the clippers into cap space, which could give me a better chance to get Durant or Kawhi Leonard would I not do that the broad James not get trading. Okay. You got to put everything on the though you can I hear from the players house. It's business. Everything is business. Well, if it's business then I have to do what's best for my business. I'm not saying, you definitely trade them up saying everything on the table tickets this team better. But bottom line. There's no way that's happening. How do you know?

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"And so again today marks the first day clubs can designate franchise or transition tags on players a handful of guys we're watching out for highlighted enforced by levian fell and quarterback, Nick foles. We're happy to have you with us on this Tuesday. Welcome everyone Wendi nix field Yates Damien Woody Louis Riddick and guess what? It appears there's been a meeting of the minds of sorts anyway between Antonio Brown and Steelers president art Rooney. Here's the latest for eight beat. It did come tweet had a great meeting with Mr. Rooney. Today, we discussed a lot of things and we cleared the air on several issues. We've both agreed. It's time to move on. But I'll always have appreciation and gratitude toward the Rooney family and Steelers organization this in addition to AB who turned to Instagram last night to make it clear. He's open for business. Now big ground from our own. Any NFL teams? I watch my phone hit my phone. I'm only going to begin the. Motivation, motivation and. And so to focus. No, more games. Just another day at the office, Adam Schefter joins us now shift shefty take us through what these latest developments means for an Tony around the Steelers mister big chess is looking for chestful of guaranteed money clearly at this point time and the first step to finding that new team was meeting today with art Rooney the Steelers president and basically both sides came with that meeting feeling betrayed was inevitable. Really? That's exactly what we thought all long. Anyway, we've heard art Rooney say at this point in time, it was inevitable referred Tonio Brown, basically publicly declare that it's time to move on from Steelers nation time to leave Pittsburgh. He's looking to move on elsewhere. Now, they were able to air some of their differences, and I think or Rooney was able to hear from Tony Brown. Some of the issues that drove into feel that way where he can make his own interpretation of what's good and bad in his own organization moving forward. But the bottom line is the Pittsburgh Steelers. Haven't had any trade talks regarding in Tonio Brown as of yet. But that's about to change. The combine is next week. Every team will be there and the Pittsburgh Steelers are expected to be shopping 'Antonio Brown looking for a high pick back in return, but probably with the events of the past couple of weeks. Devaluing the worth that they can get back in return for Antonio Brown. One of the greatest players in the game. Shefty thank you. Well, you're right. You know, what it is marketplace operates like a marketplace their supply, there's demand and there's that ill word, which in this case is leverage. And although this meeting I think is positive in the sense that everybody says, you know, what we'll move on shake hands. Thank you. I don't see what kind of leverage. The Steelers have at this point in terms of demanding higher price. It's interesting some would say that after the past twenty four hours the Steelers might have a slightly bit more leverage because in Tonio Brown sort of devalued himself by acting frankly, odd, I mean, people have looked at this social media behavior is somewhat missed. Defying a team who was going to have to trade something of value to the Steelers pay Tonio Brown, thirty six or so million dollars the next three years also gonna want to deal with some of the quirkiness that we've seen on social media over the past couple of days in some ways Antonio Brown's behaviors antics, basically have been a precursor to trade me or else where else could things go because over the past few days sticking several different terms. You're absolutely right, in my opinion. But doesn't that hurt the Steelers since he has a contract they've got a trade that contract? And if his trade value goes down, it's the Steelers at least at the present time who get less. It hurts them in terms of compensation. They receive it may actually who knows it could bring more buyers into the market because his price is down and everybody loves value. Everybody's gonna want an all pro wide receiver at a discounted cost. In terms of what they have to give up to get him. Now in terms of their compensates in terms of paying him and give him a new contract sticking points going come obviously because I don't know how many people want to open up there. Big chest from Mr. big chest. The strange thing about it though. Is that look if you're still looking for a war chest of money to keep using chest. Okay. If you're looking for that. And you're looking to find a place that in this is a serious part of this. You heard him reference? The fact that if you have a bunch of haters on your team, if you have a bunch of people if you have a place that doesn't have good chemistry. Doesn't have good come rotary. Don't even talk to me. I think what gets lost in all of this and all the nonsense and all the Instagram videos and tweets is the fact that there's something to the fact that he doesn't like what's going on in the Pittsburgh locker room. He doesn't like what's going on in this innovation doesn't like how he's treated, Mike. How other people treat other people? And unfortunately, we're losing track of all that because of all the just a circus atmosphere surrounding how he's delivering his message, which is unfortunate. Because even when he's gone, even if levian bells Levy on Bill is gone, Mike Tomlin, Kevin Colbert, Mr. Rooney. They still have some work to do. They still have some work to do both in terms of replacing those guys even though they've already. Replaced Levy on bell with James Connor and figuring out. What is going on with our football team? What's going on? It's not just an Tonio Brown driven home. Oh, I'm gonna tell you what I will tell you what the real is right now Dallas. Ooh. Big bad. Route. Listen, I'm telling you, I now Lou we both know. Guys. Don't appreciate. A teammate going into media and call now Philippine mates. I like we know you play quarterback. We know the quarterback position is the most important position sports. But we put we both put our pass on the same way. I'm man just like you'll man and we've seen this tom-tom again with Big Ben in Denver to their crucial interception. Who does he call out watched it? So I'm telling you right now, I know every all the focus zone Antonio Brown and later on Bill to a lesser degree. But like lucid they still have some work to do in Pittsburgh because not everything going be resolved by just let me just ship. Antonio Brown out the door to suggest that or to assume that if you're the Steelers is really short sighted and probably gonna land you in another round of trouble. But I do think inter near Brown has to have some ownership for the way. This message has been lost his own message. And all this may the whole the whole social his own social media from the whole thing he was under cutting his own self two days ago. He did a little thing on Twitter. Wade said, oh, it's not about the money. And then you come back on Instagram live. He said, but it's about the money. So he's just he's just contradicted himself all over the place. And if you're trying to make a move. Charlie got it. Pittsburgh, wouldn't it be in your best interest to lay low let the people you have working for you handle their business to facilitate this type of thing rather than going on on social media and making all these type of demands here point think about one Antonio Brown was looking for a new deal a couple of different occasions in his career. You know, what he did showing up to work? He never spoke about it publicly any sort of condescending or patronizing way towards the organization never made it about himself still came to OTA's. Eventually he was rewarded staying calm and just doing his job landed him, then five year eighty five million dollar contract. He's taking in much different much more outspoken approach to his demands for a trade, and we'll see whether the Steelers they are willing to access, but whether they can a different story because they gotta find a reasonable deal. I think it's ignorant to assume this one hundred percent one side almost nothing is I mean almost nothing. So I would never suggest that. But what do you think the reputation or the impression is for other GM's out there? Might be interested in making a deal here because there's clearly no disputing the production between the lines without a doubt just like in any situation where it's a polarizing situation. There's going to be GM's who say I don't want anything to do with that. I'm much more guarded about the chemistry on my football team. And how bringing in someone with this kind of reputation. Could negatively affect my football team. There will be some GM's who go I could care less. How many gram videos he produces? I don't care how what he wants to be called. I don't care how he does his hair. This guy is a baller. He's an all pro. And he's still has probably three or four good years left the NFL based on how he takes care of himself. What's the price? Let's talk. I don't really don't care. And that's how it always goes. We've seen it. We've seen teams take on guys who we've set up here and said, there's no way we'd sign that guy. No way Kumi signed. Then there's teams that will sit there go that would actually stick to it. They would walk the walk. It's like they talk and say, no, we're not going to deal with those kind of things. So I'll tell you what. I mean, there's no way you could blanket say this has hurt him. It's. Going to drive down his price because that's natural GM's are smart. They know the right now the Steelers are in a bind they're not gonna sit there and go. Hey, we'll just give you one. Sure, they know that right now they're scrambling. They know what the perceptions going to be. But there's going to be people out there who are buyers for sure well jury rising house that who is the agent for Antonio Brown will join us. Shortly will ask him some of the same questions. He was also in that meeting today between Abe and art Rooney. So we can shed some light on that as well. Again. A reminder today the first day that franchise or transition tenders can be extended. So here's a quick planer. We'll start with the franchise tag one year guaranteed deal with the salary based on the average of the top five players cat percentage at the position. There are two designations for franchise, tag, and exclusive and non exclusive rights with the exclusive preventing players from negotiations with any other team. Now, the two thousand nineteen numbers are not in yet. But a quick look at where we stood last year at notable zoo. Missions that number over twenty three million for quarterbacks eleven eight for running back nearly sixteen for wideout a big difference in salary between the defensive end and linebacker position which could impact what somebody like Jeb on clowney will get and now the transition tag, essentially, a one year contract worth the average of the top ten players a given position from the previous year that player can go. She ate and the team has the right to match any offer sheet if the team decides not to match it will not receive any additional compensation, Adam Schefter back with us. Let's talk about the other big store in Pittsburgh. What's the latest with levian bell who wanted to Pittsburgh Steelers have been considering using their transition tag on Levy on bell, which we give them the ability to match any offer sheet that he signed with another team. They wouldn't five days to do that from the time that he did sign an offer sheet. I think there is going to be interest in living on Ville from around the league the handful of teams one that's. Willing to pay him at the very least. And once that happens if the Steelers do use that tag. They would have the chance to match that offer the danger of using the transition tag is you don't get a compensatory draft pick. If you turn out not to match that offer sheet. So basically, if they don't tag Levy on Bill at all, and he leaves the free agency they will get back compensatory draft pick. But if they put the transition tag on him, and he leaves and they don't match it. No compensatory draft pick. That's a decision. Steals wrestling with but they strongly considering slapping Levy on Bill with that transition tag. It's a considerable distinction. Shefty thank you the most dramatic saga with all taking place right now. It is what it is. And hold outs in total. What we've created leave individuals around here. So we've got to go out. And so we can do without we need volunteers. Not hostages. These teams that have a lot of cap space. Are they willing to give him? The Todd Gurley contract is only the beginning more drama in the pitcher locker room. His the illusion. We're talking about dark is out in the guy not communicating that is a real elements ruining says it's tough to vision and coming back to this singularly unique count, and they are done with him Tonio round does not want to be. It's dealer anymore. And so here's where we've landed. As of today, this tweet from Antonio Brown had a great meeting with Mr. Rooney today to discuss a lot of things we cleared the air on several issues. We both. Agreed. It's time to move on. But I'll always have appreciation and gratitude toward the Rudy family and Steelers organization we're having to have with us this afternoon. The agent for Antonio Brown, drew Rosenhaus who was also in that meeting with Brown, Mr. Rooney and Steelers GM Kevin Colbert, and drew we'll just start with this. Why did today's meeting in with both parties saying, yes, we'll shake hands? But it's time to move on wasn't important thing. Keep in mind setting Tonio has had really nine great years with the Steelers organization, he's really had a historic career for them. And this was really a way to move on in a very positive. Light in Tonio had the opportunity to meet with Mr. Rooney clear the air on a lot of issues. They shook hands they gave each other a hug and both sides agree that at this stage of Antonio career. It isn't his fest thing tryst in everyone's best. Interesting Tonio Steelers at this juncture to move forward, and we're kind of trait. So if we've agreed that his time to look forward, it appears both sides, do then drew what's next. What's the next step for Antonio Brown? Well, right now the Steelers they're running the whole trade effort there in Tokyo's under contract, and they have the ability to talk to other teams right now and find the best deal for them. And we we hope they get a great amount of compensation. We want everybody to win here. This is the kind of thing where certainly it'd be great for the Steelers to get with. They were deemed to be fair compensation for Antonio. And for in Tonio define a new team at this point and repeal the positives from that. So that's where it is presently. Do not have permission to talk to teams or work on trade. That'll be something that the Steelers handled directly with teams when team calls me. That's when I will do my job, drew. What was the tipping point? It sounds like we can all agree today was the day when we said, you know, what we look ahead. But what point did this become an era? Reversible situation in terms of what Antonio believes. Well, I'm going to focus on the future. I'm going to focus on the positive meeting that we had today. I think moving forward the messages that in Tonio succeeded about this coming season moving ahead positive things as relates to the Steelers organization and the Rooney family, so with all due respect. I'd rather not look back, but look forward to what should be an exciting couple of weeks fair enough since you certainly don't know exactly where he'll end up. Can we ask you though, some potential criteria that might matter to AB in terms of what he's looking for it and new team if he had a chance to be part of the decision. Well, I can tell you what I know about Antony and that he is a great competitor and all-time great player agree teammate, a great person. And as far as another team. We'll see how that shakes out. I really don't wanna put any criteria out there. That'll be between the Steelers and the teams that are interested in Tokyo. I would imagine that there will be a lot of teams interested in trading for him. It is very rare to get an all time. Great like this in a trade. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for another football team. I'm sure they will jump on it all right through can't help. But ask about the guaranteed money. He did reference. An Instagram is not is that something that's a critical mass here. Well, I never gonna disagree with the client. Antonio was clear about what he's looking for. And my job is to make everything happen. I can it's in my clients best interests. So rather than getting into any more specific than that? I'll do my job I fair enough. Let's switch gears now because you also work with rob gronkowski and he's had a tremendous career. But he's also been clear that he's mulling a decision on his future. I won't ask you what that is. But I would ask what kind of timetable there is to make a decision. Well, you could ask me, and I would tell you the truth. I don't know not sure I pretend going. Yeah. I checked in which rob a couple days ago. I've talked to the patriots about it right now. Rob is he's thinking it through, you know, he's given it a lot of thought Robb will certainly I think make decision in the or suitable future. I don't want to put any pressure on him and give him a timeframe. But I. I would imagine that it will be sometime within the next couple of weeks. All right. You also represent some key free agencies and free agents and free agency will begin shortly March thirteenth with really is just around the corner. What can you tell us about gronk patriots teammate offensive tackle Trent Brown? On excited to represent him. These next couple of weeks. I think he's going to be a coveted guy last year with injury norwell in free agency who became the all-time highest paid offensive guard at the time, and I think Trent ground is going to absolutely dominate in free agency. Where can you find a left tackle? Like, this is nearly six foot nine is phenomenal player. Great run blocker great pass protector and he protected Tom Brady and his blindside for Super Bowl championship. We're pre should've of the patriots will continue to talk to them. There's a possibility he could go back there. But I think he'll be a coveted player. All right. A quick one here another potential free agent. Most recently with the bugs Kwan Alexander. Awfully excited about once recovery. One is one of the top linebackers in the NFL. He's tremendously ter- of fierce, competitor, the heart and soul of the buccaneers defense. They really struggled without him. He's doing great with his rehab, his knees. Doing fantastic. It'll be ready to go for training camp. I expect him to extremely well. In free agency. We're still talking the buccaneers. That's the possibility you go back there. But he won't have a shortage of suitors interested in signing him. He'll be a hot create do. I know it as an extremely busy time of year for you even more so than the season. So we certainly appreciate it. We hope to see you at the NFL combine coming up next week. You will be there working heart through predate it. Yeah. And a busy, man. Obviously today the first day for franchise and transition tag tenders free agency set to begin March thirteenth. So a critical point in the league year in terms of building a team via free agents. Let's talk about what he said about Antonio round. What stood out to you? Louis. Would sit out the music. He wants to look forward. I underway. And like I've said without speculating guessing, obviously with their smoke. There's fire. Okay. There's real problems at Antonio had with the way he felt he was being dealt with their the way other people conducted themselves. They're maybe thought there was some sort of double standard. Although look a player of his magnitude gets treated with yet. Most respecting utmost amount of leeway as anyone even though he's not a quarterback. But I think he is right. When he says, this this is rare for a guy with of his caliber with his kind of skills in his still his future performance protection. Being maybe two or three years of max max production still to hit the market like this. They'll be plenty of teams that need a number one like this. And I think. It'll be interesting drew me sitting there going, man. Well, maybe somebody will pony up something a little bit significant. Drew a great sound. He's got a lot of enthusiasm. But there's no question. There's going to be teams teams figure out this just how high now do I need to go get him. If I really want him. What do I need to offer up, and that's perfect as long as you have a bunch of suitors, you had the potential for Lou, you know, well, as I know. Kasa sitting in into freed in their facilities like. A beat on the market right question. Question five seasons over hundred catches like. I can I can fix this guy. I just just deal with. Perhaps the right word, I can manage this. And let me say this as his age. I don't blame him for looking forward. I mean, there's no on not just you're right. I mean, he doesn't want to go back and sit here and just kind of rehash why he doesn't want to be there anymore. I specially after meeting today actually got what he wants now wants to hit the market. I think it's actually a pretty good time for him to hit the market not actually poor free agency class for wide receivers the draft. I'll leave to Louis, but I don't think this is regarded as a top tier one of the best wide receiving groups. We've seen in quite some time. So let me just throw a hypothetical team. They're wondering if I'm sitting there on the Green Bay Packers got an extra. I in extra fourth in an extra sixth round pick this year. I've got a quarterback is thirty five years old coming off a disappointing season. One of the lowest completion percentages in his career Randall Cobb not under contract Rodham house, not under contract why not consider the idea of Antonio Brown. Opposite of. Devante added. If you're the Green Bay Packers. You don't have time to waste anymore with this offense. I would love the idea, and I get it. Every team can talk out of Antonio Brown deal. A lot of money involved his antics of late have been questionable. But we're also talking about a player who in a down year down had thirteen hundred receiving yards. This is a guy who rolled out of bed catches one hundred passes in his good for almost one hundred yards game. Either love the how about this one. How about this one Wendy? Okay. How about the team on the bay the San Francisco forty Niners? Okay. Tanning. You act John Lynch. Tom's a ticket. You don't get over to do a rebuild. You gave this huge this big Mireille three anytime to do. Turnaround like that. You're sitting in the division with the with the law signs of Rams and the Seattle Seahawks. Right. You gave big money to Jimmy Garoppolo. It's time to start realize realize some of that investment. And what better what better way to realize that investment by giving giving your quarterback a big time? Why receiver? All right, Adam Schefter, you still with us. Let me ask you your take away. I'm assuming you had a chance to hear from drew as well. Field set. I think the Green Bay Packers are arm with lots of munitions draft is reason they moved back in the draft last year when the New Orleans Saints came up, and they can go do what they want in this draft. And Tony Obama will be a perfect player angry baby. A great fate of somehow the Packers could figure out a trade with the Steelers general think would take a lot of compensation as for what to Rosenhaus said say the one thing that stood out to me was that Antonio Brown comes out and talks about a team with guaranteed money. How he wants him guaranteed muddy hit up his phone that sort of thing. And when you ask drew about that he said, look my job is to serve the clients. He didn't deny that end. Tonio Brown is looking for more money and improve contract more guarantees. So that all of a sudden becomes a part of the deal for in Tonio Brown. It's not just compensating the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's compensating in Tonio Brown. And when you have somebody that's to compensate both parties that complicates the trade. But is. You all alluded to the fact that there is a shortage of Frazier wide receivers. There's a shortage of wide receivers in his track. And there's not a player out there more talented than Antonio Brown. I can't believe it that Gerald is presenting the quarterly budget report with finger puppets. Here comes a one point seven percent decrease in fixed overhead I know everybody. No, I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on car insurance guy. Go. Are you projected increase in organic three revenue? Believe it. Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Seems like it's time to move on. And Philly is well, Adam Schefter back with us. What are your expectations shefty regarding the eagles quarterback? When the eagles you're planning to use their franchise tag on Nick foles quarterbacks or currency in this league. And I think that they view Nick foles is one of the better starting quarterbacks in this league somebody that you bring some commencer value. Now last week the Broncos trade amid round pick thought to be a fourth round pick four Joe flacco and that sets up in frames a market for those two. I think people in Philadelphia that Nick foles should bring even more in return to the eagles. So now they have to see if they could find a trade partner. And if they can then they go ahead and use that franchise tag on Nick foles where they can help influence where he's traded to. But I don't think that they wanna see him just walk out the door a quarterback capable starting in this league and not get anything in return. The plan has been to put the franchise tag on them. Now, we'll see whether or not they follow through with those plants. And thank you certainly capable of starting in this league. He's a Super Bowl in VP as well. There's that whole argument, which we'll touch on about system or coach or whatever. But he's done what he's done when you survey the landscape, where do you see potential landing spots will leave some of the actual in Boston the table. Your other say, this is somewhat of a little bit of suppressed Bork and only because we've already seen although not officially the Joe flacco trade is somewhat interested me 'cause takes one sooner off the board in the Denver Broncos in theory. And then also Joe flacco za quarterback that I think made a at least I would've commute viewed him as somewhat of a consolation prize. If you couldn't reach a deal for Nick foles, I think it is somewhat trickier for Philadelphia to orchestrate this because I think I think if you're looking at two of them better fits for Nichols on paper or teams that need a veteran quarterback in the same division. Yeah. Yeah. No question about it. Look, I think the number one team just because I think the million is going. To be important for Nick, it's going to be important. So he can be up to speed right off the bat and be running offense that he's comfortable with and that he has some some history of being successful in. So automatically that points to this to John Filippo down in Jacksonville. It would point to that point to someone who has been in a quarterback room with someone who's probably gonna use verbs. That's very similar what he is used to still and someone who he has had some sort of relationship with. I think it's dangerous with Nick we've seen how he has not performed evenly every place that he has been I think relationships is very important here. So that's a team that would make sense, quite honestly, you're referring to teams that are in the same division. Look, the New York Giants would make sense. Because of the fact that Shurmur is there because a run Centric offense at emphasizes plaques and pass that has weapons on the perimeter. Would be perfect for him with up eagles do that. Probably not the Washington Redskins, Alex Smith, who's hurting and they have two guys we're free agents in in Josh Johnson and Mark Sanchez. So I mean there you. Have nobody. So that would make sense had the eagles done that before. Yeah. I was there when we sent Don McNabb to the Washington Redskins and then turn around and just bludgeoned in the game. So seen it happened. Now that was Andy Reid. It's a lot different. So this this is interesting, Nick. Although he's a good player. I think fit is so important, and I don't think you can just automatically slot him into certain teams like you're playing football and get the same production. You got in up, and I think that would be very very dangerous very dangerous for the team. That's acquiring him. It did. Are you Louis, but it just so hard for me? Sometimes, you know, lot more about football than I do. But there was something about this guy. Maybe it was something about this guy with this team. That's that's a fair argument. Which would make me ask you this. Is it possible it's possible? But what are the odds that the eagles regret the decision to move on? And they would have had to make other decisions. I understand you can't have a both. But. I don't know. I just I just feel like everything is pretty created on Carson Wentz ability on the field. Really? That's all this is all about his inability to not be able to field especially in crew in a critical time for juncture in two of the two of the past last season's that ultimately led to Nick foles when a super will become William VP and then leading the Philadelphia Eagles into the playoffs. Again. That's the only way the Philadelphia Eagles really regret is if they're starting quarterback the the guy who has the higher ups. I cannot stay on the field. The upside here, too is that both sides have handled this well up to this point. Sure, it's time to go forward. It's time for Nick foles to get an opportunity, but you know, for as long as they had to manage it. Everybody did their part from the Joan to went to foles. Yeah. They have they have Nick is a consummate pro he is. He's someone who's obviously very very well respected. And he's someone it's it's really is going to be interesting. There's another team. I didn't mention maybe maybe the team like the Miami Dolphins. I don't I don't know necessarily what they feel about Nick because I am talked to Brian floor is I don't know what Chris Greer is thinking about Nick foles and how he fits their system. Heck you hear all kinds of things about the Miami Dolphins how they may address quarterback going forward in the draft. You know, there's a certain kind. There's a certain player who's been linked to them named Tyler Murray who is totally opposite from what Nick in terms of what he brings to the table. And I don't think you can I don't think you can just turn a blind eye to fit in terms of kind of office you wanna run and again when the the relationships and Nick had something super special there. That's why I think for even for him. I think that's going to be an important factor. As to where he goes as far as who's going to be calling the plays who's going to be in that quarterback room with him as far as coaching it and the people that he's surrounded with our enhance the Jacksonville thought one more time amplify because. There. Yeah, we loose obviously mentioned the relationship. John filipo. This is a t that after the season had to issue a statement saying they were keeping their head coach generator. You know, what that means? That means that you could be on borrowed time pretty quickly. If things don't get turned around in a minute you go to block for nearly knock off the patriots AFC championship game last season. Then you regress right back to where you've been for the previous five years. You crater you kick get out of your way on offense and defensively. You don't meet expectations. If I'm the Jaguars this off season. I am viewing it as make a break made up being the exact term that I'm looking for put if we don't get better. And you and you go for this you go for this kind of player, regardless of whether or not you that people on the outside or even you yourself feel as John you're the number one reason why Nick had a season like he had when you were there because there was a lot of other people who had a hand in developing him that year Frank Reich was still there in Doug Peterson. It's pretty darn good coach too. But you know, what makes him tick, you know, what he likes you know, he likes to practice. You know, he likes to be taught how to be corrected high. He likes games to be called that all make sense. Does the bread crumbs you need to follow as far as what would be the best place for guy like this without question when the bigger stories at the offseason Moby talking about it until it settled Moran and talk about what happens once it said. Hopefully today today, you can start with your franchise entrance tags the window opens. And there are certainly some pass rushers to keep an eye on Cowboys defensive in DeMarcus Lawrence could be getting tagged for the second straight year. We could also talk about Debbie on cloudy and Trey flowers, which is exactly what we'll do Adam Schefter back with this and Jesse let's start with DeMarcus Lawrence when the obvious candidate for the franchise tag. The Cowboys do not want him leaving Dallas. So they'll tend to work out a long term lucrative extension with the mortis Lawrence by the more fifth deadline for franchise tags. If they get it done rate, if not then they used the franchise tag on him for a second straight year. Galaxy? He's one of these players that is an absolute game record at twenty six years old double digit sacks mine over the past two years proficient playing the run in the past. It's time to go ahead and lock him up. This is the only way you can slow down high-power offenses in the NFL. The further away you get from the football the harder. It is to play defense. These are the guys you have to pay. These are the guys who have to make sure don't get out of your building out of your silly in DeMarcus is earned his money. If you've ever watched plate live folks have you ever been down to field level? This is one of the premier athletes in the NFL Garza position and interesting situation. Shefty just because of a slow start and the injury history. But what about beyond cloudy skies? Another player that the Texans don't want to lose. Now these parties the defensive end franchise tag is much higher than the linebacker franchise tag. He's played more snaps at end. And the player will argue that he deserves the end tag, the Texas may say, hey, we wanna pay you with the linebacker tag will leave them to sift through. It's wrong. The bottom line is the Texans. Don't want it to leave and they're likely to use tag on whichever one that is. Yeah. I mean when you look at debut and cloudy you talking about one of the more versatile defenders in National Football League. Saw what these in Texas would how they use him deploying him all over the field whether stand up linebacker outside Russia and the defense inspite sissies had those interest Earl on his crew his in his career. He's really come on and been a stable opposite JJ watt, Whitney mercilus. Deform one of the best ten Dems best defenders in front seven in National Football League. If I'm the Houston, Texas, no way, I'm gonna let guy like David Crowley, welcome to the free agent market. I chassis what about trae flowers? One Wendy because the patriots rarely used franchised eggs on Lyman skill position players. They've opted to use it on players. Like a kicker Stephen guests Caskey who once again is eligible for free agency. And so it doesn't sound like the patriots are gonna tag Trey flowers or trimmed Brown, and they're more likely to use the tag on the Keiko which. Means that trae flowers will be one of the most aid demands as Russia's on the market. The patriots don't sign into a long term extension before agency, which they certainly will to do. But his price is going to be sky high, Wendy, that's right set to keep it on the patriots here over the next two and a half weeks until we get to the start of the new league year patriots. Certain keep lowers perhaps their most versatile player on defense. He's an end by roster vision, but he plays over a guard over a center can rush the passer can build the wall against the run. And this patriots defense carried them to championship in the biggest game of the season flowers perhaps their second best defensive player. But you know, you can rush the passer you're going to be very expensive on the mobile market in the former one hundred I overall pick and certainly going to want to try to have his bite at the apple players. Lot of t's excuse me. I have a lot of interest in flowers. Yeah. There's the passer, and there's those who make the passers uncomfortable, and they both turn out to be pretty lucrative job. This is you know, kidding flowers, by the way, twenty one five four fumbles over the last three seasons. All of those lead New England. Milk junior unveiled his draft version two point. Oh yesterday. He has or quarterback projected to go day one at number thirteen to the dolphins. None other than Heisman Trophy winner. Cuyler Murray who addressed questions about his height yesterday. I don't I don't wake up in the morning to measure myself. So I don't know that. But it's definitely not five seven. Are you looking for five eight? I just I don't get the whole like five. I don't I don't I don't understand that. But of her some wild stuff over the past month. But it is fun. I gotta I gotta go in there and prove to an organization why they should invest in me. So I'm ready. And we'll y'all all see how tall. I like it already. I liked the way handle that. What what are you gonna say? Yeah. I mean, you know, take it with a grain of salt. That's all we can do can't change his height. Blue is tell us why we make a big deal about this in the first place or historically why it's been a consideration. Well, it's been a consideration. Because no one has ever been drafted sub six foot sub five ten five nine in the first round the quarterback number two because gentlemen, it's easier to draft guys who have all the measurable 's in in terms of protecting yourself on the downside because then when that player doesn't pan out you say, well, I crossed off all the boxes. I checked all the boxes reason why the player didn't pan out because for some reason the player had a flaw that I didn't know of. So that's why people are scared to drive guys. Like this at quarterback position in particular. Now. But I'm just telling you people are scared if collar for some reason doesn't pan out is I'm telling you the first thing they'll go to say told you quarterbacks can't make it in the NFL. And that's what GM's get scared of. Well, I understand getting scared, but we also have counter examples of that plane right now football leagues will be hall of famers. But I hear you because everybody wants to keep their job. I nobody wants to go through. What do you make the height with regards to Kyla Murray in particular of always says you can play you can play? And I think we see an NFL. Now is the cousin of college game is is is is being brought to the pro game. These evaluators coaches they won't guys that you can assimilate into the game at a much much quicker way. You know, you see these these quarterbacks coming in. They don't need to sit for years. They can come into the game right now start and be productive right out of the gate. So guy like polymer who was more deducted and Baker Mayfield at Oklahoma. It would to me just really should be that much chat about oh. Five ten five nine the do can play play behind a tree trunk office, align and it didn't it didn't it didn't bother him as far as concern. I'm gonna say this as the as the draft approaches, I believe that the chatter will heat up significantly about this guy going number one overall. I'm just I just had this feeling that it's going to heat up that AirAsia. Although they have said look we have our guy we have Josh Rosen. I'm just telling you, my instinct tells me that is going to heat up big time. And I don't think that's very far faced and that my friend would be news that that would be development. No question, by the way, Murray said he's not sure he's going to throw it the Combi netra if he's going to do the drills. We'll see he is planning to be in attendance in Indianapolis. Among our top stories today. The latest in a long line of developments between the Steelers and Antonio Brown. Here's a tweet for maybe had a great meeting with Mr. Rooney today, we talked about a lot of things cleared the air. We both. Agreed. It's time to move on. But I'll always have appreciation and gratitude toward the Rooney family and the Steelers organization guess who's back Steelers reporter Jeremy Fowler. Jeremy what does this mean for the Steelers now that they finally met with Brown face to face? When it's great to be with you. Once again a Steelers can finally regain control of this situation for weeks. They've seen in Tonio Brown issue. Social media questionnaires about players coaches at the Steelers they've seen in post workout videos, talking about the Steelers and now they to me with him and hopefully Brown will stop posting those videos, or at least they can focus on the trade situation. But team is able to reinforce that they will dictate all terms of the trade. They're going to figure out where he goes make sure there are no conflicts of interest there that he goes to the best team possible for their planning and this allows players to move onto Wendy spoken with several guys over the last days and weeks who are just sort of numb to it. All they were prepared for either scenario, they hoped things would get worked out, but they just want it to be over teams, understandable, how will deal between Brown and the Steelers and his new team play out at this point. Well, of course, things will heat up at the NFL combine next month. But the Steelers are confident that they will get a high draft pick for in Tonio Brown. They believe that. There are enough teams out there perhaps a few with young quarterbacks who were just one piece away if they can inject the right play making into their offense want potential hurdle is what Brown issued on his recent social media video saying that he wants to do guaranteed money part of the bargaining chip that was attracted to new teams get three years of base salary chain ten and twelve million dollars. So if they have to shift some money around maybe create a signing bonus for him that is at least a small hurdle. But it could be a small price pay for team really wants them. Always interesting. Jeremy, I'm sure we'll talk again. Thank you. Well, there you go. Again, we talked to Rosenhaus who's the agent for an Tony around earlier. We said, hey, what about the guaranteed money that to client reference, and he said, and I quote, I've never go against the client's wishes. So clearly that's on the list. Always negotiating that's on the list in something they'll try to look for in a new team. Louvre hurdle though. Because I take it. Reminds me of one player gets franchise and his team tries to trade him. You're not just paying the price in a trade. Whether to draft pick Lascaux was the case with the Cleveland Browns as a fourth round pick the dolphins. You're also going to have to make a major investment last year was five years seventy five million dollars team really going to be willing to tend to give up. Let's say a second round pick plus hand in Tonio Brown over a new deal, and it's always a little bit more complicated. When you technically can't agree to the deal the contract until the trade is already executed a lot of moving parts, but safe to say, this is the story of the early offseason. Yes. And will be I believe until there's some sort of resolution Dame. He wants to go have backup truck. He's he's he's a player who's number say might need to. But it's it's an odds situation. Gums day. We and. Oh, he put up some numbers of move. He has he put a listen I've been in New England situation understand how to hold on them mcgee's. But boy, I'm telling there's gonna be some teams out there. That's going to look at this whole situation. Like, man, there's only been one guy that has put a five street years of one hundred plus catches one in history national football. Nessen tonio. I hope this. I hope he lived by what she said on that is because there was something again that was important that he said, which was basically if your team has to haters if you're a team and doesn't have we need. Definite painters. I think why get well, we could probably get one. If we could go back to the Steelers and kind of talked about why would he was ticked off in the first place. But we can't go back. Forward. That's right. But I think as long as he walks what he's talking which is the fact that look this wants to be that guy on the football field that everyone has come to know, which is the guy who puts up hundred plus yard seasons in basically, just destroys doubles single coverage in basically can beat any covers that you put against them. I hope he's that guy. Because if he is that does that opens up a whole bunch of potential suitors because it's always about fit. I talked about fit all the time. I talk about fit obnoxiously all the time. But with this guy, I think it's important. And if he is he's true to word, which he says, I just want to be around. Good culture winsome games here late my career. And really just be that guy. You're right. It's exciting. It's exciting. For him. It's about price tag for the team. Could you imagine what you bay area? You know, my language as football fan. Okay. What team? Of course, you're the Vikings. I guess you gotta be intrigued by seeing him on the same field with Aaron Rodgers of atoms. And all of that. I mean. Still it's still about how does this work? How does this work when he gets in here after we give him his money? If we do give him his guaranteed money. Okay. Look AB. You we do things a different way. Here. We do your new team with a new quarterbacks. If you go to Green Bay. Devante atoms is a pretty darn good wide receiver who I who. I think have an absolute just breakout year in this new off. Here's one we'll see do is on the two you always save money. Just basically makes you like it. Sure, you really are. So that's that's sounds nice. When you say that we won't sit. Now AB. This is how we do. I know way that you're you're the one who is near sale. Wants go. Hold on. Hey, if I'm Brian to kids right now up in Green Bay and mean watching the show or if I'm sitting here thinking about this. I'm sitting there going okay at the Adams. I have Aaron Rodgers Jimmy Graham, I have to pretty good young go forty Green Bay but bring him in here. What what kind of what kind of? Exactly, exactly. Going to have on this and really get to the bottom of. Hey, look, are you willing to do things the way we do some telling you what in my experience with free agents. What? Roll the ones. I if I had the roll the dice. Yeah. We take one take a chance. I'm great players. So I don't know about take a chance picture AB Antonio Brown as well. I'm going to really clean sweep. Yeah. Value track record dependability. Who'd is. Well, here's. Talking about it not necessarily to do in the coming days. What's that? She wants to say it's actually give it some thought levian bell curve. I just wanted to know I actually think I would over the weekend. Josh Allen autographed a photograph of himself. And he's celebrating a touchdown underneath the ad it remember during the reins. Ramsey trash. Now, this isn't a thin air because Ramsey called Allen trash in an interview last August with G q. Now, this is what he he signed that right? After this week twelve facing the bills Jaguars base Jags. Josh Ellen gets one to Robert Foster and then allied with the QB draw up the middle breaks tackle dived into enjoyed. It was twenty one nothing at that point at later in the fourth quarter bills leading Twenty-one fourteen Alan breaks, free scrambles. For the forty five yard game. And so the question was posed in my store trash, I'm not to I need to tell you what T responded. Would simple. This one word. Yes. Yes. Direct as. Both predictions for some quarterbacks field for the two thousand eighteen rookie class. So those darnold and the mayfield's and the going into nineteen Natalie intermediate said yeah, Josh L rush for seven hundred and fifty Ardeshir make it a thousand. Gimme a thousand rushing yards for Josh Allen had thirty last night really was because the supporting cast was around him, and he had to find ways to create yards because wide receivers were not getting off men to man coverage. Well to reality for the bills, they will find ways to get better wide receiver this year. But not enough to avoid a lot of runs for John Callan. And he's an incredible. Sam Donald being Thompson quarterback next year. Listen. Yeah. I'm good guy. That was like one of the best quarterbacks in the league lafley games of the season last year. Just got tons of cafes. You know, they're gonna add a ton of a ton of players. I don't know. Probably they will. I hope so I hope you're right. I'm gonna go with Josh Rosen. Not lethargic, Jack. This say about Josh knows. He's not the starting quarterback for their cardinals. He's not even on the cardinals roster. Collar Murray's starting quarterback for the cardinals new kind of. Overall. That's my prediction for Josh. Josh wherever you go. You're gonna be good quarterback. He's just not going to be wearing renting way. I like it. He said bold, and you guys woods we're gonna win. Old.

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Best of The Herd: 03/11/2019

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

41:43 min | 1 year ago

Best of The Herd: 03/11/2019

"Thanks for listening to the best of her podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports radio and f s one find your local station for the hurt at FOX board. Trae dot com or stream it live every day on the iheartradio app. By searching heard is the best of the herd with Colin cowherd on FOX towards radio. Monday. This is the heard wherever you may be in. However, you may be listening. We are live in Los Angeles on iheart Fox Sports radio and FM one joy Taylor is joining me in a Monday one hour from now where Colin was right were calling was wrong. Plenty plenty of both Jay Glazer joining us in twenty five minutes excited to hear that Wednesday free agency starts in the NFL joy. How are you? I'm great good morning. Good morning. Everybody us. Oh Antonio Brown. We were sort of waiting for this to happen on Friday. And then it happened on Sunday Saturday Antonio Brown is now a raider. And you know, everybody is saying the raiders won. They got the star poor Steelers. So let me just talk about the raiders situation. First of all this entire NFL is a salary cap. This is not baseball as this. Salary cap. So everything comes down to value, the current dynasty and the NFL's the patriots. They get value out of everybody, including their greatest of all time quarterback Tom Brady, he's about the eighteenth highest paid twelve highest paid quarterback in the NFL somewhere in the middle of the league. So even with their star player, they get value. There is no chance for the raiders to get value with this contract. I'm not saying, it's a disaster. But this is like buying a Bentley you may say it's worth every penny. But there's no value with it. You're not getting a deal on a Bentley. This contract is a massive deal for a perimeter player this deal only works for the raiders because they gave up draft picks. And there are rebuilding team. Rebuilding teams. Don't give up draft picks. This only works for the raiders if Antonio Brown for what they paid him is great for three straight years elevates, not only himself. But Derek Carr in the offense stays healthy and happy and his never disgruntled a lot of big ifs. By the way, he's leaving a locker room. That's average ten and a half win since he's been there and he's entering a locker room. That's average six and a half win since he entered the league. You think he's going to be happy? You don't ever think? He'll be frustrated. Let me ask any of you listening or watching today ever worked at a good company. Then you make a little more money and go to a bad company gets frustrating, doesn't it? People around yarn has better bosses aren't as smart co workers on his talented K. There's no value on this deal for the raiders. They got a super talented guy. They paid dearly for it teams that pay wide receivers that kind of money don't go far in the playoffs. Vocals star wide. Receivers are very similar to homerun hitters in baseball. They're expensive. They're popular. They're wildly fun. And they don't do much in the postseason because you become dependent on both. You have a big home run hitter. In a baseball team. Just sits back and continues to wait for a three run home run. Then you get to the postseason and people pitch around him. That's why the big home run kings never end up winning the World Series. Same was superstar wide receivers. Even Randy moss. New England didn't do squat in the playoffs with Tom. Br. Eighty you become dependent on the star receiver for your offense than the postseason comes gets windier and colder not as much vertical passing Lii and teams roller coverage overtaken away, and you're sitting there and as an offense going oh tyreek hill Kansas City Chiefs. Didn't he kind of disappear against New England? This is what I don't understand is that you had Amari Cooper. And now you have Antonio Brown. Let's quite them to sports cars flashy fund. Not as good in the winter. So Amari Cooper, had less miles on him was cheaper and had no previous injuries. With a transmission with the engine. Antonio Brown is older had more miles on the car way, more expensive and got into got a new crash recently. Why wouldn't they just keep the cheaper younger sports car? I mean, there's like a salary cap in the NFL. There's a speed limit sixty five miles an hour. If Antonio Brown can get to sixty five faster. Amari Cooper can get to sixty five congrats. But they both get open in. They're both fast. And they're both flashy and they both get first downs. This feels like the raiders are just making stuff up to me. This was not a long term plan. This feels like they're trying to sell tickets. This is not some well thought out plan. Antonio Brown wasn't on the market three months ago. They got rid of Khalil Mack. They got rid of Amari Cooper. They looked like they were adopting the New England Patriots style of football pay your quarterback, although don't pay him top-five salary. Get rid of stars accumulate draft picks and have a really solid roster. And then all of a sudden this weekend. Maybe the ticket sales are going well in Vegas. Maybe John gruden's trying to win the locker room, let's pay for thirty one year old wide receiver. Who's got a lot of miles. Who's got a lot of ego and doesn't really fit the plan. We kept selling to our locker room a year ago. I'm happy for Antonio Brown. I'm happy for all athletes who make. Money. This is not an anti in Tonio Brown thing. But this only works for the raiders if for all three years, he's just unbelievable. And there's no complaints. And he elevates Derek Carr. And he stays healthy and good luck. He's thirty one Derek cars. Not Big Ben though, I like him their offense headlines not nearly as good as the Steelers. They don't have a dependable running game. Antonio Brown's gonna get double teamed every team may play in my gut feeling is they become highly dependent on him because John's PanAm so much. He's gonna want thirteen targets and nine catches and two touchdowns a Sunday, which over the course of time you become dependent on the home run hitter, the star wide receiver, and it doesn't help you at the end of seasons. So you can say what you want about the Pittsburgh Steelers. They paid nothing for an Tonio Brown for three to four years. They got him in the six round. And then when they had to pay me, they still didn't pay him. Great. Antonio Brown was underpaid. Entire time in Pittsburgh, then they got rid of them and got two picks now for this year little bit of a capital gains tax if you will on that stock. They gotta pay a big chunk of his salary for a year. But you know, this morning, everybody's Pooh poohing, the Pittsburgh Steelers might take away. His folks the dream of every general manager in this league is defined a six round player who becomes a hall of Famer. And then when you actually do after sign him, you still make them a top fifteen top twenty paid wide receiver all the Steelers diddle. Antonio Brown is get get get and they didn't give much. I get why he's frustrated. I get why and Tokyo Brown was frustrated. They've been the best wide receiver in the league. Art, you believe for three years, and you're not getting paid like it. And they got him on the cheap coming out of college. And it just got two picks for him. The Steelers have a history of working that was third and fifth round picks in the players. I put it up on the board for f s one viewers since he came into the league. Found seven rate guys after the third round third round or later that comply. That's not the Steelers issue. And I'm not I'm happy for an Tonio Brown. And I think he'll be a nice player for the raiders. But this deal only works for the raiders if he is just absolutely happy and healthy and hit a home run for three straight years. There's no value in the NFL paying a wide receiver sixteen seventeen million. It's like a Bentley. There is no value. They may be worth it after three years owning it. But you're not getting a deal on the Bentley. The Steelers got a complete deal on Antonio Brown break in the league. They still got a good deal with his first big contract. And they let him go and they get to more picks. I'm on that side. Let me shift to this. What are the great things about sports is that it gives us the impossible, and the improbable things that would would seem ludicrous become reality. If I would have told you a month before it happened. Michael Jordan's the best basketball player in the world. He's gonna quit at go. Play. Minor league baseball. Hot take click bay. You're just trying to get big. What happened if I was going to tell you? So listen Tiger Woods is thirty two in his prime in like a week. He's never gonna win. Another major can have like thirty affairs hot tag. That is exactly what happened sports gives us the impossible. Hey, George Foreman. He's fat. Now, he's gonna come back into boxing, and because heavyweight champion of the world. Oh that happened. That's why we love sports. That's why we love it. So there's this guard. He's a skinny kid. His dad was a decent NBA player. He plays at Davidson. He's gonna come into the NBA, and he's going to revolutionize the sport. That happens Steph curry, that's why love sports, so Jeff Van Gundy Gundy's on TV this weekend. And he says something and I love his courage to say something, which I agree with him. But it's going to get pushback and people are going to rip him in the gonna roll their eyes. But MJ played minor league baseball the little kid from Davidson, revolutionized basketball, George Foreman came out of retirement to become heavyweight champ and Tiger Woods at thirty two unraveled and never won another major. So here's what Jeff Van Gundy said during a Laker broadcast that they have to rebuild this roster. Right. And to me, it could be a trade four and Anthony Davis or I think they need to export trading. The Braun for getting as much as they can what are you doing? No seriously. What are you doing? No. You got to get on the right time on I'm going to say if I could trade him for the clippers into Cavs space, which would give me a better chance to get Durant or Kawhi Leonard would I not do that. The bronze aims not getting trading. Okay. You got to put everything on the though you can Mike. Why? Are we even detaining this man why I don't understand how you would? Why would you take anything off the table you'd have to get a home run deal? But if you go into a a contender, and you can get a home run, you do whatever you have to do to get better. You need a day off. Gay, by the way, what the CEO say when the company is struggling, and they invite all the vice president in the room men women old young. Here's what CEO say. Everything's on the table. Give me ideas. Folks. I don't know if you noticed this weekend. But Brandon Ingram talented, not great, but good young player has a medical condition. That was discovered. He is no longer a trade piece. I talked to somebody inside the LeBron circle. And they realize he is now a Laker is not a trade asset. He's got a serious medical condition. Lonzo ball, by the way, it was announced this weekend is out for the rest of the year. Meaning he is now missed as many games as he's played in his first two years in the NBA. They cannot trade for Anthony Davis. It's over. They don't have the assets the number one asset they have is LeBron the number two asset. They have is. Kyle Kuzma shot thirty one percent from threes there. Number three asset is. Cross your fingers maybe a lottery draft pick. You've got to consider everything when the news came down this weekend about Brandon Ingram's, medical condition and Lonzo ball sitting out the rest of the year. They do not have the assets to land Anthony Davis. It's now about crossing fingers hoping. Kyri Irving befriends LeBron again, not going to happen hoping Kevin Durant leaves and decides to go to the lousy Lakers from the great warriors not going to happen coli, Leonard. Now put an end to that story this weekend. Again, another source saying he's not going to be a Laker Klay Thompson. Oh, please pipe dream. Folks wants to Brandon Ingram news game down once lonzo's out for the year. Polls are no longer assets people are not clamoring for a C minus Lonzo ball with a daddy issue who can stay healthy, and many people suspect is more bust than brilliant. And Brandon Ingram. Very good kid has a serious medical condition. Not trading for that you've got to consider everything and LeBron is by far and away. The one piece that could land you multiple draft picks and multiple players held. There could be a team out there that would just want him for the the merchandising for the brand. But Jeff Van Gundy tip of the cap for having the guts to say something that will get pushed back on. But Steph curry George Foreman. Tiger Woods never winning again miracle on ice. That's why we love sports. Crazy stuff. Not only happens. It happens. Frequently be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, nine AM Pacific on Fox Sports radio f s one and the iheartradio app. Okay. This is being reported by Adam Schefter, the former patriot left tackle Trent Brown is going to sign a four year sixty six million dollar deal with the Oakland Raiders highest paid offensive lineman in NFL history. First of all this is very dangerous by the raiders because the patriots offense at line coaches plied the best position coach in the NFL Dante's Karnak yet everybody that leaves the patriots offensive line. They come in average. They become great they leave and they go back to being average Nate sold or New York Giants. We thought he was great for years and years left. Tackle went to the giants won very good. The best offensive lineman. They have right now is shack. Mason in New England second best was David Andrews. And to prove my point he was undrafted. And he's become a very good player. Trent Brown was Niner. They bailed on him. They bailed on him. There was questioned whether New England could get him to protect Brady but Brady gets rid of the ball so quickly. You don't need a world class left tackle. So the patriots. Let him walk the Niners. Let him walk. Good luck. You don't think how Shanahan smart let him walk? Don't think. Ballot. Check smart. Let him walk. I mean, this is an here's the other thing. I understand the raiders wanting to upgrade at left tackle. Because once you bring Antonio Brown into the fold. He's a deep threat, and Derek cars going to need somebody to protect him because he's going to be going for five and seven step drops. The patriots Trent Brown never hurt them because they get rid of the ball so quickly. Don't have a deep threat Brady never gets hit. But if you bring Antonio Brown into the fold you're going to be sitting back in the pocket waiting him for waiting for him to break free. So you need a left tackle last year. The raiders in the first round wet and drafted a tackle from UCLA. They overdrafted and they're going to move him over to right tackle because he can't play left tackle. So they didn't evaluate tax. Very good last year. And now they're spending a fortune on Trent Brown who Kyle Shanahan and Bill Belichick have said. No, thanks. Then I I dunno. I this this. I gotta be honest with you it sore so Khalil Mack. Let him go Amari Cooper, very reasonably paid young wide receiver. Let him go. Now, you just paid sixty six million dollars thirty-seven of it guaranteed for Trent Brown who. I don't think anybody in the league. Thanks is a top ten left tackle. I'm not saying, he's a disaster. But that's gonna make him the highest paid offense lineman in league history. Lord. Lord. That is something. Here's something. Interesting. Studies show that security systems deter burglars. It's a fact, but they're still a burglary every eight seconds in America how well think about it too burglars. Give up because an individual house has a security system. Of course, not the just find another house that isn't protected, and that's why securing your home is truly a necessity. So let me recommend a brilliant security system built by our friends at SimpliSafe, they believe fear has no place in a place like home they made their system, really smart centers. 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I'm not going to pay for stars outside of my quarterback accumulate draft picks almost a New England feel to it. And now in the last forty eight hours Antonio Brown Trent Brown is it feels like they've making it up as they go. I kind of looks like because you look at it and go, well, do they really have this plan in place when they got rid of Khalil Mack? No, absolutely not. But also in twenty Brown fell into their laps. Right. Antonio Brown dealer. They look at it and go, you know, the Steelers their ego got in the way here because this was not enough for Tonio Brown. A three and a five was not enough for Antonio Brown. So they all sudden get Tonio Brown. Then they go in the get a left tackle who to make him the highest paid left tackle in the NFL. When we saw what happened last year need soldier left. When he didn't have Tom Brady make him. Look a lot better. You have to say, okay. Well, they're kind of using money over there. And then you talked about already I think with Levy I'm bell there in the Le vian bell market here. They have all these number one picks. They could use to dangle to get other high priced free agents as well or go trade for somebody. But I agree with you. I think Mike MAC will have a plan. I don't think John never had a plant. No. Yeah. This doesn't feel like a plan. Feels like hey this film. Fantastic. It's happy Hannukah for the raiders. Yeah. It it's interesting. You know, let me Jon Gruden is an interesting guy if I was a cynic, and I just said, listen, if you're a cynic, okay, I'm a cynic lame duck stadium. They've got us sell tickets in Vegas that now has a wildly popular hockey team. They gotta step on them. This is not a high revenue team. Could I make the argument that Antonio Brown is as much about selling tickets as he is about football. I mean, he by the way, Khalil max great. I'm not sure he sells a bunch of tickets. Antonio Brown sells tickets. I think they do have to look at it at businesswise, and they have in the past when they got more, Sean Lynch, they got him. Because like we still need to sell tickets while we're still it Oakland. Ryan though, we're lame duck team. Right. Same thing. Yeah. But no in Tonio Brown. Here's the bottom line. Talent wise. He's one of the top three in the NFL. Oh, yeah. He's incredibly talented. I I will say this people forget this when Antonio Brown did his Instagram live or whatever was from their locker room the team find him. But at that time, a we set it on FOX hole Sunday that the Steelers said, hey, this is making his rope. You're a lot shorter. Like, we're we're not going to handle we're not gonna put up for a lot more. And he knows that. But at the time, I think he looked like I don't wanna leave the Steelers place in my home Ottawa. So they had a little bit more swagger if you will with that eventually became okay? Then get rid of me. I'm good. What this does it does a couple of things one all the other receivers right now. They're going all yes. Thank you. Thank you for the money, but it's also can mess things up as far as look. Cowboys TRAI one for more Cooper, these guys trade to three and a five for for an Tonio Brown. So teams I think that we're going to try and hope to get a much bigger bounty. This could bring that down and almost temper with teams are not going to go and try and get used to be Jay, it was kind of foolish man's territory to spend a lot of money in free agency, and trades. Eagles. Did it on a Super Bowl? We talked about that last year. All sudden, it's can Rams did it. Yeah. We're gonna it's gonna be copycat. Absolutely. And it does feel like in the last two to three years. It sat it feels a little like the NBA free agency where it's like, hey, it's working. I mean, this is say what you want. I'm actually shocked lay in bell hasn't signed somewhere. I think well a much shocked. You haven't gone new where you're not because they for them Levy mbelle. They're going to have to get the best financial deal possible to show everybody it made sense for us to sit out. They've gotta get that. Even if the way they structure it on the surface. It has to look like we made up that money from last. So lady and people are not going to take a discount deal. Oh my God. If if they do the della terrible God because twelve billion for malpractice. Yeah. Okay. Do you have do you have a sense? I just read a story this morning. There's people inside the jets building. They just. What are you? What are you making a lot of teams are look there's a couple of things number one. No one see Levy, I'm Bill. So they do get a look at them. All they gotta make sure okay. This guy's just hasn't been down there, south beach and hanging out doing whatever. Talent wise he's different weapon. He's a difference maker in Asli absolute difference maker in the NFL. So I do think that teams are going to be in the they're going to want him, but their fear is man, the really gonna want this huge deal that shows everybody this is why we sat out, and it's going to be a ridiculous deal. But you know, it only takes one it all takes just takes one to give that kind of that kind of money. Okay. We got don't go anywhere. Jay. We got a Keiler Murray situation. All right raiders made a huge deal today. Trent Brown patriot left. Tackle is now the highest paid offensive lineman in NFL history. The raiders bring him over. I thought he was the third best offense at Lyman for the patriots this year shack. Mason was terrific David Andrews undrafted was became a great centre for them Dante's Karnak via beware of of acquiring patriot offense lineman. They tend to erode the minute they leave Foxborough because they have the best offense at line coach perhaps in. NFL history as quarterback in NFL history who gets rid of the ball real fast. Yep. So Jay Glazer joining us couple of things here. So I said this last week when you break a story, or when you have a strong opinion. I always believe in. I can't say that for everybody in this in this business NBA or NFL or baseball reporters. But you have said the giants have said, you know, Odell Beckham not on the trade bloc, and you will not back down. You have said exactly what was estimate a bold prediction for the in my bowl prediction, and do that John Coltrane Odell Beckham this all season, then you will back down from it. Well, I my prediction. And then Dave Gettleman, obviously has come out. And he said I didn't sign him to trade him. That's correct. He didn't sign him to trade him. But things change right now, we're they are with auto Beckham. They're not going to go. And that's why I said like the Tonio Brown could true things up there because they're not going to get rid of them for three and a five absolute nut and the talks they have had with other teams in. Yes, teams have apps. Fleet called and talked to the giants, and they'll take the call and they've taken the calls and they've had conversations it's not been. No, he's not on the block click. It's not been that at all. Because so just for everybody out there saying that, oh, they're not going to do through certainly listening. But they're asking price right now is is ridiculous for him. And I think they'll look at the ABC and go, well, that's a ridiculous price as well. You got to see if things kind of calm down on on both what they're asking prices. And what the price was so low I think they've got to find something else there. But if sometimes it's just it's just good for. It's just change of scenery is good for both sides. It's very possible. And I talked to Dell Beckham about a month ago, a very engaging. Good listeners, you're in Utah. You guys like skiing? I was skiing caller, I got a text at Odell Beckham wants to talk to you about something. You'd said we had a great conversation. And you know, he told me his frustrations. And I. After I hung the phone up or a what do you call that? When you can see him. It's the it's time FaceTime. Sorry. So this is your job so space time, and after we hung out. He's time. My take away was he could really do with a new team. It wasn't anti giants. Anti Odell was. Emotionally. He could really use a new start. Are. They all saw. That's what it is. There's no there's no there's no hate, right? Sometimes it's just time for change of scenery. Remember now last year they're talking about moving on last year from them, right? When he wanted to deal, and there was a lot of John Mara was saying, Pat Shurmur was the one who went in there and said, no, no, let's I want him lets salvage. Let's save them. I want them here. And there are a lot of teams. The Rams are interested. The patriots origin their teams they were talking to and they're looking at. But Pat Shurmur was like just let me have them. I know I could do this. And it's just by the way dinner is what happened at the end of last year. Jay he didn't play in play. And would happen. Giants played. Well, very well. I just think it's a it's an energy thing that look he's he's a. Incredible talents. Oh god. Oh my God. Athletically, like we've had a lot of players come in and out on breakable over the years. Our Jim there's nothing like this cat ever. I've never seen anything. It's it's unreal. What he does. As a dude. Phenomenal great person. Incredible. There's nothing wrong with him. He's great just sometimes the energy changes. And it's time for a change. I think that's we're all size are by the way. Good people. Get divorced. It's okay. It happens. K Cuyler Murray. Arizona, I never thought initially. This would happen. Steve com had picked a quarterback last year, generally general managers don't want to acknowledge that pick. I'm going to move him. The more I read the more. I feel I get the cliff Kingsbury thing. Jay, if Kingsbury doesn't work everybody not buildings getting fired. Do you think it's going to happen here? Here's the thing. I know people want answers right now. But the honest truth is a he has produced this week. Let's see what happens over be everything really comes down to win you sit and you have these personal meetings kids, right? They're going to go down now and the GM and head coach the owner they'll go and they'll spend entire day sometimes night with these players right bears. Did a couple years ago with me? Mitch trubisky. Nobody knew they fell in love with Mitch Trubisky. That's it. Oh my God. That's our guy. There are other times you sit with the quarterback. There were teams were they love to show Khazar sat down how the meeting with that. We're off it. Okay. Patrick Mahomes a couple of years ago. Remember this time few years ago? Nobody had Patrick Mahomes in the top fifteen. That's right there. That's right. But he went in one one team told me that they sat with patrimony. It was a very established quarterback who you'd never think they move on from in. They're ready to take Mahomes, and that's one of the reasons chiefs moves up, but he said he came into our meeting, and what happens is you'll give these players plays. Right. Hey, go go memorize some of our plays. And you're gonna come back, and we'll see what you retention is. They said Patrick Mahomes came back literally said to them you want to regurgitate it right handed left handed. What are you seri- desert-like? He is. Oh my God. So now collar Murray goes in there it absolutely wow them then. Yes, you take that look John Schneider. Seattle seahawks. He's the blueprint years ago. He goes out and trades for Matt Flynn from the from the Green Bay Packers. But then there's Russell Wilson sitting there is like I don't care. This is the guy I'm going to get Russell Wilson. I'm drafting them. We're moving on. If you find that guy, you think is going to be it you go get him. Even if you drafted another quarterback the year before, but it's really going to go down can't trust this enough everybody who says they know what they're going to do. It's going to go to that meeting because he could go in there and go meet with with Arizona, and they come go nuts. Just we don't feel. It's getting that feeling that energy. It does feel like patriots twelve picks. They could if Rosen is higher graded than anybody in this class. Tom's forty one. I'm not saying I don't know where they have him. What? Okay. And that's the thing. There's a landing spot for John. I don't know because you have to look at it. Look the things with Josh one. Where do they have him graded last year, but to he did play this year? And it was there were awful this year. Right. So I don't know where they can look at and go on a bad team. He did certain things. Well, or they can looking man bullets were flying. He just he wasn't right. We were hoping I don't know the answer to that. Because every team's going to have a different view of Josh Rosen. Jay Glazer joining us. Finally, listen, you can blame Antonio Brown, and you can blame levian bell. But big Benza circus lady was a mess. AB didn't end. Well, Todd Haley coach was disruptive that to me is on the culture. I'm not going to start blaming players. Big Ben's got his issues. A B's got his Libyans got his Todd. Haley has his, you know, Terry Bradshaw. Talk heat a year ago for San Tomlin. Sometimes it's more cheerleader than coach. I would argue Pittsburgh's out a cultural issue here. Again. I think certain things they just kind of you know there. The cycle. You know runs. Its course this one kind of looks like it's run its course little bit. Mike Tomlin is a phenomenal coach phenomenal to have those personalities. And you said it a Benz getting a free passer, then has like nineteen personality have passing in the brass. Oh, my God every day every week is like, oh, Ben Ted's gonna fall off pens plane with without three arms. See, you know, there's a lot of personalities that go and they draft these people with huge personalities, and they have for for an awful long time got them to work and fit. Well, and I think right now, it's just looks like the dam is starting to just burst open. And you know, it's. That's what happens, you know. They're going to get guys we want these kind of renegade players who want these guys with that personality and yet Mike Tomlin can rain those guys in. But also some there has just been there's so much drama there. It's gonna be interesting though, because see I ten seconds laughing at saving last year. And we thought it was done it over and also look with it. Yeah. Pete got a couple of guys out of the room recalibrated bit success. Jay Glazer, everybody. Thank you guys. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern, not AM Pacific every Monday at this time. We just don't feel that people admit in our business. They're wrong and everybody's wrong all the time. And so we call it where calling was right where calling was wrong. My missteps in the last week. Here we go where Colin was right. Danny amendola after a one touchdown season with the dolphins has been released by the dolphins. When New England bales on an aging player always early never late. They're almost always right, by the way, amendola was on the show. He's a good guy. He was perfect in their system. But he just signed on with Detroit. This was one of the moves where people said, oh boy, Danny amendola, and he had a couple of really nice moments in New England. I would not suggest he didn't one touchdown. Dolphins hadn't paid a lot for year. And he's gone patriots. Right again where Colin was raw. I said last couple years that the Western Conference in the NBA was a little overstated. It's better than the east. But let's not make it into the SEC in football where it's just so dominant, but Portland's better Oklahoma City appears better and Denver got way. Better. San Antonio is shockingly good and the Lakers are now an eleventh seed potentially thirteenth see to fourteenth seat by the end of the season last ten games. They're to an eight and LeBron with a bunch of young guys never even threatened to make it interesting after the all star break, the west is simply better than I gave it credit for most of this year where Colin was right? Everybody bailed on the Celtics all my God, man overboard, and I said time out. They'll get it together. Best coach in the east. Best roster in the east most playoff experience in the east most playoff success not connected to LeBron last several years in the east. They're going to be fine. We'll what are you know? They're playing great basketball. They've won four or five. The crushed the warriors at oracle and for the record Gordon Hayward playing very well last three games averaging almost twenty and shooting seventy percent. Kyri Irving seems to be better balanced since they had that little flight west. And he got to sit down with the coaches don't always buy into every little drama in the regular season for stars. And good teams the regular season can be a drain. Not only physically but emotionally. And the Celtics are fine. Where Colin was raw. I thought Rashawn Rondo was actually one of the pickups the Lakers made that would really work high Q tough. He'd be exactly what the doctor ordered. He's never worked with the Lakers. Optically? It's been a disaster. He's disengaged with his teammates and his coaching staff. He got into that fight with Chris Paul. He's rarely healthy. He's not in the least bit elevated. Lonzo ball. There's generally a reason why certain guys in the NBA bounced from team to team team. And Rondo there's a reason by the way, he struggled to get along with Doc Rivers, one of the nicest guys in pro sports. He struggled to get along with Rick Carlisle. They bailed on him and Rick Carlisle's, pretty easy guy to get along with highly respected the Rondo deals. I thought it made sense. It's never worked where Colin was. Right. Couple years ago. I got in trouble at the old place because I called out James Dolan of the New York Knicks. I called him a Meatball. I said he was the most insecure owner in the NBA the most incompetent, and I felt bad for knick fans. Well, he took it to another level of insecurity this weekend. Having this confrontation with a fan. Jay. Want to come to any more games? That's rude. I know it's not an opinion. And you know, what I watched it on TV? Really cause a fan. Didn't throw anything didn't make any threats a fan yelled sell the team, and you're gonna now kick him out of the arena. I mean, Adam silver is to appoint is he not sitting in his office thinking, I got to find a buyer for the New York. Knicks Dolan is just remarkably insecure for a billionaire. It's just it's it's hard to get your arms around. How insecure is where Colin was raw? I laughed at my staff last week when they theorized a conspiracy theory. They said LeBron went to watch sign Williamson, Saul how physically dominant was and. Doc to himself. Hey magic. It's time to tank while. The Lakers are two and nine since then Lonzo ball suddenly can't play for the rest of the year. Lebron's minutes have been reduced. He won't back to backs and oh, by the way, Kyle coups menaul. The slight sprain. May also miss significant time clearly the Lakers are in tanking mode. That's not to say Lonzo ball was an injured but rest of the season Kyle Kuzina. Lebron's never once limited time off the floor. And Brandon Ingram has a serious medical condition. I will not include him, but it is. It is more than interesting that since LeBron visited Zion. They're not even competitive now. I mean, this is like a bad. Subtle tank job. I mean, they're all in on it. Maybe I was wrong where Colin was right? I had my doubts about Russell Westbrook being restrained. Newin improve Russell Westbrook. Limiting shots. Well, what do you know? Oklahoma City is in their last ten three and seven since he started shooting again shooting twenty four shots game. He is incapable of being a great teammate long-term. He for all. I kept saying I'll believe it. When I see it in the playoffs. He's not capable of being a sixteen point shot a game guy. He is now shooting in the last ten games twenty five shots a game shooting nine and a half. Threes a game. His plus minus over the ten game stretches, minus forty seven in. Okay. See was in solid position. A third is now tied for fourth in the end people are what they are. As Chris Broussard says your game is your game. And Paul George is not benefiting from this where Colin was raw because I had Paul George as the MVP two weeks ago. His last three games he's shooting. Thirty one percent as Westbrook shooting. More his stock is plummeting. He's now a distant third in the MVP race. He's missing open looks he's frustrated and suddenly he is struggling and I said two weeks ago and last week. He's the best two way player in the league. Co is great. But is often not available and Jaanus is great, but doesn't control games late because he doesn't shoot three's Paul, George as Westbrook. The old Westbrook. Has emerged Paul George is no longer an MVP leading candidate where Colin was right. The new football league the A F. I've said spring football will work and watch it get elevated. Well, what do you know TNT announced they're gonna televise two extra games? They've watched the product they want to put it on. By the way, the NFL is considering a rule being used by the af an onside kick rule and people are paying attention to this Lee. League sports networks are absolutely. When when when Vince McMahon did his football years ago? You didn't have thirty two sports network's all clamoring for live sports programming, but live sports programming is now the only thing that gets a rating on television it's net flicks or live sports. And so this league spring football league for eight to ten weeks. It's got everybody's attention. The NFL is going to borrow one of its kickoff. Rules and TNT is now going to add games this year where Colin was wrong when those Cuyler Murray number one rumors came out I thought east tiny. They just drafted a quarterback. I think they lie Josh Rosen. But last week, it appears that it's more than a fifty fifty proposition that Cuyler Murray the little guy five nine five ten. This is kind the new standard in the NFL. If a guy's that athletic. You're not gonna worry about his height. You going to go with it big twelve quarterbacks. People used a wince now between Mahomes and Baker Mayfield there the hot quarterbacks because more of the big twelve offense come into the NFL. I never thought Arizona would bail on Rosen mostly because they just picked him in the top ten and they had whiffed on many of their first round picks. And they moved off Rosen. I thought it was suggesting they whiffed on that one too. But they got cliff Kingsbury. He's got a worker. Everybody's getting flushed out and fired narrow Zona, and it looks like this is more now than a fifty fifty proposition.

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